pDwLIFbkSiE-00000-00000012-00000142 what's up you threw away the aftermath pDwLIFbkSiE-00001-00000143-00000313 man we back here at the gym it's leg day pDwLIFbkSiE-00002-00000314-00000542 alright but to get it in on this weekend pDwLIFbkSiE-00003-00000543-00000824 it's Saturday we got III coming up we pDwLIFbkSiE-00004-00000825-00001007 got III coming up which is our favorite pDwLIFbkSiE-00005-00001008-00001181 event of the year so make sure you guys pDwLIFbkSiE-00006-00001182-00001382 hit that notification button all right pDwLIFbkSiE-00007-00001383-00001618 we got gaming we got Fitness and pDwLIFbkSiE-00008-00001619-00001847 whatever else I can make out of the e3 pDwLIFbkSiE-00009-00001848-00002198 videos so we'll be doing that come what pDwLIFbkSiE-00010-00002199-00002399 Tuesday starts Tuesday next week and pDwLIFbkSiE-00011-00002400-00002597 there's actually the EEA thing if you pDwLIFbkSiE-00012-00002598-00002831 want to go be a play yeah today and pDwLIFbkSiE-00013-00002832-00002996 tomorrow I think and then we might go to pDwLIFbkSiE-00014-00002997-00003142 like the smorgasbord tomorrow pDwLIFbkSiE-00015-00003143-00003476 but anyways check this out man I have pDwLIFbkSiE-00016-00003477-00003629 some sick news for you guys pDwLIFbkSiE-00017-00003629-00003833 now you know how much of a headphone pDwLIFbkSiE-00018-00003834-00004006 person I am how much I lose headphones pDwLIFbkSiE-00019-00004007-00004334 how much I buy headphones and right now pDwLIFbkSiE-00020-00004335-00004661 I have I've come across these headphones pDwLIFbkSiE-00021-00004662-00004879 that are on my head right now that have pDwLIFbkSiE-00022-00004880-00005161 changed the weightlifting tunnel-vision pDwLIFbkSiE-00023-00005162-00005393 game for me so what these headphones pDwLIFbkSiE-00024-00005394-00005693 actually do is they take like the shape pDwLIFbkSiE-00025-00005694-00005872 of your head to take to your ears and pDwLIFbkSiE-00026-00005873-00006274 they form at the the sound of the music pDwLIFbkSiE-00027-00006275-00006706 to to use we sit person personalize it pDwLIFbkSiE-00028-00006708-00006905 personalizes the sound specifically to pDwLIFbkSiE-00029-00006906-00007273 you and these have put me in like so pDwLIFbkSiE-00030-00007275-00007541 much more of a like a deep deeper pDwLIFbkSiE-00031-00007542-00007648 connection because when it comes to pDwLIFbkSiE-00032-00007650-00007792 working out bro music is everything if I pDwLIFbkSiE-00033-00007793-00007981 don't have music and I'm like I don't pDwLIFbkSiE-00034-00007983-00008159 feel like zoned out I mean I need to be pDwLIFbkSiE-00035-00008159-00008273 zoned out to the point to where I feel pDwLIFbkSiE-00036-00008274-00008464 like nobody is in here and it's just pDwLIFbkSiE-00037-00008465-00008705 like me and the way to know I'm saying I pDwLIFbkSiE-00038-00008706-00008873 mean as much as I like the spotlight I pDwLIFbkSiE-00039-00008874-00009106 like to be disowned in and focused and pDwLIFbkSiE-00040-00009107-00009796 these right here right here I have been pDwLIFbkSiE-00041-00009797-00010046 a [__] great alright it's been about pDwLIFbkSiE-00042-00010047-00010448 what about a week almost almost a week pDwLIFbkSiE-00043-00010449-00010724 since I've used these and I love them so pDwLIFbkSiE-00044-00010725-00010913 far you know I'm saying at first I pDwLIFbkSiE-00045-00010914-00011053 thought I had some issues with him but pDwLIFbkSiE-00046-00011054-00011188 that was actually me because I didn't pDwLIFbkSiE-00047-00011189-00011374 read the whole manual I was being stupid pDwLIFbkSiE-00048-00011375-00011524 cuz I was like y'all thought this was he pDwLIFbkSiE-00049-00011525-00011660 personalized and then you got a good pDwLIFbkSiE-00050-00011661-00011912 download the app and do all the person a pDwLIFbkSiE-00051-00011913-00012346 lot of stuff but super sx5 right here pDwLIFbkSiE-00052-00012347-00012667 headphones by creative and there'll be a pDwLIFbkSiE-00053-00012668-00012949 link in the description for anyone who pDwLIFbkSiE-00054-00012950-00013286 wants to get these at a discount and yo pDwLIFbkSiE-00055-00013287-00013366 definitely pDwLIFbkSiE-00056-00013368-00013538 check these out I'll be giving it a pDwLIFbkSiE-00057-00013538-00013909 little physical live test for you guys pDwLIFbkSiE-00058-00013910-00014150 as well and as you see I showed you guys pDwLIFbkSiE-00059-00014151-00014431 the arm like to setup how it scans you pDwLIFbkSiE-00060-00014432-00014627 here your face for your other here and pDwLIFbkSiE-00061-00014628-00014842 pretty much personalize it for you so pDwLIFbkSiE-00062-00014843-00015044 you can control the base the treble pDwLIFbkSiE-00063-00015044-00015292 controls all volumes and can pop the hip pDwLIFbkSiE-00064-00015293-00015517 hop hip hop the rocks and change all pDwLIFbkSiE-00065-00015518-00015955 that let's get it changing that song pDwLIFbkSiE-00066-00015956-00016541 cool just like that another thing to add pDwLIFbkSiE-00067-00016542-00016817 I forgot to add so you can volume so you pDwLIFbkSiE-00068-00016818-00017075 just swipe up or down for volumes you pDwLIFbkSiE-00069-00017076-00017327 change the song so I can left to right pDwLIFbkSiE-00070-00017328-00017659 so very convenient here's the super x5 pDwLIFbkSiE-00071-00017660-00017939 button that you press right there you pDwLIFbkSiE-00072-00017940-00018097 can also change the colors of the lights pDwLIFbkSiE-00073-00018098-00018419 so my changes to yellow since mom my pDwLIFbkSiE-00074-00018420-00018963 mood is pretty pretty bright today pDwLIFbkSiE-00075-00018964-00021509 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00076-00021510-00022027 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00077-00022028-00022739 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00078-00022740-00023627 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00079-00023628-00023894 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00080-00023895-00024075 [Applause] pDwLIFbkSiE-00081-00024076-00024707 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00082-00024708-00025843 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00083-00025844-00027377 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00085-00031599-00032045 pick one off to actually give you all pDwLIFbkSiE-00086-00032047-00032383 what I actually do stop just do y'all up pDwLIFbkSiE-00087-00032385-00032510 super-heavyweight pDwLIFbkSiE-00088-00032511-00033231 so last time I squat it was 6:05 6:05 so pDwLIFbkSiE-00089-00033232-00035757 that means I would do set the two 485 pDwLIFbkSiE-00090-00035758-00036068 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00091-00036069-00036293 Mac students we don't front squats today pDwLIFbkSiE-00092-00036294-00036990 but I'm not too comfortable doing front pDwLIFbkSiE-00093-00036991-00037107 squats right now what my knees still pDwLIFbkSiE-00094-00037108-00037419 kind of bothering me so I don't want pDwLIFbkSiE-00095-00037420-00037637 really anything quad dominant in that pDwLIFbkSiE-00096-00037638-00037991 and that working in this workout today pDwLIFbkSiE-00097-00037992-00038244 so you're kind of doing a little bit pDwLIFbkSiE-00098-00038245-00038544 extra fire glue glue works I did glue pDwLIFbkSiE-00099-00038545-00038636 works two days ago pDwLIFbkSiE-00100-00038637-00038955 backside and once everything recovers pDwLIFbkSiE-00101-00038956-00039078 once I feel like I can start dunking and pDwLIFbkSiE-00102-00039079-00039387 stuff and jumping without you got hurt pDwLIFbkSiE-00103-00039388-00039618 and I need again then I'll also do our pDwLIFbkSiE-00104-00039619-00039975 first clock cuz let's be back supposed pDwLIFbkSiE-00105-00039976-00040158 to get glutes hamstring day and then a pDwLIFbkSiE-00106-00040159-00040647 quad today quads calves dominate day so pDwLIFbkSiE-00107-00040648-00040863 once I get back to I'm hoping that pDwLIFbkSiE-00108-00040864-00040968 within the next two weeks I'll get back pDwLIFbkSiE-00109-00040969-00041154 to regular schedule and that's kind of pDwLIFbkSiE-00110-00041155-00041343 how I do things that's my that's my pDwLIFbkSiE-00111-00041344-00041874 split push pool lower body conditioning pDwLIFbkSiE-00112-00041875-00042123 abs push-pull little by the conditioning pDwLIFbkSiE-00113-00042124-00042396 abs and I know somebody asks on one of pDwLIFbkSiE-00114-00042397-00042723 my videos before so definitely try that pDwLIFbkSiE-00115-00042724-00043197 out I'm gonna get a recipe what I do I pDwLIFbkSiE-00116-00043198-00043404 think we got some unilateral work pDwLIFbkSiE-00117-00043405-00043614 actually we have some chip we have some pDwLIFbkSiE-00118-00043615-00043704 hip work to do pDwLIFbkSiE-00119-00043705-00043991 inner and outer adduction abduction pDwLIFbkSiE-00120-00043992-00044184 those are gonna take it up right now pDwLIFbkSiE-00121-00044185-00044571 we're going to possibly do some smith pDwLIFbkSiE-00122-00044572-00044714 machine pulses I've been pDwLIFbkSiE-00123-00044715-00044948 I've been using my glutes a lot more pDwLIFbkSiE-00124-00044949-00045140 understanding the distance between the pDwLIFbkSiE-00125-00045141-00045269 hamstring contraction in the glute pDwLIFbkSiE-00126-00045270-00045497 contraction so I've been using the Smith pDwLIFbkSiE-00127-00045498-00045602 machine and help me with that pDwLIFbkSiE-00128-00045603-00045791 especially for my squat a little bit pDwLIFbkSiE-00129-00045792-00046085 wider what I do do on the Smith machine pDwLIFbkSiE-00130-00046086-00046226 sometimes which I might do today is pDwLIFbkSiE-00131-00046227-00046613 [__] squats so I tested them out a pDwLIFbkSiE-00132-00046614-00046799 couple days ago it didn't bother me on pDwLIFbkSiE-00133-00046800-00047015 my knees so we might do that and what I pDwLIFbkSiE-00134-00047016-00047291 do I do those high reps like 20 reps 20 pDwLIFbkSiE-00135-00047292-00047507 reps [__] squats kind of like actually pDwLIFbkSiE-00136-00047508-00047663 like like ballet like valeted [__] pDwLIFbkSiE-00137-00047664-00047894 squats with my feet are super turned out pDwLIFbkSiE-00138-00047895-00048077 and this is my range of motion right pDwLIFbkSiE-00139-00048078-00048467 here boom boom boom work that teardrop pDwLIFbkSiE-00140-00048468-00048677 on the inside of the quads which I've pDwLIFbkSiE-00141-00048678-00048914 lost a lot of size in over the years pDwLIFbkSiE-00142-00048915-00049193 just because I haven't focus on muscles pDwLIFbkSiE-00143-00049194-00049406 specifically like that anymore I just pDwLIFbkSiE-00144-00049407-00049628 focus on the muscle wholly instead of pDwLIFbkSiE-00145-00049629-00049766 like the little minor things you have to pDwLIFbkSiE-00146-00049767-00050015 work on and I kind of want to build that pDwLIFbkSiE-00147-00050016-00050288 a little bit more so we'll get that done pDwLIFbkSiE-00148-00050289-00050597 today and then what I've been doing pDwLIFbkSiE-00149-00050598-00050972 every other day is get a rope robbed or pDwLIFbkSiE-00150-00050973-00051278 a raga meter or ergo meter whatever the pDwLIFbkSiE-00151-00051279-00051655 road machine five minutes a thousand pDwLIFbkSiE-00152-00051657-00051827 meters that's what I've been working on pDwLIFbkSiE-00153-00051828-00052049 so I mean I get it down before five pDwLIFbkSiE-00154-00052050-00052637 minutes but yeah so now I use this area pDwLIFbkSiE-00155-00052638-00053195 to warm up a little bit more we're gonna pDwLIFbkSiE-00156-00053196-00053874 go left and right I'll go over pDwLIFbkSiE-00157-00053875-00054336 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00158-00054337-00054625 don't have to get on your toes doing pDwLIFbkSiE-00159-00054626-00055701 this open up those hips pDwLIFbkSiE-00160-00055702-00057139 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00161-00057140-00057409 versus pDwLIFbkSiE-00162-00057410-00059679 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00163-00059680-00059901 Hey ladies right now pDwLIFbkSiE-00164-00059902-00060073 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00165-00060074-00060457 old-school hip-hop man hey finally pDwLIFbkSiE-00166-00060458-00060947 something with no soy there's so much pDwLIFbkSiE-00167-00060948-00061150 other bad [__] who xantham gum that's pDwLIFbkSiE-00168-00061151-00061399 the first back thing you want to you pDwLIFbkSiE-00169-00061400-00061974 always see no sorry no dairy no egg pDwLIFbkSiE-00170-00061975-00062506 snickerdoodle you can deal with this or pDwLIFbkSiE-00171-00062507-00063974 you can get pDwLIFbkSiE-00172-00063975-00064944 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00173-00064945-00065321 see pDwLIFbkSiE-00174-00065322-00066782 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00175-00066783-00068274 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00176-00068275-00068596 for tops like this might do some pDwLIFbkSiE-00177-00068597-00069501 athletic stuff box jump let's get it pDwLIFbkSiE-00178-00069502-00070050 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00180-00073217-00074621 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00181-00074622-00074951 it's all opposed to do some hip stuff pDwLIFbkSiE-00182-00074952-00075180 but that area has literally been taken pDwLIFbkSiE-00183-00075181-00075360 up with last hour so we're just gonna pDwLIFbkSiE-00184-00075361-00075591 skip that slide there's some box jumps pDwLIFbkSiE-00185-00075592-00076080 push up to five five reps after I did pDwLIFbkSiE-00186-00076081-00076500 the vertical presses did the squats and pDwLIFbkSiE-00187-00076501-00076812 then do two more things that stuff pDwLIFbkSiE-00188-00076813-00076941 figure it out I'm kind of on the fly pDwLIFbkSiE-00189-00076942-00077132 right now just because those are the pDwLIFbkSiE-00190-00077133-00077351 last two things I'll teaspoon adductors pDwLIFbkSiE-00191-00077352-00077748 and adductors we got [__] squats now pDwLIFbkSiE-00192-00077749-00077973 I'm not gonna do the [__] squats after pDwLIFbkSiE-00193-00077974-00078216 doing the putting the pressure on the pDwLIFbkSiE-00194-00078217-00078600 knees from doing the box jumps so try to pDwLIFbkSiE-00195-00078601-00078856 do some sprints to be honest pDwLIFbkSiE-00196-00078857-00079419 so yeah let's go do some sprints go run pDwLIFbkSiE-00197-00079420-00080697 outside somewhere pDwLIFbkSiE-00199-00084439-00085178 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00200-00085179-00085843 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00201-00085844-00086822 [Music] pDwLIFbkSiE-00202-00086823-00087087 when I was a little boy I wanted to be a pDwLIFbkSiE-00203-00087088-00087309 hero truth is when you get older pDwLIFbkSiE-00204-00087310-00087486 sometimes things don't always turn out pDwLIFbkSiE-00205-00087487-00087672 the way you look they would so you got pDwLIFbkSiE-00206-00087673-00087843 to do what you got to do handle that pDwLIFbkSiE-00207-00087844-00088110 business believe in yourself create your pDwLIFbkSiE-00208-00088111-00088848 own destiny pDwLIFbkSiE-00209-00088849-00090338 [Music] pDVtyYiQxXo-00000-00000021-00000229 good afternoon that's the song come at pDVtyYiQxXo-00001-00000231-00000443 CAF with trade out loud calm pDVtyYiQxXo-00002-00000444-00000580 welcome to the futures market outlook pDVtyYiQxXo-00003-00000581-00000935 for the week of July 30th and we're pDVtyYiQxXo-00004-00000936-00001141 gonna begin with the M&E Dow Industrial pDVtyYiQxXo-00005-00001142-00001427 Average after a read day in the markets pDVtyYiQxXo-00006-00001428-00001834 on Friday where most of these future pDVtyYiQxXo-00007-00001835-00002291 indices have had a big move down SMP has pDVtyYiQxXo-00008-00002292-00002699 dropped more than 25 points Nasdaq 131 pDVtyYiQxXo-00009-00002700-00002945 points to the downside and Russell lost pDVtyYiQxXo-00010-00002946-00003370 39 points emoney Dow was the only index pDVtyYiQxXo-00011-00003371-00003847 down 9999 points on Friday however it is pDVtyYiQxXo-00012-00003848-00004199 the one index that is holding the best pDVtyYiQxXo-00013-00004200-00004490 so right now relative strength is coming pDVtyYiQxXo-00014-00004491-00004772 from the enmity doubt we're gonna take a pDVtyYiQxXo-00015-00004773-00005006 quick look at the daily chart so daily pDVtyYiQxXo-00016-00005007-00005254 chart although it triggered a reversal pDVtyYiQxXo-00017-00005255-00005522 on the daily chart is still trading into pDVtyYiQxXo-00018-00005523-00005872 an area of support all the way to the 25 pDVtyYiQxXo-00019-00005873-00006200 350 a reversal at this point we've pDVtyYiQxXo-00020-00006201-00006553 pretty much had a quick bounce into the pDVtyYiQxXo-00021-00006554-00006778 into the close and actually the bounce pDVtyYiQxXo-00022-00006779-00007163 came after the big drop in most of these pDVtyYiQxXo-00023-00007164-00007466 indices into 1:00 p.m. Eastern 1:00 p.m. pDVtyYiQxXo-00024-00007467-00007769 Eastern has reversed the price and so pDVtyYiQxXo-00025-00007770-00008003 far holding holding actually really weak pDVtyYiQxXo-00026-00008004-00008396 if we look at the if we look at the pDVtyYiQxXo-00027-00008397-00008699 hourly charts obviously we do have some pDVtyYiQxXo-00028-00008700-00008899 relative strength that is coming like I pDVtyYiQxXo-00029-00008900-00009194 mentioned before into the M&E Dow at 25 pDVtyYiQxXo-00030-00009195-00009638 for 50 landing into this prior high here pDVtyYiQxXo-00031-00009639-00009977 that may oppress the price at this point pDVtyYiQxXo-00032-00009978-00010228 and price may get rejected at the 450 pDVtyYiQxXo-00033-00010229-00010412 level so this is something that I'm pDVtyYiQxXo-00034-00010413-00010742 going to watch in the overnight price in pDVtyYiQxXo-00035-00010743-00010939 the overnight price action and also pDVtyYiQxXo-00036-00010940-00011131 coming into tomorrow's and getting ready pDVtyYiQxXo-00037-00011132-00011356 for day trading obviously and swing pDVtyYiQxXo-00038-00011357-00011642 trading next to week and obviously this pDVtyYiQxXo-00039-00011643-00011764 week all right pDVtyYiQxXo-00040-00011765-00012095 so if we get the price rejection at the pDVtyYiQxXo-00041-00012096-00012491 25 450 zone we are going to have pDVtyYiQxXo-00042-00012492-00012713 definitely a battleground and turbulent pDVtyYiQxXo-00043-00012714-00013169 zone all the way to the 25 370 zone and pDVtyYiQxXo-00044-00013169-00013358 if we if the pDVtyYiQxXo-00045-00013359-00013588 is gonna manage to break below this pDVtyYiQxXo-00046-00013590-00013855 range it's gonna have a more accelerated pDVtyYiQxXo-00047-00013856-00014249 drop into the 25 300 now let's move on pDVtyYiQxXo-00048-00014250-00014519 to the daily charts and let's see where pDVtyYiQxXo-00049-00014519-00014678 is the next support level it's going to pDVtyYiQxXo-00050-00014679-00014891 be and the next support level is into pDVtyYiQxXo-00051-00014891-00015238 this prior high that was set on July pDVtyYiQxXo-00052-00015240-00015488 19th and we also have a console window pDVtyYiQxXo-00053-00015488-00015619 on that is coming from the 10 pDVtyYiQxXo-00054-00015620-00015916 exponential moving average at the 25 to pDVtyYiQxXo-00055-00015918-00016340 20 so so the overall price action for pDVtyYiQxXo-00056-00016341-00016646 next week we will actually look at the pDVtyYiQxXo-00057-00016647-00016861 price pattern and if the Martins should pDVtyYiQxXo-00058-00016862-00017177 receive some positive signals and if we pDVtyYiQxXo-00059-00017178-00017591 should move to the upside ym emini down pDVtyYiQxXo-00060-00017592-00017810 Austral average has more odds to pDVtyYiQxXo-00061-00017811-00018017 continue and accelerate to the upside pDVtyYiQxXo-00062-00018018-00018308 than the rest of these the rest of the pDVtyYiQxXo-00063-00018309-00018782 image index index futures so right now pDVtyYiQxXo-00064-00018783-00019025 although we are we tapped into pDVtyYiQxXo-00065-00019026-00019418 resistance at the 585 level if we break pDVtyYiQxXo-00066-00019419-00019655 the 585 level this is gonna be the pDVtyYiQxXo-00067-00019656-00019819 catalyst for the price for an pDVtyYiQxXo-00068-00019820-00020162 acceleration higher back into the 800 pDVtyYiQxXo-00069-00020163-00020474 level so this is contingent on the price pDVtyYiQxXo-00070-00020475-00020869 accelerating into the 570s zone over 570 pDVtyYiQxXo-00071-00020870-00021062 we will be bullish for throughout the pDVtyYiQxXo-00072-00021063-00021371 week and prices price may accelerate pDVtyYiQxXo-00073-00021372-00021628 higher like I mentioned all the way into pDVtyYiQxXo-00074-00021629-00022166 the 25 725 800 now let's move on to the pDVtyYiQxXo-00075-00022167-00022553 mini S&P 500 the M&E SMP 500 index pDVtyYiQxXo-00076-00022554-00022837 futures again finished the week in a pDVtyYiQxXo-00077-00022838-00023090 relatively neutral mode so we didn't pDVtyYiQxXo-00078-00023091-00023305 give back all of the profits for last pDVtyYiQxXo-00079-00023306-00023492 week so we're still stabilizing we're pDVtyYiQxXo-00080-00023493-00023897 still not breaching a prior week's low pDVtyYiQxXo-00081-00023898-00024269 which is 27 89 if we happen to breach pDVtyYiQxXo-00082-00024270-00024709 this area the 2790 zone in this week in pDVtyYiQxXo-00083-00024710-00024931 this trading week that starts less than pDVtyYiQxXo-00084-00024932-00025211 6 hours from now we may see an pDVtyYiQxXo-00085-00025212-00025496 acceleration lower and the next price pDVtyYiQxXo-00086-00025497-00025706 target that I'm gonna be looking for is pDVtyYiQxXo-00087-00025707-00026069 going to be into the 2770 area let's pDVtyYiQxXo-00088-00026070-00026289 move back to the daily chart for more pDVtyYiQxXo-00089-00026290-00026669 for more information on that so like pDVtyYiQxXo-00090-00026670-00026717 I've been pDVtyYiQxXo-00091-00026718-00027017 before 2800 is going to be once again pDVtyYiQxXo-00092-00027018-00027212 the big catalyst and remember that we pDVtyYiQxXo-00093-00027213-00027477 have been balancing out at the 2708 pDVtyYiQxXo-00094-00027478-00027917 through 27 27 10 but if we break below pDVtyYiQxXo-00095-00027918-00028226 that area back into the 2800 that's pDVtyYiQxXo-00096-00028227-00028406 gonna be back in just a support area pDVtyYiQxXo-00097-00028407-00028570 again and it's going to be very pDVtyYiQxXo-00098-00028572-00028730 important for the price to hold this pDVtyYiQxXo-00099-00028731-00028939 area if the price is going to breach pDVtyYiQxXo-00100-00028941-00029174 this area it's gonna slice through this pDVtyYiQxXo-00101-00029175-00029458 area then we may have an acceleration pDVtyYiQxXo-00102-00029460-00029890 lower back into back into the 80s once pDVtyYiQxXo-00103-00029891-00030155 again so what I'm gonna do right now is pDVtyYiQxXo-00104-00030156-00030620 I'm going to go ahead and calculate the pDVtyYiQxXo-00105-00030620-00030920 next support level that we can actually pDVtyYiQxXo-00106-00030920-00031292 look for more for a possible reversal or pDVtyYiQxXo-00107-00031293-00031558 continuation - so like I mentioned pDVtyYiQxXo-00108-00031560-00031868 before this 2020 800 is gonna be a big pDVtyYiQxXo-00109-00031869-00032111 catalyst and it's deriving also from pDVtyYiQxXo-00110-00032112-00032356 this prior pivot high that was set on pDVtyYiQxXo-00111-00032357-00032717 the 10th on July 10th so if this level pDVtyYiQxXo-00112-00032718-00032908 is going to be breached we may see that pDVtyYiQxXo-00113-00032909-00033115 acceleration lower all the way into the pDVtyYiQxXo-00114-00033116-00033283 twenty seven eighty nine twenty seven pDVtyYiQxXo-00115-00033284-00033483 ninety we also have for the twenty pDVtyYiQxXo-00116-00033484-00033721 simple moving average into at that point pDVtyYiQxXo-00117-00033722-00033914 and we also have this prior pivot high pDVtyYiQxXo-00118-00033915-00034205 that is going to create that support and pDVtyYiQxXo-00119-00034206-00034430 we may see a reversal off of that point pDVtyYiQxXo-00120-00034431-00034840 so at this point although we are trading pDVtyYiQxXo-00121-00034841-00035201 we closed in to enter the prior area of pDVtyYiQxXo-00122-00035202-00035527 support that was set on July 18th pDVtyYiQxXo-00123-00035528-00035876 through July 18th and 19th if we don't pDVtyYiQxXo-00124-00035877-00036043 see a reversal at this point we may see pDVtyYiQxXo-00125-00036044-00036260 a continuation lower in this information pDVtyYiQxXo-00126-00036261-00036611 we have from this hourly chart we have a pDVtyYiQxXo-00127-00036612-00036830 congestion we have a cluster it's pDVtyYiQxXo-00128-00036831-00037087 actually a weak cluster and if the 200 pDVtyYiQxXo-00129-00037088-00037235 moving average is not going to create pDVtyYiQxXo-00130-00037236-00037481 any kind of support for price action at pDVtyYiQxXo-00131-00037482-00037708 this point and also prior price action pDVtyYiQxXo-00132-00037709-00037921 that is creating this minor support for pDVtyYiQxXo-00133-00037922-00038117 current for price at this current level pDVtyYiQxXo-00134-00038118-00038735 between 28 10 and 28 2015 then we should pDVtyYiQxXo-00135-00038736-00038981 not we may not see a further pDVtyYiQxXo-00136-00038982-00039257 acceleration higher what I will be pDVtyYiQxXo-00137-00039258-00039593 monitoring from the open tonight in the pDVtyYiQxXo-00138-00039594-00039794 overnight trading session and also going pDVtyYiQxXo-00139-00039795-00039886 into pDVtyYiQxXo-00140-00039887-00040387 next week is a break above 2821 if the pDVtyYiQxXo-00141-00040388-00040660 price is gonna break over 2821 we may pDVtyYiQxXo-00142-00040661-00040957 see an acceleration higher price price pDVtyYiQxXo-00143-00040958-00041308 velocity may take may may raise the pDVtyYiQxXo-00144-00041309-00041620 price all the way into the 28 to 24 to pDVtyYiQxXo-00145-00041621-00041842 28 30 and this is gonna be a decision pDVtyYiQxXo-00146-00041843-00042289 point the decision area once again again pDVtyYiQxXo-00147-00042290-00042451 we're gonna be looking for either a pDVtyYiQxXo-00148-00042452-00042730 continuation over 30 or price rejection pDVtyYiQxXo-00149-00042731-00042868 but this is gonna be one of the key pDVtyYiQxXo-00150-00042869-00042926 points pDVtyYiQxXo-00151-00042927-00043123 it is deriving from this prior pivot pDVtyYiQxXo-00152-00043124-00043426 prior pivot hi and this is from last pDVtyYiQxXo-00153-00043427-00043633 week on Tuesday so we're gonna be pDVtyYiQxXo-00154-00043634-00043835 watching this area very very carefully pDVtyYiQxXo-00155-00043836-00044089 all right let's move on to Nasdaq Nasdaq pDVtyYiQxXo-00156-00044090-00044377 was one of one of the weakest actually pDVtyYiQxXo-00157-00044378-00044629 was the second weakest index followed a pDVtyYiQxXo-00158-00044630-00044957 second weakest index of weaker index was pDVtyYiQxXo-00159-00044958-00045316 Russell at this point and we're gonna pDVtyYiQxXo-00160-00045317-00045445 begin with let's pick it up with the pDVtyYiQxXo-00161-00045446-00045664 weekly chart here because I'm looking pDVtyYiQxXo-00162-00045665-00045964 for the day trading perspective on these pDVtyYiQxXo-00163-00045965-00046183 indices and also for the swing trade pDVtyYiQxXo-00164-00046184-00046448 perspective so like I said Nasdaq was pDVtyYiQxXo-00165-00046449-00046948 had a really climactic run into into the pDVtyYiQxXo-00166-00046949-00047362 newer trading session that began close pDVtyYiQxXo-00167-00047363-00047902 that began actually off the open exactly pDVtyYiQxXo-00168-00047903-00048174 off the open and the deceleration pDVtyYiQxXo-00169-00048175-00048467 actually kicked in at about one o'clock pDVtyYiQxXo-00170-00048468-00048829 one o'clock was the break time so when pDVtyYiQxXo-00171-00048830-00049063 everybody hit the breaks and literally pDVtyYiQxXo-00172-00049064-00049373 they they try to hold into the close of pDVtyYiQxXo-00173-00049374-00049840 the session but this congestion that we pDVtyYiQxXo-00174-00049841-00050014 have here is this cluster that we have pDVtyYiQxXo-00175-00050015-00050498 here is still very very very weak 73 22 pDVtyYiQxXo-00176-00050499-00050791 is resistance at this point and if the pDVtyYiQxXo-00177-00050792-00050977 price is not going to man it is not pDVtyYiQxXo-00178-00050978-00051199 going to break through this resistance pDVtyYiQxXo-00179-00051200-00051358 at seventy three twenty two seventy pDVtyYiQxXo-00180-00051359-00051706 three twenty five then we may see the pDVtyYiQxXo-00181-00051707-00052012 price price rejection that may oppress pDVtyYiQxXo-00182-00052013-00052213 the price and may push it back down into pDVtyYiQxXo-00183-00052214-00052484 these lows that were created on Friday pDVtyYiQxXo-00184-00052485-00052691 and we can see from the daily chart I'm pDVtyYiQxXo-00185-00052691-00052804 going to show you in just a couple of pDVtyYiQxXo-00186-00052805-00053029 seconds that we may have room to pDVtyYiQxXo-00187-00053030-00053258 continue more to the downside so pDVtyYiQxXo-00188-00053259-00053516 this is going to be on watch this pDVtyYiQxXo-00189-00053516-00053738 cluster is gonna be on hi hi watch pDVtyYiQxXo-00190-00053739-00053894 especially in the overnight trading pDVtyYiQxXo-00191-00053895-00054229 session and going into going into the pDVtyYiQxXo-00192-00054230-00054419 New York session tomorrow so the key pDVtyYiQxXo-00193-00054420-00054809 levels right here we need to break 73 23 pDVtyYiQxXo-00194-00054810-00055040 remember this is a minor area of pDVtyYiQxXo-00195-00055041-00055220 resistance that is deriving from this pDVtyYiQxXo-00196-00055221-00055487 prior pivot low that was set on Monday pDVtyYiQxXo-00197-00055488-00055748 at the open so this is going to be key pDVtyYiQxXo-00198-00055749-00055958 right here and also if we break pDVtyYiQxXo-00199-00055959-00056204 obviously below these lows right here at pDVtyYiQxXo-00200-00056204-00056435 the 7280 we may have room to pDVtyYiQxXo-00201-00056436-00056765 continuation lower how low can Nasdaq go pDVtyYiQxXo-00202-00056766-00056945 now stuck in mini futures alone let's pDVtyYiQxXo-00203-00056946-00057164 take a look at the overall or chart the pDVtyYiQxXo-00204-00057165-00057434 next area of support is coming all the pDVtyYiQxXo-00205-00057435-00057704 way at the 7230 zone where we have a pDVtyYiQxXo-00206-00057704-00057884 prior pivot height that was set back in pDVtyYiQxXo-00207-00057885-00058157 June on June 7th and that is the next pDVtyYiQxXo-00208-00058158-00058330 area of support that we see here we also pDVtyYiQxXo-00209-00058332-00058553 had a pull back into the same location pDVtyYiQxXo-00210-00058554-00058808 pull back and release all the way to the pDVtyYiQxXo-00211-00058809-00059054 up side that carried the price and we pDVtyYiQxXo-00212-00059054-00059294 actually had a new high that was created pDVtyYiQxXo-00213-00059295-00059767 at 75 30 just last week alright so these pDVtyYiQxXo-00214-00059769-00060047 are what we're expecting right now in pDVtyYiQxXo-00215-00060048-00060449 from from from a longer perspective I've pDVtyYiQxXo-00216-00060450-00060785 mentioned the 70 area at the 72 70 area pDVtyYiQxXo-00217-00060786-00061112 to 70 to 50 area 7250 areas gonna be the pDVtyYiQxXo-00218-00061113-00061286 problematic area fora pDVtyYiQxXo-00219-00061287-00061649 on acceleration back into the next area pDVtyYiQxXo-00220-00061650-00061928 of support which is 70 to 20 deriving pDVtyYiQxXo-00221-00061929-00062147 from this prior pivot high minor support pDVtyYiQxXo-00222-00062148-00062315 level developing at this point and we pDVtyYiQxXo-00223-00062316-00062459 also have a confluence with the 10 pDVtyYiQxXo-00224-00062460-00062633 exponential moving average so we can see pDVtyYiQxXo-00225-00062634-00062783 some kind of price reaction at that pDVtyYiQxXo-00226-00062784-00063032 point all right let's move on and let's pDVtyYiQxXo-00227-00063033-00063205 continue with Russell Russell one of the pDVtyYiQxXo-00228-00063207-00063461 weakest indices we have the sharpest pDVtyYiQxXo-00229-00063462-00063716 decline to point the two point two point pDVtyYiQxXo-00230-00063716-00063914 three percent and also close to 40 pDVtyYiQxXo-00231-00063915-00064085 points to the downside you don't see pDVtyYiQxXo-00232-00064086-00064238 their service every single day pDVtyYiQxXo-00233-00064239-00064427 especially when it comes to Russell so pDVtyYiQxXo-00234-00064428-00064571 if there was a massive distribution that pDVtyYiQxXo-00235-00064572-00064838 happened on Friday the weekly chart pDVtyYiQxXo-00236-00064839-00065129 suggests that if we open below we may pDVtyYiQxXo-00237-00065129-00065522 have room to to even release the more pDVtyYiQxXo-00238-00065523-00065723 selling pressure all the way into the pDVtyYiQxXo-00239-00065724-00065999 1650s zone 16:50 zone is an area of pDVtyYiQxXo-00240-00066000-00066416 support moving to the daily chart up and pDVtyYiQxXo-00241-00066417-00066551 again it is one of the pDVtyYiQxXo-00242-00066552-00066966 weakest it is we closed at the low in pDVtyYiQxXo-00243-00066967-00067229 Brussels so that's not a good sign for pDVtyYiQxXo-00244-00067230-00067688 recoup for a recoup at least into the pDVtyYiQxXo-00245-00067689-00067994 first moments from the open and so on pDVtyYiQxXo-00246-00067995-00068241 the next support level that we have in pDVtyYiQxXo-00247-00068242-00068421 the Russell and the fact that we have a pDVtyYiQxXo-00248-00068422-00068711 huge tradable void this is what created pDVtyYiQxXo-00249-00068712-00069042 the price velocity to increase its pDVtyYiQxXo-00250-00069043-00069285 dynamics in following through to the pDVtyYiQxXo-00251-00069286-00069492 lower targets the next target level is pDVtyYiQxXo-00252-00069493-00069773 going to be in just the 1650 that is pDVtyYiQxXo-00253-00069774-00069968 going to be a major support level at pDVtyYiQxXo-00254-00069969-00070181 this price and we can expect some price pDVtyYiQxXo-00255-00070182-00070580 reaction off of the 1650 so also Russell pDVtyYiQxXo-00256-00070581-00071012 is going to be on a continued continue pDVtyYiQxXo-00257-00071013-00071198 is going to continue to be on my watch pDVtyYiQxXo-00258-00071199-00071426 list as being one of the weakest indices pDVtyYiQxXo-00259-00071427-00071772 pullback sells in Russell may continue pDVtyYiQxXo-00260-00071773-00072078 lower as low as ensure the 1650s done pDVtyYiQxXo-00261-00072079-00072254 all right let's move on to some pDVtyYiQxXo-00262-00072255-00072575 commodities that we have that we have on pDVtyYiQxXo-00263-00072576-00072992 our panel we're gonna begin with crude pDVtyYiQxXo-00264-00072993-00073400 oil futures and since we're on to the pDVtyYiQxXo-00265-00073401-00073716 daily chart there they seem to be pDVtyYiQxXo-00266-00073717-00074012 topping out at the 70 taular zone what I pDVtyYiQxXo-00267-00074013-00074411 really like is the weekly charts on on pDVtyYiQxXo-00268-00074412-00074697 oil and over $70 we have talked about pDVtyYiQxXo-00269-00074698-00075066 this in our trading room over $70 may pDVtyYiQxXo-00270-00075067-00075319 may see a reversal back to the upside of pDVtyYiQxXo-00271-00075320-00075804 visiting a visiting prices of 72 73 and pDVtyYiQxXo-00272-00075805-00076299 back into these highs even above the 73 pDVtyYiQxXo-00273-00076300-00076560 zone for a continuation higher so the pDVtyYiQxXo-00274-00076561-00076884 weekly chart is actually looking very pDVtyYiQxXo-00275-00076885-00077093 strong at this point the more we pDVtyYiQxXo-00276-00077094-00077385 accelerate into the $70 the more we can pDVtyYiQxXo-00277-00077386-00077576 actually potentially move a little bit pDVtyYiQxXo-00278-00077577-00078060 higher from from the trending from the pDVtyYiQxXo-00279-00078061-00078317 day trading of trending day trading pDVtyYiQxXo-00280-00078318-00078579 trending perspective we had an immediate pDVtyYiQxXo-00281-00078580-00078840 reaction that came in at exactly 1:00 pDVtyYiQxXo-00282-00078841-00079199 o'clock when most of these when most of pDVtyYiQxXo-00283-00079200-00079479 these most of the indices in the futures pDVtyYiQxXo-00284-00079480-00079688 market have reversed we have seen the pDVtyYiQxXo-00285-00079689-00079855 same reversal that happened pDVtyYiQxXo-00286-00079856-00080113 one o'clock exactly and we're running pDVtyYiQxXo-00287-00080114-00080392 right here into a minor area off support pDVtyYiQxXo-00288-00080393-00080665 at the $69 this is a critical area pDVtyYiQxXo-00289-00080666-00080923 because if the price is gonna reach get pDVtyYiQxXo-00290-00080924-00081151 rejected at this price zone we may see pDVtyYiQxXo-00291-00081152-00081454 an acceleration lower and if the price pDVtyYiQxXo-00292-00081455-00081700 is gonna trade below 68 80 we may see pDVtyYiQxXo-00293-00081701-00082042 the price come back down into the 68 40s pDVtyYiQxXo-00294-00082043-00082240 on so it is very important for price to pDVtyYiQxXo-00295-00082241-00082495 try to move up a little bit and try to pDVtyYiQxXo-00296-00082496-00082774 break above the 69 zone push higher into pDVtyYiQxXo-00297-00082775-00083110 the 16 9 20 so therefore if the price is pDVtyYiQxXo-00298-00083111-00083305 gonna break through the 69 20 any pDVtyYiQxXo-00299-00083306-00083689 pullback in to the $69 may be viable for pDVtyYiQxXo-00300-00083690-00083923 a target level into the 69 80 and back pDVtyYiQxXo-00301-00083924-00084157 into the $70 I would love to see the pDVtyYiQxXo-00302-00084158-00084328 price continued higher and push higher pDVtyYiQxXo-00303-00084329-00084651 into and create these higher highs and pDVtyYiQxXo-00304-00084652-00084931 higher lows going into the $70 so we pDVtyYiQxXo-00305-00084932-00085180 could have a better risk for a possible pDVtyYiQxXo-00306-00085181-00085453 swing and also for a possible day trade pDVtyYiQxXo-00307-00085454-00085675 moving forward let's move on to gold pDVtyYiQxXo-00308-00085676-00086056 gold futures we've rolled into a new pDVtyYiQxXo-00309-00086057-00086440 contract last week and let's begin with pDVtyYiQxXo-00310-00086441-00086629 a daily chart daily chart has been pDVtyYiQxXo-00311-00086630-00086899 literally accumulating a lot of has been pDVtyYiQxXo-00312-00086900-00087244 coiling and and it has set a top into pDVtyYiQxXo-00313-00087245-00087657 the 12 36 area and it has not gone pDVtyYiQxXo-00314-00087658-00088021 anywhere yet we have pinned you have you pDVtyYiQxXo-00315-00088022-00088318 see the bottom here at the 12 10 zone pDVtyYiQxXo-00316-00088319-00088642 and let's bring back the weekly chart pDVtyYiQxXo-00317-00088643-00088816 weekly chart seems a little bit more pDVtyYiQxXo-00318-00088817-00089209 appealing to me this is why gold is pDVtyYiQxXo-00319-00089210-00089491 having such a hard time at the 12 36 and pDVtyYiQxXo-00320-00089492-00089764 12 37 area we have a prior pivot low pDVtyYiQxXo-00321-00089765-00090013 that is a 12 37 that is creating a lot pDVtyYiQxXo-00322-00090014-00090313 of resistance for current price action pDVtyYiQxXo-00323-00090314-00090589 we are also stabilizing things you can pDVtyYiQxXo-00324-00090590-00090904 see we have pushed through this 200 pDVtyYiQxXo-00325-00090905-00091159 moving average have tapped into the pDVtyYiQxXo-00326-00091160-00091407 double support level here out very close pDVtyYiQxXo-00327-00091408-00091747 to the 1200 level reversed and this week pDVtyYiQxXo-00328-00091748-00092019 a pretty neutral candle right here and I pDVtyYiQxXo-00329-00092020-00092319 do have an alert for the 12:37 20 stone pDVtyYiQxXo-00330-00092320-00092578 I see this as a possible swing fine pDVtyYiQxXo-00331-00092579-00092965 moving into next week I mean moving into pDVtyYiQxXo-00332-00092966-00093160 this week to the Sunday okay pDVtyYiQxXo-00333-00093161-00093580 a so if we got a push to the upside we pDVtyYiQxXo-00334-00093581-00093769 may really some buying pressure that may pDVtyYiQxXo-00335-00093770-00094078 take the price into the 1260 as a target pDVtyYiQxXo-00336-00094079-00094474 level as a price target level so from pDVtyYiQxXo-00337-00094475-00094693 the weekly chart we look positive on pDVtyYiQxXo-00338-00094694-00095071 gold continuing continuing through the pDVtyYiQxXo-00339-00095072-00095305 week but it is contingent on the price pDVtyYiQxXo-00340-00095306-00095650 breaking the 1237 area alright let's pDVtyYiQxXo-00341-00095651-00095893 begin with some more commodities and pDVtyYiQxXo-00342-00095894-00096153 what I have on my list is actually pDVtyYiQxXo-00343-00096154-00096496 heating oil and heating oil has been on pDVtyYiQxXo-00344-00096497-00096796 fire has been really really rising a pDVtyYiQxXo-00345-00096797-00097156 really nice price action and last week pDVtyYiQxXo-00346-00097157-00097429 we've triggered we've taken we've have pDVtyYiQxXo-00347-00097430-00097837 triggered a weekly buy at the 2.14 level pDVtyYiQxXo-00348-00097838-00098157 acceleration a little higher and again pDVtyYiQxXo-00349-00098158-00098359 it has been battling this area of the pDVtyYiQxXo-00350-00098360-00098653 214 to 215 level from this prior pivot pDVtyYiQxXo-00351-00098654-00098826 high that was established back in pDVtyYiQxXo-00352-00098827-00099160 January 29th we may have room for a pDVtyYiQxXo-00353-00099161-00099367 continuation higher into the two 20s pDVtyYiQxXo-00354-00099368-00099732 once again so I see the pricey a pattern pDVtyYiQxXo-00355-00099733-00100015 of price continuation as long as this pDVtyYiQxXo-00356-00100016-00100249 price price action is intact we may see pDVtyYiQxXo-00357-00100250-00100510 some more some more buying pressure pDVtyYiQxXo-00358-00100511-00100875 coming into heating oil right now we had pDVtyYiQxXo-00359-00100876-00101368 a red a red day on on Friday we have not pDVtyYiQxXo-00360-00101369-00101548 triggered a weekly sell we're still pDVtyYiQxXo-00361-00101549-00101731 stabilizing you see this prior pivot pDVtyYiQxXo-00362-00101732-00102067 high here from July 13th as a creating pDVtyYiQxXo-00363-00102068-00102196 support for current price action pDVtyYiQxXo-00364-00102197-00102408 actually we do have a strong area that pDVtyYiQxXo-00365-00102409-00102654 is coming from actually an overlap of pDVtyYiQxXo-00366-00102655-00102946 the 10 exponential and the 20 simple pDVtyYiQxXo-00367-00102947-00103260 moving average and we are we actually pDVtyYiQxXo-00368-00103261-00103482 treated on Friday a little bit higher pDVtyYiQxXo-00369-00103483-00103813 than the 50 we landed into this cluster pDVtyYiQxXo-00370-00103814-00103990 here so this is what the problem is pDVtyYiQxXo-00371-00103991-00104200 right now this prior resistance but the pDVtyYiQxXo-00372-00104201-00104436 more we stabilize and even a pull back pDVtyYiQxXo-00373-00104438-00104808 into the to 14 to 2 to 13 and a half we pDVtyYiQxXo-00374-00104809-00105001 may see a reversal that may push the pDVtyYiQxXo-00375-00105002-00105204 price higher back into these highs and pDVtyYiQxXo-00376-00105205-00105382 into the to 20s then I see another pDVtyYiQxXo-00377-00105383-00105735 target level into the two into the to 22 pDVtyYiQxXo-00378-00105736-00106039 into even into the to 25 may release pDVtyYiQxXo-00379-00106040-00106399 some buying pressure into that zone RB pDVtyYiQxXo-00380-00106400-00106458 and there's pDVtyYiQxXo-00381-00106459-00106827 gasoline RBOB landed into resistance pDVtyYiQxXo-00382-00106828-00107044 right here and made a peekaboo high pDVtyYiQxXo-00383-00107045-00107347 above the resistance area of very perky pDVtyYiQxXo-00384-00107348-00107743 and very very strong and if we break pDVtyYiQxXo-00385-00107744-00107950 above this area and we stabilize above pDVtyYiQxXo-00386-00107951-00108172 this area again we may see higher prices pDVtyYiQxXo-00387-00108173-00108411 and a price continuation into the two pDVtyYiQxXo-00388-00108413-00108745 twenty and back to the 225 and 228 so pDVtyYiQxXo-00389-00108746-00108876 this is gonna be on close watch pDVtyYiQxXo-00390-00108877-00109147 obviously had an acceleration higher for pDVtyYiQxXo-00391-00109148-00109333 the last one two three four five six pDVtyYiQxXo-00392-00109333-00109686 seven eight nine days so I think it's a pDVtyYiQxXo-00393-00109688-00109873 high time for a little bit of a pullback pDVtyYiQxXo-00394-00109874-00110158 here double-top let's watch a pullback pDVtyYiQxXo-00395-00110158-00110407 and let's see if we get it back into the pDVtyYiQxXo-00396-00110408-00110752 to twelve zone or the 210 area to 210 pDVtyYiQxXo-00397-00110753-00111054 area and the 215 area may potentially pDVtyYiQxXo-00398-00111055-00111271 create another buying opportunity for pDVtyYiQxXo-00399-00111272-00111682 RBOB for continuation higher let's take pDVtyYiQxXo-00400-00111683-00111879 a look at natural gases since we're pDVtyYiQxXo-00401-00111880-00112147 discussing energies here let's take a pDVtyYiQxXo-00402-00112148-00112699 look at natural gas and natural gas this pDVtyYiQxXo-00403-00112700-00112852 is the daily chart right here worried pDVtyYiQxXo-00404-00112853-00113101 blast we had a pretty good last week was pDVtyYiQxXo-00405-00113102-00113366 a pretty good week for for a natural gas pDVtyYiQxXo-00406-00113367-00113602 we had Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and pDVtyYiQxXo-00407-00113603-00113910 Friday acceleration to the upside let's pDVtyYiQxXo-00408-00113911-00114060 take a look at the weekly chart and see pDVtyYiQxXo-00409-00114061-00114283 if we're setting something up here in pDVtyYiQxXo-00410-00114283-00114534 the two-point 80s going to be a launch pDVtyYiQxXo-00411-00114535-00114844 pad for price for natural it for natural pDVtyYiQxXo-00412-00114845-00115102 gas it's not gonna be an easy ride pDVtyYiQxXo-00413-00115103-00115450 because it has a lot of key strong pDVtyYiQxXo-00414-00115451-00115659 levels that are gonna try to push the pDVtyYiQxXo-00415-00115660-00115761 price a little lower pDVtyYiQxXo-00416-00115763-00116028 we have an abundance of moving averages pDVtyYiQxXo-00417-00116029-00116281 here so not only that we have which the pDVtyYiQxXo-00418-00116282-00116500 200 moving average that is oppressing a pDVtyYiQxXo-00419-00116501-00116668 lot of resistance at that point but we pDVtyYiQxXo-00420-00116669-00116950 have 220 simple moving average we have pDVtyYiQxXo-00421-00116951-00117151 the 10 exponential and we have 250 pDVtyYiQxXo-00422-00117152-00117331 simple moving average that is creating pDVtyYiQxXo-00423-00117332-00117649 some price oppression at that point but pDVtyYiQxXo-00424-00117650-00117891 if we release above those areas the more pDVtyYiQxXo-00425-00117892-00118116 we accelerate a little higher I'm gonna pDVtyYiQxXo-00426-00118117-00118440 watch it on the one-hour chart and also pDVtyYiQxXo-00427-00118441-00118866 going to be watching it on to the 4-hour pDVtyYiQxXo-00428-00118867-00119089 chart for a continuation pattern and pDVtyYiQxXo-00429-00119090-00119511 obviously for for a small risk at this pDVtyYiQxXo-00430-00119513-00119741 point so pDVtyYiQxXo-00431-00119742-00119867 I just want to bring the monthly chart pDVtyYiQxXo-00432-00119868-00120043 real quick even though we have been pDVtyYiQxXo-00433-00120044-00120314 trading in a very sideways pattern for a pDVtyYiQxXo-00434-00120315-00120539 few months now for a few considerable pDVtyYiQxXo-00435-00120540-00120854 months still the Bison remains into the pDVtyYiQxXo-00436-00120855-00121159 250 s to 260 areas and any bounce into pDVtyYiQxXo-00437-00121160-00121373 this area may create price acceleration pDVtyYiQxXo-00438-00121374-00121718 to the upside all right so let's move on pDVtyYiQxXo-00439-00121719-00122102 now to copper and let's check out the pDVtyYiQxXo-00440-00122103-00122402 the charts and we had a pullback into pDVtyYiQxXo-00441-00122403-00122645 the 50 on a simple moving average also a pDVtyYiQxXo-00442-00122646-00122816 strong confluence area deriving from pDVtyYiQxXo-00443-00122817-00122966 these prairie pivot highs that create pDVtyYiQxXo-00444-00122967-00123266 minor support at this price point at the pDVtyYiQxXo-00445-00123267-00123602 266 and the upper to 66 level we have a pDVtyYiQxXo-00446-00123603-00123995 little bit of lift in price at the 276 I pDVtyYiQxXo-00447-00123996-00124226 would actually like copper if it's pDVtyYiQxXo-00448-00124227-00124486 raised over $3 so this is the pattern pDVtyYiQxXo-00449-00124488-00124643 that I'm seeing and by the way this is pDVtyYiQxXo-00450-00124644-00124919 the monthly chart we had we had a pDVtyYiQxXo-00451-00124920-00125102 sideways range acceleration higher pDVtyYiQxXo-00452-00125103-00125345 pulled back into the 10 exponential pDVtyYiQxXo-00453-00125346-00125699 acceleration higher hit resistance we pDVtyYiQxXo-00454-00125700-00125966 have pulled back we didn't hold the 10 pDVtyYiQxXo-00455-00125967-00126182 EMA did not hold and obviously this pDVtyYiQxXo-00456-00126183-00126389 prior pivot hide to not hold so this pDVtyYiQxXo-00457-00126390-00126554 minor resistance was a little bit more pDVtyYiQxXo-00458-00126555-00126791 fragile wanted to retest a little bit of pDVtyYiQxXo-00459-00126792-00127094 a little bit steeper so we didn't pDVtyYiQxXo-00460-00127095-00127285 continue higher but again we're still pDVtyYiQxXo-00461-00127286-00127493 respecting from the monthly perspective pDVtyYiQxXo-00462-00127494-00127646 we're still respecting the higher highs pDVtyYiQxXo-00463-00127647-00127994 and higher lows so if we trade above $3 pDVtyYiQxXo-00464-00127995-00128165 this is gonna be my trigger for a pDVtyYiQxXo-00465-00128166-00128345 continuation higher for a longer-term pDVtyYiQxXo-00466-00128346-00128678 trade in copper also from the weekly pDVtyYiQxXo-00467-00128679-00128884 chart last week we've triggered so this pDVtyYiQxXo-00468-00128885-00129089 is a really nice trigger that we had pDVtyYiQxXo-00469-00129090-00129443 into the 280 area 280 was the trigger pDVtyYiQxXo-00470-00129444-00129755 point was the pullback buy it with a pDVtyYiQxXo-00471-00129756-00130091 weekly trigger at 280 we've continued pDVtyYiQxXo-00472-00130092-00130367 with higher and we still have a lot of pDVtyYiQxXo-00473-00130368-00130595 room to continue higher into the 290 so pDVtyYiQxXo-00474-00130596-00131039 I'm gonna watch a copper and let's zoom pDVtyYiQxXo-00475-00131040-00131339 in to the daily chart right here okay so pDVtyYiQxXo-00476-00131340-00131567 we have established a bottom so remember pDVtyYiQxXo-00477-00131568-00131789 the higher time frames are telling us pDVtyYiQxXo-00478-00131790-00132104 that we may still have a continuation to pDVtyYiQxXo-00479-00132105-00132362 the upside but we just need the price to pDVtyYiQxXo-00480-00132363-00132743 stabilize root pivot in to create that pDVtyYiQxXo-00481-00132744-00132978 sustainable support level from which pDVtyYiQxXo-00482-00132979-00133263 can actually lift and reverse back to pDVtyYiQxXo-00483-00133264-00133543 the upside right now we pretty much have pDVtyYiQxXo-00484-00133544-00133860 here a 180 reversal so we had an pDVtyYiQxXo-00485-00133861-00134025 acceleration higher and this is the pDVtyYiQxXo-00486-00134026-00134388 daily chart and we've we've had Thursday pDVtyYiQxXo-00487-00134389-00134724 the turnaround here and we have Friday a pDVtyYiQxXo-00488-00134725-00134964 pretty stable day so we're gonna watch pDVtyYiQxXo-00489-00134965-00135181 this area remember that on Friday we pDVtyYiQxXo-00490-00135182-00135535 finished into the 278 5 which is a minor pDVtyYiQxXo-00491-00135536-00135820 support level at at current level so pDVtyYiQxXo-00492-00135821-00136009 we're gonna possibly watch for a pDVtyYiQxXo-00493-00136010-00136164 continuation higher and if the price pDVtyYiQxXo-00494-00136165-00136479 should trigger to 83 I'm actually gonna pDVtyYiQxXo-00495-00136480-00136645 set an alert right here because I'm pDVtyYiQxXo-00496-00136646-00136819 gonna have it on close watch obviously pDVtyYiQxXo-00497-00136820-00137209 above ok so if we break above this level pDVtyYiQxXo-00498-00137210-00137446 we may have a continuation higher back pDVtyYiQxXo-00499-00137447-00137712 into the 286 which is last week's high pDVtyYiQxXo-00500-00137713-00138106 and then a continuation in 2 to 288 snow pDVtyYiQxXo-00501-00138107-00138264 so again this is gonna be a highly pDVtyYiQxXo-00502-00138265-00138579 turbulent level but if we break through pDVtyYiQxXo-00503-00138580-00138801 the 280 level then we have a really nice pDVtyYiQxXo-00504-00138802-00138999 tradable void all the way into two pDVtyYiQxXo-00505-00139000-00139732 dollars and 96 cents and sorry about pDVtyYiQxXo-00506-00139733-00139926 that I'm still recouping after a really pDVtyYiQxXo-00507-00139927-00140160 really bad call all right let's take a pDVtyYiQxXo-00508-00140161-00140431 look quick look right now and wheat pDVtyYiQxXo-00509-00140432-00140811 wheat futures and let's bring the pDVtyYiQxXo-00510-00140812-00140988 monthly chart up the monthly chart has pDVtyYiQxXo-00511-00140989-00141237 been consolidating double bottoming pDVtyYiQxXo-00512-00141238-00141450 right here into this prior pivot low pDVtyYiQxXo-00513-00141451-00141738 right prior pivot low what I do like pDVtyYiQxXo-00514-00141739-00142023 about this pattern about wheat is that pDVtyYiQxXo-00515-00142024-00142287 it moved a little lower has created pDVtyYiQxXo-00516-00142288-00142485 support at the Tweedy ones they'll lift pDVtyYiQxXo-00517-00142486-00142795 it and then created another secondary pDVtyYiQxXo-00518-00142796-00143124 support level at the 409 so we do have pDVtyYiQxXo-00519-00143125-00143526 our second higher low at this level and pDVtyYiQxXo-00520-00143527-00143787 we're really trying and once again we do pDVtyYiQxXo-00521-00143788-00144172 have we do have across the 50 and the pDVtyYiQxXo-00522-00144173-00144474 tenia may we have bottoming tails that pDVtyYiQxXo-00523-00144475-00144643 are suggesting that the price may pDVtyYiQxXo-00524-00144644-00144885 continue higher at this point so the pDVtyYiQxXo-00525-00144886-00145069 monthly chart looks like if it we break pDVtyYiQxXo-00526-00145070-00145326 the 550 again we may have room for a pDVtyYiQxXo-00527-00145327-00145509 continuation higher let's move on to the pDVtyYiQxXo-00528-00145510-00145674 weekly chart weekly chart seems rather pDVtyYiQxXo-00529-00145675-00145873 choppy with pretty white stops I pDVtyYiQxXo-00530-00145874-00146085 typically don't trade something that pDVtyYiQxXo-00531-00146086-00146335 doesn't have any tight stops pDVtyYiQxXo-00532-00146336-00146776 I like the bounce that occurred on the pDVtyYiQxXo-00533-00146777-00147019 weekly chart very very strong we have pDVtyYiQxXo-00534-00147020-00147172 the Fanning out of the moving averages pDVtyYiQxXo-00535-00147173-00147424 here we have 250 moving average and we pDVtyYiQxXo-00536-00147425-00147673 have the support from the 200 moving pDVtyYiQxXo-00537-00147674-00147913 average we have a lot of bottoming tails pDVtyYiQxXo-00538-00147914-00148186 at this point and the breakout came over pDVtyYiQxXo-00539-00148187-00149143 the 515 tone from the daily chart we had pDVtyYiQxXo-00540-00149144-00149407 a really big day last week and this was pDVtyYiQxXo-00541-00149408-00149647 on Thursday a release higher tap into pDVtyYiQxXo-00542-00149648-00150055 this double top right here so I think pDVtyYiQxXo-00543-00150056-00150232 the more we pulled back back into the pDVtyYiQxXo-00544-00150233-00150514 520 we can see a reversal at the 520 and pDVtyYiQxXo-00545-00150515-00150754 for a continuation higher let's take a pDVtyYiQxXo-00546-00150755-00150940 look at something that I have been in a pDVtyYiQxXo-00547-00150941-00151117 trade that I have called and I have been pDVtyYiQxXo-00548-00151118-00151927 in for quite some time I do apologize pDVtyYiQxXo-00549-00151928-00152092 for the coughing I try to turn off the pDVtyYiQxXo-00550-00152093-00152377 mic whenever I cough still recouping pDVtyYiQxXo-00551-00152378-00152728 after a really really bad cold so I pDVtyYiQxXo-00552-00152729-00153001 still see feeder cattle for a pDVtyYiQxXo-00553-00153002-00153286 continuation higher especially when it pDVtyYiQxXo-00554-00153287-00153499 comes to the weekly chart if we break pDVtyYiQxXo-00555-00153500-00153784 over to 155 level we may continue back pDVtyYiQxXo-00556-00153785-00154185 into the 160s don't ok the last one pDVtyYiQxXo-00557-00154186-00154417 we're gonna talk a little bit about live pDVtyYiQxXo-00558-00154418-00154660 cattle and ask the basing for quite some pDVtyYiQxXo-00559-00154661-00154945 time we do have a pattern of higher pDVtyYiQxXo-00560-00154946-00155170 highs right here and a retest of the pDVtyYiQxXo-00561-00155171-00155371 same support level developing a cluster pDVtyYiQxXo-00562-00155372-00155824 at the median level of 105 we finally pDVtyYiQxXo-00563-00155825-00156088 broke above the range and this is last pDVtyYiQxXo-00564-00156089-00156262 week in this week we have managed to pDVtyYiQxXo-00565-00156263-00156618 trade above and if we stabilize between pDVtyYiQxXo-00566-00156619-00157060 106 5 & a 110 zone we may have that 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a frontal section in the dry pEEB_viuXSy-00010-00002319-00002510 skull that goes through the pre-perform pEEB_viuXSy-00011-00002511-00002783 plates they're here pEEB_viuXSy-00012-00002784-00003007 on each side the grip foam plate forms pEEB_viuXSy-00013-00003008-00003335 the narrow roof of the nasal cavity pEEB_viuXSy-00014-00003336-00003559 here's a medial view of the nasal cavity pEEB_viuXSy-00015-00003560-00003911 the gripreform plate is here pEEB_viuXSy-00016-00003911-00004143 the filaments of the olfactory nerve pEEB_viuXSy-00017-00004144-00004351 here they are in close-up pEEB_viuXSy-00018-00004352-00004559 pass through the krypton plate and run pEEB_viuXSy-00019-00004560-00004743 just beneath the mucus membrane to reach pEEB_viuXSy-00020-00004744-00004999 nerve endings in this olfactory area on pEEB_viuXSy-00021-00005000-00005238 the lateral and medial surfaces of the pEEB_viuXSy-00022-00005239-00005571 nasal cavity pFTwLriBlsI-00000-00000048-00000262 the alliance aligned company lake on pFTwLriBlsI-00001-00000263-00000463 space ways has been bought out by the pFTwLriBlsI-00002-00000463-00000711 federation aligned mega corporation pFTwLriBlsI-00003-00000712-00000927 core dynamics in this video we're going pFTwLriBlsI-00004-00000927-00001095 to delve into what this might mean pFTwLriBlsI-00005-00001096-00001343 and why frontier might be pursuing this pFTwLriBlsI-00006-00001344-00001503 storyline pFTwLriBlsI-00007-00001504-00001655 if you enjoyed this video remember to pFTwLriBlsI-00008-00001655-00001823 subscribe to the channel and turn on pFTwLriBlsI-00009-00001823-00001942 notifications pFTwLriBlsI-00010-00001943-00002110 and if you'd like to support our work pFTwLriBlsI-00011-00002111-00002279 you'll also find us on patreon pFTwLriBlsI-00012-00002280-00002471 links to everything you need are in the pFTwLriBlsI-00013-00002472-00002718 description below pFTwLriBlsI-00014-00002719-00002942 with the rebirth of gal net late last pFTwLriBlsI-00015-00002943-00003199 year the in-game news service pFTwLriBlsI-00016-00003200-00003438 took on a new importance in the universe pFTwLriBlsI-00017-00003439-00003590 of elite dangerous pFTwLriBlsI-00018-00003592-00003751 where galnet had previously pFTwLriBlsI-00019-00003752-00003967 predominantly been away for frontier to pFTwLriBlsI-00020-00003968-00004191 inject colour and backstory into the pFTwLriBlsI-00021-00004192-00004238 game pFTwLriBlsI-00022-00004239-00004454 with little or no changes actually pFTwLriBlsI-00023-00004455-00004654 appearing as a result of the preceding pFTwLriBlsI-00024-00004655-00004791 galnet article pFTwLriBlsI-00025-00004792-00005111 it now serves as a herald for actual pFTwLriBlsI-00026-00005112-00005438 events and additions to the game world pFTwLriBlsI-00027-00005439-00005615 if something is being talked about on pFTwLriBlsI-00028-00005616-00005799 gal net it's because it has pFTwLriBlsI-00029-00005800-00006111 changed or been added or it's going to pFTwLriBlsI-00030-00006112-00006167 change pFTwLriBlsI-00031-00006168-00006470 or be added further to this frontier pFTwLriBlsI-00032-00006472-00006678 have reiterated a number of times that pFTwLriBlsI-00033-00006679-00006895 the threads running on gal net are all pFTwLriBlsI-00034-00006895-00007006 for a reason pFTwLriBlsI-00035-00007008-00007223 they will have resonance in the game pFTwLriBlsI-00036-00007223-00007423 beyond simple text pFTwLriBlsI-00037-00007423-00007614 a couple of years ago the buying of one pFTwLriBlsI-00038-00007615-00007806 mega corporation by another mega pFTwLriBlsI-00039-00007808-00007895 corporation pFTwLriBlsI-00040-00007895-00008078 in the universe of elite dangerous would pFTwLriBlsI-00041-00008079-00008271 have been largely ignorable pFTwLriBlsI-00042-00008272-00008551 with no measurable consequences in the pFTwLriBlsI-00043-00008552-00008791 brave new world of elite and gal net pFTwLriBlsI-00044-00008792-00009006 and with a large expansion just around pFTwLriBlsI-00045-00009007-00009095 the corner pFTwLriBlsI-00046-00009096-00009351 the fictional corporate shenanigans have pFTwLriBlsI-00047-00009352-00009446 a purpose pFTwLriBlsI-00048-00009447-00009687 there has to be a reason that frontier pFTwLriBlsI-00049-00009688-00009967 is choosing to play out this storyline pFTwLriBlsI-00050-00009968-00010287 so what's the reason core dynamics and pFTwLriBlsI-00051-00010288-00010414 lake on space ways pFTwLriBlsI-00052-00010415-00010599 are both predominantly ship pFTwLriBlsI-00053-00010600-00010719 manufacturers pFTwLriBlsI-00054-00010720-00010974 core dynamics is federation aligned and pFTwLriBlsI-00055-00010975-00011095 mostly produces pFTwLriBlsI-00056-00011096-00011335 out and out combat vessels and capital pFTwLriBlsI-00057-00011336-00011399 ships pFTwLriBlsI-00058-00011400-00011663 they also own vodal the company behind pFTwLriBlsI-00059-00011664-00011751 the venerable pFTwLriBlsI-00060-00011752-00012070 service recon vehicle the most obvious pFTwLriBlsI-00061-00012071-00012287 answer is therefore the introduction of pFTwLriBlsI-00062-00012288-00012342 a new pFTwLriBlsI-00063-00012343-00012574 ship or ships but that wouldn't pFTwLriBlsI-00064-00012575-00012822 necessarily require the storyline pFTwLriBlsI-00065-00012823-00013055 to make it happen a new ship could be pFTwLriBlsI-00066-00013056-00013191 easily introduced pFTwLriBlsI-00067-00013191-00013375 without the need for the boardroom pFTwLriBlsI-00068-00013376-00013543 battling backstory pFTwLriBlsI-00069-00013544-00013766 if you wanted to remove a ship or two pFTwLriBlsI-00070-00013768-00013927 from sale however pFTwLriBlsI-00071-00013928-00014127 that could be excused with the pFTwLriBlsI-00072-00014128-00014335 introduction of new ownership to the pFTwLriBlsI-00073-00014336-00014463 company pFTwLriBlsI-00074-00014463-00014711 before the panic sets in this doesn't pFTwLriBlsI-00075-00014712-00014911 suddenly mean your highly engineered pFTwLriBlsI-00076-00014912-00015071 type 9 or chieftain pFTwLriBlsI-00077-00015072-00015222 is going to disappear from your pFTwLriBlsI-00078-00015223-00015479 inventory one day but it might mean pFTwLriBlsI-00079-00015480-00015727 that a ship that frontier deems surplus pFTwLriBlsI-00080-00015728-00015838 to requirements pFTwLriBlsI-00081-00015840-00015999 or something that is going to be made pFTwLriBlsI-00082-00016000-00016247 largely obsolete by the introduction of pFTwLriBlsI-00083-00016247-00016375 a new ship pFTwLriBlsI-00084-00016376-00016615 could possibly be unavailable for new pFTwLriBlsI-00085-00016616-00016694 purchases pFTwLriBlsI-00086-00016695-00016935 it's never happened before but it's not pFTwLriBlsI-00087-00016936-00017199 outside the realms of possibility pFTwLriBlsI-00088-00017200-00017415 the introduction of a new ship something pFTwLriBlsI-00089-00017416-00017599 that combines the best of both pFTwLriBlsI-00090-00017600-00017791 companies wealth of experience and pFTwLriBlsI-00091-00017792-00017991 knowledge that could also be a pFTwLriBlsI-00092-00017992-00018150 possibility pFTwLriBlsI-00093-00018151-00018343 i can hear you saying panther clipper pFTwLriBlsI-00094-00018344-00018575 already traditionally the clipper has pFTwLriBlsI-00095-00018576-00018791 been a product of the zorgon peterson pFTwLriBlsI-00096-00018792-00018903 design bureau pFTwLriBlsI-00097-00018904-00019167 but this is frontier's game they can pFTwLriBlsI-00098-00019168-00019391 make the clipper a lake on core dynamics pFTwLriBlsI-00099-00019392-00019479 joint product pFTwLriBlsI-00100-00019480-00019767 if they so desire whilst a new ship or pFTwLriBlsI-00101-00019768-00019943 ships is an obvious answer to the pFTwLriBlsI-00102-00019944-00020111 question we're wrestling with here pFTwLriBlsI-00103-00020112-00020367 it does ignore the larger implications pFTwLriBlsI-00104-00020368-00020550 of what frontier is doing with this pFTwLriBlsI-00105-00020551-00020694 story thread pFTwLriBlsI-00106-00020695-00020935 recently the alliance has been jabbing pFTwLriBlsI-00107-00020936-00021150 at the thyroids with a pointy stick pFTwLriBlsI-00108-00021151-00021343 this is particularly interesting when pFTwLriBlsI-00109-00021344-00021478 you note that professor pFTwLriBlsI-00110-00021479-00021750 ishmael palin the notable formerly pFTwLriBlsI-00111-00021751-00021839 federation pFTwLriBlsI-00112-00021840-00022127 aligned thyroid prodder left his base in pFTwLriBlsI-00113-00022128-00022255 the maya system pFTwLriBlsI-00114-00022256-00022494 after the thyroids got annoyed with him pFTwLriBlsI-00115-00022495-00022607 and he ended up pFTwLriBlsI-00116-00022608-00022855 at a new facility in the alliance pFTwLriBlsI-00117-00022856-00023063 controlled ark system pFTwLriBlsI-00118-00023064-00023294 that's a significant amount of thyroid pFTwLriBlsI-00119-00023295-00023591 knowledge in the hands of the alliance pFTwLriBlsI-00120-00023592-00023830 when the adamaster mega ship appeared on pFTwLriBlsI-00121-00023831-00023975 halloween last year pFTwLriBlsI-00122-00023976-00024278 after a 200-year drift in the black pFTwLriBlsI-00123-00024279-00024478 having encountered the thyroids in the pFTwLriBlsI-00124-00024479-00024599 colsack nebula pFTwLriBlsI-00125-00024600-00024830 and we believe having recovered pFTwLriBlsI-00126-00024831-00025119 something thyroid from that encounter pFTwLriBlsI-00127-00025120-00025342 it was intercepted by alliance pFTwLriBlsI-00128-00025343-00025430 operatives pFTwLriBlsI-00129-00025431-00025646 who boarded the vessel and afterward pFTwLriBlsI-00130-00025647-00025750 reported pFTwLriBlsI-00131-00025751-00025967 that there was nothing of interest on pFTwLriBlsI-00132-00025968-00026062 board pFTwLriBlsI-00133-00026063-00026327 that would seem to be let's be kind pFTwLriBlsI-00134-00026327-00026495 inaccurate pFTwLriBlsI-00135-00026495-00026702 the result would appear to be more pFTwLriBlsI-00136-00026704-00026846 thyroid knowledge pFTwLriBlsI-00137-00026847-00027143 in the hands of the alliance lacon is pFTwLriBlsI-00138-00027144-00027335 the only company in the game pFTwLriBlsI-00139-00027336-00027579 that currently produces dedicated pFTwLriBlsI-00140-00027580-00027751 anti-thyroid ships pFTwLriBlsI-00141-00027752-00028055 and it is or at least it was alliance pFTwLriBlsI-00142-00028056-00028174 aligned pFTwLriBlsI-00143-00028175-00028343 it's a safe bet that whatever the pFTwLriBlsI-00144-00028344-00028558 alliance knows about fargoids pFTwLriBlsI-00145-00028560-00028927 lacon also now knows not only would that pFTwLriBlsI-00146-00028927-00029199 information be of value to core dynamics pFTwLriBlsI-00147-00029200-00029351 and by association pFTwLriBlsI-00148-00029352-00029599 the federation but removing that pFTwLriBlsI-00149-00029600-00029767 knowledge and expertise from the pFTwLriBlsI-00150-00029768-00029831 alliance pFTwLriBlsI-00151-00029832-00030046 who have been recently actively annoying pFTwLriBlsI-00152-00030047-00030167 the thyroids pFTwLriBlsI-00153-00030168-00030439 leaves them extremely vulnerable the pFTwLriBlsI-00154-00030439-00030535 alliance has pFTwLriBlsI-00155-00030536-00030823 no rep gain grind available for players pFTwLriBlsI-00156-00030824-00030895 to use pFTwLriBlsI-00157-00030895-00031223 no ships locked behind that grind if the pFTwLriBlsI-00158-00031224-00031423 thyroids attacked and the alliance were pFTwLriBlsI-00159-00031424-00031558 significantly hurt pFTwLriBlsI-00160-00031560-00031846 or even wiped off the map it wouldn't pFTwLriBlsI-00161-00031847-00032055 have a significant impact on players pFTwLriBlsI-00162-00032056-00032327 ability to gain or use any ships or pFTwLriBlsI-00163-00032327-00032431 equipment pFTwLriBlsI-00164-00032432-00032658 but it would make for a nice fairly pFTwLriBlsI-00165-00032660-00032807 consequence-free pFTwLriBlsI-00166-00032808-00033111 thyroid kicking post in the game it's pFTwLriBlsI-00167-00033112-00033246 likely power play pFTwLriBlsI-00168-00033247-00033407 is the only area that would see pFTwLriBlsI-00169-00033408-00033615 significant changes as a result of pFTwLriBlsI-00170-00033616-00033735 serious impacts pFTwLriBlsI-00171-00033736-00034023 on the alliance's presence in the galaxy pFTwLriBlsI-00172-00034024-00034190 so do i think the alliance is about to pFTwLriBlsI-00173-00034191-00034239 become pFTwLriBlsI-00174-00034240-00034487 food for the thyroid all young not pFTwLriBlsI-00175-00034488-00034590 necessarily pFTwLriBlsI-00176-00034591-00034767 but the lack of a rep grind in the pFTwLriBlsI-00177-00034768-00035007 alliance does set them apart currently pFTwLriBlsI-00178-00035008-00035079 and now pFTwLriBlsI-00179-00035080-00035327 they have no ship manufacturer of their pFTwLriBlsI-00180-00035328-00035623 own that might demand a future rep grind pFTwLriBlsI-00181-00035624-00035895 at least not yet so what are your pFTwLriBlsI-00182-00035896-00036015 thoughts on all this pFTwLriBlsI-00183-00036016-00036230 is the new mega corporation of lake on pFTwLriBlsI-00184-00036231-00036487 dynamics about to unleash a panther pFTwLriBlsI-00185-00036488-00036646 variant on the galaxy pFTwLriBlsI-00186-00036647-00036846 are the middle of the road habitual pFTwLriBlsI-00187-00036847-00037023 fence sitters in the alliance about to pFTwLriBlsI-00188-00037024-00037246 get a swift injection of catastrophic pFTwLriBlsI-00189-00037247-00037359 xenophobia pFTwLriBlsI-00190-00037360-00037574 and why respect for one's galactic pFTwLriBlsI-00191-00037575-00037783 neighbours is always important pFTwLriBlsI-00192-00037784-00038046 sound off in the comments below that's pFTwLriBlsI-00193-00038047-00038262 it for now thanks very much for watching pFTwLriBlsI-00194-00038263-00038439 we'll be back later this week with more pFTwLriBlsI-00195-00038440-00038567 videos until then pFTwLriBlsI-00196-00038568-00038767 07 commanders follow the greens on the pFTwLriBlsI-00197-00038768-00038967 way out and do keep clear of the toast pFTwLriBlsI-00198-00038968-00039039 rack pFTwLriBlsI-00199-00039040-00039190 we very much look forward to seeing you pFTwLriBlsI-00200-00039191-00040879 next time pFTwLriBlsI-00201-00040880-00042279 [Music] pFTwLriBlsI-00202-00042280-00042488 you pHs3Q4gtXVM-00000-00001416-00002863 make sure pHs3Q4gtXVM-00001-00002864-00003166 a slideshow or whatever document pHs3Q4gtXVM-00002-00003167-00003454 you can record your screen and your pHs3Q4gtXVM-00003-00003455-00003527 webcam pHs3Q4gtXVM-00004-00003528-00003870 and then narrate this now this is how to pHs3Q4gtXVM-00005-00003871-00003903 do pHs3Q4gtXVM-00006-00003904-00005591 a voiceover pHs3Q4gtXVM-00007-00005592-00006022 gives you a nice countdown pHs3Q4gtXVM-00008-00006023-00006175 check check check and then the film pHs3Q4gtXVM-00009-00006176-00006375 starts playing where you last had the pHs3Q4gtXVM-00010-00006376-00006478 marker left off pHs3Q4gtXVM-00011-00006479-00006655 so i don't need any audio at this scene pHs3Q4gtXVM-00012-00006656-00006783 because it's a parade and i'm not going pHs3Q4gtXVM-00013-00006784-00006895 to do a bunch of pHs3Q4gtXVM-00014-00006895-00008483 murmur sounds for this people pHs3Q4gtXVM-00015-00008484-00008607 audio pHs3Q4gtXVM-00016-00008608-00009014 right here i'm gonna watch it pHs3Q4gtXVM-00017-00009015-00009806 you can even do this right there pHs3Q4gtXVM-00018-00009807-00011246 all right pHs3Q4gtXVM-00019-00011247-00013791 microphone as well pHs3Q4gtXVM-00020-00013791-00014007 we're gonna get so busted for cutting pHs3Q4gtXVM-00021-00014008-00014103 we're never gonna call pHs3Q4gtXVM-00022-00014104-00014311 for cutting all right so i would redo pHs3Q4gtXVM-00023-00014312-00014607 that wasn't the best pHs3Q4gtXVM-00024-00014608-00014719 there's no way you're going to be able pHs3Q4gtXVM-00025-00014719-00014879 to well i'm not going to say no way but pHs3Q4gtXVM-00026-00014880-00015047 don't worry about your grade for sinking pHs3Q4gtXVM-00027-00015047-00015215 sound pHs3Q4gtXVM-00028-00015216-00015415 all right so where did that sound oh so pHs3Q4gtXVM-00029-00015416-00015543 it did it created its own little pHs3Q4gtXVM-00030-00015544-00016047 voiceover track pHs3Q4gtXVM-00031-00016047-00016527 so that's fine pHs3Q4gtXVM-00032-00016528-00016883 i want to move mine back up to the pHs3Q4gtXVM-00033-00016884-00016999 dialogue pHs3Q4gtXVM-00034-00017000-00017486 that's where i'm going to keep mine um pHs3Q4gtXVM-00035-00017487-00017703 so it's up to you you can leave it on pHs3Q4gtXVM-00036-00017704-00017814 the voiceover track pHs3Q4gtXVM-00037-00017815-00017935 don't worry remember how i talked about pHs3Q4gtXVM-00038-00017936-00018143 the layout i want the layout to be pHs3Q4gtXVM-00039-00018144-00018199 dialogue pHs3Q4gtXVM-00040-00018200-00018407 sound effects music at the bottom but if pHs3Q4gtXVM-00041-00018408-00018614 your dialogue ends up being down here pHs3Q4gtXVM-00042-00018615-00018919 because it's i'm not taking points off pHs3Q4gtXVM-00043-00018920-00018991 for your layout pHs3Q4gtXVM-00044-00018992-00019239 okay unless it's totally crazy and you pHs3Q4gtXVM-00045-00019240-00019375 have three different music tracks pHs3Q4gtXVM-00046-00019376-00019463 scattered pHs3Q4gtXVM-00047-00019464-00019663 all right um if you have any questions pHs3Q4gtXVM-00048-00019664-00019871 on that just pHs3Q4gtXVM-00049-00019872-00020175 ask um pHs3Q4gtXVM-00050-00020176-00020375 so that's it so i would redo that again pHs3Q4gtXVM-00051-00020376-00020519 and if you look at the pHs3Q4gtXVM-00052-00020520-00020663 you know the rubric like don't worry pHs3Q4gtXVM-00053-00020664-00020830 about thinking their sound pHs3Q4gtXVM-00054-00020831-00020983 you just have to i just want you to pHs3Q4gtXVM-00055-00020984-00021191 record so you know what adr is and put a pHs3Q4gtXVM-00056-00021192-00021286 voice in pHs3Q4gtXVM-00057-00021287-00021614 okay okay and um if pHs3Q4gtXVM-00058-00021615-00021791 you have time none of the videos should pHs3Q4gtXVM-00059-00021792-00021950 have lots of uh pHs3Q4gtXVM-00060-00021951-00022255 spoken words okay like the uh pHs3Q4gtXVM-00061-00022256-00022511 science fiction really only has like pHs3Q4gtXVM-00062-00022512-00022647 when the guy's leaning against a brick pHs3Q4gtXVM-00063-00022648-00022807 wall the young kid asked him a question pHs3Q4gtXVM-00064-00022808-00022935 like are you a right bray i think he pHs3Q4gtXVM-00065-00022936-00023014 says pHs3Q4gtXVM-00066-00023015-00023271 um that's it and landed a loss there's pHs3Q4gtXVM-00067-00023272-00023391 maybe a little more pHs3Q4gtXVM-00068-00023392-00023614 especially at the right at the beginning pHs3Q4gtXVM-00069-00023615-00023830 um but i'm just looking pHs3Q4gtXVM-00070-00023831-00023942 you know basically i want to see that pHs3Q4gtXVM-00071-00023943-00024175 you have like at least six or so spoken pHs3Q4gtXVM-00072-00024176-00024247 words 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pHs3Q4gtXVM-00088-00026880-00027014 later on in the scene there's an actor pHs3Q4gtXVM-00089-00027016-00027207 in his mouth moves and no voices pHs3Q4gtXVM-00090-00027208-00027383 that's fine you still get 100 because pHs3Q4gtXVM-00091-00027383-00027511 you did it and you proved you could do pHs3Q4gtXVM-00092-00027512-00027607 it to me pHs3Q4gtXVM-00093-00027608-00027895 okay so say let's say minimum i usually pHs3Q4gtXVM-00094-00027895-00027927 do pHs3Q4gtXVM-00095-00027927-00028246 six spoken words okay so that pHs3Q4gtXVM-00096-00028247-00028470 should usually on on world of worlds you pHs3Q4gtXVM-00097-00028472-00028551 don't have to do it pHs3Q4gtXVM-00098-00028552-00028743 only really one time maybe a girl pHs3Q4gtXVM-00099-00028744-00028958 screaming it could be a second time pHs3Q4gtXVM-00100-00028960-00029270 um and then ferris buell's day off you pHs3Q4gtXVM-00101-00029272-00029439 can definitely accomplish the six spoken pHs3Q4gtXVM-00102-00029439-00029590 words i mean i would have like pHs3Q4gtXVM-00103-00029591-00029814 two right there going back and forth and pHs3Q4gtXVM-00104-00029816-00029999 then the ladies screaming pHs3Q4gtXVM-00105-00030000-00030190 you know i don't know how many words i pHs3Q4gtXVM-00106-00030191-00030758 said but pHs3Q4gtXVM-00107-00030760-00031958 and you can slide this down pHs3Q4gtXVM-00108-00031960-00033683 you're just watching pHs3Q4gtXVM-00109-00033684-00034258 ah pHs3Q4gtXVM-00110-00034259-00034767 [Music] pHs3Q4gtXVM-00111-00034768-00035630 we're going to get so busted for cutting pHs3Q4gtXVM-00112-00035631-00035823 just do the best you can we're gonna get pHs3Q4gtXVM-00113-00035824-00035990 so busted for cutting pHs3Q4gtXVM-00114-00035991-00036246 we're never gonna call for cutting there pHs3Q4gtXVM-00115-00036247-00036455 you go that's good enough for me pHs3Q4gtXVM-00116-00036456-00036943 it's not gonna pHs3Q4gtXVM-00117-00036944-00037447 all right good luck guys pHB3JKstky8-00000-00000053-00000296 the retroflex 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lungs diaphragm the release of pHB3JKstky8-00015-00004205-00004439 the forward closure produces the click pHB3JKstky8-00016-00004440-00004715 sound voiced and nasal clicks have a pHB3JKstky8-00017-00004716-00004913 simultaneous pulmonic aggressive pHB3JKstky8-00018-00004914-00005231 airstream it's place of articulation as pHB3JKstky8-00019-00005232-00005462 retroflex which prototypically means it pHB3JKstky8-00020-00005463-00005672 is articulated sub epical with the tip pHB3JKstky8-00021-00005673-00005816 of the tongue curled up but more pHB3JKstky8-00022-00005817-00005990 generally it means that it is post pHB3JKstky8-00023-00005991-00006260 alveolar without being palatalized that pHB3JKstky8-00024-00006261-00006493 is besides the prototypical sub epical pHB3JKstky8-00025-00006494-00006692 articulation the tongue contact can be pHB3JKstky8-00026-00006693-00007009 apical pointed or laminal flat its pHB3JKstky8-00027-00007011-00007195 phonation is voiced which means the 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going to produce off your farm you know pLm57NIZR8k-00071-00015708-00015863 you need to think about your potassium pLm57NIZR8k-00072-00015863-00016108 sulfur and other you know maybe some pLm57NIZR8k-00073-00016109-00016325 micronutrients the best way to assess pLm57NIZR8k-00074-00016326-00016558 that is do some well-timed and well pLm57NIZR8k-00075-00016559-00016835 placed soil tests and you know talk to pLm57NIZR8k-00076-00016836-00017057 your local reseller about taking those pLm57NIZR8k-00077-00017058-00017230 to make sure you get the value out of pLm57NIZR8k-00078-00017231-00017569 the system pLm57NIZR8k-00079-00017570-00017918 thank you pLPy2xLy2kE-00000-00000057-00000413 the IIHF world ranking is a ranking of pLPy2xLy2kE-00001-00000415-00000612 the performance of the national ice pLPy2xLy2kE-00002-00000613-00000858 hockey teams of member countries of the pLPy2xLy2kE-00003-00000859-00001238 International Ice Hockey Federation IIHF pLPy2xLy2kE-00004-00001239-00001562 it is based on a formula giving points pLPy2xLy2kE-00005-00001563-00001841 for each team's placings at IIHF pLPy2xLy2kE-00006-00001842-00002081 sanctioned tournaments over the previous pLPy2xLy2kE-00007-00002082-00002397 four years the ranking is used to pLPy2xLy2kE-00008-00002398-00002637 determine seedings and qualification pLPy2xLy2kE-00009-00002638-00002977 requirements for future IIHF tournaments pLPy2xLy2kE-00010-00002978-00003327 the current leader in rankings as Canada pLPy2xLy2kE-00011-00003328-00003590 in men's play and the United States in pLPy2xLy2kE-00012-00003592-00004208 women's play pLPy2xLy2kE-00013-00004209-00004754 topic description pLPy2xLy2kE-00014-00004755-00005057 the system was approved at the IIHF pLPy2xLy2kE-00015-00005058-00005476 Congress of September 2003 according to pLPy2xLy2kE-00016-00005477-00005840 IIHF president Rene Fazal the system was pLPy2xLy2kE-00017-00005841-00006089 designed to be simple to understand and pLPy2xLy2kE-00018-00006090-00006368 reflect the long-term quality of all pLPy2xLy2kE-00019-00006369-00006620 national hockey programs and their pLPy2xLy2kE-00020-00006620-00007004 commitment to international hockey the pLPy2xLy2kE-00021-00007005-00007244 ranking is used to determine the seating pLPy2xLy2kE-00022-00007245-00007410 of the teams for the next World pLPy2xLy2kE-00023-00007411-00007645 Championship and to select the teams pLPy2xLy2kE-00024-00007647-00007916 which can participate in Winter Olympics pLPy2xLy2kE-00025-00007917-00008141 without playing in the qualifying round pLPy2xLy2kE-00026-00008142-00008567 for example for the 2014 Winter Olympics pLPy2xLy2kE-00027-00008568-00008804 the first nine teams of the men's world pLPy2xLy2kE-00028-00008805-00009046 ranking and the first six of the women's pLPy2xLy2kE-00029-00009047-00009376 world ranking were pre qualified pLPy2xLy2kE-00030-00009377-00009602 qualification for the men's tournament pLPy2xLy2kE-00031-00009603-00009869 at the 2014 Winter Olympics was pLPy2xLy2kE-00032-00009870-00010235 structured around the 2012 ranking 12 pLPy2xLy2kE-00033-00010236-00010549 spots were made available for teams the pLPy2xLy2kE-00034-00010550-00010796 top nine teams in the world ranking pLPy2xLy2kE-00035-00010797-00011088 after the 2012 Men's World Ice Hockey pLPy2xLy2kE-00036-00011089-00011374 Championships received automatic berths pLPy2xLy2kE-00037-00011375-00011821 into the ice hockey event all IIHF teams pLPy2xLy2kE-00038-00011822-00012085 had an opportunity to qualify for the pLPy2xLy2kE-00039-00012086-00012377 event teams that wish to participate pLPy2xLy2kE-00040-00012378-00012701 ranked below 29th played a preliminary pLPy2xLy2kE-00041-00012702-00013091 qualification in September 2012 the pLPy2xLy2kE-00042-00013091-00013294 winner of the preliminary and teams pLPy2xLy2kE-00043-00013295-00013712 ranked 19 to 29 th were divided in three pLPy2xLy2kE-00044-00013713-00013925 groups to play in the pre qualification pLPy2xLy2kE-00045-00013926-00014327 round in November 2012 the winner of pLPy2xLy2kE-00046-00014328-00014594 each pre qualification group and teams pLPy2xLy2kE-00047-00014594-00014903 ranked 10 to 18 were divided in three pLPy2xLy2kE-00048-00014904-00015082 groups to play in the final pLPy2xLy2kE-00049-00015083-00015403 qualification in February 2013 the pLPy2xLy2kE-00050-00015404-00015697 winner of each group then joined the pLPy2xLy2kE-00051-00015699-00015977 nine top ranked teams in the Olympics in pLPy2xLy2kE-00052-00015978-00016388 2014 the women's tournament uses a pLPy2xLy2kE-00053-00016389-00016742 similar qualification format the top six pLPy2xLy2kE-00054-00016743-00017066 teams in the IIHF women's world ranking pLPy2xLy2kE-00055-00017067-00017375 after the 2012 IIHF Women's World pLPy2xLy2kE-00056-00017376-00017660 Championship received automatic berths pLPy2xLy2kE-00057-00017661-00018026 into the ice hockey event lower ranked pLPy2xLy2kE-00058-00018027-00018130 teams had an pLPy2xLy2kE-00059-00018131-00018358 opportunity to qualify for the event pLPy2xLy2kE-00060-00018359-00018736 teams ranked 19th and below were divided pLPy2xLy2kE-00061-00018737-00018961 into two groups where they played in a pLPy2xLy2kE-00062-00018962-00019219 preliminary qualification round in the pLPy2xLy2kE-00063-00019220-00019600 autumn of 2012 the two winners and teams pLPy2xLy2kE-00064-00019601-00019945 ranked 13 to 18 were divided into two pLPy2xLy2kE-00065-00019946-00020144 groups where they played in the pre pLPy2xLy2kE-00066-00020145-00020484 qualification round in November 2012 the pLPy2xLy2kE-00067-00020485-00020737 two group winners from the round pLPy2xLy2kE-00068-00020738-00020947 advanced to the final qualification pLPy2xLy2kE-00069-00020948-00021259 round where the teams ranked 7th through pLPy2xLy2kE-00070-00021260-00021866 12th joined them pLPy2xLy2kE-00071-00021867-00022365 topic formula pLPy2xLy2kE-00072-00022366-00022656 the world ranking is based on the final pLPy2xLy2kE-00073-00022657-00022881 positions of the last four Ice Hockey pLPy2xLy2kE-00074-00022882-00023187 World Championships and last Olympic ice pLPy2xLy2kE-00075-00023188-00023499 hockey tournament points are assigned pLPy2xLy2kE-00076-00023500-00023766 according to a team's final placement in pLPy2xLy2kE-00077-00023767-00024006 the world championship or the Olympic pLPy2xLy2kE-00078-00024007-00024336 tournament the world champion receives pLPy2xLy2kE-00079-00024337-00024651 1200 points and then a 20-point interval pLPy2xLy2kE-00080-00024652-00025068 is used between teams however a 40 point pLPy2xLy2kE-00081-00025069-00025359 interval is used between gold and silver pLPy2xLy2kE-00082-00025360-00025656 silver and bronze fourth and fifth and pLPy2xLy2kE-00083-00025657-00026010 eighth and ninth this is used as a bonus pLPy2xLy2kE-00084-00026011-00026163 for the teams who reach the pLPy2xLy2kE-00085-00026164-00026463 quarterfinals the semifinals the final pLPy2xLy2kE-00086-00026464-00026789 and for winning the gold medal points pLPy2xLy2kE-00087-00026791-00027018 awarded in the current year are valued pLPy2xLy2kE-00088-00027019-00027339 at the full amount points award in the pLPy2xLy2kE-00089-00027339-00027705 prior years declined linearly by 25% pLPy2xLy2kE-00090-00027706-00027891 until the fifth year when they are pLPy2xLy2kE-00091-00027892-00028236 dropped from the calculation for example pLPy2xLy2kE-00092-00028237-00028545 if after the 2019 championship but team pLPy2xLy2kE-00093-00028545-00028788 had won the gold medal in the last four pLPy2xLy2kE-00094-00028789-00029019 championships and the last Olympic pLPy2xLy2kE-00095-00029020-00029806 tournament their score would be 3,900 pLPy2xLy2kE-00096-00029807-00030381 topic men's rankings pLPy2xLy2kE-00097-00030382-00030711 the men's 2019 ranking is based on the pLPy2xLy2kE-00098-00030712-00030942 performance at the World Championships pLPy2xLy2kE-00099-00030943-00031518 of 2019 2018 2017 and 2016 and at the pLPy2xLy2kE-00100-00031519-00031820 2018 Olympic ice hockey tournament in pLPy2xLy2kE-00101-00031822-00032102 Pyeongchang South Korea for the 2018 pLPy2xLy2kE-00102-00032104-00032355 Winter Olympics Russia's Olympic pLPy2xLy2kE-00103-00032356-00032577 Committee and many of its athletes were pLPy2xLy2kE-00104-00032577-00032946 banned for illegal doping the IIHF pLPy2xLy2kE-00105-00032947-00033225 opposed an outright ban on all Russian pLPy2xLy2kE-00106-00033226-00033516 players concerned that the KHL would pLPy2xLy2kE-00107-00033517-00033759 disallow its players from participating pLPy2xLy2kE-00108-00033760-00034061 in the tournament as the NHL had done pLPy2xLy2kE-00109-00034062-00034356 the ice hockey team from the Russian pLPy2xLy2kE-00110-00034357-00034569 Hockey Federation played under the pLPy2xLy2kE-00111-00034570-00034752 banner of the International Olympic pLPy2xLy2kE-00112-00034753-00035079 Committee as Olympic athletes from pLPy2xLy2kE-00113-00035080-00035373 Russia along with other Russian athletes pLPy2xLy2kE-00114-00035374-00035607 not banned for doping the following pLPy2xLy2kE-00115-00035608-00035835 table lists the previous ranking pLPy2xLy2kE-00116-00035836-00036105 following the 2018 Men's World Ice pLPy2xLy2kE-00117-00036106-00036372 Hockey Championships and the ranking in pLPy2xLy2kE-00118-00036373-00036669 progress for the 2019 Men's World Ice pLPy2xLy2kE-00119-00036670-00036875 Hockey Championships pLPy2xLy2kE-00120-00036876-00037200 scores in italics represent minimum pLPy2xLy2kE-00121-00037201-00037401 possible scores for unfinished pLPy2xLy2kE-00122-00037402-00037698 tournaments all tournaments points have pLPy2xLy2kE-00123-00037699-00037926 their full value displayed while the pLPy2xLy2kE-00124-00037927-00038145 ranking is calculated by adding the pLPy2xLy2kE-00125-00038146-00038364 current year's tournament points to the pLPy2xLy2kE-00126-00038365-00038553 depreciated previous three years pLPy2xLy2kE-00127-00038554-00038919 tournament points as explained above the pLPy2xLy2kE-00128-00038920-00039192 depreciated percentages are shown in the pLPy2xLy2kE-00129-00039193-00039408 column headings first for the current pLPy2xLy2kE-00130-00039409-00039821 total then for the new total the total pLPy2xLy2kE-00131-00039822-00040062 columns are the sums of the current pLPy2xLy2kE-00132-00040063-00040290 tournament points and the depreciated pLPy2xLy2kE-00133-00040291-00040713 values for past tournaments the plus or pLPy2xLy2kE-00134-00040714-00041052 minus columns indicate the increase or pLPy2xLy2kE-00135-00041053-00041259 decrease in ranking since the last pLPy2xLy2kE-00136-00041260-00041628 tournament a dash in a tournament column pLPy2xLy2kE-00137-00041629-00041817 indicates that the country did not pLPy2xLy2kE-00138-00041818-00042764 participate source IIHF pLPy2xLy2kE-00139-00042765-00043346 topic women's rankings pLPy2xLy2kE-00140-00043347-00043691 the woman's 2019 ranking is based on the pLPy2xLy2kE-00141-00043692-00043925 performance at the World Championships pLPy2xLy2kE-00142-00043926-00044501 of 2019 2018 2017 and 2016 and at the pLPy2xLy2kE-00143-00044502-00044804 2018 Olympic ice hockey tournament in pLPy2xLy2kE-00144-00044805-00045086 Pyeongchang South Korea for the 2018 pLPy2xLy2kE-00145-00045087-00045338 Winter Olympics Russia's Olympic pLPy2xLy2kE-00146-00045339-00045566 Committee and many of its athletes were pLPy2xLy2kE-00147-00045567-00045817 banned due to systemic illegal doping pLPy2xLy2kE-00148-00045818-00046238 the IIHF opposed an outright ban on all pLPy2xLy2kE-00149-00046239-00046493 Russian players and the ice hockey team pLPy2xLy2kE-00150-00046494-00046645 from the Russian Hockey Federation pLPy2xLy2kE-00151-00046646-00046850 played under the banner of the pLPy2xLy2kE-00152-00046851-00047080 International Olympic Committee as pLPy2xLy2kE-00153-00047081-00047465 Olympic athletes from Russia along with pLPy2xLy2kE-00154-00047466-00047696 other Russian athletes not banned for pLPy2xLy2kE-00155-00047697-00048056 doping the following table lists the pLPy2xLy2kE-00156-00048057-00048293 previous ranking following the 2018 pLPy2xLy2kE-00157-00048294-00048602 women's ice hockey world championships pLPy2xLy2kE-00158-00048603-00048893 and the ranking in progress for the 2019 pLPy2xLy2kE-00159-00048894-00049222 women's ice hockey world championships pLPy2xLy2kE-00160-00049223-00049550 scores in italics represent minimum pLPy2xLy2kE-00161-00049551-00049751 possible scores for unfinished pLPy2xLy2kE-00162-00049752-00050048 tournaments all tournaments points have pLPy2xLy2kE-00163-00050049-00050273 their full value displayed while the pLPy2xLy2kE-00164-00050274-00050495 ranking is calculated by adding the pLPy2xLy2kE-00165-00050496-00050711 current year's tournament points to the pLPy2xLy2kE-00166-00050712-00050903 depreciated previous three years pLPy2xLy2kE-00167-00050904-00051269 tournament points as explained above the pLPy2xLy2kE-00168-00051270-00051541 depreciated percentages are shown in the pLPy2xLy2kE-00169-00051542-00051754 column headings first for the current pLPy2xLy2kE-00170-00051755-00052170 total then for the new total the total pLPy2xLy2kE-00171-00052171-00052412 columns are the sums of the current pLPy2xLy2kE-00172-00052413-00052640 tournament points and the depreciated pLPy2xLy2kE-00173-00052641-00053060 values for past tournaments the plus or pLPy2xLy2kE-00174-00053061-00053399 minus columns indicate the increase or pLPy2xLy2kE-00175-00053400-00053609 decrease in rankings since the last pLPy2xLy2kE-00176-00053610-00053978 tournament a dash in a tournament column pLPy2xLy2kE-00177-00053979-00054166 indicates that the country did not pLPy2xLy2kE-00178-00054167-00055115 participate source IIHF pLPy2xLy2kE-00179-00055116-00055669 topic see also pLPy2xLy2kE-00180-00055670-00056161 list of IIHF World Rankings pMeJ8-yfX80-00000-00000000-00000031 [Music] pMeJ8-yfX80-00001-00000032-00000262 from the cube studios in palo alto in pMeJ8-yfX80-00002-00000263-00000327 boston pMeJ8-yfX80-00003-00000328-00000511 bringing you data-driven insights from pMeJ8-yfX80-00004-00000512-00000711 the cube and etr pMeJ8-yfX80-00005-00000712-00000911 this is breaking analysis with dave pMeJ8-yfX80-00006-00000911-00001103 vellante pMeJ8-yfX80-00007-00001104-00001415 as we reported in our last episode pMeJ8-yfX80-00008-00001416-00001639 tech spending overall continues to be pMeJ8-yfX80-00009-00001639-00001775 significantly muted pMeJ8-yfX80-00010-00001776-00002063 relative to 2019. now our forecast pMeJ8-yfX80-00011-00002064-00002167 continues to project pMeJ8-yfX80-00012-00002168-00002399 a four to five percent decline in 2020 pMeJ8-yfX80-00013-00002400-00002487 spending pMeJ8-yfX80-00014-00002488-00002791 and a tepid two percent increase in 2021 pMeJ8-yfX80-00015-00002792-00002902 this is based pMeJ8-yfX80-00016-00002903-00003222 on the latest data from etr surveys of pMeJ8-yfX80-00017-00003223-00003479 cios and other i.t buyers nonetheless pMeJ8-yfX80-00018-00003479-00003790 there continues to be some sectors and pMeJ8-yfX80-00019-00003792-00003951 vendor bright spots pMeJ8-yfX80-00020-00003952-00004191 in what is generally an overall pMeJ8-yfX80-00021-00004192-00004295 challenging market pMeJ8-yfX80-00022-00004296-00004463 hello everyone and welcome to this pMeJ8-yfX80-00023-00004464-00004663 week's wikibon cube insights powered pMeJ8-yfX80-00024-00004664-00004886 by etr my name is dave vellante and in pMeJ8-yfX80-00025-00004887-00005006 this breaking analysis pMeJ8-yfX80-00026-00005007-00005270 we welcome back eric bradley from etr to pMeJ8-yfX80-00027-00005271-00005543 provide added color from my solo flight pMeJ8-yfX80-00028-00005544-00005783 from last time eric always a pleasure to pMeJ8-yfX80-00029-00005784-00005918 see you thanks so much for coming back pMeJ8-yfX80-00030-00005919-00006022 in the cube pMeJ8-yfX80-00031-00006023-00006206 i always enjoy it happy friday dave pMeJ8-yfX80-00032-00006207-00006391 we're almost through pMeJ8-yfX80-00033-00006392-00006670 happy friday they just blend together pMeJ8-yfX80-00034-00006672-00006734 guys pMeJ8-yfX80-00035-00006736-00006934 if you would bring up the first slide i pMeJ8-yfX80-00036-00006936-00007103 just want to summarize the situation pMeJ8-yfX80-00037-00007104-00007310 this is from etr's pMeJ8-yfX80-00038-00007311-00007542 latest findings i just extracted some pMeJ8-yfX80-00039-00007543-00007614 and i want to pMeJ8-yfX80-00040-00007615-00007774 i want to go down very quickly eric and pMeJ8-yfX80-00041-00007775-00007959 then get your take as i said technology pMeJ8-yfX80-00042-00007959-00008039 buyers pMeJ8-yfX80-00043-00008040-00008271 expect the downturn you know for 2020 pMeJ8-yfX80-00044-00008272-00008351 but this pMeJ8-yfX80-00045-00008352-00008559 quarter coming into fourth quarter minus pMeJ8-yfX80-00046-00008560-00008799 3.2 percent was the etr's pMeJ8-yfX80-00047-00008800-00008991 forecast that's a year-to-year spending pMeJ8-yfX80-00048-00008992-00009231 decline and a two percent uptick in 2021 pMeJ8-yfX80-00049-00009232-00009310 now pMeJ8-yfX80-00050-00009311-00009542 eric this is slightly what i call it pMeJ8-yfX80-00051-00009543-00009727 slightly less bad pMeJ8-yfX80-00052-00009728-00009935 relative to last quarter so sequentially pMeJ8-yfX80-00053-00009936-00010151 it's less bad pMeJ8-yfX80-00054-00010152-00010303 yeah there's a couple of things to break pMeJ8-yfX80-00055-00010304-00010495 down there so first to begin with pMeJ8-yfX80-00056-00010496-00010606 beginning of the year pMeJ8-yfX80-00057-00010607-00010806 when we launched uh not only our pMeJ8-yfX80-00058-00010807-00010974 spending attention surveys we did a pMeJ8-yfX80-00059-00010975-00011191 simultaneous covet impact survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00060-00011192-00011391 and that's where we caught originally a pMeJ8-yfX80-00061-00011392-00011535 five percent decline pMeJ8-yfX80-00062-00011536-00011942 was expected so although negative uh 3.2 pMeJ8-yfX80-00063-00011943-00012142 is probably the worst quarter over pMeJ8-yfX80-00064-00012143-00012406 quarter um you know lapse we've seen pMeJ8-yfX80-00065-00012407-00012623 uh as a matter of fact it is the the pMeJ8-yfX80-00066-00012624-00012855 lowest drop we've had um pMeJ8-yfX80-00067-00012856-00013191 the area going into 2021 the i.t pMeJ8-yfX80-00068-00013191-00013383 people that we've actually surveyed are pMeJ8-yfX80-00069-00013384-00013558 actually expecting a two percent pMeJ8-yfX80-00070-00013559-00013807 increase so there is a reason for pMeJ8-yfX80-00071-00013808-00013886 optimism pMeJ8-yfX80-00072-00013887-00014071 but if we're looking at the current data pMeJ8-yfX80-00073-00014072-00014230 set there is no doubt pMeJ8-yfX80-00074-00014231-00014463 the picture remains a little bit bleak pMeJ8-yfX80-00075-00014463-00014663 uh we can go into different sectors and pMeJ8-yfX80-00076-00014663-00014855 vendors where they are impacted but pMeJ8-yfX80-00077-00014856-00015038 i think maybe if you're willing i think pMeJ8-yfX80-00078-00015040-00015166 it might be worth just sort of breaking pMeJ8-yfX80-00079-00015168-00015335 down the demographics of this survey a pMeJ8-yfX80-00080-00015336-00015399 little bit pMeJ8-yfX80-00081-00015400-00015663 and how we got to that 3.2 survey over pMeJ8-yfX80-00082-00015663-00015743 survey decline pMeJ8-yfX80-00083-00015744-00015943 yeah and we have a we have a chart on pMeJ8-yfX80-00084-00015944-00016079 that but before we get there i just pMeJ8-yfX80-00085-00016080-00016255 wanted to lay out some of the other key pMeJ8-yfX80-00086-00016256-00016391 points of your analysis pMeJ8-yfX80-00087-00016392-00016567 the other one which is which is we pMeJ8-yfX80-00088-00016568-00016727 talked about this last in the last pMeJ8-yfX80-00089-00016728-00016807 episode pMeJ8-yfX80-00090-00016808-00017158 we call it a slow thawing uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00091-00017159-00017486 higher and i.t project freezes are are pMeJ8-yfX80-00092-00017487-00017743 thawing with fewer companies expecting pMeJ8-yfX80-00093-00017744-00017919 layoffs so that gives us some pMeJ8-yfX80-00094-00017920-00018135 some bright spots but they're definitely pMeJ8-yfX80-00095-00018136-00018391 a widening bifurcation between pMeJ8-yfX80-00096-00018392-00018622 vendors gaining share and those who are pMeJ8-yfX80-00097-00018623-00018775 donating share pMeJ8-yfX80-00098-00018776-00019022 and then you know again relative to last pMeJ8-yfX80-00099-00019023-00019199 quarter survey we're seeing pMeJ8-yfX80-00100-00019200-00019471 uh government and education and fortune pMeJ8-yfX80-00101-00019472-00019599 100 pMeJ8-yfX80-00102-00019600-00019791 you guys are showing the deepest cuts pMeJ8-yfX80-00103-00019792-00020030 from the last survey whereas i.t telco pMeJ8-yfX80-00104-00020031-00020279 retail and retail consumer are showing a pMeJ8-yfX80-00105-00020280-00020358 little bit pMeJ8-yfX80-00106-00020359-00020647 uh more stability and then of course you pMeJ8-yfX80-00107-00020648-00020775 talked about the work from home which pMeJ8-yfX80-00108-00020776-00020911 we've we've covered pMeJ8-yfX80-00109-00020912-00021255 doubling uh from pre-pandemic um pMeJ8-yfX80-00110-00021256-00021455 pretty interesting findings from your pMeJ8-yfX80-00111-00021456-00021591 covid survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00112-00021592-00021758 yeah it's a fantastic and this is the pMeJ8-yfX80-00113-00021759-00021919 fourth iteration of this survey that pMeJ8-yfX80-00114-00021920-00022055 we've done now so we've been able to pMeJ8-yfX80-00115-00022056-00022207 track it you know very quickly launched pMeJ8-yfX80-00116-00022208-00022343 it in the field when we realized the pMeJ8-yfX80-00117-00022344-00022399 true pMeJ8-yfX80-00118-00022400-00022550 impact of what was happening in early pMeJ8-yfX80-00119-00022551-00022727 march this is our fourth version and pMeJ8-yfX80-00120-00022728-00022927 we've been able to track it overall pMeJ8-yfX80-00121-00022928-00023127 um yes without a doubt government pMeJ8-yfX80-00122-00023128-00023286 education are being the pMeJ8-yfX80-00123-00023287-00023535 biggest impact the biggest declines pMeJ8-yfX80-00124-00023536-00023647 without a doubt pMeJ8-yfX80-00125-00023648-00023839 now clearly the caveat to that is if pMeJ8-yfX80-00126-00023840-00024030 there's any sort of government policy pMeJ8-yfX80-00127-00024031-00024191 maybe you know those could actually help pMeJ8-yfX80-00128-00024192-00024358 a little bit but for right now those are pMeJ8-yfX80-00129-00024359-00024478 getting hit the most pMeJ8-yfX80-00130-00024479-00024742 retail consumer is faring much much pMeJ8-yfX80-00131-00024743-00024799 better pMeJ8-yfX80-00132-00024800-00025007 and the it companies as generally we're pMeJ8-yfX80-00133-00025008-00025167 seeing in the market as well pMeJ8-yfX80-00134-00025168-00025342 they can you know are still spending pMeJ8-yfX80-00135-00025343-00025494 money and still moving but pMeJ8-yfX80-00136-00025495-00025750 the reason for optimism actually comes pMeJ8-yfX80-00137-00025751-00026022 from multiple metrics and i will say pMeJ8-yfX80-00138-00026023-00026231 we have caught a bottom on all of the pMeJ8-yfX80-00139-00026232-00026407 negative metrics at this point now who pMeJ8-yfX80-00140-00026408-00026543 knows what will happen the next time we pMeJ8-yfX80-00141-00026544-00026614 do it right pMeJ8-yfX80-00142-00026616-00026839 the world is always fluid but based on pMeJ8-yfX80-00143-00026839-00026999 this this is our fourth iteration of pMeJ8-yfX80-00144-00027000-00027087 this survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00145-00027088-00027390 whether it be i.t projects being frozen pMeJ8-yfX80-00146-00027391-00027702 whether it be layoffs whether it be pMeJ8-yfX80-00147-00027704-00027999 just overall expected budget increase pMeJ8-yfX80-00148-00028000-00028143 everything looks like it is already pMeJ8-yfX80-00149-00028144-00028318 bottomed and there is some optimism pMeJ8-yfX80-00150-00028319-00028502 going into 2021 pMeJ8-yfX80-00151-00028504-00028718 of course the january survey that we pMeJ8-yfX80-00152-00028719-00028902 launched will be able to corroborate pMeJ8-yfX80-00153-00028904-00028999 that hopefully pMeJ8-yfX80-00154-00029000-00029183 and we'll have much more granularity pMeJ8-yfX80-00155-00029183-00029302 into those findings pMeJ8-yfX80-00156-00029304-00029583 at that time great okay now let's get pMeJ8-yfX80-00157-00029583-00029687 into the demographics that you pMeJ8-yfX80-00158-00029688-00029846 referenced before this this next slide pMeJ8-yfX80-00159-00029847-00029951 shows those a pMeJ8-yfX80-00160-00029952-00030087 record number of respondents eric pMeJ8-yfX80-00161-00030088-00030262 congratulations on that and and so take pMeJ8-yfX80-00162-00030263-00030383 us through the makeup pMeJ8-yfX80-00163-00030383-00030535 of the survey respondents guys if you pMeJ8-yfX80-00164-00030536-00030862 bring up this next slide pMeJ8-yfX80-00165-00030863-00031079 yes so for the october 20 what we're pMeJ8-yfX80-00166-00031080-00031287 really doing here is we're asking the it pMeJ8-yfX80-00167-00031288-00031390 decision makers to pMeJ8-yfX80-00168-00031391-00031687 update the uh survey responses they gave pMeJ8-yfX80-00169-00031688-00031727 us pMeJ8-yfX80-00170-00031727-00031958 in july we're basically saying okay you pMeJ8-yfX80-00171-00031960-00032087 thought you were going to spend this in pMeJ8-yfX80-00172-00032088-00032199 the back half pMeJ8-yfX80-00173-00032200-00032414 what did you actually do and in this pMeJ8-yfX80-00174-00032416-00032627 particular survey we had 1 pMeJ8-yfX80-00175-00032627-00032935 438 qualified i.t decision makers pMeJ8-yfX80-00176-00032936-00033207 get involved that's 60 of the fortune pMeJ8-yfX80-00177-00033208-00033367 100 is represented pMeJ8-yfX80-00178-00033368-00033639 almost a quarter of the global 1000 uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00179-00033640-00033799 and we had about 35 pMeJ8-yfX80-00180-00033800-00033990 of the fortune 500. the industry pMeJ8-yfX80-00181-00033991-00034143 breakdown is all across the board pMeJ8-yfX80-00182-00034144-00034318 whether it's financials insurance pMeJ8-yfX80-00183-00034319-00034518 i.t telco we have industrials pMeJ8-yfX80-00184-00034519-00034623 manufacturing pMeJ8-yfX80-00185-00034624-00034783 we have energy utilities we have pMeJ8-yfX80-00186-00034784-00035007 government so it's really a great cross pMeJ8-yfX80-00187-00035008-00035102 section pMeJ8-yfX80-00188-00035103-00035295 now geographically that tends to be pMeJ8-yfX80-00189-00035296-00035502 about 80 percent north america we are pMeJ8-yfX80-00190-00035503-00035567 heavily pMeJ8-yfX80-00191-00035568-00035823 uh concentrated in that area but we also pMeJ8-yfX80-00192-00035824-00035871 have pMeJ8-yfX80-00193-00035872-00036239 12 emea uh 5 apac and the remainder is pMeJ8-yfX80-00194-00036240-00036343 latin america pMeJ8-yfX80-00195-00036344-00036502 you know if there were any visibility pMeJ8-yfX80-00196-00036503-00036662 concerns at all would probably be in pMeJ8-yfX80-00197-00036663-00036735 china pMeJ8-yfX80-00198-00036736-00036943 it's just not that easy to get you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00199-00036944-00037062 qualified i.t pMeJ8-yfX80-00200-00037063-00037255 decision makers from china to respond to pMeJ8-yfX80-00201-00037256-00037455 us but that's an area we are working on pMeJ8-yfX80-00202-00037456-00037583 going forward but pMeJ8-yfX80-00203-00037584-00037879 overall a huge survey response certainly pMeJ8-yfX80-00204-00037880-00038111 meaningful end and we're very happy with pMeJ8-yfX80-00205-00038112-00038407 the data that we collected this time pMeJ8-yfX80-00206-00038408-00038583 okay thank you for that now i want to go pMeJ8-yfX80-00207-00038584-00038783 into the the next graphic here and i pMeJ8-yfX80-00208-00038784-00038927 want to look at how net score has pMeJ8-yfX80-00209-00038928-00039055 changed over time pMeJ8-yfX80-00210-00039056-00039271 and and i want to remind people that so pMeJ8-yfX80-00211-00039272-00039367 this this slide pMeJ8-yfX80-00212-00039368-00039702 basically goes back to 2016 and pMeJ8-yfX80-00213-00039703-00039943 and shows you know some ebbs and flows pMeJ8-yfX80-00214-00039944-00040102 and then some you know real strength pMeJ8-yfX80-00215-00040103-00040183 coming in pMeJ8-yfX80-00216-00040184-00040495 you know cc 17 and 18 and and pMeJ8-yfX80-00217-00040496-00040855 and you may forget going into to q419 pMeJ8-yfX80-00218-00040856-00041151 and into 2020 the etr data was telling pMeJ8-yfX80-00219-00041152-00041295 us hey things are pMeJ8-yfX80-00220-00041296-00041471 going to slow down a little bit it's pMeJ8-yfX80-00221-00041472-00041655 hard to remember that and and so pMeJ8-yfX80-00222-00041656-00041974 and the thinking back then was okay last pMeJ8-yfX80-00223-00041975-00042127 couple of years people have pMeJ8-yfX80-00224-00042128-00042374 spent a lot on digital transformation pMeJ8-yfX80-00225-00042375-00042607 and it was a lot of experimentation pMeJ8-yfX80-00226-00042608-00042774 they were hanging on to their legacy pMeJ8-yfX80-00227-00042775-00042918 stuff and you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00228-00042919-00043079 with all that technical debt and they pMeJ8-yfX80-00229-00043080-00043302 were experimenting with a lot of the new pMeJ8-yfX80-00230-00043303-00043551 technologies and what we saw coming into pMeJ8-yfX80-00231-00043552-00043623 q4 pMeJ8-yfX80-00232-00043624-00043974 2019 was people beginning to unplug pMeJ8-yfX80-00233-00043975-00044135 some of that making bets basically pMeJ8-yfX80-00234-00044136-00044318 unplugging some of the legacy stuff oh pMeJ8-yfX80-00235-00044319-00044430 and by the way pMeJ8-yfX80-00236-00044431-00044646 you know maybe saying hey the new stuff pMeJ8-yfX80-00237-00044647-00044783 that we tried didn't work pMeJ8-yfX80-00238-00044784-00044935 we're going to do less experimentation pMeJ8-yfX80-00239-00044936-00045190 so we saw a somewhat depressed next pMeJ8-yfX80-00240-00045191-00045302 score and you can see that pMeJ8-yfX80-00241-00045303-00045543 in here coming into 2020 and then of pMeJ8-yfX80-00242-00045544-00045646 course covet hit pMeJ8-yfX80-00243-00045647-00045862 and you can see the bottom fell out but pMeJ8-yfX80-00244-00045863-00046079 wow what a drop i mean that says it all pMeJ8-yfX80-00245-00046080-00046215 a lot different than what we're seeing pMeJ8-yfX80-00246-00046216-00046439 in the stock market yeah first of all pMeJ8-yfX80-00247-00046440-00046590 just a great recap on what we caught pMeJ8-yfX80-00248-00046591-00046671 last year pMeJ8-yfX80-00249-00046672-00046862 really well done so at that time there pMeJ8-yfX80-00250-00046863-00046999 was concurrent spending pMeJ8-yfX80-00251-00047000-00047151 there was a lot of proof of concepts pMeJ8-yfX80-00252-00047152-00047367 being done people weren't exactly sure pMeJ8-yfX80-00253-00047368-00047551 how to transition off how fast they were pMeJ8-yfX80-00254-00047552-00047615 going to get pMeJ8-yfX80-00255-00047616-00047767 into the cloud how fast they could make pMeJ8-yfX80-00256-00047768-00047935 that digital transformation and they pMeJ8-yfX80-00257-00047936-00048086 were kicking the tires on everything pMeJ8-yfX80-00258-00048087-00048262 and there was a ton of spend it was the pMeJ8-yfX80-00259-00048263-00048511 golden era of i.t spending at the time pMeJ8-yfX80-00260-00048512-00048671 but we did catch that some of that was pMeJ8-yfX80-00261-00048672-00048895 coming down so uh what we pMeJ8-yfX80-00262-00048896-00049143 see now is obviously that spending was pMeJ8-yfX80-00263-00049144-00049311 going to cool off either way pMeJ8-yfX80-00264-00049312-00049455 but now with the global you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00265-00049456-00049655 pandemic impact hitting what we've pMeJ8-yfX80-00266-00049656-00049695 caught pMeJ8-yfX80-00267-00049696-00049918 of course is the biggest survey over pMeJ8-yfX80-00268-00049919-00050015 survey decline pMeJ8-yfX80-00269-00050016-00050230 3.2 percent was matched at one other pMeJ8-yfX80-00270-00050231-00050335 point in our survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00271-00050336-00050599 history but that was at very elevated pMeJ8-yfX80-00272-00050600-00050679 spendings pMeJ8-yfX80-00273-00050680-00050886 so that drop was not as meaningful when pMeJ8-yfX80-00274-00050887-00051095 we're seeing from a more baseline that pMeJ8-yfX80-00275-00051096-00051199 drop right now pMeJ8-yfX80-00276-00051200-00051470 is extremely seasonal um and extremely pMeJ8-yfX80-00277-00051471-00051614 meaningful my apologies pMeJ8-yfX80-00278-00051615-00051750 now i will i do want to make a quick pMeJ8-yfX80-00279-00051751-00051990 caveat that usually the october survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00280-00051991-00052175 catches some seasonality pMeJ8-yfX80-00281-00052176-00052366 because a lot of people have expected pMeJ8-yfX80-00282-00052367-00052503 spend in the back half pMeJ8-yfX80-00283-00052504-00052742 that doesn't always materialize but make pMeJ8-yfX80-00284-00052744-00052847 no mistake pMeJ8-yfX80-00285-00052848-00053015 this is way beyond our normal pMeJ8-yfX80-00286-00053016-00053279 seasonality this trough is a real pMeJ8-yfX80-00287-00053279-00053582 metric yeah and when i talk to pMeJ8-yfX80-00288-00053583-00053854 buyers and i talk to even salespeople pMeJ8-yfX80-00289-00053855-00053991 for you know the truth pMeJ8-yfX80-00290-00053991-00054126 go talk to sales people if you can get pMeJ8-yfX80-00291-00054127-00054247 the truth out of them which you usually pMeJ8-yfX80-00292-00054248-00054311 can pMeJ8-yfX80-00293-00054312-00054623 um sales and engineering that's really pMeJ8-yfX80-00294-00054624-00054719 we want to know what's happening in pMeJ8-yfX80-00295-00054720-00054919 companies but they will tell you that pMeJ8-yfX80-00296-00054920-00055079 their visibility same with the buyers pMeJ8-yfX80-00297-00055079-00055238 they're saying look i think i'm going to pMeJ8-yfX80-00298-00055239-00055350 spend and i think i'm going to get pMeJ8-yfX80-00299-00055351-00055542 approval on it but the normal buying pMeJ8-yfX80-00300-00055544-00055638 signals pMeJ8-yfX80-00301-00055639-00055791 you kind of have to take with a grain of pMeJ8-yfX80-00302-00055791-00055950 salt because pMeJ8-yfX80-00303-00055951-00056223 it's it the buyers don't know the pMeJ8-yfX80-00304-00056224-00056407 sellers don't really know i mean they pMeJ8-yfX80-00305-00056408-00056591 think they've got reasonable visibility pMeJ8-yfX80-00306-00056591-00056726 but things change pMeJ8-yfX80-00307-00056727-00056903 so fast as we know so you have to be pMeJ8-yfX80-00308-00056904-00057038 really really careful all right let's pMeJ8-yfX80-00309-00057039-00057142 drill in pMeJ8-yfX80-00310-00057144-00057359 to some of the the sectors and that's pMeJ8-yfX80-00311-00057360-00057487 really the next two slides pMeJ8-yfX80-00312-00057488-00057615 guys if you bring up the first of the pMeJ8-yfX80-00313-00057616-00057847 next two so this shows pMeJ8-yfX80-00314-00057848-00058166 the the change from july uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00315-00058167-00058335 to october so the last survey to this pMeJ8-yfX80-00316-00058336-00058471 survey 2020 and the pMeJ8-yfX80-00317-00058472-00058742 the green bars of july yellow bars are pMeJ8-yfX80-00318-00058744-00058815 or pMeJ8-yfX80-00319-00058816-00059047 october and you can see right away jumps pMeJ8-yfX80-00320-00059048-00059254 out at you container orchestration pMeJ8-yfX80-00321-00059255-00059438 and ml and ai and we've got some other pMeJ8-yfX80-00322-00059439-00059647 data on this jump right off the charts pMeJ8-yfX80-00323-00059648-00059719 they're still pMeJ8-yfX80-00324-00059720-00060015 elevated levels uh so that's that's a pMeJ8-yfX80-00325-00060016-00060247 real positive you can see ai actually pMeJ8-yfX80-00326-00060248-00060438 maybe waning a bit and i think that's pMeJ8-yfX80-00327-00060439-00060550 probably eric because pMeJ8-yfX80-00328-00060551-00060694 a lot of it's just you don't even see it pMeJ8-yfX80-00329-00060695-00060894 it's just embedded but but take us pMeJ8-yfX80-00330-00060895-00061103 through this first chart and then we'll pMeJ8-yfX80-00331-00061104-00061254 we'll dig into some of these sectors pMeJ8-yfX80-00332-00061255-00061471 what are you seeing yes certainly so pMeJ8-yfX80-00333-00061472-00061647 from a sector breakdown point of view pMeJ8-yfX80-00334-00061648-00061823 that listen none of them were spared pMeJ8-yfX80-00335-00061824-00061991 let's be honest right there's a slowdown pMeJ8-yfX80-00336-00061991-00062206 in spending but uh containers and pMeJ8-yfX80-00337-00062207-00062382 containerization were by far the most pMeJ8-yfX80-00338-00062383-00062454 stable pMeJ8-yfX80-00339-00062455-00062719 so clearly this is a priority people are pMeJ8-yfX80-00340-00062720-00062887 recognizing that they need to go that pMeJ8-yfX80-00341-00062888-00062926 route pMeJ8-yfX80-00342-00062927-00063079 nobody wants to be tied to any pMeJ8-yfX80-00343-00063079-00063238 particular cloud provider pMeJ8-yfX80-00344-00063239-00063438 so container and containers are moving pMeJ8-yfX80-00345-00063439-00063542 uh the best they are pMeJ8-yfX80-00346-00063544-00063719 looking about as stable as they can be pMeJ8-yfX80-00347-00063720-00063863 when we drill down a little bit further pMeJ8-yfX80-00348-00063864-00064006 in there we're seeing kubernetes of pMeJ8-yfX80-00349-00064007-00064071 course pMeJ8-yfX80-00350-00064072-00064335 microsoft and aws really supporting in pMeJ8-yfX80-00351-00064336-00064438 that sector pMeJ8-yfX80-00352-00064439-00064591 now when you talk about the ones that pMeJ8-yfX80-00353-00064591-00064742 had the biggest survey over survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00354-00064744-00064823 declines pMeJ8-yfX80-00355-00064824-00065166 we are looking at mlai but like you said pMeJ8-yfX80-00356-00065167-00065350 still elevated spend so even though pMeJ8-yfX80-00357-00065351-00065487 there was a big survey over survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00358-00065488-00065694 decline the overall spending intentions pMeJ8-yfX80-00359-00065695-00065775 are healthy pMeJ8-yfX80-00360-00065776-00065991 nobody is getting away from it uh also pMeJ8-yfX80-00361-00065992-00066150 to corroborate that in the coveted pMeJ8-yfX80-00362-00066151-00066247 impact study pMeJ8-yfX80-00363-00066248-00066431 we asked people given the current pMeJ8-yfX80-00364-00066432-00066671 situation where their priorities are pMeJ8-yfX80-00365-00066672-00066967 and unfortunately in that area mlai and pMeJ8-yfX80-00366-00066968-00067071 the rpa pMeJ8-yfX80-00367-00067072-00067335 were actually not positioned as well so pMeJ8-yfX80-00368-00067336-00067487 it actually corroborates the covenant pMeJ8-yfX80-00369-00067488-00067575 impact survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00370-00067576-00067711 corroborates what we're seeing here in pMeJ8-yfX80-00371-00067712-00067879 our larger intentions pMeJ8-yfX80-00372-00067880-00068206 now when you look at mlai uh microsoft pMeJ8-yfX80-00373-00068207-00068343 is still you know very pMeJ8-yfX80-00374-00068344-00068582 well suited in that area uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00375-00068583-00068703 virtualization pMeJ8-yfX80-00376-00068704-00068982 was another big area that dropped which pMeJ8-yfX80-00377-00068983-00069126 was interesting because i think pMeJ8-yfX80-00378-00069127-00069311 the immediate covert impact and the work pMeJ8-yfX80-00379-00069312-00069487 from home we saw a little spike there pMeJ8-yfX80-00380-00069488-00069631 i think we definitely saw you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00381-00069632-00069806 companies like citrix right and pMeJ8-yfX80-00382-00069807-00070159 f5 and nutanix and aws workspaces pMeJ8-yfX80-00383-00070160-00070367 they all had a really good impact pMeJ8-yfX80-00384-00070368-00070550 positive when we first hit pMeJ8-yfX80-00385-00070551-00070750 but virtualization is dropping quite a pMeJ8-yfX80-00386-00070751-00070894 quite a bit there and again pMeJ8-yfX80-00387-00070895-00071126 no surprise microsoft is well positioned pMeJ8-yfX80-00388-00071127-00071206 as well pMeJ8-yfX80-00389-00071207-00071455 and then lastly uh enterprise content pMeJ8-yfX80-00390-00071456-00071543 management pMeJ8-yfX80-00391-00071544-00071791 also had a big big drop off and there pMeJ8-yfX80-00392-00071792-00071871 you're looking at pMeJ8-yfX80-00393-00071872-00072143 adobe box open text those are the type pMeJ8-yfX80-00394-00072144-00072287 of companies that seem to be having the pMeJ8-yfX80-00395-00072288-00072455 biggest survey over survey decline in pMeJ8-yfX80-00396-00072456-00072526 ecm pMeJ8-yfX80-00397-00072527-00072655 yeah and i just want to make a comment pMeJ8-yfX80-00398-00072656-00072831 on this this first of the two slides pMeJ8-yfX80-00399-00072832-00073055 is you see security you know it's it's pMeJ8-yfX80-00400-00073056-00073182 okay there's a little bit of a decline pMeJ8-yfX80-00401-00073183-00073303 but pMeJ8-yfX80-00402-00073304-00073462 but there's there's the story of the pMeJ8-yfX80-00403-00073463-00073638 haves and the have-nots if if you're an pMeJ8-yfX80-00404-00073639-00073806 endpoint security you're in cloud pMeJ8-yfX80-00405-00073807-00073879 security pMeJ8-yfX80-00406-00073880-00074079 you're in identity access management pMeJ8-yfX80-00407-00074080-00074231 there's some real tailwinds for you pMeJ8-yfX80-00408-00074232-00074471 right now you're seeing that with octa pMeJ8-yfX80-00409-00074472-00074599 crowd strike and z pMeJ8-yfX80-00410-00074600-00074775 scaler sail point you know i had a pMeJ8-yfX80-00411-00074776-00074911 really good quarter so pMeJ8-yfX80-00412-00074912-00075126 so that that's the story of kind of the pMeJ8-yfX80-00413-00075127-00075215 a mixed pMeJ8-yfX80-00414-00075216-00075479 mixed bag if you go to the next slide pMeJ8-yfX80-00415-00075480-00075550 guys pMeJ8-yfX80-00416-00075551-00075799 uh what jumps out here on the second pMeJ8-yfX80-00417-00075800-00075894 sector breakdown pMeJ8-yfX80-00418-00075895-00076150 in eric you alluded to this is is rpa pMeJ8-yfX80-00419-00076151-00076343 very elevated although down pMeJ8-yfX80-00420-00076344-00076599 uh somewhat still again very elevated pMeJ8-yfX80-00421-00076600-00076703 and cloud computing pMeJ8-yfX80-00422-00076704-00077023 i mean yeah i mean that's how everybody pMeJ8-yfX80-00423-00077024-00077143 wants to talk about it's it's pMeJ8-yfX80-00424-00077144-00077391 this is a large market that continues to pMeJ8-yfX80-00425-00077392-00077447 grow pMeJ8-yfX80-00426-00077448-00077759 very very fast yeah it's an a2 cloud pMeJ8-yfX80-00427-00077760-00077919 right i mean even the cloud we're kind pMeJ8-yfX80-00428-00077920-00078103 of shocked when we saw that too but pMeJ8-yfX80-00429-00078104-00078359 uh you know again it's still a healthy pMeJ8-yfX80-00430-00078360-00078438 survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00431-00078439-00078671 for cloud spending is still there but pMeJ8-yfX80-00432-00078672-00078879 what we are seeing is a pretty big pMeJ8-yfX80-00433-00078880-00079038 survey over survey decline pMeJ8-yfX80-00434-00079039-00079287 that is probably if you had to translate pMeJ8-yfX80-00435-00079288-00079511 that it's going to show slower growth pMeJ8-yfX80-00436-00079512-00079679 still double-digit growth but slower pMeJ8-yfX80-00437-00079680-00079903 than we expected and interesting in the pMeJ8-yfX80-00438-00079904-00079959 cloud pMeJ8-yfX80-00439-00079960-00080326 again microsoft is very steady gcp pMeJ8-yfX80-00440-00080327-00080615 steady we saw aws soften a little bit pMeJ8-yfX80-00441-00080616-00080743 and that's something that i think we pMeJ8-yfX80-00442-00080744-00080911 need to keep an eye on there uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00443-00080912-00081175 we are seeing some softening trends ibm pMeJ8-yfX80-00444-00081176-00081350 and oracle unfortunately no matter how pMeJ8-yfX80-00445-00081351-00081447 hard they push pMeJ8-yfX80-00446-00081448-00081615 uh doesn't really seem to be making a pMeJ8-yfX80-00447-00081616-00081806 dent at least with our it decision pMeJ8-yfX80-00448-00081807-00081871 makers pMeJ8-yfX80-00449-00081872-00082087 that respond to the survey but one thing pMeJ8-yfX80-00450-00082088-00082206 that was interesting pMeJ8-yfX80-00451-00082207-00082518 was uh vmware on aws pMeJ8-yfX80-00452-00082519-00082687 actually looked much much better than pMeJ8-yfX80-00453-00082688-00082879 vmware alone pMeJ8-yfX80-00454-00082880-00083062 so on the cloud side those are pretty pMeJ8-yfX80-00455-00083063-00083247 interesting takeaways yeah we've talked pMeJ8-yfX80-00456-00083248-00083399 we talked about that a couple of uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00457-00083400-00083638 episodes back as as the well a couple pMeJ8-yfX80-00458-00083639-00083703 things pMeJ8-yfX80-00459-00083704-00083887 to pick up on your comments you pMeJ8-yfX80-00460-00083888-00084079 mentioned ibm and oracle they're just so pMeJ8-yfX80-00461-00084080-00084318 large they're they're growing businesses pMeJ8-yfX80-00462-00084319-00084423 are not pMeJ8-yfX80-00463-00084424-00084575 growing fast enough and they're not pMeJ8-yfX80-00464-00084576-00084743 large enough to offset the decline in pMeJ8-yfX80-00465-00084744-00084926 their declining businesses pMeJ8-yfX80-00466-00084927-00085087 yet they're huge they have they throw pMeJ8-yfX80-00467-00085088-00085294 off a lot of cash and so pMeJ8-yfX80-00468-00085295-00085423 you know they're maybe their stocks not pMeJ8-yfX80-00469-00085424-00085615 going through the roof but they're pMeJ8-yfX80-00470-00085616-00085847 pretty stable companies from that regard pMeJ8-yfX80-00471-00085848-00086118 i wonder you know maybe aws is starting pMeJ8-yfX80-00472-00086119-00086167 to hit pMeJ8-yfX80-00473-00086168-00086343 some of those you know the law of large pMeJ8-yfX80-00474-00086344-00086479 numbers i mean they're still growing pMeJ8-yfX80-00475-00086480-00086782 very very rapidly for a 45 plus billion pMeJ8-yfX80-00476-00086783-00086855 dollar pMeJ8-yfX80-00477-00086856-00087071 you know organization you know still pMeJ8-yfX80-00478-00087072-00087311 growing well into the double digits so pMeJ8-yfX80-00479-00087312-00087543 it just gets harder uh and then and then pMeJ8-yfX80-00480-00087544-00087655 but the other thing i wanted to pick up pMeJ8-yfX80-00481-00087656-00087775 on is you mentioned pMeJ8-yfX80-00482-00087776-00088047 uh vmware cloud on aws we're seeing pMeJ8-yfX80-00483-00088048-00088167 those hybrid pMeJ8-yfX80-00484-00088168-00088350 solutions really start to pick up the pMeJ8-yfX80-00485-00088351-00088503 multi-cloud solutions which pMeJ8-yfX80-00486-00088504-00088662 i was a real skeptic you know a couple pMeJ8-yfX80-00487-00088663-00088862 years ago because it wasn't really pMeJ8-yfX80-00488-00088863-00089126 real now becoming real and i think when pMeJ8-yfX80-00489-00089127-00089191 you talk to pMeJ8-yfX80-00490-00089192-00089391 and you know well this well from your pMeJ8-yfX80-00491-00089392-00089582 your van discussions pMeJ8-yfX80-00492-00089583-00089775 people are looking at options for cloud pMeJ8-yfX80-00493-00089776-00089911 they want pMeJ8-yfX80-00494-00089912-00090175 multiple clouds the right horse for the pMeJ8-yfX80-00495-00090176-00090294 right course pMeJ8-yfX80-00496-00090295-00090503 they want to reduce their risk they want pMeJ8-yfX80-00497-00090504-00090694 to ensure exit strategies and pMeJ8-yfX80-00498-00090695-00090871 some clouds are just better at some pMeJ8-yfX80-00499-00090872-00091103 things than others pMeJ8-yfX80-00500-00091104-00091294 yeah i completely agree and as you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00501-00091295-00091462 i do interview a lot of these i.t pMeJ8-yfX80-00502-00091463-00091615 decision makers that we survey to get a pMeJ8-yfX80-00503-00091616-00091782 little more granularity and to dig pMeJ8-yfX80-00504-00091783-00092015 into the details and you and i just a pMeJ8-yfX80-00505-00092016-00092287 great example we did a session on um pMeJ8-yfX80-00506-00092288-00092487 on data warehousing as a service we're a pMeJ8-yfX80-00507-00092488-00092599 snowflake and pMeJ8-yfX80-00508-00092600-00092791 the main reason that people love them is pMeJ8-yfX80-00509-00092792-00092982 because they have cloud portability pMeJ8-yfX80-00510-00092983-00093206 they can move across multiple clouds pMeJ8-yfX80-00511-00093207-00093391 nobody wants to be tied to one cloud pMeJ8-yfX80-00512-00093392-00093615 provider they need to be agnostic pMeJ8-yfX80-00513-00093616-00093743 and if you look at you know something pMeJ8-yfX80-00514-00093744-00093935 like microsoft right there there's pMeJ8-yfX80-00515-00093936-00094167 software suite is fantastic so most pMeJ8-yfX80-00516-00094168-00094326 people are going to be aligned for them pMeJ8-yfX80-00517-00094327-00094535 they provide great active directory the pMeJ8-yfX80-00518-00094536-00094711 enterprise applications are absolutely pMeJ8-yfX80-00519-00094712-00094782 incredible pMeJ8-yfX80-00520-00094783-00094935 but if you're looking to do straight pMeJ8-yfX80-00521-00094936-00095215 mlai or straight data warehousing maybe pMeJ8-yfX80-00522-00095216-00095462 aws redshift maybe google bigquery pMeJ8-yfX80-00523-00095463-00095687 might be a better fit for you there's no pMeJ8-yfX80-00524-00095688-00095823 reason to be tied into pMeJ8-yfX80-00525-00095824-00096047 one so what we're seeing more and more pMeJ8-yfX80-00526-00096048-00096206 is those vendors that offer pMeJ8-yfX80-00527-00096207-00096518 cloud portability or hybrid availability pMeJ8-yfX80-00528-00096519-00096774 to do some on-prem for security some pMeJ8-yfX80-00529-00096775-00096855 cloud pMeJ8-yfX80-00530-00096856-00097038 uh they're really taking you know taking pMeJ8-yfX80-00531-00097039-00097238 a step up in our recent surveys and pMeJ8-yfX80-00532-00097239-00097391 another comment you made dave if i can pMeJ8-yfX80-00533-00097392-00097550 just backtrack to it is pMeJ8-yfX80-00534-00097551-00097743 he kind of mentioned how some of the the pMeJ8-yfX80-00535-00097744-00097967 vendors are taking more and more share pMeJ8-yfX80-00536-00097968-00098182 we are continuing to see this this theme pMeJ8-yfX80-00537-00098183-00098399 of a widening bifurcation pMeJ8-yfX80-00538-00098400-00098726 where although the overall spend that pMeJ8-yfX80-00539-00098727-00098862 high is shrinking pMeJ8-yfX80-00540-00098863-00099031 the leading vendors are taking much pMeJ8-yfX80-00541-00099032-00099199 bigger slices from that pie pMeJ8-yfX80-00542-00099200-00099431 and that is continuing across the entire pMeJ8-yfX80-00543-00099432-00099526 year pMeJ8-yfX80-00544-00099527-00099703 yeah definitely a time of disruption so pMeJ8-yfX80-00545-00099704-00099847 thank you for bringing that up pMeJ8-yfX80-00546-00099848-00100167 uh okay the next uh graphic i want to pMeJ8-yfX80-00547-00100168-00100311 show you is actually a motion graphic pMeJ8-yfX80-00548-00100312-00100335 and pMeJ8-yfX80-00549-00100336-00100471 and what we're showing here is one of pMeJ8-yfX80-00550-00100472-00100623 our favorite views on the vertical axis pMeJ8-yfX80-00551-00100624-00100774 you've got net score remember pMeJ8-yfX80-00552-00100775-00101055 netscore essentially etr every quarter pMeJ8-yfX80-00553-00101056-00101150 like clockwork pMeJ8-yfX80-00554-00101151-00101318 asks customers are you spending more pMeJ8-yfX80-00555-00101319-00101487 you're spending less it's more granular pMeJ8-yfX80-00556-00101488-00101550 than that pMeJ8-yfX80-00557-00101551-00101735 but essentially they subtract the red pMeJ8-yfX80-00558-00101736-00101903 from the green and that leaves you with pMeJ8-yfX80-00559-00101904-00101991 net score pMeJ8-yfX80-00560-00101992-00102135 so the higher the net score the better pMeJ8-yfX80-00561-00102136-00102303 on the on the vertical axis on the pMeJ8-yfX80-00562-00102304-00102542 on the horizontal axis is market share pMeJ8-yfX80-00563-00102543-00102758 it's presence it's pervasiveness in the pMeJ8-yfX80-00564-00102759-00102918 data set so you want to be up and to the pMeJ8-yfX80-00565-00102919-00103078 right of course like all these ch pMeJ8-yfX80-00566-00103079-00103294 xy's and what we're showing here is we pMeJ8-yfX80-00567-00103295-00103399 go back to pMeJ8-yfX80-00568-00103400-00103615 october 2018 remember this is the pMeJ8-yfX80-00569-00103616-00103815 october survey and you can see pMeJ8-yfX80-00570-00103816-00104023 the movement and what's happening and a pMeJ8-yfX80-00571-00104024-00104166 couple of points here really is pMeJ8-yfX80-00572-00104167-00104375 one is container orchestration and pMeJ8-yfX80-00573-00104376-00104518 container platforms pMeJ8-yfX80-00574-00104519-00104871 cloud rpa ml they all stand out and now pMeJ8-yfX80-00575-00104872-00104902 we pMeJ8-yfX80-00576-00104903-00105166 you can see the context the context of pMeJ8-yfX80-00577-00105167-00105415 their quote-unquote market share as well pMeJ8-yfX80-00578-00105416-00105566 and you see that that bunching you see pMeJ8-yfX80-00579-00105567-00105751 some of the legacy stuff the the more pMeJ8-yfX80-00580-00105752-00105886 mature markets like pMeJ8-yfX80-00581-00105888-00106095 storage and pc tablets and laptops they pMeJ8-yfX80-00582-00106096-00106247 don't have a you know huge next pMeJ8-yfX80-00583-00106248-00106551 outsourcing not a big net score but but pMeJ8-yfX80-00584-00106552-00106639 they're there and they're kind of pMeJ8-yfX80-00585-00106640-00106775 bunched up down in the middle pMeJ8-yfX80-00586-00106776-00107110 but you can also see how they've slowly pMeJ8-yfX80-00587-00107111-00107278 got depressed over time even the pMeJ8-yfX80-00588-00107279-00107375 elevated ones no pMeJ8-yfX80-00589-00107376-00107639 nobody in the in the recent survey is pMeJ8-yfX80-00590-00107640-00107678 over pMeJ8-yfX80-00591-00107679-00107886 60 percent net score i think you guys pMeJ8-yfX80-00592-00107888-00108007 said that the overall pMeJ8-yfX80-00593-00108008-00108351 net score was the lowest in history so pMeJ8-yfX80-00594-00108352-00108527 it's just this is just a good way to pMeJ8-yfX80-00595-00108528-00108734 visualize the various sectors and pMeJ8-yfX80-00596-00108735-00109047 how spending momentum and share pMeJ8-yfX80-00597-00109048-00109447 is shifting yeah that's a very good pMeJ8-yfX80-00598-00109448-00109495 point pMeJ8-yfX80-00599-00109496-00109734 and you are right the overall survey net pMeJ8-yfX80-00600-00109735-00110078 score is actually 25.3 percent and it is pMeJ8-yfX80-00601-00110079-00110223 the lowest ever we've pMeJ8-yfX80-00602-00110224-00110495 captured so that actually is translating pMeJ8-yfX80-00603-00110496-00110639 into what we expect to be pMeJ8-yfX80-00604-00110640-00110919 single digit declines in overall growth pMeJ8-yfX80-00605-00110920-00111054 in it budgets pMeJ8-yfX80-00606-00111055-00111231 which again is in line with what we've pMeJ8-yfX80-00607-00111232-00111447 been saying we caught early on about pMeJ8-yfX80-00608-00111448-00111623 negative five and a half that has pMeJ8-yfX80-00609-00111624-00111758 improved now it's in this quarter to pMeJ8-yfX80-00610-00111759-00111919 about negative three and a half pMeJ8-yfX80-00611-00111920-00112047 but if you look at the midpoint here pMeJ8-yfX80-00612-00112048-00112231 we're very clearly in you know mid pMeJ8-yfX80-00613-00112232-00112399 single digit declines pMeJ8-yfX80-00614-00112400-00112702 and the entire uh area is being impacted pMeJ8-yfX80-00615-00112703-00112863 now there are certainly some areas that pMeJ8-yfX80-00616-00112864-00112990 are more important than others pMeJ8-yfX80-00617-00112991-00113254 there's no doubt about it um but yeah pMeJ8-yfX80-00618-00113255-00113439 outsourcing is one you mentioned i'm pMeJ8-yfX80-00619-00113440-00113623 absolutely getting decimated nobody pMeJ8-yfX80-00620-00113624-00113758 really has the money right now to be pMeJ8-yfX80-00621-00113759-00113823 doing i.t pMeJ8-yfX80-00622-00113824-00114023 outsourcing that's just not a priority pMeJ8-yfX80-00623-00114024-00114175 the priority is pMeJ8-yfX80-00624-00114176-00114478 remote connectivity remote security how pMeJ8-yfX80-00625-00114479-00114663 do i get identity access and governance pMeJ8-yfX80-00626-00114664-00114839 to make sure that my employees are doing pMeJ8-yfX80-00627-00114840-00115007 what they're supposed to be doing even pMeJ8-yfX80-00628-00115008-00115207 though they're not on my network anymore pMeJ8-yfX80-00629-00115208-00115447 all of those things are continuing and pMeJ8-yfX80-00630-00115448-00115654 as you saw in the covet 19 impact survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00631-00115655-00115766 they're not going away pMeJ8-yfX80-00632-00115767-00115934 you had mentioned on a solo session you pMeJ8-yfX80-00633-00115935-00116078 did i think a week ago pMeJ8-yfX80-00634-00116079-00116310 where you cited our data saying that pMeJ8-yfX80-00635-00116311-00116407 permanent workforce pMeJ8-yfX80-00636-00116408-00116647 is going to double from where it was at pMeJ8-yfX80-00637-00116648-00116790 pre-pandemic levels pMeJ8-yfX80-00638-00116791-00116943 so that means a lot of the people that pMeJ8-yfX80-00639-00116944-00117127 slapped a band-aid on their networking pMeJ8-yfX80-00640-00117128-00117310 to get their employees to work from home pMeJ8-yfX80-00641-00117311-00117454 that band-aid solution's not going to pMeJ8-yfX80-00642-00117455-00117590 work they need to find one that's pMeJ8-yfX80-00643-00117591-00117686 permanent now pMeJ8-yfX80-00644-00117688-00117966 so um the areas of spend although it is pMeJ8-yfX80-00645-00117967-00118054 declining pMeJ8-yfX80-00646-00118055-00118310 there are very clear delineations of pMeJ8-yfX80-00647-00118311-00118502 where that spend is going pMeJ8-yfX80-00648-00118503-00118654 yeah and i want to just pick up on pMeJ8-yfX80-00649-00118655-00118775 something you said about the work from pMeJ8-yfX80-00650-00118776-00118823 home pMeJ8-yfX80-00651-00118824-00119023 uh doubling because i've shared that pMeJ8-yfX80-00652-00119024-00119151 data with some folks and had some pMeJ8-yfX80-00653-00119152-00119231 discussions pMeJ8-yfX80-00654-00119232-00119375 we're talking about people that work pMeJ8-yfX80-00655-00119376-00119566 from home not yeah i pMeJ8-yfX80-00656-00119567-00119783 come in couple times a week this is this pMeJ8-yfX80-00657-00119783-00119927 is the work from home pMeJ8-yfX80-00658-00119928-00120214 component uh and so i think the hybrid pMeJ8-yfX80-00659-00120215-00120407 is gonna increase as well but the pMeJ8-yfX80-00660-00120408-00120623 the hardcore work from i think it was pMeJ8-yfX80-00661-00120624-00120775 mid-teen 16 pMeJ8-yfX80-00662-00120776-00120958 or something doubling in the post pMeJ8-yfX80-00663-00120959-00121158 pandemic was the expectation and pMeJ8-yfX80-00664-00121159-00121278 and again i just wanted to sort of pMeJ8-yfX80-00665-00121279-00121439 clarify that i think your your data pMeJ8-yfX80-00666-00121440-00121527 there is pMeJ8-yfX80-00667-00121528-00121727 is quite good um how about some of the pMeJ8-yfX80-00668-00121728-00121863 vendors i think you know now that pMeJ8-yfX80-00669-00121864-00121934 snowflake's pMeJ8-yfX80-00670-00121935-00122175 public you guys may be doing some some pMeJ8-yfX80-00671-00122176-00122278 forecasts there pMeJ8-yfX80-00672-00122279-00122623 uh let's start there sure yeah so uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00673-00122624-00122783 it's fun to talk about the high level pMeJ8-yfX80-00674-00122783-00122902 right and talk about the sector pMeJ8-yfX80-00675-00122903-00122999 breakdown and pMeJ8-yfX80-00676-00123000-00123143 where we're seeing things but at the end pMeJ8-yfX80-00677-00123144-00123271 of the day people just love to talk pMeJ8-yfX80-00678-00123272-00123463 about the individual vendors so pMeJ8-yfX80-00679-00123464-00123558 there's a few things that were pMeJ8-yfX80-00680-00123559-00123734 interesting yeah we were able to finally pMeJ8-yfX80-00681-00123735-00123902 you know come out with a real viewpoint pMeJ8-yfX80-00682-00123903-00123990 on snowflake pMeJ8-yfX80-00683-00123991-00124166 uh now that they're out in public and we pMeJ8-yfX80-00684-00124167-00124295 kind of launch with a positive to pMeJ8-yfX80-00685-00124296-00124407 neutral viewpoint pMeJ8-yfX80-00686-00124408-00124502 i don't think there's going to be pMeJ8-yfX80-00687-00124503-00124686 anything here that shocks you we're pMeJ8-yfX80-00688-00124688-00124734 seeing pMeJ8-yfX80-00689-00124735-00124975 absolutely outstanding expansion rates pMeJ8-yfX80-00690-00124976-00125254 uh all the commentary we get from a cios pMeJ8-yfX80-00691-00125255-00125375 or just in you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00692-00125376-00125590 incredible the market share gains are pMeJ8-yfX80-00693-00125591-00125743 about as high as you're going to see in pMeJ8-yfX80-00694-00125744-00125823 the survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00695-00125824-00126007 they are extremely well positioned to pMeJ8-yfX80-00696-00126008-00126158 continue executing pMeJ8-yfX80-00697-00126159-00126375 and uh you know this is not in the data pMeJ8-yfX80-00698-00126376-00126495 set but we also know that that pMeJ8-yfX80-00699-00126496-00126671 management team is fantastic pMeJ8-yfX80-00700-00126672-00126823 i would think that they had set pMeJ8-yfX80-00701-00126824-00126975 themselves up coming out as a public pMeJ8-yfX80-00702-00126976-00127047 company pMeJ8-yfX80-00703-00127048-00127247 not to completely disappoint and pMeJ8-yfX80-00704-00127248-00127407 everything in our data set pMeJ8-yfX80-00705-00127408-00127583 shows absolutely no reason why they pMeJ8-yfX80-00706-00127583-00127758 would disappoint well and so you may be pMeJ8-yfX80-00707-00127759-00127943 wondering folks like well wait a minute pMeJ8-yfX80-00708-00127944-00128110 with all that great news i mean how pMeJ8-yfX80-00709-00128111-00128231 could they be positive to neutral i pMeJ8-yfX80-00710-00128232-00128366 could maybe be neutral pMeJ8-yfX80-00711-00128367-00128558 the reason is because they have a 66 pMeJ8-yfX80-00712-00128559-00128831 roughly 66 billion dollar valuation and pMeJ8-yfX80-00713-00128832-00129047 what etr is doing is they're taking that pMeJ8-yfX80-00714-00129048-00129239 into consideration as well pMeJ8-yfX80-00715-00129240-00129423 relative to so they're looking at the pMeJ8-yfX80-00716-00129424-00129607 the street forecast the consensus pMeJ8-yfX80-00717-00129608-00129758 forecast and saying okay how does the pMeJ8-yfX80-00718-00129759-00129863 data pMeJ8-yfX80-00719-00129864-00130086 line up to that and so a lot of people pMeJ8-yfX80-00720-00130088-00130199 are asking the question you know can pMeJ8-yfX80-00721-00130200-00130334 snowflake live up pMeJ8-yfX80-00722-00130335-00130486 to its valuation i don't think there's pMeJ8-yfX80-00723-00130488-00130734 any lack of total available market pMeJ8-yfX80-00724-00130735-00130902 here i mean it's very very large the pMeJ8-yfX80-00725-00130903-00131063 data market it's enormous pMeJ8-yfX80-00726-00131064-00131271 and as just a plug for an event that pMeJ8-yfX80-00727-00131272-00131487 we're doing on november 17th pMeJ8-yfX80-00728-00131488-00131783 it starts we're doing a global event and pMeJ8-yfX80-00729-00131784-00131951 we're going to be looking at this issue pMeJ8-yfX80-00730-00131952-00132119 very closely interviewing you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00731-00132120-00132343 customers and partners and executives pMeJ8-yfX80-00732-00132344-00132375 and pMeJ8-yfX80-00733-00132376-00132551 you know you can judge for yourself if pMeJ8-yfX80-00734-00132552-00132711 you think the vision they're putting out pMeJ8-yfX80-00735-00132712-00132854 this vision of a data cloud pMeJ8-yfX80-00736-00132855-00133054 you see this if this vision you think is pMeJ8-yfX80-00737-00133055-00133247 going to you know have a big enough tam pMeJ8-yfX80-00738-00133248-00133447 that they can grow into and as eric said pMeJ8-yfX80-00739-00133448-00133559 the great management team pMeJ8-yfX80-00740-00133560-00133695 will they be able to execute you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00741-00133696-00133871 decide for yourself but uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00742-00133872-00134095 but very exciting uh ipo obviously that pMeJ8-yfX80-00743-00134096-00134223 we've tracked quite closely pMeJ8-yfX80-00744-00134224-00134414 elastic is another one that you guys pMeJ8-yfX80-00745-00134415-00134551 have followed quite closely i know you pMeJ8-yfX80-00746-00134552-00134671 got some data there that you want to pMeJ8-yfX80-00747-00134672-00134839 share as well pMeJ8-yfX80-00748-00134840-00135054 yeah i certainly do the apm spaces is pMeJ8-yfX80-00749-00135055-00135231 really interesting one last quick point pMeJ8-yfX80-00750-00135232-00135327 on snowflake pMeJ8-yfX80-00751-00135328-00135551 uh we don't have regression forecasts on pMeJ8-yfX80-00752-00135552-00135727 them because they haven't been out pMeJ8-yfX80-00753-00135728-00135878 public long enough for us to be able to pMeJ8-yfX80-00754-00135879-00136102 do that sort of back testing right so pMeJ8-yfX80-00755-00136103-00136343 without that uh data science behind us pMeJ8-yfX80-00756-00136344-00136495 we will never really go with a full pMeJ8-yfX80-00757-00136496-00136599 positive so pMeJ8-yfX80-00758-00136600-00136823 to your point saying positive to neutral pMeJ8-yfX80-00759-00136824-00136966 is not negative at neutral stance pMeJ8-yfX80-00760-00136967-00137047 whatsoever pMeJ8-yfX80-00761-00137048-00137190 it's just without that regression pMeJ8-yfX80-00762-00137191-00137399 support behind our data that's what we pMeJ8-yfX80-00763-00137400-00137535 just tend to do because at the end of pMeJ8-yfX80-00764-00137536-00137583 the day pMeJ8-yfX80-00765-00137584-00137807 we're a data science company so yeah you pMeJ8-yfX80-00766-00137808-00137895 need you need some pMeJ8-yfX80-00767-00137896-00138023 some history there to really make those pMeJ8-yfX80-00768-00138024-00138231 calls but yeah let's talk about elastic pMeJ8-yfX80-00769-00138232-00138447 yeah sure you got it so uh recently i pMeJ8-yfX80-00770-00138448-00138671 hosted a panel on the apm and monitoring pMeJ8-yfX80-00771-00138672-00138727 space pMeJ8-yfX80-00772-00138728-00138919 it was incredibly enlightening it's a pMeJ8-yfX80-00773-00138920-00139102 very crowded space that uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00774-00139103-00139390 our cios told us is right for disruption pMeJ8-yfX80-00775-00139391-00139431 um pMeJ8-yfX80-00776-00139432-00139695 and it ended up being a little bit a of pMeJ8-yfX80-00777-00139696-00139847 an avalanche in our data because it pMeJ8-yfX80-00778-00139848-00140023 wasn't just elastic but it was also pMeJ8-yfX80-00779-00140024-00140199 splunk and dynatrace that we ended up pMeJ8-yfX80-00780-00140200-00140311 putting ratings on pMeJ8-yfX80-00781-00140312-00140527 now elastic as we know is a an open pMeJ8-yfX80-00782-00140528-00140711 source model a freemium to pMeJ8-yfX80-00783-00140712-00140959 pay type of model and we normally try to pMeJ8-yfX80-00784-00140960-00141119 stay away from open source models pMeJ8-yfX80-00785-00141120-00141278 because it's kind of hard to predict pMeJ8-yfX80-00786-00141279-00141478 how that converts to revenue but the pMeJ8-yfX80-00787-00141479-00141599 data was so strong pMeJ8-yfX80-00788-00141600-00141759 that again we came out with a positive pMeJ8-yfX80-00789-00141760-00141975 to neutral rating on elastic pMeJ8-yfX80-00790-00141976-00142166 it was based on just elevated spend pMeJ8-yfX80-00791-00142167-00142278 levels across pMeJ8-yfX80-00792-00142279-00142463 there was almost no negativity we pMeJ8-yfX80-00793-00142464-00142590 weren't seeing any decrease or pMeJ8-yfX80-00794-00142591-00142775 replacement indications pMeJ8-yfX80-00795-00142776-00142966 really solid positioning in the fortune pMeJ8-yfX80-00796-00142967-00143166 500 accounts which i was a bit surprised pMeJ8-yfX80-00797-00143167-00143254 about pMeJ8-yfX80-00798-00143255-00143495 and uh the other thing here is that pMeJ8-yfX80-00799-00143496-00143590 elastic pMeJ8-yfX80-00800-00143591-00143766 tends to be really expanding in pMeJ8-yfX80-00801-00143767-00143902 information security pMeJ8-yfX80-00802-00143903-00144095 this is no longer just about monitoring pMeJ8-yfX80-00803-00144096-00144311 and logging they are becoming a very pMeJ8-yfX80-00804-00144312-00144399 relevant pMeJ8-yfX80-00805-00144400-00144654 infosec play and they are breathing down pMeJ8-yfX80-00806-00144655-00144799 the necks of splunk pMeJ8-yfX80-00807-00144800-00144999 they can do the same thing and they can pMeJ8-yfX80-00808-00145000-00145111 do it much cheaper pMeJ8-yfX80-00809-00145112-00145343 the caveat being you need to have the it pMeJ8-yfX80-00810-00145344-00145471 and the human skill set pMeJ8-yfX80-00811-00145472-00145790 to run elastic so it really comes down pMeJ8-yfX80-00812-00145791-00145966 to are you sophisticated enough with the pMeJ8-yfX80-00813-00145967-00146135 human capital management pMeJ8-yfX80-00814-00146136-00146390 to run it but everything we saw here pMeJ8-yfX80-00815-00146391-00146583 just incredibly improved competitive pMeJ8-yfX80-00816-00146584-00146663 positioning pMeJ8-yfX80-00817-00146664-00146847 they actually had the number one net pMeJ8-yfX80-00818-00146848-00147087 score in all of information security pMeJ8-yfX80-00819-00147088-00147359 if any vendor that had over 50 citations pMeJ8-yfX80-00820-00147360-00147543 it was just too hard to ignore we had to pMeJ8-yfX80-00821-00147544-00147695 come out with a positive neutral pMeJ8-yfX80-00822-00147696-00147911 that's super interesting eric and and of pMeJ8-yfX80-00823-00147912-00148102 course yeah we we covered that space pMeJ8-yfX80-00824-00148103-00148239 recently everybody wants a piece of pMeJ8-yfX80-00825-00148240-00148390 splunk and have for a number of years pMeJ8-yfX80-00826-00148391-00148447 but pMeJ8-yfX80-00827-00148448-00148639 you know you're seeing datadog you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00828-00148640-00148759 come after it uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00829-00148760-00148975 uh then you see some some startups pMeJ8-yfX80-00830-00148976-00149111 getting into the space pMeJ8-yfX80-00831-00149112-00149254 jeremy burton launched his company pMeJ8-yfX80-00832-00149255-00149454 observe you know honeycomb pMeJ8-yfX80-00833-00149455-00149623 is is in that they kind of coined the pMeJ8-yfX80-00834-00149624-00149847 term uh observability pMeJ8-yfX80-00835-00149848-00150151 uh chaos search is another one ed walsh pMeJ8-yfX80-00836-00150152-00150302 joined that company and so pMeJ8-yfX80-00837-00150303-00150463 you see a lot of a lot of folks really pMeJ8-yfX80-00838-00150464-00150647 going after that space why not i mean pMeJ8-yfX80-00839-00150648-00150814 it's such a successful company pMeJ8-yfX80-00840-00150815-00151071 the the pickup of signal fx you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00841-00151072-00151254 fill in some holes we talked about that pMeJ8-yfX80-00842-00151255-00151511 you know on the venn and uh it's a very pMeJ8-yfX80-00843-00151512-00151631 interesting space pMeJ8-yfX80-00844-00151632-00151854 and one i think you know has some pMeJ8-yfX80-00845-00151855-00152047 somewhat depressed levels from a net pMeJ8-yfX80-00846-00152048-00152190 score standpoint but pMeJ8-yfX80-00847-00152191-00152471 as some of your venn uh observers said pMeJ8-yfX80-00848-00152472-00152519 this pMeJ8-yfX80-00849-00152520-00152702 market is here to stay and becoming much pMeJ8-yfX80-00850-00152703-00152871 more more important as part of digital pMeJ8-yfX80-00851-00152872-00153054 transformation as part of a dashboard of pMeJ8-yfX80-00852-00153055-00153239 digital transformation pMeJ8-yfX80-00853-00153240-00153431 yeah coining that turn observability pMeJ8-yfX80-00854-00153432-00153566 really just hit it on the nail on the pMeJ8-yfX80-00855-00153567-00153599 head pMeJ8-yfX80-00856-00153600-00153743 you know when we just talked about pMeJ8-yfX80-00857-00153744-00153887 monitoring an application that's not pMeJ8-yfX80-00858-00153888-00153999 what it's about anymore pMeJ8-yfX80-00859-00154000-00154214 right you need to have observability in pMeJ8-yfX80-00860-00154215-00154431 multi hybrid cloud environments whether pMeJ8-yfX80-00861-00154432-00154575 it's your infrastructure or people pMeJ8-yfX80-00862-00154576-00154695 actually writing code for your pMeJ8-yfX80-00863-00154696-00154783 application pMeJ8-yfX80-00864-00154784-00155063 and so that single pane of glass end to pMeJ8-yfX80-00865-00155064-00155119 end pMeJ8-yfX80-00866-00155120-00155319 is the holy grail of monitoring and pMeJ8-yfX80-00867-00155320-00155511 that's what these guys are pushing for pMeJ8-yfX80-00868-00155512-00155678 the new relics the data dogs the pMeJ8-yfX80-00869-00155679-00155854 elastics they're pMeJ8-yfX80-00870-00155855-00156095 being they're getting there more quickly pMeJ8-yfX80-00871-00156096-00156263 than splunk and dynatrace or app pMeJ8-yfX80-00872-00156264-00156407 dynamics from cisco are pMeJ8-yfX80-00873-00156408-00156543 that's what the people are telling us pMeJ8-yfX80-00874-00156544-00156719 the ones i speak to the cios pMeJ8-yfX80-00875-00156720-00156926 that use it in the field they're getting pMeJ8-yfX80-00876-00156927-00157031 there more quickly pMeJ8-yfX80-00877-00157032-00157214 and they're doing it more cheaply now pMeJ8-yfX80-00878-00157215-00157366 this is not to say splunk is not a great pMeJ8-yfX80-00879-00157367-00157519 company we know it is pMeJ8-yfX80-00880-00157520-00157783 and also splunk has more api integration pMeJ8-yfX80-00881-00157784-00157966 into any ecosystem you want pMeJ8-yfX80-00882-00157967-00158119 they're not getting pulled or ripped out pMeJ8-yfX80-00883-00158120-00158302 anytime soon we're not saying that pMeJ8-yfX80-00884-00158303-00158487 but when we look at our data we had no pMeJ8-yfX80-00885-00158488-00158639 choice but to come out with a neutral to pMeJ8-yfX80-00886-00158640-00158719 negative pMeJ8-yfX80-00887-00158720-00158871 they are deteriorating and they're pMeJ8-yfX80-00888-00158872-00159063 spending intentions their customer pMeJ8-yfX80-00889-00159064-00159247 growth is completely stalling pMeJ8-yfX80-00890-00159248-00159383 we're not seeing any more increased pMeJ8-yfX80-00891-00159384-00159535 perversion in our data set among pMeJ8-yfX80-00892-00159536-00159623 customers pMeJ8-yfX80-00893-00159624-00159775 there just wasn't really anything we pMeJ8-yfX80-00894-00159776-00159959 could really do um pMeJ8-yfX80-00895-00159960-00160111 looking at the data set and that's what pMeJ8-yfX80-00896-00160112-00160326 we do we had no choice there's a lot of pMeJ8-yfX80-00897-00160327-00160495 skepticism heading into the pMeJ8-yfX80-00898-00160496-00160678 back half of this year and next year pMeJ8-yfX80-00899-00160679-00160871 there's so much competition coming after pMeJ8-yfX80-00900-00160872-00160902 them pMeJ8-yfX80-00901-00160903-00161047 and some of these people are just giving pMeJ8-yfX80-00902-00161048-00161247 it away for free it's pretty hard to pMeJ8-yfX80-00903-00161248-00161423 compete with free pMeJ8-yfX80-00904-00161424-00161639 yeah freeze very powerful uh all right pMeJ8-yfX80-00905-00161640-00161735 let's let's uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00906-00161736-00161959 you know speaking of skepticism pMeJ8-yfX80-00907-00161960-00162254 rackspaces had their ipo pMeJ8-yfX80-00908-00162255-00162511 what do you see in there oh man i'm not pMeJ8-yfX80-00909-00162512-00162647 really sure how to start there but pMeJ8-yfX80-00910-00162648-00162783 listen i don't want to you know beat a pMeJ8-yfX80-00911-00162784-00162911 company while it's down but their net pMeJ8-yfX80-00912-00162912-00163078 scores are actually negative pMeJ8-yfX80-00913-00163079-00163319 um you know i think at the negative 20 pMeJ8-yfX80-00914-00163320-00163439 range if i could possibly pMeJ8-yfX80-00915-00163440-00163663 uh you know recall that but listen pMeJ8-yfX80-00916-00163664-00163814 rackspace when they were private let's pMeJ8-yfX80-00917-00163815-00163943 give them some credit right pMeJ8-yfX80-00918-00163944-00164111 they decided to go out and buy a bunch pMeJ8-yfX80-00919-00164112-00164326 of different managed service providers pMeJ8-yfX80-00920-00164327-00164495 they tried to align themselves with you pMeJ8-yfX80-00921-00164496-00164647 know aws with oracle pMeJ8-yfX80-00922-00164648-00164799 so they've got this whole bundled thing pMeJ8-yfX80-00923-00164800-00164966 right now that isn't just straight pMeJ8-yfX80-00924-00164967-00165207 cloud computing anymore uh we'll see if pMeJ8-yfX80-00925-00165208-00165287 that plays out pMeJ8-yfX80-00926-00165288-00165519 but clearly we saw that the ipo was not pMeJ8-yfX80-00927-00165520-00165671 a very special ipo pMeJ8-yfX80-00928-00165672-00165943 uh in this environment the valuations in pMeJ8-yfX80-00929-00165944-00166078 the technology stocks pMeJ8-yfX80-00930-00166079-00166295 being very elevated having a negative pMeJ8-yfX80-00931-00166296-00166519 ipo was very telling but uh sticking pMeJ8-yfX80-00932-00166520-00166631 straight to the data pMeJ8-yfX80-00933-00166632-00166838 basically we're seeing negativity across pMeJ8-yfX80-00934-00166839-00166943 several years pMeJ8-yfX80-00935-00166944-00167119 uh it's the worst position vendor in pMeJ8-yfX80-00936-00167120-00167311 cloud computing that we even you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00937-00167312-00167551 cover we just had to take a look at it pMeJ8-yfX80-00938-00167552-00167678 right now and just be honest and say pMeJ8-yfX80-00939-00167679-00167790 according to the data pMeJ8-yfX80-00940-00167791-00167959 this is a very negative data set there pMeJ8-yfX80-00941-00167960-00168111 just isn't much we can do about it pMeJ8-yfX80-00942-00168112-00168335 wish them the best i hope their msp pMeJ8-yfX80-00943-00168336-00168487 revenue starts kicking in pMeJ8-yfX80-00944-00168488-00168663 and hopefully it'll change but for right pMeJ8-yfX80-00945-00168664-00168831 now the snapshot of our data pMeJ8-yfX80-00946-00168832-00169143 was quite dire okay eric well thanks so pMeJ8-yfX80-00947-00169144-00169190 much pMeJ8-yfX80-00948-00169191-00169454 so let's update folks so the the etr is pMeJ8-yfX80-00949-00169455-00169678 exiting its quiet period pMeJ8-yfX80-00950-00169679-00169847 which i love because that means i can pMeJ8-yfX80-00951-00169848-00170007 have at the data and pMeJ8-yfX80-00952-00170008-00170214 share with you so we'll be updating our pMeJ8-yfX80-00953-00170215-00170423 you know cloud scenarios security pMeJ8-yfX80-00954-00170424-00170671 automation our our infrastructure and pMeJ8-yfX80-00955-00170672-00170831 many other segments as well certainly pMeJ8-yfX80-00956-00170832-00170959 the data piece we've been tracking pMeJ8-yfX80-00957-00170960-00171014 snowflake pMeJ8-yfX80-00958-00171015-00171278 very closely uh and of course eric you pMeJ8-yfX80-00959-00171279-00171390 guys are already gearing up for your pMeJ8-yfX80-00960-00171391-00171671 january survey so you know pMeJ8-yfX80-00961-00171672-00172007 never ends well i gotta really i've got pMeJ8-yfX80-00962-00172008-00172175 a sizzo panel that i'm doing uh pMeJ8-yfX80-00963-00172176-00172438 next week as well we got four scissors pMeJ8-yfX80-00964-00172439-00172590 talking about security threats and pMeJ8-yfX80-00965-00172591-00172775 priorities for 2021 so pMeJ8-yfX80-00966-00172776-00172902 as soon as i wrap that you'll be the pMeJ8-yfX80-00967-00172903-00173087 first one i get my summary to oh those pMeJ8-yfX80-00968-00173088-00173247 are great i mean there's such deep dives pMeJ8-yfX80-00969-00173248-00173438 with uh with practitioners and it's just pMeJ8-yfX80-00970-00173439-00173478 an pMeJ8-yfX80-00971-00173479-00173671 open discussion so eric bradley thanks pMeJ8-yfX80-00972-00173672-00173951 so much for coming back in the cube pMeJ8-yfX80-00973-00173952-00174119 have a great weekend dave yeah you too pMeJ8-yfX80-00974-00174120-00174263 and thank you for watching everybody pMeJ8-yfX80-00975-00174264-00174319 this pMeJ8-yfX80-00976-00174320-00174535 this episode of cube insights powered by pMeJ8-yfX80-00977-00174536-00174719 etr go to etr pMeJ8-yfX80-00978-00174720-00174919 dot plus that's where all the survey pMeJ8-yfX80-00979-00174920-00175031 action is pMeJ8-yfX80-00980-00175032-00175266 i publish every week on wikibon.com and pMeJ8-yfX80-00981-00175267-00175423 siliconangle.com pMeJ8-yfX80-00982-00175424-00175678 all these episodes are available on pMeJ8-yfX80-00983-00175679-00175766 podcasts pMeJ8-yfX80-00984-00175767-00175999 wherever you watch you can you can dm me pMeJ8-yfX80-00985-00176000-00176254 i'm at divalante i post on linkedin you pMeJ8-yfX80-00986-00176255-00176443 can comment there or email me at pMeJ8-yfX80-00987-00176444-00176566 david.valante pMeJ8-yfX80-00988-00176567-00176766 at siliconangle.com this is dave pMeJ8-yfX80-00989-00176767-00176951 vellante for eric bradley pMeJ8-yfX80-00990-00176952-00177071 thanks for watching everybody we'll see pMeJ8-yfX80-00991-00177072-00178302 you next time pMeJ8-yfX80-00992-00178303-00178512 you pNEJQU0tFLY-00000-00000108-00001416 [Music] pNEJQU0tFLY-00001-00001417-00001882 today about five ways you can build your pNEJQU0tFLY-00002-00001884-00002156 confidence or what helped me build you pNEJQU0tFLY-00003-00002157-00002351 know my confidence throughout the years pNEJQU0tFLY-00004-00002352-00002683 so hopefully you enjoyed this video and pNEJQU0tFLY-00005-00002684-00003041 so let's be started one Oh No pNEJQU0tFLY-00006-00003042-00003274 each and every day make sure you look in pNEJQU0tFLY-00007-00003275-00003517 that mirror face that man or that woman pNEJQU0tFLY-00008-00003518-00003860 that you see in that mirror that's gonna pNEJQU0tFLY-00009-00003861-00004064 be your biggest enemy that's gonna be pNEJQU0tFLY-00010-00004065-00004487 your biggest supporter in life so you pNEJQU0tFLY-00011-00004488-00004694 always have to you know looking at pNEJQU0tFLY-00012-00004695-00005153 mirror and you know to yourself to tell pNEJQU0tFLY-00013-00005154-00005360 yourself that you important to yourself pNEJQU0tFLY-00014-00005361-00005651 that you're beautiful if you need or you pNEJQU0tFLY-00015-00005652-00005894 want to self-improve you like the area pNEJQU0tFLY-00016-00005895-00006158 and you're like a mini you know be pNEJQU0tFLY-00017-00006159-00006448 honest with yourself it's okay and it's pNEJQU0tFLY-00018-00006450-00006653 better to come from you come with me pNEJQU0tFLY-00019-00006654-00007001 there's someone else so if you know you pNEJQU0tFLY-00020-00007002-00007306 you know a little weight then uh a pNEJQU0tFLY-00021-00007308-00007637 subnet and you know come up with a plan pNEJQU0tFLY-00022-00007638-00008117 to you know to get back to your best pNEJQU0tFLY-00023-00008118-00008657 self you know so like when I was you pNEJQU0tFLY-00024-00008658-00008878 know for me you know what I want to get pNEJQU0tFLY-00025-00008879-00009158 workout you know I had to kind of stuff pNEJQU0tFLY-00026-00009159-00009325 that as a fact I'm like you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00027-00009326-00009637 had the body that I really won't and I pNEJQU0tFLY-00028-00009638-00009838 have to do something about it pNEJQU0tFLY-00029-00009839-00010228 you know so and so I knew it was gonna pNEJQU0tFLY-00030-00010229-00010642 take time but that's what you have to do pNEJQU0tFLY-00031-00010643-00010978 and over time it builds on yourself the pNEJQU0tFLY-00032-00010979-00011206 confidence grow and it's gonna grow into pNEJQU0tFLY-00033-00011207-00011650 other areas as well so anyway stick with pNEJQU0tFLY-00034-00011651-00012049 me throughout the day or throughout this pNEJQU0tFLY-00035-00012050-00012549 workout and I get with you the other pNEJQU0tFLY-00036-00012550-00015262 confidence building pNEJQU0tFLY-00037-00015263-00015755 I'm medicine ball today like I said I pNEJQU0tFLY-00038-00015756-00016159 try to focus on all aspects of my body pNEJQU0tFLY-00039-00016160-00019024 when I work out pNEJQU0tFLY-00040-00019025-00019302 how often are y'all getting to the gym pNEJQU0tFLY-00041-00019303-00019692 anyway that goes into my second pNEJQU0tFLY-00042-00019693-00019849 confidence builder pNEJQU0tFLY-00043-00019850-00020155 committing to your health and basically pNEJQU0tFLY-00044-00020156-00020659 you know that simple as eating and pNEJQU0tFLY-00045-00020660-00020884 working out on a daily basis pNEJQU0tFLY-00046-00020885-00021118 you got just one body you got this one pNEJQU0tFLY-00047-00021119-00021661 temple and you have to develop it you pNEJQU0tFLY-00048-00021662-00022150 have to take care of it or else it's pNEJQU0tFLY-00049-00022151-00022333 gonna you know let you down you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00050-00022334-00022597 there's someone that's working the pNEJQU0tFLY-00051-00022598-00022822 health care industry you know that ever pNEJQU0tFLY-00052-00022823-00023113 since you know leading college I see the pNEJQU0tFLY-00053-00023114-00023392 negative impact when you don't take care pNEJQU0tFLY-00054-00023393-00023680 of your body you know people you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00055-00023681-00023941 it's like a revolving door at the pNEJQU0tFLY-00056-00023942-00024106 hospital and I see and I guess the same pNEJQU0tFLY-00057-00024107-00024325 old same old people that just keep pNEJQU0tFLY-00058-00024326-00024583 coming in and out and I would truly pNEJQU0tFLY-00059-00024584-00024906 believe most of it could just be pNEJQU0tFLY-00060-00024907-00025261 prevented but you just have to take care pNEJQU0tFLY-00061-00025262-00025477 of yourself and I can say this come in pNEJQU0tFLY-00062-00025478-00025837 to eating right you know you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00063-00025838-00026293 cooking majority your foods even more pNEJQU0tFLY-00064-00026294-00026633 vegetables and I'm drinking more water pNEJQU0tFLY-00065-00026635-00026986 compared to drinking soda and you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00066-00026987-00027223 at least working out at least 30 minutes pNEJQU0tFLY-00067-00027224-00027645 a day and I say you can find plenty of pNEJQU0tFLY-00068-00027647-00027999 ways to if you got a busy schedule pNEJQU0tFLY-00069-00028000-00028155 supplement pNEJQU0tFLY-00070-00028156-00028474 the lack of work out like I said welcome pNEJQU0tFLY-00071-00028475-00028801 around the office that's a good way you pNEJQU0tFLY-00072-00028802-00029008 know every 30 minutes every hour just pNEJQU0tFLY-00073-00029008-00029190 you know just walk around the office pNEJQU0tFLY-00074-00029191-00029581 field so like I say meal prep room pNEJQU0tFLY-00075-00029582-00029980 really helped me you know to take my pNEJQU0tFLY-00076-00029981-00030240 fitness to the next level anyway so pNEJQU0tFLY-00078-00035197-00036493 [Music] pNEJQU0tFLY-00079-00036494-00037094 all right so three thrace got commit to pNEJQU0tFLY-00080-00037095-00037391 self-improvement and what that is and pNEJQU0tFLY-00081-00037392-00037690 never want to give you confidence pNEJQU0tFLY-00082-00037691-00037915 because like I say it's just stuff pNEJQU0tFLY-00083-00037916-00038065 improving but you're still as bad pNEJQU0tFLY-00084-00038066-00038285 so but what self-improvement look like pNEJQU0tFLY-00085-00038286-00038843 is reading days you know working out but pNEJQU0tFLY-00086-00038844-00039380 really the aspects is freeing and going pNEJQU0tFLY-00087-00039381-00039617 like self motivation the reasons wanna pNEJQU0tFLY-00088-00039618-00040054 help come up with new ideas new words pNEJQU0tFLY-00089-00040055-00040652 new languages and manases gonna help you pNEJQU0tFLY-00090-00040653-00040877 you know and whatever aspects that you pNEJQU0tFLY-00091-00040878-00041387 need help with you know so for me once I pNEJQU0tFLY-00092-00041388-00041660 started you know reading more and listen pNEJQU0tFLY-00093-00041661-00042080 to more of motivational videos peers who pNEJQU0tFLY-00094-00042081-00042395 just listened to you know you know music pNEJQU0tFLY-00095-00042396-00042710 all day or you know watching Netflix all pNEJQU0tFLY-00096-00042711-00043088 day I like these motivational videos pNEJQU0tFLY-00097-00043089-00043315 help me with like I said start writing pNEJQU0tFLY-00098-00043316-00043670 you know so I noticed now I'm a ten pNEJQU0tFLY-00099-00043671-00043907 times hundred times better writer you pNEJQU0tFLY-00100-00043908-00044078 know writing poetry and I guess they pNEJQU0tFLY-00101-00044079-00044318 just know stuff just coming out my head pNEJQU0tFLY-00102-00044319-00044665 always wanted to kind of write a book or pNEJQU0tFLY-00103-00044666-00044918 you know like a book of poetry and now I pNEJQU0tFLY-00104-00044919-00045302 just I just this is spewing out you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00105-00045303-00045490 I just almost can't help it pNEJQU0tFLY-00106-00045491-00045749 how much stuff is just coming out and I pNEJQU0tFLY-00107-00045750-00045860 really just like I said it's just pNEJQU0tFLY-00108-00045861-00046058 started we're just you know this in the pNEJQU0tFLY-00109-00046059-00046334 motivational videos you know come in to pNEJQU0tFLY-00110-00046335-00046768 reading you know at least hour a day and pNEJQU0tFLY-00111-00046769-00046904 you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00112-00046905-00047054 just and focus and like you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00113-00047055-00047504 committing to to my excellence so and pNEJQU0tFLY-00114-00047505-00047720 I'd like to say I definitely know that pNEJQU0tFLY-00115-00047721-00048115 helps with the confidence you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00116-00048116-00048274 because like I say give you a belief pNEJQU0tFLY-00117-00048275-00048485 that you can truly do anything because pNEJQU0tFLY-00118-00048486-00048701 you know that you're running to put in pNEJQU0tFLY-00119-00048702-00048974 at work that sacrifice that commitment pNEJQU0tFLY-00120-00048975-00049186 and dedication and discipline that it pNEJQU0tFLY-00121-00049187-00049499 takes for self-improvement anyway let me pNEJQU0tFLY-00123-00052504-00052919 that's that any representative for knife pNEJQU0tFLY-00124-00052920-00053104 you make sure y'all give me the card no pNEJQU0tFLY-00125-00053105-00053357 I'm looking establish when y'all get her pNEJQU0tFLY-00126-00053358-00053729 so y'all much book go ahead and just go pNEJQU0tFLY-00127-00053729-00054004 ahead and provide it for me might as pNEJQU0tFLY-00128-00054005-00054350 well I don't think you'll find anyone pNEJQU0tFLY-00129-00054351-00054754 that's rockin this better than I do so I pNEJQU0tFLY-00130-00054755-00055223 guarantee that anyway I'm gonna get back pNEJQU0tFLY-00131-00055224-00056208 to this workout pNEJQU0tFLY-00132-00056209-00056685 oh it's a big important especially since pNEJQU0tFLY-00133-00056686-00056985 Valentine's Day is coming up now sensual pNEJQU0tFLY-00134-00056986-00057237 I can see it self-improvement you pNEJQU0tFLY-00135-00057238-00057363 committed to your health you're pNEJQU0tFLY-00136-00057364-00057885 committed to you know working out it's pNEJQU0tFLY-00137-00057886-00058149 going to like I say increase your sex pNEJQU0tFLY-00138-00058150-00058479 life you know and you're gonna just have pNEJQU0tFLY-00139-00058479-00059169 the confidence to to withstand the women pNEJQU0tFLY-00140-00059170-00059439 attitude sometimes you know there could pNEJQU0tFLY-00141-00059440-00059751 be but you not eat you will be so pNEJQU0tFLY-00142-00059752-00059970 patient you're gonna be so disciplined a pNEJQU0tFLY-00143-00059971-00060270 you're not even gonna allow it to bother pNEJQU0tFLY-00144-00060271-00060327 you pNEJQU0tFLY-00145-00060328-00060572 and that's gonna love them to calm down pNEJQU0tFLY-00146-00060573-00061098 you know to gauge your energy and like I pNEJQU0tFLY-00147-00061099-00061307 said since you've been working out you pNEJQU0tFLY-00148-00061308-00061833 know your your stamina it's gonna be a pNEJQU0tFLY-00149-00061834-00062022 lot higher - Chester would be a lot pNEJQU0tFLY-00150-00062023-00062421 higher so it's gonna allow you to go pNEJQU0tFLY-00151-00062422-00062712 longer and bigger satisfy her without pNEJQU0tFLY-00152-00062713-00063066 popping pills because those are your pNEJQU0tFLY-00153-00063066-00063392 short-term effects you know life you pNEJQU0tFLY-00154-00063394-00063570 know you won't have to always pop those pNEJQU0tFLY-00155-00063571-00064065 pills or whatever you know and you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00156-00064066-00064428 so this is the true natural way and like pNEJQU0tFLY-00157-00064429-00064698 I say you can just you know be able to pNEJQU0tFLY-00158-00064699-00064938 satisfy her a lot better you know I do pNEJQU0tFLY-00159-00064939-00065129 babe satisfy yourself to be good you pNEJQU0tFLY-00160-00065130-00065361 know you know you're gonna be doing a pNEJQU0tFLY-00161-00065362-00065625 really excellent job you know and please pNEJQU0tFLY-00162-00065626-00065943 you know and you know bring come back pNEJQU0tFLY-00163-00065944-00066156 and I know this not taught before that pNEJQU0tFLY-00164-00066157-00066438 but I mean like I said Valentine's Day pNEJQU0tFLY-00165-00066439-00066792 coming up fellas saying you know is you pNEJQU0tFLY-00166-00066793-00067161 know working out he's like I said it's pNEJQU0tFLY-00167-00067162-00067425 important before it airs not just for pNEJQU0tFLY-00168-00067426-00067638 that one for you simple but as a big pNEJQU0tFLY-00170-00073411-00073933 core exercise is finished for now so pNEJQU0tFLY-00171-00073934-00074335 it's time to do some squat and bench pNEJQU0tFLY-00172-00074336-00074791 press so like I said today I focus on my pNEJQU0tFLY-00173-00074792-00075060 abs a lot but now that I say it's time pNEJQU0tFLY-00174-00075061-00075475 to do the squats which the hard part but pNEJQU0tFLY-00175-00075476-00075595 make me feel good and make me feel pNEJQU0tFLY-00176-00075596-00075982 strong so I suggested you know you do pNEJQU0tFLY-00177-00075983-00076648 make sure you put your squats in so so I pNEJQU0tFLY-00178-00076649-00076956 guess I tell you number for pNEJQU0tFLY-00179-00076957-00077965 confidence-building Innis tayo you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00180-00077966-00078166 kind of focus on with your creative pNEJQU0tFLY-00181-00078167-00078670 outlet and you know explore your ideas pNEJQU0tFLY-00182-00078671-00079102 so anytime you know idea coming your pNEJQU0tFLY-00183-00079103-00079548 head you know write it down you know and pNEJQU0tFLY-00184-00079549-00079911 explore it's like okay I'm right here pNEJQU0tFLY-00185-00079912-00080356 what I need to get to point B and you pNEJQU0tFLY-00186-00080357-00080596 know you don't have to write down every pNEJQU0tFLY-00187-00080597-00080833 steps to get to point B but what is the pNEJQU0tFLY-00188-00080834-00081262 next step to get towards point B and pNEJQU0tFLY-00189-00081263-00081505 then once you get to that step I mean pNEJQU0tFLY-00190-00081506-00081676 you're like okay what's the next step to pNEJQU0tFLY-00191-00081677-00081880 get to point you know to get closer to pNEJQU0tFLY-00192-00081881-00082189 point B so each and every day you just pNEJQU0tFLY-00193-00082190-00082432 take your steps to get closer and closer pNEJQU0tFLY-00194-00082433-00082639 and that's gonna bill you your pNEJQU0tFLY-00195-00082640-00082786 confidence because you gonna be able to pNEJQU0tFLY-00196-00082787-00083017 look back you know week later two weeks pNEJQU0tFLY-00197-00083018-00083323 later I'm not laying like damn I started pNEJQU0tFLY-00198-00083324-00083545 right here but now I'm right here I pNEJQU0tFLY-00199-00083546-00083746 could see if you go look at the first pNEJQU0tFLY-00200-00083747-00084168 youtube video you know you see how far pNEJQU0tFLY-00201-00084169-00084610 how I came just you know and you know in pNEJQU0tFLY-00202-00084611-00084952 my content but also know where I live it pNEJQU0tFLY-00203-00084953-00085162 you know and just you know I feel like pNEJQU0tFLY-00204-00085163-00085312 everything about me and it's just not pNEJQU0tFLY-00205-00085313-00085558 even just the last three four months pNEJQU0tFLY-00206-00085559-00085779 it's just the last you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00207-00085780-00085974 years I just always pushed myself to pNEJQU0tFLY-00208-00085975-00086300 just you know go go go over to change pNEJQU0tFLY-00209-00086301-00086574 and change no matter how hard or you pNEJQU0tFLY-00210-00086575-00086928 know math no matter how much fear I feel pNEJQU0tFLY-00211-00086929-00087204 at that moment like the book said feel pNEJQU0tFLY-00212-00087205-00088151 the fear and do it anyway pNEJQU0tFLY-00214-00091607-00091975 come look I got two more sets of squats pNEJQU0tFLY-00215-00091976-00092384 and again I got you know four sets of pNEJQU0tFLY-00216-00092385-00092615 benchpress so stay with me if you all pNEJQU0tFLY-00217-00092616-00092962 watched this entire video most likely pNEJQU0tFLY-00218-00092963-00093203 most people only watch like two three pNEJQU0tFLY-00219-00093204-00093382 minutes that's another way you can pNEJQU0tFLY-00220-00093383-00093548 actually stuff improve when I first saw pNEJQU0tFLY-00221-00093549-00093680 her watching youtube videos pNEJQU0tFLY-00222-00093681-00094016 yeah I couldn't see through two minutes pNEJQU0tFLY-00223-00094017-00094357 of listening to someone else talk but I pNEJQU0tFLY-00224-00094358-00094673 blah you know interviews or anything you pNEJQU0tFLY-00225-00094674-00095200 know well over time you know I knew I pNEJQU0tFLY-00226-00095201-00095528 had to you know in order to self the pNEJQU0tFLY-00227-00095529-00095906 bellows so you might you know like hey pNEJQU0tFLY-00228-00095907-00096016 watch out pNEJQU0tFLY-00229-00096017-00096356 watch this entire video watch this pNEJQU0tFLY-00230-00096357-00096566 entire video because it could be the pNEJQU0tFLY-00231-00096567-00096815 last how many or it could be only five pNEJQU0tFLY-00232-00096816-00097112 minutes of content that you got out of pNEJQU0tFLY-00233-00097113-00097304 but you don't know which five minutes pNEJQU0tFLY-00234-00097305-00097481 you know sometimes like watch the pNEJQU0tFLY-00235-00097482-00097805 interviews and like just you know one pNEJQU0tFLY-00236-00097806-00098021 word just really stuck out to me like pNEJQU0tFLY-00237-00098022-00098344 damn I'm glad I watched that video just pNEJQU0tFLY-00238-00098345-00098551 for this you know one word or this one pNEJQU0tFLY-00239-00098552-00098765 phrase or just you know really hit my pNEJQU0tFLY-00240-00098766-00099013 soul really hit my spirit which I just pNEJQU0tFLY-00241-00099014-00100823 needed at that moment pNEJQU0tFLY-00242-00100824-00101106 and you know my last set with my spots pNEJQU0tFLY-00243-00101107-00101244 and benchpress pNEJQU0tFLY-00244-00101245-00101583 I do more than I normally do so when I pNEJQU0tFLY-00245-00101584-00101871 do sets the tents do not do you assess pNEJQU0tFLY-00246-00101872-00102342 to 12 of 6:15 so you know for my last pNEJQU0tFLY-00247-00102343-00102831 one so that's yeah maxing out right so pNEJQU0tFLY-00248-00102832-00103047 write some songs below comment some pNEJQU0tFLY-00249-00103048-00103296 songs below I can you know download some pNEJQU0tFLY-00250-00103297-00103446 new music or something and you know I pNEJQU0tFLY-00252-00107789-00108823 [Music] pNEJQU0tFLY-00253-00108824-00109124 so as a kid I wanted to be like probably pNEJQU0tFLY-00254-00109125-00109300 like everybody else so a lot of people pNEJQU0tFLY-00255-00109301-00109834 artists or rapper all this you know and pNEJQU0tFLY-00256-00109835-00110108 I just used to like write lyrics all the pNEJQU0tFLY-00257-00110108-00110795 time you know so but now I guess pNEJQU0tFLY-00258-00110796-00110948 happening right move down my own lyrics pNEJQU0tFLY-00259-00110949-00111581 my own you know poetry so I'm definitely pNEJQU0tFLY-00260-00111582-00111854 you know playing it to kind of like pNEJQU0tFLY-00261-00111855-00112316 build up my writing and probably drop pNEJQU0tFLY-00262-00112317-00112616 like a book of poetry something like pNEJQU0tFLY-00263-00112617-00113011 that so so I'm like I say I'm putting it pNEJQU0tFLY-00264-00113013-00113189 out there so I can kind of hold myself pNEJQU0tFLY-00265-00113190-00113458 accountable for y'all called me pNEJQU0tFLY-00266-00113459-00113639 accountable for and I gotta say just pNEJQU0tFLY-00267-00113640-00113860 let's keep moving no that's what that's pNEJQU0tFLY-00268-00113861-00114089 what life is all about keep moving keep pNEJQU0tFLY-00269-00114090-00114361 approval okay pNEJQU0tFLY-00270-00114363-00114596 feel free to learn yourself or to build pNEJQU0tFLY-00271-00114597-00114815 confidence is basically to love yourself pNEJQU0tFLY-00272-00114816-00114998 you know before you can love others like pNEJQU0tFLY-00273-00114999-00115223 they say you gotta love yourself so when pNEJQU0tFLY-00274-00115224-00115448 you're looking at mirror when you commit pNEJQU0tFLY-00275-00115449-00115907 to health when you commit to you know pNEJQU0tFLY-00276-00115908-00116222 self-improvement when you commit to you pNEJQU0tFLY-00277-00116223-00116405 know creating your ideas pNEJQU0tFLY-00278-00116406-00116672 you won't definitely feel more more pNEJQU0tFLY-00279-00116673-00116948 loved each and every day they're gonna pNEJQU0tFLY-00280-00116949-00117131 be too much love that you give yourself pNEJQU0tFLY-00281-00117132-00117641 some time so but that's kind of like the pNEJQU0tFLY-00282-00117642-00117977 best part so I guess a commit to loving pNEJQU0tFLY-00283-00117978-00118552 yourself and finished yourself and pNEJQU0tFLY-00284-00118553-00119784 [Music] pp0JQgNGnw0-00000-00000917-00001345 about one reactor one official flow pp0JQgNGnw0-00001-00001346-00001612 reactor but we also have that definition pp0JQgNGnw0-00002-00001613-00001841 of saying that when you have infinite pp0JQgNGnw0-00003-00001842-00002012 number of tanks in series you will get pp0JQgNGnw0-00004-00002013-00002297 plug flow you will know again see that pp0JQgNGnw0-00005-00002298-00002504 from the actual reactions there is one pp0JQgNGnw0-00006-00002505-00002696 or the calculators at least few of you pp0JQgNGnw0-00007-00002697-00002888 yeah I think let us solve one problem pp0JQgNGnw0-00008-00002889-00003131 then you will know how beautifully what pp0JQgNGnw0-00009-00003132-00003220 we said is right pp0JQgNGnw0-00010-00003221-00003472 so here we will get to okay first order pp0JQgNGnw0-00011-00003473-00004334 reaction again simple first order pp0JQgNGnw0-00012-00004335-00004574 reaction so then I have to first draw pp0JQgNGnw0-00013-00004575-00007343 the tanks in series pp0JQgNGnw0-00014-00007344-00007895 okay I have n this maybe I minus 1 sorry pp0JQgNGnw0-00015-00007897-00008538 I so this is 1 2 and here I house here pp0JQgNGnw0-00016-00008539-00009072 not entering this is CA n and here maybe pp0JQgNGnw0-00017-00009073-00009312 v NT v pp0JQgNGnw0-00018-00009313-00009662 likkle phase reactions for starter pp0JQgNGnw0-00019-00009663-00009885 because he has TR most of the time use pp0JQgNGnw0-00020-00009886-00010269 liquid phase reactions and to write this pp0JQgNGnw0-00021-00010270-00010953 I have V 1 V 2 V I V n where all of them pp0JQgNGnw0-00022-00010954-00011295 are equal that means equal volumes you pp0JQgNGnw0-00023-00011296-00011826 are taking equal volumes you are taking pp0JQgNGnw0-00024-00011827-00012296 so now we will define our tau tau I as pp0JQgNGnw0-00025-00012297-00012843 volume of I divided by volumetric flow pp0JQgNGnw0-00026-00012844-00013116 rate okay V is constant throat actually pp0JQgNGnw0-00027-00013116-00013347 try to find out what is the total of pp0JQgNGnw0-00028-00013347-00014022 equal to n into in one tank I in one pp0JQgNGnw0-00029-00014022-00014447 tank I have VI by V and in this many pp0JQgNGnw0-00030-00014448-00014790 tanks you have total so this is nothing pp0JQgNGnw0-00031-00014791-00015732 but M into VI by V by V so this n times pp0JQgNGnw0-00032-00015733-00016188 VI also I can take total V where V equal pp0JQgNGnw0-00033-00016188-00016547 to Sigma of VI pp0JQgNGnw0-00034-00016548-00017055 there are two one two yeah okay so this pp0JQgNGnw0-00035-00017056-00017241 is what is again convenient you know pp0JQgNGnw0-00036-00017242-00017622 writing right so this was summation okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00037-00017623-00017853 good so this is the one just to start pp0JQgNGnw0-00038-00017854-00018057 with and let us have that we have a pp0JQgNGnw0-00039-00018058-00018182 first order reaction pp0JQgNGnw0-00040-00018183-00018564 okay liquid phase and I would like to pp0JQgNGnw0-00041-00018565-00018777 write the balance for this idea is to pp0JQgNGnw0-00042-00018778-00019488 find out what is ca n by CA naught which pp0JQgNGnw0-00043-00019489-00020222 is nothing about XA equal to what okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00044-00020223-00020299 conversion pp0JQgNGnw0-00045-00020300-00020518 to find out what is the commotion that pp0JQgNGnw0-00046-00020519-00020878 is coming out CNBC or not okay good so pp0JQgNGnw0-00047-00020879-00021076 that means I have to know who write this pp0JQgNGnw0-00048-00021077-00021352 equation as other symbols also this one pp0JQgNGnw0-00049-00021353-00021799 is C an art and coming out is what Co pp0JQgNGnw0-00050-00021800-00022117 one and now CN is entering here this is pp0JQgNGnw0-00051-00022118-00022669 C a2 and here I have CA I minus 1 and pp0JQgNGnw0-00052-00022670-00023376 this is CAI and here I have ta n minus 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00053-00023377-00023716 yeah so those are the all things now let pp0JQgNGnw0-00054-00023717-00023887 us write the material balance for first pp0JQgNGnw0-00055-00023888-00024409 reactor it is V into CN r v CA 1 leaving pp0JQgNGnw0-00056-00024410-00024711 this is input output reaction pp0JQgNGnw0-00057-00024712-00024978 accumulation and this is steady state pp0JQgNGnw0-00058-00024979-00025342 okay I think I out also member force in pp0JQgNGnw0-00059-00025343-00025965 series first order I can also write here pp0JQgNGnw0-00060-00025966-00026563 steady state okay so that's why pp0JQgNGnw0-00061-00026564-00026727 accumulation term will be 0 this is ìhow pp0JQgNGnw0-00062-00026729-00027226 - Arya into that is KC a case here 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00063-00027227-00027633 into V it is not total V actually it is pp0JQgNGnw0-00064-00027635-00028057 I will write here this is V dashed these pp0JQgNGnw0-00065-00028058-00028156 also be dashed pp0JQgNGnw0-00066-00028157-00028558 now all this equal to V each one equal pp0JQgNGnw0-00067-00028558-00029032 to V ok so we - they equal to Sigma of V pp0JQgNGnw0-00068-00029033-00029443 a that's ok or Sigma of V also I can pp0JQgNGnw0-00069-00029444-00029783 write always are you mean to me pp0JQgNGnw0-00070-00029785-00030151 ok good so now this this I will write pp0JQgNGnw0-00071-00030152-00030321 for one reactor because of each one has pp0JQgNGnw0-00072-00030322-00030673 we all these are equal to me for easy pp0JQgNGnw0-00073-00030674-00030927 thing so now can you tell me what is CA pp0JQgNGnw0-00074-00030929-00032027 1 by CA naught one by one pp0JQgNGnw0-00075-00032029-00032364 yeah so now done also I will take that pp0JQgNGnw0-00076-00032366-00032788 you know this is V dumb dope right so pp0JQgNGnw0-00077-00032789-00032989 then I out light this one has toe - then pp0JQgNGnw0-00078-00032990-00033117 okay sorry pp0JQgNGnw0-00079-00033118-00033544 that one has toe - okay then I will pp0JQgNGnw0-00080-00033545-00034048 define tau as K tau where tau equal to V pp0JQgNGnw0-00081-00034049-00034546 by V I think you make that corrections - pp0JQgNGnw0-00082-00034547-00034774 - and all that okay so now this is pp0JQgNGnw0-00083-00034775-00035155 equation one equation - this is okay no pp0JQgNGnw0-00084-00035156-00035266 equation yeah pp0JQgNGnw0-00085-00035267-00035497 similarly for second one this is for n pp0JQgNGnw0-00086-00035498-00035847 equal to 1 for n equal to 2 pp0JQgNGnw0-00087-00035848-00036313 can you write on your own now can you pp0JQgNGnw0-00088-00036314-00036898 write on your oh no otherwise you tell pp0JQgNGnw0-00089-00036899-00037100 me I will ray pp0JQgNGnw0-00090-00037101-00037664 we into year 1 equal to V into see here pp0JQgNGnw0-00091-00037665-00038431 2 plus K CA 2 to see a 2 into V again pp0JQgNGnw0-00092-00038432-00038813 all right no so what is this equation in pp0JQgNGnw0-00093-00038814-00040010 terms of T a 2 by C a1 equal to so again pp0JQgNGnw0-00094-00040011-00040307 4 here 4 seconds later also you have 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00095-00040308-00040532 by 1 plus K tau but besides the pp0JQgNGnw0-00096-00040533-00040808 concentration ok similarly now we don't pp0JQgNGnw0-00097-00040809-00041027 have to write for everything now it BCCI pp0JQgNGnw0-00098-00041028-00041816 3 by C a2 will be again 1 by 1 plus K pp0JQgNGnw0-00099-00041817-00042020 tau so similarly when I write all these pp0JQgNGnw0-00100-00042021-00042746 I have CA n minus 1 by CI n equal to 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00101-00042747-00043196 by 1 plus thank you thank you thank you pp0JQgNGnw0-00102-00043197-00043564 thank you very good n minus 1 equal to 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00103-00043565-00044168 by 1 plus K tau so now I would like to pp0JQgNGnw0-00104-00044169-00044479 only find out this one pp0JQgNGnw0-00105-00044480-00044798 CIN so I can now multiply all this you pp0JQgNGnw0-00106-00044799-00045530 know in fact I have CA here 1 by C an pp0JQgNGnw0-00107-00045531-00046336 art C a2 by C a1 so like that we have CA pp0JQgNGnw0-00108-00046337-00046856 n by CA n minus 1 and here I will have pp0JQgNGnw0-00109-00046857-00047291 say n minus 1 so you can cancel or if pp0JQgNGnw0-00110-00047292-00047420 you want you can write one more this is pp0JQgNGnw0-00111-00047421-00048065 ca 3 by CA 2 so like that you will get pp0JQgNGnw0-00112-00048066-00048761 this one as CA 0 which is equal to now I pp0JQgNGnw0-00113-00048762-00049280 have n number of terms will have 1 by K pp0JQgNGnw0-00114-00049281-00049766 tau to the power of Y n ok so if I write pp0JQgNGnw0-00115-00049767-00050501 the equation this is or 5 6 this is 7 pp0JQgNGnw0-00116-00050502-00050975 okay so this equation also ocam by you pp0JQgNGnw0-00117-00050976-00051182 know can also be written in terms of pp0JQgNGnw0-00118-00051183-00051778 total time 1 plus K tau dash by n pp0JQgNGnw0-00119-00051779-00052516 character over equal to tau and tau dash pp0JQgNGnw0-00120-00052517-00052808 equal to nth oh okay so that is the one pp0JQgNGnw0-00121-00052809-00053069 so this equation we can nicely convert pp0JQgNGnw0-00122-00053070-00054140 into K tau dash n equal to yeah so 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00123-00054141-00054683 minus X a to the power of minus 1 by n pp0JQgNGnw0-00124-00054684-00054995 minus 1 this one I have written here pp0JQgNGnw0-00125-00054996-00055520 this is also equal to 1 minus XA n right pp0JQgNGnw0-00126-00055521-00056079 so this is equation 8 this is equation a pp0JQgNGnw0-00127-00056080-00056860 must be exhale only pp0JQgNGnw0-00128-00056861-00057237 so now this equation for n equal to 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00129-00057238-00057493 what is the equation so that means I pp0JQgNGnw0-00130-00057494-00057766 have only just one reactor n equal to 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00131-00057767-00057929 that means all these things are not pp0JQgNGnw0-00132-00057929-00058312 there so for n equal to 1 K tau dash pp0JQgNGnw0-00133-00058313-00059107 equal to 2 1 by 1 by 1 minus X a X a 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00134-00059108-00059329 for example okay that's all I think this pp0JQgNGnw0-00135-00059330-00059885 is - I am simply substituting that one pp0JQgNGnw0-00136-00059886-00059944 there yes pp0JQgNGnw0-00137-00059945-00060313 now tell me for 95% the conversion for pp0JQgNGnw0-00138-00060314-00060665 XA equal to rx a what from this I am pp0JQgNGnw0-00139-00060666-00060856 talking about I am talking about one pp0JQgNGnw0-00140-00060857-00061109 reactor where I have 90% conversion what pp0JQgNGnw0-00141-00061110-00061499 is the volume of the reactor that means pp0JQgNGnw0-00142-00061500-00061661 of course K value pp0JQgNGnw0-00143-00061662-00061859 I do not have to separate KQ I'm gonna pp0JQgNGnw0-00144-00061860-00062143 assume that to unity also so I have XA pp0JQgNGnw0-00145-00062144-00062591 equal to 0.95 what is K tau dashed that pp0JQgNGnw0-00146-00062591-00063010 is a measure of volume 94 you shall pp0JQgNGnw0-00147-00063011-00063493 99.99 0 okay so this is nice no for n pp0JQgNGnw0-00148-00063494-00064069 equal to 2 tell me no K tau dash by 2 pp0JQgNGnw0-00149-00064070-00064484 because n is there in equal to 2 but now pp0JQgNGnw0-00150-00064485-00065090 this one is 1 by 1 minus XA 2 to the pp0JQgNGnw0-00151-00065091-00065361 power of oh that's a correct no minus pp0JQgNGnw0-00152-00065362-00065948 1/2 Sixpoint yeah any other things pp0JQgNGnw0-00153-00065949-00066142 always puja and thereby and only telly pp0JQgNGnw0-00154-00066143-00066434 somewhere that camera I'm Krishna you pp0JQgNGnw0-00155-00066435-00067121 don't have calculator money can't tell pp0JQgNGnw0-00156-00067122-00068206 me fix up your own pp0JQgNGnw0-00157-00068207-00068785 mental calculation proximately pp0JQgNGnw0-00158-00068786-00069065 approximately I think okay good so this pp0JQgNGnw0-00159-00069066-00069479 will be K tall dashed is its point nine pp0JQgNGnw0-00160-00069480-00069628 four pp0JQgNGnw0-00161-00069629-00069979 now tell me for n equal to 3 pp0JQgNGnw0-00162-00069980-00070265 okay tau dash for the system is five pp0JQgNGnw0-00163-00070266-00071149 point one four okay for n equal to four pp0JQgNGnw0-00164-00071150-00071767 four point four point four five pp0JQgNGnw0-00165-00071768-00072778 ok so now n equal to six pp0JQgNGnw0-00166-00072779-00073184 excellent three point eight eight okay n pp0JQgNGnw0-00167-00073185-00073874 equal to infinity yeah I know this pp0JQgNGnw0-00168-00073875-00074435 answer which is wrong what do you what pp0JQgNGnw0-00169-00074436-00074911 do you mean by n equal to infinity pp0JQgNGnw0-00170-00074912-00075191 you are talking mathematics I am talking pp0JQgNGnw0-00171-00075192-00075751 physics excellent pfr so what is the pp0JQgNGnw0-00172-00075752-00075929 conversion in a PFR pp0JQgNGnw0-00173-00075930-00076160 for first-order reaction chemical dearie pp0JQgNGnw0-00174-00076161-00076310 freedom is your straight I am going to pp0JQgNGnw0-00175-00076311-00076511 mathematics only one person sitting pp0JQgNGnw0-00176-00076512-00076684 there who are thinking like me physics pp0JQgNGnw0-00177-00076685-00077122 right so ona equal to infinity when pp0JQgNGnw0-00178-00077123-00077336 infinite number of Tanks when you put pp0JQgNGnw0-00179-00077337-00077531 together we know that that is going to pp0JQgNGnw0-00180-00077532-00077774 go to plug flow so now what is the pp0JQgNGnw0-00181-00077775-00077942 equation for first order reaction the pp0JQgNGnw0-00182-00077943-00078268 could phase you know equation for plug pp0JQgNGnw0-00183-00078269-00078856 flow you could do yeah exactly pp0JQgNGnw0-00184-00078857-00079121 that is the was okay for n equal to pp0JQgNGnw0-00185-00079122-00079718 infinity we have lon 1 minus XA equal to pp0JQgNGnw0-00186-00079719-00080036 minus K tau Kato - because that is the pp0JQgNGnw0-00187-00080037-00080674 total volume there how much is that pp0JQgNGnw0-00188-00080675-00081098 my name's coupon I think that is 3 so pp0JQgNGnw0-00189-00081099-00081629 Kaito here Kate oh yeah 3 so what can pp0JQgNGnw0-00190-00081630-00081833 you predict from this we'll have all the pp0JQgNGnw0-00191-00081834-00082247 results which one is decreasing KZ K is pp0JQgNGnw0-00192-00082248-00082478 constant for you know the reaction you pp0JQgNGnw0-00193-00082479-00082742 know whether you have one yeah I mean pp0JQgNGnw0-00194-00082743-00083021 Kaito he said hey Kaito when you say by pp0JQgNGnw0-00195-00083022-00083257 the way what is the name of Kaito number pp0JQgNGnw0-00196-00083258-00083462 damkohler number what is the general pp0JQgNGnw0-00197-00083463-00083801 definition of damkohler number what is pp0JQgNGnw0-00198-00083802-00083926 the spelling of damkohler number pp0JQgNGnw0-00199-00083927-00084683 damkohler in fact there is that load the pp0JQgNGnw0-00200-00084684-00085268 cola okay germans damkohler number yeah pp0JQgNGnw0-00201-00085269-00086012 what is the definition K tau C n R n pp0JQgNGnw0-00202-00086013-00086219 minus one so for first order it will be pp0JQgNGnw0-00203-00086220-00086585 K tau for second order it will be K pp0JQgNGnw0-00204-00086586-00086848 tosya not that again naturally it falls pp0JQgNGnw0-00205-00086849-00087158 if you see the second order equation for pp0JQgNGnw0-00206-00087159-00087409 plug flow what we have written you know pp0JQgNGnw0-00207-00087410-00087764 just before that that is Kaito Kaito CNR pp0JQgNGnw0-00208-00087765-00088010 what second order or first other it will pp0JQgNGnw0-00209-00088011-00088585 be Kaito for zeroth order pp0JQgNGnw0-00210-00088586-00088829 Kaito by CLI that is damkohler number pp0JQgNGnw0-00211-00088830-00089129 that gives a measure for example what is pp0JQgNGnw0-00212-00089130-00089677 the meaning of for having a large Kaito pp0JQgNGnw0-00213-00089678-00090074 when I say that I have large K tau that pp0JQgNGnw0-00214-00090075-00090388 means that I am going to get large pp0JQgNGnw0-00215-00090389-00090914 conversions conversions because know you pp0JQgNGnw0-00216-00090915-00091130 know Duncan of number so I say that this pp0JQgNGnw0-00217-00091131-00091289 reactor has larger damkohler number pp0JQgNGnw0-00218-00091290-00091564 means in that reactor without conversion pp0JQgNGnw0-00219-00091565-00091883 more okay good pp0JQgNGnw0-00220-00091884-00092129 so now here coming back to this result pp0JQgNGnw0-00221-00092130-00092267 so what do you what do you learn beyond pp0JQgNGnw0-00222-00092268-00092498 this you cannot go okay you k equal to pp0JQgNGnw0-00223-00092499-00092809 one as you know jazz for easy thing and pp0JQgNGnw0-00224-00092810-00093143 you know here I may take this one is 19 pp0JQgNGnw0-00225-00093144-00093505 meter cube as an example if k equal to 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00226-00093506-00093620 okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00227-00093621-00093917 19 meter cube here so that means in the pp0JQgNGnw0-00228-00093918-00094049 second reactor that pp0JQgNGnw0-00229-00094050-00094316 if I use three reactors for the same pp0JQgNGnw0-00230-00094317-00094562 conversion one reactor I have used 95% pp0JQgNGnw0-00231-00094563-00094601 kenosha pp0JQgNGnw0-00232-00094602-00094868 what is the volume or how to use 19 pp0JQgNGnw0-00233-00094869-00095120 meter cubed I how to use the moment now pp0JQgNGnw0-00234-00095121-00095345 I take P reactors same conversion pp0JQgNGnw0-00235-00095346-00095582 ninety-five percent you know the total pp0JQgNGnw0-00236-00095583-00095774 volume itself has become six point nine pp0JQgNGnw0-00237-00095775-00096032 and each volume volume of each reactor pp0JQgNGnw0-00238-00096033-00096227 when you are there so six point nine pp0JQgNGnw0-00239-00096228-00096515 means okay 73.5 engineering pp0JQgNGnw0-00240-00096516-00096704 approximation three point four meter pp0JQgNGnw0-00241-00096705-00096947 cube graph two reactors if I take then I pp0JQgNGnw0-00242-00096948-00097130 will get negative a percent kenosha now pp0JQgNGnw0-00243-00097131-00097394 next one five point one four cato - it pp0JQgNGnw0-00244-00097395-00097676 is total tower - le's n into tau yeah pp0JQgNGnw0-00245-00097677-00097823 you already multiplied by two because in pp0JQgNGnw0-00246-00097824-00098012 the denominator this you have so you pp0JQgNGnw0-00247-00098013-00098147 multiplied by two and then you get pp0JQgNGnw0-00248-00098148-00098315 otherwise if you write to only cared out pp0JQgNGnw0-00249-00098316-00098498 as two by two that will be three point pp0JQgNGnw0-00250-00098499-00098849 five approximately then this will be 5 pp0JQgNGnw0-00251-00098850-00098927 by 3 pp0JQgNGnw0-00252-00098928-00099422 how many 1.5 1.6 1.6 or so you see now pp0JQgNGnw0-00253-00099423-00099908 so this is the 19 individually so like pp0JQgNGnw0-00254-00099909-00100124 this which affirm one point six are 1.65 pp0JQgNGnw0-00255-00100125-00100439 i have to use three tanks in series what pp0JQgNGnw0-00256-00100440-00100745 is happening to the volumes decreasing pp0JQgNGnw0-00257-00100746-00101006 so when you put the infinite number of pp0JQgNGnw0-00258-00101007-00101326 tanks like that what will be the volume pp0JQgNGnw0-00259-00101327-00101906 almost 0 what is the meaning not flow pp0JQgNGnw0-00260-00101907-00102254 each cross-section no each cross section pp0JQgNGnw0-00261-00102255-00102452 each cross section cross section pp0JQgNGnw0-00262-00102453-00102706 thickness we cannot define almost 0 not pp0JQgNGnw0-00263-00102707-00102875 that there is no reactor that is too pp0JQgNGnw0-00264-00102876-00103202 much approximation okay we have a pp0JQgNGnw0-00265-00103203-00103407 reactor with the 3 meter people finally pp0JQgNGnw0-00266-00103408-00103732 proto volume total volume in fact this pp0JQgNGnw0-00267-00103733-00104131 divided by infinity 3 divided by pp0JQgNGnw0-00268-00104132-00104342 infinity so 3 divided of infinity is pp0JQgNGnw0-00269-00104343-00104696 still some number it is not 0 okay so pp0JQgNGnw0-00270-00104697-00104918 yeah yeah very very small one which is pp0JQgNGnw0-00271-00104919-00105299 equivalent to our one cross section see pp0JQgNGnw0-00272-00105300-00105593 beauty again for now the reason ye from pp0JQgNGnw0-00273-00105594-00106159 19 to second reactor 6.9 there is here pp0JQgNGnw0-00274-00106160-00106594 steep fall if I plot this K tau versus n pp0JQgNGnw0-00275-00106595-00107156 k2 vs n this is default from 1 to 2 from pp0JQgNGnw0-00276-00107157-00107408 2 to 3 not much pp0JQgNGnw0-00277-00107408-00107740 three to four not much you see here in pp0JQgNGnw0-00278-00107741-00108089 fact after three know after six very six pp0JQgNGnw0-00279-00108090-00108360 yeah after six how to go to infinity pp0JQgNGnw0-00280-00108361-00108736 after six is almost 3.8 a total and for pp0JQgNGnw0-00281-00108738-00108874 infinite number also we have almost pp0JQgNGnw0-00282-00108875-00109349 three okay so that is why why is the pp0JQgNGnw0-00283-00109350-00109558 first reactor has tremendous effect see pp0JQgNGnw0-00284-00109559-00109814 the moment you say higher rate the pp0JQgNGnw0-00285-00109815-00110203 volume should be smaller correct no yeah pp0JQgNGnw0-00286-00110204-00110375 that's why I'm doing I think you know we pp0JQgNGnw0-00287-00110376-00110578 have to really think about that because pp0JQgNGnw0-00288-00110579-00110750 when you say high rate what do you mean pp0JQgNGnw0-00289-00110751-00110819 by high rate pp0JQgNGnw0-00290-00110820-00110959 so atoms should be less is there pp0JQgNGnw0-00291-00110960-00111627 anything else yeah you by definition pp0JQgNGnw0-00292-00111628-00111932 this fiction flow reactor has by pp0JQgNGnw0-00293-00111933-00112274 positive my definition except you are pp0JQgNGnw0-00294-00112275-00112445 saying that you have perfect mixing and pp0JQgNGnw0-00295-00112446-00112735 through RTD you can find out in one main pp0JQgNGnw0-00296-00112736-00113035 residence time what will be the you say pp0JQgNGnw0-00297-00113036-00113188 well this is what one mean it is time pp0JQgNGnw0-00298-00113189-00113386 not home now equal to volume by a pp0JQgNGnw0-00299-00113388-00113638 volumetric flow rate of one reactor okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00300-00113639-00113969 there's only one reactor so what happens pp0JQgNGnw0-00301-00113970-00114214 is the moment you put the liquid pp0JQgNGnw0-00302-00114215-00114488 continuously there is lot of fresh pp0JQgNGnw0-00303-00114489-00114668 liquid which is going out with the world pp0JQgNGnw0-00304-00114669-00115070 liquid that's what I explained now so pp0JQgNGnw0-00305-00115071-00115325 what is mixing perfect mixing it is not pp0JQgNGnw0-00306-00115326-00115481 instantaneous reaction please remove pp0JQgNGnw0-00307-00115482-00115598 that concept from your mind pp0JQgNGnw0-00308-00115599-00115823 instantaneous reaction continuously you pp0JQgNGnw0-00309-00115824-00116024 are feeding mixing these instantaneous pp0JQgNGnw0-00310-00116025-00116225 not reaction which thing is pp0JQgNGnw0-00311-00116226-00116428 instantaneous so when mixing is pp0JQgNGnw0-00312-00116429-00116624 instantaneously concentrations will come pp0JQgNGnw0-00313-00116625-00116836 to some steady state concentration which pp0JQgNGnw0-00314-00116838-00117064 is outlet concentration but that doesn't pp0JQgNGnw0-00315-00117065-00117301 mean that everything converted on the pp0JQgNGnw0-00316-00117302-00117497 whole when I look at the outside or pp0JQgNGnw0-00317-00117498-00117719 inside also same there are molecules pp0JQgNGnw0-00318-00117720-00117938 which are just entered there are pp0JQgNGnw0-00319-00117939-00118111 molecules or packet of molecules we pp0JQgNGnw0-00320-00118113-00118298 cannot say packet of molecules which pp0JQgNGnw0-00321-00118299-00118564 have entered long time back Algirdas are pp0JQgNGnw0-00322-00118565-00118843 for all that is 95 percent conversion pp0JQgNGnw0-00323-00118844-00119156 average of all that so to maintain that pp0JQgNGnw0-00324-00119157-00119536 95 percent conversion I should use 19 pp0JQgNGnw0-00325-00119538-00119986 meter cubed when compared to plug flow pp0JQgNGnw0-00326-00119988-00120274 reactor infinity equal to plug flow pp0JQgNGnw0-00327-00120275-00120466 otherwise you may think that there is pp0JQgNGnw0-00328-00120467-00120626 another reactor called infinite reactor pp0JQgNGnw0-00329-00120627-00120802 okay this infinite we have taken pp0JQgNGnw0-00330-00120803-00121078 plug flow reactor okay so in this plug pp0JQgNGnw0-00331-00121079-00121354 flow we have to use only 3 meter cube Y pp0JQgNGnw0-00332-00121355-00121552 this is where the beauty of plug flow pp0JQgNGnw0-00333-00121553-00121849 comes by definition each and every pp0JQgNGnw0-00334-00121850-00122209 particle must be spent exactly same time pp0JQgNGnw0-00335-00122210-00122483 so conversion in the particle particle pp0JQgNGnw0-00336-00122483-00122689 means it is containing lot of molecules pp0JQgNGnw0-00337-00122690-00122965 so in every packet or particle you have pp0JQgNGnw0-00338-00122966-00123241 the same conversion when I take the pp0JQgNGnw0-00339-00123242-00123448 average and then again mix all that and pp0JQgNGnw0-00340-00123449-00123735 take the average commotion also say pp0JQgNGnw0-00341-00123736-00124138 whereas in the mixture flow I have a pp0JQgNGnw0-00342-00124139-00124300 particle which is coming with a lot of pp0JQgNGnw0-00343-00124301-00124658 molecules one quickly coming out almost pp0JQgNGnw0-00344-00124658-00124984 spending 1 minute or one second when pp0JQgNGnw0-00345-00124985-00125287 they mean is an extreme is 10 minutes so pp0JQgNGnw0-00346-00125288-00125546 if it is if I take 1 second it is true pp0JQgNGnw0-00347-00125547-00125819 the moment you put then it is a pp0JQgNGnw0-00348-00125820-00126064 continuous mixing what is continuously pp0JQgNGnw0-00349-00126065-00126194 entering you know for imagination I am pp0JQgNGnw0-00350-00126195-00126388 telling continuously you are taking out pp0JQgNGnw0-00351-00126389-00126646 you put just one drop of ink pp0JQgNGnw0-00352-00126647-00126891 instantaneously it will appear in the pp0JQgNGnw0-00353-00126892-00127015 oklet pp0JQgNGnw0-00354-00127016-00127234 you just imperiously you can check that pp0JQgNGnw0-00355-00127235-00127406 I think in our lab also when you go pp0JQgNGnw0-00356-00127407-00127657 transfer operation lab there is that pp0JQgNGnw0-00357-00127658-00128077 CSTR tanks in series some 3 4 together pp0JQgNGnw0-00358-00128078-00128321 so you start the starter and then put a pp0JQgNGnw0-00359-00128322-00128479 QR ink and then you know just drop one pp0JQgNGnw0-00360-00128480-00128737 ink instantaneously it comes out what is pp0JQgNGnw0-00361-00128738-00128986 the meaning so those molecules which are pp0JQgNGnw0-00362-00128987-00129151 immediately coming out they don't have pp0JQgNGnw0-00363-00129152-00129379 that they have no reaction at all that pp0JQgNGnw0-00364-00129380-00129608 is waste for us that is where pass what pp0JQgNGnw0-00365-00129608-00129794 we call so that is why when you take pp0JQgNGnw0-00366-00129795-00129997 under there may be another one coming in pp0JQgNGnw0-00367-00129998-00130273 the second another particle are not one pp0JQgNGnw0-00368-00130274-00130468 particle many particles coming in the pp0JQgNGnw0-00369-00130469-00130832 second second ok third second four pp0JQgNGnw0-00370-00130833-00131026 second five fifth second like that you pp0JQgNGnw0-00371-00131027-00131318 have and two RTD studies we can actually pp0JQgNGnw0-00372-00131319-00131539 calculate from 0 to 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00373-00131540-00131833 how much fraction of the material coming pp0JQgNGnw0-00374-00131834-00132226 out that is what is your ET dt the pp0JQgNGnw0-00375-00132227-00132427 fraction of material coming between time pp0JQgNGnw0-00376-00132428-00132903 T and T plus delta T is e T DT that pp0JQgNGnw0-00377-00132904-00133150 fraction we can calculate so I can pp0JQgNGnw0-00378-00133151-00133309 calculate what is the first fraction you pp0JQgNGnw0-00379-00133310-00133573 know 0 to 1 minute are 0 to 1 second the pp0JQgNGnw0-00380-00133574-00133777 next one is 1 to 2 seconds 2 to 3 second pp0JQgNGnw0-00381-00133778-00134152 3 to 4 seconds all the fractions there pp0JQgNGnw0-00382-00134153-00134345 the commotion will not be much why the pp0JQgNGnw0-00383-00134346-00134698 time spent by that fraction is only one pp0JQgNGnw0-00384-00134699-00134872 second two seconds three seconds whereas pp0JQgNGnw0-00385-00134873-00135121 the average residence time is ten ten pp0JQgNGnw0-00386-00135122-00135249 minutes pp0JQgNGnw0-00387-00135250-00135502 that also stipple false I don't know pp0JQgNGnw0-00388-00135503-00135712 whether anyone plotted your den pp0JQgNGnw0-00389-00135713-00136051 experiment is not today some of you yeah pp0JQgNGnw0-00390-00136052-00136228 have you done the ideal one CA one pp0JQgNGnw0-00391-00136229-00136520 single CSTR RTD if you could all done pp0JQgNGnw0-00392-00136521-00136711 that is exponential decay initially it pp0JQgNGnw0-00393-00136712-00137053 falls very fast and then slowly it comes pp0JQgNGnw0-00394-00137054-00137473 out the tracer okay so that means we pp0JQgNGnw0-00395-00137474-00137710 lost a portion when I take not much pp0JQgNGnw0-00396-00137711-00137993 between you know maybe fifty fifty pp0JQgNGnw0-00397-00137994-00138170 second and fifty six second it's not pp0JQgNGnw0-00398-00138171-00138475 much aha maybe minutes if I take so that pp0JQgNGnw0-00399-00138476-00138700 is why it is the residence time pp0JQgNGnw0-00400-00138701-00138920 distribution which is affecting the pp0JQgNGnw0-00401-00138921-00139186 performance of a mixture flow reactor pp0JQgNGnw0-00402-00139187-00139471 when compared to plug flow where pp0JQgNGnw0-00403-00139472-00139702 theoretically there is no residence time pp0JQgNGnw0-00404-00139703-00139840 distribution distance and distribution pp0JQgNGnw0-00405-00139841-00140263 equal to zero right - understood no pp0JQgNGnw0-00406-00140264-00140458 because please don't say that you know pp0JQgNGnw0-00407-00140459-00140785 the moment you have the reactant going pp0JQgNGnw0-00408-00140786-00141061 instantaneous reaction it is not pp0JQgNGnw0-00409-00141062-00141184 instantaneous reaction it is pp0JQgNGnw0-00410-00141185-00141601 instantaneous mixing and in that mixture pp0JQgNGnw0-00411-00141602-00141853 what I see is molecules which are pp0JQgNGnw0-00412-00141854-00142039 entered just now molecules which are pp0JQgNGnw0-00413-00142040-00142339 already converted so all this average pp0JQgNGnw0-00414-00142340-00142611 what I am seeing as 95 percent corrosion pp0JQgNGnw0-00415-00142612-00142963 right so that is why the first reactor pp0JQgNGnw0-00416-00142964-00143251 has tremendous effect from first to pp0JQgNGnw0-00417-00143252-00143497 second you won't see that kind of bypass pp0JQgNGnw0-00418-00143498-00143791 I mean it is also perfect mixture second pp0JQgNGnw0-00419-00143792-00143981 reactor you cannot that means if you pp0JQgNGnw0-00420-00143982-00144040 find out pp0JQgNGnw0-00421-00144041-00144388 RTD for two reactors we can calculate pp0JQgNGnw0-00422-00144389-00144608 RTD for two reactors we can again pp0JQgNGnw0-00423-00144609-00144853 calculate P DX s together first they pp0JQgNGnw0-00424-00144854-00145019 actually turn that second reactor it is pp0JQgNGnw0-00425-00145020-00145271 coming out right and what is the pp0JQgNGnw0-00426-00145272-00145534 fraction that is coming out in two pp0JQgNGnw0-00427-00145535-00145895 reactors in one minute it will fall it pp0JQgNGnw0-00428-00145896-00146248 will be less than one reactor so like pp0JQgNGnw0-00429-00146249-00146386 that you know second second third second pp0JQgNGnw0-00430-00146387-00146536 fourth second all that I can calculate pp0JQgNGnw0-00431-00146537-00146809 so like that I can take six tanks RTD pp0JQgNGnw0-00432-00146810-00147068 and calculate what is the amount that is pp0JQgNGnw0-00433-00147069-00147487 coming out of this sixty tank after one pp0JQgNGnw0-00434-00147488-00147533 minute pp0JQgNGnw0-00435-00147534-00147851 much you will not see much so then if I pp0JQgNGnw0-00436-00147852-00148130 take to infinity all the molecules would pp0JQgNGnw0-00437-00148131-00148442 have spent exactly same time why the pp0JQgNGnw0-00438-00148443-00148820 molecules which help bypass it here may pp0JQgNGnw0-00439-00148821-00149027 stay here some other molecules will pp0JQgNGnw0-00440-00149028-00149300 papers and from here some other pp0JQgNGnw0-00441-00149301-00149537 molecules by Papa by us and will go some pp0JQgNGnw0-00442-00149538-00149771 other molecules will stay on the average pp0JQgNGnw0-00443-00149772-00150050 if I put infinite number of tanks all pp0JQgNGnw0-00444-00150051-00150284 these by process and all this staying pp0JQgNGnw0-00445-00150285-00150527 inside the each reactor all will be pp0JQgNGnw0-00446-00150528-00150839 uniform for each and every particle that pp0JQgNGnw0-00447-00150840-00151013 is why the residence time of each and pp0JQgNGnw0-00448-00151014-00151202 every particle if you have infinite pp0JQgNGnw0-00449-00151203-00151421 number of tanks in series is exactly pp0JQgNGnw0-00450-00151422-00151742 same as then also you can see how this pp0JQgNGnw0-00451-00151743-00151928 volume is going becoming smaller and pp0JQgNGnw0-00452-00151929-00152147 smaller and smaller and finally it is pp0JQgNGnw0-00453-00152148-00152438 going to the size of almost zero limit pp0JQgNGnw0-00454-00152439-00152672 tending to 0 where the tending to 0 is pp0JQgNGnw0-00455-00152673-00152857 nothing but the volume of your pp0JQgNGnw0-00456-00152858-00153176 cross-section I think with this you pp0JQgNGnw0-00457-00153177-00153499 should not forget that beautiful concept pp0JQgNGnw0-00458-00153500-00153896 so that is why we know that it is very pp0JQgNGnw0-00459-00153897-00154343 difficult to operate plug flow reactor pp0JQgNGnw0-00460-00154344-00154553 because you need very high velocities pp0JQgNGnw0-00461-00154554-00155134 okay what are the reynolds numbers pp0JQgNGnw0-00462-00155135-00155414 theoretically you need to get infinity pp0JQgNGnw0-00463-00155415-00155672 but practically when you want to see pp0JQgNGnw0-00464-00155673-00155855 that flat velocity profile which pp0JQgNGnw0-00465-00155856-00156077 confirms that all the particles are pp0JQgNGnw0-00466-00156078-00156224 moving at the same speed that you know pp0JQgNGnw0-00467-00156225-00156401 flat velocity profile you need around pp0JQgNGnw0-00468-00156402-00156754 40,000 50,000 60,000 in an empty queue pp0JQgNGnw0-00469-00156755-00157082 you are also mentioned empty tube if you pp0JQgNGnw0-00470-00157083-00157451 go to packet bed 500 600 if you go to pp0JQgNGnw0-00471-00157452-00157670 four thousand five thousand guaranteed pp0JQgNGnw0-00472-00157671-00157883 you know almost plug flow that kind of pp0JQgNGnw0-00473-00157884-00158051 more and more Reynolds numbers when I am pp0JQgNGnw0-00474-00158052-00158240 using what will happen to my residence pp0JQgNGnw0-00475-00158241-00158615 time let's send less so I cannot use pp0JQgNGnw0-00476-00158616-00158888 this system for all the reactions where pp0JQgNGnw0-00477-00158889-00159244 we have more residence time required for pp0JQgNGnw0-00478-00159245-00159566 conversion that is when you go for gas pp0JQgNGnw0-00479-00159567-00159737 phase reactions where gas phase pp0JQgNGnw0-00480-00159738-00160085 reactions reacting time is seconds 10 pp0JQgNGnw0-00481-00160086-00160337 seconds 15 seconds 20 to 30 seconds like pp0JQgNGnw0-00482-00160338-00160553 that even than you have there pp0JQgNGnw0-00483-00160554-00160757 one kilometer to kilometer length we are pp0JQgNGnw0-00484-00160758-00160946 putting like this like this like pp0JQgNGnw0-00485-00160947-00161165 I'm not exaggerating that kind of length pp0JQgNGnw0-00486-00161166-00161387 will be there so if you go to real you pp0JQgNGnw0-00487-00161388-00161726 know maybe no seal that kind of solid pp0JQgNGnw0-00488-00161727-00162092 chemical engineering industries you will pp0JQgNGnw0-00489-00162093-00162380 have this kind of lengthy reactors for pp0JQgNGnw0-00490-00162381-00162593 plug flow see now how beautifully it has pp0JQgNGnw0-00491-00162594-00162788 come out you know the series reaction so pp0JQgNGnw0-00492-00162789-00162944 that is the reason why because plug flow pp0JQgNGnw0-00493-00162945-00163199 is not practical most of the time we try pp0JQgNGnw0-00494-00163200-00163490 to use four reactors five reactors we're pp0JQgNGnw0-00495-00163491-00163709 mixing you can guarantee temperature pp0JQgNGnw0-00496-00163710-00163874 control is beautiful absolutely no pp0JQgNGnw0-00497-00163875-00164147 problem and not only that again you know pp0JQgNGnw0-00498-00164148-00164366 this is what that expansion of the mind pp0JQgNGnw0-00499-00164367-00164687 should come you should think also we pp0JQgNGnw0-00500-00164688-00164996 talked about isothermal system right so pp0JQgNGnw0-00501-00164997-00165278 that means even though the concentration pp0JQgNGnw0-00502-00165279-00165647 is high here okay I here and well pp0JQgNGnw0-00503-00165648-00165743 compared to this one pp0JQgNGnw0-00504-00165744-00165917 the rate of reaction will be high here pp0JQgNGnw0-00505-00165918-00166130 because concentrations are high on the pp0JQgNGnw0-00506-00166131-00166460 average again I am talking and here the pp0JQgNGnw0-00507-00166461-00166796 concentration has fallen right but how pp0JQgNGnw0-00508-00166797-00166997 do I increase the rate here see for this pp0JQgNGnw0-00509-00166998-00167174 alone you can have a separate pp0JQgNGnw0-00510-00167175-00167315 temperature control you can supply pp0JQgNGnw0-00511-00167316-00167468 separate heat of the Sun one because pp0JQgNGnw0-00512-00167469-00167696 outside jacket now I will maintain this pp0JQgNGnw0-00513-00167697-00168275 is at 60 60 or maybe 75 90 120 like that pp0JQgNGnw0-00514-00168276-00168422 you know you are trying to compensate pp0JQgNGnw0-00515-00168423-00168731 now through temperature the rate of pp0JQgNGnw0-00516-00168732-00168968 reaction more then again the total pp0JQgNGnw0-00517-00168969-00169310 volume will be less but only thing is pp0JQgNGnw0-00518-00169311-00169502 you have to see I mean it's not that pp0JQgNGnw0-00519-00169503-00169685 easy you have wonderful ideas but pp0JQgNGnw0-00520-00169686-00169835 practically everything is measured in pp0JQgNGnw0-00521-00169836-00170450 terms of paisa money the brass pp0JQgNGnw0-00522-00170451-00170585 instruments beyond certain things you pp0JQgNGnw0-00523-00170586-00170945 cannot depressions evens what pp0JQgNGnw0-00524-00170946-00171583 temperature you are talking 200 300 400 pp0JQgNGnw0-00525-00171584-00171811 what temperature 40 degrees you can't pp0JQgNGnw0-00526-00171812-00171920 use that's all simple pp0JQgNGnw0-00527-00171921-00172261 that's why CSTR saw in biochemical they pp0JQgNGnw0-00528-00172262-00172564 can't use right if they use it will be pp0JQgNGnw0-00529-00172565-00172907 30 35 36 37 38 like that only because pp0JQgNGnw0-00530-00172908-00173198 now maybe 40 45 many microorganisms will pp0JQgNGnw0-00531-00173199-00173444 die no yeah if the temperature is 50 40 pp0JQgNGnw0-00532-00173445-00173594 and continuously you are exposed there pp0JQgNGnw0-00533-00173595-00173999 that's armor here okay finish sure okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00534-00174000-00174173 so that's why if the temperature is pp0JQgNGnw0-00535-00174174-00174412 sensitive wrote use our brain ok these pp0JQgNGnw0-00536-00174413-00174599 temperature tends to I can't use beyond pp0JQgNGnw0-00537-00174600-00174818 this temperature that is very simple pp0JQgNGnw0-00538-00174819-00175058 question to answer so that is how you pp0JQgNGnw0-00539-00175059-00175249 can also try to compensate and Wallis pp0JQgNGnw0-00540-00175250-00175643 book gave that kind of problems wala pp0JQgNGnw0-00541-00175644-00175879 Wallis the kinetics for chemical pp0JQgNGnw0-00542-00175880-00176065 engineer sir so that is the title you pp0JQgNGnw0-00543-00176066-00176219 know that he has given I think you know pp0JQgNGnw0-00544-00176220-00176324 he has given I think four or three pp0JQgNGnw0-00545-00176325-00176590 reactors if I remember correctly so in pp0JQgNGnw0-00546-00176591-00176720 each reactor the temperature is pp0JQgNGnw0-00547-00176721-00177136 different 15 maybe 30 45 like that so pp0JQgNGnw0-00548-00177137-00177286 now your that means can you change in pp0JQgNGnw0-00549-00177287-00177545 each and everything concentration pp0JQgNGnw0-00550-00177546-00177797 whatever we lost to UK we are trying to pp0JQgNGnw0-00551-00177798-00178073 gain it now I think the series sir one pp0JQgNGnw0-00552-00178074-00178375 next to me is combination of reactors I pp0JQgNGnw0-00553-00178376-00178631 think you know it is only some very pp0JQgNGnw0-00554-00178632-00178808 simple thumb rules are there that is why pp0JQgNGnw0-00555-00178809-00179086 if you go to really very very high level pp0JQgNGnw0-00556-00179087-00179246 everything looks very simple for you in pp0JQgNGnw0-00557-00179247-00179444 combination of reactors how many ways pp0JQgNGnw0-00558-00179445-00179618 you can combine reactors let us say I pp0JQgNGnw0-00559-00179619-00180648 have only prefer reactors pp0JQgNGnw0-00560-00180649-00180853 what's up are we should have a combined pp0JQgNGnw0-00561-00180854-00181725 reactors says to putting room huh pp0JQgNGnw0-00562-00181726-00181894 increased emotion you could have pp0JQgNGnw0-00563-00181895-00182086 designed in the beginning itself or you pp0JQgNGnw0-00564-00182087-00182542 again adding another reactor let us say pp0JQgNGnw0-00565-00182543-00183520 we have Pia parts first the telling in pp0JQgNGnw0-00566-00183521-00183793 that case we can any combination of the pp0JQgNGnw0-00567-00183794-00184210 reactors we can what are the use I am pp0JQgNGnw0-00568-00184211-00184369 getting more volume only that I can pp0JQgNGnw0-00569-00184370-00184882 design one reactor why do you want to pp0JQgNGnw0-00570-00184883-00185026 combine I mean even it to control pp0JQgNGnw0-00571-00185027-00185196 temperature only at one temperature pp0JQgNGnw0-00572-00185197-00185407 isothermal conditions all the reactors pp0JQgNGnw0-00573-00185408-00185551 are there what do you want to combine pp0JQgNGnw0-00574-00185552-00185893 reactors huh I think partially our pp0JQgNGnw0-00575-00185894-00186058 answer is right if I want to increase pp0JQgNGnw0-00576-00186059-00186477 conversion already existing okay maybe a pp0JQgNGnw0-00577-00186478-00186856 100 meter length or diameter maybe 2 pp0JQgNGnw0-00578-00186857-00187045 inches of your plug flow reactor is pp0JQgNGnw0-00579-00187046-00187381 already existing right so that is giving pp0JQgNGnw0-00580-00187382-00187618 me a 90 percent conversion but someone pp0JQgNGnw0-00581-00187619-00187789 tells me no no no I think 90 percent pp0JQgNGnw0-00582-00187790-00187987 conversion so another 10 percent waste pp0JQgNGnw0-00583-00187988-00188212 is there I don't expect you know I don't pp0JQgNGnw0-00584-00188213-00188517 take by your product so it should be pp0JQgNGnw0-00585-00188518-00188826 maybe three percent only you should have pp0JQgNGnw0-00586-00188827-00189184 the other unconverted reactants on all pp0JQgNGnw0-00587-00189185-00189367 that then what do you do you don't have pp0JQgNGnw0-00588-00189368-00189769 to design again a whole new reactor okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00589-00189770-00189994 so then you can add reactor where do you pp0JQgNGnw0-00590-00189995-00190267 how do you add where do you add this you pp0JQgNGnw0-00591-00190268-00190696 can put paddlin you can put series you pp0JQgNGnw0-00592-00190697-00190870 tell me i meanwe different different pp0JQgNGnw0-00593-00190871-00190981 what do you mean by different different pp0JQgNGnw0-00594-00190982-00191218 there are only two different one is a pp0JQgNGnw0-00595-00191219-00191455 the series our other one is parallel any pp0JQgNGnw0-00596-00191456-00191605 other way you can combine cross current pp0JQgNGnw0-00597-00191606-00191803 also you can put but that will not pp0JQgNGnw0-00598-00191804-00191986 happen here for us cause current will pp0JQgNGnw0-00599-00191987-00192277 come later I will tell you where okay so pp0JQgNGnw0-00600-00192278-00192544 here the series are parallel okay so pp0JQgNGnw0-00601-00192545-00192694 when you have this conversion if you pp0JQgNGnw0-00602-00192695-00192922 want more and more conversion do you put pp0JQgNGnw0-00603-00192923-00193526 this P of ours in series or by pp0JQgNGnw0-00604-00193527-00193798 easy to understand our real labor so pp0JQgNGnw0-00605-00193799-00194575 that's why you put in yeah but I pp0JQgNGnw0-00606-00194576-00194746 increase the length would you get to pp0JQgNGnw0-00607-00194747-00195240 Mexico yeah I mean answer is right but I pp0JQgNGnw0-00608-00195241-00195885 think color towards the car toward pp0JQgNGnw0-00609-00195886-00196195 residence time so you are you by putting pp0JQgNGnw0-00610-00196196-00196353 in series you are putting more distance pp0JQgNGnw0-00611-00196354-00196648 time so that is why I like story only we pp0JQgNGnw0-00612-00196649-00196798 can tell this I think you don't need any pp0JQgNGnw0-00613-00196799-00196999 of course if I tell that okay I have pp0JQgNGnw0-00614-00197000-00197209 this much a 90% conversion how much pp0JQgNGnw0-00615-00197210-00197477 length is required for going from 95 to pp0JQgNGnw0-00616-00197478-00197700 97 that I think I will give you as a pp0JQgNGnw0-00617-00197701-00197937 problem but right now I want to discuss pp0JQgNGnw0-00618-00197938-00198094 all this as because you don't need any pp0JQgNGnw0-00619-00198095-00198351 new equation I tell you there are no new pp0JQgNGnw0-00620-00198352-00198637 equations or no one words basic pp0JQgNGnw0-00621-00198638-00198825 equations are only you learnt but the pp0JQgNGnw0-00622-00198826-00198975 only thing is mathematically you have to pp0JQgNGnw0-00623-00198976-00199222 you know integrate or differentiate and pp0JQgNGnw0-00624-00199223-00199377 then try to find out what will be that pp0JQgNGnw0-00625-00199378-00199539 extra information what you require for pp0JQgNGnw0-00626-00199540-00199783 all these discussion so to increase pp0JQgNGnw0-00627-00199784-00200103 conversion first objective thing is to pp0JQgNGnw0-00628-00200104-00200986 increase conversion so okay reactor pp0JQgNGnw0-00629-00200987-00201994 should be in series okay this is general pp0JQgNGnw0-00630-00201995-00202120 eating yawns he is they are also same pp0JQgNGnw0-00631-00202121-00202662 thing CSTR also okay family when you pp0JQgNGnw0-00632-00202663-00203139 discuss that and you you are not fixing pp0JQgNGnw0-00633-00203140-00203344 the conversion there we fix in pp0JQgNGnw0-00634-00203345-00203514 conversion and try to find out how the pp0JQgNGnw0-00635-00203515-00203829 volume is reducing but I want to pp0JQgNGnw0-00636-00203830-00204066 increase conversion I have 90 meter cube pp0JQgNGnw0-00637-00204067-00204256 in the beginning so another 90 meter pp0JQgNGnw0-00638-00204257-00204523 cube if I put what will happen commotion pp0JQgNGnw0-00639-00204524-00204787 definitely how much and all that we can pp0JQgNGnw0-00640-00204788-00205075 discuss later okay yeah so like that so pp0JQgNGnw0-00641-00205076-00205255 that is why in general even though it is pp0JQgNGnw0-00642-00205256-00205402 pure force RMF ours pp0JQgNGnw0-00643-00205403-00205594 this rule is correct that means to pp0JQgNGnw0-00644-00205594-00205809 increase conversion reactors should be pp0JQgNGnw0-00645-00205810-00206179 connected in series okay when this pp0JQgNGnw0-00646-00206180-00206323 parallel things will come what do you pp0JQgNGnw0-00647-00206323-00206453 mean by capacity pp0JQgNGnw0-00648-00206454-00206777 ah local electric in our language can pp0JQgNGnw0-00649-00206778-00207914 you tell what is capacity I'm just an pp0JQgNGnw0-00650-00207915-00208133 they're just asking you when do you use pp0JQgNGnw0-00651-00208134-00208529 a parallel combination is it the same pp0JQgNGnw0-00652-00208530-00208744 time I like increase conversion or pp0JQgNGnw0-00653-00208746-00208904 decrease conversion when do you want to pp0JQgNGnw0-00654-00208905-00209191 use what you said is right but I think pp0JQgNGnw0-00655-00209192-00209662 some technical words if you use pp0JQgNGnw0-00656-00209663-00210116 production rate yeah yeah in some pp0JQgNGnw0-00657-00210117-00210407 capacity production rate can be so that pp0JQgNGnw0-00658-00210408-00210578 means if you are able to produce 100 pp0JQgNGnw0-00659-00210579-00210785 times per day someone tells that no no pp0JQgNGnw0-00660-00210786-00210944 no demand has increased you can go to pp0JQgNGnw0-00661-00210944-00211253 150 tons per day so you don't have to pp0JQgNGnw0-00662-00211254-00211556 design for the entire in a new plant you pp0JQgNGnw0-00663-00211557-00211973 want to only put now Ramlal reactor okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00664-00211973-00212288 it is only now 50 tonnes so you have pp0JQgNGnw0-00665-00212289-00212483 originally when you are talking about p pp0JQgNGnw0-00666-00212484-00213050 offers like this one reactor which is pp0JQgNGnw0-00667-00213051-00213244 giving you 90 percent conversion so this pp0JQgNGnw0-00668-00213246-00213881 is 400 tonnes per day now we we thought pp0JQgNGnw0-00669-00213882-00214028 now that we can put another parallel pp0JQgNGnw0-00670-00214029-00214794 reactor for increasing 200 okay parallel pp0JQgNGnw0-00671-00214796-00215192 so the this will be under 50 tons per pp0JQgNGnw0-00672-00215192-00215642 day the both together not one both pp0JQgNGnw0-00673-00215642-00215788 together pp0JQgNGnw0-00674-00215789-00216046 good so what is the condition I have to pp0JQgNGnw0-00675-00216048-00216665 maintain here because yeah so parallely pp0JQgNGnw0-00676-00216666-00216844 I made that that means I have to again pp0JQgNGnw0-00677-00216846-00217061 separate you put another flow rate and pp0JQgNGnw0-00678-00217062-00217355 all that here right but is there any pp0JQgNGnw0-00679-00217356-00217571 condition we require for outlet what do pp0JQgNGnw0-00680-00217571-00217691 they converse what should be commercial pp0JQgNGnw0-00681-00217692-00217892 from Oakland pp0JQgNGnw0-00682-00217894-00218408 why were you I can't miss I can always pp0JQgNGnw0-00683-00218409-00218814 mix but what do you get yeah different pp0JQgNGnw0-00684-00218815-00219212 means more or less is the condition that pp0JQgNGnw0-00685-00219213-00219467 is the condition so to maintain that pp0JQgNGnw0-00686-00219469-00219714 condition no one component about 90% but pp0JQgNGnw0-00687-00219715-00219842 the only thing is throttle production pp0JQgNGnw0-00688-00219844-00220130 rate we should increase so that is why pp0JQgNGnw0-00689-00220131-00220484 this also should have 90 percent this pp0JQgNGnw0-00690-00220485-00220898 officer should have 90 percent now you pp0JQgNGnw0-00691-00220900-00221142 have to calculate back for 90 percent pp0JQgNGnw0-00692-00221142-00221480 conversion how much is the volume pp0JQgNGnw0-00693-00221481-00221690 required and what are the flow rates pp0JQgNGnw0-00694-00221691-00221819 okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00695-00221821-00221964 I mean automatically flow rates will pp0JQgNGnw0-00696-00221965-00222323 come there right so this is one now the pp0JQgNGnw0-00697-00222325-00222738 House bill says that you divide this you pp0JQgNGnw0-00698-00222739-00222921 know the volumes I think he gives an pp0JQgNGnw0-00699-00222921-00223346 example of this is 80 letters maybe this pp0JQgNGnw0-00700-00223348-00223498 is 40 liters pp0JQgNGnw0-00701-00223500-00223844 how do you know speak to your flow rates pp0JQgNGnw0-00702-00223844-00224042 because you have only one stream coming pp0JQgNGnw0-00703-00224044-00224448 here you remember that V value of a pp0JQgNGnw0-00704-00224448-00224846 naught this is V by F R naught 1 this is pp0JQgNGnw0-00705-00224848-00225317 V by F air not poop so we have to pp0JQgNGnw0-00706-00225319-00225525 maintain V by F cannot these two same pp0JQgNGnw0-00707-00225526-00226256 why this should maintain same you know 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same 0 to XA the except - sorry pp0JQgNGnw0-00722-00229842-00230262 this is equal to in general V by F pp0JQgNGnw0-00723-00230263-00231035 naught yeah yeah let us say if this is pp0JQgNGnw0-00724-00231036-00231239 90 percent conversion this is pp0JQgNGnw0-00725-00231240-00231451 percent conversion what will happen we pp0JQgNGnw0-00726-00231452-00231610 know because I have to tell sell the pp0JQgNGnw0-00727-00231611-00231880 product by mixing those two right what pp0JQgNGnw0-00728-00231881-00232402 will be the average conversion between pp0JQgNGnw0-00729-00232403-00232576 either depends on weighted average and pp0JQgNGnw0-00730-00232577-00232873 all that so it may be between 70 and 90 pp0JQgNGnw0-00731-00232873-00233138 so that means your Commission is falling pp0JQgNGnw0-00732-00233139-00233376 that fellow may not accept now pp0JQgNGnw0-00733-00233377-00233581 so the minimum think you have to pp0JQgNGnw0-00734-00233582-00233848 maintain is 90 percent only otherwise pp0JQgNGnw0-00735-00233850-00234055 any other conversion if you even if you pp0JQgNGnw0-00736-00234056-00234413 go to 95 percent here that is 90 so pp0JQgNGnw0-00737-00234414-00234577 again it is changing maybe higher said pp0JQgNGnw0-00738-00234578-00234976 but still that's not required right pp0JQgNGnw0-00739-00234977-00235102 because I'm necessarily you know if it pp0JQgNGnw0-00740-00235103-00235276 is a 90 percent again you have more time pp0JQgNGnw0-00741-00235277-00235579 required so that is why whatever fiction pp0JQgNGnw0-00742-00235580-00235831 conversion we have you have to have the pp0JQgNGnw0-00743-00235832-00235984 in the outlet in the new reactor the pp0JQgNGnw0-00744-00235985-00236141 same conversion so that there will not pp0JQgNGnw0-00745-00236142-00236665 be any dilution that you have to adjust pp0JQgNGnw0-00746-00236666-00236944 that V by oven RT is nothing but tau by pp0JQgNGnw0-00747-00236946-00237221 CA naught so that's why residence time pp0JQgNGnw0-00748-00237221-00237442 is automatically adjusted so to adjust pp0JQgNGnw0-00749-00237444-00237698 those timings you maintain the flow rate pp0JQgNGnw0-00750-00237698-00237967 such that you because you are taking 40 pp0JQgNGnw0-00751-00237969-00238252 liters and it is available with you okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00752-00238253-00238439 or some other rather thing so pp0JQgNGnw0-00753-00238440-00238606 accordingly you maintain flow rate such pp0JQgNGnw0-00754-00238607-00238787 that you will get this convert I mean pp0JQgNGnw0-00755-00238788-00239005 this conversion same simple thumb rule pp0JQgNGnw0-00756-00239006-00239707 it's not only this yeah yeah no problem pp0JQgNGnw0-00757-00239708-00240367 you know that is true you don't have to pp0JQgNGnw0-00758-00240369-00240535 put a no this is a common point there pp0JQgNGnw0-00759-00240536-00240938 okay but still this condition is se-eun pp0JQgNGnw0-00760-00240939-00241292 if you put parallel without any touch no pp0JQgNGnw0-00761-00241292-00241448 touch but still what should be the pp0JQgNGnw0-00762-00241448-00241775 orchid concentration still 90 percent pp0JQgNGnw0-00763-00241776-00242119 yeah till 90 percent conversion okay so pp0JQgNGnw0-00764-00242121-00242339 that is what is the condition for all pp0JQgNGnw0-00765-00242340-00242617 parallel combinations you have to use pp0JQgNGnw0-00766-00242619-00243067 only same conversion whereas we are over pp0JQgNGnw0-00767-00243069-00243314 here to increase the conversion you go pp0JQgNGnw0-00768-00243315-00243539 for more I mean in series and to pp0JQgNGnw0-00769-00243540-00243802 increase production production means you pp0JQgNGnw0-00770-00243803-00243955 know production you can increase but you pp0JQgNGnw0-00771-00243956-00244091 cannot decrease again kenosha pp0JQgNGnw0-00772-00244092-00244327 if you have different conversion that's pp0JQgNGnw0-00773-00244328-00244477 all with the combination of reaction of pp0JQgNGnw0-00774-00244478-00244671 reactors pp0JQgNGnw0-00775-00244673-00244928 if you take individual cstr's and pp0JQgNGnw0-00776-00244929-00245225 individual you know peer force now we pp0JQgNGnw0-00777-00245226-00245431 have another combination can I put a pp0JQgNGnw0-00778-00245432-00245671 CSTR and a mixture flow together under pp0JQgNGnw0-00779-00245673-00245821 what conditions who do that we know that pp0JQgNGnw0-00780-00245823-00246131 well all N greater than zero mutual flow pp0JQgNGnw0-00781-00246132-00246517 is along the reactor so suppose I'm in pp0JQgNGnw0-00782-00246519-00246839 ninety percent conversion child so we pp0JQgNGnw0-00783-00246840-00247117 use a PFR but it's it's giving only pp0JQgNGnw0-00784-00247119-00247391 eighty percent conversion so if we put pp0JQgNGnw0-00785-00247392-00247792 CSTR in series after PFR that I can put pp0JQgNGnw0-00786-00247794-00248260 under people yeah but I think that is pp0JQgNGnw0-00787-00248261-00248371 the other constraint which we are not pp0JQgNGnw0-00788-00248373-00248506 discussing you know temperature control pp0JQgNGnw0-00789-00248507-00248648 means person I should go to the other pp0JQgNGnw0-00790-00248648-00250148 PFR also only my MF that kind of pp0JQgNGnw0-00791-00250148-00250403 convincing reason for is because I can pp0JQgNGnw0-00792-00250404-00250546 also maintain degree speaking we can pp0JQgNGnw0-00793-00250548-00250879 also maintain temperatures for PFR also pp0JQgNGnw0-00794-00250880-00251198 okay but I think which is convenient is pp0JQgNGnw0-00795-00251198-00251567 definitely MF r but I know that Emma pp0JQgNGnw0-00796-00251567-00251705 forgives again lower conversions when pp0JQgNGnw0-00797-00251706-00252055 compared to pf1 correcto i mean i have pp0JQgNGnw0-00798-00252056-00252263 usually exit temperature but in spite of pp0JQgNGnw0-00799-00252264-00252526 using temperature that cannot compensate pp0JQgNGnw0-00800-00252527-00252794 PFR except under some conditions where pp0JQgNGnw0-00801-00252794-00252964 it is a wonderful problem in Harbury pp0JQgNGnw0-00802-00252965-00253196 very has done that you know under some pp0JQgNGnw0-00803-00253196-00253442 activation energies adiabatic reactors pp0JQgNGnw0-00804-00253442-00253748 i will tell that when you come to non pp0JQgNGnw0-00805-00253748-00253984 isothermal reactors i will also tell pp0JQgNGnw0-00806-00253985-00254177 that under some conditions you can i pp0JQgNGnw0-00807-00254178-00254537 know cstrs also will go beyond mixed pp0JQgNGnw0-00808-00254538-00254671 flow reactors particularly if you have pp0JQgNGnw0-00809-00254673-00254966 adiabatic reaction under some activation pp0JQgNGnw0-00810-00254967-00255244 energy conditions so that is why I think pp0JQgNGnw0-00811-00255246-00255409 these combinations generally we don't pp0JQgNGnw0-00812-00255410-00255737 use CSTR followed by MF our EMF or pp0JQgNGnw0-00813-00255738-00256001 followed by CSTR for normal reaction pp0JQgNGnw0-00814-00256002-00256281 CSTR followed by PFR and PFR followed by pp0JQgNGnw0-00815-00256282-00256621 CSTR that is not generally followed but pp0JQgNGnw0-00816-00256623-00256973 in one case you beautifully used pp0JQgNGnw0-00817-00256975-00257280 and later the remaining unreacted things pp0JQgNGnw0-00818-00257281-00257534 can be mixed in there all say can you pp0JQgNGnw0-00819-00257535-00257703 spare for no because they're also Pierre pp0JQgNGnw0-00820-00257704-00258223 part will give you a better conversion pp0JQgNGnw0-00821-00258225-00258423 there's still some concentration going pp0JQgNGnw0-00822-00258423-00259251 on this auto catalytic reaction of that pp0JQgNGnw0-00823-00259252-00259533 is a beautiful combination but in spite pp0JQgNGnw0-00824-00259534-00259784 of that we have to definitely find out pp0JQgNGnw0-00825-00259785-00260333 whether when do you use CSTR I mean this pp0JQgNGnw0-00826-00260334-00261198 combination okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00827-00261198-00261423 in spite of that still we can discuss pp0JQgNGnw0-00828-00261423-00261665 this like for example I have this pp0JQgNGnw0-00829-00261666-00261859 reaction pp0JQgNGnw0-00830-00261860-00262155 okay this combination going for R equal pp0JQgNGnw0-00831-00262156-00262767 n equal to one okay so I already going pp0JQgNGnw0-00832-00262768-00262910 on I think for some reason I have used pp0JQgNGnw0-00833-00262911-00263256 these two okay and then the reaction is pp0JQgNGnw0-00834-00263257-00263502 going on and now I have four first order pp0JQgNGnw0-00835-00263503-00263742 reaction so suddenly I got the idea can pp0JQgNGnw0-00836-00263743-00264018 I interchange interchange means instead pp0JQgNGnw0-00837-00264019-00264245 of pumping decide can I bump this side pp0JQgNGnw0-00838-00264246-00264513 that is my interchange that so I'm not pp0JQgNGnw0-00839-00264514-00264714 changing again be fabricating and pp0JQgNGnw0-00840-00264715-00264978 fabricating and all that okay so will pp0JQgNGnw0-00841-00264979-00265155 the conversions change these are all pp0JQgNGnw0-00842-00265156-00265422 academic questions nice and academic pp0JQgNGnw0-00843-00265423-00265625 questions pp0JQgNGnw0-00844-00265626-00265977 okay so this one please delay that means pp0JQgNGnw0-00845-00265978-00266271 take n equal to one constant density pp0JQgNGnw0-00846-00266272-00266541 system and you know first it is going pp0JQgNGnw0-00847-00266542-00266832 through PFR and ideal ideal PFR ideal pp0JQgNGnw0-00848-00266833-00267054 MFR and in the reverse direction it is pp0JQgNGnw0-00849-00267055-00267351 first going through yeah here CSTR at pp0JQgNGnw0-00850-00267352-00267756 the MFR and then PFR okay so n equal to pp0JQgNGnw0-00851-00267757-00268275 one constant density system - are equal pp0JQgNGnw0-00852-00268276-00268539 to KC a I will simply say that a are pp0JQgNGnw0-00853-00268540-00268767 going to are constant density system are pp0JQgNGnw0-00854-00268768-00268958 even gas phase also same because no pp0JQgNGnw0-00855-00268959-00269265 volume change please find out which pp0JQgNGnw0-00856-00269266-00269737 setup gives pp0JQgNGnw0-00857-00269738-00270491 which gives more conversion for n equal pp0JQgNGnw0-00858-00270492-00270729 to one pp0JQgNGnw0-00859-00270730-00272059 repeat this for n equal to 2 ok yeah and pp0JQgNGnw0-00860-00272060-00273377 again repeat this for n equal n equal to pp0JQgNGnw0-00861-00273378-00273831 1/2 of order reaction will you do that pp0JQgNGnw0-00862-00273832-00274139 this is fourth assignment you also know pp0JQgNGnw0-00863-00274140-00274271 that you know some kind of optimization pp0JQgNGnw0-00864-00274272-00274504 between two reactors if I have two pp0JQgNGnw0-00865-00274505-00274943 reactors cstr's for example pp0JQgNGnw0-00866-00274944-00275131 plug flow will be very complicated but pp0JQgNGnw0-00867-00275132-00276328 cstr's two tanks are having series okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00868-00276329-00276824 so this may be V 1 this may be V 2 which pp0JQgNGnw0-00869-00276825-00277471 are not same V 1 is not equal to V 2 pp0JQgNGnw0-00870-00277472-00277708 right and otherwise I will say that pp0JQgNGnw0-00871-00277709-00278227 another condition V 1 is less than V 2 pp0JQgNGnw0-00872-00278228-00278624 for this one how do i optimize that pp0JQgNGnw0-00873-00278625-00279050 means our given conversion for gyoon pp0JQgNGnw0-00874-00279051-00279365 conversely XA how to minimize the pp0JQgNGnw0-00875-00279366-00280553 volumes okay how do we minimize reactor pp0JQgNGnw0-00876-00280554-00281417 volume far given XA all this you have pp0JQgNGnw0-00877-00281418-00281717 done okay I will give you a clue for pp0JQgNGnw0-00878-00281718-00282004 this which you have done also so this pp0JQgNGnw0-00879-00282005-00282224 one let us say residence time is tau 1 pp0JQgNGnw0-00880-00282225-00282634 and tau 2 okay and this is given pp0JQgNGnw0-00881-00282635-00282887 conversion conversion is fixed for a pp0JQgNGnw0-00882-00282888-00283057 given conversion what will be the pp0JQgNGnw0-00883-00283058-00283577 minimum volumes of a and B we can do for pp0JQgNGnw0-00884-00283578-00283783 first standard you can do do do for pp0JQgNGnw0-00885-00283784-00284000 second order first let us see only for pp0JQgNGnw0-00886-00284001-00284324 first order because easy to do okay how pp0JQgNGnw0-00887-00284325-00284482 do you optimize this what is the pp0JQgNGnw0-00888-00284483-00284734 mathematical condition for minimizing pp0JQgNGnw0-00889-00284735-00284969 the total volume total volume amazing pp0JQgNGnw0-00890-00284970-00285754 for given conversion D by DV by DT what pp0JQgNGnw0-00891-00285755-00286337 is V then V 1 plus V 2 pp0JQgNGnw0-00892-00286338-00286976 what is DV by DT what is that pp0JQgNGnw0-00893-00286977-00287196 ladies time of reaction because your pp0JQgNGnw0-00894-00287197-00288353 strategy almost divided here the exhibit pp0JQgNGnw0-00895-00288354-00288975 DV by DX a one on this year yeah pp0JQgNGnw0-00896-00288976-00289200 wide intermediate conversion because pp0JQgNGnw0-00897-00289201-00289467 this is fixed so if I am able to pp0JQgNGnw0-00898-00289468-00289701 optimize this how much is coming out of pp0JQgNGnw0-00899-00289702-00289881 this and then entering this is already pp0JQgNGnw0-00900-00289882-00290031 optimal one which is entering this pp0JQgNGnw0-00901-00290032-00290285 reactor now so that's why war also you pp0JQgNGnw0-00902-00290286-00290646 will get the optimum that is why total pp0JQgNGnw0-00903-00290647-00290850 time if it is tau 1 so if I call this pp0JQgNGnw0-00904-00290851-00291315 one as 2/1 and also this is tau 2 what pp0JQgNGnw0-00905-00291316-00291903 you have to do is D tau 1 plus tau 2 DCA pp0JQgNGnw0-00906-00291904-00292389 one that should be minimum pp0JQgNGnw0-00907-00292390-00292638 I mean minimum or maximum then you can pp0JQgNGnw0-00908-00292639-00292859 calculate from second derivative okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00909-00292860-00293070 the first generator should be zero first pp0JQgNGnw0-00910-00293071-00293256 okay why should I have a draw of pp0JQgNGnw0-00911-00293257-00293565 reaction I can have only rate versus pp0JQgNGnw0-00912-00293566-00293928 concentration data because you have gone pp0JQgNGnw0-00913-00293929-00294237 to kinetics and then you found out a DC pp0JQgNGnw0-00914-00294238-00294513 as concentration versus time and somehow pp0JQgNGnw0-00915-00294514-00294734 you plotted DC by DT and then got rate pp0JQgNGnw0-00916-00294735-00295305 versus C ya what's s minus R here data pp0JQgNGnw0-00917-00295306-00295719 you don't want to fit this the rate of pp0JQgNGnw0-00918-00295720-00295971 reaction equation you don't want to find pp0JQgNGnw0-00919-00295972-00296271 out any rate rate equation so how do I pp0JQgNGnw0-00920-00296272-00296604 use this one of our design because these pp0JQgNGnw0-00921-00296605-00296772 are are not new there is there is pp0JQgNGnw0-00922-00296773-00297024 nothing new no new concepts already what pp0JQgNGnw0-00923-00297025-00297192 you know I am just trying to ask what is pp0JQgNGnw0-00924-00297193-00297324 which concentration I think you know as pp0JQgNGnw0-00925-00297325-00297492 concentration is increasing or pp0JQgNGnw0-00926-00297493-00297723 decreasing you are correspondingly it is pp0JQgNGnw0-00927-00297724-00297915 simple I am going to N greater than zero pp0JQgNGnw0-00928-00297916-00298275 type how do I find out volume of the pp0JQgNGnw0-00929-00298276-00298914 reactor plot what see a 2-0 1 divided by pp0JQgNGnw0-00930-00298915-00299232 are you tired how you know you are pp0JQgNGnw0-00931-00299233-00299367 thinking that you are only trying to pp0JQgNGnw0-00932-00299368-00299679 find out you know using beautifully pp0JQgNGnw0-00933-00299680-00300332 right yeah I'm in general I'm asking ya pp0JQgNGnw0-00934-00300333-00300555 you know how many times you have done pp0JQgNGnw0-00935-00300556-00300804 the simplest thing is one by - aria pp0JQgNGnw0-00936-00300805-00301503 watch says CA okay re exhale okay pp0JQgNGnw0-00937-00301504-00301650 exhale is easy for us because our pp0JQgNGnw0-00938-00301651-00301860 equations are X here and this is again pp0JQgNGnw0-00939-00301861-00302040 special case you know where constant pp0JQgNGnw0-00940-00302041-00302343 density system so if I write x a then pp0JQgNGnw0-00941-00302344-00302481 where it should be it goes like this pp0JQgNGnw0-00942-00302482-00302895 okay yeah so now for a new reactor I pp0JQgNGnw0-00943-00302896-00303192 have to fix the conversion so I fix it pp0JQgNGnw0-00944-00303193-00303507 this conversion this is X Al and now I pp0JQgNGnw0-00945-00303508-00303693 would just how is it whatever you say pp0JQgNGnw0-00946-00303694-00303954 okay so area under the curve alone will pp0JQgNGnw0-00947-00303955-00304527 give you PR for volume and that one will pp0JQgNGnw0-00948-00304528-00305103 give you even two reactors also you can pp0JQgNGnw0-00949-00305104-00305664 try right so similarly for tanks in pp0JQgNGnw0-00950-00305665-00305838 series also this is one reactor we are pp0JQgNGnw0-00951-00305839-00306105 talking four tanks in series there is a pp0JQgNGnw0-00952-00306106-00306234 method of plotting this something pp0JQgNGnw0-00953-00306235-00306627 finding out what is the either pp0JQgNGnw0-00954-00306628-00307056 conversion our volume do you remember pp0JQgNGnw0-00955-00307057-00307263 that method what Sarita lost ah this you pp0JQgNGnw0-00956-00307264-00307524 know this is this is we all our design pp0JQgNGnw0-00957-00307525-00307776 expressions what do you have yeah V by F pp0JQgNGnw0-00958-00307777-00308112 n not equal to integral DX am I - are pp0JQgNGnw0-00959-00308113-00308309 you so that's why area under the curve pp0JQgNGnw0-00960-00308310-00309312 is nothing about DX are you buy these pp0JQgNGnw0-00961-00309313-00309555 the area that is equal to nothing but V pp0JQgNGnw0-00962-00309556-00310104 by if it is plug flow so then if I take pp0JQgNGnw0-00963-00310105-00310317 because these equations say already you pp0JQgNGnw0-00964-00310318-00310479 know but only thing is that connection pp0JQgNGnw0-00965-00310480-00310758 should come not able to follow still pp0JQgNGnw0-00966-00310759-00311004 yeah so now if it is continuing I am in pp0JQgNGnw0-00967-00311005-00311537 a mixture flow reactor all this because pp0JQgNGnw0-00968-00311538-00312418 this one is only PFR okay this is PR pp0JQgNGnw0-00969-00312419-00313294 and this one is a MFR okay so this will pp0JQgNGnw0-00972-00321167-00321448 fixing because when you are finding out pp0JQgNGnw0-00973-00321449-00321628 the area under the car what is the pp0JQgNGnw0-00974-00321629-00321799 meaning you are finding out volume of pp0JQgNGnw0-00975-00321800-00322008 the reactor so to find out one above the pp0JQgNGnw0-00976-00322009-00322320 reactor you should know conversion pp0JQgNGnw0-00977-00322321-00322792 kenosha mean CA either one either this pp0JQgNGnw0-00978-00322793-00323424 or that pp0JQgNGnw0-00979-00323425-00323722 you see a and - our data is give us pp0JQgNGnw0-00980-00323723-00323971 there are does not mention what is not pp0JQgNGnw0-00981-00323972-00324406 required it is not what is the problem pp0JQgNGnw0-00982-00324407-00324655 what you have to find for exactly if you pp0JQgNGnw0-00983-00324656-00324775 are finding this warning kinds of things pp0JQgNGnw0-00984-00324776-00324889 you know what is given in the problem pp0JQgNGnw0-00985-00324890-00325570 they would rate of the reaction no see pp0JQgNGnw0-00986-00325571-00325789 in that problem when IQ there must be pp0JQgNGnw0-00987-00325790-00325987 some object you know find one who find pp0JQgNGnw0-00988-00325988-00327595 conversion - well I think I am NOT pp0JQgNGnw0-00989-00327596-00327736 talking about what you are talking about pp0JQgNGnw0-00990-00327737-00328087 - one point you are talking about one pp0JQgNGnw0-00991-00328088-00328324 point I am talking about if you collect pp0JQgNGnw0-00992-00328325-00328618 data CA vs minus RA how do you use that pp0JQgNGnw0-00993-00328619-00328930 for reactor design that is what my pp0JQgNGnw0-00994-00328931-00329170 question so there the answer is that you pp0JQgNGnw0-00995-00329171-00329467 know you cannot find out that's all pp0JQgNGnw0-00996-00329468-00329632 right you cannot find out is only one pp0JQgNGnw0-00997-00329633-00330037 point so answer is known to us because I pp0JQgNGnw0-00998-00330038-00330262 think your own some data of Lowndes PL pp0JQgNGnw0-00999-00330263-00330487 problems you cannot find out you have to pp0JQgNGnw0-01000-00330488-00330697 say that you know he also gives for add pp0JQgNGnw0-01001-00330698-00330895 of reaction where a a plus B going to pp0JQgNGnw0-01002-00330896-00331141 something okay what is that of reaction pp0JQgNGnw0-01003-00331142-00331444 he asks you can't say unless otherwise pp0JQgNGnw0-01004-00331445-00331731 you mentioned whether it is elementary pp0JQgNGnw0-01005-00331732-00331966 so again you know he wants to provoke pp0JQgNGnw0-01006-00331967-00332008 you pp0JQgNGnw0-01007-00332009-00332167 that's why I also want to provoke you I pp0JQgNGnw0-01008-00332168-00332416 gave the questions and then I know this pp0JQgNGnw0-01009-00332417-00332644 one point answer for that is you cannot pp0JQgNGnw0-01010-00332645-00332890 find out but I am retiring I thought you pp0JQgNGnw0-01011-00332891-00333133 are asking something great about this pp0JQgNGnw0-01012-00333134-00333388 train home see here - re and that's why pp0JQgNGnw0-01013-00333389-00333592 I was asking unless the XA is given how pp0JQgNGnw0-01014-00333593-00333823 do you find out volume okay you are pp0JQgNGnw0-01015-00333824-00333967 talking about one point where I am pp0JQgNGnw0-01016-00333968-00334171 talking about your process where how do pp0JQgNGnw0-01017-00334172-00334450 you find out you know volume without pp0JQgNGnw0-01018-00334451-00334602 even finding out what is the rate of pp0JQgNGnw0-01019-00334603-00335113 reaction okay yeah and this is one thing pp0JQgNGnw0-01020-00335114-00335389 the other thing is that you have delayed pp0JQgNGnw0-01021-00335390-00335647 versus again same thing we said we plot pp0JQgNGnw0-01022-00335648-00336091 rate versus CA it is not one by one by - pp0JQgNGnw0-01023-00336092-00336138 Arya pp0JQgNGnw0-01024-00336139-00336535 it is simply this okay so now when you pp0JQgNGnw0-01025-00336536-00336790 have the same kind of data we can all pp0JQgNGnw0-01026-00336791-00336978 so find out what is the conversion if I pp0JQgNGnw0-01027-00336979-00337321 have two to three reactors in series two pp0JQgNGnw0-01028-00337322-00337597 to three tanks in series or otherwise pp0JQgNGnw0-01029-00337598-00338003 given conversion what will be the pp0JQgNGnw0-01030-00338004-00338395 volumes combinations you know how to do pp0JQgNGnw0-01031-00338396-00338644 that again same equations it is only pp0JQgNGnw0-01032-00338645-00338824 nothing new it is only you know an pp0JQgNGnw0-01033-00338825-00338941 expansion of the brain that's all pp0JQgNGnw0-01034-00338942-00339094 nothing else okay I think someone was pp0JQgNGnw0-01035-00339095-00339472 telling that so equal to ca naught minus pp0JQgNGnw0-01036-00339473-00339956 CA by minus RA is the equation for M fr pp0JQgNGnw0-01037-00339957-00340189 kurata please check V by F ammeter and pp0JQgNGnw0-01038-00340190-00340546 all that we will check right so this is pp0JQgNGnw0-01039-00340547-00340891 the equation what you get the same thing pp0JQgNGnw0-01040-00340892-00341173 can also be used to find out you know pp0JQgNGnw0-01041-00341174-00341347 the volume and also if I have another pp0JQgNGnw0-01042-00341348-00341665 one this is tau 1 tau 2 equal to this is pp0JQgNGnw0-01043-00341666-00342570 C a1 C a1 minus C a2 this is aria one pp0JQgNGnw0-01044-00342571-00343077 Aria - ok what we do is we try to pp0JQgNGnw0-01045-00343078-00343747 arrange this equation 1 by tau 2 equal pp0JQgNGnw0-01046-00343748-00344532 to minus RA 1 by C u naught by yeah yeah pp0JQgNGnw0-01047-00344533-00344751 this is the one so that means I have to pp0JQgNGnw0-01048-00344752-00345380 draw ok I have to start here see an art pp0JQgNGnw0-01049-00345381-00345855 yeah one by one Oh sir yeah that's okay pp0JQgNGnw0-01050-00345856-00346407 one by one yeah so this is the one this pp0JQgNGnw0-01051-00346408-00346747 is here not ok now if I draw a line here pp0JQgNGnw0-01052-00346748-00348398 this is C a1 ok oh this is neck too pp0JQgNGnw0-01053-00348399-00348854 this is negative slope only no that is pp0JQgNGnw0-01054-00348855-00349155 okay - that's okay I'm a shape itself pp0JQgNGnw0-01055-00349156-00349341 will tell you it's the negative if it is pp0JQgNGnw0-01056-00349342-00349473 positive like that it will be oh that's pp0JQgNGnw0-01057-00349474-00349508 fine pp0JQgNGnw0-01058-00349509-00350004 so similarly if I have the same thing go pp0JQgNGnw0-01059-00350005-00350750 like this so this is ca - this is ca 3 pp0JQgNGnw0-01060-00350751-00351090 so this slope is nothing but I have you pp0JQgNGnw0-01061-00351091-00351345 know this minus R this is minus R that pp0JQgNGnw0-01062-00351346-00351855 is this - RA 1 and this one this is the pp0JQgNGnw0-01063-00351856-00352329 slope this is this room right so again pp0JQgNGnw0-01064-00352330-00352473 you know what I am trying to say there pp0JQgNGnw0-01065-00352474-00352760 is that we have not learnt any new pp0JQgNGnw0-01066-00352761-00352992 equations using the same kind of pp0JQgNGnw0-01067-00352993-00353060 equations pp0JQgNGnw0-01068-00353061-00353241 how are you manipulating so that you can pp0JQgNGnw0-01069-00353242-00353427 get this kind of thing but it is very pp0JQgNGnw0-01070-00353428-00353679 easy you find no volume of the reactor pp0JQgNGnw0-01071-00353680-00353826 first and then to find out conversions pp0JQgNGnw0-01072-00353827-00353919 yeah pp0JQgNGnw0-01073-00353920-00354156 but it is very difficult for me to go pp0JQgNGnw0-01074-00354157-00354375 the other way that means you find no ca3 pp0JQgNGnw0-01075-00354376-00354627 I have to now find out three reactors so pp0JQgNGnw0-01076-00354628-00354807 that means by trial and error you have pp0JQgNGnw0-01077-00354808-00355033 to draw these slopes by trial and error pp0JQgNGnw0-01078-00355034-00355428 then only you have to come here each pp0JQgNGnw0-01079-00355429-00355602 time you have to draw a slope and then pp0JQgNGnw0-01080-00355603-00355740 draw these lines and then see whether pp0JQgNGnw0-01081-00355741-00356171 you are coinciding with CA 3 are not so pp0JQgNGnw0-01082-00356172-00356529 easy problem is knowing volume that pp0JQgNGnw0-01083-00356530-00356829 means rowing tow on finding out pp0JQgNGnw0-01084-00356830-00356946 conversion that is easy pp0JQgNGnw0-01085-00356947-00357227 yah - right somewhere knowing Tao pp0JQgNGnw0-01086-00357228-00357509 getting conversion is easy in this pp0JQgNGnw0-01087-00357510-00357867 problem but difficulty is knowing pp0JQgNGnw0-01088-00357868-00358143 conversion finding out Tao by trial and pp0JQgNGnw0-01089-00358144-00358296 error you have to go by trial and error pp0JQgNGnw0-01090-00358297-00358602 one has to go so slopes you have to pp0JQgNGnw0-01091-00358603-00358800 change such that finally you end up here pp0JQgNGnw0-01092-00358801-00359196 with the ca3 okay yeah I think it is pp0JQgNGnw0-01093-00359197-00359628 full we will will discuss later pOzC4tQhjKg-00000-00000050-00000331 an anti-war movement also anti-war is a pOzC4tQhjKg-00001-00000332-00000574 social movement usually in opposition to pOzC4tQhjKg-00002-00000575-00000780 a particular Nations decision to start pOzC4tQhjKg-00003-00000781-00000927 or carry on an armed conflict pOzC4tQhjKg-00004-00000928-00001147 unconditional of a maybe existing just pOzC4tQhjKg-00005-00001148-00001404 cause the term can also refer to pOzC4tQhjKg-00006-00001405-00001629 pacifism which is the opposition to all pOzC4tQhjKg-00007-00001630-00001857 use of military force during conflicts pOzC4tQhjKg-00008-00001859-00002104 many activists distinguish between pOzC4tQhjKg-00009-00002105-00002320 anti-war movements and peace movements pOzC4tQhjKg-00010-00002321-00002581 anti-war activists work through protests pOzC4tQhjKg-00011-00002582-00002779 and other grassroots means to attempt to pOzC4tQhjKg-00012-00002780-00002974 pressure a government or governments to pOzC4tQhjKg-00013-00002975-00003148 put an end to a particular war or pOzC4tQhjKg-00014-00003149-00003506 conflict pOzC4tQhjKg-00015-00003507-00004102 topic history of modern movements pOzC4tQhjKg-00016-00004103-00004715 topic American Revolutionary War pOzC4tQhjKg-00017-00004716-00004952 substantial opposition to British war pOzC4tQhjKg-00018-00004953-00005145 intervention in America led the British pOzC4tQhjKg-00019-00005146-00005411 House of Commons on the 27th of February pOzC4tQhjKg-00020-00005412-00005681 1782 to vote against further war in pOzC4tQhjKg-00021-00005682-00005877 America paving the way for the second pOzC4tQhjKg-00022-00005878-00006036 Rockingham ministry and the Peace of pOzC4tQhjKg-00023-00006037-00006420 Paris pOzC4tQhjKg-00024-00006422-00007009 topic antebellum era United States pOzC4tQhjKg-00025-00007009-00007268 substantial anti-war sentiment developed pOzC4tQhjKg-00026-00007269-00007459 in the United States during the period pOzC4tQhjKg-00027-00007461-00007637 roughly falling between the end of the pOzC4tQhjKg-00028-00007638-00007862 war of 1812 and the commencement of the pOzC4tQhjKg-00029-00007863-00008020 Civil War or what is called the pOzC4tQhjKg-00030-00008022-00008213 antebellum era a similar movement pOzC4tQhjKg-00031-00008214-00008375 developed in England during the same pOzC4tQhjKg-00032-00008376-00008612 period the movement reflected both pOzC4tQhjKg-00033-00008613-00008804 strict pacifist and more moderate pOzC4tQhjKg-00034-00008805-00009065 non-interventionist positions many pOzC4tQhjKg-00035-00009066-00009248 prominent intellectuals of the time pOzC4tQhjKg-00036-00009249-00009482 including Ralph Waldo Emerson Henry pOzC4tQhjKg-00037-00009483-00009725 David Thoreau see civil disobedience and pOzC4tQhjKg-00038-00009726-00009911 William Ellery Channing contributed pOzC4tQhjKg-00039-00009912-00010184 literary works against war other names pOzC4tQhjKg-00040-00010185-00010376 associated with the movement include pOzC4tQhjKg-00041-00010377-00010466 William Ladd pOzC4tQhjKg-00042-00010467-00010700 Noah Worcester Thomas Cogswell up a man pOzC4tQhjKg-00043-00010701-00010976 a Simeon many peace societies were pOzC4tQhjKg-00044-00010977-00011162 formed throughout the United States the pOzC4tQhjKg-00045-00011163-00011309 most prominent of which being the pOzC4tQhjKg-00046-00011310-00011573 American Peace Society numerous pOzC4tQhjKg-00047-00011574-00011861 periodicals eg the advocate of peace and pOzC4tQhjKg-00048-00011862-00012125 books were also produced the book of pOzC4tQhjKg-00049-00012126-00012317 peace an anthology produced by the pOzC4tQhjKg-00050-00012318-00012623 American Peace Society in 1845 must pOzC4tQhjKg-00051-00012624-00012760 surely rank as one of the most pOzC4tQhjKg-00052-00012761-00012977 remarkable works of anti-war literature pOzC4tQhjKg-00053-00012978-00013175 ever produced a recurring theme in this pOzC4tQhjKg-00054-00013176-00013304 movement was the call for the pOzC4tQhjKg-00055-00013305-00013499 establishment of an International Court pOzC4tQhjKg-00056-00013500-00013663 which would adjudicate disputes between pOzC4tQhjKg-00057-00013665-00013940 nations another distinct feature of pOzC4tQhjKg-00058-00013941-00014153 Antebellum anti-war literature was the pOzC4tQhjKg-00059-00014154-00014344 emphasis on how war contributed to a pOzC4tQhjKg-00060-00014345-00014534 moral decline in brutalization of pOzC4tQhjKg-00061-00014535-00014936 society in general pOzC4tQhjKg-00062-00014937-00015480 topic American Civil War pOzC4tQhjKg-00063-00015481-00015717 a key event in the early history of the pOzC4tQhjKg-00064-00015718-00015936 modern anti-war stance in literature and pOzC4tQhjKg-00065-00015937-00016183 society was the American Civil War where pOzC4tQhjKg-00066-00016184-00016378 it culminated in the candidacy of George pOzC4tQhjKg-00067-00016379-00016561 McClellan for president of the United pOzC4tQhjKg-00068-00016562-00016855 States as a piece Democrat against pOzC4tQhjKg-00069-00016856-00017100 incumbent President Abraham Lincoln the pOzC4tQhjKg-00070-00017101-00017286 outlines of the anti-war stance are pOzC4tQhjKg-00071-00017287-00017461 seemed the argument that the costs of pOzC4tQhjKg-00072-00017462-00017647 maintaining the present conflict are not pOzC4tQhjKg-00073-00017648-00017820 worth the gains which can be made the pOzC4tQhjKg-00074-00017821-00018012 appeal to end the horrors of war and the pOzC4tQhjKg-00075-00018013-00018211 argument that war is being waged for the pOzC4tQhjKg-00076-00018212-00018483 profit of particular interests during pOzC4tQhjKg-00077-00018484-00018681 the war the New York draft riots were pOzC4tQhjKg-00078-00018682-00018880 started as violent protests against pOzC4tQhjKg-00079-00018881-00019059 Abraham Lincoln's enrollment act of pOzC4tQhjKg-00080-00019060-00019258 conscription plan to draft men to fight pOzC4tQhjKg-00081-00019259-00019545 in the war the outrage over conscription pOzC4tQhjKg-00082-00019546-00019864 was augmented by the ability to buy your pOzC4tQhjKg-00083-00019865-00020022 way out the amount of which could only pOzC4tQhjKg-00084-00020023-00020308 be afforded by the wealthy after the war pOzC4tQhjKg-00085-00020309-00020517 the Red Badge of Courage described the pOzC4tQhjKg-00086-00020518-00020733 chaos and sense of death which resulted pOzC4tQhjKg-00087-00020734-00020934 from the changing style of combat away pOzC4tQhjKg-00088-00020935-00021130 from the set engagement and towards two pOzC4tQhjKg-00089-00021131-00021330 armies engaging in continuous battle pOzC4tQhjKg-00090-00021331-00021707 over a wide area pOzC4tQhjKg-00091-00021708-00022076 topic second Boer War pOzC4tQhjKg-00092-00022077-00022243 you pOzC4tQhjKg-00093-00022244-00022447 William Thomas stead formed an pOzC4tQhjKg-00094-00022448-00022657 organization against the second Boer War pOzC4tQhjKg-00095-00022658-00023069 to stop the war committee pOzC4tQhjKg-00096-00023070-00023597 Topic World War one pOzC4tQhjKg-00097-00023598-00023915 in Britain in 1914 the public schools pOzC4tQhjKg-00098-00023916-00024133 offices training core annual camp was pOzC4tQhjKg-00099-00024134-00024329 held at Tidworth Pennings near Salisbury pOzC4tQhjKg-00100-00024330-00024590 Plain head of the British Army Lord pOzC4tQhjKg-00101-00024591-00024788 Kitchener was to review the cadets but pOzC4tQhjKg-00102-00024789-00024947 the amendments of the war prevented him pOzC4tQhjKg-00103-00024948-00025217 general Horace Smith Dorian was sent pOzC4tQhjKg-00104-00025218-00025517 instead he surprised the two or 3,000 pOzC4tQhjKg-00105-00025518-00025700 cadets by declaring in the words of pOzC4tQhjKg-00106-00025701-00025892 Donald Christopher Smith a Bermudian pOzC4tQhjKg-00107-00025893-00026108 cadet who was present that war should be pOzC4tQhjKg-00108-00026108-00026320 avoided at almost any cost that war pOzC4tQhjKg-00109-00026322-00026432 would solve nothing pOzC4tQhjKg-00110-00026433-00026564 that the whole of Europe and more pOzC4tQhjKg-00111-00026564-00026750 besides would be reduced to ruin and pOzC4tQhjKg-00112-00026751-00026933 that the loss of life would be so large pOzC4tQhjKg-00113-00026933-00027086 that whole populations would be pOzC4tQhjKg-00114-00027087-00027377 decimated in our ignorance I and many of pOzC4tQhjKg-00115-00027377-00027565 us felt almost ashamed of a British pOzC4tQhjKg-00116-00027566-00027770 general who uttered such depressing and pOzC4tQhjKg-00117-00027770-00027970 unpatriotic sentiments but during the pOzC4tQhjKg-00118-00027972-00028177 next four years those of us who survived pOzC4tQhjKg-00119-00028179-00028382 the Holocaust probably not more than pOzC4tQhjKg-00120-00028383-00028562 one-quarter of us learned how right the pOzC4tQhjKg-00121-00028563-00028720 generals prognosis was and how pOzC4tQhjKg-00122-00028722-00028879 courageous he had been to utter it pOzC4tQhjKg-00123-00028880-00029117 having voiced these sentiments did not pOzC4tQhjKg-00124-00029118-00029336 hinder Smith Dorian's career or prevent pOzC4tQhjKg-00125-00029337-00029504 him from carrying out his duty in the pOzC4tQhjKg-00126-00029505-00029662 First World War to the best of his pOzC4tQhjKg-00127-00029663-00029914 abilities with the increasing pOzC4tQhjKg-00128-00029916-00030133 mechanization of war opposition to its pOzC4tQhjKg-00129-00030135-00030323 horrors group particularly in the wake pOzC4tQhjKg-00130-00030324-00030477 of the First World War pOzC4tQhjKg-00131-00030478-00030743 European avant-garde cultural movements pOzC4tQhjKg-00132-00030744-00030987 such as Dada were explicitly anti-war pOzC4tQhjKg-00133-00030988-00031339 the Espionage Act of 1917 and the pOzC4tQhjKg-00134-00031341-00031612 Sedition Act of 1918 gave the American pOzC4tQhjKg-00135-00031613-00031742 authorities the right to close pOzC4tQhjKg-00136-00031743-00031967 newspapers and jailed individuals for pOzC4tQhjKg-00137-00031968-00032395 having anti-war views On June 16 1918 pOzC4tQhjKg-00138-00032397-00032645 Eugene v Debs made an anti-war speech pOzC4tQhjKg-00139-00032645-00032821 and was arrested under the Espionage Act pOzC4tQhjKg-00140-00032822-00033202 of 1917 he was convicted sentenced to pOzC4tQhjKg-00141-00033203-00033419 serve ten years in prison but president pOzC4tQhjKg-00142-00033420-00033614 warren g harding commuted his sentence pOzC4tQhjKg-00143-00033615-00034122 on December 25th 1921 pOzC4tQhjKg-00144-00034123-00034670 topic between the world wars pOzC4tQhjKg-00145-00034671-00034991 in 1924 Ernst Friedrich published krieg pOzC4tQhjKg-00146-00034992-00035237 dumb creek war against war an album of pOzC4tQhjKg-00147-00035238-00035447 photographs drawn from German military pOzC4tQhjKg-00148-00035448-00035627 and medical archives from the first pOzC4tQhjKg-00149-00035628-00035879 world war in regarding the pain of pOzC4tQhjKg-00150-00035880-00036080 others sonntag describes the book as pOzC4tQhjKg-00151-00036081-00036285 photography as shock therapy that was pOzC4tQhjKg-00152-00036286-00036590 designed to horrify and demoralize it pOzC4tQhjKg-00153-00036591-00036806 was in the 1930s that the Western pOzC4tQhjKg-00154-00036807-00036992 anti-war movement took shape to which pOzC4tQhjKg-00155-00036993-00037196 the political and organizational roots pOzC4tQhjKg-00156-00037197-00037373 of most of the existing movement can be pOzC4tQhjKg-00157-00037374-00037649 traced characteristics of the anti-war pOzC4tQhjKg-00158-00037650-00037856 movement included opposition to the pOzC4tQhjKg-00159-00037857-00038015 corporate interests perceived as pOzC4tQhjKg-00160-00038016-00038231 benefiting from war to the status quo pOzC4tQhjKg-00161-00038232-00038399 which was trading the lives of the young pOzC4tQhjKg-00162-00038400-00038576 for the comforts of those who are older pOzC4tQhjKg-00163-00038577-00038771 the concept that those who were drafted pOzC4tQhjKg-00164-00038772-00038936 were from poor families and would be pOzC4tQhjKg-00165-00038937-00039119 fighting a war in place of privileged pOzC4tQhjKg-00166-00039120-00039305 individuals who were able to avoid the pOzC4tQhjKg-00167-00039306-00039500 draft and military service and to the pOzC4tQhjKg-00168-00039501-00039695 lack of input in decision-making that pOzC4tQhjKg-00169-00039696-00039836 those who would die in the conflict pOzC4tQhjKg-00170-00039837-00040010 would have in deciding to engage in it pOzC4tQhjKg-00171-00040011-00040421 in 1933 the Oxford Union resolved in its pOzC4tQhjKg-00172-00040422-00040663 Oxford pledge that this house will in no pOzC4tQhjKg-00173-00040664-00040886 circumstances fight for its king and pOzC4tQhjKg-00174-00040887-00041324 country many War veterans including u.s. pOzC4tQhjKg-00175-00041325-00041564 General Smedley Butler spoke out against pOzC4tQhjKg-00176-00041565-00041744 Wars and war profiteering on their pOzC4tQhjKg-00177-00041745-00042038 return to civilian life veterans were pOzC4tQhjKg-00178-00042039-00042218 still extremely cynical about the pOzC4tQhjKg-00179-00042219-00042419 motivations for entering World War one pOzC4tQhjKg-00180-00042420-00042611 but many were willing to fight later in pOzC4tQhjKg-00181-00042612-00042794 the Spanish Civil War indicating that pOzC4tQhjKg-00182-00042795-00043022 pacifism was not always the motivation pOzC4tQhjKg-00183-00043023-00043271 these trends were depicted in novels pOzC4tQhjKg-00184-00043272-00043442 such as All Quiet on the Western Front pOzC4tQhjKg-00185-00043443-00043643 for Whom the Bell Tolls and Johnny got pOzC4tQhjKg-00186-00043644-00043976 his gun pOzC4tQhjKg-00187-00043977-00044522 Topic World War two pOzC4tQhjKg-00188-00044523-00044769 opposition to world war ii was most pOzC4tQhjKg-00189-00044770-00044940 vocal during its early period and pOzC4tQhjKg-00190-00044941-00045129 stronger still before it started while pOzC4tQhjKg-00191-00045130-00045309 appeasement and isolationism were pOzC4tQhjKg-00192-00045310-00045548 considered viable diplomatic options pOzC4tQhjKg-00193-00045549-00045822 communist led organizations including pOzC4tQhjKg-00194-00045823-00045972 veterans of the Spanish Civil War pOzC4tQhjKg-00195-00045973-00046187 opposed the war during the period of the pOzC4tQhjKg-00196-00046188-00046371 Hitler Stalin pact but then turned into pOzC4tQhjKg-00197-00046372-00046596 hawks after Germany invaded the Soviet pOzC4tQhjKg-00198-00046597-00046760 Union pOzC4tQhjKg-00199-00046761-00046990 the war seemed for a time to set pOzC4tQhjKg-00200-00046991-00047192 anti-war movements at a distinct social pOzC4tQhjKg-00201-00047193-00047435 disadvantage very few mostly ardent pOzC4tQhjKg-00202-00047436-00047657 pacifists continued to argue against the pOzC4tQhjKg-00203-00047658-00047899 war and its results at the time however pOzC4tQhjKg-00204-00047900-00048130 the Cold War followed with the post-war pOzC4tQhjKg-00205-00048131-00048332 realignment and the opposition resumed pOzC4tQhjKg-00206-00048333-00048637 the grim realities of modern combat and pOzC4tQhjKg-00207-00048638-00048865 the nature of mechanized society ensured pOzC4tQhjKg-00208-00048866-00049021 that the anti-war viewpoint found pOzC4tQhjKg-00209-00049022-00049208 presentation in catch-22 pOzC4tQhjKg-00210-00049209-00049399 slaughterhouse-five and the tin drum pOzC4tQhjKg-00211-00049400-00049670 this sentiment grew in strength as the pOzC4tQhjKg-00212-00049671-00049843 Cold War seemed to present the situation pOzC4tQhjKg-00213-00049844-00050099 of an unending series of conflicts which pOzC4tQhjKg-00214-00050100-00050264 were fought at terrible cost to the pOzC4tQhjKg-00215-00050265-00050642 younger generations pOzC4tQhjKg-00216-00050643-00051164 topic Vietnam War pOzC4tQhjKg-00217-00051165-00051433 organized opposition to u.s. involvement pOzC4tQhjKg-00218-00051434-00051662 in the Vietnam War began slowly and in pOzC4tQhjKg-00219-00051663-00051976 small numbers in 1964 on various college pOzC4tQhjKg-00220-00051977-00052165 campuses in the United States and pOzC4tQhjKg-00221-00052166-00052555 quickly as the war grew deadlier in 1967 pOzC4tQhjKg-00222-00052557-00052787 a coalition of anti-war activists formed pOzC4tQhjKg-00223-00052788-00052982 the national mobilization committee to pOzC4tQhjKg-00224-00052983-00053182 end the war in Vietnam which organized pOzC4tQhjKg-00225-00053183-00053416 several large anti-war demonstrations pOzC4tQhjKg-00226-00053417-00053788 between the late 1960s in 1972 pOzC4tQhjKg-00227-00053789-00054029 countercultural songs organizations pOzC4tQhjKg-00228-00054029-00054266 plays and other literary works encourage pOzC4tQhjKg-00229-00054266-00054479 the spirit of non-conformism Peace and pOzC4tQhjKg-00230-00054479-00054737 anti-establishment Arianism this pOzC4tQhjKg-00231-00054738-00054938 anti-war sentiment developed during a pOzC4tQhjKg-00232-00054939-00055160 time of unprecedented student activism pOzC4tQhjKg-00233-00055161-00055325 and right on the heels of the civil pOzC4tQhjKg-00234-00055326-00055511 rights movement and was reinforced in pOzC4tQhjKg-00235-00055512-00055664 numbers by the demographically pOzC4tQhjKg-00236-00055665-00055954 significant baby boomers it quickly grew pOzC4tQhjKg-00237-00055955-00056086 to include a wide and varied pOzC4tQhjKg-00238-00056087-00056291 cross-section of Americans from all pOzC4tQhjKg-00239-00056291-00056564 walks of life the anti-vietnam war pOzC4tQhjKg-00240-00056565-00056729 movement is often considered to have pOzC4tQhjKg-00241-00056729-00056936 been a major factor affecting America's pOzC4tQhjKg-00242-00056937-00057185 involvement in the war itself many pOzC4tQhjKg-00243-00057186-00057404 Vietnam veterans including the former pOzC4tQhjKg-00244-00057404-00057653 Secretary of State and former US Senator pOzC4tQhjKg-00245-00057654-00057860 John Kerry and disabled veteran Ron pOzC4tQhjKg-00246-00057861-00058061 Kovic spoke out against the Vietnam War pOzC4tQhjKg-00247-00058062-00058544 on their return to the United States pOzC4tQhjKg-00248-00058545-00059131 topic south african border war pOzC4tQhjKg-00249-00059132-00059354 opposition to the south african border pOzC4tQhjKg-00250-00059355-00059579 war spread to a general resistance to pOzC4tQhjKg-00251-00059580-00059867 the apartheid military organizations pOzC4tQhjKg-00252-00059868-00060072 such as the end conscription campaign pOzC4tQhjKg-00253-00060073-00060251 and committee on south african war pOzC4tQhjKg-00254-00060252-00060309 resisters pOzC4tQhjKg-00255-00060310-00060587 were set up many opposed the war at this pOzC4tQhjKg-00256-00060588-00060961 time pOzC4tQhjKg-00257-00060962-00061536 topic 2001 Afghanistan war pOzC4tQhjKg-00258-00061537-00061776 there was initially little opposition to pOzC4tQhjKg-00259-00061777-00062042 the 2001 Afghanistan war in the United pOzC4tQhjKg-00260-00062044-00062238 States and the United Kingdom which was pOzC4tQhjKg-00261-00062239-00062460 seen as a response to the September 11th pOzC4tQhjKg-00262-00062461-00062739 2001 terrorist attacks and was supported pOzC4tQhjKg-00263-00062740-00062932 by a majority of the American public pOzC4tQhjKg-00264-00062933-00063254 most vocal opposition came from pacifist pOzC4tQhjKg-00265-00063255-00063450 groups and groups promoting a leftist pOzC4tQhjKg-00266-00063451-00063657 political agenda in the United States pOzC4tQhjKg-00267-00063658-00063939 the group ANS wer was one of the most pOzC4tQhjKg-00268-00063940-00064188 visible organizers of anti-war protests pOzC4tQhjKg-00269-00064189-00064376 although that group faced considerable pOzC4tQhjKg-00270-00064377-00064578 controversy over allegations it was a pOzC4tQhjKg-00271-00064579-00064761 front for the extremist Stalinist pOzC4tQhjKg-00272-00064762-00065094 Workers world party over time opposition pOzC4tQhjKg-00273-00065095-00065307 to the war in Afghanistan has grown more pOzC4tQhjKg-00274-00065308-00065507 widespread partly as a result of pOzC4tQhjKg-00275-00065508-00065640 weariness with the length of the pOzC4tQhjKg-00276-00065641-00065844 conflict and partly as a result of a pOzC4tQhjKg-00277-00065845-00066000 conflating of the conflict with the pOzC4tQhjKg-00278-00066001-00066485 unpopular war in Iraq pOzC4tQhjKg-00279-00066486-00066926 topic Iraq war pOzC4tQhjKg-00280-00066927-00067138 the anti-war position gained renewed pOzC4tQhjKg-00281-00067139-00067340 support and attention in the build-up to pOzC4tQhjKg-00282-00067341-00067628 the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the US and pOzC4tQhjKg-00283-00067629-00067898 its allies millions of people staged pOzC4tQhjKg-00284-00067899-00068113 mass protests across the world in the pOzC4tQhjKg-00285-00068114-00068294 immediate prelude to the invasion and pOzC4tQhjKg-00286-00068295-00068471 demonstrations and other forms of pOzC4tQhjKg-00287-00068472-00068657 anti-war activism have continued pOzC4tQhjKg-00288-00068658-00068903 throughout the occupation the primary pOzC4tQhjKg-00289-00068904-00069074 opposition within the u.s. to the pOzC4tQhjKg-00290-00069075-00069290 continued occupation of Iraq has come pOzC4tQhjKg-00291-00069291-00069551 from the grassroots opposition to the pOzC4tQhjKg-00292-00069552-00069722 conflict how it had been fought and pOzC4tQhjKg-00293-00069723-00069884 complications during the aftermath pOzC4tQhjKg-00294-00069885-00070112 period divided public sentiment in the pOzC4tQhjKg-00295-00070113-00070319 u.s. resulting in majority public pOzC4tQhjKg-00296-00070320-00070501 opinion turning against the war for the pOzC4tQhjKg-00297-00070502-00070763 first time in the spring of 2004 a turn pOzC4tQhjKg-00298-00070764-00071032 which has held since many American pOzC4tQhjKg-00299-00071033-00071246 writers against the war like Naomi Wolf pOzC4tQhjKg-00300-00071247-00071450 were labeled conspiratorial due to their pOzC4tQhjKg-00301-00071451-00071638 opposition with others choosing to post pOzC4tQhjKg-00302-00071639-00071857 their anti-war writings anonymously such pOzC4tQhjKg-00303-00071858-00072092 as the Anonymous conspiracy author circa pOzC4tQhjKg-00304-00072093-00072386 fall the financial website Zero Hedge pOzC4tQhjKg-00305-00072387-00072560 offered its anti-war riders the pOzC4tQhjKg-00306-00072561-00072734 protection of the anonymous pseudonym pOzC4tQhjKg-00307-00072735-00072935 Tyler Durden for those exposing war pOzC4tQhjKg-00308-00072936-00073201 profiteering the American country music pOzC4tQhjKg-00309-00073202-00073430 band Dixie Chicks opposition to the war pOzC4tQhjKg-00310-00073431-00073661 caused many radio stations to stop pOzC4tQhjKg-00311-00073662-00073801 playing their records but who were pOzC4tQhjKg-00312-00073802-00073994 supported in their anti-war stance by pOzC4tQhjKg-00313-00073995-00074180 the equally anti-war country music pOzC4tQhjKg-00314-00074181-00074360 legend Merle Haggard who in the summer pOzC4tQhjKg-00315-00074361-00074636 of 2003 released a song critical of US pOzC4tQhjKg-00316-00074637-00074951 media coverage of the Iraq war anti-war pOzC4tQhjKg-00317-00074952-00075113 groups protested during both the pOzC4tQhjKg-00318-00075114-00075401 Democratic National Convention in 2008 pOzC4tQhjKg-00319-00075402-00075647 Republican National Convention protests pOzC4tQhjKg-00320-00075648-00075887 held in st. Paul Minnesota in September pOzC4tQhjKg-00321-00075888-00076248 2008 pOzC4tQhjKg-00322-00076249-00076824 topic possible war against Iran pOzC4tQhjKg-00323-00076825-00077071 organized opposition to a possible pOzC4tQhjKg-00324-00077072-00077301 future military attack against Iran by pOzC4tQhjKg-00325-00077302-00077457 the United States as known to have pOzC4tQhjKg-00326-00077458-00077850 started during 2005-2006 beginning in pOzC4tQhjKg-00327-00077851-00078141 early 2005 journalists activists and pOzC4tQhjKg-00328-00078142-00078369 academics such as Seymour Hersh scott pOzC4tQhjKg-00329-00078370-00078588 ritter joseph serine Choni and Jorge E pOzC4tQhjKg-00330-00078589-00078790 Hersh began publishing claims that pOzC4tQhjKg-00331-00078791-00078984 united states concerns over the alleged pOzC4tQhjKg-00332-00078985-00079161 threat posed by the possibility that pOzC4tQhjKg-00333-00079162-00079356 Iran may have a nuclear weapons program pOzC4tQhjKg-00334-00079357-00079560 might lead the u.s. government to take pOzC4tQhjKg-00335-00079561-00079771 military action against that country in pOzC4tQhjKg-00336-00079772-00080013 the future these reports and the pOzC4tQhjKg-00337-00080014-00080187 concurrent escalation of tensions pOzC4tQhjKg-00338-00080188-00080325 between Iran and some Western pOzC4tQhjKg-00339-00080326-00080529 governments prompted the formation of pOzC4tQhjKg-00340-00080530-00080736 grassroots organizations including pOzC4tQhjKg-00341-00080737-00080943 campaign against sanctions and military pOzC4tQhjKg-00342-00080944-00081159 intervention in Iran in the US and the pOzC4tQhjKg-00343-00081160-00081348 United Kingdom to advocate against pOzC4tQhjKg-00344-00081349-00081575 potential military strikes on Iran pOzC4tQhjKg-00345-00081576-00081796 additionally several individuals pOzC4tQhjKg-00346-00081797-00081984 grassroots organizations and pOzC4tQhjKg-00347-00081985-00082206 international governmental organizations pOzC4tQhjKg-00348-00082207-00082390 including the director general of the pOzC4tQhjKg-00349-00082391-00082580 International Atomic Energy Agency pOzC4tQhjKg-00350-00082581-00082857 Mohamed ElBaradei a former United pOzC4tQhjKg-00351-00082858-00083106 Nations weapons inspector in Iraq Scott pOzC4tQhjKg-00352-00083107-00083319 Ritter Nobel Prize winners including pOzC4tQhjKg-00353-00083320-00083400 Shirin Ebadi pOzC4tQhjKg-00354-00083401-00083596 Mairead corrigan maguire and Betty pOzC4tQhjKg-00355-00083597-00083815 Williams Harold Pinter and Jody Williams pOzC4tQhjKg-00356-00083816-00084060 campaign for nuclear disarmament code pOzC4tQhjKg-00357-00084061-00084324 pink the non-aligned movement of 118 pOzC4tQhjKg-00358-00084325-00084534 states and the Arab League have publicly pOzC4tQhjKg-00359-00084535-00084705 stated their opposition to a would-be pOzC4tQhjKg-00360-00084706-00085136 attack on Iran pOzC4tQhjKg-00361-00085137-00085603 epic war in Donbass pOzC4tQhjKg-00362-00085604-00085849 anti-war putin demonstrations took place pOzC4tQhjKg-00363-00085850-00086254 in moscow opposing the war in donbass ie pOzC4tQhjKg-00364-00086255-00086698 in the eastern Ukraine pOzC4tQhjKg-00365-00086699-00087010 topic Saudi Arabian LED intervention in pOzC4tQhjKg-00366-00087011-00087378 Yemen pOzC4tQhjKg-00367-00087379-00087926 topic arts and culture pOzC4tQhjKg-00368-00087927-00088286 English poet Robert Southey 1796 poem pOzC4tQhjKg-00369-00088287-00088454 after Blenheim as an early modern pOzC4tQhjKg-00370-00088455-00088715 example of anti-war literature it was pOzC4tQhjKg-00371-00088716-00088901 written generations after the Battle of pOzC4tQhjKg-00372-00088902-00089087 Blenheim but at a time when England was pOzC4tQhjKg-00373-00089088-00089407 again at war with France World War one pOzC4tQhjKg-00374-00089408-00089606 produced a generation of poets and pOzC4tQhjKg-00375-00089607-00089813 writers influenced by their experiences pOzC4tQhjKg-00376-00089814-00090076 in the war the work of poets including pOzC4tQhjKg-00377-00090077-00090236 Wilfred Owen and Siegfried Sassoon pOzC4tQhjKg-00378-00090237-00090440 exposed the contrast between the pOzC4tQhjKg-00379-00090441-00090635 realities of life in the trenches and pOzC4tQhjKg-00380-00090636-00090788 how the war was seen by the British pOzC4tQhjKg-00381-00090789-00090959 public at the time as well as the pOzC4tQhjKg-00382-00090960-00091181 earlier patriotic verse penned by Rupert pOzC4tQhjKg-00383-00091182-00091412 Brooke German writer Erich Maria pOzC4tQhjKg-00384-00091413-00091601 Remarque penned All Quiet on the Western pOzC4tQhjKg-00385-00091602-00091817 Front which having been adapted for pOzC4tQhjKg-00386-00091818-00092009 several mediums has become of the most pOzC4tQhjKg-00387-00092010-00092272 often cited pieces of anti-war media pOzC4tQhjKg-00388-00092273-00092621 Pablo Picasso's 1937 painting Guernica pOzC4tQhjKg-00389-00092622-00092857 on the other hand used abstraction pOzC4tQhjKg-00390-00092858-00093029 rather than realism to generate an pOzC4tQhjKg-00391-00093030-00093224 emotional response to the loss of life pOzC4tQhjKg-00392-00093225-00093371 from the fascist bombing of Guernica pOzC4tQhjKg-00393-00093372-00093676 during the Spanish Civil War American pOzC4tQhjKg-00394-00093677-00093875 author Kurt Vonnegut used science pOzC4tQhjKg-00395-00093876-00094136 fiction themes in his 1969 novel pOzC4tQhjKg-00396-00094137-00094307 slaughterhouse-five depicting the pOzC4tQhjKg-00397-00094308-00094531 bombing of Dresden in world war ii which pOzC4tQhjKg-00398-00094532-00094780 Vonnegut witnessed pOzC4tQhjKg-00399-00094781-00095035 the second half of the 20th century also pOzC4tQhjKg-00400-00095036-00095262 witnessed a strong anti-war presence in pOzC4tQhjKg-00401-00095263-00095499 other art forms including anti-war music pOzC4tQhjKg-00402-00095500-00095805 such as Eve of Destruction and one tin pOzC4tQhjKg-00403-00095806-00096048 soldier and films such as M asterisk a pOzC4tQhjKg-00404-00096049-00096312 sh and i brock opposing the Cold War in pOzC4tQhjKg-00405-00096313-00096561 general or specific conflict such as the pOzC4tQhjKg-00406-00096562-00096855 Vietnam War the current American war in pOzC4tQhjKg-00407-00096856-00097090 Iraq has also generated significant pOzC4tQhjKg-00408-00097091-00097297 artistic anti-war works including pOzC4tQhjKg-00409-00097298-00097479 filmmaker Michael Moore's Fahrenheit pOzC4tQhjKg-00410-00097480-00097725 9/11 which holds the box office record pOzC4tQhjKg-00411-00097726-00097921 for documentary films and Canadian pOzC4tQhjKg-00412-00097922-00098193 musician Neil Young's 2006 album living pOzC4tQhjKg-00413-00098194-00098544 with war pOzC4tQhjKg-00414-00098545-00098811 topic anti-war intellectual and pOzC4tQhjKg-00415-00098812-00099320 scientist activists in their work pOzC4tQhjKg-00416-00099321-00099546 various people have discussed the pOzC4tQhjKg-00417-00099547-00099753 philosophical question of whether war is pOzC4tQhjKg-00418-00099754-00099909 inevitable and how much it can be pOzC4tQhjKg-00419-00099910-00100089 avoided as well as how this can be pOzC4tQhjKg-00420-00100090-00100137 achieved pOzC4tQhjKg-00421-00100138-00100352 ie what are the necessities of peace pOzC4tQhjKg-00422-00100353-00100605 various people have discussed it from an pOzC4tQhjKg-00423-00100606-00100809 intellectual and philosophical point of pOzC4tQhjKg-00424-00100810-00101106 view various intellectuals not only have pOzC4tQhjKg-00425-00101107-00101250 discussed in public but have pOzC4tQhjKg-00426-00101251-00101481 participated or led anti-war campaigns pOzC4tQhjKg-00427-00101482-00101643 despite it is different to their main pOzC4tQhjKg-00428-00101644-00101901 areas of expertise they went out of pOzC4tQhjKg-00429-00101902-00102093 their professional comfort zone to warn pOzC4tQhjKg-00430-00102094-00102584 against or fight against Wars pOzC4tQhjKg-00431-00102585-00102828 topic philosophical possibility of pOzC4tQhjKg-00432-00102829-00103225 avoiding war pOzC4tQhjKg-00433-00103226-00103675 Emmanuel Kant in 1795 perpetual peace pOzC4tQhjKg-00434-00103676-00104035 zum you again Frieden Immanuel Kant pOzC4tQhjKg-00435-00104036-00104440 booklet on perpetual peace in 1795 pOzC4tQhjKg-00436-00104441-00104639 politically can't with one of the pOzC4tQhjKg-00437-00104640-00104822 earliest exponents of the idea that pOzC4tQhjKg-00438-00104823-00105010 perpetual peace could be secured through pOzC4tQhjKg-00439-00105011-00105221 universal democracy and international pOzC4tQhjKg-00440-00105222-00105529 cooperation Georg Wilhelm Friedrich pOzC4tQhjKg-00441-00105530-00105752 Hegel suggests war can never be ruled pOzC4tQhjKg-00442-00105753-00105947 out as one can never know when or if one pOzC4tQhjKg-00443-00105948-00106220 will occur however a peaceful revolution pOzC4tQhjKg-00444-00106221-00106481 is also possible according to Hegel when pOzC4tQhjKg-00445-00106482-00106640 the change is required to solve the pOzC4tQhjKg-00446-00106641-00106799 crisis are ascertained by thoughtful pOzC4tQhjKg-00447-00106800-00107000 insight and when this insight spreads pOzC4tQhjKg-00448-00107001-00107284 throughout the body politic see Hegelian pOzC4tQhjKg-00449-00107285-00107468 ISM some people claimed that Hegel pOzC4tQhjKg-00450-00107469-00107690 glorified war this is disputed heavily pOzC4tQhjKg-00451-00107691-00107941 this claim has always been based on pOzC4tQhjKg-00452-00107942-00108197 interpretations only Hegel's views are pOzC4tQhjKg-00453-00108198-00108361 often mistaken with the characters of pOzC4tQhjKg-00454-00108363-00108539 his books who are the subjects in pOzC4tQhjKg-00455-00108540-00108918 history pOzC4tQhjKg-00456-00108919-00109116 topic leading scientists and pOzC4tQhjKg-00457-00109117-00109328 intellectuals pOzC4tQhjKg-00458-00109329-00109485 you pOzC4tQhjKg-00459-00109486-00109714 here is a list of people who outside pOzC4tQhjKg-00460-00109715-00109903 this field have Authority and used their pOzC4tQhjKg-00461-00109904-00110098 influence and intellectual rigor favor pOzC4tQhjKg-00462-00110099-00110281 of in the cause of enlightening against pOzC4tQhjKg-00463-00110282-00110557 the war mongers linus pauling was pOzC4tQhjKg-00464-00110558-00110752 awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his pOzC4tQhjKg-00465-00110753-00110965 peace activism his second Nobel Prize pOzC4tQhjKg-00466-00110966-00111183 circulated multiple petitions among pOzC4tQhjKg-00467-00111184-00111499 scientists Sigmund Freud and Albert pOzC4tQhjKg-00468-00111500-00111742 Einstein had correspondences on violence pOzC4tQhjKg-00469-00111743-00111942 peace and human nature pOzC4tQhjKg-00470-00111943-00112192 Bertrand Russell mostly was a prominent pOzC4tQhjKg-00471-00112193-00112374 anti-war activist he championed pOzC4tQhjKg-00472-00112375-00112659 anti-imperialism occasionally he pOzC4tQhjKg-00473-00112660-00112870 advocated preventive nuclear war before pOzC4tQhjKg-00474-00112871-00113095 the opportunity provided by the atomic pOzC4tQhjKg-00475-00113096-00113329 monopoly as gone and welcomed with pOzC4tQhjKg-00476-00113330-00113632 enthusiasm world government he went to pOzC4tQhjKg-00477-00113633-00113851 prison for his pacifism during World War pOzC4tQhjKg-00478-00113852-00114066 one later he campaigned against Adolf pOzC4tQhjKg-00479-00114067-00114268 Hitler then criticized Stalinist pOzC4tQhjKg-00480-00114269-00114496 totalitarianism attacked the involvement pOzC4tQhjKg-00481-00114497-00114666 of the United States in the Vietnam War pOzC4tQhjKg-00482-00114667-00114871 and was an outspoken proponent of pOzC4tQhjKg-00483-00114872-00115216 nuclear disarmament in 1950 Russell was pOzC4tQhjKg-00484-00115217-00115429 awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature in pOzC4tQhjKg-00485-00115430-00115591 recognition of his varied and pOzC4tQhjKg-00486-00115592-00115744 significant writings in which he pOzC4tQhjKg-00487-00115745-00115939 champions humanitarian ideals and pOzC4tQhjKg-00488-00115940-00116221 freedom of thought topic manifestos and pOzC4tQhjKg-00489-00116222-00116395 statements by scientists and pOzC4tQhjKg-00490-00116396-00116626 intellectual activists Einstein Bertrand pOzC4tQhjKg-00491-00116627-00116752 Russell and eight other leading pOzC4tQhjKg-00492-00116753-00116968 scientists and intellectuals signed the pOzC4tQhjKg-00493-00116969-00117202 Russell Einstein manifesto issued July pOzC4tQhjKg-00494-00117203-00117568 9th 1955 the main out declaration of pOzC4tQhjKg-00495-00117569-00117952 July 15 to 1955 was signed by 52 Nobel pOzC4tQhjKg-00496-00117953-00118191 Prize laureates the dubrovnik pOzC4tQhjKg-00497-00118192-00118600 Philadelphia statement of 1974 1976 was pOzC4tQhjKg-00498-00118601-00118791 signed by Linus Pauling and others pOzC4tQhjKg-00499-00118792-00119109 topics see also topic references topic pOzC4tQhjKg-00500-00119110-00119376 further reading Farrar jr. Lancelot L pOzC4tQhjKg-00501-00119377-00119581 divide-and-conquer German efforts to pOzC4tQhjKg-00502-00119582-00119878 conclude a separate peace 1914 to 1918 pOzC4tQhjKg-00503-00119879-00120354 London East European quarterly 1978 Josh pOzC4tQhjKg-00504-00120355-00120607 Conrad H Armageddon revisited peace pOzC4tQhjKg-00505-00120608-00120823 research perspectives on world war one pOzC4tQhjKg-00506-00120824-00121282 peace and change 7.1 to to 1981 109 to pOzC4tQhjKg-00507-00121283-00121720 118 paddler Niklas Norman's triumph the pOzC4tQhjKg-00508-00121721-00121906 transcendent language of self-immolation pOzC4tQhjKg-00509-00121907-00122376 quaker history fall 2105 18 to 39 pOzC4tQhjKg-00510-00122377-00122623 Patterson David asked the search for pOzC4tQhjKg-00511-00122624-00122878 negotiated peace women's activism and pOzC4tQhjKg-00512-00122879-00123201 diplomacy in World War one route ledge pOzC4tQhjKg-00513-00123202-00123706 2008 pOzC4tQhjKg-00514-00123707-00124173 external links pOzC4tQhjKg-00515-00124174-00124391 guide to anti-war websites by the pOzC4tQhjKg-00516-00124392-00124676 Guardian essays and speeches from the pOzC4tQhjKg-00517-00124677-00125046 antibellum era peace movement pU7SdNMK2EI-00000-00000000-00000473 here we go pU7SdNMK2EI-00001-00000474-00001002 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00002-00001003-00001369 there are no Heroes here tonight pU7SdNMK2EI-00003-00001370-00001621 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00004-00001622-00002215 you're just a damsel in a dress pU7SdNMK2EI-00005-00002216-00002875 no one can save you from yourself pU7SdNMK2EI-00006-00002876-00003184 anyway I'm gonna take flight now pU7SdNMK2EI-00007-00003185-00003493 I guess pU7SdNMK2EI-00008-00003494-00003822 but did you really think I was somebody pU7SdNMK2EI-00009-00003823-00003959 alter ego pU7SdNMK2EI-00010-00003960-00004156 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00011-00004157-00004699 I saw that I dress well and I sit tight pU7SdNMK2EI-00012-00004700-00005038 and what happened was you thought the pU7SdNMK2EI-00013-00005039-00005322 best of me pU7SdNMK2EI-00014-00005323-00005766 but there are no Heroes here tonight pU7SdNMK2EI-00015-00005767-00005977 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00016-00005978-00006386 I have no powers pU7SdNMK2EI-00017-00006387-00007405 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00018-00007406-00007692 here tonight pU7SdNMK2EI-00019-00007693-00008195 and I won't give my life just the easier pU7SdNMK2EI-00020-00008196-00008471 of your sins pU7SdNMK2EI-00021-00008472-00008925 cause if I did we'd both be digmatized pU7SdNMK2EI-00022-00008926-00009055 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00023-00009056-00009440 in a story like that nobody wins pU7SdNMK2EI-00024-00009441-00009931 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00025-00009932-00010255 anymore pU7SdNMK2EI-00026-00010256-00011063 and anyway changing Is My Kryptonite you pU7SdNMK2EI-00027-00011064-00011503 you but you can't become happy pU7SdNMK2EI-00028-00011504-00011927 there are no Heroes here tonight pU7SdNMK2EI-00029-00011928-00012287 oh pU7SdNMK2EI-00030-00012288-00012438 I'm nervous pU7SdNMK2EI-00031-00012439-00012780 I have no mission pU7SdNMK2EI-00032-00012781-00013303 why did it isn't trying to fix you pU7SdNMK2EI-00033-00013304-00013608 are we're all heroes pU7SdNMK2EI-00034-00013609-00014013 and we're all victims pU7SdNMK2EI-00035-00014015-00014861 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00036-00014862-00015597 foreign pU7SdNMK2EI-00037-00015597-00016513 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00038-00016514-00016903 thank you pU7SdNMK2EI-00039-00016904-00017255 maybe once the world had all these pU7SdNMK2EI-00040-00017256-00017508 demigods pU7SdNMK2EI-00041-00017509-00017789 and maybe they'd have done what you've pU7SdNMK2EI-00042-00017790-00018108 been praying for pU7SdNMK2EI-00043-00018109-00018455 and maybe what was true once has just pU7SdNMK2EI-00044-00018456-00018597 fallen into me pU7SdNMK2EI-00045-00018598-00018772 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00046-00018773-00019314 there are no Heroes anymore pU7SdNMK2EI-00047-00019315-00019564 now maybe I'm wrong pU7SdNMK2EI-00048-00019565-00019679 I know pU7SdNMK2EI-00049-00019680-00019939 it right pU7SdNMK2EI-00050-00019940-00020342 there are no Heroes here tonight pU7SdNMK2EI-00051-00020343-00022547 [Music] pU7SdNMK2EI-00052-00022548-00022864 hello thank you so much pU7SdNMK2EI-00053-00022865-00023153 my name is Danny horvitz and I am so pU7SdNMK2EI-00054-00023154-00023297 pleased to be with you here tonight pU7SdNMK2EI-00055-00023298-00023453 thank you all for coming out thank you pU7SdNMK2EI-00056-00023454-00023669 all for giving me your time pU7SdNMK2EI-00057-00023670-00023999 um I uh I I won't be talking to the pU7SdNMK2EI-00058-00024000-00024278 audience too much because I don't pVU-wmIr0iM-00000-00000000-00000179 hi in this video we're going to talk pVU-wmIr0iM-00001-00000180-00000289 about the concepts of stereochemistry pVU-wmIr0iM-00002-00000290-00000923 and chirality the first definition that pVU-wmIr0iM-00003-00000924-00001091 will look at the definition for isomer pVU-wmIr0iM-00004-00001092-00001340 as some other different molecules with pVU-wmIr0iM-00005-00001341-00001612 the same chemical formula an example pVU-wmIr0iM-00006-00001613-00002491 would be pVU-wmIr0iM-00007-00002492-00002676 if you look at the formula for both they pVU-wmIr0iM-00008-00002677-00002833 have exactly the same formula and yet pVU-wmIr0iM-00009-00002834-00002992 they are very clearly different pVU-wmIr0iM-00010-00002993-00003585 molecules pVU-wmIr0iM-00011-00003586-00003859 now one class of isomers would be pVU-wmIr0iM-00012-00003860-00004086 constitutional isomers that would be the pVU-wmIr0iM-00013-00004087-00004399 exact same as that example that I just pVU-wmIr0iM-00014-00004400-00005041 gave you on the last slide these are pVU-wmIr0iM-00015-00005042-00005299 constitutional isomers same formula pVU-wmIr0iM-00016-00005300-00005518 different molecules and to be pVU-wmIr0iM-00017-00005519-00005671 constitutional they have to have their pVU-wmIr0iM-00018-00005672-00006154 atoms connected differently the stereo pVU-wmIr0iM-00019-00006155-00006363 isomers are a type of isomers so we're pVU-wmIr0iM-00020-00006364-00006510 talking about still different molecules pVU-wmIr0iM-00021-00006511-00006727 here that have the same chemical pVU-wmIr0iM-00022-00006728-00006916 formulas but this time they have the pVU-wmIr0iM-00023-00006917-00007245 same connectivity now although they have pVU-wmIr0iM-00024-00007247-00007387 the same connectivity to different pVU-wmIr0iM-00025-00007388-00007537 molecules and we know that because they pVU-wmIr0iM-00026-00007538-00007729 have different arrangement other atoms pVU-wmIr0iM-00027-00007730-00008034 in space will go directly to look at two pVU-wmIr0iM-00028-00008036-00008335 different types of stereo isomers the pVU-wmIr0iM-00029-00008336-00008533 first type of stereo isomer known as pVU-wmIr0iM-00030-00008534-00008743 enantiomer enantiomers are pVU-wmIr0iM-00031-00008744-00009067 non-superimposable mirror images so for pVU-wmIr0iM-00032-00009068-00010426 example pVU-wmIr0iM-00033-00010427-00010653 by Kate this molecule and I encourage pVU-wmIr0iM-00034-00010654-00010881 you to make a model of it and we imagine pVU-wmIr0iM-00035-00010882-00011106 there's a mirror plane to the right of pVU-wmIr0iM-00036-00011107-00011313 the molecule so so there's a small pVU-wmIr0iM-00037-00011314-00011494 actual we're looking in the mirror and pVU-wmIr0iM-00038-00011495-00011617 what would it would see was flush it pVU-wmIr0iM-00039-00011618-00011703 back at it pVU-wmIr0iM-00040-00011704-00011949 hydrogen is closest to the mirror plane pVU-wmIr0iM-00041-00011950-00012448 then oxygen same angle upwards up to the pVU-wmIr0iM-00042-00012449-00013866 methyl pVU-wmIr0iM-00043-00013866-00014088 and if you make a model of both of these pVU-wmIr0iM-00044-00014088-00014283 molecules you'll see they are in fact pVU-wmIr0iM-00045-00014284-00014613 different molecules so because there are pVU-wmIr0iM-00046-00014613-00014766 image there because there are mirror pVU-wmIr0iM-00047-00014766-00015876 images they are termed enantiomer the pVU-wmIr0iM-00048-00015877-00016071 other type of stereo isomer is a pVU-wmIr0iM-00049-00016072-00016293 diastereomer these are the categories pVU-wmIr0iM-00050-00016294-00016533 stereo isomers that are not enantiomers pVU-wmIr0iM-00051-00016534-00016713 so basically everything that doesn't fit pVU-wmIr0iM-00052-00016714-00016971 in the category of enantiomer there are pVU-wmIr0iM-00053-00016972-00017094 a number of different examples of pVU-wmIr0iM-00054-00017095-00017358 diastereomers one type of example will pVU-wmIr0iM-00055-00017359-00017643 be an alkene in which one methyl group pVU-wmIr0iM-00056-00017644-00018186 is trans to the other methyl group the pVU-wmIr0iM-00057-00018187-00018366 left in this case the two methyl groups pVU-wmIr0iM-00058-00018367-00018627 on the same side of the double bond so pVU-wmIr0iM-00059-00018628-00019436 these are diastereomers other examples pVU-wmIr0iM-00060-00019437-00019866 be a case like this where we have the pVU-wmIr0iM-00061-00019867-00020088 hydroxyl and the bromine fist or on the pVU-wmIr0iM-00062-00020089-00020705 same side of the molecule to each other pVU-wmIr0iM-00063-00020706-00020925 two molecules that have their atoms pVU-wmIr0iM-00064-00020926-00021228 connected exactly the same way but pVU-wmIr0iM-00065-00021229-00021384 differently arranged other atoms in the pVU-wmIr0iM-00066-00021385-00021561 face so for example here the differences pVU-wmIr0iM-00067-00021562-00021786 their orientation configuration of that pVU-wmIr0iM-00068-00021787-00022110 hydroxyl group because these are not pVU-wmIr0iM-00069-00022111-00022275 mirror images and you can always double pVU-wmIr0iM-00070-00022276-00022464 check that by using a model we turn pVU-wmIr0iM-00071-00022465-00023012 these two diastereomers of each other pVU-wmIr0iM-00072-00023013-00023400 so in summary isomers have the same pVU-wmIr0iM-00073-00023401-00023597 molecular formula but are different pVU-wmIr0iM-00074-00023598-00023802 molecules there are two classes of pVU-wmIr0iM-00075-00023803-00023969 isomers that can be constitutional pVU-wmIr0iM-00076-00023970-00024159 isomers the different molecules that pVU-wmIr0iM-00077-00024160-00024342 have their atoms connected differently pVU-wmIr0iM-00078-00024343-00024669 in space stereo isomers have the same pVU-wmIr0iM-00079-00024670-00024875 conductivity as their atoms but differ pVU-wmIr0iM-00080-00024876-00025017 in the arrangement of their atoms in pVU-wmIr0iM-00081-00025018-00025242 space enantiomers are non-superimposable pVU-wmIr0iM-00082-00025243-00025587 mirror images diastereomers are pVU-wmIr0iM-00083-00025588-00026060 stereoisomers that are not enantiomers pVYNUNonxfQ-00000-00000182-00000463 we've come to the end of national safe pVYNUNonxfQ-00001-00000465-00000722 work month and of our 2015 virtual pVYNUNonxfQ-00002-00000723-00001091 seminar series hi I'm Michelle Baxter pVYNUNonxfQ-00003-00001092-00001349 the CEO of safe work australia the pVYNUNonxfQ-00004-00001350-00001525 national policy body whose job is to pVYNUNonxfQ-00005-00001526-00001726 improve work health and safety and pVYNUNonxfQ-00006-00001727-00001997 workers compensation arrangements across pVYNUNonxfQ-00007-00001998-00002213 australia the theme for this year's pVYNUNonxfQ-00008-00002214-00002575 safety month was be safe be healthy pVYNUNonxfQ-00009-00002576-00002945 because I hope you use the month to pVYNUNonxfQ-00010-00002946-00003149 focus on health and safety in your pVYNUNonxfQ-00011-00003150-00003476 workplace and especially to reflect on pVYNUNonxfQ-00012-00003477-00003715 your own reasons for being safe and pVYNUNonxfQ-00013-00003717-00004006 healthy at work a key activity for the pVYNUNonxfQ-00014-00004007-00004235 month was our virtual seminar series pVYNUNonxfQ-00015-00004236-00004511 this year was the second time we have pVYNUNonxfQ-00016-00004512-00004733 used this format to promote workplace pVYNUNonxfQ-00017-00004734-00004970 health and safety last year seminar pVYNUNonxfQ-00018-00004971-00005167 materials were viewed or downloaded pVYNUNonxfQ-00019-00005168-00005581 nearly seventy thousand times and we're pVYNUNonxfQ-00020-00005582-00005806 expecting this year's will be just as pVYNUNonxfQ-00021-00005807-00006050 popular this October we focused on pVYNUNonxfQ-00022-00006051-00006500 safety throughout supply chains and good pVYNUNonxfQ-00023-00006501-00006773 work design and the industry spotlight pVYNUNonxfQ-00024-00006773-00006946 fell on construction and manufacturing pVYNUNonxfQ-00025-00006947-00007244 and sherry the chair of safe work pVYNUNonxfQ-00026-00007245-00007489 australia spoke passionately about the pVYNUNonxfQ-00027-00007490-00007717 value that good work health and safety pVYNUNonxfQ-00028-00007718-00008126 brings to business productivity she pVYNUNonxfQ-00029-00008127-00008402 reminded us that good safe work doesn't pVYNUNonxfQ-00030-00008403-00008648 just help us avoid costs but that pVYNUNonxfQ-00031-00008649-00008816 well-designed work can be more pVYNUNonxfQ-00032-00008817-00009095 productive and innovative and make your pVYNUNonxfQ-00033-00009096-00009346 businesses more viable throughout the pVYNUNonxfQ-00034-00009347-00009527 month a range of work health and safety pVYNUNonxfQ-00035-00009528-00009776 experts share their insights and pVYNUNonxfQ-00036-00009777-00010034 experiences but beyond this year's pVYNUNonxfQ-00037-00010035-00010331 seminars and behind the scenes are safe pVYNUNonxfQ-00038-00010332-00010564 work australia members are also engaged pVYNUNonxfQ-00039-00010565-00010810 in dynamic conversations about pVYNUNonxfQ-00040-00010811-00011048 australia's comparative work health and pVYNUNonxfQ-00041-00011049-00011158 safety performer pVYNUNonxfQ-00042-00011159-00011409 while it depends on how and what is pVYNUNonxfQ-00043-00011410-00011691 countered if we look at workplace pVYNUNonxfQ-00044-00011692-00012030 fatalities Australia is in about sixth pVYNUNonxfQ-00045-00012031-00012238 position compared to other developed pVYNUNonxfQ-00046-00012239-00012495 countries our members have challenged pVYNUNonxfQ-00047-00012496-00012868 all of us to do better to ultimately see pVYNUNonxfQ-00048-00012869-00013102 Australia ranked in the top three in the pVYNUNonxfQ-00049-00013103-00013372 world for work health and safety to pVYNUNonxfQ-00050-00013372-00013578 achieve this we need to meet two very pVYNUNonxfQ-00051-00013579-00013938 significant challenges firstly we need pVYNUNonxfQ-00052-00013940-00014155 to shift negative community perceptions pVYNUNonxfQ-00053-00014156-00014322 and behaviors about work health and pVYNUNonxfQ-00054-00014323-00014613 safety and secondly we need a workforce pVYNUNonxfQ-00055-00014615-00014875 and business leaders who really pVYNUNonxfQ-00056-00014876-00015121 understand work health and safety with pVYNUNonxfQ-00057-00015122-00015340 the knowledge and the skills to pVYNUNonxfQ-00058-00015341-00015603 effectively and efficiently manage risks pVYNUNonxfQ-00059-00015604-00015916 and we need the resources to support pVYNUNonxfQ-00060-00015916-00016225 them the first challenge is the need to pVYNUNonxfQ-00061-00016226-00016450 shift the commonly held belief that pVYNUNonxfQ-00062-00016451-00016738 worker carelessness is the main cause of pVYNUNonxfQ-00063-00016739-00016942 injuries this is really dangerous pVYNUNonxfQ-00064-00016943-00017222 because it focuses on the individual and pVYNUNonxfQ-00065-00017223-00017541 ignores why the worker behaves that way pVYNUNonxfQ-00066-00017542-00017844 perhaps as a result of unrealistic time pVYNUNonxfQ-00067-00017845-00018214 pressures fatigue inadequate training or pVYNUNonxfQ-00068-00018215-00018478 resources how are we shifting this pVYNUNonxfQ-00069-00018479-00018778 attitude what do we know about what pVYNUNonxfQ-00070-00018779-00019003 drives workplace decisions about risk pVYNUNonxfQ-00071-00019004-00019333 and what influences people's behavior pVYNUNonxfQ-00072-00019334-00019572 when they are at work we know that pVYNUNonxfQ-00073-00019573-00019753 people don't always behave rationally pVYNUNonxfQ-00074-00019754-00020055 and carefully our decisions are pVYNUNonxfQ-00075-00020056-00020269 influenced by many factors and biases pVYNUNonxfQ-00076-00020270-00020556 which we may not always recognize we pVYNUNonxfQ-00077-00020557-00020755 know some of our actions are quite pVYNUNonxfQ-00078-00020756-00021000 consciously planned and deliberate while pVYNUNonxfQ-00079-00021001-00021222 others are almost automatic or pVYNUNonxfQ-00080-00021223-00021447 unconscious our deliberate actions pVYNUNonxfQ-00081-00021448-00021702 reflect our values and conscious choices pVYNUNonxfQ-00082-00021703-00021928 traditionally we have tended to assume pVYNUNonxfQ-00083-00021929-00022053 that we need to change people's pVYNUNonxfQ-00084-00022054-00022300 deliberative decision-making by pVYNUNonxfQ-00085-00022301-00022522 providing information and appealing to pVYNUNonxfQ-00086-00022523-00022711 their values while this is certainly pVYNUNonxfQ-00087-00022712-00023047 important recent research is questioning pVYNUNonxfQ-00088-00023048-00023205 whether we are under estimating the pVYNUNonxfQ-00089-00023206-00023512 contribution of the automatic or non pVYNUNonxfQ-00090-00023513-00023784 deliberative processes behind our pVYNUNonxfQ-00091-00023785-00024027 chance so a challenge for those of us pVYNUNonxfQ-00092-00024028-00024246 who care about workers health and safety pVYNUNonxfQ-00093-00024247-00024513 is how we influence both people's pVYNUNonxfQ-00094-00024514-00024840 conscious and unconscious decisions and pVYNUNonxfQ-00095-00024841-00025095 behaviors behavioral economists have pVYNUNonxfQ-00096-00025096-00025293 been extremely successful in pVYNUNonxfQ-00097-00025294-00025509 highlighting to policymakers the pVYNUNonxfQ-00098-00025510-00025788 potential to change behavior by going pVYNUNonxfQ-00099-00025789-00026093 beyond mere information based campaigns pVYNUNonxfQ-00100-00026094-00026397 instead we need to design the work pVYNUNonxfQ-00101-00026398-00026639 environment and the communication tools pVYNUNonxfQ-00102-00026641-00026994 we use to favor the behaviors we want pVYNUNonxfQ-00103-00026995-00027360 and discourage those we don't want the pVYNUNonxfQ-00104-00027361-00027591 former Chief of Army leftenant General pVYNUNonxfQ-00105-00027592-00027873 David Morrison warned the standard you pVYNUNonxfQ-00106-00027874-00028166 walk past is the standard you accept and pVYNUNonxfQ-00107-00028167-00028431 this applies just as much to work health pVYNUNonxfQ-00108-00028432-00028814 and safety as to any other area leaders pVYNUNonxfQ-00109-00028816-00029031 attitudes to how their businesses run pVYNUNonxfQ-00110-00029032-00029327 and the behaviors they ignore will pVYNUNonxfQ-00111-00029329-00029544 directly affect workplace health and pVYNUNonxfQ-00112-00029545-00029862 safety people will learn from what you pVYNUNonxfQ-00113-00029863-00030141 say but they will learn a lot more if pVYNUNonxfQ-00114-00030142-00030348 your actions are consistent with your pVYNUNonxfQ-00115-00030349-00030681 words so a better holistic and more pVYNUNonxfQ-00116-00030682-00030897 effective approach is to address the pVYNUNonxfQ-00117-00030898-00031077 leadership and culture of the workplace pVYNUNonxfQ-00118-00031077-00031452 and how rests are managed leaders need pVYNUNonxfQ-00119-00031452-00031664 to ensure work processes and systems pVYNUNonxfQ-00120-00031666-00031920 support safety before trying to pVYNUNonxfQ-00121-00031920-00032152 influence people's behavior at work pVYNUNonxfQ-00122-00032154-00032451 unacceptable workplace risks have their pVYNUNonxfQ-00123-00032452-00032738 roots in poor corporate decision making pVYNUNonxfQ-00124-00032739-00032951 when business leaders and managers pVYNUNonxfQ-00125-00032952-00033180 understand how comprehensive risk pVYNUNonxfQ-00126-00033181-00033402 management can actually support their pVYNUNonxfQ-00127-00033403-00033672 strategic directions both the businesses pVYNUNonxfQ-00128-00033673-00033984 productivity and workers health and pVYNUNonxfQ-00129-00033985-00034314 safety will improve it's important to pVYNUNonxfQ-00130-00034315-00034515 recognize that it's not always possible pVYNUNonxfQ-00131-00034516-00034896 to totally eliminate all risk the law pVYNUNonxfQ-00132-00034897-00035217 demands that we manage risk so far as is pVYNUNonxfQ-00133-00035218-00035466 reasonably practicable to completely pVYNUNonxfQ-00134-00035467-00035751 eliminate all risk would stifle pVYNUNonxfQ-00135-00035752-00036015 innovation and paralyze business pVYNUNonxfQ-00136-00036016-00036311 activity growth and creativity pVYNUNonxfQ-00137-00036312-00036680 in fact the enemy of good practical work pVYNUNonxfQ-00138-00036681-00037029 health and safety is not risk itself but pVYNUNonxfQ-00139-00037030-00037346 complacency we need to constantly pVYNUNonxfQ-00140-00037347-00037718 question what are we missing this is pVYNUNonxfQ-00141-00037719-00037904 what some leaders have called being in a pVYNUNonxfQ-00142-00037905-00038195 state of chronic unease if business pVYNUNonxfQ-00143-00038196-00038417 leaders are to move their organizations pVYNUNonxfQ-00144-00038418-00038714 beyond mere compliance and a box-ticking pVYNUNonxfQ-00145-00038715-00039035 approach to work health and safety they pVYNUNonxfQ-00146-00039036-00039314 need to fully understand the complexity pVYNUNonxfQ-00147-00039315-00039638 of their operations including their key pVYNUNonxfQ-00148-00039639-00039948 health and safety risks business leaders pVYNUNonxfQ-00149-00039949-00040160 must welcome hearing the bad news as pVYNUNonxfQ-00150-00040161-00040448 well as the good and they must use this pVYNUNonxfQ-00151-00040449-00040802 knowledge to actively engage with and pVYNUNonxfQ-00152-00040803-00041192 manage risk if they do this well their pVYNUNonxfQ-00153-00041193-00041411 organizations will be more flexible and pVYNUNonxfQ-00154-00041412-00041789 more agile able to then respond to pVYNUNonxfQ-00155-00041790-00041993 shifting demands and seize the pVYNUNonxfQ-00156-00041994-00042215 opportunities which will help make them pVYNUNonxfQ-00157-00042216-00042458 profitable to meet that second challenge pVYNUNonxfQ-00158-00042459-00042716 that I mentioned earlier we need to pVYNUNonxfQ-00159-00042717-00043037 improve all Australians work health and pVYNUNonxfQ-00160-00043038-00043364 safety knowledge and skills and give pVYNUNonxfQ-00161-00043365-00043535 them the resources they need to pVYNUNonxfQ-00162-00043536-00043913 implement good practice this is one of pVYNUNonxfQ-00163-00043914-00044105 the key outcomes of the Australian work pVYNUNonxfQ-00164-00044106-00044342 health and safety strategy but there are pVYNUNonxfQ-00165-00044343-00044720 some important questions to ponder how pVYNUNonxfQ-00166-00044721-00044954 do we get people's attention in a world pVYNUNonxfQ-00167-00044955-00045182 where we are often overwhelmed with pVYNUNonxfQ-00168-00045183-00045560 contradictory information how do people pVYNUNonxfQ-00169-00045561-00045983 best learn can our current education and pVYNUNonxfQ-00170-00045984-00046148 training system deliver the skills pVYNUNonxfQ-00171-00046149-00046471 needed in an already overcrowded pVYNUNonxfQ-00172-00046472-00046742 curriculum how do we make sure that pVYNUNonxfQ-00173-00046743-00047012 health and safety isn't just an pVYNUNonxfQ-00174-00047013-00047231 inconvenient add-on that receives only pVYNUNonxfQ-00175-00047232-00047726 cursory attention if that how do we cut pVYNUNonxfQ-00176-00047727-00047904 through the myriad issues that plague pVYNUNonxfQ-00177-00047905-00048170 day-to-day business activity to help pVYNUNonxfQ-00178-00048171-00048407 business leaders give strategic risk pVYNUNonxfQ-00179-00048408-00048670 management the attention that it needs pVYNUNonxfQ-00180-00048671-00048905 safe work australia is currently pVYNUNonxfQ-00181-00048906-00049073 considering these important questions pVYNUNonxfQ-00182-00049074-00049325 our members have tasked us with pVYNUNonxfQ-00183-00049326-00049499 improving the way work health and safety pVYNUNonxfQ-00184-00049500-00049639 is covered across pVYNUNonxfQ-00185-00049640-00049891 all education sectors and helping pVYNUNonxfQ-00186-00049892-00050098 develop resources for better integrating pVYNUNonxfQ-00187-00050099-00050485 it into the curriculum we want to see pVYNUNonxfQ-00188-00050486-00050671 risk management covered as an integral pVYNUNonxfQ-00189-00050672-00050962 part of management training as professor pVYNUNonxfQ-00190-00050963-00051145 Patrick Hudson noted in last year's pVYNUNonxfQ-00191-00051146-00051379 virtual seminar series many pVYNUNonxfQ-00192-00051380-00051574 organizations already have good pVYNUNonxfQ-00193-00051575-00051877 attitudes their problem is a shortage of pVYNUNonxfQ-00194-00051878-00052156 managerial skills to improve their pVYNUNonxfQ-00195-00052157-00052456 actual performance major reforms are pVYNUNonxfQ-00196-00052457-00052679 driving changes to both the vocational pVYNUNonxfQ-00197-00052679-00052932 education and university sectors pVYNUNonxfQ-00198-00052933-00053254 increasingly market driven commercial pVYNUNonxfQ-00199-00053255-00053530 approaches in education mean that to pVYNUNonxfQ-00200-00053531-00053725 gain traction for work health and safety pVYNUNonxfQ-00201-00053726-00054031 subjects we need to make a persuasive pVYNUNonxfQ-00202-00054032-00054379 business case fortunately there is pVYNUNonxfQ-00203-00054380-00054724 growing support for this because as we pVYNUNonxfQ-00204-00054725-00054929 demonstrated in this year's seminars pVYNUNonxfQ-00205-00054929-00055375 there is a direct link between good safe pVYNUNonxfQ-00206-00055376-00055741 and healthy work and business success pVYNUNonxfQ-00207-00055741-00055987 safe work australia is using this pVYNUNonxfQ-00208-00055988-00056191 evidence to engage with the education pVYNUNonxfQ-00209-00056192-00056390 sector to support improved learning pVYNUNonxfQ-00210-00056391-00056632 outcomes and supporting the development pVYNUNonxfQ-00211-00056633-00056944 of some key curriculum material in areas pVYNUNonxfQ-00212-00056945-00057215 like engineering ergonomics business pVYNUNonxfQ-00213-00057216-00057524 management and agriculture to support pVYNUNonxfQ-00214-00057525-00057718 business leaders we have developed free pVYNUNonxfQ-00215-00057719-00057953 online resources on leadership we pVYNUNonxfQ-00216-00057954-00058160 recently published the principles for pVYNUNonxfQ-00217-00058161-00058412 designing good work these have been a pVYNUNonxfQ-00218-00058413-00058654 key focus during this year's seminars pVYNUNonxfQ-00219-00058655-00058928 and will form an enduring resource for pVYNUNonxfQ-00220-00058929-00059159 everyone who has a role in designing or pVYNUNonxfQ-00221-00059160-00059510 manager work between now and 2019 and pVYNUNonxfQ-00222-00059511-00059840 Beyond safe work australia will continue pVYNUNonxfQ-00223-00059841-00060062 to strive to make our country a world pVYNUNonxfQ-00224-00060063-00060337 leader in health and safety we will pVYNUNonxfQ-00225-00060338-00060532 promote the value of health and safety pVYNUNonxfQ-00226-00060533-00060700 to the community and it's links with pVYNUNonxfQ-00227-00060701-00060998 Australia's future prosperity we will pVYNUNonxfQ-00228-00060999-00061225 continue to be a key source of national pVYNUNonxfQ-00229-00061226-00061474 research and data building on the latest pVYNUNonxfQ-00230-00061475-00061640 thinking on how to influence pVYNUNonxfQ-00231-00061641-00061882 organisations and workers behavior and pVYNUNonxfQ-00232-00061883-00062148 provide Australians with the tools to be pVYNUNonxfQ-00233-00062149-00062426 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pgTraahqc1g-00133-00081444-00081719 I told you never to come back here pgTraahqc1g-00134-00081720-00082073 that's right look at me pgTraahqc1g-00135-00082074-00082361 I cannot use to be one of them it pgTraahqc1g-00136-00082362-00082631 doesn't have to be way if Ragnarok is pgTraahqc1g-00137-00082632-00082715 coming what did you pgTraahqc1g-00138-00082716-00082979 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00139-00082980-00083330 ever do for anybody pgTraahqc1g-00140-00083331-00083987 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00141-00083988-00084773 I won't give up on you oh pgTraahqc1g-00142-00084774-00086429 no key pgTraahqc1g-00143-00086430-00086806 s pgTraahqc1g-00144-00086807-00087426 follow me that's right pgTraahqc1g-00145-00087427-00087700 where are you you sure you want to go pgTraahqc1g-00146-00087701-00087893 back there I told you they couldn't pgTraahqc1g-00147-00087894-00088837 reply but uh legit pgTraahqc1g-00148-00088838-00089123 over there gotta destroy that cauldron pgTraahqc1g-00149-00089124-00089411 okay pgTraahqc1g-00150-00089412-00089615 hiding pgTraahqc1g-00151-00089616-00091105 state pgTraahqc1g-00152-00091106-00092976 here in my humble home pgTraahqc1g-00153-00092977-00093211 less pgTraahqc1g-00154-00093212-00093412 shut up pgTraahqc1g-00155-00093413-00094156 I'm sure he'll make such a fine cup pgTraahqc1g-00156-00094157-00094343 in you pgTraahqc1g-00157-00094344-00095094 why are you even here pgTraahqc1g-00158-00095095-00095362 gotta get off the floor pgTraahqc1g-00159-00095363-00095850 okay pgTraahqc1g-00160-00095851-00096112 there's a candle over there maybe she'll pgTraahqc1g-00161-00096113-00096899 get stunned if I hit it pgTraahqc1g-00162-00096900-00097205 I'm ashamed we're even related girl you pgTraahqc1g-00163-00097206-00097271 don't mean that pgTraahqc1g-00164-00097272-00097849 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00165-00097850-00099313 was a team foreign pgTraahqc1g-00166-00099314-00100351 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00167-00100352-00102276 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00168-00102277-00102497 what's up pgTraahqc1g-00169-00102498-00103099 get closer to a candle pgTraahqc1g-00170-00103100-00104656 okay hey pgTraahqc1g-00171-00104657-00104854 oh pgTraahqc1g-00172-00104855-00105065 you suspense on hurting me like this pgTraahqc1g-00173-00105066-00105143 girl pgTraahqc1g-00174-00105144-00105443 I've done nothing to you you can't keep pgTraahqc1g-00175-00105444-00107328 feeling so they're just okay pgTraahqc1g-00176-00107329-00107723 watch out get off the counter follow pgTraahqc1g-00177-00107724-00107939 your boy pgTraahqc1g-00178-00107940-00108601 leave me alone pgTraahqc1g-00179-00108602-00109051 I'm sorry pgTraahqc1g-00180-00109052-00111454 what did I ever do to you pgTraahqc1g-00182-00114698-00115115 shut up pgTraahqc1g-00183-00115116-00117634 come on pgTraahqc1g-00185-00120666-00120958 we just got out pgTraahqc1g-00186-00120959-00121297 no pgTraahqc1g-00187-00121298-00122190 let's go pgTraahqc1g-00188-00122191-00122452 you think you're doing something here pgTraahqc1g-00189-00122453-00122784 granddaughter pgTraahqc1g-00190-00122785-00123221 you are nothing and no one will ever pgTraahqc1g-00191-00123222-00123436 remember you pgTraahqc1g-00192-00123438-00123707 not even Loki pgTraahqc1g-00193-00123708-00124036 you'll just be a forgotten chapter in pgTraahqc1g-00194-00124038-00125165 here pgTraahqc1g-00195-00125166-00125521 I see you again pgTraahqc1g-00196-00125522-00125819 your parents pgTraahqc1g-00197-00125820-00125957 it's Keena pgTraahqc1g-00198-00125958-00126769 Mar on the skin pgTraahqc1g-00199-00126770-00127102 you sure pgTraahqc1g-00200-00127103-00128242 foreign pgTraahqc1g-00201-00128243-00129424 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00202-00129425-00129871 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00203-00129872-00130414 she's not a monster you know pgTraahqc1g-00204-00130415-00130702 she's lost pgTraahqc1g-00205-00130703-00131393 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00206-00131394-00132889 you want to walk pgTraahqc1g-00207-00132890-00133187 this way pgTraahqc1g-00208-00133188-00133451 you get back pgTraahqc1g-00209-00133452-00133877 nice pgTraahqc1g-00210-00133878-00134266 okay pgTraahqc1g-00211-00134267-00136609 uh pgTraahqc1g-00212-00136610-00136816 come on pgTraahqc1g-00213-00136817-00137051 you know you want a rematch after last I pgTraahqc1g-00214-00137052-00137273 appreciate um pgTraahqc1g-00215-00137274-00137639 last time I beat you I'm pretty sure it pgTraahqc1g-00216-00137640-00137968 was a tie pretty sure it wasn't pgTraahqc1g-00217-00137969-00138377 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00218-00138378-00138766 so prove me wrong one two three go five pgTraahqc1g-00219-00138767-00138983 sheesh pgTraahqc1g-00220-00138984-00139507 when Patricia coming or what pgTraahqc1g-00221-00139508-00140923 the [__] oh no you don't oh pgTraahqc1g-00222-00140924-00141697 it has pgTraahqc1g-00223-00141698-00142590 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00224-00142591-00142752 so far pgTraahqc1g-00225-00142753-00143104 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00226-00143105-00143290 nice pgTraahqc1g-00227-00143291-00143981 again pgTraahqc1g-00228-00143982-00144693 cheese pgTraahqc1g-00229-00144694-00145240 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00230-00145241-00145507 he wrote a magic Fox the whole way pgTraahqc1g-00231-00145508-00145804 Loki atreyas pgTraahqc1g-00232-00145805-00146087 thank you I'm sorry she was so hard on pgTraahqc1g-00233-00146088-00146152 you pgTraahqc1g-00234-00146153-00146309 me too pgTraahqc1g-00235-00146310-00146501 later pgTraahqc1g-00236-00146502-00147154 foreign pgTraahqc1g-00238-00150636-00150947 sheesh pgTraahqc1g-00239-00150948-00151145 come here pgTraahqc1g-00240-00151146-00152513 I need to show you something pgTraahqc1g-00241-00152514-00153490 oh pgTraahqc1g-00243-00157212-00158933 foreign pgTraahqc1g-00244-00158934-00159083 we've got to be more than a bunch of pgTraahqc1g-00245-00159084-00159947 stories with our endings already written pgTraahqc1g-00246-00159948-00160242 what happens to you now pgTraahqc1g-00247-00160243-00160804 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00248-00160805-00161161 I don't know pgTraahqc1g-00249-00161162-00161399 like I said pgTraahqc1g-00250-00161400-00162214 once you're gone my part in this is over pgTraahqc1g-00251-00162215-00162371 so you know pgTraahqc1g-00252-00162372-00162714 feel free to stay pgTraahqc1g-00253-00162715-00163033 now pgTraahqc1g-00254-00163034-00163259 I think your part is as big as you want pgTraahqc1g-00255-00163260-00163457 it to be pgTraahqc1g-00256-00163458-00163823 okay pgTraahqc1g-00257-00163824-00164147 boy pgTraahqc1g-00258-00164148-00165154 foreign pgTraahqc1g-00259-00165155-00165419 I can't just sit back and let my dad die pgTraahqc1g-00260-00165420-00166175 yes pgTraahqc1g-00261-00166176-00166439 I gotta get back pgTraahqc1g-00262-00166440-00167171 is pgTraahqc1g-00263-00167172-00167369 huh pgTraahqc1g-00264-00167370-00168071 Stars here are different pgTraahqc1g-00265-00168072-00168340 okay pgTraahqc1g-00266-00168341-00169019 yeah pgTraahqc1g-00267-00169020-00169571 Fearless pgTraahqc1g-00268-00169572-00169733 my Kenny pgTraahqc1g-00269-00169734-00169889 okay now pgTraahqc1g-00270-00169890-00170513 open uh pgTraahqc1g-00271-00170514-00171635 oh come on okay pgTraahqc1g-00272-00171636-00171971 Nam pgTraahqc1g-00273-00171972-00172178 Ed pgTraahqc1g-00274-00172179-00172961 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00275-00172962-00173833 like that pgTraahqc1g-00276-00173834-00174035 come on pgTraahqc1g-00277-00174036-00174819 Towers pgTraahqc1g-00278-00174820-00176488 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00279-00176489-00177252 foreign pgTraahqc1g-00280-00177253-00179188 other home pgTraahqc1g-00281-00179189-00179958 less pgTraahqc1g-00282-00179959-00180276 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00283-00180277-00180743 okay okay okay pgTraahqc1g-00284-00180744-00181997 oh pgTraahqc1g-00285-00181998-00184054 okay pgTraahqc1g-00286-00184055-00185440 [Applause] pgTraahqc1g-00287-00185441-00188381 foreign pgTraahqc1g-00288-00188382-00188909 do you seek death no more than you pgTraahqc1g-00289-00188910-00189119 why pgTraahqc1g-00290-00189120-00189557 what is it tell me pgTraahqc1g-00291-00189558-00189809 tried to walk this path with you pgTraahqc1g-00292-00189810-00190002 we follow your energy pgTraahqc1g-00293-00190003-00190276 and still I follow pgTraahqc1g-00294-00190277-00190481 because all that matters is that you are pgTraahqc1g-00295-00190482-00190709 safe but that's not all that matters pgTraahqc1g-00296-00190710-00191059 who's keeping you safe pgTraahqc1g-00297-00191060-00191338 to hurt me pgTraahqc1g-00298-00191339-00191731 sure about that pgTraahqc1g-00299-00191732-00192052 what do you know I can't talk about it pgTraahqc1g-00300-00192053-00192299 but I just need you to trust me pgTraahqc1g-00301-00192300-00192509 you kept secrets but I trust you it's pgTraahqc1g-00302-00192510-00192647 not the same pgTraahqc1g-00303-00192648-00192947 why not you hate things motherhood pgTraahqc1g-00304-00192948-00193133 things you had good reasons and so do I pgTraahqc1g-00305-00193134-00193354 why can't you just pgTraahqc1g-00306-00193355-00193613 oh pgTraahqc1g-00307-00193614-00194304 okay pgTraahqc1g-00308-00194305-00194926 this is pgTraahqc1g-00309-00194927-00196019 oh my God pgTraahqc1g-00310-00196020-00197254 is pgTraahqc1g-00311-00197255-00197885 governor pgTraahqc1g-00312-00197886-00199266 Sparta pgTraahqc1g-00313-00199267-00199997 Valley Kitty pgTraahqc1g-00314-00199998-00200443 vanadis pgTraahqc1g-00315-00200444-00201607 finally done it pgTraahqc1g-00316-00201608-00201952 we're going pgTraahqc1g-00317-00201953-00202276 down pgTraahqc1g-00318-00202277-00204575 yes pgTraahqc1g-00319-00204576-00205210 come on sheesh pgTraahqc1g-00320-00205211-00205469 no pgTraahqc1g-00321-00205471-00205594 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00322-00205596-00207073 are you okay pgTraahqc1g-00323-00207073-00207708 don't touch it pgTraahqc1g-00324-00207709-00208157 come on pgTraahqc1g-00325-00208158-00209700 hello pgTraahqc1g-00326-00209701-00209857 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00327-00209858-00210539 okay I'm gonna die pgTraahqc1g-00328-00210540-00211337 I think she's being offline pgTraahqc1g-00329-00211338-00211481 yeah pgTraahqc1g-00330-00211482-00212484 okay pgTraahqc1g-00331-00212485-00213641 you boy pgTraahqc1g-00332-00213642-00214042 money Daddy pgTraahqc1g-00333-00214044-00214405 no violation imagine pgTraahqc1g-00334-00214406-00214601 no pgTraahqc1g-00335-00214602-00215263 power pgTraahqc1g-00336-00215264-00217606 you do not want this pgTraahqc1g-00337-00217607-00218101 uh pgTraahqc1g-00338-00218102-00218777 luxurious sheesh pgTraahqc1g-00339-00218778-00218887 the skin pgTraahqc1g-00340-00218888-00219305 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00341-00219306-00219827 is pgTraahqc1g-00342-00219828-00220096 a kid pgTraahqc1g-00343-00220098-00220258 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00344-00220259-00220706 um pgTraahqc1g-00345-00220707-00221015 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00346-00221016-00221634 oh pgTraahqc1g-00347-00221635-00222077 the honey pgTraahqc1g-00348-00222078-00222442 no pgTraahqc1g-00349-00222444-00222653 Maybe pgTraahqc1g-00350-00222654-00223146 a little bummer for the moment pgTraahqc1g-00351-00223148-00223637 you have more use to me pgTraahqc1g-00352-00223638-00223834 alive pgTraahqc1g-00353-00223835-00224063 dead pgTraahqc1g-00354-00224064-00224542 yes pgTraahqc1g-00355-00224544-00224734 home pgTraahqc1g-00356-00224735-00225017 home really pgTraahqc1g-00357-00225017-00225232 they'll tell the truth when I return now pgTraahqc1g-00358-00225233-00225505 I must set things right pgTraahqc1g-00359-00225506-00225706 we'll take him pgTraahqc1g-00360-00225707-00225856 oh pgTraahqc1g-00361-00225857-00226055 your majesty pgTraahqc1g-00362-00226056-00226913 a pleasure pgTraahqc1g-00363-00226914-00227179 do not let him out of your sight pgTraahqc1g-00364-00227180-00227615 dirty Sunshine come on get a move on pgTraahqc1g-00365-00227616-00228058 no sunshine or cheese gold pgTraahqc1g-00366-00228059-00228389 wow pgTraahqc1g-00367-00228390-00228784 what is it do you want pgTraahqc1g-00368-00228785-00229127 I refuse to remain bound to this realm pgTraahqc1g-00369-00229128-00229984 s pgTraahqc1g-00370-00229985-00230201 seed pgTraahqc1g-00371-00230202-00230742 tear pgTraahqc1g-00372-00230744-00231432 on Gateway to Anaheim everyone dried up pgTraahqc1g-00373-00231433-00231653 the man pgTraahqc1g-00374-00231654-00231784 you are still bound pgTraahqc1g-00375-00231785-00232013 how trouble yeah I crafted a protection pgTraahqc1g-00376-00232014-00232151 Ward that'll keep me from being pulled pgTraahqc1g-00377-00232152-00232523 out pgTraahqc1g-00378-00232523-00232798 and what is that the source of the magic pgTraahqc1g-00379-00232800-00233087 that binds me to midgard we're going to pgTraahqc1g-00380-00233088-00233477 find it and destroy it I will help you pgTraahqc1g-00381-00233478-00233782 but it will not suppose I have done it I pgTraahqc1g-00382-00233783-00234305 know pgTraahqc1g-00383-00234306-00235715 shut up pgTraahqc1g-00384-00235716-00237389 without me pgTraahqc1g-00385-00237390-00237587 and what is it you expect to meet Kratos pgTraahqc1g-00386-00237588-00237737 for highness pgTraahqc1g-00387-00237738-00237917 clearly you've been quite capable of pgTraahqc1g-00388-00237917-00238163 breaking Odin's curses on your own the pgTraahqc1g-00389-00238164-00238337 other curses grew weak from thimble pgTraahqc1g-00390-00238338-00238529 winter but I still needed help to break pgTraahqc1g-00391-00238530-00238865 them this one is held strong so all pgTraahqc1g-00392-00238866-00239087 they're trying to kill him that's just pgTraahqc1g-00393-00239088-00239573 your goddessy way of asking you pgTraahqc1g-00394-00239573-00239801 come along cause you did pgTraahqc1g-00395-00239802-00240058 you did I got an old pgTraahqc1g-00396-00240059-00240232 an older cup once this joint we're back pgTraahqc1g-00397-00240233-00240346 on the map pgTraahqc1g-00398-00240348-00240592 got a hunch lending you mokes of hands pgTraahqc1g-00399-00240594-00241103 gonna hit me up where I'm going pgTraahqc1g-00400-00241104-00241294 what and what makes you think that pgTraahqc1g-00401-00241296-00241546 because last I heard Terrell she was pgTraahqc1g-00402-00241548-00241908 running with that beef with Brothers pgTraahqc1g-00403-00241909-00243232 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00404-00243233-00243784 nice pgTraahqc1g-00405-00243785-00244139 source is further in follow me pgTraahqc1g-00406-00244140-00244523 follow me pgTraahqc1g-00407-00244523-00244805 and nearly as fragrant suppose fumble pgTraahqc1g-00408-00244806-00245039 Winters to blame but if it helps these pgTraahqc1g-00409-00245040-00245231 two find peace this is a temporary pgTraahqc1g-00410-00245232-00245482 Alliance mamir anything beyond that pgTraahqc1g-00411-00245483-00245689 would require trust pgTraahqc1g-00412-00245690-00245944 you know damn well Kratos isn't the true pgTraahqc1g-00413-00245946-00246131 cause of your suffering you're both as pgTraahqc1g-00414-00246132-00246455 much a part of my suffering as anyone pgTraahqc1g-00415-00246456-00247039 come on boy pgTraahqc1g-00416-00247040-00247429 my spell I can feel it slipping pgTraahqc1g-00417-00247430-00247842 foreign pgTraahqc1g-00418-00247844-00248219 something I was hoping to avoid pgTraahqc1g-00419-00248219-00248339 see pgTraahqc1g-00420-00248340-00248873 it seems I don't have much choice pgTraahqc1g-00421-00248873-00249065 huh pgTraahqc1g-00422-00249066-00249439 come on then you had a wheel away pgTraahqc1g-00423-00249440-00249779 no I discovered it once you unlocked pgTraahqc1g-00424-00249780-00250025 realm travel and it solves very little pgTraahqc1g-00425-00250026-00251165 this form is extremely limiting pgTraahqc1g-00426-00251166-00251455 foreign pgTraahqc1g-00427-00251456-00251723 the plants are extra aggressive in this pgTraahqc1g-00428-00251723-00252389 humidity pgTraahqc1g-00429-00252390-00253482 now what we got here pgTraahqc1g-00430-00253483-00253810 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00431-00253811-00254448 audio pgTraahqc1g-00432-00254450-00254813 where has everyone gone I wonder they pgTraahqc1g-00433-00254814-00255289 must have withdrawn Butler pgTraahqc1g-00434-00255290-00255587 no way of knowing how many are left or pgTraahqc1g-00435-00255588-00256048 how to reach them pgTraahqc1g-00436-00256050-00256339 hey pgTraahqc1g-00437-00256340-00256756 was never my idea my idea was brokering pgTraahqc1g-00438-00256757-00256984 the marriage to end it a great success pgTraahqc1g-00439-00256985-00257303 that was obviously the piece was no less pgTraahqc1g-00440-00257304-00257506 a disaster than the marriage pgTraahqc1g-00441-00257507-00257813 did he invade again as soon as I was pgTraahqc1g-00442-00257814-00258010 exiled pgTraahqc1g-00443-00258011-00258677 who pgTraahqc1g-00444-00258678-00258929 understand these poems best always pgTraahqc1g-00445-00258930-00259084 meaning if you look hard enough what pgTraahqc1g-00446-00259085-00259582 it's all in what you bring to it pgTraahqc1g-00447-00259583-00261234 nice pgTraahqc1g-00448-00261235-00261510 pretty sure there's loot you're missing pgTraahqc1g-00449-00261511-00261892 skipping you want to hunt around pgTraahqc1g-00450-00261894-00262055 hey pgTraahqc1g-00451-00262056-00262297 [__] up name Danny pgTraahqc1g-00452-00262298-00263361 oh Roberto pgTraahqc1g-00453-00263362-00263530 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00454-00263531-00264796 turn pgTraahqc1g-00455-00264797-00264973 [Music] pgTraahqc1g-00456-00264974-00266058 on the left pgTraahqc1g-00457-00266059-00266345 he in here against bringing back the pgTraahqc1g-00458-00266346-00266563 memories pgTraahqc1g-00459-00266564-00267197 fancy folks and quality means pgTraahqc1g-00460-00267198-00267403 enough and awful pgTraahqc1g-00461-00267404-00267755 why do you keep bringing him up my pgTraahqc1g-00462-00267756-00268229 brother pgTraahqc1g-00463-00268230-00268487 's more dangerous the further we go hope pgTraahqc1g-00464-00268488-00269813 you're up for it pgTraahqc1g-00465-00269814-00270610 okay pgTraahqc1g-00466-00270611-00270923 any of this sounds familiar so far and pgTraahqc1g-00467-00270924-00271234 what is your point my point is that pgTraahqc1g-00468-00271235-00271523 weren't the end all of things after all pgTraahqc1g-00469-00271524-00272027 once we got our heads right pgTraahqc1g-00470-00272028-00272206 nope he went straight back to being as pgTraahqc1g-00471-00272207-00273034 big a pain in my house again pgTraahqc1g-00472-00273035-00273280 why do you think I need to hear any of pgTraahqc1g-00473-00273281-00273587 this right now my focus is on regaining pgTraahqc1g-00474-00273588-00273910 myself and I have no intention of being pgTraahqc1g-00475-00273911-00274037 distracted pgTraahqc1g-00476-00274038-00274439 look alls I'm saying is if you happen to pgTraahqc1g-00477-00274440-00274643 find yourself talking to your brother pgTraahqc1g-00478-00274644-00274925 maybe the worst word said between you pgTraahqc1g-00479-00274926-00275189 don't have to be pgTraahqc1g-00480-00275190-00275465 okay wait a minute when the day comes to pgTraahqc1g-00481-00275466-00275680 face prayer again it will be when I am pgTraahqc1g-00482-00275681-00276505 standing on my face pgTraahqc1g-00483-00276506-00276899 and pride thank you hope yours clears up pgTraahqc1g-00484-00276900-00277513 quicker than mine pgTraahqc1g-00485-00277514-00279010 you wish pgTraahqc1g-00486-00279011-00279275 subscribe like favorite chat pgTraahqc1g-00487-00279276-00279548 aware pgZpW6Ul9XA-00000-00043535-00043741 you phHcLMFEWzQ-00000-00001154-00002555 my loving Grand founding father phHcLMFEWzQ-00001-00002556-00003084 s phHcLMFEWzQ-00002-00003085-00003827 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00003-00003828-00004019 Hollywood phHcLMFEWzQ-00005-00007061-00007955 foreign phHcLMFEWzQ-00006-00007956-00009397 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00007-00009398-00010891 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00008-00010892-00012364 thank you phHcLMFEWzQ-00009-00012365-00012520 it was about a year and a half ago my phHcLMFEWzQ-00010-00012521-00012767 parents passed away and my wife passed phHcLMFEWzQ-00011-00012768-00012893 away now we just decided to bring my phHcLMFEWzQ-00012-00012894-00013072 brother and my brother passed away there phHcLMFEWzQ-00013-00013073-00013216 are 10 of us in the house right now it's phHcLMFEWzQ-00014-00013218-00013366 a fun place especially around Christmas phHcLMFEWzQ-00015-00013368-00013685 time lights wrapping paper lights all phHcLMFEWzQ-00016-00013686-00013894 the lights oh my absolutely having the phHcLMFEWzQ-00017-00013895-00014086 best prices for us and my brother just phHcLMFEWzQ-00018-00014087-00014230 passed away we have to be very budget phHcLMFEWzQ-00019-00014231-00014386 conscious because my parents passed phHcLMFEWzQ-00020-00014387-00014621 towards each person draws a name you try phHcLMFEWzQ-00021-00014622-00014807 to keep it really quiet I keep a secret phHcLMFEWzQ-00022-00014808-00015011 I cannot keep a secret the 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fire man phHcLMFEWzQ-00041-00027068-00027329 is always tender and juicy and their phHcLMFEWzQ-00042-00027330-00027455 fruits and vegetables the fruits and phHcLMFEWzQ-00043-00027456-00027577 vegetables phHcLMFEWzQ-00044-00027577-00027877 my mom's been a financial phHcLMFEWzQ-00045-00027877-00028157 as long as I can remember and she knows phHcLMFEWzQ-00046-00028158-00028393 the pros phHcLMFEWzQ-00047-00028394-00029045 finest and score with the pros phHcLMFEWzQ-00048-00029047-00029930 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00049-00029931-00031961 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00050-00031962-00032423 Lee sprouts phHcLMFEWzQ-00051-00032424-00034740 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00052-00034741-00035317 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00053-00035318-00035517 you know what's insane phHcLMFEWzQ-00054-00035518-00035795 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00055-00035796-00035999 you can control the piece with the push phHcLMFEWzQ-00056-00036000-00036201 of a button phHcLMFEWzQ-00057-00036202-00037205 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00058-00037206-00037668 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00059-00037669-00038180 Best Buy thousands of thousands phHcLMFEWzQ-00060-00038181-00039802 [Music] phHcLMFEWzQ-00061-00039803-00040079 you have a heightened awareness owned phHcLMFEWzQ-00062-00040080-00040433 awareness phHcLMFEWzQ-00063-00040434-00040709 the journey to find fresh lower prices phHcLMFEWzQ-00064-00040710-00042829 come from phHcLMFEWzQ-00065-00042830-00043147 Las Vegas phMXrZ-qXLy-00000-00000082-00001423 [Music] phMXrZ-qXLy-00001-00001424-00001558 we phMXrZ-qXLy-00002-00001559-00001791 did not know when we first watched this phMXrZ-qXLy-00003-00001792-00001910 okay is it normal phMXrZ-qXLy-00004-00001911-00002142 to store suitcases of ballots under a phMXrZ-qXLy-00005-00002143-00002302 table under a tablecloth phMXrZ-qXLy-00006-00002303-00002487 is that how they run the place maybe phMXrZ-qXLy-00007-00002488-00002647 this is what they've been doing all day phMXrZ-qXLy-00008-00002648-00002767 maybe this is what they're doing under phMXrZ-qXLy-00009-00002768-00002902 all the tables so we went back and phMXrZ-qXLy-00010-00002903-00003191 watched the video as a team of us phMXrZ-qXLy-00011-00003192-00003406 we don't see that what we see is phMXrZ-qXLy-00012-00003407-00003711 typically you're going to find ballots phMXrZ-qXLy-00013-00003711-00004335 you know back in this corner phMXrZ-qXLy-00014-00004336-00004502 or coming in through a door and then phMXrZ-qXLy-00015-00004503-00004647 they get moved and circulated throughout phMXrZ-qXLy-00016-00004648-00004767 the room phMXrZ-qXLy-00017-00004768-00004911 and it can get a little confusing phMXrZ-qXLy-00018-00004912-00005102 because they have these black containers phMXrZ-qXLy-00019-00005103-00005231 of ballots they have the us postal phMXrZ-qXLy-00020-00005232-00005359 service containers phMXrZ-qXLy-00021-00005360-00005535 but what we were trying to do when we phMXrZ-qXLy-00022-00005536-00005670 determined that there were being phMXrZ-qXLy-00023-00005671-00005806 ballots being pulled out from underneath phMXrZ-qXLy-00024-00005807-00006031 this table is phMXrZ-qXLy-00025-00006032-00006175 you know what was the chain of custody phMXrZ-qXLy-00026-00006176-00006343 where did they come from who put them phMXrZ-qXLy-00027-00006344-00006383 there phMXrZ-qXLy-00028-00006384-00006646 when did they put them there we only phMXrZ-qXLy-00029-00006647-00006775 reviewed this at about one in the phMXrZ-qXLy-00030-00006776-00006927 morning last night for a couple of hours phMXrZ-qXLy-00031-00006928-00007103 so we're going to need about 14 hours to phMXrZ-qXLy-00032-00007104-00007246 watch it carefully because we fast phMXrZ-qXLy-00033-00007247-00007359 forwarded through it phMXrZ-qXLy-00034-00007359-00007606 several times and could not find that phMXrZ-qXLy-00035-00007608-00007742 particular frame but here's what we can phMXrZ-qXLy-00036-00007743-00007910 tell you for sure phMXrZ-qXLy-00037-00007911-00008087 at about eight o'clock in the morning phMXrZ-qXLy-00038-00008088-00008207 we're going to roll this back and show phMXrZ-qXLy-00039-00008208-00008255 it to you phMXrZ-qXLy-00040-00008256-00008414 there you go so now they're going to phMXrZ-qXLy-00041-00008415-00008542 start pulling these ballots out from phMXrZ-qXLy-00042-00008543-00008774 under this table phMXrZ-qXLy-00043-00008775-00009063 this table the black one was placed phMXrZ-qXLy-00044-00009064-00009151 there phMXrZ-qXLy-00045-00009152-00009446 by the lady with the blonde braids at phMXrZ-qXLy-00046-00009447-00009510 about 8 phMXrZ-qXLy-00047-00009511-00009751 22 a.m in the morning so she put that phMXrZ-qXLy-00048-00009752-00009951 table there phMXrZ-qXLy-00049-00009952-00010103 so the same person who's staying behind phMXrZ-qXLy-00050-00010104-00010231 now the same person who cleared the phMXrZ-qXLy-00051-00010232-00010383 place out under the pretense that we're phMXrZ-qXLy-00052-00010384-00010567 going to stop counting phMXrZ-qXLy-00053-00010568-00010871 is the person who put the table there at phMXrZ-qXLy-00054-00010872-00010895 8 phMXrZ-qXLy-00055-00010896-00011238 22 in the morning yeah i saw four phMXrZ-qXLy-00056-00011239-00011406 suitcases come out from underneath the phMXrZ-qXLy-00057-00011407-00011451 table phMXrZ-qXLy-00058-00011452-00012151 [Music] phMXrZ-qXLy-00059-00012152-00012278 yeah upper right hand you see the phMXrZ-qXLy-00060-00012279-00012463 gentleman in the red phMXrZ-qXLy-00061-00012464-00013319 so he just pulled one out phMXrZ-qXLy-00062-00013319-00013503 so what are these ballots doing there phMXrZ-qXLy-00063-00013504-00013694 separate from all the other ballots phMXrZ-qXLy-00064-00013695-00013822 and why are they only counting them phMXrZ-qXLy-00065-00013823-00013951 whenever the place is cleared out with phMXrZ-qXLy-00066-00013952-00014199 no witnesses phMXrZ-qXLy-00067-00014200-00014503 is the question phMXrZ-qXLy-00068-00014504-00014927 so these machines can process phMXrZ-qXLy-00069-00014928-00015238 about 3 000 ballots an hour you have phMXrZ-qXLy-00070-00015240-00015319 multiple phMXrZ-qXLy-00071-00015319-00015543 multiple machines there and they're phMXrZ-qXLy-00072-00015544-00015686 there for two hours phMXrZ-qXLy-00073-00015687-00015975 so you do the math how many ballots went phMXrZ-qXLy-00074-00015976-00016111 through those machines in those two phMXrZ-qXLy-00075-00016112-00016255 hours when there was no one there to phMXrZ-qXLy-00076-00016256-00016391 supervise to be present phMXrZ-qXLy-00077-00016392-00016686 consistent with your statutes and rules phMXrZ-qXLy-00078-00016687-00016927 to supervise the tabulation phMXrZ-qXLy-00079-00016928-00017119 we believe that could easily be and phMXrZ-qXLy-00080-00017120-00017247 probably is certainly phMXrZ-qXLy-00081-00017248-00017447 beyond the margin of victory in this phMXrZ-qXLy-00082-00017448-00017703 race phMXrZ-qXLy-00083-00017704-00017847 because if it's only three scanners phMXrZ-qXLy-00084-00017848-00018094 working for two hours right that's 18 phMXrZ-qXLy-00085-00018095-00018135 000 phMXrZ-qXLy-00086-00018136-00019135 ballots that went through phMXrZ-qXLy-00087-00019136-00019463 so we're now at 1109. there were phMXrZ-qXLy-00088-00019464-00019686 in addition to the four workers that you phMXrZ-qXLy-00089-00019687-00019839 see there phMXrZ-qXLy-00090-00019840-00020047 there were two other people who were phMXrZ-qXLy-00091-00020048-00020143 bringing phMXrZ-qXLy-00092-00020144-00020391 ballots in and out uh the gentleman in phMXrZ-qXLy-00093-00020392-00020558 red that you saw phMXrZ-qXLy-00094-00020559-00020855 and then a second person i can't tell if phMXrZ-qXLy-00095-00020856-00021094 it's a male or female based on their phMXrZ-qXLy-00096-00021095-00021407 hair being pulled back in their mask but phMXrZ-qXLy-00097-00021408-00021983 in any event that's six total people phMXrZ-qXLy-00098-00021984-00022183 and so if we were to sit here for the phMXrZ-qXLy-00099-00022184-00022391 next two hours what we would see phMXrZ-qXLy-00100-00022392-00022614 is this operation just goes on and on phMXrZ-qXLy-00101-00022615-00022743 and on phMXrZ-qXLy-00102-00022744-00023063 they're scanning until about 12 55 in phMXrZ-qXLy-00103-00023064-00023191 the morning phMXrZ-qXLy-00104-00023192-00023558 so we kept the the video running phMXrZ-qXLy-00105-00023559-00023855 and you know we can show you the people phMXrZ-qXLy-00106-00023856-00024047 who gave us the affidavits phMXrZ-qXLy-00107-00024048-00024239 reappearing at that time just as they phMXrZ-qXLy-00108-00024240-00024407 said around 1am phMXrZ-qXLy-00109-00024408-00024591 to find out are they in fact counting phMXrZ-qXLy-00110-00024592-00024711 after they told us they would stop phMXrZ-qXLy-00111-00024712-00024767 working phMXrZ-qXLy-00112-00024768-00025022 or not um and we will fast forward to phMXrZ-qXLy-00113-00025023-00025175 that but have you all seen as much as phMXrZ-qXLy-00114-00025176-00025319 you'd like to see of what's phMXrZ-qXLy-00115-00025320-00025591 happening here i think so i think you phMXrZ-qXLy-00116-00025592-00025687 basically get the idea phMXrZ-qXLy-00117-00025688-00025911 unless any member wants to see more or phMXrZ-qXLy-00118-00025912-00026070 you have any questions phMXrZ-qXLy-00119-00026072-00026351 no let's go ahead okay so let's fast phMXrZ-qXLy-00120-00026352-00026439 forward phMXrZ-qXLy-00121-00026439-00028407 to about 12 55 in the morning phMXrZ-qXLy-00122-00028408-00028614 okay so it's updated to 1250. you can phMXrZ-qXLy-00123-00028616-00028823 see these people are still there phMXrZ-qXLy-00124-00028824-00029679 up in the upper right hand corner phMXrZ-qXLy-00125-00029680-00029918 basically they've wrapped up this is the phMXrZ-qXLy-00126-00029919-00030190 end of their operation phMXrZ-qXLy-00127-00030191-00030399 they've now completed about two hours of phMXrZ-qXLy-00128-00030400-00030527 unsupervised phMXrZ-qXLy-00129-00030527-00030862 tabulation of ballots so now you're phMXrZ-qXLy-00130-00030863-00031318 going to watch them leave phMXrZ-qXLy-00131-00031319-00031735 and phMXrZ-qXLy-00132-00031736-00032062 let's fast forward to um phMXrZ-qXLy-00133-00032063-00032439 let's go to 1 30. phMXrZ-qXLy-00134-00032439-00032711 i think it's been between 130 and 145 is phMXrZ-qXLy-00135-00032712-00032846 when phMXrZ-qXLy-00136-00032847-00033095 our two witnesses come back they had to phMXrZ-qXLy-00137-00033096-00033262 fight through security to get in there phMXrZ-qXLy-00138-00033263-00033455 but they did phMXrZ-qXLy-00139-00033456-00033695 and they say in their affidavits that phMXrZ-qXLy-00140-00033696-00033879 two different people affirm for them phMXrZ-qXLy-00141-00033880-00034111 that people have been counting from you phMXrZ-qXLy-00142-00034112-00034183 know phMXrZ-qXLy-00143-00034184-00034439 10 30 when they cleared out until about phMXrZ-qXLy-00144-00034440-00034623 approximately five minutes before they phMXrZ-qXLy-00145-00034624-00034895 arrived phMXrZ-qXLy-00146-00034896-00035015 and they had the names of those people phMXrZ-qXLy-00147-00035016-00035246 who told them that phMXrZ-qXLy-00148-00035247-00035431 okay now we're looking at what is that 1 phMXrZ-qXLy-00149-00035432-00037046 42 in the morning phMXrZ-qXLy-00150-00037047-00037230 is there a way to fast forward a bit or phMXrZ-qXLy-00151-00037231-00037623 make it go a little faster phMXrZ-qXLy-00152-00037624-00037767 okay there are guys right there in the phMXrZ-qXLy-00153-00037768-00037959 lower left hand corner so they've now phMXrZ-qXLy-00154-00037960-00037999 returned phMXrZ-qXLy-00155-00038000-00038159 to state farm arena having heard from phMXrZ-qXLy-00156-00038160-00038287 the press that they had continued phMXrZ-qXLy-00157-00038288-00038343 counting phMXrZ-qXLy-00158-00038344-00038446 because they wanted to see for phMXrZ-qXLy-00159-00038447-00038687 themselves if that was really happening phMXrZ-qXLy-00160-00038688-00038823 which was a complete contradiction to phMXrZ-qXLy-00161-00038824-00039007 what they had been told by at least phMXrZ-qXLy-00162-00039008-00039327 one person from fulton county who's an phMXrZ-qXLy-00163-00039328-00039502 employee phMXrZ-qXLy-00164-00039503-00039687 and spokesperson and also the lady in phMXrZ-qXLy-00165-00039688-00039974 the blonde braids we spoke about earlier phMXrZ-qXLy-00166-00039975-00040143 and so they see for themselves and from phMXrZ-qXLy-00167-00040144-00040599 this we get the affidavit phMXrZ-qXLy-00168-00040600-00040727 i don't know the name of the lady in the phMXrZ-qXLy-00169-00040728-00040990 blonde braids um they simply gave the phMXrZ-qXLy-00170-00040991-00041127 description phMXrZ-qXLy-00171-00041128-00041358 to us and you can you can make out phMXrZ-qXLy-00172-00041359-00041511 clearly who she is based on the people phMXrZ-qXLy-00173-00041512-00041671 in the in the film phMXrZ-qXLy-00174-00041672-00041887 um lady in the blonde braids halfway phMXrZ-qXLy-00175-00041888-00042046 down her back is the person who yelled phMXrZ-qXLy-00176-00042047-00042167 out everyone leave and stop phMXrZ-qXLy-00177-00042168-00042511 counting i believe ms waller is the phMXrZ-qXLy-00178-00042512-00042718 uh spokesperson for fulton county phMXrZ-qXLy-00179-00042719-00042830 elections who was phMXrZ-qXLy-00180-00042831-00043030 who remained behind the other two people phMXrZ-qXLy-00181-00043031-00043190 they don't have names for phMXrZ-qXLy-00182-00043191-00043367 they just said they were older women and phMXrZ-qXLy-00183-00043368-00043558 one of them had the name of ruby across phMXrZ-qXLy-00184-00043559-00043599 their phMXrZ-qXLy-00185-00043600-00043783 shirt somewhere and that's as much as phMXrZ-qXLy-00186-00043784-00044007 they know about who those people were phMXrZ-qXLy-00187-00044008-00044343 um but so our guys go in they look phMXrZ-qXLy-00188-00044344-00044399 around phMXrZ-qXLy-00189-00044400-00044630 they ask a few questions and they leave phMXrZ-qXLy-00190-00044631-00044799 it is from their affidavits that we even phMXrZ-qXLy-00191-00044800-00044855 knew phMXrZ-qXLy-00192-00044856-00045102 to ask about this and you might recall phMXrZ-qXLy-00193-00045103-00045255 that the press reported phMXrZ-qXLy-00194-00045256-00045558 there was like a supposed water break or phMXrZ-qXLy-00195-00045559-00045718 water main break or pipe break or phMXrZ-qXLy-00196-00045719-00045790 whatever phMXrZ-qXLy-00197-00045791-00046023 and this was an excuse for people phMXrZ-qXLy-00198-00046024-00046183 clearing out of state farm phMXrZ-qXLy-00199-00046184-00046495 arena it's not clear from the affidavits phMXrZ-qXLy-00200-00046496-00046567 i saw phMXrZ-qXLy-00201-00046568-00046783 whether or not that was the reason given phMXrZ-qXLy-00202-00046784-00046943 by the election official or whether they phMXrZ-qXLy-00203-00046944-00047055 gave any reason at all phMXrZ-qXLy-00204-00047056-00047302 they just said stop we're leaving we'll phMXrZ-qXLy-00205-00047303-00047479 be back at 8 30. phMXrZ-qXLy-00206-00047480-00047686 so i don't know if that was a play here phMXrZ-qXLy-00207-00047687-00047951 or not phMXrZ-qXLy-00208-00047952-00048286 um okay can we back up to 8 phMXrZ-qXLy-00209-00048287-00048599 22 am in the morning phMXrZ-qXLy-00210-00048600-00048862 same frames because we wanted to know phMXrZ-qXLy-00211-00048863-00049118 when did that table get put there phMXrZ-qXLy-00212-00049119-00049335 who put it there when did the ballots phMXrZ-qXLy-00213-00049336-00049446 get put there phMXrZ-qXLy-00214-00049447-00049935 who put it there phMXrZ-qXLy-00215-00049936-00050262 okay so 821 you'll notice phMXrZ-qXLy-00216-00050263-00050390 the table's not there at all here it phMXrZ-qXLy-00217-00050391-00050558 comes there's the table going in that phMXrZ-qXLy-00218-00050559-00050695 we're talking about where the ballots phMXrZ-qXLy-00219-00050696-00050743 were phMXrZ-qXLy-00220-00050744-00051055 obscured that lady who's moving it is phMXrZ-qXLy-00221-00051056-00051319 the lady with the blonde braids phMXrZ-qXLy-00222-00051320-00051487 she's dressed differently in the morning phMXrZ-qXLy-00223-00051488-00051607 so it took us a while to figure out phMXrZ-qXLy-00224-00051608-00051758 that's the same person that you see at phMXrZ-qXLy-00225-00051759-00051807 night phMXrZ-qXLy-00226-00051808-00051999 with the blue apron on who's yelling for phMXrZ-qXLy-00227-00052000-00052111 everyone to leave phMXrZ-qXLy-00228-00052112-00052311 and who stays behind to help tabulate phMXrZ-qXLy-00229-00052312-00052575 ballots after they've all left phMXrZ-qXLy-00230-00052576-00052838 so i can see that she's the one who phMXrZ-qXLy-00231-00052839-00053007 chose to place that table there phMXrZ-qXLy-00232-00053008-00053311 close to the scanners phMXrZ-qXLy-00233-00053312-00053542 and so the video is still under review phMXrZ-qXLy-00234-00053544-00053711 we need to spend hours reviewing phMXrZ-qXLy-00235-00053712-00053799 carefully phMXrZ-qXLy-00236-00053800-00053966 how those ballots got there but we can phMXrZ-qXLy-00237-00053967-00054079 tell you that it appears to be an phMXrZ-qXLy-00238-00054079-00054238 aberration from how the other ballots phMXrZ-qXLy-00239-00054239-00054350 were handled phMXrZ-qXLy-00240-00054351-00054911 in that room throughout that day phMXrZ-qXLy-00241-00054912-00055150 so that's the gist of it do you have any phMXrZ-qXLy-00242-00055151-00055212 questions phMXrZ-qXLy-00243-00055213-00055959 [Music] phMXrZ-qXLy-00244-00055960-00056238 fulton county chairman rob pitts phMXrZ-qXLy-00245-00056239-00056447 testified in a committee earlier today phMXrZ-qXLy-00246-00056448-00056804 that the water break phMXrZ-qXLy-00247-00056804-00057482 [Music] phMXrZ-qXLy-00248-00057483-00057974 occurred phMXrZ-qXLy-00249-00057975-00058487 [Music] phMXrZ-qXLy-00250-00058488-00058695 you piBKTgttDPM-00000-00001104-00001231 my name is hans van dijk i'm an piBKTgttDPM-00001-00001232-00001391 associate professor at the department of piBKTgttDPM-00002-00001392-00001623 organization studies piBKTgttDPM-00003-00001623-00001775 from our university piBKTgttDPM-00004-00001776-00001991 school of social and behavioral sciences piBKTgttDPM-00005-00001992-00002199 and i'm very happy to piBKTgttDPM-00006-00002200-00002302 moderate piBKTgttDPM-00007-00002303-00002463 host this piBKTgttDPM-00008-00002464-00002871 session on altruism piBKTgttDPM-00009-00002872-00003087 we're going to hear great speakers today piBKTgttDPM-00010-00003088-00003295 so we have three great speakers who will piBKTgttDPM-00011-00003296-00003535 talk about altruism and volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00012-00003536-00003735 from three different perspectives piBKTgttDPM-00013-00003736-00004006 um they will talk it's about 20 minutes piBKTgttDPM-00014-00004007-00004279 and after there's about five minutes for piBKTgttDPM-00015-00004280-00004447 questions and answers piBKTgttDPM-00016-00004448-00004679 from their side piBKTgttDPM-00017-00004680-00004838 after the first two speakers we have a piBKTgttDPM-00018-00004839-00005038 break of five minutes now a break of 10 piBKTgttDPM-00019-00005039-00005231 minutes even and then there will be the piBKTgttDPM-00020-00005232-00005454 third speaker and after that we have piBKTgttDPM-00021-00005455-00005638 four representatives from four student piBKTgttDPM-00022-00005639-00005902 organizations so we have the the red piBKTgttDPM-00023-00005903-00006199 cross help desk we have served the city piBKTgttDPM-00024-00006200-00006567 we have vida fidei and um we have let me piBKTgttDPM-00025-00006568-00006927 briefly check fraxissam yes piBKTgttDPM-00026-00006928-00007046 they are going to explain a bit more piBKTgttDPM-00027-00007047-00007239 about their organization also when they piBKTgttDPM-00028-00007240-00007455 are standing here and then we make it piBKTgttDPM-00029-00007456-00007614 more interactive we have some statements piBKTgttDPM-00030-00007615-00007839 some discussion points to discuss with piBKTgttDPM-00031-00007840-00008142 them and with all of you piBKTgttDPM-00032-00008143-00008327 and all of that together piBKTgttDPM-00033-00008328-00008942 will take about 22 hours piBKTgttDPM-00034-00008943-00009206 in total piBKTgttDPM-00035-00009207-00009399 two hours piBKTgttDPM-00036-00009400-00009559 two hours piBKTgttDPM-00037-00009560-00009751 but we can also make it 20 hours because piBKTgttDPM-00038-00009752-00009951 i think we have enough material to piBKTgttDPM-00039-00009952-00010046 discuss piBKTgttDPM-00040-00010047-00010271 with all of us for so long this session piBKTgttDPM-00041-00010272-00010471 is also organized by the four student piBKTgttDPM-00042-00010472-00010606 organizations together with studio piBKTgttDPM-00043-00010607-00010727 general piBKTgttDPM-00044-00010728-00011006 here from from the university piBKTgttDPM-00045-00011007-00011151 and of course piBKTgttDPM-00046-00011152-00011342 this session we have great speakers piBKTgttDPM-00047-00011343-00011591 great input uh fantastic content so all piBKTgttDPM-00048-00011592-00011735 of that will be good but it will be even piBKTgttDPM-00049-00011736-00011983 better if all of you will also mingle in piBKTgttDPM-00050-00011984-00012214 the whole discussion uh so i really hope piBKTgttDPM-00051-00012215-00012478 that you will also actively participate piBKTgttDPM-00052-00012479-00012670 that would also make my job easier i may piBKTgttDPM-00053-00012671-00012966 add um just just for a very brief piBKTgttDPM-00054-00012967-00013199 introduction and understanding piBKTgttDPM-00055-00013200-00013455 who of you here is engaged in voluntary piBKTgttDPM-00056-00013456-00013711 work does voluntary work piBKTgttDPM-00057-00013712-00014063 yeah okay more than half i think yeah so piBKTgttDPM-00058-00014063-00014263 a big question i think that we're asking piBKTgttDPM-00059-00014263-00014399 today is piBKTgttDPM-00060-00014400-00014615 why are you doing that or for those of piBKTgttDPM-00061-00014616-00014791 you who are not volunteering why are you piBKTgttDPM-00062-00014791-00015094 not doing that um or why are the others piBKTgttDPM-00063-00015095-00015238 doing that piBKTgttDPM-00064-00015240-00015391 actually i'm preparing for this session piBKTgttDPM-00065-00015391-00015558 i have also been wondering myself like piBKTgttDPM-00066-00015559-00015727 okay and the stuff that i've done why piBKTgttDPM-00067-00015728-00016022 did i do it you know piBKTgttDPM-00068-00016023-00016199 sometimes it may sound very nice okay piBKTgttDPM-00069-00016200-00016327 you know i'm helping refugees or piBKTgttDPM-00070-00016328-00016503 something like that piBKTgttDPM-00071-00016504-00016694 but at the same time am i really doing piBKTgttDPM-00072-00016695-00016855 it for them and does it cost me piBKTgttDPM-00073-00016856-00017071 something or is it actually piBKTgttDPM-00074-00017072-00017271 that it also benefits me piBKTgttDPM-00075-00017272-00017422 because it helps me feel good about piBKTgttDPM-00076-00017423-00017527 myself piBKTgttDPM-00077-00017528-00017830 i i feel good like oh let me piBKTgttDPM-00078-00017831-00018039 see me be a good person or maybe i get piBKTgttDPM-00079-00018040-00018343 inspiration from it or i repress my piBKTgttDPM-00080-00018344-00018655 guilt of having a good life away from it piBKTgttDPM-00081-00018656-00018758 so piBKTgttDPM-00082-00018759-00018903 what's actually the reason why i'm doing piBKTgttDPM-00083-00018904-00019135 that and and those feelings are they piBKTgttDPM-00084-00019136-00019311 actually okay piBKTgttDPM-00085-00019312-00019527 those motivations are they okay well we piBKTgttDPM-00086-00019528-00019743 have some great speakers who hopefully piBKTgttDPM-00087-00019744-00019927 can help us and light a bit more about piBKTgttDPM-00088-00019928-00020047 that topic piBKTgttDPM-00089-00020048-00020175 um piBKTgttDPM-00090-00020176-00020383 speaking of which let's first go to the piBKTgttDPM-00091-00020384-00020622 first speaker felina van overbaker piBKTgttDPM-00092-00020623-00020807 felina is a piBKTgttDPM-00093-00020808-00021175 researcher a teacher and a speaker also piBKTgttDPM-00094-00021176-00021455 obviously piBKTgttDPM-00095-00021456-00021575 she works at the rotterdam school of piBKTgttDPM-00096-00021576-00021735 management where she part-time does her piBKTgttDPM-00097-00021736-00022119 phd on volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00098-00022120-00022286 with a special interest in volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00099-00022287-00022591 inclusion and third party volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00100-00022592-00022783 and piBKTgttDPM-00101-00022784-00022943 she's going to talk about the values piBKTgttDPM-00102-00022944-00023199 that we gain through volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00103-00023200-00024407 yeah so please give it up for felina piBKTgttDPM-00104-00024408-00024583 okay thank you piBKTgttDPM-00105-00024584-00024686 um piBKTgttDPM-00106-00024687-00024967 i was just saying that uh thank you for piBKTgttDPM-00107-00024968-00025207 already asking like two or three of the piBKTgttDPM-00108-00025208-00025447 questions that i was going to ask um and piBKTgttDPM-00109-00025448-00025662 and giving away half my presentation but piBKTgttDPM-00110-00025663-00025990 we're just going to do it all again piBKTgttDPM-00111-00025991-00026223 hi everyone so my name is felina van piBKTgttDPM-00112-00026224-00026414 overbake usually i introduce myself but piBKTgttDPM-00113-00026416-00026646 this time i don't have to do that piBKTgttDPM-00114-00026647-00026870 to start with and today i'm super piBKTgttDPM-00115-00026872-00027007 excited to be here because this is the piBKTgttDPM-00116-00027008-00027270 first time in years that i'm actually piBKTgttDPM-00117-00027272-00027439 speaking somewhere else than at my own piBKTgttDPM-00118-00027439-00027662 university so that's really cool piBKTgttDPM-00119-00027663-00027783 um piBKTgttDPM-00120-00027783-00027951 i will talk to you about the value of piBKTgttDPM-00121-00027952-00028214 volunteers which is the main theme of my piBKTgttDPM-00122-00028216-00028446 whole phd research piBKTgttDPM-00123-00028447-00028607 but before we start piBKTgttDPM-00124-00028608-00028767 about the value of volunteers i wanted piBKTgttDPM-00125-00028768-00028879 to talk to you about what is piBKTgttDPM-00126-00028880-00029070 volunteering actually piBKTgttDPM-00127-00029072-00029231 so volunteering is kind of an action piBKTgttDPM-00128-00029232-00029383 that comes together when we have piBKTgttDPM-00129-00029383-00029543 volunteer energy piBKTgttDPM-00130-00029544-00029774 which comes from the people themselves piBKTgttDPM-00131-00029775-00029918 the volunteers themselves when they have piBKTgttDPM-00132-00029919-00030111 the capability the willingness and the piBKTgttDPM-00133-00030112-00030318 availability to volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00134-00030319-00030543 and volunteer infrastructure so that's piBKTgttDPM-00135-00030544-00030751 the opportunities to volunteering for piBKTgttDPM-00136-00030752-00030911 example all of the things that volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00137-00030912-00031311 organizations can organize to actual um piBKTgttDPM-00138-00031312-00031711 to actually start the volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00139-00031712-00031846 and i promise to talk a little bit about piBKTgttDPM-00140-00031847-00031990 volunteering in the netherlands today piBKTgttDPM-00141-00031991-00032262 because you're not all from here piBKTgttDPM-00142-00032263-00032374 and the netherlands is a real piBKTgttDPM-00143-00032375-00032574 volunteering country piBKTgttDPM-00144-00032575-00032662 um piBKTgttDPM-00145-00032663-00032951 we have a lot of volunteers here as you piBKTgttDPM-00146-00032952-00033207 probably read before we started piBKTgttDPM-00147-00033208-00033318 and piBKTgttDPM-00148-00033319-00033551 we usually describe volunteering along piBKTgttDPM-00149-00033552-00033751 about four piBKTgttDPM-00150-00033752-00033902 different piBKTgttDPM-00151-00033903-00034102 sets piBKTgttDPM-00152-00034103-00034190 and piBKTgttDPM-00153-00034191-00034455 one of them is piBKTgttDPM-00154-00034456-00034655 um piBKTgttDPM-00155-00034656-00034790 sorry piBKTgttDPM-00156-00034791-00035111 whether it is mandatory or not mandatory piBKTgttDPM-00157-00035112-00035262 and in the netherlands piBKTgttDPM-00158-00035263-00035343 people piBKTgttDPM-00159-00035344-00035599 really feel that volunteering should be piBKTgttDPM-00160-00035600-00035815 not mandatory piBKTgttDPM-00161-00035816-00035983 because the word is volunteering right piBKTgttDPM-00162-00035984-00036055 not piBKTgttDPM-00163-00036056-00036343 full untolding as some people also say piBKTgttDPM-00164-00036344-00036630 when volunteering is mandatory they also piBKTgttDPM-00165-00036631-00036799 see it as being piBKTgttDPM-00166-00036800-00036990 definitely unpaid piBKTgttDPM-00167-00036991-00037246 getting nothing in return not even a cup piBKTgttDPM-00168-00037247-00037455 of coffee maybe although in my piBKTgttDPM-00169-00037456-00037615 experience and i don't know what yours piBKTgttDPM-00170-00037616-00037943 is most volunteers will expect that cup piBKTgttDPM-00171-00037944-00038159 of coffee at the end of their shift piBKTgttDPM-00172-00038160-00038262 i think piBKTgttDPM-00173-00038263-00038495 um but some of my friends were doing uh piBKTgttDPM-00174-00038496-00038751 the the counting of the votes yesterday piBKTgttDPM-00175-00038752-00038902 and one of them said that she was piBKTgttDPM-00176-00038903-00039111 promised pizza and she did not get pizza piBKTgttDPM-00177-00039112-00039590 afterwards and she was very upset piBKTgttDPM-00178-00039591-00039830 another thing is that it needs to be piBKTgttDPM-00179-00039831-00039974 organized piBKTgttDPM-00180-00039975-00040311 so we see volunteering as something that piBKTgttDPM-00181-00040312-00040462 you kind of know in advance that you're piBKTgttDPM-00182-00040463-00040662 going to do it you're doing it with an piBKTgttDPM-00183-00040663-00040895 organization and maybe even structured piBKTgttDPM-00184-00040896-00041127 so for example every friday afternoon piBKTgttDPM-00185-00041128-00041327 from three to five you will piBKTgttDPM-00186-00041328-00041558 go to a certain organization to serve piBKTgttDPM-00187-00041559-00041807 tea to elderly people piBKTgttDPM-00188-00041808-00041999 and then the last thing is that dutch piBKTgttDPM-00189-00042000-00042135 people think piBKTgttDPM-00190-00042136-00042390 that volunteering should really benefit piBKTgttDPM-00191-00042391-00042487 others piBKTgttDPM-00192-00042488-00042862 or the brother society piBKTgttDPM-00193-00042863-00043158 now piBKTgttDPM-00194-00043159-00043311 some people think piBKTgttDPM-00195-00043312-00043479 about that a little bit different as you piBKTgttDPM-00196-00043480-00043662 can see here there's a pure piBKTgttDPM-00197-00043663-00043855 interpretation that's definitely how the piBKTgttDPM-00198-00043856-00044143 dutch volunteering the very pure pure piBKTgttDPM-00199-00044144-00044311 interpretation but there's also a piBKTgttDPM-00200-00044312-00044607 broader interpretation where piBKTgttDPM-00201-00044608-00044823 you know it's okay if volunteering is a piBKTgttDPM-00202-00044824-00045046 little bit obligated for example when piBKTgttDPM-00203-00045047-00045223 we're talking about piBKTgttDPM-00204-00045224-00045343 i don't know piBKTgttDPM-00205-00045344-00045558 did anyone do that thing in high school piBKTgttDPM-00206-00045559-00045735 where you were supposed to volunteer for piBKTgttDPM-00207-00045736-00045935 a few a few hours a week for a couple of piBKTgttDPM-00208-00045936-00046143 years yeah piBKTgttDPM-00209-00046144-00046495 do you do you remember where piBKTgttDPM-00210-00046496-00046583 okay piBKTgttDPM-00211-00046584-00046967 and what did you do piBKTgttDPM-00212-00046968-00047151 okay you still call it volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00213-00047152-00047239 though piBKTgttDPM-00214-00047240-00047439 even though it was mandatory right yeah piBKTgttDPM-00215-00047440-00047711 okay piBKTgttDPM-00216-00047712-00047918 so that's that's kind of what obligated piBKTgttDPM-00217-00047919-00048158 volunteering can be and then piBKTgttDPM-00218-00048159-00048351 in the product interpretation you can piBKTgttDPM-00219-00048352-00048615 also get a little bit of a pain piBKTgttDPM-00220-00048616-00048774 it's funny because piBKTgttDPM-00221-00048775-00048943 in the netherlands people perceive piBKTgttDPM-00222-00048944-00049239 volunteering as having no pay at all piBKTgttDPM-00223-00049240-00049399 but it's actually one of the countries piBKTgttDPM-00224-00049400-00049535 where you can get a stipend for piBKTgttDPM-00225-00049536-00049718 volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00226-00049719-00049855 so people actually do make money here piBKTgttDPM-00227-00049856-00050030 volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00228-00050031-00050262 and then the structure can be informal piBKTgttDPM-00229-00050263-00050486 in broad interpretation and the piBKTgttDPM-00230-00050487-00050679 volunteering can also benefit the piBKTgttDPM-00231-00050680-00050830 volunteer themselves which is what we piBKTgttDPM-00232-00050831-00050974 will talk about a little bit more later piBKTgttDPM-00233-00050975-00051238 as well piBKTgttDPM-00234-00051239-00051430 so these are the numbers about piBKTgttDPM-00235-00051432-00051750 volunteering in the netherlands piBKTgttDPM-00236-00051751-00051926 and i think this is pretty impressive piBKTgttDPM-00237-00051927-00052126 about 40 to 50 percent of the dutch piBKTgttDPM-00238-00052127-00052279 people volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00239-00052279-00052447 and they volunteer like four or five piBKTgttDPM-00240-00052448-00052694 hours a week piBKTgttDPM-00241-00052695-00052854 that's one of the highest numbers in piBKTgttDPM-00242-00052855-00053207 europe and even in the whole world piBKTgttDPM-00243-00053208-00053350 can i can i see the hands again of piBKTgttDPM-00244-00053351-00053879 everyone that that does volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00245-00053879-00054135 yeah so that's even more than 50 piBKTgttDPM-00246-00054136-00054223 um piBKTgttDPM-00247-00054224-00054399 which i guess makes sense because a lot piBKTgttDPM-00248-00054400-00054550 of you are here piBKTgttDPM-00249-00054551-00054719 through the volunteering organizations piBKTgttDPM-00250-00054720-00054911 but still piBKTgttDPM-00251-00054912-00055142 what we also see here piBKTgttDPM-00252-00055144-00055454 is that the volunteers are on average a piBKTgttDPM-00253-00055455-00055599 little bit older piBKTgttDPM-00254-00055600-00055726 mostly piBKTgttDPM-00255-00055727-00056030 around the age of people that have kids piBKTgttDPM-00256-00056032-00056335 that go to school piBKTgttDPM-00257-00056336-00056550 why piBKTgttDPM-00258-00056551-00056911 any ideas piBKTgttDPM-00259-00056912-00057766 yes piBKTgttDPM-00260-00057767-00057942 money piBKTgttDPM-00261-00057944-00058182 it's it's it's a nice thought but not piBKTgttDPM-00262-00058183-00058407 exactly the one i'm looking for piBKTgttDPM-00263-00058408-00060103 someone in the back piBKTgttDPM-00264-00060104-00060303 that's a very altruistic thought piBKTgttDPM-00265-00060304-00060887 yeah also not the one i was going for piBKTgttDPM-00266-00060888-00061094 yes piBKTgttDPM-00267-00061095-00061279 their kids go to school and then the piBKTgttDPM-00268-00061279-00061423 parents go to the school to pick up piBKTgttDPM-00269-00061424-00061575 their kids and then the teacher finds piBKTgttDPM-00270-00061576-00061750 them and says hey you know what we have piBKTgttDPM-00271-00061751-00061903 a school outing next week will you piBKTgttDPM-00272-00061904-00062166 volunteer come with us to the zoo please piBKTgttDPM-00273-00062167-00062350 and then they bring their kids to ballet piBKTgttDPM-00274-00062351-00062519 or to the hockey club and then the piBKTgttDPM-00275-00062520-00062711 people there are like hey we need piBKTgttDPM-00276-00062712-00062887 parents to attend the bar and we need piBKTgttDPM-00277-00062888-00063063 someone to drive them to the game can piBKTgttDPM-00278-00063064-00063254 you please help us piBKTgttDPM-00279-00063255-00063463 so that's why that age is really highly piBKTgttDPM-00280-00063464-00063791 represented piBKTgttDPM-00281-00063791-00063935 so piBKTgttDPM-00282-00063936-00064303 estimated volunteer hours a year piBKTgttDPM-00283-00064304-00064575 very very many about piBKTgttDPM-00284-00064576-00064830 full-time equivalents so that's that's piBKTgttDPM-00285-00064832-00065166 really a lot piBKTgttDPM-00286-00065167-00065350 one of the places where people volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00287-00065351-00065719 a lot is in the food bank piBKTgttDPM-00288-00065720-00065935 and i'm the only reason i'm saying is piBKTgttDPM-00289-00065936-00066103 this is because i want to have the food piBKTgttDPM-00290-00066104-00066303 bank as an example for you during the piBKTgttDPM-00291-00066304-00066591 rest of this presentation piBKTgttDPM-00292-00066592-00066991 so so many volunteers why do they do it piBKTgttDPM-00293-00066992-00067167 well so many volunteers here why do you piBKTgttDPM-00294-00067168-00067982 do it piBKTgttDPM-00295-00067983-00068215 contribution to society piBKTgttDPM-00296-00068216-00068399 nice piBKTgttDPM-00297-00068400-00068919 any other answers piBKTgttDPM-00298-00068920-00069575 personal fulfillment nice one piBKTgttDPM-00299-00069576-00069743 you can learn something from it that's a piBKTgttDPM-00300-00069744-00069903 nice one piBKTgttDPM-00301-00069904-00070311 sometimes you have to piBKTgttDPM-00302-00070312-00070463 okay so piBKTgttDPM-00303-00070464-00070638 when it comes to reasons why people piBKTgttDPM-00304-00070639-00070791 volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00305-00070792-00071055 there's usually about piBKTgttDPM-00306-00071056-00071159 seven piBKTgttDPM-00307-00071160-00071535 uh no six sorry i miscounted there um so piBKTgttDPM-00308-00071536-00071750 one of them is for example piBKTgttDPM-00309-00071751-00072006 by uh it's called values and what they piBKTgttDPM-00310-00072007-00072215 mean by that is that you can really by piBKTgttDPM-00311-00072216-00072462 volunteering kind of stand up for what piBKTgttDPM-00312-00072463-00072599 you believe in you can really do piBKTgttDPM-00313-00072600-00072750 something piBKTgttDPM-00314-00072751-00072943 another thing is understanding which piBKTgttDPM-00315-00072944-00073087 means that you want to gain a better piBKTgttDPM-00316-00073088-00073223 understanding of piBKTgttDPM-00317-00073224-00073415 what the world is and what the world piBKTgttDPM-00318-00073416-00073575 means piBKTgttDPM-00319-00073576-00073799 and then those two are really the more piBKTgttDPM-00320-00073800-00074038 intrinsic or altruistic values i would piBKTgttDPM-00321-00074039-00074135 say piBKTgttDPM-00322-00074136-00074367 and then there's the social one piBKTgttDPM-00323-00074368-00074567 this could be the one where someone is piBKTgttDPM-00324-00074568-00074711 like hey piBKTgttDPM-00325-00074712-00074919 can you help me out because piBKTgttDPM-00326-00074920-00075175 you know your kid is in this school piBKTgttDPM-00327-00075176-00075262 so piBKTgttDPM-00328-00075263-00075438 i want you to help me and you can't piBKTgttDPM-00329-00075439-00075759 really say no because social pressure piBKTgttDPM-00330-00075760-00075967 there's but also piBKTgttDPM-00331-00075968-00076167 maybe you want to meet new people so piBKTgttDPM-00332-00076168-00076350 another reason for social could also be piBKTgttDPM-00333-00076351-00076447 that piBKTgttDPM-00334-00076448-00076567 and then there's piBKTgttDPM-00335-00076568-00076791 i don't know career where you want to piBKTgttDPM-00336-00076792-00076935 learn some new skills you want to do piBKTgttDPM-00337-00076936-00077062 some new stuff you want to put it on piBKTgttDPM-00338-00077063-00077287 your cv so you can get that job that you piBKTgttDPM-00339-00077288-00077455 want piBKTgttDPM-00340-00077456-00077711 protective piBKTgttDPM-00341-00077712-00077887 might be a bit out of piBKTgttDPM-00342-00077888-00078182 like you might not know why it's here piBKTgttDPM-00343-00078183-00078311 protective piBKTgttDPM-00344-00078312-00078631 how could volunteering be protective piBKTgttDPM-00345-00078632-00079319 any ideas piBKTgttDPM-00346-00079320-00080550 to your let's say to yourself yeah piBKTgttDPM-00347-00080551-00080750 yeah piBKTgttDPM-00348-00080751-00080903 not exactly what i was looking for i piBKTgttDPM-00349-00080904-00081111 would say that's more of a of a skill piBKTgttDPM-00350-00081112-00081375 skill enhancement thing for example i piBKTgttDPM-00351-00081376-00082735 saw another hand in the back yeah piBKTgttDPM-00352-00082736-00083062 i i would say that counts more of a as piBKTgttDPM-00353-00083063-00083359 as of the value component here piBKTgttDPM-00354-00083360-00083550 so protective here is really protecting piBKTgttDPM-00355-00083551-00083759 yourself from maybe bad stuff that is piBKTgttDPM-00356-00083760-00083950 happening in your life piBKTgttDPM-00357-00083951-00084126 so maybe piBKTgttDPM-00358-00084127-00084271 you feel lonely at home so you want to piBKTgttDPM-00359-00084272-00084623 go out and volunteer or piBKTgttDPM-00360-00084624-00084831 you're in a divorce and you just really piBKTgttDPM-00361-00084832-00084991 want to get away from your almost piBKTgttDPM-00362-00084992-00085118 ex-partner piBKTgttDPM-00363-00085119-00085271 and you go out and volunteer for a piBKTgttDPM-00364-00085272-00085415 little bit piBKTgttDPM-00365-00085416-00085543 and then there's just a regular piBKTgttDPM-00366-00085544-00085638 enhancement piBKTgttDPM-00367-00085639-00085823 which is all kinds of things that will piBKTgttDPM-00368-00085824-00085999 make you your life better because you're piBKTgttDPM-00369-00086000-00086367 volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00370-00086368-00086623 so so many volunteer hours piBKTgttDPM-00371-00086624-00086879 how do we value all of those volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00372-00086880-00087223 hours piBKTgttDPM-00373-00087224-00087423 so if we're looking at that food bank piBKTgttDPM-00374-00087424-00087550 example piBKTgttDPM-00375-00087551-00087711 the food pack in the netherlands has a piBKTgttDPM-00376-00087712-00087894 lot of volunteers piBKTgttDPM-00377-00087895-00088159 almost 13 000 piBKTgttDPM-00378-00088160-00088343 could you imagine if all of those people piBKTgttDPM-00379-00088344-00088687 were paid staff piBKTgttDPM-00380-00088688-00088999 that would be a lot of money piBKTgttDPM-00381-00089000-00089150 a lot of money piBKTgttDPM-00382-00089151-00089318 and that's one of the ways in which piBKTgttDPM-00383-00089319-00089599 academics but also practitioners count piBKTgttDPM-00384-00089600-00089782 for volunteer hours is how they value piBKTgttDPM-00385-00089783-00089943 them economically piBKTgttDPM-00386-00089944-00090215 but there's also a lot of other ways how piBKTgttDPM-00387-00090216-00090382 the piBKTgttDPM-00388-00090383-00090559 sorry how academics piBKTgttDPM-00389-00090560-00090838 kind of try to calculate that volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00390-00090839-00091055 value and one of them for example is the piBKTgttDPM-00391-00091056-00091335 opportunity cost method where they look piBKTgttDPM-00392-00091336-00091631 at okay this volunteer that's working at piBKTgttDPM-00393-00091632-00091823 the food bank piBKTgttDPM-00394-00091824-00092087 if they were doing their actual normal piBKTgttDPM-00395-00092088-00092175 job piBKTgttDPM-00396-00092176-00092415 how much would they get paid for that piBKTgttDPM-00397-00092416-00092694 and then we check the amount of hours piBKTgttDPM-00398-00092695-00092855 that they worked and then we calculate piBKTgttDPM-00399-00092856-00093126 the opportunity cost value piBKTgttDPM-00400-00093127-00093399 does that make sense piBKTgttDPM-00401-00093400-00093503 there's piBKTgttDPM-00402-00093504-00093855 a lot of ways to do this piBKTgttDPM-00403-00093856-00093974 and i'm not gonna tell you about all of piBKTgttDPM-00404-00093975-00094279 them because i honestly don't think that piBKTgttDPM-00405-00094280-00094631 volunteering can only be calculated in piBKTgttDPM-00406-00094632-00094774 an economic way piBKTgttDPM-00407-00094775-00095038 um so that's why i would like to move on piBKTgttDPM-00408-00095039-00095167 from that piBKTgttDPM-00409-00095168-00095255 um piBKTgttDPM-00410-00095256-00095487 so with that i already gave piBKTgttDPM-00411-00095488-00095855 my answer to my own question um piBKTgttDPM-00412-00095856-00096047 i don't think volunteer value can be piBKTgttDPM-00413-00096048-00096382 expressed only in euros it's a nice way piBKTgttDPM-00414-00096383-00096550 for policy makers piBKTgttDPM-00415-00096551-00096855 i guess they kind of need it but piBKTgttDPM-00416-00096856-00097238 how else can we value volunteer hours piBKTgttDPM-00417-00097239-00097574 one of the things that we do is we look piBKTgttDPM-00418-00097575-00097671 at piBKTgttDPM-00419-00097672-00097926 the value for the beneficiary so if we piBKTgttDPM-00420-00097927-00098150 look at that food bank example piBKTgttDPM-00421-00098151-00098311 then we're thinking about the people piBKTgttDPM-00422-00098312-00098494 that go to the food bank what does it piBKTgttDPM-00423-00098495-00098647 mean for them piBKTgttDPM-00424-00098648-00098926 to have the volunteers help them piBKTgttDPM-00425-00098927-00099238 instead of paid staff piBKTgttDPM-00426-00099239-00099406 so one of the things that we know is piBKTgttDPM-00427-00099407-00099647 that volunteers are piBKTgttDPM-00428-00099648-00099887 a lot better piBKTgttDPM-00429-00099888-00100087 in creating meaningful relationships piBKTgttDPM-00430-00100088-00100262 with people piBKTgttDPM-00431-00100263-00100455 and that's partly because there's this piBKTgttDPM-00432-00100456-00100799 kind of equality between them piBKTgttDPM-00433-00100800-00100991 they don't feel like there's someone piBKTgttDPM-00434-00100992-00101174 always scribbling down what people are piBKTgttDPM-00435-00101175-00101423 saying or thinking piBKTgttDPM-00436-00101424-00101574 there's also piBKTgttDPM-00437-00101575-00101799 the idea of sincerity piBKTgttDPM-00438-00101800-00102006 and that's where that altruism that was piBKTgttDPM-00439-00102007-00102167 mentioned already a couple of times piBKTgttDPM-00440-00102168-00102335 comes comes in people feel like you are piBKTgttDPM-00441-00102336-00102534 really here for me you're not doing this piBKTgttDPM-00442-00102535-00102799 for money you're coming here because you piBKTgttDPM-00443-00102800-00103047 know you want to help me so you must be piBKTgttDPM-00444-00103048-00103271 sincere piBKTgttDPM-00445-00103272-00103518 and that also creates a different level piBKTgttDPM-00446-00103519-00103894 of trust piBKTgttDPM-00447-00103895-00104094 and then the quality of service is piBKTgttDPM-00448-00104095-00104206 different piBKTgttDPM-00449-00104207-00104423 and that mainly has to do piBKTgttDPM-00450-00104424-00104647 with the fact that piBKTgttDPM-00451-00104648-00105086 you know if you're a volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00452-00105088-00105327 no wait i'm gonna ask the question first piBKTgttDPM-00453-00105328-00105543 you're all volunteers you probably got piBKTgttDPM-00454-00105544-00105734 some rules right when you when you piBKTgttDPM-00455-00105735-00105910 started volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00456-00105911-00106031 at the place piBKTgttDPM-00457-00106032-00106263 that you volunteer in piBKTgttDPM-00458-00106264-00106495 did you ever break them piBKTgttDPM-00459-00106496-00107263 you can be honest piBKTgttDPM-00460-00107264-00107415 did you ever break the rules that your piBKTgttDPM-00461-00107416-00107719 volunteer manager gave you piBKTgttDPM-00462-00107720-00108215 no piBKTgttDPM-00463-00108216-00108527 because what i've learned in my research piBKTgttDPM-00464-00108528-00108743 is that volunteer managers they give piBKTgttDPM-00465-00108744-00108951 their volunteers the rules and then the piBKTgttDPM-00466-00108952-00109095 volunteers say piBKTgttDPM-00467-00109096-00109327 yes of course we will do that and then piBKTgttDPM-00468-00109328-00109478 they will turn around piBKTgttDPM-00469-00109479-00109871 and they will do it anyway piBKTgttDPM-00470-00109872-00110023 and that can sometimes really improve piBKTgttDPM-00471-00110024-00110183 the quality of service because the piBKTgttDPM-00472-00110183-00110423 beneficiaries really feel like there's a piBKTgttDPM-00473-00110424-00110583 better connection piBKTgttDPM-00474-00110583-00110695 and then there's a different form of piBKTgttDPM-00475-00110696-00110839 continuity piBKTgttDPM-00476-00110840-00110958 but if you're interested in that we can piBKTgttDPM-00477-00110959-00111439 talk about it another thing piBKTgttDPM-00478-00111440-00111686 another form of added value piBKTgttDPM-00479-00111688-00111983 is not so much visible in the food bank piBKTgttDPM-00480-00111983-00112271 because in the food bank the volunteers piBKTgttDPM-00481-00112272-00112366 are really piBKTgttDPM-00482-00112367-00112463 working piBKTgttDPM-00483-00112464-00113063 well actually not always piBKTgttDPM-00484-00113064-00113271 so actually also in the food bank a lot piBKTgttDPM-00485-00113272-00113534 of the volunteers do not come they're piBKTgttDPM-00486-00113535-00113823 not in contact with the visitors of the piBKTgttDPM-00487-00113824-00113983 food bank piBKTgttDPM-00488-00113983-00114175 but still there's a lot of value in the piBKTgttDPM-00489-00114176-00114334 work that the volunteers do beyond that piBKTgttDPM-00490-00114335-00114631 economic value piBKTgttDPM-00491-00114632-00114910 and a few of those things for example piBKTgttDPM-00492-00114911-00115183 are let's start with credibility because piBKTgttDPM-00493-00115183-00115310 the last time i gave a lecture about piBKTgttDPM-00494-00115311-00115502 this was on tuesday and my students piBKTgttDPM-00495-00115503-00115678 really questioned this piBKTgttDPM-00496-00115679-00115966 so i wonder if you feel the same piBKTgttDPM-00497-00115967-00116199 the idea is that volunteers are more piBKTgttDPM-00498-00116200-00116478 credible than paid staff when it comes piBKTgttDPM-00499-00116479-00116999 to for example fundraising piBKTgttDPM-00500-00117000-00117223 why piBKTgttDPM-00501-00117224-00117551 if i am at a birthday party for example piBKTgttDPM-00502-00117552-00117719 and i'm talking to you and i'm telling piBKTgttDPM-00503-00117720-00117910 you you know what i work for the food piBKTgttDPM-00504-00117911-00118110 bank this is such an amazing piBKTgttDPM-00505-00118111-00118375 organization we help so many people piBKTgttDPM-00506-00118376-00118663 we're doing only great stuff it's it's piBKTgttDPM-00507-00118664-00118815 really really good you know what you piBKTgttDPM-00508-00118816-00119102 should donate piBKTgttDPM-00509-00119103-00119295 and then after that i tell you that the piBKTgttDPM-00510-00119296-00119502 food bank actually pays me my monthly piBKTgttDPM-00511-00119503-00119807 wage piBKTgttDPM-00512-00119808-00119975 do you still would you still feel like piBKTgttDPM-00513-00119976-00120158 donating piBKTgttDPM-00514-00120159-00120319 or would you feel like donating more if piBKTgttDPM-00515-00120320-00120463 i told you that i work there as a piBKTgttDPM-00516-00120464-00120758 volunteer and i do that in my free time piBKTgttDPM-00517-00120759-00121366 and i don't benefit from it at all piBKTgttDPM-00518-00121367-00121727 maybe piBKTgttDPM-00519-00121728-00121927 i'm you know what piBKTgttDPM-00520-00121928-00122047 i'm not piBKTgttDPM-00521-00122048-00122247 claiming 100 truth here piBKTgttDPM-00522-00122248-00122478 um piBKTgttDPM-00523-00122479-00122623 but yeah piBKTgttDPM-00524-00122624-00122783 i think i would be piBKTgttDPM-00525-00122783-00122958 more piBKTgttDPM-00526-00122959-00123175 inclined to believe a volunteer over a piBKTgttDPM-00527-00123176-00123343 paid staff especially when they come and piBKTgttDPM-00528-00123344-00123486 ask for my money piBKTgttDPM-00529-00123488-00123663 because i would not feel like i'd be piBKTgttDPM-00530-00123664-00124119 paying their wage piBKTgttDPM-00531-00124120-00124231 okay piBKTgttDPM-00532-00124232-00124399 i just saw that i only have two more piBKTgttDPM-00533-00124400-00124678 minutes so i have to like i always think piBKTgttDPM-00534-00124679-00124847 that i have all the time in the world piBKTgttDPM-00535-00124848-00125143 and then and then i don't piBKTgttDPM-00536-00125144-00125334 i think one of the most important things piBKTgttDPM-00537-00125335-00125439 here piBKTgttDPM-00538-00125440-00125702 um is talking about the added value for piBKTgttDPM-00539-00125703-00126014 the individual volunteer so for most of piBKTgttDPM-00540-00126015-00126102 you piBKTgttDPM-00541-00126103-00126358 and in my belief piBKTgttDPM-00542-00126359-00126447 oh piBKTgttDPM-00543-00126448-00126671 i messed something up in my slides piBKTgttDPM-00544-00126672-00126934 um in my perception piBKTgttDPM-00545-00126935-00127183 these are very much linked to piBKTgttDPM-00546-00127183-00127454 the those um volunteer voluntary piBKTgttDPM-00547-00127455-00127663 motivations that we talked about earlier piBKTgttDPM-00548-00127664-00127966 because if you volunteer piBKTgttDPM-00549-00127967-00128127 one of the values that you gain from piBKTgttDPM-00550-00128128-00128447 that for example is that you can piBKTgttDPM-00551-00128448-00128727 create more social life that you can piBKTgttDPM-00552-00128728-00129086 enhance your curriculum your uh your cv piBKTgttDPM-00553-00129088-00129223 that you can piBKTgttDPM-00554-00129224-00129495 i don't know do things for your career piBKTgttDPM-00555-00129496-00129807 so i think those are very important piBKTgttDPM-00556-00129808-00130054 individual values piBKTgttDPM-00557-00130055-00130383 but of course since most of you are piBKTgttDPM-00558-00130383-00130678 students i also wanted to focus a little piBKTgttDPM-00559-00130679-00130943 bit on individual piBKTgttDPM-00560-00130944-00131423 student volunteer value piBKTgttDPM-00561-00131424-00131751 and just very very quickly piBKTgttDPM-00562-00131752-00131951 because you are all volunteers piBKTgttDPM-00563-00131952-00132102 can you just shout at me some of the piBKTgttDPM-00564-00132103-00132366 values that that you create for yourself piBKTgttDPM-00565-00132367-00132790 when you're volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00566-00132791-00133007 friends piBKTgttDPM-00567-00133008-00133083 nice piBKTgttDPM-00568-00133084-00133431 one other stuff piBKTgttDPM-00569-00133432-00133839 experiences piBKTgttDPM-00570-00133840-00134239 that's it piBKTgttDPM-00571-00134240-00134678 purpose piBKTgttDPM-00572-00134679-00135183 nice one sense of giving back piBKTgttDPM-00573-00135184-00135278 cv piBKTgttDPM-00574-00135279-00135566 yeah i mean it's an important one piBKTgttDPM-00575-00135567-00135647 so piBKTgttDPM-00576-00135648-00135790 here are piBKTgttDPM-00577-00135791-00136143 some specific student values that were piBKTgttDPM-00578-00136144-00136263 found piBKTgttDPM-00579-00136264-00136463 in volunteering research so it's piBKTgttDPM-00580-00136464-00136711 basically the things that you already piBKTgttDPM-00581-00136712-00136854 oh you didn't really shout at me you piBKTgttDPM-00582-00136855-00137166 told me so but that's kind of nice piBKTgttDPM-00583-00137167-00137407 so it's it's a lot based on skill piBKTgttDPM-00584-00137408-00137623 development personal growth things that piBKTgttDPM-00585-00137624-00137911 you can add to your cv piBKTgttDPM-00586-00137912-00138183 but also social awareness building piBKTgttDPM-00587-00138184-00138359 and of course piBKTgttDPM-00588-00138360-00138623 always altruism and those kinds of piBKTgttDPM-00589-00138624-00138975 values piBKTgttDPM-00590-00138976-00139135 that was it for me piBKTgttDPM-00591-00139136-00139719 thank you piBKTgttDPM-00592-00139720-00139943 great thank you very much felina um we piBKTgttDPM-00593-00139944-00140431 have room for one or two questions piBKTgttDPM-00594-00140432-00140702 as i said you being active is an piBKTgttDPM-00595-00140703-00140895 important part for the content of this piBKTgttDPM-00596-00140896-00141166 program piBKTgttDPM-00597-00141167-00141247 yeah piBKTgttDPM-00598-00141248-00141839 in the back just a second piBKTgttDPM-00599-00141840-00142031 let's do it like this yeah so i saw the piBKTgttDPM-00600-00142032-00142271 last uh slide there were piBKTgttDPM-00601-00142272-00142399 some piBKTgttDPM-00602-00142400-00142623 things but you said there's also piBKTgttDPM-00603-00142624-00142902 altruism altruism um because that's not piBKTgttDPM-00604-00142903-00143159 on the slide so is there also something piBKTgttDPM-00605-00143160-00143359 like pure helping piBKTgttDPM-00606-00143360-00143535 somebody else or piBKTgttDPM-00607-00143536-00144263 or isn't that on the list piBKTgttDPM-00608-00144264-00144495 so this is a difficult question for me piBKTgttDPM-00609-00144496-00144614 to answer piBKTgttDPM-00610-00144615-00144751 um because piBKTgttDPM-00611-00144752-00145023 yes in research this does always come up piBKTgttDPM-00612-00145024-00145319 but it's also always questioned if pure piBKTgttDPM-00613-00145320-00145735 altruism is actually a thing piBKTgttDPM-00614-00145736-00145871 yeah because and i'm not gonna give the piBKTgttDPM-00615-00145872-00146087 answer to that no this just seems like piBKTgttDPM-00616-00146088-00146343 some somebody is doing this for himself piBKTgttDPM-00617-00146344-00146566 or herself right yeah this list okay piBKTgttDPM-00618-00146567-00146799 it's it's never just for themselves piBKTgttDPM-00619-00146800-00146959 though piBKTgttDPM-00620-00146960-00147383 it's it's always a combination of this piBKTgttDPM-00621-00147384-00147575 with helping others piBKTgttDPM-00622-00147576-00147799 but if we're looking at individual piBKTgttDPM-00623-00147800-00147959 volunteer value piBKTgttDPM-00624-00147960-00148095 then yeah piBKTgttDPM-00625-00148096-00148483 okay thank you piBKTgttDPM-00626-00148484-00149190 yeah first question here oh yeah piBKTgttDPM-00627-00149191-00149319 thanks piBKTgttDPM-00628-00149320-00149526 could you tell us why you decided to piBKTgttDPM-00629-00149527-00150014 research this or put your career to this piBKTgttDPM-00630-00150015-00150207 um piBKTgttDPM-00631-00150208-00150431 if i'm going to be 100 honest i kind of piBKTgttDPM-00632-00150432-00150566 rolled into it piBKTgttDPM-00633-00150567-00150687 um piBKTgttDPM-00634-00150688-00150854 i piBKTgttDPM-00635-00150855-00151095 studied business administration piBKTgttDPM-00636-00151096-00151263 which you maybe wouldn't really connect piBKTgttDPM-00637-00151264-00151463 to this topic piBKTgttDPM-00638-00151464-00151575 but piBKTgttDPM-00639-00151576-00151919 i did a really fun minor in rotterdam piBKTgttDPM-00640-00151920-00152039 about piBKTgttDPM-00641-00152040-00152271 social entrepreneurship and consultancy piBKTgttDPM-00642-00152272-00152399 and then piBKTgttDPM-00643-00152400-00152583 the professor was a professor in piBKTgttDPM-00644-00152584-00152823 philanthropy and volunteering and i piBKTgttDPM-00645-00152824-00152999 started as a research assistant for him piBKTgttDPM-00646-00153000-00153166 after that piBKTgttDPM-00647-00153167-00153319 and we started doing some really cool piBKTgttDPM-00648-00153320-00153543 projects on volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00649-00153544-00154083 and then i stayed because i really liked piBKTgttDPM-00650-00154084-00154559 it thank you um so do you focus on um piBKTgttDPM-00651-00154560-00154790 the individual value or what what piBKTgttDPM-00652-00154791-00155039 exactly does your research focus on or piBKTgttDPM-00653-00155040-00155263 specify in piBKTgttDPM-00654-00155264-00155607 right now in my research i'm piBKTgttDPM-00655-00155608-00155735 focusing piBKTgttDPM-00656-00155736-00155895 on all of it piBKTgttDPM-00657-00155896-00156151 which sounds a bit broad but um piBKTgttDPM-00658-00156152-00156271 uh piBKTgttDPM-00659-00156272-00156599 yeah i'm now doing a literature review piBKTgttDPM-00660-00156600-00156926 to to see really systemically what has piBKTgttDPM-00661-00156927-00157199 the systematically has been the research piBKTgttDPM-00662-00157200-00157407 about this in the past piBKTgttDPM-00663-00157408-00157775 um so there we focus on individual piBKTgttDPM-00664-00157776-00158078 volunteer value organizational value piBKTgttDPM-00665-00158079-00158447 beneficiary value societal value all of piBKTgttDPM-00666-00158448-00158654 all of the values piBKTgttDPM-00667-00158655-00158902 yeah but i i find piBKTgttDPM-00668-00158903-00159135 individual value may be the least piBKTgttDPM-00669-00159136-00159623 interesting to be honest piBKTgttDPM-00670-00159624-00159831 for me value for beneficiaries and the piBKTgttDPM-00671-00159832-00159990 nonprofit organizations is most piBKTgttDPM-00672-00159991-00160143 interesting piBKTgttDPM-00673-00160144-00160807 because i think it's most important piBKTgttDPM-00674-00160808-00160999 i'm afraid we have to move on so thank piBKTgttDPM-00675-00161000-00161414 you once again fellaine piBKTgttDPM-00676-00161415-00161647 and hold on to those questions we may piBKTgttDPM-00677-00161648-00161902 come back to them later um sophie gave piBKTgttDPM-00678-00161903-00162078 us a management perspective we are now piBKTgttDPM-00679-00162079-00162254 going to switch to a more philosopher's piBKTgttDPM-00680-00162255-00162375 perspective piBKTgttDPM-00681-00162376-00162535 maybe that will also help in addressing piBKTgttDPM-00682-00162536-00162678 the first question piBKTgttDPM-00683-00162679-00162831 so our next speaker is willem van der piBKTgttDPM-00684-00162832-00163031 klook piBKTgttDPM-00685-00163032-00163126 he piBKTgttDPM-00686-00163127-00163343 did his phd in economics and philosophy piBKTgttDPM-00687-00163344-00163519 at erasmus university so we have a piBKTgttDPM-00688-00163520-00163726 connection there apparently piBKTgttDPM-00689-00163727-00163926 but at the moment he teaches piBKTgttDPM-00690-00163927-00164151 philosophy here at our university and piBKTgttDPM-00691-00164152-00164343 conducts research among others to the piBKTgttDPM-00692-00164344-00164526 value of work and he will provide us piBKTgttDPM-00693-00164527-00164695 with a more philosophical and ethical piBKTgttDPM-00694-00164696-00164975 perspective on altruism and volunteering piBKTgttDPM-00695-00164976-00165214 so willem without further ado piBKTgttDPM-00696-00165215-00165614 please give a hand to him and good luck piBKTgttDPM-00697-00165615-00165759 hello hello piBKTgttDPM-00698-00165760-00165935 can you can you hear me is this this is piBKTgttDPM-00699-00165936-00166102 okay piBKTgttDPM-00700-00166103-00166463 okay i can have the clicker piBKTgttDPM-00701-00166464-00166599 thank you thank you so much i i think piBKTgttDPM-00702-00166600-00166766 this is really great that so many of you piBKTgttDPM-00703-00166767-00166943 are coming to this event about altruism piBKTgttDPM-00704-00166944-00167143 and i yeah because i think altruism is piBKTgttDPM-00705-00167144-00167351 really it's really important and i and i piBKTgttDPM-00706-00167352-00167526 also agree that maybe piBKTgttDPM-00707-00167527-00167671 so when people talk about altruism it's piBKTgttDPM-00708-00167672-00167854 often people often talk about this this piBKTgttDPM-00709-00167855-00168111 idea about whether or not pure altruism piBKTgttDPM-00710-00168112-00168302 could exist but i i don't think that's piBKTgttDPM-00711-00168303-00168383 very piBKTgttDPM-00712-00168384-00168590 interesting because i think there's many piBKTgttDPM-00713-00168591-00168743 there's we do things for other people piBKTgttDPM-00714-00168744-00168871 all the time right and i think that's piBKTgttDPM-00715-00168872-00169031 that's that's really great it's one of piBKTgttDPM-00716-00169032-00169287 the most important things uh i think we piBKTgttDPM-00717-00169288-00169559 we can do but i want to start today with piBKTgttDPM-00718-00169560-00169719 a little bit of a of a personal story piBKTgttDPM-00719-00169720-00169935 and i hope there's no hypochondriacs in piBKTgttDPM-00720-00169936-00170095 here because the story it's a personal piBKTgttDPM-00721-00170096-00170207 story it's something that happened to me piBKTgttDPM-00722-00170208-00170414 but it's it's a little it's not a great piBKTgttDPM-00723-00170415-00170583 story piBKTgttDPM-00724-00170584-00170711 uh piBKTgttDPM-00725-00170712-00170854 and it's something that happened to me piBKTgttDPM-00726-00170855-00171207 in in in may 2020 um piBKTgttDPM-00727-00171208-00171359 and i and i think piBKTgttDPM-00728-00171360-00171519 um piBKTgttDPM-00729-00171520-00171695 yeah so so maybe piBKTgttDPM-00730-00171696-00171919 this was this was roughly seven or eight piBKTgttDPM-00731-00171920-00172159 weeks into the pandemic and by this time piBKTgttDPM-00732-00172160-00172351 i think i i got coveted while teaching piBKTgttDPM-00733-00172352-00172447 in dover piBKTgttDPM-00734-00172448-00172751 right after carnaval in 2020 and i was piBKTgttDPM-00735-00172752-00172887 recovering from this and i wasn't piBKTgttDPM-00736-00172888-00172999 feeling all piBKTgttDPM-00737-00173000-00173238 too well but at this point i had no idea piBKTgttDPM-00738-00173239-00173502 that anything at all could be seriously piBKTgttDPM-00739-00173503-00173654 going wrong with me piBKTgttDPM-00740-00173655-00173823 so it was a friday afternoon and i piBKTgttDPM-00741-00173824-00173919 started piBKTgttDPM-00742-00173920-00174151 uh i wanted to go for a jog as i would piBKTgttDPM-00743-00174152-00174343 sometimes sometimes do piBKTgttDPM-00744-00174344-00174559 um and after that i don't remember piBKTgttDPM-00745-00174560-00174702 anything anymore what i do remember is piBKTgttDPM-00746-00174703-00174926 that i woke up in the hospital piBKTgttDPM-00747-00174927-00175311 and there were tubes in my in in piBKTgttDPM-00748-00175312-00175519 in my in my nostrils and piBKTgttDPM-00749-00175520-00175623 um piBKTgttDPM-00750-00175624-00175735 i i piBKTgttDPM-00751-00175736-00175854 was learning that i had been piBKTgttDPM-00752-00175855-00175983 resuscitated piBKTgttDPM-00753-00175984-00176231 because apparently while jogging piBKTgttDPM-00754-00176232-00176543 i had i felt i'd fallen piBKTgttDPM-00755-00176544-00176735 somebody had seen this but right after piBKTgttDPM-00756-00176736-00176887 that moment the reason i had fallen was piBKTgttDPM-00757-00176888-00176990 because i was piBKTgttDPM-00758-00176991-00177183 going for a cardiac arrest piBKTgttDPM-00759-00177184-00177390 and i didn't so i didn't know anything piBKTgttDPM-00760-00177391-00177535 would be wrong with me but as it turned piBKTgttDPM-00761-00177536-00177751 out something was really quite wrong piBKTgttDPM-00762-00177752-00178159 with me i had a genetic heart condition piBKTgttDPM-00763-00178160-00178319 and there's a lot known about this heart piBKTgttDPM-00764-00178320-00178471 condition and in fact a lot has been piBKTgttDPM-00765-00178472-00178638 developed we have learned a lot about piBKTgttDPM-00766-00178639-00178814 this this heart condition and and in piBKTgttDPM-00767-00178815-00178983 fact one of the organizations that that piBKTgttDPM-00768-00178984-00179207 does a lot for this is the dutch heart piBKTgttDPM-00769-00179208-00179463 sifting for instance and so the dutch piBKTgttDPM-00770-00179464-00179695 hearts lifting the heart funds or piBKTgttDPM-00771-00179696-00179926 something along those lines is piBKTgttDPM-00772-00179927-00180087 it's doing a lot of great work and and piBKTgttDPM-00773-00180088-00180319 one of the things is that it saves lives piBKTgttDPM-00774-00180320-00180678 by by putting aed's defibrillators piBKTgttDPM-00775-00180679-00180823 in different spots so for instance if piBKTgttDPM-00776-00180824-00180902 you're piBKTgttDPM-00777-00180903-00181183 there there's one that's very visible piBKTgttDPM-00778-00181184-00181390 um at the tilburg university train piBKTgttDPM-00779-00181391-00181519 station if you're going into the piBKTgttDPM-00780-00181520-00181766 direction of breda piBKTgttDPM-00781-00181767-00182007 um and these things save lives so i piBKTgttDPM-00782-00182008-00182214 think they cost about 1500 euros or piBKTgttDPM-00783-00182215-00182319 something but piBKTgttDPM-00784-00182320-00182423 for every piBKTgttDPM-00785-00182424-00182566 um piBKTgttDPM-00786-00182567-00182726 15 or so piBKTgttDPM-00787-00182727-00182990 uh eventually one life will be will be piBKTgttDPM-00788-00182991-00183111 saved piBKTgttDPM-00789-00183112-00183302 and and it's due to things like this piBKTgttDPM-00790-00183303-00183423 that people piBKTgttDPM-00791-00183424-00183775 like me uh can can live to tell a story piBKTgttDPM-00792-00183776-00184047 so in my case i was i was i was uh i was piBKTgttDPM-00793-00184048-00184207 i was lucky enough that i was running piBKTgttDPM-00794-00184208-00184438 close to the erasmus university but many piBKTgttDPM-00795-00184439-00184726 people are saved through this way piBKTgttDPM-00796-00184727-00184902 and i think so the dutch heart thing is piBKTgttDPM-00797-00184903-00185102 also an organization that has piBKTgttDPM-00798-00185103-00185238 yeah like i said it does a lot of great piBKTgttDPM-00799-00185239-00185454 work but in it and it collects a fair piBKTgttDPM-00800-00185455-00185702 amount of donation money piBKTgttDPM-00801-00185703-00185823 but i want to talk a little bit about piBKTgttDPM-00802-00185824-00186038 donation money and the way how we how we piBKTgttDPM-00803-00186039-00186278 donate and so this is not so much to me piBKTgttDPM-00804-00186279-00186375 about volunteering but i think piBKTgttDPM-00805-00186376-00186559 volunteering also hasn't isn't important piBKTgttDPM-00806-00186560-00186790 so it's applicable to volunteering in an piBKTgttDPM-00807-00186791-00186999 important sense i think piBKTgttDPM-00808-00187000-00187295 so what happens in practice is that um a piBKTgttDPM-00809-00187296-00187454 lot of people give piBKTgttDPM-00810-00187455-00187726 exactly to those to those piBKTgttDPM-00811-00187727-00187926 charities um that they have some piBKTgttDPM-00812-00187927-00188102 emotional connection to piBKTgttDPM-00813-00188103-00188311 so i also noticed this in piBKTgttDPM-00814-00188312-00188487 people who who know me well right like piBKTgttDPM-00815-00188488-00188695 they had they also felt like oh is there piBKTgttDPM-00816-00188696-00188863 something we can do can we give can we piBKTgttDPM-00817-00188864-00189038 give to to this piBKTgttDPM-00818-00189039-00189302 this fun perhaps piBKTgttDPM-00819-00189303-00189447 and if you look at piBKTgttDPM-00820-00189448-00189647 the idea what this kind of like it looks piBKTgttDPM-00821-00189648-00189871 uh looks like in practice so if you look piBKTgttDPM-00822-00189872-00190087 at what do people give to how do people piBKTgttDPM-00823-00190088-00190238 donate in the netherlands so these are piBKTgttDPM-00824-00190239-00190311 the piBKTgttDPM-00825-00190312-00190590 the biggest the biggest funds um that piBKTgttDPM-00826-00190591-00190799 people donate to and the biggest ones so piBKTgttDPM-00827-00190800-00190990 the very biggest one is is the piBKTgttDPM-00828-00190991-00191087 by far piBKTgttDPM-00829-00191088-00191231 it's a cancer piBKTgttDPM-00830-00191232-00191335 fund that piBKTgttDPM-00831-00191336-00191495 that does this type of thing exactly for piBKTgttDPM-00832-00191496-00191631 cancer and i think it's easy to piBKTgttDPM-00833-00191632-00191831 understand why right because many of us piBKTgttDPM-00834-00191832-00192166 have lost loved ones way too early piBKTgttDPM-00835-00192167-00192431 um to cancer and cancer is a tragic piBKTgttDPM-00836-00192432-00192550 disease and piBKTgttDPM-00837-00192551-00192726 it's in many ways of course really good piBKTgttDPM-00838-00192727-00192990 that people do that piBKTgttDPM-00839-00192991-00193159 so there's a couple of organizations piBKTgttDPM-00840-00193160-00193478 also that do work abroad so often piBKTgttDPM-00841-00193479-00193743 to fulfill direct needs of things that piBKTgttDPM-00842-00193744-00193950 we see on television for instance so piBKTgttDPM-00843-00193951-00194254 doctors without borders also unicef piBKTgttDPM-00844-00194255-00194471 red cross but there's the heart fund as piBKTgttDPM-00845-00194472-00194596 well piBKTgttDPM-00846-00194597-00194711 [Music] piBKTgttDPM-00847-00194712-00194871 an organization that takes care of the piBKTgttDPM-00848-00194872-00195071 national parks in the netherlands piBKTgttDPM-00849-00195072-00195559 um and the worldwide uh fund as well piBKTgttDPM-00850-00195560-00195743 so those are the type of organisms and i piBKTgttDPM-00851-00195744-00195878 think people often piBKTgttDPM-00852-00195879-00196078 do altruism piBKTgttDPM-00853-00196079-00196238 in this way they follow their heart and piBKTgttDPM-00854-00196239-00196487 i think in many ways of course that piBKTgttDPM-00855-00196488-00196678 that's a good thing right people people piBKTgttDPM-00856-00196679-00196775 people piBKTgttDPM-00857-00196776-00196926 want to do the right thing they do what piBKTgttDPM-00858-00196927-00197087 they what they do what they what they piBKTgttDPM-00859-00197088-00197254 what feels right piBKTgttDPM-00860-00197255-00197407 and it turns out that the result is also piBKTgttDPM-00861-00197408-00197535 great there's a lot of piBKTgttDPM-00862-00197536-00197726 money available now that goes to things piBKTgttDPM-00863-00197727-00197895 that are that do piBKTgttDPM-00864-00197896-00198126 do good things piBKTgttDPM-00865-00198127-00198295 so if you talk about altruism seltourism piBKTgttDPM-00866-00198296-00198438 is something along the lines of doing piBKTgttDPM-00867-00198439-00198623 something for the benefit of of others piBKTgttDPM-00868-00198624-00198750 right piBKTgttDPM-00869-00198751-00198902 but i think if we think about this about piBKTgttDPM-00870-00198903-00199063 the fact that we also want to benefit piBKTgttDPM-00871-00199064-00199271 others piBKTgttDPM-00872-00199272-00199390 we should also think a little bit piBKTgttDPM-00873-00199391-00199559 critically about the way how we do it piBKTgttDPM-00874-00199560-00199726 and whether piBKTgttDPM-00875-00199727-00199919 doing this emotionally so doing this piBKTgttDPM-00876-00199920-00200014 through piBKTgttDPM-00877-00200015-00200183 what feels right piBKTgttDPM-00878-00200184-00200359 is always the best way piBKTgttDPM-00879-00200360-00200511 to do that piBKTgttDPM-00880-00200512-00200735 so let me first start off by outlining piBKTgttDPM-00881-00200736-00200902 just two i think ethical principles that piBKTgttDPM-00882-00200903-00201095 almost i think everybody will piBKTgttDPM-00883-00201096-00201295 accept and the first one is that piBKTgttDPM-00884-00201296-00201463 people's lives in the world are equally piBKTgttDPM-00885-00201464-00201638 valuable right so it doesn't matter piBKTgttDPM-00886-00201639-00201911 where you're born it's always a tragedy piBKTgttDPM-00887-00201912-00202063 when something terrible happens to you piBKTgttDPM-00888-00202064-00202238 so if you die piBKTgttDPM-00889-00202239-00202454 when you're 30 piBKTgttDPM-00890-00202455-00202638 like i always did that's that's that's a piBKTgttDPM-00891-00202639-00202790 really bad thing that almost happened to piBKTgttDPM-00892-00202791-00202878 me piBKTgttDPM-00893-00202879-00203071 um but it's of course also a really bad piBKTgttDPM-00894-00203072-00203207 thing if that happens to somebody who piBKTgttDPM-00895-00203208-00203366 lives somewhere else it's in general piBKTgttDPM-00896-00203367-00203519 just a bad thing and piBKTgttDPM-00897-00203520-00203743 and we shouldn't value the lives of some piBKTgttDPM-00898-00203744-00203935 people over others piBKTgttDPM-00899-00203936-00204078 i think most people would agree with piBKTgttDPM-00900-00204079-00204214 that right especially if we talk about piBKTgttDPM-00901-00204215-00204399 altruism it seems to go piBKTgttDPM-00902-00204400-00204663 very strongly against that idea piBKTgttDPM-00903-00204664-00204894 and another one is is is this one so piBKTgttDPM-00904-00204896-00204966 that piBKTgttDPM-00905-00204967-00205182 the people who are maybe the worst off piBKTgttDPM-00906-00205183-00205479 we have some reason to prioritize i i'm piBKTgttDPM-00907-00205480-00205606 curious what you think about this but it piBKTgttDPM-00908-00205607-00205734 seems to be that piBKTgttDPM-00909-00205735-00206055 it seems to me that that people who are piBKTgttDPM-00910-00206056-00206182 or were piBKTgttDPM-00911-00206183-00206342 particularly struggling in life for the piBKTgttDPM-00912-00206344-00206455 people who piBKTgttDPM-00913-00206456-00206662 we have most reason piBKTgttDPM-00914-00206663-00207062 to also help if we have the opportunity piBKTgttDPM-00915-00207063-00207238 but that also gives us piBKTgttDPM-00916-00207239-00207446 if we if we take these ideas seriously piBKTgttDPM-00917-00207448-00207631 then we sometimes want to so especially piBKTgttDPM-00918-00207632-00207766 in the context of giving right so when piBKTgttDPM-00919-00207767-00207942 we when we donate money we want to do piBKTgttDPM-00920-00207944-00208214 something that's that's good piBKTgttDPM-00921-00208215-00208375 and we also abide by these two piBKTgttDPM-00922-00208376-00208510 principles piBKTgttDPM-00923-00208511-00208751 but some of the results of of a strategy piBKTgttDPM-00924-00208752-00208934 of just giving piBKTgttDPM-00925-00208935-00209062 emotionally piBKTgttDPM-00926-00209063-00209182 um piBKTgttDPM-00927-00209183-00209351 don't always seem to piBKTgttDPM-00928-00209352-00209558 show that very well piBKTgttDPM-00929-00209559-00209679 and there are some really hard facts piBKTgttDPM-00930-00209680-00209839 that i'm going to show and some people piBKTgttDPM-00931-00209840-00210031 might not like that but take for piBKTgttDPM-00932-00210032-00210263 instance the idea of so forgiving for piBKTgttDPM-00933-00210264-00210510 seeing giving money to an organization piBKTgttDPM-00934-00210511-00210727 that's fun seeing eye dogs right i think piBKTgttDPM-00935-00210728-00210927 nobody will here will disagree that piBKTgttDPM-00936-00210928-00211094 seeing eye dogs are a really great thing piBKTgttDPM-00937-00211096-00211334 they're a great help to people who are piBKTgttDPM-00938-00211335-00211439 where piBKTgttDPM-00939-00211440-00211558 yeah like piBKTgttDPM-00940-00211559-00211710 are suffering for no fault of their own piBKTgttDPM-00941-00211711-00211831 who can't see piBKTgttDPM-00942-00211832-00212023 and can maneuver themselves sometimes piBKTgttDPM-00943-00212023-00212167 for no fall of their own and dogs can piBKTgttDPM-00944-00212167-00212303 really help with this piBKTgttDPM-00945-00212304-00212503 but it costs a fair amount of money to piBKTgttDPM-00946-00212504-00212758 do that piBKTgttDPM-00947-00212759-00212934 there's also piBKTgttDPM-00948-00212935-00213142 a way how you can help blind people and piBKTgttDPM-00949-00213144-00213375 so you can there's a an infectious piBKTgttDPM-00950-00213376-00213494 disease called piBKTgttDPM-00951-00213496-00213719 trachoma i also have to look at how you piBKTgttDPM-00952-00213719-00213879 pronounce it because you never really piBKTgttDPM-00953-00213880-00214046 hear about this piBKTgttDPM-00954-00214048-00214191 and it's something that causes blindness piBKTgttDPM-00955-00214192-00214334 in developing countries it's one of the piBKTgttDPM-00956-00214335-00214679 most um common preventable piBKTgttDPM-00957-00214680-00214991 ways that in which people get piBKTgttDPM-00958-00214992-00215158 get blind piBKTgttDPM-00959-00215159-00215455 um but the surgery that people can do piBKTgttDPM-00960-00215456-00215639 that prevents blindness piBKTgttDPM-00961-00215640-00215887 only costs about 20 euros maybe piBKTgttDPM-00962-00215888-00216094 a little bit more but something along piBKTgttDPM-00963-00216096-00216398 those something along those lines piBKTgttDPM-00964-00216400-00216598 but still there is a lot of so in both piBKTgttDPM-00965-00216600-00216758 cases right there is not enough money piBKTgttDPM-00966-00216759-00216951 available so there is not enough money piBKTgttDPM-00967-00216952-00217103 available to give everybody a seeing eye piBKTgttDPM-00968-00217104-00217334 dog who might benefit from one but the piBKTgttDPM-00969-00217335-00217639 same goes for the dracoma surgery so and piBKTgttDPM-00970-00217640-00217742 and i think piBKTgttDPM-00971-00217744-00217879 when we piBKTgttDPM-00972-00217880-00218055 i think what strikes me with with these piBKTgttDPM-00973-00218056-00218151 kinds of things is that there's piBKTgttDPM-00974-00218152-00218303 something kind of odd about the fact piBKTgttDPM-00975-00218304-00218463 that if we want to do something good piBKTgttDPM-00976-00218464-00218567 that way piBKTgttDPM-00977-00218567-00218703 we then choose piBKTgttDPM-00978-00218704-00218871 this option piBKTgttDPM-00979-00218871-00219023 because with the same amount of money piBKTgttDPM-00980-00219023-00219167 you can actually help piBKTgttDPM-00981-00219167-00219382 1500 more people piBKTgttDPM-00982-00219383-00219567 and remember we thought that at least piBKTgttDPM-00983-00219567-00219734 there's an ethical type of baseline piBKTgttDPM-00984-00219735-00219863 right we think that every life is piBKTgttDPM-00985-00219864-00220079 equally valuable so blindness is equally piBKTgttDPM-00986-00220080-00220327 bad for for everyone piBKTgttDPM-00987-00220328-00220423 and then piBKTgttDPM-00988-00220423-00220582 but then it seems that you can only piBKTgttDPM-00989-00220583-00220806 justify piBKTgttDPM-00990-00220807-00220958 if you're if you're faced with this piBKTgttDPM-00991-00220959-00221151 choice right you would you would only it piBKTgttDPM-00992-00221152-00221319 seems that you can only justify making piBKTgttDPM-00993-00221319-00221479 choices like this if you piBKTgttDPM-00994-00221480-00221663 if you think that somehow piBKTgttDPM-00995-00221664-00221958 the people who are suffering piBKTgttDPM-00996-00221959-00222142 in in countries where people get seeing piBKTgttDPM-00997-00222144-00222334 eye dogs are somehow more important piBKTgttDPM-00998-00222335-00222679 which i think we don't piBKTgttDPM-00999-00222680-00222894 and in fact you can not only merely help piBKTgttDPM-01000-00222896-00223063 them deal with their blindness but you piBKTgttDPM-01001-00223064-00223327 can actually prevent it piBKTgttDPM-01002-00223328-00223471 but of course the problem is that a lot piBKTgttDPM-01003-00223471-00223719 of it happens in countries that we don't piBKTgttDPM-01004-00223719-00223863 really have a particular emotional piBKTgttDPM-01005-00223864-00224158 connection to at least not as direct as piBKTgttDPM-01006-00224159-00224319 losing a family member or something piBKTgttDPM-01007-00224319-00224551 happening to yourself piBKTgttDPM-01008-00224552-00224734 dracoma doesn't seem to be a threat to piBKTgttDPM-01009-00224735-00224815 us piBKTgttDPM-01010-00224816-00225063 or to our loved ones piBKTgttDPM-01011-00225064-00225223 and if you and if you follow the piBKTgttDPM-01012-00225223-00225398 strategy of well piBKTgttDPM-01013-00225400-00225551 i'm gonna kind of like do what feels piBKTgttDPM-01014-00225552-00225839 right to me then this is i think piBKTgttDPM-01015-00225840-00226110 what happens we we will not really fund piBKTgttDPM-01016-00226111-00226255 these types of piBKTgttDPM-01017-00226256-00226446 diseases that play a role here piBKTgttDPM-01018-00226448-00226879 but we will fund other things piBKTgttDPM-01019-00226880-00226975 all right piBKTgttDPM-01020-00226976-00227175 so remember this is kind of if we take piBKTgttDPM-01021-00227176-00227382 these ideas seriously it seems that piBKTgttDPM-01022-00227383-00227534 we're almost not being really consistent piBKTgttDPM-01023-00227535-00227839 with ourselves piBKTgttDPM-01024-00227840-00227982 because we think that all lives are piBKTgttDPM-01025-00227983-00228287 equally viable and in fact if anything piBKTgttDPM-01026-00228288-00228446 we should perhaps prioritize piBKTgttDPM-01027-00228448-00228631 those people who are already piBKTgttDPM-01028-00228632-00228775 suffering piBKTgttDPM-01029-00228776-00228910 more than us piBKTgttDPM-01030-00228911-00229071 and those are typically not people who piBKTgttDPM-01031-00229071-00229246 live in in wealthy countries and so piBKTgttDPM-01032-00229248-00229398 there's there's of course some rationale piBKTgttDPM-01033-00229400-00229606 today so why does follow your heart why piBKTgttDPM-01034-00229607-00229767 will it not always piBKTgttDPM-01035-00229767-00230031 do the most good so people in wealthy piBKTgttDPM-01036-00230032-00230175 countries are typically emotionally piBKTgttDPM-01037-00230176-00230351 connected to people who are so other piBKTgttDPM-01038-00230352-00230671 people in wealthy countries who are piBKTgttDPM-01039-00230671-00230863 and so wealthy nations have already more piBKTgttDPM-01040-00230864-00231015 funds at their disposal right so there piBKTgttDPM-01041-00231016-00231271 is already a lot more money here and piBKTgttDPM-01042-00231271-00231382 um piBKTgttDPM-01043-00231383-00231615 people in poorer countries also face piBKTgttDPM-01044-00231616-00231839 face more more problems piBKTgttDPM-01045-00231840-00232039 so it makes sense that then piBKTgttDPM-01046-00232040-00232151 in the end piBKTgttDPM-01047-00232152-00232310 helping people in poorer countries is piBKTgttDPM-01048-00232311-00232423 going to be piBKTgttDPM-01049-00232423-00232598 that's cheaper you can do you can do piBKTgttDPM-01050-00232600-00232710 more good piBKTgttDPM-01051-00232711-00232998 with the same amount of money piBKTgttDPM-01052-00233000-00233134 now people tend to find this very piBKTgttDPM-01053-00233135-00233279 uncomfortable right so they're thinking piBKTgttDPM-01054-00233280-00233439 about these types of questions and i piBKTgttDPM-01055-00233440-00233639 think there's good reason to feel a piBKTgttDPM-01056-00233640-00233798 little bit uncomfortable sometimes about piBKTgttDPM-01057-00233800-00233998 these things right because we don't want piBKTgttDPM-01058-00234000-00234198 to weigh people we don't want to say we piBKTgttDPM-01059-00234200-00234358 think all lives are equally valuable and piBKTgttDPM-01060-00234359-00234558 then it seems that when i'm comparing piBKTgttDPM-01061-00234559-00234742 them perhaps piBKTgttDPM-01062-00234744-00234910 i'm not treating them piBKTgttDPM-01063-00234911-00235110 so i actually seem to be piBKTgttDPM-01064-00235111-00235334 kind of pointing out seem to be almost piBKTgttDPM-01065-00235335-00235439 saying that piBKTgttDPM-01066-00235440-00235575 we should help some people rather than piBKTgttDPM-01067-00235576-00235727 others and that seems to be comparing piBKTgttDPM-01068-00235728-00235951 them but in fact our implied choice piBKTgttDPM-01069-00235952-00236134 right so if we if we just do what feels piBKTgttDPM-01070-00236135-00236231 right piBKTgttDPM-01071-00236232-00236406 our implied choice piBKTgttDPM-01072-00236407-00236694 will actually kind of result in piBKTgttDPM-01073-00236696-00236903 in unfairness right so it will result in piBKTgttDPM-01074-00236904-00237031 in us piBKTgttDPM-01075-00237032-00237294 our actions valuing people who are doing piBKTgttDPM-01076-00237296-00237519 pretty poorly um piBKTgttDPM-01077-00237519-00237694 as valuing their issues as less piBKTgttDPM-01078-00237696-00237871 important piBKTgttDPM-01079-00237871-00237998 and i think of course one of the things piBKTgttDPM-01080-00238000-00238142 that one of the reasons i think why this piBKTgttDPM-01081-00238144-00238310 is uncomfortable is that we think that piBKTgttDPM-01082-00238311-00238471 altruism piBKTgttDPM-01083-00238471-00238663 is not something that everybody piBKTgttDPM-01084-00238664-00238871 necessarily has to do all the time right piBKTgttDPM-01085-00238871-00239063 and maybe some people disagree but a lot piBKTgttDPM-01086-00239064-00239175 of people think well altruism is piBKTgttDPM-01087-00239176-00239319 something that ends up that philosophers piBKTgttDPM-01088-00239319-00239591 call superrogatory and superogrates very piBKTgttDPM-01089-00239592-00239710 essentially means it's something that piBKTgttDPM-01090-00239711-00239871 goes beyond the call of duty there's piBKTgttDPM-01091-00239871-00240039 certainly things like when piBKTgttDPM-01092-00240040-00240239 somebody here would faint we all have a piBKTgttDPM-01093-00240240-00240503 clear duty to help that person piBKTgttDPM-01094-00240504-00240679 but we don't have the same type of duty piBKTgttDPM-01095-00240680-00240839 maybe to piBKTgttDPM-01096-00240840-00241055 i don't know donate a lot of money piBKTgttDPM-01097-00241056-00241263 now a few honest it might be a bit piBKTgttDPM-01098-00241264-00241375 different some people think that piBKTgttDPM-01099-00241376-00241519 actually we do have some beauty but a piBKTgttDPM-01100-00241519-00241623 lot of people think well it's actually piBKTgttDPM-01101-00241623-00241839 something that it's not necessary to do piBKTgttDPM-01102-00241840-00241967 but it's something that's really good to piBKTgttDPM-01103-00241967-00242182 do something that's better to do than piBKTgttDPM-01104-00242183-00242575 than not to do so why then criticize it piBKTgttDPM-01105-00242576-00242791 right surely like i talked about how piBKTgttDPM-01106-00242792-00242975 great the work of the heart the hearts piBKTgttDPM-01107-00242976-00243158 lifting in the netherlands how great piBKTgttDPM-01108-00243159-00243294 that is and i think it is really great piBKTgttDPM-01109-00243296-00243479 and it saves lives so why would you piBKTgttDPM-01110-00243480-00243671 criticize and i don't i don't really piBKTgttDPM-01111-00243671-00243823 want to criticize that at all but i do piBKTgttDPM-01112-00243823-00244087 think that when we are making choices piBKTgttDPM-01113-00244088-00244367 it's good not always to piBKTgttDPM-01114-00244367-00244503 fix on our emotional connection to piBKTgttDPM-01115-00244504-00244639 things but to take piBKTgttDPM-01116-00244640-00244775 a little bit of a calculating stance piBKTgttDPM-01117-00244776-00244951 sometimes as well and say well piBKTgttDPM-01118-00244952-00245142 so what truly are my values and how can piBKTgttDPM-01119-00245144-00245367 i best serve those piBKTgttDPM-01120-00245367-00245510 and here's another comparison for piBKTgttDPM-01121-00245511-00245751 instance about the aeds right so the piBKTgttDPM-01122-00245752-00245951 aeds are things that the heart safety piBKTgttDPM-01123-00245952-00246119 and the hardest looking funds piBKTgttDPM-01124-00246119-00246334 that can save people people's lives when piBKTgttDPM-01125-00246335-00246639 they're when when they piBKTgttDPM-01126-00246640-00246991 when their heart stops working it's nice piBKTgttDPM-01127-00246992-00247134 but you can also piBKTgttDPM-01128-00247135-00247367 here is a comparison so it's doing that piBKTgttDPM-01129-00247367-00247494 essentially because these things are piBKTgttDPM-01130-00247496-00247639 quite expensive and not all of them will piBKTgttDPM-01131-00247640-00247846 be used to save one life but there's of piBKTgttDPM-01132-00247848-00248110 course a statistical calculation you'll piBKTgttDPM-01133-00248111-00248263 have to do so you have to buy a number piBKTgttDPM-01134-00248264-00248391 of them and put them in particular piBKTgttDPM-01135-00248392-00248575 places and then ultimately some of them piBKTgttDPM-01136-00248576-00248815 will save lives piBKTgttDPM-01137-00248816-00249134 but the cost of doing so is about 24 000 piBKTgttDPM-01138-00249135-00249310 euros then so you can save a life for piBKTgttDPM-01139-00249311-00249479 two so if you donate twenty four piBKTgttDPM-01140-00249480-00249663 thousand euros to the heart sifting in piBKTgttDPM-01141-00249664-00249855 the art safety will fund put all of that piBKTgttDPM-01142-00249856-00250058 money into buying piBKTgttDPM-01143-00250059-00250223 eeds piBKTgttDPM-01144-00250223-00250375 you will have saved a life which i think piBKTgttDPM-01145-00250376-00250479 is really great piBKTgttDPM-01146-00250480-00250606 something piBKTgttDPM-01147-00250607-00250815 somebody like me right so somebody who piBKTgttDPM-01148-00250816-00251071 maybe doesn't know that they're sick and piBKTgttDPM-01149-00251071-00251310 all of a sudden they are piBKTgttDPM-01150-00251311-00251542 they they need to be rescued and and piBKTgttDPM-01151-00251544-00251751 aeds do do that piBKTgttDPM-01152-00251752-00251934 and surely i mean this is a lot of beers piBKTgttDPM-01153-00251935-00252127 but those beers you'll be willing to piBKTgttDPM-01154-00252128-00252382 forego if you can save a life piBKTgttDPM-01155-00252383-00252527 but the same you can also say about piBKTgttDPM-01156-00252528-00252655 something as simple as malaria nets piBKTgttDPM-01157-00252656-00252894 right so and i know so what i'm saying piBKTgttDPM-01158-00252896-00253094 is not very surprising to people already piBKTgttDPM-01159-00253096-00253198 know a little bit about effective piBKTgttDPM-01160-00253200-00253342 altruism but piBKTgttDPM-01161-00253344-00253534 actually it's just it's just so much piBKTgttDPM-01162-00253535-00253703 cheaper you can you can just piBKTgttDPM-01163-00253704-00253967 save 21 more lives piBKTgttDPM-01164-00253967-00254151 yeah sorry you can say seven seven times piBKTgttDPM-01165-00254152-00254423 more lives i'm sorry so some eight eight piBKTgttDPM-01166-00254423-00254727 times more lives but buy it by piBKTgttDPM-01167-00254728-00254894 sorry piBKTgttDPM-01168-00254896-00255175 um by uh buying malaria in it right so piBKTgttDPM-01169-00255176-00255351 and and and i think we do have to take piBKTgttDPM-01170-00255352-00255542 these things into account we're thinking piBKTgttDPM-01171-00255544-00255767 about okay what is the best thing to do piBKTgttDPM-01172-00255767-00255951 with our time and our money piBKTgttDPM-01173-00255952-00256134 okay so what i do i really want to say piBKTgttDPM-01174-00256135-00256342 so i think giving is really really great piBKTgttDPM-01175-00256344-00256542 and i think giving to every cause is a piBKTgttDPM-01176-00256544-00256710 good thing but that doesn't mean we piBKTgttDPM-01177-00256711-00256823 should also not think a little bit piBKTgttDPM-01178-00256823-00256934 critically piBKTgttDPM-01179-00256935-00257246 about exactly who we are giving to piBKTgttDPM-01180-00257248-00257415 so what are questions we should be piBKTgttDPM-01181-00257416-00257598 asking so when you're thinking about piBKTgttDPM-01182-00257600-00257742 your euro that you're giving away or piBKTgttDPM-01183-00257744-00257951 maybe 100 euros piBKTgttDPM-01184-00257952-00258110 it's it's one thing is the size of the piBKTgttDPM-01185-00258111-00258334 problem so how many people can you help piBKTgttDPM-01186-00258335-00258494 people can you help with piBKTgttDPM-01187-00258496-00258663 with that money piBKTgttDPM-01188-00258664-00258903 but it's also how much money piBKTgttDPM-01189-00258904-00259063 is there already going towards that piBKTgttDPM-01190-00259064-00259271 thing so and i think this is an issue piBKTgttDPM-01191-00259271-00259367 right with piBKTgttDPM-01192-00259367-00259567 cardiovascular disease and piBKTgttDPM-01193-00259567-00259703 is one of the piBKTgttDPM-01194-00259704-00259903 it's not only funded by piBKTgttDPM-01195-00259904-00260071 donations but it's also funded by piBKTgttDPM-01196-00260071-00260239 governments and in particular the piBKTgttDPM-01197-00260240-00260406 pharmaceutical industry they're putting piBKTgttDPM-01198-00260407-00260646 so much money into research already piBKTgttDPM-01199-00260648-00260823 how much money how much difference will piBKTgttDPM-01200-00260823-00261087 your euro really make there piBKTgttDPM-01201-00261088-00261294 and who are the people that are affected piBKTgttDPM-01202-00261296-00261439 are they people who are already doing piBKTgttDPM-01203-00261440-00261655 quite well already get to live piBKTgttDPM-01204-00261656-00261863 to the age of 50 piBKTgttDPM-01205-00261864-00262079 most of the time or any people who might piBKTgttDPM-01206-00262080-00262175 be piBKTgttDPM-01207-00262176-00262351 dying from piBKTgttDPM-01208-00262352-00262663 in very early in very early ages piBKTgttDPM-01209-00262664-00262879 or going blind for instance and even piBKTgttDPM-01210-00262880-00263063 when they're still very young for no piBKTgttDPM-01211-00263064-00263334 fault of their of their own piBKTgttDPM-01212-00263335-00263551 so i want to end here and i'm i'm very piBKTgttDPM-01213-00263552-00263727 curious what you think about think about piBKTgttDPM-01214-00263728-00263863 this but piBKTgttDPM-01215-00263864-00264063 my the point that i want to get across piBKTgttDPM-01216-00264064-00264247 is that donating can do a tremendous piBKTgttDPM-01217-00264248-00264463 amount of good and i think it's really piBKTgttDPM-01218-00264464-00264671 really excellent if you not only not piBKTgttDPM-01219-00264672-00264806 only donating money right but also piBKTgttDPM-01220-00264807-00265119 donating your time and i think that is piBKTgttDPM-01221-00265120-00265287 something you should be doing and it's piBKTgttDPM-01222-00265288-00265430 really great if you do it piBKTgttDPM-01223-00265431-00265551 but also piBKTgttDPM-01224-00265552-00265703 don't just make decisions on a patient piBKTgttDPM-01225-00265704-00266015 basis of like who comes at your door piBKTgttDPM-01226-00266016-00266191 or the problems that you are emotionally piBKTgttDPM-01227-00266192-00267079 connected to piBKTgttDPM-01228-00267080-00267271 all right willem thank you very much piBKTgttDPM-01229-00267272-00267463 very thought provoking there are at the piBKTgttDPM-01230-00267464-00267679 moment many discussions about okay we're piBKTgttDPM-01231-00267680-00267895 opening up borders to ukrainian refugees piBKTgttDPM-01232-00267896-00268087 in europe but why didn't we do that piBKTgttDPM-01233-00268088-00268479 towards afghanian uh refugees um or piBKTgttDPM-01234-00268480-00268775 syrian refugees and i think your uh piBKTgttDPM-01235-00268776-00268975 talk already addressed that question at piBKTgttDPM-01236-00268976-00269215 least in part piBKTgttDPM-01237-00269216-00270079 any questions yes over there piBKTgttDPM-01238-00270080-00270206 thank you for the talk it's really piBKTgttDPM-01239-00270207-00270399 interesting i'm a big fan of this piBKTgttDPM-01240-00270400-00270663 movement of effective altruism but i piBKTgttDPM-01241-00270664-00270895 personally feel like that there's only a piBKTgttDPM-01242-00270896-00271063 certain point until a certain point piBKTgttDPM-01243-00271064-00271182 where you can actually make the piBKTgttDPM-01244-00271183-00271319 comparison piBKTgttDPM-01245-00271320-00271406 and piBKTgttDPM-01246-00271407-00271527 for instance piBKTgttDPM-01247-00271528-00271734 there's one study suggesting that donors piBKTgttDPM-01248-00271735-00271910 think that piBKTgttDPM-01249-00271911-00272143 the the receivers they have lower piBKTgttDPM-01250-00272144-00272351 psychological needs than physical needs piBKTgttDPM-01251-00272352-00272519 but actually the receiver think they're piBKTgttDPM-01252-00272520-00272758 equally important so my question really piBKTgttDPM-01253-00272759-00272863 is piBKTgttDPM-01254-00272864-00273110 who got to decide what is more important piBKTgttDPM-01255-00273111-00273303 for them right like you know like it's piBKTgttDPM-01256-00273304-00273503 usually us who are making this piBKTgttDPM-01257-00273504-00273758 comparison as a donor so maybe this is piBKTgttDPM-01258-00273759-00273982 more important this is more impactful piBKTgttDPM-01259-00273983-00274167 but actually it might not actually be piBKTgttDPM-01260-00274168-00274334 the case and i think that's also piBKTgttDPM-01261-00274335-00274482 something that needs to be piBKTgttDPM-01262-00274483-00274695 addressed yes i think that's absolutely piBKTgttDPM-01263-00274696-00274830 right right it's really difficult to piBKTgttDPM-01264-00274831-00275047 make decisions right and i think people piBKTgttDPM-01265-00275048-00275255 sometimes are also quite disappointed by piBKTgttDPM-01266-00275256-00275543 how much money it's still like you think piBKTgttDPM-01267-00275544-00275767 so there's a there's a serious money piBKTgttDPM-01268-00275768-00276039 issue right in in in africa a serious piBKTgttDPM-01269-00276040-00276255 shortage of economic value which is why piBKTgttDPM-01270-00276256-00276447 some some people's lives are lost but piBKTgttDPM-01271-00276448-00276551 people still are quite i think piBKTgttDPM-01272-00276552-00276743 disappointed rightly that this is also piBKTgttDPM-01273-00276744-00276879 still quite expensive right you still piBKTgttDPM-01274-00276880-00277063 need to invest a lot of money and piBKTgttDPM-01275-00277064-00277206 there's a lot of uncertainty involved in piBKTgttDPM-01276-00277207-00277358 those cases as well piBKTgttDPM-01277-00277359-00277582 and even there right now we're comparing piBKTgttDPM-01278-00277583-00277727 saving a life and i think saving a life piBKTgttDPM-01279-00277728-00277887 is maybe not something that's so hard to piBKTgttDPM-01280-00277888-00278095 measure but but i think maybe you are piBKTgttDPM-01281-00278096-00278255 also hinting at at some other things piBKTgttDPM-01282-00278256-00278391 like perhaps blindness for some people piBKTgttDPM-01283-00278392-00278534 isn't as bad as we piBKTgttDPM-01284-00278535-00278671 as we think it is piBKTgttDPM-01285-00278672-00278839 so some people blind people piBKTgttDPM-01286-00278840-00278975 are actually not that bothered by it piBKTgttDPM-01287-00278976-00280327 while other people yeah piBKTgttDPM-01288-00280328-00280471 no i i think that is right and i think piBKTgttDPM-01289-00280472-00280606 that's a challenge i don't think it's uh piBKTgttDPM-01290-00280607-00280791 i don't think so i think we always have piBKTgttDPM-01291-00280792-00281015 to do things on what we have most reason piBKTgttDPM-01292-00281016-00281158 to believe piBKTgttDPM-01293-00281159-00281310 and and we don't always know we don't piBKTgttDPM-01294-00281311-00281479 always have proof right so it's not we piBKTgttDPM-01295-00281480-00281606 don't we always have to deal with piBKTgttDPM-01296-00281607-00281806 uncertainty in our lives but this is not piBKTgttDPM-01297-00281807-00281958 really a i think this is not really an piBKTgttDPM-01298-00281959-00282103 issue for piBKTgttDPM-01299-00282104-00282239 so just to be clear i don't think this piBKTgttDPM-01300-00282240-00282487 is initiated specific to comparing piBKTgttDPM-01301-00282488-00282671 issues piBKTgttDPM-01302-00282672-00282903 here but it's in fact an issue whenever piBKTgttDPM-01303-00282904-00283030 you're you're wanting to do something piBKTgttDPM-01304-00283031-00283247 for other people right so you're always piBKTgttDPM-01305-00283248-00283391 whenever you want to help somebody and piBKTgttDPM-01306-00283392-00283519 you're making a choice about how you piBKTgttDPM-01307-00283520-00283719 want to help them you're kind of judging piBKTgttDPM-01308-00283720-00283943 it from your perspective and and you piBKTgttDPM-01309-00283944-00284134 might be you might not making an optimal piBKTgttDPM-01310-00284135-00284487 might not be making enough piBKTgttDPM-01311-00284488-00284703 our own perspective i guess that's the piBKTgttDPM-01312-00284704-00284910 one of the problems i think there's not piBKTgttDPM-01313-00284911-00285095 a lot of voice from the receivers what piBKTgttDPM-01314-00285096-00285303 do we truly need for example from their piBKTgttDPM-01315-00285304-00285534 perspective and you're kind of like piBKTgttDPM-01316-00285535-00285727 trying to quantify the impact that you piBKTgttDPM-01317-00285728-00285919 can make with the money but still you're piBKTgttDPM-01318-00285920-00286079 judging it from piBKTgttDPM-01319-00286080-00286479 um what you see as a donor instead right piBKTgttDPM-01320-00286480-00286687 the person with the money it's piBKTgttDPM-01321-00286688-00286854 in a way yeah piBKTgttDPM-01322-00286855-00287054 i mean of course one way to solve that piBKTgttDPM-01323-00287055-00287367 if so if you so it's true that piBKTgttDPM-01324-00287368-00287510 yeah i mean we're all necessarily tied piBKTgttDPM-01325-00287511-00287679 to our perspective so whenever we think piBKTgttDPM-01326-00287680-00287815 we want to do something good we do the piBKTgttDPM-01327-00287816-00288015 thing that we think is is the best and piBKTgttDPM-01328-00288016-00288215 that that might not be correct but if piBKTgttDPM-01329-00288216-00288358 you if you want to put more power in the piBKTgttDPM-01330-00288359-00288671 hands of people who are not uh yeah like piBKTgttDPM-01331-00288672-00288806 as economically piBKTgttDPM-01332-00288807-00288982 empowered as we are you can always like piBKTgttDPM-01333-00288983-00289158 give directly right piBKTgttDPM-01334-00289159-00289319 and then you put the economic power in piBKTgttDPM-01335-00289320-00289487 their hands piBKTgttDPM-01336-00289488-00289943 any other question piBKTgttDPM-01337-00289944-00290095 yeah here piBKTgttDPM-01338-00290096-00290199 if you wait one minute for the piBKTgttDPM-01339-00290200-00290295 microphone i really don't like piBKTgttDPM-01340-00290296-00290606 microphones but piBKTgttDPM-01341-00290607-00290703 um piBKTgttDPM-01342-00290704-00290975 you from this presentation i was um piBKTgttDPM-01343-00290976-00291110 feeling like you were saying like with piBKTgttDPM-01344-00291111-00291295 the same amount of money you can save piBKTgttDPM-01345-00291296-00291510 more lives so take that in consideration piBKTgttDPM-01346-00291511-00291782 right um and and it got me thinking piBKTgttDPM-01347-00291783-00291927 because piBKTgttDPM-01348-00291928-00292158 i feel like but then you're prioritizing piBKTgttDPM-01349-00292159-00292334 the group that's easier to help with piBKTgttDPM-01350-00292335-00292575 less money so maybe we should look at piBKTgttDPM-01351-00292576-00292806 how many people from every group you can piBKTgttDPM-01352-00292807-00292903 help piBKTgttDPM-01353-00292904-00293182 but maybe that does cost a lot more piBKTgttDPM-01354-00293183-00293358 money right so piBKTgttDPM-01355-00293359-00293567 yeah what do you think about that piBKTgttDPM-01356-00293568-00293734 yeah that's interesting so i don't know piBKTgttDPM-01357-00293735-00293863 the question of course is how do you piBKTgttDPM-01358-00293864-00294103 define a group right so you can for piBKTgttDPM-01359-00294104-00294223 instance i don't know if you think piBKTgttDPM-01360-00294224-00294454 having in mind countries like we piBKTgttDPM-01361-00294455-00294647 maybe not countries but like a group of piBKTgttDPM-01362-00294648-00294927 people with a what a disease so disease piBKTgttDPM-01363-00294928-00295223 groups like for for example the aid yeah piBKTgttDPM-01364-00295224-00295423 that costs a lot of money but then the piBKTgttDPM-01365-00295424-00295630 the illness for your for your eyes is piBKTgttDPM-01366-00295631-00295879 way less money but then maybe piBKTgttDPM-01367-00295880-00295999 you want piBKTgttDPM-01368-00296000-00296310 equal amount of people to benefit from piBKTgttDPM-01369-00296311-00296519 from something so how many people can piBKTgttDPM-01370-00296520-00296815 you save by actually donating to the ead piBKTgttDPM-01371-00296816-00297006 so yeah i mean it's a good yeah i mean piBKTgttDPM-01372-00297007-00297134 that's that's that's a good question but piBKTgttDPM-01373-00297135-00297287 of course one of the things you also piBKTgttDPM-01374-00297288-00297519 have to realize is that uh you're you're piBKTgttDPM-01375-00297520-00297727 not really in nobody is really in charge piBKTgttDPM-01376-00297728-00297934 of the distribution of all of the money piBKTgttDPM-01377-00297935-00298175 that's being donated right so it's only piBKTgttDPM-01378-00298176-00298351 it's only you you're making your choice piBKTgttDPM-01379-00298352-00298534 about your money piBKTgttDPM-01380-00298535-00298654 and it's and it's good of course to have piBKTgttDPM-01381-00298655-00298847 this this this idea in mind so you want piBKTgttDPM-01382-00298848-00298991 to have maybe some equal opportunity and piBKTgttDPM-01383-00298992-00299167 not just because you happen to be born piBKTgttDPM-01384-00299168-00299343 with some disease that is very cheap piBKTgttDPM-01385-00299344-00299423 then piBKTgttDPM-01386-00299424-00299543 all of the money will go there but piBKTgttDPM-01387-00299544-00299703 that's also not really the reality that piBKTgttDPM-01388-00299704-00299975 we're we're facing right right yeah but piBKTgttDPM-01389-00299976-00300182 that's a good thing to think about well piBKTgttDPM-01390-00300183-00300382 thank you very much willem and thank you piBKTgttDPM-01391-00300383-00300527 for the questions piBKTgttDPM-01392-00300528-00300710 um maybe already started some more piBKTgttDPM-01393-00300711-00301103 discussions on altruism and volunteering piBKTgttDPM-01394-00301104-00301279 so we first heard the the management piBKTgttDPM-01395-00301280-00301495 perspective on um piBKTgttDPM-01396-00301496-00301710 what is volunteering and and why do piBKTgttDPM-01397-00301711-00301895 people volunteer and then more the piBKTgttDPM-01398-00301896-00302095 philosophical and ethical perspective piBKTgttDPM-01399-00302096-00302303 further going into what exactly is piBKTgttDPM-01400-00302304-00302454 altruism and piBKTgttDPM-01401-00302455-00302727 um how can we be altruistic piBKTgttDPM-01402-00302728-00302863 and and now we go to a more piBKTgttDPM-01403-00302864-00303206 psychological perspective piBKTgttDPM-01404-00303207-00303430 so another villain william slaters piBKTgttDPM-01405-00303431-00303639 william used to be assistant professor piBKTgttDPM-01406-00303640-00303791 in social psychology here at our piBKTgttDPM-01407-00303792-00304023 university and now he became the senior piBKTgttDPM-01408-00304024-00304310 behavioral researcher uh or scientist piBKTgttDPM-01409-00304311-00304567 for rethink pi scientist piBKTgttDPM-01410-00304568-00304767 for we think priorities which is a piBKTgttDPM-01411-00304768-00304958 non-profit organization that conducts piBKTgttDPM-01412-00304959-00305303 research on how to best help humans and piBKTgttDPM-01413-00305304-00305647 animals um so he's also going to help us piBKTgttDPM-01414-00305648-00305847 more with the question how can we be piBKTgttDPM-01415-00305848-00305967 effective piBKTgttDPM-01416-00305968-00306175 altruists piBKTgttDPM-01417-00306176-00306463 right so william good luck thanks thank piBKTgttDPM-01418-00306464-00307079 you please give it up for him piBKTgttDPM-01419-00307080-00307375 all right hey everyone um yeah i'll piBKTgttDPM-01420-00307376-00307582 briefly talk about effective altruism i piBKTgttDPM-01421-00307583-00307767 suppose i mean i'll definitely mention piBKTgttDPM-01422-00307768-00308023 it a few times uh but i actually want to piBKTgttDPM-01423-00308024-00308239 mostly just focus on the psychology of piBKTgttDPM-01424-00308240-00308406 altruism and just get a piBKTgttDPM-01425-00308407-00308854 a better grasp of why we are altruistic piBKTgttDPM-01426-00308855-00309087 now i also realized that i'll take the piBKTgttDPM-01427-00309088-00309279 psychological perspective here but you piBKTgttDPM-01428-00309280-00309406 know what i actually want to begin with piBKTgttDPM-01429-00309407-00309647 a little bit of philosophy and i want to piBKTgttDPM-01430-00309648-00309863 talk about moral realism piBKTgttDPM-01431-00309864-00310127 as sort of this position that there are piBKTgttDPM-01432-00310128-00310375 these like true and false things about piBKTgttDPM-01433-00310376-00310575 morality like some things are good and piBKTgttDPM-01434-00310576-00310758 some things are bad just like certain piBKTgttDPM-01435-00310759-00311054 facts are true or false and i think this piBKTgttDPM-01436-00311055-00311334 is often how we talk about altruism like piBKTgttDPM-01437-00311335-00311551 a certain behavior is really good or piBKTgttDPM-01438-00311552-00311734 really bad like we should promote piBKTgttDPM-01439-00311735-00311910 volunteering because it's really good piBKTgttDPM-01440-00311911-00312071 it's the right thing to do piBKTgttDPM-01441-00312072-00312367 but i think moral realism doesn't make piBKTgttDPM-01442-00312368-00312606 any sense like there's no reason to piBKTgttDPM-01443-00312607-00312830 suppose it's true piBKTgttDPM-01444-00312831-00313006 i'm actually a little bit of a moral piBKTgttDPM-01445-00313007-00313182 nihilist like i just don't think there's piBKTgttDPM-01446-00313183-00313406 any right and wrong i just think there piBKTgttDPM-01447-00313407-00313527 is piBKTgttDPM-01448-00313528-00313839 and i want to kind of take you on board piBKTgttDPM-01449-00313840-00314030 with that so i'm going to see if i can piBKTgttDPM-01450-00314031-00314151 convince you piBKTgttDPM-01451-00314152-00314343 so uh let's see piBKTgttDPM-01452-00314344-00314551 i'll also have a few stories they're piBKTgttDPM-01453-00314552-00314671 also not good piBKTgttDPM-01454-00314672-00314751 but piBKTgttDPM-01455-00314752-00314919 they are informative piBKTgttDPM-01456-00314920-00315263 so here for example we have a a bird piBKTgttDPM-01457-00315264-00315479 it's a pretty cute bird i think piBKTgttDPM-01458-00315480-00315663 it looks so innocent piBKTgttDPM-01459-00315664-00315943 but it's a cow bird and what they do is piBKTgttDPM-01460-00315944-00316119 they lay the eggs piBKTgttDPM-01461-00316120-00316367 of their own in the nests of others piBKTgttDPM-01462-00316368-00316527 and then they have the other birds take piBKTgttDPM-01463-00316528-00316719 care of their offspring and you might piBKTgttDPM-01464-00316720-00316895 think like oh well i guess that's how piBKTgttDPM-01465-00316896-00317095 nature works it's fine piBKTgttDPM-01466-00317096-00317334 um but actually it's not so fine because piBKTgttDPM-01467-00317335-00317471 what happens that piBKTgttDPM-01468-00317472-00317727 is that if the other bird piBKTgttDPM-01469-00317728-00317927 knocks out the egg of this bird then piBKTgttDPM-01470-00317928-00318087 this bird will go back to that nest and piBKTgttDPM-01471-00318088-00318247 kill everyone piBKTgttDPM-01472-00318248-00318454 so basically they just blackmail other piBKTgttDPM-01473-00318455-00318671 birds into taking care of their piBKTgttDPM-01474-00318672-00318823 offspring piBKTgttDPM-01475-00318824-00319095 well that's that's nature piBKTgttDPM-01476-00319096-00319358 or take this little critter it's an piBKTgttDPM-01477-00319359-00319447 insect piBKTgttDPM-01478-00319448-00319615 and um piBKTgttDPM-01479-00319616-00319799 it paralyzes caterpillars and then piBKTgttDPM-01480-00319800-00320079 deposits deposits their eggs inside the piBKTgttDPM-01481-00320080-00320343 caterpillar waits for them to hatch so piBKTgttDPM-01482-00320344-00320519 it gets eaten from the inside while it's piBKTgttDPM-01483-00320520-00320719 still alive piBKTgttDPM-01484-00320720-00321030 i told you these are great stories piBKTgttDPM-01485-00321031-00321254 well so this is this is how nature works piBKTgttDPM-01486-00321255-00321415 like this is something this is the stuff piBKTgttDPM-01487-00321416-00321615 that we see in nature piBKTgttDPM-01488-00321616-00321847 and what i find so funny about this is piBKTgttDPM-01489-00321848-00321951 that piBKTgttDPM-01490-00321952-00322167 we we don't label these things as good piBKTgttDPM-01491-00322168-00322391 or bad we just label them as piBKTgttDPM-01492-00322392-00322751 they are this is what these animals do piBKTgttDPM-01493-00322752-00322943 but you know what the same applies to piBKTgttDPM-01494-00322944-00323054 humans piBKTgttDPM-01495-00323055-00323239 so humans they do these good things they piBKTgttDPM-01496-00323240-00323447 do these bad things like they volunteer piBKTgttDPM-01497-00323448-00323679 they donate each other great things piBKTgttDPM-01498-00323680-00323863 but then they also piBKTgttDPM-01499-00323864-00324015 you know do bad things piBKTgttDPM-01500-00324016-00324287 they betray friendships they cheat on piBKTgttDPM-01501-00324288-00324663 people they you know start wars so lots piBKTgttDPM-01502-00324664-00324910 of bad things happen with that as well piBKTgttDPM-01503-00324911-00325110 and sort of the perspective i take here piBKTgttDPM-01504-00325111-00325367 is like this stuff yeah this happens piBKTgttDPM-01505-00325368-00325543 this is what it is piBKTgttDPM-01506-00325544-00325710 and i don't see it as right or wrong i piBKTgttDPM-01507-00325711-00326030 just see it as the things that happen piBKTgttDPM-01508-00326031-00326271 and i then want to know piBKTgttDPM-01509-00326272-00326510 why or how does this work then piBKTgttDPM-01510-00326511-00326703 and we actually have a theory that can piBKTgttDPM-01511-00326704-00326951 explain all of this like the same as piBKTgttDPM-01512-00326952-00327167 what humans do as what we see with the piBKTgttDPM-01513-00327168-00327295 other animals piBKTgttDPM-01514-00327296-00327534 and that is evolution piBKTgttDPM-01515-00327535-00327895 so evolution is this change inheritable piBKTgttDPM-01516-00327896-00328078 characteristics of biological piBKTgttDPM-01517-00328079-00328375 populations over successive generations piBKTgttDPM-01518-00328376-00328454 now piBKTgttDPM-01519-00328455-00328654 that's uh yeah that's a description piBKTgttDPM-01520-00328655-00328823 i kind of like the description because piBKTgttDPM-01521-00328824-00329143 it seems so dispassionate it's just like piBKTgttDPM-01522-00329144-00329406 it is what it is it's just change piBKTgttDPM-01523-00329407-00329527 it's piBKTgttDPM-01524-00329528-00329743 and it's blind like it's just change piBKTgttDPM-01525-00329744-00329958 it's not like towards a good direction piBKTgttDPM-01526-00329959-00330143 like so it's great or good no it's just piBKTgttDPM-01527-00330144-00330303 stuff that happens piBKTgttDPM-01528-00330304-00330430 and that's what i like about this piBKTgttDPM-01529-00330431-00330615 description that it reveals that it is a piBKTgttDPM-01530-00330616-00330830 blind process piBKTgttDPM-01531-00330831-00331030 and that also explains piBKTgttDPM-01532-00331031-00331271 so much then because if it doesn't care piBKTgttDPM-01533-00331272-00331423 about what happens piBKTgttDPM-01534-00331424-00331639 then anything can happen piBKTgttDPM-01535-00331640-00331863 so or at least potentially everything piBKTgttDPM-01536-00331864-00332103 can happen and so it explains all these piBKTgttDPM-01537-00332104-00332254 different life forms all these different piBKTgttDPM-01538-00332255-00332447 species that we see and all of these piBKTgttDPM-01539-00332448-00332623 different kinds of behaviors that they piBKTgttDPM-01540-00332624-00332775 perform piBKTgttDPM-01541-00332776-00333039 and also that it just doesn't care if piBKTgttDPM-01542-00333040-00333278 something is good or bad it just cares piBKTgttDPM-01543-00333279-00333575 about whether something leads to piBKTgttDPM-01544-00333576-00333687 an increase piBKTgttDPM-01545-00333688-00333975 in reproduction so more generations piBKTgttDPM-01546-00333976-00334319 that's the only thing that matters piBKTgttDPM-01547-00334320-00334551 now why why would i even like start piBKTgttDPM-01548-00334552-00334734 talking about this because it seems so piBKTgttDPM-01549-00334735-00334895 depressing but piBKTgttDPM-01550-00334896-00335030 i actually think there's an insane piBKTgttDPM-01551-00335031-00335263 amount of value here because it offers piBKTgttDPM-01552-00335264-00335334 us piBKTgttDPM-01553-00335335-00335543 uh better explanations piBKTgttDPM-01554-00335544-00335695 and i think there are like it makes piBKTgttDPM-01555-00335696-00335887 sense to talk about different types of piBKTgttDPM-01556-00335888-00336103 explanations so the first one is piBKTgttDPM-01557-00336104-00336358 proximate which are the ones that uh i piBKTgttDPM-01558-00336359-00336606 think we most often talk about so these piBKTgttDPM-01559-00336607-00336678 are piBKTgttDPM-01560-00336679-00336823 explanations on the level of the piBKTgttDPM-01561-00336824-00337119 individual so why why does a person piBKTgttDPM-01562-00337120-00337310 perform a particular behavior piBKTgttDPM-01563-00337311-00337558 and i see that in previous talks today piBKTgttDPM-01564-00337559-00337734 or when we ask for like why do you piBKTgttDPM-01565-00337735-00338006 volunteer we said we tend to see these piBKTgttDPM-01566-00338007-00338215 kinds of explanations piBKTgttDPM-01567-00338216-00338310 um piBKTgttDPM-01568-00338311-00338575 as a psychologist we might also piBKTgttDPM-01569-00338576-00338823 use these types of explanations piBKTgttDPM-01570-00338824-00339119 so here's an example we label somebody piBKTgttDPM-01571-00339120-00339439 as having a altruistic personality and piBKTgttDPM-01572-00339440-00339663 therefore she volunteers like a that's piBKTgttDPM-01573-00339664-00339910 an explanation like she's the type that piBKTgttDPM-01574-00339911-00340063 volunteers piBKTgttDPM-01575-00340064-00340239 or perhaps piBKTgttDPM-01576-00340240-00340415 here we have somebody whose parents piBKTgttDPM-01577-00340416-00340639 taught him to be kind and altruistic and piBKTgttDPM-01578-00340640-00340887 therefore he donates money so that's piBKTgttDPM-01579-00340888-00341134 also a particular explanation piBKTgttDPM-01580-00341135-00341406 but it's not satisfying to me at all piBKTgttDPM-01581-00341407-00341615 because i can still ask well why does piBKTgttDPM-01582-00341616-00341863 she have an altruistic personality and piBKTgttDPM-01583-00341864-00342071 why did the parents teach them to be piBKTgttDPM-01584-00342072-00342310 altruistic so to me these are not piBKTgttDPM-01585-00342311-00342415 ultimate piBKTgttDPM-01586-00342416-00342678 like i want the ultimate explanation so piBKTgttDPM-01587-00342679-00342863 that i do not have to ask a follow-up piBKTgttDPM-01588-00342864-00343006 why question piBKTgttDPM-01589-00343007-00343303 and that is the evolutionary explanation piBKTgttDPM-01590-00343304-00343406 because piBKTgttDPM-01591-00343407-00343599 when we know how some how something piBKTgttDPM-01592-00343600-00343823 evolved then that is the reason why it piBKTgttDPM-01593-00343824-00344015 happened piBKTgttDPM-01594-00344016-00344087 so piBKTgttDPM-01595-00344088-00344303 those are the ultimate explanations and piBKTgttDPM-01596-00344304-00344495 i think we can also apply those to piBKTgttDPM-01597-00344496-00344639 altruism piBKTgttDPM-01598-00344640-00344758 so piBKTgttDPM-01599-00344759-00345015 i want to talk next about piBKTgttDPM-01600-00345016-00345206 looking at altruism with the lens of piBKTgttDPM-01601-00345207-00345534 evolution to see can this explain piBKTgttDPM-01602-00345535-00345734 why we do these nice things piBKTgttDPM-01603-00345735-00345943 and we at least label is nice evolution piBKTgttDPM-01604-00345944-00346127 doesn't care piBKTgttDPM-01605-00346128-00346206 so piBKTgttDPM-01606-00346207-00346423 there's a nice paper a very recent paper piBKTgttDPM-01607-00346424-00346510 by piBKTgttDPM-01608-00346511-00346751 bastian yeager and von vert piBKTgttDPM-01609-00346752-00346943 and they actually described three piBKTgttDPM-01610-00346944-00347175 reasons three ultimate explanations for piBKTgttDPM-01611-00347176-00347415 why altruism evolved these are piBKTgttDPM-01612-00347416-00347678 parochialism status and conformity so piBKTgttDPM-01613-00347679-00348239 let's briefly go over these piBKTgttDPM-01614-00348240-00348487 so the first one parochialism piBKTgttDPM-01615-00348488-00348647 it's um piBKTgttDPM-01616-00348648-00348871 it's something very common you probably piBKTgttDPM-01617-00348872-00349047 have heard of this before piBKTgttDPM-01618-00349048-00349319 it's that we seem to have evolved to piBKTgttDPM-01619-00349320-00349495 care about certain people more than piBKTgttDPM-01620-00349496-00349775 others so we care more about kin which piBKTgttDPM-01621-00349776-00349999 is basically another word for family so piBKTgttDPM-01622-00350000-00350247 we care definitely a lot more about our piBKTgttDPM-01623-00350248-00350510 own children for example or our parents piBKTgttDPM-01624-00350511-00350591 or piBKTgttDPM-01625-00350592-00350758 grandparents or nephews like we care piBKTgttDPM-01626-00350759-00350943 more about them compared to just any piBKTgttDPM-01627-00350944-00351151 random other person piBKTgttDPM-01628-00351152-00351375 but not just family also interdependent piBKTgttDPM-01629-00351376-00351615 others like friends we definitely care piBKTgttDPM-01630-00351616-00351767 about our friends and very important to piBKTgttDPM-01631-00351768-00351839 us piBKTgttDPM-01632-00351840-00351943 um piBKTgttDPM-01633-00351944-00352119 and so we care more about them than just piBKTgttDPM-01634-00352120-00352247 a stranger piBKTgttDPM-01635-00352248-00352471 but also just generally those who are piBKTgttDPM-01636-00352472-00352758 more similar to us we care more about so piBKTgttDPM-01637-00352759-00352910 those who share the same color of our piBKTgttDPM-01638-00352911-00353063 skin the ones who speak the same piBKTgttDPM-01639-00353064-00353182 language piBKTgttDPM-01640-00353183-00353351 this have the same values we just seem piBKTgttDPM-01641-00353352-00353606 to care more about them than we care piBKTgttDPM-01642-00353607-00353727 about others piBKTgttDPM-01643-00353728-00353919 so this we can also label us we care piBKTgttDPM-01644-00353920-00354175 more about those who are more like us piBKTgttDPM-01645-00354176-00354487 compared to them piBKTgttDPM-01646-00354488-00354687 and yeah we see this it was already piBKTgttDPM-01647-00354688-00354910 briefly mentioned today that we see it piBKTgttDPM-01648-00354911-00355167 with the current war in ukraine we see piBKTgttDPM-01649-00355168-00355391 for example these tweets here that all piBKTgttDPM-01650-00355392-00355567 of a sudden now we care more about piBKTgttDPM-01651-00355568-00355767 ukraine because piBKTgttDPM-01652-00355768-00355967 it's no longer in those impoverished and piBKTgttDPM-01653-00355968-00356223 remote populations no this is close by piBKTgttDPM-01654-00356224-00356543 or these are white people so we must piBKTgttDPM-01655-00356544-00356695 care more piBKTgttDPM-01656-00356696-00356919 because they're more similar to us piBKTgttDPM-01657-00356920-00357063 now piBKTgttDPM-01658-00357064-00357310 i strongly disagree on a personal level piBKTgttDPM-01659-00357311-00357591 but again it does reveal piBKTgttDPM-01660-00357592-00357847 uh that we or at least at least some of piBKTgttDPM-01661-00357848-00358071 us they seem to think along these lines piBKTgttDPM-01662-00358072-00358310 of us versus them and we care more about piBKTgttDPM-01663-00358311-00358575 those who are similar piBKTgttDPM-01664-00358576-00358791 and we also see this in research on piBKTgttDPM-01665-00358792-00359103 exactly the topic of moral concern so piBKTgttDPM-01666-00359104-00359239 when we piBKTgttDPM-01667-00359240-00359503 vary systematically the social distance piBKTgttDPM-01668-00359504-00359799 between people then people actually rate piBKTgttDPM-01669-00359800-00359975 those who are closer to them as piBKTgttDPM-01670-00359976-00360287 deserving of more moral concern piBKTgttDPM-01671-00360288-00360463 and this is not because of distance piBKTgttDPM-01672-00360464-00360663 distance doesn't mean anything but it piBKTgttDPM-01673-00360664-00360839 tends to be confounded with certain piBKTgttDPM-01674-00360840-00361006 attributes like group membership so the piBKTgttDPM-01675-00361007-00361191 ones who are closer to you tend to be piBKTgttDPM-01676-00361192-00361399 part of your own group while those very piBKTgttDPM-01677-00361400-00361575 far away they are probably not in your piBKTgttDPM-01678-00361576-00361710 group so you piBKTgttDPM-01679-00361711-00361871 so then you don't have to care as much piBKTgttDPM-01680-00361872-00362015 so if you control for those things then piBKTgttDPM-01681-00362016-00362182 indeed you see that it's factors like piBKTgttDPM-01682-00362183-00362423 group membership that affect whether piBKTgttDPM-01683-00362424-00362682 people think that someone deserves moral piBKTgttDPM-01684-00362683-00362878 concern piBKTgttDPM-01685-00362879-00363127 we also see it in the way we donate we piBKTgttDPM-01686-00363128-00363254 donate piBKTgttDPM-01687-00363255-00363503 more to local charities than we do to piBKTgttDPM-01688-00363504-00363687 international charities piBKTgttDPM-01689-00363688-00363919 and that's a bit of a bummer because we piBKTgttDPM-01690-00363920-00364215 can actually do more good as was also piBKTgttDPM-01691-00364216-00364382 seen in the previous talk piBKTgttDPM-01692-00364383-00364630 by actually donating to international piBKTgttDPM-01693-00364631-00364863 causes like for example not to seeing piBKTgttDPM-01694-00364864-00365095 eye dog support but actually to piBKTgttDPM-01695-00365096-00365399 the tacoma operations piBKTgttDPM-01696-00365400-00365623 and also a nice example is give directly piBKTgttDPM-01697-00365624-00365767 which also shows piBKTgttDPM-01698-00365768-00365934 uh on their website that they can piBKTgttDPM-01699-00365935-00366182 actually do more good with your money in piBKTgttDPM-01700-00366183-00366367 particular countries because give piBKTgttDPM-01701-00366368-00366551 directly you can just donate money and piBKTgttDPM-01702-00366552-00366751 then that money will directly go to the piBKTgttDPM-01703-00366752-00366958 donors so that the donors can decide piBKTgttDPM-01704-00366959-00367143 what to do with it and you can actually piBKTgttDPM-01705-00367144-00367319 do that better if you donate to those piBKTgttDPM-01706-00367320-00367478 who are really poor compared to those piBKTgttDPM-01707-00367479-00367727 who are less poor piBKTgttDPM-01708-00367728-00367919 but that is not a tendency that we seem piBKTgttDPM-01709-00367920-00368175 to have we just care more about piBKTgttDPM-01710-00368176-00368551 us than them piBKTgttDPM-01711-00368552-00368806 so that's the first parochialism now the piBKTgttDPM-01712-00368807-00369047 second is status piBKTgttDPM-01713-00369048-00369230 and i have to admit i was a little bit piBKTgttDPM-01714-00369231-00369391 surprised by some of the reasons some of piBKTgttDPM-01715-00369392-00369654 you gave for volunteering like it seemed piBKTgttDPM-01716-00369655-00369871 to reek of status to me like you do it piBKTgttDPM-01717-00369872-00370047 for personal reasons to get certain piBKTgttDPM-01718-00370048-00370230 benefits yourself and to be liked and piBKTgttDPM-01719-00370231-00370343 stuff like that piBKTgttDPM-01720-00370344-00370551 and you know yeah that is indeed what piBKTgttDPM-01721-00370552-00370782 humans are like humans respond to piBKTgttDPM-01722-00370783-00370991 reputational incentives like they have a piBKTgttDPM-01723-00370992-00371223 particular reputation meaning people piBKTgttDPM-01724-00371224-00371478 think of a certain way about them and we piBKTgttDPM-01725-00371479-00371671 want that to be positive like we want piBKTgttDPM-01726-00371672-00371927 people to like us piBKTgttDPM-01727-00371928-00372127 as and this is usually relevant in a piBKTgttDPM-01728-00372128-00372302 particular group because that means that piBKTgttDPM-01729-00372303-00372575 you will become the leader or piBKTgttDPM-01730-00372576-00372695 in a particular group there are other piBKTgttDPM-01731-00372696-00372934 people and you want to be a friend with piBKTgttDPM-01732-00372935-00373239 certain people and if you are indeed piBKTgttDPM-01733-00373240-00373319 better piBKTgttDPM-01734-00373320-00373575 and like nicer then you will be selected piBKTgttDPM-01735-00373576-00373767 more as like a friend or a leader or piBKTgttDPM-01736-00373768-00373975 even a date piBKTgttDPM-01737-00373976-00374254 so we care about that uh for all of piBKTgttDPM-01738-00374255-00374567 various benefits like resources like uh piBKTgttDPM-01739-00374568-00374751 getting favors from people or even piBKTgttDPM-01740-00374752-00374863 protection piBKTgttDPM-01741-00374864-00375071 or like i mentioned piBKTgttDPM-01742-00375072-00375263 mates which is actually just romantic piBKTgttDPM-01743-00375264-00375534 partners you're actually more attractive piBKTgttDPM-01744-00375535-00375767 if you're nicer piBKTgttDPM-01745-00375768-00375958 compared to when you're you know a dick piBKTgttDPM-01746-00375959-00376334 and people just don't like that piBKTgttDPM-01747-00376335-00376599 and again supported by research so we piBKTgttDPM-01748-00376600-00376775 see that if you ask people like a bunch piBKTgttDPM-01749-00376776-00376991 of traits and then ask them like okay piBKTgttDPM-01750-00376992-00377167 how much do you value that trait in a piBKTgttDPM-01751-00377168-00377454 person then we see that being altruistic piBKTgttDPM-01752-00377455-00377543 is piBKTgttDPM-01753-00377544-00377751 very much regarded as a very positive piBKTgttDPM-01754-00377752-00378006 trait to have piBKTgttDPM-01755-00378007-00378182 they're also preferred as social piBKTgttDPM-01756-00378183-00378423 partners so if you get them into the lab piBKTgttDPM-01757-00378424-00378647 you uh design this like game where piBKTgttDPM-01758-00378648-00378839 people have to like big partners then piBKTgttDPM-01759-00378840-00379015 you actually see that if you were nice piBKTgttDPM-01760-00379016-00379158 then actually you're increase the piBKTgttDPM-01761-00379159-00379406 chances of being picked to work together piBKTgttDPM-01762-00379407-00379575 in subsequent tasks you actually read piBKTgttDPM-01763-00379576-00379871 then the benefits of being included even piBKTgttDPM-01764-00379872-00380054 when you were initially like sacrificing piBKTgttDPM-01765-00380055-00380263 yourself by being altruistic piBKTgttDPM-01766-00380264-00380415 but you would then reap the benefits piBKTgttDPM-01767-00380416-00380654 later piBKTgttDPM-01768-00380655-00380815 this can even lead to something called piBKTgttDPM-01769-00380816-00381087 competitive altruism which is this funny piBKTgttDPM-01770-00381088-00381206 notion like piBKTgttDPM-01771-00381207-00381358 uh here we're talking about something piBKTgttDPM-01772-00381359-00381502 nice but now it's all of a sudden a piBKTgttDPM-01773-00381503-00381815 competition of being nice piBKTgttDPM-01774-00381816-00381982 which is a very weird notion but it piBKTgttDPM-01775-00381983-00382199 basically means you try to be nicer than piBKTgttDPM-01776-00382200-00382399 somebody else so that you will be liked piBKTgttDPM-01777-00382400-00382630 more than the other person so you're piBKTgttDPM-01778-00382631-00382830 just competing and being nice piBKTgttDPM-01779-00382831-00383278 which is just hilarious to me piBKTgttDPM-01780-00383279-00383478 now piBKTgttDPM-01781-00383479-00383695 a little bit going a little bit back to piBKTgttDPM-01782-00383696-00383999 this this status issue so let's take piBKTgttDPM-01783-00384000-00384167 this very concrete example piBKTgttDPM-01784-00384168-00384478 suppose that laura donates 100 piBKTgttDPM-01785-00384479-00384663 to the malaria consortium piBKTgttDPM-01786-00384664-00384847 now what do we think of this piBKTgttDPM-01787-00384848-00385023 and there are two main factors that we piBKTgttDPM-01788-00385024-00385310 can look at the first one is piBKTgttDPM-01789-00385311-00385391 uh piBKTgttDPM-01790-00385392-00385782 the sacrifice so laura sacrificed 100 piBKTgttDPM-01791-00385783-00386054 so that was the personal cost piBKTgttDPM-01792-00386055-00386223 okay so that's great that's that seems piBKTgttDPM-01793-00386224-00386367 admirable piBKTgttDPM-01794-00386368-00386639 but what about the effect piBKTgttDPM-01795-00386640-00386854 so this donation then resulted in four piBKTgttDPM-01796-00386855-00387119 children uh not getting malaria so that piBKTgttDPM-01797-00387120-00387254 seems pretty great piBKTgttDPM-01798-00387255-00387527 too so maybe we should really like laura piBKTgttDPM-01799-00387528-00387734 because of that the social benefit not piBKTgttDPM-01800-00387735-00387878 the cost piBKTgttDPM-01801-00387879-00388143 so what do people pay more attention to piBKTgttDPM-01802-00388144-00388423 the fact that she sacrificed the money piBKTgttDPM-01803-00388424-00388519 yeah piBKTgttDPM-01804-00388520-00388599 or piBKTgttDPM-01805-00388600-00388767 the effect piBKTgttDPM-01806-00388768-00388895 turns out piBKTgttDPM-01807-00388896-00389151 it's the costs not the benefits piBKTgttDPM-01808-00389152-00389415 so if you systematically vary like a piBKTgttDPM-01809-00389416-00389606 particular situation and then the piBKTgttDPM-01810-00389607-00389854 effects are better or worse or it costs piBKTgttDPM-01811-00389855-00390063 more or less and we see that people piBKTgttDPM-01812-00390064-00390295 track the costs more than the actual piBKTgttDPM-01813-00390296-00390615 benefits of the act which is insane if piBKTgttDPM-01814-00390616-00390895 you are concerned about doing good piBKTgttDPM-01815-00390896-00391039 uh but it makes a lot of sense in other piBKTgttDPM-01816-00391040-00391143 ways piBKTgttDPM-01817-00391144-00391319 you also see it here like here's an piBKTgttDPM-01818-00391320-00391527 example of another tweet this was jeff piBKTgttDPM-01819-00391528-00391943 bezos donating 100 million dollars to piBKTgttDPM-01820-00391944-00392167 help the homeless so that's great piBKTgttDPM-01821-00392168-00392343 but then somebody comments piBKTgttDPM-01822-00392344-00392627 uh yeah great that this person donated piBKTgttDPM-01823-00392628-00392910 0.04 of his income piBKTgttDPM-01824-00392911-00393102 as if then all of a sudden doesn't like piBKTgttDPM-01825-00393103-00393334 produce these insane amounts of good piBKTgttDPM-01826-00393335-00393463 now of course he might be a jerk for piBKTgttDPM-01827-00393464-00393623 other reasons but i would say that this piBKTgttDPM-01828-00393624-00393839 is great piBKTgttDPM-01829-00393840-00394095 now this idea is actually called costly piBKTgttDPM-01830-00394096-00394223 signaling like the fact that you piBKTgttDPM-01831-00394224-00394399 sacrifice something and then reap piBKTgttDPM-01832-00394400-00394702 certain benefits it's not even unique piBKTgttDPM-01833-00394703-00394902 to humans definitely not piBKTgttDPM-01834-00394903-00395095 we also see it in the peacock piBKTgttDPM-01835-00395096-00395239 like the tail piBKTgttDPM-01836-00395240-00395510 it's insane it's a completely useless piBKTgttDPM-01837-00395511-00395687 thing almost like it's it's huge and piBKTgttDPM-01838-00395688-00395958 it's very unwieldy to move around in but piBKTgttDPM-01839-00395959-00396158 it indicates that you're able to piBKTgttDPM-01840-00396159-00396351 actually still survive while having this piBKTgttDPM-01841-00396352-00396543 annoying tale so piBKTgttDPM-01842-00396544-00396830 and that is very attractive in a mate so piBKTgttDPM-01843-00396831-00396958 that's actually why peacocks still piBKTgttDPM-01844-00396959-00397063 survive piBKTgttDPM-01845-00397064-00397278 same with humans we can sacrifice and piBKTgttDPM-01846-00397279-00397454 thereby indicate actually how strong we piBKTgttDPM-01847-00397455-00397654 really are and that's called costly piBKTgttDPM-01848-00397655-00398087 signaling that's then something we value piBKTgttDPM-01849-00398088-00398167 now piBKTgttDPM-01850-00398168-00398415 finally there's conformity piBKTgttDPM-01851-00398416-00398510 so piBKTgttDPM-01852-00398511-00398599 we piBKTgttDPM-01853-00398600-00398799 have also evolved to just copy people's piBKTgttDPM-01854-00398800-00398927 behaviors piBKTgttDPM-01855-00398928-00399087 which makes a lot of sense of course and piBKTgttDPM-01856-00399088-00399391 we do it for definitely two big reasons piBKTgttDPM-01857-00399392-00399599 and one is that it helps us figure out piBKTgttDPM-01858-00399600-00399830 complex situations if we can just copy piBKTgttDPM-01859-00399831-00399967 what other people are doing and we don't piBKTgttDPM-01860-00399968-00400078 have to think piBKTgttDPM-01861-00400079-00400206 great piBKTgttDPM-01862-00400207-00400423 or it also helps us to be liked like if piBKTgttDPM-01863-00400424-00400606 you just do what others are doing then piBKTgttDPM-01864-00400607-00400767 of course they must like that which piBKTgttDPM-01865-00400768-00401023 means they'll like us piBKTgttDPM-01866-00401024-00401215 now we see this also with donations we piBKTgttDPM-01867-00401216-00401334 see that people don't actually think a piBKTgttDPM-01868-00401335-00401439 lot about piBKTgttDPM-01869-00401440-00401606 how to do good piBKTgttDPM-01870-00401607-00401815 they tend to go for yeah the things that piBKTgttDPM-01871-00401816-00402039 are personally personally connected to piBKTgttDPM-01872-00402040-00402295 them but they're not really delving into piBKTgttDPM-01873-00402296-00402487 like on the internet and comparing all piBKTgttDPM-01874-00402488-00402734 of the different uh charities and see piBKTgttDPM-01875-00402735-00402878 which ones are the most effective we piBKTgttDPM-01876-00402879-00403206 actually don't seem to do that piBKTgttDPM-01877-00403207-00403382 we also see that they donate more when piBKTgttDPM-01878-00403383-00403551 they see that other people are donating piBKTgttDPM-01879-00403552-00403775 so there's like some nice studies where piBKTgttDPM-01880-00403776-00403967 they have these empty boxes and then piBKTgttDPM-01881-00403968-00404191 they vary how much money is in there piBKTgttDPM-01882-00404192-00404391 and then uh you see in these conditions piBKTgttDPM-01883-00404392-00404567 where there already is some money people piBKTgttDPM-01884-00404568-00404734 actually end up donating more because piBKTgttDPM-01885-00404735-00404919 they see like oh apparently i'm supposed piBKTgttDPM-01886-00404920-00405119 to donate so i'll donate piBKTgttDPM-01887-00405120-00405367 and they even match the money that's in piBKTgttDPM-01888-00405368-00405615 the boxes so they donate more coins here piBKTgttDPM-01889-00405616-00405887 and more bills here so it's like very piBKTgttDPM-01890-00405888-00406054 funny how they are sensitive to these piBKTgttDPM-01891-00406055-00406287 social cues to donate rather than just piBKTgttDPM-01892-00406288-00406430 you know decide whether this is piBKTgttDPM-01893-00406431-00406823 something uh that they care about piBKTgttDPM-01894-00406824-00406951 so piBKTgttDPM-01895-00406952-00407151 i think these examples show us that piBKTgttDPM-01896-00407152-00407367 we're not driven to be piBKTgttDPM-01897-00407368-00407639 like super effective altruists piBKTgttDPM-01898-00407640-00407958 i think instead that these results piBKTgttDPM-01899-00407959-00408239 support that were mostly driven by other piBKTgttDPM-01900-00408240-00408406 fundamental motives piBKTgttDPM-01901-00408407-00408647 so we're and then i should say like not piBKTgttDPM-01902-00408648-00408878 that we are not motivated by altruistic piBKTgttDPM-01903-00408879-00409095 motivations clearly we are but piBKTgttDPM-01904-00409096-00409302 apparently it's not fundamental really piBKTgttDPM-01905-00409303-00409471 because if if we really care about piBKTgttDPM-01906-00409472-00409734 altruism we should be effective piBKTgttDPM-01907-00409735-00409887 and like we should have way more piBKTgttDPM-01908-00409888-00410095 tendencies that also piBKTgttDPM-01909-00410096-00410326 promote being very effective altruists piBKTgttDPM-01910-00410327-00410487 but instead we seem to be a bit more piBKTgttDPM-01911-00410488-00410670 relaxed in that regard that we we seem piBKTgttDPM-01912-00410671-00410999 to be focused on other aspects instead piBKTgttDPM-01913-00411000-00411134 and i cover three of them the piBKTgttDPM-01914-00411135-00411487 parochialism status in conformity piBKTgttDPM-01915-00411488-00411678 now i think this is important to realize piBKTgttDPM-01916-00411679-00411855 like i think it's important to take this piBKTgttDPM-01917-00411856-00412039 perspective that there might be these piBKTgttDPM-01918-00412039-00412278 fundamental motives that underlie our piBKTgttDPM-01919-00412279-00412526 behavior because then we can optimize it piBKTgttDPM-01920-00412527-00412751 so i think one to talk about like piBKTgttDPM-01921-00412752-00412966 realistic moralism makes no sense like i piBKTgttDPM-01922-00412967-00413118 don't think we can expect people to just piBKTgttDPM-01923-00413119-00413239 do the right thing piBKTgttDPM-01924-00413239-00413495 as if there is this this right thing piBKTgttDPM-01925-00413496-00413695 that we all agree on because i don't piBKTgttDPM-01926-00413696-00413814 think we do piBKTgttDPM-01927-00413815-00413966 now i think it's better that we take piBKTgttDPM-01928-00413967-00414159 into account these automotives and then piBKTgttDPM-01929-00414160-00414359 play into them so piBKTgttDPM-01930-00414360-00414526 perhaps we should piBKTgttDPM-01931-00414527-00414710 emphasize the similarities between piBKTgttDPM-01932-00414712-00414799 people piBKTgttDPM-01933-00414800-00415055 and like really try to get everybody to piBKTgttDPM-01934-00415056-00415239 see others as similar to them so that piBKTgttDPM-01935-00415239-00415374 they care more piBKTgttDPM-01936-00415375-00415559 and here i want to pitch something like piBKTgttDPM-01937-00415560-00415814 sentientism which is the view that piBKTgttDPM-01938-00415815-00416030 for something to be morally relevant the piBKTgttDPM-01939-00416031-00416214 only thing you need is to be sentient piBKTgttDPM-01940-00416215-00416399 you just need to be able to feel pain piBKTgttDPM-01941-00416400-00416599 and pleasure and then you're morally piBKTgttDPM-01942-00416600-00416782 relevant because apparently you can feel piBKTgttDPM-01943-00416783-00417070 bad and that sucks so we should care piBKTgttDPM-01944-00417071-00417287 a rock doesn't tend to feel anything so piBKTgttDPM-01945-00417288-00417470 do whatever you want with a rock but piBKTgttDPM-01946-00417471-00417678 everything else that can feel things piBKTgttDPM-01947-00417679-00417887 seems to be very important and morally piBKTgttDPM-01948-00417888-00418134 relevant piBKTgttDPM-01949-00418135-00418287 perhaps also we should just reward piBKTgttDPM-01950-00418288-00418487 people more if that is clearly why they piBKTgttDPM-01951-00418488-00418726 are being altruistic and we already do piBKTgttDPM-01952-00418727-00418943 this in some capacity like donations are piBKTgttDPM-01953-00418943-00419174 tax deductible but you know that's not piBKTgttDPM-01954-00419175-00419503 super sexy as a reward it's sort of nice piBKTgttDPM-01955-00419504-00419679 but we i think we can do a lot more to piBKTgttDPM-01956-00419680-00419910 reward people for their super card piBKTgttDPM-01957-00419912-00420079 behavior piBKTgttDPM-01958-00420080-00420255 and also to make it easy like we should piBKTgttDPM-01959-00420256-00420455 make it easy because it is hard piBKTgttDPM-01960-00420456-00420679 uh like we are still lazy in some piBKTgttDPM-01961-00420680-00420879 capacity and some things are difficult piBKTgttDPM-01962-00420880-00421022 to figure out so we should make it as piBKTgttDPM-01963-00421023-00421183 easy as possible so that they donate to piBKTgttDPM-01964-00421184-00421279 the right piBKTgttDPM-01965-00421280-00421543 causes piBKTgttDPM-01966-00421543-00421870 particularly the effective ones piBKTgttDPM-01967-00421871-00422031 and now i want to end piBKTgttDPM-01968-00422032-00422214 uh with just one important final thought piBKTgttDPM-01969-00422215-00422414 because i realized that uh this whole piBKTgttDPM-01970-00422415-00422535 evolutionary piBKTgttDPM-01971-00422535-00422791 talk by me is like super depressing piBKTgttDPM-01972-00422792-00422863 and piBKTgttDPM-01973-00422864-00423007 as if i had this like super negative piBKTgttDPM-01974-00423008-00423159 view of people piBKTgttDPM-01975-00423160-00423310 that's not true piBKTgttDPM-01976-00423312-00423414 um piBKTgttDPM-01977-00423415-00423614 or sort of it is but you know it is what piBKTgttDPM-01978-00423615-00423831 it is like i'm i'm just motivated to piBKTgttDPM-01979-00423832-00423999 give you the correct answer piBKTgttDPM-01980-00424000-00424191 and not a particular view of the world piBKTgttDPM-01981-00424192-00424518 so that's the first motive but then i do piBKTgttDPM-01982-00424519-00424607 want to piBKTgttDPM-01983-00424608-00424855 like stress that we should be piBKTgttDPM-01984-00424856-00425055 very lucky like because evolution piBKTgttDPM-01985-00425056-00425279 doesn't care right anything can happen piBKTgttDPM-01986-00425280-00425470 but now it turns out that evolution has piBKTgttDPM-01987-00425471-00425863 stumbled upon us humans that give a piBKTgttDPM-01988-00425864-00426055 like we actually care about other things piBKTgttDPM-01989-00426056-00426214 like we have the capacity for for piBKTgttDPM-01990-00426215-00426487 empathy and sympathy and that's amazing piBKTgttDPM-01991-00426488-00426663 like it didn't have to happen piBKTgttDPM-01992-00426664-00426870 and that's why it's uh just so cool that piBKTgttDPM-01993-00426871-00427095 it did happen which is why i find humans piBKTgttDPM-01994-00427096-00427422 still so amazing and not negative like i piBKTgttDPM-01995-00427423-00427599 don't think they're dates no they're piBKTgttDPM-01996-00427600-00427743 great piBKTgttDPM-01997-00427743-00427887 but i do want to say that we have to get piBKTgttDPM-01998-00427888-00428166 better at being nice piBKTgttDPM-01999-00428167-00428822 all right that's what i had all right piBKTgttDPM-02000-00428823-00429566 thank you very much william questions piBKTgttDPM-02001-00429567-00429775 no then i have a question is it a bit of piBKTgttDPM-02002-00429776-00430055 contradiction that if it's just piBKTgttDPM-02003-00430056-00430207 evolutionary and it is what it is then piBKTgttDPM-02004-00430208-00430366 why should we get better piBKTgttDPM-02005-00430367-00430551 uh yes very good question that is piBKTgttDPM-02006-00430552-00430847 normative that's true um piBKTgttDPM-02007-00430847-00431159 so my response to that is a little bit piBKTgttDPM-02008-00431160-00431463 decartion if i may piBKTgttDPM-02009-00431464-00431679 there's no doubt that good feelings feel piBKTgttDPM-02010-00431680-00431895 good and bad feelings feel bad piBKTgttDPM-02011-00431896-00432127 so at least on an individual level i am piBKTgttDPM-02012-00432128-00432303 definitely motivated to do the things piBKTgttDPM-02013-00432304-00432575 that end up feeling good rather than bad piBKTgttDPM-02014-00432576-00432743 and then i think piBKTgttDPM-02015-00432743-00432943 all else being equal if i can do piBKTgttDPM-02016-00432943-00433127 something that feels good like if i get piBKTgttDPM-02017-00433128-00433399 rewarded for my good and i produce good piBKTgttDPM-02018-00433400-00433575 elsewhere then piBKTgttDPM-02019-00433576-00433743 it seems better piBKTgttDPM-02020-00433743-00433959 to have that rather than something else piBKTgttDPM-02021-00433960-00434095 then i think you should talk with willem piBKTgttDPM-02022-00434096-00434318 because this is actually for pursuing piBKTgttDPM-02023-00434319-00434551 the things that do feel good yeah yeah piBKTgttDPM-02024-00434552-00434766 what is good right oh yeah no it has to piBKTgttDPM-02025-00434767-00434959 feel good like i don't think there's any piBKTgttDPM-02026-00434960-00435143 denying that piBKTgttDPM-02027-00435143-00435263 um piBKTgttDPM-02028-00435264-00435470 like we simply cannot expect people to piBKTgttDPM-02029-00435471-00435591 be super piBKTgttDPM-02030-00435592-00435887 super sacrificial like they should do piBKTgttDPM-02031-00435888-00436063 things that come easy to them or at piBKTgttDPM-02032-00436064-00436191 least we should make it as easy as piBKTgttDPM-02033-00436192-00436431 possible we have to make sure that they piBKTgttDPM-02034-00436432-00436599 indeed care about it that they feel piBKTgttDPM-02035-00436600-00436766 passionate about it but like those are piBKTgttDPM-02036-00436767-00436991 all nice bonuses like the whole idea the piBKTgttDPM-02037-00436992-00437191 whole thing why why humans are amazing piBKTgttDPM-02038-00437192-00437407 is that they actually care like empathy piBKTgttDPM-02039-00437408-00437647 is just a trick to get you to do nice piBKTgttDPM-02040-00437647-00437807 things and as a result you feel good piBKTgttDPM-02041-00437808-00437910 about it piBKTgttDPM-02042-00437912-00438110 if we don't have that empathy then piBKTgttDPM-02043-00438112-00438303 actually it's not going to happen so piBKTgttDPM-02044-00438304-00438543 this alignment is what we need and is piBKTgttDPM-02045-00438543-00438855 what we need to promote as well piBKTgttDPM-02046-00438856-00438935 okay piBKTgttDPM-02047-00438935-00439127 uh willem you do have a piBKTgttDPM-02048-00439128-00439431 reaction i i do i i think piBKTgttDPM-02049-00439432-00439631 moral realism is true so i think you're piBKTgttDPM-02050-00439632-00439783 wrong there but i don't really want to piBKTgttDPM-02051-00439784-00439991 talk to you about that at all piBKTgttDPM-02052-00439992-00440175 you just want me to know okay piBKTgttDPM-02053-00440176-00440375 um no i have a question about the idea piBKTgttDPM-02054-00440376-00440622 that altruism is so you said it's one of piBKTgttDPM-02055-00440623-00440775 the things that motivates us but isn't piBKTgttDPM-02056-00440776-00440959 particularly fundamental and i'm kind of piBKTgttDPM-02057-00440960-00441175 just kind of curious on what grounds you piBKTgttDPM-02058-00441176-00441343 can really make that basis because so i piBKTgttDPM-02059-00441343-00441503 remember this this episode from friends piBKTgttDPM-02060-00441504-00441710 right everybody knows that it's phoebe piBKTgttDPM-02061-00441712-00441951 phoebe and then phoebe lets a bing sting piBKTgttDPM-02062-00441952-00442110 beasting her but it turns out that then piBKTgttDPM-02063-00442112-00442343 b dies and it's very hard to observe piBKTgttDPM-02064-00442343-00442639 altruism kind of like in in the purest piBKTgttDPM-02065-00442639-00442855 form or whatever um but it's also in piBKTgttDPM-02066-00442856-00443047 general just very difficult to really piBKTgttDPM-02067-00443047-00443255 know i mean what truly motivates people piBKTgttDPM-02068-00443256-00443399 right and it seems to me that altruism piBKTgttDPM-02069-00443400-00443543 is always kind of mixed in there people piBKTgttDPM-02070-00443543-00443775 do want to do things that are good for piBKTgttDPM-02071-00443776-00443943 others it seems piBKTgttDPM-02072-00443943-00444095 and and then it seems to me like and piBKTgttDPM-02073-00444096-00444295 surely status is always involved as well piBKTgttDPM-02074-00444296-00444439 but so why piBKTgttDPM-02075-00444439-00444614 do you say that status is somehow more piBKTgttDPM-02076-00444615-00444814 fundamental than than ultra than piBKTgttDPM-02077-00444815-00445022 altruism because it seems to me a bit piBKTgttDPM-02078-00445023-00445247 puzzling yeah yeah uh piBKTgttDPM-02079-00445247-00445431 okay first thing i think this is funny piBKTgttDPM-02080-00445432-00445703 coming from the effect of altruist piBKTgttDPM-02081-00445704-00445959 because uh it's as a rule so obvious piBKTgttDPM-02082-00445960-00446231 that we clearly are not uh fundamentally piBKTgttDPM-02083-00446232-00446414 driven by like pure altruism in any piBKTgttDPM-02084-00446415-00446679 sense or like true altruism i know but piBKTgttDPM-02085-00446680-00446863 uh that's sort of my point though like piBKTgttDPM-02086-00446864-00447135 the fact that we are not super effective piBKTgttDPM-02087-00447135-00447247 altruists piBKTgttDPM-02088-00447247-00447447 means there are other motives at play piBKTgttDPM-02089-00447447-00447655 rather than the altruism itself that's piBKTgttDPM-02090-00447656-00447751 one piBKTgttDPM-02091-00447752-00447918 uh the second thing i want to say about piBKTgttDPM-02092-00447919-00448083 that is that piBKTgttDPM-02093-00448084-00448391 the distinction between proximate and piBKTgttDPM-02094-00448392-00448607 ultimate explanations uh you can very piBKTgttDPM-02095-00448608-00448807 easily confuse them like piBKTgttDPM-02096-00448808-00449022 uh status could be just a proximate piBKTgttDPM-02097-00449023-00449279 explanation as well like oh i want to uh piBKTgttDPM-02098-00449280-00449543 volunteer because i know i'll be liked piBKTgttDPM-02099-00449543-00449783 or i know there's a girl that also does piBKTgttDPM-02100-00449784-00449910 it and you know what i'm going to do it piBKTgttDPM-02101-00449912-00450118 and get these benefits as well and then piBKTgttDPM-02102-00450119-00450239 that then we're actually talking about piBKTgttDPM-02103-00450239-00450391 the approximate level piBKTgttDPM-02104-00450392-00450670 but then um to me that stands still not piBKTgttDPM-02105-00450671-00450879 really satisfying because then i'm like piBKTgttDPM-02106-00450880-00451247 okay but why is this then um appealing piBKTgttDPM-02107-00451247-00451503 to you like why do you want this status piBKTgttDPM-02108-00451504-00451710 and then we do get eventually to the piBKTgttDPM-02109-00451712-00451927 evolutionary story and then that's why piBKTgttDPM-02110-00451928-00452079 it's ultimate because that and because piBKTgttDPM-02111-00452080-00452279 then i will not ask the why anymore piBKTgttDPM-02112-00452280-00452510 because evolutionary explanations are piBKTgttDPM-02113-00452512-00452670 just like oh this thing randomly piBKTgttDPM-02114-00452671-00452870 happened it gets selected for and that piBKTgttDPM-02115-00452871-00453183 is the answer to the question piBKTgttDPM-02116-00453184-00453335 i think we can have a villain versus piBKTgttDPM-02117-00453335-00453495 william debate piBKTgttDPM-02118-00453496-00453639 for the rest of the day piBKTgttDPM-02119-00453639-00453799 but time's up i want to move on so thank piBKTgttDPM-02120-00453800-00454366 you very much willem all right piBKTgttDPM-02121-00454367-00454575 and i want to ask the four uh persons piBKTgttDPM-02122-00454576-00454751 from the forshund organization to come piBKTgttDPM-02123-00454752-00454927 forward you know i've what i very much piBKTgttDPM-02124-00454928-00455055 like is that sometimes we have these piBKTgttDPM-02125-00455056-00455247 sessions and then we have speakers and piBKTgttDPM-02126-00455247-00455503 they're all like oh i agree with you yes piBKTgttDPM-02127-00455504-00455663 i agree with you and they basically say piBKTgttDPM-02128-00455664-00455839 the same and now we really have three piBKTgttDPM-02129-00455839-00455975 really different speakers so i think piBKTgttDPM-02130-00455976-00456143 that was already great piBKTgttDPM-02131-00456143-00456310 and much food for thought so in the end piBKTgttDPM-02132-00456312-00456479 we're curious to hear your input but piBKTgttDPM-02133-00456480-00456751 first we're going to turn to these four piBKTgttDPM-02134-00456752-00456879 persons piBKTgttDPM-02135-00456880-00457047 so they all represent a different piBKTgttDPM-02136-00457047-00457303 student organization they all volunteer piBKTgttDPM-02137-00457304-00457543 themselves but also make an appeal on piBKTgttDPM-02138-00457543-00457831 other students as in you to volunteer piBKTgttDPM-02139-00457832-00458079 with them i guess so we're briefly going piBKTgttDPM-02140-00458080-00458222 to hear from them who they are what piBKTgttDPM-02141-00458223-00458414 organization they represent and my piBKTgttDPM-02142-00458415-00458639 question is why should they piBKTgttDPM-02143-00458639-00458847 volunteer with you piBKTgttDPM-02144-00458847-00459055 and then we have a few statements that piBKTgttDPM-02145-00459056-00459231 we're going to discuss first with them piBKTgttDPM-02146-00459232-00459470 but then also with you uh on this topic piBKTgttDPM-02147-00459471-00459863 so johan can i start with you sure piBKTgttDPM-02148-00459864-00460135 i'm yeah i'm johan i'm a master student piBKTgttDPM-02149-00460135-00460343 here at the university and i'm here uh piBKTgttDPM-02150-00460343-00460551 for fiat day christian student piBKTgttDPM-02151-00460552-00460766 association here on piBKTgttDPM-02152-00460767-00460887 here in the city piBKTgttDPM-02153-00460888-00461007 um piBKTgttDPM-02154-00461008-00461231 yeah why you should volunteer with us piBKTgttDPM-02155-00461232-00461407 well because it's uh piBKTgttDPM-02156-00461408-00461679 it's just so huge so because it's useful piBKTgttDPM-02157-00461680-00461895 for the society and because uh it's piBKTgttDPM-02158-00461896-00462095 great fun yeah piBKTgttDPM-02159-00462096-00462318 okay piBKTgttDPM-02160-00462319-00462487 i'm loyce i'm a piBKTgttDPM-02161-00462488-00462766 bachelor student sociology and also i'm piBKTgttDPM-02162-00462767-00463175 volunteering at surfboard city tilburg piBKTgttDPM-02163-00463176-00463343 yeah it's uh piBKTgttDPM-02164-00463343-00463551 so the city tilburg does various piBKTgttDPM-02165-00463552-00463695 activities for piBKTgttDPM-02166-00463696-00463903 people in tilburg piBKTgttDPM-02167-00463904-00464207 i think it's a lot of fun to meet other piBKTgttDPM-02168-00464208-00464399 students but also other people in piBKTgttDPM-02169-00464400-00464751 tilburg and i'm in a group that does piBKTgttDPM-02170-00464752-00465070 activities for elderly so it also feels piBKTgttDPM-02171-00465071-00465422 really good to do something for society piBKTgttDPM-02172-00465423-00465791 yeah and it's a lot of fun also piBKTgttDPM-02173-00465792-00465999 hi my name is tessa i'm a student of piBKTgttDPM-02174-00466000-00466207 liberal arts and sciences and this year piBKTgttDPM-02175-00466208-00466518 also vice chairman of student party sam piBKTgttDPM-02176-00466519-00466703 where we represent the over 20 000 piBKTgttDPM-02177-00466704-00466863 students of tilburg university in the piBKTgttDPM-02178-00466864-00467103 university council and of course you piBKTgttDPM-02179-00467104-00467303 should volunteer with us because you're piBKTgttDPM-02180-00467304-00467559 most likely a student yourself and by piBKTgttDPM-02181-00467560-00467695 working with us piBKTgttDPM-02182-00467696-00467895 and you can help us find initiatives to piBKTgttDPM-02183-00467896-00468055 actually improve the study climate and piBKTgttDPM-02184-00468056-00468191 improve the university to your own piBKTgttDPM-02185-00468192-00468479 benefit piBKTgttDPM-02186-00468480-00468679 i i didn't know we knew we had to piBKTgttDPM-02187-00468680-00468903 promote ourselves but uh hi piBKTgttDPM-02188-00468904-00469214 hi malu um i will be uh representing the piBKTgttDPM-02189-00469215-00469463 red cross today uh i'm the chairman of piBKTgttDPM-02190-00469464-00469647 the red girl student desk and it's a piBKTgttDPM-02191-00469647-00469910 charity organization um let my students piBKTgttDPM-02192-00469912-00470214 it's a branch of the red cross um piBKTgttDPM-02193-00470215-00470527 yeah i love humans just as william says piBKTgttDPM-02194-00470528-00470799 and if you do as well piBKTgttDPM-02195-00470800-00471095 join the red cross or something piBKTgttDPM-02196-00471096-00471310 all right thank you very much did you piBKTgttDPM-02197-00471312-00471470 already keep track of the reasons why piBKTgttDPM-02198-00471471-00471639 you should help volunteering huh so it piBKTgttDPM-02199-00471639-00471807 started off with it's fun it's fun so piBKTgttDPM-02200-00471808-00472055 that definitely taps into the uh your piBKTgttDPM-02201-00472056-00472310 own feeling argument and it gradually piBKTgttDPM-02202-00472312-00472575 went more into do good for society piBKTgttDPM-02203-00472576-00472783 so depending on what you are interested piBKTgttDPM-02204-00472784-00472959 in and where on the level of altruism piBKTgttDPM-02205-00472960-00473175 you are i think you know now which piBKTgttDPM-02206-00473176-00473551 organization to join um let me go to the piBKTgttDPM-02207-00473552-00473735 clicker thing piBKTgttDPM-02208-00473735-00473975 so we have four statements piBKTgttDPM-02209-00473976-00474166 but it may be a bit too much to discuss piBKTgttDPM-02210-00474167-00474318 all of them so i want to move to move to piBKTgttDPM-02211-00474319-00474575 the second piBKTgttDPM-02212-00474576-00474799 because one of the big debates is does piBKTgttDPM-02213-00474800-00475031 pure altruism exist piBKTgttDPM-02214-00475032-00475247 and and the whole discussion on like piBKTgttDPM-02215-00475247-00475407 okay yeah you can be altruistic with us piBKTgttDPM-02216-00475408-00475543 because it's also fun already it taps piBKTgttDPM-02217-00475543-00475647 into the question is it really piBKTgttDPM-02218-00475647-00475759 altruistic piBKTgttDPM-02219-00475760-00475847 so piBKTgttDPM-02220-00475847-00476014 imagine here's a case for all of you piBKTgttDPM-02221-00476015-00476207 imagine that you are taking care of piBKTgttDPM-02222-00476208-00476407 someone close to you who has serious piBKTgttDPM-02223-00476408-00476583 addiction problems piBKTgttDPM-02224-00476584-00476751 and is looking for the next fix and piBKTgttDPM-02225-00476752-00476935 damages everyone around them in the piBKTgttDPM-02226-00476935-00477031 process piBKTgttDPM-02227-00477032-00477207 good continuing to care for such a piBKTgttDPM-02228-00477208-00477439 person be valid evidence of real piBKTgttDPM-02229-00477439-00477631 altruism somehow i have to think of the piBKTgttDPM-02230-00477632-00477927 red cross i don't know why piBKTgttDPM-02231-00477928-00478527 what do you think piBKTgttDPM-02232-00478528-00478759 okay there are multiple factors piBKTgttDPM-02233-00478760-00478951 because it's a friend piBKTgttDPM-02234-00478952-00479039 um piBKTgttDPM-02235-00479039-00479310 right yeah someone who's close to you um piBKTgttDPM-02236-00479312-00479470 so i think piBKTgttDPM-02237-00479471-00479670 that kind of altruism is different than piBKTgttDPM-02238-00479671-00480159 for example if you um piBKTgttDPM-02239-00480160-00480303 apply this case on piBKTgttDPM-02240-00480304-00480479 on a group of piBKTgttDPM-02241-00480480-00480695 addicts for example piBKTgttDPM-02242-00480696-00480887 is this uh piBKTgttDPM-02243-00480888-00481087 evidence of altruism in a way it is i piBKTgttDPM-02244-00481088-00481295 think it is if you piBKTgttDPM-02245-00481296-00481503 continue caring for someone piBKTgttDPM-02246-00481504-00481622 but piBKTgttDPM-02247-00481623-00481791 i don't maybe someone else could start piBKTgttDPM-02248-00481792-00481966 off because i didn't have time to think piBKTgttDPM-02249-00481967-00482191 but no problem maybe serve the city yeah piBKTgttDPM-02250-00482192-00482366 you're also trying to help homeless piBKTgttDPM-02251-00482367-00482655 people among others and addicts piBKTgttDPM-02252-00482656-00482791 um piBKTgttDPM-02253-00482792-00483110 well first of all i think it's piBKTgttDPM-02254-00483112-00483439 up to debate what care for means piBKTgttDPM-02255-00483439-00483639 um piBKTgttDPM-02256-00483639-00484022 because you can care for someone um piBKTgttDPM-02257-00484023-00484335 by doing what they want uh what piBKTgttDPM-02258-00484335-00484559 but also what they really need and maybe piBKTgttDPM-02259-00484560-00484766 they don't know themselves what they piBKTgttDPM-02260-00484767-00484855 need piBKTgttDPM-02261-00484856-00484935 so piBKTgttDPM-02262-00484935-00485207 yeah it's quite a difficult question piBKTgttDPM-02263-00485208-00485622 also because what care for means piBKTgttDPM-02264-00485623-00485883 and also if you're altruistic if that piBKTgttDPM-02265-00485884-00485991 means um piBKTgttDPM-02266-00485992-00486183 just for one person for this friend or piBKTgttDPM-02267-00486184-00486335 for the other ones piBKTgttDPM-02268-00486335-00486599 so yeah piBKTgttDPM-02269-00486600-00486703 we can notice that we're at the piBKTgttDPM-02270-00486704-00486870 university when we don't start to answer piBKTgttDPM-02271-00486871-00487047 the question but we're just discussing piBKTgttDPM-02272-00487047-00487710 definitions uh what do we exactly mean piBKTgttDPM-02273-00487712-00487895 why is it important piBKTgttDPM-02274-00487896-00488031 because piBKTgttDPM-02275-00488032-00488207 whenever you talk about something you piBKTgttDPM-02276-00488208-00488383 want to know what you're talking about piBKTgttDPM-02277-00488384-00488607 in the first place because if i'm piBKTgttDPM-02278-00488608-00488887 talking about uh you care for someone piBKTgttDPM-02279-00488888-00489095 that means i just care about them i piBKTgttDPM-02280-00489096-00489327 think about them from time to time and piBKTgttDPM-02281-00489328-00489607 care for means taking care of them like piBKTgttDPM-02282-00489608-00489783 giving them medicine piBKTgttDPM-02283-00489784-00489983 being next to them all the time that's piBKTgttDPM-02284-00489984-00490414 two different things i mean piBKTgttDPM-02285-00490415-00490591 thank you very much i mean i'm i was a piBKTgttDPM-02286-00490592-00490807 bit skeptical but of course my piBKTgttDPM-02287-00490808-00491110 my professorship hat is really happy now piBKTgttDPM-02288-00491112-00491335 that all of you are such good students piBKTgttDPM-02289-00491335-00491495 um piBKTgttDPM-02290-00491496-00491735 let's let's just let's just do a raise piBKTgttDPM-02291-00491735-00492014 of hands then who of you thinks that if piBKTgttDPM-02292-00492015-00492199 you continue to care for such a person piBKTgttDPM-02293-00492200-00492591 that really is pure altruism piBKTgttDPM-02294-00492592-00493047 pure altruism true alterative altruism piBKTgttDPM-02295-00493047-00493391 yeah yeah oh okay yeah yeah great thanks piBKTgttDPM-02296-00493392-00493559 um could you briefly elaborate or piBKTgttDPM-02297-00493560-00493775 explain why piBKTgttDPM-02298-00493776-00494007 um yeah i think because the intention is piBKTgttDPM-02299-00494008-00494214 there like maybe it's not effective piBKTgttDPM-02300-00494215-00494383 altruism and maybe they don't go the piBKTgttDPM-02301-00494384-00494631 extra mile to find out what's good piBKTgttDPM-02302-00494632-00494831 um assuming that we're not speaking piBKTgttDPM-02303-00494832-00494999 about tough love piBKTgttDPM-02304-00495000-00495191 but then the intention was there to do piBKTgttDPM-02305-00495192-00495503 good so i think it speaks of altruism piBKTgttDPM-02306-00495504-00495718 okay thank you the intention matters piBKTgttDPM-02307-00495719-00495991 anyone who really disagreed piBKTgttDPM-02308-00495992-00496279 who wants to explain why piBKTgttDPM-02309-00496280-00496814 they're in the back piBKTgttDPM-02310-00496815-00497087 um so it doesn't have to be pure piBKTgttDPM-02311-00497088-00497359 altruism it could be duty or avoiding piBKTgttDPM-02312-00497360-00497627 shame or some kind of piBKTgttDPM-02313-00497628-00497870 overarching benefit that they're getting piBKTgttDPM-02314-00497871-00498118 from it it doesn't have to be altruistic piBKTgttDPM-02315-00498119-00498422 at all piBKTgttDPM-02316-00498423-00498583 okay thank you that's i guess the more piBKTgttDPM-02317-00498584-00498775 nihilistic perspective that we're piBKTgttDPM-02318-00498776-00498959 getting back again huh i think i think piBKTgttDPM-02319-00498960-00499207 willem will be proud um piBKTgttDPM-02320-00499208-00499383 let's go to uh let's go to the next piBKTgttDPM-02321-00499384-00499575 question because we have here uh piBKTgttDPM-02322-00499576-00499743 fraction sam as well piBKTgttDPM-02323-00499743-00500055 and um piBKTgttDPM-02324-00500056-00500279 when you get into volunteering one of piBKTgttDPM-02325-00500280-00500495 the things we discussed um in the piBKTgttDPM-02326-00500496-00500687 several in the different talks was that piBKTgttDPM-02327-00500688-00500903 we tend to sometimes piBKTgttDPM-02328-00500904-00501103 want to volunteer and help other people piBKTgttDPM-02329-00501104-00501279 but then also we want to help some piBKTgttDPM-02330-00501280-00501447 people more than others piBKTgttDPM-02331-00501447-00501614 some people are more worthy of taking piBKTgttDPM-02332-00501615-00501799 care of and of course as a more piBKTgttDPM-02333-00501800-00502047 political organization if i may position piBKTgttDPM-02334-00502047-00502231 you a little bit like that you may also piBKTgttDPM-02335-00502232-00502495 sometimes perhaps look more after some piBKTgttDPM-02336-00502496-00502703 people than towards others so how do you piBKTgttDPM-02337-00502704-00502918 look at this piBKTgttDPM-02338-00502919-00503199 i mean i guess so because of course as a piBKTgttDPM-02339-00503200-00503375 student organization we look more piBKTgttDPM-02340-00503376-00503703 towards what's beneficial for students piBKTgttDPM-02341-00503704-00503903 and sometimes we may forget to look at piBKTgttDPM-02342-00503904-00504103 what's beneficial for professors or piBKTgttDPM-02343-00504104-00504447 staff of the university um so yeah of piBKTgttDPM-02344-00504447-00504599 course there's always some sort of piBKTgttDPM-02345-00504600-00504727 perspective piBKTgttDPM-02346-00504728-00504966 you're representing a group of people piBKTgttDPM-02347-00504967-00505118 you're thinking about what do they want piBKTgttDPM-02348-00505119-00505295 what do they want to achieve piBKTgttDPM-02349-00505296-00505487 what can be bad for them piBKTgttDPM-02350-00505488-00505799 um so yeah i mean piBKTgttDPM-02351-00505800-00505951 if you want to piBKTgttDPM-02352-00505952-00506135 do the best for everyone of course it's piBKTgttDPM-02353-00506135-00506303 important to not be too political you piBKTgttDPM-02354-00506304-00506462 have to look at what's the view for piBKTgttDPM-02355-00506463-00506639 everyone and it was also the case i piBKTgttDPM-02356-00506639-00506814 think in the former case piBKTgttDPM-02357-00506815-00507143 where we set about helping a friend um piBKTgttDPM-02358-00507143-00507310 who's actually sort of piBKTgttDPM-02359-00507312-00507503 demolishing everything around them piBKTgttDPM-02360-00507504-00507639 because of their addiction you have to piBKTgttDPM-02361-00507639-00507862 ask yourself is what you're doing truly piBKTgttDPM-02362-00507863-00508047 helping them or are you doing this piBKTgttDPM-02363-00508047-00508247 because they are that person piBKTgttDPM-02364-00508247-00508359 um piBKTgttDPM-02365-00508360-00508447 i mean piBKTgttDPM-02366-00508447-00508662 yeah it's all the questions it has many piBKTgttDPM-02367-00508663-00508910 different aspects as well uh but i think piBKTgttDPM-02368-00508912-00509103 it's important to not be too political piBKTgttDPM-02369-00509104-00509214 but of course piBKTgttDPM-02370-00509215-00509351 there it's also important that you do piBKTgttDPM-02371-00509352-00509495 have a stance and that there's piBKTgttDPM-02372-00509496-00509766 representation on behalf of every group piBKTgttDPM-02373-00509767-00509966 i mean we can't represent both the piBKTgttDPM-02374-00509967-00510199 student and the uh maybe the staff piBKTgttDPM-02375-00510200-00510366 perspective so piBKTgttDPM-02376-00510367-00510551 i guess in a sense it is great that piBKTgttDPM-02377-00510552-00510766 there are parties who represent these piBKTgttDPM-02378-00510767-00510918 certain people because they're in close piBKTgttDPM-02379-00510919-00511070 contact maybe because they have these piBKTgttDPM-02380-00511071-00511518 same beliefs so yeah that's what i think piBKTgttDPM-02381-00511519-00511783 all right well and then if i can uh link piBKTgttDPM-02382-00511784-00511991 it again a bit to the war that we at the piBKTgttDPM-02383-00511992-00512110 moment have piBKTgttDPM-02384-00512112-00512199 uh piBKTgttDPM-02385-00512200-00512359 and then to the red cross let me this piBKTgttDPM-02386-00512360-00512487 time give you a little bit more time to piBKTgttDPM-02387-00512488-00512679 think piBKTgttDPM-02388-00512680-00512870 um piBKTgttDPM-02389-00512871-00513055 for the red cross piBKTgttDPM-02390-00513056-00513207 should they be political should they piBKTgttDPM-02391-00513208-00513351 make a decision on whether or not they piBKTgttDPM-02392-00513352-00513575 support ukraine or should they be open piBKTgttDPM-02393-00513576-00513759 to both ukraine and russia no matter piBKTgttDPM-02394-00513760-00514143 what piBKTgttDPM-02395-00514143-00514383 yeah with a russian example and that's piBKTgttDPM-02396-00514384-00514535 more difficult but piBKTgttDPM-02397-00514535-00514622 um piBKTgttDPM-02398-00514623-00514887 as speaking of the red cross the piBKTgttDPM-02399-00514888-00515070 organization itself piBKTgttDPM-02400-00515071-00515222 one of its piBKTgttDPM-02401-00515223-00515470 fundamental principles is that it's uh piBKTgttDPM-02402-00515471-00515735 impartial and it's uh neutral piBKTgttDPM-02403-00515735-00516007 um and also if you see if you look into piBKTgttDPM-02404-00516008-00516207 our history i think it's very important piBKTgttDPM-02405-00516208-00516287 that piBKTgttDPM-02406-00516288-00516439 um piBKTgttDPM-02407-00516439-00516751 the red cross remains this neutral party piBKTgttDPM-02408-00516752-00516991 and this impartial party piBKTgttDPM-02409-00516992-00517110 organization piBKTgttDPM-02410-00517112-00517375 um to help everyone and to not choose a piBKTgttDPM-02411-00517376-00517503 side because piBKTgttDPM-02412-00517504-00517727 if you choose a site for example the piBKTgttDPM-02413-00517728-00517879 political side you piBKTgttDPM-02414-00517880-00517991 automatically piBKTgttDPM-02415-00517992-00518083 leave out piBKTgttDPM-02416-00518084-00518195 others um piBKTgttDPM-02417-00518196-00518383 [Music] piBKTgttDPM-02418-00518384-00518551 and i piBKTgttDPM-02419-00518552-00518718 uh piBKTgttDPM-02420-00518719-00518966 yeah now they had a campaign where they piBKTgttDPM-02421-00518967-00519231 raised money for ukraine and to help piBKTgttDPM-02422-00519232-00519470 ukrainian refugees piBKTgttDPM-02423-00519471-00519839 i think that's really important but i do piBKTgttDPM-02424-00519839-00520070 think if we strive for this piBKTgttDPM-02425-00520071-00520383 impartiality and this neutrality that we piBKTgttDPM-02426-00520384-00520575 also need to piBKTgttDPM-02427-00520576-00520743 help piBKTgttDPM-02428-00520743-00521007 all parties so russia in this example as piBKTgttDPM-02429-00521008-00521159 well piBKTgttDPM-02430-00521160-00521543 in certain ways i don't know yet how piBKTgttDPM-02431-00521543-00521622 but piBKTgttDPM-02432-00521623-00521822 the conclusion is the beauty of the piBKTgttDPM-02433-00521823-00521983 organization is piBKTgttDPM-02434-00521984-00522222 to help everyone and to not exclude piBKTgttDPM-02435-00522223-00522614 exclude someone um or groups of people piBKTgttDPM-02436-00522615-00522710 yeah piBKTgttDPM-02437-00522712-00522895 all right thank you uh john and i'm piBKTgttDPM-02438-00522896-00523095 turning to you because representing a piBKTgttDPM-02439-00523096-00523247 christian piBKTgttDPM-02440-00523247-00523383 organization piBKTgttDPM-02441-00523384-00523479 um piBKTgttDPM-02442-00523480-00523743 wouldn't you say that you are primarily piBKTgttDPM-02443-00523743-00523959 serving those who are christian and who piBKTgttDPM-02444-00523960-00524183 have the same identity and therefore are piBKTgttDPM-02445-00524184-00524414 also quite political piBKTgttDPM-02446-00524415-00524687 yeah in a way in a way we cater to piBKTgttDPM-02447-00524688-00524855 christian students and people who are piBKTgttDPM-02448-00524856-00525047 interested in christian religion and piBKTgttDPM-02449-00525048-00525247 christianity as a whole so piBKTgttDPM-02450-00525248-00525391 in that sense we piBKTgttDPM-02451-00525392-00525551 are kind of political if you want to piBKTgttDPM-02452-00525552-00525870 call it like that um piBKTgttDPM-02453-00525871-00526166 but we are in that sense not per se a piBKTgttDPM-02454-00526167-00526351 charity organization like the red cross piBKTgttDPM-02455-00526352-00526543 so i don't think that in our case that piBKTgttDPM-02456-00526544-00526670 is a problem piBKTgttDPM-02457-00526671-00526791 i think piBKTgttDPM-02458-00526792-00526918 as long as you piBKTgttDPM-02459-00526919-00527095 respect other parties that that can be piBKTgttDPM-02460-00527096-00527383 an addition and can be an piBKTgttDPM-02461-00527384-00527599 added value to for example university piBKTgttDPM-02462-00527600-00527918 life in this case piBKTgttDPM-02463-00527919-00528079 and overall i think piBKTgttDPM-02464-00528080-00528214 um that piBKTgttDPM-02465-00528215-00528375 a charity organization like you said piBKTgttDPM-02466-00528376-00528670 will always have some kind of political piBKTgttDPM-02467-00528671-00528822 uh value or angle because you're piBKTgttDPM-02468-00528823-00528975 operating from an piBKTgttDPM-02469-00528976-00529207 from an ideology and that ideology can piBKTgttDPM-02470-00529208-00529422 be neutrality so every life matters as piBKTgttDPM-02471-00529423-00529695 much as anyone else even if it's russian piBKTgttDPM-02472-00529696-00530014 or ukrainian for that example piBKTgttDPM-02473-00530015-00530279 but you're still working from piBKTgttDPM-02474-00530280-00530551 an a perspective a framework so you're piBKTgttDPM-02475-00530552-00530718 always having some kind of political piBKTgttDPM-02476-00530719-00530855 ideological piBKTgttDPM-02477-00530856-00531127 uh way of thinking that that piBKTgttDPM-02478-00531128-00531383 is fundamental to your organization so piBKTgttDPM-02479-00531384-00531518 in my opinion piBKTgttDPM-02480-00531519-00531711 is it important for charity not to be piBKTgttDPM-02481-00531712-00531870 political i think it depends on what you piBKTgttDPM-02482-00531871-00532118 want to do but you always will be in piBKTgttDPM-02483-00532119-00532343 some sense piBKTgttDPM-02484-00532344-00532551 okay thank you very much anyone here who piBKTgttDPM-02485-00532552-00532687 has very strong thoughts on this piBKTgttDPM-02486-00532688-00532807 statement piBKTgttDPM-02487-00532808-00533022 wants to yeah there in the back piBKTgttDPM-02488-00533023-00533614 let me go towards you piBKTgttDPM-02489-00533615-00533879 um yeah i think it can be idealistic to piBKTgttDPM-02490-00533880-00534062 say that we should never have a piBKTgttDPM-02491-00534063-00534214 political piBKTgttDPM-02492-00534215-00534487 um ideology for charity because at the piBKTgttDPM-02493-00534488-00534718 end of the day like humans are motivated piBKTgttDPM-02494-00534719-00534927 by specific piBKTgttDPM-02495-00534928-00535127 you know intrinsic drives and for a lot piBKTgttDPM-02496-00535128-00535303 of people that's going to be a political piBKTgttDPM-02497-00535304-00535439 cause like if you're piBKTgttDPM-02498-00535440-00535583 you know if it's for fellow christians piBKTgttDPM-02499-00535584-00535679 or for piBKTgttDPM-02500-00535680-00535966 fellow any religion or any race or piBKTgttDPM-02501-00535967-00536135 whether you're helping people because piBKTgttDPM-02502-00536136-00536399 you're similar to them or because you i piBKTgttDPM-02503-00536400-00536559 know someone who is impacted by that i piBKTgttDPM-02504-00536560-00536783 think politics are always going to drive piBKTgttDPM-02505-00536784-00537095 people and that it's a bit idealistic to piBKTgttDPM-02506-00537096-00537270 claim to ever be completely neutral piBKTgttDPM-02507-00537271-00537487 because it would be impossible to piBKTgttDPM-02508-00537488-00537831 justify why you're doing things piBKTgttDPM-02509-00537832-00538070 so so if i understand you correctly you piBKTgttDPM-02510-00538071-00538239 say it's actually your identity and your piBKTgttDPM-02511-00538240-00538535 politics that can drive you to become piBKTgttDPM-02512-00538536-00538662 altruistic piBKTgttDPM-02513-00538663-00538839 right um piBKTgttDPM-02514-00538840-00539039 i have to each time go completely to the piBKTgttDPM-02515-00539040-00539287 back it's good for my exercise piBKTgttDPM-02516-00539288-00539422 there we go piBKTgttDPM-02517-00539423-00539583 sorry about that piBKTgttDPM-02518-00539584-00539814 i think it's also depending on what kind piBKTgttDPM-02519-00539815-00540087 of charity it is it's it's a little bit piBKTgttDPM-02520-00540088-00540247 what you said also piBKTgttDPM-02521-00540248-00540495 also i think it's about the course piBKTgttDPM-02522-00540496-00540783 the the goals you have with your charity piBKTgttDPM-02523-00540784-00541087 whatever politics or non-politics you piBKTgttDPM-02524-00541088-00541311 you have i think so i think that's also piBKTgttDPM-02525-00541312-00541527 important piBKTgttDPM-02526-00541528-00541831 okay thank you very much um i suggest piBKTgttDPM-02527-00541832-00542079 that we then move on to piBKTgttDPM-02528-00542080-00542311 the next statement piBKTgttDPM-02529-00542312-00542695 and that has to do with piBKTgttDPM-02530-00542696-00542959 a recent report by the united nations piBKTgttDPM-02531-00542960-00543175 volunteers program flynn you may be piBKTgttDPM-02532-00543176-00543414 familiar with this one um i don't know piBKTgttDPM-02533-00543415-00543687 if you even wrote it yourself but um piBKTgttDPM-02534-00543688-00543903 it shows it in europe women take on most piBKTgttDPM-02535-00543904-00544318 of the volunteer work at around 66 piBKTgttDPM-02536-00544319-00544583 why is that piBKTgttDPM-02537-00544584-00544911 i guess well lois i mean so i have some piBKTgttDPM-02538-00544912-00545070 connection with the city and so i piBKTgttDPM-02539-00545071-00545207 sometimes see what you're doing and what piBKTgttDPM-02540-00545208-00545407 strikes me is that it's always women piBKTgttDPM-02541-00545408-00545614 over there um which may be a reason for piBKTgttDPM-02542-00545615-00545775 men to also volunteer but then it's not piBKTgttDPM-02543-00545776-00546022 altruistic i guess anymore but why do piBKTgttDPM-02544-00546023-00546143 you think that is the case that there piBKTgttDPM-02545-00546144-00546295 are so many women who would take part in piBKTgttDPM-02546-00546296-00546487 search city piBKTgttDPM-02547-00546488-00546703 um piBKTgttDPM-02548-00546704-00546887 well yeah i think that's quite a piBKTgttDPM-02549-00546888-00547095 difficult question um piBKTgttDPM-02550-00547096-00547295 i see that so the city most of them are piBKTgttDPM-02551-00547296-00547655 women there are men of course piBKTgttDPM-02552-00547656-00547822 yeah maybe piBKTgttDPM-02553-00547823-00548175 for me on a personal note piBKTgttDPM-02554-00548176-00548295 maybe piBKTgttDPM-02555-00548296-00548422 historically piBKTgttDPM-02556-00548423-00548631 women did more piBKTgttDPM-02557-00548632-00548814 part-time work and men more full-time piBKTgttDPM-02558-00548815-00549087 work now it's not that piBKTgttDPM-02559-00549088-00549343 black and white anymore um piBKTgttDPM-02560-00549344-00549703 but i think maybe sometimes when you piBKTgttDPM-02561-00549704-00549847 daughters look more towards their piBKTgttDPM-02562-00549848-00550007 mothers and piBKTgttDPM-02563-00550008-00550214 sons more towards their fathers i think piBKTgttDPM-02564-00550215-00550470 maybe that can be an explanation piBKTgttDPM-02565-00550471-00550703 i don't know for sure um piBKTgttDPM-02566-00550704-00550862 yeah but piBKTgttDPM-02567-00550863-00551047 it's always piBKTgttDPM-02568-00551048-00551295 interesting to see piBKTgttDPM-02569-00551296-00551447 why this is and piBKTgttDPM-02570-00551448-00551639 yeah i don't know piBKTgttDPM-02571-00551640-00551791 okay milo you raise your hand do you piBKTgttDPM-02572-00551792-00551943 want to weigh in piBKTgttDPM-02573-00551944-00552159 yeah piBKTgttDPM-02574-00552160-00552414 yeah um piBKTgttDPM-02575-00552415-00552591 because i think it's a shame that not a piBKTgttDPM-02576-00552592-00552783 lot of men do volunteer work and indeed piBKTgttDPM-02577-00552784-00553014 we also see it in our organization piBKTgttDPM-02578-00553015-00553287 so man come on but piBKTgttDPM-02579-00553288-00553518 i think it's also um piBKTgttDPM-02580-00553519-00553783 maybe in a sense that um piBKTgttDPM-02581-00553784-00553966 it's kind of a piBKTgttDPM-02582-00553967-00554343 stereotype that women are the character piBKTgttDPM-02583-00554344-00554639 giving persons and maybe history-wise as piBKTgttDPM-02584-00554640-00554839 well and that's this stigma around women piBKTgttDPM-02585-00554840-00555062 in volunteering work that maybe leave piBKTgttDPM-02586-00555063-00555159 men piBKTgttDPM-02587-00555160-00555255 um piBKTgttDPM-02588-00555256-00555599 yeah outside that but they i piBKTgttDPM-02589-00555600-00555951 i don't know what this this gender did piBKTgttDPM-02590-00555952-00556159 i'm not the perfect person for a panel piBKTgttDPM-02591-00556160-00556422 because my mind goes piBKTgttDPM-02592-00556423-00556518 um piBKTgttDPM-02593-00556519-00556622 so yeah piBKTgttDPM-02594-00556623-00557183 yeah piBKTgttDPM-02595-00557184-00557391 feline you also focus on your research piBKTgttDPM-02596-00557392-00557566 on volunteering inclusion is there piBKTgttDPM-02597-00557567-00557759 anything you have to say about this or piBKTgttDPM-02598-00557760-00557887 can't say piBKTgttDPM-02599-00557888-00558087 well i'm kind of surprised by this piBKTgttDPM-02600-00558088-00558207 actually because if we look at the piBKTgttDPM-02601-00558208-00558383 numbers in the netherlands we see that piBKTgttDPM-02602-00558384-00558575 it's kind of similar piBKTgttDPM-02603-00558576-00558703 but and piBKTgttDPM-02604-00558704-00558879 by i think it's interesting that you all piBKTgttDPM-02605-00558880-00559095 see it in your organizations piBKTgttDPM-02606-00559096-00559270 or at least you said so and you said so piBKTgttDPM-02607-00559271-00559375 i think piBKTgttDPM-02608-00559376-00559559 might depend on the kind of volunteering piBKTgttDPM-02609-00559560-00559718 work that you're offering and the piBKTgttDPM-02610-00559719-00559895 beneficiaries that you're surfing piBKTgttDPM-02611-00559896-00560095 because what we're seeing for example piBKTgttDPM-02612-00560096-00560262 is that in the netherlands piBKTgttDPM-02613-00560263-00560607 men do a lot of volunteering in boards piBKTgttDPM-02614-00560608-00560775 and in sports piBKTgttDPM-02615-00560776-00561143 and women do a lot of volunteering in piBKTgttDPM-02616-00561144-00561359 schools and in piBKTgttDPM-02617-00561360-00561535 healthcare for example piBKTgttDPM-02618-00561536-00561759 so those are big differences and here piBKTgttDPM-02619-00561760-00561943 with the un i'm wondering what they piBKTgttDPM-02620-00561944-00562207 count as volunteer piBKTgttDPM-02621-00562208-00562543 volunteering hours because sometimes piBKTgttDPM-02622-00562544-00562799 what also is included in volunteer hours piBKTgttDPM-02623-00562800-00562903 is piBKTgttDPM-02624-00562904-00563062 voluntary care piBKTgttDPM-02625-00563063-00563303 and voluntary housework piBKTgttDPM-02626-00563304-00563543 and if we of course look at piBKTgttDPM-02627-00563544-00563783 care and housework then we still see a piBKTgttDPM-02628-00563784-00563959 very big imbalance piBKTgttDPM-02629-00563960-00564175 and we see that women take most care of piBKTgttDPM-02630-00564176-00564270 that piBKTgttDPM-02631-00564271-00564470 i wonder i i don't think the un will piBKTgttDPM-02632-00564471-00564735 actually do that i hope not but piBKTgttDPM-02633-00564736-00564887 i don't know so we go from questions piBKTgttDPM-02634-00564888-00565087 about definitions about questions about piBKTgttDPM-02635-00565088-00565335 methods and operationalizations are piBKTgttDPM-02636-00565336-00565527 there any men here who have any thought piBKTgttDPM-02637-00565528-00565727 on the matter piBKTgttDPM-02638-00565728-00566087 or piBKTgttDPM-02639-00566088-00566375 um i think it's quite interesting also piBKTgttDPM-02640-00566376-00566559 and there's research on piBKTgttDPM-02641-00566560-00566847 how you know men are especially piBKTgttDPM-02642-00566848-00567183 resistant to adept and to eat vegetarian piBKTgttDPM-02643-00567184-00567407 cuisine for example and i think like in piBKTgttDPM-02644-00567408-00567559 this paper this suggests that it's piBKTgttDPM-02645-00567560-00567855 because this signaling of being piBKTgttDPM-02646-00567856-00568070 vegetarian or signaling of helping it's piBKTgttDPM-02647-00568071-00568351 considered to be warm or gentle or piBKTgttDPM-02648-00568352-00568551 feminine and men piBKTgttDPM-02649-00568552-00568783 a lot of men don't want them to be piBKTgttDPM-02650-00568784-00568991 associated with this kind of like piBKTgttDPM-02651-00568992-00569231 stereotypes or so on or piBKTgttDPM-02652-00569232-00569414 you know and i think it's particularly piBKTgttDPM-02653-00569415-00569662 something we can work on because you piBKTgttDPM-02654-00569663-00569831 know helping is not supposed to be piBKTgttDPM-02655-00569832-00570070 feminine it's gender neutral it should piBKTgttDPM-02656-00570071-00570518 be piBKTgttDPM-02657-00570519-00570775 i hear some people uploading quietly so piBKTgttDPM-02658-00570776-00570910 i think people agree i think this was piBKTgttDPM-02659-00570911-00571031 also the point that you were trying to piBKTgttDPM-02660-00571032-00571143 make right piBKTgttDPM-02661-00571144-00571303 yes so thank you piBKTgttDPM-02662-00571304-00571559 i think i think this this case has been piBKTgttDPM-02663-00571560-00571783 dealt with so we have a last one piBKTgttDPM-02664-00571784-00571959 um well it has been perfectly addressed piBKTgttDPM-02665-00571960-00572199 right so the last one is that nowadays piBKTgttDPM-02666-00572200-00572343 we are used to receiving financial piBKTgttDPM-02667-00572344-00572510 compensation for our work which may piBKTgttDPM-02668-00572511-00572647 prevent many people from starting to piBKTgttDPM-02669-00572648-00572862 volunteer however one thing that i piBKTgttDPM-02670-00572863-00573014 learned from today is that actually you piBKTgttDPM-02671-00573015-00573295 can get paid while volunteering piBKTgttDPM-02672-00573296-00573487 great when you're a student especially piBKTgttDPM-02673-00573488-00573591 um piBKTgttDPM-02674-00573592-00573727 but piBKTgttDPM-02675-00573728-00573895 as we also know from researchers at the piBKTgttDPM-02676-00573896-00574039 moment that you start to pay people for piBKTgttDPM-02677-00574040-00574199 something they don't want to do it for piBKTgttDPM-02678-00574200-00574487 free anymore so that means that it can piBKTgttDPM-02679-00574488-00574670 also cause piBKTgttDPM-02680-00574671-00574903 volunteering to become not so attractive piBKTgttDPM-02681-00574904-00575022 so how can we make sure that piBKTgttDPM-02682-00575023-00575247 volunteering still remains attractive to piBKTgttDPM-02683-00575248-00575527 as large a group of possible piBKTgttDPM-02684-00575528-00575710 even if you don't pay them piBKTgttDPM-02685-00575711-00575870 is there anyone in the audience who has piBKTgttDPM-02686-00575871-00576183 any ideas on this matter yes piBKTgttDPM-02687-00576184-00576655 i first go there and then i go there piBKTgttDPM-02688-00576656-00576879 thank you piBKTgttDPM-02689-00576880-00577055 i think that as much as we want true piBKTgttDPM-02690-00577056-00577295 altruism you can get more volunteers by piBKTgttDPM-02691-00577296-00577462 playing up all the other reasons people piBKTgttDPM-02692-00577463-00577583 volunteer piBKTgttDPM-02693-00577584-00577783 so emphasizing that you're going to feel piBKTgttDPM-02694-00577784-00577927 good about yourself and you can build up piBKTgttDPM-02695-00577928-00578207 your your cv you can make friends that piBKTgttDPM-02696-00578208-00578375 all the other reasons that we already piBKTgttDPM-02697-00578376-00578662 use to volunteer if we emphasize those piBKTgttDPM-02698-00578663-00578783 it will encourage more and more people piBKTgttDPM-02699-00578784-00578975 to volunteer because true altruism piBKTgttDPM-02700-00578976-00579143 evidently doesn't do enough if we're piBKTgttDPM-02701-00579144-00579279 just saying help because it's the right piBKTgttDPM-02702-00579280-00579518 thing so yep piBKTgttDPM-02703-00579519-00579670 so there needs to be something in it for piBKTgttDPM-02704-00579671-00579766 them piBKTgttDPM-02705-00579767-00579927 right piBKTgttDPM-02706-00579928-00580151 all right piBKTgttDPM-02707-00580152-00580407 this way piBKTgttDPM-02708-00580408-00580559 thank you piBKTgttDPM-02709-00580560-00580759 i think it has a big connection with piBKTgttDPM-02710-00580760-00580991 seeing the results by yourself like piBKTgttDPM-02711-00580992-00581310 working on something and giving all piBKTgttDPM-02712-00581311-00581599 your power and involvement and time and piBKTgttDPM-02713-00581600-00581735 emotions piBKTgttDPM-02714-00581736-00582014 and then being able to see the results piBKTgttDPM-02715-00582015-00582103 that you piBKTgttDPM-02716-00582104-00582295 you're actually piBKTgttDPM-02717-00582296-00582559 you've achieved i think that's really piBKTgttDPM-02718-00582560-00583055 really important at least in my case piBKTgttDPM-02719-00583056-00583222 okay so i was looking back and seeing piBKTgttDPM-02720-00583223-00583343 like hey what has it brought you and piBKTgttDPM-02721-00583344-00583887 what has it given to you piBKTgttDPM-02722-00583888-00584175 to the others as well okay um you know piBKTgttDPM-02723-00584176-00584583 one you have uh piBKTgttDPM-02724-00584584-00584743 i would like to react i think it's also piBKTgttDPM-02725-00584744-00584935 the other way around we are nowadays piBKTgttDPM-02726-00584936-00585110 used to receiving financial compensation piBKTgttDPM-02727-00585111-00585270 people also have to survive have to work piBKTgttDPM-02728-00585271-00585439 for the money i think that's also piBKTgttDPM-02729-00585440-00585583 partially why you see in your research piBKTgttDPM-02730-00585584-00585759 that piBKTgttDPM-02731-00585760-00585991 people who are volunteering are mostly piBKTgttDPM-02732-00585992-00586143 universe piBKTgttDPM-02733-00586144-00586391 university educated and rich because piBKTgttDPM-02734-00586392-00586527 they have more time they have more piBKTgttDPM-02735-00586528-00586766 opportunity to volunteer so i think if piBKTgttDPM-02736-00586767-00586966 you want to make volunteering more piBKTgttDPM-02737-00586967-00587199 attractive i would say that supporting piBKTgttDPM-02738-00587200-00587343 the piBKTgttDPM-02739-00587344-00587566 the lower side of piBKTgttDPM-02740-00587567-00587791 society from governmental standpoint piBKTgttDPM-02741-00587792-00587983 will make also piBKTgttDPM-02742-00587984-00588199 more time available for volunteering piBKTgttDPM-02743-00588200-00588383 because people piBKTgttDPM-02744-00588384-00588527 don't have it on their minds because piBKTgttDPM-02745-00588528-00588783 they're busy with paying rent and piBKTgttDPM-02746-00588784-00588943 surviving piBKTgttDPM-02747-00588944-00589351 so that was something i want to add piBKTgttDPM-02748-00589352-00589431 and piBKTgttDPM-02749-00589432-00589647 at some you you do get paid right when piBKTgttDPM-02750-00589648-00589839 you are piBKTgttDPM-02751-00589840-00589966 part of the piBKTgttDPM-02752-00589967-00590166 school council among others piBKTgttDPM-02753-00590167-00590262 right piBKTgttDPM-02754-00590263-00590487 how how important is that part you think piBKTgttDPM-02755-00590488-00590975 among your volunteers piBKTgttDPM-02756-00590976-00591279 so um yeah our council members do indeed piBKTgttDPM-02757-00591280-00591551 get paid we have a lot of very ambitious piBKTgttDPM-02758-00591552-00591718 and hard-working committee members that piBKTgttDPM-02759-00591719-00591959 do in fact not get paid who are still do piBKTgttDPM-02760-00591960-00592118 very much willing to do a lot of work piBKTgttDPM-02761-00592119-00592287 for us piBKTgttDPM-02762-00592288-00592622 how important is it that we get paid um piBKTgttDPM-02763-00592623-00592751 i don't think it matters that much piBKTgttDPM-02764-00592752-00592935 honestly when i was recruited for doing piBKTgttDPM-02765-00592936-00593103 a board here i didn't know i was gonna piBKTgttDPM-02766-00593104-00593231 get paid piBKTgttDPM-02767-00593232-00593343 um piBKTgttDPM-02768-00593344-00593462 and i think piBKTgttDPM-02769-00593463-00593647 you know you already sort of said it but piBKTgttDPM-02770-00593648-00593855 you really have to sort of target things piBKTgttDPM-02771-00593856-00594007 to the specific group that you want to piBKTgttDPM-02772-00594008-00594199 volunteer that you want to work with i piBKTgttDPM-02773-00594200-00594431 think students generally are not a group piBKTgttDPM-02774-00594432-00594670 that have a lot of money to maybe donate piBKTgttDPM-02775-00594671-00594847 but they are a group that may be willing piBKTgttDPM-02776-00594848-00595118 to provide help in other ways piBKTgttDPM-02777-00595119-00595335 yeah to give to the community so instead piBKTgttDPM-02778-00595336-00595583 of giving money they'll volunteer piBKTgttDPM-02779-00595584-00595735 and i think you can play on these piBKTgttDPM-02780-00595736-00595951 intrinsic factors so the fact that piBKTgttDPM-02781-00595952-00596191 humans are naturally i believe at least piBKTgttDPM-02782-00596192-00596455 inclined to help others but also provide piBKTgttDPM-02783-00596456-00596670 extrinsic factors so piBKTgttDPM-02784-00596671-00596839 students are very busy with preparing piBKTgttDPM-02785-00596840-00597039 themselves for the labor market nowadays piBKTgttDPM-02786-00597040-00597199 we have to make ourselves look more and piBKTgttDPM-02787-00597200-00597343 more unique to be attractive to piBKTgttDPM-02788-00597344-00597599 companies and i think actually providing piBKTgttDPM-02789-00597600-00597822 things that give give a status such as a piBKTgttDPM-02790-00597823-00598062 better cv building up a network at these piBKTgttDPM-02791-00598063-00598262 organizations is something that can piBKTgttDPM-02792-00598263-00598431 motivate this specific group of students piBKTgttDPM-02793-00598432-00598887 very much piBKTgttDPM-02794-00598888-00599118 yeah you can ask for something piBKTgttDPM-02795-00599119-00599199 so piBKTgttDPM-02796-00599200-00599479 if we implement the effective altruism piBKTgttDPM-02797-00599480-00599575 in it piBKTgttDPM-02798-00599576-00599862 let me ask you a question piBKTgttDPM-02799-00599863-00600103 are you prepared to for example piBKTgttDPM-02800-00600104-00600327 donate the money you get for your board piBKTgttDPM-02801-00600328-00600870 here to charity piBKTgttDPM-02802-00600871-00601095 yes piBKTgttDPM-02803-00601096-00601327 i must say look the thing is um we do piBKTgttDPM-02804-00601328-00601543 get money for our board here indeed and piBKTgttDPM-02805-00601544-00601766 i don't use it for like a lot of my piBKTgttDPM-02806-00601767-00601966 personal things of course i use it to piBKTgttDPM-02807-00601967-00602135 buy food because otherwise i wouldn't be piBKTgttDPM-02808-00602136-00602391 sitting here right now piBKTgttDPM-02809-00602392-00602559 but yeah i think we put a lot of the piBKTgttDPM-02810-00602560-00602703 money that we get from the university piBKTgttDPM-02811-00602704-00602951 actually into the work that we do so in piBKTgttDPM-02812-00602952-00603166 a sense we put the money we get from the piBKTgttDPM-02813-00603167-00603366 university back into representing those piBKTgttDPM-02814-00603367-00603703 students and doing that well so i guess piBKTgttDPM-02815-00603704-00603999 sort of yeah yeah piBKTgttDPM-02816-00604000-00604270 i am very happy that you buy food piBKTgttDPM-02817-00604271-00604543 for yourself yes very altruistic maybe piBKTgttDPM-02818-00604544-00604766 not pure altruistic but it's very good piBKTgttDPM-02819-00604767-00604918 um it's about time piBKTgttDPM-02820-00604919-00605166 to wrap up so first let me thank very piBKTgttDPM-02821-00605167-00605327 much the four students standing here piBKTgttDPM-02822-00605328-00606007 please give them a very big ovation piBKTgttDPM-02823-00606008-00606166 i want to thank the three speakers flynn piBKTgttDPM-02824-00606167-00606631 and william and willem piBKTgttDPM-02825-00606632-00606839 so among others things that i learned piBKTgttDPM-02826-00606840-00607007 today is that there are many different piBKTgttDPM-02827-00607008-00607207 types of volunteering many different piBKTgttDPM-02828-00607208-00607447 reasons why people volunteer you can piBKTgttDPM-02829-00607448-00607614 even get paid for volunteering as piBKTgttDPM-02830-00607615-00607735 mentioned and then it's still called piBKTgttDPM-02831-00607736-00607903 volunteering as long as you get paid piBKTgttDPM-02832-00607904-00608039 less but i guess it's not the same as piBKTgttDPM-02833-00608040-00608318 doing an internship um i still do have piBKTgttDPM-02834-00608319-00608551 some questions there piBKTgttDPM-02835-00608552-00608751 i learned that we tend to be altruistic piBKTgttDPM-02836-00608752-00609055 towards what feels good piBKTgttDPM-02837-00609056-00609255 and what we have an emotional connection piBKTgttDPM-02838-00609256-00609487 to but that also prevents us from being piBKTgttDPM-02839-00609488-00609647 very effective piBKTgttDPM-02840-00609648-00609855 volunteers and making the world a better piBKTgttDPM-02841-00609856-00610014 place so we can maybe sometimes think a piBKTgttDPM-02842-00610015-00610222 bit harder about how can we really be piBKTgttDPM-02843-00610223-00610391 effective volunteers piBKTgttDPM-02844-00610392-00610591 i also learned today that apparently piBKTgttDPM-02845-00610592-00610879 altruism may be the result of evolution piBKTgttDPM-02846-00610880-00611095 it helps us surviving and as a piBKTgttDPM-02847-00611096-00611279 consequence we can even compete in being piBKTgttDPM-02848-00611280-00611518 the best altruists how cool is that for piBKTgttDPM-02849-00611519-00611775 all of us who are somewhat competitive piBKTgttDPM-02850-00611776-00611943 um piBKTgttDPM-02851-00611944-00612118 thank you all for being here thank you piBKTgttDPM-02852-00612119-00612327 so much for your participation and for 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pj7b-wkeRno-00079-00032449-00032595 thank you very much particular dia pj7b-wkeRno-00080-00032596-00033010 you're new or do I have to remember that pj7b-wkeRno-00081-00033011-00033387 in my mind you would be in the euro dia pj7b-wkeRno-00082-00033388-00034338 indeed alodia alright thank you guys pj7b-wkeRno-00083-00034339-00034644 thank you guys and alright so you can do pj7b-wkeRno-00084-00034645-00036111 your closing thank you thank you see you pj7b-wkeRno-00085-00036112-00036352 soon pjOAb6fWuQ0-00000-00000394-00000742 [Music] pldNW9JQgp4-00000-00000000-00000235 foreign pldNW9JQgp4-00001-00000236-00000550 [Applause] pmntaEhv7lM-00000-00000155-00000490 and gummy also named a gummy so gummy pmntaEhv7lM-00001-00000491-00000828 Tsugumi MO and our sand lo tennety is an pmntaEhv7lM-00002-00000830-00001039 and gummy Pachauri language spoken in pmntaEhv7lM-00003-00001040-00001231 the Naga Hills in the northeastern part pmntaEhv7lM-00004-00001232-00001540 of India in Colima district Nagaland in pmntaEhv7lM-00005-00001541-00001914 2001 there is an estimate of 125,000 pmntaEhv7lM-00006-00001915-00002155 first language l1 and gummy speakers pmntaEhv7lM-00007-00002156-00002475 under the UNESCO language vitality and pmntaEhv7lM-00008-00002476-00002680 endangerment framework and gummy is at pmntaEhv7lM-00009-00002681-00002988 the level of vulnerable meaning that it pmntaEhv7lM-00010-00002989-00003265 is still spoken by most children but may pmntaEhv7lM-00011-00003265-00003574 be restricted to certain domains there pmntaEhv7lM-00012-00003575-00003793 are several dialects the most prominent pmntaEhv7lM-00013-00003794-00004036 being Kuno dialect around kinoma village pmntaEhv7lM-00014-00004036-00004309 1080 aka Caffey dialect in the state pmntaEhv7lM-00015-00004310-00004495 capital of Colima and this way our pmntaEhv7lM-00016-00004496-00004727 southern dialect southern and gummy area pmntaEhv7lM-00017-00004728-00005050 others includes una Kahana cha chroma pmntaEhv7lM-00018-00005051-00005434 western and gummy NEMA nollie mozo 1080 pmntaEhv7lM-00019-00005435-00005625 is the prestige dialect used for pmntaEhv7lM-00020-00005626-00006002 publications and taught in the schools pmntaEhv7lM-00021-00006003-00006561 dialects ethnologue lists the following pmntaEhv7lM-00022-00006562-00006845 dialects of anga me 1080 is the cover pmntaEhv7lM-00023-00006847-00007077 term used for all the dialects spoken by pmntaEhv7lM-00024-00007078-00007412 the and ami people ethnologue pmntaEhv7lM-00025-00007413-00008312 DS una cadena canola cha chroma Western pmntaEhv7lM-00026-00008313-00009346 and gummy Nemeth nollie mozo 10g Mokoena pmntaEhv7lM-00027-00009347-00009608 the 10g mikuma dialect is the standard pmntaEhv7lM-00028-00009609-00009908 dialect the naga choukri and naga Chezza pmntaEhv7lM-00029-00009909-00010094 are Eastern and Gumby groups with their pmntaEhv7lM-00030-00010095-00010391 own dialect the two southern varieties pmntaEhv7lM-00031-00010392-00010559 visu Emma and Jack oma are not pmntaEhv7lM-00032-00010560-00010914 intelligible with the other dialects pmntaEhv7lM-00033-00010915-00011380 phonology pmntaEhv7lM-00034-00011381-00011881 bowels Colima dialect is reported to pmntaEhv7lM-00035-00011882-00012174 have five tones kinoma has four register pmntaEhv7lM-00036-00012175-00012520 tones with diacritics a AAA the lower pmntaEhv7lM-00037-00012521-00012735 three are approximately equally spaced pmntaEhv7lM-00038-00012736-00012919 in pitch while the topmost is more pmntaEhv7lM-00039-00012919-00013183 distant low tone may be accompanied by pmntaEhv7lM-00040-00013184-00013408 breathy voice especially at the end of pmntaEhv7lM-00041-00013409-00013632 an utterance pmntaEhv7lM-00042-00013633-00014047 and gummy has six vowels i ue o a pmntaEhv7lM-00043-00014049-00014511 phonetically i youth e o a diphthongs pmntaEhv7lM-00044-00014512-00014799 occur but are rare pmntaEhv7lM-00045-00014800-00015322 consonants this table represents the pmntaEhv7lM-00046-00015322-00015496 Continental structure of the kendama pmntaEhv7lM-00047-00015497-00015680 dialect pmntaEhv7lM-00048-00015681-00016100 other dialects also contrast TDF only pmntaEhv7lM-00049-00016101-00016385 occurs as an allophone of P the velar pmntaEhv7lM-00050-00016386-00016598 fricative is in free variation with h pmntaEhv7lM-00051-00016599-00016871 the post alveolar approximant SAR truly pmntaEhv7lM-00052-00016872-00017138 retroflex sub ethical before mid and low pmntaEhv7lM-00053-00017139-00017396 vowels but laminal before high vowels iu pmntaEhv7lM-00054-00017397-00017666 and gandhi voiceless nasals are unusual pmntaEhv7lM-00055-00017667-00017867 in that unlike the voiceless nasals of pmntaEhv7lM-00056-00017868-00018062 burmese they have a positive rather than pmntaEhv7lM-00057-00018063-00018425 negative voice onset time that is their pmntaEhv7lM-00058-00018426-00018622 aspirated rather than partially voiced pmntaEhv7lM-00059-00018623-00018941 the same is true of the laterals in both pmntaEhv7lM-00060-00018942-00019175 cases the aspiration has the formants pmntaEhv7lM-00061-00019176-00019388 characteristic of and ami h which is pmntaEhv7lM-00062-00019389-00019646 somewhat dealer in pronunciation the pmntaEhv7lM-00063-00019647-00019859 other voiceless approximants may not be pmntaEhv7lM-00064-00019860-00020090 aspirated as the H like formants occur pmntaEhv7lM-00065-00020091-00020285 during the entire hold of the consonant pmntaEhv7lM-00066-00020286-00020500 the labial and labia lized consonants pmntaEhv7lM-00067-00020501-00020696 have labia dental affricate allophones pmntaEhv7lM-00068-00020697-00020972 before but not in c consonant clusters pmntaEhv7lM-00069-00020973-00021275 in addition about half the time the road pmntaEhv7lM-00070-00021276-00021488 it becomes syllabic a rhotic vowel in pmntaEhv7lM-00071-00021489-00021715 this environment pmntaEhv7lM-00072-00021716-00021988 and gummy syllables may be of the form V pmntaEhv7lM-00073-00021989-00022459 CV or CV the tested clusters are P P ke pmntaEhv7lM-00074-00022460-00022670 ke pmntaEhv7lM-00075-00022671-00023261 grammar and lexicon a wealth of and pmntaEhv7lM-00076-00023262-00023501 Gumby grammars lexicons are available in pmntaEhv7lM-00077-00023502-00023768 tennety and in English however these pmntaEhv7lM-00078-00023769-00024143 collections often conflict in their pmntaEhv7lM-00079-00024144-00024329 analysis of the phonemic or syntactic pmntaEhv7lM-00080-00024330-00024593 nature of the language this is due to pmntaEhv7lM-00081-00024594-00024941 the difference at the time of the pmntaEhv7lM-00082-00024942-00025106 documentation and the choice of pmntaEhv7lM-00083-00025107-00025318 informants from varying dialect pmntaEhv7lM-00084-00025319-00025705 especially in the earlier language pmntaEhv7lM-00085-00025706-00026114 documentation x' 1870s to 1960s mostly pmntaEhv7lM-00086-00026114-00026320 by christian missionary their informants pmntaEhv7lM-00087-00026322-00026720 metadata were not specified in any pmntaEhv7lM-00088-00026720-00026924 dialect of and gummy were assumed to be pmntaEhv7lM-00089-00026925-00027101 the standard of an gummy within the pmntaEhv7lM-00090-00027102-00027364 Nagaland region the end on the english pmntaEhv7lM-00091-00027366-00027557 phrase book and and on the English Hindi pmntaEhv7lM-00092-00027558-00028020 dictionary available online pmntaEhv7lM-00093-00028022-00028602 text collection the bulk of available pmntaEhv7lM-00094-00028604-00028783 ana gummy texts are from printed pmntaEhv7lM-00095-00028783-00029032 materials novels poems and text books pmntaEhv7lM-00096-00029033-00029202 the largest text assortment of pmntaEhv7lM-00097-00029204-00029419 electronic texts are mostly Christian pmntaEhv7lM-00098-00029420-00029602 religious or devotional materials pmntaEhv7lM-00099-00029602-00029857 written in 1080 this is because the pmntaEhv7lM-00100-00029858-00030049 majority of and ami speakers in the pmntaEhv7lM-00101-00030050-00030304 novel and are Christians the complete pmntaEhv7lM-00102-00030305-00030583 1080 Bible was published in 1970 pmntaEhv7lM-00103-00030583-00030835 however only the translated chapter of pmntaEhv7lM-00104-00030836-00031033 Genesis from the Bible was posted on the pmntaEhv7lM-00105-00031033-00031336 internet under the Rosetta project also pmntaEhv7lM-00106-00031337-00031545 Christian devotional materials such as pmntaEhv7lM-00107-00031547-00031774 the Bible basically in 1080 are also pmntaEhv7lM-00108-00031775-00032052 available online pmntaEhv7lM-00109-00032054-00032305 another source of text is largely from pmntaEhv7lM-00110-00032306-00032554 the ethnic folktales eg and ami Naga pmntaEhv7lM-00111-00032555-00033064 folklore by secos 1970 and especially pmntaEhv7lM-00112-00033065-00033343 from song lyrics written in 1080 other pmntaEhv7lM-00113-00033344-00033538 than Christian songs written by the and pmntaEhv7lM-00114-00033539-00033967 gummy church community eg shishu Lee pmntaEhv7lM-00115-00033968-00034195 song book by Baptist revival Church the pmntaEhv7lM-00116-00034196-00034396 rising rock music culture started to pmntaEhv7lM-00117-00034397-00034552 stir in the novel and as the music pmntaEhv7lM-00118-00034553-00034768 events and societies like the hornbill pmntaEhv7lM-00119-00034769-00034987 national rock contest and Rattle and Hum pmntaEhv7lM-00120-00034988-00035269 music society and and ami pop rock bands pmntaEhv7lM-00121-00035270-00035464 such as the cultural vibrance take the pmntaEhv7lM-00122-00035465-00035701 and ami music by storm they popularized pmntaEhv7lM-00123-00035702-00035914 traditional and Gumby folk music that pmntaEhv7lM-00124-00035915-00036097 used to be passed down orally it is pmntaEhv7lM-00125-00036098-00036271 foreseeable that these lyrics will be pmntaEhv7lM-00126-00036272-00036546 written in the near future pmntaEhv7lM-00127-00036547-00036792 the next largest source of tennety is pmntaEhv7lM-00128-00036793-00037005 the educational materials used in the pmntaEhv7lM-00129-00037006-00037334 Colima schools in university pmntaEhv7lM-00130-00037335-00037541 although much of these texts are in pmntaEhv7lM-00131-00037542-00037757 printed forms a query on the web does pmntaEhv7lM-00132-00037758-00037970 retrieve some indian exams papers that pmntaEhv7lM-00133-00037971-00038276 contain test questions on tennety also pmntaEhv7lM-00134-00038277-00038486 the 1080 syllabus for the university pmntaEhv7lM-00135-00038487-00038666 courses in Colima college would have pmntaEhv7lM-00136-00038667-00038867 been the primary source of language data pmntaEhv7lM-00137-00038868-00039110 for and AMI pmntaEhv7lM-00138-00039111-00039899 see also and gummy nugget Tibet ik pmntaEhv7lM-00139-00039900-00040249 languages pmntaEhv7lM-00140-00040250-00040630 references pmntaEhv7lM-00141-00040631-00041231 bibliography blankenship Barbara Peter pmntaEhv7lM-00142-00041232-00041477 Ladda fo'get Perry Bhaskar Rao nickimja pmntaEhv7lM-00143-00041478-00041849 no chase June 1993 phonetic structures pmntaEhv7lM-00144-00041850-00042197 of Konoha and gummi fieldwork studies of pmntaEhv7lM-00145-00042198-00042509 targeted languages UCLA working papers pmntaEhv7lM-00146-00042510-00043215 in phonetics 84 to 127 - 141 pmntaEhv7lM-00147-00043216-00043632 notes pmntaEhv7lM-00148-00043633-00044233 external links Kannamma materials at pmntaEhv7lM-00149-00044234-00044845 UCLA and gummy language intro qoFdkhfpQn8-00000-00000037-00000296 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00001-00000297-00000996 [Applause] qoFdkhfpQn8-00002-00000997-00001387 well good more than YouTube so it is a qoFdkhfpQn8-00003-00001388-00001573 Saturday and it's quite a nice Saturday qoFdkhfpQn8-00004-00001574-00001776 in the UK sun's out qoFdkhfpQn8-00005-00001777-00001987 there you go shiny thing in in the sky qoFdkhfpQn8-00006-00001988-00002185 there and we're obviously still on qoFdkhfpQn8-00007-00002186-00002389 shutdown but what do you do when you're qoFdkhfpQn8-00008-00002390-00002755 bored and basically you can't do qoFdkhfpQn8-00009-00002756-00002976 anything go anywhere kind of get some qoFdkhfpQn8-00010-00002977-00003033 haircut qoFdkhfpQn8-00011-00003034-00003322 well you work on the car so today qoFdkhfpQn8-00012-00003322-00003703 working on the LD now if I just quickly qoFdkhfpQn8-00013-00003704-00003909 pop the bonnet up and just give me a qoFdkhfpQn8-00014-00003910-00003954 second qoFdkhfpQn8-00015-00003955-00004159 let's pull the bonnet there we go Bonnie qoFdkhfpQn8-00016-00004160-00004425 up so the job we've got to do today is a qoFdkhfpQn8-00017-00004426-00004618 really simple one I've got to change the qoFdkhfpQn8-00018-00004619-00004849 thermostat they want any of a car qoFdkhfpQn8-00019-00004850-00005181 another problem at all the problem I've qoFdkhfpQn8-00020-00005182-00005475 got though is underneath all this right qoFdkhfpQn8-00021-00005476-00005872 down there underneath for the inlet qoFdkhfpQn8-00022-00005873-00006222 manifold and all the gibbons in front of qoFdkhfpQn8-00023-00006223-00006429 it connects to the intercooler and qoFdkhfpQn8-00024-00006430-00006759 everything else there is a thermostat qoFdkhfpQn8-00025-00006761-00007248 now we just grab the film state itself qoFdkhfpQn8-00026-00007248-00007789 so all around the thermostat looks like qoFdkhfpQn8-00027-00007790-00008269 this it's a common fault with these when qoFdkhfpQn8-00028-00008270-00008560 they actually stick open lots of qoFdkhfpQn8-00029-00008561-00008785 thermostats do it on lots of cars but it qoFdkhfpQn8-00030-00008786-00009030 seems to be quite common on the others qoFdkhfpQn8-00031-00009031-00009271 now noticed recently every now and again qoFdkhfpQn8-00032-00009272-00009460 it doesn't get to 90 degrees and sit qoFdkhfpQn8-00033-00009461-00009715 there it's easy to get to about 85 and qoFdkhfpQn8-00034-00009716-00009892 sit there so obviously the one I've got qoFdkhfpQn8-00035-00009893-00010048 on at the moment is sticking so I've qoFdkhfpQn8-00036-00010049-00010207 bought a new one well it's been zip qoFdkhfpQn8-00037-00010208-00010501 about 25 quid for that but to get to it qoFdkhfpQn8-00038-00010502-00010663 I've got to take all the engine cover qoFdkhfpQn8-00039-00010664-00010918 off easy job I've then got to take all qoFdkhfpQn8-00040-00010919-00011224 the induction sign off so all the qoFdkhfpQn8-00041-00011225-00011436 induction manifolds got to come off qoFdkhfpQn8-00042-00011437-00011635 which is a good thing as well because qoFdkhfpQn8-00043-00011636-00011914 obviously he's been TFSI engines and qoFdkhfpQn8-00044-00011915-00012328 they do come up get rid up so I can also qoFdkhfpQn8-00045-00012329-00012520 clean it out at the same time so it's a qoFdkhfpQn8-00046-00012521-00012739 double whammy to be honest but literally qoFdkhfpQn8-00047-00012740-00012972 all the front end if the engines got to qoFdkhfpQn8-00048-00012973-00013252 come off so today my job is to do that qoFdkhfpQn8-00049-00013253-00013672 just to get down but hey qoFdkhfpQn8-00050-00013672-00013830 we've got nothing else better to do so qoFdkhfpQn8-00051-00013831-00014180 let's get crack on with it qoFdkhfpQn8-00052-00014181-00014206 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00053-00014207-00014572 [Applause] qoFdkhfpQn8-00054-00014572-00014821 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00055-00014822-00015099 you can rock and roll qoFdkhfpQn8-00056-00015100-00015288 time qoFdkhfpQn8-00057-00015290-00016071 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00058-00016072-00016243 okay qoFdkhfpQn8-00059-00016244-00016524 and qoFdkhfpQn8-00060-00016525-00017380 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00061-00017381-00017484 okay qoFdkhfpQn8-00062-00017485-00018424 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00063-00018425-00018742 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00064-00018743-00018816 okay qoFdkhfpQn8-00065-00018817-00019523 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00066-00019524-00019595 okay qoFdkhfpQn8-00067-00019596-00022230 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00068-00022231-00022399 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00069-00022400-00022497 [Applause] qoFdkhfpQn8-00070-00022498-00024018 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00071-00024019-00024390 yes qoFdkhfpQn8-00072-00024391-00024710 and qoFdkhfpQn8-00073-00024711-00025267 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00074-00025268-00025675 make me feel qoFdkhfpQn8-00075-00025676-00026813 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00076-00026814-00027710 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00077-00027711-00027789 okay qoFdkhfpQn8-00078-00027791-00029790 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00079-00029791-00030064 so of course it's also simplest jobs qoFdkhfpQn8-00080-00030065-00030271 that take the most time but getting qoFdkhfpQn8-00081-00030272-00030496 there slowly got the high pressure fuel qoFdkhfpQn8-00082-00030497-00030770 pump off and got the fuel Isis connected qoFdkhfpQn8-00083-00030770-00030982 and the charcoal lines disconnected qoFdkhfpQn8-00084-00030983-00031307 obviously all the induction systems come qoFdkhfpQn8-00085-00031308-00031901 off with the cover PC layoff so now I qoFdkhfpQn8-00086-00031902-00032107 think I've disconnected all the pipes I qoFdkhfpQn8-00087-00032108-00032339 need to disconnect got to get off the qoFdkhfpQn8-00088-00032339-00032608 intercooler pipe down there and then qoFdkhfpQn8-00089-00032609-00032804 hopefully you can start them doing the qoFdkhfpQn8-00090-00032805-00033182 manifold and it should come off as one qoFdkhfpQn8-00091-00033183-00033236 unit qoFdkhfpQn8-00092-00033237-00033920 we shall see let's get on with it well I qoFdkhfpQn8-00093-00033921-00034048 think I've got just about everything off qoFdkhfpQn8-00094-00034049-00034258 all the bolts out the manifold including qoFdkhfpQn8-00095-00034259-00034402 the ones to write down there in the qoFdkhfpQn8-00096-00034403-00034667 bottom and all the pipes all the qoFdkhfpQn8-00097-00034668-00035026 ancillary x' just got the charge called qoFdkhfpQn8-00098-00035027-00035674 a pipe there but it's still it's solid qoFdkhfpQn8-00099-00035675-00035817 on there did you see qoFdkhfpQn8-00100-00035818-00036090 so obviously missing something somewhere qoFdkhfpQn8-00101-00036091-00036424 so trying to have a quick coffee I think qoFdkhfpQn8-00102-00036425-00036632 I have a quick break and then come back qoFdkhfpQn8-00103-00036633-00036886 to it but yeah the moment I think I've qoFdkhfpQn8-00104-00036887-00037135 got all the bolts out I'm a little bit qoFdkhfpQn8-00105-00037136-00037405 perplexed oh hi it's not coming off qoFdkhfpQn8-00106-00037406-00037783 but there you go that is it's car qoFdkhfpQn8-00107-00037784-00037945 mechanics for you it's probably just qoFdkhfpQn8-00108-00037946-00038155 gummed on there to be honest but I don't qoFdkhfpQn8-00109-00038156-00038285 want to give it too much force because qoFdkhfpQn8-00110-00038286-00038555 that's not a good thing but yeah looking qoFdkhfpQn8-00111-00038556-00038848 around don't see anything obvious that's qoFdkhfpQn8-00112-00038849-00039023 holding it in place so give it five qoFdkhfpQn8-00113-00039024-00039248 minutes have a bit of a think and come qoFdkhfpQn8-00114-00039249-00039635 back to it so I think beyond this what qoFdkhfpQn8-00115-00039636-00039857 I've got to do is I got a centre for all qoFdkhfpQn8-00116-00039858-00040136 body off and I've got a feeling that I qoFdkhfpQn8-00117-00040137-00040315 thought I could just drop that charge qoFdkhfpQn8-00118-00040316-00040651 pipe but I have a strange sneaky feeling qoFdkhfpQn8-00119-00040652-00040829 because he loved all that see moving qoFdkhfpQn8-00120-00040830-00041123 slightly there's something actually on qoFdkhfpQn8-00121-00041124-00041419 that throttle body maybe a bracket or qoFdkhfpQn8-00122-00041420-00041644 something holding it on so you've got to qoFdkhfpQn8-00123-00041645-00041893 get underneath and yeah quickly look qoFdkhfpQn8-00124-00041894-00042124 about getting that throttle body off and qoFdkhfpQn8-00125-00042125-00042376 I think then it should all come off I'll qoFdkhfpQn8-00126-00042377-00042571 be honest it's been about six seven qoFdkhfpQn8-00127-00042572-00042726 years since I've actually done this job qoFdkhfpQn8-00128-00042727-00042951 so yeah kind of qoFdkhfpQn8-00129-00042952-00043323 muscle memories gone sir oh it's got qoFdkhfpQn8-00130-00043324-00043493 that charge wipe off and and see where qoFdkhfpQn8-00131-00043494-00043758 we are okay so I took the bottom plate qoFdkhfpQn8-00132-00043759-00043977 off and there's the charge called a pipe qoFdkhfpQn8-00133-00043978-00044358 here so I'm gonna take that off next not qoFdkhfpQn8-00134-00044359-00044627 entirely sure if there's a bracket up qoFdkhfpQn8-00135-00044628-00044768 there or not can't see a lot to be qoFdkhfpQn8-00136-00044769-00044996 honest we're gonna take it off I've got qoFdkhfpQn8-00137-00044997-00045135 a strange feeling in my head that it's qoFdkhfpQn8-00138-00045136-00045504 got to come off anyway I believe like I qoFdkhfpQn8-00139-00045505-00045627 say there's a bracket or something on qoFdkhfpQn8-00140-00045628-00045770 the throttle body that holds it all in qoFdkhfpQn8-00141-00045771-00046086 so it's not a big job there's a tox qoFdkhfpQn8-00142-00046087-00046655 there and obviously yeah a pipe there it qoFdkhfpQn8-00143-00046656-00046821 should come off quite easily I think so qoFdkhfpQn8-00144-00046822-00046989 right next job let's get that done qoFdkhfpQn8-00145-00046990-00047624 oh wow okay call the loose but qoFdkhfpQn8-00146-00047625-00047921 unfortunately with the fans on there's qoFdkhfpQn8-00147-00047922-00048279 nowhere for it to go much fancy checking qoFdkhfpQn8-00148-00048280-00048573 the fan shield off but it may come down qoFdkhfpQn8-00149-00048574-00048880 tonight boys saw in there qoFdkhfpQn8-00150-00048881-00049199 let me see we can move it about just to qoFdkhfpQn8-00151-00049200-00049568 get an idea of what's going on without qoFdkhfpQn8-00152-00049569-00049758 damaging the fans I can move it to one qoFdkhfpQn8-00153-00049759-00050070 side okay so that's gonna give me enough qoFdkhfpQn8-00154-00050071-00050268 room just to to get another look into qoFdkhfpQn8-00155-00050269-00050355 there and see what's what qoFdkhfpQn8-00156-00050356-00050733 well I got the pipe I'll get it back in qoFdkhfpQn8-00157-00050734-00051060 again yeah judge go the pipe out it's a qoFdkhfpQn8-00158-00051061-00051263 heavier unit faster with this plastic qoFdkhfpQn8-00159-00051264-00051805 hmm okay all right next challenge so I qoFdkhfpQn8-00160-00051807-00052023 tried to have a good look inside there qoFdkhfpQn8-00161-00052024-00052181 and I can't see much inside that rock qoFdkhfpQn8-00162-00052182-00052425 body and I am assuming though there's qoFdkhfpQn8-00163-00052426-00052580 something in there that's holding it so qoFdkhfpQn8-00164-00052582-00052976 it's got to come off I believe I'm gonna qoFdkhfpQn8-00165-00052977-00053100 get a torch on there and have a really qoFdkhfpQn8-00166-00053101-00053409 good look but I can see as a bowl at the qoFdkhfpQn8-00167-00053410-00053656 back how do they even hold me or not qoFdkhfpQn8-00168-00053657-00054080 it's a job to tell and but we should say qoFdkhfpQn8-00169-00054082-00054345 yes our garlic okay qoFdkhfpQn8-00171-00057949-00058195 well it's off and if I was to say that qoFdkhfpQn8-00172-00058196-00058429 was easy I'd be a big fat lawyer because qoFdkhfpQn8-00173-00058429-00058783 it wasn't and you see there you've gotta qoFdkhfpQn8-00174-00058784-00059002 kind of get right up inside there and qoFdkhfpQn8-00175-00059003-00059341 just try and get the screws one by one qoFdkhfpQn8-00176-00059341-00059688 it's some yeah and nothing's easy and I qoFdkhfpQn8-00177-00059689-00059995 think now what I'm seeing is holding it qoFdkhfpQn8-00178-00059996-00060354 is that 13 mil bolt there I think that's qoFdkhfpQn8-00179-00060355-00060610 the one holding the whole manifold on so qoFdkhfpQn8-00180-00060611-00060739 yeah you throttle bodies got to come off qoFdkhfpQn8-00181-00060740-00061171 to get to that we're getting there slow qoFdkhfpQn8-00182-00061172-00061357 progress nothing else better to do we're qoFdkhfpQn8-00183-00061358-00061429 on lockdown qoFdkhfpQn8-00184-00061429-00061912 alright next okay so yeah the 13 bills qoFdkhfpQn8-00185-00061913-00062232 off but there is a bolt right in there qoFdkhfpQn8-00186-00062233-00062911 spline bolt in there this is a phone so qoFdkhfpQn8-00187-00062912-00063141 the saga continues to get into that bolt qoFdkhfpQn8-00188-00063142-00063334 which means the dipstick tube is in the qoFdkhfpQn8-00189-00063335-00063646 way you've got to then set this bracket qoFdkhfpQn8-00190-00063647-00063787 support off here that is a four qoFdkhfpQn8-00191-00063788-00064210 millimeter good like that that's gotta qoFdkhfpQn8-00192-00064211-00064594 come out as you can see and then we qoFdkhfpQn8-00193-00064595-00064726 might be able to get a dipstick tube now qoFdkhfpQn8-00194-00064727-00064969 and actually get somewhere near a go let qoFdkhfpQn8-00195-00064970-00065154 me games right so that stood so that qoFdkhfpQn8-00196-00065155-00065503 means now the dipstick should just maybe qoFdkhfpQn8-00197-00065504-00065611 just move it to one side qoFdkhfpQn8-00198-00065612-00065956 Oh dogs are going crazy qoFdkhfpQn8-00199-00065957-00066489 nice nope dipstick should come out oh qoFdkhfpQn8-00200-00066490-00067222 please come out come on you all right qoFdkhfpQn8-00201-00067223-00067516 let's do this off camera and this is why qoFdkhfpQn8-00202-00067517-00067675 Andy my colleagues charge so much money qoFdkhfpQn8-00203-00067676-00067843 I've got to get that bolt out there to qoFdkhfpQn8-00204-00067844-00068140 try and free up that pipe that is in the qoFdkhfpQn8-00205-00068141-00068437 way of that spline drive in there - got qoFdkhfpQn8-00206-00068438-00068764 this mother fold off yeah we having fun qoFdkhfpQn8-00207-00068765-00069223 yet qoFdkhfpQn8-00209-00072642-00073064 so where are we then well it's ESP so qoFdkhfpQn8-00210-00073065-00073323 brackets everywhere get in these bolts qoFdkhfpQn8-00211-00073324-00073461 there these brackets that hold the pipes qoFdkhfpQn8-00212-00073462-00073638 on been an absolute nightmare I need to qoFdkhfpQn8-00213-00073639-00073857 get the folks at the way to get Eden to qoFdkhfpQn8-00214-00073858-00074112 let me out there absolute nightmare qoFdkhfpQn8-00215-00074113-00074403 yeah but I've just got a bracket off qoFdkhfpQn8-00216-00074404-00074553 this now obviously the water permits qoFdkhfpQn8-00217-00074554-00074769 gonna be changed so I'm trying to get qoFdkhfpQn8-00218-00074770-00075075 the main water pipe out qoFdkhfpQn8-00219-00075076-00075393 oh but what about itself like that hey qoFdkhfpQn8-00220-00075394-00075531 that's water qoFdkhfpQn8-00221-00075532-00075876 hoo-hoo-hoo right so I lose that pipe qoFdkhfpQn8-00222-00075877-00076248 out the way so in theory now I should be qoFdkhfpQn8-00223-00076249-00076404 able to get to that bowl in there and qoFdkhfpQn8-00224-00076405-00076794 the manifold should come off all good qoFdkhfpQn8-00225-00076795-00076919 fun qoFdkhfpQn8-00226-00076920-00077358 okay the bow is out so in theory you qoFdkhfpQn8-00227-00077359-00078180 might not function there come off this qoFdkhfpQn8-00228-00078181-00078387 still seems to be something holding it qoFdkhfpQn8-00229-00078388-00079035 oh okay deep breath maybe it's time for qoFdkhfpQn8-00230-00079036-00079314 another coffee love this will be really qoFdkhfpQn8-00231-00079315-00079671 simple yeah when they took one off last qoFdkhfpQn8-00232-00079672-00079929 time it didn't cause me this much qoFdkhfpQn8-00233-00079930-00080277 problem but there you go right to ends qoFdkhfpQn8-00234-00080278-00080477 let's do it properly qoFdkhfpQn8-00235-00080478-00082288 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00236-00082289-00083285 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00237-00083286-00083871 that's a quick five minute job oh hey qoFdkhfpQn8-00238-00083872-00084186 guys so yeah that's a that was holding qoFdkhfpQn8-00239-00084187-00084326 it I'm not breaking on the block qoFdkhfpQn8-00240-00084327-00084488 that's where the problem was of trying qoFdkhfpQn8-00241-00084489-00084609 to get the damn thing off but it's quite qoFdkhfpQn8-00242-00084610-00084786 tight on there let's give it a bit of a qoFdkhfpQn8-00243-00084787-00084987 wiggle I'll obviously loads of qoFdkhfpQn8-00244-00084988-00085457 electrical connectors as well which but qoFdkhfpQn8-00245-00085458-00086025 it's off so now my next job is one to qoFdkhfpQn8-00246-00086026-00086225 make sure I don't lose any of these qoFdkhfpQn8-00247-00086226-00086540 injector seals and stuff like that and qoFdkhfpQn8-00248-00086541-00087038 to get the water pump off which is just qoFdkhfpQn8-00249-00087039-00087279 there and that doesn't look a lot easier qoFdkhfpQn8-00250-00087280-00087474 than what I've just actually done so qoFdkhfpQn8-00251-00087475-00087800 this could be fun right I think first of qoFdkhfpQn8-00252-00087801-00088359 all it's it's a weather and brake so qoFdkhfpQn8-00253-00088360-00088731 there is the offending article and 210 qoFdkhfpQn8-00254-00088732-00088856 moves to hold it on button looks of it qoFdkhfpQn8-00255-00088857-00089055 and here's the new one that goes on it qoFdkhfpQn8-00256-00089056-00089340 say I've got the top pipe off just qoFdkhfpQn8-00257-00089341-00089462 taking that off qoFdkhfpQn8-00258-00089463-00089730 middle part goes in there with bolt and qoFdkhfpQn8-00259-00089731-00089991 there's a clip to hold the bottom one on qoFdkhfpQn8-00260-00089992-00090276 so they remove that clip hopefully get qoFdkhfpQn8-00261-00090277-00090585 that point down far enough and swap it qoFdkhfpQn8-00262-00090586-00090801 out all that work just to change your qoFdkhfpQn8-00263-00090802-00091119 fervor start it sprays it well I've got qoFdkhfpQn8-00264-00091120-00091269 a safe we were playing Top Trumps of qoFdkhfpQn8-00265-00091270-00091500 stupid ideas and he would win look at qoFdkhfpQn8-00266-00091501-00091638 that I mean it's a vault right in there qoFdkhfpQn8-00267-00091639-00091821 to hold the water Pete you can't get qoFdkhfpQn8-00268-00091822-00091998 your hand in there you can't get qoFdkhfpQn8-00269-00091999-00092138 anywhere near because the automate is in qoFdkhfpQn8-00270-00092139-00092444 the way it's just an almost impossible qoFdkhfpQn8-00271-00092445-00092487 task qoFdkhfpQn8-00272-00092488-00093003 eh are they really I mean come on don't qoFdkhfpQn8-00273-00093004-00093129 want to set the alternator off just to qoFdkhfpQn8-00274-00093130-00093366 get a bolt out for God so qoFdkhfpQn8-00275-00093367-00093734 this overthinking qoFdkhfpQn8-00276-00093735-00095322 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00277-00095323-00095443 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00278-00095444-00095647 so this is the gift that just keeps on qoFdkhfpQn8-00279-00095648-00096169 giving I've got it loose nice to get the qoFdkhfpQn8-00280-00096170-00096404 clip out there and it will not budge qoFdkhfpQn8-00281-00096405-00097313 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00282-00097314-00097728 finally all that effort for that so qoFdkhfpQn8-00283-00097729-00098139 that's where it sits and you can't get qoFdkhfpQn8-00284-00098140-00098388 the screws in it it's almost impossible qoFdkhfpQn8-00285-00098389-00098553 to get that bottom joint off because qoFdkhfpQn8-00286-00098554-00098844 it's solid in there hammer and chisel qoFdkhfpQn8-00287-00098845-00099209 mitt o sayyaa not easy not easy at all qoFdkhfpQn8-00288-00099210-00099411 so if you think you'd do this yourself qoFdkhfpQn8-00289-00099412-00099612 if you've got good mechanic who doesn't qoFdkhfpQn8-00290-00099613-00099930 charge much take it the win oh my word qoFdkhfpQn8-00291-00099931-00100176 there you go that's the thermistor right qoFdkhfpQn8-00292-00100177-00100407 definitely a break and definitely time qoFdkhfpQn8-00293-00100408-00100656 it's have a coffee sir I've got the new qoFdkhfpQn8-00294-00100657-00100827 one in place just the an Ambu will tast qoFdkhfpQn8-00295-00100828-00101024 me of getting the bolts in without some qoFdkhfpQn8-00296-00101025-00101340 pinching the seal behind it so you have qoFdkhfpQn8-00297-00101341-00101526 two hands needed catch you in a minute qoFdkhfpQn8-00298-00101527-00102027 and the water pump is on yeah wasn't too qoFdkhfpQn8-00299-00102028-00102396 difficult anyway next thing is I want to qoFdkhfpQn8-00300-00102397-00102732 clean up the induction side because qoFdkhfpQn8-00301-00102733-00102944 obviously it's a TFSI engine and he gets qoFdkhfpQn8-00302-00102945-00103109 all gunked up it's not that bud to be qoFdkhfpQn8-00303-00103110-00103248 honest but while I've got the manifold qoFdkhfpQn8-00304-00103249-00103617 off was it gonna be it clean and get a qoFdkhfpQn8-00305-00103618-00103808 bit more performance out of it right qoFdkhfpQn8-00306-00103809-00105129 let's get on with it I'd say what your qoFdkhfpQn8-00307-00105130-00105383 mum's toothbrush I hope you don't notice qoFdkhfpQn8-00308-00105384-00107574 [Laughter] qoFdkhfpQn8-00309-00107575-00107797 this is the more time-consuming bit qoFdkhfpQn8-00310-00107798-00107961 there you go I think you can see that qoFdkhfpQn8-00311-00107963-00108214 let's go right in there looking pretty qoFdkhfpQn8-00312-00108215-00108595 clean now getting there slowly looking qoFdkhfpQn8-00313-00108596-00108916 pretty clean happy with that well the qoFdkhfpQn8-00314-00108917-00109108 last swirl up to were to clean up and qoFdkhfpQn8-00315-00109108-00109267 yeah these were a bit crusty to be fair qoFdkhfpQn8-00316-00109268-00109461 so good job uh took them out and give qoFdkhfpQn8-00317-00109463-00109540 them a good cleanup qoFdkhfpQn8-00318-00109541-00109744 the rest have been done Platts obviously qoFdkhfpQn8-00319-00109745-00110020 the last one everybody else ease back in qoFdkhfpQn8-00320-00110021-00110218 there so I'll just drop one out there qoFdkhfpQn8-00321-00110219-00110685 looking rather nice then you go nice and qoFdkhfpQn8-00322-00110686-00110929 clean and there now so put the nice wolf qoFdkhfpQn8-00323-00110930-00111103 up in and they've figured out so putting qoFdkhfpQn8-00324-00111104-00111307 their Pig back together again first job qoFdkhfpQn8-00325-00111308-00111943 though coffee qoFdkhfpQn8-00327-00116497-00116616 [Laughter] qoFdkhfpQn8-00328-00116617-00117445 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00329-00117446-00117832 oh okay trying to crack on with things qoFdkhfpQn8-00330-00117833-00118083 rather than video a lot so I've got the qoFdkhfpQn8-00331-00118084-00118270 mother fall back on and now it's just qoFdkhfpQn8-00332-00118271-00118444 balling up everything and remembering qoFdkhfpQn8-00333-00118445-00118752 where it all goes again oh what a day it qoFdkhfpQn8-00334-00118753-00118983 took me pretty much all day I've been qoFdkhfpQn8-00335-00118984-00119100 out here since probably about nine qoFdkhfpQn8-00336-00119101-00119274 o'clock and I think it's about four qoFdkhfpQn8-00337-00119275-00119516 o'clock now so not finished yet and qoFdkhfpQn8-00338-00119517-00120058 still lots to do but the boy the water qoFdkhfpQn8-00339-00120058-00120247 firma suddenly said nearly said water qoFdkhfpQn8-00340-00120248-00120481 pump the water thermostat is on and that qoFdkhfpQn8-00341-00120482-00120646 was the main job and obviously cleaned qoFdkhfpQn8-00342-00120647-00120885 up all the inductions are as well which qoFdkhfpQn8-00343-00120886-00121134 these doing on TFSI engines fairly qoFdkhfpQn8-00344-00121135-00121444 regularly so productive day and let's qoFdkhfpQn8-00345-00121445-00121672 face it I'm not going anywhere so why qoFdkhfpQn8-00346-00121673-00122051 does it make the most of it qoFdkhfpQn8-00347-00122052-00124615 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00348-00124616-00124680 me qoFdkhfpQn8-00349-00124681-00125571 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00350-00125572-00126116 swimming qoFdkhfpQn8-00352-00130214-00131870 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00353-00131871-00132216 well I think I'm all this there I think qoFdkhfpQn8-00354-00132217-00132417 though much of this because vices we all qoFdkhfpQn8-00355-00132418-00132507 just want to get home and get it qoFdkhfpQn8-00356-00132508-00132786 finished it's not be easy certain least qoFdkhfpQn8-00357-00132787-00132963 but everything's about where it should qoFdkhfpQn8-00358-00132964-00133113 be just got the cover the put on the qoFdkhfpQn8-00359-00133114-00133541 spot loves in and the filter on and then qoFdkhfpQn8-00360-00133542-00134252 off we go so let's get it done qoFdkhfpQn8-00361-00134253-00134571 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00362-00134572-00135464 in love qoFdkhfpQn8-00363-00135465-00138429 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00364-00138430-00139941 ok it's all back together first start qoFdkhfpQn8-00365-00139942-00140248 whoa stop qoFdkhfpQn8-00366-00140249-00140744 you've got fuel spewing out from that qoFdkhfpQn8-00367-00140745-00140849 okay qoFdkhfpQn8-00368-00140850-00141079 fuel is not spraying at the way this qoFdkhfpQn8-00369-00141080-00141437 time so that's at least a benefit qoFdkhfpQn8-00370-00141438-00141581 ain't gonna sound that good because qoFdkhfpQn8-00371-00141582-00141913 Matt's off no we'll see if it does qoFdkhfpQn8-00372-00141914-00142143 anything this time qoFdkhfpQn8-00373-00142144-00144035 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00374-00144036-00146480 well it worked qoFdkhfpQn8-00375-00146481-00148445 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00376-00148446-00148690 [Music] qoFdkhfpQn8-00377-00148691-00149172 this has been a long long day I think qoFdkhfpQn8-00378-00149173-00150193 it's just hard to dump the tools qoFdkhfpQn8-00379-00150194-00153014 [Music] q0AVmDsn4lY-00000-00000013-00001491 [Music] q0AVmDsn4lY-00001-00001492-00002145 so q0AVmDsn4lY-00002-00002146-00004383 [Music] q0AVmDsn4lY-00003-00004384-00004592 you q0SYT0ALQSo-00000-00000006-00000200 you want answers I think I'm entitled q0SYT0ALQSo-00001-00000200-00000736 you and you can't handle the truth you q0SYT0ALQSo-00002-00000737-00000853 know what they put in the water don't q0SYT0ALQSo-00003-00000855-00001166 you fluoride on the pretext that it q0SYT0ALQSo-00004-00001167-00002606 strengthens your q0SYT0ALQSo-00005-00002607-00002892 his face did shine as the Sun and his q0SYT0ALQSo-00006-00002893-00003204 raiment was white as the night hey q0SYT0ALQSo-00007-00003204-00003372 what's up guys Gaughan's here for the q0SYT0ALQSo-00008-00003372-00003531 face like the Sun Channel there's a book q0SYT0ALQSo-00009-00003532-00003743 called between two ages written by q0SYT0ALQSo-00010-00003744-00004040 technocrat de big new Burzynski who just q0SYT0ALQSo-00011-00004042-00004262 recently passed away this was written in q0SYT0ALQSo-00012-00004263-00004539 1970 and here's what he said in it quote q0SYT0ALQSo-00013-00004540-00004782 the change is rocked by communications q0SYT0ALQSo-00014-00004783-00004917 and computers make for an q0SYT0ALQSo-00015-00004918-00005145 extraordinarily into woven society whose q0SYT0ALQSo-00016-00005146-00005322 members are in continuous and close q0SYT0ALQSo-00017-00005323-00005472 audio-visual contact q0SYT0ALQSo-00018-00005473-00005718 constantly interacting instantly sharing q0SYT0ALQSo-00019-00005719-00005934 the most intense social experiences and q0SYT0ALQSo-00020-00005935-00006090 prompted to increase personal q0SYT0ALQSo-00021-00006091-00006312 involvement in even the most distant q0SYT0ALQSo-00022-00006313-00006531 problems a new generation no longer q0SYT0ALQSo-00023-00006531-00006741 defines the world exclusively on the q0SYT0ALQSo-00024-00006742-00006978 basis of reading either of ideologically q0SYT0ALQSo-00025-00006979-00007206 structured analysis or of extensive q0SYT0ALQSo-00026-00007206-00007452 descriptions it also experiences and q0SYT0ALQSo-00027-00007453-00007638 senses it vicariously through q0SYT0ALQSo-00028-00007639-00007866 audio-visual communications a new q0SYT0ALQSo-00029-00007867-00008127 reality however will not be that of a q0SYT0ALQSo-00030-00008128-00008324 global village a more appropriate q0SYT0ALQSo-00031-00008325-00008598 analogy is that of the global city a q0SYT0ALQSo-00032-00008599-00008943 nervous a jeté 'td tense and fragmented q0SYT0ALQSo-00033-00008944-00009201 web of interdependent relations that q0SYT0ALQSo-00034-00009202-00009420 interdependence however is better q0SYT0ALQSo-00035-00009421-00009696 characterized by interaction than by q0SYT0ALQSo-00036-00009697-00009924 intimacy instant communications are q0SYT0ALQSo-00037-00009925-00010098 already creating something akin to a q0SYT0ALQSo-00038-00010099-00010341 global nervous system occasional q0SYT0ALQSo-00039-00010342-00010515 malfunctions of this nervous system q0SYT0ALQSo-00040-00010516-00010760 because of blackouts or breakdowns will q0SYT0ALQSo-00041-00010761-00010974 be all the more unsettling precisely q0SYT0ALQSo-00042-00010975-00011155 because the mutual confidence and q0SYT0ALQSo-00043-00011156-00011444 reciprocal a reinforcing stability that q0SYT0ALQSo-00044-00011445-00011669 are characteristics of village intimacy q0SYT0ALQSo-00045-00011670-00011880 will be absent from the process of that q0SYT0ALQSo-00046-00011881-00012302 nervous interaction and quote one of the q0SYT0ALQSo-00047-00012303-00012468 things I said during the election of q0SYT0ALQSo-00048-00012469-00012746 2016 was that both sides of the aisle q0SYT0ALQSo-00049-00012747-00012947 completely ignored the topic of q0SYT0ALQSo-00050-00012949-00013119 transhumanism and the technological q0SYT0ALQSo-00051-00013119-00013368 enslavement program a big part of that q0SYT0ALQSo-00052-00013369-00013519 plan is in the UN sustainable q0SYT0ALQSo-00053-00013520-00013815 development agenda now president Trump q0SYT0ALQSo-00054-00013816-00014076 has moved away from some of the elements q0SYT0ALQSo-00055-00014077-00014405 here primarily a TPP which was the work q0SYT0ALQSo-00056-00014406-00014622 of the traditional globalists as well as q0SYT0ALQSo-00057-00014622-00014897 the climate change deal which again was q0SYT0ALQSo-00058-00014899-00015138 part of the same old globalist elite and q0SYT0ALQSo-00059-00015138-00015363 many of us thought that that was a good q0SYT0ALQSo-00060-00015363-00015407 thing q0SYT0ALQSo-00061-00015408-00015701 and truly that is a good thing but there q0SYT0ALQSo-00062-00015702-00016094 are still concerns with Trump having q0SYT0ALQSo-00063-00016094-00016307 plans to make America great again I'm q0SYT0ALQSo-00064-00016308-00016484 trying to stay level and be cautious q0SYT0ALQSo-00065-00016485-00016775 about what that means because it might q0SYT0ALQSo-00066-00016776-00017108 inadvertently help other areas of the UN q0SYT0ALQSo-00067-00017109-00017354 2030 sustainable development agenda to q0SYT0ALQSo-00068-00017355-00017552 develop and I'm specifically talking q0SYT0ALQSo-00069-00017553-00017828 about this new rat race being played q0SYT0ALQSo-00070-00017829-00018034 between nations the one involving q0SYT0ALQSo-00071-00018035-00018242 technological infrastructure that q0SYT0ALQSo-00072-00018243-00018578 supports web 3.0 with tools like 5g more q0SYT0ALQSo-00073-00018579-00018863 AI integration a blockchain and the q0SYT0ALQSo-00074-00018864-00019064 Internet of Things really coming online q0SYT0ALQSo-00075-00019065-00019274 these developments will only help q0SYT0ALQSo-00076-00019275-00019529 increase the power of already highly q0SYT0ALQSo-00077-00019530-00019781 developed public technology like a Large q0SYT0ALQSo-00078-00019782-00019922 Hadron Collider at CERN in Geneva q0SYT0ALQSo-00079-00019923-00020150 Switzerland and the numerous particle q0SYT0ALQSo-00080-00020151-00020360 accelerators around the world and of q0SYT0ALQSo-00081-00020361-00020516 course we can't forget the Vatican who q0SYT0ALQSo-00082-00020517-00020732 owns the most sophisticated telescope q0SYT0ALQSo-00083-00020733-00021062 ironically or perhaps not named Lucifer q0SYT0ALQSo-00084-00021063-00021302 the world of politics is absolutely q0SYT0ALQSo-00085-00021303-00021524 insane right now the lunatic liberal q0SYT0ALQSo-00086-00021525-00021779 left has been exposed as open fascists q0SYT0ALQSo-00087-00021780-00021983 and political hypocrites the alt-right q0SYT0ALQSo-00088-00021984-00022202 is being drawn into the drumbeats of q0SYT0ALQSo-00089-00022203-00022421 civil war as a reactionary stance q0SYT0ALQSo-00090-00022422-00022628 against the illogical baiting of the q0SYT0ALQSo-00091-00022629-00022790 lunatic left but between the q0SYT0ALQSo-00092-00022791-00023006 transmission from Infowars and MSM q0SYT0ALQSo-00093-00023007-00023225 storylines that distract us to no end q0SYT0ALQSo-00094-00023226-00023465 are the continued developments of the q0SYT0ALQSo-00095-00023466-00023717 real New World Order a big part of this q0SYT0ALQSo-00096-00023718-00023942 ministry has been a warning of what's q0SYT0ALQSo-00097-00023943-00024149 coming it's being touted as the fourth q0SYT0ALQSo-00098-00024150-00024431 Industrial Revolution and like the life q0SYT0ALQSo-00099-00024432-00024641 cycle of a butterfly from egg to q0SYT0ALQSo-00100-00024642-00024919 caterpillar to chrysalis and finally the q0SYT0ALQSo-00101-00024920-00025154 fourth transition into a beautiful q0SYT0ALQSo-00102-00025155-00025349 butterfly this stage of the q0SYT0ALQSo-00103-00025350-00025645 technological revolution is poised to be q0SYT0ALQSo-00104-00025647-00025915 a deal breaker for many of us now let me q0SYT0ALQSo-00105-00025916-00026156 be clear technology itself is not evil q0SYT0ALQSo-00106-00026157-00026395 or good but the intention of those q0SYT0ALQSo-00107-00026397-00026683 constructing it all around us don't have q0SYT0ALQSo-00108-00026685-00026873 our best interest in mind this q0SYT0ALQSo-00109-00026874-00027119 technological infrastructure for a q0SYT0ALQSo-00110-00027120-00027358 global currency massive surveillance q0SYT0ALQSo-00111-00027358-00027617 internet of things quantum computing q0SYT0ALQSo-00112-00027618-00027895 artificial intelligence DNA databases q0SYT0ALQSo-00113-00027897-00028199 smart dust smart cities nanobots q0SYT0ALQSo-00114-00028200-00028339 bioengineering q0SYT0ALQSo-00115-00028341-00028637 virtual and augmented reality q0SYT0ALQSo-00116-00028638-00028838 plantable technologies and much much q0SYT0ALQSo-00117-00028839-00029180 more are going to be extremely invasive q0SYT0ALQSo-00118-00029181-00029582 on September 23rd 2015 the first Jesuit q0SYT0ALQSo-00119-00029583-00029735 Pope stood in front of the United q0SYT0ALQSo-00120-00029736-00030032 Nations in New York to announce agenda q0SYT0ALQSo-00121-00030033-00030269 2030 for the United States within the q0SYT0ALQSo-00122-00030270-00030482 publicly available documents of the UN q0SYT0ALQSo-00123-00030483-00030770 2030 agenda were the bare facts about q0SYT0ALQSo-00124-00030770-00030995 the human enslavement program written in q0SYT0ALQSo-00125-00030995-00031316 positive socialistic appeal but as usual q0SYT0ALQSo-00126-00031317-00031520 it's not always what they tell us but q0SYT0ALQSo-00127-00031520-00031730 what they don't tell us that drives q0SYT0ALQSo-00128-00031731-00032077 forward our enslavement a year later on q0SYT0ALQSo-00129-00032079-00032426 September 23rd 2016 nothing noteworthy q0SYT0ALQSo-00130-00032427-00032630 happened except for NASA never a q0SYT0ALQSo-00131-00032631-00032828 straight answer publishing this nonsense q0SYT0ALQSo-00132-00032829-00034121 propaganda about Mars helped introduce q0SYT0ALQSo-00133-00034122-00034352 destination Mars a mixed reality q0SYT0ALQSo-00134-00034353-00034598 experience designed by NASA's Jet q0SYT0ALQSo-00135-00034599-00034814 Propulsion Laboratory and microsoft q0SYT0ALQSo-00136-00034815-00034976 hololens a fully self-contained q0SYT0ALQSo-00137-00034977-00035246 holographic computer the limited time q0SYT0ALQSo-00138-00035247-00035444 exhibit which uses real imagery taken q0SYT0ALQSo-00139-00035445-00035687 about NASA's Mars Curiosity rover and q0SYT0ALQSo-00140-00035688-00035900 enables users to explore the Martian q0SYT0ALQSo-00141-00035901-00036221 surface January and now coming up on q0SYT0ALQSo-00142-00036222-00036596 September 23rd 2017 the celestial q0SYT0ALQSo-00143-00036597-00036842 alignment that per usual is somewhat q0SYT0ALQSo-00144-00036843-00037043 overblown by some as some sort of q0SYT0ALQSo-00145-00037044-00037241 celestial signal for the end of the q0SYT0ALQSo-00146-00037242-00037553 world or dismissed too hastily by others q0SYT0ALQSo-00147-00037554-00037799 is interesting because it comes at a q0SYT0ALQSo-00148-00037800-00038141 time when again massive changes in this q0SYT0ALQSo-00149-00038142-00038354 infrastructure are beginning to take q0SYT0ALQSo-00150-00038355-00038936 place now one topic that's been q0SYT0ALQSo-00151-00038937-00039236 discussed quite a bit recently is 5g Max q0SYT0ALQSo-00152-00039237-00039554 Egan was recently on sgt report was Sean q0SYT0ALQSo-00153-00039555-00039707 great interview I'll leave a link to q0SYT0ALQSo-00154-00039708-00039923 that but as I started to dig in and look q0SYT0ALQSo-00155-00039924-00040181 around YouTube I found quite a bit of q0SYT0ALQSo-00156-00040182-00040568 people concerned about 5g q0SYT0ALQSo-00157-00040569-00040923 I believe a citizen living this county q0SYT0ALQSo-00158-00040924-00041148 for the last 30 years and I'm a question q0SYT0ALQSo-00159-00041149-00041537 related to the health issue I know the q0SYT0ALQSo-00160-00041538-00041867 FCC has ruled out that the low radio q0SYT0ALQSo-00161-00041868-00042045 frequency doesn't cause any kind of q0SYT0ALQSo-00162-00042046-00042311 health effects myself worked for 30 q0SYT0ALQSo-00163-00042312-00042587 years at EPA and did the risk of q0SYT0ALQSo-00164-00042588-00042896 chemicals and several agents even this q0SYT0ALQSo-00165-00042897-00043110 low frequency is supposed to be low q0SYT0ALQSo-00166-00043111-00043274 frequency doesn't cause any kind of q0SYT0ALQSo-00167-00043275-00043458 cancer I will read and you can read it q0SYT0ALQSo-00168-00043459-00043592 yourself you can go to Google q0SYT0ALQSo-00169-00043593-00043802 International Agency but cancer research q0SYT0ALQSo-00170-00043803-00044087 has clearly said that the frequency not q0SYT0ALQSo-00171-00044088-00044358 as as they're coming out of cell towers q0SYT0ALQSo-00172-00044359-00044630 but likely to cause DNA damage is likely q0SYT0ALQSo-00173-00044631-00044814 to cause cancer specifically brain q0SYT0ALQSo-00174-00044815-00045080 cancer and more specifically in children q0SYT0ALQSo-00175-00045081-00045279 the iron concern among citizens of this q0SYT0ALQSo-00176-00045280-00045504 County the little kids that may be q0SYT0ALQSo-00177-00045505-00045729 exposed to even low frequency or a short q0SYT0ALQSo-00178-00045730-00045887 term exposure versus a long term q0SYT0ALQSo-00179-00045888-00045936 exposure q0SYT0ALQSo-00180-00045937-00046110 I think the county has a responsibility q0SYT0ALQSo-00181-00046111-00046485 to get the correct ruling on this even q0SYT0ALQSo-00182-00046486-00046745 the FCC is not a temp agency keep that q0SYT0ALQSo-00183-00046746-00046793 in mind q0SYT0ALQSo-00184-00046794-00047201 read the that she's not a half-angle FCC q0SYT0ALQSo-00185-00047202-00047492 has fought over the EPA EPA has not q0SYT0ALQSo-00186-00047493-00047676 ruled into this I know it I work for the q0SYT0ALQSo-00187-00047677-00048120 EPA go to the websites of the different q0SYT0ALQSo-00188-00048121-00048348 federal agencies there is a equivocal q0SYT0ALQSo-00189-00048349-00048599 data the data is not clear however there q0SYT0ALQSo-00190-00048600-00048726 are some positive study the negative q0SYT0ALQSo-00191-00048727-00048948 studies I would urge for the sake of q0SYT0ALQSo-00192-00048949-00049183 this count is safety and health safety q0SYT0ALQSo-00193-00049184-00049517 County has to be responsible for making q0SYT0ALQSo-00194-00049518-00049755 sure there's no long-term effects of q0SYT0ALQSo-00195-00049756-00050169 these frequencies on kids q0SYT0ALQSo-00196-00050170-00050508 just one point the FCC is not a health q0SYT0ALQSo-00197-00050509-00050930 agency but it is a federal agency and q0SYT0ALQSo-00198-00050931-00051291 and and the problem the problem for the q0SYT0ALQSo-00199-00051291-00051675 county is that we are preempted as much q0SYT0ALQSo-00200-00051676-00052071 as we would like to or not concern with q0SYT0ALQSo-00201-00052072-00052422 that problem we just cannot are the q0SYT0ALQSo-00202-00052423-00052832 answer lies in changing the War College q0SYT0ALQSo-00203-00052833-00053078 we can do lots of things within q0SYT0ALQSo-00204-00053079-00053316 regulating it but not on the basis of q0SYT0ALQSo-00205-00053316-00053625 health my name is David Fialka if I live q0SYT0ALQSo-00206-00053626-00053804 in North Potomac I just want to briefly q0SYT0ALQSo-00207-00053805-00054027 first preface this by saying to our q0SYT0ALQSo-00208-00054028-00054276 council members to our county employees q0SYT0ALQSo-00209-00054277-00054504 who are paid by us to represent us q0SYT0ALQSo-00210-00054504-00054735 you've got a lot of angry concerned q0SYT0ALQSo-00211-00054736-00054954 people here and the attitude we see from q0SYT0ALQSo-00212-00054954-00055130 you is oh well it's just business as q0SYT0ALQSo-00213-00055132-00055311 usual there's nothing we can do q0SYT0ALQSo-00214-00055312-00055665 can you please exhibit some concern look q0SYT0ALQSo-00215-00055666-00055797 at the concern here look at all the q0SYT0ALQSo-00216-00055798-00055959 emails you've been getting look at the q0SYT0ALQSo-00217-00055960-00056180 explosion of concern about this we'd q0SYT0ALQSo-00218-00056182-00056415 like to see it from you and not this q0SYT0ALQSo-00219-00056416-00056685 laid-back attitude I actually have a q0SYT0ALQSo-00220-00056686-00056910 couple of questions you know when we q0SYT0ALQSo-00221-00056911-00057150 want to do something it seems like the q0SYT0ALQSo-00222-00057151-00057429 EPA can come in and stop us from having q0SYT0ALQSo-00223-00057429-00057686 anything done because of health issues q0SYT0ALQSo-00224-00057687-00057924 this gentleman over here who worked for q0SYT0ALQSo-00225-00057925-00058101 the EPA is saying there's a possible q0SYT0ALQSo-00226-00058102-00058344 health risk why aren't we going back to q0SYT0ALQSo-00227-00058345-00058551 our council you know our congressman and q0SYT0ALQSo-00228-00058552-00058815 our senators and saying look if the APA q0SYT0ALQSo-00229-00058816-00058989 is saying that there's a problem here q0SYT0ALQSo-00230-00058990-00059241 they stop everything else why are not q0SYT0ALQSo-00231-00059241-00059388 County counselors going to the EPA and q0SYT0ALQSo-00232-00059389-00059697 saying hold up why can't we do a health q0SYT0ALQSo-00233-00059698-00059891 assessment here and find out what the q0SYT0ALQSo-00234-00059892-00060170 real health risks aren't to our children q0SYT0ALQSo-00235-00060171-00060429 see another question over here q0SYT0ALQSo-00236-00060429-00061098 I bought it the councilmember so and my q0SYT0ALQSo-00237-00061099-00061416 colleagues are look we wish we could q0SYT0ALQSo-00238-00061416-00062180 change the federal law my question is q0SYT0ALQSo-00239-00062182-00062412 given that there are health concerns if q0SYT0ALQSo-00240-00062413-00062661 there is a change in the law in the q0SYT0ALQSo-00241-00062662-00062898 future is there any provision that the q0SYT0ALQSo-00242-00062899-00063123 county has at the moment that means that q0SYT0ALQSo-00243-00063124-00063291 these poles either come down or are q0SYT0ALQSo-00244-00063291-00063735 modified to address the new laws you q0SYT0ALQSo-00245-00063736-00063891 know there's all these issues with not q0SYT0ALQSo-00246-00063891-00064032 conforming you so it's something that q0SYT0ALQSo-00247-00064033-00064326 would let say predate a law could you q0SYT0ALQSo-00248-00064327-00064497 know would not be covered under I want q0SYT0ALQSo-00249-00064498-00064620 to make sure that if we're erecting q0SYT0ALQSo-00250-00064621-00064817 something today and the laws change we q0SYT0ALQSo-00251-00064819-00064947 discovered that there is actually an old q0SYT0ALQSo-00252-00064948-00065148 concern that FCC gets overruled in court q0SYT0ALQSo-00253-00065149-00065325 whatever it happens do these poles come q0SYT0ALQSo-00254-00065326-00065616 down there is there was a provision in q0SYT0ALQSo-00255-00065617-00065805 the franchise agreement for onions q0SYT0ALQSo-00256-00065806-00066300 equipment to come down and and the real q0SYT0ALQSo-00257-00066301-00066417 the real q0SYT0ALQSo-00258-00066418-00066642 I think the grab amount of your question q0SYT0ALQSo-00259-00066643-00066972 is if FCC changes the rules such that q0SYT0ALQSo-00260-00066973-00067317 these things cannot operate would least q0SYT0ALQSo-00261-00067318-00067525 often and have taken down q0SYT0ALQSo-00262-00067526-00067918 I was listening to all the presentations q0SYT0ALQSo-00263-00067919-00068278 and three questions came to mind mr. q0SYT0ALQSo-00264-00068279-00068554 Hartman mentioned for mobility a very q0SYT0ALQSo-00265-00068555-00068740 simple example of a flashlight that q0SYT0ALQSo-00266-00068741-00069025 dispersed a beam the first thing that q0SYT0ALQSo-00267-00069026-00069196 came to my mind when you said these are q0SYT0ALQSo-00268-00069197-00069361 smaller towers that have a more q0SYT0ALQSo-00269-00069362-00069610 concentrated beam when I was a kid q0SYT0ALQSo-00270-00069611-00069772 that's how we started a fire by q0SYT0ALQSo-00271-00069773-00070078 concentrating the energy and so I would q0SYT0ALQSo-00272-00070079-00070314 liken just a very simple explanation why q0SYT0ALQSo-00273-00070315-00070561 concentrating all this energy is not q0SYT0ALQSo-00274-00070562-00070786 going to further increase the health q0SYT0ALQSo-00275-00070787-00071002 risk that we're all kind of talking that q0SYT0ALQSo-00276-00071003-00071188 there already are radio waves the q0SYT0ALQSo-00277-00071189-00071404 question is what is the level that is q0SYT0ALQSo-00278-00071405-00071578 dangerous or not which itself is a q0SYT0ALQSo-00279-00071579-00071782 question so I think talking about q0SYT0ALQSo-00280-00071783-00072037 concentration kind of scares me a little q0SYT0ALQSo-00281-00072038-00072301 bit but the other thing that I wanted to q0SYT0ALQSo-00282-00072302-00072580 ask is it seems like everyone has said q0SYT0ALQSo-00283-00072581-00072784 that it's a given that we have to have q0SYT0ALQSo-00284-00072785-00072967 this in the neighborhood and we should q0SYT0ALQSo-00285-00072968-00073252 come up with some regulations some q0SYT0ALQSo-00286-00073253-00073498 zoning some suggestions but I'm q0SYT0ALQSo-00287-00073499-00073717 proposing why do we have to accept it q0SYT0ALQSo-00288-00073718-00073927 and find the areas within our community q0SYT0ALQSo-00289-00073928-00074250 why can't we propose alternative q0SYT0ALQSo-00290-00074251-00074539 non-residential locations that may serve q0SYT0ALQSo-00291-00074540-00074713 the same purpose if there's an issue q0SYT0ALQSo-00292-00074714-00074989 then we don't have to accept which half q0SYT0ALQSo-00293-00074990-00075217 gets it maybe we have to find a way to q0SYT0ALQSo-00294-00075218-00075391 solve the problem in a way that doesn't q0SYT0ALQSo-00295-00075392-00075664 impact residential communities and the q0SYT0ALQSo-00296-00075665-00075862 third thing is I want to know whether q0SYT0ALQSo-00297-00075863-00076075 all of us here are guinea pigs it seems q0SYT0ALQSo-00298-00076076-00076312 like this is new technology I want to q0SYT0ALQSo-00299-00076313-00076537 know how to have in other areas where q0SYT0ALQSo-00300-00076538-00076825 you know towers have been put every five q0SYT0ALQSo-00301-00076826-00077026 hundred thousand feet or whatever and q0SYT0ALQSo-00302-00077027-00077241 have there been longitudinal q0SYT0ALQSo-00303-00077242-00077473 epidemiological studies in those areas q0SYT0ALQSo-00304-00077474-00077647 not they put it up yesterday and q0SYT0ALQSo-00305-00077648-00077875 everyone is healthy today but what's q0SYT0ALQSo-00306-00077876-00078187 happened in five 10 15 20 years after q0SYT0ALQSo-00307-00078188-00078523 polls have been put every 500 feet in a q0SYT0ALQSo-00308-00078524-00078730 residential community do you have q0SYT0ALQSo-00309-00078731-00078901 answers to any of those questions q0SYT0ALQSo-00310-00078902-00080573 [Music] q0SYT0ALQSo-00311-00080574-00080961 now the FCC clearly don't have answers q0SYT0ALQSo-00312-00080962-00081291 for this and Tom wheeler openly stated q0SYT0ALQSo-00313-00081292-00081411 that they're going to push forward q0SYT0ALQSo-00314-00081412-00081645 regardless of lack of research q0SYT0ALQSo-00315-00081646-00081882 regardless of any kind of resistance q0SYT0ALQSo-00316-00081883-00082107 that might come up in this disturbing q0SYT0ALQSo-00317-00082108-00082410 clip check this out I found myself in a q0SYT0ALQSo-00318-00082411-00082794 in a situation that I never would have q0SYT0ALQSo-00319-00082795-00083094 imagined when I became FCC Chairman I q0SYT0ALQSo-00320-00083095-00083394 was I was in Dallas Texas I was at the q0SYT0ALQSo-00321-00083395-00083721 helm of an excavator a big piece of q0SYT0ALQSo-00322-00083722-00084342 heavy machinery digging up dirt and for q0SYT0ALQSo-00323-00084343-00084476 those of you who want a picture that q0SYT0ALQSo-00324-00084477-00084804 scene in your in your mind yes I was q0SYT0ALQSo-00325-00084805-00085323 wearing a suit I was also wearing a pair q0SYT0ALQSo-00326-00085324-00085722 of virtual reality goggles and I hadn't q0SYT0ALQSo-00327-00085723-00086247 left the FCC and while I may have been q0SYT0ALQSo-00328-00086248-00086550 in Washington physically I can tell you q0SYT0ALQSo-00329-00086551-00086867 I was at the excavation site in Dallas q0SYT0ALQSo-00330-00086868-00087105 1,400 miles away q0SYT0ALQSo-00331-00087106-00087417 i sat in the Mokka of the excavator and q0SYT0ALQSo-00332-00087418-00087897 I had complete control sensitivity to q0SYT0ALQSo-00333-00087898-00088257 the equipment 1,400 miles away we all q0SYT0ALQSo-00334-00088258-00088611 know the difference in performance of a q0SYT0ALQSo-00335-00088612-00088911 direct fiber connection compared to a q0SYT0ALQSo-00336-00088912-00089102 wireless connection q0SYT0ALQSo-00337-00089103-00089525 the next generation of wireless must be q0SYT0ALQSo-00338-00089526-00089978 mobile fiber ten to a hundred times q0SYT0ALQSo-00339-00089979-00090346 faster than what we're used to today q0SYT0ALQSo-00340-00090347-00090643 latency needs to be less than one q0SYT0ALQSo-00341-00090644-00091025 millisecond less than one one thousandth q0SYT0ALQSo-00342-00091026-00091333 of a second to provide for real-time q0SYT0ALQSo-00343-00091334-00091574 interactions because if you're gonna q0SYT0ALQSo-00344-00091575-00091817 have that kind of high speed and low q0SYT0ALQSo-00345-00091818-00092285 latency you have to have the ability for q0SYT0ALQSo-00346-00092286-00092605 digital information to race down broad q0SYT0ALQSo-00347-00092606-00093308 chunks of driving force of the 21st q0SYT0ALQSo-00348-00093309-00093784 century will be powerful processing q0SYT0ALQSo-00349-00093785-00094208 centralized in the cloud and wirelessly q0SYT0ALQSo-00350-00094209-00094565 connected to thin clients autonomous q0SYT0ALQSo-00351-00094566-00094847 vehicles will become close it will be q0SYT0ALQSo-00352-00094848-00095141 controlled in the cloud smart city q0SYT0ALQSo-00353-00095142-00095399 energy grids transportation networks and q0SYT0ALQSo-00354-00095400-00095744 water systems will be controlled in the q0SYT0ALQSo-00355-00095745-00096050 cloud immersive education and q0SYT0ALQSo-00356-00096051-00096379 entertainment will come from the cloud q0SYT0ALQSo-00357-00096380-00096838 but such futures won't come to pass q0SYT0ALQSo-00358-00096839-00097280 unless the pathway to and from the cloud q0SYT0ALQSo-00359-00097281-00097739 is low latency ultra fast and secure q0SYT0ALQSo-00360-00097740-00098018 I've listed some examples earlier I'm q0SYT0ALQSo-00361-00098019-00098461 going to go about what 5g makes possible q0SYT0ALQSo-00362-00098462-00098714 but if anyone tells you that they know q0SYT0ALQSo-00363-00098715-00098888 the details of what 5g is going to q0SYT0ALQSo-00364-00098889-00099714 become run the other way because q0SYT0ALQSo-00365-00099715-00100232 it is the capacity to use this new q0SYT0ALQSo-00366-00100233-00100449 capability that will determine what our q0SYT0ALQSo-00367-00100450-00100557 future looks like q0SYT0ALQSo-00368-00100558-00100773 yes 5g will connect the internet of q0SYT0ALQSo-00369-00100774-00101013 everything if something can be connected q0SYT0ALQSo-00370-00101014-00101271 it will be connected in the 5g world but q0SYT0ALQSo-00371-00101272-00101481 with the predictions of hundreds of q0SYT0ALQSo-00372-00101482-00101906 billions of microchips connected in q0SYT0ALQSo-00373-00101907-00102225 products from pill bottles to plant q0SYT0ALQSo-00374-00102226-00102671 waters you can be sure of only one thing q0SYT0ALQSo-00375-00102672-00103040 the biggest Internet of Things q0SYT0ALQSo-00376-00103041-00103563 application it's yet to be imagined the q0SYT0ALQSo-00377-00103564-00103855 interconnected world of the future will q0SYT0ALQSo-00378-00103856-00104234 be the result of decisions we must make q0SYT0ALQSo-00379-00104235-00104799 today and that is why 5g is a national q0SYT0ALQSo-00380-00104800-00105225 priority the United States will be the q0SYT0ALQSo-00381-00105226-00105591 first country in the world to open up q0SYT0ALQSo-00382-00105592-00106020 high band spectrum for 5g networks and q0SYT0ALQSo-00383-00106021-00106514 applications and that's damn important q0SYT0ALQSo-00384-00106515-00106974 because it means that US companies will q0SYT0ALQSo-00385-00106975-00107472 be the first out of the gate we will be q0SYT0ALQSo-00386-00107473-00107676 repeating the formula that made the q0SYT0ALQSo-00387-00107677-00107951 United States the world leader in 4G q0SYT0ALQSo-00388-00107952-00108315 it's a simple formula lead the world in q0SYT0ALQSo-00389-00108316-00108591 spectrum availability encourage and q0SYT0ALQSo-00390-00108592-00108876 print and protect innovation driving q0SYT0ALQSo-00391-00108877-00109208 competition and stay out of the way of q0SYT0ALQSo-00392-00109208-00109563 technological development unlike some q0SYT0ALQSo-00393-00109564-00109848 countries we do not believe that we q0SYT0ALQSo-00394-00109849-00110033 should spend the next couple of years q0SYT0ALQSo-00395-00110033-00110418 studying what 5g should be or how it q0SYT0ALQSo-00396-00110419-00110604 should operate and how to allocate q0SYT0ALQSo-00397-00110605-00110953 spectrum based on those assumptions q0SYT0ALQSo-00398-00110954-00111270 they tend to travel best in narrow and q0SYT0ALQSo-00399-00111271-00111597 straight lines and they do not go q0SYT0ALQSo-00400-00111598-00111848 through physical objects as well q0SYT0ALQSo-00401-00111849-00112184 this means that very narrow signals in q0SYT0ALQSo-00402-00112185-00112371 an urban environment tend to bounce q0SYT0ALQSo-00403-00112372-00112577 around the buildings and other obstacles q0SYT0ALQSo-00404-00112578-00112827 making it difficult to connect to a q0SYT0ALQSo-00405-00112828-00113161 moving point but brilliant engineers q0SYT0ALQSo-00406-00113163-00113643 have developed new antennas that can aim q0SYT0ALQSo-00407-00113644-00114029 in amplify signals coupled with q0SYT0ALQSo-00408-00114030-00114278 sophisticated sophisticated processing q0SYT0ALQSo-00409-00114279-00114633 that allows a moving device to pick up q0SYT0ALQSo-00410-00114633-00114813 all of the signals that are bouncing q0SYT0ALQSo-00411-00114814-00115106 around and create one coherent q0SYT0ALQSo-00412-00115107-00115541 connection now to make this work q0SYT0ALQSo-00413-00115542-00115936 5.the 5g build-out is going to be very q0SYT0ALQSo-00414-00115938-00116256 infrastructure intensive requiring q0SYT0ALQSo-00415-00116257-00116682 massive deployment of small cells but it q0SYT0ALQSo-00416-00116683-00116891 also opens up unprecedent opportunities q0SYT0ALQSo-00417-00116892-00117138 for frequency reuse in denser and more q0SYT0ALQSo-00418-00117139-00117215 localized q0SYT0ALQSo-00419-00117216-00117471 networks the ability to use this high q0SYT0ALQSo-00420-00117472-00117764 frequency spectrum opens much bigger q0SYT0ALQSo-00421-00117765-00118136 chunks of spectrum you must reject the q0SYT0ALQSo-00422-00118138-00118482 notion that the 5g future will be the q0SYT0ALQSo-00423-00118483-00118893 sole province of urban areas the 5g q0SYT0ALQSo-00424-00118894-00119216 revolution will touch all corners of our q0SYT0ALQSo-00425-00119217-00119516 country cyber security issues must be q0SYT0ALQSo-00426-00119517-00119814 addressed during the design phase of the q0SYT0ALQSo-00427-00119815-00120221 entire 5g ecosystem including devices q0SYT0ALQSo-00428-00120222-00120432 this will place a premium on q0SYT0ALQSo-00429-00120433-00120653 collaboration amongst all stakeholders q0SYT0ALQSo-00430-00120654-00120921 we continue to prefer an approach that q0SYT0ALQSo-00431-00120922-00121119 emphasizes that industry develops q0SYT0ALQSo-00432-00121120-00121389 cybersecurity standards just as we have q0SYT0ALQSo-00433-00121390-00121646 done in the wired networks q0SYT0ALQSo-00434-00121647-00121976 but security is an essential component q0SYT0ALQSo-00435-00121977-00122210 of where we go on networks and we will q0SYT0ALQSo-00436-00122211-00122400 have the ability to think about it first q0SYT0ALQSo-00437-00122401-00122699 as a fourth on rather than afterthought q0SYT0ALQSo-00438-00122700-00123038 now I titled this video Trump's New q0SYT0ALQSo-00439-00123039-00123207 World Order and you might be wondering q0SYT0ALQSo-00440-00123208-00123432 well why isn't Trump against the sort of q0SYT0ALQSo-00441-00123433-00123629 thing isn't he against enslavement I q0SYT0ALQSo-00442-00123630-00123981 think in certain areas yes but think q0SYT0ALQSo-00443-00123982-00124221 about what he said just recently at the q0SYT0ALQSo-00444-00124222-00124577 West Virginia rally where he openly q0SYT0ALQSo-00445-00124578-00124770 talked about building more q0SYT0ALQSo-00446-00124771-00125336 infrastructure more jobs etc etc very q0SYT0ALQSo-00447-00125338-00125638 soon but you're hearing about it my q0SYT0ALQSo-00448-00125639-00125808 administration is committed to q0SYT0ALQSo-00449-00125808-00126137 rebuilding the depleted infrastructure q0SYT0ALQSo-00450-00126138-00126332 of the United States q0SYT0ALQSo-00451-00126333-00126784 [Applause] q0SYT0ALQSo-00452-00126785-00127209 think of it we've spent six trillion q0SYT0ALQSo-00453-00127210-00127510 dollars in the Middle East and the q0SYT0ALQSo-00454-00127511-00127753 Middle East is a hundred times worse q0SYT0ALQSo-00455-00127754-00128057 than it was 16 years ago when we started q0SYT0ALQSo-00456-00128058-00128536 can you believe this what a shame q0SYT0ALQSo-00457-00128538-00128858 that is why we are pushing a one q0SYT0ALQSo-00458-00128858-00129210 trillion dollar new infrastructure q0SYT0ALQSo-00459-00129211-00129502 investment bill we're gonna fix our q0SYT0ALQSo-00460-00129503-00129782 roads we're going to fix our bridges q0SYT0ALQSo-00461-00129783-00130084 we're going to fix our highways and our q0SYT0ALQSo-00462-00130085-00130918 schools and our airports q0SYT0ALQSo-00463-00130919-00131320 we will create amazing monuments that q0SYT0ALQSo-00464-00131321-00131695 inspire awe and Wonder in our people it q0SYT0ALQSo-00465-00131696-00131997 used to be that way it's not that way q0SYT0ALQSo-00466-00131998-00132252 any longer we have airports that look q0SYT0ALQSo-00467-00132253-00132597 like third world countries it's not q0SYT0ALQSo-00468-00132598-00133235 going to be that way anymore q0SYT0ALQSo-00469-00133236-00133570 American workers will build this great q0SYT0ALQSo-00470-00133571-00133983 future and American energy and American q0SYT0ALQSo-00471-00133984-00134670 clean coal will power this future q0SYT0ALQSo-00472-00134671-00134910 we are the nation that put a man on the q0SYT0ALQSo-00473-00134911-00135332 moon that dug out the Panama Canal and q0SYT0ALQSo-00474-00135333-00136221 that won two World Wars we can do q0SYT0ALQSo-00475-00136222-00136596 anything we can build anything and we q0SYT0ALQSo-00476-00136597-00137211 can dream the bottom line is that he is q0SYT0ALQSo-00477-00137212-00137502 talking about a fourth Industrial q0SYT0ALQSo-00478-00137503-00137733 Revolution and having the United States q0SYT0ALQSo-00479-00137734-00138105 lead it so yes it is creating jobs yes q0SYT0ALQSo-00480-00138106-00138309 it is bringing back industry to the q0SYT0ALQSo-00481-00138310-00138495 United States but for what what are we q0SYT0ALQSo-00482-00138496-00138828 building we're rebuilding everything to q0SYT0ALQSo-00483-00138829-00139167 accommodate for the Smart City or the UN q0SYT0ALQSo-00484-00139168-00139458 2030 sustainable development agenda now q0SYT0ALQSo-00485-00139459-00139662 there's a weird twist to this as well q0SYT0ALQSo-00486-00139663-00139917 Peto Gate pizza gate has been a very q0SYT0ALQSo-00487-00139918-00140274 very important subject for independent q0SYT0ALQSo-00488-00140275-00140565 researchers and we've recently seen q0SYT0ALQSo-00489-00140566-00140817 reports of celebrities starting to come q0SYT0ALQSo-00490-00140818-00141081 out and talk about their encounters with q0SYT0ALQSo-00491-00141082-00141279 these pedophiles who actually run q0SYT0ALQSo-00492-00141280-00141552 Hollywood the music industry we know q0SYT0ALQSo-00493-00141553-00141714 they're in the Vatican we know they're q0SYT0ALQSo-00494-00141715-00141897 in the government but as more people q0SYT0ALQSo-00495-00141898-00142137 speak up about this and this topic is q0SYT0ALQSo-00496-00142138-00142272 exposed q0SYT0ALQSo-00497-00142273-00142545 what is it creating well on the one hand q0SYT0ALQSo-00498-00142546-00142779 if all these celebrities are doing it q0SYT0ALQSo-00499-00142780-00143010 for the common good of man then this is q0SYT0ALQSo-00500-00143011-00143187 a good thing more people need to realize q0SYT0ALQSo-00501-00143188-00143448 that there is a problem with pedophilia q0SYT0ALQSo-00502-00143449-00143766 in this country in our institutions but q0SYT0ALQSo-00503-00143767-00144135 in the same way God uses all situations q0SYT0ALQSo-00504-00144136-00144426 for good I think the enemy uses all q0SYT0ALQSo-00505-00144427-00144777 situations or bad and the exposing of q0SYT0ALQSo-00506-00144778-00144984 pedo gates and the pedophiles in our q0SYT0ALQSo-00507-00144985-00145341 governments in our institutions might be q0SYT0ALQSo-00508-00145342-00145557 the beginning of a larger enslavement q0SYT0ALQSo-00509-00145558-00145746 program as part of this fourth q0SYT0ALQSo-00510-00145747-00145944 Industrial Revolution as part of this q0SYT0ALQSo-00511-00145945-00146160 rebuilding infrastructure as part of q0SYT0ALQSo-00512-00146161-00146370 making America great again q0SYT0ALQSo-00513-00146371-00146556 let me explain myself a little bit q0SYT0ALQSo-00514-00146557-00146892 problem reaction solution they used it q0SYT0ALQSo-00515-00146893-00147102 in 9/11 they had the problem which was q0SYT0ALQSo-00516-00147103-00147303 9/11 the terrorists they had the q0SYT0ALQSo-00517-00147304-00147462 reaction we need to do something about q0SYT0ALQSo-00518-00147463-00147753 it and the solution which is giving up q0SYT0ALQSo-00519-00147754-00147859 more and more of q0SYT0ALQSo-00520-00147860-00148246 privacy in exchange for security Thank q0SYT0ALQSo-00521-00148247-00148474 You government or looking over us right q0SYT0ALQSo-00522-00148475-00148732 well in the same way this pedal problem q0SYT0ALQSo-00523-00148733-00149011 really does accelerate this fourth q0SYT0ALQSo-00524-00149012-00149209 Industrial Revolution in this way a q0SYT0ALQSo-00525-00149210-00149497 problem elite pedophiles run almost q0SYT0ALQSo-00526-00149498-00149668 everything guys like John Podesta q0SYT0ALQSo-00527-00149669-00149916 running around doing weird things and q0SYT0ALQSo-00528-00149917-00150193 there are some researchers here who all q0SYT0ALQSo-00529-00150194-00150399 they say is John Podesta needs to be in q0SYT0ALQSo-00530-00150400-00150694 jail I agree 100% I think a lot of q0SYT0ALQSo-00531-00150695-00150898 people need to be in jail Hillary q0SYT0ALQSo-00532-00150899-00151135 Clinton Bill Clinton uma Abidine debbie q0SYT0ALQSo-00533-00151136-00151362 Wasserman Schultz the list goes on and q0SYT0ALQSo-00534-00151363-00151570 on and on but once they're in jail or if q0SYT0ALQSo-00535-00151571-00151843 they even get to jail so what what then q0SYT0ALQSo-00536-00151844-00152088 have we eradicated the problem no we q0SYT0ALQSo-00537-00152089-00152131 haven't q0SYT0ALQSo-00538-00152132-00152313 so the problem of the elite pedophile q0SYT0ALQSo-00539-00152314-00152490 rating will continue even if John q0SYT0ALQSo-00540-00152491-00152676 Podesta goes to jail the reaction q0SYT0ALQSo-00541-00152677-00152896 citizen outrage the more people realize q0SYT0ALQSo-00542-00152897-00153061 this the more people are going to speak q0SYT0ALQSo-00543-00153062-00153271 up against it independent journalists q0SYT0ALQSo-00544-00153272-00153525 reporters have dedicated their time and q0SYT0ALQSo-00545-00153526-00153772 energy to exposing pedda gate which is a q0SYT0ALQSo-00546-00153773-00154024 good thing solution though what is the q0SYT0ALQSo-00547-00154025-00154273 solution now at a very basic level the q0SYT0ALQSo-00548-00154274-00154498 solution is more awareness so that you q0SYT0ALQSo-00549-00154499-00154764 don't put your children in jeopardy but q0SYT0ALQSo-00550-00154765-00154984 we know that governments and q0SYT0ALQSo-00551-00154985-00155199 institutions always like to step in with q0SYT0ALQSo-00552-00155200-00155379 their solution now let me give you some q0SYT0ALQSo-00553-00155380-00155608 excerpts here from the United Nations q0SYT0ALQSo-00554-00155609-00155932 2030 sustainable development agenda this q0SYT0ALQSo-00555-00155933-00156138 is from eight point seven where it says q0SYT0ALQSo-00556-00156139-00156366 take immediate and effective measures to q0SYT0ALQSo-00557-00156367-00156603 eradicate forced labor and modern q0SYT0ALQSo-00558-00156604-00156861 slavery and human trafficking and secure q0SYT0ALQSo-00559-00156862-00157045 the prohibition and an elimination of q0SYT0ALQSo-00560-00157046-00157282 the worst forms of child labor including q0SYT0ALQSo-00561-00157283-00157452 recruitment and use of child soldiers q0SYT0ALQSo-00562-00157453-00157846 and by 2025 and child labor in all its q0SYT0ALQSo-00563-00157847-00158124 forms so one of the plans of the agenda q0SYT0ALQSo-00564-00158125-00158363 is to eliminate child trafficking q0SYT0ALQSo-00565-00158364-00158577 interesting that the United Nations q0SYT0ALQSo-00566-00158578-00158826 wants to be involved in this this point q0SYT0ALQSo-00567-00158827-00159181 is reiterated on 16.2 and abuse q0SYT0ALQSo-00568-00159182-00159424 exploitation trafficking and all forms q0SYT0ALQSo-00569-00159425-00159654 of violence against and torture of q0SYT0ALQSo-00570-00159655-00159922 children but this is the kicker here you q0SYT0ALQSo-00571-00159923-00160028 keep going down q0SYT0ALQSo-00572-00160029-00160299 16.8 broaden and strengthen the q0SYT0ALQSo-00573-00160300-00160536 participation of developing countries in q0SYT0ALQSo-00574-00160537-00160731 the institutions of global governance q0SYT0ALQSo-00575-00160732-00161232 16.9 by the year 2030 provide legal q0SYT0ALQSo-00576-00161233-00161487 identity for all including birth q0SYT0ALQSo-00577-00161488-00161900 registration legal identity for all we q0SYT0ALQSo-00578-00161901-00162125 just had one company start to actually q0SYT0ALQSo-00579-00162126-00162389 make RFID implantable chips available q0SYT0ALQSo-00580-00162390-00162590 for their employees but digging more q0SYT0ALQSo-00581-00162591-00162948 into this particular line item they want q0SYT0ALQSo-00582-00162949-00163272 to have everybody on a database by the q0SYT0ALQSo-00583-00163273-00163635 year 2030 and pedo gate is a great way q0SYT0ALQSo-00584-00163636-00163979 to get a lot of people to say okay you q0SYT0ALQSo-00585-00163980-00164187 know what I want my child to be q0SYT0ALQSo-00586-00164188-00164402 accounted for let's put him or her in q0SYT0ALQSo-00587-00164403-00164610 the system now will that lead to q0SYT0ALQSo-00588-00164611-00164769 microchipping children I don't know I q0SYT0ALQSo-00589-00164770-00164915 don't think most people are gonna accept q0SYT0ALQSo-00590-00164916-00165234 that in the next 10 years but with 5g q0SYT0ALQSo-00591-00165235-00165558 technology it is astronomically invasive q0SYT0ALQSo-00592-00165559-00165786 in terms of the Internet of Things q0SYT0ALQSo-00593-00165787-00165993 everything connecting to the internet q0SYT0ALQSo-00594-00165994-00166296 but also us being trackable identifiable q0SYT0ALQSo-00595-00166297-00166625 etc our privacy is gone and again I q0SYT0ALQSo-00596-00166626-00166908 titled this video Trump's New World q0SYT0ALQSo-00597-00166909-00167141 Order because Donald Trump as much as q0SYT0ALQSo-00598-00167142-00167343 I've been trying to root for the guy was q0SYT0ALQSo-00599-00167344-00167687 totally behind getting drones and 5g q0SYT0ALQSo-00600-00167688-00168012 technology out into the masses watch q0SYT0ALQSo-00601-00168013-00168769 this clip here q0SYT0ALQSo-00602-00168770-00169028 fully autonomous drone work on behalf of q0SYT0ALQSo-00603-00169029-00169304 John and between the Athletics treasure q0SYT0ALQSo-00604-00169305-00169484 controller job they might say look q0SYT0ALQSo-00605-00169485-00170093 president 25 years I know the drill we q0SYT0ALQSo-00606-00170094-00170269 didn't even know what cell phone was we q0SYT0ALQSo-00607-00170270-00170627 look today and we can actually just our q0SYT0ALQSo-00608-00170628-00170825 life is kind of evolved around the q0SYT0ALQSo-00609-00170826-00171056 technology it's life changing this drone q0SYT0ALQSo-00610-00171057-00171349 is life changing q0SYT0ALQSo-00611-00171350-00171593 we're finding out daily not in the q0SYT0ALQSo-00612-00171594-00171773 quarry side of things but in the q0SYT0ALQSo-00613-00171774-00171953 construction side of things and other q0SYT0ALQSo-00614-00171954-00172301 uses well we've actually started to q0SYT0ALQSo-00615-00172302-00172562 other businesses of all the same drill q0SYT0ALQSo-00616-00172563-00172844 just using in a different way so much q0SYT0ALQSo-00617-00172845-00173003 and yet right now drones are becoming q0SYT0ALQSo-00618-00173004-00173174 very powerful - I see where they're q0SYT0ALQSo-00619-00173175-00173363 lifting people I don't know about the q0SYT0ALQSo-00620-00173364-00173657 level of safety there but I see that but q0SYT0ALQSo-00621-00173658-00173807 also I guess that could be lifting very q0SYT0ALQSo-00622-00173808-00174647 heavy material this is thrown in q0SYT0ALQSo-00623-00174648-00174800 particular is about just being able to q0SYT0ALQSo-00624-00174801-00174971 collect air at the collagen serum as q0SYT0ALQSo-00625-00174972-00175160 well and being able to deliver that to q0SYT0ALQSo-00626-00175161-00175391 the user the way that they weren't able q0SYT0ALQSo-00627-00175392-00175508 to accomplish before q0SYT0ALQSo-00628-00175509-00175682 so John's able to get that work done and q0SYT0ALQSo-00629-00175683-00175877 literally minutes after the drone flies q0SYT0ALQSo-00630-00175878-00176123 versus usually we would take him days of q0SYT0ALQSo-00631-00176124-00176309 just manual labor to be able to q0SYT0ALQSo-00632-00176310-00176537 accomplish that say for a fantastic job q0SYT0ALQSo-00633-00176538-00177081 very much thank you Randall yes mr. q0SYT0ALQSo-00634-00177082-00177122 president q0SYT0ALQSo-00635-00177123-00177212 I'm going to tell you everything you q0SYT0ALQSo-00636-00177213-00177416 need to know about 5g technology about q0SYT0ALQSo-00637-00177417-00177827 two minutes okay serious tentative q0SYT0ALQSo-00638-00177828-00177872 things q0SYT0ALQSo-00639-00177873-00178121 groans Honda's cars or they require q0SYT0ALQSo-00640-00178122-00178293 different levels of speed environments q0SYT0ALQSo-00641-00178294-00178496 networks if you come over here this is a q0SYT0ALQSo-00642-00178497-00178682 residential neighborhood if you would q0SYT0ALQSo-00643-00178683-00178856 get the kind of speeds required today q0SYT0ALQSo-00644-00178857-00179129 he's like we have to take five with q0SYT0ALQSo-00645-00179130-00179270 every one of these houses to get that q0SYT0ALQSo-00646-00179271-00179570 kind of a nerd what 5g does says forget q0SYT0ALQSo-00647-00179571-00179759 about all that fiber out here get five q0SYT0ALQSo-00648-00179760-00180119 or ten this this is amol Salvage Marcel q0SYT0ALQSo-00649-00180120-00180287 is going to show you here this small q0SYT0ALQSo-00650-00180288-00180500 cell will broadcast this kind of q0SYT0ALQSo-00651-00180501-00180701 bandwidth to all these homes okay if you q0SYT0ALQSo-00652-00180702-00180969 no longer need to run fiber so you can q0SYT0ALQSo-00653-00180970-00181154 have speeds that are involved opposed to q0SYT0ALQSo-00654-00181155-00181334 what the fastest cable technology can q0SYT0ALQSo-00655-00181335-00181502 deliver today into the home with q0SYT0ALQSo-00656-00181503-00181748 wireless technology if you move into the q0SYT0ALQSo-00657-00181749-00181949 city what's happening you want to get q0SYT0ALQSo-00658-00181950-00182122 that bandwidth in there the same thing q0SYT0ALQSo-00659-00182123-00182331 every one of these buildings takes a q0SYT0ALQSo-00660-00182332-00182501 long time they get a close fringes q0SYT0ALQSo-00661-00182502-00183083 inside the box and so forth by G by G q0SYT0ALQSo-00662-00183084-00183341 says the long back all you need are q0SYT0ALQSo-00663-00183342-00183557 small cells inside the city and we can q0SYT0ALQSo-00664-00183558-00183704 line up these buildings here as well q0SYT0ALQSo-00665-00183705-00183744 right q0SYT0ALQSo-00666-00183745-00184082 but then as you move to Wi-Fi we have q0SYT0ALQSo-00667-00184083-00184271 Wi-Fi deployed in these buildings all q0SYT0ALQSo-00668-00184272-00184457 over the place soak up some food in how q0SYT0ALQSo-00669-00184458-00184721 the arrangement you can see the old big q0SYT0ALQSo-00670-00184722-00184931 cell technology sitting on top of q0SYT0ALQSo-00671-00184932-00185132 buildings broadcasting about the city q0SYT0ALQSo-00672-00185133-00185306 but now the street level q0SYT0ALQSo-00673-00185307-00185498 the customer is big whatever network q0SYT0ALQSo-00674-00185499-00185672 gives it a massive speed this can be an q0SYT0ALQSo-00675-00185673-00185885 autonomous car we need a number of q0SYT0ALQSo-00676-00185886-00186125 things so the as the car moves it gets q0SYT0ALQSo-00677-00186126-00186281 moved back and forth between the q0SYT0ALQSo-00678-00186282-00186512 into another 5g deployment and you're q0SYT0ALQSo-00679-00186513-00186698 getting these kind of multiple gigabit q0SYT0ALQSo-00680-00186699-00186928 speeds about cities without all the q0SYT0ALQSo-00681-00186929-00187103 fiber having to be deployed into all q0SYT0ALQSo-00682-00187104-00187343 these people really accelerates it makes q0SYT0ALQSo-00683-00187344-00187690 us get the market much matcha so five q0SYT0ALQSo-00684-00187691-00188168 years ago ten years ago you could and q0SYT0ALQSo-00685-00188169-00188432 this is 2018 full deploying this kind of q0SYT0ALQSo-00686-00188433-00188636 configuration the companies in here are q0SYT0ALQSo-00687-00188637-00189002 and in 2020 it becomes a bull so this q0SYT0ALQSo-00688-00189003-00189182 handset won't be getting there has to be q0SYT0ALQSo-00689-00189183-00189422 a tremendous construction ultimately q0SYT0ALQSo-00690-00189423-00189647 it's a huge construction saying you q0SYT0ALQSo-00691-00189648-00189797 don't have to deploy all this fiber you q0SYT0ALQSo-00692-00189798-00189995 see this little sale sign here we're q0SYT0ALQSo-00693-00189996-00190153 going from deploying these big scale q0SYT0ALQSo-00694-00190154-00190366 sites and towers to the point eight all q0SYT0ALQSo-00695-00190367-00190634 over cities that's what Marsellus really q0SYT0ALQSo-00696-00190635-00190898 what this technology looks like now mr. q0SYT0ALQSo-00697-00190899-00191203 president if I can summarize budget is q0SYT0ALQSo-00698-00191204-00191456 275 billion dollars of investment in the q0SYT0ALQSo-00699-00191457-00191684 next seven years they created on three q0SYT0ALQSo-00700-00191685-00191909 million new jobs and the contribution of q0SYT0ALQSo-00701-00191910-00192083 500 billion to the GDP of the United q0SYT0ALQSo-00702-00192084-00192390 States what is different between 40th q0SYT0ALQSo-00703-00192391-00192656 1940 those were enormous towers that q0SYT0ALQSo-00704-00192657-00192815 look quite all the way we're going to q0SYT0ALQSo-00705-00192816-00193054 deploy billions of this hundreds of q0SYT0ALQSo-00706-00193055-00193232 thousands and millions of small cells q0SYT0ALQSo-00707-00193233-00193475 all over the United States the problem q0SYT0ALQSo-00708-00193476-00193712 that we have is it takes us one year to q0SYT0ALQSo-00709-00193713-00193903 get a city to give us a permit but it q0SYT0ALQSo-00710-00193904-00194153 takes one hour to install and unless we q0SYT0ALQSo-00711-00194154-00194339 can install the middle class you know q0SYT0ALQSo-00713-00197482-00197725 the dictionary base is something that q0SYT0ALQSo-00714-00197726-00198103 picture so it's possible to so this is q0SYT0ALQSo-00715-00198104-00198396 one you need to fix this and that's what q0SYT0ALQSo-00716-00198397-00198673 we can do a recommendation to the cities q0SYT0ALQSo-00717-00198674-00198889 of the country to get it fell me and q0SYT0ALQSo-00718-00198890-00199141 Karen maybe a little bit faster because q0SYT0ALQSo-00719-00199142-00199441 this is truly a great process but why q0SYT0ALQSo-00720-00199442-00199570 don't we do a verse from letter of q0SYT0ALQSo-00721-00199571-00201088 recommendation so they can get something q0SYT0ALQSo-00722-00201089-00201601 similar we take sometimes fifteen to q0SYT0ALQSo-00723-00201602-00201757 twenty years to any permits to build a q0SYT0ALQSo-00724-00201758-00202198 small Road and we tried to bring it down q0SYT0ALQSo-00725-00202199-00202591 to one year maximum of one year and you q0SYT0ALQSo-00726-00202592-00202780 have a say this is much easier that's q0SYT0ALQSo-00727-00202781-00202921 all this is really much easier q0SYT0ALQSo-00728-00202922-00203248 moving west is a theory fourteen q0SYT0ALQSo-00729-00203249-00203614 we lost region every country China q0SYT0ALQSo-00730-00203615-00203833 Europe listen is streamlining the q0SYT0ALQSo-00731-00203834-00204007 process to get there this will be going q0SYT0ALQSo-00732-00204008-00204265 in so many other matters but other q0SYT0ALQSo-00733-00204266-00204376 companies from you q0SYT0ALQSo-00734-00204377-00207034 we only open in the US now the folks q0SYT0ALQSo-00735-00207035-00207238 here promoting the 5g technology are q0SYT0ALQSo-00736-00207239-00207373 saying that they're having trouble q0SYT0ALQSo-00737-00207373-00207631 getting permits to install these things q0SYT0ALQSo-00738-00207632-00207961 because of legislation certain cities q0SYT0ALQSo-00739-00207962-00208213 certain locations taking much longer to q0SYT0ALQSo-00740-00208214-00208464 allow these things to take place and as q0SYT0ALQSo-00741-00208465-00208606 you saw early on there are certain q0SYT0ALQSo-00742-00208607-00208767 communities that don't even want them or q0SYT0ALQSo-00743-00208769-00208989 are highly skeptical of this sort of q0SYT0ALQSo-00744-00208990-00209257 technology becoming part of their towns q0SYT0ALQSo-00745-00209258-00209569 their neighborhoods because the way this q0SYT0ALQSo-00746-00209569-00209776 works they're gonna have to have a lot q0SYT0ALQSo-00747-00209777-00210117 more smaller pods instead of one giant q0SYT0ALQSo-00748-00210119-00210442 tower to get the 5g technology to work q0SYT0ALQSo-00749-00210442-00210784 effectively and so the infrastructure is q0SYT0ALQSo-00750-00210785-00211090 much more invasive but here's Trump just q0SYT0ALQSo-00751-00211091-00211242 saying hey here's what we can do let's q0SYT0ALQSo-00752-00211244-00211405 write a letter of recommendation let's q0SYT0ALQSo-00753-00211406-00211531 move this forward let's push this q0SYT0ALQSo-00754-00211532-00211723 forward and keeping that in mind with q0SYT0ALQSo-00755-00211723-00211936 this idea that he's gonna rebuild and q0SYT0ALQSo-00756-00211937-00212173 create jobs and everything else I'm just q0SYT0ALQSo-00757-00212173-00212367 asking you guys to stay level-headed q0SYT0ALQSo-00758-00212369-00212560 about this I know there's a lot of Trump q0SYT0ALQSo-00759-00212561-00212707 supporters I know there's a lot of Trump q0SYT0ALQSo-00760-00212708-00212905 haters and the bottom line is if you're q0SYT0ALQSo-00761-00212906-00213163 a trump supporter I understand your q0SYT0ALQSo-00762-00213164-00213334 perspective but you got to face the q0SYT0ALQSo-00763-00213335-00213573 facts here and see that he is also part q0SYT0ALQSo-00764-00213575-00213784 of the system and he is also building a q0SYT0ALQSo-00765-00213785-00213976 part of the system that has not been q0SYT0ALQSo-00766-00213977-00214159 discussed too much by too many people q0SYT0ALQSo-00767-00214160-00214432 and also that if you're a Trump hater it q0SYT0ALQSo-00768-00214433-00214594 doesn't mean you're necessarily a q0SYT0ALQSo-00769-00214594-00214840 liberal okay there is a massive q0SYT0ALQSo-00770-00214841-00215053 psychological operation taking place and q0SYT0ALQSo-00771-00215054-00215251 that's why I bring up Peto gate and q0SYT0ALQSo-00772-00215252-00215473 pizza gates as a possible psychological q0SYT0ALQSo-00773-00215473-00215758 operation in order to create a solution q0SYT0ALQSo-00774-00215759-00216021 that benefits a 2030 sustainable q0SYT0ALQSo-00775-00216023-00216340 development un agenda which clearly does q0SYT0ALQSo-00776-00216341-00216535 not have our best interest in mind it is q0SYT0ALQSo-00777-00216536-00216763 clearly what the big new Burzynski q0SYT0ALQSo-00778-00216764-00217036 wanted in the technocracy and of course q0SYT0ALQSo-00779-00217037-00217264 tie in to all that the topic of block q0SYT0ALQSo-00780-00217265-00217531 chain of cryptocurrencies q0SYT0ALQSo-00781-00217532-00217711 of the internet-of-things artificial q0SYT0ALQSo-00782-00217712-00217981 intelligence virtual realities augmented q0SYT0ALQSo-00783-00217982-00218158 reality Zahl the things that we touch on q0SYT0ALQSo-00784-00218159-00218377 on this channel those will be enhanced q0SYT0ALQSo-00785-00218378-00218632 they will become faster they will become q0SYT0ALQSo-00786-00218633-00218941 more prominent more invasive and so what q0SYT0ALQSo-00787-00218942-00219166 I am proposing is that we all start to q0SYT0ALQSo-00788-00219167-00219433 if you haven't already begin developing q0SYT0ALQSo-00789-00219434-00219700 skills to be self sustainable that is to q0SYT0ALQSo-00790-00219701-00219894 live off the land whether it's to have a q0SYT0ALQSo-00791-00219896-00220119 small garden in your backyard or have q0SYT0ALQSo-00792-00220121-00220419 mechanisms to get clean water just start q0SYT0ALQSo-00793-00220421-00220582 moving in that direction if you haven't q0SYT0ALQSo-00794-00220583-00220840 already because that's the actual smart q0SYT0ALQSo-00795-00220841-00221083 thing not smart cities and I'm not q0SYT0ALQSo-00796-00221084-00221266 trying to sit here and be a fear monger q0SYT0ALQSo-00797-00221267-00221398 I'm not trying to say oh it's all gonna q0SYT0ALQSo-00798-00221398-00221653 end fear for your fear most likely we q0SYT0ALQSo-00799-00221654-00222010 are gonna be using 5g tech all right but q0SYT0ALQSo-00800-00222011-00222262 there has to be a way for us to get away q0SYT0ALQSo-00801-00222263-00222535 from it and if that means moving to an q0SYT0ALQSo-00802-00222536-00222792 area where this infrastructure is not so q0SYT0ALQSo-00803-00222794-00223015 invasive we're gonna have to think about q0SYT0ALQSo-00804-00223016-00223204 that everybody has their own personal q0SYT0ALQSo-00805-00223205-00223375 responsibility when it comes to this q0SYT0ALQSo-00806-00223376-00223642 your own personal convictions so I'm not q0SYT0ALQSo-00807-00223642-00223825 gonna tell you exactly what to do that's q0SYT0ALQSo-00808-00223826-00224083 up to you but it is important to start q0SYT0ALQSo-00809-00224084-00224326 thinking about this because by 2020 they q0SYT0ALQSo-00810-00224327-00224650 want to roll out 5g and 10 gigs per q0SYT0ALQSo-00811-00224651-00224950 second upload speed is ridiculous and q0SYT0ALQSo-00812-00224951-00225277 partly awesome I get to download a 4k q0SYT0ALQSo-00813-00225278-00225484 movie in a couple seconds instead of q0SYT0ALQSo-00814-00225485-00225696 waiting an hour or whatever but is that q0SYT0ALQSo-00815-00225698-00225846 really worth it is that worth your q0SYT0ALQSo-00816-00225848-00226051 sovereignty is that worth your freedom q0SYT0ALQSo-00817-00226052-00226309 is that worth your privacy things to q0SYT0ALQSo-00818-00226310-00226596 think about get a hard copy of the Bible q0SYT0ALQSo-00819-00226598-00226765 if you don't have it already that's q0SYT0ALQSo-00820-00226766-00226915 gonna be the most important thing as q0SYT0ALQSo-00821-00226916-00227209 these things continue to develop and the q0SYT0ALQSo-00822-00227210-00227554 enslavement program and the Prince of q0SYT0ALQSo-00823-00227555-00227911 the power of the air continues to build q0SYT0ALQSo-00824-00227912-00228921 a satanic Kingdom on earth q0SYT0ALQSo-00825-00228921-00229365 but one-third of its 4G deployment but q0SYT0ALQSo-00826-00229366-00229590 laurels are not good resting places so I q0SYT0ALQSo-00827-00229591-00229905 think we have to start moving on 5g q0SYT0ALQSo-00828-00229906-00230265 because today the bulk of our spectrum q0SYT0ALQSo-00829-00230266-00230510 activity when it comes to mobile takes q0SYT0ALQSo-00830-00230511-00230955 place at 3 gigahertz or below but coming q0SYT0ALQSo-00831-00230956-00231071 from Graham you're gonna have to bust q0SYT0ALQSo-00832-00231073-00231383 through that ceiling all the way up to q0SYT0ALQSo-00833-00231384-00231632 25 gigahertz perhaps even its high and I q0SYT0ALQSo-00834-00231633-00231912 can give your her experiment to infinity q0SYT0ALQSo-00835-00231913-00232142 and beyond and then we're going to have q0SYT0ALQSo-00836-00232144-00232341 to combine those stratospheric q0SYT0ALQSo-00837-00232342-00232740 frequencies with dense networks of small q0SYT0ALQSo-00838-00232741-00233096 cells and if we do that right we will q0SYT0ALQSo-00839-00233098-00233282 have higher speeds with our wireless q0SYT0ALQSo-00840-00233283-00233471 networks than we have ever seen before q0SYT0ALQSo-00841-00233471-00233790 and I think that is what 5g is going to q0SYT0ALQSo-00842-00233791-00233957 look like and I think we 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q4o1vE7YBkg-00005-00001844-00002174 that you can see on this on this box so q4o1vE7YBkg-00006-00002175-00002456 first of all just have a look at his big q4o1vE7YBkg-00007-00002457-00002921 box as you can see it's huge on the back q4o1vE7YBkg-00008-00002922-00003079 of the box you have a little q4o1vE7YBkg-00009-00003080-00003368 introduction in both French and English q4o1vE7YBkg-00010-00003369-00003697 because all of the expansions have both q4o1vE7YBkg-00011-00003698-00003956 languages French and English it's only q4o1vE7YBkg-00012-00003957-00004285 in the co box that you have one language q4o1vE7YBkg-00013-00004286-00004552 so in this one you will have everything q4o1vE7YBkg-00014-00004553-00004835 in English and in French which means two q4o1vE7YBkg-00015-00004836-00005668 booklets two sets of cards let's open q4o1vE7YBkg-00016-00005669-00008065 this big box q4o1vE7YBkg-00017-00008066-00008555 you have to book it's in French and in q4o1vE7YBkg-00018-00008556-00010328 English the devil what's in this book so q4o1vE7YBkg-00019-00010329-00010754 here you have the legion I think these q4o1vE7YBkg-00020-00010755-00011083 are the demonic Legion so this is a new q4o1vE7YBkg-00021-00011084-00011480 unit that was introduced in this in this q4o1vE7YBkg-00022-00011481-00011846 box on this scenario so this is the big q4o1vE7YBkg-00023-00011847-00012290 scenario involving the devil involving q4o1vE7YBkg-00024-00012291-00012719 the Pope involving some angels q4o1vE7YBkg-00025-00012720-00012974 I think it's Gabriel who will try and q4o1vE7YBkg-00026-00012975-00013422 help the Pope q4o1vE7YBkg-00027-00013423-00013808 so it's one scenario but you will also q4o1vE7YBkg-00028-00013809-00014279 have a scenario and online scene are you q4o1vE7YBkg-00029-00014280-00014813 using the devil and I think it's you q4o1vE7YBkg-00030-00014813-00015188 play against an AI and it says so the q4o1vE7YBkg-00031-00015188-00015388 devil will be controlled by a DI and q4o1vE7YBkg-00032-00015390-00015665 several players I think it's two or q4o1vE7YBkg-00033-00015666-00015893 three players will play against against q4o1vE7YBkg-00034-00015894-00016196 him so this will be online and of course q4o1vE7YBkg-00035-00016197-00016613 you can use the devil not only in this q4o1vE7YBkg-00036-00016614-00016950 scenario but also in the mass battle q4o1vE7YBkg-00037-00016951-00017272 mode that will be online very soon as q4o1vE7YBkg-00038-00017273-00017315 well q4o1vE7YBkg-00039-00017316-00017642 so I think he's around q4o1vE7YBkg-00040-00017643-00018116 I think he's around 1,200 points pretty q4o1vE7YBkg-00041-00018117-00018392 much less than that so that means he's q4o1vE7YBkg-00042-00018393-00018683 almost an army by himself the moose yeah q4o1vE7YBkg-00043-00018684-00018947 so if you want to have him in an army q4o1vE7YBkg-00044-00018948-00019255 you would better play the 2000 q4o1vE7YBkg-00045-00019256-00019658 point lists what we have also of course q4o1vE7YBkg-00046-00019659-00020050 of account so let's see with the because q4o1vE7YBkg-00047-00020051-00021769 first okay so we have them in English q4o1vE7YBkg-00048-00021770-00022697 and then in French the French car and q4o1vE7YBkg-00049-00022698-00023189 then you have the intrigue cards in q4o1vE7YBkg-00050-00023190-00024197 English and in French let me give you a q4o1vE7YBkg-00051-00024198-00024638 quick look let's have a quick look at q4o1vE7YBkg-00052-00024639-00026249 the French version of this booklet we q4o1vE7YBkg-00053-00026250-00027373 also have some unique cards and it's the q4o1vE7YBkg-00054-00027374-00027632 demonic Legion as I said the Legion q4o1vE7YBkg-00055-00027633-00028345 diamond rank and finally the impressive q4o1vE7YBkg-00056-00028347-00028748 thing of course is the devil himself and q4o1vE7YBkg-00057-00028749-00028937 the minis well I will first start with q4o1vE7YBkg-00058-00028938-00029231 the small box just to finish with there q4o1vE7YBkg-00059-00029232-00029683 the appearance of the devil himself q4o1vE7YBkg-00060-00029684-00030119 so here what do we have we have a new q4o1vE7YBkg-00061-00030120-00030401 house a new big house as you know in the q4o1vE7YBkg-00062-00030402-00030646 game we only have one of these and we q4o1vE7YBkg-00063-00030647-00031055 have two small houses or Foe farms so q4o1vE7YBkg-00064-00031056-00031246 this with this is a new one that you q4o1vE7YBkg-00065-00031247-00031529 have here we have the boots because they q4o1vE7YBkg-00066-00031530-00031823 can turn returning to ruins if the devil q4o1vE7YBkg-00067-00031824-00032365 destroys them so you have some new 3d q4o1vE7YBkg-00068-00032366-00034994 series because this the scenario will q4o1vE7YBkg-00069-00034995-00035336 use two big houses so you need this one q4o1vE7YBkg-00070-00035337-00035740 and then small houses I think and then q4o1vE7YBkg-00071-00035741-00036344 ruins Oh before I open the big big box q4o1vE7YBkg-00072-00036345-00036626 let me show you that this they're q4o1vE7YBkg-00073-00036627-00037000 awesome punch boards as well some new q4o1vE7YBkg-00074-00037001-00038043 sky hexes new new hexes also with q4o1vE7YBkg-00075-00038044-00038424 a big a big footprint from from the q4o1vE7YBkg-00076-00038425-00039243 devil and we have of course the the q4o1vE7YBkg-00077-00039244-00039657 inside of the house and we have of q4o1vE7YBkg-00078-00039658-00040097 course and I can show you very easy to q4o1vE7YBkg-00079-00040098-00041058 unpunched we have the devil he's pretty q4o1vE7YBkg-00080-00041059-00041268 powerful I can tell you he's one of the q4o1vE7YBkg-00081-00041269-00041433 most powerful men in the game he's q4o1vE7YBkg-00082-00041434-00041868 almost as powerful as as the dragon q4o1vE7YBkg-00083-00041869-00042096 which is another form of the devil q4o1vE7YBkg-00084-00042097-00042447 himself and because you're waiting for q4o1vE7YBkg-00085-00042448-00044040 that big box so let me show you these q4o1vE7YBkg-00086-00044041-00044238 are this is the pack with the little q4o1vE7YBkg-00087-00044239-00044637 demonic Legion how many we have one two q4o1vE7YBkg-00088-00044638-00045490 three four five six five count correctly q4o1vE7YBkg-00089-00045491-00045879 and we have the devil himself q4o1vE7YBkg-00090-00045880-00046285 of course he's tied in with a metallic q4o1vE7YBkg-00091-00046286-00048241 thread so that it doesn't move when it's q4o1vE7YBkg-00092-00048242-00048395 impressive q4o1vE7YBkg-00093-00048396-00048797 this mini is it's huge actually you know q4o1vE7YBkg-00094-00048798-00048995 you could play him in another game that q4o1vE7YBkg-00095-00048996-00049202 I'm thinking of and it would be perfect q4o1vE7YBkg-00096-00049203-00049526 but he's really big not only for 15 q4o1vE7YBkg-00097-00049527-00050015 Mille miniatures but even for a normal a q4o1vE7YBkg-00098-00050016-00050229 usual standard the thirty two millimeter q4o1vE7YBkg-00099-00050230-00050477 game he would still be huge q4o1vE7YBkg-00100-00050478-00050846 he's absolutely huge let's put him here q4o1vE7YBkg-00101-00050847-00051532 on the table and I will open I can a q4o1vE7YBkg-00102-00051533-00052181 pack of the demonic kitchen mini so you q4o1vE7YBkg-00103-00052182-00052799 can have a look at the size so now you q4o1vE7YBkg-00104-00052800-00052998 can see what the normal sized mini will q4o1vE7YBkg-00105-00052999-00053855 will be next to him even the house while q4o1vE7YBkg-00106-00053856-00054287 he's actually stomping on a church he's q4o1vE7YBkg-00107-00054288-00054560 the devil what do you expect q4o1vE7YBkg-00108-00054561-00054987 so yes it's it's gorgeous q4o1vE7YBkg-00109-00054988-00055248 very super detailed mini I'm very very q4o1vE7YBkg-00110-00055249-00055463 impressed and so excited to have it here q4o1vE7YBkg-00111-00055464-00055757 finally and I can't wait to play it in q4o1vE7YBkg-00112-00055758-00056117 one of the battle modes game that we q4o1vE7YBkg-00113-00056118-00056660 filmed as an eye we had the death q4o1vE7YBkg-00114-00056661-00057001 you know he was there Oh in one of the q4o1vE7YBkg-00115-00057002-00057181 games that we film I think it was not q4o1vE7YBkg-00116-00057182-00057532 with as I think it was with our it was q4o1vE7YBkg-00117-00057533-00057862 very very impressive so I look forward q4o1vE7YBkg-00118-00057863-00058168 to playing him again and seeing the q4o1vE7YBkg-00119-00058169-00058511 other gigantic creatures q5FNcWtn3GU-00000-00000248-00000399 and go ahead q5FNcWtn3GU-00001-00000400-00000582 good morning saints please stand for q5FNcWtn3GU-00002-00000583-00000734 prayer q5FNcWtn3GU-00003-00000735-00000886 today is the feast of saint jude q5FNcWtn3GU-00004-00000888-00001087 thaddeus saint jude please pray for all q5FNcWtn3GU-00005-00001088-00001207 of us and especially for those q5FNcWtn3GU-00006-00001208-00001358 celebrating a birthday today q5FNcWtn3GU-00007-00001359-00001630 happy birthday to gracie wegerman let us q5FNcWtn3GU-00008-00001632-00001687 pray q5FNcWtn3GU-00009-00001688-00001839 in the name of the father and the son q5FNcWtn3GU-00010-00001839-00002071 and the holy spirit amen q5FNcWtn3GU-00011-00002072-00002255 lord you gave us the great gift of free q5FNcWtn3GU-00012-00002256-00002479 will that we may love you as you love q5FNcWtn3GU-00013-00002480-00002655 help us to form our consciousness to q5FNcWtn3GU-00014-00002656-00002807 align with your divine will q5FNcWtn3GU-00015-00002808-00002975 and not to abuse our gift of choice to q5FNcWtn3GU-00016-00002976-00003247 work against your plan for our lives q5FNcWtn3GU-00017-00003247-00003495 together we pray heavenly father we q5FNcWtn3GU-00018-00003496-00003638 praise you and give you thanks for the q5FNcWtn3GU-00019-00003639-00003831 blessings you have bestowed upon us q5FNcWtn3GU-00020-00003832-00004006 keep us accordant with truth and active q5FNcWtn3GU-00021-00004007-00004199 in charity as exemplified by our patron q5FNcWtn3GU-00022-00004200-00004335 saint thomas aquinas q5FNcWtn3GU-00023-00004336-00004535 we ask this through christ our lord amen q5FNcWtn3GU-00024-00004536-00004679 in the name of the father and the son q5FNcWtn3GU-00025-00004680-00004870 and the holy spirit amen q5FNcWtn3GU-00026-00004871-00005038 please join me as we honor our flag and q5FNcWtn3GU-00027-00005039-00005279 country i pledge allegiance to the flag q5FNcWtn3GU-00028-00005280-00005431 of the united states of america q5FNcWtn3GU-00029-00005432-00005622 and to the republic for which it stands q5FNcWtn3GU-00030-00005623-00005815 one nation under god indivisible q5FNcWtn3GU-00031-00005816-00006022 with liberty and justice for all have a q5FNcWtn3GU-00032-00006023-00007487 great day saints q5FNcWtn3GU-00033-00007488-00007670 good afternoon saints welcome back to q5FNcWtn3GU-00034-00007672-00007814 the halo midday show q5FNcWtn3GU-00035-00007815-00008063 today is wednesday october 28th in our q5FNcWtn3GU-00036-00008064-00008263 third day of halloween q5FNcWtn3GU-00037-00008264-00008423 your girls volleyball took home an q5FNcWtn3GU-00038-00008424-00008583 incredible win last night against st q5FNcWtn3GU-00039-00008584-00008759 james to go to the state tournament in q5FNcWtn3GU-00040-00008760-00008910 salina kansas q5FNcWtn3GU-00041-00008911-00009095 the first game was a close one but we q5FNcWtn3GU-00042-00009096-00009303 took a commanding lead in the second one q5FNcWtn3GU-00043-00009304-00009471 the thunder made their push in the third q5FNcWtn3GU-00044-00009472-00009663 grade making it 2-1 saints q5FNcWtn3GU-00045-00009664-00009839 the saints finally took down the thunder q5FNcWtn3GU-00046-00009840-00010014 in the fourth game winning it by four q5FNcWtn3GU-00047-00010015-00010087 points q5FNcWtn3GU-00048-00010088-00010263 we'll send it to timmy for a post-game q5FNcWtn3GU-00049-00010264-00010599 interview with ava martin q5FNcWtn3GU-00050-00010600-00010878 ava you just came off a huge win to take q5FNcWtn3GU-00051-00010879-00011046 you to state q5FNcWtn3GU-00052-00011047-00011246 what was the biggest part of winning q5FNcWtn3GU-00053-00011247-00011399 that game against st james q5FNcWtn3GU-00054-00011400-00011710 um i would say eliminating our errors q5FNcWtn3GU-00055-00011711-00011895 staying consistent and then stopping q5FNcWtn3GU-00056-00011896-00012038 them from getting on runs q5FNcWtn3GU-00057-00012039-00012319 agreed and now you guys kind of you know q5FNcWtn3GU-00058-00012320-00012351 fell q5FNcWtn3GU-00059-00012352-00012559 down in the third set a little bit how q5FNcWtn3GU-00060-00012560-00012719 did you stay positive during that whole q5FNcWtn3GU-00061-00012720-00012927 time well we all just got really down q5FNcWtn3GU-00062-00012928-00013079 and started getting nervous and we all q5FNcWtn3GU-00063-00013080-00013303 had to just take a deep breath calm down q5FNcWtn3GU-00064-00013304-00013494 and forget that all the fans were here q5FNcWtn3GU-00065-00013495-00013655 and just focus on earthquakes q5FNcWtn3GU-00066-00013656-00013879 now up there today i coined a term q5FNcWtn3GU-00067-00013880-00014079 whenever you slam it really hard called q5FNcWtn3GU-00068-00014080-00014319 the martin special so when you're going q5FNcWtn3GU-00069-00014319-00014479 up about to slam the ball at 100 miles q5FNcWtn3GU-00070-00014480-00014647 an hour at some kid's face q5FNcWtn3GU-00071-00014647-00014799 you know what what's going through your q5FNcWtn3GU-00072-00014800-00014919 head right before you about to make q5FNcWtn3GU-00073-00014919-00015119 contact um i'm just thinking looking at q5FNcWtn3GU-00074-00015119-00015263 the core seeing what's open q5FNcWtn3GU-00075-00015263-00015422 and trying to avoid the block it's been q5FNcWtn3GU-00076-00015423-00015638 hard ava martin q5FNcWtn3GU-00077-00015640-00015966 mvp of the game she's taking her team to q5FNcWtn3GU-00078-00015968-00016230 sub state no we're going to real estate q5FNcWtn3GU-00079-00016231-00016327 this is the big deal q5FNcWtn3GU-00080-00016328-00016911 well congratulations and thank you q5FNcWtn3GU-00081-00016912-00017167 thank you ava and thank you timmy we q5FNcWtn3GU-00082-00017168-00017335 will have a girls basketball meeting for q5FNcWtn3GU-00083-00017336-00017494 all girls interested in trying out for q5FNcWtn3GU-00084-00017495-00017647 the basketball team next tuesday q5FNcWtn3GU-00085-00017648-00017814 november 3rd in the main gym q5FNcWtn3GU-00086-00017815-00018014 immediately after school if you are q5FNcWtn3GU-00087-00018015-00018199 unable to attend see coach hetzel in q5FNcWtn3GU-00088-00018200-00018367 room 150 q5FNcWtn3GU-00089-00018368-00018535 campus ministry prays a decade of the q5FNcWtn3GU-00090-00018536-00018711 rosary every day after school in the q5FNcWtn3GU-00091-00018712-00018950 chapel from 305 to 3 15. q5FNcWtn3GU-00092-00018951-00019255 join us all are welcome today saying of q5FNcWtn3GU-00093-00019256-00019455 the day is saint jude thaius q5FNcWtn3GU-00094-00019456-00019671 biblical scholars agree that saint jude q5FNcWtn3GU-00095-00019672-00019879 called thaddeus the apostle was the son q5FNcWtn3GU-00096-00019880-00020055 of clopis and his wife mary q5FNcWtn3GU-00097-00020056-00020294 who was virgin mary's cousin ancient q5FNcWtn3GU-00098-00020295-00020494 writers tell us that he preached the q5FNcWtn3GU-00099-00020495-00020871 gospel in judea judea samaria q5FNcWtn3GU-00100-00020872-00021303 edumaya syria mesopotamia and libya q5FNcWtn3GU-00101-00021304-00021478 saint jude is the patron saint of the q5FNcWtn3GU-00102-00021479-00021663 impossible and is frequently asked to q5FNcWtn3GU-00103-00021664-00021958 intercede for loss or hopeless causes q5FNcWtn3GU-00104-00021959-00022094 now it's time for the fun fact of the q5FNcWtn3GU-00105-00022095-00022303 day did you know that banging your head q5FNcWtn3GU-00106-00022304-00022575 against the wall for one hour burns 150 q5FNcWtn3GU-00107-00022576-00022671 calories q5FNcWtn3GU-00108-00022672-00022807 bet you didn't know that because i had q5FNcWtn3GU-00109-00022808-00023039 no idea thanks for watching today's q5FNcWtn3GU-00110-00023040-00023191 midday show we'll be back tomorrow with q5FNcWtn3GU-00111-00023192-00023407 more announcements i'm emma don't forget q5FNcWtn3GU-00112-00023408-00024072 we'll find a way to make today great qseDYwYABVQ-00000-00000234-00000607 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00001-00000608-00000734 good i think this chopper is coming for qseDYwYABVQ-00002-00000735-00001837 me now qseDYwYABVQ-00003-00001838-00002183 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00004-00002184-00002399 yo what's going on youtube very merry qseDYwYABVQ-00005-00002400-00002518 christmas to you guys qseDYwYABVQ-00006-00002519-00002671 two things i want to talk about with the qseDYwYABVQ-00007-00002672-00002831 christmas number one qseDYwYABVQ-00008-00002832-00003031 be thankful for what you have i know qseDYwYABVQ-00009-00003032-00003206 it's been a very negative year in the qseDYwYABVQ-00010-00003207-00003247 news qseDYwYABVQ-00011-00003247-00003390 kovid's going on the world's in a qseDYwYABVQ-00012-00003392-00003551 pandemic but be thankful for your qseDYwYABVQ-00013-00003552-00003686 friends and family and everything you qseDYwYABVQ-00014-00003688-00003870 have going and number two we're gonna be qseDYwYABVQ-00015-00003871-00003967 doing a giveaway qseDYwYABVQ-00016-00003968-00004295 25 psn xbox or pc qseDYwYABVQ-00017-00004296-00004479 gift card tune into my twitter to see qseDYwYABVQ-00018-00004480-00004654 details on that i'm going to be posting qseDYwYABVQ-00019-00004655-00004759 that in the coming days qseDYwYABVQ-00020-00004760-00005006 awesome gameplay here we land superstore qseDYwYABVQ-00021-00005007-00005135 get a bunch of kills qseDYwYABVQ-00022-00005136-00005375 go to the gulag win the 1v1 come back qseDYwYABVQ-00023-00005376-00005551 and slay out at military base and get qseDYwYABVQ-00024-00005552-00005718 like 14 kills within the first three qseDYwYABVQ-00025-00005719-00005822 minutes so qseDYwYABVQ-00026-00005823-00005999 um if you made it this far please like qseDYwYABVQ-00027-00006000-00006206 subscribe comment and i'll see you guys qseDYwYABVQ-00028-00006207-00006670 merry christmas qseDYwYABVQ-00029-00006672-00006975 fun place we're going the style qseDYwYABVQ-00030-00006976-00008087 i gotta mark it back qseDYwYABVQ-00031-00008088-00009887 single shooter qseDYwYABVQ-00032-00009888-00010191 let's rotate towards the dots you're on qseDYwYABVQ-00033-00010192-00010966 your own right now qseDYwYABVQ-00034-00010967-00011310 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00035-00011311-00011455 i have the right joe i'm just holding it qseDYwYABVQ-00036-00011456-00011783 for a sec all right qseDYwYABVQ-00037-00011784-00011910 teammates in the kool-aid they're about qseDYwYABVQ-00038-00011911-00012861 the forward they can redeploy qseDYwYABVQ-00039-00012862-00013686 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00040-00013687-00013822 sounds like he's behind us coming where qseDYwYABVQ-00041-00013823-00014341 we just came from qseDYwYABVQ-00042-00014343-00015483 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00043-00015484-00016207 i'm you're okay qseDYwYABVQ-00044-00016208-00016615 enemy soldier incoming shot plates on me qseDYwYABVQ-00045-00016616-00017396 under fire qseDYwYABVQ-00046-00017397-00017783 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00047-00017784-00018094 on the forklift inside on the forklift qseDYwYABVQ-00048-00018095-00018605 come on shake it off qseDYwYABVQ-00049-00018606-00019647 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00050-00019648-00019999 i don't know where he went get back to qseDYwYABVQ-00051-00020000-00020350 it qseDYwYABVQ-00052-00020351-00022022 holy [__] oh yo yo uh to the left qseDYwYABVQ-00053-00022023-00022494 you're okay enemy uav overhead qseDYwYABVQ-00054-00022495-00023986 they're pushing qseDYwYABVQ-00055-00023987-00025294 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00056-00025295-00025503 he was too big cracked survive and you qseDYwYABVQ-00057-00025504-00025702 can redeploy qseDYwYABVQ-00058-00025704-00025950 listen up soldier winning you return to qseDYwYABVQ-00059-00025951-00028127 the front line qseDYwYABVQ-00060-00028127-00030646 moving qseDYwYABVQ-00061-00030647-00031338 oh man qseDYwYABVQ-00062-00031339-00031895 [Music] qseDYwYABVQ-00064-00035128-00035287 he's the king and he's getting hammered qseDYwYABVQ-00065-00035288-00035446 by people chasing them qseDYwYABVQ-00066-00035447-00035610 so we got to move quick here qseDYwYABVQ-00067-00035611-00035927 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00068-00035928-00036510 let's go run him over oh yeah qseDYwYABVQ-00069-00036511-00037655 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00070-00037656-00037883 he's ready he's out on this side of the qseDYwYABVQ-00071-00037884-00038517 wall qseDYwYABVQ-00072-00038518-00038703 [Music] qseDYwYABVQ-00073-00038704-00039015 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00074-00039016-00041298 didn't i kill camels out of white qseDYwYABVQ-00075-00041299-00041799 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00076-00041800-00042083 i'm going for the run over you going qseDYwYABVQ-00077-00042084-00043055 foot qseDYwYABVQ-00078-00043056-00043199 yeah he's pushing the wall right where qseDYwYABVQ-00079-00043200-00043984 we got that last guy qseDYwYABVQ-00080-00043985-00044895 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00081-00044896-00045143 hey did you get that fall the guy on you qseDYwYABVQ-00082-00045144-00045271 uh qseDYwYABVQ-00083-00045272-00045702 oh [__] there's one more clipping qseDYwYABVQ-00084-00045703-00046111 a lot you can run it qseDYwYABVQ-00085-00046112-00047702 hey he's right here on the ground qseDYwYABVQ-00086-00047703-00047900 from get our loadout out of white qseDYwYABVQ-00087-00047901-00048039 [Music] qseDYwYABVQ-00088-00048040-00048390 i've got 10. could be some serious help qseDYwYABVQ-00089-00048391-00048479 here boys qseDYwYABVQ-00090-00048480-00048871 yeah hey all right qseDYwYABVQ-00091-00048872-00049895 all right oh they just went back there qseDYwYABVQ-00092-00049896-00049999 i think he's in the back of the white qseDYwYABVQ-00093-00050000-00050390 truck qseDYwYABVQ-00094-00050391-00050911 yeah 100 no qseDYwYABVQ-00095-00050912-00051143 he's uh by this house marking target qseDYwYABVQ-00096-00051144-00051263 location he just went in qseDYwYABVQ-00097-00051264-00051639 enemy soldier ain't coming qseDYwYABVQ-00098-00051640-00051807 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00099-00051808-00052686 someone's playing again qseDYwYABVQ-00100-00052687-00053271 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00101-00053272-00054111 across qseDYwYABVQ-00102-00054112-00054415 and then we should push this clown qseDYwYABVQ-00103-00054416-00054787 i'm already on it qseDYwYABVQ-00104-00054788-00055370 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00105-00055371-00056082 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00106-00056083-00057599 oh on the rock on the rock right here qseDYwYABVQ-00107-00057600-00057847 shitty [__] ass clown get the [__] qseDYwYABVQ-00108-00057848-00058145 out qseDYwYABVQ-00109-00058146-00058511 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00110-00058512-00058887 this game's crazy yeah you're putting up qseDYwYABVQ-00111-00058888-00058999 we gotta like support qseDYwYABVQ-00112-00059000-00059359 his [__] [__] head uh when the qseDYwYABVQ-00113-00059360-00059423 squad qseDYwYABVQ-00114-00059424-00059854 the squad's doing it together we can go qseDYwYABVQ-00115-00059855-00060071 um all selfs and then probably have qseDYwYABVQ-00116-00060072-00060904 enough for uh qseDYwYABVQ-00117-00060904-00061238 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00118-00061239-00061406 i think i've said some pretty vulgar qseDYwYABVQ-00119-00061407-00061606 things might not be qseDYwYABVQ-00120-00061607-00062423 might not be a good one for the tube qseDYwYABVQ-00121-00062424-00062735 i'll drive qseDYwYABVQ-00122-00062736-00063812 take it away qseDYwYABVQ-00123-00063813-00064342 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00124-00064344-00064694 uh he's got a trophy qseDYwYABVQ-00125-00064695-00065038 i'll take the wheel we could just go get qseDYwYABVQ-00126-00065039-00065882 this qseDYwYABVQ-00127-00065883-00066863 dude qseDYwYABVQ-00128-00066864-00067111 oh threat level three on me oh they're qseDYwYABVQ-00129-00067112-00068635 right here qseDYwYABVQ-00130-00068636-00069759 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00131-00069760-00070310 [Music] qseDYwYABVQ-00132-00070311-00070419 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00133-00070420-00071159 [Music] qseDYwYABVQ-00134-00071160-00072894 uh can you come up here qseDYwYABVQ-00135-00072895-00073615 my truck's freaking too hell qseDYwYABVQ-00136-00073616-00074606 wow these guys qseDYwYABVQ-00137-00074607-00074926 recon overflight inband uav engine the qseDYwYABVQ-00138-00074927-00074972 ao qseDYwYABVQ-00139-00074973-00075238 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00140-00075239-00076318 [__] i'm in their sights qseDYwYABVQ-00141-00076319-00077698 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00142-00077699-00079319 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00143-00079320-00080175 finish the mission qseDYwYABVQ-00144-00080176-00080319 [__] i literally had the wrong gun out qseDYwYABVQ-00145-00080320-00080759 when they came down the stairs qseDYwYABVQ-00146-00080760-00083084 um supply wrong contract here qseDYwYABVQ-00147-00083085-00084082 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00148-00084083-00084301 no qseDYwYABVQ-00149-00084302-00084787 [Applause] qseDYwYABVQ-00150-00084788-00085088 no qtLihh378ng-00000-00000105-00001119 [Music] qtLihh378ng-00001-00001120-00001287 hello and welcome to design education qtLihh378ng-00002-00001288-00001335 talks qtLihh378ng-00003-00001336-00001462 the collaboration with the new art qtLihh378ng-00004-00001463-00001734 school and zandidak's podcast qtLihh378ng-00005-00001735-00002134 our guest today is tash wilcox qtLihh378ng-00006-00002135-00002463 welcome tash hello qtLihh378ng-00007-00002464-00002687 it's fantastic to have you here thank qtLihh378ng-00008-00002688-00002887 you it's lovely to be here qtLihh378ng-00009-00002888-00003263 so tell us about you and your work um qtLihh378ng-00010-00003264-00003519 so my my work sort of chops into quite a qtLihh378ng-00011-00003520-00003606 few sections qtLihh378ng-00012-00003607-00003943 and i think i'm one of those people that qtLihh378ng-00013-00003944-00004151 is i think there's a phrase called jack qtLihh378ng-00014-00004152-00004367 of all credits qtLihh378ng-00015-00004368-00004679 master of none um however qtLihh378ng-00016-00004680-00004983 uh the four sort of main spaces qtLihh378ng-00017-00004984-00005327 are i work with snook qtLihh378ng-00018-00005328-00005583 which is multidisciplinary studio and qtLihh378ng-00019-00005584-00005767 i'm the head of learning design there qtLihh378ng-00020-00005768-00005822 and qtLihh378ng-00021-00005823-00006079 we work in mainly service design but we qtLihh378ng-00022-00006080-00006134 go from qtLihh378ng-00023-00006135-00006439 n10 so we do full stack design and qtLihh378ng-00024-00006440-00006655 we work a lot in government and the qtLihh378ng-00025-00006656-00006839 public sector so that qtLihh378ng-00026-00006840-00007167 we're known for that in the uk and qtLihh378ng-00027-00007168-00007487 beyond i really like the fact that hyper qtLihh378ng-00028-00007488-00007670 island which is another company that i qtLihh378ng-00029-00007672-00007774 work with qtLihh378ng-00030-00007775-00007934 which is a creative business school the qtLihh378ng-00031-00007936-00008119 students used to say qtLihh378ng-00032-00008120-00008367 snook was the og of the service design qtLihh378ng-00033-00008368-00008478 world qtLihh378ng-00034-00008479-00008814 which used to make me happy um so i used qtLihh378ng-00035-00008815-00008991 to be the director of masters qtLihh378ng-00036-00008992-00009167 at hyper island i oversaw all of the qtLihh378ng-00037-00009168-00009295 masters except for the ones in the qtLihh378ng-00038-00009296-00009374 singapore qtLihh378ng-00039-00009375-00009671 and like i said it's a creative business qtLihh378ng-00040-00009672-00009831 school that's international qtLihh378ng-00041-00009832-00010103 and i left there i think about six qtLihh378ng-00042-00010104-00010255 months ago now qtLihh378ng-00043-00010256-00010446 really loved working there but a new qtLihh378ng-00044-00010447-00010606 challenge came up so i thought i'd qtLihh378ng-00045-00010607-00010942 hop away but there's saying that you qtLihh378ng-00046-00010943-00011142 can't leave hyper island and they've qtLihh378ng-00047-00011143-00011246 made that a fact qtLihh378ng-00048-00011247-00011487 so i actually as much as i've left hyper qtLihh378ng-00049-00011488-00011638 island i'm still part of it and they qtLihh378ng-00050-00011639-00011735 made me an qtLihh378ng-00051-00011736-00011991 honorary fellow and what that includes qtLihh378ng-00052-00011992-00012174 is i'm on the academic board and i'm qtLihh378ng-00053-00012175-00012335 still in contact with a lot of the qtLihh378ng-00054-00012336-00012599 alumni as well which is a pleasure two qtLihh378ng-00055-00012600-00012838 more sections coming so qtLihh378ng-00056-00012839-00012999 those those are my sort of like more qtLihh378ng-00057-00013000-00013230 professional personally i work with qtLihh378ng-00058-00013231-00013343 somebody called jenny qtLihh378ng-00059-00013344-00013686 theolon and we actually met through a qtLihh378ng-00060-00013687-00013951 talk that she did i think about qtLihh378ng-00061-00013952-00014175 maybe six seven years ago which i'd qtLihh378ng-00062-00014176-00014327 drawn the poster for qtLihh378ng-00063-00014328-00014566 and she came to social like the poster qtLihh378ng-00064-00014568-00014694 we did a few little things together qtLihh378ng-00065-00014695-00014758 ending up qtLihh378ng-00066-00014759-00014958 working at hyper island together but qtLihh378ng-00067-00014959-00015143 we've actually started something called qtLihh378ng-00068-00015144-00015391 design education it's not this it's a qtLihh378ng-00069-00015391-00015655 separate design education um qtLihh378ng-00070-00015656-00015975 which is a platform where qtLihh378ng-00071-00015976-00016199 educators and industry can come together qtLihh378ng-00072-00016200-00016383 and have a really nice freeform dialogue qtLihh378ng-00073-00016384-00016494 and help each other qtLihh378ng-00074-00016495-00016839 and push what the design education qtLihh378ng-00075-00016840-00017071 looks like really so it's nice at the qtLihh378ng-00076-00017072-00017239 minute it's in a growth stage qtLihh378ng-00077-00017240-00017494 uh it's mainly a slack with some forums qtLihh378ng-00078-00017495-00017599 and workshops qtLihh378ng-00079-00017600-00017919 but we've got 500 500 plus qtLihh378ng-00080-00017920-00018094 people on there and it's quite nice it's qtLihh378ng-00081-00018095-00018271 interactive i really love the fact that qtLihh378ng-00082-00018272-00018343 people shout qtLihh378ng-00083-00018344-00018519 for help and go have you tried this qtLihh378ng-00084-00018520-00018719 workshop people actually answer so it's qtLihh378ng-00085-00018720-00018975 not one of those slack spheres where qtLihh378ng-00086-00018976-00019183 people sort of join and then nobody qtLihh378ng-00087-00019184-00019414 answers anything for five months qtLihh378ng-00088-00019415-00019719 and my final space is something called qtLihh378ng-00089-00019720-00019871 mundane a day but it's actually sort of qtLihh378ng-00090-00019872-00019999 changed since then qtLihh378ng-00091-00020000-00020303 which was uh eight years ago qtLihh378ng-00092-00020304-00020558 i was working with final year graphic qtLihh378ng-00093-00020559-00020678 design students qtLihh378ng-00094-00020679-00020975 and they got to that point and people qtLihh378ng-00095-00020976-00021086 listening might know it qtLihh378ng-00096-00021087-00021278 that they're on their final major qtLihh378ng-00097-00021279-00021422 project and qtLihh378ng-00098-00021423-00021567 week for week you're like so what have qtLihh378ng-00099-00021568-00021775 you done i'm really excited to see it qtLihh378ng-00100-00021776-00021919 show me your research and they're like qtLihh378ng-00101-00021920-00022127 so i've been thinking qtLihh378ng-00102-00022128-00022343 and you're like come on and now this qtLihh378ng-00103-00022344-00022455 sounds awful to say qtLihh378ng-00104-00022456-00022655 on an education thing stop thinking and qtLihh378ng-00105-00022656-00022767 start doing qtLihh378ng-00106-00022768-00023103 exactly and we we had a chat and i went qtLihh378ng-00107-00023104-00023263 right i've always wanted to do hand qtLihh378ng-00108-00023264-00023455 lettering i hadn't done it i've always qtLihh378ng-00109-00023456-00023607 really loved hand lettering qtLihh378ng-00110-00023608-00023791 and i went i'm going to do one piece of qtLihh378ng-00111-00023792-00024014 hand lengthering a day and qtLihh378ng-00112-00024015-00024271 we'll i'll do it in sort of union with qtLihh378ng-00113-00024272-00024358 with all of you qtLihh378ng-00114-00024359-00024542 i'll do it as my final major project if qtLihh378ng-00115-00024543-00024719 i can do this on top of my job you can qtLihh378ng-00116-00024720-00024814 do it qtLihh378ng-00117-00024815-00025078 and that's exactly what i did and eight qtLihh378ng-00118-00025079-00025222 years later i qtLihh378ng-00119-00025223-00025550 am still doing one drawing a day and qtLihh378ng-00120-00025551-00025702 it's kind of developed into its own qtLihh378ng-00121-00025704-00025831 thing so at the minute i'm running qtLihh378ng-00122-00025832-00025950 something called asa qtLihh378ng-00123-00025951-00026302 any age which is highlighting ageism qtLihh378ng-00124-00026304-00026479 it's slightly in the design industry but qtLihh378ng-00125-00026480-00026687 it goes wider which qtLihh378ng-00126-00026688-00027014 really highlights um mary wilson's qtLihh378ng-00127-00027016-00027231 you can't be what you can't see so it's qtLihh378ng-00128-00027232-00027462 about you know qtLihh378ng-00129-00027463-00027670 evidencing there's some incredible qtLihh378ng-00130-00027672-00027879 humans out there who are over the age of qtLihh378ng-00131-00027880-00027983 50 doing qtLihh378ng-00132-00027983-00028151 fantastic things they might even be on qtLihh378ng-00133-00028152-00028399 their third career you don't have to qtLihh378ng-00134-00028400-00028583 go and sleep in a shoebox as soon as you qtLihh378ng-00135-00028583-00028743 hit 50. so qtLihh378ng-00136-00028744-00029095 um yep i'm running that as part of it qtLihh378ng-00137-00029095-00029543 i've done things like tedx talks i've qtLihh378ng-00138-00029544-00029814 sung live at one talk in front of 200 qtLihh378ng-00139-00029816-00030039 people which was a bit of a stretch zone qtLihh378ng-00140-00030039-00030390 that was a cappella i have i've got a qtLihh378ng-00141-00030391-00030455 branded qtLihh378ng-00142-00030456-00030718 phone in china uh yeah it's it's qtLihh378ng-00143-00030719-00030887 basically sort of developed into a lot qtLihh378ng-00144-00030888-00031039 of different threads so that's that's qtLihh378ng-00145-00031039-00031095 kind of qtLihh378ng-00146-00031095-00031295 i hate the word side hustle but that's qtLihh378ng-00147-00031295-00031470 the only word that's coming into my head qtLihh378ng-00148-00031472-00031543 but that's qtLihh378ng-00149-00031544-00031783 that's my sort of side thing so these qtLihh378ng-00150-00031783-00031879 are the products you're currently qtLihh378ng-00151-00031880-00032199 working on any any anything else that qtLihh378ng-00152-00032200-00032511 within those those areas qtLihh378ng-00153-00032512-00032783 i don't think so okay so at the minute qtLihh378ng-00154-00032784-00032823 with qtLihh378ng-00155-00032824-00033111 snook so being new to snook it's like my qtLihh378ng-00156-00033112-00033190 main qtLihh378ng-00157-00033191-00033495 focus is designing and qtLihh378ng-00158-00033496-00033743 so if designing and developing their qtLihh378ng-00159-00033744-00033943 training and learning area qtLihh378ng-00160-00033944-00034199 uh so yeah that that's a huge focus of qtLihh378ng-00161-00034200-00034343 the moments of qtLihh378ng-00162-00034344-00034590 and it's it's called with snook so it'd qtLihh378ng-00163-00034591-00034718 be workshop with snook qtLihh378ng-00164-00034719-00034983 learn with snook prototype with snook qtLihh378ng-00165-00034984-00035102 yeah absolutely qtLihh378ng-00166-00035103-00035471 so how did you get into teaching qtLihh378ng-00167-00035472-00035646 i am one of those people that never qtLihh378ng-00168-00035647-00035783 wanted to be a teacher qtLihh378ng-00169-00035784-00036102 and fell into teaching uh it felt like i qtLihh378ng-00170-00036103-00036262 sort of fell from this guy qtLihh378ng-00171-00036263-00036607 i so s i finished my qtLihh378ng-00172-00036608-00036846 masters in manchester and i think at qtLihh378ng-00173-00036847-00036999 that point qtLihh378ng-00174-00037000-00037367 my aim was was actually no i finished my qtLihh378ng-00175-00037368-00037430 degree qtLihh378ng-00176-00037431-00037711 moved to manchester and i think my aim qtLihh378ng-00177-00037712-00037855 was to move to london qtLihh378ng-00178-00037856-00038143 because it's paved with gold and qtLihh378ng-00179-00038144-00038311 everything was going to be magic qtLihh378ng-00180-00038312-00038639 and then i ended up in manchester qtLihh378ng-00181-00038640-00038823 after studying in liverpool did a qtLihh378ng-00182-00038824-00038974 masters there qtLihh378ng-00183-00038975-00039343 loved the city fell in love with it and qtLihh378ng-00184-00039344-00039607 was like okay what do i want to do so qtLihh378ng-00185-00039608-00039759 when i finished my masters qtLihh378ng-00186-00039760-00039990 i actually started working in a venue qtLihh378ng-00187-00039991-00040079 and qtLihh378ng-00188-00040080-00040255 ended up running the venue called night qtLihh378ng-00189-00040256-00040423 and day which was amazing qtLihh378ng-00190-00040424-00040671 and i actually bizarrely got a lot of qtLihh378ng-00191-00040672-00040759 graphic design qtLihh378ng-00192-00040760-00041030 music industry work from working there qtLihh378ng-00193-00041031-00041062 and qtLihh378ng-00194-00041063-00041399 meeting people and the qtLihh378ng-00195-00041400-00041639 university came and said would you mind qtLihh378ng-00196-00041640-00041830 salford university came to me and qtLihh378ng-00197-00041831-00042046 said can you do a little bit of qtLihh378ng-00198-00042047-00042246 technical teaching so basically qtLihh378ng-00199-00042247-00042718 illustrator photoshop etc etc and qtLihh378ng-00200-00042719-00042895 this sounds quite cutthroat i needed the qtLihh378ng-00201-00042896-00043030 money and to qtLihh378ng-00202-00043031-00043215 pay off my student debt so i was like qtLihh378ng-00203-00043216-00043390 yep that sounds great qtLihh378ng-00204-00043391-00043751 um i was people don't believe this qtLihh378ng-00205-00043752-00043951 i was quite shy at the time so it was qtLihh378ng-00206-00043952-00044062 actually a massive qtLihh378ng-00207-00044063-00044255 stretch then i'd been pre quite a qtLihh378ng-00208-00044256-00044430 precocious kid done a lot of qtLihh378ng-00209-00044431-00044695 drama stuff but i'd had it beaten out qtLihh378ng-00210-00044696-00044790 for me a little bit qtLihh378ng-00211-00044791-00045095 so this for me was a huge step qtLihh378ng-00212-00045096-00045462 and also going into a classroom where qtLihh378ng-00213-00045463-00045743 students are not far off your age like a qtLihh378ng-00214-00045744-00045855 lot of the students qtLihh378ng-00215-00045856-00046199 were 19 20s and i was 20 qtLihh378ng-00216-00046200-00046551 20. i think i was 22 at the time and qtLihh378ng-00217-00046552-00046774 i'm quite small i'm like five foot i qtLihh378ng-00218-00046775-00046911 looked about 12 qtLihh378ng-00219-00046912-00047095 most of them just thought i was joking qtLihh378ng-00220-00047096-00047351 so trying to go no i am your tutor this qtLihh378ng-00221-00047352-00047439 is happening qtLihh378ng-00222-00047440-00047623 but i've got to say it's one of the best qtLihh378ng-00223-00047624-00047855 choices i ever made qtLihh378ng-00224-00047856-00048190 i really found a passion in it i buzzed qtLihh378ng-00225-00048191-00048230 off qtLihh378ng-00226-00048231-00048399 talking to people i buzzed off the qtLihh378ng-00227-00048400-00048551 interactions qtLihh378ng-00228-00048552-00048902 i within i think within a month qtLihh378ng-00229-00048903-00049095 i'd managed to get one of the bands that qtLihh378ng-00230-00049096-00049295 i knew from the venue qtLihh378ng-00231-00049296-00049502 to give a live brief so we could qtLihh378ng-00232-00049503-00049623 actually work qtLihh378ng-00233-00049624-00049895 on the brief on the text tech stuff so qtLihh378ng-00234-00049896-00050062 that they weren't just doing qtLihh378ng-00235-00050063-00050351 perfect circle into this so it's a bit qtLihh378ng-00236-00050352-00050558 more exciting and qtLihh378ng-00237-00050559-00050886 um yeah it was the students responded qtLihh378ng-00238-00050887-00050951 really well qtLihh378ng-00239-00050952-00051151 i got them all free into a venue one qtLihh378ng-00240-00051152-00051263 night and said you know qtLihh378ng-00241-00051264-00051502 just this is going back about 20 years qtLihh378ng-00242-00051503-00051575 so qtLihh378ng-00243-00051576-00051879 like just i am not responsible for you qtLihh378ng-00244-00051879-00052070 sort of like you're old enough to look qtLihh378ng-00245-00052071-00052207 after yourselves but they met the band qtLihh378ng-00246-00052208-00052382 they got to take photos qtLihh378ng-00247-00052383-00052742 they got to do interviews and i think qtLihh378ng-00248-00052744-00053023 that sparked some magic in me where i qtLihh378ng-00249-00053024-00053159 was like qtLihh378ng-00250-00053160-00053542 live briefs learn by doing sort of get qtLihh378ng-00251-00053544-00053775 live feedback off the customers rather qtLihh378ng-00252-00053776-00053935 than having a qtLihh378ng-00253-00053936-00054271 academic sort of brief so that that yeah qtLihh378ng-00254-00054272-00054630 22 landed into it and then qtLihh378ng-00255-00054632-00054911 kind of did more and more and more until qtLihh378ng-00256-00054912-00054959 i was qtLihh378ng-00257-00054960-00055287 permanent by the age of 30. this is qtLihh378ng-00258-00055288-00055503 fantastic it's fantastic it's a pretty qtLihh378ng-00259-00055504-00055599 challenging time qtLihh378ng-00260-00055600-00055830 for uh students and teachers right now qtLihh378ng-00261-00055832-00056015 lecturers qtLihh378ng-00262-00056016-00056247 how do you see uh what were your advice qtLihh378ng-00263-00056248-00056391 to to the students qtLihh378ng-00264-00056391-00056623 that right now say okay you know i am qtLihh378ng-00265-00056624-00056871 about to graduate or i'm in education qtLihh378ng-00266-00056872-00057230 i don't have the possibility of easily qtLihh378ng-00267-00057232-00057511 uh getting some experience like in a qtLihh378ng-00268-00057512-00057599 physical in a physical qtLihh378ng-00269-00057600-00057903 environment i have to go straight into qtLihh378ng-00270-00057904-00058159 uh freelancing i mean or at least qtLihh378ng-00271-00058160-00058319 working from qtLihh378ng-00272-00058320-00058687 online yep so what would be your advice qtLihh378ng-00273-00058688-00059015 for current students and graduates uh qtLihh378ng-00274-00059016-00059271 for for uh for employability employment qtLihh378ng-00275-00059272-00059519 skills and and their path to employment qtLihh378ng-00276-00059520-00059887 yeah i think so if they get i'll qtLihh378ng-00277-00059888-00060103 i'm going into directions with this so qtLihh378ng-00278-00060104-00060215 number one qtLihh378ng-00279-00060216-00060423 if you're in a company and you're qtLihh378ng-00280-00060424-00060542 joining remotely qtLihh378ng-00281-00060544-00060823 and you're a junior don't be afraid to qtLihh378ng-00282-00060824-00060935 have a bit of a voice qtLihh378ng-00283-00060936-00061199 so on slack don't be afraid to qtLihh378ng-00284-00061200-00061279 communicate qtLihh378ng-00285-00061279-00061623 online it is super easy to disappear qtLihh378ng-00286-00061624-00061838 it's super easy to not be seen in a qtLihh378ng-00287-00061839-00062015 company and i think qtLihh378ng-00288-00062016-00062366 juniors sometimes feel like oh like i qtLihh378ng-00289-00062367-00062535 shouldn't talk too much qtLihh378ng-00290-00062536-00062791 um if you can and if the company's got qtLihh378ng-00291-00062791-00062982 it have like a check-in channel qtLihh378ng-00292-00062983-00063206 don't be afraid sort of like put up this qtLihh378ng-00293-00063207-00063350 is what i learned today qtLihh378ng-00294-00063351-00063566 have a work in progress channel and sort qtLihh378ng-00295-00063567-00063711 of help people qtLihh378ng-00296-00063712-00063854 go you know i'd really love to see what qtLihh378ng-00297-00063855-00064079 you're doing pairing qtLihh378ng-00298-00064079-00064423 as well we do um we do and are doing qtLihh378ng-00299-00064424-00064671 more of we do pairing at snook and i qtLihh378ng-00300-00064672-00064766 think qtLihh378ng-00301-00064767-00064911 if they're not doing that at your qtLihh378ng-00302-00064912-00065223 company just ask if you don't ask qtLihh378ng-00303-00065224-00065526 you do not get and i think sometimes qtLihh378ng-00304-00065527-00065782 it's like oh well i can't ask that as qtLihh378ng-00305-00065783-00066047 long as you ask in a really polite clear qtLihh378ng-00306-00066048-00066215 this is what i would like to do because qtLihh378ng-00307-00066216-00066382 xyz qtLihh378ng-00308-00066383-00066543 they're probably not going to say no qtLihh378ng-00309-00066544-00066775 because you know that will upskill you qtLihh378ng-00310-00066776-00066863 that will train you qtLihh378ng-00311-00066864-00067079 it's great for you it's great for them qtLihh378ng-00312-00067080-00067263 if they say no qtLihh378ng-00313-00067264-00067503 it's fine grow thick skin that's one qtLihh378ng-00314-00067504-00067567 thing i learned qtLihh378ng-00315-00067568-00067894 very fast grow qtLihh378ng-00316-00067895-00068175 it is impossible to insult me like it's qtLihh378ng-00317-00068176-00068375 almost a joke with my friends qtLihh378ng-00318-00068376-00068599 like i take i will take insults as qtLihh378ng-00319-00068600-00068711 compliments qtLihh378ng-00320-00068712-00069094 um and feedback sort of qtLihh378ng-00321-00069095-00069335 hunt feedback don't wait for people to qtLihh378ng-00322-00069336-00069550 feed back to you qtLihh378ng-00323-00069551-00069894 ask i always say broadly as in from qtLihh378ng-00324-00069895-00070126 you know as high up as you can to qtLihh378ng-00325-00070127-00070215 different people qtLihh378ng-00326-00070216-00070455 hunt down feedback and ask for it don't qtLihh378ng-00327-00070456-00070535 wait for it qtLihh378ng-00328-00070536-00070887 and again people people will sort of qtLihh378ng-00329-00070888-00071159 embrace that hopefully and they'll see qtLihh378ng-00330-00071160-00071303 that you're trying to learn qtLihh378ng-00331-00071304-00071550 and ask for specific feedback don't just qtLihh378ng-00332-00071551-00071719 go can you give me some feedback on qtLihh378ng-00333-00071720-00071950 how i am it's a bit too baggy but if you qtLihh378ng-00334-00071951-00072023 go qtLihh378ng-00335-00072024-00072247 today we work together online on the qtLihh378ng-00336-00072248-00072343 mirror board qtLihh378ng-00337-00072344-00072638 and i did xyz could i get some feedback qtLihh378ng-00338-00072639-00072671 on qtLihh378ng-00339-00072672-00072959 that you know most people can think of qtLihh378ng-00340-00072960-00072999 something qtLihh378ng-00341-00073000-00073191 so they could you know again it's giving qtLihh378ng-00342-00073192-00073335 you that qtLihh378ng-00343-00073336-00073623 visibility so be visible don't be qtLihh378ng-00344-00073624-00073703 annoying qtLihh378ng-00345-00073704-00074071 i'm annoying but be visible qtLihh378ng-00346-00074072-00074391 um i've been around for a long time i'm qtLihh378ng-00347-00074392-00074494 allowed to be annoying qtLihh378ng-00348-00074495-00074903 um but the other side i think again qtLihh378ng-00349-00074904-00075223 it's about over communication and qtLihh378ng-00350-00075224-00075559 visibility laila van obelsten uh is an qtLihh378ng-00351-00075560-00075806 alumni from hyper island on the masters qtLihh378ng-00352-00075807-00076062 and she works she's the head of culture qtLihh378ng-00353-00076063-00076255 at mural now and it always it qtLihh378ng-00354-00076256-00076462 embedded in my head she was she's always qtLihh378ng-00355-00076463-00076591 been working in remote she did her qtLihh378ng-00356-00076592-00076719 masters on it qtLihh378ng-00357-00076720-00076982 and uh she always says one of the key qtLihh378ng-00358-00076983-00077111 things to being remote qtLihh378ng-00359-00077112-00077375 is over communicating because so much is qtLihh378ng-00360-00077376-00077559 lost in not being in the room qtLihh378ng-00361-00077560-00077703 but what about the stage where before qtLihh378ng-00362-00077704-00077871 they reach the company stage that's qtLihh378ng-00363-00077872-00078199 where i i was get i was getting there so qtLihh378ng-00364-00078200-00078487 i just just you're like stick on the qtLihh378ng-00365-00078488-00078550 point qtLihh378ng-00366-00078551-00078823 so i think it's over communication again qtLihh378ng-00367-00078824-00078959 don't be afraid to put your work out qtLihh378ng-00368-00078960-00079087 there so qtLihh378ng-00369-00079088-00079238 earlier i was talking about monday and a qtLihh378ng-00370-00079239-00079503 day i do one instagram post today qtLihh378ng-00371-00079504-00079823 and see how big that's grown and it's qtLihh378ng-00372-00079824-00079887 about qtLihh378ng-00373-00079888-00080223 being constant so put something out qtLihh378ng-00374-00080224-00080447 find a time get it out there don't be qtLihh378ng-00375-00080448-00080631 afraid to ask a few people qtLihh378ng-00376-00080632-00080959 so on twitter like watch conversations qtLihh378ng-00377-00080960-00080999 fight qtLihh378ng-00378-00081000-00081294 go on linkedin and find the job that you qtLihh378ng-00379-00081295-00081479 would love to do qtLihh378ng-00380-00081480-00081662 and then track back how did they get qtLihh378ng-00381-00081663-00081879 there then find the people qtLihh378ng-00382-00081880-00082126 sort of on that run don't you know don't qtLihh378ng-00383-00082127-00082238 stop there start on qtLihh378ng-00384-00082239-00082559 that run find them on twitter qtLihh378ng-00385-00082560-00082815 watch the conversations get a good feel qtLihh378ng-00386-00082816-00082911 for it and then qtLihh378ng-00387-00082912-00083215 join that conversation i don't qtLihh378ng-00388-00083216-00083367 particularly like it when somebody just qtLihh378ng-00389-00083368-00083582 comes and asks me for something if they qtLihh378ng-00390-00083583-00083775 come with a bit of a present qtLihh378ng-00391-00083776-00084062 which is i read this article on learning qtLihh378ng-00392-00084063-00084118 design qtLihh378ng-00393-00084119-00084335 it's super cool would you like to read qtLihh378ng-00394-00084336-00084487 it i'm like oh yeah you've got my qtLihh378ng-00395-00084488-00084606 attention qtLihh378ng-00396-00084607-00084838 and then go by the way i'm looking for qtLihh378ng-00397-00084839-00084918 xyz qtLihh378ng-00398-00084919-00085071 and i know it feels a bit sneaky but qtLihh378ng-00399-00085072-00085231 it's not it's just qtLihh378ng-00400-00085232-00085526 be like be interested yeah in the qtLihh378ng-00401-00085527-00085631 subject and qtLihh378ng-00402-00085632-00085887 show how passionate and how interested qtLihh378ng-00403-00085888-00086062 you it's also it's also online social qtLihh378ng-00404-00086063-00086215 skills it's just like offline social qtLihh378ng-00405-00086216-00086543 skills it's not much different qtLihh378ng-00406-00086544-00086855 exactly but i think it's it sounds so qtLihh378ng-00407-00086856-00087038 obvious but people don't do it qtLihh378ng-00408-00087039-00087455 yeah yeah yeah fantastic plastic qtLihh378ng-00409-00087456-00087647 if you had the magic wand and there was qtLihh378ng-00410-00087648-00087799 no limitation qtLihh378ng-00411-00087800-00088015 uh would you do it what would you do qtLihh378ng-00412-00088016-00088206 different in design education qtLihh378ng-00413-00088207-00088359 what would you change or what would you qtLihh378ng-00414-00088360-00088599 keep the same qtLihh378ng-00415-00088600-00088918 uh okay nothing's perfect and qtLihh378ng-00416-00088919-00089223 everything can be improved so it's quite qtLihh378ng-00417-00089224-00089415 a lot of change qtLihh378ng-00418-00089416-00089743 i think i'm a qtLihh378ng-00419-00089744-00090047 big ken robinson fan um i think most qtLihh378ng-00420-00090048-00090175 people in education are qtLihh378ng-00421-00090176-00090518 so i think i would break the silos qtLihh378ng-00422-00090519-00090743 um and i'm going like that's back into qtLihh378ng-00423-00090744-00090950 primary and secondary school qtLihh378ng-00424-00090951-00091223 and there's a thing called the 11 plus qtLihh378ng-00425-00091224-00091335 in the uk qtLihh378ng-00426-00091336-00091518 yes i wouldn't have that i'd get rid of qtLihh378ng-00427-00091519-00091638 that um qtLihh378ng-00428-00091639-00091767 there's going to be a lot of complaints qtLihh378ng-00429-00091768-00092047 about that but i think qtLihh378ng-00430-00092048-00092375 judging 11 year olds so severely uh qtLihh378ng-00431-00092376-00092831 who of course you know the kids qtLihh378ng-00432-00092832-00093135 higher education i think break the silos qtLihh378ng-00433-00093136-00093238 again qtLihh378ng-00434-00093239-00093567 so we have universities and masters qtLihh378ng-00435-00093568-00093894 and i think it doesn't promote lifelong qtLihh378ng-00436-00093895-00093967 learning qtLihh378ng-00437-00093968-00094287 i feel that and this is not all qtLihh378ng-00438-00094288-00094455 don't get me wrong there's loads and qtLihh378ng-00439-00094456-00094623 loads of good examples out there qtLihh378ng-00440-00094624-00094935 i feel there's a little bit of a okay qtLihh378ng-00441-00094936-00095199 i'm 18 i need to go to university and qtLihh378ng-00442-00095200-00095374 it's really pushed at that age group as qtLihh378ng-00443-00095375-00095406 well qtLihh378ng-00444-00095407-00095591 the advertising the sort of like where qtLihh378ng-00445-00095592-00095726 it's pushed out qtLihh378ng-00446-00095727-00096079 i'm 18 i must go to university qtLihh378ng-00447-00096080-00096238 must you could you just get a bit of qtLihh378ng-00448-00096239-00096455 life experience first qtLihh378ng-00449-00096456-00096711 and or just save up to go to university qtLihh378ng-00450-00096712-00096967 so if like have a bit of light in fact qtLihh378ng-00451-00096968-00097271 go and do a really awful qtLihh378ng-00452-00097272-00097574 job that makes you go okay i don't want qtLihh378ng-00453-00097575-00097647 to do that for qtLihh378ng-00454-00097648-00097967 the rest of my life um qtLihh378ng-00455-00097968-00098318 and yeah makes you appreciate what you qtLihh378ng-00456-00098319-00098567 you can achieve if you put yourself qtLihh378ng-00457-00098568-00098718 through education so when you qtLihh378ng-00458-00098719-00099023 get there you grab it and you get the qtLihh378ng-00459-00099024-00099223 most out of it and again i am not saying qtLihh378ng-00460-00099224-00099406 that 18 year olds don't do that qtLihh378ng-00461-00099407-00099679 but i do feel like sometimes they slide qtLihh378ng-00462-00099680-00099711 in qtLihh378ng-00463-00099712-00099943 at 18 because that's the expectation of qtLihh378ng-00464-00099944-00100103 the parents that's what you do you qtLihh378ng-00465-00100104-00100255 finish school it's the next step and i qtLihh378ng-00466-00100256-00100374 don't think qtLihh378ng-00467-00100375-00100718 i think society sets it up that way qtLihh378ng-00468-00100719-00100959 um and then you kind of finish your qtLihh378ng-00469-00100960-00101055 learning block qtLihh378ng-00470-00101056-00101294 you might do a masters but then you qtLihh378ng-00471-00101295-00101374 finish qtLihh378ng-00472-00101375-00101559 and then it's like finished never need qtLihh378ng-00473-00101560-00101759 to do education again because i did my qtLihh378ng-00474-00101760-00101894 block of education qtLihh378ng-00475-00101895-00102159 and it is ridiculous that means and the qtLihh378ng-00476-00102160-00102439 next 60 years i won't do any education qtLihh378ng-00477-00102440-00102766 so i think yeah just qtLihh378ng-00478-00102767-00103063 really really encourage lifelong qtLihh378ng-00479-00103064-00103230 learning qtLihh378ng-00480-00103231-00103478 break that silo of learning have loads qtLihh378ng-00481-00103479-00103551 and loads of qtLihh378ng-00482-00103552-00103734 diverse age groups and sort of like qtLihh378ng-00483-00103735-00103886 people in there qtLihh378ng-00484-00103888-00104342 um make it more qtLihh378ng-00485-00104343-00104606 accessible for different people i think qtLihh378ng-00486-00104607-00104782 again it's becoming more and more qtLihh378ng-00487-00104783-00104927 expensive and it's qtLihh378ng-00488-00104928-00105223 cutting so many people out uh you're qtLihh378ng-00489-00105224-00105351 probably wanting more qtLihh378ng-00490-00105352-00105727 and right so i'll get into it i think qtLihh378ng-00491-00105728-00105983 more learn by doing less didactic i qtLihh378ng-00492-00105983-00106223 think there's a space for didactic qtLihh378ng-00493-00106224-00106654 um i think qtLihh378ng-00494-00106655-00107023 oh i had something in my head uh qtLihh378ng-00495-00107024-00107351 just mixing cohorts as well qtLihh378ng-00496-00107352-00107766 i think i i this might be happening now qtLihh378ng-00497-00107767-00107807 but qtLihh378ng-00498-00107808-00108086 when i was at the universities there was qtLihh378ng-00499-00108088-00108263 quite a few times where i reached out to qtLihh378ng-00500-00108264-00108407 different departments so i went to the qtLihh378ng-00501-00108408-00108551 nursing department qtLihh378ng-00502-00108552-00108710 and we did a brief with them that we qtLihh378ng-00503-00108711-00108934 didn't do a brief with the students qtLihh378ng-00504-00108935-00109158 and i was like come on imagine if the qtLihh378ng-00505-00109159-00109358 design students and the nursing and the qtLihh378ng-00506-00109359-00109654 maternities uh the midway three students qtLihh378ng-00507-00109655-00109799 got together absolutely so qtLihh378ng-00508-00109800-00110039 more more of that i do see little spots qtLihh378ng-00509-00110040-00110278 of it opening up yeah so basically qtLihh378ng-00510-00110279-00110583 any walls that exist break them down and qtLihh378ng-00511-00110583-00110671 let people mix qtLihh378ng-00512-00110672-00110871 in different ways and different learning qtLihh378ng-00513-00110872-00110999 ways brilliant qtLihh378ng-00514-00111000-00111199 brilliant how can our viewers and qtLihh378ng-00515-00111200-00111478 listeners find you qtLihh378ng-00516-00111479-00111919 um so i basically you can go qtLihh378ng-00517-00111920-00112419 tash wilcox so it's wilcox qtLihh378ng-00518-00112420-00112590 t-a-s-h-w-i-l-l-c-o-c-k-s qtLihh378ng-00519-00112591-00112878 uh that's on instagram on twitter on qtLihh378ng-00520-00112879-00112983 linkedin qtLihh378ng-00521-00112983-00113166 don't contact me on facebook i really qtLihh378ng-00522-00113167-00113295 don't go on there qtLihh378ng-00523-00113296-00113615 um i'm on there i have a presence qtLihh378ng-00524-00113616-00113831 uh probably those are the main three qtLihh378ng-00525-00113832-00113958 that i interact on qtLihh378ng-00526-00113959-00114286 and i've just started a twitter list qtLihh378ng-00527-00114288-00114534 for service design um on twitter so if qtLihh378ng-00528-00114535-00114639 you want to follow that qtLihh378ng-00529-00114640-00114886 i'm adding daily because i just keep qtLihh378ng-00530-00114888-00115015 getting dreams and rooms qtLihh378ng-00531-00115016-00115175 people just going these are amazing qtLihh378ng-00532-00115176-00115319 people so qtLihh378ng-00533-00115320-00115566 i expect there will be more lists in the qtLihh378ng-00534-00115567-00115743 flow qtLihh378ng-00535-00115744-00115902 what advice would you like to leave us qtLihh378ng-00536-00115903-00116199 with qtLihh378ng-00537-00116200-00116590 i think for students if you don't ask qtLihh378ng-00538-00116591-00116863 you don't get and i know that's the most qtLihh378ng-00539-00116864-00116958 simple piece qtLihh378ng-00540-00116959-00117207 of advice i'm going to give three if you qtLihh378ng-00541-00117208-00117310 don't ask you don't get qtLihh378ng-00542-00117311-00117615 so ask just always ask politely and qtLihh378ng-00543-00117616-00117863 following up that grow thick skin if qtLihh378ng-00544-00117864-00117975 people say no to you qtLihh378ng-00545-00117976-00118127 it's because they're busy if they don't qtLihh378ng-00546-00118128-00118366 get back to you they're busy that is not qtLihh378ng-00547-00118367-00118407 them qtLihh378ng-00548-00118408-00118623 they they don't even know you they're qtLihh378ng-00549-00118624-00118823 not having a go at you so just qtLihh378ng-00550-00118824-00119007 be fine with it just move on to the next qtLihh378ng-00551-00119008-00119166 thing or send them another email never qtLihh378ng-00552-00119167-00119334 be afraid to follow up qtLihh378ng-00553-00119335-00119654 um and qtLihh378ng-00554-00119655-00119871 i'm just going to repeat that you can't qtLihh378ng-00555-00119872-00120054 be what you can't see qtLihh378ng-00556-00120055-00120207 and i am going to say about the age qtLihh378ng-00557-00120208-00120495 thing a little bit if you're a qtLihh378ng-00558-00120496-00120775 60 year old sat listening to this guy qtLihh378ng-00559-00120776-00120943 i'm too old for education qtLihh378ng-00560-00120944-00121183 you're not nobody is too world for qtLihh378ng-00561-00121183-00121271 education qtLihh378ng-00562-00121272-00121534 everybody benefits from it and having qtLihh378ng-00563-00121535-00121647 you in the room qtLihh378ng-00564-00121648-00121878 will benefit every student in the room qtLihh378ng-00565-00121879-00121951 so qtLihh378ng-00566-00121952-00122254 like everybody everybody should qtLihh378ng-00567-00122255-00122575 think about what do i want to learn how qtLihh378ng-00568-00122576-00122702 do i want to learn it qtLihh378ng-00569-00122703-00122895 and where do i want to learn it but it's qtLihh378ng-00570-00122896-00123247 never too late qtLihh378ng-00571-00123248-00123471 fantastic fantastic thank you so much qtLihh378ng-00572-00123472-00123558 for coming qtLihh378ng-00573-00123559-00123751 and i hope to see you in the design qtLihh378ng-00574-00123752-00123902 education forum this qtLihh378ng-00575-00123903-00124239 november and have a fantastic day qtLihh378ng-00576-00124240-00124672 cool thank you qumOpaTn5Wc-00000-00000048-00000303 Kunia for more Sumeru Akkadian cuneiform qumOpaTn5Wc-00001-00000304-00000544 one of the earliest systems of writing qumOpaTn5Wc-00002-00000545-00000827 was invented by the Sumerians it is qumOpaTn5Wc-00003-00000827-00001015 distinguished by its wedge-shaped marks qumOpaTn5Wc-00004-00001016-00001237 on clay tablets made by means of a blunt qumOpaTn5Wc-00005-00001238-00001525 Reed for a stylus the name Kamiya form qumOpaTn5Wc-00006-00001526-00001771 itself simply means wedge-shaped qumOpaTn5Wc-00007-00001772-00002009 emerging in Sumer in the late 4th qumOpaTn5Wc-00008-00002010-00002288 millennium BC the Uruk IV period to qumOpaTn5Wc-00009-00002289-00002483 convey the Sumerian language which was a qumOpaTn5Wc-00010-00002484-00002699 language isolate Kamiya form writing qumOpaTn5Wc-00011-00002700-00002945 began as a system of pictograms stemming qumOpaTn5Wc-00012-00002946-00003137 from an earlier system of shaped tokens qumOpaTn5Wc-00013-00003138-00003350 used for accounting in the 3rd qumOpaTn5Wc-00014-00003351-00003572 millennium the pictorial representations qumOpaTn5Wc-00015-00003572-00003800 became simplified and more abstract as qumOpaTn5Wc-00016-00003801-00003979 the number of characters in use grew qumOpaTn5Wc-00017-00003981-00004265 smaller hittite Kamiya form the system qumOpaTn5Wc-00018-00004266-00004454 consists of a combination of logo qumOpaTn5Wc-00019-00004455-00004667 phonetic consonantal alphabetic and qumOpaTn5Wc-00020-00004668-00004991 syllabic signs the original Sumerian qumOpaTn5Wc-00021-00004992-00005174 script was adapted for the writing of qumOpaTn5Wc-00022-00005175-00005374 the Semitic Akkadian Assyrian Babylonian qumOpaTn5Wc-00023-00005375-00005624 oblate and amirite languages the qumOpaTn5Wc-00024-00005625-00005870 language isolates ela might Patek Korean qumOpaTn5Wc-00025-00005871-00006086 and Eurasian as well as indo-european qumOpaTn5Wc-00026-00006087-00006263 languages Hittite and Liu Yin it qumOpaTn5Wc-00027-00006264-00006457 inspired the later Semitic Ugaritic qumOpaTn5Wc-00028-00006458-00006628 alphabet as well as old Persian qumOpaTn5Wc-00029-00006629-00006898 cuneiform cuneiform writing was qumOpaTn5Wc-00030-00006899-00007081 gradually replaced by the Phoenician qumOpaTn5Wc-00031-00007082-00007317 alphabet during the neo-assyrian empire qumOpaTn5Wc-00032-00007318-00007780 911 to 612 BC by the second century AD qumOpaTn5Wc-00033-00007781-00008030 the script had become extinct its last qumOpaTn5Wc-00034-00008031-00008221 traces being found in Assyria and qumOpaTn5Wc-00035-00008222-00008408 Babylonia and all knowledge of how to qumOpaTn5Wc-00036-00008409-00008594 read it was lost until it began to be qumOpaTn5Wc-00037-00008595-00008881 deciphered in the 19th century between qumOpaTn5Wc-00038-00008882-00009124 half a million and two million cuneiform qumOpaTn5Wc-00039-00009125-00009284 tablets are estimated to have been qumOpaTn5Wc-00040-00009285-00009509 excavated in modern times of which only qumOpaTn5Wc-00041-00009510-00009799 approximately 30,000 to 100,000 have qumOpaTn5Wc-00042-00009800-00010027 been read or published the British qumOpaTn5Wc-00043-00010028-00010317 Museum holds the largest collection see qumOpaTn5Wc-00044-00010318-00010558 130,000 followed by the Vorta regia qumOpaTn5Wc-00045-00010559-00010771 Tisha's museum berlin the loo the qumOpaTn5Wc-00046-00010772-00010984 istanbul archaeology museums the qumOpaTn5Wc-00047-00010985-00011176 National Museum of Iraq the Yale qumOpaTn5Wc-00048-00011177-00011455 Babylonian collection see 40,000 and qumOpaTn5Wc-00049-00011456-00011752 Penn Museum most of these have lain in qumOpaTn5Wc-00050-00011753-00011956 these collections for a century without qumOpaTn5Wc-00051-00011957-00012270 being translated studied or published as qumOpaTn5Wc-00052-00012271-00012535 there are only a few hundred qualified qumOpaTn5Wc-00053-00012536-00012993 cuneiform Asst tin the world qumOpaTn5Wc-00054-00012994-00013496 topic history qumOpaTn5Wc-00055-00013497-00013856 topic the cuneiform writing system was qumOpaTn5Wc-00056-00013857-00014015 in use for more than three millennia qumOpaTn5Wc-00057-00014016-00014210 through several stages of development qumOpaTn5Wc-00058-00014211-00014465 from the 31st century BC down to the qumOpaTn5Wc-00059-00014466-00014771 second century AD ultimately it was qumOpaTn5Wc-00060-00014772-00014960 completely replaced by alphabetic qumOpaTn5Wc-00061-00014961-00015143 writing in the general sense in the qumOpaTn5Wc-00062-00015144-00015319 course of the Roman era and there are no qumOpaTn5Wc-00063-00015321-00015626 kunia form systems in current use it had qumOpaTn5Wc-00064-00015627-00015821 to be deciphered as a completely unknown qumOpaTn5Wc-00065-00015822-00016079 writing system in 19th century a serial qumOpaTn5Wc-00066-00016080-00016349 adji successful completion of its qumOpaTn5Wc-00067-00016350-00016869 deciphering is dated to 1857 qumOpaTn5Wc-00068-00016870-00017410 topic prota literate period qumOpaTn5Wc-00069-00017411-00017737 topic the Kamiya forum script was qumOpaTn5Wc-00070-00017738-00017863 developed from pictographic qumOpaTn5Wc-00071-00017864-00018058 proto-writing in the late 4th millennium qumOpaTn5Wc-00072-00018059-00018325 BC stemming from the Near Eastern token qumOpaTn5Wc-00073-00018326-00018598 system used for accounting these tokens qumOpaTn5Wc-00074-00018599-00018808 were in use from the ninth millennium BC qumOpaTn5Wc-00075-00018809-00019021 and remained in occasional use even late qumOpaTn5Wc-00076-00019022-00019312 in the second millennium BC it has been qumOpaTn5Wc-00077-00019313-00019510 suggested that the token shapes were the qumOpaTn5Wc-00078-00019511-00019714 original basis for some of the Sumerian qumOpaTn5Wc-00079-00019715-00019996 pictographs mesopotamias proto literate qumOpaTn5Wc-00080-00019997-00020266 period spans roughly the thirty fifth to qumOpaTn5Wc-00081-00020267-00020545 32nd centuries the first documents qumOpaTn5Wc-00082-00020546-00020743 unequivocally written in Sumerian date qumOpaTn5Wc-00083-00020744-00020989 to the 31st century BC at gem debt qumOpaTn5Wc-00084-00020990-00021292 Nasser originally pictographs were qumOpaTn5Wc-00085-00021293-00021502 either drawn on clay tablets in vertical qumOpaTn5Wc-00086-00021503-00021706 columns with a sharpened reed stylus or qumOpaTn5Wc-00087-00021707-00022006 incised in stone this early style lacked qumOpaTn5Wc-00088-00022007-00022180 the characteristic wedge shape of The qumOpaTn5Wc-00089-00022181-00022498 Strokes certain signs to indicate names qumOpaTn5Wc-00090-00022499-00022786 of God's countries cities vessels birds qumOpaTn5Wc-00091-00022787-00023053 trees etc are known as determinative qumOpaTn5Wc-00092-00023054-00023230 sand were the Sumerian signs of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00093-00023231-00023416 terms in question added as a guide for qumOpaTn5Wc-00094-00023417-00023701 the reader proper names continued to be qumOpaTn5Wc-00095-00023702-00023953 usually written in purely laga graphic qumOpaTn5Wc-00096-00023954-00024072 fashion qumOpaTn5Wc-00097-00024073-00024358 the earliest known sumerian king whose qumOpaTn5Wc-00098-00024359-00024580 name appears on contemporary cuneiform qumOpaTn5Wc-00099-00024581-00024831 tablets as n mubarak se of Kish qumOpaTn5Wc-00100-00024832-00025099 surviving records only very gradually qumOpaTn5Wc-00101-00025100-00025282 become less fragmentary and more qumOpaTn5Wc-00102-00025283-00025480 complete for the following rains but by qumOpaTn5Wc-00103-00025481-00025663 the end of the priests are Ganic period qumOpaTn5Wc-00104-00025664-00025864 it had become standard practice for each qumOpaTn5Wc-00105-00025864-00026080 major city state to date documents by qumOpaTn5Wc-00106-00026081-00026287 year names commemorating the exploits of qumOpaTn5Wc-00107-00026288-00026698 its lugal came from about 2900 BC many qumOpaTn5Wc-00108-00026699-00026877 pictographs began to lose their original qumOpaTn5Wc-00109-00026879-00027090 function and a given sign could have qumOpaTn5Wc-00110-00027091-00027304 various meanings depending on context qumOpaTn5Wc-00111-00027305-00027614 the sign inventory was reduced from some qumOpaTn5Wc-00112-00027616-00027958 1500 signs to some 600 signs and writing qumOpaTn5Wc-00113-00027958-00028179 became increasingly phonological qumOpaTn5Wc-00114-00028180-00028426 determinative signs were reintroduced to qumOpaTn5Wc-00115-00028427-00028711 avoid ambiguity cuneiform writing proper qumOpaTn5Wc-00116-00028712-00028888 thus arises from the more primitive qumOpaTn5Wc-00117-00028889-00029086 system of pictographs at about that time qumOpaTn5Wc-00118-00029087-00029524 early Bronze Age 2 qumOpaTn5Wc-00119-00029525-00030069 topic archaic cuneiform qumOpaTn5Wc-00120-00030070-00030470 topic in the mid third millennium BC the qumOpaTn5Wc-00121-00030472-00030660 direction of writing was changed to left qumOpaTn5Wc-00122-00030661-00030891 to right in horizontal rows rotating all qumOpaTn5Wc-00123-00030892-00031056 of the pictographs 90 degrees qumOpaTn5Wc-00124-00031057-00031272 counterclockwise in the process and a qumOpaTn5Wc-00125-00031273-00031467 new wedge tipped stylus was introduced qumOpaTn5Wc-00126-00031468-00031668 which was pushed into the clay producing qumOpaTn5Wc-00127-00031669-00031995 wedge-shaped cuneiform signs these two qumOpaTn5Wc-00128-00031995-00032177 developments made writing quicker and qumOpaTn5Wc-00129-00032179-00032388 easier by adjusting the relative qumOpaTn5Wc-00130-00032389-00032604 position of the tablet to the stylus the qumOpaTn5Wc-00131-00032605-00032787 writer could use a single tool to make a qumOpaTn5Wc-00132-00032788-00033156 variety of impressions cuneiform tablets qumOpaTn5Wc-00133-00033157-00033330 could be fired in kilns to bake them qumOpaTn5Wc-00134-00033331-00033522 hard and so provide a permanent record qumOpaTn5Wc-00135-00033523-00033741 or they could be left moist and recycled qumOpaTn5Wc-00136-00033742-00034017 if permanence was not needed many of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00137-00034018-00034233 clay tablets found by archaeologists qumOpaTn5Wc-00138-00034234-00034419 have been preserved by chance baked when qumOpaTn5Wc-00139-00034420-00034608 attacking armies burned the buildings in qumOpaTn5Wc-00140-00034609-00034902 which they were kept the script was also qumOpaTn5Wc-00141-00034903-00035109 widely used on commemorative stelae and qumOpaTn5Wc-00142-00035110-00035247 carved reliefs to record the qumOpaTn5Wc-00143-00035248-00035394 achievements of the ruler and whose qumOpaTn5Wc-00144-00035395-00035679 honor the monument had been erected the qumOpaTn5Wc-00145-00035680-00035907 spoken language included many homophones qumOpaTn5Wc-00146-00035908-00036093 and near homophones and in the beginning qumOpaTn5Wc-00147-00036094-00036426 similar sounding words such as life till qumOpaTn5Wc-00148-00036427-00036708 and arrow T were written with the same qumOpaTn5Wc-00149-00036709-00036948 symbol after the Semites conquered qumOpaTn5Wc-00150-00036949-00037134 southern mesopotamia some signs qumOpaTn5Wc-00151-00037135-00037347 gradually changed from being pictograms qumOpaTn5Wc-00152-00037348-00037551 to syllabi grams most likely to make qumOpaTn5Wc-00153-00037552-00037794 things clearer in writing in that way qumOpaTn5Wc-00154-00037795-00038079 the sign for the word arrow would become qumOpaTn5Wc-00155-00038080-00038190 the sign for the sound qumOpaTn5Wc-00156-00038191-00038373 T qumOpaTn5Wc-00157-00038374-00038574 words that sounded alike would have qumOpaTn5Wc-00158-00038575-00038733 different signs for instance the qumOpaTn5Wc-00159-00038734-00039098 syllable view had 14 different symbols qumOpaTn5Wc-00160-00039099-00039362 when the words had similar meaning but qumOpaTn5Wc-00161-00039363-00039512 very different sounds they were written qumOpaTn5Wc-00162-00039513-00039818 with the same symbol for instance tooth qumOpaTn5Wc-00163-00039819-00040343 zu mouth taw end voice goo were all qumOpaTn5Wc-00164-00040344-00040652 written with the symbol for voice to be qumOpaTn5Wc-00165-00040653-00040862 more accurate scribes started adding to qumOpaTn5Wc-00166-00040863-00041076 signs or combining two signs to define qumOpaTn5Wc-00167-00041077-00041346 the meaning they used either geometrical qumOpaTn5Wc-00168-00041347-00041602 patterns or another Kamiya form sign as qumOpaTn5Wc-00169-00041603-00041892 time went by the kunia form got very qumOpaTn5Wc-00170-00041893-00042080 complex and the distinction between a qumOpaTn5Wc-00171-00042081-00042264 pictogram and syllabi Graham became qumOpaTn5Wc-00172-00042265-00042530 vague several symbols had too many qumOpaTn5Wc-00173-00042531-00042774 meanings to permit clarity therefore qumOpaTn5Wc-00174-00042775-00042962 symbols were put together to indicate qumOpaTn5Wc-00175-00042963-00043115 both the sound and the meaning of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00176-00043116-00043562 compound the word Raven uga had the same qumOpaTn5Wc-00177-00043563-00043887 laga Graham as the word soap Naga name qumOpaTn5Wc-00178-00043888-00044102 of a city a race and the patron goddess qumOpaTn5Wc-00179-00044103-00044436 of a rash and is a BA to phonetic qumOpaTn5Wc-00180-00044437-00044627 complements were used to define the word qumOpaTn5Wc-00181-00044628-00044896 you in front of the symbol and GU behind qumOpaTn5Wc-00182-00044897-00045267 finally the symbol for bird musen was qumOpaTn5Wc-00183-00045268-00045414 added to ensure proper interpretation qumOpaTn5Wc-00184-00045415-00045677 written Sumerian was used as a scribal qumOpaTn5Wc-00185-00045678-00045981 language until the 1st century AD the qumOpaTn5Wc-00186-00045982-00046193 spoken language died out around the 18th qumOpaTn5Wc-00187-00046194-00046576 century BC qumOpaTn5Wc-00188-00046577-00047122 topic Akkadian cuneiform qumOpaTn5Wc-00189-00047123-00047500 topic the archaic Kamiya form script was qumOpaTn5Wc-00190-00047501-00047710 adopted by the Akkadian Empire from the qumOpaTn5Wc-00191-00047711-00048025 23rd century BC short chronology and by qumOpaTn5Wc-00192-00048026-00048193 the beginning of the middle Bronze Age qumOpaTn5Wc-00193-00048194-00048490 20th century BC it had evolved into old qumOpaTn5Wc-00194-00048491-00048658 Assyrian Kamiya form with many qumOpaTn5Wc-00195-00048659-00048883 modifications to Sumerian orthography qumOpaTn5Wc-00196-00048884-00049117 the Semitic languages employed qumOpaTn5Wc-00197-00049118-00049294 equivalents for many signs that were qumOpaTn5Wc-00198-00049295-00049498 distorted or abbreviated to represent qumOpaTn5Wc-00199-00049499-00049708 new values because the syllabic nature qumOpaTn5Wc-00200-00049709-00049843 of the script is refined by the qumOpaTn5Wc-00201-00049844-00050059 Sumerians was not intuitive to Semitic qumOpaTn5Wc-00202-00050060-00050326 speakers at this stage the former qumOpaTn5Wc-00203-00050327-00050518 pictograms were reduced to a high level qumOpaTn5Wc-00204-00050519-00050740 of abstraction and were composed of only qumOpaTn5Wc-00205-00050741-00050968 five basic wedge shapes horizontal qumOpaTn5Wc-00206-00050969-00051178 vertical two diagonals and the wincle qumOpaTn5Wc-00207-00051179-00051373 hagen impressed vertically by the tip of qumOpaTn5Wc-00208-00051374-00051649 the stylus the signs exemplary of these qumOpaTn5Wc-00209-00051650-00052191 basic wedges are as B oo 1 u + 1 2 O 3 8 qumOpaTn5Wc-00210-00052192-00052798 horizontal disc B 748 u + 1 207 9 qumOpaTn5Wc-00211-00052799-00053539 vertical GE 23 dystiny B 575 u + 1 203 qumOpaTn5Wc-00212-00053540-00054196 nine downward diagonal GE 22 B 647 u + 1 qumOpaTn5Wc-00213-00054197-00054886 203 a upward diagonal u B 661 u + 1 2 3 qumOpaTn5Wc-00214-00054887-00055116 OB the wincle hakin except for the qumOpaTn5Wc-00215-00055117-00055303 wincle hakin which has no tail the qumOpaTn5Wc-00216-00055304-00055486 length of the wedges tails could vary is qumOpaTn5Wc-00217-00055487-00055779 required for sign composition signs qumOpaTn5Wc-00218-00055780-00056044 tilted by about 45 degrees are called 10 qumOpaTn5Wc-00219-00056045-00056257 you indicate e'en thus dis is a vertical qumOpaTn5Wc-00220-00056258-00056461 wedge and this tend to a diagonal one if qumOpaTn5Wc-00221-00056462-00056707 a sign is modified with additional qumOpaTn5Wc-00222-00056708-00056938 wedges this is called gonna or gonna qumOpaTn5Wc-00223-00056939-00057202 fication if signs are cross-hatched with qumOpaTn5Wc-00224-00057203-00057376 additional winkel hakken they are called qumOpaTn5Wc-00225-00057377-00057567 sesang if signs are modified by the qumOpaTn5Wc-00226-00057569-00057763 removal of a wedge or wedges they are qumOpaTn5Wc-00227-00057764-00058150 called Matilda typical signs have about qumOpaTn5Wc-00228-00058151-00058411 5 to 10 wedges while complex ligatures qumOpaTn5Wc-00229-00058412-00058633 can consist of 20 or more although it is qumOpaTn5Wc-00230-00058634-00058837 not always clear if a ligature should be qumOpaTn5Wc-00231-00058838-00059055 considered a single sign or two collated qumOpaTn5Wc-00232-00059057-00059254 but distinct signs the ligature CAC qumOpaTn5Wc-00233-00059254-00059632 score 7 consists of 31 strokes most qumOpaTn5Wc-00234-00059633-00059829 later adaptations of Sumerian cuneiform qumOpaTn5Wc-00235-00059830-00060073 preserved at least some aspects of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00236-00060074-00060322 Sumerian script written Akkadian qumOpaTn5Wc-00237-00060323-00060516 included phonetic symbols from the SU qumOpaTn5Wc-00238-00060517-00060705 Berrien syllabary together with laga qumOpaTn5Wc-00239-00060707-00060979 grams that were read as whole words many qumOpaTn5Wc-00240-00060979-00061179 signs in the script were polyvalent qumOpaTn5Wc-00241-00061180-00061396 having both a syllabic and log a graphic qumOpaTn5Wc-00242-00061397-00061633 meaning the complexity of the system qumOpaTn5Wc-00243-00061634-00061842 bears a resemblance to old Japanese qumOpaTn5Wc-00244-00061844-00062041 written in a Chinese derived script qumOpaTn5Wc-00245-00062041-00062200 where some of these saina grams were qumOpaTn5Wc-00246-00062201-00062374 used as laga grams and others as qumOpaTn5Wc-00247-00062375-00062802 phonetic characters qumOpaTn5Wc-00248-00062803-00063294 topic Assyrian cuneiform qumOpaTn5Wc-00249-00063295-00063723 topic this mixed method of writing qumOpaTn5Wc-00250-00063724-00063875 continued through the end of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00251-00063876-00064116 Babylonian and Assyrian empires although qumOpaTn5Wc-00252-00064116-00064394 there were periods when purism was in qumOpaTn5Wc-00253-00064395-00064550 fashion and there was a more marked qumOpaTn5Wc-00254-00064551-00064688 tendency to spell out the words qumOpaTn5Wc-00255-00064689-00064901 laborious ly in preference to using qumOpaTn5Wc-00256-00064902-00065144 signs with a phonetic complement yet qumOpaTn5Wc-00257-00065145-00065334 even in those days the Babylonian qumOpaTn5Wc-00258-00065335-00065523 syllabary remained a mixture of laga qumOpaTn5Wc-00259-00065524-00065817 graphic and phonemic writing Hittite qumOpaTn5Wc-00260-00065818-00066009 Kamiya form as an adaptation of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00261-00066010-00066419 oldest Syrian cuneiform of C 1800 BC to qumOpaTn5Wc-00262-00066420-00066624 the Hittite language when the Kamiya qumOpaTn5Wc-00263-00066625-00066800 form script was adapted to writing qumOpaTn5Wc-00264-00066801-00067037 Hittite a layer of Akkadian laga graphic qumOpaTn5Wc-00265-00067038-00067197 Spelling's was added to the script qumOpaTn5Wc-00266-00067198-00067400 thus the pronunciations of many Hittite qumOpaTn5Wc-00267-00067401-00067578 words which were conventionally written qumOpaTn5Wc-00268-00067579-00067866 by laga grams are now unknown in the qumOpaTn5Wc-00269-00067867-00068156 Iron Age C 10th to 6th centuries bc qumOpaTn5Wc-00270-00068157-00068346 assyrian Kamiya form was further qumOpaTn5Wc-00271-00068347-00068634 simplified from the 6th century the qumOpaTn5Wc-00272-00068635-00068853 Akkadian language was marginalized by qumOpaTn5Wc-00273-00068854-00069068 Aramaic written in the aramean alphabet qumOpaTn5Wc-00274-00069069-00069300 but neo-assyrian cuneiform remained in qumOpaTn5Wc-00275-00069301-00069506 use in literary tradition well into qumOpaTn5Wc-00276-00069507-00069954 times of Parthian Empire 250 BC ad 226 qumOpaTn5Wc-00277-00069955-00070260 the last known cuneiform inscription an qumOpaTn5Wc-00278-00070261-00070586 astronomical text was written in 75 ad qumOpaTn5Wc-00279-00070587-00070826 topic derived scripts topic the qumOpaTn5Wc-00280-00070827-00071022 complexity of the system prompted the qumOpaTn5Wc-00281-00071023-00071201 development of a number of simplified qumOpaTn5Wc-00282-00071202-00071478 versions of the script Old Persian was qumOpaTn5Wc-00283-00071479-00071691 written in a subset of simplified Kamiya qumOpaTn5Wc-00284-00071692-00071865 form characters known today as Old qumOpaTn5Wc-00285-00071866-00072138 Persian Kamiya form it formed a semi qumOpaTn5Wc-00286-00072139-00072366 alphabetic syllabary using far fewer qumOpaTn5Wc-00287-00072367-00072581 wedge strokes than Assyrian use together qumOpaTn5Wc-00288-00072582-00072782 with a handful of laga grams for qumOpaTn5Wc-00289-00072783-00072966 frequently occurring words like God and qumOpaTn5Wc-00290-00072967-00073238 King Ugaritic was written using the qumOpaTn5Wc-00291-00073239-00073455 Ugaritic alphabet a standard semitic qumOpaTn5Wc-00292-00073456-00073665 style alphabet an abjad written using qumOpaTn5Wc-00293-00073666-00073899 the Kamiya form method topic qumOpaTn5Wc-00294-00073900-00074085 decipherment topic for centuries qumOpaTn5Wc-00295-00074086-00074280 travelers to Persepolis in modern-day qumOpaTn5Wc-00296-00074281-00074505 Iran had noticed carved Kamiya form qumOpaTn5Wc-00297-00074506-00074784 inscriptions and were intrigued attempts qumOpaTn5Wc-00298-00074785-00074928 at deciphering these Old Persian qumOpaTn5Wc-00299-00074929-00075141 writings date back to Arab o Persian qumOpaTn5Wc-00300-00075142-00075350 historians of the medieval Islamic world qumOpaTn5Wc-00301-00075351-00075492 though these early attempts at qumOpaTn5Wc-00302-00075493-00075656 decipherment were largely unsuccessful qumOpaTn5Wc-00303-00075657-00075909 in the 15th century the Venetian qumOpaTn5Wc-00304-00075910-00076151 Josephat Barbaro explored ancient ruins qumOpaTn5Wc-00305-00076152-00076323 in the Middle East and came back with qumOpaTn5Wc-00306-00076324-00076518 news of a very odd writing he had found qumOpaTn5Wc-00307-00076519-00076618 carved on the stone qumOpaTn5Wc-00308-00076619-00076798 in the temples of Shiraz and on many qumOpaTn5Wc-00309-00076799-00077098 clay tablets Antonio de Gouveia a qumOpaTn5Wc-00310-00077099-00077419 professor of theology noted in 1602 the qumOpaTn5Wc-00311-00077420-00077590 strange writing he had had occasion to qumOpaTn5Wc-00312-00077591-00077758 observe during his travels a year qumOpaTn5Wc-00313-00077759-00077953 earlier in Persia which took in visits qumOpaTn5Wc-00314-00077954-00078322 to ruins in 1625 the Roman traveller qumOpaTn5Wc-00315-00078323-00078550 Pietro della valle who had sojourned in qumOpaTn5Wc-00316-00078551-00078904 Mesopotamia between 1616 and 1621 qumOpaTn5Wc-00317-00078905-00079105 brought to Europe copies of characters qumOpaTn5Wc-00318-00079106-00079315 he had seen in Persepolis and inscribed qumOpaTn5Wc-00319-00079316-00079500 bricks from ER in the ruins of Babylon qumOpaTn5Wc-00320-00079501-00079759 the copies he made the first that qumOpaTn5Wc-00321-00079760-00079957 reached circulation within Europe were qumOpaTn5Wc-00322-00079958-00080125 not quite accurate but Della Valle qumOpaTn5Wc-00323-00080126-00080314 understood that the writing had to be qumOpaTn5Wc-00324-00080315-00080482 read from left to right following the qumOpaTn5Wc-00325-00080483-00080677 direction of wedges but did not attempt qumOpaTn5Wc-00326-00080678-00080887 to decipher the scripts Englishman Sir qumOpaTn5Wc-00327-00080888-00081160 Thomas Herbert in the 1638 edition of qumOpaTn5Wc-00328-00081161-00081361 his travel book some years travels into qumOpaTn5Wc-00329-00081362-00081565 Africa and Asia the great reported qumOpaTn5Wc-00330-00081566-00081748 seeing at Persepolis carved on the wall qumOpaTn5Wc-00331-00081749-00081918 a dozen lines of strange characters qumOpaTn5Wc-00332-00081919-00082216 consisting of figures obelisk triangular qumOpaTn5Wc-00333-00082217-00082405 and pyramidal and thought they resembled qumOpaTn5Wc-00334-00082406-00082792 Greek in the 1677 Edition he reproduced qumOpaTn5Wc-00335-00082793-00082969 some and thought they were legible and qumOpaTn5Wc-00336-00082970-00083160 intelligible and therefore decipherable qumOpaTn5Wc-00337-00083161-00083425 he also guessed correctly that they qumOpaTn5Wc-00338-00083426-00083641 represented not letters or hieroglyphics qumOpaTn5Wc-00339-00083642-00083827 but words and syllables and were to be qumOpaTn5Wc-00340-00083828-00084064 read from left to right herbert is qumOpaTn5Wc-00341-00084065-00084253 rarely mentioned in standard histories qumOpaTn5Wc-00342-00084254-00084444 of the decipherment of Kamiya form qumOpaTn5Wc-00343-00084445-00084640 Carsten Eber brought the first qumOpaTn5Wc-00344-00084641-00084868 reasonably complete and accurate copies qumOpaTn5Wc-00345-00084869-00085054 of the inscriptions at Persepolis to qumOpaTn5Wc-00346-00085055-00085426 Europe in 1767 bishop friedrich Munter qumOpaTn5Wc-00347-00085427-00085618 of copenhagen discovered that the words qumOpaTn5Wc-00348-00085619-00085816 in the persian inscriptions were divided qumOpaTn5Wc-00349-00085817-00086017 from one another by an oblique wedge and qumOpaTn5Wc-00350-00086018-00086173 that the monuments must belong to the qumOpaTn5Wc-00351-00086174-00086473 age of cyrus and his successors one word qumOpaTn5Wc-00352-00086474-00086668 which occurs without any variation qumOpaTn5Wc-00353-00086669-00086782 towards the beginning of each qumOpaTn5Wc-00354-00086783-00086965 inscription he correctly inferred to qumOpaTn5Wc-00355-00086966-00087364 signify king by 1802 georg friedrich bro qumOpaTn5Wc-00356-00087365-00087547 defend had determined that two kings qumOpaTn5Wc-00357-00087548-00087724 names mentioned were Darius and Xerxes qumOpaTn5Wc-00358-00087725-00087967 but in their native Old Persian forms qumOpaTn5Wc-00359-00087968-00088129 which were unknown at the time and qumOpaTn5Wc-00360-00088130-00088309 therefore had to be conjectured and had qumOpaTn5Wc-00361-00088310-00088498 been able to assign correct alphabetic qumOpaTn5Wc-00362-00088499-00088693 values to the Kamiya form characters qumOpaTn5Wc-00363-00088694-00088884 which composed the two names although qumOpaTn5Wc-00364-00088885-00089236 gros defend s memoir was presented to qumOpaTn5Wc-00365-00089237-00089457 the Gooding and Academy of Sciences and qumOpaTn5Wc-00366-00089458-00089788 humanities on September 4th 1802 the qumOpaTn5Wc-00367-00089789-00090004 Academy refused to publish it he qumOpaTn5Wc-00368-00090005-00090316 was subsequently published in hearin s qumOpaTn5Wc-00369-00090317-00090616 work in 1815 but was overlooked by most qumOpaTn5Wc-00370-00090617-00090894 researchers at the time in 1836 the qumOpaTn5Wc-00371-00090895-00091099 eminent French scholar Eugene Bern oof qumOpaTn5Wc-00372-00091100-00091249 discovered that the first of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00373-00091250-00091413 inscriptions published by niebuhr qumOpaTn5Wc-00374-00091414-00091591 contained a list of the say trapeze of qumOpaTn5Wc-00375-00091592-00091869 darius with this clue in his hand he qumOpaTn5Wc-00376-00091870-00092074 identified and published an alphabet of qumOpaTn5Wc-00377-00092075-00092260 30 letters most of which he had qumOpaTn5Wc-00378-00092261-00092463 correctly deciphered a month earlier a qumOpaTn5Wc-00379-00092464-00092746 friend and pupil of Bern oof s professor qumOpaTn5Wc-00380-00092747-00092974 Christian lassen of Bonn had also qumOpaTn5Wc-00381-00092975-00093142 published his own work on the old qumOpaTn5Wc-00382-00093143-00093363 Persian Kamiya forum inscriptions of qumOpaTn5Wc-00383-00093364-00093673 Persepolis he and Bern oof had been in qumOpaTn5Wc-00384-00093674-00093904 frequent correspondence and his claim to qumOpaTn5Wc-00385-00093905-00094135 have independently detected the names of qumOpaTn5Wc-00386-00094136-00094342 the satrapies and thereby to have fixed qumOpaTn5Wc-00387-00094343-00094581 the values of the Persian characters was qumOpaTn5Wc-00388-00094582-00094806 consequently fiercely attacked qumOpaTn5Wc-00389-00094807-00095044 according to seis whatever his qumOpaTn5Wc-00390-00095045-00095260 obligations to Bern oof may have been qumOpaTn5Wc-00391-00095261-00095587 blasted as qumOpaTn5Wc-00392-00095588-00095798 contributions to the decipherment of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00393-00095799-00095996 inscriptions were numerous and important qumOpaTn5Wc-00394-00095997-00096278 he succeeded in fixing the true values qumOpaTn5Wc-00395-00096279-00096470 of nearly all the letters in the Persian qumOpaTn5Wc-00396-00096471-00096680 alphabet in translating the texts and qumOpaTn5Wc-00397-00096681-00096851 improving that the language of them was qumOpaTn5Wc-00398-00096852-00097043 not Zen but stood to both Zend and qumOpaTn5Wc-00399-00097044-00097279 Sanskrit in the relation of a sister qumOpaTn5Wc-00400-00097280-00097631 meanwhile in 1835 henri Rawlinson a qumOpaTn5Wc-00401-00097632-00097865 British East India Company Army officer qumOpaTn5Wc-00402-00097866-00098060 visited the behistun inscription Xin qumOpaTn5Wc-00403-00098061-00098300 Persia carved in the reign of King qumOpaTn5Wc-00404-00098301-00098765 Darius of Persia 522 to 486 BC they qumOpaTn5Wc-00405-00098766-00098969 consisted of identical texts in the qumOpaTn5Wc-00406-00098970-00099157 three official languages of the Empire qumOpaTn5Wc-00407-00099158-00099461 Old Persian Assyrian and elamite the qumOpaTn5Wc-00408-00099462-00099620 behistun inscription was to the qumOpaTn5Wc-00409-00099621-00099797 decipherment of cuneiform what the qumOpaTn5Wc-00410-00099798-00099986 rosetta stone was to the decipherment of qumOpaTn5Wc-00411-00099987-00100235 egyptian hieroglyphs Rawlinson correctly qumOpaTn5Wc-00412-00100236-00100391 deduced that the old persian was a qumOpaTn5Wc-00413-00100392-00100553 phonetic script and he successfully qumOpaTn5Wc-00414-00100554-00100913 deciphered it in 1837 he finished his qumOpaTn5Wc-00415-00100914-00101101 copy of the B histone inscription and qumOpaTn5Wc-00416-00101102-00101276 sent a translation of its opening qumOpaTn5Wc-00417-00101277-00101534 paragraphs to the Royal Asiatic Society qumOpaTn5Wc-00418-00101535-00101780 before his article could be published qumOpaTn5Wc-00419-00101781-00101993 however the works of lassen and Bern oof qumOpaTn5Wc-00420-00101994-00102203 reached him necessitating a revision of qumOpaTn5Wc-00421-00102204-00102389 his article and the postponement of its qumOpaTn5Wc-00422-00102390-00102661 publication then came other causes of qumOpaTn5Wc-00423-00102663-00102965 delay in 1847 the first part of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00424-00102966-00103154 Rawlinson z' memoir was published the qumOpaTn5Wc-00425-00103155-00103400 second part did not appear until 18-49 qumOpaTn5Wc-00426-00103401-00103681 the task of deciphering the Persian qumOpaTn5Wc-00427-00103682-00103871 cuneiform texts was virtually qumOpaTn5Wc-00428-00103872-00104048 accomplished after translating the qumOpaTn5Wc-00429-00104049-00104216 Persian Rawlinson and working qumOpaTn5Wc-00430-00104217-00104438 independently of him the irish assyria qumOpaTn5Wc-00431-00104439-00104644 lodgest edward hanks began to decipher qumOpaTn5Wc-00432-00104645-00104915 the others the actual techniques used to qumOpaTn5Wc-00433-00104916-00105098 decipher the Akkadian language have qumOpaTn5Wc-00434-00105099-00105263 never been fully published Hinks qumOpaTn5Wc-00435-00105264-00105455 described how he sought the proper names qumOpaTn5Wc-00436-00105456-00105634 already legible in the deciphered qumOpaTn5Wc-00437-00105635-00105811 Persian while Rawlinson never said qumOpaTn5Wc-00438-00105813-00105953 anything at all leading some to qumOpaTn5Wc-00439-00105954-00106154 speculate that he was secretly copying qumOpaTn5Wc-00440-00106155-00106316 Hinks they were greatly helped by the qumOpaTn5Wc-00441-00106317-00106472 excavations of the French naturalist qumOpaTn5Wc-00442-00106473-00106741 Paul Emile bada and English traveler and qumOpaTn5Wc-00443-00106742-00106952 diplomat Austen Henry Layard of the city qumOpaTn5Wc-00444-00106953-00107297 of Nineveh from 1842 among the treasures qumOpaTn5Wc-00445-00107298-00107498 uncovered by Laird and his successor qumOpaTn5Wc-00446-00107499-00107891 Hormuz rasam were in 18-49 and 1851 the qumOpaTn5Wc-00447-00107892-00108107 remains of two libraries now mixed up qumOpaTn5Wc-00448-00108108-00108259 usually called the Library of qumOpaTn5Wc-00449-00108260-00108455 Assurbanipal a royal archive containing qumOpaTn5Wc-00450-00108456-00108725 tens of thousands of baked clay tablets qumOpaTn5Wc-00451-00108726-00108965 covered with cuneiform inscriptions qumOpaTn5Wc-00452-00108966-00109295 by 1851 pinks and Rawlinson could read qumOpaTn5Wc-00453-00109296-00109601 200 Babylonian signs they were soon qumOpaTn5Wc-00454-00109602-00109806 joined by two other deciphers young qumOpaTn5Wc-00455-00109807-00110031 German born scholar Julius opport and qumOpaTn5Wc-00456-00110032-00110231 versatile British orientalist William qumOpaTn5Wc-00457-00110232-00110609 Henry Fox Talbot in 1857 the four men qumOpaTn5Wc-00458-00110610-00110804 met in London and took part in a famous qumOpaTn5Wc-00459-00110805-00111014 experiment to test the accuracy of their qumOpaTn5Wc-00460-00111015-00111329 decipherment Edwin Norris the secretary qumOpaTn5Wc-00461-00111330-00111557 of the Royal Asiatic Society gave each qumOpaTn5Wc-00462-00111558-00111731 of them a copy of a recently discovered qumOpaTn5Wc-00463-00111732-00111887 inscription from the reign of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00464-00111888-00112100 Assyrian Emperor tiglath-pileser the qumOpaTn5Wc-00465-00112101-00112313 first a jury of experts was impaneled to qumOpaTn5Wc-00466-00112314-00112518 examine the resulting translations and qumOpaTn5Wc-00467-00112519-00112790 assess their accuracy in all essential qumOpaTn5Wc-00468-00112791-00112988 points that translations produced by the qumOpaTn5Wc-00469-00112989-00113181 four scholars were found to be in close qumOpaTn5Wc-00470-00113182-00113429 agreement with one another there were of qumOpaTn5Wc-00471-00113430-00113648 course some slight discrepancies the qumOpaTn5Wc-00472-00113649-00113834 inexperienced talbot had made a number qumOpaTn5Wc-00473-00113835-00114122 of mistakes and opport s translation qumOpaTn5Wc-00474-00114123-00114353 contained a few doubtful passages which qumOpaTn5Wc-00475-00114354-00114563 the jury politely ascribed to his qumOpaTn5Wc-00476-00114564-00114796 unfamiliarity with the English language qumOpaTn5Wc-00477-00114797-00115124 but Hanks and Rawlinson versions qumOpaTn5Wc-00478-00115125-00115352 correspondent remarkably closely in many qumOpaTn5Wc-00479-00115353-00115583 respects the jury declared itself qumOpaTn5Wc-00480-00115584-00115757 satisfied and the decipherment of qumOpaTn5Wc-00481-00115758-00115985 Akkadian cuneiform was a judged a fait qumOpaTn5Wc-00482-00115986-00116396 accompli qumOpaTn5Wc-00483-00116397-00116845 topic proper names qumOpaTn5Wc-00484-00116846-00117198 topic in the early days of Kamiya forum qumOpaTn5Wc-00485-00117199-00117390 decipherment the reading of proper names qumOpaTn5Wc-00486-00117391-00117566 presented the greatest difficulties qumOpaTn5Wc-00487-00117567-00117789 however there is now a better qumOpaTn5Wc-00488-00117790-00117970 understanding of the principles behind qumOpaTn5Wc-00489-00117971-00118183 the formation and the pronunciation of qumOpaTn5Wc-00490-00118183-00118333 the thousands of names found in qumOpaTn5Wc-00491-00118333-00118560 historical records business documents qumOpaTn5Wc-00492-00118561-00118798 votive inscriptions literary productions qumOpaTn5Wc-00493-00118799-00119037 and legal documents the primary qumOpaTn5Wc-00494-00119038-00119160 challenge was posed by the qumOpaTn5Wc-00495-00119161-00119379 characteristic use of old Sumerian qumOpaTn5Wc-00496-00119380-00119541 non-phonetic laga grams in other qumOpaTn5Wc-00497-00119542-00119688 languages that had different qumOpaTn5Wc-00498-00119689-00119885 pronunciations for the same symbols qumOpaTn5Wc-00499-00119886-00120157 until the exact phonetic reading of many qumOpaTn5Wc-00500-00120158-00120324 names was determined through parallel qumOpaTn5Wc-00501-00120325-00120612 passages or explanatory lists scholars qumOpaTn5Wc-00502-00120613-00120789 remained in doubt or had recourse to qumOpaTn5Wc-00503-00120790-00121001 conjectural or provisional readings qumOpaTn5Wc-00504-00121002-00121299 however in many cases there are variant qumOpaTn5Wc-00505-00121300-00121461 readings the same name being written qumOpaTn5Wc-00506-00121462-00121696 phonetically in whole or in part in one qumOpaTn5Wc-00507-00121697-00122197 instance and laga graphically in another qumOpaTn5Wc-00508-00122198-00122744 topic transliteration qumOpaTn5Wc-00509-00122745-00123125 topic cuneiform has a specific format qumOpaTn5Wc-00510-00123126-00123334 for transliteration because of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00511-00123335-00123638 script s polyvalence transliteration qumOpaTn5Wc-00512-00123639-00123827 requires certain choices of the qumOpaTn5Wc-00513-00123828-00124094 transliterating scholar must decide in qumOpaTn5Wc-00514-00124095-00124268 the case of each sign which of its qumOpaTn5Wc-00515-00124269-00124499 several possible meanings as intended in qumOpaTn5Wc-00516-00124500-00124814 the original document for example the qumOpaTn5Wc-00517-00124815-00125138 sign D ing I are in a hit I'd text may qumOpaTn5Wc-00518-00125139-00125348 represent either the Hittites syllable qumOpaTn5Wc-00519-00125349-00125560 and/or maybe part of an Akkadian phrase qumOpaTn5Wc-00520-00125561-00125804 representing the syllable LLL it may be qumOpaTn5Wc-00521-00125805-00125996 a Sumer a Graham representing the qumOpaTn5Wc-00522-00125997-00126334 original Sumerian meaning God or the qumOpaTn5Wc-00523-00126335-00126523 determinative for a deity in qumOpaTn5Wc-00524-00126524-00126736 transliteration a different renditions qumOpaTn5Wc-00525-00126738-00126893 of the same glyph has chosen depending qumOpaTn5Wc-00526-00126894-00127134 on its role in the present context qumOpaTn5Wc-00527-00127135-00127532 therefore a text containing d ing ir and qumOpaTn5Wc-00528-00127533-00127721 mu in succession could be construed to qumOpaTn5Wc-00529-00127722-00128120 represent the words an ax Ilah God plus qumOpaTn5Wc-00530-00128121-00128471 a the accusative case ending god plus qumOpaTn5Wc-00531-00128472-00128780 water or a divine name a or water qumOpaTn5Wc-00532-00128781-00129017 someone transcribing the signs would qumOpaTn5Wc-00533-00129018-00129184 make the decision how the signs should qumOpaTn5Wc-00534-00129185-00129418 be read and assembled the signs as an ax qumOpaTn5Wc-00535-00129419-00130072 ila Ilah God plus accusative case etc a qumOpaTn5Wc-00536-00130073-00130285 transliteration of these signs however qumOpaTn5Wc-00537-00130286-00130478 would separate the signs with dashes qumOpaTn5Wc-00538-00130479-00131177 illa and uh di and g ir a-- or da this qumOpaTn5Wc-00539-00131178-00131324 is still easier to read than the qumOpaTn5Wc-00540-00131325-00131519 original Kamiya form but now the reader qumOpaTn5Wc-00541-00131520-00131717 is able to trace the sounds back to the qumOpaTn5Wc-00542-00131718-00131894 original signs and determine if the qumOpaTn5Wc-00543-00131895-00132071 correct decision was made on how to read qumOpaTn5Wc-00544-00132072-00132341 them a transliterated document thus qumOpaTn5Wc-00545-00132342-00132497 presents the reading preferred by the qumOpaTn5Wc-00546-00132498-00132707 transliterating scholar as well as an qumOpaTn5Wc-00547-00132708-00132911 opportunity to reconstruct the original qumOpaTn5Wc-00548-00132912-00133214 text there are differing conventions for qumOpaTn5Wc-00549-00133215-00133402 transliterating Sumerian Akkadian qumOpaTn5Wc-00550-00133403-00133628 Babylonian and Hittites and Luo Yin qumOpaTn5Wc-00551-00133629-00133934 Kamiya form texts one convention that qumOpaTn5Wc-00552-00133935-00134093 sees wide use across the different qumOpaTn5Wc-00553-00134094-00134297 fields as the use of acute and grave qumOpaTn5Wc-00554-00134298-00134519 accents as an abbreviation for homophone qumOpaTn5Wc-00555-00134520-00134819 disambiguation thus U is equivalent to qumOpaTn5Wc-00556-00134820-00135014 you won the first glyph expressing qumOpaTn5Wc-00557-00135015-00135308 phonetic u an acute accent U is qumOpaTn5Wc-00558-00135309-00135557 equivalent to the second u2 and a grave qumOpaTn5Wc-00559-00135558-00135809 accent you to the third u3 glyph in the qumOpaTn5Wc-00560-00135810-00135989 series while the sequence of numbering qumOpaTn5Wc-00561-00135990-00136124 is conventional but qumOpaTn5Wc-00562-00136125-00136358 arbitrary and subject to the history of qumOpaTn5Wc-00563-00136359-00136658 decipherment in Sumerian transliteration qumOpaTn5Wc-00564-00136659-00136988 a multiplication sign X is used to qumOpaTn5Wc-00565-00136989-00137249 indicate typographic ligatures as shown qumOpaTn5Wc-00566-00137250-00137468 above signs as such are represented in qumOpaTn5Wc-00567-00137469-00137648 capital letters while the specific qumOpaTn5Wc-00568-00137649-00137798 reading selected in the transliteration qumOpaTn5Wc-00569-00137799-00138023 is represented in small letters qumOpaTn5Wc-00570-00138024-00138287 thus capital letters can be used to qumOpaTn5Wc-00571-00138288-00138482 indicate a so-called diri compound qumOpaTn5Wc-00572-00138483-00138632 assigned sequence that has in qumOpaTn5Wc-00573-00138633-00138830 combination reading different from the qumOpaTn5Wc-00574-00138831-00139034 sum of the individual constituent signs qumOpaTn5Wc-00575-00139035-00139348 for example the compound IGI a water qumOpaTn5Wc-00576-00139349-00139745 plus I has the reading m meaning qumOpaTn5Wc-00577-00139746-00140090 foam in a diri compound the individual qumOpaTn5Wc-00578-00140091-00140261 signs are separated with dots in qumOpaTn5Wc-00579-00140262-00140555 transliteration capital letters may also qumOpaTn5Wc-00580-00140556-00140762 be used to indicate a Sumer a gram for qumOpaTn5Wc-00581-00140763-00141080 example ku Babur Sumerian for silver qumOpaTn5Wc-00582-00141081-00141323 being used with the intended Akkadian qumOpaTn5Wc-00583-00141324-00141650 reading cusp u silver and a kata gram or qumOpaTn5Wc-00584-00141651-00141824 simply a signed sequence of who's qumOpaTn5Wc-00585-00141825-00142006 reading the editor is uncertain qumOpaTn5Wc-00586-00142007-00142352 naturally the real reading if it is qumOpaTn5Wc-00587-00142353-00142568 clear will be presented in small letters qumOpaTn5Wc-00588-00142569-00142829 in the transliteration IGI a will be qumOpaTn5Wc-00589-00142830-00143096 rendered as in hor for since the qumOpaTn5Wc-00590-00143097-00143288 Sumerian language has only been widely qumOpaTn5Wc-00591-00143289-00143474 known and studied by scholars for qumOpaTn5Wc-00592-00143475-00143693 approximately a century changes in the qumOpaTn5Wc-00593-00143694-00143891 accepted reading of Sumerian names have qumOpaTn5Wc-00594-00143892-00144152 occurred from time to time thus the name qumOpaTn5Wc-00595-00144153-00144341 of the king of ur read her bow at one qumOpaTn5Wc-00596-00144342-00144572 time was later read as her anger and is qumOpaTn5Wc-00597-00144573-00144764 now read as earn namu or earn Amma for qumOpaTn5Wc-00598-00144765-00145043 lugol's HC a king of Uruk some scholars qumOpaTn5Wc-00599-00145044-00145271 continue to read angles eg C and so qumOpaTn5Wc-00600-00145272-00145550 forth also with some names of the older qumOpaTn5Wc-00601-00145551-00145733 period there was often uncertainty qumOpaTn5Wc-00602-00145734-00145910 whether their bearers were Sumerians or qumOpaTn5Wc-00603-00145911-00146177 Semites if the former then their names qumOpaTn5Wc-00604-00146178-00146366 could be assumed to be read as Sumerian qumOpaTn5Wc-00605-00146367-00146570 while if they were Semites the signs for qumOpaTn5Wc-00606-00146571-00146741 writing their names were probably to be qumOpaTn5Wc-00607-00146742-00146873 read according to their Semitic qumOpaTn5Wc-00608-00146874-00147065 equivalents though occasionally Semites qumOpaTn5Wc-00609-00147066-00147230 might be encountered barring genuine qumOpaTn5Wc-00610-00147231-00147482 Sumerian names there was also doubt qumOpaTn5Wc-00611-00147483-00147674 whether the signs composing a Semites qumOpaTn5Wc-00612-00147675-00147890 name represented a phonetic reading or a qumOpaTn5Wc-00613-00147891-00148037 log a graphic compound qumOpaTn5Wc-00614-00148038-00148340 thus eg when inscriptions of a semitic qumOpaTn5Wc-00615-00148341-00148523 ruler of Kish whose name was written qumOpaTn5Wc-00616-00148524-00148787 guru Mew ush were first deciphered that qumOpaTn5Wc-00617-00148788-00149009 name was first taken to be laga graphic qumOpaTn5Wc-00618-00149010-00149276 because room.you ush could be read as he qumOpaTn5Wc-00619-00149277-00149429 founded a city qumOpaTn5Wc-00620-00149430-00149636 in Sumerian and scholars accordingly qumOpaTn5Wc-00621-00149637-00149801 retranslated it back to the original qumOpaTn5Wc-00622-00149802-00150089 Semitic as a loo you char sheet it was qumOpaTn5Wc-00623-00150090-00150299 later recognized that the URI sign can qumOpaTn5Wc-00624-00150300-00150470 also be read as rien that the name is qumOpaTn5Wc-00625-00150471-00150946 that of the Akkadian king Ramesh qumOpaTn5Wc-00626-00150947-00151472 topic syllabary qumOpaTn5Wc-00627-00151473-00151838 topic the tables below show signs used qumOpaTn5Wc-00628-00151839-00152045 for simple syllables of the form CV or qumOpaTn5Wc-00629-00152046-00152405 VC as used for the Sumerian language the qumOpaTn5Wc-00630-00152406-00152603 cuneiform script was in principle qumOpaTn5Wc-00631-00152604-00152825 capable of distinguishing at least 16 qumOpaTn5Wc-00632-00152826-00153356 consonants transliterated as B D G G H K qumOpaTn5Wc-00633-00153357-00153866 L M and P R RS s T's as well as for qumOpaTn5Wc-00634-00153867-00154016 vowel qualities AE qumOpaTn5Wc-00635-00154017-00154394 I you the Akkadian language had no use qumOpaTn5Wc-00636-00154395-00154643 for G or R but needed to distinguish its qumOpaTn5Wc-00637-00154644-00154978 emphatic series qst adopting various qumOpaTn5Wc-00638-00154979-00155288 superfluous Sumerian signs for the qumOpaTn5Wc-00639-00155289-00155621 purpose a GQ e equals kin ku equals come qumOpaTn5Wc-00640-00155622-00155990 XI equals kin saw equals za say equals Z qumOpaTn5Wc-00641-00155991-00156341 tur equals dur etcetera Hittite as it qumOpaTn5Wc-00642-00156342-00156545 adopted the Akkadian cuneiform further qumOpaTn5Wc-00643-00156546-00156791 introduced signs such as Y 5 equals qumOpaTn5Wc-00644-00156792-00157206 Justin qumOpaTn5Wc-00645-00157207-00157699 topic sign inventories qumOpaTn5Wc-00646-00157700-00158086 topic the Sumerian cuneiform script had qumOpaTn5Wc-00647-00158087-00158323 on the order of 1000 distinct signs or qumOpaTn5Wc-00648-00158324-00158701 about 1500 if variants are included this qumOpaTn5Wc-00649-00158702-00158944 number was reduced to about 600 by the qumOpaTn5Wc-00650-00158945-00159196 24th century BC in the beginning of qumOpaTn5Wc-00651-00159197-00159511 Akkadian records not all Sumerian signs qumOpaTn5Wc-00652-00159512-00159729 are used in Akkadian texts and not all qumOpaTn5Wc-00653-00159730-00159963 Akkadian signs are used in Hittite qumOpaTn5Wc-00654-00159964-00160450 fockin Stein 1936 lists 939 signs used qumOpaTn5Wc-00655-00160451-00160704 in the earliest period later at 34th to qumOpaTn5Wc-00656-00160705-00161020 31st centuries with an emphasis on qumOpaTn5Wc-00657-00161021-00161134 Sumerian forms qumOpaTn5Wc-00658-00161135-00161541 daemul 1922 lists 870 signs used in the qumOpaTn5Wc-00659-00161542-00161782 early dynastic to period 28th century qumOpaTn5Wc-00660-00161783-00162088 Locke and for the early dynastic I qumOpaTn5Wc-00661-00162089-00162484 appear e'en 26th century SL qumOpaTn5Wc-00662-00162485-00162962 Rosengarten 1967 lists 468 signs used in qumOpaTn5Wc-00663-00162963-00163291 Sumerian priests Argonian lagash and qumOpaTn5Wc-00664-00163292-00163832 Mitter Meir a bzl 2006 list 480 Sumerian qumOpaTn5Wc-00665-00163833-00164041 forms written in isin Larsa and old qumOpaTn5Wc-00666-00164042-00164333 Babylonian times regarding Akkadian qumOpaTn5Wc-00667-00164334-00164531 forms the standard handbook for many qumOpaTn5Wc-00668-00164532-00165101 years was border abz 1981 with 598 signs qumOpaTn5Wc-00669-00165102-00165316 used in a Syrian Babylonian writing qumOpaTn5Wc-00670-00165317-00165729 recently superseded by Borger mes ZL qumOpaTn5Wc-00671-00165730-00166097 2004 with an expansion to 907 signs an qumOpaTn5Wc-00672-00166098-00166301 extension of their Sumerian readings and qumOpaTn5Wc-00673-00166302-00166591 a new numbering scheme signs used in qumOpaTn5Wc-00674-00166592-00166815 Hittite Kamiya form are listed by far qumOpaTn5Wc-00675-00166816-00167237 1922 Friedrich 1960 and the hzl Ruster qumOpaTn5Wc-00676-00167238-00167626 in no 1989 the hzl lists a total of qumOpaTn5Wc-00677-00167627-00167843 three hundred seventy five signs many qumOpaTn5Wc-00678-00167844-00168023 with variants for example twelve qumOpaTn5Wc-00679-00168024-00168726 variants are given for number 123 eg IR qumOpaTn5Wc-00680-00168727-00169152 epic numerals qumOpaTn5Wc-00681-00169153-00169509 topic the Sumerians used a numerical qumOpaTn5Wc-00682-00169510-00169842 system based on 110 and 60 the way of qumOpaTn5Wc-00683-00169843-00170028 writing a number like 70 would be the qumOpaTn5Wc-00684-00170029-00170238 sign for 60 and the sign for 10 right qumOpaTn5Wc-00685-00170239-00170511 after this way of counting is still used qumOpaTn5Wc-00686-00170512-00170742 today for measuring time as 60 seconds qumOpaTn5Wc-00687-00170743-00171306 per minute and 60 minutes per hour qumOpaTn5Wc-00688-00171307-00171739 Pech usage qumOpaTn5Wc-00689-00171740-00172096 topic Junia forum script was used in qumOpaTn5Wc-00690-00172097-00172390 many ways in ancient Mesopotamia it was qumOpaTn5Wc-00691-00172391-00172582 used to record laws like the Code of qumOpaTn5Wc-00692-00172583-00172870 Hammurabi it was also used for recording qumOpaTn5Wc-00693-00172871-00173098 maps compiling medical manuals and qumOpaTn5Wc-00694-00173099-00173284 documenting religious stories and qumOpaTn5Wc-00695-00173285-00173569 beliefs among other uses studies by qumOpaTn5Wc-00696-00173570-00173782 Assyria lodgest Slyke Klaus Wilkin qumOpaTn5Wc-00697-00173783-00173989 dominique sharpen suggest that Kamiya qumOpaTn5Wc-00698-00173990-00174181 form literacy was not reserved solely qumOpaTn5Wc-00699-00174182-00174376 for the elite but was common for average qumOpaTn5Wc-00700-00174377-00174729 citizens according to the oxford qumOpaTn5Wc-00701-00174730-00174949 handbook of cuneiform culture Kamiya qumOpaTn5Wc-00702-00174950-00175156 form script was used at a variety of qumOpaTn5Wc-00703-00175157-00175479 literacy levels average citizens needed qumOpaTn5Wc-00704-00175480-00175678 only a basic functional knowledge of qumOpaTn5Wc-00705-00175679-00175870 Kamiya form script to write personal qumOpaTn5Wc-00706-00175871-00176122 letters and business documents more qumOpaTn5Wc-00707-00176123-00176323 highly literate citizens put the script qumOpaTn5Wc-00708-00176324-00176541 to more technical use listing medicines qumOpaTn5Wc-00709-00176542-00176764 and diagnosis and writing mathematical qumOpaTn5Wc-00710-00176765-00177031 equations scholars held the highest qumOpaTn5Wc-00711-00177032-00177256 literacy level of cuneiform and mostly qumOpaTn5Wc-00712-00177257-00177487 focused on writing as a complex skill in qumOpaTn5Wc-00713-00177488-00177849 an art form qumOpaTn5Wc-00714-00177850-00178362 topic Unicode qumOpaTn5Wc-00715-00178363-00178766 topic as a version 8.0 the following qumOpaTn5Wc-00716-00178767-00178928 ranges are assigned to the Sumaira qumOpaTn5Wc-00717-00178929-00179160 Akkadian cuneiform script in the unicode qumOpaTn5Wc-00718-00179161-00179811 standard you +1 200 o u + 1 - 3 FF 922 qumOpaTn5Wc-00719-00179812-00180273 assigned characters Q Mia forum u + 1 to qumOpaTn5Wc-00720-00180274-00180708 400 u + 1 2 4 7 F 116 assigned qumOpaTn5Wc-00721-00180709-00180960 characters humne afore members and qumOpaTn5Wc-00722-00180961-00181586 punctuation u + 1 2 4 8 o u + 1 - 5 4 f qumOpaTn5Wc-00723-00181587-00181884 196 assigned characters early dynastic qumOpaTn5Wc-00724-00181885-00182193 jamia form the final proposal for qumOpaTn5Wc-00725-00182194-00182370 unicode encoding of the script was qumOpaTn5Wc-00726-00182371-00182583 submitted by 2 Kamiya form scholars qumOpaTn5Wc-00727-00182584-00182765 working with an experienced unicode qumOpaTn5Wc-00728-00182766-00183135 proposal writer in june 2004 the base qumOpaTn5Wc-00729-00183136-00183345 character inventory is derived from the qumOpaTn5Wc-00730-00183346-00183539 list of earth three signs compiled by qumOpaTn5Wc-00731-00183540-00183714 the Kamiya forum digital library qumOpaTn5Wc-00732-00183715-00183914 initiative of UCLA based on the qumOpaTn5Wc-00733-00183915-00184154 inventories of miguel civil rico Borger qumOpaTn5Wc-00734-00184155-00184490 2003 and robert englund rather than qumOpaTn5Wc-00735-00184491-00184686 opting for a direct ordering by glyph qumOpaTn5Wc-00736-00184687-00184881 shape and complexity according to the qumOpaTn5Wc-00737-00184882-00185073 numbering of an existing catalog the qumOpaTn5Wc-00738-00185074-00185277 unicode order of glyphs was based on the qumOpaTn5Wc-00739-00185278-00185498 latin alphabetic order of their last qumOpaTn5Wc-00740-00185499-00185799 Sumerian transliteration as a practical qumOpaTn5Wc-00741-00185800-00186266 approximation qumOpaTn5Wc-00742-00186267-00186506 pick list of major Kamiya form tablet qumOpaTn5Wc-00743-00186507-00186911 discoveries qumOpaTn5Wc-00744-00186912-00187307 topic qumOpaTn5Wc-00745-00187308-00187820 topic see also qumOpaTn5Wc-00746-00187821-00188213 topic qumOpaTn5Wc-00747-00188214-00188705 topic notes qumOpaTn5Wc-00748-00188706-00189098 topic qumOpaTn5Wc-00749-00189099-00189616 topic references qumOpaTn5Wc-00750-00189617-00190004 topic qumOpaTn5Wc-00751-00190005-00190540 topic bibliography qumOpaTn5Wc-00752-00190541-00190932 topic qumOpaTn5Wc-00753-00190933-00191473 topic external links qumOpaTn5Wc-00754-00191474-00191888 topic akkadian font for Windows and Mac qumOpaTn5Wc-00755-00191889-00192199 edsitement lesson plan cuneiform writing qumOpaTn5Wc-00756-00192200-00192445 system in ancient Mesopotamia emergence qumOpaTn5Wc-00757-00192446-00192748 and evolution the Sumerian invention of qumOpaTn5Wc-00758-00192749-00192931 writing qumOpaTn5Wc-00759-00192932-00193172 Babylonian cuneiform offering to the qumOpaTn5Wc-00760-00193173-00193489 king of Iraq epigraphy at curly qumOpaTn5Wc-00761-00193490-00193631 smarthistory qumOpaTn5Wc-00762-00193632-00193885 Kamiya form and the invention of writing qumOpaTn5Wc-00763-00193886-00194144 unicode fonts for ancient scripts and qumOpaTn5Wc-00764-00194145-00194366 Akkadian font for Ubuntu Linux based qumOpaTn5Wc-00765-00194367-00194674 operating system TTFN ancient fonts qumOpaTn5Wc-00766-00194675-00194987 unicode fonts for ORAC c fonts for qumOpaTn5Wc-00767-00194988-00195413 transliterating and displaying cuneiform qyJXwPiL-OQ-00000-00000008-00000463 cure my spring qyJXwPiL-OQ-00001-00000463-00001771 just a second qyJXwPiL-OQ-00002-00001772-00002039 [Music] qyJXwPiL-OQ-00003-00002039-00002487 so this piano is from jennison right qyJXwPiL-OQ-00004-00002488-00002815 okay no it's fine it's fine qyJXwPiL-OQ-00005-00002816-00003071 yeah i i find it like really good like qyJXwPiL-OQ-00006-00003072-00003447 elevator music qyJXwPiL-OQ-00007-00003447-00003631 yeah we're i think we're at full qyJXwPiL-OQ-00008-00003632-00004283 capacity for an elevator for virtual qyJXwPiL-OQ-00009-00004284-00004583 elevators qyJXwPiL-OQ-00010-00004584-00004863 okay can can anyone see why everyone's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00011-00004864-00004999 in my screen yep qyJXwPiL-OQ-00012-00005000-00005415 cool so um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00013-00005416-00005583 so before we start the session i have qyJXwPiL-OQ-00014-00005584-00005775 shared the links i'm really sorry that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00015-00005776-00005847 i'm sure it's so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00016-00005848-00006079 so like and i know that audrey you you qyJXwPiL-OQ-00017-00006080-00006231 watched everything before qyJXwPiL-OQ-00018-00006232-00006542 so so we're good yeah mostly everything qyJXwPiL-OQ-00019-00006543-00006614 but yes qyJXwPiL-OQ-00020-00006615-00007039 sure cool so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00021-00007040-00007406 i have updated some some links over here qyJXwPiL-OQ-00022-00007408-00007646 just in case anyone is interested in qyJXwPiL-OQ-00023-00007647-00007783 knowing more about qyJXwPiL-OQ-00024-00007784-00008095 um like the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00025-00008095-00008271 the readings that we have during the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00026-00008272-00008478 research and also case studies that we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00027-00008479-00008599 find interesting qyJXwPiL-OQ-00028-00008600-00008871 um you can also find those links on the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00029-00008872-00009119 mural board qyJXwPiL-OQ-00030-00009120-00009431 and also if anyone is interested qyJXwPiL-OQ-00031-00009432-00009735 in recommend us any further readings or qyJXwPiL-OQ-00032-00009736-00009935 case studies you can also feel free to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00033-00009936-00010039 just qyJXwPiL-OQ-00034-00010040-00010287 update it and it will be synced with qyJXwPiL-OQ-00035-00010288-00010383 their table qyJXwPiL-OQ-00036-00010384-00010646 um ultimately we're looking to open this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00037-00010647-00010799 database with everyone qyJXwPiL-OQ-00038-00010800-00011119 so we can keep continuing like piling up qyJXwPiL-OQ-00039-00011120-00011287 the knowledge qyJXwPiL-OQ-00040-00011288-00011663 and ensure what is the wider society so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00041-00011664-00012023 um the end of this session qyJXwPiL-OQ-00042-00012024-00012351 um is to develop a portfolio of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00043-00012352-00012559 experiments with audrey qyJXwPiL-OQ-00044-00012560-00012943 and try to imagine how a radical qyJXwPiL-OQ-00045-00012944-00013222 civic future can look like so imagine qyJXwPiL-OQ-00046-00013223-00013311 like qyJXwPiL-OQ-00047-00013312-00013622 what would be the experiments that we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00048-00013623-00013783 can conduct in taiwan qyJXwPiL-OQ-00049-00013784-00014015 within the next two years around qyJXwPiL-OQ-00050-00014016-00014119 democratic qyJXwPiL-OQ-00051-00014119-00014391 and social innovation i think this um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00052-00014391-00014615 this session is purely about qyJXwPiL-OQ-00053-00014616-00014951 like how can we uh imagine a radical qyJXwPiL-OQ-00054-00014952-00015119 future that is just qyJXwPiL-OQ-00055-00015119-00015422 and and sustainable qyJXwPiL-OQ-00056-00015423-00015647 and it will take around 60 minutes to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00057-00015647-00015966 run the session qyJXwPiL-OQ-00058-00015968-00016350 and we will also um host a few more qyJXwPiL-OQ-00059-00016351-00016647 sessions like today um in the future qyJXwPiL-OQ-00060-00016648-00016727 just to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00061-00016728-00017015 make sure that we incorporate the voices qyJXwPiL-OQ-00062-00017016-00017150 from different thinkers qyJXwPiL-OQ-00063-00017151-00017415 and also why there are severe society qyJXwPiL-OQ-00064-00017416-00017591 organizations qyJXwPiL-OQ-00065-00017592-00017894 on the ground qyJXwPiL-OQ-00066-00017895-00018143 and so the output of this session we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00067-00018144-00018327 will incorporate the output into qyJXwPiL-OQ-00068-00018328-00018591 an invitation to the weather society to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00069-00018592-00018663 talk about qyJXwPiL-OQ-00070-00018664-00018935 different ideas for the future and how qyJXwPiL-OQ-00071-00018936-00019143 we get there qyJXwPiL-OQ-00072-00019144-00019407 and so this way we can we can move qyJXwPiL-OQ-00073-00019408-00019479 towards qyJXwPiL-OQ-00074-00019480-00019814 um or beyond recovery and we knew qyJXwPiL-OQ-00075-00019815-00020135 towards the fair and just society qyJXwPiL-OQ-00076-00020136-00020463 so i have been because we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00077-00020464-00020727 there are so many people are are qyJXwPiL-OQ-00078-00020728-00020950 interested in joining today's session qyJXwPiL-OQ-00079-00020951-00021167 so we don't have much time to introduce qyJXwPiL-OQ-00080-00021168-00021375 each one but i still want to make sure qyJXwPiL-OQ-00081-00021376-00021455 that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00082-00021456-00021791 um like we we hear from everyone qyJXwPiL-OQ-00083-00021792-00022111 so just um for everyone qyJXwPiL-OQ-00084-00022112-00022483 i have put put put down the table we're qyJXwPiL-OQ-00085-00022484-00022639 reciting qyJXwPiL-OQ-00086-00022640-00022943 and also your name your role qyJXwPiL-OQ-00087-00022944-00023303 and why you're relevant to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00088-00023304-00023671 radical civics because of the work that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00089-00023672-00023783 you're doing qyJXwPiL-OQ-00090-00023784-00024103 and so feel free to just look at qyJXwPiL-OQ-00091-00024104-00024414 um different people in the room and can qyJXwPiL-OQ-00092-00024415-00024463 we just qyJXwPiL-OQ-00093-00024464-00024742 hear briefly from each of you just your qyJXwPiL-OQ-00094-00024743-00024791 name qyJXwPiL-OQ-00095-00024792-00025086 and your expectation um of today like qyJXwPiL-OQ-00096-00025087-00025263 what you want to get out of today qyJXwPiL-OQ-00097-00025264-00025399 just really briefly it doesn't need to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00098-00025400-00025687 be long so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00099-00025688-00026206 should we start from jonathan qyJXwPiL-OQ-00100-00026207-00026543 we can um wait can you hear me qyJXwPiL-OQ-00101-00026544-00026799 yes okay i was wondering if i was on qyJXwPiL-OQ-00102-00026800-00026902 mute qyJXwPiL-OQ-00103-00026904-00027239 um so you know i've qyJXwPiL-OQ-00104-00027239-00027343 for many years i've been really qyJXwPiL-OQ-00105-00027344-00027567 interested in the intersection of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00106-00027568-00027839 governance innovation and activism qyJXwPiL-OQ-00107-00027839-00028014 community organizing i've had a few qyJXwPiL-OQ-00108-00028016-00028199 experiences working with the city qyJXwPiL-OQ-00109-00028200-00028423 and government feeling like there was a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00110-00028424-00028695 lot of unnecessary divisions in between qyJXwPiL-OQ-00111-00028695-00028774 the two qyJXwPiL-OQ-00112-00028775-00029070 like some people were purposely keeping qyJXwPiL-OQ-00113-00029072-00029102 them qyJXwPiL-OQ-00114-00029104-00029343 separate rather than actively creating qyJXwPiL-OQ-00115-00029344-00029567 the bridges and creating new forms of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00116-00029568-00029758 related to each other and i qyJXwPiL-OQ-00117-00029760-00029911 in that sense i've been really inspired qyJXwPiL-OQ-00118-00029912-00030111 by the work of audrey qyJXwPiL-OQ-00119-00030112-00030343 um and so i'm really excited for us to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00120-00030344-00030487 um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00121-00030488-00030790 explore that further today um and i'm qyJXwPiL-OQ-00122-00030791-00031046 i'm helping fang to uh facilitate this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00123-00031047-00031102 session qyJXwPiL-OQ-00124-00031103-00031407 uh and i'm with dartmouth qyJXwPiL-OQ-00125-00031408-00031718 timon live from montreal thank you qyJXwPiL-OQ-00126-00031719-00031879 jonathan qyJXwPiL-OQ-00127-00031880-00032287 um you mentioned do you want to go next qyJXwPiL-OQ-00128-00032288-00032543 yeah i can go next hi i'm manchu i also qyJXwPiL-OQ-00129-00032544-00032702 work at dark matter labs and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00130-00032703-00033023 uh i hold qyJXwPiL-OQ-00131-00033024-00033367 strategic in digital design and uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00132-00033368-00033551 i've i've also been interested in this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00133-00033552-00033683 intersection of governance and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00134-00033684-00033807 participation and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00135-00033808-00034039 sort of bridging this gap of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00136-00034040-00034151 participation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00137-00034152-00034399 for real democracy that we see exists qyJXwPiL-OQ-00138-00034400-00034502 and i'm working qyJXwPiL-OQ-00139-00034503-00034711 on a project relating to contracting and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00140-00034712-00034839 how we could use qyJXwPiL-OQ-00141-00034840-00035087 the tools of contracting to further some qyJXwPiL-OQ-00142-00035088-00035231 of this uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00143-00035232-00035551 and yeah and i'm joining in from malmo qyJXwPiL-OQ-00144-00035552-00035718 sweden qyJXwPiL-OQ-00145-00035719-00036015 thank you you menshu i'll just follow my qyJXwPiL-OQ-00146-00036016-00036230 spring and see who is next qyJXwPiL-OQ-00147-00036231-00036687 so next is nick qyJXwPiL-OQ-00148-00036688-00036967 um hi everybody i'm nick um from shift qyJXwPiL-OQ-00149-00036968-00037118 and i'm um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00150-00037119-00037295 calling in from london and um yeah qyJXwPiL-OQ-00151-00037296-00037511 really excited to join you all qyJXwPiL-OQ-00152-00037512-00037927 see you all um so i think the most qyJXwPiL-OQ-00153-00037928-00038190 uh kind of resonant and relevant part of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00154-00038191-00038287 this project for me is qyJXwPiL-OQ-00155-00038288-00038502 as we you know we spend a lot of time qyJXwPiL-OQ-00156-00038503-00038623 working qyJXwPiL-OQ-00157-00038624-00038935 uh in communities on uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00158-00038936-00039255 in on say for example local food systems qyJXwPiL-OQ-00159-00039256-00039495 and find ourselves often very qyJXwPiL-OQ-00160-00039496-00039711 uncomfortably forced to subscribe qyJXwPiL-OQ-00161-00039712-00040030 to a kind of a government qyJXwPiL-OQ-00162-00040031-00040246 uh based model of kind of you know qyJXwPiL-OQ-00163-00040247-00040415 service provider service users qyJXwPiL-OQ-00164-00040416-00040839 or a very market kind of bound model of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00165-00040840-00041143 kind of um of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00166-00041144-00041358 which which is kind of rooted within qyJXwPiL-OQ-00167-00041359-00041502 some very unequal qyJXwPiL-OQ-00168-00041503-00041711 distribution of of of kind of the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00169-00041712-00041887 ability to navigate that market and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00170-00041888-00042143 and our work suffers and our spirit qyJXwPiL-OQ-00171-00042144-00042207 suffers qyJXwPiL-OQ-00172-00042208-00042455 and i think inhabiting the space that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00173-00042456-00042583 you'd be describing qyJXwPiL-OQ-00174-00042584-00042943 is something we hold we seek and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00175-00042944-00043118 it's very precious when we find it but qyJXwPiL-OQ-00176-00043119-00043246 it's very under resourced it's very qyJXwPiL-OQ-00177-00043247-00043446 difficult to inhabit for very long qyJXwPiL-OQ-00178-00043447-00043630 and this kind of civic space that isn't qyJXwPiL-OQ-00179-00043631-00043846 relying on or bound by either of those qyJXwPiL-OQ-00180-00043847-00044046 two models is something we just qyJXwPiL-OQ-00181-00044047-00044230 want to understand better inhabit more qyJXwPiL-OQ-00182-00044231-00044383 often um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00183-00044384-00044671 and uh and support others to do the same qyJXwPiL-OQ-00184-00044672-00044718 so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00185-00044719-00044967 um yeah it continue to be very qyJXwPiL-OQ-00186-00044968-00045087 interested in exploring that with you qyJXwPiL-OQ-00187-00045088-00045158 all qyJXwPiL-OQ-00188-00045159-00045615 thank you nick next we have kyo jung qyJXwPiL-OQ-00189-00045616-00045823 hi i'm john wayne i'm visual qyJXwPiL-OQ-00190-00045824-00045918 communication qyJXwPiL-OQ-00191-00045919-00046283 designer at that netherlands and i'm qyJXwPiL-OQ-00192-00046284-00046751 focusing um i will focusing on qyJXwPiL-OQ-00193-00046752-00047215 how to visualize to make people to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00194-00047216-00047527 to understand and use the framework qyJXwPiL-OQ-00195-00047528-00047974 as a tool better qyJXwPiL-OQ-00196-00047975-00048335 to um through the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00197-00048336-00048702 conversation of today yes qyJXwPiL-OQ-00198-00048703-00049071 thank you and next we have audrey qyJXwPiL-OQ-00199-00049072-00049286 oh hi i'm audrey thomas digital minister qyJXwPiL-OQ-00200-00049287-00049471 in charge of social innovation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00201-00049472-00049702 um i'm here today because foundry qyJXwPiL-OQ-00202-00049703-00049846 invited me too qyJXwPiL-OQ-00203-00049847-00050127 i'm open to any possibility i don't qyJXwPiL-OQ-00204-00050128-00050167 really qyJXwPiL-OQ-00205-00050168-00050343 want to get anything out of this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00206-00050344-00050527 conversation other than to get to know qyJXwPiL-OQ-00207-00050528-00050679 you all qyJXwPiL-OQ-00208-00050680-00051030 thank you audrey um next we have qyJXwPiL-OQ-00209-00051031-00051726 cassie qyJXwPiL-OQ-00210-00051727-00051982 hi cassie are you there i find cassie qyJXwPiL-OQ-00211-00051983-00052030 wrote qyJXwPiL-OQ-00212-00052032-00052263 in the chat uh she's sorry she won't be qyJXwPiL-OQ-00213-00052264-00052471 she's only able to type in the chat for qyJXwPiL-OQ-00214-00052472-00052503 now qyJXwPiL-OQ-00215-00052504-00052879 oh right now somewhere between cambridge qyJXwPiL-OQ-00216-00052879-00053199 and london cool thank you cassie qyJXwPiL-OQ-00217-00053200-00053559 next we have juhi qyJXwPiL-OQ-00218-00053560-00053911 hello also coming from qyJXwPiL-OQ-00219-00053912-00054247 dakmar lab located in seoul qyJXwPiL-OQ-00220-00054248-00054623 in south korea and my expectation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00221-00054624-00054935 is like first of all like interest qyJXwPiL-OQ-00222-00054936-00055191 in like how to bring agency to the civil qyJXwPiL-OQ-00223-00055191-00055287 society and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00224-00055288-00055687 let them build uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00225-00055688-00056126 their thriving community with the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00226-00056127-00056366 agency of governance that's like one qyJXwPiL-OQ-00227-00056367-00056503 domain perspective qyJXwPiL-OQ-00228-00056504-00056815 interest and uh also expectation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00229-00056816-00057103 and the other one is like how to make it qyJXwPiL-OQ-00230-00057104-00057159 open qyJXwPiL-OQ-00231-00057160-00057487 a provocation so that's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00232-00057488-00057799 that's me thank you thank you johy next qyJXwPiL-OQ-00233-00057800-00057982 we have garden qyJXwPiL-OQ-00234-00057983-00058247 hello uh i'm also from dark matter labs qyJXwPiL-OQ-00235-00058248-00058311 currently qyJXwPiL-OQ-00236-00058312-00058654 in delhi india and i've seen audrey qyJXwPiL-OQ-00237-00058655-00058887 give live dogs i've seen videos and i'm qyJXwPiL-OQ-00238-00058888-00058999 a big fan qyJXwPiL-OQ-00239-00059000-00059223 i mean i can go unless uh open that but qyJXwPiL-OQ-00240-00059224-00059399 like i think my expectation and what i'm qyJXwPiL-OQ-00241-00059400-00059526 thinking these days is most about qyJXwPiL-OQ-00242-00059527-00059735 ecological media and what i mean by that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00243-00059736-00059799 is like you know qyJXwPiL-OQ-00244-00059800-00059991 taking tech and seeing the invisible qyJXwPiL-OQ-00245-00059991-00060103 structures behind it qyJXwPiL-OQ-00246-00060104-00060415 be it the materiality or be it like the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00247-00060416-00060679 extractive model or be it like you know qyJXwPiL-OQ-00248-00060679-00060766 yeah qyJXwPiL-OQ-00249-00060767-00061111 how how do we reach more ecological tech qyJXwPiL-OQ-00250-00061112-00061335 thank you then and then next we have qyJXwPiL-OQ-00251-00061336-00061694 indy qyJXwPiL-OQ-00252-00061695-00062087 um that matters in london qyJXwPiL-OQ-00253-00062088-00062382 i'm i'm super excited to be in this room qyJXwPiL-OQ-00254-00062383-00062566 and i suppose qyJXwPiL-OQ-00255-00062567-00062871 my my aspiration is that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00256-00062872-00063247 all my obligations that i think we're qyJXwPiL-OQ-00257-00063248-00063615 at a moment where certainly in the west qyJXwPiL-OQ-00258-00063616-00063806 the monopoly of government and the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00259-00063807-00063959 monopoly and private sector are both qyJXwPiL-OQ-00260-00063960-00064094 problematic qyJXwPiL-OQ-00261-00064095-00064391 so even western complex now and actually qyJXwPiL-OQ-00262-00064391-00064582 there is a space for a new radical qyJXwPiL-OQ-00263-00064583-00064671 civics qyJXwPiL-OQ-00264-00064672-00064847 to actually create a new power qyJXwPiL-OQ-00265-00064848-00064982 relationship and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00266-00064983-00065271 which will actually make everyone better qyJXwPiL-OQ-00267-00065272-00065438 and i'm very interested i qyJXwPiL-OQ-00268-00065439-00065759 think bitcoin is a kind of bad example qyJXwPiL-OQ-00269-00065760-00066047 of a good civic when there might be a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00270-00066048-00066247 really interesting exploration qyJXwPiL-OQ-00271-00066248-00066447 of what that sort of distributed qyJXwPiL-OQ-00272-00066448-00066655 decentralized agency or production qyJXwPiL-OQ-00273-00066656-00066815 starts to create a new type of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00274-00066816-00066967 relationship and i think this can go qyJXwPiL-OQ-00275-00066968-00067103 from money production qyJXwPiL-OQ-00276-00067104-00067455 this can go from legals this can go to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00277-00067456-00067703 all sorts of what would registries and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00278-00067704-00067919 how do we create a new civic qyJXwPiL-OQ-00279-00067920-00068143 infrastructure society which creates the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00280-00068144-00068311 multiplicity of public and i'm qyJXwPiL-OQ-00281-00068312-00068519 i think this moment is right now and i'm qyJXwPiL-OQ-00282-00068520-00068679 super excited to be here qyJXwPiL-OQ-00283-00068680-00068847 to be able to discuss this and see what qyJXwPiL-OQ-00284-00068848-00068999 we can develop together qyJXwPiL-OQ-00285-00069000-00069143 out of that and i have kind of a bit of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00286-00069144-00069335 an ambition around this which is i think qyJXwPiL-OQ-00287-00069336-00069471 we should be building something qyJXwPiL-OQ-00288-00069472-00069799 quite radical in action around at a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00289-00069800-00069903 global level about qyJXwPiL-OQ-00290-00069904-00070143 building a fight to support this sort of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00291-00070144-00070271 radical capabilities qyJXwPiL-OQ-00292-00070272-00070487 around the world so anyway that's my qyJXwPiL-OQ-00293-00070488-00070679 ambition qyJXwPiL-OQ-00294-00070680-00070950 thank you indy and i'm from from that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00295-00070951-00071038 panel labs and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00296-00071039-00071279 also working with audrey i'm really qyJXwPiL-OQ-00297-00071280-00071447 happy to be here and hosting this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00298-00071448-00071582 conversation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00299-00071583-00071911 with jonathan and so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00300-00071912-00072294 we we are going to explore um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00301-00072295-00072550 uh different strengths and discussion qyJXwPiL-OQ-00302-00072551-00072647 and i will just qyJXwPiL-OQ-00303-00072648-00072967 quickly um relate to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00304-00072968-00073215 like the work that audrey audrey is qyJXwPiL-OQ-00305-00073216-00073303 doing qyJXwPiL-OQ-00306-00073304-00073647 um and how that intersects with qyJXwPiL-OQ-00307-00073648-00073903 the four different strengths of our qyJXwPiL-OQ-00308-00073904-00074150 inquiry qyJXwPiL-OQ-00309-00074151-00074406 so the first one is around power qyJXwPiL-OQ-00310-00074407-00074743 distribution and decision making qyJXwPiL-OQ-00311-00074744-00074967 and sovereignty is the foundation of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00312-00074968-00075119 emancipation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00313-00075120-00075471 i think andre audrey's work around qyJXwPiL-OQ-00314-00075472-00075711 the open source movement and open qyJXwPiL-OQ-00315-00075712-00075815 knowledge qyJXwPiL-OQ-00316-00075816-00076150 like monday and the moe dictionary and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00317-00076151-00076487 a lot of um other different qyJXwPiL-OQ-00318-00076488-00076679 basically order is quite handsome on a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00319-00076680-00076815 lot of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00320-00076816-00077206 civic civil tech projects qyJXwPiL-OQ-00321-00077207-00077543 and also another initiative qyJXwPiL-OQ-00322-00077544-00077943 related to what audrey is working on is qyJXwPiL-OQ-00323-00077944-00078294 the the open government mission qyJXwPiL-OQ-00324-00078295-00078606 that invites different stakeholders qyJXwPiL-OQ-00325-00078607-00078855 from all sectors to be able to discuss qyJXwPiL-OQ-00326-00078856-00079047 regulations and policy and come up with qyJXwPiL-OQ-00327-00079048-00079303 solutions together qyJXwPiL-OQ-00328-00079304-00079491 and i see that as an economic qyJXwPiL-OQ-00329-00079492-00079623 representation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00330-00079624-00079999 or how liquid democracy can be qyJXwPiL-OQ-00331-00080000-00080311 practiced through a mechanism qyJXwPiL-OQ-00332-00080312-00080615 for example like in taiwan practitioners qyJXwPiL-OQ-00333-00080616-00080959 or like online participators qyJXwPiL-OQ-00334-00080960-00081287 that join assemblies for example qyJXwPiL-OQ-00335-00081288-00081479 they they are able to represent qyJXwPiL-OQ-00336-00081480-00081655 themselves or delegate their qyJXwPiL-OQ-00337-00081656-00081791 representation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00338-00081792-00082111 to other people who they trust in order qyJXwPiL-OQ-00339-00082112-00082487 to kind of as a as opposed to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00340-00082488-00082838 um voting for representatives every few qyJXwPiL-OQ-00341-00082839-00082879 years qyJXwPiL-OQ-00342-00082880-00083062 and these are the only people who qyJXwPiL-OQ-00343-00083063-00083206 represent qyJXwPiL-OQ-00344-00083207-00083494 our voices i see that as a very dynamic qyJXwPiL-OQ-00345-00083495-00083543 way qyJXwPiL-OQ-00346-00083544-00083950 of practicing um democratic innovation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00347-00083951-00084199 so this is definitely the area that we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00348-00084200-00084335 are going to talk about qyJXwPiL-OQ-00349-00084336-00084623 first the second one is around radical qyJXwPiL-OQ-00350-00084624-00084838 civic space qyJXwPiL-OQ-00351-00084839-00085143 so the way maybe it's worth qyJXwPiL-OQ-00352-00085144-00085503 talking about the space at the moment qyJXwPiL-OQ-00353-00085504-00085823 so we can see like the old framework qyJXwPiL-OQ-00354-00085824-00086126 or the this framework from um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00355-00086127-00086359 the the doing triangle that we can see qyJXwPiL-OQ-00356-00086360-00086559 this is the different qyJXwPiL-OQ-00357-00086560-00086679 like the separate i wouldn't say qyJXwPiL-OQ-00358-00086680-00086918 separation but just differentiation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00359-00086919-00087247 between different sectors and the way qyJXwPiL-OQ-00360-00087248-00087487 if we want to use this framework to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00361-00087488-00087591 point out qyJXwPiL-OQ-00362-00087592-00087950 where the red civic space is um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00363-00087951-00088247 probably it would be like around here qyJXwPiL-OQ-00364-00088248-00088318 where qyJXwPiL-OQ-00365-00088319-00088711 um civic action is not something that um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00366-00088712-00089126 civil society only um has to tap in qyJXwPiL-OQ-00367-00089127-00089447 or or certain things like state qyJXwPiL-OQ-00368-00089448-00089694 doesn't only have the responsibility to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00369-00089695-00089823 take care of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00370-00089824-00090103 people's welfare and providing public qyJXwPiL-OQ-00371-00090104-00090175 services qyJXwPiL-OQ-00372-00090176-00090503 like all those things um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00373-00090504-00090687 if all all the different things are qyJXwPiL-OQ-00374-00090688-00090911 public interest focused qyJXwPiL-OQ-00375-00090912-00091231 there's a space for that that radical qyJXwPiL-OQ-00376-00091232-00091287 civic qyJXwPiL-OQ-00377-00091288-00091631 um actions and then qyJXwPiL-OQ-00378-00091632-00091903 um that is a space where the people can qyJXwPiL-OQ-00379-00091904-00092103 make society together qyJXwPiL-OQ-00380-00092104-00092482 so that's the the how we see qyJXwPiL-OQ-00381-00092483-00092726 um the meaning of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00382-00092727-00093071 radical civic space so within this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00383-00093072-00093374 uh strands of inquiry as audrey in the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00384-00093375-00093479 beginning mentioned qyJXwPiL-OQ-00385-00093480-00093871 that uh the 1922 sms qyJXwPiL-OQ-00386-00093872-00094111 is a very good example probably i will qyJXwPiL-OQ-00387-00094112-00094231 just keep qyJXwPiL-OQ-00388-00094232-00094455 the current opportunity for audrey to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00389-00094456-00094591 mention about that because i find this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00390-00094592-00094711 is very interesting qyJXwPiL-OQ-00391-00094712-00094967 um because in the uk we also have like qyJXwPiL-OQ-00392-00094968-00095150 contact tracking like if you go to a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00393-00095151-00095262 shop you just scan qyJXwPiL-OQ-00394-00095263-00095415 you download an app and then you scan qyJXwPiL-OQ-00395-00095416-00095655 then you then qyJXwPiL-OQ-00396-00095656-00095999 you will be you'll know um where you are qyJXwPiL-OQ-00397-00096000-00096126 and then the systems will qyJXwPiL-OQ-00398-00096127-00096511 will track um everyone's movements qyJXwPiL-OQ-00399-00096512-00096862 for perfect um like disease control qyJXwPiL-OQ-00400-00096863-00097182 purposes um but what i found interesting qyJXwPiL-OQ-00401-00097183-00097494 this example is that um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00402-00097495-00097855 the same the same initiative happened qyJXwPiL-OQ-00403-00097856-00098206 from the perspective of civil society qyJXwPiL-OQ-00404-00098207-00098455 and not only civil society but also how qyJXwPiL-OQ-00405-00098456-00098559 government qyJXwPiL-OQ-00406-00098560-00098847 and private sectors are working together qyJXwPiL-OQ-00407-00098848-00098967 to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00408-00098968-00099271 realize this space for public goods and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00409-00099272-00099359 instead of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00410-00099360-00099671 saying like contact tracing is qyJXwPiL-OQ-00411-00099672-00099838 the purely responsibility of the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00412-00099839-00099999 government or qyJXwPiL-OQ-00413-00100000-00100223 different sectors so audrey do you want qyJXwPiL-OQ-00414-00100224-00100550 to just jump in and briefly talk about qyJXwPiL-OQ-00415-00100551-00100743 talk about this yeah which is very good qyJXwPiL-OQ-00416-00100744-00100967 example of sure qyJXwPiL-OQ-00417-00100968-00101406 well the unifying value of the 192 sms qyJXwPiL-OQ-00418-00101407-00101431 is qyJXwPiL-OQ-00419-00101432-00101767 inclusion uh we specifically want to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00420-00101768-00102038 uh take care of people with feature qyJXwPiL-OQ-00421-00102039-00102094 phones qyJXwPiL-OQ-00422-00102095-00102406 who could not install an app for qr code qyJXwPiL-OQ-00423-00102407-00102671 scanning we specifically want to include qyJXwPiL-OQ-00424-00102672-00102734 people qyJXwPiL-OQ-00425-00102735-00102975 who do not have uh for example the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00426-00102976-00103078 capacity qyJXwPiL-OQ-00427-00103079-00103327 uh to use a browser or understand how a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00428-00103328-00103599 browser works and so on we also want to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00429-00103600-00103806 take care of people who think the line qyJXwPiL-OQ-00430-00103807-00104039 which is equivalent of whatsapp qyJXwPiL-OQ-00431-00104040-00104239 is the the only thing on the phone that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00432-00104240-00104510 they are comfortable with and so on so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00433-00104511-00104718 the design brief is essentially qyJXwPiL-OQ-00434-00104719-00104895 co-created by qyJXwPiL-OQ-00435-00104896-00105183 the people in the xero community over qyJXwPiL-OQ-00436-00105183-00105231 just qyJXwPiL-OQ-00437-00105232-00105551 around 24 hours a weekend qyJXwPiL-OQ-00438-00105552-00105863 and then we converged on the sms based qyJXwPiL-OQ-00439-00105864-00106199 status and then in the name of inclusion qyJXwPiL-OQ-00440-00106200-00106383 and name of social norm qyJXwPiL-OQ-00441-00106383-00106639 then on monday i worked with the five qyJXwPiL-OQ-00442-00106640-00106758 telecom carriers qyJXwPiL-OQ-00443-00106759-00107015 and convinced them to waive the fees qyJXwPiL-OQ-00444-00107016-00107310 that sent to the 192 to sms qyJXwPiL-OQ-00445-00107311-00107551 and then of course we then work with the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00446-00107552-00107663 private sector qyJXwPiL-OQ-00447-00107664-00107878 to make sure the five telecoms which are qyJXwPiL-OQ-00448-00107879-00108007 in the private sector qyJXwPiL-OQ-00449-00108008-00108310 are able to delete the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00450-00108311-00108631 sms after 28 days and make sure that the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00451-00108632-00108854 location code is randomized qyJXwPiL-OQ-00452-00108855-00109127 making sure that the privacy budget is qyJXwPiL-OQ-00453-00109128-00109207 well spent qyJXwPiL-OQ-00454-00109208-00109447 through multi-party computation and so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00455-00109448-00109766 on and the company that built the emask qyJXwPiL-OQ-00456-00109767-00109966 system a year ago from us rationing and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00457-00109967-00110190 pre-ordering basically completed the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00458-00110191-00110254 system qyJXwPiL-OQ-00459-00110255-00110439 and rolled it out and worked with all qyJXwPiL-OQ-00460-00110440-00110607 the small private qyJXwPiL-OQ-00461-00110608-00110815 sector vendors including nine market qyJXwPiL-OQ-00462-00110816-00110927 stunts and so on qyJXwPiL-OQ-00463-00110928-00111247 in another 24 hours so uh in three short qyJXwPiL-OQ-00464-00111248-00111295 days qyJXwPiL-OQ-00465-00111296-00111551 uh basically the first day the social qyJXwPiL-OQ-00466-00111552-00111695 sector sets the norm qyJXwPiL-OQ-00467-00111696-00111902 the second day the public sector qyJXwPiL-OQ-00468-00111903-00112039 amplifies the norm qyJXwPiL-OQ-00469-00112040-00112247 uh and then the third day the private qyJXwPiL-OQ-00470-00112248-00112447 sector implements the norm and then we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00471-00112448-00112495 had qyJXwPiL-OQ-00472-00112496-00112854 a almost perfectly working sms checking qyJXwPiL-OQ-00473-00112855-00112975 system the only qyJXwPiL-OQ-00474-00112976-00113271 shortcoming is the roaming service qyJXwPiL-OQ-00475-00113272-00113463 people people who use telecoms other qyJXwPiL-OQ-00476-00113464-00113623 than the domestic ones qyJXwPiL-OQ-00477-00113624-00113854 but we're fixing that tomorrow with an qyJXwPiL-OQ-00478-00113855-00114166 app rollout by taipei municipality qyJXwPiL-OQ-00479-00114167-00114502 thank you audrey that's really amazing qyJXwPiL-OQ-00480-00114503-00114790 the last uh sorry there's there are two qyJXwPiL-OQ-00481-00114791-00114871 more qyJXwPiL-OQ-00482-00114872-00115207 um the third strands of inquiries around qyJXwPiL-OQ-00483-00115208-00115478 civic law or soft law we're still trying qyJXwPiL-OQ-00484-00115479-00115702 to find the best language for that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00485-00115703-00115990 which is essentially like talking about qyJXwPiL-OQ-00486-00115991-00116134 laws or stories qyJXwPiL-OQ-00487-00116135-00116351 they're based on our knowledge and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00488-00116352-00116534 behavior and customs qyJXwPiL-OQ-00489-00116535-00116910 and if those behavior are the foundation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00490-00116911-00117302 of um like what constitute law and how qyJXwPiL-OQ-00491-00117303-00117343 we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00492-00117344-00117599 organize together then could we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00493-00117600-00117766 intervene in that space qyJXwPiL-OQ-00494-00117767-00118078 to fight the way that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00495-00118079-00118471 we can make law more eligible qyJXwPiL-OQ-00496-00118472-00118766 and also more religious the process of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00497-00118767-00118854 making law qyJXwPiL-OQ-00498-00118855-00119231 can be more legitimate and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00499-00119232-00119566 and also we can enforce those flow um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00500-00119567-00119902 through peer-to-peer feedback and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00501-00119903-00120175 and this is super relevant to also qyJXwPiL-OQ-00502-00120176-00120263 audrey's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00503-00120264-00120575 contribution in vita one another project qyJXwPiL-OQ-00504-00120576-00120710 around participate qyJXwPiL-OQ-00505-00120711-00120975 versus participatory law making so we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00506-00120976-00121119 will tap into this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00507-00121120-00121439 um later on and last one qyJXwPiL-OQ-00508-00121440-00121647 um not sure if we have time to go go qyJXwPiL-OQ-00509-00121648-00121934 into this but essentially this is about qyJXwPiL-OQ-00510-00121935-00122190 the funding mechanisms and how we value qyJXwPiL-OQ-00511-00122191-00122271 things qyJXwPiL-OQ-00512-00122272-00122590 in the space in order to see qyJXwPiL-OQ-00513-00122591-00122831 retro civics happening in a more qyJXwPiL-OQ-00514-00122832-00122966 financially sustainable and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00515-00122967-00123071 environmentally qyJXwPiL-OQ-00516-00123072-00123623 sustainable way um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00517-00123624-00123999 so just to quick wrap up um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00518-00124000-00124343 what radical civic is i think we want to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00519-00124344-00124695 um push further the idea of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00520-00124696-00125054 what severe society qyJXwPiL-OQ-00521-00125055-00125414 really means and how people can be qyJXwPiL-OQ-00522-00125415-00125758 participating having the agency autonomy qyJXwPiL-OQ-00523-00125759-00126078 to make the society no matter who they qyJXwPiL-OQ-00524-00126079-00126295 are from what what sector qyJXwPiL-OQ-00525-00126296-00126543 so it's definitely not exclusive this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00526-00126544-00126678 exclusive domain qyJXwPiL-OQ-00527-00126679-00126910 but quite opposite how we can all work qyJXwPiL-OQ-00528-00126911-00126983 together qyJXwPiL-OQ-00529-00126983-00127271 even we have different backgrounds and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00530-00127272-00127639 so the characteristic of red co-civic is qyJXwPiL-OQ-00531-00127640-00128023 really public interest centered qyJXwPiL-OQ-00532-00128024-00128431 social goal centered and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00533-00128432-00128686 and just to mention that the work is qyJXwPiL-OQ-00534-00128688-00128790 supported by qyJXwPiL-OQ-00535-00128791-00129110 the emerging futures found qyJXwPiL-OQ-00536-00129111-00129414 and we're collaborating on this project qyJXwPiL-OQ-00537-00129415-00129910 with shift qyJXwPiL-OQ-00538-00129911-00130271 so before we go into the future qyJXwPiL-OQ-00539-00130272-00130527 imagining session audrey do you qyJXwPiL-OQ-00540-00130528-00130847 would you like want to say anything or qyJXwPiL-OQ-00541-00130848-00131223 is it anything come come out of your qyJXwPiL-OQ-00542-00131224-00131302 mind qyJXwPiL-OQ-00543-00131303-00131631 when you go through the provocation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00544-00131632-00131902 um and finally uh i'll just do a little qyJXwPiL-OQ-00545-00131903-00132023 time checking here qyJXwPiL-OQ-00546-00132024-00132231 um ideally how much time should we have qyJXwPiL-OQ-00547-00132232-00132407 for this exercise before the collective qyJXwPiL-OQ-00548-00132408-00132566 imagining session qyJXwPiL-OQ-00549-00132567-00132878 uh probably five five minutes okay qyJXwPiL-OQ-00550-00132879-00133231 sounds good okay um so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00551-00133232-00133639 two things um the first thing is that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00552-00133640-00133935 the way that you use the venn diagram uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00553-00133936-00134054 shows that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00554-00134055-00134375 it's a kind of overlapping space between qyJXwPiL-OQ-00555-00134376-00134583 the three sectors qyJXwPiL-OQ-00556-00134584-00134927 but i i have in mind a a more kind of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00557-00134928-00135319 trans cultural or rather qyJXwPiL-OQ-00558-00135320-00135623 we say cross-sectoral trans-cultural qyJXwPiL-OQ-00559-00135624-00135854 because it's not just about finding the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00560-00135855-00135935 overlap qyJXwPiL-OQ-00561-00135936-00136190 between the three sectors is about the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00562-00136191-00136383 three sectors qyJXwPiL-OQ-00563-00136384-00136599 stops being something that people qyJXwPiL-OQ-00564-00136600-00136759 identify with qyJXwPiL-OQ-00565-00136760-00137063 that is to say i'm not saying that i qyJXwPiL-OQ-00566-00137064-00137399 am a public servant i say i have qyJXwPiL-OQ-00567-00137400-00137751 the experience uh to work with qyJXwPiL-OQ-00568-00137752-00137935 the government not for the government qyJXwPiL-OQ-00569-00137936-00138127 right uh instead of saying i qyJXwPiL-OQ-00570-00138128-00138463 am a business person i say i qyJXwPiL-OQ-00571-00138464-00138727 i have the experience of working with qyJXwPiL-OQ-00572-00138728-00138847 the market qyJXwPiL-OQ-00573-00138848-00139143 and so on this is uh essential because qyJXwPiL-OQ-00574-00139144-00139351 that decouples our identity qyJXwPiL-OQ-00575-00139352-00139654 from our sectoral experiences qyJXwPiL-OQ-00576-00139655-00139959 and i think the venn diagram qyJXwPiL-OQ-00577-00139960-00140223 sometimes would seem like that one qyJXwPiL-OQ-00578-00140224-00140399 person simply has qyJXwPiL-OQ-00579-00140400-00140711 multiple identities or qyJXwPiL-OQ-00580-00140712-00140966 is a slash as we say here in taiwan and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00581-00140967-00141039 so on qyJXwPiL-OQ-00582-00141040-00141247 but but i think that is still caught in qyJXwPiL-OQ-00583-00141248-00141575 the identity experience qyJXwPiL-OQ-00584-00141576-00141807 kind of confusion that we have qyJXwPiL-OQ-00585-00141808-00141887 experience qyJXwPiL-OQ-00586-00141888-00142126 in across sectors it's not that we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00587-00142127-00142326 identify with multiple sectors that's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00588-00142327-00142423 the first qyJXwPiL-OQ-00589-00142424-00142711 uh idea that that came to my mind the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00590-00142712-00142839 the second qyJXwPiL-OQ-00591-00142840-00143166 idea is around the um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00592-00143167-00143478 there's a specific um metaphor right qyJXwPiL-OQ-00593-00143479-00143663 that you use that the root qyJXwPiL-OQ-00594-00143664-00143983 um so like being radical is going to the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00595-00143984-00144071 root qyJXwPiL-OQ-00596-00144072-00144511 of things um and that inspired me to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00597-00144512-00144790 think about uh because i i also say qyJXwPiL-OQ-00598-00144791-00145039 radical transparency right i'm also qyJXwPiL-OQ-00599-00145040-00145319 board member of radical exchange so so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00600-00145320-00145390 what really qyJXwPiL-OQ-00601-00145391-00145743 is the the root here and um i think qyJXwPiL-OQ-00602-00145744-00146071 one of the values that's shared qyJXwPiL-OQ-00603-00146072-00146454 across all sectors um is as i mentioned qyJXwPiL-OQ-00604-00146455-00146583 is this idea of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00605-00146584-00146919 inclusive of the future and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00606-00146920-00147239 that is to say no matter which sectoral qyJXwPiL-OQ-00607-00147240-00147599 advances are by evolution qyJXwPiL-OQ-00608-00147600-00147919 almost the kind of sectoral exchange qyJXwPiL-OQ-00609-00147920-00148111 modes that we see qyJXwPiL-OQ-00610-00148112-00148423 are able we're able to include qyJXwPiL-OQ-00611-00148424-00148702 the future at future generations uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00612-00148703-00148911 because the civilizations that don't qyJXwPiL-OQ-00613-00148912-00149214 don't exist for us to see so so there qyJXwPiL-OQ-00614-00149215-00149343 are some routes uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00615-00149344-00149614 in those coaches that at least says uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00616-00149615-00149863 we don't foreclose the possibilities of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00617-00149864-00150166 our descendants we need to be at least a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00618-00150167-00150239 good enough qyJXwPiL-OQ-00619-00150240-00150519 ancestor and and i believe that is one qyJXwPiL-OQ-00620-00150520-00150654 of the the true roots qyJXwPiL-OQ-00621-00150655-00150966 that could uh not unify by rather qyJXwPiL-OQ-00622-00150967-00151223 a bridge across the three sectors i hope qyJXwPiL-OQ-00623-00151224-00151447 that's five minutes qyJXwPiL-OQ-00624-00151448-00151614 yeah that's definitely feel free to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00625-00151615-00151775 share more sorry i just have qyJXwPiL-OQ-00626-00151776-00152014 a time kept on that but that's right qyJXwPiL-OQ-00627-00152015-00152151 yeah qyJXwPiL-OQ-00628-00152152-00152543 yeah or just say two things to that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00629-00152544-00152854 so when i looked at the crossover i i qyJXwPiL-OQ-00630-00152855-00153014 was almost feeling the radical civics qyJXwPiL-OQ-00631-00153015-00153199 needs to be the base qyJXwPiL-OQ-00632-00153200-00153423 for those three sectors rather than qyJXwPiL-OQ-00633-00153424-00153535 being the crossover qyJXwPiL-OQ-00634-00153536-00153887 it's almost the foundation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00635-00153888-00154271 civil society of the base a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00636-00154272-00154463 so that's one the second thing was a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00637-00154464-00154614 really literal perspective here on the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00638-00154615-00154687 civic qyJXwPiL-OQ-00639-00154688-00154887 the civic is not just in space but in qyJXwPiL-OQ-00640-00154888-00154999 time qyJXwPiL-OQ-00641-00155000-00155183 so the kind of thesis of behaving in qyJXwPiL-OQ-00642-00155184-00155351 this civic behavior qyJXwPiL-OQ-00643-00155352-00155566 should not just be the people now but qyJXwPiL-OQ-00644-00155567-00155766 future generations qyJXwPiL-OQ-00645-00155767-00155975 so i wonder whether we can expand our qyJXwPiL-OQ-00646-00155976-00156087 thesis of civics qyJXwPiL-OQ-00647-00156088-00156551 basically i think it's really powerful qyJXwPiL-OQ-00648-00156552-00156839 that's right it shared space time not qyJXwPiL-OQ-00649-00156840-00157502 just asia space yeah qyJXwPiL-OQ-00650-00157503-00157983 thank you indeed qyJXwPiL-OQ-00651-00157984-00158190 anything else audrey is there any qyJXwPiL-OQ-00652-00158191-00158302 questions when you qyJXwPiL-OQ-00653-00158303-00158614 when you read um the provocation or qyJXwPiL-OQ-00654-00158615-00158887 is there anything you would like to add qyJXwPiL-OQ-00655-00158888-00158935 um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00656-00158936-00159231 if there is anything that we're missing qyJXwPiL-OQ-00657-00159232-00159335 there's plenty qyJXwPiL-OQ-00658-00159336-00159743 plenty of um edits that i would like qyJXwPiL-OQ-00659-00159744-00160087 to to make but most of them would be um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00660-00160088-00160375 just edits right i think the core ideas qyJXwPiL-OQ-00661-00160376-00160478 are sound qyJXwPiL-OQ-00662-00160479-00160766 um of course i would prefer if there's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00663-00160767-00160807 uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00664-00160808-00161083 less words that connects the ideas qyJXwPiL-OQ-00665-00161084-00161199 together qyJXwPiL-OQ-00666-00161200-00161502 because there's like full quotations uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00667-00161503-00161614 to illustrate qyJXwPiL-OQ-00668-00161615-00161839 simple ideas so some outlining would qyJXwPiL-OQ-00669-00161840-00162007 help but i don't think qyJXwPiL-OQ-00670-00162008-00162263 uh there's anything that strikes me as qyJXwPiL-OQ-00671-00162264-00162483 particularly missing qyJXwPiL-OQ-00672-00162484-00163007 um thank you audrey qyJXwPiL-OQ-00673-00163008-00163271 i think we are still um developing the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00674-00163272-00163375 hypothesis qyJXwPiL-OQ-00675-00163376-00163671 and clear our thinking as we go so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00676-00163672-00163883 definitely there is a lot of room qyJXwPiL-OQ-00677-00163884-00164271 um to be improved and we're hoping to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00678-00164272-00164583 continue to develop that see that as a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00679-00164584-00164959 like a collaborative note qyJXwPiL-OQ-00680-00164960-00165271 across many different people and and to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00681-00165272-00165390 improve that as qyJXwPiL-OQ-00682-00165391-00165583 it goes so definitely it's not a static qyJXwPiL-OQ-00683-00165584-00165807 thing and we're looking to improve it qyJXwPiL-OQ-00684-00165808-00166031 over time qyJXwPiL-OQ-00685-00166032-00166351 so last um the last section qyJXwPiL-OQ-00686-00166352-00166702 is about is the most exciting one qyJXwPiL-OQ-00687-00166703-00166983 which is about imagining the future qyJXwPiL-OQ-00688-00166984-00167119 experiments qyJXwPiL-OQ-00689-00167120-00167526 um we have we have um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00690-00167527-00167895 provide some examples like this one qyJXwPiL-OQ-00691-00167896-00168135 i came i came across this when i was qyJXwPiL-OQ-00692-00168136-00168254 walking on the street qyJXwPiL-OQ-00693-00168255-00168638 during the weekend and also tell me if qyJXwPiL-OQ-00694-00168639-00168951 it's like ridiculous or um there's a lot qyJXwPiL-OQ-00695-00168952-00169063 of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00696-00169064-00169343 room that we can build on top of that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00697-00169344-00169487 imagining that future qyJXwPiL-OQ-00698-00169488-00169743 so i will i will just to give an example qyJXwPiL-OQ-00699-00169744-00169807 of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00700-00169808-00170175 like different types of features that we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00701-00170176-00170214 can qyJXwPiL-OQ-00702-00170215-00170551 we can see and cooperate together so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00703-00170552-00171038 one example i thought about that could qyJXwPiL-OQ-00704-00171039-00171063 be qyJXwPiL-OQ-00705-00171064-00171414 expect experiment on the ground is that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00706-00171415-00171726 imagine if everything is on cell and has qyJXwPiL-OQ-00707-00171727-00171838 sovereignty qyJXwPiL-OQ-00708-00171839-00172175 so like a land that owns itself qyJXwPiL-OQ-00709-00172176-00172438 instead of paying tax like currently we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00710-00172439-00172614 pay tax and then the tax will be qyJXwPiL-OQ-00711-00172615-00172759 allocated to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00712-00172760-00173175 like maintain or invest in qyJXwPiL-OQ-00713-00173176-00173511 public goods and instead of doing qyJXwPiL-OQ-00714-00173512-00173887 doing that we pay for civic goods qyJXwPiL-OQ-00715-00173888-00174175 through a subscription fee or we could qyJXwPiL-OQ-00716-00174176-00174390 pay for the use of civic goods like pay qyJXwPiL-OQ-00717-00174391-00174614 for use of a part for example qyJXwPiL-OQ-00718-00174615-00174999 and we can we can also crowdfund qyJXwPiL-OQ-00719-00175000-00175214 investment through mechanisms like qyJXwPiL-OQ-00720-00175215-00175359 quaternary funding qyJXwPiL-OQ-00721-00175360-00175551 or conviction voting to make certain qyJXwPiL-OQ-00722-00175552-00175814 decisions around where money goes qyJXwPiL-OQ-00723-00175815-00176078 and to use that as a way to vote for the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00724-00176079-00176254 future we like to see so instead of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00725-00176255-00176366 having qyJXwPiL-OQ-00726-00176367-00176687 a vote or or one or two votes every four qyJXwPiL-OQ-00727-00176688-00176775 to five years qyJXwPiL-OQ-00728-00176776-00177078 to elect representatives who will decide qyJXwPiL-OQ-00729-00177079-00177238 on so many things for us qyJXwPiL-OQ-00730-00177239-00177551 basically we have the vote qyJXwPiL-OQ-00731-00177552-00177935 um like one million or more than that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00732-00177936-00178271 um in one year to vote for qyJXwPiL-OQ-00733-00178272-00178502 the future we want to invest and we want qyJXwPiL-OQ-00734-00178503-00178614 to see qyJXwPiL-OQ-00735-00178615-00178887 so everything is self-sovereign and we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00736-00178888-00178926 pay qyJXwPiL-OQ-00737-00178927-00179175 and invest in the future we want to see qyJXwPiL-OQ-00738-00179176-00179343 so if i want to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00739-00179344-00179647 if i want more community allotments in qyJXwPiL-OQ-00740-00179648-00179775 my community qyJXwPiL-OQ-00741-00179776-00180087 i could just like crowdfund that or pay qyJXwPiL-OQ-00742-00180088-00180263 for the maintenance of that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00743-00180264-00180566 the community garden doesn't own by qyJXwPiL-OQ-00744-00180567-00180966 the state or it doesn't owned by qyJXwPiL-OQ-00745-00180967-00181302 the rich but it owns itself so there's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00746-00181303-00181447 no issue of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00747-00181448-00181854 like sometimes public goods um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00748-00181855-00182119 or like forest will be sell by the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00749-00182120-00182423 government to a developer in order to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00750-00182424-00182743 like build um house and that is not qyJXwPiL-OQ-00751-00182744-00182831 really public qyJXwPiL-OQ-00752-00182832-00183143 um interest focus qyJXwPiL-OQ-00753-00183144-00183487 and if the serious qyJXwPiL-OQ-00754-00183488-00183711 society is not strong enough to fight qyJXwPiL-OQ-00755-00183712-00183814 back then qyJXwPiL-OQ-00756-00183815-00184071 probably the tragedy will happen in that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00757-00184072-00184151 way qyJXwPiL-OQ-00758-00184152-00184543 so this is just an example of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00759-00184544-00184935 how a future can look like by passing qyJXwPiL-OQ-00760-00184936-00185271 existing infrastructure and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00761-00185272-00185687 giving the power to different people qyJXwPiL-OQ-00762-00185688-00185990 and to to the people actually qyJXwPiL-OQ-00763-00185991-00186214 and when i when i thought about this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00764-00186215-00186335 exam uh this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00765-00186336-00186678 experiment i so so the team qyJXwPiL-OQ-00766-00186679-00187031 have created a framework um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00767-00187032-00187407 to to organize the different strains of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00768-00187408-00187719 inquiries um as different qyJXwPiL-OQ-00769-00187720-00188111 like different stacks over here qyJXwPiL-OQ-00770-00188112-00188319 so the one is the first one is round qyJXwPiL-OQ-00771-00188320-00188423 civic law and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00772-00188424-00188775 here you can see um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00773-00188776-00189038 um what we want to achieve like qyJXwPiL-OQ-00774-00189039-00189159 different areas qyJXwPiL-OQ-00775-00189160-00189559 of intervention that we can go forward qyJXwPiL-OQ-00776-00189560-00189783 and then you can see the small dots are qyJXwPiL-OQ-00777-00189784-00189990 like elements of experiments qyJXwPiL-OQ-00778-00189991-00190207 so for example peer-to-peer feedback can qyJXwPiL-OQ-00779-00190208-00190407 be one specific qyJXwPiL-OQ-00780-00190408-00190831 element of a wider qyJXwPiL-OQ-00781-00190832-00191102 wire experiment so here you can see i qyJXwPiL-OQ-00782-00191103-00191199 pick up qyJXwPiL-OQ-00783-00191200-00191526 all different elements qyJXwPiL-OQ-00784-00191527-00191926 across different stacks that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00785-00191927-00192311 inspire me to think about um this qyJXwPiL-OQ-00786-00192312-00192671 future scenario so the the framework on qyJXwPiL-OQ-00787-00192672-00192711 the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00788-00192712-00193087 left is just almost like a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00789-00193088-00193423 tool or inspiration that help us to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00790-00193424-00193823 imagine the future in a more radical way qyJXwPiL-OQ-00791-00193824-00194126 instead of starting from a blank qyJXwPiL-OQ-00792-00194127-00194431 page qyJXwPiL-OQ-00793-00194432-00194783 so she will try she will try so we also qyJXwPiL-OQ-00794-00194784-00194895 um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00795-00194896-00195135 organize a few questions here as a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00796-00195136-00195238 prompt qyJXwPiL-OQ-00797-00195239-00195631 to think about um different qyJXwPiL-OQ-00798-00195632-00195999 different possibilities of the future qyJXwPiL-OQ-00799-00196000-00196319 so if we can start from uh the first qyJXwPiL-OQ-00800-00196320-00196423 round of inquiry qyJXwPiL-OQ-00801-00196424-00196638 and essentially the idea is and we will qyJXwPiL-OQ-00802-00196639-00196847 go through some of the questions qyJXwPiL-OQ-00803-00196848-00197247 uh we have um here's basically this is qyJXwPiL-OQ-00804-00197248-00197414 like the guideline of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00805-00197415-00197711 our conversation but for this session as qyJXwPiL-OQ-00806-00197712-00197823 we go through them qyJXwPiL-OQ-00807-00197824-00198175 we will the the we will build qyJXwPiL-OQ-00808-00198176-00198454 the different experiments for the future qyJXwPiL-OQ-00809-00198455-00198654 that we can qyJXwPiL-OQ-00810-00198655-00199087 then we can do in um then we can conduct qyJXwPiL-OQ-00811-00199088-00199454 in the future so maybe that's good let's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00812-00199455-00199519 go qyJXwPiL-OQ-00813-00199520-00199759 with the first strength and see how qyJXwPiL-OQ-00814-00199760-00199950 let's see how it goes qyJXwPiL-OQ-00815-00199951-00200263 so the first strength is around power qyJXwPiL-OQ-00816-00200264-00200543 distribution and decision making qyJXwPiL-OQ-00817-00200544-00200783 so in the age of digital top monopoly qyJXwPiL-OQ-00818-00200784-00200975 and power centralization qyJXwPiL-OQ-00819-00200976-00201254 we want to imagine that imagine if you qyJXwPiL-OQ-00820-00201255-00201454 are in 2050 qyJXwPiL-OQ-00821-00201455-00201750 what would happen to to make power qyJXwPiL-OQ-00822-00201751-00201871 distribution qyJXwPiL-OQ-00823-00201872-00202150 possible because we can see like a lot qyJXwPiL-OQ-00824-00202151-00202271 of things qyJXwPiL-OQ-00825-00202272-00202590 are initially set up qyJXwPiL-OQ-00826-00202591-00202895 as uh decentralized qyJXwPiL-OQ-00827-00202896-00203278 like white web and um bitcoin but we can qyJXwPiL-OQ-00828-00203279-00203375 see the trends of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00829-00203376-00203735 centralization and so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00830-00203736-00204014 in your view like imagine we're in 2015 qyJXwPiL-OQ-00831-00204015-00204302 what are the pathways forward qyJXwPiL-OQ-00832-00204303-00204543 what what can be the pathways forward qyJXwPiL-OQ-00833-00204544-00204678 how do we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00834-00204679-00205046 delegate and distribute power qyJXwPiL-OQ-00835-00205048-00205479 fairly okay and and i'm supposed to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00836-00205480-00205766 to what take the the cards on the left qyJXwPiL-OQ-00837-00205767-00205934 or on the further left qyJXwPiL-OQ-00838-00205935-00206279 do we shuffle and deal seven cards qyJXwPiL-OQ-00839-00206280-00206903 i mean what's what are the moves here qyJXwPiL-OQ-00840-00206904-00207255 so so i um the idea is to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00841-00207256-00207414 you feel free to just have a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00842-00207415-00207631 conversation using this as a pronto qyJXwPiL-OQ-00843-00207632-00207871 to start a conversation and then your qyJXwPiL-OQ-00844-00207871-00208142 answer is probably starting to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00845-00208144-00208455 um is a response to a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00846-00208456-00208679 okay possibility of the experiment so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00847-00208680-00208806 probably just like feel free qyJXwPiL-OQ-00848-00208807-00209151 to maybe like can i suggest something qyJXwPiL-OQ-00849-00209152-00209462 yeah let's maybe project ourselves in qyJXwPiL-OQ-00850-00209463-00209534 the future qyJXwPiL-OQ-00851-00209535-00209839 maybe 2040 if it's far enough and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00852-00209840-00209982 imagine this radical qyJXwPiL-OQ-00853-00209983-00210151 civics where it would go where it would qyJXwPiL-OQ-00854-00210152-00210351 lead and you have all these problems to qyJXwPiL-OQ-00855-00210352-00210503 help you but if you're already inspired qyJXwPiL-OQ-00856-00210504-00210582 either by the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00857-00210583-00210798 earlier conversations the publication qyJXwPiL-OQ-00858-00210800-00210894 and so on qyJXwPiL-OQ-00859-00210896-00211206 uh feel free to start at any moment or qyJXwPiL-OQ-00860-00211207-00211294 at any qyJXwPiL-OQ-00861-00211296-00211615 specific space okay so qyJXwPiL-OQ-00862-00211616-00211951 um so i'm not required to to analyze the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00863-00211952-00212246 the scenario uh through the the three uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00864-00212248-00212575 strengths qyJXwPiL-OQ-00865-00212576-00212871 support it's a support but not uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00866-00212871-00213031 absolutely necessary qyJXwPiL-OQ-00867-00213032-00213423 okay um see um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00868-00213423-00213767 my work so far has always been about qyJXwPiL-OQ-00869-00213767-00214094 the plurality meaning that i don't try qyJXwPiL-OQ-00870-00214096-00214239 to predict the future qyJXwPiL-OQ-00871-00214240-00214527 i bring a little bit of the future qyJXwPiL-OQ-00872-00214528-00214631 through myself qyJXwPiL-OQ-00873-00214632-00214758 and through the work with the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00874-00214759-00215031 communities of every day qyJXwPiL-OQ-00875-00215032-00215294 but i remain open to the future because qyJXwPiL-OQ-00876-00215296-00215391 i always qyJXwPiL-OQ-00877-00215392-00215646 believe that people in the future are qyJXwPiL-OQ-00878-00215648-00215775 smarter than me qyJXwPiL-OQ-00879-00215776-00216134 so so whatever i do is as materials as qyJXwPiL-OQ-00880-00216135-00216223 assets qyJXwPiL-OQ-00881-00216223-00216463 for people in the future to remix freely qyJXwPiL-OQ-00882-00216464-00216631 and this underlies qyJXwPiL-OQ-00883-00216632-00216951 my practice of creative commons of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00884-00216952-00217206 open source and so on uh saying qyJXwPiL-OQ-00885-00217207-00217310 basically uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00886-00217311-00217582 that whatever i did are not products qyJXwPiL-OQ-00887-00217583-00217646 they're just qyJXwPiL-OQ-00888-00217648-00217991 inspirations and materials of sorts qyJXwPiL-OQ-00889-00217992-00218327 uh and so i think in so which is qyJXwPiL-OQ-00890-00218328-00218591 the lowercase c conservative in qyJXwPiL-OQ-00891-00218592-00218791 conservative anarchism qyJXwPiL-OQ-00892-00218792-00219110 to me is just not about pushing the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00893-00219111-00219182 world qyJXwPiL-OQ-00894-00219183-00219567 toward any particular state in 2040 qyJXwPiL-OQ-00895-00219567-00219871 it's about conserving the potential for qyJXwPiL-OQ-00896-00219871-00219998 people in the 2040 qyJXwPiL-OQ-00897-00220000-00220367 who are um unimaginably better uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00898-00220367-00220639 suited to solve 20 40 questions and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00899-00220640-00220751 problems that may qyJXwPiL-OQ-00900-00220752-00221127 uh to use whatever we did here in 2021 qyJXwPiL-OQ-00901-00221128-00221479 uh as materials without being burdened qyJXwPiL-OQ-00902-00221480-00221823 by for example copyrights patents qyJXwPiL-OQ-00903-00221823-00222079 and other existing structure that would qyJXwPiL-OQ-00904-00222080-00222255 foreclose them qyJXwPiL-OQ-00905-00222256-00222598 as the copyrights forecloses useful qyJXwPiL-OQ-00906-00222600-00222863 works for people to use for knowledge qyJXwPiL-OQ-00907-00222864-00223023 and so on and so that's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00908-00223023-00223382 that's the the basic idea so if by 2040 qyJXwPiL-OQ-00909-00223383-00223542 uh people do see qyJXwPiL-OQ-00910-00223544-00223871 that um the co-creation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00911-00223871-00224231 makes the intergenerational attention qyJXwPiL-OQ-00912-00224232-00224558 uh into co-creation and qyJXwPiL-OQ-00913-00224559-00224919 this co-creational spirit is still very qyJXwPiL-OQ-00914-00224919-00224951 much qyJXwPiL-OQ-00915-00224952-00225287 alive then i i don't really qyJXwPiL-OQ-00916-00225288-00225582 care really about the specifics of how qyJXwPiL-OQ-00917-00225583-00225663 exactly qyJXwPiL-OQ-00918-00225664-00225998 uh the re-decentralization uh takes as qyJXwPiL-OQ-00919-00226000-00226079 long as qyJXwPiL-OQ-00920-00226080-00226342 it's open to the year 2050 and then open qyJXwPiL-OQ-00921-00226344-00226510 to the year 2060. qyJXwPiL-OQ-00922-00226511-00226775 i know this is a very meta narrative but qyJXwPiL-OQ-00923-00226776-00226910 but really that's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00924-00226911-00227079 the foundation of what i mean by the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00925-00227080-00227703 root of good enough ancestorship qyJXwPiL-OQ-00926-00227704-00228071 in your view what would be if if qyJXwPiL-OQ-00927-00228071-00228271 the narrative is about building the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00928-00228271-00228534 materials that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00929-00228535-00228919 can be helpful for people um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00930-00228919-00229271 to to integrate and evolve qyJXwPiL-OQ-00931-00229271-00229631 how this is civil society can look like qyJXwPiL-OQ-00932-00229632-00229942 what would be the the materials that all qyJXwPiL-OQ-00933-00229944-00230334 like the essentials of those materials qyJXwPiL-OQ-00934-00230335-00230534 look like sure could you give some qyJXwPiL-OQ-00935-00230535-00230655 examples sure qyJXwPiL-OQ-00936-00230656-00230991 um so i have previously said uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00937-00230992-00231263 that any successful social innovation qyJXwPiL-OQ-00938-00231264-00231391 can be analyzed qyJXwPiL-OQ-00939-00231392-00231734 through the fast fair and fun pillars qyJXwPiL-OQ-00940-00231735-00231967 and these pillars i think are also qyJXwPiL-OQ-00941-00231967-00232203 important if we are to build a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00942-00232204-00232487 intergenerational view on not just qyJXwPiL-OQ-00943-00232488-00232710 problem solving but on civic space in in qyJXwPiL-OQ-00944-00232711-00232831 general how we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00945-00232832-00233110 solve everyone's problems uh by making qyJXwPiL-OQ-00946-00233111-00233142 sure qyJXwPiL-OQ-00947-00233144-00233382 it's everyone's business right and not qyJXwPiL-OQ-00948-00233383-00233487 specifically qyJXwPiL-OQ-00949-00233488-00233806 uh a few persons representatives uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00950-00233807-00233871 business qyJXwPiL-OQ-00951-00233871-00234206 so a it needs to be be fast meaning that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00952-00234207-00234303 we need to be qyJXwPiL-OQ-00953-00234304-00234582 uh building the public uh specifically qyJXwPiL-OQ-00954-00234583-00234655 digital qyJXwPiL-OQ-00955-00234656-00234975 but also physical infrastructures that qyJXwPiL-OQ-00956-00234976-00235239 allows distance making uh to propagate qyJXwPiL-OQ-00957-00235240-00235463 through the society quickly qyJXwPiL-OQ-00958-00235464-00235639 that's the collective intelligence qyJXwPiL-OQ-00959-00235640-00235846 strand and needs to be fair qyJXwPiL-OQ-00960-00235848-00236094 meaning that people who contribute need qyJXwPiL-OQ-00961-00236096-00236334 to understand reciprocal city qyJXwPiL-OQ-00962-00236335-00236623 understand is a commons understand it's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00963-00236623-00236775 not the extractive qyJXwPiL-OQ-00964-00236776-00237039 relationship and so on and so the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00965-00237040-00237142 fairness as qyJXwPiL-OQ-00966-00237144-00237431 a norm that is also important but i qyJXwPiL-OQ-00967-00237432-00237679 think even more important than false or qyJXwPiL-OQ-00968-00237680-00237742 fair qyJXwPiL-OQ-00969-00237744-00238119 is fun if people find a intrinsic qyJXwPiL-OQ-00970-00238119-00238439 reason to make contributions then what's qyJXwPiL-OQ-00971-00238440-00238503 unfair qyJXwPiL-OQ-00972-00238504-00238806 or what's unfast can be fixed qyJXwPiL-OQ-00973-00238807-00239087 by co-creation but if people do not get qyJXwPiL-OQ-00974-00239088-00239134 something qyJXwPiL-OQ-00975-00239135-00239439 intrinsic like fun sense of sheer joy qyJXwPiL-OQ-00976-00239440-00239679 and so on out of it out of the initial qyJXwPiL-OQ-00977-00239680-00239775 contribution qyJXwPiL-OQ-00978-00239776-00240087 then they could not progress uh into um qyJXwPiL-OQ-00979-00240088-00240310 agenda setting which requires a lot more qyJXwPiL-OQ-00980-00240311-00240430 energy right qyJXwPiL-OQ-00981-00240431-00240727 so i think uh although i said fast fast qyJXwPiL-OQ-00982-00240728-00240798 fair fun qyJXwPiL-OQ-00983-00240800-00240998 but probably fun is the most important qyJXwPiL-OQ-00984-00241000-00241151 to optimize uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-00985-00241152-00241494 earlier on hmm qyJXwPiL-OQ-00986-00241496-00241710 that's really great anyone want to jump qyJXwPiL-OQ-00987-00241711-00241982 in i feel like i'm talking too much qyJXwPiL-OQ-00988-00241983-00242294 yeah audrey i'd love to sort of in a qyJXwPiL-OQ-00989-00242296-00242446 world where qyJXwPiL-OQ-00990-00242448-00242639 i mean i was in a conversation where qyJXwPiL-OQ-00991-00242640-00242839 somebody was talking about the scale of qyJXwPiL-OQ-00992-00242840-00242958 trauma qyJXwPiL-OQ-00993-00242959-00243271 some part some people are facing qyJXwPiL-OQ-00994-00243271-00243527 um and how do you create how do we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00995-00243528-00243839 create the space for civil society qyJXwPiL-OQ-00996-00243840-00244206 when precarity and actual trauma qyJXwPiL-OQ-00997-00244207-00244510 like real our troll is on the on the qyJXwPiL-OQ-00998-00244511-00244646 face of it and how do we qyJXwPiL-OQ-00999-00244648-00244919 you know how we the fun aspect of it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01000-00244919-00245094 it's important but somehow this seems to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01001-00245096-00245287 be almost a foundational qyJXwPiL-OQ-01002-00245288-00245623 space of kind of hosting qyJXwPiL-OQ-01003-00245623-00245846 not hosting but holding the trauma and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01004-00245848-00245967 letting the pain be qyJXwPiL-OQ-01005-00245967-00246142 be acknowledged but at the same time qyJXwPiL-OQ-01006-00246144-00246367 being able to move forward to a civil qyJXwPiL-OQ-01007-00246367-00246534 civil relationship which is also going qyJXwPiL-OQ-01008-00246535-00246710 to be critical because i think qyJXwPiL-OQ-01009-00246711-00247030 we're facing increasingly more qyJXwPiL-OQ-01010-00247031-00247382 divided and traumatized societies and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01011-00247383-00247671 the journey to civility that's where qyJXwPiL-OQ-01012-00247671-00247830 radical civility qyJXwPiL-OQ-01013-00247831-00248006 is going to require something i would qyJXwPiL-OQ-01014-00248007-00248167 love for thoughts qyJXwPiL-OQ-01015-00248167-00248494 on that space qyJXwPiL-OQ-01016-00248496-00248694 yeah well when i say fun i don't just qyJXwPiL-OQ-01017-00248696-00248846 mean the onion which qyJXwPiL-OQ-01018-00248848-00249167 uh of course it includes the onion but qyJXwPiL-OQ-01019-00249167-00249471 i i also mean fun by for example looking qyJXwPiL-OQ-01020-00249471-00249558 at mirrorboard qyJXwPiL-OQ-01021-00249559-00249823 uh and and smiling at each other and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01022-00249823-00249919 making self qyJXwPiL-OQ-01023-00249919-00250127 introduction in a round to a virtual qyJXwPiL-OQ-01024-00250128-00250334 plant uh in the middle of us qyJXwPiL-OQ-01025-00250335-00250639 i i mean that's that's fun right so qyJXwPiL-OQ-01026-00250640-00250975 so uh in in uh in the social workers qyJXwPiL-OQ-01027-00250976-00251319 uh pollens uh rapport can only be built qyJXwPiL-OQ-01028-00251319-00251534 uh when there is a safe space qyJXwPiL-OQ-01029-00251535-00251815 so so mirror google meet as we're using qyJXwPiL-OQ-01030-00251816-00252015 now the universal broadband that we're qyJXwPiL-OQ-01031-00252016-00252215 currently enjoying and so on qyJXwPiL-OQ-01032-00252216-00252406 these are all part of the safe space qyJXwPiL-OQ-01033-00252407-00252591 these are the material foundations qyJXwPiL-OQ-01034-00252592-00252863 uh the enabling condition of the the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01035-00252864-00252958 safe space qyJXwPiL-OQ-01036-00252959-00253134 now you mentioned facebook but everybody qyJXwPiL-OQ-01037-00253135-00253319 use facebook very differently qyJXwPiL-OQ-01038-00253319-00253519 i use facebook feed eradicator i don't qyJXwPiL-OQ-01039-00253519-00253703 even have a facebook feed qyJXwPiL-OQ-01040-00253704-00253910 so so for me it's just a place for me to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01041-00253911-00254063 search some hashtags and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01042-00254064-00254271 view some videos not unlike any other qyJXwPiL-OQ-01043-00254271-00254430 video platform qyJXwPiL-OQ-01044-00254431-00254863 and so i'm kind of not harmed qyJXwPiL-OQ-01045-00254864-00255230 by the parasitical um authoritarian qyJXwPiL-OQ-01046-00255231-00255334 intelligence qyJXwPiL-OQ-01047-00255335-00255575 that powers uh facebook's uh most qyJXwPiL-OQ-01048-00255576-00255734 revenue streams uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01049-00255735-00255903 and and i understand of course that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01050-00255904-00256087 people would naturally want to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01051-00256088-00256351 form town hall-like civic conversations qyJXwPiL-OQ-01052-00256352-00256455 on facebook qyJXwPiL-OQ-01053-00256456-00256734 but i see it is kind of fundamentally qyJXwPiL-OQ-01054-00256735-00256903 misguided because qyJXwPiL-OQ-01055-00256904-00257127 it's just like holding a real town hall qyJXwPiL-OQ-01056-00257128-00257255 in physical space qyJXwPiL-OQ-01057-00257256-00257542 in a very loud nightclub filled with qyJXwPiL-OQ-01058-00257544-00257591 smoke qyJXwPiL-OQ-01059-00257592-00257775 people have to shout to get hurt qyJXwPiL-OQ-01060-00257776-00257991 addictive drink private bouncers you qyJXwPiL-OQ-01061-00257992-00258046 name it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01062-00258048-00258382 and with all due respect there is a room qyJXwPiL-OQ-01063-00258383-00258430 for qyJXwPiL-OQ-01064-00258431-00258791 night life district in a city qyJXwPiL-OQ-01065-00258792-00259071 it's just that this room is not the town qyJXwPiL-OQ-01066-00259071-00259127 hall qyJXwPiL-OQ-01067-00259128-00259406 and so the underlying infrastructure qyJXwPiL-OQ-01068-00259407-00259663 needs to have these norms uh in mind qyJXwPiL-OQ-01069-00259664-00259910 uh so either everybody installs the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01070-00259911-00260063 eradicator or whatever qyJXwPiL-OQ-01071-00260064-00260319 or we just built a public digital qyJXwPiL-OQ-01072-00260319-00260527 infrastructure qyJXwPiL-OQ-01073-00260528-00260806 i really appreciate the answer and i qyJXwPiL-OQ-01074-00260807-00260958 suppose one question i had qyJXwPiL-OQ-01075-00260959-00261255 and i'll stop off this is that the kind qyJXwPiL-OQ-01076-00261256-00261415 of idea of radical civics qyJXwPiL-OQ-01077-00261416-00261615 so for example if property rights were qyJXwPiL-OQ-01078-00261616-00261791 not hosted by the state qyJXwPiL-OQ-01079-00261792-00262023 but were decentralized and distributed qyJXwPiL-OQ-01080-00262023-00262206 is a transfer of power qyJXwPiL-OQ-01081-00262207-00262343 to what is a traditionally being qyJXwPiL-OQ-01082-00262344-00262551 imagined or money formation wasn't a qyJXwPiL-OQ-01083-00262552-00262863 role in the state it was when uh or qyJXwPiL-OQ-01084-00262864-00263063 civil law and actually these are qyJXwPiL-OQ-01085-00263064-00263287 fundamental redistributions of power qyJXwPiL-OQ-01086-00263288-00263406 from strength qyJXwPiL-OQ-01087-00263407-00263727 to a new type of civil society what's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01088-00263728-00263782 your qyJXwPiL-OQ-01089-00263783-00264030 feeling about that sort of journey and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01090-00264031-00264087 um qyJXwPiL-OQ-01091-00264088-00264479 and the kind of and that plurality of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01092-00264480-00264551 public qyJXwPiL-OQ-01093-00264552-00264847 publics that that generates and the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01094-00264848-00265039 politics of doing that maybe qyJXwPiL-OQ-01095-00265040-00265230 what would be the policy for doing that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01096-00265231-00265495 making that journey qyJXwPiL-OQ-01097-00265496-00265703 since you sit in this unique place of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01098-00265704-00265895 sitting in these worlds qyJXwPiL-OQ-01099-00265896-00266215 right um so you you cited qyJXwPiL-OQ-01100-00266216-00266558 um if i listened correctly um qyJXwPiL-OQ-01101-00266559-00266815 kind of satoshi nakamoto as a bad qyJXwPiL-OQ-01102-00266816-00266951 example qyJXwPiL-OQ-01103-00266952-00267239 did i understand that correctly or not qyJXwPiL-OQ-01104-00267240-00267295 well qyJXwPiL-OQ-01105-00267296-00267599 i for my view qyJXwPiL-OQ-01106-00267600-00267767 bitcoin is the disruption of both qyJXwPiL-OQ-01107-00267768-00267967 private and state qyJXwPiL-OQ-01108-00267968-00268391 simultaneously right and i think i think qyJXwPiL-OQ-01109-00268392-00268767 um bitcoin heralds a different future qyJXwPiL-OQ-01110-00268768-00269047 and i think civil society i think qyJXwPiL-OQ-01111-00269048-00269175 there's lots of things potentially qyJXwPiL-OQ-01112-00269176-00269327 challenging about it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01113-00269328-00269599 the deflationary nation the asset it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01114-00269600-00269775 will concentrate well on other things qyJXwPiL-OQ-01115-00269776-00269823 but that's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01116-00269824-00269951 different things that we should just qyJXwPiL-OQ-01117-00269952-00270134 think about whether whether qyJXwPiL-OQ-01118-00270135-00271030 that will provide the justice qyJXwPiL-OQ-01119-00271031-00271391 organizing money production and and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01120-00271392-00271623 and i think it heralds this i think it's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01121-00271624-00272134 a herald of a radical city qyJXwPiL-OQ-01122-00272135-00272334 and i think governments are struggling qyJXwPiL-OQ-01123-00272335-00272479 to deal with it you've seen qyJXwPiL-OQ-01124-00272480-00272782 recently china china's response to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01125-00272783-00273182 bitcoin because it disrupts power of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01126-00273183-00273343 money formation and money control qyJXwPiL-OQ-01127-00273344-00273623 in really traditional ways and i think qyJXwPiL-OQ-01128-00273624-00273703 if we qyJXwPiL-OQ-01129-00273704-00273934 imagine it as apparently it's a really qyJXwPiL-OQ-01130-00273935-00274063 interesting question qyJXwPiL-OQ-01131-00274064-00274287 about how do we build a new relationship qyJXwPiL-OQ-01132-00274288-00274367 between qyJXwPiL-OQ-01133-00274368-00274630 the radical civic route and government qyJXwPiL-OQ-01134-00274631-00274767 and private sector qyJXwPiL-OQ-01135-00274768-00274951 and other sectors so that that was a qyJXwPiL-OQ-01136-00274952-00275119 major question okay qyJXwPiL-OQ-01137-00275120-00275455 okay okay um so to to me qyJXwPiL-OQ-01138-00275456-00275719 bitcoin uh still runs on top of the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01139-00275720-00275879 internet protocol qyJXwPiL-OQ-01140-00275880-00276071 it implements of course some of the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01141-00276072-00276247 norms that we already had qyJXwPiL-OQ-01142-00276248-00276463 in say cypherpunks and other uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01143-00276464-00276575 communities qyJXwPiL-OQ-01144-00276576-00276847 uh but it's not the first implementation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01145-00276848-00276982 nor is it the last qyJXwPiL-OQ-01146-00276983-00277182 it's a it's the first mainstream qyJXwPiL-OQ-01147-00277183-00277423 application let's call it that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01148-00277424-00277758 and uh which is um i i guess it makes it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01149-00277759-00277839 a good enough qyJXwPiL-OQ-01150-00277840-00278151 ancestor right because first it um qyJXwPiL-OQ-01151-00278152-00278447 measurably did inspire more people than qyJXwPiL-OQ-01152-00278448-00278615 any previous distributed ledger qyJXwPiL-OQ-01153-00278616-00278743 implementations qyJXwPiL-OQ-01154-00278744-00279063 and also um satoshi did not qyJXwPiL-OQ-01155-00279064-00279406 sue anyone for patent infringement so qyJXwPiL-OQ-01156-00279407-00279639 people are free to to do proof of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01157-00279640-00279727 space-time qyJXwPiL-OQ-01158-00279728-00280087 uh proof of humanity proof of whatever qyJXwPiL-OQ-01159-00280088-00280319 without you know getting legal action qyJXwPiL-OQ-01160-00280320-00280471 from satoshi qyJXwPiL-OQ-01161-00280472-00280734 and so i i i would say that bitcoin uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01162-00280735-00280967 fits the description of a good enough uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01163-00280968-00281287 ancestor uh but it's as for its qyJXwPiL-OQ-01164-00281288-00281510 radicalness or its specificness qyJXwPiL-OQ-01165-00281511-00281823 i think is just one manifestation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01166-00281824-00282151 of the so-called end-to-end principle qyJXwPiL-OQ-01167-00282152-00282375 in the internet and i think the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01168-00282376-00282510 end-to-end principle qyJXwPiL-OQ-01169-00282511-00282815 which says that innovation can happen qyJXwPiL-OQ-01170-00282816-00283030 as long as two willing people anywhere qyJXwPiL-OQ-01171-00283031-00283230 in the network consent to it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01172-00283231-00283455 i think that is truly radical as in in qyJXwPiL-OQ-01173-00283456-00283543 the root uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01174-00283544-00283847 bitcoin unleash some of that promise of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01175-00283848-00283991 the core internet qyJXwPiL-OQ-01176-00283992-00284239 uh but there are many more and and to me qyJXwPiL-OQ-01177-00284240-00284327 internet is qyJXwPiL-OQ-01178-00284328-00284599 more radical in a radical civic sense qyJXwPiL-OQ-01179-00284600-00284630 than qyJXwPiL-OQ-01180-00284631-00285182 bitcoin uh by orders of magnitude qyJXwPiL-OQ-01181-00285183-00285430 and the relationship of government to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01182-00285431-00285647 these sort of devices yeah so so qyJXwPiL-OQ-01183-00285648-00285951 the prc did not ban the internet qyJXwPiL-OQ-01184-00285952-00286287 so right so it means that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01185-00286288-00286639 it it was successful in uh mainstreaming qyJXwPiL-OQ-01186-00286640-00286719 even more qyJXwPiL-OQ-01187-00286720-00287039 stakeholders so that uh the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01188-00287040-00287382 uh kind of tolerance of the disruptive qyJXwPiL-OQ-01189-00287383-00287479 potential qyJXwPiL-OQ-01190-00287480-00287847 of future internet applications um even qyJXwPiL-OQ-01191-00287848-00288191 very high but also the incentive qyJXwPiL-OQ-01192-00288192-00288447 for a state to allow its almost qyJXwPiL-OQ-01193-00288448-00288575 parasitical qyJXwPiL-OQ-01194-00288576-00288879 existence is still very high which is qyJXwPiL-OQ-01195-00288880-00289039 partly why prc qyJXwPiL-OQ-01196-00289040-00289334 banned you know the bitcoin related qyJXwPiL-OQ-01197-00289335-00289423 websites but qyJXwPiL-OQ-01198-00289424-00289751 it did not ban github for exactly the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01199-00289752-00289871 same reason qyJXwPiL-OQ-01200-00289872-00290127 and so i i guess the the co-creation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01201-00290128-00290175 part qyJXwPiL-OQ-01202-00290176-00290487 the fun part really of say github or qyJXwPiL-OQ-01203-00290488-00290534 other qyJXwPiL-OQ-01204-00290535-00290710 uh internet-based open source qyJXwPiL-OQ-01205-00290711-00290854 infrastructure qyJXwPiL-OQ-01206-00290855-00291215 pose a a very attractive qyJXwPiL-OQ-01207-00291216-00291447 force for state governments even qyJXwPiL-OQ-01208-00291448-00291606 authoritarian ones qyJXwPiL-OQ-01209-00291607-00291830 and at this particular stage i mean i qyJXwPiL-OQ-01210-00291831-00291943 think they they need qyJXwPiL-OQ-01211-00291944-00292247 probably uh to be symbiotic uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01212-00292248-00292582 in order to work with um certainly not qyJXwPiL-OQ-01213-00292583-00292887 for the radical civics but qyJXwPiL-OQ-01214-00292888-00293199 if we see um the radical civics as qyJXwPiL-OQ-01215-00293200-00293510 a symbiotic instead of parasitical force qyJXwPiL-OQ-01216-00293511-00293751 that already is something right it's not qyJXwPiL-OQ-01217-00293752-00293951 something that people do when they get qyJXwPiL-OQ-01218-00293952-00294223 cognitive surplus this is not something qyJXwPiL-OQ-01219-00294224-00294343 that people do qyJXwPiL-OQ-01220-00294344-00294639 to reform the government this is qyJXwPiL-OQ-01221-00294640-00294830 something that is symbiotic qyJXwPiL-OQ-01222-00294831-00295727 with the other sectors qyJXwPiL-OQ-01223-00295728-00296039 anyone want to jump in qyJXwPiL-OQ-01224-00296040-00296287 i was wondering about uh the market's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01225-00296288-00296506 role in qyJXwPiL-OQ-01226-00296507-00296830 inappropriating the values created qyJXwPiL-OQ-01227-00296831-00297087 opens through open source protocol open qyJXwPiL-OQ-01228-00297088-00297206 source work qyJXwPiL-OQ-01229-00297207-00297591 uh and then accumulating uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01230-00297592-00297999 the value in profits and private uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01231-00298000-00298343 shareholder value and how qyJXwPiL-OQ-01232-00298344-00298591 what kind i mean do we have examples of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01233-00298592-00298719 uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01234-00298720-00298943 uh material infrastructures that are qyJXwPiL-OQ-01235-00298944-00299047 trying to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01236-00299048-00299527 upend those dynamics qyJXwPiL-OQ-01237-00299528-00299791 so that the so that the value that is qyJXwPiL-OQ-01238-00299792-00299934 created through open networks qyJXwPiL-OQ-01239-00299935-00300367 is sort of uh kept for the ancestors qyJXwPiL-OQ-01240-00300368-00300687 uh as open value rather than qyJXwPiL-OQ-01241-00300688-00301071 closed private value so systems that are qyJXwPiL-OQ-01242-00301072-00301215 are fair uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01243-00301216-00301543 to to its its participants but we do qyJXwPiL-OQ-01244-00301544-00301582 have qyJXwPiL-OQ-01245-00301583-00301887 plenty of these uh systems and i see qyJXwPiL-OQ-01246-00301888-00302247 a uh related question uh in in the chat qyJXwPiL-OQ-01247-00302248-00302591 uh that says how about um how do bitcoin qyJXwPiL-OQ-01248-00302592-00302639 evolve qyJXwPiL-OQ-01249-00302640-00302991 basically and and so uh so actually qyJXwPiL-OQ-01250-00302992-00303199 tackling that question leads to to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01251-00303200-00303343 answering your question qyJXwPiL-OQ-01252-00303344-00303582 so the bitcoin successes tackle that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01253-00303583-00303782 through different consensus schemes qyJXwPiL-OQ-01254-00303783-00304071 right uh proof of space time as in file qyJXwPiL-OQ-01255-00304072-00304110 coin qyJXwPiL-OQ-01256-00304111-00304415 proof of stake as in ethereum 2.0 qyJXwPiL-OQ-01257-00304416-00304639 uh and and things like that and and all qyJXwPiL-OQ-01258-00304640-00304791 these are basically qyJXwPiL-OQ-01259-00304792-00305110 redesigning such that uh it's it's more qyJXwPiL-OQ-01260-00305111-00305175 fair qyJXwPiL-OQ-01261-00305176-00305423 uh fair for the planet fair for the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01262-00305424-00305591 external society qyJXwPiL-OQ-01263-00305592-00305863 fear for uh up-and-coming participants qyJXwPiL-OQ-01264-00305864-00306079 in the network instead of dominated qyJXwPiL-OQ-01265-00306080-00306310 uh by a few uh persons in the beginning qyJXwPiL-OQ-01266-00306311-00306510 of the revolution right and things like qyJXwPiL-OQ-01267-00306511-00306567 that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01268-00306568-00306910 so uh in a sense that that's their uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01269-00306911-00307151 not just climate change mitigation and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01270-00307152-00307310 transformation but also qyJXwPiL-OQ-01271-00307311-00307495 a broader sustainability uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01272-00307496-00307630 transformation because qyJXwPiL-OQ-01273-00307631-00307847 uh without these actions it would not be qyJXwPiL-OQ-01274-00307848-00307975 sustainable meaning that the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01275-00307976-00308103 externalities qyJXwPiL-OQ-01276-00308104-00308367 negative ones will be so large that the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01277-00308368-00308567 surrounding society and business will qyJXwPiL-OQ-01278-00308568-00308743 start to boycott them as we have seen qyJXwPiL-OQ-01279-00308744-00308815 recently qyJXwPiL-OQ-01280-00308816-00309039 uh with bitcoin and so there's a larger qyJXwPiL-OQ-01281-00309040-00309206 social norm there's a larger social qyJXwPiL-OQ-01282-00309207-00309295 force here qyJXwPiL-OQ-01283-00309296-00309543 so how to make sure that these radical qyJXwPiL-OQ-01284-00309544-00309647 civics qyJXwPiL-OQ-01285-00309648-00309830 which show the promise of radical qyJXwPiL-OQ-01286-00309831-00310071 co-creation across sectors qyJXwPiL-OQ-01287-00310072-00310527 remains fair in a wider societal norm qyJXwPiL-OQ-01288-00310528-00310703 of course that means that we need to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01289-00310704-00310967 deliver something that is perceived as qyJXwPiL-OQ-01290-00310968-00310999 more qyJXwPiL-OQ-01291-00311000-00311263 fair to the existing society norm that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01292-00311264-00311415 is to say it needs to be pareto qyJXwPiL-OQ-01293-00311416-00311510 improvements qyJXwPiL-OQ-01294-00311511-00311847 if if one makes a innovation that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01295-00311848-00312134 makes it more fair for a few people or a qyJXwPiL-OQ-01296-00312135-00312287 few percentage of people qyJXwPiL-OQ-01297-00312288-00312543 but reduce the fairness reduce equity qyJXwPiL-OQ-01298-00312544-00312623 for the other qyJXwPiL-OQ-01299-00312624-00312815 part of the people i'm not just talking qyJXwPiL-OQ-01300-00312816-00312991 about bitcoin but because it's a good qyJXwPiL-OQ-01301-00312992-00313087 example qyJXwPiL-OQ-01302-00313088-00313382 and then of course then it will not be qyJXwPiL-OQ-01303-00313383-00313487 tolerated qyJXwPiL-OQ-01304-00313488-00313682 for a long time by the surrounding qyJXwPiL-OQ-01305-00313683-00313823 society qyJXwPiL-OQ-01306-00313824-00314230 on the other hand for example the crowd qyJXwPiL-OQ-01307-00314231-00314503 sourced sense making of air pollution in qyJXwPiL-OQ-01308-00314504-00314606 taiwan qyJXwPiL-OQ-01309-00314607-00314879 the digital competence co-creation of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01310-00314880-00315079 the counter disinformation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01311-00315080-00315382 what we call humor over rumor or making qyJXwPiL-OQ-01312-00315383-00315591 sure there's notice with no takedown but qyJXwPiL-OQ-01313-00315592-00315758 public notice and so on qyJXwPiL-OQ-01314-00315759-00316030 we can actually tangibly prove that the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01315-00316031-00316191 time you put into it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01316-00316192-00316423 increase the social equity without qyJXwPiL-OQ-01317-00316424-00316671 leaving any particular part behind qyJXwPiL-OQ-01318-00316672-00316927 and the reason why we can prove that is qyJXwPiL-OQ-01319-00316928-00317158 because taiwan has as its constitutional qyJXwPiL-OQ-01320-00317159-00317215 core qyJXwPiL-OQ-01321-00317216-00317479 universal broadband education qyJXwPiL-OQ-01322-00317480-00317599 communication qyJXwPiL-OQ-01323-00317600-00317910 as a right to citizens so it's not just qyJXwPiL-OQ-01324-00317911-00318103 that the state has the responsibility to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01325-00318104-00318334 fulfill the infrastructure but people qyJXwPiL-OQ-01326-00318335-00318551 expect these uh to be part of the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01327-00318552-00318671 dignity qyJXwPiL-OQ-01328-00318672-00318951 of citizenship and so when we introduce qyJXwPiL-OQ-01329-00318952-00319151 such co-creation materials qyJXwPiL-OQ-01330-00319152-00319439 people do not simply say oh what about qyJXwPiL-OQ-01331-00319440-00319503 people qyJXwPiL-OQ-01332-00319504-00319719 with no problem access because people qyJXwPiL-OQ-01333-00319720-00319934 know well that's soft on the underlying qyJXwPiL-OQ-01334-00319935-00319975 layer qyJXwPiL-OQ-01335-00319976-00320182 right people don't say what about people qyJXwPiL-OQ-01336-00320183-00320367 who are not part of the universal health qyJXwPiL-OQ-01337-00320368-00320415 care qyJXwPiL-OQ-01338-00320416-00320606 well do they get musculation what about qyJXwPiL-OQ-01339-00320607-00320719 immigrant workers qyJXwPiL-OQ-01340-00320720-00320887 because on the underlying layer they are qyJXwPiL-OQ-01341-00320888-00321110 already included in universal healthcare qyJXwPiL-OQ-01342-00321111-00321263 and importance is not that it's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01343-00321264-00321471 state-run the importance is that it's a qyJXwPiL-OQ-01344-00321472-00321775 fair expectation that's always delivered qyJXwPiL-OQ-01345-00321776-00322047 by the social sector even when the state qyJXwPiL-OQ-01346-00322048-00322223 through its numerous omissions for qyJXwPiL-OQ-01347-00322224-00322295 example qyJXwPiL-OQ-01348-00322296-00322575 forget uh to recompensate for qyJXwPiL-OQ-01349-00322576-00322671 telemedicine qyJXwPiL-OQ-01350-00322672-00322958 uh because the ic card was icy card qyJXwPiL-OQ-01351-00322959-00322999 based qyJXwPiL-OQ-01352-00323000-00323271 right then people are prompted to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01353-00323272-00323367 innovate qyJXwPiL-OQ-01354-00323368-00323558 on telemedicine and various other ways qyJXwPiL-OQ-01355-00323559-00323727 to kind of augment qyJXwPiL-OQ-01356-00323728-00323903 the existing omissions and by qyJXwPiL-OQ-01357-00323904-00324079 relinquishing their copyright and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01358-00324080-00324295 patents the state were able then qyJXwPiL-OQ-01359-00324296-00324454 through presidential hackathon other qyJXwPiL-OQ-01360-00324455-00324639 means just make sure that it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01361-00324640-00324887 continues to observe the social norm by qyJXwPiL-OQ-01362-00324888-00325015 delivering part of that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01363-00325016-00325310 infrastructure so um so this is a really qyJXwPiL-OQ-01364-00325311-00325391 long run qyJXwPiL-OQ-01365-00325392-00325663 sentence but i i i trust that you qyJXwPiL-OQ-01366-00325664-00325758 understand the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01367-00325759-00326030 the main idea is pareto improvement qyJXwPiL-OQ-01368-00326031-00326158 across sectors qyJXwPiL-OQ-01369-00326159-00326399 that not just conform but evolves a qyJXwPiL-OQ-01370-00326400-00326479 social norm qyJXwPiL-OQ-01371-00326480-00326743 that's already upheld by other sectors qyJXwPiL-OQ-01372-00326744-00326839 related qyJXwPiL-OQ-01373-00326840-00327479 to that particular endeavor qyJXwPiL-OQ-01374-00327480-00327743 so just one question related to what you qyJXwPiL-OQ-01375-00327744-00327887 mentioned earlier about qyJXwPiL-OQ-01376-00327888-00328206 um like the long welfare system like api qyJXwPiL-OQ-01377-00328207-00328567 as a foundational enabling condition qyJXwPiL-OQ-01378-00328568-00328895 to support the the civic actions in qyJXwPiL-OQ-01379-00328896-00328999 society qyJXwPiL-OQ-01380-00329000-00329167 i wonder because you mentioned earlier qyJXwPiL-OQ-01381-00329168-00329447 about everything qyJXwPiL-OQ-01382-00329448-00329775 um is included already i wonder how does qyJXwPiL-OQ-01383-00329776-00329806 that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01384-00329807-00330103 how how does that look like and how does qyJXwPiL-OQ-01385-00330104-00330167 that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01386-00330168-00330471 work for those countries qyJXwPiL-OQ-01387-00330472-00330751 that doesn't have those conditions in qyJXwPiL-OQ-01388-00330752-00331015 place qyJXwPiL-OQ-01389-00331016-00331215 taiwan does not have universal health qyJXwPiL-OQ-01390-00331216-00331454 care so universal health care was only qyJXwPiL-OQ-01391-00331455-00331687 introduced after taiwan's first qyJXwPiL-OQ-01392-00331688-00331919 citizen assembly style deliberation uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01393-00331920-00332095 and but it's in the history books qyJXwPiL-OQ-01394-00332096-00332567 so people can look it up yeah qyJXwPiL-OQ-01395-00332568-00332806 wanting to be mindful of time uh we have qyJXwPiL-OQ-01396-00332807-00332919 an hour correct qyJXwPiL-OQ-01397-00332920-00333175 that's right um yes and and audrey i qyJXwPiL-OQ-01398-00333176-00333295 know you're really busy so qyJXwPiL-OQ-01399-00333296-00333623 uh is it a hard stop for you at uh it's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01400-00333624-00333847 not a particularly hard stop uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01401-00333848-00334239 but it is it's st here uh i think st is qyJXwPiL-OQ-01402-00334240-00334310 still here qyJXwPiL-OQ-01403-00334311-00334615 yes yes so uh how are you on time qyJXwPiL-OQ-01404-00334616-00334782 do you have a heart stop or can you qyJXwPiL-OQ-01405-00334783-00334919 continue um qyJXwPiL-OQ-01406-00334920-00335271 in my absence oh yeah sure but qyJXwPiL-OQ-01407-00335272-00335630 uh i'm not pressure because i missed the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01408-00335631-00335999 the context that's before yes so too bad qyJXwPiL-OQ-01409-00336000-00336375 yeah okay so yeah maybe i i can stay on qyJXwPiL-OQ-01410-00336376-00336654 for another 5-10 minutes qyJXwPiL-OQ-01411-00336655-00336830 thank you so much wonderful thank you qyJXwPiL-OQ-01412-00336831-00336999 audrey qyJXwPiL-OQ-01413-00337000-00337247 jonathan do you want to come in and and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01414-00337248-00337391 look at any qyJXwPiL-OQ-01415-00337392-00338143 um questions that we have to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01416-00338144-00338343 just to bring bring to the table before qyJXwPiL-OQ-01417-00338344-00338463 we close qyJXwPiL-OQ-01418-00338464-00338663 i think i would just let anybody else qyJXwPiL-OQ-01419-00338664-00338799 who uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01420-00338800-00338975 has been thinking through this qyJXwPiL-OQ-01421-00338976-00339175 conversation um qyJXwPiL-OQ-01422-00339176-00339519 if there's any question or thoughts or qyJXwPiL-OQ-01423-00339520-00339591 ideas qyJXwPiL-OQ-01424-00339592-00340175 or worry about the future of that space qyJXwPiL-OQ-01425-00340176-00340478 i mean i suppose i'll sort of keep qyJXwPiL-OQ-01426-00340479-00340647 going into somebody else's other qyJXwPiL-OQ-01427-00340648-00340815 questions and just punch me out of the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01428-00340816-00340863 way qyJXwPiL-OQ-01429-00340864-00341215 um i really enjoy the precision of your qyJXwPiL-OQ-01430-00341216-00341263 words qyJXwPiL-OQ-01431-00341264-00341606 audrey i suppose um because in a way as qyJXwPiL-OQ-01432-00341607-00341734 i hear them qyJXwPiL-OQ-01433-00341735-00341951 like the space so the co-creation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01434-00341952-00342134 capability is almost the foundational qyJXwPiL-OQ-01435-00342135-00342215 setting it's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01436-00342216-00342430 how can you go that's that's the basic qyJXwPiL-OQ-01437-00342431-00342551 of civics qyJXwPiL-OQ-01438-00342552-00342863 and then growing fairness qyJXwPiL-OQ-01439-00342864-00343078 is almost the intentionality who is qyJXwPiL-OQ-01440-00343079-00343334 involved in that cooperation capability qyJXwPiL-OQ-01441-00343335-00343727 and it's not it can never be qyJXwPiL-OQ-01442-00343728-00344006 everyone so it's the growing capability qyJXwPiL-OQ-01443-00344007-00344054 of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01444-00344055-00344263 of that that's really the issue growing qyJXwPiL-OQ-01445-00344264-00344439 in space and in time qyJXwPiL-OQ-01446-00344440-00344615 so that's actually the kind of vector qyJXwPiL-OQ-01447-00344616-00344767 quality of it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01448-00344768-00345110 and and um and in time qyJXwPiL-OQ-01449-00345111-00345295 as i was so reconciling what you were qyJXwPiL-OQ-01450-00345296-00345439 saying you were saying qyJXwPiL-OQ-01451-00345440-00345630 actually we have to create systems which qyJXwPiL-OQ-01452-00345631-00345799 allow that for qyJXwPiL-OQ-01453-00345800-00345975 maintaining the potentiality of future qyJXwPiL-OQ-01454-00345976-00346175 generations and conserving everything qyJXwPiL-OQ-01455-00346176-00346319 charters so that's the kind of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01456-00346320-00346543 obviously the definition of civics that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01457-00346544-00346743 i at that values or that was able to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01458-00346744-00346854 understand qyJXwPiL-OQ-01459-00346855-00347167 and then i suppose qyJXwPiL-OQ-01460-00347168-00347391 one of the things i suppose and this may qyJXwPiL-OQ-01461-00347392-00347551 be wrong as well let's have that on this qyJXwPiL-OQ-01462-00347552-00347663 conversation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01463-00347664-00347919 is you know what if we were to start to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01464-00347920-00348127 think about money production qyJXwPiL-OQ-01465-00348128-00348439 in a in in a in qyJXwPiL-OQ-01466-00348440-00348647 in that sort of way what if we were to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01467-00348648-00348823 start to say well actually qyJXwPiL-OQ-01468-00348824-00348999 the current reality is certainly in the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01469-00349000-00349199 uk very few people have access to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01470-00349200-00349278 justice qyJXwPiL-OQ-01471-00349279-00349510 you have the idea of justice but the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01472-00349511-00349719 access to justice no longer exists qyJXwPiL-OQ-01473-00349720-00349958 so amazon terms and cheats it's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01474-00349959-00350071 eventually impossible qyJXwPiL-OQ-01475-00350072-00350247 but actually the practice so we know qyJXwPiL-OQ-01476-00350248-00350478 we're increasingly democracies are qyJXwPiL-OQ-01477-00350479-00350687 struggling to deliver justice qyJXwPiL-OQ-01478-00350688-00350967 um so we have to reinvent the thesis of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01479-00350968-00351158 justice in the 21st century which allows qyJXwPiL-OQ-01480-00351159-00351234 for a different form of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01481-00351235-00351430 micro-accountability and next mechanisms qyJXwPiL-OQ-01482-00351431-00351510 of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01483-00351511-00351830 redressed in a new way and that's going qyJXwPiL-OQ-01484-00351831-00351975 to be different from the institutions qyJXwPiL-OQ-01485-00351976-00352047 that we have qyJXwPiL-OQ-01486-00352048-00352430 um we know that actually our registries qyJXwPiL-OQ-01487-00352431-00352543 that we're about to build qyJXwPiL-OQ-01488-00352544-00352719 they could be built from a completely qyJXwPiL-OQ-01489-00352720-00352854 different thesis that would qyJXwPiL-OQ-01490-00352855-00353103 make the public and pluralize the public qyJXwPiL-OQ-01491-00353104-00353263 rather than centralize the public so the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01492-00353264-00353423 plurality of publishers qyJXwPiL-OQ-01493-00353424-00353654 so there feels like a moment of radical qyJXwPiL-OQ-01494-00353655-00353830 institutional reform qyJXwPiL-OQ-01495-00353831-00353999 that could actually empower building qyJXwPiL-OQ-01496-00354000-00354182 this radical civic base qyJXwPiL-OQ-01497-00354183-00354382 and allow government to have new qyJXwPiL-OQ-01498-00354383-00354663 integrity in that process as well qyJXwPiL-OQ-01499-00354664-00354847 would you do you feel the hypothesis qyJXwPiL-OQ-01500-00354848-00355054 we're running is valid qyJXwPiL-OQ-01501-00355055-00355406 sure certainly certainly it's valid qyJXwPiL-OQ-01502-00355407-00355654 uh and we're of course in the middle of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01503-00355655-00355734 the great qyJXwPiL-OQ-01504-00355735-00356039 accelerator uh for that right the twin qyJXwPiL-OQ-01505-00356040-00356127 damage qyJXwPiL-OQ-01506-00356128-00356334 uh that affects the humanity with the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01507-00356335-00356439 same urgency qyJXwPiL-OQ-01508-00356440-00356654 and therefore allows people to find qyJXwPiL-OQ-01509-00356655-00356863 common topics across time zones qyJXwPiL-OQ-01510-00356864-00357239 uh prior to this it was not possible so qyJXwPiL-OQ-01511-00357240-00357454 i could talk about the weather but it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01512-00357455-00357567 would not make sense qyJXwPiL-OQ-01513-00357568-00357806 for you but if i talk about sms check-in qyJXwPiL-OQ-01514-00357807-00357982 you know suddenly it resonates qyJXwPiL-OQ-01515-00357983-00358334 so right so so i think the capacity for qyJXwPiL-OQ-01516-00358335-00358463 co-creation is qyJXwPiL-OQ-01517-00358464-00358719 dependent on the urgency and because of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01518-00358720-00358951 the sheer urgency that we have now qyJXwPiL-OQ-01519-00358952-00359215 i think uh the the demos over themix qyJXwPiL-OQ-01520-00359216-00359415 right the the power of democracy over qyJXwPiL-OQ-01521-00359416-00359454 the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01522-00359455-00359719 pandemic and info damage is failed in qyJXwPiL-OQ-01523-00359720-00359910 the same urgency in pretty much all the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01524-00359911-00360063 democratic polities qyJXwPiL-OQ-01525-00360064-00360382 and that creates a remarkably qyJXwPiL-OQ-01526-00360383-00360578 the word i like to use is the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01527-00360579-00360767 conflict-free qyJXwPiL-OQ-01528-00360768-00361087 replicable data type it's a mass qyJXwPiL-OQ-01529-00361088-00361399 term it's a 10 or crdt it's a qyJXwPiL-OQ-01530-00361400-00361551 mathematics term uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01531-00361552-00361775 it underlies the google doc the google qyJXwPiL-OQ-01532-00361776-00361943 meet the mirror board qyJXwPiL-OQ-01533-00361944-00362103 right it's the mathematical qyJXwPiL-OQ-01534-00362104-00362310 infrastructure that allows us to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01535-00362311-00362510 simultaneously make edits qyJXwPiL-OQ-01536-00362511-00362727 and just like bitcoin arrive on some qyJXwPiL-OQ-01537-00362728-00362934 consensus that is consistent qyJXwPiL-OQ-01538-00362935-00363263 across fairly trusting uh parties qyJXwPiL-OQ-01539-00363264-00363582 and without the crdts most of our time qyJXwPiL-OQ-01540-00363583-00363758 in the battle days uh inversion qyJXwPiL-OQ-01541-00363759-00363910 controlling open source qyJXwPiL-OQ-01542-00363911-00364230 is spent on resolving conflicts is spent qyJXwPiL-OQ-01543-00364231-00364271 on qyJXwPiL-OQ-01544-00364272-00364558 the escalation and if you think about it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01545-00364559-00364758 de-escalation is what you do qyJXwPiL-OQ-01546-00364759-00365078 if the bit rate of democracy is less qyJXwPiL-OQ-01547-00365079-00365334 than that of conflict uh you're qyJXwPiL-OQ-01548-00365335-00365510 basically playing catch-up qyJXwPiL-OQ-01549-00365511-00365910 right a batch catch up to to de-escalate qyJXwPiL-OQ-01550-00365911-00366158 but if you do have a higher bid rate for qyJXwPiL-OQ-01551-00366159-00366327 co-creation and democracy qyJXwPiL-OQ-01552-00366328-00366495 then you experience the kind of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01553-00366496-00366743 conflict-free replicable qyJXwPiL-OQ-01554-00366744-00366951 because of the universal broadband qyJXwPiL-OQ-01555-00366952-00367078 express fast qyJXwPiL-OQ-01556-00367079-00367327 data type and that's i think is the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01557-00367328-00367406 foundation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01558-00367407-00367630 for the kind of the the radical civics qyJXwPiL-OQ-01559-00367631-00367815 that you just described because qyJXwPiL-OQ-01560-00367816-00368063 without which there's no motivation for qyJXwPiL-OQ-01561-00368064-00368263 people to participate in it and this qyJXwPiL-OQ-01562-00368264-00368415 system does not bootstrap qyJXwPiL-OQ-01563-00368416-00368639 without the initial participation across qyJXwPiL-OQ-01564-00368640-00368878 all the different sectors qyJXwPiL-OQ-01565-00368879-00369127 exactly and just to keep building with qyJXwPiL-OQ-01566-00369128-00369230 that so qyJXwPiL-OQ-01567-00369231-00369495 one of the things that's that i think is qyJXwPiL-OQ-01568-00369496-00369615 challenging is too qyJXwPiL-OQ-01569-00369616-00369815 too often in many conversations we tend qyJXwPiL-OQ-01570-00369816-00370103 to look for consensus systems qyJXwPiL-OQ-01571-00370104-00370303 um so whether it's through qyJXwPiL-OQ-01572-00370304-00370551 representation or through voting qyJXwPiL-OQ-01573-00370552-00370775 and actually consensus systems in qyJXwPiL-OQ-01574-00370776-00370951 complex and measured environments are qyJXwPiL-OQ-01575-00370952-00371078 really problematic qyJXwPiL-OQ-01576-00371079-00371310 because there is no single consensus it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01577-00371311-00371502 is contextually variant qyJXwPiL-OQ-01578-00371503-00371751 so co-creation allows for as you said qyJXwPiL-OQ-01579-00371752-00371847 the simple qyJXwPiL-OQ-01580-00371848-00372078 internet principle where if two people qyJXwPiL-OQ-01581-00372079-00372151 can agree qyJXwPiL-OQ-01582-00372152-00372295 then actually there's a concern it's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01583-00372296-00372519 good enough that's right exactly qyJXwPiL-OQ-01584-00372520-00372671 and and it deals with the problem of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01585-00372672-00372934 complexity not through representation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01586-00372935-00373158 or group think or group consensus but qyJXwPiL-OQ-01587-00373159-00373351 actually through a new form of public qyJXwPiL-OQ-01588-00373352-00373447 accountability qyJXwPiL-OQ-01589-00373448-00373654 through the in principle the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01590-00373655-00373806 transparency process qyJXwPiL-OQ-01591-00373807-00373943 so there's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01592-00373944-00374671 [Music] qyJXwPiL-OQ-01593-00374672-00374982 which changes the models of legitimacy qyJXwPiL-OQ-01594-00374983-00375287 from being the vote through being open qyJXwPiL-OQ-01595-00375288-00375660 transparent qyJXwPiL-OQ-01596-00375661-00375878 [Music] qyJXwPiL-OQ-01597-00375879-00376143 exactly exactly because uh in previous qyJXwPiL-OQ-01598-00376144-00376391 literature on deliberative democracy qyJXwPiL-OQ-01599-00376392-00376647 uh representativeness uh is seen as qyJXwPiL-OQ-01600-00376648-00376799 important to legitimacy qyJXwPiL-OQ-01601-00376800-00376975 and therefore you're either obtained qyJXwPiL-OQ-01602-00376976-00377158 through the vote or through the random qyJXwPiL-OQ-01603-00377159-00377239 sortation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01604-00377240-00377510 both dates back to ancient greece qyJXwPiL-OQ-01605-00377511-00377630 however qyJXwPiL-OQ-01606-00377631-00377982 this way of working is essentially qyJXwPiL-OQ-01607-00377983-00378102 self-selection qyJXwPiL-OQ-01608-00378103-00378310 uh people who are interested former qyJXwPiL-OQ-01609-00378311-00378439 adocracy qyJXwPiL-OQ-01610-00378440-00378663 and explore but share with the society qyJXwPiL-OQ-01611-00378664-00378830 through open innovation and so on the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01612-00378831-00379030 internet governance model qyJXwPiL-OQ-01613-00379031-00379327 but self-selection uh really is just a qyJXwPiL-OQ-01614-00379328-00379391 kind of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01615-00379392-00379702 lens uh through which that the public qyJXwPiL-OQ-01616-00379703-00379943 administration and existing uh policy qyJXwPiL-OQ-01617-00379944-00380047 infrastructure qyJXwPiL-OQ-01618-00380048-00380263 understand the kind of co-creation we're qyJXwPiL-OQ-01619-00380264-00380351 talking here qyJXwPiL-OQ-01620-00380352-00380599 uh in our world is called the end-to-end qyJXwPiL-OQ-01621-00380600-00380663 principle qyJXwPiL-OQ-01622-00380664-00380919 right uh it's not called self-selection qyJXwPiL-OQ-01623-00380920-00381015 yeah qyJXwPiL-OQ-01624-00381016-00381175 and and so if we keep building with it qyJXwPiL-OQ-01625-00381176-00381375 the integrity of that process so qyJXwPiL-OQ-01626-00381376-00381695 i remember when we spoke last time qyJXwPiL-OQ-01627-00381696-00381895 now that you were talking about why you qyJXwPiL-OQ-01628-00381896-00382095 keep these recordings because it's an qyJXwPiL-OQ-01629-00382096-00382247 integrity principle qyJXwPiL-OQ-01630-00382248-00382430 it allows you to show integrity in terms qyJXwPiL-OQ-01631-00382431-00382591 of anyone who can say alive now the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01632-00382592-00382695 future is watching qyJXwPiL-OQ-01633-00382696-00383023 yes basically exactly so qyJXwPiL-OQ-01634-00383024-00383367 so the governance becomes less about um qyJXwPiL-OQ-01635-00383368-00383599 representation and control but more qyJXwPiL-OQ-01636-00383600-00383815 about integrity of behavior qyJXwPiL-OQ-01637-00383816-00384078 and actually you know not enforcing but qyJXwPiL-OQ-01638-00384079-00384239 certainly encouraging and feedbacking qyJXwPiL-OQ-01639-00384240-00384399 that integrity qyJXwPiL-OQ-01640-00384400-00384575 so there's a new theory of governance qyJXwPiL-OQ-01641-00384576-00384767 that starts their national system qyJXwPiL-OQ-01642-00384768-00384934 and the role of government less is about qyJXwPiL-OQ-01643-00384935-00385199 control or representation but actually qyJXwPiL-OQ-01644-00385200-00385439 integrity organization and building qyJXwPiL-OQ-01645-00385440-00385606 integrity in the system through feedback qyJXwPiL-OQ-01646-00385607-00385767 not necessarily through control qyJXwPiL-OQ-01647-00385768-00385999 i think feedback and nobody becomes very qyJXwPiL-OQ-01648-00386000-00386078 powerful qyJXwPiL-OQ-01649-00386079-00386375 mechanisms can you see i mean are you qyJXwPiL-OQ-01650-00386376-00386558 seeing some of that stuff happen in your qyJXwPiL-OQ-01651-00386559-00386599 government qyJXwPiL-OQ-01652-00386600-00386871 leadership yeah definitely definitely uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01653-00386872-00386934 and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01654-00386935-00387223 i resonate well uh with the part uh that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01655-00387224-00387487 says relationship uh takes the front qyJXwPiL-OQ-01656-00387488-00387806 uh seat uh in the radical civics design qyJXwPiL-OQ-01657-00387807-00387878 because qyJXwPiL-OQ-01658-00387879-00388191 uh indeed relationship um qyJXwPiL-OQ-01659-00388192-00388415 lives through our interactions and and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01660-00388416-00388495 they are qyJXwPiL-OQ-01661-00388496-00388815 really uh what we're here for right qyJXwPiL-OQ-01662-00388816-00389063 uh and and to to call them a human qyJXwPiL-OQ-01663-00389064-00389191 capital or whatever qyJXwPiL-OQ-01664-00389192-00389439 uh relational capital is kind of a qyJXwPiL-OQ-01665-00389440-00389582 perverse category qyJXwPiL-OQ-01666-00389583-00389806 uh because um they they are in a sense qyJXwPiL-OQ-01667-00389807-00390030 the agent here and then we are just qyJXwPiL-OQ-01668-00390031-00390239 the vehicle through which the agency of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01669-00390240-00390382 relationships happen qyJXwPiL-OQ-01670-00390383-00390630 uh and and once uh that view is taken qyJXwPiL-OQ-01671-00390631-00390854 then you get into much easier qyJXwPiL-OQ-01672-00390855-00391167 uh co-creation and this is uh why i keep qyJXwPiL-OQ-01673-00391168-00391254 saying that the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01674-00391255-00391454 mandarin word gong shi or good enough qyJXwPiL-OQ-01675-00391455-00391582 consensus uh qyJXwPiL-OQ-01676-00391583-00391847 or common understanding really uh is qyJXwPiL-OQ-01677-00391848-00391919 basically qyJXwPiL-OQ-01678-00391920-00392158 something that's a life that lives qyJXwPiL-OQ-01679-00392159-00392254 through us qyJXwPiL-OQ-01680-00392255-00392543 but the english word consensus is too qyJXwPiL-OQ-01681-00392544-00392591 fine qyJXwPiL-OQ-01682-00392592-00392799 it's it's just a contract that people qyJXwPiL-OQ-01683-00392800-00393006 sign and and so i always qyJXwPiL-OQ-01684-00393007-00393215 modify it as in the internet governance qyJXwPiL-OQ-01685-00393216-00393463 tradition rough consensus or good enough qyJXwPiL-OQ-01686-00393464-00393654 consensus as i'm i'm mostly qyJXwPiL-OQ-01687-00393655-00393999 saying nowadays and and if we go qyJXwPiL-OQ-01688-00394000-00394239 with your relationships part it means qyJXwPiL-OQ-01689-00394240-00394415 that the idea of identity qyJXwPiL-OQ-01690-00394416-00394767 is less about me and my certainty qyJXwPiL-OQ-01691-00394768-00395023 but almost a function of uh the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01692-00395024-00395095 hydrobird qyJXwPiL-OQ-01693-00395096-00395302 uncertainty of relationships almost a qyJXwPiL-OQ-01694-00395303-00395478 cluster of relationships qyJXwPiL-OQ-01695-00395479-00395799 that allow me to that that correlate on qyJXwPiL-OQ-01696-00395800-00395863 me qyJXwPiL-OQ-01697-00395864-00396015 that's right that's right yeah our qyJXwPiL-OQ-01698-00396016-00396199 shared experience basically this qyJXwPiL-OQ-01699-00396200-00396391 mirror board is alive and we're just qyJXwPiL-OQ-01700-00396392-00396558 it's tentacles sorry vehicles qyJXwPiL-OQ-01701-00396559-00396830 yeah exactly so where's current thesis qyJXwPiL-OQ-01702-00396831-00397023 on identity always about is a qyJXwPiL-OQ-01703-00397024-00397254 single proof ground truth or the idea of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01704-00397255-00397391 a ground truth or qyJXwPiL-OQ-01705-00397392-00397519 whereas actually what you want to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01706-00397520-00397758 embrace is not ground truth but your qyJXwPiL-OQ-01707-00397759-00397982 idea of rough consensus of identity qyJXwPiL-OQ-01708-00397983-00398191 in a way which is a function of multiple qyJXwPiL-OQ-01709-00398192-00398382 relationships correlating around that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01710-00398383-00398527 and that starts to build a completely qyJXwPiL-OQ-01711-00398528-00398734 different thesis of identity formation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01712-00398735-00399095 or overlapping relationship but yes yes qyJXwPiL-OQ-01713-00399096-00399278 okay because i think these conceptual qyJXwPiL-OQ-01714-00399279-00399423 frames are quite critical qyJXwPiL-OQ-01715-00399424-00399671 because they will underpin how we build qyJXwPiL-OQ-01716-00399672-00399830 some of the root structures qyJXwPiL-OQ-01717-00399831-00399975 that are necessary for this for the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01718-00399976-00400134 story i really appreciate it i'm sorry qyJXwPiL-OQ-01719-00400135-00400327 i'm hugging up so much time and so qyJXwPiL-OQ-01720-00400328-00400687 no it's fine yeah unfortunately like i qyJXwPiL-OQ-01721-00400688-00400839 feel like we could have a few hours of qyJXwPiL-OQ-01722-00400840-00401015 this conversation and we're barely qyJXwPiL-OQ-01723-00401016-00401151 scratching the first qyJXwPiL-OQ-01724-00401152-00401334 surface but we already asked for qyJXwPiL-OQ-01725-00401335-00401502 10-minute express so i feel like we qyJXwPiL-OQ-01726-00401503-00401775 unfortunately had to conclude so i'll qyJXwPiL-OQ-01727-00401776-00401854 leave it to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01728-00401855-00402271 find for the last few words qyJXwPiL-OQ-01729-00402272-00402534 yeah thank you so much for um everyone's qyJXwPiL-OQ-01730-00402535-00402582 time qyJXwPiL-OQ-01731-00402583-00402847 and we really appreciate this qyJXwPiL-OQ-01732-00402848-00403071 conversation that were happening qyJXwPiL-OQ-01733-00403072-00403278 that is happening right now and feel qyJXwPiL-OQ-01734-00403279-00403502 like we we probably should have more qyJXwPiL-OQ-01735-00403503-00403567 time qyJXwPiL-OQ-01736-00403568-00403895 um next time or we can have like a flu qyJXwPiL-OQ-01737-00403896-00404087 we'll we'll always feel like that no qyJXwPiL-OQ-01738-00404088-00404406 matter how many hours qyJXwPiL-OQ-01739-00404407-00404710 so um i think this mirror ball will just qyJXwPiL-OQ-01740-00404711-00404839 keep open qyJXwPiL-OQ-01741-00404840-00405206 and and if anyone wanna qyJXwPiL-OQ-01742-00405207-00405519 um like add anything to it or raise any qyJXwPiL-OQ-01743-00405520-00405687 questions i think we will just qyJXwPiL-OQ-01744-00405688-00405871 leave it open and people still can qyJXwPiL-OQ-01745-00405872-00406078 interact um our mirror qyJXwPiL-OQ-01746-00406079-00406351 i'm really sorry that we went over time qyJXwPiL-OQ-01747-00406352-00406599 that's fine qyJXwPiL-OQ-01748-00406600-00406799 yeah so i think for the next steps qyJXwPiL-OQ-01749-00406800-00406975 probably we will just continue to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01750-00406976-00407047 develop qyJXwPiL-OQ-01751-00407048-00407375 um the thinking about this and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01752-00407376-00407751 um and think about like the essentials qyJXwPiL-OQ-01753-00407752-00407895 that we can qyJXwPiL-OQ-01754-00407896-00408063 create because we also don't want to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01755-00408064-00408247 just um stay qyJXwPiL-OQ-01756-00408248-00408678 um in the space of um theoretical qyJXwPiL-OQ-01757-00408679-00408999 um kind of arguments but qyJXwPiL-OQ-01758-00409000-00409375 wanting to see how that future um qyJXwPiL-OQ-01759-00409376-00409622 can be realized through distributed qyJXwPiL-OQ-01760-00409623-00409695 actions qyJXwPiL-OQ-01761-00409696-00409959 like we we were become like conscious qyJXwPiL-OQ-01762-00409960-00410055 about qyJXwPiL-OQ-01763-00410056-00410374 um us we don't want to be qyJXwPiL-OQ-01764-00410375-00410703 the the holder of this conversation qyJXwPiL-OQ-01765-00410704-00410918 even though we are initiating this but qyJXwPiL-OQ-01766-00410919-00411055 we want to make sure that qyJXwPiL-OQ-01767-00411056-00411230 there's a space for everyone in the qyJXwPiL-OQ-01768-00411231-00411510 society to be able to tap into the space qyJXwPiL-OQ-01769-00411512-00411687 and develop things further qyJXwPiL-OQ-01770-00411688-00411863 and so we're still experimenting what qyJXwPiL-OQ-01771-00411864-00412047 would be the best way to qyJXwPiL-OQ-01772-00412047-00412382 keep the different conversations flow qyJXwPiL-OQ-01773-00412383-00412710 and and even people from different qyJXwPiL-OQ-01774-00412712-00412863 conversations can have qyJXwPiL-OQ-01775-00412864-00413230 a conversation um in a different space qyJXwPiL-OQ-01776-00413231-00413534 so we'll definitely keep in touch qyJXwPiL-OQ-01777-00413535-00413822 with you of course well live long and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01778-00413823-00413878 prosper qyJXwPiL-OQ-01779-00413879-00414207 then bye thank you so much audrey and qyJXwPiL-OQ-01780-00414208-00414487 thank you everyone for joining us qyJXwPiL-OQ-01781-00414488-00414775 thank you