And when I have conversations with people, I remember having a conversation, for example, in Iraq, with a community that asked me whether the riot we were seeing in front of us, this was a huge mob ransacking a provincial council building, was a sign of the new democracy.
И беседуя с людьми, я вспоминаю свой разговор, например, в Ираке, где собравшиеся жители спросили меня, представляет ли разъярённая толпа, крушившая неподалёку от нас здание местной администрации, символ новой демократии.