And then other people will say, "No, actually, the big stories, the big developments are the founding of the world's major religions, which have changed civilizations and have changed and influenced how countless people are living their lives." And then some other folk will say, "Actually, what changes civilizations, what modifies them and what changes people's lives are empires, so the great developments in human history are stories of conquest and of war." And then some cheery soul usually always pipes up and says, "Hey, don't forget about plagues!"
А третьи вспомнят: « Вообще-то, цивилизации и жизни людей меняются под воздействием империй, поэтому великими в истории человечества были завоевания и войны ».