Stanford EricaERICA STANFORD (National—East Coast Bays): Thank you Mr Chair. I would remind the Minister that it is possible to have a streamlined system with a lack of bureaucracy and red tape and still reduce migrant exploitation. Despite what he says we can have the best of both worlds. In fact migrant exploitation prior to the Accredited Employer Work Visa (AEWV) as most people in the industry and the sector agree if you'd listen to them is far worse now than it has ever been. But my question to the Minister is—he made the claim that businesses who are applying to be accredited must supply information. They must provide information that they have been in business for a year and have good financials. People inside Immigration New Zealand have been stating very clearly that of the people that they have been checking—this is the Accredited Employer Risk Management and Review (AERMR) team which I'm sure the Minister's aware of that have done these 516 post-accreditation checks out of 27000. They have found that most of them have not provided any details have not provided financials have not provided any evidence that they have been working for 12 months. So while the Minister says it should happen the point is that because Immigration New Zealand has been under so much pressure to get things done so quickly they have not been following those rules—if they are rules. I know and the Minister may know well that most of these businesses are getting their accreditation through in just a number of days which looks good for the Government but in fact when you delve down into it they are not providing the information that they're supposed to. And now for two years they have licence to bring in migrants at the cost for the migrant of tens of thousands of dollars. When they arrive here they say I'm sorry; there's no job for you." or employ them for a week or two and then say "Your job is over." and then bring in more migrants. Has the Minister been contacted by any immigration lawyers from big immigration law firms in the last few weeks who have made these claims and advised him of exactly this and has he responded to them? So that's a question.The other question is: is he aware of the fact that the AERMR team are now finding that most of the businesses that they are checking have not provided that information at all? And is he concerned that the 99 percent of businesses who have not been checked at all yet may be in this very same boat—or many of them may be—where they have not provided any financial information or any documentation and they're now given a licence for two years before they have to be reaccredited to bring in migrants make a whole lot of money dismiss them and then bring in new migrants? It just goes round and round and round—tens of thousands of dollars for each migrant like I say.The second question to the Minister is around the new visas that have been set up to help migrant exploitation. So the migrant exploitation visa which many migrants who I spoke to are on—and they say to me that the problem with that visa is they can't find work. They are forced to work under the table. They are effectively being exploited on an exploitation visa and then it is very difficult for them in the current circumstances—and there are thousands of these people in the country who have been bought in and been exploited—to find a job for $29.66 the median wage which they're required to do to get themselves back on an AEWV visa. Many of these migrants I spoke to are having their migrant exploitation visas run out in the next month or two. What is going to happen to them Mr Little? Because they have spent and have huge debts overseas for tens of thousands of dollars. Migrants from all over the world have these huge debts. They're trapped here. They're on a migrant exploitation visa. They can't get themselves onto an AEWV because no one will employ them at $29.66 or they were brought in with no skills anyway so they've got nothing to do. They are going to become illegal and then they're going to be ripe for even more exploitation.They are in very very dire circumstances. The Minister needs to take this seriously. It's been reported every single day. It is worse than we have ever seen. All of the big law firms all of the immigration agents Anu Kaloti the whole of the Opposition know that this is as bad as it has ever been—much much worse. The Minister just doesn't seem to be understanding the problem and taking it seriously."