4. Question No. 4—Prime MinisterDAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT) to the Prime MinisterQuestion No. 4—Prime Minister4. DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT) to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all her statements and actions regarding the Government's response to COVID-19?Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN (Prime Minister): Yes including our announcement yesterday that the Government has guaranteed that every New Zealander will have access to the Pfizer vaccine after securing an additional 8.5 million doses. This brings our total Pfizer order to 10 million doses or enough for 5 million people to get two shots of the vaccine needed to fully vaccinate against COVID-19.David Seymour: Did the Government officials confirm that every person connected to the Papatoetoe cluster who was required to self-isolate actually was self-isolating and if not why not?Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: Certainly there was the confidence that they'd communicated with members of the community because that was happening not just through the public health units but through the school itself. And of course the high turnout of school members for testing—which obviously was over a thousand—demonstrated a level of confidence that those messages had got through.David Seymour: Point of order. Mr Speaker the question was about confirming whether people were self-isolating. The Standing Orders are very clear that there needn't be arguments or imputations other than those necessary to answer the question. The level of vaccination is completely irrelevant from confirming isolation.SPEAKER: I think there was probably some additional information given by the Prime Minister. That's not against the Standing Orders.David Seymour: Thank you Mr Speaker but point of order. My question was—had she addressed the question. I agree with you; she said more than she needed to—SPEAKER: She did address it right at the beginning.David Seymour: OK I'll have to accept your ruling Mr Speaker.SPEAKER: Good.David Seymour: Was every close contact in the Papatoetoe cluster contact traced and told by officials to self-isolate within 48 hours and if not why not?Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: My recollection of course is that those defined as close contacts in that case were the 31 class members and yes we returned those results relatively quickly. You'll remember from that we had one positive result. Then for the rest of the wider school community yes they were all of course asked to go home isolate—or stay home indeed because it was the 14 February and a Sunday; stay home isolate and be tested. The point I was making in the answer to my first question is that the high number of individuals who then presented for testing demonstrated the confidence that officials had that those messages were getting through.Chris Bishop: Is it the Government position that comments made by the Unite against COVID-19 Facebook page should not be relied on and if that's the case why should the public have any faith in the substantive comments posted by that Facebook page? Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: No.David Seymour: Does the Prime Minister anticipate any kind of reprimand or penalty of case L for failing to follow rules that they were made aware of by the Government?Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: In fact thank you—I thank the member; this is an opportunity I think to correct one of the statements that was made during the opening back and forth. I was asked at some point whether or not—at the bidding and urging I think of some Opposition members for people to be prosecuted. The point that I made was that although those aren't decisions for any member of the Government it's wrong to assume that people don't feel the consequences of when these issues happen. No one here has ever said anyone has deliberately ignored advice or not taken heed of the advice that has been given. But the idea of when a mistake happens or an error happens that there isn't consequence—I think people feel that acutely. The idea that a fine somehow changes the experience people have where things go wrong I think is wrong. People do feel that consequence deeply.David Seymour: Is the Prime Minister saying that the person's inviting the judgment of the whole country from the highest podium of the land when case L has no platform from which to defend themselves is enough of a consequence and fines aren't necessary?Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: No no. What I'm saying is this idea that we somehow improve an environment and create an environment where people will go out and willingly be tested or tell our contact tracers the truth—the idea that that is enhanced by fines or indeed prosecutions I think is a really debatable point and ultimately those aren't decisions we make. But we all have to make sure we try and create an environment where people know how important it is to follow the rules to get tested when we ask for testing to occur and to give all the information to our contact tracers.Chris Bishop: Has she investigated how and why what she now says is incorrect information was posted by the Unite against COVID-19 Facebook page?Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: I think the member needs to give the context here. There was a discussion on a thread as I understand and then someone replied in response to that. So the point that I'm making to the member is the idea that we would communicate important information to an individual family who is required to isolate in that form is not accurate. Of course the expectation is that they would receive it directly either through for instance the school or through a public health unit. Obviously we've acknowledged here that the post in that comment section was not correct.