Goldsmith PaulHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (National): Thank you Madam Chair. I suppose I have just a few more questions around the whole engager representative that as far as I'm aware there's only sort of one floating around at the moment and that's the Screen Production and Development Association. There may be some others that come along. Who knows? But they haven't involved themselves in these sorts of negotiations at all. So I suppose I'm just trying to think how the Minister thinks this is going to work if there were five different occupational negotiations started—one for the extras one's for the camera people another one for the writers another one for the main actors and another one's for the stunt people; I mean you could have half a dozen under way you could have a whole lot of enterprise-based ones as well—all requiring a completely new skill set for the industry to do this sort of stuff and an enormous amount of work and cost. I'm just struggling as to why the Minister thinks this is a great idea and a useful thing to do at the moment at a time when the industry is just again blinking its eyes just coming out of the COVID crisis struggling with shortages of workers struggling to get access to people to do the basic job that they want to get done wondering what's going to happen when Willie Jackson fiddles around with the TVNZ - Radio New Zealand merger and New Zealand On Air and what that all means trying to figure out a whole bunch of other stuff and somehow it's got to deal with what could be multiple occupational proposals put forward. As we'll go through all the other parts—and I'm sure the poor people who are tuning into this will be struggling to stay awake and it just goes on page after page after page of rules and regulation and dispute processes and challenges and this that and the other thing; page after page after page adding time and cost and frustration and gunging up the system and distracting people in the sector away from getting on with the job at hand.But in particular given the current sort of smallness of the industry bodies and how they operate how on earth does the Minister think that they're going to be able to cope if there is half a dozen of these things initiated pretty quickly? Does he think his $50000 is going to sort of cover the cost in any way shape or thing when the authority starts its long process? And then once it gets to the authority—this is the Employment Relations Authority—of course as we know I think the average waiting time is about a year and a half for them to get round to dealing with a personal grievance. I don't know how it's going to get round to dealing with these things in a timely fashion. Does he have any indication from them that they are going to get to these things within a year or two? He'll probably have 30-day turn-around somewhere on page 500 of this bill. But will they be like the many city councils around the country that have perfected the art of just asking for a little bit more information on day 29 and then starting another 30 days and then they've perfected the art of extracting these things or coming up with reasons why they don't have to meet the deadline? So I'd be interested to know how he thinks it's going to work in terms of that which will again drag things out and make it even more difficult.So the broad sort of picture I'm developing here and one which I think will be of concern to many in the sector though they won't mention it presumably because they are conscious of the fact that so much of their existence depends on the good will of the Government of the day and this Government has shown itself to be pretty rough with people who disagree with it and so that's always in the back of the mind of everybody—but how are they going to actually do this and how is it going to actually help the sector right at this time?I did ask him a little bit earlier and he didn't answer whether or not he'd received any correspondence or a letter from people in the sector pleading for a bit more time and asking him not to do this right now.