Williams Poto: Urgent Debates — Roast Busters Case—Independent Police Conduct Authority ReportText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilliams Poto: Urgent Debates — Roast Busters Case—Independent Police Conduct Authority Report[Sitting date: 19 March 2015. Volume:704;Page:2456. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]POTO WILLIAMS (Labour—Christchurch East): What do victims need to obtain justice in the New Zealand police system? What do victims need? They need timeliness they need compassion they need to feel like they have been heard they need not to be revictimised and once they have told their story to the police they need the police to take action on their behalf. Did the victims in this case receive justice?The police received reports of concern about four separate incidents of the alleged sexual conduct involving the group between late 2011 and 2013. The police were aware of the group at least 2 years before the media attention broke. Later in November of 2013 the police and Child Youth and Family commissioned a joint investigation project Operation Clover and the initial analysis of the various social media comments showed that there were at least 30 girls suspected to have been involved with this group and that seven of them had made formal complaints. How is that timely? In December 2013 the Independent Police Conduct Authority was notified by the police of the complaint made by a young woman regarding the police handling of a sexual assault complaint that she had already made to the police back in November 2011—and the authority was already aware of the incident. Where was the compassion in that? In late October 2014 the police conducted Operation Clover. None of the police investigations resulted in criminal charges being laid by police against members of the group. Did the victims feel that they had been heard?The victims of this were children—they were children. Every time the media shows a story or replays any of the action it is evident that the police were handling this badly. Does that mean that the victims were heard? Does that mean that the police took action as they were required to do? Some of the victims did not feel comfortable with continuing with the investigation. Again I reiterate that these were children and it was not a requirement of the police to investigate—it was not a requirement. Why did they not actually adhere to police policy and investigate even when the victims said they did not want to continue? Let us face it when you are a victim of sexual abuse it takes you a long time to have the courage to go to the police and the expectation you have is that they will act and they will give you justice.I was involved in some research conducted in the family violence sector that showed categorically that up to 85 percent of victims of family violence are also victims of sexual violence—85 percent. If we look at the number of victims of family violence in this country it is an epidemic beyond proportion. If 85 percent of those victims have also been sexually violated we have an epidemic on our hands. The Minister stood in this Chamber tonight and challenged Jacinda Ardern’s claim that the situation indicated a lack of police resource. Well I say to you that Jacinda was being generous because if it is not a lack of resource then it is about attitude and culture—an attitude that sexual predation is OK and an attitude that the police do not care and a culture of indifference—and I for one will not stand for that. Thank you and I wish not to have to speak on this ever again.