Hughes Gareth; Tolley AnneGARETH HUGHES (Green): Kia ora Madam Chair Tolley. Ngā mihi nui ki a koutou kia ora. I rise to support this legislation. It's an admirable effort this Parliament is doing to modernise our communications legislation—17 Government departments are covered by this legislation.Now I want to confine my comments to the copyright provisions in Part 3 of this legislation because it's something I've got a bit of experience with in this House with the Copyright (Infringing File Sharing) Amendment Act and we've got the copyright review going through at the moment. There are a few key questions that arise in this legislation. Now it's admirable this Parliament is trying to clarify how email communiqué should be used because when it comes to copyright you've got basically two sides of the debate or two sides of the relationship. So a copyright owner has to notice that their copyright has been infringed and then send a notice to the relevant agencies and then the appropriate mechanisms are invoked under the Copyright Act 1994. In Part 3 what we see is that by amending section 136A of the existing Copyright Act the chief executive may suspend notice. Now I want to read this out—it's in clause 51—because it is kind of quite tricky language: (4) In the absence of proof to the contrary written advice that is emailed to a person must be treated as received by the person on the second working day after the date on which it is emailed and in proving that the advice was emailed it is sufficient to prove that the advice was properly addressed and sent to the email address." Now if memory serves me correctly the existing older legislation had a 20-working-day period.It's correct that we're allowing emails as a valid form of formal communications and here you've got two days to consider it read but my question to the Minister in the chair Tracey Martin is: what happens when it goes to the spam filter? I bet every member in this House has spent more than two days replying to a constituent's email or an email from your party. Now I'm embarrassed to say that I'm in that category—taking far too long to reply. Is two days the appropriate mechanism? What does happen in the case of a spam filter? Where would you go? Where is the appropriate agency to I guess have it considered—if it's appropriate or not?I guess it's more on a different side but down at clause 53 which is amending section 139 of the Copyright Act it's basically clarifying around fax numbers. Now far from me to tell the Government about legislation but is it appropriate to be modernising legislation by including references to faxes in 2017? I remember when I first entered Parliament nearly eight years ago the fax number was assiduously printed on the bottom of my business card—I wouldn't even know where the fax machine is in my office. So while we're doing the modernisation project of legislation should we be including references to faxes? And if there are any statistics on how many fax machines are still in operation in New Zealand that would be useful.What we are talking about with the Copyright Act is severe penalties including financial and criminal. When it comes to the provisions that haven't been enacted by the Government we've actually got the powers under the Copyright (Infringing File Sharing) Amendment Act to terminate internet customers' internet access. Now I think that's an egregious step that goes far beyond the bounds but when it counts on sending notices a warning detection notice via email we need to make sure that those people—I think there's been about 13 or maybe 17 cases under that existing legislation popularly known as the "Skynet Act" that've been applied. In some cases we've actually seen people serving overseas in the New Zealand Defence Force served with these detection notices. So it's important as we modernise our legislation and the way Government departments interact with each other and with New Zealand citizens that we've got the appropriate rules in place to deal with these important questions. Kia ora koutou.The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): I call the Hon Tracey Watkins."