Penk ChrisCHRIS PENK (National—Kaipara ki Mahurangi): Thank you very much Mr Chair. I couldn't help but notice last night the Minister said how pleased he was to see you in the Chair—you were promptly replaced by a colleague and he hastily covered himself there of course. And Mr Seymour has praised your role albeit saying you only have to a certain extent as your chairmanship role with Governance and Admin. Flattery will get you everywhere Mr Chair so all I can say is you look particularly well today sir. And thank you for the call and thank you for any subsequent calls you may give me.Just a brief point in my final contribution for this part I'm just drilling down a little bit into that point that very serious conversation actually that's been had across the House regarding delegation and more particularly clause 17(4) whereby the Statistician must publish information about the delegation that that person makes. Presumably the point of that is to provide a level of justification for the delegation but it seems to me strange that the publication of that information only needs to be made when the Statistician is making a delegation other than to an employee of or an individual working as a contractor or a secondi from elsewhere in the State services of Stats New Zealand. So within Stats New Zealand to be able to make a delegation that doesn't actually require any justification in terms of published information about that seems to me actually quite amiss. Now I do accept that this was a point made by the select committee so the Minister to that extent wasn't responsible for its drafting. Others have commented on whether the Minister has placed perhaps too much faith in the majority Government - controlled select committee but I'll leave that for others. Suffice to say though it is important because this is in the Minister's name ultimately this legislation. I do want to hear why we shouldn't have a written justification available to all in the name of accountability where a delegation happens within Stats New Zealand.Hon Dr DAVID CLARK (Minister of Statistics): I think just to put it on record it's very normal for accountability within a department to rest very clearly with the chief executive for all decisions and work done within that department. Having said that I also want to place on record my observation that the chair of the Governance and Administration Committee is hostage to no one—having appeared in front of that committee. But I also wish to place on record because since that process question has been raised the member David Seymour challenged that the chair of that committee with the particular membership was somehow held hostage; I just don't buy that. There is an opportunity for minority views if members strongly disagree. There's all kinds of mechanisms in our democracy for making sure those voices are aired and heard. I think the committee did a really robust and solid job worked through it reached agreement about what the best way forward was. It doesn't mean we shouldn't have the debate now—doesn't mean we shouldn't have the debate now. But I express stronger faith in the members on that committee than perhaps the member does and I do think it's worth putting on record.