O'Rourke DenisDENIS O'ROURKE (NZ First): I want to take issue with what Minister Adams said when she was in the chair concerning the publication of judgments especially in the District Court. She just reiterated what we have been told both in writing and at the Justice and Electoral Committee that there was a resourcing issue. However when you read what we have been told in writing about this it says this about the publication of judgments in the District Court—that the Chief District Court Judge is advancing work to enable significant District Court decisions to be published and the ministry is working closely with her to establish this publishing capacity from next year. So this is obviously imminent. It is going to be possible—there will be resources clearly expected to be available from next year—for at least significant District Court decisions. As Jacinda Ardern said none of us expect that each and every thing that a District Court judge says orally needs to be published on the internet. We do not expect that. That is not what this is about. It is about especially significant District Court decisions the ones that people want to have access to and they need to have access to them either because they are involved or because they are in the Sensible Sentencing Trust or they are in some other organisation that has an interest in these things. So that is all we are asking for. The Minister of Justice tried to tell us that we need to delete all that and go back to the status quo because of resourcing issues and yet the advice we have received from officials is that that work is advancing and that from next year—and that could be January next year for all I know; as early as that—it will be possible to publish online significant District Court decisions. That is all we are asking for. So why is it necessary—and I want to ask the Minister this specifically and I want an answer to it—to delete that whole provision which the Government itself put in originally. Now it is reneging on it on the basis of resources not being available and yet we are told elsewhere that resources are in fact going to be available to enable that to be done next year. So this does not add up—it does not add up at all. We need to get the story straight here. What is it about? People need to have those decisions published online. We have been waiting for this for a very long time. The bill itself sets out to say that it is—one of the purposes of it is about transparency. That is one of the fundamental reasons why this so-called modernisation bill is being presented. It is about transparency. Well now we have the Government reneging on just that—transparency. It is not good enough and by its own advice there will be resources available at least for significant decisions in the District Court next year. This bill will not come into force for a little while yet. By the time the whole process is finished I expect based on that advice the resources to be available to at least enable significant District Court decisions to be published. So I want to hear from the Minister why she is now saying it is not possible when we have been told that it is. That is all it is about. All we want is this law put in place now so that by the time it comes into force next year—as we were told—we are going to be able to see at least significant District Court decisions published online. We are asking for nothing more than that and I want to hear a much better explanation from the Minister than we have had so far—all this waffle about resources when we know it is going to be possible. The point is that the law has to be in place to ensure that it happens when the resources arrive and they are going to be imminent as I have just said. So I want to hear that explanation. I think we all deserve to hear that and so does the public. As I said in my previous speech I have had a number of contacts from members of the public saying how important it is to them to be able to access online District Court decisions especially those that are substantive. Nobody is asking for every tiny little thing that a District Court judge says orally to be published online—nobody has ever asked for that—so that is no excuse either. So finally—once again—please Minister turn up and give us the real deal on this because it does not make sense so far.