Utikere Tangi; O'Connor GregTANGI UTIKERE (Labour—Palmerston North): Thank you Mr Chair. Kia orana. Look it's a pleasure to contribute to this debate that's moving through the committee through urgency at the moment. I want to take a call because I received a message from one of my constituents in Palmerston North that was concerned that the House was using its time where they were not able to have an opportunity to perhaps submit on this process. [Interruption] So I do want to acknowledge the fact—and members opposite might not like the fact that people in electorates are unhappy with this process and that's exactly why we're here tonight at the late hour on their behalf to ask the questions of the Government and to put these issues to the Minister because they have not had an opportunity out in the community to actually put forward their views. But I do want to just put to the Minister. He has responded to some of the issues around the localities and the locality planning but there is still I think an outstanding response from the Minister and I implore him to consider responding which is he has indicated that he has effectively randomly selected a date at some point in the future. It's still not quite clear Minister—in light of some of the feedback and the questions that have been put to you—whether you're still comfortable with that date at some point in time given some of the issues that have been raised. So I think that's still an outstanding point.My colleague Rachel Boyack and also the Hon Willie Jackson touched on some of the transfer of entitlements and there's still an outstanding question around what level of engagement with worker representations and unions has actually been undertaken by the Minister in light of the fact that this will have implications. Now it might appear on face value that these implications might just appear on paper but we are talking about a change in the workplace which may come with a change in the culture in the workplace. And surely there must be an opportunity for those who are going to be directly impacted as new or potentially new employees in a new entity—even though the entity is an existing one—the opportunity to be heard. So I'm just interested around that as well.Minister I note that in terms of the new proposal which is clause 36(1)(b) this is relating to effectively the transfer of assets and the transfer of information. I note that paragraph (b) talks about all of the information and documents that would be held by the Māori Health Authority are effectively held by Health New Zealand. What I'm not quite clear on are two things: one is how that information is securely retained and it might be that it is actually answered in paragraph (d) further down there. But there's no indication about—OK the information might be held by Health New Zealand but what about the access to it? So on what basis can the information be accessed on an ongoing basis and also will the information have some indication that it previously was part of a former entity that no longer exists?The reason why I ask the Minister this is that there are many pieces of information that would be retained—well not retained. It would be obtained by a new entity that might actually have some archival or former relevance. I note that there is reference in this bill that relates to the context unless the context otherwise dictates or indicates.But there is still some uncertainty about not just the retaining of the information but how it is going to be accessed and how it might be used because there are other implications potentially—I don't know. I mean that's why I think it's important Minister. If you were to take a call to respond to that in terms of not just holding the information but how it might be accessed I think that might be quite not just unique but important.So those are the questions that I suggest the Minister may wish to take a call on but I'd be very interested on behalf of the constituents of Palmerston North for a response given that the House is effectively sitting under urgency without an opportunity for scrutiny this evening.CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): The time has come for me to leave the Chair. I'll give the Minister the opportunity to more fully answer that tomorrow. The House will resume at 9 a.m. tomorrow. Thank you for your work tonight.Sitting suspended from 9.59 p.m. to 9 a.m. (Wednesday).