10. Question No. 10—ChildrenDEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader—Te Paati Māori) to the Minister for ChildrenQuestion No. 10—Children10. DEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader—Te Paati Māori) to the Minister for Children: Does he have confidence in the chief executive of Oranga Tamariki following her admission that structural racism is a feature of the care and protection system?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Children): E whakapono ana ahau kua tika ngā whakataunga a te tumuaki o Oranga Tamariki. I rangona ahau he maha ngā kupu mihi e pā ana ki āna whakataunga engari e tika ake ana i te whakapāhatanga. Ko te mea nui rawa mā Oranga Tamariki e whakatika ngā hapa ō mua. Koinei te wero kei mua i a mātou.[I believe the decisions made by the CEO of Oranga Tamariki were correct. I heard many complimentary words about her decisions but it is even more correct due to the apology. The most important point is that Oranga Tamariki corrects the mistakes of the past. This is the challenge before us.]Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: How can he have confidence in the chief executive of Oranga Tamariki when report after report has highlighted serious failings under her watch?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: E whakapono ana ahau ka whai te tumuaki o Oranga Tamariki i ngā tohutohu hei anga whakamua a Oranga Tamariki.[I believe the CEO of Oranga Tamariki will follow the advice so that Oranga Tamariki looks to the future.]Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: How does the Minister intend to unravel the structural racism at Oranga Tamariki as shown in report after report?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Koia taku tino whāinga ki te takahi i te kaikiritanga ki raro ki te whakapanoni i ngā pūnahatanga kia mutu ai te kaikiritanga.[That is my primary goal to stamp out discrimination to transform the systems so that discrimination is ended.]Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Has the Minister read the report of the Children's Commissioner who went as far as to say that the system is so broken that there should be a by Māori for Māori agency established?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Āe.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: How long does the Minister expect tamariki Māori to wait for this Government to get its act together and fix the structural racism at Oranga Tamariki?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Ko te mea nui e hia kē ngā tau kei raro i tērā atu o ngā Kāwanatanga kua haere wēnei āhuatanga? Engari ko tēnei Kāwanatanga e wero ana i wēnei kaupapa.[The main issue is for how many years under that other Government did such things go on? But this Government is challenging these topics.]Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Point of order Mr Speaker. The question wasn't answered.SPEAKER: One of the points of order could've been that it wasn't addressed. There's not a requirement to give an answer to the satisfaction of members in our Standing Orders—possibly unfortunately but you know that is the case. The question was addressed.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Will the Minister accept that presently there is a separatist system running our child care and protection services—Oranga Tamariki is a Pākehā organisation from top to bottom?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Kua tino mārama ahau. Ko tā te mema e taunaki ana ko te huarahi ngāwari noa iho ki te whakawehewehe i ngā pūnaha. He pakeke ake tā mātou e hiahia ana ko te tūmanako ko te rāngai tūmatanui kia whakapakari ai i ngā pūnahatanga hei painga mō te Māori ki te mahi ia rā ia rā i te taha o Ngāi Māori nā te mea kāre e taea e te Karauna te horoi ōna ringaringa i tēnei kaupapa.[I have been very clear. What the member is supporting is merely the easy path to separate the systems. What we want is more difficult that the public sector hopefully strengthens systems for the benefit of Māori to work each and every day alongside the Māori people because the Crown cannot wash its hands of this issue.]