11. Question No. 11—EducationPENNY SIMMONDS (National—Invercargill) to the Minister of EducationQuestion No. 11—Education11. PENNY SIMMONDS (National—Invercargill) to the Minister of Education: Did he receive the Te Pūkenga Programme Business Case in October 2022?SPEAKER: The Hon Grant Robertson.Hon Members: Oh!Hon GRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Prime Minister) on behalf of the Minister of Education: Thank you for the welcome. On behalf of the Minister yes.Penny Simmonds: Did the Te Pūkenga Programme Business Case state an additional almost $1 billion of funding is needed for Te Pūkenga's operating costs that the Government has not budgeted for and if not how much additional funding did the business case say Te Pūkenga needed?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: On behalf of the Minister in answer to the first part of the question no. Penny Simmonds: Does the Minister stand by his Associate Minister's statement that No discussion has been had around co-leadership" or are the leadership roles being advertised on SEEK for all Te Pūkenga regions occurring without the Minister's knowledge?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: On behalf of the Minister I'm not aware of the document that the member was waving in the House just then.Penny Simmonds: Does the Minister agree the role description in the advertisements that "The regional director roles are co-leadership reflecting our Te Pūkenga commitment to Te Tiriti o Waitangi" make explicit that this is co-leadership and if it's not co-leadership what is it?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: On behalf of the Minister as I said in response to the previous supplementary question I don't have that piece of paper that the member is making reference to. I'm sure what we're attempting to do here is appoint leadership teams that are able to reflect all of those in our community.Penny Simmonds: Doesn't the fact that Te Pūkenga needs almost another $1 billion to operate and the advertisements for co-leadership roles show the Minister has set up the vocational education sector to fail and the Government is endorsing co-leadership?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: On behalf of the Minister no. What this process shows is that the Government is actually committed to vocational education and not prepared to put up with what the previous Government did which was to leave close to $100 million worth of bailouts on the books of the incoming Government.Penny Simmonds: Point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave to table the advert for the co-leadership roles.Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: Is it publicly available?SPEAKER: Is it publicly available or is it privately available?Penny Simmonds: Mr Speaker they were put—SPEAKER: No I'm joking. I'm sure it's publicly available so no you can't. Penny Simmonds: Sorry Mr Speaker. Point of order Mr Speaker. They were put on SEEK but they seem to have been taken off perhaps yesterday. They're not now publicly available.SPEAKER: If you can describe it again I will put the leave. So the date—Penny Simmonds: On 10 November they were put up on SEEK and some time over the last day or so they were taken off SEEK. SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is objection. OK it will not be tabled. Further supplementary? Have you got a further supplementary—no."