Bayly Andrew; Tolley AnneANDREW BAYLY (National—Hunua): Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. Before I start I just want to pay homage to the 50 people who were killed in Christchurch and obviously to their families who will still be grieving and troubled by the events of 15 March and that process will go on for quite some time. Whilst the matter of the despicable event may be coming off the headlines in New Zealand I don't think for a moment that this issue is ever going to be dismissed from the consciousness of New Zealanders as it's one that's going to be deeply ingrained in the psyche of New Zealand in the way that we regard ourselves here in this beautiful land. But the time is right now to consider how we best respond to this issue and how this event actually occurred. The first point I want to make is that I think we should acknowledge that New Zealanders are entitled to own firearms provided they do it in a proper and legitimate manner and they act in a safe manner as well. And those rights are very important to all of us in New Zealand and particularly to the firearms owners. I think we also need to recognise that there are sometimes very legitimate reasons for having firearms such as pest control for farmers but also for people who wish to go out hunting and for bona fide collectors.All of those people have a right to own firearms and should have to go through the right processes to have that right. No one ever should dispute that and that's important. But I think the big issue that Christchurch has made us all realise is whether military-style semi-automatic (MSSAs) and semi-automatic guns should have a rightful place in New Zealand. I think witnessing today what's happening in Parliament—and sometimes it's a real privilege to actually hear people and see what's happening today first-hand—is to see how Parliament is coming together on that very issue. I think that is the answer today—and we will see it over the next week or so as we work our way through the elements of this bill—that we do not believe that MSSAs and semi-automatic guns have a rightful place to play in New Zealand.The only issue—and I heard New Zealand First acknowledge it before—is where competition elements may be referred to and it's something that'll be obviously dealt with in the second stage of the reforms. But in the main there is no need for any MSSA or semi-automatic rifle particularly in the context of hunting or whatever.I think also the issue is that if we as a Government are forcing people to surrender these weapons which they've acquired under legitimate purposes I think it's very important that the compensation provisions are fair and equitable because after all these rifles were bought under a previous regime that meant that they were legitimate. So the lack of detail around the reimbursement of firearms is very very important. I think upon passing this bill over the next week we'll make it an absolute requirement that these guns are surrendered. It's absolutely essential also that the fair terms of those are made known to those people as early as possible so that everyone understands what it means if you do surrender those weapons so we get everyone surrendering them voluntarily and that means it needs to be fair representation and fair payment for them.The other thing is that this legislation deals with the issue of the sale of large-scale magazines and accessories and I think that's a very important component. The ability to scale up a semi-automatic machine by putting on it a large magazine is one that should have been addressed and has been addressed in this bill and it's a very important aspect. But I think in supporting this bill it's important to note that this is only a first step towards addressing this issue in New Zealand. The next stages of working through after this initial bit are around making sure that we've got a framework that's fit for purpose in New Zealand and that protects New Zealanders in general but that also affords some protections to rightful and legitimate gun owners to own a rifle and to be able to conduct their use of that rifle in a safe manner—it's very very important. To get that framework there's a lot more work to be worked through and I think we will as a Parliament get to that point and I look forward to participating in that debate.DEPUTY SPEAKER: So this next call is a split call five minutes each. I call the Hon Damien O'Connor.