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Smith Lockwood: Diplomatic Privileges and Immunities Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Smith Lockwood: Diplomatic Privileges and Immunities Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:615;Page:11250] 
The clause basically inserts new section 9AB and it has five subsections and most of what they are doing is reasonably clear. For example subsection (1) deals with issues of members of the delegation and covers the immunities and privileges addressed in the third schedule; subsection 2 covers the issue of I think the fourth schedule and things like servants and staff etc. The fifth schedule is referred to in subsection (3) which covers particular issues that are normal parts of diplomatic immunities and privilege. It covers families that form part of the household of members of delegations. 
But I would appreciate advice from the Minister as to exactly why subsection (5) is necessary. If we look at the original Act section 9(2) is contained in Part 2. Subsection (5) states: “An Order made under section 9(2)(a) in respect of the European Commission may in accordance with this section also confer privileges and immunities on members or on private servants of members of EC delegations”—that is fine—“and nothing in this section limits the application of section 9(2)(b) and (c) to persons associated with the European Commission.” 
 I am a little bit curious about why it is necessary to put that provision in there. Is that subsection (5) inserted there simply to avoid any doubt whatsoever or are we making some change by that? I do not see why new section 9AB particularly changes beyond what is specified the old sections 9(2)(a) (b) and (c) referred to in this new section 9AB. I realise it is a bit confusing with all those sections but I see nothing exceptional about what Supplementary Order Paper 190 is proposing in those new subsections under 9AB(1) (2) (3) and (4). They seem to be quite normal to me. 
The bit that I do not understand—and we have not had this Supplementary Order Paper for more than an hour or so—is why subsection (5) is required there particularly the last bit of it and what it means: “… nothing in this section limits the application of section 9(2)(b) and (c) to persons associated with the European Commission.” If we look at what section 9(2)(b) and (c) does we see that it confers on other persons representatives classes of officers and servants etc. certain privileges and immunities and I do not see why it is necessary to have that provision in this Supplementary Order Paper. 
I must confess that in the limited time we have had available I have tried to work through exactly what is going on there—I have had the statute out—but it is not clear to me. I am sure that if it is not clear to me it will not be clear to many members of the House because it is quite complex. It is worth the Minister in the chair the Hon Marian Hobbs taking the time to explain to members exactly what that provision is doing because it is not absolutely clear on the surface.
Hartley Ann: Care of Children Bill — Instruction to Committee Procedure In Committee 
Hartley Ann: Care of Children Bill — Instruction to Committee Procedure In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:16671] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: Is there any objection to adding one more vote to the Ayes on Mr Smith’s previous amendment? There is not. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 293 in the name of Judith Collins to insert new clause 37B be agreed to.
Vote: Relationships (Statutory References) Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Relationships (Statutory References) Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:624;Page:19090] 
A personal vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 10 
Bradford(P) 
Fitzsimons(P) 
Tanczos(P) 
Teller: 
Donald(P) 
Kedgley(P) 
Turei(P) 
Locke  
Ewen-Street(P) 
Prebble  
Ward(P) 
Noes 102 
Adams  
Donnelly(P) 
Mackey M (P) 
Scott(P) 
Alexander  
Duncan(P) 
Maharey(P) 
Simich(P) 
Anderton(P) 
Dunne  
Mahuta(P) 
Smith L (P) 
Ardern(P) 
Duynhoven  
Mallard(P) 
Smith M 
Baldock  
Dyson(P) 
Mapp(P) 
Smith N (P) 
Barker(P) 
English(P) 
Mark(P) 
Sowry(P) 
Barnett  
Fairbrother(P) 
McCully(P) 
Stewart(P) 
Benson-Pope(P) 
Franks  
McNair  
Sutton(P) 
Beyer  
Gallagher  
Newman  
Swain(P) 
Brash(P) 
Goff(P) 
O'Connor  
Tamihere(P) 
Brown  
Gosche(P) 
Ogilvy(P) 
te Heuheu(P) 
Brownlee(P) 
Goudie(P) 
Okeroa(P) 
Tisch  
Burton  
Gudgeon(P) 
Paraone(P) 
Tizard(P) 
Carter C (P) 
Hartley(P) 
Parker(P) 
Turner  
Carter D (P) 
Hawkins  
Peck(P) 
Williamson(P) 
Carter J (P) 
Heatley(P) 
Perry  
Wilson(P) 
Catchpole(P) 
Hereora  
Peters J (P) 
Wong  
Chadwick(P) 
Hobbs  
Peters W (P) 
Woolerton(P) 
Choudhary(P) 
Hodgson(P) 
Pettis(P) 
Worth(P) 
Clark(P) 
Horomia(P) 
Pillay(P) 
Yates 
Collins(P) 
Hunt(P) 
Power(P) 
Connell(P) 
Hutchison(P) 
Rich(P) 
Copeland(P) 
Jones  
Ririnui  
Cosgrove(P) 
Key(P) 
Robertson(P) 
Cullen(P) 
King(P) 
Robson(P) 
Cunliffe(P) 
Laban(P) 
Ryall(P) 
Teller: 
Dalziel(P) 
Mackey J 
Samuels(P) 
Hughes  
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Nandor Tanczos be agreed to: 
to insert after clause 14 the following new subpart: 
Subpart 2A—Amendments to the Citizenship Act 1977 
14ACitizenship Act 1977 called principal Act in this subpart 
In this subpart the Citizenship Act 1977 is called “the principal Act”. 
14BSpecial provision relating to parentage 
Section 3(1) of the principal Act is amended by inserting after the word “married” the words “or in a civil union partnership”. 
14CGrant of citizenship to spouse or civil union partner of New Zealand citizen 
Section 8A(1) of the principal Act is amended by inserting after the word “married” the words “or a civil union partner”.
Turei Metiria: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Procedure 
Turei Metiria: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:621;Page:17183] 
METIRIA TUREI (Green) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. My apologies; I need to seek leave to correct the Green Party votes that have occurred since 2 p.m. this afternoon from nine votes to eight. My apologies for that. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: That will be corrected. I will read out the new results as soon as they are collated.
Hobbs Marian: Consumer Credit Bill — First Reading 
Hobbs Marian: Consumer Credit Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:606;Page:3526] 
Hon MARIAN HOBBS (Minister for the Environment) 
 on behalf of the 
 Minister of Consumer Affairs 
: I move  
That Consumer Credit Bill be referred to the Commerce Committee. 
 referred to the Commerce Committee
Gosche Mark: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Gosche Mark: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:611;Page:8420] 
Hon MARK GOSCHE (NZ Labour—Maungakiekie) 
: 
 Under ordinary circumstances I would. I am not prepared to withdraw the comments about racism. If I have to leave the House I will do so.
Samuels Dover: Overseas Investment Bill — First Reading 
Samuels Dover: Overseas Investment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:622;Page:18035] 
Hon DOVER SAMUELS (Associate Minister for Economic Development) 
: 
 I rise to support the Overseas Investment Bill. I bring a practical example of why I support this bill. I have listened to a number of claptrap contributions that referred to this idea that if we sell land then all of a sudden somebody will pick it up and take it away. Right next to my bay in the far north there was a marginal farm called Tepene Tablelands. 
The area was about 4000 acres. The majority of the land was covered in gorse and tea tree and 50 percent of it was non-productive. It was owned by two Kiwi farmers and they employed 2½ people. Some years ago an American investor came along and made an offer for the property and despite the ramping and raging of some of the local politicians and of some other politicians the investor actually secured and bought the property. Now 7 years later that property is one of the top international golf courses in the world. It employs some 60 people on a permanent basis and two-thirds of those people are actually related to me and to the leader of New Zealand First. Two-thirds of the people employed are local tangata whenua and they are people who have been trained to do the job. I say that that investment has uplifted the economic destiny of our community. Two-thirds of the employed are local people and a number of them are in managerial positions. Now we have a piece of land that is productive and making a contribution not only to the local economy but to the New Zealand economy. 
That is the reason why I want to stand up and give an example of a practical application of what this bill allows and I want to stick that up the noses of those people who are saying: “blah blah blah blah. We are not going to sell any more land in case somebody comes along and offers X’s of millions of dollars invests in our country and creates jobs for our people.
Gudgeon Bill: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Gudgeon Bill: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:622;Page:17413] 
BILL GUDGEON (NZ First) 
: 
 First of all New Zealand First would like to thank the Minister and those members who were on the Social Services Committee for their contribution to the Social Security (Long-term Residential Care) Amendment Bill. We have all had the opportunity to peruse this bill. Statements concerning promises made by the Labour Government to the elderly have really had a good airing in the House in the last 2 days. There have been concerns raised repeatedly but New Zealand First is here to ensure that our elderly will have the entitlements that they deserve. This bill does not entirely implement what our elderly deserve but it is a step in the right direction. New Zealand First is well aware of the shortcomings of the bill and our advice to the elderly is to be patient as help is on the way. New Zealand First is committed to supporting this bill and the accompanying Supplementary Order Papers bearing in mind that we are not entirely satisfied with all the details. However this legislation is a move in the right direction and has the potential for improvement. I will be brief. New Zealand First urges the Government to bear in mind that not all the elderly are in the same circumstances financially or with regard to assets. If in the future adjustments need to be made we urge the House to look upon the situation sympathetically. New Zealand First supports this bill.
Vote: Fiordland (Te Moana o Atawhenua) Marine  Management Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Fiordland (Te Moana o Atawhenua) Marine  Management Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:625;Page:19890] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 10 
Green Party 9; Maori Party 1. 
Noes 108 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to and schedule 7 agreed to.
Cunliffe David: Local Government (Auckland) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Cunliffe David: Local Government (Auckland) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:616;Page:12475] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Minister of State) 
: 
 That has to be the worst speech I have heard that member give in many a long week in this House. What part of $2 billion does the National Party not understand? For years the National members have been complaining about Auckland’s transport. They have been saying we were not spending enough money on it and now we are doing so. They have been saying the governance arrangements were broken and now they are fixed. They have been saying we should get Auckland moving and now we are doing so. The public is sick to death of an Opposition that does not know the difference between constructive criticism and opposing and moaning for the sake of moaning itself. It has to be said the previous speaker John Key travels around Auckland more than most people. It is a long way from Parnell to Helensville and back again. 
John Key 
: You’re on dangerous ground. 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE 
: At least he is moving against the traffic flow— 
Jill Pettis 
: In his Lexus. 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE 
: —in his Lexus. 
John Key 
: You’re on dangerous ground my friend. 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE 
: That is right. 
This is a very constructive package. It collects in one place and under one governance arrangement the key players under the Auckland Regional Council through the Auckland Regional Transport Authority. It is a constructive move. Why does the National Party not like it? It is because its favourite alumnus now the Mayor of Auckland had his little pet project all sorted out whereby Auckland City could dominate Auckland Regional Transport Network Ltd at the expense of every other territorial authority and it worked just fine for John Banks. Well we have news for him: his eastern highway is bonkers. It will never reach a workable benefit-cost ratio so he should put it to bed now and bury it 6 feet under. He should twin-track the western line so poor John Key does not get stuck in the traffic jam and he should twin-track it all the way to Henderson and Swanson—right now!
Vote: Dog Control Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Dog Control Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:613;Page:9891] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the schedules as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 107 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand National 25; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Noes 8 
ACT New Zealand 8. 
Schedules as amended agreed to. 
Bill reported with amendment.
Brownlee Gerry: Financial Review Debate — Procedure In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Brownlee Gerry: Financial Review Debate — Procedure In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:616;Page:11869] 
GERRY BROWNLEE (Deputy Leader—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. It is not common for these debates to be given a score but tonight I think it is fair to say that this one was 49-39. Well done National! 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: No that is not a point of order. I say to members that I will not tolerate frivolous points of order or interjections that are designed to break up a speech. That is out of order.
Vote: Taxation (Annual Rates Maori Organisations Taxpayer Compliance and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Taxation (Annual Rates Maori Organisations Taxpayer Compliance and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:607;Page:4243] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 71 
Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 46 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 11; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Rodney Hide to clause 103 be agreed to: 
to omit subclauses (1C) and (1D).
Vote: Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Bill — In Committee Procedure Third Reading 
Vote: Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Bill — In Committee Procedure Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:20993] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment to the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 9; United Future 8. 
Noes 62 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Amendment to the amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Tony Ryall to the amendment to clause 16(2) set out on Supplementary Order Paper 374 in the name of the Hon Phil Goff be agreed to: 
to omit from proposed paragraph (ab) subparagraph (iii).
Hobbs Marian: Prisoners' and Victims' Claims Bill — First Reading 
Hobbs Marian: Prisoners' and Victims' Claims Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:622;Page:17999] 
Hon MARIAN HOBBS (Minister for the Environment) 
: 
 I support the first reading of the Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Bill because in the first place it ensures that prisoners can be compensated in only exceptional cases and after exhausting all avenues of complaint; and the second part of the double it provides new opportunities and assistance for victims to pursue compensation from those who have offended against them.
Dunne Peter: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
Dunne Peter: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:613;Page:9968] 
Hon PETER DUNNE (Leader—United Future) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I move  
That the Chairman report progress and ask for leave to sit again 
.
Benson-Pope David: Voting — Correction; General Debates 
Benson-Pope David: Voting — Correction; General Debates 
[Volume:608;Page:5702] 
DAVID BENSON-POPE (Senior Whip—NZ Labour) 
: 
 I did not use the word “you” and reflect on the Speaker.
Urgency 
Urgency 
[Volume:626;Page:20925] 
Urgency 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I move  
That urgency be accorded the passing through its remaining stages of the Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Bill. 
 The motion is moved in order that the bill can be passed in time for its consequences to be considered in relation to a number of cases at present in front of the courts. 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That urgency be accorded 
. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Noes 48 
New Zealand National 26; New Zealand First 13; United Future 8; Maori Party 1. 
Motion agreed to.
Brownlee Gerry: Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi Claims Settlement Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Brownlee Gerry: Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi Claims Settlement Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:627;Page:21918] 
GERRY BROWNLEE (Deputy Leader—National) 
: 
 Clause 1 deals with the title of the bill. There can be no doubt that the words in the title “Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi Claims Settlement” by and large reflect what the bill does. I do not want to argue that the title of the bill should change. What I have to say is that at the end of a very long process we are very disappointed to have been put in a position today where it becomes almost impossible for us to support the passage of this settlement bill. One may ask why I bring that up now. It is because of the use of the very word “settlement” in the title of this bill which is to become an Act. When that is considered alongside schedule 12 then I think that those who have read schedule 12 will begin to see the difficulty that the use of the word “settlement” in the title creates because it confers something upon this particular iwi that is not there for other New Zealanders. We will speak further of that in the third reading debate but I take this moment simply to indicate the difficulty the National Party is currently wrestling with.
Barnett Tim: Christchurch City Council (Robert McDougall Gallery) Land Vesting Bill — Procedure Second Reading 
Barnett Tim: Christchurch City Council (Robert McDougall Gallery) Land Vesting Bill — Procedure Second Reading 
[Volume:611;Page:8776] 
TIM BARNETT (NZ Labour—Christchurch Central) 
: 
 I seek leave for the Christchurch City Council (Robert McDougall Gallery) Land Vesting Bill to proceed directly to its third reading following its being read a second time and for there to be no debate on the third reading.
Smith Nick: Legislation (Incorporation by Reference) Bill — Instruction to Committee Second Reading Instruction to Committee Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Smith Nick: Legislation (Incorporation by Reference) Bill — Instruction to Committee Second Reading Instruction to Committee Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:625;Page:19817] 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson) 
: 
 The Minister in the chair has accepted that there is a flaw on page 15 in that the Government cannot count from 1 to 6. 
Darren Hughes 
: Move on. 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH 
: The seriousness about this is that the Government rushes the Building Act through the Parliament. Before 12 days are up it introduces a 21-page amendment saying “Oops we screwed up. We got it all wrong. Under urgency we have to rush through another amendment but don’t worry we’ve got it all absolutely right.” And then it says: “Sorry we couldn’t count from 1 to 6 and we’ll fix that bit up.” But the Minister has not addressed the substantive part. Clause 3P in the Supplementary Order Paper adds section 241(2) which states that subsection (1) of section 241 is subject to a regional authority’s power under section 244 and does not apply to any function it transfers to another regional authority. That all reads very well except that there is no subsection (1). It does not exist so how can we pass nonsense law that makes a subsection (1) conditional on a paragraph (a) and (b) if subsection (1) does not exist? 
I have to say to the Government that despite the hoards of officials that it may have in the corridors it has got it wrong again. It has made another mistake. I cannot help believing that for all the giggles that can come from the Government benches—[ 
Interruption 
] Our primary responsibility is as legislators and I have not seen in my 15 years in the House a new Act of Parliament so botched so full of errors and causing so many compliance costs. 
The Minister in charge thinks that it is a laughing matter. I have just had a letter from a woman on the North Shore that stated that in applying for her building consent she was told she has to pay $43000 before she is able to get a building consent for a house. Members opposite think that that is quite funny. They think this is all just a bit of a hoot. They think that ordinary New Zealanders come up with $43000 for a new house just like that. Well we do not. Members on this side of the House hold Chris Carter accountable for this sort of botched law. 
Debate interrupted.
Vote: Corrections Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee Procedure 
Vote: Corrections Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:617;Page:12996] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 62 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Tony Ryall to clause 6 be agreed to: 
to omit paragraph (h) from subclause (1).
Benson-Pope David: Resource Management (Energy and Climate Change) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Benson-Pope David: Resource Management (Energy and Climate Change) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:610;Page:7599] 
DAVID BENSON-POPE (NZ Labour—Dunedin South) 
: 
 I would like to thank the previous speaker for sitting down as would most members of the New Zealand community and of this Parliament. I do not think there is any area where that tired party has distinguished itself so little with its lacklustre and discredited arguments as the area relating to climate change. I think we could probably characterise the National Party as the party that believes that global warming does not exist and when we put that alongside National’s discredited friends from ACT the party that is so often quite appropriately referred to as the “Flat Earth Party” in this Parliament we see why that is. 
This legislation adds to the leadership role that this Government has already played in relation to climate change by taking steps at least towards halting and ultimately towards reversing those undeniable effects on our environment. I am pleased to recommend the bill to the House and to the select committee.
Vote: Taxation (Annual Rates Venture Capital and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — First Reading 
Vote: Taxation (Annual Rates Venture Capital and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:616;Page:12507] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Taxation (Annual Rates Venture Capital and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 75 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand First 13; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 45 
New Zealand National 27; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Bill read a first time and referred to the Finance and Expenditure Committee.
Vote: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:17054] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment to the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 10 
Green Party 9; Maori Party 1. 
Noes 109 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment to the amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Metiria Turei to proposed new clause 33A set out on Supplementary Order Paper 302 in the name of the Hon Dr Michael Cullen be agreed to: 
to add to subclause (4) the words “or (c)”.
Vote: Overseas Investment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Overseas Investment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:21591] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 27 
New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 6; Green Party 8. 
Noes 81 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 20; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Burton Mark: Volunteers Employment Protection Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee 
Burton Mark: Volunteers Employment Protection Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee 
[Volume:615;Page:11578] 
Hon MARK BURTON (Minister of Defence) 
: 
 I take the opportunity for a very short call to explain the additional Supplementary Order Paper and amendments in my name. The passing of the Holidays Act of 2003 which comes into effect on 1 April 2004 necessitates some minor amendments to this bill as reported back. The opportunity therefore is taken to correct a minor typographical error; divide the bill into two bills to amend the Volunteers Employment Protection Act and the Defence Act respectively; and provide that the bill will come into effect at the same time as the Holidays Act. There is a further amendment to clause 5 consequential to the renaming of the Higher Salaries Commission as the Remuneration Authority. 
Progress reported.
Peters Winston: Motions — Scottish Parliament Building—Opening 
Peters Winston: Motions — Scottish Parliament Building—Opening 
[Volume:620;Page:15948] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I move  
That this House extend its congratulations to the people of Scotland as they mark the opening of their new Parliament Building at Holyrood on Saturday 9 October 2004 and offer its best wishes to all of our Scottish parliamentary counterparts for a successful opening and ongoing representation of constituents into the future. 
Motion agreed to.
Benson-Pope David: Wine Bill — Second Reading Procedure In Committee Third Reading 
Benson-Pope David: Wine Bill — Second Reading Procedure In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:612;Page:9481] 
DAVID BENSON-POPE (Labour—Dunedin South) 
: 
 I am pleased to rise in support of the bill. I think one of the key issues about the Wine Bill is that it is a response that the Government has made in cooperation with the industry and was initiated at the request of the industry. No one in this country would be unaware of the extraordinary value and level of sophistication of the wine industry in this country particularly in the last two decades. This bill will ensure that the excellent international reputation of New Zealand export wine is maintained and that the standards we are forced to set by mechanisms that operate elsewhere are well and truly met. I commend it to the House for rapid passage.
Swain Paul: Holidays Amendment Bill — Instruction to Committee 
Swain Paul: Holidays Amendment Bill — Instruction to Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:16017] 
Hon PAUL SWAIN (Minister of Labour) 
: 
 I move  
That it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the Holidays Amendment Bill that it take the bill part by part. 
Motion agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Robertson H V Ross: Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:607;Page:4588] 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Before I call the next member I would like to inform the Committee that the debate on the schedule is very narrow. It is confined to the consequential amendments set out in the schedule. Members should not range over the contents of the bill except to the extent that these amendments are consequential to those provisions. The consideration of the schedule is not an opportunity for a summing-up debate on the bill. That happens in the debate on the third reading.
Shirley Ken: Amended answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 9 to Minister 3 August 
Shirley Ken: Amended answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 9 to Minister 3 August 
[Volume:619;Page:14686] 
Hon KEN SHIRLEY (Whip—ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. This issue was raised during question time today—that the inaccurate answers we are consistently getting from Ministers— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Is the member speaking to the point of order? 
Hon KEN SHIRLEY 
: I am speaking to the point of order. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: What point of order? 
Hon KEN SHIRLEY 
: The one raised by Mr Tamihere. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: That has been dealt with.
Franks Stephen: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Franks Stephen: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:17000] 
STEPHEN FRANKS (ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I do not know what rule is governing the debate on this part. I am aware that normally there are tight limits but I have now been here for nearly an hour and a half and have seen the call go to National members and to Winston Peters. The National members have all had a round and Mr Peters has had two speeches while I have been here. I do not raise this point of order only for myself; there are two members of Mr Peters’ party who have been calling throughout the time I have been here and who have not had a go. As I understand it the Standing Orders suggest that the call should be available at least once to each member for a debate of this nature.
Peters Winston: Business Statement 
Peters Winston: Business Statement 
[Volume:623;Page:18737] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I want to ask Dr Cullen whether he is able to give us an idea as to progress on the Lawyers and Conveyancers Bill. I am sure that the august body called the Law Society would like to know where we are at with regard to that legislation.
Brown Peter: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
Brown Peter: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:613;Page:10009] 
PETER BROWN (Senior Whip—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I did not hear why the amendment was ruled out of order. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: It is inconsistent with previous decisions given that the honourable member Steve Chadwick’s amendments were agreed to.
Peters Winston: Points of Order — Finding of Contempt—Hon Dr Nick Smith Member’s Notice of Motion No. 2—Wording Finding of Contempt—Hon Dr Nick Smith 
Peters Winston: Points of Order — Finding of Contempt—Hon Dr Nick Smith Member’s Notice of Motion No. 2—Wording Finding of Contempt—Hon Dr Nick Smith 
[Volume:616;Page:12039] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. You will be aware as we all are that questions in the House are approved by the Clerk’s Office and that notices of motion come through a similar system as well. Appearing on page 6 of today’s Order Paper is a notice of motion that is a gross affront and insult to all of Parliament. With the greatest of respect I do not know how it got through—or whether there is a grammatical problem with the National Party and its leadership—but clearly I do not think a member can allege that this House has a gross lack of knowledge of the Standing Orders. I think it could be said that we collectively are the experts and that we do not exhibit a gross lack of knowledge. That being the case what remedies does a member of Parliament have when he or she reads such a notice of motion?
Fairbrother Russell: Aquaculture Reform Bill — In Committee 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Fairbrother Russell: Aquaculture Reform Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 14 December 2004. Volume:622;Page:17753. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
RUSSELL FAIRBROTHER (Labour—Napier) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Vote: Death with Dignity Bill — First Reading 
Vote: Death with Dignity Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:610;Page:7494] 
A personal vote was called for on the question  
That the Death with Dignity Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 58 
Alexander 
Duncan(P) 
Laban(P) 
Shirley(P) 
Barnett 
Dyson(P) 
Locke 
Smith L 
Benson-Pope 
Eckhoff(P) 
Mackey M 
Stewart 
Beyer 
Ewen-Street(P) 
Maharey(P) 
Tanczos 
Bradford(P) 
Fairbrother 
McCully(P) 
te Heuheu(P 
Brash(P) 
Fitzsimons(P) 
Okeroa 
Tizard 
Brown 
Franks 
Paraone 
Turei 
Burton(P) 
Goff(P) 
Perry(P) 
Turia(P) 
Carter C 
Hawkins 
Peters J 
Ward 
Chadwick 
Hereora 
Peters W(P) 
Williamson 
Clark(P) 
Hide 
Pillay 
Wong(P) 
Coddington 
Hobbs 
Prebble 
Woolerton(P) 
Cunliffe(P) 
Hodgson(P) 
Robson 
Donald 
Hunt(P) 
Roy (P) 
Teller: 
Donnelly 
Key(P) 
Samuels 
Catchpole 
Noes 60 
Adams 
Dunne 
Mallard(P) 
Simich 
Anderton(P) 
Duynhoven(P) 
Mapp 
Smith M(P) 
Ardern(P) 
Field 
Mark 
Smith N 
Awatere Huata 
Gallagher 
McNair 
Sowry(P) 
Baldock 
Gosche 
Newman(P) 
Sutton(P) 
Barker 
Goudie 
O'Connor 
Swain(P) 
Brownlee(P) 
Gudgeon 
Ogilvy(P) 
Tisch 
Carter D(P) 
Hartley 
Parker 
Turner 
Carter J 
Heatley(P) 
Peck 
Wilson(P) 
Choudhary(P) 
Horomia 
Pettis 
Worth(P) 
Collins 
Hughes 
Power(P) 
Yates 
Connell(P) 
Hutchison 
Rich(P) 
Copeland 
Kedgley 
Ririnui(P) 
Cosgrove 
King(P) 
Robertson(P) 
Cullen 
Mackey J(P) 
Ryall(P) 
Teller: 
Dalziel 
Mahuta(P) 
Scott 
English 
Abstentions 1 
Jones 
Motion not agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Robertson H V Ross: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:611;Page:8531] 
8.  
H V ROSS ROBERTSON (NZ Labour—Manukau East) 
 to the  
Minister for Small Business 
: What recent reports has he received on the increase in the number of small to medium enterprises? 
Hon JOHN TAMIHERE (Minister for Small Business) 
: 
 According to the Ministry of Economic Development’s report  
Small to Medium Enterprises in New Zealand: Structure and Dynamics 
 which was launched on Monday evening the number of small to medium sized enterprises in New Zealand has increased by 2.7 percent in the last 12 months. At the same time the number of Kiwis employed by small to medium sized enterprises grew by 2 percent. 
H V Ross Robertson 
: What initiatives is the Government taking to support New Zealand’s locomotive of growth the small to medium sized enterprise sector? 
Hon JOHN TAMIHERE 
: A huge number. To name a few: establishing a small business advisory group involving small business in the heart of Government and a small to medium sized enterprise directorate in the Ministry of Economic Development; implementing over 80 percent of the recommendations of the business compliance cost panel to represent at least 95 percent of potential benefits of the cost reduction. We are also the first Government to take small business seriously enough to appoint a Minister for Small Business. Shortly my colleague the Hon David Cunliffe will also be releasing a discussion document  
Tax Simplification 
 targeted directly at small businesses which will be wide and far-reaching. 
Lindsay Tisch 
: Does the Minister believe that the increase in compliance costs over the last 12 months experienced by 98.2 percent of the 760 mainly small to medium sized businesses surveyed last month by KPMG Peat Marwick and Business New Zealand has helped or hindered the growth of small to medium sized enterprises which are becoming smaller—and why? 
Hon JOHN TAMIHERE 
: No. 
Mike Ward 
: What measures can we look forward to from the Government to encourage Government agencies to purchase from these small to medium sized New Zealand businesses? 
Hon JOHN TAMIHERE 
: This Government has taken significant action in exploring those opportunities and a number of announcements in that regard will be made shortly. 
Paul Adams 
: Noting his answers is the Minister confident that these small enterprises are able to continue to thrive and grow when as detailed in the recent compliance cost survey by Business New Zealand and KPMG Peat Marwick such enterprises do bear disproportional compliance costs? 
Hon JOHN TAMIHERE 
: Yes.
Vote: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:17120] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 10 
Green Party 9; Maori Party 1. 
Noes 107 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 6; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Metiria Turei to clause 90 be agreed to: 
to omit from new subsection (4) of section 94B of the principal Act the words “may adversely” and substitute the word “will”.
Vote: Maori Fisheries Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Maori Fisheries Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:15425] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 71 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2; Maori Party 1. 
Noes 48 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 255 in the name of the Hon David Benson-Pope be agreed to.
Shirley Ken: Points of Order — National Party Leadership 
Shirley Ken: Points of Order — National Party Leadership 
[Volume:613;Page:9621] 
Hon KEN SHIRLEY (Deputy Leader—ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. There is a long tradition in this House that when a political party does elect a new leader that is acknowledged in the House. I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Dr Brash. I am sure he will prove to be a very worthy leader of a very worthy party and wish him every best wish in his new role. I would also like to acknowledge Bill English in the role that he played in leading the National Party also. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: That may well be the member’s view but that is the first time I have heard that particularly done in this House.
Gosche Mark: Secondhand Dealers and Pawnbrokers Bill — First Reading 
Gosche Mark: Secondhand Dealers and Pawnbrokers Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:609;Page:6518] 
MARK GOSCHE (Maungakiekie) 
: 
 I am happy to support the Secondhand Dealers and Pawnbrokers Bill. The bill will make it harder for criminals to dispose of stolen goods and it will make it easier for the police to recover stolen goods and solve property crimes. We are tired of the second-hand speeches from the other side of the House. We should get on and make life hard for the criminals out there.
Adams Paul: Local Government (Auckland) Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Adams Paul: Local Government (Auckland) Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:618;Page:14024] 
PAUL ADAMS (United Future) 
: 
 I rise to take a short call on behalf of United Future. I must pick up on the statement made by Jeanette Fitzsimons that none of the Auckland members are happy to go around Auckland without carting a tonne of metal with them. Let me assure her that I recognise many tonnes of metal as I sit in traffic in Auckland that belong to Green Party members. They are very easy to pick out because the owners have no respect for the motorcar whatsoever and place GE-free stickers on the back bumpers. Those cars are usually puffing out great heaps of smoke polluting the atmosphere like no other vehicle on the road. I can guarantee that all the smoky old diesels all the old petrol ones that puff and puff as we sit behind them choking have got “Vote Green” or “GE-free” on the back of them. The Auckland roads have far too many of them. I suggest that the Green Party could do a lot to help the environment by putting out a circular to its members suggesting that they choose not to use the motorcar but also suggesting that if like many Aucklanders at present they find that the public transport is such that they cannot trust it to take them where they want to go if they do need to use a motorcar to move from one particular place in Auckland to another they should carpool and use vehicles that are more suitable to our Auckland roads than their current ones which pollute the atmosphere. 
I am surprised at National Party members speaking fervently against this legislation. I am surprised that they even dare to stand here to speak on a bill that will progress roading in Auckland because they took funds that were due to be spent on our Auckland roads and shipped them to the South Island. How can they stand up here with a straight face and speak against this legislation which endeavours to fast track—[ 
Interruption 
] As we have heard we have had a situation where eight councils try to get their heads together. This legislation brings that number down to one body. We can deal with one body. One body can make decisions one body is accountable for its actions and if there are not the right people on it we can simply go to it and deal with that. 
One thing for sure is that although Aucklanders may not have noticed because they only fly in their helicopters here there and everywhere progress has happened in the last 5 years in terms of Auckland roads. The bulldozers are actually working the bridges are being built action is happening and most Aucklanders I speak to are very happy to see action. But it is the old story: is the glass half full or is it half empty? Some members of this place look at any glass as being half empty. I believe that with this legislation the glass is half full and growing and we will see great progress on roading in Auckland.
Ririnui Mita: Crimes Amendment Bill (No 6) — In Committee Third Reading 
Ririnui Mita: Crimes Amendment Bill (No 6) — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:609;Page:7099] 
MITA RIRINUI (NZ Labour—Waiariki) 
: 
 I do not think that my speech will be longer than your pronunciation of my name. 
Lindsay Tisch 
: I like your hairstyle. 
MITA RIRINUI 
: There is a gentleman over there who is giving me hand signals. Naturally I speak in support of this bill. I congratulate the Minister and the Government on introducing long-awaited measures for dealing with property crime in terms of technology.
Pettis Jill: Sittings of the House 
Pettis Jill: Sittings of the House 
[Volume:625;Page:20353] 
JILL PETTIS (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 In view of the fact that we are only half a minute away from the House rising I seek leave for the House to lift early rather than to interrupt the start of the next bill. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is their any objection? There is objection.
Vote: Electoral Matters Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Electoral Matters Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:622;Page:17272] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 71 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2; Maori Party 1. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 9. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Murray Smith to clause 18 be agreed to: 
to add to subsection (2A) in subclause (1) the following words: 
unless: 
(a)the Electoral Commission determines in its discretion that in all the circumstances the account ought to be paid and 
(b)the Electoral Commission has not repaid to the Crown the money that has been allocated to the relevant political party under section 74A and which would have been used to pay the account.
Smith Nick: Points of Order — Taito Phillip Field—Proxy Vote Personal Explanations—Interjections Privilege—Hon Matt Robson 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Smith Nick: Points of Order — Taito Phillip Field—Proxy Vote Personal Explanations—Interjections Privilege—Hon Matt Robson 
[Sitting date: 21 February 2007. Volume:637;Page:7534. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I seek your clarification about your ejecting me from the Chamber yesterday afternoon. There are four pertinent facts. The first is that  
Hansard 
 is absolutely clear that my interjection was made during a personal explanation not a point of order. Secondly the Standing Orders make it absolutely plain that a personal explanation is different from a point of order. Thirdly there is no Speaker’s ruling that there cannot be interjections on a personal explanation; in fact I have  
Hansard 
 reports of several occasions last year when you Madam Speaker were in the Chair during a personal explanation on which interjections were made and recorded in  
Hansard 
 and absolutely no action was taken. Madam Speaker we all make mistakes and if what happened yesterday afternoon was a mistake by you I will drop the matter and move on. Alternatively you need to make a formal Speaker’s ruling so that members know what the rules of the House are with that ruling being that interjections on personal explanations in future will result in an immediate kicking out. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: I thank the member. Yes I will make a ruling tomorrow.
Vote: Holidays Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Vote: Holidays Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:614;Page:10544] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 2 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 74 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9. 
Noes 42 
New Zealand National 27; ACT New Zealand 6; United Future 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Clark Helen: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Clark Helen: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:612;Page:8963] 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK (Prime Minister) 
: 
 I seek leave to table information received from the Counties Manukau District Health Board stating that Mrs Grimsdell’s surgery was delayed because during her pre-admission check a heart murmur was detected and she is waiting for a clearance from a cardiology specialist. [ 
Interruption 
] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: All members will be seated while I am on my feet. Leave has been sought to table a document. Is there any objection? 
Rodney Hide 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I am asking— 
Rodney Hide 
: I want to ask this question now. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Please be seated. I am seeking leave. Is there any objection? There is.