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Bayly Andrew; Robertson GrantANDREW BAYLY (National—Port Waikato): Thank you Mr Chair and I just want to thank the Minister. I'm glad that there was agreement at the select committee process and obviously the Minister was very aware of the changes that the Finance and Expenditure Committee put forward. This is really important and it's not contentious at all but I'm glad the Minister stood up and made that clear. I think it's really important because we have non-bank deposit takers who are very concerned about the proportionality of this. There's not a lot of questions in this but I think it's important to canvass it so it's on the public record that there is agreement by both—I think by all parties I hope but certainly from the National Party—that these two changes to clauses 3 and 4 are really important and we want to make sure that the Minister certainly will ensure that the Reserve Bank does take a proportionate approach. I think the other part of it—and this is one of the underlying themes of the smaller 13 non-bank deposit takers—is recognition that these smaller entities are of a different scale have different or less access to resources and their market share is quite different and therefore it was important that the Reserve Bank understood and we tried to make it clear that they need to be treated differently and not as one seamless whole as part of a group. I think the other thing is that an important part of clause 4(b) is also to maintain competition—that's a very important aspect—and paragraph (c) also draws on the need to restrict unnecessary compliance costs which again can bury these small businesses. We've already heard from some of the large banks and of course we've seen the exit of the Hong Kong Shanghai bank from New Zealand and one of the reasons quoted was the level of regulation that's been imposed on the banking sector and they perceived it to be a major restriction going forward. The last bit I think when you look at paragraphs (d) through to (h)—I just again hope the Minister might just confirm this—but one of the other aspects that the sector talked about the non-bank deposit taker sector was the need for certainty. I think that was sort of infused; whilst it was not directly quoted those last parts of it if we look in a minute from another context they're about creating uncertainty and the select committee was keen to make sure that that certainty was not only captured in clause 4 but also in clause 71 and new clause 76A. Again I invite the Minister to maybe just to confirm or otherwise whether that's his understanding because I think there will be a lot of people listening to how both the major political parties regard this particular aspect.Hon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister of Finance): I can absolutely confirm to the member that that principle of certainty sits alongside the principle of proportionality. I think in clause 4 the amendments we've made were good. It's also how it was initially drafted as well in order to make those points and so I can absolutely confirm that for the member.
Robertson GrantHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister of Finance): Mr Chair thank you very much. I don't intend to take a large number of calls in the committee stage because I think it's a good opportunity for members to ask the questions they do want to ask. But I do want to talk briefly about Part 1 partly to thank the select committee for the excellent work that they have done on this bill because in Part 1 there are a number of quite significant changes that the select committee made that I think do strengthen this bill. I particularly want to refer to the purposes clause and the principles clause.In the Purposes" clause the essence of this bill is that it is designed to be able to "[protect and promote] the stability of New Zealand's financial system." Obviously the bill does that through a range of means from licensing and supervision through to the new depositor compensation scheme which I will also speak about later in the debate. What the committee did was add into clause 3(2)(ba) a new paragraph to talk about the importance of accessibility of financial products and services provided by the deposit-taking sector. Now it's clear it's a subordinate clause because it says "to the extent not inconsistent with" the first subsection that I mentioned before but it is an important understanding that in addition to stability which is clearly the goal of managing our financial system through this legislation we do also want to have a sense that New Zealanders can access the kind of financial services that they need in order to go about their daily lives. So that addition by the select committee I think is an important one. I think it gives more clarity for the agencies and entities that will be in charge of administering this bill.Secondly under the principles clause this is where the select committee again did some excellent work around the importance of proportionality. This features in a couple of other parts of the bill which I'll come to later but in this particular part of it the principles include the Reserve Bank needing to take into account "the desirability of—(i) taking a proportionate approach to regulation and supervision". One of the issues raised by a lot of submitters when they came to the select committee and in the feedback we did in the earlier consultation on this was that for small deposit takers—those who aren't the big banks; the credit unions and so on who are involved in looking after a lot of peoples' money—they were concerned that the bill would give a disproportionate amount of regulation on them make it difficult to do the work that they need to do. There is an important role here for the Reserve Bank to have the flexibility that it needs to do its job but alongside that making sure that they must take account of the principle of proportionality is critically important.So that change also to clause 4 here in Part 1 I thought was a very significant one. And I thought it was worth noting that Part 1 does give the overview of the bill why we're here and I think gives a pretty good summary of that but it has been added to by the committee's work."
O'Connor GregDEPOSIT TAKERS BILLIn CommitteePart 1 Preliminary provisionsCHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): Members the House is in committee on the Deposit Takers Bill and the Fuel Industry Amendment Bill. We come first—Andrew Bayly: On the what? I'm sure the finance Minister—CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): Mr Bayly be quiet please. We come to the Deposit Takers Bill. We begin with the debate on Part 1. This question is that Part 1 stand part. This is the debate on clauses 3 to 9 and Schedule 1 the Preliminary provisions"."
Salesa JennyHOUSE IN COMMITTEEASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): I declare the House in committee for consideration of the Deposit Takers Bill and the Fuel Industry Amendment Bill.
Grocery Industry Competition Bill — Third Reading
Craig LizDr LIZ CRAIG (Labour): Thank you Madam Speaker. It's a real pleasure to speak on the third and final reading of this bill the Grocery Industry Competition Bill. And congratulations to Minister Duncan Webb and also former Minister David Clark for getting the bill to this point.I didn't sit on the select committee that heard the submissions on the bill but in the context of the high cost of living—needing to make sure that nobody has to pay any more than they need to at the supermarket. And as we've heard tonight and previously when the Commerce Commission released its report last year what it found was that that competition in the sector wasn't working well for consumers. So thinking through with many families particularly those on low incomes they're paying a huge proportion of their disposable income on the supermarket. I remember when my own sons were teenagers and just the huge amount of groceries we got through. So making sure that families don't have to pay any more than they have to is really important.So this is a really important bill that will help families and households with the high cost of living and I'm happy to commend it to the House.Motion agreed to.Bill read a third time.
Lewis StephSTEPH LEWIS (Labour—Whanganui): On this side of the House we are focused on the bread and butter issues that New Zealanders care about. Quite literally this bill is aimed at reducing the cost of bread and butter for New Zealanders at the supermarket. That is why I am supporting this bill.In all seriousness as someone who grew up in a household who at times watched my parents have to decide whether it was pay for food for us kids or pay for petrol for dad to get to work—so as we had an income the next week—I am very proud that this Government is tackling another big issue head-on to try and reduce the cost of living pressures that Kiwis are facing. We're doing that for groceries. We're doing that for the fuel industry as well. So I have absolutely no hesitation in commending this bill to the House.
Bennett DavidHon DAVID BENNETT (National): Thank you Mr Speaker. The National Party is supporting this bill but personally I just struggle to see how it's actually going to achieve its purpose. You know everybody has a choice where they want to buy their fruit and vegetables. Nobody forces you to go to one of the two supermarket chains to get your fruit and vegetables and you can actually get them cheaper if you go to the local greengrocer down the road. When you go to the supermarkets you've got a choice. You can go to the very little ones where you're paying more for convenience or you can go for the bigger ones and you can go for your shopping and decide to get that when it's on special and that when it's not. So nobody forces anybody to go to a supermarket; you've got that choice.The reality is that a Labour Government getting involved in any business is bad news. I just can't see it work when the Labour Government gets involved in any business; it's just how they operate. There are two things that I think people should be aware of in regard to our fruit and vegetables at the moment. Fruit and veggies are probably the bit that we all expect New Zealand to be able to produce. The reality is that our fruit and veggie growers do not get a return on their investment. You look at kūmaras at the moment—completely destroyed because of the weather this year. Very expensive; going to be very expensive next year as well. Those growers don't get the return to satisfy a business that's got to continue long term. Let's actually be real about it. If we want to do that kind of thing we need to give the growers the return they need.Secondly if you look at what's actually happening in the sector especially in the fruit and veggie market the supermarkets are becoming very dependent on one or two suppliers on purpose because they can regulate control of price and of quality and this bill actually accelerates that. It gives them the power to be the wholesaler to other players that come into the market. The very thing that they've done in the last decade in their market is actually what this bill actually accelerates. It helps them in their market plan.So we are supporting it because we need to see something done in this area; there's no doubt about it. I know that the Labour Party have got it wrong. They have got it wrong as normal. All they're doing is actually helping the supermarkets make more money. They are actually accelerating the economic gain that they have undertaken in the last decade and nobody is forced to go to a supermarket and buy their fruit and veggies. You have a choice. Exercise your choices consumers. Be smart about your money and you will actually be able to save. You do not need a Labour Government to make your savings on your daily spend.
Leary Ingrid; O'Connor GregINGRID LEARY (Labour—Taieri): The problem that this bill solves or seeks to solve is that until now the supermarkets have been making in excess of $1 million profit per day. I think there's agreement across the House that this is unacceptable. How to dismantle the duopoly is a much more difficult question and this legislation seeks to do that.The work of the select committee was to really ensure that the legislation was fit for purpose. I sat on that select committee—on the Economic Development Science and Innovation Committee—and we looked particularly at the wholesale supply regime. I want to commend the collegiate work that happened especially looking at the contractual arrangements and the complex business arrangements that major players in the market have done in order to be able to work around the rules.Because at the end of the day we as politicians can stand here and say that it is unethical or immoral to get excess profits but actually that's how capitalism works. The rules have to be fair and they have to be proportionate. Clearly they haven't been and what this bill is seeking to do is to correct that. It's a brave and a bold move and something to be commended. I'm really excited to see what is going to happen over time to make grocery prices fairer for everyday New Zealanders as a result of this. I commend it to the House.DEPUTY SPEAKER: This is a split call. Five minutes—the Hon David Bennett.
Bennett GlenGLEN BENNETT (Labour—New Plymouth): Madam Speaker I thank you for allowing me to take this call. It's lovely as the previous speaker Sam Uffindell the everyday man spoke about his Tasty cheese. I'm impressed he does go to the supermarket occasionally. I like to admit that I am the everyday man as well. Even though I am a member of Parliament now I still shop the same way I've always shopped and that is that bargain hunter that goes from supermarket to supermarket and from grocer to grocer to get that deal of that small block of cheese or that lettuce or that carrot.So when I when I look around and do my shopping it is always interesting to see what is around and what we have. Hence this piece of legislation around the Grocery Industry Competition Bill is necessary as I get around and look at the different suppliers and look at the different retailers.I want to acknowledge Roebuck Farm who is a local supplier. I know the piece of the legislation I want to mention briefly is around how this bill provides new protections to suppliers in terms of how the code is to limit the ability of the duopoly to pressure suppliers into accepting contracts that are wholly one-sided. In the small growers—the small makers—that is important and that is necessary.I also want to acknowledge the Hon David Clark who initially brought this to the House and then the Hon Dr Duncan Webb. I believe this is his first piece of legislation as a Minister that will be becoming into law—so congratulations on that. We in the Economic Development Science and Innovation Committee worked hard on this. I was grateful that we were able to bring it back to the House in support working together which is something that generally happens—we get on most of the time. But I'm excited that the Grocery Industry Competition Bill will become legislation and I commend this bill to the House.
Chen NaisiNAISI CHEN (Labour): Thank you Madam Speaker. I'm incredibly proud today to be in the House to pass such an important bill. And I do congratulate the Minister Hon Dr Duncan Webb and the Hon Dr David Clark as well for shepherding through this bill and incredibly proud to have been chairing the Economic Development Science and Innovation Committee. As my colleague across the House has painstakingly gone over all of the details that our select committee has considered during the process I won't go over it again but I do thank the National Party as well for their cooperation during the consideration of this bill.I love supermarkets—I do have emotional connection to them. The only Pak 'N Save in North Shore was open in Albany which used to be quite a far away place. But my piano teacher used to live in Albany and so once a week I would go to my piano lesson and then after piano lesson our whole entire family—my parents and my grandparents—would come and pick me up and go to the supermarket in Albany. So it was always a great experience and I would always get to pick up an ice-cream or something—a treat at the end to reward me for having practised my piano that week. And as we went into lockdown the supermarket became the only place I could go to leave the house really and to have some sort of excitement in life.But as we went through the market study for supermarkets we saw I guess a more sinister side a darker side to the supermarket industry—that $1 million of profit per day that the two supermarket chains are now harvesting. In a hard time like this we have to do something about it.As the Minister has mentioned this is a bill to make sure that all New Zealand consumers are being given a fair deal at the checkout. But to me also this bill is about making sure we give our suppliers our farmers and our growers a fair deal as well. I can never forget the time when I went into one of my colleagues Ingrid Leary's electorate and met with some of our farmers and they said Well milk prices haven't grown and the prices are getting more expensive in the supermarket. Where has the money gone?" Well here it is. We're showing it. And this is also to our growers who are market gardeners. I come from a community full of market gardeners and we have a proud tradition of feeding New Zealand in the Chinese community. So this is to our dairies to our veggie shops to everyone here in New Zealand this is a great bill that will change New Zealanders' lives and I commend this bill to the House."
Mahuta Nanaia; Dean JacquiHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Minister of Foreign Affairs): He ika ki te moana ko au ki te whenua Tīkapa oneone hokinga kāinga. Ko aku whatu e huri ana ki Te Kohukohunui Te Kotūiti ka tae mai koe ki te takoto o Te Whanganui-a-Tara. Turuki turuki paneke paneke haramai te toki haumi e hui e tāiki e. Kua hipa te wā. Kua hipa te wā nō reira tēnei te tautoko i ngā kōrero kua whārikihia ki mua i tō koutou nei aroaro Ngāti Paoa. Tērā tangi apakura ki a Mōrehu tatū atu rā ki a rātou katoa i ngā tau kua whai ake i tēnei o ngā kaupapa. Nō reira koutou ngā mōrehu ngā mahuetanga iho Hauāuru te pai o te kite i a koe koutou katoa. Ka noho tūturu ngā kōrero i waihotia e koro ki waenganui i a mātou ngā mema o tēnei Whare Pāremata he tīmatatanga tēnei. He maha ngā piki me ngā heke engari he tīmata tēnei. Ko tā rātou wero ki a tātou te Pāremata ahakoa ko wai e noho ki tēwhea o ngā tūru he tīmatatanga tēnei. Me mahi ngātahi kia taea e Ngāti Paoa ki te tutuki i ā rātou nei wawata mō nāianei mō ngā uri whakatupu. Nō reira Ngāti Paoa kei a koutou tēnei wā nō koutou te mana. Tēnā koutou.[As fish in the sea I am on the land the sands of Tīkapa the home I return to. My eyes turn to Te Kohukohunui to Te Kotūiti you arrive at the topography of Wellington. Advance advance progress progress take up the sceptre it coalesces it comes together it is done. The time has passed. The time has passed so I support the statements that have been laid before all of you Ngāti Paoa. The song of grief for Mōrehu and also to those who pursued this initiative over the years.So to you the survivors the remnants Hauāuru it's good to see you all of you. The statements left by your grandsire among us the members of this House of Parliament this is a beginning. There are many ups and downs but this is a beginning.Their challenge to us to Parliament regardless of who is sitting in which seat this is a beginning. We must work together so that Ngāti Paoa is able to accomplish the dreams for today and for descendants to come.] Motion agreed to.Bill read a first time.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): The question is That the Ngāti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill be considered by the Māori Affairs Committee.Motion agreed to.Bill referred to the Māori Affairs Committee.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): Members I can tell the House that permission has been now granted for a waiata. PaoWaiata—RimurimuKaranga
Ngāti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill — First Reading
Robertson Grant; Rurawhe AdrianBUSINESS OF THE HOUSEHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Leader of the House): Point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave for the House to now move to Government order of the day No. 1 the Ngāti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill and that this be followed by the general debate and for the House to then return to Government orders of the day as listed on the Order Paper.SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There appears to be none.
Urgent Debates — Oranga Tamariki—Allegations of Inappropriate Sexual Behaviour by Staff in Oranga Tamariki Residences
Urgent Debates
Rurawhe AdrianURGENT DEBATESOranga Tamariki—Allegations of Inappropriate Sexual Behaviour by Staff in Oranga Tamariki ResidencesSPEAKER: I have received letters from Karen Chhour and Jan Logie seeking to debate under Standing Order 399 the Government's response to allegations of inappropriate sexual behaviour by staff towards young people in Oranga Tamariki residences. This is a particular case of recent occurrence for which there is ministerial responsibility. Children in Oranga Tamariki residences are in a vulnerable position and the State has a duty of care towards them. A potential failure of that duty and the Government's response to it warrants the attention of the House.URGENT DEBATES DECLINEDHon Michael Wood—ResignationSPEAKER: I have also received letters from David Seymour and Christopher Luxon on the resignation of the Hon Michael Wood as a Minister. This is also a particular case of recent occurrence for which there is ministerial responsibility. As Speaker I have to decide which is the most urgent of the two requests and I have considered that the Oranga Tamariki matter meets those criteria. However I am prepared to consider the Wood resignation applications again tomorrow if parties would like me to do so.URGENT DEBATESOranga Tamariki—Allegations of Inappropriate Sexual Behaviour by Staff in Oranga Tamariki ResidencesSPEAKER: Karen Chhour's letter was received first; therefore I call on her to move that the House take note of a matter of urgent public importance.
Rurawhe AdrianPETITIONS PAPERS SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLSSPEAKER: Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation.CLERK: Petition of Jian Guo Yang requesting that the House impose harsher penalties for criminal offences petition of Sunny Kaushal requesting the House urge the Government to act on what we believe is a retail crime emergency.SPEAKER: Those petitions are referred to the Petitions Committee. Ministers have delivered papers.CLERK: Hutt Valley District Health Board Annual Report 2021-22Lotto New Zealand Statement of Performance Expectations for the Financial Year Ending 30 June 2024 Government response to the report of the Regulations Review Committee on its interim report on its briefing about orders made under section 70 of the Health Act 1956.SPEAKER: Those papers are published under the authority of the House. No select committee reports have been delivered for presentation. The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of bills.CLERK: Regulatory Systems (Primary Industries) Amendment Bill introductionRegulatory Systems (Climate Change Response) Amendment Bill introductionCorrections Amendment Bill introduction.SPEAKER: Those bills are set down for first reading.
Dean JacquiWEDNESDAY 21 JUNE 2023The Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.KARAKIA/PRAYERSHon JACQUI DEAN (Assistant Speaker): Almighty God we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests we acknowledge the King and pray for guidance in our deliberations that we may conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom justice mercy and humility for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen.
Thursday 27 October 2022 - Volume 763
Organic Products Bill — Second Reading
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Organic Products Bill be now read a second time.Ayes 108New Zealand Labour 64; New Zealand National 32; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2.Noes 10ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.Bill read a second time.Named changed to Organic Products and Production Bill.
12. Question No. 12—Broadcasting and MediaMELISSA LEE (National) to the Minister for Broadcasting and MediaQuestion No. 12—Broadcasting and Media12. MELISSA LEE (National) to the Minister for Broadcasting and Media: Does he stand by all of his actions and views regarding the Aotearoa New Zealand Public Media Bill?Hon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister for Broadcasting and Media): Yes. I particularly stand by the view that the creation of this new organisation will strengthen the delivery of New Zealand's public media services for future generations.Melissa Lee: What does the Strong Public Media Business Case say is the total new Crown funding required for Aotearoa New Zealand Public Media across financial years 2027-2051?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: I'll have to come back to the member on that.Melissa Lee: Can the Minister confirm that Aotearoa New Zealand Public Media will require new Crown funding each year once established and if so how much will it be?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: We've already committed to the next three years. There will be $109 million of new money injected over the next three years. We can commit to the next three years.Melissa Lee: When the Minister agreed to arrange for officials to brief me on the business case for the Aotearoa New Zealand Public Media Bill to show the cost-benefit analysis why has it been over four weeks and I have still not been contacted by his ministry?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: I have asked my ministry to contact that member. I will ask them again.Melissa Lee: Does the Minister believe that the planned merger will provide an opportunity to present more programming to New Zealand viewers which reflects more Māori contact more stories themes and presenters; if so does the Minister know what percentage of content on TVNZ+ TV ONE+ and TV2 Ondemand streams currently features Māori themes contents and presenters?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: I'll answer the first part of the question. I expect there to be more Māori programming more diversity as well as more programming for Pasifika Asian people and young people. We want to see ourselves. We want to hear ourselves.
11. Question No. 11—Social Development and EmploymentDr EMILY HENDERSON (Labour—Whangārei) to the Associate Minister for Social Development and EmploymentQuestion No. 11—Social Development and Employment11. Dr EMILY HENDERSON (Labour—Whangārei) to the Associate Minister for Social Development and Employment: How is the Government delivering on its commitment to strengthen social cohesion?Hon PRIYANCA RADHAKRISHNAN (Associate Minister for Social Development and Employment): This morning I launched Te Korowai Whetū Social Cohesion a package of tools that provides us with a shared understanding of what social cohesion means for Aotearoa New Zealand actions that we can take collectively to strengthen it and how we will measure progress. I also launched a community fund that will support social cohesion initiatives. This package delivers on specific recommendations made by the royal commission of inquiry into the Christchurch mosque attacks to strengthen social cohesion.Dr Emily Henderson: What role do communities have to strengthen social cohesion?Hon PRIYANCA RADHAKRISHNAN: People from different communities and sectors have contributed significantly as we developed this package and I thank them. The aim here is for us to work collectively to create a society where everyone feels safe valued a sense of belonging and able to participate and so everyone has a role. I believe that the tools that we've released today will play a role in guiding action that contributes to work strengthening cohesion.Dr Emily Henderson: How will the grant fund support community-led initiatives?Hon PRIYANCA RADHAKRISHNAN: As part of Te Korowai Whetū we've also launched a fund to support community initiatives that contribute to cohesion. New Zealand already has high levels of social cohesion; we rank higher than the OECD average on a number of indicators. However we know that there's more to do and we know that strength lies in our communities and the initiatives that they lead that bring people together and break down barriers. This fund will support our communities to do more of that.Dr Emily Henderson: What else is included in this package?Hon PRIYANCA RADHAKRISHNAN: This package also includes a measurement framework that will provide a whole-of-population view of social cohesion outcomes across a broad range of domains and a range of indicators. It provides a consistent way for stakeholders including Government to define aspects of cohesion and measure progress. The package also includes specific new actions for Government including looking at how we use the framework to analyse the impact that our legislative and policy decisions will have on social cohesion. Finally there are information sheets to support action across different sectors and communities and I encourage everyone to make use of them.
8. Question No. 8—Education (School Operations)ERICA STANFORD (National—East Coast Bays) to the Associate Minister of Education (School Operations)Question No. 8—Education (School Operations)8. ERICA STANFORD (National—East Coast Bays) to the Associate Minister of Education (School Operations): What is an example of a question in the 2022 NCEA Numeracy and Literacy pilot that she believes was not culturally appropriate" as she has claimed and does she believe students should only be asked questions about things they have personally experienced?Hon JAN TINETTI (Associate Minister of Education (School Operations)): To the first part of the question the member is referring to a quote that was not my personal claim but referring to the views of some teachers and experts. This was in relation to the overall assessment not specific questions. To be clear none of the feedback from teachers and experts in the evaluation report provided to me gave examples of specific questions in the assessment. Therefore I have no specific examples to provide the member from that feedback. And to the second part of the question no.Erica Stanford: Isn't the reason for her unwillingness to give one simple example to back up her excuse as to why 98 percent of decile 1 kids cannot pass a basic literacy exam because she is desperately trying to hide from the fact that her Government has not rolled out any numeracy or literacy programmes in the last five years to ensure that these students would pass the assessments?Hon JAN TINETTI: No.Erica Stanford: How can she say that she will not second-guess the expert teachers when they say that the tests are not culturally appropriate when the evaluation report stated that many of them have not seen the questions in the test and an email to the education Minister from a principal said that "We have not seen the tests that our students sat yet we were still asked to comment on the equity and suitability of the test."?Hon JAN TINETTI: I back our experts and I stand by the pilot. These results show that we need to ensure that all students leave school with fundamental maths and literacy skills fit for the modern world.Erica Stanford: How many of the 14 participants who responded to the statement in the evaluation that the literacy reading test was not a valid and reliable assessment had actually seen the test questions given she is relying on their expert opinion?Hon JAN TINETTI: I don't have those figures in front of me. If the member wanted that she could put that in writing and our office will respond.Erica Stanford: Why when I asked her yesterday to give one example of the type of question in the NCEA literacy and numeracy tests that she felt was culturally inappropriate could she only point to this child's book and the use of the word "clue" and isn't the entire point of teaching and education to teach children to help them to learn words that they are unfamiliar with?Hon JAN TINETTI: That's exactly the point that I was making: we need to contextualise learning. Thank you for listening to my answer."
O'Connor GregDEPUTY SPEAKER: This debate is interrupted and is set down for resumption next sitting day. The House stands adjourned until 2 p.m. on Tuesday 8 November 2022. Thank you ladies and gentlemen and staff for your work in this sitting block.Debate interrupted.The House adjourned at 4.56 p.m.
Edmonds BarbaraBARBARA EDMONDS (Labour—Mana): Thank you Mr Speaker. There is a saying that short can be sweet" especially when you're vertically challenged like myself but also because this particular bill is very sweet and so I'm going to make this speech very short for your purposes.There are not many times in this House where we come together to unanimously agree to a bill. This is one of those times. Even before it gets through to the process where it's a bill generally most political parties are actually consulted as part of the policy process. What usually happens: Government agencies come together and say "I have this very small technical amendment I'm not going to have a bill in the House in the next coming Order Paper so please Parliamentary Counsel Office adjust this. Please make this bill come together and put my amendment in the bill." I've been part of that policy process many times.So as Minister Andrew Little covered already this is a small technical bill. It is a bill that does not contain any significant policy changes; it is a bill to make policy more efficient and more effective. I commend this bill to the House."
Chen NaisiNAISI CHEN (Labour): Although I'm tempted to call this a mundane bill it is not. Like the Minister the Hon Andrew Little has said it is a bill with lots and lots of hard work and lots and lots of detail that has been put into it by our officials especially those led by the Ministry of Justice. And so as a member of the Governance and Administration Committee—a great select committee—we thank all of the officials who have come in to work with us.During the select committee process we spent a lot of time making sure any changes were non-controversial. And that is obviously the nature of omnibus bills. To make sure that there was no opposition we paid special attention to the Ngāti Manuhiri claims in terms of whether people either from iwi or from other interested parties had any other opinions or ideas or if there was any conflict about the changes being made. And so we spent a good deal of time making sure that was settled and that was and that they all supported this change we were going to make.Mr Speaker it would be remiss of me especially when you are in the seat today to not talk about my favourite change here: the Dog Control Act of 1996 to remove the requirement for a registered vet to provide a written declaration that an imported dog is not a breed listed at Schedule 4 for disability dogs and any dog that is kept used or certified for use by a specified agency". So on that note I commend this bill to the House."
Warren-Clark AngieANGIE WARREN-CLARK (Labour): Thank you Mr Speaker. I thought that was going to go on forever! A real pleasure to talk on the Organic Products Bill. There is some real uncertainty. We've heard that the sector has asked for this. We have delivered but it's taken quite some time. I think the bill is fit for purpose it's going to support our overseas market to have more surety about our systems and it's going to increase and add value to what we do here where we have $723 million value in the organics sector currently.My dear friend Linley grows organic kiwifruit under the BioGro kiwifruit industry in the Bay of Plenty. I know she's keen and is watching this bill progress through the House as many in the sector are. I commend this bill to the House.
Bennett GlenGLEN BENNETT (Labour—New Plymouth): Kia ora Mr Speaker. Well back in 2019 the organics industry worldwide was estimated to be worth $184 billion—quite a lot of money really. Rachel Brooking: Lot of money.GLEN BENNETT: Lot of money. And of course that is growing. I know the pun has been dropped a few times accidentally or on purpose but that is growing and we need to grow with it. And here in Aotearoa New Zealand we need to be on that waka ensuring for our organic products that there is process in place so people know what they're buying. But also as my colleague and friend from across the floor said—the MP for Taranaki - King Country Barbara Kuriger—that for example her whānau in Taranaki has an organic farm and the process they've gone through. And there are lots of examples as I look around the region of Taranaki where organics is just becoming the norm. So we need to ensure that we have policies and we have legislation that's fit for the 21st century as we continue to grow this industry.On the weekend I was having a coffee with friends and caught up with someone who in the last four years has established this asparagus farm just on the outskirts of New Plymouth. And they're working towards certifying it as an organic asparagus farm and the complexities and the challenges that come with it. But yes she'll probably get it done well hopefully we'll be done before this—we'll get this bill done anyway; that's what I'm trying to say.Barbara Kuriger: We hope so. GLEN BENNETT: Very shortly—hope so.The select committee process as was carried out by the Primary Production Committee saw 350 submissions come across the table with around 60 oral submissions made; both in support and also critiquing this legislation.As I said we need to get on with it so I'm going to sit down and commend this bill to the House.
Brooking RachelRACHEL BROOKING (Labour): Thank you Mr Speaker for this opportunity to talk on the newly named I believe Organic Products and Production Bill as recommended from the Primary Production Committee.This bill—why is it here before us? Well it addresses the call from the industry as we've just heard from the previous speaker Barbara Kuriger to provide consumer confidence about what is organic. It's going to be good for exporters. We heard from Anna Lorck about the huge size of the industry—Angie Warren-Clark: Apples.RACHEL BROOKING: —and about apples of course. There will be environmental benefits as well from the system because of course with more farmers being incentivised because of that premium to go organic less synthetic fertilisers are going into our environment and that's got consequential health and environmental benefits. We've heard also from the past speaker the member for Taranaki-King Country about the time that this bill has been progressing through the House. I want to say that I have a recollection from a hui at Rātana Pā in about 2001 about Māori organics. So this conversation about organics and standardising it and what's good for export what's good for our economy and what's good for our environment has been going on for a long time.So what does this bill do? Well it sets up a regulatory system to standardise what is organic and this will provide the international confidence that our export market wants. We've heard that from Tim van de Molen's speech and also the Minister's speech outlined that very clearly. The regulations set the standards and this is where the detail will be. Just reflecting on the conversations we've just had Part 6 of the bill addresses organic standards and at what will be section 105 it says what organic standards those regulations are to include. The select committee added in there that an organic standard must contain high-level guidance for notices that may be given in relation to the organic standard. So that was one of the changes that the select committee thought was important. The bill introduces a whole lot of new terms like recognised entity" "approved operator" "organic products officer" and "advisory council". That advisory council is via the select committee recommendation.So I commend this bill. I commend the work of the Minister that we've heard about the select committee and of course the officials for really bringing us a piece of legislation that's going to have both economic and environmental benefits."
Salesa Jenny; Lorck AnnaORGANIC PRODUCTS BILLSecond ReadingDebate resumed from 25 October.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): The last time we were debating the Organic Products Bill second reading we were at call number six. The next call is an ACT Party call. I call on Anna Lorck.ANNA LORCK (Labour—Tukituki): Thank you Madam Speaker. I rise as the proud member for the Tukituki electorate where growing organic produce is strong. From apples to chickens we grow the great things in Hastings. We grow organics and I'm so proud to say that and speak on the Organic Products Bill which has been established for the mandatory organic standards of New Zealand.The bill will set out a framework for the organics system and associated regulations and it is so important that we support this bill. New Zealand's organic industry is growing and consumer demand for genuine and certified organic products across the world.Currently organic certification isn't standardised and questionable and confusing organic product claims threaten to muddy the waters for consumers and hinder our ability to compete on the international markets. This bill aims to increase consumer confidence when purchasing organic products and allow businesses to assert certified organic production domestically and internationally.This bill brings New Zealand practices in line with the way that our major trading partners already regulate organic products and this will assist us to grow our organic industry exports by half a billion dollars a year.Rachel Brooking: How much?ANNA LORCK: Fantastic. Half a billion dollars a year. Demand for a great organic product has grown markedly in recent years.In 2019 organics were estimated to be worth €106 billion worldwide; approximately about $184 billion. With an annual increase of 9 percent on the year prior industries estimate to put the value of New Zealand organic sector in 2020 at $723 million a 20 percent increase on the—Anahila Kanongata'a-Suisuiki: How much?ANNA LORCK: A 20 percent increase.Rachel Brooking: How much?ANNA LORCK: Rachel Brooking a 20 percent increase. And I tell you it's going to keep on growing. Because in New Zealand we've got the best farmers and growers in the world. We are world leaders and that's why this Government is so committed to supporting our primary sector to not only be the best in the world but to grow the best for the world. And on that I commend this bill to the House. Thank you.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): I will now go back to the ACT Party. I call on Simon Court.
Reports — Briefing on Disarmament—Report of the Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade Committee
Rurawhe AdrianPETITIONS PAPERS SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLSSPEAKER: No petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. Ministers have delivered papers.CLERK: Annual report for 2021-22 of the Education Review Officeannual report for 2021-22 of the New Zealand Defence ForceGovernment response to the report of the Petitions Committee on the petition of the Chained Dog Awareness TrustGovernment response to the report of the Petitions Committee on the petition of Ava Simeon.SPEAKER: I present the report of the Controller and Auditor-General entitled Auditor-General's mid-term review. Those papers are published under the authority of the House. Select committee reports have been delivered for presentation.CLERK: Interim report of the Health Committee on the Improving Arrangements for Surrogacy Billreport of the Health Committee on the petition of the E tū Union.SPEAKER: The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of a bill.CLERK: Inspector-General of Defence Bill introduction.SPEAKER: That bill is set down for first reading.
Motions—Iranian Affairs — Women's Rights
Mahuta NanaiaMOTIONSIran—Women's RightsHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Minister of Foreign Affairs): Point of order. I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without debate on the treatment of women in Iran.SPEAKER: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There appears to be none.Hon NANAIA MAHUTA: I move That this House note the bravery of women and the people of Iran exercising their right to protest for women's rights and democracy; call for a thorough independent and prompt investigation of recent deaths of people in the custody of Iranian authorities including the Morality Police; and condemn the Iranian authorities' suppression of protestors and journalists making clear our view that the use of violence in response to the expression of fundamental human rights by women or any other members of Iranian society is unacceptable.Motion agreed to.
McAnulty Kieran; Bishop Chris; Shaw James; Court Simon; Rurawhe AdrianBUSINESS STATEMENTHon KIERAN McANULTY (Acting Leader of the House): Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday 8 November. In that week legislation to be considered by the House will include the first readings of the Business Payment Practices Bill the Customs and Excise (Arrival Information) Amendment Bill and the Inspector-General of Defence Bill. It will also include the second reading of the Electoral (Māori Electoral Option) Amendment Bill and the remaining stages of the United Kingdom Free Trade Agreement Legislation Bill. Wednesday will be a members' day. There will be an extended sitting on the morning of Thursday 10 November and that afternoon there will be a special debate on the report of the Transport and Infrastructure Committee on its inquiry into congestion pricing in Auckland.CHRIS BISHOP (National): Thank you to the Acting Leader of the House for that update. We're quite concerned on this side of the House about the inquiry into the review of the Radio New Zealand charter which had a report presented on 21 June. The Government response was due on 14 September and as yet that report has not been presented to the House. I'm wondering if the Acting Leader of the House could follow up on that for the House.Hon KIERAN McANULTY (Acting Leader of the House): Yeah I can do that.Hon JAMES SHAW (Co-Leader—Green): To the Acting Leader of the House just in reference to the Organic Products Bill thanks!Hon KIERAN McANULTY (Acting Leader of the House): No worries.SIMON COURT (ACT): Just speaking to the business of the House I just question for the Acting Leader of the House: when can we expect the Government to introduce the Natural and Built Environments Bill and any accompanying legislation to reform the Resource Management Act?Hon KIERAN McANULTY (Acting Leader of the House): At the moment we're focused on the Organic Products Bill and once we get through that then we will look at other options.SIMON COURT (ACT): The Minister for the Environment noted in the House this week that consenting costs the country $1.3 billion per annum. So is reforming the Resource Management Act a priority for the Government and if so when will the bill be introduced to the House?SPEAKER: Order! No. It would be best if the member put that question on notice for question time.
Salesa JennyTHURSDAY 27 OCTOBER 2022The Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.KARAKIA/PRAYERSHon JENNY SALESA (Assistant Speaker): E te Atua kaha rawa ka tuku whakamoemiti atu mātou mō ngā karakia kua waihotia mai ki runga i a mātou. Ka waiho i ō mātou pānga whaiaro katoa ki te taha ka mihi mātou ki te Kīngi me te inoi atu mō te ārahitanga i roto i ō mātou whakaaroarohanga kia mōhio ai kia whakaiti ai tā mātou whakahaere i ngā take o te Whare nei mō te oranga te maungārongo me te aroha o Aotearoa. Āmene.[Almighty God we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests we acknowledge the King and pray for guidance in our deliberations that we may conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom and humility for the welfare peace and compassion of New Zealand. Amen.]
Wednesday 26 October 2022 - Volume 763
United Kingdom Free Trade Agreement Legislation Bill — Second Reading
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the United Kingdom Free Trade Agreement Legislation Bill be now read a second time.Ayes 107New Zealand Labour 64; New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10. Noes 12Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2.Motion agreed to.Bill read a second time.
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the motion be agreed to.Ayes 97New Zealand Labour 64; New Zealand National 33.Noes 22Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2.Motion agreed to.Orders approved.