Davidson MaramaMARAMA DAVIDSON (Co-Leader—Green): I must add my thoughts to Part 2 picking up on the discussion in this part so far on the floor and particularly the importance of the measures and I absolutely tautoko Aupito William Sio's emphasis on how important it absolutely is to measure income—absolutely important. I was reminded of speaking to a constituent food bank worker in Palmerston North just last night. They do offer—to illustrate the point of incomes—budgeting advice but she said very very clearly These families do not need budgeting advice. They need more income." So I was really wanting to pick up that of course Part 2 right from clause 9 through to I think at least clause 20 is very specific and takes a varied number of income measures particularly around disposable household income and certain percentages that children and families may fall into at various parts of the year. I absolutely welcome that because we know that income is important.I wanted to move into—with Madam Chair's permission—as other members have highlighted some of the ideologies around those measures that I think are really important to debate and say that those measures are in a context. No legislation in this House is in an isolated context. All the legislation that we debate getting down into the parts of each bill is within a context of the whole other work programme and other bills that we debate here in this House. We cannot talk about child well-being and about setting targets and measures of child well-being that pick up on income and disposable household levels without also understanding what are the systemic factors that bring groups and communities to certain income levels and picking up on exactly the systemic bias and discrimination that is inherent and has long been for at least decades particularly to Māori and Pacific children of their families. We can take any number of examples which is why as David Seymour wanted to go further outside the measurement of the incomes in this part of the bill he went to a different place. He went to getting into the agency of families inside the homes actually. I'd prefer us to trust a little bit more the agency of families with incomes inside their own homes. I want us to step outside that actually and go to the systemic injustices that have an absolute impact on how child well-being manifests itself. We can take any number—discrimination in who is targeted and charged with cannabis for example. Some of those are young people and some of those are parents of these very children who we are trying to keep well. Automatically you can think of the fact that non-Māori and Māori young men smoke cannabis at the same rate but it is Māori young men who are more disproportionately apprehended and criminalised. I can see Madam Chair's face—CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): Thank you. MARAMA DAVIDSON: —so coming back to the bill what that means then is that I also agree with David Seymour that we need to go wider than incomes but let's go to the systemic injustice causes of what brings children to well-being or not. I simply wanted to stand and make that point—CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): Kia ora. MARAMA DAVIDSON: —very clear. Thank you Madam Chair."