Jackson WillieHon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister for Māori Development): Thank you Mr Simpson for that great speech. Maybe now you can support the bilingual signs strategy that we all talked about and that you forgot about two weeks ago—engari that's probably not in the spirit of the occasion. But I probably could go on about your nonsense in terms of health also but I might leave that for my mate Rawiri Waititi over there. Engari e mihi ana ki a koutou Ngāti Paoa i tae mai nei ki te whakarangatira i a mātou i tēnei wā. Rawe! Rawe ki te kite i a koutou. Mihi nui ki a koutou. [But I acknowledge you Ngāti Paoa who have arrived here to honour us at this time. Awesome! Awesome to see you. Many thanks to you.] Lovely to have you all here today and my apologies for missing the pō'hiri and the whakatau. You've already heard some of the statistics and some of the background. I only want to take a short call because I'll talk more in the second and third readings but I do want to acknowledge some of the kōrero that apparently was put out earlier. Apparently one of the koroua said that this is only peanuts in terms of a settlement. That will be true—that will be true—and the reality is and I talk about this quite often our people are put into a real bind during the Treaty settlement process. When it was first put in place as we will remember back around 1995 I recall our mate Tāme Iti and the protests that were going on with regards to whether the settlements really reflected a justice in terms of the loss in terms of Māori. As we all knew then we were clear that the settlements would not be because $1 billion was the figure put on the table and we knew that could never reflect the loss. So to our koroua who said it's about peanuts that would be true.But despite that we had learned koroua like Tā Tipene and Tā Robert Mahuta who knew there wasn't much choice—you know you either take the deal or you get nothing. If you look back at where they were at it was $170 million on the table even though the loss was $15 billion to $18 billion in terms of Tainui and Ngāi Tahu. That was the actual loss—$15 billion to $18 billion. Those rangatira I think as we all know thought Well you take the money or you get nothing." They took the money and look where those two tribes are today. So it's a bind for us as a people because the Crown comes to the table with all the negotiating power and our people are in a bind. We've got our whānau—my own whānau—who said "No no no you don't settle." Then you get our pragmatists and our other rangatira like Tā Robert and Tā Tipene who said "No we have to get on with this. We have to make a start." and look where Tainui and Ngāi Tahu are today.So yeah no Māoridom is used to settling on peanuts—that's the reality. That's how those tribes became so fantastic today. That's why kōhanga reo is strong. That's why iwi radio is strong. That's why Whakaata Māori is strong. It's just the reality—DEPUTY SPEAKER: Well Mr Jackson if you could now be strong on the bill please.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: That's all part of the bill Mr Speaker—that's all part of the bill—and what I am trying to say to our people up here is learn the lessons of what happened in the past. Let's come to the bill and let's also realise the amount of problems that the tribe had to go through with Ngāti Whātua opposing this tribe to start off with. I remember well Rēnata Blair opposing this—Ngāti Whātua have got to have everything you know and it was good that things were worked out. Things all worked out because other people have interests as this group do and in the end we saw those two groups coming together and forging a strategy going forward. So I am pleased that that was worked out with Ngāti Whātua. So that's opposing groups and then of course we have to deal with our whanaunga within the tribe which I think is going on now. Again that's the flaw with our Treaty settlement process but until we have something else we have to forge on with what we've got.So I mihi to all the whanaunga who have come here today to tautoko this kaupapa even though they might not be ecstatic about it. It's $23 million and I'm sure that they can build on that but—even more importantly—work with their own to find a way and find a rautaki find a strategy where people can work out where they're going how they can contribute and how everybody can be part of the settlement going forward. Those are a lot of challenges in front of our group today and I'm looking forward to following up on this and to seeing whether we're being fair as a partner in terms of this kaupapa. I want to work alongside Andrew Little to make sure that we fulfil some of our obligations. So mihi nui ki a koutou. Good to see you all here today. Tēnā anō tātou katoa."