Strange JamieJAMIE STRANGE (Labour): Madam Chair Williams thank you for the opportunity to speak which I assure the member will be a quality presentation so the member can take notes if the member so wants to.I want to look at section 292C in clause 38 which I don't believe has been covered yet and that's around the accuracy of data. Now our education system relies on accurate data. This is absolutely vital for our educational system to work. Now I realise the members on the opposite side have had a leadership change and if this is an example of the new leadership then I'm a little bit confused because we haven't had any—Hon Gerry Brownlee: Relevance. Relevance.JAMIE STRANGE: I'm just responding to the member—but we haven't had any quality conversations from the other side. But I'll leave that to the Minister and I'll return to the bill.So in terms of the accuracy of data it says here A person commits an offence if the person—(a) enters or changes an educational outcome on a student's record of achievement knowing that or being reckless as to whether the entry or change has the effect of falsifying the student's record;". This is vital because as I said before our education system relies heavily on the accuracy of data. This is in stark contrast to what we've seen under the previous Government around national standards.Just to juxtapose the two and explore this a little bit in terms of national standards I once spoke to a principal—obviously I won't mention her name—who said that she entered national standards data that went to the ministry and she got a message back saying "This is not correct." She knew it was correct and so she had to change it in order for it to be accepted. So she effectively had to falsify it which basically made a mockery of the system. Then she felt guilty. She met with a group of principals and said "Look I have to confess I've falsified the data for it to be accepted." And the principals in the circle they said "Oh we do the same thing." This was an example unfortunate as it is of data that was not accurate.So I appreciate this clause being in the bill here because like I said it's absolutely vital for our education system to be respected and to work properly and that the data is accurate. I've got a question for the Minister if he could please answer it: how will the Minister know if falsification has taken place? So what safeguards has the Minister got to know that data is incorrect?I had another example of this as an intermediate school teacher—Hon Gerry Brownlee: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. I'm sure that you've been listening quite closely to the contribution that's being made at the present time because you expressed a desire earlier to hear more in this debate. But effectively that member has just accused school principals of doing something that is totally illegal and that other school principals have had the law come down on them pretty hard for.CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): And the point of order is?Hon Gerry Brownlee: Well surely it is patently clear to you that it's inappropriate for a member to make such an accusation here in this Chamber. Oh the Minister of Education says it's OK for people to falsify their returns. OK.CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): I don't believe that is a valid point of order.JAMIE STRANGE: I was simply conveying an experience I had. This experience was unfortunate because the accuracy of the data was not correct and what I'm doing is highlighting one of the issues we had under the national standards that was presented to me. I'm stressing the importance of accurate data. So my question to the Minister is how will he know if falsification has taken place?I've made my point. I'll leave it over to others to speak and I look forward to hearing from the Minister. Thank you."