Brown Simeon; Little AndrewSIMEON BROWN (National—Pakuranga): Thank you Mr Chair and I appreciate the history lesson we've just been able to learn. Thank you very much. Thank you for the opportunity to take a quick call on Part 2 of the Drug and Substance Checking Legislation Bill. My question to the Minister in relation to how this impacts on the Psychoactive Substances Act is: is the Minister envisaging a situation here where people will be able to find potentially incredibly dangerous synthetic drugs—we've just had the situation in New Zealand AMB-FUBINACA; it's been just recently in this last Parliament classified as a class A substance responsible for the deaths of dozens of individuals including Calum Jones a young man who was given a freebie by the drug dealer. If he'd been able to go and get it tested down at one of the testing services which is going legalised under this would he have been able to get it tested and got a green ticket to say Yep that's AMB-FUBINACA it's exactly what you wanted" and then he'd be dead with a green ticket in his pocket? Is that the point? Is that the point of this? Because what we see in some of these incredibly dangerous synthetic drugs is that they are deathly. They are something which people react to incredibly differently. I fear that this is going to actually lead to a situation where we're going to be giving young people green tickets to say "Yep you got what you wanted you got what you paid for and now go take it." Yes maybe some information along the lines of the harms but if that's what the young person wanted and he's been given a green ticket and we know as parliamentarians how dangerous it is shouldn't we be taking a different approach?Hon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Health): Mr Chairman thank you. Can I just acknowledge our young guests in the gallery there too for whom this I hope will be an educational part of their visit. Just to explain for their benefit the process that we're going through at the moment this is the part of making law where we have a detailed clause by clause examination of the piece of legislation that is before Parliament. We've already had a first reading where we have a general debate about it; we've had a second reading; and now we're at what's called the committee stage and all members are entitled to pose questions to the Minister who's responsible for the piece of legislation—that's me and we're going through some of the clauses in it. The question we've just had from the honourable member Simeon Brown is the one that you've heard about whether this piece of legislation will deal with synthetic cannabis. I might add this piece of legislation—the proposal in it—is to allow testing of drugs and substances largely at music festivals and the like over the forthcoming summer because we know there is a real issue about young people turning up to those places with substances that they're not necessarily sure about and taking real risks with their health. We don't think we can stop that behaviour but we think we can make it safer. So that's the objective of the exercise.To respond to Mr Brown's question I might add that when it comes to synthetic cannabis in the form that was described by the member Chlöe Swarbrick which is dried matter sprayed with chemical substances the testing regime that outfits like KnowYourStuffNZ operate will not be able to test synthetic cannabis; it'll be able to test pills powders and fluids; that's what it will test. So to the extent that there is concern—and there still is concern—about dried matter sprayed with toxic chemicals that is a question we ought to consider for the long-term solution but this legislation won't provide an answer to that problem."