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Mallard Trevor: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4547. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Trevor Mallard): We now move to the debate on Part 2. We have Eugenie Sage’s amendments to clauses 7 10 12 13 14 16 18 and 19 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 87 and a tabled amendment inserting new clause 11A. I am making it clear that we are debating those amendments and what was agreed at the second reading.
Borrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4539. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): I will be taking the votes separately but I will be moving between the votes on clauses 2 3 and 4 without further debate.Clause 2 agreed to.Clause 3 agreed to.Clause 4 agreed to.Bill to be reported without amendment presently.
Macindoe Tim: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4539. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (Senior Whip—National): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. It is a fresh point of order and I wish to emphasise that I am certainly not challenging your ruling. I am simply making the point that at the start of this particular debate I sought leave—and it was agreed by the whole Committee—for the debate to be taken as one question but for the votes to be taken separately. Therefore I believe it is now appropriate for you to take the vote on each clause separately because that was the resolution of the Committee.
Borrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4539. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): I am sorry but the advice I have had—and I repeat it to the Committee—is that we now need to go through the vote separately on clauses 2 3 and 4 without further debate because it has been put.
Cunliffe David: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCunliffe David: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4539. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. There are two parts to this point of order. The first is to correct my earlier point of order where I indicated—and it was supported by the Government whip—that in the event that it was clauses 5 6 and 7 we could treat them separately from 2 3 and 4. On closer inspection however I see that they are subclauses of clause 4 and so cannot be put separately. The advice that we have received is that it may be possible by leave with your willingness to look leniently at the process and in view of your comment about the nest to extend the debate on clauses 2 3 and 4. I would ask you to consider that.
Borrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4539. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): I can inform the Committee that I have taken advice. I am obviously the author of my own rather public nest which is not as tidy as it was when we started at 7.30 this evening. I have put those clauses in error as clauses 2 3 and 4 and having moved to the vote I now need to do that. So my advice is that I need to put the question that clause 2 stand part and then move through to clause 3 and clause 4.
Macindoe Tim: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4539. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (Senior Whip—National): Can I just make the point that I quite deliberately did not challenge the Chair’s ruling. I used the words “may I draw to your attention” that this had occurred because I was not seeking to challenge your ruling so much as to express surprise that the question had been put before Government members had taken a call. I believe that the Hon David Cunliffe has correctly discussed the position that we are now in and I wonder whether with the agreement of the Committee we might seek leave.
Mark Ron: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMark Ron: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4539. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]RON MARK (NZ First): In order to be try to be helpful I recognise that this puts you in a very awkward position as the Chair. It is unusual for a whip to challenge the decision of the Chair particularly when the question has been put. I worry that that actually might set a precedent. Maybe a way forward might well be that if someone sought leave for an extra call to be given at this point in time setting aside what is normal rules and conventions and the Standing Orders that would do it without the embarrassment of a senior whip being seen to be challenging the authority of the Chair in such a manner.
Cunliffe David: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCunliffe David: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I am just seeking a clarification as to procedure. Unanimous as we are with the Government whip on the matter that we are within the bounds of the time that had been informally agreed for this debate and therefore in principle that we welcome the opportunity for Government members to make a contribution to the debate nonetheless your previous ruling was that you had already put the question on clauses 2 3 and 4 and my good colleague Dr Megan Woods had noted that clauses 5 6 and 7 were still available for debate. I wonder whether your intention was in fact to carry out the vote that you had put and then to open up debate leniently on the remaining clauses.
Borrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): I will take the member’s point. If a member from the Government seeks a call—[Interruption] I call Scott Simpson. [Interruption] I will remind the member seeking the call that we are looking for novel new and creative contributions to the debate.
Macindoe Tim: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (Senior Whip—National): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Could I ask you to explain to this Committee when there are members of all sides of the Committee seeking the call why you are shutting down the debate particularly when no Government member has had a chance to speak. And could I also make the point that there was agreement between the parties as to how this debate would be dealt with and we are within the time frame and all members expected that the time frame would be observed.
Borrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): The member makes an excellent point. The question is that clause 2 stand part. [Interruption] I am sorry. The question is that clause 2 stand part. All those in favour will say Aye—
Woods Megan: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWoods Megan: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr MEGAN WOODS (Labour—Wigram): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I just note that you put the question on clauses 2 3 and 4 of this bill but there are actually an additional three clauses of the bill—5 6 and 7. So I am wondering what the Chair’s intention is to do with those clauses of the bill. Maybe a National Party member might like to take a call on one of those clauses.
Borrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): I take the member’s point. However the question has been put. The debate was becoming repetitious. I take the point that National members did not receive a call. I take it they are not upset that the matter has now moved on and we are now about to debate the Environmental Reporting Bill.
Macindoe Tim: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (Senior Whip—National): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Could I just make the point that you have just put the question when not a single National member has spoken despite the fact that several National members were seeking the call—not too slowly because they have sought the call before and been overturned.
Borrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): Members the question is that clauses 2 3 and 4 stand part. Those of that opinion will say Aye those against will say No. The Ayes have it. I will report this bill without amendment presently.
Roy Eric: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4535. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]THE CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): I call Gareth Hughes and remind the Committee that we are looking for new and novel and creative contributions. [Interruption]
Macindoe Tim: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4533. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (Senior Whip—National): I seek leave for all remaining clauses of the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill to be considered in one debate with the questions on the clauses to be taken separately at its conclusion.The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): Leave for that purpose is sought. Is there any objection? There is not. We will be debating clauses 2 to 4 as one motion.
Hughes Gareth: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHughes Gareth: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4531. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]GARETH HUGHES (Green): Kia ora Mr Chair. Ngā mihi nui ki a koutou. Kia ora. I will leave my substantive contribution to clause 4 which is basically really the only page of text in the whole legislation. But clause 1 deals with the title. I would like to propose a new title for the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill. I would like to call it the “One Law for Oil Bill” because although I have got the greatest respect for Miss Woods and although it is a further example of the Government not doing its homework and of poor legislative drafting really the blame has to fall squarely at the feet of Shell Todd Oil Services. So perhaps we should be calling it the “Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Shell Todd Oil’s Fix-up) Amendment Bill”.Let us just quickly go through the chronology to explain why I am suggesting these titles. Although the legislation was poorly drafted and was rushed through blame has to be placed at the feet of the very companythat this legislation—using the awesome power of this Parliament to introduce legislation and pass an Act of Parliament—benefits: a single company Shell Todd Oil Services. This was a company involved in the select committee process on the original legislation a company that was heavily involved in lobbying and seeing that legislation passed a company that knew full well the provisions of the legislation a company that Cabinet decided on 8 December 2014 to pass this legislation for and to bring in this amendment bill for. Yet it was not until 15 December more than a month later that Shell Todd Oil Services finally got around to applying for its marine consent.This amendment bill simply retrospectively allows this company to continue its existing activity now that its permit has expired in case there are any appeals. We know it has been a controversial application locally but the fact is that this company ran straight to Cabinet ran straight to Ministers asking them to pass an Act of Parliament to allow it to continue its activity before it even got a marine consent application in. So it is disappointing this company did not appear before the Local Government and Environment Committee but I would like to echo the comments of Miss Woods that it was a constructive select committee process. I would like to acknowledge the chair and all the members because the bill has been substantively improved since the first reading. Kia ora.
Foss Craig: Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFoss Craig: Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4530. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CRAIG FOSS (Minister for Small Business) on behalf of theMinister of Finance: I move That the Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill be now read a third time.Bill read a third time.
Foss Craig: Appropriation (2014/15 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFoss Craig: Appropriation (2014/15 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4529. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CRAIG FOSS (Minister for Small Business) on behalf of theMinister of Finance: I move That the Appropriation (2014/15 Supplementary Estimates) Bill be now read a third time.Bill read a third time.
Tisch Lindsay: Appropriation (2014/15 Supplementary Estimates) Bill Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — Second ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Appropriation (2014/15 Supplementary Estimates) Bill Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — Second Readings[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4519. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): The next call is a split call. Gareth Hughes—5 minutes.
Mallard Trevor: Appropriation (2014/15 Supplementary Estimates) Bill Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — Second ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Appropriation (2014/15 Supplementary Estimates) Bill Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — Second Readings[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4503. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): Grant Robertson.
Bennett Paula: Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBennett Paula: Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4501. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon PAULA BENNETT (Associate Minister of Finance) on behalf of theMinister of Finance: I move That the Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill be now read a first time.
Mallard Trevor: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: General Debate[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4498. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): Just before I call the member I am going to ask the Hon Paula Bennett to speak just a little bit more quietly when other members are speaking especially about serious topics. Thank you.
Carter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Southern District Health Board—Replacement of BoardText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Southern District Health Board—Replacement of Board[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4488. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from Dr David Clark seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 the dismissal of all members of the Southern District Health Board and the appointment of a commissioner. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. The dismissal of the board and the appointment of a commissioner were announced this morning. This is an important issue upon which debates have been held in the past. However the Minister of Health has made a ministerial statement on the matter in the House today and importantly Dr Clark has had the opportunity to comment on it. On this basis I am not convinced that I should set aside further business of the House today. The application is therefore declined.
Lees-Galloway Iain: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLees-Galloway Iain: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4487. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]1.IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Labour—Palmerston North) to the Chairperson of the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee: Does he intend to call for further submissions on the Health and Safety Reform Bill before it is reported back to the House?JONATHAN YOUNG (Chairperson of the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee): As the member knows Standing Order 195(1) allows for a chairperson to request any person to attend and give evidence before the committee. He also knows that this action is most often taken in circumstances where there is a shortened report-back date on the bill and the committee is not due to meet for some time so the chair will call publicly for submissions under this Standing Order. Any such action taken by the chair is also on behalf of the committee so it is in effect subject to the committee’s approval. However in most other cases the decision to call for submissions is a decision that the committee would make.Iain Lees-Galloway: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: Yes—listen I can understand the point of order. I am going to invite the member to ask the question again because I do not believe that it has been answered.Iain Lees-Galloway: My question which was on notice is to the chairman of the—Mr SPEAKER: The member will just ask the question.Iain Lees-Galloway: —Transport and Industrial Relations Committee: does he intend to call for further submissions on the Health and Safety Reform Bill before it is reported back to the House?JONATHAN YOUNG: To call for a submission is a decision that the committee would make.Iain Lees-Galloway: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: We have had a second go at it; we are moving forward. Could the member could ask his supplementary question.Iain Lees-Galloway: All right then. What is the purpose of the 2-month extension for reporting back the Health and Safety Reform Bill which he sought leave of the committee to request from the Business Committee?JONATHAN YOUNG: As that member will understand from discussions in the committee it is an opportunity for the caucus committee to review and to commit—[Interruption] But as that member knows any decisions about the bill until the bill is reported to the House are for the committee to decide.
Simpson Scott: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4487. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]12.SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel) to the Minister for Senior Citizens: What steps is the Government taking to combat elder abuse?Hon MAGGIE BARRY (Minister for Senior Citizens): This is World Elder Abuse Awareness Week. One in 10 seniors has suffered some form of abuse or neglect and that is simply unacceptable. [Interruption] It may not be to the braying Opposition but most right-minded people would be concerned about that. Last year Age Concern received more than 2000 referrals for older people who suffered some form of physical financial or psychological abuse. Annually this Government distributes $1.7 million across 27 elder abuse and neglect prevention services around New Zealand to provide free and confidential support. On Friday I am releasing a video explaining why enduring power of attorney is so important for vulnerable seniors. A new umbrella initiative called Connects which we are rolling out across several communities will bring together agencies that will connect older New Zealanders to each other and will help prevent social isolation and elder abuse.Scott Simpson: What support is available for those who care for our elderly?Hon MAGGIE BARRY: There are more than 430000 carers in New Zealand which means that around one in 10 of us helps to care for a family member or a friend with everyday life. That is very hard for carers to balance in their lives so this afternoon when we celebrate 10 years of the Carers Alliance we are launching a new set of resources including five new online programmes to make it easier for those who care for our seniors to look after their own needs and access information to help seniors. One such programme is to provide webinars a web-based service that will enable seniors to engage with professionals about specific issues for seniors.
Sage Eugenie: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSage Eugenie: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4483. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]9.EUGENIE SAGE (Green) to the Minister for Primary Industries: Does he stand by his statement in regard to the export of swamp kauri that “we manage it very very closely”?Hon NATHAN GUY (Minister for Primary Industries): Yes. The Ministry for Primary Industries takes its legal responsibilities very seriously and works closely with the Customs Service on the export of indigenous products. There is a 100 percent inspection rate of notified exported kauri products by the ministry or by AsureQuality to make sure that these products are permitted under the Forests Act. In the last 18 months 80 consignments have been physically inspected and six were not approved. Yesterday I requested further advice from the ministry on improvements that can be made in managing the milling and exporting of swamp kauri.Eugenie Sage: If he and his ministry take their legal responsibilities very seriously why was important information missing from 81 percent of the “intention to export” notices submitted to the Ministry for Primary Industries in 2013?Hon NATHAN GUY: I am unaware of those allegations. What I am aware of is that the Ministry for Primary Industries takes a real focus on this issue. It complies with the Forests Act.Eugenie Sage: I seek leave to table a 2014 spreadsheet from the Northland Environmental Protection Society of “intention to export” notices submitted to the Ministry for Primary Industries in 2013—Mr SPEAKER: Order! The document has been described. I will put the leave to the House and the House will decide. Leave is sought to table that particular document. Is there any objection? There is objection.Eugenie Sage: If his ministry is managing this issue very very closely why is this log for sale online on a global wholesale trade platform when the Forests Act prohibits the export of kauri logs?Hon NATHAN GUY: The Ministry for Primary Industries is investigating that particular issue and the early information that I have had about that photo is in fact that that log is likely to be sitting here in New Zealand.Eugenie Sage: I seek leave to table a screenshot taken today from the Alibaba website—Mr SPEAKER: Order! That information is available if members want to go and look it up.Eugenie Sage: What action will the Minister take to tighten loopholes that have seen the illegal export of ancient swamp kauri logs and the plunder of Northland wetlands and that have made a mockery of the Forests Act’s protection of a scarce and valuable resource?Hon NATHAN GUY: I refute a lot of those allegations made by that member. There is already a 100 percent inspection rate of notified export swamp kauri products. Indeed if the member had listened to my primary answer she would have heard me say that I have requested further information from my officials to do with the milling and exporting of swamp kauri.
McKelvie Ian: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMcKelvie Ian: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4482. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]8.IAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei) to the Minister for Primary Industries: What announcements has he made in Budget 2015 that will future-proof New Zealand’s biosecurity system?Hon NATHAN GUY (Minister for Primary Industries): As part of Budget 2015 I announced that biosecurity funding will be boosted by $24.9 million over 4 years in addition to $2 million of capital funding. This funding will be used for a range of new biosecurity initiatives including more biosecurity detector dogs more X-ray machines improving New Zealand’s import health standards and greater auditing of other countries. In the Budget we also announced a new levy on overseas travellers to help protect our border which means that travellers will pay for customs and biosecurity services rather than the taxpayer. This is good news.Ian McKelvie: How can the New Zealand public contribute to the futureproofing of our biosecurity system?Hon NATHAN GUY: Biosecurity is important to all New Zealanders regardless of whether they are a food producer a tourism operator or even just someone who enjoys our unique biodiversity. The public can have their say on how they see the biosecurity system functioning now and also on how the system may operate to protect our interests into the future in the next 10 years. Participation in the Biosecurity 2025 strategy has already started and the public can register their interest by emailing biosecurity.
Naylor Jono: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNaylor Jono: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4478. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]5.JONO NAYLOR (National) to the Minister for Social Development: What reports has she received on the Government’s Youth Service?Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister for Social Development): The Youth Service is helping at-risk young people aged 16 and 17 build their skills and prepare them for employment. At the end of March 86.5 percent of young people enrolled in the Youth Service were engaged in education training or workplace learning. That is a 10.4 percent increase and is more than 1000 clients more than at the same time last year. Youth Service providers have told us that the percentage achieving National Certificate in Educational Achievement level 2 or equivalent has more than doubled compared with last year from less than 10 percent to nearly 25 percent which means that nearly 1500 more young people are achieving that qualification. This is just one of the ways that we are helping support young people into work.Jono Naylor: What else is the Government doing to support young people off welfare and into work?Hon ANNE TOLLEY: The Government is running a number of programmes to help support young people into work. We are putting $15.4 million over the next 4 years into our Limited Service Volunteer scheme as part of Budget 2015. This programme provides educational motivational and job options to unemployed young people. This will result in 800 placements a year. We are funding an extension of our 3K to Christchurch scheme which has already seen 1300 people granted a one-off payment to relocate and take up a job offer in other parts of the country. Of these 465 grants were made to clients aged 16 to 14. So this Government is focused on providing a range of options to improve the employment prospects of young people in New Zealand.
Dowie Sarah: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDowie Sarah: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4477. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]3.SARAH DOWIE (National—Invercargill) to the Minister of Finance: What reports has he received showing that lower interest rates and a pick-up in construction activity are helping to support growth in the economy?Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance): Last week the Reserve Bank released its Monetary Policy Statement for June 2015 and it cut the official cash rate to 3.25 percent—just above a 50-year low for interest rates. The bank said that the economy is growing at around 3 percent a year supported by low interest rates continued growth in construction activity high net migration and a decline in fuel prices. It noted risks including weaker prospects for dairy prices and higher petrol prices. It indicated that these could slow income and demand growth. Annual inflation remains near zero. The Reserve Bank’s outlook is for solid real growth in the economy.Sarah Dowie: What is the Reserve Bank’s outlook for growth employment and household savings?Hon BILL ENGLISH: The forecasts for these are reasonably strong. It forecasts that economic output will increase by an average of 3 percent for each of the next 3 years. Total employment growth is expected to be 1.5 percent over the next 3 years—above recent averages—with unemployment expected to fall to 5 percent. Household savings are expected to remain positive and well above long-term averages at 2 percent to 3 percent of disposable income.Sarah Dowie: What other reports has he received on the outlook for the New Zealand economy?Hon BILL ENGLISH: Earlier this week the New Zealand Institute of Economic Research released its consensus forecast—that is it compiles all the economic forecasts that are done. It says that although the outlook has been pared back slightly following the fall in dairy prices forecasters expect average annual growth of nearly 3 percent in the 3 years to 2018 and it notes particularly that the labour market is a positive aspect of the outlook. Export growth is expected to pick up over 2016 in spite of slowing activity in trading partners. These forecasts are consistent with the moderate sustainable growth that underpins the Budget.Sarah Dowie: What alternative reports has he seen on interest rates?Hon BILL ENGLISH: I have received two particular reports lately. The first report said that households were worse off because of high interest rates. The second report received last week following the Reserve Bank’s cut in the official cash rate said that lower interest rates apparently show that the economy is on a downward slide. If sustained growth of 3 percent and 150000 more jobs by 2019 is the economy on a slide then that is not too bad. Both of these reports came from an organisation that apparently thinks that both higher interest rates and lower interest rates are bad for the New Zealand economy. It could be only one organisation—the New Zealand Labour Party.
Mark Ron: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMark Ron: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4475. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]RON MARK (NZ First): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: Is this a fresh point of order which I asked Chris Hipkins to raise or a continuation of the other—RON MARK: Well it pertains to comments made by the Leader of the House and the whole discussion to this point raises another question and I respectively ask you whether you could take some time to consider and come back and give us your views on the wider issue. It would appear to New Zealand First that if we simply asked the question “Does he stand by his statements” putting it to a Minister or the Prime Minister the question would remain with that person. When we try to give some assistance by referring to what the subject of the Prime Minister’s comment was and then the Government exercised its right under the Standing Order to shift it that could well become a tactic to avoid having the Prime Minister answer any question that he does not understand the details of.Mr SPEAKER: Order! I have heard quite enough on this matter. As I said earlier it is well accepted through Speakers’ rulings for a long period of time that the Government has the right to decide who has the responsibility and is best entitled to answer that question. On that basis the Government transferred the question. There will subsequently be an adjustment to words. What is in the Prime Minister’s head is not the essence of this question. The question at the time is about holding the Government to account for its policies. On this occasion the Government has decided to transfer it. That is the end of the matter. A question can be asked and indeed will be asked by the Rt Hon Winston Peters.
Brownlee Gerry: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4475. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): It is one of those days Mr Speaker—it is one of those days. The Speaker’s ruling that you quoted—168/2—does go on to make it clear that notwithstanding the claims made by Mr Hipkins matters that go to “Does someone stand by” certain statements do not meet the test as to whether or not the person initially being asked the question could possibly be the only person to give the answer. When the question was seen this morning it was reasonable to expect that it was going to be of a relatively technical nature because we know that is the general thrust of inquiry from the Rt Hon Winston Peters. We therefore felt it most appropriate that the technical information could be provided by a Minister who had that responsibility.
Carter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4475. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: If the member wants to take the time I will welcome—
Hipkins Chris: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHipkins Chris: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4475. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]—CHRIS HIPKINS (Senior Whip—Labour): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: I have dealt with this matter. If it a fresh point of order I am happy to hear it.CHRIS HIPKINS: It is indeed a fresh point of order. In ruling on this issue of transfer previously Speakers have indicated that one of the tests that they would apply in applying the Speakers’ rulings is: could somebody be expected to know what was in the head of somebody else when they made a statement? One of the issues here is if we ask a very broad question of the Prime Minister such as “Does he stand by all of his statements?” you would be quite at liberty to rule that when asked a very specific supplementary question the Prime Minister could not be expected to know about it because he would not have been given notice. So one of the things that the Opposition will try on occasion to do is give an indication of the broad nature of the topics to be debated. If that then means that the Prime Minister can automatically transfer the question to somebody else it does create a situation where we cannot question the Prime Minister on anything specific.Hon Gerry Brownlee: Speaking to the point of order—
Carter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4475. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member will resume his seat. I will give the member one final warning. If he wants to ask the question he rises to his feet and asks it; if he does not he will not be in the House to ask it in the first place.
Peters Winston: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4475. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]—Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First): There is no suggestion that I do not want to ask the question Mr Speaker—Mr SPEAKER: Order! Well then ask it.Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: I was seeking your advice.Mr SPEAKER: Then ask it otherwise the member would not be—Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: Oh so seeking counsel is not a good idea?
Carter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4474. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! As I said earlier it is not my job to design the questions but the member himself frequently comes in and asks the Prime Minister whether he stands by all his statements. That would have got the member past step 1 on that occasion. He could have done that. This question has been accepted. It will be asked if the member wants to ask it. If he does not I am very comfortable with moving immediately to question No. 3.
Peters Winston: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4474. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First):I am aware of the ruling. What I am asking you is if one is seeking to get a Minister to stand by that Minister’s statements or the Prime Minister to stand by his how would one phrase the question other than in the way I phrased it which was: “Does he stand by all his statements regarding the electricity market; if so why?”. If I was to avoid the outcome how would you suggest I draft it? To be within the Standing Orders—
Carter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4474. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: It is not my job to phrase the questions. My job is to judge whether they meet the Standing Orders. On this occasion if the member looks at Speakers’ rulings 168 a number of rulings there will confirm to him that the Government has the right to determine where the question goes. So it transfers the question. Subsequent to a transfer there is often a change of wording required to make it sensible. This question has now been accepted and it will be asked today if the member wants to otherwise I am quite happy to move to the next question.
Peters Winston: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4474. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. It is by way of seeking your advice for the future because we put in a question asking—[Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order! This is a point of order; I wish to hear it in silence.Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: I am seeking your counsel and advice in this matter because we put in a question asking whether the Prime Minister stood by his statements and then after 11 a.m. which is quite unique in our experience the question was switched to the Minister of Energy and Resources. My question is how you would phrase the question to avoid the outcome that we have just experienced whereby in seeking the Prime Minister standing by his own statements we have now got the Minister of Energy and Resources saying whether he stands by the Prime Minister’s statements which is not remotely what we were asking.
Coleman Jonathan: Ministerial Statements — Southern District Health Board—Replacement of BoardText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeColeman Jonathan: Ministerial Statements — Southern District Health Board—Replacement of Board[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4472. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Health): I just want to reassure the people of Otago and Southland that this is about delivering sustainable services over the long term and the public deserve nothing less. As I have said the financial situation in the Southern District Health Board just could not continue and that is why today’s announcement has been made. It has been carefully considered and it is the right course of action.On the point of decisiveness well it does not really come any more decisive than installing a commissioner. And to our political opponents I am very grateful that across the House people are supporting this decision but I would note that if I had removed the board in the first couple of weeks you would have had something considerable to say about that.There has been a lot of money go into the Southern District Health Board—$135 million extra over the last 7 years and a huge increase in the number of doctors and nurses. As to the argument that a deficit indicates underfunding Labour left a combined district health board deficit of $150 million; we have got that down to $50 million. So by that argument you would say that it was actually Labour that was underfunding. But the point is that a deficit actually indicates that the money available is not being allocated correctly.In regard to the population-based funding formula that has been the system that has always been used. What I would say is the Government has a very high level of confidence in this team. They are local people they have got the right set of complementary skills and I know that the Government and the House will wish them well. It is a tough task and they need all the support they can get to get the job done but there is no question that a new approach to the Southern District Health Board’s issues is required and that is what I have announced today.