Woods MeganHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Energy and Resources): Thank you and I'm happy to take a call and answer questions. Just to give the committee an indication I will batch questions up to answer them so if you want to keep going with questions they will be addressed. In terms of the question that was put to me by the National Party Opposition spokesperson about whether what we're experiencing at Pohokura at the moment and I've received advice is because of a lack of investment the answer is no that is certainly not the advice I've received. In fact in terms of working with OMV even over the lockdown period where we couldn't get people across the border we were working under the critical worker exemption to make sure that we could keep the workforce that was required right across the energy sector including in the gas sector to make sure those workers were crossing the border. That work is seasonal when it comes to fixing issues on pipelines.So what we're seeing is I think the grim reality for many people that gas is no silver bullet for security of supply of electricity in New Zealand. The electricity issue that we're seeing at the moment is largely the failure of gas within our system and actually points to how we have to look at alternatives for addressing the issue of dry-year risk and that gas is no cast-iron way in which we can ensure security of supply.In terms of whether or not I've sought advice on LNG my understanding is that the Gas Industry Company report will provide some advice on LNG—wasn't something that was included in my original request to them but my understanding is that that will be included when it comes to me. In regard to the question of have I received it not yet but I expect to very soon and I expect its release will be imminent after that.In terms of the appointment to the TAG—the technical advisory group—for the Onslow project I'd just like to point to one of the people that's being examined and questioned as to whether she should be there Amanda Larsson who has a Master's of science in ecological economics. She's worked internationally on questions around this and brings not only a perspective but also a great deal of expertise. So I think we need to be very careful before we start singling out individuals and questioning whether or not they should be there. In order to adequately assess what is a really serious issue for New Zealand we have to make sure that we have a range of expertise sitting around the table.When it comes to the question that was put to me—and I think a sensible question—from the ACT Party about whether or not it should be decarbonising of energy or electricity I actually don't see this as a dichotomy. In order to address one we have to address the elephant in the room and that is how it is that we address dry-year risk. In order for us to get to 100 percent renewable electricity we have to address how it is that we'd prepare for a year such as we're going through now. In order to do that that allows for further electrification of our energy system. So it's not a matter of disagreeing or not disagreeing; I just simply don't buy into the dichotomy that many in the industry try and paint between energy and electricity. When I think of it I think of it as an energy system.