Edmonds BarbaraHon BARBARA EDMONDS (Labour—Mana): Thank you Madam Chair. I do want to acknowledge the Minister the Hon Chris Penk's back and forth in providing answers to a number of our questions. But there was one question which I had asked the Minister around Working for Families and tax transfers in relation to a figure that the Minister had provided—that around $50 billion is forecasted to be collected for individuals which is obviously part of the schedule which is part of Subpart BB which is part of the Income Tax Act which this bill is trying to amend. So to the Minister if I need to kind of clarify I just want to know how much Working for Families is forecasted to be given back out or tax transfers given back out to individuals. I just want to see how much individuals are being taxed through salary and wages which based on the figures given by the Minister is around $50 billion and how much of that they get back through a tax transfer—so in-work tax credit minimum family tax credit—which the Minister can provide.I did actually have another question however—to give officials a bit more time to have a look at it. It's a particular question around some of the Minister's statements to the member Chlöe Swarbrick around the timing of this Amendment Paper. If I can quickly summarise the member for the Green Party the co-leader had asked the Minister why this particular Amendment Paper which contains aspects both from Part 1 and Part 2 around the interest deductibility rules and the brightline changes—why it was necessary for the Minister to include it as part of this tax bill. But there were aspects as part of the Budget which is the income tax threshold changes which they had campaigned on—they had made a decision to do it later as part of the Budget. The Minister's response to that is that if it could be brought forward before May it would. So my question to the Minister is: who actually made that decision to bring forward this Amendment Paper? Obviously it's in the Minister's name but I just want to clarify: was it the Minister of Revenue or a Minister of Finance or a joint Ministers' paper that went to Cabinet to approve this Amendment Paper coming through? Or actually it could be the Associate Minister of Finance because David Seymour has taken claim for that particular interest deductibility rule change which is in this Amendment Paper. So who specifically was that Cabinet paper in the name of?Then my next question is: under what criteria did they believe that that Amendment Paper should be brought forward before the Budget? I'm really hoping that the Minister can provide some criteria that his Government his executive have basically set out as to what meets a particular threshold as to why it should be put through in this particular tax bill. Because as other members of the committee have quite concernedly said there are obviously time pressures for this bill. It needs to be passed this week on Thursday; if not if we go into Saturday then Parliament is not allowed to collect any tax on Friday because it's Good Friday and we can't sit because it's Good Friday. And as a result there are some concerns on this side that this Amendment Paper which has basically bulked the bill up which has not been subject to select committee scrutiny and yet it could actually be subject to select committee scrutiny as part of that Budget process later—just wanting to understand what the criteria were that the Minister used or the Ministers responsible for the Cabinet paper used that took this to Cabinet to approve it so that this Amendment Paper could be introduced in order to make that decision that this should be brought forward before May. And those were the words used by the Minister: brought forward before May".On this side of the House we believe there are actually some other pressing types of policies that could have been brought forward before May which we will probably discuss quite in depth as part of Part 2. But I just want to ask that specific question to the Minister as part of Part 1."