Tisch Lindsay: Employment Relations (Secret Ballot for Strikes) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Tisch Lindsay: Employment Relations (Secret Ballot for Strikes) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 09 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:2115. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I just caution members if that is the case. I am not aware of that myself but I just caution members to be very careful in what they say. The second thing while I am on my feet is that while interjection is acceptable this is a robust debate and there are some strong feelings on both sides. I ask that instead of the shouting the interjections be reasonable so that I can actually not only hear the speaker but also hear the interjections as well.  
Denise Roche 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I am just wondering whether there is a Standing Order that caters for the circumstances where the person who is speaking is telling untruths.  
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: No you cannot say—[ 
Interruption 
] Order! This is an honourable House and members are taken at their word. If the member has some conflict or does not agree with what the member is saying that is a rebuttal point in a debate. These are matters of opinion and matters of debate. You cannot say that someone is lying. There is a Speaker’s ruling to that effect. You cannot say that someone is telling lies or lying. These are debatable points and the opportunity arises in debate—and I know that the party has an opportunity shortly—to respond by way of a 5 minute call. If the member or a member from the party is taking a call that is the chance then to rebut what has been said but you cannot say that a person is lying or has told lies.  
JAMI-LEE ROSS 
: I take it that the opposition from the Green Party earlier was about my reference to it not supporting freedom of choice and I absolutely stand by that comment. I absolutely stand by the comment that the Green Party does not support freedom of choice because it is not supporting this bill. It is not supporting workers having the option to make their own decision by way of secret ballot when it comes to deciding whether or not they go on strike. If Green members do support freedom of choice if they disagree with the comments I have made here this afternoon they should be voting for this piece of legislation.  
Finally I want to congratulate the Hon Tau Henare. In fact I probably should call him the Hon “Martin Luther” Henare given the number of comments and quotes he has made with regard to Martin Luther King here this afternoon. But he has done the right thing by putting this piece of legislation into the ballot shepherding it through the parliamentary process and bringing it to a third reading here this afternoon where we in this Parliament are able to help liberate workers and give them the freedom to make their own decisions during strike actions.  
Mr Henare has done a good job and this bill will go down in history as a piece of legislation that he can look back on and remember for doing something good for workers in New Zealand. I look forward to it being read for a third time this afternoon.