Salesa Jenny; McDowall James; O'Connor SimonParts 1 and 2 Schedule 1 and clauses 1 to 3CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is that Parts 1 and 2 Schedule 1 and clauses 1 to 3 stand part.Dr JAMES McDOWALL (ACT): Just a couple of issues to begin with—or questions I should say to the Minister. The first is around a new digitised system which is something I spoke about at a previous reading. So if the form is filled out online in advance—and I guess there's also another sub-question there: is the actual person who's travelling filling out the form and what is the enforcement around that? But if a form is submitted and the declaration is true at that given time but then circumstances do change and the traveller is now travelling to New Zealand and suddenly they do have amendments that they wish to make how will that be treated? So how will the enforcement sort of approach to that be? How much leeway can be given or is it possible to make those changes? And how would that work or would they just rely on a manual card at that point and have to volunteer to go down that route?SIMON O'CONNOR (National—Tāmaki): I'll keep listing through a few questions. Obviously the Minister's taking a number at a time and will then respond which is great. The second one—which has somewhat been described by my colleague who's just taken his seat—in effect is: is the Minister happy that this arrival card being filled out online is going to be done at the right time? The basic premise being there that—we've got the irony; again discussed—it's an arrival card which we're filling out before we arrive. At the moment I fill out the little blue piece of paper about an hour before I land. Strictly speaking we could be doing this Minister—well it would be good for you to elucidate to the committee whether it's 24 hours or 48 hours before. So it's picking up on the previous question. We're filling out an arrival card not at the moment of arrival but well before arrival and does the bill—again I do know the answers to this I must admit but it's always good to have it on record in Hansard—is she confident that we'll be capturing the right information? And to echo the previous person the honourable member: how does change get effected if all of a sudden I find I am bringing stuff into the country that I was not necessarily anticipating?The third question from myself relates to section 28B—in clause 4—which deal with offences. Does the Minister believe that $1000 is the appropriate level and—probably a question through her to her officials—does this align with other fines that we have? From vague memory—not that I've attempted to bring oranges apples and bananas into the country—I think we get hit with $400 or something. Do the fines align? And I'd prefer that we just hear that rather than I have to go and experiment and find myself paying a lot of money that I can't justify to my wife. Then we're moving across to more general questions around memorandums of understanding. So we've talked about filling out the cards and we've talked about whether or not the chief executive can—well how much leeway she or he has to write questions. It's also whether she feels that this law assures that the data is going to be sufficiently protected. We know there's a number of memorandums of understanding between the likes of Customs and other departments—IRD being a good case in point. Is she confident that this bill will not impact on those memoranda and secondly that yeah it's not going to impact on the use of those? And I think that's where I'll leave it for now if I might.