12. Question No. 12—Housing (Public Housing)BROOKE VAN VELDEN (Deputy Leader—ACT) to the Associate Minister of Housing (Public Housing)Question No. 12—Housing (Public Housing)12. BROOKE VAN VELDEN (Deputy Leader—ACT) to the Associate Minister of Housing (Public Housing): What criteria are used to determine which Kāinga Ora homes should have first priority when ensuring State-owned homes meet the healthy homes standards?Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Housing) on behalf of the Associate Minister of Housing (Public Housing): The approach in the first year prioritised homes with multiple young children elderly those with disabilities and those who had been through the previous Rheumatic Fever Prevention Programme who have been referred from district health boards. There is also an escalation process whereby customers that might need healthy homes intervention sooner can discuss their concerns with their tenancy manager.Brooke van Velden: Does she believe it is acceptable that a terminally ill man living in a Kāinga Ora home has to fight to get a heat pump in the middle of winter when private landlords under healthy homes standards coming into force tomorrow have been forced to install heat pumps?Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: In answer to the first part of the question do I think it is acceptable on behalf of the Minister no that is not acceptable and that's why Kāinga Ora have recognised this rectified the situation and apologised. In answer to the second part of the question which seemed to suggest there was a differentiation between the requirements under the healthy homes legislation on Kāinga Ora than private landlords: of course while for private landlords ultimately the last end date for compliance will be 2024 under some circumstances Kāinga Ora has an end date along with other community housing providers of 2023 for compliance with the legislation.Brooke van Velden: What does she say to the elderly woman who has been denied a heat pump multiple times and to the woman with severe asthma who has been in and out of hospital because her house a Kāinga Ora house isn't insulated?Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: On behalf of the Minister what I would say to those two tenants is there is an escalation process and if those cases have not been referred through an escalation process I ask that member—as members of Parliament across this House on a daily basis do—to bring that to the attention of Kāinga Ora. But I do point the member to the fact that this financial year 1256 upgrades to healthy homes standards have been completed as a result of escalations either through the Rheumatic Fever Prevention Programme or escalations through tenancy managers for at-risk tenants.Brooke van Velden: Can she guarantee that there are no other vulnerable people in Kāinga Ora homes suffering from living in a poor quality State home?Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: On behalf of the Minister no. That is why this is a Government that has put in place a requirement for us finally to provide housing whether that be in the private or the public sector that is healthy for people to live in. It is also precisely why as we need the time to roll this out as private landlords have we have put in place an escalation process so that if we do discover people that do require quicker interventions we are in a position to do so.