Doocey Matt; Verrall AyeshaMATT DOOCEY (National—Waimakariri): Thank you very much Madam Chair. I just wanted to take a slightly different track and elucidate for the many listeners and viewers today the issue we had at the Health Committee about hearing the annual reviews because I think it's actually reflective of the reform in Pae Ora. What I mean by that with the health restructure is that normally the annual reviews—and I'm sure Dr Shane Reti will agree with me—are an important time for the Opposition to ask questions of the organisations and entities and hold them to account. Normally at that select committee when there was a district health board (DHB) structure the chief executives and teams of maybe up to six eight or 10 of those leadership teams would attend so that they could answer every question in detail.The issue we had this time is of course when each DHB turned up there was only one or two health professionals who could answer very little of the questions. So in fact the reason why some of the reports are—well in fact to be honest the reason why we haven't even received some information from the DHBs and the ones we did when we wanted to drill down into the issues deeper we had representatives from those entities who weren't over the issues.Why I think this is reflective of what we're going to experience going forward for the annual review process in Parliament but also the experience of the public and constitute MPs is that now that we have this mega-entity there is in fact going to be no people who can answer questions on the ground. As a constituent MP when I have an issue about one of my constituents who needs better healthcare I used to be able to go to the DHB CEO; I can't do that any more—in fact I'm given a generic email address to go to customer inquiries and fight my way through that bureaucratic process. That's what our experience was on the select committee. I'm not sure how select committee members are going to be able to drill down to health issues in their region when we'll have people who won't understand where Rangiora is and they won't be able to understand the pressures of North Canterbury. So it is going to be interesting to ask the Minister to take a call today and explain to us how Health New Zealand is going to be able to respond better than they did during the annual reviews that we experienced in the Health Committee.Hon Dr AYESHA VERRALL (Minister of Health): I can address some of the questions posed by Dr Reti. So firstly question one: the unaudited deficit was $378 million across all district health boards which is $172 million favourable to budget. The final audited result is still to come because of evaluations about the impact of Holidays Act liabilities on that number.The Te Whatu Ora Budget 2022 contingencies for operation expenditure that have been drawn down to date are $742 million. Te Whatu Ora inherited at July 2022 as a new agency 1100 contingent workers and that is reduced to 850 at the end of March.The question about consultancy I can tell the member that the person concerned is no longer an employee at the health agency where they were working and also that the review is under consideration for release at the moment by officials.With respect to question six about first specialist appointments: over 2021-22 they increased during the COVID period but now we are seeing an increase reflecting improving access to care. Of course the member knows we continue to work very hard on those figures.