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Tremain Chris: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Tremain Chris: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:17261] 
11. 
CHRIS TREMAIN (National—Napier) 
 to the  
Minister of Transport 
: What progress has been made on roading projects in the Hawke’s Bay region? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Transport) 
: 
 Heaps. I was privileged last Friday to open the first two roading projects completed thanks to the Government’s 2009 half-billion-dollar jobs and growth stimulus package. The first to open was over 12 months ahead of schedule—the Matahorua Gorge realignment on State Highway 2 between Napier and Gisborne. The 3-kilometre alignment removes the sharp twists of the old route eliminating closures and delays caused by adverse weather or crashes. This will have significant benefits for all road users. The project was completed on time and under budget due to the contractor’s innovative bridge design and construction. Over 140 workers were on site for the course of the construction and its completion is a tribute to all stakeholders. 
Stuart Nash 
: What reason did the Minister give to Alan Dick the then-chair of the Hawke’s Bay Regional Council when he summoned him to Wellington last year to tell him he was taking away the $71 million raised through Hawke’s Bay excise tax from the New Zealand Transport Agency fund for Hawke’s Bay to spend it on roading infrastructure in Hawke’s Bay? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: That question is wrong on so many levels. I point out to the member that the Government has invested substantially more in State highway construction than the previous Government was planning to spend—billions more over the next 10 years; $3 billion to $4 billion I think from memory—and it has not been taking funding away from Hawke’s Bay. It is investing very significantly right around the country much greater funding than the previous Government was intending to invest. 
Stuart Nash 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I want to clarify: is that what he told Alan Dick when— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: That is not a point of order. 
Craig Foss 
: What improvements have been made to the Hawke’s Bay Expressway due to the Government’s transport stimulus project? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: More good news! The Hawke’s Bay Expressway southern extension was the second project opened last Friday following its acceleration by the Government’s half-billion-dollar jobs and growth package. The southern extension is the last piece of the expressway which has been on the book since the 1960s. Its completion better connects Hastings Napier and the airport and removes two busy intersections as well as a crash black spot. There were over 170 workers on site during the course of construction. The project provided local jobs and contributed to the economy during the economic downturn. The completion of these projects is great news for the locals but it is just part of a wider multimillion-dollar investment that the Government has made in new State highway construction in the Hawke’s Bay region under the current National Land Transport Programme.
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17378] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 57; Maori Party 3; United Future 1. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 6; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendment agreed to.
Robertson Grant: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Robertson Grant: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:17261] 
GRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central) 
: 
 I omitted to do this earlier. I seek leave of the House to table a document prepared by the Wakatipu Health Trust. It is a question and answer document that includes the statement that the Southern District Health Board chief Brian Rousseau told the mayor that he had the Minister of Health’s support for the sale of Lakes District Hospital. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table this document. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17366] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Noes 113 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 6; Maori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 218 in the name of Hilary Calvert to omit the heading to clause 81 and clause 81(1) and (2) be agreed to.
Fenton Darien: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Fenton Darien: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:17260] 
10. 
DARIEN FENTON (Labour) 
 to the  
Minister of Labour 
: What factors did she consider in deciding to increase the minimum wage by 25c from 1 April in her latest review? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON (Minister of Labour) 
: 
 I considered a range of factors as set out in the Cabinet paper which is available on the Department of Labour’s website. Some of the factors I considered were the impacts on unemployment job creation and low-paid workers. I concluded that in difficult economic times a cautious approach was required and that protecting jobs was paramount. 
Darien Fenton 
: Will the 100000 people on or near the minimum wage find it easier or harder to meet the rising cost of living after her 25c increase in the minimum wage given that the Department of Labour advised her that the increase does not constitute a real increase in the minimum wage? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON 
: I think the important factor is that they will have a job. If Labour had its way they would not have a job and it would be even more difficult for them to meet the costs of living. 
Darien Fenton 
: Did she consider the Department of Labour’s advice that increasing the minimum wage to $13.50 which would put $76 million into the pockets of 100000 Kiwis would have a negligible effect on total employment and thus would not be likely to constrain the job market? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON 
: I considered the advice but I was not willing to put at risk the between 480 and 640 jobs that might have been lost had we increased the minimum wage to $13.50. 
Darien Fenton 
: Why did she not increase the wage to at least $13.50 when it would have put an extra $76 million into the pockets of low-paid Kiwis and into the economy at a time when those Kiwis are struggling to meet rapidly rising food petrol childcare health and other costs? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON 
: As I have said protecting jobs was a paramount consideration. We looked at what we considered was the most sustainable realistic and fair option and we did not want to risk the loss of 600 jobs. 
Darien Fenton 
: Is she concerned by the fact that the National Government’s increases to the minimum wage have consistently been lower than increases to the average wage meaning that the poorest Kiwis are falling further and further behind? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON 
: I can say that since being elected into Government we have increased the minimum wage by $40 a week. At the end of the day it is a matter of finding a balance and getting the most sustainable realistic and fair option whilst protecting jobs.
Goodhew Jo: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Goodhew Jo: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:17258] 
7. 
JO GOODHEW (National—Rangitata) 
 to the  
Minister of Education 
: What progress has been made on reopening Christchurch schools and early childhood education centres since the 22 February earthquake? 
Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister of Education) 
: 
 By the end of yesterday 77 percent of all schools had reopened and we currently expect that 94 percent of schools will be open by Monday of next week. In addition 237 early childhood centres—that is 70 percent—have opened in Christchurch and by Monday of next week 265 are expected to be open. 
Jo Goodhew 
: What initiatives have been put in place for those children whose school has not yet reopened? 
Hon ANNE TOLLEY 
: In addition to individual schools providing out-of-school learning initiatives the Ministry of Education has set up 10 learning hubs and more will be set up if they are needed. These hubs are available for children in years 1 to 8 and provide a supervised learning environment. They are proving popular with children and by 10 a.m. today 334 children had enrolled.
Joyce Steven: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Joyce Steven: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:17258] 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister for Communications and Information Technology) 
: 
 I seek leave to make a correction to an answer I gave to question No. 4 earlier. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for the Minister to make a correction to an answer. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is no objection. 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: I transposed a date. Instead of 16 January I should have said 16 February. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I thank the Minister.
Cunliffe David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Cunliffe David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:17264] 
2. 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
 to the  
Chairperson of the Finance and Expenditure Committee 
: How many submitters on the Telecommunications (TSO Broadband and Other Matters) Amendment Bill have requested an oral hearing? 
CRAIG FOSS (Chairperson of the Finance and Expenditure Committee) 
:  
Twenty-four submitters have requested an oral hearing. 
Hon David Cunliffe 
: Is the chairperson satisfied that the committee has provided sufficient time to hear and consider all those submissions before the report-back date of 16 May? 
Mr SPEAKER 
: What the committee does is not a matter the— 
Hon David Cunliffe 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I have before me a  
Hansard 
 transcript of questions to members including a question to the chairperson of the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee of 14 September 2010 when an almost identical question by my colleague Darien Fenton was allowed to be asked of the chairperson David Bennett. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: If I erred on that occasion I apologise to the House but the chairperson is not responsible for decisions of the committee.
Parker David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Parker David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:17257] 
6. 
Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
 to the  
Acting Minister for Economic Development 
: Has he been advised by the Prime Minister whether his appointment as Acting Minister for Economic Development is temporary or expected to carry on to the election? 
Hon DAVID CARTER (Acting Minister for Economic Development) 
: 
 No. I serve at the pleasure of the Prime Minister. 
Hon David Parker 
: Given that it appears that his appointment is at least for the foreseeable future can he tell the House what new plans he has as Acting Minister for Economic Development to stop the slide in the New Zealand economy? 
Hon DAVID CARTER 
: I intend to follow the very strong focus of this Government on an economic growth agenda. We need to improve trade opportunities and we want to invest in innovation—Labour opposes that. We intend to reform a lot of poor regulations—Labour opposes that. We intend to improve skills—Labour opposes that. We intend to spend more money on infrastructure—Labour opposes that. We have already much improved the tax system—Labour opposed that. 
Hon David Parker 
: Why does his Government still not take responsibility for New Zealand’s slide when even business commentators are now saying: “If bombed-out economies such as the US and the UK are showing strong signs of investment-led recovery why aren’t we?” 
Hon DAVID CARTER 
: The member who should take responsibility for the slide in New Zealand’s economic performance is that member and his Government who neglected the economy for 9 long years. 
Hon David Parker 
: Is the real reason for the economy not prospering that National’s steps to transform the economy have been timid and have merely tinkered around the edges when strong steps are needed to make new exports thrive? 
Hon DAVID CARTER 
: Absolutely no. 
Hon David Parker 
: Is the Minister saying that he is happy with the performance of the economy and the steps his Government has taken to date given that even business commentators are saying that “The new recession is the Government’s—it must own up.”? When will he own up? 
Hon DAVID CARTER 
: No I am not happy with the performance of the economy. But it is very evident to me that it takes a long long time to turn round an economy that was so dramatically neglected by the previous Labour administration.
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17301] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I hear what you are saying. There has been some heat in this over the last half hour. The member took offence; the member has apologised. The point has been very well made. Everyone should know to respect other people’s rights in this House. This is a House of Representatives where everyone should be treated fairly and without prejudice in any way. I ask all members—I am not referring to any particular member—to take on board what has been said and respect people’s rights.
Borrows Chester: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Borrows Chester: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:17254] 
3. 
CHESTER BORROWS (National—Whanganui) 
 to the  
Minister of Finance 
: What reports has he received on the economy’s prospects after New Zealand meets the immediate challenges of the Christchurch earthquake? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) 
: 
 Both Treasury and the Reserve Bank expect economic growth to be weaker in the first half of the year but to pick up strongly in 2012. The Reserve Bank forecasts GDP peaking at about 5 percent next year and unemployment falling below 5 percent. These forecasts recognise a number of favourable factors for the economy: high commodity prices both interest rates and inflation being expected to stay low the exchange rate with Australia being the most competitive in 20 years and households significantly lifting their savings rates. 
Chester Borrows 
: What are some of the likely costs the Government will face as a result of the earthquake? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: Although the costs of the earthquake are likely to be significant and may delay growth in the economy we still agree with the Reserve Bank and Treasury views that next year we are likely to see significant economic growth. But the costs are likely to include about $3 billion of residential property claims to the Earthquake Commission significant contributions from the Government to the cost of roading water and sewerage systems in Christchurch some costs for land remediation and significant costs that are being incurred now for welfare assistance and temporary housing. They are significant costs but they will be manageable. 
Chester Borrows 
: What will the earthquake mean for the Government’s wider economic programme to build a faster-growing economy and higher incomes? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: The earthquake has simply made it more important that the Government press on with its programme to build on savings exports and productive investment. The costs we are incurring now will mean that we have to take on more debt in the short term. But of course a stronger economy will mean that later on we have more capacity to repay that debt. 
Hon David Cunliffe 
: Why should New Zealanders have any more confidence in these forecasts of a rebound in 2012 than in those in Budgets 2009 and 2010 which had all been consistently revised downwards prior to the earthquake because of low growth high unemployment falling revenues and National’s deepening recession? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: It will be up to them of course. New Zealanders will make their own decisions about whether to invest more or spend more. Over the last couple of years they have wisely been careful with their spending and increased their savings. I expect that as their confidence picks up as the rebuild gets going they will be willing to invest more in the productive side of the economy. When they have their debt levels right—that is when they have got their debt down—they may start spending a bit more.
Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:17251] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The question of who answers questions is a matter totally for the Government. I repeat what I said a moment ago. If I as Speaker perceive that a question is being transferred from the only Minister who could possibly have the information that is the focus of the question I would become very concerned. If the question was being transferred to avoid its being answered by the only Minister who could possibly have responsibility for or knowledge of the matter that would be a serious matter. In the transfer of this question I would expect the Minister to have knowledge of what the Prime Minister has been advised. The question of whether he divulges that information to the House and whether it is in the public interest to do so is another matter. But if the question is being transferred I would expect that the Minister would have knowledge of the subject matter.
Mallard Trevor: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Mallard Trevor: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:17250] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I know that the transfer of questions is fraught. I have had a discussion on this issue with your office not about the ability of Ministers to transfer questions but about what happens with the wording of the question when one has been transferred as this one has been. This question as you know was originally drafted to ask about the Prime Minister’s knowledge of a particular situation. We accept his right to choose not to answer the question and to transfer it. My question is whether when a question is transferred to another Minister we can get a better format in relation to the words when the question is about the actual advice especially from the Prime Minister’s office and his department which we are focusing on and which no other Minister can have responsibility for.
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17353] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Noes 115 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 8; Maori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 217 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 66(5) be agreed to.
Dean Jacqui: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Dean Jacqui: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17292] 
JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17374] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Noes 113 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 6; Maori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 218 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 88(a) to omit “on and” and substitute “two weeks” be agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17313] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: We have the remaining amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 47(1). These are out of order. We now move to the amendment to clause 47(2) in the name of Hilary Calvert. This is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision of the Committee. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 207 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to clause 47(4) to (7) be agreed to.
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17364] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Noes 112 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 5; Maori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 218 in the name of Hilary Calvert to insert new clause 78(1A) be agreed to.
Roy Eric: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Roy Eric: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17375] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Hilary Calvert’s amendment to omit the heading to clause 89 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 218 is now out of order. Hilary Calvert’s amendment to clause 89(1) to omit “group and substitute “group or wahi tapu group” is now out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 218 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 89(1) to omit “must” and substitute “may” be agreed to.
Mallard Trevor: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Mallard Trevor: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17299] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I thank the Chairman for his summary. What he has said as to what the issue is is absolutely correct. The Standing Orders are clear that when someone votes they give the number and the direction of the vote. We heard a series of votes from Hone Harawira that did not do that but they were interpreted by the interpreter in a way that corrected his breach of the Standing Orders. As a result the Clerk and the Chair were not aware of the fact that he breached the Standing Orders. 
I suppose it is a little naughty to plead guilty to deliberately breaching the Standing Orders but I wanted to test the system to see whether in fact the interpreter was correcting members to bring them within the Standing Orders when they were clearly outside. In my view it is not the role of the interpreter to do that. If someone is breaching the Standing Orders in Maori then the Chair should be made aware of that just as all of our Chairs would be aware of breaches of the Standing Orders if they were made in English. 
To use Hone Harawira’s example he cast a vote on behalf of his family. If I did that when you were in the Chair in the House Mr Speaker I think it is fair to say that I would get a pretty quick reaction from you. It is my view that it is not the role of the interpreter to tidy up after members who are breaching the Standing Orders.
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17355] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Noes 114 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 7; Maori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 217 in the name of Hilary Calvert to 68(2)(a) to omit “$300000” and substitute “50 cents” be agreed to.
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17361] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Noes 112 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 5; Maori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 218 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 77(1) be agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17308] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The next amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to the heading to clause 39 as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214 is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision of the Committee. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 39(1) (1)(a) and (b) be agreed to.
Young Jonathan: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Young Jonathan: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17245] 
JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17348] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The next amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert is to clause 61(1)(a)(i) to omit “substantial interruption” and substitute “interruption of 366 consecutive days or longer” as set out Supplementary Order Paper 217. This is now out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision of the Committee. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 217 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 61(1)(a)(i) to omit “1840” and substitute “6 February 1840” be agreed to.
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17344] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Noes 116 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; Maori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 217 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 55(1) be agreed to.
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17370] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Noes 113 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 6; Maori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 218 in the name of Hilary Calvert to omit the heading to clause 82 be agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17357] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The next amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert is to clause 71 as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 217. The question is that the amendment be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye— 
Hon John Boscawen 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. You said “the amendment to clause 71”. There are a number of amendments to clause 71. Are you referring to all of the amendments proposed? Are you referring to just the first one? I could not understand from your call which amendment or amendments you were referring to. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am advised that there is only one amendment to clause 71 so that is what I am putting. 
Hon John Boscawen 
: I am looking at page 14 of Supplementary Order Paper 217. I can see under clause 71 “Subclause (1): to omit ‘of Conservation’ ” “Subclause (1)(a): to omit ‘ unless the person …’ ” “Subclause (1)(b): to omit ‘not’ ” “Subclause (1)(b): to omit ‘until the’ …”. There are a number of amendments at the bottom of page 14 of Supplementary Order Paper 217. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: As I have advised previously with other clauses there is only one question on clause 71 which covers all those subclauses that you have mentioned. That is how we have previously done it during the course of the votes. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 217 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 71 be agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17306] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The next amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert are to the definition of “Minister” in clause 32(1) as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214. These are out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. We have amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 32(1) to the definitions of “reclaimed land” and “reclaimed land subject to this subpart”. These are out of order. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 32(2) be agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17313] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The next amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 46(1) and (2) is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision of the Committee. We have amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 46(3) to (5). These are out of order as they are inconsistent with a previous decision of the Committee. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 46(6) to omit “on” and substitute “as soon as practicable within 5 days of” be agreed to. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17309] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The next Hilary Calvert amendments are to clause 39(1)(c) (d) (e) (2) (2)(a) (b) (d) and (g) as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214. These are out of order. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 39(2)(e) and (f) be agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand National 57; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 59 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendments agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand National 57; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 58 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 8; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Motion agreed to. 
The result corrected after originally being announced as Ayes 62 Noes 59. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 11 as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214 to substitute or reorder words that do not alter the meaning of the bill are ruled out of order. The amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 12(1) as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214 to substitute words that do not alter the meaning of the bill are also ruled out of order. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 12(2) be agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 1 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand National 57; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 59 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Part 1 as amended agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand National 57; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 7; ACT New Zealand 4; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendment agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand National 57; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 58 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendments as amended agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 57; Maori Party 3; United Future 1. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 6; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendments as amended agreed to.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: We have the Minister’s remaining amendments as amended set out on Supplementary Order Paper 207 and Supplementary Order Paper 211. The question is— 
Hon David Parker 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. You might be able to correct me as to process here but it seems that in respect of the ACT Party’s amendments we had to take them clause by clause yet you are now proposing that we take all of these other ones which seem to include some individual amendments as one question. Is that in order? 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Yes. That is the Minister’s prerogative. 
Hon David Parker 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Can I have an assurance that we have had the Clerk of the House go through each of those amendments on the Supplementary Order Paper applying the same logic that was applied in respect of Hilary Calvert’s amendments and strike out those that are effectively inconsequential in terms of the change of meaning and therefore out of order on that same basis. When I read the Minister’s Supplementary Order Paper there are certainly some that would fit within that category. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Yes you have that assurance. 
Metiria Turei 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Just to be clear is this a vote on all the Minister’s amendments to Part 1 and to Part 1 only? 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Only to Part 1—the ones that have not been dealt with consequentially as we have moved through. 
The question was put that the remaining amendments to Part 1 as amended set out on Supplementary Order Papers 207 and 211 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson be agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment to the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand National 57; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 58 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendment to the amendment agreed to.
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Hon DARREN HUGHES (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 Labour has voted against the last two amendments. It voted 42 votes opposed.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Sit down! I have just quoted the Speaker’s ruling on what the member should do. I said earlier that if his intentions were known then from my point of view that was satisfactory. I asked the member to confirm quite clearly what his intent was and he said he voted against. That was very clear as far as I am concerned. 
But let me draw your attention to Speaker’s ruling 37/2 on the interpreter’s role: “The process of interpretation is not merely a matter of transliterating word for word from one language into another. Especially with languages as different in their origins as English and Maori this is not possible.” Speakers’ ruling 37/3 states: “The object of interpreting into English is to enable members listening to the member’s speech to have a reasonable but not necessarily total understanding of what is said. As all members have good facility in English it not necessary to interpret English into Maori. Interpretation is undertaken only when there is a practical need to do so.” I am very satisfied that the answer we got satisfies all—[ 
Interruption 
] We are not carrying on with this. I have made the points.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Noes 115 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; Maori Party 4; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 211 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to the proposed amendment to clause 7 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 207 in his name be agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand National 57; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 58 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Amendment agreed to. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: The Hon David Parker has a typescript amendment to omit clauses 8 and 9. That is now out of order as being the same in substance as the previous amendment. Metiria Turei’s amendment to omit clause 9 as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 206 is out of order for the same reason. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 209 in the name of Hilary Calvert to omit clause 10 be agreed to.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Ayes 47 Noes 73—the amendment is not agreed to.
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CHRIS TREMAIN (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 Yes. We are 57 they are 42. That has to be well over the numbers we are talking about.
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. It is a relatively short one. It is to seek an assurance through you Mr Chairperson that the member involved had his vote recorded in the way that he wished. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The translation is coming through very clear. I have no doubt— 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: But he did not hear the translation.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Hilary Calvert’s amendment to clause 78(2) as set out in Supplementary Order Paper 218 is now inconsistent and out of order. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 218 in the name of Hilary Calvert to omit clause 78(3) and (4) be agreed to.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: In this case I deem that “Conservation” and “Department of Conservation” are the same thing and under Speakers’ rulings 114/1 and 111/3 I have ruled it out. But I note what the member has said. So we move to Hilary Calvert’s amendment to clause 7 to amend the definition of “mana tuku iho” as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 209. The question is—
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Hon JOHN BOSCAWEN (Whip—ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I am not trying to waste your time; I really am very confused. If we go back to the beginning of clause 7—the Supplementary Order Paper I have is 209—the very first definition under clause 7 referring to “aquaculture activities” you ruled out of order. The next one on the definition of “Court” we voted on and it was lost. The next one—
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DAVID SHEARER (Labour—Mt Albert) 
: 
 When the House rose last night I was speaking on clause 11 and clause 14. Clause 11 is the definition of the common marine and coastal area itself. It refers to that as a no man’s land in effect that belongs to nobody. Although it is largely managed and will be regulated by the Crown it is a political twilight zone the like of which we have never seen before. It is a political piece of legislation and is not in any way designed to make this as Mr Key said “a durable solution”. 
I then spoke on clause 14. Clause 14 as members will recall repeals the Foreshore and Seabed Act 2004. I remind members of what was said about this Act by the regulatory impact statement of May 2010. It stated that “If it was not for the symbolic value of repeal and a desire to address the Crown ownership aspect of the Act then amendment could be an appropriate solution …”. In other words the extraordinary divisiveness this legislation has caused would have been unnecessary.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Sorry slow down. The next amendment to clause 7 we did vote on and it was lost— 
Hon John Boscawen 
: That was the definition of “Court”. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: The third amendment to clause 7 I have ruled out and now we are about to vote on the fourth one.
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Hon JOHN BOSCAWEN (Whip—ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. You just mentioned “Conservation”; the fourth is to omit “given” from the definition of “Crown entity”. I am looking at my Supplementary Order Paper—
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: “Director-General”— 
Hon John Boscawen 
: “Director-General” is about the sixth or seventh amendment in. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: The Hilary Calvert amendments to clause 7 that I have ruled out are to amend the definitions of “Director-General” “environment” “High Court Rules” and “local authority”. Those ones are not significantly different but the next one is so we are about to vote on it. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 209 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 7 relating to the definition of “mana tuku iho” be agreed to.