Brooking Rachel; Pugh MaureenHon RACHEL BROOKING (Labour—Dunedin): Thank you Madam Chair. My question is a very fundamental one for the Minister and goes to why we need any legislation at all. Of course we could all think about what those reasons might be that we are here in the House under urgency when of course it is not mandatory to have these regulations. Clause 5 of the bill repeals section 167A of the Land Transport Act 1998. Now section 167A is Regulations imposing fees and charges for purposes of clean vehicle discount scheme". Obviously this was introduced by the previous Government. This is in context of the part of the Land Transport Act that relates to regulations. There are many different regulations processes within that legislation so this one is specifically for the clean vehicle discount scheme and it says without limiting those other regulation purposes "for the purpose of promoting the transition of New Zealand's light vehicle fleet to zero- and low-emission vehicles and reducing vehicle carbon dioxide emissions may"—and I stress that word "may"— "be made under that provision providing for fees and charges to be paid". Then it goes on and says at subsection (3) "Regulations made … may"—this word "may" is used again and at subsection (5) of section 167A which is the one of the sections being repealed: "Regulations … may be made only on the recommendation of the Minister in accordance with subsection (7)." So again this is the Minister's discretion. There is a lot of "may". These regulations can of course be changed and there are some constraints in subsection (7) in that "The Minister must not recommend the making of regulations unless the Minister is satisfied—(a) that the fees or charges are appropriate to sustain a scheme designed to increase consumer demand for zero- and low-emission vehicles and decrease consumer demand for high-emission vehicles:"—a good aim I would say of course—"(b) that the imposition and level of fees or charges are appropriate after considering—(i) the variety and availability of zero- and low-emission vehicles expected to enter the New Zealand light vehicle market in the following 12 to 24 months; and (ii) the market behaviour of consumers including the nature of any continued demand for high-emission vehicles; and (iii) international and domestic climate change ambitions"—that's a good word isn't it?— "and commitments; and (iv) the anticipated impact of the fees and charges on the market; and (v) whether the estimated revenue to be received from the charges is sufficient to meet the costs and expenses of the clean vehicle discount scheme funded under … the Land Transport Management Act".So my question is: why do we need any of this repeal legislation today? All that the amendment did at some time during the Labour Government—I was not on the Transport and Infrastructure Committee and I can't remember exactly when the process happened. But all that they did was set up under these pieces of legislation the ability for regulations to do this clean vehicle discount scheme. So it appears that there is no need to do any of this primary legislation and that we can just rely on the secondary legislation and the processes that the Minister can determine. CHAIRPERSON (Maureen Pugh): I call Camilla Belich."