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Muller Todd: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMuller Todd: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7072. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]12.TODD MULLER (National—Bay of Plenty) to the Minister of Conservation: What recent announcements has she made about boosting community pest control?Hon MAGGIE BARRY (Minister of Conservation): Yesterday I opened the Queen Elizabeth the Second National Trust conference where I announced that the fight against introduced predators across New Zealand will receive a further $2.13 million boost through this year’s Community Conservation Partnerships Fund. This will mean that 31 community groups from Whangarei to Fiordland will be able to start new pest control measures expand existing efforts and make plans for the future. As part of the $8.4 million of Community Conservation Partnerships Fund funding this year $918000 will go towards the recently launched War on Weeds and an additional $345000 will be spent on wilding conifer control.Todd Muller: What other Community Conservation Partnerships Fund funding has she recently announced?Hon MAGGIE BARRY: Only this very morning I announced that nearly $570000 of Community Conservation Partnerships Fund funding will go towards six environmental education and outreach programmes to inspire our young people to get involved with protecting New Zealand’s natural world. For example $240000 will be going towards Mountains to Sea Conservation Trust and a further $66000 will go to Kids Restore the Kepler. Contact with nature as Opposition parties might like to note inspires creativity lifts achievement and helps to create lifelong interest in the natural world.
Carter David: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7068. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! The level of interjection has still not ceased. I invite the member to start his question again.
Ball Darroch: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBall Darroch: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7068. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DARROCH BALL (NZ First): To the Minister for Social Development. Did Serco visit the South Auckland Youth Justice facility Korowai Manaaki—[Interruption]
O'Connor Simon: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeO'Connor Simon: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7067. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]8.SIMON O’CONNOR (National—Tāmaki) to the Minister of Health: Can he confirm that a record 542000 patients received a first specialist assessment in the last 12 months and that a record 167000 patients received an elective surgery operation?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Health): Yes I can. The number of first specialist assessments and the number of elective surgery operations have increased year on year since this Government came into office. We are now delivering more services to more patients in our public health system than we have ever done before and we are keeping ahead of population growth. This increased level of hospital service is supported by the 5500 more doctors and nurses faster cancer care and free GP visits and prescriptions for 750000 children.Hon Annette King: I seek leave to table a letter from the consultant plastic surgeon of Hutt Valley District Health Board to a GP dated 1 September stating that they needed increased resources to be able to carry out the work needed for this gentleman.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought to table that particular letter. Is there any objection? There is none.Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.Hon Annette King: I seek leave to table three emails from Catherine of Whangarei the first dated 8 September where she said—Mr SPEAKER: Order! Just list all the emails and I will put the leave.Hon Annette King: The second one is from the 14 November saying there had been no action and the third one is from the 22 September saying that nothing had been done.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought to table those particular three emails. Is there any objection? [Interruption] Order! There is no objection. [Interruption]Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.Mr SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] Order! If the Hon Annette King and the Hon Jonathan Coleman wish to continue their conversation I could assist by asking them both to leave the Chamber. Is that their wish?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: No I did that last week.Mr SPEAKER: Yes you did. So I suggest that if you want to have your conversation leave voluntarily but if you need to continue the conversation I will assist by making it a compulsory situation.
Parmar Parmjeet: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeParmar Parmjeet: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7065. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]6.Dr PARMJEET PARMAR (National) to the Minister for Social Development: What recent reports has she received regarding the state of Child Youth and Family?Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister for Social Development): Today I released the expert advisory panel’s report into Child Youth and Family. The report builds on the Children’s Commissioner’s recent state of care report and shows that New Zealand’s child protection system is not delivering effectively for vulnerable children and young people and that transformational change is required. The key findings from the report are that there has been a high and growing proportion of repeat notifications and that there are concerning levels of revictimisation amongst children in care. The panel also found high levels of complex needs among many of the families of children coming to the attention of Child Youth and Family; an overrepresentation of Māori children in the system; and poor long-term outcomes for children in State care despite significant fiscal expenditure. The panel has now started work on a detailed business case and future operating model which it will provide to the Government by the end of the year.Dr Parmjeet Parmar: What steps is the panel taking to develop a detailed business case?Hon ANNE TOLLEY: In its interim report the expert panel has set out four key areas that will underpin the new operating model. Firstly the system must be child centred. Secondly an investment approach must be taken where data and evidence on what works are used to target earlier intervention. Thirdly an effective professional framework must be established to allow staff to use their professional judgment rather than focus on rules compliance and time-driven practice. Finally the model needs to engage all New Zealanders and communities to provide loving stable homes for vulnerable children and to support them in their communities. A feasibility study on the use of an actuarial valuation to support that investment approach is already under way and the panel is engaging with the philanthropic sector to develop a new child advocacy service and a plan to better engage all New Zealanders to build an understanding of what role they can play.
McKelvie Ian: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMcKelvie Ian: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7060. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]2.IAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei) to the Minister of Finance: How many more jobs have been created in New Zealand since the economy started recovering from the global financial crisis?Hon PAULA BENNETT (Associate Minister of Finance): on behalf of theMinister of Finance: Economic growth is the best way of delivering more jobs and higher incomes to New Zealanders. Since the start of 2011 New Zealand has had 18 consecutive quarters of economic growth the economy has expanded 12.6 percent after inflation and there are 199000 more jobs in the economy. Recent forecasts show continuing moderate growth of 2 to 2.5 percent over the next 2 years with an outlook for continuing job growth.Ian McKelvie: In the last year how has employment growth tracked and how does New Zealand’s employment rate compare with other countries?Hon PAULA BENNETT: Over the last year we have seen 68000 jobs added to the economy including 24000 additional jobs in the manufacturing sector. Over that period the labour force has expanded by 79000 people driven in part of course by a higher labour market participation rate which is now at 69.3 percent the third-highest rate on record. The number of unemployed has increased from 5.7 percent to 5.9 percent but that is a product of people coming into the labour market faster than jobs are being created. New Zealand’s employment rate—that is the share of the working-age population in employment—is 65.3 percent one of the highest rates in the OECD.Ian McKelvie: What trends have been evident in wage growth across the economy over the last 4 years?Hon PAULA BENNETT: In addition to growing employment what we are also seeing of course is higher wages. The average wage is now over $57000. That is $10000 more than when National came into office—[Interruption]—or as those members would like to hear 22 percent higher than that time. After-tax incomes have increased by 29 percent since 2008 and that is 29 percent more money in the pockets of New Zealanders.
Carter David: Points of Order — Written Questions—Overdue RepliesText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Points of Order — Written Questions—Overdue Replies[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7057. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: No I am already looking at the matter.
Robertson Grant: Points of Order — Written Questions—Overdue RepliesText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson Grant: Points of Order — Written Questions—Overdue Replies[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7057. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]GRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: A fresh point of order?GRANT ROBERTSON: I am sure you will allow this additional comment. This is the last day of the House before a 2-week adjournment and I would ask that we do not wait until the House returns for you to follow the matter up.
Carter David: Points of Order — Written Questions—Overdue RepliesText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Points of Order — Written Questions—Overdue Replies[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7057. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I am still awaiting further advice from the Clerk on that matter.
Robertson Grant: Points of Order — Written Questions—Overdue RepliesText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson Grant: Points of Order — Written Questions—Overdue Replies[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7057. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]GRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I was waiting to see whether you were going to respond to my point of order of yesterday regarding the failure of the Minister of Education to respond to written questions within the deadline stated by Standing Order 382(4). Those replies have not been received. It does relate to a ruling you gave in this House on 10 September.
Brownlee Gerry: Business StatementText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Business Statement[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7057. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): That would be a matter for the Minister responsible for the bill to take up with the Business Committee.
Robertson Grant: Business StatementText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson Grant: Business Statement[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7057. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]GRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central): Can I ask the Leader of the House whether he has any plans to ask for a delay in the return of the brightline test bill to the House which got a truncated report-back date?
Brownlee Gerry: Business StatementText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Business Statement[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7057. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): Next week the House begins a 2-week adjournment when members of the House will be able to spend more time in their electorates and on select committee business. When the House resumes on Tuesday 13 October the Government will progress a number of first readings on the Order Paper including the Environment Canterbury (Transitional Governance Arrangements) Bill the Taxation (Transformation: First Phase Simplification and Other Measures) Bill and the Health (Home Carers) Bill. Wednesday of that week will be a members’ day.
Sittings of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSittings of the House[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7105. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Sittings of the HouseJOANNE HAYES (Third Whip—National): I seek leave for the House to rise early.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): I presume by that that the member means forthwith. Is there any objection to that? There appears to be no objection.
Urgent Debates Declined — Child Youth and Family—Expert Advisory Panel ReportText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUrgent Debates Declined — Child Youth and Family—Expert Advisory Panel Report[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7072. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Urgent Debates DeclinedChild Youth and Family—Expert Advisory Panel ReportMr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from Carmel Sepuloni seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 the independent expert panel’s interim report on modernising Child Youth and Family. The release of the report is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. The report makes concerning findings about the care of children by Child Youth and Family and outlines the nature of changes that the panel considers are required. The report is an interim one that outlines the next stage of work for the panel. Furthermore the operation of Child Youth and Family was extensively debated in an urgent debate on 27 August following the report of the Children’s Commissioner. There will be further opportunities to consider the issues when the final report is presented in December. I am not convinced that the presentation of an interim report warrants the setting aside of the business of the House today.
Points of Order — Written Questions—Overdue RepliesText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePoints of Order — Written Questions—Overdue Replies[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7057. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Points of OrderWritten Questions—Overdue RepliesGRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I was waiting to see whether you were going to respond to my point of order of yesterday regarding the failure of the Minister of Education to respond to written questions within the deadline stated by Standing Order 382(4). Those replies have not been received. It does relate to a ruling you gave in this House on 10 September.Mr SPEAKER: I am still awaiting further advice from the Clerk on that matter.GRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: A fresh point of order?GRANT ROBERTSON: I am sure you will allow this additional comment. This is the last day of the House before a 2-week adjournment and I would ask that we do not wait until the House returns for you to follow the matter up.Mr SPEAKER: No I am already looking at the matter.
Business StatementText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBusiness Statement[Sitting date: 24 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7057. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Thursday 24 September 2015Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.Business StatementHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): Next week the House begins a 2-week adjournment when members of the House will be able to spend more time in their electorates and on select committee business. When the House resumes on Tuesday 13 October the Government will progress a number of first readings on the Order Paper including the Environment Canterbury (Transitional Governance Arrangements) Bill the Taxation (Transformation: First Phase Simplification and Other Measures) Bill and the Health (Home Carers) Bill. Wednesday of that week will be a members’ day.GRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central): Can I ask the Leader of the House whether he has any plans to ask for a delay in the return of the brightline test bill to the House which got a truncated report-back date?Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): That would be a matter for the Minister responsible for the bill to take up with the Business Committee.
Korako Nuk: Environmental Reporting Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeKorako Nuk: Environmental Reporting Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7055. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]NUK KORAKO (National): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. I stand to take a short call on the Environmental Reporting Bill and there are three really important points that I want to highlight. The first one is that this bill sets up an environmental reporting system that is everything that the previous Government’s attempts were not; secondly it is robust it is independent and it is aligned with international reporting standards; and thirdly there are major provisions in this bill that ensure the independence and reliability of the reports that are required. Finally just from this side of the House: kikoraki te tai kahuraki te tauka [Blue is the tide priceless is the treasure]. A blue tide—where this is concerned this Environmental Reporting Bill is a treasure. Kia ora.
Foster-Bell Paul: Environmental Reporting Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFoster-Bell Paul: Environmental Reporting Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7052. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL FOSTER-BELL (National): Tēnā koe e te Mana Whakawā tuarua. In following on from that feeble piffle I want to commend this bill to the House in the strongest possible terms. The Environmental Reporting Bill in the name of my distinguished colleague the Hon Dr Nick Smith is a very good bill. Dr Smith along with Minister Maggie Barry will go down in New Zealand’s history as being amongst the best champions of the environment we have ever had in this country.This bill will provide reporting on five domains: water air atmosphere land and marine. It will cover the environment from the bottom of the swamps from which the Labour Party research unit hoovers up its political muck to throw impotently across at this side to the highest reaches of the ionosphere those hypoxic regions where brain damage can ensue and where the New Zealand First political strategists clearly operate. It will cover all of those environments and for that reason it is a very good bill. I commend it to the House.
Muller Todd: Environmental Reporting Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMuller Todd: Environmental Reporting Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7048. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TODD MULLER (National—Bay of Plenty): I rise to take a short call to support the third reading of the Environmental Reporting Bill. Is it not extraordinary to follow such nonsense dare I say that is challenging this Government’s environmental credentials? As we have already heard from the two speakers on this side of the House this is the most reforming Government in recent memory in respect of environmental improvement. The Land and Water Forum reform of the Environmental Protection Authority the National Policy Statement for Freshwater Management the National Objectives Framework—this is a reforming Government that has at its core a fundamental belief that you can only manage what you can measure. That has anchored our approach in respect of this bill as well. Only a handful of OECD countries do not have a similar piece of legislation. Under this Government under the leadership of Nick Smith we are going to get the job done here today and that is a step forward for this country.Unlike what we have heard over the last 5 minutes I look forward to the requirement that sits on the Secretary for the Environment and the Government Statistician to publish a domain report on one of the five environmental domains—be it air atmosphere and climate fresh water land or marine—every 6 months. I look forward to the cross-domain synthesis report with world-class analysis underpinning it being published every 3 years. I look forward to having a Minister be able to assure this House that the topics are the right ones that the report is underpinned by the appropriate analytic methodology of the highest order and that what we are doing through those domain reports is being measured robustly and has been appropriately consulted not only with the Government Statistician and the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment but also with the public and with iwi and with local government. It is an absolutely appropriate mechanism that sits in this bill to enable the Minister to do this.I know that ultimately through this bill we will have greater data and greater information to underpin a national conversation and it is this Government that has led this. The Opposition is nonsensical to oppose it. I support this bill.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7041. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill be now read a third time.Ayes 109New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 12New Zealand First 12.Bill read a third time.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7024. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That clause 2 be agreed to.Ayes 109New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 12New Zealand First 12.Clause 2 agreed to.Bill reported without amendment.Report adopted.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7041. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): No no—I have already ruled. The member will sit. [Interruption] The member will sit. [Interruption] The member will sit. It is the Speaker who decides whether there will be a personal vote—and let me read it out. I quoted the number Standing Order 144: “A personal vote may be held following a party vote”—and that is the process we are at now—“if a member requests one and the Speaker considers that the decision on the party vote is so close that a personal vote may make a material difference to the result.” As I mentioned earlier—and I have presided over much of this debate in the readings and the Committee stage—there have not been close votes. It has been very very clear. On that basis I am not prepared to accept a personal vote. That is the end of the matter and I am now proceeding with the vote.
Peters Winston: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7041. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I am well aware of the Standing Orders and past procedures but there has rarely been in my experience in debate on this matter when so many members have openly and on the Hansard record stated their personal—hang on can I just finish it off?
Peters Winston: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7040. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Is it a point of order?Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: It is a point of order; that is why I put “point of order” in front of my request. I called for a personal vote at the beginning of my speech because as I say—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): No no. This is the process. Let me explain the process. I told your whip this. The member will sit. [Interruption] The member will sit. [Interruption] The member will sit. The whip came and asked me the process. I told the whip what the process was and the process is that if a party wishes to call for a personal vote I put the vote as I am doing now and when I get to the stage of asking for those contrary to the vote a party has the right to say they call for a personal vote. At that stage the party calls for a personal vote and I will adjudicate on it at that stage. That is the process. I will start the vote again. The question is that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye to the contrary No. The Ayes have it.Tracey Martin: No. Noes have it. Personal vote.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Noes? All right—a personal vote has been called for by the New Zealand First Party. This bill has not been subject to personal votes during the course of the first or second reading or the Committee stage. I see no need to have a personal vote on this matter. The votes have been quite conclusive over the period of this urgency debate and on that basis—and I refer the party to the Standing Order 144. That is the Standing Order that is the relevant one in this case. I am not prepared to accept a personal vote.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7040. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Members this debate is concluded. The question is that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye to the contrary No.
Hayes Joanne: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes Joanne: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7040. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOANNE HAYES (National): I rise to take a very short call on this wonderful bill. I want to thank the Greens’ Gareth Hughes. I have had to endure watching this debate and sitting in this House listening to a whole lot of drivel from across the Opposition benches. I commend this wonderful bill to the House.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7024. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That clause 1 be agreed to.Ayes 109New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 12New Zealand First 12.Clause 1 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7024. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 77New Zealand National 59; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 44New Zealand Labour 32; New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.
Hudson Brett: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHudson Brett: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7038. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]BRETT HUDSON (National): It has been an interesting debate. It seems that all parties except Labour and New Zealand First actually walk the talk when it comes to giving New Zealanders a choice. I think that it is a very constructive thing to listen to the public and to give this fifth option. I endorse what we have been doing with this amendment bill.There was a member opposite who talked about personal votes. Well this party believes so strongly in the ability for New Zealanders to have their say that we are giving every eligible voter in New Zealand a chance to exercise their personal vote in two referendums. It is a fantastic process and I will endorse any choice that the people of New Zealand tell us they want. Thank you.
Seymour David: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSeymour David: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7037. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT): I rise on behalf of the ACT Party in support of this bill which is all about the very simple choice of having five options on the ballot instead of four. I think that given the simplicity of the initiative it has already taken more than enough of the House’s time so I commend this bill to the House. Thank you.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7037. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I call David Seymour—5 minutes.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7037. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): The next call is a split call. I call Dr Kennedy Graham—5 minutes.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7032. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I call Jono Naylor.
Dean Jacqui: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDean Jacqui: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7032. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki): You would not have thought that Labour had gone out and campaigned on a flag referendum would you? You would not have thought that Labour had gone out and talked about consulting with the people of New Zealand through a flag referendum going into the last election. You would not have thought that would you?But then fathoming Labour’s position—[Interruption] Of course not. But fathoming Labour’s position on any of this has been a feast of changing position all the way through this whole flag debate until finally it was utterly trumped and outplayed by the Greens. And good on the Greens I say. Good on the Greens for focusing on what really matters which is giving New Zealanders the opportunity to reflect on who we are via choices on the ballot paper at the end of this year and at the beginning of the next. So to Gareth Hughes I say congratulations on focusing on what matters because what matters in this debate is providing the people of New Zealand who do not actually care about this politics stuff with a choice.None of my constituents has contacted me in the last wee while saying “This is outrageous. This is a travesty. This is a schmozzle.” which seems to have become the favourite word of the left just recently. No no. No.The people of New Zealand want the opportunity to focus on what might be our new flag. What is it? What is it that we might stand for? What is the flag that might encapsulate how we feel about New Zealand and how we want to present ourselves to the rest of the world? After all we are a small trading nation right at the very bottom of the world. After all we do rely on markets being opened for trade to provide all those services that we all enjoy and need so badly in New Zealand—thank you Mr Groser for your ongoing work in that regard. So New Zealanders have the opportunity to choose a flag that says who we are now and thank you to the Greens for bringing in this amendment legislation to enhance that process.Later this year and early next year New Zealanders will be able to have a yes/no choice. Yes they will! They will have a yes/no choice but it will be an informed choice. First of all we get to consider what we might look like in the future. Having done that if it is the case that New Zealanders as a whole decide that yes they do want to contemplate a change then they will get a yes/no vote. That is what apparently we all want in this House but it will be an informed choice. This is a good bill and I commend it to the House.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7019. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the schedule be agreed to.Ayes 109New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 12New Zealand First 12.Schedule agreed to.
Ross Jami-Lee: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7024. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I move That the question be now put.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7019. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): We have Andrew Little’s typescript amendment replacing the voting paper in the schedule. This is now inconsistent with a previous decision of the Committee.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7019. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the question That Part 2 be agreed to.Ayes 109New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 12New Zealand First 12.Part 2 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7019. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 77New Zealand National 59; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 44New Zealand Labour 32; New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.
Ross Jami-Lee: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7019. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I move That the question be now put.
Seymour David: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSeymour David: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7016. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT): I would like to demonstrate how to give a speech on this bill such that one does not waste the Committee’s time and overly politicise the issue. This whole bill and both its parts are very simple. They extend the number of options in the referendum from four to five. It is very simple it need have no further debate and I hope that this part will pass very soon so that the House can get on to more important business. I hope that my parliamentary colleagues will not waste any more of the Committee’s time on a simple transition from four to five. Thank you.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7014. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Just before we proceed I wrongly announced the result of the party vote on the closure motion on Part 1. The correct votes should have been that the Ayes were 77 and the Noes were 44 whereas I said that the Noes were 46. The record will be amended accordingly.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7013. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 44New Zealand Labour 32; New Zealand First 12.Noes 77New Zealand National 59; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.Part 1 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7012. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 32New Zealand Labour 32.Noes 89New Zealand National 59; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendments not agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to Part 1 be agreed to:insert after clause 5:5ANew Part 3AAbility to add additional flag67AAdding an additional flagDespite anything in this Act to the contrary the Governor-General may by Order in Council made on the recommendation of the Minister at least 40 days before the commencement of the voting period for the first flag referendum prescribe a sixth additional flag design to appear on the voting paper and any necessary alterations to the voting process to accommodate this.The Order in Council must include—an official description of the design to be used for the purposes of dictating the relevant parts of the voting paper under section 23(4)(c); andan image of the design to be used for the purposes of subsection (3) and section 14(1); andthe technical specifications of the design including the colours dimensions and proportions of the design and of any shapes or images in it; anda description of how the method of counting preferential votes and recognising preferences in Schedule 4 must be modified to accommodate the additional flag design.When producing voting papers for the first flag referendum the Electoral Commission must ensure that the additional alternative flag design prescribed under subsections (1) and (2) is inserted in the appropriate space as Option F on the form in Schedule 1.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7011. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 77New Zealand National 59; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 44New Zealand Labour 32; New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the following amendments in the name of Andrew Little to Part 1 be agreed to:insert after clause 4:4ASection 10 Amended (Subject of referendums)In section 10(1) replace “question” with “questions”.In section 10(2) replace “be held on the question set out in the voting paper in Schedule 2.” with “only be held on the question set out in the voting paper in Schedule 2 if more than 50% of electors returning a valid vote in Part A of the first referendum vote to change to a new flag.” andinsert after clause 5:5ASection 38 amended (Declaration of result of referendum)After section 38(1)(a)(iii)(E) insert:“(EA)the number of votes received in favour of keeping the current flag and the number of votes received in favour of changing to a new flag; and”.
Ross Jami-Lee: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7011. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I move That the question be now put.
Ross Jami-Lee: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7010. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I move That the question be now put.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:6993. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill be now read a second time.Ayes 109New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 12New Zealand First 12.Bill read a second time.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:6973. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill be now read a first time.Ayes 107New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 12New Zealand First 12.Bill read a first time.
Vote: UrgencyText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Urgency[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:6955. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That urgency be accorded.Ayes 109New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 12New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.
Vote: Gambling Amendment Bill (No 3) — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Gambling Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:6955. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the Committee report progress.Ayes 109New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 12New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.House resumed.The Chairperson reported progress on the Gambling Amendment Bill (No 3) and no progress on the Construction Contracts Amendment Bill the Weathertight Homes Resolution Services Amendment Bill and the Radio New Zealand Amendment Bill.Report adopted.
Vote: Accident Compensation (Financial Responsibility and Transparency) Amendment Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Accident Compensation (Financial Responsibility and Transparency) Amendment Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:6954. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the Accident Compensation (Financial Responsibility and Transparency) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.Ayes 109New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 12New Zealand First 12.Bill read a third time.
Cunliffe David: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCunliffe David: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7003. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn): Never have I seen the potential for strengthening our national identity so squandered. This process has been crassly manipulated by the Government and by John Key in particular since its very inception. It has been a distraction from the real issues of the day. It is a personal legacy or vanity project for the Prime Minister and it is one of the most cynical uses of postmodern communications that I have ever seen.It must pain the Government that 70 percent of people when confronted with the four personal choices of the Government’s personal appointees hate the choices so much that they would rather leave the flag as it is. So the Government has broken the glass and pressed the emergency button and it has had to swallow a very large red rat. It is called Red Peak. I personally quite like it but that is not the issue. The Government knows that without this legislation—which the Greens have helpfully facilitated in a ménage a trois; they now consider themselves virgins—none of the flag options would get up and Mr Key’s personal legacy project would be down the toilet. That is why we are here under urgency—to save the flag project from obscurity.Debate interrupted.Sitting suspended from 10 p.m. to 9 a.m. (Thursday)