Williams Poto; Roberts AngelaASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Poto Williams): Members the House has resumed. Before the dinner break we were on the debate of the Thomas Cawthron Trust Amendment Bill. ANGELA ROBERTS (Labour): Thank you Madam Speaker. It is a pleasure to rise and take a call on the Thomas Cawthron Trust Amendment Bill. I obviously don't live in Nelson but as evidence that they are far-reaching in their impact and their influence as someone who has very strong connections to Havelock it's been really interesting to look at—you know as we've all done our homework it's the impact that they're having. They are far reaching in their efforts. I have to say congratulations to the member from Nelson for the care and the diligence and the thoroughness with which she has brought the bill to this point in the House. She talked about the incredible work and effort to make sure that iwi have been brought genuinely along the way and about the engagement with staff and with the community about the changes that needed to happen to make sure that this wonderful institution remains future focused forward thinking and able to be as innovative as it has been for more than 100 years. I think it's testament to the commitment that the member from Nelson has to her community and to this institution that we're in this place today. People have already noted that there have been changes to the bill and again I think that just shows how diligent the community is to this trust. I do need to talk for a moment about the fact that this trust is intensely local in its influence but also incredibly global. It hasn't just been around for more than 100 years but it is very committed and really comfortable with being really future focused and able to lead not just Nelson and Marlborough in the top of the South Island but actually the whole world in its thinking and its actualising of our just transition that needs to happen.As we all do our homework and we find something that excites us about what the institute has done it was really interesting to read about the dear little village of Havelock and the estuary at the head of the Marlborough Sounds. It's the largest estuary there. Over the years it has suffered and it has become one of the muddiest estuaries in the country. I have a bit of a love-hate relationship with that. It has claimed a lot of my gumboots over the years as I ventured out from my grandfather's sawmill—which Mr Brownlee will know being connected to the Brownlees there in Havelock. There was just something really attractive leaving the paddock at the end of the sawmill and being really determined to get out to the maimai. I never made it out and back with a gumboot intact so I can attest to the muddiness of that estuary but that's not a good thing. Estuaries shouldn't be that muddy. And it has had significant contaminants come into it over the years. And what has happened is the Marlborough District Council with the significant assistance of such an internationally renowned institution has been able to really thoroughly explore every metre of that estuary and discover where the sediment and those contaminants have actually come from connecting them up to where the council thought they were coming from because of consents and all those sorts of things. So actually what it's going to do is give the council great confidence with its future decision making about how it will restore that amazing part of our country that I have strong connections to. We've heard already about some of the incredible innovation—the bubbles in Waikawa Marina—and I guess their ability to test things out. I guess that's recognition of their absolute fundamental understanding and commitment to our coastlines and to our oceans. And I guess that's where you can shift to thinking about the significant investment that they've done with their brains as well as resources into how we futureproof how we make sure whether it's seaweed and methane reduction as we've already heard about or carbon capture with seaweed but also the opportunities for protein and how we actually realise that just transition and how we make sure that we think about food and fibre. And it's not just food and fibre and taiao but land and sea and their ability to be really inventive. And everything's evidence based which then reduces risks and it makes it much more likely for us to be able to boldly go into a future that can feel quite terrifying. One of the other things is that—you know when you go googling—you have an understanding of their intergenerational commitment. Those of us who have taught NCEA are always really really grateful and really cherish opportunities for our students to actually go and do their assessments in real-world situations not just because they're learning things that are of practical use which is the beauty of NCEA but actually things that excite them and mean that they will then go on and continue to study and invest and commit into something as exciting as looking at our aquaculture and our future investing in our biodiversity or protecting our environment. So for example they have students from all over the place. All the way down to Otago students come up to Nelson and they actually get to be scientists in real labs and do a level 3 internal around their mussels. I think that's really exciting because when students really engage hands on in real-world experiences they then go on and they become excited learners and they become excited scientists and people who are going to help us to do some amazing things in the future. They have open days they have scholarships and they are obviously incredibly excited when people want to engage with them because they know how important it is to bring our future generations into that process of making sure that we've got a world we can—and want to—live in in the future. They like I say have had students from across the country come and experience and do real-world assessment and achievement. And it's great to see them being really ambitious and really excited about how they connect mātauranga Māori alongside science in a more Western sense and being able to really bring those experiences and that world view to local children. It's really interesting to see that they talk about having the students from Waikawa Bay—so over the hill from Nelson and then over the hill from Havelock—over to Waikawa where the bubbles are and hearing how excited those environmental scientists are about sharing the diversity of the world view which is actually really important if we want to be creative about how we move into the future with things like seaweed or other forms of aquaculture. It's a wonderful institution and we've heard that all over the place and it is really great to see the incredible care that has gone into bringing this bill to this point in the House. The changes that have been made obviously recognise this and show how much it is valued. The only other thing is when you hear them talk about the global opportunities that they have and it isn't just seaweed; it is about making sure that whatever we do with aquaculture is sustainable. We've had some really ambitious industry over the years in Marlborough. I've had plenty of scallops and mussels in Marlborough over the years and it's really great to see them supporting aquaculture with science understanding where the limitations and where the opportunities are to make sure that we continue to make sure that this aquaculture is something that can be sustained into the future. It's a really exciting moment. It's a lovely opportunity to be able to show off to the world via this process the exciting things that we can do in this country. It will assist us to continue to be world leading to be ambitious and to support the diversification and the significant transition that we must make for a just transition not just for industry but the restoration like I say of parts of Marlborough. Making sure not only that we restore the parts of our coastlines and our waterways but also that we don't do further damage and that we can be really ambitious in the future. It's a wonderful piece of legislation. It's a nice opportunity to hear across the House the recognition the importance the innovation and the world-leading science that we need to have in this country if we aspire to be the best that we can be and to be ambitious. And because of this I commend this bill to the House.