SpeechHon NICKY WAGNER (National): Talofa lava Mr Speaker. National supports this bill because it is another tool to help deter people from smoking and it is a step towards Smokefree 2025. It's really hard to believe that these days anyone would allow their children to be trapped in a small confined space filled with smoke and toxins. Yet that's what people do when they have their children in the car when they smoke with them.It's been interesting to listen to people reminiscing about their childhood. I'm sure many of us had that feeling of feeling sick in a smoky car as a kid. My dad smoked and nobody ever thought twice about it. Today it seems really strange that nobody ever put two and two together. When I think of my two brothers and I in the back seat of the Zephyr no seatbelts and occasionally vomiting over the front seat of our parents' shoulders; it wasn't a pleasant experience for any of us. And yet—Hon Member: Are we there yet?Hon NICKY WAGNER: —what did we think?—Are we there yet?" Exactly.And nowadays there's absolutely no excuse because we all know that young people and children in particular are at risk from second-hand smoke and smoke in confined areas can cause serious health issues. Although we should know better incredibly enough smoking in cars still does happen and it is harming our children and so we do need more tools to try and reduce it.Personally I don't think this legislation will do as much to keep kids safe as getting drivers to quit smoking. I'd rather see us putting in more time more energy and more resource into helping smokers quit—and of course the most effective way that we can do that is to encourage smokers to switch to vaping.New Zealanders have been waiting for legislation to regulate vaping since this Government came to power in 2017. So it's been over 2½ years. I think the time spent on this bill would have been spent far more wisely on vaping regulation. As my colleague Matt Doocey commented I've had a bill in the ballot regulating vaping since 2017 and I did offer it to the Minister—unfortunately she declined my offer. So because there has been no regulation about vaping at all and a huge range—a wave really—of colourful advertising and attractive vaping products with no quality control it's lured far too many of our young people into vaping.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe): Sorry to interrupt the member but we're actually on a different bill than that.Hon NICKY WAGNER: I know that.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe): If you can connect that to this bill that would be great.Hon NICKY WAGNER: I can absolutely connect it to this. We've been waiting a very long time for this legislation and we will be waiting for a long time for this legislation because although it creates a new infringement offence and associated fine and the police will be able to stop cars if people are smoking with children it won't come into force for 18 months. So much for this Government's stated commitment to protect children and so much for this Government's stated commitment to Smokefree 2025.Then there's the curious issue of stationary cars used as a dwelling. This Government think it's OK to smoke in your car with children if you're living in it. Now what type of logic is in that? Children of course shouldn't have to live in a car and children certainly shouldn't have to live in a car with someone who smokes there. Does anyone else think it's odd that this legislation says that travelling in a car with a smoker is bad for children's health and must be stopped but living in a car where somebody smokes is A-OK?National will support this legislation but we believe there are far better ways to help smokers quit and thus keep kids safe from second-hand smoke however they travel and wherever they live."