Tremain Chris: Taxation (Personal Tax Cuts Annual Rates and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Tremain Chris: Taxation (Personal Tax Cuts Annual Rates and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
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CHRIS TREMAIN (National—Napier) 
: 
 It is always a pleasure to speak after the member for Tukituki Craig Foss. We work together pretty hard to back the Bay— 
Hon Shane Jones 
: What about the health board? 
CHRIS TREMAIN 
: I can tell the member that we backed the health board too. Its members were unjustifiably dismissed as the member well knows. 
I am here this morning to talk about Part 3 and I want to focus on three clauses in particular—clauses 21 22 and 61. I would like the Minister in the chair the Hon Trevor Mallard to take a call on clauses 21 and 22. We are rushing this bill through the House under urgency without its going through the select committee process. I would like the Minister to take a call on these clauses because I have not had the opportunity to have them fully explained to me. Clause 21 deals with charities and business income and clause 22— 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Has there been a change to the Standing Orders or to  
Speakers’ Rulings 
 to suggest that we cannot sit all the way through tonight tomorrow morning and tomorrow afternoon on this issue? Unless that is the case why are members getting up and saying that we are rushing things through today? We would have all tomorrow to consider it as well if they were not so work-shy. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Mr Peters you have been here a long time and you know the rules. 
CHRIS TREMAIN 
: Some would say that the member has been here far too long. 
Gerry Brownlee 
: Will he stand in Tauranga? 
CHRIS TREMAIN 
: Yes will he stand in Tauranga? That is what we want to know. Will you stand in Tauranga? 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: Ask Bob. 
CHRIS TREMAIN 
: No no Bob has decided not to stand in Tauranga. We are asking you the question. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Point of order— 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: It is a wide-ranging debate. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I think it is relatively important that when one is sitting in the whip’s chair one does not refer to the Chair in that way. I am absolutely certain that Mr Robertson is not going to run in Tauranga. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Thank you. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. You have allowed a reasonably wide-ranging debate but it must focus on the legislation before the Committee. More particularly these members have a fair degree of effrontery. They do not have a candidate for Tauranga themselves because “Bob the Builder” became “Bob the Quitter”—he jumped before he was pushed—but they have the audacity to ask where our candidate is. What a cheek that is. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Thank you Mr Peters. 
Gerry Brownlee 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. You know very well Mr Chairperson that it is inappropriate for Mr Peters to refer to Bob as “Bob the Quitter”. Of course I am not raising a point of order on that—I think the public can draw their own conclusions because the member as I have said before has become “Winston the Bitter”. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: No no. 
Gerry Brownlee 
: My real point of order is this Mr Chairperson. Mr Mallard intervened and suggested that you would not be standing in Tauranga. I do not think that was the right thing to do because no one should suggest that you would be standing anywhere other than in the seat that you have held for a very very long time—I understand that it is approaching 25 years. But what I would like to know is whether it is true that the Labour Party is trying to move you on. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: This is a wide-ranging debate at least over the field of taxation. 
CHRIS TREMAIN 
: The point is that if the member were actually standing in Tauranga he would be able to speak about this bill in relation to— 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. There have been three points of order on this matter and one attempt at a point of order by Gerry Brownlee. That said the member should know what your restriction is Mr Chairperson which is that he gets back to the bill. But in his first sentence he started up again. I know that his party is filled with a bunch of slow learners but four warnings should be enough. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I remind members of Speaker’s ruling 103/4. It is a wide-ranging debate but it is over the field of taxation. 
CHRIS TREMAIN 
: I get back to the bill and in particular to clause 21 “Charities: business income” and clause 22 “Charitable bequests” and if the member was standing in Tauranga he would be able to take a call on those clauses on behalf of the people of Tauranga and he would be able to ask the question that I am about to ask the Minister— 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I may have been a bit presumptuous in thinking the member was just slow. He is now being downright obtuse. You have told him five times that he cannot do that and he is back doing it again. If he cannot focus on the legislation before him or get a colleague to explain it to him then perhaps he should pass his speaking time to someone who can. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Thank you Mr Peters. I can see that if this continues it will lead to disorder. I ask the member to desist. 
CHRIS TREMAIN 
: I am speaking on clauses 21 and 22 in relation to how they will work in Hawke’s Bay. I represent the Napier electorate and I am going to ask some questions on behalf of my constituents from Napier and the constituents of Mr Craig Foss in Tukituki. I refer to the likes of the Napier Community House DOVE Hawke’s Bay Inc.  the Disability Information Trust the Red Cross Society the Stroke Foundation of New Zealand the Multiple Sclerosis Society (HB) Inc and Presbyterian Support. Can the Minister explain exactly how clauses 21 and 22 will affect them? Without the opportunity for submissions to be considered at a select committee hearing I am interested to know how these two clauses will impact upon those charities in Napier and Tukituki. I think we will be all the better if the Minister can explain that. Unfortunately in this situation there will not be the opportunity for those organisations to make a submission on the provisions which will have a major impact on them. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: I am happy to. Shall I do that now? 
CHRIS TREMAIN 
: Yes that would be good.