Seymour DavidDAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT): For reasons unrelated to this particular bill I'm possibly the last person expected to take a call on it but I've been moved to do so by the debate I've just seen. I want to rise on behalf of the ACT Party in support of the bill and in support of the Supplementary Order Paper 258 in the name of the member in charge of the bill Hamish Walker.People sitting at home watching this debate might be trying to work out what it's all about. I want to say it's very simple particularly the matter at issue over this amendment. It's very simple. You see humans are born more vulnerable than any other species. You know we can't walk for the first year and that's why we're so reliant on our parents—more than any other species. That is why foster children without their natural parents are so vulnerable. That's why it's so important for the rest of our society to actually put in place support so that those children have the opportunity to make the most of their lives.We've heard from Hamish Walker stories of kids who have gone from pillar to post—from one home to another from one foster parent to another—and yet they have a determination to put something away to give up spending today so they can save and have a better tomorrow. That's got to be one of the most admirable human qualities that I've heard of in this committee for a very long time. Yet without the ability to open a KiwiSaver account the risk is that as they go from pillar to post they are vulnerable to losing their savings to losing their property rights. This particular Supplementary Order Paper 258 what it would do for those children is make sure that they don't have to have their particular Oranga Tamariki guardian signed up so they can have a KiwiSaver account.This amendment that the Government parties—New Zealand First the Greens and Labour—are opposing would mean that that child would need only one of the foster parents opting in for children in their care to sign off that they can have a KiwiSaver account. That account might be very useful for them to protect their savings and their property rights if they find themselves perhaps in another home in a few months' time. They shouldn't need a particular Oranga Tamariki guardian to sign off so that they can have that safe haven for their nest egg. They should be able to get anyone. I would say they shouldn't need anybody; they should be able to sign up for a KiwiSaver account as a right as an individual.I think it's a little bit unfair that New Zealand First have been picked on for not supporting it because actually I think all of the House—all three of the Government parties—should be supporting it. Yes indeed New Zealand First should be supporting it because they fundamentally believe in private property rights and the idea that ordinary people can do extraordinary things and make a difference in their own lives and that should extend to letting any kid in any foster situation open a KiwiSaver account. Then you've got the Labour Party founded amongst the mining towns of the West Coast over 100 years ago founded on the idea that working people who work hard and save and invest can have a better tomorrow—and Michael Wood knows because he's got a wry smile and he knows he agrees with me. He knows the Labour Party should be supporting this amendment. Then the next question is: what are the values of the Green Party? That unfortunately is beyond me right now but I think they should vote for it on the basis that they say that every decision should be made at the lowest possible level and in this case it should be that foster kid that just wants to save some money.So it's worthwhile putting in place an amendment that says foster children any foster child with any of their foster parents—anyone acting in loco parentis can sign them up to have a KiwiSaver account. That's what this committee should do. That's what the Government parties should do. I know that's what the ACT Party will be doing. I commend Hamish Walker for bringing this bill and with that thought I will not prolong this debate any further. Thank you Mr Chair.