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McKelvie Ian: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMcKelvie Ian: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 17 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9440. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]10.IAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei) to theMinister for Primary Industries: What progress can he report on efforts made to increase veterinarians in rural New Zealand?Hon NATHAN GUY (Minister for Primary Industries): Yesterday I welcomed 30 new vets into the 2013 intake of the rural veterinary bonding scheme. The scheme is now in its fifth year and so far 136 new vets have joined with an outstanding retention rate of 96 percent.Ian McKelvie: Why is the Government investing in keeping vets in rural New Zealand?Hon NATHAN GUY: Livestock farming is the engine room of New Zealand’s economy and a big part of rural communities. Tackling the shortage of rural vets is important for animal health and for realising the Government’s ambitious goal of doubling primary sector exports by 2025. For farmers it means a sustainable cost-effective and responsive rural veterinary workforce.
King Annette: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeKing Annette: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 17 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9437. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon ANNETTE KING (Labour—Rongotai): I seek leave to table page 33 of the Health Benefits Ltd report which says that there will be two production plants for the production of food—something that the Minister denied last week.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought to table that particular page of the document. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Simpson Scott: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 17 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9436. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]6.SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel) to theMinister of Health: What progress is the Government making on improving access to angiograms for patients with severe chest pain?Hon TONY RYALL (Minister of Health): Waiting times for tests and hospital stays have been reduced for patients in the central North Island with severe chest pain. Eighteen months ago in the central North Island only a third of the people were receiving an angiogram at Waikato Hospital within 72 hours of presenting with serious chest pain—one of the lowest intervention rates in the country. As a result of a major project across the five district health boards the number of patients regularly receiving an angiogram within the 3 days is now over 70 percent.Scott Simpson: What measures are Midland district health boards taking to perform more angiograms?Hon TONY RYALL: The improvement in angiograms and access to better heart care for patients in the Midland region is a result of a project of the National Cardiac Clinical Network and the five Midland district health boards. The Midland Acute Coronary Syndrome project assures that at least 70 percent of patients who have serious heart symptoms undergo their angiogram within 3 days. Previously and for many years before then many people would wait in regional hospitals for an extensive period of time before they were referred to Waikato Hospital. We have now got up to 70 percent getting those angiograms within 3 days. There have been a lot of very innovative changes in clinical practice—such as preparation for tests while awaiting hospital transfer and the establishment of a 10-bed facility at Waikato Hospital’s Hilda Ross House to accommodate stable heart patients—that have helped to free up beds and achieve faster better care for patients in that region.
Carter David: Sittings of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Sittings of the House[Sitting date: 17 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9429. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Is there any objection to that course of action? There appears to be none.
Tolley Anne: Sittings of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTolley Anne: Sittings of the House[Sitting date: 17 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9429. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House): In accordance with discussions at the Business Committee I seek leave for the House to suspend for the dinner break following the third reading of the Holidays (Full Recognition of Waitangi Day and ANZAC Day) Amendment Bill and for the House to suspend until 9 a.m. on Thursday 18 April following the third reading of the Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill.
Sittings of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSittings of the House[Sitting date: 17 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9429. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Wednesday 17 April 2013Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.Sittings of the HouseHon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House): In accordance with discussions at the Business Committee I seek leave for the House to suspend for the dinner break following the third reading of the Holidays (Full Recognition of Waitangi Day and ANZAC Day) Amendment Bill and for the House to suspend until 9 a.m. on Thursday 18 April following the third reading of the Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill.Mr SPEAKER: Is there any objection to that course of action? There appears to be none.
Goldsmith Paul: Building Amendment Bill (No 4) — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGoldsmith Paul: Building Amendment Bill (No 4) — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9426. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL GOLDSMITH (National): I rise to take a short call on this bill the Building Amendment Bill (No 4). It is interesting to follow New Zealand First. Mr Williams is an old-style regulator who is terribly worried about the prospect of freedom stalking the land and about people like me—jerry-builders—going out and knocking up things on my property.Hon Simon Bridges: Who’ve you been knocking up?PAUL GOLDSMITH: Well funnily enough at Christmas I erected a trampoline. It was quite a large trampoline and it could fall over. I might have done it wrong and I am sure that if Mr Williams had half a chance he would have the council inspecting that at great expense no doubt. The horror of horrors of people building outhouses and things like that and doing what they like on their property should never never happen according to Mr Williams. So I do think we need to strike a more practical line of approach.The building sector accounts for around about 5 percent of GDP in this country which is about the same size as the agricultural sector and it employs 171000 people—and 100 extra I am informed. About one in 12 is in the building sector so it is an important part of the economy and we need to make it as efficient and effective as possible given particularly the great burdens and requirement for housing in this country in Auckland particularly and in Christchurch.This bill is part of a suite of legislation that flows out of the Building Act review. We have dealt with the Building Amendment Bill (No 3) formerly and this bill tidies up those matters that we have heard about around making contractors more accountable through the disclosure of information.My colleague Jackie Blue talked about the concern that a lot of people have around people wrapping themselves up as a company and disappearing the next year after they have built a particular house and not being around. So this legislation is about making it clear that people know the history of their builder in terms of their contractual arrangements before they go into any contract.Quickly running through it the Local Government and Environment Committee heard a lot of submissions and has recommended quite a number of changes to the legislation around all sorts of things from the measurement of dams and canals the meaning of affected buildings the classification of dams to the classification of canals.We listened a lot to the submitters over the course of the weeks that we listened on the select committee and I have no doubt that as a result of that this legislation is better and is not going to have—there is always the risk of unintended consequences on this kind of complex legislation. I think that over the course of the select committee’s work we did iron out a few kinks. We have got this legislation into a good shape and on that basis I commend it to the House.
Vote: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9421. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill be now read a second time.Ayes61New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes60New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a second time.
Tisch Lindsay: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9419. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I understand the next call is a split call. Brendan Horan 5 minutes.
Goldsmith Paul: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGoldsmith Paul: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9418. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL GOLDSMITH (National): I am struggling to know quite what to make of that previous comment and contribution to the House by Mr Mallard—Hon Trevor Mallard: The Hon Mr Mallard.PAUL GOLDSMITH: The Hon Mr Mallard. I am not aware that we are in the dead of the night at the moment but we certainly were riding high on our high horse talking about the rule of law and lofty sentiments about the rule of law and the grave care that should be taken before any validation legislation is passed. It does not sort of fit naturally with the historical record which my good friend and colleague referred to before in relation to the use of validation legislation by the Labour Party only a few years ago to retrospectively validate unlawful use of parliamentary funds by political parties during the 2005 election. We recall that election which the National Party should indeed have won were it not for incorrect spending at the last moment. It was an amazing amount of spending in the last few days of an election campaign which was suddenly retrospectively fixed.This legislation here is all about clearing up what was always the Government’s intention—that the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board’s prosecution function would be funded by the industry because all its statutory functions are funded through fees and levies charged under the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Act 2006. It is appropriate for the industry to pay for this activity because it is the industry that benefits from maintaining high standards and from preventing unqualified people from taking work from skilled tradesmen. We all want to know that our plumbing and our drains are done effectively and properly and this industry does need to be policed. It had not operated effectively and this legislation retrospectively sorts that out.Passing retrospective legislation is not something that you do lightly but there is a long and healthy tradition of doing this where it is required for the best interests. If members on the other side want to hear some more examples of previous cases of it we could refer to the parliamentary committee under Labour that proposed the validating of the collection of fisheries levies which were worth at least $240 million in 2002. Also Labour rushed through in September 2001 validating legislation for recently invalidated unions. The list could go on and on.What I think we have here tonight is a practical piece of legislation that is fixing a problem that has come up. We do not need to stand and wail and gnash our teeth as members are doing on the other side of the House as if this is the first time this has ever happened in Parliament. We only have to look back to see that from time to time this has been done in an appropriate way. So on that basis I commend this bill to the House.
Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9414. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National): I stand to support the second reading of the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill. The quality of our plumbing and gasfitting shapes our health and safety. This means we need qualified and skilled people to do this work and we also need to prevent unqualified and unskilled people from putting the public at risk.This bill addresses irregularities of funding largely. Most boards have been funded by fees and levies. It is important to ensure that boards have funding for all their functions. Primarily the role of the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board is to prosecute people who carry out illegal sanitary plumbing or gasfitting work.In fact this bill tidies up any anomaly around the funding of the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board so it can effectively carry out its job of prosecuting for people’s safety. The board can also fund the investigation and prosecution of people within the trade who are found to be in contravention of best practice or who are practising without the appropriate skill or qualification.This bill is one part of the work the Government is doing across the building sector to help those in the sector improve their skills and the capability to build right the first time. I support this bill.
Vote: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9421. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be agreed to.Ayes61New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes60New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Question agreed to.
Vote: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9410. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Immigration Amendment Bill be now read a second time.Ayes71New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes50New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a second time.
Macindoe Tim: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9409. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West): Much as I respect Dr Kennedy Graham the member who has just resumed his seat—and I do thank him for making a thoughtful contribution—I cannot agree with him that this bill the Immigration Amendment Bill represents either meanness of spirit on the part of the Government or an overreaction to a fear or a threat that does not exist. I want to remind members that at the start of this debate the Hon Michael Woodhouse set out in what I thought was a very comprehensive and compelling way the reasons for this bill. In the short time that I have to speak I just want to remind all members that we could well be in the position that Canada found itself in a few years ago in 2010 when the MVSun Sea carrying nearly 500 asylum seekers reached the shores of Canada. It was not prepared for that event and it had to react legislatively after it.This is an example of the New Zealand Government being prepared for a threat that is real. We all would hope that no asylum seekers would attempt the incredibly difficult feat of getting all the way to New Zealand because it would be fraught with risk and nobody wants to hear of another tragedy on the high seas. But the fact that asylum seekers arrived on the west coast of Australia just last week signalling their intention to try to come here shows that it is an ever-present threat and something for which we must be prepared. For that reason I commend the Minister for the work that he has done I commend the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee and I support this bill.The question was put that the amendments recommended by the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee by majority be agreed to.
Street Maryan: Building Amendment Bill (No 4) — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeStreet Maryan: Building Amendment Bill (No 4) — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9426. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon MARYAN STREET (Labour): I rise to speak to this second reading of the Building Amendment Bill (No 4) and I want to go back to some of the history and theoverview of where this bill came from. In 2009 the Government agreed to terms of reference for a review of the Building Act 2004 in order to reduce the costs of building but not the quality of the building control system. That review found that the building regulatory system was not broken but that it was very costly and it was inefficient. The review noted—
Graham Kennedy: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGraham Kennedy: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9409. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green): The Transport and Industrial Relations Committee has reported back on this bill the Immigration Amendment Bill and has recommended only a few changes. As a result the fundamental weaknesses of this bill remain. The stated purpose is to enhance the ability to deter people-smuggling to New Zealand by making it as unattractive as possible to people-smugglers. In November 2010 the Minister of Immigration was requested to provide the annual figures for the last 10 years showing the number of people listed in prosecutions confirmed to have been smuggled into New Zealand. The Minister replied that “The department’s prosecution records do not record the number of people confirmed to have been smuggled into New Zealand. Accordingly I am refusing this part of your request.”This bill rests on a fear based on complete ignorance of the facts. But whatever they might be the numbers will have been minuscule and so the only real significance of this bill has to be in its symbolism. Let us look at the symbolism. It is based on a misperceived fear it succumbs to the temptation to dog whistle to certain segments of the population it misunderstands the distinction between refugees and asylum seekers it exhibits a meanness of spirit and it dishonours our ancestral tradition in this country.On 18 June 1842 171 years ago Robert Graham embarked from Glasgow in theJane Gifford one of 255 souls.David Bennett: Speed it up.Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM: Three months and 3 weeks later in a leaky boat he stepped ashore. Whether he was an asylum seeker or an economic migrant is neither here nor there. Either way he stepped ashore and had an excellent life thereafter.The member who just intervened the member from Hamilton East offered criteria for admission of people coming to this land. Let me respond. My ancestor—and no doubt his—did not have to pass a language test on arrival. My ancestor became fluent in Māori very fast and became friends with Hone Heke. He did not have to show a minimum net wealth. He did not have to provide proof of guaranteed employment. The following decade he entered the second Parliament in 1855 and served in the second Parliament through to the fourth in 1868.I know that this is the 21st century not the 19th but the issue of symbolism remains the same. Cam Calder offered some neurotic fear of people arriving in similar fashion from Sri Lanka. As the father-in-law of a beautiful young Sri Lankan woman I can assure him that he need have no neuroses—they are not shared here. Eleven years ago the survivors of theTampa came to New Zealand with a humanitarian gesture from this country and the issue worked out so well it made everybody proud to be Kiwis. I dare say that before long somebody from theTampa will enter this Chamber.
Peters Winston: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9407. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. In the interest of allowing that member to formulate a debate I move an extension of his time so that he can actually say something that is relevant to this conversation tonight.
O'Connor Simon: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeO'Connor Simon: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9407. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SIMON O’CONNOR (National—Tāmaki): We have this classic case of where the Opposition is I suppose dog whistling supposedly on our behalf. I do not believe that anyone from this side has used half the words terms or descriptions that the other members have. In fact I find it disgraceful that the member who has just sat down Sue Moroney has decided to politicise Boston today. As someone who has lived in Boston and has friends there I just find it appalling that one would try to politic within hours. We then hear from New Zealand First going down the sort of scapegoating scaremongering side which I am sure plays to certain elements in New Zealand but certainly not with National. And if you listened to the Greens well you would basically think that political activism becomes human rights. I would certainly encourage members of that party to go back to the textbooks and get down to the basics of what human rights are about.One part around human rights allows Governments like our own to manage how we deal with refugees. This is what the core of the Immigration Amendment Bill is about. It is providing a legal framework to deal with a mass arrival. Will it happen? When will it happen? We do not know. But as other members have rightly pointed out here on this side of the House it would be the Opposition who would be the first to cry foul if we did not have any legislation like this in place. So it is very timely.I want to acknowledge the Minister of Immigration and the work that he has done to bring this to the House. I acknowledge David Bennett of course the chair of the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee. We have worked very hard. We have listened to the submissions. We have made the appropriate recommendations. This side of the House once again stands strong and firm and rejects the constant assertions of an Opposition that really is lacking in ideas and constantly trying to tell us what we might be saying. Well New Zealand we believe in New Zealanders. We believe in appropriate migration. We believe in looking after those who come to the shores in an appropriate way. Thank you.
Vote: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9392. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill be now read a second time.Ayes61New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes60New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a second time.
Vote: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9392. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be agreed to.Ayes61New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes60New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Question agreed to.
Calder Cam: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCalder Cam: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9404. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr CAM CALDER (National): This bill the Immigration Amendment Bill is a compassionate bill. This is a bill that aims at deterring desperate people from putting their lives in the hands of unscrupulous operators. We know that since 2009—that is not very long ago—600 people is the pretty strong and accurate estimate of those who have died but that does not include ones whom we do not know about. Those we do notknow about. This bill aims to discourage and deter people from putting their lives in unscrupulous hands.It is interesting. I am pleased to hear that the Rt Hon Winston Peters agreed that there is a threat. I am surprised to hear that the Labour Party with its “eyes wide shut” stance thinks there is no threat—the threat is so small so unlikely so we will forget about it! How far is it? What is the distance between Colombo and Perth? The answer in case you have not looked it up is just over 3500 nautical miles—3500 nautical miles. That is 5700 kilometres. This boat which the right honourable member pointed out was given by the Australians a small fishing craft was piloted from Sri Lanka to Perth and arrived. How far is it from Perth to Auckland? Well it may come as a bit of a surprise: 3300 nautical miles. How many kilometres is that? It is 5300 kilometres. It is not very far. It is totally possible that such a craft could easily if it had not been intercepted have arrived in this country. It is remarkably naive and misguided and completely disingenuous to suggest that mass arrival cannot take place and could never happen to New Zealand.New Zealand takes 750 refugees a year through the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees—properly processed and looked after. This legislation is not about punishing people with a genuine claim for refugee status; it is about sending a strong message to people-smugglers and also for the protection of the vulnerable. I commend the bill to the House.
Tisch Lindsay: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9389. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Sorry to interrupt the honourable member.
Roy Eric: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9405. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: I call Sue Moroney.David Bennett: Oh this will be a bleeding heart.
Roy Eric: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9377. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Andrew Williams. Andrew Little sorry.
Roy Eric: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9408. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member cannot seek leave for another member. The next call is a split call. Iain Lees-Galloway has 5 minutes.
Vote: Third Readings —Text is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Third Readings —[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9376. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Crown Minerals Amendment Bill the Conservation Amendment Bill (No 2) the Continental Shelf Amendment Bill the Reserves Amendment Bill and the Wildlife Amendment Bill be now read a third time.Ayes61New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes60New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bills read a third time.
Mitchell Mark: Third Readings —Text is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMitchell Mark: Third Readings —[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9375. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney): I will take a short call. I just want to congratulate Minister Simon Bridges on the very good Supplementary Order Paper 205. I just want to say that we are not talking about protesting on Queen Street. We are not talking about protesting on Princes Wharf. We are talking about protesting on the high seas and anyone who has been on the high seas will tell you that it is an unpredictable and dangerous environment.I am sure that if the Green Party members were out there going about their lawful business they would be very unhappy if they had people boarding their vessels if they had people jumping in front of their vessels or if they had people interfering and stopping them going about their lawful business. That is what this amendment is about. It is not about preventing people from having their right to protest. They can but they are going to have to comply with a non-interference zone and they are going to have to make sure that everyone remains safe when they are going about their lawful business.The other thing they have to consider is that if there is an accident if there is an incident who is going to be called on to go out there and try to resolve it? It would be our emergency services. Every time that happens we are putting them in danger also. It is a very very good amendment and I support it. Thank you.
Tisch Lindsay: Building Amendment Bill (No 4) — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Building Amendment Bill (No 4) — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9427. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Sorry to interrupt the honourable member. The time has come for me to leave the Chair.Debate interrupted.
Roy Eric: Third Readings —Text is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Third Readings —[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9372. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: This is a split call.
Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Third Readings —Text is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Third Readings —[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9371. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National): Thank you for the opportunity to stand and support this legislation divided from the Crown Minerals (Permitting and Crown Land) Bill. First of all I would like to acknowledge the previous Minister of Energy and Resources the Hon Phil Heatley and the present Minister the Hon Simon Bridges for this important legislation which is very important for our economy.There should be absolutely no doubt in the minds of New Zealanders that if we want to sustain and improve our standards of living then we need to encourage the development of Crown-owned minerals. This legislation is a very positive step towards achieving a high level of economic growth and a high standard of living. The legislation updates and streamlines the regulatory regime around Crown minerals. The National Government after winning the last election in 2011 declared its four big priorities. One of them is to build a more competitive and productive economy. The proposed legislation reflects our commitment to New Zealand and New Zealanders. With those words I commend this legislation to the House.
Vote: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Immigration Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9410. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be agreed to.Ayes71New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes50New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Question agreed to.
Young Jonathan: Third Readings —Text is incorporated into the Bound VolumeYoung Jonathan: Third Readings —[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9362. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth): I would like to answer some of those questions that the previous speaker Moana Mackey has asked. Taranaki is one of those regions that has a great balance and protective care but also economic development regarding its environment. We have agriculture we have oil and gas exploration and production and we have tourism all operating together at the same time yet without a complaint regarding any of those activities.It is important to also understand that there is great economic benefit and I say to the previous speaker that at some point in time the East Coast needs to embrace the opportunities that are before it as Taranaki did 50 years ago. Now we have in Taranakithe average wage in the oil and gas sector at $95000. Just before Christmas over 125 jobs were advertised at over $100000 and all the time if you come to Taranaki as I am sure the member has in the past you will witness and see and appreciate and enjoy a great environment. There is no reason why economic development cannot proceed with robust environmental concerns and care.If we go back to where oil and gas exports were at one point in time they were the fourth-largest export from this country. Then we saw the Tūī field come on stream and one field in its production lifted the oil exports to the third-highest export commodity in the country. When you think about that think about hospitals. Think about schools. Think about police stations that are being built as one is in New Plymouth at the moment. Think about roads. Think about New Zealand superannuation being able to be increased for our elderly New Zealanders at a higher rate than inflation. Think about jobs and well-paid jobs. Think about all the benefits that can be achieved whilst all the time having a robust environmental regime in our legislation which this Government is putting in place particularly around the exclusive economic zone which never existed before under that previous Government’s time and regime.I am very pleased to stand in support of this legislation. I believe that it touches on some very important areas and brings some very good balanced pragmatic sensible and principled pieces of legislation together that will enhance the future productivity of this country whilst also protecting our environmental principles. Thank you.
Vote: Crown Minerals Amendment Bill Conservation Amendment Bill (No 2) Continental Shelf Amendment Bill Reserves Amendment Bill Wildlife Amendment Bill — Referral to Commerce CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Crown Minerals Amendment Bill Conservation Amendment Bill (No 2) Continental Shelf Amendment Bill Reserves Amendment Bill Wildlife Amendment Bill — Referral to Commerce Committee[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9358. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the motion be agreed to.Ayes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Motion not agreed to.
Ngaro Alfred: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNgaro Alfred: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9385. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]ALFRED NGARO (National): I rise to take a short call in support of the Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill. The previous speaker David Clendon was a bit confused. On the one hand he commended us for the changes we have made yet he then continued to criticise us. Having been on the Justice and Electoral Committee I commend the Minister of Justice having heard from the Opposition and from others for acknowledging the need to defer this bill. The reason for that was to allow consideration of the Family Court review report to Cabinet in May 2012. This deferral was to ensure that the legal aid reforms were consistent with that review. This is what has happened hearing what has come out of that review.There have been nine changes to Supplementary Order Paper 134 and four recommendations from the select committee. The changes are retaining the existing appointment frameworks for lawyers; removing the proposal to use Orders in Council; removing the tighter financial means test for less serious criminal offences; removing household goods from the eligibility calculation which Mr Clendon spoke about; reducing the proposed user charge; and charging interest 6 months after a legal aid debt is finalised instead of immediately; and new provisions provide clarification around the ability for the Legal Services Commissioner to refuse legal aid. There were four recommendations from the select committee including giving legal aid providers reconsideration review and appeal rights for decisions.We have listened we have heard and we are aligning this to the Family Court review as had been petitioned by the Opposition. As a member of Justice and Electoral Committee I am proud and confident that we have heard and we have ensured that we are meeting the needs in respect of the eligibility of those in need. I commend this bill to the House.
Horan Brendan: Crown Minerals Amendment Bill Conservation Amendment Bill (No 2) Continental Shelf Amendment Bill Reserves Amendment Bill Wildlife Amendment Bill — Referral to Commerce CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHoran Brendan: Crown Minerals Amendment Bill Conservation Amendment Bill (No 2) Continental Shelf Amendment Bill Reserves Amendment Bill Wildlife Amendment Bill — Referral to Commerce Committee[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9358. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]BRENDAN HORAN (Independent): I moveThat the order of the day for the third reading of the bills arising from the Crown Minerals (Permitting and Crown Land) Bill be discharged and that they be referred to the Commerce Committee for further consideration.This would allow for public submissions if called for.
Yang Jian: Third Readings —Text is incorporated into the Bound VolumeYang Jian: Third Readings —[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9372. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr JIAN YANG (National): I rise to support the legislation arising from the Crown Minerals (Permitting and Crown Land) Bill. National’s priority is to build a more competitive and productive economy. Natural resources industries play an essential role in our effort. Oil gas and minerals make a significant contribution to the New Zealand economy. Oil is one of our key exports along with dairy meat and wood. The oil and gas industry sustains 7700 jobs nationally. However there is huge potential for mineral exploration to contribute even more to New Zealand’s economy. This bill will go a long way towards unlocking that potential while taking care of environmental and safety issues. I commend the bill to the House. Thank you.
Key John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeKey John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9358. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister): I have now checked with my office. We cannot be 100 percent sure whether I rang the directory service or my assistant rang the directory service—either is possible. Either the call was redirected or the number was given. We are fairly sure that it was redirected. That is the fullness of the answer.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9358. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: The member so seeks leave. Is there any objection? There is none.
Key John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeKey John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9358. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister): I seek leave to correct that.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9357. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: That is the only way forward. If the Prime Minister feels that his answer was incorrect because it was incomplete he has every ability to seek leave to make a personal explanation.
Mallard Trevor: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9357. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I want to make it clear that if the Prime Minister seeks leave to make a personal explanation to correct an answer that was incorrect the Labour Party will not oppose it.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9357. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I will certainly checkHansard and have a look at that for the right honourable member. Supplementary questions are of course always at the discretion of the Speaker. If a mistake has been made I will certainly make sure we find a way to correct it.
Calder Cam: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCalder Cam: Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9416. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr CAM CALDER (National): Despite the disagreement in the House I do not think that anybody would disagree that the quality of plumbing and gasfitting impacts directly on all our health and safety. There was a very poignant contribution before from my colleague the Hon Maryan Street from across the House.This bill the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Amendment Bill validates the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board’s disciplinary levy so that it enables the board to discipline unregistered operators.It is very interesting to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Opposition benches about this process of validation. A cursory request to the Parliamentary Library revealed that when in Government between 1999 and 2008 on one of just a few of the times when the then Labour Government used the technique of validating unlawful use of parliamentary funding by political parties Michael Cullen was quoted as saying in 2006 that “Parliament regularly passed validating legislation”. Of course one of my favourites was “Harry’s law” which was passed to keep one of the Labour MPs in power. He was quite well-loved—Harry Duynhoven who is now the Mayor of New Plymouth. He was in breach of—Jami-Lee Ross: Labour was it?Dr CAM CALDER: —yes this was Labour—citizenship laws as an MP because he held two passports. According to the law he should have been immediately forced to resign from Parliament. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse as the Minister of Justice would tell us. Neither should it have been for Harry. But no the Labour Government then decided instead to change the law so that what he had done was no longer illegal.You know we have heard some riveting contributions thus far on this debate including a bravura performance from the Minister for Building and Construction. I have been warned that I will get myself into hot water if I speak too long. It has been a varied debate so far. Some speakers have put forward what they thought was a watertight argument. However I believe that some of the contributions have leaked around the edges of irrelevancy. I have been asked to keep this a short call today so I shall therefore turn off the metaphorical and rhetorical tap.
Dean Jacqui: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDean Jacqui: Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9389. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki): That was the Phil Goff angry speech which is a little bit different from but very similar to the Phil Goff angry speech. So that is speech No. 5 I think in the repertoire of angry speeches from Phil Goff. It also illustrates—[Interruption] It is a formula. It also illustrates the attitude of the Labour-Green Opposition in that it closes its eyes and it hopes that what it spends will not make too much of an impact on the economy.But that is an approach not taken by this National Government and that is why this bill is called the Legal Assistance (Sustainability) Amendment Bill. That is exactly the reason this bill has been brought to the House. We are determined to make legal aid and court services sustainable into the future. National is committed to ensuring that the legal aid system remains affordable in the future and available to those people who need it most. I commend the bill to the House.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9357. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. If you check theHansard I believe that what you ruled earlier today on question No. 3 is incorrect. We asked a primary question and four supplementary questions one of which was a repeat of the right to ask one of those supplementary questions again. I think you have got your count wrong.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9357. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Leave would need to be required. Leave is so denied. [Interruption] Order! I have a point of order and it will be heard in silence.
Key John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeKey John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9357. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister): I am seeking leave to complete the answer for fullness.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 16 April 2013. Volume:689;Page:9357. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Are you seeking leave to correct an answer? [Interruption] I am not sure what the point of order is.