Simpson Scott; Parker DavidHon EUGENIE SAGE (Green): Thank you very much Mr Chair. So going back to the oceans total funding allocated for fisheries as part of Vote Agriculture Biosecurity Fisheries and Food Safety in this financial year is $82.6 million—that's 14 percent and $13 million less than what was allocated last year. The Minister told the Primary Production Committee that the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Ltd's deep-water research vessel the Tangaroa which provides a platform for research on fish stocks is doing less than a third of the number of days at sea. It's been a reduction from 200 days to 60 days annually. The Minister said that the fishing industry was not particularly keen on increasing the frequency due to the cost recovery involved. So does the Minister accept that there's a risk of the public seeing him and the Labour Government as being unduly influenced by the fishing industry when it relies on their reactions to determine how many days the Tangaroa goes to sea and when the Government has failed to increase the funding for fisheries science which is a basis of doing the ecosystem-based management which the Government says it's interested in?Hon SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): Thank you Mr Chair. A couple of quick questions. The Minister hinted that or confirmed that there would be no fifty-fifty co-governance arrangements in his new resource management reform package but that there would be iwi involvement in the planning committee. So I wondered whether he could just expand on the nature of that please.Second question is: what progress has been made to the long-promised standardisation of kerbside recycling nationwide and why is it taking so long?Thirdly what's happened to his plans to set up a container deposit or return scheme? If he is intending to proceed with that in the 15 months or so that his Government still has in office is he committed to the 20c per container price setting?Simon Court: Mr Chair?CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): I call the Hon David Parker—given there's a large number of questions there—and we'll have time to come back to you.Hon DAVID PARKER (Minister for the Environment): I'll try and whip through them reasonably quickly. In respect of funding for the Ministry of Fisheries there's no change to the funding for core services at the Ministry of Fisheries including research. There is a significant impost on the fishing industry in the next few years coming from cameras on boats although there is a taxpayer subsidy for it that is still an additional cost to the industry. So more environmental services if you like are being cost recovered from the industry in respect of that though I do accept the point made that the number of days that Tangaroa is sent to sea has decreased over the decades. I think some of that is explicable from the fact that at the start they were gathering completely new science. Now they're updating existing datasets and they probably don't need as much time at sea to do that. There may also be some other technological advances in modelling that enable them to have less time at sea. But none the less I accept that is an issue that we need to keep an eye on.In respect of the make-up of the joint planning committees I won't go into that in detail but I would refer the member to a speech that I gave to the local government conference where I laid that out.In respect of kerbside recycling the consultation on the standardisation of kerbside recycling has concluded. I'm not sure of the date offhand but I can get back to the member informally at the end of this after I find it out but it's this year.In respect of container deposits no final decision has been made as to what the level would be. Although I would observe that the rate of recovery of recycled containers is substantially lower at a 10c deposit compared with a 20c deposit.