Menéndez March Ricardo; White HelenRICARDO MENÉNDEZ MARCH (Green): Thank you Mr Chair. So I take the point that there's no intent to delay it but I do want to unpack how it matches the intent to use the best available data—particularly when it comes to chance or certainty this bill actually matches with the intent in the coalition agreement. Because I just heard that there is no data gathering; the Minister talked about the fact that we've had a debate on this. But can I just ask: is she confident that this bill honours the coalition agreement in relationship to the best use of data and evidence? So I just want to sort of pick that up.The other thing is: will she then commit to ensuring—and has she considered then—after the bill comes into force actually starting to collect any data? Because then otherwise we're just having a situation where we didn't have data before but there's no intent to collect data.So my two questions are: will she commit; will she initiate data gathering after this bill comes into force? And just the consistency with the coalition agreement.HELEN WHITE (Labour—Mt Albert): Thank you Mr Chair. I want to ask a question about the possibility of extending the bill to a time when perhaps people are doing better in this country particularly low-paid workers. My understanding is that the Government has a Budget coming into effect in the April period so a lot of the policies will kick in there. That's when a lot of New Zealanders will actually be hit quite hard I suspect by things like the lack of childcare payments; perhaps the end of school lunches is my greatest fear etc.I understand that the Minister has a different position and thinks that everybody's going to be thinking it's the second Christmas because they're getting $4 a week. I doubt that—there will be things like no support to people for their public transport costs for their children. So I wondered whether we could delay the bill—Stuart Smith: Point of order. Thank you Mr Chair. It seems like we've drifted a long way from the commencement clause.Camilla Belich: Speaking to the point of order. I'd note Mr Chair that the member was just about to mention her concerns around commencement in this contribution—[Interruption]—Excuse me she just said the word commencement".CHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono): Well I wait with bated breath to hear how this relates to the commencement.HELEN WHITE: So this relates to the bill Mr Chair because I wondered whether we could delay the bill long enough to see what the impact was of those other policies and then look at this bill at that stage as coming in after that impact has happened. Because if I'm right and the impact is that hurts New Zealanders then the bill comes in after that period has happened. If I am wrong then we're in a situation where in fact the bill's coming in after the good impact and they'll be cushioned from the blow by all the wonderful things that the new Government's going to do for them ostensibly.So I wondered if we could extend the period long enough to see the impact and therefore people like the woman I described in my speeches—who has children who is going to be impacted by lack of childcare payments and lack of school lunches and transport costs—would be cushioned from that blow in that period or the Government's policies would kick in and she would be so much better off it didn't matter. That in fact she was in a position where she couldn't afford to take a job that was more risky from a minimum-wage job because she risked all those things.I just wondered whether we could have that extension through the next year or we could have an amendment which says something like "This will kick in when a person on the average wage is in fact $50 better off." Then we could do this perhaps at that point—when they were less exposed to the risk of it. Thank you."