Davis KelvinKELVIN DAVIS (Labour—Te Tai Tokerau): Tēnā koe Mr Chair i te mea i te hiahia te whānau nō rātou tēnei pire ki te tuhia ki roto i ngā reo e rua e tika ana kia wānangahia hoki tēnei pire ki roto i ngā reo e rua ēngari hei mua ake i tēnā me huri ngā whakaaro ki ngā rā o neherā i te wā o Paraire Paikea i roto i tēnei Whare. Tōna kāinga kei Ōtamatea kei Te Nōta ā i tōna wā nāna i huri ki Te Reo Māori kīhai ki te tohetohe i ngā pire ēngari ki te tohutohu atu ki tōna whānau i te kāinga kia mahia ngā mahi pērā i te miraka kau pērā i te whāngai i ngā kurī wērā āhuatanga katoa. Nā reira i runga i tēnā tikanga nāna i whakatakotohia me tohutohu atu ahau ki taku tamaiti kei te kāinga kia horoia te taraka kia tapahia ngā pātiti kia mahia ngā mahi o te kāinga.Me mihi hoki atu ahau ki a Nuk Korako rāua ko Peeni Henare mō ō rāua whakamāramatanga e pā ana ki te wāhanga o Te Reo Māori me te whakatikatikangia hoki i ngā hē kei roto aroha atu ki ngā kaiwhakapākehātanga. Āe he tika te kōrero ā Peeni he aha te patu kutu? Ēngari e tika ana kia tuhia tika Te Reo Māori kei roto i tēnei. Kua tika a Nuk mō ngā uauatanga me te pakeketanga kia tuhia ki roto i ngā reo e rua me wānangahia e tātou ki roto i ngā reo e rua. Kua poto te wā kia whakaotia ai aua mahi nā reira kua tuhia ki roto i Te Reo Pākehā ko tēnei wāhanga ō mua o te pire ngā kōrero kei mua o te pire kei roto i ngā reo e rua.Nā reira ka huri ahau ki tēnei mea te preamble. Ko tēnei tētahi o ngā raruraru o te tuhingia ki roto i ngā reo e rua. Rawa kē ahau i te mōhio he aha te kupu mō te preamble? Horekau he kupu Māori mō tēnā mehemea he kupu Māori horekau ahau i te mōhio. Ēngari e whakamāramatia ana—well he kupu anō ngā mana ngā kaha o Te Papawai and Kaikōkirikiri Trust Board. Nā tetahi o ngā pakeketanga ki roto i te whakamāoritanga o tēnā he aha te kupu tika mō ngā powers? He mana he kaha rānei? Horekau i te tino mōhio nā reira koia tētahi e whakamāramatia ana i tētahi o ngā raruraru e pā ana ki te whakapākehātanga ēngari ka herea ngā mana ō—taihoa me hoki ahau.Ko Te Papawai and Kaikokirikiri Trusts Act 1943 ka herea ngā kaha ngā mana o Te Papawai and Kaikōkirikiri Trust Board ā mēnā kei te hiahia rātou i nāianei ki te āta whakamāramatia te whanaungatanga ki waenganui i Te Papāwai me Kaikōkirikiri Trust Board me Te Pīhopa o Te Ūpoko o Te Ika ā me ngā tāngata whenua o Wairarapa—ka taihoa ake ahau ki konei hei whakamāramatia tēnā wāhanga mō ngā tangata whenua o Wairarapa. Tāku e mōhio ana e rua ngā iwi ko Ngāti Kahungunu me Rangitāne. Me te tohutohu mai ki ahau e tetahi o ōku whanaunga kia kaua e pōhēhē he iwi kotahi rātou. E hiahia ana rātou kia noho wehewehe a Rangitāne me Kahungunu nā reira e tika ana kia kaua e whakaingoatia ngā iwi e rua ēngari kia kōrero ai i ngā iwi nō ngā tāngata whenua o Te Wairarapa.Te hiahia hoki o Te Pōari Tarahiti kia 'hakapūmau ai tō rātou kaupapa hei tohua i ngā mema o Te Pōari tētahi hiahia anō o rātou kia āta tohatoha i ngā pūtea mō ngā tāngata whenua o Te Wairarapa me te whakahaerengia ō rātou mahere hei whakapakiri hei whakamahia i ō rātou whenua. Nā reira mehemea i te hiahia rātou kia whakatutuki pai ai aua wawata aua hiahia kua tika ki te tahuringia ki te whakarerekēngia i Te Ture matua.[Thank you Mr Chair because the family to whom this bill belongs to wanted to write it in both languages it is appropriate that it be debated as well in the two languages but before doing that thoughts must go back to the days gone by to the time when Paraire Paikea was here in this House. His home was at Ōtamatea in the North. In his time he would turn to speak in Māori not to debate the bills but to give instructions to his family at home to do the jobs like milking the cows feeding the dogs all those kinds of situations. Therefore based on that custom he set down I must instruct my youngster at home to wash the truck mow the lawns and do all the jobs at home.I must also extend a compliment to Nuk Korako and Peeni Henare for their explanations about the part relating to the Māori language and the editing of errors in it. I empathise with those who translated the English. Yes that which Peeni stated is correct what is nit-picking about? But it is right that the Māori language should be written correctly in this. Nuk is correct about the difficulties and the maturity in both languages being written correctly and that we debate it in the two languages. The time is short to have those tasks completed therefore this part of the bill in front the dialogue at the front of the bill are in both languages.So I turn to this thing the preamble. This is one of the problems with writing it in the two languages. I have no idea what the Māori word for preamble is? There is no Māori word for that or if there is one I am not aware of it. But it has been explained—well there are other words also ngā mana ngā kaha o Te Papawai me Kaikōkirikiri Trust Board. Now in terms of one of the maturities in the Māori translation what is the correct word for powers? Is it mana or kaha? I really do not know therefore that is one that really explains one of the problems about translation from English but the powers are bound—hang on I need to go back.The Papawai and Kaikokirikiri Trusts Act 1943 bounds the power and authority of the Papawai and Kaikokirikiri Trust Board and if they now want to really clarify the relationship between the Papawai and Kaikokirikiri Trust Board and the Bishop of Wellington plus the indigenous people of Wairarapa—I will hang on here in terms of explaining that part as it relates to the indigenous people of Wairarapa. What I do know is that there are two tribes they are Ngāti Kahungunu and Rangitāne. And one of my relations has firmly advised not to mistakenly refer to them as one tribe. Their wish is for Rangitāne and Kahungunu to remain separate tribes but not named so the reference should be indigenous tribes of the Wairarapa.The wish of the Trust Board is also to have their nomination proposal validated to nominate members for the Board another is to have their desire to carefully apportion funding for indigenous people of the Wairarapa validated and furthermore to administer their plans to strengthen and utilise their lands. So if they want to fulfil dreams the time is right to overturn and amend the primary Act.]I was just saying that because the people who want this bill to go ahead requested that the bill be in two languages and we were not able to do it for a number of restrictions I thought it was only fair to debate some of it in Te Reo Māori. But I also hark back to a time long before we were ever here. When Paraire Paikea the member for Northern Māori who lived in Ōtamatea—and it was a different time then—used to flick into Māori it was not so much to debate the bills; it was more to instruct his family at home to milk the cows and feed the dogs and no one was any the wiser because we did not have translators or television or anything like that. So it was based on that tikanga set by my predecessor all those years back that I told my son to wash the car tidy his room do the dishes and all those sorts of things—to do all the housework that he should be doing. But you know—back to the preamble—one of the things I said was that this is one of the difficulties in writing the bill in both languages and Nuk Korako explained it. If we are going to write it in one language we would have to deliberate it in one language and deliberate it in the other language. We actually just ran out of time and it is a lesson to everybody that if they want to do that sort of thing they need to signal it right at the start of the bill so that we can factor that into the process. But in trying to debate this the very first problem was the very first word: Preamble". Oh crikey what the heck is the word for "preamble"? If there is a word for "preamble" I do not know it but—Grant Robertson: "Pre-kōrero".KELVIN DAVIS: Yes "pre-kōrero" as my colleague Grant Robertson says. But the preamble simply sets out that the Papawai and Kaikokirikiri Trusts Act of 1943 restricted the powers of the Papawai and Kaikokirikiri Trusts Board—and there again was another sort of roadblock. There is a number of words—the word "powers". In Māori is it mana—having some sort of power—or kaha? You know I am not sure. So it just sort of illustrated the issues that we have in terms of getting it right in both languages. Also of course we have the issue of dialects. We are here in Wellington so I suppose that the dialect could be the dialect of the tribes of Wellington or it could be the dialect of the people whom we are debating this for. Or really if we are all being fair and honest it should just be Ngāpuhi dialect and let us you know cut out all the—The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Trevor Mallard): Order!KELVIN DAVIS: Ha ha!Hon Clayton Cosgrove: I think that was the "Wainuiōmata warrior" there.KELVIN DAVIS: Yes. So the bill wishes to better describe the relationship between the Papawai and Kaikokirikiri Trusts Board and the Bishop of Te Upoko o Te Ika. We could go into a big long story actually but I will leave it for someone else to explain that beautiful name Te Upoko o Te Ika. I am someone who lives in Te Hiku o Te Ika—that will give you a little taster for someone else to explain the difference between Te Upoko o Te Ika and Te Hiku. All I can say is that the upoko never moves unless the hiku waves like that. Also the relationship between the trusts board and the bishop and tangata whenua of Wairarapa—I was reminded by a colleague a whanaunga of mine who says there are at least two iwi down in the Wairarapa area Kahungunu and Rangitāne and you do not mix the two up. Do not confuse the two. They like to be independent and to maintain their own mana. Pita Paraone: Ngāti Hine me Ngāpuhi. KELVIN DAVIS: Yes very similar to Ngāti Hine and their relationship with everyone else in New Zealand. The bill also wants to establish this robust nomination process for the board members and also really what their job is is to distribute funds for the tangata whenua of Wairarapa."