Davidson MaramaMARAMA DAVIDSON (Green): I want to take a short call. I have a specific question—and I will reiterate sort of apologising to the Committee and to the Minister that it is going to be an ongoing important point: we have this huge legislation; huge Supplementary Order Papers; so many many changes; judges and lawyers and the like have admitted to how difficult it has been to keep on top of what is happening here. It is going to be the nature of the debate as well and of course that is one of the main points of the Green Party as to why we cannot support this bill. We want it to be fully understood and fully mandated by our people. Regardless of what is in it—the good points and the not-so-good points—it needs to be fully mandated and fully understood by our people.I specifically wanted to ask whether the Minister in the chair Te Ururoa Flavell could address Part 5 clause 158 Who may be appointed as governance body". So let us just be really clear—yes there we go flipping around that Part 5 is about who has the authority to act in relation to Māori freehold land. Then clause 158(1) sets out governance bodies.Hon Te Ururoa Flavell: Can I get a reference?MARAMA DAVIDSON: It is clause 158 "Who may be appointed as governance body" and again I hope I am looking at the most updated version. "Who may be appointed as governance body"—clause 158 then it goes to clause 158(1): "Any of the following may be appointed as a governance body for Māori freehold land:". It outlines who may be appointed as a governance body for Māori freehold land: a Māori incorporation trustees of an ahu whenua trust or a whenua tōpū trust a new rangatōpū an existing rangatōpū an existing statutory body a representative entity. But then it goes to clause 158(2): "However a governance body that is a rangatōpū a Māori incorporation or the trustees of an ahu whenua trust or a whenua tōpū—(a) must not"—so this an exclusion I think—"be a party to more than 1 registered governance agreement;".What I am getting at here for the benefit of all of us and for our people is this: could the Minister explain this particular exclusion—are we talking here in the legislation about conflicts of interest and who has got their hands in where? I could be wrong but it would be great to have some clarity—trying to get at the nub or trying to get at the heart of what this particular clause 158 "Who may be appointed" is getting at whom it lists and then whom I think it is excluding. It then says in clause 158(2) "However a governance body that is a rangatōpū …"—and so forth—"(a) must not be a party to more than 1 registered governance agreement …" and then it goes back I think. So this is the thing. It is an exclusion but with an inclusive clause: "…but (b) may if the governance body is already managing Māori freehold land under a registered governance agreement be appointed to manage additional Māori freehold land …".I think the change to this particular bit that is crossed out is "under replacement" instead of "under a new". So if the Minister could just clarify that. I mean we can go through this legislation. It would be good to have the narrative of either what problem is trying to be addressed in this particular part in this particular clause in this particular line of the legislation. And actually that is still not going to suffice in getting clarity I think for our people but we are here to try to take the opportunity to ask the Minister. Could the Minister please try to get to the core of the particular clauses that I have raised and that I am sure my other colleagues will raise tonight in the Committee. Thank you."