Naming and Suspension of Member 
Naming and Suspension of Member 
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Naming and Suspension of Member 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The member’s behaviour is quite disorderly. The member leaves me no choice but to name him. The question now is  
That the Hon Richard Prebble be suspended from the service of the House. 
 All those in favour please say “Aye” to the contrary “No”. The Ayes have it. 
Hon Richard Prebble 
: The Noes have it. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Is— 
Hon Richard Prebble 
: If you knew the rules you would know what happens next. I am entitled to have a vote. Are you not even going to give me that? 
JOHN CARTER (Senior Whip—NZ National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. We now find ourselves in a peculiar situation. I know we are dealing with a procedural matter but it is past 6 o’clock which is the time to lift the House. My understanding of the Standing Orders is that even though we are dealing with a procedural issue when 6 o’clock comes we must lift the House and we cannot continue on. I think we will find ourselves in a bind if we try to deal with a matter now past the time that the Standing Orders say the House should lift. I know it is a peculiarity but I think we are in a conundrum. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The question was put— 
Hon Richard Prebble 
: You are not following the right rules. It is outrageous. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The member will be silent. The vote will be put. 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Hon Richard Prebble be suspended from the service of the House. 
Ayes 69 
Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Noes 47 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7. 
Question agreed to. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The member is suspended from the service of the House. [ 
Interruption 
] I call the Serjeant-at-Arms. The member will please leave the House. The member has been suspended; it has been voted on. Would the member please leave the House. 
Hon Richard Prebble 
: No. [ 
Interruption 
] 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The vote was being put on the third reading before 6 o’clock. 
Hon Richard Prebble 
: It was not put. The  
Hansard 
 will show that it was not put. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I have been advised that I have to finish the vote. 
JOHN CARTER (Senior Whip—NZ National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. If I may I will talk on that particular point. I was on the phone at the time that the member Tariana Turia resumed her seat having made a very good contribution to the debate I might say—I was able to listen partly to the debate. I then looked around and realised that no other members at that stage looked as though they were seeking a call—the member had sat down having finished a little earlier than her 10 minutes. Even though I was on the phone while you were in the middle of looking to put the question I sought the call. 
Hon Richard Prebble 
: That is dead right. So did I. 
JOHN CARTER 
: Hang on just let me finish; I am on a point of order. Again while it is your prerogative there have been many occasions in the past when Speakers have then said to members: “Well look I am in the middle of putting this but given that the member is now seeking the call and there is opportunity it would be appropriate; but the member must rise more quickly.” That has been a common occurrence. I want to make the point to you. Firstly there is precedent for allowing a call to be taken even though you may be in the middle of putting the question. Secondly you have a right even though you may be halfway through doing that to decide to allow a member to continue a call when the times are not used up. I would ask you to reflect on that—that there is plenty of precedent in these circumstances to allow me who sought the call or other members even to carry on with the debate. 
The debate had not been completed and the situation was brought about because the member resumed her seat early. As I say even though you were in the middle of putting the question I did rise to take a call. I would ask you to reflect on that and on whether given the precedents on many occasions it might have been appropriate in this case to allow the call to be taken. Indeed we are now at the stage when we are well past six o’clock and we need to lift the House. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: No we will not do that. 
Hon Richard Prebble withdrew from the Chamber.