Kuriger Barbara; Salesa JennyBARBARA KURIGER (National—Taranaki-King Country): Thank you Madam Speaker. Look I just wanted to make comment at speaking about the committee stage on the Spatial Planning Bill. At the start of this process—back in January February—it was at the stage where we started having cyclones which tended to repeat one after the other after the other as we went through this process.But when I think back to discussions around planning in the first part of the committee when we were doing this it was like we were planning in real time as those events were going on around us. We were often shown maps of where the historic wetlands might have been in the Hawke's Bay and aerial photos of where the water lay as we were working through the process of looking at what had happened in the Hawke's Bay. It really got us thinking about just how important going forward planning is. I know we've had planning in the past but it gave everybody the opportunity to think about where we build how high and low we build because not only did we have places flooded; we had places which were hill slides and those sorts of things.We also—during that time as a committee—went and had a look at a report from the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment talking about green spaces and the use of green spaces as we build our cities. Because often we see big subdivisions and there's not very many trees and there's not many gaps between them and then we were starting to think Well where does the water go?" So it really got us thinking about planning not just as a committee and I guess in a theoretical way but we had lots of examples that we talked about during that time around planning.We've heard about the Spatial Planning Bill being a move away from consenting and having far more permitted activities. One of the things that I really hope we can get to as a country—so I watch now our regional councils and our local councils do their 10-year plans and their long-term plans and we have a democratic process in our central government which has a slightly different time frame often to what people have in local government. I know it's a different year but often it's based on different cycles. What happens is Governments of both colours do this. The councils put their plans together and Governments of both colours come along and throw things in and then all of a sudden councils have to change at least parts of their plan. So what I'm hoping that we can get to as a Parliament and as a country is lots more long-term planning. Because I know when I sat back on the Governance and Administration Committee at one point we were talking about how short-term - thinking we are in this country and it would be great if we could get our heads together and really make sure that when we let our regions make a plan that we aren't disrupting it by throwing things in from the outside all of the time.I also remember the conversation that Simon Court referred to with the Hamilton City Council talking about how different they were from places like Coromandel and Raglan. Now I represent places like Raglan and all the way down to Piopio and Mokau which are also part of the Waikato Regional Council. So I know that yes the city was concerned that rural things might impact on them and they were looking at an urban environment as opposed to a rural environment. Me being a local rural MP I get the opposite end of that story and I expressed that at the time. So I guess when we're planning the big thing is to make sure that urban needs as well as rural needs are taken into account because one size doesn't fit all and often we'll be doing something slightly different.The other thing that I would like to mention is we had quite a few conversations around vegetables—and fruit actually came into that as well. But in terms of the land that we actually use—and we look at the prices of broccoli and cabbages and those sorts of things in the supermarket now and we think about how we've resource consented our way around vegetables and what our responsibility is to the health and wellbeing of our community around delivering healthy food. So often we put all these barriers and all these regulations and all this proscription down on our vegetable growers and then we wonder why the land is too difficult to get to and why it's so expensive. So I just wanted to mention the vegetable growers tonight as I close off on my piece. Thank you.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): I call on Arena Williams for five minutes."