Whaitiri MekaMEKA WHAITIRI (Labour—Ikaroa-Rāwhiti): Where I left off was with clauses 38 13 and 16 which require councils to invite iwi to engage in voluntary iwi participation arrangements or the Mana Whakahono ā Rohe and enhance consultation requirements. We on this side of the Chamber support the engagement of iwi. We want to see the voices of iwi at the table making these decisions but in the departmental report on page 105—I want to express what is noted here by officials in that when it comes to these councils requiring iwi to engage we have this point that sends a few alarm bells for me; that is if an iwi authority does not respond within a specified time frame the local authority is not required to suspend the preparation of the policy statement or plan or any other part of the plan-making process as prescribed under section 1 of the Resource Management Act (RMA).Tonight we have heard the gains that the Māori Party has achieved for our people but that particular clause as many of the submitters that came to the Local Government and Environment Committee said—I recall Tainui themselves came up and raised it in the select committee and it was a question of resourcing. Who will resource iwi who do not have the capacity to participate as provided under this provision? Who will do it? The councils themselves? Local Government New Zealand in its submission felt that this is a Crown obligation so the Crown should resource it. This is a good question to the Minister. Can he tell the Committee whether he will resource iwi who do not have the capacity to fulfil this obligation? Because that is what the Māori Party has said that it has gained for all Māori—not just for some; for all. But the reality is his own departmental report actually counters that. It actually says if iwi are unable to meet the time frame of getting to the table then the planning process will continue. I believe that is a real concern in this bill.I want to go back and address what Marama Fox said about this side of the Chamber supporting her Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 281. I am glad my colleague Megan Woods had clarified that—that we do support the reducing of the Minister's regulatory powers. But there is a concern about whether the Māori Party has been asked to swallow a rat because we cannot determine whether the crops as per Marama Fox's SOP include pasture and include forestry. Therefore when the member spoke and read something out from a piece of paper I think it was incumbent on her to table what she read. Having something on a piece of paper that says that it includes this but it is not in the SOP that she is tabling—there is something fundamentally wrong. There is something fundamentally wrong. She should be able to table what she read because this is what we hear all the time from the Māori Party: We are on to it we are doing it we have written it." but we do not see the results. That is where it will be judged: with its support of this contentious bill that nobody wants—that nobody wants.As a very hard-working MP like a lot of my colleagues in our electorates I know my organisations. We know Pure Hawke's Bay and the iwi that she has talked about but we have also moved on. Iwi Māori have moved on. We have got very very high levels of representation and people on local councils for example. We have senior managers in a lot of council organisations. We are not living in the Dark Ages. Iwi are absolutely active and so the point around the gains—I will say again as I said in my second speech that the gain to me feels like it has been a rat that the Māori Party has been asked to swallow. Why? To support and prop up a bill that is unpopular with so many people around this country. I have yet to hear the value that they have gained in relation to clauses 13 16 and 38 of this bill to ensure that those iwi who are unable to participate—will the Minister resource them to do so?I would welcome the Minister responding to those questions that I have asked. I think they deserve a response to ensure that the concerns of the iwi who are watching and have participated in this process have been taken on board when it comes to the issue of resourcing. Kia ora."