Lee MelissaMELISSA LEE (National): Thank you Madam Chair. I find it a little bit disappointing that what we're actually trying to do here is considered repetitive. I have sat here since last night and this morning and every single question points to a problem. I do not feel that it was actually repetitive and I actually find it quite offensive. When the Ministers attempt to answer a question—and some people have tried say that it is telling when the Ministers don't address the question—it is the bigger answer. I guess we get a bigger picture when they don't address the question. I'd like to raise an issue in relation to new section 23A Power to direct person to produce evidence of compliance with specified measure" in clause 12. I'm guessing that when the police or anyone else in authority want to make sure that people are vaccinated in order for them to enter a premises or whatever the issue that we have—and I completely empathised with my colleague Nicola Grigg when she mentioned the issues that the South Islanders were facing. I have complete sympathy and empathy with them because they have been in lockdown almost—in level 2—because the businesses could not operate in the same way. Hospitality particularly—level 2 doesn't even cut it when they're having to provide extra staff but not enough people come in. Similarly Auckland businesses have the issue that whether it is a shop that was able to operate recently they could open their stores but people would walk in with passes saying that they're exempt from wearing a mask. How does a business know that that exemption certificate or pass is in fact legal or the genuine article because there are like five people in a row all come in with a pass wearing no mask and the operator is actually quite concerned that these people might be spreading COVID-19 and they may not have been vaccinated? They may even be positive for COVID-19 but they actually hold the exemption certificate.The issue that I keep raising in terms of the privacy issue and the security issue of data is that even the vaccine pass the COVID pass that we now have and the verifier app—I haven't actually tested the verifier app too much. But the thing is that the vaccine pass could also be screenshot. It could be used by somebody else pretending to be myself—not that anybody wants to mind you—but someone could easily replicate the app and the certification that the Government doesn't even show which one is actually authentic. I have had many inquiries from businesses saying "How do I know which one is in fact the genuine article? I can't tell if these exemption certificates are genuine." and I feel—Hon Scott Simpson: Well who's using your phone?MELISSA LEE: Exactly. The thing is that when the Government does not provide information to the businesses I feel like when the Minister actually put in extra clauses in new section 23A to give power to the authorities in new section 34A(1)(b)—"enforcing the Act or a COVID-19 order (including for the purposes of proceedings against a person for non-compliance);"—people start worrying. It's not just the people who are breaking the laws because in Auckland we've been in lockdown for God knows how long—how many days is it? We forget. Hon Member: 99.MELISSA LEE: 99 days. I was thinking it was 101 days but maybe my calculation is out. For 99 days we have been in lockdown and people are getting fatigued. They're breaking the law. They're breaking the rules. There are many reports. I get phone calls from constituents who are saying—you know they didn't want to report it to the police but I get the phone calls—"My neighbours are having a party. There are more than 10 people in their house; they're inside their house." It is fatigue and the Government is not helping the communities. There are people who do not know the rules and it is not clear. When the Minister says "This legislation is needed." this is the clarity that the people of New Zealand actually need. I think it was Mr David Seymour who actually gave a couple of examples which I found quite humorous. When the Minister says "This is the clarity that I'm providing to this House." I feel like saying "Well it's like going to a pizzeria and ordering a pepperoni pizza and you get an old shoe." It is just not good enough. I think the Minister needs to provide more clarity and give assurances to New Zealanders that they are prepared and they have been preparing and it certainly shows that they haven't."