Pugh MaureenMAUREEN PUGH (National): Thank you very much Madam Chair. It's been a very interesting and spirited debate on the Estimates for this year for one of the big ticket items of any Government the social sector. It does deserve a good hearing which we have seen.In the social development and housing sector we have a raft of votes including arts culture and heritage sports and recreation vote building and housing Oranga Tamariki Pacific peoples and social development within which are a number of other portfolios like social housing and Vote Women.The year 2019 was named the year of delivery. Apart from the original announcement about 2019 being the year of delivery I don't think I've heard it mentioned again. As we look through these Estimates it's actually clear to see why because this Government is actually failing to deliver on their own policies in their year of delivery.The Estimates show and over time we have seen this that the more and more you throw money at a particular policy area unless it is delivering actual outcomes all you're doing is wasting money. That was a very clear message that I received when I became an MP. That was when we started talking about social development. Because we have got such an enlightened group of people on this side of the Chamber we realised that the more money you threw at an organisation that wasn't producing outcomes—it was clear there needed to be change and so was born Oranga Tamariki. Billions of dollars are spent in this field but what we needed was the change for those members of our community who needed it the most so that they got appropriate and timely support while always noting that our children were always to be at the heart of this organisation. So it's very good to see that the Estimates do still continue to support Oranga Tamariki but we have heard many times during this debate about the waste of billions of dollars that we have seen invested into KiwiBuild. Again it's one of those areas that has not been delivered on by that Government over there and it has not delivered the relief that was promised for those wanting to access affordable homes. Now National is a party that supports homeownership. We can see that there is need for support for first-home buyers but even though KiwiBuild was held out to be the saviour this has not been delivered. I've heard in these debates today the criticism of selling off social housing and National did sell off social housing but what they've failed to explain in that rhetoric is that actually those social houses were sold to social housing providers. Those social houses are still tenanted by the people who need social housing. The difference is the social housing providers wrap the support around their tenants that they need and deserve. So it is a complete package now. We don't just send them away put them in a State house and walk away and forget about them and that is what I mean by throwing more and more money at a policy and getting the same results. Unless you do things differently you are always going to get what you always got and I have to pay tribute to those NGOs that have gone out there and provided that social housing support for their tenants. I'd like to turn my attention to the Minister who came to the meeting for the Estimates around the seniors. We heard that the Minister was very keen to create a position called the commissioner for seniors but that again remains something that this Government has failed to deliver on. What I've found really revealing about the lack of delivery from this Government was that in June this year the president of Grey Power who was also disappointed in this Budget said It is obvious that the wellbeing of seniors is well down the list of priorities of the current Government with absolutely nothing for seniors." Then he went on to say "The pre-election promise of the appointment of an aged-care commissioner"—promised to be announced in the first Budget of a Labour-led Government—"has been ignored. Meanwhile seniors continue to suffer and make headlines for all the wrong reasons." Again another very disappointing outcome from this Government."