Jackson WillieHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour): Thank you Mr Chair. I was thinking about its commencement Mr Chair. I was thinking about it. Given the Government's strategy around te ao Māori the commencement is very very important. As we all know they have this Treaty principles idea up at the moment. So I think strategically this type of legislation should go after the Treaty legislation process is completed. I mean I think that would make sense to all of us wouldn't it?Andy Foster: No.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Well you want to hear from your coalition partner. The coalition partner Mr Seymour wants to hear free thinking and free speech. He wants all this free thinking. He wants everyone making a contribution through his rotten select committee process. I'm thinking Well you'll have gangs"—you know this is only fair. I'm sure if the Government thinks about it a primary date when we could do this all again is probably 12 months from here. I'm thinking 8 August 2025 is when we should resume this because it would fall in line with the strategy that this Government is imploring which is about attacking Māoris every week.A question for the Minister: given the ramifications of the Treaty principles bill and this legislation has the Minister read the Waitangi Tribunal report with regards to colonisation and the effect of gangs? Has the Minister read the recommendations from the Tribunal which talk about working in tandem with Māori and not against Māori? That's a really important area when we consider what type of legislation we're trying to put in place at the moment and I think it's only reasonable to ask that question. And then the types of consultation: what has gone down—because we've had iwi leaders in the last week meet with the Government—Hon Member: Give us an example.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Yes that's right—Hūhana's relations there. Some of them walked out. Some of them stayed in to try and do a few deals but you know—Hūhana Lyndon: Oppose from the inside.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Mariameno's relations—some of them stayed in and did a few deals and then they came outside and criticised the Government. So you know Māori are playing it both ways.But what type of consultation has the Minister—and I respect we've got a new Minister in the chair today. Has the Minister seen with regards to this particularly in terms of the commencement—I come back to the commencement because of the strategies from this Government; strategies where Māori sadly—and I had another kōrero tonight. Apparently there's an attack now on Te Arawhiti. Yesterday it was about te reo Māori from Mr Goldsmith. The day before it was about iwi rights; it's about Māori rights. Given the type of kaupapa—oh yes I'm coming back to the commencement Mr Chair. Given the types of things that are happening with the Treaty principles bill I'm saying today: would the Minister consider relooking at this in 12 months because we'll help him in that area. We'll be quite open in supporting the Government in delaying this because of the ramifications.I'm worried about the Government because people are getting angry out there. You saw some of that behaviour up north yesterday from Mariameno's relations up there very upset over the—Hon Matt Doocey: Only your mates.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: No—Mariameno's relations up there.CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): Mr Jackson let's use some surnames shall we? We're not in a bar now.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: I think I did. I used the full name. But thank you for that. I'll just continue.In terms of the commencement it's really really important because of the consequences in terms of Māori and tribunal reports have to be considered. Consultation in terms of Māori has to be considered. All through this debate you would have heard the concerns from te ao Māori from Māori members from Pākehā members on this side of the Chamber and Asian members. This is an Opposition focused on the rights of people. There's no big love affairs going down with gangs. People are talking about community—[Time expired]"