Finlayson Christopher: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFinlayson Christopher: General Debate[Sitting date: 08 June 2016. Volume:714;Page:11792. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister responsible for the GCSB): Along with other members of the House I want to acknowledge the passing of Sir Graham Latimer a great New Zealander. I remember him very well from the early days of some of the litigation that the Minister of Education referred to with his lawyers David Baragwanath QC as he then was and the late Martin Dawson. They fought great fights for the New Zealand Māori Council and achieved a great deal for their country.I noted with interest what Mr Paraone said about the fact that Ngāti Kahu has not settled. Well there are two words that answer that completely and they are “Margaret Mutu” but I hope that one day soon there will be a settlement with Ngāti Kahu as there has been with the other Te Hiku iwi.I suppose it is necessary to make some ritualistic comment about the Labour-Green memorandum of understanding but frankly I cannot be bothered because there are some very serious issues that need to be dealt with.The first one which was obverted by Mr Brownlee is the all-important core responsibility of Government which is to protect a nation’s borders. He deals with it as the Minister of Defence and that is why there is the white paper that has been published to deal with some of these important issues. But I also deal with it as the Minister responsible for the GCSB. The common issue that Mr Brownlee and I—and also the Minister for Communications—are very worried about is the issue of cyber-security. I look at Mr Paraone—and he would be an aficionado of the James Bond movies probably going back to the first one—and he would remember very well some of the cyber-security incidents that occurred in those films. Frankly they all seem to be fantastical and totally unreal but it is with us now.I refer for example to what happened to the Bangladesh Bank a couple of months ago when someone hacked into that bank and suddenly well over $100 million was transferred to some accounts in Hong Kong. We all know what happened with Sony when it offended a certain head of State of a certain nation in North Asia. We do know that it is possible for people to hack in and not simply steal money out of accounts but to play with systems and cause mayhem. These are very serious issues that should engage all members of Parliament and are ones that greatly concern the agencies for which I have responsibility. This is why we have established a project—which is becoming more well-known now—called Project CORTEX which is designed to provide security assistance for medium- to large-scale companies and also Government departments to make sure that these sorts of attacks do not happen. We all know what happened to the Australian Parliament a couple of years ago when there was a cyber-attack on that: I think it was shut down for a couple of days.As we prepare the intelligence legislation for debate in this House I hope honourable members will realise that these kinds of incidents are not isolated; they are very very serious. Mr Brownlee is dealing with them as the Minister of Defence to protect the kit so that it can defend our shores; I am dealing with them as the Minister responsible for the GCSB; and of course Mrs Adams mentioned just a little while ago the appointment of the Computer Emergency Response Team to ensure that businesses get some guidance on how to deal with these issues.I very much look forward to the forthcoming intelligence debate. These are big issues and I hope all members will join in that debate with the interests of our country at heart.