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Bridges Simon: Whanganui Iwi (Wanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Wanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
Bridges Simon: Whanganui Iwi (Wanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Wanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:666;Page:13742] 
SIMON BRIDGES (National—Tauranga) 
: 
 It is good to speak wholeheartedly in support of the Whanganui Iwi (Wanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Wanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill. The bare bones of the bill and what it does can be stated pretty simply and succinctly. The Crown entered into settlement negotiations with Ngati Apa and in the midst of those negotiations it was clear that there were some concerns from Whanganui hapu with aspects of the Ngati Apa North Island settlement as part of the overlapping claims consultation process. As a result of that we have got into this on-account settlement situation whereby this bill protects the Whanganui iwi’s interests in the northern part of the Wanganui Forest with Ngati Apa taking the southern part I think of the forest in their claim and a half share in the land under Whanganui Prison also going in this on-account settlement. 
What we see with on-account settlements is the Crown being able to flexibly and cleverly adapt and creatively make solutions so that iwi interests are well accommodated. “On-account” means of course that the value of the assets transferred in the settlement will be taken into account when the Crown makes an offer of redress for the final settlement of the Whanganui iwi historical claims. I suppose it is in a sense a deposit on something with the rest to come in due course when the full and final settlement for the Whanganui iwi is made. The total value of this settlement will not be known until the transfers of the properties occur. The current book value of the land offered in the settlement is as I understand it approximately $2 million. 
Another interesting fact is that this is the second on-account settlement that has been offered to the Whanganui iwi. The first was the transfer of the Wanganui courthouse with a lease-back to the Crown which occurred in 2004. So we have an on-account settlement here—if you like a deposit for the Whanganui iwi—that arose out of Ngati Apa’s work in negotiations with the Crown. That is good indeed and it is good to have been a part of this process. 
I take note of something that David Clendon said. He expressed concern that we perhaps started the Treaty settlement process too early in the 1990s and that there needed to be a fuller discourse and discussion in this country prior to doing that. I would say to David Clendon that we had to start the settlement process somewhere. We needed to get our hands dirty as it were somewhere. Now under Minister Finlayson who of course follows on from other Ministers we have picked up the pace to a big extent. We are well into settling Treaty grievances and that is a good thing indeed for all New Zealanders—Maori and Pakeha.
Wagner Nicky: Ngati Apa (North Island) Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
Wagner Nicky: Ngati Apa (North Island) Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:664;Page:11859] 
NICKY WAGNER (National) 
: 
 Tena koutou e te Whare; e te Tumuaki tena koe. I rise to support the Ngati Apa (North Island) Claims Settlement Bill. It is great to see that this historic claim has finally been settled. It is particularly pleasing to see that the settlement package is a mixture of cultural redress and financial and commercial redress and also that there is an agreed historical account and Crown acknowledgment that form the basis of a Crown apology to Ngati Apa. All members of Ngati Apa wherever they live will be pleased to see this final settlement. 
National is committed to our goal of reaching just and durable settlements from historic Treaty claims by 2014. We are putting our money where our mouth is. Budget 2010 provides an extra $6.5 million over the next 3 years to achieve the Government’s goal of settling all historical Treaty of Waitangi claims by 2014. This Ngati Apa settlement is part of a significant acceleration in Treaty settlements that we have seen over the past year. The Government has signed 11 agreements in principle and six deeds of settlement in the last 12 months. The extra funding that we have put in Budget 2010 will continue speeding up that process by providing resources for our successful team of Crown chief negotiators to employ extra staff to support negotiations and draft the deeds of settlement. 
More groups are also keen to ramp up the speed of negotiations since they have seen the benefits that settling claims in a timely fashion can bring for people by creating jobs and unlocking economic development opportunities. Coming from Otautahi or Christchurch in Te Wai Pounamu or the South Island I am particularly pleased to see more settlements taking place. Our local iwi Ngai Tahu led the settlement process and the whole South Island community has benefited form their proactive stance. Because they settled early they have the opportunity to grow their assets to grow their businesses and to strengthen their iwi. They are now dominant and highly respected players in the business community of the South Island. Ngai Tahu companies are involved in retail education agriculture fishing and forestry. But they are best known—and perhaps best loved—for their tourism ventures. The story of Whale Watch Kaikoura in particular illustrates powerfully everything that is good about economic independence for iwi. 
The Treaty settlement process is about acknowledging unfairness making amends for mistakes and accepting each other’s apologies. This Government is committed to its goal of reaching the just and durable settlement of historical Treaty claims by 2014 because we understand the importance of getting down to the business of settling the claims with as little delay as possible. We must settle those claims so that all New Zealanders can look to the future and move forward together.
Henare Tau: Ngati Apa (North Island) Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
Henare Tau: Ngati Apa (North Island) Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:664;Page:11856] 
Hon TAU HENARE (National) 
: 
 Te mea tuatahi kei a koe e te Tumuaki o te Whare nei tena koe. Kei a koutou e aku rangatira nga mema o te Komiti Maori tena ano koutou katoa. 
[ 
The first thing Mr Assistant Speaker of this House is greetings to you. To you my illustrious colleagues members of the Maori Affairs Committee my acknowledgments once again to you all. 
] 
I will not take too long on the Ngati Apa (North Island) Claims Settlement Bill. Nothing gives me more pleasure than to be able to play a part in the theatre of Treaty of Waitangi settlements. One of the reasons is that I get a sense of national pride a sense of nationalism and a sense of patriotism when the House enters this stage of a Treaty settlement. 
I take my hat off to my colleagues. Somebody on the other side is whispering and not listening to what I have to say but that is OK. I take my hat off to the members of the Maori Affairs Committee from both National and Labour and to the Greens who were sometimes there. I am not saying anything disparaging about them; it is just that they have a big workload. 
I will briefly mention something that is in every Treaty settlement bill that I think we do not pay enough attention to during the process. If members cast their eyes over the preamble to the bill they will find a précis of the history of the involvement of Ngati Apa. Although it is not a huge historical tome of where Ngati Apa has come from and where it may end up it is a small historical account of a people’s struggle. I am sure that one day we will be teaching this stuff in our schools and not for any other reason than to be patriotic and nationalistic about the history of our country. It will not be taught with any feeling of guilt or any thoughts other than this nation can through this process become closer as one nation. 
I will not ramble on too much more other than to say that our select committee meeting at Turakina Maori Girls College to hear submissions was one of the best of our session. 
Hon Mita Ririnui 
: Did you pay the koha? 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: Yes we paid the koha. 
Hon Mita Ririnui 
: Who sang the waiata? 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: Hone Harawira sang the waiata and our kaumatua Mita Ririnui did the korero. 
Our select committee is a good select committee. We may have our run-ins and we may have fun but we take our job very very seriously as do other select committees. Again if we only took the time to have a look at the bills that go through our House of Representatives this could be the beginning of something new in our education system. No reira kei a koutou ano aku rangatira tena koutou a tena koutou katoa.
Finlayson Christopher: Whanganui Iwi (Wanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Wanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
Finlayson Christopher: Whanganui Iwi (Wanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Wanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:664;Page:11862] 
Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations) 
: 
 I move  
That the Whanganui Iwi (Wanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Wanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill be now read a second time 
. Perhaps because I am Acting Leader of the House I will resist all efforts by the chief Government whip for the House to lift before 6 o’clock; I think we should work to rule—work until 6 o’clock. 
The bill gives effect to aspects of the deed of on-account settlements signed by the Southern Whanganui Cluster / Tupoho working party on behalf of Whanganui iwi and the Crown on 31 July 2009. It protects iwi interests in the northern part of the Wanganui Forest and the half share in the land under the prison. The agreement by the Crown to enter into an on-account settlement was a result of discussions between Ngati Apa North Island and the working party to address concerns Whanganui iwi had with aspects of the Ngati Apa settlement. Addressing overlapping interests is a difficult and complex aspect of the negotiations process and the on-account settlement is a creative solution to those issues. 
The deed of on-account settlement provides the working party with an opportunity to acquire a half share in the land under the Wanganui Prison and the half of the Wanganui Forest not offered to Ngati Apa North Island. The right of deferred selection offered to Whanganui iwi over these properties is subject to Ngati Apa North Island deciding whether they wish to purchase the half share of the land under the prison or the forest. The value of the assets transferred in this on-account settlement will be taken into account when the Crown makes an offer of redress for the final settlement of the iwi historical claims. The transfer of these properties is closely linked to provisions in the Ngati Apa bill to transfer the land under the prison and the southern part of the forest. 
I propose that this bill be progressed through its stages as a companion measure to the Ngati Apa (North Island) Claims Settlement Bill we have just dealt with in order for the bills to receive Royal assent on or close to the same date. I thank the members of the Maori Affairs Committee for their excellent work. The hearings were held in Marton on the same day as the Ngati Apa bill at Turakina Maori Girls College. The committee has examined the bill and there are a couple of minor technical changes reflecting the name. I want to thank Mr Henare and his team for the excellent work they did and I want to thank members of the working party for their work in reaching this on-account settlement in such short time frames. Once again I thank the committee for their work.
Garrett David: Animal Welfare Amendment Bill — Procedure In Committee 
Garrett David: Animal Welfare Amendment Bill — Procedure In Committee 
[Volume:664;Page:11845] 
DAVID GARRETT (ACT) 
: 
 I am taking a call on the Animal Welfare Amendment Bill. I did not intend to but I am afraid that I cannot sit here and not do so given the sanctimonious warbling from the other side and the familiar sound from the Greens. I refer to the references that Mr Nash made. Almost word for word he repeated my leader’s speech on the Sentencing and Parole Reform Bill. He said that the Animal Welfare Amendment Bill sends a message that this kind of conduct simply will not be tolerated and he is right; that is what it is for. That is why we are voting to increase penalties. 
But members on that side of the Chamber did not see fit to support having increased penalties for hurting humans. In my 18 months in the House this is the first time that the Greens have supported anything that increases sentencing. Ms Kedgley in response to an interjection has just said that they are doing that only because there is a new section inserted by new clause 5 introducing the charges of wilful ill-treatment and reckless ill-treatment of animals. If that is the case Ms Kedgley then you should be supporting that clause and voting against the clauses to increase sentencing because you have claimed in this Chamber time and time again that there is no connection— 
Sue Kedgley 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. The member is getting so excited that he seems to be bringing you into the debate. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I thank the member. The member is correct. The member cannot refer to “you” as that is the Chair. 
DAVID GARRETT 
: Thank you Mr Chairman. The Green Party should be consistent and vote against the provisions to increase sentences because in their world view increasing sentences has absolutely no effect on human behaviour. 
I call upon those members to be the principled party that they claim to be. They should support the part of the bill that incorporates the new section on wilful and reckless ill-treatment but they should vote against the clauses increasing penalties because they are ineffective. But I do not think that that party will do it. The reason is that they do not dare to go against a motherhood-and-apple-pie measure like this that no one in this Chamber could possibly disagree with. Our party certainly does not disagree with it which is why we are very happy to support it. But in saying that I say that our concern is just as great for people. It would be great if members on the other side of the Chamber shared the concern for humans that is being expressed here for animals. It would also be great if they supported having increased penalties for violence against humans. Thank you.
Carter David: Animal Welfare Amendment Bill — Procedure In Committee 
Carter David: Animal Welfare Amendment Bill — Procedure In Committee 
[Volume:664;Page:11838] 
Hon DAVID CARTER (Minister of Agriculture) 
: 
 The member Brendon Burns has asked a very genuine question on the resourcing that we now propose for the animal inspectorates so I will take the opportunity of answering that question. It is one that the Committee certainly needs to be informed of. 
I take this opportunity to thank Mr Burns for acknowledging the progress that the National Government has made on animal welfare over the last 18 months. I feel quite comfortable that we can claim that as a Government we have probably made more progress on this vital issue to New Zealand’s reputation than has been made for at least a decade. We have demonstrated that genuine commitment with the largest welfare expenditure increase we have seen in any Budget over the last 10 years—$8.2 million. It was difficult to find in a situation where the fiscal constraints on all Ministers as we bid in the Budget process were tight but we managed to do it. 
Mr Burns asked what this budget increase will mean with regard to the number of inspectors we have around the country handling all our production livestock. At this stage we have five and this increase will allow us to double that number to 10 in the next year. We are providing to then increase that number by a further two in the following year. 
I was lucky enough to spend some time at the Fieldays yesterday. I went on to the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry stand at one stage and I was able to talk to one of the animal inspectors. The point he was excited about was that the substantial increase in resourcing to the inspectorate would give these guys the opportunity to be substantially more proactive within our rural communities and they will actually be able to go to farmers before they are in trouble to help them through perhaps an adverse weather event. I personally think that for too long the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry has had to focus because of the constraint of resources imposed on it by the previous Labour Government on being effectively the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. 
I am pleased that the inspectorate sees the opportunity with this substantial increase in resources for the animal welfare inspectorate to actually get out there and be more proactive in our communities. It is fair to acknowledge that some of our farmers as they have struggled to improve their productivity and their profitability have taken some of the farming systems far closer to the limit. As we acknowledged at the Primary Production Committee this morning we are going to see more extreme weather events associated with climate change which means that farmers have to build into their farming systems a little more cushion for events like that. 
Those are the numbers for Mr Burns. The animal inspectorate will rise from five people currently to 10 for the first year. It is our intention to add a further two in the year after that.
Choudhary Ashraf: Animal Welfare Amendment Bill — Procedure In Committee 
Choudhary Ashraf: Animal Welfare Amendment Bill — Procedure In Committee 
[Volume:664;Page:11832] 
Dr ASHRAF CHOUDHARY (Labour) 
: 
 I am delighted to speak on the Animal Welfare Amendment Bill. This bill as we know was originally proposed by Simon Bridges as a member’s bill and I pay tribute to him. He started this but now it has become a Government bill and the Minister of Agriculture David Carter is now in charge of the bill. 
I was pleased today at the Primary Production Committee to hear the Minister talk about the way that he has taken initiatives to put some more money into animal welfare. I am delighted that he is taking a real interest particularly now that he has realised I believe that our overseas markets are becoming very conscious of environmental and animal welfare issues. I am glad that the Minister is taking a real interest in promoting animal welfare. Hopefully the Government will be putting some more money into animal welfare in the years to come. 
Clearly this bill arose from those horrible stories that we have seen on TV about footage of kittens being fed to pit bull terriers. A number of dogs have also been shot and killed. We all saw media coverage of those horror stories and this bill arose as a response to those sorts of incidents of animal cruelty. 
From the outset I say that animal cruelty is not acceptable at all to us on this side of the Chamber or clearly to New Zealanders. Animal cruelty is simply unacceptable anywhere. The issue of animal cruelty has been around for quite some time and we know that the police the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry and the SPCA have been involved in the past in trying to prevent animal cruelty cases but the resources issue has been there. Over time the SPCA has handled a large number of cases rather than the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry or the police. Clearly there has been a problem with the resourcing of the SCPA. For example we know that in 2008 there were 14000 complaints received by the SPCA and only 110 resulted in charges being laid. Of those 110 only 58 people were convicted. 
The issue has been bubbling up and we know that some cases never get reported. But I think the public perception within New Zealand and overseas is that animal abuse is now unacceptable. But at the same time prosecution is expensive. It can cost a lot of money. In some cases it has cost $10000. Anything we can do to help to promote animal welfare is better but we need to have resources. I am glad that the Minister has now allocated over $8 million in this Budget because a lot of those issues are increasing in the public’s perception. I am glad that extra money has been put out there to address those issues. As I said earlier I am very concerned about some issues on the farm particularly because we are an agricultural nation. We are dependent on exports particularly animal exports from dairy farms such as meat. People in our growing overseas markets particularly in Asia are becoming very concerned about some of the news that gets out there.
Hughes Darren: Animal Welfare Amendment Bill — Procedure In Committee 
Hughes Darren: Animal Welfare Amendment Bill — Procedure In Committee 
[Volume:664;Page:11831] 
Hon DARREN HUGHES (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 Before you declare the House to be in Committee Mr Chairperson we have had a discussion about the ability for this bill which is a multi-clause bill to have all its clauses be taken as one question in its Committee stage with one vote to be put at the end of the debate rather than it being considered clause by clause so that members can rove over the entirety of the bill’s clauses. So I seek leave for the Committee stage on the Animal Welfare Amendment Bill to be taken as one question. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection. That will be the case.
Hughes Darren: Offices Of Parliament — Appointment of Auditors—Office of the Ombudsmen and Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment 
Hughes Darren: Offices Of Parliament — Appointment of Auditors—Office of the Ombudsmen and Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment 
[Volume:664;Page:11830] 
Hon DARREN HUGHES (Labour) 
: 
 The Labour Opposition is in support of Government motions No. 4 and No. 5. The Attorney-General has recited to the House the process that has been followed in order for the motions in the name of the Leader of the House to be placed before us. They are mechanical measures that are required. Officers of Parliament serve and represent all of us as members of Parliament and it is important that they are audited in a correct way. There is a process for doing that. 
The Officers of Parliament Committee has recommended to us that the Controller and Auditor-General be the agency that audits these officers. I find myself on this particular occasion in agreement with the totality of the views expressed by the Hon Chris Finlayson. I think before I undermine that I should stop because it is such a wonderful moment. 
Motions agreed to.
Finlayson Christopher: Offices Of Parliament — Appointment of Auditors—Office of the Ombudsmen and Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment 
Finlayson Christopher: Offices Of Parliament — Appointment of Auditors—Office of the Ombudsmen and Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment 
[Volume:664;Page:11829] 
Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General) 
: 
 I move  
That pursuant to section 31A of the Ombudsmen Act 1975 the House appoint the Controller and Auditor-General as the auditor to audit the Ombudsmen with effect from the financial year commencing 1 July 2010. 
I also move  
That pursuant to section 26(1) of the Environment Act 1986 the House appoint the Controller and Auditor-General as the auditor to audit the accounts of the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment with effect from the financial year commencing 1 July 2010.  
The motion seeks to appoint the Controller and Auditor-General as the auditor of the Ombudsmen and of the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment. For the past 3 years the auditors of these two entities have been private sector firms. The Officers of Parliament Committee has recommended that the Auditor-General be again appointed as the auditor of each entity. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Eric Roy) 
: I do not want to interrupt the Minister speaking but we have a lot of noise in the Chamber and the gallery. I ask for a little more quiet please. 
Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON 
: Section 14(1) of the Public Audit Act 2001 makes the Auditor-General the auditor of every public entity including the Officers of Parliament. However the House is able to appoint another auditor of the Officers of Parliament if it so wishes. It did so in 2007 on the recommendation of the Officers of Parliament Committee. This year the committee further considered the issue and decided that the Auditor-General should be the auditor of the Ombudsmen and Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment as she is for all other public entities. 
The recommendation is certainly not a reflection on the performance of the two firms that have carried out the role over the past 3 financial years. One of the roles of the Auditor-General is to provide independent assurance that public sector organisations are operating and accounting for their performance in accordance with Parliament’s wishes. The Auditor-General is answerable to Parliament for that function. In the committee’s view it is appropriate that the Auditor-General exercise that audit and assurance function in relation to the Officers of Parliament. I am pleased to support the committee’s recommendations.
Hughes Darren: Business Statement 
Hughes Darren: Business Statement 
[Volume:664;Page:11813] 
Hon DARREN HUGHES (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I thank the Attorney-General for his very thorough report. I would ask him to confirm that it is not the Government’s intention to consider the Imprest Supply Bill under urgency but that we will move to urgency once that 3-hour debate has concluded. I also ask whether the Infrastructure Bill which is languishing down the Order Paper at No. 20 is likely to be considered under the urgency motion. Is that bill likely to be progressed through the urgency motion?
English Bill: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
English Bill: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:664;Page:11827] 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) 
: 
 I seek leave to table a document from an occasion I referred to. It is the conference proceedings of the Auckland Pacific Economic and Social Transformation Agenda. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Fenton Darien: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Fenton Darien: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:664;Page:11825] 
10. 
DARIEN FENTON (Labour) 
 to the  
Minister of Labour 
: Are her policies aspirational for New Zealand workers? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON (Minister of Labour) 
: 
 Absolutely. We are a Government that rewards hard work effort and success rather than the previous Government’s relentless focus on mediocrity. 
Darien Fenton 
: If the Minister is aspirational for New Zealand workers why did her Government not support the development of an International Labour Organization convention to protect the rights of domestic workers? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON 
: The Opposition has been somewhat mischievous. The New Zealand Government supported a recommendation rather than a convention and that was the right procedural step to take. 
Darien Fenton 
: When the Minister said as her excuse for not supporting the convention “the question is whether there is any point in another convention that would only be ignored …” was she referring to that convention which countries that sign up to it must actually implement or to the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples which the Prime Minister has described as aspirational rather than binding? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON 
: In relation to the International Labour Organization convention for domestic workers I am advised that there are already conventions that cover domestic workers but they are ignored by the countries that exploit those workers’ labour. Developing another convention that would be ignored serves little purpose. 
Darien Fenton 
: Why did she draft legislation that would enable employers to require workers to work for nothing during their unpaid meal breaks and that would allow a muffin to replace a meal break or a rest break; is that one of her aspirational policies for New Zealand workers? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON 
: The meal breaks legislation as drafted by the previous Government had provision for unpaid meal breaks. We followed that. The bill that is currently before the select committee makes it less prescriptive and more flexible. But I would expect proper scrutiny of it by the select committee to ensure that workers are not exploited.
Tremain Chris: Whanganui Iwi (Wanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Wanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
Tremain Chris: Whanganui Iwi (Wanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Wanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
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CHRIS TREMAIN (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 We have made good progress today and I seek leave for the House to rise early. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Leave is sought for the House to rise early. Is there any objection? There is no objection. I think members have saved 30 seconds. 
Debate interrupted.
Goodhew Jo: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Goodhew Jo: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:664;Page:11824] 
9. 
JO GOODHEW (National—Rangitata) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development and Employment 
: What reports has she received about traders acting fraudulently when presented with Work and Income vouchers? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development and Employment) 
: 
 An undercover investigation has confirmed that some second-hand dealers are abusing Work and Income vouchers. Nine second-hand traders were visited in the May sting and five of those traders illegally offered cash or other goods in exchange for the vouchers. Those traders have received warnings and have been referred to the police. Following our investigations one trader has shut down his shop. This trader relied heavily on the profits from this unethical activity. 
Jo Goodhew 
: What is the Government doing to crack down on dodgy second-hand traders? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: We are sending all traders a strong message. We will continue to carry out undercover checks. We will take action against those operating unethically. We will blacklist them and we will inform the police. This unethical behaviour does not only rip off the taxpayer; it also leaves beneficiaries significantly disadvantaged. These vouchers are loans made as a benefit advance and at the end of the day they have to be paid back. When an unethical dealer sets an item at a higher price that cost is ultimately paid by the beneficiary.
Finlayson Christopher: Appointments — Deputy Controller and Auditor-General 
Finlayson Christopher: Appointments — Deputy Controller and Auditor-General 
[Volume:664;Page:11830] 
Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General) 
: 
 I move  
That pursuant to section 11(2) of the Public Audit Act 2001 this House recommend His Excellency the Governor-General re-appoint Ms Phillippa Catherine Smith of Wellington as the Deputy Controller and Auditor-General for a period of five years with effect from 8 August 2010. 
The House is being asked to recommend the reappointment of Phillippa Smith following a report from the Officers of Parliament Committee. Officers of Parliament are unusual in that they are appointed by the Governor-General on a recommendation of the House. The Deputy Controller and Auditor-General is appointed under the Public Audit Act 2001 in the same way that the Controller and Auditor-General is appointed and is also an Officer of Parliament. The deputy has the same responsibilities under the Act as the Auditor-General but they are carried out obviously subject to the Auditor-General’s control. 
The roles of the Auditor-General and Deputy Auditor-General are not easy ones. Parliament seeks independent assurance that public sector organisations are operating in accordance with Parliament’s intentions and are accounting properly for their performance. There is also a need for independent assurance of local government. As Officers of Parliament the Auditor-General and her deputy provide this independent assurance both to Parliament and to the public. The Deputy Controller and Auditor-General is responsible for the operational side of the office. She coordinates the work of parliamentary local government performance audit and research and development teams. She also acts for the Auditor-General in her absence. It is a demanding role and one that Ms Smith has performed very well. She was first appointed as Deputy Controller and Auditor-General in August 2005. Prior to that she had been the chief legal adviser at the State Services Commission. 
As is customary with appointments of Officers of Parliament all political parties in this House were consulted over the reappointment and they unanimously agreed to it. The appointment is for 5 years. Unlike the Auditor-General the Deputy Auditor-General may be reappointed for further terms of office. I am pleased to move Phillippa Smith’s reappointment as Deputy Controller and Auditor-General. I am sure that she will continue to play a key role in an office that is essential to the effective functioning of our system of government.
Finlayson Christopher: Business Statement 
Finlayson Christopher: Business Statement 
[Volume:664;Page:11813] 
Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General) 
: 
 First of all I congratulate the member on his new crimplene suit—the sort of suit that Social Credit MPs used to wear in the old days. My understanding is that the Imprest Supply Bill is not the subject of the urgency motion. My understanding also is that the honourable member has a list of the bills. I hear what he says about the Infrastructure Bill but this is a very busy and effective Government. He will know which bills are part of the urgency motion.
Finlayson Christopher: Business Statement 
Finlayson Christopher: Business Statement 
[Volume:664;Page:11813] 
Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General) 
 on behalf of the  
Leader of the House 
: I can advise the House that when we resume on Tuesday 22 June the House will consider the Imprest Supply (First for 2009/10) Bill and the Appropriation (2009/10 Supplementary Estimates) Bill. The House will then take urgency for the rest of the week to consider a range of bills that have been circulated to all parties. It is the Government’s intention to take questions each day.
Hughes Darren: Business Statement 
Hughes Darren: Business Statement 
[Volume:664;Page:11813] 
Hon DARREN HUGHES (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I thank the Attorney-General for that update. I further advise him that this suit is indeed a New Zealand - made suit from McAndrews Menswear in Otaki where we can get city fashions at country prices. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Like the soccer teams I guess that is one all.
Hughes Darren: Appointments — Deputy Controller and Auditor-General 
Hughes Darren: Appointments — Deputy Controller and Auditor-General 
[Volume:664;Page:11831] 
Hon DARREN HUGHES (Labour) 
: 
 The Labour Opposition wishes to associate itself with the remarks of the Acting Leader of the House in respect of the motion to reappoint Phillippa Smith of Wellington as the Deputy Controller and Auditor-General for a further 5-year period starting later this year. This office is a particularly important one for the scrutiny of spending by Parliament through the Government and the office has an important relationship with the House of Representatives and with the Officers of Parliament Committee. 
That Phillippa Smith has worked diligently and with integrity is evident by the fact that she has been recommended for reappointment to this position by the Officers of Parliament Committee which operates on a basis of cooperation and consensus in order to ensure that all parties and therefore the public whom the parties represent can have confidence in the independence of the people who hold this office. 
As I have already said we associate ourselves with the remarks made by Mr Finlayson and we wish Phillippa Smith all the very best for the stewardship of her important office in the next 5 years. 
Motion agreed to.
Business Statement 
Business Statement 
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Thursday 17 June 2010 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Business Statement 
Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General) 
 on behalf of the  
Leader of the House 
: I can advise the House that when we resume on Tuesday 22 June the House will consider the Imprest Supply (First for 2009/10) Bill and the Appropriation (2009/10 Supplementary Estimates) Bill. The House will then take urgency for the rest of the week to consider a range of bills that have been circulated to all parties. It is the Government’s intention to take questions each day. 
Hon DARREN HUGHES (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I thank the Attorney-General for his very thorough report. I would ask him to confirm that it is not the Government’s intention to consider the Imprest Supply Bill under urgency but that we will move to urgency once that 3-hour debate has concluded. I also ask whether the Infrastructure Bill which is languishing down the Order Paper at No. 20 is likely to be considered under the urgency motion. Is that bill likely to be progressed through the urgency motion? 
Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General) 
: 
 First of all I congratulate the member on his new crimplene suit—the sort of suit that Social Credit MPs used to wear in the old days. My understanding is that the Imprest Supply Bill is not the subject of the urgency motion. My understanding also is that the honourable member has a list of the bills. I hear what he says about the Infrastructure Bill but this is a very busy and effective Government. He will know which bills are part of the urgency motion. 
Hon DARREN HUGHES (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I thank the Attorney-General for that update. I further advise him that this suit is indeed a New Zealand - made suit from McAndrews Menswear in Otaki where we can get city fashions at country prices. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Like the soccer teams I guess that is one all.
Tremain Chris: Sittings of the House 
Tremain Chris: Sittings of the House 
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CHRIS TREMAIN (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 We have made good progress today. I seek leave for the House to rise a little early. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Eric Roy) 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection to that course of action? It appears not.
Vote: Appropriation (2009/10 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — First Reading 
Vote: Appropriation (2009/10 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — First Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Appropriation (2009/10 Supplementary Estimates) Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 5; United Future 1. 
Noes 53 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Progressive 1. 
Bill read a first time.
Vote: Budget Debate 
Vote: Budget Debate 
[Volume:664;Page:11726] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Appropriation (20010/11 Estimates) Bill be now read a second time. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 5; United Future 1. 
Noes 53 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Progressive 1. 
Bill read a second time.
Finlayson Christopher: Appropriation (2009/10 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — First Reading 
Finlayson Christopher: Appropriation (2009/10 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — First Reading 
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Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General) 
 on behalf of the  
Minister of Finance 
: 
 I move  
That the Appropriation (2009/10 Supplementary Estimates) Bill be now read a first time.
Vote: Budget Debate 
Vote: Budget Debate 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That all the words after the word “That” be omitted and the following words substituted: “this House has no confidence in the National Government led by John Key which has blatantly broken its clear promise not to raise the Goods and Services Tax has pushed up prices when working people have had their lowest wage rises in more than a decade has failed to implement a plan for jobs lacks any vision for a smart high-skill high-tech and high-wage economy has cut services and assistance to the most needy in our community and has rewarded the most wealthy at the expense of middle and low income New Zealanders.” 
Ayes 53 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Progressive 1. 
Noes 69 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Goodhew Jo: Budget Debate 
Goodhew Jo: Budget Debate 
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JO GOODHEW (National—Rangitata) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I feel it might be helpful at this time to give the member the opportunity to perhaps correct the  
Hansard 
 in that he referred to Nicky Wagner when in fact the member’s name is Jacqui Dean.
Mallard Trevor: Budget Debate 
Mallard Trevor: Budget Debate 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Following Nicky Wagner’s comments I seek leave to table a document that indicates that the Oamaru cycleway has received no cycleway funding. There is 1.3 kilometres built and there is an application for 300 kilometres which has not yet been considered. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Leave is sought for that. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Lotu-Iiga Peseta Sam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Lotu-Iiga Peseta Sam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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12. 
PESETA SAM LOTU-IIGA (National—Maungakiekie) 
 to the  
Minister of Energy and Resources 
: What announcements has Solid Energy made recently regarding underground coal gasification? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Minister of Energy and Resources) 
: 
 Last week Solid Energy announced its plans to commission early next year a $22 million underground coal gasification pilot plant in the Waikato. The process gasifies coal deep underground producing a syngas that can be used in the production of electricity and in the production of pure hydrogen to make a range of other high-value products including methanol synthetic transport fuel fertilisers or waxes plastics and detergents. It is a very good initiative. 
Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga 
: What statements of support has the Minister seen for the underground coal gasification project? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: I have seen a statement of support from the Mayor of Waikato District Peter Harris. I have also seen general statements in support of mining in the Waikato from the new Labour energy spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta who said that mining continues to make an important contribution to Huntly. She also praised the significant environmental contribution made by Solid Energy by creating wetlands and its initiatives in fencing waterways. I welcome Ms Mahuta to the energy spokesperson role and I look forward to Labour returning to its old policy of supporting the economic contribution of the mining industry to New Zealand.
Wagner Nicky: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Wagner Nicky: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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3. 
NICKY WAGNER (National) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development and Employment 
: What is the Government doing to support young people in youth development programmes? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development and Employment) 
: 
 Last week we announced $250000 from the Services for Young People Fund to support 21 youth programmes across New Zealand. Seven regions will receive over $20000 each. The Onehunga Father and Child Trust Auckland City Matariki Youth and the Kapiti Youth Support Trust are just a few organisations that have received this extra funding. 
Nicky Wagner 
: How will this funding support young people in Christchurch? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: I am pleased to let the member know that the extra funding will support a number of local youth initiatives including support for young teen mums. The St Albans Youth Programme supports young mums to gain confidence and develop the skills they need to be the best parents for their children. Funding will also support developing youth community leadership. 
Jacinda Ardern 
: Can the Minister confirm that the Government support for youth development programmes has in fact decreased in the Budget; if so can she advise the House whether this will lead to further cuts similar to those we have already seen to providers of youth services such as the National Youth Workers Network New Zealand Aotearoa Adolescent Health and Development youth health centres and Youthline just to name a few? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: As in any Budget round there have been changes to some contracts but certainly there has not been less money going in at all. In fact there is more. The Ministry of Youth Development has been concentrating on a “range reach and relevance” initiative which means that the Ministry is reaching twice as many young people with the same funding through the programmes it is doing. 
Chris Auchinvole 
: How will this funding support young people in the West Coast and Tasman? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: An extra $20000 will go into local youth initiatives in Westport Motueka and Greymouth. That is supporting outreach services for isolated young people advice for teens and outdoor adventure programmes.