Muller ToddTODD MULLER (National—Bay of Plenty): It is great to be back in the House and taking a call. It has been a few months. A bit of water has gone under the bridge so it's great to be here and taking a cue from Eugenie Sage. It's even greater to be talking about something that one hasn't has had a huge amount of experience in apart from setting up a RealMe account years ago when I was totally absorbed on that sort of electronic garage sale they call TradeMe—in its early days; I'm sure it is far more sophisticated now.The merits of this bill have been well traversed by all members and it has the support of the entire House which I think again reinforces the view that is perhaps not always understood out in the public—that there are issues of moment for this country that actually have significant support from both sides of the House that it is very much a cross-party issue. It doesn't have the profile unfortunately Minister of the very good announcement yesterday on housing but it does talk to the fact that as legislators we are focused on where we can see an obvious area to improve; let's bring the best of our thinking to it.I have just one simple observation that I'd like to add to the debate this morning and that is that we have spent quite a lot of time in the last hour reflecting on how fast technology changes particularly when we look back over a decade. It was less than a decade ago when the enabling legislation for RealMe was put in and at the time it was seen as very far-sighted legislation and it was a mechanism that would give security to New Zealanders in terms of their data protection. Here we are eight years later arguing that actually it is very deficient and that for a whole raft of reasons—mainly the impact of the industrial revolution technology and artificial intelligence and all the new ways of thinking and operating and engaging through the cloud—that framework is now redundant. My caution is that here we are in 2021 saying that we have now established a new framework that should give us the confidence that we will be able to provide secure platforms for New Zealanders to transact with each other and with the Government and that their information—their critical personal and commercial information—will be secure. I think that all of us in this House know that the reality is that in five years' time technologies will have emerged that have made this point in time seem somewhat quaint.So the question must be—and I want to build on Tāmati Coffey's point where he talked about the board being established with a perspective of Te Ao Māori and we support that I think that makes sense. But the real trick in establishing this establishment board and this framework is: does it have an inbuilt culture of flexibility an inbuilt culture to test its current norms and sense of what the future could hold and the ability as a bureaucratic institution to breathe and adjust and move at the pace that the technology and the consumers of this country expect? That is actually a very large test and a hard test regardless of your political persuasion: bureaucracies once established have an inbuilt bias for the status quo and the inbuilt bias over time appears to look to be risk-averse as opposed to embrace innovation because innovation and change are uncertain.My I guess request in my short contribution here this morning as we pull this together—and it will get done because it has the support not only of the Government but of the entire House—and as this framework is operationalised is that that culture of fleet-of-foot innovation the capacity to imagine what tomorrow will be and actually build systems to be able to respond to those changes sits at the very core of what we are trying to establish today. Thank you very much.