Young JonathanJONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth): A five-minute call—thank you sir. I think that Brett Hudson the previous National Party speaker has identified the issue that this is a city-centric move by this Government to build optionality in cities but that the regions miss out massively. You know the money that we pay in regional New Zealand is going to go for rail options in Auckland and in Wellington. We look at just even the recent announcement to get Wellington moving: $6.4 billion with 60 percent paid for by people out there who are paying more tax for petrol in the excise fuel tax in regional New Zealand in Hawke's Bay in Taranaki in Gisborne and in Southland. These are the people who are paying for these rail options that are in cities that as the previous speaker mentioned are going to be huge loss-leaders for transportation in the cities themselves. We have this mode shift mentality that wants to basically punish motorists and get people out of their cars get them on to bikes and get them into trains and yet it's the motorists who pay for it and the motorists receive no benefit. So we have a taxation without compensation. We have a taxation that is affecting people in regions of New Zealand where we see that there are projects being cancelled that would bring benefit to them and would bring faster travel times and safer travel times as well. We do not support what this Government is doing in this regard. When you think about the increases on top of an increase that already came in last year on 30 September of 4c including GST there is another 4c on 1 July and another 4c on 1 July next year and then on top of that of course Aucklanders are paying 12c plus GST as well it all adds up to an incredible amount of money that as the different speakers have said has a purpose around urban refurbishment and urban renewal. So once again we would make the criticism that actually this is using funds that motorists in cars are paying in an excise tax that is being redirected for purposes that it should not be. So can I just raise the point and reiterate what the Hon Paul Goldsmith raised and that is the fact that the cost of living increases for New Zealanders are mounting. We just need to be aware that with excise increases year after year after year—Hon Ruth Dyson: Ahem. JONATHAN YOUNG: —I'm referring to excise increases—year after year after year—SPEAKER: Just two years in this bill. JONATHAN YOUNG: I beg your pardon sir? SPEAKER: Just two years in this bill. JONATHAN YOUNG: Yeah. Year after year—right. Year after year—SPEAKER: Very good. JONATHAN YOUNG: So I'll say it twice—ha! But I think the point needs to be made that regional New Zealand is missing out on this analysis. I thank the member last night in the committee stage who said Don't worry the Labour Government is coming to the rescue of the people of Taranaki. We're doing Mount Messenger." and in fact you might recall that last week Simon Bridges asked the Minister "Can you name one genuinely new road this Government is building particularly in regional New Zealand?" and he said "We're starting Mount Messenger." Well that's where we expect excise tax money to be spent. But already Gerry Brownlee had put aside $30 million and Simon Bridges had put $100 million aside so for this Minister to claim—SPEAKER: Order! Order! JONATHAN YOUNG: —that he's starting that road—SPEAKER: Order! Order! Let's get back to the bill. JONATHAN YOUNG: Well the bill sir is that the people—SPEAKER: No no it's nothing to do with what Mr Brownlee and Mr Bridges did years ago. JONATHAN YOUNG: The final context of this bill is that it is a city-centric focus in terms of the excise tax increases that I believe that regional New Zealand is upset at. Sir just in my final closing comments I thank you for the opportunity to speak on this. I would suggest that the mode shift that the Minister wishes to initiate and lead through is going to be a misstep for this Government in terms of what the purpose of this excise tax is all about."