Ngaro Alfred: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNgaro Alfred: General Debate[Sitting date: 04 September 2013. Volume:693;Page:13256. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]ALFRED NGARO (National):Malo elelei. It is Tongan Language Week so I want to acknowledge our Tongan community that are out there. In fact I was honoured to be here in the House on Monday when we celebrated the launch of Tongan Language Week. One of the things I talked about then with our Tongan community was how they ignited the Rugby World Cup. What they did was gridlock Auckland Airport. There were 4000 or 5000 Tongans—you talk to many of them and they say there were 20000 Tongans—out there. There was a sea of red a wave that was going on to celebrate and ignite the world cup. It was great. The point of difference was this: it was the use of cultural capital to make a difference.Here is the interesting thing about that point: everybody wanted to own them. Labour said: “Isn’t that great?”. Those members looked at the colour and thought: “That represents us.” But here is what we are now hearing from our Tongan community and also from our Māori community: “Has Labour taken us for granted?”. Has it taken them for granted? The answer is yes it has.Where is the evidence for this? Well there is what Willie Jackson said. He may not always be loved and liked by the Labour Party but this is what he said. He said that in this contest of choosing a new leader it was time that the Labour Party which has for 80 years enjoyed the support of Māori made a difference. It is time for Labour to put its money where its mouth is and say: “Let’s elect a Māori leader”. Will it do it? No it will not.What aboutHaare Williams who is there in the Labour Party? He is the vice-president for the Māori elect. He said that it is time for Labour to stand up and take account. Māori have supported Labour for 80 long years Mr Clark—80 long years. Will Labour stand up? Will it take account? No it will not.Why will it not? I will tell you the reasons why. Labour has taken Māori and Pasifika for granted. Well I tell you what here is the writing on the wall and it is not from us; it is from your own. JosiePagani onQ+Aon Sundaylooking at the debate said: “Labour has lost touch like what Shane Jones said with the common people. It is about time we went back to where we are from.”Dr David Clark: They don’t like your casino deal. The Pasifika communities are betrayed.Carol Beaumont: How do you feel about having lost touch? You’ve lost touch.ALFRED NGARO: So here is the interesting thing Mr Clark that you need to listen to—and Mrs Beaumont. Here is the interesting thing that she said and you have got to take note of this: “Out of the 800000 votes that we potentially have lost”—because remember only 18 percent actually supported the Labour Party at the last election. This is what was said by JosiePagani. She said the information that they have and the surveys said that “they’re brown they’re young and they’re living in the regions.” She asked who when you look at the three contestants would best reflect the leadership that the young brown and in the regions could support. Guess what? It is Shane Jones. But will Labour members support him? No they will not. No they will not. No they will not.Your time has come. The time has come when Māori and Pasifika—and let us take a look at this. In 2005 Mike Williams a former president of the Labour Party said that the only reason why Labour won that election was South Auckland Pasifika voters who came up who showed up and who put their money where their mouth was. But guess what? You have taken them for granted. So guess what? Your days are over. And here is the reason why. I was over—Hon Trevor Mallard: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Although you might have announced your retirement I think it is inappropriate for the member on his feet—[Interruption] Which of us is standing me or him? It is inappropriate for him to suggest that your days are over.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Can I just say to the member that that is a frivolous interjection. That is absolutely not necessary.ALFRED NGARO: The only reason why that member stood up is that it is getting under his skin. It is getting under his skin. But guess what? Your skin is a white skin; this is a brown skin.Here is what you have got to know. I was at Caritas. There we were. Grant Robertson was there. Guess what they said? Labour is happy to show the statistics for Māori and Pacific. It is happy to say that it wants to do everything for you. But guess what? The new generation of Māori and Pacific say that they have had enough of you saying that you’re doing it for them.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Order!ALFRED NGARO: I apologise. We have had enough of the Labour Party saying that it is doing it for us. It is time that we want to do it for ourselves and that is the reason why you will no longer have favour. That is the reason why you are going to lose Māori and Pasifika votes coming to your table. This is the—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Order!ALFRED NGARO: I apologise. I am getting a little bit excited here but here is my final point which I want to put through. I just want to finally summarise with this.The problem with the Labour Party is this: I was born to a mother who was a cleaner—who had been a cleaner all her life—and a father who was a labourer and he was in unions. I am the reality of their aspiration and their dream. But guess what? Now that I have become the success of my family you do not know how to talk to us. You do not know how to talk to us. You don’t know how to work with us.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Order!ALFRED NGARO: The Labour Party does not know how to talk to us. The Labour Party does not know how to work with us and that is the reason why you will no longer have the favour—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Order!ALFRED NGARO: —of Māori and Pasifika who will support you. Thank you.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Can I just say to the member that I know that he was robust and passionate about his speech but every time the member mentions the word “you” you actually bring the Speaker into the debate. You can refer to a member on the other side or to the member’s party but you must not bring the Speaker into the debate.