Swarbrick ChlöeCHLÖE SWARBRICK (Green): E Te Māngai tēnā koe. I want to respond to a few points raised by Dr Shane Reti and also actually acknowledge him—I'm not sure if I've done that so far in this debate but I have throughout a number of other debates—for the work that he has undertaken in coming to the table and informing and educating his caucus as well and in moving the conversation across Aotearoa New Zealand actually and joining me and other members of Parliament in doing so.I think that his work is invaluable but I also want to acknowledge the point that he made around best practice and state that both myself and Shane—I believe it was earlier this week or it might have been last week—received a booklet from Medicinal Cannabis Awareness New Zealand on the point of best practice in different jurisdictions across the world. There are a number of different approaches to how we could go about rolling out a medicinal cannabis regime. I do believe that what Dr Shane Reti is proposing in Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 178 is what he believes is best practice but it isn't necessarily what has been found to be best practice in jurisdictions across the rest of the world.So to that point I also wanted to touch on what he's raised with regard to consulting with industry. It was earlier this morning actually that I touched base with Manu Caddie who is the lead of Hikurangi Enterprises which was actually the first New Zealand company—Kiritapu Allan: From the mighty East Coast.CHLÖE SWARBRICK: —from the mighty East Coast I might add for the sake of my colleague Kiritapu Allan. Manu Caddie is the head of Hikurangi Enterprises based in Ruatoria in the mighty East Coast and they were the first New Zealand company to receive a licence for medicinal cannabis in this country. It's actually largely an iwi-led organisation as well but it serves to reinvest in its community and has worked with the local Eastern Institute of Technology polytech to start creating a hemp course to train people and give them a second shot particularly those actually who have ended up being convicted under the Misuse of Drugs Act. I was down a few months ago—or rather up given that we're currently in Wellington—in the East Coast talking to a number of the people who are engaged in this education about the second chance that this is offering them to turn their lives around which is why I think it's important to focus on the proposals within Shane Reti's SOP particularly those with regard to eligibility for licences.I want to focus particularly on the point made in section 5(1)(b) in new schedule 6 around how people will not be granted licences if they have been convicted of an offence against this Act or of any other drug-related offence;". I just really want to pose the question: surely it is the case that these people who have been convicted of those drug offences have served their time? I mean what we've seen in jurisdictions across the world particularly in those that have taken a more conservative approach to developing medicinal cannabis frameworks is that the people who have been disproportionately targeted and penalised under the war on drugs and under the prohibition of cannabis are an entirely different demographic from those who are profiting from the developing market in medicinal cannabis. So I really just want to raise the question of equity and actually the question of Te Tiriti o Waitangi within this clause.So too I want to refer to the points around the director-general's ability to consider a person's—and I quote—"connections and associations that the person has with other persons who may have the ability to influence the conduct of the person:" and ask how broad that discretion goes. It seems somewhat disconcerting to me that that opens the door to prejudice or discrimination. That I think is a very worthwhile concern to be raising and I would love to hear Dr Shane Reti's response to that understanding that he would have his own perspective on why he's brought that to the table. Also the point around how a person's reputation may be considered is something which is rather disconcerting because reputation is obviously something which is somewhat subjective and I would argue goes further along the way of opening that door to discrimination.I also just briefly want to touch on the points raised particularly by Matt Doocey with regard to location where he's called it a "hothouse" where cannabis would be produced. I think that he may be referring to something else when he's speaking about hothouses but what we're talking about here is the location where cannabis is produced not consumed and those will be nailed down in the licensing scheme as delegated to the Ministry of Health."