Swarbrick ChlöeCHLÖE SWARBRICK (Green—Auckland Central): E te Māngai tēnā koe. Tēnā koutou e te Whare. As is custom I just wanted to shout out to the member in charge of this bill for the luck of the ballot the luck of the draw as it were and having the Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Cellar Door Tasting) Amendment Bill drawn.Just to cut through the suspense the Greens will be supporting this bill and to outline why that is—it's been incredibly frustrating over the past few years in this place as we've debated a number of pieces of law on liquor and alcohol regulation. Frequently we are operating in false absolutes when we are debating that. The Greens are consistent. I'd argue that we are the only party that is consistent on drug regulation in this country. Because just to actually unpack some of the sentiments that were outlined by my ACT Party colleague Nicole McKee around kind of red tape and the operation of those who operate within markets when you're talking about substances whether those substances are alcohol cannabis tobacco or otherwise you have a spectrum of regulatory approaches. At one extreme you have criminal prohibition and at the other extreme you have a complete legal unregulated free market. At both ends of those extremes you end up with the maximisation of harm because whether it is criminal entities or commercial entities in those environments and markets—whether they are legal or the black market—you are incentivised to exploit vulnerable communities to shift as much of your product as is possible to make a quick buck. So we pull away from those extremes through a process of sensible regulation. The things that this bill does is firstly allowing wineries to charge for samples without getting a separate on-licence—so they already have that licence. And the second is fixing an anomaly and that's a really important point to make that this is an anomaly that exists within the law which means that wineries with restaurants currently have to create a new business for their cellar doors in order to obtain an off-licence by adding a new category for on-licences available to wineries holding an on-licence. I've heard from other members that there has been lobbying with regards to the potential expansion of this to other alcohol trading businesses and I'd just actually like to make the point as expressed by my Labour colleague Rachel Boyack around how actually when you are looking at interventions with regard to how to reduce harm for certain substances one of the main mechanisms that we have available to us is pricing. So that's perhaps one of the fascinating ironies in this proposed bill is that we actually have a potential for reduction of harm through the ability to charge for these samples. I would just love to see some more logical consistency from the National Party on that point in particular. But prima facie this is quite a straightforward quite a simple and quite a sensible piece of law. I'm not going to pretend it's going to change the world with regard to harm reduction and it's definitely a bit of a long bow to propose that that is the case. But none the less I'm looking forward to those submissions at select committee. As I do have the floor I would like to make the point again that I would implore all members to have some logical consistency when it comes to approach to substances on these issues of harm reduction because we have the ability to disempower that black market where in the words of the ACT Party member actually no red tape exists. Drug dealers do not check ID they will up-sell young people to ever more harmful substances and in that black market we have unknown people consuming unknown substances to unknown consequences and no ability to intervene in that potentially problematic use. So the best way to ensure that we reduce that harm is through sensible regulation. And to that effect I'd say that we're well overdue for some meaningful investigation of whether our sale and supply of alcohol laws are actually living up to what they say on the tin. But the Greens support this. I'm looking forward to watching it progress through the House and select committee process and encourage all to submit at the select committee.