Wall Louisa; Rurawhe AdrianLOUISA WALL (Labour): Tēna koe e te Māngai o te Whare. Tēnā koutou katoa. And can I firstly acknowledge all colleagues across the House and thank you all very much for the opportunity for this bill to be passed tonight and then be referred to a select committee which actually will enable victims and others who are interested in this kaupapa to make submissions about how relevant it is. And I'm also expecting additions to the bill. And I say that because the area that we're talking about is evolving all the time.And so as part of I guess my trying to understand the issue I went and visited Associate Professor Wayne Rumbles and his team at Waikato University. He leads the Technology in Legal Education New Zealand project which is funded by the New Zealand Law Society. The interesting thing about that engagement is that he absolutely supports this bill but he was quick to highlight that there are missing elements in terms of digital communications digital technologies and specifically around deep fakes. And I wonder how many of us know what a deep fake is. Well if you're on TikTok you will have seen it recently because Tom Cruise has been seen to be doing a whole lot of things and the reality is it's not Tom Cruise: it's synthetic media. It's artificial intelligence. And so the issue that we have actually is about how those platforms can be used to abuse.And at this time I feel like I must acknowledge the Hon Judith Collins because in fact this bill was her bill when she was the Minister of Justice. And in 2012 it was National who created the regime and they did anticipate harm which is why within the Harmful Digital Communications Act there were provisions to ensure that harm wasn't perpetrated. Unfortunately it just wasn't fit for purpose. Just as we saw with the issue with our Māori wards bill it wasn't fit for purpose. It had an intention everyone was clear that we knew we had to mitigate harm but we have created a threshold that's too high.I guess I stand here also as a proud woman and a proud female member of this Parliament. And the reason I say that was—Willow-Jean Prime won't know this but—I actually submitted this as part of White Ribbon in 2019 and I did it deliberately to end all forms of violence against women and girls. I think because of the kaupapa it was picked. It isn't the devil that picks my bills Simon Bridges it's our atua. And I have to say that every time I've put something in that needed to be debated in this House it got picked. And so therein lies I guess an opportunity for all of us to do things that the community need the community want because ultimately from my perspective it is about our children and it is about ensuring that they can use digital communication safely.And I'm also anticipating that we need more education in this area. I actually don't want to criminalise people. I want to change their behaviour. I want people to know that if you don't have consent—no consent means no consent don't post it. If you do then you're actually committing a crime. I don't want people to go to jail but I think the other aspect of this bill—and we've had two cases recently that Anna Leask has highlighted and at the moment a woman in Christchurch had to take civil court action to have a sex tape removed from the internet; six months later they're still investigating. They're yet to decide if the man will face criminal charges. Well under this legislation it actually becomes crystal clear and so the police need these tools as well.But overall I'm hoping that we can use this technology for good not for bad. I do think as I said before there are aspects of this bill that are deficient. I look forward to those who are interested in this area making submissions. I particularly want to hear from principals and young people about how we can better educate them. Because the phenomenon of taking images of yourself and sharing them including having sex is now a form of foreplay. And Simon's right our kids are in a really vulnerable position if they don't realise that by doing that those images may be around forever. And so we need a lot of work to ensure that our kids are safe and that our legislation is actually fit for the future. Kia ora.Motion agreed to.Bill read a first time. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is That the Harmful Digital Communications (Unauthorised Posting of Intimate Visual Recording) Amendment Bill be considered by the Justice Committee. Motion agreed to.Bill referred to the Justice Committee.