edithatogo/nz-hansard-corpus huggingface dataset:
Williams Andrew: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilliams Andrew: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16539. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]ANDREW WILLIAMS (NZ First):I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I just want it on the record that for the second time today New Zealand First the fourth-biggest party in this House has been declined the right to speak on a bill—
Tisch Lindsay: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): That is not so because this bill has been before the Committee before. We have already done Part 1. We are on Part 2. I have been presiding the whole time that we have been on this debate. The member has not taken a call. The Committee will decide whether a closure motion is accepted or not. We had a closure motion and I have put it to the Committee. I will put it again.
Williams Andrew: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilliams Andrew: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]ANDREW WILLIAMS (NZ First):I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. New Zealand First has not had the right to speak on this bill at all yet.
Tisch Lindsay: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): The question is that the question be now put. Those of that opinion will say Aye to the contrary No. The Ayes have it.
Ross Jami-Lee: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16538. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National):I move That the question be now put.
Ross Jami-Lee: Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16535. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National):I move That the question be now put.
Goldsmith Paul: Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGoldsmith Paul: Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16533. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL GOLDSMITH (National):I move That the question be now put.
Williamson Maurice: Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilliamson Maurice: Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16527. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (Minister of Customs):I want to try to get this resolved because this is not the forum for the detailed questions about the contractual obligations. There will be select committee hearings on this which I am sure those members will want to have me at to ask me specific questions. This legislation the Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill does not include the contractual obligations for delivery.Let me just say to Mr Goff the previous speaker a couple of things. The original budget when first envisaged was around $76 million. The current expenditure looks to be around about $89 million. That is because of two quite significant changes in the requirements that we requested as part of the process. That is what I meant by “some creep”—some scope creep because over the years some new technologies like the World Customs Organization Data Model 3 come into play. I just want to repeat to the member that I have not said the system is in trouble. I have not said that there are problems with it other than those technicalities you get whenever you implement a brand new computer system including data problems and defects that need to be looked at and what is going on. All of those are being managed well.I repeat again: it is not like INCIS which never got started so do not start doing a comparison with INCIS. It never got started.Dr David Clark: Novopay—more like Novopay?Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON: No it is not like Novopay at all because they pulled the pin on the dual service while it was not working. This is working fine and for me the real test out there is whether the users of the system are happy with it. If the member can—instead of going through some sneaky little gorse bush and saying he knows somebody in the Customs Service who reckons there are troubles—show me one company out there that has currently been migrated on to it that does not like it that is the real test. I mean if you take Novopay I can show you lots of teachers in my electorate who do not like what is going on. Show me one company that has migrated on to it that does not like what is currently operational. That is the test. Oh there is a lot of silence now—a lot of silence now. I would look forward to learning that company’s name.I am not even going to address the issues of the Green member Steffan Browning. I do not know what planet he is on but I did not even understand half of what he was talking about. If you think that some—what was it? “Tee-cha-lee-dee”? I do not know what it was but it was some tick on a horse that was called “tee-cha-lee-dee” and somehow that was my fault. I am sorry but different planet could not understand need to get an interpreter.
Williamson Maurice: Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilliamson Maurice: Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16519. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (Minister of Customs):I will take only a very brief call at the beginning of this because I am forever hopeful that this will be one of those bills going through the House that most people will not be discussing at their breakfast table tomorrow morning.Hon Members: No no!Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON: Well methinks my colleagues give this too high a level rating. I think that people will probably be more likely to be discussing the flag than they are likely to be discussing this bill tomorrow. It is trying to bring the customs and the biosecurity systems into the modern era. As most members know there is a major big development of computer systems going on called the Joint Border Management System. The Trade Single Window part of that is almost complete; there are a few more modules to finalise that are in the testing phase. What the Trade Single Window will do is allow for both exporters and importers to be able to work with one screen and file their documents electronically. Those documents will then populate all of the databases in the network that are required—a food safety database or a biosecurity database or whatever.Currently the Customs and Excise Act 1996—again this will not be a surprise to members because I think the internet was actually declared as only 22 or 23 years old yesterday—Tim Macindoe: Twenty-five yesterday.Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON: Twenty-five yesterday—OK that is all right. We did not get it in Parliament till about 1993 or 1994. When the 1996 Customs and Excise Act was going we still had green pixilated screens and dot matrix printers so what this bill is to do is to bring the legislation into the modern era.I will not go through it all unless members are quite concerned about specifics. It includes technicalities about giving the Chief Executive of the Customs Service the right to cancel registration of users because a new registration system will be required so that users can identify themselves from remote locations and do their transactions. There is quite a lot to this bill in terms of technical and basically computer-based systems but in the end I think it can be summarised as just bringing the Trade Single Window bit of the Joint Border Management System into this legislation so that it can be done. I understand that when we get to the end of the third reading we will split it so that people will be able to follow the two bills. I will wait to see what members have got to ask.
Macindoe Tim: Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16519. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (Junior Whip—National):I seek leave for all parts of the Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill to be taken as one debatable question.The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): One debate and questions separately. Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There appears not. Leave is granted.
Macindoe Tim: Families Commission Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Families Commission Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16513. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (Junior Whip—National):I move That the question be now put.
Lee Melissa: Families Commission Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLee Melissa: Families Commission Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16512. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MELISSA LEE (National):I move That the question be now put.
Ngaro Alfred: Families Commission Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNgaro Alfred: Families Commission Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16510. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]ALFRED NGARO (National):I move That the question be now put.
Tisch Lindsay: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16500. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): To the member who is just arriving Brendan Horan because you are now in the Chamber you are required to vote. I will just ask the Clerk. We are voting on clause 2 of the Electoral Amendment Bill. The Clerk is going to call for your vote.
Foster-Bell Paul: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFoster-Bell Paul: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16500. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL FOSTER-BELL (National):I move That the question be now put.
Carter David: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16486. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I thank all members for their points. I am going to refer members to Speakers’ rulings 64/4 and 64/5. In essence what those Speakers’ rulings say is that it is not for me as Speaker to second-guess the Chairperson’s acceptance of a closure motion. I was not in my office listening to the debate but I am mindful of the point that Eric Roy made as Chairman of the debate that he felt that the debate was already getting loose and that he had taken the opportunity of cautioning the Committee that if members wanted to further debate it they needed to tighten it up. In this particular case the Chairman has made a decision that there have been 19 calls and a number of closure motions. He is the person who is listening to the debate. He has decided that the matter has been adequately debated. On that basis I am accepting the position of Mr Eric Roy as Chairman. I therefore declare the House returning to Committee.
Mallard Trevor: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16486. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):It is just a straight matter of fact. Dr Smith said that Mr O’Rourke did not contest the call before the Chairman ruled; he did.
Smith Nick: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSmith Nick: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16486. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon Dr NICK SMITH (Minister of Conservation):I have been in the House since the Committee resumed on this bill after question time and I think the Chair of the Committee has diligently carried out his duties. When he said to the House that Mr O’Rourke had not been seeking the call there had been a number of closure motions. On several of those occasions two or three members rose to take the call. Mr O’Rourke was not one of them until after Mr Roy had accepted the closure motion. That is where I thought Mr Roy the Chair of the Committee properly presented the case. He quite properly reported to the House that had Mr O’Rourke been repeatedly seeking the call since the Committee started after question time he might have a fair point but he had not been. It was only at the very last opportunity that he sought the call and that is when Mr Roy quite properly represented the events that occurred in the Committee in his justification for accepting the closure motion.
O'Rourke Denis: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeO'Rourke Denis: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16486. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DENIS O’ROURKE (NZ First):What has just been said is completely incorrect. It is true that I took the fourth call but today I sought another call. What the Chairman said was that that had not happened—that no such call had been sought. I did immediately before he ruled seek to speak. I wanted to speak about some of the detail of the bill. In my first call I had talked only about some of the general issues concerned. So what has been said is not correct and I think what Mr Mallard said was correct. This debate should not have been curtailed at this stage.
Upston Louise: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUpston Louise: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16486. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]LOUISE UPSTON (Senior Whip—National):In the original point of order raised the member Mr O’Rourke said he had not taken a call in this debate. According to our records he did take a call in the first part of the debate which was not today but on a prior occasion. So I do not believe that the facts that were put on the table in the point of order were correct.
Lees-Galloway Iain: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLees-Galloway Iain: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16485. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Labour—Palmerston North):Just raising a point out of the commentary the Chairman made he said that every member who has a Supplementary Order Paper in their name had been given every opportunity to speak to that Supplementary Order Paper. My colleague Maryan Street has certainly had one opportunity to speak but she was seeking further calls.Louise Upston: No she’s taken two calls.IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY: The senior Government whip is interrupting me. I point out that every member has the right to up to four 5-minute calls on each part of a bill. Maryan Street was seeking further calls in order to speak to her Supplementary Order Paper 416. There were also a number of questions raised to the Minister in the chair the Minister of Commerce none of which has been addressed. The issues the Opposition members are raising are around changes that have occurred to the legislation with little or no explanation. The Committee of the whole House is the opportunity for the Opposition to ask for explanations of the Minister and thus far none has been forthcoming so it seemed appropriate to us that the debate continue.
Mallard Trevor: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16485. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):Mr Speaker I moved to have you recalled. The reason for so moving was a very simple one. There was a suggestion from the Chairman that Mr O’Rourke had not sought the call. Mr O’Rourke had sought the call. That was part of the judgment the Chairman gave in making his decision. In my view he was wrong. There is a supplementary point that flows from what the Chairman said. This is not a debate about the principles of the bill; this is a debate about the details of Part 1. Mr Goff the previous speaker spoke extensively on the details of that part over a 10-minute call. If he had not been speaking on the details of course the Chairman would have given the call to someone else after 5 minutes.
Roy Eric: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16485. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): Mr Speaker the House in Committee has moved that you be recalled to determine whether my judgment in accepting a closure motion was an appropriate course of action. The debate on Part 1 of the Electoral Amendment Bill has been in progress over two sessions and by the records I have in front of me there have been 19 calls on the bill itself plus four closure motions. I have taken care to ensure that everybody who has a Supplementary Order Paper to the bill has had as many calls as they desire. I would just say that the debate had tended in my view to move away from the principles of the bill to a looser more general debate and so I gave one caution and I determined that in fact the principles of Part 1 of the bill had been well and truly debated. On top of that there was a claim by Denis O’Rourke that New Zealand First had not had a call in this debate. It had the fourth call in this debate so in fact that was a claim in error. On reflection I am quite convinced that a satisfactory debate on Part 1 of this bill has taken place.
Mallard Trevor: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16485. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):Because this is an electoral matter something which is constitutional I move That the Chairperson report progress to obtain the Speaker’s ruling regarding the acceptance of a closure motion by the Chairperson.Motion agreed to.House resumed.
Roy Eric: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16485. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): Order! I am on my feet. There have been over 20 calls. During my time and the time that I watched it there was no attempt by New Zealand First to take a call. That may not be the case. The Committee will now determine whether it wants the debate to continue. [Interruption] I have already ruled. The member will—[Interruption] I have ruled. The member will sit. [Interruption] The member did not listen and I have ruled. [Interruption] No I do not need any assistance. The Clerk will now conduct a party vote.
O'Rourke Denis: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeO'Rourke Denis: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16485. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DENIS O’ROURKE (NZ First):I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. New Zealand First has not yet had a speaker in this debate and it—
Roy Eric: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16485. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): The question is that the question be now put. Those of that opinion will say Aye to the contrary No. Party vote? The Clerk will conduct a party vote.
Hayes Joanne: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes Joanne: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16485. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOANNE HAYES (National):I move That the question be now put.
Wilkinson Kate: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilkinson Kate: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16482. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon KATE WILKINSON (National—Waimakariri):I move That the question be now put.
Roy Eric: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Electoral Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16476. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): When the Committee last considered this bill we were debating Part 1 and the Hon Maryan Street—[Interruption] Order! If members are leaving would they leave quietly please. The Hon Maryan Street had the call and has just on 4 minutes remaining if she wishes.
Carter David: Points of Order — Earthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Points of Order — Earthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPs[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16476. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I have already explained it to the member and I do not want to have to do it for a third time. There was no undertaking given. There was certainly a statement made. If members feel aggrieved that they have not been suitably addressed they should in the first instance take it up with the Minister concerned.
Mallard Trevor: Points of Order — Earthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Points of Order — Earthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPs[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16476. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. What remedy does a member have when an undertaking to this House has been breached? In the past if an undertaking has been made to table a document the Speaker has helped. My question is what remedy does a member have?
Carter David: Points of Order — Earthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Points of Order — Earthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPs[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16475. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! That is a matter for discussion between those members and the Minister if they so choose. It is not a relevant point of order.Hon Trevor Mallard: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: Before I hear the Hon Trevor Mallard I just want to make sure that he is not in any way questioning the decision I have just made regarding the validity of that point of order.Hon Trevor Mallard: Well no I cannot give that undertaking.Mr SPEAKER: Well then the member had better sit down because he is questioning my ruling.Hon Trevor Mallard: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: If the member is raising a fresh point of order I will hear it.Hon Trevor Mallard: It is a fresh point of order.Mr SPEAKER: And it is not contesting my ruling?Hon Trevor Mallard: No Mr Speaker it is asking you to explain it.Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member will resume his seat. I have said that it is not a valid point of order. The member has had the opportunity of making a political comment. That is not what points of order are for. If those particular members feel aggrieved they have got every opportunity to take it up with the Minister involved. It is not something that concerns the order of this House.
Dyson Ruth: Points of Order — Earthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDyson Ruth: Points of Order — Earthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPs[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16475. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon RUTH DYSON (Labour—Port Hills):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I raise this point of order to seek your advice. Last week in the House the Hon Amy Adams on behalf of the Hon Gerry Brownlee said this: “the Minister unreservedly apologises and will be writing personally to those MPs with his apologies.” He was referring to the Christchurch Labour MPs. I have received an undated written apology but my colleagues have not. I seek your assistance in getting Mr Brownlee to—[Interruption]
Delahunty Catherine: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDelahunty Catherine: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16474. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]11.CATHERINE DELAHUNTY (Green)to the Minister for the Environment: Does she think that companies should be allowed to pollute our rivers for an unlimited amount of time using section 107(2) of the Resource Management Act 1991 or does she think that the use of “exceptional circumstances” should be time limited?Hon AMY ADAMS (Minister for the Environment):Despite the allegation in the member’s question companies are not allowed to pollute our rivers for an unlimited period of time. Section 107(2)(a) of the Resource Management Act which the member refers to has been used on only rare occasions which have been subject to stringent oversight and control by the Environment Court and never for an unlimited period of time. I note that the Local Government and Environment Committee has considered and rejected the member’s proposal to amend that section and in my view rightly so.Catherine Delahunty: So will she support my member’s bill which would limit to 5 years the amount of time companies can pollute our rivers without impacting on current consents; if not can she explain why not any further than she already has done because it was not a good enough reason I am sorry.Hon AMY ADAMS: Well I am devastated that the member did not like the answer I have already given to that question but I can tell her that no I will not be supporting it for the same reasons that the select committee has recommended that the bill not proceed: it is not necessary and it is not helpful.Catherine Delahunty: Is she saying that the majority of New Zealanders—in fact 92 percent in a recent poll—are wrong to expect our rivers such as Tarawera to be clean enough to swim in?Hon Gerry Brownlee: No; just that your bill’s hopeless.Hon AMY ADAMS: Well I am not sure that I can improve on Gerry Brownlee’s answer to that question but I would certainly dispute the finding that she has reported as giving that example. But what I do say to the member is that there is no evidence that her amendment to section 107(2)(a) of the Resource Management Act is necessary or helpful.
Hutchison Paul: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHutchison Paul: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16473. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]10.Dr PAUL HUTCHISON (National—Hunua)to the Minister of Health: What investment is the Government making in improving health services in West Auckland?Hon TONY RYALL (Minister of Health):Waitematā District Health Board will invest $10 million to upgrade and expand the emergency department at Waitakere Hospital. The expansion will see the department almost double in size to 19 new cubicles four new rooms and better facilities for patients and whānau. This investment will contribute to the significant improvements that people in west Auckland have had over the last 5 years in terms of health services.Dr Paul Hutchison: Why are the improvements to Waitakere Hospital’s emergency department needed?Hon TONY RYALL: Over the past 8 years the number of patients presenting to the department has increased substantially. I have to say that health services at Waitakere have improved significantly since 2008 when the emergency department was regularly closed it was not operating 24 hours due to a lack of staffing and newspaper headlines shouted “Hospital emergency department in ‘crisis’ ” and “Hospital staff shortages cut emergency care”. Meanwhile the local MP and Minister of Health David Cunliffe was famously running the show back then.
Auchinvole Chris: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeAuchinvole Chris: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16471. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]8.CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National)to the Minister of Labour: What recent progress has the Government made on health and safety reform in New Zealand?Hon SIMON BRIDGES (Minister of Labour):The biggest health and safety reforms of the last 20 years were brought one step closer yesterday when I introduced the Health and Safety Reform Bill to this House. The bill is part of the Government’s Working Safer reform package which will improve health and safety throughout New Zealand and play an important role in meeting our target of reducing workplace injuries and fatalities by 25 percent by 2020. I look forward to wide support in this House for this legislation.Chris Auchinvole: What does the bill specifically do in order to improve the health and safety culture in New Zealand?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: The bill repeals and replaces the current health and safety legislative framework. It will beef up penalties for non-compliance including new enforcement tools and court powers place more of an onus on managers and directors to manage risk and require greater worker participation so that workers are more involved in health and safety in their workplace. The bill will be supported by two tranches of regulations as well as codes of practice and guidance. Achieving the step change we need to see in health and safety is not something that the Government can do alone. Business and workers must all share responsibility for sustainable change.Darien Fenton: What extra resources will be available to enforce the new obligations on worker engagement and participation under the bill and how will the training of workers be funded?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: It is a good question from the member. She will be well aware that a significant—and perhaps the most important—part of the Working Safer reform package was the establishment of WorkSafe New Zealand. The funding for that body has gone from $50 million as a regulator to some $80 million and I expect within that it will be putting resources into worker participation issues.Hon Damien O’Connor: In regard to accountability and penalties for health and safety breaches that the Minister is referring to who was Judge Farish referring to when she said that the decision not to proceed with the case against Peter Whittall was made “at the highest levels”—was it the Minister of Labour or was it the chief executive of the Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: I played no part in the decisions in relation to Peter Whittall and his prosecution.
Sage Eugenie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSage Eugenie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16470. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]7.EUGENIE SAGE (Green)to the Minister for the Environment: Will she strengthen the proposed water quality national objectives for human health so that New Zealanders can safely swim in our rivers?Hon AMY ADAMS (Minister for the Environment):Consultation on the amendments to the National Policy Statement on Freshwater Management and the creation of the National Objectives Framework has recently closed and no final decisions have yet been made. What I will say to the member is that the proposals will help to improve water quality across New Zealand particularly through the national bottom lines and a collaborative option for water management. Many of the attributes necessary to meet bottom lines will be attributes that will also improve water towards swimmability. As I have said before where a community determines that particular rivers or lakes are valued for swimming the National Objectives Framework provides a robust scientifically backed set of attributes that help communities to plan to meet that objective. These are bottom lines not targets and they do not limit the ability for communities to set an objective of swimmability. In fact they make it easier to do so.Eugenie Sage: Is the Minister saying that New Zealanders just have to give up on central government taking the lead and ensuring our rivers are clean enough to swim in?Hon AMY ADAMS: No. Central government has finally under this National-led Government stepped up and shown leadership through the creation of a national policy statement through the creation of a National Objectives Framework through the creation of community-led collaborative planning and through the institution of water metering and water management techniques. Finally they are getting some action from central government.Eugenie Sage: Does the Minister agree with the Otago Regional Council’s submission that the Government’s proposed national bottom lines for water quality would result in water bodies that are unsafe for swimming recreation and food gathering including water that is potentially toxic smothered in periphyton unable to sustain sensitive fish species unsafe for swimming unsafe for allowing your dog to swim in and unsafe for stock consumption; if not why not?Hon AMY ADAMS: Absolutely not because it is finally the decision of each community as to what objectives they want for their water quality. For the first time ever those communities will not be allowed to choose toxic unhealthy water levels because the National Government is insisting on national bottom lines. Above that it is for each community led by their regional council to choose their objectives and to work towards them. So if the Otago Regional Council is concerned about it they are in exactly the right position to address it.
Joyce Steven: Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 6 to Minister 5 MarchText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeJoyce Steven: Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 6 to Minister 5 March[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16461. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister for Tertiary Education Skills and Employment):I seek leave to make a personal explanation to correct an answer to question No. 6 on 5 March.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is none.Hon STEVEN JOYCE: I stated to the House on that date that the number of Māori students enrolled in qualifications at Bachelor’s degree level or higher had increased to nearly 29000 in 2012. That was incorrect. The correct figure is nearly 22000. It remains an increase of 25 percent on 2007 numbers.
Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 10 to Minister 6 MarchText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeAmended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 10 to Minister 6 March[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16544. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Amended Answers to Oral QuestionsQuestion No. 10 to Minister 6 MarchHon Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA (Minister of Pacific Island Affairs):I seek leave to make a personal explanation to correct an answer in question No. 10 on 6 March.Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There is not.Hon Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA: On 6 March in response to question No. 10 I stated to the House that course completion rates for Pasifika students at all levels were up to 74 percent in 2012 compared with 54 percent in 2007. The correct figure for 2007 is 58 percent.Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: The record will stand corrected. That ends the day’s business.
Voting — Correction—Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) BillText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVoting — Correction—Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16541. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]VotingCorrection—Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) BillThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Just before I call Andrew Williams there is a correction to the vote on the closure motion on the Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill. The Ayes were 63 and the Noes were 56. This correction is not for the bill that we are currently on; it is for the previous bill.
Points of Order — Earthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePoints of Order — Earthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPs[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16475. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Points of OrderEarthquake Commission Minister—Apology to Christchurch Labour MPsHon RUTH DYSON (Labour—Port Hills):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I raise this point of order to seek your advice. Last week in the House the Hon Amy Adams on behalf of the Hon Gerry Brownlee said this: “the Minister unreservedly apologises and will be writing personally to those MPs with his apologies.” He was referring to the Christchurch Labour MPs. I have received an undated written apology but my colleagues have not. I seek your assistance in getting Mr Brownlee to—[Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order! That is a matter for discussion between those members and the Minister if they so choose. It is not a relevant point of order.Hon Trevor Mallard: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: Before I hear the Hon Trevor Mallard I just want to make sure that he is not in any way questioning the decision I have just made regarding the validity of that point of order.Hon Trevor Mallard: Well no I cannot give that undertaking.Mr SPEAKER: Well then the member had better sit down because he is questioning my ruling.Hon Trevor Mallard: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: If the member is raising a fresh point of order I will hear it.Hon Trevor Mallard: It is a fresh point of order.Mr SPEAKER: And it is not contesting my ruling?Hon Trevor Mallard: No Mr Speaker it is asking you to explain it.Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member will resume his seat. I have said that it is not a valid point of order. The member has had the opportunity of making a political comment. That is not what points of order are for. If those particular members feel aggrieved they have got every opportunity to take it up with the Minister involved. It is not something that concerns the order of this House.Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. What remedy does a member have when an undertaking to this House has been breached? In the past if an undertaking has been made to table a document the Speaker has helped. My question is what remedy does a member have?Mr SPEAKER: I have already explained it to the member and I do not want to have to do it for a third time. There was no undertaking given. There was certainly a statement made. If members feel aggrieved that they have not been suitably addressed they should in the first instance take it up with the Minister concerned.
Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 6 to Minister 5 MarchText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeAmended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 6 to Minister 5 March[Sitting date: 11 March 2014. Volume:697;Page:16461. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Tuesday 11 March 2014Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.Amended Answers to Oral QuestionsQuestion No. 6 to Minister 5 MarchHon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister for Tertiary Education Skills and Employment):I seek leave to make a personal explanation to correct an answer to question No. 6 on 5 March.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is none.Hon STEVEN JOYCE: I stated to the House on that date that the number of Māori students enrolled in qualifications at Bachelor’s degree level or higher had increased to nearly 29000 in 2012. That was incorrect. The correct figure is nearly 22000. It remains an increase of 25 percent on 2007 numbers.
Tisch Lindsay: Hawke’s Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Hawke’s Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 04 November 2014. Volume:694;Page:599. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): To continue beyond the lunch adjournment?Joanne Hayes: Yes beyond.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection.
Hayes Joanne: Hawke’s Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes Joanne: Hawke’s Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 04 November 2014. Volume:694;Page:599. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOANNE HAYES (Third Whip—National):I seek leave for this debate on the Hawke’s Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill to continue into the lunch adjournment if necessary.
Korako Nuk: Hawke’s Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeKorako Nuk: Hawke’s Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 04 November 2014. Volume:694;Page:598. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]NUK KORAKO (National):Kia ora. E mihi atu ki a koutou katoa e ngā manuhiri a tuaraki ki a koe. Tēnā koutou katoa o ngā tuākana o Koukunu Mātakirau. E mihi tēnei nā raro i te puke tapu e kīia nei ko Te Poho o Tamatea Tuaraka o Te Wai Pounamu ngā mihi. E mihi atu ki a koe o Ngāi Pāhauwera. E mihi o te uri o Kahu o Te Raki ēnā mauka o Tāwhirirangi o te awa o Mōhaka ngā mihi.[Thank you. I acknowledge you all visitors from afar and you in particular. I salute you all elder siblings of Koukunu Mātakirau from beneath the sacred hillock referred to as the Bosom of Tamatea Tuaraka of the South Island greetings. I acknowledge you Ngāi Pāhauwera and relatives of Kahu of Te Raki of those mountains of Tāwhirirangi and of the river Mōhaka greetings.]I have been to your marae. You have a beautiful wharekai that looks like the Roman Colosseum—wonderful. Kia ora Toro. I have also taken a number of your kaumātua when we went across to North Africa Italy Gallipoli with D Company 28th Māori Battalion. Kia ora ngā mihi.Can I also acknowledge this truly incredible bill which really signifies the fact about kotahitanga. This bill the Hawke’s Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill really does incorporate Māori and non-Māori in that whole area of collectiveness. What I want to do here is first of all to commend this bill to the House and also say that this bill is coming towards a journey that I am privileged to receive as the chair of the Māori Affairs Committee. We look forward to receiving this bill and sending it back to the House. Nō reira e mihi atu ki a koutou katoa kia ora.
Hayes Joanne: Te Hiku Claims Settlement Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes Joanne: Te Hiku Claims Settlement Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 04 November 2014. Volume:694;Page:593. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOANNE HAYES (National):Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. I am pleased to stand to take a very short call on the first reading of the Te Hiku Claims Settlement Bill. Ngā whānau me ngā hapū ngā iwi o Te Hiku nau mai haere mai i tēnei rā te rā whakahirahira mō ngā iwi o Te Aupouri NgāiTakoto Te Rarawa me Ngāti Kuri.[Welcome to the families subtribes and tribes of Te Hiku today a wonderful one at that for the tribes of Te Aupouri Ngāi Takoto Te Rarawa and Ngāti Kuri. Welcome.]Today is the start of a great celebration the light at the end of the tunnel that each of the iwi has travelled. It is one that began with many of your tūpuna and will conclude with your mokopuna now and into the future. This legislation will see the return of one of the largest blocks of land to Māori ownership as one of my colleagues outlined before: the spiritual link to our ancestral home of Hawaiki Te Rerenga Wairua and Te Oneroa-a-Tōhe or Ninety Mile Beach and many other places of cultural significance. I could go on and on but I will stop for now and speak a little bit more at the later stages. So for now I am pleased to commend this bill to the House. Kia ora.Bill read a first time.Bill referred to the Māori Affairs Committee.Waiata
Tisch Lindsay: Te Hiku Claims Settlement Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Te Hiku Claims Settlement Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 04 November 2014. Volume:694;Page:584. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection.Documents by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Davis Kelvin: Te Hiku Claims Settlement Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDavis Kelvin: Te Hiku Claims Settlement Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 04 November 2014. Volume:694;Page:584. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]KELVIN DAVIS (Labour—Te Tai Tokerau):I seek leave to table two letters from Te Rūnanga-a-Iwi O Ngāti Kahu outlining their concerns with the bill.