McAnulty KieranHon KIERAN McANULTY (Minister for Emergency Management): Thank you Madam Speaker. The National Party are treating New Zealanders like fools. They think that they can say one thing to one group and another thing to another group and that no one will notice. They think that they can sign this country up to international climate change agreements do nothing and then when this Government does something they can complain and no one will join the dots. But here we are today seeing exactly the same thing. Damien O'Connor stands there today and outlines a pragmatic approach to work with industry to deal with agricultural emissions and the National Party scream out We need the technology first." as if no one in the country can remember what that party did. When the Helen Clark Government proposed a levy for agricultural research to deal with methane emissions their leader Bill English stood on the forecourt of Parliament and held a sign that said "The mad cow shouldn't have signed". The National Party MPs walked around the forecourt of Parliament saying "No fart tax"—a levy that would have paid for research into agriculture emissions and reducing methane emissions—and now they stand up today and say "We couldn't possibly do anything to address this." They're ignoring the future-value markets that we could capitalise on ignoring all the facts that are in front of them and saying "We can't do it until we have the research and technology." despite the fact that they have denied and opposed every effort to get there. They signed us up to the Kyoto Protocol and then did nothing they signed us up to the Paris Agreement and then did nothing and every step along the way that this Government has tried to work with industry to reduce emissions they have whinged they have moaned and they have opposed. They tell the country that they want to meet the targets that this Parliament has agreed to on reducing agricultural emissions by 2030 yet when we have a proposal that has been put together by industry and led by industry initially—under Barbara Kuriger—they come up with a measured response. Then Luxon gets the yips and says "No we're going to reverse it. We're going to repeal it." So how on earth are they going to live up to the commitment that they have made to join forces and actually reduce agricultural emissions by 2030 which is what they say to one group when they say to the other groups "No we're going to reverse it."? It doesn't add up and I don't think that New Zealanders will fall for it. Nicola Grigg: They're all telling you it doesn't work. Maybe start listening. Hon KIERAN McANULTY: And Nicola Grigg can yell all she likes like she did during Damien O'Connor's speech. "We need the technology."—where was that when we were proposing a levy to put money into agricultural research? They are deliberately ignoring the fact that anything raised through this proposal will go into agricultural research to ensure that farmers can continue to obtain as much value as possible in high-value markets and have a sustainable industry. They seem to believe that New Zealanders will fall for the idea that if we do nothing we will magically reach the targets that we've committed to and that farmers won't have to deal with climate change. Now in my role as emergency management Minister I see week in week out the reality of climate change. It is farmers and rural communities that are bearing the brunt and I think it's incredibly disingenuous for Nicola Grigg to laugh as I'm outlining the impact on rural communities the communities that she is supposed to look after and that she is supposed to advocate for. Go to Marlborough and laugh go to Nelson and laugh go to Northland and laugh—Nicola Grigg: Point of order Madam Speaker. I'd just place for the record that I take offence to that comment that I should "Go to Marlborough love"—this coming from one of the biggest-named bullies in this Parliament. Hon KIERAN McANULTY: Speaking to the point of order I think that was unnecessary when it was clear to everybody that I said "laugh" not "love". I was talking about her laughing during comments about the impact on rural communities. There is no way that I would ever call another parliamentarian "love". ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): I heard the comment Nicola Grigg and he did say "laugh' not "love". Continue the Hon Kieran McAnulty. Hon KIERAN McANULTY: Thank you very much Madam Speaker. Nevertheless despite what I think is a genuine misunderstanding there—I'll put it down to that—I think I did hit a nerve because there is a track record here. There's a track record of saying that there was no housing crisis and then when this Government comes in and deals with the housing crisis they criticise and say that there are no houses—and yet again they laugh. I'll give you an example. In Wairarapa in 1999 the National Party sold all the State houses in our region—in Wairarapa and in the Tararua District—and it's this Government that is bringing social housing back to that region. They can try and hoodwink the country all they like but no one I believe is going to fall for it."