SpeechHon SHANE JONES (Minister of Forestry): Tēnā koutou katoa. I join with the other members of the House in acknowledging the sterling efforts of our neighbours our communities our children and our families in showing the resilience to go through the different phases of the COVID lockdown. We went with great rapidity into this lockdown phase and we are moving with the best of health advice and pragmatic political judgment in withdrawing from it. But I must say in this general debate it's very disheartening to watch the member from Taupō bring sad cases and try and improve the delivery of her speech by using them I would say for political purposes. I think it lowers the tone of the debate. I think it lowers the tone of the House.And there's an awful habit that seems to have been developed by the Leader of the Opposition who quite frankly is the political version of the Lonely Hearts Club desperately seeking for companionship looking for affirmation. Just look in the mirror. Kiwis are not wanting to see petty point-scoring; Kiwis are wanting to see the politicians bind together and work to create momentum so we come out of the COVID economic coma into a rapid ascent to better economic outcomes. So I'm very disappointed that we're actually seeing members on the other side of the House trotting out these stories. I've no doubt that there are a host of Kiwi families who have had some very sad experiences and I happen to know a few of them but it would never occur to me to use those stories in an attempt to hold the Minister of Health or the Leader of the House or the Minister of Justice personally responsible for that outcome. It is wrong and it will not work on 19 September.The model that we had taken for granted in relation to economics has been inverted. There will be no more international education in the form that was developed by the last regime. International education is obviously very important for our secondary schools. I think it enriches the lives of the school community. It certainly opens up the eyes of fair dinkum Kiwi kids as to how their peers think live and relate to each other around the world and when they see it in action in their school. I took advice from Derek McCormick—the second time I've used that man's name in the House. He gave some very solid advice as to what ought to be the blend to enable universities to continue to offer a competitive menu to attract university students here.But I give fair notice: this notion that we are going to uncritically breathe life back into the private training education sector where young students were abused young students were ill informed their parents overseas went into inordinate levels of debt and they came here desperate to achieve citizenship through courses that quite frankly wouldn't have matched up to third-form woodwork at St. Stephen's School in 1973—not that I excelled in woodwork; I was more interested in debate and oratory and other such matters. Although I must say I have become something of an expert in woodwork over the break. I turned my attention to building a gardening box for my mother-in-law and my wāhine. I did avoid doing one particular thing: asking the shadow Leader of the House Mr Brownlee to judge said gardening box not only because he is a genuine expert—and I don't mean that in any petty way—with building but I didn't want to ever give him the opportunity of saying Your tongue might be active but your eye cannot cut a straight line."The line that we will cut will be revealed tomorrow in the Budget. The Prime Minister has identified that jobs are central to ensuring resilience and stronger outcomes for all of our communities. And we will wait for our senior colleague Grant Robertson who has clearly said there was the 1935-38 applied Christianity approach of the Savage Government; then nigh on 50 years later came the form of Roger Douglas and a host of other reformers; and now 35 years later Grant Robertson will have the chance tomorrow to show there is a new blend new hope and new momentum."