Young JonathanJONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth): Thank you Madam Chair and can I just support the previous speakers in their comments. Yes indeed Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 118 is certainly a very substantive SOP. It's probably the biggest SOP I've seen introduced in this Parliament—95 pages. In fact it would be just about the same length—no. In fact it's longer than the bill that went through the select committee. So obviously there's been a lot of discussion talking and to-ing and fro-ing between the Minister and his officials since we reported it back to the House. Just to echo my colleague Andrew Falloon's comments certainly when there are such substantive changes perhaps it would have been wiser for the Minister to return the SOP to the Economic Development Science and Innovation Committee just to be updated at least and to have some input into those various other amendments that came. Perhaps the Minister in the chair tonight could explain to us some of those changes over those 95 pages. That would be very interesting. I want to just touch on—as the previous speaker did speak regarding it—the 111 Commission contact code. There were quite a number of submitters who were very concerned that as they move away from copper a system which they have some safety and security and certainly confidence in to a purely digital form of communication—when there are at times power blackouts as occurs on occasion throughout the country for various different reasons they were concerned that they could have the assurance that they would be able to contact the emergency services as the case may need at different times. So I would think some of the questions to the Minister are what suggestions have been proposed to the Minister by officials regarding options for the practical implementation of the Commission 111 contact code's objective to require the providers of those services to supply vulnerable consumers at no cost to the consumers with an appropriate means for contacting the 111 emergency service that can be operated for the minimum period in the event of a power failure;" as proposed in the proposed new section 232A(3)(d) to be inserted in Part 7 in clause 33? I guess those are indeed questions which people—particularly the elderly amongst our communities who often have mobility challenges and issues—who want to be able to if necessary contact 111 have. That might be not for a fire but it may actually be because they have fallen over in their house and they are unable to put themselves back on their feet. They need to have the confidence that if there was a power outage they could have some sort of contact with an emergency service. We would also want to know what specific class of persons—I've just mentioned one; that's the elderly and perhaps those less mobile—have been indicated to the Minister by officials that would be considered as vulnerable people or persons under the Commission 111 contact code and did the Minister and his officials engage with the emergency services of New Zealand? Did they get some feedback and did they seek some advice? Do they know how often somebody who might be a vulnerable person would contact an emergency service so that in fact we do have a strong factual base on which these decisions can enable the Minister and the officials to obviously make recommendations as they have in this SOP 118? Did the Minister and his officials engage not just with the emergency services but also New Zealand Police or the New Zealand Minister of Police about the suggested code as proposed as well? The Police Association civil defence—there are multiple services and sectors where this information could be accessible. Certainly for the sake of those people in our community who do consider themselves vulnerable we want to ensure that we have a regulation that's not just forward-looking but also takes into account their situations that they face and live in every day of their lives. That to me would express what a caring community is. The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 118 in the name of the Hon Kris Faafoi to Part 2 be agreed to. Amendments agreed to. Part 2 as amended agreed to."