3. Question No. 3—FinanceHon AMY ADAMS (National—Selwyn) to the Minister of FinanceQuestion No. 3—Finance3. Hon AMY ADAMS (National—Selwyn) to the Minister of Finance: What evidence if any did he see or receive that led him to make the statement last night the material is a result of a systematic hack"?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister of Finance): My full statement last night was: "This is extremely serious and is now a matter for the police. We have contacted the National Party tonight to request that they do not release any further material given that Treasury said they have sufficient evidence that indicates the material is a result of a systematic hack and is now subject to a police investigation. What New Zealanders care about are the issues that will be dealt with in the Wellbeing Budget on Thursday and that is what we continue to be focused on." I based this information on advice provided to me by Treasury.Hon Amy Adams: Why did he not demand to see evidence that the information obtained by the National Party was a result of a systematic hack before making statements alleging that it was?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: The statement that I made simply repeated the advice that Treasury was given.Hon Amy Adams: On what possible basis does he think relying on the word of Treasury whose own failures provide a far more likely explanation of events was acceptable before publicly making statements alleging serious wrongdoing by the Opposition?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: All I did in the statement was repeat the words and the advice of Treasury about what they had done. Treasury made a decision to refer this matter to the police.Hon Amy Adams: Did he or anyone else in his office talk with Treasury or Secretary Gabriel Makhlouf yesterday about referring the matter to the police before that occurred and if so who initiated that conversation?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: No.Hon Amy Adams: Whose version of events does he now accept: Winston Peters who said yesterday that "every figure" released by the National Party was "categorically wrong" or the Secretary to the Treasury who's confirmed that a lot of it was accurate?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: That matter was traversed in question No. 1. As was stated in this House yesterday some information was right; some information wasn't. The real Budget will be delivered tomorrow and New Zealanders will get at that time the opportunity to see a Government that finally takes mental health seriously that addresses child wellbeing and that's transforming the economy.Rt Hon Winston Peters: Can the finance Minister advise as to whether or not he has been told by the National Party as to how they acquired this information?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: No. I haven't. And clearly that would resolve the matter once and for all wouldn't it?Hon Simon Bridges: No responsibility. He shouldn't have been able to ask that.SPEAKER: Order! Does the Leader of the Opposition think it's appropriate to apologise for that reflection?Hon Simon Bridges: No no I was just talking to my friend.SPEAKER: The problem I have is that his voice is very loud and I can hear him reflecting on me. He will stand withdraw and apologise.Hon Simon Bridges: I withdraw and apologise.Hon Amy Adams: Does he agree with reporting on The Spinoff this morning that said "If Makhlouf and/or Robertson have gone histrionic to cloak basic infosec sloppiness one or both [of them] will be in the firing line."?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: I reject multiple things within that statement. Treasury was the subject of thousands of attempts to get into their system. They referred that to the police. The police will now investigate that matter. My focus is on delivering a Budget tomorrow that will help once and for all to make sure that we take mental health seriously after a decade of neglect.Hon Amy Adams: Will he resign if the information in question is shown not to have come from a systematic hacking of the Treasury website given Newsroom has today said "Making a false allegation of criminal activity against the opposition would indeed be a resignation offence—"?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: I have done no such thing.Hon James Shaw: How many tanks are appropriated in this year's Budget?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: I can assure the member there are no tanks appropriated in the Budget. There are however four P-8A Poseidon planes which once upon a time the National Party supported but for political reasons appear to have abandoned."