Bayly AndrewANDREW BAYLY (National—Hunua): Before I start I do just want to congratulate Jacinda Ardern and Kelvin Davis on their promotions. It is a pleasure to be speaking in this Estimates debate and I want to start this discussion just talking around the announcement that occurred today which is the announcement that New Zealand's unemployment rate is 4.8 percent. The reason I make that start is that of course getting New Zealanders into good jobs paying jobs with all the pride that comes with it and with all the security that comes with it is actually essential in terms of trying to get people to buy their own home and establish their families over time. That is why it is so crucial that we have a successful economy where everyone can participate.In terms of the housing policies which I would like to talk about obviously it falls into three areas: first is emergency housing second is social housing and the third is that broad category of market housing if I can use that term. If there is any assertion that this Government is not concerned about the most vulnerable in this society then I have got to say to you that that assertion is totally incorrect. This Government this year will spend $2.3 billion helping over 310000 families in need with their social housing and housing needs. We are committed to helping people and the Budget that was just announced was very substantial in terms of some of the new initiatives. For instance already we have committed $175 million to emergency housing to be spent over the next 4 years another $155 million towards emergency and transitional housing—in total just over $300 million.Also other initiatives—and I would just like to highlight the one around Te Puea Marae which some members have referred to earlier tonight. We welcome the initiatives and the support Te Puea Marae have made and continue to make but I would just say to you that the Government has now stepped in to assist them work alongside the marae and provide wraparound services for those people who want to access housing support and all the social supports that go with it. In fact there are five relocatable houses on that marae as we speak.I just also want to draw attention to the tax matters that have come through in the Budget. We have had the Family Incomes Package and some of my colleagues have highlighted it; the changes in income threshold which mean that all New Zealanders who pay tax will benefit particularly the poorer members of our society; the increase in the Working for Families package which is quite substantial depending on the number of children—it could be anywhere between $9.60 and about $24 or $25 per child—and of course the substantial increase in the accommodation supplement which may in fact be as much as a hundred dollars per week depending on the circumstances of the family in need. It is very very substantial.One of the speakers earlier referred to the issue of P. Members may be aware that I put forward a member's bill on this very issue. The big issue around P is that we did not have clarity in terms of testing companies on what the appropriate methodology was. There was uncertainty around the actual level of contamination. Thirdly we did not know or have a mechanism to ensure that if a house had been decontaminated there was a methodology for approving or assessing that. I was slightly alarmed that some members do not seem to be up with the play and do not know what is going on so I just thought I might take the opportunity to remind some of our members that progress has been made. The main thing is that the standards committee has reported back and we have adopted a higher rate rather than 0.5—The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Order! This is not part of this sector debate. You must bring it back to the sector that we are debating. That is very wide of the debate.ANDREW BAYLY: Thank you. I will just finish off my time around the issue of how we get new people into housing how we get our first-time people into housing. As the Prime Minister noted today in question time 27000 people have already benefited from the HomeStart loan package and we intend to get 90000 people accessing new homes over time.