Falloon AndrewANDREW FALLOON (National—Rangitata): Thank you Madam Chair. Look it's a pleasure to follow the Hon Dr Nick Smith in discussing the commencement of this bill. The reason for that is that Nick Smith was part of a Government that did more than any other Government in our history to create healthy homes in our country which is of course the name of this bill and what we are debating tonight.The last Government provided subsidies to insulate 290000 private homes across New Zealand making them healthier and it insulated every State house in the country that could be insulated. All of that happened within the space of five years which is exactly the amount of time that this bill will take to be enacted in this House. That goes to show what can be achieved in five years unlike this bill.Madam Chair I seek your indulgence for a moment. I just want to read part of the explanatory note of this bill which says: Landlords already have obligations under the Residential Tenancies Act with respect to the properties they let out. However there is no guidance about the specific standards they must meet to ensure warm and dry accommodation. This Bill amends the Residential Tenancies Act to require the Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment to set minimum standards for heating and insulation in rental properties within 6 months." So my question to the Minister in the chair is: why not wait?He said himself that he is going to be reviewing the Residential Tenancies Act next year. If it is going to take 6 months for the Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment to work on regulations why not include that in that review? He could have done that over the next six months and brought a bill to this House with the detail in it. We don't know what we're debating. My question to him is: if the regulations will take six months to determine why not include them in the review next year when we know what we're voting for rather than us voting blindly for what the regulations might be?I came to this place to debate good legislation. I saw Duncan Webb in the House earlier tonight. I'm sure that's the reason he came here as well. Unfortunately this is not good law and not good policy. I'm sorry to say this is a poor way to create legislation. There is no guarantee of healthy homes in this bill and the Government have us voting blindly on what the regulations might look like. It's a Clayton's bill—it's the sort of bill you put up when you don't have a bill. This bill should be withdrawn until the Labour Government have done their homework. They haven't done that yet and that's been the case across the last few days of debate in this House. They haven't done the work. Time and time again—and I'm sure we'll see this over the next few weeks—they'll bring legislation forward—Hon Andrew Little: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. It is pretty clear that this is a debate that is clause by clause in this legislation. We are now on clause 2 which is about the commencement of the legislation. What we're hearing from the honourable member is a very wide-ranging—I wouldn't say dissection of the bill but a glossing over of it but nothing about commencement. He's used 3½ minutes of his time already and we haven't heard about commencement and that's what this debate needs to be about.Hon Dr Nick Smith: Speaking to the point of order—The CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): It's OK Dr Smith I can rule on this. Members I am allowing this member to be a little more free-form in this debate given that he is a new member to the House. But I do take your point on board and I would encourage the member to be much more specific about the commencement provisions within this clause.ANDREW FALLOON: I thank Madam Chair for her guidance and I also thank the Hon Andrew Little. He perhaps missed it: I did actually refer to the commencement of this bill. It's not coming into force for five years and in that time this party when we were in Government insulated hundreds of thousands of homes.In that time what they are talking about is talking about it. They're not talking about insulating homes; they are talking about talking about it. The Minister in the chair—I'd like him to take a call because I want to hear from him why he won't include in his review next year exactly what we're debating. We wouldn't need a bill we wouldn't need a commencement of a year or five years or 10 years if he was to bring that forward to next year and instead have the debate as part of the Residential Tenancies Act review which he has promised next year rather than creating a bill that's stand-alone pushing this through. It does nothing. It's a Clayton's bill. It's the sort of bill that you bring forward when you've got nothing better to talk about.Clayton Mitchell: Go for the hat-trick—hat-trick!ANDREW FALLOON: I thank the member opposite. I'm sure he'd like to take the credit for it but unfortunately this is a bill that the entire Government benches are responsible for and it's not a good bill. That's why we will be opposing it. Thank you."