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VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Counter-Terrorism Acts (Designations and Control Orders) Amendment Bill be now read a first time.Ayes 117New Zealand Labour 64; New Zealand National 33; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; ACT New Zealand 10.Noes 2Te Paati Māori 2.Motion agreed to.Bill read a first time.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): The question is That the Counter-Terrorism Acts (Designations and Control Orders) Amendment Bill be considered by the Justice Committee.Motion agreed to. Bill referred to the Justice Committee.
Counter-Terrorism Acts (Designations and Control Orders) Amendment Bill — First Reading
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Fair Pay Agreements Bill be now read a third time.Ayes 76New Zealand Labour 64; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.Bill read a third time.
Fair Pay Agreements Bill — Third Reading
12. Question No. 12—EducationCHRIS BAILLIE (ACT) to the Minister of EducationQuestion No. 12—Education12. CHRIS BAILLIE (ACT) to the Minister of Education: Does he agree with the statement from the Te Pūkenga organisational direction and design - analysis of feedback report that said Legislation that only allows one CE is a risk to a Tiriti-partnering model"; if so is he considering amending the Education and Training Act 2020 to allow for co-leadership as a way of honouring the Treaty?Hon JAN TINETTI (Associate Minister of Education) on behalf of the Minister of Education: No and no.Chris Baillie: Is the Minister concerned with a statement from the Tertiary Education Commission's mid-August briefing that states "the overall failure of Te Pūkenga to progress key areas of work over the past two years means it will be some time before the key benefits sought from the establishment of Te Pūkenga will be realised." and if so does the Minister believe that implementing more co-governance will help to realise these benefits sooner?Hon JAN TINETTI: On the second part to that question no.Chris Baillie: Does the Minister agree with one respondent quoted in Te Pūkenga's analysis and feedback report who said that "not having Māori at the chief executive level is an 'imbalance in mana' " and does he believe that addressing an "imbalance in mana" is more important than addressing Te Pūkenga's $110 million debt crisis?Hon JAN TINETTI: No.Chris Baillie: Which problem does the Minister believe Te Pūkenga Council should be focusing on: addressing Te Pūkenga's $110 million debt crisis or hiring more bureaucrats such as co-leadership positions for executive directors in the name of co-governance?Hon JAN TINETTI: No discussions have been had around co-leadership."
10. Question No. 10—HealthDr TRACEY McLELLAN (Labour—Banks Peninsula) to the Associate Minister of HealthQuestion No. 10—Health10. Dr TRACEY McLELLAN (Labour—Banks Peninsula) to the Associate Minister of Health: Mālō ni. What recent announcement has the Government made regarding maternal mental health?Hon Dr AYESHA VERRALL (Associate Minister of Health): Earlier this month I announced our investment of $10.1 million over four years in maternal mental health. This will result in better and more widely available care for new and expectant mothers around the country. The funding will ensure that children mothers and whānau can access specialist services around New Zealand and access to appropriate Māori services will be improved. These investments continue to build on the funding from the 2019 Wellbeing Budget which invested in front-line mental health and addiction services and other early interventions.Dr Tracey McLellan: How will this address gaps in maternal mental health care?Hon Dr AYESHA VERRALL: The funding will be invested to fill gaps in care identified by last year's maternal mental health stocktake. In particular it will target support in the regions where it is needed most. The $10.1 million will add more clinical and non-clinical staff as well as packages of care to provide more support to whānau with higher needs including home-based supports.Dr Tracey McLellan: Why is it important to invest in maternal mental health care?Hon Dr AYESHA VERRALL: Supporting parents' mental wellbeing during their child's first 1000 days is important for the long-term emotional mental and physical wellbeing of the child. Support for perinatal mental health that is accessible for all pregnant or post-natal women when they need it most is also key. It is estimated that the care packages from this investment will help support approximately 700 people per year following the fourth year of investment.Dr Tracey McLellan: How does this complement other initiatives?Hon Dr AYESHA VERRALL: This Government is committed to ensuring parents receive the support they need during pregnancy birth and in the post-natal period so as to make New Zealand the best place to be a child. This investment complements several other initiatives rolled out by the Government to support mothers in the post-natal period including the Well Child Tamariki Ora enhanced support pilots pregnancy and parenting services and recognition of maternal birth injuries by ACC.
8. Question No. 8—JusticeGINNY ANDERSEN (Labour—Hutt South) to the Minister of JusticeQuestion No. 8—Justice8. GINNY ANDERSEN (Labour—Hutt South) to the Minister of Justice: Mālō ni Mr Speaker. What changes is the Government making to counter-terrorism laws?Hon KIRITAPU ALLAN (Minister of Justice): Last week I announced that the Government will be strengthening our counter-terrorism laws through changes to the control orders and terrorist designations regime. These changes will improve the effectiveness of the law and make it harder for people who are known threats to undertake terrorist activities. I'd like to thank as well just all parties for their constructive engagement on the Counter-Terrorism Acts (Designations and Control Orders) Amendment Bill and I look forward to members' contributions at first reading this afternoon.Ginny Andersen: What amendments are being made to the terrorist designation scheme?Hon KIRITAPU ALLAN: The bill strengthens the terrorist designation scheme by making it explicit that it covers individuals in prisons. Overseas we have seen examples of how in prison terrorists continue to attempt to influence and incite others from behind bars. The bill makes a series of technical changes to further reduce any ability for designated entities to be glorified or to support others in carrying out acts of terrorism.Ginny Andersen: What amendments are being made to the control orders regime?Hon KIRITAPU ALLAN: The bill makes changes related to convictions for objectionable publications home detention and community-based sentences greater judicial discretion and more flexible name suppression requirements. In addition these amendments will improve the effectiveness of the control orders Act and expand the criteria for high-risk individuals who can be covered by the restrictions which limit their ability to undertake an attack.Ginny Andersen: Will the Government consider further changes to the control orders regime?Hon KIRITAPU ALLAN: The control orders regime is subject to a statutory review scheduled for 2023. This is timely given that this is a technical and emerging area of law in New Zealand. Further changes can be considered during that review period to ensure the regime is working effectively.
7. Question No. 7—ChildrenDEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader—Te Paati Māori) to the Minister for ChildrenQuestion No. 7—Children7. DEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader—Te Paati Māori) to the Minister for Children: What reports if any has he received regarding the death of Malachi Subecz in State care and what specific actions if any has he taken in response to those reports?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Children): I'm yet to receive the practice review from Oranga Tamariki as I'm waiting for this report to be finalised and to ensure that Oranga Tamariki has been able to engage with the whānau at their pace before any findings are shared. I'm determined to understand where Oranga Tamariki could have and should have done better and to make sure it doesn't happen again. That's why I asked for these reviews to be done. It's important to remember that Malachi was not in the care of Oranga Tamariki. Reports of concern were made to Oranga Tamariki regarding his safety and Oranga Tamariki recognise their failures to act appropriately on these.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Has the Minister seen or received the draft system review report and when he does when will it be made public?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: In answer to the first part of the question no.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Does the Minister accept the need to overhaul the reports of concern process given there was a failure to investigate multiple reports of concerns regarding Malachi at various levels of Government?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: I expect that'll be addressed in the practice review report.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Can the Minister confirm that Malachi's whānau contacted his office to report to him the abuse that he was suffering?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: I understand that someone in my office was contacted on 3 November 2021 by a member of Malachi's whānau. Concerns were raised that day with Oranga Tamariki.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Who in the Government is responsible when children in State care or trying to get State care die?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Well that depends. First of all the person who actually killed the child is the person responsible but we have to make sure that we look under every stone to find out where the system may have gone wrong which is why we've also asked for a system review as well as the practice review.
6. Question No. 6—TourismRACHEL BOYACK (Labour—Nelson) to the Minister of TourismQuestion No. 6—Tourism6. RACHEL BOYACK (Labour—Nelson) to the Minister of Tourism: What reports has he seen on New Zealand's tourism recovery?Hon STUART NASH (Minister of Tourism): I'm pleased to report that New Zealand is set for a strong summer as the tourism sector continues to recover. It is encouraging that August 2022 was the first month in nearly 2½ years where a holiday has been the most popular reason for travel by overseas visitors replacing visiting friends and relatives which has dominated the reason for travel from April 2020. The August numbers show that demand for New Zealand is still there from international tourists.Rachel Boyack: What is contributing to New Zealand's tourism recovery?Hon STUART NASH: Well the cruise summer season's already under way with over 40 cruise vessels expected over the 2022-23 season bringing an estimated 150000 to 200000 visitors to our shores. Our Great Walks which opened on Monday have seen close to 20 percent of bookings made by international visitors bringing yet more visitors to our regions to see our stunning natural beauty and experience local Kiwi hospitality.Rachel Boyack: What economic benefits will cruise passengers bring?Hon STUART NASH: It's projected that between $350 million and $510 million will be spent over the 2022-23 summer period by cruise passengers. Regional ports too will benefit. Timaru for example will be seeing 12 cruise ships over the next year—Hon Andrew Little: Timaru?Hon STUART NASH: —Timaru yes—and Stewart Island will see 20.Rachel Boyack: What major events will help bring tourists into New Zealand?Hon STUART NASH: Major events are returning to New Zealand at pace. For example the FIFA Women's World Cup tournament alone is projected to bring tens of thousands of visitors to our shores especially now we know we'll be hosting reigning world champs the United States. There are some huge events hitting regional New Zealand this year. For example Rotorua will host SIX60 the Whaka100 Mountain Bike Marathon and Crankworx all before the end of the year. These visitors will inject much-welcomed money into the sector through accommodation transport food and meals not to mention visits to our beautiful tourist attractions.Rachel Boyack: What support has the Government provided to the tourism sector throughout the pandemic?Hon STUART NASH: I've always acknowledged the tough times that the tourism sector has had over the past few years. The Government has invested more than $600 million to help the industry through COVID and help them set up for the return of international tourists. New Zealand's borders are open international bookings are flowing in and we're set for a cracker summer.
4. Question No. 4—EnvironmentLEMAUGA LYDIA SOSENE (Labour) to the Minister for the EnvironmentQuestion No. 4—Environment4. LEMAUGA LYDIA SOSENE (Labour) to the Minister for the Environment: Mālō ni. What actions is the Government taking to reduce resource consenting costs for infrastructure?Hon DAVID PARKER (Minister for the Environment): Thank you Mr Speaker. The current resource management system takes too long costs too much and has not adequately enabled housing nor infrastructure nor managed cumulative environmental effects. An Infrastructure Commission report on consenting infrastructure projects found consenting costs for medium sized infrastructure projects have increased 150 percent in the last 10 years to 250 percent of what they were a decade ago. Developers are collectively spending $1.29 billion on resource consent processes or 5.5 percent of project costs—benchmarked against costs in the UK and the European Union which range from 0.1 to 5 percent of project cost. You can see we're at the extreme end. Times also increased by 150 percent. This is why we are repealing and replacing the Resource Management Act (RMA) which will improve efficiency and lower consenting costs and improve environmental outcomes.Lemauga Lydia Sosene: How will the replacement for the RMA reduce infrastructure consenting costs?Hon DAVID PARKER: There will be major cost savings which will benefit not just the infrastructure providers but the public and private funders of the projects. Improvements will reduce the number and costs of consents. Designations for infrastructure will be simplified with less relitigation and designations lasting longer. The designations process will be more flexible and available to a wider group of providers.Lemauga Lydia Sosene: What work is the Infrastructure Commission doing to assist the Government?Hon DAVID PARKER: A new chapter in the national planning framework to enable infrastructure is being developed by the Infrastructure Commission. It will enable standards to be used for activities associated with the likes of housing and infrastructure—for example earthworks or sediment or noise control. This will avoid the need for bespoke conditions and will also enable more activities to be permitted activities.Lemauga Lydia Sosene: How will the replacement for the RMA improve district plans and reduce costs?Hon DAVID PARKER: RMA planning documents will be consolidated from over 100 to 15 Natural and Built Environments Act plans. Plans will be fast to prepare reducing in time from about 10 years under the current system to a maximum of four in the new system. Plan quality will be improved by adopting the independent hearings panel approach which was initiated by Rodney Hide when he was here. More activities will be permitted with fewer notified consents needed and the new Act will require councils to publicly report on their performance.Hon Scott Simpson: Sounds exciting.Hon DAVID PARKER: It is.
2. Question No. 2—Education (Māori Education)TĀMATI COFFEY (Labour) to the Associate Minister of Education (Māori Education)Question No. 2—Education (Māori Education)2. TĀMATI COFFEY (Labour) to the Associate Minister of Education (Māori Education): What recent developments has he seen that support Māori students in sciences and technology?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Associate Minister of Education (Māori Education)): Last week I attended the expansion of the Pūhoro Science Technology Engineering Mathematics and Mātauranga (STEMM) academy in Te Tai Tokerau. Pūhoro was established in response to low engagement of Māori in STEMM-related career pathways. It supports rangatahi Māori with a pathway into high-value careers with a transition from secondary school to tertiary programmes including connections to internships industry opportunities and employment.Tāmati Coffey: Why are programmes like Pūhoro STEMM important?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: The current under-representation of our people in the sciences despite the skills of our tūpuna in these areas attests to this; that needs to change. Pūhoro STEMM is a kaupapa Māori approach that seeks to improve equitable access for rangatahi Māori into science- and technology-related pathways. We are seeing great results with almost two-in-five Pūhoro students gaining one or more science subject qualifications in 2021. This is nearly four times the science subject achievement rate for Māori in mainstream education.Tāmati Coffey: How many students are supported by this programme?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: The last two years have seen significant growth for the Puhoro STEMM Academy having engaged 1503 rangatahi in 54 participating schools and kura across nine regions to date. The expansion into Te Tai Tokerau becomes the 10th region Pūhoro supports.Tāmati Coffey: Has the programme received any national or international recognition?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Yes it has. Pūhoro STEMM Academy has been nationally and internationally recognised for the work it does with rangatahi Māori. On a national level it was the winner of two awards at the Diversity Awards in 2022. At an international level Pūhoro STEMM Academy is one of three finalists in the global Engineering & Technology Innovation Awards 2022 to be held in November in London. This award recognises organisations who harness a truly diverse workforce or inclusive ethos recognising the significant efforts of organisations globally that excel in their commitment to equality and inclusion across the diversity spectrum.
Salesa JennyASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): The House stands adjourned until 2 p.m. tomorrow. Pō mārie.The House adjourned at 10.01 p.m.
Lorck AnnaANNA LORCK (Labour—Tukituki): On behalf of the Labour Government I have the pleasure of commending this bill the United Kingdom Free Trade Agreement Legislation Bill to the House.
Boyack RachelRACHEL BOYACK (Labour—Nelson): Thank you Madam Speaker. I was going to get up and defend my colleague across the House Nicola Grigg about our shared love of New Zealand wine. And having just travelled around the globe with Ms Grigg what I can say—and I'm not going to say this about the UK but New Zealand wine is definitely the best. This trade agreement delivers very well for our viticulture industry.I just want to make a couple of quick points about a couple of matters in the bill that I think are worth noting in particular. The first is that there has been a specific section in the bill around the importance of indigenous Māori rights in terms of trade. That is a first and I just want to note that significant work was done by officials in order to get that into the agreement. It was noted quite heavily in the first reading of this bill but I wanted to make sure that was put on record tonight.The second is for my electorate of Nelson there are some big wins for fish and seafood. I just want to note that over the next seven years we will eventually get to a complete removal of tariffs on fish and seafood for that industry in Nelson and that is very very good for our region. You know I just note that our seafood industry is critical to our particular region.This is an excellent agreement; it's an excellent bill. I want to acknowledge the Minister officials who worked on it and yourself and your select committee Madam Chair. And I commend it to the House.
Henderson EmilyDr EMILY HENDERSON (Labour—Whangārei): Kia ora te Māngai o te Whare. I rise very briefly to say what a superb bill and what a wonderful deal we on this side of the House have concluded. I almost feel sorry for the poor old Opposition who are standing there saying We had a hand we had a hand." when they look at our record of bringing home these big important deals that are going to protect us. It must feel a little bit sad to them but I'm glad to hear that they found that there's some part of the puzzle that they had a stake in too. But the wonderful winners in this and the real stake in it are New Zealand and New Zealand businesses. I'm delighted. I commend it to the House."
McLellan Tracey; Salesa JennyDr TRACEY McLELLAN (Labour—Banks Peninsula): Thank you Madam Speaker. It's been a good day: first fair pay and now free trade. I'd like to start by very sincerely commending and acknowledging the Minister the Hon Damien O'Connor and all of the officials as has been mentioned tonight many of whom have worked hard and comprehensively and applied their incredible skills over a period of time to bring this home. Also I'd like to acknowledge the diligent work of the Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade Committee who no doubt very diligently examined this bill and as a result the committee made only a limited number of recommendations—mainly relating to Part 5 of the bill with respect to the apple transitional export quota.There were several submissions and I think two that stood out in particular were from the Dairy Companies Association of New Zealand and Fonterra. Just to very briefly summarise: the former said that the free-trade agreement (FTA) demonstrates [the highest] level of ambition in agricultural trade liberalisation for a developed OECD economy since the implementation of the New Zealand Australia Closer Economic partnership" which is high praise. And Fonterra noted that this FTA "provides a critical and welcome level of certainty for a two-way dairy trade between New Zealand and the UK."But amongst the many admirable chapters that are included in this agreement—in a first for New Zealand alongside the climate change chapter—there is one on animal welfare and the FTA includes the chapter that recognises what is a high priority that we afford animal welfare in our farming practice and that's something that we obviously share with the UK. The chapter also sets out how both countries now will work together as they have done but to do so more comprehensively and cooperatively including in those international standard-setting bodies that we both belong to to continue to promote animal welfare practices.This is a gold-standard FTA; it's one of the best FTAs that New Zealand has ever had negotiated. The reduction of tariffs and the increase in market access is estimated to grow our exports to the UK by over 50 percent; so that's certainly nothing to sniff at. We're very pleased on this side of the House that this Government has brought it home and got it over the line successfully and with no further ado I'm happy to commend it to the House and get on with it. Thank you.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): The next call is a split call. I call on Nicola Grigg for five minutes."
Luxton Jo; Salesa JennyJO LUXTON (Labour—Rangitata): Thank you very much Madam Speaker. That was a surprise.New Zealand is a nation of trade and export and this free-trade agreement with the UK is huge for our country. It's huge for our exporters and predominately a lot of those are our primary producing exporters. What we're going to see with this free-trade agreement is most tariffs are going to be eliminated off our exports into the UK. I did note that with one of those in particular—and Ms Grigg might be interested in this one given her comment around wine today—there'll be $14 million worth of tariffs removed immediately for our wine exporters. So I think that's just one example of the benefits that we will see from this UK free-trade agreement.What this piece of legislation does is it implements—it's necessary for us to be able to implement and to ratify our free-trade agreement with the UK. One of the things that I noted around this with reducing the tariffs is that it's going to boost our GDP by between $700 million and $1 billion for New Zealand and I think that's fantastic. As I said a lot of that is around for our primary producers. And I think this is a really big thing for our primary producers here in New Zealand because after all it is our primary producers and our exporters that pretty much kept us going throughout the COVID pandemic. So anything that helps reduce barriers to trading for them with the UK is a good thing in my view.I do note that the products such as dairy beef and sheep—where the tariffs are going to be phased in over time—whilst they may not have quite what they wanted those tariffs are going to be phased in over time and I think that that's a good thing; whilst they might not get it straight away that it will come into play.This is an important bill in order to ensure that we can implement and ratify the UK free-trade agreement. I think we should get on with it and I commend this bill to the House.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): I call on Golriz Ghahraman.Hon Member: Oh here we go!
Leary Ingrid; Salesa JennyINGRID LEARY (Labour—Taieri): Thank you Madam Speaker. Unlike the previous member the Hon Todd McClay I'm going to speak about the New Zealand - United Kingdom free-trade agreement (FTA) not the EU one. And I know he wanted to speak about the EU one because he knew that the UK one is actually of a gold standard and there's not much to criticise about it. The EU one it's a little bit like comparing apples and pears and I have to say everybody in this House knows that the EU is particularly stringent in its negotiations around climate change and I would like to see the Opposition try to get a better EU deal over the line than what we are achieving currently.I would also remind the previous speaker that National concluded only four FTAs in their nine years in office and when it comes to economic management FTAs are about what we can export. We are an exporting nation and they're critical. Labour gets FTAs over the line. We've got the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership the Pacific Agreement on Closer Economic Relations the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership the upgraded China and Singapore FTAs and we've got them over the line because for us these are about relationships. We understand relationships because they are about people they're about trade and they're about defence; it is not just transactional stuff. And what was able to be achieved with this was a gold-standard FTA with the UK for all the reasons stated by the Minister. The UK is the fifth-biggest exporter. We have exports to them worth $1.7 billion per year and we have achieved incredibly good market access and that is thanks to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) the iwi team within MFAT iwis outside of MFAT who I spoke to the former High Commissioner Laura Clarke—who did an excellent job in addressing the issue of colonisation and being able to mend some bridges there—and her team. And it was a real win-win-win result.Friendships these days are important. When countries do trade with each other they get to understand the value base the supply chains the way of doing business and that's incredibly important during these tricky times. I'm reminded of that today on the national day of celebration of Hungary's 1956 freedom fight which went on for 13 days. And in that time Hungary was crushed by Russia. We're seeing similar things happen with the Ukraine and so our friends are more important than ever. So a shout-out to our Hungarian New Zealanders who came over as refugees after that time and also to our Ukraine population. And just appreciating that we have got very good friends in the UK and in the EU and I commend this bill to the House.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): I call on Simon O'Connor.Chris Penk: Oh this'll be better!
Verrall Ayesha; Dean JacquiCOVID-19 ORDERSApprovalHon Dr AYESHA VERRALL (Minister for COVID-19 Response): I move That this House approve the following orders made under the COVID-19 Public Health Response Act 2020: COVID-19 Public Health Response (Revocations) Order 2022 (SL 2022/254) COVID-19 Public Health Response (Masks) Order 2022 (SL 2022/255) and COVID-19 Public Health Response (Self-isolation Requirements) Amendment Order 2022 (SL (SL 2022/257).I'm asking the House to approve COVID-19 orders to ensure that they are not revoked within a certain time frame. Today's motion approves four orders. I'd like to again reiterate that I am grateful to the members of the Regulations Review Committee for their comments and observations which continue to influence and improve how orders are drafted. I want to thank them for their continued work examining these orders. I'll now outline what those orders contain. One of the orders today makes amendments to the COVID-19 Public Health Response (Masks) Order 2022. It revokes the COVID-19 Public Health Response (Protection Framework) Order 2021 and removes all requirements in the order except the requirement for certain people to wear a mask in healthcare settings. The COVID-19 Public Health Response (Revocations) Order 2022 revokes various orders removing certain restrictions including isolation and quarantine restrictions for people in managed isolation and quarantine facilities; requirements for people arriving in New Zealand by sea; specific testing requirements for arrivals at the border; and requirements that certain types of work be carried out only by workers who are vaccinated. We have also amended the COVID-19 Public Health Response (Air Border) Order 2021 and removed most of the restrictions that applied to people arriving in New Zealand by air. Incoming travellers are no longer required to wear a face mask while on board their flight or be vaccinated before arriving in New Zealand. Lastly the COVID-19 Public Health Response (Self-isolation Requirements) Amendment Order removes the requirement for household contacts of COVID-19 cases to self-isolate.We have been clear that the measures used to contain the spread of COVID-19 need to be proportionate to the risk of the virus. Some of the tools that were justified now need to be removed. Our response continues to evolve and we will be significantly narrowing the COVID-19 Public Health Response Act 2020 removing the most restrictive powers from the Act that are no longer required for the response while ensuring we can practically manage the ongoing impact of COVID- 19.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): The question is that the motion be agreed to.
Allan KiritapuInstruction to Justice CommitteeHon KIRITAPU ALLAN (Minister of Justice): I move That the Counter-Terrorism Acts (Designations and Control Orders) Amendment Bill be reported to the House by 13 March 2023.Motion agreed to.
Belich CamillaCAMILLA BELICH (Labour): Thank you Madam Speaker. I rise to take a call on this bill the Counter-Terrorism Acts (Designations and Control Orders) Amendment Bill. I won't say it's a pleasure to take a call on it because these are serious matters and I think we'd all wish to live in a world where these types of laws were not necessary but as we know and as other speakers have traversed that is not the reality of the situation in the world at the moment or indeed in New Zealand. I want to acknowledge the Minister of Justice for bringing this bill to the House and for recognising the need for the changes to our laws. These as I said are serious matters but they have been addressed seriously and responsibly I think in the legislation that has just been drafted. I also want to acknowledge members around the House for their constructive comments and praise of the Minister's approach in this bill. I think it shows New Zealand that we take the responsibility of their safety—which is paramount—extremely seriously as we should in this House. So I want to commend members of the House for that. I also want to just acknowledge the fact that this is dealing with quite unusual and serious matters but I do think the Justice Committee with their four-month—I think—period of time which they're considering it will do justice to considering the various elements of the bill and no doubt discuss all the different elements to ensure that when the bill comes back to the House it's in the best possible shape it can be.I also want to take a moment to acknowledge those who have been affected personally by the attacks in New Zealand on 15 March especially our Muslim community and also those survivors of the LynnMall attack. I'm sure the thoughts of the whole House are with those victims the survivors and their families as well.In relation to some of the comments that my colleague Chris Penk on the other side of the House was mentioning in relation to the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act compliance I think this is a particular area that I'm sure the select committee will look into. I also had a brief look at that report prior to speaking today and saw the conclusion that it wasn't inconsistent with the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act but also share the view that obviously there is a trespasser on rights at a prima facie level probably in this in this bill. But probably working through that logic it's likely that that would be justified within the scheme of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act which as we know does allow justified limitations on various freedoms at times. And I think that that is illustrated perfectly in this bill.These are tough issues but I think that they've been addressed very well by the piece of this legislation. I won't go through all the changes that have been made to the designated terrorist entities or the strengthening control orders as these have been traversed at length. But I do thank those who have worked on this bill and I commend it to the House.
Williams ArenaARENA WILLIAMS (Labour—Manurewa): Tēnā koe Madam Speaker. Mālō ni. I've taken the opportunity tonight to listen to the contributions of my colleagues around the House on what I am pleased to say is a relatively bipartisan issue. It's one that I'm pleased is coming to the Justice Committee on which I sit and I have faith that that committee will consider this bill and these issues very carefully having done so with a number of other counter-terrorism initiatives that the Government has brought into effect in the time that I have sat on the committee. I know that people around the Justice Committee will also join with me in thanking Minister Kiri Allan for introducing a bill which at its first reading we agree strikes a good balance between what my colleague Duncan Webb referred to as a delicate balance between the importance of protecting and giving safety to our communities and upholding the rights of the individuals we're talking about tonight. I agree with Simon O'Connor's point on the importance of finding bipartisan agreement and the committees being a good place to do that on these issues and it will be good to have discussions both with submitters and with our advisers particularly on the control orders part of this bill. I think it's been useful for the committee to have considered regimes that are similar to this and one issue that I will be carefully thinking about—and I would encourage submitters to help us to understand—is the effect of these control orders and international examples where control orders have been upheld and challenged in the courts. That will be an important thing for the committee to consider and to get right in this legislation. While we see other jurisdictions around the world having had control order regimes which essentially the courts have found to go too far we need to take heed of those examples and make sure that these are lasting enduring pieces of legislation which work for our people and have the intended effect. The second point that I think will be important for the committee to consider—and it is one that I will be thinking about—is one that the Minister alluded to in her speech around how terrorism is being influenced increasingly by online extremism and how we are taking action here to make sure that someone who is imprisoned is not able to be the focal point of online extremism but also more generally how we can build bipartisan and cross-partisan support for more action on online extremism and the pipeline to real-life extremism. This is just a short call from me but I want to say thank you to the members who have given contributions tonight. It has been very good listening to all of your thoughts and I look forward to debating this with you in committee.
Webb DuncanDr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour—Christchurch Central): Kia ora Madam Speaker. Thank you for the opportunity to speak on this bill the Counter-Terrorism Acts (Designations and Control Orders) Amendment Bill. I am surprised the Māori Party doesn't choose to take this call which is usually theirs on this important legislation.I do want just to recognise the work that the Minister the Hon Kiritapu Allan has done and the select committee will do in respect of this bill and just recognise the very delicate balance between the rights of freedom of expression freedom of movement freedom of religion and a whole lot of other freedoms that are deeply embedded in this society and held dear and the fact that this legislation constrains and restricts those freedoms. It does so and Mr Goldsmith talked about the philosophical differences around punishment in our respective parties but I do want to focus on the fact that this legislation has nothing to do with punishment at all. It's entirely protective. It may be triggered in some instances by individuals' wrongdoing and we've heard about control orders being triggered by non-custodial sentences but the fact of the matter is that these steps these constraints on the freedoms of people are because they are a real risk to the community.It behoves the select committee to look very carefully at this but we absolutely need to be constantly maintaining this legislation because the world does change and is changing and the kind of reach that people can have has changed over time. So things like designation and the ability to essentially suppress the communications of people their freedom of speech is really important because what we have seen is that terrorism and extremist views go hand in hand. For that reason these orders are very important and we absolutely don't want to create a situation where someone who might be in prison can still become the focal point of extremist views. This is good legislation. It's very heartening to see that it's got widespread support and I'm really looking forward to the work that the select committee will do to build on this fantastic work of the Minister. Kia ora Madam Speaker.
Prime Willow-Jean; Dean JacquiWILLOW-JEAN PRIME (Labour—Northland): Thank you Madam Speaker for the opportunity to take a brief call on the Counter-Terrorism Acts (Designations and Control Orders) Amendment Bill. I just want to start by acknowledging the Minister of Justice who introduced the bill to the House this evening and her contribution. But I also want to acknowledge all parties. We've now heard a contribution from all of the parties in the House and it would appear that there is unanimous support for this bill to pass its first reading and go to select committee. I'm sitting here amongst colleagues who are on the Justice Committee and I think that that is a great start for us in terms of this piece of legislation. The Hon Mark Mitchell sitting across there Nicole McKee as well—we will be sitting on the Justice Committee welcoming submissions. And I acknowledge the contribution from the Green Party in particular hoping that those experts in this area will hopefully present—possibly also those who have had direct experiences; we may also have the privilege of hearing them submit too and I think that that will really strengthen the process in the proposed legislation that we've got here. So I look forward to working constructively and I hope that we are able to work through that together and report back in the short time frame that we've got—just four months as I understand it.I also want to acknowledge as well that we have MPs in the room who were in those electorates where those terrorist attacks occurred. We have Deborah Russell the member for New Lynn. That attack happened at LynnMall. But in the House we also have those MPs from Christchurch who I think more than others in the House have had that direct experience contact with victims and so will be welcoming this proposed legislation.It comes as a result of the recommendation from the royal commission that we review our legislation that we identify whether it is fit for purpose or not. And tonight we have two proposed amendments to two pieces of legislation which I think as a result of the two most recent events that we've had—we've identified our legislation isn't in fact fit for purpose that there are gaps in it and that there is more that we could do to strengthen that legislation to protect New Zealanders to protect our communities and to protect the public.I won't go into the detail of what has been proposed because I think I'm speaker number six or seven. It has been well traversed by those who have spoken before me. But I do just want to acknowledge those members that are in the House tonight who have been supporting and working through these issues in their communities. I hope that this legislation does go some way to ensuring that it is more fit for purpose and that it will provide better protection for our communities. I look forward to the submission process and working on it as a select committee. I commend the bill to the House. ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): Simon O'Connor—five minutes.
Henderson EmilyDr EMILY HENDERSON (Labour—Whangārei): I first want to acknowledge our Minister the Hon Kiritapu Allan. Congratulating a Minister on the task of bringing such a sensitive and difficult bill to the House is probably not to recognise the seriousness with which we take this particular piece of legislation. And I want to acknowledge the Opposition; it has been a contentious day today—we think a wonderful day—it is good to know that we will have your constructive support as we go through the issues that will arise as we discuss this bill in the Justice Committee of which I am a member.This bill as previous speakers have said is a response to the evolving nature of terrorism. I remember as I'm sure all other members of the House do finding out about the bombing of the two towers; I was sitting with my 8-month-old on my knee. I remember where I was when the Christchurch mosque attacks were broadcast over the radio; I was driving that same child—now a late-teenager—home from school. Terrorism has changed; our response also must change.So whereas when we passed the Terrorism Suppression Act we envisaged organised groups as the threat and so our response was to control the flow of money and material support to them. Now what we have is these isolated individual offenders and the tools we need to keep our people safe from such isolated offenders are different.So this bill does two things—well two broad things. First it amends the Terrorism Suppression Act 2002 and it clarifies that where that designated terrorist entity is in fact a person who is in prison that person will not be able to try to raise the designation from themselves whilst they are in prison. In effect the impact of the bill will be to suspend the ability to revoke the designation until that person leaves prison. And that is really important because the designation enables us to keep the control orders on which prevent them getting the publicity that unfortunately these people often crave.The other part of the Act is to amend the regime for imposing control orders—again Terrorism Suppression Act—but this time it will extend the ability to put control orders where you have people as we have unfortunately had who have committed offences in the past but not sufficiently serious ones to tip us over into the ability to put control orders on them. So we would now be able to put a control order on a person who was convicted of a range of other offences including offences promoting extreme violence and we would also be able to keep control orders on someone who had only a sentence of home detention or community detention.I look forward to discussing these matters with the Justice Committee. I look forward to hearing from the many thoughtful submissions I am sure we will have. And I commend this bill in its first reading to the House.Golriz Ghahraman: Madam Speaker.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): You've made me lose your name now which is a terrible thing.Hon Members: Golriz Ghahraman.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): Oh Golriz I'm sorry. I apologise Golriz I know you perfectly well.
SpeechWaiataHon JENNY SALESA: It is time for the dinner break. We shall see you here at 7 p.m.Sitting suspended from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m.
Rurawhe AdrianPETITIONS PAPERS SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLSSPEAKER: Mālō ni. A petition has been delivered to the Clerk for presentation.CLERK: Petition of Robyn Parnell requesting that the House pass legislation to prohibit the importation of kangaroo meat body parts and skins.SPEAKER: That petition stands referred to the Petitions Committee. Ministers have delivered papers.CLERK: Reports on selected non-departmental appropriations for the year ended 30 June 2022 for the following portfolios within Vote Business Science and Innovation: TourismCommerce and Consumer AffairsDigital Economy and CommunicationsSport and RecreationEconomic and Regional DevelopmentEconomic DevelopmentNew Zealand Growth Capital Partners Statement of Performance Expectations 2022/23.SPEAKER: Those papers are published under the authority of the House. Select committee reports have been delivered for presentation. CLERK: Report of the Business Committee on the recommended sitting programme for 2023 report of the Petitions Committee on the Petition of Social Credit: Stop the Marsden Point Oil Refinery from closing.SPEAKER: The report of the Business Committee is set down for consideration. The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of bills. CLERK: Business Payment Practices Bill introductionCustoms and Excise (Arrival Information) Amendment Bill introduction.SPEAKER: Those bills are set down for first reading.
Rurawhe Adrian; Edmonds BarbaraWEDNESDAY 26 OCTOBER 2022The Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.KARAKIA/PRAYERSSPEAKER: In celebration of Tokelau Language Week I've asked Barbara Edmonds to say the prayer today in Tokelauan.BARBARA EDMONDS (Labour—Mana): Te Atua Hilihili kehe e kavatu te matou fakafetai mo na fakamanuiaga kua maua e kimatou. E tuku kehe o matou manakoga fakatetagata kae kimatou manatuagia te Tupu ma e tatalo atu kimatou mo to fehoahoani mai ki a matou tonu e fai ke fai ma te fakautauta te atamai te mea moni loto alofa ma te lotomaualalo ke maua te lelei ma te filemu o te fenua nei ko Niu Hila. Amene.
Tuesday 25 October 2022 - Volume 763
Fair Pay Agreements Bill — In Committee—Part 10
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 74New Zealand Labour 64; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jacqui Dean): The question is that the Minister's amendments to Part 10 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 264 be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 74New Zealand Labour 64; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Amendments agreed to.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jacqui Dean): Chris Baillie's amendment to clause 213 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 270 is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision of the committee. A party vote was called for on the question That Part 10 as amended be agreed to.Ayes 74New Zealand Labour 64; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Part 10 as amended agreed to.
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 76New Zealand Labour 64; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10 Te Paati Māori 2.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Part 9 be agreed to.Ayes 76New Zealand Labour 64; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Part 9 agreed to.
Fair Pay Agreements Bill — In Committee—Part 9