Jackson Willie; Tolley AnneHon WILLIE JACKSON (Associate Minister for Māori Development): Kia ora e Te Māngai. E tika ana ki te tautoko te kōrero o te tuahine ngā mihi ki a koutou te Rōpū Kākāriki. Me hoki e tika ki te tautoko te kōrero a Shane Jones i tēnei rā. Nō reira ko tēnei te mihi ki a koutou ngā uri o Te Wairoa he nui te mamae me te pōuri nā te ringa kaha o te Karauna e pā mai ana ki a koutou i ngā tau kua hipa atu nei. Kei konei koutou ki te rongo atu i ngā waha kōrero o Te Whare Pāremata ki te whakarite tū tautoko hoki te whakatau i te nawe me te mamae e pīkautia e koutou. Nō reira tēnā koutou.[Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker. I want to support what my colleague has just said and thank the Green Party. It is also appropriate that I endorse Shane Jones' comments today. I acknowledge the people of Te Wairoa who have experienced great pain and sorrow due to the heavy handedness of the Crown over the years. You have come here to listen to the speakers of Parliament deliberate support and settle the grievance and pain that you have carried. So I greet you all.]I am not sure if I can add a lot. I think some of the kōrero today from both sides has been terrific particularly contributions from the Hon Shane Jones and the Hon Meka Whaitiri in giving the outline the background and the history—and the previous kōrero too from our Green colleague there. It's excellent to hear that type of kōrero from Pākehā members so ngā mihi ki a koe e te tuahine [thank you sister].In terms of the mihi to the former Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations the Hon Chris Finlayson from the Hon Shane Jones it was excellent. Thank goodness the Hon Winston Peters wasn't in the room when that mihi was given given the scandalous type of kōrero that's been put out there from the former Minister about our Deputy Prime Minister. But it is true to compliment the former Minister for what he did in Tūhoe because getting our people to agree on anything in these areas is particularly tough. I know that we've had a number of people particularly from Ngāti Ruapani who are very very upset with that settlement but what do you do? The Treaty settlement process in many ways is flawed. It's a flawed process that we've all bought into. In fact former top businessman Hugh Fletcher said some years ago that to negotiate a deal for less than 1.5 percent is a deal that he would never enter into.So it should be noted the generosity of Māori with regard to these types of settlements. It's a generosity that New Zealanders many times ignore. You had Ngāi Tahu—as my colleague and whanaunga here Rino Tirikatene knows—settle for $160 million. Tainui settled for $160 million. If you looked at the economic cases around Tainui and Ngāi Tahu the economists valued those settlements at $20 billion—$20 billion. And our people are settling these deals at $160 million? So the gratitude from the nation to Māori in my view has been minimal—minimal—through the years given the substantial contribution and sacrifice that our people have made. But our people have no choice. Our people have no choice. You settle or you get nothing. You talk or you go to the back of the queue like Whakatōhea did some years ago.So it's an unforgiving process and I'm not here to condemn any side. We're all part of this process and if there was a better process we'd get into it. But I just need to commend our people for what they do: for getting down to Wellington and for going through a process where an apology is everything to a people. An apology honours those who have gone and honours those who've contributed. So many of our people don't see the benefits from these settlements but we're getting there—we're getting there. So I say well done—well done to people who've contributed to this on both sides: the former Māori Affairs Committee chair the current select committee chair the former Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiation and the current Minister. I know particularly when we go through the select committee process the Māori Affairs Committee does stand out in terms of the collegial work on both sides and the kotahitanga that is worked through from both sides. So I just want to commend everyone in terms of the contribution made and the support made. Well done to the negotiators. E tika kia mihi ki a tātau i tēnei wā ā tēnā tātau katoa.[It is appropriate to acknowledge everyone today.]Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER: Rino Tirikatene—this is a five-minute call.