Russell DeborahDr DEBORAH RUSSELL (Labour—New Lynn): As we've been sort of starting to talk about this bill I've been reflecting—I mean obviously on the food to which this bill is supposed to apply but also reflecting on the different sites at which food is sold actually in my own electorate of New Lynn. In particular I've thought of three different types of sites. I mean there are obviously the supermarkets. There are—ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): I apologise to the member. I'm sorry. It's time for me to leave the Chair for the dinner break.Sitting suspended from 6 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): Members the committee has resumed. Prior to the dinner break we were debating the Consumers' Right to Know (Country of Origin of Food) Bill and Dr Deborah Russell had the call and has four minutes and 33 seconds remaining should she wish to take it.Dr DEBORAH RUSSELL: Thank you Madam Chair. I wish to take every second available to me. Before the dinner break I was reflecting on the different places in my electorate of New Lynn where you could buy food where people could buy food.Angie Warren-Clark: You were hungry?Dr DEBORAH RUSSELL: Yeah there's the obvious—perhaps I was hungry. The obvious places are the supermarkets. There are several fine supermarkets in the electorate. But then I was thinking about the Titirangi markets—the Sunday markets that run on Titirangi once a month—and the Avondale markets which run every Sunday. Now the Titirangi markets really don't have fruit and vege there but they do have cheese locally produced cheese. It's a craft market and a farmers market. As is the usual thing with the farmers market rules or craft market rules in this particular market the person who is selling the product must be the person who has actually made it in the first place. So there's not too much of a worry about where the food that's sold at the Titirangi market comes from; it's fairly clearly made in New Zealand.But the Avondale markets are a different matter. They are run at the racecourse on Sundays and they are huge—possibly not as huge as some of the markets out in South Auckland but they are huge. There are many many vendors there and lots and lots of fruit and vege vendors and often pretty hard-working immigrant families who come in grow food and sell it. At that market I think people would be safe in assuming that the food had come from New Zealand perhaps but I'm not entirely sure about that. For example from time to time there are pineapples for sale there. Now to my knowledge we don't grow pineapples in New Zealand. So I was thinking about the labelling requirements for what is essentially a growers' market or perhaps the vendors at the market go and buy stuff from wholesalers and then they sell it the next day. They are often on-selling slightly less fresh food. Often it's grown in their own market gardens and it's kind of the excess the stuff that couldn't be sold to supermarkets because it's not good enough but it's perfectly good food.So I'm wondering about the labelling requirements at the Avondale markets as opposed to a supermarket. I see there is a clause that food can be excluded from being a regulated food if requiring the food to comply with the standard would be unduly onerous or wouldn't help consumers to make informed decisions about purchasing the food. That's in clause 5(4). So that's interesting there but this is not really to do with the food itself per se; it's to do with where it's being sold and the type of market it's being sold at. To my mind it's not going to be quite as easy for the vendors for the sellers at the Avondale markets to label the food to be able to display where it has come from in quite the same way that it would be I think comparatively easy for the vendor at a supermarket to be able to label the fresh fruit and vege that's being sold there and of course in the Titirangi markets given the nature of the farmers market that makes a difference.Now look I see that in some of the discussion around this bill there was some consideration given to roadside vendors people who have stall on the side of the road—you know lemons for sale with an honesty box perhaps—Dr Duncan Webb: Free-range eggs.Dr DEBORAH RUSSELL: —free-range eggs for sale those sorts of things which are just there. Of course as you are driving by and you stop at one of these roadside stalls to buy—or perhaps cycling walking scootering by whatever happens to be the way that you're choosing to transport yourself. That's quite easy to make the assumption that that is where in fact the food was produced but somehow the possible disconnection between the food produced on farmland but sold at the Avondale markets—that's exercising my mind. I'm rather hoping that I can get some clarification perhaps some report-back from what the Primary Production Committee discussed on this point—because I'm sure the committee would have discussed it; it's quite an interesting point around food production and sale—and what resolution they came to with it. That would help me to understand in particular how it's going to affect people in my electorate who sell food. It's something I very much want to know about.