Davis Kelvin: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDavis Kelvin: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 22 July 2015. Volume:707;Page:5196. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]12.KELVIN DAVIS (Labour—Te Tai Tokerau) to the Minister of Corrections: Does he stand by his statement in regards to the July 2014 report on fight clubs in Mt Eden Corrections Facility that he “became aware of the report’s existence only late last week”?Hon Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA (Minister of Corrections): Yes.Kelvin Davis: Is he confident that Serco is accurately reporting all assaults at Mt Eden Corrections Facility; if so why?Hon Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA: I get my information from the department through Serco and I have no reason not to believe that the information that is conferred on me is accurate; so yes.Kelvin Davis: Was the Department of Corrections visiting Mt Eden Corrections Facility to investigate allegations of fight clubs a year ago; if so does he accept Serco’s claim that it became aware of the issues only recently?Hon Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA: Yes I accept the chief executive’s claim that he received that report just last week; just as I received that report just last week too.Kelvin Davis: Will he investigate the fact that Serco is transferring injured prisoners out of Mt Eden Corrections Facility to keep its data looking clean as he admitted to Sean Plunket on Radio Live today?Hon Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA: The review that we instituted early this week is quite wide—quite wide—and it will look at all matters relating to contraband and violence at Mt Eden prison and that should encompass what that member has just asked.Kelvin Davis: Has he asked corrections to check whether the number of incident reports filed by Serco covers all of the incidents recorded on YouTube videos; if not how can he be confident that Serco is reporting all assaultsaccurately?Hon Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA: I have asked for a wide-ranging review which will encompass all incidents that have happened at Mt Eden Corrections Facility relating to violence in the past few years.Kelvin Davis: What action did he take when he first became aware of the Nick Evans dropping case?Hon Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA: When I heard of Nick Evans’ death we ordered the chief inspectorate’s investigationimmediately which is normal for a death in custody. Obviously a coroner’s inquest was also demanded.Chris Hipkins: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. With respect my colleague Kelvin Davis’ question was not about when the Minister became aware of the death; it was about when he first became aware of the case.Mr SPEAKER: No no—it was not.Chris Hipkins: He has not addressed that.Mr SPEAKER: No it was not.Chris Hipkins: It was when he first became aware of the dropping case.Mr SPEAKER: Order! With respect that was not the question. The question was: what action did the Minister then take?Chris Hipkins: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: Order! I hope the member is not now—I have made a decision. I have listened to the question. The member is wrong. If he wants to raise a fresh point of order I will hear it but I am not prepared to entertain him relitigating a ruling that I have made.Chris Hipkins: Point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: Is it a fresh point of order?Chris Hipkins: The question was—Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member will resume his seat. I will repeat it for the benefit of the member. I listened to the question. The way that the point of order was raised by the member he is wrong. If he wants to raise a fresh point of order that is OK but if he is attempting to relitigate the decision that I have made that the question has been addressed that is not OK. Is it a fresh point of order?Chris Hipkins: Yes Mr Speaker. First of all my apologies; my point of order was in fact correct and I had misphrased Kelvin Davis’ question which was when he first became aware of the case—sorry what action he took when he first became aware of the case—Mr SPEAKER: What is the point of order that the member is now raising?Chris Hipkins: —not what action he took when he became aware of the death. The Minister has indicated what he did when he became aware of the death but that was not the question. The question is what action he took when he became aware of the case. He may well have become aware of the case prior to becoming aware of the death.Hon Gerry Brownlee: It may help the shadow Leader of the House who seems to be rather pedantic to know that a case is unlikely to be in the ether until the death has occurred so I think the Minister is in the right space. [Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] Order! I have listened to quite enough from both members on this occasion. My job is to adjudicate as to whether the question has been addressed. There is no doubt in my mind that the question has been addressed. Does the member have further supplementary questions? Then we move to questions to members. Question No. 1.