Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
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Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill 
Third Reading 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Minister in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations) 
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 I move  
That the Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time 
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Te Arawa tapu Te Arawa mana Te Arawa waka Te Arawa iwi tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa. 
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Greetings to you all hallowed Te Arawa powerful Te Arawa Te Arawa canoe and Te Arawa people greetings 
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I greet Te Arawa its mana its chiefs and its people. Te Pumautanga o Te Arawa represents the largest group of people to reach a comprehensive Treaty settlement with the Crown. I acknowledge the tipuna and the iwi and hapu of Te Arawa on whose behalf people are here today who have carried the grievances for so long. I acknowledge the presence of the negotiators and trustees of Te Pumautanga o Te Arawa who represent each of the 11 iwi and hapu of the affiliate Te Arawa and I thank them once again for their perseverance and patience on the long road from the first deed of settlement in 2006 to this last hurdle for this settlement legislation. 
The third reading of this bill is a significant occasion for the Crown and for the people of our country. It was the Hon Margaret Wilson who began in December 2002 the dialogue between the Crown and the central North Island claimants on how Treaty claims in the region could move forward. With the assistance of the Hon David Caygill in the earlier discussions that dialogue reached the stage where mandating and pre-negotiations could begin in mid-2003. After many months of intensive and thorough mandating hui the Kaihautu Executive Council submitted its deed of mandate to the Crown in December 2003 which was duly recognised in April 2004. The Crown and the Executive Council then signed the terms of negotiation. 
Since then much has happened which has led to some delays on the road to the settlement legislation. Much of 2007 was spent considering the findings of the Waitangi Tribunal into the settlement and discussing how best to proceed. However with the entrance into the frame late last year of the Central North Island Iwi Collective which was much welcomed by the Crown there has been significant and positive progress with the affiliate Te Arawa and all central North Island iwi. Te Pumautanga o Te Arawa has made a significant compromise by passing the final decisions about most of its forestry redress over to what would be the largest forestry collective in the country for their benefit and the benefit of other central North Island iwi. In return the Crown has maintained and enhanced the value of the affiliate’s original settlement. 
At this point I am reminded again of a phrase used by Te Pumautanga o Te Arawa’s chief negotiator when confronted with the idea of making major changes to the affiliate Te Arawa deal to accommodate the interests of other central North Island iwi. Rawiri Te Whare in his open-minded response to this proposition from the Crown said: “we are willing to be flexible if the Crown is willing to be generous.” I think both parties performed well in that regard given the wide range of interests and the extremely tight time frames that have been satisfied to reach this point. I also believe that this settlement can be celebrated as a well-tested robust and sustainable deal negotiated with humility and consideration for the affiliate’s neighbouring iwi. 
The Crown has learnt important lessons from this experience and will be infusing those lessons into settlement negotiations into the future. The first lesson is that we can be more flexible within the policy framework around negotiations. The second lesson is that we need flexibility to deal appropriately with a whole region when we negotiate settlements within that region. Because of the success of the affiliate Te Arawa and central North Island settlements we have been able to reach agreements in principle with Ngati Manawa and to begin negotiations with Ngati Makino and Waitaha—indeed we expect to announce agreements in principle with those two groups in the very near future—Tapuika Ngati Rangiwewehi Raukawa and Ngai Tuhoe. With relatively minor adjustments made to the settlement process we have enabled these groups to come to the table at the right time in order to ensure that their interests are protected when we negotiate with their neighbours. This is achieving major results. 
The package in this settlement is substantive. In addition to the quantum of $38.6 million and the entitlement to a similar level of accumulated rentals determined according to the mana whenua process of the central North Island collective the affiliate Te Arawa iwi and hapu will receive a formal apology from the Crown for historical breaches of the Treaty of Waitangi an amended financial redress package to reflect Te Pumautanga o Te Arawa’s participation in the central North Island collective settlement the transfer of 19 areas of Crown-owned land of special significance to the affiliate Te Arawa iwi and hapu and redress that will enable increased input into management over Crown-owned land and protocols with various Government agencies. 
I am very pleased and humbled to acknowledge all those of Te Arawa and the Crown who have worked to make this day possible. In particular I would like to acknowledge Rawiri Te Whare who cannot be here today because he is overseas—taking a well-deserved holiday I hope. But I recognise the other leaders in the gallery today. Rawiri’s tenacity and wisdom and his leadership over the past several years have steered the claim through some very challenging times. I also acknowledge the chairman of Te Pumautanga o Te Arawa Eru George. 
I express my thanks to my predecessor the Hon Mark Burton for his commitment to seeking the resolution of Te Arawa’s claims. I am also grateful for the assistance of my colleagues including the Minister of Conservation who has proved flexible yet firm in defence of conservation; the Associate Minister of Finance who has proved firm and then flexible; the Minister of Maori Affairs; and the Associate Ministers in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations. I also pay particular tribute to the Crown officials in this case—a joint move between particularly Treasury and the Office of Treaty Settlements led by a very senior Treasury official Mark Jacobs. 
I look forward to seeing this bill becoming law and the formal transfer of redress around the middle of next year in tandem with the central North Island collective settlement. Settlement date for the central North Island collective is 1 July and it is therefore planned that this bill will come into operation on 2 July. Tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa. 
Hon GEORGINA TE HEUHEU (National) 
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Te Arawa waka Te Arawa iwi tena koutou tena koutou tena tatou katoa. 
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To the Te Arawa canoe to the Te Arawa people greetings to you greetings to you greetings to us all. 
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I greet my relatives in the gallery. This is a proud day for them for us and I offer my congratulations again as I did in the first reading debate. Having been involved with this process for some years now I know how difficult it is finally for an iwi to reach this stage and those who are sitting in the gallery today can rightly feel proud of themselves for what they have achieved. 
I want to read the text of the apology in the bill because obviously without the apology it would be very hard for any settling group to move forward. Clause 8 “Text of apology” states: “(1) The Crown recognises the efforts and struggles of the ancestors of the Affiliate in pursuit of their claims for redress justice and compensation and makes this apology to the members of the Affiliate to their ancestors and to their descendants. (2) The Crown profoundly regrets and unreservedly apologises to the Affiliate for the breaches of the Treaty of Waitangi and its principles acknowledged in section 7. (3) The Crown profoundly regrets and unreservedly apologises for the cumulative effect of its actions over the generations which have undermined tribal structures and had a damaging impact on the landholdings and development of the Affiliate. (4) Accordingly the Crown seeks to atone for these wrongs and assist the process of healing with this settlement and looks forward to building a relationship of mutual trust and co-operation with the Affiliate.”  
Thereupon lies the platform that enables Te Arawa to move forward from today and to do so in a new spirit of cooperation and engagement with the Crown. With that apology the Crown on behalf of the people of New Zealand atones for the wrongs it has committed against Te Arawa—and that is hugely important—and to itself then restores some of the honour lost when these breaches occurred basically starting from 1867. The Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill is the final settlement of all historical claims of the iwi and hapu represented by Te Pumautanga o Te Arawa. It results from acts or omissions by the Crown prior to 21 September 1992 and it is made up of a package that the Hon Dr Cullen has basically put forward this morning. 
It is important for all to know particularly those within the Te Arawa area that no private land is involved in the redress only Crown assets. It is also important for the wider community to know that with the passing of this bill into law the ability for Te Arawa henceforward to bring further any matter that results from the claims that are settled here is gone. So I hope that the people of Rotorua and the wider surrounds see this as the positive step that it is because it is positive. 
Indeed the settlements that have been in place now since the early 1990s under the stewardship of the Rt Hon Douglas Graham have proven that these settlements are not just for Maori—they are not just for the tribe that settles—they are for the wider community and they are for New Zealanders. As I say they are something that we all can be proud of as a small country. Other jurisdictions look to us—they are quite admiring of our efforts in this regard—and all New Zealanders can be proud. 
I want to make reference to the select committee hearings. There will be those who made submissions on matters that we traversed yesterday in the Committee stage who will still be feeling aggrieved. I would like the affiliate to consider that the representatives—the trustees of this settlement—endeavour to bring into the settlement those who still lie outside of it because in the end the children the mokopuna and the tamariki are all ours and they all deserve to benefit. So to have some sitting to one side is of no benefit to anybody. I know that my whanaunga some of whom are here today will endeavour to do that—to bring into the fold of this settlement which is a hugely important settlement those who still sit outside it. I commend to the leadership that for the well-being of the tribe going forward they put those matters to the forefront of their minds once this bill has passed into law. 
I am very proud to be a member of this House when these settlements go through. Indeed the Treaty settlement process was a major reason for my entering Parliament in the first place. Now I see in the House settlements that emanate from my own area and I am very pleased that the present Government has negotiated these. It puts me in a position where I can offer some praise and take some pride in them without looking like I am taking any praise for myself. I know the Maori members on the Labour side understand that. This settlement will be a great boost for the central North Island together with the “Treelords” deal which we will be considering shortly. With the issues surrounding the Waikato River which flows into our area—which we will also be considering later in the day—these are very huge steps forward. 
I commend the Minister in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations for the vigour the enthusiasm the passion and the understanding he has brought to this process in the last 12 months. I suppose I can only say that it is a pity he was not in that position earlier and I say that without any disrespect to his colleagues who held the position before him. But this process does require passion. It requires an understanding of the complex issues involved—and they are hugely complex—and it requires enthusiasm compassion and a love for the people of New Zealand for these matters to move forward. Without that—without love respect and humility towards New Zealanders—these things are harder to achieve. 
I guess the other thing that is shown here is that when the right conditions are in place the iwi will step up to the plate. I also commend Te Arawa for stepping back albeit that in the end there was no choice given the Waitangi Tribunal findings and also actions in the High Court. But I do commend Te Arawa for stepping back to allow the Crown to go into the central North Island and negotiate the other claim—the central North Island claim—which could have been done only with Te Arawa stepping to one side and letting those interests be explored and also concluded. 
So as a member of the Te Arawa waka this is a proud day for me. I am very pleased to be here and to see this day come for the affiliate and for all of us. I wish those in the gallery well as they move forward. The hardest part is probably now as the affiliate goes forward because now it actually has the assets and it has the responsibility of making sure that those assets are well managed and that more than anything those assets accrue benefits for all the members of Te Arawa each and every one and especially our children and mokopuna. 
I wish Te Arawa well in their journey. We are there of course; we are all involved. I congratulate Te Arawa on their patience their forbearance and on staying with the kaupapa that has been pursued by tipuna before them. No doubt if they are looking down now they will have a big smile on their faces and rightly so and Te Arawa can have that as well. No reira tena koutou tena koutou tena tatou katoa. 
Hon MITA RIRINUI (Associate Minister in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations) 
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A tena koe kai te Kaihautu o te Whare nei. He paku noa iho taku tu me tautoko ake i nga korero kua korerohia i roto i te Whare i tenei ra e pa nei ki tenei pire a Te Arawa. Otira me mihi ake ki tera o nga kaumatua mai ra i te iwi o Te Roroa mai i te Tai Tokerau nana i tu i roto i te Whare inapo kia korerohia tana korero whakamutunga. No reira kai te rangatira Clem te Kaikorero Awhina o te Whare nei nau nei i korerohia to hitoria ki a tatau kia marama ai tatau katoa ko wai koe no hea koe he aha nga tuahuatanga e pa ana ki a koe? Otira ki to whanau me te iwi ra o tera wahi a Te Roroa. No reira tu whakaiti noa iho tenei ki mua i a koe tena koe tena koe tena koe.  
Huri atu ra ki a Te Arawa whanui tonu mihi tonu ra ki te Ariki Nui ki a koe e Tumu nau nei tatau i tautoko i nga ra kua taha ake nei. Nau tonu i arahi mai to iwi mai i Ngati Tuwharetoa kia tautokohia nga pire e rua ka tu ki roto i te Whare i tenei ra.  
Otira e te Kaihautu aroha mai kihai hoki au kia huri atu ki te reo o Tauiwi i tenei wa. Otira ko te hunga kua tatu mai i roto i te Whare nei a me ratau kua haere a-tawhiti mai kai te tino marama.  
No reira Te Arawa waka Te Arawa tangata tenei ra ta koutou mokai e tu whakaiti nei ki mua ki a koutou i runga i te kaupapa i arahi mai ra koutou mai ra i tera o wa tatou rohe mai i Maketu ki te tonga mai i Nga Kuri a Wharei ki Tihirau. Ko tatau ano tera. No reira mihi ake ana ki a koutou mo te maro me te humarie o te kaupapa nei i arahi mai ra e koutou. Kua korerohia e te Minita mo nga Take Raupatu a Takuta Michael Cullen nga korero katoa e pa ana ki tenei o wa tatau kereme. I korerohia e ia te hitoria nga piki me nga heke i tau mai ki runga i o koutou pokohiwi nga taumaha kua taha ake nei. No reira me pehea ra te korero maku? Me pehea ra te korero maku kua oti katoa ra?  
No reira kei oku kaumatua e Anaru e Rangi taku tuakana e Eru me tera o to koutou kaiwhakawhiriwhiri kaiwhakahaere kaiarahi kaitohutohu kaipakanga a Rawiri kua whiti atu ki tawahi. Tenei ra te tautoko ake i nga mihi ki a ia mo tona humariatanga. Nana tatau i arahi i runga i te huarahi tika kia tutuki pai ai tenei kereme e pa nei ki a ngai tatau a Te Arawa. Mihi kau ana hoki au ki nga Minita na ratou i tautoko. Mihi kau ake ana ki te Minita Maori nana i ki mai ki a matau kia kaha ra. Ahakoa nga piki me nga heke kia kaha ra ki te kaupapa o tenei kereme. A me tenei ra mai ra i Te Tai Tokerau Ngai Takoto Te Aupouri me tona kaha ki te tohutohu ki te kohekeheke ranei koi na te kaupapa o tenei tangata e awhina nei i te kaupapa. Me te mihi ano ki ta koutou mema mai i Rotorua ko ia ra te Minita mo Te Atawhai o nga Ngahere kai raro i te Karauna a Steve Chadwick. Ko ia tetahi i tautoko. No reira piri katoa mai nga Minita i runga i te karanga o Te Arawa kia tautoko ake i te kereme kia tutuki pai ai.  
Ahakoa nga piki me nga heke o nga ra kei te heke mai tae atu ki te waru o Noema ko te mea nui kua tu mai tatau i roto i te Whare i runga i te kaupapa kua horahia nei. Me te mihi ano ki tena o tatau tuahine ahakoa tana korero he korero whai poti kai te pai kai te pai kai te pai. Tu ana ahau ki te tautoko i nga korero katoa kai roto i te Whare nei. Koia ra ano kihai tonu tenei ki te huri atu ki te reo o tauiwi e ki nei ko te reo tahae whenua kai te pai. Kei waenganui i a tatou te wairua o koro ma o kuia ma nga taonga nga korero nga whakatauki katoa i whakarere iho nei e ratou i te wa hei huarahi mo tatau. Na runga i tenei tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa.  
E te Kaihautu kihai hoki au e huri atu ki te whakamarama i nga korero kai te pai. Waiho ma tenei o nga rangatira e kaha ana ki te korero i te reo o Tauiwi e whakamarama. No reira na runga i tena tena koutou tena koutou kia ora tatou katoa. 
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Greetings to you Madam Assistant Speaker. I will be brief. I endorse the previous speakers in this House in relation to this bill of Te Arawa. I would like to acknowledge that elder from Te Roroa from the north who stood in the House last night to deliver his final speech. So to you the patrician Clem Deputy Speaker of this House last night you gave your farewell speech in which you gave us glimpses of your history and personal insights your family links and your tribe Te Roroa. So I humbly acknowledge you: greetings greetings and greetings to you. 
I turn to acknowledge the representatives of the broader Te Arawa confederation; and to the noble house of te Heuheu: your support Tumu was crucial in making progress. You led Ngati Tuwharetoa in support of the two bills passing through the House today. 
I plead your indulgence Madam Assistant Speaker: I will not speak English. I know that the people present including those who have come a distance understand clearly my words.  
To the ancestral canoe of Te Arawa to the people of Te Arawa I stand here your servant. You have left your lands that stretch from Maketu to Tongariro to attend to this matter. And to my other people of the territories that stretch from Nga Kuri a Wharei ki Tihirau I greet you and praise the strength and the dignity you have displayed. The Minister in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Dr Michael Cullen has spoken comprehensively on this claim. He gave a comprehensive history of this claim and the burdens you have carried down through the years. What can I possibly add? It has all been said.  
To my elders Anaru and Rangi to my kin Eru and to your negotiator manager leader guide fighter Rawiri who is currently overseas I support previous statements attesting to his gentle demeanor. He led us on the right path to achieve completion of this claim for us the people of Te Arawa. I would like to thank the Ministers involved—the Minister of Maori Affairs who urged us to be steadfast in this claim no matter the trials and tribulations; and to this member from the north from Ngai Takoto and Te Aupouri who advised and chastised us to achieve more; and lest we forget your local Rotorua member of Parliament Steve Chadwick the Minister of Conservation who gave her support. It can be said the Ministers of the Crown came together in response to the call of Te Arawa to support the claim to its completion. 
Regardless of the ups and downs in the days to come including 8 November the main thing is we stood in this House to support the bill presented here. I acknowledge our sister; although her speech was merely chasing votes it is good. I support all the speeches here in the House. I will not speak English the language it is said of one who steals land.  
The spirits of the elders have come amongst us—their treasures their stories their sayings show the path to follow. So on that note greetings to you greetings to you and greetings to you all. 
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Hon PAREKURA HOROMIA (Minister of Maori Affairs) 
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 Tautokotia nga korero i korerotia atu a to tatau Takuta a Dr Cullen mo te ahua o te kereme nei. E mihi kau ana i a koe e Michael Georgina Mita me nga kanohi Maori i konei e whai atu a muri a te take nei. Tena koutou. I a koutou e Hori o Raukawa e mihi kau ana tena koe. E Bill i a koe me toku whanauanga kai te noho tata ake ano i a koe i a koutou o Ngati Manawa e mihi kau ana. E Rangi e Anaru e tautokotia ana nga whakaaro o Eru mo tera tangata e ki atu a te takuta nei kua rere haere ake ano ki Itaria. E mohio ake ano tatau. No reira e mihi kau ana ki a koutou katoa o Te Arawa. Me koutou e Matt mai i Tuhoe tena koutou. Tena koutou mo to koutou kaha ki te whakatu a muri a wenei. I a koutou hoki o Ngati Whakaue me a koe e Te Ariki Nui e Tumu. Tena koe. Tena koe mo to kaha mai i te hui tuatahi mo nga iwi katoa mo to kaha to ahua tu pakari pera i a ratou o Te Pumautanga. No reira tena tatau.  
He nui atu nga whakaaro mo te ahua o tenei pire. I tu kaha te ahua o te pakihi o te umanga me te pai o te oti penei tonu. No reira tena tatau. 
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I support Dr Cullen’s comments regarding this bill. Congratulations Michael Georgina Mita and others who will follow me. Thank you. Greetings Hori of Ngati Raukawa and to you Bill and my kin sitting near you and all of Ngati Manawa. To you Rangi and Anaru I support the praise by Dr Cullen for the other leader who has gone to Italy for a holiday—congratulations Te Arawa. And congratulations to you Matt and Ngai Tuhoe on your work; and also to Ngati Whakaue. Mention must be made of Tumu te Heuheu. Thank you for your strength and persistence right from the first pan-tribal meeting—similarly Te Pumautanga. Thank you all.  
There is so much more that I could say about this bill. The business and commercial sides are sound; this matter has been completed satisfactorily. So greetings to us all 
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Yesterday one was feeling an urgent need for tomorrow and we are here today in yesterday’s tomorrow. It is certainly a great time and a great day for Maori to celebrate. Along with Dr Cullen I recognise the greatness of the Maori leaders who have had the wherewithal to make sure that this has happened. They have decided and defined how to take this forward along with the Crown. I commend the leadership of Dr Cullen and I commend Mita Ririnui and Mr Jones for the effort they have put into it and all members of Parliament. 
Just to reiterate what Dr Cullen has said I say this is a great day for all New Zealanders. The fact that Maori have played a key role in it is something that we need to recognise and the fact that at times the off-line korero gets out into space is another issue. We are here today which will be all of the tomorrows as we go forward—the future for Maori. 
I recognise Te Ariki Dr Tumu te Heuheu’s leadership not just his paramountcy but the leadership that is recognised by a whole lot of Pakeha in this country. He is as elaborate and successful as any corporate leader but being the rangatira that he is he is of course better in our Maori hearts and minds and I commend him for that. 
I recognise Wira Gardiner Matt te Pou and all of the officials from the Office of Treaty Settlements from Treasury and from Te Puni Kokiri for the effort they have put in. And of course I recognise myself and everybody else from the Crown who has been involved. Nobody says that so I thought I would suggest it. I also recognise the rest of the Maori faces my friend Tau Henare and these ones over here—te Ropu Maori. I want to mihi to koutou e Rangi Anaru e Eru. 
You know it takes a lot of stomach—guts in the ground language—to step back to step aside so that people can step within to step forward and that is what has happened. This process has helped a whole lot of people to step forward and for that it will be etched in history. The great deeds done through the foresight of the leadership will be remembered by the mokopuna of all these great iwi. This leadership stands alone and stands alongside the better leadership in this country. For that I commend these people and I commend the bill to the House. Kia ora tatou. 
CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (National) 
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 As my colleague Georgina te Heuheu said National supports the third reading of the Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill and congratulates all those who have put so much work into it. I believe that above all this bill is evidence of statesmanship by the affiliate which has shown a huge willingness to compromise. As the Minister rightly said huge generosity of spirit was shown by the affiliate’s leaders throughout this entire process. That has resulted in this settlement and the central North Island settlement which we will consider shortly. I have always enjoyed my meetings with the leaders of Te Arawa. They are principled and they are patient especially in the face of delay and disappointment. To paraphrase what a former English judge said of himself—probably incorrectly—they have every Christian virtue except resignation; they have soldiered on very well. A third reading is not the place for reviewing the mistakes of the past. Now we must all move forward in a spirit of generosity. 
I do not think I need detain the House for very long in reporting to it what the Committee stage of the bill yielded. There were a number of amendments which I believe improve the bill. The first which should cause large numbers of the public to be more relaxed concerns public access. A number of clauses have been inserted to emphasise the fact that public access is to continue and public right-of-way easements will be granted. There are a couple of other minor changes in the first Supplementary Order Paper and another was tabled yesterday by the Minister to make a minor change to clause 12 dealing with the definition of affiliate historical claims. I agree with what he said in the Committee stage. Probably in legal terms the addition of new subclause (5) to deal with the issue of airspace over Rotorua airport and the neighbouring marae is unnecessary but for avoidance of doubt it is good to include it. 
I too like my colleague want to refer to the apology because I do not believe that the acknowledgments and the apology should be regarded as pro forma statements in the bill; I believe they are very important indeed. I particularly refer to clause 8(4) of the apology which emphasises the fact that the Crown seeks to atone for the wrongs that are referred to in the acknowledgments and looks forward to building a relationship of mutual trust and cooperation with the affiliate. It is one thing to acknowledge the failings of the past and it is another to atone for them but it is very important to work together to build a relationship of mutual trust and cooperation with the affiliate in the years to come. I say that because in my opinion there have been a number of Treaty settlements where the Crown has signed the deed the legislation has been passed and then sometimes the mistakes of previous times begin to be committed again because people have forgotten there is a new relationship and there is an obligation on the Crown to act according to the terms of the deed and the legislation. In this legislation there are many positive obligations on the Crown which it is obliged to carry out. 
So the emphasis is on atonement and I certainly hope that in the years to come as the deed is given effect to there will be proper notice made of what has been done in the past and the mistakes of the past will not be repeated. As my colleague said Treaty settlements require good faith on both sides. They require compromise patience and enthusiasm—what I would say is a kind of “We’re all in this together” kind of approach—and that has certainly been evidenced here. The last thing we need in Treaty settlements is arid legalism and obsession with process. I believe that that is why at times things have gone off the rails but I think we are probably on the right path again. 
I congratulate all those present on their achievements. I know that those in the gallery will forgive me if I single out one person my former partner at Bell Gully Roger Drummond with whom I have worked on Treaty matters in years gone by. I know how much he enjoyed working on this matter. It was not just another brief but a real opportunity to play a part in the future of this country. I congratulate him and his team on all they have done. 
National supports the third reading of this legislation. It is a great day for Te Arawa iwi and we certainly hope we shall have the opportunity to work with them in the future. 
PITA PARAONE (NZ First) 
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A tena koe Madam Assistant Speaker a tena tatou o te Whare nei. Engari i mua i te haere tonu e hiahia ana au kia tautoko nga mihi i mihia atu ki a koe e te rangatira e Clem i muri mai i to korero mutunga inanahi. E hiahia ana au kia mihi atu ki a koe mo to kaha ki te arahi i te Whare i te wa e noho ana koe ki runga i te Turu o te Whare nei. Na reira nga mihi. Ko te tumanako nga manaakitanga o Te Runga Rawa ki runga i a koe me to whanau hoki. Na reira tena koe.  
Na ka huri aku mihi e Madam Assistant Speaker ki enei o nga rangatira i tau mai i te hau kainga mai i nga waka e hia ranei engari ko te mea nui nga whanaunga. Na reira i runga i te ahuatanga o ena korero hiahia ana kia mohio mai tenei Whare ahakoa e hore kau i taka mai nga hua o tenei pire ki runga i a au mai i Ngati Hine engari e tika ana kia hakahuangia te whanaungatanga ki waenganui i a matou o Ngati Hine ki a ratou kua tae mai nei. Na reira koutou nga rangatira kua tai mai nei ka nui taku mihi na te mea na koutou i kawe atu tenei kaupapa kia tae pai ki mua i te aroaro o te Whare nei i te ra nei. Na reira ka nui taku mihi ki a koutou pau te kaha. 
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Greetings to you Madam Assistant Speaker and to us of this House. Before I continue I would like to endorse the acknowledgments made by other members to you Clem Simich the chief at your valedictory speech yesterday. I commend your work and leadership as Deputy Speaker of the House. May the blessings of the Almighty above be upon you and your family. 
Madam Assistant Speaker I turn now to greet the leaders present in the House; they represent many tribes but have come together in kinship. I would like the House to know although this Ngati Hine person will not receive benefits from this settlement it is right to proclaim the kinship ties between Ngati Hine and the tribes here. I applaud you the leaders; it was you who progressed this matter to this stage where the House is considering the bill today. I therefore admire you and your efforts greatly 
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On behalf of New Zealand First I join with previous speakers to express our sentiments of welcome to our esteemed guests who have been responsible for bringing this bill to the stage we are debating today and who will be responsible for subsequent bills that we will be debating further on. 
I took the opportunity to acknowledge the Hon Clem Simich given that this is probably his second to last day here in the House and to acknowledge the work he has done in bringing order to the House whenever he has sat in the Chair you now occupy Madam Assistant Speaker. I acknowledge that not only because of his long service but also because of the fact that he is from Te Tai Tokerau and is affectionately known as a “gumdigger”—na reira e te whanaunga tena koe. But I digress. 
I stand in support of the Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill and I say that this is a very very important day not only for the affiliate hapu and iwi of Te Arawa but also for us as a nation. I feel privileged to be part of this debate and part of what will form the overall history of our country. This has been a long journey for the affiliate Te Arawa iwi and hapu. It has come not without sacrifice and I think it is only right that we acknowledge Rawiri Te Whare and his team. I personally acknowledge all of those who have led the discussions and the negotiations that have allowed this bill to come before the House at this time. They have I believe exercised great patience. 
When we talk about settlements there is always the question of whether the settlement has been fair. I again quote the comments that Rawiri has often made during this whole process: “Is this a just settlement or is it just a settlement?”. We know that however hard we might try to ensure that there is a fair and just settlement circumstances are such that the claimants invariably make some sacrifice. But that sacrifice is made willingly in the final analysis. Initially and rightly so there was some objection but at the end of the day the claimants left the table knowing that they had represented their people to the best of their ability and that they had the task of taking back to their people what had been offered to them. They have done that. Quite clearly as a result of the support they have been given we are now discussing the Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill in its third reading. 
Of course there will always be members of the iwi and the hapu who will have a different view. I think the good thing is that that is their right. Having expressed that contrary view it then becomes incumbent on the leadership of the hapu and the iwi to assure those who have expressed some disquiet about the settlement that what they have been able to receive is the best they could have received and more important to explain how the benefits of that settlement will filter down to the beneficiaries. If the leaders feel it has been a major task for them to get to this stage I would suggest to them that they have a greater task not only to ensure that the proceeds from the settlement are managed in a way that is beneficial to the hapu and the iwi but also to manage those proceeds so that beneficiaries are able to receive the benefits of this settlement. 
I understand that the chairman of Te Pumautanga o Te Arawa is overseas. I suggest that the process of settlements is a little bit like politics. We know that when leaders of political parties disappear overseas and once the task has been achieved—or has not been achieved—when they come back they find themselves replaced. I hope that is not the case for Rawiri. But that is one of the tasks the current leaders will need to address and I know they will. That task is to ensure that the proceeds from the settlement are managed well and to the benefit of their beneficiaries that they are able to grow the settlement proceeds and that they are able to distribute them in due course to their beneficiaries. 
I conclude by saying that as for all good leaders it is advisable for leaders to look behind them from time to time to ensure that the people they purport to lead are still there. If they are not their leadership comes into question. I have no fear about the leaders’ awareness of the task that lies before them. It is one thing to get the quantum from the settlement; it is another to be able to manage it to best advantage for their people. 
Na reira e tatou ma koutou nga iwi nga hapu o Te Arawa ka nui nga mihi ki a koutou. Ahau nei na no Ngati Hine kei te totohe tonu matou i tenei ra tino kaha ana toku puhaehae ki a koutou. Engari e pai atu tena. Waihotia wena korero ki a au. Engari i tenei wa na koutou te ra na reira tena koutou tena koutou huri noa ki tenei o o tatou Whare kia ora mai ano tatou. 
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So to all of us to you the people and subtribes of Te Arawa huge greetings to you. I in particular of Ngati Hine who are still disagreeing with each other today really envy you. But that is fine. What is happening among us remains with me. But at this point in time the day is yours so greetings to you greetings to you and greetings to us all throughout this of our buildings. Thank you 
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SUE KEDGLEY (Green) 
: 
 Tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa. On behalf of the Green Party I too welcome the representatives of Te Arawa who are here today in Parliament on this historic day. The Green Party like others before us acknowledges that the bill is a historic settlement bill and we are very pleased to support it. It is by far the biggest Treaty of Waitangi settlement with the Crown involving 170000 hectares of central North Island forest and is significantly bigger than previous large settlements including the Tainui settlement the Ngai Tahu settlement and the Sealord deal. Indeed some have referred to this as the “Treelords” deal and there are similarities. Its income is derived from harvesting rights in the first instance and although it does lay out a process for establishing mana whenua at some time in the future in the meantime ultimate ownership of whenua is left undetermined. 
The bill vests ownership of 86 percent of the central North Island Crown forest land and the accumulated rentals of $222 million held in trust by the Crown Forestry Rental Trust plus ongoing rentals in the Central North Island Iwi Collective. These funds will be divided up among iwi collective members according to a percentage formula and in addition Maori foresters will benefit from the emissions trading scheme. 
So it is a significant outcome with significant economic benefits for many Maori and according to the bill eventual ownership of the land will be determined on the basis of mana whenua in accordance with tikanga Maori. There is no dispute that negotiating this settlement is very very significant. We give our respect to the negotiating team such as Tumu Te Heuheu and others for their very long and tireless work in negotiating this settlement. 
The Green Party does however have a concern which has been alluded to by previous speakers that some small iwi and hapu can feel they are grist to the mill in a settlement process when there is a desire by the Government to negotiate a large settlement in a specific time frame. There are hapu and iwi for whom this bill constitutes a loss of land and mana and we are concerned that the Government’s Treaty process enables breaches to continue and that as a result no Treaty settlement is truly full and final or indeed can be felt by all to be truly just. 
Nevertheless the Green Party supports this bill. We acknowledge the enormous amount of work effort and determination it has taken on the part of iwi to bring it to this point. We congratulate those who have secured the settlement and we also acknowledge the significant concerns that continue to exist and cannot be denied. We will continue to advocate for a Treaty breach settlement process that is determined by Maori rather than the Crown and that is therefore inherently more just. We wish Te Arawa and all of those iwi and hapu involved in this settlement the very best of luck for the future and we acknowledge them on this historic day. 
TE URUROA FLAVELL (Maori Party—Waiariki) 
: 
Tena koe Madam Assistant Speaker kia ora tatau e te Whare tatou kua hui mai nei i tenei rangi hei tapiritanga korero. Taku i te tuatahi i mua o te timatanga mai o tenei korero kei te tautoko i nga mihi ki te mema o te nota e Clem. Ko koe tera i korero nei i kauhau nei i to korero inapo. He rawe tonu te whakarongo ake ki o korero e pa ana ki to noho i te Whare Paremata. Me mihi ki a koe me tuku i a koe ki te haere i runga i te huarahi i whakarite mai ai e koe mou. E nga iwi o te kainga kua tau mai ki te Whare Paremata i tenei rangi nau mai haere mai. Ehara i te mea e tika ana kia riro ma Te Arawa ano a Te Arawa e whakatau no reira me waiho nga whakatau ki nga kaikorero i tu i mua i a au. Me ki kua ea nga mihi ko taku he tautoko.  
Kei te mohio tonu au he rangi whakahirahira ano hoki tenei mo koutou katoa te hunga kua tau mai i te rangi nei. Me pera ka tika. Ka hoki nga mahara ki nga tau kua hipa ki te hunga kua ngaro. Na ratou tenei take i arahi i te wa i a ratou ara ko Manuhuia tera ko Whakahuihui tera ko Pinda tera ara noa atu ara noa atu.  
E koro ma e kui ma hoki wairua mai. Whakarongo ki te ia o te korero ki te matu o te korero me te tumanako ia kua watea koutou ki te ki kua ea. Kei te mohio tonu matou he ara tapokopoko he ara tikoki te ara i haerea ai e koutou. Penei i te ahuatanga i pa mai ki to tatou tupuna a Tamatekapua me ana mahi puremu i te haerenga mai ki Aotearoa nei kua heke ta koutou waka ki roto i te Korokoro o Te Parata engari pena ano i a ia kua puta te waka ki te whai ao ki te ao marama. Me ki kua u te waka ki uta. No reira me mihi ka tika.  
A tena ka patai au i te patai he aha te take kua tau mai koutou tatou ki konei i tenei wa. I haere mai tatou i hea? Ko tona tikanga he whakatika i te he te mahi. I hara te Karauna i kokirihia nga nawe ki mua i te aroaro o te Taraipiunara o Waitangi kia riro mana nga take e wananga kua ki mai pea te Karauna kua rahi me whakatau i te nawe. I whai koutou i tenei huarahi ka mutu nga korero i te rangi nei kua ea te take mo tenei wa. Engari kaore pea wetahi i te mohio mo nga uauatanga.  
Kua puta te nawe na nga mahi a te Karauna. He mahi whanako te mahi he mahi tinihanga te mahi. Ko te kooti a-ture nei tetahi o nga mea i te putake o nga raru. Ko etahi o koutou kua rongo i te ahuatanga o te Public Works Act. E pera ano hoki matou o Ngati Rangiwewehi. I ngaro te whenua i noho kore whenua te iwi. I te pera i Okere i Orakei Korako ka mutu ko te whenua tonu o Ngati Uenukukopako ara kei kora te taunga waka rererangi o Rotorua inaianei. Kei a matou o te Pati Maori tetahi pire hei whakatikatika i tenei mahi a ka korerohia tera i te hokinga mai ki te Paremata hou. Hei whakamarama ake kei te ki ake matou ko te whenua kua tangohia e te Karauna mo nga kura ranei mo nga rori ranei engari i te roanga o te wa kua huri te putake o te tuku ki take ke me whakahoki ki te iwi no ratou tera whenua me tetahi utunga me ki. Koi nei tetahi take nui nei ki a matou o te Pati Maori.  
Ko tenei mahi o te whakatau i te raru ranei i te nawe ranei ki taku titiro he mea hohonu nei ki a taua te Maori. Ko etahi ka whakapau i te kaha ka whakapau moni ka noho i te mokemoke ka noho i te rangirua ka noho i te riri. He aha ai? Ko taua kahui he mokai no te iwi he ringaringa mo te iwi. Ko etahi pea kaore e kore ka ruku ki te hohonutanga o te take ka tata toremi na runga i te whakapono he nawe kei konei me pakanga i te pakanga mo toku iwi te painga mo aku tamariki. Ki taku mohio kei te pera etahi o koutou kei te pera hoki etahi o tatou. He mahi uaua he mea whakapau kaha. Mo te hunga i pera rawa kia kitea mai i te rangi nei ka nui nga mihi. Ka kore e whakahua ingoa kei mahue ake i tetahi kei ki mai pea wetahi kei te mihi au ki a au ano. Waihotia nga mihi ki a tatou ano mo te kainga.  
Ara ano etahi take kaore ano kia tutuki noa hoi ano koi nei te korero o wetahi i te hui o te komiti whaiti i Rotorua. Tuatahi mo Ngati Whaoa. Kia mohio mai koutou kua tae mai tetahi tono a Te Runanga o Ngati Whaoa kia tangohia o ratou ingoa i te pire. Na nga tikanga o te Whare nei kaore tera i whakaaetia. Engari ahakoa tera he take ka puta a tae noa ki te wa ka tau te rongomau. E aroha atu ana.  
Ka rua i tae mai te tono a Te Maru o Ngati Wahiao ki te ki he iwi tonu a Ngati Wahiao he whenua ano o ratou i te pirangi ratou kia tu motuhake engari kia tu ki te taha o Tuhourangi. I puta ano hoki tenei take i te hui a te komiti whaiti. Ko ta ratou ae he uri ratou katoa no Tuhourangi penei i a au o Ngati Rangiwewehi a Ngararanui a wai ake o te kainga engari ko Tuhourangi ano a Tuhourangi ko Ngati Wahiao ano a Ngati Wahiao. Ae kua moe tetahi ki tetahi ae kotahi tonu te kapa haka kotahi tonu te tu engari i te noho awangawanga ratou kei ngaro te mana motuhake o Ngati Wahiao a-iwi nei. Ehara naku enei korero engari koia nei te tono.  
I rongo a Rangipuawhe Maika i te korero nei a i tere tonu tana whakautu ki te patai a Tau Henare raua ko Pita Paraone. Ko tana ae kare he paku raru ki te ki Tuhourangi me Ngati Wahiao i roto i te pire nei. Mo matou o te komiti i te harikoa. Kaore matou i te pirangi ki te whakatau i nga take o nga iwi engari mo tenei take i te harikoa matou. I puta te tono i whakaaetia te tono e tetahi waha korero matua o Te Pakira o te tupuna nei o Wahiao katahi te mahi pai. No te wiki i muri tata mai i hoki mai te korero ki te komiti whaiti kaore etahi i whakaae. Ehara i te mea me waiho ake ma matou e whakatau kao engari he take tonu. Ko te tumanako ka ata tirohia tenei take a te wa. He take nui i te mea e hangai tonu ana taua take ki te pire ka tae mai a ko ake nei mo te Whakarewarewa me ki mo te puia.  
Na Ngati Uenukukopako te karanga ano ki a matou ki te tuku i tetahi tapiritanga ki te pire kia kore te pira e whakararu i ta ratou kereme mo te taiao i runga ake o te taunga waka rererangi. Na te Pati Maori tetahi i tuhi i whakarite engari i rongo te Minita mo te take nei a ka takaturia e ia he Pepa Whakatau Tapiri hei tiaki i tera huarahi ki a koutou Ngati Uenukukopako.  
Mo Ngati Tukiterangi. I rongo matou na te wareware na te hapa ranei kaore taua hapu i roto i te pire. Na te Minita ano tera i whakatika no reira ka pai wona taringa i rongo i te korero. No reira me whakanui ka tika. Ka hoki atu etahi panga whenua ki roto o nga ringa o te iwi. E ai ki taku rongo e rua tekau ma wha nga panga whenua ka hoki ki te iwi.  
Ko Te Whakarewarewa tera ko nga whenua o Rotongata tera o Rotoatua ano hoki. Me pera ka tika. Ara ano te patai he aha te roto mena karekau he wai o roto? Kei a koutou te tono tuatahi mo nga hua a te Karauna mena e hiahia ana a ia ki te hoko. Ka pai ano hoki tera. No reira mahia te mahi. Mahia te mahi mo te painga o nga kahui iwi kia taka nga painga ki te wahi e tika ana.  
E Te Pumautanga o Te Arawa no koutou tenei ra i te taha o wetahi atu o nga iwi kua tau mai i te rangi nei. Kei te aroha ake kaore toku rahinga i to koutou taha engari kei te pai. Kei te korero te Minita ki a Ngati Rangiwewehi ratou ko Tapuika ko Waitaha ko Ngati Makino. He ra tona pea ka tutuki pai nga take katoa mo tatou katoa o Te Arawa.  
Me pehea hoki a muri ake nei? Kei a koutou te tikanga. Kua ea te wahanga ki te Paremata kei a koutou inaianei. Hoea te waka kei aku rangatira. Ka hoki au ki raro i a Tiheia ki te mimi o Pekehaua ki reira whakatika ai i toku waka kia noho ano te niao o toku waka ki te taha o to koutou waka. Kei te pera ano hoki etahi atu iwi o tatou. Kia eke ki tera wa koia te whakatinanatanga o te korero whaititiri ki te rangi Te Arawa kei raro.  
He kupu whakamutunga kei te mihi ki nga Minita na koutou te take nei i akiaki i kokiri. Ki a koe te Minita Takuta Maikara Karana ki a koe Parekura Minita o nga Take Maori kia koutou to kahui ki a Mita raua ko Shane kare he mutunga mai o nga mihi ki a koutou i kaha nei ki te whaiwhai haere i tenei kaupapa ki tona mutunga. Kai aku rangatira ka nui te mihi ki a koutou tena koutou tena koutou huri noa i te Whare i tenei rangi tena koutou katoa. 
[An interpretation in English was given to the House.] 
[ 
Greetings to you Madam Assistant Speaker and to us all of the House gathered here today to add to the debate. The first thing before I begin this address is to endorse the accolades to the member of the north to you Clem and your valedictory address last evening. It was wonderful to listen to you as you went over your time in Parliament. I acknowledge you and wish you well in what you have planned to do. To the tribes from home who have arrived at Parliament today welcome. It is not appropriate that Te Arawa greets itself so I will leave the welcomes to those who have spoken before me. So I say the greetings have been dealt with and I am happy to support them. 
I know that this is a great day for you all the people who have arrived here today. And it is a great day. I reflect on the years that have gone by and those who have passed on. It was they who led the way in their time and I speak of Manuhuia Bennett of Whakahuihui Vercoe Pinda Pirika and others.  
Return all of you to this occasion. Listen to the debate and the depth of discussion and I hope you can all say it is now finished. We all recognise that this has not been an easy journey that you here today have travelled. Our ancestor Tamatekapua as we know when on the trip from Hawaiki committed adultery and descended into the whirlpool of Te Parata. Like him you were able to come out of the whirlpool to the world of light and continue on the journey. So it is appropriate that I acknowledge you.  
Now I want to ask what the matter is that brings us all here at this time. Where have we come from? In theory we are here to right a wrong. The Crown did wrong a case was taken to the Waitangi Tribunal to consider perhaps the Crown said: “Enough let us settle the grievance.” You followed this path discussion is now finished today and the issue is put to rest at this point. But many may not be aware of the difficulties.  
The grievance has come out of the deeds of the Crown. There have been theft and deceit. The courts of the land are one of the factors behind the grievances. Some of you may well have heard of the Public Works Act just as we of Ngati Rangiwewehi have. The land was lost; the people lived landless. It was like that at Okere at Orakei Korako even to the lands of Ngati Uenukukopako—that is where the current airport stands. We of the Maori Party have a bill to deal with this matter and it will be debated in the next Parliament. To explain we say that land taken by the Crown for schools or roads perhaps but that over time has been used for some other purpose should be returned to the people who lost the land with compensation. This is a high priority for us of the Maori Party.  
The matter of settling of claims has some significance to us as Maori. Some give their all use their own money experience loneliness and unsureness perhaps anger. Why? Because they are the servants of the people. Some perhaps dive so deep into the issues that they almost drown in the belief that if there is a grievance one should fight the fight for the betterment of our people of our children. As far as I know this is the case for some of you. It is difficult work; it is draining. For those in that category congratulations. I will not name individuals in case I leave some out and in case some accuse me of patting myself on the back. I will leave that for us when we get home. 
I need to say that there are some unsolved issues or at least this is what we were told at the select committee hearing in Rotorua. First in regard to Ngati Whaoa you need to know that a submission has arrived to us from Te Runanga o Ngati Whaoa asking to have the name Ngati Whaoa removed from the bill. Because of the rules of the House these moves were ruled out of order. Despite that it is an issue that will continue until things are sorted out. 
Secondly a submission was received from Te Maru o Ngati Wahiao to say that they are in fact an iwi in their own right they have land and they wish to stand separate yet beside Tuhourangi. This issue was also raised at the select committee process. To them yes they are all descendants of Tuhourangi just like myself of Ngati Rangiwewehi like Ngararanui and others from home but Tuhourangi is Tuhourangi and Ngati Wahiao is Ngati Wahiao. Yes there has been intermarriage and yes there is one culture group they do stand as one but some are concerned that the rights and sovereignty of Ngati Wahiao will be lost. This is not what I said but it is in the submission.  
I heard Rangipuawhe Maika in his quick response to the question from Tau Henare and Pita Paraone. He said yes there is no problem with referring to Tuhourangi and Ngati Wahiao in this bill. Now we did not want to enter inter iwi issues but on this matter we were very happy. The request was made to uncouple it was agreed to by one of the senior speakers of Te Pakira marae and Wahiao the ancestral house and that was great. The week afterwards we received advice that some had not agreed. It is not as if we can settle this now but it is an issue. My hope is that this matter is dealt with shortly. This is an important matter because it affects a bill that will be presented shortly about Whakarewarewa.  
Ngati Uenukukopako also asked us to add an amendment to the bill to ensure the bill would not compromise their claim over the airspace above the airport. The Maori Party wrote an amendment but the Minister had heard about the matter and prepared a Supplementary Order Paper to protect your interests for you Ngati Uenukukopako. 
I move to Ngati Tukiterangi. We heard that through forgetfulness or just as a mistake this hapu was not in the bill. The Minister also fixed that so his ears are fine and he did hear the call. So it is appropriate that we celebrate. Land will be going back to the people.  
From what I understand 24 pieces of land will be returned from around Whakarewarewa to the lake beds of Rotongata and Rotoatua as well. That is appropriate. There is still the unanswered question: what is a lake without water? You have the first option on Crown assets if they choose to sell. That is great. So go for it. Do what you have to do for the betterment of the people.  
Te Pumautanga o Te Arawa this is your day along with other tribes. I am saddened that my tribe are not with you but that is fine because the Minister is talking with us along with Tapuika Waitaha and Ngati Makino. A day will come when all of us of Te Arawa will have our issues settled.  
So where to from here? That is up to you now. The part for Parliament is complete—it is on you from now. Paddle the canoe. I will return to Tiheia to the water left by Pekehaua to prepare our canoe so it can lie at the side of your canoe. Others are doing the same. When that day comes it will be the embodiment of the saying: when lightning strikes Te Arawa will be below.  
In conclusion I acknowledge the Ministers and the work you have done to move this matter and the negotiations along: the Hon Dr Michael Cullen and the Hon Parekura Horomia Minister of Maori Affairs as well as the Hon Mita Ririnui and the Hon Shane Jones. Your efforts to bring this matter to its conclusion are greatly appreciated. So to you my leaders greetings to you greetings to you and greetings to us all throughout the House today greetings 
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JUDY TURNER (Deputy Leader—United Future) 
: 
 I stand to speak in support of the Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill. United Future supports and congratulates Te Arawa iwi and hapu for achieving this settlement. We wish them well as they chart a positive way forward better resourced to do so. We also support the relational aspects of the settlement which see the Crown acknowledge and apologise for taking too long to respond to the grievances acknowledge the failure to protect tribal structures and acknowledge the failure to protect the interests of the iwi and hapu when purchasing land. We also note the new gratefulness that sees the Crown acknowledge the generosity of Te Arawa in gifting land of scenic significance to the nation and their contribution and faithfulness as Treaty partners. Someone once explained to me that Maori back into the future mindful of lessons learned in the past. I think this bodes well for the handling of this settlement. We thank Te Arawa for their graciousness and patience and we acknowledge those who did not live long enough to see this day. We have great pleasure in supporting this bill’s third reading. 
Hon TAU HENARE (National) 
: 
Te mea tuatahi mihi au ki a koe e te kaumatua o te Whare nei Clem. Mihi kau atu au ki a koe me to whanau me o koutou korero i roto i te Whare nei inapo. 
[ 
The first thing for me is to acknowledge you Clem elder statesman of this House. Greetings to you and your family and for your words in the House last night. 
] 
Acknowledging Clem Simich and his speech in the House last night I am reminded of some  
Hansard 
 I read 80 years or rather from 80 years ago—I was going to say I read it 80 years ago but I am not that old. My great-grandfather stood in this House and referred to the Dalmatians as Austrians. 
Hon Dr Michael Cullen 
: They were at that time. 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: They were part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. I acknowledge Clem for both his Dalmatian side and his Maori side. 
This settlement has been a long time coming. It has suffered a few speed wobbles on the way. If I look back at the first reading debate on this bill which happened on Tuesday 24 June 2008 I see that it is actually a very very short period between then and now. So I take this opportunity to congratulate members of the House and members of the Maori Affairs Committee which I think is the best select committee in the whole House. I congratulate my colleagues from all sides of the House. 
I want to mention very briefly the apology the issuing of protocols the vesting of certain properties and the provision for whenua rahui amongst other things that are in the bill. One would expect those things in a Treaty settlement bill would one not? Is it enough in terms of the quantum and in terms of the return of land taken mana taken and so on and so forth? Only time will tell. I am a believer that in this case as in other cases Te Arawa mana is intact and always has been. It has never been taken away from them as we are so wont to talk about in Treaty settlements. 
An issue arose out of the select committee which I want to respectfully impress on the affiliate and that is the coupling of Tuhourangi Ngati Wahiao. Many people in this House over the past 24 hours have told me and the House that it may not be appropriate for Parliament to be the adjudicator in that. If that is right—and I am in no way questioning that—then maybe the next step for the affiliate and those who are not too keen on the settlement is to work towards some sort of agreement and future with each other rather than all the argy-bargy. 
Just before a third reading speech one is inundated with faxes and emails saying “Do this! Do that! Don’t do this! Don’t do that!”—all sorts of things. Although it is lovely to hear from so many people the third reading speech should be about celebration. It should be about how proud the iwi and I think the House should be. But there should also be recognition of what a sad day it is—the process over the last 150-odd years has got us to where we maybe should have been 150 years ago. As a city slicker as a born and bred second-generation Maori out of Otara— 
Hone Harawira 
: Hi ha! 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: Only another person from Otara would say that. So to my whanaunga my tuakana Hone Harawira I say kia ora. 
I ask that we city slickers are not forgotten. Let us not forget about those who may not be as knowledgable about where they come from. There are a whole lot of them living in Auckland and there are a whole lot of them living in Wellington. There are even people of Te Arawa descent living in Christchurch for goodness’ sake and in even in Dunedin—and all over the country. So please do not forget—I hate the words “urban Maori” because there is only one sort of Maori and that is Maori—those Maori who live in urban areas. Please do not forget them. 
Here is a little wiring diagram. I am sure the House is au fait with wiring diagrams as of the last couple of months—[ 
Interruption 
]—and I say to Ron that he will not win the Maori vote. First of all there is the Government. It takes a hell of a long time to screw out of the Government what is got out of the Government whether it be an apology whether it be money or whether it be the return of land. Then that goes down to the iwi reps and for a while the iwi reps are all happy because they have a cheque they have a title to some land and they have other things as well. So the reps are happy and they go off to their little trust boards and say: “Righto boys and girls what are we going to do about this? What are we doing to do with what we’ve got?”. 
The next step down on this diagram is the people: the mums and dads the aunties and uncles the brothers and sisters. It does not really matter where they are from or what sort of walks of life they come from; they will always whakapapa back to the iwi. I am reminded of a term that the Rt Hon Winston Peters used successfully 10 or 15 years ago. He talked about the trickle-down theory and about the fact that it was not working. There was a trickle down but it did not get down to the people it was supposed to get to. 
I implore those who are in front of us today on this happy occasion to make the trickle down work. I ask them to make it work for all those people who make up the bulk of the iwi. It is not the trust boards and the runanga who are the iwi; it is the people who are the iwi. So I ask that we make an effort to see whether we cannot get this trickle down into a bit of a flood for those people who really need it. I am not saying for a minute that iwi take the responsibility of Government in fixing up all the social ills the education ills and so on but I say that there are people out there in need of help in terms of the cultural paradigm so please help those people and particularly those people in the cities. 
I want to give a special mention to Dr Cullen—and coming from me that is pretty big. He has had the sort of passion that can get things moving. I said in my first reading speech that I could not say that about the others so I will not. But I say to Dr Cullen that it has been a pleasure to watch and be part of the process that he has involved himself in. Kia ora. 
Bill read a third time. 
Waiata; haka; karanga