Tinetti Jan; Stanford EricaHon JAN TINETTI (Labour): Thank you Madam Chair. I want to sort of take a little bit of a change now to go to learning support and I'm quite interested to know what the progress has been of the Highest Needs Review to date particularly over the 2023 year and what changes have been seen for learning support delivery from the beginning of 2024 as a result. And I'm going to ask another question because I might not get the opportunity to again so I want to know: who has the oversight of those changes is that something that the Minister is going to keep pursuing and who is the team that will have that oversight of those changes now?Hon ERICA STANFORD (Minister of Education): Well I'm glad the member brought up learning support because if you look back in the time period that we're debating the results are not great. The wait times have increased the numbers have increased and as we all know the worst thing for a child is to be on a wait-list. It's all about right child right service right time and we have not been meeting those goals. I think the member will agree that the learning support system is broken. One of my key priorities that I announced yesterday was to make sure that children do receive the right support at the right time. One of the things though that I noticed coming into this role was that we spend an awful amount of money on learning sport; well—well—over a billion dollars and potentially a lot more once we start collecting up all the things we spend money on. But the thing for me was that while there are strategies there are plans there have been reports that have been done—in the last six years not a lot of action. Things have not got better; things have got worse. And frankly I'm not interested in writing another glossy strategy. I'm not interested in doing another review. We already know what the issues are; the sector will tell you quite clearly. The ministry know. But there's some fundamental problems. The first thing is data and evidence. One of the things that struck me when I came into this job when I asked—about all of the things that we spend money on in learning support—what are the outcomes for many of them we don't know what the answer is. How many children do we reach? What is the lift in their circumstances? What are the programmes that are doing really well? So it will be my focus with the backing of the ministry to make sure that we are evaluating and monitoring all of the things that we do so that we can shift money into things that are working and stop doing things that are not working. So data and evidence is going to be absolutely crucial. I've already said to the ministry that I want evaluation frameworks for the things that we're doing so we can see what is successful. It is also my intention to make sure that we are shifting back-end resource to meet front-end need. You would have already seen that I think in the fact that we're prioritising period products—meeting front-end need shifting some of that back-end resource. We will be doing the same in learning support. But in the last period that we're looking at things did not get a lot better and it is my intention that we will take a look at the resource we will take a look at the programmes and the member is going to have to keenly await the Budget to have any further information.