Reti ShaneDr SHANE RETI (National—Whangarei): Thank you Mr Chair—just to address some of those points and the Minister's response. First of all notably while we're talking time lines around minimum quality standards I note that the Minister refused to address the question I put to him around if the time line which he published—which is currently in the public domain—is kept to or if it's already got slippage.Secondly I think the question that the member Chlöe Swarbrick who's just taken her seat puts out—the issue that they addressed around encouraging local manufacturing by allowing domestic strains—has some merits and I think we would support that. We want to be supportive of our local manufacturing community. The issue and the problem and what needs more detail is this: every strain of cannabis in New Zealand at the moment came here illegally. The only way you could get a strain into New Zealand was to breach our biosecurity border and bring it in illegally. So what other countries have done when they've confronted this is they've said Look we want to support our domestic industry because if people have to bring strains from offshore they'll pay a levy." We know that levy can be 10 percent or more—very expensive—and automatically the goal you're trying to achieve which is affordability and accessibility starts to decrease.So what other countries have done is they've introduced an amnesty which said "OK we acknowledge that all our domestic strains came here illegally. We accept that but we also accept that there may be some strains that are suitable for commercial manufacture." I'm understanding and I'm hearing that there may be four or five commercial strains suitable and able to be ramped up for commercial manufacture. So what other jurisdictions have done is said "OK accepting that we want to support the local environment. We want to help avoid overseas fees if we can. What we'll do is we'll have an amnesty period." which is actually quite short—sometimes a period of two weeks I think I've seen overseas. It's an amnesty period where if you are growing a domestic strain illegally over that amnesty period you can register your strain. Now it's deliberately short so that people don't cross the border knowing that eventually you'll be able to use domestic strains and this is part of my concern here now that this has been flagged. And I get the principle and support the principle but there's more detail to make it really good.The detail that's missing here is: is there an amnesty period? How long will it be for? And I think that leads to greater discussions relevant to this clause around biosecurity and probably a bit further down that path—that's where I need to go here. But really the main point I'm getting at is several things. First of all being supportive of our local environment our local manufacturers—supportive that there may be some domestic strains here illegally that are suitable for commercial production—and therefore supportive of the intent of this clause but is there an amnesty period and if so how long will that be? Does the Minister take into account—has he considered—our biosecurity risk having flagged that we will allow domestic strains? Has he communicated with our biosecurity border and other officials that we will be permitting domestically acquired medicinal cannabis seeds—that we'll be authorising them in some way? What is his plan for that is my question."