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DAIL JONES (NZ First) 
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 The preceding speaker mentioned something about leadership. There is absolutely no doubt about the leadership coming from New Zealand First. It is consistent strong and effective. Currently we are seeing New Zealand First lead the issue on the Civil Union Bill. We are prepared to ensure that all New Zealanders have a say on the Civil Union Bill. We want a referendum on this issue. We are prepared to support a referendum. All 13 New Zealand First members support a referendum. Where is Labour on a referendum? It does not want the people to have a chance. Jill Pettis does not want the people to have a voice. No way does Labour want the people of New Zealand to express their views on the Civil Union Bill! 
Of course United Future gave the game away. When it signed the agreement with Labour it should have made it clear that the Civil Union Bill which was a Labour Party election manifesto promise was not to be included in this year’s legislation. However we will debate the Civil Union Bill later on because United Future has let it happen. 
On the question of leadership the Civil Union Bill is one issue today. The other issue of course is the debacle over Zaoui. Labour will be carrying the can for Zaoui. Two years ago it put that man in Mount Eden Prison. Two years ago it said that man was a danger to the country. We know that as long ago as 29 November 1997 CNN.com and ArabicNews.com reported: “Ahmed Zaoui a leader of the Algerian Armed Islamic Group which is largely blamed for massacres of civilians in Algeria has slipped into Switzerland and requested asylum.” 
That man is a known Armed Islamic Group (GIA) leader and terrorist but could the Labour Party Government run a case to the Refugee Status Appeals Authority to have that guy declared not to be a refugee? No it could not. Its handling of the matter was appalling. Could the Labour Party Government win even any section of the court cases that have gone through the courts? No. It says that it has all this information. Helen Clark as Minister in charge of the NZ Security Intelligence Service has said that she has all this information about Zaoui. Has she succeeded? No she has been an utter failure in so far as those cases are concerned. 
Yet in all that space of time Zaoui has accumulated $1.5 million in taxpayers’ expenses as he has sat in jail. If the Labour Party Government was any good at its job he would have been on the next plane by December 2002. Instead the Labour Party Government has let this person hang on in New Zealand interminably. 
We have an incompetent Minister in charge of the NZ Security Intelligence Service but we have had an even more incompetent succession of Ministers of Immigration. They have allowed 966 refugee-status claimants to enter New Zealand despite the fact those people’s travel documents were false or had been lost or destroyed. 
Lianne Dalziel 
: Since when! 
DAIL JONES 
: Since 1 January 2001 to 19 November 2004. The member interjecting was a Minister of Immigration. I received that information just in the last few days in answer to a written question. No wonder Lianne Dalziel is on the back benches and no wonder Paul Swain is going to join her shortly! 
It is no wonder Helen Clark is not in New Zealand to face the music. When the Supreme Court lets Zaoui out on bail he possibly will go to the Mangere Refugee Resettlement Centre where there are other Muslims—young Muslims. All they are looking for is a leader and Zaoui a GIA terrorist leader will be put in their midst. What an explosive mixture! It will be allowed by this Labour Government’s failure to represent New Zealand’s interests in any court even in the Court of Appeal but especially in the Supreme Court. 
Helen Clark is hoisting the white flag on this issue. We can all see it now. She is an incompetent Minister in charge of the SIS. New Zealand First has tried to give some leadership on this issue. We have said to her that there is a deficiency in the Immigration Act and that we are prepared to support the Government under urgency to amend it immediately. But the Labour Party Government is not going to amend the law now; it will do so after the bird has flown. Then it will amend the Immigration Act. What is the point of that? The Government should take the opportunity to change the law while we still have the bird in the hand while the horse is still in the stable. Once it has bolted—once Zaoui is free—the Labour Party Government will change the law. What a ridiculous means of running this country! 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Was this member a lawyer? 
DAIL JONES 
: I was a lawyer but that member was never a teacher—that is for sure! I ask whether the Government will supply the classified information to the Supreme Court. Will it find out what has happened to the 500 missing refugees whose documents were lost?