Sio WilliamSu'a WILLIAM SIO (Labour—Māngere): This is my first call and I hope it will be my first of four calls on new Part 7. I want to pose a question to the Minister in the chair Chris Finlayson and to this Government: what is going on with this Government? The whole bill is about increasing the supply of housing and increasing affordable housing but for the vital parts of the bill that we have presented—new Part 3 increasing the house supply by 10000—they vote it down. We talked about cracking down on speculators; they vote it down. I hope that they do not vote down new Part 7 which I now come to. New Part 7 says that it requires that instead of what this Government is doing—taking money out of Housing New Zealand and using it for whatever it desires—that money actually ought to go back to Housing New Zealand so it can build more social housing. So it is to focus on the function of Housing New Zealand. I will tell you why that is important: because at the moment the whole purpose of Housing New Zealand that social foundation of providing housing for the needy has been destroyed. Yet for the first Labour Government that set up Housing New Zealand its very purpose was to help those in need of housing particularly after World War II. But this Government comes along and in 8 years has destroyed that basic foundation of what Housing New Zealand was established to do. I agree with section 18(2)(a) of the Housing Corporation Act in providing rental housing principally for those who need it most". That should be what Housing New Zealand is about and yet today I can give you examples. In the Housing New Zealand office in Māngere they kick people out who are in need of housing for simple things. One woman was behind on rent by $100. They gave her 90 days' notice right on the spot. They would not even give her the opportunity. This is a sole mother who works and in fact on the phone they bullied her. That is just one example of many. The needy whom we talk about are the people who are living in cars and living in garages. The other day Alfred Ngaro said to me: "We've always had people living in garages and in cars." That is what he said. That is ludicrous. We may have had people living in garages but only on a temporary basis in preparation for getting themselves on their feet. This Government has normalised people living in cars and in garages. This amendment surely needs to pass so that the money generated by Housing New Zealand can go back for the building of social housing for those in need. Housing is a fundamental right. I heard in the homelessness inquiry—here is something that I hope will prick the heart of that Minister. An investor said to me—this was presented at Te Puea Marae—"Housing is so critical for raising families and communities. If families have a stable habitation a stable house it means those children will have a stable family stable schooling and a stable group of friends because they are not moving around from house to house. Generally that means that you have good strong local communities contributing to that community." That is what would happen if we were investing money properly into Housing New Zealand and providing for the needy. But we do not want people just to be living in social housing; we want them to own their own homes. That is part of our overall plan and I had thought that that was what this Government was doing in this legislation. But again in that initial question "What is going on with this Government?"—it is crazy what it is doing on the one hand saying that it wants to increase the supply of affordable housing and on the other hand voting down every initiative that we have put up. I suspect it is going to vote down this initiative but this initiative is about helping the needy—helping the needy. I cannot understand how some of those MPs on that side can live with themselves—people who believe that they are close to the community. I am not pointing my finger at anyone in particular but I want to name Alfred Ngaro and Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga because they go out to the community and say—"