Hudson BrettBRETT HUDSON (National): Thank you Madam Chair. It's a pleasure to talk on this Part 2 of this bill. I want to in this contribution limit my comments to the technology protection measures (TPMs). My colleague Simon O'Connor spoke about copyright and potential ramifications there. I actually don't want to talk about where that copyright might go but I want to hear from the Minister in the chair the Hon Damien O'Connor because the Government has claimed they made substantial changes that merited a name change to Comprehensive and Progressive".I've read through these changes here in new section 37A in clause 8 that the bill would amend—Kieran McAnulty: They're comprehensive and progressive.BRETT HUDSON: Yeah they comprehensively do very little Mr McAnulty. So we've got some minor wording changes to how you basically define a copyright owner of a work that issued a copy of the TPM to the public or communicated the TPM work to the public or a person under licence from the copyright owner who issued a copy of the TPM work to the public or communicated the TPM work to the public. It's not really a substantive change from what was already there.So if this is comprehensive and progressive Minister what has the Government negotiated and how is that reflected in this bill before the committee that seeks to address the concerns that were raised across the technology industry the ICT industry across the years that this agreement—both the original and this latest change—was in negotiation? What changes are there in this bill that addresses the concerns of that industry about what the TPM measures would mean for users of accessing content over the internet over physical devices over new media and with new technologies? For instance their concern at a most basic level was that this entrenches geo-coding through the likes of DVD regions although DVD is all but a dead technology now. Particularly they were very concerned that technologies like geo-coding or geo-blockers would—that signing up to this agreement without particular exceptions would open otherwise law-abiding New Zealand citizens up for potential prosecution—for instance by using a DNS re-router a domain name system re-routing service so that they could watch US Netflix content instead of the curated Netflix New Zealand content.So simply signing up to those their argument was exposed New Zealanders to risk. The only way that risk could be addressed was through court action because it wasn't sufficiently explicit in the legislation or the agreement as to what they could or couldn't do. They have for years signalled their concerns. They have spoken when the Minister and his team were in Opposition. They spoke with these people a lot. The former Minister for Government Digital Services when she was an Opposition spokesperson spoke to these people all the time including the likes of InternetNZ and their support partner the Greens—this is how important the groups like this were to these members in the past—have actually suggested that the Government should just make InternetNZ the Government's Chief Technology Officer.So given the Government members had expressed so much concern for what these groups had been advocating when those Government members were in Opposition I'd like the Minister to spell out for us now that if this bill is worthy of being called the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement then how in Part 2 has the Government addressed the concerns from within the ICT community that just signing up to these TPM measures would expose New Zealanders to legal ramifications—simply using software services that would allow them to present themselves as being resident other than the physical place where they live which might then allow them to access certain content from overseas that is normally curated or not even available at all in New Zealand. Let's just be clear: these people aren't talking about stealing or not paying for this content; what they're talking about is New Zealanders who will legitimately sign up and pay to view the content but who use software tools to present themselves in a fashion that would open up their access to larger and different content libraries.So Minister if this is comprehensive and progressive then point out for us—answer the question—where the changes are here that address those concerns."