Jones Shane: Ngati Tuwharetoa Raukawa and Te Arawa River Iwi Waikato River Bill — First Reading 
Jones Shane: Ngati Tuwharetoa Raukawa and Te Arawa River Iwi Waikato River Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:665;Page:12809] 
Hon SHANE JONES (Labour) 
: 
 A kati kia tukua e au tenei korero oku i roto i to tatou reo Maori. E te iwi koutou kua tatu nei ki Te Upoko o te Ika ki te whakarongo ki te matakitaki i a matou nga kaitorangapu i whakaritea hei whakatatu i te mahi i oti i a koutou ngatahi ko te Karauna tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa. Tena tatou i roto i te ahuatanga o o tatou matua o o tatou tupuna na ratou i wawata ka oti tetahi tauira penei rawa te ataahua otira kihai rawa ratou i toe kia kite a-kanohitia e ratou enei mahi rangatira e oti ana i tenei wa. Na reira ratou ki a ratou tatou ki a tatou Te Arawa Ngati Tuwharetoa Raukawa tena koutou tena tatou katoa. 
Tenei pire ka nui noa atu to matou tautoko. Kei te whai mai i muri i te pire i oti i te Whare mo te wahanga ki o tatou huanga ki roto o Waikato ake. Otira ko te pai o tenei pire kei te puta mai koutou kei te whakapumautia ki roto i tenei pire nga panga i raro i te Tiriti e hangai tonu ana ki tenei awa me ona taonga katoa mo tena iwi mo tena iwi mo tena iwi. 
E toru ke nga ropu kua whakaritea hei amo hei hapai i nga panga me nga moemoea o koutou tokotoru me te Karauna. Ma roto pea i te pire penei katahi ka mau haeretia ki etahi awa ke atu ki etahi iwi ke atu. Kua pau te toru tekau tau mai i te wa i waihangatia ai te ture e kia nei ko te Resource Management Act. I tera wa o tatou matua a Bob Mahuta ma i akiaki kia puta tetahi tauira penei me te pire neki. Otira i roto i tera wa te tau 1990 kihai te nuinga o te ao torangapu i rata ki te whakaaro pera. Mai i tera wa tae noa mai ki tenei katahi ano kia rata. 
Na reira e tika ana tatou kia mihi ki te iwi na ratou i waihanga na ratou i hahau a ka taria mai ki te aroaro o te Whare i tenei po. Tera pea ka eke rawa tatou ki tenei whakamatautau ara nga ui hohonu nga wero kahore ano kia tatu ara penei me te patai nei no wai ranei te wai? Ka riro i a wai ranei nga painga me nga hua ki te whakamahia te wai hei kaupapa mahi moni. Ma roto pea i nga huarahi penei ka mama pea a tona wa te whakatatu pena he panga ano o te iwi Maori he panga ano o te Karauna e taea ranei te mahitahi kia kaua rawa atu te wai e whakamahia ka mutu kahore he hua e hoki mai ana ki te marea whanui ara ki a Ngai Pakeha ki a Ngai Maori ki te katoa. A tona wa te whakamutunga te whakautu mo tena patai ka rangona ka kitea. 
A me mihi noki ki te Minita nana tenei kaupapa i hari mai. Me te mihi noki ki a Dr Cullen engari te mihi atu ki te Minita i teneki wa. Te tauira i oti i a matou te wa i a Dr Cullen kihai rawa i tino eke ki tona taumata. Na nahau ano e te Minita i hoki ka korero tonu ki nga reo o te iwi katahi ka whakahangaitia tetahi tauira penei rawa te pai. Na reira tika ana tenei Whare teneki taha o te Whare me koutou kia mahitahi kia oti wawe wenei raruraru. Kia kaua rawa atu e waiho hei take wehewehe i waenga tonu i a tatou nga kaitorangapu otira te marea whanui o roto o Aotearoa. 
Te take e tarewa tonu ana hei akiaki ma te Kawanatanga he putea hei whakakaupapa hei whakatinana i nga hiahia kei roto i tenei pire. E hia ranei mahere e korerotia ana e hia ranei mahere e tumanakohia ana. Otira me whiwhi huruhuru kia takoto rangatira ai wena mahere kia whiwhi ringaringa ai kia whiwhi waewae ai nga mahere kia kaua rawa e waiho kia tarewa tonu me te mea nei he kohu kei runga i te mata o te wai i roto i tenei awa. Na reira e kore e kahore nui tonu nga tono nui tonu nga inoi ka taria mai ki te aroaro o te komiti uiui mo nga take pena. Otira ma te Kawanatanga ano e whiriwhiri a tona wa me nga kaunihera kia kaua rawa atu e waiho he kongakonga anake e watea ana hei muru i nga nama e pa ana ki te waihanga mahere ki te whakahaere i nga take a ki te whai haere me pehea ranei te wai e ma ai me pehea ranei ai te hunga e whakamahi ana i te wai e mau tonu ai ki te ture e tika ana mo te whakamahi i te wai hei kaupapa ahuwhenua hei kaupapa whakainu tangata hei kaupapa noki hari i te para o te tangata ki hea ranei. 
Na reira koia taku e mea ake nei ki a tatou i roto i to tatou reo Maori tena koutou tena tatou kia ora tatou katoa. 
[ 
Without further fuss allow me to deliver this address in our Maori language. To the people who have arrived here in Wellington to listen and to observe us the politicians who were given the responsibility to deliberate over what you as a collective completed jointly with the Crown greetings to you greetings to you and greetings to you all. Greetings to you in respect of the situation of our parents and ancestors whose hope it was to complete a paradigm as beautiful as this one. Alas they did not remain nor lived to see with their own eyes these noble undertakings completed today. So they the dead to the dead; and we the living to us the living. Te Arawa Ngati Tuwharetoa and Raukawa greetings to you and greetings to us all.  
As far as this bill is concerned we fully support it. It is a sequel to the one that the House passed for our relatives in Waikato proper. Indeed what is good about this bill is that you are coming to the fore. Another good thing is that any Treaty interests relating specifically to this river and all its properties for that tribe that tribe and that one are embedded permanently in this bill.  
Three specific groups have been settled upon to bear responsibility and to lift the interests and dreams of you three groups and the Crown to another level. Through such a bill as this one perhaps it might be possible to take it to some other river or to some other tribe and apply its principles there. It has been 30 years since an Act called the Resource Management Act today was created. At that time our elders such as Bob Mahuta and others urged that a paradigm and a bill like this be produced. But at that time in 1990 most politicians did not entertain the idea. As time passed and the present day arrived then at last they began to accept it.  
Therefore it is fitting that we recognise the people who created fashioned and brought it before the House tonight. Perhaps we are now up to this examination in terms of questions of an in-depth nature challenges not yet settled like the question of who owns the water. Who will receive the benefits and profits if water is marketed? Maybe co-arrangements like this one will make it easier over time to settle whether the Maori people and the Crown have interests whether it is possible to work together so that the water could never be marketed so that no profit returns to the public at large Pakeha Maori and everyone. The conclusion and response for that question will be heard and seen in time. 
I commend the Minister who brought this bill before the House. While I acknowledge Dr Cullen as well my congratulatory remarks at the moment are directed to the current Minister. The model that we came up with in Dr Cullen’s time did not really get as far as this. But it was you Minister who went back and maintained talks with the representatives of the tribes and came up with a wonderful model like this one. So it is appropriate that this House our side and yours work expeditiously and together through these problems. Let us not leave it to fester and become a divisive issue between politicians and the people of New Zealand. 
One issue that we urge the Government to address is to set aside funding to meet the requirements in this bill. Several plans have been spoken of and hoped for. However there must be funding to successfully implement those plans so they do not remain like a mist upon the surface of the Waikato River. I have no doubt there will be many submissions once this goes before the select committee. None the less the Government will hold discussions with local councils so that there is sufficient funding to implement management plans to clean up the river and keep those using the water in line with laws around agriculture water consumption and transporting human waste.  
So that is my address to us in our Maori language. Greetings to you collectively greetings to us and greetings to everyone. 
] 
It is Maori Language Week and for each of the last 3 or 4 years a number of us have endeavoured to celebrate the language in this week. But in order for the language to survive as our visitors will no doubt know each generation needs to use it with great frequency. 
It was 30 years ago during the process of creating the Resource Management Act based on the reform of resource management law that an attempt was made unsuccessfully to create a model such as the Ngati Tuwharetoa Raukawa and Te Arawa River Iwi Waikato Bill. The wananga took place at the marae at Taumutu in Ngai Tahu. It was found to be too radical and it certainly did not meet willing minds or bodies at that period of time. It is an interesting observation that 30 years have passed since river management and water catchment issues were comprehensively dealt with. I would go so far as to say that the model in this bill although at one level it integrates Maori involvement represents the most significant departure from the way that rivers and water have been managed to date. 
The fear that a number of submitters no doubt will reflect on yet again is that it may prove to be too bureaucratic and that it may place a new level of cost upon the administrative regime that is designed to achieve better water outcomes. During the time we dealt with the other portion of the Waikato River we heard those very negative perspectives advanced by the Waikato people. This model represents no threat to the quality of the water or the ability of either river users or the community to enjoy the services of the river be they aesthetic commercial cultural or whatever purpose a community of interest may seek to enjoy in relation to the river. 
On this side of the House we do not share the view that this innovation represents a retrograde step in respect of statutory management of natural resources. We think it is an overdue step—and as I have said in my view it comes 30 years too late—especially when I think of the people who contributed in 1990 to that wananga searching for a way to integrate Maori involvement into the administration of water resources. As I said in Maori Bob Mahuta and a host of others who are no longer with us endeavoured to introduce those kinds of concepts in 1990. As earlier speakers and indeed the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations said the past has gone and we cannot recreate it. The future for the river I believe looks rosy and we look forward to hearing from different submitters not only those from the Maori community but also those who may need their fears assuaged during the period of time that it lies before the Maori Affairs Committee 
Let us work together on both sides of the House to “de-fang” the misapprehension fearmongering and other scare tactics that so often are visited upon such innovative attempts as this one to involve Maori and to give meaning and real effect to the principles of the Treaty. We support this bill. Kia ora tatou katoa.