SpeechHon ALFRED NGARO (National): Thank you Madam Speaker. So I rise to take a call on this bill and in particular just to probably address some of the comments that have been made by the Hon Tracey Martin. It's not all happy campers on the other side of the coalition Government and they know that. They've seen that. The Hon Andrew Little is laughing. He probably hasn't read the press releases that have come out from the Greens. And either they got it wrong or something's not quite right. They're not all happy campers there.So just to be clear the reason why we don't support this is because it actually does set up a two-tier system. We support wage subsidy. We support the need to be able to support businesses. And the comments that were made about the Canterbury earthquake as an equivalent to when the National Government were in power—they need to look into the detail and the detail was that that was a particular subsidy that was covering those who were in businesses and covering a subsidy and other unintended costs that they had to cover. This is different. You can't say it's the same. But here's what I'd like to call that—when we talk about the parts of this bill that are important in all three readings here's what the Green Party says: This is a broken promise." Word for word. Either someone got it wrong or it's their words. This is from Marama Davidson herself. So where have things gone wrong? Not our words. And after me I know Jan Logie is going to have to stand up and is going to have to speak to it. But she said these words: "This is a broken promise." And here's what she also said: "We're not satisfied that the promise has been fulfilled." Why is it a broken promise? They're very clear. They're intelligent. Here's what they're telling us. It sets up in their words a two-tier system; not our words in their words a two-tier system. Why? Because it actually means that the Government of the day who has the responsibility are admitting that the current level of benefits are insufficient are insufficient to meet their needs. Not my words their words—your coalition. They're not happy campers on the other side because they know this to be the truth. So here's the thing though that I find very interesting. I'm going to be interested to hear the speech from Jan Logie because what Marama also says is this: "There'll be no retaliation no action to this response to this broken promise but we'll continue to speak out." Well I say to the Greens: where are your principles? You have championed consistently around poverty. And if you want to stand on principles you've challenged us—ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Ruth Dyson): Sorry the Hon Alfred Ngaro. Could you please not bring the Speaker into the debate. Thank you.Hon ALFRED NGARO: I have to say to the Greens that the challenges that you've made consistently on principle in regards to benefit levels and here you are faced with this dilemma— ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Ruth Dyson): I'm sorry. Mr Ngaro could you please not bring the Speaker into the debate. Second warning—thank you.Hon ALFRED NGARO: The Greens you put this on record and here's what you said: "It's a broken promise." It gets even worse because Metiria Turei also went on the record as well. Now I can't repeat the words that she spoke. She was right out there and she said this Metiria Turei kicking up the fight of a year calling her former Government's partners—I can't repeat the words but they're inflammatory. They're words that go to the core of what even she believes that this current Government has broken its promises with the Greens that what they've highlighted is quite clearly that this is a two-tier system. So what will other people in the community think about the fact that those—and we're trying to say this and New Zealand First have talked about the fact that it is for those that have been affected by COVID-19. We all agree with that—the impact. But what of those say for instance who were made redundant on 5 February not in March. Will they be able to access their funds? Answer: no. They're in the same predicament. COVID-19 may have impacted their business that they're a part of their employment. They get no access to this fund as well. So where's the justice for them I say to those on the other side. Here's another point I want to put out to you by the way. And I want to read this: "What about those who are migrant workers? Where's the support for them?" And this has got to hurt because it comes from Sue Moroney chief executive of the Community Law Centres. And here's what she says: "It was disappointing the Government hadn't used the opportunity to address migrant workers who'd lost their jobs but couldn't access any support." There's a bit of silence on the other side. Why? Because it's not coming from us. It's coming from one of your own in the community. If you were truly wanting to meet the needs of those who're out there what about those migrant workers? Sue Moroney has declared the fact that there's disappointment in the Government who haven't considered their conditions and the challenges that they face. It's quite clear that on our side it's not the fact that we don't support the need to ensure that those who've lost their jobs because of COVID-19 need some support. But the way that this is being done is not right. We know that in the heart of those in the Green Party they actually agree. And for the first time Jan Logie is going to have to stand up in the House—and I don't want to use that political terminology "swallowing dead rats" because I don't think that's appropriate especially with the Greens—especially with the Greens—even though I know that she's used it so many times in this House. When we were over there and she was over here she used the words "swallowing dead rats". So wow welcome to political life when you're in a coalition Government. When now you're on the other side—excuse me Madam Speaker—when the Greens are on the other side the Greens are going to have to make their decision about what they will do.We do want to support our communities but we can't support this bill this Government in the intent of what they are doing. It sets up an unjust system that we believe is not fair. If they wanted to be fair if they really wanted to get to a point where they made a difference then how about investing not just the wage subsidy? How about a GST—what do you call it?—refund that we have proposed? How about the issue around ensuring that they could be able to capitalise back into capital investment into machinery and so forth up to $150000 in our small to medium enterprises and businesses? What about looking at the ways of sustaining our businesses so that they could stay alive still be able to function giving them cash flow so that they could ensure they could keep their workers on the books employed ensuring a sustainable future for them?But no what we've done here is we've gone to create again the form of a welfare State. In fact that's actually what Grant Robertson said in his speech on the Budget: we're going back to the days of Joseph Savage; we are creating a welfare State. And that's exactly what's happening here. This is the creating of a welfare State. Rather than supporting businesses we're now going to do this. I look forward actually in a moment to hear Jan Logie fumble over her words trying to get her thoughts cleared together to try and justify her position.As I've read out before she knows the Greens know this system this bill is not right. We do not support this bill. We oppose this bill in all three stages."