Genter Julie AnneHon JULIE ANNE GENTER (Green—Rongotai): Tēnā koe. Thank you Madam Chair. Thank you very much to the Minister for his comments. Since we have moved on to Part 2 I have some questions specifically about the FamilyBoost package which will help some people with early childhood education costs. But I still want to focus and come back to a question I had asked last night and the Minister responded to about annex 2 which is the distributional analysis of options in the regulatory impact statement.CHAIRPERSON (Barbara Kuriger): If the question relates to Part 1 we can't go back there and I—Hon JULIE ANNE GENTER: Madam Chair if you will this distributional—CHAIRPERSON (Barbara Kuriger): If it's in this part that's fine. I'm just clarifying.Hon JULIE ANNE GENTER: —it includes—CHAIRPERSON (Barbara Kuriger): Don't argue with the Chair please. I'm just saying that if it relates to Part 1 then we won't go back there but if there is a part in Part 2 that's related to your question we can take it.Hon JULIE ANNE GENTER: Madam Chair as I was saying option 2—the distributional impact analysis—is for the whole package which includes FamilyBoost which is in Part 2. So I think the distributional impact analysis applies to more than just Part 1.But I did have a follow-up question on his answer on that because last night when I asked the Minister about how the—in Figure 1 it shows the impact on household incomes by equivalent income quintile which means we break down people's household income into five parts and it shows that most of the benefit is accrued to the top two quintiles to the highest-income families. The answer that the Minister gave at the time seemed to indicate that there were other transfers and that that was just the changes in the personal income tax thresholds. But as I read it it says that this distributional analysis applies not only to the change in personal income tax thresholds; it applies to the additional transfer policies—that's what this says—including FamilyBoost the in-work tax credit increase and the expansion.So I guess my question to the Minister is—because he's saying that you can't just look at the tax changes in isolation; they're a whole package. But Figure 1 shows the weekly impact of the package on household incomes. So are there other changes over and above what's been analysed here that would change the distributional analysis that shows that higher-income households in New Zealand benefit more from the package of changes including FamilyBoost which is in Part 2 and if that is the case where is the distributional analysis that shows those additional policies? Because from what I can tell the package—and bear with me—includes four policies which include the FamilyBoost policy the in-work tax credit and the other policy that is brought in by this bill.Furthermore I thought it was interesting that the Minister just referred to the status quo and how families with children will benefit. But the status quo would have been as of March this year universal 20 hours free for two-year-olds which would have had a much bigger impact on many more families. So I'm not sure Minister that it's fair to compare this policy which is very complicated and very difficult to access. And I suspect that it's been designed that way to reduce the cost of it and to make it harder for some people to get it because a lot of people won't have the ability—especially when you have young children it's the hardest time in your life. I can speak to this right now. To do life admin of filling out forms and trying to reclaim a reimbursement four times a year—when do we have time to do that? If you're working full time and you've got little children who take a lot of parenting when do you have time to sit down and do all this admin? It would be so much easier to just extend the benefit to everyone with the 20 hours free.So according to the distributional analysis FamilyBoost affects net incomes for 4 percent of all households and 12 percent of households with children. So 88 percent of households with children are not benefiting from FamilyBoost. And speaking specifically to Māori families again this analysis as compared to the overall population—relatively fewer Māori and Pasifika peoples and women benefit from the overall package including FamilyBoost.So I'm interested in how the first question in this distributional analysis seems to indicate that the whole package not just the personal income tax changes—CHAIRPERSON (Barbara Kuriger): The member's time has expired.