van de Molen TimTIM VAN DE MOLEN (National—Waikato): Thank you Mr Chair. Yeah look I'd just like to make a few quick comments in relation to the proposed commencement of the Animal Welfare Amendment Bill as well.I mean ultimately we've got a bill here that has been brought about as effectively a knee-jerk response to what was without doubt a tragedy—the sinking of the Gulf Livestock 1.You know whilst none of us would like to see a repeat of that ultimately it comes back to some of the comments I made in my earlier contribution around the title of this bill as well. That's in relation to the quality of the vessels that are being used as part of this.So that knee-jerk reaction—we don't support it. It is what it is but as Barbara Kuriger has just touched on as well the reality is that that time frame now needs to be amended because we have a very short window—in the scheme of farming system time frames—to now adapt to a new way of operating at a time of significant uncertainty globally around those food supply and food security issues.It would be absolutely appropriate in my mind to take up the Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) put forward by Nicola Grigg SOP 207 proposing to extend the date by 12 months because this would acknowledge the fact that we are in a significantly different global environment from what we were when this bill first came forward.But also it would enable more time for consideration of the domestic impact; that's twofold as well. One is the direct impact on farm systems—but not only the farm system itself and the need to adapt there but also the downstream supply chain implications from that as well.Those numerous other business players rely on this industry—in some cases exclusively on this industry—for their business operations. That's a very scary thing for them to now be looking at a very short time frame in the scheme of business lifespan to have to overhaul totally rejig or somehow adapt their business to create new revenue streams or else go out of business altogether. An additional 12 months I think would be an appropriate reflection to give them time to transition.You know what we're seeing unfortunately time after time is a Government that just doesn't seem to understand what it means for business owners in New Zealand the impacts of their legislation—and we've seen that case after case where something just gets rammed through with no consideration for the actual impact on those that the legislation will be affecting. This is another example of that so we really need that additional time frame to help support those businesses to make a transition. If this is going to pass then we need to give them time.The other aspect of that comes back to some of the comments I made around title as well which was in response to the Minister's comments about his perception of the international view of continuing live exports and whether that might impact our market access potentially around the globe. Now my comments in the title contribution I made were that really in my view the bigger issue is what's happening with our bobby calves or the industry in general from those stock now not being live exported for breeding purposes to continue adding value and food supply into the global supply chain.But now those animals are instead staying here in New Zealand and will in many cases be sent to slaughter. I believe that has a potentially higher risk for our reputation or brand in New Zealand compared to the continuation of the live export trade.So I absolutely believe we need to be having a more robust discussion around what that future might look like for the industry and coming up with some proposals working with industry listening to industry taking on board their feedback via submissions—actually listening—and then coming up with some potential new solutions off the back of that. Because otherwise you're going to end up with a situation where this comes into place in 2023 and suddenly we have an unintended consequence—as we've seen again many times from legislation under this Government—that then ends up being a significant issue and then some sort of knee-jerk or band-aid reaction to try and deal with that and you have this domino effect of poor legislation.That's a concern I have so I absolutely support SOP 207 in the name of Nicola Grigg proposing an extension of 12 months for the commencement to 2024.