7. Question No. 7—Regional Economic DevelopmentDAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT) to the Minister for Regional Economic DevelopmentQuestion No. 7—Regional Economic Development7. DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT) to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: Does he agree with Westland Milk Products chief financial officer Dorian Devers who said of the Government's $9.9 million loan to the company the terms are attractive to us. We could have financed this in other ways but the terms we have been given from the PGF are more favourable. It's a longer-term loan than we can get from a bank which is nice"?Hon SHANE JONES (Minister for Regional Economic Development): It did come as something of a surprise to me that the chief financial officer was breaking wind but I agree with him.David Seymour: When will the Government reveal the precise terms on which taxpayer money is being loaned to a private business?Hon SHANE JONES: In relation to the full details of said loan I have no doubt in my mind that the recipient company will make a declaration as a part of its financial statements. I am loath however—not unlike how the irrigation entity worked under the last regime—to give too much away in an indiscriminate fashion.David Seymour: Let me get this right. Is the Minister saying that he cannot tell the House the terms on which he is loaning $9.9 million of taxpayer money and instead we have to rely on a declaration from a chief financial officer which he has just described in this House as shall we say "flatulent"?Hon SHANE JONES: The fact that that member's using that term is totally appropriate.Rt Hon Winston Peters: Can I ask the Minister as to what his reaction is to substantial new investment in the regions around this country being the subject of constant attack by two members of Parliament from Epsom?Hon SHANE JONES: The reality is that we have a robust process for both receiving and approving proposals. Yes it is different in terms of the last 30 years. Yes it will challenge some of the purists. Yes we will continue to do it and look forward to campaigning on it in good time.Hon Damien O'Connor: Has he seen reports or does he have opinions on the $700 million $350 million of which was taxpayer funding for the Primary Growth Partnership fund allocated by the National-ACT Government?SPEAKER: No no—Rt Hon Winston Peters: There's a precedent.SPEAKER: Well—Hon Damien O'Connor: Come on—it was a report.SPEAKER: Well the member mentions why—I could probably give him a list. First of all it's a question designed to attack the other side and those have been regularly ruled out. There's a question of whether this member has any responsibility for that. We could get quite a long list of reasons why the member's question was out of order.Hon Damien O'Connor: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I appreciate that. I was asking if he'd seen a report or had an opinion and I did extrapolate out because I wanted to be clear what reports the Minister might have seen and I know it—SPEAKER: You can ask him a whole pile of questions about what reports he's seen outside the House but inside the House you actually have to ask some questions about things he has responsibility for and that's not one of them.David Seymour: Another reason: there was no National-ACT Government; it was a confidence and supply agreement. I thought—SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] Order! That member has been warned previously about making disorderly points of order. He had no point of order. He knew he had no point of order. He will stand withdraw and apologise and is on a final warning for that.David Seymour: I withdraw and apologise."