Penk ChrisCHRIS PENK (National—Helensville): Thank you Madam Chair. Just to pick up on a couple of those themes as originally raised by my colleague the Hon Gerry Brownlee and which the Minister of Justice Andrew Little has touched on as well just looking at the date on which most of the Act will come into force being 1 January. With respect I'm not sure that I heard a good answer in relation to the immediate effect essentially that the Act could come into force with. I don't think that anything that is needed to be arranged by way of special arrangement needs to take as long as all the way into the New Year. So a mechanism might be something like immediately come into force" or perhaps "two days after the time that the Act comes into force."But it also would have been available to the Minister to specify a particular calendar date. I mean maybe some time in this month—it could even be tomorrow whatever tomorrow might be. I'm just looking around for a calendar. Well actually that's interesting—the calendar says 3 December but in the real world it's 4 December because we're still in urgency. So I guess we could say 5 December would be perhaps the day it would come in. Ordinarily of course you wouldn't take the risk of putting a particular calendar date because you don't know when a bit of legislation's going to pass except that when you put the House into urgency to go through all stages—even in the circumstance where almost exactly to the minute it's 24 hours since the Opposition first became aware of the bill—then you do have the luxury of knowing the point at which it will be passed. So it is that I would suggest to the Minister that even at this late stage it's not too late. If we're going to do the urgent thing we might as well really do it properly and let's be as urgent as possible about it if that seems to be the mood of the House overall even if not on this side in terms of the extremeness of the urgency. Well having passed it and having bypassed the ability ourselves to sort of cut ourselves off at the knees in terms of having a reasonable process for the scrutiny of the thing then we might as well have it applying as soon as reasonably possible—which I would suggest is tomorrow.Mr Brownlee makes a good point about the availability of the Governor-General to sign things into law. I can confirm—having worked in the viceregal household admittedly a couple of Governors-General ago—these things can be pretty easily managed particularly if the aide-de-camp is so efficient at taking faxes off hotel reception as at least one was in the distant past.So anyway that's as to date regarding all the exceptions except for sections 15 and 16 but as for those two I suppose that it's possible that certain arrangements have to be made in relation to the party secretary living in New Zealand. But nearly four months seems pretty generous for that and I don't know what sorts of arrangements need to be made; a sort of pretty grand way of saying that you've got to sort of live here or you don't. I suppose a board might be expected to re-designate someone else or sort of appoint someone. But four months to do that in the context of something that's supposedly so urgent that we can't take more than 24 hours to consider it from start to finish does seem pretty luxurious or at least not in keeping with the extent of urgency which we've seen passing the substantive parts of it.As for the Facebook ads well I sort of do take the point that it might be that a little bit of lag time is needed for advertising that's already booked and locked in. But really nearly four months to allow an advertising campaign to run through—I'm pretty confident that there will be a lot more political issues that we can criticise the Government about between now and 1 April. We'll be rebooking ads no doubt and for New Zealanders too who want to be participating in the electoral process and the Government as well to be fair you know they'll have their own particular issues that they want to promote. I expect that there probably won't be a lot of ads that are still running then that are running now that can have this sort of no man's land of being unaddressed and unnamed with the true name as the legislation says. So I wonder if we could sort of have a bit of a shorter period on that one maybe encourage people to unbook the ads if they're offensive—or actually really just simply add a name and address because that's the only requirement that's changing that's the only sort of operative bit within the legislation to bring it in line. I won't go back into that detail because we've talked about the fact that it will bring into line the online world with the non-online world and that's sort of a worthwhile thing but it shouldn't take so long in an online environment which among its virtues is so quick to react and can be. So we would suggest that there's no reason that that couldn't come into force much sooner than 1 April 2020 seeing as we're doing this thing with such indecent haste in the first place.Clause 1 agreed to.Clause 2 agreed to.Clause 3 agreed to.House resumed.The Chairperson reported the Electoral Amendment Bill (No 2) without amendment.Report adopted."