Eagle PaulPAUL EAGLE (Labour—Rongotai): Thank you Madam Speaker. It's a pleasure to take some time to talk about this the Ombudsmen (Protection of Name) Amendment Bill. It was brought through the hard-working Governance and Administration Committee which I am a member of. Fletcher Tabuteau: Cry me a river. PAUL EAGLE: A proud member of course Mr Tabuteau. But I want to just say that I think the heart of this was around public confidence and I guess that whilst we may have been led to believe that this was maybe time-wasting or going down a track where we were simply filling up time it's important to get this right. It's interesting that the term judge" was used as a comparison because that's exactly why we wanted to clarify it in terms of making sure that for anyone hoping to attach such a name to their operation—entity or an individual—there was some clarity around that. Certainly I remember during the submissions process we had several people come in and just talk about their views. We had people who referred to different terms even around the gender aspect of the name "ombudsmen/man". So even that was debated where we were able just to get some clarity on that as a word have a look at the global context for that term and then also pick apart the context of those who are using it in Aotearoa New Zealand. So that term and particularly being led by those obviously that are holding the name now came through. Then we were able to make a decision on saying "Look here's what we have now."So we heard the Minister the Hon Andrew Little talk about that in terms of keeping those who have it now let's keep that and they gave some very good reasons why. But anyone new or anyone wishing to tag it on—and if I just reflect globally again there were several some humorous additions for different sectors where people had put the name "ombudsmen" on to the name of the individual or given it some credibility and therefore led the public to believe that that entity or that role had probably more I don't know jurisdiction maybe or more status more mana than the role really should have had. That's why I think—going back to what I said at the start in terms of upholding public confidence and why the Governance and Administration Committee spent some time looking at that and the formation of this bill. We also look at it in terms of the coalition Government's position. We look at the prohibition—and just to reinforce that it is to prevent the risk of proliferation. So I'm glad that that was debated teased out and sorted. Also in terms of setting precedent—and the example was the term "Anzac" and again public confidence and trust in what the word is attached to. We clarified that. Also we talked about the uniqueness of the constitutional role in New Zealand that Ombudsmen hold—Hon David Bennett: Mate you're going to do a speech on this? PAUL EAGLE: —that's right—and we need to ensure that the significance of that is not undermined by the confusion. So I'm certainly proud that that was talked to too. We amend the 1975 Act that's in place and sort that out and we went through that on the select committee too. Of course I've mentioned too around those who have got the existing—the name that's been tagged to now the Banking Ombudsman's one. She certainly does a great job and came in and talked through her reasons and the Insurance and Financial Services Ombudsman too. So currently permitted and they will continue to be used by those two entities. Finally just the protection of the right of the Financial Services Complaints Ltd [Interruption]—I commend this bill to the House. Kia ora."