Webb DuncanDr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour—Christchurch Central): Tēnā koe Madam Speaker. Always a pleasure to stand up when the Māori Party chooses not to and here we are on housing. There's not many issues that are more important to Māori than housing. But don't worry we've got a great Māori caucus that's out around the country telling the country what we're doing including the papakāinga housing project.Isn't it funny that the National Party is saying that we're not doing enough when this is just one of a huge raft of things we're doing around housing whilst they sat on their hands for nine years. What did they do? Sell State housing and here we are at last. We've got more building consents being issued more houses being built than we ever have had before and what do they say? That we're not doing enough. We're reforming the Resource Management Act to make sure we build more houses and what do they say? We're not doing enough. We're doing so much more than they ever did and we've turned the corner. So that's fantastic.This is actually a really good piece of legislation because you know what? It gives the ability to build houses more effectively more efficiently higher quality and at lower cost. I'm actually really excited about the prospect of modular buildings because we know that our traditional system of turning up on a building site digging some holes for our piles putting up our beams and our platform on top of that and off we go until we get to the roof and close it in—it's slow and it's laborious. And we also know that the compliance around it can be a little clunky too. We know that the number of building inspections is a lot and they're costly and they can delay. But the modular building framework means that whole chunks and entire buildings can be built offsite in an audited situation and they won't need to be consented. They're given deemed consents. So you can basically plug them in arrange the plumbing get that consented and away you go. So that's really really good. I must say funnily enough and Madam Speaker from earlier in the day will know this I was on the Environment Committee when this bill was first introduced. The submissions there were actually really interesting because we had a number of submissions from people who had innovative building materials and one of the challenges they had was the time and cost to get those building materials certified. So the other thing that this bill does—a very important thing—is to clarify and streamline the certification process for building materials so that we can have better innovation around building materials. We have a whole lot of people in New Zealand and New Zealand's conditions are a little different. As Julie Anne Genter said our houses aren't always of the best quality but we want to capture that New Zealand innovation so that rather than spending two years and $200000 trying to get a cladding certified or some other part of a building structure certified it can be done a lot more effectively. Of course the other thing—and I listened with interest having just put a new tap into my kitchen—that I might now go and look a bit more closely—Kieran McAnulty: Tell us about that!Dr DUNCAN WEBB: Well I thought it was really interesting: the question about lead componentry in taps that the Green member was talking about because that is a real issue about the descriptions of building products and there are no standards around how information is to be given to consumers builders and so on about building products. So it's really important that we have the ability to say that safety is paramount. We need to know what these building products can be used for and how what their proper applications are because one of the problems is that people pick up building materials intended to be used in a very particular manner and they use them in a different manner. I'm not going to talk about the James Hardie case but we know that there's a discussion there about whether the fault was due to the material or the fact that it was used in an inappropriate way or an appropriate manner. That's a genuine discussion that goes on all the time when we have some kind of defects in our buildings. So the need to provide information in a routine manner in a proper manner—that's really important so that people can follow the instructions understand the nature of the product how good it is. And of course then we've got some enforcement—a bit more teeth. Always good to have a bit more teeth because making sure that these things are done properly and having an ability to follow up is really really important. So here we go talking for the Māori Party again on something that I would have thought is close to their heart but they've chosen not to turn up to speak about this today. Kia ora Madam Speaker.