Menéndez March Ricardo; Robertson GrantRICARDO MENÉNDEZ MARCH (Green): Thank you Madam Chair. So yeah I just wanted to acknowledge the contributions regarding the questions about whether it should be mandatory or otherwise. But I wanted to focus on I guess as I alluded to in my previous speech the challenges that our different sports bodies and governing bodies have in terms of having fit-for-purpose policies around e-sports and I want to acknowledge the bodies in New Zealand who engaged in the creation of this bill. But I guess I wanted to get a reflection from the Minister for Sport and Recreation in terms of how we can ensure that we make this bill work for that scene when there are the broader challenges both in terms of very new frequent changes to the scene—and it's a new scene and the challenges they have in anti-doping are unique right? So I guess I just wanted to get a reflection from the Minister regarding how we make this bill work for the e-sports scene.Secondly I guess I wanted to get a reflection from the Minister as well regarding what he would say I guess to—we had commentary from rainbow peoples and submitters who talked about the need for greater consultation and engagement and who are often feeling under attack often by misinformation in these sorts of debates. So I guess I would like a reflection from the Minister regarding how he thinks this bill will further enhance the rights of rainbow people of gender diverse people women and gender minorities as well. Thank you.Hon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister for Sport and Recreation): I thank the member Ricardo Menéndez March and I also want to add to other colleagues thanking the member for his contribution as the bill has gone through the Social Services and Community Committee and indeed on the last point that he's raised—the changes Mr Woodhouse alluded to earlier—on the definitional section around rainbow people and then also in the consultation on codes and the seeking of views in terms of the establishment of the commission.I think it's a real step forward for us that this piece of legislation identifies groups that have been marginalised in the sporting and recreation sector and very sadly have been the recipients of bullying of harassment—people who haven't always felt that there was a pathway for them. I think what we're setting out here now is not just that pathway for them but a requirement on the commission to do the right thing and to be there and to listen and to bring that into their work.Just if the Chair will indulge me just very briefly one of the amazing things about the last three weeks with the FIFA Women's World Cup has been to not only go to the events but all the talk around the community about sport. And of course as somebody who loves sport for me it's amazing and I've always felt that sport has this extraordinary ability to bring communities together.I've equally thought that if we exclude people that means then they're not part of our community so when we're having this moment and we're having this celebration if some people feel excluded from it then we're letting them down and actually it's undermining the strength of our communities. And so what I feel this bill does—and again I thank the select committee for their work to enhance this—is it really does provide a template on consultation but also on the way in which they establish themselves to be truly open to hearing about everybody's experience and how we can make that better.So you know I think this bill will take a bit of work to get into full practice. It will require a very proactive effort. It will require making sure that the members of the commission—and that's covered in clause 11 of the bill—are able to take that on. It's a big job—it requires the ability to understand law and children's rights and the different communities that we have—but I think that's the right thing to do to be ambitious about how that will work.And as I say there's some good templates out there not just overseas but also the work that Drug Free Sport New Zealand has done. I think we can learn a lot from that and they are being incorporated into what we do here. So you know it will require a lot of work. It's proactive but it's written down in the bill and that to me gives me confidence it'll happen.