8. Schools Buildings—Funding and TimingCHRIS HIPKINS (Labour—Rimutaka) to the Associate Minister of EducationSchools Buildings—Funding and Timing8. CHRIS HIPKINS (Labour—Rimutaka) to the Associate Minister of Education: What is the total number of schools that have been identified as requiring significant property assistance that could not be met from their direct 5-year agreement funding allocation and how many of those schools have received assistance to date?Hon NIKKI KAYE (Associate Minister of Education): I have defined significant property assistance" as those undergoing major redevelopments those in the Christchurch schools rebuild programme and those receiving weathertightness funding. I am advised that all of these schools add up to 926. In terms of those that have received assistance I am advised that all have received some form of assistance. In terms of the Christchurch schools rebuild programme of the 115 the plan is publicly available and they are in some form of either construction or being delivered or in design. In terms of the major redevelopment programmes a number have been delivered or in design and construction. In terms of the weathertightness programme of the 840 I am advised the majority are being delivered. There is a group for which we are undertaking further inspections and working with the school to determine the appropriate remedial works.Chris Hipkins: How much was the fiscal gap between forecast school infrastructure spend over the next 10 years and the needs identified as calculated by officials back in 2014 and why 3 years later does she continue to refuse to release that information?Hon NIKKI KAYE: I am not sure what report the member is referring to but what I can say to the member is that we have now done condition assessments of every school in New Zealand which we did not have under the last Labour Government. What I can say to the member is that that has told us the scale of the issue and we have undertaken a range of programmes that we have funded to deal with those issues. We have spent over $400 million on weathertightness. We have now spent over half a billion on major redevelopments. We have spent hundreds of millions on growth. The other way that I would answer the question is that I am confident that with all of the programmes and funding that we have put in place we will be able to address the legacy issues separate to the 5-yearly agreement (5YA) funding.Chris Hipkins: Based on those condition assessments what is the difference between the total cost of the work required and the current forecast expenditure? Hon NIKKI KAYE: I think I have already answered that in my previous answer. What I have said is we have 5YA funding and we now have a range of pots of funding that we are confident will address those major legacy issues from weathertightness—also earthquake strengthening—to some of the roll growth issues that we have got on top of 5YA. So I am confident that with our forecast expenditure over a period of time and what we have spent already we will be able to address those legacy issues.Chris Hipkins: Based on that information how long will it be before those 926 schools are brought up to standard? Hon NIKKI KAYE: It varies depending on the programme and I would just encourage the member to get up to speed with some of our programmes. The Christchurch schools rebuild (CSR) programme is a 10-year publicly available document—that is that plan. In terms of the major redevelopments I would have to go and check but as I have said they are all funded so it just depends how long they take. Some of them—for instance Western Springs College—will take a number of years. In terms of the leaky building programme I think I have already answered a parliamentary question to the member previously in I think—not that I am remembering my parliamentary questions for several years—2016 which said it was a 6-year programme. Chris Hipkins: What is the latest date that she expects the 18 percent of schools that have been identified as "poor" or "very poor" in their condition to be brought up to standard? Hon NIKKI KAYE: Again I would have to go and check the definitions that he is using but on the three programmes that I have mentioned you know the leaky building project was 6 years as of 2016 the CSR programme was 10 years and the major redevelopments programme I would expect would not be any longer than 6 years. Chris Hipkins: Is she saying that within 6 years all schools that have been identified as below standard will be brought up to standard?Hon NIKKI KAYE: Sorry I could not actually hear his—Mr SPEAKER: I will ask for the question to be repeated.Chris Hipkins: Is she saying that within 6 years all of those schools that have been identified as below standard will be brought up to standard?Hon NIKKI KAYE: I have to go and check the exact dates of the programmes and I would want to check the exact dates of some of those redevelopments because some of them have not started yet but it is my expectation—and I will go and check—that it would be between 6 to 8 years that we would have those three programmes delivered."