Simmonds PennyPENNY SIMMONDS (National—Invercargill): Thank you Madam Speaker. I would like to start by saying what a disgraceful and disrespectful display it was from the Minister in her opening speech with her personal attack on National's health spokesperson Dr Shane Reti—Dr Reti who has such credibility as a medical practitioner such credibility as a medical researcher and such commitment to the health of Māori and all New Zealanders. For this Minister to have spent her time personally attacking him for trying to work in a bipartisan way to make this bill much better and much more effective was arrogant and shame on her. It reflects very badly on her.National I want to reiterate [Interruption]—ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): Order! Tone it down—bring it down. PENNY SIMMONDS: I want to reiterate that National absolutely supports a smoke-free agenda and we are proud to have established the 2025 smoke-free target. But this bill will not get to that target. It won't get there because it doesn't follow the science and it doesn't follow the international research. The Minister even confirmed that when she said that the first initiative of reducing the number of outlets had much uncertainty to it but it was the easiest one to do. It was the easiest one for this Government to do to virtue signal and to make an announcement but don't worry too much about whether it's going to work or not. And that is this Government to a tee.So Dr Shane Reti tried to do the work to make this bill more effective to try and get to those targets. One of the earlier Government speakers said National wouldn't do anything. Well how they could accuse National of not being prepared to do anything when Dr Shane Reti came up with the Supplementary Order Papers that would have given this bill a chance of being effective—he picked up on the international research that was going to be the most effective part of it. He urged this Government to pick up on putting the schedule away and relooking at the ways in which it might have been more effective and cause less harm. But the thanks he got was a personal attack from a Minister on somebody who has such integrity—Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall: Does he?PENNY SIMMONDS: —and it will come back to haunt her. Well that's a very big call for the Minister to be doubting another member of Parliament's integrity. So it's disingenuous of this Minister to have been so scathing of Dr Reti when he sought to improve this bill he sought to make it more effective he sought to give it a chance of meeting the targets that we agree with but she turned her back on any sort of bipartisan work on this bill and she chose instead to mock him.So we have in full flight the arrogance of this Government: the fact that they know best that they were prepared to ignore Local Government New Zealand and the laws that they had passed trying to regulate the sale of vaping products. They told the local authorities that they didn't know what they were doing. This Minister knows best she knows all. The local government councils can just take a running jump. She will do what she likes in their community. She told the community dairies and small businesses that again she doesn't care what happens to them. She cares much more about her virtue-signalling announcement that will give her a bit of airtime in the media. She doesn't care how much she kicks those small business owners when they are down.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): The member's time has expired. Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Tēnā koe e te Pīka. Tēnā tātou e te Whare. ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): Order! Order! Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: It's a very very loud Whare this evening. I rise on behalf of Te Paati Māori to speak to the third reading.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): Debbie Ngarewa-Packer—five-minute call.