O'Connor Greg; Williams PotoGREG O'CONNOR (Labour—Ōhāriu): Thank you Madam Assistant Speaker. I rise to support this bill. This is a bill that I and I'm sure many here when they contemplated coming to this place—this is the type of legislation that we believed we'd be here passing: meaningful life-changing legislation.It's quite interesting how the debate has gone to Better Public Services. In fact while we're talking about Better Public Services the very difference with the way this bill is formulated is that it's making us account here as to how this will be achieved. Better Public Services of course is about us imposing what we believe should be done—prescribing to public servants what should be done. Of course those of us with a knowledge of the public sector know that you will get exactly what you want and we're very conscious that over the next several years the gaps—as public servants gave Government what they wanted and were forced to ignore the important long-term strategies then those things that were ignored are the very things that are going to bite us on our proverbial backsides over the next few years. So what this bill does is introduce targets. It is a broad target that we here now through the Budget through the processes will be forced to look at in terms of how what we're doing is going to impact on those most vulnerable in New Zealand.In my maiden speech I spoke of being an undercover police officer and being introduced to a side of society—I hope this is not unparliamentary Madam Assistant Speaker: I regard myself as very much a lucky sperma". That's someone who was born into a loving home; someone who had warmth safety and education; and someone who was well fed. When I met people who didn't have those things—people who were born without those advantages who were smarter than me who were cleverer than me—what I understood was they were never going to be in a position to achieve what I achieved for that very reason. So when I look at this bill what I look at is that by ensuring that we all understand what the end result is—as we spell it out in the bill what we want is to ensure that we know what we are looking at. So when we ask for example that a budgetary statement be made that it be mentioned and that those who are going to be overseeing this are required to account on a broad measure we understand what will succeed and what success will look like.One of the issues in the past when we sought to define what poverty is—I remember a lawyer who said in court when the question of poverty came up "Well poverty is crooked teeth and no musical instrument." I think we've gone a little bit beyond that. I think we need to understand just what poverty is and poverty is—as I went back—a lack of those things; a lack of ability to see your way out of the circumstances of your birth. I go back to that term I used—that our "lucky sperm" puts us in a situation that means that we are more likely to be a successful member of our society than those others who don't have that same luck.So I commend this bill. I believe that it is a change in that whole focus that we as a House—this is forcing us to be accountable ourselves for what we achieve so I commend this bill. Thank you Madam Assistant Speaker.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): I call Denise Lee—five minutes."