Jackson WillieHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour): Thank you Madam Speaker. So it's all on Mr James Meager is it? It's all on Mr James Meager. The future of Māori is all on Mr Meager. I would have backed Tama Potaka before Mr Meager. But you see this is the problem. This is the problem—this is a good kōrero. This is a good kōrero because it puts the question up: can you be Māori and be strongly Māori within these mainstream parties?And this is the problem you know Māoridom debate because Mr Meager over there he's not the first brown hope in terms of Māori politics. I think the first one might have been Mr Winston Peters some years ago who was going to carry Māori aspirations hopes and dreams. Then we had my very good brother Mr John Tamihere come along and John of course was the hope and was carrying all the aspirations for Māori you know. And of course in those days John was very much into you know We are the world" and had interviews with the New Zealand flag in front of him. And you know it wasn't until he actually lost the Auckland mayoralty that he sort of turned to the other side eh Rawiri? Now of course my brother's got a different sort of strategy. And then of course we've had Mr Shane Jones Peeni Henare's uncle who was another great brown hope. And I say this because this is what this brings. And what happens is you get successful and you do a lovely great maiden speech and all the Pākehā media adore you and you think you are the great brown hope and you're going to carry Māori aspirations and you are the one. You are the one so you believe that you can deliver within the system.This bill is so important—and I support my colleague Arena—because it gives our people the opportunity to be strongly Māori all the time. That's the question—that's the question. Can you advocate in a kaupapa Māori sense within the current system? And I say you can sometimes and then you can't most of the time like Mr Meager over there and sadly my good friend Tama Potaka who's going through all those dilemmas because he's got all the background all the training but he's got this conflict because he's got a dirty rotten filthy party who want to—ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Jenny Salesa): Order! Order!Hon WILLIE JACKSON: It's just a view Madam Speaker.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Jenny Salesa): The member has spoken for about three minutes.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: He's got a party that is pushing against Māori aspirations Madam Speaker and so this bill gives Māori members the opportunity to be Māori and that's why we entrenched this bill so that you can stand for a Māori seat and push those aspirations—as my good friend Peeni Henare has done for a number of years as Rawiri Waititi does in the Waiariki as Cushla Tangaere does on the East Coast—and not worry about upsetting some of your redneck friends or not worry about—who's David Seymour's think commission? You don't worry about upsetting the Atlas group who are supporting the ACT Party. You don't have to worry about that. This bill is incredibly important because it allows our people to be pro-Māori and to advocate kaupapa Māori all the time. And I mihi to Rino Tirikatene-Sullivan for his bravery and our candidate—our MP here—Arena Williams because it takes some courage. Democracy's a funny thing. You know it changes all the time. When Māoris talk about it we get accused of trying to change democracy. When David Seymour and Mr Goldsmith come to a deal oh well that's just New Zealand today. But they're doing a deal on behalf of Epsom; there are deals being done all the time in terms of democracy. This bill gives us an opportunity to really bring in a new type of democracy and I absolutely tautoko this bill.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Jenny Salesa): Before I call the next speaker democracy is indeed really important but when we're debating a bill we need to actually be consistent with what the bill is about and not use words that might bring the House into disrepute and you know might actually assist members of each side of the House to throw words against each other. Thank you Hon Willie Jackson. Can I just check: is there another call before we close this bill out?Arena Williams: No we're at call 11.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Jenny Salesa): I think there is another call. I'm sorry Arena."