Prime Willow-JeanHon WILLOW-JEAN PRIME (Labour): Thank you Mr Speaker for this opportunity to take a short call on the Budget debate. I want to agree with the previous contribution from our finance spokesperson the Hon Barbara Edmonds who said that Budgets are about choices and I have to seriously question this Government's choices. This Government has chosen to prioritise tax breaks for landlords over our most vulnerable children and their families.In the five minutes available to me I want to focus on the budget for Oranga Tamariki. I think this is a shameful Budget. The Minister for Children should be ashamed. Instead she said she was proud of finding over $320 million cost savings from the back office within Oranga Tamariki. Well let me tell you what those cost savings actually mean to the care and protection of our most vulnerable children and their families. The Minister of Finance required the Minister for Children to find 6.5 percent cost savings. So in order to achieve that they first and foremost looked at restructuring the organisation of Oranga Tamariki. That has resulted in 419 jobs being cut from Oranga Tamariki. That is about 9 percent of the organisation but that is 25 to 30 percent of the back office.We are going to see the impacts of those back-office cuts—I dispute they are all back-office jobs—on the front line. You are asking less people to do more work and those who are going to suffer as a result of this will be the children and families who need our support and protection most. It has been described as back office low-value spending or wasteful spending.The next one I want to move on to is $30 million a year being cut from contracts for services for services in the community. Community providers are providing services to our most vulnerable children and families. Now in the hearing that we had during scrutiny week we heard from the CEO of Oranga Tamariki who said he wanted to make it very clear that there is just not enough money to meet the needs that they see every day—there is just not. So why did the Minister for Children not go back to the Minister of Finance and say it would be irresponsible to find 6.5 percent savings when this is what her CEO is saying? She nodded and agreed with it in the hearings and here we are $320 million being saved within Oranga Tamariki.Now that $30 million a year that they are cutting from community providers are services on the front line. A reporter has rung over 150 community organisations. They had their contracts expire on 30 June. They are still waiting—still waiting—for Oranga Tamariki to confirm whether they will have contracts to continue the services that they provide whether they will be buried or whether they will be terminated.Now in scrutiny week it was very clear: they said that this would be sorted by 1 July. Well it is 23 July and this has still not been sorted. It has been described by the media as a shambolic process and I would have to agree with them.I want to move on to the $29 million that they boast about for their investment into youth justice. It's an investment into boot camps. That's their solution rangatahi and others that might be listening today to youth justice. They are investing over $5 million into a pilot programme for 10 young people to send them to a boot camp experiment which evidence shows has failed in the past. It is an expensive experiment and that money could be better spent in providers that I visited during the recess like Kirikiriroa Family Services Trust or Ko Wai Au in Te Awamutu who said that they could do better work with our rangatahi and get better outcomes than a boot camp experiment that this Government is hell-bent on starting on Monday. This is a shameful Budget and the Minister for Children should have gone back to the Minister of Finance and said it would be irresponsible to cut 6.5 percent.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Teanau Tuiono): Before I take the next call could I ask members that are having fulsome chats to keep it down. If you want to keep engaging in different chats there are other spaces that you can do that in so that we can focus on the engagement in the House.