Eagle PaulPAUL EAGLE (Labour—Rongotai): Thank you Madam Speaker. This is an unexpected call to be given—to speak the Crimes (Child Exploitation Offences) Amendment Bill—but a good surprise and one that I'm pleased to speak on.I want to acknowledge my colleague Ginny Andersen. This as we've heard for the last few hours has been an excellent piece of work lead by herself and the Justice Committee which she chairs. I had the fortune of working with Ginny in the New Zealand Police service well over a decade ago now. We worked on many things but one of Ginny's great skills was to work on policy and to get things right and to look at the detail. This comes as no surprise to me knowing Ginny like I do.It's also been noted that it's come with the full support of the House so I really want to say congratulations. That must be rare for the select committee—common on select committees that I'm on in terms of the Māori Affairs Committee for example—but I think it's good if we can reach this point. Well done to members from across the House. We've heard that the advisers were great too in terms of getting those technical aspects worked through.Ginny was inspired by her children and I guess the potential harm. I know that many MPs will have stories from their constituents from their family lives and I'm no different. I'm father to a seven-year-old and his knowledge of the device is impeccable—better than mine. He will know how to change the password very soon but I don't want him to get to that just yet. Like many other parents of young people young children it's what they're connecting to which is of concern. I hear many noises and all sorts coming out of that little iPad and the Nintendo Switch and so I regularly check when I'm home or on the weekends and think what is going on here? It looks innocent but how would I know?" I sometimes say.What I do know and what's been said by others is that we are in the digital age and we are having to bring ourselves to confront digital communication. For some of us it's a bit more difficult than others. It's been interesting. I've been attending prize-givings across the electorate lately those that I can get to and it's of no surprise that this has come up. When I was interviewing for my Youth MP this year this very question came up—how do we manage I guess the child exploitation and the abuse online at that very young age and grooming resulting in sexual abuse and what is the mechanism for containing this? This bill goes a long long way to doing this.The last speaker raised a good point from one aspect and that is he mentioned the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. I more like to refer to this as there's a challenge there now to communicate this bill to the very people who can make the difference and to paint the consequences early to let people know that this is the law this is what is unacceptable and this is what you can do about it if you are going through this and you are experiencing this but as we've heard you may not know or you may have an inner belief that everything is absolutely OK until you reach a time when it is not.I was reading an article from the Wanganui Chronicle. I just went through some of the quotes and some of those had things like "'I had eventually worked out just what happened to me.' 'I had been heavily groomed and brainwashed. I didn't understand that it was sexual abuse—in my mind it was a "relationship".' Looking back she can see how easily she fell into it." In this particular story it mentions "following the dream". When I just had a brief look at some of these examples I thought too often we can be consumed into "the dream". I know that looking at this bill it will go some way to ensuring that we protect New Zealand children from that harm.The other interesting aspect was mention of a survey in partnership between NetSafe and the Ministry for Women of the experiences from teenagers with online risk. It talked about as a previous speaker has said nearly 19 percent of teens surveyed experienced an unwanted digital communication. I think it's probably more than that because a couple of the words I had come to write down as I was preparing for this was the "stigma" and the "shame". I really hope that this bill goes some way to addressing the stigma and shame of this and the inability to articulate what is happening and to tell those who are close to you. Interesting again in this article again it talks about "There were times when I really wanted to share it with my best friend but I told no one."So there's proof there from several stories that these issues come with the stigma come with the shame and so it's vital that that communication of this member's bill is articulated at the right people. That's of course parents but also those—I mean maybe it's an online messaging campaign. If NetSafe have worked with the Ministry for Women maybe that's a good place to start in terms of saying that once this has been adopted then the communication plan for this is just as vital. I think that's what the previous speaker was saying.I know too there has been previous talk already that the select committee had replaced the two offences with one single one. I think that's a great idea. That's the value of having a select committee look at this and undertaking a process where I think the number was 25 people submitted. I know that there would have been more. I know that when I talked to others about what the member Ginny Andersen was working on I always got the "Oh I would have submitted on that too." Six came in I think—yep six—and good on them. As I've said I've talked about the stigma and shame; I think it's great that people have I guess the guts to say that this is so important I'm going to come in and talk about it.There is much more I would like to say but what has been said has been said by my colleagues from across the House. I want to reiterate the great work and support of those who have supported the member Ginny Andersen in making sure that this bill is robust that it's relevant and that it has the necessary impact to make the change for those little people of society and in our lives. I commend this bill to the house.Motion agreed to.Bill read a second time."