Andersen GinnyVIRGINIA ANDERSEN (Labour): It's always good to start off a debate with a real story about real people's lives and just last weekend I was holding a street corner meeting in Hutt South. It did happen to be raining but even though it was raining people still came out. Even more interesting than the fact that people came out in the rain was that one of them self-confessed that they were a previous National voter. They came out in the rain on a cold Sunday afternoon to say thank you—to say Thank you for the winter energy payment." That person was over 65 and that person had struggled in the years before in paying their heating bill over those winter months. They said that even though they had voted National in the past they were so grateful for having a Government that actually put people first and started caring about people. That pretty much sums up the state of the current National Party—that you've got former National voters coming out in the rain to say thank you to a Government who actually cares about people and their well-being.We have a Government who is putting people first. And people are reminded of what they might have got under a National Government when you hear sterling comments from Alastair Scott the associate member for finance that Government shouldn't own schools; not only that but they shouldn't own roads—not even the tarmac we shouldn't own the tarmac; we'd like to privatise tarmac—and furthermore we shouldn't be owning hospitals. Asked if Wairarapa Hospital should be sold or not the member replied that he hadn't thought about it. So at this point it's always quite good to do a bit of compare and contrast and I just so happen to have the other example sitting quite handy and his name is Kieran McAnulty. He's the Labour list person based in Wairarapa. Just so you know the difference between the two Kieran McAnulty won't be selling Wairarapa Hospital that's his position whereas the other guy who lives in Wellington is not so sure what will happen with Wairarapa Hospital.Kieran McAnulty: Where does he live?VIRGINIA ANDERSEN: I think he lives in Wellington actually.So Labour has always delivered to the people who need it the most. Labour has always based itself on making sure that we have those people who need it getting the basics they need. Part of that is not just houses it's not just wages education and health; it's also about changing the culture of our organisations that provide basic services to people. It's so heartening to hear what the Minister for Social Development has delivered in terms of changing the culture within organisations like the Ministry of Social Development by giving people a place to get a drink to use a toilet for children to be able to play while their parents wait to get services. That's how you treat people—giving them the basics and giving people the respect and decency to get a good start and get on with their lives.But as well as doing those basic things that we'll be delivering for families—like the Best Start payment like the winter energy payment and by not giving tax cuts to the top 10 percent—we are also helping those families in the middle. It's those families in the $70000 to $100000 per household bracket that are better off under this Government. It's those families that also benefit in the middle. And when I'm standing outside the school gates talking with mums and dads who are often on one salary for the best for their kids when they've got two or three kids at school it's hard over winter. It's hard to pay the power bill it's hard to be able to run the car and do those things it's hard to be able to look after kids and buy those school uniforms and it's hard to be able to make things go over the time where people are needing the doctor more and power bills are going up over those cold months. So it is really good to see the changes happening in the Families Package that will help people in New Zealand in the middle that struggle as well and I'm proud to see this Government delivering those things.This is s a Government that delivers to people and the more we see those people receiving the benefits of this Government the more the shine goes off the National Party. We see that when we even hear Matthew Hooton saying that Simon Bridges should stay off Radio Hauraki. He's giving his own advice that that should be a good measure for him to make on Radio New Zealand—good advice there from Matthew Hooton. And all we can hear from the other side of the House is that the Better Public Services (BPS) targets are great. BPS targets were never even met. This is a Government who is delivering for people in real terms and it's about time that the Opposition realise we're on a winner."