Mitchell MarkHon MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney): Mr Chair I appreciate you accepting my call. To be honest with you Mr Chair I'm on House duty; I wasn't intending to speak to this bill. But I've been listening to the debate. And firstly I want to acknowledge Hamish Walker because he's a straight talker he speaks from the heart and he brought a great bill to this House that's going to address—we've heard some impassioned pleas in this House today earlier in the day in the general debate about Oranga Tamariki and the kids that we see going into Oranga Tamariki care and you know we should be focused on the kids. The fact of the matter is we've got 7000 children every year in our country in New Zealand that are stripped away of the right of actually having a KiwiSaver account. That's wrong. There's no downside to having a KiwiSaver account opened for a child to start providing the ability for them to have savings and for them to be able to support themselves later in life or even to have the ability to be able to access those KiwiSaver funds to get themselves into their first house. This is a good bill. Hamish Walker—I know Hamish. He's a man of integrity.Hon Member: I hope you do.Hon Member: He's a colleague.Hon MARK MITCHELL: Well it's not funny Labour Party I don't know. I haven't heard anyone take a call. I haven't seen—they're all over there laughing. Someone stand up and take a call. This is a serious matter. This is actually about 7000 kids that don't get access to a KiwiSaver account. So stand up and take a call. Tell us why you're not supporting the bill. Hamish Walker is a guy that actually when he shakes your hand when he looks you in the eye you can trust him. You can count on his word and you can see by his reaction in the Chamber today that actually New Zealand First—sadly he's realised that New Zealand First are not people of their word. They don't stand by their word. You had your Deputy Prime Minister the leader of New Zealand First on national media today. [Interruption] Look at their reaction. You can tell by their reaction how sensitive they are to it. It's a disgrace that they go on national media and they say We're supporting the bill."Darroch Ball: We are.Hon MARK MITCHELL: You're not. You're supporting the first part of the bill that affects 600 children—right? So the sponsor of the bill identified the fact that he needed to make a change to strengthen the bill to make sure that all 7000 kids were able to open a KiwiSaver account. Currently the way the bill is the part of the bill that you're going to support will mean that 600 children can get a KiwiSaver account. That's better—without a doubt that is better—but let's all agree in this House: wouldn't it be better for 7000 people to have access to that KiwiSaver care. Now I see the Minister for Children is in the Chamber. I'd like to see the Minister in charge of Oranga Tamariki stand and take a call and explain to us why—explain to this committee and explain to the 6300 kids out there that won't have a KiwiSaver account what the reason for that is. I can probably guess what the reason is: because the advisers have told her that there are issues around legal guardianship and it's all about the parents.Well you know what? Do what Hamish Walker's doing in not making it about the adults. He's actually making it about the kids. He's saying the adults have got it wrong they can't agree they're arguing the kids have had to be removed from house—hugely unsettling for them. It's difficult for them. He read a poem that was sent to him. If you listen to the poem it's from a young person—a young Kiwi that can't even understand why they can't get an account or some form of ID that means as a country we recognise they even exist. You all laugh. You all joke about it. It's not funny. It's not a joke. It's a serious bill. The Minister's in the Chamber. Stand up and take a call and tell us why New Zealand First—yep is supporting the guts of the bill; we acknowledge that we thank you for that. Why aren't you supporting his Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 258 because he as the sponsor of the bill has clearly told you there's a gap in the original bill? It's been identified. Six hundred kids will get an account—600 kids or 700 kids will get an account; there are 6300 that won't. We want to see them have a KiwiSaver account. There is no downside to that. So I invite New Zealand First or the Minister to stand and take a call and explain to all of us and the country why you're not going to support his SOP. Thank you very much Mr Chair."