Uffindell Sam; Parker DavidSAM UFFINDELL (National—Tauranga): Thank you Madam Chair. Just following on around the effect of certain nutrients on quality and ecosystems of freshwater and noting that in the current environment it's very hard to actually grow stuff in New Zealand because there are limits on that. You know we do have a cost of living crisis and we do have a what 20-odd percent increase in the cost of vegetables over the past 12 months. This isn't going to make it any easier. In fact it's going to make it more difficult to grow stuff. I just wanted to raise with the Minister the reality that in some places of New Zealand we take—there's a line that goes through around the Bombay Hills where you switch over into the Waikato Regional Council and the regulations they have around the nutrient usage is quite severe. What you're actually doing there is prohibiting growing in some of the most fertile areas in New Zealand where we have a cost of living crisis where fruit and vegetables are more expensive than they've been and where New Zealanders—what they actually need are lower prices and they need more fresh vegetables on their plate. So the reality of what this is going to do is make that more challenging. We have situations—you drive north of here a couple of hundred kilometres and people are actually growing there without consent because this Government is overburdening them with fresh water rules which make it impossible to grow. What we would like to see is a situation where we can move from doing what you're doing on your land—so there's a pyramid aspect at the moment and you can't move up that scheme. So you can't actually get up to growing vegetables and into the horticulture space because there are far too many regulations in that area. Is the Minister aware of that? Is the Minister aware that these regulations are going to make it harder to grow? Is the Minister aware that these regulations are going to make it more expensive for New Zealanders to eat fresh fruit and vegetables? Thank you.Hon DAVID PARKER (Minister for the Environment): I do find it frustrating when members don't pay attention to earlier contributions in the debate including in response to questions from their own members who know better than the member who just showed his ignorance. There are specific provisions in this bill that elevate vegetable growth. That also reflects what we as a Government have done to actually improve allowances for the likes of nutrient pollution coming from the growth of vegetables compared with other sectors—Simeon Brown: Nothing in this bill but carrots.Hon DAVID PARKER: What's that?Simeon Brown: What's the bill do for carrots?Hon DAVID PARKER: What does the bill do for carrots—that's the level of debate that we have from Simeon Brown. It's quite good to put that on the record. What it does is the provisions in this bill say that the interests of vegetable growing are very important to the health of New Zealanders and ought to be elevated. They are in this as we have done in respect of fresh water management matters where we have given exemptions to both Pukekohe and Horowhenua areas where the environmental limits could not be reasonably met without kerbing vegetable production. We thought that was wrong for the health of New Zealanders and the price of vegetables and so we gave them exemptions. That is carried forward in this legislation and if the member doesn't know that it's not my fault.