Upston LouiseHon LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupō): Thank you Madam Chair. I'm pleased to take a call on what is a very important piece of legislation the COVID-19 Response (Vaccinations) Legislation Bill. The Minister in charge Chris Hipkins referred to the fact that the Opposition has supported some of the COVID orders in the past. And I just want to put on record a couple of things. Firstly when the outbreak first occurred last year there were lots of elements that were unknown and the Opposition was very careful in carrying out its responsibility to support the Government as much as possible at a time of crisis when it was a national emergency to ensure that New Zealanders understood the importance of what was occurring. I think the difference in terms of where we stand here—and my colleagues on the Opposition benches at this point in time—is the fact that this is a Delta outbreak which of course the Government has known about for quite some time and had a lengthy period of time to plan and prepare for.So to be here on 23 November debating legislation under urgency that will have a significant impact on New Zealanders' rights and freedoms with zero opportunity for the public to be involved is quite abhorrent. That is why the Opposition will be ensuring that the voices of the public are brought into this Parliament if not by the Government—who in many peoples' view the fact that it is the first majority Government ever places a higher bar of responsibility on ensuring that power isn't abused. And in legislation like we are debating today there is a serious obligation—one that in my view and the view of the public the Labour Government is not discharging with any form of responsibility.So I've got a couple of questions—Dr Duncan Webb: Oh good!Hon LOUISE UPSTON: —for the Minister and I think the senior whip should be a little patient and shouldn't trivialise a debate in this House under urgency.Dr Duncan Webb: You're halfway through.Hon LOUISE UPSTON: I'm not clock watching and I suggest that that member doesn't because that member is trivialising every single person in the New Zealand population who has on multiple occasions contacted every member of Parliament and Opposition members—hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails thousands of people who have signed petitions shocked and disgusted at some of the decisions that the Labour Government is making and ramming through in Parliament tonight.So a couple of my questions one is reflecting on my colleague Chris Penk's comments that were related to the courts. I note clause 7 inserting new sections 11AA and 11AB which is all around orders in relation to specified work. And as the Opposition spokesperson for social development and employment I'm particularly concerned about those New Zealanders who have a range of challenges who have to interact with Government agencies one of which is the Ministry of Social Development. I have not seen any confirmation—I've not been reassured in any way shape or form that no New Zealander will be excluded from a Work and Income office if they are not vaccinated. I think these are the sorts of practical issues when we're passing legislation like this that New Zealanders want to be reassured about. So I'm specifically asking a question—actually I want a guarantee. I want a guarantee that no New Zealander will be excluded from a Work and Income site. As we know many people have had to interact online or by phone and for many people that is not the way they are most comfortable. So to be able to turn up to a Work and Income office—and many people have complex challenges that they want to discuss with someone face to face—I want an absolute reassurance and commitment from the Government—[Time expired]