Bennett DavidHon DAVID BENNETT (National): Thank you Madam Speaker. I'm glad that member Ibrahim Omer just mentioned the Transport and Infrastructure Committee because when we had the select committee hearing on this bill we had numerous submissions saying that it's not going to work it can't be done. That was what the submitters actually said The time frames will not work." The Minister of Transport came into the committee and deliberately overrode those submissions and said "We're doing it now we have to do it now. We will make it work." That was the Minister's exact attitude to the submitters. He ignored them. He said "No we know better. We'll get it done now." This Minister has failed completely in everything in transport. He has failed in this area where he overrode the submitters. He has failed in his walking and cycling bridge across the harbour which is one of the greatest failures in New Zealand political history. He's failed in cancelling all the roading projects of significance and then having to rebuild them. He's failed in his electric transport options for Auckland around light rail. He's failed in having speed limits of 70 kilometres or lower throughout the country. He is a failure and this is a failure.The other thing the submitters said—and this is what everybody here needs to understand—is that we are in the Japanese car market. We are not in the European car market. The European car market makes electric vehicles (EVs); the Japanese car market makes hybrids. In the Japanese-Australian car market the approach has been to reduce the emissions of the vehicle by the use of hybrids and better energy sources; it is not through the use of EVs. There's only 200000 EVs in the whole of Japan and that's where we get our vehicles. So when the Government talks about looking after low- and middle-income New Zealanders and making a change in our transport emissions remember we are going not in an EV market we are in a hybrid market—that is the New Zealand and Australian car makers. That was the other fundamental thing that the Minister ignored when all the car companies said that to him. He said "No no no we'll go for the EVs." And they'll go on and say "Oh look how many Teslas have come into the country in the last year." Well OK there has been an increase but it's a very small proportion of the actual cars that come in the country. And the reason you've had an increase is because you have given a tax deduction on it for people that can spend over 70 grand which are wealthy people in New Zealand. The actual real change if you were looking at doing something about the climate in New Zealand is looking at the Japanese-Australian car market where 90 percent of the cars that come into the country are from and that car market it is not an EV market; it is a hybrid market.Hon Michael Wood: You actually don't know how this works.Hon DAVID BENNETT: I do know how this works because that's exactly what the submitters said. The Minister says—he doesn't know how it works. The Minister overrode the submitters and said he knew better. And six months later we're in the House doing exactly what the submitters said. I know what happened in that committee: the Minister was arrogant and overrode the submitters. He's being arrogant again here today and saying people don't know how it works. So we're not—Hon Michael Wood: No no. Just the member—just the member doesn't know how it works.Hon DAVID BENNETT: Answer this answer me this Minister: are we in the Japanese-Australian car market for our manufacture of vehicles? Answer that.Hon Michael Wood: Yes and those vehicles are—Hon DAVID BENNETT: Yes. We are. I don't know what I'm talking about! How many EVs are there in Japan Minister? How many EVs in Japan? Answer the question.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Barbara Kuriger): Let's save the questions for committee stage. Debate is fine but no questions please Mr Bennett.Hon DAVID BENNETT: The arrogance of the Minister to come into here and to say that we don't understand. I asked him the one fundamental question that is about this bill and he said I was right. So Minister stand up and take a call. Don't get some junior Minister to come in and take your call because you don't want to have your name on this bill; actually come in here and do your job and admit your failings because you are the worst transport Minister ever. That has been shown time and time again and today is another example."