Woods MeganHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Labour—Wigram): Overnight world leaders including a representative of New Zealand in the form of our climate change Minister Simon Watts agreed that the world and the globe needs to have stronger carbon-cutting plans in place by 2025. That agreement—that global agreement came in the same week that our Climate Change Commission released its 2023 advice on the direction of policy for the Government's second emissions reduction plan.What that report says in a nutshell is that New Zealand will meet emissions budget 1 because there have been a series of policies put in place by a Government over the last six years which will mean we meet emissions budget 1 but emissions budgets 2 and 3 are going to require acceleration of some policies. And what is the response of our newly elected Government? It's to repeal measures that are doing the heavy lifting on removing emissions from our economy. What the risk report says is we have to do all those things that were planned and more but here's the rub for the Government because they signed up to legislation that says that you must produce emissions reduction plans and if you're going to take out measures that decrease emissions you have to replace it with measures that will make that up.So I am calling on those members that are barracking with their best climate denial sledges that we're hearing across this side of the House to actually front up and tell us what they are going to do to reduce emissions. Because what members opposite cannot avoid is that this was an incredibly successful scheme. We've heard it being described as a scheme in deficit. This is a scheme that was set to be self-funding in 10 years. It needed a $300 million upfront cost but its success is that it has overshot expectations and for all New Zealanders that is a win. Something I think those members and the seats opposite need to start realising is that unless New Zealand cuts its emissions we will have to go out and buy international credits of other nations and pay for their decarbonisation.Now on this side of the House we will back New Zealanders every day of the week and we will rather do that than pay other countries in their efforts to decarbonise. Drive Electric has put out in response to this measure some pretty good data around this measure that the Government is legislating today. It will result in between 100000 and 350000 fewer electric cars on New Zealand roads by 2030. And that is a significant problem in terms of the emissions reduction plan which the Government is now going to have to tell us in detail—down to megatons—what its substitutions are.Throughout the course of this debate we will be asking those questions. What are those substitutions going to be? If not this then what? And that is what the Government has to tell us because transport has some heavy lifting to do in emissions budget 2. Transport makes up half of our energy emissions and in order for us to meet the carbon reduction budgets that are in place our light vehicle fleet is absolutely critical to that.So I am going to look forward to over the course of this debate knowing what measures are being put in place to make up for the 900 to 3000 kilotonnes of carbon that is going to increase in our economy as a result of this measure. I note that the Minister won't release the regulatory impact statement and there's a reason and we will be asking questions about that during the course of this debate. It is being rushed through under urgency—no select committee process—and to make it even worse a Minister that is sitting on a regulatory impact statement. This will be an interesting debate.