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Logie Jan: Chamber Lobbies and Galleries — Feminists of the Year—Contestants 
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[Sitting date: 30 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2657. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
JAN LOGIE (Green) 
: 
 I have been fortunate in the last hour to be in my office with the feminists of the year contestants. They are in the gallery and I think this House would like the opportunity today to acknowledge them. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Could I perhaps suggest to the House that rather than see this practice continue indefinitely where members do wish to acknowledge visitors in the gallery perhaps the appropriate way to do it would be to seek the leave of the House. All members know they are not meant to refer to visitors in the gallery. If members wishing to do something like that were to seek the leave of the House to have such people acknowledged I think it would be a more appropriate way to go about it.
Smith Lockwood: Visitors — Serbia—Delegation National Assembly 
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Smith Lockwood: Visitors — Serbia—Delegation National Assembly 
[Sitting date: 30 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2657. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have much pleasure in informing the House that a delegation from the National Assembly of Serbia led by the Hon Vuk Jeremic Minister of Foreign Affairs is within the precincts of this Chamber. I am sure members would wish that the Minister be welcomed and accorded a seat on the left of the Chair and that the delegation in the Speaker’s gallery be welcomed. 
The Hon Vuk Jeremic accompanied by the Minister of Foreign Affairs entered the Chamber and took a seat on the left of the Chair.
Visitors — Serbia—Delegation National Assembly 
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Visitors — Serbia—Delegation National Assembly 
[Sitting date: 30 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2657. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Wednesday 30 May 2012 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
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Visitors 
Serbia—Delegation National Assembly 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have much pleasure in informing the House that a delegation from the National Assembly of Serbia led by the Hon Vuk Jeremic Minister of Foreign Affairs is within the precincts of this Chamber. I am sure members would wish that the Minister be welcomed and accorded a seat on the left of the Chair and that the delegation in the Speaker’s gallery be welcomed. 
The Hon Vuk Jeremic accompanied by the Minister of Foreign Affairs entered the Chamber and took a seat on the left of the Chair.
Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 10 to Minister 
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Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 10 to Minister 
[Sitting date: 30 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2711. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Amended Answers to Oral Questions 
Question No. 10 to Minister 
Hon HEKIA PARATA (Minister of Education) 
: 
 I seek leave to make a personal explanation. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There appears not. Leave is granted. 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: I would like to clarify an answer I gave to oral question No. 10 today. I was asked whether I had received a list and I replied no. My office did receive a list of schools affected by ratio changes as well as forecast roll growth. However this list was based on a different funding formula. Thank you.
Chamber Lobbies and Galleries — Feminists of the Year—Contestants 
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Chamber Lobbies and Galleries — Feminists of the Year—Contestants 
[Sitting date: 30 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2657. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Chamber Lobbies and Galleries 
Feminists of the Year—Contestants 
JAN LOGIE (Green) 
: 
 I have been fortunate in the last hour to be in my office with the feminists of the year contestants. They are in the gallery and I think this House would like the opportunity today to acknowledge them. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Could I perhaps suggest to the House that rather than see this practice continue indefinitely where members do wish to acknowledge visitors in the gallery perhaps the appropriate way to do it would be to seek the leave of the House. All members know they are not meant to refer to visitors in the gallery. If members wishing to do something like that were to seek the leave of the House to have such people acknowledged I think it would be a more appropriate way to go about it.
Vote: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2655. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 72 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 274 in the name of the Hon Craig Foss to Part 1 be agreed to. 
Amendment agreed to. 
Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Mitchell Mark: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — In Committee 
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Mitchell Mark: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2654. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Vote: Crown Entities Reform Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Crown Entities Reform Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2635. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Committee divide the bill into the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill the Mental Health Commission Amendment Bill and the Charities Amendment Bill pursuant to Supplementary Order Paper 30. 
Ayes 71 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
Bill to be reported with amendment presently.
Roy Eric: Budget Debate 
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Roy Eric: Budget Debate 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2632. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I call Andrew Williams. Is this a split call? Do you want a bell at 4 minutes?
Joyce Steven: Budget Debate 
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Joyce Steven: Budget Debate 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2635. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister for Economic Development) 
: 
 I move  
That this debate be now adjourned 
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Roy Eric: Budget Debate 
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Roy Eric: Budget Debate 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2598. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Order! The member’s time has expired.
Roy Eric: Budget Debate 
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Roy Eric: Budget Debate 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2595. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Before I call Tracey Martin this is to be a split call and New Zealand First can determine what proportion of the call goes each way.
Vote: Budget Debate 
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Vote: Budget Debate 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2635. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to.
Kaye Nikki: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — In Committee 
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Kaye Nikki: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2653. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
NIKKI KAYE (National—Auckland Central) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Yang Jian: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Yang Jian: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2580. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
12. 
Dr JIAN YANG (National) 
 to the  
Minister of Health 
: What progress was made in the latest quarter towards achieving the Government’s target for shorter stays in emergency departments? 
Hon TONY RYALL (Minister of Health) 
: 
 Great progress. In fact district health boards have achieved record success in the last quarter and are reporting that on average emergency departments admitted discharged or transferred 93 percent of patients within 6 hours. In fact 11 district health boards across the nation have now achieved or surpassed the Government’s 95 percent target. I would particularly like to congratulate the Wellington Regional Hospital which was at 67 percent in 2009 and is now at 87 percent a 5 percent improvement in the last quarter. This is a great result for a district health board that is buckling down and achieving better for patients.  
Dr Jian Yang 
: How do faster emergency departments help support the entire hospital? 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: An emergency department is a barometer for how well a whole hospital is working. When a patient is treated faster it means there is better access to important X-rays scans and beds. That is why this Government is supporting it further in Budget 2012 where we are investing an extra $16 million into new systems to ensure faster access to magnetic resonance imaging scans and CT scans and $4 million into a national register for patients treated for heart conditions to improve the quality of their care. In Budget 2012 this National Government is spending a record level on health—$14.12 billion—to protect and grow our public health services.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2579. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I seek leave to table a document to rebut the Prime Minister’s statement on evidence here.  
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! We need to know the source of the document.  
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: This document is under the Official Information Act and has been received by my office— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: From where though? 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: —on Whanau Ora funding and one page alone says $694000. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! We need to know the source of the document.  
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: The source is Te Puni Kokiri which I sought— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. [ 
Interruption 
] Order! Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Lee Melissa: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Lee Melissa: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2577. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
9. 
MELISSA LEE (National) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development 
: How does Budget 2012 assist Canterbury social services to support the rebuild of the city? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 Recognising the ongoing impact of the Canterbury earthquakes in Budget 2012 the Government is investing an additional $13 million over the next 2 years in social services for the Canterbury region. This is in addition to the $20 million already provided to non-government social service organisations since the first earthquake. The funding will continue to provide psychosocial support to those affected by the earthquakes and assist non-government social service organisations to coordinate these services and meet increased quake-related demand. 
Melissa Lee 
: How has the Government’s social investment supported Cantabrians to date? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: Since the earthquakes Canterbury social service providers have done an outstanding job in very difficult circumstances meeting the needs of the community. In the last 6 months this support has enabled over 6800 counselling sessions and the 0800 support and counselling line has received more than 14000 calls. The Government has helped with funding but these remarkable organisations on the ground are fundamentally making the difference.
Macindoe Tim: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Macindoe Tim: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2574. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
7. 
TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West) 
 to the  
Minister of Justice 
: What reports has she received on 2011 conviction and sentencing rates? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Justice) 
: 
 Conviction and sentencing statistics published today by the Ministry of Justice confirm that this Government’s approach to reducing crime is working. The conviction and sentencing statistics show fewer criminal charges being laid in court fewer people appearing in court more charges resulting in convictions and a decrease overall in serious and violent offences in the last 5 years. Since 2009 the total number of charges laid in court has dropped by 18 percent. That is over 60000 charges. 
Tim Macindoe 
: How does the reduction in the total number of charges being laid in courts deliver better public services in the justice sector? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS 
: Fewer people facing criminal charges means fewer cases clogging up our courts fewer people unnecessarily going to prison and fewer families disrupted. The new justice sector leadership enables the police corrections and justice departments to work together for the first time. Better public service targets are reducing total crime. Reducing youth crime and reducing reoffending are clearly in our sights. With less crime and fewer people entering the justice system agencies can focus on crime prevention modernising our court system and rehabilitating prisoners in order to reduce reoffending. 
Te Ururoa Flavell 
: Talofa lava Mr Speaker. Kia ora tatou. How will the Minister respond to the issue of huge sentencing inconsistencies as demonstrated by the excessive sentence handed down last week to Tame Iti and Te Rangikaiwhiria Kemara while 3 years ago a man found guilty of seven of eight charges of being in unlawful possession of two military-style semi-automatic rifles thunderflash explosives power gel explosives two military flares a smoke grenade a grenade launcher and an anti-personnel mine ended up being asked to pay $5000 to St John Ambulance? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS 
: It would be quite inappropriate for me to comment on the sentencing in a particular matter. That is a matter for the courts.
Parker David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Parker David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2573. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
5. 
Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
 to the  
Minister of Finance 
: What is the increase in government spending on New Zealand Superannuation from Budget 2011 to Budget 2012 and is this greater than the increase to Vote Education? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) 
: 
 Spending on New Zealand superannuation will increase from $8.83 billion in 2011 to $9.59 billion in 2012 an increase of $757 million. Government spending on Vote Education will increase from $9.02 billion in 2011 to a forecast $9.28 billion in 2012 an increase of $256 million. So the increase in New Zealand superannuation is larger. About half of the increase in New Zealand superannuation over the next 5 years is due to increases in the rate of New Zealand superannuation and the other half is due to the increase in the number of superannuitants. 
Hon David Parker 
: Does the projected monthly cost of superannuation increase to more than the total monthly cost of education including preschool primary secondary and tertiary education by the end of the 2016 financial year? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: I simply do not have the information to confirm that. 
Hon David Parker 
: Is the Minister telling the House that he does not know whether by the end of the 2016-17 year—within the projection period of his Budget he delivered last week—superannuation costs will exceed education costs every month? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: I am telling the member I simply do not have the information to give an accurate answer to that question.
Kaye Nikki: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Kaye Nikki: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2572. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
4. 
NIKKI KAYE (National—Auckland Central) 
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Minister of Science and Innovation 
: What actions has the Government taken to boost funding for science and innovation research? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Science and Innovation) 
: 
 Last Thursday’s Budget delivered further on this party’s 2000 election commitment to help build a more competitive and productive economy including $250 million of new operating funding and over $75 million in capital funding over 4 years for science innovation and research. We have continued to increase funding despite tight fiscal constraints because science and technological innovation are important drivers of New Zealand’s growth and international competitiveness. In fact total direct cross-portfolio science innovation and research funding has risen by 17 percent over the past 4 years to $1.24 billion in 2012-13. 
Nikki Kaye 
: What initiatives is the Government progressing as a result of these funding increases? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: We have allocated $90 million over 4 years in operating funding and $76 million in capital funding for the establishment of an Advanced Technology Institute to better link businesses with research and help create new high tech products and services. We have funded a further $60 million over 4 years for National Science Challenges to find innovative solutions to some of the most fundamental issues New Zealand faces. And in the tertiary education area we are increasing the size of the Performance-based Research Fund to $300 million by 2016. All this adds up to a very substantial commitment by the Government to the research and science sector in this country—far above anything a research and development tax credit would deliver.
Smith Lockwood: Chamber Lobbies and Galleries — Miss Universe New Zealand—Contestants 
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Smith Lockwood: Chamber Lobbies and Galleries — Miss Universe New Zealand—Contestants 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2567. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! The House will come to order. I am not sure how that is a point of order but either way it seems a very pleasant visitation for the House to have. I think I recognise the Wellington representative among them—a good surf lifesaver.
Williamson Maurice: Chamber Lobbies and Galleries — Miss Universe New Zealand—Contestants 
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Williamson Maurice: Chamber Lobbies and Galleries — Miss Universe New Zealand—Contestants 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2567. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (Minister for Building and Construction) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I have been fortunate in the last hour to have been in my office with the Miss Universe New Zealand contestants. They are in the gallery and I think this House would like to acknowledge them being here today. [ 
Interruption 
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Chamber Lobbies and Galleries — Miss Universe New Zealand—Contestants 
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Chamber Lobbies and Galleries — Miss Universe New Zealand—Contestants 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2567. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Tuesday 29 May 2012 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers. 
Chamber Lobbies and Galleries 
Miss Universe New Zealand—Contestants 
Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (Minister for Building and Construction) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I have been fortunate in the last hour to have been in my office with the Miss Universe New Zealand contestants. They are in the gallery and I think this House would like to acknowledge them being here today. [ 
Interruption 
]  
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! The House will come to order. I am not sure how that is a point of order but either way it seems a very pleasant visitation for the House to have. I think I recognise the Wellington representative among them—a good surf lifesaver.
Crown Entities Reform Bill — In Committee 
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Crown Entities Reform Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 29 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2635. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Crown Entities Reform Bill 
In Committee 
Debate resumed from 23 May. 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Committee divide the bill into the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill the Mental Health Commission Amendment Bill and the Charities Amendment Bill pursuant to Supplementary Order Paper 30. 
Ayes 71 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
Bill to be reported with amendment presently.
Lotu-Iiga Sam: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Lotu-Iiga Sam: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2458. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA (National—Maungakiekie) 
: 
 It is an honour to speak on this Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. I just want to bring the debate back to the bill and talk about the benefits of this bill. What this is is an omnibus bill. It deals with livestock valuation rules and the changes to those will bring about over $184 million over 4 years in savings. It will also remove three tax credits that are no longer fit for purpose which the Hon Peter Dunne has referred to and it cancels the student loan repayment incentive scheme which will save $12 million a year. So what does that mean? Well added up it equals $349 million over the next 4 years. That is right—$349 million over 4 years. And why is that important? Well it is important because it funds the early childhood education of our children. It is important because it will build new hospitals and new roads for those of us who want to get on with our lives. It is important because this Government is creating an environment and a framework for job growth for export growth and for opportunities. It is important because those people out there who want to work will work with some of our welfare reforms. So I support this bill because this bill actually provides for a better future for our children our communities and this country. I support this bill.
Vote: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Vote: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2473. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 1 be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Part 1 agreed to.
Yang Jian: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Yang Jian: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2471. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Dr JIAN YANG (National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Dunne Peter: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Dunne Peter: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2466. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon PETER DUNNE (Minister of Revenue) 
: 
 That contribution reminds me that I ought to reply to the New Zealand First member Tracey Martin who spoke earlier about the housekeeper and childcare rebate. For the benefit of the member in the Chamber—I gather she may now have the regulatory impact statement and will have read paragraphs 7 8 and 9 which set out the background fairly clearly—can I simply say this. The rebate was first put in place in 1933 in quite different social circumstances from today. The average claim on that rebate is now $263 per annum so it is not a huge money-spinner for the families who might have been making that claim. It is about $5 a week. The member who has just resumed her seat spoke about the cost of childcare. The $5-a-week subsidy has been in place in an environment where since 1933 a huge number of changes have been made with regard to the provision of childcare. For instance we now have 20 hours free we have $1.4 billion being expended in the childcare area by the Government each year. The rationale for the policy has long since ceased to be.  
With regard to the housekeeper claim it is worth making the point—for the benefit of the member—that there are a number of families with disabled children who currently use the housekeeper claim in respect of their circumstances. In fact when you look at the range of disability support services currently provided and the money that is provided for in this Budget and last year’s Budget when you also look at the Ministry of Social Development’s child disability allowance and the disability allowance generally the rationale for then saying that on top of that you can claim a claim that has a maximum of $310 a year really ceases to be. What this particular provision is about like the earlier provision we discussed regarding the child allowance and like the transitional allowance is removing a provision that no longer serves the purpose for which it was established. We have a different way of dealing with these issues now.  
At the time when this particular credit was established in 1933 there was certainly nothing like comprehensive childcare there was certainly nothing like comprehensive funding or support for that childcare and I doubt that there was care for those with disabilities in anything like the way we have today. The circumstances over the intervening just under 80 years have substantially changed. The Government’s view is that a credit of this nature which ties up a fair amount of resource is poorly targeted is not even being claimed by significant numbers of the lowest-income groups in the group and has outlived its usefulness. That is why I say to the member we are removing it.
Tisch Lindsay: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Tisch Lindsay: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2460. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Order! Members I actually would like to hear the member calling and I would like to hear what members are saying. So keep the interjections down please. I am calling Tracey Martin.
Vote: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Vote: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2458. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill be now read a second time. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bill read a second time.
Vote: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Vote: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2473. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Part 2 agreed to.
Bennett David: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Bennett David: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2452. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East) 
: 
 Today we have a great Budget for New Zealand and New Zealanders. It is a Budget that sets up the future for this country going forward and it is a Budget that has the right signals and incentives. It is a Budget that the people wanted and they got. But all Opposition members can do in this House tonight is talk about students and children losing some tax credits. They cannot talk about the big things that will grow an economy. They do not understand what the people out there actually want. People want stability. 
Hon Clayton Cosgrove 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I just raise the point that the member is speaking rather loudly and Mr Finlayson is asleep or maybe— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: No the member will be seated. That is not a point of order and the member knows it. He has been here a long time. 
DAVID BENNETT 
: For new members that is the Clayton Cosgrove trick. When he thinks that a speech is going the wrong way for his party he tries to raise points of order. 
Labour members are scared because they know they have got it wrong. They have gone out to the public and what will the public think tomorrow? They will think that the Labour Party and the New Zealand First Party are not interested in what people are going through out there. They are not interested in getting money on the table so that people can pay their mortgages. They are not interested in people having jobs tomorrow. They are not interested in building a stronger community that will give people that brighter future. All they are interested in is picking holes and—what is it—nickel-and-diming. Well if that is all you can find wrong in this Budget then there is not much to worry about. This is a good Budget. It sets a good springboard for the New Zealand economy going forward. We look forward to it going through this Parliament tonight. 
I thought it was quite interesting to hear from the New Zealand First Party that we should not look inward. For the New Zealand First Party of all parties to talk about not looking inward! This is a Budget for New Zealanders for the right time and the right place. It has been accepted and supported by the public because they understand what is needed this time. We look forward to the success of this Budget building that stronger economy.
Robertson H V Ross: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Robertson H V Ross: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2446. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Is the member calling? 
Dr David Clark 
: Yes. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I call the honourable member David Clark.
Vote: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Vote: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2441. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bill read a first time.
Goldsmith Paul: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Goldsmith Paul: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2441. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
PAUL GOLDSMITH (National) 
: 
 It is my pleasure to take a call on the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. We have had a lot of overblown rhetoric on the other side about what it will or will not do but really it is more a sensible tidying up of the tax system. It is an omnibus bill that deals with three mains areas: the livestock valuation rules three tax credits that are no longer fit for purpose—removing those—and cancelling the student loan repayment incentive. All up we estimate that it could bring in an extra $300 million of revenue over 4 years and that is not an inconsiderable sum. It is not going to change the world but it will build on the important tax changes that were made in the 2010 Budget and that have formed a basis for a lot of the economic growth that we have had in the last while. It will build on the strong economic performances in the 2010 Budget. 
It has been hard to figure out what the Opposition has been saying on this bill. First we had Mr Mallard saying it would be crazy for people to pay back their loans then we had David Clark saying we should be keeping this 10 percent student loan repayment incentive. I was not quite sure where we had got to there. It is worth thinking just quickly on this bill where we might have been if things had gone awry and Labour had control of the place. We would have been looking at a capital gains tax coming in. I just wonder how you tax your way to growth. How would New Zealand have been saved by Labour taxing every small business every shareholder and every farm? I do not know how that would have developed growth in this country. 
We talk about vision. The only vision we seem to see on the other side of the House is one that is about expanding the size of the State and expanding the size of the tax system. Our vision is to set people free to be as enterprising as they desire and that is what this Budget is all about. I am very pleased to speak in favour of this bill and I commend it to the House. Thank you very much.
Roy Eric: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The 11th call is a split call.
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MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) 
: 
 It is with great pleasure that I stand in support of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. I would just like to say that as a 12-year-old I actually did have a paper run.  
Hon Simon Bridges 
: Don’t tell me you were paid under the table. 
MARK MITCHELL 
: Well I have to say that I cannot ever remember submitting a tax return as a 12-year-old paper boy. It never happened and I cannot remember any of my mates rushing home to fill out their tax returns and get them in either.  
This is an old piece of legislation. It is about time we cleaned it up and we are cleaning it up. I watched something today in the House as a new member of Parliament that I really could not believe. I could not believe the fact that when the co-leader of the Green Party Russel Norman got up and made a speech I actually agreed with something he said. 
Hon Members 
: No! 
MARK MITCHELL 
: Yes I did—I did. When he came out—[ 
Interruption 
] I know I know. But when he came out he made a bold statement by saying that National inherited a mess in 2008—National inherited a mess. I looked down at the Labour benches and there was just stony-faced silence. But it was all too good to be true. Mr Norman just came back into the House and I think the leader of the Labour Party Mr Shearer must have called him and said: “Russel we’re putting strain on the bromance here. You’re going to have get back in there and correct this.” He came back into the House and I listened to him for 5 minutes trying to retract and trying to step away from what he said in his earlier speech. 
Catherine Delahunty 
: You don’t know Russel very well. 
MARK MITCHELL 
: I know him well enough to see what I saw. Anyway I am very happy to stand in support of this bill. It is time that we updated a lot of this old legislation and this is a very good step in the right direction. Thank you.
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KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National) 
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 It is my pleasure to take a brief call on the first reading of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. National is focused on building a more competitive and productive economy. This can be achieved only by lifting our economic performance creating more jobs boosting incomes of all New Zealanders and improving living standards.  
This bill deals with a very important aspect by removing three tax credits that no longer fit the purpose for which they were set up. First is the income under $9980 tax credit second is the childcare and housekeeping tax credit and third is the tax credit for the active income of children the latter of which will be replaced by a limited exemption. The changes will save $117 million over the next 4 years. These changes will help modernise the tax system and ensure tax deduction and tax credits are being targeted to the areas they are intended and needed for. I commend this bill to the House.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That urgency be accorded. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to.
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
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 I move  
That urgency be accorded the introduction and passing of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill the Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill and any bills into which they may be divided and the introduction and first reading of the Customs and Excise (Tobacco Products—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill and its referral to a select committee. 
 These bills give life to the announcements in today’s Budget speech around livestock valuations reforming outdated tax credits ending the voluntary payments bonus for student loans altering the annual adjustment for aged-care asset thresholds and increasing the excise rate on tobacco products in 2013 2014 2015 and 2016. These bills are designed to make the tax student loans and aged-care asset-testing systems fairer and fiscally sustainable and to improve the health of New Zealanders. Urgency is desirable as these changes have already been announced and it is preferable to introduce these changes and provide certainty for taxpayers and citizens as soon as possible. The Customs and Excise (Tobacco Products—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill will progress through its second and third readings and the Committee of the whole House stage under the usual House sitting procedures as the first excise increase is proposed for 1 January 2013. I think those statements set out the necessary particularity to support the motion.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to.
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GARETH HUGHES (Green) 
: 
 Kia ora Mr Speaker. Nga mihi nui ki a koutou. Kia ora. The Budget delivered today has been called all sorts of names: a zero Budget the nickel-and-dime Budget the “black” Budget the boring Budget and the tinkering Budget. What is clear is that in National’s Budget there is a clear deficit: we have over $8 billion of deficit. But more important this Budget has a deficit of vision a deficit of compassion for our kids—those 200000 kids growing up in poverty—and a deficit of ideas. I think you can most graphically see that deficit of ideas in the first Budget bill this Government has put to this House to pass through all stages under urgency: the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. All the bill does is pinch the pockets of those hard-working kids as Megan Woods put it by removing the $240 tax credit. The bill also removes the failing 10 percent student loan repayment bonus. A deficit of ideas is exactly what we are seeing in this bill.  
This country has a huge number of challenges and many of them were elucidated by the Minister of Finance. We have an $8 billion deficit. We have $75 billion in foreign debt. We have the lowest growth in 50 years. We have huge structural problems and we have concerning global economic conditions. 
Sitting suspended from 6 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
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 I move  
That the debate be now adjourned 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Just before I call the honourable member I wish to advise members that this is a split call. For the speakers they will get a bell with 1 minute to go.
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PAUL GOLDSMITH (National) 
: 
 I would like to apologise to the previous speaker Kennedy Graham for the noise from my jeers. He might be rather dull but he is very earnest and I think we should pay him more respect because he is very earnest. I was kind of interested to find out his solution. He was talking about the growth of the human population and I wanted to know what his solution to that problem was going to be but he did not get on to that. 
We have had a lot of hot air from the other side about tinkering in this Budget. What those members do not seem to understand is that this Government in the 2010 Budget got the tax settings of this country in good shape. We did away with the ridiculous gap between the top income tax rate and the trust rate and shifted the weight of the tax from work to spending. That was the whole point—from income tax to GST. That has helped encourage the significant shift we have had towards saving and the progress that we have made. This Budget from this Government is all about consistency. It is about strong stable Government and continuing on a path that we set out after the election in 2008 and consolidated in the important Budget of 2010. 
This bill the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill is about the maintenance of the tax system. It is about plugging occasional loopholes and it is about clearing up anachronistic old taxes that cost more to administer than they bring in. I think this bill the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill should be read a second time and I fully commend it to the House. Thank you very much.
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! The leader of the ACT Party recorded a vote; I heard him do so.