Horomia Parekura: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Horomia Parekura: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:17216] 
Hon PAREKURA HOROMIA (Labour—Ikaroa-Rawhiti) 
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 E tu atu tenei e te Kaiwhakahaere o te Whare hei korero atu mo te ahua o te pire nei. E tautokotia atu nga whakaaro e puta a-waha a toku hoa nei a Rawiri Parker me Shane Jones e whakaaro atu mo te ahua o te tikanga mo te takutai moana e puta atu te whakaaro e waiho atu mo te Minita anake engari e whakaaro atu ra tatou mo te haerenga ki te koti. 
No reira he nui atu nga whakaaro mo te wahi tahi nei. E tu kaha atu e puta atu te whakaaro mo te ahua o te tikanga me te ture me te waihotia atu nga tupuna ki a tatou mo tatou a ngai Maori na te mea i roto i te tuhinga e ki atu wetahi waihotia atu ki nga koti na te mea i roto i a tatou i reira ke wetahi o nga iwi mai ra no e mau tata ana ki te takutai moana e ora ana te manaaki a nga hua o Tangaroa e nui atu te ahua pera tonu. E whakaaro atu he aha ai e ki tenei anake te ahua anake e mau ana mo tenei tino take. No reira e whakaaro atu mo nga nekeneke haere mo te ture nei. 
E timata atu te korero e puta a-waha atu a te Minita nei mo tana whakaaro mo te whakaae te kore whakaae mo te ture nei. Na te tuhinga nei e wehewehe atu mo nga whakaaro a wetahi e pirangi e waihotia atu ki te Minita e whakaaea kare e tae atu ki nga koti kare e tae atu i roto nei o te Whare Miere. No reira tera ano te mea i roto i a tatou i konei e wero ana mo tenei wahi. Na te mate hoki pera tonu atu te ahua mo wetahi o ratou e tae atu i te koti. E mau atu te matauranga mo nga kaiwhakahaere o te koti i roto i te ture. 
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Mr Chairman I rise to speak about the nature of this bill. I support the views expressed by my colleague the Hon David Parker and those expressed by the Hon Shane Jones relating to tikanga—how it relates to the foreshore and whether it should be left solely to the Minister. We favour going to court.  
I have many comments to make about the foreshore—strong views about tikanga within the law and the legacy left by the ancestors for us the Maori people because in this bill it says that courts can make a ruling. But we are mindful too that some tribes have lived close to the foreshore for a long time—nurtured and looked after Tangaroa’s resources at the same time. There are many examples like that. I say leave it for the courts to determine. Why make this the only real reason for it? So we should really think about the implications of this legislation.  
When the Minister began his address he expressed his view in regard to agreeing or opposing this legislation. Now to some this bill is divisive because it is left to the discretion of the Minister. He determines whether a settlement goes before the courts or whether it goes through our parliamentary process. That is another reason why we on this side of the Chamber oppose this. However those who choose to go to court will also be confronted with a similar situation if their more knowledgable ones give advice to court officials 
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Sitting suspended from 6 p.m. to 7.30 p.m. 
Hon Darren Hughes 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I am sorry to interrupt my colleague; this should not take long. I have not had a chance to consult with the Opposition’s junior whip about the part of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill that we are currently considering. My specific question is how many Minister’s amendments are there to this particular part? 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: They are on the Table. 
Hon Darren Hughes 
: Do you know how many there are? 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I do not. I have just come here as you have. They are accessible on the Table. 
Hon Darren Hughes 
: So all the amendments that are available for debate and for the voting on this particular part have been tabled at this time by the Minister? 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: That is correct. I understand so. 
Hon PAREKURA HOROMIA 
: It is interesting to note that the High Court will have a fair bit of sanctioning power and what certainly needs to be ensured at this early stage is that the judges have the ability to cope with Maori tikanga and understand the nuances of hapu and iwi conflict important as it is. It is the issue that needs to be broken down. There can possibly be an agreement but what is more important is that we do not fuel or encourage more conflict amongst the whanau and the hapu. In some parts that wehewehe is something that certainly puts asunder a lot of hard work by people in this building by people outside and especially by the whanau hapu and iwi. That is of interest. 
I want to come back to this issue because I want to commend the Minister for ensuring clause (3)(2)(a) in Part 1 of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill “sets out the purpose of the Act and acknowledges the importance of the marine and coastal area to all New Zealanders and the customary interests of whanau hapu and iwi in that area”. I really commend the Government and encourage it to hold that line because if one has been an activist and a collector and gatherer of the fruits of the takutai moana then it is important that there is a sequence that has been well driven and well trodden. 
First of all it starts off with the whanau the family who go to ruku pupu to gather seafood to make sure that they are replenished and that they feed their families well. The next is hapu who in a sense try to determine and define boundaries and those issues relevant to that hapu—the collection of those whanau. Last of all is the iwi who may in relation to representing the whanau and the hapu ensure that all those issues that are relevant to working there or to doing anything with the foreshore and seabed are recognised and managed well in accordance with the tikanga and with mana. There is inherent clarity in that. Certainly I commend the Minister on that.