O'Connor SimonSIMON O'CONNOR (National—Tāmaki): Thank you Madam Speaker. The motion is not agreed to and National continues to oppose this bill. This bill glosses over one mess and is going to be an attempt I would suggest to create a new mess. In fact as the Minister who resumed his seat was speaking particularly at the end about scale and building and addressing all the needs I thought—and maybe my mind drifted—we were discussing KiwiBuild once again. But no it's now a new bill this one around Kāinga Ora. What was interesting—and one of the reasons why we on this side oppose the bill—is an element that the Minister barely touched on. In all around the rhetoric of what this will do and all these wonderful partnerships no details are given and nor is that clearly in the bill. In fact huge responsibilities are handed over. But the Minister barely touched on the fact that Housing New Zealand is effectively going to be disestablished in name along with HLC and KiwiBuild. These three substantial entities—well two of them at least are substantial. KiwiBuild's dead retreated gone. But to pull these three entities together and to rename them Kāinga Ora this is really just shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic. It's in many ways to this side of the House just a very quick attempt to get hold of the balance sheet of Housing New Zealand and to trade off if you will the benefits of HLC formerly known as the Hobsonville Land Co. or now Homes. Land. Community. One of the great things about HLC is they're a very good performer; so much so actually there was I think around about 27000 homes which National had engaged with them to start developing. There's a pipeline of work—Hon Andrew Little: It started under Labour—it started under the last Government. SIMON O'CONNOR: Oh where it started is not so relevant Mr Little. It's where the current 27000 are—where the current 27000 are is relevant. So what we're seeing here is a grab for the money of Housing New Zealand and for the pipeline of National-driven success through HLC and all I would suggest—all I would suggest—to cover up the glaring horrible failure that is KiwiBuild. So come 1 October they'll be all blended together under a nice fresh new name as I say: the money of Housing New Zealand KiwiBuild to be forgotten and the Government all of a sudden able to say Oh look at all this great work we have done."Of course this side of the House won't forget it really isn't the Government that's done anything other than talk but in fact it's the work of the HLC. That's the glossing if you will—glossing over the mess.Greg O'Connor: This Government did nothing!SIMON O'CONNOR: And someone says "This Government did nothing." It's probably not clear but someone on the Government side is saying "This Government did nothing." He's acknowledged it. It's quite stunning. I didn't realise my speech was that persuasive that a Government member is admitting that his Government's done nothing. So the first problem is they've glossed over the mess. The second I predict is this bill will just create a new mess. The rhetoric we heard from Minister Twyford is exactly the same rhetoric and high-flying ideas that introduced KiwiBuild into this Parliament. He's the same Minister who looked after KiwiBuild. The very same failures and problematic thinking which led to the failure and the massive retreat of KiwiBuild I predict will come through here in Kāinga Ora.Just one small hint of it already: constituents in my fine electorate of Tamaki received a couple of days ago letters from Housing New Zealand advising them that Housing New Zealand would be no more and would be replaced by Kāinga Ora from 1 October. Excuse the French but that was one hell of a fright to those constituents. They're all upset confused and worried; trying to understand why Housing New Zealand has disappeared. It's a small thing—it's a small thing if you will. However that letter and the way it's already been handled indicate that the people at the heart of what this bill is designed to do are being forgotten. We have many now stressed locals and constituents confused in a way I'd suggest that the Government too is confused. It's already a bad start and I'd like the next member from the Government to apologise not just for the bill but certainly to my fine constituents in Tamaki for upsetting them."