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Calder Cam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCalder Cam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18775. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]5.Dr CAM CALDER (National)to the Minister for Tertiary Education Skills and Employment: What announcements has he made about the Māori and Pasifika Trades Training initiative?Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister for Tertiary Education Skills and Employment):Last Friday along with my colleague the Hon Tariana Turia I was pleased to announce the latest five groups selected for the Government’s Māori and Pasifika Trades Training initiative which is working with young Māori and Pasifika people to gain qualifications and apprenticeships and get into work. The Government is investing $43 million in this initiative as part of our Business Growth Agenda to help young people develop skills in important trades that are needed now and in the longer term. Three thousand places are available in this initiative around country. New Zealand’s economy is now growing strongly and there are big opportunities over the next few years for anybody interested in trades careers to train and take up apprenticeships.Dr Cam Calder: What groups will be delivering the Māori and Pasifika Trades Training initiative?Hon STEVEN JOYCE: One of the excellent things about it is that it is being delivered by a range of consortia around the country. All of them announced so far include employers Māori and Pasifika organisations and tertiary education organisations. Contracts have been signed with seven consortia to provide trades training in Hawke’s Bay East Coast Waikato Wellington and Canterbury. Officials have now signed contracts with five more groups including the Te Tai Tokerau Māori and Pasifika Trades Training initiative in Northland focused on the building and primary industries. In South Auckland Unitec the Manukau Institute of Technology and Te Wānanga o Aotearoa will deliver the Auckland Māori and Pasifika Trades Training initiative focused on construction and infrastructure. Also in South Auckland the Southern Initiative of the Auckland Council will focus on infrastructure trades.Dr Cam Calder: What other investment in tertiary education is the Government making in South Auckland?Hon STEVEN JOYCE: As the member will know South Auckland is home to one of New Zealand’s fastest-growing and most youthful populations. As the region’s population grows so too does demand for access to tertiary education at higher levels. This Government is very proud of its commitment to lift the number of places in tertiary education in South Auckland. Aside from the Māori and Pasifika Trades Training initiative we have made a number of significant investments. For example we announced that Auckland University of Technology will expand its Manukau campus to around 4000 equivalent full-time students by 2020 and last Friday I was privileged to open the new Manukau Institute of Technology’s $100 million seven-floor business and IT education facility in the Manukau city centre.
Henare Tau: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHenare Tau: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18770. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TAU HENARE (National):My question is to the Minister of Finance.Grant Robertson: Where’s the scarf?Hon TAU HENARE: No this is not about polls.Mr SPEAKER: Order! Would the member just ask his question and I would be grateful if there was less interjection from either side.Hon TAU HENARE: Thank you Mr Speaker. What reports has he received on inequality in New Zealand and how do recent changes—Hon Trevor Mallard: Well read patsy.Hon TAU HENARE: Shall I start again?Mr SPEAKER: Yes. [Interruption] Order! The member can start again.Hon TAU HENARE: My question is to the Minister of Finance. What reports has he received—[Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Keep going.
Curran Clare: Motions — Egypt—Imprisonment of Al Jazeera JournalistsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCurran Clare: Motions — Egypt—Imprisonment of Al Jazeera Journalists[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18767. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CLARE CURRAN (Labour—Dunedin South):I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without debate in relation to the imprisonment of journalists in Egypt.Mr SPEAKER: Is there any objection to that action being followed? There is none.CLARE CURRAN: I move That this House condemn the sentencing and imprisonment of three Al Jazeera journalists in Egypt—Australian Peter Greste Canadian-Egyptian Mohamad Fahmy and Egyptian Baher Mohammad—further condemn Egypt’s suppression of the free press which is the cornerstone of a just and stable society and call on the Egyptian Government to review the sentencing and release these journalists.Motion agreed to.
Urgent Debates Declined — District Health Boards—Health Benefits LtdText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUrgent Debates Declined — District Health Boards—Health Benefits Ltd[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18787. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Urgent Debates DeclinedDistrict Health Boards—Health Benefits LtdMr SPEAKER: Honourable members I have received a letter from the Hon Annette King seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the current concerns regarding the financial situation and mandate of Health Benefits Ltd and the pressure this organisation is placing on district health boards. For a debate to be held there must be a particular case of recent occurrence for which there is ministerial responsibility. The Minister of Health is answerable to the House for the performance and current operations of Health Benefits Ltd. But a debate cannot be granted on the basis of media speculation about its performance. A case of recent occurrence occurs when a decision for which the Minister is responsible is made and announced. While there may be ongoing concerns there must be a new development of sufficient importance in itself to warrant setting aside the business of the House. While public confidence in New Zealand’s health system is important the requirements for a debate have not been made out clearly today. The application is therefore declined.
Carter David: Visitors — Australia—Speaker Northern Territory Legislative AssemblyText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Visitors — Australia—Speaker Northern Territory Legislative Assembly[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18767. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I am sure that members would wish to welcome a delegation from the Legislative Assembly of the Northern Territory of Australia led by the Speaker the Hon Kezia Purick and would wish that she be accorded a seat to the left of the Chair.The Hon Kezia Purick accompanied by the Deputy Speaker entered the Chamber and took a seat on the left of the Chair.
Imprest Supply (First for 2014/15) Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeImprest Supply (First for 2014/15) Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18830. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Imprest Supply (First for 2014/15) BillThird ReadingHon HEKIA PARATA (Minister of Education)on behalf of theMinister of Finance: I move That the Imprest Supply (First for 2014/15 Bill) be now read a third time.A party votewas called for on the questionThat the Imprest Supply (First for 2014/15) Bill be now read a third time.Ayes62New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; United Future 1.Noes56New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1.Bill read a third time.
Appropriation (2013/14 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeAppropriation (2013/14 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18829. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Appropriation (2013/14 Supplementary Estimates) BillThird ReadingHon HEKIA PARATA (Minister of Education)on behalf of theMinister of Finance: I move That the Appropriation (2013/14 Supplementary Estimates) Bill be now read a third time.A party votewas called for on the questionThat the Appropriation (2013/14 Supplementary Estimates) Bill be now read a third time.Ayes62New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; United Future 1.Noes56New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1.Bill read a third time.
Imprest Supply (First for 2014/15) Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeImprest Supply (First for 2014/15) Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18788. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Imprest Supply (First for 2014/15) BillFirst ReadingHon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance):I move That the Imprest Supply (First for 2014/15) Bill be now read a first time.Bill read a first time.
Parliamentary Service Commission — MembershipText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeParliamentary Service Commission — Membership[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18787. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Parliamentary Service CommissionMembershipHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House):I move That pursuant to section 15(1)(d) and 17(3) of the Parliamentary Service Act 2000 Gareth Hughes be appointed as a member of the Parliamentary Service Commission in place of Metiria Turei.Motion agreed to.
Points of Order — Chamber Lobbies and Galleries—Use of Social Media in ChamberText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePoints of Order — Chamber Lobbies and Galleries—Use of Social Media in Chamber[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18787. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Points of OrderChamber Lobbies and Galleries—Use of Social Media in ChamberHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I think it is reasonable for me to call attention to the fact that even though there were discussions in the Business Committee a couple of weeks ago there have been further incidents today of people tweeting from in the House making what I could only describe as disparaging remarks about the Chair therefore offending all of the members in this House. I wonder Mr Speaker whether you could subject yourself—I would have to say—to looking at those once you are out of the House today so that there might be a further discussion to see whether some of the positions that were reached recently can be honoured.Hon DAVID PARKER (Deputy Leader—Labour):My understanding is that that matter has been referred to the Privileges Committee.Mr SPEAKER: The member is right. It has been referred to the Privileges Committee and the whole House is aware of that. The member Gerry Brownlee has asked me to have a look at some of those comments; I will.
Motions — Egypt—Imprisonment of Al Jazeera JournalistsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMotions — Egypt—Imprisonment of Al Jazeera Journalists[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18767. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MotionsEgypt—Imprisonment of Al Jazeera JournalistsCLARE CURRAN (Labour—Dunedin South):I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without debate in relation to the imprisonment of journalists in Egypt.Mr SPEAKER: Is there any objection to that action being followed? There is none.CLARE CURRAN: I move That this House condemn the sentencing and imprisonment of three Al Jazeera journalists in Egypt—Australian Peter Greste Canadian-Egyptian Mohamad Fahmy and Egyptian Baher Mohammad—further condemn Egypt’s suppression of the free press which is the cornerstone of a just and stable society and call on the Egyptian Government to review the sentencing and release these journalists.Motion agreed to.
Visitors — Australia—Speaker Northern Territory Legislative AssemblyText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVisitors — Australia—Speaker Northern Territory Legislative Assembly[Sitting date: 24 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18767. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Tuesday 24 June 2014Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.VisitorsAustralia—Speaker Northern Territory Legislative AssemblyMr SPEAKER: I am sure that members would wish to welcome a delegation from the Legislative Assembly of the Northern Territory of Australia led by the Speaker the Hon Kezia Purick and would wish that she be accorded a seat to the left of the Chair.The Hon Kezia Purick accompanied by the Deputy Speaker entered the Chamber and took a seat on the left of the Chair.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18707. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the motion be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Motion agreed to.Bill to be reported with amendment presently.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18706. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat schedule 1 be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Schedule 1 agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 468 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to schedule 2 be agreed to.Amendment agreed to.Schedule 2 as amended agreed to.Schedule 3 agreed to.Schedule 4 agreed to.Schedule 5 agreed to.Schedule 6 agreed to.Schedule 7 agreed to.Schedule 8 agreed to.Schedule 9 agreed to.Clause 1 agreed to.Clause 2 agreed to.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18706. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 7 be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Part 7 agreed to.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18706. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 6 as amended be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Part 6 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18706. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat theamendment be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Amendment agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18709. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): I have received some advice so because there was one debate I am going to run past the preamble again.Preamble agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 469 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to Part 1 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.Part 1 as amended agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 469 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to Part 2 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.Part 2 as amended agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 469 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to Part 3 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.Part 3 as amended agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 469 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to Part 4 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.Part 4 as amended agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 469 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to Part 5 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.Part 5 as amended agreed to.Schedule 1 agreed to.Schedule 2 agreed to.Schedule 3 agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 469 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to schedule 4 be agreed to.Amendment agreed to.Schedule 4 as amended agreed to.Schedule 5 agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 469 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to schedule 6 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.Schedule 6 as amended agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 469 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to insert new schedule 7 be agreed to.Amendment agreed to.Clause 1 agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 469 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to clause 2 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.Clause 2 as amended agreed to.Bill to be reported with amendment presently.House resumed.The Chairperson reported the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill with amendment and that the Committee had divided it into two bills and the Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Bill with amendment.Report adopted.
Mahuta Nanaia: Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMahuta Nanaia: Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18707. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour—Hauraki-Waikato):Tēnā koe Mr Chair. Mōrena. I am not going to take a long call on any of the Supplementary Order Paper 469 amendments. We largely support them and believe that they are in the spirit of the initial settlement. There are changes to clause 30 in particular of Part 2 of the Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Bill with regard to the maunga. We are quite happy with the way that the changes read in clauses 30 and 31 with regard to reverting ownership to the Maunga Authority. We believe that this is a further clarification and improvement of the intent of the bill.There are other aspects with regards to Maungauika which I think clarify the nature of the vesting of the bill and the transfer of assets. I have to say it was not considered at length in the Māori Affairs Committee but again it provides further clarity to the intent. So with regard to ensuring that the Tāmaki Collective and the spirit of management around the maunga are exercised in ways that give greater voice to the people to the mana whenua groups in this area I think that the intention of the Supplementary Order Paper reflects this and it is a very helpful set of amendments.Again I said I really think that these are points of clarity; they are not really substantial amendments. So in so far as recognising the spirit of the original settlement and the way in which the amendments provide greater clarity for the intent I think those are very helpful additions to the bill. Kia ora.
Finlayson Christopher: Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFinlayson Christopher: Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18707. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):I seek leave for there to be one debate on the bill with questions put separately at the conclusion of the debate.The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Is there any objection to that course of action being taken?Hon Trevor Mallard: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Would the Minister just add the usual proviso for there not being a four-call limit?Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: The one that you moved earlier? Yes I so move.The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Is there any objection to that course of action? There is not. The question is that the preamble stand part. All those in favour please say Aye to the contrary No. The Ayes have it.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18705. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 5 be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Part 5 agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 468 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to Part 6 be agreed to.
Finlayson Christopher: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFinlayson Christopher: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18707. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):I move That the Committee divide the bill into the Tūhoe Claims Settlement Bill and the Te Urewera Billpursuant to Supplementary Order Paper 467.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18705. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 4 be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Part 4 agreed to.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18705. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 3 be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Part 3 agreed to.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18705. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 2 as amended be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18705. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Amendment agreed to.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18704. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 1 as amended be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Roy Eric: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18704. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): It is an interesting point the member makes. I guess it is a somewhat semantic one. It is not unusual that someone records the requirement of a party vote. The only mechanism in the way that we actually do it is to vote against. Particularly when we have had split calls within a party a party will—Hon Trevor Mallard: I understand.The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): Yes so I think there is a bit of tolerance around that. I think it is probably something the Standing Orders Committee should have a look at but at the moment I am prepared to continue with the way in which we are operating. [Interruption] No I have dealt with the matter. The member is fine.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 468 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to Part 2 be agreed to.
Mallard Trevor: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18704. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I know it is sort of unusual at this point but the tradition of the House and I think it is built into the Speakers’ rulings is that it is a requirement for votes to follow voice. So when an individual—or in this case a party—votes in a particular way then on the voices it is required when the vote is recorded to vote the same way. I am not arguing with any of the decisions that have been made but I think it might be good if you advised the parties that are abstaining that they should say “Abstain” or something similar rather than “No” because they are obligated to vote the way they call.
Vote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18704. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 7New Zealand First 7.Amendment agreed to.
Peters Winston: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18702. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First):Now we have got that well-known jurisdiction called Ecuador as a precedent for what the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations is thinking about. This is what is being said here and by the Māori Party: the Minister said that these two tribes have customary association. Frankly that is an insult. That is a massive insult to two tribes or iwi in that part of the world. He said they have “customary association” as though somehow they are there at the behest of someone else. If I was from those tribes I would be absolutely affronted.Then the Minister said that the deed affected other iwi and hapū who may have interests. What on earth is he talking about? Those two iwi are what they are historically and nothing that he or the Māori Party or anybody else says is going to change the facts of history. The idea that they were sort of wandering around there at the behest or with the permission of someone else like Tūhoe is an outrage. That is my point. Tūhoe would say the same if they were treated that way.Let us not have this idea that somehow we are going to rewrite history in this Parliament in 2014 and have no regard to the facts. The member for the Māori Party Te Ururoa Flavell said: “and the Minister will take responsibility if there is anything wrong with the settlement.” Do you not feel good about that? A Minister not long to be here and who has not been here long for a start is now taking all the responsibility should something go wrong. If I was up there in the areas of the two iwi that I am talking about and I heard that would I be comforted or would I be beset with anxiety? Because it means with respect to my friend Mr Flavell utter nonsense. Let us be very clear. The Māori Party used the example of Tainui but there is no relativity with Tainui on the coast and the way that this issue is being put in this bill. Make no bones about it Minister—this is the time and this is the place. If it is the wish of this Parliament to ignore that then New Zealand First will not support this bill.
Finlayson Christopher: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFinlayson Christopher: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18701. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):I just wanted to reaffirm what Mr Tirikatene has said because he is absolutely spot on in his reference to Kāpiti Island. The fact that Ngāti Toa have received relief out there does not mean to say that when one concludes settlements with Ngāti Raukawa ki Te Tonga Muaūpoko and Te Ātiawa Ki Whakarongotai that there cannot be recognition of their interests in Kāpiti. It happens all the time. I am currently in the course of negotiating with Rangitāne in the Wairarapa and Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa. They have overlapping claims. There is no magic. We are not talking about delineated boundaries that you cannot go over. Of course there was that decision of the Waitangi Tribunal some years ago about the boundaries between Te Tau Ihu iwi and Ngāi Tahu and the tribunal had views about trying to hermetically seal off one part of the country from other iwi. It cannot be done. So I simply reaffirm that point that notwithstanding that we are settling here with Ngāi Tūhoe and we are establishing Te Urewera it is still possible I say to Mr Peters to have just and durable settlements with Te Ūpokorehe and with Ruapani.The only other point I would make is—and it is worth just mentioning because of the novelty of what we are talking about and Mr Tirikatene raised it—the importance of clause 118 which declares Te Urewera to be a legal entity with all the rights powers duties and liabilities of a legal person. That all looks a bit strange on the face of it but then last night I had an email from overseas from someone who said that actually in Ecuador a river was given a legal identity so that it had all the rights of taking action under the Ecuadorian constitution. So it was an interesting piece of information. There is probably nothing new under the sun. What we are doing here as a means of achieving a just and durable Treaty settlement is a perfectly sensible and logical way of dealing with what has been a vexed historical issue.
Roy Eric: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18701. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): I wish to make some comments about process at this point that might be helpful to the Committee. I think what is developing here is a dialogue situation. When leave was sought to have one debate there was no instruction or change to the process of four calls per member. Because this is a lesser court to the House—we are in the Committee of the whole House—the normal process for that the precedent for that and the convention for that is that it be an instruction from the House to the Committee that there be unlimited calls and that course has not been taken. I do not believe there was any intention to curtail but I just want to inform those who are participating that that is kind of the structure under which we are operating as long as members are comfortable with that. It is just a little pre-emptive process.Hon Trevor Mallard: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Can I take the leave? I do not think anyone thinks this is not a positive way of doing things. It is a much better way if people can go back and forth and therefore I take the leave—The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): You seek the leave?Hon Trevor Mallard: I seek the leave of the Committee for the four-call limit not to be used for this debate.The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): OK we will put the leave. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There is not. So what we have just done is we have taken away that four-call limit if the member wishes to participate more than that although he looked quite content. Now I will recognise the Minister who was seeking the call.
Finlayson Christopher: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFinlayson Christopher: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18697. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):I think it may be helpful if I just take the member through the bill because actually the words are quite important. Parts 1 to 4 deal with the settlement of the Ngāi Tūhoe historical claim. Parts 5 through 7 deal with Te Urewera and the establishment of it. It is very important to have a good look at Part 5 Subpart 1 and I take the right honourable member to Part 6 which also deals with the governance and management of Te Urewera and to clause 127 “Decision making affecting relationship of iwi and hapū with Te Urewera”.What the bill does—and Parts 5 to 7 will become a separate bill—is that it acknowledges that other iwi hapū have associations with and customary interests in parts of Te Urewera—Rt Hon Winston Peters: They own it.Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: —read the clause—so the board will have to consider and provide opportunities for the relationship of iwi and hapū and their culture and traditions with Te Urewera when making decisions.There are also specific provisions that have been designed in response for example to the interests of Ngāti Manawa and I refer the right honourable member to clauses 236 to 241. What they do is amend redress over Tāwhiuau to vest the summit in Ngāti Manawa. There is a specific interest given to Ngāti Whare and I refer the right honourable member to clauses 243 and 242 about the inclusion of Te Whāiti in Whirinaki Te Pua-ā-Tāne Conservation Park and the requirement of relationship between Te Urewera Board and Ngāti Whare over western parts of Te Urewera. Then there is also Ngāti Ruapani ki Waikaremoana. I refer the right honourable member to clauses 234 and 243 and in particular the exclusion of Onepoto from the Tūhoe settlement and the development of a memorandum of understanding in relation to the Waikaremoana area.So the point I have been at pains to make is that the bill does not preclude any redress options that may be negotiated and agreed with other iwi hapū who have interests in Te Urewera. The other point I would make directly to the right honourable member in relation to Ūpokorehe and also Ngāti Ruapani is that there is nothing here that prevents the conclusion of just and durable settlements with those groups when they have a mandate and when they are ready to negotiate. I can give the member that assurance.
Roy Eric: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18693. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There appears not. Leave is granted.
Finlayson Christopher: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFinlayson Christopher: Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18693. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):I seek leave for there to be one debate on the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill with questions put separately at the conclusion of the debate.
Vote: Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 19 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18757. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill and KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.Ayes105New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; United Future 1; Independent: Horan.Noes10Green Party 9; Mana 1.Bills read a third time.
Vote: Taxation (Annual Rates Employee Allowances and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Taxation (Annual Rates Employee Allowances and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 19 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18739. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the Taxation (Annual Rates Employee Allowances and Remedial Matters) Bill be now read a third time.Ayes 97New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Māori Party 3; United Future 1.Noes 22Green Party 13; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a third time.
McKelvie Ian: Victims’ Orders Against Violent Offenders Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMcKelvie Ian: Victims’ Orders Against Violent Offenders Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 19 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18765. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]IAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei):It is somewhat ironic that we listened to a Labour speaker Andrew Little who was not part of the Law and Order Committee process and we have now listened to a Green speaker Kevin Hague who was not part of the select committee process. Both of them had very different takes on the Victims’ Orders Against Violent Offenders Bill which upholds the great role that this Government is playing in protecting communities preventing crime and putting victims first. At the select committee we heard some very good submissions on this bill.To be fair life is full of incremental gains and this bill in my view is all about an incremental gain. It is the incremental gain that victims of these crimes—and a lot of them are pretty unpleasant crimes too—are able to pick up. This bill enables that to happen and by putting these non-contact orders in place it tends to protect those people. It gives those victims a little more protection than they had otherwise. Certainly whilst the offender is in prison that is not an issue. It is once those offenders are let out of prison that it becomes a serious issue.Of course I think this bill has done a really good job in that respect and has added a whole lot to the contribution that this Government has made to law and order in New Zealand. I think that on law and order and justice matters Ministers Collins Tolley and Borrows have done an outstanding job for us. I think we should be very pleased with the way this has gone. I think we should be very proud of the little piece of incremental gain that this bill gives to the whole of the law and order sector.Debate interrupted.
Upston Louise: Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUpston Louise: Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 19 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18756. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupō):One of the names that has been mentioned quite a lot in the House today is the Children’s Commissioner who had this to say about the legislation divided from the Vulnerable Children Bill: “Minister Bennett’s announcement reflects an elevation of the rights and needs of children and signals a very welcome change in social norms in New Zealand by clearly focusing on the behaviour of adults to help keep children safe.” There has been quite a wide range of comments in the House today but I want to emphasise that the very point in this is that it is adults who have responsibility for their children each and every day. It is adults’ behaviour that this legislation will absolutely alter in terms of protecting the most vulnerable children in our society.I am very very proud of the Minister sitting beside me in the House the Minister for Social Development because this is one of the toughest issues this country has faced this century and it is a National Government that has led the charge and put those children at the very heart of this legislation and the Children’s Action Plan with thousands and thousands of New Zealanders having their say about what has to happen and what needs to change. It is this Government that is changing it.
Roy Eric: Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 19 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18754. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Split call 5 minutes—Andrew Little.
Sabin Mike: Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSabin Mike: Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 19 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18753. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MIKE SABIN (National—Northland):That was a very good speech—shame it was bereft of fact. It was interesting that the member Poto Williams was talking about—well in fact it actually makes sense. It is ironic that the member was talking about what we are going to do about the 285000 children she claims are living in poverty. That is from a party that sits there and opposes every effort that the Government makes to grow the economy. So how can members on that side of the House sit there with any justification with any credibility whatsoever and say that it is about lifting people out of so-called poverty and vote against everything that this Government does? Notwithstanding that we are one of the top-performing economies in the OECD. We on this side of the House know that a performing economy an education system that provides jobs and a business environment that allows people to invest and employ people are what lift children out of vulnerability. It is completely disingenuous for members on that side of the House to sit there and say “Oh tsk tsk you’re not doing this and not doing that.” when they will vote against it. The reality is the Labour Party wants the Government to fail so that it can get over this side. If the Labour Party actually did care about those children it would be supporting things that actually helped the economy grow. It is as simple as that.This is not the only measure. This legislation arising from the Vulnerable Children Bill is not the panacea. The Minister for Social Development has never said it is and no one on this side of the House has ever said that. There is a range of activities strategies and approaches that are going on to address the issue of vulnerability with children but one thing is for sure: what this legislation brings is the opportunity to bring some direct accountability and bring some administrative lines—bottom up top down—in terms of ensuring that the children do not fall through the cracks. One thing is for sure: Government departments are good at resolving issues but not so good at talking to one another about what is going on.These bills provide a very very good mechanism. As someone who has worked in this field I think that that in itself is something that deserves support. The members over that side know it does because they will actually vote to support it despite the fact that they have chastised us and said we are not doing anything. Well I challenge the Labour Party. If you want to get on and do something then join us and actually do what is going to get children out of vulnerability and grow the economy. Oh that is right—it cannot do that. Thank you.
Tremain Chris: Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTremain Chris: Vulnerable Children Bill Children Young Persons and Their Families (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill KiwiSaver (Vulnerable Children) Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 19 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18751. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CHRIS TREMAIN (National—Napier):I want to use my brief speech to acknowledge the hundreds of thousands of amazing parents in this country who raise incredible children who will be huge contributors to our communities and our country as we go forward as a nation. There is no doubt that these parents are the majority of parents in our country. They are incredible. They go across the spectrum of New Zealanders of races of wealth. I particularly want to acknowledge those parents who have difficult circumstances and raise incredible children. In fact I think it is those parents who this country our Government and our State services should be focusing on because we need to take a leaf out of those parents’ books and celebrate the outstanding job that they do to raise outstanding kids in difficult circumstances.In saying that I think we do make too many excuses for poor parenting and that is something we need to continue to focus on. We do unfortunately have a group where there are vulnerable children—there is no doubt about that—and we do need to do everything we can as a nation to help those children in those very difficult circumstances. I want to acknowledge Minister Bennett the Social Services Committee—the select committee that dealt with this legislation arising from the Vulnerable Children Bill—and all those parties across the House that are supporting this legislation this evening. It is another step as we go forward as a country to give every child in this nation the very best opportunity to be all that they can be. Thank you.
Bennett David: Taxation (Annual Rates Employee Allowances and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBennett David: Taxation (Annual Rates Employee Allowances and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 19 June 2014. Volume:699;Page:18738. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East):The Taxation (Annual Rates Employee Allowances and Remedial Matters) Bill has gone through the whole process of Parliament and is well canvassed by all political parties. We had the Committee stage this week so what it stands for and everything is pretty well known. It is turning into a bit of a tax debate here today—Hon Maryan Street: It is a tax bill.DAVID BENNETT:—a wider tax debate but I would just like to remind New Zealanders of two things. The Labour Party will go for a capital gains tax and that will hurt the productive sector of New Zealand. The Green Party is looking for a carbon tax which will hurt the productive sector of New Zealand. It is not a tax break for New Zealanders. Remember it is just shifting the tax burden. That is all it is doing. New Zealanders are smarter than that. They know that we have to earn our way in the future going forward and they will support neither of those two policies. Thank you.