Penk ChrisCHRIS PENK (National—Kaipara ki Mahurangi): Thank you very much Madam Chair. I've been watching the debate remotely so to speak and can I just say it seems to me an excellent discussion in the committee so I'm grateful to everyone who's contributed. My own contribution will be obviously limited to Part 4 because this is where we are now and reasonably narrow and won't be unduly lengthy actually. But I do just want to engage with the Minister at least briefly on some of the regulation-making powers within the bill. I acknowledge that the Minister has a legal background as well as the fact that he holds a particular portfolio in the health space that relates to the substance of the bill.But from a legal perspective and I suppose wearing my hat as the enthusiastic chair of the Regulations Review Committee notwithstanding that committee hasn't yet considered this matter just in terms of the way that the regulation-making powers are provided in clause 97 I suppose I might characterise my contribution as an encouragement to the Minister to provide as much detail as possible. We may be beyond the point of no return in terms of what's actually in the legislation at this point but any guidance he can give or thoughts will be helpful for the record.So for example the Governor-General may by Order in Council—in other words the executive government essentially—make regulations to do with regional arrangements. I think it might be helpful in the making of the regulations if not in the regulation-making power within the bill for a bit of a rationale to be provided. So the regional arrangements through which Health New Zealand and the Māori Health Authority must provide and arrange services I think it would be helpful if those regulations specified that their purpose is for example to avoid a post-code lottery approach to health. More eloquent language no doubt would be used for that but no doubt those listening will know what's intended by that. I expect every member of the House would be anxious that we have a health system that doesn't make a lottery of a person's place of residence within New Zealand. So I think at that high level we're all on the same page here. So can I encourage the Minister and his officials when they're making those regulations to be quite clear about the reason that those are going to need to be made because that will be the yardstick against which their effectiveness is able to be measured.Similarly in relation to the next subheading—in italics for those who are fortunate enough for them to have the bill in front of them—Information to be supplied by health entities". So the information to be specified and to be provided to the director-general would include the manner in which it's to be provided. A bit more detail there might be helpful—for example the frequency of such information being provided the requirement of it being released maybe proactively on a publicly accessible Government website and so forth. If I could just give an example actually where I think there is a bit of helpful detail later on under the heading of New Zealand Health plan we've got the imposition of procedural requirements including engagement requirements for consultation. So I think that's an example actually where there is a helpful level of detail in the legislation under that.And then finally in the remaining time within this slot—I should highlight that I don't expect the Minister to engage in detail on each one of these but just to give a general flavour of my thoughts around the fact that more detail rather than less would be helpful—under the heading of "Dispute Resolution" clause 97(1)(p) "for the purpose of section 28 [elsewhere in the bill] prescribing procedural matters and requirements". So I think some examples there and certainly it would be helpful to have those dispute resolution mechanisms—for example it might be that the system should prioritise the timely resolution of such disputes. Of course generally the dictates of justice require timeliness and I can only imagine in the context of contested healthcare provision it would be particularly important for the mental health if nothing else of those involved to have these issues dealt with more rapidly than is for example in the judicial branch of Government more generally.So those are my thoughts and comments. Any response that the Minister can provide would be gratefully received. Otherwise please take it as read that we will look carefully and with interest at the regulations that eventually flow from this primary legislation."