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Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Sorry we have not had an urgent debate but the matter was debated in the House during—I cannot recall whether it was a general debate but it has been debated in the House and I gave some consideration to that.
Smith Nick: Taxation (International Investment and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading 
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Smith Nick: Taxation (International Investment and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading 
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Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson) 
: 
 I am pleased to join members of the Government and other parties to support the third reading of this Taxation (International Investment and Remedial Matters) Bill as part of this Government’s broader programme of improving the international competitiveness of New Zealand. The key focus of this Government’s economic programme whether it is our work in tax whether it is our work in economic development or whether it is in employment law—right across the board—is in terms of making New Zealand more competitive. In that context this Government is very outward-looking. So often we hear speeches from Opposition members who are so almost North Korean in their view of the future of New Zealand. If we are to make the living standards that we desire for New Zealanders we need to look externally because we on this side of the House believe that New Zealand can compete internationally that we can match up and make investments offshore and that we can without sort of protectionist inward-looking legislation provide those sorts of incomes and jobs for fellow New Zealanders.  
Interestingly the biggest gains in this bill are for New Zealand companies that are investing overseas. For instance if you are Fonterra and you have got substantive investments as Fonterra does in countries like China those companies are currently disadvantaged by those tax rules. So it is sensible that this Parliament wants to make those international businesses more competitive internationally. What I find ironic from the contribution from New Zealand First is that when it comes to an issue for instance of China wanting to invest in New Zealand it becomes North Korean in its outlook but when it is the other way around with this tax bill in terms of wanting to invest overseas sometimes it changes its tune. The difference and the real substance of what this Government is doing in this space is that we are consistent in our view of international outlook and recognising the change of globalisation and wanting to make sure that we have got a consistency of tax rules that ensures that we can invest overseas and that we can have those sorts of global businesses based here in New Zealand.  
I want to compliment the work of Peter Dunne. No area of law is as complex and as challenging as tax law let alone when you are trying to work in the international environment. This is a simple but small and effective part of the incremental plan that this Government has for growing the economy. It is part of that theme of doing everything that makes the boat go faster and getting good international tax rules around investments is part of what New Zealand needs to do to be competitive to create jobs and to grow the wealth of New Zealand.
Tolley Anne: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Tolley Anne: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 I think the member is being a little selective because if he goes on to look at Standing Order 113(1)(b) it talks about matters other than criminal matters. Mr Deputy Speaker we are getting very close to questioning the decision that you have made in this House.
Parker David: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Parker David: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Standing Order 113 is interesting. I will read it out because it shows that this is intended to have effect generally in respect of criminal matters rather than other matters. If we are to be prevented in this House in the Opposition from questioning the conduct of Ministers because the Ministers’ conduct is being challenged in a judicial review proceeding then that seems to me to be outside the protection of what is intended by these Standing Orders because what we are trying to do is to stop criminal cases which is what Standing Order 113(1) is mainly about: “in relation to a criminal case from the moment the law … in relation to cases other than criminal from the time proceedings have been initiated by the filing of the appropriate document”. What we are trying to do is protect third-party interests not Ministers’ interests and I would have submitted that it is wrong to use these rulings here to stop us questioning Ministers’ decisions as opposed to protecting the constitutional rights of people who are not Ministers to have their day in court without being interfered with by us.
Hague Kevin: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Hague Kevin: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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KEVIN HAGUE (Green) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I am not intending to relitigate the matters that you have already addressed. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: All right. I will listen very carefully. 
KEVIN HAGUE 
: What I am seeking is an answer to the question as to whether it is your ruling that should the judicial review that is about to become under way in fact not alter the decision that has been made by the Ministers this matter will still fit the requirement of being a Government action of recent occurrence in order to allow urgent debate to be triggered.
Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: There are a raft of considerations that come in; this is one aspect of it. I have already referred quite specifically to the similarity between the letters of debate and the appeal. There are other issues such as that the House has already had an urgent debate on this matter. So across the spectrum of all of the considerations that come into forming a decision the member is quite correct: it is at the discretion of the Speaker. And on this occasion given all of those reasons I have determined that it is out of order for the House to have this debate and therefore will not be affording it.
Norman Russel: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Norman Russel: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Dr RUSSEL NORMAN (Co-Leader—Green) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Under Standing Orders 112 and 113 you have the discretion to allow the House to have this debate. It is entirely up to the Speaker to decide whether to proceed. You have certain guidance—there is guidance provided on when you are to use that discretion to allow us to have that debate. For example you have got to balance freedom of speech against the public interest in maintaining confidence in the judiciary. Can you tell the House because this is a very important matter what is the basis for your exercising your discretion not to allow us to have the debate?
Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I thank members for their participation. I know that this is an issue of particular interest not only to this House but also to the wider community and that is why I can assure the House that I gave this very real and earnest consideration. But this would not be a debate about the principle of overseas sale because the judicial review is of the Ministers’ decision to grant. In that case it gives it a specificity that directly links it to any matters of jurisprudence in the Court of Appeal and that is the principal reason that I have ruled it out on this occasion. I can earnestly say to members that this is not a seat-of-the-pants decision. I have given this serious consideration.
Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I think the member makes some fair points during that point of order. Obviously—this is not something off the top of my head—I have had good time to consider the applications that are before us and to assess the status of the legal action that is intended and the subject matter therein. And given the comparatively similar territory of the letters and the appeal that is lodged I have determined that in this particular instance the debate is out of order according to the Standing Orders.
Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I have received letters from Dr Russel Norman and the Hon David Parker seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the Government’s decision to accept the recommendation of the Overseas Investment Office to grant consent to Milk New Zealand Holdings Ltd a subsidiary of Shanghai Pengxin Group Co. Ltd to acquire the 16 Crafar farms. I have also received a letter from the Hon Trevor Mallard seeking to debate the initiating of a police investigation into the Hon John Banks’ electoral spending and the fact that the Prime Minister refuses to stand him down.  
I will deal with Mr Mallard’s application first. Allegations have been made and referred to the police. Allegations can never constitute a particular case of recent occurrence; neither can the absence of action on the part of a Government. The urgent debate procedure is a means of debating matters that have occurred. It is not a means of debating matters that might or might not occur in the future. Therefore that application is declined.  
The decision of Ministers on the sale of the Crafar farms is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. Given the significance of the decision I would have been persuaded that the matter warrants the immediate attention of the House. However I am informed that a judicial review of the Ministers’ decision was lodged on 26 April. Given that the matter is again before the courts the application is declined.
Young Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Young Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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10. 
JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
 to the  
Minister for Communications and Information Technology 
: What progress has the Government made on its policy of delivering faster broadband for New Zealand? 
Hon AMY ADAMS (Minister for Communications and Information Technology) 
: 
 A well-connected society is an essential component of economic growth so I was pleased to recently announce the Government’s preferred providers for the final Rural Broadband Initiative contracts worth $14.4 million. The contracts provide for 193 provincial schools 183 rural public libraries 37 rural hospitals and 10 health centres to receive fibre connections. In addition 57 remote schools will be upgraded to faster broadband using wireless technology capable of speeds of at least 10 megabits per second which will enable these schools to participate in the Network for Learning. 
Jonathan Young 
: What are the latest regions to begin work on their ultra-fast broadband roll-outs? 
Hon AMY ADAMS 
: I recently visited New Plymouth and Timaru to mark the start of the construction of the ultra-fast broadband network in each of those areas. The build in Timaru is due to be finished by March 2015 making the town one of New Zealand’s first places to experience the potential economic and social benefits of a fully functional ultra-fast broadband network. New Plymouth has also begun the roll-out of ultra-fast broadband which will involve over 265 kilometres of fibre laid along the city’s roads.
Bennett Paula: Appropriation (2010/11 Financial Review) Bill — Third Reading 
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Bennett Paula: Appropriation (2010/11 Financial Review) Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 01 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1821. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
 on behalf of the Minister of Finance: I move  
That the Appropriation (2010/11 Financial Review) Bill be now read a third time 
.
Bennett David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Bennett David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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3. 
DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East) 
 to the  
Minister of Immigration 
: What changes has the Government announced to deter mass arrivals of illegal immigrants and people smugglers from targeting New Zealand? 
Hon NATHAN GUY (Minister of Immigration) 
: 
 Yesterday I introduced the Immigration Amendment Bill which provides a range of measures to deter potential mass arrivals of illegal immigrants and people-smuggling to New Zealand. Key changes include mandatory detention of a mass arrival for an initial period of up to 6 months a 3-year temporary visa and an additional review before residence is granted. People granted residence can sponsor only immediate family members not extended family members. We know that New Zealand has been a target of such operations in recent years. We want to prevent people-smuggling ventures by making New Zealand a less desirable target.  
David Bennett 
: What is the need for the changes proposed?  
Hon NATHAN GUY 
: An attempt to illegally arrive in New Zealand by sea would be very dangerous and would put the lives of those involved at great risk. We want to discourage anyone from taking that risk. We also want to send a clear message that New Zealand is not an easy target for people-smugglers and their customers. New Zealand also remains committed to fulfilling its international good-citizen obligation by accepting refugees through a refugee quota of 750 per annum.
Blue Jackie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Blue Jackie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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6. 
Dr JACKIE BLUE (National) 
 to the  
Minister of Justice 
: How will the Alcohol Reform Bill provide for better community involvement in managing alcohol? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Justice) 
: 
 This Government is serious about letting communities have more say in managing alcohol. The Alcohol Reform Bill means local communities will be able to create local alcohol policies through local territorial authorities. Communities will also have more say in licensing decisions. Communities will be able to restrict and extend maximum opening hours; impose one-way doors which means that patrons who leave premises will not be able to return within a specified time; make sure alcohol outlets are not open near schools or churches; say no to more licences in their areas; and impose conditions on licensed premises.  
Dr Jackie Blue 
: What is the Government proposing in relation to the alcohol purchasing age? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS 
: The Government has been clear from the start that a vote on the alcohol purchasing age would be a conscience vote. All members in this House will have three options. One is a split purchase age restricting the off-licence purchase age to 20 and retaining the on-licence purchase age at 18. There are also two Supplementary Order Papers that I am aware of one providing for both the on-licence and off-licence purchasing age to be set at 20 and the other for the purchase age for both to be kept at the current age of 18. We are listening to the public of New Zealand and we are hoping to strike a balance between minimising harm and trusting responsible New Zealanders to make their own decisions about alcohol.
Parker David: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Parker David: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Can I ask how then the Opposition would ever get an urgent debate in respect of this issue given that there will be no ministerial decision required if the court finds there was no illegality? Can we then apply again? 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: To which letter are you referring? 
Hon DAVID PARKER 
: The decision on the Crafar farms Mr Deputy Speaker is a ministerial decision of Mr Williamson and others. It has been judicially reviewed in the courts as you say. But would that mean that once that judicial review decision comes out we can then put another application in because at the moment we cannot have it heard?
Mallard Trevor: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Mallard Trevor: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I am going back through my memory but my memory tells me that Mr Speaker Smith in ruling earlier had said that when the decision was made that would be the appropriate time. I think there was quite a lot of discussion earlier about whether it was appropriate to have a debate and he said when the decision had been made it would be. I just hope that you did read his decision and his ruling on that matter before you made this one.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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9. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
 to the  
Prime Minister 
: Does he have confidence in all of his Ministers; if so why? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister) 
: 
 Yes because they are hard-working and they are working hard to bring about a brighter future for all New Zealanders. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: In respect of the Hon John Banks— 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: Tell us about Owen Glenn. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: I beg your pardon? 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: Tell us about Owen Glenn. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: Tell us about you shall we? 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Order! The member is asking a question of the Prime Minister— 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: And he is being rude and interrupting and your job is to stop him so I can ask the question. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: That will equally apply to any member who implies that the Chair is not doing his job. The member should ask his question and get on with his business. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: Thank you very much—and when I get a bit of peace and quiet I will. In respect of the Hon John Banks is he holding Mr Banks to a different standard from the one he would hold a Minister from his own party to as numerous experienced commentators have alleged? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: No. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: If he has confidence in the Minister for Land Information does that mean that he is holding him to a different standard from Nick Smith Pansy Wong and Richard Worth all of whom were deemed guilty of wrongfully using their influence? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: No.
Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The short answer is yes. But the member is also aware that the Standing Orders absolutely preclude any opportunity for this House to debate a matter that is sub judice before the courts. And on that basis it is ruled out.
Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Roy Eric: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: We are confined by the fact that we have a decision by Ministers of the Crown and a judicial process in the Court of Appeal. That is what actually confines us. 
Kevin Hague 
: Point of order. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I have dealt with this matter Mr Hague.
Norman Russel: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Norman Russel: Urgent Debates Declined — Overseas Investment Rules—Sale of Crafar Farms Hon John Banks—Police Investigation into Electoral Spending 
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Dr RUSSEL NORMAN (Co-Leader—Green) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.  
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I have adduced this matter. I hope the member is not wanting to traverse material that I have already ruled on. 
Dr RUSSEL NORMAN 
: My question to you is: you said we had already had an urgent debate on this matter. Could you tell me when that urgent debate happened?
Roy Eric: Visitors — European Parliament—Delegation 
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Roy Eric: Visitors — European Parliament—Delegation 
[Sitting date: 01 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1767. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I have much pleasure in informing the House that a parliamentary delegation of members of the European Parliament led by Richard Ashworth representing the United Kingdom is present in the gallery. I am sure members would wish that the delegation be welcomed.
Roy Eric: Obituaries — Hon Sir Peter Wilfred Tapsell KNZM MBE 
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Roy Eric: Obituaries — Hon Sir Peter Wilfred Tapsell KNZM MBE 
[Sitting date: 01 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1767. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I regret to inform the House of the death on 5 April 2012 of the Hon Sir Peter Wilfred Tapsell KNZM MBE who represented the electorate of Eastern Maori from 1981 to 1996. From 1984 to 1987 he was Minister of Internal Affairs of Civil Defence and for the Arts and Associate Minister of Local Government and of Tourism. From 1987 to 1989 Sir Peter served as Minister of Police of Forestry of Lands of Recreation and Sport and of Survey and Land Information and was the Minister in charge of the Valuation Department. He was Minister of Defence in 1990. Sir Peter was Speaker of the House of Representatives from 1993 to 1996. I desire on behalf of this House to express our sense of the loss we have sustained and our sympathy with the relatives of the late former member. I now ask members to stand with me and observe a period of silence as a mark of our respect for his memory. 
Honourable members stood as a mark of respect.
Personal Explanations — Ministerial Conduct—Quote Incorrectly Attributed to Prime Minister 
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Personal Explanations — Ministerial Conduct—Quote Incorrectly Attributed to Prime Minister 
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Personal Explanations 
Ministerial Conduct—Quote Incorrectly Attributed to Prime Minister 
DAVID SHEARER (Leader of the Opposition) 
: 
 I seek leave of the House to make a personal explanation to clarify a question that I made earlier in the day.  
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is sought for the honourable Leader of the Opposition to make a statement. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is none.  
DAVID SHEARER 
: During question time I attributed a quote to John Key in one of my questions. In fact that quote was actually made by David Farrar and I would like to apologise to them both.
Appropriation (2010/11 Financial Review) Bill — Third Reading 
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Appropriation (2010/11 Financial Review) Bill — Third Reading 
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Appropriation (2010/11 Financial Review) Bill 
Third Reading 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
 on behalf of the Minister of Finance: I move  
That the Appropriation (2010/11 Financial Review) Bill be now read a third time 
.  
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Appropriation (2010/11 Financial Review) Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bill read a third time.
Visitors — European Parliament—Delegation 
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Visitors — European Parliament—Delegation 
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Visitors 
European Parliament—Delegation 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I have much pleasure in informing the House that a parliamentary delegation of members of the European Parliament led by Richard Ashworth representing the United Kingdom is present in the gallery. I am sure members would wish that the delegation be welcomed.
Obituaries — Hon Sir Peter Wilfred Tapsell KNZM MBE 
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Obituaries — Hon Sir Peter Wilfred Tapsell KNZM MBE 
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Tuesday 1 May 2012 
Mr Deputy Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Obituaries 
Hon Sir Peter Wilfred Tapsell KNZM MBE 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I regret to inform the House of the death on 5 April 2012 of the Hon Sir Peter Wilfred Tapsell KNZM MBE who represented the electorate of Eastern Maori from 1981 to 1996. From 1984 to 1987 he was Minister of Internal Affairs of Civil Defence and for the Arts and Associate Minister of Local Government and of Tourism. From 1987 to 1989 Sir Peter served as Minister of Police of Forestry of Lands of Recreation and Sport and of Survey and Land Information and was the Minister in charge of the Valuation Department. He was Minister of Defence in 1990. Sir Peter was Speaker of the House of Representatives from 1993 to 1996. I desire on behalf of this House to express our sense of the loss we have sustained and our sympathy with the relatives of the late former member. I now ask members to stand with me and observe a period of silence as a mark of our respect for his memory. 
Honourable members stood as a mark of respect.
Barry Maggie: Taxation (International Investment and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading 
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Barry Maggie: Taxation (International Investment and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 01 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1788. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore) 
: 
 I rise in support of the third reading of the Taxation (International Investment and Remedial Matters) Bill. It is set down today for its third reading and is sponsored by the Minister of Revenue Peter Dunne. It is very much in keeping with National’s policies—our fiscal policies. It is a measure that was first outlined in our 2010 Budget: that we would deliver a major tax package that would reform the tax system to make it fairer more sustainable and a better support for economic growth. I believe that this bill does that.  
The taxation bill is really a natural extension of our earlier international tax reforms and it builds on and extends those reforms. The active income exemption brings our tax system into line with the policies and practices in other countries and it really will help New Zealand - based businesses to compete more effectively in foreign markets by freeing them up from a tax cost that similar companies in other countries do not face. So it is a basic fairness issue. One of the examples that is topical and I think relevant to us today is that a New Zealand - owned manufacturing plant in China will now generally face the same tax rate as other manufacturers competing in China.  
There are a number of measures of course in the bill. It rationalises our international tax calculation methods; it also maintains the exemption for investments in Australia. It also removes a tax barrier to non-resident investment in New Zealand corporate bonds so it will attract investment to New Zealand and that is pretty much in keeping with the recommendations that were made in 2009 by the Capital Market Development Taskforce. It wanted to see the approved issuer levy be reduced from 2 percent to nil for some public issues of debt by New Zealand residents. That has been done by this bill. There are a number of other messages and elements within it that have been outlined by my other colleagues and by the people on the other side of the House. We are all speaking in support of it. I think that from my point of view I see it as a consistent and fair bill that promotes the sort of integrity that we need as a nation. So I commend this bill to the House and look forward to it being passed today. 
Bill read a third time.
Shearer David: Personal Explanations — Ministerial Conduct—Quote Incorrectly Attributed to Prime Minister 
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Shearer David: Personal Explanations — Ministerial Conduct—Quote Incorrectly Attributed to Prime Minister 
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DAVID SHEARER (Leader of the Opposition) 
: 
 I seek leave of the House to make a personal explanation to clarify a question that I made earlier in the day.  
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is sought for the honourable Leader of the Opposition to make a statement. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is none.  
DAVID SHEARER 
: During question time I attributed a quote to John Key in one of my questions. In fact that quote was actually made by David Farrar and I would like to apologise to them both.
Hayes John: Taxation (International Investment and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading 
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Hayes John: Taxation (International Investment and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading 
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JOHN HAYES (National—Wairarapa) 
: 
 I want to point out that the Labour Party has just indicated that it wants a fair tax system. I absolutely agree with that. It needs to hit everybody reasonably. The second thing Labour has done is that it has said it wants a system that does not disadvantage New Zealand companies operating offshore and competing with foreign ventures. That is what the Taxation (International Investment and Remedial Matters) Bill does. The bit that Labour members do not seem to comprehend is that it is only by lifting our economic performance that we can create jobs that we can boost incomes that we can improve living standards including in the Wairarapa and that we can then provide the world-class public services that Kiwis want particularly in the health and education areas. 
The centrepiece of the Budget in 2010 was the delivery of a major tax package which was about reforming the tax system to make it fairer as the Labour Party wants to make it more sustainable as the Labour Party wants and to provide better support for economic growth which this whole House wants. That is what this bill is about. The Taxation (International Investment and Remedial Matters) Bill promotes integrity across the tax system. Integrity means fairness so why would you stand against this bill or even parts of it? The point of the bill is that it is going to bring New Zealand’s tax rules into line with the practice in other countries. For example a New Zealand - owned manufacturing plant in China will now generally face the same tax rate once this bill is passed as other manufacturers operating in China. The changes will improve the competitiveness of the New Zealand tax system and encourage businesses with international operations to remain to establish themselves here permanently and to expand. 
I do not want to spend a long time this afternoon but I just want to make two more points. The bill modifies the thin capitalisation rules that apply to investors with controlled foreign companies so that these apply to investors in non-portfolio companies that use active income for the active income exemption or the Australian exemption. If we did not have such rules there could be an incentive for businesses to reduce their taxable income by stacking additional debt against their New Zealand operations when in fact they are using these funds to equity finance their exempt offshore investments. So the whole point of this bill is to make it fair. I support this bill unreservedly and commend it to the House. Thank you.
Brownlee Gerry: Offices of Parliament — Address to Governor-General 
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Brownlee Gerry: Offices of Parliament — Address to Governor-General 
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I move  
That a respectful Address be presented to His Excellency the Governor-General commending to His Excellency the alterations to the appropriations for the 2011/12 financial year in respect of Vote Audit Vote Ombudsmen and Vote Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment and the appropriations and information for the 2012/13 financial year in respect of Vote Audit Vote Ombudsmen and Vote Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment. 
 In order to maintain the independence of the Offices of Parliament the Public Finance Act provides for funding for the Office of the Controller and Auditor-General the Office of the Ombudsmen and the Office of the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment to be determined by Parliament through the Officers of Parliament Committee. The House then presents an address to the Governor-General commending the appropriation. The Officers of Parliament Committee heard evidence from each of the offices and examined those submissions with evidence from Treasury. The Officers of Parliament Committee reached its decision on the funding required for the offices to carry out the duties required of them. The details for each vote are set out in the Officers of Parliament Committee report presented to the House on 3 April of this year. These parliamentary offices do a very good job inside our democracy. They are important in giving the public confidence in the scrutiny that comes upon Governments and indeed the parliamentary process in some cases. I think the ongoing support for them is overwhelming in the House and the public respect for these offices is extremely high. With those few comments I move the motion.
O'Connor Simon: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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O'Connor Simon: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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9. 
SIMON O’CONNOR (National—Tamaki) 
 to the  
Associate Minister of Education 
: What recent announcements has the Government made on the school network upgrade project? 
Hon CRAIG FOSS (Associate Minister of Education) 
: 
 This week I announced that an additional 90 schools will receive Government-subsidised internal network upgrades in readiness for ultra-fast broadband. This programme is a key part in ensuring that the Government’s significant investment in ultra-fast broadband delivers the expected benefits for schools and our young people. One-third of all eligible schools have now had their networks upgraded as we roll out our policy for 21st century schools. 
Simon O’Connor 
: What are the benefits of upgrading our schools’ internal networks? 
Hon CRAIG FOSS 
: These upgrades will allow our schools throughout New Zealand to realise the benefits of ultra-fast broadband. Having better access to ultra-fast broadband will contribute to our students achieving better educational outcomes. Making New Zealand’s schools some of the most connected in the world is a crucial part of building a more competitive and productive economy which is one of this National Government’s key priorities.
Collins Judith: Appointments — Independent Police Conduct Authority 
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Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Justice) 
: 
 I move  
That pursuant to sections 5 and 5A of the Independent Police Conduct Authority Act 1988 and section 32 of the Crown Entities Act 2004 this House recommends His Excellency the Governor-General appoint Judge Sir David James Carruthers KNZM as chairperson of the Independent Police Conduct Authority for a term of five years from 16 April 2012.  
The function of the Independent Police Conduct Authority is to investigate complaints alleging any misconduct or neglect of duty by a member of the police or concerning any practice policy or procedure of the police affecting the complainant. The authority is also responsible for investigating any incident involving serious bodily harm or death notified to the authority by the Commissioner of Police. 
Independent agencies such as the Independent Police Conduct Authority are critical to democracy in New Zealand. They contribute to our strong and independent justice system and help to maintain high public confidence in our institutions. Section 5 of the Independent Police Conduct Authority Act prescribes that the authority consists of up to five members appointed by the Governor-General on the recommendation of the House of Representatives. Section 5A requires that one member is to be appointed as the chairperson of the authority. That person must be a judge or a retired judge. 
The authority has been ably chaired by Justice Lowell Goddard QC for the past 5 years and I would like to acknowledge the fine work done by Justice Goddard during her term in office. There are currently three additional members of the authority. There also exists the possibility of a legal challenge being made to the High Court in relation to a report of the authority and to that end I believe it to be preferable for the chairperson to be from a different bench or to be a retired judge. 
Judge Sir David Carruthers is a former Chief District Court Judge and former Principal Youth Court Judge. He was appointed a District Court judge in 1985. He has had an extensive and impressive judicial career. Sir David has been chairperson of the New Zealand Parole Board since 2005. I welcome the support of the parties in the House for this very important appointment.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 The shadow Leader of the House is asking me to give confirmation to his proposal that the Government does nothing; I will not do that.
Hughes Gareth: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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12. 
GARETH HUGHES (Green) 
 to the  
Minister of Energy and Resources 
: Has he received advice on the economic impacts of a major oil spill off the coast of Kaikoura? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY (Minister of Energy and Resources) 
: 
 No but I have received comparative advice on the economic impacts of the oil and gas industry off the Taranaki coast where the total industry contributes $2 billion to the local economy and provides 5000 jobs all without a major oil spill since 1865. 
Gareth Hughes 
: Has the Minister seen the letter from the Mayor of Kaikoura District Winston Gray which identifies all the environmental risks from the blocks right next to the marine mammal sanctuary including the significant depth 2.5 kilometres the fact that fault lines go though the blocks and the fact that we are talking about the location of protected species such as the Hector’s dolphin and which says the mayor does not have confidence in the capacity of New Zealand’s authority to react to an oil spill or does the Minister not think the environmental effects of an oil spill are important to look into? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: Yes. 
Gareth Hughes 
: Given that the extent of the Government’s consultation with the Kaikoura community has simply been a teleconference between the Kaikoura District Council and the Ministry of Economic Development and that the whole community has expressed significant opposition including people in six out of 10 households in Kaikoura signing the petition will the Minister commit to community consultation? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: I am advised that my officials are engaged with the local Kaikoura community. Certainly people—particularly those in leadership—have written to me. I have responded to them and I am going to continue engaging with them. 
Gareth Hughes 
: Does the Minister think a single teleconference is sufficient community consultation? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: I was not involved in the teleconference. I could not possibly comment. What I can comment on is the community engagement that my department is involved in with the Kaikoura community and with wider New Zealand. I enjoy the community’s advice. 
Gareth Hughes 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Surely the Minister can have an opinion on whether it is sufficient to teleconference or not— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! It is difficult for me to ask a Minister to give a more comprehensive answer than the Minister did to that kind of question. I think we have to be reasonable. 
Kevin Hague 
: I seek leave to table the letter from Kaikoura District Council mayor Winston Gray calling for a moratorium on the block tenders and full community consultation. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 









Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Lee Melissa: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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7. 
MELISSA LEE (National) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development 
: What recent announcements have been made to improve the way the Government deals with young people who have mental health problems? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 Yesterday the Prime Minister announced a number of initiatives to better support young people dealing with mental health issues. These are designed to provide significantly better earlier and more modern help for young people suffering from mental illness. The total contribution of the Prime Minister’s youth mental health package from Vote Social Development is $12.2 million over 4 years. 
Melissa Lee 
: How will this initiative better support secondary students in schools and in their communities? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: Part of the package places specially trained youth workers into selected secondary schools and into youth one-stop shops as part of the youth mental health package. An extra 19 youth workers will be introduced. This will support an estimated 20000 students in 27 schools at a cost of $8.6 million over 4 years. 
Melissa Lee 
: How will these changes support parents families and friends to help young people suffering from mental health issues? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: We know it is not always easy to work teenagers out in any forms actually but particularly when they are showing signs of distress and to know how to respond to that. Parents families and friends have an important part to play in identifying mental health issues in young people close to them and for many of them they are not sure what is a real issue and what is actually normal teenage behaviour. So an extra $1 million over 4 years has been allocated for a new contestable fund for non-governmental organisations to help them get better information out to parents families and friends who need it.