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O'Connor Damien: Urgent Debates Declined — Biosecurity Management—Contamination of Imported Palm Kernel ExpellerText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeO'Connor Damien: Urgent Debates Declined — Biosecurity Management—Contamination of Imported Palm Kernel Expeller[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11194. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAMIEN O’CONNOR (Labour—West Coast - Tasman):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I am not wanting in any way to challenge your judgment or ruling on this but I would seek some clarification on the point of urgency because if the Speaker considers that the incursion itself is required before an urgent debate isaccorded the House then I would be very concerned. At what point of warning or possible incursion can we consider that biosecurity is an urgent matter? I am not trying to trifle with the House or yourself Mr Speaker but it is indeed a genuine question. Do we have the ability to debate in the House the risk or do we have to wait until we have an incursion and then debate the clean-up? This is of utmost importance and the No. 1 issue for primary industries in this country so I seek your guidance on the point of urgency.
Carter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Biosecurity Management—Contamination of Imported Palm Kernel ExpellerText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Biosecurity Management—Contamination of Imported Palm Kernel Expeller[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11194. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from the Hon Damien O’Connor seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the discovery by a New Zealand dairy farmer of the remains of a cloven-hoofed animal in his consignment of imported palm kernel expeller from Malaysia or Indonesia and the subsequent failure of both the Minister for Primary Industries and his ministry to adequately respond to the issue. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. However the ministry’s response to biosecurity risk from the importation of palm kernel is ongoing. The big hurdle to get over in an urgent debate application is whether the matter has reached the stage that the business of the House should be set aside. The test is a high one. An incident has been reported and the ministry is working with authorities in Malaysia. Further options are being developed for consultation. An urgent debate was held on the ministry’s effectiveness in preparing for and responding to biosecurity incursions in New Zealand earlier this year. I am not convinced that I would be justified in setting aside the business of the House again today. The application is therefore declined.
Jones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeJones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11194. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]6.Hon SHANE JONES (Labour)to theMember in charge of the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill: Why has he agreed to the Government’s amendments to his Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill when as the Salvation Army’s social policy spokesperson Major Campbell Roberts says the Government’s latest proposals have nothing to do with minimising the damage done to communities by gambling?TE URUROA FLAVELL (Member in charge of the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill):Mēnā ka āta titiro koe ki te pātai ēhara tērā i te pātai. Ēhara tērā i te pātai—[Interruption ] Ā ka pai kai reira te pātai.[If you examine the question that is not one. That is not a question— [Interruption] Oh good there is the question. ]Hon Tau Henare: Turned over a new leaf.TE URUROA FLAVELL: Āe turned over a new leaf. Kai te pēnei taku whakautu ki te mema i mua kei te aroha atu ki te Salvation Army. Kaha nei rātau ki te mahi ki te karo i ēnei āhuatanga. Ēngari kia kaua tātau e pōhēhē ka mutu mai i roto i tōku pire. Mēnā ka ngākaunui mai tērā mema tāpirihia atu ētahi kōrero ā te wā ka eke mai ki roto i te Whare Pāremata. Kātahi ka kitea mai ai mēnā e ōrite ana te hiahia ki te whakamāmā i te āhuatanga o te ngau o te petipeti ki Te Ao Māori ki te hunga rawakore.[The tenor of my response to the member previously was that I empathise with the Salvation Army. It works hard to avoid situations like these. But we should not be deluded by the fact that my bill will put an end to it. If that member is keen add some comments to the bill when it arrives into the House of Parliament. It will be seen then whether the desire to ease the gnawing effect of gambling on Māoridom on the poor ones is the same. ]Hon Shane Jones: Is this bill in either Māori or English a bitter pill or a dead rat?Mr SPEAKER: Order! That is not a question that is in any way related to the primary question.
Jones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeJones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11193. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]5.Hon SHANE JONES (Labour)to theMember in charge of the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill: Why did he agree to continue with the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill when at select committee all of its main provisions were either removed or weakened?TE URUROA FLAVELL (Member in charge of the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill):Ko taua pātai anō. Kātahi anō ia ka pātai ia ka pātai i Te Reo Māori. He aha te take kei te whakatuarua i te pātai?[It is that same question again. He has just asked that in the Māori language. Why is he repeating it? ]Hon Shane Jones: Supplementary question.Mr SPEAKER: Supplementary question the Hon Shane Jones.Hon Trevor Mallard: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Is saying that a member is just repeating a question again when it is a primary question actually an answer?Mr SPEAKER: On this occasion it is. I think the member could have taken quite a lot of time to repeat earlier answers but that would adequately have covered it. I have called a supplementary question if the honourable member wants to deliver it.Hon Shane Jones: Given the member’s pride in being at the table how does this bill show Māori there is value at being at the table?TE URUROA FLAVELL: Mr Speaker—[Interruption ]Mr SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption ] Order! Would the Hon Tau Henare please quieten down so I can hear the answer to his question before I forget the question.TE URUROA FLAVELL: He member’s bill tāku pīre. I tērā wiki e ai ki ngā kōrero e 74 ngā members’ bills i tae mai ki roto i tēnei Whare ko te tikanga i roto i te Tari o te Clerk. Ka mutu i roto i ngā whiriwhiringa ka tīmata mai ai i roto i ngā kōrero mō ngā wild animals tae atu ki ngā wheel clamping. Koinei ngā kaupapa i roto i tērā o ngā komiti. Nō reira kāore au i rongo i tētahi pire e pā ana ki tēnei mate e ngau nei i Te Ao Māori me te kī a tērā mema. Mēnā kei te ngākaunui tērā mema me tana rōpū ki tēnei mea e ngau nei i te momo pōhara he aha te take kāore tētahi paku pire i runga i te Pepa Whakarārangi Take Pāremata e hāngai ana ki tēnei kaupapa?[My bill is a member’s bill. According to what has been stated 74 members’ bills arrived in this House last week but technically speaking in the Office of the Clerk. Furthermore within the considerations it started with accounts about wild animals and including wheel clamping. These in fact were the proposals in that other committee. Therefore I did not hear one bill pertaining to this ailment that gnaws away at Māoridom according to that member. If that member and his party are being kindly disposed towards this thing that chews away at this form of poverty why is there not a small bill on the Order Paper from them that relates to this matter? ]
Jones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeJones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11192. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]4.Hon SHANE JONES (Labour)to theMember in charge of the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill: How can he proceed with the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill given that the Salvation Army says that the Government’s rewrite of his bill means that the aim of his original bill has been largely cancelled out?TE URUROA FLAVELL (Member in charge of the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill):Kua oti kē i a au te whakamārama i te āhuatanga o taku whakautu ki tērā pātai. Ēngari me pēnei pea te kōrero. Mēnā e aro nui nei tērā mema ka mutu te Pāti Reipa ki tēnei mea o te whakakore i te petipeti kaua e haere ki te Skycity ki te mātakitaki i te whutupaoro.[I have already explained the nature of my response to that question. Perhaps I should put it this way. If that member and the Labour Party at the end of it all really heeded this thing in respect of abolishing gambling do not go to Skycity to watch the rugby. ]Mr SPEAKER: Question No. 5 the Hon Shane Jones.Hon Shane Jones: Supplementary question.Mr SPEAKER: Supplementary question the Hon Shane Jones.Hon Shane Jones: Me pēhea rānei te mema e whakamārama atu ki te hunga e noho mai rā i roto te Ikaroa-Rāwhiti ko te hua o roto i tēnei pire he koretake rawa atu?[How will the member explain to those living in the Ikaroa-Rāwhiti electorate that the outcome in this bill is absolutely ineffective? ]Mr SPEAKER: If the member wishes to answer—yes.TE URUROA FLAVELL: Kāre au i te tino mōhio mēnā e tika ana te whakamārama o te kaiwhakapākehā ēngari kai te pai waiho tērā ki reira. I roto i ngā whiriwhiringa mō tēnei pire i kitea mai ētahi hua o roto i ngā kōrero. Tuatahi ko te hunga e rāwekeweke nei e tinihanga nei i roto i te tukunga o te moni ki tēnā ki tēnā kua katia tērā āhuatanga. Mō te āhuatanga o ngā mīhini e karo nei i te ngote mai o te moni kei reira tonu tētahi whiriwhiringa. Ēhara i te mea kia pēnei i tōku ake pire—ēngari o roto i ngā whiriwhiringa e kī ana te reo Pākehā ko ngā “regulations”. Kei reira tonu te painga.[I do not really know whether the interpreter’s interpretation in English was appropriate or not but that is fine. Let us leave that there. In the consultations on this bill some outcomes were uncovered in the talks. Firstly in respect of those who fiddled and took liberties with the distribution of funds to that group and that organisation that situation has been stopped. In respect of machines avoiding money being siphoned off a consideration is still there. It is not as though and like my own bill—but in the negotiations there are things in there called “regulations” in the English language. The benefit is still there. ]Mr SPEAKER: Question No. 5 the Hon Shane Jones.Hon Shane Jones: Not a supplementary question?Mr SPEAKER: The member has had a supplementary question.
Jones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeJones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11191. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]3.Hon SHANE JONES (Labour)to theMember in charge of the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill: Does his Gambling (Gambling HarmReduction) Amendment Bill as amended at select committee fulfil his original intentions of the bill he introduced?TE URUROA FLAVELL (Member in charge of the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill):Pēnei i ētahi o ngā mema o te Whare Pāremata mēnā ka noho i tērā taha o te taiapa he uaua kia eke ngā pire katoa ki runga i te taumata e tika ana. Mā te kōrero mā te wānanga mā te tō mai i tētahi wāhanga mā te whakatakoto mai i tētahi wāhanga ka ea. I tēnei wā kāre i tino eke ēngari kei reira tonu tētahi painga. Mēnā ko te painga ka puta ki ngā hapori Māori ki ngā mea e noho nei i te wāhi rawakore koinā te mutunga mai o te pai.[Like some members of the House if they sit on that side of the fence it is difficult for all bills to reach the desired threshold. It is by conversing discussing dragging forth a provision or making one that it will be taken into account. At this stage it has not quite made it but a benefit is still there. If it makes it to the Māori communities to the ones living in poverty so be it. It cannot get any better than that. ]Hon Shane Jones: Given the hopeless nature of the current bill what support is he expecting and will he receive anything supportive from Dr Sharples?Mr SPEAKER: Order! That question does not relate to the primary question.
Jones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeJones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11191. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]2.Hon SHANE JONES (Labour)to theMember in charge of the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill: How can he proceed with the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill when the Problem Gambling Foundation says it will have little if any effect on problem gambling?TE URUROA FLAVELL (Member in charge of the Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill):Kai te aroha atu ki te rōpū nei ki te Problem Gambling Foundation. Kei te kaha nei rātau ki te kōkiri ki te whakatikatika i ngā raruraru kua pā mai ki te hunga e rongo nei i te ngau o tēnei o ngā mamae. Ēhara i te mea kei te whakaae atu ki tā rātau e kī nei i te mea mēnā ka whakakotahi nei i tōku pire ki tērā o te Minita ā ka tae mai ki roto i te Whare Pāremata ā ngā marama kei mua i te aroaro. Ko tāku e kī nei āe ka eke ki te taumata e pīrangitia ana ēngari me titiro whānui tōnu. Koina te pai o te noho o tōku pire ki te taha o tērā o te Minita ka kite mai ai i ngā hua.[I empathise with this organisation the Problem Gambling Foundation. It is really working hard to address and to rectify the problems that have affected the ones who have experienced this pain. It is not as though I am agreeing to what it is saying because if I combine my bill with that belonging to the Minister it will arrive in the House in the months ahead. What I am saying here is yes it will make it to the desired threshold but we must really look broadly. That is why my bill sits comfortably alongside the Minister’s bill. It will see the benefits. ]Hon Shane Jones: Has the member considered an amendment to alter the bill’s title to the “Consumption of Dead Rodents (Harm Reduction) Bill”?Mr SPEAKER: Order! That is not a satisfactory supplementary question.Hon Shane Jones: I’m prepared to say it in Māori.Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member can move to question No. 3 if he so desires.
Robertson Grant: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson Grant: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11189. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]12.GRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Leader—Labour)to thePrime Minister: Does he stand by all the answers given on his behalf to Oral Question No 3 on 13 June 2013?Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister):Yes.Grant Robertson: Why then did he say on 30 May about Mr Dunne “I accept him absolutely at his word … I’ve got no reason to doubt that.” when he had been told on 29 May by his chief of staff that Mr Dunne was not complying with the Henry inquiry?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: Because I believed that in the fullness of time he would comply.Grant Robertson: Why did he tell the media on 30 May that he did not need to seek further assurances from Mr Dunne about the leaking of the report when he had been informed the day before that Mr Dunne was not complying with the inquiry?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: Because it is important to understand that I was not running the inquiry. As I said the whole way through I would wait for the report. I was advised on 29 May that there was email correspondence between Mr Dunne and Andrea Vance. I was also told that he was not fully compliant with the inquiry but parties were hopeful that he would.Grant Robertson: Why did he tell Radio Live on 4 June about the Henry report “I’m as much in the dark as anybody else. I haven’t seen a draft of the report. I haven’t had any updates on it.” when in fact he had had updates on it and that Peter Dunne was not complying and when he had regular updates on it between 29 May and 5 June?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: Because that is absolutely correct. I did not get a draft copy of the report. I did not have an update on the report.Grant Robertson: You did.Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I was aware initially that there was non-compliance. I was also told later on that he was going to be fully complying with the inquiry. That proved to be incorrect as well.Grant Robertson: In light of that answer and the amended answer given on his behalf that he had “several conversations” with his chief of staff about the Henry reportbetween 29 May and 5 June did those conversations include an update on whether Mr Dunne was cooperating with the inquiry?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: Yes. On 29 May my chief of staff advised me that there had been email correspondence between Mr Dunne and Andrea Vance and that Mr Dunne’s office had advised my chief of staff that he was not fully complying with the inquiry. On 30 May I was advised that progress was being made and it was likely that he would be complying and on 4 June I was advised that although some compliance had taken place not all of it had taken place.Grant Robertson: Why has the Prime Minister misled the New Zealand public about what he knew about Peter Dunne’s compliance and why does he continue to bend the truth on occasion after occasion?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I know the member is desperate to put his hand up for the leadership bid that is going on in the Labour Party but I have not misled anybody.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11189. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: That is not the least bit helpful to the order of this House.
Robertson Grant: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson Grant: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11189. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]GRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Leader—Labour):My question is to the Prime Minister: does he stand by all the answers given—Hon Gerry Brownlee: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I think we have heard enough of that question now.
Sabin Mike: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSabin Mike: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11188. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]11.MIKE SABIN (National—Northland)to theMinister of Transport: How is the Government working with the Auckland Council to progress the Puhoi to Wellsford Road of National Significance?Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Minister of Transport):The Auckland Council has recommended that the road progress through a fast-tracked consenting process and that the Government’s Environmental Protection Authority hold hearings through a board of inquiry and issue a decision within 9 months of notifying applications. I commend the Auckland Council’s regional development and operations committee for its foresight and look forward to improving this vital traffic and economic link to the north.Mike Sabin: What has been the response to the decision to fast track the Pūhoi to Wellsford road of national significance?Hon GERRY BROWNLEE: I have seen numerous reports praising the decision to fast track the consenting process. One referred to the Pūhoi to Warkworth and on to Wellsford road of national significance as the umbilical cord to the north. Another said the project “cannot come soon enough” and that the critics of this essential piece of roading infrastructure are doing no more than engaging in rhetoric. I note the spokesmen for both the Greens and Labour have been silent on this matter.Mike Sabin: When does the Government expect to begin the Environmental Protection Authority process?Hon GERRY BROWNLEE: The New Zealand Transport Agency advised me that it expects to lodge applications for the Pūhoi to Warkworth section of this project with the Environmental Protection Authority in August of this year. It will go through a 9 month hearing process. We aim to be construction ready by mid-2014.
Logie Jan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLogie Jan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11185. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]7.JAN LOGIE (Green)to theAttorney-General: Does he agree with the New Zealand Law Society that “The rule of law lies at the very foundation of a free and democratic society and is essential for the protection of human rights”; if not why not?Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General):Yes although I would observe that it is the rule of law not the rule of lawyers and it is certainly not the rule of the mob which is the Green Party’s preferred approach.Jan Logie: Does he also then agree with the Law Society’s view that “a number of recent legislative measures are fundamentally in conflict with the rule of law”?Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: No I do not.Jan Logie: Does he stand by that response given that the Law Society identified that this Government has passed five laws that remove the courts’ constitutional role of judicial review three laws that the give the executive—i.e. his Cabinet—unjustified powers three laws that have serious human rights concerns and five laws that he himself gave negative New Zealand Bill of Rights Act reports to?Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: No I do not agree with the Law Society. Moreover I say for example in relation to section 7 reports that I provide those reports as the law officer of the Crown and then they are made available to Parliament so that it can debate the issues. The Law Society has got the wrong end of the stick when it goes on about section 7 reports because it does not understand the procedure set out and adopted by this Parliament for many years.Jan Logie: How was his last performance appraisal with the Prime Minister given that the first role of the Attorney-General in the Cabinet Manual is “maintaining the rule of law” and the Law Society has identified he is not doing that and is therefore clearly failing to protect New Zealanders’ human rights?Mr SPEAKER: I call the Hon Chris Finlayson in so far as he sees a ministerial responsibility.Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: Well I have my priorities meeting with the Prime Minister tonight and I expect that my report card will be what it was last time—outstanding? Outstanding.
Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11181. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]4.KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National)to theMinister of Internal Affairs: What are the Government’s plans for providing more services online?Hon CHRIS TREMAIN (Minister of Internal Affairs):Yesterday the Prime Minister and I launched the Government ICT Strategy and Action Plan to 2017. One of the key initiatives in this new plan aims for all new transactional services to be offered online by 2017. Online options are faster easier and cheaper to use and will be the default option into the future. This relates to our Better Public Services result 10 which aims for 70 percent of New Zealanders’ most common transactions with Government to be completed online by 2017. The services that will increasingly move online include passport renewals and tax payments amongst a range of other initiatives.Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi: How will New Zealanders’ private information be protected as more services move online?Hon CHRIS TREMAIN: New Zealanders’ information will be better protected with oversight from the Government Chief Information Officer who will report to Ministers on any security risks. The Government Chief Information Officer will also implement improved privacy and security standards and controls across the public sector. The Government Chief Information Officer has already reviewed all kiosk and internet-based information and communications technology systems following issues with Ministry of Social Development kiosks last year. All Government departments have been required to take action to tighten up their services and ensure that New Zealanders’ information is being protected.Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi: What evidence has he seen that New Zealanders are demanding online services?Hon CHRIS TREMAIN: We are seeing a huge demand for online services already with 68 percent of people applying for financial assistance from the Ministry of Social Development now doing that online which is up from 48 percent when the targets were set last year. About 35 percent of adult passport renewals were being done online within 6 months of this service launching. It is clear that there are huge demands for theseservices and this plan the Government ICT Strategy and Action Plan to 2017 takes this country forward.Hon Trevor Mallard: Does he have confidence in his Government Chief Information Officer given his performance in relation to the oversight of Novopay where he chose not to look at the problems because no one asked him to?Hon CHRIS TREMAIN: I have total confidence in the Government Chief Information Officer. He did not have a mandate at that particular point in time for the oversight of Novopay. He now has that mandate and I am confident he will do a great job.
Carter David: Speaker’s Rulings — Electoral Act—Registration and Recognition of United FutureText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Speaker’s Rulings — Electoral Act—Registration and Recognition of United Future[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11176. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I will certainly look into that matter but the decision is effective today so the funding—the additional funding—ceases from today.
Mallard Trevor: Speaker’s Rulings — Electoral Act—Registration and Recognition of United FutureText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Speaker’s Rulings — Electoral Act—Registration and Recognition of United Future[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11176. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. It is a relatively minor point but will you make clear as far as the funding is concerned that there is no question of the backdating of the previously unused funding that I think you have made clear exists?
Carter David: Speaker’s Rulings — Electoral Act—Registration and Recognition of United FutureText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Speaker’s Rulings — Electoral Act—Registration and Recognition of United Future[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11176. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: As I said in my ruling I will revisit the matter if the party becomes re-registered and I will consider advice certainly from the Clerk of the House on that occasion. I can give no other information about further advice I may receive at that opportunity. In relation to the second point the member raised of whether I have read the letter that was forwarded from the honourable member this morning—yes I have. The first point raised in the member’s point of order was what day this becomes effective and in my ruling I have said that it is effective from today.
Peters Winston: Speaker’s Rulings — Electoral Act—Registration and Recognition of United FutureText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: Speaker’s Rulings — Electoral Act—Registration and Recognition of United Future[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11176. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek clarification as to your justification for the operative date of your decision. Second I want to know whether you have read the letter I wrote to you that recites the salient points of a barrister’s legal opinion on this issue. And third we would like to know on what legal authoritative basis you would be reconsidering this issue should the United Future party as you put it regain its membership. Because the fact of the matter is that if it did not have 500 members—and by his own words Mr Dunne said last week that its membership has quadrupled and on Sunday was now over 1000 which means he is talking about 250 roughly when it failed to declare a statutory declaration—I want to know on what legal authoritative basis or for that matter Standing Order you would be reconsidering membership given that I have also recited to you the case ofFitzgerald v Muldoonand the consequences if people decide to act outside the law of this country.
Local Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Bill (No 2) — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLocal Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11263. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Local Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Bill(No 2)First ReadingDebate resumed from 6 June.PHIL TWYFORD (Labour—Te Atatū):Labour supports this bill the Local Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Bill (No 2) as I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted. The bill allows for elected members and council officials to get on with the job of representing their communities and serving their local communities in contrast to the many pieces of legislation we have seen before this House recently that actually take power away from local communities. The bill pertains to local boards in Auckland which are an important part of the local body scene in Auckland. They are the voice of local communities.I want to pay tribute to a group of candidates for the local board in their area in west Auckland that I represent. Those candidates are Shane Henderson Russell Clark Sailauama Cheryl Talamaivao Mike Williams Will Flavell Ann Pala and Chris Cooper. They have a fantastic mixture of youth and experience. They are capable talented and jumping out of their skins to serve.Debate interrupted.
Urgent Debates Declined — Biosecurity Management—Contamination of Imported Palm Kernel ExpellerText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUrgent Debates Declined — Biosecurity Management—Contamination of Imported Palm Kernel Expeller[Sitting date: 25 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11194. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Urgent Debates DeclinedBiosecurity Management—Contamination of Imported Palm Kernel ExpellerMr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from the Hon Damien O’Connor seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the discovery by a New Zealand dairy farmer of the remains of a cloven-hoofed animal in his consignment of imported palm kernel expeller from Malaysia or Indonesia and the subsequent failure of both the Minister for Primary Industries and his ministry to adequately respond to the issue. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. However the ministry’s response to biosecurity risk from the importation of palm kernel is ongoing. The big hurdle to get over in an urgent debate application is whether the matter has reached the stage that the business of the House should be set aside. The test is a high one. An incident has been reported and the ministry is working with authorities in Malaysia. Further options are being developed for consultation. An urgent debate was held on the ministry’s effectiveness in preparing for and responding to biosecurity incursions in New Zealand earlier this year. I am not convinced that I would be justified in setting aside the business of the House again today. The application is therefore declined.Hon DAMIEN O’CONNOR (Labour—West Coast - Tasman):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I am not wanting in any way to challenge your judgment or ruling on this but I would seek some clarification on the point of urgency because if the Speaker considers that the incursion itself is required before an urgent debate isaccorded the House then I would be very concerned. At what point of warning or possible incursion can we consider that biosecurity is an urgent matter? I am not trying to trifle with the House or yourself Mr Speaker but it is indeed a genuine question. Do we have the ability to debate in the House the risk or do we have to wait until we have an incursion and then debate the clean-up? This is of utmost importance and the No. 1 issue for primary industries in this country so I seek your guidance on the point of urgency.Mr SPEAKER: And I have given my guidance to the House in my ruling. I fully accept the points the member is making. Biosecurity is of utmost importance to this country but in this case my responsibility under Standing Order 386 is to determine whether because of this particular incident and because of the letter I received from the honourable member a discussion is required today. I have ruled that that is not the case.
Sio William: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSio William: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11170. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Su’a WILLIAM SIO (Labour—Māngere):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I wonder whether this may not be a good time for you to take a look at Standing Order 48 and see whether you would give effect to that Standing Order.
Vote: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11170. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Immigration Amendment Bill be now read a third time.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes53New Zealand Labour 30; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a third time.
O'Connor Simon: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeO'Connor Simon: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11169. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SIMON O’CONNOR (National—Tāmaki):I am very pleased to rise in support of the Immigration Amendment Bill. I want to acknowledge the Minister of Immigration the Hon Michael Woodhouse. I believe that this is his first Government bill that is coming through the House. I also want to acknowledge the work of the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee.“Preparation” is not a bad word. Legislation that prepares for the future is not a bad principle whether to do with immigration or any other policy side. We have heard from others about their experiences and I think it is always good to acknowledge experience. One of the great things about this House is that pretty much 121 people have had experiences be it in taxis be it talking to refugees or be it visiting camps and so on. No one holds a monopoly on that. Nor does any party hold a monopoly on serving the vulnerable on compassion or on looking after people.This bill is a moderate bill. It is preparing to assist those people who ultimately come to New Zealand if they choose to come if they turn away from all the deterrents. This is a moderate bill to deal with 30 or more people so they can be taken to a safe location like the Māngere Refugee Resettlement Centre their status can be understood and they can then be reintegrated into the community. We have heard a lot of scaremongering from different people here. We have heard that people are going to be locked up in detention centres and all sorts of awful things but that is not what is happening. This is New Zealand. We engage with people however they come here but in this case with the bill we are putting in place a process to work with these people to identify who they are noticing they have come through an alternative unusual and improper channel and acknowledging that. So that is “What about the full factual approach?”. It is about acknowledging that but working with them.The select committee has worked on moderations as well. You have not heard that from the Opposition. Yes we are using group warrants—it is quite appropriate—but a judge can choose to move to individual warrants if it is felt that it is appropriate. So I return to where I started. This is a moderate bill. I think this party this Government is proud of its record across a number of areas including the area of immigration and again I acknowledge the Minister as his first Government bill is set to pass.
Roy Eric: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11166. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Is this a split call?Dr Megan Woods: Yes it is.Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Five minutes.
Logie Jan: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLogie Jan: Immigration Amendment Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11158. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAN LOGIE (Green):The Green Party strongly opposes this Immigration Amendment Bill. I would like to thank my Labour colleague Andrew Little for such a clear exposition of how this bill will work in practice once passed. I want to start my speech against this appalling unnecessary and divisive piece of legislation by again reminding this House about why we have signed up to the refugee convention. In 1944—and the Minister of Immigration mentioned this today at the World Refugee Day celebrations—prior to signing the convention New Zealand took in over 700 refugees and about 100 supporters from Poland all in 1 year at one time. That was at a time when our economy was just a fraction of what it is now and our population was well under half what it is now. True we did not do it that well. We put those people in a camp. That was because back then decades ago we had not had the international experience that we now have the benefit of to realise the harm that that kind of approach takes. But as a consequence of taking in those refugees at that time as a society we have seen the benefits of their contribution to our society.
Vote: Intelligence and Security Committee — MembershipText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Intelligence and Security Committee — Membership[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11151. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat under section 11 of the Intelligence and Security Committee Act 1996 this House endorse Hon Tony Ryall as a member of the Intelligence and Security Committee nominated by the Prime Minister under section 7(1)(c) of the Act.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes1Mana 1.Abstentions52New Zealand Labour 30; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Independent: Horan.Motion agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Intelligence and Security Committee — MembershipText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Intelligence and Security Committee — Membership[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11151. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Sorry to interrupt the honourable member. His time has expired. Members this debate has concluded. The question is that the amendment in the name of Brendan Horan be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye to the contrary No. The Noes have it.Amendment not agreed to.
Brownlee Gerry: Intelligence and Security Committee — MembershipText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Intelligence and Security Committee — Membership[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11134. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House):I moveThat under section 11 of the Intelligence and Security Committee Act 1996 this House endorse Hon Tony Ryall as a member of the Intelligence and Security Committee nominated by the Prime Minister under section 7(1)(c) of the Act.This vacancy has arisen due to the resignation from the Intelligence and Security Committee of the Hon Peter Dunne.The Hon Tony Ryall is a respected and long-serving member of Parliament. He was first elected to this Parliament in 1990 for the electorate of East Cape and has represented it since—although the electorate has changed its name and border a number of times including a brief change to Eastern Bay of Plenty for the 1996 election until its current name of Bay of Plenty.The Hon Tony Ryall served as Minister of Justice Minister for State Owned Enterprises Minister of Local Government and Minister of Youth Affairs in the Shipley Government and has more recently been Minister of Health Minister for State Owned Enterprises and Minister of State Services and he is a member of a very exclusive club of former Acting Prime Ministers.Tony Ryall is a good choice to be on the Intelligence and Security Committee. He has good judgment elected longevity and ministerial experience. I support this motion. And might I say how good Clayton Cosgrove looks in the Leader of the Opposition’s seat. This may be one of the few occasions he ever gets to occupy it. Thank you.
Vote: Appropriation (2012/13 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Appropriation (2012/13 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11134. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Appropriation (2012/13 Supplementary Estimates) Bill be now read a first time.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes53New Zealand Labour 30; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a first time.
Joyce Steven: Appropriation (2012/13 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeJoyce Steven: Appropriation (2012/13 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11133. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Associate Minister of Finance)on behalf of theMinister of Finance: I moveThat the Appropriation (2012/13 Supplementary Estimates) Bill be now read a first time.
Brownlee Gerry: Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 3 to MinisterText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 3 to Minister[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11133. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House):I seek the leave of the House to correct an answer that I gave on behalf of the Prime Minister to the last supplementary question from Grant Robertson.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought to correct that answer. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is none.Hon GERRY BROWNLEE: Highlighting the difficulty I guess of a Minister answering on behalf of another Minister I have made inquiries so I can better answer that question on behalf of the Prime Minister. The answer I gave on behalf of the Prime Minister was no. What I should have said is yes there were several conversations about the matter meaning the entire inquiry.
Dean Jacqui: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDean Jacqui: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11133. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]12.JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki)to theMinister of Transport: What support is the Government giving to improve roading infrastructure in regional and rural New Zealand?Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Minister of Transport):There are numerous projects around the country that will lend support to regional roading infrastructure. I want to highlight one particularly for the member though and to state that work has begun on the first of two new Waitaki bridges at Kurow. The new two-lane bridges are being built across the river on State Highway 82 between Kurow and Hakataramea by the New Zealand Transport Agency to replace the two ageing 132-year-old single-lane wooden bridges which have reached the end of their lives. I would like to thank the local member Jacqui Dean for her great work in advocating for her electorate and helping progress the replacement of these bridges.Jacqui Dean: What other projects that will improve roading infrastructure is the Government progressing?Hon GERRY BROWNLEE: As I said there are a lot of these projects around the country but I would like to talk about the 125-year-old Beaumont Bridge which is being replaced at a cost of $15 million and the single-lane Kawarau Falls bridge being replaced at a cost of around $20 million. Both of these upgrades are modern and in a part of the country that the member will also be very familiar with.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11132. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! There was a bit of disruption upstairs there. Can I ask the member to please repeat that question.
O'Connor Damien: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeO'Connor Damien: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 13 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:11132. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAMIEN O’CONNOR (Labour—West Coast - Tasman):My question is to the Minister for Primary Industries. Does the Minister have confidence in his biosecurity system? [Interruption ]