Korako NukNUK KORAKO (National): Kia ora Madam Chair Tolley finally; this is almost the best for last. Ha ha! Kia ora Madam Chair thank you for the opportunity to be able to speak in the committee stage. It's always interesting listening to this which I have all day; I've been in and out of here. But I want to cover off—in this House the other day the member Kiritapu Allan gave an impassioned speech actually about her kaumātua on the East Coast thanking her for this bill that it would keep her home warm in the winter. She even actually went so far—and that was the enthusiasm of this wahine—to say that it was a $1000 a week tax cut as opposed to per annum; but that's OK.I'm standing to support all of the various amendments concerning the manner in which this winter energy payment is applied. I have a question for the Minister because I've also had a telephone call actually from Wharekauri but I'll come to that very shortly.Can the Minister explain why it's so difficult to target the funding so it goes exactly where his colleague Kiritapu Allan says it's most needed and that is to the heating of the homes that actually really need it. The other part of it is that—and this is about kaumātua. I mean it's great to see the Māoris on the other side—the Māori caucus; kia ora to you—who actually have been not here a lot and I haven't heard any of them get up except Kiri Allantapu.Hon Peeni Henare: Kiri Allantapu?NUK KORAKO: Sorry—Kiritapu. Sorry. But anyway at the end of the day when looking at this what we should be looking at is that it's actually about equity on where this money actually goes. And so my question then is that—isn't it that a really important part of this is specifically about the kaumātua about their energy bills? I'm just specifically coming down to that because you've got the largest Māori caucus on the other side of the House and yet we haven't actually heard a lot from them. All we've actually heard is a media statement that was a cut and paste from the Hon Kelvin Davis and then that's about it. But what we need here—Hon Ruth Dyson: Which bit of the bill is this? Which bit of the bill is this in?NUK KORAKO: —and that's why I'm asking OK? I'd really like to know then why can't we have that kind of equity? Because I've had the call—because when we look at this sort of regional situation what about the people who actually live on Wharekauri or the Chatham Islands? It's three times to four times as much for their electricity bills compared to actually being here on the mainland. So that was one of the calls.The other call was actually around Rakiura which is down in Stewart Island. So these are Māori that are living in those ancestral communities and this is where I would've expected the Labour Māori caucus along with their coalition partners to actually be asking those questions as to why haven't we got sort of equity right across the board when we take into account those whānau that want to live in ancestral communities in everywhere else except right in the Te Wai Pounamu Te Ika-a-Māui and all of that. So that is my question to the Minister—and whether it was taken into account; I'm not sure.But I think the other part of it though is that—just to finish off on the fact that there were all of these amendments. Even though we're talking actually about all New Zealanders I would've thought that the Māori caucus on that side of the House within the Government would've been championing a lot of these sorts of different things that actually do really affect our people. I mean you've got the Minister of Defence over there. What about our mōrehu? What about those that are actually going to lose their entitlements and benefits when it actually comes—well I mean that's what we had in our bill. But they're going to lose that actually. So there are the other parts with kaumātua right across the board.So on that note my question—maybe the Minister can answer it—is: where is the equity? Was there any thought that has actually gone into Māori that live in ancestral communities?