Kaye NikkiHon NIKKI KAYE (National—Auckland Central): I'm very pleased to be able to speak in this committee stage of the Racing Reform Bill. I just want to say a couple of things at the outset. Firstly I want to acknowledge our racing spokesperson Ian McKelvie acknowledge the former Minister the Hon David Bennett and also acknowledge the Minister in the chair the Rt Hon Winston Peters to absolutely reaffirm our commitment to supporting the bill and also to the real issues around the viability of the racing industry. But as I have said very publicly this is about balance. The reason that National has had a minority view that has raised issues of representation and of distribution is because we not only support the $1.6 billion racing industry and the 18000 jobs that go with that but we also support the national sporting organisations and their absolute right to raise legitimate issues around representation and distribution. So I have a raft of questions for the Minister. I do want to acknowledge that I had the opportunity today to have the sports Minister in front of the select committee. The first question that I have for the Minister relates to the totalisator levy. We obviously have a situation in this bill where it's progressively being repealed—CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): That's Part 2.Hon NIKKI KAYE: Oh OK—that's fine. You know I do want to raise the issue of the representation with the Minister. There have been a range of questions about who will actually end up on the Racing Industry Transition Agency. There is some suggestion that members may have already been shoulder-tapped. I'd ask him to give us the absolute confidence that we're going to have the sport representation that we need. I think the other key question that obviously people are raising is around this distribution issue. Again today the sports Minister very clearly said that he would be advocating for a greater distribution for sport. That's at odds with the racing Minister and the Minister in the chair who's very clearly said no to media around that issue; people are wrong if they think that somehow sport should get a greater distribution. I totally understand that the purpose of this bill is to actually grow the pie for racing and sport. I accept that; that's why National is supporting this bill.This issue of the proportion of betting that actually occurs in terms of sporting organisations is real. It was raised through the select committee process. For instance we heard from a remote gambling association that they expect potentially 95 percent of betting that Kiwis make on overseas bets could be sport-related. So I really want to hear from the Minister because he is going to have huge powers under this bill around that formula because we're taking it out of the law—and I acknowledge that was a proposal that National put up under the former Minister—and what his thoughts are around that distribution formula because we've got New Zealand Cricket and we've got comments from New Zealand Rugby all arguing for that greater share of the pie. So we'd really love to hear some comments from the Minister for Racing about what he is thinking specifically around sports and the distribution issues.I also want to raise a few other issues that were raised through the select committee process. Obviously this issue of the time. We had a five-day submission period over a long weekend and people quite clearly said they were really really concerned about the process. This issue that was raised in the select committee around penalties and the ability of the Department of Internal Affairs to be enforcer and have multiple roles and that issue in terms of penalties—them being both the adjudicator and the enforcer—and you know whether it's really a real issue that the members of this House should be considering. Is it appropriate? We heard from the New Zealand Law Society and we heard from the Ministry of Justice around these issues so we'd love to hear the Minister's comments on that regarding that issue.The other issue that was raised through select committee is around harm minimisation and I can see that Julie Anne Genter is in the House. I know that there are plans through the second piece of legislation to discuss these issues but you know they're real issues that were raised by the Salvation Army. I think as well Transparency International raised this issue of harm minimisation and whether we should have been dealing with some of that in this legislation.So there are multiple questions that I have for the Minister for Racing. Again I acknowledge National absolutely supports this bill. We support the racing industry. We support the real viability issues. I acknowledge the Minister for all of the work that he's done to shield this through but these issues of balance in terms of our sporting sector I would love the Minister to comment on—and some of those process issues particularly this issue raised by the New Zealand Law Society and the Ministry of Justice.