SpeechALASTAIR SCOTT (National—Wairarapa): I had a couple of minutes explaining some of the problems with the—Kris Faafoi: Start again—start again.ALASTAIR SCOTT: I am not going to start again. I would not want to put you through it all. I will do the last 5 or 6 minutes and we were talking about the inconsistency in the Crimes Act. Providing an explosive to someone for the purpose of an offence is objectively worse than carrying an offensive weapon—that is what the bill is all about—so the maximum sentence should be higher. A maximum 5-year imprisonment is needed to adequately reflect the seriousness of the offence and to deter others without being unnecessarily harsh. The offence does not have a minimum penalty and so when sentencing of this offence arises in court a judge can impose a fair and reasonable penalty without being restricted to a maximum of 2 years' imprisonment.The Government is committed to reducing crime and making our communities safer. We are boosting police staff by 1125 including 880 extra front-line officers as part of our half-billion-dollar Safer Communities package. This means increased staff numbers across all 12 police districts—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): Order! [Interruption] Order! The member will resume his seat. There has been some criticism especially in submissions to the Standing Orders Committee in relation to what might be described as sort of slack chairing with regard to relevance for debate. I am going to be quite strict and ask the member to speak to the bill rather than—[Interruption]—having a more general debate. When I sit down I am going to ask the member who interjected when I was on my feet to withdraw and apologise.Kris Faafoi: I withdraw and apologise.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): Thank you.ALASTAIR SCOTT: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. My understanding was that a second reading speech should be very specific to the bill but a first reading speech could be broader and more wide ranging than a second reading speech.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): It can be wide ranging around the bill but it cannot be a rehearsal of Budget debates or debates that have been held earlier in the year.ALASTAIR SCOTT: Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker.Stuart Nash: That is one way to wind down the clock. Just do not say anything.ALASTAIR SCOTT: I want to be specific so just give me a couple of seconds.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): Should I make it clear to the member that there is not an obligation to use the full time if the member is not prepared?ALASTAIR SCOTT: No I accept that. I accept that Mr Assistant Speaker. I will summarise. This is about the inconsistent sentencing guidelines in the Crimes Act. Under section 202A individuals simply carrying or possessing dangerous weapons unlawfully are potentially liable for a longer imprisonment term than an individual who knowingly provides explosives intended to endanger people or property. That is the nub of it and that does not make sense to me. A person carrying an offensive weapon even when they do not cause any harm can face a term of imprisonment of up to 3 years and yet a person who provides an explosive such as a bomb knowing it will be used to commit a crime can be imprisoned for only up to 2 years. That is the nub of it and I will resume my seat.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): I call Stuart Nash. Sorry we are having some problem with the clocks here. We will get there.