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Young Jonathan: Electronic Monitoring of Offenders Legislation Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeYoung Jonathan: Electronic Monitoring of Offenders Legislation Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4243. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth):As a member of the Law and Order Committee I am pleased to stand and speak on the Electronic Monitoring of Offenders Legislation Bill in its first reading. It is good to hear that other parties across this House are going to support this bill to select committee. I believe that is good judgment. I failed to hear passion in the voice of the previous speaker Jacinda Ardern as she agreed to that point but I am sure that as we go through the select committee process we are going to hear lots of very interesting submissions.Just last week a number of us from the Law and Order Committee were able to visit one of Her Majesty’s prisons.Chris Bishop: Where was that?JONATHAN YOUNG: We went to Rimutaka Prison here in the Wellington region. Many people were surprised that they let me out but they were certainly very keen to see me go. A lot of people out there just think that prisons are where criminals go and are locked away but you would be surprised at just how passionate the people who work in those corrections facilities are to rehabilitate the people who find their way into those places. It is quite surprising to feel and hear the passion and the genuine concern they have to see people rehabilitated.Debate interrupted.
Tisch Lindsay: Electronic Monitoring of Offenders Legislation Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Electronic Monitoring of Offenders Legislation Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4239. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I call Ian McKelvie.
Tisch Lindsay: Electronic Monitoring of Offenders Legislation Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Electronic Monitoring of Offenders Legislation Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4238. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I call Poto Williams—5 minutes.
Tisch Lindsay: Electronic Monitoring of Offenders Legislation Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Electronic Monitoring of Offenders Legislation Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4236. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): The next call is a split call. Catherine Delahunty—5 minutes.
Lotu-Iiga Sam: Accident Compensation (Financial Responsibility and Transparency) Amendment Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLotu-Iiga Sam: Accident Compensation (Financial Responsibility and Transparency) Amendment Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4221. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA (Minister of Corrections) on behalf of the Minister for ACC:I move That the Accident Compensation (Financial Responsibility and Transparency) Amendment Bill be reported to the House by 3 November 2015.Motion agreed to.
Mallard Trevor: Budget DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Budget Debate[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4198. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): The member will resume his seat. I just want to remind members of the very good ruling last week from my colleague Assistant Speaker Tisch as to what happens to members who interject during party votes.
Mallard Trevor: Budget DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Budget Debate[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4197. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): The time for this debate has expired. The question is that the amendment in the name of the Leader of the Opposition be agreed to.
Mallard Trevor: Budget DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Budget Debate[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4189. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): Alfred Ngaro—a 5-minute call.
Dean Jacqui: Budget DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDean Jacqui: Budget Debate[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4172. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki):When I was making my first contribution to the Budget speech on Thursday—it is obviously going down a treat this afternoon as everybody is leaving but never mind—I was talking about the contribution of the Minister the Hon Amy Adams to bringing in a world-class broadband network which so far as a Government we have invested $1.5 billion into and enabling economic development in the regions. I focused my contribution at that time on regional development and noted that in this Budget an extra $360 million has been set aside to deliver on the Government’s promise of high-speed broadband and rural broadband.I was particularly noticing the impact not only on the education sector and on hospitals but also on the economies of the regions. In particular for the lower half of the South Island it is generally around agriculture it is around IT but it is also around education. I want to turn to that because I was very interested and very proud to hear the Minister of Education Hekia Parata explaining to the House that this Government has invested more in education year on year than any Government previously. I was also very pleased and proud to hear the Minister talking about the fact that to date this year this Government has invested $10.8 billion in education. That includes—Melissa Lee: How much?JACQUI DEAN: $10.8 billion dollars in education. That is investing in our future. That is investing in our young people right from early childhood education. The Budget also made some announcements around early childhood education for our youngest New Zealanders and where is the benefit going to lie? Well again because I am so focused on the regions and the health of the regions I can say that we are of course going to see the benefit of that in the lower part of the South Island. We are going to see our young citizens going through an excellent school system enhanced absolutely by rural broadband.I can even go as far as talking about my own home town which is 100 percent wired up for broadband as are a number of towns around New Zealand.Hon Maurice Williamson: You’d better name this town.JACQUI DEAN: I have named this town and I will happily do so here. It is called Ōāmaru. It is the coolest little town and the sharpest little town and broadband will be a great benefit to the schools the hospital and the businesses all around the region. I would also talk about Wānaka which is a town that came fifth in the Gigatown competition and which is a hub for business start-ups.Small businesses are now being attracted out of the cities and business people are being attracted out of Dunedin. I know of people coming down from Auckland. There is a trend to go southward from Auckland into places like Wānaka. Why? Because they are innovative and they have wonderful infrastructure that includes broadband but most particularly I am so proud of this Government’s investment in education. Thank you.
Carter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Social Bonds—Mental Health Service PilotText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Social Bonds—Mental Health Service Pilot[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4172. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from the Hon Annette King seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 the announcement of the special bonds pilots. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. The social bond was announced as part of the 2015-16 Budget. The House is this week debating the Budget and the departmental estimates are currently before the select committees for examination. The Budget debate will provide the opportunity to discuss the social bond today and the estimates examination will provide the opportunity to consider it in detail and to debate it further when select committee reports on the estimates are considered in the Committee of the whole House. On this basis the matter raised does not meet the test for me to set aside the business of the House today. The application is therefore declined.
Young Jonathan: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeYoung Jonathan: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4170. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]10.JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth)to the Minister of Transport: How is the Government supporting the delivery of its Transport priorities?Hon SIMON BRIDGES (Minister of Transport):As part of Budget 2015 this Government is investing some $250 million in strengthening the transport system to increase safety and reliability to improve resilience and to ensure that older New Zealanders have continued access to public transport. Specifically we are spending $209 million investing in KiwiRail with a further $190 million to be funded in Budget 2016 to ensure the continued delivery of services and to maintain the national network. There is $10 million being invested in the SuperGold card scheme to meet strong and growing demand and $15.9 million is being invested in the MetService to replace its meteorological forecasting system to establish a new disaster recovery backup facility and to provide free weather forecasting services for the recreational aviation sector.Jonathan Young: How is the Government delivering on its priorities of supporting the regions?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: Through the Accelerated Regional Roading Package the Government is investing $212 million in accelerating 14 regionally significant State highway projects. This investment underscores the Government’s priority of supporting the regions which are a key driver of our economy and ensuring that we have a modern transport infrastructure.
Seymour David: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSeymour David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4167. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]7.DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT)to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by his statement in the House last week that because New Zealand Superannuation costs are currently less than 5 percent of GDP and are forecast to rise to 8 percent of GDP by 2060 this represents a responsible path for overall Government spending?Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister):I stand by my statement which was “We have set out a responsible path for overall Government spending so that current settings for New Zealand superannuation are both affordable and fully factored into our long-term forecast.” That is true as the Budget shows. Other parties in this House from time to time want to cut back on superannuation entitlements while other people want to spend the money on something else. That is a fiscal choice they should put clearly to the electorate including Andrew Little and his idea of means testing.David Seymour: Does it not strike the Prime Minister as odd that he is commending OECD fiscal arrangements given that countries like France Greece Italy Portugal and Spain are all facing a brutal fiscal adjustment that means pushing up the age of eligibility for pensions increasing pension contribution rates and shifting indexation from a wage to an inflation basis? Is that the future we are offering younger New Zealanders?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: No I think it is about correctly reflecting actually on the current position which is that New Zealand superannuation currently costs 4.8 percent of GDP and is expected to rise to 8 percent of GDP by 2050. At the moment the OECD average today is 9.5 percent and is expected to rise to 11.7 percent. So yes although the costs of New Zealand superannuation will rise I think it is affordable and within our projected forecast.David Seymour: Does the Prime Minister plan to still be in office in the 2020s when the cost of superannuation to New Zealand taxpayers rises by $1.5 billion every year?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I certainly hope so but of course there will be many elections to run on and I look forward to working with the member for as long as he is the member for Epsom which is where I live.
Logie Jan: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLogie Jan: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4165. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]5.JAN LOGIE (Green)to the Minister of Health: Can he guarantee no NGO that embarks on a social bond contract in order to assist people with the most complex mental health needs into work will go under as a result of not meeting agreed targets; if not why not?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Health):One of the benefits of social bonds is that they protect service providers by shifting financial risk away from the providers and on to investors who provide the funding and who are better placed to absorb risk. This allows the Government to pay for results and to access the expertise and local knowledge of NGOs and service providers without exposing them to financial risk that they cannot necessarily bear. Although the Government will not provide guarantees to service providers it is taking steps through social bonds and other programmes to pay for better results for New Zealanders but at the same time help service providers to better manage risk.Jan Logie: So I assume that was a no.Mr SPEAKER: Order! That question was answered very fully by the Minister. The member now accepts the answer and just proceeds to ask her supplementary question.Jan Logie: Will he guarantee that no one with high mental health needs will be bullied into an unsuitable job in order to ensure an investor gets a return on their investment?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: Yes.Jan Logie: How will the Minister guarantee that?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: Through the contracting process.Mr SPEAKER: Sorry?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: Through the contracts that we sign.Jan Logie: Does he agree with the Department of Internal Affairs which advised against social bonds because investors by nature are looking to maximise profits while minimising risks and that a low-risk social investment completely defeats the purpose?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: No That is not what the Department of Internal Affairs said. I have a report here in front of me—the advice to me from the Department of Internal Affairs—which says that social bonds are “… an exciting financial instrument with the potential to revitalise social policy delivery and inject private sector funding and innovation into the sector.” I thought the Greens would actually be in favour of social entrepreneurship but if it is not their idea then apparently it is a bad idea.Metiria Turei: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Given the Minister has just quoted from an official document I suggest that he then table it for the House as—Mr SPEAKER: Order! This is easily resolved. If the Minister is quoting from an official document—[Interruption] He is? Then would it be tabled please. It will be tabled.Document laid on the Table of the House.
Reti Shane: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeReti Shane: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4164. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]4.Dr SHANE RETI (National—Whangarei)to the Minister of Health: How will social bonds help deliver better health outcomes?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Health):Budget 2015 set aside nearly $29 million for social bond pilots that will see the Government paying upon delivery of solutions to tough social challenges. Social bonds will see NGO providers partnering with sources of private capital to deliver on contracted outcomes in health and other social sectors.Dr Shane Reti: How will the first social bond work?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: The first social bond will build on a successful pilot where an NGO has placed employment experts into a general medical practice to assist mental health patients into work where appropriate. While the contract details are being finalised an NGO provider in partnership with a private source of finance will agree to deliver an increase in outcomes for this patient group. Payment occurs when results are delivered.Darroch Ball: Is the use of social bonds not simply the Minister’s admission that the Government’s form of investment approach and welfare reform have failed outright and does he think that profit not people is the right motivation to solve our complex social issues?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: No absolutely not. This is in addition to everything we have already done. We have tried some very innovative solutions during our time in Government to achieve some of those tough better public service targets and that is why the lifetime liability for beneficiaries has decreased by $7.5 billion under this Government. That is why there are 42000 fewer kids in New Zealand living in beneficiary homes than 3 years ago and we will continue to focus on what works.Hon Annette King: In light of his answer to Dr Shane Reti is he aware that an employment officer was placed within a primary health organisation when we were in Government but his Government cancelled such a project?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: No but what I am aware of is that when that person was the Minister of Health she was not successful in getting—Mr SPEAKER: Order! The Minister will resume his seat. He answered the question in the very first part of his answer.
Urgent Debates Declined — Social Bonds—Mental Health Service PilotText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUrgent Debates Declined — Social Bonds—Mental Health Service Pilot[Sitting date: 02 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4172. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Urgent Debates DeclinedSocial Bonds—Mental Health Service PilotMr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from the Hon Annette King seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 the announcement of the special bonds pilots. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. The social bond was announced as part of the 2015-16 Budget. The House is this week debating the Budget and the departmental estimates are currently before the select committees for examination. The Budget debate will provide the opportunity to discuss the social bond today and the estimates examination will provide the opportunity to consider it in detail and to debate it further when select committee reports on the estimates are considered in the Committee of the whole House. On this basis the matter raised does not meet the test for me to set aside the business of the House today. The application is therefore declined.
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Vote: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4920. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 89 in the name of the Hon Bill English to Part 2 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4911. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat Part 1 as amended stand part.Ayes 75New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 46New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14.Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4889. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat clause 2 be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Clause 2 agreed to.Bill to be reported without amendment presently.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4889. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat clause 1 be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Clause 1 agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4881. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat Part 2 be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Part 2 agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4881. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Noes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4881. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Noes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 87 in the name of Eugenie Sage to add new clause 19 be agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4881. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Noes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 87 in the name of Eugenie Sage to clause 16 be agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4881. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Noes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendments not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 87 in the name of Eugenie Sage to clause 14 be agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4880. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Noes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 87 in the name of Eugenie Sage to clauses 12 13 and 18 be agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4880. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Noes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendments not agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Eugenie Sage to Part 2 be agreed to:insert the following new clause:11AGreenhouse gas reportThe Environmental Protection Authority must produce and publish a report no later than 6 months after the commencement of this Act and annually thereafter listing the 100 largest emitters of greenhouse gas in New Zealand.The Environmental Protection Authority must present the report required by subsection (1) to the House of Representatives as soon as practicable after it is published.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4880. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Noes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendments not agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 87 in the name of Eugenie Sage to clause 10 be agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4879. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 87 in the name of Eugenie Sage to clause 7 be agreed to.
Vote: Harmful Digital Communications Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Harmful Digital Communications Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4870. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the questionThat the Harmful Digital Communications Bill be now read a third time.Ayes 116New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 10 (Clendon Delahunty Graham Hague Logie Mathers Roche Sage Shaw Turei); New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; United Future 1.Noes 5Green Party 4 (Browning Genter Hughes Norman); ACT New Zealand 1.Bill read a third time.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4920. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Just while the Clerk is adding these up there can be no discussion no noise whatsoever when votes are being taken. I will ask you to respect that.
Hayes Joanne: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes Joanne: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4920. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOANNE HAYES (Third Whip—National):I move That the question be now put.A party vote was called for on the question that the question be now put.
Scott Alastair: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeScott Alastair: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4915. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]ALASTAIR SCOTT (National—Wairarapa):Part 2 of this bill clarifies a few issues around the tax status of the fund investment vehicles but I would also like to comment on the comments made by the previous speaker David Clark regarding a guy—well he is talking about a guy I know indirectly. His name is Harry—“Harry Hindsight”. He is the most famous trader on the planet. He is a guy who was around when I was trading on the markets and we always thought he was such a great guy because he just got it right every time.Unfortunately “Harry Hindsight” does not exist and I ask the member: “How would you have reacted? In hindsight would you have sold the Shanghai Stock Exchange Index in the last 10 days?”. Well yes you would have because it has dropped 22 percent in the last couple of weeks. In hindsight I would not have bought that Shanghai Stock Exchange Index and this is the issue—the rose-tinted spectacles that the Opposition members see through.Borrowing and investing is what is known as leveraging your position and that increases the risk for the investor to something that could wipe you out—completely wipe you out. So imagine if you have got a 20 percent deposit on something and you buy it. You are up you have leveraged 80 percent and you have a movement that we saw in the last week on the Shanghai Stock Exchange and you are out of business. That is why—The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Come back.ALASTAIR SCOTT: Thank you Mr Chair. That is why you do not borrow for investing in something that is a risky asset and that is why we have not borrowed to continue the Cullen fund through times when the funds were simply not available.
Parker David: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeParker David: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4911. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour):I just want to respond to the points that Mr Bayly made and the point that the prior speaker—I am sorry I have just got memory loss—Andrew Bayly: Mr Scott.Hon DAVID PARKER: —Mr Scott made in respect of controlling interests. I agree that the effect of clause 6 of the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill which adds to section 59 the new subclause (5) says that at the first level if you have got a fund investment vehicle that is wholly owned by the guardians then that in itself is allowed despite the fact that it is a controlling interest in the fund investment vehicle. But then it says—you look through that—it does not allow the guardians to have a controlling interest in respect of the underlying investment that is made by the fund investment vehicle. I know that; I understand that. But the point that we are making on this side is that through these vehicles you are getting closer to the point where you are going to turn the fund manager from a passive investor into an active investor. It might not have a controlling interest but it is getting closer in these new vehicles that are being allowed to actually moving from being a passive investor to an active investor.Across both sides of the House that was why the amendment was proposed by the Finance and Expenditure Committee—to reinforce that although we are going to allow these fund investment vehicles we were not going to encourage the guardians to move from a passive investment role to an active investment role. So we said therefore in respect of the power being exercised by the guardians ministerial approval would be given or withheld in respect of some of those classes of investment. That was the reason and so we are still waiting to have a contribution from the Minister in the chair the Minister of Education as to whether the Minister thinks that the select committee was wrong to say that this was actually moving along the continuum allowing more active investment than has been the case to date. That is a different issue from controlling interests. We still have not heard from members from the other side as to why it was wrong to actually have that greater level of control exercised in respect of investments that are not passive.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 89 in the name of the Hon Bill English to Part 1 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4908. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): No. I have often heard members talking about drive time when listeners are driving home in traffic in places like Auckland. I have never heard that that is out of order. It is certainly not a ruling that I have made in the past and I am not going to uphold it.
Foster-Bell Paul: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFoster-Bell Paul: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4908. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL FOSTER-BELL (National):I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I did not want to interrupt the member Clayton Mitchell while he was speaking. The member referred to viewers at home. I am still a relatively new member but I believe that that is out of order and I just wanted to bring that to your attention.
Borrows Chester: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4899. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): I call the much-awaited Chris Bishop.
Foster-Bell Paul: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFoster-Bell Paul: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4889. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL FOSTER-BELL (National):I move That the question be now put.Motion agreed to.
Faafoi Kris: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFaafoi Kris: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4888. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]KRIS FAAFOI (Labour—Mana):It is always a pleasure to go after Paul Foster-Bell. I am sure the technicians are very thankful to him for saving them some time in doing their annual check on the speaker system here in Parliament.There have been a number of alternative titles put up for this bill and I would like to again go for a simple alternative. We should change the name of this bill to the “Environmental Responsibility Reporting Bill.” I am a big fan of acronyms for bills and that would change this bill to the “ERR Bill”—or err as in mistake—because that is exactly what this piece of legislation is.This Government has erred in this piece of legislation. It has taken away a large degree of independence in the reporting that needs to go on here in New Zealand. We need to make sure that the current state of affairs with the monitoring of our environment is independent and that we are looking at the things that need to get looked at. This Government has erred in that because in this piece of legislation it is giving some of that responsibility to the Minister and that leaves that process open to political interference whereby things that should be looked at might not get looked at. In my opinion and in the opinion of this party and the Opposition the Government has erred with the “ERR Bill” as I would like to see it called. There needs to be independence when we are dealing with the reporting and the monitoring of the environment.Another instance where this piece of legislation has erred is in the fact that the Government did not take up the opportunity to support Supplementary Order Paper 92 which was in the name of my colleague Su’a William Sio. That would have inserted a clause to include consideration for New Zealand’s economic and environmental activities and how they impact of the Pacific region’s climate ecosystems and its people. That is a huge error.I do not see anything hugely controversial about that because we do not live in isolation at the bottom of the Pacific. What we do here in New Zealand and what the Australians do in Australia affects all those small nations in the Pacific. The likes of Tokelau—which my parents came from—with only 1500 people living on three atolls very much relies on the activities of other nations for its future. The highest point above sea level there is something like 50 to 75 centimetres. So I think we do have a responsibility to those Pacific nations to make sure that we include them in the monitoring of how what we do that affects them. I think especially with regard to some of those that we do have an official relationship with that we should be doing more to make sure that we are monitoring what is happening to us as well as what is happening to them. That is an error or an “ERR” on behalf of this piece of legislation.Sitting suspended from 6 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.
Foster-Bell Paul: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFoster-Bell Paul: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4888. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL FOSTER-BELL (National):Tēnā koe e te Mana Whakawā and thank you very much for the opportunity to speak on clauses 1 and 2 in this debate on this very important piece of legislation the Environmental Reporting Bill. This is a very aptly and appropriately named piece of legislation. In the style of the National Government it is named simply clearly and efficiently and it does what it says on the box. If we were less gracious as some of the members of the Opposition are we could give it a less suitable title. We might call it the “Correcting 9 Long Years of Labour Woeful Mismanagement Bill”. We might call it “A Bill to Fix Up 9 Years of an Impotent Green Party Propping Up a Labour Party that Did Nothing for the Environment in this Country” but luckily we are not a petty and small-minded Government. We are a Government that is focused on the issues that are important to New Zealand unlike the members opposite. The commencement clause clause 2 tells us that this bill comes into effect in 9 months’ time—not 9 long years. For 9 long years New Zealand sat in that very small minority of countries that did not have an effective environmental reporting bill in place but we are bringing this in in only 9 months and I think that is a very very positive thing.Some of the contributions from the members opposite show how little they actually care about the environment. The Hon Ruth Dyson just wants to have a go at me for not being a scientist—and I freely concede I am not a scientist. I have been educated at the very fine institution of the University of Otago in the noble art of archaeology. So although I may not know about nitrous oxide levels or other scientific matters I am well versed in the excavation of old fossils and that is why I understand the members opposite.I will wrap up by saying that this is an appropriately named piece of legislation. It will make a big difference to our environment in New Zealand. It will report on matters to do with the atmosphere the water the ground and environmental ecosystems in this country. It will bring us into line with the rest of the OECD and it is another very good piece of legislation from this excellent Government. I commend it to the House.
Tisch Lindsay: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4885. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Leave is sought to correct the votes. So what would those votes be please?Joanne Hayes: The votes are for Supplementary Order Paper 87 all clauses—two votes in favour—The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Just one moment. Leave is sought to correct the Māori Party vote on all the votes that were taken on Part 2. Is that correct?Joanne Hayes: Correct—it is just the Supplementary Order Papers.The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Well there are a number of Supplementary Order Papers. There is No. 92 and there is No. 87 and there is an amendment to insert clause 11A as well.Joanne Hayes: No just the Supplementary Order Papers 87 and 92.The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Supplementary Order Papers 87 and 92. Right leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection. Therefore the votes on those amendments as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 87 and Supplementary Order Paper 92 will be Ayes 60 Noes 61. The amendments are still lost.
Hayes Joanne: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes Joanne: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4885. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOANNE HAYES (Third Whip—National):I seek leave to correct the votes on behalf of the Māori Party on Supplementary Order Paper 87—all clauses—and Supplementary Order Paper 92—two votes in favour for each.
Korako Nuk: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeKorako Nuk: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4879. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]NUK KORAKO (National):I move That the question be now put.
Tisch Lindsay: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4876. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): If you want to take a call you must ask for the call at the time. Ruth Dyson went for the call.
Mitchell Mark: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMitchell Mark: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4848. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]11.MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney)to the Minister of Customs: What effect is the lower tobacco duty-free limit having on the amount of cigarettes and tobacco being brought into New Zealand at the border?Hon NICKY WAGNER (Minister of Customs):In the first 6 months since the tobacco duty-free limit was lowered on 1 November last year a staggering 2.5 tonnes of tobacco—that is a small truckload—has been abandoned by passengers at the border. But the message is getting through: the amount of tobacco abandoned at airports has dropped considerably from about 100 kilograms a week to 30 to 40 kilograms a week. This drop in the duty-free limit works hand-in-hand with the great work that the Minister of Health Jonathan Coleman and Associate Minister of Health Sam Lotu-Iiga are doing to reduce harm caused by cigarettes.Mark Mitchell: How has the Customs Service ensured that passengers are aware of the lower limit for tobacco?Hon NICKY WAGNER: The change was well signalled in advance and a public awareness campaign informed travellers of the reduction of the duty-free limit leading up to the 1 November change. Passengers can also use the website or the What’s My Duty? app to calculate their tobacco concession. I am very pleased that this change in the duty-free limit is working to reduce the harm from smoking in New Zealand.
Graham Kennedy: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGraham Kennedy: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 30 June 2015. Volume:707;Page:4847. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]10.Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green)to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his statements?Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister):Yes.Dr Kennedy Graham: Given that the Prime Minister has said he wants New Zealand to champion peace between Israel and Palestine will he condemn the Israeli boarding of the Freedom Flotilla yesterday with two New Zealanders on board?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: No but I will encourage both Israel and Palestine to continue to try to find a peaceful resolution to the problems in Gaza.Dr Kennedy Graham: Will the Prime Minister condemn Israel’s actions last year on the basis of the recent UN report on war crimes in Gaza which criticises both sides—but especially Israel—for its excessive use of force in using “huge firepower of 6000 airstrikes and 50000 artillery shells”?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I do not think that it would be terribly conducive to the good relationship that New Zealand enjoys with Israel and Palestine to start throwing stones on either side in particular. I think the report underlines as I am sure the member knows yet again the inescapable reality that reaching a negotiated and lasting peace agreement is vital for the future well-being and prosperity of the people of that region.Dr Kennedy Graham: How can New Zealand even attempt to bring peace to the region as the Minister of Foreign Affairs has indicated it will when the Prime Minister is unwilling to condemn Israel’s war crimes and illegal blockade of Gaza—a clear indication that New Zealand has surrendered its impartiality?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I think it is the opposite. I mean New Zealand enjoys a good relationship with both Israel and Palestine. We are one of a relatively small number of countries that do. We are not going to resort to megaphone diplomacy but we do encourage both sides to find a credible and constructive way through the issues and we do think a two-State solution is the right long-term answer to the issues between Israel and Palestine.