Mooney JosephJOSEPH MOONEY (National—Southland): Thank you very much Madam Chair. I've got two questions arising from the Minister's earlier comments. The first one: was he referring to the right of exclusive possession and quiet enjoyment as quaint concepts and indicating that these are no longer relevant? I mean this will be a huge shock to property lawyers and anyone who owns property or has property rights in the entirety of New Zealand. The right of exclusive possession and the right to quiet enjoyment are crucial parts of our legal framework in terms of land.Hon Scott Simpson: Cornerstone of property law.JOSEPH MOONEY: It's a crucial part of property law. I mean has the Minister taken any advice on that? I'd really seriously like to know that. I think New Zealanders would like to know that because this could undermine the right to property ownership in New Zealand.Hon Scott Simpson: First they came for the high country farmers.JOSEPH MOONEY: First they came for the high country farmers as my colleague the Hon Scott Simpson said.The second one is the Minister talked about high country farmers looking forward to having lots of visits. I do wonder whether he read or listened to or talked to Federated Farmers for example who said in their submission the bill fundamentally changes the nature of the relationship between the Crown as lessor and the leaseholder. The existing contractual relationship based on trust and reciprocity would be replaced by an approach of regulation [policing] and enforcement … [This diminishes] the future constructiveness and openness of relationships … It reduces the certainty of leases and the incentivisation to continue to invest and enhance environmental outcomes given no accompanying or reciprocal ability to address changing pastoral needs as provided for."I also wonder if the Minister listened to or talked to the High Country Accord who also said "We are strongly of the view that the Bill's proposal to change the nature of the contractual relationship between Crown and lessee to a regulatory one underpinned by offence provisions is a considerable strategic mistake and overlooks the predictable changes in lessee and LINZ official behaviour. Like it or not a visit from LINZ will be characterised in the future as a visit from the Police. Under threat of allegations of having committed an offence under the Act LINZ cannot expect that their visits will be welcomed. That is not to say that LINZ will be treated with anything but courtesy"—which is what we always we get from our high country farmers—"but there will be a natural trepidation and fear that comes with any Police investigatory visit. The strength of the current relationships between lessees LINZ and its contractors will be immediately weakened." Those are irreconcilable with those comments Minister that were made earlier. Both Federated Farmers and the High Country Accord are very clearly saying that they will not be welcoming visits and repeated visits in a regulatory framework that is treating them—they are feeling as criminals.My colleague Barbara Kuriger spoke about an incredible ambassador role that the high country farmers provide for people coming to our country. I've got a cut from Matangi Station who's a station up behind the clock tower on Alexandra—Central Otago part of my electorate. I mean they hosted Crankworx one of the world's biggest mountain biking events. And you know and I went to the opening event which was at the shearing shed in Matangi Station and they've got these rams that their bloodlines go back about 150 years sort of indicating how long this has been going you know this relationship to the land and the animals on this property. The mountain bikers from across the world the best mountain bikers in the world were blown away by the experience they received there. How is the Minister going to ensure that these incredible people who look after this land and provide an incredible ambassador role for our country feel that they are not being treated as criminals and that there's that relationship of trust that is based on a 73-year-old contractual arrangement that we currently have in place?"