McKelvie IanIAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei): I've got a fairly diverse range of things to speak on this afternoon from organics to this complicated bill the Child Support Amendment Bill.This in my experience of it is a minefield and it's a minefield that Parliament has to be involved in. It certainly is a very contentious area in our society and has caused I suppose in my time in this business a lot of inquiries to my office and a lot of complaints to my office. It is—as I said—a very difficult area for all of those people involved in it. And when you think that there are 164000 parents liable for this—that's today; there's probably more tomorrow liable to pay child support and that involves 135000 carers of whichever ilk they might be and about 180000 children—it's pretty amazing. It is as I said a very contentious area and it's a minefield that the Government has to be involved in. It's a difficult area to get the legislation right on and it will never please both parties—I'm not talking about the parties in the House—so whatever we do it can't really please those people involved in it. But none the less it is an important area and I think that the changes that are made in this bill will improve it. They will make it a little simpler to implement and I think the fact that the IRD transformation is taking place will certainly enable the calculations and the administration of the child support scheme to become much simpler and be much more successfully managed.We certainly support the implementation of this bill and a lot of the early work on the changes to this bill were undertaken during the National Government's time in office. It's taken a long time to get it to the House and the reasons for that are pretty sound really because as I've said it is a very complicated piece of legislation. The problem with the system is that it's so easy to game the system. And one of the challenges I think for this bill really is to identify and make sure that it's equitable and fair. It's so easy—well I don't suppose that it's easy but frequently this piece of legislation has been gamed in the past and it's very easy to change your income base. It's equally as easy not to work and that is the most frustrating thing for the other partner. When one of the former partners—I guess I'm talking about one of the partners in paying the bill in this case—decides not to work it becomes very complex and very frustrating for that piece of the family that's left wearing the bill.So it is a difficult area to get involved in. I think that the changes that this bill proposes will be sound they will make some progress but none the less it will challenge the system as it goes along. There's a few frustrating things about this whole system and one of them is for employers because effectively you've got to deal with the compulsory deductions—they then go through the system—and often an employer can end up with both parties involved in the same business as well. So you come front and centre of a battle from the sideline and it's not always pleasant. But I do think that the bill on the whole will make changes that are worthwhile and as I said the Business Transformation scheme will make quite a difference to the ability of Inland Revenue to administer the scheme in a more equitable and fair manner.It is a difficult area but I do think that this bill will solve a lot of the problems in that area and I commend it to the House and I'm sure it will work its way through the process probably with some difficulty and with some very interesting submissions along the way. There's no question the submissions will be contentious to some extent as well because when you think of the stuff that comes through our offices on this topic there will be so many and diverse opinions on how this should be implemented and how it should be put into law and when the law is finally established on how it is put in place in a manner that is fair and cannot be gamed easily. So I commend it to the House and I wish it every success as it goes through the select committee stage. It'll be interesting.