McKee NicoleNICOLE McKEE (ACT): Thank you Madam Speaker. What a debate we've had across the House this evening. Look I want to talk a little bit to some of the things that were raised from the Labour side across the House because I genuinely think that they've lost the entire concept of what this bill is actually about. What I've heard over there from the Minister of Police is that Well Nicole your bill is not actually going to make that much disruption so we don't want to support it." And the former Minister of Police had to be told to sit down so many times because he couldn't actually get to the bill itself you know so when I hear some of the rhetoric that is coming from across the House I think I actually need to explain the bill again. Because the Labour member who wanted to talk about Uncle Bob and nephew Billy—let's just run through that scenario again shall we?So Uncle Bob has a firearms licence and it's expired and nephew Billy belongs to a gang and he comes over to Uncle Bob's house which is being raided and we're saying that his gun should not be taken away. So we've got a law that's been broken already. He's in illegal possession of a firearm because his licence has expired and 250000 people who have licences at the moment cannot hold on to their firearms once their licences have expired. That's an illegal thing. There also has to be significant criminal activity occurring in that place. Now I know that Labour do like to give gangs their licences but if there is a significant criminal activity taking place at Uncle Bob's place when nephew Billy turns up then we've got to wonder what on earth Uncle Bob was doing with a firearms licence in the first place. This comes down to fit and proper and maybe we should go back to the royal commission of inquiry's recommendations which said we should have a separate independent authority administrating firearms legislation. But I am going off topic and I will bring it back in.We have members not only of gangs but criminals those that are wanting to become gang members using illegally held firearms illegally. This has occurred already—this evening we are hearing reports of a house in Wairoa being shotgunned and a child's bedroom being shotgunned by gang members retaliating to another firearm gang attack. Now this bill it's not about seizing firearms. It's about having a disincentive for gang members to be in possession of illegally held firearms. It's about adding a new threshold to freeze and seize assets.As I had mentioned in my earlier speech if we're going to have a good economy and a thriving community we need to make sure that we have trust in our Government and also our police. We are losing that at the moment because our homes are being shot up by gang members. And that is soft. That is soft on punishment it is soft on action it is a soft on crime and ACT will not have a bar of it. We want to make sure that our communities can thrive. They need to especially when we're in the middle of a cost of living crisis.So let's take away the bling and the money from the gangs because quite frankly that's all they care about. You can do it by adding an illegally held firearm at the time that there is a raid at a place where there is significant criminal activity taking place. If you add an illegally held firearm it becomes the new threshold to freeze and seize and we know that that will actually have an effect on the gangs. We know that. It's a pity that the Government doesn't and it's a pity that the Government are more interested in handing out $2.75 billion to the gangs instead of using $626 million to help really fight organised crime. It's a pity but we're not going to stop. We're not going to stop we're going to keep on going because our law and order policies are there for New Zealand. It's to make our communities thrive it's to help boost our economy and it's to make sure that those licenced firearm owners who Labour just chuck in the same box as gang members are actually recognised for the fit and proper people that they are. I'm proud to be a part of that and to be one of them and to represent. Thank you."