Jones Shane: Local Government (Auckland Reorganisation) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Jones Shane: Local Government (Auckland Reorganisation) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon SHANE JONES (Labour) 
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 Tena tatou katoa. New Part 5 is a very grave part of the bill because it points to the delinquency and the severity of the complete disregard for the history constitutional and demographic importance of Auckland in the planning for Auckland’s future mega-city status and the complete level of ignorance about the future character of the mega-city of Auckland. That is why we stand with a degree of hope that is clouded by the bad decision-making that has guided the Minister of Local Government Rodney Hide to date which has resulted in his isolating marginalising and completely neglecting a growing percentage of Auckland’s population. 
In 1867 Donald MacLean derived a response to the growing unrest amongst iwi that the Crown was governing the country without any inclusion of a meaningful nature of Maori. That was when statutory Maori representation—after the failure of the runanga experiment early in the 1850s—took root. This part is an extension of that. Why would a modern nation want to provide distinctive Maori representation in its largest city as it seeks to use that city as a catalyst to transform the wider economy? Why would it want to do that? Not only because of heritage but because the reality is that these are the people whose population percentage is growing disproportionately faster. They are the Asian proportion they are the tangata whenua in a broader sense and they are the Pasifika people. So what is being asked for here is a continuation of that proud tradition that exists at the level of national Government. 
Na reira ko taku ki te Whare he aha oti te raruraru me whakaae tatou kia waihangatia wenei turanga Maori hei noho e kitea ai te kanohi Maori i te aroaro o te motu; nga turu Maori e rua ma te marea me tetahi atu turu motuhake mo nga tangata whenua? Nui noa atu te pouri ahakoa te moe tahi a Te Pati Maori ki o ratou hoa kahore he paku aroha e puta ana ki a ratou. 
[An interpretation in English was given to the House.] 
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So mine to the House; what problem is there that we agree to create these Maori positions to enable the face of Maoridom to be seen before the nation—the two positions for Maori for the public and a special one for the people of the land? I am greatly saddened that although the Maori Party has bedded together with their colleagues they display no compassion for them 
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Hon Trevor Mallard 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I apologise. This is a matter in which I have no expertise but I think from my limited knowledge that we might have had a slight miss in the interpretation right at the end. I think the “two” that my colleague outlined was for Maori seats and the “one” was for mana whenua. I think it is important that we get that right. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Thank you. If there was a wrong interpretation I am sure that when the member resumes his speech he will pick up on it. I am leaving that to the discretion of the Hon Shane Jones. Was there a mistake in the interpretation or was it accurate? If there was a mistake you have an opportunity to correct it. 
Hon SHANE JONES 
: I shall take that opportunity. With due respect this correction I am sure is not included as part of my formal speech. I mean absolutely no disrespect to the interpreter a senior scholar of our language but the essential point is that my proposed new part corrects the absence of tangata whenua and mana whenua representation and provides two slots for Maori in general. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: My proposition to you was about the interpretation provided by the interpreter. Did the interpreter report accurately what you had first said? If the interpreter did not report you accurately I am giving you the opportunity to correct the record. We are not getting into a debate on what you said; all I want to know is whether it was interpreted accurately. This is your opportunity to correct the interpretation if it was incorrect—not a debate just a correction if that was the case. 
Hon SHANE JONES 
: I have nothing further to add in relation to that issue. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Thank you. 
Hon SHANE JONES 
: Let us move on to my very clever innovation as to how the people of Pasifika will actually be included. Ara noa atu te aroha ki o tatou huanga mai i Te Moana-nui-a- Kiwa. I tae mai ki konei hei horoi i te paru a etahi ke atu. I hara mai hei tata wahie i hara mai hei waha wai engari i te mutunga he tangata he iwi rangatira. Ko te mea tika kia kite ai to ratou kanohi i roto i tenei kaunihera hou kei puta te korero kahore wa ratou panga horekau o ratou kanohi e tika ana kia kitea ai i roto i nga turanga teitei. 
Ahakoa te kitea o te kanohi Hamoa i tera taha poto noa ake te wa mona ki reira. E kore oti i a ia te kake i nga hoiho e rua i roto i te haora kotahi. Na reira he utu kei te hara mai mona engari haunga ano tena take. 
Te wahanga tuatoru ko nga tangata i tae tata mai mai i te whenua o Ahia. Era tangata i hara mai i te rawakoretanga etahi i arumia e etahi ke atu etahi i ahu mai ki konei kia tatu ai te noho o wa ratou tamariki ki Aotearoa. Na reira e tika ana o ratou kanohi me o nga motu me o te tangata whenua kia kitea ngatahitia. Kaua e waiho ko nga hoa o te Minita anakenake hei whakatutua hei whakarite mo te noho a te iwi mai i nga moutere mai Ahia mai i nga marae o te motu he rite ki te pononga noa iho nei. Kahore he mana. Na reira koia ta matou e tautoko i tenei wahanga. Tenei wahanga rangatira kia kore ai te iwi Maori e ’hakatahangia. 
[An interpretation in English was given to the House.] 
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There is much sympathy for our relations from the Great Sea of Kiwa the Pacific Ocean. They came here to clean up the mess left by others to be woodchoppers bearers of water but in the end they are humans and a dignified people. To have their faces seen on this new council is the proper thing to do. It would allay any talk that they have no interests and they should not be seen in these positions of high standing 
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Although the face of Samoa can be seen on the other side the member’s presence there is limited. He will not last on both horses for a single hour. So there is a cost ahead for him but that is another matter.  
The third part relates to recent arrivals from Asia. Some came from poverty some followed other Asians over here and some immigrated here so that their children could settle here in New Zealand. So it is right that their faces are represented alongside those of Pasifika and the people of the land. Decisions on how people from Asia Pasifika and from the marae of the land should live should not be left solely to the Minister and his cronies. That makes the people subservient and without dignity. So that is what we are supporting here in this part this noble part that ensures Maoridom is not marginalised. 
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