5. Question No. 5—TransportHon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National) to the Minister of TransportQuestion No. 5—Transport5. Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National) to the Minister of Transport: Does he stand by all of his statements and actions?SPEAKER: No I'm sorry I'm not prepared to do that. I'm now going to go back and Chris Bishop will withdraw and apologise for his reflection on the Chair.Chris Bishop: I withdraw and apologise.Hon Michael Woodhouse: Shall I repeat my question Mr Speaker?SPEAKER: No—Michael Wood.Hon MICHAEL WOOD (Minister of Transport): Yes particularly when I said earlier that the Clean Car Discount scheme alone is expected to prevent up to 9.2 million tonnes of carbon dioxide emissions up to 2050. As I've covered in the House today the marginal abatement cost of that is minus $160 to minus $200 per year representing a net economic saving to New Zealand which breaks down at the individual level to savings of approximately $7000 over the lifetime of a clean vehicle that this policy helps Kiwis get into.Hon Michael Woodhouse: What does he consider to be worse use of taxpayer money: the $125 per passenger trip subsidy for a train from Hamilton to Papakura or the $2200 subsidy per EV—[Interruption]SPEAKER: Order! Order! Sorry it's mainly Mr Mitchell now I think. Can the member start his question again?Hon Michael Woodhouse: Gladly. Which does he consider is the worse use of taxpayer money: the $125 per passenger trip subsidy for a train from Hamilton to Papakura or the $2200 subsidy per EV being sent to Japanese exporters?Hon MICHAEL WOOD: I fundamentally reject the calculations in the member's question. As I've just outlined the net economic value of the Clean Car Discount scheme is a positive one to New Zealand not a negative one.Hon Michael Woodhouse: Does he agree with vehicle importers association CEO David Vinsen that the clean car scheme is virtue signalling on a grand scale and at huge costs"?Hon MICHAEL WOOD: No but I do agree with the comments of David Crawford from the Motor Industry Association who says that he's delighted by the announcement and the comments of the New Zealand Automobile Association who say that it's a very well-balanced policy.Hon Michael Woodhouse: When he announced another six-month consultation on light rail just three months ago was it his understanding that half of those six months would be spent doing nothing but designing a website and a map?Hon MICHAEL WOOD: Again I reject the assertions in the member's question. In the space of approximately two months the light rail establishment unit has now got under way with producing an indicative business case which will inform Cabinet decision-making later in the year and as of today has launched a major public consultation with the people of Auckland about how we finally take action to unclog Auckland's roads—something that has been ignored for far too long.Hon Michael Woodhouse: Does his need to seek social licence after four years of delay on light rail extend to the $785 million cycle bridge and if so when can we expect to see a website with a map for that project?Hon MICHAEL WOOD: There will of course on any significant transport project be engagement and consultation with the public but I would urge the member as he engages with these projects to stop the sniping and actually to get on with the job that we all have ahead of us which is to work out how we actually decarbonise New Zealand's transport system—something that that member says in principle that he supports but opposes every single measure that will actually deliver it."