Williams Poto: Third Readings —Text is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilliams Poto: Third Readings —[Sitting date: 02 April 2015. Volume:704;Page:2898. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]POTO WILLIAMS (Labour—Christchurch East):Far be it from me to stand between the hard-working members of this House and their Easter adjournment so with your indulgence I will keep my call on this legislation arising from the Objectionable Publications and Indecency Legislation Bill relatively brief and around four key themes.As far as I can see the major implication of this legislation is around ensuring that child protection remains paramount to this House and in writing legislation. I think this legislation does address some key points. There are some things that many on this side of the House had some reservations about during the passage of the legislation. One of them was around the sentencing presumptions and the issue around sentencing to curb reoffending. There are provisions within the legislation to deal with penalties for the manufacture and the distribution of the objectionable material that potentially are inconsistent with the penalties with which an offender will be liable for undertaking the actual abuse itself. I understand—well I hope—that at some point our legislation will start to deal seriously with the issue of child abuse in terms of the penalties that are imposed upon offenders of that.I believe that some of the work that some of the Justice and Electoral Committee looked at goes some way to addressing that in terms of the repeated child exploitation. The committee agreed that providing judges with a sentencing regime to reflect the seriousness of the reoffending would send a strong message to potential offenders around the exploitation and abuse of children. There was also a concern expressed about sentencing presumptions within legislation with these bills and within others and I think it was right to raise that as a concern although in this case the members of the committee were satisfied that the seriousness of the offending should warrant that.Secondly there was some discussion around the definitions of “objectionable” and “indecent”. There was a bit of discussion around those terms. In recent times the term “objectionable” can mean something quite different from in previous years. We live in a modern world where many things transpire and we are open much more now to images and publications than we were in previous times. So what we might tolerate what might be objectionable and not objectionable is a difficult thing to define. We do trust in our judiciary to actually hold some standards for that and to make calls based on the specifics of the cases before it.Thirdly I want to talk about the submitters. There was a view a concern around images that might be held on an electronic site that were not necessarily provided by a particular internet provider. The provider is just a portal through which people can view the images. The submitters were concerned that providers may then be liable and may have some penalties imposed upon them. But this was well traversed during the passage of the legislation and assurances were given that that would not be the case.Finally I want to refer to clause 13 which does provide a new offence under the Crimes Act. It raised some issues in the committee and with submitters about the potential for entrapment but the committee after some deliberation was satisfied that the law enforcement agencies are fully aware of and experienced with the issues of entrapment and that the judges have the discretion to exclude evidence that they believe was improperly or unfairly obtained. So I feel satisfied and we on this side of the House feel satisfied that those issues have been traversed. We do support the legislation.On that note I would like to wish members of this House a very enjoyable Easter adjournment. There are some significant things that are happening over this time including Anzac Day which is a significant day—100 years since Gallipoli. So on that note I wish you all a very happy Easter and a reflective time over Anzac Day. Thank you.Bills read a third time.