Brown SimeonSIMEON BROWN (National—Pakuranga): Thank you Madam Chair. Thank you for the opportunity to take a second call on the Abortion Legislation Bill. I just want to respond to a couple of those comments which were made by my colleague Jan Logie where she was discussing the issue around the experience in Victoria in relation to the collection of evidence around—whether it's late-term abortions sex selection abortion disability. She referenced different studies and this study said this and this study said that. I think that points to the need to actually be collecting the information and actually having the Director-General of Health having the role to collect adequate proper information so that it can actually be measured appropriately. So I'd just like to respond to that point.I'd now like to discuss Supplementary Order Paper 470 in the name of my colleague the Hon Alfred Ngaro. He is making what I think is something which this committee needs to take very serious consideration about which is putting in place a commissioner to investigate breaches of a health practitioner in relation to the provision of abortion services if the action is or appears to be to the commissioner in breach of the provisions of the Contraception Sterilisation and Abortion Act or the Crimes Act 1961.I'd like to ask the Minister in the chair the Hon Andrew Little to please give the committee some assurances under the legislation as to what actually takes place if there are breaches in this legislation. He might talk about what the responsibilities are under the Health and Disability Commissioner but I'd like to also ask him in terms of what actual teeth there may be in the legislation to ensure that the provisions of this Act which has been put in place are actually being followed. Because I think that's something which this committee does need to take very seriously and something which needs to be explained here so that members of Parliament actually have that information here before we vote on this Supplementary Order Paper.In my view I think having a commissioner who can specifically investigate these breaches who can specifically look at whether the legislation is being followed is something which should be put there in place to monitor it. I think that goes alongside the previous point which is around the collection of information. There actually needs to be in this legislation the bodies with the appropriate ability to make these decisions and to be able to ensure that the legislation is being followed.So on a final point I do just want to say that I think there have been a number of claims made by members on the other side about misinformation and facts being misinterpreted but I do want to point out once more that the Abortion Legislation Committee listened to only 160 of the submitters. The people who ran the process and who voted to shut people out from having their voices heard meant that there was not the ability for New Zealanders—thousands of New Zealanders who wished to be heard—to be able to come and actually put their evidence on the table and for that evidence to be taken into consideration in this process. I think that's something which we as a committee and as a Parliament as we now come to vote shortly on some of these Supplementary Order Papers are missing out on—that experience and the valuable insights that New Zealanders brought and wished to bring to this Parliament through this process. So I thank you for the contribution and I look forward to hearing an answer from the Minister to my questions.