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Points of Order — Speakers and Presiding Officers—Speaker’s Ceremonial Dress 
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Points of Order 
Speakers and Presiding Officers—Speaker’s Ceremonial Dress 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Seeing as this is the start of your term as the Speaker perhaps you could explain to us because we are full of curiosity the background of the regalia you are wearing. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I can Mr Peters. It was presented to me about half an hour ago and it symbolises in Maoridom goodwill honour and peace to the House.
Obituaries — William Robert Fenton Hon Thomas Malcolm McGuigan QSO 
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Obituaries 
William Robert Fenton 
Hon Thomas Malcolm McGuigan QSO 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I regret to inform the House of the death on 10 January 2013 of William Robert Fenton who represented the Hastings electorate from 1975 to 1978. I also regret to inform the House of the death on 5 February 2013 of the Hon Thomas Malcolm McGuigan QSO who represented the Lyttelton electorate from 1969 to 1975. He was Minister of Railways and Minister of Electricity from 1972 to 1974 and Minister of Health from 1974 to 1975. 
I desire on behalf of this House to express our sense of the loss we have sustained and our sympathy with the relatives of the late former members. I now ask members to stand with me and observe a period of silence as a mark of respect for their memories. 
Honourable members stood as a mark of respect.
Authority to Administer Oath 
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Authority to Administer Oath 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have received the following authorisation from His Excellency the Governor-General for me to administer the oath or affirmation prescribed by law to be taken or made by members of the House. The authorisation reads: 
Pursuant to section 11 of the Constitution Act 1986 I Lieutenant General The Right Honourable Sir Jerry Mateparae Governor-General of New Zealand hereby authorise you 
The Right Honourable David Cunningham Carter 
Speaker of the House of Representatives 
to administer to members of Parliament the Oath or Affirmation of Allegiance to Her Majesty The Queen required to be taken or made by every such member before that member shall be permitted to sit or vote in the House of Representatives. 
JOHN KEY Prime Minister 
Authorised 
Jerry Mateparae Governor-General 
31 January 2013
Election of Speaker 
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Election of Speaker 
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Tuesday 12 February 2013 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Election of Speaker 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have to report that accompanied by members I waited upon His Excellency the Governor-General at Government House on Thursday 31 January when I addressed His Excellency as follows: 
May it please Your Excellency: 
In obedience to Your Excellency’s request the House of Representatives in the exercise of its undoubted rights and privileges has proceeded to the election of a Speaker and as the subject of its choice I now present myself to you and submit myself for Your Excellency’s confirmation. 
To which His Excellency replied as follows:  
Mr Speaker it is with much pleasure that I confirm the choice by the House of Representatives of you as its Speaker. 
I congratulate you on your election to this distinguished office marking as it does the appreciation of the House of Representatives of your impartiality and ability. 
I have further to report that I also addressed His Excellency as follows:  
I humbly thank Your Excellency for your confirmation of the choice made by the House of Representatives of me to be its Speaker. 
I desire to repeat my respectful acknowledgment to the House of the high honour it has done in electing me to be its Speaker.
Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — Second Reading 
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Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — Second Reading 
[Sitting date: 12 February 2013. Volume:687;Page:7773. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill be now read a second time. 
Ayes 105 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Bill read a second time.
Roy Eric: Corrections Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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Roy Eric: Corrections Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: This is a split call. 
Iain Lees-Galloway 
: I believe that it is a split call. It is a split call. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: A split call. Thank you—5-minute call.
Sabin Mike: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — Second Reading 
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Sabin Mike: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — Second Reading 
[Sitting date: 12 February 2013. Volume:687;Page:7772. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MIKE SABIN (National—Northland) 
: 
 It is a pleasure to rise and speak in support of this second reading of the Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill and to acknowledge the Minister of Justice for her role as someone who is entirely in tune with the public of New Zealand who is entirely in tune with the justice sector across all spheres and who understands the appropriate balance that is expected of this House in terms of the legislation that we are working on now and into the future. While working as a police officer I can tell you now that the difficulties the lack of understanding and sometimes the hiding behind the Privacy Act as it currently stands have actually cost the lives of some New Zealand citizens. This is a piece of legislation that I believe is well overdue updating and this bill sets about updating that regime and many of the failures that I believe need addressing and will be addressed. 
Importantly the safeguards that are being introduced—and members right across this House have actually touched on those—are about achieving that balance that is required. But it is a balance that is very important to understand in terms of the way in which the scales of justice can tilt because when we do not get that balance right not only does it cost the lives of New Zealand citizens and destroy lives in this country but also it does not serve the interests of law-abiding citizens in this country one little bit. And let us not forget despite what we hear from the watermelon patch this legislation is about law-abiding citizens and protecting law-abiding citizens who go about their lives not asking to be victims of crime but doing it in a measured and balanced manner. I have absolutely no hesitation in supporting this bill to the House. 
Amendments recommended by the Justice and Electoral Committee by majority agreed to.
King Annette: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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King Annette: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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Hon ANNETTE KING (Labour—Rongotai) 
: 
 I rise to speak in the second reading of the Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill. I have to say I am very disappointed in the speech from the new Minister of Local Government. I thought having been given responsibility for a major portfolio that he might have taken some time to have some new thinking in his portfolio area. But what has he done? He comes into this House and trots out the same arguments of the two previous Ministers in regard to Canterbury. So I think he has made a start that he will be ashamed of in the future because he could have put his mark on local government but he has decided not to and he has decided to back an undemocratic bill for the people of Canterbury.
Shanks Katrina: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — Second Reading 
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Shanks Katrina: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — Second Reading 
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KATRINA SHANKS (National) 
: 
 It is my pleasure to take a short call on this Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill tonight. It is going to be short because I will be speaking to the other stages of this bill later on in the next couple of days. 
It was disappointing to hear the Opposition in this debate. It was hard to tell actually whether it was for or against this bill. There was Lianne Dalziel in particular—personal attacks on the Ministers Judith Collins and Paula Bennett. Actually I think this bill is a bit bigger than personal attacks on Ministers. We had Clare Curran talking about picking berries or cherries somewhere on her holidays. Actually this bill is more— 
Andrew Little 
: Which one is it—berries or cherries? Come on. 
KATRINA SHANKS 
: And Andrew Little who has just now sat down—I wonder whether he has actually read the bill—quoted some bits out of his notes which did not really make a lot of sense I have got to say. 
This bill is actually a very very important bill for many families and vulnerable people in New Zealand. For me this is about allowing agencies NGOs and Government departments to be able to share more information with each other. Of course they can currently but the current legislation is unclear and there is a lot of misunderstanding around it. This gives the legislation more clarity. It also allows agencies to have an earlier intervention than they had before and that is really important. 
I want to briefly share one story. I spoke to somebody in the weekend a child psychologist and she said to me that she does a lot of home visits around New Zealand especially in rural New Zealand where she does all her work. I asked her whether she knew the other agencies that were meeting the families and the children. She said: “Yes I always ask the families ‘Who’s been to see you and what services are you getting?’ so we can have a collaborative approach.” I asked her what were the answers and she said: “Well I see them and I say that and some of them know who’s been up their driveway and who hasn’t and others go ‘Well we had a nurse but we don’t know where she came from and we don’t know really what she’s doing.’ ” 
I think if we want to have a good wraparound service for our families and our vulnerable families then we have to allow that information to be shared with those professionals. This legislation does have safeguards in it to protect those families in the information sharing. The select committee made a big recommendation actually for a new section which was taken up by the Minister of Justice and the Government. 
It is my pleasure to commend this bill to the House. I look forward to debating it further in the future. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I understand that the next call is a split call.
Vote: Corrections Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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Vote: Corrections Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Corrections Amendment Bill be now read a second time. 
Ayes 68 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 52 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Maori Party 3; Mana 1. 
Bill read a second time.
Simpson Scott: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — Second Reading 
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Simpson Scott: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — Second Reading 
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SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel) 
: 
 It is a pleasure to rise in support of the second reading of the Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill and to hear the Minister the Hon Judith Collins speaking so eloquently in the opening segment of this debate was a joy to behold for us all. But having heard the member who has just resumed her seat the Hon Lianne Dalziel one would be hard-pressed to consider that in fact the Labour Party was at all supporting this very good piece of legislation. It was only in the very last few minutes or few seconds indeed of her presentation that we actually garnered an understanding of the Labour Party’s support for this good legislation. It probably pays to remember that of the 20 submissions that were received by the Justice and Electoral Committee 18 were in support in full or in part including that of the Privacy Commissioner which supported it fully. 
The bill rightly aims to improve the rules around the collection storage and use of personal information. It is a tricky area. It is an area where Governments have to balance carefully and responsibly the rights of individual citizens against the need of the State and of the society we live in to ensure that vulnerable people are protected. So often over the years we have heard that our 20-year-old privacy laws have in fact acted as a barrier to prevent the free flow of information that in many cases could have and would have prevented evil from being done in our society had that information been flowing more freely. This omnibus bill seeks to remedy that and I think from what I can see in my reading of the work of the Justice and Electoral Committee that that fragile balance has been very neatly met in a careful and considered way by the committee. 
The bill has been some years in the making and it stems from the work of the Law Commission. It is an area where technology is changing quickly and that just means that as a Parliament and as a House we need to be even more careful about our obligations and our rights. The committee of course chaired so ably by my colleague Tim Macindoe the member for Hamilton West has made a number of recommendations and included in those are changes that would clarify in the bill that “serious threat” has to consider all three aspects of likelihood severity and timing. There is a new section to specify who could be parties to an information-sharing agreement and the guidelines that might be put in place around such an agreement. 
The bill I think is a good piece of work. It shows that the select committee process is working well and notwithstanding the minority opinion of the Labour Party I am looking forward to progressing this bill through the House. I stand tonight proudly in support of it and commend it to the House.
Ross Jami-Lee: Corrections Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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JAMI-LEE ROSS (National—Botany) 
: 
 We have got a good story to tell in corrections. Let me tell you that public confidence in corrections is up by 53 percent. It is 53 percent higher than it was when we came into Government. Prisoner education and employment training places have almost doubled and participation in prison drug treatment has doubled as well. That is a good-news story that the Opposition does not like to hear. 
I just want to briefly touch on a couple of points on this bill the Corrections Amendment Bill because my colleagues have covered many of them already. One is strip-searches. The Opposition is trying to make it sound as though the strip-searches in this bill are a completely new way of interrogating prisoners. Well they are not. Actually that type of strip-search is already in part of the Corrections Act. We are just extending it. The provision for strip-searches is in section 90 of the Corrections Act—the Corrections Act 2004. Which party was in Government in 2004? It was the Labour Party. Its members are all up in arms about it right now but actually they passed that piece of legislation with that exact type of strip-search in it. 
The second point I want to make is around the chief executive officer delegating in terms of private prison management. You know what? This is actually about helping Serco helping private prison providers to do their job better by allowing the chief executive to delegate some responsibility to them. It is about making them more efficient. The Opposition does not believe in that. The Opposition dos not want to help them do better. They just want to bag us and bag private prison management when actually they are doing a good job; they are achieving 90 percent of their targets. 
This bill is about making it better for corrections making it easier for them to serve New Zealanders and help ensure that fewer people reoffend in the future and that is a good thing.
Ngaro Alfred: Corrections Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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ALFRED NGARO (National) 
: 
 I am honoured to take a very short call on this bill the Corrections Amendment Bill. I follow the honourable member Mr Kris Faafoi who represented the reports of the submissions but has maybe been a little bit selective—it is clear that there was opposition from the prison union but there was strong support from prison wardens themselves around privatisation. 
We are clear that there have been some issues like there are for any organisation when starting out on a contract but what is really clear is that those were amended and currently 95 percent of the targets for Serco are being reached. I commend the Law and Order Committee for its work and its recommendations to the House and I commend this bill. Thank you.
McKelvie Ian: Corrections Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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IAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitikei) 
: 
 As we moved through the select committee process for this bill the Corrections Amendment Bill I guess I acquired a new appreciation of the work that our Department of Corrections does. It does a very difficult job well. As one moves through the changes this bill introduces one gets an idea of the difficult nature of the work of our prison officers. They deal with all sorts of things—strip-searches reading others’ mail preventing prisoners from harming themselves ensuring an opportunity for exercise access to drinking water and all sorts of other human rights issues. 
It is a very difficult job and in my view they do it pretty well. So it was an interesting process for me. I got not only an understanding of the difficulties prison officers face but also an idea of life in prison and the difference between those prisoners who have a will to improve their lives and those who do not. There is an opportunity provided for those prisoners to work and train for the future while in prison. Equally there is an opportunity for them to do the opposite and stay there for years. 
During the submission process the Law and Order Committee heard from a number of organisations from both sides of the fence. It never ceases to amaze me the lengths or extremes some of these submitters will go to to put their point. Consequently I think it is difficult to get a balanced position on the submissions. Interestingly tonight we have heard a number of speeches that were very different from any of the information or words spoken during the course of the select committee hearings—slightly astounding I thought. The “Sausage Factory Man” for example Charles Chauvel objected to the delegation of powers to people on the job which is a typical Labour Party response—inefficient and laborious. I think that this bill introduces a whole lot of efficiencies to a fraught system and I certainly have to support the allocation of work to the private sector. I think it is admirable so I certainly support this bill. Thank you.
Mitchell Mark: Corrections Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) 
: 
 It is a pleasure to take a call on the Corrections Amendment Bill. None of us likes strip-searching. No one in this House likes strip-searching. I am sure that the corrections staff do not like it. I know that the prisoners do not like it but it is a necessary part of prison life. The best way to avoid a strip-search is to not commit a crime in our communities. 
The reason why we have strip-searching in our prisons is that prisoners take contraband into the prison—whether it be weapons whether it be drugs—and there is a responsibility actually to protect not only the prisoner but also the other prisoners and importantly the corrections staff. For some reason Labour members do not like the private sector. I do not know what it is but they seem to have a real issue with the private sector. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: We don’t like the private sector getting into people’s private parts. 
MARK MITCHELL 
: Well actually that is probably a bit unfair on Mr Mallard because he has had a go at some entrepreneurship. He tried scalping some tickets. He tried taking advantage of some students so I guess it is a little unfair on Mr Mallard. 
However I would just like to talk a little bit about Serco because Serco has come under a fair bit of attack tonight. I would like to point out some of the great initiatives that actually Serco is bringing to corrections. There is the establishment of the specialised Care Support and Integration Unit where prisoners at risk of self-harm are housed. While in the unit prisoners are supported by trained staff and psychologists and are able to interact with and support each other. This unit has helped achieve a very low rate of self-harm incidents. In fact under Serco’s management there have been no deaths in custody and only one self-harm incident. That is a pretty good record. 
Serco has taken steps to make prison visits more family friendly to encourage prisoners to have regular positive engagement with their children. Maintaining relationships with family especially children is a major factor in reducing the risk of reoffending and in motivating prisoners to make positive changes. That is another pretty good positive step implemented by Serco. 
Finally the advantage of contract management is that it imposes financial penalties for non-performance on some targets. This is to ensure that there is motivation for Serco to consistently perform. I would say to this House that sometimes actually the greatest way to get someone’s focus and attention is if you are going to remove some financial incentive. I am in full support of the way this Government is using the private sector with a company like Serco to provide very good services and new initiatives in our Department of Corrections. Thank you.
Smith Nick: Debate on Prime Minister’s Statement 
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Hon Dr NICK SMITH (Minister of Conservation) 
: 
 I move  
That the debate be adjourned 
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Motion agreed to.
Curran Clare: Debate on Prime Minister’s Statement 
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CLARE CURRAN (Labour—Dunedin South) 
: 
 I seek leave to make a personal explanation in response to comments made about me by the previous speaker. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: It must be personal comments to you personally. Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 
CLARE CURRAN 
: I think it is important to put the correct facts into the  
Hansard  
around the donation of materials for Christmas hampers to the Hillside workers and my part in that before Christmas. There were 112 hampers put together. More than $18000 worth of goods was donated by dozens of local businesses which I organised and as I said 112 hampers were produced. Not all of the people given those hampers were union members. Quite a number of them were not union members and there were certainly more than 112 people still at Hillside. The list of people whom those donated hampers were given to was certainly drawn up by the union delegates who gave me that list and I was unquestioning in that because that was their right. As you can imagine there was a lot of emotion at the Hillside railway workshops before Christmas as 90 people lost their jobs due to the prioritisation by this Government of lowest cost— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Order! The member can relate only how you were personally affected by the comments that were being made. You cannot get into debate. Has the member finished? 
CLARE CURRAN 
: Not quite. I certainly think that there is relevance here because the previous speaker Mr Woodhouse has made comments about the unfairness of one particular person— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: No look—[ 
Interruption 
] Order! A personal statement is your response to be able to put your position. This is not a debate; it is about how the comments made by a previous speaker have affected you personally. That is your right and you have got leave to do that but you cannot then get into a debate about the substance of that. So I ask the member to be very succinct on this because otherwise I will close it down. 
CLARE CURRAN 
: Thanks Mr Speaker. Certainly it had an effect on me—having the wrong facts put into the  
Hansard 
 by the member across the House. There were certainly many people who received Christmas hampers who were not union members and there was certainly more than one person who did not receive a hamper for very good reasons. Thank you.
Roy Eric: Debate on Prime Minister’s Statement 
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Roy Eric: Debate on Prime Minister’s Statement 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Is some member seeking the call because I might have to put the question. I understand it is a Green call but if those members are not taking it—Dr Calder.
Officer Presiding: Election of Speaker 
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Officer Presiding: Election of Speaker 
[Sitting date: 31 January 2013. Volume:687;Page:7680. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER-ELECT 
: Honourable members thank you for electing me today as the 29th Speaker of the New Zealand Parliament. It is indeed a great honour. I want to assure all members that I will strive to master that transition from a partisan political player to a Speaker who upholds the democratic traditions of Parliament and respects the right of every one of you elected to this House to express your views within the rules of Parliament. In electing me as Speaker today you are charging me with the responsibility of upholding the dignity and the respect that this institution deserves and I accept that responsibility with enthusiasm. 
In formally accepting this role I do not underestimate the challenge before me. There will be occasions when the tension and the atmosphere within this House will fall somewhere between tinder-dry and white-hot. I see my responsibility being akin to a referee reffing the inevitable Super 15 final between the almighty Crusaders and one of the others—[ 
Interruption 
]—thank you kindly—and as a referee having to make an instant decision and of course not having access to the whistle. But I will have access to the yellow and the red cards although I hope they are used infrequently. 
Honourable members I want to take this opportunity to acknowledge the efforts of my predecessor. Dr The Rt Hon Lockwood Smith has received accolades from all political parties in Parliament for the way that he has upheld the privileges of this House and you its members. He has held Ministers to account and I intend to do the same. He is a fine role model but as I settle into this job my own style will undoubtedly emerge. 
Honourable members I wish to end on a brief reflection as Speaker-Elect and as a Cantabrian. Between 2005 and 2008 six members of Parliament educated at St Bede’s College a secondary school in Christchurch were members of this House. With my election today as Speaker St Bede’s can now claim two Speakers the late Sir Gerard Wall and me. Being the young man that I am I was not here in Sir Gerry’s time but some of our former members have said to me that of all the Speakers that they worked under he was the best. He certainly seems to have had a propensity to deal with disorder by expulsion from the House. On two separate occasions he expelled both the then Prime Minister David Lange and the then Leader of the Opposition Jim Bolger from the House on the same day. I certainly do not want to be in a position to emulate that record. Above all I intend to strive to maintain the dignity of this House and in an unbiased fashion. 
Honourable members as Speaker-Elect I will obey the instruction and go to the Governor-General at 4 o’clock this afternoon. I invite those of you who can do so to accompany me there. Again thank you for this opportunity.
Officer Presiding: Election of Speaker 
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Officer Presiding: Election of Speaker 
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Mr SPEAKER-ELECT 
: Members can I take this opportunity to thank the leaders of the parties for their kind words. I will be eternally grateful to the Hon Trevor Mallard that so many members follow his tweets and made sure that all members were in the House to ensure that I had the numbers. Thank you Mr Mallard for your contributions. 
For those of you who can join me at the Governor-General’s this afternoon I look forward to seeing you there.
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I would like to give special thanks to Dr The Rt Hon Lockwood Smith. I think it is fair to say that I possibly more than others in this Parliament today have more reason to thank him for upholding the rights of members. To Lockwood I say thank you not only for protecting me but for the very human face and care with which you have accorded my wife and children at a time of great difficulty and sadness for my family. I would wish to thank Lockwood for that from the bottom of my heart and from my family. I say arohanui and good luck—fair travels. Thank you.
Horan Brendan: Election of Speaker 
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Horan Brendan: Election of Speaker 
[Sitting date: 31 January 2013. Volume:687;Page:7686. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
BRENDAN HORAN (Independent) 
: 
 Mr Speaker-Elect I rise as an Independent member and congratulate you. I would also like to thank you for confirming that you will uphold the dignity and respect of this Parliament.
Brownlee Gerry: Election of Speaker 
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Brownlee Gerry: Election of Speaker 
[Sitting date: 31 January 2013. Volume:687;Page:7686. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Mr Speaker-Elect I rise as Leader of the House to offer my congratulations to you on your election to this position today. I think it is always important that you do have people who sit in the Chair who have the right sort of temperament and a great feel for the way in which Parliament works. Just 2 years into your political career you became a whip. I know that you have taken a huge amount of interest in the processes of the House and I am sure that you will have quite an instinctive feel for how the House needs to operate. 
Given that we do operate under different Standing Orders these days one of the things I would point to is the way in which the Business Committee now has I think a more meaningful role in the way in which the House decides how it will proceed. In that regard I take this opportunity to also thank Dr The Rt Hon Lockwood Smith for the way in which he has conducted that committee. I say conducted because it is not really a chairman’s role; it is a body where there is consensus reached and generally the acceptance is that where there is a broad view of representation from members then that will be the way in which things proceed. I am sure that you will be able to not only pick up where Dr Smith has left off but also enhance the work that that committee does. 
Dr Smith I do wish you all the best for your appointment. I know that your door will be open in London. And although you have been an excellent Speaker I do think that my former college mate is going to be just as good. Thank you.
Mallard Trevor: Election of Speaker 
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Mallard Trevor: Election of Speaker 
[Sitting date: 31 January 2013. Volume:687;Page:7686. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 Mr Speaker-Elect I want to join with the other members of Parliament who have congratulated you. The result of course was an expected result. I read on the  
New Zealand Herald 
’s website that the Prime Minister thought—well it indicated that the Prime Minister thought that the vote was going to be at 3 o’clock and I tweeted just to make sure that members did know that it was at 2 o’clock to make sure that we had a fair result. 
Mr Speaker-Elect I look forward to working with you inside and outside Parliament. I think a number of members of the public have seen the work of Dr Lockwood Smith inside the Parliament but I also want to acknowledge the work that he has done as the Speaker outside the House. In particular there is the work that he has done on the review of the Standing Orders which has meant that this place has flowed without urgency in a way that is much more logical with the Government getting its business done and the Opposition more able to focus on the things that it opposes rather than on delaying in the way that happened under urgency. 
I would join with Peter Dunne in indicating that the people who have advised you to follow Dr Wall’s advice have been misleading you. If you want to go for a Canterbury Speaker I would go for Kerry Burke. Kerry Burke was someone who knew how to play the advantage rule as a referee. I think he would be seen as a top test match referee whereas I think Dr Wall could well have been someone seen as a cricket umpire from Pakistan or somewhere like that. He was one of ours but I think it is fair to say that no one would accuse Dr Wall of being unbiased and fair. 
Mr Speaker-Elect I look forward to working with you as closely as you wish.
Banks John: Election of Speaker 
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[Sitting date: 31 January 2013. Volume:687;Page:7684. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon JOHN BANKS (Minister for Regulatory Reform) 
: 
 I rise on behalf of the ACT Party and the people of the Epsom electorate to congratulate you on your election to this high office. I am losing a bench mate and I am losing a next-door neighbour the bench mate who sat beside me here for the last 12 months—you Mr Speaker-Elect. Thank you for all your sage advice and useful help. I was campaigning around the electorate when you first stood for Parliament. I have had the privilege of being here when you gave your maiden speech and I said to you before you were dragged out of the chair kicking and screaming this afternoon that this would be a day in your life that you will never forget. What a high honour and what a great privilege you have been given. 
I was here 10 Parliaments ago when that great Speaker Sir Richard Harrison was sitting in that Chair. We could tell he was in the Chair because of the wig he used. I am not sure whether you are going to be using that wig Mr Speaker-Elect or where it is at these days but he was a fine Speaker from rural provincial New Zealand. What is it that they put in the milk of the cow farmers that makes such good Speakers—Sir Richard Harrison Dr Lockwood Smith and now yourself? 
Dr Lockwood Smith I want to say on behalf of the ACT Party congratulations on your outstanding job. Lockwood Smith is a much-loved member of the rural community in Northland where he has served so well for so long. I think he has made a major contribution to this country. I thought he was a magnificent Speaker and he is going to serve the interests of this country very very well in London. We wish him well. 
Mr Speaker-Elect I wish you well for your next change in direction as Speaker. I am very hopeful that I will be in my 20th Parliament to see you back as Speaker at that time or at the very least another fine New Zealander from rural provincial New Zealand.
Turia Tariana: Election of Speaker 
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Turia Tariana: Election of Speaker 
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Hon TARIANA TURIA (Minister for Whanau Ora) 
: 
 We want to congratulate the Hon David Carter as the Speaker-Elect to this House. One of the things we have noted is that you have had an ability to build relationships because of your thoughtful and constructive manner. I first came to know you in fact when I went with you on the Speaker’s tour to Europe with the Hon Doug Kidd. As a new member of Parliament at the time I certainly appreciated the wonderful support that you and your wife gave to me and my husband and I have never forgotten that. You have the assurance of the Maori Party that we will support you in your role. 
I also want to take the opportunity to offer our very sincere respects to the Rt Hon Lockwood Smith as he leaves Parliament to go to be the High Commissioner in London. Probably we will honour you most of all for the respect that you have paid to Te Reo Maori in this House but more important we remember that the first 20 kura kaupapa Maori that were established were in fact established by you when you were the Minister of Education. We do mihi to you for that because we know that what you did in your time as the Minister of Education set the Maori education pathway on to a road of success. So we thank you and we wish you very well in your appointment to London. Na reira ka nui te mihi rawa atu ki a koe e te rangatira. Tena koutou tena koutou tena tatou katoa. 
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And so I appreciate you greatly esteemed one. Salutations acknowledgments greetings to you and to us all collectively. 
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Turei Metiria: Election of Speaker 
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METIRIA TUREI (Co-Leader—Green) 
: 
 Congratulations Mr Speaker-Elect on your successful nomination as Speaker of this House. If I might first just say how much I have enjoyed and respected working with Dr The Rt Hon Lockwood Smith in his time as Speaker. He and I have not always agreed on every issue but it has been a great joy to work alongside someone who is prepared to engage in these disagreements and come to conclusions in a respectful and dignified way. I have appreciated that opportunity to work with him like that. And I expect that it will be the same with you Mr Speaker-Elect. We will not always agree on every issue but it is the way in which those disagreements are played out and the discussions that we have that really speak to the way that a Speaker and a caucus and an MP can bring dignity to this House. 
As you know a major issue for the Greens has been ensuring that this Parliament becomes a genuinely accessible Parliament for all citizens in this country. We look forward to working with you in the future to embed the commitment of this Parliament to being an accessible Parliament; to making sure all citizens have access to this Parliament—as members of the public as members of Parliament—because this is after all the people’s place. We look forward to working with you in the future and we wish you the very best for this new part of your parliamentary career. Kia ora.
Officer Presiding: Election of Speaker 
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[Sitting date: 31 January 2013. Volume:687;Page:7683. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER-ELECT 
: Thank you.
Officer Presiding: Election of Speaker 
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Mr SPEAKER-ELECT 
: Thank you Prime Minister.
Shearer David: Election of Speaker 
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DAVID SHEARER (Leader of the Opposition) 
: 
 Thank you Mr Speaker-Elect and I want to also congratulate you very warmly on behalf of the Labour Party and myself. We wish you all the very best in your role as Speaker. It was a contested election but we accept the will of the majority as is the way in this Parliament and we will work constructively with you to make sure that this Parliament and this House is able to go through the matters it needs to go through in a way that is befitting of both this House and what is expected of us from the people of New Zealand as well. So you certainly have my personal assurance on that and we look forward to working with you. 
I also just want to pay tribute to Lockwood Smith and to his contribution that he made. I think one of the things that we most appreciated from Lockwood was the fact that when we asked a straight question he insisted on Ministers giving an answer and that is a fine place to start Mr Speaker-Elect as you begin your Speaker’s career. But I also wanted to say that obviously he had his own idiosyncrasies as well and sometimes we would have preferred the Minister’s answer rather than his interpretation of the Minister’s answer to be the one that stood in the  
Hansard 
. However I do believe that he made a very very positive contribution in ensuring that the dignity of this House was upheld. We appreciate that Lockwood and we wish you all the very best as you go on your next challenge to be the High Commissioner in London. 
Once again our congratulations to you David. All the very best. You have served here 18 years and that experience will I am sure serve you well as you take up this new position. All the very best.
Vote: Election of Speaker 
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A personal vote was called for on the question  
of the election of the Speaker. 
Hon David Carter 62 
Adams 
Dean 
King C 
Sharples 
Ardern S 
Dunne 
Lee 
Simpson 
Auchinvole 
English 
Lotu-Iiga 
Smith L 
Bakshi 
Finlayson 
Macindoe 
Smith N 
Banks 
Flavell 
McClay 
Tolley 
Barry 
Foss 
McCully 
Tremain 
Bennett D 
Goldsmith 
McKelvie 
Turia 
Bennett P 
Goodhew 
Mitchell 
Wagner 
Blue 
Guy 
Ngaro 
Wilkinson 
Borrows 
Hayes 
O’Connor S 
Williamson 
Bridges 
Heatley 
Parata 
Woodhouse 
Brownlee 
Henare 
Ross 
Yang 
Calder 
Hutchison 
Roy 
Young 
Carter 
Joyce 
Ryall 
Coleman 
Kaye 
Sabin 
Teller: 
Collins 
Key 
Shanks 
Upston 
Hon Trevor Mallard 52 
Arden J 
Graham 
Mathers 
Stewart 
Browning 
Hague 
Moroney 
Street 
Chauvel 
Harawira 
Norman 
Tirikatene 
Clark 
Horan 
O’Connor D 
Turei 
Clendon 
Horomia 
O’Rourke 
Twyford 
Cosgrove 
Hughes 
Parker 
Walker 
Cunliffe 
Huo 
Peters 
Wall 
Curran 
Jones 
Prasad 
Williams 
Dalziel 
King A 
Prosser 
Woods 
Delahunty 
Little 
Robertson G 
Dyson 
Mackey 
Robertson R 
Faafoi 
Mahuta 
Sage 
Fenton 
Mallard 
Shearer 
Teller: 
Genter 
Martin 
Sio 
Hipkins 
Hon David Carter was elected as Speaker.
Horan Brendan: Election of Speaker 
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[Sitting date: 31 January 2013. Volume:687;Page:7679. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
BRENDAN HORAN (Independent) 
: 
 I seek leave that this election be conducted by way of a secret ballot. This would allow all members and New Zealand to be sure that the Speaker will enjoy the unquestioned confidence of this House. This has been discussed through the usual channels. 
The CLERK 
: Leave has been sought for the vote to be conducted as a secret ballot. Is there any objection? There is objection. Are there any further nominations? There being two members nominated a personal vote must be held. Ring the bells. A 7-minute bell will be rung. Those voting for the Hon David Carter will go to the right to the Ayes lobby and those voting for the Hon Trevor Mallard will go to the left to the Noes lobby. Any member abstaining will come to the Table. The teller for the Ayes lobby—the Hon David Carter—is Louise Upston. The teller for the Noes lobby—the Hon Trevor Mallard—is Chris Hipkins.
Peters Winston: Election of Speaker 
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Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 In that case I seek leave that there be a 1-hour debate after the vote takes place. 
The CLERK 
: Leave has been sought. Is there any objection? There is objection.
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Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 Due to the rather unusual circumstances of this transition to another Speaker and its nomination I seek leave for a 1-hour debate on this subject before any vote takes place. 
The CLERK 
: Leave has been sought. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Hipkins Chris: Election of Speaker 
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[Sitting date: 31 January 2013. Volume:687;Page:7679. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
CHRIS HIPKINS (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I second the nomination of the Hon Trevor Mallard for the office of Speaker.
Shearer David: Election of Speaker 
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[Sitting date: 31 January 2013. Volume:687;Page:7679. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
DAVID SHEARER (Leader of the Opposition) 
: 
 I nominate the Hon Trevor Mallard for the position of Speaker.
English Bill: Election of Speaker 
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English Bill: Election of Speaker 
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Hon BILL ENGLISH (Deputy Prime Minister) 
: 
 I second the nomination of the Hon David Carter for the office of Speaker. 
The CLERK 
: Are there further nominations?
Key John: Election of Speaker 
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Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister) 
: 
 I nominate the Hon David Carter for the office of Speaker.