Lee DeniseDENISE LEE (National—Maungakiekie): Thank you Madam Deputy Speaker and thank you to the previous speaker for that entertaining five minutes. [Interruption] It was entertaining—come on. It was entertaining.Simeon Brown: A Strange speech.DENISE LEE: It was a strange contribution—that's right.Undoubtedly we started with a bit of substance in this particular member's bill but we've ended up with a very very weakened process—so weakened that it's a little bit hard to figure out if there's any substance left. Previous speakers on this side have outlined substantial clauses that have midway through the process during the select committee process been wiped out taken away—gone zip gone-burger".Now all that we're left with is a couple of—in fact let me just read out some of the wording and the viewers tonight and everyone on all sides of the House can decide for themselves. So we have included—"young people;" has been put in as a stakeholder. That's not a bad contribution I have to say. The Children's Commissioner spoke quite long and vigorously on that regard. But "national representative organisations" have been replaced with "national bodies representing the interests of" specified stakeholders—not a lot of substance there. Replacing the word "good" with "positive" adding "to become lifelong learners" after a very long sentence—these sorts of things are going to have no substantial effect. They've removed "educational achievement" as a core objective. How is that going to help anyone in the educational system? The bill replaces this following sentence: "to focus on helping each child and young person to attain educational achievement to the best of his or her potential;" with this: "to provide learning experiences that support children and young people to reach their potential and a system that aims to achieve equitable outcomes for all;". It's just another way of saying what was already said. I'm struggling to figure out how any substance has been left in this bill and I've sat through the entire process.One more point: "the inclusion within society of different groups and persons with different personal characteristics:" has been replaced with "To instil an appreciation of the importance of an inclusive society where all people are valued and are supported to participate in ways that honour and value diversity:". We've just said before "within society of different groups and persons and persons with different personal"—this doesn't add up. It doesn't make sense. It's fluffing around with terminology.I think what's incredibly important here too is that there's been a lot made from the other side of the House about inclusion of stakeholders and there's been listing of all these important people groups—and isn't that fantastic; isn't that wonderful—yet they've failed to mention that all these stakeholders that have apparently been so wonderfully included already have to be consulted with. It's already in law. It is law that they be consulted with. So there is no extra inclusion. We're listing the people that already have to be consulted. Let me get my head round that—I actually can't.Now let's go to a couple of submissions in the short time that we have left. Post Primary Teachers' Association (PPTA)—right? We had a couple of really big unions come in and PPTA were very very clear on one thing: let's not do this bill right now. They could not have been any clearer: let's not do this bill right now. And guess what happened? The sponsor of the bill wiped out three-quarters of the bill straight after they left the room. So she clearly wanted to work with their strong suggestion of delaying the bill because of what they saw as poor timing given all the other changes that are happening to the education sector. She clearly wanted to listen to that particular union but I have a theory and that is that what she probably wanted to do was ditch the bill altogether but given that that's already happened once with the protecting teacher title bill I'm not sure they could afford to ditch another bill in its entirety again. There's already been one failure; they can't afford to have two. So we're hanging in there by little threads. We're hanging in there by the skin of our teeth with just little bits left to make sure that we can at least pass something."