Webb DuncanDr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour—Christchurch Central): Thank you Madam Chair. Kia orana. I want to put to the member in the chair Simeon Brown whether he has really seriously considered the Māori dimension of his bill because we know that in our prison population Māori are overrepresented—horrendously overrepresented—in our mental health statistics they're overrepresented; and in drug addiction and affliction they are overrepresented as well.Kiritapu Allan has put in an excellent Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) and it draws on a recent decision of the High Court in Solicitor-General v Heta. That is a very important decision and I would ask the member whether he's had a chance to perhaps have a look at that or similar materials because what it does is it lays bare the grievous effects that not all but many Māori have had through the essentially post-colonial lives that they're living that in fact they have never had an opportunity to flourish in the way that many others—and I suspect the member and I are amongst those others. That is a sentencing decision of Heta and Justice Whata using tools given in the Sentencing Act looks in great detail at the broad spectrum of the life that Heta who was a woman charged with assault and grievous bodily harm had gone through.One of the things I would ask is whether the member has carefully thought about the actual circumstances of the people who he is proposing to incarcerate for this extended period of time and the fact that they are tangata whenua—they are our Treaty partners—in many cases and that here we are doing something which I think really breaches the obligation of the Crown to care for to respect and to give rangatiratanga to our Treaty partners. I would absolutely ask him to look very carefully at Kiritapu Allan's Supplementary Order Paper because what it does—and there are a number of aspects to it. One is in respect of the offending and the personal circumstances of the offender and their cultural setting is something that Heta says should be taken into account. So that is the personal circumstances question. Then there is the question of restorative justice and Heta makes it clear that a restorative justice process and one that perhaps is in an appropriate cultural setting will also be appropriate but also sets out the wairua the spiritual dimension of the wrongdoing and the hauora the health dimension—it puts it in a Māori setting.What this one-line amendment to the Psychoactive Substances Act does is it entirely ignores those very important factors. So I really invite the member to stand and answer the question: what will this do in terms of the Crown's obligation to Māori? Does he accept that the people who will be most adversely affected by this amendment will be Treaty partners and I'd ask him what steps does he think are consistent with the Treaty that this bill does? Will he support Kiritapu Allan's bill which—Hon Ruth Dyson: SOP.Dr DUNCAN WEBB: —SOP—accepts Mr Brown's eight years in there but also says Look at all of these other matters." Te taha wairua te taha whānau—the family aspect. What family setting do the offenders come from? What are their relationships with iwi and hapū? Te taha hinengaro—the psychological aspect: what is the spiritual and psychological setting in which the offending took account?So Mr Brown what are you doing here? Have you taken these important matters into account because I think you are harming an important relationship."