Henare PeeniPEENI HENARE (Labour—Tāmaki Makaurau): Tēnā koe Mr Chair. Thank you very much for this opportunity. I stand in support of the Land Transfer Bill and I echo some of the sentiments made by my colleague Mr Raymond Huo over many of the technical aspects within this bill.I want to focus on a couple of things here in the preliminary provisions in Part 1. Under clause 5 Interpretation" it says here: " 'land' includes"—and you always look for the part that has got the underline. Having replaced "plants and trees on land" it says there "plants trees and timber on or under land"—"on or under land". I wonder whether this is aimed specifically at the types of industry I see growing particularly in the Far North around swamp kauri. Large holes in the ground up north suggest that many people have now gone in and raided the swamp kauri. They have finally seen the asset and the value in swamp kauri and I wonder just from the Minister whether there can be any more clarification of exactly—when it suggests there "plants trees and timber on or under land" is that specifically hoping to capture swamp kauri and if there are any other types of descriptions of "timber … under land" I would be interested to know what those are just for the purposes of this bill.The reason I say that is that while we support this bill it talks in this bill about fraud and the value of land and the ability to have compensation and how it has to be comparable in so far as people will be able in compensation to purchase another land block to the same value. In this particular part just in the interpretation—"plants trees and timber on or under land". The value of swamp kauri is huge. I have seen the market grow over the years from my time in the Far North. Once upon a time swamp kauri meant nothing and now all of a sudden people are actually approaching farmers and landowners to try to harvest the swamp kauri and sadly a lot of the anecdotal evidence anyway comes back that there are significant issues in that particular industry. But I digress. I am just trying to seek a little bit more clarification on exactly what that means and what some of the other timbers under land are that we might expect will be covered by this particular bill.Also I take the point made by my colleague around the departmental disclosure statement and say just how particularly good I thought the disclosure statement was. This was the result of a lot of great work done by many people and it says there in particular—and I think it is worth mentioning—George Tanner and Warren Moyes who I see sadly passed during the progress of this bill. I think it is important to place that on the record in the House.As we go through more parts of this particular bill—we have looked at Part 1 around these preliminary provisions. That looks pretty straightforward to me other than just that particular part under clause 5 "Interpretation" which says " 'land' includes—' and paragraph (d) as given there. So I will leave that there and I hope that some of my colleagues on this side of the Chamber will understand—[Interruption] Oh look I have no doubt that as we get into the more meaty parts of this bill—it has already been mentioned that it is rather technical—we will debate the merits of "mortgagee" and of course the definition of "fraud" a little bit later on. But I am very specific with my speech about asking exactly what "timber … under land" means so I will take my seat now. Kia ora."