Guy Nathan; Rurawhe AdrianHon NATHAN GUY (National—Ōtaki): Well that was a riveting address there from James Shaw; enlightening—enlightening.It's interesting I follow rural media clippings very very closely as the Opposition spokesperson for the primary sector and guess who I saw on a farm in the last week or so? Go on have a guess—have a guess. His first visit ever to a dairy farm. Come on who've we got? Have a guess. No it wasn't Metiria Turei she's gone. No. It was James Shaw. I scrolled down the photo to have a look at the gumboots he had on—Wairarapa's been pretty dry it's almost in a drought—and there they were shiny brand new gumboots never been on a farm before. But I acknowledge James Shaw for getting out on a farm. He made some—Hon James Shaw: Biosecurity.Hon NATHAN GUY: Yeah yeah that's right—that's right. He talked about biosecurity clean gumboots well done. But it would pay that he gets on a few more farms as Minister for Climate Change. Because farmers are focused on environmental sustainability but they're also very mindful of the fact of this review that is proposed following this very truncated bill that we are debating under urgency this evening at 8.45. I can't believe as I said in the first reading—there's no reason that I can fathom that this bill couldn't have gone to the Primary Production Committee for even a truncated select committee period. I get the fact that the date in the South Island is going to expire 31 May 2018 but you would've thought that there was an opportunity for the Parliament to get going on this a bit quicker. It wasn't part of the 100-day programme because Labour and the Greens don't care about the primary sector we're still trying to work out whether New Zealand First does. So here we are now debating under urgency; no select committee process. And people on the other side of the House used to rail against a National Government whenever we put the House into urgency and we're not hearing that tonight; they're saying Just put it through."But getting back to the point of why James Shaw went on a farm he went on a farm so that the Green Party tentacles could reach inside this review. He's already concluded rightly that the Dairy Industry Restructuring Act (DIRA) doesn't have anything to do with the environment. Yes dairy farming we acknowledge does have an impact on the environment just like humans do just like buildings in metropolitan areas but the reason that James Shaw went on a farm was so that he—Hon Tracey Martin: Come back to the bill.Hon NATHAN GUY: —I am—so that he could understand this bill this evening and the importance of the dairy industry to New Zealand but also so that when the review comes through the Cabinet process he knows what he's talking about. And so that that review instead of being tight and considered and concise to do with export markets open entry and exit provisions raw milk regulations farm gate factory gate—all of those things are logical in a review—but what we are going to see is that this review is going to be broadened out so that the Green Party can have their way and get their tentacles into it. So it's going to be a broader review than just the state of the New Zealand dairy industry.What was also telling this evening in the second reading of this bill was when the Minister stood up and said "Oh yeah I should've brought the terms of reference down to the House but my officials have been too busy dealing with Mycoplasma bovis." I know that that is a very significant issue not just for the dairy industry but for the beef industry but for the Minister to come down to the House when he has got 2500 officials working in the Ministry for Primary Industries and say "Oh we couldn't get round to doing the terms of reference getting them through a Cabinet process and bringing them to the House so that we could all understand them because they're just too busy on M. bovis." well that is so disappointing to hear from the new Minister when he's got all these officials queued up at his door writing down every "um" and "ah" that he stutters when he's talking about the New Zealand dairy industry.What we also haven't heard about from him—we've heard the rhetoric about a primary industries advisory council. What would happen if they advised the Minister that there should be changes made to this bill this evening? Wouldn't that be kind of interesting? He's also talking about something a bit like Sir Peter Gluckman a science adviser but having something for agriculture. I think that could actually be quite a good idea. But what is not acknowledged in this bill tonight and hopefully will be acknowledged in the review is how the dairy industry is moving out of commodities and into value-add—nutraceutical products. It's not just whole-milk powder; mozzarella cheese which I've already talked about. Fantastic innovation coming out of Palmerston North—Fonterra's innovation centre is massive and doing really well. That is not acknowledged by anyone on the other side of the House.Here we are this evening debating under urgency a bill that is affecting just the seller and that is still significant by itself. You would think we would hear acknowledgment from the other side of the House about how important the New Zealand dairy industry is to the overall New Zealand economy. You can bet your bottom dollar that Grant Robertson is up there with his Treasury officials hoping like hell that the Fonterra milk price stays up where it is because if it drops and it may well do in the future at some stage in the next season or two then it's going to make it very difficult for the Government to balance its books with its spending priorities that it faces in front of itself.Anyway to conclude really where I started. This bill should be going to a select committee and there's no reason why it can't. I'm disappointed that the Minister has chosen to put the House into urgency for this. The second part is that it's great that James Shaw has been on a farm for the first time. Well done! He needs to get on farms more often and understand what farmers are doing in terms of environmental sustainability excluding dairy stock from waterways. I know the reason he did that and that's so he can understand the terms of reference. It's going to take 12 months and it'll be really costly. We still don't know who's going to drive it. Is it the Ministry for Primary Industries is it the Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment is it Treasury is it an external lead person? We still don't understand about the submission process on that.Also I'm very disappointed in the fact that in the campaign we saw the arrogance from Labour and the Greens using the dairy industry as a bit of a whipping boy. As a result of what they did and proposed to do with the irrigation tax farmers rallied and met in Morrinsville. That was a massive rally. It was as big as the one that I saw on the steps of Parliament with the tractor that Shane Ardern drove up the steps.Hon Tracey Martin: Winston Peters was there.Hon NATHAN GUY: So I say to Barbara Stewart who keeps chipping away and trying to interject—well they're not very funny and they're not rare and they're not reasonable. So I'm just ignoring her. But I say to her that it's kind of interesting when we read Winston Peters' press releases leading into the campaign about the DIRA and now they are supporting it.So we will watch this space with a great amount of interest. We look forward to our questions that we are going to propose to the Minister when he's in the chair in the committee part. We have got numerous questions and we look forward to ongoing discussion and debate.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe): I call Dr Liz Craig—five minutes."