Davidson Marama; Salesa JennyHon MARAMA DAVIDSON (Minister for the Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence): We welcome—the Green Party—this long long overdue repeal of the perverse and archaic and completely ineffective three-strikes law. We hope that it also signals a move to a more transformative system of justice and reform.Now I just want to start by making it very very clear: every week every week it is my privilege and responsibility as Minister for the Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence to be meeting with engaging with learning from and listening to victims of crime and victim advocates of crime and NGOs and civil society groups who are advocates for a reform and transformation to a justice system that truly makes our communities safe. This was not what they were asking for—this three-strikes law was not what they knew was going to make them safe and healthy and well. So the repeal of this legislation is absolutely in line with the very conversations that I have every week directly with victims and survivors of some of the most heinous heinous harm and hurt that we can ever imagine in this House. So let me firstly make that very very clear.What I also want to make very clear is there is a difference between accountability and ineffective punitive approaches that do not even make the community safe. All our victims want and deserve accountability. All of our victims and survivors of serious crime know that a community-strengthening approach that addresses the drivers of offending is what will make our communities safer for everyone. What I did not hear as I was traveling around the country and attending hui to pull together a strategy to eliminate violence was a call for this type of ineffective absolutely not-led-by-evidence approach to crime. So I am very pleased to finally—and it was also a very hard push for the Greens especially in the last term when it was blocked by New Zealand First—see this step towards a more robust and transformative justice system that will actually make our communities safer. And I'm pleased to have the deep insight of victims and survivors of crime to inform my stand here tonight in this House.Now I also want to pick up on the constitutional debate and the judicial debate that has also been happening here in the House. It was really interesting to hear the previous National Party speaker the Hon Mark Mitchell referring to numbers that indicated that not many third-strike convictions were actually happening. Do you want to know why? Because judges have had to weasel their way around this perverse stupid piece of legislation to uphold proper sentencing approaches and principles. The Supreme Court has had to intervene on judicial approaches because of this idiotic legislation which still doesn't make victims and survivors and their communities safer. So this unnecessary unsafe ineffective legislation also has caused the judiciary to have to do all sorts of somersaults to try and respond to bad legislation.So yeah we've had some numbers raised here in this House numbers which continue to support why it's absolutely essential to repeal this piece of law. Time and time again the evidence has been absolutely solid that it has not—this legislation the evidence is out the door round the back around the block quite a few times and back into this House again. That's how long the evidence is to point to the fact that it has not made our communities any safer at all.So I cannot wait to hear the Opposition members National and ACT members stand up and celebrate when I announce before the end of the year a national strategy to eliminate family violence and sexual violence and a transformative approach to justice and to strengthening our communities. I can't wait to see those members who are feigning their concern on the floor of this House tonight pretending to care about making communities safer—I can't wait to see them putting out the press releases supporting this work this work that has been led by victims and survivors and advocates of community safety. If they want to repeal this law in the name of safety I cannot wait to see them supporting more transformative approaches to rehabilitation to proper accountability and alternative forms of true and enduring justice especially for victims and survivors of heinous violent crimes. I can't wait to see them helping to advocate for mental health support for wellbeing and housing and income supports to those on the lowest incomes to those missing out the most to engaging with people who use harm—which is also an absolute approach to the drivers of offences—instead of using political poll-driven data to drive their policies. Well that hasn't proven to be a good tactic has it?How about instead they refer to robust evidence on crime robust evidence on safety? How about they listen to victims' advocates to victims and survivors groups and actually understand what is really needed for truly strengthening communities? I am pleased to support this bill to the House.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): This debate is interrupted and is set down for resumption next sitting day. The House stands adjourned until 2 p.m. tomorrow.Debate interrupted.The House adjourned at 10.02 p.m.