O'Connor GregGREG O'CONNOR (Labour—Ōhāriu): There'll be people watching this on television—the general debate. This is the time when they expect us all to have a go at each other's throats. This is the time when politicians—really the gloves are off. It's when we're unbound by the normal rules—or some of the normal rules—around debating legislation.But can I invite those watching—in fact my colleagues everyone—to feel sorry for those sitting on the opposite side to feel sorry for those in Opposition. Look they're good people. I've been on a sports field—notwithstanding what Matt King just did. I found that a little disgraceful. But I've—SPEAKER: Order! The member will resume his seat. I know the member is a new member but there is a very strong convention in the House and that is when a matter has been dealt with by way of point of order it is left behind and not mentioned further.GREG O'CONNOR: Thank you Mr Speaker. It's a terrible day when one goes to bed not knowing something they didn't know when they woke up. So I'm grateful for that piece of advice and I'll make sure—SPEAKER: And it's also a convention not to comment on Speakers' rulings. So just keep going.GREG O'CONNOR: Thank you very much Mr Speaker. So going back to this sympathy I feel—I don't feel sympathy for the Opposition for the fact that they are in Opposition although I have seen a few of them standing looking wistfully as Crown cars have gone and they are walking through the rain to the taxi.No what I feel very sorry for them about is that the reality is now dawning on them. The bubble that they have lived in—the only people on that side of the House who weren't in it were their ex - Prime Minister their other ex - Prime Minister and now their ex - Minister of Finance all of whom have gone. Clearly it was they who were in charge of the messaging. It was they who clearly told them everything was OK. And now I feel sorry for these people as they sit through select committees and they see submitters coming through here and telling the truth telling it as it is telling us the effect of the underfunding of the last nine years.Anyone can run a surplus if you don't pay the bills and you don't do the maintenance. Well let's just talk about paying the bills. Let's just go to the Cullen fund. I mean they cut that off and now here we are appointing a new leader Mr Orr who made an average of 10 percent over his time looking after that fund. Just imagine how much better this country would have been off had the Opposition not cut that spending at the time.What about Better Public Services? Oh that was well praised—Better Public Services. Well again with my colleagues I sit in select committees as we hear Government departments coming through. It's quite clear that Better Public Services were simply cheaper public services and now who's going to have to foot that bill?Everywhere we look we see that those members who I continue to feel sorry for did live in that fantasyland. How terrible it must be to now get the realisation of just why and how they were able to live in this fantasyland of excesses. Mind you we had Australia. We were lauded by their now Prime Minister and we were very popular there evidently at a time when our crooks were being dumped over here when our citizens living there were having reduced rights around education and various other services that any New Zealander in the past had been able to avail themselves of.Sit and look at these members of the Opposition. Look at them thinking now that yes we've seen the hospital up at Middlemore. If that's not an absolute classic case of not paying the bills—because we've now got a hospital. We're going to—$11 million we've had to basically put in there now and who knows what we're going to have to put in. Every stone we pick up there are scuttling critters underneath it and those critters represent underspending underfunding and who's going to have to fix it? We're going to have to fix it.So when you sit there criticising when you sit there putting pressure on this side of the House—SPEAKER: Order! The member's time has expired.