Bishop Chris; Hipkins ChrisCHRIS BISHOP (National): The Minister makes a good point I think around the right communication going to people as to what they should do when they become symptomatic and what they should do around testing. That I think has been one of the things that many in the public have been alarmed about in the last two or so weeks with the communication that has come from the Prime Minister down in fairness to the public around what the right messages are and what people should be doing. So I guess the question for the Minister is does he on behalf of the Government accept some responsibility for confusing messages around what people should and shouldn't be doing in particular in relation to the case of the KFC worker who we had the unedifying spectacle of the Prime Minister saying the judgment of the whole nation had to come down on that person—Rt Hon Jacinda Ardern: That is not what I said about them—not about them.CHRIS BISHOP: Well that is what you said when—SPEAKER: Order!CHRIS BISHOP: —that person insists to this day that they simply followed Government instructions.Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister for COVID-19 Response): I think this was well canvassed last week and my view is very similar to the Prime Minister's which is that there was certainly enough information that that person should have known that they needed to be at home including the fact that they had been asked to be tested and hadn't been and that they had two members of their household who were showing COVID-19 symptoms who had also been asked to be tested. There was a lot of communication from the school. One of the things the review team will look at—and the Ministry of Health are already looking at this as part of their own debriefing process—is whether having additional categories of contact added to confusion. The key message overall here needs to be that people should follow the advice that is given to them by public health officials because it will be different depending on people's individual circumstances. So yes there will be broad advice that's issued to everybody but where people are contacted by public health then they should follow the advice that they are given specifically by public health. That would certainly be aided if they responded to messages that they get from public health. CHRIS BISHOP (National): Thank you. I want to ask the Minister around the legal regime and self-isolation and testing. Dr Bloomfield says that medical officers of health have delegated authority from him and that orders to self-isolate and get tested are within the parameters of section 70 of the Health Act—that was at the press conference last week. Dr Andrew Geddis from the University of Otago has cast doubt on that proposition. We're told that a section 70 order was formally issued last week but was publicly unavailable for quite some time and then we had Dr Bloomfield at the press conference in which the decision was made to go from level 3 in Auckland to level 2 again actually formally issuing a formal section 70 order orally and then it was subsequently uploaded to the website which I suppose makes people wonder why that had to happen in the first place later on if the section 70 orders were made orally by medical officers of health in the first place. So two questions firstly—SPEAKER: Order! Order! The member's time has expired.Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister for COVID-19 Response): Just very briefly responding to that the member is to some extent asking for a legal opinion and I best not venture into that territory. But what I would say is the advice that I have received is that a medical officer of health can give an order verbally and somebody needs to follow that. So that is an enforceable order if it is given verbally.