Simpson ScottHon SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): Thank you Mr Chair. Now I also want to take an opportunity to speak in support of the tabled amendment in the name of my colleague Stuart Smith. In doing so I'm reminded of the very good work that was done in I think it was the 51st Parliament and led to a large degree by the former Green MP Dr Kennedy Graham. It was Kennedy Graham who—Hon Member: Fine man.Hon SCOTT SIMPSON: —was a very good and decent member of this Parliament. Hon Member: What happened to him?Hon SCOTT SIMPSON: Well unfortunately he left under sad circumstances because he was let down by his party. But that's not the reason that I want to talk about Dr Kennedy Graham. I want to talk about Dr Kennedy Graham because he was actually the person who I think was pivotal in terms of bringing a sense of cross-partisanship on climate issues to this House. The amendment that my colleague Stuart Smith is proposing to clause 9 would actually advance and further set in place that general consensus of the direction of travel in terms of climate issues. I think that Stuart Smith makes very good points when he talks about the degree of collegiality that has been present on almost all climate matters in this House since the work done by GLOBE the Vivid report the path to net zero—that very good report that I and others were involved with. I would hate to see that sense of collegiality that sense of cross-party support bipartisan support would be evaporated for lack of support on what I think is a very practical very sensible proposal by Stuart Smith.Stuart Smith makes the point that in reply to the Minister—who said well oh you know that might apply to the current Government the current Parliament because the Labour Party currently has an absolute majority that we all know won't last for ever. If there is one thing that is certain it is that all Governments sooner or later are temporary and it's just a question of how long that temporary nature is. So the make-up of this Parliament will in future times change. I'm convinced it'll be in 2023. There'll be a complete reversal and the new Prime Minister the new National-led Prime Minister will of course be a regular guest on the Mike Hosking show. But this piece of drafting that Stuart Smith's put together actually accounts for a situation where the make-up of this Parliament will be different and it doesn't name parties; it just says the leader of each party that is not in Government or in coalition with the Government". So that leaves a high degree of flexibility about who would be—it'll be clearly in an MMP environment. It will be the leaders of the parties that do not make up and are not part of the current Government in power. I think that's a very astute very wise option because what it does is it gives a sense of inclusion of the whole Parliament to this process. Like it or not there are people outside this Chamber—probably there are some inside this Chamber—who remain incredibly sceptical about the whole climate change issue the whole emissions trading scheme system. They are sceptical about the motives the rationale the reason the cost the implications for them and their families and their businesses. This is a small step that in my view would help alleviate some of those concerns because it would again be a pointer to an action of good faith an action of openness and transparency which is often—well actually no; these days it's not often cited by the Government at all. It used to be. It was for a brief period of time for about three weeks and then suddenly it went out the door and openness and transparency has gone. So here is an opportunity—here is an opportunity Minister for you to reconsider your initial rejection of Stuart Smith's proposal. Like him I urge you to reconsider it. I urge you to think about the perception that would be conveyed not only across this Parliament and the people who sit in it but also to the wider audience and public of New Zealand to business to commercial operators to individuals to families communities councils and the like.So Minister you for better or for worse have a reputation of being a Minister that listens. You have a reputation for being a Minister that considers carefully a whole range of issues and on this matter I would like to think that you might reconsider and give Stuart's amendment some consideration."