Wall LouisaLOUISA WALL (Labour—Manurewa): Kia ora. I too would like to start by acknowledging the Minister and the Social Services Committee. The subject matter is probably an area or a topic that none of us would like to discuss. The fact that we are today debating the merits of the Child Protection (Child Sex Offender Register) Bill or if my colleague Jacinda Ardern's Supplementary Order Paper 193 is supported the Child Protection (Child Sex Offender Government Agency Registration) Bill is—I was going to say incredibly sad because in preparing for my contribution today I looked for some statistics.I found a piece of research which is on the Department of Corrections website actually and it is called Reconviction Rates of Sex Offenders: Five year follow-up study and it looked at sex offenders from 1 January 2001 to 31 December 2003. There were 1100 male sex offenders. Of those 63 percent or 689 were child sex offenders which is pretty harrowing actually. Then when I looked at some of the descriptions I will call them—on average they were 41 years old 56 percent were 40-plus when released 35 percent were Māori 51 percent European and 13 percent Pasifika. The interesting part for me—because this whole corrections research project was about recidivism—was that what they found of the 689 child sex offenders 66 percent were first-timers so that is 455; of those 19 percent were reconvicted within a 60-month period post their release. I guess some people would see that as a good thing but I looked a bit deeper into the numbers and it actually means that of the 455 first-time offenders 369 are out there—somewhere. We do not know where they are and no one is monitoring them.I can see the intent behind this piece of legislation when I look at figures like that because actually it is a safeguard for us when they stay in the system which is incredibly perverse. What is incredibly interesting too was that of the recidivist offenders of which there were 234 54 percent were reconvicted within that 60-month period—126 people—but only 13 or 4 percent were reconvicted for sex offending on children. I actually can see the intent behind this piece of legislation so I am getting up to support the Minister. I think that in light of some of the recent community commentary however on where these sex offenders are currently being placed what I am hoping is that not only are we going to have a register but we are actually going to think through where people should be rehabilitated in the community. I want to particularly pick up on a comment by the Minister Anne Tolley who said that these offenders have to manage their urges. I guess my challenge back to the Minister to the ministry and to all of those involved in monitoring these child sex offenders is: is managing them within a kilometre of a school where they can see children where children actually in Māngere's case saw them—and from what we have heard there were issues of masturbation because this particular offender was getting off on seeing the kids—appropriate?There was an interesting ad in Germany in 2005 and it said: You are not guilty because of your sexual desire but you are responsible for your sexual behaviour." I think the reality for some child sex offenders who are paedophiles managing their urges—as the Minister said—is actually also the responsibility of the Government because if we are going to put people back into the community and rehabilitate them then we have to make sure that they are going to be in the best environment so that those urges do not pose a risk not only for our kids but for them."