McClay Todd; Tuiono Teanau; Pugh MaureenHon TODD McCLAY (Minister of Agriculture): Mr Chair thank you so much. On the last question around industry transformation plans (ITPs) well what the Government's doing to transform the industry is working with them. You see over the last six years there were more than 20 pieces of legislation or regulation thrust upon rural New Zealand that didn't achieve what the owners of those rules and regulations the last Labour Government said they would. They had a cost and complication. It didn't drive the outcome—didn't drive the outcomes in the environment certainly not in climate change certainly not anywhere. And all it did was add cost to what is the most productive food-producing sector in the world.So we don't need big studies to sit and work with the agriculture sector and decide how to transform them. They actually know how to do this; they're innovative; they're hard working; they're men and women of New Zealand that grow the economy and who are actually going to help New Zealand pay back the large amounts of debt that the last Labour Government ran up for them. And we're going to do that by working with them and focusing on the outcome not just the process. We don't want more rules; we want fewer rules. We want better rules that achieve what they need to that allow the rural committee get on and do what we want them to which is work hard farm hard take those risks in their businesses care deeply about the environment meet their obligations help New Zealand meet its climate change obligations and in so doing grow the economy creating jobs and a future for any New Zealander who wants it.And so when we get asked about you know What are you doing around industry transformation?" this industry doesn't need transforming; it just needs backing. And you have a coalition Government that trusts farmers backs them and will work with them to drive the outcomes that we need. And with that in mind I'm very very proud of the work that my two colleagues and I have been able to start—and the coalition Government—in making changes early on that actually will drive better outcomes for water quality and that will back farmers to be able to do the things that they want to which is farm well and care about their land. Because to any member on my left from the Labour Party that says they know best about the land they're not the owners of it or the ones that are working on it every day they're not the Māori organisations that actually care about the land they're not the men or women that get out of bed every day that will make sure that their land does what it needs to because that's where they get their livelihood from.And so we campaigned on getting Wellington out of farming and Mark Patterson Andrew Hoggard and I on behalf of rural New Zealand as the Ministers responsible for that will make sure that we not only get Wellington out of farming but that farming is strong and the environment continues to improve and it continues to get better. And that job is something that will have to be enduring; it will have to continue; it'll have to every day because these two colleagues of mine and I care as much about the environment as we do agriculture. And that's something that I hear as we're out in rural New Zealand—farmers talking about the environment what they need to achieve—more than they talk about production. So what we need to do is get the rules right get the framework right build some trust get the decision making from the small buildings of Wellington without windows out of the way back rural New Zealand and allow them to take responsibility for themselves. You've got a Government to partner and do that.CHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono): The question is That the report of the Finance and Expenditure Committee on the annual financial statements of the Government for the 2022/23 financial year be noted.Motion agreed to.Report noted.CHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono): The question now is That the reports of committees on annual reviews be noted.Motion agreed to.Reports of committees on annual reviews noted.CHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono): The question now is That clauses 1 to 8 and schedules 1 to 6 stand part.Clauses 1 to 8 and schedules 1 to 6 agreed to.Bill to be reported without amendment.House resumed.CHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono): Madam Speaker the committee has considered the Appropriation (2022/23 Confirmation and Validation) Bill and reports it without amendment. I move That the report be adopted.Motion agreed to.Report adopted.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh): This bill is set down for third reading immediately."