Sio Hon Aupito WilliamHon AUPITO WILLIAM SIO (Minister for Pacific Peoples): I'll respond to the Hon Todd McClay the previous speaker simply by saying that the heart of any economy is its people and our best economic response is keeping people safe and alive. If we were to follow that example there we would be expecting many many more people infected with COVID-19 and many more people dying but that's not the case. I just want to say to him that on the ground—not in these halls here but on the ground—people appreciate that there is a wage subsidy that's available for them and appreciate the food parcels that are being delivered to the many health providers and community organisations on the ground through the machinery of all of Government. In times like this leadership is important and we all know the leadership that is coming from this Government. We all agree it's been strong it's been decisive and it's been compassionate. It's been in a global pandemic which affects all four corners of the world including our own precious Aotearoa New Zealand. It's leadership from all sides that we require not the kind of leadership who presents arguments for the sake of trying to find criticism. They need to present more suggestions that may be useful to our overall approach. I want to acknowledge the leadership that's on the ground the leadership not just from politicians like myself but the leadership coming from our Government agencies—leadership coming from the Ministry for Pacific Peoples for example who have in the past several weeks been working closely to bring together the all-of-Government approach with the Ministry of Health the district health board the National Emergency Management Agency and all the Pacific providers in making sure that they are talking and engaging with our communities in Auckland. We've learnt lessons from last time that we were in lockdown levels 4 and 3 and we're now able to use those lessons won to make sure that information is available for all parts of our society and languages have been critically important for Māori for Pasifika and for the Asian communities. Presenting our safety messages in those particular languages has helped people to be informed to be educated and therefore to provide the leadership that they need to provide for their families for their church organisations and for the community. I think we need to remember that they are looking to us for decisive confident and compassionate leadership and often what they're hearing is bickering—bickering coming from politicians—not just from that side of the House but also the wannabe politicians outside of this arena. That's not being helpful because a lot of misinformation is out there and therefore that one source of truth coming from our clinicians and our scientists delivered by the Minister of Health and our Prime Minister is important to keep people safe. I want to say to our Pacific providers—there are a number of them and I hesitate to name one because I might forget the rest of them. But those providers on the ground have been nimble they have acted and they've learnt the lesson from the previous time so that they're able to get the work happening on the ground. It's been wonderful to observe how those health providers have been engaging with different church leaders here and I want to acknowledge the diverse Pacific leadership our church leadership not just in Auckland but right across New Zealand. COVID-19 gave us Zoom all that technology and other platforms online to be able to share how people were feeling on the ground and to provide those important insights to help officials be able to respond and respond we have been able to do. There are no perfect answers in this because we're dealing with a virus a virus that has claimed 848255 lives globally. Over 25 million globally have been infected. If you look at the stats in America in Canada in the UK in India and across the Ditch to Melbourne we are very fortunate that our going hard going fast and going early and eliminating the virus with all of us playing our part has been important. Otherwise we could be facing much much worse.