Williams Arena; Goldsmith PaulARENA WILLIAMS (Labour—Manurewa): Thank you Mr Chair. There are two parts to this question. The first is my question about the deceased person. And this is an important question because there's situations where gang insignia is displayed on a coffin. I was just explaining this to one of my colleagues who's not familiar with this practice and so I'll do so for the benefit of the Minister. It is common practice within gang tangi or gang funerals for insignia to be displayed on a coffin either in the form of a jacket or in another form—Grant McCallum: Repetitive. ARENA WILLIAMS: —say a picture. The reason this contribution isn't repetitive for the benefit of the member—I think the member from Northland—is that the Minister hasn't considered this. So I'll explain quickly to him what the problem is. This is a common practice for gang funerals and so it will come up in opportunities where often police are asked to intervene in gang funerals and these are often high-profile events that are of considerable gravity and stress for the police who are asked to enforce them. And we see that they attract a lot of political attention but also public attention and media attention.So the question that I'm asking the Minister is an important one. And when courts or police are asked to come back to what the intention of Parliament was when this bill was passed I want to be clear as a Parliament that the Minister has not answered my question and so they must conclude that it is the intention of Parliament that undertakers that people who carry on the business of funeral direction that hospitals and that people who conduct the affairs of the marae as the legal owners of the marae are not intended to be considered as persons under his provision at Part 2 clause 7(1). So it's important now that we acknowledge in this Chamber that there is no disagreement from the Minister that persons do not include anyone who is giving effect to the wishes of the deceased person; that should also include the executors of the will or the executors of the person who is deceased and the funeral director included. So when it's read back we would accept that this was the case.My second set of questions to the Minister are a separate one. Given his interest and the interest of the Minister of Police in stopping the membership and recruitment of gangs for young people—and this is a particular concern of mine; it was the issue that I raised at the first reading of this bill—I am really concerned here that this bill isn't clear about the punishment for people who are family members of young people people who are under 18 who would be wearing gang colours and gang insignia. There should be a harsh punishment for parents or for immediate family members who are dressing young people in their control in gang insignia and there should be a harsh punishment for people who wish to recruit young people to gangs and have them wearing gang insignia. That is not included in this bill. And I'm asking the Minister whether that's an oversight or whether it's intended that Part 2 clause 7 does include young people and the intention is to punish young people who are put in that position?Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister of Justice): Just in reply to the first part of the member's questions in terms of the responsibility in terms of gang patches and funerals and so forth the law is very clear: it is the person who displays the gang patch who is responsible and it needs to be in a public place. Those are the matters that are relevant.