White Helen; O'Connor GregHELEN WHITE (Labour): Thank you. It's a pleasure to take a call on this bill. I'd like to kind of take up from where Angela Roberts left off because I think it was an interesting point—that this is a bill that is about really trying to honour somebody from another time and honour their intentions but actually make those relevant now. So it's going to be an interesting balance that has to happen.I was looking at the intentions as they were set out by Mr McLean and thinking about his heritage and the fact that he had come from a solo mother in a situation of deep poverty and how courageous it was for her to come out first to Australia and then to New Zealand and to actually do that journey but there were so many women like that at that time who did that journey. There's an interesting book—I think it's called One World and it's by Stephanie Johnson—which follows one of those women who actually is the author's grandmother coming out with her two boys to New Zealand and the kind of opportunity that that provided to escape that poverty but also the harsh world that they entered when they came here and they established themselves and sought a new life.This man has made a fortune and then tried to apply it to honour the people around him who obviously he saw and empathised with and so it's important we continue to honour that. But if we look at the words of the original intention we can see that it is very much steeped in its own time. It's actually incredibly sweet. It says that the money is to be able to allow these women to live in harmony under the same roof." It's quite a utopian vision. Again that is a sign of the times that he was living in where there was that kind of optimism about what to do. But in fact what he sets up is a structure where women who have absolutely nothing will be able to live there with their children but only until they're 10.Here I go back to my own heritage where I have a relative who wrote a book called Tooth and Nail. She was my mother's cousin and she was one of the girls in the Depression who went out to work in order to earn the money for the matriculation exam so that she could keep going through the education system and that's in the period in between. So this sort of opportunity for shelter would not have been available to her because she would have been over 10 and under 18.We have at least made that progress. We are now in a situation where we have free education. We really need to sort out making sure that everybody has a roof over their head—that does need to become something absolutely fundamental in a society. I think we're making great strides in that area because I think actually right around this House we would now agree that that was a settled principle. Actually it's only a decade ago that we didn't agree that that was a settled principle. It's only a decade ago because I remember when we had such a housing crisis in this country and we had people actually living in cars and suddenly sleeping on the street and no one—Nicola Grigg: What's changed? Hon Gerry Brownlee: It's all sorted now!Nicola Grigg: There's more in cars now. Hon Gerry Brownlee: It's gotten worse.HELEN WHITE: No one from the National Party—who were then the Government—would acknowledge that there was a crisis whatsoever. And there's no point cackling. It's absolutely the case at the time and there has to be a reckoning about that. There has to be a memory of that because that's something that actually is reflected here. The objects of this legislation will be to establish warm dry housing for those women and children and so this will be in line with that principle and that's a very important thing and I think we all agree that the spirit of this man's dream and vision for New Zealand was that—despite the fact that we may have changed the way we interpret that.DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member's time has completed."