Tisch Lindsay; Martin Tracey; Mahuta NanaiaThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): It is my view that it is now reasonable to move to the next theme.TRACEY MARTIN (NZ First): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. There are still five other Supplementary Order Papers that have not been addressed in these clauses because we have not had the opportunity to actually address them.The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): I say to the member that she has had four calls during that time to canvass the Supplementary Order Papers and the amendments that are on the Table. The Business Committee has made the determination that if the Chairperson at the time believes that the views have been put forward—and the Minister in this case has answered those questions posed to her—then it is reasonable to move to the next theme on the—[Interruption] No look I have explained the position. The members will sit. I have explained the position. This is a determination of the Business Committee that the Chairperson has the discretion as to whether we move to the next theme and I am exercising that discretion.Tracey Martin: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson.The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): If you are relitigating what I have already ruled on Ms Martin then that is out of order. Is this a new point of order?Tracey Martin: Yes Mr Chairperson.The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Tracey Martin—a new point of order.TRACEY MARTIN (NZ First): Mr Chairperson if you are going to close off the conversation around these particular clauses based on the Business Committee's decisions knowing that there are Supplementary Order Papers that have not been addressed I would like to recall the Speaker. [Interruption]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Order! The Speaker cannot be recalled because this is a determination of the Business Committee and the determination of the Business Committee is that when the Chairperson believes that there has been a reasonable debate and there has been a dialogue—and in this case the Minister has been posed questions and has answered those questions—we will move on to the next theme within the debate and that is what I intend to do now. So there is no further debate.Hon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour—Hauraki-Waikato): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. While I am not questioning the determination of the Business Committee in providing you with the ability to exercise discretion if the discretion is based on the number of calls sought and had by members I sought the call twice and was rejected from having the opportunity to take a call.The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): No it is not. I hear what the member is saying. It is not based on that at all. I keep a record of the calls. I am more interested—this is a themed debate. This is the first time we are doing a themed debate as opposed to a part-by-part debate so I am interested in the dialogue that has gone on and in the debate and the speeches that have been made in terms of the content of what has happened within a particular theme. I am satisfied that it has been well canvassed and I am also satisfied that the Minister has taken advantage of the opportunity to answer those questions posed of her. So we are now moving to the next theme. Members we now move to the debate on communities of online learning and this comprises clauses 38 72 and 145(3).