Smith NickClauses 1 to 3Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson): We are being asked to support the Crimes Amendment Bill as the name for this bill. The disappointment that members on this side of the Chamber have is that this Crimes Amendment Bill under that name will not meet the expectations that people would have. We would suggest that the bill with a title something like Crimes Amendment Broken Promises to the CTV Families" would be a more appropriate title given the Government's decisions on the committee stage of this bill.A further possible title that would have considerable merit would be the "Crimes Amendment Bill Allow the Loophole for the Next Hundred Years"; it would be an appropriate title.CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): Do not try my patience Dr Smith.Hon Dr NICK SMITH: Because that is indeed—well Madam Chairperson I've seen you give speeches in this House on titles that say exactly those things about the content of the title of a bill. The reality of this bill is it's going to allow the legal anachronistic loophole to survive on our law books for more than a hundred years for buildings that have been built this month. And as such we think that that should be recognised in the title of this bill.We could also refer to the bill as the "Crimes Amendment Bill Putting Law Ahead of Justice" because what this bill does is take such a narrow view of the law a very lawyer-ish view of the law rather than a common-sense view of the law that we think New Zealanders would want.A possible other title that this bill could have would be the "Crimes Amendment Allowing Another Repeat of the CTV Injustice" because in practice that is what—Kieran McAnulty: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. I looked at Speakers' rulings 114/6 which clearly state that an amendment to the title of the bill must be a serious or objective description of the bill rather than an attempt to criticise its contents and I suggest that's exactly what that member is doing.CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): Thank you. I thank the member for that. I am trying to get their point across to the Hon Dr Nick Smith.Hon Dr NICK SMITH: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. I actually checked the Hansard and there are many many speeches that have been given including by the member in the Chair. CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): That may be so Dr Smith. However you cannot bring me into the—Hon Dr NICK SMITH: All I simply ask—CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): Dr Smith my patience is absolutely exhausted at this point. If you challenge me one more time I will be asking you to leave the Chamber. Now Dr Smith I'm on my feet and you will not get to your feet. Is that clear—do I make myself clear Dr Smith. Hon Dr NICK SMITH: Madam Chair it's sometimes unclear as to when you're sitting down. CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): Look I'm absolutely tempted to have you leave the Chamber Dr Smith because you have tried my patience. You have been trivial in terms of the matters and you've been trivialising my rulings. Hon Dr NICK SMITH: Madam Chair I meant you no disrespect—CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): I'm not asking you a question—Hon Dr NICK SMITH: Madam Chair I mean you no disrespect. When I attempted to stand up—CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): You certainly are. Dr Smith—Hon Dr NICK SMITH: When I stood up—CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): Dr Smith that is enough. You can leave the Chamber—I've had enough. Dr Smith—Hon Dr Nick Smith: I meant you no disrespect. I thought you were sitting down and that's why I attempted to stand up. CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): You continue to backchat Dr Smith."