McKelvie Ian; Rurawhe AdrianIAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei): Thank you Mr Speaker. Very hard to argue against a lot of what's been said in the course of the discussion on this bill tonight as we basically across the House support the intent of it. But I do want to go back to a couple of issues that have been raised and it relates back to something the Minister for Infrastructure said earlier and the fact that I have had some cynicism about how this might operate. That's been confirmed for me in the last few minutes because this is all about the wellbeing of New Zealanders and it's going to make things better for everybody and then in the next breath we say that this thing is basically an advisory committee and the advice doesn't need to be taken. There'll be some challenges around that and that's really the reason for I guess my cynicism around whether it will actually work or not when it's put to the test because a lot of work will go into achieving what we achieve with this. The previous speaker Gareth Hughes spoke about the rural broadband stuff. Well that of course didn't help a lot of us watch the All Blacks on Saturday night. I don't know whether you could blame the rural broadband or not but certainly there was no reception where I live which isn't very far from the main road. Of course rugby will be the loser of that and no one else because as we always used to say in the car business if you let a person go down to the next door car sales yard they'll buy one off them and they'll never come back and it's just like the rugby: if you can't watch the rugby and you watch the soccer then you'll go to the soccer and that's it. But that's the sort of importance of this New Zealand Infrastructure Commission/Te Waihanga Bill and the opportunity that it has in my view to put a steadier on what goes on in New Zealand and I think we do need that. Interestingly I've been involved in local government for a bit of my life and the Local Government Act 2002 went a long way towards trying to steady up the change that happened in local government. It didn't entirely achieve it but it did stabilise what went on and change for the sake of change often costs a lot of money. That's one of the designs this bill has set out to I guess not eliminate so much as to moderate because you do need to have in a democracy the opportunity for new Governments to come along and change the way they want to do things. But you don't want to be disruptive and I've had the opportunity in the last few weeks to drive around most of New Zealand as you do when you live in the Rangitīkei—you can't go any other way. But when you drive through Levin you strike two sets of traffic lights at the end of what will be a pretty useful piece of infrastructure despite the criticism of the roads of national significance. Then this week I happened to have to drive from Auckland to the middle of Northland and you can't fly into that part of the world that easily either. Again that's an infrastructure challenge. But I got to I think it was a place called Warkworth and I struck three sets of traffic lights on— Dr Duncan Webb: I've heard of that. IAN McKELVIE: Oh have you heard of it? It's somewhere up there. Three sets of traffic lights on the main road and there will be a brand new road of national significance completed there in a year or two but I don't know whether it's going to quite dodge the traffic lights. Anyway I think the importance of this bill can't be overlooked and I do think it is an opportunity provided the advice from this Infrastructure Commission is treated by those elected to govern New Zealand with the respect that it probably should deserve and I think as the Minister said the people appointed to it are extremely capable. So I hope it stabilises change and gives some certainty to all of those who provide infrastructure in New Zealand whether it's broadband whether it's defence force issues or whether it's roads or rail for that matter. I hope that it stabilises and gets us set on a path where there's a pathway that contractors and people who are involved in those industries have a rational way forward. So I'll say no more. But I think it is a good bill and I look forward to it having its desired effect in due course despite my cynicism. Thank you. ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe): This is a split call. I call Tamati Coffey—five minutes.