van de Molen TimTIM VAN DE MOLEN (National—Waikato): Thank you Madam Chair. Look I'd like to pick up from where Ms Kuriger just left off actually on the ryegrass. Now this is an area that's been getting increasing profile recently and it is an important area. When we look at the obligations in terms of what we're trying to achieve around reducing emissions profiles from agriculture this is a potentially viable and exciting solution for that. And yet we're seeing some constraints around the ability to utilise that to do field trials here in New Zealand and to then roll that out because of the legislation we have as a result of this grass being developed through gene-editing techniques. So I certainly do think that is a conversation that we need to have as a country and that we should be having if we're looking at what are the best solutions across the board to meet these obligations.Now I also want to touch on biosecurity because the Mycoplasma bovis in particular has rightly dominated a number of contributions to this topic because it has been such a massive area for the dairy sector but also the sheep and beef sector over the last 18 months or so now. I am encouraged by the progress that has been made. There are a few concerns I have and they came up through the annual review process as well and part of that was around the response on the ground. I commend the Minister in the chair Damien O'Connor for the work he has done in this because it is a challenging situation that he found himself in—Kieran McAnulty: Why was that?TIM VAN DE MOLEN: —and it needed a strong approach to make sure that we could work together on this—and we took the politics out of it actually Mr McAnulty because it was that serious and that important for the industry. I appreciate that might not be something you can get your head round but certainly on this side we could.And so for us the challenges though came with actually playing that out on the ground and how the communication happened between AsureQuality in the field and the farmers. Those subcontractors—there were a number of concerns raised around that from a communication perspective and the actual understanding of it the ag-sector. And I know that presents a challenge in terms of how do you maintain a ready force to respond to an incursion like Mycoplasma bovis. But that is something that I would like to see some work put into trying to create a better solution down the track.Also on biosecurity we heard a little bit earlier from Nathan Guy and also the Minister in the chair in response around the detector dogs at Auckland Airport. Biosecurity for me is such an important area that we need to make sure we continue to invest more in this space because the $46 billion contribution from the primary industries relies so much on our ability to maintain that ring-fencing around New Zealand in terms of the potential incursions that might come. The detector dogs on that green lane at Auckland Airport are a big part of that. The former Minister Nathan Guy mentioned that between 2 and 5 a.m. they haven't been there but now the commitment has been made to actually close down that green lane and ensure that people go in through more detailed scanning if the dogs are not available. But actually having recently come back from a parliamentary delegation to Canada—20 past 5 in the morning we came through there were no detector dogs and we were still going down the green lane at that time. I'll just point that out. We haven't got the solution yet and I do really want to impress upon the Minister the importance of that because that is something that we just cannot let slip.We've seen already over the last few months now a few fruit fly incursions as well up in Auckland and I would also like to reiterate the Minister's comments there in terms of how the local communities responded to that. I was really encouraged to see that the Northcote community in particular and the Ōtara community were responding well to the requirements placed on them to help minimise the potential impact of this biosecurity incursion. That is a big one for us and we need to make sure that we're all continually pulling together to do our best on behalf of the primary industries.Now the other one I just want to touch on briefly is the trees the half-billion-extra trees that the Government wants to plant—and it's only half a billion because we know that the other half billion are actually planted already by the industry as part of the natural replacement cycle.Mark Patterson: What are you scaremongering about?TIM VAN DE MOLEN: And what we heard from Mr Patterson who's chipping in now in his contribution a little earlier was actually quite naive in that he suggested that because the grants were only for areas of up to 300 hectares that was not going to be an issue and that we were not seeing significant areas of forestation of former sheep and beef farms. Well I'd suggest to Mr Patterson that perhaps he needs to go and talk to some rural communities and get outside of his speaking notes to understand that this is having an impact and that actually in the Wairoa area right now there's already been 8000 hectares of sheep and beef land purchased for forestry issues and that's an area we need to address.