4. Question No. 4—EnergyANDY FOSTER (NZ First) to the Associate Minister for EnergyQuestion No. 4—Energy4. ANDY FOSTER (NZ First) to the Associate Minister for Energy: What actions if any has he taken to establish a fuel security plan?Hon SHANE JONES (Associate Minister for Energy): Apologies Mr Speaker there's a frog in my throat. The coalition agreement between New Zealand First and the National Party commits to the establishment of a fuel security plan to safeguard transport logistics and emergency services from any domestic or international disruption. The Government is moving quickly to establish such a plan with a study into NZ fuel requirements planned to begin this later including an investigation into the reestablishment of the Marsden Point refinery shamefully closed down.Andy Foster: What fuels does the Minister see are critical for our fuel security in the coming decades?Hon SHANE JONES: We share a desire that Kiwis should be free of reliance on fossil fuels in the near future. That stuff however belongs in an Enid Blyton storybook. New Zealand will continue to need gas to keep our economy functioning. Sadly from time to time Indonesian coal will be relied upon to keep the lights on. This is a stark reminder to the people who sit under a rock not appreciating the genuine complexity of energy resilience.Andy Foster: What recent causes of fuel insecurity in New Zealand is the Minister aware of?Hon SHANE JONES: I am aware that despite the willingness of the executive and directors of the Marsden Point refinery to seek an accommodation with the last Government the last Government watched the demise and death of the Marsden Point oil refinery—an awful blow to Northland and a wicked act undermining the resilience of New Zealand. But not only has it put fuel security at risk it has endangered cardon dioxide supplies for beer and food. It was also we should remember the majority producer of jet fuel. In fact all shipping fuel and more than half of our diesel came a lot more confidently and reliably to New Zealand as a consequence of that refinery. And the people who closed it down thought that they were doing the right thing via climate change—they have worsened the resilience of our nation.Andy Foster: As a result of that closure what actions is the Minister taking to review the opportunities that there are around Marsden Point? Hon SHANE JONES: As I have said we are investigating the reestablishment of Marsden Point refinery. Sadly we are left to gather the—Scott Willis: Sadly we are left with you!Hon SHANE JONES: —results of an awful decision made over the last two years and it's driven—sir—by a mixture of wokeism a mixture of naivety and an unwillingness to accept that without gas without fuel the nation will collapse. With New Zealand First in charge of such an initiative our resilience will prosper.Rt Hon Winston Peters: Could I ask the Minister—SPEAKER: Yeah hang on. No I haven't called you yet. Just before we go on I suppose—I was going to use the word poetic" but it's not really poetic; it's interesting and colourful but not particularly helpful.Rt Hon Winston Peters: Point of order Mr Speaker. There are Parliaments that actually admire the exquisite use of the English language—we did formerly until a recent time. So might I just say that is important to us.SPEAKER: Can I just say could you speak into your microphone because I couldn't hear you.Rt Hon Winston Peters: I'll say it loudly. There was a time when Parliaments and ours was one of them would admire the exquisite use of the English language. If some members of Parliament can't understand that then that's their problem. That's my point.SPEAKER: Well hang on. Speaking to the point of order—Rawiri Waititi: Hear hear!SPEAKER: —my point simply was—Rawiri Waititi: I get knocked down.SPEAKER: My point simply was that—do you want to hear or not? My point simply was that the Standing Orders which you didn't refer to do require that Ministers answer within a number of criteria that are laid down in the Standing Orders. Some of that language stepped well outside that and I'm simply pointing that out.Rt Hon Winston Peters: How long without pipeline supply and in the event of a tanker disruption would this country be in terms of days before we reached an absolute and total crisis?Hon SHANE JONES: I'm advised it is between 17 and 21 days. The situation is grossly worsened by the closure of our refinery reflective of the shallow thinking behind that decision maker."