SpeechJAMI-LEE ROSS (Botany): Thank you Madam Chair. I've tabled an amendment to the Minister's Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 511 that I hope he may be willing to answer some questions on. Then I hope I may be able to speak to it further. I'd like to ask the Minister of Police for the rationale behind why quite invasive impacts on people's personal medical details which could potentially go back many many years are included in this legislation. I've proposed in a tabled amendment that there be some deletions within his SOP. They're namely around the requirements for an applicant to provide the name of their doctor and their contact details to police when making an application and also the requirement for police to notify an applicant's medical professional should they be ones that get a firearms licence. Those are contained within clauses 34 35 and 36. Later in the SOP in clause 83 there's a requirement for a medical practitioner if they have concerns about a licence holder to inform police around those concerns. There's also no requirement in there for the medical practitioner to inform the actual licence holder themselves that the medical practitioner has made such a notification to police.This on the surface I say to the Minister feels like an intense invasion into the private medical details of individuals. It also would act as a disincentive for people—and we know mostly men that are licence holders who may be more likely than others to withhold their background when it comes to their medical information. It would act as a disincentive for people to seek help in the system. And I say to the Minister: these are intrusive powers. These are powers that go far and beyond what any person would normally want to have to offer. And these powers could go back many many years. Imagine a situation where a 50-year-old man decides he wants to get into shooting because it's a passion he's wanted to pursue and was able to later in his life. Imagine the situation where that individual through their teens or in their twenties suffered from depression or suffered from some difficult circumstances in their life. That background could be held against them in the future when they seek a firearms licence. And I imagine an answer might come back which suggests Well look there'll be limitations on how far it can go back." and "Well the police will be reasonable in this." But within the requirements for the police commissioner to issue some guidance notes and advise health practitioners what they can actually notify the police on there's very broad powers for the commissioner to put in pretty much anything he wants around what a health practitioner should provide to police by way of a notification.Disincentivising people—licence holders—disincentivising men who we know don't inform or seek help to get assistance when they need it. Disincentivising licence holders to be upfront with their doctors about what they might be going through in their life I would suggest is actually overall detrimental to the public health and detrimental to the mental health and mental wellbeing of licence holders in general. Yes it's important that we consider these matters but these types of intrusive powers which enable police to delve into the medical records of individuals seeking a licence and the ability for a health practitioner to behind the back of a licence holder inform police about what a person might be going through I suggest to the Minister are powers that shouldn't be there and go far and above what is reasonable.If we're to consider these types of issues we have to consider the context of existing powers and other pieces of legislation. I mean the Civil Aviation Act at the moment requires similar requirements there around people who are seeking a pilot's licence or people who do have a pilot's licence. I know as someone who does hold a commercial pilot's licence and knows many people in the aviation sector that those types of requirements act as a disincentive to those pilots to seek assistance and they withhold things from their doctors. Do we really want all the licence holders out there to be withholding personal struggles or personal difficulties that they're going through because of legislation like this? I wonder if the Minister has an answer to that particular question."