Cheung Carlos; Bidois DanDr CARLOS CHEUNG (National—Mt Roskill): Thank you Madam Chair. Firstly I need to thank you and acknowledge all the members who carried that bill before including the Hon Melissa Lee and now we've got Dan Bidois carrying the bill as well. I think it's a very great bill but I've also got a question. I would like the member to explain to me a little bit especially on new section 36WA. Just now the member has mentioned some of the customs excluded in this bill but from my personal experience when I've received some gift cards I've used my own money to buy the gift card or if I actually use my loyalty programme or bonus points to append the card or even if I just buy for a charitable purpose I don't see my gift card as different so how can I actually tell—for example if it's six months later on I probably can't tell where I got my gift card from so how can I know whether my gift card is included in this legislation? Do you think that will create some kind of confusion for people as well? Because when we get the card we probably don't know where it's from or can't remember where it's from again. So it will be great if you can actually give a little bit of explanation as to why the select committee decided to exclude all these gift cards with different resources. So yeah I'll be grateful for some clarification. Thank you.DAN BIDOIS (National—Northcote): Thank you very much to the member for the question. So with this bill we heard from a number of submitters in the select committee and look the vast majority of gift cards in New Zealand are actually used in a rapid period—so within really a 6 to 12 month period—but there are of course a range of New Zealanders that have unexpired gift cards like the member had mentioned before. So actually when you look at the proportion of gift cards that this bill covers or it aims to cover it's actually quite a small amount. The next question that the member may wish to ask from that is around why we excluded things or why we included things in in the definition of what a gift card is. A part of it is the practicality of this bill and not wanting to over-engineer it or over-police or over-regulate. A part of it is also actually to not penalise people that haven't actually purchased a gift card. The intent of the bill is essentially that for those that purchase a gift card it is very clear to them the period in which they can use it. If they on-sell it or if they then go and auction that same card for a charitable purpose or if they keep it in their drawer and use it for some other type of activity or gift it along to somebody for free that is something the bill is not really intended to cover. So that really is in a sense why the bill is quite narrow in its definition of what a gift card is. The select committee dealt with this and the advisers in the select committee were very clear that the definition of what a gift card is needs to be very very clear. That's why there is a section in there and particular in the commentary as well around the definition of a gift card because otherwise you'll have instances where businesses may try to actually skirt the law to get around what a gift card is so that they don't need an expiry. So hopefully that addresses the member's question around the definition of a gift card.