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Donnelly Brian: Motions — Michael Campbell—2005 US Open 
Donnelly Brian: Motions — Michael Campbell—2005 US Open 
[Volume:627;Page:21738] 
Hon BRIAN DONNELLY (NZ First) 
: 
 It is fitting that Parliament collectively pays tribute to Michael Campbell for his monumental achievement in winning the US Open and it is an honour to be able to speak on behalf of New Zealand First to add our accolades. All New Zealanders are rightfully proud of Michael Campbell’s victory but even more so we can be proud of the man behind the victory. His courage in overcoming disappointments of the past injury and loss of form his perseverance and grit his humility in victory and his generosity of spirit have all ensured that Michael Campbell has forged a place in our sporting folklore. Even at the crowning moment of his career yesterday he did not forget his fellow Kiwis claiming his victory for all New Zealanders and claiming that if he could achieve something like this other New Zealanders could do the same. I also note that within the top two teams striving for victory—that of Michael Campbell and that of Tiger Woods—there were in fact three New Zealanders and New Zealand First wishes also to acknowledge Michael Waite’s contribution to Michael Campbell’s great success.
Vote: Tariff (New Zealand - Thailand Closer Economic Partnership) Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Tariff (New Zealand - Thailand Closer Economic Partnership) Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:21397] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand Labour 51; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9. 
Motion agreed to.
Vote: Parental Leave and Employment Protection Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Parental Leave and Employment Protection Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:16488] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 2 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 70 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; Maori Party 1. 
Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Officer Presiding: Election of Speaker 
Officer Presiding: Election of Speaker 
[Volume:623;Page:18946] 
Madam SPEAKER-ELECT 
: Honourable members of the House of Representatives may I thank you very sincerely for the honour and the privilege of electing me as Speaker. As I am sure most of you are aware the role of Speaker can be traced back to 1258 in what was then called the “Mad Parliament” from which emerged a plan of reform designed to ensure that Parliament controlled the executive power of the King. Since that time of course Parliament has evolved into the democratic institution that we have today and with it emerged the role of Speaker. Originally of course the Speaker was the person who communicated the views of the Parliament to the King and on occasions lost his head for doing so. Today however the Speaker ensures all those represented within Parliament are heard and dealt with fairly and impartially according to the rules agreed to by the members. I undertake to exercise the functions and powers of the office in a fair and an impartial way. 
 Parliament is the heart of our democracy. The health and well-being of our democracy is measured in many ways but one of the most visible is whether the business of Parliament is conducted in an orderly manner. It is the role of the Speaker to ensure that balance is achieved between robust debate and getting the business of Parliament done. I undertake to apply the rules fairly and justly to achieve that balance. I know I follow in the footsteps of many distinguished Speakers. They have bequeathed me much wisdom in the  
Speakers’ Rulings 
 amongst which I have found two cards—one yellow one red—and as a keen follower of competitive sport I know their function. As one who has a growing sympathy and respect for the role of referee I will use them with judgment. 
As the Speaker-Elect I will now obey the instruction and go to the Governor-General at 4 p.m. and I hope some of you will accompany me there. Thank you.
Cullen Michael: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Cullen Michael: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:624;Page:19521] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Deputy Prime Minister) 
: 
 If the question is about the number of times the word “environment” appeared in the Prime Minister’s statement as that statement was published and given in the House I assume that all 120 members of the House would actually be capable of answering the question. It would only require one to go through the speech and add up the number of times.
Jones Dail: Voting — Correction 
Jones Dail: Voting — Correction 
[Volume:610;Page:7979] 
DAIL JONES (Junior Whip—NZ First) 
: 
 The New Zealand First vote on Mr Dunne’s amendment was incorrectly put by myself. There should have been 13 in favour of Mr Dunne’s amendment. I seek the leave of the House to alter the New Zealand First vote to 13 in favour of Mr Dunne’s proposal.
Jones Dail: Dog Control Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Jones Dail: Dog Control Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:613;Page:9882] 
DAIL JONES (Junior Whip—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. We are voting for the Minister’s amendments now are we not? 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Yes the Minister’s typescript amendments.
Simich Clem: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Simich Clem: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8517] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: The amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 109 in the name of the Hon Georgina Te Heuheu to schedule 1B is ruled out of order as it is inconsistent with an earlier amendment that was defeated in Part 2. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 132 in the name of Hon George Hawkins to the schedules be agreed to.
Gallagher Martin: Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Gallagher Martin: Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:607;Page:4595] 
MARTIN GALLAGHER (NZ Labour—Hamilton West) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Turner Judy: Gisborne District Council (Alfred Cox Park)  Validation Bill — First Reading 
Turner Judy: Gisborne District Council (Alfred Cox Park)  Validation Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:627;Page:22072] 
JUDY TURNER (Deputy Leader—United Future) 
: 
 I seek leave first of all as a candidate in that electorate and someone with an interest in Gisborne to have a chance to represent United Future on this bill. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: The member is perfectly entitled to do that and United Future has not had a call on this bill.
Peters Winston: Points of Order — Question No. 4 to Minister—Minister Answering  
Peters Winston: Points of Order — Question No. 4 to Minister—Minister Answering  
[Volume:619;Page:14718] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Over the weekend some of us will know there was a reshuffle in the National Party’s line-up. 
Opposition Member 
: That’s not a point of order! 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: It would be a point of order if that member would keep quiet and wait for me to state my point of order. It is a very very sound point of order. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: All members are entitled to raise points of order but I stress that they must be points of order. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: Thank you Mr Speaker. I just wanted to set the scene. The reality is that every party in this Parliament is entitled to certain provisions such as one phone for the leader and one for that party’s whip. Right now we have phones dotted up and down here and I do not know what is going on or whether special provisions have been made for a party that cannot make up its mind who is doing what where and when. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The member knows that his point of order is only barely there. The phone was put in for the whip and his whip is entitled to have one—the member’s own whip has one.
Rich Katherine: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Rich Katherine: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:613;Page:9923] 
KATHERINE RICH (National) 
: 
 I seek leave of the House to hold over my question until the Associate Minister for Social Development and Employment (CYF) is available to answer questions. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to hold over the question. Is there any objection? There is. 
Katherine Rich 
: It’s funny she is not here. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The member knows that is out of order. She will stand withdraw and apologise. 
Katherine Rich 
: I withdraw and apologise.
Mark Ron: General Debate 
Mark Ron: General Debate 
[Volume:620;Page:15684] 
RON MARK (NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I draw your attention to the relevant Standing Order that deals with MPs who stand in this House and say things that by their very record in  
Hansard 
—and to prove that I am holding in my hand a file that contains every word of the  
Hansard  
of— 
Clayton Cosgrove 
: What’s your point of order? 
RON MARK 
: Are you going to throw the member out for speaking during a point of order Mr Speaker? 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: This is the last warning for speaking during a point of order. 
RON MARK 
: These extracts from  
Hansard 
 contain every word that Mr Peters and I have said in this House on the Edwards/Shaw issue. Mr Cosgrove has been allowed to get away with saying that we have actively sought for the Minister of Police to intervene directly. I listened to it on the radio. There has not ever been a call for that. That pretender who is aiming to take George Hawkins’ job by flattery today and bidding to knife him in the back tomorrow will not get away with that sort of nonsense in this House. He will be held to account in the electorate for the little lies he tells. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Mr Mark will withdraw that reference to lies. 
RON MARK 
: I withdraw and apologise. Point of order— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: No I am going— 
RON MARK 
: This is a separate point of order.
Vote: Land Transport Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Land Transport Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:21368] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to 
. 
Ayes 49 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 9. 
Noes 70 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 375 in the name of the Hon Pete Hodgson to Part 2 and the following amendments in his name to clause 85 be agreed to: 
to omit from subclause (3) the words “Sections 4(a) to (d) 5(6)(a) 7 8(3) and (4) 9 12 to 14 18 to 23 24(2)(a) to (c) 26(3) 29 32 to 39” and substitute the words “Sections 4 to 46”; and 
to omit subclause (4).
Vote: New Organisms and Other Matters Bill — In Committee 
Vote: New Organisms and Other Matters Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:612;Page:9077] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 92 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 25; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8. 
Noes 21 
New Zealand First 13; Green Party 8. 
Motion agreed to. 
Bill reported with amendment.
Vote: Parental Leave and Employment Protection Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Parental Leave and Employment Protection Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:16496] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 70 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 50 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; Maori Party 1; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Motion agreed to.
Hartley Ann: Maori Television Service (Te Aratuku Whakaata Irirangi Maori) Bill — Third Reading 
Hartley Ann: Maori Television Service (Te Aratuku Whakaata Irirangi Maori) Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:608;Page:5290] 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I tell the member that he contributes very well and I certainly respect what he says. It was very clear; there was absolute silence. I looked around. I was surprised and I realised that I had to put the question. It is as simple as that. We now have to put the vote.
Jones Dail: Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Jones Dail: Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 14 December 2004. Volume:622;Page:17795. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
DAIL JONES (NZ First) 
: 
 It is a great pleasure to speak on this bill reminding me once again that even the sins of 1983 and 1984 have come back to haunt me. That is when these errors commenced when I was a member of Parliament in 1983 and 1984. It is totally unfair to blame anyone including myself of course for those defaults. The member at the time the former Speaker Sir Richard Harrison was a staunch supporter of the then Alcoholic Liquor Advisory Council from day one and after the royal commission from 1976 onwards and he would find a great deal of amusement in knowing that this problem had occurred. 
As I understand it in the discussions I have had the problem arose because the officials asked parliamentary counsel to draft an amendment to the procedure. Parliamentary counsel said: “Hang on a minute. The procedure you want us to amend hasn’t yet been approved by Parliament.” and someone discovered they had been unwittingly using that procedure since about 1983. So things finally do get caught up with in this place even if it does take about 21 years to work it all out. But this is New Zealand. New Zealand First is not going to make a song and dance of this issue. It is unfortunate and that is what this bill is all about. 
May I say that I was delighted to speak with the Distilled Spirits Association representative who makes calls on us regularly and keeps us up to date with the industry and makes sure that members of Parliament know what is going on. The question raised by the Alcohol Advisory Council is of great concern and I do hope the Minister of Finance who is in charge of this bill will do something to remedy the problem raised. He gives me a nod and perhaps in due course that will be remedied as well. New Zealand First supports this bill. It does not intend to filibuster. It is a simple bill which should go through promptly.
Catchpole Brent: Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — In Committee 
Catchpole Brent: Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8723] 
BRENT CATCHPOLE (NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I would just like to bring to your notice that there is some feedback in the House and it is getting a little bit louder and louder. While my colleague was speaking there was a buzzing sound and a whistling sound starting to come through. I just bring that to your notice. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: I thank the member for raising that matter.
Brown Peter: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Recommittal In Committee Third Reading Procedure 
Brown Peter: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Recommittal In Committee Third Reading Procedure 
[Volume:621;Page:16854] 
PETER BROWN (Senior Whip—NZ First) 
: 
 As far as New Zealand is concerned this is ground-breaking legislation—at least that is the view of New Zealand First. I therefore seek the leave of this house to request that the parties that split their vote table the split—in other words who voted for and who voted against—so that this can be recorded in  
Hansard 
 and so that the view of the public can be respected in that a check can be made of the voting if they so wish. I seek leave for that request to be put to the party whips.
Connell Brian: Electricity and Gas Industries Bill — In Committee 
Connell Brian: Electricity and Gas Industries Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:15996] 
BRIAN CONNELL (National—Rakaia) 
: 
 No I have not. I was only doing that to assist the Chair on the basis that you may have made a mistake and really wanted to call Mr Sowry. I am not yielding the call.
Vote: Fiordland (Te Moana o Atawhenua) Marine  Management Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Fiordland (Te Moana o Atawhenua) Marine  Management Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:625;Page:19888] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 10 
Green Party 9; Maori Party 1. 
Noes 108 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to and Part 3 agreed to.
Vote: Telecommunications (Interception Capability) Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Telecommunications (Interception Capability) Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:616;Page:12285] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 110 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand National 26; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Progressive 2; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 9 
Green Party 9. 
Amendments agreed to.
Vote: Parole (Extended Supervision) and Sentencing Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Parole (Extended Supervision) and Sentencing Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:618;Page:14170] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 97 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Progressive 2; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 22 
New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9. 
Amendment agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 223 in the name of the Hon Phil Goff to clause 12A be agreed to.
Worth Richard: Resource Management and Electricity Legislation Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Worth Richard: Resource Management and Electricity Legislation Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:627;Page:22319] 
Dr RICHARD WORTH (National—Epsom) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. An interesting issue arises in connection with Part 2 that I would like to briefly explain to you. The Resource Management and Electricity Legislation Amendment Bill makes changes to two pieces of legislation. The first is the Resource Management Act and the second is the Electricity Act. Standing Order 259(1) makes it quite clear: “Except as permitted by Standing Orders a bill must relate to one subject area only.” 
We know and I am sure you know Mr Chairman how broad the scope and subject of the Resource Management Act is. When one looks at these provisions under the Electricity Act and what they do one sees that they in no sense relate to the subject matters of the Resource Management Act. When one looks at the principal Act the Electricity Act 1992 and its purpose one sees it is concerned with the regulation and supply of electricity with consolidating and amending the law relating to the regulation and control of electrical workers and with the repeal of the Electric Linemen Act the Electricity Act 1968 and the Electrical Registration Act. When one looks at the particular changes in this bill proposing changes to the Electricity Act one sees that they all centre on the powers and duties of electricity operators and other owners of electrical works. You will see Mr Chairman that they are concerned with the construction or maintenance of works on roads and with the rights of entry in respect of level crossings. That is way way removed from the subject area of resource management. 
Although it is true under Standing Order 259(2) that “A bill may make consequential amendments to a number of Acts…”—and that is an obvious point to acknowledge—a bill must relate to one subject area only. When one looks at Standing Orders 261 and 262 one sees that none of the exceptions referred to apply. I am asking you Mr Chairman to take a hard look at what seems to be a clear breach of the Standing Orders.
Brownlee Gerry: Motions — Jewish Graves and Chapel Wellington—Vandalism 
Brownlee Gerry: Motions — Jewish Graves and Chapel Wellington—Vandalism 
[Volume:619;Page:14715] 
GERRY BROWNLEE (Deputy Leader—National) 
: 
 The National Party strongly endorses the sentiments expressed in the motion before the House today. We find totally unacceptable the destructive acts on the chapel and the 92 graves in the Jewish Orthodox section of the Makara Cemetery last week. We note that that attack was preceded by the smashing of 16 historic Jewish headstones at the Bolton Street cemetery in Wellington Central 3 weeks ago. These are disturbing acts and they should not become a trend. The National Party absolutely condemns anti-Semitism and deplores in the strongest terms these idiotic acts of hate directed at one section of our community. Such acts of hate have no place in New Zealand. They are foreign to us and we must do all in our power to ensure that they never take hold. We take to heart the point made by the Acting Prime Minister when he says it is pointless and counterproductive to look for blame. There can be nobody at fault in this case other than those—surely cowards criminals and racists—who perpetrated these acts. Whatever the reason behind them as I say there can be no justification for them. 
Cemeteries are sacred places for all peoples and as such require respect and sensitivity. These cowards have caused grief to the Jewish community and shocked all right-thinking New Zealanders and must be treated with contempt. I am sure that all New Zealanders regardless of their ethnicity culture or religion will join with this Parliament at this time in expressing our support for the Jewish community. The misguided attitudes that lead to such acts of hate have no part in the tolerant society we all cherish so much. Every one of us has a duty to help stamp out such attitudes. These cowards have also badly damaged New Zealand’s reputation overseas. The way of a peaceful and just society is the way of tolerance and we must always strive to ensure that those who would seek to disrupt are dealt with swiftly and surely.
Benson-Pope David: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee 
Benson-Pope David: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee 
[Volume:619;Page:15188] 
Hon DAVID BENSON-POPE (Minister of Fisheries) 
: 
 I am delighted to rise in order to answer the three questions that Mr Ardern posed. In the first case in terms of the select committee he asked how we got to where we are. I remind Mr Ardern that the Primary Production Committee was chaired by a National Party member—one of his colleagues—as he will be aware and that the Government does not have a majority on that committee. If Mr Ardern had been a member of that select committee he would know how the Labour members voted. So it is no surprise that the committee did not support the direction of the bill. 
In answer to Mr Ardern’s second question the reason for the extensive Supplementary Order Paper was nothing other than to meet the concerns expressed by the select committee in order to reach appropriate compromises to make progress on the issue—for which the bleating member feigns support. 
In terms of mussel introduction to the quota management system the member will be aware of the progress that has been made towards the removal of the moratorium on aquaculture development. With that happening at the end of the year most rational people agree that it is entirely essential that there is a good management regime in place for the most important source of spat. 
Shane Ardern 
: How are you going to do it? 
Hon DAVID BENSON-POPE 
: I would encourage Mr Ardern to actually listen to the arguments so he can inform himself and not continue to embarrass himself and his party with his ignorance.
Mackey Moana: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Mackey Moana: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:624;Page:18970] 
11.  
MOANA MACKEY (Labour) 
 to the  
Minister of Women's Affairs 
: What has the Government done to improve choice and opportunities for women? 
Hon RUTH DYSON (Minister of Women's Affairs) 
: 
 There is a long list of Labour-Progressive Government - introduced initiatives that create more choice and opportunities for women at home and in paid work. They include paid parental leave which increases to 14 weeks this year; increased childcare subsidies; a significant boost to income support through the Working for Families package; and a programme to produce pay and employment equity in the public sector. 
Moana Mackey 
: Does the Minister have any comparable measures to assess the progress this Government is making in implementing policies to support women? 
Hon RUTH DYSON 
: Unfortunately only one of the policy initiatives I referred to earlier even existed in the 1990s so we have made enormous progress since then. In fact in 1990 the incoming National Government as its first act repealed pay and employment equity legislation. 
Judith Collins 
: Does the Minister agree with a Ministry of Women’s Affairs paper suggesting that New Zealand’s immigration policy should be more open to polygamous marriages; and why should any New Zealand working mum support the existence of a ministry so devoid of common sense? 
Hon RUTH DYSON 
: No. 
Tariana Turia 
: Is it correct that the Ministry of Women’s Affairs is working with the State Services Commission to improve choice and opportunities for women by developing powhiri guidelines to redefine tikanga and the role of women? 
Hon RUTH DYSON 
: Not to the best of my knowledge. 
Judith Collins 
: I seek leave to table a document entitled  
Work and Family Balance: A Policy Perspective 
 dated 25 March 2002 that was produced by the Ministry of Women’s Affairs. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Jones Dail: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Stockholm Convention) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Jones Dail: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Stockholm Convention) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:606;Page:3661] 
DAIL JONES (NZ First) 
: 
 As I read this bill look at the time it has spent on the Order Paper and see just what it will achieve I think we have to be concerned about the way the Government handles its legislative programme. This bill has been on the Order Paper since 21 May 2002 as was the previous bill. We are not taking terribly long in the first reading to move it on to the select committee and one wonders why 20 or 30 minutes were not allocated 10 months ago to move this bill along. If this bill is important it should have been moved on; if it is not important why are we bothering with it? The Government really does not seem to know what it is doing when it comes to legislation before this House.  
I look at some of the aspects set out in the explanatory note. They state that there are “no major disadvantages to the Stockholm convention entering into force for New Zealand.” We read statements such as: “It has been unlawful to use POP pesticides for agricultural or horticultural purposes since the Pesticides Board finally deregistered such uses in 1989.” I speak mainly as a lawyer not a farmer but all I can say is that if these things are illegal now why do we need this bill to do something that is already the case? What is the point of this legislation? Is this Government so short of legislation that we now have to spend time some 10 months later as a fill-in job because the Government has nothing better for this House to do?  
I wonder what the costs will be. The explanatory note states: “No additional costs will be imposed as a consequence of the proposed legislative amendment.” But then it states: “Economic costs to the public sector for controls on import use and export have been estimated as follows: Ministry for the Environment NZ$0.024 million…Secretariat NZ$0.018 million…”. We cannot get away without having some bureaucracy being created by this Government but the note further states: “Costs to the economy of measures aimed at import use and export controls are expected to be $0 based on the current lack of use and trade.” So we are passing legislation for something that seems to be illegal. “Use and trade” are currently lacking but we will spend the House’s time on it and send it to the select committee. If it is that simple a measure why has it taken so long for this Government to bring it before the House? We in New Zealand First do not intend to delay it any more. We look forward to the report of the select committee in due course.
Swain Paul: Electoral (Vacancies) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Swain Paul: Electoral (Vacancies) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:610;Page:7799] 
Hon PAUL SWAIN (Minister of Transport) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Hunt Jonathan: Speaker’s Rulings — Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2) 
Hunt Jonathan: Speaker’s Rulings — Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2) 
[Volume:607;Page:4420] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: A point of order was raised last week in relation to the Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2). As I ruled then Standing Order 100 does not apply to prevent the No. 2 bill from being read a first time even if there is a similar bill on the Order Paper although I note that the earlier bill has now been withdrawn. I do not intend to go over this issue again. 
The other point that was raised related to the fact that the No. 2 bill is drafted in two parts while the first bill is drafted in 18 parts. It was asserted and I think that this is fair comment that this form of drafting has been employed so as to cut down the length of debate in the Committee stage. 
The Standing Orders do contain some provisions as to how a bill is to be drafted—see for example Standing Orders 251 and 252 requiring title and commencement clauses. But in the main there is little direction as to the form in which a bill must be presented to the House and the Speaker cannot control how it is drafted—see Speaker’s ruling 77/1. I therefore do not see how I can intervene in a Government decision to draft a bill in two parts rather than 18 parts. I think that this form of drafting however is a matter that the chairpersons should take into account in Committee in deciding when to accept a closure motion. I would expect that a considerably longer debate would be permitted on a part with numerous subparts than would otherwise be the case. This is something that I will discuss with the chairpersons when the bill is scheduled for its Committee stage.
Vote: Electoral (Vacancies) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Electoral (Vacancies) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:610;Page:7780] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 56 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8. 
Noes 61 
Labour 50; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Abstentions 1 
Hunt. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Richard Prebble to clause 3 be agreed to: 
to omit the words “with the close of polling day for the first general election held after the date on which this Act comes into force” and substitute the words “1st day of January 2004”.
Simich Clem: Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Simich Clem: Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:607;Page:4605] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: The next call from ACT will be shared by two speakers. A 5-minute bell ends the contribution.
Vote: Legislation (Incorporation by Reference) Bill — First Reading 
Vote: Legislation (Incorporation by Reference) Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:624;Page:19379] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 56 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; Green Party 9. 
Noes 61 
New Zealand Labour 51; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Hughes Darren: Taxation (Annual Rates Venture Capital and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — Second Reading 
Hughes Darren: Taxation (Annual Rates Venture Capital and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:621;Page:16414] 
DARREN HUGHES (Labour—Otaki) 
: 
 I rise to take a very brief call to support the second reading of this bill. The thing I find interesting having listened to Dr Cullen the Minister of Revenue and Minister of Finance explain why the tax rates will be set at these levels and what the effects of this bill will be is the absolute crocodile tears from National Party members who will oppose this bill but have not told us what tax rates they would like to see put in place. Despite having all these calls in the debate they have not told us nor disclosed to the public what tax rates they would put in place. The public knows by the passage of this bill the tax rates that the Labour-Progressive Government will be setting for the coming year. They know what we will do with their money. We will provide strong public services for our communities and for our families which is very important in terms of securing fairness and opportunity for ordinary New Zealanders. All we know from the National Party is that it would slash taxes for its rich mates and cut public services for ordinary Kiwis.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:612;Page:9308] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I seek leave to table a press statement from Mr Robson which totally debunks what he has just attempted to table in the House. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House
Hunt Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Hunt Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:616;Page:11643] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: As the member has now stated that quite bluntly in this House his word will be accepted.
Cullen Michael: Business Statement 
Cullen Michael: Business Statement 
[Volume:624;Page:19679] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 No but of course if we could arrive at an arrangement about the length of question time for the remainder of this Parliament I am sure I could make that time available.
Vote: Holidays Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Vote: Holidays Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:614;Page:10543] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand Labour 52; Green Party 9. 
Noes 55 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 6; United Future 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 177 in the name of the Hon Margaret Wilson to Part 2 be agreed to.
Hartley Ann: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 4) — In Committee 
Hartley Ann: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 4) — In Committee 
[Volume:619;Page:14561] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: As I explained before the Minister’s amendment signals the Government’s intention to vote against this clause being agreed to. 
Clause 65 not agreed to.
[Volume:616;Page:12332] 
I am pleased to support this bill. It has had huge discussion during the urgency motion. I think the best thing we can do now is move it on and have it passed so that New Zealanders can continue to enjoy the high-quality music we have come to expect from the orchestra.
Sowry Roger: Maori Fisheries Bill — In Committee 
Sowry Roger: Maori Fisheries Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:15650] 
Hon ROGER SOWRY (National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. My understanding is that we have now completed the voting for clause 1 and that you are about to call a separate vote obviously for clause 2. The time for the House to rise has passed. Therefore it is not as though we are voting on a lot of amendments where we vote right the way through until the vote on the part is completed. What is happening is that we are entering into a separate vote and the correct procedure as I understand it is for the House to rise now and for that vote to be taken when the House next goes into Committee on this bill.
Prebble Richard: Government Superannuation Fund Amendment Bill (No 2) — In Committee 
Prebble Richard: Government Superannuation Fund Amendment Bill (No 2) — In Committee 
[Volume:606;Page:3847] 
Hon RICHARD PREBBLE (Leader—ACT NZ) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Before the Chair had actually left the chair Dr Lockwood Smith had raised a point of order. I know that you were striding back but I do not believe that the Chair had acknowledged that point of order. I happen to know what it was in relation to. It is a serious matter that reflects the honour of a member and it appears to me that the Chair should not leave the chair if a point of order is being raised at the time. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The Chair had announced that the time had come to leave the chair and she had left the chair. 
Progress reported.
Vote: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:608;Page:5419] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 66 
Noes 46 
Motion agreed to. 
Labour 52; Green Party 5; United Future 7; Progressive 2. 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 6. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Ken Shirley to clause 2(1) be agreed to: 
to omit the expression “2003” and substitute the expression “2006”.
Beyer Georgina: Resource Management (Waitaki Catchment) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Beyer Georgina: Resource Management (Waitaki Catchment) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:619;Page:15283] 
GEORGINA BEYER (Labour—Wairarapa) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Vote: Prisoners' and Victims' Claims Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Vote: Prisoners' and Victims' Claims Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:626;Page:20954] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Noes 54 
New Zealand National 26; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 6; United Future 8; Maori Party 1. 
Amendments agreed to.
Vote: Appropriation (2002/03 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — Second Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
Vote: Appropriation (2002/03 Supplementary Estimates) Bill — Second Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
[Volume:609;Page:6400] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Appropriation (2002/03 Supplementary Estimates) Bill and the Imprest Supply (First for 2003/04) Bill be now read a second time. 
Ayes 62 
Labour 52; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; Green Party 9. 
Bills read a second time.
Tabling of Documents — Licensing Trusts: Letter from Rod Donald 
Tabling of Documents — Licensing Trusts: Letter from Rod Donald 
[Volume:625;Page:19864] 
Tabling of Documents 
Licensing Trusts: Letter from Rod Donald 
ROD DONALD (Co-Leader—Green) 
: 
 During the debate on the second reading of the Gambling Amendment Bill in the middle of my speech there were some interjections from New Zealand First members saying that the Green Party had not supported the licensing trusts problem being addressed by way of a Statutes Amendment Bill. I seek leave to table the letter I sent to the Hon George Hawkins supporting the use of a Statutes Amendment Bill to address the licensing trusts problem. That should clarify the matter and I hope the New Zealand First members recognise that they made a mistake. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Goudie Sandra: Wellington Regional Council (Water Board Functions) Bill — Third Reading 
Goudie Sandra: Wellington Regional Council (Water Board Functions) Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:624;Page:19271] 
SANDRA GOUDIE (National—Coromandel) 
: 
 Mr Speaker—and I must say that it is refreshing to be able to say “Mr Speaker”—National supports the Wellington Regional Council (Water Board Functions) Bill but we do have one or two reservations around it. 
It is a local bill. It directly affects only the Wellington Regional Council area and applies only to the land held under the Wellington Regional Water Board Act. The Wellington Regional Council is responsible for the supply of bulk water to the territorial authorities within the Wellington water region. The council is also empowered to establish forests and to carry out forestry operations. For those purposes certain lands were vested in or under the control of the council as water collection or forestry areas and the purpose of this bill is to allow the council to enter into renewable energy activities on those lands. 
This bill was passed to the Local Government and Environment Committee on 14 May 2003 so it is interesting to see that this small bill has taken so long to come to this stage. 
Darren Hughes 
: That’s very interesting. 
SANDRA GOUDIE 
: It is a fascinating piece of information for Mr Hughes and I am sure that he is paying rapt attention. 
Although National supports this bill we have some concerns about the extraordinary contradictions of this Government in that it is allowing renewable energy activities on land belonging to the Wellington Regional Council but it could not support a chorus of local government support for the Dobson dam in the northern area of the South Island. It is an extraordinary contradiction given the overwhelming support for that Dobson dam. Without exception everybody supported that proposal. 
This Wellington Regional Council bill supports renewable energy activities on land that is also considered to have some significant conservation value. Although this bill prescribes that that land is to be used for renewable energy activity there was no move on the part of the Government to accord the same advantage to those authorities connected with the Dobson dam issue. That still rankles with many people in that area and will continue to do so because there was absolutely no reason why that particular project could not go ahead. 
Sitting suspended from 6 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.
Motions — Silver Ferns Victory 
Motions — Silver Ferns Victory 
[Volume:610;Page:7131] 
Motions 
Silver Ferns Victory 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK (Prime Minister) 
: 
 I move  
That this House convey its congratulations to the Silver Ferns on becoming the world netball champion after beating Australia in the final of the championships in Jamaica yesterday.  
The Cabinet managed to finish a little early to watch the last 15 minutes yesterday having had electronic updates throughout the game. It was a wonderful moment to see the Silver Ferns come through triumphant. We all remember the endings of two previous major contests—in Christchurch in 1999 at the world championships where the game went in the last minute and a similar thing happened in Manchester at the Commonwealth Games. To see this team star like it did yesterday was a triumph. I am sure the House will join with me in offering congratulations. 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Leader of the Opposition) 
: 
 The Opposition wholeheartedly concurs with the Government in the motion that it has moved. The victory was a magnificent display of spirit over an old foe. I would like to congratulate in particular fellow Southlander Lesley Nicol who has now played over 100 tests for New Zealand and finally won a world championship. I would also like to encourage all the volunteers and parents who support New Zealand netball from the schoolgirls right through to the clubs. That is the machine that will produce the next generation of New Zealand world champions. 
Motion agreed to.
Hartley Ann: Te Runanga o Ngati Awa Bill — Procedure In Committee 
Hartley Ann: Te Runanga o Ngati Awa Bill — Procedure In Committee 
[Volume:623;Page:18919] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: I am putting the question. There was no further— 
Hon Roger Sowry 
: I will take another call.
Barker Rick: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Stockholm Convention) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Barker Rick: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Stockholm Convention) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:609;Page:6975] 
Hon RICK BARKER (Minister for Courts) 
: I move  
That the question be now put 
. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Before I call the next speaker there is too much conversation going on. Members should not conduct conversations in the Chamber unless it is necessary to do so; and then so as not to disturb the proceedings. I find it somewhat difficult at times to concentrate on the member speaking when there are so many conversations going on. For those who are wandering around the Chamber I refer them to Standing Order 82.
Vote: Supreme Court Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Supreme Court Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:612;Page:9016] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 51 
New Zealand National 25; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 8. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand Labour 52; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Tony Ryall to clause 2 be agreed to: 
to omit all the words after the words “into force on” and substitute the words “1 July 2007”.
Holidays Amendment Bill — Instruction to Committee 
Holidays Amendment Bill — Instruction to Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:16017] 
Holidays Amendment Bill 
Instruction to Committee 
Hon PAUL SWAIN (Minister of Labour) 
: 
 I move  
That it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the Holidays Amendment Bill that it take the bill part by part. 
Motion agreed to.