Doocey Matt; McAnulty KieranMATT DOOCEY (National—Waimakariri): Thank you very much Mr Chair. I just want to build on what Mr Bayly was saying in his contribution because it is interesting—there is a proposal for an interim review at five years. So I just want to drill down a bit deeper into that. What is the benchmarking where you come up with a five-year period for an interim review? Because surely—and some of my Victoria University of Wellington public policy mates might also agree with me—the difficulties will come at the implementation stage. So why would you wait five years; why not have a review at the implementation stage yearly or bi-annually? You have the structures in place with the consumer forum and the regional representation group then why wait nine years for a comprehensive review?Well we all know why it's a nine-year wait: because we want everyone to swallow the dead rat and then maybe after nine years it's digested and it's being excreted and they might have forgotten the foul taste of that dirty rat in their mouth. So I would say Why wait five years? What is the benchmark for nine years for a comprehensive review?"And to the Associate Minister the Hon Kieran McAnulty who spent a lot of time talking about his trip to every council in New Zealand and how he was going in to listen and finally we get to ask the Associate Minister what did they actually say? Was it true when they said great guy wrong party. And that's what every council said when he went round. Because he knows as much as everyone this is a dead rat that he needs to swallow.But let's put it on the table and let's ask the Minister if he'll agree tonight to putting a clause in under the interim review or the comprehensive review. How about in the review if the ratepayers don't like it after five years and nine years we pull the pin? How about that? Because let's remind ourselves this Government said people could opt out. Remember that? The good old days. Until they got caught out and realised it was a legislative all-in. So why not have the ability in the review process that if a council decides maybe it could be by majority of the ratepayers—I know in Waimakariri they had 95 percent of ratepayers who wanted to opt out—maybe if there's a majority—Dr Duncan Webb: Five regions lodged consents in breach.MATT DOOCEY: —they can opt out. I'd be interest to hear—well and Duncan Webb makes a contribution. The guy who's been silent in his electorate of Christchurch Central on three waters for the last year has now woken up. And let's not forget Garry Moore the left-leaning former mayor of Christchurch who was Duncan Webb's campaign manager resigned from the Labour Party because of three waters and went and wrote a letter to the editor in the Christchurch Press and said he'll never be Duncan's campaign manager again because of three waters. Now he's found his voice as the bill's getting rammed through under urgency. Yeah that's right. And you know what they called that? A lion in Wellington and a lamb in the electorate. That's exactly what they call that. Thank you Mr Chair.Hon KIERAN McANULTY (Associate Minister of Local Government): Just to clear a few matters up that have been raised both Mr Bayly and Mr Doocey tried to traverse areas that were covered in great detail by the Minister earlier. There wasn't a new question posed in that. However Ms van Velden did ask a question regarding the Government policy statement (GPS) and the forums. I just wanted to reassure her that the GPS the monitoring function and the consumer forum all serve very different purposes and she was conflating purposes of all three."