Logie Jan; Hipango Harete; Sepuloni CarmelJAN LOGIE (Green): Thank you. I'm wanting to ask some questions around the Accessibility for New Zealanders Bill which I understand may now no longer be presented to Parliament before the election which I'm hoping to have confirmed. I will celebrate loudly if I get to hear that considering the huge opposition from disability communities to that piece of legislation and what a deep let-down it was for all of us who care about removing barriers to full participation in our society. So I'm interested to know—CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jacqui Dean): Order! Order! This is an Estimates debate and so the member will confine her comments and questions to the Appropriation Bill.JAN LOGIE: So the accessibility bill in terms of the implementation of that has financial impacts in the year ahead and actually in terms of the budgets through the organisations it fits within the gambit of the agencies and so I think is in space for conversation in this hearing.HARETE HIPANGO (National): Thank you Madam Chair. Minister I appreciate the answers that have been provided. I'm particularly interested in bringing it back to the training programmes and the fact that under your leadership this Government has cut funding to these programmes. My colleague identified a $68 million decrease in the Flexi-wage programme a $14.5 million decrease in the Māori Trade Training fund and an almost $8 million decrease in funding for the Mana in Mahi programme. Why is that Minister when there's been a constant increase in job seeker numbers this year with more than 100000 individuals who've been on jobseeker for more than a year?Hon CARMEL SEPULONI (Minister for Social Development and Employment): I'll just respond to this question while we check out the appropriation for the last question. There continues to be a huge investment in upskilling and training as I mentioned before. Some of the initiatives were funded through COVID funding and so we were never going to be able to continue funding to the extent that we were during that period of time with that additional funding that was available. But we've maintained our focus on those areas that we do know that work making the Training Incentive Allowance permanent now because previously when we reinstated it it was funded via COVID funding. Continuing with Mana in Mahi continuing with Flexi-wage continuing with the Apprenticeship Boost and then of course committing to two more years of the Mayors Taskforce for Jobs and Auckland Council's Ngā Puna Pūkenga—so it is still an expansion of support that is in place compared to when we took office.The good thing about these programmes is that as I said earlier to the Green Party member we are able to measure the effectiveness of the programmes and see that they are making a real difference particularly for those groups that we have been targeting because of the fact that they could be disadvantaged in a tight labour market. So I'm really proud of the investments that we have. We were never going to be able to retain the level of investment that came with the COVID funding but they were the right investments to make at the time and we've continued on with those things that we do know are effective.