White HelenHELEN WHITE (Labour): I rise to take a call in opposition to this bill and I do so having had a look at the Land Transport Act and also at the regulatory systems Act and thought about the best way to deal with an issue like this. Now Simeon Brown says that he wants to have a bill that's specifically about vehicles that do electric emergency work. What about the gas area? What about chemical spills? What about other people who might need this? Those are the types of people who actually go to the right agency which is Waka Kotahi and they go through a process and they actually are looked at in their merit. And that Act sets out the capacity for that agency to go through and look at the particular group asking for this kind of status and the needs of the community with regard to that. That is a process that's set up and for the life of me I do not understand why Simeon Brown would not actually use that process and why Vector Energy wouldn't use that process. It does seem to be a piece of legislation that supports one particular lobbyist that has gone to the National Party and Mr Brown has put up a bill specifically for that group. And I take my friend in the ACT Party's view—David Seymour: Point of order Mr Speaker.DEPUTY SPEAKER: Point of order David Seymour—I'll just get Helen White to sit down.David Seymour: Learn the rules. Standing Order 121 says it is outside of the Standing Orders to impugn or impute an improper motive to a member. Now what Helen White the member for Auckland Central has just done—Chris Bishop: She's not the MP for Auckland Central.David Seymour: Oh she's not the member for Auckland Central?Chris Bishop: She lost.David Seymour: Oh sorry.DEPUTY SPEAKER: Can you get to the point of order?David Seymour: Yeah sorry I apologise to the member.DEPUTY SPEAKER: And actually before you do I'm going to require Chris Bishop to stand withdraw and apologise.Chris Bishop: What for pointing out the truth? I stand withdraw and apologise.DEPUTY SPEAKER: No no not for that. I'll tell you why: points of order are heard in silence as he well knows.Chris Bishop: Fair enough. I withdraw and apologise.David Seymour: The accusation and imputation of improper motives on to the member responsible for this bill are unparliamentary. We can't have our standards slip to where people are just slagging across the House telling people that they are corrupt and have impure motivations to bring a bill to this House. I think the member has to withdraw and apologise for that comment. It's clearly in contradiction of Standing Order 121.DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yeah that's not what I heard so that might be your interpretation of it. There are certain things that members can say but that was not to the point that I believe that she has broken a Standing Order.HELEN WHITE: Thank you sir. In fact just to take that point there is absolutely no way I would do that. I am lobbied all the time and I don't consider it corrupt to listen to the lobbying but I do think it's an important thing to point out that this bill only looks at one group of people who may be irritated by having to go through a process that actually respects the rights of everybody and balances them and weighs them.We've had a lot of points made tonight about What if everybody wanted this and everybody had a different coloured light and would it work?" and it probably wouldn't. We've had actually one of your own colleagues in ACT talk—sorry David Seymour's own colleagues in ACT—very compellingly about the need for some people to get a better run than others in terms of things like midwives or doctors and those people actually have been through a process. They don't all have their own Act. They go through a process and respect that process and that's the way we do business and it's a good way to do business. In something like transport those agencies have the best knowledge of those things and we have delegated those kinds of considerations to them and given them rules in the legislation which they will follow to get there and that seems a very sensible system to me.I do wonder why these bills keep on coming up that actually just do something already in law. I wonder if there is a bit of a vacuum here where people cannot come up with something that's actually original. There's so many gaps out there at the moment that we actually do need to fill and on my side of the House I believe that may of the backbenchers are coming up with really great new ideas. They're fresh ideas. They're bringing things to the table. So this is not something that I do think needs to be done or in fact would add to anything. In fact I think it would erode the rights of others who stand alongside workers like the workers at Vector and actually need just as much consideration and actually have gone through respecting the processes that are there. So I urge Vector to go back and talk to the right agency and go through the proper process and be considered and have a measured weighed decision in the legislation that I trust will work.I would just like to talk about the congestion in Auckland for a minute and the relationship to this. I don't really think it's relevant. I take the point from the ACT Party member who spoke before Simon Court where he talked about the fact that this is an issue really where you'd need to train people. You'd need to make sure that they were actually able to use these. You need wraparound in that way and that is very important. Actually in a congested city that becomes even more important. So I don't think that this issue is created by congestion; I think it's an issue that has arisen because one particular group doesn't want to go through the proper process for going and doesn't want to be measured alongside other groups that may have a competing right and need for this. So I am absolutely confident that Waka Kotahi will look at this situation in a good and well-informed way and I look forward to a process that is more appropriate and for that reason we simply cannot support this legislation."