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Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 03 September 2013. Volume:693;Page:13143. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I thank the member for his point. The question has been accepted. The question was authenticated at the time that it was accepted. I will be watching carefully the answers that flow from the question to make sure that the Minister responds in a way for which he has ministerial responsibility.
Mallard Trevor: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 03 September 2013. Volume:693;Page:13143. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I would like to refer you and question No. 2 to Standing Order 377(1)(b). I ask you to rule that the tail part of this question is an argument or an expression of opinion and therefore should not be allowed.
Goff Phil: Motions — Syria Internal Conflict—Use of Chemical WeaponsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGoff Phil: Motions — Syria Internal Conflict—Use of Chemical Weapons[Sitting date: 03 September 2013. Volume:693;Page:13141. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon PHIL GOFF (Labour—Mt Roskill): I seek leave of the House to move without notice and without debate a motion condemning the use of poisonous gas in Syria contrary to international law.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is none.Hon PHIL GOFF: I moveThat this House condemns the use of poisonous gas in Syria in contravention of international law which has resulted in the indiscriminate and horrific deaths of hundreds of civilians including children and calls on all members of the United Nations Security Council to agree on action that will bring those responsible to account result in a United Nations - supervised destruction of all chemical weapons in that country and stop the supply to the warring parties of weapons that are fuelling that conflict.Motion agreed to.
Carter David: Citizens Initiated Referenda — Sales of State-owned AssetsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Citizens Initiated Referenda — Sales of State-owned Assets[Sitting date: 03 September 2013. Volume:693;Page:13141. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Pursuant to section 21 of the Citizens Initiated Referenda Act 1993 I hereby inform the House that a petition has been received from Roy Reid seeking a referendum on the question: “Do you support the Government selling up to 49 percent of Meridian Energy Mighty River Power Genesis Power Solid Energy and Air New Zealand?”. The petition has been certified as correct by the Clerk of the House under section 18 of the Act.
Urgent Debates Declined — Dairy Products Whey Protein—Contamination Incident and Test ResultsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUrgent Debates Declined — Dairy Products Whey Protein—Contamination Incident and Test Results[Sitting date: 03 September 2013. Volume:693;Page:13158. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Urgent Debates DeclinedDairy Products Whey Protein—Contamination Incident and Test ResultsMr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from the Hon Damien O’Connor seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the incorrect finding from AgResearch that indicated thatClostridiumbotulinumwas found in whey protein concentrate shipments manufactured by Fonterra. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. The Ministry for Primary Industries provided the results of additional testing it had commissioned last Wednesday. A debate on the initial finding was held on 6 August. A number of inquiries are under way and the announcement that the bacteria found in the whey protein concentrate was notClostridiumbotulinumwill not affect them. There will be other opportunities to consider the matter when the results of the inquiries are known. I do not consider I would be justified in setting aside the business of the House again today. The application is therefore declined.
Motions — Syria Internal Conflict—Use of Chemical WeaponsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMotions — Syria Internal Conflict—Use of Chemical Weapons[Sitting date: 03 September 2013. Volume:693;Page:13141. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MotionsSyria Internal Conflict—Use of Chemical WeaponsHon PHIL GOFF (Labour—Mt Roskill): I seek leave of the House to move without notice and without debate a motion condemning the use of poisonous gas in Syria contrary to international law.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is none.Hon PHIL GOFF: I moveThat this House condemns the use of poisonous gas in Syria in contravention of international law which has resulted in the indiscriminate and horrific deaths of hundreds of civilians including children and calls on all members of the United Nations Security Council to agree on action that will bring those responsible to account result in a United Nations - supervised destruction of all chemical weapons in that country and stop the supply to the warring parties of weapons that are fuelling that conflict.Motion agreed to.
Citizens Initiated Referenda — Sales of State-owned AssetsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCitizens Initiated Referenda — Sales of State-owned Assets[Sitting date: 03 September 2013. Volume:693;Page:13141. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Tuesday 3 September 2013Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.Citizens Initiated ReferendaSales of State-owned AssetsMr SPEAKER: Pursuant to section 21 of the Citizens Initiated Referenda Act 1993 I hereby inform the House that a petition has been received from Roy Reid seeking a referendum on the question: “Do you support the Government selling up to 49 percent of Meridian Energy Mighty River Power Genesis Power Solid Energy and Air New Zealand?”. The petition has been certified as correct by the Clerk of the House under section 18 of the Act.
Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeInsurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12811. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment BillIn CommitteePart 1 Amendments to Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Act 2010Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour): Thank you for the call on Part 1 of the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill. I have one question for the Minister of Finance and that is to ascertain whether when assessing whether these regulations were necessary consideration was given to the trade-off between greater satisfaction with prudential margins and the cost of insurance. That is an issue that I raised in an earlier contribution and I have not yet had a reply from the Minister.Part 1 agreed to.Part 2agreed to.Clause 1agreed to.Clause 2agreed to.The Committee divided the bill into the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill and the Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Billpursuant to Supplementary Order Paper 333.Bill reported without amendment.Report adopted.
UrgencyText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUrgency[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12810. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]UrgencyHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): Mr Speaker—[Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order!Hon GERRY BROWNLEE: I do apologise and I appreciate the barbs across the House. But let me tell you that if I were Shane Jones I would not be self-styling myself as “Humpty”.I moveThat urgency be accorded the Committee stage and third reading of the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill the Resource Management Reform Bill the Bail Amendment Bill the Public Finance (Fiscal Responsibility) Amendment Bill the Patents Bill the Financial Markets Conduct Bill and any bills into which they may be divided; the first reading and referral to a select committee of the Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) the Land Transport and Road User Charges Legislation Amendment Bill the Animal Welfare Amendment Bill the Victims’ Orders Against Violent Offenders Bill the Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill the Social Security (Fraud Measures and Debt Recovery) Amendment Bill; and the second reading of the Heritage New ZealandPouhere Taonga Bill and the Victims of Crime Reform Bill.All of these bills are currently on the Order Paper and they are bills that have got a certain amount of time on them. As I have explained many times to the House before time in the legislative environment is relatively short. The House sits for only 17 hours a week. By the time you take out a general debate and question time it comes down to around about 13 hours a week which does not give us a lot of time to consider legislation. From time to time it will be necessary to take urgency to advance thingsand as the shadow Leader of the House pointed out last week there are a number of select committees that could do with having some more work to get their teeth into. So this is an attempt to move the House forward in a very positive way with bills making progress and work being sent to the select committees.A party vote was called for on the questionThat urgency be accorded.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Motion agreed to.
Urgent Debates Declined — Canterbury Recovery—Offer on Red Zone PropertiesText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUrgent Debates Declined — Canterbury Recovery—Offer on Red Zone Properties[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12810. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Urgent Debates DeclinedCanterbury Recovery—Offer on Red Zone PropertiesMr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from the Hon Ruth Dyson seeking to debate the recent decision of the High Court on the Government’s offer to buy red zone land from owners as it applied to vacant land and uninsured properties in Canterbury. For there to be an urgent debate there must be administrative or ministerial responsibility for a case of recent occurrence. The member in her application cites the judgment of the High Court issued on 26 August as the particular case of recent occurrence. An urgent debate is a way of holding the Government accountable for an action for which it is responsible. There must be a distinct governmental responsibility for the particular case that is sought for debate. A decision of the High Court is not a matter for which any Minister has responsibility. The application is therefore declined.
Business of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBusiness of the House[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12853. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Business of the HouseHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): I seek leave for there to be a question time at 2 p.m. on Wednesday 28 August and on Thursday 29 August 2013 and for questions to be lodged in the normal manner pursuant to Standing Order 378.Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There is no opposition. Leave is granted.
Collins Judith: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCollins Judith: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12880. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Justice): I moveThat the Bail Amendment Bill be now read a third time. This bill will make it harder for those accused of serious offences to get bail. It will improve public safety and ensure the overall integrity of New Zealand’s bail system. The Government is confident that the bill strikes the right balance between upholding public safety and maintaining fundamental rights such as the presumption of innocence and freedom from arbitrary detention. The bill improves public safety by reversing the burden of proof in bail decisions for defendants charged with very serious offences such as murder and class A drug offences.The bill also expands the list of offences where a defendant faces a reverse burden of proof when they are being considered for bail if they have been convicted of one of these offences before. The new offences include kidnapping aggravated burglary assault with intent to rob and sexual conduct with a child under 12 years or a young person under 16 years. All of these changes will make perfect sense for most New Zealanders.Debate interrupted.
Vote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12880. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat clause 3 be agreed to.Ayes102New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes18Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Clause 3 agreed to.Bill reported with amendment.Report adopted.
Vote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12880. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes68New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes52New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Amendment agreed to.Clause 2 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12879. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat clause 1 be agreed to.Ayes102New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes18Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Clause 1 agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 339 in the name of the Hon Judith Collins to clause 2 be agreed to.
Vote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12879. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 2 as amended be agreed to.Ayes102New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes18Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12879. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes70New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes50New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Amendments agreed to.
Vote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12879. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 1 as amended be agreed to.Ayes104New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes16Green Party 14; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Part 1 as amended agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 339 in the name of the Hon Judith Collins to Part 2 be agreed to.
Vote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12879. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes7New Zealand First 7.Noes113New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; Mana 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan.Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12878. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes7New Zealand First 7.Noes113New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; Mana 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 335 in the name of Richard Prosser to clause 9 be agreed to.
Vote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12878. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments as amended be agreed to.Ayes68New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes52New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Amendments as amended agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 334 in the name of Richard Prosser to clause 8 be agreed to.
Vote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12878. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments to the amendments be agreed to.Ayes68New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes52New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Amendments to the amendments agreed to.The question was put that the amendments as amended set out on Supplementary Order Paper 339 in the name of the Hon Judith Collins to Part 1 be agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12878. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Members we move to the votes on the Committee stage. Although the parts and the clauses were taken as one question I intend to put the questions on the parts and the clauses separately.The question was put that the following amendments in the name of the Hon Judith Collins to the proposed amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 339 in her name to clause 19(2) be agreed to:in new section 33(1A) insert “a” before “District”; andin new section 33(1B) insert “a” before “District”.
Horan Brendan: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHoran Brendan: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12877. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]BRENDAN HORAN (Independent): There have been six Bail Amendment Acts in less than 10 years with the most recent in 2011. We had the Bail Amendment Act 2002 Bail Amendment Act 2003 Bail Amendment Act 2007 2008 2009 2011 and now we have this Bail Amendment Bill. Surely we are better than having these knee-jerk bills and legislation. We should do it once and do it right.Laws are based on anticipated consequences that are sometimes never seen. We see horrific crime but judges can go on only what they are given. We do not need more knee-jerk populist laws; what we do need is proper resourcing. These knee-jerk laws need to be tempered. We have seen the police gasping for air if you like being under-resourced. We have got now a situation where more police than ever are leaving—The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Order! This is not to do with the police. This is on bail not the police.BRENDAN HORAN: Thank you. I would say that this bill is funded to fail. I spoke with one of New Zealand’s top barristers today and he told me of a 17-year-old girl charged with the possession of a class A drug. The police said it was a class A—The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Order!BRENDAN HORAN: I am talking—The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Order! What you need to focus on in this bill in the Committee stage is the bail amendments—nothing to do with the police. Just get back to the substance of the Committee stage.BRENDAN HORAN: Thank you. I would like to say that the reverse onus of proof is wrong. It is against natural justice. It is against our New Zealand Bill of Rights Act. We need to be tough on crime but equally we need to be tough on bad legislation.Speaking on the reverse onus of proof I can say that I was told today of a case where a 17-year-old girl was charged with possession of a class A drug. The judge said to the police: “Well why do you not just do what they do at the airports and test it?”. But the police do not have the resources for that so they sent it to the Institute of Environmental Science and Research. That could have been a hold-up of over 7 weeks and a 17-year-old girl would have been in jail for 7 weeks. It turns out that it was not a class A drug at all; it was a party drug.This is just one example of why we should vote against this bill. It is populist and it is knee-jerk. We need good laws in this country. We need good legislation not something that is just pulled out of a hat and is against natural justice. Thank you.
Hipkins Chris: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHipkins Chris: Bail Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12870. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS HIPKINS (Senior Whip—Labour): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I seek leave for all stages of the Bail Amendment Bill to be debated as one question with all questions to be put to the vote at the end of the debate.The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): Separately?CHRIS HIPKINS: Yes.The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course? There is none. Leave is agreed.
Tisch Lindsay: Resource Management Amendment Bill Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill (No 2) Local Government Official Information and Meetings Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Resource Management Amendment Bill Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill (No 2) Local Government Official Information and Meetings Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12867. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I understand that the next call is a split call. The Hon Ruth Dyson 5 minutes.
Roy Eric: Business of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Business of the House[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12853. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There is no opposition. Leave is granted.
Brownlee Gerry: Business of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Business of the House[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12853. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): I seek leave for there to be a question time at 2 p.m. on Wednesday 28 August and on Thursday 29 August 2013 and for questions to be lodged in the normal manner pursuant to Standing Order 378.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12850. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat clause 2 be agreed to.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Clause 2 agreed to.The Committee divided the bill into the Resource Management Amendment Bill the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill (No 2) and the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Amendment Bill pursuant to Supplementary Order Paper 284.Bill reported with amendment.Report adopted.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12850. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat clause 1 be agreed to.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Clause 1 agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12849. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat schedule 3 be agreed to.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Schedule 3 agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12849. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat schedule 2 as amended be agreed to.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Schedule 2 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12848. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Amendments agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12848. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 3 be agreed to.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Part 3 agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12848. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 2 as amended be agreed to.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12848. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendments not agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12847. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes98New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes23Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Amendments agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 281 in the name of Eugenie Sage to clause 125 be agreed to.
Hauiti Claudette: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHauiti Claudette: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12833. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CLAUDETTE HAUITI (National): Kia ora. I am really excited to take a call on this Resource Management Reform Bill. In this bill is a proposal to develop a one-off hearings process for the first Auckland Unitary Plan. This is a streamlined process for developing and making operational the first plan which develops a set of consistent planning policies and consistency of rules within a workable time frame. But what I am really excited about is that once the Auckland Council has developed a plan it will be referred to a hearings panel in consultation with the council and the Māori Statutory Board. So although I hear my colleague Phil Twyford across the way say that it was arrogant of the Ministers to not refer to Aucklanders well in actual fact they did. The Māori Statutory Board is very much part and parcel of the make-up ofTāmaki-makau-rau and as we all know the Māori Statutory Board is made up of the iwi ofTāmaki-makau-rau and themātāwaka so it is very much a part of Auckland andTāmaki-makau-rau.We are also a party and a Government that has worked hard to develop its relationship with iwi and this bill is an example of that strengthening of iwi relationships. Iwi are fully involved from the initial stages not as a tack-on or an addendum. Iwi will be at the table and again through the appointments of the hearings panel. I want to reiterate that this bill allows Māori interests inTāmaki-makau-rau Auckland to be considered at the beginning stages earlier on in the process and as I said earlier not as a tack-on or as an addendum. Again AucklandTāmaki-makau-rau Aucklandmātāwaka and theherenga waka will be considered earlier in the resource management planning process with solutions developed up front with iwi consultation and iwi input.This bill is about the timely delivery of the Auckland Unitary Plan. It is the council’s main tool for achieving integrated management of the region’s natural and physicalresources and we know that. It provides rules for whatwhānau can do on their whenua and on their properties. So I thank the Minister for the Environment for bringing these reforms to the House. Kia ora.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12830. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 1 as amended be agreed to.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12830. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendments not agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12829. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Amendments agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 282 in the name of Eugenie Sage to Part 1 be agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12829. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Papers 285 and 324 in the name of the Hon Amy Adams to Part 1 be agreed to.
Roy Eric: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12829. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): Yes I was going to give an admonishment when we had finished. Votes—and points of order but votes particularly—need to be heard in silence for two reasons which I have been at pains to point out to the Committee. No member in this Chamber will vote under duress but more important we just simply sometimes do not hear the votes. So voting will be done in silence.
Upston Louise: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUpston Louise: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12829. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]LOUISE UPSTON (Senior Whip—National): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I thought votes were meant to be taken in silence.
Shanks Katrina: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeShanks Katrina: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12829. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]KATRINA SHANKS (National): I moveThat the question be now put.A party vote was called for on the question that the question be now put.
Dean Jacqui: Resource Management Reform Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDean Jacqui: Resource Management Reform Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12827. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki): I moveThat the question be now put.
Vote: Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12820. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill and the Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Bill be now read a third time.Ayes106New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan.Noes15Green Party 14; Mana 1.Bills read a third time.
Graham Kennedy: Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGraham Kennedy: Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12820. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green): If there are no other speakers then let me just reiterate that the Green Party—for the reasons advanced by Russel Norman Julie Anne Genter and me over the previous readings—will be opposing this legislation the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill and the Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Bill. Rather than stretching out time let me just pick up on one point of interest this afternoon that was raised by David Parker and explored by David Cunliffe and that is the issue of extending the risk from 500 years to 1000 years. The suggestion from David Parker is that from the Reserve Bank to the insurance companies this will no doubt increase the incentive of the insurance companies to increase the premiums. That will be passed on to the house owner who will either be unable or unwilling to cover their own insurance or at least will have less insurance so it will prove to be counter-productive.I have a high regard for pretty much everything that David Parker does and explains but I wonder whether in fact he is right on this particular one for the following reason. If the insurance company is told to extend its cover from 500 years to 1000 years what it is essentially doing is simply extending the time period of risk. That essential risk factor does not change. It remains the same over the 1000 years. So if an insurance company is accepting a risk over 1000 years it follows axiomatically that it will be charging premiums over 1000 years—precisely the same period. It is not the case that it will be taking the risk over 1000 years and charging over 500 years. If it were then indeed it would be justification for an increase in premium. But if in fact the time period for cover equates to the time period for insurance premiums then in fact there will be no justification at all for increasing any premiums. Essentially almost in an existential sense it is New Zealand and New Zealanders through households being prepared to determine what level of risk they are prepared to cover. This does not arise admittedly in the context of this legislation but it is alluded to and no doubt as Mr Parker and Mr Cunliffe have intimated it will come up or should for consideration before very long.
Williams Andrew: Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilliams Andrew: Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12819. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]ANDREW WILLIAMS (NZ First): It is a pleasure to rise on behalf of New Zealand First on the legislation arising from the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill. It is particularly a great pleasure to rise after the MP for North Shore and I am sure that insurance is very much on her mind being a recent new resident of the North Shore this year moving over a few months ago to a cliff-top property at Stanley Point. I hope the member for North Shore has taken appropriate insurance for her cliff-top property now that she has finally moved to the North Shore after nearly 18 months of living south of the bridge.But moving on to this legislation we in New Zealand First believe that it is a fundamental requirement for New Zealand to have profound well-functioning solid robust insurance. It is most important. This has been highlighted in the last 2 or 3 years where we have all had a huge wake-up call in terms of the risk that we face in this country where natural disasters and other disasters of a human kind can wreak havoc on a community and can wreak havoc on a town city or region. As a result it is most important that we take the risk out of that and are properly insured.This is very much technical legislation. If you read the background to it it is very much administrative legislation. It tidies up some loose ends puts some greater controls in place and makes sure that it is overall a more robust insurance sector. At the end of the day it is most important because a modern economy—and we do pride ourselves New Zealand on thinking that we are a modern economy—does depend on having the safeguards of a sound insurance sector. The public must have confidence that the sectoris sound and appropriate prudential supervision of the sector is an important regulatory function that this Parliament must ensure is done to the very highest level.We have scrutinised the legislation and we feel that this is good policy. As we have said in this House many times over the last 2 years New Zealand First will support policy where it is in our opinion good policy and we will oppose any bill where we feel it is bad policy. In this particular case this does beef up the insurance sector we do believe it is good policy and New Zealand First will be supporting it. We certainly hope as a result that the member for North Shore will also ensure that her cliff-top property has good insurance as well.
Goldsmith Paul: Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGoldsmith Paul: Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill Reserve Bank of New Zealand Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12814. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL GOLDSMITH (National): It is my pleasure to speak on the third reading of the legislation arising from the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill. National is firmly focused on responsibly managing the Government’s finances and building a more competitive and productive economy and the insurance sector is a very significant part of the economy—a significant cost for households businesses and Government as a whole and those costs have increased significantly in New Zealand as a result of the earthquakes. We cannot do much about that but we can ensure that Government regulation effectively balances the need for supervision of this industry so as to protect policyholders and the community as a whole and the need to do that in a way that does not add unnecessary costs on to the industry. I think that the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Act of 2010 did a generally effective and robust job in balancing those requirements but it is not unexpected that some provisions have been identified as appropriate for reform—and indeed that is what the point of this legislation is—and I am glad to see that we have widespread support across the House for this legislation. It does not involve significant changes to the existing policy and it is expected to continue to benefit from industry support.Certain provisions—can I just trespass on the House’s time for a moment—have been identified as being too onerous in the circumstances where policyholders are not expected to gain material benefits or additional protection even if the insurer complies with their requirements. Those elements have been identified and this legislation will allow the Reserve Bank to exempt an insurer that is running off its liabilities from the requirement to have a current financial strength rating.Often there will be limited public benefit for an insurer to hold a financial strength rating where it is required to cease to enter into new contracts of insurance and for contracts of insurance that renew more frequently than annually disclosure in writing of the insurer’s financial strength rating to the policyholder should be made on at least an annual basis rather than on every renewal.Those are the sorts of things that this legislation has been working on and it is all about making sure that the insurance industry which is so important to the health and competitiveness of New Zealand’s economy is maintaining its strength. On that basis I commend this legislation to the House. Thank you.
Parker David: Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeParker David: Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12811. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour): Thank you for the call on Part 1 of the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill. I have one question for the Minister of Finance and that is to ascertain whether when assessing whether these regulations were necessary consideration was given to the trade-off between greater satisfaction with prudential margins and the cost of insurance. That is an issue that I raised in an earlier contribution and I have not yet had a reply from the Minister.Part 1 agreed to.
Vote: UrgencyText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Urgency[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12811. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat urgency be accorded.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Motion agreed to.
Brownlee Gerry: UrgencyText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Urgency[Sitting date: 27 August 2013. Volume:693;Page:12810. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): Mr Speaker—[Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order!Hon GERRY BROWNLEE: I do apologise and I appreciate the barbs across the House. But let me tell you that if I were Shane Jones I would not be self-styling myself as “Humpty”.I moveThat urgency be accorded the Committee stage and third reading of the Insurance (Prudential Supervision) Amendment Bill the Resource Management Reform Bill the Bail Amendment Bill the Public Finance (Fiscal Responsibility) Amendment Bill the Patents Bill the Financial Markets Conduct Bill and any bills into which they may be divided; the first reading and referral to a select committee of the Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) the Land Transport and Road User Charges Legislation Amendment Bill the Animal Welfare Amendment Bill the Victims’ Orders Against Violent Offenders Bill the Border Processing (Trade Single Window and Duties) Bill the Social Security (Fraud Measures and Debt Recovery) Amendment Bill; and the second reading of the Heritage New ZealandPouhere Taonga Bill and the Victims of Crime Reform Bill.All of these bills are currently on the Order Paper and they are bills that have got a certain amount of time on them. As I have explained many times to the House before time in the legislative environment is relatively short. The House sits for only 17 hours a week. By the time you take out a general debate and question time it comes down to around about 13 hours a week which does not give us a lot of time to consider legislation. From time to time it will be necessary to take urgency to advance thingsand as the shadow Leader of the House pointed out last week there are a number of select committees that could do with having some more work to get their teeth into. So this is an attempt to move the House forward in a very positive way with bills making progress and work being sent to the select committees.