Collins JudithHon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Revenue): What a delight to be able to take part in this debate today. It has been an interesting few days and in my opinion who knew that we had a slave labour camp operating on the North Shore of Auckland which of course the Labour Party leader Mr Andrew Little is running from at the speed of light. I thought it would be a good idea to look at some of these things. Who is involved here? Well Matt McCarten who is apparently no longer involved with the Labour Party—actually just a few months ago he was in fact the Chief of Staff for Mr Andrew Little. He was running the Labour Party leader's office and he was brought in by David Cunliffe when he was the leader. So he has been around for quite some time before that. But then all of a sudden he was sent to Auckland to be the director of the Auckland office which according to Andrew Little was his Auckland office—so no doubt paid for by Parliamentary Service. As I drove past it just the other day that office in Grafton Road there were signs everywhere for Andrew Little MP in Auckland. I thought it was interesting that it had the crest of Parliament all over it. So that might need looking at.But as well as that there is a Mr Paul Chalmers who was part of the ruling council of the Labour Party. He has now apparently stood down from that. So I thought I should have a look at who he actually is. Well he was in fact campaign chair for Jacinda Ardern. So I guess he must know a lot of people in the Labour Party as well as having been on its ruling council. He has actually set up and owns a school for—guess what? Foreign students. But he will be all right in this case because he is actually the spokesperson for the Indian education group—the same people whom the Labour Party has spent the last so many months attacking and saying that they do not come to New Zealand for education. So I guess that would be experience speaking.Then the other question that needs to be asked is: where has all this money come from to undertake this undertaking of 85 foreign students coming to New Zealand to live in substandard conditions and to advocate for the Labour Party? Well there are all sorts of rumours floating around about this and I really think people need to know the answers to it. I am really looking forward to Andrew Little asking some very hard questions of Mr Matt McCarten Mr Paul Chalmers—Jacinda Ardern's campaign manager—and various other people who must know about this.The figure of $240000 is being thrown around at the moment because apparently that is what Mr McCarten thought the unions—in other words the very people who clean in this place the very people who undertake the work as union members—should be paying for this scheme. I think there are actually some really good questions about this that need to be asked and answered. But in the meantime this Government is getting on with the business of governing.When I look back at the Labour Party's problems you have to think—is it a conspiracy or a cock-up? I would have to say in this case it is both. That is why we just have to get on with the job of governing. In the inland revenue area of which I am very proud we are actually getting on with making people's lives a lot easier. All of those people in small businesses who do actually pay wages for the 30 to 40 hours a week that people work—unlike the Labour Party people—very soon from 1 April next year will be able to choose to not have to use provisional and terminal tax. They will not have to pay that any more. Instead they will be able to come on to a system very much like PAYE which is what all we salary and wage earners pay our tax through. So they will be able to decide every month. They will do their profit and loss and they will pay their tax based on that month's profit or loss. That means that at the end of the year there will be a bit of a wash-up but it will be nothing like the extreme financial difficulty that so many small-business people find themselves getting into particularly in their second year of business.All the wonderful things we have done in our Budget all the wonderful things we have been able to do as a Government all the wonderful things that businesses have been able to do themselves—this is in my opinion the No. 1 thing that will make the biggest difference to keeping businesses going particularly small businesses and encouraging innovation. But also let us not forget keeping people employed—keeping the people who are the salary and wage earners in a job because the business that is paying their wages is still going to be around past the second year.So these are the sorts of innovations we are doing in revenue. It is what we are doing in Government. It is making technology work for people and for New Zealanders rather than the other way round.