Harawira Hone: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Harawira Hone: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 21 February 2007. Volume:637;Page:7548. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
11.  
HONE HARAWIRA (Maori Party—Te Tai Tokerau) 
 to the  
Minister in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations 
: What did he mean when he said that “the Crown’s policy is that Landcorp properties are generally not available for use in settlements.” and in what situations would Landcorp property be available? 
Hon MARK BURTON (Minister in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations) 
: 
 Such property is generally not available for use in settlements because the Crown prioritises the use of other assets in settlements including those held in the Office of Treaty Settlements land bank specifically for use in Treaty settlements and of course Crown forest land. As to the second leg of the member’s question generally the Crown would look to the possible use of such property where existing holdings were insufficient to provide adequate or appropriate redress. 
Hone Harawira 
: Kia ora Madam Speaker. Where is the justice in the people who have lost 10000 hectares being told they can buy back their land when the 10-hectare block being offered for sale by Landcorp is worth $4 million and how would the Crown suggest the remaining 9990 hectares be purchased when it has offered a total compensation package to Ngati Kahu of only $8 million? 
Hon MARK BURTON 
: I would not suggest anything to Ngati Kahu in the course of the debate in this House or through question time but I would suggest that the duly mandated negotiators rejoin the Crown and continue negotiation. That is the place to engage in negotiation. 
Te Ururoa Flavell 
: Kia ora Madam Speaker. Kia ora tatou. What impact will the proposed sale by Landcorp of the Ngatea and Whenuakite properties have on iwi in the Hauraki region particularly in light of the findings of Judge Wainwright on 9 February 2007 that NgatiHei’s claims were generally well founded and that the Native Land Acts ultimately resulted in the tribe’s virtual landlessness? 
Hon MARK BURTON 
: I would suggest to Hauraki that it would be good to move forward to get into negotiation; of course they are currently not in negotiation. I can say to the member that the Crown already has significant assets available with which to enter into a negotiation process and potentially to use in redress. 
Christopher Finlayson 
: What downside to the Crown would there be were the Crown to make Landcorp properties generally available for use in Treaty settlements and would not a change in policy be consistent with the Prime Minister’s statement in the House last week that reconciliation between Crown and Maori matters? 
Hon MARK BURTON 
: If the member were to look at the difference between the legal framework around properties held by State-owned enterprises and other Crown-owned properties he would see there would be complications arising from his suggestion. What is more there is already in place a protection in section 27B of the State-Owned Enterprises Act that enables under appropriate circumstances such property to be used as redress. 
Hone Harawira 
: Kia ora Madam Speaker. Is the Minister aware that as with the foreshore and seabed all those lands in the Rangiputa Station are still Maori customary land and belong to Te Whanau Moana and Te Rorohurihapu; and why are the people of Ngati Kahu being asked to pay market rates for land that the Waitangi Tribunal found the Crown does not hold proven title to? 
Hon MARK BURTON 
: As I indicated to the member in an earlier response Ngati Kahu have mandated negotiators. The place to negotiate is face to face with the Crown and those mandated negotiators and not by proxy by non-mandated persons in this House. 
Te Ururoa Flavell 
: I seek leave to table the directions of the acting chairperson of the Waitangi Tribunal Judge Carrie Wainwright dated 9 February 2007 which stated that NgatiHei’s claims were well founded and that the Native Land Acts ultimately resulted in the tribe’s virtual landlessness. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House. 
Hone Harawira 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I would just like to point out that I am Ngati Kahu myself and as the elected representative of Te Tai Tokerau I am the mandated speaker in this House for the people of Ngati Kahu. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: It is not a point of order.