Tinetti JanJAN TINETTI (Labour): Thank you to the members so far who have made a contribution in this debate. I just thought it was probably timely to actually answer some of the questions that have been put here this afternoon. First of all I'd like to address Dr Parmar's contribution when she talked about how this bill is a minor changing of words. Actually this bill is making some pretty big changes in that we are identifying groups that must be consulted with with the National Education and Learning Priorities (NELPs). Now the reason for that—and my colleague Marja Lubeck asked why it is so important to consult. The reason for that is that this gives the education sector—it also gives children and young people and teachers and those that work within it and parents—surety that their voices will be heard in this particular setting of the National Education and Learning Priorities. This is the national statement in education. This is a really really important piece of work. To say that this is making minor changes is actually taking away from the importance of this particular piece of work. This ensures that the Minister will consult with these people.Now Dr Parmar also talked about the consultation with the groups in interest or can consult"—I'll just read the proper words there: "The Minister must make reasonable efforts to consult". I would advise Dr Parmar that she must read this amendment in consultation with the principal Act because this is adding to the principal Act the Education Act. It's not diluting; it's actually adding to. So it's not taking away from anything there.My colleague Jamie Strange and my colleague the Hon Peeni Henare both talked about what consultation looks like with certain organisations. One reason why this particular bill has not identified specific groups of people is that there has got to be a certain amount of fluidity around that consultation at the particular time that the NELPs are being created that the national statement is being put out there. So when you're talking about the national priorities the Minister wants to have the opportunity to then look with the sector at who the most appropriate groups are to actually consult with within those groups. The parent groups for example will be decided upon at the time in line with that national statement. So that's the reason why that has not completely identified exactly who those groups are. Also if we'd put those particular groups in specifically and named them now there would be other groups who had not presented to select committee who might think that they were being left out of the conversation. So it's important that we make that broad and at the time the Minister can then consult with those in the sector who are the most appropriate for that national statement.One point I want to pick up on is the point that the Hon Peeni Henare made around the disability sector. This is a really interesting point because in the disability sector I've had many many people contact me to say how grateful they are that they are being identified in this particular bill. In fact after the second reading I had a young person contact me who has a disorder on the autism spectrum who said that it brought him to tears because in his knowledge this was one of the first times in the education sector that there was a "must consult with the disability sector" in the work that we're doing. So again I think it needs to be broad for the sake of what the Minister comes up with for the national statement at the time but I'm delighted that we have identified those particular groups to consult with."