Wall LouisaLOUISA WALL (Labour—Manurewa): I actually want to follow on from my colleague Clare Curran and really focus on clause 5 Section 8 amended" because I am really—The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): Which she has just been talking about.LOUISA WALL: Yes but I am actually interested in how many of the 107 people that this legislation is now relevant to—because we want them captured so that we can list them on a sex offender register—have come from overseas jurisdictions. I am also interested in the number of people who are class 1 offenders. Class 1 offenders as we know are those who will be on the register for 8 years. They are enabling offences but they are also individuals with non-custodial sentences where a judge has ordered that they be monitored and added to the register. I think that we all should know who these people are. I also think that we should know what they have done. That is what the classes actually do. They are tiered. Class 2 offenders are people who have committed indecent assault and they have to be on the register for 15 years. Then class 3 offenders whom we would want to see on this register have committed sexual violation and have had sexual connection which means that they are on the register for life. I think that we are all entitled to know given that the Committee is in urgency how many are within those classes and how many are coming from overseas as my colleague Clare Curran highlighted. I would also like to know actually what regions these 107 people have come from. At the moment those people are not monitored by anybody because there is no requirement for them to go on the register—and that was the fundamental purpose of the primary piece of legislation. When people were released from prison or if they had received a non-custodial sentence and had conditions within 72 hours—and the Minister can correct me if I am wrong—of that release or at the direction of a judge or on arrival in New Zealand they were to alert the police to their address where they were working what memberships or clubs they had what car registration they had and all of their contact information because this is about monitoring where these people are in our community so that we can mitigate risk and make sure that the community is safe. What I know is that if they did not do that we actually have penalties in the legislation. They can go to jail for 1 to 2 years or if they tell lies they can be fined up to $4000. Given that the Committee is in urgency because there has been a mistake with the primary piece of legislation and this is amendment legislation that we have been told as of today is relevant to 107 people who have committed sex offences in New Zealand I think New Zealanders deserve to know where these people are and in fact if they are not on a register then what monitoring is being undertaken by Corrections and by the police. The other entities involved in this cross-Government initiative were Housing New Zealand and the Ministry of Social Development. As I explained earlier I can see why the Minister for Social Development based on that introduced the primary piece of legislation and why it has now been handed to the Minister of Police but given this is the only scrutiny available to the public and to the Opposition on this piece of legislation I actually think it is not unreasonable for the Minister of Police to answer those questions.In saying all of that we support the legislation. We support the legislation because we also support the register. Why do we support the register? Because we do not want people who have committed sex offences to repeat that offending. The whole intention of the primary legislation and the amendment legislation is to protect our children to protect our families to protect our communities and also to some degree to ensure that those offenders do not reoffend. We want to be reassured that they are placed in contexts that are going to enable their rehabilitation and their future participation in society. What we are not reassured by and what we know today is that there are 107 people whom we should be monitoring whose whereabouts everybody should know but we do not know where they are because they are not required to go on the register. I would also like to know based on the 72-hour notification period when these 107 people are going to be required to register. Is it when the legislation gets the Royal assent? What is going to happen to these people once this legislation is passed which we hope will be tonight? Thank you."