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Dunne Peter: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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9. 
Hon PETER DUNNE (Leader—United Future) 
 to the  
Minister of Transport 
: What factors led to the Government announcement last Wednesday to proceed with the construction of the Transmission Gully Highway as a public-private partnership? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Minister of Transport) 
: 
 Notwithstanding the valuable input and advocacy for the project from the member for Ohariu-Belmont the decision by Cabinet will bring certainty to the project which has been on the books— 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The Minister has just made up a seat that does not exist in the House. He cannot do that. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! I do not think it is that helpful to the order of the House. The Minister was answering a question. We do not need to be that pedantic. If every time members made mistakes in this House we stopped the House we would never get anywhere. 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: I am sorry Mr Speaker. I guess when you have been around as long as him you remember the names of old seats. Notwithstanding the great advocacy and the valuable input of the member of Parliament for Ohariu Cabinet sees that this decision will bring certainty for a project that has been on the books for many years. It fulfils a key policy initiative of the two confidence and supply agreements between National and United Future made in 2008 and 2011. In addition it will be a positive development that will significantly enhance the future economic growth of the wider Wellington region as well as delivering improved road safety to motorists. 
Hon Peter Dunne 
: Can the Minister therefore tell the House what the next steps to be taken to progress this project will be? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: The New Zealand Transport Agency is now moving to the next stages of procurement with a public-private partnership contract that will be awarded by the middle of 2014 and construction will begin soon afterwards. It is expected the road will be open by 2020. 
Hon Peter Dunne 
: Can the Minister also tell the House what reaction there has been to the announcement from regional leaders business groups and the wider community in the Wellington region? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: In the main the response has been very positive. Groups have highlighted the earlier start date economic benefits decreased congestion and an extra route into Wellington in case of an emergency. They have said all those are real positives. They include the Wellington chamber of commerce CentrePort the Road Transport Forum the Greater Wellington Regional Council and its chairman Fran Wilde and Porirua’s Labour mayor Nick Leggett who has previously pointed out the necessity for Transmission Gully to happen sooner rather than later. By contrast we have had Phil Twyford enthusiastically aligning himself with the Greens to oppose this project.
Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! I apologise to the right honourable member. The House is being particularly unruly today. I accept some days are like that. Members have got a bit of a head of steam up over this issue and I accept that because it is a topical current issue. But the House has to behave in a reasonable manner and it is not reasonable at the moment.
Vote: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That schedule 2 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 60 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; Mana 1. 
Schedule 2 as amended agreed to.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 My question is to the Minister responsible for Whanau Ora—[ 
Interruption 
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Graham Kennedy: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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7. 
Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green) 
 to the  
Minister for Climate Change Issues 
: What projections if any have been done on the impact of his amendments to the Emissions Trading Scheme on forestry? 
Hon TIM GROSER (Minister for Climate Change Issues) 
: 
 None. I have not received formal advice containing specific projections. There are good reasons for this. Principal amongst them is the fact that of the recent changes the one change that would be likely to have a substantial impact on forestry over time is the introduction of offsetting but it is impossible to quantify at this stage the implications for our emissions projections. 
Dr Kennedy Graham 
: Is he concerned by reports that forest nurseries have cut back on planting millions of trees this season because the bottom has fallen out of the emissions trading scheme and is he concerned that given the lack of incentives in the scheme now we are facing another chainsaw massacre with forestry jobs at risk? 
Hon TIM GROSER 
: Last year we had deforestation I am told of around 3000 hectares. The bottom has fallen out of the international price not the emissions trading scheme—the structure remains fully in place. 
Dr Kennedy Graham 
: What plan does he have for achieving his Government’s emission reduction targets given that he gutted the emissions trading scheme this month and the low carbon price means foresters are not planting enough trees to offset our increasing emissions; what is his plan? 
Hon TIM GROSER 
: It is the Government’s plan to maintain the emissions trading scheme. The decisions that Cabinet took recently were not to accelerate it at this point in time. So that is the plan and we need to stick with that long-term plan. 
Dr Kennedy Graham 
: I seek leave to table a report showing that New Zealand’s net emissions— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! What is the source of the report? 
Dr Kennedy Graham 
: The annual report of the Ministry for the Environment. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: No that is readily available to all members. 
Dr Kennedy Graham 
: Are two “Fossil of the Day” awards on climate change at Doha enough or is the Minister gunning for more with his Rolls Royce emissions trading scheme with fewer trees prompting nursery owner Kevin Strawbridge to conclude: “Government intervention is the problem. It gives free carbon credits to heavy emitters and allows in these cheap foreign credits.”? 
Hon TIM GROSER 
: We receive these Fossil awards at every single ministerial conference. It is about as predictable as the punchline to a Tui billboard ad.
Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! Look I apologise to Dr Russel Norman. These interjections must please become more reasonable.
Norman Russel: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Norman Russel: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Dr RUSSEL NORMAN (Co-Leader—Green) 
: 
 Thank you Mr Speaker. [ 
Interruption 
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Tisch Lindsay: Legislation Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am sorry to interrupt the honourable member. The time has come for me to report progress. 
Progress reported. 
Report adopted.
Vote: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill be now read a second time. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 59 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Bill read a second time.
Upston Louise: Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupo) 
: 
 I would like to take the final call on this bill the Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill. I have been a bit bothered by some of the contributions that we have heard in this debate but like my colleague Katrina Shanks I think the one that disturbed me the most was the suggestion that women are not able to get ahead in their careers and to take on the role of Queen’s Counsel. For a party that supports—or purports to be the party for—gender advancement I was somewhat shocked that the Opposition would even suggest that women are not capable are not able or would not be in a position because of having babies to adequately be a Queen’s Counsel— 
Charles Chauvel 
: You know that’s not what I said. 
LOUISE UPSTON 
: It was very close to that line Mr Chauvel as well as a whole range of personal insults that were hurled across at the female members of the National Government. 
The Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill is a restoration of something that the Labour Government changed without really any reference to the lawyers themselves. This is something that the National Government is putting in place based on the suggestions of the lawyers themselves. The Minister of Justice spoke very eloquently in the third reading of this bill and I am proud to say that I support it.
O'Connor Simon: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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SIMON O’CONNOR (National—Tamaki) 
: 
 This bill the Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill should pass and it is certainly not a shameful piece of legislation. We have heard a lot of talk about democracy and constitutional stuff and it has to be said from someone who knows a bit about constitutional stuff—because you know I use the technical term—it is absolutely all made up. It is wonderful “shameful” rhetoric but to use those words “illogical” “wrong-headed” and “arrogant”—those are the arguments that we have been hearing from the Opposition. 
My electorate—it is just one part of Auckland Tamaki—is facing almost an average of 7.6 percent rate increases year after year; the most was 10 percent. To fund what? To fund documents pages long with sort of waffling text. Others I think on the waste management of Auckland at the moment want to integrate metaphysical and religious reasons for how we should be running our waste in Auckland. That is not what government is about. We have heard about the importance of democracy. We in the National Government have been listening to the people in our constituencies across New Zealand who have had enough of councils running around not following their core purposes and spending as if their ratepayers their taxpayers are eftpos cards. 
I return again to my electorate. They have said to me person after person week after week that they have had enough of local councils continuing to spend without restriction and to spend in ways that are not within the core purposes of what councils are about. So this is a democratic action. This is the National Government listening to the people and exercising its democratic mandate to make sure that councils operate democratically fairly and in a way that is entirely appropriate. 
This is good constitutional work. This is good democratic work. This is about listening to people and that is what this Government is about.
Barry Maggie: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore) 
: 
 To the member who has just resumed his seat and took a call on this Andrew Williams I say that we need to put in context his contribution. He was so successful in his previous role! He was what? He was the lowest-polling mayoral candidate below everybody else. Nor was he elected for the local health board. So when we look at his authority when we look at his ability to actually convince the people of the North Shore of his enormous knowledge of local body politics and his enormous authority he fails utterly and dismally. Let the record stand that this is not the kind of man whom people listen to or believe in. That was proved on the North Shore. He is hardly an authority. 
When we look at what this bill the Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill is trying to do—others have outlined its provisions—we see it is very much about the ratepayers and about the extraordinary amount of extra spending that has come in since 2002. We campaigned consistently against it and we will continue to because of the extraordinary amount of extra spending that has come into effect since the four well-beings came in. In the past 10 years council debt has quadrupled from $2 billion to $8 billion and council rates have gone up on average by a very large amount indeed 7 percent a year far outstripping inflation. 
This has to stop. The ratepayers of New Zealand deserve better and this Government is going to deliver these reforms. They will be able to make councils more fiscally responsible. They will strengthen council governance provisions and streamline council reorganisation processes. This is not a difficult concept to grasp. I believe that many of the councils and local authorities are doing a good job and will do an even better job once these go through. 
I must say too—it is irresistible really—that when I listened to the phrases dripping from the lips of the member for Te Atatu I thought “ ‘Shallow populism’—oh really?”. That is something he knows a great deal about. “Pretending to make a difference”—that is also an area of expertise. Perhaps when Phil Twyford is no longer the member for Te Atatu he can pursue a career on the stage because he certainly does a very convincing line in faux outrage. I commend this bill to the House. Thank you.
Roy Eric: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Order! And it is certainly not right that the member parades that as a point of order. That is not right either.
Goldsmith Paul: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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PAUL GOLDSMITH (National) 
: 
 We heard a lot of submissions on this bill the Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill in the Local Government and Environment Committee and I congratulate the chair Nicky Wagner on conducting that in an appropriate fashion. 
It was a very thorough process and we heard a lot of incumbent mayors and councillors coming along to tell us—in the main their message was: “There is no problem. Leave us alone. Let us continue what we are doing.” We also heard from many groups of ratepayers and they had a different story. I remember the Howick Residents and Ratepayers Association. An elderly woman at the select committee hearing was in tears about the relentless increase in rates that she has had to pay on a fixed income and that she would be forced from her home. So I am bound to say I had a lot more sympathy for those ratepayers. 
Hon Annette King 
: There were very few of them who came to the select committee. 
PAUL GOLDSMITH 
: There were quite a large number of them. Those struggling ratepayers have no choice. They have to pay those rates. 
I am amazed to hear from members on the other side of the House that there is no issue. “There is no issue.” they keep telling us. Well since 2002 when these mysterious four well-beings came into place council debt has quadrupled from $2 billion to $8 billion and over the same period council rates have gone up on average 7 percent per year far outstripping inflation. They might say: “Oh well it’s only 7 percent.” Well inflation has been a lot less than that and we cannot continue to do it. 
We hear the defenders of big spending all say: “Oh there’s no evidence that these four well-beings have led to an expansion into new areas.” Well if that is the case if they want any evidence take a look at this document I am holding. This document is not a German art photo book. It is the Auckland Plan. I will briefly if I can indulge the House very briefly just tell members to look at the sorts of things they are getting into here: ensuring all Auckland children can have access to a primary school within 30 minutes. Well that is crucial stuff! Thank goodness we have got Auckland Council focused on that! 
That is why we need to get this focus back and that is why this bill is the sort of stuff—[ 
Interruption 
] Well I think we need to move on but it is important that this bill is passed as quickly as possible. I stand for this bill and I think it is an appropriate one that will help serve the communities of Auckland and throughout New Zealand in local government in the best possible way. Thank you very much.
Roy Eric: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: This is a split call—Raymond Huo 5 minutes. 
David Bennett 
: Here are the big guns!
Twyford Phil: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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PHIL TWYFORD (Labour—Te Atatu) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. It does not seem right that there are no Ministers taking calls in this debate—
Dean Jacqui: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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Dean Jacqui: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki) 
: 
 The member who has just resumed her seat the Hon Annette King is very concerned about what the local government sector wants. Let us though talk about what ratepayers want. Ratepayers want reasonable rates and they want those rates well spent. Ratepayers want their local authority to provide a good supply of clean safe drinking-water. They want reliable stormwater and reliable sewerage. Ratepayers want footpaths they want kerb and channel and they want their potholes fixed. Ratepayers want reasonable library charges they want meeting halls they want swimming pools they want recreational facilities they want their building permits and their liquor licences processed in an efficient and timely manner they want playing fields and they want public gardens. Ratepayers are never happy with the sum on their rate demand—that includes me and probably my colleagues. And they are very clear: they want their rates spent responsibly and if they choose to they want to have a say on how that money should be spent. 
The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill delivers the framework for all those services that the ratepayers want. The bill draws the focus back on to providing local infrastructure local public services and local regulatory functions. That is what ratepayers want. The refocusing of the purpose of local government has caused much consternation within the local government sector with the misinformed view that removal of the four well-beings will prevent the councils from doing anything new or that if they propose a new activity it will tend to be endlessly challenged through the courts. Well my belief is that that expressed fear is more about what they want rather than what is good for their ratepayers. 
Section 11A of the Local Government Act 2002 “Core services to be considered in performing role” states—and I will read it—“In performing its role a local authority must have particular regard to the contribution that the following core services make to its communities:”. They are listed as network infrastructure public transport services solid waste the avoidance or mitigation of natural hazards and libraries museums reserves recreational facilities and other community infrastructure. Section 11A of the Local Government Act 2002 is not amended by this bill and those expressed fears from the local government sector are unfounded. The local government reforms will provide clarity and efficiency around the role of the councils stronger governance and more responsible financial management. 
Local government like central government needs to deliver better services to all New Zealanders whether they are taxpayers or ratepayers within tight financial constraints. The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill delivers and I commend it to the House at its second reading.
Vote: Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bill read a third time.
Ngaro Alfred: Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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ALFRED NGARO (National) 
: 
 I stand in support of the Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill. I also do want to acknowledge from the last term of this Government both the Minister of Justice and the Justice and Electoral Committee for their fine work and their deliberations. I was not a part of those deliberations but I do trust their wisdom and their experience which has brought us to this point where we are now here in the third reading of this bill. 
This bill is about reinstating the status and independence for the top rank of advocates in New Zealand. Trust in the justice sector is so important as is acknowledgment of those who have worked tirelessly and hard to ensure that they advocate in the best possible way. It is important that we acknowledge and recognise them for this as well. 
 In their deliberations the Minister and the select committee have listened carefully to the legal profession and this bill is in response to the profession’s concerns that the title of Senior Counsel created in 2008 under the previous Government does not adequately reflect the nature and the status of the rank. So we are taking steps to protect the essential independence of the Inner Bar. The looser rules for eligibility as Senior Counsel introduced by the previous Government threatened to dilute the independence of our most senior advocates. Restoring in particular the independence of Queen’s Counsel in New Zealand reflects the public purpose and status of this position as well. The bill contains savings and transitional provisions in relation to practice arrangements entered into by Senior Counsel and Queen’s Counsel as well. 
This is a bill that ensures that and addresses these concerns. I commend this bill to the House.
Blue Jackie: Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Dr JACKIE BLUE (National) 
: 
 I am pleased to speak to the third reading of the Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill. The bill has been welcomed by the profession and surely they are in the best position to judge it. People may ask well what is in a name? There is plenty in a name. I can recall in the last term of Parliament when enrolled nurses lost that title to something like health care assistants. When that happened there was a huge outcry from that profession. They felt demoralised and unworthy. There was confusion and many people opted out of the training scheme. That name got restored as it should have done. Tony Ryall has widened the scope and that has been welcomed. So there is plenty in a name. 
The primary purpose of this bill is to restore the rank of Queen’s Counsel and restrict eligibility for appointment to that rank to barristers sole to retain independence. The New Zealand Law Society commented in its submission that the change to Senior Counsel was driven by ideology and was not in response to any pressing change. I ask you: if it was not broken why fix it? The Bar Association supported the return to this historical status of the rank of QC. The title of QC has a proud history. It is recognised internationally and it really signifies and identifies that that particular practitioner is at the top of their profession. I commend the bill to the House. Thank you.
Borrows Chester: Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Hon CHESTER BORROWS (Associate Minister of Justice) 
on behalf of the Minister of Justice: I move that the Lawyers—
Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: I apologise to the honourable member asking the question. Could the benches on my left on this occasion please be a little more reasonable with their interjections. Scott Simpson question No. 12.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 In the light of answers given by Mr Guy the Minister of Immigration today to question 6 I seek leave to table Wednesday 31 August 2011— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! What is the document? 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: It is  
traveltrade 
 and it is an article confirming that China Southern Airlines— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Would the member please tell the House the source of the document. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: Yes.  
Traveltrade 
 is a magazine exclusive to the industry—I will give you the date; Wednesday 31 August 2011—confirming that Skycity is in conversation with China Southern Airlines and the casino is in talks about making the visa process easier. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 







Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
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10. 
Dr PAUL HUTCHISON (National—Hunua) 
 to the  
Associate Minister of Health 
: What is the Government doing to ensure the ongoing provision of hospice services in our communities? 
Hon JO GOODHEW (Associate Minister of Health) 
: 
 Yesterday I announced that the Boost Hospice Care funding will be rolled over for a further 2 years. The current $15 million per year funding boost will now continue until 2015 to secure this vital service for our communities. Hospices provide terminally ill people and their families with the services and support they need. In many communities hospices provide palliative care in people’s homes as well as at in-patient facilities. 
Dr Paul Hutchison 
: What is the Boost Hospice Care funding? 
Hon JO GOODHEW 
: The Boost Hospice Care funding was introduced in 2009 and gave hospices an additional $60 million over the 4 years to June 2013 to help them expand care and services and meet financial challenges. This increased the proportion of average hospice funding provided by the Government from 50 percent to 70 percent. The funding rollover I announced yesterday will therefore bring this Government’s total additional investment in palliative care to $90 million. 
Iain Lees-Galloway 
: Is she aware that the Ministry of Health plans to cease funding the national coordination office of Liverpool Care Pathway based at Arohanui Hospice which ensures consistency of palliative care in hospices and the over 300 other settings including hospitals and rest homes in which palliative care is delivered; and will she work with the ministry to reverse that decision? 
Hon JO GOODHEW 
: From memory I am aware that the roll-out of the Liverpool Care Pathway was over a predetermined number of years. I am aware that the funding is coming to a close and that there has been a very clear signal sent to the group that actually coordinates it centrally that this funding will come to a close. Nevertheless I do want to take this opportunity to say that it has done a sterling job and that its success has shown that this Liverpool Care Pathway is in fact working very very well around the country and that is where it needs to be—around the country rather than in head office.
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8. 
CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National) 
 to the  
Minister for the Environment 
: What recent announcements has she made in relation to the Community Environment Fund? 
Hon AMY ADAMS (Minister for the Environment) 
: 
 This week I was pleased to announce that 12 regional environment centres from around New Zealand will receive more than $1.4 million from the Government’s Community Environment Fund to provide practical ways of caring for their environment at a local level including courses on composting and growing vegetables; working with children; and community planting days. Environment centres play an important role in promoting environmental action in their communities and I am proud to say that this Government has nearly doubled their funding from that received under the previous Labour-Green Government. 
Chris Auchinvole 
: What are some examples of work the environmental centres do? 
Hon AMY ADAMS 
: Environment centres provide advice and information and a wide range of services to their communities particularly around awareness raising waste reduction and recycling. One example is the environment centre in Nelson which I visited recently. It runs a waste education service programme delivering education to schools and early education centres. Another is the environment centre on Auckland’s North Shore with its Kaipatiki Project growing about 20000 new native plants every year and with 600 volunteers contributing. I am very pleased that the National-led Government has now contributed over $2.8 million to these centres and their work.
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5. 
MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) 
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Minister for Social Development 
: How will the new Child Protect Line discussed in the Government’s White Paper for Vulnerable Children better protect New Zealand’s children? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 As part of the Government’s white paper we will be introducing the new Child Protect line. It will provide a single point of contact to report any concerns people have about children and young people. Those with concerns about children who are not sure whether it is serious enough to ring Child Youth and Family will be able to ring this line with those concerns and seek advice. This is something that people said through the submission process they really wanted. 
Mark Mitchell 
: Who will be operating the phone line and answering these calls? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: The Child Protect line will have trained professionals answering the phone line just like we have now for 111 calls. As well as being able to report suspected child abuse or neglect people can seek help and referrals to a comprehensive range of social and parenting services. The new Child Protect line will also be able to escalate calls as necessary. 
Mark Mitchell 
: How will calls be managed through the Child Protect line? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: This will make a real difference for children. At the moment for the calls that Child Youth and Family cannot deal with it tries to escalate them down to non-governmental organisations. The difference here is that you will have a line that is able to escalate up and as a consequence get the right people working with the right children.
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Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 I understand that that matter is still under discussion at the Business Committee.
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Mallard Trevor: Business Statement 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 Can I just ask the Deputy Leader of the House whether any thought has been given yet to the date for the Alcohol Reform Bill coming back?
Tolley Anne: Business Statement 
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Tolley Anne: Business Statement 
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Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House) 
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 Next week the House is in a 1-week adjournment. When the House resumes on Tuesday 27 November the Government will look to progress the Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill the Advanced Technology Institute Bill and a number of first readings on the Order Paper including the Human Rights Amendment Bill and the Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill.
Urgent Debates Declined — KiwiRail—Partial Sale of Hillside Workshops 
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Urgent Debates Declined 
KiwiRail—Partial Sale of Hillside Workshops 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Honourable members I have received a letter from Clare Curran seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the KiwiRail decision to sell part of Dunedin’s Hillside railway workshops. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving administrative responsibility of the Government. However the business of the House should not be set aside just because an announcement has been made. There must be an element of urgency for the matter to take precedence over other business. There will be other occasions on which this matter can be debated. Members may raise such matters of concern to them during the general debate or in the upcoming financial reviews in select committees. The application is therefore declined.
Business Statement 
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Business Statement 
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Thursday 15 November 2012 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
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Business Statement 
Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 Next week the House is in a 1-week adjournment. When the House resumes on Tuesday 27 November the Government will look to progress the Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill the Advanced Technology Institute Bill and a number of first readings on the Order Paper including the Human Rights Amendment Bill and the Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 Can I just ask the Deputy Leader of the House whether any thought has been given yet to the date for the Alcohol Reform Bill coming back? 
Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 I understand that that matter is still under discussion at the Business Committee.
Chauvel Charles: Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Chauvel Charles: Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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CHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. How is it in order for the Minister responsible for the bill to walk out of the House before you give the call and then to have a substitute Minister be responsible for the carriage of the third reading? 
Mr SPEAKER 
: It is not a bad point the member raises. That is a sloppy performance. There is nothing wrong with another Minister taking charge of a bill. However the Minister responsible for the bill should not be in the House at the time. If the Minister responsible—[ 
Interruption 
] We need to sort out what is going on here. If the Minister responsible for the bill is going to take the call I will call the Hon Judith Collins.
Simpson Scott: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel) 
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 My question is to the Associate Minister of Transport and asks: what progress can he report on the Government’s Vehicle Licensing—[ 
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Smith Lockwood: Urgent Debates Declined — KiwiRail—Partial Sale of Hillside Workshops 
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Smith Lockwood: Urgent Debates Declined — KiwiRail—Partial Sale of Hillside Workshops 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Honourable members I have received a letter from Clare Curran seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the KiwiRail decision to sell part of Dunedin’s Hillside railway workshops. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving administrative responsibility of the Government. However the business of the House should not be set aside just because an announcement has been made. There must be an element of urgency for the matter to take precedence over other business. There will be other occasions on which this matter can be debated. Members may raise such matters of concern to them during the general debate or in the upcoming financial reviews in select committees. The application is therefore declined.
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Simpson Scott: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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12. 
SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel) 
 to the  
Associate Minister of Transport 
: What progress can he report on the Government’s Vehicle Licensing Reform Project? 
Hon SIMON BRIDGES (Associate Minister of Transport) 
: 
 There has been a fantastic response to the public consultation on vehicle licensing reform. Over the 6-week consultation period some 4600 submissions were received. I want to thank the public for those and assure them that they are being carefully considered and that they will go into the mix in the final decision that the Government makes in due course. 
Scott Simpson 
: Why would the vehicle licensing systems in New Zealand benefit from reform? 
Hon SIMON BRIDGES 
: Well the current system is many decades old. A huge amount has changed technologically. We have one of the most—if not the most—frequent vehicle inspection regimes in the world and I am confident that for Kiwis we can save them time and money while also maintaining and perhaps even improving safety outcomes.
Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! The senior Opposition whip should know better than that.
Simpson Scott: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Simpson Scott: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel) 
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 Thank you. Mr Speaker—[ 
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Roy Eric: Ngati Whatua Orakei Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I call Hone Harawira—10 minutes.
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The Hon Shane Jones—5 minutes.
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Roy Eric: Ngati Whatua Orakei Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: We come now to two split calls. It will be National and Mana then Mana and Labour.
Tisch Lindsay: Ngati Whatua Orakei Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
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Tisch Lindsay: Ngati Whatua Orakei Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am sorry to interrupt the honourable member. His time has expired.
Robertson H V Ross: Ngati Manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: The House is resumed.
Vote: Ngati Manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Ngati Manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 104 
New Zealand National 58; New Zealand Labour 32; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; Mana 1; United Future 1. 
Abstentions 14 
Green Party 14. 
Bill read a third time. 
Waiata
Harawira Hone: Ngati Manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
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Harawira Hone: Ngati Manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
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HONE HARAWIRA (Leader—Mana) 
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 Tena koe Mr Speaker. Huri rauna kia ora tatou katoa. He korero tuatahi mihi atu ki a koe e te matua Laly kua tae ora mai i roto i a tatou i tenei ra. No reira tena koe koutou ano ra e Ngati Manuhiri. Kite au i a koutou kite anoki au i ahau ano. No reira tena koutou kua tae mai i tenei ra me te mihi anoki ki nga mahi kua mahingia nei i nga tau tini kua pahure ake nei kia tae mai ai ki te kaupapa o te ra nei mo te whakatau i tetahi wahanga iti mo Ngati Manuhiri. Engari taku ki a koutou ki a tatou ano kia kaua e whakaarohia kua mutu te hikoi i tenei ra. He timatanga noa iho mo a tatou tamariki mokopuna a nga ra kei te haere mai. No reira tena koutou kia ora tatou. 
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Greetings throughout to us all. The first point of comment is to acknowledge you the father figure Laly; you have arrived here safely amongst us today. Accordingly I greet you and you again collectively Ngati Manuhiri. To see you all there is to see myself again as well. So acknowledgments to you collectively who have arrived here today and a tribute as well for the work done over the many past years to arrive at the matter at hand today to settle a small part for Ngati Manuhiri. But mine to you and us collectively once more do not think that the journey has ended today. It is only a beginning for our children and grandchildren in the future. So good on you and us collectively. 
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I do not have that much to say. I simply make the point that although we may have differences in this House one thing I do know and one thing I truly believe—and am quite sure you believe too Mooks—is that the Treaty settlement process was never actually set up to ensure justice for us. The fact that most settlements struggle to rise above 3 percent of the value of the claim confirms that. So although there may not have been rousing applause for the comments made by my tuahine Metiria Turei the principle she raised which is that our future is determined by our willingness to work with one another to ensure a positive future not just for our children but for all of our children is the only way to go. 
Me mihi au ki a koutou i tenei ra. He ra nui tenei mo Ngati Manuhiri mo tatou katoa hoki o roto o Te Tai Tokerau tena koutou tena koutou huri atu huri noa kia ora tatou katoa. 
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I must salute you collectively today. This is a great day for Ngati Manuhiri and for all of us in Northland so congratulations and well done to you collectively throughout and around and compliments to us all. 
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