SpeechHon ALFRED NGARO (National): Thank you Madam Chair. The one part of that speech from Jan Logie that I did agree with was that this country this nation needs strong whānau and strong family at the core of that yet I find it ironic that on one hand the rhetoric of what is being spoken is not the reality of what is acted out in this House. I recall the fact that this Government—and this is part of that annual review and focus—removed the eligibility or the discretion or the mandate to be able to name the father of the child for a young woman a young mother—Hon Member: The requirement. Hon ALFRED NGARO: —or a mother. They removed it—the requirement. Now in removing the requirement for that it was because the fact is the burden of proof was not there that it was actually working but they'd forgotten the essential principle about whānau and family. What that has done now is it has basically condemned another generation of children to having fatherless families in our communities and in our whānau and family. It was a mechanism to hold to account—that's what it was. There was a discretion already there available that if there were issues of concern or if there were risk factors they could declare those so there was no harm. But under this Government what we've done now is we've continued to have policies on one hand that say we want strong families but on the other we remove those principles of fathers taking their responsibility especially in this case. I believe that that was wrong. In times like this in crisis the best of New Zealanders—the best of a people and its place—often shows itself and I just want to acknowledge the fact that as a country we all said that we are all in this to deal with this issue. We have differing views of how we do that but we all put our best efforts forward. During this period of 4½ to 5 weeks one of the most precious moments I had was actually being with a local service provider who was providing services of food parcels. In the 4 to 4½ weeks they delivered over 3500 food parcels. I was proud to say I was able to become a volunteer—an essential driver—and I was able to go to those homes. While we sat and we packed and we delivered there were moments where we stopped and we reflected and I remember one of the providers saying to me—I said to them So what do you see in regards to the direction of where the country is going where we're being governed and led?" He said "There's a concern where we have now bought into a dependency model rather than an empowerment model." He said that the situation that we're in when we talk about those who are currently there is that—and this is not about a blame game or judgment on those that are there. But what we've now bought into is a dependency model not an empowerment model and a number of the issues that we've talked about are there as well. How is that dependency? When we don't set targets to know where we're aiming to make a difference then how do we know that we've achieved anything? Under this Government and previously—this is all part of that annual review—we removed all the better public health service targets. We do not know or hold them to account. This was not the people out in the street or in our communities family whānau and home; this was Government agencies who are commissioned with one task which was to do the best they could for the people of this nation. We now no longer have a target in that case. For the Minister that is here she has an associate ministerial role around Pacific people. Let's take one example—because it all affects the annual reviews—around the Pacific peoples and one of them was around the target in regards to increasing the levels of income and wealth for our Pasifika communities. One of the areas under that target was with the Pacific Business Trust. Here's the target that they set and it wasn't even a target. They had been engaging with 140 businesses—that's it for the whole of the year. I said "Was that aspirational?" and they said "Well that's the best that we can do." How many businesses do we have? We have over 500000 small to medium sized enterprises (SMEs) in this nation. Pasifika make up 5 percent of those SMEs—that's around about 20000 businesses who are people of Pacific descent. We've only got 140. What's the reasons why? Here's what they said: "We need more evaluation and we need more research." That has been almost the "Kumbaya" of this Government. That has been the chant: more research more evaluation more advisory committees. When we look at the annual reviews and when we see what we have got to come up with there are no targets. There are no achievements that tell this country that we are empowering and being aspirational as a country for the things that we want to achieve and more importantly we are confining this nation to a level of dependency that will make it difficult and make more of us struggle in this nation. I would have to say that when I look at these annual reviews whether they be around Oranga Tamariki or the lack of engagement with Māori and when I look at the Pasifika peoples and the lack of targets that are there to show that we are aspirational to make a difference I believe that what will happen and what will be the judgment of the day come election to this Government—what have they achieved? They won't be able to tell us what they have achieved because they have set no targets. No targets means no outcomes and no outcomes means we're worse off as a nation and as a people in this country. Thank you Madam Chair. CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): OK so is that the Ministry of Social Development? We move on to the Hon Iain Lees-Galloway."