Kaye NikkiHon NIKKI KAYE (National—Auckland Central): I'm delighted to have a call on this important part of the bill Consequential amendments to other enactments". Now I want the Minister in the chair Chris Hipkins to answer some questions for me around this. If you go back to the departmental report and you look at the submissions some people might be listening to this debate and be thinking "Hang on it only applies to a couple of clauses around the Teaching Council Rules effectively changing from the Education Council Rules." but let me tell you this: we heard actually a number of submissions around this language.I just want to quote some of the submissions and I want the Minister to comment on why it is that the officials didn't land with "Teachers Council" rather than "Teaching Council". Actually this was something that David Graham as a submitter raised in submissions and it is directly relevant to these consequential amendments because we are being required through this legislation to change the "Education Council Rules" to the "Teaching Council Rules" and he dealt with this specifically in his submission. Officials basically submitted that there is a big difference between "Teachers Council" and "Teaching Council" in that "Teaching Council" enables a much more encompassing set of rules around leadership and advocacy—not just teachers. So this is quite an important part. It is important because it's bringing in not just teachers but a whole lot of other education sector workers. So I want the Minister to comment on that.The next thing that I want the Minister to comment on—and again it's dealt with in a number of submissions and it was dealt with in the committee in the departmental report—is around this issue of inserting as we have done in terms of the bill "Teaching Council of Aotearoa". Why is "Aotearoa" not mentioned now in the "Teaching Council Rules" and should it be? Why is it that it's just in the title of the bill and not actually in the "Teaching Council Rules"? This was actually raised as part of—the Minister's laughing but again I'm looking at the departmental report. One of the reasons—and this is what was quoted to us—is that "It is Government policy to change the full legal name of the Education Council to the Teaching Council of Aotearoa New Zealand. Adding 'New Zealand' to the name of the Teaching Council of Aotearoa would better reflect the bicultural nature of Aotearoa New Zealand." How important is that? How important is that this week when we are debating the important aspects of Māori language? We've heard members in this House talking about that this week. So I just would love the Minister to answer the question as to why it is the title change but then when it comes to the Teaching Council Rules that also hasn't been dealt with.We're going to get into this when we have adequate time to debate new Part 5B in schedule 1 which is around the transition but it does actually relate to these consequential amendments and that is this issue of cost. It is relevant. It is not OK for the Minister to stand up and say "Hang on this isn't relevant to consequential amendments." It is because the whole point of these consequential amendments is to go and change a whole lot of other provisions in law which may add costs because as Simeon Brown has quite clearly pointed out it's so wide.This part of the bill says "every reference in any enactment" and we already are told—and it's in again all of the advice from officials—they can't tell us how much the election processes will actually cost as a result of this legislation. They've gone and had a look at other councils but they can't actually confirm that. They can sort of tell us that adding additional members will cost between $15000 and $18000 but now in this part we're being required to amend—let's just look at the wording again—"every reference in any enactment".We already know this thing is going to cost $700000. We've got some unknown costs but I would really value the Minister potentially walking us through—and particularly I'd like him to comment on the amendment around sections 357 and 368 of the Act and what that specifically will mean in terms of costs. It is important to this House when we're dealing with a situation where people are saying we need to spend more in certain areas in education—and again this was raised in committee. People were saying in committee "We would rather money is spent on additional learning support"—yes Tracey Martin—"than on rebranding this council and potentially changing the council rules.""