Martin Tracey: Third Readings —Text is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMartin Tracey: Third Readings —[Sitting date: 02 April 2015. Volume:704;Page:2897. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TRACEY MARTIN (NZ First):I rise on behalf of New Zealand First to make a short contribution to the debate on this legislation. New Zealand First will be supporting these bills. At the second reading of the original bill however my colleague Denis O’Rourke quite clearly outlined our reservations and our concerns. Interestingly enough although I admire Catherine Delahunty as a hard-working member of this House the reasons articulated by Mr O’Rourke were the complete opposite of hers.Mr O’Rourke articulated New Zealand First’s belief that there is a need for severe if not more severe punishments inside this sort of legislation. We base that upon the concept of the invisible man. It is a concept that has been talked about since the internet has been around. If human beings believe they are invisible and will not get caught then there are some very strange things that they will do there are some very strange places that they will go to and there are some behaviours that they will perform that they would never perform if they thought they were going to be seen—e.g. the invisible part—or if they thought they were going to get caught. And then in terms of getting caught they have to weigh up in their own minds whether getting caught and the punishment is worth taking this chance.So for us in New Zealand First this issue is about the invisible man theory and it is about updating several pieces of legislation to address what the Minister quite clearly articulated as issues that have risen in magnitude since the invention and widespread use of the internet. So New Zealand First will be supporting the legislation. We would like it to go further in certain places. I want to acknowledge the Minister’s explanation of her Supplementary Order Paper at the Committee stage for two reasons.One is the ability for recognition with the ACC in respect of mental injury. I think that if the Roast Busters case highlighted one area where we have got some issues it is that although those young ladies suffered trauma they could not access trauma support—special access to counselling had to be provided. Because no actual crime was committed and no case was brought they could not under current pathways access ACC or access trauma support. In a way that Supplementary Order Paper recognises mental injury from child grooming and other situations that take place that are objectionable through this medium. The second thing that the Minister’s Supplementary Order Paper did was close this loophole about New Zealanders who assist foreigners to perform such acts or take part in such acts overseas. That Supplementary Order Paper is a lot to put in a piece of legislation at the Committee stage so I certainly appreciated the Minister standing and speaking on those things.At the time of the Committee stage I also mentioned—as did my Labour colleague Clare Curran—the Harmful Digital Communications Bill. We are updating modernising and amending several pieces of legislation with that bill and we do need to make sure that there is a coordinated line in how we are going to treat this across all pieces of legislation. I hope to have further discussion with the Minister Amy Adams around the Harmful Digital Communications Bill before it returns to the House in terms of whether these changes actually provide the sentencing mechanism required inside these other pieces of legislation so that perhaps in the Harmful Digital Communications Bill we can set in place the Approved Agency and we can set in place the requirements of the service providers—the take-down notices and those other things.But possibly we do not need to create another sentencing regime because they can be covered under these bills. That is a conversation I would very much like to have with the Minister going forward. However we believe this is legislation that must be here and New Zealand First will support it. We would have liked to see it go further but we will support it as we go on. Kia ora.