McKelvie IanIAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei): Thank you Madam Speaker. It took me two hours to get a call from you this morning—two minutes this afternoon! Ha ha! This bill—Greg O'Connor: It'll take you two days next time.IAN McKELVIE: Ha ha! Well there shouldn't be interjections from the opposite side of the House Madam Speaker because this morning I was walking across the pedestrian crossing in the half dark and in the mirage of the half dark I saw what I thought was an offensive item for a start but it wasn't at all. It was Greg O'Connor. Ha ha! But to be quite serious—Greg O'Connor: I thought you were having a heart attack.IAN McKELVIE: Ha ha! Close to it—close to it. I've been wearing this mask all day. Back to the bill Madam Speaker—ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): Oh good.IAN McKELVIE: —and I have to take a call on the third reading of the Films Videos and Publications Classification (Urgent Interim Classification of Publications and Prevention of Online Harm) Amendment Bill which fortunately will morph into I think the Films Videos and Publications Classification Act in due course. But this bill we opposed at first reading and we oppose it for a number of reasons: one that there were some quite significant concerns and actually we weren't the only party in the House to oppose it about the way it was put together and I guess the security of people's information and how exactly we would go about securing people's integrity or the ability of them to preserve their integrity and at the same time being able to access and stop instantly a little bit like the film censor things that we didn't like.It wasn't until the Minister—and I wasn't part of the select committee on this—clarified in the committee stage exactly what this bill is aiming to stop in the form of objectionable material that it became very clear that this bill—and there will be more bills to follow this because this is a very challenging area for us. And I think Glen Bennett said a minute ago that what was around in 1993 when this bill was first passed when the forerunner of this bill was first passed we didn't even have a cellphone in our pocket. We probably didn't even have a cellphone actually. So life's just changed so dramatically in the time since that was introduced and it's continued to change and it's changing so rapidly that this Parliament is going to have to keep a very close watch in the future on what goes on with the use of technology the publication of offensive material and the way it's used either to attract attention good or bad. I think it's a very serious issue that in the future as I said we're going to have to look at much more seriously.So the bill effectively gives what I guess might have been called the censor the ability to cancel this sort of publication of offensive material instantly and make a pretty reasonable judgment on what that is. And I think that having gone through the select committee stage and through the committee stage we've got to a point with this bill where I think it preserves the integrity of the original idea and it also preserves people's ability to keep their privacy and maintain some form of personal security I suppose. So that was the very challenging part of the bill to ensure that we don't incriminate people that shouldn't be incriminated for whatever offence we perceive they might have committed.I think the worry of this is that objectionable material and the definition of it changes from time to time. Certainly in my lifetime if you think about what we might have termed objectionable material 50 years ago we couldn't imagine what might become objectionable material now and most of the stuff that's used as objectionable material now. In fact the forerunner of this bill you wouldn't have even imagined it 50 years ago so it's very difficult to imagine what might come in the future.So our position on this bill changed a lot from the first reading through the committee stage and now to the third reading and Melissa Lee would have to take a lot of the credit for that. She worked very hard on this bill from a National Party perspective as did the select committee and in fact the Minister also instigated some changes to the bill which I think enabled the bulk of the Parliament to support it. One of the things about supporting or not supporting stuff in this place is that it's very easy to not support things for a pedantic reason. Usually that pedantic reason doesn't stand up in the long term. Sometimes it does of course. So the very difficult part of that judgment is to actually judge what a good reason to oppose a bill is and what's not and we certainly in the National Party in the end couldn't find a good reason to oppose this bill. I'm sure it will do what it set out to do. It'll enable the removal of objectionable material by the chief censor where it's necessary and it will also I think preserve people's integrity as it goes along.So I think having said that I'm happy to commend the bill to the House and I'm sure that when it gets to be instigated it will actually do more good than harm in our community. As I said before these topics are very difficult to deal with and they're going to continue to be difficult to deal with and they will be challenging for this House. They will be challenging for Ministers going forward and I think that that it's just how it's going to be. So I commend the bill to the House.