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Donald Rod: Christchurch City Council (Robert McDougall Gallery) Land Vesting Bill — First Reading 
Donald Rod: Christchurch City Council (Robert McDougall Gallery) Land Vesting Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:606;Page:3586] 
ROD DONALD (Co-Leader—Green) 
: 
 The Robert McDougall Art Gallery is an icon in Christchurch. It was a sad day when the doors finally closed but it was an inevitable one because the very success of the gallery meant it required a new facility. The Green Party is very pleased to support this bill going to the Local Government and Environment Committee. 
I will be interested to see whether there are submissions raising the concerns that Mr Carter referred to. I for one certainly received a letter from the Christchurch City Council about this bill and I am sure that other Christchurch members received the same. So I am surprised to hear that Mr Carter did not. I am also surprised to hear Mr Carter say that he lives in Christchurch City because I thought he lived in the Banks Peninsula District Council area. 
Notwithstanding that I look forward to a vibrant new future for the Robert McDougall Art Gallery. It is not for me to try to prescribe how the building is used. There are many possibilities. I would obviously like to see it continue in some way to be a place that facilitates artistic endeavour. The Sunday afternoon concerts in the atrium area were always a highlight particularly with their proximity to Hagley Park. I would like to see something like that continue but that is a matter for others to decide. I am a little concerned about the length of the lease being too long or the building becoming overly commercialised but other than that I think this is a very positive move. I look forward to the bill coming back to the House for its swift passage.
Laban Luamanuvao Winnie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Laban Luamanuvao Winnie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:624;Page:19567] 
12 
.  
LUAMANUVAO WINNIE LABAN (Labour—Mana) 
 to the  
Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade 
: What reports if any has he received on the Zimbabwe election held last week? 
Hon PHIL GOFF (Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade) 
: 
 I have received reports from a number of different countries that had representatives in Zimbabwe for the election. Most reports suggest that although election day proceeded peacefully the election itself can be considered neither free nor fair. The announced outcome of the election consequently is not accepted by New Zealand as reflecting a democratic mandate for the ZANU-PF Government of Robert Mugabe. 
Luamanuvao Winnie Laban 
: On what basis does the New Zealand Government believe that the election was neither free nor fair? 
Hon PHIL GOFF 
: There are a large number of factors. If I can touch on them briefly firstly the election took place in an environment of fear and intimidation that was fuelled by widespread human rights violations and misuse of the security forces which deterred many citizens from exercising their democratic rights. Secondly Opposition politicians experienced serious harassment. There was unequal access to State media and many independent media outlets have been suppressed. Finally there have also been post-election allegations of widespread electoral irregularities including inaccurate voter lists and reports that many voters were turned away at the poll.
Tisch Lindsay: Statutes Amendment Bill (No 4) — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Statutes Amendment Bill (No 4) — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:625;Page:20391] 
LINDSAY TISCH (National—Piako) 
: 
 I am not objecting to this new part but I do note that it is quite ironic that the commentary states: “As from 6 April 2004 section 37 of the Sale of Liquor Act was amended … to alter certain conditions of off-licences to provide for sales of wines from wineries on Easter Sunday”. It is interesting that last Easter a number of wineries that one would have expected to take advantage of this decided not to open. I was in Queenstown at the time and it was publicised there that because of the Holidays Act wineries were not prepared to open. I just make that point. This part will alter certain conditions of off-licences to allow sales from wineries on Easter Sunday but interestingly enough this probably will not happen to a large extent because other criteria—namely the Holidays Act—will make it uneconomic for those places to open. 
Part 18A agreed to.
Urgent Debate Declined — Government's Welfare Policies 
Urgent Debate Declined — Government's Welfare Policies 
[Volume:606;Page:3699] 
Urgent Debate Declined 
Government's Welfare Policies 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have received a letter from the Rt Hon Winston Peters seeking to debate under Standing Order 376 a speech made by the Hon John Tamihere on the Government’s welfare policies. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. However no announcement of a change in Government policy in this area has been made and I am not persuaded that it requires the House to set aside its other business for an urgent debate today. The application is therefore declined. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. In the interests of Cabinet collective responsibility and public disclosure I now seek leave for there to be a debate of the type that I requested. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: That is a perfectly proper request. Leave is sought. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Mark Ron: Government Communications Security Bureau Bill — In Committee 
Mark Ron: Government Communications Security Bureau Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:607;Page:4384] 
RON MARK (NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I did seek the call before and you saw fit for whatever reason—and I do not question that—to allocate the call to a party of a lesser size than New Zealand First. You have already taken a call from a National member. You have not taken a call from New Zealand First and before you make a decision I would like you to consider that. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I thank the honourable member for his submission. I always take into consideration the situation of parties in the Chamber. At this particular time I have taken the decision to call Richard Worth.
Brownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Brownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:624;Page:19041] 
GERRY BROWNLEE (Deputy Leader—National) 
: 
 I just want to clarify this Madam Speaker. You will hear the question read in a minute and it is in front of you at the moment. There is nothing in it that is specific to the transport portfolio. There is a decision by the Government that the tax will be applied to roading but the question asks about the effect that the tax will have on the economy about whether the increased petrol prices are a good idea and about the calculation made by the Automobile Association in relation to the tax. To all intents and purposes it is a question that one would expect the Minister of Finance to be answering. My point of order requested that you consider giving some indication to the Government that although any Minister may answer a question a ministry may at least be pinned down to be responsible for something. After all if the Minister of Finance and Treasury are not responsible for tax and the Ministry of Transport is where does that leave us with regard to any question that relates to the Government’s responsibilities? 
Madam SPEAKER 
: As both members who have spoken to this point of order have indicated it is not for the Speaker to determine who should answer a question.
Wong Pansy: Fair Trading Amendment Bill (No 3) — Third Reading 
Wong Pansy: Fair Trading Amendment Bill (No 3) — Third Reading 
[Volume:609;Page:6919] 
PANSY WONG (NZ National) 
: At the adjournment of the House last night we were debating the Fair Trading Amendment Bill (No 3). I start my comments this morning by saying that National supports this bill. A large part of it relates to strengthening or ensuring the enforcement of pyramid selling as illegal. We believe in that because a lot of innocent New Zealanders might be caught within pyramid selling to their financial disadvantage. But we would wish that it be monitored to ensure that the Commerce Commission is proactive in that area. 
It was a disappointment to National that although we support the bill and our colleagues put forward a number of very sensible amendments that would have enhanced the legislation the Labour Government continued to adopt a very arrogant approach in not accepting them. So we promise that in 2005 when we become the Government we will introduce those amendments to make the legislation even better. 
We have some areas of concern. As my colleague the Hon Tony Ryall pointed out there is some inconsistency around the various penalties attached to the business law and that is an area that needs tidying up since that business law has been in existence for a long time. For example in this particular legislation we have doubled the penalties for pyramid selling and other offences but in other legislation similar offences might not attract the same level of fines or penalties. It is high time that we looked at for consistency and streamlined this legislation to make sure that a consistent message is sent out to potential offenders about the seriousness with which we will treat those criminal offences. 
The other area of concern related to the powers given to the Commerce Commission. It can request information or documents that are not readily available from the companies concerned. The Commerce Commission should be asked to take into consideration that if the documents are not readily available it would cost the company to produce them. We are also concerned that when the Commerce Commission issues an interim injunction and that injunction turns out to be wrong it will not be liable for damages. That seems to us to be sending the wrong message to the Commerce Commission. We want the Commerce Commission which has the advantage already of being a Government department and is armed with all sorts of authority to be particularly careful in making sure that interim injunctions would not be readily used on companies given that it would not incur damages if injunctions were issued incorrectly. 
Finally I express disappointment that there is no compliance cost statement included in this bill. It is all very well for the Hon Judith Tizard to say that there is no significant compliance cost issue. I think that if in 2003 we have a Government that claims to be very concerned about compliance cost statements then we should see a more specific compliance cost statement included in this bill.
Ririnui Mita: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Ririnui Mita: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:619;Page:14663] 
2.  
MITA RIRINUI (Labour—Waiariki) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development and Employment 
: What is being done to assist families affected by the recent flooding in the Eastern Bay of Plenty? 
Hon STEVE MAHAREY (Minister for Social Development and Employment) 
: 
 Apart from the excellent work done by that member yesterday I met with the mayors of Whakatane and Opotiki District Councils to discuss the Government’s relief measures for flood and earthquake affected areas in Eastern Bay of Plenty. The relief measures at an estimated $30 million have been developed in close cooperation with local councils farmers and voluntary and business groups. Having seen the impact of the flooding and met some of the people working on the ground to assist with recovery I have to say I have absolutely nothing but praise for the efforts of people in this region. I take the opportunity today to put on record my thanks to staff in my areas of responsibility—the Ministry of Social Development Work and Income and the Housing New Zealand Corporation. They have done an amazing job on behalf of those communities in that area. 
Hon Tony Ryall 
: What assurances can the Minister give that Government support will be forthcoming for the rebuilding of the pivotal stopbanks that protect not only the farming community but also the people of the townships of Edgecumbe and Whakatane? 
Hon STEVE MAHAREY 
: As the member will know central government meets 100 percent of some of those costs such as assisting displaced people. In areas like stopbank repair there is in place the same scheme as in the Manawatu-Rangitikei area which is the 60:40 split that exists between the two levels of government in paying for these changes. I also understand that this split-cost arrangement has been in place for a number of years. It was put in place in about 1987 from memory and although Governments have varied it a bit that is the pattern that has been followed. 
Judy Turner 
: Can the Minister inform the House about the sort of contingency plan the Government has to respond to the current survey that the recovery centre in Whakatane is conducting to ascertain the damage to uninsured and underinsured households and businesses? 
Hon STEVE MAHAREY 
: I met yesterday with the group that will receive that survey and those people convinced me that they are in good shape right across both Government and non-Government organisations to receive that report and rapidly put into action the needed assistance.
Visitors — Sweden—Prime Minister 
Visitors — Sweden—Prime Minister 
[Volume:623;Page:18575] 
Tuesday 15 February 2005 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Visitors 
Sweden—Prime Minister 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have much pleasure in informing the House that His Excellency Mr Göran Persson Prime Minister of Sweden is within the precincts of this Chamber. I am sure that members would wish that he be welcomed and accorded a seat on the left of the Chair. We also wish to welcome members of his delegation who are present in the gallery. 
His Excellency Mr Göran Persson accompanied by the Prime Minister entered the Chamber and took a seat on the left of the Chair.
Sowry Roger: Points of Order — Minister of Maori Affairs—Answer to Question 
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Sowry Roger: Points of Order — Minister of Maori Affairs—Answer to Question 
[Sitting date: 19 June 2003. Volume:609;Page:6414. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon ROGER SOWRY (Deputy Leader—NZ National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. You have now ruled that it is up to the Minister in terms of the time frame. I think that leaves a huge hole and I ask you to go away and consider that ruling in respect of the opportunity that that provides for Ministers to not answer. You have also ruled that the Minister has answered the question and did so between 11 and 11.30 a.m. Mr Hide said that in fact the Minister has not answered the question. If the Minister between 11 and 11.30 just provided in writing the same answer he provided to the House yesterday surely that is not an answer. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The Minister provided an answer. The member may not be satisfied with it and he is entitled to take that matter further by way of further questions in the House.
Mapp Wayne: Christchurch City Council (Robert McDougall Gallery) Land Vesting Bill — Procedure Second Reading 
Mapp Wayne: Christchurch City Council (Robert McDougall Gallery) Land Vesting Bill — Procedure Second Reading 
[Volume:611;Page:8801] 
Dr WAYNE MAPP (NZ National—North Shore) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The first document sought to be tabled would not constitute a breach of privilege because it was described as official approved minutes. However we find that it is not that kind of document; it is unapproved. It is my submission to you that an attempt to table unapproved documents of a select committee would constitute a breach of privilege based on other decisions of the Privileges Committee. I invite you to consider whether you would wish to facilitate the Deputy Leader of the House seeking to table unapproved minutes which in my submission would constitute a breach of privilege. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Given that I value your advice Dr Mapp can I ask you if that constitutes a breach of privilege who would be guilty of the breach—the one who attempted to do it or the one like yourself who approved it?
Vote: Public Finance (State Sector Management) Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Public Finance (State Sector Management) Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:622;Page:17907] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 9 
Green Party 9. 
Noes 110 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 315 in the name of the Hon Dr Michael Cullen to Part 5 be agreed to.
Vote: Prostitution Reform Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Prostitution Reform Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:609;Page:6190] 
A personal vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 19 
Brash (P) 
Connell (P) 
Newman (P) 
Simich  
Carter D (P) 
Eckhoff (P) 
Prebble (P) 
Smith L 
Carter J 
English (P) 
Roy 
Sowry 
Choudhary (P) 
Goudie (P) 
Samuels (P) 
Teller: 
Coddington 
Key (P) 
Shirley (P) 
Franks 
Noes 94 
Adams 
Donnelly (P) 
King 
Robson (P) 
Alexander 
Duncan (P) 
Laban (P) 
Ryall (P) 
Anderton (P) 
Dunne (P) 
Locke (P) 
Scott (P) 
Ardern (P) 
Duynhoven 
Mackey (P) 
Smith M 
Awatere Huata 
Dyson (P) 
Maharey (P) 
Stewart (P) 
Baldock 
Ewen-Street (P) 
Mahuta (P) 
Sutton (P) 
Barker (P) 
Fairbrother (P) 
Mallard (P) 
Swain (P) 
Benson-Pope 
Field (P) 
Mapp 
Tamihere (P) 
Beyer 
Fitzsimons (P) 
Mark 
Tanczos (P) 
Bradford 
Goff (P) 
McNair (P) 
Te Heuheu 
Brown (P) 
Gosche 
O’Connor (P) 
Tisch (P) 
Brownlee (P) 
Goudie 
Ogilvy 
Tizard (P) 
Burton (P) 
Gudgeon (P) 
Okeroa 
Turei (P) 
Carter C (P) 
Hartley 
Paraone (P) 
Turia (P) 
Catchpole 
Hawkins (P) 
Parker (P)  
Turner 
Chadwick 
Hereora 
Peck (P) 
Ward (P) 
Clark (P) 
Hobbs (P) 
Perry (P) 
Wilson (P) 
Collins (P) 
Hodgson (P) 
Peters J (P) 
Wong (P) 
Copeland 
Horomia (P) 
Peters W (P) 
Woolerton (P) 
Cosgrove (P) 
Hughes 
Pillay (P) 
Worth (P) 
Cullen (P) 
Hunt (P) 
Power (P) 
Yates 
Cunliffe (P) 
Jones (P) 
Rich 
Dalziel (P) 
Kedgley (P) 
Ririnui (P) 
Teller: 
Donald (P) 
Kelly (P) 
Robertson 
Pettis 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: We come now to the amendment in the name of Dianne Yates on Supplementary Order Paper 56 providing for it to be unlawful to be a client of prostitution. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 56 in the name of Dianne Yates to insert new clause 9CA and cross heading be agreed to.
Barker Rick: Courts and Criminal Matters Bill — First Reading 
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Barker Rick: Courts and Criminal Matters Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 19 June 2003. Volume:609;Page:6456. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon RICK BARKER (Minister for Courts) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Deputy Speaker. I wish to exercise my rights under Standing Order 107 concerning misrepresentation. I simply say to the House that the assertions the previous speaker made about the contents of my answer to a parliamentary question are wrong. I suggest that he read the questions and answers and gets it correct.
Chadwick Steve: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Stockholm Convention) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Chadwick Steve: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Stockholm Convention) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:609;Page:7016] 
STEVE CHADWICK (NZ Labour—Rotorua) 
: It is a pleasure to follow the erudite constitutional lawyer opposite who I am pleased to say has given his support to the bill. I find it very interesting that the bill has been before the Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade Committee which looked at the convention and found that there were no significant reasons advantageous or disadvantageous why New Zealand should not ratify it. For those reasons I support the bill.
Tabling of Documents — Violent Crime Committed by Chinese 
Tabling of Documents — Violent Crime Committed by Chinese 
[Volume:608;Page:5676] 
Tabling of Documents 
Violent Crime Committed by Chinese 
RON MARK (NZ First) 
: 
 Mr Speaker I would like to draw your attention to the fact that today the House kindly gave me leave to table some documents that show from Government statistics that violent crime committed by Chinese people in New Zealand had grown at a rate of 300 percent—I said at the time over 4 years. The documents are over a 5-year period which compares with only 6 percent for some areas of New Zealand. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Jones Dail: Immigration Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Jones Dail: Immigration Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:609;Page:6767] 
DAIL JONES (Junior Whip—NZ First) 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Thank you for mentioning that we should stay within the confines of the bill but of course the bill is a reference to the cancellation of the court case concerning the New Zealand Association for Migration and Investment Inc. If we read the court case we see that it goes virtually through sections 13A 13B and 13C of the Immigration Act. It looks at section 14 and has a good look at the issue of the general skills capacity as it relates to that case. Our debate will obviously have to refer to the sections referred to in the court case. We will stay within the scope of the bill but if the court case takes us to section 13 and other sections we must be entitled to refer to those sections as well. So with respect I suggest that we are entitled to refer to the various aspects of law referred to in the court case that this Government effectively is attempting to repeal. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I say to the member that we should not go too widely into aspects of the court case but I will use my discretion.
Vote: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Discharge In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Discharge In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8809] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 55 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; United Future 8. 
Noes 61 
Labour 52; Green Party 9. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 120 in the name of Steve Chadwick to insert the definition of  
tobacco packages in a visible stack  
in clause 2(1) be agreed to.
Vote: Criminal Records (Clean Slate) Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee Procedure 
Vote: Criminal Records (Clean Slate) Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:617;Page:12592] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 16 
ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8. 
Noes 103 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Mallard Trevor: Points of Order — Local Government Law Reform Bill (No 2) Questions for Written Answer 
Mallard Trevor: Points of Order — Local Government Law Reform Bill (No 2) Questions for Written Answer 
[Volume:606;Page:3339] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Minister of Education) 
: 
 It is important that the facts are made clear in this case. The reason the questions were late is that the questions related to 2002 expenditure and that was not available until January because of course the year had not finished. When the figures came through and showed such good news in respect of improved expenditure for schools I decided that it should be widely shared. [ 
Interruption 
]  
Mr SPEAKER 
: The good news is that some people will be leaving. I just want to say that that is a serious point of order and I want to come back with a considered ruling.
[Volume:619;Page:14862] 
I ask the Minister in the chair John Tamihere given the number of dwellings in Waitakere City that do not have code compliance when this clause states that it is an offence for a developer to pass those buildings on and that there will be a fine of up to $200000 for a person who commits that offence whether it is the Government’s intention that those people be put out in the street because they do not have code compliance. That is what clause 317A states. That is a major concern. The clause states quite clearly that that is an offence.
English Bill: Points of Order — Taito Phillip Field—Proxy Vote Personal Explanations—Interjections Privilege—Hon Matt Robson 
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English Bill: Points of Order — Taito Phillip Field—Proxy Vote Personal Explanations—Interjections Privilege—Hon Matt Robson 
[Sitting date: 21 February 2007. Volume:637;Page:7533. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Deputy Leader—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. Yesterday in the House there was quite a bit of discussion about the validity of the vote cast by the junior Labour whip Darren Hughes as proxy for Phillip Field’s vote. There was a discussion about the definition of “public interest” and so on and you made a ruling that had— 
Taito Phillip Field 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: No we are in the middle of a point of order—if perhaps we could just hear the completion. I remind members that points of order should be succinct not accompanied by long speeches. So I thank the member. 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: You made a ruling and it seems fit today that the House tests whether that ruling actually applied in this case now that we know more facts of the circumstances surrounding the use of Phillip Field’s proxy vote. We have become aware through the media as I am sure you have yourself that yesterday Mr Field was being interviewed by the police. Your ruling stated that if the member was on public business then his proxy vote could be cast and that whether a member was on public business was entirely in the hands of the member. So we would like to ask you whether that activity which has been documented publicly does constitute public business. 
I also want to raise another point and it is to do with the way your ruling relates to the custom and practice of the House. When a whip casts a party vote the whip is in the particularly privileged position of knowing what the business of every member is because MPs apply for leave. They can be absent from the House only if they have that leave from the whip. The whip gives it to them for particular reasons. So when a whip votes on the member’s behalf the whip knows what is happening and is in the position of knowing whether the member is on public business. In the case of Mr Field of course that cannot be the case because the Labour Party had made it clear that it regards his conduct as so negative that it has thrown him out of its caucus. He does not have to apply for leave. So when the Labour whips cast his vote they cannot know what business he is on and therefore they cannot pass that test. 
So the question is whether you believe that being interviewed by the police constitutes public business and if you are not willing to answer that because your ruling is that it is up to the member then it may be fit for the member concerned to explain to the House by way of personal explanation as to whether he considers that what he was doing yesterday—being interviewed by the police—constitutes public business and therefore the casting of his vote was valid.
Smith Nick: Points of Order — Members’ Day—Rescheduling of Debate Parliament Building—Media Access Members’ Day—Rescheduling of Debate 
Smith Nick: Points of Order — Members’ Day—Rescheduling of Debate Parliament Building—Media Access Members’ Day—Rescheduling of Debate 
[Volume:624;Page:19714] 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson) 
: 
 I seek leave for the 2½ hours of members’ time that was lost as a consequence of the actions of the Leader of the House last evening to be set aside for Thursday 5 May. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought. Is there any objection? There is.
Choudhary Ashraf: Education (Disestablishment of Early Childhood Development Board) Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Choudhary Ashraf: Education (Disestablishment of Early Childhood Development Board) Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:616;Page:12152] 
Dr ASHRAF CHOUDHARY (Labour) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Ogilvy Bernie: Motions — Southern Institute of Technology—Ombudsman's Recommendations 
Ogilvy Bernie: Motions — Southern Institute of Technology—Ombudsman's Recommendations 
[Volume:619;Page:15090] 
BERNIE OGILVY (United Future) 
: 
 Each of the previous speakers bar one has upheld what I think is a very very serious matter. As has been put to us and from the report we have before us there is virtually no option other than to support the report as it was put out. Otherwise the consequences will flow across the country. Those consequences could allow gaps and allow for other idiosyncrasies which could mean this Parliament would then have to do even more than it is asked to do now. That would not be correct. The processes are there and we want to uphold them. 
I know the motion that is before the House is very difficult and by the way there are mixed emotions within me too just as there are in anyone else here who is struck by this motion. I think one of the worst parts of this matter is that the Southern Institute of Technology has really made some great headlines in New Zealand since the 1990s. It has really stood out in a number of fields and this motion comes across and blurs that image. It is sad that the matter has got as far as this—that it could be placed at this level. I think the institute was the first in New Zealand for instance to introduce a zero fees scheme. I am not sure but I seem to remember that. I think that was a marvellous thing. It brought people into Southland. It brought in a lot of new people and a lot of dollars. I was told somewhere in my reading that up to $23 million was brought into Southland per annum on recent figures. That is a lot of money. The institute has been a lot of help and it has kept young men and women in Southland. In a rural area one of the greatest distractions is young people going off to tertiary training elsewhere so keeping them in Southland has been beneficial. 
Even with those sorts of mixed emotions the fact still remains that we have a very serious matter of justice and ethics before us that needs to be upheld by this Parliament. We in United Future support this motion and we trust that the message will go out loud and clear around the nation that natural justice is being reinforced through this Parliament.
Brash Don: Motions — Michael Campbell—2005 US Open 
Brash Don: Motions — Michael Campbell—2005 US Open 
[Volume:627;Page:21737] 
Dr DON BRASH (Leader of the Opposition) 
: 
 The National Party wholeheartedly supports this motion. This is yet another wonderful achievement by a Kiwi on the world stage. In becoming just the second New Zealander ever to win one of the four major golf championships Michael Campbell certainly deserves all the congratulations and adulation that will come his way. That it has been 42 years since Sir Bob Charles won the only other major golf championship won by a New Zealander gives some idea of the magnitude of what Michael has achieved. It has been a long time in the making and I suspect that makes the achievement all the sweeter for him. 
For his has surely been a story of triumph overcoming adversity. The modest boy from Titahi Bay has had a roller-coaster career that would have forced many others to give up and indeed I understand that on several occasions he came very close to doing exactly that. After a brilliant start as a youngster his career came to a fork in the road 7 years ago. A wrist injury kept him off the golf course. He lost his status on both the Australasian and the European golf circuits. This followed a near miss at the 1995 British Open when he led after 54 holes and subsequently finished third. But as they say when the going gets tough the tough get going. Michael Campbell got going fighting his way back through the form slumps that affect all golfers and through recurring injury. He even had to play a qualifying tournament to get to the US Open. Then having got there he had to outplay the defending champion and also hold off the great Tiger Woods. 
It is only when we consider how big golf is internationally and how competitive it is in the United States that we realise just how meritorious this achievement is. Michael Campbell can now hang his hat alongside that of the great Sir Bob Charles and stand with some of New Zealand’s greatest sporting heroes and that is certainly saying something.
Shirley Ken: Points of Order — Lobby Doors—Ringing of the Bell 
Shirley Ken: Points of Order — Lobby Doors—Ringing of the Bell 
[Volume:618;Page:13950] 
Hon KEN SHIRLEY (Whip—ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. During the ringing of the bells for the vote that we have just had the magnetic locks on the door into the lobbies were engaged. My understanding when we installed those magnetic locks was that during the ringing of the bells the locks would not be applied. Could we have that point clarified please? 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I will certainly do that and I will report to the House about it. I thank the member for raising that.
Vote: Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Bill — In Committee Procedure Third Reading 
Vote: Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Bill — In Committee Procedure Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:20984] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to 
. 
Ayes 55 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; United Future 8. 
Noes 62 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Marc Alexander to clause 19(2) be agreed to: 
to omit paragraph (a).
Mackey Janet: Holidays Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Mackey Janet: Holidays Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:614;Page:10528] 
JANET MACKEY (Labour—East Coast) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Hutchison Paul: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Recommittal In Committee Third Reading Procedure 
Hutchison Paul: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Recommittal In Committee Third Reading Procedure 
[Volume:621;Page:16832] 
Dr PAUL HUTCHISON (National—Port Waikato) 
: 
 I wish to move that after the words “on reasonable grounds to be” in subclause 9(e) of clause 61A the following words are inserted: “the guardian of”. The reason for this is that due to a transposition problem those three words were left out and it would be very helpful if there was unanimity and agreement on restoring them so that the clause makes sense. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Dr Paul Hutchison to clause 61A be agreed to: 
to insert in subclause (9)(e) after the words “on reasonable grounds to be” the words “the guardian of”. 
Amendment agreed to and clause 61A as amended agreed to. 
Bill reported with amendment. 
Report adopted
Business of the House 
Business of the House 
[Volume:610;Page:7981] 
Business of the House 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Next week is an adjournment week. When the House resumes on Tuesday 26 August the main items of business are likely to be the remaining stages of the Gambling Bill the Health Practitioners Competence Assurance Bill and the Consumer Credit Bill. 
GERRY BROWNLEE (NZ National—Ilam) 
: 
 I thank the Leader of the House for giving us an indication of what might be on the Order Paper when we resume. Would he be able to give us some indication of when we might expect to see some legislation relating to the Crown’s interest in the seabed and foreshore? 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN 
: I suppose I can say in the fullness of tide in this case rather than in the fullness of time.
Coddington Deborah: Transport Legislation Bill — First Reading 
Coddington Deborah: Transport Legislation Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:619;Page:14910] 
DEBORAH CODDINGTON (ACT) 
: 
 I move  
That all the words after the word “consideration” be omitted.
Gallagher Martin: Government Communications Security Bureau Bill — In Committee 
Gallagher Martin: Government Communications Security Bureau Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:607;Page:4390] 
MARTIN GALLAGHER (NZ Labour—Hamilton West) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Peters Winston: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Peters Winston: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:17001] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 The format of the debate is that the contrary side of the argument is given first and the supporting side second or vice versa. It goes from side to side. In respect of the defence of my colleagues’ rights being put by another party’s member let me say that my colleagues will get a chance to speak in this debate and they will do so shortly. It is not for Mr Franks to decide what their rights are. We have organised that because I cannot be here all day I will speak at the appropriate time. That is a fact. The second part of his argument was nebulous and nonsense. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I thank all the members for their contributions. I say to Mr Franks that I look at proportionality within the House. He is within my radar at the present stage.
Tizard Judith: Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — Third Reading 
Tizard Judith: Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:612;Page:8886] 
Hon JUDITH TIZARD (Minister of Consumer Affairs) 
: 
 I move  
That the Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill be now read a third time 
. The purpose of this bill is to protect consumers entering into and through the duration of credit contracts consumer leases and buy-back transactions. The bill achieves this purpose by updating and strengthening the information disclosure requirements thus enabling consumers to make informed decisions about consumer finance transactions. Flexible but fair rules relating to fees and interest charges on credit contracts are set. The bill closes the loophole exploited by buy-back operators in the housing area and empowers the Commerce Commission to enforce the new legislation including the buy-back provisions. 
I acknowledge the very efficient and timely manner in which Parliament has progressed this bill. I acknowledge the work of the select committee and the work of parliamentary counsel and officials on the legislation. I also want to acknowledge that this is a major consumer law statute and represents a milestone in providing consumer rights to New Zealanders. I commend this bill to the House.
Chadwick Steve: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Chadwick Steve: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:609;Page:6139] 
10.  
STEVE CHADWICK (NZ Labour—Rotorua) 
 to the  
Minister of Commerce 
: Has she received any advice on the John Scarry open letter which raised concerns about structural design construction issues and building performance in the event of an earthquake? 
Hon LIANNE DALZIEL (Minister of Commerce) 
: 
 Yes. I have now received interim reports from the Building Industry Authority and the Institution of Professional Engineers in respect of their analyses of the concerns raised and I am able to report that neither body has identified any specific building that may pose a significant or immediate risk in the event of an earthquake. 
Steve Chadwick 
: Has the Minister been advised as to whether the Building Industry Authority intends to take any further action in the light of that report; if so what advice has she received? 
Hon LIANNE DALZIEL 
: As a result of the technical report commissioned from independent consultants the Building Industry Authority will coordinate and where necessary fund ongoing research and investigations on earthquake design and best practice and will be providing advice to territorial authorities and the industry. This is in line with the Government’s decision that the regulator will operate in a proactive manner when matters of concern are raised. 
I seek leave to table both the Building Industry Authority report and the Institution of Professional Engineers letter to me. 
Documents by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Vote: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Vote: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8485] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 11 
Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Noes 108 
Labour 52; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 128 in the name of the Hon Matt Robson to clause 84(2) be agreed to.
Business of Select Committees — Membership 
Business of Select Committees — Membership 
[Volume:614;Page:10353] 
Business of Select Committees 
Membership 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I seek leave for Deborah Coddington to be a member of the Education and Science Committee but without the right to vote on any question before the committee. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course being followed? There appears to be none.
Yates Dianne: Films Videos and Publications Classification Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Yates Dianne: Films Videos and Publications Classification Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:615;Page:11472] 
DIANNE YATES (Labour—Hamilton East) 
: 
 I wish to speak on this bill and as chair of the Government Administration Committee which had an inquiry into the Films Videos and Publications Classification Act and did a great deal of research on it to say that a number of the things previous speakers have said are not actually in the bill. This debate is perhaps a time for people to air their prejudices and to have a lot to say but I advise members to read the bill and to read it in relation to the report our select committee put forward. I look forward to the bill being referred to the Government Administration Committee where we can look through what is in the bill intelligently in relation to our previous recommendations. 
Bill read a first time.
Donald Rod: Parole (Extended Supervision) and Sentencing Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Donald Rod: Parole (Extended Supervision) and Sentencing Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:618;Page:14169] 
ROD DONALD (Musterer—Green) 
: 
 I further seek leave because we have an issue with that seeking of leave. We want the amendment to clause 6A voted on separately but we would also like the rest of the amendments on Supplementary Order Paper 230 voted on separately from the amendments on Supplementary Order Paper 223. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: We will deal with the first seeking of leave. Is there any objection to the leave sought by the Hon Tony Ryall? There appears to be none.
Business of Select Committees — Membership 
Business of Select Committees — Membership 
[Volume:606;Page:3975] 
Business of Select Committees 
Membership 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I seek leave for Sue Kedgley to be a member of the Commerce Committee for the purpose of its consideration of any broadcasting legislation but without the right to vote on any question before the committee. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course being followed? There appears to be none.
Pettis Jill: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Pettis Jill: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:615;Page:11208] 
2.  
JILL PETTIS (Labour—Whanganui) 
 to the  
Minister for Rural Affairs 
: What assistance and support is being provided by the Government to rural communities affected by the current flooding? 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Acting Minister for Rural Affairs) 
:  
In addition to all the civil emergency work going on there is now coordinated the cleaning-up work with Task Force Green workers helping to clean away silt from orchards and farms and assisting in repairing fences and slips. Farm family income assistance measures are in place and agricultural recovery coordinators have been appointed and begun their work. The Government has paid local authorities in the affected areas some $650000 so they are not out of pocket while they grapple with the initial stages of dealing with the enormity of this disaster. This money will undoubtedly be a small fraction of the total cost of assistance and repairs met by the Government. 
Jill Pettis 
: Can the people in rural New Zealand have confidence that their needs will be met as they recover and rebuild after this disaster as will the needs of people living in the towns? 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN 
: Yes clearly the Government is considering further measures of assistance above and beyond those that are normally provided in these situations. There has been strong support for the measures already taken—for example from the mayors of southern Taranaki Manawatu and Marlborough and from the president of Federated Farmers. 
Simon Power 
: Will the Government give a cash injection to local relief funds due to the small ratepayer base of local councils compared with the massive scale of devastation; if not why not? 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN 
: Already significant assistance for mayoral relief funds has gone above the normal quantum of $20000 in these cases. The Government has received a suggestion from the United Future party in relation to matching grants for relief funds and is giving active consideration to that. That would apply to funds that have already been raised as well as to funds being raised by organisations like CaritasAotearoa Red Cross and so on. 
Hon Peter Dunne 
: Is the Minister aware of reports from the Wellington and Hutt Valley region of significant damage as a result of the storms of last weekend in particular and can he assure the House that the same general range of measures that he has foreshadowed will be available to assist those who are the victims of tragedies further north will also be available to the victims of tragedies in this part of the world? 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN 
: The standard provisions of course will automatically apply—that is an 85 percent subsidy on local roads and a 60:40 split on a range of civic amenities and infrastructure. That has been standard Government policy since I think the Cyclone Bola disaster. We obviously will be prepared to look at additional assistance if that is required in the context of this region.