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Tisch Lindsay: Commerce Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
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[Sitting date: 02 September 2008. Volume:649;Page:18547. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
LINDSAY TISCH (National—Piako) 
: 
 I want to carry on with a point made by my colleague Dr Worth. The Commerce Amendment Bill does not actually tie in in terms of pricing methodology and disclosure. Airports will be able to treat information disclosure separately from pricing and will be able to continue to set prices as they see fit. That will be one of the challenges the Commerce Commission has and we will be looking very closely at what the regulations are and how this provision will work. I say to the Minister of Commerce that I do not think it is as clear-cut as we would like it to be. There are some huge challenges and I mention that one in particular— 
Hon Lianne Dalziel 
: Which is why the Commerce Commission will handle that. 
LINDSAY TISCH 
: Sure I appreciate that. The other thing that is of concern is in regard to the transitional provisions and I mentioned it in the second reading. Section 56G(1) in clause 4 states: “As soon as practicable after any new price for a specified airport service is set in or after 2012 by a supplier of the service the Commission must—” and it goes through the requirements. If the commission decides there is monopoly pricing it can recommend to the Minister that an inquiry be held and an inquiry could take anywhere between 2 and 3 years.  
Hon Lianne Dalziel 
: Like it does today. 
LINDSAY TISCH 
: Yes so it could be 2015 or later before anything is done to address a situation of overcharging that could well be occurring. That will be a huge issue in that the bill is trying to satisfy that concern on the part of airlines. 
The other point is that with that delay it is unlikely that any changes would take place before 2016-17. So there is a huge lead time. I understand how that works but I flag that these are things that National members will be looking at and monitoring closely. We like regulation in that it is light-handed; we do not want a heavy-handed approach. But it has to be fair and equitable in this case.  
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 244 in the name of the Hon Lianne Dalziel to Part 1 be agreed to.
Gallagher Martin: Customs and Excise Amendment Bill (No 3) — Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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[Sitting date: 02 September 2008. Volume:649;Page:18519. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MARTIN GALLAGHER (Labour—Hamilton West) 
: 
 I would certainly like to take a long call on the Customs and Excise Amendment Bill (No 3) and I know that the Leader of the House would support my doing that but I am not going to; I am going to be quite concise. 
The Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade Committee consideration of the bill was very interesting. There was a bit of to-ing and fro-ing with regard to the tobacco exemption and what we have come up with is a compromise which is obviously accepted. There are some serious health problems around tobacco consumption. I acknowledge the point Mr Ardern made that people who push the limit of the exemption for personal consumption over a few years would not be around for long to enjoy it! Dare I say it that is a point I note. 
The bill tightens up a few things. It amends the Customs and Excise Act in relation to appeal and review rights under the statutory forfeiture and seizure regime ad hoc arrivals and departures and the illegal manufacture of tobacco—which has been talked about. I thank the select committee and the officials for their work. This legislation is a good step in the right direction and tidies up what have been a few anomalies in the past. Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker.
Vote: Commerce Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
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[Sitting date: 02 September 2008. Volume:649;Page:18548. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 113 
New Zealand Labour 49; New Zealand National 47; New Zealand First 7; Green Party 5; United Future 2; Progressive 1; Independents: Copeland Field. 
Noes 4 
Maori Party 4. 
Amendments agreed to. 
Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Business of the House 
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[Sitting date: 02 September 2008. Volume:649;Page:18537. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Business of the House 
PETER BROWN (Whip—NZ First) 
: 
 I have a little problem. I have a member away whom I did not know would be away. I would like in the first instance to seek leave for the two New Zealand First members who are away attending the Hon Brian Donnelly’s investiture to be counted as being in this House. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave has been sought for that course to be followed. Is there any objection? 
Hon PAUL SWAIN (Labour—Rimutaka) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I just missed the last couple of points so I wonder whether the member would like to clarify what he was saying. 
GERRY BROWNLEE (National—Ilam) 
: 
 I can probably help. New Zealand First has members who are attending the investiture of the Hon Brian Donnelly at Government House today. They could not be in the House for a vote. The House by leave can consider that they are in the presence of Parliament for the purpose of that vote. We certainly agree with that. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave has been sought for that course to be followed. Is there any objection? There appears to be none.
Vote: Summary Offences (Tagging and Graffiti Vandalism) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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[Sitting date: 19 June 2008. Volume:647;Page:16799. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Summary Offences (Tagging and Graffiti Vandalism) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 107 
New Zealand Labour 49; New Zealand National 46; New Zealand First 7; United Future 2; Progressive 1; Independents: Copeland; Field. 
Noes 10 
Green Party 6; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 2. 
Bill read a third time.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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[Sitting date: 19 June 2008. Volume:647;Page:16764. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 Madam Speaker— 
Gerry Brownlee 
: Tell us about the ETS. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: You will have plenty of time to discuss the emissions trading scheme. 
Gerry Brownlee 
: That’s an admission. It will be in the House with a long Committee stage. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: Well at least I have not ended up with a Maori nose after having had my face pressed up against the window of power for the last 9 years like the member has. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Would the member please just ask the question. [ 
Interruption 
] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: It will go on for a lot longer if the member carries on in that arrogant way. As for Mr Carter I ask why he has lost three seats already. He has been refused nominations for all three seats he is now on the list and he lost the court case as well. He has already paid his lawyer $160000 in legal costs trying to defend himself against a defamation case from me. Is he winning now? No he is not. [ 
Interruption 
] There he goes again. He is big time here but he cannot even stand— 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Please be seated all of you. This is what happens when interjections create disorder. The member will put forward just his question and there will be silence so that we can get the question out.
Kedgley Sue: Births Deaths Marriages and Relationships Registration Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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[Sitting date: 19 June 2008. Volume:647;Page:16800. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
SUE KEDGLEY (Green) 
: 
 Mr Deputy Speaker I request that the House adjourn at this point in time. One of the members of the Green Party who would wish very much to speak on this bill is not able to be in the House at this time. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The member may seek leave. Are you seeking leave? 
SUE KEDGLEY 
: Yes I am seeking leave. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave has been sought for that course to be followed. Is there any objection to that? There appears to be none. 
Debate interrupted.
Cullen Michael: Business Statement 
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[Sitting date: 19 June 2008. Volume:647;Page:16751. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Discussions continue on that bill. I am sure the member will be kept up to date both by the Government and by media comment.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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[Sitting date: 19 June 2008. Volume:647;Page:16751. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
GERRY BROWNLEE (National—Ilam) 
: 
 Could the Leader of the House give some indication of when item No. 20 on the Order Paper might be further advanced—that is the Climate Change (Emissions Trading and Renewable Preference) Bill.
Cullen Michael: Business Statement 
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[Sitting date: 19 June 2008. Volume:647;Page:16751. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 When the House resumes next week the first order of the day on Tuesday will be the first reading of the Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill followed by the second reading of the Appropriation (2007/08 Supplementary Estimates) Bill. This is a 3-hour debate and will include debate on an Imprest Supply Bill. On Wednesday priority will be given to the first readings of the Central North Island Forests Land Collective Settlement Bill and the Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill (No 2). We will also seek to progress the remaining stages of the Injury Prevention Rehabilitation and Compensation Amendment Bill (No 2).
Births Deaths Marriages and Relationships Registration Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Births Deaths Marriages and Relationships Registration Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 19 June 2008. Volume:647;Page:16800. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Births Deaths Marriages and Relationships Registration Amendment Bill 
Third Reading 
Debate resumed from 17 June. 
SUE KEDGLEY (Green) 
: 
 Mr Deputy Speaker I request that the House adjourn at this point in time. One of the members of the Green Party who would wish very much to speak on this bill is not able to be in the House at this time. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The member may seek leave. Are you seeking leave? 
SUE KEDGLEY 
: Yes I am seeking leave. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave has been sought for that course to be followed. Is there any objection to that? There appears to be none. 
Debate interrupted.
Business Statement 
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[Sitting date: 19 June 2008. Volume:647;Page:16751. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Thursday 19 June 2008 
Madam Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
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Business Statement 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 When the House resumes next week the first order of the day on Tuesday will be the first reading of the Affiliate Te Arawa Iwi and Hapu Claims Settlement Bill followed by the second reading of the Appropriation (2007/08 Supplementary Estimates) Bill. This is a 3-hour debate and will include debate on an Imprest Supply Bill. On Wednesday priority will be given to the first readings of the Central North Island Forests Land Collective Settlement Bill and the Lawyers and Conveyancers Amendment Bill (No 2). We will also seek to progress the remaining stages of the Injury Prevention Rehabilitation and Compensation Amendment Bill (No 2). 
GERRY BROWNLEE (National—Ilam) 
: 
 Could the Leader of the House give some indication of when item No. 20 on the Order Paper might be further advanced—that is the Climate Change (Emissions Trading and Renewable Preference) Bill. 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Discussions continue on that bill. I am sure the member will be kept up to date both by the Government and by media comment.
Vote: Third Readings — 
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[Sitting date: 19 June 2008. Volume:647;Page:16786. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Crimes Amendment Bill (No 3) the Criminal Disclosure Bill the District Courts Amendment Bill (No 5) the Juries Amendment Bill the Summary Proceedings Amendment Bill (No 4) and the Victims’ Rights Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 108 
New Zealand Labour 49; New Zealand National 48; New Zealand First 7; United Future 2; Progressive 1; Independent: Copeland. 
Noes 11 
Green Party 6; Maori Party 4; Independent: Field. 
Bills read a third time.
Soper Lesley: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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[Sitting date: 19 June 2008. Volume:647;Page:16768. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
11.  
LESLEY SOPER (Labour) 
 to the  
Associate Minister of Health 
: What recent reports have there been on smoking in New Zealand? 
Hon DAMIEN O’CONNOR (Associate Minister of Health) 
: 
 This excellent Labour-led Government recently announced that New Zealand’s smoking rate has fallen to a record low of 19.9 percent—the first time on record that it has ever been below 20 percent. The latest New Zealand Health Survey shows that smoking has fallen by almost 5 percent across the population since 2003. This means there are 150000 fewer smokers half of whom would have died as a result of smoking. Fewer youth are smoking now too. The latest Action on Smoking and Health year 10 survey shows that under this Labour-led Government youth smoking has more than halved from 28 percent of youth in 1999 to 12 percent in 2007. The record shows that our Government has had significant success in reducing the smoking rate in this country. 
Lesley Soper 
: What is the Government doing to further lower the smoking rate? 
Hon DAMIEN O’CONNOR 
: That is another excellent question. In this year’s Budget the Government committed an extra $8 million a year for smoking cessation. This is on top of the extra $10 million per year we announced last year and takes the total annual spend to $55 million. We are funding many cessation programmes: nicotine replacement therapy; this week we launched Txt2Quit; and last month we launched our new hard-hitting TV advertisements. Our policies to reduce smoking are working. They are about stopping children and young people from starting and about helping people to quit. They are not about sitting around in corporate boxes blowing smoke in people’s faces. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: Given that the latest United Nations health report says that the country with the greatest incidence of longevity or the lowest incidence of heart failure and strokes is also the country with the greatest per capita intake of cigarette smoking—namely Japan—why is the Minister not focusing on that which is important which is diet rather than poking his nose into the minds and lives of ordinary working people who have very few pleasures and are simply trying to survive in this difficult world? 
Hon DAMIEN O’CONNOR 
: That is an excellent question. This Government is doing a huge amount in the area of healthy eating and healthy action. We have a number of programmes under way. But I do not buy into that member’s assumption that Japanese people live longer because they smoke more.
Vote: Third Readings — 
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[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10652. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Sentencing Council Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 70 
New Zealand Labour 49; New Zealand First 7; Green Party 6; Maori Party 4; United Future 2; Progressive 1; Independent: Field. 
Noes 51 
New Zealand National 48; ACT New Zealand 2; Independent: Copeland. 
Bill read a third time.
Smith Nick: Weathertight Homes Resolution Services (Remedies) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10659. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson) 
: 
 I just want to take a call on the title of this bill. I think it should be called the “Government’s Third Attempt at Trying to Provide Justice for Leaky Home Owners Bill”. This is a Groundhog Day sort of bill and we have seen a series of Government Ministers in this portfolio. In fact there have been seven Ministers in just 7 years so it is no wonder there has been a series of debacles in this area. I could go through and list all of those Ministers. We started with the Minister in charge of this portfolio Mark Burton. Then he passed it on to George Hawkins. We then had John Tamihere—he had a go. The hot potato was then passed on to Margaret Wilson our dear Speaker. Then it was handed to Chris Carter and then to Clayton Cosgrove who had it from 2005.  
The really interesting thing is that when Clayton Cosgrove took over the portfolio he said that the record was not good. So he was prepared to damn his previous Ministers. He said there would now be far more progress. I just remind the Committee of the figures for the last month. Ten claims were resolved and there were 18 new claims going backwards at a rate of almost 2:1.  
I would love to hear from the Minister in the chair Clayton Cosgrove as to when he thinks this process might be complete. Otherwise this bill should properly be labelled the “Weathertight Homes Into the Never-never Bill” or the “Weathertight Homes (Repeated Efforts and Failures by Clayton Cosgrove to Fix this Issue) Bill” or “Another Labour Arrogance Problem Bill”. Lots of labels would be suitable given the very sad history that has occurred around leaky homes. It is inevitable also that the title could be “Pass the Hot Potato Bill” in the sense that this portfolio has been passed around among so many— 
Craig Foss 
: Kumara. 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH 
: I am sorry; the member suggests it should be “Pass the Hot Kumara Bill” given the number of Ministers in this portfolio. The number of changes is unsatisfactory; it makes it so much more difficult for both homeowners and this Parliament to hold Ministers accountable for the lack of performance. Every one of these Ministers has said: “It’s not my fault; it’s the last one’s fault” and then we get another Minister and another mess.  
So lots of other names could be given to this bill. But it cannot be given the name “Justice for Leaky Home Owners Bill” because justice for leaky home owners will come only when there is a change of Government.
Vote: Third Readings — 
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[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10652. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Bail Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 70 
New Zealand Labour 49; New Zealand First 7; Green Party 6; Maori Party 4; United Future 2; Progressive 1; Independent: Field. 
Noes 51 
New Zealand National 48; ACT New Zealand 2; Independent: Copeland. 
Bill read a third time. 
Sentencing Amendment Bill (No 3) read a third time. 
Parole Amendment Bill (No 2) read a third time.
Vote: Third Readings — 
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[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10652. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand Labour 49; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 4; United Future 2; Progressive 1; Independent: Field. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand National 48; Green Party 6; ACT New Zealand 2; Independent: Copeland. 
Bill read a third time.
Power Simon: Parole Amendment Bill (No 2) — In Committee 
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[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10631. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
SIMON POWER (National—Rangitikei) 
: 
 The National Party was happy to give leave to the Minister to make sure that these consequential amendments were made in a way that would not cause the Government further embarrassment after the Committee stage on Thursday given that only on the Wednesday I had risen in the Chamber to raise concerns about the fact that victims would no longer have the same rights to appear before the Parole Board panels as they previously had. The Minister assured me as his officials had assured the committee that that would not be the case and we were all left wondering. It was not until the  
Close Up 
 programme investigated the issue a little further and Heather Roy tabled amendments on behalf of the ACT party that it all started coming unravelled.  
Despite the best efforts of Charles Chauvel and Lynne Pillay in the Chamber to convince the Committee that they should vote against the amendments their legs were taken out from under them when not 5 minutes later the Minister rose in the Committee and said that the Government would be voting for the amendments. He had taken his socks off done the numbers and worked out that the Government would lose the amendment. At that point I was sitting here listening to the Minister’s comments and they all sounded very reasonable and conciliatory but my how history changes in the space of one sitting day. The Minister said it was a matter of MMP moving forward and other such sorts of conciliatory clichés. It is a shame he did not approach the electoral reform legislation with the same open-mindedness. But no doubt given this Minister’s record on this bill and on the Evidence Bill we will be having a similar conversation about electoral reform matters probably in 3 or 4 months’ time.  
But I want to say that the National Party will not stand in the way of these matters being dealt with sensibly. Instead we take this opportunity to remind the Committee and the Parliament that a good idea is worth consideration by the Government and should not be dismissed out of hand in the first instance. We look forward to voting on each of the separate bills at the third reading stage. 
The question was put that the following amendments in the name of the Hon Mark Burton be agreed to: 
to omit subclauses (1) to (3) of clause 105; 
to omit subclause (2) of clause 115A; and 
to omit the expression “ 48B(2)” from clause 138(2). 
Amendments agreed to. 
Clauses 105 115A and 138 as amended agreed to. 
Bill reported with amendment. 
Report adopted.
Burton Mark: Parole Amendment Bill (No 2) — In Committee 
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Burton Mark: Parole Amendment Bill (No 2) — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10630. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon MARK BURTON (Minister of Justice) 
: 
 I start by thanking members around the Chamber for agreeing to this accommodation. I think that when the matter that led to our needing to do this was discussed we all described it as MMP in action and this in itself is a continuation of that. 
Simon Power 
: Oh how history is rewritten. 
Hon MARK BURTON 
: Oh indeed! Heather Roy’s amendments removed the clauses that would have changed the position of the rights of victims in relation to the Parole Board. We had that discussion when the Committee last sat. This involved the deletion of amendments to section 50A which deal with the position of victims whose addresses have not been previously notified. Following the passing of Ms Roy’s amendments further technical and cross-referencing amendments are required. 
Clause 105 concerns the notification of victims and makes consequential amendments on the basis of the deleted amendments to section 50A. These references will now be incorrect. Clauses 115A(2) bars reviews of decisions made under what is now following the deletion of new section 48B something that does not exist after Ms Roy’s amendments and clause 138 also now refers to something that has effectively been removed from the Act. 
My tabled amendment simply amends these clauses to reflect Parliament’s intention when it agreed to Ms Roy’s amendments. I commend them to the Committee.
Power Simon: Business of the House 
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[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10630. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
SIMON POWER (National—Rangitikei) 
: 
 In a similar nature to the leave agreed to on that particular matter I seek leave of the House with regard to the third readings of the bills from the Criminal Justice Reform Bill that the Minister mentioned. Presently the Order Paper allows for the five different bills to be taken as one question. I seek leave of the House for the five listed bills to be taken as a separate question each at the third reading. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Ann Hartley) 
: Leave is sought for that procedure. Is there any objection. [ 
Interruption 
] Does the member want to clarify that? He seeks leave for one debate? 
SIMON POWER 
: Five questions. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Ann Hartley) 
: Leave is sought for the third readings to be taken as five questions in one debate. There is no objection. Leave is granted.
Burton Mark: Parole Amendment Bill (No 2) — Recommittal 
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[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10630. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon MARK BURTON (Minister of Justice) 
: 
 Pursuant to discussions we have had with members of other parties I seek leave for the third reading of the Parole Amendment Bill (No 2) to be discharged and the bill set down for recommittal forthwith for consideration of amendments to clauses 105 115A and 138(2) and then for the bill to be set down for third reading together with the third readings of the Sentencing Council Bill the Bail Amendment Bill the Sentencing Amendment Bill (No 3) and the Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Amendment Bill. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Ann Hartley) 
: Is there any objection? There is no objection. Leave is granted.
Wilson Margaret: Urgent Debates — Environment Ministry—State Services Commission Briefing 
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[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10609. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Madam SPEAKER 
: I have received a letter from John Key seeking to debate under Standing Order 380 the release of a State Services Commission briefing on an employment decision at the Ministry for the Environment. The release of the briefing is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility and given the public interest in the subject of the briefing I agree that it does require the immediate attention of the House.  
I have also received letters from the Rt Hon Winston Peters and Sue Bradford seeking to debate the decision of the directors of Auckland International Airport Ltd to recommend a sale of Auckland airport to a Dubai company. The decision of a company’s directors is not a matter of ministerial responsibility though if such a deal were to proceed it may well involve Overseas Investment Office clearance. However that stage has not been reached yet. I will therefore allow Mr Key’s application and call on Mr Key to move that the House take note of a particular matter of urgent importance.
Woolerton R Doug: Points of Order — Reserve Bank (Amending Primary Function of Bank)  Amendment Bill—Leave to Introduce 
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R DOUG WOOLERTON (NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I seek leave for the Reserve Bank (Amending Primary Function of Bank) Amendment Bill to be introduced and set down for first reading as a members’ order of the day despite Standing Orders 276(1) and 277(1). 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought. Is there any objection? Yes there is objection.
Mackey Moana: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10605. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
9.  
MOANA MACKEY (Labour) 
 to the  
Minister for Building and Construction 
: What reports if any has he received on improvements to the building consent process? [ 
Interruption 
]  
Madam SPEAKER 
: Members who intervene again will leave the Chamber. 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Minister for Building and Construction) 
: 
 I have received reports noting that building consent authorities are being audited and accredited to ensure they lift their game and deliver better services to people needing building consents. Yesterday I presented the Palmerston North City Council with its accreditation certificate. It is the first council to pass accreditation. The council has boosted its building control staff numbers from 12 to 20 put these staff through rigorous training programmes and has invested in new information technology so that they are equipped to meet the new high-quality inspection and processing standards the Government is putting in place. 
Moana Mackey 
: Has he received any reports on alternative changes to the building consent process? 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE 
: Yes. I have seen a report from one Pat Seymour who describes the Building (Late Consent is a Free Consent) Amendment Bill as “a daft piece of potential legislation” that will mean “the only one that will end up paying every time is the general ratepayer”. Pat Seymour is the chair of the East Coast branch of the National Party and was writing in the National Party’s  
East Coast Informer 
 newsletter. The bill she criticises is in the name of one Dr Nick Smith and is supported by the National caucus including Anne Tolley. I seek leave to table the  
East Coast Informer 
 a National Party newsletter of January 2007. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House. 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: I seek leave to table the report by the Registered Master Builders Federation stating that it now takes longer to get a consent to build a house in New Zealand that it takes to build it. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? Yes there is objection. 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE 
: I seek to table the select committee report on the Building (Late Consent is a Free Consent) Amendment Bill in which the select committee notes that only 20 percent of consents are processed outside the 20 working day period. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Hereora Dave: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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[Sitting date: 24 July 2007. Volume:640;Page:10599. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
5.  
DAVE HEREORA (Labour) 
 to the  
Minister of Maori Affairs 
: He aha nga purongo mo te reo Maori kua tae atu ina tata nei? 
[ 
What recent reports has he received on the health of the Maori language? 
] 
Hon PAREKURA HOROMIA (Minister of Maori Affairs) 
: 
I te po kua hori nei i whakaputa au i nga hua o te Rangahau mo Te Reo Maori i te tau 2006 na runga i nga mahi a Te Puni Kokiri. Kitea ana i tenei rangahau kua piki haere te tokomaha o nga Maori e mohio ana ki te korero me te whakarongo ki Te Reo a kei te kaha ake te korero ki nga tamariki. 
[An interpretation in English was given to the House.] 
Last night I launched the results of the survey of the health of the Maori language in 2006 which was conducted by Te Puni Kokiri. The survey showed a healthy increase in the number of Maori who can speak and understand te reo and highlighted that more Maori are speaking te reo to their children. This is great news. 
] 
Dave Hereora 
: He aha nga mahi e puta ake ana i te rangahau nei? 
[An interpretation in English was given to the House.] 
What are the outcomes from this survey? 
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Hon PAREKURA HOROMIA 
: Ka haere tonu nga mahi hei wetewete i enei tatauranga hei kaupapa mo te Rautaki Reo Maori. Ka whakaputahia hei tirohanga a-rohe hei kaupapa mo te mahi tihikete ki nga iwi ara hei awhina i a ratou ki te whakarite kaupapa mo ratou ano. 
[An interpretation in English was given to the House.] 
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We will continue to analyse the results as the basis for our ongoing investment in the Maori Language Strategy. We will develop regional profiles so that we can work with iwi to develop their own language programmes. 
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Business of the House 
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Business of the House 
SIMON POWER (National—Rangitikei) 
: 
 In a similar nature to the leave agreed to on that particular matter I seek leave of the House with regard to the third readings of the bills from the Criminal Justice Reform Bill that the Minister mentioned. Presently the Order Paper allows for the five different bills to be taken as one question. I seek leave of the House for the five listed bills to be taken as a separate question each at the third reading. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Ann Hartley) 
: Leave is sought for that procedure. Is there any objection. [ 
Interruption 
] Does the member want to clarify that? He seeks leave for one debate? 
SIMON POWER 
: Five questions. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Ann Hartley) 
: Leave is sought for the third readings to be taken as five questions in one debate. There is no objection. Leave is granted.
Parole Amendment Bill (No 2) — Recommittal 
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Parole Amendment Bill (No 2) 
Recommittal 
Hon MARK BURTON (Minister of Justice) 
: 
 Pursuant to discussions we have had with members of other parties I seek leave for the third reading of the Parole Amendment Bill (No 2) to be discharged and the bill set down for recommittal forthwith for consideration of amendments to clauses 105 115A and 138(2) and then for the bill to be set down for third reading together with the third readings of the Sentencing Council Bill the Bail Amendment Bill the Sentencing Amendment Bill (No 3) and the Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Amendment Bill. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Ann Hartley) 
: Is there any objection? There is no objection. Leave is granted.
Points of Order — Reserve Bank (Amending Primary Function of Bank)  Amendment Bill—Leave to Introduce 
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Points of Order 
Reserve Bank (Amending Primary Function of Bank)  Amendment Bill—Leave to Introduce 
R DOUG WOOLERTON (NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I seek leave for the Reserve Bank (Amending Primary Function of Bank) Amendment Bill to be introduced and set down for first reading as a members’ order of the day despite Standing Orders 276(1) and 277(1). 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought. Is there any objection? Yes there is objection.
Ryall Tony: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Hon TONY RYALL (National—Bay of Plenty) 
 to the  
Minister of Health 
: Does he stand by his statement regarding the conflict of interest allegations at the Hawke’s Bay District Health Board: “the district health board has looked at it and found no material advantage”? 
Hon PETE HODGSON (Minister of Health) 
: 
 Yes I do. The contract at the centre of the review has been examined already by the audit committee of the Hawke’s Bay District Health Board. Its legal advice is that Mr Hausmann’s company did not receive any particular advantage. However rumours continue and at the request of Mr Hausmann himself I have decided we should have a fresh look. 
Hon Tony Ryall 
: Why did the Hawke’s Bay District Health Board cancel the tender process for the community services contract? 
Hon PETE HODGSON 
: It was well before a tender process I can assure the member. I think it was a request for proposal process; it was very early on in the process. There was no tender. There was no contract. There was a request for proposal process which legal advice said should start again in case it was unsafe. 
Hon Tony Ryall 
: What were those matters that would have made it unsafe to continue with the process? 
Hon PETE HODGSON 
: The matters that have been the subject of continual conjecture by the member and by other folk for the past 2 weeks even though the review to take a look at these issues got under way before the National Party had ever heard about it. 
Hon Tony Ryall 
: If the process was cancelled because of matters that are being raised in the House and if the matters being raised in the House are those that the whistleblower revealed how can there be no connection between those claims and the cancelling of the request for proposal process? 
Hon PETE HODGSON 
: There is a very convoluted question sitting in there somewhere. Let me tell members what the answer is. In January 2006 now 18 months ago the chair of the Hawke’s Bay District Health Board rang me and said he had concerns because he had—[ 
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] He rang me—he did. He rang me and said he had concerns about a request for proposal process and that one of the staff members of the Hawke’s Bay District Health Board had raised those concerns with him. I discussed this matter with him for some time. He went on to take advice from lawyers the Ministry of Health and others and as a result the audit committee said that the request for proposal process should cease in case it lead to an unsafe outcome. That was 18 months ago. Rumours persist and because the person against whom they persist Mr Hausmann has written to me asking that the issue be looked at afresh I have decided to look at it afresh.
Carter John: Third Readings — 
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JOHN CARTER (National—Northland) 
: 
 The Government is asking tonight for this country to embark on a great big unsubstantiated experiment and it is asking this Parliament to support it: “Let us have a shot at biofuels. Let us introduce a bill that will make them compulsory and let us see if it works.” But during the whole debate that we have had this afternoon and this evening the Government has not been able to put forward one substantive fact to back up its argument that we should move forward on this in the manner it is suggesting. The Government is saying: “Let us have a go.”
Tisch Lindsay: Disability (United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities) Bill Human Rights Amendment Bill (No 2) — Third Readings 
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LINDSAY TISCH (National—Piako) 
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 It is obvious that the support of the House for this legislation tonight is important. We have heard some very good speeches on the whole area of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. We have had people here who have expertise in this area and although I was not on the Justice and Electoral Committee I certainly realise the importance of this legislation for those people who are in the gallery tonight. National has much pleasure in supporting this legislation. 
Bills read a third time.
Pillay Lynne: Disability (United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities) Bill Human Rights Amendment Bill (No 2) — Third Readings 
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LYNNE PILLAY (Labour—Waitakere) 
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 I share the sentiments or some of the sentiments of Chris Finlayson—certainly that the sooner the legislation is passed the better it will be. I know that it will be passed this evening and I think it is great that we have the support of all members in the House for it. As I said earlier some members were a little reticent about coming forward in terms of making money into a little more of a consideration than I think it needed to be. But with good advice and certainly with compelling submissions this is the point we are at now.  
This is the time when we should acknowledge as we did before all the work that has gone before us. This is the final stage in the process and as important as it is I say much has been done by many people in leading us to this point. I particularly want to acknowledge all the work that went in—work that actually made New Zealand a leader in terms of these rights. There are too many people involved for me to name them all but in particular I want to acknowledge Don Mackay who really played a huge leadership role in this area. Certainly I know that everyone in this House and those who have seen the work that Don has undertaken will join me in acknowledging him in this House.  
I think this legislation is historic—and I am looking at the clock because I am not going to let so much time go by that this legislation does not pass tonight. I would very much like to add along with everybody else my full support for this legislation to go forward. Thank you very much.
Turner Judy: Disability (United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities) Bill Human Rights Amendment Bill (No 2) — Third Readings 
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JUDY TURNER (Deputy Leader—United Future) 
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 I will take only a very brief call on the third readings of this legislation. It is sufficient to just say that United Future sees this legislation as not a small but a significant legislative step. But it is a step in a journey that still has some measurable distance to be covered so I say our commitment to this step tonight goes with a larger commitment to the ongoing need for policy development and the delivery of services that empower people to live lives of their own choice. We are committed to that. I thank all parties I thank the officials and I thank those in the sector who have taken the time to get into United Future’s face over the last 3 years in order to ensure that we listened to them that we continue to listen to them and that we continue to learn so that everything we advocate for on their behalf reflects what they want. Thank you.
Auchinvole Chris: Disability (United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities) Bill — Second Reading In Committee 
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CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National) 
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 I take note of the incredibly popular suggestion that the Minister for Disability Issues has just made and I shall speak quickly! 
I would like to add my voice to those expressing the pleasure associated with this bill being a unanimous decision of the House. I note the huge number of pieces of legislation that have to be adjusted. Even in these days of computer technology I am sure it is a massive task. I say to my colleague Paul Hutchison that I misled him: the bill does involve trout because I notice that freshwater fish legislation is included—so yes trout are there. 
The ratification of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities is particularly important for vulnerable members of society and particularly for sufferers of psychiatric illness. Twenty percent of New Zealanders we have just been told are currently enduring some form of mental disorder. With modern psychiatric medicine I guess we can say that in most cases it will be of a temporary nature—a temporary disorder—and thank goodness for that. None the less we need legislation that prevents people from being marginalised excluded or isolated from normal life. 
Schoolchildren with special needs are worthy of special attention. I have noticed as I have gone round the New Zealand Educational Institute meetings that I have been invited to recently the difficulty associated with the Government’s decision that 1 percent of schoolchildren be regarded as needing special-needs support. How on earth can a Government decide that a particular percentage of people will be worthy of assistance? 
There is still a way to go yet in making this legislation the practical tool that I am sure everybody in the gallery hopes and expects it will be. I have enjoyed my exposure to this bill to the information it has provided and to the work of the select committee. I have enjoyed my involvement and I feel that I am a wiser person as a consequence of having been involved. It is with pleasure that National members express support for this bill.