White HelenHELEN WHITE (Labour—Mt Albert): Thank you Madam Chair. My first question is a really specific one and it's about the quality of air. So it's not about carbon emissions changing our climate but it's an important extra advantage of having a whole lot of vehicles that are coming in that are cleaner in our cities so that the air pollutants go down. I wondered whether the Minister had information about how much less carbon and how much less of the other toxins are going into the atmosphere in a place like Auckland. I have people in Mt Albert who live really near the motorway. They live down in Kingsland down by the motorway and they tend to be people who can't afford to live way up high. It's a really important thing for us to have a measure of that and so I would like to know. We've had an incredibly successful scheme. Has there been any analysis of how it's affecting our cities particularly in the valleys of those cities because we will be paying for this in lives in terms of the health of our children and in fact ourselves—all of us? So I would like to know: has there been a cost-benefit analysis on this has there been a measure of the improvement in the air quality in those places and have you taken it into account when you have looked at changing the scheme here because it's been an incredibly successful scheme and we've gone way above numbers.Now my next question is one about equity. Has there been some sort of analysis done about the benefits once the scheme is coming through or that has been done in terms of the maintenance of those vehicles? We're just getting to the point where some of those vehicles will be on the second-hand market but has there been any analysis done about how much it's saving the average family if they get one of those cars? There's a whole lot of cars that people don't know about. There's been a lot of talk of Teslas but there's actually a whole lot of cars at the lower end of the market that have been coming in. They attract the discount. Sometimes they're petrol cars. Often they are very ordinarily named cars like Nissan LEAFs etc.—those sorts of cars. How much benefit to a low-income family is there if they buy those kinds of cars?Has there been any analysis done over the sort of response from our manufacturers because my understanding is that there were some vehicles that had been really expensive. Some of the people movers and actually the utes had been way more expensive and they came down by $20000 immediately upon our introducing the scheme because that got those vehicles into the scheme. So if you had a vehicle that was retailing at almost $100000 they dropped overnight. Has there been any analysis of that in terms of how it affected the price of vehicles? I'd like to know those things.I'd also like to know whether there has been some reflection on the open letter that was received by the Minister from Drive Electric because my understanding is that that begged to have a meeting to talk about alternatives to dropping the scheme completely. I would like to know from the Minister: has he been in touch with that organisation has he had communication or have there been alternatives discussed? I heard my friend the Hon Julie Anne Genter talking about the possibility of a compromise on things like utes so that there might be an exemption scheme in place. Has that been discussed because I presume Drive Electric would have been one of the submitters in any process through a select committee and we would have heard from them? I think they're really good people and I know that they would have worked in good faith to produce some fiscally neutral alternatives if the Minister was unimpressed with this scheme. So has that communication gone on and if not why not? I'd like to know that.Those are some of the questions. I understand that Drive Electric have put the Minister on notice that if the scheme is removed it could dramatically disrupt electric vehicle sales in this country. I'd like to know if there's been any analysis of whether that is a likely outcome of dropping this scheme because we don't have an electric—[Time expired]