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Mallard Trevor:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12744. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I would just like to draw your attention to a discrepancy or an apparent discrepancy between the clocks that are currently in here. I know that members have been carefully timing their speeches for 9.55 p.m. which is the time when you have to report progress. But I note that it says 9.55 p.m. now on the clock that you are looking at but the one that I am looking at says 9.54 p.m. I would invite—Grant Robertson: From my angle it actually is 9.54 p.m. there.Hon TREVOR MALLARD: Is it? Do you think so? Fifty-four 55 56? I think it is probably appropriate to have an inquiry. I am sure that when it does get to 9.55 p.m. you will interrupt my point of order in order to report progress because that would be your obligation under the rules. The question is whether you are looking at the clock just in front of you or the one up there or the one over here.
Robertson H V Ross:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12744. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): I will report this bill with amendment.
Auchinvole Chris:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeAuchinvole Chris:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12734. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National):I moveThat the question be now put .
Mallard Trevor:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12733. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):Thank you Mr Chairman—Iain Lees-Galloway: Andrew Little is higher-ranked than Trevor Mallard is.Hon TREVOR MALLARD: Well that was an indication of someone who does not want to speak in the House for the rest of the year. Do not bother bringing a question to our procedures committee. I wonder whether the member wants to withdraw and apologise now. You know I might move a bit slowly on occasions but like an elephant I do not forget.My view is that Part 2 is a relatively simple part of the Inquiries Bill. It has been improved by Chris Tremain and his work—and I do want to welcome the new Minister in the chair Mr Borrows to the chair. I do not want to inquire as to what he has done wrong. I mean everyone else who has been involved in this—Mr Tremain has local government problems and is likely to have an inquiry as to his behaviour in the Hawke’s Bay. We have got Mr Guy whose lack of ability to run a ministry and the problems with Fonterra are going to be the subject of another inquiry. We have had Simon Bridges who will no doubt eventually be embarrassed into setting up an inquiry into the forestry industry.But I actually thought that of all the Ministers the Minister currently in the chair was in the clear and maybe that is why he is in the chair. Maybe he is in the chair because the Government has been so embarrassed by all the Ministers that it has had involved that it is getting in a clean Minister and he is one of the few who can do that.I think there have been some language changes in this part but I think probably the most important difference is in the new clause 7 of the bill set out on Supplementary Order Paper 330 which replaces the old clause 7 of the bill. Thesubstantive change is the ability to set up an inquiry with an inquirer—with a person who is going to be either the sole inquirer or the chair of the inquiry or even have other members as well—before the terms of reference are done. That is the essential change in here. I think it is a logical change. I think that on occasions people will want to get some things under way but not the hearing of the evidence. It does not allow for evidence to be heard but it means that there can be some more substantive consultation with those people who are going to be involved in the inquiry around the terms of reference and the details therein. So it is logical.I also think and I do not want to by any means criticise my colleague Grant Robertson but I think that over a period of 4 years the language has improved. It is easier—Grant Robertson: My language has improved over 4 years.Hon TREVOR MALLARD: Well my language has probably deteriorated. But the language of the bill has improved. It is easier to follow it is easier to read and it flows more logically and for that I am sure we thank officials rather than Ministers.
Robertson H V Ross:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12733. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Three to pick from eh? Oh I will have to go for seniority. So in that case I want to call the Hon Trevor Mallard.
Roy Eric:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12728. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): This is the debate on clauses 6 to 9.Hon Ruth Dyson: Mr Chairman.The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): Are you seeking the call?
Vote:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12728. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes119New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; Mana 1; United Future 1.Noes1Independent: Horan.Amendments agreed to.Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Simpson Scott:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12728. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel):I moveThat the question be now put .Motion agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 330 in the name of the Hon Chris Tremain to Part 1 be agreed to.
Horan Brendan:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHoran Brendan:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12727. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]BRENDAN HORAN (Independent):So “ … a zero was omitted from the figure so that it mistakenly became $1000.” I remind the House of this not to embarrass but to point out that stuff happens.Then I ask the Minister in the chair the Minister of Energy and Resources to turn his attention to schedule 2 of the revision-tracked Supplementary Order Paper 330 to the Inquiries Bill and the proposed new paragraph (ha)(i) of the definition of “official information” in section 2(1) of the Official Information Act which refers to “anymattter subject to an order”. Yes the word is spelt “mattter” with three “t”s. It is not self-deprecating humour because it has been there since 2009. How can anybody support this bill when there are these obvious mistakes these errors? I suppose this Government in its haste will just turn to Standing Order 312 and rely on the Clerk of the House to correct typographical errors. But that is not good enough and I cannot support this bill.I must say it is interesting that in earlier times in this House this Government was in such a rush that it would deny this member opportunities to speak in first readings second readings—not for 5 minutes not for 4 minutes—The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): Order! I have cautioned the member. We are on Part 1 and that is what he should be referring to.BRENDAN HORAN: Thank you Mr Chairperson. I cannot trust that this bill does not have any more errors in it and therefore I will not be supporting it.
Roy Eric:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12727. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): I am not accepting that—you have not used the right words.
Auchinvole Chris:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeAuchinvole Chris:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12727. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National):I move that the motion be now put.
Mallard Trevor:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12716. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):I will object then.Louise Upston: That’s fine.Hon TREVOR MALLARD: I think what the member just said is that there is going to be a limit of four speeches and what that does is cut out three-quarters of the ability or in fact 80 percent of the ability of members to make speeches. If that is what the National Party wants to do we will not grant leave.The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): OK are we very clear on the matter? Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Upston Louise:Inquiries Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUpston Louise:Inquiries Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12716. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]LOUISE UPSTON (Senior Whip—National):My understanding is that in the Committee stage the maximum number of calls per speaker is four and that will stand.
Vote: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12716. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill and the Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill be now read a third time.Ayes61New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes59New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 2; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bills read a third time.
Tisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12716. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): That is not a point of order. [Interruption ] Order! The member will sit. That is not a point of order; it is a matter between you and that party.Brendan Horan: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): The member will sit or he will leave. The member will sit or will leave.Brendan Horan: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. This is a new point of order.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): No the member will leave the House. The member will leave the House now.Brendan Horan withdrew from the Chamber.
Horan Brendan: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHoran Brendan: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12716. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillBRENDAN HORAN (Independent):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. When I was unceremoniously dumped from New Zealand First in this House—
Tisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12715. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): No no. You sought leave and leave was denied. It is your right to seek leave. It is the right of the House to determine otherwise.Brendan Horan: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): If the member is trifling with my rulings—Brendan Horan: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I will hear this one more and if it is like the other ones the member will have to go.
Horan Brendan: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHoran Brendan: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12715. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillBRENDAN HORAN (Independent):Given the long-term ramifications of this legislation I seek the leave of this House and of my colleagues to make a 4-minute contribution.
Tisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12715. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Horan Brendan: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHoran Brendan: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12715. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillBRENDAN HORAN (Independent):I seek leave for a 5-minute contribution.
Tisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12715. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): The House can decide. There is a point of order from Brendan Horan.
Tisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12715. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): This is a time-limited debate. There have been 12 speakers. The member can seek leave but I just remind the member that there have been 12 speakers and it is a time-limited debate. If the member wishes to seek leave he can.
Horan Brendan: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHoran Brendan: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12715. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillBRENDAN HORAN (Independent):Given the importance of this Government Communications Security Bureau legislation I seek the leave of the House and of my colleagues to make a very short 5-minute contribution to this debate.
Tisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12712. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman.Brendan Horan: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I was seeking the call and I was up before the honourable member.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Well I have called the Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman.
Tisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12710. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I understand that the next call is a split call. I call the Hon David Parker.
Robertson H V Ross: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12700. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Order! I never heard it but all members here are honourable and their word is their bond. If the member did use an unparliamentary term I would require him to stand and withdraw.Hon Christopher Finlayson: Why are different standards applied to members other than the special case Mr Mallard?The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Order! The member will be seated. He is now challenging my ruling and I am asking the member—all members are honourable; their word is their bond. If he used an unparliamentary term I am asking him to stand and withdraw please.Hon Christopher Finlayson: I withdraw.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Thank you very much.
Finlayson Christopher: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFinlayson Christopher: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12699. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General):I was simply repeating what Mr Mallard had said about the Prime Minister.
Robertson Grant: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson Grant: Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment Bill Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment Bill Intelligence and Security Committee Amendment Bill — Third Readings[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12699. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Government Communications Security Bureau Amendment BillInspector-General of Intelligence and Security Amendment BillGRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Leader—Labour):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I did not interrupt Dr Norman’s speech because I did not think that was fair but the Attorney-General used an extremely unparliamentary comment—a word that has been ruled out of order numerous times. I am not going to repeat it. He knows what it was. It was in reference to the leader of the Labour Party and I would ask that he withdraw and apologise.
Robertson H V Ross: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: General Debate[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12688. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): The time for this debate has expired.Mark Mitchell: Mr Speaker—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Oh I am sorry. I apologise. I call the honourable member Mark Mitchell. I am excited about what is coming next Mark.
Carter David: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: General Debate[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12685. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I know the remarks the member is referring to. On this occasion he was not accusing anybody of being a liar; he was simply saying “That’s a lie.” It is a robust debate. I do not think that on this occasion it was out of order.
Ross Jami-Lee: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: General Debate[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12685. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. During the speech from Mr Sabin a member of the Opposition was using some terms that clearly are unparliamentary. Can I ask that you consider asking him to withdraw and apologise to Mr Sabin.
Carter David: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: General Debate[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12682. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order!Maggie Barry: Point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: No there is no need to speak to the point of order. I certainly do not agree with the member that there was continuous and excessive interjection. There was certainly some interjection. This is the general debate. It is a robust debate. I suspect that although the member to whom you are referring has moved and I accept she has moved it is possibly because she is going to make a contribution to the general debate. I find that absolutely acceptable. [Interruption ] Order!
Mallard Trevor: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: General Debate[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12682. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I did not want to interrupt the speech and it was well handled but I think you may have noticed that a member shifted from her seat and more or less constantly interjected from the moment that she shifted. That is against the rules and it seemed to be an indication of an excessive lunch.
Carter David: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: General Debate[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12676. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member’s time has expired.
Fenton Darien: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFenton Darien: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12674. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]12.DARIEN FENTON (Labour)to theMinister of Labour: Does he believe that collective bargaining will increase or decrease as a result of his employment law changes in the Employment Relations Amendment Bill?Hon SIMON BRIDGES (Minister of Labour):Neither.Darien Fenton: Given that he says he will listen carefully to submissions will he change the legislation to strengthen collective bargaining if the evidence confirms the advice from his own officials that under his changes fewer collective agreements will be concluded?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: We are strengthening the collective processes and I will be listening.Darien Fenton: Has he seen OECD advice that the New Zealand labour market is one of the most deregulated labour markets in the developed world with one of the lowest rates of collective bargaining; if so why is he proposing law that will make collective bargaining harder than ever?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: No I have not but of course we also have a relatively lower unemployment rate when compared with other developed countries as well so it is possible there is a connection.Darien Fenton: Is he aware of advice from the industrial relations centre at Victoria University of Wellington that collective agreements increase wages for workers on individual agreements as well; if so why has he put up proposals to weaken collective bargaining which will have a knock-on effect for all workers?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: We simply are not going to be doing that. The fact of the matter is that what we are doing is avoiding ineffective and unnecessarily protracted collective bargaining. That is good for everyone concerned.
Goldsmith Paul: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGoldsmith Paul: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12668. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]8.PAUL GOLDSMITH (National)to theMinister of Local Government: What changes will the Government make to the Local Government Act 2002 to improve housing affordability?Hon CHRIS TREMAIN (Minister of Local Government):We will make changes to constrain the way councils charge developers for new sections. Some councils currently use development contributions to help pay for new art galleries botanic gardens and aquatic centres which leads to new home owners paying disproportionately for these facilities. We will now narrow the scope of development contributions to focus on the essentials such as network infrastructure and reserves that are directly associated with the new developments.Paul Goldsmith: Why do development contributions need to be constrained?Hon CHRIS TREMAIN: The previous Government expanded the scope of development contributions which saw these charges rise significantly over the last 10years. Development charges now average $14000 per section and can be up to $65000. In at least six provincial councils the average development charge is 10 percent of the average house price. These charges of course are passed on to homebuyers who pay a higher price as a result.Paul Goldsmith: What other changes have been announced as part of the development contribution reforms?Hon CHRIS TREMAIN: We will improve the transparency of development contributions and introduce an independent objections process. In addition we will expressly enable the private provision of infrastructure through development agreements. The changes to development contributions are part of a package of initiatives that prove that this Government is strongly focused on improving the affordability of houses for Kiwis.
Dunne Peter: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDunne Peter: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12665. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]6.Hon PETER DUNNE (Leader—United Future)to theMinister of Justice: Why were the Electoral Act 1993 and the Electoral Regulations 1996 excluded from the provisions of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002?Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Justice):A number of Acts and provisions were deliberately excluded from the Electronic Transactions Act when it was passed in 2002 under another Government. The Electoral Act and the Electoral Regulations were among those exclusions. The reason for their exclusion was the importance ofmaintaining a very high level of integrity and public confidence in our electoral system. I accept that things have changed since 2002 and there is now a greater expectation for information to be received and stored electronically. We engage in electronic transactions and communications constantly with online banking purchasing products and even ordering passports. I agree that the time has come when we should also be looking at a greater use of electronic data for all aspects of our electoral system. I have asked my officials and the Electoral Commission to consider ways in which this can be achieved while maintaining the very necessary high levels of security and public confidence in the system.Hon Peter Dunne: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. It was quite difficult to hear the last couple of sentences of the Minister’s answer. I wonder whether she could repeat them please.Mr SPEAKER: If the member had trouble hearing the last couple of sentences they will be repeated. But it just goes to show that it is not helpful when members are dissatisfied with the answer they are hearing to then let out a lot of interjection that makes it difficult for any member who particularly wants to hear the answers that are being given to hear them. Would the honourable Minister repeat the last two sentences.Hon JUDITH COLLINS: The last two sentences: I agree that the time has come when we should also be looking into the greater use of electronic data for all aspects of our electoral system. I have asked my officials and the Electoral Commission to consider ways in which this can be achieved while retaining the very high levels of security and public confidence in the system.Hon Peter Dunne: Does the Minister’s answer mean that she is prepared to look in the context of the forthcoming rewrite of the Electoral Act at changes to the law to ensure that where parties register members online those memberships will be accepted as valid?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Yes.Hon Peter Dunne: Is the Minister also prepared to consider as part of that review or changes to that legislation looking at providing for a mandatory audit by the Electoral Commission of all parties’ membership once every 3 years?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: I have not given that matter any thought but it is a matter that I could always discuss with the Electoral Commission.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12664. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: We have discussed this before. The Government has every right to transfer a question unless it is an opportunity whereby I do not believe that an answer would be adequately given.Rt Hon Winston Peters: He’s not arguing that.Mr SPEAKER: Would the Hon Winston Peters please stop interjecting while I am on my feet. On this occasion there is simply no point in putting the question of leave because the Government has already made its decision. If the Government wanted to seek leave it could do so—I doubt whether it wants to—but for the member to seek leave for the Government to do something is not acceptable. Does the member want to continue with the question?Dr Russel Norman: Point of order Mr Speaker. I—Mr SPEAKER: Order! Before the member starts I just want to check that this is a fresh point of order.Dr Russel Norman: This is in relation to your ruling.Mr SPEAKER: Is the member now questioning my ruling?Dr Russel Norman: No I am not questioning your ruling Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: Then the member will proceed to ask question No. 5.
Norman Russel: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNorman Russel: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12664. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr RUSSEL NORMAN (Co-Leader—Green):I seek leave to move this question back to the Minister of Finance.
Hauiti Claudette: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHauiti Claudette: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12662. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]3.CLAUDETTE HAUITI (National)to theMinister for the Environment: What recent announcements has the Government made relating to the improvement of planning frameworks under the Resource Management Act 1991?Hon AMY ADAMS (Minister for the Environment):Just over a week ago I announced that the Government would be undertaking the most comprehensive set of reforms of the Resource Management Act since its inception over 20 years ago primarily around improving the quality and effectiveness of our planning system. The reforms will address this by simplifying the planning framework and providing greater central government direction and consistency leaving local decision makers to focus on how those frameworks should apply in their communities. The reforms will be focusing decision making around proactive planning and enabling councils to get on with delivering those plans and making councils more accountable to their communities on how they are meeting all the needs of their communities. All in all this will address the huge wastage of time and money that currently occurs and that costs every one of us either directly or indirectly.Claudette Hauiti: Why has the Government identified planning as the key area for reform?Hon AMY ADAMS: It must always be remembered that the Resource Management Act is not just about environmental protection; it is also our planning law. It not only has to deal with managing the water in our catchments and the quality of our air but also has to deal effectively with providing for the functioning and development of our cities and our towns including public infrastructure like roads and schools. In this respect it has not been serving us well. When it costs more to get the consent than it does to do the job you have got a problem. Fundamentally these reforms are about providing greater certainty for communities to plan for and meet their areas’ needs in a way that reduces the unacceptable costs and delays that have become the norm.
Carter David: Points of Order — Greenhouse Gas Emissions 2020 Target—Leave to Move Motion Without NoticeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Points of Order — Greenhouse Gas Emissions 2020 Target—Leave to Move Motion Without Notice[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12659. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is objection. [Interruption ] Order!
Graham Kennedy: Points of Order — Greenhouse Gas Emissions 2020 Target—Leave to Move Motion Without NoticeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGraham Kennedy: Points of Order — Greenhouse Gas Emissions 2020 Target—Leave to Move Motion Without Notice[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12659. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without debate to acknowledge the unconditional targets for 2020 of the European Union and Switzerland of 20 percent of Norway of 30 percent—
Carter David: Obituaries — William Gerald TolhurstText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Obituaries — William Gerald Tolhurst[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12659. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Honourable members I regret to inform the House of the death on 18 August 2013 of William Gerald (Bill)Tolhurst who represented the electorate of Wanganui from 1969 to 1972. I desire on behalf of this House to express our sense of the loss we have sustained and our sympathy with the relatives of the late former member. I now ask members to stand with me and observe a period of silence as a mark of respect for his memory.Honourable members stood as a mark of respect.
Points of Order — Greenhouse Gas Emissions 2020 Target—Leave to Move Motion Without NoticeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePoints of Order — Greenhouse Gas Emissions 2020 Target—Leave to Move Motion Without Notice[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12659. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Points of OrderGreenhouse Gas Emissions 2020 Target—Leave to Move Motion Without NoticeDr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without debate to acknowledge the unconditional targets for 2020 of the European Union and Switzerland of 20 percent of Norway of 30 percent—Mr SPEAKER: Order! Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is objection. [Interruption ] Order!
Obituaries — William Gerald TolhurstText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeObituaries — William Gerald Tolhurst[Sitting date: 21 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12659. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Wednesday 21 August 2013Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.ObituariesWilliam GeraldTolhurstMr SPEAKER: Honourable members I regret to inform the House of the death on 18 August 2013 of William Gerald (Bill)Tolhurst who represented the electorate of Wanganui from 1969 to 1972. I desire on behalf of this House to express our sense of the loss we have sustained and our sympathy with the relatives of the late former member. I now ask members to stand with me and observe a period of silence as a mark of respect for his memory.Honourable members stood as a mark of respect.
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Vote: Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 07 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12513. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A personal vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 59Ardern J (P)Goff (P)MartinShearer (P)BeaumontGraham (P)Mathers (P)Sio (P)Browning (P)HagueMoroney (P)StewartClark (P)Harawira (P)Norman (P)Street (P)Clendon (P)HipkinsO’Connor D (P)Tirikatene (P)Cosgrove (P)Horan (P)O’Rourke (P)Turei (P)Cunliffe (P)Hughes (P)Parker (P)Turia (P)Curran(P)Huo (P)Peters (P)Twyford (P)Dalziel (P)Jones (P)Prasad (P)WalkerDelahunty (P)King A (P)ProsserWall (P)Dyson (P)Lees-Galloway (P)Robertson G (P)Whaitiri (P)Faafoi (P)Little (P)Robertson RWilliams (P)FentonLogieRocheWoodsFlavellLole-TaylorSage (P)Teller:Genter (P)Mackey (P)Sharples (P)MallardNoes 61Adams (P)Dunne (P)Key (P)Simpson (P)Ardern S (P)English (P)King CSmith (P)Auchinvole (P)Finlayson (P)Lee(P)Tisch (P)Bakshi (P)Foss (P)Lotu-Iiga (P)Tolley (P)Banks (P)Foster-Bell (P)McClay (P)Tremain (P)Barry (P)Goldsmith (P)McCully (P)Upston (P)Bennett D (P)Goodhew (P)McKelvieWagner (P)Bennett P (P)Groser (P)Mitchell (P)Wilkinson (P)Borrows (P)Guy (P)Ngaro (P)Williamson (P)Bridges (P)Hauiti (P)O’Connor S (P)Woodhouse (P)Brownlee (P)Hayes (P)Parata (P)YangCalder (P)Heatley (P)RossYoung (P)Carter (P)Henare (P)Roy (P)Coleman (P)Hutchison (P)RyallCollins (P)Joyce (P)Sabin (P)Teller:Dean (P)Kaye (P)Shanks (P)MacindoeAmendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 298 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 21 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 301 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 21 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 326 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 21 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.Bill reported without amendment.Report adopted.
Vote: Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 07 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12511. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes56New Zealand Labour 30 (Ardern J Beaumont Clark Cosgrove Cunliffe Curran Dalziel Dyson Faafoi Fenton Goff Hipkins Huo Jones King A Lees-Galloway Little Mackey Moroney O’Connor D Prasad Robertson G Robertson R Sio Shearer Tirikatene Twyford Wall Whaitiri Woods ); Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7;Māori Party 2; Mana 1; Independent: Horan; Other: Mallard.Noes63New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 2 (Parker Street ); ACT New Zealand 1; Independent: Dunne.Amendment not agreed to.Clause 19 agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 293 in the name of Iain Lees-Galloway to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 294 in the name of the Hon Ruth Dyson to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 295 in the name of Dr Rajen Prasad to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 296 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 297 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 298 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 299 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 300 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 301 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 302 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 303 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 20 be agreed to.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 326 in the name of Hon Trevor Mallard to add new clause 20 be agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 07 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12511. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): The question now is that clause 18 stand part but before we do that we have a number of amendments. The first one is in the name of the Hon Ruth Dyson. It is an amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 294. Supplementary Order Paper 294 Dr Prasad’s amendment in Supplementary Order Paper 295 and the Hon Trevor Mallard’s amendment in Supplementary Order Paper 297 are ruled out of order as being a direct negation of the question.Clause 18 agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 298 in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to clause 19 be agreed to.
Vote: Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Gambling (Gambling Harm Reduction) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 07 August 2013. Volume:692;Page:12511. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes53New Zealand Labour 30 (Ardern J Beaumont Cosgrove Cunliffe Curran Dalziel Dyson Faafoi Fenton Goff Hipkins Huo Jones King A Lees-Galloway Mackey Moroney O’Connor D Parker Prasad Robertson G Robertson R Sio Shearer Street Tirikatene Twyford Wall Whaitiri Woods ); Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes66New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 2 (Clark Little );Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; Independent: Dunne; Other: Mallard.Amendment not agreed to.Clause 16 agreed to.Clause 17 agreed to.