Verrall AyeshaHon Dr AYESHA VERRALL (Labour): I want to ask a set of questions around section 3A Purposes of this Act" in clause 5. I want to ask the Minister a series of questions about changes to the purpose of the Act and I want to understand why she has taken the approach she has. I want to understand better the direction she is seeking to chart in terms of tobacco control and the outcome she has said she is pursuing in terms of reducing the number of smokers. I want to first ask why the purpose has changed and in particular why the following provisions are removed from the purpose section of the Act. Why is it that the purpose statement that read "to prevent the harmful effect of other people's smoking on the health of others and especially on young people and children;" is now removed from the purpose of the Act? Second-hand smoke is a serious health issue. People can die from second-hand smoking. Tragically babies die from second-hand smoking through sudden unexpected death in infancy (SUDI). Second-hand smoke affects young people in their homes in their cars—which has been regulated against—and we also regulate smoking at schools. If I am to understand the Minister correctly she has stated she does not intend to change other elements of tobacco control away from what she said was working in the past. Yet we see in the purpose clause of this bill a removal of the idea that we should be preventing tobacco control impacting others when it does so as second-hand smoke. So I want to understand from the Minister why she is making this change.Secondly I want to understand why there is a change in the language with respect to marketing. As far as I have known up until this point—and we're working under urgency so we don't get the bill long in advance—I didn't understand that the Minister intended to bring changes around the laws for tobacco marketing. Yet in section 3A(e) we see that she has changed the language. It now reads "(e) to regulate and control the marketing". In 2022 the amendment Act said "to restrict" marketing. And indeed that is the point. We don't allow tobacco marketing in public places. We also have plain packaging—a change proudly brought in by a National Government as we heard during the second reading. So why has this language changed? Is there actually an intention to change how the marketing of tobacco or vaping products occurs in New Zealand? I think these are very important questions that have not been surfaced by our debate so far. And I do hope that we'll be able to get answers for those because of course as we've heard we have not been able to have a select committee on this bill. So we must get as clear answers as we can at this stage.The third area of changes in this purpose statement occur in multiple places in section 3A(e). We see that the emphasis is on "(e)(i) discouraging people especially children and young people from taking up smoking; and (ii) discouraging non-smokers especially children and young people from taking up vaping or using smokeless tobacco products; and (iii) encouraging people to stop smoking vaping or otherwise using regulated products; and (iv) discouraging people who have stopped smoking vaping or otherwise using regulated products from resuming smoking vaping or using regulated products;" and so on.The language in the previous Act said "preventing". That is much stronger language and so when we hear about the Minister's other plans which we're told will be the subject of a future Cabinet paper—and we recognise that we do have to wait to hear what these initiatives will be uncomfortable though that is—it does seem that there are rather large policy changes afoot here. So I'd like to understand that from the Minister."