Xu-Nan Lawrence; O'Connor GregDr LAWRENCE XU-NAN (Green): Thank you Mr Chair. I just have a very quick question. So just first of all thank you Mr Chair for the clarification before. I was a little bit late to the Chamber today but I would like to check if the Minister has responded to my question in the previous session around the definition. I think in this particular case Part 1 is—Ricardo Menéndez March: He hasn't.Dr LAWRENCE XU-NAN: —absolutely crucial—thank you. Part 1 is absolutely crucial when we're looking at the definition and interpretation particularly when we're looking at clause 4 because the interpretation of some of these terminologies has a fundamental impact on how we interpret the rest of the legislation.So if the Minister wouldn't mind just clarifying what I mentioned in terms of the definition of immediate family" in the previous session and who determines what is considered culturally recognised and whether paragraph (a) and (b) under "immediate family" are mutually exclusive or is paragraph (b) under "immediate family" an exhaustive list which then contradicts and potentially challenges what is considered culturally recognised. So that was my previous question if the Minister wouldn't mind clarifying.The question I have again around the clarification of terminology is about the term "serious offence". In this particular case when we're looking at the definition for a serious offence I wanted to check with the Minister first of all in paragraph (a) of the definition of "serious offence" it contains the same duration for a term of imprisonment that is defined in section 2(1) of the Crimes Act in terms of what is considered a serious violent offence.Now "violence" is an incredibly important keyword in the Crimes Act so I wanted to check with the Minister if the term that is a serious offence in this bill and a serious violent offence in the Crimes Act are considered synonymous because both of them carry the same term of imprisonment of seven years or more.The other question that I have in line with the serious offence question is around subparagraph (b)(iii) because it lists a number of subsections in the Crimes Act of which there are five of them pertaining to a variety of different terms. Each one of those terms in the Crimes Act carries a term of imprisonment of five years but (a) states "an offence that is punishable by a term of imprisonment of 7 years" so I wondered if the Minister wouldn't mind clarifying. What is the rationale of increasing that (a) to seven years instead of five when some of the other sections in (b) are giving other examples that pertain to a term of imprisonment that have a different year duration for that.So those are my two main questions. The first one is a clarification of "immediate family" and the second question has two parts the first part being whether the definition of "serious offence" and the definition of "serious violent offence" in the Crimes Act are synonymous. The second part of that is the rationale behind the term of imprisonment of seven years noting that in (b)(iii) all of those subsections from the Crimes Act carry a term of imprisonment of five years. Thank you.Hūhana Lyndon: Mr Chair.CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): Kahurangi Carter.Hūhana Lyndon: It's not Kahurangi. CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): Sorry have I got that wrong? Hūhana Lyndon—my apologies.Hūhana Lyndon: It's Hūhana. Kia ora.CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): It's a long way down there.Hūhana Lyndon: She's gorgeous so that's all right. I take it."