Mahuta NanaiaHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Minister for Māori Development): Actually I apologise to my colleague for cutting her off but I want to endorse all the comments that have made on this side of the Chamber to the Minister for your leadership in particular with the Government policy statement (GPS) because it was a result of some pretty careful thinking about what would best reflect the strategic approach to the housing aspirations of the Government within new legislation that you innovatively inserted the concept of a GPS.I wanted to highlight that because what that did in itself and for anyone who is listening to the debate is it elevated the responsibility of a Government to actually set out what the strategic plan is in terms of its housing strategy. But given that we have a very complex planning environment that there are challenging land assembly land availability aspects in order to ensure that good housing development can happen in urban areas the GPS is well positioned to actually cover many of those things. When we look at clause 24 it sets out what the GPS must include. I wanted to pick up briefly on a comment started by my colleague Angie Warren-Clark and raise a further question with the Minister in so far as clause 24(1)(e) says: The Government's expectations are in relation to Māori interests partnering with Māori and protections for Māori interests:" because I know that the substance of the bill—and while we're not on any other part but the substance of the bill actually highlights some elements that cut to this particular clause around having regard for Te Ture Whenua Maori Act 1993 and the way in which those interests must be considered within the context of a GPS and planning around those communities. The other question I had was around the level of public engagement. Clause 24A(b) sets out "consult Kāinga Ora—Homes and Communities and persons and representative groups of persons who have an interest in housing and urban development in New Zealand." and that applies to when the GPS is being prepared. Now that's a real different shift in thinking in terms of engaging the public in a conversation around a strategic document setting out the aspirations of what the Government will commit to in the housing space. I believe that holds faith with many New Zealanders who want to see smart urban development who want to be engaged in that question who want to ensure that their high value priorities are taken account of. So Minister if you could perhaps highlight how you see the level of engagement in the GPS occurring I'm sure many people who are listening to the debate will be encouraged by that insertion within the bill.The other component of the GPS—and it has been somewhat covered previously—was the Minister's call around what would be reviewable. Would the whole GPS be reviewable? Would you pick out parts of the GPS for specific reasons to actually have a more intensive look and what might you gain from that? But underpinning a review of the GPS could we be assured—could the Minister assure the committee—that the metrics used to I guess assess the strategy and the deliverables would remain consistent or would they be changed over time as well? I know many of these things you've given quite considered thought to and it would be a real opportunity for people who are listening to the debate again to gain greater insight as to why the GPS approach was favoured in order to set out the strategic aspirations of the Government and how it will achieve its housing priorities and investment.There is a small but germane clause—part of clause 24(2)—which reads "The GPS may include any other matters the Ministers consider relevant." Now we have covered some of those issues. It could be in relation to climate change and the impact on communities. But again to assure the committee around some of the thinking that underpins that particular clause is this a wide scope of matter or is this more germane to housing-specific issues or what? I think that would be a very helpful set of questions for the Minister to respond to. But finally for the innovation to insert the GPS into this legislation Minister Twyford you can take all the credit."