Xu-Nan LawrenceDr LAWRENCE XU-NAN (Green): Thank you Mr Chair. So thank you to the Minister for answering some of those questions but he does actually raise further clarifications that it would be good to hear from the Minister on. But I kind of want to start with a big picture question. So going through the regulatory impact statement one of the things that did come out is some of the recommendations or suggestions from the prisoners themselves because this is a bill that affects our prisoner whānau immensely. So I wanted to ask a big picture question from the Minister first which is what kind of consultation and what sort of recommendation was taken on board from prisoners when this bill was particularly drafted?So going on to the specific elements again we're also sort of working through this because Part 1 is quite substantial and it covers a lot of different areas. So in order for us to sort of do collective thinking and moving at a pace we're also going to go through it systematically through the clauses.So I'd also like to discuss in terms of clause 4(4) around interpretation. Now we heard from the Minister around the fact that it's not appropriate to have offence-based rehabilitation to those on remand but I wanted to check from the Minister one additional clarification because that's to do with subclause (4) of clause 4 where it talks about accused prisoner—(b) does not include a prisoner who is on remand awaiting sentence". I know there's a later clause that other people may address in clause 11A around rehabilitation for those who are on remand awaiting sentence but I want to just check over here what was the rationale behind specifying what we have here in essentially three stages: accused prisoner who is awaiting trial on remand prisoners who are on remand awaiting sentence and then prisoners post-sentence.So I'm assuming that from the Minister's perspective that the treatment of each of these three groups would be quite distinct. But I do want to know whether the prisoners who are on remand awaiting sentence should have—accused prisoners and prisoners who are on remand awaiting sentence what is the duration we're looking at here? Because one of the things the Minister addressed is the length of time that we have with prisoners on remand and that's one of the issues of why we have such a high remand population in Aotearoa. But what are some of the thinkings around splitting those two off specifically?And coming over also to the point that the Minister has mentioned around the presumption of innocence—and particularly I'm looking at the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act (NZBORA) section 25(c) around people who are provided the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. How does NZBORA then tie into these two categories of remand that have been created as a part of the definition of accused prisoners?And finally one other area that we haven't heard from the Minister yet and our colleague Hon Dr Duncan Webb has mentioned is in terms of the removal of cultural activities. Other people may have further to say around the removal of clause 6A around Tiriti o Waitangi but I as a Chinese person would like to focus on that element of cultural activities. The link I want to draw to is in the regulatory impact statement paragraph 189 which is talking about feedback on Te Tiriti. And one of the things I want to talk about is ensuring that Māori are not at risk for speaking te reo. I wanted to check whether the removal of cultural activities would then have inadvertent effect on the sort of treatment that people will have particularly from a migrant background when they are speaking in their own reo when they're speaking their own language in the prison system and how that would be addressed by the corrections facilities.So the questions would be around the three different types of prisoners and particularly the two types of prisoners that have been created with the definition of accused prisoner and also in terms of speaking their own language and the impact of that with the removal of cultural activities. Thank you."