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Cameron Mark; Brooking RachelMARK CAMERON (ACT): Thank you Mr Chair and thank you Minister for the opportunity to discuss the very issues that are salient to the fisheries industry. I'm cognisant of the short time afforded to me so I'll be succinct in my questions if I can be. From 2019 to 2025 was the length of the period assigned for the cameras on boats roll-out. You've said that to use your words some went live. What's the number that went live? I am interested in the disparities between the coastal commercial fishery's reality and fleet and the deep-water fleet and where these cameras have been rolled out. Is it the coastal commercial sector or is it afforded to the deep-sea fleet?There are a couple of notable points that I think we need to canvass. What current technology are you aware of as the Minister beyond cork lines lead lines and knotless technology that's in the industry? As you can appreciate the coastal commercial fleet is concerned about bycatch and how this technology is going to be rolled out over the next four years given that the fisheries amendment bill was recently passed. So how will this data sharing be utilised in terms of helping with the roll out of further technology and in what industry? Is it the coastal commercial or deep-sea fleet?Hon RACHEL BROOKING (Minister for Oceans and Fisheries): In terms of the cameras that have gone live as of Tuesday there are 23 boats 23 vessels. There are numerous cameras on those different boats and it is the inshore fleet. The rationale for this is of course that those boats are smaller than what we've got in the deep water and it's often difficult to get observers on those boats. The area that's been prioritised is the west of the North Island because of the Māui dolphin habitat.In terms of other technology the data sharing will help with all of the different management that goes on in the fisheries in terms of setting the catch limits and the like and working out what fish are being discarded or not being discarded. It will help with the overall management.In terms of other technology I'm not sure if the member was just referring to the camera technology which of course is using AI as well but there are things in development and things that are being used at the moment like hook pods. I have one in my office if the member's interested in seeing one. These are contraptions that go over the sharp end of the hook and they are released when the hooks are at a depth where a seabird can longer dive.Of course there are other issues like the actual nets—that's not quite the right word. There is the precision seafood harvesting as well so those are a still a trawl but it's a much longer net and it allows smaller fish to get out. So there's lots happening in the technology but there is more to do.
Brooking RachelHon RACHEL BROOKING (Minister for Oceans and Fisheries): Thank you to the member Angela Roberts for that overview of our time in select committee. I thought it would just be useful if I touched on a couple of things that have happened since the hearing at select committee.One of those is of course that cameras on boats went live on Tuesday 1 August. This is a really good news story in terms of the information that we can gather from those cameras will very much help with our understanding of what's going on out there in the oceans. Of course the first cameras that have gone live have been prioritised to areas where there are marine mammals. We are expecting another 70 to go live by the end of the year and overall 300 boats will have those cameras operational. I was very fortunate to visit one of these boats the other day and to see the cameras in action—they're in action on the deck—and you can see what's going on when you're inside the boat.We've also had a lot of feedback on the draft Fisheries Industry Transformation Plan. That final one will be released very soon.Today some of you may have heard that we have introduced the Fisheries (International Fishing and Other Matters) Amendment Bill. That's really trying to deal with some of the activity that goes on in particular on the high seas that's illegal. I've been continuing to work with the Minister of Conservation on both SEMP—the South-East Marine Protection Forum—and the Hauraki Gulf as well. I'll leave it there and I look forward to your questions.
Chhour Karen; Davis Kelvin; O'Connor GregKAREN CHHOUR (ACT): Thank you Mr Chair. We've heard recently that you were very happy—sorry I've lost my page—with the housing and working with other organisations. But there's a concern that actually there are still children staying in motels and the average stay is about four nights. But we also have one poor rangitahi that stayed for two years in a motel in emergency care waiting for a place to be. So do we know what number right now of children in the care of Oranga Tamariki are staying in emergency housing right now?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Children): Look first of all just to dispel a myth that these kids are left to their own devices in a motel. Now I don't think that there's many—I'm sorry I'll have to come back to the member with the exact numbers—but when they are on very rare occasions in emergency housing they do have full-time caregivers social workers or community providers with them making sure that their needs are being met. Sometimes sadly that sort of situation is the safest place for them to be.CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): Sorry the time has come for the Minister to leave the chair. Thank you Minister.
Estimates Debate — Children
Chhour Karen; Kanongata'a Anahila; Davis KelvinKAREN CHHOUR (ACT): Thank you Mr Chair. In the case of short time left I'll try and get a couple of questions in at the same time. The reason I'm asking these questions is because we're constantly hearing that the number of children in care has gone down and I'm concerned that actually they're not safe and that we're not actually investigating things properly. So in the same report it said the trend of number of reports of concern being assessed within 20 working days as required by Oranga Tamariki policy in 2019 41 percent were done within the 20 working days and it's just kept dropping year after year. So now in 2021 to 2022 it's only at 22 percent Minister—22 percent meet that time frame. Also looking at reviewing support plans there's been a decrease in the number of caregiver support plans being reviewed following allegations of abuse or neglect relating to a child or young person who's being looked after by a caregiver. Last year the review took place and it was 62 percent of cases and this year it's only 43 percent of cases. Are we actually making sure that our young people are safe? ANAHILA KANONGATA'A (Labour): Thank you Mr Chair. It's good to hear from the Minister that there's a reduction of 25 percent of children in care and that 78 percent of those children in care are placed with whānau and in their community. Also good to hear there were $55 million invested in iwi Māori partnerships. So my question in terms of going forward is: how is Oranga Tamariki planning to further partner with iwi and Māori organisations to deliver services to tamariki rangatahi and their whānau through to 2023-2024 appropriations?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Children): Thank you and I would like to thank the member for the questions. In terms of working with communities it is the big drive. We know that communities have been asking for the ability to care for the needs of their young people. They have the solutions within themselves and we have nine prototypes already up and running and there are another 10 partnerships with communities around the country. I feel it's really important that we continue to expand the numbers of partnerships and the prototypes that are recurring around the country because there are skills that they have. I spoke a bit about what's happening in Ngāti Kahungunu and of course up in Kaitaia we have TE ATATŪ it is called—it's not to be confused with Te Atatū in West Auckland but that's the name of the programme where basically iwi are making the call in a number of areas and we're starting to see really good results on that.
Chhour Karen; Hipango Harete; Davis KelvinKAREN CHHOUR (ACT): Thank you Mr Chair. Just further to that in the same report it showed that 32 percent of tamariki were placed with caregivers for full assessments of the caregiver and their household or a provisional approval was completed—32 percent Minister. Is that good enough that only 32 percent of tamariki were placed with caregivers before a full assessment was made and does this include when they're going back to whānau hapū or iwi whether these assessments were made or are those different assessments?HARETE HIPANGO (National): I'm going to repeat the question that I asked which is the second part of my first question. It's noted that there's been a considerable increase for Oranga Tamariki to maintain its purchasing power of its partner-provided services some $15.6 million increase. It's also noted that there's an almost $25.5 million increase for the initiative Transforming the Care System. However that is offset Minister by a reduction in funding of $8 million for supporting social service providers. Could the Minister clarify who those social services who are going to be at a loss of the $8 million funding are and who are those being targeted for the purchasing power of its partner-provided services with that additional $15 million increase? Who's benefiting in the community and who's not?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Children): OK. In the interests of time sorry I'd just like to address Karen Chhour's questions first; there are only six minutes and I just wanted a few more questions to come out. So in terms of the no further action" and the numbers that you said action was still taken as part of the social work plan in most cases and these were individually followed up. In terms of the safety checks initial checks such as police checks and home checks are routinely completed prior to the full assessment. In terms of Harete Hipango's response to her question—so Oranga Tamariki in 2022 undertook a review of provider funding to ensure funding is aligned with its strategic direction. Oranga Tamariki made initial proposals to change funding contracts with 187 provider organisations nationally. After feedback from communities and from the providers changes were made to the funding of 132 providers revolving around 35 million providers in the 2022-23 year. Decisions were made on a case-by-case basis considering tamariki and whānau needs and followed feedback and proposals from providers and the community."
Chhour Karen; Davis KelvinKAREN CHHOUR (ACT): Thank you Mr Chair. I'd just like to go to reports from the Independent Children's Monitor. They don't seem to improve each time we appear before you. I just want to clarify some data that has come about in the latest Independent Children's Monitor 2021-22.It found that Oranga Tamariki made 45 percent of their no further action" decisions were incorrect. Out of 137 reports of concern for tamariki in care they found that 62 of these "no further action" decisions were incorrect. Does that mean that we are not looking into these reports of concern well enough that we're not taking the care and the time that we need to when we're finding that those "no further action" decisions were incorrect? Are we putting our young people in further danger by not assessing these reports of concern correctly?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Children): That's a good question. We need to make sure that when assessments are made they are accurate and the needs of the young people are being met.One of the benefits of iwi-led and community-led involvement is we're now starting to hear that they wish to—just because there is a case reported and it is deemed to have "no further action required" those iwi and those communities are saying "That is still a whānau within our community that we want to have on our radar and that we would like to do further work with them."I do take the member's point: that we need to make sure that in those cases they are assessed properly but it's also positive looking towards the future that iwi are now saying that even if there is deemed to be "no further action required" they still want to be able to work with those whānau just follow up and to have ongoing involvement to make sure that they are getting the support that they need."
Logie Jan; Davis KelvinJAN LOGIE (Green): Thank you Mr Chair. I also want to echo what the Minister was saying in terms of surprise that this work and that detailed work hasn't been done already. I remember when the National Party was last in Government and were making reforms that that was supposedly a central focus. So it is quite shocking to me and I suspect reflects a lot of our young people's sense of frustration and concern that not enough has been done. They've heard the rhetoric for so long and maybe hopefully now are just starting to see the results. So I look forward to when we see that mapped out and also assume that speeding up the public housing provision and the possibility of rent controls may be something the Minister might want to advocate for in terms of ensuring those young people who are wanting to be independent can do so realistically in our economic settings.I'm also interested in terms of the second promise where we all said that we would make sure young people in our care have safety and stability in their life and they note that they're not being provided yet with that stability when they enter care and caregivers aren't consistently assessed before they're placed with them and they're not being kept safe when they're in care particularly in residences and we've had quite a lot of conversation about that. But I'm interested to know in terms of that assessment as well as the transition into care how many social workers there are and what there caseloads are. I know that training is going in but we know that historically the caseloads have been well above—three times above at one point—international best practice.I'm really interested to know if we're making progress on that because if we're going to have this system for a little while then we need to make sure that the staff are able to build those relationships and support those young people.Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Children): I thank the member for her question. One of the things we found out in the development of the Future Direction Plan was that the caseloads were way too high but secondly that measuring actual numbers of cases is probably not the best measure and it's more a measure of workload because one case may take up a huge amount of time and resources for a single social worker. So what Oranga Tamariki is doing through the Future Direction Plan is looking to improve the workload—have a look at the workloads of social workers not just count the number of cases. Somebody might have a couple of dozen cases that have less work than someone who's got half a dozen cases. So the workload is probably more important to address than the exact numbers of caseload.
Logie Jan; Davis KelvinJAN LOGIE (Green): Thank you Madam Chair. I welcome the opportunity to engage with the Minister in this. It's a really important area and it's been a tough few years I think it's worth acknowledging.I want to pick up on possibly predictably VOYCE - Whakarongo Mai's calls to different parties around the promises that we've committed to and explore in a little bit more detail some of those and the Government actions and sense of time frame on it. The first thing they noted is that we've promised to take care of young people in care and make sure that they all have what they need and yet many are experiencing housing insecurity and homelessness and that's happening far too often.Today in question time the Minister noted that through the plan there are 65 new placements that are being put in place and homes being built particularly for disabled young children. I'm interested to know in terms of those places actually what percentage of need is being met now? When does the Minister expect every young person coming out of care or in care to have appropriate housing? Is there a sense of time frame around that?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Children): I thank the member for the question. It is very important. As part of the Oranga Tamariki Action Plan we've done a number of deep dives which is I guess bureau-speak" for doing a needs analysis of what we actually have in it. First of all I'm surprised that these deep dives these needs analyses haven't been done before. What it has shown is that there are massive gaps in the provision of support for our young people in particular those who are transitioning from care into the community.In terms of housing in particular the deep dive there highlighted I think that over the next couple of years there are about 5000 young people who will be transitioning out of care but there are only about 150 beds to cater for those numbers. Now that's over a number of years that those young people will be transitioning from care into the community. Some of them may go back to their caregivers some may go home but many want to be independent and they want to be able to flat and live with friends.So what we've done is got the baseline and now that we know the extent of the problem that's where we have to work to address it. I'm sorry that I can't give a definitive date to meet that extreme need—you know that need of those 5000 people over the next few years.The most important message I guess is that now we know the extent of the problem it's time to address it. It's just a pity it's taken so long to actually quantify the extent of the need."
Salesa JennyESTIMATES DEBATEIn CommitteeDebate resumed from 2 August on the Appropriation (2023/24 Estimates) Bill.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): Kia orana members. The House is in committee for further consideration of the Appropriation (2023/24 Estimates) Bill. The Business Committee has determined to organise the debate by portfolio so there will be no sector-specific debates. All votes are available for debate but only specific Ministers will be available each day to speak to the indicated portfolios only. The Government has indicated that today we have the Minister for Children the Minister for Oceans and Fisheries and the Minister for Social Development and Employment. Each debate will be led by a call from the chairperson or member of the committee that considered the Estimates most closely related to the Minister's portfolios.This debate expires after 11 hours at which point questions will be put that the votes stand part of the Schedules and on the provisions of the Appropriation (2023/24) Estimates Bill. There are four hours and 29 minutes remaining in this debate. New Zealand Labour has one hour 47 minutes remaining. The New Zealand National Party has one hour 33 minutes remaining. ACT New Zealand has 30 minutes remaining. The Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand has 31 minutes remaining. Te Paati Māori has 11 minutes remaining. Dr Elizabeth Kerekere has six minutes remaining and the Hon Meka Whaitiri has six minutes remaining.The Estimates debate should be relevant to the Government's current spending plans as contained in the Estimates of Appropriation. A compendium of the reports of select committees on the votes is available on the Table.The question once again is that the votes contained in the Estimates of Appropriation for 20232024 stand part of the Schedules. Members we start with the Minister for Children. The Minister is available from 3.50 p.m. until 4.20 p.m.
Debate on Regulations Review Committee report on the Inquiry into COVID-19 Secondary Legislation
Personal Explanations
Davidson MaramaPERSONAL EXPLANATIONSAppropriation (2023/24 Estimates) Bill—Correction to Answer Given by Associate Minister of Housing (Homelessness)Hon MARAMA DAVIDSON (Associate Minister of Housing (Homelessness)): Point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave to make a personal statement to correct something that I said a couple of nights ago during the committee stage of the Appropriation (2023/24 Estimates) Bill debate. SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There appears to be none.Hon MARAMA DAVIDSON: A couple of nights ago I said that the actual funds have already been devolved out to Te Matapihi and Arohanui ki te Tāngata." as part of He Ara Hiki Mauri. What I meant to say is that the decision-making authority over the funding will be devolved out to the parties. The funds will be paid out in due course through usual contracting processes."
Rurawhe AdrianPETITIONS PAPERS SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLSSPEAKER: No petitions have been delivered for presentation. No papers have been delivered for presentation. A select committee report has been delivered for presentation.CLERK: Report of the Governance and Administration Committee on the St Peter's Parish Endowment Fund Trust Bill.SPEAKER: That bill is set down for second reading. The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of bills.CLERK: Fisheries (International Fishing and Other Matters) Amendment Bill introductionHuman Rights (Prohibition of Discrimination on Grounds of Gender Identity or Expression and Variations of Sex Characteristics) Amendment Bill introductionMedicines (Exemption for Authorised Prescribers) Amendment Bill introductionRestoring Citizenship Removed By Citizenship (Western Samoa) Act 1982 Bill introduction.SPEAKER: Those bills are set down for first reading.
Robertson Grant; Woodhouse MichaelBUSINESS STATEMENTHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Leader of the House): Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday 15 August. In that week the Estimates debate will conclude with appearances by Ministers in the local government justice and transport portfolios. Legislation to be considered during the week include the third reading of the Natural and Built Environment Bill and the Spatial Planning Bill the committee stage of the Water Services Entities Amendment Bill and the Education and Training Amendment Bill (No 3) the second reading of the Integrity Sport and Recreation Bill and the Fuel Industry (Improving Fuel Resilience) Amendment Bill and the first reading of the Whakatōhea Claims Settlement Bill. Wednesday is scheduled to be a members' day and there will also be six valedictory statements during the week.Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National): I thank the Leader of the House for that update. Amongst the many bills they seek to progress before the House rises for the general election is it his expectation that the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill will be progressed given the rather strident select committee commentary about that bill?Hon GRANT ROBERTSON (Leader of the House): As the member indicates the Government has a busy work programme with a lot of bills on the list. We will attempt to advance as many of them as we possibly can.
Dean JacquiTHURSDAY 3 AUGUST 2023The Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.KARAKIA/PRAYERSHon JACQUI DEAN (Assistant Speaker): Almighty God we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests we acknowledge the King and pray for guidance in our deliberations that we may conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom justice mercy and humility for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen.
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Education and Training Amendment Bill (No 3) — Second Reading
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Education and Training Amendment Bill (No 3) be now read a second time.Ayes 74New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 8; Te Paati Māori 2; Kerekere; Whaitiri.Noes 41New Zealand National 31; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.Bill read a second time.
Water Services Entities Amendment Bill — Second Reading
VoteASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is That the amendments recommended by Governance and Administration Committee by majority be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 70New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 7; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Amendments agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the Water Services Entities Amendment Bill be now read a second time.Ayes 70New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 7; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Motion agreed to.Bill read a second time.
Spatial Planning Bill — In Committee—Clauses 1 and 2
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2 Whaitiri.Motion agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That clause 1 be agreed to.Ayes 70New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 7; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Clause 1 agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That clause 2 be agreed to.Ayes 70New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 7; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Clause 2 agreed to.Bill to be reported with amendment.House resumed.
Wednesday 2 August 2023 - Volume 770
Spatial Planning Bill — In Committee—Part 3
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Motion agreed to.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is that the Minister's tabled amendment to clause 62 and amendments to Part 3 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 390 be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Amendments agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Part 3 as amended be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Part 3 as amended agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Schedule 1 be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Schedule 1 agreed to.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is that the Minister's amendment to Schedule 2 set out in Supplementary Order Paper 390 be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Amendment agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Schedule 2 as amended be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Schedule 2 as amended agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Schedule 3 be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Schedule 3 agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Schedule 4 be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Schedule 4 agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Schedule 5 be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Schedule 5 agreed to.
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 75New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Te Paati Māori 2; Kerekere; Whaitiri.Noes 44New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is that the Minister's tabled amendment to clause 21 and the Minister's amendment to Part 2 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 390 be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Amendments agreed to.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is that Simon Court's amendment to Part 2 set out Supplementary Order Paper 395 be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 44New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.Noes 75New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Te Paati Māori 2; Kerekere; Whaitiri.Amendment not agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Part 2 as amended be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Spatial Planning Bill — In Committee—Part 2
VoteDr EMILY HENDERSON (Labour—Whangārei): I move That the question be now put.
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the motion be agreed to.Ayes 74New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Te Paati Māori 2; Kerekere.Noes 44New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.The result corrected after originally being announced as Ayes 73 Noes 44.
12. Question No. 12—ChildrenDEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader—Te Paati Māori) to the Minister for ChildrenQuestion No. 12—Children12. DEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader—Te Paati Māori) to the Minister for Children: Does he stand by all his statements and actions regarding Oranga Tamariki?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Children): Yes in the context they were given—in particular the move to transfer resources and decision making closer to iwi and communities. There have been nine prototypes and 10 partnerships established which moves decision making closer to communities and their whānau.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Does he stand by his statement in response to allegations of sexual abuse that care and protection residences need to be shut down sooner than later"?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Yes I do.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: What specific progress if any has been made to shut down these facilities?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Well there's a bit of a process that needs to happen. For example you can't just close down care and protection residences and put the kids just in the community when they need to be specialised designed homes. We expect them to be—Hon Paul Goldsmith: Aren't you building two new ones?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: —smaller. No we're not building more care and protection homes. That was a different announcement Mr Goldsmith. But there has to be a planning process to be gone through so it does take time. There has to be a transition into the new format.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Does he accept the need for urgency in closing these facilities down given that studies have shown that one-in-three children placed in residential care by the State ended up in prison later in life?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Well there's a number of reasons why children may end up in prison later on in life and it's often the home environment that they came from; it's not just what happens to them when they are in the care of the State.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: What is his response to the finding of the Waitangi Tribunal that the Crown removal of mokopuna Māori into State care is a profound and ongoing breach of Te Tiriti o Waitangi?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Well what I think is that the Māori Party's decision to disestablish one bureaucracy and build another bureaucracy isn't going to actually address the myriad of issues that need to be addressed.Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: Then you'll love this question: will he support the establishment of an independent mokopuna Māori authority responsible for ensuring our mokopuna are cared for and remain in the whānau hapū and iwi; if not why not?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: For the very reason I just said: that replacing one bureaucracy with another bureaucracy that will end up telling Ngāpuhi Muriwhenua and Ngāti Kahungunu what to do with their tamariki is the wrong move. So replacing one bureaucracy with another is a backward step."
10. Question No. 10—PoliceHon MARK MITCHELL (National—Whangaparāoa) to the Minister of PoliceQuestion No. 10—Police10. Hon MARK MITCHELL (National—Whangaparāoa) to the Minister of Police: Does she stand by her statement It is my view that New Zealanders feel safer"; if so why?Hon GINNY ANDERSEN (Minister of Police): As with the past 12 times I stand by my full statement at the time it was given. It is my view that New Zealanders feel safer with a Government on track to deliver 1800 extra police. I also support the comments recently made by deputy commissioner Jevon McSkimming via email for police to focus on prioritising front-line service delivery. Finally I stand by this Government's decision to increase Vote Police funding by 50 percent an increased constabulary by more than 1800 since coming into Government. That stands in stark contrast to the last Government who had an effective funding freeze for police and a reduction in the real number of our front-line staff.Hon Mark Mitchell: Does she agree with the Deputy Prime Minister who said of crime in Auckland "Oh I wouldn't say it's bad at all."?Hon GINNY ANDERSEN: We know that we have an issue with crime and I think that the complete quote of that member was taken out of context. What that member knows—who frequently uses quotes out of context as we well know in this House—is that this Government has a strong track record on delivering and by doing that is rolling out situations such as the tactical response model and also by making sure our front line are the best resourced that they ever have been.Hon Mark Mitchell: Does she agree with Police Association president Chris Cahill's assessment that the front line is totally overwhelmed by the increase in crime under this Government?Hon GINNY ANDERSEN: I know firsthand from speaking with front-line staff that the two main demand pressures we see are the increase in family violence reports and also through mental health—two areas which we take seriously and have work programmes in place to make sure front-line police get all the support they need and also by adequately resourcing the front line.Hon Mark Mitchell: Well after six years why haven't you been able to deal with those issues?Hon GINNY ANDERSEN: We continue to resource our front line far better than we ever saw that Government do. And we know that what happened under National was that our front line were under-resourced that those ratios dropped and that over 30 community police stations across New Zealand were shut."
6. Question No. 6—HousingANGIE WARREN-CLARK (Labour) to the Minister of HousingQuestion No. 6—Housing6. ANGIE WARREN-CLARK (Labour) to the Minister of Housing: What recent announcements has she made regarding affordable housing?Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Housing): On Sunday I announced a number of key changes to the Progressive Home Ownership scheme or the PHO. PHO helps people who would otherwise struggle to get a mortgage to buy their own homes and give their families security. Our landmark PHO scheme will now reach more potential first-home buyers by allowing existing homes to be bought through the scheme increasing the income cap and allowing intergenerational families to apply as a group. This means more homes to choose from in more locations and will help make homeownership a reality for more New Zealanders.Angie Warren-Clark: What progress has been made with the Progressive Home Ownership scheme so far?Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: Since the PHO scheme was launched in 2020 hundreds of eligible families who would otherwise never have been able to buy their own home have now been able to do so when they have been able to go and get a house built. So far 978 homes have been contracted with the support of the PHO Fund and 512 households have moved into their new homes. The changes I announced this week will assist as many people as possible into homeownership and ensure that the programme remains effective in the current economic environment.Angie Warren-Clark: Who will benefit most from the changes to the Progressive Home Ownership scheme?Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: I've met people whose lives are transformed by the opportunities offered by Progressive Home Ownership. The changes will provide further help to more potential home buyers who fall outside of the banks' criteria for lending. The inclusion of existing homes in the scheme will provide better opportunities for those with larger or intergenerational households and it will mean those living in areas where there aren't as many new builds being delivered such as rural areas can purchase homes through the PHO.Angie Warren-Clark: What reaction has she seen from the sector?Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: From what I have seen the reaction from the sector to the changes has been positive. For example I heard Julie Scott the executive officer of the Queenstown Lakes Community Housing Trust say in an interview with Mike Hosking on Newstalk ZB—hello Mike; I know you're listening—that she was a big fan of the fund and that she thinks these changes will make a positive difference to enabling it to be rolled out at a faster pace.Angie Warren-Clark: What recent announcements has she made regarding the Affordable Housing Fund?Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: On Sunday I also announced that more affordable rentals are being built with Government support from the Affordable Housing Fund. The Government is enabling 92 affordable rentals around the country through six new partnerships through the fund. These projects are at various stages of development and will be delivered between July 2023 and June 2027 in Auckland Rotorua Hastings Wellington and Nelson where there is significant rental stress.
2. Question No. 2—Workplace Relations and SafetyANGELA ROBERTS (Labour) to the Minister for Workplace Relations and SafetyQuestion No. 2—Workplace Relations and Safety2. ANGELA ROBERTS (Labour) to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: What announcements has she made about addressing modern slavery?Hon CARMEL SEPULONI (Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety): On Friday I announced that the Government has worked alongside business to deliver on our commitment to address modern slavery. We will introduce new legislation that requires organisations and businesses to be transparent about their operations and supply chains through a new public register. This new disclosure system will be among the strongest in the world at tackling modern slavery. This is not only about making sure people are treated fairly; it's also about doing good business.Angela Roberts: How big of an issue is modern slavery?Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: Since the pandemic we've seen modern slavery bloom globally. The International Labour Organization and Walk Free now estimate that 50 million people are in modern slavery on any given day. World Vision estimates Kiwi households are inadvertently paying an average of $34 each week to industries whose products are implicated in modern slavery. While we rank 12th lowest out of 160 countries for prevalence of modern slavery domestically we know there is real risk that Kiwi businesses and organisations must address in their supply chains and operations.Angela Roberts: Who was involved in designing this disclosure system?Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: The Government convened a Modern Slavery Leadership Advisory Group chaired by former Air New Zealand CEO Rob Fyfe who bought industry knowledge and expertise to help inform what steps we could take to address modern slavery. In 2021 the Government received an open letter signed by over 100 businesses and a petition signed by 37000 people calling for this modern slavery legislation. The public consultation also received over 5000 submissions and an overwhelming 95 percent of submitters supported the proposed disclosure responsibilities. We have heard the calls for modern slavery legislation loud and clear—Christopher Luxon: Heard the calls after 6 years—you've heard the calls!Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: —from those that this legislation directly affects and the other side of the House who are interjecting they didn't do it during their nine years.Angela Roberts: Why is this important for our trading relationship?Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: We have commitments in our free-trade agreements with the United Kingdom and the European Union to take steps to prevent modern slavery in our supply chains and promote responsible business conduct. A lack of action would be detrimental to our trading relationship. It's important we continue to bolster New Zealand's transparent and ethical reputation within our export markets and on the global stage.
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Parental Leave and Employment Protection (Shared Leave) Amendment Bill — First Reading
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Parental Leave and Employment Protection (Shared Leave) Amendment Bill be now read a first time.Ayes 57New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Te Paati Māori 2; Kerekere; Whaitiri. Noes 62New Zealand Labour 62.Motion not agreed to.
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Fair Trading (Gift Card Expiry) Amendment Bill be now read a first time.Ayes 109New Zealand Labour 62; New Zealand National 34; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Te Paati Māori 2; Kerekere; Whaitiri.Noes 10ACT New Zealand 10. Motion agreed to.Bill read a first time.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is That the Fair Trading (Gift Card Expiry) Amendment Bill be considered by the Economic Development Science and Innovation Committee. Motion agreed to.Bill referred to the Economic Development Science and Innovation Committee.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): Congratulations to the member.
Fair Trading (Gift Card Expiry) Amendment Bill — First Reading
VoteASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): Members I have determined that the subject of this vote will be treated as a conscience issue. In this case I know that there are members who want a personal vote and I am prepared to accept one. So this is the process that we're going to follow: I'm going to put the question you will vote I will then announce the result and at that stage any member can ask for a personal vote.A personal vote was called for on the question That the Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Cellar Door Tasting) Amendment Bill be now read a first time.Ayes 105Allan (P)Henderson (P)O'Connor S (P)Smith DAndersen (P)Hipango (P)O'Connor G (P)Smith SBaillieHipkins (P)O'Connor D (P)SoseneBaylyKerekere (P)Omer (P)Stanford (P)Belich (P)Kuriger (P)Pallett (P)StrangeBennett D (P)Leary (P)Parker (P)Swarbrick (P)Bishop (P)Leavasa (P)Peke-MasonTirikatene (P)BoyackLeePenk (P)Tuiono (P)Brooking (P)Lewis (P)Potaka (P)Twyford (P)Brown (P)Little (P)Prime (P)Uffindell (P)Brownlee (P)Logie (P)Pugh (P)Upston (P)CameronLorckRadhakrishnan (P)UtikereChenLubeck (P)Reti (P)van de Molen (P)ChhourLuxon (P)Robertsvan VeldenClarkLuxtonRobertson (P)Verrall (P)Collins (P)Mahuta (P)Rosewarne (P)Walters (P)CourtMcAnulty (P)Rurawhe (P)Warren-ClarkCraigMcClay (P)Russell (P)Watts (P)Davidson (P)McDowallSageWhaitiri (P)DeanMcKeeSalesaWilliams M (P)Doocey (P)McKelvieSepuloni (P)Willis (P)Eagle (P)McLellan (P)Severin (P)Wood (P)Edmonds (P)Menéndez March (P)Seymour WoodhouseGenter (P)Mitchell (P)Shaw (P)Woods (P)Ghahraman (P)MooneySimmondsGoldsmith (P)Muller (P)Simpson (P)Grigg (P)Nash (P)Sio (P)Noes 9Bennett GHenare (P)Tinetti (P)Davis (P)Kanongata'a (P)WebbHalbertNgobi (P)Williams AMotion agreed to.Bill read a first time.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): The question is That the Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Cellar Door Tasting) Amendment Bill be considered by the Justice Committee.Motion agreed to.Bill referred to the Justice Committee.
Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Cellar Door Tasting) Amendment Bill — First Reading
Companies (Directors' Duties) Amendment Bill — Third Reading
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Companies (Directors' Duties) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.Ayes 75New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Te Paati Māori 2; Kerekere; Whaitiri.Noes 44New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.Bill read a third time.
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Spatial Planning Bill — In Committee—Part 1
VoteCHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): The question is that Simon Court's amendment to Supplementary Order Paper 390 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 398 be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 44New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.Noes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Amendment not agreed to.CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): The question is that the Minister's amendments to Part 1 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 390 be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 44New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.Amendments agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Part 1 as amended be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2 Whaitiri.Part 1 as amended agreed to.Progress to be reported.House resumed.
Natural and Built Environment Bill — In Committee—Clauses 1 and 2
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That clause 1 be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Whaitiri.Clause 1 agreed to.CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): The question is that the Minister's tabled amendment to clause 2 on Supplementary Order Paper 389 be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 44New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.Amendment agreed to.CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): The question is that the Minister's amendments to clause 2 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 389 as amended be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments as amended be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 44New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.Amendment as amended agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That clause 2 as amended be agreed to.Ayes 72New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.Noes 47New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori; Whaitiri.Clause 2 as amended agreed to.Bill to be reported with amendment.