Mark Ron: Social Security Amendment Bill (No 3) — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMark Ron: Social Security Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee[Sitting date: 25 March 2015. Volume:704;Page:2632. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]RON MARK (NZ First):I must say what a pleasure it is to see the Minister in the chair the Hon Anne Tolley actually answering some questions. It is helpful. I am going to take this call in order to seek some clarity for New Zealand First around Supplementary Order Paper 56. I am looking also at Supplementary Order Paper 64 which my colleague Darroch Ball is getting me a copy of. My question to the Minister is for the purpose of clarity so that we can better understand precisely what these Supplementary Order Papers seek to do and to raise our question around Supplementary Order Paper 56. That proposes that “for the purpose of satisfying the residential qualification for any benefit after the return to New Zealand the residence status of persons (and their spouses and children) who were liable for and paid income tax on earnings while employed overseas” are to be treated as resident and present in New Zealand. These specific Supplementary Order Papers refer specifically to veterans. Once again I am not particularly clear Minister as to whether this seeks to aid and assist. I know that the explanatory note that has been provided says that this does not seek to change the law; it seeks to make it clearer. But I would really appreciate some explanation from you on those lines because it is not that clear to me.I am looking at the Supplementary Order Papers and the clauses that they refer to. There are a couple of things that stand out to me. Firstly Supplementary Order Paper 56 refers to people being “treated under section 79(3)(a)”. I can find no section 79(3)(a). I can find section 79(1)(a) and paragraphs (b) and (c) and a section 79(2) but I do not see a section 79(3)(a) at all in the legislation. So is that a typo or is that me not reading it correctly? Is there a piece of paper that I am missing? Supplementary Order Paper 56 clearly says in big bold black lettering: “was treated under section 79(3)(a) of the Social Security Act 1964 …”. I have a copy of page 69 of that and there is no section 79(3)(a) that I can find but some guidance may be helpful.The next thing is that the Supplementary Order Paper also refers to—I am just jumping from one piece of paper because we have got two pieces of legislation here that I am trying to look across at. I guess one of the first questions I have is about when we talk of persons who have paid tax. I am assuming that that is about paying tax in New Zealand because we have many former service personnel—and in fact we could talk about missionary workers; we could talk about a range of people whom this legislation does cover off—who have served outside of New Zealand employed by other agencies such as the United Nations and whoever who have paid tax. I just need some clarity. Are we saying that to fit within these criteria they would have paid tax in New Zealand? I want to understand what that means.Really Minister our concern is whether this disadvantages any of our veterans who are serving offshore. How will this impact on those when they come back? I tried to get answers on the previous piece of legislation the Taxation (KiwiSaver HomeStart and Remedial Matters) Bill which went through this Committee. Unfortunately the Minister in the chair then the Hon Paul Goldsmith did not feel the need to explain himself. That is not going to be helpful in the long run. I really would appreciate answers and my sense is that this Minister in the chair is a different Minister. I really would like some help around those clauses Minister Tolley. Thank you.