Lyndon HūhanaHŪHANA LYNDON (Green): Tēnā koe Madam Speaker. Tēnā koutou e te Whare. Well I'm hearing a serious flip-flop—a flip-flop of the coalition Government and of my Labour colleagues—because this repeal right here undermines the good work of my Matua Shane Jones and the work of the officials of Te Uru Rākau. Almost four years since this legislation was put in place we now have a coalition Government that undermines the good work of Matua Shane who knew that there were cowboys who knew that we had vulnerable land owners—those forest owners who were being taken advantage of by advisers who didn't adhere to a registration. That's why the register was set up. Moumou ngā mahi o Matua Shane. Moumou ngā mahi o Matua Shane and while Minister McClay laughs it's really disappointing because it would be good to know what evaluation took place in the repeal of this legislation. We attended the meeting as forest owners we attended the meeting as stakeholders and those in industry and as I sat in the consultation in Kerikeri it was a good robust discussion between the advisers us as forest owners and the administrators coming together to agree that Actually yes we do need a register. We do need regulation.". It was only four years ago that Matua Shane stood in this House to shepherd in this legislation that provided informed and transparent means for us as the land owners and the foresters to be able to engage with professionals who were impartial in order to give us good advice because at that time as my whanaunga colleague Peeni Henare has shared there were cowboys in the sector and we were vulnerable. So in July 2020 in the third reading Matua Shane Jones stood in the House and he said that "Not all log-mongers historically have been rascals but far too many have enjoyed to the detriment of the good name of our industry" a laissez-faire approach to the way with which they had engaged with us. So this Government is anti-transparency and anti-regulation because our Matua Shane—the Minister—brought this legislation through the Whare in order to support us so that we could access good solid advice at the time. Now the regulation is straightforward. It's only four years in place. I can't see an evaluation apart from some opinions where there have been no further hui. I can't see any hui with Māori land owners on this. Has the Minister engaged with te iwi Māori? Regulation was required for the industry to ensure that we were being given the quality advice that we needed and Matua Shane shared in 2020 that real estate agents have a register so why can't the forestry advisers have a register? That's what Matua Shane shared in this Whare. Give it a chance—give it a chance. So now that we've got this flip-flop going back on the work of Matua Shane we're going to lose the opportunity in the sector and in the industry to continue that mahi tahi to ensure that we are getting the quality advice that we needed because to be fair we have had some whānau who have been used to the detriment through the poor advice that they garnered before these regulations came into place. That was the benefit. As a land owner when you're seeking to harvest or you're wanting to plan your forest you can check that the adviser coming to your table is registered. Now at the time when this was a voluntary scheme only 10 to 12 percent of forestry advisers were registered—10 to 12 percent—because when it was voluntary nobody cared. They didn't adhere to standards and in fact there was so much work done in that space to bring the sector on board the submission process was not rushed. We had meetings we had webinar we had a Māori land owners' wananga and a full committee sat and heard submissions. This is going to be a rushed process. As I can see we have the coalition Government and my Labour colleagues going to usher this through quickly and yet we won't even get a select committee process so that we can hear from the sector and we can hear from the forest owners. It would be good to hear from the voice of our people but we're getting this pushed through under urgency. I think that's part of the moumou for Matua Shane and the moumou of coming from Tai Tokerau and only spending last night with forest owners who shared "Well why are they doing this?" and I said "I don't know." DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member's time has expired. Please just finish the sentence as then we can move on. HŪHANA LYNDON: Kia ora. The Green Party oppose this legislation and will pursue a full process. Kia ora."