10. Oranga Tamariki—Consultation with Iwi and Finding CaregiversHon ALFRED NGARO (National) to the Minister for ChildrenOranga Tamariki—Consultation with Iwi and Finding Caregivers10. Hon ALFRED NGARO (National) to the Minister for Children: Does she stand by her ministry's policies and actions in finding caregivers for children in care?Hon TRACEY MARTIN (Minister for Children): I do support the ministry's efforts to attract more caregivers. It is a priority area. Oranga Tamariki needs more caregivers and there is a lot of work to both recruit and retain a diverse pool of caregivers who can provide safe and loving homes for tamariki. Since its establishment a year ago the number of family whānau and non-family/whānau caregivers has increased by more than 150. If the member is referring to the caregiver advertisement that was placed on TradeMe it has been recognised and acknowledged that the level of information contained within the advert while not breaching the individual's privacy was an error in judgment. The chief executive has apologised. I know the staff are disappointed that they did not recognise this before posting the advert and I am confident it will not be repeated.Hon Alfred Ngaro: How does the Minister then reconcile her ministry's reported statement yesterday that it worked hard for three months to try and find the girl a home within her whānau iwi or hapū when Ngāti Ruanui head Debbie Ngarewa-Packer said We are constantly being told as iwi to be part of the solution but it's bloody hard when they don't engage with us." or iwi leader Marty Davis: "Just talk to us in the first instance and there are a number of things we can do when we actually talk with each other."?Hon TRACEY MARTIN: My understanding from the chief executive is that conversations had been taking place with members of that particular iwi over the last three months. It would appear that there were other members of the iwi that had not been part of that conversation—we will seek to rectify that immediately.Hon Alfred Ngaro: How does the Minister reconcile the comments from the CEO about a TradeMe advertisement for a foster family that "we acted immediately to take down [that] information." when two of the iwi leaders said that Oranga Tamariki did not remove the advertisement for at least 1½ days after the complaint was first laid?Hon TRACEY MARTIN: I thank the member for the information. It had not been drawn to my attention before this moment. I will go and see if I can clarify the situation now that I have that information.Hon Alfred Ngaro: How does the Minister reconcile her ministry's comments by her CEO who said "We've now engaged with the appropriate iwi." when as of today and this afternoon neither iwi Ngā Rauru or Te Āti Haunui-a-Pāpārangi have been engaged at all?Hon TRACEY MARTIN: I thank the member for his question. That is contrary to the information that I have been given. I will now take his comments back and I will seek to clarify.Hon Alfred Ngaro: When her ministry's CEO said "We've now engaged with the appropriate iwi which is fantastic. That's going to create more opportunities for children that we didn't have before we made the mistake." does she believe that making mistakes is the ideal way to create more opportunities for children?Hon TRACEY MARTIN: I thank the member for his question. Oranga Tamariki was set up under the previous Government and quite rightly so—and quite rightly so. It was set up to change the way we dealt with the complex situations for New Zealand's children. Part of that is changing the way that we did things from how we did them before. Sometimes mistakes will happen. This is one of those mistakes. It will be rectified but Oranga Tamariki must change the way that we look after our children and our young people in this country because if we keep doing what we did before we will keep getting the negative outcomes we got before.Hon Alfred Ngaro: Will the Minister then change the way and the appropriateness of operating and herself as the Minister taking leadership to contact the iwi leaders such as Marty Davis who in his comments says "The TradeMe site by its very name suggests a commodity as being sold bought or swapped. Some may see that with this little child."—will she take leadership contact them apologise personally for the mistake that was made?Hon TRACEY MARTIN: I thank the member for his question. Can I just clarify that this is not the first time that TradeMe has been used and the job section of TradeMe has been used. It is a practice that actually started under the previous administration. However to go to the substance of the member's question I have no difficulty whatsoever ringing the iwi in particular having a conversation about how myself and the ministry can create stronger relationships for the better outcomes for the children and the young people of Aotearoa New Zealand."