Falloon AndrewANDREW FALLOON (National—Rangitata): Thank you Mr Chair and I'm pleased to see we've had a change of Minister in the chair because unfortunately the previous Minister Phil Twyford didn't take a single call. We've put in I think quite a few very important questions to the Minister this morning in relation to this bill and the Minister hasn't taken a single call yet to clarify the queries that we have and to answer the questions that we have which I think is very disappointing.I just want to take issue with what my colleague the previous speaker Paul Goldsmith actually said. He said this was quite a minor bill. Well I actually think it's quite important. There are a number of very important questions that we have in relation to this bill which I think are important for the Minister to respond to because if he doesn't then it doesn't have the adequate process around it and that's a very very disappointing aspect for democracy. So I do just want to put a couple more questions to the Minister this morning and I hope he takes the time to respond.The first one of those questions is in relation to new section 41AB(4) set out in clause 8 and this says The permit [holder] must notify the Minister in accordance with subsection (5) if—(a) subsection (2) is contravened; and (b) the permit [holder] knows or ought reasonably to know that it has undergone a change of control." So my question to the Minister is in relation to the word "reasonably" because I get very nervous when I see reference to "reasonable" in legislation. As I was referring to in a previous contribution it is very difficult for us to know what the definition of "reasonable" is because "reasonable" can mean many things to many different people. So my first question to the Minister is: in relation to that word "reasonably" how will that be determined and by whom? Will it be solely by the Minister or will it be solely by officials or will it be by officials providing advice to the Minister who then ultimately makes the decision?As we know in Government there are a range of processes—immigration as an example—where some of the decisions are essentially delegated by the Minister to other officials. That could be the case here with the Crown Minerals Amendment Bill or it might be that they have to go to the Minister for final sign-off as we saw with a recent decision by the Minister of Immigration which I won't refer to because it doesn't relate to the Crown Minerals Amendment Bill or the Crown Minerals Act. But it does raise a query or question which is: how will it be determined by whom and what process will the Minister go through to get there? So I'd like an answer to that question this morning. It is a very important one.There have also been a number of other questions raised by me in relation to the change of control which I think is really at the heart of this because the change of control element is what this legislation's all about. It was in fact the very reason that this legislation came into being. There are a number of other aspects contained particularly in Part 1 of the bill which is the essential part but the change of control is at the heart of the bill. There have been a number of questions put to the Minister in the chair this morning about how the change of control will be determined and whether there will be differences between a domestic purchaser and an international purchaser for example. So those questions are very important questions because they do go to the heart of Part 1 and to the heart of the bill.So I hope that the Minister takes the opportunity to respond this morning not just to my questions that I've put to him but I think to the very good questions that particularly the Economic Development Science and Innovation Committee chairman Jonathan Young has put to him. As Jonathan said we did take a lot of time with this bill. It was a very lengthy process over quite a few months which is in stark contrast to another Crown minerals amendment bill that's passed through Parliament in recent months and so we gave it the scrutiny it deserved. We took several months to assess that bill and so I think it's beholden on the Minister to acknowledge that process actually that we took to go through the Crown Minerals Amendment Bill and to take a call this morning and respond to some of our questions. Thank you Mr Chair."