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Dalziel Lianne: Parental Leave and Employment Protection mendment Bill — Second Reading 
Dalziel Lianne: Parental Leave and Employment Protection mendment Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:621;Page:16289] 
LIANNE DALZIEL (Labour—Christchurch East) 
: 
 There is a word that describes that contribution but I understand it is not considered to be parliamentary language. When one looks up the dictionary the word starts with the letter “h”. I think the members on this side of the House know precisely what I am talking about. 
The National Party opposes paid parental leave. It voted against paid parental leave. At that time the Ayes were 66 the Noes 52. New Zealand National had 39 members. That must have been before the 2002 election because National does not have 39 members now and it will not have 39 members after the next election if we listen to the contribution of Judith Collins. We heard that member say that the National Party opposes this bill because it is discriminatory against the self-employed. On that basis National would repeal paid parental leave for everyone so that everyone misses out. Well I want to mention that “h” word again in the context of something that might be considered to be a bit rich. Katherine Rich was perfectly happy to take her full parliamentary salary when both her children were born yet the National Party has the gall to stand here in this House and suggest that this Government does not have at heart the interests of women in this country. 
I want to quote from the report of the Social Services Committee. The Minister’s comments are actually reported in the select committee report back. This is what the Minister who is responsible for this bill stated: “As part of this process officials are considering the overall framework design eligibility criteria and payment structure that could apply to self-employed people. Policy development relating to the self-employed is a very high priority for me and I am committed to progressing this issue further in the near future to include self-employed parents as far as practicable.” I will be looking to the other side of the House for support when the Minister is able to introduce the legislation but I know that we will just see a continuation of the absolute hypocrisy we have already seen. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Who was the member referring to in that last sentence? 
LIANNE DALZIEL 
: To the National Party. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: The member will withdraw and apologise. 
LIANNE DALZIEL 
: I withdraw and apologise.
Anderton Jim: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Anderton Jim: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:608;Page:5444] 
Hon JIM ANDERTON (Acting Minister of Customs) 
: 
 Mr Robson was here very recently and I am speaking on his behalf. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: Is he here or not? 
Hon JIM ANDERTON 
: Yes I am of the view that he is here. That is why I voted for him.
Vote: Industry New Zealand and Trade New Zealand Integration Bill — First Reading 
Vote: Industry New Zealand and Trade New Zealand Integration Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:607;Page:4360] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the 
Industry New Zealand and Trade New Zealand Integration Bill 
 be now read a first time. 
Ayes 107 
Labour 52; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; United Future 8. 
Noes 9 
Green Party 9. 
Bill read a first time.
Vote: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:17105] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment to the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 11 
Green Party 9; Maori Party 1; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 109 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Ayes 11 
Green Party 9; Maori Party 1; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 109 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment to the amendment not agreed to.Amendment to the amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Metiria Turei to proposed new clause 71A set out on Supplementary Order Paper 302 in the name of the Hon Dr Michael Cullen be agreed to: 
to omit this clause. 
A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment to the amendment be agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 302 in the name of the Hon Dr Michael Cullen to Part 4 be agreed to.
Jones Dail: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Jones Dail: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:617;Page:13142] 
DAIL JONES (NZ First) 
: 
 Following the tabling of a brake shoe a little while ago we have received yet another brake shoe—as a result of publicity I suppose—and I seek the leave of the House to table it. 
Item not tabled.
Prebble Richard: Sex Offenders Registry Bill — First Reading 
Prebble Richard: Sex Offenders Registry Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:610;Page:7494] 
Hon RICHARD PREBBLE (Leader—ACT NZ) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Are all the microphones still live? 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Yes. 
Hon RICHARD PREBBLE 
: If that is the case I suggest that we have to have silence in the House. I suggest that members who are interested in this bill stay and sit in their seats and those who are not interested in it leave; otherwise it is a hopeless situation for the member who has been called to speak on an important bill and is entitled to be heard properly.
Jones Dail: Statutes Amendment Bill (No 4) — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Jones Dail: Statutes Amendment Bill (No 4) — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:625;Page:20387] 
DAIL JONES (NZ First) 
: 
 The procedure as I understand it on a Statutes Amendment Bill is that we agree to everything because we have been briefed in advance by the Minister so there is really no cause for debate. This part of course is slightly different because a Supplementary Order Paper has been put forward. Discussions took place on the Supplementary Order Paper and my understanding was that section 20(1)(a) substituted in clause 6C would be redrafted to differ from this particular draft. Am I correct in thinking that and will an amendment be moved? 
Hon Rick Barker 
: There is an amendment. 
DAIL JONES 
: There is an amendment? 
Hon Rick Barker 
: Yes there is. 
DAIL JONES 
: We have not seen it— 
Hon Rick Barker 
: It is on the Table. If you give me a chance I will speak to it. You beat me to it. 
DAIL JONES 
: Is it on the Table? 
Hon Rick Barker 
: Yes it is. 
DAIL JONES 
: Thank you very much.
Wilson Margaret: Ngati Tama Claims Settlement Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Wilson Margaret: Ngati Tama Claims Settlement Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:613;Page:10173] 
Hon MARGARET WILSON (Minister in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations) 
: 
I move  
That it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the Ngati Tama Claims Settlement Bill that it take the bill part by part and consider any schedules as one question. 
Motion agreed to. 
JOHN CARTER (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
Because this is a bill on which I think all parties agree I wonder whether the House might give a direction to the Committee that it take one wide-ranging debate in Committee. I seek leave for that. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Leave has been sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Mallard Trevor: Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2) — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Mallard Trevor: Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2) — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:608;Page:5488] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Minister of Education) 
: 
 I move  
That it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2) that it take the bill part by part and consider any schedules as one question. 
Motion agreed to.
Copeland Gordon: Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Copeland Gordon: Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 14 December 2004. Volume:622;Page:17797. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
GORDON COPELAND (United Future) 
: 
 United Future did not have a member on the Regulations Review Committee which considered the Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3) but I have great confidence in the people who were on the committee which was chaired I am sure very well by Richard Worth of National and comprised members from the Labour Party the ACT party and the New Zealand First Party. I have read the committee’s report. I note it expresses itself to be very satisfied indeed that the bill is taking the appropriate action in terms of confirmation and validation and therefore I am happy to signal United Future’s support for this reading of the bill and all its remaining stages.
Vote: Courts and Criminal Matters Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Vote: Courts and Criminal Matters Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:626;Page:21714] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment to the amendment be agreed to 
Ayes 25 
New Zealand National 20; ACT New Zealand 5. 
Noes 79 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand First 12; United Future 7; Green Party 7; Progressive 2. 
Amendment to the amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 370 in the name of the Hon Rick Barker to Part 4 be agreed to. 
Amendments agreed to and Part 4 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Diplomatic Privileges and Immunities Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Diplomatic Privileges and Immunities Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:615;Page:11263] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 3 be agreed to. 
Ayes 109 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand National 25; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 8 
ACT New Zealand 7; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Clause 3 agreed to.
Hartley Ann: Electoral (Vacancies) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Hartley Ann: Electoral (Vacancies) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:610;Page:7767] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: The next amendments two amendments in the name of the Hon Richard Prebble are ruled out of order. I refer members to Speaker’s ruling 15/2 (Supplement).
Gallagher Martin: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Gallagher Martin: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8509] 
MARTIN GALLAGHER (NZ Labour—Hamilton West) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Baldock Larry: Dog Control Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Baldock Larry: Dog Control Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:613;Page:9872] 
LARRY BALDOCK (United Future) 
: 
 In speaking to Part 2 I want to make a few brief comments. First of all it is about dog control officers dog rangers and dog control by-laws and particularly the dog control officers and dog rangers are crucial to the success of this legislation. It is important that we have taken the time in the bill to give them some clarity and some additional powers so they can do their job; it is not a job I would like to have to do in this country given the number of wild and mangy dogs that roam the streets. So I trust they will be encouraged by some of the additional powers given to them. I know of one very happy dog control officer who was almost stunned with the number of amendments in this bill—little pieces of the existing legislation that those officers have wanted to see improved tweaked and adjusted over the years and he is very very happy that the Local Government and Environment Committee has done such a thorough job in addressing lots of these issues. 
Clause 5 introduces a new section 15 into the Dog Control Act including subsection (5) which provides: “All reasonable costs incurred in the seizure custody sustenance and transport of a dog under this section may be recovered as debt from the owner of the dog.” I think that is a very important part of this section because we often hear people complaining about how responsible people are penalised by those who are not responsible. At the moment a lot of the costs of dogs being impounded and so on are borne by those who pay their rates. So this section sends a very good signal that the costs of being irresponsible will be passed back to people by way of a charge or a debt and we should all take some satisfaction from that. 
With regard to microchipping as mentioned by the previous speaker it is important that the message gets out across the country and I am sure it will come out more as we debate microchipping later that in fact the legislation does deal only with new dogs being registered from 2006. People need not fear that their current pets will have to be subjected to this. It will be the new pups as they come into the world and are registered and vaccinated that will have chips implanted. Currently anybody who purchases a purebred dog will find that the New Zealand Kennel Club already inserts microchips in them for purposes of identification so that is not likely to be of grave concern to those who have bought their pedigree dogs.
Roy Heather: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Roy Heather: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:614;Page:10403] 
HEATHER ROY (ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I did ignore the unparliamentary comment but one was made and I did take offence at it. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Then can I ask the person who made it to stand and withdraw under Standing Order 117 Personal reflections. 
David Benson-Pope 
: I think I am the person being accused. If the comment was unparliamentary I would like to know what it was. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I am taking the honourable member’s word. Everyone here is an honourable member and I accept what he said.
Vote: Racing Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Vote: Racing Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:606;Page:3967] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 8 
Green Party 8. 
Noes 108 
Labour 52; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 6; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Sue Bradford to clause 12 be agreed to: 
to amend subclause (1) by adding the following paragraph: 
a representative of clubs with 3 or fewer race days.
Mark Ron: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Mark Ron: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:608;Page:5560] 
RON MARK (NZ First) 
: 
 In order that I am not seen to have misled the House I seek leave to table the other questions on ethnic-based crime that the Minister George Hawkins refused to answer— 
Documents by leave laid on the Table of the House.15:16:55 End of QOA
Peters Winston: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 4) — Third Reading 
Peters Winston: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 4) — Third Reading 
[Volume:619;Page:14685] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I am not certain whether you ruled in my favour in respect of the leave I sought. The critical part of my documentation is that it provides all the evidence of corruption anyone would ever want to see but the chairperson of the Primary Production Committee refused to investigate it. 
Debate interrupted.
Cullen Michael: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Procedure 
Cullen Michael: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Procedure 
[Volume:621;Page:16803] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Pursuant to a discussion at the Business Committee yesterday I seek leave for the Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill to be taken through its third reading today following any recommittal. As I am sure most members are aware Dr Hutchison has a small typing error amendment to move in the Committee stage then we will move back to the third reading. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: This was discussed at the Business Committee. Is there any objection to that course being followed? There is not. It will be so done.
Mackey Janet: Injury Prevention Rehabilitation and Compensation Amendment Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Mackey Janet: Injury Prevention Rehabilitation and Compensation Amendment Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:609;Page:6511] 
JANET MACKEY (NZ Labour—East Coast) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Vote: Building Bill — Third Reading 
Vote: Building Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:619;Page:14926] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Building Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 81 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 7; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 33 
New Zealand National 27; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 1.
Hartley Ann: Estimates Debate — In Committee 
Hartley Ann: Estimates Debate — In Committee 
[Volume:618;Page:14318] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: I have ruled on the point of order.
Cullen Michael: Points of Order — Minister of Maori Affairs—Answer to Question 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Cullen Michael: Points of Order — Minister of Maori Affairs—Answer to Question 
[Sitting date: 19 June 2003. Volume:609;Page:6414. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I am informed that an answer was delivered to Mr Rodney Hide’s secretary between 11 and 11.30 this morning.
Vote: Maori Fisheries Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Maori Fisheries Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:15440] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 1 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 102 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; United Future 8; Progressive 2; Maori Party 1. 
Noes 18 
Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Visitors — Minister of Textiles Republic of India 
Visitors — Minister of Textiles Republic of India 
[Volume:608;Page:5899] 
Wednesday 21 May 2003 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Visitors 
Minister of Textiles Republic of India 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have much pleasure in informing members that the Honourable Kashiram Rana Minister of Textiles of the Republic of India accompanied by the Minister of Agriculture is within the precincts of this Chamber. I am sure members would wish that he be welcomed.
Mackey Moana: Tariff (New Zealand - Thailand Closer Economic Partnership) Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Mackey Moana: Tariff (New Zealand - Thailand Closer Economic Partnership) Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:21415] 
MOANA MACKEY (Labour) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Smith Murray: Wellington Regional Council (Water Board Functions) Bill — In Committee 
Smith Murray: Wellington Regional Council (Water Board Functions) Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:623;Page:18932] 
MURRAY SMITH (United Future) 
: 
 I was not going to take another call either but I must respond to the provocation from National and ACT. I will not however stoop to the personal insults that are coming from the National member because I do not think that it is very constructive. The comment I will make is that this is not coastal land. If Mr Sowry wants to debate with me exactly what the water board land does comprise in the Wellington Regional Council area then I guess we could debate that all night. But we are not talking about coastal land and we are therefore not talking about land that would be suitable for offshore functions. 
In terms of the comment made by ACT in terms of Mt Climie the situation is that we are allowing all water board land to be used for these purposes. We are not saying that Mt Climie is or is not singled out. The fact is that if we give permission to use water board land generally for non-renewable matters then we include catchment areas—even if Mt Climie is not one. It is interesting to hear that the member was born under Mt Climie. That is news I did not know. But even if Mt Climie itself is not part of the water catchment area directly it is certainly within the water catchment area. Either we allow all the water catchment area to be used for non-renewable energy or we allow none of it to be used. 
Again I state that the balance is right and that in terms of these particular areas of land if there is no coal there then there is no issue regarding the use of non-sustainable energy anyway. This is an issue in terms of the Wellington Regional Council that is really irrelevant to what it wants to do and beyond what it wants to do. I will not spend any more time talking about it. 
Part 1 agreed to.
Hughes Darren: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Hughes Darren: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:617;Page:12629] 
5.  
DARREN HUGHES (Labour—Otaki) 
 to the  
Minister of Transport 
: What reports has he received on the sale of Paraparaumu Airport? 
Hon PETE HODGSON (Minister of Transport) 
: 
 I have received the report of the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee into the privatisation of the airport by the previous National Government in 1995. The report identified a long list of errors failures and contradictions. It is an indictment on the Government of the day and an even sloppier process than the privatisation of the railways. 
Darren Hughes 
: What failures in Government processes around the sale does the committee’s report identify? 
Hon PETE HODGSON 
: Heaps of them but the two worst are that first the objectives of the sale were never a condition of the sale—almost unbelievably—and second that it was sold for a song. 
Peter Brown 
: When can the House expect the formal Government response to this inquiry; will it be quicker than the shipping review which thus far has taken only 4 years? 
Hon PETE HODGSON 
: My understanding of the Standing Orders is that the Government ought to respond within 90 days. We are in day 2.
Roy Heather: Future Directions (Working for Families) Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Procedure 
Roy Heather: Future Directions (Working for Families) Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:617;Page:13495] 
HEATHER ROY (ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I just seek some advice from the Chair. I have been calling for a speech on Part 1 of this bill for an hour and a half and indeed I called a point of order to alert the Chair to that effect before the vote was called. This bill is being heard under urgency which means it will not be subject to the normal select committee scrutiny that a bill should be subject to. It is a very important bill and I would like to know what a member has to do to get the call. I did have points to raise in Part 1 of the bill that have not been heard previously. Is it not reasonable that if somebody is seeking the call for over an hour and a half that that member is in fact called? 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Can I just say to the member that the closure has been taken. I appreciate the point she has made. I did look at proportionality across Parliament and that was the reason the closure motion was accepted. The Committee proportionality applies principally to fixed-time debates if the member would like to look at Speaker’s ruling 59/2.
English Bill: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
English Bill: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:606;Page:3977] 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Leader of the Opposition) 
 to the  
Prime Minister 
: What specific directions if any has she given to Ministers regarding the Government’s vision of being “in the top half of the OECD” in 10 years as set out in the Prime Minister’s statement to Parliament in February 2001; and when were these directions given? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK (Prime Minister) 
: 
 As that was not a time frame adopted in the growth and innovation framework no such direction was required. 
Hon Bill English 
: Why did the then Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Economic Development the Hon Jim Anderton give a speech as recently as June 2002 in which he said: “This Government has set itself an ambitious target. It wants to see New Zealand once more in the top half of the OECD league table by 2011.”? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK 
: The member can put that question directly to the Minister for Economic Development if that is what he wants to find out. 
Rodney Hide 
: What made the Prime Minister first think that getting into the top half of the OECD economic table was possible and then what made her change her mind? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK 
: It was an ambitious idea that was debated around. I decided it was unrealistic just as the National Party decided it was unrealistic to go for the Maori vote within a century. 
Hon Bill English 
: What directions will the Prime Minister give to Industry New Zealand which in its November 2002  
Venture 
 magazine referred again to the Government’s goal of moving NZ back into the top half of the OECD by 2011 and does she intend to pursue the same step as she did with the closing the gaps policy—that is instruct civil servants to airbrush all references to the unwanted goal out of any public documents? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK 
: My direction will be to read the framework which has been out for a year. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: Is it not a fact that in the space of less than a week the Prime Minister has gone from denying she ever said it to now admitting that she did say it but that she was wrong and what does that make her? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK 
: No there is no fact in that. I said I had no recollection of one of a thousand—forehordes—that I write every year.
Burton Mark: Electoral (Vacancies) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Burton Mark: Electoral (Vacancies) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:610;Page:7782] 
Hon MARK BURTON (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 It is fair to say that it has been a convention that extended time is given for the debate on the title of a bill that has not been to a select committee and certainly that has been the case with this bill. As to the rest it is a matter that has always been and should quite properly be the province of the Chair because many factors come into play—the importance of the issue the size of the part and most important the relevance of the debate.
Carter John: Retirement Villages Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Carter John: Retirement Villages Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:612;Page:9415] 
JOHN CARTER (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 I sought leave to have one wide-ranging debate in the Committee stage for a considerable length of time so that we can debate the issues and pick them up as we want to rather than have a part-by-part debate. As I said I have not had a chance to discuss it with any other parties. If the member objects then obviously it will not happen and we will debate the bill part by part.
Duncan Helen: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Duncan Helen: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8502] 
HELEN DUNCAN (NZ Labour) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Energy and Climate Change) Amendment Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Energy and Climate Change) Amendment Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:615;Page:11333] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Minister of State) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Vote: Health Practitioners Competence Assurance Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Health Practitioners Competence Assurance Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8139] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 82 
Labour 52; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Noes 33 
New Zealand National 27; ACT New Zealand 6. 
Amendments agreed to.
Connell Brian: Education (Establishment of Universities) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Connell Brian: Education (Establishment of Universities) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:620;Page:16213] 
BRIAN CONNELL 
: I have not finished my point of order. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The member will be seated now.
Hunt Jonathan: Speaker’s Rulings — Order of Calls 
Hunt Jonathan: Speaker’s Rulings — Order of Calls 
[Volume:612;Page:9122] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Before I carry on I can say that as a result of a Business Committee determination I have now ruled as Speaker the order in which I am calling first second and third reading debates and that is at the table here. However let me say that if a person does not take his or her call then another party can get the call.
Hide Rodney: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Hide Rodney: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:619;Page:14609] 
RODNEY HIDE (Leader—ACT) 
: 
 In response to the Prime Minister’s claim in question No. 2 I seek leave to table two documents. The first is the contract with Action on Smoking and Health (ASH) setting out details of the Government paying ASH to lobby political parties and the media. The second is a Government contract with the Smokefree Coalition where specifically set out in the contract is the requirement that the Smokefree Coalition Trust actually makes submissions to select committee. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table those two documents. Is there any objection? There is.
Prebble Richard: Sittings of the House 
Prebble Richard: Sittings of the House 
[Volume:624;Page:19676] 
Hon RICHARD PREBBLE (ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I think I heard a Government Minister saying that we should stop Parliament so he can go and have a rip-roaringly good dinner with the President of Indonesia. 
Hon Member 
: Flexible working hours. 
Hon RICHARD PREBBLE 
: Well that is flexible working hours. That is one of the most outrageous proposals I have heard from a Minister for a long time. We are elected here to be members of Parliament not to go and have dinners whenever we feel like it. Speaking on behalf of the ACT party I say that we are here to represent the taxpayer and to keep the Government honest and we most certainly will not agree to a proposal like that regardless of how ambitious Mr Cunliffe might be to go to a dinner. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: So the member is taking objection.  
Sitting suspended from 6 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.
Vote: Employment Relations Law Reform Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Employment Relations Law Reform Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:16146] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2; Maori Party 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Sue Bradford to clause 6A be agreed to: 
to omit from paragraph (a) of section 4A the words “sustained; or” and substitute the words “sustained; and”.
Hughes Darren: Taxation (Annual Rates Venture Capital and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — First Reading 
Hughes Darren: Taxation (Annual Rates Venture Capital and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:616;Page:12503] 
DARREN HUGHES (Labour—Otaki) 
: 
 I stand in support of the first reading of this bill. The reasons why the Government is introducing it have been made well clear by the Minister. I wish it well as it goes to the Finance and Expenditure Committee which does very good work in considering taxation bills and I look forward to the second reading within a very short space of time.
Anderton Jim: Motions — New Zealand Cricket—Tour of Zimbabwe 
Anderton Jim: Motions — New Zealand Cricket—Tour of Zimbabwe 
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Hon JIM ANDERTON (Minister for Economic Development) 
: 
 The Progressive Party strongly supports this motion. It notes also the Government’s intention to prevent a tour of New Zealand by a Zimbabwean cricket team later this year. 
I have played cricket for much of my life including for the parliamentary eleven over many years and I love the game dearly. But it is hard to think of worse circumstances in which a national cricket team from this country could tour Zimbabwe. In expressing the view to the New Zealand and international cricket authorities that the tour by the New Zealand cricket team to Zimbabwe should be abandoned I am sure the House does not wish to punish either our own cricketers individually or New Zealand Cricket collectively. They are not the cause of Zimbabwe’s miseries. I would however like to point out to Mr Peters that those of us who were around in the late 1970s and early 1980s remember well the comment about Mugabe “coming out of the trees” as was so nicely put by the former Prime Minister Mr Muldoon. The same people of course—the same Government—described Nelson Mandela as a terrorist. So those kinds of jibes did nothing to uphold black leadership that was good; it just blackguarded all black leadership regardless of merit. 
The real message from this House today should be solidarity with the suffering starving and oppressed people of Zimbabwe. There will of course come a time of reckoning for Mr Mugabe and for those who have assisted in his criminal actions. Zimbabwe is suspended from the Commonwealth. The International Criminal Court is now in place in The Hague with jurisdiction over crimes against humanity committed anywhere in the world. So Robert Mugabe and his fellow torturers should be careful where they travel. In the United Nations pressure is building for some sort of collective action. In Zimbabwe itself there will come a time—and we all hope no question that that will be soon—when Mugabe’s dictatorship will be held to account for its crimes and abuses. 
Our national cricket team tours under the protest of this House and the people of New Zealand. My earlier intention was that this Parliament should discuss on a non-partisan basis whether there might be agreement by legislative means to prevent this tour from taking place. That discussion proved impossible not least because of the shortage of time to give proper parliamentary and select committee consideration to important issues such as the rights of New Zealanders to leave their own country. There are lessons however about the proper consultation and consensus-building processes that I sincerely hope will be learnt by all who seek cross-party support on important issues like this in the future. 
The Progressive Party still however supports this resolution as a means of at least sending a message. We acknowledge and deplore the suffering in Zimbabwe and we want to see that the rules of international cricket will allow for the cancellation of a tour to any country where there are gross human rights abuses.
Cullen Michael: Business of the House 
Cullen Michael: Business of the House 
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Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 It will include the I think eight members of the House who have indicated that they are retiring. By long tradition those who involuntarily retire at elections never get to make a valedictory statement.
Vote: Building Bill — In Committee Procedure 
Vote: Building Bill — In Committee Procedure 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 70 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; Maori Party 1; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of John Tamihere to the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 241 in his name to insert clause 358A be agreed to: 
to insert immediately above new clause 358A as set out on Supplementary Order Paper No 241 the following heading: 
Outline of transitional provisions.
Cunliffe David: Police Complaints Authority (Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Police Complaints Authority (Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Minister of State) 
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 I rise to take a short call on the Police Complaints Authority (Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct) Amendment Bill and I am pleased to open my speech by concurring with the member who has just resumed his seat that this is a time when unusually for New Zealand the conduct of our police force has been in the public eye. It is important for us to recognise that many of the allegations that lie behind that public interest are historical but they are none the less real interests and the public has expressed real concerns about them. 
I think all members of this House would agree that it is in the interests of every New Zealand citizen that the cloud that hovers above the police force be cleared up as soon as possible and as fully as possible. To that extent the Government is pleased to bring forward to the House this bill which will enable the public’s confidence to be properly restored. It does so by allowing the commission of inquiry to access under conditions of strict confidentiality the appropriate records of the Police Complaints Authority and thereby to ascertain for the public record the veracity of the processes. It is important that justice is done and that it is seen to be done.
Pettis Jill: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Transitional Provisions and Controls) Amendment Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee  
Pettis Jill: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Transitional Provisions and Controls) Amendment Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee  
[Volume:616;Page:11760] 
JILL PETTIS (Senior Whip—Labour) 
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 I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. I am very happy to share with the Committee what I said. As members will know this is the last bill that I considered when I was on the Education and Science Committee and I said very casually to the Minister I had forgotten how short the bill was. That is what I said to her.
Turner Judy: Children’s Commissioner Bill — In Committee 
Turner Judy: Children’s Commissioner Bill — In Committee 
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JUDY TURNER (United Future) 
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 I rise on behalf of United Future in support of the Children’s Commissioner Bill. We were thrilled to see the work that has been undertaken so far by the Commissioner for Children and also the recent appointment of our commissioner. I guess the current care and protection issues that have been highlighted over the last couple of years stress the fact that it is essential for children to have their voices heard. The long-awaited time has arrived and we can now process this bill. 
I want to reflect on why we have commissions and to put that in the context of this particular commission. We have commissions because we recognise a particular set of circumstances or some particular values that as a society we want protected and advocated for and not left vulnerable to the whim of any given Government. We have privacy and human rights commissions an environment commissioner and very soon a families commission which will protect and advocate for that particular context. As children are undoubtedly the treasure of the nation the Office of the Commissioner for Children has a noble mandate to uphold their needs and rights for a safe and nurturing passage into adulthood. We are thrilled that the bill raises awareness and understanding of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child and the work the commission does in upholding it and that the bill will allow the commissioner to monitor the application of the convention by Government departments and other instruments of the Crown. United Future has a particular interest in those articles of the convention that highlight the rights of children to have healthy participation in their family context in particular articles 7 9 and 10 of the convention which specify those areas. 
The bill also relates to decisions that affect the lives of children promotes greater participation of children in decisions that affect them and takes an approach that gives their views a weight in accordance with the age and maturity of each child concerned. The bill will promote the establishment of accessible and effective complaints mechanisms for children. The pendulum has truly moved on and away from the days in which children were deemed to be seen but not heard. We welcome the opportunity for children’s opinions to be considered and commend the bill to the Committee. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 116 in the name of the Hon Steve Maharey to Part 1 be agreed to.
Perry Edwin: Police Complaints Authority (Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Perry Edwin: Police Complaints Authority (Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:617;Page:12929] 
EDWIN PERRY (NZ First) 
: 
 New Zealand First is supporting the Police Complaints Authority (Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct) Amendment Bill as amended by the Law and Order Committee. The bill may be barely 4 pages long but it is very important. The select committee should be complimented on returning the bill back to the House in such a short time. This bill was introduced into Parliament on 13 March 2004. The closing date for submissions was 14 April 2004 and here we are on 13 May considering the third reading. 
The purpose of the bill is to amend the Police Complaints Authority Act of 1988 to allow the Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct established by the Governor-General on 16 February 2004 to fulfil its terms of reference to inquire into the adequacy of any investigations carried out by the police on behalf of the Police Complaints Authority. I and New Zealand First have the highest regard for our police force but we consider the force lacks resources—for example staffing. We have just heard a speech from Mr Ryall a National Party member. All I can say to him is that his Government had 9 years to do something about the police force and it is still in a mess. 
The select committee heard nine submissions in respect of this matter. They were heard extremely promptly and then it reported back the bill with amendments. The amendments make it a much better bill and that is why New Zealand First is supporting it. We do not want to see another inquiry into an inquiry; we want to see this matter brought to an end in the best possible way for the future of this bill. In the interests of the public we will support the passing of this legislation.
Prebble Richard: Points of Order — Finding of Contempt—Hon Dr Nick Smith Member’s Notice of Motion No. 2—Wording Finding of Contempt—Hon Dr Nick Smith 
Prebble Richard: Points of Order — Finding of Contempt—Hon Dr Nick Smith Member’s Notice of Motion No. 2—Wording Finding of Contempt—Hon Dr Nick Smith 
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Hon RICHARD PREBBLE (Leader—ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The House would be interested to know if you have had a report from the registrar whether that report is a report under the Electoral Act suggesting that Dr Smith has been convicted of an offence carrying a sentence of more than 2 years. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Any member can see the copy of the report and it is here for anyone to get a copy of. 
Hon RICHARD PREBBLE 
: Do you not know the answer? 
Mr SPEAKER 
: This is a report—[ 
Interruption 
] I am sorry. I am not entering further into that argument.
Vote: Judicial Matters Bill — Instruction to Committee 
Vote: Judicial Matters Bill — Instruction to Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 71 
New Zealand Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 47 
New Zealand National 26; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Motion agreed to.
Benson-Pope David: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Benson-Pope David: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
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DAVID BENSON-POPE (NZ Labour—Dunedin South) 
: 
 Thank you Mr Speaker for the opportunity to contribute however briefly. I would like to make a couple of comments about the comments of the speaker before the previous speaker. I am sorry that Mr Mark has allowed the deep trauma of his career replacement to affect him so much. As there are so many teachers and counsellors on this side of the House I am pleased to offer their services to help him reconcile his differences with his whip. I support the bill.
Simich Clem: Civil Union Bill — In Committee Procedure 
Simich Clem: Civil Union Bill — In Committee Procedure 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: The amendments to the heading and to subclause (1) of clause 29 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 314 in the name of Richard Worth are out of order because they are inconsistent with a previous decision of the Committee. 
The question was put that the following amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 314 in the name of Richard Worth to clause 29 be agreed to: 
to omit subclause (2).
Vote: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Vote: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:15937] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 112 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 22; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 6; Progressive 2; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 8 
New Zealand National 5; United Future 2; Maori Party 1. 
Amendment agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Dr Paul Hutchison to clause 51 be agreed to: 
to omit this clause and substitute the following new clause: 
51Providers to inform themselves about donor offspring births 
Providers must use their best endeavours to keep themselves fully informed about the births of donor offspring.