11. Question No. 11—Housing (Māori Housing)TAMA POTAKA (National—Hamilton West) to the Associate Minister of Housing (Māori Housing)Question No. 11—Housing (Māori Housing)11. TAMA POTAKA (National—Hamilton West) to the Associate Minister of Housing (Māori Housing): E hia ngā kāinga hou kua whakaritea ki te hōtaka Whai Kāinga Oranga ā tokohia ngā whānau kua hūnuku atu ki aua kāinga mā te hōtaka rā?[How many new homes have been contracted through the Whai Kāinga Whai Oranga programme and how many whānau Māori have moved into homes completed through the programme?]Hon WILLIE JACKSON (Associate Minister of Housing (Māori Housing)): That's a beautiful question. I want to thank that member for that question because Whai Kāinga Whai Oranga has been one of the great successes of this Government. Māori housing stands out. I want to thank Minister Megan Woods for all her support. Bringing together Te Puni Kōkiri and the ministry of housing has seen a real change and we've got people all around the country flourishing. I want to thank that member for this opportunity to talk about this because we launched Whai Kāinga Whai Oranga in 2021 and we made it clear that that was a four-year programme to build 1000 homes for whānau Māori by June 2025. I'm proud to inform that member who's been a great supporter—him and his family and his wife. They've been great supporters of Māori housing and Māori development; I really think he's been a terrific supporter actually. I'm proud to inform that member that we're well on track to deliver on this commitment. To date we've contracted 1003 homes with a further 15 homes being approved and they're in the contracting process bringing the total approval to 1018. In response to the second part of the question I want everyone to understand this because the member was speaking Māori and quite rightly so. I applaud him for that. But he was asking about how many whānau have moved in: 62 at this stage.Tama Potaka: He aha te kaute pūtea mō te kaupapa iwi prototypes i raro i te hōtaka Whai Kāinga Whai Oranga?[What is the Budget allocation for the iwi prototypes initiative under the Whai Kāinga Whai Oranga programme?]Hon WILLIE JACKSON: In terms of the pūtea that has been approved so far in the 2023 Budget we put aside $200 million additional but $150 million specifically for Whai Kāinga Whai Oranga so that we could support the pūtea that was put aside in 2021 which was $700 million. The National Government never put aside one cent—they never put aside one cent in terms of by Māori for Māori programmes. Again I want to thank ourselves for this brilliant strategy—in particular Minister Megan Woods Minister Grant Robertson Minister Kelvin Davis who have started this innovative and brilliant brilliant programme that we've never ever seen before from any other Government in history. As well as that there's incredible Māori providers that that member has supported. We've got Toitu Tairawhiti with Willie Te Aho on the East Coast. We've got Ka Uruora with Jamie—SPEAKER: Can I ask the Minister to wind up his speech.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Can I—SPEAKER: You've answered.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: OK.Tama Potaka: E hia ngā kāinga hou kua oti te hangā ake i tō te kaupapa iwi prototypes ā e mākona ana tō ngākau i tērā nama?[How many new homes have been built under the iwi prototypes initiative and is that satisfactory to you?]Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Kei te harikoa taku ngākau i tēnei wā e hoa harikoa. Kei te tino whakahīhī mātou nā te mea he tino rawe tā mātou rautaki e pā ana ki te hanga whare. E mihi ana ki te Minita ki a Megan Woods mō tana kaha ki te kōkiri i tēnei kaupapa me te Minita mō te pūtea Grant Robertson me Kelvin Davis. Kei te tino whakahīhī tō mātou kāhui Māori. E mihi ana ki a koe e hoa mō tō tautoko ki a mātou i ngā wā katoa. Kia ora.[My heart is happy at this point my friend. We are very proud because our strategy for building houses is a good one. I acknowledge the Minister Megan Woods for her hard work in leading this initiative and to the finance Minister Grant Robertson and Kelvin Davis. Our Māori caucus is very proud. I acknowledge you my friend for your unwavering support. Thank you.]Hon Michael Woodhouse: Point of order Mr Speaker. That was a great reply and congratulated just about everybody on the Labour front bench but it didn't answer the question of how many have been completed.SPEAKER: Yes that's correct. It wasn't. Do you want to ask it again? Hon Nanaia Mahuta: Supplementary.SPEAKER: No no no. I'm going to give Tama Potaka the opportunity to ask the question again. Tama Potaka: Ka pai.SPEAKER: Order! In silence.Tama Potaka: E hia kē ngā kāinga hou kua oti te hangā ake i tō te kaupapa iwi prototypes ā e mākona ana tō ngākau i te nama rā?[How many new houses have been built as a result of the iwi prototypes initiative and are you satisfied with that number?]Hon WILLIE JACKSON: In terms of the numbers in terms of the iwi prototypes and in terms of where we're working in terms of Whai Kāinga Whai Oranga I'll go through the numbers for everyone. I want to go through all the numbers: 517 of 1018 homes have been approved or contracted or have resource consent; 246 have commenced build; and 62 homes have been built and received code completion—62 homes. Now you can rubbish that but we started at the end of 2021. We've made a start. There was no strategy from Tama Potaka's National Party and I know that's why he's asking the question—to embarrass his colleagues—and I thank you for the question.Hon Nanaia Mahuta: Can the Minister confirm that by partnering with iwi Whai Kāinga Whai Oranga enables the Government to increase housing options on whenua Māori or by leveraging the Māori asset base?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Absolutely. The reality is that the funding provided by Whai Kāinga Whai Oranga is a grant and that funding can be used by those Māori housing providers to either employ local Māori directly or support other local Māori businesses. The beauty about the strategy is it's not just about a house. It's just not about a kāinga. It's about a whole new lifestyle. We bring in employment around these people. We also get them to learn their whakapapa to learn a bit of reo. It's a whole whānau-type approach and it makes us very very proud as a Government to produce this and I know Tama Potaka's proud of us too.Tama Potaka: Kei a wai te whakautu tika? Kei a koe i whāki mai ai e ono tekau mā rua ngā whare hou kua hangā i tēnei pūtea. Kei te Minita Matua rānei a Megan Woods i whakautu mai ai i tērā wiki i te komiti social services tata ki te kotahi rau ngā whare hou kua hangaia mai.[Who has the correct answer? According to what you said 62 new houses were built using this funding. According to the Minister Megan Woods she answered last week in the Social Services and Community Committee that nearly 100 new houses were built.]Hon WILLIE JACKSON: E hoa ehara nōku te hē e hoa. E hoa ehara nōku te hē. Kōrero ki a Megan Woods. [My friend it's not my fault my friend. My friend it's not my fault. Talk to Megan Woods.]Ki ahau [to me] she was pretty close—not too far off a hundred.Tama Potaka: E hia ngā kāinga hou kua hangaia atu ki Ihumātao?[How many new houses have been built at Ihumātao?]Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Ihumātao was a different situation. I have to say I'm proud of the work that has gone on down there but we have five years—we have five years to produce a result and now we're about 18 months into this so far. It's not just about houses; it's about whānau it's about communities it's about working through and we came up with an innovative strategy. And do you know what that strategy was? Work with the community work with the people and work with Tama Potaka's relations and we have done a wonderful job.Hon Michael Woodhouse: Point of order Mr Speaker. Another very flowery response but the question was very direct: how many had been built?SPEAKER: Yeah I think it was addressed.