Bennett DavidHon DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East): Thank you Madam Speaker. I think everybody has really approached this bill with the right attitude this afternoon and we've heard a lot of thanks to the staff at the Waikato District Health Board (DHB) and I think that's very much appropriate. They have endured public—you could say nearly—condemnation of the way that the organisation has been run when they have done a sterling job through all that time in providing the services that they do day in day out as doctors as nurses as staff that assist in looking after people cooking meals and cleaning and everything that's there. I think they've done a wonderful job in very difficult circumstances so I'd like to also pay my thanks to the staff of the DHB.As the Hon Tim Macindoe said you know many board members had recognised there was a problem there and were willing to seek change. And I think the Minister has done the right thing in this case. And I'd like to thank him for the way that he has kept us informed and also approached the DHB as well. I think he's done a good job there. And we had Derek Wright there as Tim Macindoe mentioned before that had done a very good job and it would have been lovely to see him continue in that role but not to be. We wish the new leadership team of Karen and Ken all the best as they move their DHB forward.But I think it does raise an issue that we need to really focus our minds on as communities and not just parliamentarians and that is that you know we all accept that being an MP is a great honour and a great privilege and if you're a councillor and a local council it's similarly a great honour and a great privilege. But sometimes we don't put enough value on the board positions of some of those really big community organisations like DHBs. And if the reforms that we're going to see from the Government around education come to fruition we're going to see exactly the same thing there with large-scale education organisations as well.We need people in our communities to step up to those governance roles. You know at the end of the day we can do these bills every five years and find some DHB that fails to meet its requirements and that but it's actually a symptom of the fact that you know we've got great people in the Waikato that manage significant businesses and some manage significant community organisations and some are very active in their local iwi and other cultural activities and we have people that lead large migrant populations. And do we get these people standing up for our board positions in education and health? No we don't. Often we get ex-politicians that have got name recognition that can basically do well in the voting system that's based on the most popular name that's on the list or the most recognised. There needs to be a better way of doing that so we encourage people first of all to take out that leadership position because it is a community responsibility.And secondly we need to inform the voters of who is standing and what their credibility is and what they have to offer to that organisation. And so that is a challenge that this Minister like previous Ministers of Health have all experienced. And I would encourage the Ministers to look at that—you know there's the perennial question of should we have DHB reforms and that's always something that's raised. And that may be not what we need to do here today. But certainly I think the governance capacity on our DHBs needs looking at. Whether we have a group of people that have been shown to be experienced and have skills that can then be considered as appropriate for going into elections and have some kind of mandate or have some kind of certification showing that they've passed a director's course or they've shown themselves to be worthy in that—maybe there's something like that that we need to do locally or nationally.But there is an opportunity I think for us to really encourage those people out there that do have good governance and do want to make a difference to actually step up and go for things in our health and education system because we need those New Zealanders to take on those roles. I know it's a hard choice because you put yourself in the public light. Many people have been successful in their private endeavours but we need those people to also be community-orientated and help others by being able to take those roles on. So if there's any way we can encourage that in the future I think then we're actually doing a good service for our local communities and not just going from one district health board to the next as we go through this process as we have done in the past. So thank you Madam Speaker.