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Adams Amy: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Adams Amy: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:674;Page:19942] 
2. 
AMY ADAMS (National—Selwyn) 
 to the  
Minister of Finance 
: What lessons are there for the New Zealand economy on how sovereign governments around the world are managing their finances? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) 
: 
 Many developed countries are working very hard to rein in their deficits that were created by a set of unusual economic conditions over the past decade and by different degrees of unwise spending increases. The European financial markets face possible disruption from the fact that Greece and Portugal have defaulted on debts in all but name and other much larger economies such as Italy appear to be increasingly at risk. This is reflected by the fact that European sharemarkets fell 3 percent last night alone. The lesson for New Zealand is that very good tight management of Government spending and Government deficits is important. The other lesson for New Zealand is that New Zealanders need to be encouraged to save so that our banks are less reliant on these overseas financial markets to finance economic activity in New Zealand. 
Amy Adams 
: What was the outlook when this Government took office in 2008? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: The updated forecasts that the Government received in December 2008 were alarming. They showed a fiscal mess. Treasury projected perpetual deficits into the future and Crown debt would have been about 50 percent of GDP in a decade’s time and climbing. The Government has worked very hard over the last three Budgets to get on top of the alarming deficits and ever-rising debt that we inherited and over the next 6 months it may well matter if international financial markets are disrupted. 
Amy Adams 
: What steps has this Government taken to improve Government finances? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: The Government has struck a reasonable balance between on the one hand continuing to fund activity in the economy during a recession so that we can support jobs and public services and protecting the most vulnerable from the sharp edges of the recession but on the other hand vastly improving the quality of much wasteful Government expenditure. Now that the recession has receded we are in a position to show a credible track back to surplus in 2014-15. 
Amy Adams 
: What dangers still lurk around the fiscal position? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: I think it is fair to say that the Government faces two risks. One is the ongoing risk of financial contagion in Europe which could be disruptive in the financial markets from where the New Zealand Government and banks borrow money. The other risk would be a slow-down in China. I hope the country will not face the risk of a Labour Government because of the wreckage it left behind when it was kicked out of office in 2008.
Williamson Maurice: Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3) — First Reading 
Williamson Maurice: Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3) — First Reading 
[Volume:674;Page:19981] 
Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (Minister for Building and Construction) 
 on behalf of the  
Acting Leader 
 of the House: I move  
That the Regulations Review Committeeconsider the Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3) 
 that the committee report finally to the House on or before 12 September 2011 and that the committee have authority to meet at any time while the House is sitting (except during oral questions) during any evening on a day on which there has been a sitting of the House and on a Friday in a week in which there has been a sitting of the House despite Standing Orders 187 and 190(1)(b) and (c). 
Motion agreed to.
Ardern Jacinda: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Ardern Jacinda: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:674;Page:19946] 
7. 
JACINDA ARDERN (Labour) 
 to the  
Prime Minister 
: Does he stand by his statement that “the Government’s been doing what it can practically to stimulate the economy and to create jobs”? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister) 
: 
 Yes. The Government has been doing what it can to promote a low-inflation environment make sure the New Zealand economy is internationally competitive and make sure that there is an efficient use of resources. 
Jacinda Ardern 
: Is he concerned that Australia’s lower unemployment rate of 4.9 percent and forecast growth of 500000 new jobs over the next 2 years will see the record number of Kiwis who left for Australia set in May this year increase in the future? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: I think that if one was to raise the top personal tax rate whack on a capital gains tax and discourage investment then that would definitely be the case. 
Jacinda Ardern 
: Does Australia have a capital gains tax? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: Yes. That is because Australia’s top personal rate is set at 45 percent and the company rate is set at 30 percent and it has had to buttress a capital gains tax in there to stop people from otherwise organising what are their hideously complex affairs. 
Jacinda Ardern 
: Does he agree with Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s analysis that investment in skills training is vital to growing an economy and creating jobs; if so why has his Government cut skills funding by $140 million in the last 12 months? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: The reason funding was cut in certain areas was that there was a very low completion rate of some courses and this Government unlike the previous Labour Government is not the sort of Government that is prepared to throw money at things that are completely hopelessly failing and are not working. 
Jacinda Ardern 
: Does he stand by his statement in February 2008 that “New Zealand is already struggling under a skills shortage and this exodus”—to Australia—“will add to those worries.”; if so how deep are his concerns now that this exodus is almost 7 percent higher than when he made that comment? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: Yes. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Before I go to question No. 8 I simply say to Paul Quinn at the back of the House that some of those interjections do not add anything.
Bridges Simon: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
Bridges Simon: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:674;Page:19999] 
SIMON BRIDGES (National—Tauranga) 
: 
 Nanaia Mahuta referred to some of the debates that were held at the Maori Affairs Committee on the Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill. Many wide-ranging debates were held on whether the “h” should be included in “Wanganui” and on many other such things. It reminds me of a quote from Winston Churchill I think it was who said that if people wanted a long speech from him he could start straight away but if they wanted a short speech he needed time to prepare. Many of the speeches as I say were long and exceptionally wide ranging. I will give a very very short speech simply to say that this bill gives effect to the deed of on-account settlement in which the Crown and Wanganui iwi agree to the transfer of assets on-account of the settlement of the Wanganui historical claims. I agree with my colleague Paul Quinn that really this bill is a continuation of the very proud record National is gaining in settling—and promptly settling—Treaty settlements in this country for the betterment of all New Zealanders Maori and Pakeha.
Young Jonathan: Television New Zealand Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Young Jonathan: Television New Zealand Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:674;Page:20016] 
JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
: 
 Somebody once said that there is no such thing as a free lunch and that everything costs something. Television New Zealand (TVNZ) costs a tremendous amount of money to run. Mr Hipkins has certainly said tonight that the charter does not work. Mr Burns made comments regarding some of the programming that he felt was substandard. If we looked at the sorts of programmes that Mr Burns was alluding to that would be good to watch—for example documentaries—we would probably ask what channels they would be on. They might be on the Discovery Channel or they could be on the History Channel. 
What I am saying is that the landscape of TV viewing is changing. In the town of Stratford there is a museum and in it is one of the original TVNZ cameras—one would hardly fit it into the back of a Land Rover—whereas today one could see somebody recording a documentary for television and the camera would fit in the palm of their hand and then one could watch it on an iPad. The technology of TV viewing—how it is delivered and how it is paid for—is changing throughout the world. What this bill is doing is seeking to be flexible in order to allow those changes to come into New Zealand. It takes away the charter and replaces it with a briefer and less prescriptive statement of functions which enables TVNZ to determine its own priorities against a general set of functions. 
I really disagree with the statement that Mr Hipkins made about nothing south of the Bombay Hills being viewed on TV. I would say that some of my favourite programmes would be programmes like  
Coasters 
 which is a travel documentary about all of the coastal regions around New Zealand and it has been highly popular. What about  
Hunger for the Wild 
 that fantastic show about wild game that is available around the different parts of New Zealand? The TV show went in there with Al Brown—Brownie—from that great restaurant Logan Brown here in Wellington. People were interviewed and beautiful meals were cooked in cabins in baches on beaches and all sorts of things—certainly not north of the Bombay Hills. All of that was funded by NZ On Air. 
So this is how we are doing it: we are bringing New Zealand content through NZ On Air not necessarily through the strict parameters that have existed in the past but with a more flexible format that will see programmes such as those available to all New Zealanders. I am very happy to commend this bill to the House. Thank you.
Turei Metiria: Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading 
Turei Metiria: Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading 
[Volume:674;Page:19986] 
METIRIA TUREI (Co-Leader—Green) 
: 
 Tena koutou katoa. I want to take a very short call on the Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill (No 2). Charles Chauvel set out very clearly earlier the process by which this bill comes to the House. It is I think the last bill in a process of reform. The Green Party has also agreed to the timetable for that reform. We feel that this process has been quite good and has worked quite well. We support this legislation. We support the changes in the updating of the processes the move to online access for voters which will enable them to change their details and the bringing together of the two agencies into one to make for a more effective organisation for managing elections and referendums—including the MMP referendum—for the New Zealand public. We support the legislation and look forward to its speedy progress through the House.
Calder Cam: Weathertight Homes Resolution Services (Financial Assistance Package) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Calder Cam: Weathertight Homes Resolution Services (Financial Assistance Package) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:674;Page:19956] 
Dr CAM CALDER (National) 
: 
 It is my pleasure to rise to speak on the Weathertight Homes Resolution Services (Financial Assistance Package) Amendment Bill. I am amazed to hear comment from the Opposition about a skills deficit. For 2 years National has been in Government and we take responsibility for the great advances we have made over that time. But if there is a skills deficit which is what we are hearing from the Opposition one can assume only that it grew in the 9 years of the last Government. In fact Labour did little or nothing to address that appalling blight on the lives of thousands of New Zealanders. 
I am very appreciative of the Minister for Building and Construction outlining how the systemic failure in respect of leaky homes developed—and it was a systemic failure. It is interesting to hear that at no stage did a judge sheet home responsibility to a Crown entity. That in itself is very interesting. Designers builders consenting authorities material failures the monolithic cladding that we have heard about and owners not taking care of routine maintenance—all of these factors contributed to this problem which is blighting the lives of tens of thousands of hard-working New Zealanders. 
The Government has put together this financial assistance package to address the problem. We believe it is a fair solution. It spreads the costs as evenly as possible at 25 percent to Government 25 percent to the local authority and 50 percent to the homeowner. The package has strong support from local authorities. Nobody has to take up this option but it is an option that is available to owners to get their properties fixed swiftly after far too long. 
We have heard that the estimated cost to the Government is possibly in excess of $1 billion but we believe it is money well spent on a problem that thousands of New Zealanders have had to endure for far too long. This Government is about getting results and addressing something that is equivalent to a natural disaster in this country. This package will deliver thousands of New Zealanders from a debilitating uncertain blight on their lives. I commend the bill to the House.
Gilmore Aaron: Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3) — First Reading 
Gilmore Aaron: Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3) — First Reading 
[Volume:674;Page:19976] 
AARON GILMORE (National) 
: 
 This is a wonderful opportunity to stand and talk to the Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 3). It is not often that members of the Regulations Review Committee stand to speak so it is an honour and a privilege to have this opportunity. I will start by talking about one particular thing. This bill does a really important thing: it outlaws the export of military products and in particular components of nuclear or biological weapons or of chemical weapons. I think every New Zealander probably thought that was already outlawed. This bill does a number of things and brings in a number of regulations but it shocked me when I realised that those exports were not currently banned in New Zealand. 
I look forward to being a member of the select committee as it looks at many of these things. The Customs Export Prohibition Order 2011 has some very interesting things that I think the committee will look into in serious depth as it will look at the other issues in the bill around tobacco duties and the recent increase in those duties which I think is a very important step forward for the health of New Zealanders up and down the country. I look forward to the great deputy chairperson to my left Mr Tim Macindoe from Hamilton West admirably chairing the committee when and if required. Thank you.
Upston Louise: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Upston Louise: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:674;Page:19951] 
10. 
LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupo) 
 to the  
Acting Minister of Energy and Resources 
: What recent reports has she received on levels of renewable electricity generation? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA (Acting Minister of Energy and Resources) 
: 
 The  
New Zealand Energy Quarterly 
 released by the Ministry of Economic Development last month showed that renewable electricity generation made up 79 percent of all electricity generated in the March 2011 quarter. The last time that New Zealand generated that amount of electricity from renewable resources was in 1996 also under a National Government. 
Louise Upston 
: Why is the Government committed to renewable electricity generation? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: The Government is aiming for 90 percent of electricity generation to come from renewable energy sources by 2025. This is because we are blessed with abundant natural resources and the development of these resources reduces our reliance on thermal electricity generation sources and reduces our electricity generation emissions. The target reflects our commitment to transitioning over time to a low carbon economy.
Quinn Paul: Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading 
Quinn Paul: Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading 
[Volume:674;Page:19990] 
PAUL QUINN (National) 
: 
 It is a pity we are getting close to the dinner break because I have so much to say on the Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill (No 2). I would like initially to make two specific comments. Firstly this bill is yet another example of the efficient way in which this Government is going about its business. This bill consolidates three organisations into one and that will give greater efficiency save the taxpayer money and carry on the excellent business of getting rid of or minimising red tape so the country can get on and focus on the real issues. 
The second point I want to discuss very briefly and one that has not been raised is the ability of the Tuhono Trust to receive information so it can contact its electors. If I had much more time I would go into that a bit more but with those few words I commend the bill to the House. 
Bill read a second time. 
Sitting suspended from 6 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.
Wagner Nicky: Weathertight Homes Resolution Services (Financial Assistance Package) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Wagner Nicky: Weathertight Homes Resolution Services (Financial Assistance Package) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:674;Page:19961] 
NICKY WAGNER (National) 
: 
 I am very pleased to support the third reading of the Weathertight Homes Resolution Services (Financial Assistance Package) Amendment Bill. This bill has been a long time coming. The leaky homes problem emerged in the mid-1990s and continued until about 2005. It was at that time that the Labour Government refused to acknowledge the enormity and the severity of the problem and it also refused any Government compensation. In fact the Labour Prime Minister called it a media beat-up. The Labour Government’s solution was to establish the Weathertight Homes Resolution Service which set up a process that was so time-consuming and so expensive that the costs of determining liability were often substantially more than the costs of repairs. Millions of dollars were spent on disputes rather than on fixing anything. The estimated number of leaky homes in New Zealand could be up to 42000 and the cost of repairing those homes is enormous. To get that into perspective the cost of leaky homes could prove to be more than the cost of the Christchurch earthquakes. 
When National came into Government in 2008 we made a commitment to dealing with this issue and to delivering a pragmatic cost-effective solution that would mean funding would be spent on repairs rather than on lawyers and disputes. New Zealanders need to be able to repair and restore their homes and this bill provides a method of funding that will allow homeowners and families to get on with their lives. The Hon Maurice Williamson has worked long and hard to piece together this economic package. It means that generally speaking local government has agreed to pay 25 percent central government will contribute 25 percent and householders will pay 50 percent but the Government will guarantee homeowner loans so that obtaining finance will not be a problem. 
The Government’s financial package is expected to cost over a billion dollars over 5 years but we believe that it will be money well spent. Leaky homes have caused misery to thousands of families and many have had to live with this problem for years. Today is a new beginning and this bill will give relief to thousands of victims of leaky homes. It might not be the perfect answer and it might not fit everybody but at least now everyone who has a leaky home has a solution and they can choose to take it. Thank you.
Blue Jackie: Road User Charges Bill — Second Reading 
Blue Jackie: Road User Charges Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:675;Page:21042] 
Dr JACKIE BLUE (National) 
: 
 I am pleased to speak in the second reading of the Road User Charges Bill which basically is very straightforward. It modernises a very old Act which was first devised in 1978. Certainly the submissions supported the need for modernisation and updating it. I commend this bill to the House.
Henare Tau: Road User Charges Bill — Second Reading 
Henare Tau: Road User Charges Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:675;Page:21040] 
Hon TAU HENARE (National) 
: 
 Established in 1978 the road-user charges system has done us proud. But this is the 21st century and so what our Minister of Transport and our Government want to do is reduce compliance costs make the system easier to understand and change the definition of licence weights. It is estimated that $30 million a year goes towards road-user charges evasion. What we want to make happen is that the system is easier to understand for the worker for the driver and also for the Government. I commend the Road User Charges Bill to the House.
Hodgson Pete: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Hodgson Pete: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:675;Page:21034] 
Hon PETE HODGSON (Labour—Dunedin North) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: If the member is trifling with my decision— 
Hon PETE HODGSON 
: I am certainly not. I seek leave to give a contribution of no longer than 5 minutes strictly around matters to do with commencement. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 
Hon PETE HODGSON 
: Very good Mr Chairman. 
Jo Goodhew 
: Yes. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Sorry I have ruled no objection.
Bennett David: Road User Charges Bill — Second Reading 
Bennett David: Road User Charges Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:675;Page:21038] 
DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East) 
: 
 The Road User Charges Bill is very important legislation and reflects the work of the Minister of Transport and the Ministry of Transport in providing the best process and opportunity for making decisions in this area. We do not accept at all the Labour Party’s comment that the Government is not listening to and engaging with businesses in order to make this measure worthwhile and successful for them. This is a good bill. It will achieve its purposes and it is in the best interests of the transport sector. Thank you.
Dean Jacqui: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Dean Jacqui: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:675;Page:21028] 
JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Dean Jacqui: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Dean Jacqui: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:675;Page:21025] 
JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 268 in the name of the Hon Simon Power to Part 1 be agreed to. 
Amendments agreed to. 
Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Goodhew Jo: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Goodhew Jo: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:675;Page:21022] 
JO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Hodgson Pete: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Hodgson Pete: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:675;Page:21034] 
Hon PETE HODGSON (Labour—Dunedin North) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I just point out that debate on clauses 1 and 2 which is the conclusion of the Committee stage of the debate is often wide ranging and it is a surprise to me— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I know what the member is saying. I have listened intently. There have been more calls on clauses 1 and 2 than on Part 2. I brought to the Committee’s attention that although this is a peroration a tying-in the title and commencement must be mentioned because in previous speeches they have not been mentioned. I feel that at this stage we have run the course of time and there is no new material. I have accepted the closure motion.
Power Simon: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Power Simon: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:675;Page:21026] 
Hon SIMON POWER (Minister of Commerce) 
: 
 I am not sure how I would feel if I was Elspeth Buchanan after the debate on Part 1 but we are on to Part 2 now. Of course Part 2 is a much smaller more focused part than Part 1 which I am very pleased about. It means that debate will be constrained to the very specific clauses contained in Part 2 and I guess the Committee is the poorer for not having the Hon Judith Tizard to guide this particular part through the Committee given her somewhat chequered association with copyright legislation because of course Part 2 amends the Copyright Act 1994. 
Part 2 has three broad purposes. The first is to amend sections 87 and 188 of the Copyright Act to restore an exception to copyright infringement that was unintentionally removed by way of a drafting error in the Copyright (New Technologies) Amendment Act 2008. It also contains amendments to that Act to strengthen the enforcement of criminal offences for copyright piracy in the same manner that Part 1 introduces amendments to the Trade Marks Act to do the same. Finally Part 2 includes amendments to the Copyright Act to make a small change to the border protection measures against the importation of pirated copyright works. To increase the efficiency and effectiveness of the Customs Service in administering these measures an amendment is being made to allow the service to temporarily suspend enforcement of a border protection notice under certain conditions. 
That is really all I have to say about Part 2 because as I say if members look at the structure of this bill they will see that Part 2 is a much smaller part than Part 1 with a far more specific focus.
Goodhew Jo: National Animal Identification and Tracing Bill — Second Reading 
Goodhew Jo: National Animal Identification and Tracing Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:675;Page:21016] 
JO GOODHEW (National—Rangitata) 
: 
 This will be a short call on the National Animal Identification and Tracing Bill. The bill will enable the establishment of a national animal identification and tracing system to control and prevent animal diseases and product contamination. My largely rural electorate of Rangitata will welcome that and it will be better all round for New Zealand and New Zealand agriculture. I commend this bill. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: That is the end of the calls. 
Darien Fenton 
: Mr Speaker. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: There are no other calls. That is the end of the debate. The question is— 
Hon Rick Barker 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I accept that it is entirely your decision as to how calls are taken but we have now had three National calls in a row and I clearly saw my colleague Darien Fenton stand to take a call. Instead of taking a call from the National side of the House and swapping to this side you decided to keep the call on that side. We are just a bit puzzled about this because it is normal for calls to swap backwards and forwards. There is a pre-arranged order but I would suspect that National has had more calls on this than we would normally expect and Labour fewer. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Thank you. I understand the honourable member’s concern. I say to the member that the Labour Opposition is entitled to four calls; the National Government is entitled to five. The call of ACT which is part of the Government was traded to the National side. That is how the speeches have been done and we have now concluded.
Young Jonathan: National Animal Identification and Tracing Bill — Second Reading 
Young Jonathan: National Animal Identification and Tracing Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:675;Page:21015] 
JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
: 
 Thank you for the opportunity to speak and support the National Animal Identification and Tracing Bill. I come from a rural province that has a large dependency on and also great expertise in the agricultural sector. Despite our great success in oil and gas exploration and despite our great success in engineering and all the service industries around those areas of the economy Taranaki continues to be one of the premier agricultural areas in the country. So this bill is very important to us and our economy. It works very well to protect our markets and ensure they always remain desiring of the products and commodities that come out of our region. 
NAIT Ltd is the industry-owned company responsible for implementing the National Animal Identification and Tracing scheme for cattle and deer which is designed to link people property and livestock. That is from its press release that came out yesterday. It said that the scheme will assure New Zealand’s overseas markets that a livestock disease can be quickly contained in the event of any biosecurity incident. 
Sixty percent of our exports come from the agricultural sector so we are incredibly dependent upon the sector. It bodes very well and it is very important that we have this technology integrated into the tracing of any biosecurity threat in order to not only protect our livestock and our farms from the incursion of TB but also assure our overseas and international markets that we are putting in place best practice to ensure the quality of our goods as we market them offshore. Thank you. 
Darien Fenton 
: Mr Speaker. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: No I am calling the honourable member Dr Paul Hutchison.
Vote: National Animal Identification and Tracing Bill — Second Reading 
Vote: National Animal Identification and Tracing Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:675;Page:21017] 
A party vote  was called for on the question  
That the National Animal Identification and Tracing Bill be now read a second time. 
Ayes 110 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 6; Maori Party 3; Progressive 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Bill read a second time.
English Bill: Motions — New Zealand Defence Force—Death of Corporal Doug Grant in Afghanistan 
English Bill: Motions — New Zealand Defence Force—Death of Corporal Doug Grant in Afghanistan 
[Volume:675;Page:20961] 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Deputy Prime Minister)  
on behalf of the Prime Minister: I seek leave to move a motion without notice on the recent death of SAS soldier Corporal Doug Grant in Afghanistan. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course being followed? There is no objection. 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: On behalf of the Prime Minister I move  
That this House pay tribute to Corporal Doug Grant a courageous soldier who lost his life while serving in New Zealand’s SAS. 
 Corporal Doug Grant died in action at the age of 41 on his second tour to Afghanistan with the SAS. We mourn the loss of Corporal Grant with a very heavy heart. 
New Zealanders are rightly very proud of our SAS soldiers. They are among the bravest most resourceful and most resilient soldiers in the world. We all grieve when we lose one of them. Corporal Grant’s death is a reminder of the dangers the New Zealand Defence Force’s personnel face while serving in Afghanistan. They carry out an important role with great professionalism and courage. We mourn the death of Corporal Grant and we remain committed to the work the Defence Force is carrying out in Afghanistan. 
Corporal Grant was a man who exemplified the Defence Force’s values of courage commitment comradeship and integrity. He recognised the dangerous and volatile conditions he was facing in his work but he wanted to be there anyway. He had absolute faith in the work of the SAS and he knew he could help the Afghan people. Above all else he loved his family: his wife Tina and his two young children. I acknowledge the support that the army has provided for the family of Corporal Grant. 
I also pay tribute to those who were with Doug at the time in Afghanistan and those who brought him home. A fellow SAS trooper was first to his side and attempted to resuscitate him while under fire. He and other SAS members then extracted him in extremely difficult conditions and took him to a New Zealand Army medic outside the compound. Together they got him to a medevac helicopter which was provided by the US team to transport him to hospital in Bagram. Our Australian friends then provided a plane at very short notice so that we were able to bring Doug back home. I thank everyone who helped to rescue him and bring him home. I know that the SAS will continue his good work in his memory. 
The members of this House honour Doug’s sacrifice. Our thoughts remain with his family and friends. Corporal Doug Grant paid the ultimate price for his service to his country. He is a hero and we will never forget him.
Macindoe Tim: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Macindoe Tim: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:675;Page:21033] 
TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I remind members that we are on clauses 1 and 2 which are the title and commencement clauses. You must bring those into the debate.
Parker David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Parker David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:675;Page:20979] 
11. 
Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
 to the  
Acting Minister of Energy and Resources 
: Does she stand by the Government’s decision to require Meridian Energy to sell some of its hydro-electricity dams on the Waitaki River to Genesis Energy and how have the proceeds of the sale been used? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA (Acting Minister of Energy and Resources) 
: 
 Tena koe Mr Speaker. To the first part of the question yes and to the second part of the question that is a matter of responsibility for the Minister for State Owned Enterprises. But the Minister of Finance has already referred to it in a couple of his answers this afternoon and my understanding is that a special dividend of around $520 million was returned to the Crown. 
Hon David Parker 
: Could steps like the requirement to sell those assets from Meridian Energy to Genesis Energy have been taken if Meridian Energy and Genesis Energy had been in partial private ownership; if so how would the Government have achieved that? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: That is not the situation we have and speculating on what might happen under what is proposed does not seem to me to be a reasonable question. 
Hon David Parker 
: Is the Minister then now giving notice to anyone considering buying shares in these companies if they are sold that National might for market reasons intervene with repercussions on the value of shares? 
Hon Craig Foss 
: It’s a finance question. 
Hon David Parker 
: It is an energy question. 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: No. 
Hon David Parker 
: Is the Minister then now admitting that following the privatisation of shares in Meridian Energy and Genesis Energy the Government’s ability to intervene in the market in order to get better prices is to be constrained? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: No. [ 
Interruption 
] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I want to hear the question. 
Hon David Parker 
: Given that following the privatisation of the shares the Crown would have fewer options for controlling excess electricity prices why does the Minister dismiss the concerns of Grey Power that her Government’s privatisation plans would lead to higher power prices? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: First of all those suppositions are incorrect. But if I may I will refer the member to the consumer switching statistics which have doubled from the end of 2009 to July this year in terms of the number of consumers who have switched companies to find a more competitive power price for themselves. I think that Grey Power will find that is very helpful to its members.
Young Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Young Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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12. 
JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
 to the  
Minister of Corrections 
: What reports has she received about efforts to cut re-offending rates and rehabilitate offenders? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Corrections) 
: 
 I am pleased to report that the Department of Corrections is making significant progress in its efforts to reduce reoffending. Over the last 3 years there has been a 159 percent increase in the number of New Zealand Qualifications Authority qualifications achieved by prisoners. In the last financial year 711 national certificates were awarded to prisoners compared with 495 in the previous year and just 275 in 2008-09. The qualifications include certificates in horticulture building construction mechanical engineering and crane operation. National certificates are real qualifications that will help prisoners to get real jobs when they are released from prison. 
Jonathan Young 
: In what other areas are prisoners receiving training? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS 
: Over the last financial year prisoners engaged in employment training have achieved a further 2000 qualifications. This includes trade certificates vocational driving licences and first aid certificates. The department is also teaching prisoners to read and write at the same time as they are in work training. Forty-six employment structures have been upskilled to provide this training which has so far benefited 600 prisoners. In the next few months the department will also be opening new workshops at Christchurch Men’s Prison. This will see a further 130 prisoners undertake trade training in areas where there are likely to be major skills shortages as we move towards rebuilding Christchurch. All good news.
Curran Clare: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Curran Clare: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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1. 
CLARE CURRAN (Labour—Dunedin South) 
 to the  
Chairperson of the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee 
: Has he requested any submissions of evidence about the petition to the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee signed by nearly 14000 people calling on the Government to retain the Hillside and Woburn workshops? 
DAVID BENNETT (Chairperson of the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee) 
: 
 I have not requested any submissions on this petition. 
Clare Curran 
: Have no— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I must hear this supplementary question. 
Clare Curran 
: Did the committee consider asking for submissions? 
Mr SPEAKER 
: That is not the kind of question that can be asked of the chair because were that to be the case it would be a decision of the committee.
Mallard Trevor: Points of Order — Social Networking Site—Fake Profile 
Mallard Trevor: Points of Order — Social Networking Site—Fake Profile 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. It has just been drawn to my attention that there appears to be an impersonation of a member of Parliament reported by Stuff by way of a false Facebook page entitled “Aaron Gilmore for PM”. My question to you is whether the matter of that sort of impersonation should be brought up as privilege or whether it is a private matter.
Goodhew Jo: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Goodhew Jo: Trade Marks (International Treaties and Enforcement) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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JO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Power Simon: Business of the House 
Power Simon: Business of the House 
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Hon SIMON POWER (Acting Leader of the House) 
: 
 I seek leave for the Hon Chris Carter to make a valedictory statement at 5.45 p.m. today and for the House to suspend for the dinner break at the conclusion of his valedictory statement. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course of action being followed? There is none.
Mapp Wayne: Motions — New Zealand Defence Force—Death of Corporal Doug Grant in Afghanistan 
Mapp Wayne: Motions — New Zealand Defence Force—Death of Corporal Doug Grant in Afghanistan 
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Hon Dr WAYNE MAPP (Minister of Defence) 
: 
 On behalf of the New Zealand Defence Force and the Ministry of Defence I wish also to express my sympathy and condolences to the family of Corporal Doug Grant especially to his wife Tina and their two young children and also to his wider family. Corporal Grant’s loss is deeply felt throughout the defence force but especially amongst his closest comrades in the New Zealand Special Air Service. Corporal Grant died serving his country. He was in the midst of the rescue of members of the British Council in Kabul. They were ultimately rescued and his family have the thanks of the British Council and of Prime Minister Cameron for his heroic endeavours in this regard. 
Corporal Grant served our country for 21 years in the New Zealand Army: firstly in the Hauraki Regiment then in the infantry and then in the engineers. In fact he actually built the family home. But his greatest commitment was to the Special Air Service where he served from 1997 through to 2003 and then again most recently at the not such a young age of 41 this year. He knew full well the risks that he was undertaking. To join the Special Air Service requires the utmost dedication and perseverance. Only the best get through. They are the elite of the New Zealand Army and they are assigned the most difficult of roles. As we have heard he had wanted to join the SAS from his teenage years and his personal characteristics of resilience and resolution meant that he succeeded in this most difficult trial of character. He was a man who lived life to the full knowing full well the risks he was undertaking. 
The New Zealand Special Air Service has been deployed to Afghanistan on three separate occasions in 2001 in 2004 and most recently now from 2009. Corporal Grant had served twice in Afghanistan as well as in Timor-Leste and in Bosnia. He believed in the mission: keeping New Zealand safe from terrorism and giving the Afghan people and their Government the ability to join the broader family of nations as a responsible nation. Clearly this is a difficult challenge but real progress is being made. Corporal Grant was in fact helping the Afghan Police Crisis Response Unit to play its part in an improved Afghan Government. 
The loss of Corporal Grant is a reminder to everyone in this House of the cost of war. Governments make the decisions to deploy our young men and women on dangerous operations but it is they and their families who actually pay the price. Each life is precious. Today we mourn the loss of Corporal Doug Grant. 
Lest we forget. 
Motion agreed to.
Goff Phil: Motions — New Zealand Defence Force—Death of Corporal Doug Grant in Afghanistan 
Goff Phil: Motions — New Zealand Defence Force—Death of Corporal Doug Grant in Afghanistan 
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Hon PHIL GOFF (Leader of the Opposition) 
: 
 On behalf of the New Zealand Labour Party I support the motion and express our sadness and our sense of loss at the death of Corporal Doug Grant who died in the service of his country on 19 August in Afghanistan. To his wife Tina we extend our deepest sympathy and also I think we reflect with a sense of tragedy that their two young children—Jemma aged 7 and Jaden aged 5—will grow up without their father. But they will grow up proud of the man he was and proud of his accomplishments. We extend our condolences also to Doug’s mum and dad and his four brothers and also to the SAS and the wider New Zealand Defence Force who were really part of his family as well. 
Doug Grant had always wanted to be a member of the SAS. At his funeral service a story was read out that he had written in year 10 at school in which he imagined he was a member of the SAS going out and rescuing his schoolmates from an attack made upon them. He joined up with the SAS and served in Afghanistan but then decided to transfer back to the mainstream army at Linton to spend more time with his young family. But as is so often the case with members of our SAS the pull of the unit was too strong and he made the decision to go back knowing full well that he would be serving in a combat capacity in Afghanistan. 
Doug Grant was a very decent man. His family say he had a strong sense of social justice and a strong opposition to injustice. In fact along with other members of the Patriots Defence Force Motorcycle Club he campaigned actively against violence within the family. He had good taste—he rode a Triumph—and his commanding officer said that he approached life in the same way that he rode his motorbike: above the speed limit. He cared little for rank believing that respect came from what one did not what rank one held. He was also a great storyteller to his friends and his family earning him the nickname “Doug TV”. 
Doug Grant is the third soldier serving with the New Zealand Defence Force to die in Afghanistan and the seventh New Zealand citizen to die there while serving as a soldier. Like the others he understood the risks and he died doing something he believed in. Today in this House we pay our respect to him and acknowledge his service and his sacrifice on behalf of his country.
Norman Russel William: Motions — New Zealand Defence Force—Death of Corporal Doug Grant in Afghanistan 
Norman Russel William: Motions — New Zealand Defence Force—Death of Corporal Doug Grant in Afghanistan 
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Dr RUSSEL NORMAN (Co-Leader—Green) 
: 
 With great sadness I express the Green Party’s heartfelt sympathies for the family of Doug Grant: his wife Tina and their young children Jemma and Jaden. Regardless of one’s views about the war Douglas Grant can be remembered as a man who died while on a mission to rescue others and it was not his first time attempting to do so. In the  
New Zealand Herald  
last week a friend of his recalled serving alongside him in East Timor where they helped rescue 600 villagers from a militia. Very few people can lay claim to such feats. 
But serving his country was not something Doug Grant did just on foreign shores; it was something he did back home as well. Doug Grant was a champion to end violence against women and violence in the family. As a member of the Patriots Defence Force Motorcycle Club he was the road captain in the 2010 White Ribbon Ride to end violence against women. During the ride Douglas Grant’s group visited more than 40 communities and he is remembered for giving his bed away each night so that one of his team could get a good night’s sleep. Douglas Grant whether it is as a corporal or as a captain you will be remembered.