Allan KiritapuKIRITAPU ALLAN (Labour): Tuatahi ka nui te mihi ki a koe e te tuahine mō tēnei pire. Kia ū kia māia kia kaha koinā te mahi—ko koe he tino pukunui; ki a mātou ngā tāngata e kore kōrero i ngā wāhi katoa so kei a koe e te tuahine thank you.[Firstly I congratulate the sister on this bill. Be firm be steadfast be staunch—that is what is needed; you are very greedy to those of us who don't often get the opportunity to speak so to you sister thank you.]Thank you for bringing this very important bill before the House. I guess I had probably three key questions—I probably won't use all my time Madam Chair—just three kind of key questions that I was really interested in your feedback on. Looking through the report in particular I went to the minority view and noticed there were a couple of comments in the minority view that I found interesting. One that I guess I did have some further questions around—at the bottom there they mentioned that The bill is poorly timed as we are currently carrying out an education conversation in a range of other reviews in the education sector." So I guess the broader question that I have there is the consultation requirements in the specific amendments that you've set out in this member's bill—just how does that fit in with the broader educational reforms that are currently under way? I'm sure you would have thought through that but I was wondering if you could just elaborate on that a little bit. I pick up on my colleague Michael Wood earlier. He made that statement and I turned around and I gave him a little look because I was going to commence my remarks also with that proverb: nothing for us without us. You know in my time prior to this House in my former profession that was the catchcry of community upon community that Government would do things to them without engaging with them. It became the catalyst for many years—well many generations some would say—of becoming disconnected from a system that was constantly doing things to them.But consultation can have many different faces and many different forms. I guess my second question that I had for you in particular is: how is the consultation that you've proposed here likely to occur? You've set out very clearly the communities that the Government must engage with and I do commend you and comments from my colleagues have widely traversed the benefit of the mandatory requirements to consult with that broad consortium of population groups. But yes the devil is always in the detail so they say. So I would be really interested to hear your thoughts on what you envisage the form of consultation might look like.The third question I had with regard to I guess that same point as well is that sometimes consultation can happen rather swiftly and under a curtain somewhere off to the corner and it can be said that you know some official went out somewhere and they asked somebody and that consultation occurred. So I guess my question on behalf of—again having sat through many a hearing and far too many litigation forums prior to now debating and trying to get some resolution around the mode of consultation and really what you're envisaging for the transparency around the way in which the Government might consult with these communities that you've proposed they will be.So just those three questions there on my behalf Jan but I do really—the member Jan. Ha ha!CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): Order! You must actually use the member's full proper name.KIRITAPU ALLAN: That's why I was laughing at myself Madam Chair because I wasn't—usually you say the honourable somebody but I wasn't quite sure what the criteria was. But I do—CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): So could you refer to the member by her proper name please. Thank you.KIRITAPU ALLAN: Sorry yes the member Jan Tinetti. So yeah—look I do want to commend you because you've spotted a gap in our current legislative environment and you have absolutely filled that gap. So thank you very much Jan Tinetti."