Mark Ron: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMark Ron: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 12 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:7977. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]12.RON MARK (Deputy Leader—NZ First) to the Minister of Finance: Does he stand by all of his answers to oral question No. 1 on 11 November 2015?Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance): I do with one small exception and that is that I have made a statement that New Zealanders’ savings have been positive for 5 years which has not happened for the last 25 years. In fact it has not happened for the last 21 years.Darroch Ball: How can he stand by his statement that “we now have the lowest rate ever of young people not in education employment or training.”—being at 11 percent—when the rate was 10.3 percent when he was in Opposition?Hon BILL ENGLISH: We are just using the measures as they have been consistently measured on a consistent basis for some time.Darroch Ball: I seek leave to table a document prepared by the Parliamentary Library which shows the measurement of the “neet” rates in—Mr SPEAKER: Order! The document has been described I will put the leave.Hon Annette King: So you didn’t tell the truth Bill.Mr SPEAKER: And that was unhelpful. Leave is sought to table that particular document. Is there any objection? There is none. It can be tabled.Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.Darroch Ball: Does he agree with Steven Joyce’s comment made last week: “… we will quote the ‘neet’ figure which is the lowest it has been in 7 years at 11 percent” when I tabled documents in the House that day proving that to be demonstrably false?Hon BILL ENGLISH: It is possible that we are talking about a different group of people. The numbers that we have been quoting relate to the group that has been the highest priority to the Government—that is 15 to 19-year-olds—and it is the lowest in that series since March 2004. It is possible that for the wider group of 15 to 24-year-olds there were points when it was lower than that.Darroch Ball: I seek leave to table a document entitled “Introducing the youth not in employment education training”—Mr SPEAKER: The date of the document please.Darroch Ball: —“indicator” which shows the—Mr SPEAKER: Order! The date of—[Interruption] Order! I am not even going to put the leave. I asked the member for the date and he continues getting his message across. I am not even going to bother.Darroch Ball: Supplementary question.Mr SPEAKER: Supplementary question Darroch Ball. [Interruption]Darroch Ball: Well he should know.Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member will now rise to ask a supplementary question in line with the Standing Orders or he will not get the opportunity.Darroch Ball: Will he admit that the “neet” rate has actually increased under National’s 7 years in Government—that is 72000 youth not in employment education or training which is 6000 more under National? That is an increase of almost a thousand young people every year.Hon BILL ENGLISH: In the first place as I said we probably are talking about different groups. We are talking about 15 to 19-year-olds; the member is talking about 15 to 24-year-olds. Secondly we look forward to the member’s constructive contribution to more solutions because the Government has put in place for instance the innovative Youth Guarantee system the Māori and Pacific trades training system and now the youth services which provide individual supervision—[Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order!Hon BILL ENGLISH: —for every young person—[Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point in continuing with the answer if the member is not interested in it.