Jackson WillieHon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister of Employment): Kia ora Madam Assistant Speaker. Gee I was just looking across at the House there. You know 15 years ago I looked over there and Gerry Brownlee was there lost disorientated and didn't know where he was going; 15 years on nothing much has changed. Nothing much has changed. I look over there and Gerry still doesn't know where he's going—disorientated.Stuart Nash the whanaungatanga with our Minister Meka Whaitiri over here couldn't be better. Hawke's Bay Ngāti Kahungunu is doing—he's probably been the best police Minister we've seen in the last few years. No doubt about it—no doubt about it. We're on track now. This Government is showing so much unity and the select committee is testament to that—no doubt about it. No doubt about it. Andrew Bayly: That's why you have to talk about it. You have to talk about it.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Kotahitanga and unity is something you're not used to. Gerry—look at him. He can't even concentrate you know—doesn't even know where he is. He doesn't even—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): Order!Hon WILLIE JACKSON: —know where he is. He's like the rest of you.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): Order!Hon WILLIE JACKSON: You're a disgrace.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): Order!Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Yes Madam Assistant Speaker.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): Could I ask the member—Hon Gerry Brownlee: What's the name of the bill?The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): Order! Members—Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Concentrate Gerry—oh Madam Assistant Speaker sorry.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): A little bit more just order in the House please. Can I ask the member when he's referring to other members to use proper names and please don't bring the Speaker into the debate.Hon Gerry Brownlee: And stick to the bill.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): And that would be helpful too. Thank you.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: No absolutely—absolutely. It's a very important bill today because basically it's an example of kotahitanga in terms of the party. As you well know—sorry Madam Assistant Speaker—we're on course over here. You've heard the very eloquent Minister over here who spelt it out—spelt it out better than any previous Tory—oh National Party Minister I should say. Can I just say too that Shane Jones is doing a terrific job isn't he? What a fabulous job he's been doing.Hon Gerry Brownlee: Oh great—why don't we give him a go?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: He's had a call today—has he had a call today? You'll be hearing more from him as you hear the strength of the coalition over the next few days in unity—no divisions unlike yourselves. Jeez you cleaned that Simon Bridges up today brother.Anyway coming back to the bill in terms of the—jeez that was a wonderful performance in the question time today. It was a fabulous performance from our whanaunga Mr Jones. Poor old Simon. He's probably still having a bit of a tangi but anyway.Coming back to the bill today—the Customs and Excise Bill yes.Brett Hudson: Oh yay!Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Absolutely—it's a very important bill for our Minister over here. She's showing the way in terms of—well you know she's one of our fabulous five Māori Ministers. We're being led by Nanaia Mahuta over here—gosh she's doing a terrific job—and Kelvin Davis. We've got the Dynamic Duo" in terms of Māori—of course there's Jonesy too but he's you know. But we've got the "Dynamic Duo" in terms of Labour at the moment leading us and doing the business and as you can see someone who's sort of under the radar gave a fantastic opening in terms of this bill today. And as she pointed out this legislation will ensure that Customs is in step with modern business practices. Hon Member: Yay!Hon Member: Well done!Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Yes we all knew that didn't we? It will support the movement of legitimate travellers and goods while providing the legal tools to protect New Zealand balancing the protection of the nation with individual rights you know—something you don't have in the National Party because you all follow Bill English and Gerry Brownlee and Simon Bridges who's—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): Excuse me member. Excuse me. Can I just remind the member not to bring the Speaker into the debate thank you.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Apologies Madam Assistant Speaker. Apologies Madam Assistant Speaker but you know—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): And if we could narrow it down to the scope of the bill that would be helpful. Thank you.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Narrow it down? OK. Kei te pai. Kia ū ki te kaupapa kai te mōhio māua ki tērā eh Shane? So a kia ū ki te kaupapa āe.[Remain fixed on the matter we know about that eh Shane? So remain fixed on the matter yes indeed.]Hon Member: It's all custom.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: That's right. That's right. So this bill will maintain and clarify the existing excise regime and be better able to respond to a changing global environment and changes in business and broader management practices. You didn't know that did you Mr Brownlee? As the Minister said earlier the bill will enable better information-sharing between Customs and other Government agencies—the net effect being a more consistent and seamless approach that is more time and cost efficient which is what it's all about for us.Hon Member: Bring back JT.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Oh don't bring JT into this. Information-sharing agreements—Hon Member: Come on.Hon Member: Four minutes to go.Hon Member: Don't stop now.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Oh give us a go hey over there. Jeez. I haven't been back here for a while. Information-sharing agreements made at the ministerial or chief executive level will—Hon Member: You can't read it.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Well you've got to read it you know. You can't do everything off the cuff you know. Information-sharing agreements made at the ministerial or chief executive level will specify protections for personal and commercially sensitive information.The bill makes it easier for traders to do business and to interact with Customs through simple transparent and futureproof requirements for traders which will help make New Zealand's border management system amongst the most efficient and most cost-effective in the world. And that's fantastic: Labour thinking laterally and broadly. Hon Member: What a great bill!Hon Member: It's National's bill. Sorry Willie. It's National's bill.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: You have to concentrate on the other side. I know it's hard being in Opposition—depressed and going nowhere and you're going to be there for another nine years.If necessary importers will be able to declare provisional values and seek binding valuation rulings. A lower cost and less formal administrative review process will allow disputes to be resolved without recourse to a tribunal or court. What also characterises this bill is the involvement of business through the development and drafting in Customs which will continue to engage with business in developing regulations custom rules and staff guidelines.What? I mean see I've got you there Mr Brownlee. I got you there.Hon Gerry Brownlee: It's our bill.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: No no. It's our bill now. No we have embellished it. We have given it some edge. This is a real bill. This is a people's bill now. Before—[Interruption] No no! Before it had a taint. It had a dirty—no I shouldn't say that. It had a Tory—no I can't say that word either can I? But it had a taint.Hon Scott Simpson: Is this is good as it gets?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: No hang on. It never had the working class Māori edge right? You don't have that because we don't see any Māori anywhere apart from Simon Bridges who masquerades as one every now and then but you know we—poor Simon. Jeez that was a terrible performance today wasn't it? Goodness me! You know I tell you what here's some advice for you: ask another question Mr Brownlee. You've asked 6000. Ask another one. That is a recipe for the National Party today. But I just want to say to you: what a wonderful performance from our Minister over here.Alastair Scott: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I'm not sure why the member is advising the Speaker on how to do this or that.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): Thank you. I have reminded the member several times about bringing me into the debate.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Apologies apologies there. I didn't realise that it upset—OK I apologise absolutely. I didn't realise it upset the member so much so ngā mihi aroha ki a koe e hoa. Can I just say though the Minister's done a terrific job here and this bill has gone—people are excited by this bill. Who would've thought that they would be excited by this bill? Labour has added to it. Nobody knew about this before. That's because you're all so boring you know? That's a fact. You've got no excitement about you. There's no X factor.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): Excuse me—[Interruption] The member will resume his seat. This is about the fifth time I have reminded you about bringing the Speaker into the debate.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Apologies. It's been a long time you know since I've been here—15 years—I'm just trying to get through a few things you know?The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): The word you should not to use is "you".Hon WILLIE JACKSON: You—I mucked that up last time I was here too. But I want to say again it's wonderful being part of this strong Māori caucus you know. Jonesy's a challenge but you know—Hon Member: Tikanga—tikanga. Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Yeah tikanga—see he's a challenge but he's going well. He's just got to get that language right. You know it's that Ngāpuhi flair of his. I don't know what it is. It gets him into trouble sometimes.But anyway I just want to say again to the Minister—what a wonderful bill which confirms the majority of customs' existing powers while recognising privacy concerns and it will balance the extent of customs' powers to examine and access electronic devices with an individual right to privacy. Well you know you didn't even think about that did you across there? You didn't even think about it. No no I'm not talking about you Madam Assistant Speaker—I've just got to get the phrasing right.But I want to say today that I've enjoyed this bill and enjoyed contributing and again ngā mihi ki a koe ki Te Minita. And Madam Assistant Speaker thank you very much. Tēnā koutou katoa. Kia ora."