Prime Willow-JeanHon WILLOW-JEAN PRIME: Thank you Mr Chair. Thank you for this opportunity to take a call and talk to different parts of the schedule that we have in front of us tonight. So I do want to say that is going to happen. But the Minister said that he had met with our whaea Moe Milne and that he's going to heed the advice of her committee on what to do with the name Te Aka Whai Ora. But I want to know: is he going to heed the advice that she has for him through her evidence in the Waitangi Tribunal? She said This Government has been totally disloyal by disproving and denying Māori any sense of ownership and influence over Māori health". She said "The hurt. The first sense that I had when I heard the announcement was real hurt. I wanted to sit down and cry when I heard that. How dare this Government negate us? How dare they withdraw and unwind aspirations in the hope that we revert? We are not going to revert." and she said at clause 7 paragraph 7 "Our disappointment is that some of this is being directed by people who have whakapapa to Te Tai Tokerau to our home. It is a violation and a betrayal".The clause that I want to ask about in particular is the interpretation—CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): Yes you will be back more specifically on the—Hon WILLOW-JEAN PRIME: I'm on it—I'm on it. I was just responding to the Minister saying that he had met with Moe Milne around the name Te Aka Whai Ora—CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): From here on let's just stick to the bill.Hon WILLOW-JEAN PRIME: Happy to Mr Chair. I have got that now on the Hansard. What I want to talk to is clause 32 which is interpretation and commencement date—it means the date on which the amendment Act comes into force. I want to talk to it specifically in this schedule not in its own clause in the schedule because that's what the interpretation of this is. What I find absolutely unbelievable is that the commencement for this—well (1) I don't like what's happening but (2) the commencement for it is not until 30 June. So why why Minister are we hearing—why are we dealing with this piece of legislation under urgency today and now going into tomorrow morning. Miles Anderson: That's not a new question.Hon WILLOW-JEAN PRIME: It is a new question. Listen up! Who is not listening?CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): We're actually not on to the commencement.Hon WILLOW-JEAN PRIME: No we're in the interpretation and the interpretation in the Schedule—I've read it out and it's clause 32. So here for the ones at the back that don't know is new Part 2 inserted into Schedule 1. Part 2 "Provisions relating to Provisions relating to Pae Ora (Disestablishment of Māori Health Authority) Amendment Act 2024." Hon Member: What's your question to the Minister?Hon WILLOW-JEAN PRIME: You know he thinks I'm not in the right clause. Clause 32 "Interpretation" "In this Part—'amendment Act' "—what does that mean—and "commencement date". That means the date on which the amendment Act comes into force. Now what is that date? That date is 30 June 2024. So why? Why are we having this legislation introduced this evening passed—likely—tomorrow morning when it's not even going to come into effect until 30 June? I know why. It's because there's a Waitangi Tribunal inquiry where all of the Minister's relations are coming to present their evidence in opposition to the disestablishment of Te Aka Whai Ora. Why is there no select committee process? There is time but no we're going to pass it all under urgency by tomorrow morning but it's not actually going to come into effect until 30 June. So that would have allowed us ample time to have a select committee process because apparently you only allow like one day for submissions. The Minister has decided to rush this through under urgency with no consultation. Your own departmental disclosure statement says "no consultation". You had an opportunity to have a select committee process—no thank you! You know there is a Waitangi Tribunal inquiry about to take place on Thursday but no: "I can introduce this legislation today and we can curtail the mana in the authority of the tribunal to be able to inquire into that evidence."I can see I've got 10 seconds on the clock and I'm not finished on this point. So the tribunal would have been if was allowed to have its hearings scheduled for the—[Time expired]"