Ghahraman GolrizGOLRIZ GHAHRAMAN (Green): Thank you Madam Speaker. This is as has already been said a very practical bill and it seeks to address a very discrete issue which is to provide a national standardised electronic way of monitoring second-hand dealers and second-hand goods being sold and bought which I believe police have sought. As has already been said as well Counties Manukau police are already electronising their approach to this; we just don't have the dealers doing it in the same way and certainly not in a standardised way. Most pawnbrokers and dealers including those that operate online like on TradeMe do so currently by way of keeping handwritten records which are really difficult to access and certainly not something that in real time would alert authorities to the receipt of lost or stolen goods that are on another record being sought by their rightful owners. So this would in principle and in practice make that process more practically applicable and more accessible and more efficient.For those reasons the Green Party will support the bill. We do have certain concerns around the enforcement mechanisms and the enforcement being such a high fine. So we will be looking closely at what happens at the committee stage and how the practical implementation processes come into place and we will be raising concerns about the way that ordinarily in our system of justice things like fines operate to persecute or prejudice certain communities. We will be looking at the way that those fines are both going to be regulated made effective and also the level of fines which are quite high and so would in practice undermine the ability of certain small-business owners to operate. We again know that in terms of being targeted for both compliance with regulations and in terms of criminalisation often it will be the lower socioeconomic Māori and Pacific communities that things get applied and we will be looking at whether or not we can work to ensure that the practical intention of this bill which is to electronically monitor the sale of goods that may be lost or stolen and the practical impact at the other end are not disproportionate.I do note that it will be applicable to things like TradeMe and I think we're a bit late in actually regulating online spaces when it comes to the sale and purchase of goods in terms of the ethics. Something of an issue that's been brought up to us as the Green Party has been for example the way that animals that are traded on TradeMe are treated and animal welfare issues. But there's a plethora of other issues in terms of both ethics and trading the way that our tax system is applied and the way that traders are regulated or monitored in those spaces that we haven't really engaged with as lawmakers. So this is one of the steps that will bring us closer to acknowledging that online spaces are like real spaces and require us to apply a values-based system and also that actually electronic records are something that we are going to move towards in order to know these things and to regulate for the greater good. So this is another step towards that.Given that the bill is of such a discrete purpose and effect I won't say much more on it but we will be watching it closely in terms of its enforcement mechanism. But at this point we see this as being a small change that's practical and has the potential to work well so we do commend it to the House.