O'Connor Greg; Watts SimonWATER SERVICES ENTITIES BILLIn CommitteePart 2 Water services entities (continued)CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): Members the committee is resumed on the Water Services Entities Bill. When we suspended earlier today we were considering Part 2. Once again the question is that Part 2 stand part. I just will indicate before I give a call that the presiding officers do communicate between sessions and that we do keep a very close eye on what is happening to ensure the continuity.SIMON WATTS (National—North Shore): Thank you very much Mr Chair. It's good to be back after lunch to get more into this bill because I think we would all acknowledge there's plenty of content here and I do acknowledge the other members around the Chamber who have contributed from both sides of the House to questions as we go through.My questions are in regards to Part 2 specifically on clauses that we haven't touched on to date—clauses 42 and 54. While the clauses in those regards are both part of different subparts and relate to different groups under the governance model I think it is appropriate there is some correlation between the points. This is around co-chairpersons and co - deputy chairpersons. The questions that I have in regards to this point are—look we've traversed the conversation around co-governance and the challenges and that around the make-up of the groups but the point around the introduction of the concepts of co-chairpersons and co - deputy chairpersons I think raises a number of questions in terms of the ability to try and simplify the governance of these groups or actually does that actually introduce more complexity. So the questions I have for the Minister in regards to that are: what was the rationale in regards to putting in place through legislation specifically around those roles—how does the Minister see those roles in terms of co - deputy chair and co-chair actually working in practice? And does the Minister believe that that model is going to enable these governance groups—which I think we would all agree are new and are going to be finding their feet in regards to undertaking this role; is the addition of that co-element going to help or hinder the effectiveness of those governance groups? Because the reality is that these entities are going to be managing significant assets. I refer to Schedule 2 of Part 2 which refers in four parts to all of the different council territorial authorities that will form part of these groups. I think in regards to that that would be helpful.The second question I've got is in regards to the points around clauses 56 to 59 specifically around clause 57 which is in regards to—this is Subpart 6 of Part 2 Boards of water services entities" again an area that we haven't traversed to date this morning. Shanan Halbert: It sounds the same as your last speech. SIMON WATTS: My question in regards to the—sorry I didn't hear that question from the member on the other side from Northcote but I'm happy to answer. Maybe you could take a call and let the Minister answer the question. But I do acknowledge that members on the other side do have a number of questions about this bill which is probably quite reasonable.But let's get back to that. Clause 57—there's a lot of enthusiasm on questions all around the Chamber on this—is around the membership of that board and in particular the overview in terms of the skill sets and aspects that have been determined there. I think it was raised potentially in an earlier contribution not in relation to this clause but of another around the mechanism in which it has gone through to determine that that is going to fulfil and suffice the requirements that will be required for overall governance of this—because again this is a new concept. It is a concept in which these individuals—and up to 10 individuals if I'm right—will have significant influence and control over the success of these entities. And it's success actually that is outlined in clauses 10 11 12 and 13 of Part 2—obviously in relation to the objectives functions and operating principles. I'm keen to understand a little bit of the rationale around that and also in regards to the interrelationship between that board entity and the regional representative group which again there is some detail in clause 59 but I think some clarity around how that actual overall governance model is going to work would be much appreciated."