Willis Scott; Leary Ingrid; Reti ShaneSCOTT WILLIS (Green): Thank you Mr Chair. Firstly I'd like to invite the Minister back down to the deep South to hear in person about the infrastructure needs we have because my question really is about infrastructure. It is really to ask: will the Minister honour National's promise to a fully-funded Dunedin Hospital and deliver all the beds operating theatres and radiology services that Labour removed" as the Minister has said to provide the hospital and health services we so need in the deep South?INGRID LEARY (Labour—Taieri): Thank you. I'd like to add my voice to that and say to the Minister although I dispute some of the assumptions from the member when is the Minister going to appear in Dunedin? We're very much looking forward to him understanding the Dunedin Hospital project so that it is delivered in a timely way. I know that some of us have been inviting him publicly calling for him to come down. I do point out that the previous Minister under the Labour Government was down there in day two of the job so I am really urging the Minister to let us know so that we can have a welcome party for him.My second question if I may is around performance reporting. We heard from the Auditor-General that Te Whatu Ora doesn't really have a cohesive narrative or story to tell. Now I think that has been because we have never had a real baseline of data; it has been just lumps of data and bits and pieces of data—people measuring different things all over Aotearoa New Zealand. It is very difficult to tell a story.That has changed with the introduction of the health status report which was delivered hot off the press to our committee. It makes for really stark reading because it shows very clearly some of the health trends. I do know for example the graph that stood out to me sitting in the select committee was around diabetes in Counties Manukau and the huge graphs on that the huge bars compared to the rest of New Zealand which is a really simple visual way of understanding where targeting needs to go.When I compare what is available through the outcomes targeting that this now avails through that health status report and I compare that to the rather nonsensical targets that were issued by the Minister actually—I think there's about five of them including waiting times in hospital emergency departments which he's just referred to; things that can be easily gamed that are not time bound that are not very measurable or comparable. Will the Minister now use this rich data the health status report? Certainly his officials seem to be very keen to use it as a baseline. Will he create some meaningful outcomes so that there is a clear narrative and so that people in different population groups and in different geographies around Aotearoa New Zealand will know what kind of health services are being delivered compared to their fellow New Zealanders?Hon Dr SHANE RETI (Minister of Health): Thank you Mr Chair. I'll cover a couple of questions. To my colleague regarding regional performance indicators—for Māori indicators it's been put to me that yes we ought to recollect and report that. With a view to Dunedin Hospital over the period in review I believe the most substantial thing that happened around about December 2022 as I recall was a reduction in scope I want to say by about $200 million including removal of I think it was the CT scanner but it could be the MRI scanner. That was the most substantive thing over this period in review regarding Dunedin Hospital.Third one of the questions from the chair of the select committee was around immunisations. It's been passed to me that the 24-month coverage dropped from 89.6 to 82.4 percent or thereabouts for eligible children during the period. It sits with those other indicators that we mentioned. I can't really accept the member's claim around the health targets I've put forward considering that nearly all of them albeit I've tightened up one of them were health indicators in her Government's hands as well so that's not really going to wash. That's not tenable.Yes the health status report—I think this is an excellent report. I keep it as a baseline and a repository of information. It's still relatively new but I think if we wanted to look at how we compare across a range of things are we having impact or not I think this is kind of the newest and best dictionary and baseline to start with. So it's certainly something that I'll be looking to put initiatives against to see if we can make a difference and sort of triage which initiatives might have the most impact where in all of this do we look to make a difference. But I agree; I think this is an excellent report."