Luxton CameronCAMERON LUXTON (ACT): Thank you Mr Speaker. Well it is a happy day is it not? After so many years of certain members of the driving community having a free ride on the roads we're finally sorting it out and it perfectly aligns with the ACT principles of user-pays.Now we all understand the history. There was an intention a good intention in 2016 to incentivise people to get into the electric vehicle and plug-in electric vehicle market. But that market has developed. We have electric hybrid vehicles we have plug-in we have electric vehicles. But you know there has been a lot of well are we allowed to use the word misinformation" in the community? I've heard a few people tell me they want to sell their hybrid petrol vehicle because they fear the road-user charge. Well I can give those people assurance that we will not be charging a road-user charge while they are still paying a fuel excise duty because that's just not fair. We believe in user pays not user-pays twice.What we're saying is that in this interim period while we are working through—and this Government is working through—a road pricing regime which brings in electric vehicle road-user charges and other methods to fund our roads so that we can have the infrastructure that we need in a modern liberal democracy with property owning to be able to get to work so you can work where you choose for whomever you choose and in industries that you enjoy. Because the roads are so important and the efficiency of the roads the maintenance of these roads they only come from one place and it's other Kiwis paying their fair share.SPEAKER: Sorry don't mean to interrupt. The member leaving the House—can we just remove the scarf from the back of the chair? Other parties have had to do that it can't be left there like that. Sorry to interrupt you it won't affect your time.CAMERON LUXTON: Appreciate it Mr Speaker; no fair call we do need to keep the decorum in this House and I appreciate you doing so.So we heard "living with the consequences" and how this is going to impact on climate change. Well this road-user charge regime is not in any way designed to address incentivising people into which and which car not to choose. It is merely there to pay for the renewal and maintenance and improvements of our roads. We have an emissions trading scheme (ETS) which deals with a user-pays mechanism to deal with carbon emissions and pricing carbon to make sure that people who are actually emitting carbon pay for that not people who we do or don't want to be seeing on the roads.Tradies and farmers have been very disappointed in being singled out I would say in a lot of ways and over many years. You know people who go and build and farm and create stuff with no choice. And myself I have been both a farmer and a tradie and I tell you what: I'd keep an eye on these new catalogues that would come out with all these great choices of vans and utes and I'd be waiting for one with an electric vehicle component to it. Well they are still coming and when they do I'm sure my fellow tradies and farmers will take the greatest advantage of those opportunities. But until that is in place they have been left out to pay for the rest of the country. We have a road-user charge coming in on all vehicles. It's going to be made in a way in the future by this Government that will allow all vehicles to no longer have to deal with the fuel excise duty and have one method of payment and I'm looking forward to that day. I commend this bill to the House.SPEAKER: I call on Andy Foster.Andy Foster: Mr Speaker thank you.SPEAKER: Sorry just a moment. In the scheme of things it's Te Pāti Māori. Is there another—[Member signals the Speaker] Well in that case stand up and take the call.Scott Willis: Oh are we—sorry.SPEAKER: Good. Apologies. I call Scott Willis.Andy Foster: Usually we're number five.SPEAKER: Well your name is not Scott Willis.Andy Foster: Well usually we're number five.SPEAKER: Oh yeah I've got it completely wrong. It's unbelievable isn't it? Even I'm shocked. It must be Thursday afternoon. So stand by Scott Willis can we call Andy Foster."