Lee MelissaMELISSA LEE (National): Thank you Mr Chair—just trying to get my notes in order. Talking of Part 2 particularly of clause 23—I have actually spoken about this in Part 1 in the definition but in clause 23 it actually talks about the access point so if the Minister in the chair Kris Faafoi could possibly address the issue that I've raised in terms of the access point. For those people who are wondering what that actually means I guess the local fibre companies are rather worried that in terms of—you know when a local fibre company connects for example a community of 50 houses they are responsible for connecting fibre to those 50 houses and their concern is that if the definition of access point is actually included in the bill they are literally having to connect the cell towers which then possibly make it possible for instead of the local fibre company another competitor to connect those 50 houses wirelessly for example. That is their concern and if that means that they can only do it in a fixed cost and at a regulated price it would actually mean that instead of connecting 50 houses—and they could potentially have a business case and actually make a profit on that for example—they're literally only connecting one cell tower possibly a competitor in terms of providing internet connection to those 50 houses and it would mean that the competitor potentially could take over the business of those 50 houses. That is one concern that was raised to me and I've actually mentioned that in the definitions section of Part 1.In Part 2 one of the most I guess highly debated parts of this section is the issue of anchor services anchor product. I guess when—Mark Patterson: Butter.MELISSA LEE: Sorry?Mark Patterson: Butter—anchor" products. Butter. Sorry—don't worry. Carry on.MELISSA LEE: Oh sorry. I'm guessing you're a farmer and you wanted to actually—but you might need to speak up a little bit because maybe I'm like Mr Speaker—Hon Scott Simpson: New Zealand First word association games.MELISSA LEE: Perhaps—I didn't quite hear what he actually said. Sorry I digress. One of the things that was actually hotly debated was—CHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe): I'm sorry to interrupt the member but it's come time for me to leave the Chair for the dinner break.Sitting suspended from 6 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.MELISSA LEE: Before the dinner break I was talking about Part 2 clause 23 and I was hoping that the Minister of communications would be in the chair to actually explain some of the questions that were actually asked during the debate process but I will actually put it on record.So in terms of this Part 2 one of the concerns that we've actually had is: why did the Minister decide not to support the requests of the local fibre contractors (LFCs) to have the phrase "access point" deleted from proposed sections 197 and 199 contained within new Part 6 in clause 23—maybe that's not quite right. But I guess—and the wordings were actually changed in the Supplementary Order Paper that was actually tabled last week as well which actually adds the words "building or other access point". Do those subtle changes in fact change the definition in the bill? That is something I'd like to ask the Minister.And the other is: what is the added value to the bill by retaining the phrase "access point" in these sections? And also what are the justifications for the Government's policy that "point-to-point fibre services to access point cell towers which are provided to wireless competitors should be regulated or subject to the threat of regulation"? That particular quotation comes from a written question that I had in fact asked of the Minister and that was part of the reply that he had in fact given. His answer was "point-to-point fibre services to access point cell towers which are provided to wireless competitors should be regulated or subject to the threat of regulation". And does that actually raise any kind of concern to the Minister that in fact that is one of the reasons why the LFCs are rather concerned when they actually look at the definition in terms of the point that they make regarding the access point?"