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General Debate 
DAVID SHEARER (Leader of the Opposition) 
: 
 I move  
That the House take note of miscellaneous business 
. A couple of days ago the Government entered its 100th day in office since the election. It is a pretty shambolic and sorry sight that we are seeing after 100 days: a deficit of $12 billion—$12 billion—which is twice what the Prime Minister believes that the Government will get for our assets if it sells them; I mean that is if it gets anything like $6 billion. That is up to the finance Minister; that is just a best guess and not even a best guess actually—just a guess. So what we have is a $12 billion deficit—a $12 billion deficit—that this country is showing now which is an indication of where the economy is going. Income tax is down GST is down and company tax is 5 percent down. This is a shambolic start to the year. 
The only real offer on the table is to sell our way to this brighter future that we were promised at the election just 100 days ago. You sell your way to a brighter future and how do you do that when you flog off our most valuable farmland? That is a start; the Crafar farm deal is one way. And we know that there are at least 16000 hectares of land in front of the Overseas Investment Office today waiting for a decision—another 16000 hectares in addition to the Crafar farms. In fact thank you to Justice Miller who had the good sense to understand that actually you need to look at this land and understand whether it is in New Zealand’s best interests to sell this land and whether it brings real value to New Zealand. Justice Miller for telling us that actually Ministers do not have their hands tied. They do not have their hands tied when they come to look at these things but in fact they are able to make decisions based on New Zealand’s best interests. These Ministers—and Mr Williamson is here in the House right now—did not do that; he said that his hands were tied. 
But there is more. As I go around the country and I speak to people all over this country all of them say the same thing: why are we selling our land and why are we selling off our assets? That is what they all say. We will get in behind the citizens initiated referendum. We will get in behind that because that is exactly what New Zealanders want to see. They want to have an opportunity to oppose these asset sales. Why should they oppose them? Because they believe—most New Zealanders believe—we already own them. They ask me why we need to buy these assets again. And when you look at the popularity of the sale of these assets when you actually look at how many people really do support the sale you see it is only about a quarter of the people who support them; the rest oppose them. The rest are opposed to these asset sales and they oppose them because they are never going to get a look-in to buy them. That is the real reason. The only people who will are the quarter whom those people on the other side of the House here say they represent: the rich people who are going to be able to put up the money in order to buy those shares. 
The Government is going to sell these assets at the bottom of the market to people who can afford them and most New Zealanders are not able to buy those shares. We know that these people believe that many of these assets were guaranteed by the Prime Minister before the election and that mums and dads—mums and dads—would be at the front of the queue. That is what they were told when these sales came up. We know that none of that is true in the legislation. The legislation was put in front of this House and there is absolutely no guarantee. So we are just going to have to believe this Government that somehow mums and dads are going to be first in the queue. That is absolute nonsense. That is a broken promise and we know it. Not only that but we were promised that there was going to be a cap—a cap—on foreign ownership and we know that that is not going to be in the legislation either. We know that there is going to be no cap on foreign ownership in this legislation. 
Hon DAVID CARTER (Minister for Primary Industries) 
: 
 I am quite happy to compare the first 100 days of the National-led Government and its performance with the performance of that member as the Leader of the Opposition. Every question time you see the dejected looks coming over all of the faces of the Labour caucus as they know they have a problem. The only one who is happy is Grant Robertson. He cannot wait—he cannot wait—to see Mr Shearer take another question because it is only a matter of time. It is only a matter of time. Mr Robertson is knocking close on the door. 
But today I want to talk about the New Zealand primary sector and its contribution to the economy. What we see with the huge performance of the whole of the primary sector is that it makes a contribution of 72 percent of export earnings. I want to compare what National does with the primary sector with what those guys in Labour did. It was David Lange who called agriculture a sunset industry and the Labour Opposition still considers that agriculture is a sunset industry. It is the very saviour of the New Zealand economy. 
I want to take the opportunity to talk about what National has done for the primary sector. We have set up a focus on water and the development of irrigation: $35 million has gone to the Irrigation Acceleration Fund and we have made a further contribution of $400 million to make sure that the infrastructure gets built. We have put a focus on innovation. We now have over $500 million worth of investment in primary sector research through the Primary Growth Partnership. We have led the world with the Global Research Alliance on Agricultural Greenhouse Gases and we are recognised right throughout the world as making real attempts to find solutions to the global greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture. 
We have streamlined the Resource Management Act. Only yesterday in the House we were making sure we got the rental system right for the high country leases. We have invested around $450 million in rural infrastructure including broadband. We have doubled the infringement fine for people breaching biosecurity at the borders. We have brought through a TB strategy committing $30 million each year for the next 5 years. There is so much that we can talk about including the immediate response to the  
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 infestation of $25 million. Compare that with the way the Labour Government sat on its hands when the varroa bee mite first arrived. 
But there is plenty more that needs to be done. We have got to make sure we initiate an emissions trading scheme that does not saddle agriculture in an uncompetitive position. We have got to make sure we never see Labour coming to power and initiating a capital gains tax. We have got to make sure we never see a Labour Government coming into power fiddling with the Reserve Bank of New Zealand Act and driving up interest rates because the confidence of New Zealand farmers has never been higher and one of the reasons for that today is the fiscal responsibility of this National-led Government. We deliver the lowest interest rates we have seen for the last 40 years. 
So out there in rural New Zealand there is a level of confidence. That confidence is delivering right throughout the New Zealand economy and the rural hinterland of this country knows the value of a sympathetic Government that understands its concerns. The last thing it ever wants to see is the election of a Labour-Greens Government because that will mean that irrigation will not get developed. The Greens even talked about putting a tax on water. It will certainly mean that with the expenditure on any proposals Labour makes interest rates would increase and increase markedly. This country relies on agriculture. It is the absolute backbone of the economy and that has stood New Zealand in great stead over the last 4 years. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 Meanwhile primary industries in this country lose billions of dollars every year from a massively inflated dollar which my colleague David Carter who has just resumed his seat maintains for National’s mates in the finance industry in downtown Queen Street. But this is a story of how an Australian bank some Ned Kellys across the Ditch and some local business people robbed a small New Zealand town of its livelihood. It is about how a gang of corporate thugs screwed dozens of people out of their jobs. It is about how the Westpac bank involved itself in shafting an iconic New Zealand company namely Yarrows (The Bakery) in Manaia Taranaki—heartland New Zealand which my colleague did not refer to. We are talking about the receivership of Yarrows in May last year. 
The circumstances in which the company went into receivership were unusual. At the time Yarrows had a valuation of $100 million. The sole shareholder Paul Yarrow had just secured a new international joint venture worth $200 million over 10 years. So what happened? A group of individuals set out to take control of this joint venture and force Mr Yarrow out. It was nothing short of corporate assassination. First the Australian conspirators deliberately overcharged Yarrows in rent to the sum of A$2 million in false leases. These were then charged to the Australian company operation of Yarrows. They then demanded a payment of A$7 million from Mr Yarrow and the price if he did not agree to their demands was receivership. Here are some of the names of the New Zealand and Australian individuals involved: Warren Duncan Trevor Perry Colin Pettigrew and Michael Finnigan—all connected to Yarrows—Brian Mayo-Smith from the receivers BDO; and Nick Hale from Westpac bank. 
These people conspired to bring down Yarrows from within. Where is the evidence? Well some of that will emerge in a court case starting in the New South Wales Supreme Court tomorrow and some will come from a tape-recording of businessmen conspiring to cheat an owner. The House is well very aware of what happens when a tape-recorder keeps running and no one notices it. This is not an English dog’s breakfast tape; this is a “bread-gate” tape. The tape-recording reveals the depth of this plot and what these people conspired to do. For example we have Michael Finnigan former trusted adviser to Paul Yarrow saying: “Let’s threaten receivership.” Then we have Trevor Perry who describes himself as “an angel investor” saying to the Westpac representative Nick Hale: “I never thought I’d be happy to see a demand put on a company by a bank.” All on tape. 
I have just one question for Mr Hale and Westpac and it is this: why? The reason is they wanted control of the planned joint-venture bakery operations with the Japanese company Sumitomo and mostly they wanted Paul Yarrow out so that they could transfer assets from his family company in Manaia to pay for their shares at the discount price in Australia. When Paul Yarrow would not agree they threatened to ruin him and so it transpired. Westpac followed through on the directors’ threat and called in the receivers. Prior to this conspiracy Westpac was on the verge of getting 90 percent of its money within weeks. 
What are the connections between company directors Warren Duncan Trevor Perry and Colin Pettigrew and Westpac officers John Chapman and Nick Hale and Brian Mayo-Smith of BDO? We understand that the Serious Fraud Office in New Zealand is about to step in and tomorrow in the New South Wales Supreme Court in Sydney these New Zealand and Australian directors will be involved in a legal war over the ownership of the company in which the Australian Securities and Investments Commission is involved. 
The case shows what happens when unscrupulous overseas-owned banks and corporate high-flyers get their hands on New Zealand companies. But this a rural company in Manaia in Taranaki a massive subscriber to that community including the local rugby team. Think of all of the benefits it has poured in—millions of dollars over the years. It has provided employment to all those local people in Manaia over the years. A young person there always knew that they would have a job locally. It is an international best-selling company providing its product all over Asia and throughout the Pacific. It also provides the core product for Subway in its contracts here and around other parts of the world. But here is another bit: when it all happened the Westpac bank and these businessmen had no regard for what was being done to local people. And the Government does nothing about this sort of behaviour. 
JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki) 
: 
 Meanwhile back in the 21st century I also want to talk about the importance of agriculture to the New Zealand economy. You know a previous Labour Prime Minister once famously declared with great conviction that agriculture was a sunset industry. 
Hon Members 
: Who said that? 
JACQUI DEAN 
: That was former Prime Minister David Lange. I acknowledge that that might have been a few years ago but that attitude in the Labour Party prevails today. Last night in the House Labour list MP Raymond Huo described high country farmers as “the privileged few”. You know they are saying again that Labour hates farmers. Well they could not be more wrong. For the year ended 30 September 2011 the primary sector accounted for 71 percent of our export earnings or $32 billion. So simply put the primary sector has been and continues to be the backbone of the New Zealand economy. The ongoing success of the primary sector is a key part of our plan to build a stronger economy create more real jobs and raise incomes. National is proud to champion farmers and is proud to champion growers. 
 National believes that economic development can go hand in hand with environmental sustainability. Just for a moment have a look at the $35 million Irrigation Acceleration Fund and the $400 million proposed equity investment in 2013-14. Irrigation development creates jobs particularly for young people and is also a fantastic career development in our rural towns of New Zealand. So let us just have a look at the Opuha dam project in South Canterbury and you can see the enormous benefit not just to the local economy but also to water quality downstream from the dam. Irrigators are required to up their game with regard to nutrient outflows and are responding to the call to improve water quality. You know— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I would ask the member please not to read a speech during this general debate. She is perfectly welcome to keep going but please refer to notes and do not read a pre-written speech to us. 
JACQUI DEAN 
: Thank you Mr Speaker. You know I absolutely back regional councils’ approach and their commitment to improving water quality. Farmers understand very well their responsibilities in terms of the need to protect their environment and to farm sustainably. I will be reading a bit because I will be quoting but I do hope you will bear with me. High country farmers are currently under the spotlight with the Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill being debated in the House. The Greens display their usual eco-arrogance in asserting that only they understand—and I am quoting now—“environmentally sustainable outcomes” completely misunderstanding that high country farmers have a multigenerational commitment to improving rabbit-infested  
Hieracium 
-infested wilding pine - infested high country to the point where over the past 100 or so years their international reputation as producers of the finest product and the finest wool including merino wool is second to none. The Icebreaker company sources the finest merino wool from stations throughout the South Island—and I am about to quote another figure—but cannot get enough to meet demand. Unlike Labour we want Icebreaker to succeed—indeed we want it to be wildly successful. If I may quote Icebreaker revenue “is expected to top NZ$160 million” for this fiscal year. It says its aim is to double that within the next 3 years. 
I want and this Government wants small companies like Icebreaker to be wildly wildly successful. When David Parker was the Minister for Land Information he did everything he could to retire the high country from production including ratcheting up the rents to place the farmers into tenure review. Luckily there was a change of Government and we now have returned to a Government that supports agriculture. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Before I call the next member I am serious about asking members please not to read general debate speeches unless it is a highly technical matter and that was not. There is nothing wrong with quoting and reading out quotes. The only saving grace I can say is that at least it was handwritten so at least I guess it was written by the member and not by someone else. 
Hon MARYAN STREET (Labour) 
: 
 Unfortunately that meticulously read speech from the member who has just resumed her seat Jacqui Dean is not sufficient to gain favour amongst the farming community with the National Party any more. The farming community is so out of sorts with the National Party because of the Crafar farm sales. 
Jacqui Dean 
: No a long time. 
Hon MARYAN STREET 
: Well if that party over there does not know about it then it should do some research of its own because it is blindingly obvious to the rest of us. 
Yesterday the Controller and Auditor-General released the results of the 2010-11 audits of district health boards and that is what I want to turn my attention to today. One of the points that the Auditor-General made in her report was that in 2010-11 $417.3 million of new money was given to the district health boards—$417.3 million—and that was up on the 2009-10 year. The fact that in 2011-12 as the Minister of Health said in the House last week the district health boards got $350 million worth of new money—$350 million as opposed to the $417 million the year before—indicates this Government’s trajectory in the health sector. That is a trajectory that presumes cuts and what we are seeing now are the inevitable results of a pushing down of the funding that goes to the district health boards. As the district health boards get screwed down tighter and tighter with their budgetary constraints they are going to be cutting into front-line and clinical services. The more the Minister protests about that the more one can see that it is apparent that that is going to be the upshot of the Budget. 
If we have a look it is clear from figures that have been released already and also what is widely known out in the district health board sector that the total new money for the health budget coming up in the Budget to be released in May is somewhere between $320 million and $350 million. That is total new money in the Health vote—total new money. In the Auditor-General’s report she makes it very clear that 75 percent of Vote Health goes to the district health boards—75 percent. So if we are generous even and say that perhaps the new money that is coming out of the Budget this year in Vote Health is going to be $350 million then 75 percent of that is $262.5 million. So we had $417 million in the 2010-11 year $350 million of new money to district health boards in the 2011-12 year and now they are staring down the barrel of $262 million in the 2012-13 year. 
This progressive slashing of the health budget is eating into clinical positions. If we have a look at some of the district health boards that have reported recently that they are having difficulties we know that Waikato District Health Board is looking to save $25 million in the next financial year—$25 million—and it knows that it is going to come out of front-line clinical services. One of the things that the Minister is requiring of the district health boards next year is that they absorb KiwiSaver. Instead of that being taken out of the Crown account as it has been until this coming financial year the district health boards are going to have to absorb that. In the case of Waikato District Health Board alone that is a $3.2 million impost. Add on to that minimal salary increases as we have just seen the New Zealand Nurses Organisation sign up to and what we are seeing is serious cuts that are bound to happen in clinical positions. This is the theme of this Government in health: cuts cuts and more cuts. 
CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National) 
: 
 Let us stay with primary products that essential growth feature of our economy. We have heard what Labour has to say about agriculture and this hurts when I know that a person such as the Speaker dedicates himself to increasing the production from the country’s rural sector in a selfless— 
Hon Maurice Williamson 
: Tireless. 
CHRIS AUCHINVOLE 
: —tireless effort to make sure things go well. Primary products are 71 percent of our exports $3.6 billion up from the previous year. 
National supports farmers; farmers are supported by National. As an ex-farmer myself—and I have milked my share of cows—and as someone who dedicated many years working in harmony with the Speaker in the New Zealand Dairy Board to increase New Zealand’s exports wherever we could I am deeply concerned that Labour is abandoning farmers. 
As we have already heard David Lange said it was a twilight industry. He could not have been “wronger”. But Labour continues to consider that it knows best. Its caucus is almost devoid of farming experience—almost devoid. It only has one person qualified to speak on farming and he was my little gift back to the Labour Party at the last election. We gave him back because we thought it had no rural voice at all. Twenty-one percent was all you achieved from the rural vote; 21 percent. Does that not tell you that you have a problem? But no Labour still considers it knows best. It considers that farmers are not paying enough tax. It considers that farmers should be paying more GST and is this not a sound we know so well from Labour: “Gimme your money gimme your money.”? It just wants to take it. 
Farmers are fighting for New Zealand’s future; they can do without an enemy within and that is what they have on that side of the House the health of the economy versus Labour political point-scoring. Surely I would appeal to the Leader of the Opposition Mr Shearer to take a bipartisan approach and to realise what is best for the country rather than a little political point-scoring. Will Labour do that? I doubt it because it considers that it knows best whereas National’s policies are: just as it wants to put money out we want to put money in. We are investing in the primary sector and we believe in its importance. We know that the primary sector can only be good for our economy and we are committed to policies that will achieve that and David Cunliffe knows that. He knows our Rural Broadband Initiative will be of great use to our rural areas. He knows that we are investing in the Primary Growth Partnership which is now over $5 billion. We are investing in cleaning up our rural lakes our rivers our waterways and our aquifers and we are tackling greenhouse gas emissions through further investment in the Global Research Alliance on Agricultural Greenhouse Gases which you have heard of from other speakers. 
But let us just touch on something that is dear to most New Zealanders’ hearts: foreign ownership. I believe that in his speech Mr Shearer referred to it. Let us give some figures. This is quoting so if I may I will read it lest I have committed it incorrectly to my memory. In 9 years of Labour— 
Hon Maurice Williamson 
: Long years. 
CHRIS AUCHINVOLE 
: —9 long years of Labour how many hectares were sold to foreigners? 
Hon Maurice Williamson 
: Tell us. 
CHRIS AUCHINVOLE 
: No I really do not want to tell you but I shall I shall I shall: 660000 hectares were sold to foreigners over the 9 years of Labour—660000 hectares. After 3 years of National it was a mere 100000 under exceptional circumstances and if that is carried on during 9 years of our time it will still be only half what Labour had in its 9-year period. 
Hon Maurice Williamson 
: So how can they say it is wrong when they did that? 
CHRIS AUCHINVOLE 
: Well Labour members do say it is wrong because again they know best. Just as Labour knew when it was examining the employment relations system for immigrants to pick fruit when it decided that it would determine when the fruit was ready. Fruit does not work like that. Talking of fruit I would just like to illustrate the point: small apples picked from a tree in my own garden we call this “the Labour tree”; large apples picked from a tree in my own garden in Moana we call this “the National tree”. 
CHRIS HIPKINS (Labour—Rimutaka) 
: 
 I think the previous speaker Chris Auchinvole is out of his tree if that is the very best that he could come up with. It is always a privilege to follow the former member of Parliament from the West Coast. 
This is a Government that has already given up a Government that 3 years in has already given up and its plan is simply to cut our way to the brighter future that John Key promised us. We know that if National cannot cut it it is going to sell it and if it cannot sell it it is going to contract it out. This is a Government that is not all about delivering a brighter future for New Zealand; it is a Government that has given up and now it is simply content to manage New Zealand’s decline. It has given up trying to give New Zealanders the brighter future that John Key said he was all about. Now it is simply all about decline. 
Let us go back and remember what John Key promised New Zealanders before the last election. 
Hon Member 
: What was that? 
CHRIS HIPKINS 
: Oh there is so much material. I have got only 5 minutes but there is so much material. He said: “I need to be able to look New Zealanders in the eye and assure them that the money they pay in tax is being spent wisely and as much benefit as possible is going to front-line services from which they will directly benefit.” How has that manifested itself in the last few weeks? Well the Government has spent money on giving staff at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade who are going to lose their jobs advice about getting themselves pets that offer unconditional love taking yoga classes and meditating. This is what it is spending money on. They are not front-line services by anybody’s definition but that is what this Government seems to think it should be spending the public’s money on. John Key seems to think he can look New Zealanders in the eye and justify that. 
He said National would be going ahead with its programme of tax cuts because these tax cuts would not be at the expense of public services. Well have we seen any evidence of that? No we have not. Two and a half thousand people are out of jobs already and there are more to come—and more to come. 
Many New Zealanders will ask themselves what is wrong with Public Service reform. Well I quote John Key on that one as well. He said that structural change and significant reorganisations tend to create more problems than they solve. It was John Key who said that. The Prime Minister John Key said that. He is not saying that any more. He said there will be no wholesale reorganisation across the public sector and yet what have we seen? Massive reorganisation. 
The thing that I want to talk about the most is the hoax that John Key and his party played on the New Zealand public when they said: “We will be putting more into the front line. We will be moving resources from the back office to the front line.” Let us quote from John Key again here: “We are not in any way going to reduce the number of front-line staff. Let me make this absolutely clear—under National the numbers of doctors nurses teachers social workers police and other front-line staff will grow.” Well what have we seen? In recent weeks we have seen district health boards saying they are going to have to lay staff off because they have not got enough money. The police have been told they have to save $360 million over the next 3 years. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade is having to save $40 million a year in spending putting 305 people out of their jobs. We have got health boards up and down the country talking about cutting medical professionals’ jobs because of this Government’s underfunding of the Public Service. We have got the Government talking about increasing class sizes and having fewer teachers in front of kids because of this Government’s unwillingness to fund it. 
This is not a Government focused on the front line; it is cutting into front-line service. It is removing health board services. I know from my own electorate that literally hundreds if not thousands of older people have found that the front-line staff who deliver their home help have had their hours cut. Older New Zealanders have had their home help cut. Home help is one of the best examples of a front-line service that has been cut under this Government. There is no better example by the very definition of the words “front line” than our Defence Force—our Defence Force. The very nature the very definition of the words “front line” comes from the Defence Force and the Defence Force is being cut under this National Government despite its promise that it would not cut front-line public services. It was a hollow promise that it made New Zealanders before the 2008 general election—one of many. It was one of the many things that National said to New Zealanders in order to get itself elected and now it has given up. It has given up on delivering a brighter future. It has given up on fulfilling its promises. Now it is content to manage our economic decline. 
NIKKI KAYE (National—Auckland Central) 
: 
 I am delighted to be able to speak in this general debate today. I have been waiting to give this speech for a very long time. As the MP for Auckland Central I want to dedicate this speech to the people of New Zealand who work on farms and in forests and those who support the primary industries. As the MP for Auckland Central I have been the subject before of slight jabs from my colleagues in terms of my support for the rural industries. In fact one person said to me today: “You do know Nikki that for a good latte you need milk.” I wanted this to be the discussion in my speech today. 
The fact is that this side of the House has an economic plan that is focused on unrelenting support for our primary industries. We acknowledge that our export-led recovery has been driven by the rural workers of New Zealand. We know that a large chunk of our economic performance is because of the primary industries. Seventy-one percent of our economic performance comes from our exports from primary industries; $32 billion is what it is worth to our economy. 
Where are our exports up? They are up in meat areas and they are up in dairy areas. In fact I will give you the figures here. We were up 12 percent in 2010 in meat exports and dairy exports were up 20 percent. So it is absolutely unbelievable that at a time when New Zealanders are struggling and our country is laden with debt we have an Opposition that is promoting policies that are harmful to this area. 
Let us talk about some of those policies that it has promoted. It has promoted additional costs in terms of the emissions trading scheme. It has promoted additional— 
Mike Sabin 
: Capital gains. 
NIKKI KAYE 
: It has promoted capital gains tax in terms of land. Compare this with our party which has been unrelenting in its support whether it is through science and innovation in terms of the $50 million that we are putting in to key research in climate change or whether it is through all the initiatives that we are trying in order to ensure that young New Zealanders have more opportunities in our primary industries. 
We heard today about the Youth Guarantee places that we are offering. We also know for instance that the Hon Paula Bennett has been working really hard in the area of Auckland to ensure that some of our young people have greater placements in terms of jobs. What we are focused on is ensuring that there are real career options for young New Zealanders in our primary industries. 
When we look at some of the job figures—I think in TradeMe today there are jobs in our primary industries. But unfortunately we are having to get new immigrants to go there because we need to make sure that some of our young people are work-ready. All of this Government’s programmes instead of the rhetoric from the opposite side focus on real pathways to work for those young people to have jobs in our primary industries because we recognise that although we may hear a whole lot of clutter from the Opposition about how we need to diversify our economy the fact is that a major area of our export growth comes from the primary industries. 
I am proud that as the MP for Auckland Central yes I represent an urban electorate but I have also got some rural areas like Great Barrier Island and I am proud to stand here today and give my support for all of those rural workers around the country who have worked so hard for the last 3 years to ensure that we have an export-led recovery. We have got more to do—we have got so much more to do. If you look at some of our achievements whether it is through the $35 million that we have put into the Irrigation Acceleration Fund whether it is through primary sector innovation and the $70 million that we have put into the Primary Growth Partnership or whether it is through the $45 million that we have put into the Global Research Alliance on Agricultural Greenhouse Gases we understand that the way that we are going to improve the lives of so many New Zealanders is to lift our standard of living and have an economic plan. 
You contrast that with the Opposition. Every time Opposition members speak they just talk about what they will not do. They are anti-everything. You contrast that with our party which has good policies in welfare good policies in ensuring young people get into jobs and good policies in investing in science and innovation particularly in areas that are in the primary industry like food innovation because we know our opportunities lie in countries like Asia and we know that if we can increase our exports and we can support— 
Hon David Cunliffe 
: Countries like Asia? Asia’s not a country. 
NIKKI KAYE 
: Countries like China and Singapore that are within Asia. We know that we can improve our standard of living if we can support those rural workers in our primary industries. 
This side of the House has a plan; that side of the House is anti-everything. This side of the House has the support of New Zealanders because we are focused on a strong economic plan. 
JULIE ANNE GENTER (Green) 
: 
 Tena koe Mr Speaker. Tena koutou e te Whare. Today I would like to talk about the importance of transport to New Zealand’s economy and particularly the importance of cost-effective evidence-based transport investment.  
Right now we have an opportunity to solve our transport problems in a way that is going to cost us less money. It is going to help us. It is an opportunity to address the housing affordability crisis in Auckland. It is an opportunity to improve our health and our well-being. It is an opportunity to enable households and businesses to have more money to spend in the domestic economy. I know that this sounds too good to be true—that we can be increasing the choices for all New Zealanders and how they get around by spending less money and changing our current paradigm around transport planning—but it is true. 
 I am sure many members of this House take it for granted that the traffic engineers at the New Zealand Transport Agency or the policy advisers at the Ministry of Transport know what they are talking about when they come to us with their forecasts for traffic growth. But the reality is that the world is changing and a lot of the assumptions that have been used in these traffic modelling and business case scenarios are flawed and we have the opportunity to do things differently. 
I think ordinary New Zealanders are largely aware of this. Widening roads and increasing motorway capacity on the fringe of the city does not address our congestion problems. It does not save people money in the long term because when you make it cheaper and easier to drive at peak hour more people will choose to drive at peak hour. This will make it harder for people to walk to cycle and to take public transport. It actually undermines our investment in buses and trains if we are expanding motorway capacity without fixing the market distortions that are underlying our current transportation system. 
So this traditional approach to traffic engineering has a number of very costly unintended consequences. I have already talked about some of them. It makes it harder for people to walk to cycle and to take public transport even though these are clearly more cost-effective ways for people to move around our towns and cities at peak hour. If members stop and think about it I am sure that will make sense to them. I mean think about it. Cars take up a whole lot of land. They take up a lot of room. They are not the most efficient way of moving large numbers of people around our areas. That does not mean they are bad. There is nothing evil or wrong with cars; it is just that they are not the most cost-effective way for people to move around our towns and cities at peak hour. 
Michael Woodhouse 
: What happened to personal choice? 
JULIE ANNE GENTER 
: Yes that is exactly it. I think the Green Party understands that we do need to increase people’s personal choices. 
The problem is—and I know members are not experts in transport engineering so they are not aware of these flawed assumptions in the traffic engineering models—but the reality is that the traditional traffic engineering approach has undermined people’s choices because it makes it seem cheaper and easier to drive at peak hour. So it is totally understandable that most New Zealanders drive to work because they do not have any other option. That is nobody’s fault. It does not need to be something ideological. We just need to look at why things have happened the way they have and come up with some evidence-based cost-effective solutions. I am sure that the National Party should support evidence-based cost-effective solutions that are going to be good for the economy. 
A concrete example of how motorways are not the most cost-effective way to deal with congestion is clear in the Northern Busway. So the busway right now is nowhere near capacity but it is currently carrying the equivalent of four lanes of traffic over the Waitemata Harbour at peak hour. How much would it cost to put an additional four lanes on the harbour bridge? How much do you think that would cost? It would cost a lot more than the Northern Busway costs. And how much would it cost to provide all that parking in and around central Auckland for the tens of thousands of vehicles if people were forced to drive into the city because we had not invested in the Northern Busway? 
So this demonstrates what an incredible opportunity we have to spend less money and move more people and give people more choices. The people who want to drive and the freight that needs to move at peak hour on trucks are actually going to pay less and they are going to find it easier to get where they need to go at peak hour if we just implement a smart green transport policy and I am very happy to work with the Government on this. Thank you. 
JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
: 
 Thank you for the opportunity to stand and speak today. It is great to hear my colleagues talk about the primary industries which are undergirding the export-led recovery that this nation is experiencing. In fact it is good to see that New Zealand is faring far better than many nations overseas because hard-working New Zealanders out there are taking our natural resources and with their innovation with their incredible skill and tenacity and with their hard work against all odds they are making New Zealand a world leader when it comes to primary industries. It is wonderful to see the increase that is happening. But can I also say that alongside this increase we are seeing innovation in how to manage our resources. 
I think of my own province of Taranaki where we have a world-leading riparian planting programme—certainly the best in this nation—which is protecting the streams and the waterways of our province which has 17000 kilometres of waterways all streaming down from Mount Taranaki to the ocean. The farmers without legislation but because of their commitment to the environment have planted every year around 300000 plants on the edges of waterways and have fenced those waterways in order to protect our environment and enhance it not only now but for future generations of farmers who will continue to make New Zealand such a successful place. I think the figure is that around 70 to 80 percent of those waterways have been planted out. Credit goes not only to the farmers but also to the Taranaki Regional Council which has led this tremendous work. 
Many of my colleagues have talked about the comments of Labour members over past years and their attitude towards our primary industries. I guess they would say they are for it they are for us and that they want to see all those areas increase succeed and prosper. We always go back to the comment they have made about the sunset industry of agriculture. Mr Speaker you more than anyone in this House would know how important that sector is to us. We know that back in 1961 the consumption of red meat in the world was at a certain level and it has tripled since then. The opportunities exist for industries in New Zealand not only in dairying and red meat but also in forestry and in food processing and production to continue to forge us ahead in great success. 
One of the members today mentioned a great Taranaki company. I want to say that I know that company. I know those people well. I know what they have contributed to our local economy and also to the whole community of Taranaki. That company is highly regarded in Taranaki. In fact as a young boy on the way out from Hawera where I grew up and lived I would go through Manaia. My brother and I on our way out to our parents’ farm in Pihama about to do some fencing would always stop by Yarrows and buy a dozen doughnuts—I know you can tell. We would buy a dozen doughnuts and we would eat them at morning tea time as we were labouring away in our school holidays fencing. 
Hon Maurice Williamson 
: Is that each? 
JONATHAN YOUNG 
: Was that each? Ha! My family—myself and my brothers—became great fans of that company. I went on to play basketball with the gentleman who was mentioned and he continues to be a good friend of my family. 
I have an interesting story. Noel Yarrow the person who is credited with forging the progress of that company went across to Europe on a trade mission and there met a couple in Belgium who after meeting him decided to come to New Zealand. They came to Taranaki particularly to meet him and they loved it so much they stayed. Last Friday night we were at the expansion of their company. They themselves are now producing incredible quality products—they are bakers—and they also export. They send their product to 54 companies in New Zealand and export to three different countries around the world—such is the great strength there is in Taranaki. 
Hon ANNETTE KING (Labour—Rongotai) 
: 
 I have been fascinated by the National Party putting up such a defence for agriculture today. We can only assume that the National Party is in trouble with farmers around the country. It all comes from their decision to sell off some of our prime farm land. The farmers are now in revolt. The best that National members could do in their defence of agriculture was to go back to the days of David Lange. I have to say why did you not go back to the days of Rob Muldoon? I am sure you would have found even more interesting things to dredge up for the Wednesday debate. Now we know where John Key stands when it comes to better public services—the things he said about public services before the election. It is public service by 0800 number call centres—0800 Government. That is what we have got for public services now. Of course those call centres are in New Zealand at the moment but Mumbai here we come. 
So perhaps John Key ought to take some time to learn what a public service is. You see “public” means relating to people and “service” means an act to help or assist. So the latest public service to join 0800 Government in this “aspirational” way that the National Party is putting forward policy is Housing New Zealand Corporation. It has 69000 people who are its clients and most of them are the most vulnerable people in our society. So I just hope the whole 69000 do not decide to call on the same day. But they have been told that they are now going to get a smarter faster fairer service by an 0800 number. Well it reminded me very much of Tony Ryall’s slogan. “Better sooner more convenient” was his health slogan in the last 3 years. Well of course we have got more people waiting for service we have got more district health boards in debt we have more district health boards not meeting their health targets and we have got more vulnerable people waiting or having their services cut including my colleague David Cunliffe’s own mother who has had her service cut. So this is a Government by slogan. 
Well I have got a better slogan for them for the Housing New Zealand Corporation policy. It is called “dopey dumb and dicey” because 69000 people have been told that all they have to do is just make one phone call on an 0800 number and they can get help straight away. Well does it work? Because when you measure public services you always want to measure if they are working. I heard the Minister of Finance say today that this is how they measure them what they are doing and how well they are working. Let us take a social worker from Glen Innes. She works with the most vulnerable in that area. She decided that she wanted to work on behalf of a client who came to see her. It took her nine phone calls and two personal visits in her car down to the Housing New Zealand Corporation office before she got to leave a message on an answerphone for a tenancy officer. Unfortunately she had to sit for 7 minutes on the phone line before she even got to leave the answerphone message. She is a qualified and experienced person who knows the system and she could not work the new 0800 system. It is not the old 0800 system. It is the new way to provide a smarter faster more convenient service! 
Seventy jobs are to go in Housing New Zealand Corporation and the offices are now to be closed to customers. They open by appointment only. It sounds like something very shady when you have to go in with a sort of bag over your head because you do not want to be seen. It can be opened only by appointment and that is if you are going to have a needs assessment. There was a wonderful cartoon in the paper yesterday where all the Housing New Zealand Corporation officers are hiding behind their desks saying: “No no. We’re not stopping them coming in. We just want them to use the 0800 number service.” There will be staff sitting in offices and people will not be able to go through the door. They can go only if they have made an appointment. 
Then we are told that this will be a very good service because now they will have a relationship with the corporation. I am trying to picture this relationship with the corporation. You know a corporation is a business. So how do you wrap your arms around that? How do you talk to a corporation when you are a tenant of Housing New Zealand Corporation and you want to talk about your housing needs? You normally talk to a person and that is what a relationship is. This is a dopey policy. It is not going to work. It is not faster smarter or fairer. It is going to be hopeless. 
JAMI-LEE ROSS (National—Botany) 
: 
 It is always good to go last in the general debate because you get to fix up some of the misstatements and the problems you hear from the other side. But I want to start with a theme that the Hon Annette King started during her speech. She wanted to talk about slogans. Well let me remind the Labour Party of some slogans. This is a slogan that applies perfectly to it: “You can’t teach an old dog new tricks”. We have apparently got a fresh face in the new Leader of the Opposition. We have apparently got some fresh policies coming along; we have not heard very much any more. They are actually so good that when David Shearer stood up the Hon David Cunliffe left the room and came back as soon as he had finished. That is how much confidence the Labour Party has in its new leader—its fresh approach supposedly. 
But actually we have seen nothing new from Labour. It is back to its old recipe of borrow and hope. It is back to its old recipe of spending up large like drunken sailors although I think that is a bit unfair to the drunken sailors out there. The Labour Party’s old recipe of closing the doors to the rest of the world is apparently going to be the solution to all of New Zealand’s woes. Well under the National Government New Zealanders have far fewer woes than they had in the 9 years under the Labour Government. 
I was getting a bit sick of hearing about Crafar farms. Apparently according to the Labour Party selling assets and seeing farmland owned by foreigners is an appalling thing. Let me remind the House of a few statistics. In 9 years of the Labour Government 660000 hectares of land was sold to foreigners—660000 hectares in 9 years. In 3 years of National 100000 hectares of land was sold to foreigners. If anyone wants to do the maths those figures show that the members opposite allowed twice as much land to be sold to foreigners as this Government did in 3 years. So do not ever listen to the Labour Party saying that farmland being sold to foreigners is evil. I can see those members putting their heads down because they do not like those figures. Those members opposite sold twice as much land to foreigners as this Government did. 
Why does the Labour Party now hate foreigners? When Shania Twain was walking through the South Island with Helen Clark it was OK. When James Cameron was buying land in the Wairarapa we did not hear a squeak. But when Chinese people want to purchase some farmland and invest some money into this country those members scream. In my electorate of Botany a third of the population is Asian and the third of my electorate that is Asian wants to know from that side why it hates Asians. That is appalling. The figures just do not stack up for that side. 
This National Government has been talking this afternoon about the primary industries and we have done a lot in the primary industries. We have reduced taxes across the board and cut the company tax rate. That helps the primary industries. We are cleaning up New Zealand’s lakes aquifers and rivers investing $265 million. We have reduced accident compensation levies—we are reducing them for rural businesses—and we are rolling out the Rural Broadband Initiative. 
We in the National Government acknowledge the heartbeat of New Zealand. We acknowledge the backbone of New Zealand. We are cutting red tape for the rural sector. We have streamlined and simplified the Resource Management Act. 
Hon David Cunliffe 
: The member doesn’t even believe his own notes. 
JAMI-LEE ROSS 
: David Cunliffe wants to talk—the woolly mammoth over there. He could not even get his leader the right figures when he was in a debate with the Prime Minister. So I do not think the “Woolly Mammoth” over there should be speaking. 
Seventy-two percent of exports in this country come from primary industries and one of the things that those primary industries require is an efficient ports system. We have seen some announcements being made today in Auckland about the ports sector. I want to say that I thought it was quite appalling to see people on that side on the picket line opposing a more efficient ports system—opposing some changes that would make it easier for exporters to get their business through. The problem that we have at the port was not because of the port company; it was because of the appalling employment relations legislation that those members passed 12 years ago. Those workers are not redundant because of the port; they are redundant because of the union pushing them over the precipice. Long live the National Government. 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I was reluctant to interrupt the member’s most excellent speech but I have to record for  
Hansard 
 that it is inappropriate for the member to refer to the presence or absence of another member from the Chamber as you well know. The reason that I was momentarily absent was to deal with an urgent matter with his colleague the Hon Kate Wilkinson. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The member is quite correct. I missed that but members should not refer to the absence of a member from the Chamber. 
The debate having concluded the motion lapsed.