5. Question No. 5—Prime MinisterDAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT) to the Prime MinisterQuestion No. 5—Prime Minister5. DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT) to the Prime Minister: On what specific dates since November 2020 if any did the Cabinet Office communicate with the Prime Minister's office regarding Hon Michael Wood's shareholding in Auckland Airport and who in the Prime Minister's office if anyone was aware of the shareholding prior to last week?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Māori Crown Relations: Te Arawhiti) on behalf of the Prime Minister: On behalf of the Prime Minister I have answered the first part of the question in response to question No. 1. For the second part of the question no one currently in the Prime Minister's office was aware of this issue prior to last week.David Seymour: Point of order Mr Speaker. It was a question on notice. It requires more than simply being addressed. If the Minister answering on behalf of the Prime Minister is clearly aware because he's certain those people no longer work there then surely he should identify those people at least by title.SPEAKER: Yes I agree. As the member said it was on notice. We did hear some dates yesterday.Hon KELVIN DAVIS: And today and the positions.Hon Kieran McAnulty: Speaking to the point of order Mr Speaker.SPEAKER: Well I've ruled on it. I don't know if the member heard them—he might have said them. But if you've got them there—well I'll give the member an extra two questions and he can flesh them out a bit further.Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Point of order Mr Speaker. SPEAKER: A new point of order?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Yes. The dates were said in answer to Question No. 1. It's not for me to determine or for us to determine whether or not his hearing is good enough to hear it.SPEAKER: This is not a supplementary question. This the primary question. Do you want another opportunity to answer the primary question or are we going to add extra supplementaries?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: I'll repeat the answer to question No. 1 Mr Speaker: on behalf of the Prime Minister the Cabinet Office has not communicated with the Prime Minister or his current office prior to the last week. I'm advised that the previous Prime Minister was informed that the Hon Michael Wood was in the process of divesting shares in Auckland Airport and Contact Energy as part of the annual reviews of ministerial interests in November 2021 November 2022. She was also informed he had divested his shares in March 2021. However this was incorrect advice. In February 2022 the then chief of staff was informed by the Cabinet Office that they had provided advice to the Hon Michael Wood about divesting and that the Minister had advised he was in the process of divesting the shares. Point of order Mr Speaker. I think that Question No. 1 fully answered it and I referred—SPEAKER: Order! I will be the judge of relevance. Do you have a further supplementary?David Seymour: Thank you Mr Speaker; I do. How can New Zealanders trust this Government when for 2½ years Michael Wood knew the Cabinet Office knew the Prime Minister's office knew and it turns out the Prime Minister's chief of staff knew for part of the period but nothing was done about this blatant conflict of interest even when Michael Wood was making decisions that were relevant to his holding in Auckland International Airport?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Based on the advice that the Prime Minister of the time was given she would have assumed that the matter was in hand.David Seymour: Why shouldn't New Zealanders assume the reason Michael Wood is still a Minister is that the Prime Minister's office is donkey-deep and complicit in his wrongdoing so has no moral authority to sack him?SPEAKER: The Minister can decide for himself whether he wants to answer that question—I'm standing up because clearly the question is out of order and was always going to lead to disorder in the House but it's up to the Minister whether he wants to answer it or not—obviously not.David Seymour: Point of order Mr Speaker. I just wanted to clarify if you'd still gifted those two additional supps.SPEAKER: Yes absolutely.David Seymour: Is the Prime Minister aware that a company director so negligent in declaring their interests and carrying on for 2½ years would face severe penalties and if so why should New Zealanders in business follow one set of rules when his Minister is let to follow another?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: The Prime Minister has made it clear that he's disappointed in the lack of action from Michael Wood which is the reason he has been stood down from his transport portfolio.David Seymour: How are New Zealanders supposed to trust a Government when so much can go so wrong for so long and yet magically it's never really anybody's fault?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: I reject that because Michael Wood has said that he failed to do what he should have done.