Jones Dail: Care of Children Bill — In Committee Procedure 
Jones Dail: Care of Children Bill — In Committee Procedure 
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DAIL JONES (NZ First) 
: 
 I speak to Clauses 1 and 2 and on behalf of New Zealand First I wish to make it clear that there is no way that we can support this gender-bending legislation. Legislation that states that a father is a mother and a mother is a father is gender-bending and absolute claptrap. It is supported by the Labour Party which has no regard for natural biological family relationships. It is absolute common sense. A man can only be a father. A man cannot be a mother. A woman can only be a mother. She cannot be a father. Yet we have deemed in legislation that a woman can be the father of a child. I tried to move an amendment to clause 167 a little while ago to amend the Status of Children Act which is part of this legislation to make it clear that a woman could not be the father of a child in those circumstances. 
That amendment was put forward to the select committee by the Auckland District Law Society subcommittee on those matters. That is not a trendy lefty or a trendy righty organisation. It is a good bunch of lawyers trying to make a good contribution to our society free of charge. One must remember that the work done by the Law Society and all those lawyers who contribute to it is done for the benefit of the public. That subcommittee proposed an amendment to the Status of Children Act which states currently that a woman by operation of the Act deemed to be a parent of the child must be treated as far as practicable in the same manner as the father of a child. The Auckland District Law Society subcommittee said that that clause was worded clumsily and could be more appropriately and sensitively phrased. 
The Law Society is being extremely polite in using the word “sensitively”. It means that it is gender-bending absolute claptrap that shows that the Labour Party has no regard for the normal family relationship which is the backbone of our society in New Zealand. 
It is interesting in the United States that President Bush seems to have won the election to a large degree on the support of normal family relationships. New Zealand First would like to put a challenge forward. Let us have an election where we will see who stands for normal family relationships. We in this House are behind normal family relationships. 
Moana Mackey 
: Define “normal”. 
DAIL JONES 
: Moana Mackey asks what is normal. A female Labour Party member does not know what “normal” is so I will tell her what normal is. Normal is a man; normal is a woman. Transsexual and transgender is abnormal. That is common sense. Homosexuality is not normal; it is abnormal. A man is normal. A female is normal. The Labour Party with its female takeover of it has men who should not be called men. Labour Party men are not men. We know by this bill that Labour Party men are women. We know by this bill that Labour Party women are men. Members of the Labour Party do not know what is normal. They are horribly mixed up and that is what will happen to this country if the Labour Party anti-family claptrap continues by young members who have absolutely no idea no experience and who want to take over this country. That is unlike Craig McNair in New Zealand First who is solidly behind normal family relationships and exhibits that in his own life as well. 
This legislation does little to change current practice. It is an utter waste of the taxpayer’s money and time. There is more important legislation that we should be confronting in this House rather than this absolute nonsense that the Labour Party has spent tens of millions of dollars on to try to enforce the view that men are women and women are men. 
I have no objection to lesbians having custody of children. They can do a very very good job in the circumstances in which they find themselves. But there will be situations where lesbians will have the custody of children of natural parents and we saw that in the select committee. A lesbian mother came along she was doing a very good job but she had the custody of the children of a normal father in the earlier relationship of her lesbian partner. The world is getting terribly complicated these days. 
Darren Hughes 
: Catch up with it. 
DAIL JONES 
: The member wants to deride me. Darren Hughes does not support normal fathers and normal mothers. That is his choice. I support normal fathers and normal mothers. The people in Levin should know that Darren Hughes does not support the natural father or the natural mother. He can interject as much as he likes. I remind the people of Levin that that is what he stands for.