Shaw JamesHon JAMES SHAW (Minister for Climate Change): I'd just like to start by saying that the member has actually got quite a good handle on it given the complexity of it and the time that she's had available. There are a number of questions in there. I can give a partial answer on the locations of forestry jobs. I've got them for forestry but I don't have them for the red meat sector so it's not easy to compare. The 35000 people employed in the forestry and wood-processing sector: there's 7500 in tree planting harvesting and forest management; 2500 in log transport and at ports; and 25000 in wood-processing. So those wood-processing facilities obviously are located in rural towns around New Zealand. I've got 66400 people working in the red meat sector and obviously some of those would be on farm in the same way that you know some of the forestry sectors are out on the land but also a lot of them would be in processing also in rural communities and small towns. But I don't have the distribution within that 66000 so I'm sorry about that.In answer to your second question you had questions around the time lines for mandatory reporting at farm level. There are a few things I'd like to say about that. First of all that time frame was actually worked out with the agricultural sector itself. The member may remember that in about September of last year we entered into an accord with the agricultural sector called He Waka Eke Noa which is a process which is essentially a partnership between the Government and the large sector representative bodies to develop a farm level measurement management and pricing system for farm level emissions of biogenic methane in particular. So those time frames actually came as a result of that conversation. The sector has said Look it's challenging but it's doable." And the feedback that we've had from them is they're really keen to show New Zealand that they can do it because they are aware that they are the only sector that isn't in the emissions trading scheme at the moment—and of course quite keen not to be part of the emissions trading scheme. The emissions trading scheme is really most effectively designed for industrial sectors and the whole idea behind the He Waka Eke Noa work stream is that it will develop essentially a parallel system but one that is much more suited for the agricultural sector. So we're comfortable with that because we launched that with the sector itself.The other thing that I'd like to say about that is that we're not starting from scratch. So for example Fonterra are already doing farm plans for virtually all of their farms. Synlait are doing it for all of theirs. Horticulture New Zealand are doing it with all of their planters around the country. In fact the previous Government had a significant investment programme stretching back 10 years for agricultural greenhouse gas research which tens of millions of dollars has gone into and which has started to yield some results.So I'm pretty confident that with the investment that's historically gone in both from the public sector and also from the private sector over the course of the last decade and the commitment that the sector itself has made to those time lines they are doable."