Webb Duncan; Rurawhe AdrianHon Dr DUNCAN WEBB (Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs): Kia ora Mr Speaker. Well look when we think about it we've got a big decision coming up this year and people are going to be out there shopping for policies and I want to think about where they're going to shop. Because on this side of the House—think of us like a supermarket—we've got Labour Mart" we've got a good supermarket. The car park might not be full but that's because a lot of people would've walked there would've caught the bus would've caught the train.Then you've got another supermarket. It's called the "National/ACT Mart"—the "NACT Mart" the "Nick-knack Mart" because they nick off the poor to give it to the rich. You know what that supermarket looks like? The car park's crammed—crammed full of flash cars—but you know what? There's no access ramp to get into it. If you go to Labour Mart you get some good policies good policies which are addressing the meaty issues. We put a "steak" in the ground on what matters. But what do you get if you go to NACT Mart? They're off their trolley. Their policies are a basket case. They're whipped into a frenzy like Mr Bayly was but you know they've got no answers.You go to the fruit and vegetable section and "lettuce" tell you what you see there. You see politicians who turn up turn up to do the mahi to attack the big problems. Go to the delicatessen at NACT Mart what do you get? Cuts. Lots of fine delicatessen cuts: tax cuts service cuts cuts to nurses cuts to teachers. You get a problem. You get an economy that would be in a tailspin as they give tax cuts to the rich in an inflationary manner and yet here we are in a situation where we are today when we've got to address the cost of living. Over in NACT Mart you've got some real problems. You've got a "cereal" failure in the breakfast aisle I'll tell you that. Their policies frankly are dog tucker.So look what we need to do is address the big issues that we've got. In just a "Jif" you know Mr Bayly over there needs to think about what he's saying about business confidence because he's not "Handy Andy" when it comes to how business confidence really works. A Government needs to work on the economy as a whole and the spending that we're doing in things like infrastructure the huge amount we've put into rail—and I know we put a huge amount in disaster response into the Hawke's Bay and you'll hear about that soon because we can't hang people out to dry. That's not what this Government is about.So use your noodle. Think about what we're going to do here. We've really got to get into—while you're scrambling around we're going to crack the big issues with some "egg-cellent" policies—you'll be hearing those tomorrow—and we'll keep doing the hard work here today.So when you think about it in terms of supermarkets we've got no beef with their profits but a competitive market is a rare thing well done. So that's why we're addressing those supermarket issues and in my portfolio I'm very very proud to do that because what matters to New Zealanders is what happens at the checkout and what have we got from them? Nothing. What we would see is falling wages. Every time we have put the minimum wage up—I'm very proud of our policy on minimum wage and living wage. What would we hear from them? Suppressed wages. What would suppressing wages do? It would flatten the economy. So it's all very nice to say give tax cuts to your mates in service cuts to the public sector but all that would happen would be a problem in the economy where the wealthy have lots to spend and there are people on the streets.We are putting funding into housing police schools nursing mental health. We're addressing those big long-term issues. We've made more progress on climate change than the National Government did in nine years. What did they do in nine years? Nothing. What policies do they have now? None.The only policies the National Party's got are the ones David Seymour gives them. Yeah so think about that. I'm yet to hear a National Party policy. David Seymour at least is upfront about his crazy policies. Good on him—I give him credit for that. He wants to deregulate everything but at least he's honest and has the decency to stand up and tell us what his policies are whereas the National Party is going to be told by their new Minister of Finance David Seymour—should they ever get into Government—what to do. And what are the chances of that? Very very slim. October 14—SPEAKER: Order! The member's time has expired."