10. Health Ministry—Audit New Zealand Report into Deloitte EngagementDr SHANE RETI (National—Whangarei) to the Minister of HealthHealth Ministry—Audit New Zealand Report into Deloitte Engagement10. Dr SHANE RETI (National—Whangarei) to the Minister of Health: Does he stand by all his statements and actions around the National Oracle Solution and the Audit New Zealand report on Deloitte's appointment as reviewers?Hon Dr DAVID CLARK (Minister of Health): Yes in the context they were made and taken. In particular I stand by my statement that it was the ministry that commissioned the Deloitte report—using the same all-of-Government processes used by the previous Government—and not me that commissioned the report as Dr Reti continues to incorrectly assert in the media. Dr Shane Reti: Will he then take any responsibility for the Audit New Zealand report showing that Deloitte's conflict of interest was not fully considered was poorly managed and that there was significant failure in the engagement process?Hon Dr DAVID CLARK: The Ministry of Health invited Audit New Zealand to review their processes and they have received a number of recommendations and I'm pleased to see that they are implementing them.Dr Shane Reti: Is he aware of evidence that the ministry did not pursue Deloitte's conflict of interest after Deloitte warned them that they did not want their conflicts made public?Hon Dr DAVID CLARK: I have seen evidence in the Audit New Zealand report that the conflicts of interests—perceived real or otherwise—were declared in accordance with the all-of-Government processes set in place by the previous Government and also commentary from Audit New Zealand that they could have been more thoroughly examined consequently and that they recommend putting processes in place that make the contracting process in future better than the one that was operating under the previous Government.Dr Shane Reti: How does he respond to allegations that he and his team tried to bury the report when the Auditor General's office this Monday said that if Clark didn't release the report by noon that day they would release it which they proceeded to do at 1.28 p.m.?Hon Dr DAVID CLARK: Far from burying any reports on the previous National Government's failures in respect of the National Oracle Solution I in fact issued a press statement welcoming the release.Dr Shane Reti: How will he explain to taxpayers the spending of $150000 on a report which through his incompetence is no longer credible?SPEAKER: Order! No.Hon Grant Robertson: Supplementary question?SPEAKER: No well I'm just going to indicate to the member that there's a degree of judgment in that question—a degree of assertion which goes beyond what's allowed in a question.Hon Grant Robertson: What does the Minister consider worse: issues relating to an Audit New Zealand report on a review of a programme or the programme itself blowing out to a $90 million cost for which New Zealanders get virtually no benefit?Hon Dr DAVID CLARK: That is actually the relevant question here. I think it is shameful that people are prosecuting a small report which found grievous failures between 2012 and 2017 when $90 million of taxpayer money was wasted with very little to show for it. That side of the House needs to look themselves in the mirror on this one.