Upston LouiseHon LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupō): Thank you Mr Chair. I want to take this opportunity just to explain for those who are watching or listening the importance of a regulatory impact statement as the Minister has quite flippantly in my view disregarded the importance of the regulatory impact statement. To have embarked on a significant part of the debate where the significant changes—67 pages of a Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) tabled in the House that won't have public scrutiny and I accept the Minister's view that she's worked with a number of stakeholders in the sector. That is not removing the opportunity of the public as I've had multiple people who are engaged in the sector who weren't part of the Social Work Alliance that the Minister refers to. They haven't had the chance to say they didn't necessarily disagree with the changes in the SOP that the Minister was proposing from a policy perspective but they did not believe the drafting was going to deliver the Minister's intent. So I do put on record again the attempts to be constructive in this exercise in bringing the voices of those who haven't been given the opportunity in select committee—that is a real kind of overreach to do that.I want to just talk about the importance of the regulatory impact statement to making good law given that the right one wasn't on the table which is a critical part of this House's activity. Yep it might have been on the Ministry of Social Development's (MSD's) website. That's fantastic but this is the House this is the Table whose documents this House discuss and debate and scrutinise and what ends up in legislation is based on the debates in this House.So the regulatory impact statement is an analysis that's done by Treasury. Treasury would have done the original analysis and I do want to because the Minister has made comments about it just refer to the time line of this legislation. It was introduced in August 2017 which is why the regulatory impact statement was back in May 2017. The call for submissions was an OK time frame before Christmas. Submissions closed at the end of January but then the report back was a short report back in April. Although there were a number of concerns both in terms of workability which is what the regulatory impact statement refers to it doesn't disagree with—or in some cases it does disagree with—the policy direction but it also refers to workability risks and impacts and in many cases also the financial impact. So although there were some pretty crunchy issues still outstanding in the select committee processes that members on this side of the House wanted to explore fully the request for an extension to the report back to this House was declined. That's why we're in this situation.So in that situation when members of the select committee have concerns and changes aren't proposed by the department in the departmental report—they've gone past that process and then ended up with a large SOP that MSD has drafted based on a range of advice—it actually behoves this House to give it proper scrutiny. Part of that scrutiny is the revised regulatory impact statement which we now know was July 2018. I had asked why that wasn't supplied. But I want to just reflect why it's important. So it establishes the conceptual nature of the problem while acknowledging the limitations of empirical evidence. Evidence is one of the considerations of the Social Services and Community Committee and they had the ability to deal with a lot of the issues but not some of the really crunchy ones—like the scopes of practice and that hasn't been explored here fully. So for example of the alliance that the Minister has been involved with I'd like to know—in terms of Part 2—how many of the individual members of the alliance raised issues about changes to the criminal records clean slate amendment bill? The Minister's been very happy to talk about changes that were then incorporated into the Supplementary Order Paper. I'm specifically interested then in Part 2 and those changes because the regulatory impact statement's function—[Time expired]