White HelenHELEN WHITE (Labour) (remote): Thank you Madam Speaker. I'm going to do the unthinkable and agree with David Bennett because the technology that has evolved around saliva testing has really changed over time. What we now have is we have technology that means you don't have to be so invasive with people and that's reliable about something that's actually really helpful which is recent use of a drug. So the problem with some of the testing in this area and particularly urine testing is that you don't actually know from the test whether the person is impaired and you don't actually know if they've recently used it.We had quite a few submissions from people who were worried about their historic use of marijuana and they're worried about that because marijuana stays in the fat cells. When it does that you can't actually tell if the person's smoked a joint quite a while ago or they're actually impaired when they're driving. Now we have pretty good robust saliva tests and they'll show you that there has been recent use of a suite of drugs. That isn't made on a moral ground or a legal ground; it's made on the basis of its impairment. So it's like basically this is the rule people: don't take drugs and drive. They impair you. It puts drugs into the same situation that we have had alcohol for a while where that message actually needs to get out to the community.We did actually hear from some submitters who tried to persuade us it was fine that they were taking drugs and it was fine that they were driving because that's the sort of mixed message that is out there at the moment. This sends a really clear one: don't do it. Recent use of drugs anything that impairs you is not a good idea on our roads because we also heard submissions from really heartbroken people who had lost their friends and their relatives because of this particularly culturally inappropriate part of our world. We need to stop doing that and we need to change the culture and it needs to be not OK to drive if you are on alcohol and it needs to be not OK if you are drugged regardless of whether that drug is legal and it needs to be not OK to drive if you are fatigued because this can hurt people too. We just need to take more care.So what the panel has suggested is that this is a robust test and that test is for a suite of drugs. What will happen is that there will be a random roadside test and so you will be stopped randomly. Then you will be either taken on what's called a CIT which is a general impairment test where you do a number of things to try that or the traffic officer or the policeman will elect to put you into another stream to do a saliva test and that will be done twice to make sure it is actually a good result an accurate result. You will have an option for a blood test if you would prefer to do that. But if you do you could go down a criminal type of level because actually that will be proof of something that is itself a problem. So if you don't and you get two positive tests there will be an infringement notice.Importantly you'll have to hand over your keys and you'll be banned from driving for the next 12 hours so you won't be going home in that state. Then at that time you'll walk home and think about what you've done hopefully. If this happens twice you're—or three times—going to have an alcohol assessment and drug assessment. So you're going to have some assistance but you'll also be given a notice with your infringement notice suggesting you look at whether this is an issue in your life. So that's what this bill will do and I'm hoping that what it does is it changes our culture. So I hope it sends a message to people that this is not appropriate behaviour and that we have a real problem in New Zealand with road safety and a lot of people get hurt because we would prefer to be convenient rather than be conscientious about what we do on the roads.So this to me seems a really good balance. In addition to it there is a review. That was an accepted Supplementary Order Paper. That review will happen in a few years and it will actually be really helpful for the rest of the world because there's very little evidence about what goes on in this space so we'll be contributing there. That review will be a timely reminder that we all just need to look at this area and see whether we've actually had some progress in it. I suspect we will have. So thank you. I commend this bill to the House.