Bennett GlenGLEN BENNETT (Labour): Mr Chair thank you so much. As a member of the Environment Committee I felt it was important—I've been seeking the call for almost 2½ hours now and I guess it is important for myself and I know others in the Environment Committee here—for us too to I guess prosecute this because we didn't have the opportunity to do it in select committee. So it is good to be here and to be standing. I really appreciate contributions from the honourable Minister. And I've been reflecting actually and my question is actually related to your electorate honourable Minister because I know that for you there are some real challenges and there are some real challenges in terms of waste. And obviously you have some big industry and some big business. You obviously look at Tīwai Point which everyone knows but you also have some good opportunities there which is what I want to I guess prosecute today. Because you've got the SJ Timpany Landfill which obviously is making good on dealing with industrial waste and waste that needs to be rid of.But I want to understand because my colleague Camilla Belich and the Hon Kieran McAnulty have talked about the emergency management space but I need to take a different angle on this because I still haven't quite got it clear. And just to support I guess making sure again we get this right because as many on this side have said we need to make sure if this is going to pass that we actually have it right so that when the next emergency happens it is fit for purpose.Now I want to reflect because it happened several times back in March and April Tuatāpere which obviously—is that part of your electorate? I'm not sure—Hon Penny Simmonds: It is indeed.GLEN BENNETT: —but it's close by.Hon Penny Simmonds: No it is.GLEN BENNETT: It is in your electorate. And obviously there's been a huge issue there in terms of contamination with products that have been buried have been put away—things like explosives asbestos and hazardous materials there.Now in amended section 5 and the emergency having the same meaning as the Civil Defence Emergency Management Act the thing is that the Civil Defence Emergency Management Act talks about leakage or spilling of any dangerous gas or substance. Now the thing is this is an ongoing issue. And at Tuatāpere this is an ongoing challenge that they have. Is it an emergency or is it just an ongoing issue because of climate change and because of sea levels taking away from that? So I'm trying to understand in terms of where this is and where it fits in in section 5 but also of course in new section 38A. Because earlier when you spoke to us you mentioned that section 38A(2)(c)—you talked about referring completely to emergency waste. But obviously the waste at Tuatāpere is in my mind both emergency and is just ongoing issues that need to be dealt with in terms of remediation and how that works.The other one I want to acknowledge as we come around obviously is Bluecliffs in your electorate. And congratulations. You got some good money from the Government earlier in the year—$1.35 million towards the Bluecliffs landfill clean-up. And again the challenge is because we talk about pandemics and where that fits in we talk about climate change we've obviously spent a lot of time—and people might think it is repetitive but I think it's really crucial because why not spend another hour here why not spend another couple of hours here to get this tight to get this right because we don't want to be scrambling when the next earthquake when the next sea-level rise when the next storm comes through and it actually isn't fit for purpose. So yep the other side of the Chamber are moaning at us and saying we're just dragging it out but it's actually not on us it's on your bosses in terms of they should have thought through this in terms of making sure that they got it right before they brought it to the House or at least they took it to select committee.So coming back to the question it's around section 5 emergency has the same meaning as in section 4 of the Civil Defence Emergency Management Act 2002". Again a leakage or spillage emergency or the leakage or spillage which is just continuing as a regular part because obviously of past wrongs that were done and not remediata—remeni—remediating. I can't even say the word on that.So that is my question to the Minister. I appreciate you spending time to thoughtfully consider it. Congratulations on what you're doing in your electorate to clean up parts of your electorate and I look forward to your answer.Hon PENNY SIMMONDS (Minister for the Environment): There is a danger in quoting examples from the electorate that the Minister is in. Can I let the member know that the Tuatāpere and Bluecliffs entity is one and the same and that no explosives were in that site but it was indeed a vulnerable site—one of a number that received over $6.6 million of funding. That was the Southland site the South Canterbury one Nelson and Tai Rāwhiti. And I have indicated that dealing with these sites will be a priority for me. This legislation this bill enables those vulnerable and contaminated sites to be funded. And I have stated it as a priority that they will gain more funding. The local authorities also will benefit from being able to have their levies waived from undertaking these remediations. So the bill in fact supports enormously addressing these contaminated and vulnerable sites."