Logie JanJAN LOGIE (Green): Thank you Mr Speaker. I too am very pleased to rise on behalf of the Green Party to take a short but very enthusiastic call on the second reading of the Holidays (Bereavement Leave for Miscarriage) Amendment Bill (No 2) which is a member's bill brought forward from Ginny Andersen. I really want to acknowledge her for getting this drawn as others have but more actually for listening to people in her community and mostly women in her community who were telling her of a problem with our existing system. I think this is the best of Parliament when we are able to hear the concerns of people and come up with solutions and join together in a unanimous voice to make lives easier. I too want to acknowledge that the point of this legislation is to ensure easy access and extended access to bereavement leave for pregnant people and their partners who have experienced the unplanned end of a pregnancy. I do just want to note how many times in the community I've met with people that have spoken about points in their life where things went wrong or started going wrong and how striking it has been to me—how often that comes back to a point of grief that was unresolved. I think it has can have an incredibly profound impact on people and family. I think this piece of legislation is really important in terms of raising the profile of this as an issue of enabling people to speak about it and in acknowledging that taking time to deal with your grief can pay off in the long term and that we as a country support people to do that. I also would just like to acknowledge the Education and Workforce Committee. I wasn't fortunate enough to be on the select committee but I think they engaged with the bill really actively with the 100 percent of support from submitters and with practical changes that were recommended. They made a small number of changes—but significant—to improve the bill that were supported by the members: so making it clear that the pregnant person didn't need to know that they were pregnant to be able to access this leave and that proof was not required. This bill is about trying to avoid those conflict conversations in an employment context and just ensuring that people in the depths of their grief are able to focus on their grief not having a difficult conversation with their employer in proving the cause of their grief; and refining the definition of miscarriage—that is that it is an unplanned end of the pregnancy no matter how far along; and that there's a different time definition miscarriage pre - 20-weeks versus stillbirth after 20 weeks. This just smoothed that out. It expanded the definition of eligibility to include parents planning to adopt and those involved in surrogacy. It ensured that former spouses or partners of the pregnant person should be entitled to bereavement leave as well recognising a planned child and the huge investment that many people have in the future for themselves with that child. That's true for the person carrying the pregnancy as well as the partner or former partners—it is about the whole family. And this legislation is not to apply to abortion because the point of difficulty around people's mental health that can come up in relation to abortion—it's not actually in relation to abortion it's about having an unplanned unexpected pregnancy and not the ending of it. So we are very pleased to be supporting this. This is an important step in this country around supporting people to grieve and work together as a family to overcome tragedy.