McAnulty Kieran; Rurawhe AdrianKIERAN McANULTY (Labour—Wairarapa): Oh well I'll make them good Mr Speaker. If anybody wants to see how disjointed the National Party's response to the Budget has been rewind Parliament TV and watch the last 10 minutes. We've got two members sitting right next to each other. The first five minutes says we need to spend more; the next five minutes says we're spending too much. They are the Tweedledum and Tweedledee of politics in New Zealand and that I think just sums it up.What we have in this Budget is a Budget that delivers for Kiwis and plans for the future. Actually I think this Budget is a Budget that delivers for rural New Zealand because the money that is going into our health system will mean better services in rural areas and what do they say? No." This Budget will deliver more police in rural areas. What do they say? "No." That is how the National Party are trying to weave an argument for the New Zealand people. They're trying to say that we're spending too much but they won't tell us what they will cut because the last speaker from the National Party Simon Watts said that they have a plan. Well I haven't heard it. All I've heard is whinging. Whinging about what this Government is doing. Whinging about our investments for the future about our investments in climate change about our investments in education—delivering for rural New Zealand. They say they don't like it but they haven't come up with an alternative.I'll give the ACT Party credit: at least they've come up with an alternative. They're up front with the New Zealand people; they have said that they will scrap the winter energy payment. When Chris Luxon was asked about that what did he say? "I'm not going to say." The ACT Party have said they're going to scrap the first-home grant which we have increased in this Budget. When asked about whether the National Party will support that they say "We're not going to say." How can you take a party seriously when all they're doing is whinging about a Budget that is delivering for New Zealanders—Matt Doocey: What are you doing?KIERAN McANULTY: —but refuse to bring up an alternative of their own? And I'm pleased that Matt Doocey is piping up right now—the ultimate whinger. The ultimate whinger that is constantly sitting there complaining that not enough is being done with mental health but will not commit to doing more—it's just complaining for the sake of it.New Zealanders saw opposition for opposition's sake at the last election and they totally rejected it. As we get closer to the next election my pick is they will reject it again—because the National Party cannot keep this dance up for much longer. They cannot criticise spending while promising to spend more. They cannot promise tax cuts while not telling us what they're going to cut in order to pay for it. The New Zealand people are not dumb they will see right through that. They will also see that this Budget actually delivers.Take the cost of living assistance for example—the exact thing that the National Party said they would deliver. This Government does it in a way that is more targeted less inflationary and actually helps the people that need it. What do they say? "It's not good enough." What will they say that they'd do instead? "Oh we'll cut taxes to those earning $180000."—how is that targeted? And when faced with the question of what would those earning $180000 do with their tax cuts Chris Luxon says "Oh they'll probably save it." How on earth is that targeted? How is that supposed to be a cost of living assistance when those that don't need it are going to get it? New Zealanders will see through that nonsense. They've seen this Budget. They've seen that we're committed to the people of New Zealand and they'll see the National Party for what they are. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I call the Minister of Finance the Hon Grant Robertson—10 minutes in response."