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Tisch Lindsay: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Tisch Lindsay: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I call the Hon David—David Cunliffe.
Vote: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 3 be agreed to. 
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Clause 3 agreed to.
Vote: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Clause 2 agreed to.
Parker David: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Parker David: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
: 
 I just want to reiterate why it is that we will not be supporting Brendan Horan’s proposed amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 175 to clause 2 which changes the open-ended nature of clause 2(2). The main provisions the substantive provisions of this bill the International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill are contained in clauses 5 and 6 which refer to amendments to the existing schedule 1 of the International Finance Agreements Act and that schedule sets out New Zealand’s current obligations vis-à-vis the IMF. This bill changes those provisions in the way that is set out in schedule 1 to this amendment bill and schedule 2 to this amendment bill. Schedule 1 of this amendment bill gives effect to the 2008 reforms to the IMF which were agreed then but which have yet to be implemented in New Zealand law even though we have agreed to them at the international forum. The date on which the 2008 reforms can and should come into effect is when this legislation is given effect through receiving the Royal assent and that is what the effect is of clause 2(1). It says that the Act will come into force on the day on which it receives the Royal assent except to the extent provided in subclause (2) and that subclause (2) then takes out of that general proposition the provisions in clause 6 so that clause 6 does not come into effect on the date when the legislation receives the Royal assent but rather comes into effect on such later date as is given effect by Order in Council. 
For the Labour Party that is appropriate in the circumstances because the clause 6 provisions are the 2010 reforms and we are not ready to have them brought into effect yet and so it is appropriate that Parliament authorises them being brought into effect at a later date. This is slightly different from the concern that we have about future changes to these provisions in the governing Act which set out New Zealand’s obligations to the IMF. We think they should not be able to be changed by statutory regulation. We are happy that the current changes which are agreed through this legislation through a proper process do not come into effect in part until the Government passes an Order in Council pursuant to clause 2(2). Therefore we will be supporting this clause. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 175 in the name of Brendan Horan to clause 2 be agreed to. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 1 be agreed to. 
Ayes 105 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 16 
Green Party 14; Mana 1; Independent: Horan. 
Clause 1 agreed to.
Vote: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan. 
Motion agreed to.
Hayes John: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Hayes John: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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JOHN HAYES (National—Wairarapa) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Smith Nick: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Smith Nick: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Hon Dr NICK SMITH (Minister of Conservation) 
 on behalf of the Minister of Justice: I move  
That the Committee divide the bill into the Privacy Amendment Bill the Tax Administration Amendment Bill and the Births Deaths Marriages and Relationships Registration Amendment Bill  
pursuant to Supplementary Order Paper 173 
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Horan Brendan: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Horan Brendan: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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BRENDAN HORAN (Independent) 
: 
 We might pull a little bit of that amendment in but only a little. 
I rise to speak to the International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill and I may just mention a little bit about Supplementary Order Paper 175 standing in my name. As this bill has been written by the Government the commencement date is entirely open. The bill would come into force on a date set by an Order in Council. That sounds good enough but will it still be relevant in 10 or 20 years? This is not a hypothetical problem. The Parliamentary Counsel Office annually publishes— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Order! The member has started straight on to clause 2 and this debate is for more general comments. So I suggest he does that or takes another call at the— 
BRENDAN HORAN 
: I will take another call later. Thank you.
Roy Eric: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Roy Eric: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Just before the member speaks I note that the member has an amendment to clause 2. We are in debate on clause 1 which permits a slightly wider scope than just the title—some more general comments. The member of course is entitled to a call. I am trying to assist him. If you want to make some substantial comments about your Supplementary Order Paper debate on clause 2 is the place to make them. I call Brendan Horan. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Take two calls. Take one now and one later. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Yes you are quite entitled to take— 
Brendan Horan 
: I will take the clause 2 call Mr Chairperson. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Sorry? 
Brendan Horan 
: I will take the clause 2 call. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Away you go. You can take a call now if you wish. 
Brendan Horan 
: No I will take the call later. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I was not trying to close the member down; I was just trying to assist. 
Brendan Horan 
: Well Mr Chair I will take the call. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Brendan Horan I have given you the call.
Roy Eric: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Roy Eric: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I would just point out that there are no parts. This will be a clause by clause debate and the debate will be held specifically to the clause.
Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
Bill to be reported with amendment presently.
Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 1 be agreed to. 
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Clause 1 agreed to.
Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the schedule be agreed to. 
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Schedule agreed to.
Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That new Part 3 be agreed to. 
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
New Part 3 agreed to.
Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Part 2 agreed to.
Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 1 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Simpson Scott: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Simpson Scott: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Robertson H V Ross: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Robertson H V Ross: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: The debate on Part 1 is on clauses 3 to 10 and the schedule.
Carter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Schools Canterbury—Interim Decisions on Proposed Closures and Mergers Afghanistan—Deployment of Military Personnel Beyond April 2013 
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Carter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Schools Canterbury—Interim Decisions on Proposed Closures and Mergers Afghanistan—Deployment of Military Personnel Beyond April 2013 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: I have received a letter from Chris Hipkins seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the Government’s decision on the closure and merger of schools in Christchurch Selwyn and Waimakariri. The Government’s announcement of interim decisions for schools affected by the Government’s education renewal plans is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. The test for whether a particular case requires the immediate attention of the House is a high one. The business of the House should not be set aside just because an announcement has been made even though it may be important. The purpose of an urgent debate is to hold the Government accountable for its decisions. Given that an urgent debate has already been held on this matter and final decisions are not expected to be made for some months I do not consider that it would be justified in setting aside the business of the House again today. The application is therefore declined. 
I have also received a letter from Iain Lees-Galloway seeking to debate the Government’s decision to commit to new deployments of New Zealand personnel to Afghanistan. The decision on New Zealand’s contribution to Afghanistan beyond the April withdrawal of the provincial reconstruction team is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. However the decision is part of an ongoing international deployment not scheduled to end until December 2014. The financial review debate provides an opportunity to debate such operational decisions. The application is therefore also declined.
Lole-Taylor Asenati: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Lole-Taylor Asenati: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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1. 
Le’aufa’amulia ASENATI LOLE-TAYLOR (NZ First) 
 to the  
Chairperson of the Government Administration Committee 
: How many submissions have been received on the Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill? 
Hon RUTH DYSON (Chairperson of the Government Administration Committee) 
: 
 The committee has received 18635 form submissions and 2898 unique submissions totalling 21533 submissions altogether. In addition to those six were returned because of inappropriate comment. 
Le’aufa’amulia Asenati Lole-Taylor 
: Has she received any reports regarding submissions from any of the 200 people denied the opportunity to make oral submissions? 
Hon RUTH DYSON 
: Yes.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Ask the question please.
Lole-Taylor Asenati: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Lole-Taylor Asenati: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Le’aufa’amulia ASENATI LOLE-TAYLOR (NZ First) 
: 
 Thank you Mr Speaker. I shall give that effort for the pronunciation of my name say five out of 10 but I am sure by next time it will be 9¾.
Ngaro Alfred: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Ngaro Alfred: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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10. 
ALFRED NGARO (National) 
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Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector 
: What recent announcements has she made regarding government support for volunteering? 
Hon JO GOODHEW (Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector) 
: 
 I recently announced that the new funding round for the Support for Volunteering Fund is now open. The Support for Volunteering Fund provides over $500000 each year to projects and organisations that promote and support volunteering in New Zealand and build volunteering capacity and capabilities. The fund is split between funding for Volunteering New Zealand regional volunteer centres and community projects. 
Alfred Ngaro 
: What is the focus for the current funding round? 
Hon JO GOODHEW 
: The focus for the current funding round is Maori Pacific and ethnic community projects. We are particularly looking to fund projects promoting information sharing networking and development of resources that support volunteering in these communities projects responding to specific cultural values and needs and projects encouraging recognising and promoting volunteers as community leaders. Community advisers in Department of Internal Affairs offices across the country are available to help with applications and I encourage interested groups to get in touch with them.
Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Clause 2 agreed to.
Macindoe Tim: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Macindoe Tim: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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8. 
TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West) 
 to the  
Minister of Science and Innovation 
: How is the Government focussing New Zealand’s science funding investment and encouraging Kiwis to get involved in science? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Science and Innovation) 
: 
 The Government has set up New Zealand’s National Science Challenges to address the biggest long-term strategic science issues that New Zealand faces. Yesterday the peak panel of eminent scientists led by the Prime Minister’s Chief Science Advisor Sir Peter Gluckman met for the first time to start sifting all the ideas and proposals received from the science community and the public into 10 or 12 challenges to recommend to Cabinet for approval. The National Science Challenges will receive $60 million of dedicated funding and will also help focus our overall investment of mission-led science funding on solving these key challenges. 
Tim Macindoe 
: How much input has been received from the public and from the science community? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: There has been very very significant input which is very heartening from both the public and the science community. For example the engagement process has resulted in around 2500 Facebook comments 138 unique submissions from the public and 223 submissions from the science community. There are eight sample challenges on the challenges website which attracted just under 5000 votes the most popular of which were on the subject of fighting disease and New Zealand’s biodiversity followed by projects around the productivity of our land and the quality of our fresh water.
Lees-Galloway Iain: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Lees-Galloway Iain: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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7. 
IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Labour—Palmerston North) 
 to the  
Prime Minister 
: Does he stand by all his statements on withdrawing troops from Afghanistan? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister) 
: 
 Yes. 
Iain Lees-Galloway 
: When he told New Zealanders that our troops would be out of Afghanistan by 2014 was he already planning to break that promise? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: Well that will probably prove to be correct. What we announced yesterday was a continuation of what we have seen which is the provisional reconstruction team will be disbanded—it will be out by April-May of this year—the SAS has gone home; and we have agreed that there will be 27 New Zealand Defence Force staff who are there for a further year that is to about the middle of 2014. We will assess that situation at that point then. But I think it makes sense to have those people in behind the wire rolls supporting a smooth transition to the Afghan Government. 
Iain Lees-Galloway 
: When was he asked to deploy New Zealand troops on the new mission that he announced yesterday and who made that request? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: I would not say it is a new deployment because some of those people are already in similar types of roles. There are eight people for instance New Zealand Defence Force staff who are in “Sandhurst in the sand” training officers so it is not necessarily new. In fact the logistics and intelligence role played by the three SAS people again is already happening at the moment but the basis of their mandate is changing. I cannot tell you the exact date when there were discussions between the Minister of Defence and his counterparts and the Minister of Foreign Affairs and his counterparts but that would have happened some time over the last 12 months. The Minister of Defence is away at an International Security Assistance Force NATO meeting at the moment. Those things are under discussion all the time. 
Iain Lees-Galloway 
: Can he confirm to the House whether or not the United States Government requested troops to be deployed in Kabul following the withdrawal of the provisional reconstruction team in Bamian? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: No and I would not say troops are being deployed in Kabul. What I would say is that there are 27 people who are working in a different variety of operational roles. Some will be in Kabul but they are largely—well they are all behind the wire and they are largely in staff officer intelligence or training-type roles.
Wagner Nicky: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Wagner Nicky: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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6. 
NICKY WAGNER (National—Christchurch Central) 
 to the  
Minister for Canterbury Earthquake Recovery 
: What progress is being made on making the Christchurch city centre safe for rebuilding? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Minister for Canterbury Earthquake Recovery) 
: 
 To date 941 buildings have been either demolished or made safe. This has been achieved with a very good safety record with a very low incidence of workplace injury and no deaths. Last Friday I officially renamed the cordoned-off area the Christchurch Central Business District Rebuild Zone in recognition of the fact that there are now more workers engaged in construction than deconstruction—[ 
Interruption 
] I can understand the excitement of the Labour members. Even though it has been 2 years of them telling us we are doing it all wrong they have now finally realised what a great job we have done. 
Nicky Wagner 
: What progress will be made towards fully opening the city centre to the public? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: There are still 48 full demolitions to be carried out in the central business district and 32 partial demolitions. There may be other buildings that will be demolished but the Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Authority believes that it has completed over 90 percent of the demolition project. Most of the larger buildings will be down by the middle of this year. As the New Zealand Defence Force will soon withdraw from the cordon after 2 years of outstanding service we would expect the cordon will be removed by the middle of this year. 
Nicky Wagner 
: What efforts have been made to deal with the rubble and waste created by that demolition in the city? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: The demolition of such a tremendous number of buildings has naturally generated a great deal of rubble. Recycling efforts have been extraordinary with recovery rates as high as 96 percent for some buildings like the former Crowne Plaza Hotel. Overall about 90 percent of materials from the central business district have been recycled. In addition heavy rubble has been used to reclaim an area of Lyttelton Harbour to allow for the reconstruction and expansion of the port. Some thousands of tonnes was also used in the construction of the Christchurch Southern Motorway. It has been a very successful project from that point of view.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: We move now to questions to members in the name of Le’aufa’amulia Asenati Lole-Taylor.
Carter David: Resignations — Dr The Rt Hon Lockwood Smith New Zealand National 
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Carter David: Resignations — Dr The Rt Hon Lockwood Smith New Zealand National 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: I wish to advise the House that I have received a letter from Dr The Rt Hon Alexander Lockwood Smith resigning his seat in the House with effect at midnight on Thursday 14 February 2013.
Clark David: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Clark David: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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Dr DAVID CLARK (Labour—Dunedin North) 
: 
 I rise to raise concern with the title of the Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill which I think has an unfortunate acronym. But that perhaps reveals the inconsistency in the Government’s handling of privacy matters which I raised in my earlier speech. If we were taking privacy information-sharing seriously as the bill’s title might suggest on the face of it rather than reading it as an acronym we would probably suggest a more comprehensive approach to the legislation and the Law Commission’s recommendations rather than one that takes bits and pieces that cherry-picks and that does not really take seriously the privacy of the citizens of New Zealand across the Government. 
We have Skycity deals the Inland Revenue Department tendering process and other things that do not seem to suggest that this Government really does take privacy issues seriously. It does when it suits—it does when it suits. We have had some tough language but as I was saying in my earlier Committee stage speech we have not yet seen a credible plan to fix the Inland Revenue Department’s computer system which is ancient and is no longer able to handle privacy matters in the way a modern system might. 
We have seen in the case of ACC and Work and Income some things that we in the Opposition do not think are proper. And we think that if this Government were taking privacy seriously it would do things differently. We also think the Government would be transparent and less private when it came to tendering arrangements—for example around the Inland Revenue Department rebuild. I have raised some concerns about that in terms of the way in which those tendering documents ruled out New Zealand tendering parties simply by virtue of the way in which those tendering documents were written. 
We see a Government determined to preserve transparency where it suits and when there is a political gain to be made—such as when members of the public have their private details released for political purposes—but not being transparent when it comes to tendering Government contracts in a full and transparent way. 
It is perhaps ironic that the title of this bill the Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill suggests an unfortunate acronym. It does suggest that the Government is taking the mickey and I think the public can themselves form a judgment on this. Thank you.
Calder Cam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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Calder Cam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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4. 
Dr CAM CALDER (National) 
 to the  
Minister of Education 
: In the context of the Government’s Christchurch schools announcement what is the process going forward? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA (Minister of Education) 
: 
 Following a 10-week consultation period with—[ 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! I at least want to hear the answer. 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: Following a 10-week consultation period with 31 schools yesterday I announced interim decisions that those schools now have until 28 March to make final submissions. This is in the context of our Government building 15 new schools in Christchurch over the next 10 years which I also announced yesterday. 
Dr Cam Calder 
: What factors has the Government taken into account during this process? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: The Ministry of Education looked at factors including earthquake damage roll size population movement and future growth building issues school locations and what opportunities there are to create better more modern schools. I am very aware that parents want certainty so that they can make decisions for their children so another factor included providing that certainty while recognising that some communities will be disappointed. 
Dr Cam Calder 
: What proportion of the school network across Greater Christchurch do these proposals affect? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: There are 215 schools of which these proposals now relate to 19. Of the almost 72000 students these proposals affect about 3800 students or just over 5 percent. But I am very aware that this is still upsetting for those families and schools and I can assure them that they will be well supported.
List Member Vacancy 
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List Member Vacancy 
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List Member Vacancy 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have been advised by the Electoral Commissioner that pursuant to section 137 of the Electoral Act 1993 Aaron Wayne Gilmore has been declared to be elected a member of the House of Representatives in place of Dr The Rt Hon Alexander Lockwood Smith. I understand that Aaron Gilmore is present and wishes to take the oath. Would he please come forward to the chair on my right.
Event: Speaker’s Rulings — Tabling of Documents—Material Already Available to Members 
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Event: Speaker’s Rulings — Tabling of Documents—Material Already Available to Members 
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Speaker’s Rulings 
Tabling of Documents—Material Already Available to Members 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Honourable members following points of order raised last week I have given further thought to the tabling of documents by leave. The primary purpose of the procedure for seeking leave to table a document is to inform the proceedings of the House by making available to members documents that would not otherwise be available. Speakers’ rulings make it clear that members should not seek leave to table documents that are already available as part of the House’s proceedings available on the Parliament website; legislation Government media releases and other reports available on Government websites; recent media articles from the major daily newspapers and national weeklies or their websites and from the major radio or television broadcasters or their websites. The intention is that documents that are not readily available to members that may be of significance or may be useful for members’ information should be able to be tabled where the House gives its consent. 
The challenge for the Speaker is what constitutes readily available in the context of the internet. Although today most documents are on the internet the sheer volume of material means that they cannot always be said to be readily available. It seems not unreasonable that I should allow leave to be sought to table historic documents and media releases and reports from credible overseas publications or organisations. The websites on which they may be found will be much less familiar to members and it is less likely that there will be reference to them in the New Zealand media or on websites that members commonly access. It is important that documents that members seek leave to table genuinely inform the proceedings of the House. 
I remind members that seeking leave to table a document is not an opportunity for members to make statements to the House. Leave should not be sought to table members’ own views from websites tweets or blogs.
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Mr Speaker 
 administered the Oath of Allegiance to Aaron Gilmore who then took his seat in the House.
Carter David: List Member Vacancy 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: I have been advised by the Electoral Commissioner that pursuant to section 137 of the Electoral Act 1993 Aaron Wayne Gilmore has been declared to be elected a member of the House of Representatives in place of Dr The Rt Hon Alexander Lockwood Smith. I understand that Aaron Gilmore is present and wishes to take the oath. Would he please come forward to the chair on my right.
Urgent Debates Declined — Schools Canterbury—Interim Decisions on Proposed Closures and Mergers Afghanistan—Deployment of Military Personnel Beyond April 2013 
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Urgent Debates Declined 
Schools Canterbury—Interim Decisions on Proposed Closures and Mergers 
Afghanistan—Deployment of Military Personnel Beyond April 2013 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have received a letter from Chris Hipkins seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the Government’s decision on the closure and merger of schools in Christchurch Selwyn and Waimakariri. The Government’s announcement of interim decisions for schools affected by the Government’s education renewal plans is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. The test for whether a particular case requires the immediate attention of the House is a high one. The business of the House should not be set aside just because an announcement has been made even though it may be important. The purpose of an urgent debate is to hold the Government accountable for its decisions. Given that an urgent debate has already been held on this matter and final decisions are not expected to be made for some months I do not consider that it would be justified in setting aside the business of the House again today. The application is therefore declined. 
I have also received a letter from Iain Lees-Galloway seeking to debate the Government’s decision to commit to new deployments of New Zealand personnel to Afghanistan. The decision on New Zealand’s contribution to Afghanistan beyond the April withdrawal of the provincial reconstruction team is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. However the decision is part of an ongoing international deployment not scheduled to end until December 2014. The financial review debate provides an opportunity to debate such operational decisions. The application is therefore also declined.
Speaker’s Rulings — Tabling of Documents—Material Already Available to Members 
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Speaker’s Rulings 
Tabling of Documents—Material Already Available to Members 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Honourable members following points of order raised last week I have given further thought to the tabling of documents by leave. The primary purpose of the procedure for seeking leave to table a document is to inform the proceedings of the House by making available to members documents that would not otherwise be available. Speakers’ rulings make it clear that members should not seek leave to table documents that are already available as part of the House’s proceedings available on the Parliament website; legislation Government media releases and other reports available on Government websites; recent media articles from the major daily newspapers and national weeklies or their websites and from the major radio or television broadcasters or their websites. The intention is that documents that are not readily available to members that may be of significance or may be useful for members’ information should be able to be tabled where the House gives its consent. 
The challenge for the Speaker is what constitutes readily available in the context of the internet. Although today most documents are on the internet the sheer volume of material means that they cannot always be said to be readily available. It seems not unreasonable that I should allow leave to be sought to table historic documents and media releases and reports from credible overseas publications or organisations. The websites on which they may be found will be much less familiar to members and it is less likely that there will be reference to them in the New Zealand media or on websites that members commonly access. It is important that documents that members seek leave to table genuinely inform the proceedings of the House. 
I remind members that seeking leave to table a document is not an opportunity for members to make statements to the House. Leave should not be sought to table members’ own views from websites tweets or blogs.
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Resignations — Dr The Rt Hon Lockwood Smith New Zealand National 
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Tuesday 19 February 2013 
Mr Speaker 
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Prayers 
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Resignations 
Dr The Rt Hon Lockwood Smith New Zealand National 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I wish to advise the House that I have received a letter from Dr The Rt Hon Alexander Lockwood Smith resigning his seat in the House with effect at midnight on Thursday 14 February 2013.
Vote: Privacy (Information Sharing) Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 72 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 177 in the name of the Hon Judith Collins to Part 1 be agreed to. 
Amendments agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 172 in the name of Denis O’Rourke to clause 8 be agreed to.
Hayes John: Reserve Bank of New Zealand (Covered Bonds) Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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JOHN HAYES (National—Wairarapa) 
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 While Labour the Greens and New Zealand First are trying to talk our economy down and promoting money printing and more taxes the National-led Government is getting on with the job of responsibly managing the country’s finances and helping build a more competitive and productive economy. The last Labour Opposition speaker—that little fellow with the huge ego and no hair who got thrown out of his electorate at the last election and is still sitting here on the list—has not worked out that this economy grew at 2 percent in the past year which puts it in the top 10 percent of the OECD. 
Interest rates are low. A family with a $200000 mortgage is now saving about $200 a week in interest. Our public finances are improving so we can return to surplus and get on top of debt. Look at this chart here: this is how we are getting on track with Government spending and returning to surplus. The policies proposed by our opponents including printing money increase the supply of money and increasing it will only increase inflation. That means that interest rates will go up so your mortgage costs will go up and so your business costs will go up. This will reduce real wages. It will cut jobs. It means that on top of everything else you buy the price of petrol would go up. 
Here are a couple of views of commentators. Since the last speaker mentioned Shamubeel Eaqub he rubbished the idea saying “printing money is a policy of last resort and it would not necessarily stop manufacturing and jobs going offshore. It might be free money in the short term but in the long term it would lead to higher inflation.” That reduces the standard of living for most people and the impact tends to be much greater on low-income households rather than higher-income households. The Employers and Manufacturers Association Chief Executive Kim Campbell says “fiddling with the currency is no quick fix.” If one thinks there is a magical printing press in the sky that solves all our problems there is nothing further from the truth and it is extremely dangerous thinking. 
Debate interrupted.
Tremain Chris: Fisheries (Foreign Charter Vessels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Hon CHRIS TREMAIN (Minister of Internal Affairs)  
on behalf of the Minister for Primary Industries: I move  
That the Primary Production Committee report the Fisheries (Foreign Charter Vessels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill to the House on or before 21 June 2013. 
Motion agreed to.
Macindoe Tim: Fisheries (Foreign Charter Vessels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West) 
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 We have had some very intelligent and thoughtful contributions to this debate from all members in the House this afternoon. I would like to thank them for that constructive engagement. I am sure that members of the Primary Production Committee will apply themselves with equal good sense to the work ahead and I wish them well in that task. 
Bill read a first time.  
Bill referred to the Primary Production Committee.
Roy Eric: Fisheries (Foreign Charter Vessels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Is the next call a split call? 
Hon Ruth Dyson 
: It is a split call—that is correct. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Right 5 minutes.
O'Connor Simon: Fisheries (Foreign Charter Vessels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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SIMON O’CONNOR (National—Tamaki) 
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 I want to acknowledge the Minister as others have as this bill the Fisheries (Foreign Charter Vessels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill is the first bill he has introduced as the Minister for Primary Industries. 
My contribution will be short. I just wanted to acknowledge that a few weeks ago I was talking to constituents in the great seat of Tamaki who have worked their way through the fishing industry from being deckhands to now being owners who are very supportive of this bill and its intentions. I think that is the key that we are as a House supportive of this and we welcome getting it to a select committee and of course eventually passed.