Key John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Key John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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1. JOHN KEY (Leader of the Opposition) 
 to the  
Prime Minister 
: Does she stand by her statement in relation to the possibility of holding a referendum alongside the general election that “Just in terms of sheer organisation I don't think that is possible.”; if not why not? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK (Prime Minister) 
: 
 Yes. 
John Key 
: If election officials can handle the very complex arrangements of a snap election why has the Prime Minister decided that they are incapable of dealing with a considerably less-complicated referendum within a similar time frame? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK 
: On the contrary the Government has accepted the advice of the Ministry of Justice that should the petition succeed in triggering referenda referenda should be held by postal ballot in 2009. 
John Key 
: Why is the Prime Minister so opposed to New Zealanders exercising their democratic rights to be heard that she is using alleged technical difficulties to suppress the will of the New Zealand people? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK 
: Of course if there are sufficient signatures there will be a referendum. But in line with the advice we have received—and it is strong advice—the best course is a postal ballot next year. 
Sue Bradford 
: How does the Prime Minister see the required review of the law that will take place in 2009 fitting in with the possibility of a referendum? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK 
: That has not been considered as having any relevance to the timing of the referendum. Rather the Ministry of Justice based on its experience of conducting such referenda at the time of the 1999 general election has given strong advice that that caused voter confusion and congestion in polling places and delayed the count. It further advised that to hold the referendum if one is triggered at the time of the general election would require more staff more polling places more training and greater organisation. Indeed a decision would need to have been made in April this year to proceed at a time before it was even clear there were enough signatures for a petition—which is clearly ridiculous. 
John Key 
: Has the Prime Minister noticed the trend which all other New Zealanders have noticed that her Government does not like the New Zealand public being able to express their view on democracy—they are about to be stopped from being able to exercise their democratic view through a referendum on the anti-smacking legislation at the election and they are being stopped from exercising their democratic rights through the deeply flawed and cynical Electoral Finance Act—and why does the Prime Minister not just admit that she finds the voters of New Zealand an annoyance? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK 
: On the contrary over a long period of time I have found them very supportive. I find it very interesting that the Leader of the Opposition is now running around saying he wants a referendum so that he can disguise from conservatives the fact that he voted for the child discipline bill in the first place—something he would like them to forget. 
John Key 
: Is the Prime Minister aware that unlike her I actually have respect for the New Zealand public’s right to express their views while she is so arrogantly out of touch with New Zealanders she has forgotten what that is like? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK 
: Unlike the Leader of the Opposition I do not flip-flop on every issue that comes before this House. 
John Key 
: Is the Prime Minister aware that to run a referendum outside of election time would cost millions and millions of dollars or once again does she have so little respect for taxpayers’ dollars that she is prepared to have them wasted when she could just run the referendum at election time; or is she running scared of that election? 
Rt Hon HELEN CLARK 
: The assertions in that question are absolute proof that the Leader of the Opposition does not have a clue what he is talking about. The advice from the Ministry of Justice is that the relative costs of holding the referendum at the general election or in a postal ballot are roughly the same. 
Gordon Copeland 
: As Larry Baldock leader of the Kiwi Party is the promoter of this petition I seek the leave of the House to ask a supplementary question. If leave is granted I would do that on the basis that I am prepared to drop a supplementary question next week. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought. Is there any objection? Yes there is objection.