Andersen GinnyHon GINNY ANDERSEN (Labour): Thank you Madam Chair. Look it's good to be able to speak on a bill and we've made it clear that we support the availability of over-the-counter pseudoephedrine provided that the Government does act in order to curtail any potential harm that we might see. I think it's important to state that I was actually involved in the recoding of this back in the day when John Key was the Prime Minister and tackling methamphetamine was the strategy that I was seconded into the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet to work with alongside Health Justice and Customs officials. This was one of the changes that was done.At that point in time the market for illegal methamphetamine was predominantly done through manufacture in New Zealand and we've seen a significant shift over that period of time for there to be the vast bulk of meth coming in pre-made over our borders in a range of creative and different ways in order to smuggle that into New Zealand. That has shifted and so we see that there good grounds to revisit the classification of this drug in order to make it available for law-abiding New Zealanders who have a cold and need to still keep soldiering on.The two questions that I have to the Minister really go to the heart of the concern about our pharmacies. If they are stocking a drug that is potentially—we want to look at seeing what that does to the domestic market. There is the potential as outlined in the regulatory impact statement that we could see changing domestic manufacture once this drug once again becomes more readily available. In the past we did have instances of pill shopping where you would see people go around and I guess do stand-over tactics to pharmacies in order to get the medicine. So I'd be interested to know what's in place for the safety of those pharmacies both in terms of stand-over tactics—that has occurred in the past—but also the more recent occurrence of ram raids or going in and breaking into a pharmacy in order to steal pseudoephedrine.I know there have been some questions raised in and around how pharmacies will be storing—you know it's a bigger requirement for them to put all the higher-risk drugs in some kind of a safe area. We want to make sure that we're doing everything we possibly can to make sure that they're not accessible to criminal groups or criminal individuals who want to exploit the increased availability that this medicine would have.I think it's also important that we turn our mind to what's happening at our borders. While police have seen and Customs as well have seen record numbers of seizures of methamphetamine particularly over the last four or five years each seizure seems to be growing in size. That is a reflection of the size of the market. There is far more methamphetamine coming into New Zealand than we've ever seen before and that's a real concern. So what I'm interested to also know as we make this drug more readily available is how we are resourcing Customs to make sure—Tim van de Molen: The last Government was soft on crime.Hon GINNY ANDERSEN: I'm sure Customs aren't soft on crime but what would be soft on crime is a 6.5 percent cut to the Customs budget. That would be really soft on crime.So we want to make sure that there are resources in place at our border so that if there is increased pressure on the border as a result of international organised criminal networkswe want to understand how we are resourcing Customs to be able to look into those containers look into all those instances to be able to make sure that they're doing their job appropriately. There is real concern if there are voluntary redundancies being offered up in that space we want to make sure that there is resourcing ongoing to make sure that this change doesn't open up the floodgates for other things to be happening and a squeezing out of the market into different ways.So I think it'll be incredibly important to be watching what this change does both to our domestic market but also any changes we see in how new importation methods might be coming in. I look forward to the Minister addressing those questions.