Shaw James: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeShaw James: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 May 2016. Volume:713;Page:10966. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]3.JAMES SHAW (Co-Leader—Green) to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his statements?Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister): My answer reads “Yes”.James Shaw: Does he stand by his statement in the House yesterday that charities including Greenpeace and Amnesty International are named in the Panama Papers as beneficiaries of foreign trusts?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I think if the member checks the Hansard you will see that I said “on the database”. They are in the database and if you actually look at how this information is presented you go to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists. There is a single website link and it says “Offshore leaks database” and then it says: “Find out who’s behind almost 320000 offshore companies and trusts from the Panama Papers and the Offshore Leaks Investigations.” Than you type in “Greenpeace” and it comes back with “Beneficiary of Exodus Trust”.David Seymour: Can the Prime Minister recall answering a question from the Green Party about the environment?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I think in 2008 when I became the Prime Minister I got one but since then it has been you know a little off radar.James Shaw: When he made that statement yesterday was he aware that those charities that he named were actually all found to have been victims of a scam where their names were used as a front by those seeking to use foreign trusts to avoid tax?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: Absolutely not—absolutely not. But this is the point is it not? This is the point—that so many New Zealanders are being implicated and that member has been at the forefront of sullying the names of New Zealanders because they are in the database. So when Deborah Pead’s name was on TV last night according to James Shaw it is fine but when it is his mate Greenpeace it is not fine. They are both in the database.James Shaw: Does that not exactly prove the point that the problem that we have got is a regulatory regime that allows foreign trusts to be used for illegitimate purposes and that we need greater transparency and disclosure?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: No. No it shows his lefty mates went and hacked into somebody’s website put it up there did not actually filter it out and did not have the decency to protect everyday New Zealanders who might be implicated and all of a sudden when one of their mates is there they do not like it. Well actually the truth is we do protect New Zealanders and if the member had some decency about him he would not have gone on the news on Saturday night and said I was responsible for the Cook Islands when he patently knows it is not true.Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is just too much interjection occurring.James Shaw: Can he tell the House why he chose to attack charities and my colleague Mojo Mathers rather than answer legitimate questions about the lack of disclosure in New Zealand’s foreign trust regulation?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: Sadly the problem with question time is—this is the way it works. The member asks the question and if it is to the Prime Minister I have to answer it. Yesterday the member asked me a question about foreign trusts with all sorts of implications that they were bad and lots of questions about the database—apparently if you are on it you are bad—and yet my simple point to New Zealanders is this: next time you hear about this database next time you hear about the Panama Papers and next time you see James Shaw making these ridiculous assertions just ask what is behind it. I am absolutely sure that the member is right: Greenpeace is unwittingly named as a beneficiary but nevertheless it is in the database and it is a beneficiary of the Exodus Trust. [Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order! The specific member in the front row was the one I received the most complaints about from my emails yesterday. I will accept some interjection but when it is continuous I am going to have to deal with it.James Shaw: Given that answer why will he not apologise to Greenpeace Amnesty International and Mojo Mathers for misrepresenting them in the House yesterday?Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I have not misrepresented Greenpeace. It is in the database as a beneficiary of the Exodus Trust. I do not like the fact that it is there but it is there so in what way am I misrepresenting it? I think the member should do this. I think he should get on his feet and he should say: “John on Saturday night”—Mr SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] Order! The Prime Minister will resume his seat. [Interruption] Order! [Interruption] Order! The Prime Minister will leave the Chamber. When I stand to my feet—it happened yesterday; I gave him fair warning—and call for order he is to be treated no differently from any other member in this House. The Prime Minister will leave the Chamber.Rt Hon John Keywithdrew from the Chamber.