Roberts AngelaANGELA ROBERTS (Labour): Well—Tim van de Molen: Are we going to hear some more alternate facts now? ANGELA ROBERTS: Or the truth—more truth. You know the interesting thing about the borders is it's become a water-cooler conversation since COVID-19 and in places like Wellington but it has long been an intense conversation at dinner tables and at the pub in my community. It is something really really important. It is something that worries our farmers and they are really really happy when they know that we have got their backs. It's really disappointing to hear a farmer on the other side of the House say it's a little bit too inconvenient a little bit too much compliance to be asking a visitor to this country to take heed of what is important to us. It is really really important to our farmers. So when we look at our borders we know we need to protect them. It's a really complex border. We've got planes and ships we've got freight and we've got passengers. There was that small piece of fruit in the hand luggage that we heard about that brought the fruit fly to Auckland a few years ago and the catastrophic impact it could have had but luckily in that case we could focus on eradication just like we are with M. bovis. We heard from Jo Luxton about the huge cost in herd replacement and in loss of income but the biggest cost that I've heard about from my students and their parents on-farm is the cost to their wellbeing. Losing your herd isn't about losing some milk; it is about something that's really important. The cost that has been borne by our farmers is significant and we acknowledge that by doing the work and bringing useful legislation to this House to help to protect them. The best-case scenario is eradication which is what we are trying to do. We have seen parts of the primary industry where management has had to be the strategy. Our apiculturists: when we talk about the mitigation costs and lost income because of the varroa mite it is huge. It is ongoing. More than $11 million per annum of income has been lost to mitigate the hive collapses for our bee-keepers and our honey producers and then the pollination that is provided across food and fibre. So this is why we need to take every step—every step—to protect food and fibre. We are not all doing it compulsorily—OK—and the great thing is we've got fantastic technology. We've got scanners we've got that wonderful old-fashioned technology called the beagle and of course we've got our mighty inspectorate. But we do need to make sure we support our visitors and people returning home to do the right thing. Declaration: declaration is critical and we need to make sure we support them to do that. The opportunity with written material and with audiovisual obligations means that we will be able to produce information in appropriate languages as was quite rightly brought up by the Green Party. They will be culturally appropriate. This is so important to us. It is part of our DNA. I remember coming home on a plane once sitting next to a young backpacker. She was travelling from the Northern Hemisphere and she'd just come through a part of the world that has snakes. She was really excited about showing me the dead snake she had in her hand luggage. It never occurred to her that that might be a bit of a problem at our border. It is about educating our visitors who come here because they respect and value the things that we respect and value. As tourists and as people who will buy our products overseas we need to support our visitors to declare. We need them to understand what is so important to us we need to make sure that we provide culturally responsive materials and we need to make sure that we build a real awareness amongst our arriving passengers because our beagles and our amazing inspectors and our scanners can't pick up everything. If we could get every visitor to declare everything they brought through that would make a significant impact and I'm really proud to be standing here and bothering to do something that will have an impact and will help to add to the huge raft of tools that we already have in our rebuilt biosecurity system. I am proud to stand here as a member of a rural community knowing that our farmers—our food and fibre sector—are better protected because we can be bothered to do the work in this House. I commend this bill to the House.