McKelvie IanIAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei): Thank you Madam Speaker. We've sort of been around the traps a bit on this bill today haven't we? I suppose I seem to get to speak on quite a number of alcohol bills in the House. I'm not sure whether that's because of my experience or just because it happens. But I was thinking as we were talking about this bill that for me to go and watch one of these games at whatever hour of the morning and to have a few beers and then get home again would be quite a mission because I've got to leave home and drive past the police transport station at Sanson to get to the local pub. Getting back would be pretty I think dangerous for me. So my point is that there's a large number of people in New Zealand who are never going to be affected by this piece of legislation. It's got absolutely no relevance at all to someone who lives in rural New Zealand a distance from the place that I live. And of course I go back to 6 o'clock closing and if we think we're going to alter the habits of people or their drinking by changing alcohol laws we're totally misguided because all that happened at 6 o'clock closing was you took a couple of packs of cards with you and you went off down the road to the nearest house or the nearest local place after you left the pub. And that's what's going to happen if we start fiddling around with alcohol laws trying to tighten them up and make things more difficult. So if you go back to that point of course the changes we might make to tighten these things up are not going to work. The only way I think we're going to manage the alcohol laws better—and Michael Woodhouse to some extent in his second reading speech touched on this—is by putting the onus completely on the operators to perform in a manner that I guess enables them to comply with the law enables their patrons to comply with the law and enables their patrons to have a bit of fun. I also go back to the days of Sam Strahan and Ian Kirkpatrick and those sort of people playing rugby. They would have never dreamed of a bar opening up for them to play rugby in front of at half past four in the morning or whatever time they might have played in England in those days and it would have been in the Northern Hemisphere. So the times have changed dramatically.I also think that the real reason for enabling these establishments to open at these unusual hours is because their primary mode of business is not going to be selling alcohol; it's going to be selling food and—as Michael Woodhouse referred to—a coffee and things like that. So I think the reasons for this bill being put in place are very good but will never apply to many of us.I want to comment on a couple of other things that were said in the course of the second reading too. Emily Henderson interestingly raised as an issue that she didn't know whether it was a round ball or a pointed ball I think she said. Well of course rugby started with a round ball and finished up with a pointed ball. So she was right on both cases in that case. And the other thing I was sort of interested in as well was Damien Smith talking about riding a bike down the Champs Elysées. Well the last time I was there there was no way to ride a bike round there. You might get to that roundabout and you'd be cleaned out for sure. So nobody's going to ride a bike down there to watch the rugby—or anything else. Well I'm not anyway.So I think that the Justice Committee did a very good job in a short time with this bill. There wasn't much to do to it but I do think it's appropriate that we put this bill through the House. And again I make the plea for us to have a revisit—and again as Paul Goldsmith referred to there's another bill which will probably be in the House tonight which attempts to make further alterations to alcohol laws in New Zealand which might or might not be useful but they certainly will be I think very concerning for the industry.So it is a challenging issue for this Parliament. I think we've done well with this bill and I think that to support those hospitality businesses in what's been an extraordinarily difficult few years for them if this bill helps them then I think it's done a good job. So that's all I have to say. Thank you.