Sepuloni CarmelHon CARMEL SEPULONI (Minister for Social Development): Both speakers that have just spoken Lawrence Yule and Nicola Willis have asked what is happening with the resource. It's very clear in the bill so I will just refer both members to Part 1 clause 5 and the relevant provisions in Schedule 1 provide for a disestablishment of the Families Commission in an orderly and manageable way. This will also minimise any potential disruption to stakeholders. Steps have already been under way to remove key functions from the Families Commission.This work started before we got into Government. I just want to remind the member that just spoke: it's OK for us to agree on some things in this House. It's OK for all political parties to support a move. I have no qualms in saying that this shift started under the previous Government and if they want to take pride in that that's OK too. We're not going to argue about that; it's absolutely OK.As the member said—and I'll inform Lawrence Yule as well—responsibility for the Growing Up in New Zealand longitudinal study and producing the annual Families and Whānau Status Report has been transferred to the Ministry of Social Development and they've got quite a responsible Minister I think! The accountability for the New Zealand Family Violence Clearinghouse has been shifted to the Ministry of Justice—good Minister over there. The Hub our one-stop shop for New Zealand's social science research has moved to the Social Investment Agency.So the plans in terms of where the resourcing would shift were already under way; we've just continued with that work. We're continuing to meet the deadline that had been set by the previous Government which is the responsible thing to do. We didn't take a long period of time in terms of considering this bill or putting it out for review or inquiry because we all agree and the schedule and time line is already in place. The members also asked what we're doing with social investment. The member would know that I announced on Monday that we will be going out to consult with the public with NGOs with iwi and with iwi organisations on our data protection use policy but also on our approach which is the Investing for Social Wellbeing" approach. If the member wants to know I can tell her now that the key differences are that this Government's primary focus is not on fiscal liability; it's actually on the well-being of New Zealanders and looking at ways that we can maximise human potential. The other difference is that we're not going to be so narrowly focused just on analytical data because we believe that human experience client experience provider experience and human conversations and interactions are really important as well—so really extending it beyond where the previous Government were at and also making sure that we build public trust around what we're doing because there was such a lack of that with the previous Government and their social investment approach. Public trust particularly with data is integral to us being able to use data effectively. We need to do that because—just like the previous Government wanted to do but didn't quite get there—we want to make sure that we're informing our services so that they are effective for the service users for the clients for the New Zealanders that need to access that support. So in some ways we're on the same page. I think the previous Government had the same intention in some ways as what we do; however we have different beliefs and ways in which we think we need to get there. So those are the key differences and I hope that that is a good enough explanation for that member."