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Sabin Mike: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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[Sitting date: 21 June 2012. Volume:681;Page:3226. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
9. 
MIKE SABIN (National—Northland) 
 to the  
Minister of Immigration 
: What reports has he received on the benefits to New Zealand of the Recognised Seasonal Employer scheme? 
Hon NATHAN GUY (Minister of Immigration) 
: 
 I recently received the results of the 2011 survey of the Recognised Seasonal Employer scheme which show the scheme is working well. The Recognised Seasonal Employer policy was designed to help with seasonal labour shortages in the horticulture and viticulture industries where New Zealanders are unavailable. The research found that most employers in the scheme have enjoyed better quality more productive workers and a more stable workforce. Many employers reported that workers in the scheme have helped their business to expand. 
Mike Sabin 
: What feedback has he received on the Recognised Seasonal Employer scheme? 
Hon NATHAN GUY 
: I have received some very positive feedback: 93 percent of employers surveyed say that the benefits of this scheme outweigh the costs. I am also aware that there has been some very good feedback from one particular MP who took part in a television show last year working with workers in the scheme at Tendertips Asparagus farm in the Otaki electorate. That MP said: “I am now convinced that it’s a good thing for the workers a good thing for employers and a very good thing for the New Zealand economy.” And that MP was of course former Minister of Labour the Hon Trevor Mallard.
Cunliffe David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I apologise for delaying the next question. I seek leave to table a letter to me from the Deputy State Services Commissioner in relation to the previous question to the Minister for Economic Development which says “There are no other papers in relation to the due diligence process.” contradicting what the Minister has just told the House. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 







Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The fact is that I asked the same question twice and I got the same answer twice and it is not correct. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! The member will resume his seat and he will not carry on like that because the Minister answered his question. Whether the member agrees with the answer or not is another matter. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: It’s not true. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! The member should not be interjecting. If it ain’t true the member’s party has two more supplementary questions. He could have challenged the Minister’s answer. That is what question time is about. It is not about making clever statements; it is about asking tough questions.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I want to refer you to the answers given to question No. 4 by the Minister for Economic Development. The fact is that the State Services Commission advised that there are other documents and other reports— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: This is a pretty serious issue. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! The member cannot dispute an answer by way of a point of order. The rules of this House make no provision for that. The member has further supplementary questions. He could have used those further supplementary questions to probe the Minister’s answer. But he cannot dispute the answer by way of a point of order. That is totally contrary to the rules of this House. The right honourable member has been in this House long enough to know that.
Ross Jami-Lee: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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5. 
JAMI-LEE ROSS (National—Botany) 
 to the  
Minister of Police 
: What actions has the Government taken against illegal street racers? 
Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister of Police) 
: 
 I am pleased to advise the House that the first vehicle crushing under the boy-racer legislation took place this morning at Seaview in Lower Hutt and it was pretty spectacular. The car’s owner had been found guilty of driving while suspended loss of traction and dangerous driving leading to a 21-month disqualification. The court ordered his car to be seized and destroyed following his third strike under the Sentencing (Vehicle Confiscation) Amendment Act introduced by my colleague Minister Collins in the last term of this Government. 
Jami-Lee Ross 
: What has the trend been in illegal street racing activity since the Government passed legislation tackling illegal street races? 
Hon ANNE TOLLEY 
: Police data across the districts show a 29 percent reduction in reported illegal street racing offences since 2009. This shows the powerful deterrent effect of the car-crushing legislation. I am confident that today’s crushing will make boy racers think twice before engaging in further illegal activity.
Parker David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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[Sitting date: 21 June 2012. Volume:681;Page:3215. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
: 
 There has been an error in my office and the word “deficit” should appear after the word “account”. I seek leave to insert the word “deficit” after the word “account”.
Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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[Sitting date: 21 June 2012. Volume:681;Page:3215. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is no objection.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 The Business Committee was notified on Tuesday that extended hours were likely this coming week as is required under the Standing Orders.
Mallard Trevor: Business Statement 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I just want to seek an assurance from the Leader of the House that with regard to leave granted previously in select committees before they were aware of the extended sitting or urgency the select committees will not sit using that leave granted in ignorance of what is happening next week—they will not avail themselves of that leave and in fact they will seek it again if in fact the House is sitting under extended hours.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 When the House resumes on Tuesday 26 June the Government intends to hold the combined 3-hour debate on the second readings of the Appropriation (2011/12 Supplementary Estimates) Bill and an Imprest Supply Bill; the debate on the performance and current operations of Crown entities public organisations and State enterprises; and the remaining stages of the Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims (2012 Expiry and Application Dates) Amendment Bill. All of these measures need to be completed by 30 June 2012. It would also be desirable to make progress on the Dairy Industry Restructuring Amendment Bill as voting on Trading Among Farmers takes place on 25 June 2012. The Mixed Ownership Model Bill and first readings on the Order Paper would also be worth progressing ahead of the winter adjournment. Accordingly as notified to the Business Committee the Government will move extended hours next Tuesday or possibly full urgency depending on the progress this week.
Business Statement 
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Thursday 21 June 2012 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Business Statement 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 When the House resumes on Tuesday 26 June the Government intends to hold the combined 3-hour debate on the second readings of the Appropriation (2011/12 Supplementary Estimates) Bill and an Imprest Supply Bill; the debate on the performance and current operations of Crown entities public organisations and State enterprises; and the remaining stages of the Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims (2012 Expiry and Application Dates) Amendment Bill. All of these measures need to be completed by 30 June 2012. It would also be desirable to make progress on the Dairy Industry Restructuring Amendment Bill as voting on Trading Among Farmers takes place on 25 June 2012. The Mixed Ownership Model Bill and first readings on the Order Paper would also be worth progressing ahead of the winter adjournment. Accordingly as notified to the Business Committee the Government will move extended hours next Tuesday or possibly full urgency depending on the progress this week. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I just want to seek an assurance from the Leader of the House that with regard to leave granted previously in select committees before they were aware of the extended sitting or urgency the select committees will not sit using that leave granted in ignorance of what is happening next week—they will not avail themselves of that leave and in fact they will seek it again if in fact the House is sitting under extended hours. 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 The Business Committee was notified on Tuesday that extended hours were likely this coming week as is required under the Standing Orders.
Tisch Lindsay: Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims (2012 Expiry and Application Dates) Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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[Sitting date: 21 June 2012. Volume:681;Page:3254. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I understand the next call is a split call. I will ring the bell at 4 minutes.
Roy Eric: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Members in the face of some interruptions I neglected to announce the numbers in relation to the first vote and I am sure they are of interest to the Committee. The option of 18 years of age received 50 votes 20 years received 38 and the split age 33. Hence the split age option dropped off. 
We now have had the vote on 18 or 20. The option for 18 has 69 votes. The option for 20 has 53 votes. The age of 18 is agreed to. Unlock the doors. 
Members that concludes our debate on the age for the sale and purchase of alcohol from licensed premises and I will report progress. Would members retain their seats till I have done that. 
Progress reported. 
Report adopted.
Roy Eric: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I have a script. There is a chronology of events that take place. The doors have now been unlocked. Members will now vote between two options. The option with the fewest votes was the split age. That option is eliminated. A second vote will now be taken between age 18 and age 20. Ring the bells. [ 
Interruption 
] Order! I have a script. Members will go to the Ayes lobby to give their votes to 18. I need a teller for the 18s—the Hon Tau Henare. Members will go to the Noes lobby to vote for 20. I need a teller for the 20s—Louise Upston. Abstentions will be recorded by the Clerk. Proxy votes must be marked as such. Lock the doors. Let me restate the issue. A second vote is being held. In the Ayes lobby is the vote for 18. In the Noes lobby is the vote for 20. 
18 years: 68 
Ardern J 
English (P) 
King C 
Smith L (P) 
Ardern S 
Faafoi 
Lee 
Smith N (P) 
Banks 
Fenton 
Lees-Galloway 
Tirikatene (P) 
Barry (P) 
Finlayson (P) 
Logie 
Tisch 
Bennett D (P) 
Genter 
Mackey 
Turei 
Bennett P (P) 
Goldsmith (P) 
Mallard 
Turia (P) 
Browning 
Groser (P) 
Mathers (P) 
Twyford (P) 
Brownlee (P) 
Guy (P) 
McCully (P) 
Wagner (P) 
Carter 
Hague 
McKelvie 
Walker 
Chauvel 
Hipkins 
Norman (P) 
Wilkinson 
Clendon 
Horomia (P) 
O’Connor S 
Williamson (P) 
Cunliffe 
Hughes 
Parker (P) 
Woodhouse 
Curran 
Huo 
Prasad 
Woods 
Dalziel 
Hutchison 
Robertson G 
Dean (P) 
Jones (P) 
Roche 
Delahunty (P) 
Joyce (P) 
Ross 
Dunne 
Kaye 
Sage (P) 
Teller: 
Dyson 
Key (P) 
Shearer (P) 
Henare 
20 years: 53 
Adams (P) 
Goodhew (P) 
Mitchell 
Simpson  
Auchinvole 
Graham (P) 
Moroney (P) 
Sio (P) 
Bakshi 
Harawira (P) 
Ngaro (P) 
Stewart 
Blue 
Hayes (P) 
O’Connor D (P) 
Street 
Borrows 
Heatley (P) 
O’Rourke 
Tolley 
Bridges 
Horan 
Parata (P) 
Tremain 
Calder 
King A (P) 
Peters (P) 
Wall (P) 
Clark (P) 
Little 
Prosser 
Williams (P) 
Coleman (P) 
Lole-Taylor 
Robertson R (P) 
Yang 
Collins 
Lotu-Iiga 
Roy (P) 
Young 
Cosgrove (P) 
Macindoe 
Ryall (P) 
Flavell 
Mahuta (P) 
Sabin 
Foss (P) 
Martin 
Shanks 
Teller 
Goff (P) 
McClay 
Sharples (P) 
Upston
Roy Eric: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Order! The time for this debate has concluded. An election will be held to agree the age for the sale and purchase of alcohol from licensed premises. Ring the bells. Members will go to the Noes lobby and give their vote to the Clerk for age 18 years 20 years or split age—on-licence 18 years and off-licence 20 years. Abstentions will also be recorded by the Clerk in the lobby. Proxy votes must be marked as such. Tellers for the election will be the clerks. 
Lock the doors! Lock the doors! Let me restate the issue. An election is being held to agree the age for the sale and purchase of alcohol from licensed premises. 
18 years: 50 
Ardern J 
Dyson 
Kaye 
Roche 
Ardern S 
Faafoi 
King C 
Ross 
Barry (P) 
Fenton (P) 
Lee 
Sage (P) 
Bennett D (P) 
Finlayson (P) 
Logie 
Smith L (P) 
Bennett P (P) 
Genter 
Mackey 
Tirikatene (P) 
Browning 
Hague 
Mallard 
Turei 
Carter 
Henare 
Mathers (P) 
Walker 
Chauvel 
Hipkins 
McCully (P) 
Wilkinson 
Clendon 
Horomia (P) 
McKelvie 
Williamson (P) 
Curran 
Hughes 
Norman (P) 
Woodhouse 
Dean (P) 
Huo 
O’Connor S 
Woods 
Delahunty (P) 
Hutchison 
Prasad 
Dunne 
Jones (P) 
Robertson G 
20 years: 38 
Auchinvole 
Hayes 
Ngaro (P) 
Simpson 
Bakshi 
Horan 
O’Rourke 
Sio (P) 
Blue 
King A (P) 
Parata (P) 
Stewart 
Bridges 
Lole-Taylor 
Peters (P) 
Tolley 
Calder 
Lotu-Iiga 
Prosser 
Upston 
Cosgrove (P) 
Macindoe 
Robertson R (P) 
Wall (P) 
Flavell 
Mahuta (P) 
Roy (P) 
Williams (P) 
Foss (P) 
Martin 
Ryall (P) 
Yang 
Graham (P) 
Mitchell 
Sabin 
Harawira (P) 
Moroney (P) 
Shanks 
Split Age: 33 
Adams (P) 
English (P) 
Lees-Galloway 
Tisch 
Banks 
Goff (P) 
Little 
Tremain 
Borrows 
Goldsmith (P) 
McClay 
Turia (P) 
Brownlee 
Goodhew (P) 
O’Connor D (P) 
Twyford (P) 
Clark (P) 
Groser (P) 
Parker (P) 
Wagner (P) 
Coleman (P) 
Guy (P) 
Sharples (P) 
Young 
Collins 
Heatley (P) 
Shearer (P) 
Cunliffe 
Joyce (P) 
Dalziel 
Key (P)
Roy Eric: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Members I have the result. The option with the most votes is 18 years. That option has not attained a clear majority of votes cast. A second vote will now be held. Unlock the doors.
Roy Eric: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: This debate will conclude at 5.30 p.m.
Faafoi Kris: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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KRIS FAAFOI (Labour—Mana) 
: 
 As the member of Parliament for Mana my electorate takes in the entire city of Porirua. It is a diverse city and it is actually the youngest city in the country. Putting out that responsibility of making sure those youngsters get the best start in life is something I take very seriously. I do agree with all the members in this Committee that our drinking culture and our drinking attitude in New Zealand is a serious and complex issue but I do not think we are going to solve it with just a simple answer of lifting the drinking age to 20. 
Like most members of Parliament I think it has been difficult to clear our emails over the last couple of weeks. We have been heavily lobbied on both the Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill and the purchase age of alcohol in the Alcohol Reform Bill. I would like to thank people from both sides of the fence on this issue for making sure that they have let us know their opinions. 
Many in my community share a collective concern about the harm that alcohol is doing in our streets in our clubs in our pubs and especially in our homes. I am absolutely committed to reducing the harm that youth drinking is doing and making sure our youngsters are as safe as possible. But I do not think that changing the purchase age will make a major headway into changing drinking culture. 
I have canvassed my community and I have taken the opportunity to speak to our local police our local public health specialists other public representatives pub owners and of course members of the community. Although there is evidence within my community that youth drinking and the negative effects of that are a problem I do believe we have to face up to the issue that there is also a problem for those in their 20s those in their 30s those in their 40s those in their 50s and those in their 60s. I think it would be unfair to disadvantage 18 and 19-year-olds solely because of the drinking culture that we all have in New Zealand. 
I do not think that this issue alone—the purchase age of alcohol—addresses all of the complex issues that are before us when we look at alcohol consumption in New Zealand. I do think a lot of it will come down to changing our attitudes of personal responsibility as parents and as adults. Everyone in New Zealand will have to make sure that education is much better. What is acceptable in our streets our homes and our pubs and clubs must be better. Our expectations and most of all our attitudes must change. Our attitudes much change. Attitudes of people of all ages in New Zealand must change. 
I am voting to keep the purchase age at 18 but I will be looking at tougher measures throughout the rest of the bill. I do not think the bill as it stands takes issues seriously enough. I do think this is an opportunity that we should not miss to toughen up all the alcohol issues that face New Zealand. But most of all our attitudes must change.
Robertson H V Ross: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Thank you very much for reminding the Committee of that Mr Mallard—very much appreciated.
Mallard Trevor: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I think in briefing the Committee you missed one relatively important point and that is to tell members of the Committee that as agreed by leave yesterday there will be only a 1-minute bell between the declaration of the first vote and the starting of the second vote and therefore members should not go back to their offices.
Robertson H V Ross: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: The House is in Committee on the Alcohol Reform Bill. It is a decision on the age for the sale and purchase of alcohol from licensed premises. [ 
Interruption 
] Order! Would members who are having a conversation like to take it outside the Chamber. 
We are in the process of beginning the debate on the alcohol purchase age. The House is in Committee on the Alcohol Reform Bill. Following—[ 
Interruption 
] Members should listen to this. Following the leave granted by the House yesterday I remind members that this debate will take the form of an in principle debate on the issue of the age for the sale and purchase of alcohol from licensed premises and the issue of the purchase age will be decided at 5.30 p.m. by an election from the three options: 18 years 20 years and a split age. If this election does not produce a majority decision the option receiving the fewest votes will be eliminated and the issue decided between the remaining two options by a personal vote. The Committee will report progress at the conclusion of the voting and any amendments to the bill necessary to implement the Committee’s decision will be drafted by parliamentary counsel. 
The issue before the Committee is the age for the sale and purchase of alcohol from licensed premises. In the interests of fairness and participation in the debate members will get an opportunity for an individual 5-minute call.
Smith Lockwood: Urgent Debates Declined — Foreign Affairs and Trade Ministry—Investigation into Leaked Cabinet Papers Relating to Proposed Changes 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: I have received a letter from the Hon Phil Goff seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the involvement of the Minister of Trade in the inquiry into the leak of a Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade Cabinet paper. An urgent debate cannot be granted on the basis of newspaper speculation. A case of recent occurrence occurs when a decision is publicly announced by the Government. The inquiry is ongoing. The accumulation of information in regard to an issue is not itself a particular case of recent occurrence nor does it require the immediate attention of the House. The application is therefore declined.
Prosser Richard: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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10. 
RICHARD PROSSER (NZ First) 
 to the  
Minister of Defence 
: Can he confirm whether or not the planned replacement for  
HMNZS Endeavour 
 will be built to internationally accepted military specifications? 
Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Defence) 
: 
 Cabinet is yet to consider any options for the replacement of the  
Endeavour.  
Richard Prosser 
: Can he tell the House which of the seven Project Protector vessels acquired for the navy were built to internationally accepted military specifications and which were built to civilian standard only? 
Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN 
: I can tell the member that of the Project Protector fleet the  
Canterbury 
 the offshore patrol vessels and the inshore patrol vessels were all actually built to commercial standards. They do a fantastic job and are internationally acclaimed for their work. No one has previously raised any issues around that. They provided great value for money and have been doing a good job. 
Richard Prosser 
: Does this Government have any plans to replace the commercially designed HMNZS  
Canterbury 
 with a more seaworthy military specification vessel given the number of performance shortfalls that have been identified since it has been in operation? 
Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN 
: There has been a long remediation programme for the  
Canterbury 
 and it is basically going to be fit for purpose for the future but if you look at the wider picture it has got great sealift capacity and it is a very important part of our fleet. It actually brings some real extra performance to the game when we exercise internationally with partners such as Australia which greatly appreciate that capability that we have.
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8. 
SHANE ARDERN (National—Taranaki - King Country) 
 to the  
Minister of Transport 
: What recent analysis has he seen on transport investment? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Minister of Transport) 
: 
 I have seen analysis that in the 9 years between 1999 and 2008 the Labour Government supported by the Green and New Zealand First Parties spent just over $1.1 billion on public transport infrastructure and services. This analysis shows that in the 6 years between 2008 and 2015 the National-led Government will invest just over $1.7 billion in public transport and infrastructure. In 6 years this Government will increase the public transport spend by 50 percent more than the previous Government did in 9 years. This Government is committed to an efficient safe cost-effective public transport system and instead of talking about we are funding it. 
Shane Ardern 
: Does this analysis reveal anything about local road spending? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: Yes. It shows that over the same period the Labour Government supported by the New Zealand First and Green Parties spent around $930 million on the improvement of local roads and approximately $2.9 billion on the maintenance of local roads. This Government will invest over $3.9 billion in local roads between 2008 and 2015 a 6-year period. In two-thirds of the time this Government will do far more for improving the maintenance of local roads than the previous Labour Government. This Government understands the importance of those local roads and no local roading authority will get less funding in the 3 years ahead anywhere in New Zealand. The programme launched yesterday is one of the biggest allocations to roading infrastructure New Zealand has ever seen. 
Shane Ardern 
: What does this analysis show in regard to road safety? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: This is another piece of good news. It probably will not surprise the House to learn that it shows a very clear trend. You see the Government believes in improving the safety of our roading network. We are committing to reducing the road toll and reducing road accidents. The analysis I have been shown shows that this Government is investing almost $2 billion in road policing in the 6 years between 2008-09 and 2014-15. It is a strengthening of that budget in difficult financial times but it is well worth it because it does mean that New Zealanders will be safer and it compares very very favourably—$2 billion compared with the money spent over a much longer period by the previous Government. We need all motorists to drive safely and considerately and good roads will facilitate that.
Robertson H V Ross: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I call Denis Roche. [ 
Interruption 
] Denis O’Rourke.
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5. 
Dr JIAN YANG (National) 
 to the  
Minister of Health 
: What reports has he had on progress with the six national health targets? 
Hon TONY RYALL (Minister of Health) 
: 
 There is more good news from the Government’s national health targets published today. Our public hospitals have now achieved a new record for patients being seen in their emergency departments with 94 percent of patients discharged or treated in less than 6 hours. This is important because it is a measure of the performance across the whole of the hospital. All cancer patients received their treatment within the world gold standard of 4 weeks for the sixth quarter in a row. Finally district health boards this year have provided elective surgery for 153000 patients—that is 30 percent more patients in a year than under Labour. 
Dr Jian Yang 
: What progress has been made on the preventative health targets? 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: As you know this Government is very committed to preventive health measures throughout the public health service. All measures have improved in terms of the preventive health targets including more heart and diabetes checks which are up 3 percent; immunisation coverage for 2-year-olds has risen to a new record of 93 percent when it was only 67 percent a few years ago under the previous Government; and in relation to better help for smokers to quit of the 40000 patients hospitalised 94 percent were given help to discourage them from smoking the highest rate being at the Lakes District Health Board where 99 percent of all their patients in the last quarter were given help to stop smoking. I would like to thank all our hard-working staff who are working so hard to provide better front-line health services and preventive health services for New Zealand families.
Hague Kevin: Alcohol Reform Bill — In Committee 
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KEVIN HAGUE (Green) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. The method we are using to determine this decision involves the exclusion of the least popular option. So I think members will need to know what—
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Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I wonder whether I could ask the leave of the House to move a motion without notice regarding the 100th birthday of Nancy Wake the Allies’ most decorated female war hero. This is her 100th birthday today. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Just to get it clear the member is seeking leave for a motion to be moved without debate to commemorate that occasion. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is no objection. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: I regret the collective lack of preparation on this frankly. I move  
That this House 
commemorate the 100th birthday of the late Nancy Grace Augusta Wake and acknowledge her contribution to the Allied cause during World War II 
. She was the Allies’ most famous and decorated Second World War hero remembering that she was after all born in New Zealand of both Maori and European background. It is perhaps a matter of disappointment that we as a country have not acknowledged her in the way that France the United States Australia and the United Kingdom have. 
Motion agreed to.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Well I gave three specific bills that we will be progressing. As the shadow Leader of the House knows I do try in these adjournments to get an indication to other parties by Thursday of that week. I will do that this week.
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 Can I ask the Leader of the House whether he can be a bit more specific. To say “a number of first second and third readings” does not really help with the planning.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Next week the House is in a 1-week adjournment. When the House resumes on Tuesday 11 September the Government will look to complete a number of first second and third readings on the Order Paper including the Biosecurity Law Reform the Patents Bill and the Land Transport Management Amendment Bill.
Urgent Debates Declined — Foreign Affairs and Trade Ministry—Investigation into Leaked Cabinet Papers Relating to Proposed Changes 
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Urgent Debates Declined 
Foreign Affairs and Trade Ministry—Investigation into Leaked Cabinet Papers Relating to Proposed Changes 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have received a letter from the Hon Phil Goff seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the involvement of the Minister of Trade in the inquiry into the leak of a Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade Cabinet paper. An urgent debate cannot be granted on the basis of newspaper speculation. A case of recent occurrence occurs when a decision is publicly announced by the Government. The inquiry is ongoing. The accumulation of information in regard to an issue is not itself a particular case of recent occurrence nor does it require the immediate attention of the House. The application is therefore declined.
Motions — Nancy Wake—100th Birthday 
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Nancy Wake—100th Birthday 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I wonder whether I could ask the leave of the House to move a motion without notice regarding the 100th birthday of Nancy Wake the Allies’ most decorated female war hero. This is her 100th birthday today. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Just to get it clear the member is seeking leave for a motion to be moved without debate to commemorate that occasion. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is no objection. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: I regret the collective lack of preparation on this frankly. I move  
That this House 
commemorate the 100th birthday of the late Nancy Grace Augusta Wake and acknowledge her contribution to the Allied cause during World War II 
. She was the Allies’ most famous and decorated Second World War hero remembering that she was after all born in New Zealand of both Maori and European background. It is perhaps a matter of disappointment that we as a country have not acknowledged her in the way that France the United States Australia and the United Kingdom have. 
Motion agreed to.
Business Statement 
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Thursday 30 August 2012 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
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Business Statement 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Next week the House is in a 1-week adjournment. When the House resumes on Tuesday 11 September the Government will look to complete a number of first second and third readings on the Order Paper including the Biosecurity Law Reform the Patents Bill and the Land Transport Management Amendment Bill. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 Can I ask the Leader of the House whether he can be a bit more specific. To say “a number of first second and third readings” does not really help with the planning. 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Well I gave three specific bills that we will be progressing. As the shadow Leader of the House knows I do try in these adjournments to get an indication to other parties by Thursday of that week. I will do that this week.
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Draft transcript - Tuesday 29 January 2013 
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Vote: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the report be adopted. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Report adopted.
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I move  
That the report be adopted 
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Vote: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 59 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Clause 2 agreed to. 
Progress reported. 
House resumed.
Vote: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: We have an amendment in the name of the honourable member Grant Robertson which was an amendment requiring referral to the Finance and Expenditure Committee prior to the commencement set out on Supplementary Order Paper 58. That is out of order for lack of certainty regarding the commencement date. The proposed amendment relies on an indeterminate event—Speaker’s ruling 117/2. The next amendment is in the name of the honourable member Hone Harawira. It is a typescript amendment to insert a new subclause (1AA) making the commencement contingent on the support of the Waitangi Tribunal. That also is out of order for lack of certainty regarding the commencement date. The proposed amendment relies on an indeterminate event and that is covered under Speaker’s ruling 117/2. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 47 in the name of the Hon David Parker to clause 2 be agreed to.
Vote: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 1 be agreed to.  
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 59 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Clause 1 agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 53 in the name of Chris Hipkins to clause 2 be agreed to.
Vote: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 70 in the name of Dr Russel Norman to clause 2 be agreed to.
Vote: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to.  
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Lianne Dalziel to clause 1 be agreed to: 
to replace “Mixed Ownership Model Act 2012” with “Privatisation of Public Property Act 2012”.
Vote: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to.  
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Damien O’Connor to clause 1 be agreed to: 
after the word “Mixed” insert “Up”.
Vote: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 45 in the name of Dr David Clark to clause 1 be agreed to.
Vote: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Rt Hon Winston Peters to clause 1 be agreed to: 
to replace “Mixed Ownership Model Act 2012” with “Asset Privatisation Act 2012”.
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CHRIS HIPKINS (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. The point of order that I wish to raise is whether it is a requirement for the Chair to deal with a point of order before they begin a vote.
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: All I can say is to refer the member to Speaker’s ruling 10/4—that whenever a question has been put to the House the interruption of business is deferred until the question is determined. And that means it should be done now. Secondly I come back to Speaker’s ruling 66/4: “Once a vote has commenced it has to be completed.” As the Chair of the Committee I am guided by Speakers’ rulings and the Speaker’s ruling is quite specific.