Dean JacquiHon JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki): Thank you Mr Chair. I want to acknowledge the Minister who's just given us a full explanation of those aspects of Part 2 to do with stock movement and I want to reflect on what the Minister said and what it will mean to farmers and lifestylers and people with contiguous farming operations. It will mean for them—and we absolutely accept the necessity for this legislation and the necessity for compliance with this legislation. I don't think farmers understand that any more clearly than those farmers in South Canterbury and North Otago where in Glenavy the first six farms were identified as having M. bovis.I'm not unfamiliar with the situation in South Canterbury and North Otago obviously and I just want to talk about a meeting I went to in Glenavy at the hall. We had representatives from National Animal Identification and Tracing (NAIT) and from the Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI). It was a very full meeting—probably about 200 farmers—at 5 o'clock on a Wednesday evening or something like that and the MPI officer in charge gave those farmers a very clear message around the reporting of their movements to protect stock from the further spread of M. bovis. There was one voice in the audience—one farmer—who said Well if it gets too hard then we have choices." And the MPI man very rightly said "No you don't. You don't have choices. You should comply with NAIT requirements and particularly with stock movement restrictions that may be put on because of M. bovis. Because if you don't comply we will come and visit you and it won't be pleasant."—or words to that effect. It was a very strong warning and it was accepted by the vast majority—this was just one lone voice. But if I then reflect on the powers of NAIT inspectors to enter a property without warrant and if I reflect on how that will impact farming families then how can farmers have confidence in NAIT? How can they have confidence in MPI when what they are seeing increasingly now is not a spirit of cooperation: " Let's deal with this biosecurity incursion together." No it's not like that anymore. What it is now is "We're going to legislate for you. We're going to legislate against you. Our big stick that was shown at the meeting down south in South Canterbury has just got a whole lot bigger and more powerful because we will come on to your property without notice. We will come into your home without a warrant and we will search what we believe we need to." So that spirit of cooperation—CHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe): For the last one and half minutes—if the member can turn her attention to the actual clause 9 or relate her story to it.Hon JACQUI DEAN: Yes; thank you Mr Chair. I am making my comments in the context of stock movements which are in regulations contained in Part 2 but I'm just weaving a bit of a story around it. The point I want to make is that in the climate of fear and concern that is current in South Canterbury North Otago and in those farming families that have been affected by M. bovis the kind of the big-stick approach in this piece of legislation does not engender confidence in MPI and without that confidence and spirit of being able to work through the issues together then things are just going to get so much harder for those families.I have had as have a number of colleagues a number of situations where I have had to keep the box of tissues very close by as farming families are explaining their frustrations their fear their loss of income the loss of their reputation the loss of their business the loss of the cows in their herd—which they know by name—and their daughters and their daughters and their daughters. Now they matter too and I would like to see some acknowledgment by the Minister that they matter too in the promulgation of this legislation which gives NAIT and MPI a very very big stick to clobber them with."