O'Rourke DenisDENIS O'ROURKE (NZ First): I want to talk about two things in relation to this new part of the bill: first of all supply and secondly affordability because those are in fact the crucial issues. First of all supply. That means actually the rate of new house building. Labour and the Greens say 10000 houses per annum; the Government per Alfred Ngaro seems to be saying 14600 per annum because he talked about 40 houses a day and if you multiply that by 365 days you get 14300. In fact the Government is getting nowhere near that rate of building. Nevertheless that is what he claimed for some reason. But neither of these are actually enough. If you look at the Auckland Unitary Plan and other indicators actually the real need in Auckland over the next 7 years is a minimum of 130000 houses if immigration is going to continue at a net gain of 70000 people a year—70000 people a year. If that were curbed then maybe that need could be reduced. But the fact is that with that magnitude of net immigration the need in Auckland alone over 7 years is 130000 houses. That is why New Zealand First has for the last year or more had in its housing policy a target of 140000 over the next 7 years. We took notice of all those indicators and we put in our policy 140000 houses over 7 years which is 20000 a year. That is not just political one-upmanship; it is actually based on research and actual need as indicated by independent parties. It is not an invention by New Zealand First. It is what the actual need is if immigration is going to continue at the current rate. Yet if you were to believe Alfred Ngaro the Government wants to build 14600 a year which is actually 102600 houses over 7 years. Yet his own Minister the Minister of Homelessness" said that that was unaffordable unachievable. He said that all of the parties on this side of the House had unachievable targets and yet Alfred Ngaro actually says it should be even more than that. So this Government is in total disarray. It does not actually have a target in its so-called comprehensive housing plan. We do not really know what it is trying to do. All we know is that it is doing some haphazard things and what it has amounted to is as I have said in the past a litany of failed policies and no comprehensive housing plan whatsoever. In fact all it has been doing with the special housing areas is to build a pathetically small number of houses—1300 over the last 3 years—which is nowhere near the need. The point however is that whatever the target is there is a genuine need out there and it is not ever going to be met through Resource Management Act reform. It is not ever going to be met through special housing areas and accords with local government while the reliance on building the houses themselves is left totally in the hands of private developers. Megan Woods in her speech said it is the Labour Party that has the plan. Well actually it is not just the Labour Party. New Zealand First for the last 3 or more years has had that sort of plan for Government intervention in the market to actually build houses to develop and build houses—appropriate houses affordable houses modest houses that people can afford as their first home—and to sell them on terms that people can actually afford. We have always said that. We have always known that direct investment by the Government is the only way that this housing crisis can be solved. The private market alone will never do it—it will never do it—and that is what this Government does not seem to understand. I want to move on to affordability because that—"