12. Question No. 12—Whānau OraJO HAYES (National) to the Minister for Whānau OraQuestion No. 12—Whānau Ora12. JO HAYES (National) to the Minister for Whānau Ora: Has he asked Hon Willie Jackson if he was both a Government Minister and a trustee of the Manukau Urban Māori Authority when it received dividends from Te Pou Matakana; if so what was his response?Hon PEENI HENARE (Minister for Whānau Ora): No. This is outside of my responsibilities as the Minister for Whānau Ora.Jo Hayes: Has he asked the Hon Willie Jackson if he was both a Government Minister and a trustee of the National Urban Māori Authority (NUMA) when it received dividends from Te Pou Matakana; if so what was his response?Rt Hon Winston Peters: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Normally that question would be allowed but that question imputes an illegality on a conflict of interest with no evidence whatsoever and this House should know that that's going to lead to disorder. If that member wishes to make those sorts of insinuations by way of a question then we need the evidence otherwise it's out of order in my submission.Hon Gerry Brownlee: Point of order.SPEAKER: No before I deal with that the two members who interjected while Mr Peters was on his feet will stand withdraw and apologise.Hon Todd McClay: I withdraw and apologise.Andrew Bayly: I withdraw and apologise.SPEAKER: Well there were three.Hon Gerry Brownlee: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. With regards to that: firstly it was a question and a question about a subject the Minister should know about but it also came after a series of questions at a select committee and the transcript of course would be available should the foreign Minister wish to read it.SPEAKER: Yeah. I'm going to ask the member to read her question again. I think it went right up to the margin. It doesn't have authentication but I want to listen to it carefully.Jo Hayes: Has he asked the Hon Willie Jackson if he was both a Government Minister and a trustee of the National Urban Māori Authority when it received dividends from Te Pou Matakana; if so what was his response?SPEAKER: Yeah—no that question's acceptable.Hon PEENI HENARE: No and I have full confidence in the management of conflicts of interest by this Government.Jo Hayes: Why hasn't he asked the Hon Willie Jackson that question considering their disagreements on information that came to light in a One News story last week?Hon PEENI HENARE: The member shouldn't believe everything she sees on the news.Jo Hayes: How can he be certain then that the $600000 of dividends will be reinvested back into Whānau Ora if his own CEO was concerned about the practice?Hon PEENI HENARE: I'm confident because the recipients of such a fund are actually charitable entities and—as Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector with purview over charities—they are obliged to reinvest that money into their charitable purpose and into their services in the community.Jo Hayes: Has he had a word with his colleague for further background on the administrative error which saw him remain as a trustee for NUMA up until February this year and if so what was his answer?Hon PEENI HENARE: My understanding is that administrative error has been corrected.