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Goodhew Jo: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Goodhew Jo: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2510. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon JO GOODHEW (Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector) 
 on behalf of the Minister for Social Development: I move  
That the Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill be now read a second time 
. This bill will set in place a fair and responsible framework for assessing a person’s assets to determine whether they are eligible for assistance through the residential care subsidy. Increasing the asset threshold by the change in the Consumers Price Index maintains the real value of the assets a resident is able to own for their own use including for bequests if that is their wish. It ensures sustainability of the residential care subsidy into the future. 
This bill amends the Social Security Act 1964 to change the amount of the annual increase in the applicable asset thresholds used in determining the amount residents in aged residential care are required to contribute to the costs of their care. Current increases of $10000 each year in the thresholds are replaced with Consumers Price Index indexation of the thresholds. The bill sets the thresholds for 1 July 2012 to 30 June 2013 to $213297 which is Threshold A and $116806 which is Threshold B respectively. Threshold B is the lower threshold excluding a person’s home and car. It also requires those amounts to be CPI-adjusted by Order in Council for each later year beginning on 1 July 2013. This bill also ensures that the thresholds will continue to operate and to be CPI-adjusted for each year beginning on 1 July after the close of 30 June 2026. 
I draw the attention of members opposite to the Beehive website—not difficult to find—where they will find a press release from the Hon Tony Ryall that sets out this particular measure. I am pleased to be able to bring this bill before the House today. I commend this bill to the House.
Vote: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Vote: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2510. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future. 
Noes 54 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 11; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bill read a first time.
Tisch Lindsay: Customs and Excise (Tobacco Products—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Tisch Lindsay: Customs and Excise (Tobacco Products—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2566. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Are there any further speakers? 
Gareth Hughes 
: Mr Speaker—  
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Well you are standing. I call Gareth Hughes.
Sabin Mike: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Sabin Mike: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2510. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MIKE SABIN (National—Northland) 
: 
 We have heard from previous members about our not having the fortitude to make strong decisions. I think that is exactly what this Budget has been about rather than the big pile of lolly scrambles and voter bribes that this nation got used to over the 9 years of the Labour Government’s tenure. This Budget is another good example of this Government’s priorities in action. It is responsibly managing the Government’s finances building a more competitive and productive economy delivering better public services and rebuilding Christchurch. What we have seen in the last 24 hours is a good example of what New Zealanders expect of this Government which is fortitude which is making the right decisions for the right time and not throwing a bunch of lollies out. 
The Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill is about sustainable management of long-term residential care. Members opposite know it and we know it but as usual it is oppose oppose oppose. This bill reflects the practice of this Government to responsibly manage the finances to responsibly manage our taxpayers’ dollars and to make sure that we can continue to afford the cost of residential care as our population ages. That is about having fortitude and making the right decisions for the right time. Clearly that is what sets us apart from our opposition. That is why when you look at the polls we have been about 20 points apart for the last 3 years. They look like a set of railway tracks—30 percent and 50 percent. They are a set of railway tracks. That is because the New Zealand public have woken up to the need to manage the Government’s finances for the day. That is what they are doing at home. 
We have also heard from the Labour benches that “It’s only $4 million here. It’s only a few million there.” Well a few million here and there soon adds up to a few billion here and there. Although the previous Government might have been happy to spend up large to buy its way back into power we make decisions that we know New Zealanders want need and deserve. That is about leadership. That is what this country expects. That is why we are on this side of the House. This is a good bill and I commend it to the House.
Goldsmith Paul: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
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Goldsmith Paul: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2489. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
PAUL GOLDSMITH (National) 
: 
 It was like wading through a pool of porridge listening to that previous speech. Aside from the grave and solemn speech of Dr Graham—and I thank him for it—we have had a lot of low-grade huffing and puffing from the other side of the House about this bill that there has not been enough excitement in this Budget. What do they want? Do they want dancing bears and whirling dervishes? The burden of the Opposition it seems to me is boiled down to “more”. They want more. Labour wants to have more State taxing and spending and Father Christmas distributing all his gifts. It is exactly that sort of pap that has got this country into the trouble we are in at the moment and it has taken 4 years for this Government to try to get us back to a more stable sensible and well-grounded Budget.  
The centrepiece of this Budget it seems to me is staying the course. We outlined a clear and sensible direction in the 2010 Budget. We got the tax settings of this country right in the 2010 Budget and now this Budget is about adjusting some of the areas to maintain the tax system and collect an extra $350 million over the next 4 years by tightening up a couple of loose loopholes. The three aspects we are dealing with here are livestock valuation rules tax credits that made sense a few decades ago but are no longer fit for purpose and cancelling the student loan repayment incentive which did not prove to be successful.  
Labour might be disappointed that there is not enough excitement and some of the media might be too but most New Zealanders are busy getting on with their lives getting on with it reducing their debts and being careful about spending. They know that that is what this Government is about and that is why they like it. That is why they are supporting this Government and I commend this bill for its third reading. Thank you.
Ngaro Alfred: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Ngaro Alfred: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2554. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
ALFRED NGARO (National) 
: 
 I also have another document here from the— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Hang on. What are these documents? What is the source of the documents? 
ALFRED NGARO 
: These documents are all available on the website but— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The member knows that we do not table documents that are readily available in the public domain.
Macindoe Tim: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Macindoe Tim: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2505. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West) 
: 
 What an extraordinary contribution we have just had from that member Denis O’Rourke. We have now got it on the record that New Zealand First does not want New Zealand to be back in surplus. That was one of his most memorable comments. Another one a quick question for Mr O’Rourke: which way did Winston Peters vote on the 1991 Budget—yes or no? Winston Peters—yes or no for the 1991 Budget? Those members are deafening in their inability to answer that question. The only thing that was getting worse and worse about that particular contribution was the member’s speech. 
Let us turn our attention to the Labour Party. We have had Kris Faafoi leading off telling us that the Labour Party will oppose this measure not because it cares about the policy in it but because it does not like the process. There was no engagement with the significant challenges that our rapidly escalating older population put before us and no engagement with any of the Budget at all—just saying “We don’t like the process.” Then we had Dr David Clark read to us at length what is in the Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill. In fact he read to us for such a long time that he forgot to tell us what he actually thought about it. When he was asked to state an opinion he came back with that old chestnut “We don’t like the process.” and he is still over there warbling away. He will not actually tell us what he thinks of the bill. Well I want to tell both Dr Clark and Mr Faafoi—and Mr O’Rourke for that matter—that there is nothing unusual at all about the fact that here we are in urgency the day after a Budget considering tax changes because actually that is what always happens. That is what Governments do. It even happened when the Labour Government was in power. But what was the one difference? The difference was that Labour was always pushing the taxes up and we are trying to do something a little better than that. 
This bill will create savings of nearly $35 million over a 4-year period which we will then reinvest in critical health care. It will quite sensibly ensure that from 1 July this year the Government can begin adjusting the asset threshold for rest home subsidies at the rate of inflation. Well what is wrong with that? Why would you not want to do that? This is responsible governing in very challenging times. It recognises our responsibility to respond to the rapid increase in our older population—and not just because New Zealand First is back in Parliament. It is an appropriate aspect of a Budget that I am proud to support and I encourage all the members opposite to change the habit of a lifetime and to support it because it makes sense.
Woodhouse Michael: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Woodhouse Michael: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2502. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National) 
: 
 I was not going to take a call yet in the first reading of the Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill but I do think that the call by Dr Clark warrants something of a response. After a very long commentary which sounded more like a political studies lecture Dr Clark said two things. Well he is a bit vexed. On the one hand he said families should have the ability to pass on assets through the generations but on the other hand he asked whether the State should really pay for the care of the elderly when that happens. Well that is a fair enough question to ask I think but Dr Clark needs to come off the fence and tell this House what he actually thinks. It is no longer enough to say “on the one hand and on the other hand”. MPs are required to hold a view. I look forward in the second reading to hearing what his view is about whether there should be one or the other. But it is actually consistent with the dollar-each-way mantra that Labour has about this.  
Remember when we removed the gifting regime last year because it was completely irrelevant and was not working. What Labour members did not tell you in opposition to that legislation was that about 7 years ago when they were passing regulations around the deprivation clauses in residential care subsidies they could not bring themselves to allow families to gift off $54000 to couples. That was not good enough for them. They had to make it $27000. They completely unhooked the residential care subsidy tests from the gifting policy. This was a stupid policy—stupid policy—but now it does not really matter because the gifting regime has gone. But I suggest to the party on the other side that it needs to stop sitting on the fence and tell this House what it really thinks about the regime overall because this change is actually a very sensible way of dealing with the increase.  
When house prices are flattening and going down an inflation adjustment will actually benefit those people in this system in the short run. What happens in the long run who knows. [ 
Interruption 
] Relative to the value of their properties—relative to the value of their properties. I reckon it is an excellent idea and I support it.
Robertson H V Ross: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Robertson H V Ross: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2501. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Before I call the next speaker can I just remind members on my right that when they yell across the Chamber “you” they are referring to me.
Robertson H V Ross: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Robertson H V Ross: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2499. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: As it is Samoan Language Week fa‘afetai lava.
Lotu-Iiga Sam: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Lotu-Iiga Sam: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2498. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA (National—Maungakiekie) 
: 
 Talofa lava in Samoan Language Week. I rise to support the Minister for Social Development in the first reading of this Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill. I want to thank the Minister who is sitting in front of me for bringing this bill into the House. I thank her for her courage her tenacity her fortitude. She is bringing not only welfare reforms to this House but this bill as well and that shows the vision and leadership of this Minister in what is one of the most difficult portfolio areas in Government. 
She referred to the Social Security Act 1964 and amending that Act to change the threshold levels. Mr Faafoi asked why we are doing that. Well he did not listen yesterday afternoon to the Budget speeches. The reason National is bringing these bills to the House is that we are acting responsibly in terms of managing this Government’s finances and delivering better public services in tight financial times. Why is it a priority Mr Faafoi? It is a priority because as we all know the demographics of New Zealand are changing and as demand for residential care services increases we need to meet that increased demand with prudence and with sustainable policies. So instead of annual increases the Consumers Price Index will set the threshold. We know that that is consistent with other indexed entitlements like national superannuation which is adjusted every year. 
It is also to cover up for some of the profligate policies of the last Labour Government in the early 2000s. It was looking for ways to spend money and it introduced $10000 annual increases in this threshold. Once again it is a bill that delivers on covering up the bad mismanagement of the last Labour Government. What will it do fiscally? Simply it will save just under $35 million over 4 years. Again that is a demonstration of this Government’s fiscal prudence and fiscal sustainability and it has been brought to this House because this Government is about driving our economy back on the road to recovery and back into surplus. I recommend this bill to the House.
Bennett Paula: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Bennett Paula: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2497. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 I move  
That the Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill be now read a first time. 
 This bill amends the Social Security Act 1964 to change the amount of the annual increases in the applicable asset thresholds used in determining the amount that residents in aged residential care are required to contribute to the cost of their care. Current increases of $10000 each year in the thresholds are replaced with Consumers Price Index indexation of the thresholds. If the resident’s assets are equal to or below the applicable asset threshold then they qualify for Government funding through the residential care subsidy to meet the cost of their care in a rest home or a continuing care hospital.  
This bill is a priority for this Government. It is an important piece of legislation that will ensure that the residential care subsidy is sustainable into the future particularly as demand for long-term residential care for older people increases. I am pleased to be able to present this bill here today. I commend this bill to the House.
Mitchell Mark: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
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Mitchell Mark: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2496. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) 
: 
 It is with great pleasure that I rise in support of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill and the Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill. I have to say that this was a great Budget and the reason why I know that it was a great Budget is that the only thing that Labour members have spoken about for the last day and a half is paper boys. If that is all that they can discuss if that is the only thing they can find to criticise in this Budget I know that it is a good Budget. 
But what interests me even more is that yesterday I saw the Rt Hon Winston Peters get up and he wailed on about this Budget and he went right back to 1991. So as a new member of Parliament I went away and I decided to pull out  
Hansard 
 and I— 
Hon Maurice Williamson 
: What happened?  
MARK MITCHELL 
: I will tell you what happened. I could not believe it. Mr Peters voted for every one of the measures in the 1991 Budget—every single one of those measures.  
Hon Members 
: Oh! 
MARK MITCHELL 
: I know but no it is true.  
Hon Maurice Williamson 
: Not Winston! 
MARK MITCHELL 
: Yes he did.  
Hon Maurice Williamson 
: He voted for every one?  
MARK MITCHELL 
: He did. He voted for every single measure in the 1991 Budget. So when Mr Peters gets up and starts criticising when he stands up with indignation he needs—he has got a very short memory—to go back and check the facts.  
What I am proud about with this Budget is that it is going to continue on with our proud track record of delivering better health services. Our country is safer today than it was 4 years ago and our economy is growing. When we came into Government we were facing never-ending deficits—that was what we inherited from the Labour Party. Now we are heading towards a surplus in 2014 and 2015. You have only to look around the world to see what is going on and to see that we—this Government—are doing everything right to keep New Zealand moving in the right direction. We will emerge as a stronger better and well-educated country. Thank you very much.
Barry Maggie: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
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Barry Maggie: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2493. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore) 
: 
 Well what an unedifying spectacle that speech from Kris Faafoi was. We heard a  
Star Trek 
 metaphor that actually was entirely appropriate coming as it did from an inhabitant of “Planet Labour”. We unlike Labour are able to plan and to boldly go where no one else has gone before where Labour could not possibly envisage going. Our Budget looks to try to invest in the future. It builds on the economy and it invests money in infrastructure that is going to deliver jobs—an alien concept to the people who inhabit “Planet Labour”. This of course is something we boldly address. We boldly go where Labour has never gone before. We are building a competitive economy. We are addressing the hard issues. We are not moving away into the shallow pool of nonsense headlines of an obsessive focus on paper boys and pickpocketing and all this other nonsense. I doubt very much whether from the combined intellectual rigour of our opponents they have even actually read the Budget or have actually listened to it. They are leaderless rudderless and they have no plan. They are indeed aliens and the  
Star Trek 
 metaphor I think is well chosen by them. 
Looking at what we are doing with Budget 2012 it invests heavily in infrastructure innovation and skills because we know that it is important to create a more productive and competitive economy that will give more jobs to people in this country. This is what we are doing. We have increased science and innovation funding right across government to more than $1.3 billion in this next 2-year period. We have put in $166 million extra to develop the new Advanced Technology Institute. These are the places where the growth in the economy will come from. We have put in $60 million extra for National Science Challenges. These are matters of substance. These are matters of substance that the people who dwell in the shallow troughs those on the opposing benches cannot possibly acknowledge. They do not want to go beyond the headline grabbing and the superficial. They are to be pitied and they are to be ignored.  
This legislation the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill and the Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill as I said last night in the two opportunities I had to address it does tidy up some mad old legislation that needs to be worked through. It makes the Inland Revenue Department a more streamlined and efficient organisation. It has been meticulously worked through. Some of the old obsolete taxes have gone. That needs to happen. This Government is focused on growth and on tidying up legislation and I commend these bills to the House. I think they are entirely worthwhile and the arguments put forward from the Opposition are superficial alien and facile. Thank you.
Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
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Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2491. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National) 
: 
 Sat sri akaal Mr Speaker. I stand to debate the third reading of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill and the Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill. This is omnibus legislation. It deals with the livestock evaluation rules and removes three tax credits. It ensures that everyone pays their fair share of taxes. It ensures that loopholes will be closed and tax credits updated which will create extra revenue over the next 4 years. The childcare and housekeepers’ tax credits have been replaced by Working for Families and 20 hours’ free early childhood education. They have been a major boost for families to elevate their incomes. Times have changed. Society has changed. The Government believes that its spending on the tax credits could be better directed to areas of higher need and that is what this bill is doing. I commend these bills to the House.
Hughes Gareth: Customs and Excise (Tobacco Products—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Hughes Gareth: Customs and Excise (Tobacco Products—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2566. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
GARETH HUGHES (Green) 
: 
 Kia ora Mr Speaker. I am going to take a very brief call. The Green Party supports a smoke-free nation. We think that increasing the price of tobacco is an important market signal. That is why we are voting for the Customs and Excise (Tobacco Products—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill tonight. Kia ora. 
Bill read a first time.  
Bill referred to the Finance and Expenditure Committee.
McClay Todd: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
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McClay Todd: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
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TODD McCLAY (National—Rotorua) 
: 
 I want to take only a brief call in this debate. But can I start by saying to the last speaker David Clark that his speech was factually morally and intellectually wrong on all counts. One day when we look back he will be judged on that.  
This was a Budget that was extremely important for New Zealanders at an extremely important time. It was full of hope and it was full of direction. It was delivered to help us get back on to an even footing so that we would not end up like the countries overseas that the members opposite seem to want us to be like so much. The Budget will do a number of things. It will reform some outdated tax credits. It will abolish some issues around herd valuations on farms. It will make some important—and I say important—changes to the student loan scheme. What this will do over 4 years is save $349 million for New Zealanders so that this Government can reinvest that in more productive areas of our economy. I say to the members opposite if they believe that we should not be passing this legislation and we should be borrowing that extra $349 million give up your seats get off the list get on the plane and go to Greece.
Lees-Galloway Iain: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Lees-Galloway Iain: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2513. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Labour—Palmerston North) 
: 
 I seek leave to table a document titled “Health receives largest increase in spending” embedded within which is a single-line reference— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Order! We first want to know the source of the document. 
IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY 
: The source is the Hon Tony Ryall. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Is this in the public domain? 
IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY 
: Well it is hard to tell. It is hard to tell. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Is this on a website? 
IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY 
: It is on a website. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Well we are not going to entertain that.
Roy Eric: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Roy Eric: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2522. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I call Dr David Clark. This is a split call?  
Dr David Clark 
: It is a 5-minute call. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Are the Greens seeking a call? Yes. A split call—5 minutes.
Dunne Peter: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
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Dunne Peter: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2483. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon PETER DUNNE (Minister of Revenue) 
 on behalf of the Minister of Finance: I move  
That the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill and the Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill be now read a third time 
. I will not delay the House unduly but can I just recap that the main points of these two bills are as follows. Firstly there is the repeal of tax credits for income under $9880 which was introduced as a transitional measure in 1986 and has long since ceased to serve its purpose and secondly the tax credit for childcare and housekeeper expenditure which dates back to Depression times—1933—and has even longer since ceased to be relevant to current circumstances.  
There is the introduction of transitional arrangements to manage the repeal of these credits by allowing employers time to update their payroll systems the replacement of the tax credit for the active income of children with a limited tax exemption—again this change is a transitional move put in place by Sir Robert Muldoon way back in 1978—legislation to enact the change announced in March this year to the livestock valuation rules and finally the repeal of the student loans voluntary repayment bonus. I should also point out that the detail of the livestock tax changes will be enacted separately later this year. 
 I need not report unduly from the Committee stage of the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill except to say that it was a robust exchange around predictable issues and I am not sure that any of the previously entrenched positions shifted at all during the course of the debate.  
As I close I do want to acknowledge the work of the officials from the Inland Revenue Department StudyLink and the Ministry of Education who have worked on this legislation over a period of time. I want to thank them for their diligence for their advice and also for the pretty rigorous way in which they examined all of the issues before us. I am pleased that the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill and the Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill are now going to proceed to their third readings. Once again I commend them to the House.
Vote: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2483. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 55 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
Bill reported without amendment. 
Report adopted.
Upston Louise: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — In Committee 
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Upston Louise: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2483. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
LOUISE UPSTON (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I seek leave to amend the votes for the Maori Party in the last two votes cast before this; they should be three instead of two. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Leave is sought. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? It appears not. Leave is granted.
Roy Eric: Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Good morning everybody. The sitting is resumed and the House is in Committee on the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill. The question is that Part 3 stand part. Chris Hipkins has the call; he has 4½ minutes remaining.
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[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2483. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 55 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Clause 2 agreed to.
Ngaro Alfred: Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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ALFRED NGARO (National) 
: 
 I seek leave of the House to add that document which is  
Changes to the Residential Care Subsidy asset threshold 
 from the Ministry of Health. 
Hon Annette King 
: It’s available on the website. 
ALFRED NGARO 
: It is? I am sorry Mr Speaker. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is not granted.
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[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2483. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 1 be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 55 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Clause 1 agreed to. 
The result corrected after originally being announced as Ayes 63 Noes 55.
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[Sitting date: 24 May 2012. Volume:680;Page:2482. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 3 be agreed to. 
Ayes 98 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 21 
Green Party 12; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Part 3 agreed to. 
The result corrected after originally being announced as Ayes 97 Noes 21.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I call the member Andrew Little—sorry Andrew Williams. Sorry it is an early morning.
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Hon PETER DUNNE (Minister of Revenue) 
 on behalf of the Minister of Finance: I move  
That the Committee divide the bill into the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill and the Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) 
Amendment Bill  
pursuant to Supplementary Order Paper 31.
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Hon TONY RYALL (Minister of Health) 
: 
 I wanted to come down to the House to acknowledge the fine stewardship of the Minister for Social Development throughout the consideration of this bill the Social Security (Long-term Residential Care—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill. This bill represents a slowing down in the increase of the asset-testing threshold in New Zealand. Instead of increasing it by $10000 a year and stopping it in 2026 which is what the existing legislation does this new legislation— 
Hon Annette King 
: Because it would have been phased out by then you silly man.  
Hon TONY RYALL 
: It does not get phased out if the increase is stopped in 2026. That is not a phase-out. What this legislation does is slow the increase right up into the future. The increases in the asset-testing thresholds are slower but the thresholds still continue to increase. Money is going to be raised from these increased asset-test thresholds and the real question the Opposition never asked is what that money is going to contribute to for helping older New Zealanders.  
I will tell you what it is going to contribute to over the next 4 years: rest home subsidies will increase by $47 million— 
Hon Members 
: How much? 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: There will be $47 million extra in rest home subsidies. On top of that we will be increasing dementia bed subsidies by $37 million over the next 4 years and home support services will increase by $40 million or so over the next 4 years. So there will be $47 million extra in rest home subsides $37 million extra in dementia bed subsidies and $40 million - plus more in home care services.  
This Government is making rest home care and home care priorities in investments and one of the ways that we are able to afford this extra investment for the older New Zealanders of this country is to slow the increase in asset-test thresholds. I agree with Minister Bennett; I think it is moderate it is sensible and it recognises the tough economic times our country is in and the demographic pressures. Of course information has been made available on the Ministry of Health website to assist people who are inquiring and Grey Power and Age Concern were briefed before the Budget yesterday to advise them of what was happening. I certainly commend this bill to the House.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Taxation (Budget Measures) Bill and the Student Loan Scheme (Budget Measures) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 53 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 10; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bills read a third time.
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MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 I seek leave for the Minister to move an earlier report-back date under Standing Order 286(1).
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Just before I call the next member I advise members of the House that this is a split call and the speakers will get a bell at 1 minute.
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MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 If I may clarify for the member the Maori Party is voting with the Government on procedural motions which the motion to put the vote was therefore they voted in favour of it but opposed the part. That may clarify why it was different.
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I am surprised that there might be any doubt about whether this should be debated. I will say to start with that I just want to accuse the Government of having a very short time span for what it wants to call legislation. I think it is not more than about 3 minutes ago that we had a vote where National members voted to call the Act the Crown Entities Reform Act 2011—I think that would have been changed to 2012—but now we discover they have changed their minds. They have changed their minds. They do not want to call it the Crown Entities Reform Act any more; they want to call it the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Act 2012 they want to call it the Mental Health Commission Amendment Act 2102 and they want to call it the— 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I sorry to interrupt the honourable member. The time has come for me to report progress. 
Progress to be reported presently. 
House resumed. 
The Chairperson reported progress on the Crown Entities Reform Bill no progress on the Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill and no progress on the Biosecurity Law Reform Bill. 
Report adopted.
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Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of State Services) 
: 
 I move  
That the Committee divide the bill into the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill the Mental Health Commission Amendment Bill and the Charities Amendment Bill  
pursuant to Supplementary Order 30 
. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Mr Chairman—
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 55 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: The vote just taken was 61 to 58— 
Denise Roche 
: The one before that. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: The one before that was 64 to 55. 
Denise Roche 
: I don’t think that’s right.
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DENISE ROCHE (Green) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. In the previous vote I was not clear about what the result was. Could you please say it again? I thought I had heard you say a different figure from what I added up.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 55 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to.
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KATRINA SHANKS (National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I understand that and I accept responsibility—my mistake. However having said that I have to decline the motion and I seek a call.