Boyack RachelRACHEL BOYACK (Labour—Nelson): Thank you Mr Chair—thank you. I appreciate the opportunity to take a call. I do want to note at the start of my call that some of the questions I'm going to ask are quite specific about the legislation and the reason I'm going to get quite specific about the legislation is that we don't have the select committee process and normally these are the types of questions that would actually be asked of officials.I just want to put on record my concern that I'm not sure if we're going to be able to get into that level of detail just because I've been listening to some of the Minister's answers and I'm concerned that we're not really getting into the detail of the bill. I have got some very specific questions and they relate back to some of the speeches I've observed from Government members earlier today in the debate and how I have witnessed the Māori Health Authority operate in my electorate. The specific question I have is: how is that going to change and be continued? And I have some really specific questions about some of the wording in the bill that I really would like some answers on because I'm hearing concerns from my electorate and I have some concerns.So just to give some context in some of the Government speeches earlier today including speeches from the Minister I heard comments that people felt the Māori Health Authority was a centralised process. I want to give an example from within my own electorate that will just set up and give the context for the questions I'm to ask because I think that context is really needed. So we have a Māori health provider across Te Tau Ihu—top of the South Island. It operates across Tasman Nelson and Marlborough and it's called Te Piki Oranga. They are an excellent established Māori health provider and I've taken a number of my colleagues there. I want to mihi to Anne Hobby and her workers there for the mahi that they do in the community.Now what Anne and her team have told me is that prior to the establishment of the Māori Health Authority they used to receive funding that went from the DHB through to the primary health organisation (PHO) and then through to them. There was a ticket clipping along the way and so essentially the money comes through the appropriation from health then to the DHB then to the PHO then to Te Piki Oranga to provide Māori health services. What they have told me—and it's not clear in the bill how this is going to continue which is my question that I'm going to get to shortly with the Minister—is that with the establishment of the Māori Health Authority they have received funding directly from the centre to their agency. It has not gone through that ticket-clipping exercise which having heard members opposite talk about bureaucracy I just find it quite ironic because we've actually stripped away that bureaucracy and got more money to the agency and we've got it there faster. So I'm going to get into the questions I have around the bill and how the Minister is going to explain through this legislation how that's going to continue.So I understand that clause 15 of the bill amends section 30 to reflect the transfer of certain functions from the Māori Health Authority to Health New Zealand. So when I read through that section of the bill—and this is my question to the Minister—in clause 15 where it says section 30 is amended it talks about in clause 14(4) In section 30(1)(f) replace "the activities of the Māori Health Authority" with "the hauora Māori activities of Health New Zealand." So my specific question is: what are the hauora Māori activities of Health New Zealand? How do they relate to the funding mechanism from the Māori Health Authority directly to providers like Te Piki Oranga? What is the operational expectation that the Minister has of how that will function in practice?These are really relevant questions and I again make the point that we don't have a select committee process. If I was sitting in a select committee process I'd be able to sit here and bounce back and forth question back and forth with officials. I cannot do that and it's actually really frustrating because we have a significant agency that receives funding. I am not clear from this legislation and from leading this part of the legislation—and I don't even know if this is the correct part of the legislation to read because we don't actually have anywhere near enough detail that we would ordinarily be provided at a select committee to be able to even know "Am I asking about the right section of the Act?"So I do expect more than a surface answer from the Minister about "Oh well we'll engage with this that and the other." I actually want a specific answer. How will funding to Māori health providers continue under the legislation that they are putting through urgency tonight? And I am going to come back to it if this question is not answered because it's really really important for my community to know how they are going to continue getting that funding without the ticket-clipping bureaucratic exercise that we had until the introduction of the Māori Health Authority. Thank you Mr Chair."