Bennett DavidHon DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East): Thank you Madam Chair. I'd just like to follow on from that very good speech. And yes the commencement date is the real issue here in this part of the debate. The title—well it can be anything really but the commencement date is the fact that we are going through urgency in this debate in committee and then we are looking at an immediate effective commencement date for the New Zealand community.I suggest that the request of the last speaker the Rt Hon David Carter is answered by the Minister as to what he has actually done to ensure that legally he's able to have that commencement come into force. Because I would hate to see a situation where these rules were applied to a situation in the near future and that member of the public then challenged the legitimacy of the rules because of this commencement time.Because there has been no public scrutiny of this bill—there has been no attempt or ability for the public to make their views known—legally would this then be seen as a breach of human rights the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act or other requirements that may be enabled or used by someone in a defending position should they actually be subject to these rules and wish to avoid them actually applying to them? So it would be important that the Minister has actually determined whether this commencement date—relative to a very short process in this House a matter of less than 24 hours for a bill to be passed which has such Draconian powers.You know the Search and Surveillance Bill was a bill that took a lot of debate in this House when it first went through. There was a lot of contention between Opposition and Government parties. It was something that the public was fully aware of—in the public arena. There was the ability for a process to determine the implications of that for the human rights and the privacy and property values of individual New Zealanders. We do not have that in this case.I just seek an assurance from the Minister that he has got the Crown Law Office to check this out to make sure that whatever they are doing today is actually going to be viable and that there would be no issue if someone thought to challenge the approach taken by a National Animal Identification and Tracing officer on the basis that this didn't go through a full and fair process.It is Draconian legislation in the sense of the search and surveillance that somebody may use if they are in a position of difficulty and wish to use that against the Minister. So it would be helpful if the Minister just clarified for this committee that he has done the necessary research to make sure that there is no problem in going ahead with the commencement date that is immediate and effective essentially as the last speaker said potentially from Monday.To the people out there in our communities that are listening they need to be aware of what this actually means as well because potentially from Monday they will be subject to these rules. And there may be some person that doesn't know that and then basically as that officer is driving up the road and coming into their farm doesn't think that they have to deliver that information or allow that search and surveillance. What will be the situation then because the commencement's immediate? How will the Minister be instructing his officials to act in this regard? Are they going to be instructed to probably have a little bit of leniency with people initially so that the word gets around you could say that this is of immediate effect and there are these powers that people had not perceived those officials having in the past? That would be something that the Minister probably needs to address as well as to how on the ground he actually intends to implement an immediate commencement date—whether he is expecting there to be leeway from his officials in regard to just genuine unawareness of certain farmers or certain landholders that may be captured by this legislation in the future. So it would be great if the Minister could address those two questions and explain to the committee.