Collins JudithHon JUDITH COLLINS (National—Papakura): Thank you Mr Speaker. I take a short call on this matter. This is unusual for a settlements bill because there is obviously an ongoing dispute essentially relating to whakapapa between Rangitāne and Ngāti Kahungunu and I take whakapapa very seriously having had my own disrespect in this House including my surname—my family name. I find it deeply offensive when people don't take that seriously so I understand that this is an ongoing and disturbing issue. I note also though that the deed of settlement was signed between Rangitāne and the Crown on 6 August 2016 and that the deed of settlement signed between Ngāti Kahungunu and the Crown was signed on 29 October 2021. Sometimes it is important to move on. It is important to be able to help people to be able to make the most of what there is and then to sort out the dispute that is still existing. I see that the Crown has worked long and hard to try and come to some sort of settlement between both parties. I think that it is actually a good thing that the Crown has tried very hard to do that and I know that the select committee has heard submissions for quite some time on this matter. It is however important that this matter is addressed and I'm sure that once the settlement bill goes through it will be easier for those who are concerned about some of the aspects to be able to deal with those whakapapa issues between themselves. I don't think it is possible for the Crown to adjudicate with the judgment of Solomon on these issues. It is simply not possible. I think it would be lovely if that was possible but I just know that the Crown will be accused of getting it wrong and I understand why they might not want to do so. It is simply too important. Some of the cultural redress provided to Ngāti Kahungunu and Rangitāne includes provision of an overlay classification over Castlepoint Scenic Reserve and provision for the making of regulations for the management of customary fishing in Wairarapa Moana and the river catchment and it is important that these matters be addressed. I think it's time for some of these big settlements to be completed it's time for people to be able to know where they stand and it's time for the iwi to be able to get on with their job of providing not only for their people of today but the people of tomorrow for family and for grandchildren. As to the issue itself as I said it's unusual for this matter to come to the House. The National Party had some approaches from Rangitāne about this and I know that some of our colleagues met with the Minister earlier today to address and to raise some of those issues. The decision was essentially that there was no way that we could bring this matter to a better conclusion than to ask both parties to be able to sort it out. It is simply not going to happen and so I think that's really the best that we can do. I think the fact that one settlement deed was signed under a National-led Government and the second was signed under a Labour Government probably tends to indicate that this has been taking quite a long time and before that no doubt decades of grievance and it's time for us to be able to draw a line in the sand.