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Tabling of Documents — Electoral Matters Bill Supplementary Order Paper 
Tabling of Documents — Electoral Matters Bill Supplementary Order Paper 
[Volume:621;Page:16447] 
Tabling of Documents 
Electoral Matters Bill Supplementary Order Paper 
GERRY BROWNLEE (Deputy Leader—National) 
: 
 I seek leave to table a document known as PCO5571a/4—[ 
Interruption 
] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Could you please repeat that. I did not hear it because there was noise made. I am about to send some people out for the afternoon. 
GERRY BROWNLEE 
: I seek leave to table a document known as PCO5571a/4. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave has been sought. Does the member want to give any further details about it? Leave has been declined. 
GERRY BROWNLEE 
: I will try again. I seek leave to table a Supplementary Order Paper on the Electoral Matters Bill known as PCO5571a/4. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that. Is there any objection? There is.
Cullen Michael: Legislation (Incorporation by Reference) Bill — Instruction to Committee Second Reading Instruction to Committee Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Cullen Michael: Legislation (Incorporation by Reference) Bill — Instruction to Committee Second Reading Instruction to Committee Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:625;Page:19792] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 In order to facilitate the debate on this second reading which will cover matters that at the moment are not part of the bill I seek leave that it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the Legislation (Incorporation by Reference) Bill that it have the power to consider and if it thinks fit adopt the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 361. We are seeking leave now that the Committee can consider the Supplementary Order Paper to enable the House to include those amendments in its consideration of the second reading. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is.
Vote: Debate on Crown Entities Public Organisations  and State Enterprises — In Committee 
Vote: Debate on Crown Entities Public Organisations  and State Enterprises — In Committee 
[Volume:626;Page:21331] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the reports of the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee on the 2003-04 financial reviews of the Civil Aviation Authority the Land Transport Safety Authority of New Zealand the Maritime Safety Authority of New Zealand Transfund New Zealand Transit New Zealand and the Transport Accident Investigation Commission be noted. 
Ayes 70 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 47 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7. 
Reports noted.
Vote: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Vote: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:612;Page:9373] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 9 
Green Party 9. 
Noes 108 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Hartley Ann: Maori Television Service (Te Aratuku Whakaata Irirangi Maori) Bill — Third Reading 
Hartley Ann: Maori Television Service (Te Aratuku Whakaata Irirangi Maori) Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:608;Page:5290] 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Yes we have to continue that vote. I will now put—[ 
Interruption 
] No I have dealt with the point of order. There is nothing that has been dealt with outside the Standing Orders and I have dealt with—
Dunne Peter: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Dunne Peter: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:608;Page:5545] 
Hon PETER DUNNE (Leader—United Future) 
: 
 I raise a further point of order Mr Speaker. I would like some explanation about why a simple question asking whether the Government is satisfied with a situation is not in order. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The fact of the matter is that the Minister who is asked the question does not have responsibility for the current level of democracy in Tonga. 
Hon PETER DUNNE 
: But he does have responsibility— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: No he does not. Tonga is an independent country. But that is irrelevant because we are now allowing the member to ask the question. 
Hon PETER DUNNE 
: Speaking further to the point of order I say that it is not irrelevant because the Minister does have responsibility for the view of the New Zealand Government on whether a situation is satisfactory. If we are going to end up splitting straws over this type of process when members are seeking to ask questions then frankly our question process will be reduced to the farcical. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Let me say that I always respect the member’s points of order because he rarely raises them and they are all usually of some substance. I will have a look at this matter but now that the House has decided to give him the opportunity I will allow him to ask the question and I will have another look at the point he raises.
Vote: Prostitution Reform Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Prostitution Reform Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:609;Page:6193] 
A personal vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
Barker (P) 
Donald (P) 
Hughes 
Simich (P) 
Barnett 
Duncan (P) 
Hunt (P) 
Smith L 
Benson-Pope 
Dyson (P) 
Kedgley (P) 
Sowry 
Beyer 
Ewen-Street (P) 
Kelly (P) 
Sutton (P) 
Bradford 
Fairbrother (P) 
King 
Swain (P) 
Brash (P) 
Fitzsimons (P) 
Laban (P) 
Tamihere (P) 
Burton (P) 
Gallagher 
Locke (P) 
Tanczos 
Carter C (P) 
Goff (P) 
Maharey (P) 
Tizard (P) 
Carter D (P) 
Gosche 
Mallard (P) 
Turei (P) 
Chadwick 
Hartley 
O’Connor (P) 
Turia (P) 
Choudhary (P) 
Hawkins (P) 
Okeroa 
Ward (P) 
Clark (P) 
Hereora 
Parker 
Williamson (P) 
Cosgrove (P) 
Hide (P) 
Peck (P) 
Cullen (P) 
Hobbs (P) 
Pillay (P) 
Cunliffe (P) 
Hodgson (P) 
Ririnui (P) 
Teller: 
Dalziel (P) 
Horomia (P) 
Samuels (P) 
Pettis 
Noes 55 
Adams 
Dunne (P) 
Mapp 
Ryall 
Alexander 
Duynhoven 
Mark 
Scott (P) 
Anderton (P)  
Eckhoff (P) 
McNair (P) 
Shirley (P) 
Ardern (P) 
English (P) 
Newman (P) 
Smith N 
Awatere Huata 
Field (P) 
Ogilvy 
Stewart (P) 
Baldock  
Franks 
Paraone (P)  
Te Heuheu 
Brown (P)  
Goudie 
Perry (P) 
Tisch (P) 
Brownlee (P) 
Gudgeon (P) 
Peters J (P) 
Turner 
Carter D (P) 
Heatley (P)  
Peters W (P) 
Wong (P) 
Catchpole 
Hutchison 
Power (P) 
Woolerton (P) 
Coddington (P) 
Jones (P) 
Prebble (P) 
Worth (P) 
Connell (P) 
Key (P) 
Robertson 
Yates 
Copeland 
Mackey (P) 
Robson (P) 
Teller: 
Donnelly (P) 
Mahuta (P) 
Roy 
Smith M 
Amendments agreed to. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: As a result of those amendments being agreed to the amendment that we will come to later in the name of Gordon Copeland will be out of order. 
We now come to an amendment in the name of Stephen Franks on Supplementary Order Paper 71 omitting Part 3 which provided for a review of operation of the Act for regulations and for repeal of provisions relating to the Crimes Act the Massage Parlours Act and the Summary Offences Act. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 71 in the name of Stephen Franks to omit Part 3 be agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Symphony Orchestra Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: New Zealand Symphony Orchestra Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:616;Page:12313] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 71 
New Zealand Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 48 
New Zealand National 26; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Motion agreed to.
Rich Katherine: Maori Television Service Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled 
Rich Katherine: Maori Television Service Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled 
[Volume:607;Page:4992] 
KATHERINE RICH (NZ National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. I seek your guidance on an issue. It is noted in the commentary on the bill that there is a difference between the Maori translation and the English version of the preamble that we are debating. Knowing the trouble we get into when it comes to Treaty of Waitangi issues when there are differences between the Maori version and the English version I wonder whether it would be appropriate to ask for a translation of the Maori version so that the Opposition members of the Committee can see before they vote on the preamble where the differences are. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: I am advised that the translation has already been given and agreed to. The Maori translation on pages 4 and 5 has been struck out but the translation on pages 2 and 3 has been agreed to. 
KATHERINE RICH 
: In that case though the commentary on the bill quite clearly states that there is an outstanding debate about the translation we are debating and that one of the groups that submitted its version of the translation was quite unhappy about the version used in the preamble. That raises concerns on the Opposition side of the Chamber because we are not clear about what we will be voting on or what the differences are between the English and Maori versions. We do know that one version is not a totally accurate reflection of the other—or actually we do not know that until we hear a translation.
Adams Paul: Statutes Amendment Bill (No 4) — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Adams Paul: Statutes Amendment Bill (No 4) — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:625;Page:20390] 
PAUL ADAMS (United Future) 
: 
 United Future will be objecting to clause 67 in this part concerning the requirement to supply a supplier information notice card (SIN card). Traditionally when a transaction has happened between motor traders it has been accepted that a SIN card has not been required. Therefore we have no problems with anything in the bill except when we come to section 14 (1A)(b) and (c) in clause 67 because now we have the case whereby a motor trader that may be an insurance company—in fact the request for this provision came from an insurance company—sells a vehicle that is still registered to a wrecker the insurance company maintains that it causes extra compliance costs for the trader to have to provide the SIN card. 
But the problem we have is that we are fostering another great black hole for the recycling of cars that have been substantially damaged or written-off without having any checks and balances on their repair. For example if an imported motor vehicle comes across the wharf and has any form of damage that vehicle is flagged. It is not that the vehicle cannot be repaired because it can be repaired but it must go through the correct process and have engineers’ reports etc. depending on the damage before it is called “complied” and issued with an MR2A form to allow it to be registered. An insurance company that is also a motor trader does not have to supply a SIN card under the current regulations provided that the vehicle is deregistered. If a vehicle is deregistered sold to a motor wrecker then purchased by somebody who decides to repair that vehicle it can be repaired. But again it must go through the correct procedure to make sure all the repairs are done correctly before it is reissued with an MR2A form and comes on to the market as a reregistered vehicle. 
Unfortunately paragraphs (b) and (c) allow insurance companies to sell damaged cars while maintaining their registration. Therefore nothing stops those cars from being repaired without any checks and balances then being sold to the unsuspecting public as cars that have been substantially damaged and repaired in New Zealand. 
United Future supports the idea that a transaction from motor trader to motor trader should not need to have a SIN card. However we do not accept that in the case of a trader that is selling as in paragraphs (b) and (c) to somebody with a licence granted under the Secondhand Dealers Act or the Secondhand Dealers and Pawnbrokers Act “who buys in the course of that person’s business as a secondhand dealer motor vehicles for wrecking or dismantling by that person;” because we maintain that is just another step in the process to allow cars to be recycled. 
So we welcome the new Motor Vehicle Sales Act coming up for review but we also flag the significant concerns in the industry over the SIN card issue. This would be a retrograde step a bad step and an indication in the wrong direction so United Future will be objecting to clause 67.
Baldock Larry: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Transitional Provisions and Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Baldock Larry: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Transitional Provisions and Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:613;Page:10132] 
LARRY BALDOCK (United Future) 
: 
 The member who spoke before me gave us a very interesting and eloquent speech. I think it would have been more appropriate on the New Organisms and Other Matters Bill which we have passed as although the title of this bill is the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Transitional Provisions and Controls) Amendment Bill it really does deal with hazardous substances not new organisms. I think it is stretching it a little to suggest that genetically modified organisms are hazardous substances. 
 The bill deals with the hazardous substances component of the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act and it is largely technical in nature. It amends the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act in order to facilitate the transfer of hazardous substances from a transitional control regime to the official Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act control regime. 
The bill includes amendments that will implement recommendations from the hazardous substances strategy to address areas where the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act as enacted was not working efficiently. This will provide for a smooth transition between the two regimes and enable cost-effective controls to be assigned to all hazardous substances. The Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act was passed in 1996 but a long transition period has been needed due to the large number and complexity of hazardous substances registered in New Zealand. It is important for the new regime to be sufficiently robust to keep track of all hazardous substances used in New Zealand because of the very real risk they pose to the environment if used improperly. 
The cost-effectiveness of the controls is also important because many of these substances are used in manufacturing and agriculture and could therefore result in significant extra compliance costs and barriers to innovation for New Zealand businesses if the regulatory regime is unnecessarily cumbersome. The controls the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act places on hazardous substances include labelling packaging and storage requirements as well as requirements for licensing regimes and because of its very common-sense and practical nature United Future is pleased to support its first reading and see it go to a select committee.
Cullen Michael: Debate on Crown Entities Public Organisations and State Enterprises — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Cullen Michael: Debate on Crown Entities Public Organisations and State Enterprises — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:617;Page:13234] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I did not realise that we had this situation. I wonder whether we could recall the Speaker now because I am advised we need to seek leave in the House for those reports to be debated. I am quite happy for leave to be taken but we cannot take leave in the Committee. So we need to go back into the House if that is possible. 
John Carter 
: If the Speaker could be recalled now. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: We will recall Mr Speaker. 
House resumed.
Sutton Jim: Tariff (New Zealand - Thailand Closer Economic Partnership) Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Sutton Jim: Tariff (New Zealand - Thailand Closer Economic Partnership) Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:21397] 
Hon JIM SUTTON (Minister for Trade Negotiations) 
: 
 I move  
That it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the Tariff (New Zealand - Thailand Closer Economic Partnership) Bill that it take the bill part by part.
Vote: Land Transport Management Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Vote: Land Transport Management Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:613;Page:9676] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Noes 46 
New Zealand National 25; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 165 in the name of the Hon Paul Swain to Part 1 be agreed to.
Hunt Jonathan: Obituaries — Hon Philip North Holloway CMG 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Hunt Jonathan: Obituaries — Hon Philip North Holloway CMG 
[Sitting date: 10 June 2003. Volume:609;Page:6037. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I regret to inform the House of the death on 28 May 2003 of the Hon Philip North Holloway CMG who represented the electorate of Heretaunga from 1954 to 1960. He was Minister of Industries and Commerce from 1957 to 1960. I desire on behalf of this House to express our sense of the loss we have sustained and our sympathies with the relatives of the late former member. I now ask members to stand with me and observe a minute of silence as a mark of respect for his memory. 
Honourable members stood as a mark of respect.
Vote: Families Commission Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Procedure 
Vote: Families Commission Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:614;Page:10295] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 1 be agreed to. 
Ayes 60 
New Zealand Labour 52; United Future 8. 
Noes 58 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Clause 1 agreed to.
McNair Craig: Relationships (Statutory References) Bill — In Committee 
McNair Craig: Relationships (Statutory References) Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:624;Page:19095] 
CRAIG McNAIR (NZ First) 
:  
In speaking to Part 2 of the Relationships (Statutory References) Bill I say to the Committee that the Labour Government which is passing this legislation tonight should be upfront. It should be upfront not only with this Committee but also with the people of New Zealand and I make that challenge to it. Labour members should be honest with the people of New Zealand and tell them that this is not the final objective in the Government’s long list of social engineering objectives but is just the beginning. This is just the start. A Labour member over there is screwing up her face but she knows that is true. The Government should be honest with the people of New Zealand and this Committee and should say what its real agenda is. The Government whatever its plan is should at least be honest with the people of New Zealand. It should say that last year it passed a gay marriages bill—basically “civil union” is the same thing—and the Prostitution Reform Bill and now it is passing the Relationships (Statutory References) Bill. 
 That has all happened at the same time as the Government is being kept afloat by United Future which campaigned on the basis of family values as one of my respected colleagues always says. He says that United Future is not just the family party but is the Clayton’s family party. The United Future members say they stand for families but when it comes down to actually standing for policies that support traditional family values they are not there. They tell this Parliament that they will continue to vote for this Government and keep it afloat right up to the next election. That is what they say and that is what they are doing. United Future puts advertisements in the newspapers week in week out month in month out stating that it stands for family values when the leader and the deputy leader who are pictured in those advertisements— 
Murray Smith 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. We can take a little bit of criticism of United Future but for the member to devote his whole speech to such criticism is way beyond the scope of this bill. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Yes. 
CRAIG McNAIR 
: I am speaking to this part and in particular I am speaking to clause 93 as far as the interpretation of the bill is concerned. I just want to say before I specifically get on to another clause of the bill that before I was interrupted I was saying that one has the leader and the deputy leader of United Future shown on those advertisements as standing for family values but both of them voted for the first reading of this bill. 
I say that when we are debating a bill such as this and speaking to parts such as Part 2 we should be upfront and honest with the people of New Zealand and say that they are implementing clauses 92A 93 94 95 and 96 but that we have other intentions as well. The point I am making is that the parties that support this Government should be upfront and honest with the people of New Zealand.
Smith Nick: Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading 
Smith Nick: Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading 
[Volume:607;Page:4302] 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH (NZ National—Nelson) 
: 
 My colleague Mr David Cunliffe made several references to the report of the select committee. I seek the leave of the House to debate the report of the Local Government and Environment Committee on the Resource Management Amendment Bill.
Vote: Television New Zealand Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Television New Zealand Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:606;Page:3823] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 56 
Noes 60 
Amendment not agreed to. 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; Green Party 8. 
Labour 52; United Future 8. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 57 in the name of the Hon Steve Maharey to Part 4 be agreed to.
Cullen Michael: Business Statement 
Cullen Michael: Business Statement 
[Volume:617;Page:12703] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 It is the Government’s intention to introduce the Civil Union Bill along with the consistency legislation at the same time. That may be done during this May period or it may be done during the June period.
Hunt Jonathan: Points of Order — Privilege—Hon Harry Duynhoven 
Hunt Jonathan: Points of Order — Privilege—Hon Harry Duynhoven 
[Volume:610;Page:7292] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I take direction from the House only when it changes the law. I will uphold the law.
Vote: Border Security Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Border Security Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:618;Page:13749] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 2 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 54 
New Zealand National 26; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; United Future 8. 
Clause 2 as amended agreed to. 
The Committee divided the bill into the Customs and Excise Amendment Bill and the Immigration Amendment Bill pursuant to Supplementary Order Paper 219.
Burton Mark: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) — Third Reading 
Burton Mark: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) — Third Reading 
[Volume:619;Page:15275] 
Hon MARK BURTON (Minister of Defence) 
: 
 What is required is the protection of our quality natural environments for future generations while working in partnership with the sector to reasonably address its commercial and recreational needs. That is what leadership is about that is what was required and that is what this Government has done.
Wilson Margaret: Supreme Court Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Wilson Margaret: Supreme Court Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:612;Page:9034] 
Hon MARGARET WILSON (Attorney-General) 
: 
 Part 2 deals with very important provisions although it is only a short part of nine provisions dealing with repeals amendments and transitional arrangements. I just want to draw the Committee’s attention to that fact and to congratulate the select committee again on its consideration of the bill and also on ensuring that there would be preservation of the ability to appeal to the Privy Council in the case of decisions that are delivered by the Court of Appeal after the commencement of the legislation. I think that is an admirable addition to the bill because it puts beyond doubt that all matters that are currently there will in fact be attended to in a timely fashion. 
The second matter has been referred to by Mr Smith and that was the concerns that were expressed in terms of giving sufficient time for the introduction of the running of the new Supreme Court. That is why the provisions are there in the Supplementary Order Paper to make it clear that while the Act comes into force on 1 January 2004 which puts beyond doubt that that is the date it comes into force it also provides—sensibly I think—that the first cases will not be heard before 1 July although matters relating to applications etc. may well be. 
So those amendments and some other small technical amendments particularly to the schedules to ensure that we have covered all the consequentials are contained within the legislation. As I said of course I am interested in those who talk to the matters in the bill or to the amendments. 
Progress reported.
Vote: Civil Union Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Vote: Civil Union Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:622;Page:17486] 
A personal vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 47 
Adams 
Eckhoff 
Perry 
Tisch 
Alexander(P) 
English 
Peters J(P) 
Turia(P) 
Baldock 
Franks 
Peters W 
Turner(P) 
Brash(P) 
Gudgeon 
Power 
Wang 
Brown 
Heatley(P) 
Prebble 
Williamson 
Carter D(P) 
Hutchison 
Roy 
Woolerton(P) 
Carter J(P) 
Jones 
Ryall(P) 
Worth(P) 
Catchpole(P) 
Key(P) 
Scott(P) 
Coddington(P) 
Mapp(P) 
Shirley 
Collins(P) 
McNair 
Smith L(P) 
Connell(P) 
Newman 
Smith M 
Copeland 
Ogilvy(P) 
Stewart(P) 
Teller: 
Dunne(P) 
Paraone(P) 
te Heuheu(P) 
Smith N 
Noes 72 
Anderton(P) 
Duynhoven(P) 
Kedgley(P) 
Robson(P) 
Ardern(P) 
Dyson(P) 
King(P) 
Samuels(P) 
Barker 
Ewen-Street 
Laban(P) 
Simich 
Barnett 
Fairbrother 
Locke 
Sowry(P) 
Benson-Pope 
Field(P) 
Mackey J(P) 
Sutton(P) 
Beyer(P) 
Fitzsimons(P) 
Mackey M(P) 
Swain(P) 
Bradford(P) 
Gallagher(P) 
Maharey(P) 
Tamihere(P) 
Brownlee(P) 
Goff 
Mahuta(P) 
Tanczos 
Burton(P) 
Gosche(P) 
Mallard(P) 
Tizard (P) 
Carter C(P) 
Goudie(P) 
Mark(P) 
Turei(P) 
Chadwick 
Hartley(P) 
McCully(P) 
Ward(P) 
Choudhary(P) 
Hawkins 
O’Connor(P) 
Wilson(P) 
Clark(P) 
Hereora(P) 
Okeroa(P) 
Wong(P) 
Cosgrove(P) 
Hide(P) 
Parker(P) 
Yates 
Cullen 
Hobbs 
Peck 
Cunliffe(P) 
Hodgson(P) 
Pillay 
Dalziel 
Horomia(P) 
Rich(P) 
Donald(P) 
Hughes 
Ririnui(P) 
Teller: 
Duncan 
Hunt(P) 
Robertson 
Pettis 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 314 in the name of Richard Worth to clause 4 be agreed to: 
to omit the definitions of  
civil union celebrant exempt body licence 
 and  
prohibited degrees of civil union 
.
Vote: Judicial Matters Bill — In Committee Procedure 
Vote: Judicial Matters Bill — In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:617;Page:12896] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand Labour 52; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand National 26; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Clause 2 agreed to.
Hunt Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers  
Hunt Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers  
[Volume:615;Page:11008] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The House changed its own rules a few years ago to allow hypothetical questions. I have to adhere to the Standing Orders. The first part of the question can be asked and that is where it will end.
Beyer Georgina: Maori Television Service Bill — In Committee 
Beyer Georgina: Maori Television Service Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:607;Page:5011] 
GEORGINA BEYER (NZ Labour—Wairarapa) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Dunne Peter: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
Dunne Peter: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:613;Page:9986] 
Hon PETER DUNNE (Leader—United Future) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I do not want to delay other speakers but I wish to raise a point of order that is occasioned largely by the speech that you have just been so complimentary about. I would have been equally complimentary about it. The point of order is that the member raised some very valid technical points. I notice that there are no officials actually present to offer advice to the sponsor of the bill or the Associate Minister who I saw was around here a moment or two ago on matters of this nature. I wonder how we can therefore seriously give consideration to matters such as Mr Worth has posed—and Mr Hide—relating to various technical provisions of the Act if the sponsor of the bill has no professional advice to back her up—or does she simply know it all? 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: I thank the member for raising that issue. That matter is of course entirely up to the member in the chair Steve Chadwick but I thank the member raising it.
Vote: Sale of Liquor Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Sale of Liquor Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:616;Page:12361] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 35 
New Zealand National 26; ACT New Zealand 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 84 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 198 in the name of the Hon Rick Barker to clauses 9 and 14 and the following amendments in his name to clause 2 be agreed to. 
to insert before subclause (1AA) the following subclause: 
(1AAA)Section 5 and section 4 (so far as it relates to section 5) come into force on 1 April 2005; and 
to amend clause 2(3) by omitting the words “1 April 2004” and substituting the words “the day after the date on which it receives the Royal assent”. 
Hon Dr Michael Cullen 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I seek leave that we have a split party vote on this vote. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Leave has been sought— 
John Carter 
: We already have leave. 
Hon Rick Barker 
: But you don’t have leave to do so. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Yes. 
Hon Rick Barker 
: But only on the other one. 
John Carter 
: I sought leave at the end of the second reading for our party votes to be taken as split party votes right through this voting and leave was granted. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: I thought the member had so I thank him. I call for a split party vote.
Locke Keith: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Locke Keith: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:612;Page:9376] 
KEITH LOCKE (Green) 
: 
 I want to very briefly reply to Ron Mark but I thought I explained it before. This problem often confronts MPs and I am sure that Mr Mark has confronted it before. It is that a bill has a part that has some very good stuff in it and some very bad stuff in it and members can have an argument voting for or against. In this case I thought that the powers of customs to seize materials from people who were not yet designated terrorists was a bad part of Part 2 so on behalf of the Green Party I voted against that. However all along we said that we supported the good parts. That is one of the positive things about the passage of this bill—it has some good material in it even if there is a lot of bad material and we support the good material that has come through the process. It is very simple. 
Schedules agreed to. 
The Committee divided the bill into the Crimes Amendment Bill the Terrorism Suppression Amendment Bill the Misuse of Drugs Amendment Bill (No 2) the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service Amendment Bill the Sentencing Amendment Bill and the Summary Proceedings Amendment Bill pursuant to Supplementary Order Paper 163 divided into the <Bill Titles> 
Bill reported with amendment.
Fairbrother Russell: Copyright (Parallel Importation of Films and Onus of Proof) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Fairbrother Russell: Copyright (Parallel Importation of Films and Onus of Proof) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:607;Page:4654] 
RUSSELL FAIRBROTHER (NZ Labour—Napier) 
: 
 I am pleased to support this bill. It meets a commitment made by the Labour-led Government in 1999 and it follows a very extensive review and consultation process. The bill is in the hands of my very good friend the Hon Judith Tizard and I commend it to the House.
Swain Paul: Taxation (Annual Rates Maori Organisations Taxpayer Compliance and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Swain Paul: Taxation (Annual Rates Maori Organisations Taxpayer Compliance and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:606;Page:4097] 
Hon PAUL SWAIN (Associate Minister of Finance) 
: 
 I will answer very quickly the questions asked by Dr the Hon Lockwood Smith and keep them in the same order as in the bill. First as he rightly said the superyacht one was the date of the announcement by the Government. Second the accreditation period to register as PAYE intermediaries is to apply from the pay periods after 1 April 2004 which is the tax date. Third fixing up the area of previous legislation: that is the date to which the previous legislation applies. Fourth as he rightly points out that is the beginning of the tax year; fifth the issues related to GST and telecommunications: those were the agreed dates with the industry.
Shirley Ken: Points of Order — Questions for Written Answer 
Shirley Ken: Points of Order — Questions for Written Answer 
[Volume:607;Page:4140] 
Hon KEN SHIRLEY (Deputy Leader—ACT NZ) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I have 16 written questions addressed to the Minister of Defence which were due yesterday and 5 minutes ago they were still not in my office. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: That will be investigated immediately. I will report to the member.
Barker Rick: Statutes Amendment Bill (No 4) — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Barker Rick: Statutes Amendment Bill (No 4) — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:625;Page:20388] 
Hon RICK BARKER (Associate Minister of Justice) 
: 
 The honourable member Dail Jones is exactly correct: Supplementary Order Paper 349 is on the Table. It has been agreed to by the Standing Orders Committee and discussed with the Clerk and there is unanimity. One small contextual change has been made to the Supplementary Order Paper and there is an amendment in my name on the Table to that effect. If people look at section 20(1)(a) substituted in clause 6C they will see a semicolon and the word “but”. The amendment deletes the semicolon and the word “but” and replaces them with a colon. That has been agreed to and I understand that with the inclusion of this amendment there is now unanimity on that particular provision. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Rick Barker to proposed new clause 6C set out on Supplementary Order Paper 349 in his name be agreed to: 
to omit from paragraph (a) in section 20(1) theword “; but” and substitute the expression “:”. 
Amendment to the amendment agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment as amended set out on Supplementary Order Paper 349 in the name of the Hon Rick Barker to Part 2A be agreed to. 
Amendment as amended agreed to and Part 2A as amended agreed to.
Points of Order — Donna Awatere Huata 
Points of Order — Donna Awatere Huata 
[Volume:606;Page:3257] 
Points of Order 
Donna Awatere Huata 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. You have mentioned the position in respect of the ACT party in this House. I would be curious to know whether we have a chance to reflect upon what you have said and to revisit it with you. It is a simple matter. This is the first day of the House’s sitting. You have given a ruling—or it sounds like a ruling—from the very start. There was a part of it that from my own experience I personally could not agree with. We would therefore like to raise the matter with you at another time—and would like to know whether it is still open for that to happen.  
Mr SPEAKER 
: I am quite happy for members to reflect on anything I say and for them to come and see me at any time about anything I have said.
Vote: Civil Union Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Vote: Civil Union Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:622;Page:17487] 
A personal vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 47 
Adams 
Eckhoff 
Perry 
Tisch 
Alexander(P) 
English 
Peters J(P) 
Turia(P) 
Baldock 
Franks 
Peters W(P) 
Turner(P) 
Brash 
Gudgeon 
Power(P) 
Wang 
Brown 
Heatley 
Prebble 
Williamson 
Carter D(P) 
Hutchison 
Roy 
Woolerton(P) 
Carter J(P) 
Jones 
Ryall(P) 
Worth 
Catchpole 
Key(P) 
Scott(P) 
Coddington(P) 
Mapp(P) 
Shirley 
Collins(P) 
McNair 
Smith L(P) 
Connell(P) 
Newman(P) 
Smith M 
Copeland 
Ogilvy(P) 
Stewart(P) 
Teller: 
Dunne(P) 
Paraone(P) 
te Heuheu(P) 
Smith N 
Noes 72 
Anderton(P) 
Duynhoven(P) 
Kedgley(P) 
Robson(P) 
Ardern(P) 
Dyson(P) 
King(P) 
Samuels(P) 
Barker 
Ewen-Street(P) 
Laban(P) 
Simich(P) 
Barnett 
Fairbrother 
Locke(P) 
Sowry(P) 
Benson-Pope 
Field(P) 
Mackey J(P) 
Sutton(P) 
Beyer(P) 
Fitzsimons(P) 
Mackey M(P) 
Swain(P) 
Bradford(P) 
Gallagher(P) 
Maharey(P) 
Tamihere(P) 
Brownlee(P) 
Goff(P) 
Mahuta(P) 
Tanczos 
Burton(P) 
Gosche(P) 
Mallard(P) 
Tizard(P) 
Carter C(P) 
Goudie(P) 
Mark(P) 
Turei(P) 
Chadwick 
Hartley(P) 
McCully(P) 
Ward(P) 
Choudhary(P) 
Hawkins 
O’Connor(P) 
Wilson(P) 
Clark(P) 
Hereora(P) 
Okeroa(P) 
Wong(P) 
Cosgrove(P) 
Hide(P) 
Parker(P) 
Yates(P) 
Cullen 
Hobbs(P) 
Peck(P) 
Cunliffe(P) 
Hodgson(P) 
Pillay 
Dalziel 
Horomia(P) 
Rich(P) 
Donald(P) 
Hughes 
Ririnui(P) 
Teller: 
Duncan 
Hunt(P) 
Robertson(P) 
Pettis
Anderton Jim: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Anderton Jim: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:608;Page:5443] 
Hon JIM ANDERTON (Acting Minister of Customs) 
: 
 If the member had been here during the day he would know that Matt Robson has been here all the time. He is not here at the moment but I am sure he is in the precincts of the House.
Mackey Moana: Holidays Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Mackey Moana: Holidays Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:614;Page:10509] 
MOANA MACKEY (Labour) 
: 
 I rise to support the Holidays Bill despite the fact that I did not sit on the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee which looked at the bill at any point. I refute any inference by the uninformed member over on the Opposition benches that I sat on the select committee and looked at the bill at any stage or that I would ever insult any submitters—unlike some members of the Opposition on select committees that I do sit on who suggest that I would be rude enough to read a magazine during those committee meetings. I am pleased Opposition members seem to think I am such a threat that they need to damage my untarnished reputation in the House. 
John Key 
: A life of blameless excellence. 
MOANA MACKEY 
: I will take that as a compliment and say thank you to Mr Key. I rise to support this bill and commend it to the Committee. It is about time that workers in this country had a fair say.
English Bill: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
English Bill: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:620;Page:15873] 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (National—Clutha-Southland) 
: 
 I seek leave to table a submission from the Tertiary Education Commission to the Minister pointing out enrolment irregularities at Aoraki Polytechnic which are still unresolved. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Benson-Pope David: Resource Management and Electricity Legislation Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Benson-Pope David: Resource Management and Electricity Legislation Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:627;Page:22296] 
Hon DAVID BENSON-POPE (Associate Minister for the Environment) 
: I move  
That it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the Resource Management and Electricity Legislation Amendment Bill that it take the bill part by part 
.
Hide Rodney: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Hide Rodney: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:620;Page:15533] 
RODNEY HIDE (Leader—ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I note that the Prime Minister has not been able to join us today for question time. Therefore I seek leave to ask my question next Tuesday when she hopefully will be back. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought. Is there any objection? There is. Please ask the question.
Turner Judy: Misuse of Drugs Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee Third Reading 
Turner Judy: Misuse of Drugs Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:21498] 
JUDY TURNER (Deputy Leader—United Future) 
: 
 I want to take a very brief call on Part 2 in the Committee stage of the Misuse of Drugs Amendment Bill (No 3) just to say that United Future is very supportive of the provisions. We congratulate the Associate Minister of Health Jim Anderton on providing border staff with some additional strengths. I think it is great that the bill defines very clearly the raft of searches that can be done. Because of privacy issues it is good to be very clear so that the power to search is not abused. 
The thing in this part that particularly interests me is the ability for controlled deliveries to occur. Really when we look at all the strategies around drug use and drug abuse in this country we see that we need to be particularly vigilant to cover those people who make a living from the suffering and addictive behaviours of others. For the Customs Service in concert with the police when they know that a delivery is coming to be able to allow it to happen to monitor it to pick up on the whole down-line process and to see often particularly in terms of precursor substances coming in where it is being delivered and who is manufacturing it—to keep track of the whole system—means that the net that officials can throw is much wider and that is an extremely good development. United Future wants to support the police in this work. 
I really want to say just that we are very supportive of these provisions and very glad that the Minister has taken this step. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 377 in the name of the Hon Jim Anderton to Part 2 be agreed to. 
Amendment agreed to and Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Relationships (Statutory References) Bill; AND BILLS THEREFROM — Third Readings 
Vote: Relationships (Statutory References) Bill; AND BILLS THEREFROM — Third Readings 
[Volume:624;Page:19205] 
A personal vote was called for on the question  
That the Property (Relationships) Amendment Bill be now read a third time 
Ayes 76 
Anderton(P) 
Duynhoven (P) 
Locke (P) 
Samuels(P) 
Barker(P) 
Dyson(P) 
Mackey J (P) 
Shirley(P) 
Barnett (P) 
Ewen-Street   
Mackey M (P) 
Simich(P) 
Benson-Pope(P) 
Fairbrother (P) 
Maharey(P) 
Sowry(P) 
Beyer (P) 
Fitzsimons(P) 
Mahuta(P) 
Sutton(P) 
Bradford(P) 
Gallagher(P) 
Mallard(P) 
Swain(P) 
Burton(P) 
Goff(P) 
Mapp(P) 
Tamihere(P) 
Carter C (P) 
Gosche(P) 
Mark(P) 
Tanczos(P) 
Chadwick(P) 
Hartley(P) 
McCully(P) 
Tizard   
Choudhary(P) 
Hawkins(P) 
O'Connor(P) 
Turei(P) 
Clark(P) 
Hereora(P) 
Okeroa(P) 
Ward(P) 
Coddington(P) 
Hide(P) 
Parker(P) 
Williamson(P) 
Cosgrove(P) 
Hobbs   
Peck(P) 
Wilson(P) 
Cullen(P) 
Hodgson(P) 
Pettis (P) 
Wong(P) 
Cunliffe(P) 
Horomia(P) 
Pillay(P) 
Yates   
Dalziel(P) 
Hunt(P) 
Rich(P) 
Donald(P) 
Kedgley(P) 
Ririnui(P) 
Donnelly   
Key(P) 
Robertson(P) 
Duncan(P) 
King(P) 
Robson(P) 
Teller: 
Dunne(P) 
Laban(P) 
Roy(P) 
Hughes   
Noes 44 
Adams (P) 
Copeland(P) 
Ogilvy(P) 
te Heuheu(P) 
Alexander(P) 
Eckhoff(P) 
Paraone(P) 
Tisch (P) 
Ardern(P) 
English(P) 
Perry(P) 
Turia(P) 
Baldock(P) 
Field   
Peters J (P) 
Turner   
Brash(P) 
Franks   
Peters W (P) 
Wang(P) 
Brown (P) 
Goudie(P) 
Power(P) 
Woolerton(P) 
Brownlee(P) 
Gudgeon(P) 
Prebble(P) 
Worth(P) 
Carter D (P) 
Heatley(P) 
Ryall(P) 
Carter J (P) 
Hutchison(P) 
Smith L (P) 
Catchpole (P) 
Jones (P) 
Smith M (P) 
Collins(P) 
McNair(P) 
Smith N (P) 
Teller: 
Connell(P) 
Newman(P) 
Stewart(P) 
Scott   
Bill read a third time.
Vote: Land Transport Management Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Vote: Land Transport Management Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:613;Page:9691] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Noes 47 
New Zealand National 26; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Amendments agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Roger Sowry to clause 53 be agreed to: 
to omit subclause (1)(e).
Brown Peter: Business of the House 
Brown Peter: Business of the House 
[Volume:625;Page:20468] 
PETER BROWN (Deputy Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I apologise for interrupting the debate but I suppose to put it in simple language that New Zealand First has been caught somewhat unawares. We did not anticipate this urgent debate and Mr Peters is programmed to travel tonight so I am seeking the leave of the House to defer his Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi Deletion Bill.
Peters Winston: Motions — Tsunami Boxing Day—Expression of Condolence 
Peters Winston: Motions — Tsunami Boxing Day—Expression of Condolence 
[Volume:623;Page:18149] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 It is New Zealand First’s view that these sorts of disasters should see us as a Parliament speak with one voice rather than every disparate party rising to add its view. That being the case New Zealand First endorses the Prime Minister’s comments and sentiments and we support them.