Bindra MaheshMAHESH BINDRA (NZ First): I do not know whether it was meant as a compliment to me or as a criticism of the Department of Corrections but I was told that the Department of Corrections' standards declined after I left so I actually take it as a compliment.This electronic monitoring system has been failing since 2008. Since 2008 there have been 15500 breaches of the system which means that 15500 times the system has failed but this Government refuses to learn. This Government absolutely refuses to learn. Not only that but it is now claiming that it has bought a new type of electronic monitoring device which was easily cut by a TV cameraman.Denis O'Rourke: A ball and chain!MAHESH BINDRA: Yes. So you can imagine how long the criminals will take to get rid of those electronic bracelets. So in spite of it having failed 15500 times that system is not being corrected.In terms of the custodial systems within the corrections system those prisons that are being run by the Department of Corrections do not have that many problems. Yes there are systemic failures at times but the prisons run by the private company called Serco have actually failed miserably to achieve anything except profits for themselves. We are told that $33 million is being paid to Serco to run the newly constructed Mt Eden Corrections Facility. I actually worked in the old Mt Eden Prison which was run by the department and was run very efficiently in spite of the new systems not being present there. There were very few cameras and there were very few electronic gates. Everything was manual but the system worked then. The systems do not work now with Serco. There is $33 million being paid and then there was a fight club ring run there. The criminals were making calls to community members—extortion calls just like in Colombia. This was happening in the Mt Eden Corrections Facility run by Serco.When that was exposed by the media the department stepped in. It is now managing the prison facility but the majority of the staff are still employed by Serco. The systems are being supervised by the department but are actually run by Serco again. But it is slightly better than what it used to be earlier.So that is only about the Mt Eden Corrections Facility. Moving on to the new Auckland South Corrections Facility that facility is a huge one. There are about 800-plus prisoners at the moment or 900 and that again is being managed by Serco. However recently I discovered that the Department of Corrections now gives Serco three senior officers to supervise it to make sure that the systems work. However 2 weeks ago or 3 weeks ago there was a case where a prisoner was wrongly released. The prisoner was meant to be released and then rearrested immediately or moved to a remand facility but what happened was that the Serco staff who are not adequately trained—they do not have the skills—went by their own systems. They did not check with the Department of Corrections and did not check whether the prisoner had active charges. So they wrongly released a prisoner who actually handed himself in 3 weeks later. So for 3 weeks that prisoner who was meant to be in the prison was out in the community. That was a huge risk. It was just like the Blessie Gotingco case.So corrections staff are not adequately trained now. The funding has been cut for training and the qualifications have now been liberalised and there is a huge turnover of staff because the staff are not motivated to continue working in the corrections system.So coming back to Serco Serco has failed many times but this Government refuses to learn. This Government refuses to penalise Serco for that. The only penalty that it gets is a cut in its bonuses. It still gets its bonuses but if there is a debacle like that like the fight clubs and the drug smuggling and cellphones within prisons—