Collins JudithHon JUDITH COLLINS (National—Papakura): Thank you Madam Chair—excellent choice. I've been looking at this Public Finance (Wellbeing) Amendment Bill and I looked for the definition of wellbeing" and I couldn't find it very well. So I've looked up the dictionaries that I have on my phone—Hon Louise Upston: Which one? Oxford or Collins?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Oxford. Collins is always the right choice of course but just occasionally I'll move to the Oxford. In this particular case "wellbeing" is "the state of being comfortable healthy or happy". And then I went through to another one here on how to define "wellbeing" which is something called "Psychology Today" which is probably appropriate I would have thought. Wellbeing is "the experience of health happiness and prosperity. It includes having good mental health high life satisfaction a sense of meaning or purpose and ability to manage stress. More generally wellbeing is just feeling well." OK; I'm just not quite sure if the Government should be the ones telling us whether or not we're feeling wellbeing. Certainly I think Dr Ashley Bloomfield's not feeling it this morning after the way he was thrown under the bus by David Clark.I think that most people expect their Governments just to produce the results that they've promised to produce. So if I'm looking at the state of wellbeing and how this is going to be measured I'm fascinated by this—how this is going to be measured—because as has been stated in the House this morning already the previous National-led Government brought in Public Service targets and those were changed. They were made harder. We certainly saw that in the justice sector—they were made harder. They were made harder in education because after every one was achieved when there was achievement then we gave ourselves a bigger test to come up to. And that is because we were not worrying about our own personal wellbeing. We were trying to produce outcomes for New Zealanders. So to have a Government go to all this trouble and cloak itself in this loving sort of feeling that we're all going to be happy together and be I don't know just generally happy—I just don't think it's the role of Treasury. I think Treasury needs to be very focused on fiscal matters and let people choose whether or not they think that is actually being dealt with properly.I don't understand why a Fiscal Strategy Report must under Part 1 of this bill explain how wellbeing objectives have guided the Government's Budget decisions. I would have thought those were pretty obvious if you're looking at the Budget decisions. KiwiBuild would be one of those Budget decisions you might want to think about. Light rail might be one of those Budget decisions you might want to think about and what people might want to say in terms of making New Zealanders feel more well—a general state of feeling well—is probably not. They're probably feeling angry. It's more likely going to increase the anger and the sense of frustration at the total incompetence that they're seeing from some Ministers in this Government.What is it with this Government that they want to tell us that they're going to measure how well we feel how happy comfortable or healthy we feel? Why do they need to measure that for us? Isn't that for us to do? Isn't this going to the state of a Government that inherited an excellent fiscal record from a National-led Government then having to try and change the parameters change what they do just to show that they're doing something? Right now New Zealanders would like to see some competence from the Government. They'd like to have a Minister of Health who actually is the Minister of Health. They'd like to have a Minister of Transport who can make transport decisions. This is what they'd like to see. This would achieve some good wellbeing for New Zealanders. They don't need to have Treasury telling them how they're going on that. They just want the Government to do its job properly and when they see that the people of New Zealand will be happier healthier and they'd have good wellbeing."