Prime Willow-Jean; Chhour KarenHon WILLOW-JEAN PRIME (Labour): Just one on the bootcamps. I asked the Minister at the scrutiny week how much per participant per child the bootcamp was. The Minister said Any details of specific 'how much it's going to cost per child' we've got announcements coming up soon in the future and we can't go into [too] much detail around that". The announcement came and went and the detail around that has never come to the surface. How much is the pilot per child per participant? That is my question on the bootcamps.My other question is: who and on what date made the decision that Oranga Tamariki would limit its core focus its core purpose its core business to that for children in care and protection or who come to the attention of Oranga Tamariki? Because as I read the legislation the very services that we are hearing being cut are services that go to the purpose role and function of Oranga Tamariki in the legislation. So who decided to refocus Oranga Tamariki to that which we are hearing now from the Minister?Hon KAREN CHHOUR (Minister for Children): The purpose of the Oranga Tamariki Act 1989 is all about promoting the wellbeing of children young persons their whānau and communities. This means supporting and protecting children and young people including preventing them from suffering harm to their development or wellbeing. This purpose also extends to preventing offending or reoffending. The Act also outlines that the wellbeing and best interests of a child or a young person should be paramount in the application of law. At its core Oranga Tamariki is a statutory care and protection and youth justice agency. Its focus must reflect this core responsibility and purpose and the operating model helps Oranga Tamariki to better deliver on its core purpose.But what I would like to say is that the care and the wellbeing of our young people is not just up to Oranga Tamariki. This is a multi-agency approach when it comes to our young people that are out in our communities. It tends to be the assumption that Oranga Tamariki is the only agency that is responsible for children—that just is not true. Kāinga Ora has an obligation to make sure that when we have families with young children that they have a roof over their head and a place to live. Health has an obligation to children to make sure that they are healthy and that they have everything they need within a health system. Mental health has an obligation to children in regards to their mental health and their wellbeing. The Ministry of Social Development has an obligation to children when it comes to funding parents who may need help when it comes to taking care of their young people.So to say that Oranga Tamariki should be the be all and end all for every child in this country is absolutely untrue. It's actually not helpful because what we need to do is make sure that the all-of-children system works well together when it comes to the care and protection of our children. And that is what I am doing: putting the focus back where Oranga Tamariki's core purpose is the statutory care and protection of the youth justice agency as well and must focus and must reflect on this core responsibility because for far too long we've had report after report after report saying that children are still being hurt and harmed in care. This is something that people would be kicking and screaming about whenever a child is hurt or harmed in care: how could a child get hurt or harmed in care? Why aren't we resourcing the front-line staff better? Why aren't we focusing on the children in care? That is exactly what I have said from the moment I have come in here: that we are going to focus on the children and young people that are in the care and protection of Oranga Tamariki. This is an all-of-agency approach; it's not just Oranga Tamariki's responsibility."