Guy NathanHon NATHAN GUY (National—Ōtaki): Madam Chair thank you very much for the opportunity to make a contribution on what is a very important bill the National Animal Identification and Tracing Amendment Bill (No 2).I was reflecting sitting here on the debate that we had on the number one bill last year that came in here under urgency and Damien O'Connor had decided that he didn't need to consult the Opposition at the time. He came in here put the House into urgency and we revolted and said Why didn't you talk to us?" and he realised at the time perhaps he should have. What happened in the end was it was a very robust debate. We ended up having briefings from his officials trying to understand these warrantless search powers. Indeed in the end we decided to support the number one bill because of M. bovis.I'm a bit interested—I see the Minister's officials are there—in whether he could indeed refer to them to give us a bit of an overview on how those changes have been progressing. Because the concern that we had at the time with the National Animal Identification and Tracing (NAIT) No. 1 bill was that these Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) officers could indeed turn up without a warrant and in examples that were given take farmers' hard drives. I'm going to make some comments about the No. 2 bill in a moment. But it would be useful since we are talking about the NAIT No. 2 bill to reflect on the one that indeed was passed in this House last year.Now this No. 2 bill is very interesting because we support the changes and in fact the select committee under the leadership of David Bennett made some very good changes with the support of Government members. What I do want to spend a couple of moments talking about is the ownership of the data and I know previous speakers have raised that. Reading the commentary from the select committee there was a lot of discussion about who owns the data. It looks as though legal opinions were sought and there was some confusion and so it looks as though it's been laid to rest. I'd like the Minister to clarify that perhaps no one in particular owns that data but the Minister can request it on behalf of the ministry at any given particular time.I'm pleased to see that transport operators aren't going to be liable for an animal that is not tagged that the PICA the person in charge of animals the farmer is going to be the person that is liable for a tag for an animal that is picked up off a farm and not carrying a tag. The reason I think that that is pragmatic is you need to reflect that a lot of these transport operators turn up to load the farmer's stock out of their yards at 10 p.m. in the night as Hamish Walker's given an example. It might be 2 a.m. or 4 a.m. in the morning no lights on the yards. How on earth can they determine whether every individual animal has a tag. I think that it's right that that ownership the liability of that issue sits with the person in charge of those animals.The other one that I would be really keen to hear from the Minister on because this sort of snuck in late in the piece is the ministerial direction that the Minister of the day can give to NAIT. It's about the Minister's priorities and expectations. I would hate to think that a Minister of the day could direct NAIT officers as to what they should be doing and how it lines up with Government priorities or expectations. Because I would have thought that any Government whether it's a blue stripe Government or a red stripe Government their expectation would be for NAIT to do the right job for farmers for animals for biosecurity for food safety and the like. So it would be good to hear from the Minister in a moment when he gets to his feet what his expectations are that he might be going to give NAIT officials and the board in due course.In summary this is a good bill. The National Party supports it. It was a good process to go through and a lot of submissions that were heard. They should be aware that their views have been picked up in this bill and that's why we're supporting it this evening."