Kuriger BarbaraBARBARA KURIGER (National—Taranaki - King Country): Thank you Madam Speaker. It's a pleasure to take a call in the House for the first time of the House sitting in 2023 noting that the country's been through a lot in the last month or two. All of our hearts go out to those families who have lost family members and good friends in the process of what's happened in Auckland and the Hawke's Bay and Tai Rāwhiti up in Northland. There's been a lot of struggles with weather over the beginning of 2023 and we can't let that go unnoticed when we're talking about a bill around the emissions trading scheme (ETS) and a bill around climate change.About two weeks ago I joined the Environment Committee and I have to say it's been a pleasure sitting there for the last two weeks. As the Hon Scott Simpson my colleague said before we are spending a lot of time talking about the replacement bills for the Resource Management Act. I have to say that it's timely as is this bill in terms of how we adjust and make changes and make way for how we're going to get to our emissions reductions targets which we've agreed to. But the one thing that we always question is just making sure that we've got the right path to get there and often that's where we in Parliament—we all look out into the future and we know where we want to go. The biggest debates we have are on the path to succeed and where we want to go.And so like has been mentioned before I do thank Minister Shaw for being open to the select committee feedback because when we talk about these industrial allocations the concept as has been mentioned before is sound and it is to reduce carbon leakage. And we know that as time goes by businesses do various things to their business that either makes their liability more or less and we can't afford to have taxpayers paying out for businesses who have improved. Congratulations to those businesses who have done things and managed to improve. But I think one of the things we'll need to be looking at as we go through the select committee process is exactly some of the things that were mentioned before: that in this country we have a number of businesses that are processing much-needed products for our future and we need to be careful that while we are readjusting this we make the new numbers fair and equitable for what we're actually seeing today and over the next few years. Because it absolutely is out of date and it's time that we did have an update.I am pleased that we are supporting this bill because the small forestry owners—you know there is a break for those on the 3 to 1" rule that currently sits in place and it sits there around undue hardship. Just of late we've had a lot of conversations about forestry and a lot about you know what forestry needs or we require forestry to be doing in the current environment particularly with the heavy rainfall and the issues of slash. So when we look at the small forestry owners who have harvested and who actually make an opportunity to do the right thing and clean up if they've got some undue hardship in terms of paying that money back then this bill is actually very good at just giving the opportunity for us to get some submissions at select committee. But I'm sure this is something that's going to be really really well supported.And shouldn't we in New Zealand be encouraging small forestry owners? We're always encouraging people to diversify and I think it's really important that we make sure that our own people have an opportunity to participate. We should be encouraging them to do so and to do the right thing. So we don't want people to be feeling like they have undue hardship and have to pay a whole lot of money back because you know they're in that range. So I think this is a really good thing to do. And at that point I want to just say that we look forward to the submissions coming in to select committee. I'm really pleased that the Minister's open to select committee feedback. When we're in Parliament and we go into select committee a Minister with an open mind is a good asset to have in terms of someone who is open to how the feedback comes back.While we think the bill is in the right direction the devil is often in some of the detail and while this is a good bill to take out there for submissions there will be some tweaks and balances and changes that need to be made. So with that I reiterate that National's supporting this bill. Thank you Madam Speaker."