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Mackey Moana: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Mackey Moana: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4745. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MOANA MACKEY (Labour) 
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 I want to officially put on the record that despite the long speech of the Minister for Climate Change Issues on the referral motion our concern at the very very short report-back time for this very significant piece of legislation the Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill—17 October 2012—is that it does not give the Finance and Expenditure Committee the time to do the job that it is supposed to do. The Minister may well have done consultation outside of the parliamentary process but that does not mean that he has the right to truncate the parliamentary process in the way that he is or that he has the right to undermine the parliamentary process in the way that he has by giving a report-back date that is less than 7 weeks away from where we are today. Normally we would take 6 weeks to receive submissions at a select committee. 
Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga 
: Not really. 
MOANA MACKEY 
: The member says not really. I know under National that has not been the case. That has been the convention and a 6-month time period at the select committee. We are being given a 7-week time period in which to advertise the bill call for submissions review the submissions call submitters in to hear before the committee have the officials do a summary of those submissions and a departmental report make amendments to the bill go through the amended bill deliberate and report back to Parliament. We cannot do that in 7 weeks. 
The fact is that although the Government went out and consulted as the Minister said in his speech on a raft of proposed changes what he has not consulted on is the actual final legislation that has landed in the House. That legislation differs not only from what the Minister said in the consultations that he outlined but also in some cases from what he promised would be in it. Some people who may have felt that they were consulted outside of the parliamentary process were led to believe that there would be things in this legislation that the Minister promised them would be there such as some kind of restraint on the number of international units that can be brought into New Zealand. That was promised; it is not there. I do not think it is fair for the Minister to argue that a 7-week process on a significant and technical piece of legislation is OK when he actually has not produced a piece of legislation that follows on from the consultation that he outlined before. 
So Labour is very concerned. The fact is that we will not be able to do the job. The fact is that it shows that the Government has absolutely no intention of making any changes at the select committee. It is just paying lip service to it. It is a waste of time. We are very very disappointed.
Mallard Trevor: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Mallard Trevor: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. It is not written down for members of the House. You might have been included in some internal Government documentation which would be questionable but it has not been provided to members of the House and for you to suggest that it has been is quite wrong. If there is a run sheet that belongs to the Government that you are privy to then that is another issue. I suggest that if the Minister corrects his statement we do not need to have the whole speech all over again.
Stewart Barbara: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Stewart Barbara: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4722. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
12. 
BARBARA STEWART (NZ First) 
 to the  
Minister of Health 
: Is he satisfied that New Zealand’s maternity services are meeting all the needs of pregnant women in New Zealand; if not why not? 
Hon JO GOODHEW (Associate Minister of Health) 
on behalf of the Minister of Health: It is important to state that the phrase “meeting all the needs” sets a very broad parameter. There is no definitive list of needs. What I can however say is that New Zealand has a world-class maternity system but we can always do better. From time to time service to an individual may fall short of that required sometimes with tragic consequences. That is why doctors midwives nurses and other health professionals across all 20 district health boards are now all working together for the first time ever on the national maternity quality and safety programme. We want the best possible services to protect the safety of mothers and babies. That is why the National Government has invested $114 million over the last 4 years in improving safety and quality. 
Barbara Stewart 
: How can he be satisfied with maternity services when there were 21 infant deaths in 2010 where midwives failed to follow best-practice guidelines including the case about which Hastings coroner Chris Devonport last Thursday said texting was an inappropriate way for midwives to complete clinical assessments and which resulted in the death of a baby boy last June? 
Hon JO GOODHEW 
: Each tragic circumstance is reviewed. Each tragic circumstance where a mother or a baby dies gives the opportunity for the individuals involved to learn from the review process. Ideally these tragic circumstances would never happen but the national maternity quality and safety programme gives us a new opportunity to not wait for tragic circumstances to actually move forward and improve the quality and safety of the care that is provided to mothers and babies in New Zealand. 
Barbara Stewart 
: Is he aware that 96 to 98 percent of midwife graduates undertake the additional Midwifery First Year of Practice programme; if so will he make completion of this programme compulsory to ensure some consistency across the sector? 
Hon JO GOODHEW 
: I am afraid that I am unable to answer that question given that I have not been briefed on the hypothetical question going to the Minister.
Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4745. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I have put the motion. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Point of order Mr Speaker— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Hang on. You brought up a point of order; I am going to rule on it. The intention of the Minister was well known it is written down and 20-12 or 2012 the intention was clear.
Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4745. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The ruling is that the motion has been laid on the Table so it has been available for members to see. Even though the Minister may have inadvertently truncated the year the intent is clear. It has been available to members and so we will proceed as per the debate.
Groser Tim: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Groser Tim: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4744. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon TIM GROSER (Minister for Climate Change Issues) 
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 I move  
That the Finance and Expenditure Committee report to the House on or before 17 October 2012 and that the committee have authority to meet at any time while the House is sitting (except during oral questions) during any evening on a day on which there has been a sitting of the House on a Friday in a week in which there has been a sitting of the House and outside the Wellington area during a sitting of the House despite Standing Orders 188 190 and 191(1)(b) and (c).  
I request a shorter than usual time frame for the select committee’s consideration of this bill as the proposed changes have been extensively debated during and through the 2011 review panel process involving written and oral submissions the release of the review panel report and a series of hui organised by the Climate Change Iwi Leadership Group. A discussion document was released by the Government and discussed at public meetings around the country including meetings with iwi the opportunity for written submissions of which 370 were received and subsequent follow-up meetings with interested parties. The level of consultation to date with the public and interested parties has been extensive and in order to ensure that the legislation is passed into law before the end of this parliamentary year I feel it is reasonable to shorten the period available for select committee consideration.
Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4744. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be agreed to. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Question agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4742. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am sorry to interrupt the honourable member. Her time is expired.
Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I understand the next call is a split call between Labour and the Greens. We will have Dr Rajen Prasad. I will ring a bell at 4 minutes.
Barry Maggie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Barry Maggie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4710. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
2. 
MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore) 
 to the  
Minister of Finance 
: What reports has he received on the Canterbury economy and what effect will this have on the national economy? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) 
: 
 The National Bank’s regional trends survey released this week shows that the Canterbury economy grew 4.4 percent in the year to June its strongest annual rate of increase for any individual region since 2007. The Auckland economy grew 3.0 percent in the year to June. These regions contributed to moderate nationwide growth of 1.9 percent in the year to June. 
Maggie Barry 
: In light of the Government’s programme to build a more competitive economy based on more exports and less debt what steps is the Government taking to promote business growth? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: The Government is setting out to assist with business growth across all regions of New Zealand. The Business Growth Agenda is based on the idea that business confidence and growth create sustainable high-paying jobs and boost our standard of living. Last week we released the progress report on building our export markets and this week we produced the progress report on building innovation. The Government is focused on assisting businesses to make the decisions that lift growth—that is the decisions to invest a bit more employ another person and pay a higher wage. 
Maggie Barry 
: Given the unsustainable build-up in New Zealand’s indebtedness in recent decades what progress is the Government making in lifting household savings and reducing household debt? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: The Government is focusing on lifting its own savings and reducing its own debt. Households though are making progress with the very substantial debt New Zealand households have. Savings are up and household debt is down. The most recent data shows that net household savings are positive for the first time since the year 2000 and positive for only the second time in 19 years since 1993. Household debt as a percentage of disposable income has fallen from 155 percent of GDP in 2009—one of the highest levels of household debt in the developed world—to around 140 percent. This is moderate progress but it is progress in the right direction. 
Maggie Barry 
: What reports on alternative approaches to managing the economy has he received? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: I have seen one such report recently that included as an economic policy “Changing Gear”. It was from the Labour Party. It did not say whether it was changing to a slower gear or reverse gear but it is changing gear.
Lee Melissa: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Lee Melissa: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4721. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
11. 
MELISSA LEE (National) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development 
: What impact have the Government’s Future Focus welfare reforms had to date? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 Under the Government’s 2010 Future Focus welfare reforms we introduced a new obligation requiring those receiving an unemployment benefit to reapply after a year. Since these changes 62178 people have gone through the reapplication process and as a result 15768 people did not reapply during that process. This simple renewal request has saved well over $29.5 million in benefit expenditure. 
Melissa Lee 
: How have these changes supported more sole parents into work? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: As part of those changes we also introduced a part-time work obligation for sole parents with children over 6 years old which means we were actively working with around 6000 sole parents each month. As a result we have seen a greater proportion move into part-time work. Compared with 2 years ago the number of sole parents in part-time work has increased by nearly 2000 to 16300. 
Melissa Lee 
: What reports has she seen that show support for the Government’s welfare reforms? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: I have seen a number of reports as you can imagine. One is that “It is wrong to tax a working person almost to breaking point then give it to a person who is able to work but refuses to.” That is on the Facebook page of the member for Hutt South. I note that they also have support from the leader of the Labour Party. I have seen a report there that says he has “little tolerance for people who don’t pull their weight.” I welcome those members’ support for Government welfare reforms.
Sage Eugenie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Sage Eugenie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4721. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
10. 
EUGENIE SAGE (Green) 
 to the  
Minister of Conservation 
: Is the financial viability of an applicant company a factor in the consideration of concession applications on conservation land; if not why not? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister for Economic Development) 
 on behalf of the Minister of Conservation: Yes. 
Eugenie Sage 
: Has the department sought a financial feasibility report from Fiordland monorail promoters Riverstone Holdings Ltd as part of its consideration of the company’s concession application; if not why not? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: The department is obviously working on a range of information in terms of this application. Obviously as I have already said in answer to the primary question the financial viability is a consideration. 
Eugenie Sage 
: Does the fact that two of the three directors of the monorail company are also the directors of Pegasus Town Ltd which failed and went into receivership last week encourage the Minister to ensure that there is full financial disclosure by the company promoting the $175 million monorail proposal? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: As I have said at the outset the financial viability of a company is a consideration in all concession applications on conservation land. I am sure all relevant matters will be considered in what is a statutory process. 
Eugenie Sage 
: Given that the proposed monorail would involve felling and clearing more than 25000 trees and undertaking significant earthworks in a World Heritage area does the Minister accept that there are significant risks to conservation values if the application is approved and the company subsequently abandons it because of financial difficulties? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: I think the member is well ahead of herself. There is a concession process obviously under way to consider it at the moment. There is also a subsequent Resource Management Act process. So we will be getting a fair way down the track before we will be dealing with the issues the member mentions.
Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4747. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Finance and Expenditure Committee report to the House on or before 17 October 2012 and that the committee have authority to meet at any time while the House is sitting (except during oral questions) during any evening on a day on which there has been a sitting of the House on a Friday in a week in which there has been a sitting of the House and outside the Wellington area during a sitting of the House despite Standing Orders 188 190 and 191(1)(b) and (c). 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to.
McKelvie Ian: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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McKelvie Ian: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4720. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
9. 
IAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitikei) 
 to the  
Associate Minister of Transport 
: What progress is being made on the Government review into transport rules affecting agricultural vehicles? 
Hon SIMON BRIDGES (Associate Minister of Transport) 
: 
 Earlier this month I announced changes to simplify the rules for the use of New Zealand’s 40000 agricultural vehicles. This followed a review and widespread consultation in response to concerns that the current laws do not take into account the special nature of agricultural vehicles or the demands of agricultural production. The proposed changes will improve compliance and provide greater operational flexibility for this important sector. 
Ian McKelvie 
: What are some of the key changes? 
Hon SIMON BRIDGES 
: Well there are many. The changes establish a two-tier system for agricultural vehicles based on a 40-kilometre-an-hour operating speed. Vehicles operating below this speed will be exempt from a warrant of fitness and work-time requirements. In addition a new licence endorsement will allow car licence holders to drive a greater range of agricultural vehicles once they prove that they have the skills to do so. Of course safety remains an important factor. The changes proposed require agricultural vehicles to use a flashing amber beacon to alert road users. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Question No. 10 Eugenie Sage. [ 
Interruption 
] I say to the Labour benches on this occasion to please show some courtesy to a member at the back. I have called Eugenie Sage.
Simpson Scott: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Simpson Scott: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4718. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
7. 
SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel) 
 to the  
Minister of Science and Innovation 
: What new investment is the Government making in science and research? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Science and Innovation) 
: 
 Today I announced that New Zealand researchers have been awarded $133 million in new research grants including $32.8 million in this current financial year as part of the Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment’s 2012 science investment round. Applications for the grant were reviewed by independent experts and selected by the ministry’s science board. In total 47 research projects were awarded grants in the areas of biological industries energy and minerals hazards and infrastructure the environment and health and society. Funding for research in the high-value manufacturing and services sector will be announced in the coming weeks. 
Scott Simpson 
: How does this very significant investment by the Government into science and research improve New Zealand’s economic productivity and competitiveness? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: Science underpins the innovation required to increase the productivity of firms and create sustained long-term GDP growth. As part of this year’s science investment round we are providing grants to a range of areas including for example research into combating the Psa bacterial disease in kiwifruit enhancing the resilience of underground infrastructure in Christchurch and clean-energy storage technology to assist the integration of renewable wind energy into the national grid. On Tuesday I released the Government’s  
Building Innovation 
 progress report which lays out the science and innovation initiatives that build on our strength as a nation of innovators and scientists. This announcement today is another example of the Government’s science and innovation policies in action.
Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4744. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bill read a first time. 
The question was put that the Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill be considered by the Finance and Expenditure Committee.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4707. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 The House will deal with the Committee stage of Part 2 of the Alcohol Reform Bill on Thursday and the decision about how votes are cast is of course between the parties and the Speaker.
Mallard Trevor: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Mallard Trevor: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4745. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The Minister moving the motion suggested that the report-back date should be the year 212. He is about 1800 years too late for that motion and he might want to say 2012 or something similar. I am only trying to help him.
Ardern Jacinda: Third Readings — 
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Ardern Jacinda: Third Readings — 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4759. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
JACINDA ARDERN (Labour) 
: 
 My call will be extraordinarily brief because as I outlined last night the change being made in this legislation to the provision in the Films Videos and Publications Classification Act that is costing the film and music industry $50000 a week epitomises I think the good that is in this legislation but the bad continues to cloud us for any moment longer that we drag this legislation through the House. A total of $7 million is what the industry has suffered as a consequence of delayed legislation because of the fact that one simple word has not been changed. It is my hope that we see this legislation go through the House this evening. If it does not get through the House this evening I would say it is on the National Government’s head that another $50000 a week of expense falls on the industry that it claims to support. 
So that is my challenge to the members in this House tonight. If we truly believe in reforming regulation then we will let this legislation pass this evening. I commend this legislation to the House.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4707. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 When the House resumes on Tuesday 28 August the Government will look to complete the third reading of the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill the first reading of the National War Memorial Park (Pukeahu) Empowering Bill Part 2 of the Alcohol Reform Bill and any other partially completed Government bills. Wednesday is a members’ day and the Business Committee has agreed to extend hours on 29 August for a debate on the Social Services Committee Inquiry into the identification rehabilitation and care and protection of child offenders and the second readings of the Legislation Bill the Identity Information Confirmation Bill and the Electronic Identity Verification Bill.
Sittings of the House 
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Sittings of the House 
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Sittings of the House 
MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 We have made excellent progress this afternoon. I seek leave for the House to adjourn 5 minutes early. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There appears not.
Mallard Trevor: Business Statement 
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Mallard Trevor: Business Statement 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4707. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 Is the Government going to make it clear to the House whether it is its intention to move on Thursday next week to any part of the alcohol legislation and to make it clear that there will be conscience votes on both Wednesday and Thursday in the House which is quite an unusual situation?
Tabling of Documents — Schools Charter—Performance of Schools in New York 
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Tabling of Documents — Schools Charter—Performance of Schools in New York 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4757. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Tabling of Documents 
Schools Charter—Performance of Schools in New York 
Hon TAU HENARE (National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I just wanted to seek some assistance from you about the tabling of media articles. I refer to Speaker’s ruling 148/4(3) and if I can have a bit of time I will read the last sentence: “It is not the intention at all to prevent the tabling of those or likewise media articles from overseas publications that would not be readily available to members but would be relevant to them.” I seek leave of the House to table a  
Wall Street Journal  
article dated 27 July this year on charter schools. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: As the member is aware it is our normal practice not to table media that are currently available and given that the article is an international one the House can determine. So I will put the question of leave. Leave is sought for that purpose— 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I just want to make sure it is not an online article. 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: It is not online. [ 
Interruption 
] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Order! We are not going to have a conversation. I think the point has been made. I shall put the leave. Leave is sought to table an international document from an overseas news source. Is anyone opposed to that course of action? There is not. 






Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Vote: Third Readings — 
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Vote: Third Readings — 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4761. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Conservation Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 103 
New Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 14 
Green Party 13; Mana 1. 
Bill read a third time. 
Films Videos and Publications Classification Amendment Bill Fisheries Amendment Bill Friendly Society and Credit Unions Amendment Bill Radiocommunications Amendment Bill Registered Architects Amendment Bill Statistics Amendment Bill Takeovers Amendment Bill Unit Trusts Amendment Bill Wine Amendment Bill and Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill read a third time.
Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Third Readings — 
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[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4759. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National) 
: 
 I stand to support the third readings of the legislation arising from the Regulatory Reform Bill which was divided into 13 different bills and the Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill. These bills in fact streamline frivolous red tape and bring order and regulation to the regulatory environment. The Government is strongly focused on assisting businesses by removing duplication getting rid of unnecessary requirements and clearing up irregularities thereby raising economic growth and living standards. New Zealand businesses face enough challenges without having to grapple with the compliance costs caused by unnecessary regulations. The world is changing dramatically. It is highly competitive and New Zealand needs to move with the times. It is vital that improved but essential legislation be set in place. 
The 13 bills amend 13 Acts and remove duplications unnecessary requirements and inconsistencies. Among the changes is a proposal to amend the Companies Act 1993 to allow companies to choose whether to use electronic shareholder participation. This could save New Zealand companies up to $1.5 million in total each year. Another change was to amend the Unit Trusts Act 1960 so that financial statements and accounts could be distributed electronically and another to amend the Films Videos and Publications Classification Act 1993 to modernise labelling. That will reduce compliance costs by an estimated $2.4 million in the first year and $3.1 million in 5 years. Through the Regulatory Reform (Revocations) Order 206 regulations will be repealed. 
These are just three measures that will make enormous differences to New Zealand businesses. These changes are made in a single omnibus bill that amends all the affected Acts at the same time. The National-led Government promised it would review existing regulations in order to identify and remove requirements that are unnecessary ineffective and excessively costly. This saving will eventually be returned to the New Zealand economy benefiting all concerned. I commend this legislation to the House.
Business Statement 
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Business Statement 
[Sitting date: 23 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4707. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Thursday 23 August 2012 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
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Business Statement 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 When the House resumes on Tuesday 28 August the Government will look to complete the third reading of the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill the first reading of the National War Memorial Park (Pukeahu) Empowering Bill Part 2 of the Alcohol Reform Bill and any other partially completed Government bills. Wednesday is a members’ day and the Business Committee has agreed to extend hours on 29 August for a debate on the Social Services Committee Inquiry into the identification rehabilitation and care and protection of child offenders and the second readings of the Legislation Bill the Identity Information Confirmation Bill and the Electronic Identity Verification Bill. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 Is the Government going to make it clear to the House whether it is its intention to move on Thursday next week to any part of the alcohol legislation and to make it clear that there will be conscience votes on both Wednesday and Thursday in the House which is quite an unusual situation? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 The House will deal with the Committee stage of Part 2 of the Alcohol Reform Bill on Thursday and the decision about how votes are cast is of course between the parties and the Speaker.
O'Connor Simon: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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O'Connor Simon: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4622. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
4. 
SIMON O’CONNOR (National—Tamaki) 
 to the  
Minister of Science and Innovation 
: What investment is the Government making in innovative research and development? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Science and Innovation) 
: 
 Today the Government opened applications for the $45 million 2012 round of business research and development co-funding through the technology development grant. This investment is part of the Government’s plan to back business-led research and development by speeding up development of innovative products and services and getting them to market faster. Our leading high-tech businesses need to maintain their competitive edge in global markets especially in tough world economic times. This programme helps to take some of the risk out of research and development and encourages businesses to reach for more ambitious research and development goals by providing 20 percent co-funding of their research and development activity. 
Simon O’Connor 
: How does this investment from the Government contribute to the goals announced in yesterday’s  
Building Innovation 
 report? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: The technology development grant programme opening today is just one part of our $115 million a year investment in TechNZ’s business co-funding research and development programmes. By co-funding additional business-led research and development in the New Zealand economy we achieve much more than we would if we just allowed firms to reclassify existing expenditure. Successful innovation improves competitiveness increases our economic output drives productivity growth and creates successful exports by introducing new or improved products.
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! The level of interjection has got too high. I did not want to interrupt the honourable member’s speech but a continuous barrage of sound is just not acceptable.
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Is the member seeking leave for an extension? 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: Yes. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is being sought for the member to have an extension of time. Is there any objection? 
Hon Gerry Brownlee 
: You can’t seek leave for someone else. It’s a longstanding tradition. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: OK I apologise. The member is quite correct. I should not have done that. I apologise to the House for that. I did not want to be unhelpful to the right honourable gentleman though.
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Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I move an extension of time so Maurice Williamson can tell us about May Wang and Jack Chen.
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11. 
MIKE SABIN (National—Northland) 
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Minister of Housing 
: What is Housing New Zealand doing to identify and address fraudulent behaviour by some tenants? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY (Minister of Housing) 
: 
 An overwhelming majority of Housing New Zealand Corporation tenants appreciate their homes and abide by the rules. However there are a small minority committed to accessing homes and subsidies that they do not need. Since July 2011 312 tenancies have been ended following investigations and 120 tenants successfully prosecuted for fraud. There are a further 121 cases currently before the court and 594 under active investigation. I commend the Housing New Zealand Corporation for taking action so that families on our waiting list who truly are in genuine need have the home and support they require. 
Mike Sabin 
: What kinds of activities have tenants been undertaking that have led to action being taken against them? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: I will give two examples. They include an Auckland tenant who had over $100000 in a bank account for 7 years which he never declared. He is now a former tenant. He has been prosecuted and convicted and is now awaiting sentence. He has repaid the corporation $25000. A Dunedin tenant failed to declare her partner claimed income-related rent and operated an escort service from her tenancy. The tenancy was terminated by the corporation. The tenant was prosecuted for income-related rent fraud sentenced to 100 hours’ community work and 12 months’ supervision and has a Crown debt of $7500 established.
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9. 
Dr CAM CALDER (National) 
 to the  
Minister of Health 
: What commitments has the Government made as part of its action plan to support vulnerable children? 
Hon TONY RYALL (Minister of Health) 
: 
 The Government is committed to delivering better public services for vulnerable New Zealand children and this includes giving young New Zealanders a better start in life. The Prime Minister has set four challenges around vulnerable children and today Mrs Parata Ms Bennett and I announced more detail about how we are going to achieve these. Government agencies NGOs and Ministers are working together to increase participation in quality early childhood education build on our record infant immunisation rates reduce the incidence of rheumatic fever and reduce the number of children experiencing child abuse. 
Dr Cam Calder 
: How will the Government achieve these four targets? 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: The Government has already begun. In the document that we released today it sets out a number of the actions that Ministers and their departments both individually and collectively will be taking. It is about making sure not only that the Public Service works well but also that the services at the ground level do. For example we are already seeing significant cooperation between those who are working in the rheumatic fever programme and social workers who then follow up to check with the families on issues of overcrowding and the need for home insulation. 
Jacinda Ardern 
: Can he confirm that the targets he reannounced today are all set beyond the 2014 election; if so how will Ministers be assessed on the newly minted Children Result Action Plan or C-R-A-P? 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: Gosh you certainly needed a university education for that joke did you not? If the member had read the report she would have seen that some of those result areas will be achieved well before the election and although the party opposite may think this is a joke—[ 
Interruption 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! I apologise to the Minister. I assume the question asked was serious. There was no way that members could hear the answer and that is unreasonable. We are not going to repeat the question on this occasion but I would ask the Minister to please just finish that answer again because I could not hear the last part of it at all. 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: This Government takes the issue far more seriously than it appears that others do. What we are— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! [ 
Interruption 
] Order! I think we have had sufficient on that one.
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is objection.
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HOLLY WALKER (Green) 
: 
 I seek leave for my question to be transferred to the Minister for Social Development to whom it was originally directed.
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 There having been considerable progress made I seek leave for you to go to your rest early tonight and to come back again tomorrow afternoon. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for the House to rise early—at least that is my interpretation. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? If not leave is granted.
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for the House to rise early—at least that is my interpretation. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? If not leave is granted.
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 There having been considerable progress made I seek leave for you to go to your rest early tonight and to come back again tomorrow afternoon.
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: There is leave sought for that. Is there any objection? There is none. 
House resumed. 
The Chairperson reported the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill with amendment the Regulatory Reform Bill with amendment and that the Committee had divided it into 13 bills no progress on the Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill and no progress on the Taxation (Annual Rates Returns Filing and Remedial Matters) Bill. 
Report adopted.
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I think there is an agreement that the Committee has made sufficient progress and I seek the leave of the Committee that you report progress to date to the Speaker forthwith.
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I will report this bill with amendment and so divided presently.
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Hon LIANNE DALZIEL (Labour—Christchurch East) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Can I invite you to repeat your ruling using the microphone because there are those of us who could not hear you and of course it will not be broadcast as a result of it being unheard in the Chamber.