Collins Judith: Electronic Data Safety Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCollins Judith: Electronic Data Safety Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 18 March 2015. Volume:704;Page:2390. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon JUDITH COLLINS (National—Papakura): Thank you for the opportunity to speak on this bill. I have a level of support really for some of the areas that Ms Curran has spoken about. I was actually quite pleased to hear Mr Cunliffe speak about the concerns about people’s private information in the commercial sphere and everywhere else because having been the victim of someone who decided to hack into someone else’s private information and then make money off it by providing it to that well-known receiver of stolen information Nicky Hager—who masquerades as a journalist but is basically a hack who takes money off people who are stupid enough to buy his books—let me just say that I agree with quite a lot of what has been said so far.I expect members on that side of the House who are suddenly all worried about people’s personal information to tell us about what they were doing visiting that other well-known hacker Kim Dotcom and what they were doing masquerading around with that Nicky Hager and using his book and stolen information to try to beat down the Government. All of a sudden I hear a lot of noise coming from the Opposition members who clearly do not like the truth. They like to stand up in the House and pontificate about private information but by golly they do not like it when we tell them the truth about their filthy little friend Nicky Hager and their big mate Kim Dotcom—someone who I hope one day will quickly be extradited. He can have his day in court which he apparently wants to have. Would that not be great?Let us have a real serious talk about Government information—Hon David Cunliffe: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The Standing Orders provide that it is improper for a member to draw other members into disrepute. I seek your advice. Is it proper for a member to draw themselves into disrepute?The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): No look that is not a point of order. The member is quite within her rights to express the way that she feels.Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Well for goodness’ sake! Why is that man no longer the leader of the Labour Party? Why is he not? Oh that is right he took it to the worst defeat it has ever had since 1906. But hey whatever—he tried he was there he did not conquer. There you go—whatever.Now let us get back to it. Why is it that we have these privacy breaches in the Government sphere? Basically because we have much more data. Secondly there always were privacy breaches. People used to have hard-copy files. People would trawl through them. They would have a look at things. Nowadays fortunately if they do that in an electronic file they can get found out.Now with a click of a button with a click of the mouse we can send information all the way around the place. It is easy to make mistakes. Is that OK? No it is not. We already have the Office of the Privacy Commissioner. We already have the Privacy Commissioner. We already have reports on it.Clare Curran: Where’s the new privacy laws?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Ms Curran has quite rightly said in reference an excellent comment I made last year around introducing a bill around this—it was an excellent comment I would have to say if I may say so myself—and I am sure it is progressing. But it takes a lot of work to get that sort of bill into the House because it is extremely complicated.I think that is one of the things where we now do not accept that it is OK—oh except apparently in the political sense; if you are going through other people’s information and you are on the left it suits you—to actually go through people’s private information and use it. But many of us have worked this out. We use online banking. Many of our communications are online.Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi: Passports are online.Hon JUDITH COLLINS: There are passports online. We have to have confidence in our system and that is why I think it was a really good thing to have the Government Chief Information Officer so that we could actually get all the systems working together.There is this balance between giving people the right to be able to access things online and to work online with the Government and Government agencies and at the same time putting in place measures to protect their privacy. The two are actually quite competing. We have got techie people who are there to try to make it all happen and to make it happen fast and then we have got people like lawyers and others who are saying: “Hang on you’ve got to be careful.” So that is the balance. That is why we need somebody who looks after it. That is why I am very confident that we have measures in place to improve the system. I am sure that when there is a new bill on the Privacy Act we will all be happy to support it.