Williams ArenaARENA WILLIAMS (Labour—Manurewa): Tēnā koe Mr Speaker. There were 14047 photographs images videos and pieces of objectionable material found in the possession of a 33-year-old man who was a travelling child sex offender in 2019; 14000 moments in children's lives in New Zealand and overseas where they were exploited abused where their trust was betrayed where an adult did something to them that we cannot condone here in New Zealand or overseas—14000 moments that were found by an investigation between Customs and the Police that wouldn't have been uncovered if they hadn't had the intelligence that they needed at that time.Let me take the House through the factual specifics of that case because this bill does not deal with a large range of cases a large number of cases but it does deal with some of the very worst offending that we must take action against. So in this case in 2019 a 33-year-old Auckland man had been sentenced to 6½ years' imprisonment for crimes relating to child exploitation images and videos including the production of those images. The man was convicted on numerous charges and it's relevant to note that here because these sorts of protections that extend information on a child protection register to our international neighbours also go along with a number of other changes that people will be charged with in these situations that limit their freedoms in a much more significant way. So when we consider the extension of the child sex offender register to our overseas neighbours we have to look at the other sorts of charges that someone in this situation will also be faced with. In July 2018 Customs began an investigation after receiving information from an overseas agency that a New Zealander had uploaded or exported child sexual exploitation images to a Canadian based messenger app. Customs identified and searched the Auckland man's home while he was present in August 2019. He was arrested after an interview where he admitted knowing the publications were illegal and investigators established that he had produced some of them.In a situation like this our current laws allow us to require information of a person who is charged with this kind of offending and limit their travel domestically. On this side of the House and I acknowledge the member Greg O'Connor for bringing this bill we would say that New Zealand has an obligation to make sure that children in New Zealand are protected from this kind of offending if it is someone in New Zealand in the same way that children overseas are also protected from this kind of offending. Because in this case it was important that we were able to cooperate with international neighbours to receive and act upon that information. It's then on us as New Zealanders to make sure that our agencies have the tools that they need to be able to collect information from child sex offenders who intend to travel and be able to make that available to agencies in other jurisdictions to be able to use it in the same way that we did.It is useful for us to cooperate on these types of crimes because they are cross border because we know and the evidence shows us that people travel for this that people exchange this sort of information over the internet and that networks and linkages around the world exist to allow people to behave in this way. As New Zealanders we have an obligation to stop every single one of that type of offender because when we stop one person like the man who was charged in 2019 we stop those 14000 moments that occurred to numerous children around the world. This isn't the type of offending which has a small scope. It is global. It can affect children from many different countries and our own and we have to do what we can to prohibit it.Now there's been a lot of discussion in this House about the efficacy of child sex offender registers and I look forward to the opportunity at the Justice Committee which I'm a member of to hear from submitters about whether these are working with a deterrence effect and whether they are actually working for people who are on them and changing their behaviour. My view is that they do change behaviour and that makes it one of the useful tools that our agencies can use to implement this but I look forward to exploring that more with my committee colleagues and I commend this bill.