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Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6230] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: The amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 49 in the name of Rahui Katene to omit clause 133 is out of order as it is the same in substance as the previous amendment which the Committee has made a decision on. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 39 in the name of the Hon Dr Nick Smith to clause 151 be agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6227] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Lynne Pillay to clause 52 be agreed to: 
to omit subclause (1) and substitute the following: 
“76 
(4A)However a rule must not prohibit or restrict the felling trimming damaging or removal of any tree or group of trees in an urban environment unless the tree or group of trees is— 
(a)identified (including a map) in the plan or proposed plan; or 
(b)located within an area in the district that— 
(i)is a reserve (within the meaning of section 2(1) of the Reserves Act 1977); or 
(ii)is subject to a conservation management plan or conservation management strategy prepared in accordance with the Conservation Act 1987 or the Reserves Act 1977 
(4B)In subsection (4A) urban environment means an allotment no greater than 4000 m2— 
(a)that is connected to a reticulated water supply system and a reticulated sewerage system; and 
(b)on which is a building used for industrial or commercial purposes or a dwellinghouse.”
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6229] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon David Parker to clause 85 be agreed to: 
to omit this clause.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6230] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 43 in the name of Dr Russel Norman to omit clause 133 be agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6229] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 50 in the name of Rahui Katene to new sections 149J 149P 149Q and 149R in clause 91 be agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6230] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 5; United Future 1. 
Noes 53 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Progressive 1. 
Amendment agreed to. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Before I conduct the next vote I say to members that I keep hearing sounds of a computer being switched on and ticking over. Would whoever has the offending device please shut it up and remove it. It is irritating. This is a debating chamber not a working office. The next amendment in the name of Dr Russel Norman to omit clause 131 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 43 is out of order as it is inconsistent with a previous decision. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 44 in the name of Dr Russel Norman be agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6230] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 49 
New Zealand Labour 43; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 73 
New Zealand National 58; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 39 in the name of the Hon Dr Nick Smith to clause 131 be agreed to.
Twyford Phil: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Twyford Phil: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6226] 
PHIL TWYFORD (Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I think when you read out the details of my amendment you said that it had the effect of omitting clause 151. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: No I said “to omit clause 52”. 
PHIL TWYFORD 
: Did you? My amendment has the effect of deleting clauses 52 and 151. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: I understand that the amendment to clause 151 is a separate amendment. 
PHIL TWYFORD 
: I did not realise that. Sorry I thought they were together. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: I say to the member that because the amendment is in the member’s name if the member thinks there is an error in the way in which the amendment has been referred to in the Committee then the member should say so immediately. To raise a point of order after the vote creates some difficulty. Never mind we have moved on. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 41 in the name of the Hon David Cunliffe to clause 52 be agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6226] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6226] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 14 
Green Party 9; Maori Party 5. 
Noes 108 
New Zealand National 58; New Zealand Labour 43; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 40 in the name of Phil Twyford to omit clause 52 be agreed to.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6225] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I seek leave to table the balance of the 252 emails that my office has received in the last 24 hours objecting to the passage of clause 52. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Leave is sought to table 250 emails. Is there any objection? There appears to be none. They will be tabled. 
Documents by leave laid on the Table of the House. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: We now move to the substance of the matter. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 47 in the name of Te Ururoa Flavell be agreed to.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6225] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I seek leave to table a spreadsheet of the remainder of the 250 emails received by my office in respect of objections to clause 52. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Leave is sought to table a spreadsheet. Is there any objection? There appears to be none. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Goodhew Jo: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Goodhew Jo: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6224] 
JO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I seek your guidance. Unfortunately it was the previous Chairperson who made the comment to the Committee that if the documents being tabled were already part of the business of the Committee then there would be no necessity to table them. Like other members of Parliament I have received a number of emails over recent days and I am of the opinion that in fact these documents have been sent to all members of Parliament and have therefore become part of the correspondence that has entered into their business as members of Parliament. I seek your guidance therefore on whether these emails are already parliamentary business and on whether it would be unnecessary and perhaps trifling with the business of the Committee to table them all.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6224] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I seek leave to table four like submissions from Atkins and Otley Felicity Barnes Nigel Bartlett and Lisa Benson opposing clause 52. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6224] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I seek leave to table three like submissions from Lisa Sanderson Angela Little and David James opposing clause 52. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There appears to be none. The documents will be tabled. 
Documents by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6224] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 Mr Chairperson I thought it would be inappropriate to unreasonably detain the Committee because there are a very very large number of like communications that the Committee ought to have available to it. In this particular sample in my hand I have over 250 documents. I therefore seek leave to table as a group two like submissions from the New Zealand Arboricultural Association opposing clause 52. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is none. 
Documents by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Tisch Lindsay: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Tisch Lindsay: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6224] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The debate was time-limited. The debate has concluded but that does not stop someone tabling documents after the debate has concluded. The debate concluded on time at 8 p.m. so points of order can be raised and documents tabled after that. I ask the member in good faith—as he has just indicated—to group the documents he wishes to seek leave for so that we can progress to the next stage.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6227] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 42 in the name of Dr Russel Norman to clause 52 be agreed to.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6222] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I seek leave to table an email from Scott Langley to Nikki Kaye and others entitled “Save the Trees”: 
 “ 
Dear the people I stupidly voted for last year I am writing to express my concern about the impact of”— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is sought for that. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Roy Eric: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Roy Eric: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6209] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I say to the member— 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: It’s a point of order. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Well I want to rule on it and I have 15 seconds so I will. There is quite a distinction between referring to legislation and referring to the Minister. In my interpretation of what the member did he did cross the line. So I rule that comment out of order. 
Sitting suspended from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m.
Parker David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Parker David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6222] 
Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
: 
 In the brief time available to me I will respond to the complaint from the Minister in the chair the Hon Dr Nick Smith that we have not referred to call-in powers which he sees as being so significant. The reason is that it is all smoke and mirrors. There is no meaningful change to call-in powers in the Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill. 
I will illustrate why this matter is being oversold by the National Government. National members complain that there is an infrastructure deficit in New Zealand. You know spending on motorways in New Zealand doubled under the previous Government. It went up hugely. All of those projects were consented under the Resource Management Act. Public transport funding increased tenfold including some enormous projects like the Northern Busway which was consented under the Resource Management Act. New hospitals from Bluff to Kaitaia were consented under the Resource Management Act. New schools from south to north were consented to under the Resource Management Act. A tenfold increase in transmission expenditure up from $50 million to $500 million was consented under the Resource Management Act. New power generation projects—many years ahead of the demand growth—were all consented under the Resource Management Act. Some of those projects were consented through the call-in processes that the Minister was involved in updating while on the Local Government and Environment Committee with me back in 2005. There was a doubling of telecommunications expenditure between 2004 and 2008 from $700 million per annum to $1.4 billion per annum. That was all consented under the Resource Management Act. Some of it was called in. 
The idea that economic growth will take off as a consequence of these small changes to the call-in process has always been a myth. That is why we have not focused on it in this debate.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6232] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Parts 1 and 2 schedule 2 and clauses 1 to 3 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 113 
New Zealand National 58; New Zealand Labour 43; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 9 
Green Party 9. 
Parts 1 and 2 schedule 2 and clauses 1 to 3 as amended agreed to. 
Bill reported with amendment. 
Report adopted.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6225] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 46 in the name of Dr Russel Norman be agreed to.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6223] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I seek leave— 
Chris Tremain 
: Point of order— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: We are on a point of order at the moment. 
Chris Tremain 
: He was taking a new point of order Mr Chairperson; we have finished the last point of order. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: We are currently on a point of order. I am hearing the Hon David Cunliffe. 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE 
: I seek leave to table an email from Juliet Yates to Chris Carter: “I am writing to you on behalf of the Tamaki Drive Protection Society— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Smith Nick: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Smith Nick: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6223] 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH (Minister for the Environment) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. The Business Committee reached an agreement in good faith that the debate on the Committee stage of this bill would be limited to a period of 3 hours. 
Hon Members 
: 5 hours. 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH 
: A period of 5 hours I am sorry. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I thank the member— 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH 
: No Mr Chairperson there is an important point of order here and I ask you to hear me out please. Mr Cunliffe who is a senior member of the House is choosing to seek leave for the tabling of a whole lot of very minor documents in order to effectively stop the progress of the Committee of the whole House. If you as Chairperson are going to allow that then any party of this Committee could resort to the same tactic and could have all its members take up the whole time of Parliament by simply seeking leave to table irrelevant documents. I think you need to give a ruling about this tactic which has been adopted by Mr Cunliffe and whether it is an appropriate use of the Standing Orders particularly given the agreement that was reached by the Business Committee for a time-limited debate on the Committee stage.
Tremain Chris: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Tremain Chris: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6223] 
CHRIS TREMAIN (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. The Hon David Cunliffe is seeking to table documents and is then reading parts of the emails. I do not think that that is appropriate; it is outside the Standing Orders. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Thank you for that point. The member should just table the document and not explain in depth what is in it.
Smith Nick: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Smith Nick: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6209] 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH (Minister for the Environment) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. It is about the member’s language. He talks about jackbooting legislation. This legislation was introduced in February. Members opposite had an opportunity at the select committee—
Vote: Biosecurity Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Vote: Biosecurity Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6267] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 5; United Future 1. 
Noes 53 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Progressive 1. 
Motion agreed to.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6223] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I seek leave to table an email from David Herkt to Nikki Kaye and others that says: “I also watched one of the National MPs hacking down mangroves at Whangamata …” etc. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Kaye Nikki: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Kaye Nikki: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6169] 
NIKKI KAYE (National—Auckland Central) 
: 
 I will make a quick point in response to Mr Norman regarding the fact that bureaucracy often holds up good environmental progress. A good example is Akaroa where it has taken 2 years to get a resource consent around water treatment. 
The other point I will make is around trees and clause 52 of the Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill. We have heard a little bit about that clause today. I acknowledge the stance the Greens have taken on this issue but I also acknowledge the temporary tree-huggers the Labour Party. Those members failed to put up a minority report on this issue. I have concerns about the legislation but I am pleased we are having this discussion. I believe that the current system of tree rules in Auckland is fraught that councils are spending excessive time on this issue and that many individuals are spending excessive money on resource consents for trees. The question that needs to be asked is not about politicking but about how we fix this. I believe that it is reasonable for individuals to be able to prune and trim their trees so that is quite a positive change that will be made as a result of this bill. 
However I have a specific concern about tree scheduling. I want to ask the Minister in the chair Nick Smith and I would like him to take a call on this how the people of Auckland can have confidence that between now and January 2012 high-value trees and bush will be adequately protected via tree scheduling. I think there are some benefits in respect to the Auckland governance reforms in that there will be fewer systems in place. There may be one team if you like that will be responsible for tree scheduling; I think that is positive. It is also positive that the Auckland governance reforms are coming into place because I think it will be easier to do scheduling. I invite the Minister for the Environment to take a call on that matter.
Tisch Lindsay: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Tisch Lindsay: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6157] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: In accordance with a decision of the House there will be a 5-hour debate with members having an unlimited number of speeches of 5 minutes each. At the end of 5 hours all the provisions of the bill will be put as one question. The amendments will be put before the question on the provisions.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6157] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments recommended by the Local Government and Environment Committee by majority be agreed to. 
Ayes 113 
New Zealand National 58; New Zealand Labour 43; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 9 
Green Party 9. 
Question agreed to. 
Bill read a second time.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6223] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 Mr Chairperson in reaching your considered ruling on this matter I ask you to take into account two factors in particular. Firstly the procedure that I am using is entirely provided for by the Standing Orders where any member has the right to seek leave to table a document. It falls within the guidelines of the Business Committee. These are not press articles or media statements; they are private communications not otherwise available to the Committee. Secondly you will recall that I consulted the Chair about when it would be an appropriate time to table these documents and the advice I received was not to interrupt the debate because a pre-allotted time had been allocated. Therefore I am taking the only opportunity available to me to table these documents. In the interests of facilitating the progress of the Committee it may be that I can reach a compromise with the member opposite Dr Nick Smith to table these documents in groups of like submissions rather than as individual ones. I ask you to consider that offer.
Brownlee Gerry: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Brownlee Gerry: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6133] 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 In accordance with agreement reached by the whips I seek leave for the Committee stage of the Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill to be a 5-hour debate with members having an unlimited number of speeches of 5 minutes each and for the provisions of the bill to be put at the conclusion of the 5-hour debate as one question. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Before I put the leave the notice in front of me states that it is a 4-hour debate. Has it changed to 5 hours? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: Yes. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course of action? There is no objection.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6223] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I seek leave to table an email from Owen Young an architect with 35 years’ experience. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is objection. 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE 
: I seek leave to table an email from Ben Zimmerman of Greenscene on clause 52 of the bill. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6225] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 Thank you Mr Chairperson. I seek leave to table nine similar emails from a range of members of the public who object to clause 52. They were not sent to all members of the Committee 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is none. The documents can be tabled. 
Documents by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6229] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 50 in the name of Rahui Katene to new section 149W in clause 91 be agreed to.
Vote: Crown Retail Deposit Guarantee Scheme Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Crown Retail Deposit Guarantee Scheme Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6112] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 5; United Future 1. 
Noes 53 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Progressive 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
Clause 1 agreed to. 
Clause 2 agreed to. 
House resumed. 
Bill reported without amendment. 
Report adopted.
Adams Amy: Crown Retail Deposit Guarantee Scheme Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Adams Amy: Crown Retail Deposit Guarantee Scheme Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:657;Page:6112] 
AMY ADAMS (National—Selwyn) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: The amendment in the name of the Hon David Parker to omit clause 20 is ruled out of order as it is the same in substance as the previous amendment. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 48 in the name of Rahui Katene be agreed to.
Calder Cam: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Calder Cam: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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Dr CAM CALDER (National) 
: 
 Thank you for the opportunity to speak on the Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill. National promised to introduce legislation into the House to amend the Resource Management Act within 100 days of forming a new Government. We have kept our promise. This bill is the first phase of a two-stage process to reform environmental resource management. The Local Government and Environment Committee has been working in a collegial manner on the Resource Management Act. I mention collegiality advisedly. The measured mellifluous Scottish brogue of the chairman sought and received valuable contributions from all members of the committee. I wish to express my appreciation of the efforts of all members submitters and officials whose input informed and shaped this bill. 
There is a broad understanding and appreciation that changes to the Resource Management Act are required to ensure a better balance between environment protection and economic growth and that the cost uncertainty and delays of the current Act are adversely affecting New Zealand. Understandably there are points of difference. The major urban area affected is Greater Auckland where a number of councils have general tree protection laws. Clause 52 is being used to address this issue. There is a school of thought that clause 52 will countenance widespread rapine and plunder of our precious urban arboreal resource. What is it about Auckland and those who live there that should occasion such concern? Are all these good residents vegetal Visigoths? Are they Philistines of philodendrons? Are they pillagers of Puriri castrators of Kauri? They are not. Are these good people ravagers of rhododendrons? We will talk about this later in the Committee stage.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Noes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Amendments agreed to.
Foss Craig: Crown Retail Deposit Guarantee Scheme Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Foss Craig: Crown Retail Deposit Guarantee Scheme Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
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CRAIG FOSS (National—Tukituki) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Goodhew Jo: Crown Retail Deposit Guarantee Scheme Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Goodhew Jo: Crown Retail Deposit Guarantee Scheme Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
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JO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Voting — Correction—Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill 
Voting — Correction—Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill 
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Voting 
Correction—Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill 
KEVIN HAGUE (Green) 
: 
 I apologise for interrupting the flow of the debate but I seek leave to alter the Green Party’s vote on the third reading of the Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill from eight votes opposed to nine votes opposed. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Rick Barker) 
: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none. The correct result will therefore be shown that the Ayes will be 108 and the Noes 14.
Barker Rick: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Barker Rick: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: I will answer the matter quite directly. The member has been seeking to table documents; people have the right to object to them. I am not sure exactly what the contents are. The member has said that he will facilitate this process occurring quickly. The member appears to be doing that. If the member is trying to trifle with the agreement he has made then we can intervene at that point. If the member is going to expedite the process I welcome that.
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Resource Management (Simplifying and Streamlining) Amendment Bill — Procedure Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 43; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 49 in the name of Rahui Katene to clause 20 be agreed to.
Mallard Trevor: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Mallard Trevor: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I apologise to the Chairperson. I thought he said something that he obviously did not say. I apologise because I think I reflected on his integrity and that would be wrong. I hope the Chairperson knows that we think he is a person of the utmost integrity.
Tisch Lindsay: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I did not seek a closure motion. Government members moved closure motions on many occasions and I did not accept them. Mr Quinn moved a closure motion. I looked at Mr Quinn and I accepted his closure motion. That was when the honourable member first raised a point of order and subsequently there was a motion by Charles Chauvel to recall the Speaker. I did not seek a closure motion. It is not my role to seek a closure motion.
Tisch Lindsay: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I do not believe that by indicating to the Opposition that I would accept one more call was prejudicing what might be said at a later date. As I indicated earlier there were 12 calls by Opposition members and one Government call. The debate had gone for well over an hour. I believe that I acted with discretion that to seek a closure motion following the Minister was right and proper and that I acted accordingly.
Barker Rick: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Barker Rick: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Rick Barker) 
: It is unusual I know but as a number of comments have been made about the Chair I wonder whether the Chair himself would like to make any further comments.
Mallard Trevor: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Mallard Trevor: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 There are a couple of matters. Without wanting to be too critical of the Chair today I make as a first submission the fact of a Chairman saying he is prejudiced about a further contribution from a Labour member—as he did before that member gave that contribution—because the Chair is required to consider a closure on its merits and based on the contribution that had come from the previous speaker. To indicate that effectively no matter what is said the Chair will hear only one more contribution in my submission is not appropriate because the relevance of what is said by the member and the matters that are brought up by the member who is to speak are matters that should be considered. In indicating that only one more contribution would be taken the Chair might have thought that he was being generous in giving Labour another call but I think it indicates a prejudging of a matter that was not yet before members. 
The point I would like to make is that although there is no doubt that the Chair can call anyone he wants when he is in the Chair—when we are not in a set-piece ordered debate where the order from the Business Committee has been set—it has been a very longstanding practice that in the Committee of the whole House where members are calling from alternate sides of the Chamber the practice is to alternate calls. I can accept that the Chairman has the right not to do that; he can call anyone he likes. But the custom and practice of the Committee has been to alternate calls and certainly I do not think that in the time I have been in the House I have ever seen a movement while four or five Opposition members have been going for the call going straight from a Minister in the chair—who made a controversial comment and one that a number of members opposite thought contained an error—to someone who was a designated hitter if you like as far as the closure motion was concerned. 
So there are a couple of matters for consideration. I restate them from my perspective: the first is whether in fact there should be an indication of prejudice on the part of the Chairman about the number of further calls which means effectively that he is not prepared to take into account what has been said by members; and secondly whether the normal custom and practice of the Committee of alternating calls should be breached in this particular way.
Tremain Chris: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tremain Chris: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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CHRIS TREMAIN (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 Members on the other side of the House have failed to raise any particular Standing Order or Speaker’s ruling to refer to as a precedent for what in my opinion is an unnecessary recalling of the Speaker. I believe that the Chair at the time had indicated quite clearly how he would proceed with the process and then proceeded to use his discretion which he quite rightly has in this process. I ask that you rule on this matter Mr Speaker.
Vote: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 67 
New Zealand National 57; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 51 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9. 
Motion agreed to. 
Part 2 agreed to.
Chauvel Charles: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Chauvel Charles: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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CHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour) 
: 
 I thank the Chairman for his very fair summary of the matters relating to the motion that led to your recall Mr Speaker. The reason for seeking a definitive ruling from the Speaker on this matter was as a result of the circumstances of the debate when as the Chairman has said he indicated that there would be one call remaining. But after that call the Minister in the chair chose to take a further call in reply and it was clear from the matters that were raised in the Minister’s reply that new matters were raised in respect of which members on this side of the Chamber wished to deal by way of further reply. The Chair failed in my submission to give the Opposition the entitlement to take a call in response to the new matters raised by the Minister and indeed there was not even a reference by the Chair to the Opposition attempts to seek a call. There was simply a nod to the Government member who sought the closure motion. So in my submission it would be certainly consistent with precedent and normal good practice on behalf of the Committee of the whole House if in the circumstances that I have described a right of reply were acknowledged to the matters raised in the Minister’s address.
Tisch Lindsay: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Mr Speaker you have been recalled by the Labour Opposition on the basis that I prematurely accepted a closure motion when the previous speaker before accepting the closure motion was the Minister in the chair. I had indicated prior to the Minister speaking that I would take one more call which had gone to a Labour member. This debate has gone on for 1 hour and 15 minutes and there have been 12 Opposition calls and one Government call. I believe that accepting the closure motion is the prerogative of the Chair and I acted accordingly having first indicated that I would take one more call which was given to Labour at the time. Then the Minister responded to some of the questions that previous Opposition speakers had brought up. I believe that accepting the closure motion was within the Chair’s discretion and I acted accordingly.
Chauvel Charles: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Chauvel Charles: Legal Services Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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CHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour) 
: 
 In respect of that ruling I wonder whether it would be appropriate for the Committee to seek further assistance. I move  
That the Speaker be recalled to rule on the allocation of calls and the acceptance of a closure motion.  
As my colleague Mr Mallard has said it is the usual practice of the Committee when the Minister in the chair has taken a call to invite responses. 
Motion agreed to. 
House resumed.