Lyndon Hūhana; Halbert ShananHŪHANA LYNDON (Green): Madam Chair wishing to speak to both name and the commencement date I'd like to share how ripped off I feel for te Iwi Māori and the people of New Zealand knowing that we have so little time as members of New Zealand to contribute to this debate because we're locked out. Our communities are locked out. And despite the commencement date being in June we are in urgency and we are tired and we are pukuriri and we are here passionately speaking to save something that our people have invested so much into. So I reflect on the 4685 submitters to the Pae Ora legislation who took the time to provide their local voice their hapū their whānau their marae their community voice the health providers who contributed to the building blocks of Pae Ora. What is in a name? A name such as Pae Ora is tapu. Pae Ora (Healthy Futures) means so much because Pae Ora came from so much—Waitangi Tribunal findings and recommendations as well as a full health systems review that all came together and gave the name the new path Pae Ora (Healthy Futures). And to now know that we are being ripped off as the people of New Zealand by not being able to submit. As a member of the Health Committee I was looking forward to the opportunity to see the bill introduced in order for it to come before our committee and open the floodgates for our community for iwi Māori for health providers and health professionals to tell us why we should retain Te Aka Whai Ora. So my koha is short but it is to express responses to the communities that have contacted me saying Why? Why"—because the bill or the legislation doesn't come in to place until June 2024—"would this Government rush in urgency to see Te Aka Whai Ora disestablished today?"So my plea is to the Government to consider the legislation that they are rushing through urgency for their 100-day plan to give the people of New Zealand a chance. Where is the chance for the people of New Zealand let alone te Iwi Māori to share their whakaaro on the legislation? What we're up to number 16 now in urgency and we've got more to come next week. So me tū patu tātou me tū patu. I think it's important that we all front our communities and we own decisions made in this House and I look forward to the meetings that will occur after this because this has been rushed through far far too soon for the people of New Zealand and te Iwi Māori. Kia ora. SHANAN HALBERT (Labour): Thank you Madam Chair. I want to speak to the commencement date in my contribution and I share the concerns of my other parliamentary colleagues in the House today about this piece of legislation being rushed through in urgency. And I know the Minister will feel it in some sense; it's a sensitive kaupapa that we are debating in this Chamber in urgency and I know that he does have a heart and as a health practitioner himself he certainly will be looking with interest in this. Elections are elections and what you campaign on of course you have to deliver. But the point here is the sensitivities of what we are discussing today. This is a matter for all of Aotearoa New Zealand. Māori yes is a very important part of this. And I share the concerns of my tuahine Hūhana Lyndon who talks about our whānau being locked out of this place. It makes me sad that today when we're talking about such a sensitive kaupapa none of our people are here—that the wairua that we normally feel within these chambers at such an important time is missing. And that makes me sad today. The commencement date is months away—we're talking about Matariki. It enables an opportunity for us to talk to the communities the people that are important and we've acknowledged the communities we've acknowledged Maōri and particularly today I think part of the gap in our conversation here and the opportunity to feedback is from practitioners themselves health practitioners. So the question for the Minister is really: what is the rush here? How did he determine that urgency was required? Did he consider the sensitivities of this particular bill that Maōri wouldn't have the opportunity to contribute that his health colleagues alike—and I think about practitioners like Rawiri Jansen you know; like my better half Dr Anthony Jordan you know; like my tuahine Lily Fraser—good Maōri health practitioners that have the same goal no doubt Minister that you have in mind. They don't tend to have the politics but most of all to address the health inequities in our system they will support you to achieve. I just ask you again: did you consider this in making this decision in urgency? Is it purely political? How do you intend to recover from that to ensure that our health practitioner voice is a part of this when we look at the commencement dates albeit months away?Madam Chair I feel a bit nervous talking about the Waitangi Tribunal hearing without a ruling in regards to what Kieran McAnulty just—CHAIRPERSON (Barbara Kuriger): It's OK if you just stick to the timing of it for this—at this point.SHANAN HALBERT: Thank you. And I do think that that is another sensitive point—that through this process of urgency we haven't allowed that process to occur where Māori will go to raise their concerns where we will be able to debate in this Chamber actually the evidence that comes before that hearing and it's a missed opportunity in this debate. I go back to the way I started that this debate is about Aotearoa New Zealand. It's about everyone and certainly it's about Maōri health outcomes as an important part but the missed opportunity here is the opportunity for everyone—Maōri non-Maōri health practitioners alike—to contribute.So I'm concerned that while the goals may be there for the Minister his approach to this and the influence of politics on choosing to move this through agency is where my questions lie."