McClay Todd: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
McClay Todd: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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7.  
TODD McCLAY (National—Rotorua) 
 to the  
Minister of Transport 
: What progress has been made on the first of the roads of national significance announced a fortnight ago? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Transport) 
: 
 I am pleased to announce that this weekend the New Zealand Transport Agency will be calling for expressions of interest in the project to deal with the notorious bottleneck on State Highway 1 at Victoria Park in Auckland. This project was originally set down to start construction in November 2010. The start has now been brought forward by almost a year to January 2010. 
Nikki Kaye 
: What has enabled the Victoria Park tunnel to be brought forward? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: The New Zealand Transport Agency informed me that it is able to bring this significant construction forward due to the almost $1 billion of extra funding for new State highway construction over the next 3 years announced only 2 weeks ago. I am also advised that because of the forecast reduction in funding under the previous Government’s policy statement the entire project might not have been affordable and the project might not have been able to start. 
Jeanette Fitzsimons 
: Has the Minister had even the tiniest of second thoughts about his unprecedented motorway-building binge after reading the comments of various international transport experts in the  
Sunday Star-Times  
this week including the statement made by Dr Paul Mees who said: “If you live in Auckland you don’t appreciate what an extreme case it is but it’s had the most unbalanced transport policies of just about anyone in the world. Even in Los Angeles they put a bit into public transport eventually. … in Auckland you’d think it was the 1950s from the way the road lobby and the government carry on.”? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: The member will be aware that about $1.6 billion is currently being invested in Auckland passenger rail. This particular project will reduce congestion improve safety outcomes provide more reliable journey times improve economic productivity and also improve environmental outcomes in the vicinity of the project and I think all of that makes it a pretty good thing to do. 
Nikki Kaye 
: What benefits will the completion of the Victoria Park tunnel bring to Auckland? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: The construction phase will provide an economic boost in the short term with more work for the construction industry. The longer-term completion of this project will boost productivity through the provision of an additional three lanes which will greatly ease the congestion experienced by the 100000-plus vehicles that use this route every day. It will remove a huge bottleneck on the Auckland motorway network just south of the harbour bridge and will improve journey times for people travelling to and from the North Shore to all other parts of Auckland. 
Hon Darren Hughes 
: Is the Minister committed to the speedy construction of the Waterview Connection in Auckland including the tunnels; if so will it be to the same design specifications that the community was consulted on? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: The member is aware that we are currently reviewing the costs of the Waterview project because for 4½ kilometres of road the price tag had risen to $2.8 billion for four lanes— 
Hon David Cunliffe 
: We’re over here. 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: —and $3.2 billion I say to Mr Cunliffe for six lanes. 
Hon Darren Hughes 
: When does he think construction of the Waterview Connection in Auckland will start? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: Wait and see. 
Hon Darren Hughes 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I asked the Minister when he thought something would start. His answer cannot be consistent with the public interest in roads that the Minister himself calls roads of national significance. If they are significant it must be consistent with the public interest for the Minister to tell us when he thinks the Waterview Connection in Auckland will start. He must have an opinion on that; he must have a view. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The dilemma of the honourable member’s point is that he has just pointed out that he was seeking an opinion—“When does the Minister think”—so he got an opinion in reply. That is the dilemma with these sorts of questions; if members seek an opinion they will get an opinion and it may not be exactly what they wanted. I cannot force the Minister to give a more precise answer than that I believe. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I raised with you not long ago the same point of order. During the point of order of my colleague Darren Hughes the Leader of the House interjected on four separate occasions. You did not call him to order Mr Speaker. I wonder whether the rules will apply equally to the Government and to the Opposition. 
Hon Bill English 
: The Leader of the House was behaving with the dignity with which he usually behaves. It was actually I who interjected—twice—and I offer my apologies. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I thank the honourable member. I apologise to the Hon Trevor Mallard; I did not actually hear the interjections. I was concentrating so hard on the point that his colleague was making that I did not even hear them. I apologise to him.