Coleman Jonathan: Health (Protection) Amendment Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeColeman Jonathan: Health (Protection) Amendment Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 May 2016. Volume:713;Page:11035. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Health): No I am not Lockwood. I was just very impressed by the outbreak of bipartisanship that we have had across the House two nights in a row. So I would thank Mrs King for her comments and of course the Committee came to a unanimous conclusion on the first part of the bill but now we are discussing the second part. I would thank also Ms Bond for those interesting cultural insights into the world of Geordie Shore. She made some good points actually about UV tanning and exposure to the hands. That is something that was not actually considered but it is a good point indeed.The wider point here is that we are talking about whether or not we should have banned sunbeds for people over the age of 18. People were unanimous on the Health Committee about the need to remove that exposure for children under the age of 18 but then you get to the issue of people aged 18 and over and this is where the philosophical differences really do come in. Mrs King was very adamant and she has expressed it here with Supplementary Order Paper 80 that the sunbeds should be banned.Well there is no doubt that melanoma is a problem in New Zealand and sunbed exposure is a risk factor for that—there is no question about that—but there are all sorts of things that people choose to expose themselves to on a daily basis that are a risk for all sorts of cancer. There is eating fat—that is a risk for all sorts of nasty cancers—there is drinking alcohol and there is actually exposing yourself voluntarily to sunlight. So if we are saying that we want to remove all risk there would be a lot of things that the Labour Party would be wanting to ban including I should think letting you go to the beach in summer. Obviously that is completely impractical but you have got to get the sense of proportion—Clare Curran: Silly man.Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: —around the problem here. Do you know how many of these sunbeds there are in New Zealand? OK so Ms Curran is calling me a silly man. Can Ms Curran tell me how many sunbeds there are in South Dunedin? No. The village idiot of South Dunedin—she can interject but she cannot make a constructive contribution. Well I can tell her that—Hon Annette King: Hey we were being nice to each other.Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: Sorry we are being nice.The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Trevor Mallard): The member—Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: OK I withdraw and apologise in advance. I am not wanting to break my flow so sorry Ms Curran. But what I would say is: do you know how many there are—[Interruption] Look listen up. Listen up Labour people you will learn something. There are 260 sunbeds in New Zealand and dropping. Fewer and fewer people are going to these things. We have taken this considered approach and you look at the by-law brought in in Auckland where a year ago it implemented this by-law requiring quite strict registration requirements for sunbeds. Sunbeds have dropped by 20 percent over that time. So I think we already have in place a sinking lid on sunbeds because the regulations that will follow on from this bill are going to make it really pretty tough if you want to continue to operate a sunbed. You are going to have to have your operators registered. You are going to have to have the sunbeds themselves registered. You are going to have to take notes in the manner that someone practising some branch of medicine would have to. You are going to have to have patient-care notes. You are going to actually have to screen out high-risk—Hon Annette King: Bureaucracy.Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: There will be a lot of bureaucracy—that is the point Mrs King. So I do not think that you will find too many people who are going to want to continue to operate sunbeds. They are going to have to screen out high-risk skin types. So people like me—I will not have any chance of going to Paul Goldsmith’s sunbed-tanning clinic you know because I am one of these Anglo-Celtic types. They will say: “No. There is no way we are going to let you under a sunbed.” There is going to be a lot of compliance burden on those who continue to want to offer this service but it being a democracy there will still be the option for those who do want to provide this service to actually do that.What you will also find I think is that with all this form-filling all the hassle that the clients are going to have to go through and the way these things are going out of fashion I reckon in a few years’ time there will not be very many people going along to a sunbed. There will be fewer and fewer.Hon Annette King: Give a lead Jonathan. Give a lead.Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: Mrs King is just itching to ban this but I want to hear the list of other things she wants to ban. We are not a party that bans things.Hon Ruth Dyson: Listening to you—I want to ban listening to this speech of his.Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: Mrs Dyson—she wants to ban listening to me. In fact she does not even have to be here. She has the choice to leave now of her own accord but no she chooses to stay because actually she knows there is a real point here.So Part 2—look it has been a good debate on the bill overall. I would like to thank the officials for their excellent regulatory impact statement. They did a great job on that. I think Mrs King has been way too tough on them. They understand the perspective of the Government. I think this is the exact right move. I think you will see very many fewer of these beds in the next few years and this is the right approach.