Flavell Te Ururoa: Ngāruahine Claims Settlement Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFlavell Te Ururoa: Ngāruahine Claims Settlement Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5667. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TE URUROA FLAVELL (Minister for Māori Development): “Titiro titiro ki Te Maunga Tītōhea i runga o Parihaka Waitotōro Ngāti Moeahu Ngāti Haupoto. Ko te takiritanga i te kahu o Wikitōria kaitoa kaitoa! Ko Tohu ko Te Whiti nga manu e rua i patu i te hoariri ki te rangimārie ksss auē ksss aue! Ahakoa te pahū o Tanga o Parihaka uē uē uē hā!”Kai ngā taokete Te Maunga Tītōhea koutou e kawe nei i te raukura ngā tūmanako o te hunga kua ngaro atu i te tirohanga kanohi tēnā koutou tēnā koutou nau mai e rarau! Nau mai ki roto i te Whare Pāremata nāna koutou i tūkino i ngā tau kua hipa ake i tēnei rā kua hara mai koutou ki raro i tōna parirau me ngā mate huhua kua pā mai kua kōrerohia nei e te Minita i tēnei ata. Ka tangi ake he kitenga kanohi ka hoki ngā mahara ki te hunga kāore i konei ēhara i te mea nō roto i a koutou ēngari hā ka huri tika tonu ōku whakaaro ki a Te Miringa mā ko rātou i āki nei i ēnei kaupapa mō Taranaki whānui tonu i te wā i a ia. Ēngari anō koutou i tēnei rā te hunga ora e Daisy ko koe tērā e ārahi nei i ngā kaupapa. Ka tangi ake ka tangi ake mō ngā pakeke kua ngaro. Hoi anō kai konei koutou kai konei koe kua eke ki roto i te Whare Pāremata haere mai haere mai haere mai kei aku rangatira tēnā koutou tēnā koutou kia ora tātau!I puta i a au tētahi kōrero i Te Marae o Tūrangawaewae i te kotahi marama pea kua hipa i tērā o ngā hui i whakanuia ko te āhuatanga o te kirimana i waenganui i a Waikato-Tainui me te Karauna. I reira a Hēmi Bolger rāua ko te tangata nā a Sir Doug Graham. I kī atu au i te marae rā ē kua āhua raruraru a Te Ururoa ki te noho i Tūrangawaewae i a rātau e whakanui ana i te kirimana i waenganui i a Tainui me te Karauna i te mea i ngā 25 tau kua hipa i tērā taha o te taiapa kē au e porotēhi ana. He pērā anō taku aronga ki a koutou i tēnei rā e kai ōku taokete! I ngā wā roa mō ngā toru tau kua hipa ake i reira tātau ētahi o tātau ā tukituki nei te rae i runga o Waitara!Ā he aha te kaupapa? Ko te kōpaki o te Karauna! Ko tana Kiriona ē kī ē kī! Ko tā tātau i tērā rā ko te kī atu tō hamuti! Whakahokia atu tō kōpaki ā ki tua o tāwauwau! Ēngari anō a kai konei tātau ā ko tōna whakatinanatanga ā kua āhua tūreiti te kōrero mō tērā i tēnei wā. Nō reira haere mai rā i raro i te āhuatanga o ēnei whakaaro. Ka tangi ake ēngari ka hari harikoa i te mea kua eke koutou ki tēnei taumata. Nō reira e tika kia noho au ki roto i Te Reo Māori ēngari kua koropupū ake te whakaaro ā me whakatakoto ētahi paku kōrero i te reo Pākehā kia mārama tonu te whānuitanga o ngā mea e whakarongo nei ki ēnei kōrero. Nō reira kai aku rangatira o te Whare kai te Kaikōrero o te Whare tēnā koe me tō kore kōrero mō tō rahi.[“Look look at the Barren Mountain over Parihaka Waitōtara River and the subtribes Ngāti Moeahu and Ngāti Haupoto and the loosening of Victoria’s cape; good job good job! It was Tohu and Te Whiti those two birds who slew the enemy with peace; ksss oh the pain ksss oh the pain! Despite the eruption of Tanga and Parihaka it shook shook and shook to no avail; what a delight!”To the in-laws to Barren Mountain bearers of the feather plume and aspirations of those who are lost from sight I greet and acknowledge you; welcome come hither settle in! Welcome to Parliament House that which violated you in the years gone by and today you have come under its wing with your many deceasedwho havebeen mentioned by the Minister this morning. I mourn themandafter seeing you memories of those who are no longer here are recalled even thoughthey are from within you entirely. My thoughts go directly to Miringa and them the ones who really urged these proposals along for Taranaki at large in his time. As far as you are concerned todayDaisy you and the ones who are alive are leading the proposals. But I do mourn and grieve for the elders who have passed away. You as a collective however are here; you have arrived in the House of Parliament; come hither welcome draw closer and acknowledgments to you my esteemed elders; salutations congratulationsand well done to us all.I made a statement at Tūrangawaewae Marae about a month ago at one of the meetings to celebrate the circumstances around the signing of the deed of settlement between Waikato-Tainui and the Crown. Jim Bolger and Sir Doug Graham were there. At thatmaraeI stated that I Te Ururoa had become somewhat troubled to remain there at Tūrangawaewae while they were celebrating the deed settlement because 25 years ago I was on that side of the fence protesting instead. My inclination to you my in-laws is still similar to what it was then as it is today! In that lengthy period about 3 years ago we were there; some of us were there up at Waitara at loggerheads with each other! And what was the proposal? The fiscal envelope of the Crown! Its billion dollars—well well! Our response that day was: “Your faeces! Take your envelope away to beyond the wherever!”. That aside we are all here—its fulfilment? Well today it is a bit late now to talk about that.And so welcome here indeed under the circumstance of these views. I lament but at the same time I am very happy because you have reached this pinnacle. It is apt therefore for me to have remained speaking in Māori but the thoughts well up from within that I should express a few thoughts in English so that the vast number listening in can have some clarity about these sentiments. And so esteemed ones of the House and MrDeputySpeaker my appreciation to us all and to you in particular Mr Deputy Speaker of the House for not making any reference to how well youhave been put together; thank you.]It gives me great pleasure to stand in front of Ngāruahine today. I say that because it was about 30 years ago that I arrived with my whānau back in Taranaki. My wife is from Taranaki and became involved in many of the things. As I said earlier I was on Tūrangawaewae Marae a couple of months ago actually celebrating 25 years I think it was—Hon Nanaia Mahuta: 20.Hon TE URUROA FLAVELL: Twenty—20 years since the signing of the Waikato-Tainui agreement and there was James Bolger and—Tim Macindoe: Doug Graham.Hon TE URUROA FLAVELL: Sir Doug Graham. Sir Doug Graham referred to a protest that happened to be outside of Tūrangawaewae at the time and I said: “Well Sir Doug you were on this side; I was actually on the outside protesting about that fiscal envelope that was touted around by the National Party at the time.” It brings back memories because for many of the people I see up here it is exactly the same. It was about 30 years ago when I went to Taranaki and—I will admit to it—we sort of led a few protests now and again caused a bit of havoc now and again but had some fun.Pita Paraone: Led by your heart.Hon TE URUROA FLAVELL: Ha ha! It was very much led by the heart and I just think about those times and the many people because I did attend many of the first discussions. We are talking about 30 years ago—holy cow; 30 years ago. Here we are 30 years down the track and not everybody is through the gate yet but some are. I remember the Waitangi Tribunal hearings where absolutely everybody said: “No way. Do away with that blimmin $1 billion. You’re not going to buy us off for that amount of money.” Well history is history. We know what has happened since then.But I think about many of those who have passed on and the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations mentioned some of them but I think very much around Te Miringa Hohaia whom you may remember but one of the korero that came out was Taranaki kia kotahi te kōrero [Taranaki be of one voice]. We know what has happened is that people have split off and that is fine. But I think about nā koutou who have come today because it has been a long journey. So to Daisy I congratulate you and you whānau and your team. Wīremu ki a koe anō hoki i kite au i tō ingoa i runga i ngā rārangi ingoa [to you too Wīremu; I noted your name on the list of names]. So congratulations to you for being here.You may not have been here earlier but we made mention—a couple of the members have talked about a few things this morning that I think are important to put on the radar. One of our members the Green member Catherine Delahunty in fact talked about the fact that although we celebrate so much the various people in our history—people like Paris and Grey and Whitmore are celebrated in history; I know they are celebrated because they are street names in New Plymouth for goodness sake—but ko te hunga Māori ā kāore i kitea [as for the Māori people they were not sighted]. And I know that one of those protests was to get rid of those posts but I did not—I did not touch those ones. It was other ones—no no it was not. So I think that is an important point that those names have huge ramifications for our people because they are symbols of a history that many people do not talk about.I just want to raise a second issue that others have spoken about which is that the history of people like the people of Taranaki—I lived there for a couple of years and I have got to say there are a few people who I know feel so deeply and strongly about confiscation. These people are one of them. Tūhoe is another; Tainui is another. There are others obviously. But you know because they live on that same land that was confiscated from them—and as a teacher of Treaty education I have seen the books that show the confiscation line. For somebody who came out of a Parliament of New Zealand to draw down the page one squiggle and draw to the right and say “All of that is now confiscated.” you know that is a part of our history that not many people talk about. Here we have an opportunity to put that sort of stuff in front of our Parliament and I think we should take that opportunity all of the time.I take the point of the “Ngāti Paraone” tribe. He said: “You know maybe these debates should be in the afternoon so that they open up for the general public.” It is all very well for us sitting here and for those watching on TV but actually the history that is spoken about in these Treaty debates is hugely important. We never get it out—we have got 10 minutes to put everything out there. We never do it justice but the mere fact of some of the key points that all of us make for the purposes of being united about giving opportunities for people to move forward I think should be given consideration. Maybe we will take that up in the Business Committee of the House.These are the thoughts that sort of come to mind and the hope is of course that although the journey is not over because there are a couple of stages—I was looking for one certain man from Ngāti Tū to come to the door but I cannot see him here today. So I am suspecting that he will want to have an audience with me and to have a talk. I gave a commitment to that Ngāti Tū kaumātua that I would come up and see him. It may be a little bit later. I may have a phone message on my phone which I will get to this afternoon and we may have a talk on Facebook. But these are the things that we go through. Some of our people say “Let’s go.” some of our people have certain issues that they still want resolved and some of our people are so passionate—and there is nothing wrong with passion. There is nothing wrong with passion especially if it is in the best interests of our people.E hoa mā koinei te mihi o te ngākau ki a koutou i tēnei rangi kua eke ki tēnei taumata! Ē harikoa ana ko koutou tēnei kua noho nei hei hoa haere mō ngā iwi kua tae kē mai ki roto i te Whare Pāremata. Taihoa ake nei ka eke Te Komiti Whiriwhiri Take Māori ki runga i a koutou ki reira wetewete ai te tikanga ia i mua o te paunga o tēnei tau. Ko wai ka mōhio ka hoki mai koutou? Ā koirā te rā waiata te wā ngahau te wā e tutuki ai te kaupapa e taea ai tō koutou haere i runga i te huarahi whakarite mai ai. Nō reira kai aku rangatira e ngā taokete kai ngā uri o ngā manu e rua tēnā koutou tēnā koutou kia ora tātau katoa.[Colleagues I really acknowledge you from the heart today; you have reached the pinnacle. I am absolutely thrilled that you remain here as ones for tribes arriving here in the House as ones to engage with. The Māori Affairs Committee will shortly prevail upon you to critically analyse with you there and hopefully before the end of this year. Who knows when you will be back? And that will be the day to sing entertain—and when the proposal is settled and you go off on your way to make plans. And so my esteemed colleagues in-laws and descendants of those two birds I acknowledge commend and congratulate you and us all collectively; thank you.]