Webb DuncanHon Dr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour—Christchurch Central): Great—probably one of the most thoughtful speeches we've heard from the National Party in recent times!Over on this side of the House we've got no problem with aquaculture. We know it's a great way to grow food. It's great for our exporters. But that's not what the Resource Management (Extended Duration of Coastal Permits for Marine Farms) Amendment Bill is about. This bill is about giving it carte blanche.We've got about 1200 marine farms in New Zealand and this gives them a global extension. What that means is that you are assuming there are no farms which are having a material adverse impact on our environment. And we know that can't be true. You're telling me that there's not one of those 1200 farms which aren't having a really difficult and detrimental impact on our marine environment? We know our coastal marine environment is under threat but that Government over there doesn't care.We heard Mark Cameron talk about the money that's involved and that's great but you need to strike a balance. You need to strike a balance because you need a sustainable environment because if you plunder your environment for everything you can right now it won't last for ever. It might not last for us; it certainly won't last for our kids and our grandkids. So this is classic lazy legislation the legislation of a lazy Minister who really doesn't care about the things that really matter. The economy is great but it can't exist outside of the environment. It's a subset of the environment.Where these marine farms are is of critical importance. What impact they have and whether they're well managed is of critical importance. And we want people to look at that look at the impact it has on the environment and the communities all of the communities—Jamie Arbuckle: It's already been done.Hon Dr DUNCAN WEBB: You say it's already been done but you know what? Things change. Life changes. The use of the local environment changes. The health of the fish stocks change. You're frozen in time. In fact you're worse. The New Zealand First party are dinosaurs. They think we're still under the Town and Country Planning Act. The fact is that this is typical of the New Zealand First approach to oceans and fisheries. The first thing they did was to get rid of the Kermadec sanctuary. What have they got to say about our most precious sealions? Don't worry about them. What are they doing with cameras on boats? Getting rid of them reviewing them—not that important.Hon Shane Jones: Point of order. I've taken on board your advice that my voice is moderated. Nowhere in this bill is there anything to do with sealions or other strange mammals. If it's cool for you to give me that admonition please spread it around.Hon Dr DUNCAN WEBB: Speaking to the point of order—ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Greg O'Connor): I'll deal with Mr Jones. For a man who provided ample context during his own presentation I think it's a little ripe for you to be upset by what is a relatively narrow broadening of the scope of the bill by the current speaker. Was there any time taken off during that?Hon Dr DUNCAN WEBB: No the clock was stopped. Thank you. That was a great intervention by that strange mammal over there.And there we have it—there we have it. I mean the fact of the matter is that we have a war on the environment coming from that coalition from the New Zealand First Party in particular who is basically an extractive party extracting what they can get from the National Party extracting what they can get from the environment. It's shameful that here they are. We absolutely think we should be encouraging aquaculture which is sustainable and high value but it does nothing for our international reputation or our exports if we are lowering the environmental standards of the products we produce.Climate change is down in Canterbury even where they have salmon farms. They are struggling because of climate change. And yet this does nothing to address the fact that water temperatures are changing and we need to readdress what the best locations and placing of those salmon farms and other aquaculture is. That is exactly the process that should be undertaken. I know that Mr Jones is at war with the World Wildlife Fund as well and that they've suggested—Hon Shane Jones: Goldfinger!Hon Dr DUNCAN WEBB: —said that they should give him perhaps a frozen finger because he's frozen in the past. I think that's quite apposite. So here you go Mr Jones like your heart come and get yourself a finger.