Smith StuartSTUART SMITH (National—Kaikōura): Thank you Madam Chair. I also want to talk about the commencement date but it really is in relation to the title of the bill as well in clause 1. What we've found out this afternoon is that schools and calf shows are going to be exempted from the bill. Now it's not in the bill—it's nowhere in here—so this must be under regulations. So when are these regulations going to be drafted? Are they being drafted are they ready to go so that the date—Tim van de Molen: What about A & P shows?STUART SMITH: Yeah—well A & P shows. That's a very good question Mr van de Molen has just raised: are A & P shows going to be exempted? I'm all for calf shows and those sorts of things to be continued on but they are a biosecurity risk because those calves do commingle and that's one way we know with M. bovis and a lot of diseases in fact—you know nose to nose contact will be a very easy way to transmit a lot of those diseases so it is a serious risk. But what in terms of the regulation-making power—when are the regulations being made? Is it going to be coming in all sitting there ready to go? Because what other regulations are there that we don't know about?I do support the concept of having some time for everybody who's affected by this bill—and it's a much wider group of people than we originally thought. It's not just farmers. It is people who have a vineyard say for example that could be grazing stock or an orchard that could be grazing stock on there or a lifestyle block; they might not own any stock but have stock grazing on those properties. They are going to be impacted by this bill. They may want to change the way they operate as a result of that. But do they know this is coming? Of course they don't because we've only just found out. So when's the opportunity for these people to arrange themselves in such a way that they won't be breaching and be captured by this new bill? I think that's something that hasn't been talked about. It is being rushed through.Look everybody understands the M. bovis issue is a problem but I don't think these two things need to be conflated together as much as they are because we all understand M. bovis is a problem. If this had to happen just as a result of the M. bovis outbreak why wasn't it done months ago? So that's not the case. This is really as we know pushed by the officials to get this bill drafted and we know that public servants—it's just in their nature—will overreach; they'll push the boundaries of what those regulations allow them to do.This is why the name of the bill—it looks very innocuous. So the title is the National Animal Identification and Tracing Amendment Act 2018. Well that's a very innocuous name but as we've heard this morning—warrantless searches seizure of goods copying of records without permission. All of those things—as I think the MP from Ōhāriu Brett Hudson mentioned this morning it's greater powers than we would have in the event of a terrorism threat. So this is hugely wide ranging. Most people will have no idea that this is coming their way. And as has been well stated the farmhouse the family home is the office. All of these things are being impacted on that. And this name this title doesn't cover that.Where people need to be able to understand what they're going to be liable for what they're being exposed to—and we've rushed this through this process. We've fought it all the way because albeit that we voted for the bill we wanted a full process so this could all be teased out so the public have an opportunity to understand what this really means. That opportunity has been taken away from us and from the public. And with the Act coming into force the day after the date on which it receives Royal assent—we don't know when that's going to be. If that's immediate then the people will not have the opportunity to understand that they could well be breaking the law through ignorance which is no defence. I think that's a great shame and it should be addressed by the Minister.