SpeechANNA LORCK (Labour—Tukituki): Thank you Mr Speaker. I tend to agree with Michael Woodhouse on how serious biosecurity risk is to our country. In fact I would put it up there as one of the greatest challenges we have to continue to protect our borders as a duty to this country. And I know this because it's been a passion of mine since I worked a few years back now on the foot-and-mouth New Zealand campaign for educating New Zealanders and farmers when there was a foot-and-mouth outbreak in the UK. One of the jobs I had was to travel with a UK farmer around the region talking to farmers about what the experience would be like if foot-and-mouth came to New Zealand. What that taught me was that education is one of the greatest ways to protect our borders. If passengers and people know about the risks to New Zealand we have a far better chance of protecting our borders.Another job I had on that was to go to Auckland Airport where they had the beagle dogs who were trained in sniffing out fruit in the airport. And during that time there were signs everywhere showing up where people needed to be reminded about remembering to throw out those apple cores before they came through our borders. Now those dogs were a very good way of educating passengers to be able to see Oh those dogs are reminding me that I'm not to take through anything that could be a biosecurity risk."When I first read this bill I looked and went "Oh great. I think this is fantastic. We're going to tighten our penalties and increase our penalties and it is coming to the Primary Production Committee which I am on." I was looking forward to hearing the submissions but unfortunately Cyclone Gabrielle struck and I was back in the region when the submissions were being heard. So as the last speaker in the House tonight I've been able to pick up a lot on what was said in the submission process and I was surprised to find that an increase in fine did not see a decrease in the number of people being prosecuted. And I looked at that and I thought "Well that sort of actually backs up that education is the best way to keep us front and centre of protecting our borders." We've talked a lot about protecting New Zealand's $55 billion primary sector industry. And over the course of this Government we have invested a huge amount of taxpayer money right into protecting our borders. In fact it's one of the investments that I think across the House people would agree is a good investment one that we should continue to do because heaven help us if we ever had an incursion of brown marmorated stink bugs—brown marmorated stink bug is that right? I hope I've said it right. And we do have to put up the strongest armour to do so. Again when I think about education if you spot one of these brown marmorated stink bugs you need to know what it looks like and you need to know where to report it.During the speeches tonight we have heard some interesting stories and none will stick further in my mind but that from Joseph Mooney who happened to eat a wasp on an apple. Man that must have hurt if it stung him. By crikey it's no wonder it's become a childhood memory. In fact one could use that in an advertisement for educating around biosecurity so "Let's just make sure you leave those apples and wasps behind: wasp what you're thinking."! Now that would go down a treat wouldn't it?Hon Member: There's a stinging ring to it.ANNA LORCK: A stinging ring to it. Gosh it's all coming to me. I don't even have to think about them. They just bring them on. And then of course we had foot in mouth—in mouth—rather than foot-and-mouth. Look the intention of this bill was there but we've seen that a fine would not see a significant decrease in the number of people bringing through apples by mistake or more intentionally as we heard from Mr Woodhouse. But I would like to pick up that if someone does deliberately make an incorrect or false declaration to try and conceal items the consequences are more severe. In fact if someone is convicted of deliberately smuggling they could be fined up to $100000 and be sentenced to up to five years in prison. So if we were to take that suggestion of Mr Woodhouse about harsher penalties—perhaps saying at our borders that you can face five years in prison if you deliberately smuggle in something illegal into our country that has a biosecurity risk—then that would work as well. So all in all everybody in the House agrees we must keep biosecurity risk and biosecurity education front and centre when travelling into New Zealand. Again I can say to Steph Lewis who was speaking prior to me how we had put through a bill of hers not that long ago around ensuring we have more videos on planes and have them perhaps in other languages as well so that when passengers are watching—Hon Michael Woodhouse: They're already there. They are there.ANNA LORCK: Yes that was the legislation. That's the sort of deterrent—education education education. I must say another way of making sure that they learn early is when you are travelling with your young ones as I have done myself and you suddenly find that they are about to go through Customs and they open the pencil case and out comes the pair of scissors. I remember this well where Livia had taken her pencil case to go on a trip with us and suddenly she lost her scissors because she'd forgotten to take them out of her pencil case. Now I don't think she'll ever forget that because she was quite attached to those scissors. She uses them quite a lot and it's cutting into my memory! Yes that's right. But it's those things that if you learn once when you are young—just like that wasp in the mouth—I think that you would never bite back. So on that I commend this bill—I don't commend; we're voting against this. We're voting against this bill. But on that there you go."