4. Question No. 4—ChildrenHon WILLOW-JEAN PRIME (Labour) to the Minister for ChildrenQuestion No. 4—Children4. Hon WILLOW-JEAN PRIME (Labour) to the Minister for Children: Does she stand by all her statements and actions?Hon KAREN CHHOUR (Minister for Children): Yes.Hon Willow-Jean Prime: Do any of the 10 boys in the boot camp pilot have a history of care and protection and if so what does she say to abuse in care survivor Tupua Urlich when he says Part of acknowledging the harm that has been done is taking a more empathetic approach to the healing for our young people. You don't just inflict trauma and abuse upon them and when those signs and symptoms of your failures show up in the community lock'em up."?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: To the first part of the question yes I would assume that they have had care and protection before because they are in a place that has care and protection under Oranga Tamariki.Hon Willow-Jean Prime: What are specific examples of how the boot camps will incorporate a Te Ao Māori approach when nine out of 10 of the young people participating are Māori?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: There will be a wide range of activities and there'll be a wide range of things that these young people will take part in. Each young person will have a full assessment before they come into this programme and we will make sure that everything that is done around these young people is done to their needs and their best interests. We have many people who have come forward to bring their skills and even in the Te Ao Māori space to make sure that these young people get everything they need.Hon Willow-Jean Prime: What are specific examples of the day-to-day military-style activities that young offenders will participate in in the boot camps that she launched last week?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: I do not have the exact activities in front of me but I have set the expectations that those will be made available to the young people. It may look different on a day-to-day basis. This is not something that will be one-size-fits-all approach and we must be able to adapt as we go along and that's all I have to say.Hon Brooke van Velden: Does she stand by her statement: "No one regardless of their race gender or any other identity deserves to be in a situation where they are abused and denied basic care and I am committed to doing everything within my power to ensure that no child or young person in New Zealand suffers abuse in State or faith-based care."?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: Yes and as I've said before and as I will emphasise over and over again what we have read in those reports and what comes up over and over again is that nobody did anything. It was easier to stand in this place and do nothing than do what is right. I will stand here and make sure that every decision and every moment of my time here—that the best interests and the safety of our children come first.Hon Willow-Jean Prime: Can she guarantee that the issues that have been reported in youth justice facilities recently such as roughing up children silencing informants and inappropriate relationships with staff have been addressed and will not occur at the boot camp at Te Au rere a te Tonga?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: Thank you Mr Speaker. We know just as recently as last year that this behaviour was happening. We cannot accept that that is happening and I have been to visit these facilities personally more than once to make sure that they know that this behaviour will not be tolerated. Changes have been made and we will make sure that there is transparency and availability of support when needed."