Xu-Nan Lawrence; Brown SimeonDr LAWRENCE XU-NAN (Green): Thank you Madam Chair. I would like some clarifications from the Minister because I've been kind of waiting since the title to ask this question because it's pertaining specifically to clause 7.CHAIRPERSON (Barbara Kuriger): Good idea! [Member pauses speech] Sorry I just said Good idea!" because it's specific to the clause. Dr LAWRENCE XU-NAN: Ha ha! Playing the long game. Thank you Madam Chair. So Minister you have already mentioned—and I appreciate the fact that you laid out what is in section 175A Land Transport Act around that "The Minister must not later than 30 June 2024 initiate a review …". And the Minister already mentioned before that if you initiate the review there may not be any opportunities to make changes because what is being repealed—section 175(1)(c) to (e)—is already locked into 2017.However can I just check: my presumption when it comes to something like this is that "initiate a review" doesn't necessarily mean that the review must be completed within a particular period—it just means that we need to have a process in place to start reviewing for it. And I'm curious to know in this case when we're looking at section 175(1)(c) to (e) that when we are looking at the initiation of the review what outcome is the Minister hoping to achieve by making the presumption that two years of data between 2023 and 2024 only would see a viable trend on how successful this was and meets the criteria that the Minister has just laid out in section 175A(2) onwards in terms of things that the Minister must take into account?So I guess my clarification that I would like from the Minister is the current settings was put in place for us to see that five-year trend but now by removing that and I don't know how long the Minister intends for this review to take place but presumably that the original intention—if the Minister would like to clarify as well—is to see that five year trend. So the review that the Minister is intending on conducting would that also take place in consideration of that five-year trend? And if not and because we are seeing the repeal 175(1)(c) to (e) if that's not the case what are we able to perceive or what are we able to be enlightened by two years' worth of data? So if the Minister would mind clarifying that. Hon SIMEON BROWN (Minister of Transport): Thank you Madam Chair. The questions that relate to the review I think are outside the particular clause here in relation to what this clause is doing. The clause is doing two things. One is it's removing the standard for the next three years and then allowing them to be set by regulation. The review is underway in order to provide—well one to fulfil what the law requires and two to provide advice as to what those standards should be. That that work is under way.And I note the member is asking about time frames and all of those—they're all good questions but ultimately they're not necessarily part of this clause in terms of what this clause does. But what I would say is I'm not going to be doing a review for multiple years because that would not be—ultimately decisions need to be made targets need to be set.Also the Government's position has been very clear: we support having a standard but we also believe that there should be the opportunity for that standard to be amended by regulation rather than having it prescribed in legislation which is what this clause is doing."