Woods MeganHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Labour—Wigram): Thank you Madam Chair and I thank the member for his answer to my question around the Clean Car Standard. The Minister of Transport was aware that there is a legislative review of the Clean Car Standard but the reason I put that question to the Minister while being aware of the required legislative review is that policy orthodoxy would dictate that if you're not going to have something like a feebate like we had in place—in other jurisdictions what we would have seen is acceleration of mechanisms such as clean car standards. So in light of the fact that we have this legislation before us today—this bill—to repeal the policy mechanism of using a rebate for customers I'd like to know further from the Minister whether he is thinking of bringing forward any review of the Clean Car Standard. In other jurisdictions what we have seen as an alternative is more stringent carbon dioxide emission reduction requirements on vehicles which in some jurisdictions has led to a phase-out of internal combustion engine vehicles. So whether these are issues that the Minister is considering or that he has received advice on and has discussed with officials—I'd be interested to know that. But there's a number of other areas that I'd like to know from the Minister what he has received advice on and one is in relation to the emissions profile associated with this legislative change. Of course this was a policy that was absolutely critical to the demonstration path in the emissions reduction plan (ERP) for the transport sector. It was doing a lot of heavy lifting and there are going to be massive consequences to what that ERP for budgets two and three look like. So what advice has the Minister received of impacts on those demonstration paths in the ERP but also what advice has he received on what he's going to do instead of this because of course transport does have a large burden within both emissions budget 2 and emissions budget 3 in terms of the ERP?So what is he going to do to replace those because of course from 2025 to 2030 the demonstration path sees the annual light electric vehicle (EV) registration climb from 11 percent to 67 percent of the market and reach 100 percent by 2035. So across those emissions budgets what is he going to do to ensure that we can meet those pathways and if we're not what are the policies and measures that he's thinking of putting in place to replace those? These are very large numbers. They have very large consequences for New Zealand and they have very large consequences for whether or not we can meet our emissions reductions.I'm also interested to know from the member what advice he has received on the impact of sales of EVs. It's not just the new EVs which seem to be quite a focus of this debate but some data that I read out in an earlier stage of this debate actually showed that there was a preponderance of the uptake of this scheme on new to New Zealand second-hand vehicles and this was a way that a lot of people a lot of households—and I know a lot of households in my electorate were actually finding cost-saving measures. They were buying second-hand imported EVs and drastically reducing their petrol bills for their households. They were finding this was actually an important way in which they were keeping household budgets under constraint.Now I would assume the Minister would have modelling so I'd be interested in hearing from him that this would be one of the most elastic parts of the demand for these households in terms of the uptake of electric vehicles within the second-hand market and about what he's going to do if there is not a rebate scheme to help those households. What's going to be put in its stead to ensure that we are helping those households? I know that I've also spoken to a number of retired people in my electorate who have found a really good way to make ends meet—to buy a second-hand used EV—and it's much much less onerous on their household budgets to charge their vehicle than to fill it up.The other issue that I'd like to know from the Minister in addition to any advice he might have received around sales—but I'd also be interested in impact on sales on new EVs because of course this will impact the targets that we have in those emissions budgets. But I'd also like to know—[Time expired]