Rurawhe AdrianADRIAN RURAWHE (Labour—Te Tai Hauāuru): Tēnā koe e Te Māngai o Te Whare otirā e tika ana kia tuku mihi atu ki Te Atiawa ki ngā hapū Manukōrihi Ōtaraua otirā ngā iwi katoa o Taranaki. Ka huri aku whakaaro ki a rātou mā i te wāhi ngaro ki a rātou mā i hinga mai nā puta noa o Taranaki i runga i ēnei whenua i runga i te whenua e kīia nei ko Pekapeka otirā ngā whenua katoa o Taranaki. E tika ana kia tuku mihi ake ki a rātou mā otinoa ki a tātou o Te Whare nei tēnei ahau tuku mihi atu anō hoki ki tātou.[Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker but at the same time it is apt that I accord an accolade to Te Atiawa the hapū Manukōrihi and Ōtaraua and indeed to all the iwi of Taranaki.My thoughts turn to those in the place lost from view in conjunction with all of those who have passed away throughout Taranaki on these lands and in particular this land called Pekapeka but indeed on all the lands of Taranaki. It is fitting that we pay a tribute to them all.]I rise to speak on this bill the New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill. I thank the member for New Plymouth Jonathan Young for his explanation in a very brief way of the history of this issue around the Waitara lands. It of course goes a lot further and that is explained in another bill before the House the Te Atiawa Claims Settlement Bill.I want to acknowledge all of the interested parties in this particular bill and the member for New Plymouth has outlined the competing interests associated with all of those interested parties. Can I go through a list of who I think the interested parties are and give a message out to each and every one of them. First of all I acknowledge the leaseholders who have lived on these lands—on endowment lands with perpetual leases—who through this bill will have the opportunity to purchase the land that they live on. I want to acknowledge Manukōrihi and Ōtaraua as well the original owners of this land. I cannot help but recognise the pain that they are going through right now—the pain around the loss of land from 1865. We talk about historical and intergenerational trauma; the current generation holds that trauma today. It would be wrong not to acknowledge that.Within the settlement process Te Atiawa received a mandate from all of its hapū as I understand and negotiated a settlement based on their aspirations under the mana that that mandate gave them. Could I mention at this stage that the settlement process is a flawed one and it is incumbent upon every settlement group every iwi that enters into that process to understand what the process can deliver what it will never deliver and whether or not they can live with it. That is the most important thing in that process.We find ourselves in this House having two bills before it. We are debating this one here around the Waitara endowment land but there is another bill before this House that will be debated tomorrow and that is the Te Atiawa Claims Settlement Bill. Within that bill the rights of Manukōrihi and the rights of Ōtaraua will be extinguished by that bill and the settlement that they will receive for their lands is within that bill.We on this side of the House—along with everyone in this House I believe—believe in the endurance of all settlements and the Te Atiawa bill like every other settlement bill must endure. It has been through a process it has been accepted by their people and one day in the near future that deed of settlement will be enabled by an Act of Parliament. But I still feel strongly for the people of Manukōrihi and Ōtaraua. Their rights under that bill will be extinguished and I think it should be noted in this House today. They will never give up their fight to have that land returned—that is very clear. They will never forget. They will carry it generation to generation and it is an unfortunate thing that it was not able to be settled to their satisfaction through the Te Atiawa settlement bill. But that is an issue really for Te Atiawa and ngā hapū o Te Atiawa.We have our part to play as parliamentarians because we enable those settlement claims. Te Kotahitanga o Te Atiawa Trust is an interested party as well with competing interests. Through this bill there will be land transferred to Te Atiawa from the council. They will sit at the table that makes the decisions around how the money that is collected through that trust is distributed. They have an interest in that they will make up 50 percent of that trust. The New Plymouth District Council also—and I acknowledge the presence of the Mayor of New Plymouth Andrew Judd and councillors—has a competing interest as well I believe. Its interest is to take into account the needs of its community the needs of Waitara the needs of the leaseholders and the needs of the iwi who are within its rohe. So it has an interest as well. The Waitara community under this bill has an interest. The Waitara community will be the beneficiaries of the collection of the rents on the leasehold properties and they will be the beneficiaries also of the sale of the leasehold lands. So they have an interest in this.So with so many interests—conflicting interests—what is the thing that we as responsible parliamentarians should be doing? I believe and my party believes that the best way forward for all of the interested parties is that they make submissions to the select committee so that the bill can be thoroughly examined by the select committee and so that everyone with interests in this bill has their say. So to each one of those competing interested parties I say to all of you that you must ensure that you have your say. You must make sure that you give the select committee compelling arguments and reasons as to why your interests should be above someone else's. That is really up to the communities the interested parties in this bill.My preference actually is that this bill goes to the Māori Affairs Committee. I think it ought to go there. It is well led by Nuk Korako and the membership of the Māori Affairs Committee would have an in-depth knowledge and skill and ability to decipher all of the issues associated with the competing interests on this bill. I highly recommend that we do that.There are some aspirational things also about this bill. The future of Waitara—what it might look like in the future. Would it not be wonderful if we could address all of those issues through the iwi through the hapū through the wider Waitara community and all of the parties interested so that we could get to a place where Waitara can truly move forward so that it can use the benefits of this trust if that is what the people of Waitara want?Nō reira kāore e roa tēnei tū kāore e kore ā te wā ka tukuna atu ētahi atu kōrero ki tēnei pire. Mā te wā ka whakarite mātou i tā mātou tū i runga i tēnei pire mēnā ka pōti ka tautoko ai ka whakahē ai rānei. Nō reira tēnā koutou tēnā koutou kia ora mai tātou.[Therefore this contribution is not a long one and without a doubt other contributions will be made on this bill. In time we will deliberate our stance on this bill and vote whether to support or oppose it. So congratulations and accolades to you collectively my appreciation to us all.]