Tuiono Teanau; Davis KelvinTEANAU TUIONO (Green): Thank you Madam Chair. I te tuatahi e mihi atu ki a koutou ngā wānanga. Nau mai ki te kōhanga reo o te Pāremata. Aue taukiri e. Heoi anō he pai ake ngā piropiro o ō mātou nei mokopuna kei roto i ō rātou nei kōhanga reo. Heoi taku pātai ki te Minita: e pēhea tēnei ture e aro ana ki ngā rangatiratanga e hiahiatia e ngā wānanga ki roto i tēnā pire? Tēnā pea ka taea e koe te kōrero mai te horopaki katoa me pēhea anō e tautoko ana tēnei ture i ērā i hiahiatia ai e ngā wānanga. Kia ora.[Firstly I acknowledge you the wānanga. Welcome to the early childhood centre of Parliament. Oh my goodness. Anyway our grandchildren are feeling better now in their early childhood centres. However my question to the Minister: how will this legislation address the autonomy that the wānanga desire in this bill? Perhaps you could speak about the entire context of how this bill will support those things that the wānanga desire. Thank you.]Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Associate Minister of Education (Māori Education)): Thank you Madam Chair. Tēnā koe. E mihi kau atu ki te mema mō tana pātai. Koia te tino kiko o tēnei pire. Taku taenga tuatahi atu ki Te Wānanga o Raukawa e rima tau i mua ko te tino raruraru tā rātou tino amuamu ko te pōhēhētanga o te Kāwanatanga nō rātou te mana whakahaere. Nā arā ka kī mai ki a māua ko te Minita Mātauranga o taua taima a Chris Hipkins me whakawehewehe te rangatiratanga i te Kāwanatanga; tukuna te rangatiratanga te mana whakahaere o ngā wānanga.Nā reira ko tēnei pire te whakatinanatanga o aua moemoeā o Te Wānanga o Raukawa me ngā wānanga atu. Mehemea e hiahia ana rātou ki te whai i te huarahi o te Category B Wānanga mā te rangatiratanga e whakahaere. Mehemea e hiahia ana rātou ki te noho tonu kei raro i te maru o te Kāwanatanga e pai anō hoki tēnā. Engari he whiringa mō ngā wānanga.[Thank you. I thank the member for his question. That is the real meat of this bill. When I first arrived at Te Wānanga o Raukawa five years ago the main problem their main complaint was about the mistaken belief of the Government that they have the authority of management. So they then said to myself and the Minister of Education of the time Chris Hipkins the autonomy should be separated from the Government; transfer the autonomy the authority of management over the wānanga.So this bill is the implementation of that dream of Te Wānanga o Raukawa and the other wānanga. If they want to follow the path of a Category B Wānanga it will be up to the autonomy to manage. If they want to stay under the mantle of the Government that's also good. But it is a choice for the wānanga.]TEANAU TUIONO (Green): Thank you Madam Chair. He whakaaro tāpiri. He pātai tēnei ki te Minita i te mea i mea atu a Nāhinara he hanaweti noa iho tēnei pire. Heoi kei te tata tō tātou wā ki te poupoutanga o te wā e tino hiakai tēnei mō tētahi hanaweti. Heoi anō e te Minita ko tāku pātai: ka taea e koe te kōrero he aha ngā rerekē i waenganui i ngā ara e toru? Me pēhea e tautoko ai i te ia o ngā moemoeā o ia wānanga?[An additional thought. This is a question for the Minister because National said that this bill is just a sandwich. However our time is drawing close to high noon and I'm getting really hungry for a sandwich. However Minister my question: could you speak about the differences between the three pathways? How will the gist of the dreams of each wānanga be supported?]Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Associate Minister of Education (Māori Education)): Āe ko te rerekētanga: kei raro i tētahi o ngā momo wānanga mā te wānanga e whakahoki ki te Karauna. Kei tētahi atu huarahi mā ngā wānanga e whakautu ki ngā iwi ngā iwi nā rātou i whakatinana i whakaturea ai ngā wānanga. Koia te tino rerekē o ngā huarahi e toru. Ko te huarahi tuatoru ko te status quo. Horekau e pai ki ngā wānanga ko te status quo engari koirā te rerekē o ngā huarahi. [Yes the difference: under one type of wānanga the wānanga answers to the Crown. On another track the wananga answers to the iwi the iwi that implemented and enacted the wānanga. That is the main difference of the three pathways. The third pathway is the status quo. The wānanga are not amenable to the status quo but that is the difference of the pathways.]