Stanford EricaERICA STANFORD (National—East Coast Bays): Thank you Madam Chair. I want to go back to clauses 82 83 and 84 and just elaborate on what my colleague Tim van de Molen was talking about in terms of the health and safety. So under clause 82 it allows the employees who are subject to the fair pay agreement (FPA) to attend meetings. In fact if you count them all up there's two three four five and then another one in clause 84 that are allowed to be two hours long. I think the point that I want to make around health and safety is not regarding the union reps going into businesses but the taking out of the staff in order to attend these meetings. I want to ask the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety the question around health and safety of let's say petrol stations which is as we all know highly important in that sort of environment. If there was to be an FPA around gas station attendants and there was a meeting in Auckland for two hours as I read it in the bill all of those workers who were subject to the FPA could and probably would attend the meeting. Now those positions are actually highly trained in terms of emergency response if anything were to happen on the forecourt in such a volatile situation.So my question around health and safety is: was there any proposal to put in the bill a requirement for the union to hold multiple meetings that the employees could pick from so that we didn't have a situation where there was for example one meeting in Auckland where every single gas station attendant who was subject to this FPA would be required to and would probably want to attend this meeting leaving no one who was suitably trained or certainly not enough suitably trained people to man the forecourts and in the case of an emergency would put those businesses and potentially people at risk.I guess my question because as I've mentioned to the Minister this could happen not just once but two three four five maybe six times—and I just wanted to know from the Minister whether or not he would support a Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) if it was to be introduced that would require the unions in those cases where health and safety was potentially an issue to hold multiple meetings so that the workers could attend one of a number of meetings therefore staggering the employees so that they weren't all attending a meeting at the same time.So that was my question around safety and it certainly wasn't anything to do with unions entering workplaces; it was to do with the employees leaving the workplace to attend these meetings. I can think of other occupations—ambulance drivers care workers anywhere where there is a particular health and safety issue.Setting that aside health and safety of course there are other concerns as well: just normal day-to-day business and as we know we've got a workforce crisis which we haven't seen in 50 years because of our immigration settings—that's for another day. But it does mean that businesses are under a certain amount of pressure and stress and are already having to close their doors and to have all of their workers out potentially at one time where there wasn't ability to stagger meetings could seriously impact their business.So question to the Minister: was that proposed does he think it's an issue and would he consider an SOP just slightly amending that to allow for staggered meetings?