Pugh MaureenMAUREEN PUGH (National): Thank you very much Madam Chair. Unlike the Government of today we still feel there is value in debating this bill before us and we still have quite a bit of detail that we would like to explore so I'm grateful to you for the call.Thank you to the Minister in the chair Carmel Sepuloni for your answers to some of the questions that were raised in the previous committee stage last week. But there was one in particular that I raised that was not addressed tonight and that relates to proposed new clause 6A in Supplementary Order Paper 187 inserting Part 1A new section 5C(4)(a) which was the question around the notices that the board will provide to the public around the scopes of practice and that they would be available on an internet site. My question to the Minister of Social Development was that the words publicly accessible internet site" be included on that to ensure that anyone can have access to that information and therefore make some representation should they so wish. So that question is still alive and well.In relation to the scopes of practice I do have some questions around that particularly around the process that will be followed should someone wish to challenge the content of the scope of practice and how that will be built into the systems that the board may develop. So for instance who will they challenge should they not agree with the content of the scopes of practice? Will there be built into the process an appeal so that members in the profession may be able to come back to an entity and provide some feedback or challenge the decision that the board has been making? It would also be helpful to know if there are going to be some parameters built around that so that people are aware of the types of things that they may be able to challenge. We're simply asking this question so that we can be assured that there is a meaningful process built around some of the scopes of practice and the challenges that may arise.Some of the other questions that have been raised tonight also apply to this particular question about how these challenges may be considered and who considers it. Will it actually be the board itself or perhaps the board may choose to set up a subcommittee to deal with any challenges to the scopes or will that be an independent process? One of the things that may actually be challenged and we've heard that tonight is around the cultural competence that may be built into the scopes of practice and because we are devoid of the background to how this Supplementary Order Paper 187 was developed then we need to be assured and the public and the profession needs to be assured that should they feel that there has been some cultural competence shortfalls these can be addressed within a system of challenge.There have been some other issues that were raised through the submission process that are applicable to the scopes of practice and one of those that was raised by several submitters was the role of the current workforce who are considered volunteers. I know in my own area that the role of volunteers in social work and in other aspects of social work in the broader sense is totally invaluable. We cannot place a value on it but the personnel that are undertaking that work are absolute treasures in our community and we just want to know from the Minister how they transition into these new roles and fit under the scope of practice that will be developed? This was raised by several submitters. Age Concern for example raised it as part of their submission and were concerned that this may actually discourage volunteers from becoming involved in the sector and we certainly don't want to do that. We want to actually involve them as much as possible.So they're just a couple more questions that I have for the Minister. Thank you."