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Urgent Debates Declined — Police—Investigation into Abusive ImagesText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUrgent Debates Declined — Police—Investigation into Abusive Images[Sitting date: 10 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:7803. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Urgent Debates DeclinedPolice—Investigation into Abusive ImagesMr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from Tracey Martin seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 the actions of the police in relation to degrading images posted online by a group of high school boys. In order for an urgent debate to be held there must be a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. It was reported yesterday that the police had warned boys who posted images and that charges would not be laid. Although the Minister of Police is answerable to this House for police operational matters under our system of Government the decision to prosecute or not is not a matter of ministerial responsibility.The purpose of an urgent debate is to hold the Government accountable for an action that has occurred for which it is responsible. There must be a distinct Government responsibility for the particular case that has been sought to debate. An urgent debate is not an opportunity for a general debate of issues of concern to members. The application is therefore declined. [Interruption] Order! [Interruption] Order! That sort of behaviour is—[Interruption] Order!
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Vote: Estimates Debate — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Estimates Debate — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5631. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That Vote Lands and Vote Primary Industries and Food Safety be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Votes agreed to.
Vote: Estimates Debate — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Estimates Debate — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5604. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That Vote Justice Vote Attorney-General Vote Corrections Vote Courts Vote Justice Vote Parliamentary Counsel Vote Police and Vote Serious Fraud be agreed to.Ayes 62New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Votes agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5593. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That clause 2 be agreed to.Ayes 62New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Clause 2 agreed to.Bill to be reported without amendment presently.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5593. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 46New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14.Noes 74New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5593. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That clause 1 be agreed to.Ayes 62New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Clause 1 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5593. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 62New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5581. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That schedule 5 be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Schedule 5 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5580. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That schedule 4 be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Schedule 4 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5580. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That schedule 3 be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Schedule 3 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5580. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the question That schedule 2 be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Schedule 2 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5580. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That schedule 1 be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Schedule 1 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5580. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That Part 3 be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Part 3 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5579. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Estimates Debate — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Estimates Debate — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5641. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): I am sorry to interrupt the honourable member. The time has come for me to report progress.Progress to be reported presently.House resumed.The Chairperson reported the New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill without amendment and progress on the Appropriation (2015/16 Estimates) Bill.Report adopted.
Tisch Lindsay: Estimates Debate — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Estimates Debate — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5631. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): We now come to the votes on the social development and the housing sector—volume B.5 volume 10. The question is that Vote Building and Housing and Vote Social Development stand part of the schedules.
Borrows Chester: Estimates Debate — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: Estimates Debate — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5617. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): Members we come now to the votes in the primary sector—volume B.5 volume 9. The question is that Vote Lands and Vote Primary Industries and Food Safety stand part of the schedules.
Tisch Lindsay: Estimates Debate — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Estimates Debate — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5604. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Members we now come to the votes in the Māori Other Populations and Cultural Sector—volume B.5 volume 8. The question is that Vote Arts Culture and Heritage Vote Internal Affairs Vote Māori Development Vote Pacific Peoples Vote Sport and Recreation Vote Statistics Vote Treaty Negotiations and Vote Women stand part of the schedules.
Clendon David: Estimates Debate — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeClendon David: Estimates Debate — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5594. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DAVID CLENDON (Green): The point that I was making at the earlier sitting was that it is not that we are spending too little on the suite of portfolios—across police corrections courts and so on—but that we do not spend the money wisely and that we need to reinvest in a different manner and spend money on solutions. In that sense I think the obvious gap in this year’s appropriations is around the police. The police budget has been flat for a number of years. In effect it has suffered a funding cut overa number of years.The police have found efficiencies in their operations and they are using technology well and wisely to the extent that they can. Nevertheless if they are to deliver on the Prevention First strategy for example they will require well-resourced officers of good morale to do that hard grinding work to prevent crime in the communities. We will not achieve that if we continue to underfund the police as we are undoubtedly doing this year in these appropriations. The solution is not to turn the police into a user-pays force which is the intent of a bill before this House—the Policing (Cost Recovery) Amendment Bill—that effectively would have police running around with an invoice book to charge people for vetting initially and later potentially for anything from search and rescue through to educating businesses on how to make their premises secure and to public education about crime prevention. That is an intolerable proposition and one that we should not entertain at any level. We need to fund the police force properly in order for it to do its job well and we know that it wants to do its job well. We should enable it to do that.In terms of corrections we know that privatisation is not the answer there. That might appeal initially as a cost-saving measure but over time as we have seen quite recently it is in fact a false economy and the public sector can provide corrections services. There is a moral imperative that only the State should manage the incarceration of people. There is also a major economic imperative. Thank you.
Tisch Lindsay: Estimates Debate — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Estimates Debate — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5594. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Members we now turn to the Appropriation (2015/16 Estimates) Bill. When we were last progressing the estimates debate we were debating the votes in the justice sector—volume B.5 volume 7—Vote Attorney-General Vote Corrections Vote Courts Vote Justice Vote Parliamentary Counsel Vote Policeand Vote Serious Fraud. David Clendon had the call and he has 2 minutes and 5 seconds remaining should he wish.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5593. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Can I just remind members that votes are taken in silence.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Trevor Mallard to clause 2 be agreed to:in subclause (2) replace “on the day” with “5 years”.
Naylor Jono: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNaylor Jono: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5593. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JONO NAYLOR (National): I move That the question be now put.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5592. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): No you have got to get it right when you move closure motions. I will call Carmel Sepuloni in a moment. The member must go back to Standing Order 136 for the specific wording that you need to use—nothing else; just focus on that.
Naylor Jono: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNaylor Jono: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5592. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JONO NAYLOR (National): I move that the motion the question be now put.
Hayes Joanne: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes Joanne: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5591. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOANNE HAYES (Third Whip—National): I move That the question be now put.
Smith Nick: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSmith Nick: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5584. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon Dr NICK SMITH (Minister for the Environment):We are a Government that does what we say and what is more we actually do what we say. What is extraordinary in the contributions I have heard from Labour members is that—only 9 months ago they campaigned at the election saying they wanted to change the flag. They then come to this House less than 9 months later and I hear speeches from Stuart Nash saying that he loves the New Zealand flag and that we should never propose to change the New Zealand flag. There is a very simple message to New Zealand from this debate: you cannot trust a word that Labour says to you during the election. Its message is that whatever it says in the election it will regardless of principle change its position as it suits itself. It lacks integrity it is untrustworthy and it is duplicitous and that has been so heavily reinforced in this debate.There have been questions about the process by which the two referendums will determine New Zealand’s flag. It is interesting that I have gone back and checked the record and found that both the New Zealand First Party and the Labour Party absolutely supported the two-referendum process around the choice of MMP. At that time those parties said that it was the right process. They said that people cannot make a choice—and I quote Winston Peters who said: “People can’t make a choice about changing from first past the post unless they know the alternative.” My question to New Zealand First members is how can people make an intelligent choice about changing the flag without knowing the alternative?This bill appropriately named the New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill is about National doing what it said it would do unlike other parties which are all over the paddock and which are duplicitous and untrustworthy and that is why we should put this bill through this Committee stage.
Borrows Chester: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5581. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): Before I take a call I would just like to point out to members that those in the Chamber and those listening at home will no doubt be able to recite in this very wide-ranging debate around clauses 1 and 2 virtually every point that has been made so far in the course of the debate. It is also important to note that repetition is a trigger for the Chair to call the end of a person’s call. So I encourage people to be interesting and creative in their debates.
Mitchell Mark: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMitchell Mark: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5579. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney): I move That the question be now put.
O'Rourke Denis: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeO'Rourke Denis: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5579. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DENIS O’ROURKE (NZ First): I wanted to ask the Minister in the chair the Hon Nick Smith about how he interprets parts of new section 5A in clause 69. When I read parts of that new section I get a little bit confused about what it is actually trying to achieve because we have in new section 5A(2): “Any person or body (other than a government department) may use the 1902 Flag except where required by law”—except where required by law—“to use the New Zealand Flag or another specified flag for a particular purpose.” Then I go down to subclause (8) which creates new sections 10(2) and (3) in the Act. It says: “The Minister may either in any notice issued under subsection (1) or otherwise set out for general information and guidance rules of conduct and the etiquette to be followed in the flying or other use of any of the following: (a) the New Zealand Flag: (b) the 1902 Flag:”. But then new section 10(3) says: “Any rules set out under subsection (2) do not have the force of law.”So we have in one provision reference to “except where required by law” and then further on we have a provision that empowers the Minister to set out rules of conduct and etiquette to be followed in regulations. However the rules do not have the force of law. So I am a little bit confused about how we interpret the words “except where required by law” in new section 5A(2) and the other provisions to which I have referred. I actually think that if anybody was to read this legislation they would not know whether or not really they were actually allowed to use the 1902 flag or not with or without regulations or whether or not they had the force of law for the purposes of new section 5A(2) or not.So I think there needs to be some answer given to how we should look at all of this and in particular think about people who would look at this legislation and say: “OK maybe we have a new flag. I hope there is not but maybe there is a new flag—one of those gormless symbols that we saw in a list the other day. Maybe there is one of those but am I still entitled to fly this current flag or not?” If you look at all of that legislation I think you would be pretty hard-pressed to know what position you were in with regard to that—I really do. I think that needs to be answered and the position clarified and if it cannot be clarified then the bill should not proceed because it is just not clear enough.
Simpson Scott: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5579. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): I move That the question be now put.
Naylor Jono: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNaylor Jono: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5578. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JONO NAYLOR (National): I move That the question be now put.
Nash Stuart: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNash Stuart: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5571. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]STUART NASH (Labour—Napier): I will make it good because this bill is a very very poor bill. We know this. It has been reiterated. In fact the vast majority of New Zealanders know this. When I speak to New Zealanders in my electorate they say to me: “What about employment? What about job opportunities? What about economic development?”. They ask the question: why is the Government wasting money on a flag referendum when there are—
Borrows Chester: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: New Zealand Flag Referendums Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5571. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): When we were last debating this bill the Committee was debating Part 3 and Stuart Nash had the call. He has 20 seconds remaining.Hon Member: Make it good.
Carter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Trade Agreements—Saudi Agri-huband Release of InformationText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Trade Agreements—Saudi Agri-huband Release of Information[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5571. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from the Hon David Parker seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 the release of documents pertaining to the Government’s dealings with a Saudi businessman. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. There must be an element of urgency for a matter to take precedence over other business. The proper use of taxpayer funds is an important issue. The question is whether the release of documents is an issue so urgent that the ordinary business of the House should be set aside to address it. I am not persuaded that the business of the House should be set aside today. However I note that the Auditor-General has been asked to investigate the matter. Should she do so then the findings of that investigation may warrant a debate in the House at that time. The application is therefore declined.
Fox Marama: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFox Marama: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5570. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]12.MARAMA FOX (Co-Leader—Māori Party) to the Minister for Social Development: Has the Minister provided through the Child Youth and Family review opportunity to ensure that children are not being alienated from their whānau throughout the process of the modernisation in the review?Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister for Social Development): The Child Youth and Family review of course is still ongoing and I have only just received the first report from the panel. But we have throughout the review to date taken great lengths to ensure that the voices of children are heard and I have set up an advisory committee consisting of eight young people who have experienced care under the current Child Youth and Family system. I have also made two appointments to the review panel who have extensive experience in Māori as Māori make up more than 50 percent of the numbers of children in care.
Carter David: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5570. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] Order! I am going to allow the member to put the leave in view of the fact that we have done it before. If the House decides it is in order so be it. If the House—[Interruption] Order! The leave was put without us knowing where the question was going. I am going to put the leave again. It will then be over to the House to decide. Leave is sought by Marama Fox to ask a question of the Minister for Social Development. Is there any objection? There is none.Marama Fox: Thank you Mr Speaker and apologies to the House for the administrative error.Mr SPEAKER: Order! Just ask the question.
Carter David: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5570. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that particular course of action. Is there any objection? There is none. It is very unusual. I need to know—I think you also need to describe whom you are asking the question to.MARAMA FOX: I would like to ask the question to the Minister for Social Development. [Interruption]
Fox Marama: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFox Marama: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5570. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MARAMA FOX (Co-Leader—Māori Party): Kia ora Mr Speaker. I seek leave to ask a question on behalf of the Māori Party.
Carter David: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5570. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] No I just need to deal with this first. That is certainly within the Standing Orders. Leave is sought by Chris Hipkins to ask one additional question. Is there any objection? There is.
Carter David: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5570. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! You cannot. The member knows the rules of this House very well. He cannot seek leave on behalf of another member.CHRIS HIPKINS: In that case I seek leave to ask a question myself seeing as there is not an additional question—
Hipkins Chris: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHipkins Chris: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5570. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS HIPKINS (Senior Whip—Labour): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The Standing Orders allow for 12 oral questions each day. I understand that the Māori Party was unable to lodge a question by the deadline this morning. I therefore seek leave for it to be able to ask its oral question—
Kuriger Barbara: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeKuriger Barbara: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5567. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]9.BARBARA KURIGER (National—Taranaki - King Country) to the Minister of Health: Can he confirm that the number of patients benefiting from elective surgery has increased by 5030 in the last financial year and that 49234 more patients are having surgery now compared to 2007/2008?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Health): Yes I can. When National was elected in 2008 increasing the number of elective surgeries every year was a top Government priority. These new figures show that a record 167188 New Zealanders received elective surgery in 2014-15 a remarkable increase of 42 percent on 2007-08.Barbara Kuriger: What is the spread of these increased numbers across the types of elective surgery and what is his expectation for the future?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: This continued growth in elective surgeries—over 5000 in the last year—has been spread across the specialities. It includes more than 690 orthopaedic operations 1300 general surgeries and 150 more cardiothoracic surgeries. It is my expectation that the district health boards will continue to deliver increases averaging 4000 more surgeries a year over the next 3 years which is why the Government invested an extra $92 million into elective surgery in the last Budget. This Government is committed to protecting and growing public health services and the extra 50000 surgeries over the last 7 years is evidence of that commitment.Hon Annette King: What impact will the prediction of deficits by 11 of the 20 district health boards have on their ability to provide services in a timely manner?Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: The member does not need to worry about that because we have reduced those deficits from $150 million under the last Government to around $50 million and dropping over the longer term under this Government. In actual fact there is nothing to worry about. It will not be like when Mrs King was Minister and the budget doubled but there were 2000—Mr SPEAKER: Order!Hon Annette King: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. My question was a straight question. It had no political inference in it. I asked what the impact of deficits was—Mr SPEAKER: Order! And the Minister was—[Interruption] Order! The question was answered in order. It was describing what impacts—which in the Minister’s mind were relatively minimal.
McKelvie Ian: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMcKelvie Ian: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5565. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]6.IAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei) to the Minister for Primary Industries: What reports has he received on the outlook for primary sector exports?Hon NATHAN GUY (Minister for Primary Industries): The Situation and Outlook for Primary Industries for 2015 highlights that the medium to long term outlook for our primary sectors is indeed positive. Although the outlook forecasts that some sectors like dairying will experience short-term volatility overall primary sector exports should increase by 17 percent to $41 billion by 2019. Importantly the outlook highlights the long-term trend of global income and population growth particularly on our Asian doorstep. This will provide an opportunity for New Zealand to continue growing its customer base with sustainable economic growth—indeed boosting the regions.Ian McKelvie: What does the Situation and Outlook for Primary Industries2015 highlight about the short-term volatility in the dairy sector?Hon NATHAN GUY: The outlook highlights that large price peaks are often followed by price falls and then recoveries. At the moment the world is pretty much awash with milk. China has taken longer than expected to come back into the market. The removal of the European milk quotas is expected to increase the world supply of milk. The Russian sanctions are also having an impact on some of our traditional markets. However as this report highlights the medium to long term outlook for the dairy sector is very positive. Just one example: a 1 percent increase in income is estimated to increase the demand for dairy products by 0.8 percent. As the incomes of developing countries increase so will the demand for New Zealand dairy products.Ian McKelvie: What is the outlook for our other primary sectors?Hon NATHAN GUY: That is a very good question. Strong growth in the meat horticulture and seafood sectors has helped to partially offset any decrease in the dairy sector and these sectors have very strong outlooks. In the meat sector beef export revenue is up by 30 percent and we are likely to fill our US quota for the first time ever. Total meat and wool exports are expected to increase by almost 11 percent to $9 billion by 2019. Strong growth in kiwifruit and wine exports is driving horticulture export revenue past $4 billion and it is forecast to reach $4.6 billion by 2019. Seafood export earnings are forecast to reach $1.8 billion by 2019 driven primarily by aquaculture planned expansion growth.
Mark Ron: Oral Questions — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMark Ron: Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5557. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]1.RON MARK (Deputy Leader—NZ First) to the Minister for Primary Industries: Does he stand by all his statements?Hon NATHAN GUY (Minister for Primary Industries): Yes. In particular I stand by my statement that although dairy prices are experiencing some short-term volatility the medium to long term outlook for the sector is still very positive indeed.Ron Mark: In respect of his statements around the Saudi farm issue can he explain why his predecessor and the then Minister for Primary Industries the Rt Hon David Carter met with Mr George Assaf of Awassi New Zealand Ltd on 21 January 2009?Hon NATHAN GUY: I am unfamiliar with what details and discussions were had between those various parties at that time.Ron Mark: So is the Minister telling the House that he has no idea whatsoever as to what was so important that Minister Carter had to meet with Mr George Assaf during the parliamentary adjournment just following the formation of Mr Key’s Government; if not why not?Hon NATHAN GUY: The member should realise that Ministers meet a variety of people and they discuss things that are appropriate in their different ministries and portfolios.Ron Mark: Why have the venue duration and substance of this meeting not previously been disclosed?Hon Gerry Brownlee: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: Point of order the Hon Gerry Brownlee. [Interruption] Order! [Interruption] No I have not called the member yet. I just want silence for this point of order.Hon Gerry Brownlee: The primary question is: “Does he stand by all his statements?”. We are now getting into some sort of forensic consideration of a meeting that took place during the long 7-week parliamentary adjournment. There is nothing unusual in that.Mr SPEAKER: And it will be for the Minister in answering the question to decide how he answers it. [Interruption]Hon NATHAN GUY: Can I hear that again?Mr SPEAKER: I am going to ask that the question be heard again.Ron Mark: Why have the venue duration and substance of this meeting not been disclosed?Hon NATHAN GUY: This is a ridiculous question. I cannot believe that this member is even asserting that. As I mentioned in the answer that I just gave previously Ministers meet a variety of people. When something is appropriate in their own portfolio they should indeed meet. I do not have the specifics of what went on at that meeting with a former Minister and neither should I carry that around. If the member wants to put a detailed question on the sheet then I am happy to answer it.Ron Mark: Is not the real reason taxpayers’ money is being wasted on the so-called Saudi agri-hub which he has been supporting that this Government is being blackmailed over what David Carter and the National Party and Michelle Boag promised in Opposition?Hon NATHAN GUY: No. That is a pathetic question and I refute that question.
Carter David: Points of Order — Leave for Introduction and First Reading—Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Extended licensing hours during Rugby World Cup) BillText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Points of Order — Leave for Introduction and First Reading—Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Extended licensing hours during Rugby World Cup) Bill[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5557. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: No the member is seeking leave. The member Ron Mark knows what to do. Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is. [Interruption] Order! There is objection.
Mark Ron: Points of Order — Leave for Introduction and First Reading—Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Extended licensing hours during Rugby World Cup) BillText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMark Ron: Points of Order — Leave for Introduction and First Reading—Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Extended licensing hours during Rugby World Cup) Bill[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5557. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]RON MARK (Deputy Leader—NZ First):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Could we ask that the member consider putting this proposal forward tomorrow?
Seymour David: Points of Order — Leave for Introduction and First Reading—Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Extended licensing hours during Rugby World Cup) BillText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSeymour David: Points of Order — Leave for Introduction and First Reading—Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Extended licensing hours during Rugby World Cup) Bill[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5557. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave to introduce a member’s bill in my name on extending the licensing hours for the sale and supply of alcohol for the duration of Rugby World Cup 2015 to be set down for first reading tomorrow as members’ order of the day No. 1. To allow the legislation to commence prior to the start of the Rugby World Cup I also seek leave for the bill following its first reading to be referred to the Justice and Electoral Committee for 2 weeks and for the bill once it is reported back to be given its second and third readings forthwith on the following members’ day 26 August 2015.Ron Mark: Point of order—Mr SPEAKER: Is it to do with this?Ron Mark: Yes.Mr SPEAKER: Then I will hear the point of order from Ron Mark.
Brownlee Gerry: Business of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Business of the House[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5557. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): Pursuant to Standing Order 56(1)(a) I move That the business for the extended sitting of the House to be held from 9 a.m. on Wednesday 12 August 2015 as agreed by the Business Committee also include the Committee stage and third reading of the Hawke’s Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill.Motion agreed to.
Urgent Debates Declined — Trade Agreements—Saudi Agri-huband Release of InformationText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUrgent Debates Declined — Trade Agreements—Saudi Agri-huband Release of Information[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5571. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Urgent Debates DeclinedTrade Agreements—Saudi Agri-huband Release of InformationMr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from the Hon David Parker seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 the release of documents pertaining to the Government’s dealings with a Saudi businessman. This is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. There must be an element of urgency for a matter to take precedence over other business. The proper use of taxpayer funds is an important issue. The question is whether the release of documents is an issue so urgent that the ordinary business of the House should be set aside to address it. I am not persuaded that the business of the House should be set aside today. However I note that the Auditor-General has been asked to investigate the matter. Should she do so then the findings of that investigation may warrant a debate in the House at that time. The application is therefore declined.
Points of Order — Leave for Introduction and First Reading—Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Extended licensing hours during Rugby World Cup) BillText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePoints of Order — Leave for Introduction and First Reading—Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Extended licensing hours during Rugby World Cup) Bill[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5557. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Points of OrderLeave for Introduction and First Reading—Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Extended licensing hours during Rugby World Cup) BillDAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave to introduce a member’s bill in my name on extending the licensing hours for the sale and supply of alcohol for the duration of Rugby World Cup 2015 to be set down for first reading tomorrow as members’ order of the day No. 1. To allow the legislation to commence prior to the start of the Rugby World Cup I also seek leave for the bill following its first reading to be referred to the Justice and Electoral Committee for 2 weeks and for the bill once it is reported back to be given its second and third readings forthwith on the following members’ day 26 August 2015.Ron Mark: Point of order—Mr SPEAKER: Is it to do with this?Ron Mark: Yes.Mr SPEAKER: Then I will hear the point of order from Ron Mark.RON MARK (Deputy Leader—NZ First):I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Could we ask that the member consider putting this proposal forward tomorrow?Mr SPEAKER: No the member is seeking leave. The member Ron Mark knows what to do. Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is. [Interruption] Order! There is objection.
Business of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBusiness of the House[Sitting date: 11 August 2015. Volume:707;Page:5557. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Tuesday 11 August 2015Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.Business of the HouseHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): Pursuant to Standing Order 56(1)(a) I move That the business for the extended sitting of the House to be held from 9 a.m. on Wednesday 12 August 2015 as agreed by the Business Committee also include the Committee stage and third reading of the Hawke’s Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill.Motion agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4547. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That Part 1 be agreed to.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Part 1 agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4547. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 60New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2.Noes 61New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendments not agreed to.
Vote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4547. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 60New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2.Noes 61New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 87 in the name of Eugenie Sage to clause 4 and new clause 4A be agreed to.
Vote: Appropriation (2014/15 Supplementary Estimates) Bill Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — Second ReadingsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Appropriation (2014/15 Supplementary Estimates) Bill Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — Second Readings[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4529. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the Appropriation (2014/15 Supplementary Estimates) Bill and the Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill be now read a second time.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Bills read a second time.
Vote: Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4502. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the Imprest Supply (First for 2015/16) Bill be now read a first time.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Bill read a first time.
Borrows Chester: Points of Order — Debate—Relevance of SpeechesText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: Points of Order — Debate—Relevance of Speeches[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4555. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: I can assure the member that the presiding officers will do all they can to ensure the smooth running of the House.
Ross Jami-Lee: Points of Order — Debate—Relevance of SpeechesText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: Points of Order — Debate—Relevance of Speeches[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4554. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I take this opportunity at the end of the evening to just raise a matter that I hope the presiding officers team could give some consideration to. Members throughout the Committee stage have witnessed a number of rulings around the relevancy question that have been made by presiding officers. I completely accept that it is up to presiding officers to determine the relevance of speeches being made by members but some members particularly on this side would feel as though perhaps the relevancy rules in the Standing Orders and Speaker’s rulings may be being applied somewhat differently to what those members are used to. Many members have been challenged on their relevancy today—senior members including the Hon Ruth Dyson. I just wonder whether the presiding officers could give some consideration to that matter and perhaps discuss it with the whips and see whether we can attempt to comply with the expectations of the presiding officers a bit better in the future.
Mallard Trevor: Environmental Reporting Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Environmental Reporting Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 17 June 2015. Volume:706;Page:4554. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Trevor Mallard): Order! I apologise for interrupting the member. The time has come for me to report progress.House resumed.The Chairperson reported the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf Environmental Shelf (Environmental Effects) (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill without amendment progress on the Environmental Reporting Bill and no progress on the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Amendment Bill.Report adopted.