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Pettis Jill: Animal Welfare (Restriction on Docking of Dogs' Tails) Bill — Procedure First Reading 
Pettis Jill: Animal Welfare (Restriction on Docking of Dogs' Tails) Bill — Procedure First Reading 
[Volume:621;Page:16368] 
JILL PETTIS (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I am very happy to assist the House. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Please make it nice and clear so we can all understand. 
JILL PETTIS 
: I will put the leave again. I seek leave for a party to cast votes on the Animal Welfare (Restriction of Docking of Dogs’ Tails) Bill for the Ayes and the Noes and to record abstentions and for these votes to be recorded notwithstanding Standing Order 144(1)(b). 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Can I just say that apparently that does not add anything because they would be recorded anyway.
Vote: Intellectual Disability (Compulsory Care and rehabilitation) Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Intellectual Disability (Compulsory Care and rehabilitation) Bill — In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:612;Page:9588] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 35 
New Zealand National 27; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Noes 82 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: Overseas Investment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Overseas Investment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:21580] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 86 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 20; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 20 
New Zealand First 13; Green Party 7. 
Amendments agreed to.
Hide Rodney: Motions — Presidential Election USA—Congratulations 
Hide Rodney: Motions — Presidential Election USA—Congratulations 
[Volume:621;Page:16594] 
RODNEY HIDE (Leader—ACT) 
: 
 I move  
That the House convey its sincere congratulations and warmest regards to President George Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney on their election win in the United States of America. 
 I hope that they will continue to regard New Zealand in a favourable way as a good ally and a good trading partner— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: There is to be no debate. Leave was sought to move a motion without debate. The member has moved the motion. I now want to put the motion and other parties can very briefly comment. [ 
Interruption 
] Well if the member wishes to make a brief comment I will allow him to make it now. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: Also I send on behalf of this House regards to John Kerry and his running mate John Edwards. It was a very tough campaign and I thought that the way those candidates handled the results was a credit to a great country and a great people.
Voting — Correction 
Voting — Correction 
[Volume:627;Page:22353] 
Voting 
Correction 
DARREN HUGHES (Junior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I seek leave to amend the voting tallies from the evening sitting of the House last Wednesday 27 July to delete references to the two Progressive votes in the party votes on the Smoke-free Environments (Exemptions) Amendment Bill the Crimes (Abolition of Force as a Justification for Child Discipline) Amendment Bill and the New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone Disarmament and Arms Control (Nuclear Propulsion Reform) Amendment Bill. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: The member is asking for leave to alter the votes. Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There appears to be none. The voting will be amended accordingly.
Vote: Health Practitioners Competence Assurance Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Health Practitioners Competence Assurance Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8077] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 69 
Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Noes 48 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Dr Paul Hutchison to clause 3(1) be agreed to: 
to omit from subclause (1) the word “protect” and substitute the words “to assist in protecting”.
Franks Stephen: Prostitution Reform Bill — In Committee 
Franks Stephen: Prostitution Reform Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:609;Page:6178] 
STEPHEN FRANKS (ACT NZ) 
: 
 I do so seek leave if I may. Perhaps I can seek the leave after Mr Barnett’s seeking of leave has been considered because I would like it to be worded in a way that did not open it up to a completely open-ended debate. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Leave has been sought by the honourable member Tim Barnett. Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There appears to be none.
Brownlee Gerry: Civil Union Bill — Procedure Third Reading 
Brownlee Gerry: Civil Union Bill — Procedure Third Reading 
[Volume:622;Page:17639] 
GERRY BROWNLEE (Deputy Leader—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I spoke to the second reading and I can tell you that the rule was not applied throughout the course of my speech.
Goff Phil: Criminal Justice Amendment Bill (No 7) — In Committee 
Goff Phil: Criminal Justice Amendment Bill (No 7) — In Committee 
[Volume:612;Page:9537] 
Hon PHIL GOFF (Minister of Justice) 
: 
 I will do the member the honour of taking him seriously. The definition of “mental disorder” was well known by his colleagues because this is the same definition that he and his colleagues put into the Mental Health (Compulsory Assessment and Treatment) Act 11 years ago. Also that is the definition put into the original bill that this Supplementary Order Paper is based on. That is well known to his colleagues. They have been aware of this definition for over a decade. This can be no surprise to the member or any of his hopefully better informed colleagues.
Vote: Health Practitioners Competence Assurance Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Health Practitioners Competence Assurance Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8064] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 1 be agreed to. 
Ayes 69 
Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Noes 48 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Clause 1 agreed to.
Vote: Minimum Wage Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Minimum Wage Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:608;Page:5162] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 4 be agreed to. 
Ayes 74 
Noes 40 
Clause 4 agreed to. 
Labour 52; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9. 
New Zealand National 26; ACT New Zealand 6; United Future 8. 
Bill reported with amendment.
Brown Peter: Points of Order — Urgent Debates—Local Government Elections 
Brown Peter: Points of Order — Urgent Debates—Local Government Elections 
[Volume:621;Page:16233] 
PETER BROWN (Senior Whip—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. My colleague Jim Peters put in a letter twice last week on this very issue. I am seeking your guidance. If he puts in a letter tomorrow is there any chance of a debate—noting the Minister’s answers in question time? 
Mr SPEAKER 
: No.
Vote: Prisoners' and Victims' Claims Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Vote: Prisoners' and Victims' Claims Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:626;Page:20949] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 53 
New Zealand National 26; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 6; United Future 8. 
Noes 62 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 372 in the name of Marc Alexander to clause 3 be agreed to.
Hartley Ann: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Discharge In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Hartley Ann: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Discharge In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8816] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: We have had a point of order from Mr Brown regarding the use of the words “health Nazis”. Mr Brown did not raise the point at the time but I have taken speakers on the point of order and have ruled that the words were in context at the time and that it was not necessary for me to rule them out.
Vote: Building Bill — In Committee Procedure 
Vote: Building Bill — In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:619;Page:14830] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 9 
Green Party 9. 
Noes 110 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Progressive 2; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 241 in the name of the Hon John Tamihere to Part 1A be agreed to. 
Lindsay Tisch 
: I seek leave for the question on the amendment to clause 159 as set out on the Minister’s Supplementary Order Paper to be put separately rather than all being put as one. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: That of course is something that the Minister can decide but the member is seeking leave. Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is objection.
Power Simon: Masterton District Council (Montfort Trimble Foundation) Bill — Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Power Simon: Masterton District Council (Montfort Trimble Foundation) Bill — Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:614;Page:10427] 
SIMON POWER (National—Rangitikei) 
: 
 I thank the member for cooperating in the chair during the Committee stage in answering I think three different questions during that short period. It is a shame frankly that other members when they are in charge of bills are not prepared to answer questions in such a forthright and open way. Members on this side of the House commented to each other during the Committee stage that it would be nice if the member were given a ministerial warrant because then we would have a member in the chair who would answer questions from time to time. That would be very helpful. 
The National Party has been happy to oblige the member in seeing this bill progress through the House at a reasonably rapid rate this evening. I thank the member for explaining to the Committee the detail of the amendment proposed and placed on the Table at the last minute. Members on this side of the Chamber did not object to that amendment to clause 8(2). As the member in charge of the bill said it was simply a drafting issue. I am pleased that members of the National Party have been able to support what essentially is an administrative technical bill in the sense that it now enables the trustees to distribute collect and operate outside the area that once was the Masterton County Council and which now incorporates a wider area as the Masterton District Council. 
I conclude by saying that it is a pity we are not able to progress sensible legislation in this way more often with members sitting in the Committee chair who are as cooperative as this particular member was in engaging in a legitimate way with members who had questions about the content of this bill during that process. The National Party will delay this matter no longer.
Motions — Reserve Bank Funding Agreement—Ratification 
Motions — Reserve Bank Funding Agreement—Ratification 
[Volume:627;Page:21935] 
Motions 
Reserve Bank Funding Agreement—Ratification 
Debate resumed from 21 June. 
CRAIG McNAIR (NZ First) 
: 
 On behalf of New Zealand First I want to speak briefly to this funding agreement entered into by the Minister of Finance and the Governor of the Reserve Bank pursuant to section 159 of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand Act 1989. I note that this is not the only agreement between the Minister of Finance and the Governor of the Reserve Bank. I note that the policy targets agreement is also a major agreement between the two parties. New Zealand First will address the policy targets agreement when the opportunity arises. 
The funding agreement the subject of today’s debate is something of concern to New Zealand First although we will support this motion. 
Clayton Cosgrove 
: Are you sure about that? 
CRAIG McNAIR 
: We do absolutely. We see the importance of supporting our Reserve Bank. But I want to express our concern at the amount of money being appropriated—$34 million commencing in July 2006 and then $43 million in 2009. The amount of money being appropriated to the Reserve Bank also represents the increasing amount of money that is going into our bureaucracy. New Zealand First is the only party that is willing to put its money where its mouth is on this issue. We are the only party that has a policy to reduce the number of MPs to 99. The people of New Zealand resoundingly want a reduction in the number of MPs and we are the only party that is supportive of that wish. National is screaming and saying that too much money is going into agreements like this one. But New Zealand First is the only party that is willing to say no to having 120 MPs. It represents the fact that when we have a concern about the amount of funding going into agreements such as this one we really mean it when we say we will address those issues. 
In closing New Zealand First supports the Reserve Bank of New Zealand Act funding agreement because we see the need to have a thriving strong transparent Reserve Bank. But like I said there are issues that New Zealand First will address when given that opportunity. We support this motion. 
Motion agreed to.
Vote: Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Bill — In Committee Procedure Third Reading 
Vote: Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Bill — In Committee Procedure Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:20981] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 55 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; United Future 8. 
Noes 62 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Marc Alexander to clause 16 be agreed to: 
to add to subclause (5) the following paragraph: 
(b)And includes a repayment for the costs incurred to the state of all legal fees costs of incarceration and any additional expenditures as a result of the criminal conviction.
Yates Dianne: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Yates Dianne: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:624;Page:19222] 
2.  
DIANNE YATES (Labour—Hamilton East) 
 to the  
Minister of Research Science and Technology 
: How is the research science and technology portfolio contributing to the development of New Zealand’s biotechnology industry? 
Hon STEVE MAHAREY (Minister of Research Science and Technology) 
: 
 On Monday a $100 million life sciences fund the largest ever promoted in New Zealand was announced—the BioPacificVentures fund. The Government will be contributing between $15 million and $20 million towards the fund through the Venture Investment Fund and AgResearch. It will focus on agricultural biotech and food sectors in New Zealand and Australia with a secondary emphasis on health. The establishment of this fund is a vote of confidence in New Zealand’s burgeoning biotech industry and is evidence that there are major opportunities for growth in the biotechnology sector. The main New Zealand investment partner is Wrightson and the main international partner is Nestlé. 
Dianne Yates 
: What else is the Government doing to support the biotechnology sector? 
Hon STEVE MAHAREY 
: Let me cite five key points. Around $175 million of our research investment in 2003-04 was put into research in biotechnology and that is the highest proportion invested of any OECD country. More than half the projects funded through our Pre-seed Accelerator Fund so far have been biotech projects. The Research Consortia Fund has funded $10.4 million to biotech-based consortia over the past 2 years and the Venture Investment Fund has supported investment in Proacta Therapeutics. The Australia - New Zealand Biopartnering Fund is funding nearly $6.8 million for commercialisation of four biotech projects. 
Rod Donald 
: How is it consistent with AgResearch’s statement of intent for it to use its scarce resources to become an investor in a venture capital enterprise? 
Hon STEVE MAHAREY 
: The quantum of money coming from AgResearch is around $5 million of the current $100 million. It seems to me that that level of investment is cautious as it should be. It is appropriate for it to put funding into biotechnology.
Hunt Jonathan: Corrections Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Hunt Jonathan: Corrections Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:617;Page:13159] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: That was the point that was made and it is something that happened in the Committee stage. I am in the House now. I will certainly take note and I will have a look at that and come back to the member if necessary.
Cullen Michael: Courts and Criminal Matters Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Cullen Michael: Courts and Criminal Matters Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:626;Page:21707] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Bradford Sue: Crimes (Abolition of Force as a Justification for Child Discipline) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Bradford Sue: Crimes (Abolition of Force as a Justification for Child Discipline) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:627;Page:22101] 
SUE BRADFORD (Green) 
: 
 I move  
That the Crimes (Abolition of Force as a Justification for Child Discipline) Amendment Bill be referred to the Justice and Electoral Committee 
. 
referred to Justice and Electoral Committee 
Motion agreed to.
Cullen Michael: Business of Select Committees — Reporting Dates 
Cullen Michael: Business of Select Committees — Reporting Dates 
[Volume:621;Page:17184] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 This is a totally different matter which has to be resolved before the House rises. I seek leave for the time by which the Social Services Committee must finally report the Disabled Persons Employment Promotion (Repeal and Related Matters) Bill to be extended to 31 March 2005. The bill is due to be reported back next week and the select committee members this morning I understand unanimously resolved that they would like more time to consider the bill. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought. Is there any objection? There is not.
Hartley Ann: Civil Aviation Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Hartley Ann: Civil Aviation Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:615;Page:11358] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: We will take Part 2 and Schedules 2 3 and 4 together.
Brown Peter: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Recommittal In Committee Third Reading Procedure 
Brown Peter: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Recommittal In Committee Third Reading Procedure 
[Volume:621;Page:16854] 
PETER BROWN (Senior Whip—NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Would I be correct in assuming—I could not tell exactly from the voices—that both Labour and National objected to the leave I sought?
Vote: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Discharge In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Discharge In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8809] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 47 
New Zealand National 19; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; United Future 8. 
Noes 65 
Labour 52; New Zealand National 4; Green Party 9. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 117 in the name of the Hon Peter Dunne to insert the definition of  
minimum air quality standard  
in clause 2(1) be agreed to.
Benson-Pope David: Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — In Committee 
Benson-Pope David: Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8728] 
DAVID BENSON-POPE (Senior Whip—NZ Labour) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
English Bill: Motions — Sir Edmund Hillary—50th Anniversary of Ascent of Mount Everest 
English Bill: Motions — Sir Edmund Hillary—50th Anniversary of Ascent of Mount Everest 
[Volume:608;Page:5815] 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Leader of the Opposition) 
: 
 The National Party warmly supports the motion moved by the Prime Minister. We appreciate that even in their advanced years Sir Edmund and Lady Hillary have been so willing to share again with New Zealand that magic moment of 50 years ago. They have every best wish of this party and this Parliament through this celebration.
Smith Nick: Care of Children Bill — Instruction to Committee Procedure In Committee 
Smith Nick: Care of Children Bill — Instruction to Committee Procedure In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:16641] 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: Is this a new point of order? 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH 
: Yes it is. I recall—and I can deliver the quotes to the Committee—over 10 occasions on which I was told during the contempt of court proceedings and in comment from Government Ministers that the proper place to debate children’s law is in Parliament. I come to Parliament to do so and all Labour members do is move closure motions. I simply seek the leave of the Committee to be able to make a 5-minute contribution as other members have chosen to do to address Part 1 of the Care of Children Bill. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: Leave is sought by Dr Smith for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is.
Pettis Jill: Appropriation (2005/06 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
Pettis Jill: Appropriation (2005/06 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
[Volume:627;Page:22239] 
JILL PETTIS (Labour—Whanganui) 
: 
 I apologise. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Thank you.
Vote: New Zealand Guardian Trust Company Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Vote: New Zealand Guardian Trust Company Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:621;Page:16344] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the New Zealand Guardian Trust Company Amendment Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 111 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2; Maori Party 1. 
Noes 8 
ACT New Zealand 8.
Obituaries — Hon Philip North Holloway CMG 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Obituaries — Hon Philip North Holloway CMG 
[Sitting date: 10 June 2003. Volume:609;Page:6037. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Obituaries 
Hon Philip North Holloway CMG 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I regret to inform the House of the death on 28 May 2003 of the Hon Philip North Holloway CMG who represented the electorate of Heretaunga from 1954 to 1960. He was Minister of Industries and Commerce from 1957 to 1960. I desire on behalf of this House to express our sense of the loss we have sustained and our sympathies with the relatives of the late former member. I now ask members to stand with me and observe a minute of silence as a mark of respect for his memory. 
Honourable members stood as a mark of respect.
Pettis Jill: Appropriation (2005/06 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
Pettis Jill: Appropriation (2005/06 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
[Volume:627;Page:22239] 
JILL PETTIS (Labour—Whanganui) 
: 
 I said “porangi” which means mad. But if the member is tired and emotional and has taken offence I apologise.
Choudhary Ashraf: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Choudhary Ashraf: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:613;Page:9713] 
9.  
Dr ASHRAF CHOUDHARY (Labour) 
 to the  
Minister of Education 
: What steps is he taking to support teachers to develop their expertise in using information and communications technology to help students learn? 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Minister of Education) 
: 
 Ten teachers have been selected from over 50 applications to receive the first-ever e-learning fellowships. These fellowships give teachers the time and support networks to research how best to meet their students’ needs in new and exciting ways. Over $4 million has been earmarked for 40 of these year-long fellowships over the next 4 years. 
Dr Ashraf Choudhary 
: Why is the development of teacher information and communications technology skills important? 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: I think it is vital that young New Zealanders have the skills that equip them for work in the 21st century. The one thing I do regret is that it appears that one of our main resources Mr Maurice Williamson is about to be given some real work to do in here and we will not be able to use him as a leader in those programmes. 
Jim Peters 
: When did the Minister realise that much greater expertise was needed as will be developed by the 10 educators next year; and what funding allowances are available now for projects such as FarNet for seconded qualified and innovative teachers to have collective learning programmes developed for the project and other projects next year? 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: I do not have the specific amount of money that has been put into FarNet over a number of years but it is enormous. Also we are now up to an intake of 37 new clusters coming in at the beginning of next year—roughly 400 schools getting additional professional development and other support. This Government is putting its money where its mouth is in this area and I must say that the Northland principals have been very very supportive of the extra resourcing they have received.
Ewen-Street Ian: Hop Industry Restructuring Bill — Third Reading 
Ewen-Street Ian: Hop Industry Restructuring Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:607;Page:4849] 
IAN EWEN-STREET (Green) 
: 
 I rise to speak again very briefly in the third reading. I want to pass on the best wishes of the Green Party to the members of the hop industry. I also want to reiterate my recommendation to them that they limit the size of any individual or group shareholding of the shares subsequent to the passage of this legislation. My recommendation would be that for any individual or for any one holding the maximum holding should be about 9.9 percent. That would mean that a minimum of six people then have to get together to have a controlling interest in the industry—bearing in mind of course that there are only about 25 or 26 people who are contributors to the industry in the first place. Obviously with that small number of operators the average holding at the moment would be around 4 percent. It is a strategy that members of the industry could use to maintain the cooperative structure and to allow the industry to continue to be a cooperative into the future. If it is allowed to get into too few hands it will get corporatised. It will get monopolised and the small player is always the one who will lose out. The Green Party wishes the hop industry very well. I am very pleased to see the passage of this bill into law.
Vote: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
Vote: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:613;Page:9977] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 53 
New Zealand National 24; New Zealand First 12; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 67 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand National 3; New Zealand First 1; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 117 in the name of the Hon Peter Dunne to new section 13A(1) in clause 6B be agreed to.
Peters Winston: Motions — Auckland Mosques—Attack 
Peters Winston: Motions — Auckland Mosques—Attack 
[Volume:627;Page:22029] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 The Business Committee agreeing to the moving of the motion is not the same as the House agreeing. The point New Zealand First wishes to make as a point of order is that if we are to condemn attacks on mosques what about burial places churches synagogues and other places around this country that have been similarly attacked if we are to have some balance and fairness? My point again is that it is one thing for the Business Committee to agree but other members of this House may have a different view and a more neutral and fair one.
Hawkins George: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Hawkins George: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:608;Page:5398] 
Hon GEORGE HAWKINS (Minister of Veterans' Affairs) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Vote: Public Finance (State Sector Management) Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Public Finance (State Sector Management) Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:622;Page:17920] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 9; United Future 8. 
Amendment agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Dr Michael Cullen to clause 188 and the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 315 in his name to Part 6 be agreed to: 
to omit from subclause (2)(b)(i) the words”given by the Governor-General by Order in Council”.
Mahuta Nanaia: Civil Union Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Mahuta Nanaia: Civil Union Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:622;Page:17481] 
NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour—Tainui) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Hughes Darren: Land Transport Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Hughes Darren: Land Transport Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:21348] 
DARREN HUGHES (Labour—Otaki) 
: 
 I am pleased to take a call in support of the second reading of the Land Transport Amendment Bill. When I read through the report I thought the members of the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee had done a great job on a whole range of different areas that a number of members will have had raised with them in their constituency clinics. 
A number of people have come to see me about chartered clubs like the “cossie club” the RSA and the workingmen’s club which run a courtesy vehicle normally on Friday and Saturday nights to take members home. There has been some issue—[ 
Interruption 
] Never this member! There has been some issue around whether there could be a fee for that service and whether a courtesy coach should be included as a passenger transport service. Of course if that were the case that would mean that the drivers were required to comply with a whole lot of extra regulation. I am very pleased that the select committee has provided for the exclusion of those courtesy vehicles from the passenger transport service definition provided that the service is not done on a hire or reward basis. If members of the club just make a donation for the use of the van it will be excluded from the official definition. I think that will make things a lot easier for those chartered clubs which do a lot of work in our communities and provide a very good service for their members. 
In addition to all the other very good features of the bill I particularly wanted to highlight that one because I have had representations from clubs in the Otaki electorate. I am very happy to be able to support that provision of the bill.
Hunt Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Hunt Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:616;Page:11644] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: That is a debatable matter and there is a general debate tomorrow.
Burton Mark: Volunteers Employment Protection Amendment Bill — Instruction to Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade Committee 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Burton Mark: Volunteers Employment Protection Amendment Bill — Instruction to Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade Committee 
[Sitting date: 19 June 2003. Volume:609;Page:6413. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon MARK BURTON (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 Further to the discussions with various party whips and the Business Committee I seek leave for Standing Order 256 to be suspended to permit the Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade Committee in its consideration of the Volunteers Employment Protection Amendment Bill to have authority to consider and if it thinks fit adopt the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 66. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course being followed? There appears to be none.
Peters Jim: Local Government Law Reform Bill (No 3) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Peters Jim: Local Government Law Reform Bill (No 3) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:618;Page:14122] 
JIM PETERS (NZ First) 
: 
 I comment very quickly that New Zealand First like other parties supports this change to the local government legislation. It was needed particularly for smaller areas. The ability to knock good candidates out because they chose to stand for one office or another would have been a difficulty. On behalf of New Zealand First I commend the Local Government and Environment Committee for that. Let the democratic choice be made. 
We are concerned though that the comments and submissions made with regard to ward requirements for small or rural communities appear to have been disregarded. It may be that those comments were made to the committee against the bruising impact that some people have felt as a result of the recent determinations by the Local Government Commission. Some rural communities felt bruised that the commissioners set varying standards with regard to the decisions and that smaller communities were forcibly pushed into larger amalgamations against their best wishes and strongly against their long-term heritage and history of dealing with their own problems. I hope that the review mentioned in the preamble will take place earlier rather than later because there is a real need to define what communities’ interests are and a real need to define delegations. 
All of these issues were part I believe of the focus of the submissions that came to us whereby people were increasingly feeling that larger councils effectively disenfranchised them day to day. To that degree New Zealand First supports the amendments and I know that some candidates will have a longer life in local government than they would have had if they had to choose one or other of the offices.
Hide Rodney: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee 
Hide Rodney: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee 
[Volume:619;Page:15205] 
RODNEY HIDE (Leader—ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. That is the exact point I was making—that we have two standards operating in this Chamber with you in the Chair. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: No I do not accept that Mr Hide. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: Are you going to listen to my point of order? 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I will not accept that there are two standards of rulings in this Committee. You are challenging— 
RODNEY HIDE 
: Are you going to listen to my point of order? 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: The member is challenging the Chair. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: Are you going to listen to my point of order? 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I will listen to the point of order but it had better be in keeping with Standing Orders. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: A strict rule in the Committee is that there is no calling out during a vote. You pointed that out to the chief Government whip who was calling out in a voice that could only be described as “megaphonic” right across the House. You told her to keep quiet. She completely ignored you and carried on. You asked her again to be quiet and she called out again. If that member were any Opposition MP I would expect him or her to be thrown out. I expect the Government whip to be setting the standard but in taking a vote Mr Chairperson for you to offer no sanction when the Government whip called out three times—you told her twice in a few seconds not to do so and you were completely ignored—leaves this side of the House with only one conclusion.
Vote: Consumer Protection (Definitions of Goods and Services) Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Consumer Protection (Definitions of Goods and Services) Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:609;Page:6895] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 35 
New Zealand National 27; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Noes 81 
Labour 52; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 8; United Future 8. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Tony Ryall to clause 6(1) be agreed to: 
to omit paragraph (b)(vi) of section 2(1) from the definition of  
services 
.
Collins Judith: Crimes (Abolition of Force as a Justification for Child Discipline) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Collins Judith: Crimes (Abolition of Force as a Justification for Child Discipline) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:627;Page:22088] 
JUDITH COLLINS (National—Clevedon) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. Are we going to have clapping calling or anything else coming from the public gallery? 
Hon Chris Carter 
: How outrageous! 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The Minister will stand withdraw and apologise. The member was taking a point of order and I was going to rule on it. The member knows that there should be silence during points of order. This is a final warning. 
Hon Chris Carter 
: I do apologise although I do think the member was being very ungracious. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The member will now stand withdraw and apologise with no other comment. He knows better than that. 
Hon Chris Carter 
: I apologise. 
JUDITH COLLINS 
: I think the people in the public gallery probably are not aware of the rules of the House—so it is just to be fair to them. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Yes. There will certainly be no contribution from the gallery to the procedures of the House.
Vote: Copyright (Parallel Importation of Films and Onus of Proof) Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Copyright (Parallel Importation of Films and Onus of Proof) Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:612;Page:9404] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 48 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Noes 69 
New Zealand Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Taxation (Annual Rates Venture Capital and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Taxation (Annual Rates Venture Capital and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:16579] 
LINDSAY TISCH (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I note that the Government is calling for closure motions. We have just started to debate Part 2. We have had five speakers on Part 2 which has 65 clauses in it. Part 5 has the highest number of clauses with 90. I am seeking from you that we be given a fair go on this legislation which is very important to the well-being of all New Zealanders. The Opposition has a number of members who wish to take calls on this legislation during the Committee stage and I would ask that you take that into account before closure motions are accepted. 
Darren Hughes 
: Mr Chairperson— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: I do not need any assistance. 
Darren Hughes 
: I just want to say that I note that the junior Opposition whip is developing a habit when Government members seek the call of giving his view of the world on it. It is not a point of order. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: I will reply to Mr Tisch. Thank you for bringing that to my attention but we have had far more speakers than you indicated. National has had five speakers. Part 1 was in fact a much bigger part than this one. Albeit it did not have as many clauses it was the most important part of the bill. I am quite aware of what is needed here.
Vote: Ngati Ruanui Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
Vote: Ngati Ruanui Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:608;Page:5278] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Ngati Ruanui Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 109 
ACT New Zealand 7. 
Noes 7 
ACT New Zealand 7. 
Bill read a third time. 
Labour 52; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Waiata
Vote: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Vote: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:15928] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 103 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 22; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; United Future 6; Progressive 2. 
Noes 17 
New Zealand National 5; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 2; Maori Party 1; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Amendment agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 268 in the name of Judy Turner to clause 9(4) be agreed to.
Vote: Maori Fisheries Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Maori Fisheries Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:15437] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 48 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Noes 70 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Recommittal In Committee Third Reading Procedure 
Tisch Lindsay: Human Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill — Recommittal In Committee Third Reading Procedure 
[Volume:621;Page:16854] 
LINDSAY TISCH (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 National is quite comfortable about giving people the names of those who voted for and those who voted against. However seeking leave for that to be recorded is a dangerous precedent. It is not necessary under Standing Order 144. We are quite happy to give the names out—there is no difficulty with that—but we would oppose leave to have the names recorded.
Barker Rick: Electoral Matters Bill — Instruction to Committee 
Barker Rick: Electoral Matters Bill — Instruction to Committee 
[Volume:622;Page:17248] 
Hon RICK BARKER (Associate Minister of Justice) 
: 
 I move  
That it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the Electoral Matters Bill that it have the power to consider and if it thinks fit adopt the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 310 
.
Vote: Education (Export Education Levy) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Vote: Education (Export Education Levy) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:619;Page:15011] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Education (Export Education Levy) Amendment Bill now read a third time. 
Ayes 62 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Maori Party 1. 
Bill read a third time.
Cullen Michael: Business Statement 
Cullen Michael: Business Statement 
[Volume:617;Page:12702] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Next week in the House the Government will be seeking to make progress on the Police Complaints Authority (Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct) Amendment Bill the Criminal Records (Clean Slate) Bill the Corrections Bill the Judicial Matters Bill and the Forests Amendment Bill. I had indicated to the Business Committee that the first reading of the New Zealand Sign Language Bill will be taken on Thursday 13 May as the first item of business. That is not now the case and I will indicate to all other parties as soon as I can what the intended date will now be.
Baldock Larry: Wellington City Council (Te Aro Reclamation) Amendment Bill — In Committee Procedure 
Baldock Larry: Wellington City Council (Te Aro Reclamation) Amendment Bill — In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:618;Page:13870] 
LARRY BALDOCK (United Future) 
: 
 I rise to take a short call on behalf of United Future to indicate our support for the passage of this bill. We believe that local government should be able to make decisions regarding its own affairs. The Local Government Act 2002 gave what was called “powers of general competence” to local councils and this is in keeping with what was requested from us in this bill. The select committee has spent considerable time making sure that the interests of Wellington ratepayers and residents would be well taken into consideration throughout the process and the amendments that have been mentioned which mean that they will be subject to the conditions of the Local Government Act 2002 were entirely sensible. 
The only regret I have is that this bill was passed to us on 14 May 2003 and it has taken a considerable amount of time to process what is a very small bill through the select committee. In part that is due to fact that our committee has had to devote an enormous amount of time to the “corngate” inquiry and I look forward to the inquiry being concluded in a speedy manner so that we can get on to legislation such as this which is often sent to us as a committee and which local authorities around the country are waiting upon. At least in this instance the Wellington City Council will very soon have the legislation it needs in order to get on with its affairs. We are happy to see it pass through this Chamber very quickly.
Wilson Margaret: Visitors — Spain—Speaker of the Senate of the Parliament of Spain 
Wilson Margaret: Visitors — Spain—Speaker of the Senate of the Parliament of Spain 
[Volume:627;Page:21947] 
Madam SPEAKER 
: I have much pleasure in informing members that Mr Francisco Javier Rojo Speaker of the Senate of the Parliament of Spain is within the precincts of this Chamber. I am sure that members would wish that he be welcomed and accorded a seat on the left of the Chair. 
Francisco Javier Rojo accompanied by the Deputy Speaker entered the Chamber and took a seat on the left of the Chair. 
I also wish to welcome members of his delegation who are present in the gallery.
Power Simon: Estimates Debate — In Committee 
Power Simon: Estimates Debate — In Committee 
[Volume:627;Page:22219] 
SIMON POWER (National—Rangitikei) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. There must be some mistake. The New Zealand First member has just spent 10 minutes railing against immigration policy and now he is abstaining. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: That is not a point of order. 
SIMON POWER 
: How can he abstain? 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: That is not a point of order.