SpeechJAMI-LEE ROSS (Botany): Madam Chair I'm hoping to speak on the foreign affairs issue not police. I stayed for the debate because I was interested to see if there'd be any discussion about New Zealand's approach to China going forward and I appreciate that there has been discussion around our trading relationships and the importance of trade for New Zealand going out of COVID-19 and how we recover in the future. But surely off the back of what we've seen where effectively the world is facing mass economic devastation because of a virus that originated in China the world has to be asking how this happened and what China has done about it and our approach to China as a country cannot just be one of trade. There are hard questions that need to be asked and answered. When the Australian Foreign Minister talked about an independent review or an inquiry there were threatening remarks that came her way—came Australia's way—from the Chinese Government representative in the country. When other countries have asked questions there have been threatening remarks go their way. The US Secretary of State called just a few days ago the Chinese approach to coronavirus as a classic case of communist disinformation. He and his Government are expressing serious concerns. That country has kicked out of their country—kicked out of China—Western journalists who have been attempting—CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): I just remind the member that this is actually an annual review debate on the 2018-19 financial year and COVID-19. So I appreciate that he mentioned COVID-19 but he does need to actually target a bit more on either the annual review or the response to COVID-19. JAMI-LEE ROSS: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): Well you can take a point of order. I'm telling you what the ruling is and what the debate is and so you need to actually bring your comments to that subject. JAMI-LEE ROSS: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. I accept what you're saying. I did ask at the start if we could hear something from the Minister. I see the Minister is taking notes. I also only get a proportional amount which is a very short amount of time—CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): That's right but this isn't a general debate and it isn't a general free for all. It's a particular debate and we've organised it in a certain way to give you that opportunity but it still has to be relevant to what's in front of the House and that's either the annual review for the 2018-19 year or COVID-19 response. JAMI-LEE ROSS: Absolutely Madam Chair and I'm asking—well can I continue? I'll try and fit in with—what I'm trying to ask because you can look at current operations under this review is I'm interested to know from the Minister in current operations what the Government's current policy is going to be as our approach to China in the future. Given these questions that the world is asking and given our close trading relationship in the past are we solely going to be approaching China as a trading nation with a trading relationship or are we going to join in properly and ask these hard questions? I did notice some comments in the media by the Minister about this issue days ago. But can he tell the committee quite clearly: will New Zealand be signing up alongside other countries like Australia and the US our traditional partners in questioning how economic devastation around the world has taken place as a result of a virus originating from China where they are not providing real and proper information to the rest of the world? CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): Thank you. That was exactly as I was asking.