Hayes JoJOANNE HAYES (National): I stand to take a short call on the Equal Pay Amendment Bill put up by the member Jan Logie. I think that when we start looking at things like this where we are looking for transparency to reduce gender discrimination and we are asking employers to tick boxes we do not see how wide this thing could actually impact and the risk that it puts women under when an employer is made to tick a box as to the pay equity within their business. It is not one of those types of things that you can put to employers to make them do without any comeback—without any comeback—from the employer to actually find a way to not do that. And what does that mean? It puts at risk some women's positions in their jobs.If you want to have an example of equal pay for equal work let us have a look at a job as a shearer. A lot of people look at that job as a shearer and they think: Ugh! It is a dirty stink job." But it pays well—it pays well to shearers. A woman shearer gets paid exactly the same amount per sheep as a man shearer. They do equal work for equal pay. A woman who works in a shearing gang as a rousie or a woolhandler gets the same as their male counterpart. So when you start to look at positions like that you will find that yes women come and go; but they come and go under the understanding that they will get exactly the same as their male counterparts will get.I think my colleague Barbara Kuriger's speech was a very good one because she pointed out a number of things that this Government has done towards reducing that gap between male and female pay but especially around pay equity which is currently being looked at at the moment. I think that when you start to look at things like that—and I understand that when the member put the bill in all the work that the Government had been doing around pay equity most probably had not come to the fore but it has come to the fore now. It is a little bit like this particular bill has come forward and a lot of things have happened prior to it and that is why I think it looks a little bit outdated.I am not saying to the member: "Your bill's so far out there it's a waste of space." It is not. I think that what the member may need to do is go back look at all of the legislation that has gone through to do with women and pay equity and equity of women and start to develop a more solid bill around those things rather than put this particular bill forward—something that is out of date. It is one of those bills that many of us women on this side sit and look at and think: "Yes well there could be a lot of work done to actually make this bill a strong bill that actually resonates with the current things that are happening within this side of the House and the legislation that is going through."Iain Lees-Galloway: You're lucky no one's watching this Jo.JOANNE HAYES: Oh no I know that there are people because they text me and they go "What a fabulous speech you made." and I go: "Thank you so much."Simon O'Connor: He's mansplaining anyway.JOANNE HAYES: He is mansplaining. I do not know what mansplaining is but anyway—although I commend the member for putting forward the bill I do encourage her to please look at the work that has been done. Let us get some harmonisation with the bills that are there and the work that the Government is doing and let us see whether we can do all of this for womanhood together.Carmel Sepuloni: I thought you said it was going to be a short call.JOANNE HAYES: As I wind up my contribution—my short contribution—I just want to say that yes I am sympathetic towards what the member is trying to put together but at the moment I cannot support the bill. But I thank her anyway. So thank you."