Stanford EricaERICA STANFORD (National—East Coast Bays): Thank you Madam Chair. I just want to pick up on what I started Mr Scott Simpson continued and the Hon David Bennett has mentioned. I want to take issue with the Minister when he says that now is the right time because I would argue that now is the worst time. And I'd argue that it's the worst time because we have no idea at this stage of the impacts of COVID-19 on our economy. We're predicting potentially 300000 people out of work. I don't think we have any idea of the potential impacts on New Zealanders. It doesn't matter if the price of fuel is $1.50 or if it's $2.50 when you don't have a job and you don't have any income and your livelihood has been destroyed by COVID-19. As Scott Simpson mentioned we don't know what the price of fuel is going to do. James Shaw the Hon James Shaw mentioned earlier that in 2008 to 2009 after the Christchurch earthquakes and after the global financial crisis National made some decisions in pulling back on some of those levers round the emissions trading scheme. And we did so for good reason. We did so because we wanted to protect New Zealand's jobs and New Zealanders' livelihoods. We're in an even worse situation now than we were then. And this Minister thinks that now is the right time to effectively impose new taxes on everyday New Zealanders who are potentially going to be going through the worst possible time of their lives because of this crisis. What we are proposing is to just put it out for a 12-month period so that we have the full information about exactly what this economic crisis is going to do to New Zealanders. I don't want the Minister to stand up today and tell me how this climate change is so very urgent that we must act now because the Minister has had $100 million of a Green Investment Fund that he's been sitting on for three years and not done anything with. He had a promise to electrify the Government's fleet. He hasn't done that. Those are simple things he could have done to reduce New Zealand's emissions and be a leader in climate change reduction and he hasn't done any of that stuff. So it would be very rich for him to get up today and tell us that it's so very urgent that we can't put it off for a year when we're looking at potentially the worst economic crisis in living memory. Sorry I get a bit het up but I just find it very rich when the Green Party tell us about this climate change emergency when they can't even spend the $100 million that they got in the Green Investment Fund in the negotiations post-election. There's been nothing on electrifying the Government fleet like they promised. We've got West Coast small-scale hydroelectric dams that they're turning down. These are things that can actually make a difference now that they're not doing. So I don't want to hear that it's that urgent. I want to know from the Minister why now—without any of the information that we could potentially have in 12 months about the scale of this disaster—and why he thinks now is the right time to impose new costs new taxes on Kiwis who are going to be struggling after the potentially 300000 of them lose their jobs and potentially their homes their businesses their livelihoods. At this point in time I would argue that it is the worst possible time—without all of that information in front of us—to be making such enormous decisions about new taxes that will increase the cost of living for everybody in this country.