Brownlee GerryHon GERRY BROWNLEE (National—Ilam): This part of the bill deals with the actual amounts that are being—Hon Chris Hipkins: I've got high expectations; this will be good. Hon GERRY BROWNLEE: Sorry there's the Leader of the House over there. I did not know—there's been an overnight reshuffle and there he is sitting in his new seat on the second row bounced off the front bench. The Hon Chris Hipkins one of the best performing Ministers—no that's not true; one of better—CHAIRPERSON (Poto Williams): Order! Let's come back to the matter at hand thank you. Hon GERRY BROWNLEE: Well I was simply responding to the cruel interjection that came on my contribution.This is the part of the bill that deals with the actual numbers of cents increased on a litre of motor fuel. I think the general public—the motoring public certainly—accepted through a number of years of increases in excise that there was a big roading programme in place for New Zealand. I don't know if anybody who is a regular motorist who regularly uses roads would now say that that very big programme funded largely through motor vehicle excise was a bad thing. Most people look at those extensions of motorways those improvements to roads and they see it as a positive thing. So they don't mind paying excise at a reasonable level. But here we have a Budget item for an increase in excise when the Budget itself shows no new roads being built in New Zealand and no particular expenditure over and above normal going on roading. So what we have is the motorists of New Zealand paying an extra 7c a litre over the next two years so that the Government can advance its programme for rail and for light rail and for all sorts of other bits and pieces around the place. They have not been upfront enough—well the Minister of Transport hasn't—to say actually this is to discourage people from using motor vehicles. This is designed to get people on to bicycles and on to their feet and into public transport—and to put up with the sort of reliability issues that we've seen here in Wellington and that we see in all sorts of other parts of the country—because the use of the motor vehicle is going to become so expensive. That's unreasonable. So I intend shortly to put a Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) on the Table of the House to ensure that the public do know how much is being collected in excise and other Government charges on every litre of motor fuel. That SOP is going to ask that the IRD supply to all sales outlets for motor fuels an A3-sized fully framed easily installed statement of just how much excise is being taken by the Government so it can be seen for example that today's 3.5c for 1 July this year and the 3.5c for next year same date and turning up to 7c is just the start because there's a little bit of GST on top of that as well.I think people need to understand and get a little bit more demanding of the current Government about the quality of roads that are available in New Zealand and some of the improvements that are needed as well as some of the big extensions of motorways that are required around the country.There is a suggestion that Well people will be actually quite pleased that we're going to get people out of motor vehicles and get them into public transport and on their bicycles and even the e-scooters for that matter." although of course watch out there; I suspect regulation is coming—we'll just see how the Government responds to a proposal that's currently before them at the moment. The SOP is not intended to be an encumbrance upon those who are retailers of or wholesalers of motor spirits. It is intended to be information so that the public will know that when they are paying their $2.50 for a litre of motor fuel—in this case petrol—about half of that belongs to the fuel supplier but a big huge chunk of it belongs to the Government and a smaller chunk actually is in the distribution and sales of the motor fuel itself. I can't see why that would be a bad thing. I think in the spirit of openness and transparency making sure that people can see what the Government's up to—this would be a perfectly reasonable thing for the House to accept. I look forward to it being well supported by the Minister when it's on the Table shortly."