Logie JanJAN LOGIE (Green): I want to continue on from my colleague Denise Roche's theme really about working together and empowering people in our community to be able to look after themselves and look after the people around them. The Green Party wants a society where every family has enough to sustain itself. We want people to be able to live in communities that are empowered and free to be able to respond to the problems that they see around them and to be able to look after each other. It concerns me that we seem increasingly to have a real division between different communities in this country and their experiences of life.There are some of my friends who get out in the garden after a day at work and after getting a fair pay packet and they can go out at the weekend and their life is good. They get to enjoy the beauty and the vibrancy of this country which I have got to say makes me so attached to this place.And yet when I was driving to work at half past 6 this morning or around then and listening to the news stories I was hearing stories of homelessness on top of stories of mental health breakdown on top of what I hear through select committees of domestic violence and sexual violence and—just the degree of hardship. There is such a fundamental disconnect between the experiences of thousands upon thousands of New Zealanders and what some of us experience this country as—such a great place.For me it is at the heart of what it is to be Green and part of it is to actually connect those realities and get rid of homelessness get rid of poverty and get rid of domestic and sexual violence. I know that most of my friends and the people I know and many many people I know who are doing well want to be part of that solution. When they take a moment and they think about kids living in a car and going to school they feel uncomfortable. It is not the country that they know. It tarnishes their experience of this country and I want us to do something about that. That is pretty much what this is about for me—being in here. It is a belief that we can do something about all of those things. We are not going to do it by decisions of the Government—of the Government knowing what is best. We are going to do it by listening to each other and making it possible for all of us to be involved in that. Some of the answer to that is about making sure everyone has got an income and is able to participate and the Government getting those settings right. We are still just seeing a kind of acceptance of the hardship and a commitment to mitigate the pain rather than resolve it.But another part of it is to re-empower our community organisations. As our community and voluntary sector spokesperson I know that these people are supporting our families every day on some of those really tough issues. When I go visiting those people their faces so often—all too often now—are grey with stress because the families that they are working with are dealing with such complex issues. These organisations—these people trying to help them navigate the system and trying to support them—are not funded properly to be able to spend the time to do that properly.Now the Government is thinking that it has got the answers to the communities' problems—all you need to do is collect the data and an algorithm will tell us the answer. That actually is now putting another barrier in the way of people going to get help. It is avoiding the fact that the solutions will come through relationship and resource and that that happens at a community level. We cannot gag our community organisations from speaking out and we need to fund them and actually encourage them to tell us when we have got it wrong—to make sure that we know what they are seeing in front of the families in their communities.