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Chadwick Steve: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Chadwick Steve: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:613;Page:9931] 
8.  
STEVE CHADWICK (Labour—Rotorua) 
 to the  
Minister of Health 
: What progress is being made towards the redevelopment of Dunstan Hospital? 
Hon ANNETTE KING (Minister of Health) 
: 
 Considerable progress has been made towards a new facility at Dunstan. I visited the hospital in December 2002 to see the state of it and since then the district health board the Ministry of Health and the trust have undertaken a lot of work. As I have already announced I will be in a position to outline the time frame for redevelopment and funding before Christmas. 
Steve Chadwick 
: What representations if any have been made by MPs on this issue? 
Hon ANNETTE KING 
: I have received endless representations from the local member of Parliament David Parker who in fact has worn a track to my door and overheated the telephone line on this issue. He took me to the hospital in December last year to advocate further for a new facility. I had one letter from the Hon Peter Dunne in August 2000 but I have never heard from Katherine Rich although according to news reports she would have people believe that she was the main promoter of it. As far as I can see she has promoted only herself. 
Pita Paraone 
: Why has Dunstan Hospital been allowed to deteriorate to the point where it has posed a health and safety hazard; and how many other hospitals are there in similar circumstances? 
Hon ANNETTE KING 
: I am pleased to tell the member that there are not many hospitals like Dunstan Hospital left. Most of them are part of a building project including the old Kew Hospital in Invercargill. It waited for years for redevelopment and did not get the money until we became the Government. I could also name many others. Dunstan Hospital needed redevelopment; it had been neglected for a long time. I am glad to say we have taken that seriously and will fund it. 
Mark Peck 
: When was Dunstan Hospital last substantially upgraded? 
Hon ANNETTE KING 
: The last substantial redevelopment was about 50 years ago. For the last 3 decades National held the Otago electorate and it did not redevelop it. In the most recent decade two former leaders of the National Party—both were Ministers of Health: Mrs Shipley and Mr English—did nothing. They did not upgrade it. It was not until we became the Government that the issue was taken seriously. People will have a new hospital in Dunstan and they can thank this Government for listening to them rather than going out making speeches and pretending to listen.
Vote: Relationships (Statutory References) Bill; AND BILLS THEREFROM — Third Readings 
Vote: Relationships (Statutory References) Bill; AND BILLS THEREFROM — Third Readings 
[Volume:624;Page:19189] 
A personal vote was called for on the question  
That the Relationships (Statutory References) Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 76 
Anderton(P) 
Duynhoven   
Laban (P) 
Samuels(P) 
Barker(P) 
Dyson(P) 
Locke   
Shirley(P) 
Barnett   
Ewen-Street   
Mackey J (P) 
Simich(P) 
Benson-Pope(P) 
Fairbrother(P) 
Mackey M 
Sowry(P) 
Beyer   
Fitzsimons(P) 
Maharey(P) 
Sutton(P) 
Bradford(P) 
Gallagher(P) 
Mahuta(P) 
Swain(P) 
Burton(P) 
Goff(P) 
Mallard(P) 
Tamihere(P) 
Carter C (P) 
Gosche(P) 
Mapp(P) 
Tanczos(P) 
Chadwick(P) 
Hartley(P) 
Mark(P) 
Tizard   
Choudhary(P) 
Hawkins(P) 
McCully(P) 
Turei(P) 
Clark(P) 
Hereora(P) 
O'Connor(P) 
Ward   
Coddington(P) 
Hide(P) 
Okeroa(P) 
Williamson(P) 
Cosgrove(P) 
Hobbs(P) 
Parker(P) 
Wilson(P) 
Cullen(P) 
Hodgson(P) 
Peck(P) 
Wong(P) 
Cunliffe(P) 
Horomia(P) 
Pillay(P) 
Yates 
Dalziel(P) 
Hughes   
Rich(P) 
Donald(P) 
Hunt(P) 
Ririnui(P) 
Donnelly(P) 
Kedgley(P) 
Robertson(P) 
Duncan(P) 
Key(P) 
Robson(P) 
Teller: 
Dunne(P) 
King(P) 
Roy(P) 
Pettis   
Noes 43 
Adams   
Copeland(P) 
Ogilvy(P) 
Stewart(P) 
Alexander(P) 
Eckhoff(P) 
Paraone(P) 
te Heuheu  
Ardern(P) 
English(P) 
Perry(P) 
Turia(P) 
Baldock(P) 
Field(P) 
Peters J (P) 
Turner(P) 
Brash(P) 
Franks   
Peters W (P) 
Woolerton(P) 
Brown(P) 
Goudie(P) 
Power(P) 
Worth(P) 
Brownlee(P) 
Gudgeon(P) 
Prebble(P) 
Carter D (P) 
Heatley(P) 
Ryall(P) 
Carter J (P) 
Hutchison(P) 
Scott(P) 
Catchpole   
Jones   
Smith L (P) 
Collins(P) 
McNair(P) 
Smith M (P) 
Teller: 
Connell(P) 
Newman(P) 
Smith N (P) 
Tisch   
Bill read a third time.
Vote: Immigration Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Vote: Immigration Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:609;Page:6777] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 1 be agreed to. 
Ayes 60 
Labour 52; United Future 8. 
Noes 55 
New Zealand National 25; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; Green Party 9. 
Clause 1 agreed to.
Tamihere John: Ngati Tama Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
Tamihere John: Ngati Tama Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:613;Page:10248] 
Hon JOHN TAMIHERE (Associate Minister of Maori Affairs) 
: 
 I commend the bill to the House in its third reading. I acknowledge the contribution made by the member for Taranaki – King Country. I want to raise a number of things and the first is to acknowledge the undoubted and significant work of the Minister in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations the Hon Margaret Wilson. It is right that in this House we do rise on behalf of our colleagues and I express the merit the capability and the capacity that this Minister has brought to this very difficult task. I want to commend her and place that commendation on the record. 
The second point I want to make relates to the settlement process per se. It is very important that our difficulties are told. It is very important that a healing process occurs—and it has and this legislation brings it to a conclusion. But more important let us get over its victim-hood status. The true test in the next 10 years for Maori leadership whether it is for Ngati Tama or elsewhere will be how the rubber hits the road and how these assets are aligned with where our underperforming communities are. That is the true test and we will be vigilant about that on behalf of the beneficiaries of these assets. It is about getting these assets linked to the many—not to the few. 
This is a big test. It is a huge challenge and it is now in the hands of Maori people like those in leadership of Ngati Tama to ensure that the rubber hits the road so that in the next 10 years when our babies are coming through they are no longer the cabin boys in this ship but the captains. Those are the sorts of key benchmarks we want as a people. The challenge now is on our people’s leadership. The challenge now is not for the Government to make everything happen; the challenge now is not for Pakeha people to have a burden of guilt; the challenge now is directly on our leadership. 
I look forward to the leadership of Ngati Tama being a key exemplar of demonstrating quite clearly that these assets and these settlements will be linked with our performance and that our performance will be a beacon as we start to produce the pride in ourselves we undoubtedly have and release the potential we undoubtedly have. That is why this part of the process is a great part and I commend the bill to the House accordingly.
Tanczos Nandor: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Tanczos Nandor: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8489] 
NANDOR TANCZOS (Green) 
: 
 I apologise but I am not sure what number it was. 
Jill Pettis 
: Let’s move on. We can’t vote on something when we don’t know what we are voting on. 
NANDOR TANCZOS 
: It was the only vote that went through on the voices. I am not sure— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Leave has been sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There appears to be.
Vote: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:17085] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment to the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 19 
Green Party 9; United Future 8; Maori Party 1; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 101 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment to the amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 302 in the name of the Hon Dr Michael Cullen to Part 3 be agreed to.
Burton Mark: Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2) — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Burton Mark: Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2) — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:608;Page:5500] 
Hon MARK BURTON (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. I refer members to Speakers’ rulings 63/1 and 63/2 which make it very clear particularly in the second ruling that in Committee the chairperson is the sole judge of the question of relevancy. It would be helpful to members to read the rules of the Committee particularly that Speaker’s ruling because it establishes clearly the responsibility of us all to accept the appropriate judgments of the Chair when they are made. 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: If they’re fair. 
Hon MARK BURTON 
: The member cannot keep saying that. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: No. The point of order has been dealt with and it cannot be relitigated.
Duncan Helen: Railways Bill — First Reading 
Duncan Helen: Railways Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:610;Page:7420] 
HELEN DUNCAN (NZ Labour) 
: 
 I am pleased to support this bill which seeks to improve safety so that rail passengers rail workers and indeed even rail freight will not come to harm and can travel safely on our New Zealand railway system. The bill is focused on safety issues and I commend it to the House.
Stewart Barbara: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Stewart Barbara: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 21 February 2007. Volume:637;Page:7541. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
5.  
BARBARA STEWART (NZ First) 
 to the  
Minister of Health 
: Does he consider that the granting of extra funds for primary maternity services is all that is needed to ensure a nationally consistent service; if not what else is his ministry doing to improve maternity services? 
Hon DAMIEN O'CONNOR (Associate Minister of Health) 
 on behalf of the 
 Minister of Health 
: I would like to thank the member for her continuing interest in maternity care. The additional $11.4 million announced in early February will greatly assist retention of the primary maternity workforce. Doctors and midwives have been supportive of the funding increase. Funding is only part of the story and they have especially welcomed being involved in developing even better services for pregnant women by improving connections between services for them. 
Barbara Stewart 
: Does the Minister consider it likely that his call for “primary providers to continue to develop integration between services and professional groups so as to maximise services to women” will be acted upon without more leadership from his ministry than is currently being displayed? 
Hon DAMIEN O'CONNOR 
: This Government is supportive of the cooperation between doctors midwives district health boards and the ministry that was signalled by the parties involved after the announcement on 2 February. 
Lesley Soper 
: Does he know of any other initiatives that will support the provision of better maternity services for New Zealand women? 
Hon DAMIEN O'CONNOR 
: Yes there are more initiatives. Just this month a pilot midwifery entry to practice programme has been rolled out. Over the next 2 years a total of $4.7 million has been allocated to pilot a programme aimed at supporting new graduate midwives in December 2005 the Government injected $18.4 million into primary maternity services across the country and late in 2006 the Government announced a $2 million fund for rural midwives. 
Barbara Stewart 
: Has the Minister’s Ministry of Health considered bringing midwives into primary health organisations to have them work with general practitioners in order to provide a more consistent service; if not why not? 
Hon DAMIEN O'CONNOR 
: I believe that this has been discussed between the parties and we welcome progress in this matter.
Peters Winston: Tabling of Documents — Jim Peron 
Peters Winston: Tabling of Documents — Jim Peron 
[Volume:625;Page:20037] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I seek leave to table two articles written by Jim Peron entitled “The Claptrap Over Child Porn” parts 1 and 2 written in May 2003. 
Documents by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Vote: Appropriation (2004/05 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
Vote: Appropriation (2004/05 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
[Volume:619;Page:14984] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Imprest Supply (Second for 2004/05) Bill be now read a second time. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand Labour 51; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 59 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 8; Maori Party 1; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Bill read a second time.
Gosche Mark: Diplomatic Privileges and Immunities Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
Gosche Mark: Diplomatic Privileges and Immunities Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:615;Page:11183] 
Hon MARK GOSCHE (Labour—Maungakiekie) 
: 
 I am pleased to be able to support the second reading of this bill. The report of the Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade Committee quite simply explains that the passing of the bill will enable New Zealand to ratify the Agreement on the Privileges and Immunities of the International Criminal Court. As Dr Wayne Mapp has just indicated that offers protection to diplomats and representatives of our Government who participate in those activities. The bill I believe needs to be supported by this House.
Visitors — Delegation from Australia 
Visitors — Delegation from Australia 
[Volume:610;Page:7131] 
Tuesday 22 July 2003 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Visitors 
Delegation from Australia 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have much pleasure in informing members that a delegation from Australia representing the Australia - New Zealand Political Exchange led by Jeremy Rockliff a member of the House of Assembly Tasmania is present. I am sure members would wish to welcome the delegation.
Vote: Relationships (Statutory References) Bill — First Reading 
Vote: Relationships (Statutory References) Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:618;Page:13986] 
A personal vote was called for on the question  
That the Relationships (Statutory References) Bill be now read a first time.  
Ayes 77 
Anderton (P) 
Duynhoven 
Laban (P) 
Simich 
Barker 
Dyson 
Locke (P) 
Smith L 
Barnett (P) 
Ewen-Street (P) 
Mackey J 
Sowry (P) 
Benson-Pope 
Fairbrother (P) 
Mackey M (P) 
Sutton (P) 
Beyer (P) 
Fitzsimons(P) 
Maharey (P) 
Swain (P) 
Bradford 
Gallagher 
Mahuta (P) 
Tamihere (P) 
Brash (P) 
Goff (P) 
Mallard (P) 
Tanczos 
Burton (P) 
Gosche 
Mapp (P) 
Te Heuheu 
Carter C 
Hartley 
Mark 
Tizard (P) 
Chadwick (P) 
Hawkins (P) 
McCully (P) 
Turei (P) 
Choudhary (P) 
Hereora (P) 
Okeroa 
Turner (P) 
Clark (P) 
Hide 
Parker (P) 
Ward (P) 
Copeland 
Hobbs (P) 
Peck (P) 
Williamson 
Cullen 
Hodgson (P) 
Pillay 
Wilson (P) 
Cunliffe (P) 
Horomia 
Rich 
Wong 
Dalziel (P) 
Hughes 
Ririnui (P) 
Yates (P) 
Donald 
Hunt (P) 
Robertson (P) 
Donnelly 
Kedgley (P) 
Robson (P) 
Duncan 
Key (P) 
Samuels (P) 
Teller: 
Dunne 
King (P) 
Shirley 
Pettis 
Noes 42 
Adams 
Collins (P) 
McNair 
Ryall 
Alexander 
Cosgrove (P) 
Newman 
Scott (P) 
Ardern (P) 
Eckhoff 
O'Connor 
Smith M (P) 
Awatere Huata 
English 
Ogilvy 
Smith N 
Baldock 
Field (P) 
Paraone 
Stewart 
Brown 
Franks 
Perry (P) 
Tisch 
Brownlee (P) 
Goudie 
Peters J 
Woolerton (P) 
Carter D (P) 
Gudgeon (P) 
Peters W 
Worth(P) 
Carter J 
Heatley 
Power 
Catchpole 
Hutchison (P) 
Prebble 
Teller: 
Coddington 
Jones 
Roy 
Connell 
Bill read a first time and referred to the Justice and Electoral Committee.
Simich Clem: Overseas Investment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Simich Clem: Overseas Investment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:21579] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: I thank the member. I need no further assistance; the matter has been very clearly laid out by the person who raised the point of order. Yes on a literal reading of the Standing Orders it would appear to be correct. However it is a very longstanding practice in the Committee and in the House that with consent a member can sign on behalf of another member. That is what has happened this time and it is for the convenience of members. But I think it is an issue that needs to be looked at and I will get a proper ruling from the Speaker as to this practice.
Vote: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Stockholm Convention) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Stockholm Convention) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:609;Page:6991] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 48 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Noes 69 
Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Richard Worth be agreed to: 
to omit paragraph (b) from the definition of  
Stockholm Convention 
.
Mackey Janet: Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — In Committee 
Mackey Janet: Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8695] 
JANET MACKEY (NZ Labour—East Coast) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: I think members have clearly indicated that they wish to continue discussing the provisions of the bill.
Hughes Darren: Crimes (Abolition of Force as a Justification for Child Discipline) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Hughes Darren: Crimes (Abolition of Force as a Justification for Child Discipline) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:627;Page:22088] 
DARREN HUGHES (Junior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. Just as a further clarification often during a treaty settlement bill the gallery will contribute by way of either a waiata or applause as we have just heard. The National Party never objects to that. Can I just take it that this new one standard of citizenship will apply to the largely Pakeha crowd in the audience tonight as well?
Hartley Ann: Civil Union Bill — In Committee Procedure 
Hartley Ann: Civil Union Bill — In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:622;Page:17617] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: The next question is an amendment in the name of Richard Worth. It is his first amendment to clause 2 to omit the commencement date and substitute words set out on Supplementary Order Paper 314. The amendment relates to a referendum to be held by postal vote. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 314 in the name of Richard Worth to clause 2(1) be agreed to.
Stewart Barbara: Children’s Commissioner Bill — In Committee 
Stewart Barbara: Children’s Commissioner Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:613;Page:9896] 
BARBARA STEWART (NZ First) 
: 
 I would like to look particularly at clause 7 “Appointment of Commissioner”. It is really vital that the nomination and selection of the commissioner is a transparent process and as such the amendment to clause 7 is an important one. The bill takes some steps to ensure that suggestions for appointment are made from outside and are free of interference from any political party—and of course from ministerial processes. With the recent appointment of the new Commissioner for Children cross-party consultation would have been an advantage to the appointment process because it is essential that the role of the commissioner remains independent at all times. 
When we look at clause 11(1)(g) we see that the bill now appears to give the court greater powers to suggest that the commissioner can give both verbal and written reports on his or her work. This means that the work of the commissioner may be curtailed as she gets involved in this rapidly growing area because the court process seems to be a very lengthy one and increasing as time goes on. 
New clause 12A “Commissioner to develop means of consulting with children” places an obligation on the commissioner to consult with children in certain circumstances. It is really vital that the potential legislation promotes an approach that empowers children and young people to participate in the decisions that affect them. We really do have to consider what children and young people feel about their society and their lives so New Zealand First will be supporting this part.
Williamson Maurice: Debate on Iraq 
Williamson Maurice: Debate on Iraq 
[Volume:607;Page:4125] 
Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (NZ National—Pakuranga) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I do not think that is acceptable. I heard some of it but it was a quite long-winded motion with a number of fairly long sentences. If we are to be asked to vote on it we have a right to hear that motion once again. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Despite the fact that it has been on the Table since 2 o’clock I think the member is right. I ask the member to read it.
Hughes Darren: Minimum Wage Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Hughes Darren: Minimum Wage Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:608;Page:5141] 
DARREN HUGHES (NZ Labour—Otaki) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Visitors — Attorney-General and Minister of Justice of Tonga Committee on Ecology—Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation 
Visitors — Attorney-General and Minister of Justice of Tonga Committee on Ecology—Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation 
[Volume:608;Page:5815] 
Tuesday 20 May 2003 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Visitors 
Attorney-General and Minister of Justice of Tonga 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have much pleasure in informing the House that the Hon ’Aisea Taumoepeau Attorney-General and Minister of Justice of the Kingdom of Tonga is present in the gallery. I am sure that members would wish that the Minister be welcomed. 
Committee on Ecology—Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I also have much pleasure in informing the House that members of the Committee on Ecology of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation led by Mr Vladimir Grachev are present in the gallery. I am sure that members would wish that the delegation be welcomed.
Chadwick Steve: Care of Children Bill — Instruction to Committee Procedure In Committee 
Chadwick Steve: Care of Children Bill — Instruction to Committee Procedure In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:16666] 
STEVE CHADWICK (Labour—Rotorua) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Shirley Ken: Maori Television Service Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled 
Shirley Ken: Maori Television Service Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled 
[Volume:607;Page:5003] 
Hon KEN SHIRLEY (Deputy Leader—ACT NZ) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I understand that prior to the dinner break in this debate there was some difficulty in the Committee. Specifically I refer to an amendment to clause 1 “Title” in the name of Georgina te Heuheu. The amendment that Georgina te Heuheu tabled was in the Maori language and my colleague Rodney Hide—I believe appropriately—sought a translation of that. Indeed I draw your attention Mr Chairman to Standing Order 360 “Translation of documents”: “The Speaker”—and of course you as the Chairman in the Committee stage—“may order that bills introduced into the House and reports petitions and papers presented to it are to be translated and printed in another language.” Those would certainly include amendments and Supplementary Order Papers. Why I raise the point— 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I do not need any further assistance. 
Hon KEN SHIRLEY 
: If I may persist for a moment longer it may be helpful. My colleague was asked to leave the Chamber on the basis of asking for a translation. I believe he was justified in asking for a translation under the Standing Orders and indeed the Speakers’ rulings. I seek that he be readmitted to the Chamber this evening as I believe it was most inappropriate of the then Chairperson to ask him to leave. I accept that it was not yourself at that time but I would like you to rule in favour of that proposal. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I thank the honourable member for his contribution. I am not aware of the reason for Mr Hide being ordered to leave the Chamber so I cannot comment on that but I will comment on Standing Order 360. Standing Order 360 provides that the Speaker may order a translation. Therefore I have arranged for a translation of the Hon Georgina te Heuheu’s amendment to clause 1 to be made available. It is at the Table if members wish to inspect it.
Cunliffe David: Overseas Investment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Cunliffe David: Overseas Investment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:626;Page:21552] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Associate Minister of Finance) 
: 
 I am reluctant to take a call but I will take one quickly just to point out some of the inconsistencies in the submission by the previous speaker. He said that this Government lacks principle by bringing in a range of measures that provide some protection for sensitive land that is sought to be held by foreign investors. Well that is a bit rich because there is no lack of principle there. This Government has taken a very sensible moderate and balanced position on the one hand screening negative investment in sensitive and iconic land—and the Finance and Expenditure Committee has further developed the screening factors that will allow that—and on the other hand encouraging foreign investment and lowering compliance costs in areas where that is clearly in the net national interest to do so. That is the appropriate balance. 
Talk about a lack of principle—that member is from a party that when it gets out on the hustings rails against foreign investment and the country being flogged off overseas. Then its members come into this Committee and fail to support a sensible moderate amendment by my colleague that would protect an iconic space around riverbeds and marginal strips. Well they cannot have it both ways. Are they the defenders of the little guy or are they what they proved themselves to be last time—God forbid it happen again—they ever got near the Treasury benches: “… full of sound and fury Signifying nothing.”?
Hartley Ann: Government Superannuation Fund Amendment Bill (No 2) — In Committee 
Hartley Ann: Government Superannuation Fund Amendment Bill (No 2) — In Committee 
[Volume:606;Page:3844] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: Would the member please be seated. I am warning the member now that raising constant points of order on matters that I have ruled on is in itself disorderly. If the member persists with that line I will have no choice but to ask him to leave the Chamber. That in itself is disorderly. 
Rodney Hide 
: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: I have given the member a warning. 
Rodney Hide 
: Yes. You said in your last ruling that it is unacceptable on a point of order to accuse a member of intimidating the Chair. But that was when I did it. What you have not been prepared to rule on is that it is unacceptable for Dr Michael Cullen to do it but that is exactly what he did. My point is that if you allow that to stand we will have a disorderly Parliament because at any time anyone can take a point of order and accuse a member of a breach of privilege. I do not think Dr Cullen wants the Committee to go down that chute either. 
Hon Roger Sowry 
: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson.
Benson-Pope David: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Transitional Provisions and Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Benson-Pope David: Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (Transitional Provisions and Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:613;Page:10133] 
DAVID BENSON-POPE (Senior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I understand that my colleague has had discussion with the other whips. The House has made good progress and I seek leave for the House to rise at this time. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Leave has been sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Hartley Ann: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Hartley Ann: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:612;Page:9371] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: The amendment in the name of Keith Locke to clause 26 is out of order because it is inconsistent with a previous decision of the Committee. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Keith Locke to clause 33 be agreed to: 
to omit this clause.
Hunt Jonathan: Speaker’s Rulings — Point of Order—Dr Cullen  
Hunt Jonathan: Speaker’s Rulings — Point of Order—Dr Cullen  
[Volume:612;Page:9034] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: When I was ruling earlier tonight I called Dr Cullen for a point of order thinking that he had raised one. When Mr Brownlee protested. I said that Dr Cullen had raised a point of order and explained expressly. I thought he had done so. I am now aware he did not say “point of order”. I was in error in my assumption that he had said so and I apologise to Mr Brownlee for not calling him at that time.
Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH 
Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH 
[Volume:611;Page:8690] 
Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill 
Instruction to CommitteeCWH 
Hon JUDITH TIZARD (Minister of Consumer Affairs) 
: 
 I move  
That it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill that it take the bill part by part and consider any schedules as one question 
. 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 69 
Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Noes 48 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Motion agreed to.
Peters Jim: Urgent Debates Declined — Local Government—Election Results 
Peters Jim: Urgent Debates Declined — Local Government—Election Results 
[Volume:620;Page:16099] 
JIM PETERS (NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Am I to conclude that in the worst botch-up of local government elections in the whole history of this country you are not allowing a debate?
Jones Dail: Immigration Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Jones Dail: Immigration Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:609;Page:6795] 
DAIL JONES (NZ First) 
: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. Can I now assume in view of the wide-ranging speech made by the Minister that this is now a wide-ranging debate? We welcome the Minister’s speech and we look forward to responding to it in detail.
Mark Ron: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Mark Ron: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:624;Page:19365] 
RON MARK (NZ First) 
: 
 I am going to try one more time. I seek the leave of the House to table a letter from a constituent who visited the police on three occasions to lay charges against Mr Tame Iti long before the police actually decided to do so. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? Yes there is. The document will not be tabled.
Tisch Lindsay: Border Security Bill — In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Border Security Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:617;Page:13283] 
LINDSAY TISCH (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I note that the Government is moving closure motions. If this legislation is as important as the Minister said it was and if we look at what Part 1 is about we can see there are 64 pages. A number of members on this side of the Chamber are seeking a call. I ask you Mr Chairman that before you accept a closure motion you take into account that Part 1 is the biggest part of this bill far bigger than Part 2 and of course far bigger than the title debate and that you give due consideration to the number of speakers on this side of the Chamber who are seeking the call on this very important legislation.
Tamihere John: Resource Management (Aquaculture Moratorium Extension) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Tamihere John: Resource Management (Aquaculture Moratorium Extension) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:616;Page:11743] 
Hon JOHN TAMIHERE (Minister of Youth Affairs) 
: 
 Before commending the bill to the House for its third reading I want to take issue with a number of assertions made by the member for Whangarei in his third reading speech. It is right in this House that we have scrutiny of the highest standard and that robust accountability and transparency is asked for. It is not right when we are disingenuous in respect of a bunch of Kiwis solely because they are Maori and that member went a tad too far today—as did his leader. We should lift our debate a bit and start to acknowledge that we have to start to move this thing forward. The comments made were not the best of comments and I expect better from the member for Whangarei. 
Inevitably when aquaculture marine areas are declared in terms of space it is obviously a proprietary interest that is granted and just as people staked their claims in the days of the gold rush so too that has occurred here. We therefore have to be very reserved and very reflective about the way proprietary interests in the coastal domain are handed out and applied notwithstanding an industry on the cusp of being a sunrise industry which aquaculture is. We acknowledge that. 
I commend my colleague the Minister of Fisheries and members on this side of the House for a number of infrastructure things we have had to address. This is another infrastructural issue and it is much the same as other areas we have had to clear up such as telecommunications electricity transport information and communication technology and the roll out of broadband. It is this Labour Government that has had to put in huge effort to set in place prudent appropriate infrastructure that allows fairness to all—not just to the big end of town that Dr Brash and his colleagues represent. I commend this legislation to the House.
Vote: Local Government Law Reform Bill (No 3) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Vote: Local Government Law Reform Bill (No 3) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:618;Page:14134] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 48 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Noes 70 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 232 in the name of the Hon Chris Carter to Part 6 be agreed to. 
Amendments agreed to and Part 6 as amended agreed to.
Turia Tariana: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Turia Tariana: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:619;Page:14609] 
9.  
TARIANA TURIA (Leader—Maori Party) 
 to the  
Minister of Health 
: Do all health organisations receiving funding from the district health boards require the mandate of iwi authorities or the endorsement of other health providers operating within the district health board boundaries? 
Hon ANNETTE KING (Minister of Health) 
: 
 No. 
Tariana Turia 
: Why should Te Roopu Huihuinga Hauora lose its contract with the Hawke’s Bay District Health Board for iwi mandate issues and every Maori health provider’s endorsement when it met all other aspects of its contract? 
Hon ANNETTE KING 
: I am advised by the Hawke’s Bay District Health Board that because there were historical issues with the local iwi and the Maori development organisation the district health board and Ngahiwi Tomoana agreed that a good solution was for there to be such a decision and in this case it would require a mandate.
Mahuta Nanaia: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Question Time 
Mahuta Nanaia: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Question Time 
[Volume:610;Page:7439] 
11.  
NANAIA MAHUTA (NZ Labour—Tainui) 
 to the  
Associate Minister of Tourism 
: He aha ngaa kaupapa i te Kawanatanga. He tautoko ngaa mahi taapoi Maaori? 
Translation: 
 What is the Government doing to support and develop Maori tourism throughout New Zealand? 
Hon DOVER SAMUELS (Associate Minister of Tourism) 
: 
Kei te whakatakoto te Kawanatanga te rautaki ki te tau 2010 te putea $1000000 mo nga tau e toru ki te tautoko i nga ropu Maori tapoi kia tuai i roto i ia rohe ia rohe puta noa i te motu. The Government has made a commitment to Maori tourism by implementing a key recommendation from the New Zealand Tourism Strategy 2010. This Government has set aside funding of approximately $1 million over 3 years to develop Maori regional tourism groups right around New Zealand. 
Nanaia Mahuta 
: He aha etehi o nga taonga tuturu Maori e pai ana ki nga manuwhiri tuarangi i to ratou taunga mai ki Aotearoa? 
[An interpretation in English was given to the House.] 
[ 
What are some aspects of traditional Maori life that appeal to visitors from afar when they land here in New Zealand? 
] 
Hon DOVER SAMUELS 
: Kei te maha nga manuhiri e haere mai ana ki te whai i nga tikanga Maori. Kei te whakamiharo ratou nga manuhiri ki te ataahua o nga waiata me nga mihi whakatau i roto o te reo Maori me te reo o nga matua tupuna. Te tohu tenei wiki ko te korero i te reo Maori. Many visitors who come to New Zealand come for a Maori cultural experience. They show their appreciation when they are entertained by waiata and mihi of welcome in the Maori language—the language of our tupuna. It is particularly significant this week to encourage our people to speak in the Maori language—this being Maori Language Week. 
Metiria Turei 
: Kei hea tetahi wahi marumaru mo te mana whakairo hinengaro me te mana ahurea Maori kei whakahekea ki te turanga o te tiki kirihou? 
[An interpretation in English was given to the House.] 
[ 
Where will Maori intellectual property and cultural rights be placed in the strategy to protect them so that their status is not reduced to that of a plastic tiki? 
]  
Hon DOVER SAMUELS 
: Koia tena tetahi a nga tirohanga a te ripoata a te Kawanatanga mo nga ahuatanga e pa ana ki nga tapoi Maori e pa ana ki te iwi Maori. Na ko tena ko tetahi o nga taonga e korero nei i roto o te ripoata kei te whai i te Kawanatanga. There is a report from Te Puni Kokiri in terms of branding Maori and using a standard in terms of the presentation and production of the Maori tourism product right throughout Aotearoa.
Tizard Judith: Meat Board Restructuring Bill — First Reading 
Tizard Judith: Meat Board Restructuring Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:615;Page:11040] 
Hon JUDITH TIZARD (Minister of Consumer Affairs) 
 on behalf of the  
Minister of Agriculture 
: I move  
That the Meat Board Restructuring Bill be referred to the Primary Production Committee 
referred to the Primary Production Committee 
 for consideration that the committee report the bill by 27 May 2004 and that the committee have the authority to meet at any time while the House is sitting except during oral questions and during any evening on a day on which there has been a sitting of the House on a Friday in a week in which there has been a sitting of the House and outside the Wellington area on a day the House is sitting despite Standing Orders 191 193(a) and 194(1)(b) and (c).
Cullen Michael: Local Government Law Reform Bill (No 2) — Referral to Local Government and Environment Committee referral back to the Local Government and Environment Committee 
Cullen Michael: Local Government Law Reform Bill (No 2) — Referral to Local Government and Environment Committee referral back to the Local Government and Environment Committee 
[Volume:606;Page:3257] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I seek leave for Government order of the day No. 40 relating to consideration of the report on the Local Government Law Reform Bill (No 2) to be discharged and the bill referred to the Local Government and Environment Committee for further consideration and that the committee have the power to consider and if it thinks fit adopt any amendments relating to the control and care of dogs. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course being followed? 
Dail Jones 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. We would prefer to have this matter dealt with by way of Supplementary Order Paper and I have prepared a further motion. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Objection has been raised and that is the end of the matter. 
Dail Jones 
: No no. I am not objecting to it; I am just saying that— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Please be seated. Someone has raised objection. That is the end of the matter.
Vote: Tariff (New Zealand - Thailand Closer Economic Partnership) Bill — First Reading 
Vote: Tariff (New Zealand - Thailand Closer Economic Partnership) Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:625;Page:20619] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Tariff (New Zealand - Thailand Closer Economic Partnership) Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 97 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; ACT New Zealand 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 23 
New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9; Maori Party 1. 
Bill read a first time.
Simich Clem: Christchurch City Council (Robert McDougall Gallery) Land Vesting Bill — Procedure Second Reading 
Simich Clem: Christchurch City Council (Robert McDougall Gallery) Land Vesting Bill — Procedure Second Reading 
[Volume:611;Page:8797] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Clem Simich) 
: I thank Dr Mapp for that contribution. The fact is that leave was sought to table a document leave was granted and that document is in the custody of the Clerk now and any member may familiarise himself or herself with that document. I do not intend to reverse my ruling. I accept that there was a slight misdescription. I do not think it had any bearing whatsoever despite what members say on the agreement to the leave. I refer you to Speaker’s ruling 113/5. I have ruled similar to that ruling that the slight misdescription did not invalidate the tabling. The document is in the custody of the Clerk. It has been tabled. Where you wish to move from here is over to you—I do not mind—but you will not relitigate that issue as far as I am concerned.
Crimes Amendment Bill (No 6) — Instruction to CommitteeCWH 
Crimes Amendment Bill (No 6) — Instruction to CommitteeCWH 
[Volume:609;Page:7081] 
Crimes Amendment Bill (No 6) 
Instruction to CommitteeCWH 
Hon MARK BURTON (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 I move  
That it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the Crimes Amendment Bill (No 6) that it take the bill part by part and consider any schedules as one question. 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 81 
Labour 52; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 8; United Future 8. 
Noes 34 
New Zealand National 26; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Motion agreed to.
Mallard Trevor: Points of Order — Questions for Oral Answer—Deferment 
Mallard Trevor: Points of Order — Questions for Oral Answer—Deferment 
[Volume:625;Page:20524] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Minister of Education) 
: 
 I withdraw and apologise. I should have said that the member appointed someone paid him—
Ryall Tony: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Ryall Tony: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:621;Page:16312] 
8.  
Hon TONY RYALL (National—Bay Of Plenty) 
 to the  
Minister of Police 
: Do the police despatch taxis in response to 111 calls; if so in what circumstances? 
Hon GEORGE HAWKINS (Minister of Police) 
: 
 I am advised that when a 111 call is received a decision is made as to whether it requires a police response. If a police response is not required police will often work with the caller to provide appropriate assistance. 
Hon Tony Ryall 
: What reports has the Minister asked for on the recent Piha 111 matter and in the meantime what action has he taken or does he intend to take in light of the public concerns on this matter and the police inquiry? 
Hon GEORGE HAWKINS 
: The Commissioner of Police advised me that the initial response was inappropriate. The police should have sent a patrol. Judgment exercised by some staff is to be the subject of disciplinary action. Later today a news conference will take place outlining the details of a police response and disciplinary issues. 
Hon Tony Ryall 
: Why did the police decide to send a taxi instead of a patrol car in the Piha 111 matter? 
Hon GEORGE HAWKINS 
: I am informed that there were patrol cars there and that it is not a resource issue. In the news conference later this afternoon those matters will be canvassed but I am not getting involved in police disciplinary matters. 
Ron Mark 
: Is it Government policy to have traffic units deployed on revenue-gathering duties and ignoring police dispatchers’ request for units to respond to priority one calls whilst their overstretched general-duties and I cars bust their gut to respond not only to those calls but to traffic accidents that the traffic patrol units refuse to attend? If it is not Government policy what will he the Minister do to redress this ridiculous situation? 
Hon GEORGE HAWKINS 
: In the Piha case there were vehicles and patrols available to attend it and that member ought to come up with specifics rather than generalisations that are not correct. 
Hon Tony Ryall 
: Do women in distress need to be screaming before police will come to protect them rather than send a taxi? 
Hon GEORGE HAWKINS 
: The police actually act on information they have. They make judgment calls. This time they made a very poor judgment call.
Business of Select Committees — Reporting Dates Membership 
Business of Select Committees — Reporting Dates Membership 
[Volume:606;Page:3552] 
Business of Select Committees 
Reporting Dates 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I seek leave for the time by which the Health Committee must finally report the Smoke-free Environments (Enhanced Protection) Amendment Bill to be extended to 14 March 2003 for the time by which the Local Government and Environment Committee must finally report the Masterton Trust Lands Bill to be extended to 21 March 2003 and for the time by which the Education and Science Committee must finally report the 2001-02 financial review of the Teacher Registration Board to be extended to 12 May 2003. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course being followed? There appears to be none.  
Membership 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I seek leave for Sue Bradford to be a member of the Commerce Committee for the purposes of its consideration of the Consumer Credit Bill but without the right to vote on any question before the committee. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course being followed? There appears to be none.
Yates Dianne: Visiting Forces Bill — Second Reading 
Yates Dianne: Visiting Forces Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:617;Page:12821] 
DIANNE YATES (Labour—Hamilton East) 
: 
 I thank those who have spoken already in support of the Visiting Forces Bill. Obviously it has taken a considerable time to come to the House but it does mean that New Zealand’s law on visiting forces is consistent with other laws and we are now up to date. It is pleasing to see agreement across the House on this bill and I will not delay its passage any further.
Dunne Peter: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
Dunne Peter: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:613;Page:9968] 
Hon PETER DUNNE (Leader—United Future) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Why is it out of order?