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Vote: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16036. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes57New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Motion agreed to.
Roy Eric: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16036. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): No it is quite OK. You are allowed to address the Chair.GRANT ROBERTSON: After a member has already been called?The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): Yes. You are allowed to acknowledge the Chair.
Robertson Grant: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson Grant: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16036. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]GRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I believe that when someone moves a closure motion all that they are allowed to say is: “I move that the question be now put.” After you called John Hayes he said: “Mr Chair I move that the question be now put.” I do not think that that is in the Standing Orders.
Hayes John: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes John: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16036. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOHN HAYES (National—Wairarapa): I moveThat the question be now put.
Dean Jacqui: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDean Jacqui: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16035. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki): I moveThat the question be now put.
Ngaro Alfred: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNgaro Alfred: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16034. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]ALFRED NGARO (National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Goldsmith Paul: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGoldsmith Paul: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16031. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL GOLDSMITH (National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Vote: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16022. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes56New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1.Motion agreed to.Clause 1 agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 413 in the name of the Hon Todd McClay to clause 2 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.Clause 2 as amended agreed to.Bill to be reported with amendment presently.
Ross Jami-Lee: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16022. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Bennett David: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBennett David: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16021. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East): I moveThat the question be now put.
Tisch Lindsay: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16016. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Is this a point of order?Dr David Clark: Sorry Mr Chair. I thought we were at the title and commencement—The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): No we are on the schedules—[Interruption] No no you cannot. The schedules are included in the part. We are just voting on the schedules.Schedule 2agreed to.
Vote: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16012. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes56New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 413 in the name of the Hon Todd McClay to Part 2 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Ross Jami-Lee: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16012. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Roy Eric: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16003. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): This debate is on clauses 4 to 107 and schedules 1 and 2.
Roy Eric: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16001. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy): I will give Andrew Little a go at debating the topic.
Bennett David: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBennett David: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16001. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East): I moveThat the question be now put.
Barry Maggie: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBarry Maggie: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:16000. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore): I moveThat the question be now put.
Goldsmith Paul: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGoldsmith Paul: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15995. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL GOLDSMITH (National): I am very pleased to be taking this call. I understand we are focusing on Part 1 of the Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill—this part being discussed relates to the annual rates of income tax—not on Part 2. It is a very important part. It is not a huge part of this bill but it harks back to the single-greatest contribution in the tax area made by this Government. The switch of keeping the income tax rates lower and increasing GST a little bit encourages people to work hard overall in a tax-neutral way in order to reignite the economy in New Zealand by having a tax system that is not hiking tax rates but is ensuring that existing tax bases are applied fairly. Ultimately building a more competitive and productive economy is one of National’s key priorities. Only by lifting our economic performance can we create the jobs boost incomes improve the living standards and provide the world-class public services that Kiwi families need.This bill is the latest piece of tax legislation aimed at making the tax system fairer and simpler and strengthening the economy. An important aspect of fairness in the tax system is that taxpayers must be able to understand and comply with the rules and the necessary tax rules must be cohesive fair and applied consistently. Part 1 of thislegislation here is about the annual rates of income tax for 2013. Only the prudent management of the economy and Government spending by this Government is getting us back to surplus in this year which many people did not believe this Government would achieve. But we will be back in surplus notwithstanding the fact that we have been able to keep the tax rates at relatively low levels and we all aspire to have them lower in the future. Having a strong stable economy run by a sound and sensible Government is the way to go and on that basis I think that this is an excellent piece of legislation.
Carter David: Points of Order — Commerce (Cartels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill—ProcedureText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Points of Order — Commerce (Cartels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill—Procedure[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15991. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Leave is so sought. Is there any objection? There is.
Cosgrove Clayton: Points of Order — Commerce (Cartels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill—ProcedureText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCosgrove Clayton: Points of Order — Commerce (Cartels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill—Procedure[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15991. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. In light of matters raised by the Hon Shane Jones I seek leave for the Commerce (Cartels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill to be moved to Government order of the day No. 1 and read forthwith.
Walker Holly: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWalker Holly: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15990. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]HOLLY WALKER (Green): My question is to the Minister for Tertiary Education Skills and Employment—[Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order! I invite the member to start the question again.
Simpson Scott: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15986. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]10.SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel) to theMinister of Justice: What progress has been made on criminal history sharing for employment vetting between Australia and New Zealand?Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Justice): The Attorney-General of Australia Senator George Brandis QC and I have jointly announced the expansion of the successful pilot on sharing criminal history information for the purposes of employment vetting. This means that in future it will be easier for eligible employers in Australia and New Zealand to be able to check criminal backgrounds of potential employees particularly where they are working with children or vulnerable people. With the ease of travel between our two countries it is vital to have systems in place to protect our communities from people who may pose such a risk. The expansion of the trial means all states of Australia will in future participate in the scheme.Scott Simpson: How do employers access that information?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Eligible organisations are those approved by the police and registered to use the vetting service. They need to establish that their staff care for children older people people with special needs or other vulnerable persons. Applications will be made by the approved agency to the police with the consent of the potential employee for their criminal history. There are approximately 8000 approved agencies in New Zealand such as the Teachers Council schools universities the Ministry of Health and Immigration New Zealand. This is an important scheme to support the free movement of people between two countries while continuing to reduce harm from criminal activity.Andrew Little: What provision has been made in the arrangements with Australia to safeguard the rights of New Zealanders both here and in Australia under the Criminal Records (Clean Slate) Act 2004?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: The clean slate law will apply to potential employees’ histories so that people will be protected.
Heatley Phil: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHeatley Phil: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15983. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]7.Hon PHIL HEATLEY (National—Whangarei) to theMinister for Social Development: What reports has she received about the support the Government is providing to grandparents and other family members raising children?Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development): Last year I announced that the Government was providing new financial support to grandparents and wider family members raising children whose parents cannot look after them. I am very pleased to say that I have received a report that shows that nearly 6000 children are already benefiting from the new payments which are worth almost $3 million. One of the payments—the start of the year payment worth up to $550—provides a bit of extra help for items like school uniforms and other costs at the beginning of a school year.Hon Phil Heatley: What other support can these carers access?Hon PAULA BENNETT: Family caregivers do an amazing job by taking on these children and providing them with stability and care which have often been lacking in their lives. It can be expensive to take on a child at first so in addition to the start of the year payment carers receiving the unsupported child’s benefit or orphans benefit can also get a one-off grant of $350 when they first take the child into their home.Hon Phil Heatley: Why is it important to support grandparents and other relatives raising children?Hon PAULA BENNETT: Around 12400 children some of whom have been neglected or abused by their parents are cared for by grandparents and wider family members. These children often need more help than most to reach their potential. I would also like to add that nominations for the start-up payment for the beginning of the year close at the end of the month so if members would like to let any constituents know if they are eligible to apply we would welcome receiving applications from them.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15983. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: The problem on this occasion is that there is a conversation going across both sides of the House. If both members could cease we could then hear the question from the Hon Phil Heatley.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15983. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! I am going to have to—[Interruption] Order! We need a more sensible and rational approach to announcing an election date. Can we have question No. 7 from the Hon Phil Heatley please.Hon PHIL HEATLEY: Thank you Mr Speaker. My question is to the Minister for Social Development—Hon John Banks: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. It would be helpful if you could tell Robertson and his crowd over there to shut up because I cannot hear the member Phil Heatley behind me.
Heatley Phil: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHeatley Phil: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15983. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon PHIL HEATLEY (National—Whangarei): My question is to the Minister for Social Development and asks what reports has she received about the support the Government is providing to grandparents—[Interruption]
Macindoe Tim: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15981. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]5.TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West) to theMinister of Education: What recent announcement has she made on the increase in students achieving NCEA level 2?Hon HEKIA PARATA (Minister of Education): Yesterday I was pleased to announce the provisional results for 2013 and that the number of students leaving school with a National Certificate of Educational Achievement (NCEA) level 2 qualification has seen a significant lift across the board in 2013. We had a 2.5 percent overall increase in the number of students leaving school with at least NCEA level 2. That is an increase of over 10 percentage points since 2008. What does this mean in real terms? Every year we have around 60000 students leaving school. In 2009 just over 39000 left school with NCEA level 2. Last year it was 46000. In this last year this was an increase of around 1500 school-leavers which is the equivalent for instance of the total population of Bulls Coromandel or Kawakawa or the combined rolls of McAuley High School Henderson High School and Heretaunga College. Those students their teachers and school-leavers deserve to be congratulated on achieving these outstanding results.Tim Macindoe: What was the lift in achievement for Māori and Pasifika students?Hon HEKIA PARATA: Just this year we have seen a lift of 4 percentage points and 7 percentage points amongst Māori and Pasifika students respectively. That means 1000 more Māori and Pasifika students left school with NCEA level 2 in 2013. In 2008 about half of our Pasifika students were getting NCEA level 2 and now almost three-quarters are leaving school with NCEA level 2. In 2008 less than half of our Māori students were getting NCEA level 2 and now it is getting closer to two-thirds. We have maintained the growth in achievement and improved it year on year. What teachers do in the classroom makes a difference and this Government is backing them to win.Tim Macindoe: What approach is the Government taking to lift achievement for all students?Hon HEKIA PARATA: Over the last 5 years we have focused on collecting data so we can see where we need to target resources. Vote Education has gone up to its highest ever at $9.7 billion. We have been able to identify which students need what kind of support through programmes such as Youth Guarantee trades academies Achievement 2013-17 Positive Behaviour for Learning Pasifika Power Up and then to work with particular schools and their communities. We are focused on 85 percent of all 18-year-olds achieving NCEA level 2 or an equivalent in 2017. Although these results are great it is important that now together with parents schools and local communities we all keep up this momentum so that even more young people can achieve educational success.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15980. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] Order! That is enough of an explanation. I have said that leave will be put for that purpose. Is there any objection to that information being tabled? There is.
Cunliffe David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCunliffe David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15980. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Leader of the Opposition): The statistics from Statistics New Zealand Infoshare indicate that the lowest level of trans-Tasman migration—
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15980. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I am unaware of the last occasion that the member refers to. In seeking to table documentation if it is some obscure documentation that may well have been published but is not easy for members to find then I think there are occasions when such information is worth putting to the House. I want to also comment on the point raised by Grant Robertson. There will be on occasions an opportunity to table a document when it has become the source of an argument between various politicians. But at most question times one side will lead with one argument and the other side will lead with an alternative argument. That is the nature of political debate. To move this matter forward on this particular occasion I will allow the member to seek his leave and the House will decide. The Hon David Cunliffe is seeking to table an extended list of statistics. Could he just briefly summarise exactly what he is seeking to table?
Cunliffe David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCunliffe David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15980. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Leader of the Opposition): Two points for your consideration Mr Speaker. The first is whether there is a difference in your ruling between a document that has previously been published and something that is in the public domain—the two being different. In this case it is a data series that although contained on the website has had to be extracted for presentation to the House. That is the first question. Secondly I just draw your attention to the fact that you have previously allowed the Prime Minister to table documentary evidence to substantiate an exchange of statistics between us and I just seek the opportunity to do the same in reverse.
Brownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15980. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): Mr Speaker I think you are on the right track with the way in which you have described these documents and have therefore taken the approach that has become common in the House over the last 5 years or so. If every time the Prime Minister disagrees with Mr Cunliffe it was seen as not taking him at his word or anything else then there would be no political debate. I think that there is a crossover here between two things. One is that the ability to disagree should prevail as opposed to having to agree for fear of hurt feelings on the part of the Hon David Cunliffe.
Robertson Grant: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson Grant: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15980. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]GRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Earlier in this sitting session you gave a ruling that enabled members of the House to table a document where particularly their word had been questioned. Twice today we have seen—both with Dr Russel Norman and earlier on with David Cunliffe—the Prime Minister questioning the word of a member. The one way of dealing with that is for the member to be able to table a document that shows that what they were saying was true. You did say that there was going to be some licence to do that. Just because an item is in the public arena it does not mean that it does not meet your test.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15980. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! Again—[Interruption] Order! The member again is attempting to abuse the privilege of seeking to table a document. New Zealand statistics are freely available. The point of tabling a document is not to further debate the issue; it is a matter of adding information that is valuable to members of the House.
Cunliffe David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCunliffe David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15980. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Leader of the Opposition): I seek leave to table a data series from the Statistics New Zealand Infoshare series proving that—
Banks John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBanks John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15976. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon JOHN BANKS (Leader—ACT): A point of clarification. If we follow this track to its conclusion does this mean that this House is open to legal redress from parties outside the House and is not the simple remedy for Mr Jones to take the document out to the steps of Parliament and distribute it to the press if that is what he believes?Mr SPEAKER: Order! The first part of the question asked by the member—if Parliament so moves today then it itself is protected by parliamentary privilege. The motion isThat this House order the publication of the document tabled in the House by the Hon Shane Jones on Thursday 13 February 2014. Those of that opinion will say Aye to the contrary No. The Ayes have it. It will be published.Motion agreed to.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15976. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The wording that I wish is That this House direct the Clerk of the House to publish the document in question—not authorise it to direct that she do so.Mr SPEAKER: Does not that then fit with the wording that I put here—that the House order the publication of the document?Hon John Banks: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: Speaking to the point of order—and then I think we have had enough discussion. The House knows the seriousness of the situation. I will put the motion but before that I will hear from the Hon John Banks.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15976. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: My understanding is that if the House is prepared to accept the motion then that is indeed the case.
Jones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeJones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15976. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon SHANE JONES (Labour): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I want you to be utterly explicit that in passing this motion the doctrine of absolute privilege will now cover that letter.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15975. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I have just sought some advice from the Clerk and the following points before I put the motion may be relevant. The allegations contained in the letter are potentially actionable and run the risk of being seen to in effect repeat statements made in the House by the member last Wednesday. This does have a chilling effect. Such a matter might usefully be considered by the Privileges Committee. However the motion I think now modified is That the House order the publication of the document.
Mallard Trevor: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15975. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South): The reason that I gave some advice to the member moving the motion to make it clear that it was a direction was that an authorisation would in fact still leave the Clerk with a discretion whether or not to make it available. My objective in suggesting that the word “direct’ be used is to make sure that the Clerk of the House is not herself subject to legal action.
Brownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15975. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): It is more of a point of order in fact. No disrespect to Mr Peters. I know what he is trying to achieve but I do not think that Parliament directs the Clerk. I think what happens is that Parliament authorises the publication and I think that would be a far better set of words in the motion. So I do not want to amend the motion. The member might like to consider putting it again. It is slightly semantic. Rather than us directing Parliament would be choosing to authorise publication.Hon Trevor Mallard: Can I speak to that?Mr SPEAKER: This is a very important matter that this House gets right so I am prepared to accept the Hon Trevor Mallard.
Peters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePeters Winston: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15975. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First): I so move—that the House give approval for the publication.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought now for a letter that was tabled here last Thursday which at this stage has not been published—[Interruption] Yes I am just making sure that members understand. The leave is sought first for this motion to be moved. Is there any objection to that leave? There is not.Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: I move That the House give permission for the Clerk of the House to publish to the media and outside interests—Hon Trevor Mallard: To direct—Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: Pardon?Hon Trevor Mallard: “Direct” not “permission”.Mr SPEAKER: Yes. Can I just—[Interruption] “Authorise”.Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: Well I will amend it slightly. I move That the House direct the Clerk of the House to distribute the document tabled in the name of Shane Jones about which this discussion—Mr SPEAKER: The question is that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye—[Interruption] Are you just speaking Mr Brownlee before I put the motion?
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15974. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: This is an important issue and both members raised this point because it has long-term ramifications. Can I refer members to Speaker’s ruling 146/1 and there members will note that as Speaker Wilson ruled in 2007 the general presumption is that documents tabled by leave will be made available on request the House having accepted them but it needs to be clearly understood that it is only where a document is published under the authority of the House that it is protected by parliamentary privilege in respect of any subsequent publication. The tabling of a document does not mean that the House has ordered or authorised the publication of that document. It simply allows for the information contained in the document to be conveyed to members of the House.Publication of the document to persons outside the House is done at the risk of the person who publishes it. In that respect “published” means delivering showing or disclosing it to any other person. Where there is risk of legal liability arising from publication the Clerk will permit members to have access to the copy provided to her but will not disclose it to anyone else. All requests are referred to the member who tabled the document. While this is not a regular occurrence the Clerk does have to be mindful of possible legal risk. The Clerk has informed me of her decision not to publicly release the document. The matter is therefore one where the member must take responsibility for the release of the document. It will be published by the Clerk only if the House were to order or authorise its publication.
Brownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15974. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): I think the Hon Shane Jones raises a very interesting point which is probably worth some discussion away from the floor of the House today. The point I think he makes is that if a member is tabling something as evidence of a comment that was made under the protection of the House for the rest of the House to be able to verify the reason for the utterance but that apparently cannot be tabled because it might lead to officers of the Parliament in fact being pursued through the courts then that is an unreasonable block on the freedoms that Parliament claims and that you on our behalf claim of the Crown. So I would suggest that this is a matter that is probably not going to be dealt with now but does need some discussion fairly urgently perhaps by the Standing Orders Committee in the next very short while.
Jones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeJones Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15974. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon SHANE JONES (Labour): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek your forbearance. Last week I tabled a letter to the chairman of the Commerce Commission and after some confusion it was accepted by the House that the letter could be tabled. Later on in the afternoon the Clerk of the House as is her prerogative identified that the letter could not be released by her for fear of becoming embroiled in defamation proceedings. I seek some direction from you given that our ability to function effectively as parliamentarians traceable back to the Bill of Rights 1688 incorporated into British statutory law in 1689—I do not want to overstate the fact but it is a key feature of being a parliamentarian.The final point I would say is that although there is the prospect of defamation proceedings in the mind of the Clerk there is also the ability of parliamentarians to fulfil their obligations on behalf of the broader public interest. I have taken the time to study earlier pronouncements on the matter and indeed not unlike Gerry Brownlee I have come armed withErskine May. But the most important thing is that I feel this has a chilling effect on the ability of parliamentarians to speak truth in the face of adversity. If we do not back down to this type of threatening behaviour I fear it will be no different from the Mongrel Mob mayhem on Manchester Street.
Cunliffe David: Motions — Cricket Triple Century—Brendon McCullumText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCunliffe David: Motions — Cricket Triple Century—Brendon McCullum[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15971. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Leader of the Opposition): I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without debate to congratulate Brendon McCullum on his achievements today.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is none.Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE: I moveThat this House congratulate Brendon McCullum on being the first New Zealander to score a triple century in a test match. Well done Brendon and the Black Caps.Motion agreed to.
Carter David: Visitors — Republic of Korea—Speaker National AssemblyText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Visitors — Republic of Korea—Speaker National Assembly[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15971. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Honourable members I have much pleasure in informing the House that a delegation from the National Assembly of the Republic of Korea led by His Excellency Speaker Kang Chang-hee is in the precincts of the Chamber. I am sure that members would wish that he be accorded a seat to the left of the Chair and that the delegation in the Speaker’s gallery be welcomed.His Excellency Kang Chang-hee accompanied by the Assistant Speaker Lindsay Tisch entered the Chamber and took a seat on the left of the Chair.
Business StatementText is subject to correctionBusiness Statement[Sitting date: 20 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:1. Text is subject to correction.]Thursday 20 February 2014Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.Business StatementHon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House): Next week the House is in a 1-week adjournment. When the House resumes on Tuesday 4 March the Government will look to progress the Appropriation (2012/13 Financial Review) Bill the Electoral Amendment Bill and a number of other bills on the Order Paper.
Points of Order — Commerce (Cartels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill—ProcedureText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePoints of Order — Commerce (Cartels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill—Procedure[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15991. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Points of OrderCommerce (Cartels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill—ProcedureHon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. In light of matters raised by the Hon Shane Jones I seek leave for the Commerce (Cartels and Other Matters) Amendment Bill to be moved to Government order of the day No. 1 and read forthwith.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is so sought. Is there any objection? There is.
Motions — Cricket Triple Century—Brendon McCullumText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMotions — Cricket Triple Century—Brendon McCullum[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15971. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MotionsCricket Triple Century—Brendon McCullumHon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Leader of the Opposition): I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without debate to congratulate Brendon McCullum on his achievements today.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is none.Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE: I moveThat this House congratulate Brendon McCullum on being the first New Zealander to score a triple century in a test match. Well done Brendon and the Black Caps.Motion agreed to.
Visitors — Republic of Korea—Speaker National AssemblyText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVisitors — Republic of Korea—Speaker National Assembly[Sitting date: 18 February 2014. Volume:696;Page:15971. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Tuesday 18 February 2014Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.VisitorsRepublic of Korea—Speaker National AssemblyMr SPEAKER: Honourable members I have much pleasure in informing the House that a delegation from the National Assembly of the Republic of Korea led by His Excellency Speaker Kang Chang-hee is in the precincts of the Chamber. I am sure that members would wish that he be accorded a seat to the left of the Chair and that the delegation in the Speaker’s gallery be welcomed.His Excellency Kang Chang-hee accompanied by the Assistant Speaker Lindsay Tisch entered the Chamber and took a seat on the left of the Chair.
Roy Eric: Victims’ Orders Against Violent Offenders Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Victims’ Orders Against Violent Offenders Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 06 March 2014. Volume:696;Page:16460. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am sorry to interrupt the member but the time has come for the House to rise.Debate interrupted.
Mitchell Mark: Victims’ Orders Against Violent Offenders Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMitchell Mark: Victims’ Orders Against Violent Offenders Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 06 March 2014. Volume:696;Page:16460. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney): I am very pleased to take a call on this bill the Victims’ Orders Against Violent Offenders Bill. I would like to acknowledge the chair of the Law and Order Committee Jacqui Dean. The work that was done in the select committee was very much a team exercise but after hearing Mr Goff you would think it was an individual sport. I want to acknowledge my colleagues from the National Party the Labour Party the Greens and New Zealand First all of whom worked very hard on this bill.Jacqui Dean referred to a young woman who appeared in front of our select committee on Wednesday in relation to another matter. She had been subjected to a very serious assault in a domestic violence situation.
Sabin Mike: Victims of Crime Reform Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSabin Mike: Victims of Crime Reform Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 06 March 2014. Volume:696;Page:16450. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MIKE SABIN (National—Northland): Well that was a very good speech by Jan Logie about everything that the Victims of Crime Reform Bill is not actually about. Every member of this House—in fact every person in New Zealand I am sure—would agree that everyone deserves to be able to live safely in the community. The reality is that some people commit crime perpetuate crime against innocent members of society and this bill is very much about ensuring that the State rightfully acknowledges the fact that through no fault of their own innocent New Zealand citizens have become victimsof crime. We often talk about putting victims at the heart of the justice system. I prefer to think of it as the State acknowledging that those citizens need support because they have been offended against through no fault of their own by members of society who—for some reason often lost to themselves and others—believe that the rules do not apply to them.I just want to finish the contribution because this has already been spoken to at length but one thing that is very important about this particular bill is the way in which it deals with victim impact statements and the ability for a victim of crime to express what that crime has meant to them and the way that crime has impacted on their life. This gives them the opportunity in an unedited and forthright manner to be able to demonstrate that to whom they see fit as part of that process. If we are talking about the State supporting people to move through that very very difficult passage in their life then this part of the bill goes absolutely to the heart of supporting victims of crime.Crime is at a 33-year low in this country. If we want to talk about how best to support victims it is to ensure that they are not victims in the first place and that is something that this Government takes great pride in. If the Green Party members who stand here and protest so avidly about what this Government is doing or not doing actually took time to support the bills that this Government is passing to prevent crime then maybe crime would be lower than 33 percent. But we know that they will not support anything like that because we know that they are actually pro-criminal while trying to talk about the fact that they are actually supporting victims. They cannot have it both ways.Bill read a second time.
Vote: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — Third Reading[Sitting date: 06 March 2014. Volume:696;Page:16449. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) be read a third time.Ayes61New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes59New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7;Māori Party 2; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a third time.
Macindoe Tim: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — Third Reading[Sitting date: 06 March 2014. Volume:696;Page:16449. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West): Contrary to the assertion of Mr Clendon the Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) is not dreadful but the quality of the contributions to this debate from members opposite certainly has been. This is not an immoral measure; this is a responsible and fair one. We have been far from relying on rhetoric and ideology on this side as members opposite have suggested. That has entirely characterised the contributions from those members and it is clear that they are burying their heads in the sand. This bill is fair to all parties. This bill is in the interests of the country definitely in the interests of the New Zealand taxpayer and ultimately in the interests of the students themselves. I support this bill.
Roy Eric: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 3) — Third Reading[Sitting date: 06 March 2014. Volume:696;Page:16447. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Andrew Little—five minutes.