Ross Jami-LeeJAMI-LEE ROSS (National—Botany): Can I say thanks to the House for considering this member's bill. Thanks to my side the National Party MPs for supporting this and also to David Seymour. I asked David Seymour and Shane Reti particularly to speak on this bill because they brought their experience as local MPs who have had constituents come to them as have I about this particular issue. There are real and genuine concerns around this activity in their electorates and I thank them for their contributions. Can I thank Stuart Nash for his words and his support as well. I discussed this with Stuart Nash some weeks ago. I think Stuart Nash made some comments about a pragmatic solution to an issue and I view this bill as exactly that. It is taking an issue that councils around the country are dealing with at the moment—and it is not just Auckland; there are councils up and down the country that have dealt with this issue but it is predominantly in Auckland—but they are dealing with it in a way that is not effective a way where they have to take prosecutions clog up the courts' time to deal with an issue and go through a system that can take many many weeks as well.The Police have asked for a tool to be able to deal with it. Police have a strategy or a way in which they work where they believe in prevention first. Prevention first—that is very much their approach to this issue. Quite frankly they do not care that much about someone on the side of the road washing a windscreen but they do care about the other issues that can escalate out of that. I want to read an extract from a letter the Police wrote to the Auckland Council about this: The window washing of vehicles stopped at traffic lights and intersections particularly key intersections in central and south Auckland has become a significant issue for motorists and a constant source of complaint. The practice breaches the council's public safety and nuisance by-law and is fundamentally unsafe intimidating and causes a nuisance to drivers and obstruction to traffic."When Catherine Delahunty says this is a load of rubbish I would like her to say that to the parents of the schoolchildren in Greenlane who were attacked by window washers. I do not think they believe this is a load of rubbish. I would like her to say that to the police constables and inspectors and sergeants who view on a regular basis gang activity in this area where they say that window washing and the problems associated with it—including disorder vehicle crime assaults and wilful damage and these related activities—are distressing to police. That is what this is about. It is about dealing with the problem before it becomes a bigger issue and I know that councils and police are concerned that we do have these wider issues taking place.I accept that the wording of the bill has been raised a couple of times—Mr O'Rourke raised the wording. I have taken the wording of the Auckland Council by-law and inserted it into the bill. If the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee can come up with better wording then I am all for that. I look forward to that committee hearing submissions on the bill and coming up with better wording if there is better wording out there.I do want to say to Mr O'Rourke though when he says this is unnecessary that there will be I suspect many many people making submissions on this who will say that having an effective tool for the police is necessary. But he asked the question: is this my best contribution? I am happy to say no it is not my best contribution to criminal justice; my best contribution to criminal justice is being part of a National-led Government that is seeing more police on the streets that has done more to support victims of crime that has done more to reform bail laws and that has done more to tackle gangs. That is my best contribution to criminal justice: being part of a wider team that is doing a lot of good work.As a local electorate MP as someone who was elected by 70000 people to serve them as their representative when they come to me with an issue that they are concerned about and when our local police have constantly raised this with me as a local MP I have a method where I can attempt to support them. A member's bill is a way to do that and that is why I have brought this forward. Melissa Lee said: "The council and the police are backing the great work of Mr Ross." Actually Melissa you are a bit wrong; I am supporting the great work that the local council and the police are doing. I think we should be tackling this and giving police the tool box.I am disappointed New Zealand First is not supporting this. It is supposed to be—it views itself as the party of law and order—Hon Member: Out of touch.JAMI-LEE ROSS: No I do not think it is out of touch. I think it is just opposing it for the sake of opposing it. But there is real concern out there and if we can help police and help councils we should be doing that. Thank you to the House for its consideration."