Yates Dianne: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Yates Dianne: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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11.  
DIANNE YATES (Labour—Hamilton East) 
 to the  
Associate Minister for Arts Culture and Heritage 
: What is the Government doing to support New Zealand’s creative industries? 
Hon JUDITH TIZARD (Associate Minister for Arts Culture and Heritage) 
: 
 Among a number of other initiatives this Government supports the Pathways to Arts and Cultural Employment programme which has been enormously successful. Since it was introduced it has helped nearly 3000 New Zealanders to find work. It recognises that creative industries are important to New Zealanders as we have a world-leading arts and culture industry providing over 50000 jobs and representing 2.8 percent of our GDP. 
Dianne Yates 
: Has the Minister seen any proposals to change the Pathways to Arts and Cultural Employment scheme? 
Hon JUDITH TIZARD 
: Yes I have. I see that the National Party would scrap it because apparently Dr Don Brash does not see any value in creative industries. By saying that National would scrap the Pathways to Arts and Cultural Employment programme he is effectively saying that an entire sector including the film music and television industries is off-limits to job seekers. During these boom times when New Zealand music film and other arts— 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I would have expected you to bring the Minister back into line with the Standing Orders. This Minister has absolutely no responsibility thank goodness for National Party policy so all of the answer is outside the Standing Orders. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: The point of order is valid. Would the Minister please address the question in terms of her responsibility. 
Hon JUDITH TIZARD 
: I am responsible for this programme and I am concerned that there are grossly ill informed attacks upon it and that in these boom times in New Zealand film music and other arts which are at the highest level they have ever been and are returning more jobs and more exports to New Zealand than they have ever done there are threats that the programme will be withdrawn. 
Peter Brown 
: Will the Minister clarify something? As a result of this programme are we likely to see more art such as dunnies that bray like a donkey statues of the Virgin Mary enclosed in a condom or pictures falsified by the Prime Minister—is this programme going to lead to that sort of thing? 
Hon JUDITH TIZARD 
: We have seen an enormous number of young New Zealanders who are trained and talented getting jobs in areas like modelling design tattooing producing clothes—particularly high-fashion clothes—producing films like  
Whale Rider 
 and  
In My Father’s Den 
 producing hit New Zealand music that is being exported like that of Golden Horse and many many other such examples that are returning vast numbers of jobs and profits to New Zealanders. 
Peter Brown 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I think we are well aware of what you might call the good things the programme might deliver but I asked the Minister specifically about these fringe-type art things that New Zealanders—[ 
Interruption 
] 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Would members please be quiet while the member is making his point of order. 
Peter Brown 
: I simply asked the Minister about what one might call fringe-art exhibits that really do upset some New Zealanders. Will this programme lead to more of those? 
Hon JUDITH TIZARD 
: This Government unlike Soviet USSR is not responsible for the output of artists particularly those on the fringe. We are interested in seeing real jobs real exports and real profits to New Zealanders. These projects are designed for artists who want to work and to be paid for what they do. 
Rodney Hide 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I know that it is getting a bit rowdy but Bill English was thrown out for interjecting on a point of order and both the Hon Chris Carter and the Hon David Cunliffe interjected loudly on Mr Peter Brown’s point of order. It was done from the cross benches where he is standing. It was designed to disrupt his point of order. I am sure they will agree that they interrupted on his point of order. I think you should treat them as you treated Bill English. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: All I heard was a level of buzz in the House that was unacceptable. I did not hear specific voices and that is why I asked all members to be quiet. I have ruled on that Mr Hide. I did not hear that; I did ask members to be quiet. 
Rodney Hide 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I heard them loud and clear and saw them. All that you need to do is ask them whether they called out during that point of order and I am sure you will get an answer. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Did the members? 
Hon Chris Carter 
: Yes Madam Speaker. I withdraw and apologise. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: The Minister will leave the House then. 
Hon Chris Carter withdrew from the Chamber. 
Hon Annette King 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. If we are going to apply the rules in the same fashion there was a point much earlier on when you did not know who had interjected and you could not identify the person. It was Richard Prebble. Perhaps he would now like to stand up and own up to interjecting during that point of order and he might like to leave as well. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: The member has a point. It should have been raised at the time but did the member interject when I could not hear? 
Rodney Hide 
: It’s too late. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: It is too late but the member is making the point that if we are— 
Hon Richard Prebble 
: Madam Speaker I thought we were up to David Cunliffe. You have not got to me yet. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Can we move on please. 
Hon David Cunliffe 
: I would like to own up to speaking but not with intent to disrupt so I would be— 
Madam SPEAKER 
: The member can leave as well then please. 
Brent Catchpole 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. Going back to the last answer given by the Minister I ask you to reflect on the answer that she gave in that she gave the name of a non-existent country—a country that no longer exists in fact. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: That is not a valid point of order. 
Rodney Hide 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. My understanding was that David Cunliffe was asked to go for calling out in the point of order. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Yes I did. I said would he please leave. And Maurice Williamson came very close to being asked to leave. At this rate it will be a very quiet House. 
Hon David Cunliffe withdrew from the Chamber. 
Marc Alexander 
: How is the Government supporting New Zealand’s creative industries when it allows one of its Crown-owned companies TVNZ to pay millions of dollars to secure  
Coronation Street 
 after a bidding war with Prime Television when it could be using that money to develop local programming and talent? 
Hon JUDITH TIZARD 
: I am not the Minister of Broadcasting so I am not accountable for the decisions of TVNZ. However I will point out that well over $180 million is being spent by New Zealand On Air for all television production in New Zealand and I look forward to seeing that increased.