Shaw JamesHon JAMES SHAW (Minister of Climate Change): Thank you Mr Speaker. There are times when speaking one's mind ceases to become a moral duty and it becomes a pleasure. Chris Bishop got up a couple of years ago during a members' evening and talked about how there are two types of bills—earnest bills that have no hope of getting any kind of passage in the House but are sort of grand designs trying to solve a large problem; but also very narrowly focused bills that actually might have a chance of making it through the House that are going to actually fix a problem as well—and they generally fall into those two types. This is a third category of bill which is the bill that's designed to generate social media content for the person who's promoting it and other than that for no other purpose whatsoever. It's entirely political it will last no longer than its first reading and it'll be a great pleasure to bury it along with others of its ilk.It is my pleasure to get up and speak on the Public Finance (Don't Give Any Money from the Pockets of Hard-working (White) Mum and Dad Kiwi Mum and Dad Investors (White) Mum and Dad Kiwi Taxpayers to (Brown) Gang Meth Pedlars) Amendment Bill" in the name of "younger Sméagol" over there. I have to say that it is a great pleasure to bury this bill and to ensure that this House wastes no more time on it. "Younger Gollum" over there in his speech when he started off—DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. Order! No no no.Hon JAMES SHAW: I withdraw and—DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. Sit down. I haven't ruled yet. You don't know what I'm going to rule. The member well knows other members are to be referred to by their correct name. Don't do it again.Hon JAMES SHAW: He started his speech over there by saying that the Government had met with gang members in the Beehive! Well how about that? There's actually photographic evidence of the John Key - led National Government led by John Key of the Prime Minister—who was John Key at the time—meeting with gang members in his office which was owned by John Key at the time! There are also photographs of Rob Muldoon—who was not John Key but was also a National Party Prime Minister—also meeting with gang members in his office on the ninth floor of the Beehive at the time. It turns out that these two former National Party Prime Ministers met with gang members in the Beehive! And you know why? It's because they had the wisdom and the experience to know that if you wanted to solve a social problem you actually needed to engage with people who are involved in that problem. That's why they invited them into the Beehive and that has been a tradition that has crossed across this Parliament no matter who has been the Prime Minister no matter which party has been in Government. People have had the wisdom and the experience—unlike that member—to know that if you wanted to solve the problem you needed to engage with the people who are involved in that problem.I hope I pray but I don't hold out much of a candle that eventually that will sink into that member's experience and he'll know that actually if you want to solve that problem you need to get involved with the people who are involved in it because that's where the solutions are: it's involved with the communities and the people who are suffering from the experience that they are suffering from.It is a great pleasure to stand up and speak on behalf of the Green Party and many others in this Parliament and this country and to say that this bill is merely social media content so that that member can try and appeal to a narrow and nasty portion of the community and build his voter base. We will have nothing to do with it and we're not going to vote for this bill."