Stanford Erica; Hipkins ChrisERICA STANFORD (National—East Coast Bays): Thank you Madam Chair. Moving on I want to talk to the Minister or get him to answer some questions around land that is compulsorily acquired that centres are on.There has been a recent occurrence of a centre which is close to the Minister's electorate—a centre called Little Footprints—and there will be others who get caught up in this who have had their land compulsorily acquired by legislation because New Zealand Transport Agency (NZTA) are building a road through where their centre is going to be. So they are forced to move and they want to relocate up the road. Under the current legislation it is our understanding that they will be caught up in the new dual licensing requirements which seems extremely unfair.My Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 183 is requesting that centres who find themselves in this situation are exempt from the legislation if they're moving within a 10-kilometre radius. I'm happy to go back and forward with the Minister on this and reduce that if required. But it is my understanding that they will be caught up in this legislation including the one that's close to his electorate which many of his constituents actually attend—as I found out—who haven't yet had to move but they will have to move in the next few months. They only want to shift up the road—less than a kilometre as it turns out—but under this current legislation will have to apply for a first licence or pre-licence and may in fact miss out if the Minister decides that there are enough services already in that area.So I want to ask the Minister whether or not he will support our SOP. This will go for any early childhood centres in the future who are caught up in this compulsorily acquired land situation where they won't be required to then apply for—they'll just be able to move without having to apply for the two licences in the future. Keen to know if he's heard from anyone else in the same position if he's heard from Little Footprints and whether or not he will support our SOP in this case.Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Education): I am very happy to comment on that. I am aware of the centre in question which is being captured. The land is being acquired for public works associated with the flood protection around the Hutt River. I think it is important that centres that are captured by those circumstances that allowance is made for them.The advice that I've got at the moment is that we don't need further legislative change or amendments to this to be able to do that. We certainly will be looking to ensure that where services are forced to relocate for circumstances beyond their control—so where land is compulsorily acquired for example—they are able to transfer their service to a different site as close as practical to the existing site that they operate on.What we don't want to do is create a system of tradable licences effectively where people can relocate a service well away from where it is at the moment; 10 kilometres if you think about it in the context of the Hutt Valley that's still quite a large area that a service could relocate within. So that service could relocate from Melling to Naenae for example and still be within 10 kilometres—which wouldn't be the intention.So we will certainly be making sure that services—I have made a commitment that I will make sure that services like that have the opportunity to relocate given that it's beyond their control that they have to vacate their current site.