Ryall Tony: Urgent Debates — Report by Secretary of Labour—Immigration Service 
Ryall Tony: Urgent Debates — Report by Secretary of Labour—Immigration Service 
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Hon TONY RYALL (NZ National—Bay of Plenty) 
: 
 That was an interesting contribution from the “United Apologist Party”—that is “Apologist” not “Apostles”. But one could be forgiven for being confused with that fawning idolatry in that speech towards the chief executive of a Government department. I have this message for that member: what we are seeing here today is a template for the way the public service in New Zealand is now behaving. I just ask that member to compare the “agree to lie in unison” scandal with what we are seeing with “corngate” right now. We have public servants saying “Release the information it’s what the Prime Minister said.” It is clear that there is divergence between what is being released and what the Prime Minister said. What do we find? Another cover-up involving the chief executive of the Prime Minister’s department! 
What is more the Leader of the Opposition Bill English today released an email from the chief of the public service—the celibate man who leads our public service—who in his email talks about the public servants commenting during the “corngate” scandal and the memo states that what they are now saying is different from what the official papers said at the time. 
David Benson-Pope 
: Table it! 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: It has been tabled. What is clear is that this report asks more questions than it answers. Why were the Minister’s staff not quizzed? Because the Minister said that the only way for this to be a conspiracy was if she was involved. But what about her staff? Did anyone go and talk to her press secretary who would handle these sorts of inquiries? Did anyone go and talk to her senior private secretary who may have been involved in this? Because the one thing “corngate” shows is that apparently we have senior public servants making decisions as though they were the Ministers themselves. So why was no inquiry made? 
David Benson-Pope 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I apologise for interrupting the speaker but when I asked for the tabling of the document that the member is referring to he claimed it had been tabled. I have just checked with the Clerk and that is not the case. The member is clearly misleading the House—[ 
Interruption 
] 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I warn Mr Peters that there will be silence during points of order. That is the final warning. That is not a point of order. That is a debating point. 
Rodney Hide 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. 
David Benson-Pope 
: Table it Mr Ryall go on then. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I have ruled on the point of order. Is this a new point of order? 
Rodney Hide 
: In this point of order the senior Government whip accused Mr Tony Ryall of misleading Parliament. It is totally unacceptable to use a point of order to accuse another member of breaching privilege. Secondly while I was giving my point of order the senior Government whip interjected on my point of order and I notice that when the Speaker is in the Chair that means an automatic ejection but for the senior Government whip I guess he has immunity under your Chairmanship. 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The member will withdraw and apologise for that last remark. 
Rodney Hide 
: I withdraw and apologise. 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: Madam Speaker— 
Rodney Hide 
: I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I would like my two points of order to be ruled on.