Bayly AndrewHon ANDREW BAYLY (Minister for Small Business and Manufacturing): Thank you Madam Chair. I've got a few points there. It's funny the issue about interpretation of the ram-raiding when I used the word ram-raiding". Obviously the previous Government chose to use its majority to push through the changes; I acknowledge that there were amendments made but it was driven through even though National was very clear and I think ACT were very clear to put a dissenting report in the select committee's report back to the House. But the issue around ram-raiding was one of the Government choosing to use its majority.Now the issue around the urgency and why we're doing this today and why this particular piece of legislation is going through today is the issue of: if we do not do this quickly the Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment is required under legislation set down by the previous Parliament to actually start incurring costs and that is why we need to do this as soon as practicable. That's why this issue is being pushed through and is being done under urgency for that very reason. Also many many businesses are also asking—the 3000-plus businesses that this will affect—me the same thing: please provide clarity around whether we need to incur significant amounts of money to upgrade our IT systems to be able to reflect these changes. As I've said before many of those larger businesses have enterprise resource planning systems that are quite difficult to upgrade. That's why we're giving them the clarity to do it now quickly so people can stop work because the simple fact is as I keep saying this is not about letting people off the hook; the system simply does not work. As the Australian Government's review of their own system has shown on the recent report on it it is not a practical way of getting a better outcome and that's why I have proposed a whole range of additional measures because I do want to make sure that both businesses and the Government make sure they are paying on time.Now you talked about the nudge effect which was raised before. The simple fact: if the Government starts paying on time in 10 working days—and we hit a target of five working days for payment times if people use e-invoicing—that will be the greatest nudge because as members across the way will know the Government accounts for about a third of the economy and that's where the Government in the last term should've first of all directed its own focus. It's actually wrong to be able to say "Look business you go and spend tens of millions of dollars and not worry about our own House." That's what I'm doing. I'm going to be working with the Minister of Finance. We don't need to do legislation; we can do it by the Minister issuing a directive. We do need to consult with the Crown entities; it will take approximately two to three months to do that and we can bring about that change very very quickly. So that is why we're doing it.In terms of the code I've spoken to and I've made a public announcement—Business New Zealand has also publicly acknowledged that they'll bring in a code. We're going to be working on that as a matter of priority but hopefully they are going to take the lead—and of course I'll be involved in that process—following the Government's processes to pay people very promptly and particularly if they use e-invoicing."