Lee MelissaMELISSA LEE (National): Thank you Madam Chair. I'd just like to start off my contribution on Part 2 by perhaps reminding the Minister—I guess he hasn't actually sat in a select committee for a little while so he has forgotten how it actually operates—the select committees do a job and I think the Economic Development Science and Innovation Committee actually does quite well. We work collegially and I see the chair across the room my good friend Jamie Strange who does wonderful work. But the things is that on select committees Opposition members are often outnumbered and often things actually do get past select committee. I'm not suggesting that we oppose the bill—we support the bill—but there are things that need to be done in the committee stage in the House where members can actually ask questions of the Minister as well as make suggestions.I think the Hon Judith Collins actually made a wonderful contribution and actually made suggestions through her Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) where she proposed to extend the plant variety right licence years in clause 18(3)(a) to replace 25 years with 30 years. That actually comes as she said from the recommendations from the industry. When the Minister suggests that well the consultation is over and it's far too late why are we sitting in the committee stage in Parliament if it's too late and what the select committee did is end of story? Why don't we actually just wipe out the committee of the whole House stage and just get on with it? I just don't see the point of a committee of the whole House stage when members should be able to question the Minister and actually make recommendations.The reason why I believe the Hon Judith Collins actually recommended this is that even I not a plant grower not a breeder but an amateur gardener who actually—Chris Bishop: Don't you have green thumbs?MELISSA LEE: Not quite! But I planted my favourite fruit tree in my garden—persimmons. I bought a plant—persimmons. It wasn't actually a small thing or grown from a seed but it takes years before it will fruit. For a plant breeder who might get a new variety it might be from a seed or from a stone. I don't know—they do a cutting and they actually create a new breed or new variety of fruit. Let's say a persimmon. They plant it in the ground and it takes years for it to actually start fruiting. If that is the case if that breeder is to make any money from the new variety of fruit that they've just done 25 years may not be long enough because 10 years might already have been taken up for the tree to actually grow. If that's the case what's the point of them having that right? I think extending it so that they actually do take some benefit from having the right to grow the plant and actually gain the fruit of their labour is something that we need to actually look at.If the industry who actually came to the Hon Judith Collins—and I mean Zespri is one who do amazing work. I mean Zespri is where kiwifruit—I love the gold ones; I'm not quite sure about the green ones. But they actually expanded their reach by going to other countries like South America and Korea where they actually license them to grow it so they can expand the lifecycle of the export market so we're not just reliant on our growing season but also another part of the world that has opposite seasons to take benefit. I think this SOP by Judith Collins on clause 18 is a wonderful example of how we can improve this legislation and I would hope that the Minister would take heed of our suggestion because I think it's a good one.