Bennett DavidHon DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East): That member just has made a lot of assumptions about what people want and believe. The reality is if somebody commits a crime where they're put in imprisonment they lose some rights and one of those rights is the ability to vote. It's actually pretty hard to get to prison in New Zealand. Basically you've got to be a large-scale offender or do a major crime especially under this Government where they let everybody out of jail and make sure that people don't get into jail. They've had a whole programme over the last three years of indicating to courts and to parole officials and other people in the criminal justice system that nobody should be in jail because in their belief jails should not exist. The Minister even said that. He said that nobody should be in jail with the Prime Minister two years ago. They've followed that through. They do not actually believe—Hon Andrew Little: The member's a clown. What a clown.Hon DAVID BENNETT: That is true—that is true. The Minister's disagreeing now with his colleague. He should listen to his colleague the Minister of Corrections who does not want anybody in jail. So that's the fundamental position Labour starts from: they do not believe that jail is an appropriate sanction for people that commit offences and they will do anything to get people out of jail. They will go and make sure that people have to—Hon Willie Jackson: We'll put you in jail.Hon DAVID BENNETT: Is there something wrong Willie?Hon Willie Jackson: No. I'm just saying we'll put you in jail.Hon DAVID BENNETT: Oh yeah. Put me in jail.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe): No. Order! Don't bring me into it. I'm not going to jail any time soon.Hon DAVID BENNETT: Well Trevor probably should go to jail—ha ha! I can't say that.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe): Order! Don't bring the Speaker into the debate.Hon DAVID BENNETT: Thank you Mr Speaker. It's interesting that Willie Jackson wants to put people in jail—just me. But I'd still get to vote under the Labour scheme wouldn't I Willie?Hon Willie Jackson: No—we'll stop it.Hon DAVID BENNETT: Yeah stop it—you'll stop it. See that's the thing. They have all these rules and they can't even control their own political agenda. They're in coalition with the Green Party; they can't work out what's here or there. They go to this political system and they were warned in the third reading that they should stop reflect and retry the committee stage. But no that arrogance that is the Labour Party that you see in them day by day every time they go out and every time where they talk in this House. This was evident again last week. That arrogance led to us here today actually having to do this bill again. When the New Zealand economy needs real change when people are losing jobs when we've got an economy that's teetering on the edge of recession this is a time where Parliament should be working for all New Zealanders. It shouldn't be working in the interests of the Labour Party and their failures and the Green Party as well.I don't see the New Zealand First Party doing much at this time either. Now they're a party that prides themselves on being a law and order party. Maybe that's why those New Zealand First members that wish to retain a seat in Parliament—which is basically all of them because this is the best thing they're ever going to see in life—should probably start talking to David Seymour about options that they could actually parachute on to his list because that's their best chance at the moment of getting back into this Parliament. The reason they're not going to get back in is because they have not delivered for their voters who do not want to see this kind of legislation. They do not want to see prisoners given the right to vote. Darroch Ball: Urgh.Hon DAVID BENNETT: That New Zealand First member over there that is lucky to be in the House after his escapades this afternoon—ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe): Order! Order! Don't even go there. Seriously.Hon DAVID BENNETT: OK. So this bill is one that we should not be debating today. If the Labour Party weren't so arrogant last week they would have reflected on their failure and said Look we got it wrong. Let's try and sort it out then and there. Let's bring that committee stage back and let's do it." But no we have to go through a full process; we have to waste the time of this House when we should be doing genuine things for the sake of this country. The people of this country don't believe that people that have gone to prison should have the entitlement to vote.Hon Willie Jackson: How do you know that?Hon DAVID BENNETT: I can tell you Willie. I win my seat and the reason I win my seat is because I reflect what the people of my electorate want. My people do not want prisoners to have a vote. They don't want that—ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe): Order! The member's time has expired."