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Menéndez March RicardoRICARDO MENÉNDEZ MARCH (Green): Thank you Madam Chair. The Green Party is supportive of this bill. As we mentioned in the second reading we noted that the estimated $70 million in savings while not huge in the context of the broader economy—what we want to understand from the Minister is whether he has an understanding of the distributional impacts of the savings. Who's likely to benefit and just for him to give us some broader analysis on that to understand exactly—you know we talked about the regressive nature of how some of these fees end up affecting consumers. So I guess I'd be keen to get his perspective on how he sees those savings being passed on to those who need it the most.
Bayly AndrewANDREW BAYLY (National—Port Waikato): Thank you. Just in a similar vein I note that Minister David Clark talked about this helping small businesses. As we've canvassed in the first and second reading the economic or financial impacts of this for many small businesses is an absolutely small percentage when compared to the avalanche of costs that the Labour Government has imposed on small businesses particularly around employment practices etc. which we estimate are nearly $3.5 billion. Yet this bill deals with a very small element which is the interchange fee charged on transactions. So in the light of that the purpose statement in Part 1 talks about The purpose of this Act is to promote competition and efficiency in the retail payment system". So clearly this bill—and we'll talk more about it when we get to the subsequent parts of the bill—imposes specific costs or caps the cost that can be charged on the interchange component of a merchant fee. But what I'd like to understand from the Minister is given the intent of this bill—which is to limit cost and be much more prescriptive around who can be a network operator and the rules that must apply—how in the dickens does this bill help promote competition and efficiency in the retail payment system? Because if you're a retail payment operator around the world you'd look at this bill and go "Gee that's a lot of regulation." Albeit we might be bringing ourselves up to other jurisdictions around some parts of the world but I don't see how this is actually going to promote competition and efficiency. Because many people would actually argue this is actually not going to do that—we're going to get a reverse outcome. So I'd be keen to understand the Minister's view on that."
Collins JudithHon JUDITH COLLINS (National—Papakura): Oh that was a very nice speech from the Minister. Thank you. There's a few things and questions I've got for the Minister. So it is designed to obviously cut down the costs for retailers so that they don't have to then pass those on but is it also going to be useful when it comes to things like retailers who now can't access banks during normal working hours when they're busy themselves to actually drop off cash? Because that's one of the issues that I'm getting from retailers. Particularly in Papakura not one bank is now open and so people are having to go to Manukau and I think it's going to be the next stage that the Government is going to look at. Is this bill designed in any way shape or form to be able to be amended during the stages of this particular bill to take that into account Minister?
Salesa JennyHOUSE IN COMMITTEECHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): Members the House is in committee on the Retail Payment System Bill the Crown Pastoral Land Reform Bill and the Maritime Powers Bill. I remind members that they are able to participate remotely. If you're on the Zoom and want to take a call please type call" into the chat. You should also use the chat if you would like to raise a point of order. If we receive a new tabled amendment I'll advise members so that they can refresh the House papers page to see the new amendment. Finally it would be helpful for members to ask multiple questions if they have them of the member in charge during the call. We come now first to the Retail Payment System Bill."
Mallard Trevor; Penk ChrisPROTECTED DISCLOSURES (PROTECTION OF WHISTLEBLOWERS) BILLThird ReadingDebate resumed from 5 May.SPEAKER: The question is that the motion be agreed to—Simon O'Connor: Mr Speaker? Mr Speaker.CHRIS PENK (Senior Whip—National): Point of order Mr Speaker. Thank you Mr Speaker. I believe in the hubbub of members on both sides leaving with some degree of noise that you might not have heard the National Party member calling for that.SPEAKER: I certainly didn't. But I hadn't quite finished putting the question so I'll be very lenient and call Simon O'Connor.
Mallard TrevorOFFICES OF PARLIAMENTAddress to Governor-GeneralSPEAKER: Members on 14 April 2022 the House resolved that a respectful Address be presented to Her Excellency the Governor-General commending to Her Excellency the alterations in the appropriations for the 2021/22 financial year in respect of Vote Audit Vote Ombudsmen and Vote Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment and the estimates of expenses and capital injection for the 2022/23 financial year in respect of those votes. The proposed Address is available on the Table of the House. The question is that the address be adopted.Motion agreed to.Address adopted.
Mallard Trevor; Woodhouse MichaelPoint of Order—Supplementary Questions Prefatory CommentsSPEAKER: I have a point of order from the Hon Michael Woodhouse participating remotely.Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National) (remote): Well thank you Mr Speaker. When you review question time you'll notice that three supplementary questions in question three six and 10 all commenced with prefacing comments Can the Minister confirm" or "Is the Minister aware" followed by what Speaker's ruling 183/7(1) would describe as a question "generally not seeking elucidation but seeking to inject information or propaganda a member wishes to be heard"—and therefore is not permitted. The fact that there were three of them today suggested there may have been a change in that ruling and I wonder if you'd consider and advise the House in the future whether that's the case?SPEAKER: I will certainly consider it. But I'm just checking with the member. It was three six and—Hon Michael Woodhouse: And 10.SPEAKER: —and 10. OK I will have a look at the questions generally and I will look very specifically at the questions that those members ask in the future. Thank you Mr Woodhouse for your advice."
Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers—Point of Order Supplementary Questions Prefatory Comments
Oral Questions — Questions to Ministers—Point of Order Question No. 9
Williams PotoPoint of Order—Question No. 9Hon POTO WILLIAMS (Minister of Police): Point of order? A separate point of order Mr Speaker. This afternoon I was asked by Chris Baillie the number of police that were recruited—David Seymour: Uh oh!Hon POTO WILLIAMS: —in the last four weeks—SPEAKER: Which member made that interjection?David Seymour: That was me sir.SPEAKER: Withdraw and apologise. I mean I've spent quite a lot of work trying to get Ministers to correct answers promptly. We're getting a Minister doing it and we have someone interjecting in a way which is not allowed. Withdraw and apologise.David Seymour: I withdraw and apologise.Hon POTO WILLIAMS: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Baillie asked a question about the number of police that have been recruited in the last four weeks. The number he said was four. The number I have from Police is 27.SPEAKER: Order! Order! No no. I'm not going to allow the member to come in now. The member cannot correct someone else's answers or questions by way of point of order. The member can if she has the facts use them in a supplementary question or there's a number of different approaches that can be taken. That was disorderly. The Minister will stand withdraw and apologise.Hon POTO WILLIAMS: I withdraw and apologise.
Speaker's Statements — Chamber Lobbies and Galleries—Members Mask Exemption
Appointments — Clerk of the House of Representatives
Mallard TrevorSPEAKER'S STATEMENTSChamber Lobbies and Galleries—Members Mask ExemptionSPEAKER: Members I wish to advise the House that I have granted an exemption from wearing a mask to one member after considerable consideration. I would prefer therefore that members do not draw my attention to any member not wearing a mask.
SpeechPETITIONS PAPERS SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLSSPEAKER: No bills have been introduced. Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation.CLERK: Petition of Juliana Carvalho requesting that the House urge the Associate Minister of Immigration to exempt Ignacia Vasquez from the acceptable standards of health policypetition of Iwi Strand requesting that the House urge the Government to grant 2021 resident visas to migrants who lived in New Zealand for more than three years before getting stuck due to the COVID-19 border closure.SPEAKER: Those petitions stand referred to the Petitions Committee. Ministers have delivered papers.CLERK: Report of the proceedings and operation of the Local Government Commission for the year ended 30 June 2021Government responses to the interim report of the Justice Committee on its inquiry into the 2020 general election and referendums and on the report of the Petitions Committee on the petition of Trade Aid and World Vision New Zealand.SPEAKER: Now those papers are published under the authority of the House. Select committee reports have been delivered for presentation.CLERK: Report of the Economic Development Science and Innovation Committee on the petition of Katherine Richreports of the Environment Committee on the petition of Laurance Paterson ONZM and the petition of Steve Abel on behalf of Greenpeacereports of the Governance and Administration Committee on the briefing on long-term insights briefings the Data and Statistics Bill and the report of the Controller and Auditor-General Building a stronger public accountability system for New Zealandersreport of the Justice Committee on the petition of Wendy Bakerreports of the Petitions Committee on the petitions of Lucy Mclean and the petition of Margaret Broughreport of the Regulations Review Committee on the complaint about clause 3.38 of the National Policy Statement on Urban Development 2020.SPEAKER: The bill is set down for second reading. The reports of the Controller and Auditor-General of the Regulations Review Committee and the briefing is set down for consideration.
Mallard TrevorAPPOINTMENTSClerk of the House of RepresentativesSPEAKER: Members I am very pleased to announce that David Wilson has been reappointed as Clerk of the House for a further term of seven years commencing on 6 July 2022. [Applause]
Mallard Trevor; Leary IngridTUESDAY 10 MAY 2022The Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.KARAKIA/PRAYERSSPEAKER: Members this week is both New Zealand Sign Language Week and Rotuman Language Week and for the second reason I've asked Ingrid Leary to say the prayer today.INGRID LEARY (Labour—Taieri): Gagaj 'Ḁitu 'ḁmis 'uḁ'uḁ'ḁkia 'äe 'e reko ḁlalum 'atakoa ne 'ḁmis pō 'e 'otomis mḁuri. 'Ḁmis 'uḁ'uḁ'ḁkia 'äe 'e reko måür 'on Sḁu Hån ta Elisapeti ma far la 'äe la muḁ'ḁkia 'otomis hḁifäegaga 'e terḁni te 'i. La pō la 'ḁmis la a'sokoa 'amnåk tūtū ne Rī Tḁunå' te'is 'e 'ou poto ma 'inea 'e hḁiäf'ḁkiga hḁihanisiga ma huḁg vḁivḁi se 'on lelei ne hanue te'is Niu Sirḁgi. 'Emen.[Lord God we thank you because of all the blessings that we receive in our lives. We thank you for the life of Queen Elizabeth and ask that you guide our discussions today. So that we may carry out the purposes of this House of meeting through your wisdom and knowledge in mutual respect mutual care and humility for the betterment of this nation New Zealand. Amen.]
Thursday 5 May 2022 - Volume 759
VoteDEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is That the amendments recommended by the Pae Ora Legislation Committee by majority be agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 77New Zealand Labour 65; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Amendments agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That the Pae Ora (Healthy Futures) Bill be now read a second time.Ayes 77New Zealand Labour 65; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.Bill read a second time.DEPUTY SPEAKER: This bill is set down for committee stage next sitting day.
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Fisheries Amendment Bill be now read a first time.Ayes 108New Zealand Labour 65; New Zealand National 33; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10.Noes 10ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to. Bill read a first time.DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is That the Fisheries Amendment Bill be considered by the Primary Production Committee. Bill referred to the Primary Production Committee.Instruction to the Primary Production CommitteeHon Dr AYESHA VERRALL (Minister for Food Safety) on behalf of the Minister for Oceans and Fisheries: I move That the Fisheries Amendment Bill be reported to the House by 12 September 2022. Motion agreed to.
Fisheries Amendment Bill — First Reading
Motions — Misuse of Drugs (Classification and Presumption of Supply) Order 2022—Approval
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That pursuant to section 4A of the Misuse of Drugs Act 1975 this House approve the Misuse of Drugs (Classification and Presumption of Supply) Order 2022 made under section 4 of that Act.Ayes 108New Zealand Labour 65; New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Noes 10Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.Order approved.
12. Question No. 12—CorrectionsTONI SEVERIN (ACT) to the Minister of CorrectionsQuestion No. 12—Corrections12. TONI SEVERIN (ACT) to the Minister of Corrections: Is he confident in the performance of Corrections; if so how does he explain a 29 percent increase in prisoner-on-staff assaults from November 2021 to February 2022 despite there being a decrease in sentenced prisoners?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister of Corrections): Yes I support the work of Corrections. While no violence is acceptable the demographic of the prison population has changed over the last few years with higher proportions of gang members higher proportions of people with convictions for violence and increased numbers of people with mental health and drug and alcohol issues. This is having an impact on violence in prison. Corrections now encourage reporting of any inappropriate behaviour regardless of how minor whereas previous Governments did not. It is important that even minor behaviour is no longer ignored. Reducing violence and aggression is a priority and I've told Corrections to undertake priority work to try and turn these numbers around.Toni Severin: What would the Minister say to a Corrections Association of New Zealand spokesperson who said to me The Minister signed off on a five-point action plan on 12 May 2021. To date it has had zero effect and we call it the five-point inaction plan."?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: I'd encourage that person to continue working with their unions and with Corrections to address the issues that we're concerned about. As I said no aggression and violence in prisons is acceptable.Toni Severin: Why has the annual number of reconvictions for individuals serving electronic monitoring sentences for violence charges increased by over 33 percent between 2017 and 2021?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: Mr Speaker can I just clarify. Is she talking about people in prison or not?DEPUTY SPEAKER: Can you—Toni Severin: It's to do with—DEPUTY SPEAKER: No I'll get you to ask the question again and be very clear.Toni Severin: Why has the annual number of reconvictions for individuals serving an electronic monitoring sentence for a violence charge increased by over 33 percent between 2017 and 2021?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: I dispute those numbers. Rehabilitation and reimprisonment rates have actually gone down under this Government. It's a bit unclear really where she was heading because there was so much to that question but you can see in the annual report for Corrections that rehabilitation and reimprisonment rates have actually decreased."
6. Question No. 6—Māori DevelopmentARENA WILLIAMS (Labour—Manurewa) to the Minister for Māori DevelopmentQuestion No. 6—Māori Development6. ARENA WILLIAMS (Labour—Manurewa) to the Minister for Māori Development: What reports has he seen on education and employment outcomes for rangatahi Māori?Hon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister for Māori Development): Tēnā koe Mr Speaker. Kia ora tātou. I've received an update on Pae Aronui delivered through Te Puni Kōkiri. Pae Aronui trials innovative methods to grow the confidence capability and connectedness of rangatahi—of young people. They're some of our most disconnected young people who come from some incredibly tough backgrounds. In fact I've had some of the Opposition members join me to see the success we've had on some of these courses. I'm pleased to share with the House that of the 275 young people in year two 94 percent have successfully completed the programme. So far in year three of the 200 young people engaged 89 have already gained employment and 47 have re-engaged with education. I'm incredibly proud of our young people and providers in our Pae Aronui programmes—a number of them Pākehā providers too and I give a lot of credit to them in terms of putting their hands up and working with this really tough group of people.Arena Williams: How is Pae Aronui different to other targeted youth programmes?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Pae Aronui providers often provide services for whānau as part of the response and have always focused on ongoing pastoral support for the rangatahi concerned. Providers incorporate tikanga Māori; te reo Māori our Māori language; cultural identity; and mātauranga Māori within their Pae Aronui programmes. This reflects community needs and supports a by Māori for Māori tikanga design approach to the programme as a whole. I have seen gang members shift incredibly believe it or not after going through the programme—sometimes not long programmes—but so proud that they have got something to show and something to look forward—Hon Member: How many Willie?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: —to after six to eight weeks. Ask the question and you'll get the answer.Arena Williams: How do programmes like Pae Aronui support rangatahi Māori?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Iwi-based programmes and those taking a whānau-centred and kaupapa Māori approach is how they deliver the programme. They're helping young people connect to their culture which is helping to build resilience and confidence. Māori providers innately take a holistic approach which is helping reach beyond young people to their peers and whānau members as well who are seeing and wanting to emulate their success. Pākehā providers are working in tandem with a lot of Māori in the communities. I salute those Pākehā providers—because that's what it's all about partnership and working together so that we can uplift some of our young people in some of our communities.Hon Nanaia Mahuta: Can the Minister advise what the Opposition might learn from Pae Aronui?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Mr Speaker?DEPUTY SPEAKER: No sit down. That's out of order. The Minister's not responsible for that.
4. Question No. 4—Social Development and EmploymentGLEN BENNETT (Labour—New Plymouth) to the Minister for Social Development and EmploymentQuestion No. 4—Social Development and Employment4. GLEN BENNETT (Labour—New Plymouth) to the Minister for Social Development and Employment: What recent announcements has she made about Care in the Community?Hon CARMEL SEPULONI (Minister for Social Development and Employment): The Care in the Community model has served us well as we've responded to Omicron. Today I announced a further $58.1 million in funding. This funding will support social service providers and community food organisations in the amazing work they've been doing to help people with essential needs. We've worked hard to slow the spread of Omicron and our Government's response is showing to have paid dividends with a drop in demand for support. Now with higher rates of vaccination coverage we're now able to pivot our response and support a broader range of circumstances for people who've been significantly impacted by COVID-19 restrictions and requirements.Glen Bennett: What will today's announcement provide?Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: Today's announcement will provide certainty for many organisations who are supporting our communities as we move through the pandemic. Specifically we will fund support for ongoing and transitional Care in the Community support including a pivot in work for Community Connectors confidence and certainty for community food organisations in the Ministry of Social Development's Food Secure Communities programme and funding to support the wellbeing of disabled people. Glen Bennett: What role will Community Connectors play in the transition plan?Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: As caseloads of self-isolating households reduce Community Connectors will transition towards providing broader support to families impacted by COVID-19. With 500 Community Connectors hosted by 260 providers around the country the Community Connection Service has been a vital link to support the needs of people self-isolating. The funding announced today will allow this mahi to continue while also enabling connectors to help people with broader COVID-related issues. This could include those with high and complex needs who may need support with employment or educational support. We'll continue to keep an eye on the ongoing impacts of COVID-19 in our communities and be ready to pivot the Community Connection Service if required for a further Omicron wave or a new variant.
Luxton Jo; Rurawhe AdrianPROTECTED DISCLOSURES (PROTECTION OF WHISTLEBLOWERS) BILLThird ReadingDebate resumed from 12 April.Jo Luxton: Mr Speaker?CLERK: The Protected Disclosures (Protection of Whistleblowers) Bill interrupted debate on third reading.Jo Luxton: Mr Speaker?DEPUTY SPEAKER: When the House last considered this bill we had completed call No. 7 and we'd come to call No. 8. I call Jo Luxton. [Members cheer]JO LUXTON (Labour—Rangitata): Thank you Mr Speaker. As you can see I am extremely pleased to stand and take a call on this piece of legislation. I have been waiting for my turn to speak on this so many times already.This piece of legislation is a fantastic piece of legislation. It replaces the current law which is now 20 years old does not work as well as it should people don't know how to use the Act and they don't feel safe using it. The biggest hurdles we hear about are with people reporting disclosures because they don't know companies' policies for reporting it and they fear retaliation. I feel that this is extremely true when it comes to perhaps women in workplaces—there's a lot of power play that can happen. Migrants are exploited and they're not confident that the report will go to somebody that will actually do something about it. These are real barriers—real barriers—to the ability of people to be able to report disclosures.I think that this piece of legislation is absolutely crucial to ensure that people feel safe they know they can report disclosures they understand the process and they know that there will be no chance of retaliation. I absolutely commend this bill to the House.DEPUTY SPEAKER: This is a split call. I call Chris Penk—five minutes.
Williams ArenaARENA WILLIAMS (Labour—Manurewa): E kore e taea e te whenu kotahi. Ki te raranga i te whāriki. Kia mōhio tātou ki a tātou. Mā te mahi tahi o ngā whenu mā te mahi tahi o ngā kairaranga ka oti tēnei whāriki. I te otinga me titiro tātou ki nga mea pai ka puta mai ā tōna wā me titiro hoki ki ngā raranga i makere nā te mea he kore anō kei reira.[The tapestry of understanding cannot be woven by one strand alone. Only by the working together of strands and the working together of weavers will such a tapestry be completed. When completed we should look at the beauty of the work and sometimes we also need to look at the dropped stitches as there may be errors there.]It's right to begin my speech with a whakataukī o pōua Kū Tirikatene an advocate for the health of Māori and wellbeing of our people and a thoughtful leader and a proud Cantabrian. The whakataukī is salient when we consider the change case for our health system. Stitches have been dropped over many years which have resulted in poor outcomes for many people most starkly Māori and Pacific communities. Improving the equity of health outcomes achieved in New Zealand requires first that we acknowledge the current inequities are not acceptable and that we see those stitches that have been dropped and understand their message. The old health system was not set up to understand the needs of individuals whānau and communities and so the system could not design and deliver services to address those identified needs.There's a lot I'd like to say on this bill but I want to acknowledge some of the comments of my colleague Dr Shane Reti which I was disappointed by and I want to thank the members of the Pae Ora Legislation Committee its advisors in the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet and its clerk Anna Platten and her team. Those comments that Dr Reti made about the disrespectful and deceitful start to the committee were a disappointment to me—DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Order! I'm on my feet; you have to sit down. No you cannot say that another member is deceitful. All members are honourable so you must withdraw and apologise.ARENA WILLIAMS: Sorry Mr Speaker. May I clarify?DEPUTY SPEAKER: Just withdraw and apologise.ARENA WILLIAMS: I withdraw and apologise. What I intended to say was that that member said that there was a disrespectful and deceitful start to the committee that was the Pae Ora Legislation Committee. I wish to bring a perspective: that those specialised committees have an important role in generating the kind of debate which is consensus building in this House and engaging on technical points of law. I thank the committee the clerks the submitters for rising to the challenge of this new mechanism that we have.Nā reira he mihi tēnei ki Te Whare e tū nei.[Therefore I acknowledge this House that stands here.]It's always a privilege to serve in this place with you all and a delight when we're making a project like this.
Craig LizDr LIZ CRAIG (Labour): Thank you Mr Speaker. It's a real pleasure to speak on the second reading of this bill which I think provides a once-in-a-generation opportunity to transform the health sector. And I'd like to start by thanking all of those who submitted on the bill because a lot of their suggestions led to some really useful changes. I think a lot of those have already been canvassed in previous speeches. What I'd like to focus on is strategic planning which is a core part of the bill because what the bill does is it establishes a whole suite of key strategic documents. Within those four strategies—a New Zealand health strategy a Māori a Pacific and a disability health strategy—basically what we have is a lot of submitters that then suggested that we added other strategies to that focusing on children the rainbow community Asian people refugees rural communities rare disorders mental health and addictions women and medicines. I think one of the challenges the Pae Ora Legislation Committee had is thinking about how you could actually achieve overall consistency if you ended up with a whole lot of different strategies which each pulled a particular issue off into its own separate strategy and then how you would consider the strategic direction as a whole because there was a real concern that you may end up with fragmentation.So what we also looked at is whether in some of the existing suite of policy documents within that you could include the health needs of those particular groups and in particular for example the new Government policy statement (GPS) on health. What that does is it sets out the Government's overall priorities and objectives for the health sector over three years. In addition to Māori and Pacific and disabled people within that which are already included in the strategies it also states that the GPS must include the Government's priorities for improving health outcomes for women rural communities and other populations. So there are some of those aspects already touched on in the overall GPS. Then also in locality planning there the requirement was that Health New Zealand had to consult with those within the localities not only those in the community in terms of service users but also their service providers and their input too could be included in terms of particularly thinking about strategic approaches to rural communities. We were also advised that there wouldn't be anything precluding other strategies being included in future. So we were happy that the strategic policy documents with the addition of a women's health strategy would cover the areas we need and I commend this bill to the House.
Rurawhe AdrianPAE ORA (HEALTHY FUTURES) BILLSecond ReadingDebate resumed from 3 May.DEPUTY SPEAKER: When we last considered this bill we were up to call No. 10 which of course is the Labour Party.
Warren-Clark AngieANGIE WARREN-CLARK (Labour): Thank you Mr Speaker. As a mad keen fisho I'd just like to stand and take a brief call. I absolutely love this bill. A shout-out to Harry Hudson my tutor who taught me everything I know about fishing. I know he's watching at home as are many many fishos out there. This bill is a really useful piece of legislation. It supports a holistic integrated approach to managing oceans and fisheries. The fisheries management system needs to be strengthened to ensure commercial fishing is sustainable productive and inclusive. Let's face it: when we can take and count everything that is landed including what is killed as it is landed we will know a better story about our fishing catch. We can better manage we can then also use that data to identify markets and we can also make some decisions about who we choose to buy our fish from.This is a really important piece of legislation—could talk for hours on it; won't. I commend it to the House.
Henderson EmilyDr EMILY HENDERSON (Labour—Whangārei): Kia ora e te Māngai o te Whare. In the words of the great James K Baxter: The little ships From the harbour sail Bang in the teeth Of a southerly gale And they carry home to you and me Snapper and groper and tarakihi. Except of course they won't unless we do more to make our fisheries sustainable. It is an important industry. This however is an important bill that recognises as my colleague across the House on the ACT benches did not that in fact there is extensive evidence of routing of the system and the illegal disposal of catch. This bill will make it possible to have a more accurate taking of information and more accurate penalties that won't just be a big hammer on the occasional catch but a constant series of graduated penalties which will enable us to sort this system out. I commend it to the House.
McAnulty KieranKIERAN McANULTY (Labour—Wairarapa): This is a great bill. It makes sense. We're looking forward to getting it to select committee. I don't see any need to delay it any further. I therefore commend the bill to the House. Chris Bishop: Seven seconds—well done. Hon KIERAN McANULTY: Thank you.
Lorck Anna; Rurawhe AdrianANNA LORCK (Labour—Tukituki): Thank you Mr Speaker. I rise as a member of the Primary Production Committee who will be taking on this bill and—Chris Bishop: Oh you're on that too? ANNA LORCK: —yes—as a member of the Primary Production Committee it's important to look at how much aquaculture does for our economy. The fishing seafood industry is worth $4.2 billion to our New Zealand economy and it employs over 13000 people—2500 of those are in the commercial fishing and aquaculture sector—and New Zealand export earnings for seafood are $2 billion and are expected to rise from there exporting over 267901 tonnes from a report I have read. When I looked at the legislative statement and worked through some of these objectives I noted from one of the members that he talks about pragmatism. I can say that we are a very pragmatic select committee and so this bill coming to our select committee will get a very good hearing. We make such good use of all members in the select committee. We're quite collegial a lot of the time because we work in the interests of the primary sector. That is why I am so looking forward to doing the hard work that's required of us as we bring this legislation through all stages. I commend this bill to the House. DEPUTY SPEAKER: This is a split call. I call Harete Hipango—five minutes.
Luxton JoJO LUXTON (Labour—Rangitata): Thank you Madam Speaker. It's a pleasure to rise and take a call on the Fisheries Amendment Bill as the chair of the Primary Production Committee the committee that will be considering this piece of legislation. Can I acknowledge and thank the Minister for Oceans and Fisheries for bringing this piece of legislation to the House and to us. I know that my fellow select committee members will be looking forward to hearing from submitters and there will no doubt be quite a lot of interest in this piece of legislation. We are an island nation and as Tim van de Molen the member who's just taken his seat mentioned we have many recreational fishers around New Zealand who quite enjoy getting out in the weekends and doing a dabble at fishing. Perhaps not catching as the member mentioned but they still have the enjoyment of being able to get out there and have a go. We've also heard that this has a huge economic impact for our country as well but most importantly I think what this bill works to do is to create a more sustainable fisheries model and that is of utmost importance because we have seen overfishing throughout the years and it just can't continue. It does also bring the fisheries management in line with the practices of the 2020s. The member opposite raised a concern around what he believes is a truncated process. This is going to have a shortened time frame and I just wanted to mention to the member that the reason for that is it is quite likely that 1 October is when the fishing year begins and so we do need to have this piece of legislation back into the House and moving forward for that time. We have heard that this bill will bring in graduated offences that will be proportionate to the offending that occurs. We're going to be covering off new rules and regulations around the landing and discarding of fish which members already have gone into quite some depth around and so I won't relitigate all of that. This is a good piece of legislation and I appreciate members opposite supporting it at first reading. We do look forward to the select committee process where there'll be the opportunity for everyone to have input and bring this piece of legislation to fruition. I commend it to the House.
Reti ShaneDr SHANE RETI (National): Thank you Mr Speaker. This motion came to the Health Committee. It is very administrative and what it looks to do is to classify or reclassify 49 substances under the Misuse of Drugs Act. These are very serious substances. They include alpha-PVP which is a controlled drug analogue; amides and carbamates which are precursors to methamphetamine; specified fentanyl analogues and we know that overseas that fentanyl has become one of the pre-eminent drug concerns; and specified synthetic opioids and these are psychoactive substances when used for the primary purpose of inducing a psychoactive effect. The order also talks to prescription medicines controlled drug analogues and a range of chemicals that don't fit into any one particular category. It was explained to the Health Committee that these were all recommended by the Expert Advisory Committee on Drugs and that classifying substances in this order is not about criminalising people but it's more about people who use harmful drugs—how we can give authorities the tools to better deal with people and particularly to have better tools for those who manufacture and supply harmful drugs. They said to us that doing this will provide better investigative powers for the New Zealand Customs Service and the New Zealand Police to disrupt supply. We asked about some of the implications on particular service areas particularly midwives and their prescribing of fentanyl in a legitimate way. The ministry said that in consultation with the midwifery groups the drug regulations had been amended to allow fentanyl and tramadol to be added to the list that midwives can prescribe. Can I point out Penny Simmonds' member's bill in a similar area which looks to reclassify the term medical practitioner" to authorise prescribers as it relates particularly to nurse practitioners who might also be excluded from obtaining section 29 drugs. This is a similar process that's happened to midwives here so that they've been allowed to prescribe fentanyl. These are very serious medicines or precursors with the ability to create great harm. The select committee unanimously supported the progress of the order including our Green colleagues on that select committee and so we had unanimous support for this order to come to the House. The National Party supports this order through to its conclusion. Thank you."
Little Andrew; Rurawhe AdrianMOTIONSMisuse of Drugs (Classification and Presumption of Supply Order 2022—ApprovalHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Health) (remote): Thank you Mr Speaker. I move That pursuant to section 4A of the Misuse of Drugs Act 1975 this House approve the Misuse of Drugs (Classification and Presumption of Supply) Order 2022 made under section 4 of that Act.This is a reasonably technical motion that with the approval of Parliament allows then the order to be promulgated and for drugs listed in the order to then appear in the appropriate schedule in the Misuse of Drugs Act. This is a measure designed to provide protection from harm in the face of a growing presence or risk of presence of the drugs listed so that our communities and our people are kept safe from them. The nature of the Misuse of Drugs Act does attract some commentary from some quarters as amongst other things it is about making sure that certain substances are appropriately classified and with the appropriate level of classification reflecting the level of harm that they pose then there are measures available if those drugs are abused or improperly used.These orders providing for the classification of drugs in these circumstances are on the basis of advice from the Expert Advisory Committee on Drugs and their judgment is that of the drugs listed in the order the current controls and restrictions on them do not adequately reflect the potential harms and risks that they pose. Approving this order means that we not only provide greater safety in relation to the presence of these particular drugs in our community but meet our international obligations under a variety of international instruments: the United Nations Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs the Convention on Psychotropic Substances and the Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances. Some of these drugs are ones that are already present in New Zealand but now pose a level of risk that they need to be reclassified. Some are drugs that we know from intelligence are abroad and there is a much higher potential or risk that they will make their way into New Zealand. These are measures to make sure that with the appropriate classification it affords proper protection to New Zealanders who might otherwise be subject to their use or abuse. On that note I commend the motion to the House.DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is that the motion be agreed to.
Rurawhe AdrianPETITIONS PAPERS SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLSDEPUTY SPEAKER: No papers or select committee reports have been presented and no bills have been introduced. A petition has been delivered to the Clerk for presentation.CLERK: Petition of Anna Hodgkinson requesting that the House inquire into whether those harmed by the COVID-19 vaccines are being recognised and cared for appropriately by ACC and healthcare providers and allow qualified health practitioners to grant medical exemptions.DEPUTY SPEAKER: That petition stands referred to the Petitions Committee.
Robertson Grant; Hipkins ChrisHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Prime Minister): I just wonder what progress the member would be able to talk about with regard to the Organic Products Bill since we talk about that each week.Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House): Heaps!
Hipkins ChrisHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House): As I've indicated to the member last time he asked this in the House I do think a further extension of the COVID-19 Public Health Response Act is going to be required because at the moment many of the aspects of the COVID response are still based on that legislation. The legislation does have a sunset provision within it so it will ultimately expire but at the moment it is still being used. So it is the Government's current intention to bring a further motion to the House to extend the Act.
Bishop ChrisCHRIS BISHOP (National): I thank the Leader of the House for the update. I was wondering in light of the fact that the COVID-19 Public Health Response Act is coming to the time at which it needs to be either extended or amended if the Leader of the House could give the House an indication as to what the Government's intention is with relation to the Act.
Hipkins ChrisBUSINESS STATEMENTHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House): Legislation to be considered next week will include the first reading of the Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa Tāmaki nui-ā-Rua Claims Settlement Bill; the second readings of the Plant Variety Rights Bill and the Animal Welfare Amendment Bill; and the remaining stages of the Crown Pastoral Land Reform Bill the Retail Payment System Bill and the Maritime Powers Bill. On the morning of Thursday 12 May there will be an extended sitting for special debates on the exposure draft of the Natural and Built Environments Bill and New Zealand's first emissions budget under the Climate Change Response Act 2002 and further Government bills to be discussed through the Business Committee.
Rurawhe AdrianTHURSDAY 5 MAY 2022The Deputy Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.KARAKIA/PRAYERSDEPUTY SPEAKER: E te Atua kaha rawa ka tuku whakamoemiti atu mātou mō ngā karakia kua waihotia mai ki runga i a mātou. Ka waiho i ō mātou pānga whaiaro katoa ki te taha. Ka mihi mātou ki te Kuīni me te inoi atu mō te ārahitanga i roto i ō mātou whakaaroarohanga kia mōhio ai kia whakaiti ai tā mātou whakahaere i ngā take o te Whare nei mō te oranga te maungārongo me te aroha o Aotearoa. Amene.[Almighty God we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance in our deliberations that we may conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom and humility for the welfare peace and compassion of New Zealand. Amen.]
Dean JacquiASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): I declare the House in committee for the consideration of the Contraception Sterilisation and Abortion (Safe Areas) Amendment Bill.
Wednesday 5 May 2021 - Volume 751
Holidays (Increasing Sick Leave) Amendment Bill — Second Reading
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Holidays (Increasing Sick Leave) Amendment Bill be now read a second time.Ayes 75New Zealand Labour 65; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.Bill read a second time.
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That clause 1 be agreed to.Ayes 77New Zealand Labour 65; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Clause 1 agreed to.Clause 2 agreed to.Clause 3 agreed to.House resumed.
Immigration (COVID-19 Response) Amendment Bill — In Committee — Clauses 1 to 3
VoteCHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): I invite the member if she has another question to ask to come back to Part 2 which is only clause 17. Notice and time period was all included in her Supplementary Order Paper and we've passed Part 1.The question is that Erica Stanford's amendment to Part 2 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 30 be agreed to. A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Noes 75New Zealand Labour 65; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10.Amendment not agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Part 2 be agreed to.Ayes 77New Zealand Labour 65; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Part 2 agreed to.
Immigration (COVID-19 Response) Amendment Bill — in committee — Part 2
Immigration (COVID-19 Response) Amendment Bill — In Committee—Part 1
VoteCHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is that Erica Stanford's amendments to Part 1 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 30 be agreed to. A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Noes 75New Zealand Labour 65; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10.Amendments not agreed to.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): The amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 32 in the name of Ricardo Menéndez March is out of order as outside the scope of the bill. The question is that Erica Stanford's amendments to Part 1 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 31 be agreed to. A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 53New Zealand National 33; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; ACT New Zealand 10.Noes 65New Zealand Labour 65. Amendments not agreed to.A party vote was called for on the question That Part 1 be agreed to.Ayes 77New Zealand Labour 65; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Part 1 agreed to.
VoteKIERAN McANULTY (Chief Whip—Labour): I move That the question be now put.A party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put. Ayes 77New Zealand Labour 65; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10;Te Paati Māori 2.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.
11. Question No. 11—HealthDr TRACEY McLELLAN (Labour—Banks Peninsula) to the Minister of HealthQuestion No. 11—Health11. Dr TRACEY McLELLAN (Labour—Banks Peninsula) to the Minister of Health: What recent announcements has he made about the Government's response to the Health and Disability System Review?Hon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Health): On Wednesday 21 April I announced major reforms to the New Zealand health system that will make healthcare accessible for all New Zealanders. The new health system will replace all district health boards with one national organisation Health New Zealand; establish a new Māori health authority; establish a new public health agency; and strengthen the Ministry of Health to monitor performance and advise Government on policy matters. The reforms will mean that for the first time we will have a truly national health system and the kind of treatment people get will no longer be determined by where they live.Dr Tracey McLellan: Why has the Government taken this approach?Hon ANDREW LITTLE: The changes are in response to the Health and Disability System Review which found the public health system was under stress and that a greater emphasis on primary healthcare had the greatest potential to improve New Zealanders' health. The reforms herald a change in the focus for the health system. We will have the chance to make it a priority to treat more people before they get sick so they don't have to go to hospital thereby taking the pressure off hospitals.Dr Tracey McLellan: What sort of feedback has he received on the structure of the new health system so far?Hon ANDREW LITTLE: Since the announcement two weeks ago I've had the opportunity to meet with many health sector groups and stakeholders and the feedback I've received has been overwhelmingly positive. I've also seen comments by Sir John Hansen the chair of the Canterbury District Health Board who said This will offer a much more coherent view of health which my experience suggests has been needed for some time." and comments by well-known health leader Dr Lester Levy who said "In my view these health reforms are well conceived soundly constructed genuinely necessary and with disciplined and outstanding implementation will make the difference everyone would like to see.""