Logie JanJAN LOGIE (Green): Thank you Mr Chair while I accidentally throw my glasses away! I do just want to acknowledge the sense of emotion in the room and again just how personal and heartfelt this is for everyone engaged in this discussion because these are deeply human discussions. And I want to also really support the calls around anti-discrimination around getting rid of sexism in our country. That is something that I spend a lot of my time and effort involved in trying to do as well as stamping out discrimination against people with disabilities in this country. I want to acknowledge that we have more work to do as a country to do that. I do not believe however that this piece of legislation is the place where we can be effective doing that work; except I will note that this piece of legislation enables us to get rid of some really discriminatory concepts and language as it refers to people with disabilities that's in the legislation at the moment.This is our chance to take off our law books the ability to have an abortion on the grounds of fetal abnormality which is in our current legislation. This is our chance to change that. So for people who really care about these issues—which I do; the Green Party has put a huge amount of our political effort around fighting discrimination—this piece of legislation in front of us today is a step forwards towards challenging discrimination on the basis of disability as well as gender. Because we know that control of women's bodies is one of the main tools that's used to oppress women and that this legislation we have on our books now was founded on a fundamental mistrust of women. For me one of the really telling examples of that in the debate at the time that happened forty years ago in the initial draft legislation then they had rape as a ground for abortion. That was taken out by members of this Parliament during that debate because the mostly men in the House at that time said that women would just lie and say they'd been raped to access abortions. We have to start trusting women to make the right decisions for them and their families and trust them and challenge discrimination in our society—yes—and I hope every single person who's raised their voice in the Chamber tonight will step into every single other initiative that we put up to challenge disablism in our society as well as supporting this legislation.I will note people's fears. I want to just give them something in terms of our test about is this increase—changing our threshold at 20 weeks—likely to increase abortions based on any fetal diagnosis. The international evidence is no—that there has not been when there's been liberalisation an increase in the proportion of terminations that happen after that time frame. I would also say that some of the statistics that we've been given around Iceland are really misleading and inaccurate. The information I have on that—and remember Iceland is a bit smaller than Wellington; so when you're hearing that there hasn't been in a year anybody born with Down syndrome that's actually possible in a town the size of Wellington and when you compare the Icelandic statistics with the European statistics there is no significant statistical difference. And that is over a 10-year period across jurisdictions. So this legislation is not going to—we have no evidence whatsoever—make that difference.To speak briefly to the parental notification I've worked with young people in youth health and I want people to know that if you do that young people will not go to the doctor and they will not have the conversation with their parents which usually happens after they've been to the doctor because they've had the confidence to go.