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Faafoi Kris: Regulatory Reform Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Faafoi Kris: Regulatory Reform Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4682. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
KRIS FAAFOI (Labour—Mana) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I am aware that there may not be a requirement for this to be broadcast on the radio and on television but I am just wondering because of the technology whether this is being recorded for the purposes of  
Hansard 
 and whether this debate should continue if it is not being broadcast.
Roy Eric: Regulatory Reform Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Regulatory Reform Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4677. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: The Hon Clayton Cosgrove.
Curran Clare: Regulatory Reform Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Curran Clare: Regulatory Reform Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4673. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
CLARE CURRAN (Labour—Dunedin South) 
: 
 It feels a little bit surreal speaking today in the Chamber on a bill that repeals 31 Acts that no longer exist the Regulatory Reform Bill especially when the Minister who has charge of that bill John Banks suffers from what can only be called documented memory loss. 
Brendan Horan 
: Amnesia. 
CLARE CURRAN 
: Amnesia or documented memory loss as I choose to call it. Convenient memory loss not the Regulatory Reform Bill or any other bill in his name is his current claim to fame—forgetting whether he had met with Kim Dotcom whether he had flown his helicopter to Dotcom’s mansions and whether he had asked for been offered or received donations from that very same Mr Dotcom. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: We are on agricultural compounds and veterinary medicines—nothing to do with Dotcom. 
CLARE CURRAN 
: Well in the circumstances I think it would be pertinent to ask whether the Minister actually remembers what is in the bill given the documented memory loss. I was going to suggest that we give him a wee test and ask whether he can name the 31 non-existent Acts that are being repealed. 
The bill is not actually even his bill originally. It was actually originally a Labour bill in the name of the Hon Lianne Dalziel and then it became Rodney Hide’s bill. Now it is John Banks’ bill. There is certainly nothing wrong with this bill and Labour supports it as we have through all of its stages to date but most of the changes in this bill are small and technical in nature and are hardly slashing red tape. 
Although it is all about I guess a bit of tinkering our view is that perhaps Mr Banks should have made its passage more worthwhile by introducing his regulatory reforms for schools into this bill. They are regulatory reforms that as Mr Banks has been known to say on many an occasion are all about removing red tape and slashing red tape. The reforms are about fundamentally changing the school system and introducing charter schools which were not in the policy of this Government going into the election. They do away with a number of what I am sure Mr Banks considers to be trivial and pesky regulations which the Prime Minister might say people should not be hung up on—the fact that teachers without qualifications will be able to teach New Zealand children at those charger schools. 
Since that announcement I think it was described by one academic as being a case of you can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig. It was a rebranding exercise that clearly demonstrates that the Government has recognised—
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4672. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 72 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 46 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 11; Mana 1. 
Clause 2 agreed to. 
Bill to be reported with amendment presently.
Tisch Lindsay: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Tisch Lindsay: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4667. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Members the last votes on the Minister’s amendments on Supplementary Order Paper 100 to Part 4 and on Part 4 as amended were incorrectly announced. The results should have been Ayes 72 and Noes 46. The record will show the correct results.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4665. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 4 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 72 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 46 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 11; Mana 1. 
Part 4 as amended agreed to. 
The result corrected after originally being announced as Ayes 72 Noes 48.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4665. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 72 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 46 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 11; Mana 1 
Amendments agreed to. 
The result corrected after originally being announced as Ayes 72 Noes 48.
Robertson H V Ross: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Robertson H V Ross: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4659. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Now honourable members we need to focus our minds on Part 4. The debate on Part 4 is clauses 133 through to 149A clause 16 and clauses 150 to 157.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4658. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 3 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 12 
Green Party 11; Mana 1. 
Part 3 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4658. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 117 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 11; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 1 
Mana 1. 
Amendments agreed to.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4658. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 46 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 11; Mana 1. 
Noes 72 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 100 in the name of the Hon Amy Adams to Part 3 be agreed to.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4658. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 46 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 11; Mana 1. 
Noes 72 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 103 in the name of Moana Mackey to clause 125 be agreed to.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4658. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 46 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 11; Mana 1. 
Noes 72 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 102 in the name of Gareth Hughes to clause 125 be agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Robertson H V Ross: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 22 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4646. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Kia ora tatou no reira e te Whare. Tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa. Good afternoon honourable members. The House is in Committee on the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill also the Regulatory Reform Bill the Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill and the Taxation (Annual Rates Returns Filing and Remedial Matters) Bill. When the Committee last considered the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill we had reached Part 3. The question is therefore that Part 3 stand part. I call the honourable member Jacqui Dean.
Tisch Lindsay: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Tisch Lindsay: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4615. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Just as a matter of interest if you do not ask for a party vote I do not give one. You must ask for a party vote.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4615. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 2 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 71 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4614. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Noes 71 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 100 in the name of the Hon Amy Adams to Part 2 be agreed to.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4614. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Noes 71 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 106 in the name of Moana Mackey to Part 2 be agreed to.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4614. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Noes 71 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 103 in the name of Moana Mackey to clauses 33A 60A and 62A be agreed to.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4613. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Noes 71 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 102 in the name of Gareth Hughes to Part 2 be agreed to.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4613. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Noes 71 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 101 in the name of Eugenie Sage to clause 40 be agreed to.
Wagner Nicky: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Wagner Nicky: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4612. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
NICKY WAGNER (National—Christchurch Central) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4595. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 1A as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 71 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Part 1A as amended agreed to.
Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4594. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Noes 105 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 100 in the name of the Hon Amy Adams to Part 1A be agreed to.
Adams Amy: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
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Adams Amy: Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4593. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon AMY ADAMS (Minister for the Environment) 
: 
 I am happy to take a call on Part 1A. It is quite a short part of the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Bill and so I am more than happy to address Opposition members’ genuine queries in the expectation that we should be able to move through this part with some ease. The issue that Mr Robertson has raised around clause 17 and my proposed new clause 17(3) we did touch on last time the bill was in Committee and I gave Mr Robertson at that stage the assurance that there was not a cyclical process created. It seems that he just wants confirmation of that with the benefit of some reflection and I can assure Opposition members that I went away and double-checked that point. I went back to the Parliamentary Counsel Office and checked with the drafting and it has come back and absolutely and categorically made it very clear that it is as I indicated to the member the last time and there is no possibility of a continual loop which he was concerned about. So that addresses the first point. 
The second point I think can be addressed equally quickly and that is the concern that Ms Mackey raised around a particular application—and obviously I do not want to start discussing particular applications. I think the point the member is referring to really relates to Part 4 of the bill which talks about transitional activities right now so I would rather we had that discussion then. The clauses 17 and 17A relate to the situation once this regime is in place and we have a set of regulations. If in the future those regulations are changed and people have started an activity whether it be planned in terms of committing to rigs and drilling programmes and the like with one set of regulations and at some point a future Parliament promulgates new regulations that covers how the transition works between those two. So I do not think it is probably quite the concern members were expecting. 
Moana Mackey 
: It might be the same issue though. 
Hon AMY ADAMS 
: Well it could be but of course that is something the Parliament of the day can take into account when it promulgates those regulations—the point being that people are entitled to proceed on the basis of the law as it stands. They work on that basis and if there is a change we need to have some mechanism for making sure that that is seemly. So that is the intention of this part of the bill. No doubt we will have more discussion on the original transitional provisions as we move into this regime when we get to Part 4. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 102 in the name of Gareth Hughes to clause 15 be agreed to.
Vote: Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill — Third Reading 
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Vote: Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4592. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bill read a third time.
English Bill: Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill — Third Reading 
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English Bill: Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4592. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) 
: 
 I move  
That the Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill be now read a third time 
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Roy Eric: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
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Roy Eric: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4592. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The time for this debate has expired. I shall put the question. The question is that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye to the contrary No. The Ayes have it. Party vote? The Clerk—[ 
Interruption 
] It is timely to remind the House that party votes will be taken in silence.
Roy Eric: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
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Roy Eric: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4590. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Paula Bennett you have just over 6 minutes.
Roy Eric: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
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Roy Eric: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4586. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Moana Mackey 5 minutes.
Roy Eric: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
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Roy Eric: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4564. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Technically this is a 5-minute call going to Opposition members. In their absence I will accept a 10-minute call because I think you are next on the schedule after that.
Roy Eric: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
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Roy Eric: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4563. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The next call will be a 5-minute call with a 1-minute bell.
Robertson H V Ross: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
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Robertson H V Ross: Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill — Third Reading Imprest Supply Debate 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4556. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Before I call the next member I advise the House that the next call is a split call between two members from New Zealand First. They are two 5-minute calls. What I will do for the members is with 1 minute remaining the bell will go.
Joyce Steven: Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill — First Reading 
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Joyce Steven: Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4550. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Associate Minister of Finance) 
 on behalf of the Minister of Finance: I move  
That the Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill be now read a first time. 
Bill read a first time.
Smith Lockwood: Urgent Debates Declined — Afghanistan—Provincial Reconstruction Team and Deaths of Army Personnel 
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Smith Lockwood: Urgent Debates Declined — Afghanistan—Provincial Reconstruction Team and Deaths of Army Personnel 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4550. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Norman Russel: Urgent Debates Declined — Afghanistan—Provincial Reconstruction Team and Deaths of Army Personnel 
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Norman Russel: Urgent Debates Declined — Afghanistan—Provincial Reconstruction Team and Deaths of Army Personnel 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4550. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Dr RUSSEL NORMAN (Co-Leader—Green) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave to move a motion without notice on the withdrawal of New Zealand troops from Afghanistan.
Smith Lockwood: Urgent Debates Declined — Afghanistan—Provincial Reconstruction Team and Deaths of Army Personnel 
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Smith Lockwood: Urgent Debates Declined — Afghanistan—Provincial Reconstruction Team and Deaths of Army Personnel 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4550. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have received a letter from Dr Russel Norman seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the deaths of three New Zealand personnel serving in the provincial reconstruction team in Afghanistan on Sunday 19 August the range of operations of the provincial reconstruction team the equipment used by the provincial reconstruction team and the withdrawal date of the provincial reconstruction team. 
The deaths of the New Zealand personnel is a particular case of recent occurrence of grave concern to New Zealand and involving ministerial responsibility. However the House has more appropriate ways of recognising such events and has today already done so. The urgent debate procedure is a means of debating matters that have occurred. The accumulation of information or continuing issues do not meet the test of a particular case of recent occurrence. A debate occurs at the point in time when a decision is publicly announced. No decision on a withdrawal date has yet been made and the range of operations and the equipment used by the provincial reconstruction team are ongoing operational matters. 
It is also relevant when considering whether a matter requires the urgent attention of the House to consider whether there are other parliamentary means of debating the subject. The House has before it today the third reading of the Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill which may be taken with an Imprest Supply Bill. As is the case with the Address in Reply debate and the Budget debate there is virtually no limitation on the debate on such a bill on the grounds of relevancy. This provides an opportunity today to debate the ongoing operations and the possible timing of any withdrawal. The application is therefore declined.
Upston Louise: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Upston Louise: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4549. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
12. 
LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupo) 
 to the  
Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector 
: What recent progress has been made on the community-led development scheme? 
Hon JO GOODHEW (Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector) 
: 
 A significant milestone has been achieved. All five communities in the scheme recently signed funding agreements for a combined total of nearly $1.7 million. They are now ready to start implementing their community plans. The five communities are Whirinaki Mount Roskill Mangakino Cannons Creek and North East Valley in Dunedin. The community plans were developed and agreed by each community. They set out their vision and how they will carry out their community projects and activities. 
Louise Upston 
: What are the benefits of the community-led approach? 
Hon JO GOODHEW 
: The Government is supporting the five communities to identify their own priorities and develop their own solutions. The people in the communities are able to participate fully so the scheme also helps build leadership skills and community independence.
King Colin: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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King Colin: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4542. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
6. 
COLIN KING (National—Kaikoura) 
 to the  
Minister of Science and Innovation 
: What announcements has he made regarding the Government’s work to boost innovation? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Science and Innovation) 
: 
 This morning alongside the Prime Minister and the Minister for Communications and Information Technology I released the  
Building Innovation 
 progress report which is the second of six reports being released by the Government detailing and updating our Business Growth Agenda. The  
Building Innovation 
 report outlines more than 50 current and new Government initiatives across the innovation space. Specific measures include further information on the Advanced Technology Institute including that it will be named after the late Sir Paul Callaghan; the launching of National Science Challenges asking the public to assist us to identify New Zealand’s greatest challenges and working with researchers to achieve innovative solutions; encouraging the development of innovation parks which involves clustering research providers with innovative private sector firms and start-ups to take advantage of having highly skilled scientists and innovators working in close proximity; and developing a small advanced economies initiative with similar sized and advanced nations to focus on how we can use science and innovation to position for economic growth. 
Colin King 
: How will the Government assist business to boost research and development? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: The Government has set an ambitious target to increase private sector research and development funding—double from 0.54 percent to more than 1 percent. To help business achieve these goals we have greatly increased the TechNZ co-funding for businesses to $115 million per year in 2012-13. We have committed to the Primary Growth Partnership combining Government and industry investment worth $600 million of which around half comes from the Government. We have committed $166 million over the next 4 years to develop the Advanced Technology Institute. We have a project working to ensure we obtain the maximum leverage from Government funding in terms of increased firm research and development. And we are also examining ways to improve the incubator model to ensure more start-ups have the opportunity to commercialise their ideas and launch products.
Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 21 August 2012. Volume:683;Page:4537. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is objection. Question No. 4. I call Dr Russel Norman. [ 
Interruption 
] Order! I will not tolerate that either.
Stewart Barbara: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Stewart Barbara: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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BARBARA STEWART (Whip—NZ First) 
: 
 I seek leave for Andrew Williams to ask the question which originally was down to be asked by the Rt Hon Winston Peters.
Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: I simply draw the member’s attention to Standing Order 86(1) which says: “no other member may ask a question on that member’s behalf.” Question No. 4. I call Dr Russel Norman.
Williams Andrew: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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ANDREW WILLIAMS (NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I was advised that another member can in fact deliver a question on behalf of that member.
Dunne Peter: Motions — New Zealand Defence Force—Deaths of Corporal Luke Tamatea Lance Corporal Jacinda Baker and Private Richard Harris in Afghanistan 
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Hon PETER DUNNE (Leader—United Future) 
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 Up and down New Zealand in every little village and town the centrepiece is a war memorial upon which are displayed the names of those who have died in battles past. Many of us I suspect have looked upon those names and wondered about the people who are but chiselled memories there. What were they like? What were their aspirations? What were their hopes for the future? Why were they involved? When we consider Lance Corporal Jacinda Baker Corporal Luke Tamatea and Private Richard Harris we consider not only the next set of names to be chiselled into those monuments but real people in our experience doing a real and difficult job and paying an awful sacrifice for doing so. 
We may all well have our own views about the Afghanistan engagement. This occasion is not the time to air those. This occasion this afternoon is one to pay tribute to those who have lost their lives in pursuit of the objectives of that mission and to acknowledge the validity of their service the courage of their effort and the genuine nature of their involvement. There will be other times and other places to debate the wider defence and political questions. 
But today we stand alongside those individuals. We stand alongside their colleagues in Afghanistan—in Bamian—and in New Zealand their families and their friends. We stand again alongside the other families who have lost loved ones in this conflict and for whom the events of the last 2 weeks will be the most awful reminder all over again of their own experience. This occasion this afternoon is one for this Parliament to say to those who are suffering today that you have our support you have our sympathy you have our encouragement and you have our grateful admiration for the sacrifices that have been made in the pursuit of the freedom and the prosperity that we all seek to enjoy. 
 May the memories of Lance Corporal Baker Corporal Tamatea and Private Harris linger for a very long time. May their reputations and their honour be proudly displayed in the annals of our military history. May their families and friends take solace and comfort from the words of this Parliament this afternoon. May they rest in peace. 
Motion agreed to.
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Hon JOHN BANKS (Leader—ACT) 
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 It is with great sadness that I rise to speak on behalf of the ACT Party on the loss of our three soldiers in Afghanistan: Corporal Luke Tamatea Lance Corporal Jacinda Baker and Private Richard Harris. It is made all the more difficult is it not when it was just this time last week that we paid tribute to two other brother soldiers who lost their lives for the same cause. For the 2/1st Battalion Royal New Zealand Infantry Regiment based in Burnham it is five deaths in 2 weeks. It is a credit to our country that we continue to have brave men and women who are prepared to step up and defend democracy at any corner of the world. I recall again those words that are written high above the gates on entry to the infantry base at Burnham: “Remember that prosperity can only be for the free and that freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.” I cannot imagine the thoughts that will be in the minds of their fellow soldiers still on the ground in Bamian Province but we here today want them to know that we back home continually think about them we care about them and we greatly value their brave work. To the fallen. Our heartfelt sympathy goes out to their families to their friends and to the military at this very difficult time.
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ANDREW WILLIAMS (NZ First) 
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 On behalf of New Zealand First I wish to express our greatest sympathy to the family whanau friends and comrades of these brave soldiers: Corporal Luke Tamatea from Kawerau Lance Corporal Jacinda Baker from Christchurch and Private Richard Harris from Pukekohe. It is with great sorrow that within the short space of 2 weeks we are mourning the loss of more New Zealand soldiers in Afghanistan. They died in the service of their country undertaking a short 15-kilometre road journey to take a sick mate for medical treatment. 
This is the first time since the Viet Nam War that we have mourned the loss of a woman killed in action. It has also not been since the height of the Viet Nam War in 1968 1969 and 1970 that we have lost so many soldiers in such a short space of time. I feel great sorrow for the latest loss of lives and for those who grieve for them and I know how their loved ones are feeling this week having lost my brother in Viet Nam in 1969. The pain of the tragic loss never goes away but the families and friends can always be incredibly proud of the ultimate sacrifice their loved one made in the service of their country. 
New Zealand soldiers working in the provincial reconstruction team have carried out beneficial work in Bamian Province which has greatly improved the lives and safety of civilians there. We admire all the selfless work that these soldiers carried out to help others and we acknowledge that it takes great courage and bravery to serve in such a war-torn area as Afghanistan. This is a time for our nation to remember those whom we have lost and pay them the tribute they greatly deserve. May they rest in peace.
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Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green) 
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 The Green Party stands once again to acknowledge the sacrifice made by New Zealand soldiers. We pay tribute to Lance Corporal Jacinda Baker Private Richard Harris and Corporal Luke Tamatea members of the provincial reconstruction team in Afghanistan. This is a painful moment. Ten New Zealand soldiers have now died in Afghanistan since 2010. This is the greatest loss of life and injury in active New Zealand service since Viet Nam. The loss is felt throughout the country. 
Around these walls are various battle wreaths and plaques carved in wood. The 12 commemorating First World War battles were installed in 1918. The remaining 18 plaques commemorate the South African war the Second World War and subsequent events which were added in the 1960s. Perhaps Afghanistan will be added. If it is it will stand as a reminder that almost 100 years after the first battles depicted here we have not learnt how to tame warfare. 
The sacrifice of these three New Zealanders along with the two whom we honoured this same moment last week and the other five who have also fallen in Afghanistan demands that we re-examine our beliefs our values our institutions and our methods of relating between societies in the 21st century. We in New Zealand and all of us around the world must reassess what it will take to ensure that human conflict and the contestation of ideas are handled with greater dignity and in peace. That is the real tribute we can pay these young people and the families they leave behind.
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8. 
Dr JACKIE BLUE (National) 
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Minister of Health 
: What progress can he report on improvements to cancer services? 
Hon TONY RYALL (Minister of Health) 
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 I can report that the Government will invest $16 million over the next 4 years to ensure that every district health board can provide its patients with the care of dedicated cancer coordination nurses. All up 40 dedicated cancer coordination nurses will be working in health boards throughout the country by the end of the year. These specialist nurses will act as a single point of contact so that patients and their families no longer have to deal with navigating through multiple people from different parts of the health service throughout their treatment. It is expected that the district health boards will begin advertising vacancies for these roles in the next couple of months. 
Dr Jackie Blue 
: What evidence is there that this money will make a difference? 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: The concept is modelled on the successful work of a number of nurses around New Zealand particularly the cancer clinical specialists at the Canterbury District Health Board and in the New South Wales health service which is found to have a high impact on the services for cancer patients. Incredibly during a cancer patient’s treatment they can deal with up to 28 different doctors and many more different nurses. These dedicated cancer coordination nurses will coordinate and improve the quality of care for patients and provide them with a personal point of contact for information and support. This was part of the $33 million Budget announcement in respect of cancer made a few months ago by the Prime Minister.
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Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) 
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 I move  
That the Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill be now read a third time 
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That the Imprest Supply (Second for 2012/13) Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bill read a third time.
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Afghanistan—Provincial Reconstruction Team and Deaths of Army Personnel 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have received a letter from Dr Russel Norman seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the deaths of three New Zealand personnel serving in the provincial reconstruction team in Afghanistan on Sunday 19 August the range of operations of the provincial reconstruction team the equipment used by the provincial reconstruction team and the withdrawal date of the provincial reconstruction team. 
The deaths of the New Zealand personnel is a particular case of recent occurrence of grave concern to New Zealand and involving ministerial responsibility. However the House has more appropriate ways of recognising such events and has today already done so. The urgent debate procedure is a means of debating matters that have occurred. The accumulation of information or continuing issues do not meet the test of a particular case of recent occurrence. A debate occurs at the point in time when a decision is publicly announced. No decision on a withdrawal date has yet been made and the range of operations and the equipment used by the provincial reconstruction team are ongoing operational matters. 
It is also relevant when considering whether a matter requires the urgent attention of the House to consider whether there are other parliamentary means of debating the subject. The House has before it today the third reading of the Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill which may be taken with an Imprest Supply Bill. As is the case with the Address in Reply debate and the Budget debate there is virtually no limitation on the debate on such a bill on the grounds of relevancy. This provides an opportunity today to debate the ongoing operations and the possible timing of any withdrawal. The application is therefore declined. 
Dr RUSSEL NORMAN (Co-Leader—Green) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave to move a motion without notice on the withdrawal of New Zealand troops from Afghanistan. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is objection.