McKelvie IanIAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei): Thank you Mr Chair. Now I just wanted to go back in time a little bit to 4.15 this afternoon. As I do most nights when I'm in Parliament as I was eating my couple of lamb chops tonight I scrolled through the media clippings to see if I could find my name. Needless to say I didn't. But as I was scrolling through them I could not believe that I'd found—Hon Gerry Brownlee: Well at least it wasn't in the obituaries.IAN McKELVIE: I've only got one battery left Gerry. The other one's gone—I lost it in the garden. As I was scrolling through I found two articles which I was absolutely intrigued with. It only happened—at 4.15 this afternoon we passed the last of these bills and blow me down there were two articles in the paper already tonight criticising the previous bill for the mistakes it had made. But that's not what I want to ask the Minister about because I want to get very close to the topic Mr Penk was talking about a moment or two ago. One of the things that worries me about any kind of emergency and I don't think it matters whether it's COVID or whether it was earthquakes or whatever it was we always put a whole lot of pressure on I'd suppose you'd nicely put it as our bureaucracy or the Inland Revenue or whoever we do. We put significant pressure on them and when you read this bill it's quite interesting. I know there's been a lot of discussion around wage subsidies and the other relief payments that were made in the first series of lockdowns and clearly there's going to be a lot of pressure as a result of the last 92 or 93 days of lockdown in Auckland and the damage that's been done to businesses particularly in the tourism sector in the central North Island and clearly parts of the South Island as a result of Auckland not being able to get out because frankly they drive a lot of our tourism stuff in the rest of New Zealand. So the question I've got relates to clauses 5 and 6—well actually clauses 6 7 and 8 really. I guess that enables those businesses that receive grants to then make a decision whether they're right wrong or indifferent. That's all very well but we know from history that often those decisions aren't made accurately. Really my question for the Minister is whether the commissioner has the capacity to then manage the process as a result of what happens because there's a significant number of payments grants and in the case of the wage subsidy huge amounts of money being put out there by the Government to effectively enable business to continue and hopefully get going again once the lockdown situation stops and we get into our traffic light system. I'd have to say that I don't fully understand what businesses can open and what can't then so there's still going to be a requirement for relief payments at that point. But what I really was interested in the Minister assuring us on was that the commissioner has the capacity to manage this process and that they will effectively I guess be able to audit the process once those grants are made because it's quite confusing. Look the bits of this situation—I'm going to say grants" but it's not a very good word for it. But where we are allocating money in relief payments and things like that it's not altogether clear and it hasn't been clear right through this process and it would be difficult to make it clear initially because these things were put together very quickly. As I said earlier the last bill was put together so quickly that by 4.15 there were two mistakes already and it'd only been passed a minute or two before. But I'm really interested in the Minister assuring us that there is the capacity in the system to manage the allocation of these grants and manage—I wouldn't say the "policing" of them but certainly to manage the way in which the commissioner is satisfied that those payments have been made in the manner that they should be made. That's me."