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Turner Judy: Ngati Awa Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
Turner Judy: Ngati Awa Claims Settlement Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:624;Page:19332] 
JUDY TURNER (Deputy Leader—United Future) 
: 
 I rise on behalf of United Future to greet the Ngati Awa representatives who have joined us here this afternoon and to support the third reading of the Ngati Awa Claims Settlement Bill. The bill records the acknowledgements and apology given by the Crown to Ngati Awa and it mandates the settlement of historical claims as agreed by the Crown and Ngati Awa. 
After reading the agreed-upon historical account I have to say that what I found most devastating was the fact that generations have missed out on the use of substantial resources because of a death that was severely dealt with at the time with multiple arrests two trials imprisonment and execution. Therefore setting the record straight and cultural redress are as important as the financial and commercial issues. The responsibility of the runanga to manage the resources from the settlement which we do need to acknowledge can never be truly full on behalf of all Ngati Awa is an awesome challenge. 
I hope and pray that those charged with this opportunity do so mindful of those who looked forward to this day but never lived to realise it. The real challenge is not just what happens in the next few years but to invest in such a way as to have the effects of the decisions felt by grateful lives in two to three generations from now. Thinking and acting with an intergenerational mindset takes a lot more courage than any quick-fix short-term approach would require. However on that matter United Future feels confident that the intergenerational journey that brought Ngati Awa to this point today will continue to serve them as they plot a way forward. 
We congratulate Ngati Awa today on their determination their patience their hard work and their graciousness regarding this settlement. It is with great pleasure that we support the third reading of this bill.
Yates Dianne: Intellectual Disability (Compulsory Care) Bill — Consideration of Report of Health Committee 
Yates Dianne: Intellectual Disability (Compulsory Care) Bill — Consideration of Report of Health Committee 
[Volume:612;Page:9560] 
DIANNE YATES (Labour—Hamilton East) 
: 
 I wish to thank the previous speaker for supporting the bill. It is a bill that many of my constituents will be pleased to see passed. I also want to thank Judy Keall the previous member for Otaki for the work she did on this legislation as former chair of the Health Committee.
Brownlee Gerry: General Debates 
Brownlee Gerry: General Debates 
[Volume:616;Page:12448] 
GERRY BROWNLEE (Deputy Leader—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I may have been wrong but I think I heard in Mr Peters’ speech a suggestion that I had not read the seabed and foreshore bill currently before the House. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: That member will be seated. 
GERRY BROWNLEE 
: No I am making a point of order. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: That is not a point of order and the member knows it.
Tabling of Documents — Objectionable Publication—Report by Chief Censor 
Tabling of Documents — Objectionable Publication—Report by Chief Censor 
[Volume:625;Page:20355] 
Tabling of Documents 
Objectionable Publication—Report by Chief Censor 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 Because one Jim Peron has some supporters inside and outside this House I seek leave to table the report from the chief censor today which sets out that  
Unbound 
 the publication by Jim Peron is objectionable because it promotes the exploitation of children and young people for sexual purposes. 
Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Brownlee Gerry: Business of the House 
Brownlee Gerry: Business of the House 
[Volume:606;Page:4059] 
GERRY BROWNLEE (NZ National—Ilam) 
: 
 Noting the list of business that the Leader of the House has suggested will be progressed when we get back and noting also that this Opposition party the National Party has talked—indeed today—about facilitating Government business to make extra time available to Parliament I am wondering whether the Leader of the House might now consider the possibility of our having a debate on the situation in Iraq this afternoon at the conclusion of question time. That of course would be a matter of leave for the House which I now seek. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave has been sought to have that debate. Is there any objection? There is.
Stewart Barbara: Social Workers Registration Bill — Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Stewart Barbara: Social Workers Registration Bill — Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:607;Page:4867] 
BARBARA STEWART (NZ First) 
: 
 The Committee stage is a very important part of the process. I too would like to start with the title. We believe that the debate on the title is a very serious one because any title must be a fair reflection of the legislation. It should be accurate and self-explanatory. Quite frankly— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: We are debating the whole bill. 
BARBARA STEWART 
: That is right. The title does not reflect the content of the bill. It should definitely include the word “voluntary”. 
Like other groups social workers have been advocating for registration for many years but we know that the commencement is going to take a fairly long time. Once registration has been introduced there are many agencies and employers who will be faced with a whole lot of planning and personnel requirements and that will take some time. Before they can even do this the Social Workers Registration Board has to be established. Of course that cannot begin until the board is established and empowered to act. 
Clause 6(b) states that a person has to be fit and proper to practise social work. It is important that the definition or interpretation of these words is consistent with other usage. Likewise clause 6(c) deals with competence to practise social work with ethnic groups and that raises a big query as to what determines competence. Is it knowledge of language or protocol or religion? We do need to know. 
New Zealand First too believes that any system that registers social workers has to be open inclusive and flexible due to the very nature of social work. We support the establishment of the registration board to overview the practice and the procedures but we know this is going to be a longer process than we initially thought.
Prebble Richard: Employment Relations Law Reform Bill — Procedure 
Prebble Richard: Employment Relations Law Reform Bill — Procedure 
[Volume:620;Page:15843] 
Hon RICHARD PREBBLE (ACT) 
: 
 We are now all confused because there was no procedural vote. What I think the member was saying—if she does not mind my helping her—is that the United Future party was prepared to vote in favour of the amendments from the select committee but then wanted to vote against the whole bill. I do not know how she voted on the first question but that would mean that she ought to vote with the Ayes on the first vote and with the Noes on the second.
Burton Mark: Ngati Awa Claims Settlement Bill — In Committee Procedure 
Burton Mark: Ngati Awa Claims Settlement Bill — In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:623;Page:18807] 
Hon MARK BURTON (Minister in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations) 
: 
 I think it is fair to say that the last time the Committee sat on this matter some concern was raised by members about the proposed Maori wording in the preamble to the bill. Following consultation the introduction of this new Supplementary Order Paper 329 is about trying to resolve the concerns that were raised seriously—at least by some members. 
The new Supplementary Order Paper does two things. Firstly it inserts wording in Maori that is an exact literal translation—and the member used quite careful and appropriate words—to the best of anyone’s ability ever to quite do that with two languages. We have to accept the nuances sometimes and I know that the member understands that but to the best of expert ability in terms of both drafting and translation that has been done. 
The second thing that members raised some concern about—I think Mr Brownlee may have been the first—is I think on reflection a legitimate concern and that was to align the numbering systems. Although grammatically content in two paragraphs in one language may have been more logically contained in one paragraph in the other language it did not help members’ understanding. I know that the member of New Zealand First found it unhelpful. Also I think his points to officials when he had a briefing which were reported back to me were quite correct. For members of Parliament and members of the public who genuinely want to use these opportunities to assist their understanding of both languages in reaching translation we should if we can do things that assist that process. 
I thank members and acknowledge the useful contributions they have made. As for the suggestion the member made that as far as we can this should be the way we proceed it would be presumptuous of me to leap to that on behalf of all future legislation but certainly it is something I will take careful consideration of in my new role and responsibility as we go forward.
Carter Chris: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Second Reading 
Carter Chris: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:612;Page:9158] 
Hon CHRIS CARTER (Minister of Conservation) 
: 
 On behalf of the Labour Party I rise to support this bill.
Vote: Customs and Excise (Motor Spirits) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Customs and Excise (Motor Spirits) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:623;Page:18624] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 1 be agreed to. 
Ayes 71 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2; Maori Party 1. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 9. 
Clause 1 agreed to.
Visitors — Viet Nam—Commission on Petitions and Aspirations National Assembly 
Visitors — Viet Nam—Commission on Petitions and Aspirations National Assembly 
[Volume:627;Page:21819] 
Wednesday 22 June 2005 
Madam Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Visitors 
Viet Nam—Commission on Petitions and Aspirations National Assembly 
Madam SPEAKER 
: I have pleasure in informing the House that the members of the Commission on Petitions and Aspirations from the National Assembly of Viet Nam led by the Hon Le Quang Binh are present in the gallery. I am sure that members would wish that the delegation be welcomed.
Simich Clem: Ngati Tama Claims Settlement Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Simich Clem: Ngati Tama Claims Settlement Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:613;Page:10179] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: We have two amendments. The first one in the name of Stephen Franks is an amendment to insert new clause 6A. I rule it out of order.
Amended answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 12 to Minister 18 May 
Amended answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 12 to Minister 18 May 
[Volume:618;Page:13542] 
Amended answers to Oral Questions 
Question No. 12 to Minister 18 May 
Hon DAVID BENSON-POPE (Associate Minister for the Environment) 
: 
 On Tuesday 18 May in response to a supplementary question from Jeanette Fitzsimons I stated that I had been “… advised that autopsies of the sheep were carried out.” in relation to the sheep that had been destroyed at the completion of the Whakamaru field test. I have now been advised that the information given to me was incorrect. I am now advised that autopsies were systematically carried out on sheep as part of the trial but only prior to the conclusion of the trial and not on the destroyed sheep. I apologise to the House for any wrong impression that my answer may have caused.
Vote: Resource Management and Electricity Legislation Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Vote: Resource Management and Electricity Legislation Amendment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:627;Page:22331] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand Labour 51; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Noes 49 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; Green Party 9. 
Abstentions 5 
ACT New Zealand 5. 
Amendments agreed to.
Carter Chris: Taxation (Annual Rates GST Trans-tasman Imputation and Miscellaneous provisions) bill — First Reading 
Carter Chris: Taxation (Annual Rates GST Trans-tasman Imputation and Miscellaneous provisions) bill — First Reading 
[Volume:609;Page:6658] 
Hon CHRIS CARTER (Minister of Conservation) 
: 
 It was so nice to hear some positive words from Dr Smith. I hope that that positive contribution will continue as this bill goes through the select committee process. This is just a short contribution to say that I fully support this bill and look forward to its passage through the House.
Business Statement 
Business Statement 
[Volume:608;Page:5543] 
Thursday 8 May 2003 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Business Statement 
Hon MARK BURTON (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 Next week in the House it is the Government’s intention to make progress on the Ngati Tama Claims Settlement Bill the Families Commission Bill the Fair Trading Amendment Bill (No 3) the Crown Minerals Amendment Bill and the remaining stages of the Resource Management Amendment Bill (No 2). Wednesday is members’ day and of course Thursday is Budget day. 
GERRY BROWNLEE (NZ National—Ilam) 
: 
 I have a simple question for the Minister. Does he anticipate that the House would need to take urgency over any matters that are going to be announced in the Budget or are we likely to have any repeats of the extraordinary urgency that we saw this week over the passing of legislation that essentially should be a Budget matter? 
Hon MARK BURTON (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 To the first part of the member’s question I do not anticipate that the Budget will require any legislation or urgency.
Chadwick Steve: Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
Chadwick Steve: Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:607;Page:4607] 
STEVE CHADWICK (NZ Labour—Rotorua) 
: 
 I rise to support this bill. I have listened to the speeches in the House. I have to say that when people have got passionate and strayed off the patch here they have all talked about young people. That is one thing that has made me quite sad in that young people are being stigmatised by this bill. I think what councils have to do—and we have to take great caution—is consider the needs of young people with the enaction of this bill which I do support. I think councils need to look to their youth policy and give young people a place to go where they can have fun. 
I support this bill because I am an electorate MP and I have had many people come to me really concerned about what is happening on the streets down at the lakefront on high-density roads and it is for that reason that I support this bill. I would never stigmatise our police either who were looking for an excuse to take people who know what they are doing on the roads away from them. I am proud to support this bill. It has not been rushed through. It has taken 3 years since it was first introduced.
Vote: Prisoners' and Victims' Claims Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Vote: Prisoners' and Victims' Claims Bill — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:626;Page:20950] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 53 
New Zealand National 26; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 6; United Future 8. 
Noes 62 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Marc Alexander to clause 4 be agreed to: 
to insert in its appropriate alphabetical order the following definition:  
restricted period 
 means the period beginning on 31 May 2005 and ending on the close of 31 May 2007 or until the enactment of legislation which restricts the awarding of compensation sought by specified claims in the House of Representatives whichever occurs first.
Vote: Employment Relations Law Reform Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Employment Relations Law Reform Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:620;Page:16148] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; United Future 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand Labour 51; Green Party 9; Progressive 2; Maori Party 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 273 in the name of Dr Wayne Mapp to section 59A(2) to (6) in clause 19 be agreed to.
Motions — Mr Bright Williams 
Motions — Mr Bright Williams 
[Volume:606;Page:3473] 
Motions 
Mr Bright Williams 
Hon KEN SHIRLEY (Deputy Leader—ACT NZ) 
: 
 I move  
That this House records its sadness at the passing of Mr Bright Williams the last survivor of 100444 New Zealanders who left this country to serve in the First World War and acknowledges the sacrifices that they made 
. 
Motion agreed to.
Ward Mike: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Ward Mike: Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:608;Page:5388] 
MIKE WARD (Green) 
: 
 I rise to support the Customs and Excise (Alcoholic Beverages) Amendment Bill on behalf of the Green Party. It will not solve the whole drinking problem of our young people but it is a good move in the right direction. I support all the other measures that the Opposition is talking about. Yes education is needed. I would support that and any measure that those members might come up with that would tell our youngsters to treat the stuff wisely. But this bill closes a loophole that needs to be closed and we will support the closing of that loophole. Our youngsters do not need cheap booze. The rhetoric on the Opposition side of the House defies belief. The quality of the debate when the House sits as late as this is appalling so I will not continue. We will support the bill.
Prebble Richard: Terrorism Suppression Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Prebble Richard: Terrorism Suppression Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
[Volume:626;Page:21636] 
Hon RICHARD PREBBLE (ACT) 
: 
 Mr Locke has correctly told the Committee that the Green Party is the only party that is now opposing this bill so I listened and tried to find out whether he has a coherent position. I have to say to him that I do not think his position is coherent. I even went back to look at his earlier arguments when he voted against the original bill. [ 
Interruption 
] Oh yes and when he voted against the original bill he stated that his reasons were that he did not like the designation of terrorist groups around the world by countries like the United States. 
I have to say to him that I think his motivation for this bill is that he is fixated about the United States. I think he thinks that anything the United States does is somehow evil and wrong and he is one of those people who thinks that the United States brought it on itself that the World Trade Center bombings occurred. I actually think that that is his position and has been right the way through his whole life. I find it interesting that the Green Party which has managed to sell itself to the country as being an environmental organisation is actually carrying within it a person like Mr Locke who I have never heard make a speech about the environment. All I hear from him are rabid speeches against the United States against capitalism against things that most New Zealanders— 
Hon Member 
: Watermelon party. 
Hon RICHARD PREBBLE 
: The member likes to say how sincere he is on these matters but I do not think he is sincere. If he were sincere he would be prepared to tell us that the reason he is not supporting this bill is that he does support the objectives of various terrorist organisations; he most certainly does. He can say that he does not remember or that he was misconstrued when he wrote stories about Pol Pot. Right throughout his whole life he has done that. He may not like it— 
Keith Locke 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. On previous occasions members have been forced to withdraw and apologise for trying to say that I supported Pol Pot. The reference here has that definite implication and I would ask the member to withdraw and apologise. 
Hon RICHARD PREBBLE 
: Again we have been through this before. I have tabled the papers before. I am happy to see whether I can find them. I will have to borrow Winston Peters’ papers I think. I am certain I can find them again. I most certainly am not prepared to withdraw the accusation I am making against him. 
Keith Locke 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. It has been established and I can get the dates that members have withdrawn and apologised for this very reason—on the assurance from me that I have never supported Pol Pot and his crimes.
Wilson Margaret: National Library of New Zealand (Te Puna MAtauranga o Aotearoa) Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH 
Wilson Margaret: National Library of New Zealand (Te Puna MAtauranga o Aotearoa) Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH 
[Volume:607;Page:4933] 
Hon MARGARET WILSON (Attorney-General) 
 on behalf of the 
 Minister responsible for the National Library 
: I move  
That it be an instruction to the Committee of the whole House on the National Library of New Zealand (Te Puna Matauranga o Aotearoa) Bill that it take the bill part by part and consider any schedules as one question. 
Motion agreed to.
Heatley Phil: Animal Products (Dairy Products and Other Matters) Bill — Second Reading 
Heatley Phil: Animal Products (Dairy Products and Other Matters) Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:623;Page:18861] 
PHIL HEATLEY (National—Whangarei) 
: 
 The National Party will be supporting this bill. We appreciated being able to participate in the select committee process and to ask the intelligent questions at the committee. Labour members—who do not have any constituent MPs who represent rural or provincial New Zealand—were unaware of the issues facing the dairy industry. National members were able to talk to people in the dairy industry about what is familiar to us and what is familiar to them as an industry. 
Debate interrupted.
Newman Muriel: Smoke-free Environments (Exemptions) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Newman Muriel: Smoke-free Environments (Exemptions) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:627;Page:22085] 
Dr MURIEL NEWMAN (Deputy Leader—ACT) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. Can you just clarify that the motion that this bill be referred to the Commerce Committee occurs after the vote if the vote is successful. Is that right? 
Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: That is right.
Jones Dail: Points of Order — Australian Aviator Mr Jon Johanson 
Jones Dail: Points of Order — Australian Aviator Mr Jon Johanson 
[Volume:614;Page:10653] 
DAIL JONES (NZ First) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. It is the time of Christmas and I think that you should perhaps take some action to try to record this House’s disgust at the way in which the Government is treating this matter. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The member will be opening his Christmas presents a little early if he is not careful.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
[Volume:609;Page:6625] 
GERRY BROWNLEE (NZ National—Ilam) 
: 
 Could the Leader of the House give us some indication of when the Responsible Gambling Bill might come into the House? He may remember that I asked this question during the last parliamentary sitting. A number of organisations around the country have applications pending. My understanding is that those applications are not being processed currently at the rate they should be because of the industry expecting changes to come. Although some of us do not approve of those it would be interesting to know when the House might get around to dealing with this particular issue.
Points of Order — Prime Minister—Replies to Written Questions Nos 17295 and 17296 
Points of Order — Prime Minister—Replies to Written Questions Nos 17295 and 17296 
[Volume:622;Page:17673] 
Points of Order 
Prime Minister—Replies to Written Questions Nos 17295 and 17296 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I seek leave to table two documents. They relate to written questions to the Prime Minister that were lodged on 29 November and are the two answers received on 7 December in which she argues that the matter of car registrations is sub judice. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table those two answers. Is there any objection? There is.
Vote: Television New Zealand Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Television New Zealand Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:606;Page:3808] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 60 
Noes 57 
Motion agreed to. 
Labour 52; United Future 8. 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; Green Party 9. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Katherine Rich to the amendment to clause 26(1) set out on Supplementary Order Paper 57 in the name of the Hon Steve Maharey be agreed to: 
to add the following paragraph: 
(d)a statement of how much locally produced programming is intended to be screened.
Vote: Debate on Prime Minister’s Statement 
Vote: Debate on Prime Minister’s Statement 
[Volume:615;Page:11020] 
A party vote was called for on the question That this House has no confidence in the Labour-led Governmentbecause that Government has no policies to raise New Zealand’s living standards back to the mid part of the OECD; it complacently accepts more than 300000 working-age adults being dependent on benefits and it continues down the dangerous road of promoting policies that treat New Zealanders differently on the basis of their race. 
Ayes 49 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Noes 71 
New Zealand Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Motion not agreed to.
Laban Luamanuvao Winnie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Laban Luamanuvao Winnie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 16 June 2004. Volume:618;Page:13629. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
3.  
LUAMANUVAO WINNIE LABAN (Labour—Mana) 
 to the  
Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade 
: Has he received any reports relating to the legislation prohibiting nuclear-powered ships visiting New Zealand? 
Hon PHIL GOFF (Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade) 
: 
 Yes I have this morning seen a report from a political party stating that it now will not make any decision about repealing the nuclear-free legislation before the election and that it will consult the voters. That is the public position of the National Party but I have no idea at all of what Dr Brash might have promised in secret in Washington on his recent visit there. 
Luamanuvao Winnie Laban 
: What factors are relevant to the New Zealand Government’s position on this issue? 
Hon PHIL GOFF 
: Although it is unclear what the National Party may do this Government is absolutely unequivocal about this issue. It believes that New Zealand should remain nuclear-free and notes that over a long period of time the New Zealand public by a ratio of about 2:1 has consistently supported that position. What is more this Government believes that any decision on our nuclear-free status ought to be made in this country according to our judgment and values and not what some other country or countries may be telling us to do.
Hartley Ann: Taxation (Annual Rates GST Trans-Tasman Imputation and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Hartley Ann: Taxation (Annual Rates GST Trans-Tasman Imputation and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:613;Page:10113] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: The amendments to Part 2 in the name of Rod Donald on Supplementary Order Paper 171 have been vetoed. 
Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Carter Chris: Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — In Committee 
Carter Chris: Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8722] 
Hon CHRIS CARTER (Minister of Conservation) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Yates Dianne: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
Yates Dianne: Gambling Bill — Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee 
[Volume:611;Page:8462] 
DIANNE YATES (NZ Labour—Hamilton East) 
: 
 Part 1 gives the definitions. As we have said this bill defines the various forms of gambling and as is usual in a bill Part 1 is basically the defining part. There are two important issues that I want to talk about. 
One is the word “casino”. Throughout this bill we have made it absolutely clear what a casino is because there are many establishments around the country calling themselves casinos and that is very confusing to people. There are casinos casino bars and an amazing number of gambling outlets calling themselves casinos. One of the points that the Government Administration Committee wanted to make absolutely clear is that “casino” applies only to what is defined in this bill and is not the generic name for any gambling outlet. Other gambling outlets will have a period of time in which to give themselves another name and they will not be covered by the casino part of the legislation. 
The other point that I think is very important is the definition of “territorial authority”. I have heard it said in the Committee today that local government will have no say. The important thing in this bill is that local government does have a say. Local government bodies should already have been planning for this bill and be working on their gambling plans. It is not correct to say that local government does not have a say. The select committee was very careful also to outline whom local government bodies should consult when establishing their plans and to make sure that they did consult their communities of interest. 
So I just wanted to point out two things in the definition clause: firstly a casino is a casino and not any gambling establishment—a cafe or casino bar that has pokie machines cannot call itself a casino—and secondly local government is in the bill under the definition of “territorial authority”.
Vote: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Vote: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Volume:621;Page:17122] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment to the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 10 
Green Party 9; Maori Party 1. 
Noes 107 
New Zealand Labour 51; New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 6; United Future 8; Progressive 2. 
Amendment to the amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Metiria Turei to the amendment to clause 89 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 302 in the name of the Hon Dr Michael Cullen be agreed to: 
to omit from new section 85A of the principal Act the words “a significant” and substitute the word “an”.
Hunt Jonathan: Points of Order — Privilege—Hon Harry Duynhoven 
Hunt Jonathan: Points of Order — Privilege—Hon Harry Duynhoven 
[Volume:610;Page:7292] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Obviously I am going to wait until the Privileges Committee reports. I will then consider its report and consider what has to be done. The Speaker will then make a decision in the light of the Privileges Committee report and on the basis of the law as it exists at the time. I can assure the member that I will follow the law.
Cullen Michael: Securities Legislation Bill — First Reading 
Cullen Michael: Securities Legislation Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:622;Page:18053] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Minister of Finance) 
: 
 I move  
That the Securities Legislation Bill be referred to the Commerce Committee. 
referred to Commerce Committee
Burton Mark: Civil Union Bill — In Committee Procedure 
Burton Mark: Civil Union Bill — In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:622;Page:17574] 
Hon MARK BURTON (Deputy Leader of the House) 
: 
 I think perhaps the pertinent point is that where the situation was clear as it was with the vote we have just retaken then the appropriate action was taken. I am not aware of any other vote that is affected similarly. For my part as one of the parties affected by that last vote—I had just arrived in the Chamber so it was in fact the first vote that had taken place while I was present—I am certainly not aware of any other specific case affected. However the matter has clearly been drawn to the attention of members. Having had that reminder I am sure it will assist them to vote in an appropriate manner in future votes.
Paraone Pita: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
Paraone Pita: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:613;Page:9986] 
PITA PARAONE (NZ First) 
: 
 I want to speak in relation to my Supplementary Order Paper 92 which affects section 23A(1)(h) in clause 8A. It refers to the use of the Maori language as part of the warning signage to be added to smoking products. In proposing this Supplementary Order Paper I do so in the knowledge that firstly Maori is one of two official languages in this country and secondly smoking affects a lot of my relatives and indeed those in the Maori community. It seems to me that if this bill is to come into law then it is only appropriate that the warnings should be indicated in both English and Maori. The words that I would like to have added are: “Ka mate koe i te kai hikareti”. I notice that the interpreter has come back into the Chamber and is among the officials who could help with this bill. 
The reason I support this Supplementary Order Paper is not because I myself am a Maori but because it is important that we convey to a community that is a large consumer of tobacco products the dangers to one’s health of smoking. With regard to the poor status of Maori health much of it can be attributed to smoking. I take on board the comments made by speakers who have stood before me and I agree in principle with what they have said. I think it is important that we append this warning in Maori. I know that a subsequent Supplementary Order Paper may go a little bit further than my one but I certainly seek the support of the sponsor of this bill for my Supplementary Order Paper. If we are able to do that then at least we will fulfil our social obligations not only to one part of our community but also to New Zealand. 
I know that a lot of the returned servicemen whom people have alluded to tonight are Maori. This issue probably affects them more than a lot of the younger generation. Those Maori soldiers who went to war during the Second World War were fluent Maori speakers and their first language was Maori. Those who are still alive and still smoke would appreciate that while they would probably have ignored the message they would have appreciated having their language appended to such products. 
Rodney Hide 
: What differences will it make? 
PITA PARAONE 
: Perhaps they may get a clearer understanding of the effects of smoking on their health. The hope is that that is the difference it would make. 
Rodney Hide 
: If they read it in Maori will it make a difference? 
PITA PARAONE 
: They will not only read it Maori but have a better understanding of the effects of smoking on their health. That is the point. That is what the warning is all about—to communicate to those who decide to smoke the effects that smoking will have on their health. Kia ora.
Vote: Criminal Procedure (Mentally Impaired Persons) Bill — Third Reading 
Vote: Criminal Procedure (Mentally Impaired Persons) Bill — Third Reading 
[Volume:612;Page:9558] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Criminal Procedure (Mentally Impaired Persons) Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand Labour 52; Green Party 9; United Future 8. 
Noes 48 
New Zealand National 27; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 8. 
Bill read a third time.
Smith Nick: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Question No. 5 to Minister Questions to Members 
Smith Nick: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Question No. 5 to Minister Questions to Members 
[Volume:607;Page:4973] 
1. Hon Dr NICK SMITH (NZ National—Nelson) 
 to the  
Chairperson of the Local Government and Environment Committee 
: Has a meeting of the Local Government and Environment Committee been set to consider its inquiry into the alleged accidental release of genetically engineered sweetcorn plants in 2000 and the subsequent action taken? 
JEANETTE FITZSIMONS (Chairperson of the Local Government and Environment Committee): 
 The committee has a scheduled meeting tomorrow morning at which this issue will be considered. We will be meeting with the adviser. 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: Has any conflict of interest been declared by any member of the committee in respect of this inquiry? 
JEANETTE FITZSIMONS 
: In respect of this inquiry no.
Smith Nick: Resource Management (Waitaki Catchment) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Smith Nick: Resource Management (Waitaki Catchment) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:619;Page:15347] 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson) 
:  
I make a strong plea to this House to back good honest Government and to honour the pledges made to the community of the upper Waitaki River at the time that the huge developments took place in the 1960s. It is very clear from the evidence provided to the Local Government and Environment Committee that commitments were made by former Ministers to that community. Members on the Opposition side of the House want to ensure that those commitments are honoured. 
I challenge the member of Parliament who represents that community Mr Jim Sutton to take a call—he is in the Chamber—and to support his constituents. I have met with hundreds of his constituents who would have liked— 
Clayton Cosgrove 
: Name them. 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH 
: Stan Scorringe plus a whole lot of others if Clayton Cosgrove is bothered. Will that member and more important will Mr Sutton back his constituents and ensure that the commitments to that community are honoured? Quite frankly if this Government was up to the job the support for that community would be in the bill. The Government has chosen not to provide for that and that is why I ask all the parties in this Parliament to support the amendment in my name which will ensure that when the board comes to allocate the waters of the Waitaki River it will be required to take into account the commitments to that community. 
 I would suggest to Mr Jim Sutton that if he is not prepared to back his community on something as basic as that then next year he will be a goner. 
Brian Connell 
: He’s retiring anyway. 
Hon Dr NICK SMITH 
: Well he is retiring anyway said Mr Connell and maybe he is retiring because he knows that the guillotine is fast approaching. This is a serious issue. It is a serious issue because the job of a constituency member is to back his or her people and Mr Sutton is choosing to put the Labour Government ahead of the interests of the Aoraki people. I want him to listen to good effective people like Mayor Stan Scorringe who alongside many others whom I could list has very effectively advocated for that community on the reasons that this amendment is required to this part of the bill. 
I also want to challenge United Future. Those members know in their heart of hearts that what has occurred in the Mackenzie Basin is wrong and requires legislative correction and it would be a shame if they too joined Jim Sutton voted against this amendment and went against what they know to be right for the Mackenzie Basin community. All we are asking is that the commitments made to that community by former Ministers in the 1960s are honoured and that where communities have accepted commitments in good faith those commitments are honoured when it comes to the allocation of the Waitaki River’s water.
Mark Ron: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Second Reading 
Mark Ron: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Second Reading 
[Volume:612;Page:9146] 
RON MARK (NZ First) 
: 
 I rise to indicate first that New Zealand First will be supporting the passage of this bill as I think all sane-minded New Zealanders would want us to do. This bill is one of those bills on which we can play politics for quite some considerable time and the temptation arises right now to remind people— 
Hon Matt Robson 
: You’re pretty good at that. 
RON MARK 
 The member cannot resist can he. I have to congratulate certain members in the Government. They have really come a long way and this bill probably indicates their maturing. I recall being a young soldier in Anzac Day parades when certain members of the Labour Party were activists in peace movements and were vigorously expressing their points of view on defence issues. They were taking it out on servicemen who had done precisely what their country had required them to do; they were spitting throwing paint throwing themselves down in front of servicemen who were marching abusing them their families and their children abusing anyone as a “baby bayoneter” and doing those sorts of things. 
Hon Lianne Dalziel 
: That’s not true. Stop making it up. 
RON MARK 
: Lianne Dalziel says I am making it up. 
Hon Lianne Dalziel 
: I didn’t throw myself in front of servicemen. 
RON MARK 
: I did not say you did Lianne Dalziel. She is a little sensitive.
Brownlee Gerry: Points of Order — Messages from Governor-General 
Brownlee Gerry: Points of Order — Messages from Governor-General 
[Volume:617;Page:13449] 
GERRY BROWNLEE (Deputy Leader—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. This is Parliament. It is not the play place of the Governor-General and it is not the place for a Government just to ride roughshod over the process that occurs here. I wonder whether you might be able to tell us of another recent occasion where the moneys for a purpose were appropriated immediately after a bill’s first reading. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: The money is not appropriated at this stage. It is recommended and it always has been that way.
Vote: Health (National Cervical Screening Programme) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Health (National Cervical Screening Programme) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:615;Page:11282] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 9 
Green Party 9. 
Noes 108 
New Zealand Labour 52; New Zealand National 25; New Zealand First 13; ACT New Zealand 7; United Future 8; Progressive 2; Independent: Awatere Huata. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the remaining amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 184 in the name of Hon Annette King to clause 4 be agreed to and that the following amendment in her name be agreed to: 
to omit from subsection (2) of section 1122AA in clause 4 the word “provided” in each case where it appears and substitute in each case the words “made available”.
Maharey Steve: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members Question No. 7 to Minister  
Maharey Steve: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members Question No. 7 to Minister  
[Volume:620;Page:15386] 
Hon STEVE MAHAREY (Associate Minister of Education (Tertiary Education)) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek your advice if I can on question No. 7. Mr Bill English asked leave of the House to table a letter concerning delivery by Unitec of Site Safe courses. In the course of that request he made allegations of blackmail against Unitec. The institution of course is deeply concerned that it has been accused in this way and I am asking for your guidance as to when he has to table that letter. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: By 10 o’clock this evening—[ 
Interruption 
]—if he wishes. I am sorry. He does not have to table it. He tables it if he wishes by 10 o’clock this evening.
Baldock Larry: Wool Industry Restructuring Bill — Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
Baldock Larry: Wool Industry Restructuring Bill — Second Reading Instruction to CommitteeCWH In Committee Third Reading 
[Volume:609;Page:7126] 
LARRY BALDOCK (United Future) 
: 
 I rise on behalf of United Future to express our support for this third reading of the Wool Industry Restructuring Bill and to make just a few brief comments. It has been heartening to see the cross-party support throughout this phase. Although we have not had a person on the select committee I know that the committee members worked very hard and I commend them today for the way they have addressed the particularly complex issues within this bill. Nothing is ever perfect but I believe that the House has done the best job possible today to deliver the best legislation we can to protect the interests of woolgrowers and move them forward into the 21st century. I thank the officials for their hard work. 
As I said in my second reading speech I look forward to further clarification in the transition phase for Wool Equities so that the growers will have an opportunity to express their commitment to the new board members at some stage in the future preferably at the next annual general meeting. I believe they should exercise that option and responsibility. It is now however in the hands of the Minister as this bill is passed to ensure that that takes place. United Future is happy to support the bill.
Tizard Judith: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) — First Reading 
Tizard Judith: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) — First Reading 
[Volume:616;Page:12398] 
Hon JUDITH TIZARD (Minister of Consumer Affairs) 
 on behalf of the 
 Minister of Fisheries 
: I move  
That the Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) be considered by the Primary Production Committee that it be an instruction to the committee in its consideration of the bill that it divide the provisions relating to the introduction of scampi into the quota management system from the bill to form a separate bill to be reported to the House by 22 June 2004 and that the remaining provisions of the bill be reported to the House by 27 July 2004 and that the committee have the authority to meet at any time while the House is sitting except during oral questions during any evening on a day on which there has been a sitting of the House on a Friday in a week in which there has been a sitting of the House and outside the Wellington area during the sitting of the House notwithstanding Standing Orders 191 193(a) and 194(1)(b) and (c).
Roy Heather: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
Roy Heather: Smoke-free Environments Amendment Bill — Procedure Referral to Health Committee In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled  Speaker Recalled In Committee Procedure 
[Volume:613;Page:10001] 
HEATHER ROY (ACT) 
: 
 I seek the leave of the Committee to have one speech on Part 3. I am the ACT health spokesperson. I was on the select committee that heard the submissions and undertook the clause by clause analysis of this bill. I have not had the opportunity to speak on this bill at all this evening. Despite seeking the call at the end of the debate on Part 2 I was not called to speak and despite seeking the call for almost an hour and a half I have not had the opportunity to speak on Part 3 either. I think it is imperative that the health spokesperson for each party has the opportunity to speak. I seek the leave of the Committee to do that. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is.