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Vote: Callaghan Innovation Bill — Third Reading 
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Vote: Callaghan Innovation Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7028. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Callaghan Innovation Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 105 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Bill read a third time.
Simpson Scott: Callaghan Innovation Bill — Third Reading 
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Simpson Scott: Callaghan Innovation Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7027. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel) 
: 
 What a pleasure it is to stand and take a short call on this the Callaghan Innovation Bill. What a remarkable piece of legislation by a Government that is committed to growth to industry to innovation to science and to creating high-paying jobs for honest hard-working Kiwis. 
It has been interesting to listen to the members of the Opposition flailing around trying hard to find reasons not to support this very good idea. I am very pleased that Labour Party members actually do support it although you would not feel that or understand that given the calibre and quality of their speeches. The Green Party of course is against science and innovation and it just does not want a part of it at all. 
But $166 million is going into Callaghan Innovation because we as a National Government understand that collaboration growth and science are an important mix in combination and together given the right incubator the right opportunity they can come together to create high-paying jobs and high-value manufacturing opportunities such as exist in my electorate at organisations like Triodent. There are people in my electorate like Basil Morrison for instance who understand the connection and the mix that it is important to have in science and innovation and that high-value job creation is the key to success for our country. 
Jobs depend on businesses being competitive—businesses that sell something that make something that have services and that have innovation as their very fundamental core. Those businesses need to be unique they need to be producing quality services and products and they need to be fairly priced and able to compete internationally in the global market place. 
This is a proud and historic day for this Parliament as we pass this legislation because in years to come this bill will see the foundation stone of a great new innovative collaboration in our country. I commend this bill to the House with great vigour.
Roy Eric: Callaghan Innovation Bill — Third Reading 
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Roy Eric: Callaghan Innovation Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7025. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Five minutes—Sue Moroney.
O'Connor Simon: Callaghan Innovation Bill — Third Reading 
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O'Connor Simon: Callaghan Innovation Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7024. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
SIMON O’CONNOR (National—Tamaki) 
: 
 I want to step away from this conspiracy-driven Chicken Little approach from the Opposition today and I want to particularly add voice to what is actually a very successful research industry in New Zealand realising that the research that Kiwis do already is exactly what this institute is wanting to work with. I mentioned in one of the earlier speeches around this bill the Callaghan Innovation Bill that the institute works as a conduit and that is why the bill has speedily gone through—the concepts are relatively easy to grasp—and why the fundamentals are still going to be worked out by the board. It is fairly appropriate and normal in a situation like this. 
Once again I just want to draw attention to the great research that is being done by Kiwis. I had the great pleasure of joining a friend of mine at the Prime Minister’s Science Prizes where he was awarded the Prime Minister’s MacDiarmid Emerging Scientist Prize—Dr James Russell. Amazing stuff he does in statistics ecology and genetics. Other friends of mine are doing their postdoctoral research here in New Zealand be it in engineering electrical engineering genetics physiology or ophthalmology; these are just people whom I know—through Auckland University in particular—who are doing amazing research already. 
This is not an environment where everything is falling to pieces. These are Kiwis with great brains great minds who have taken the opportunity to study. They do not all stand there expecting the Government to hand out at every time they complain but they are people who also want to stay in this country support this country and take that innovation into a commercial sense. 
The context of this bill is positivity. This country has great researchers it has great minds it has great Kiwis and they are the Kiwis who want to stay here— 
Tracey Martin 
: Good eels. 
SIMON O’CONNOR 
: —and who want Tracey Martin to make the widgets to use your quote. They want to stay here and they want this institute. It is a great concept. It is a conduit from research into business. Let us pass this bill and get on with it.
Vote: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7009. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1. 
Bill read a first time.
Smith Lockwood: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
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Smith Lockwood: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7009. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I am prepared under the circumstances to go back but I stress to the House that this is purely a procedural matter. Members have hours to debate the financial reviews. This is purely a vote to get the House in a position to be able to debate the financial reviews. If members want a party vote on that so be it. Let me go back then and put the question again.
Woodhouse Michael: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
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Woodhouse Michael: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7009. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Just in support of the musterer for the Greens I did see his lips moving very clearly calling for a party vote through the noise. So there is no doubt in my mind that that was his intention.
Smith Lockwood: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
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Smith Lockwood: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7008. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I must make the point that just because a member votes No does not mean a party vote will be held. A member must call for a party vote.
Mallard Trevor: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
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Mallard Trevor: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7008. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The member called No as the member I am assured did because he was heard by members this far away if not your distance away. I am not sure whether he called for a party vote. But given the hubbub I think it would be reasonable for a vote to be held.
Smith Lockwood: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
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Smith Lockwood: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7008. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Well the House can go back. The Speaker has already announced the result of the first reading. Does the House wish me to go back? It is purely procedural. The vote is put without debate and it is something that is standard. I think the House really can proceed. There will be plenty of opportunity to debate these issues.
Hughes Gareth: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
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Hughes Gareth: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7008. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
GARETH HUGHES (Musterer—Green) 
: 
 With the closing of question time there was all the kerfuffle in the Chamber and you could not hear. I yelled it out pretty loudly. So I urge that the Green Party vote can be recorded on this matter.
Smith Lockwood: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
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Smith Lockwood: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7008. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The question is that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye to the contrary No. The Ayes have it. This bill is set down for second reading next sitting day. 
Gareth Hughes 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! I did not hear the member call. This is purely procedural. I do not think it is the end of the world.
English Bill: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
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English Bill: Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7008. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) 
: 
 I move  
That the Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill be now read a first time.
Smith Lockwood: Points of Order — Brendan Horan—Inquiry into Allegations Against Member and Expulsion from Party 
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Smith Lockwood: Points of Order — Brendan Horan—Inquiry into Allegations Against Member and Expulsion from Party 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 






Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Peters Winston: Points of Order — Brendan Horan—Inquiry into Allegations Against Member and Expulsion from Party 
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Peters Winston: Points of Order — Brendan Horan—Inquiry into Allegations Against Member and Expulsion from Party 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7007. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 I seek leave to make a serious statement to the House and not a long one at that. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Identifying the matter so the House knows exactly. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: Identifying the substance and result of an inquiry into the allegations made about Brendan Horan MP. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: I thank the House. In recent weeks a number of allegations have been made against Mr Horan most of which arise from a family matter. The allegations are of a nature that requires that they should be treated seriously. Accordingly I requested from the original complainant and those associated with him evidence to support their allegations. I also instructed Mr Horan to give every priority to resolving this family matter so that I could be assured that those allegations were without foundation. Until a few days ago we had not been furnished with any evidentiary material from any of the parties in this dispute. However substantive material has now come into my possession some as recent as 2.15 p.m. this afternoon. The information we have received leaves me in a position where I have no confidence in Mr Horan’s ability to continue as a member of Parliament and he will be expelled from the New Zealand First caucus forthwith. Mr Horan has a duty I believe to resign as a member of Parliament. Lastly this is a bitterly regrettable situation but we had to place our decision on the public record as soon as we were in a position to make it. The nature of this inquiry means that I am unable to make any further comment outside of Parliament. I seek leave to table this statement.
Smith Lockwood: Points of Order — Brendan Horan—Inquiry into Allegations Against Member and Expulsion from Party 
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Smith Lockwood: Points of Order — Brendan Horan—Inquiry into Allegations Against Member and Expulsion from Party 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7007. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is—[ 
Interruption 
] I think it is probably more appropriate for the member himself to seek leave to make a statement to the House.
Banks John: Points of Order — Brendan Horan—Inquiry into Allegations Against Member and Expulsion from Party 
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Banks John: Points of Order — Brendan Horan—Inquiry into Allegations Against Member and Expulsion from Party 
[Sitting date: 04 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7007. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon JOHN BANKS (Leader—ACT) 
: 
 I would seek leave of the House for the Rt Hon Winston Peters to make a statement to the House.
Hayes John: Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill — First Reading 
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Hayes John: Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6985. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
JOHN HAYES (National—Wairarapa) 
: 
 The last three speeches from Opposition members have demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of what the Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill is about and I have got to say that they have not read it. Can I say to the New Zealand First member who has just spoken Andrew Williams that if he wants to make changes to this bill the smart thing to do is to come and support it through to the select committee process and contribute to the collective wisdom of the House to get the legislation changed. 
The fact is that this legislation fits one of the four priorities of this term of Government particularly that of building a more competitive and productive economy. The centrepiece of the Budget in 2010 was a major tax package reforming the tax system to make it fairer and more sustainable and providing better support for economic growth. That is what this bill does and I support it totally.
Roy Eric: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Roy Eric: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6972. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: This is a split call—5 minutes.
Dean Jacqui: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Dean Jacqui: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6965. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki) 
: 
 The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill provides clarity around the role of councils. It provides for stronger governance. It provides for improved efficiency and more responsible financial management by local authorities. The reforms in this bill are intended to sharpen councils’ focus on what they appropriately provide rather than the wide-reaching responsibilities brought in by the 2002 Act. This Government is drawing the focus back to providing local infrastructure local public services and regulatory functions. 
The new purpose of the Local Government Act has been much debated both in this House and during the select committee process. So I want to remind the House of section 12(2)—members opposite might care to have a look at that for the first time—of the 2002 Act which says: “For the purposes of performing its role a local authority has—(a) full capacity to carry on or undertake any activity or business do any act or enter into any transaction;”. Sections 11 and 12 are not amended by this bill. The contention that local authorities will be prevented from undertaking new activities or litigated endlessly are simply not true. They will however after consulting with their communities be able to continue supporting activities like their community house albeit with an enhanced weather eye on its ongoing cost and impact on its ratepaying community. 
The debate on this bill particularly in the Committee stage has taken on a Chicken Little aspect. If one believes the Opposition the sky is about to fall in on local government. I can tell New Zealand First the Greens and what is left of Labour that it will not. Although I can accept that the spendthrifts opposite cannot get their heads around the need to focus on the provisions of good local infrastructure regulatory functions and public services this Government can. Local government like central government needs to deliver better services for New Zealand within tight financial constraints. When talking to the president of Local Government New Zealand last night Lawrence Yule I was assured that local authorities will be getting on with it and good on them. 
I want to finish by acknowledging and thanking Nicky Wagner the chair of the Local Government and Environment Committee—she is unable to be here today; I am probably not allowed to say that—for her excellent work in shepherding this bill not only through the House but also through the select committee. Thank you.
Smith Lockwood: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
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Smith Lockwood: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6952. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! I ask members leaving the House please to do so a little more quietly.
Vote: Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6987. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 112 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; Mana 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 8 
New Zealand First 8. 
Bill read a first time. 
Bill referred to the Finance and Expenditure Committee.
Robertson H V Ross: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Robertson H V Ross: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6960. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Order! Is the member seeking leave? Is there any objection to that course of action? [ 
Interruption 
] I am asking the question. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is.
Twyford Phil: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Twyford Phil: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6960. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
PHIL TWYFORD (Labour—Te Atatu) 
: 
 I seek the leave of the House to table some correspondence between the Hon Annette King and the Hon David Carter in which the Hon David Carter says “as noted on the website this was because there were issues with data”—
Bennett David: Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill — First Reading 
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Bennett David: Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6987. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East) 
: 
 It is good to see that most parties are supporting this and I would have to agree with Trevor that I think New Zealand First has got it completely wrong here— 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Who? 
DAVID BENNETT 
: —Trevor Mallard—in not supporting the Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill. There is a problem in the tax system in this area. This is a capital gains tax. It is one of the few capital gains taxes that we actually have in our system. Effectively normally when you pay tax it is on profit which is revenue minus expenses. But when it comes to livestock there is a capital gains tax in our system now. There were different valuation mechanisms that have been used effectively for some people to not pay tax and to reduce their tax liability. So it needs to be changed. 
This is a good bill. It is in the right interests of New Zealand and the industry. It does show the difficulty that when you try to put capital gains taxes on like the Labour and Green parties want to you do set up a system that people will try to use to their advantage. Thank you.
Goldsmith Paul: Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill — First Reading 
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Goldsmith Paul: Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6982. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
PAUL GOLDSMITH (National) 
: 
 I want to take just a very short call on this the Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill. One of the Government’s four priorities for this term is building a more competitive and productive economy and part of that is having an effective tax system. Only by lifting our economic performance can we create jobs boost incomes improve living standards and provide the world-class public services that Kiwi families need. This bill promotes fairness and integrity across the tax system and strengthens our economy by doing just that. 
I will not go into the details but it is building on the livestock valuation rules in the Budget 2012 legislation tightening the rules for deducting the cost of assets—I see we have widespread support for that across the House—and also changing the timing periods for claiming refunds. Any successful economy has an efficient tax system and this is a bill that is doing a number of small things that are keeping the tax collectors one step ahead of the more inventive of our fellow citizens who are out there trying to do their best. I commend this bill to the House. Thank you.
Upston Louise: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
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Upston Louise: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6954. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupo) 
: 
 I am pleased to take the final call on the State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill. Minister Coleman the Minister in charge of this bill very widely covered what this bill does cover but I just wanted to cover a couple of things that this bill does not do. 
Unfortunately we have seen many examples this week of Labour members of Parliament who are innumerate and cannot count. We have also seen New Zealand First members who are illiterate and cannot read. My colleague David Bennett has already mentioned the fact that there is a clause in the bill that has been there for many many years and unfortunately Andrew Williams the member for New Zealand First cannot read and completely missed that point. So it does not make any changes to what the Prime Minister can do. 
The other area the Labour members have been severely disillusioned about and completely off the planet on is changes to the estimates scrutiny process or the financial review process. There are no changes to that. The Standing Orders of the Parliament are what dictates the scrutiny for Parliament. This bill does not make any changes at all to the estimates and the financial review scrutiny. It also does not affect any of the timing of when those reviews take place. 
I am happy with those few points about what the bill does not do because if you had heard the debate yesterday you would have thought otherwise. But it is just more scaremongering from that side of the House. I am proud of this bill. I am proud of making our public services better and more efficient and delivering more to hard-working New Zealanders.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6937. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 When the House resumes on Tuesday 4 December the Government will look to pass the Callaghan Innovation Bill and a number of first readings on the Order Paper including the Family Court Proceedings Reform Bill and the Public Finance (Fiscal Responsibility) Amendment Bill. With the agreement of the Business Committee there will be extended sittings on Tuesday 4 December and Wednesday 5 December effective on the mornings of Wednesday 5 December and Thursday 6 December to progress a number of non-controversial bills agreed by the Business Committee. On Thursday afternoon Parliament will continue the Committee stage of the Alcohol Reform Bill. Wednesday is a members’ day.
Robertson H V Ross: Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill — First Reading 
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Robertson H V Ross: Taxation (Livestock Valuation Assets Expenditure and Remedial Matters) Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6985. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: This is a split call as I understand it.
Robertson H V Ross: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
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Robertson H V Ross: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6953. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Just before I call the next speaker I advise the House that this is actually a split call. We got a little bit out of kilter so it should have been called from another side but in this case it has already happened.
Stewart Barbara: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Stewart Barbara: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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11. 
BARBARA STEWART (NZ First) 
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Associate Minister of Health 
: Is he satisfied with current mental health services in New Zealand? 
Hon PETER DUNNE (Associate Minister of Health) 
: 
 Yes I am. Although I believe we should always strive for improvement I have got the utmost respect for the work that is being done by our mental health professionals in what is a highly complex field. 
Barbara Stewart 
: How can he be satisfied with mental health services when we have seen many cases recently of mental health unit outpatients committing serious crimes and committing suicide yet district health boards are usually underspent in this area? 
Hon PETER DUNNE 
: With regard to the incidence of suicide that the member refers to last year’s figures were an unusual blip and in fact the trend line revealed this year shows a much lower rate. I am not satisfied with any suicides in those situations but obviously events like that will occur from time to time. 
Barbara Stewart 
: What is being done to ensure that when patients are discharged from a mental health unit or facility they can cope independently in the community? 
Hon PETER DUNNE 
: We are currently reviewing the Mental Health and Addiction Service Development Plan and I expect to release before Christmas a new service development plan covering the next 5-year period. That will be spelling out clear responsibilities for district health boards greater involvement of the NGO sector as well as the work of the Ministry of Health in terms of ensuring that our mental health patients get the care and the treatment that they deserve.
Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 29 November 2012. Volume:686;Page:6950. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! I want to hear this question. Order! I want to hear the question—Barbara Stewart.
Stewart Barbara: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Stewart Barbara: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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BARBARA STEWART (NZ First) 
: 
 My question is to the Associate Minister of Health—[ 
Interruption 
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9. 
ALFRED NGARO (National) 
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Minister for Courts 
: What progress can he report in improving safety in our courts? 
Hon CHESTER BORROWS (Minister for Courts) 
: 
 Court in New Zealand is becoming a safer place. Since we came into Government we have tripled the number of people who are being screened before going into the courthouse and this is delivering great results. It has resulted in a 35 percent drop in security incidents in courts in just 2 years and has produced a 63 percent drop in serious security incidents such as serious assaults. 
Alfred Ngaro 
: What mechanisms have been used to achieve these improved results in courthouse security? 
Hon CHESTER BORROWS 
: In this Government’s first Budget we recognised the need to improve court security and made an investment of $9 million over 4 years for this. This has allowed the Ministry of Justice to add 45 new court security officers eight new metal detectors and 10 new X-ray machines to courts around the country and has also funded a complete redesign of the entrance to the Manukau District Court the busiest criminal court in the country.
Lotu-Iiga Sam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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5. 
Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA (National—Maungakiekie) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development 
: What opportunities does the Government’s White Paper for Vulnerable Children provide for New Zealanders to get involved? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 The white paper Children’s Action Plan looks to all New Zealanders to get involved—individuals communities and corporate organisations. They have their part to play in supporting these vulnerable children. We want to set up an independent trust to support education and training awards and scholarships for vulnerable children. The trust will be tasked with growing the scholarship programme and attracting support from individuals communities but also corporate organisations. 
Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga 
: What progress has she seen of mentoring programmes that are working with children? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: Last night I attended the launch of Big Brothers Big Sisters in Auckland. It currently has 15 locations around the country and is now moving there. It has already made 25 matches of big brothers or big sisters with young people who really need that kind of support. It has also partnered with UBS and I want to congratulate UBS on that corporate partnership which I think makes a big difference in seeing the dollars going to those young people who really need it. 
Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga 
: How can these mentoring programmes make a difference for children and young people? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: The fact is we know that there can be a powerful impact on young people if they are connected to an adult who mentors them and stays with them over a period of time. We have some fantastic organisations throughout this country that head up those mentoring programmes like TYLA Project K First Foundation Big Buddy Challenge for Change and many others. I am going to support them as the Government will support them more when we see that connection with young people and those mentors that they need most.
Robertson H V Ross: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
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Robertson H V Ross: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I call the honourable member David Bennett. 
Andrew Williams 
: Why?
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Bennett David: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
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DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East) 
: 
 It will be good Andrew Little. This bill the State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill is about recognising the Public Service. I think we need to do that first of all—recognise the good work that many people do in the service of our communities through the Public Service. When you think of all those people out there who give extra time and work hard for our communities it is very sad that the Opposition in this Parliament will create fear in those good people try to put up conspiracy theories and say that things are being done against their nature. It is the true nature of the left that those members try to use fear tactics on the most vulnerable people in our community and they try to do it to the people whom they purport to support. It is a shame and a disgrace for this House to see the left wing do that. 
When we look at the Opposition members they have talked about the amalgamation of estimates and financial reviews and that scrutiny. It is just not true. It is just not true at all. How can somebody like Trevor Mallard come into this House and say things like that? The other person here is Andrew. Andrew Little is it not from the New Zealand First Party. He came in here last night and said that there was a new Soviet-style power grab by the Prime Minister in this bill. What was it? Was it new section 6(j) that Andrew brought into this House— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Order! The member’s full name. 
DAVID BENNETT 
: Yes well I do not even know his surname. He has not been here long enough. The member from New Zealand First came in— 
Andrew Williams 
: Mr Williams to you. 
DAVID BENNETT 
: Mr Williams came in and said that. The good thing is that—just for Mr Williams’ knowledge and you should not put a press release out unless you check the facts—that section already exists in the State Sector Act. It has been there since 1988. So it is not a new clause Mr Williams; it actually exists. He did a lovely press release today saying that this section is a new clause. Well stick to the facts get your facts right and do not try to patronise and take advantage of those people who are giving good work to our community. Thank you.
Vote: Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 59 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Bill read a third time.
Vote: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bill read a first time. 
Bill referred to the Finance and Expenditure Committee.
Business Statement 
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Business Statement 
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Thursday 29 November 2012 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
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Business Statement 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 When the House resumes on Tuesday 4 December the Government will look to pass the Callaghan Innovation Bill and a number of first readings on the Order Paper including the Family Court Proceedings Reform Bill and the Public Finance (Fiscal Responsibility) Amendment Bill. With the agreement of the Business Committee there will be extended sittings on Tuesday 4 December and Wednesday 5 December effective on the mornings of Wednesday 5 December and Thursday 6 December to progress a number of non-controversial bills agreed by the Business Committee. On Thursday afternoon Parliament will continue the Committee stage of the Alcohol Reform Bill. Wednesday is a members’ day.
Robertson H V Ross: State Sector and Public Finance Reform Bill — First Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I call the honourable member Holly Walker. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: We don’t. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Oh it is Denise. I am sorry—Denise Roche. I will get it right.
Cosgrove Clayton: Financial Reporting Bill — First Reading 
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Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour) 
: 
 Given that this is the last call I think in this debate I seek leave for an extension of time of approximately 10 minutes—
Vote: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 2 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 105 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: We have Dr Megan Woods’ amendment to clause 15 as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 154. This is out of order as it is inconsistent with an earlier decision of the Committee.
Vote: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to.
Vote: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 154 in the name of Dr Megan Woods to clause 14 be agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: We have a further amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 161 in the name of David Clendon to clause 13(1)(f). This is out of order as it is inconsistent with an earlier decision of the Committee. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 149 in the name of Tracey Martin to clause 14 be agreed to.
Vote: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to 
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Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 154 in the name of Dr Megan Woods to clause 13 be agreed to.
Vote: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to 
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Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 161 in the name of David Clendon to clause 10 be agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: This is a debate on clauses 6 to 20 and the schedule. I call the Hon Steven Joyce.
Clark David: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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Dr DAVID CLARK (Labour—Dunedin North) 
: 
 I will take a brief call on this part of the Advanced Technology Institute Bill as I intend to say more in the debate on Part 2 when we get there merely to say that Labour of course will be supporting this bill but with significant reservations. I think it is important to put that on record. It ties into the fact that the purpose clause of the bill is so unclear. It is not really there tackling the big issues that need to be tackled. The Government it seems is afraid to articulate those big goals lest it fail. This has some broad parallels elsewhere with other things that are going on in the Government’s agenda. So we do not see in the purpose clause a clear expression that this legislation is intended to increase jobs is intended to increase skills or is intended to grow the economy in the high-value manufacturing sector. I intend to say more on this aspect in the debate on Part 2 of the bill so I will leave my contribution there so that when we come to a fuller discussion of clauses 10 through 14 we can take up that debate and say where those clauses which refer back to the purpose fall short. 
This Government really needs to put its money where its mouth is. We have seen very little investment in this area and we see lots of weasel words in the purpose clause that are not backed up later in the bill. So we see a Government that is not prepared to tackle the big issues with economic development and is not prepared to engage in joined-up thinking. So although these are nervous first steps and we will be supporting it we think the Government could be doing much more to advance economic development in New Zealand. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 151 in the name of the Hon Steven Joyce to Part 1 be agreed to. 
Amendments agreed to.
Vote: Advanced Technology Institute Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to 
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Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 154 in the name of Dr Megan Woods to clause 12 be agreed to.