Leavasa Dr Anae NeruDr ANAE NERU LEAVASA (Labour—Takanini): Thank you Madam Chair. It is great to just take a call on this during the committee stage of the House on the Health (National Cervical Screening Programme) Amendment Bill.Just first of all in terms of the background to this bill I never got a chance during the second reading but I promised I would get to a question. This whole thing about strengthening and improving the National Cervical Screening Programme—I'm all for it because I mean doing faxes nowadays is pretty old school right now. [Interruption] Do you have a fax? I mean I get the electronic fax in my phone; I do have an eFax so that's an upgrade from the actual physical fax. It's going to be quicker it's going to be convenient it's going to be more streamlined. The last thing you would want to do as a clinician is try and go through your faxes and the results when you've got the patient right there and you're trying to take a test and treat the patient—it's a bit of a headache to try to go through all those things.The Government Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) that the Minister has put forward is great in order for our National Kaitiaki Group to continue to have the oversight of the use of Māori data. One particular thing in this bill with the amendments is that testing for HPV—being a male clinician in South Auckland with a Māori-Pacific whānau whether they be cultural religious conservative views when I come out to the waiting room and call a person's name and I can see the lady's face—yes when they see me asking for them to come through down the hallway to the clinic room I can already tell that they don't want me to take the smear test. So having this HPV test is going to make a huge difference in order to get that access for our whānau. We already know about the lower rates of participation in the cervical screening programme with Māori Pacific Asian and other vulnerable groups so this helps to do away with that.I'm going to look at the Māori data and the governance group which this SOP is speaking to. It is great to make sure that we talk about data sovereignty and making sure we protect data and only use it for its purposes and protect the health information of our people. So I get what the SOP is trying to do and I support that.The other thing I would say with the two amendments here is that it's going to make a huge difference across the board for our whānau. But my question to the Minister specifically for a Pacific whānau with these provisions is: what do you think that is going to do for our Pacific whānau especially where I come from in South Auckland? And my wife's a Māori female from Ngāpuhi and Ngāti Whātua. She works for a Māori provider in South Auckland. She would always make sure that anything that we do is aligned with the Treaty of Waitangi. So what are your thoughts and would these provisions align with that Minister? So those are the two things that I would like to ask the Minister and again I'm going back to the background of the bill—I totally support it because again I don't know whether Dr Gaurav would have the same issue getting smear tests done with our female population but it is a barrier for us and I'm trying to go through our health targets especially under the primary health organisation—if we see on the dashboard You haven't met your target." and if you have so many males in your clinic it's a huge issue. I got taught from one of the senior Māori clinicians going through medical school that we are supposed to be asexual meaning that you're not a male doctor you're not a female doctor—you are there to treat the patient in whatever capacity. But again I acknowledge that it is a hard task when you come from a Pacific conservative or religious area where that's going to be a huge barrier for us. So those are my two questions to the Minister. Thank you."