Lee DeniseDENISE LEE (National—Maungakiekie): Thank you very much Mr Chair. It is with reluctance that we do not support the passage of this bill. I say reluctance in the sense that we understand and very much acknowledge and get right in behind—before during and after—the idea that family violence is a scourge on our society. That is the first and it'll be the last thing that I say tonight and it's very much something that we have taken great detail and great care in when we were in Government around taking some significant action. I know that speakers before me have referred to the Integrated Safety Response (ISR) pilot and its success which saw in 18 months of its initial pilot the percentage of clients comfortable reporting cases going to police from 25 percent to 50 percent. There were incredible wins in that regard—so too in the creation of the Family and Whānau Violence Legislation Bill which is rather interesting tonight knowing that that's sitting languishing on the Order Paper and hasn't been brought forward for its second reading. That's something very tangible and preventative that the Government could be doing right here right now. It doesn't negate the importance of the debate we're having tonight but it's an extra and significant debate that we should be having because it addresses structural issues of family violence—significant structural issues of family violence.Tonight's bill is very incredibly well-meaning and well-intentioned but it places the burden of responsibility of family violence on businesses in this regard and it's not the solution. When you've got a massive societal issue it requires a massive societal and Government response a Crown response not entirely a business response in this regard. We've had the Hon Judith Collins speak earlier in the night about a possible solution around increased access to ACC funding and there are other solutions that could be tabled. Instead we're having to deal with this particular mechanism for change and for support.I really caution anyone on the other side of the House to promote or to pitch this as a pro-business or pro-victim response by our particular party. That is not at all the case. What we're dealing with here is a considered response for the impact that business will have and it's the right thing that we evaluate that and that we cut across right intentions for the business community. When you're dealing with a threshold that's as low and as broad as this bill contains we have to be very careful about impact on those who employ victims of family violence.I'd like to touch on the Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) in regards to an educational campaign SOP 42. I'm aware that that may as a previous speaker has just pointed out—I think she used the word ridiculous. It is not at all ridiculous and here's why. I sit on the Education and Workforce Committee. There are massive changes coming to small business—in fact to all business—incredibly soon in the form of the Employment Relations Act and we are required here to forearm and forewarn and gear up business for any change that they face if we're the ones in fact imposing that change on them. So it is the right thing to do to require the Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment if this bill passes to embark on an educational campaign and make sure that business is geared up for—after all change if this is going to pass shouldn't be happening at business; it needs to be with business. They are the lifeblood of our nation and that's something that we should be doing here in Parliament tonight.So I would like to again as I said earlier finish with my remarks: family violence is a societal scourge and we are incredibly determined as we have been through our ISR pilot scheme through our family and whānau violence bill—massive changes in the past decade. Thank you.