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Tisch Lindsay: Social Security (Clothing Allowances for Orphans and Unsupported Children) Amendment Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Social Security (Clothing Allowances for Orphans and Unsupported Children) Amendment Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14227. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Members when we were last on the Social Security (Clothing Allowances for Orphans and Unsupported Children) Amendment Bill Melissa Lee had the call and has 3 minutes remaining if she wishes.
Vote: Conservation (Natural Heritage Protection) Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Conservation (Natural Heritage Protection) Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14227. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Conservation (Natural Heritage Protection) Bill be now read a third time.Ayes117New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; Mana 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan.Noes3Māori Party 3.Bill read a third time.
Tisch Lindsay: Conservation (Natural Heritage Protection) Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Conservation (Natural Heritage Protection) Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14223. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I understand that the next call is a split call—Moana Mackey.
Robertson H V Ross: Conservation (Natural Heritage Protection) Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Conservation (Natural Heritage Protection) Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14216. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): I recognise the honourable member Andrew Williams.
Robertson H V Ross: Conservation (Natural Heritage Protection) Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Conservation (Natural Heritage Protection) Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14208. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): I call the Hon Ruth Dyson.
Robertson H V Ross: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: General Debate[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14206. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Thank you for informing me that you have finished.The debate having concluded the motion lapsed.
Robertson H V Ross: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: General Debate[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14205. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Thank you very much Mr Henare for your contribution but it is not a point of order. It is entirely up to the member. Honourable members the time for this debate—Simon O’Connor: Mr Speaker.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Oh you were lucky.Simon O’Connor: Damn straight.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): I call the honourable member Simon O’Connor.Hon Member: No we’re lucky.
Henare Tau: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHenare Tau: General Debate[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14205. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TAU HENARE (National): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. An accusation has been made. There are 120-odd members of Parliament in this place and I think it behoves that member there Brendan Horan to name that person so that the rest of us are not wrapped up in his little game.
Little Andrew: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLittle Andrew: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14192. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]4.ANDREW LITTLE (Labour) to theMember in charge of thePrivacy (Giving Privacy Commissioner Necessary Tools) Amendment Bill: Why is the Privacy (Giving Privacy Commissioner Necessary Tools) Amendment Bill required?SUE MORONEY (Member in charge of the Privacy (Giving Privacy Commissioner Necessary Tools) Amendment Bill): This bill gives two important tools to the Privacy Commissioner: firstly the ability to launch her own investigation without a specific complaint in order to investigate a privacy breach; and secondly the right to require agencies to take specific remedies when there are privacy problems. Both of these issues which are in this bill were recommended by the Law Commission.Andrew Little: Why is it important to New Zealanders for this bill to be progressed now?SUE MORONEY: It is important that this bill is progressed now because of this Government’s record of playing fast and loose with New Zealanders’ privacy—breaches everywhere from ACC to the Earthquake Commission—Mr SPEAKER: Order! That answer is quite sufficient.Rt Hon Winston Peters: Supplementary question.Mr SPEAKER: Supplementary question—no. Order! It is not in order to have a supplementary question.
Little Andrew: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLittle Andrew: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14192. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]3.ANDREW LITTLE (Labour) to theMember in charge of thePrivacy (Giving Privacy Commissioner Necessary Tools) Amendment Bill: Is it still her intention to proceed with the first reading of the Privacy (Giving Privacy Commissioner Necessary Tools) Amendment Bill?SUE MORONEY (Member in charge of the Privacy (Giving Privacy Commissioner Necessary Tools) Amendment Bill): Yes. I hope that parties that take privacy breaches seriously will in fact get the chance to vote for my bill this very evening.Andrew Little: Has she seen any reports of similar legislation being proposed?SUE MORONEY: Yes I have. In May 2012 the Minister of Justice Judith Collins promised a privacy forum that she would be introducing a bill to replace the Privacy Act in the first half of 2013. As we head into November there is no sign of that bill yet but help is at hand. She can make—Mr SPEAKER: Order! The answer is now sufficient.
Prasad Rajen: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePrasad Rajen: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14191. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]2.Dr RAJEN PRASAD (Labour) to theMember in charge of theCare of Children Law Reform Bill: Why is the Care of Children Law Reform Bill required?JACINDA ARDERN (Member in charge of the Care of Children Law Reform Bill): It is true that adoption numbers in New Zealand are falling but this is in part due to the very antiquated nature of our laws. Not only are there limitations on who can adopt there are also limitations on who is able to maintain a legal relationship with thechild once the order is complete meaning that whāngai adoption for instance is not supported by our current legal framework. The law needs to be changed to introduce the paramountcy principle so that the No. 1 consideration is the well-being of the child.Dr Rajen Prasad: Why does the Care of Children Law Reform Bill reference the Law Commission’s report entitledAdoption and its Alternatives: A Different Approach and a New Framework?JACINDA ARDERN: My member’s bill does take an unusual approach in that it leans heavily on the work of the Law Commission in its report on adoption. That is for one simple reason. This area is very complex. The Law Commission produced over 300 pages of policy and recommendations. We need to get this right and it makes sense to utilise the work it has done.
Prasad Rajen: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePrasad Rajen: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14191. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]1.Dr RAJEN PRASAD (Labour) to theMember in charge of the Care of Children Law Reform Bill: Is it still her intention to proceed with the first reading of the Care of Children Law Reform Bill?JACINDA ARDERN (Member in charge of the Care of Children Law Reform Bill): Absolutely it is my intention to proceed. Although the bill was delayed to allow for clarity around the impact of the marriage equality legislation on the bill there remain a number of unresolved issues as a result of the fact that quite simply our adoption laws are out of date and no longer fit for purpose.Dr Rajen Prasad: Has she received any reports on the likelihood of the bill reaching a select committee?JACINDA ARDERN: I have. Although I am optimistic I understand that unfortunately some parties would rather wait for the gamble of a second member’s bill on this issue being drawn before progressing with adoption law reform. Others quite simply do not see it as a priority. I would ask that these parties reconsider.
Dyson Ruth: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDyson Ruth: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14189. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]11.Hon RUTH DYSON (Labour—Port Hills) to theMinister of Conservation: Why did he tell the House on 24 September “the first I knew of the issue of the submission was just 5 days before” when as he stated on 17 October “The first full briefing on Tukituki was on 5 March and it confirmed the department’s role in the process and mentioned nitrogen and phosphorous management”?Hon Dr NICK SMITH (Minister of Conservation): The 5 March report on Tukituki from the Department of Conservation said that the proposed project would result in water-quality improvements throughout the catchment. It is ridiculous of the member to suggest that as a consequence I should have known of the existence of a draft submission that said the exact opposite. I stand by my answers that I did not know of the existence of the 34-page draft submission until it was publicly leaked in September.Hon Ruth Dyson: When he told the House last week about his paper on 5 March that “The paper was very positive on the project” and “I was surprised at the content of the leaked draft submission which had a very different view on the effects of the project.” was he saying that the reason he expressed so much concern over theDepartment of Conservation’s submission was because he thought it was going to be positive about the Ruataniwha Water Storage scheme?Hon Dr NICK SMITH: I simply leave it to the comments by the Deputy Director-General of Conservation. She said that she made the decision on the submission that I never saw the leaked draft submission that I had no role in the decision making and that she did not know what my view was. It could be no more comprehensive than that. The allegations from members opposite do not have a leg to stand on.Hon Ruth Dyson: Does he think he is keeping the Department of Conservation sufficiently neutral given that his weekly report from 11 March notes that it was preparing material for a meeting with the Bluegreens a National Party organisation?Hon Dr NICK SMITH: It is perfectly normal of Ministers to say “I’m going to an event and I’m likely to give a speech on some subjects and I’d like to be well informed.” I remember well Ministers under the previous Labour Government in terms of the Prime Minister receiving substantive briefings prior to giving speeches at Labour Party conferences.Hon Ruth Dyson: What exactly did he say to the Prime Minister on 30 September when he briefed him on the public controversy over the Department of Conservation’s leaked draft submission on the Tukituki plan change?Hon Dr NICK SMITH: At lunch when the Prime Minister returned from an overseas trip I said to him that the Labour Party had been making up some nonsense over Tukituki that the Deputy Director-General of Conservation had made it absolutely plain that the department made the decision and that we were getting on with the important business of Government.
Foster-Bell Paul: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to MembersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFoster-Bell Paul: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members[Sitting date: 23 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14189. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]10.PAUL FOSTER-BELL (National) to theMinister of Police: What recent announcements has she made to support the victims of serious financial crime?Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister of Police): Yesterday I announced that the Serious Fraud Office has signed a memorandum of understanding with Victim Support. The emotional and financial consequences for victims of serious financial crime can be extremely traumatic and like other victims of serious crime they deserve support. That is why when I became the Minister I asked the Serious Fraud Office to establish a close working relationship with Victim Support. The resulting memorandum of understanding will ensure that victims have access to help and advice as well as giving them the confidence that those who commit financial fraud are held to account for their crimes.Paul Foster-Bell: How will the memorandum of understanding result in better services for victims of serious financial crime?Hon ANNE TOLLEY: Serious financial crime can have a devastating impact on victims with many of them losing a lifetime of savings. The memorandum of understanding will see the two agencies working together to promote and deliver victim support services and to keep victims informed about their cases. The Serious Fraud Office and Victim Support will also hold joint training sessions to help share information and best practice. The Serious Fraud Office has already published two guides to help victims understand the processes involved in investigations and prosecutions and how this might affect them.
Tisch Lindsay: Sittings of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Sittings of the House[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14303. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection.
Upston Louise: Sittings of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUpston Louise: Sittings of the House[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14303. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]LOUISE UPSTON (Senior Whip—National): I rise to seek leave of the House since the urgency motion has concluded for the House to rise at this time.
Upston Louise: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUpston Louise: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14303. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupō): I stand to take the final call from this side of the House on the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill. Those before me have spoken at length about the requirement for this bill and the fact that we would rather not have had to take this step to validate it but I do want to recognise the cooperation of all parties in the House in getting this bill passed.I did feel a little sad that some took the opportunity to be critical of our police. When I stood here nearly 5 years ago and gave my maiden speech I was very proud to be a member of a party that backed the police over criminals every time. This is another day for that. Thank you.Bill read a third time.
Simpson Scott: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14302. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): I mentioned in my second reading contribution on this Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill that the passing under urgency of retrospective validating legislation is absolutely a clearly less than perfect situation. I think that all members in the House would acknowledge and accept that. But from time to time for a variety of very good reasons such a measure is required. We do not do it lightly. This is one of those occasions.Notwithstanding the small element of political ping-pong that has occurred this afternoon I want to thank members from across the House for their solid contributions and their understanding of the situation because none of us are pleased to be doing this in this way on this afternoon. On this side of the House we support the police and we do so with enthusiasm notwithstanding the occasional mistake. I support this bill and commend it to the House.
Sabin Mike: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSabin Mike: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14299. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MIKE SABIN (National—Northland): I would just like to endorse the comments that have already been made and I guess despite the fact that there has been a little bit of political ping-pong going on from some members of the House—Hon Clayton Cosgrove: The pong is over there!MIKE SABIN: There we go! There is one—he has got a racket in his hand as we speak. I commend the fact that the House has taken this matter on board in the serious manner that it needs and deserves. The Minister of Police has rightly taken responsibility for this situation in so far as the Minister is responsible. But it is important to remember that in terms of operational matters there are people who are directly responsible for these sorts of decisions and the policemen responsible for making these errors would be the first to admit that. I think that should not be lost in this discussion but I do acknowledge and commend members of the House for having found it in their hearts to ensure that this Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill is passed for the reasons that have been clearly outlined.
Prosser Richard: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeProsser Richard: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14299. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]RICHARD PROSSER (NZ First): There have been some valid points made on both sides of the House with regards to this process. I think it has been impressed upon all of us that mistakes have been made. Certainly it is important that the Opposition holds the Government to account in matters like this. But I think it is also important for us to remember that as far as the public is concerned nobody has sent us here to simply snipe at each other. Nobody has sent us here to score cheap points when there is important business to be done. We are sitting under urgency and I think that is a state in which the public wishes us to remain for as short a time as possible. I am sure that the importance of what has gone on has not been lost on those in officialdom. I am sure that if there are inquiries that need to be done they will be done and it will be investigated as to how the mistake came about. We will look to find ways of making sure it is not repeated.I do commend the Minister of Police for stepping up and bringing this matter back to the House where the mistake can be addressed before it becomes a problem. I am very glad that it came to the Minister’s attention and not to the attention of a criminal lawyer or some investigative journalist somewhere. I am glad that it did not blow up and cause a lot of cases to be revisited and a whole lot of people to be released from prison when they were in fact guilty of crimes. So without wanting to go over old ground I say that once again we do not like having to be here under urgency—none of us do—but we understand that the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill has to go through and the sooner it does so the better. We support this bill. Thank you.
McKelvie Ian: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMcKelvie Ian: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14298. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]IANMcKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei): I do reiterate my words from the second reading and the words of Minister Collins. I just want to spend a moment or two commenting on one or two other topics though.Hon Clayton Cosgrove: Minister Collins? Minister Tolley!IANMcKELVIE: Minister Tolley—my apologies to the Minister. That has taken up a couple of seconds of my time. Shush!I just do not get the Opposition’s poor view of the work of our police. When this Government came into office we had some aspiration around the police and crime levels. We are now after some 4 years—or nearly 5 years in fact—looking at achieving as much as a 30 percent improvement in police front-line efficiency as a result of the new technology that was introduced this year. This combined with an 18 percent reduction in crime that has been achieved by our Minister of Police and our Minister of Justice over the last 4 years means effectively that our front-line police could well be more efficient by a factor of some 48 percent.It is typical of the Labour Party desperate to score points. The world has changed and it appears to have passed straight through the keeper on that side of the House—in fact the score is Bangladesh is nought for nought at the moment—as has the fact that on the whole the public have good ears and do not need to be told the same thing time after time.I support this legislation the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill. Although not happy with it we have to support it. Good job.
Mitchell Mark: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMitchell Mark: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14294. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney): I just want to clarify one thing. A recent Police Association survey clearly showed that New Zealand police are far happier and better resourced under a National Government than they were under a Labour Government. I just want to state—and I am sure that Mr Sabin and the Hon Chester Borrows will support me in saying this—that when the air force lost its strike capability we were pretty worried we were going to start losing our dog vans and patrol cars under a Labour Government.Helen Clark the leader of the Labour Government—I could not believe it; I could not believe it when she threw her Diplomatic Protection Squad under the bus. She threw the guys under the bus who are actually employed and are willing to do what they need to and who put themselves on the line to protect her. And what did she do? The first opportunity that she had to stick up for her police for the guys and girls who look after her she threw them under the bus. That is what the Labour Party thinks of the New Zealand police.Mr Cosgrove can get up and spout on and say how wonderful the police are. Yeah they are pretty wonderful Mr Cosgrove. But it is pretty disingenuous when you get up and you are part of a party that had a leader who was quick to throw her own personal protection officers under a bus. You should be ashamed. I am very very happy to commend the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill to the House. Thank you.
Tolley Anne: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTolley Anne: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14291. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister of Police): I moveThat the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. The Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill is validating legislation that will deem oaths of office taken by police employees rejoining the New Zealand Police between 13 October 2009 and 13 October 2013 to have been administered as though the persons administering those oaths had been authorised by the Commissioner of Police. It removes uncertainty about the conferral of constabulary powers for those police employees who purportedly took the constable’s oath between 13 October 2009 and 13 October 2013.This Government is committed to effective public administration and to supporting our front-line police constables. This bill achieves these objectives by removing the risk that the actions of affected police employees can be challenged for the sake of it. The bill does not affect redress in the unlikely event that it is necessary for those whose rights might genuinely have been breached. This bill is a straightforward administrative provision that fixes a technical matter directly and cleanly. I thank the members of the House for their forbearance. I thank the members of the House for their support and their responsible actions here this afternoon. I commend this bill to the House.
Simpson Scott: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14291. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): Passing under urgency retrospective validating legislation is clearly a less than perfect situation. But from time to time for a variety of reasons this House is required to do so. We do not do it lightly. This is one of those occasions and it gives me no satisfaction at all to stand and support this bill the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill. My colleagues earlier in the debate have well set out the circumstances and reasons and I am not going to repeat them. I support the bill.Bill read a second time.
Horan Brendan: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHoran Brendan: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14290. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]BRENDAN HORAN (Independent): I rise to take a short call to say I support the Policing (Constable’s Oath Validation) Amendment Bill through all stages today. I would first of all like to thank the Leader of the House Gerry Brownlee for consulting me prior to the introduction of the bill. If we do not pass this bill there is a risk of consequences for current and past police investigations prosecutions could be jeopardised and there might be claims against the Crown. In supporting this bill we are backing the New Zealand Police and the maintenance of law and order. Thank you.
Sabin Mike: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSabin Mike: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14287. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MIKE SABIN (National—Northland): It is fair to say that everyone has canvassed that no one is a fan of this particular type of legislation—the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill. What I am not a fan of—and I think we should actually be above—is actually playing politics about a situation that is actually outside the purview of anyone in this House the Minister of Police included. It is outside the purview of anyone within this House and politicians and outside the purview of any political party because this was an operational matter that a handful of police officers got wrong. That is not to say that that should be forgiven. That is a mistake backed on the back of another one and I would suggest that there would be some police officers who are very red-faced about it.I am very loyal to the police. The police would be the first to acknowledge themselves that a handful of them have made an error in doing what they have done. The implications of this House not acting prudently—as I believe we actually all are—to address the matter would be significant. So we are going about that. But the cheap from-the-hip shots that I have heard to date are unnecessary. Let us focus on what this is actually about and do what is concerned. If any message should be sent it should be sent to those who are responsible to ensure that the attention to detail that they should afford to their operational duties is carried out.
Robertson H V Ross: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14286. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Have we finished? I call the honourable member Richard Prosser.
McKelvie Ian: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMcKelvie Ian: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14286. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]IANMcKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei): None of us came to Parliament to pass this type of legislation but having said that it seems a pity to me that we have to score cheap political points over a genuine if unfortunate mistake by a very competent and effective police force. It is a tall order to expect the Minister of Police to delve into her portfolios so deeply as to ensure the correct person witnesses a signature. Surely to quote Ms Ardern the Minister has the right to expect the police to ensure that process is followed correctly. I support the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill for all the reasons the Minister outlined in her speech.
Robertson H V Ross: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14286. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): The honourable member has sought leave to table a letter. Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none. The member may table it.Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Mitchell Mark: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMitchell Mark: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14281. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney): I am very happy to take a call on the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill. I just wanted to commend the Minister of Police and also the Commissioner of Police for realising that there had been an administration error and moving quickly to fix it. I do want to highlight and point out the fact that Ms Ardern made which is that this relates directly to 63 police officers. It does not relate to new recruits; it relates to 63 police officers who have rejoined the police. Actually it is a great testament to the quality of the leadership within our police currently that we do have experienced officers who have left and who are choosing to come back and rejoin the police. I am very happy to commend this bill to the House. Thank you.
Robertson H V Ross: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14281. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Have we finished? I call the honourable member Mark Mitchell.
Tolley Anne: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTolley Anne: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14278. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister of Police): I moveThat the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill be now read a first time.Bill read a first time.
Brownlee Gerry: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill — Procedure First Reading Second Reading Third Reading[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14278. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): If I am slightly slow off my feet it only expresses the irritation of having to do it in the first place. I seek leave for the question on the bill’s first reading to be taken without debate and following its second reading for the bill to be set down for a third reading forthwith. With those grumpy statements I would be very careful not to offend—Mr SPEAKER: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none.
Brownlee Gerry: UrgencyText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Urgency[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14277. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): I moveThat urgency be accorded the introduction and passing of the Policing (Constable’s Oaths Validation) Amendment Bill.It does not give me any pleasure at all to move this motion today but I do wish to thank other parties in the House for agreeing that this was a matter that needed to be dealt with urgently by the House.The problem here is that oaths that were taken by police employees between 13 October 2009 and 13 October 2013 needed to have been administered according to the law. It would appear that police have not administered those oaths according to the altered Policing Act. I want to point out that this is the second time that they have come to Parliament asking Parliament to validate their actions and it certainly does not reflect well on the police that we are put in this position and that so much of Parliament’s valuable time gets soaked up trying to sort out something that should never have happened in the first place. Although this is a straightforward technical matter it is nonethe less one that is an extreme irritation and I would suggest potentially quite an embarrassment to the police.This bill will remove any doubts about the validity of the actions of the affected police employees effectively constables and prevent unmeritorious claims of invalid exercise of police powers. We will follow a process this afternoon agreed by the Business Committee. I am sure that members will wish to express their concern about the need for this particular bout of urgency.Motion agreed to.
Calder Cam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCalder Cam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14276. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]11.Dr CAM CALDER (National) to theAssociate Minister of Transport: What progress is being made in bringing down New Zealand’s road toll?Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (Associate Minister of Transport): Excellent news. We are tracking towards the lowest road toll in more than 60 years. The year-to-date road toll stands at 202. This is 33 fewer than at this time last year and a significant 36 percent or 116 people lower than just 4 years ago at the same time. Younger drivers have been a focus for the Government so it is particularly pleasing that from 2010 to 2012 we saw a 44 percent decrease in deaths for our 15 to 19-year-olds and a 48 percent decrease in the number of 20 to 24-year-olds dying on our roads. But of course there is no room for complacency especially with Labour Weekend coming up.Dr Cam Calder: What are the key messages for motorists to remember over the long weekend to keep them and their families safe?Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE: A very good question. The messages for drivers are clear: stay focused on your driving take breaks drive to the conditions reduce your speed and of course do not drink and drive. I would also add to this list the request for people to obey the law and stay off their cellphones while driving as any distraction can be deadly. I wish everyone across the House and across the country a safe long weekend and I hope everyone comes back in one piece.Iain Lees-Galloway: Does he agree with the New Zealand Police which recently told the Law and Order Committee that lowering the drink-driving limit is the single most effective measure that Parliament could take to further reduce the road toll; if so will he at the first opportunity vote to reduce the limit to the internationally accepted level of 0.05 percent?Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE: Well I would certainly agree to the extent that the Government has already lowered the blood-alcohol level for our young and for recidivist drink-drivers and that and other initiatives have led to a significant reduction after 9 years of virtually flat-lining in the last 4 years. But as the member knows the Government is considering the evidence on lowering the adult drink-driving limit and it will report in due course on the findings of that evidence.
Hughes Gareth: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHughes Gareth: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14275. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]10.GARETH HUGHES (Green) to theMinister of Energy and Resources: Does he stand by his statement about oil and gas “As minister my job is to support the development of these resources in a sensible safe and environmentally responsible way”?Hon SIMON BRIDGES (Minister of Energy and Resources): Yes.Gareth Hughes: How is the Minister doing his job to ensure that oil is developed in a sensible safe and environmentally responsible way when as of yesterday he had not even read or been advised on Anadarko’s environmental impact assessment report?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: Let me give the member a brief history. Under the old system when Labour was in power the Minister simply applied their discretion and their vibe if you like to the system. Now in fact there are independent regulatory agencies that go through and scrutinise applications in some detail. It is not for the Minister to assess them. Indeed if I did that member would be accusing me of crony capitalism. So I think I am in the right place on this.Gareth Hughes: Is the Minister saying to the people of New Zealand that his job is not to read a very important environment report from the very company that had a 25 percent stake in the Gulf of Mexico spill; and how sensible safe and environmentally responsible is it to allow Anadarko to drill a well in the deepest water just off the Waikato coast and not even need a marine consent when people in the Waikato need a resource consent to drill a water bore?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: To reassure the very concerned member I can tell him that I have now perused the documents in question. But I repeat very clearly that he misconceives my function and the function of the independent regulatory agencies with the experts who go through the several hundred pages of documents to ensure that they meet their very stringent tests. That is their role. My role is to oversee them and to be in charge of them.Gareth Hughes: Will the Minister ensure that Anadarko’s oil spill modelling reports and oil spill contingency plans are publicly available before they start drilling this summer?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: They are not publicly available in the sense that they are there on websites necessarily for everyone to see. But they are through Official Information Act and other processes able to be obtained.Gareth Hughes: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I acknowledge the Minister’s answer but the question was directed to him—will he ensure.Mr SPEAKER: And he said no they are not going to be publicly available.
Ardern Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeArdern Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14275. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]9.SHANE ARDERN (National—Taranaki - King Country) to theAssociate Minister of Health: What is the Government doing to support rural general practice?Hon JO GOODHEW (Associate Minister of Health): Today I have announced an additional $9 million over 4 years to support rural general practices to retain clinical staff and services. This new investment is on top of the $13 million a year already funded for rural general practice support. This additional funding will take effect from 1 July 2014 when a new way of allocating rural funding will be rolled out.Shane Ardern: In what other ways is the Government supporting the rural workforce?Hon JO GOODHEW: In many other ways. We are providing funding and support for the New Zealand Rural GP Network to manage a rural recruitment and locum service and there is a rural midwifery recruitment and retention service a multidisciplinary rural health immersion programme the Rural Origin Medical Preferential Entry Scheme the Voluntary Bonding Scheme rural hospital medicine postgraduate generalist placement for rural rotations the Advanced Trainee Fellowship Scheme and the physician assistant position. There is more but I think my time is up.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14273. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! I clearly acknowledged when I put the leave that it was very publicly available. The reason that I allowed it on this occasion was that a quote had been taken from it. I took the member at his word that it was an accurate quote. The Minister when he answered that question referred to that quote. So it seemed to me that that information should be made available.
Brownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14273. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I think that does tend to indicate—well the leave was granted—that the document was publicly available.
Goff Phil: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGoff Phil: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14273. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon PHIL GOFF (Labour—Mt Roskill): I am very pleased to table the whole report. I thought I would table the relevant quotes. I will leave the yellow stickers on it for the reference of members.Mr SPEAKER: I am very grateful for the assistance from the member.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14273. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: It was certainly my understanding of the leave that was sought that the whole of the report would be tabled.
Brownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14273. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The House granted leave a few minutes ago to the Hon Phil Goff to table a whole report not selected quotes from it. I would ask that the whole report gets tabled not the selected quotes from it. The member has got it he offered to table it and he should put it on the Table.
Brownlee Gerry: Business of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Business of the House[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14263. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): Firstly a draft outline might simply be a blank calendar letting the member know the days we will be sitting here but I do intend to give him a little more information than that. As I have previously said to the Business Committee there is a possibility that there will be some urgency towards the end of the coming 3-week session before we go into the final couple of weeks of the year and then the very long 9-week break.
Robertson Grant: Business of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson Grant: Business of the House[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14263. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]GRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central): Acknowledging and thanking the Leader of the House for that draft outline has he got any indication about whether there will be any bouts of urgency in the upcoming session?
Brownlee Gerry: Business of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBrownlee Gerry: Business of the House[Sitting date: 24 October 2013. Volume:694;Page:14263. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): When the House resumes on Tuesday 5 November the Government intends to progress a number of bills on the Order Paper including the Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill. As indicated at the Business Committee last week it is my intention during this coming adjournment to provide all parties with a draft outline for the remainder of the year.