Jones Shane: Taxation (KiwiSaver and Company Tax RateAmendments) Bill — Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
Jones Shane: Taxation (KiwiSaver and Company Tax RateAmendments) Bill — Second Reading In Committee Third Reading 
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SHANE JONES (Labour) 
: 
Tena koe Mr Chairperson. [ 
Interruption 
] The nation is rejoicing from the tail of the fish to the head of the fish. Even in Horowhenua people are happy. For their infrastructure their bridges and their roads improvement is on the way. We will not see much of that member in the House; he will have to employ someone else on hopefully good wages to milk the cows—unlike Mr Bennett who has been feeding off the udder. That is an example of massive infrastructure development. 
I have been in and out of the Chamber to take toll calls from people up and down the country who are totally overwhelmed by the potential to improve savings improve the efficiency of firms and improve the prospects of children and grandchildren. These people are waiting with bated breath to hear how refined this product will actually be after it has been sifted by and shepherded through our Finance and Expenditure Committee. Like all proposals obviously the policy will be passed here but there is a need for further detail. The proposal is based on vision and the vision will be strengthened through attention to detail. I could not think of a better committee to undertake that role. 
I hope the members on the other side of the Chamber rise to the occasion and toss away this hyperbole this irrelevant rhetoric and bring real skills to the debate. I accept I may have been a tad irreverent in describing Mr Bennett as constantly lacquering his head with pottles of oil. He has just come back; he now has powdered his nose. We know that and that is why every contribution he makes in an attempt to undermine our matua Winston Peters is an irrelevancy. He has been mothered on milk he did not buy. 
I will say that at least those members towards the back of the Chamber make an attempt to contribute constructively but they overlook the fact that this debate is about a grand narrative that is moving Aotearoa forward. They seem to believe that the way to improve the roads is to constantly study the shape of the spark plug. No if one wants to lay down a better trajectory one has to step out of the minutiae. 
Simon Power 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I was reluctant to interrupt the member because I was enjoying his contribution to the Committee. But I want to make sure that the same latitude of debate will be afforded to members on this side of the Chamber. I do not believe that Mr Jones in what was a highly entertaining description of a large seagoing creature has actually referred to Part 2 at all. You have let him go on Mr Chairperson which is fine by us but I want to be assured that the same latitude will be allowed National members given that he has got so far through his speech without interruption. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: Thank you for raising that. The same latitude? Not necessarily. I was trying to attract the attention of Mr Jones. The volume of his voice was such that he could not hear me. I was going to draw that matter to his attention. Can we commence on Part 2 please Mr Jones. 
SHANE JONES 
: I accept that counsel that guidance from my kinsman a learned parliamentarian. I will gladly take responsibility for any sense of offence that the institution might have suffered through largely my reciting members’ names. Let me come back however to the Budget. When our committee deals with the bill there are three things— 
Jacqui Dean 
: Three things! 
SHANE JONES 
: No two things are happening. We are passing legislation under urgency but the elements of the Budget that National members want to ape will be referred to our committee. Let us just see what they are: KiwiSaver which was laid down last year and added to this year; and the ability for firms to grow their wealth through better efficiencies and better incentives. It is a fantastic day we are looking at.