Mallard Trevor: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Mallard Trevor: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 Thank you Mr Chairperson Robertson. 
Hon Tau Henare 
: Why? That’s the big question. Why? 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: Is Tau whining again? Is he whining again? He never stops whining. He never stops whining. He never never stops. I thank Mr Henare for assisting in the— 
Hon Tau Henare 
: Take that pin out of your leg. Come on; hurry up! 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I say to members that the House is a symbol of integrity and the integrity of all honourable members is to be upheld. Every person in this Chamber will be heard in accordance with our Standing Orders. Courtesy members is contagious. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: Mr Chairperson— 
Sandra Goudie 
: Courtesy is contagious and he sets the example—you’ve got to be kidding me! 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. The member—what is her name—Sandra Goudie just referred to you to one of your rulings about contagions and said “you’ve got to be kidding”. Is that in order? 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I do not think the member was referring to me but can I just refer to the member on my right-hand side Sandra Goudie. She has moved in order to facilitate interjection. If she wants to persist in doing that she will go back to her own seat. 
Hon Pete Hodgson 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I was about to raise precisely that point. Indeed I will now do so not in respect of the member for Coromandel but in respect of the member Tau Henare—who is the other loud-mouth of the eight National members over there and the other one of the eight who is not in the seat where he might normally be found. I wonder whether we can see a pattern here and whether we want to do anything about it. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: No I am prepared to continue in the way in which I made the ruling. Mr Henare is not too far away from his seat and he has not moved in order to facilitate interjection. If he had he would be in the front seat here. 
Hon Tau Henare 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Twice while we were having a point of order there were two interjections: one from the Hon Pete Hodgson and one from the member for Mana Kris Faafoi. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: Speaking to the point of order Mr Chairperson I say that if you want to add to the list we could put Dr Mapp on it. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Tatou tatou—together together. All right? 
Hon Pete Hodgson 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I have no recollection of interrupting a point of order. I am sure Tau Henare has called me out correctly. I wish to withdraw and apologise to you and to the Committee. 
Kris Faafoi 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I would like to withdraw and apologise to Tau Henare—it was correct. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Good man; thank you very much. Are there any more apologies before I call the Hon Trevor Mallard? Are there any more? 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: I think we are all sorry the member is here. We are all sorry that David Shearer is here—just to get that on the record—especially when we are debating this shocking legislation. 
The next question is: which organisation will rule on the questions that are in clause 9(2)(b)? Who will decide whether the provisions of the constitution of a students association that existed when the student last joined or rejoined the association continue to apply until the expiry of that period? The question I have then is: what happens to those students who might have transitional provisions that apply to them for 7 years or 6½ years if they were a mid-year enrolment and it went on and their organisation institution or students association no longer exists? How can they continue to pay fees to a non-existent students association and what can the rules be under clause 9(2)(b) for an organisation a students association that does not exist? How can they be the same rules? How can they be the same? It seems to me that they could not continue. In fact the more I look at this clause the more of a nonsense it appears to be. 
House resumed. 
The Chairperson reported progress on the Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill and no progress on the Employment Relations (Secret Ballot for Strikes) Amendment Bill.