Henare PeeniHon PEENI HENARE (Associate Minister for Social Development): Tēnā koe Madam Chair and thank you for the opportunity to make a contribution. Well I think that just really summed up the approach from the Opposition about how we deal with and work with our most vulnerable in our community. What became clear throughout the campaign was that systematic change needed to take place to make sure that those get full and correct entitlements where they deserve it and where they need it. This is a particular bill that makes sure that those people in our communities actually do get fair and correct entitlements.I want to pick up part of the point and speak to the principles that the other side of the Chamber keep going on about and it's certainly related to Supplementary Order Paper 28 in the name of Simon O'Connor. It speaks to the systematic change that's needed. It speaks to the ability to make and empower our case managers and indeed the Public Service that actually work with this particular piece of legislation or this bill to make sure that they are better equipped to serve our people.Now as a former case manager I can tell this committee—I look across the other side and I don't see any other former case managers in this Chamber. The Minister in the chair Carmel Sepuloni made reference to the 20 top case managers and what they talk about when they highlight what makes them so effective—the Minister's already touched on some. When I asked a particular one of them What were some of the challenges?" actually they made it very clear that it was the legislation that creates the systematic problem which is what this bill is addressing. It actually makes some very technical and some very smart changes to this particular piece of legislation and that's needed because the systematic change that that particular case manager—one of the most successful in the country—talks about actually is defined in its principles. It's defined in its principles.So the systematic change we're talking about is exactly what the Minister highlighted to the other side of the Chamber. Instantly if we are to consider Supplementary Order Paper 28 what that does is it automatically places a lens on the Public Service and their engagement with the public and that's a problem. That's a problem because this particular Supplementary Order Paper actually takes us backwards. It takes us back in time. It takes us back to dare I say it—as the Hon Alfred Ngaro mentioned—1964. If anything in 1964 we know Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act in the States. That's probably something more progressive than what they're offering in this Supplementary Order Paper at the moment.This is the systematic change that needs to happen to make sure that once again all of our people in this country—and it isn't just beneficiaries under the definition that I know that side of the Chamber supports or believes in. We know that actually many Kiwis right across the spectrum—some that do work some that don't work some that have dependants some who are unwell—we come in all walks shapes and sizes. It's important that when we hear from the other side—they keep throwing around the term "beneficiary". That only proves that this piece of work that's being done in Part 1 in particular around the principles is very very important and much needed.I won't go on too much longer because I know the other side's chomping at the bit to repeat themselves. I just wanted to make the point as somebody who has worked in this system worked with the people on the front line it's very clear that in order to get systematic change we must start with the legislation and that's what this bill does."