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Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 55 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.
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Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Amendments agreed to.
Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the schedule as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Schedule as amended agreed to.
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Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green) 
: 
 I accept the decision and I understand the necessary condition of 24 hours was not met. My question pertains to Supplementary Order Paper 144 which did meet the condition of—
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Parker David: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. This does not do any of those things. This does properly describe the bill. It is quite open to the Government to vote the amendment down but it should not with respect be ruled out of order. If that is your ruling I will ask for the Speaker to be recalled. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Are you moving that? 
Hon DAVID PARKER 
: I will Mr Chairperson but it seems a perfectly easy thing for you to do to actually put that to the vote because that is not a capricious amendment. It is a proper description of the legislation according to the Opposition and it is our right— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Order! Is the member moving that the Speaker be recalled? 
Hon DAVID PARKER 
: I am actually suggesting a very easy way through this.
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Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I know that proposals to change the title that are not serious are ruled out of order but given that the effect of the legislation is as all Opposition parties have said to encourage the increase in emissions I would suggest that that is perfectly within the Standing Orders and it should be put to the vote. It cannot be said to be some capricious attempt to make fun of the legislation. It is trying to describe it as it is and as you have heard from many speakers in this Chamber in this debate we heard a number of submitters at the Finance and Expenditure Committee say exactly the same as Opposition parties are saying that this will encourage the increase in emissions. So I challenge that ruling. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I am upholding the ruling. Speakers’ rulings 116/6 and 117/1 are quite clear on that. There are a number of examples. I will cite you one comment: “An amendment to the title of the bill must be a serious or objective description of the bill rather than an attempt to criticise its contents.” There are several examples set out in Speaker’s ruling 117/1 so I am upholding my ruling.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I will put the questions. The amendment in the name of Dr Kennedy Graham is ruled out in accordance with Speaker’s ruling 116/6.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Is some member seeking the call on Part 2 a very small part?
Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 2 be agreed to.  
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Part 2 agreed to.
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LOUISE UPSTON (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I seek leave to correct a vote on behalf of the Maori Party. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: On Part 1? 
LOUISE UPSTON 
: Yes to correct two votes. First the Maori Party voted three votes in favour of Supplementary Order Paper 144; that should have been three votes opposed. Correcting the vote on Supplementary Order Paper 142 it should be three votes in favour. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Does that change the outcome? 
LOUISE UPSTON 
: No it does not. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: No it does not. Leave is sought to amend the vote. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? It appears not. Leave is granted.
Chauvel Charles: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Chauvel Charles: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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CHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour) 
: 
 In an eagerly anticipated move I seek leave to table a letter on behalf of my colleague Moana Mackey that she wrote to the Hon Peter Dunne on 31 October making clear Labour’s position on the points that I dealt with in my earlier speech. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? It appears not. Leave is granted. 






Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am sorry to interrupt the member. It is time for me to leave the Chair. This debate is interrupted. I shall resume the Chair at 7.30 p.m. 
Sitting suspended from 6.08 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.
Hughes Gareth: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hughes Gareth: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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GARETH HUGHES (Green) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Notwithstanding Standing Order 325 the Committee is still the master of its destiny. I seek leave of the Committee for Supplementary Order Paper 147 in the name of Dr Kennedy Graham to be considered for a vote.
Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 55 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 141 in the name of Moana Mackey to clause 96 be agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: No I cannot do that. I have ruled it out of order and that is the end of the matter.
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Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 1 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 58 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; Mana 1. 
Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Chauvel Charles: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Chauvel Charles: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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CHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I seek leave—
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The other point to bring to the member’s attention which I made in my initial ruling is that amendments have to be lodged 24 hours previously. In the case of amendments on Supplementary Order Paper 147 in the member’s name that was not the case and it was the case with Moana Mackey’s Supplementary Order Paper 144. 
Dr Kennedy Graham 
: May I speak once more to that without— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Well it is not debatable because I have ruled. 
Dr Kennedy Graham 
: I understand that. I accept that. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I will let the member because he has a number of these amendments.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The question now is that Part 1 as amended stand part. Those of—
Graham Kennedy: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Graham Kennedy: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green) 
: 
 With respect I would query the fact that Supplementary Order Paper 144 involves changes to the price cap and therefore has implications for fiscal policy. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: No these are debating points. In terms—[ 
Interruption 
] These are debating points. In terms of the Standing Orders if we were to refer to Standing Order 325 and also to a number of Speakers’ rulings the point that I made earlier was that the Minister has said in the case of Supplementary Order Paper 147 that there is an impact on the Government’s fiscal aggregates and so that has been ruled out of order. That same advice was not given on Supplementary Order Paper 144 in the name of Moana Mackey.
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Mallard Trevor: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Just to confirm for the member the way that the Standing Orders work is very much dependent on decisions on the part of the Government to make declarations. If it fails to make a declaration on a particular amendment and just chooses to vote against it that is its call and the Chair does not have the ability to override—either to rule something out or to rule something in—if a Minister says so in this way.
Graham Kennedy: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Graham Kennedy: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I would be very grateful if you are able to explain the distinction between Supplementary Order Paper 144 which involves changes to the price cap which obviously in the Chair’s opinion is not to be ruled out of order because it did not attend to fiscal issues and Supplementary Order Paper 147 which is regarded as addressing fiscal issues.
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Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: We move now to Dr Kennedy Graham’s amendments as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 147. These have an impact on the Government’s fiscal aggregates and were not lodged 24 hours before the House met and so are out of order. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 142 in the name of Moana Mackey to Part 1 be agreed to.
Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 58 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; Mana 1. 
Noes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The result corrected after originally being announced as Ayes 55 Noes 64.
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Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 55 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Noes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Amendments not agreed to. 
The result corrected after originally being announced as Ayes 58 Noes 61.
Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am sorry; my apology. I did say I would put the votes first. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 145 in the name of the Hon Tim Groser to Part 1 be agreed to.
Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendments be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 58 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; Mana 1. 
Amendments agreed to. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 144 in the name of Moana Mackey to Part 1 be agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The Ayes are 64 the Noes are 55. The question will be put. Point of order Charles Chauvel.
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Chauvel Charles: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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CHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour) 
: 
 Thank you Mr Chairman—
Vote: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 55 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to.
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Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: After I have put the question the member can. The question is that the question be now put.
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Macindoe Tim: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The question is that the question be now put. 
Charles Chauvel 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I said during my earlier contribution that I would seek leave to table a letter and I omitted to do so. I seek that leave now.
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Barry Maggie: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am sorry the member has had four calls.
Auchinvole Chris: Urgent Debates — Pike River Mine Disaster—Release of Report Government Response and Ministerial Resignation 
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Auchinvole Chris: Urgent Debates — Pike River Mine Disaster—Release of Report Government Response and Ministerial Resignation 
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CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National) 
: 
 Lest we forget. One thing the people of the West Coast can be very sure of in this whole uncertain matter—one thing they can be sure of—is that I will never forget learning of the explosion at Pike River the overnight travel from Wellington and the waiting initially enthusiastically in the hope of rescue only for that to be replaced by increasing dismay as the full dimensions of the tragedy became clear. I will never forget that period of my life. I will never forget attending the daily hearings of the royal commission as it sat in Greymouth. I will never forget my impressions of the thoroughness the compassion and the expertise of the commissioners under the leadership of Justice Panckhurst. I will never forget the representations of the barristers acting for all the different parties and groups. I will never forget those. I will not forget the meetings with the families and their solicitors nor indeed the aspirations of them all for an outcome that would help to ameliorate if not end their grief. 
The meeting yesterday to present the report of the Royal Commission on the Pike River Coal Mine Tragedy provided some conclusion for all involved in waiting waiting and waiting. The adoption of the recommendations I think—as people said to me after the meeting—will go a long way to be a fitting memorial for those who lost their lives through a lack of safety in the workplace. I have consistently throughout my involvement with the families avoided saying that I know how they feel because I do not think one can possibly imagine how people feel after what they have endured with that first tragedy. But what it did do was inspire me to go and find my own father’s grave which I had never seen. It was their inspiration that obliged me to do that. So I would like to say again that I will never forget and I will continue to walk with each and every one of those people for as long as they require a companion.
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Smith Lockwood: Urgent Debates — Pike River Mine Disaster—Release of Report Government Response and Ministerial Resignation 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Honourable members I have received a letter from Darien Fenton seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the release of the report of the Royal Commission on the Pike River Coal Mine Tragedy the release of the Government’s response to it and the resignation of the Minister of Labour the Hon Kate Wilkinson. This a particular case of recent occurrence for which there is ministerial responsibility that warrants the immediate attention of the House by way of an urgent debate. I call on Darien Fenton to move that the House take note of a matter of urgent public importance.
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Blue Jackie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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8. 
Dr JACKIE BLUE (National) 
 to the  
Minister of Justice 
: How is the Government delivering on its Better Public Services targets to reduce crime? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Justice) 
: 
 I am extremely pleased to announce that over the past year this Government has delivered on its promise to New Zealanders with almost 3000 fewer violent crimes committed. The first results of the justice sector against its Better Public Services targets have been released today. The total reported crime rate and the reoffending rate have each fallen by almost 6 percent in the past year which means 21337 fewer crimes. 
Dr Jackie Blue 
: What are the key results and how do they compare with the justice sector targets? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS 
: By 2017 we aim to reduce total recorded crime by 15 percent violent crime by 20 percent youth crime by 5 percent and the reoffending rate by 25 percent. In this first year we have achieved significant progress with total violent crime down by 7 percent youth crime down by 4 percent and reoffending down by almost 6 percent. It is worth noting that for the first time homicide and related offences have reduced by 22 percent. 
Dr Jackie Blue 
: What are the key initiatives that are leading to these very impressive results? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS 
: Since 2009 this Government has promoted the Addressing the Drivers of Crime programme which has resulted in better management of low-level repeat offenders has offered alternative pathways to success and most recently has seen the initiation of alcohol and drug courts. Through Policing Excellence and Prevention First programmes the police are providing a stronger front-line presence while the Department of Corrections has programmes under way to significantly improve the rehabilitation of prisoners. The justice sector through its leadership board shared funding pool and combined targets is working collaboratively to reduce crime which will have a long-term positive impact across New Zealand.
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Mitchell Mark: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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6. 
MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) 
 to the  
Minister for Economic Development 
: How is the Government investing in infrastructure to support encourage and grow New Zealand businesses? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister for Economic Development) 
: 
 Last week the Government released the  
Building Infrastructure 
 progress report the fourth of six Business Growth Agenda reports. This brings together 67 separate initiatives the Government is undertaking to deliver the resilient efficient and coordinated infrastructure networks demanded by a modern economy. For businesses to invest in plant and facilities in this country they need to be confident they have access to infrastructure that supports their businesses including a fast and efficient roading network a reliable electricity transmission network water storage and usage developing high-speed broadband and telecommunications schools and hospitals and the rebuilding of Christchurch. The Government’s infrastructure programme is a key part of the Government’s Business Growth Agenda. 
Mark Mitchell 
: What infrastructure initiatives has the Government invested in? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: Over the last 4 years the Government has invested very very significantly in a large range of programmes including for example $5.5 billion for the Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Fund $1.6 billion for ultra-fast broadband and faster rural broadband around $5 billion through Transpower for the national electricity grid and about $12 billion in the next 3 years in the country’s roading network. These projects are all part of the Government’s wider programme to provide businesses with the platform that they need to grow and succeed and also support jobs including for example about 2000 jobs in the roll-out of ultra-fast broadband 1000 jobs over 4 years on the Waterview motorway just under 1600 jobs on the Transpower upgrade and 1300 jobs for the horizontal infrastructure rebuild in Christchurch which has just started a major new recruitment campaign.
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Ngaro Alfred: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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10. 
ALFRED NGARO (National) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development 
: How are foster carers being recognised for the contribution they make to New Zealand’s most vulnerable children during Foster Care Awareness Week? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 Foster Care Awareness Week began yesterday with excellence awards for foster carers and culminates with the William Wallace Awards on Friday. I joined the Governor-General at Government House yesterday to celebrate the achievements of 11 foster carers who have received excellence awards. One of these couples had cared for nearly 200 children over 50 years. Another has a sibling group of seven children in their permanent care. These are remarkable people who look after our most vulnerable children. I think this House should recognise them too. 
Alfred Ngaro 
: What will the initiatives in the White Paper for Vulnerable Children deliver for foster carers? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: The white paper recognises the complexity of offering a home for life to children in care and outlines new supports to help foster carers transition foster children to family members. The Government will contract organisations more to support those who permanently take in children through fostering or Home for Life. Paid parental leave provisions to support Home for Life families will also be reviewed and parent-child interaction therapy for caregivers of high and complex needs children will be expanded. 
Alfred Ngaro 
: How are gateway assessments making a difference for children in care and their foster carers? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: This Government has put nearly $43.7 million more towards getting all children in care a proper health and education assessment so that we can address any of these issues that may have come up. Over 1000 children have now been assessed. The gateway assessments have picked up health problems in every single child who has gone through that assessment and more than half were found to have emotional behavioural and mental health issues which can now be addressed leading to a better life for these children. On behalf of New Zealanders I want to thank those foster carers who do that most important job.
Lees-Galloway Iain: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Labour—Palmerston North) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. It is a convention of the House that motions to recall the Speaker are supported by the Committee so I ask that you put the question again. I seek leave that you put the question again.
Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: It had 24 hours’ notice and the other point— 
Dr Kennedy Graham 
: Yes I understand that. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The member will sit please. It had 24 hours’ notice and as I said the Minister had no comment on Supplementary Order Paper 144 but did have on Supplementary Order Paper 147. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 146 in the name of Moana Mackey to Part 1 be agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Yes the Minister has advised that there is a fiscal implication in Supplementary Order Paper 147 in the member’s name. That is not the same as Moana Mackey’s Supplementary Order Paper 144. That is why the member’s Supplementary Order Paper has been ruled out of order. 
Dr Kennedy Graham 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Well there is really nothing to talk about but I call Dr Kennedy Graham.
Calder Cam: Local Electoral Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading 
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Dr CAM CALDER (National) 
: 
 It is a pleasure to rise and take a short call on the first reading of the Local Electoral Amendment Bill (No 2) and I am delighted that so far support seems to be unanimous in the House. The bill combines the changes of the Local Electoral Amendment Bill which was tabled in 2011 with further changes to electoral donation laws reflecting public concern about transparency and accountability of candidate donations particularly anonymous donations. 
The purpose of this bill is threefold. It will improve provisions for the conduct of local elections. It will increase transparency and accountability in relation to candidate donations particularly anonymous donations in response to the aforementioned concern and it is interesting to note at this point that Labour passed the current loose provisions around the anonymous donations. The National Government is rectifying this matter. This bill will strengthen the integrity of the local electoral system. 
It is our belief that improved transparency will help build public trust in the local electoral system. These local electoral reforms are part of National’s drive for better local government which also focuses on councils operating more efficiently and helping them to be more fiscally responsible. 
As well as limiting the size of an anonymous donation a candidate can retain up to $1500. In other provisions around donations the bill also increases flexibility for city and district councils to set ward boundaries to better reflect communities and prominent geographical features. As part of our drive for greater transparency candidates for local election will also be required to provide information about whether they live in the area and whether they are seeking election to more than one position. 
These changes reflect recommendations from the Justice and Electoral Committee’s inquiry into the 2010 local elections and also the recommendations from the Local Government Commission’s review of the Local Electoral Act. I commend this bill to the House.
Roy Eric: Financial Markets Conduct Bill — Second Reading 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Order! The time has come for the House to rise.  
Debate interrupted.
Young Jonathan: Financial Markets Conduct Bill — Second Reading 
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JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
: 
 Thank you very much for the contribution of the previous speaker the Hon Clayton Cosgrove. What a very convincing argument for investing in products that have got such strong guarantees as some of those available in the mixed-ownership model. 
This Financial Markets Conduct Bill is as you see one of the bigger bills that have been in this Parliament this year. It is over 500 pages in length; 300 or so are pieces of legislation that have been brought forward from other Acts and quite a number of pages represent new legislation. As we know the backdrop to this bill is the global financial crisis and the collapse of finance companies which have had a traumatic effect on the lives of many New Zealanders and have impaired the confidence of investors in our financial markets. We understand that having confidence and having a robust financial market are incredibly important for the ongoing expansion of our economy particularly around those listed companies. 
This bill largely completes the comprehensive programme of reforms in the financial sector that this Government has implemented over the past few years. These reforms include the introduction of the financial advisers’ regime the licensing of trustees and statutory supervisors and the establishment of the Financial Markets Authority. The Financial Markets Conduct Bill completes this comprehensive suite of reforms of financial market regulations. The bill will replace the financial market conduct regulations contained in a number of statutes—
Roy Eric: Financial Markets Conduct Bill — Second Reading 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Order! The member’s time has expired.
Roy Eric: Business of the House 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought. Is there anyone opposed to that? There is no objection. Leave is granted.
Roy Eric: Taxation (Annual Rates Returns Filing and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Order! [ 
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] Order! I am on my feet. I am just looking for the relevant Standing Order but it is where a member has been misquoted. The member has the opportunity only to correct the misquote not to enter into another debating phase. So if the member wishes to do that he should state where he was misquoted and tersely correct it.
Vote: Taxation (Annual Rates Returns Filing and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Taxation (Annual Rates Returns Filing and Remedial Matters Bill) be now read a third time. 
Ayes 105 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Bill read a third time.
Graham Kennedy: Taxation (Annual Rates Returns Filing and Remedial Matters) Bill — Third Reading 
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Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green) 
: 
 The Green Party rises again to address this Taxation (Annual Rates Returns Filing and Remedial Matters) Bill in the third reading. This bill has essentially run its course in this House. We have had our quota of mutual vitriol between the merits of Greece and Zimbabwe and whichever other role models we can hurl at each other in a negative way. 
Just to try to put it on a constructive basis so that Mr Bennett if he is following can respond in a like manner—constructively—let us just recognise what this bill does. It sets the annual rates of income tax for the current year it extends Working for Families tax credits to surviving spouses of deceased ACC claimants it allows deductions for expenditure on unsuccessful software development it clarifies that late payments are subject to GST and it increases tax rates on foreign-owned banks. 
 Among these provisions there are a few measures in the bill that the Green Party supports. For example the Inland Revenue Department found that the amount of tax currently paid in New Zealand by foreign-owned banks does not clearly reflect the economic reality of their banking business in New Zealand—true. But by and large the bill is symptomatic of the systemic failure of this Government’s fiscal policy. 
It reflects firstly regressive tax cuts that will result in the promotion of further inequality in this country. Secondly it is not succeeding in being fiscally neutral which is what this Government trumps as one of its main objectives. Thirdly it will push this country further into debt and into a worse fiscal position. It is for those fundamental reasons of basic fiscal policy that the Green Party will obviously continue to oppose and vote against this bill. 
What we need—and what we will have within a few years I think—is some green tax reform where we broaden the tax system bringing in a capital gains tax— 
David Bennett 
: Green tax for me! 
Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM 
: Yes Mr Bennett bringing in a capital gains tax and you will ultimately benefit. It will make it easier for income tax payers to live with less of a burden when we broaden the tax base. Secondly we will broaden and introduce eco-tax reform with resource rentals on the use of water. Thirdly we will make sure that the principle “pollution pays” means something. The day will come when this country will undergo substantive serious and far-reaching eco-tax reform and I know that the public are waiting for that to happen. The Green Party will oppose this bill in the third reading.