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Borrows Chester: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBorrows Chester: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8283. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): I call Chris Hipkins.
Doocey Matt: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDoocey Matt: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8281. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MATT DOOCEY (National—Waimakariri): I am rising in support of the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill. I must say in response to that last speaker Su’a William Sio that if I am fortunate enough to be in the House for the length of time that colleague has I hope I do not end up being as cynical and as unconstructive as that last member who spoke.Quite often in the last few weeks I have got up and spoken about bills pertaining to Canterbury. It is great to see the Government supporting Canterbury and in response I want to get up and support another region that is important for New Zealand’s growth and development—that is Auckland. I think it is only fair enough to support the biggest city.When I look at this bill I think I look at it in terms of efficiency effectiveness and economics. When we look at the detail we see the efficiency of reducing the quorum from three to two members the effectiveness of increasing the panel size and the economy of scale of allowing the panel to report back in stages. Overall I support this bill and commend it to the House. Thank you.
Hayes Joanne: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes Joanne: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8279. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOANNE HAYES (National):Ata mārie e Te Mana Whakawā ka huri au ki ngā mema o Te Whare Pāremata ka nui te mihi atu ki a koutou.[Peaceful morning to you Mr Deputy Speaker. I turn to the members of the House of Parliament: much appreciation to you collectively.]I rise to take a very short call on this bill. I am really pleased to hear that the Opposition supports this bill because the amendment bill is about the ability for the Auckland Unitary Plan Independent Hearings Panel to hear all submissions on the unitary plan and it is about the housing issues in Auckland. It is an opportunity as I said last night for people who have some of these idealistic ideas about what Auckland City should look like into the future whether it is a “Kumbaya” State or whatever it ends up being. At the end of the day this is a very short bill and it allows local government to get on and do what local government is going to do into the future for the benefit of Auckland. I am pleased to commend it to the House.
Roy Eric: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8277. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: This is a 5-minute call on behalf of the Green Party.
Foster-Bell Paul: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFoster-Bell Paul: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8277. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL FOSTER-BELL (National): E Te Mana Whakawā tēnā koe; e ngā mema o Te Whare Pāremata tēnā koutou katoa. In the second reading debate on the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill I just want to say that I am astounded that members opposite can take such a long time to say that they will vote for and actually agree with what we are trying to achieve with this bill because it is a very clear and simple piece of legislation. The key provisions are that it will reduce the quorum of the hearings for the Auckland Unitary Plan from three to two members allowing up to four hearings to be held concurrently. This should allow the council to complete its Auckland Unitary Plan hearings by July next year which is the legislated deadline.I see no need to filibuster this bill—it is a very simple piece of legislation. So I will not be giving one of the waffling speeches that we have heard from members opposite. This is an excellent bill. I commend it to the House.
Sittings of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSittings of the House[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8323. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Sittings of the HouseThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Members the House will suspend for the lunch break and resume at 2 p.m. for oral questions. Following oral questions the Committee of the whole House will resume under urgency. The House is—Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. The Government has no desire to progress the third reading on this day.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I thank the honourable Minister for that. Members the House is suspended until—Hon Gerry Brownlee: No it is finished.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Well we are breaking for lunch. [Interruption] There is no further business.
Vote: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8266. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill be now read a first time.Ayes 107New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 14Green Party 14.Bill read a first time.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8248. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party votewas called for on the question That the Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.Ayes 75New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 46New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14.Bill read a third time.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8235. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 48New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2.Noes 73New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 12; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.New clause 7 not agreed to.Bill reported with amendment.Report adopted.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8234. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That clause 5 as amended be agreed to.Ayes 107New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 14Green Party 14.Clause 5 as amended agreed to.Clause 6 agreed to.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8234. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the amendments be agreed to.Ayes 12New Zealand First 12.Noes 109New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendments not agreed to.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8234. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That clause 4 be agreed to.Ayes 107New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 14Green Party 14.Clause 4 agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 141 in the name of the Hon Anne Tolley to clause 5 be agreed to.Amendment agreed to.The question was put that the following amendments in the name of Darroch Ball to clause 5 be agreed to:delete subclause (2)(d); andafter subclause (2) add the following new subclauses:(3)Subsection (1) does not apply to any person that receives or has received a benefit that commenced on or after 20 May 2014.(4)Any person to which subsection (3) applies is entitled to and must be paid any additional benefit owed as if the amendments made by section 4 had not been made.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8234. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That clause 2 be agreed to.Ayes 75New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 46New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14.Clause 2 agreed to.Clause 3 agreed to.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8233. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 48New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2.Noes 73New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 12; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8233. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 48New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2.Noes 73New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 12; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 143 in the name of Jan Logie to clause 2 be agreed to.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8233. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8197. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill be read a second time.Ayes 75New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 46New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14.Bill read a second time.
Vote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8181. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill be now read a first time.Ayes 75New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 46New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14.Bill read a first time.
Vote: Returning Offenders (Management and Information) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Returning Offenders (Management and Information) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8149. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the Returning Offenders (Management and Information) Bill be now read a third time.Ayes 107New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 32; New Zealand First 12; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Abstentions 14Green Party 14.Bill read a third time.
Vote: Returning Offenders (Management and Information) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Returning Offenders (Management and Information) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8129. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.Clause 1 agreed to.Clause 2 agreed to.Bill reported with amendment.Report adopted.
Vote: Returning Offenders (Management and Information) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Returning Offenders (Management and Information) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8116. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the amendment be agreed to.Ayes 44New Zealand Labour 32; New Zealand First 12.Noes 77New Zealand National 59; Green Party 14; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Returning Offenders (Management and Information) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Returning Offenders (Management and Information) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8115. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the question That the question be now put.Ayes 63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes 58New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 12.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Amy Adams to clause 37 be agreed to:replace this clause with the following new clause:37Review by select committeeA select committee to be determined by the Clerk of the House of Representatives must 18 months after the commencement of this Act review the operation of this Act and prepare a report on that review.Amendment agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon David Parker to Part 2 be agreed to:insert in clause 9 “ and the details of any overseas conviction and overseas penalty for any such conviction of the returning offender” after “identifying particulars”.
Tisch Lindsay: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8272. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I am sorry to interrupt the honourable member. The time has come for me to leave the Chair.Debate interrupted.
Bishop Chris: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBishop Chris: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8272. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS BISHOP (National): When we talk about Auckland housing these days the two Phils come down to the House—Phil Goff and Phil Twyford. From Phil Twyford we got what we always get which is an angry bitter tirade about how much he does not like Nick Smith and how much he does not like all the Ministers in the National Government. From Phil Goff we got a campaign speech because that is what we get from Phil Goff these days—campaigning for the mayoralty of Auckland. As my good colleague Scott Simpson said he should have put an authorisation statement on those speeches. They were political advertising. It was actually not a bad speech from Phil. This is a sensible—
Simpson Scott: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8269. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): It is a pleasure to take a very brief call in the second reading debate. Even though it is late at night the member Phil Goff who has just resumed his seat has used the opportunity this evening to twice run his lines through for the campaign launch that he will be giving on Sunday 22 November. I commend him for running the practice lines. I think they are helpful. I think that they are good lines and he will no doubt get some traction with them. He makes a good point I think about how important it is to the regions and to the provinces—and in fact to the entire country—for Auckland to succeed.This piece of legislation will ensure that the hearings process on the unitary plan actually goes more smoothly than it has. It will be more efficient and more effective. Members across the House have I think given a very good account of the purposes of this bill earlier on in the first reading debate and I want to just also endorse the comments made by the Hon Phil Goff when he was addressing the Green Party. I would also endorse his comments and suggest that maybe the Green Party might like to at second reading reconsider its position because Auckland Council does want to have this legislation passed and it would be a good and useful thing if the Greens did do that. I commend this bill to the House.
Korako Nuk: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeKorako Nuk: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8265. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]NUK KORAKO (National): Tēnā koe e Te Māngai o Te Whare e mihi atu ki a koe mō tēnei pō. Before I begin talking about the bill I would also just like to acknowledge the short poroporoaki by Mr William Sio for a great Aucklander and a great New Zealander—Jonah Lomu. Kia ora. It has been interesting tonight listening to the debate on both sides of the House. When I got the “midnight shift” as they call it I thought it was going to be quite a drag but it has actually been a shift of enlightenment because I have heard from both sides of the House a really good overview of the passion that comes out of Auckland. I have heard a speech from a former mayor a potential mayoral candidate and a housing spokesperson and I have also heard an excellent introductory speech on this bill from this side of the House.This is just a short call on the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill. To me as the final speaker this bill provides the flexibility that is needed particularly around the recommendations that are proposed by the Auckland Unitary Plan and the council’s statutory deadline—and it is a deadline; it is 22 July 2016. The other thing is the components of the bill—the three main ones that actually deal with reducing the quorum and also with increasing the number of members from seven to 10 as we have heard so many times. Around the reporting factor of the bill it will also enable that instead of doing one report it can be done in stages. They are the major sorts of components.Just to highlight the fact though that this bill represents a great opportunity to ensure that the country’s largest planning process remains on track and becomes operative as soon as possible. That is the real essence of the bill itself. When we talk about Auckland it is not just about Aucklanders; it is actually about the whole of New Zealand because of Auckland being our largest and most populous city. I appreciate being able to take this short call and I commend the bill to the House. Kia ora.
Hayes Joanne: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes Joanne: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8263. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOANNE HAYES (National): I rise to take a very short call on the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill. The Auckland Unitary Plan Independent Hearings Panel stems from the principal Act—the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Act 2010. Its role is to hear submissions on the unitary plan and then to make recommendations to the Auckland Council as most of my colleagues have already discussed and spoken about in the House tonight.This amendment bill as many speakers have already spoken about tonight makes four changes to the principal Act which provides for the hearings panel—for some of the changes. The first one as we have heard is a reduction in the quorum from three to two members. Extra panel members are to be appointed. The bill clarifies that the panel may hold concurrent sessions and appoint alternate chairpersons and it enables the panel to make recommendations to the Auckland Council by 22 June 2016.This is a very important amendment bill for the people of Auckland and the Auckland Council. It is an opportunity for the people of Auckland to have their say to go and put their submissions in and maybe even—and I do not want to denigrate what the Greens said tonight about their “Kumbaya” type future and what Auckland may look like with neighbours all loving each other and being this whole community-type thing which I doubt will ever happen in Auckland. But anyway it is an opportunity for the people of Auckland to come in and be able to submit their plan to the hearings panel.As Mr Len Brown the Mayor of Auckland said the unitary plan will be the rule book for the future of Auckland. That is what Mr Brown said and I believe that that is what it is going to be. There are huge benefits as I have said for the people of Auckland. I have no hesitation in commending this bill to the House. Thank you.
Tisch Lindsay: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8262. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): I call David Seymour—5 minutes.
Tisch Lindsay: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8261. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): The next call is a split call. Jan Logie—5 minutes.
Foster-Bell Paul: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFoster-Bell Paul: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8261. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PAUL FOSTER-BELL (National):Tēnā koe e Te Mana Whakawā. In rising to speak on the Local Government Auckland (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill I do want to thank members of the Opposition who have indicated that they will support the bill in spite of some of the rhetoric we may have heard during their speeches—rhetoric that I can only assume is driven by the internecine machinations within their own parties.This is a very simple measure. It reduces the quorum for hearings on the Auckland Unitary Plan from three members to two. This is not an alien concept to us; we are doing the very same thing on our Education and Science Committee in Parliament—something with which Opposition parties are fully engaging. A reduced quorum will allow us to get through hearings in our inquiry into special needs. So this is not a new theme.Secondly it will allow up to four concurrent hearing sessions. This is a very practical measure to allow the panels to get through the work. It increases the number of panel members from seven to 10 and it will allow the hearings to be reported back in stages as they complete pieces of work rather than as an entire piece of work at the very end. This is a practical measure from a practical Government. I welcome support from the Opposition and commend the bill to the House.
Tisch Lindsay: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8261. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Sorry to interrupt the honourable member. His time has expired.
Muller Todd: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMuller Todd: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8256. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TODD MULLER (National—Bay of Plenty): I rise to say a few words on the Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill. “What a shame.” is all I can say to your previous ruling Mr Assistant Speaker. I was all ready to go. It was almost general debate time. But anyway—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): Order! I have had to warn other relatively new members recently that when a ruling has been made by the Chair it is not something for members to comment on. The member must just move on with the debate. [Interruption] Order!TODD MULLER: Is it not great to be part of such a participatory democracy particularly up in Auckland? When this bill was first introduced and we were thinking about how likely it was for people to be involved in the submission process I am sure none of us had any sense of the thousands of people who would become involved quite to the level that they have.We have heard one or two good speeches thus far particularly the previous speech by Mr Goff who was so enthusiastic about this bill and the opportunity to make a difference. Was it not such a contrast to have the negativity and depression of the subsequent Labour speech? Will it not be incredible in a year’s time when he is the mayor and the Opposition spokesman comes in to talk about housing? How very depressing for you “Your Worship”.However as Mr Goff mentioned there have been many many thousands of submissions already heard and there are many many thousands still to go. It makes sense does it not when we have an opportunity here to be able to consider a bill that allows those submissions to be heard in a way that gives them due opportunity to contribute. The last thing we would want is for those submitters to have the opportunity to impart their views about the future of Auckland—as expressed in the draft Auckland Unitary Plan—to be constrainedin any way.Of course what we have here are three particular areas relating to the reduction in the quorum for the hearings sessions. That is very appropriate. There is to be an increase in the size of the panel and I think most important the Auckland Unitary Plan Independent Hearings Panel will be allowed to make recommendations as it completes a particular topic as opposed to waiting until all of those topics that are included in the Auckland Unitary Plan are complete.In many respects the reason that we are having this conversation is that we are almost the victims of our own success. We had no sense that there would be such involvement by the Auckland people. They have become involved and it is absolutely appropriate to give them this opportunity. That is what this bill enables and that is why I support it at its first reading this evening.
Mallard Trevor: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Local Government (Auckland Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8256. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): I thank the member for his comments. Before I call Todd Muller I am going to issue a bit of a warning. I think that at least three of the last four speeches have been very much just at the edge of the bill. I know that we are sitting under urgency and that gives a bit more latitude but I am going to ask members now to focus more of their comments on the bill.
Smith Stuart: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSmith Stuart: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8248. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]STUART SMITH (National—Kaikōura): This has clearly been a long night. I think one of the members over there is almost asleep and dreaming given those last few words. It is actually my pleasure to have the last words in this debate and it has been a wide-ranging debate. I think there has been agreement across the House that there is an error in the legislation and the issue is now how far back the decision goes as far as the applications for review. Being a good Minister and a good Government is about balance and we have an excellent Minister for Social Development who has struck the right balance. With that it is my pleasure to commend this bill to the House. Thank you.
Parmar Parmjeet: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeParmar Parmjeet: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8246. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr PARMJEET PARMAR (National): I am taking this short call to support this bill in its third reading. The 1996 tax reduction and social policy legislation technically provided for the benefit stand-down period to finish a day earlier than it is intended to but the explanatory note clearly states that the stand-down period should be a full calendar week. That means it should be for 7 days; that means the benefit should start after the 7 days of the stand-down period finish. So we see that the practice has been in line with the intention of the bill but the legislation has not been in line with the bill. It is important that people are treated equally under the law and that the legislation reflects the treatment that people receive.It is unfortunate that since 1998—since we had this practice—this was not picked up by any Government until last year when it was picked up by the court. We know that the promotional campaign is already on to inform people inform clients of Work and Income that they have the opportunity to seek a review of their entitlement regarding the stand-down period.Finally I want to thank all the people those who have put in the effort to bring this bill before the House under urgency. I support this bill and I commend it to the House.
Seymour David: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSeymour David: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8245. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT): I rise on behalf of the ACT Party in support of this bill. We have had a couple of contributions from the Green members characterised by melodrama and an exhibition of empathy. The reality is that there are always transaction costs for any kind of system. Whether it is a company or an insurance programme there is actually a cost of administering it and making the connections between the different parts of the machinery that need to be made. And that is one of the reasons that in most systems people design we have a statute of limitations. We say that things that happened a long time ago are going to be very very costly to relitigate now and so we are going to draw a line at some point in the past and not litigate prior to that.If you would like a practical example what we are dealing with here is a kind of insurance scheme where if you fall on hard times you get a benefit from the Government. If for example my car insurance company was to tell me that it was going to put up my premiums and add excessive costs to me and everybody else who contributed to the company so that it could relitigate a very large number of low-value claims stretching back 17 years then the common-sense empathic response from someone who really cares about the long-term overall welfare of the people of Aotearoa New Zealand would be to say: “That is not a good use of resources.” They would not come into this House and give us melodrama and exhibit their flow of empathy; they would actually say that is not a good use of resources.What we are doing here in this House tonight is saying that rather than paying excessive transaction costs to relitigate long-lost transactions that happened a long time ago we are actually going to set a statute of limitations and move on and deal with the real business of empathically serving New Zealanders with an efficient welfare State. That is what this bill is about. Hopefully one day the Green Party members will pull their heads out and support similar sensible measures. Thank you.
Roy Eric: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8245. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: A 5-minute call—I call David Seymour.
Davidson Marama: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDavidson Marama: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8245. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MARAMA DAVIDSON (Green): Tēnā koe Mr Deputy Speaker. Tēnā koutou e Te Whare. I would stand by a bill that would legislate to clarify current practice but this is not that bill. As I said at the beginning of the first reading retrospective legislation to deny people what is owed them is an affront to the rule of law. When that affront to the rule of law harshly impacts on those already doing it tough then that is a stain on a civil society on a transparent society and a stain on good governance. This is bad governance because the Government cannot budget to meet its legal obligations.I have applied for this legal entitlement and will be paying forward all funds received to the Auckland Action Against Poverty group. The Auckland Action Against Poverty group is an advocate for those people with the least power and those people who have their power cut off and without them supporting people like Kay Brereton this blunder would have stayed secret. Let us role model good governance put right a wrong and for people to receive their legal entitlement.I have listened to the hours of this debate and the non-debate as well and the silence and I am disappointed that the standard being put forward by the Government is that: “Oh well they did it too.” Really? Is that our standard? I do not think it should be at all. It is disappointing to know that this process of making decisions relies on people to stay disconnected and to feel that the legislation being proposed does not have relevance to the realities of their ordinary lives and I am dismayed by that.I do not want to forget—I do not want to forget—what it is like when $20 or when $10 will make a big difference. I remember scraping that together to feed a family of five. Actually that is luxurious for many people—$20 is a luxurious family dinner for many people. I do not want to forget that. I hope this House does not just remember it but reaches back to that connection and understands those realities and that we are relying on those people to feel disconnected from what we are doing here.So this is another slap in the face for the tens of thousands of those not holding the balance of power who have been consistently getting bad outcomes from this Parliament during the tenure of the current Government. It is time they received some help from this place which is why I am proud to oppose this bill. Kia ora.
Naylor Jono: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNaylor Jono: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8244. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JONO NAYLOR (National): I rise to take a short call on this because as was said by Poto Williams earlier on this is a very simple bill. It does not need a lot of explanation. It has certainly been well canvassed for the 2 hours and 50 minutes that it took through the Committee stage—although there was not a lot said from this side of the House; the bill speaks for itself you see. It does not need a lot of extra input because it has actually been well drafted and well put together by a good Minister who is dealing with what is actually essentially a very simple remedial matter.On that there is not a lot more to be said other than the fact that this will actually put something right that needed putting right. It is good that we are getting it done quickly and getting it sorted so that there is no more ambiguity going on for a long period of time. I commend this bill to the House.
Muller Todd: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMuller Todd: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8240. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TODD MULLER (National—Bay of Plenty): What a great privilege it is to be able to stand up here and make a couple of comments with regard to the third and final reading of the Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill. Was it not great to follow Alfred Ngaro who put into context some of the interesting comments that we have heard in the last hour or so when he talked about a bit of history in regard to parties that have put historical retrospective validating legislation into the House. For those who have been totally opposed to this suddenly hearing some of their history repeated back to them you could tell it was not particularly comfortable. It was a shame that he stopped. It was a shame he did not carry on for another 2 or 3 minutes.We are retrospectively validating 17 years of policy intent. Of course some of that covered our party but interestingly it also covered the time when the Labour Government was in power with the Minister for Social Development and Employment Steve Maharey and of course towards the end of that terrible Government the Hon Ruth Dyson no doubt had officials come up and talk about the stand-down period being 7 days and the commencement of the benefit being on the 8th day. As the Minister she would have nodded and said: “Of course that is the policy intent. I’m glad the legislation reflects that.” Alas though a legislative error was subsequently identified and ultimately we had to find the balance between fairness for those who have been caught up in that process and ensuring that what we come up with has appropriate fiscal prudence. We have done that. It is a great bill and I commend the bill to the House.
Roy Eric: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8237. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am sorry to interrupt the member. Her time has expired.
Goldsmith Paul: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGoldsmith Paul: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8235. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs) on behalf of theMinister for Social Development: I move That the Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. The welfare system delivers assistance to more than 1 million New Zealanders each year and it is important that people are treated consistently and as intended by the Government.The Government’s policy that benefits commence on the day after a stand down has always been clear. This technical error discovered in the legislation last year is providing people with an additional day of benefit that they were not intended to have. This is not right. The legislation needs to be changed to avoid unintended costs to the Crown and to the taxpayer.The bill validates previous ministries’ practice but also provides as a measure of the Government’s good faith a reasonable opportunity for clients who feel their interests have been compromised to seek recompense. The bill corrects the technical error and ensures that legislation reflects the Government’s consistent and longstanding policy. I commend this bill to the House.
Tisch Lindsay: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8233. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Yes I will be putting the six clauses separately so you will have the chance to exercise your preference at that point.Clause 1 agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 142 in the name of Carmel Sepuloni to clause 2 be agreed to.
Sepuloni Carmel: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSepuloni Carmel: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8233. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CARMEL SEPULONI (Junior Whip—Labour): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. There are particular clauses that we want to support and then at least one clause that we want to oppose. So can I just clarify with you that we can vote clause by clause rather than as a whole.
Tisch Lindsay: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Social Security (Commencement of Benefits) Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 17 November 2015. Volume:710;Page:8233. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): No you are canvassing a point that could well have come up and did come up during the course of the debate. That is a debating point. It has got nothing to do with my putting the closure. The Committee will decide whether we accept the closure or not. I intend to put it.