Peters Winston: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Peters Winston: Fisheries Amendment Bill (No 3) — Instruction to Committee In Committee 
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Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
: 
 Let me just tell the National Party why it is that the House is having an argument on the issue of Maori obtaining quota in the international zone beyond the 200-mile limit. That is not a policy that I believe in and it is not a policy that New Zealand First supports but I want to remind the National Party who was responsible for this debacle coming about so that if there should be a discovery in the Ross Sea Dependency in respect of a fishing resource then automatically the National Government would have conveyed and transported to the Maori people the right of 20 percent. 
Hon David Carter 
: That’s rubbish. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: No it is not rubbish and I will tell the member why. I was here at the time and I can recall that it was October— 
Hon David Carter 
: You voted for it. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: I did not vote for it. There we go! There is the National Party at its worst. They do not know anything about history. They refuse to face the facts. They have their blood and DNA and fingerprints all over the issue as culpable and as guilty as one can get and they stand around saying: “But it wasn’t me!” Who was it that came into the House when Doug Graham was the Minister in charge of Waitangi settlements in October of 1992 and passed the Sealord’s deal? It was all these gentlemen behind me here all these National Party guys—and if they were not here they were electorate chairmen saying: “Good on you Doug. Go for it.” [ 
Interruption 
] We can tell from the voluminous noise that they are as guilty as sin. 
Hon David Carter 
: You were in the National Party then. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: Oh no! They cannot blame Winston Peters and they cannot blame New Zealand First because unlike every other member of Parliament Labour and National one member refused to support it and that is the member who is speaking right now. And what happened the next day? Well having pointed out the fallacy of having no mandate to do what they were doing either on the Maori or the European side having no consultation no proper process they went ahead regardless and the next day they expelled me from the National Party caucus. 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: Good job. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: See what I mean? Here sit these people; they get up and they make all these speeches on things like the Waitangi Tribunal the Waitangi industry law and order and immigration and now on fishing of all things and having written the whole criteria they stand here and make these empty hollow shallow baseless speeches and expect good honest New Zealanders to believe them. 
I have been in politics a while—not long enough obviously—but I have been in politics a while and I have seen some examples of impertinence cheek and gall but that last speech beats them all. That speech made by Mr Heatley before that beats all does it not? Mind you I heard him telling the people up in Whangarei that he believed that kahawai should go into the quota management system. That is what he said. This morning I found he has done a somersault. Even though he sent out 5000 letters saying where he stood apparently with the National Party we cannot be certain. It all depends on what time of the month it is or what month it is. This was only 6 weeks ago. I was there. I could not believe what he said. But anyway he has done a somersault. But I go back to my point. New Zealand First will not be supporting this bill. Unlike other parties our consistent position is— 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: Is this the scampi man—more scampi? 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: I say this to the member: “Go outside and say it and I’ll sue you too sunshine.” Oh yes! He can go outside and join his mates David Carter and Ken Shirley. I am very happy—I do not care how many smart alecs I have to face. We will do them all. [ 
Interruption 
] He is always in court but he never wins. 
Hon David Carter 
: Where’s the 300 grand? 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: David Carter is not going to win. I tell the member that if he wins I will resign. But he will not. He will be screaming out for mercy and so will his lawyers. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Clem Simich) 
: The member will come back to the part. 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: Where did Ross put the money? 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: When did Ross put a paper bag over the member’s head? I do not know but he should have kept it there. 
Hon Dr Nick Smith 
: Tell us where Ross put the money. 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS 
: It is amazing is it not? Those members make accusations inside the House and in the same way I can remember them all saying: “Winston what if it all works out? What are you going to say Winston when it all works out?”. What I am saying today is what I said back then. It will not work out and it is not working out and we do not support it today.