Collins JudithHon JUDITH COLLINS (National—Papakura): Thank you Madam Chair. Well I am disappointed with that member who's resumed his seat Greg O'Connor that he would take the opportunity to attack a very longstanding member of Parliament who left this year. I actually think it's the sort of thing that people don't do in this House and I'm sorry he has done it and perhaps he needs to get a few lessons from someone who's been here a bit longer—very disappointing from a former police officer who should know better.Having said that I was very interested in the contribution of my colleague the Hon Alfred Ngaro. I thought it was very informative and it helped I think the committee to gain some idea about why this is an excellent bill started by the National Government to get rid of the Families Commission. I say get rid of" because that's exactly what I always wanted to do—get rid of the Families Commission. I have been—Hon Andrew Little: You never did it.Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Well we did actually; we put the bill in. And of course the Families Commission—[Interruption] Yet another contribution from the very angry member a Mister a Minister Andrew—what's his name—Little.Anyway let's go back to the bill. This bill is an excellent bill because the Families Commission started in 2002 and we all know why it started. Having listened to the Government members you'd think it just sort of turned up one day under a National Government. Oh no no no no—it started under a Labour Government and that was the price for part of the coalition deal with United Future. You'll remember Mr Peter Dunne. That was how they kept their coalition together—they needed to have that. The Families Commission was also a great place to put such other worthy people as Dr Rajen Prasad and other outstanding contributors to New Zealand.I'm not sure though having heard that there have been—what—150 160 papers or something written by them how many of them have been read. I'm not sure. I'd like a show of hands in the Chamber. Anybody want to contribute and acknowledge that they've read too many of them? Yes the Minister in the chair Carmel Sepuloni; she values the commission but here she is championing a bill started by National to get rid of it. Simeon Brown: A hand up over here Judith.Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Oh and a hand over here. Where? Jan Logie—have you read any of them?Jan Logie: I have.Hon JUDITH COLLINS: She's fantastic isn't she? That's what you do when you've got more time on your hands than some of us.I think that it is a great bill and of course the only reason the Families Commission was ever there in the first place was because of Peter Dunne the Hon Peter Dunne.Kieran McAnulty: How did you not win the leadership?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Who was that young man over there with all the facial hair—with all that facial hair? What's his name? I don't think we've seen him before in the Chamber Madam Chair. I think he must be a new contributor.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams): Order! I know it's late on Thursday afternoon but—Hon Member: He's gone as red as that Labour box.Hon JUDITH COLLINS: He has gone as red as that Labour box hasn't he? It's about as red as his hair too isn't it?Anyway apart from that it is a great day when unanimity can break out around Parliament and we can wave goodbye to a really silly institution set up so that we can all tell everybody how to bring up children and to have families. I always think it is pretty easy really. If you want to have a good life for your kids be good parents. It seems to work pretty well for most people and strangely enough all of that's been done without reading one of those papers. But it did keep people employed and that's a good thing. Dr Rajen Prasad was happy. He was employed and various other worthies and notable people in New Zealand with lots of awards and things—and I think you know that's a good thing. It kept them off the streets. It didn't keep him out of Parliament though; he turned up in Parliament for the Labour Party for one term I think.But having said that it's probably contributed almost nothing to New Zealand but it did keep a Labour Government in place and it did certainly help to keep a National-led Government in place. Anything that keeps a National-led Government in place must be actually quite a good thing because as most people know—everyone I associate with agrees—a National-led Government is always better for New Zealand than a Labour-led Government and day in day out I'm reminded of that in question time and in this House.But anyway isn't it wonderful to see that this bill is coming through? I'd like to congratulate my colleagues who were able to get this through because we've finally finally helped to end a career—along with Mr Greg O'Connor who wants to take full credit."