SpeechDARROCH BALL (NZ First): Firstly I just want to thank the House for seeing this bill through to select committee but also seeing the bill—from what I've heard from the comments—for what it is which is not a punitive measure or doesn't want to bring any punitive measures but puts around structure and support and early intervention. That's precisely the intent and I think that—it's my belief anyway—that's what's missing in the early stages of the youth justice system and I think this bill will go a long way to do that.I take the points from both sides of the House that because not only is this bill a multi-layered complex bill but the whole youth justice system is complicated—why youth offend in the first place what's the best way of dealing with individual youth; it would vary. So I think that select committee is the best place for it to be to hear from all the stakeholders involved including not only the victims of crime but those who have been youth offenders themselves and how the system dealt with them how they felt that the system worked for them or failed for them and how we can make it better because ultimately that's what we're supposed to be doing in this place.I think that one of the members from the Labour Party mentioned some of the stats and I think that we've got to be very careful about what stats we use and not only that but look a bit deeper than the surface of what those stats are actually saying. I'll give you a prime example: The youth crime rate has for a long time been measured not by how many offences how many offenders or how many victims there are of youth crime but by how many young people end up in Youth Court. So we've just been discussing for a long time the fact that 80 percent of young people don't end up in Youth Court and they can offend 20 30 40 times before they get to Youth Court and get prosecuted and then they're counted once. So we've got to be careful about seeing how many people who have ended up in Youth Court and see the number go down or up see how that's working and whether it's not working or working.I'd just like to point out a couple of other reports from 2019. In the Youth Justice Indicators Summary Report it showed that 70 percent of all 16-year-old offenders end up in adult court within two years. That's more than two-thirds of all 16-year-olds who go through the Youth Court are processed through the adult court when they are older. It's stated that youth who are committing serious crime has also increased from 2010. In 2017 over that 12 months it has increased by 10 percent on the year before. Even on youth in remand—and I take the comments from Dr Nick Smith about those on bail and breaching bail—Oranga Tamariki found and this was last year that the vast majority of all custodial remands actually occurred in cases where youth were already on bail. That means that the youth was given bail but then either reoffended or breached their bail conditions.Between the period 2011-2016 almost half of all youth on bail reoffended and those with three or more bail breaches doubled from 20 to 40 percent. Of those in custody 94 percent of them either breached bail or reoffended whilst on bail. So it's a mixed bag and I think that we need to be very careful about looking at the stats and what stats we use and—again—what's behind those stats. That's why I think it's a really good thing that this bill will be going through to select committee and this House will be given the opportunity to hear from the experts and look deeper into the statistics on how our youth justice system is or isn't working and how we can make it better. Thank you Mr Speaker. I commend this bill to the House.