Ryall Tony: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
Ryall Tony: Foreshore and Seabed Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee 
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Hon TONY RYALL (National—Bay Of Plenty) 
: 
 I would like to speak to the various purposes of this bill and just observe that there are many many contradictions confusions and conundrums in this bill which will be causing never-ending problems for Parliament in the years to come. 
The issue with the legislation is this: the problems will not be seen next week they will not be seen before Christmas and they will not be seen next year; but 2 or 3 years later the problems caused by this legislation will be seen at Mount Maunganui Papamoa Maketu and throughout the rest of this country. New Zealanders will ask why Winston Peters travelled up and down the country telling the people of New Zealand that this legislation was OK. Government members must be laughing all the way back to their offices. They have brought in this legislation and Winston Peters is going to sell it for them. He is going to lose whatever shreds of credibility he has left when he has to go around New Zealand defending this legislation. He is the man the Government is looking to to sell this legislation.  
Marc Alexander 
: The poodle. 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: No Winston Peters could never be described as a poodle. This bill will haunt Parliament in generations to come. Only a few of us in this Chamber will still be here when Parliament has to wipe this legislation and start again. This legislation is going to be a weeping sore in this country in generations to come because it lays nothing but confusion and division before the people of this country. 
This Government cannot answer basic questions like this: if we can have a foreshore and seabed reserve and a marine reserve and an aquamarine management area and a mataitai and a taiapure how do they all fit with each other? If we have a foreshore and seabed reserve can we also have a marine reserve? Mr Peters said that we cannot. The officials say that we can. That tells us we will have no end of confusion over who runs these things. It is fine for a few city members to come down to the Chamber and argue why we should have this divisive legislation but for those of us who represent coastal New Zealand who are at the forefront of where the conflicts will be I want to tell this Government that this bill is a recipe for disaster and division. And the problems will not be seen in the next couple of years. It is in the next few years that people will see them. It is in 2 3 or 4 years’ time that the conflicts and the division will come forward. 
They will come forward for this reason: when people are given rights to exercise control they will eventually want to exercise those rights. It may not happen tomorrow but it will happen. What that will mean is that regardless—[ 
Interruption 
] Government members may laugh but I say to Mr Fairbrother that he will not be here when Parliament has to deal with the mess that this Government and the New Zealand First Party are leaving this country. Mr Peters is being used by this Government to try to sell to this country what is a divisive and ineffective policy. If Mr Peters has read this bill as well as he read his Cabinet papers then I am worried.