Henare Peeni; Reti ShaneHon PEENI HENARE (Labour): Tēnā koe. Thank you Madam Chair and thank you for allowing us to continue to prosecute Part 2. I want to draw the Minister of Health's attention to Schedule 2 which is on page 18 of this bill and it sets out there its intent to repeal seemingly innocuous titles in some of the legislation that's listed there. It's got the Oranga Tamariki Act 1989 and the Oversight of Oranga Tamariki System Act 2022. If we're going to repeal the role of the chief executive of the Māori Health Authority in those particular pieces of legislation in light of the Ombudsman's report in light of the challenges that Oranga Tamariki are struggling with at the moment I want to propose to the Minister here if he is of a mind that in those particular Acts it describes some of the positions that will work with respect to those Acts in looking after our tamariki under the Oranga Tamariki Act. In fact it names the Director-General of Health; it names Health New Zealand more broadly speaking. But it doesn't actually put in there anything to do with the Māori directorate in Te Manatū Hauora or a role specifically to identify Māori with respect to Oranga Tamariki. And we know the statistics there; I won't go over those.But I wonder and my question to the Minister is is he of a mind to ensure that the Māori voice with respect to repealing the Māori Health Authority and the role of the chief executive in those pieces of legislation—it's just going to continue to silence the Māori voice there. There can be an expectation that Health New Zealand will continue its role and that's fine but as I read through those particular—Hon Willie Jackson: Madam Chair?Hon PEENI HENARE: Sorry I was trying to catch my breath. Ha ha! I was trying to catch my breath. So it does describe a number of roles but with such an important role that Te Aka Whai Ora was playing with respect to these Acts my question is pretty simple: just if the Minister is of a mind to make sure that the role that Te Aka Whai Ora have played—he's already talked about how it'll be a straight transfer of those staff. It's already been described that the chief executive won't be. But the role was important—the role that those staff were playing in making sure that the Oranga Tamariki Act 1989 and the Oversight of Oranga Tamariki System Act 2022 continue to do what they're intended to do and that's to continue to support our whānau.The final one I have on that one is the Therapeutic Products Act 2023. Now we heard in the House yesterday how the Therapeutic Products Act is a bad bill or a bad piece of legislation etc. It is quite simple in that repeal—that it once again takes out Te Aka Whai Ora the Māori Health Authority. The question I have with respect to that is: is the intention from this Government and the Minister with respect to the work that was done on rongoā Māori which was protected by Te Aka Whai Ora as it went through the Therapeutic Products Bill as we were putting it in at the time—is there any provisional thought by the Minister or this Government and I suspect we might come there at some point in time in the future again when the Therapeutic Products Bill will be put into the House. Is there an intention to continue to offer the kinds of protections to rongoā Māori and how can that be done if we're repealing the role of the Māori Health Authority in that particular Act? Those are my questions.Hon Dr SHANE RETI (Minister of Health): Thank you Madam Chair. I thank the member the Hon Peeni Henare for his questions. This is actually quite a narrow bill and the question was raised around Schedule 2 which is mostly required to adapt to places in the legislation where the Māori Health Authority appears. Clearly if it doesn't exist any more that legislation needs to be changed.We've talked about the Māori voice quite extensively through the debate yesterday and so I don't envisage covering that again. However even though people will transfer of course many of those functions will also transfer into health. We shouldn't imagine that those functions are disappearing. They'll transfer into Health New Zealand; they'll transfer into the Māori Health Authority. There were some questions around the Therapeutic Products Bill but it is outside the scope of this bill.