Cosgrove Clayton: Taxation (Annual Rates Returns Filing and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Cosgrove Clayton: Taxation (Annual Rates Returns Filing and Remedial Matters) Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 18 September 2012. Volume:684;Page:5334. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE 
: Speaking to the point of order what the member is doing is expressing an opinion about my speech and the content of the bill. He is not the Minister. In fact the Minister of Revenue will be here somewhere but he is not in the chair. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Order! 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE 
: It is for the Minister to make statements on that. Unless the member is taking advice from officials and is going to table some advice it is a debating set of issues that he has raised. We should get on with the debate. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Look the member justifiably raised a point of order and said the member was outside the scope of the bill. I invited the member to continue while I read the particular point that he was at and that is what I have done. I have actually now read clause 106 and I think the member might be referring to new section 33AA(1)(c) inserted by clause 106 which states: “has total income of $200 or less or derives no schedular payment other than an amount or proportion of an amount for which the Commissioner …”. Is that the section the member was referring to? 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE 
: I am reading from a number of them including that one. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: OK so I think he is drawing a wide bow but in the context of the debate thus far he is probably no further away than some other members were. 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. [ 
Interruption 
] This is a point of order. This issue was raised I think prior to the dinner break and post the dinner break for about an hour and a half. No Chair has ruled that it is out of scope. The Minister in the chair has not challenged any speaker except a member decides to have an interpretation of legislation and has interrupted the debate a number of times. That is trifling with the Chair and interrupting speeches and you should deal with it. It is a debating point. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I will choose whom I deal with. I have told the member that he is inside the scope with regard to everybody else and it is out of order for him to raise the matter in the way he has just done. I ask him to continue with his speech. 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE 
: Thank you and can I thank the senior whip for exposing his lack of skill and knowledge about this bill and also thank Maggie Barry. If anybody can talk about grace of course Maggie Barry can. But we will not talk about putting the old tumbleweed back at the back of the garden. 
So where colleagues did we leave off? Where did we leave off? We were talking about the great reform within this bill as reflected in the Budget. What we have seen over the last couple of minutes is that it is the old sort of Captain Mainwaring. Remember the Home Guard the old cold steel? They do not like it up ’em over there. They do not like it highlighted because they are embarrassed about it. But the facts are that that is what they did. That was the sort of big-hit reform that they tried to cover up. 
Where is the reduction in compliance costs plan in this legislation? We have heard about the computer system and all sorts of reforms that are dependent on electronic media within the Inland Revenue Department but there is no money to actually action it is there? No. Oh they are all very silent now. Even the tumbleweed is quite silent. They are all very silent now. 
Hon David Carter 
: They’re bored. 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE 
: Well people are not bored with Mr Carter—not down my way. We are looking forward to doing him slowly. This is what the big reform was in this legislation. It is mean-spirited and it actually does not contribute to New Zealand’s economic growth one iota but simply highlights the lack of ideas. They have got lots of plans and no implementation lots of task forces but no implementation and they are out of ideas. The only idea they have got for generating a bit of money in the economy is to flog off the family silver—and once it has gone it has gone—and take a few dollars under clause 106 from the odd paper boy. So the economic integrity is in tatters. When we talk about Mr Banks and signatures if we refer to clause 104 as we have done their political and moral integrity is in tatters. They have no ideas and they have no plan apart from the little 200 bucks paper boy tax.