Xu-Nan LawrenceDr LAWRENCE XU-NAN (Green): Kia ora thank you so much Madam Speaker. When we're looking at this particular bill there are multiple parts to this. So there are two major elements we're looking at. The first of them is the repeal of the log traders and forest advisers and the second part is to do with the legal harvesting assurance. Before we talk about some of these I just want to kind of give the broader picture that when we're looking at something like forestry we're looking at an ecosystem at multiple perspectives and in the context of this House multiple portfolios that come into play. We have also already heard from our forestry spokesperson Hūhana Lyndon but also in this context we are going to be looking for engagement from the agriculture perspective from the environment perspective and in this context from me in a trade perspective when we are looking at the bigger picture of forestry. The first thing that we were looking at—the intention that was introduced a few years ago around the log traders and forestry advisers is around the standardisation and the transparency that it will provide. We have already heard from my colleague Hūhana Lyndon that when we are looking at this it is to provide small entities and small groups with the best opportunity to benefit from something like this; having that availability and the genuine personal stories that we have heard that ability to hear and having that access and the confidence to the forestry advisers and this is something that this particular bill will be removing. So that level of transparency is absolutely crucial. The second thing you know I want to raise—and this is something that I'm sure we'll tease out again in the committee stage in lieu of a select committee—is around this idea as we heard before of thinning and harvesting. This is where the environmental component comes in really handy and it's incredibly crucial because we have seen the danger and the harm both to our environment but also to people and to livelihoods when things are not harvested and when timber is not thinned correctly. Our heart goes out and we acknowledge every single person today who is currently suffering in the East Coast and we also acknowledge the work that our colleagues in this House are currently doing within their respective electorates that are affected as a result of the state of emergency in the East Coast. For some of those forestry is so important and the way that we harvest is so important for those regions to ensure that healthy environment that people across the board that ecosystem we're looking at isn't going to be ruined. So this is again something that's going to be really really important and to tie it into my portfolio around trade and also in this particular case the Hon Todd McClay's other hat other than forestry is looking at how this system when we are looking at the transparency and the protection and everything that this particular bill that we are repealing has in terms of our current trade agreements and particularly some of our most recent trade agreements with the EU and UK—granted these are not areas that potentially we are exporting some of those woods and we're looking at other forms of exports but within those agreements there are specific requirements for environmental standards specific requirements to environmental and labour protection. This is something that is also going to be really crucial and I am really looking forward to the opportunity to get some clarification from the Minister during the committee stage of how without something like this do we ensure that the same level of protection is in place and the same level of equity for our small forestry operators will continue to be in place? So this is something that I am looking forward to continuing discussing during the committee stage but unfortunately at this stage with the lack of information we cannot support this bill.