Tuiono TeanauTEANAU TUIONO (Green): Kia ora Madam Speaker. Like the other members around the House I would also like to acknowledge the whānau up in New Lynn the impacted whānau and acknowledge that it's been a tough time for them—tough time out West; the lockdowns and then to have that tragedy happen for them as well. So the Greens our hearts go out to them as well—acknowledging the impact on close family and also the work that many of the community members of the perpetrator who tried to wrap support around the individual to try to deescalate him from his extremist beliefs and making sure that we also wrap support around that community as well.Also I acknowledge that this bill passes within the context of what happened on March 15 in 2019. And again thoughts to the whānau—our Muslim whānau—down there in Ōtautahi and the rebuilding and the reconnecting that they have had to do and the journey that has been tremendously heavy for them and also for all of us at this particular time. From that we saw the many recommendations from the royal commission as well. There's a number of them—there's round about 44—and to really actually give those recommendations the space that they need that really takes time. So a lot of the opposition from our perspective comes from that lack of time—what appears to be the haste in this bill. I'm glad that some members around the House are comfortable with the speed of that but that's not the same for some of our community—some of the communities that I'm connected with.I reflect on I think in the last sitting or maybe the one before that when we passed legislation to speed up the reviewing of the GCSB and the SIS because that was part of the recommendations for the royal commission report where as part of due process it was really important that we dealt with what happened there in a timely fashion. But it seems to me that we are in this case putting the cart before the horse. That's because there are many questions that the SIS and the GCSB must answer—must answer. One of those questions from me is around the allocation of resources. We hear it all the time from our communities that the authorities have learnt their lessons and now they're going to be focusing on right-wing extremism and in particular the rising tide of white supremacy but we need to actually see that that is actually happening. We have to see it in terms of the numbers the amount of time that they are actually spending specifically on those types of individuals and on those groups as well because often what you find is that you have the talk and then you find out as happened on March 15 that they were looking completely in the wrong direction—they were looking in the wrong direction. Instead of looking for white supremacists they were watching our Muslim whānau and they were completely distracted. So in order for us to really get a sense of moving forward with this we need to actually have some answers to those questions.I'd like to acknowledge the work of the Justice Committee as well. It was a very heavy kaupapa. I know on a lot of these issues there is consensus. We all want the safety for our families. We all want the safety of our communities. We all want what's best for all of us living here in this whenua as well. But I am concerned about the balance—the balancing of keeping people safe while also making sure that we uphold human rights. And in order to get that balance that balance takes time. That balance takes time in order to make sure that we don't by mistake target the wrong audiences and target the wrong communitiesWe've seen this before. If people remember back in 2001 we had the war on terror the towers went down and so of course New Zealand jumped on board and passed the 2002 Terrorism Suppression Act. At that time many Māori communities social justice groups and environmental groups said Hey if these people don't find terrorists they will come looking for us." and they did. In 2007 we had the Urewera raids where they raided our whānau in the Ureweras and Ruātoki and across the country as well. They also raided social justice activists and environmental activists as well and that was because we had not considered the implications of taking something that's happening internationally in the national context and in the domestic context. And in order to do that you actually really need to take the communities with you. It's one thing to listen to them but it's another thing to actually walk that journey with them. So I think it's also really important that we actually do that and I don't think that's happening in this particular case.Secondly the new planning or preparation offence has been characterised by some experts as thought crimes—difficult to define in practice or defend against in legal proceedings. The warrantless search and seizure powers that sit with this offence make the risks for human rights abuses even more significant—again another call for more time. And I do understand that sometimes things are really really urgent and we've got to get things moving and so on and so forth but if there is some imminent threat well then there's a good excuse for us to get to move this thing forward but if there isn't then it's important that we take our time and get that balance right—make sure that we are not too heavy in one area and not at all doing what we should be doing in another particular area and make sure that we have all the educational stuff that we need to be wrapped around which was recommended within the royal commission report as well; doing that and making sure that we actually hit the marks appropriately. In terms of one of the suggestions that the erosion of rights is justifiable because of the harm terrorism causes and the public interest in safety we would like to reiterate the concerns of many submitters that the erosion of these rights affect all of us. We said that counter-terrorism legislation must include adequate human rights protections. Without these the broad powers this bill confers on agencies may lead to disproportionate surveillance and criminalisation of our communities. So it is in terms of the way that this could potentially undermine social cohesion potentially leading to unintended consequences—that is the reason why we cannot support this bill. Thank you."