Dean JacquiHon JACQUI DEAN (National—Waitaki): Thank you Mr Chair. I need a bit more time now—Hon Todd McClay: And there lies the confusion we're talking about.Hon JACQUI DEAN: Well that's right. I need a bit more time now because I just spent five minutes asking for clarification from the Minister in the chair who was the Minister of Tourism and now where does that leave the committee? Because I just asked a number of questions maybe a dozen questions of the Minister in the chair being the Minister of Tourism and now I find that my questions sadly are—well I hope they won't go unanswered because the questions maybe I'd like to move over to the Minister of Immigration. I do think I'd like a fairly full exposition of how someone coming to New Zealand what the mechanism is to calculate the tourist tax that they're going to pay.So for example it's a family from the UK and it's a multigenerational family—and we see this all the time. All the time we see whole families coming to New Zealand and it'll be for something like a family wedding. Gosh you see it all the time—a fabulous family wedding in Queenstown and of course—Hon Scott Simpson: Or Coromandel.Hon JACQUI DEAN: —the whole family—mostly Queenstown maybe Wānaka—comes along. So there's three or even four generations of family coming through Queenstown Airport on their way to Wānaka and there'll be the grandparents and there'll be the parents and there'll be children of course and then there'll be aunties because after all this is a family wedding we're talking about. They may all have the same surname but equally they may not. So how does immigration deal with a joint application or their application? How does that work? How does that family—Hon Scott Simpson: What if they are Chinese-sounding names?Hon JACQUI DEAN: Well indeed and I think that is a very important question. What if it's a family from China and—Hon Scott Simpson: —with names that all sound the same?Hon JACQUI DEAN: Well I know my colleague the Hon Scott Simpson is very keen to traverse that question. I will leave that up to him because I do want quite a lengthy exposition on how that is going to occur and how it can be that that family can come into New Zealand secure in the knowledge that their private personal details are safe that the correct amount of tourist tax has been levied for them which in the case of—somebody else is going to have to do the math because it's getting awfully late—10 people; what's that going to be? Chris Penk will know—10 people at $35?Chris Penk: $350.Hon JACQUI DEAN: Thank you—$350. That's exactly what I was going to say which is quite fortunate. So once that family of 10 comes through immigration and has the tourist tax taken off them I am interested in the process. But I'm also interested in that family being lightened by the amount of $350 and in fact if it's a family from South Korea on top of that would be an extra fee—and I have got it written down on the page—Melissa Lee: 9 and 12.Hon JACQUI DEAN: Yes 9 and 12 but what's it called? It's the electronic transfer—Hon Todd McClay: ETA.Hon JACQUI DEAN: That's right. So there's that on top. So this is a considerable amount of money just crossing the border. Now when does that get paid? Does it get paid at the border? Does it get paid when the person purchases the ticket? I know that my colleague the Hon Todd McClay is interested in knowing that and he will be following on from my contribution.