Scott AlastairALASTAIR SCOTT (National—Wairarapa): Thank you Mr Speaker. I too support the bill in front of us today and it's quite obvious why we all are in agreement. It's because we're going to raise revenue from people that should be paying. We're going to raise revenue from those offshore who bet on our races our sporting events our events that we have intellectual property for if you like based in New Zealand but they live in a different country. We're also going to raise revenue from Kiwis who use other agencies offshore agencies to bet on either our sports or any other sport in the world. But they should pay their levy if you want to call it—their tax their royalty—to the Crown. Simply going by using another internet or another agency to bet should not allow them to avoid that charge.So that's a good thing. We support that because it's going to support the racing industry as is being widely proclaimed I guess this afternoon but it's also going to be supporting sport and it was good to hear the Minister of sport say that no sporting body will be worse off but that's really not quite good enough. That is why we have some reservations around the bill. We think that it should be clearer about the representation that each of those bodies has—racing greyhounds sports agencies—on the Racing Industry Transition Agency and we also think the distribution model of those funds the additional funds as well as the existing funds should be distributed. We think there should be a more transparent calculation if you like of what sport receives what amount going forward. We do understand that it is in regulation and it will provide a more flexible and more timely way of adjusting some of those calculations but we think there should be more clarity around supporting particularly sport and those distribution models.We also think that although the Minister of sport must be consulted on by the Minister for Racing again it's not going far enough to support the sporting sector. There should be agreement between the Minister of sport and the Minister for Racing. To consult doesn't give enough emphasis enough weight enough influence from the most important governing person—body if you like—being the Minister. It gives an unequal power to the Minister for Racing. As I said in the second reading the bill really should have the word sport" in it. It is not just a racing bill; it is to do with sport more generally.There's a little bit of discussion around harm minimisation around betting and I just want to reflect on the way that I taught my kids the pros and the cons of betting. We go to the Tauherenīkau races every year or two—Dr Duncan Webb: I hope they're 18 these kids of yours.ALASTAIR SCOTT: Yeah no well they would make the decisions and I would place the bet on their behalf. Thank you for that. I think that that's OK. At an early age the kids would go to Tauherenīkau and I'd give them 20 bucks each and I'd say "You can have the 20 bucks and everything else that you gain from the betting." So the first year they bet and of course one of the kids would make a lot of money. So the next year they thought it was just a no-brainer—of course you've got to keep betting to make money; it's the easy way to make money. Of course the second year he lost it—he lost the lot. He ended up with nothing so he learnt a lesson about gambling and about listening to people and taking odds that he knew were against him. Then the third year I gave him the 20 bucks I said "Same rules apply. You can take the money and run—profits and everything." and he just put the 20 bucks in his pocket. So that is a lesson that we can all teach our kids very simply.Gambling in an environment like the racecourse like on-course betting at Tauherenīkau is a fantastic family experience. We shouldn't take that away because of the harm that pokies do. We should not be blaming the racing industry for a huge amount of harm because the problem is that a lot of that is done in the pokie machines where people addictively slot coins into that machine and they are terrible things.I'd like to also just reflect on my own experience in the racing sector. You know I mentioned in the second reading that I'd actually sponsored a couple of races at Tauherenīkau and at Trentham but I've also raced a horse believe it or not—I have. I've been in a race and—Hon Member: Did the horse win?ALASTAIR SCOTT: No I was on the horse. No it didn't win and I'll tell you why. I was leaving London and moving to Japan—this was a long time ago—and a friend said "Right we're going to go on a horse ride. We're going to trot around Hyde Park."—you can do that. They have horses stabled just around the corner in London. So we had a guy guide us around walking and trotting. We were wearing not hard hats; we were wearing soft hats and we were in a group of a few people and anyway we ended up cantering down the straight end of Hyde Park and then the next thing you know my friend looked around and the police were behind us on their horses—not on a motorbike or anything. They were cantering and they were galloping—they were chasing us. That was the race that I was on and so we thought "Well we've done nothing wrong; we're off." So we raced down the straight in Hyde Park in London as well. They eventually did catch up with us and they pulled us over and they said "Pull over pull over." They didn't have any sirens or anything but it was obvious that they wanted us to stop. So we stopped. They didn't scream or yell but they knew that we knew that we should stop and we did. And they said "You're breaking the rules. You haven't got a helmet on."Tim van de Molen: Did they say "Stop horsing around!"?ALASTAIR SCOTT: "Stop horsing around!" they said. "Stop horsing around!" Thankfully the guy that was escorting us around quickly came up and the rule was that you did have to wear a hat but it did not have to be a hard hat. So we got away with riding a horse at full speed through Hyde Park with a soft sort of beret-type cap. And that was the race that was my horse racing experience—that horse race. I don't win every race that I participate in and that race I did not. So thank you Mr Speaker. I commend this bill to the House."