Warren-Clark AngieANGIE WARREN-CLARK (Labour): Thank you Mr Speaker. A real pleasure to stand and talk to this Crimes (Child Exploitation Offences) Amendment Bill. I firstly want to acknowledge the member Ginny Andersen for another important bill being drawn out of the ballot again—also feeling a little bit like Hey my turn next." Nevertheless I'm delighted that this bill has been pulled out of the ballot. This is a really thoughtful bill I think and as the member Ginny Andersen has said there is some work to do in regards to this bill to firm up and perhaps look at the penalties etc. and comments that have been made from all members in this House have been very thoughtful and I think very useful.One of the things that I particularly like about this piece of legislation is the carve-out I guess we could call it in regards to police being able to perform a duty in order to capture perhaps this grooming behaviour online. The member Dr Duncan Webb spoke about this and I certainly think that his points were particularly useful in this area. I think we also need to be very careful when we talk about these kinds of circumstances that we are very clear that this is harmful activity and getting away with it is something that has often occurred. So these sting operations that the police operate under are often as a result of many months of work and clear evidence.I would just like to talk a little bit about the service in my community Tautoko Mai which is a really great service that looks after the people who are victims survivors of sexual violence etc. Now the reason I want to raise this is to acknowledge a recent—well somewhat recent—conference that I attended in Hamilton that Tautoko Mai put on. At this conference there was a speaker there that talked to us about digital harm and children and young people. Now my children are older and so technology was probably not as available—they're in their late 20s now. So I was flabbergasted to discover that there are all sorts of things that groom children and basically trick children into being harmed online; for example something called porn parody which is pornography which looks like—the example that we were given that was quite shocking to me was The Lego Movie. There's a little statement on this item that you can click on that says "This is porn parody." but actually if you were a child you were just going into look at The Lego Movie you'd click on that and you would see pornography—quite insidious quite worrisome that these are the kinds of things that are happening in our online situation.I'd also like to acknowledge this Netsafe report done alongside the Ministry for Women. I was quite dismayed to look at some of the statistics that they talk about. And I do recommend if people have a chance going to this NZ Teens and Digital Harm Report and having a good read of it. One of the things that I thought was particularly interesting was how young people dealt with the abuse and I want to just acknowledge and perhaps ask the member when the select committee is looking at this bill to look at the responses for young people and to make sure that they don't become responsible for dealing with these situations. A lot of these young people blocked the information changed their username etc. I commend the bill."