Naylor Jono: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNaylor Jono: New Zealand Flag Referendums Amendment Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 23 September 2015. Volume:709;Page:7032. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JONO NAYLOR (National): Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker.Rt Hon Winston Peters: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I just want to follow the speaking order here because you have had a couple of backbenchers from the National Party and I thought that in this game after many many decades that a certain seniority—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): No. Well that is not right. [Interruption] The member will sit. [Interruption] Order! The National Party’s third call was given to the Greens. That was a swap and the Green Party which would have been speaking now in slot six has had that slot taken by National. New Zealand First gets the next one which is No. 7 and that is the procedure we are following. It has been for the previous readings and is again for the third reading. I am calling Jono Naylor.Rt Hon Winston Peters: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Can I just ask you a simple question which I am sure will interest a lot of people in other Commonwealth parliaments and debating chambers as well. Usually the argument goes for and against for and against.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): No no. [Interruption] The member will sit. Parties have the opportunity to trade their calls. In this case—[Interruption] Order when I am on my feet. In this case the Greens and National have changed their third spot so the Green Party took the third call which was a National call and National is taking the Green call which is call six. That is why I have given the call to a National member. New Zealand First is call seven on the schedule and it will get call seven.JONO NAYLOR: I think the irony is that if we did go for and against on this bill there would actually be only two speeches on this bill because New Zealand First gets only one speech in the debate. So if we were going for and against it would be all over in two speeches.I just want to briefly come back if I can to the actual bill. The parent legislation for which this is an amendment is all about public participation in choosing the flag of New Zealand. Some people want to change it; some people want to keep it the same. And guess what? The people who want to keep it the same will have a chance to choose but for the first time in New Zealand’s history the people of New Zealand will get to choose the flag.This amendment bill is really just a simple small piece of legislation as a response to a groundswell of public opinion around the country that says: “Hey we’d like to include a fifth option.” It is called the Red Peak. I am not a big fan of it but guess what? We are going to put it in. That is small and easy to accomplish. The interesting thing that has been going on as we have been having this debate is the number of 10-minute speeches that I have heard from the other side of the House that talk about this being a waste of Parliament’s time. I cannot figure out why if you thought it was a waste of time you would spend 10 minutes trying to tell everybody what a waste of time it was instead of actually just making your point and sitting down so that we can get on with what is going to be I think a really encouraging process.We have seen some good public thoughts come through on the Red Peak design. I am really looking forward to this other groundswell of what I am sure will be other interested parties who are interested in other flags putting forward their ideas. It is going to be a very healthy public process where everybody—those who want to change and those who want to keep it—will all get to have their say. They might have to wait for the second referendum to get rid of the current flag or to keep the current flag if that is what they want to do but I am looking forward to New Zealanders having their voice. It will be a great voice that they have and at the end of the process we will be able to say that this is the flag that New Zealanders have chosen.