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Robertson H V Ross: Land Transport (Admissibility of Evidential Breath Tests) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Robertson H V Ross: Land Transport (Admissibility of Evidential Breath Tests) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6431. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I am sorry to interrupt the honourable member. Honourable members the time has come for me to leave the Chair. 
Debate interrupted.
Bridges Simon: Land Transport (Admissibility of Evidential Breath Tests) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Bridges Simon: Land Transport (Admissibility of Evidential Breath Tests) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6430. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon SIMON BRIDGES (Minister of Consumer Affairs) 
: 
 It is great to follow King’s College old boy Iain Lees-Galloway who is now we know a social campaigner. It is great to see someone sticking up so staunchly for intravenous drug users a group that has not been stuck for before. That is one interpretation. The other interpretation is that that party is so low in the polls that those members are looking for any interest group to support them. That is probably the interpretation that I would go with. 
No one is saying Mr Lees-Galloway that this is the biggest issue that has ever come before this House. No one is saying that. The member Scott Simpson himself should be commended for finding this issue—it is a discrete issue it is a narrow issue but in its way it is an issue that should be remedied and there is a problem here. We understand that the evidential breath-testing happens then there is a 10-minute rights period and then we go to the blood test. I have no experience of that test; some members in this House may do but I have none. But there is a real problem here. There is a real problem. We understand that some 10 years ago the law reinstated the right for blood tests for all drivers and to compensate for that and for the removal of the right of drivers to challenge the accuracy of the evidential breath test we have got the problem here that has arisen and that the member Scott Simpson has brought to this House because case law has made it clear that it needs to. 
This bill aims to close a loophole whereby a small select group of drunk drivers are able to avoid prosecution. The truth is Mr Lees-Galloway it is a small number of people. It will basically be just intravenous drug users where they cannot have blood taken from them because the vein cannot be drawn from. 
Iain Lees-Galloway 
: That’s one reason. What about the other reasons? 
Hon SIMON BRIDGES 
: There may be other reasons for it as well but that will absolutely be the issue that is coming before the courts and the case law tends to indicate that. So if a person complies with the blood-taking process and they cannot be prosecuted—
Vote: Local Government (Public Libraries) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Local Government (Public Libraries) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6426. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Local Government (Public Libraries) Amendment Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 60 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; Mana 1. 
Noes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Motion not agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Local Government (Public Libraries) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Robertson H V Ross: Local Government (Public Libraries) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6416. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I call the honourable member Jacinda Ardern. As it is a 5-minute speech I will ring the bell at 1 minute.
Yang Jian: Oaths and Declarations (Upholding the Treaty of Waitangi) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Yang Jian: Oaths and Declarations (Upholding the Treaty of Waitangi) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6411. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Dr JIAN YANG (National) 
: 
 Thank you for the opportunity to speak in the first reading of the Oaths and Declarations (Upholding the Treaty of Waitangi) Amendment Bill. As previous speakers have already stated the purpose of this bill is to commit a person taking any oath set out in statute to elect to state in addition to the words of the oath that they will uphold the Treaty of Waitangi. The bill will insert into the Oaths and Declarations Act 1957 a new section 4B that will be in essence applicable to every person who takes an oath. This bill is flawed in that the Oaths and Declarations Act 1957 does not cover all oaths. Therefore it is not clear whether the provisions in this bill will affect other oaths that are not specified in this Act. 
Taking an oath or declaration is an important part of this country’s legal framework to which a standard national approach needs to be taken. This bill is not the right platform as the status of the Treaty of Waitangi is still evolving. A wider discussion should involve all New Zealanders. 
There will also be an issue of enforcement and confusion about what “upholding” would mean in practice. Making part of the oaths optional departs from the principle of uniformity that currently applies to oaths. The status of the Treaty in New Zealand’s constitution and the duties flowing from it are a matter for Government policy and so should be addressed in a Government bill and not in a member’s bill. Because of all these issues I will not be supporting this bill. Thank you.
Tisch Lindsay: Sittings of the House 
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Tisch Lindsay: Sittings of the House 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6399. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 
Sitting suspended from 5.55 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.
Mallard Trevor: Sittings of the House 
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Mallard Trevor: Sittings of the House 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6399. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 As we have made a lot of progress I seek leave to rise slightly early for the dinner break.
Vote: Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6399. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 60 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; Mana 1. 
Noes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Motion not agreed to.
Tirikatene Rino: Riccarton Bush Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Tirikatene Rino: Riccarton Bush Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6396. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
RINO TIRIKATENE (Labour—Te Tai Tonga) 
: 
 Kia ora Mr Speaker. I rise to make a brief contribution in support of the Riccarton Bush Amendment Bill. May I as the opposite and other Maori member for the area in question firstly congratulate the member for Ilam on bringing this bill to the House. I would like to support and congratulate all of the people who have been involved in bringing this bill to the House. I would like to thank the member who has just resumed her seat Maggie Barry for the history lesson and for taking us all the way back to Gondwanaland “Jurassic Park” and all the ancient forests that led as the excellent chair of the Maori Affairs Committee Tau Henare would say to the tapestry the bringing together of so many rich histories that are embodied in this special area of Riccarton Bush. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: With such eloquence he should be Speaker. 
RINO TIRIKATENE 
: Very much so. The leading candidate to be the next Speaker is the Hon Tau Henare. So there is a rich history there and I commend this bill. It is a shame though that the bill is being spread over four different Acts of Parliament—or is soon to be four different Acts of Parliament. We have heard members opposite talk about reducing the amount of legislation and it would have been nice to condense this into one nice and tidy single piece of legislation. 
Maggie Barry 
: That’s what it does. It gets rid of it. 
RINO TIRIKATENE 
: No it does not get rid of it unfortunately. It covers four pieces of legislation covering over 98 years. Riccarton Bush is a very special place as we know. Its history goes back millions of years in terms of its geological and natural beauty and its historical and local and Maori and colonial history. So I look forward to seeing the passage of this bill through the House and I commend it to the House. Kia ora. 
Bill read a third time.
Mallard Trevor: Riccarton Bush Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Mallard Trevor: Riccarton Bush Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6392. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I stand to support the Riccarton Bush Amendment Bill. It is a good bill. It is well supported by the House and I want to thank the member Gerry Brownlee for bringing it here.
Sabin Mike: Mount Maunganui Borough Reclamation and Empowering Act Repeal Bill — Third Reading 
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Sabin Mike: Mount Maunganui Borough Reclamation and Empowering Act Repeal Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6388. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MIKE SABIN (National—Northland) 
: 
 It seems incumbent on me to give a brief summary of this particular bill the Mount Maunganui Borough Reclamation and Empowering Act Repeal Bill. Something that is a matter we should all reflect on is that it is not just the role of this place to make laws and look to make changes that add value to our country but also it is the role of this place to ensure that laws that exist that have no good and have no place any longer are repealed. More law is not necessarily good for this country. More law is not necessarily good law. 
This Mount Maunganui Borough Reclamation and Empowering Act Repeal Bill now in its third reading stage will repeal the Mount Maunganui Borough Reclamation and Empowering Act which no longer has any legal effect. The repeal of the Act is a requirement of the Tauranga waste-water comprehensive discharge resource consent. The bill returns the legal status of the land to what it was before the Act took effect in 1975. 
There have been some interesting contributions across the House today. The Hon Parekura Horomia certainly made a contribution that I am sure raised a few eyebrows here and among the many thousands of viewers who I am sure were watching from home with great interest. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: You’re not allowed to address them. 
MIKE SABIN 
: The incomprehensible nature of that contribution would seek to confuse some people but that is not uncommon coming from that side of the House as I am sure Mr Mallard will attest to. He constantly hears it coming from both of his ears. 
Hon Parekura Horomia 
: That’s teka coming out. 
MIKE SABIN 
: Teka? I am not sure we should delve back into that. 
Can I just commend Mr Flavell for bringing this bill forward and for ensuring that this piece of legislation can run its course. Can I commend the Tauranga City Council for resolving the matter in the way that it has. I am sure that the beautiful Bay of Plenty will continue to be beautiful in the face of this bill. I am happy to commend this bill to the House. 
Bill read a third time.
Williams Andrew: Mount Maunganui Borough Reclamation and Empowering Act Repeal Bill — Third Reading 
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Williams Andrew: Mount Maunganui Borough Reclamation and Empowering Act Repeal Bill — Third Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6383. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
ANDREW WILLIAMS (NZ First) 
: 
 I take a call on behalf of New Zealand for the third reading of the Mount Maunganui Borough Reclamation and Empowering Act Repeal Bill. As all members in the House have already said this has the full support of all parties in the House. I am on the Local Government and Environment Committee. It was very pleasing that the committee was able to receive the few submissions that came in on this bill which was fully supported by all members of our committee. 
I would like to also pass New Zealand First’s congratulations to those involved particularly to Nga Potiki in terms of their commitment to following this process through; to the member Te Ururoa Flavell on his attention to this process as well and ensuring that it came through the House in a prompt and speedy manner; to the local authority the Tauranga City Council and local people in that area on supporting and also championing this bill; and also to the people who were affected by this over 50 years in that there were 73.5 hectares of land and sea area taken under the former Mount Maunganui borough reclamation of which only 23.5 hectares were required to be used for their sewerage project leaving 50 hectares basically in limbo. So it is good that this is being returned and that the repeal of this Act will ensure that those 50 hectares are taken out of that encumbrance. 
I was in Tauranga last week for a couple of days. Flying in to the airport there where you fly over Tauranga Harbour—it is a most impressive harbour. It is a lovely harbour in terms of harbours within an urban area in what is quite a sizable city environment now with Tauranga City including the former Mount Maunganui borough. It is a wonderful harbour and therefore it is very very good that this bill provides for that important aspect in terms of local iwi local hapu and the local city sorting out this piece of legislation that no longer applies. 
We are very pleased to support this bill and we are glad that this is now the third reading and that it will go through. This is another good bill in that the statute that will be done away with in terms of no longer being required. Thank you.
Smith Lockwood: Tabling of Documents — Mine Safety—Summary of Public Submissions on Discussion Paper 
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Smith Lockwood: Tabling of Documents — Mine Safety—Summary of Public Submissions on Discussion Paper 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6372. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 






Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Mallard Trevor: Tabling of Documents — Mine Safety—Summary of Public Submissions on Discussion Paper 
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Mallard Trevor: Tabling of Documents — Mine Safety—Summary of Public Submissions on Discussion Paper 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6372. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I was going to wait until the end of the general debate but I seek leave to table the summary of public submissions on the discussion paper  
Improving health and safety hazard management in the Underground Mining Industry 
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Heatley Phil: Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 10 to Minister 
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Heatley Phil: Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 10 to Minister 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6372. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY (Minister of Housing) 
: 
 I seek leave to clarify an answer provided on my behalf to question No. 10 today. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is the member seeking leave to correct an answer? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: Yes. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: During an answer provided to the House today in response to a supplementary question the Minister for Building and Construction on my behalf informed the House that vacant stock is about 2 percent of all Housing New Zealand Corporation stock. I want to clarify that the roughly 2 percent refers to vacant Housing New Zealand Corporation stock that is available to let. Other categories are of course “vacant pending development due to fire damage” “vacant under sale” “vacant under repair” and “vacant under offer”. There are many in the Christchurch red zone and outside the red zone they are clearly being rebuilt. So there are lots of reasons for vacancy but around 2 percent at that time which I believe the Minister said was about 1 July of this year were vacant to let.
Smith Lockwood: General Debate 
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Smith Lockwood: General Debate 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6362. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! Before I call the Hon Bill English the level of interjection—actually the level of noise—was discourteous. I hate interrupting members speaking but it is so discourteous to have a high level of background noise.
Vote: Oaths and Declarations (Upholding the Treaty of Waitangi) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Oaths and Declarations (Upholding the Treaty of Waitangi) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6413. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Oaths and Declarations (Upholding the Treaty of Waitangi) Amendment Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 52 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Maori Party 3; Mana 1. 
Noes 69 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 8; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Motion not agreed to.
Auchinvole Chris: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Auchinvole Chris: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6361. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
12. 
CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National) 
 to the  
Minister for the Environment 
: How many televisions have been collected to date under the Government’s TV Takeback programme? 
Hon AMY ADAMS (Minister for the Environment) 
: 
 In just over 1 month 18145 televisions have so far been dropped off for recycling in the Hawke’s Bay and on the West Coast which as the first regions to make the switch to digital television are the first to be involved in the Government’s TV TakeBack Programme. Based on the average weight of a television this is the equivalent of over 435 tonnes of waste diverted from our landfills. 
Chris Auchinvole 
: What happens to the televisions once they are collected for recycling? 
Hon AMY ADAMS 
: Well that is a good question. Televisions dropped off for recycling are taken to national recycling facilities where they are taken apart. Components are recycled locally or sent overseas to specialist recycling facilities. The material extracted has a variety of uses. For example glass from the screens can be transformed into bunker sand for golf courses; copper around the electron gun can be recycled into new cabling; and degaussing wire which sits around the front of the screen is high-grade iron that can be recycled into metal goods. Televisions also contain materials that can be harmful if released into soil or waterways such as lead mercury and cadmium. Safe recycling takes away the risk of contamination and reduces the volume of waste going into our landfills.
Lee Melissa: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Lee Melissa: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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9. 
MELISSA LEE (National) 
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Minister for Social Development 
: What impact has the Canterbury rebuild had on benefit numbers? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 At the time of the February earthquake there were 5380 people receiving the unemployment benefit in Christchurch. These numbers peaked in April 2011 rising to 6326—not the 24000 that was often projected by Clayton Cosgrove. But today this number has halved to just 3231 people receiving the unemployment benefit in the Canterbury region. 
Melissa Lee 
: How many people have moved off benefits and into work in the Canterbury region? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: Since January this year 7363 people in the Canterbury region have cancelled their benefit because they have secured work. In just the last 3 months 87 people have found work through our recently announced Job Streams package—44 of them in construction 24 in hospitality six in meat processing six in retail and seven in the agriculture sector. 
Melissa Lee 
: How is Work and Income ensuring that young people are taking up available work? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: Work and Income is working more intensively to case-manage people at the moment with a particular focus on youth. For example there are 1400 fewer young people on the unemployment benefit than there were at the peak following the February 2011 quake. There are now just 976 young people on the unemployment benefit.
King Annette: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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King Annette: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6361. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon ANNETTE KING (Labour—Rongotai) 
: 
 I seek leave to table an answer to a written question I have just received which is not publicly available I believe. It shows that the number of vacant State houses in New Zealand is 5 percent unlike the answer the Minister gave in the House just a few moments ago. [ 
Interruption 
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Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Smith Lockwood: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! Leave has been sought and there should be no interjection. Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is objection.
Sabin Mike: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Sabin Mike: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6353. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
6. 
MIKE SABIN (National—Northland) 
 to the  
Minister of Justice 
: How is the Government reducing crime and reoffending by helping offenders to deal with their addictions? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Justice) 
: 
 Last week I launched the new alcohol and other drug courts in Auckland. This pilot programme will enable 100 offenders each year who are facing prison sentences and who are prepared to acknowledge their offending to participate in addiction treatment programmes which will be actively overseen by the courts. Similar programmes in other jurisdictions have resulted in significant reductions in repeat offending. This Government is focused on reducing crime in New Zealand. 
Mike Sabin 
: What else is the Government doing to reduce reoffending? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS 
: The justice sector has a target to reduce reoffending by 25 percent by 2017. The alcohol and other drug courts are part of a wider $10 million a year package funded by alcohol excise revenue and providing for early intervention screening a range of programmes for drink-drivers youth alcohol and drug services and more training and development within workplaces. The Department of Corrections has also invested heavily in drug and alcohol programmes in our prisons. This past year we have seen a 6 percent drop in reoffending.
Smith Lockwood: Business of the House 
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Smith Lockwood: Business of the House 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course of action being followed? There is none.
Brownlee Gerry: Business of the House 
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Brownlee Gerry: Business of the House 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6345. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Following discussions in the Business Committee yesterday I seek leave for Wednesday 14 November 2012 to be a members’ day despite Standing Order 74(1) and for any bills drawn from the ballot on Thursday 8 November to be set down for first reading on Wednesday 14 November despite Standing Order 281(2).
Business of the House 
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Business of the House 
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Wednesday 7 November 2012 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
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Business of the House 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Following discussions in the Business Committee yesterday I seek leave for Wednesday 14 November 2012 to be a members’ day despite Standing Order 74(1) and for any bills drawn from the ballot on Thursday 8 November to be set down for first reading on Wednesday 14 November despite Standing Order 281(2). 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is there any objection to that course of action being followed? There is none.
Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 10 to Minister 
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Amended Answers to Oral Questions — Question No. 10 to Minister 
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Amended Answers to Oral Questions 
Question No. 10 to Minister 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY (Minister of Housing) 
: 
 I seek leave to clarify an answer provided on my behalf to question No. 10 today. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Is the member seeking leave to correct an answer? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: Yes. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: During an answer provided to the House today in response to a supplementary question the Minister for Building and Construction on my behalf informed the House that vacant stock is about 2 percent of all Housing New Zealand Corporation stock. I want to clarify that the roughly 2 percent refers to vacant Housing New Zealand Corporation stock that is available to let. Other categories are of course “vacant pending development due to fire damage” “vacant under sale” “vacant under repair” and “vacant under offer”. There are many in the Christchurch red zone and outside the red zone they are clearly being rebuilt. So there are lots of reasons for vacancy but around 2 percent at that time which I believe the Minister said was about 1 July of this year were vacant to let.
Tabling of Documents — Mine Safety—Summary of Public Submissions on Discussion Paper 
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Tabling of Documents — Mine Safety—Summary of Public Submissions on Discussion Paper 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6372. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Tabling of Documents 
Mine Safety—Summary of Public Submissions on Discussion Paper 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I was going to wait until the end of the general debate but I seek leave to table the summary of public submissions on the discussion paper  
Improving health and safety hazard management in the Underground Mining Industry 
. This used to be available on the internet but the link is broken. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 






Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Sittings of the House 
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Sittings of the House 
[Sitting date: 07 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6399. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Sittings of the House 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 As we have made a lot of progress I seek leave to rise slightly early for the dinner break. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection. 
Sitting suspended from 5.55 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.
Ross Jami-Lee: Local Electoral Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading 
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Ross Jami-Lee: Local Electoral Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 06 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6341. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
JAMI-LEE ROSS (National—Botany) 
: 
 I am pleased to take a call on this Local Electoral Amendment Bill (No 2) and I am pleased that I am hearing from the Opposition that there is a level of support behind the bill. It does bring about more transparency. It does bring about some changes to the electoral expenditure and donation rules which are welcome. I am looking forward to also hearing back from the Justice and Electoral Committee after it has examined the bill through the public submissions process. 
I was sitting up in my office listening to some of the debate and I heard Opposition members talking a little bit about memory loss—some might call it a crystal set that I was listening to; I call it a television—but if anyone is going to talk about memory loss then we should talk about those who cannot remember who passed the actual legislation that led to the expenditure issues in the 2010 local body elections because actually that legislation was passed in 2001 and it was the Labour Party that was in Government in 2001. 
Labour members have the cheek to try to blame the super-city legislation for the problems that they say arose through the local body elections in 2010. Actually it had nothing to do with that legislation because the expenditure and donation legislation they are working under was the 2001 Local Electoral Act. 
The other bit of memory loss I would like to mention is the fact that the other side cannot remember that there were two candidates who took large anonymous donations. We do not hear about the second candidate because the second candidate happens to be a Labour Party member but the second candidate Len Brown my good friend from Manukau City—the Mayor of Auckland currently—took half a million dollars of anonymous donations as well. It was funnelled through a trust an anonymous trust where the public of Auckland knew nothing of this half a million dollars. 
If we are going to talk about anonymous donations if we are going to talk about memory loss let us talk about the people who cannot remember who passed the legislation that led to the issues in the 2010 local body elections. Let us talk about the people who cannot remember that there were two candidates who took half a million dollars in anonymous donations one of whom happens to be a Labour Party member. We do not hear about that from them because they do not want to admit the truth. 
This piece of legislation will resolve many of those issues. This piece of legislation will tidy up the donation problems of the 2010 local body elections. I look forward to it being passed and I look forward to some more constructive comments coming through from the Opposition in the second and third reading debates. [ 
Interruption 
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Roy Eric: Legislation Bill — In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Legislation Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 06 November 2012. Volume:685;Page:6344. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I am sorry to interrupt the member but the time has come for me to report progress. 
House resumed. 
The Chairperson reported progress on the Legislation Bill and no progress on the International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill. 
Report adopted.
Dalziel Lianne: Legislation Bill — In Committee 
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Dalziel Lianne: Legislation Bill — In Committee 
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Hon LIANNE DALZIEL (Labour—Christchurch East) 
: 
 Thank you for the opportunity to participate in the debate on Part 3 of the Legislation Bill. I think that the Government member Alfred Ngaro who was speaking on the previous bill the Local Electoral Amendment Bill (No 2) was referring to this bill when he talked about it being intended to modernise and improve the law regarding the publication availability reprinting revision and official versions of legislation and bring them together into one piece of legislation which is precisely what this bill does. 
I sat on the Regulations Review Committee when it undertook the inquiry relating to incorporating material by reference which is a particular feature of Part 3 of this bill. The reason that I wanted to perhaps invite the Minister to take a call on this particular matter is that it is an issue that I do not actually know the answer to and in a way it was not something that was specifically dealt with in that particular review. What this particular part of the legislation does is that it essentially says that you can incorporate into the legislation by reference another instrument as my colleague Charles Chauvel has pointed out. But what it means essentially is that if there is a subsequent change to that instrument then it does not have to be specifically mentioned in the legislation that the changes to that instrument are in fact incorporated because it is always speaking to the present tense. 
But the one issue is around making copies of the proposed material available free of charge on an internet site maintained by or on behalf of the administering department unless doing so would infringe copyright. Of course that deals with the whole of the building code. I have always actually wanted to know the answer to this question because as I say I do not know the answer to this question. We have as one of our fundamental provisions in relation to building regulation in this country our building code but because the Standards Council is not able to obtain any public-good funding for the work that it does—
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Hon DAVID CARTER (Minister of Local Government) 
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 I move  
That the Justice and Electoral Committee report the bill to the House on or before 11 March 2013. 
Motion agreed to.
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Order! Order! Members order! Members this debate has concluded. 
Bill read a first time.  
Bill referred to the Justice and Electoral Committee.
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Forgive me I did not mean to imply that the member was not; I was just asking members to think about those changes. I now do declare the House back in Committee for further consideration of the Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill.
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Dr JACKIE BLUE (National) 
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 I am very pleased to speak to the first reading of the Local Electoral Amendment Bill (No 2). It will modernise the Local Electoral Act 2001 and improve the transparency of local electoral donations. The changes to the electoral donations will bring this Act closer in line with the Electoral Act which central government candidates work to. The changes reflect the recommendations of the Local Government Commission and the review of the Local Electoral Act. 
The legislation is planned to be enacted by May 2013 in time for the election in October 2013. There will be a number of changes to donation provisions such as limiting the size of anonymous donations that a candidate can retain to $1500. This bill will strengthen transparency and accountability and strengthen the integrity of the electoral system. I commend it to the House.
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I understand the next call is a split call. Charles Chauvel—5 minutes.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: No I have indicated that I am upholding my ruling. The member is entitled to—
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am sorry to interrupt the honourable member. Her time has expired.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 1 be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Clause 1 agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Clause 2 agreed to.
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 3 be agreed to. 
Ayes 61 
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Clause 3 agreed to. 
Bill reported with amendment. 
Report adopted.
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Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green) 
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 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Without drawing out the time of the House I would just say that I consider myself to be a reasonable person.
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MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (Senior Whip—National) 
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 Just briefly Mr Speaker I do not think that the member who has proposed the amendment Dr Kennedy Graham intended to be frivolous in the title and he has explained that but I am influenced by Speaker’s ruling 117/1(2) by Chairman Kyd in respect of the Employment Contracts Bill which referred to the “Exploitation of Workers Act”. That was a value judgment. The Government disputes that emissions will rise under the Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill necessarily and therefore it is either a debating point or a value judgment. However the point I am raising is that it is very similar to the issue that Chairman Kyd had to consider—what is effectively a value judgment.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Those in favour of the Speaker being recalled will say Aye to the contrary No. The Noes have it.
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Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green) 
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 I apologise for unintentionally causing such concern on the part of the House. Even though the amendment was submitted at a late stage in the discussion—in the debate—it was not my intention to be in any way mischievous in misleading the Committee. The points I made when I advanced the amendment—and I will just summarise them for your consideration—are the following. 
The Emissions Trading Scheme Review Panel from last year published its document which contained of course recommendations to the Government for the future of the emissions trading scheme. In that it shows in figure 2.1 both gross emissions and net emissions projected to increase. That is my first point. 
My second point is that if you then have in response to that an amendment bill in which you demonstrably defer obligations under the scheme—namely a deferral of the price cap at the same figure an indefinite continuation of surrender obligations no restrictions on international credits coming in and an indefinite deferral of the entry of agriculture into the scheme—then it is a logical inescapable conclusion that those provisions in the amendment bill will not reduce emissions; they can be seen to only increase emissions. So if you have the original projection that increases emissions and an amendment bill that can be interpreted only as increasing emissions my point was that it is a necessary conclusion that this bill will encourage emissions—hence the need to change the title.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Mr Speaker The Committee has determined that you should be recalled to give an oversight on a ruling that I gave in relation to an amendment from Dr Kennedy Graham. We are debating clauses 1 to 3 and he has submitted an amendment to change the title. Essentially he wants to remove the words: “This Act is the Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill”. He wants to delete those words and insert: “This Act is the Climate Change Response (Emissions Encouragement) Amendment Bill”. I gave this some consideration and was guided somewhat by Speakers’ rulings 116/6 and 117/1. Speakers’ ruling 116/6 states quite clearly: “An amendment to the title of a bill must be a serious or objective description of the bill rather than an attempt to criticise” the bill. Although I would certainly concede that Dr Kennedy Graham is indeed serious about his concerns after having listened to the debate I just believed that this was a step too far. It is in fact an amendment to the Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading and Other Matters) Amendment Bill. To assert that this bill is now a bill that encourages emissions was I believe beyond the pale of what was a serious amendment. There are some examples quite clearly that I felt fitted around this and they are set out in Speakers’ ruling 117/1. Accordingly I was challenged by a point of order. I upheld my ruling and the Committee has deemed that you be recalled to give your consideration on my ruling.
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I will put the question again. Those in favour will say Aye to the contrary No. The Ayes have it. The Speaker will be recalled. 
House resumed.
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Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
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 I have never done this before but I am. I am going to ask for the Speaker to be recalled.