McKelvie IanIAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei): I'd better fill the gap Madam Speaker. It's a pleasure to take a call on the Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Cellar Door Tasting) Amendment Bill in the name of my colleague Stuart Smith. As the last speaker—the previous speaker Tangi Utikere—said we in the Manawatū struggle a little bit for our wine and if I ever need advice I go straight to Stuart Smith and he sorts it out for me. I wouldn't however refer to wine as a substance. I think it's much more of a tonic or a food or whatever but certainly not a substance. I think that to refer to wine as a substance is almost an insult to the winery. As the previous speaker said in the Rangitīkei we have actually—[Bell rung]ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): Oh sorry no—wrong button. Carry on—carry on. IAN McKELVIE: Can I keep going Madam Speaker—can you give me another minute? Give me another minute! In the Rangitīkei in my time in Parliament we've had three very small wineries operating and I think there's probably about one and a bit left now. There's a very good reason for that: we grow great meat in the Rangitīkei. I suppose when you think about the wine trails of Marlborough and Hawke's Bay in particular—and probably Nelson and Waipara and Canterbury—we could well have a meat trail in the Rangitīkei. I mean I think that's something that I might think about when I leave this place in a few weeks' time—I could start up a new kind of business. But I think that the real point of this is that wine is certainly a very successful industry in New Zealand but it has a different cause I guess in that it's a very good tourist attraction. I liken it in some ways to the thoroughbred industry because if you think about the thoroughbred industry around the world horses are an attraction for people to travel round the world. Wine has the same impact and to allow people to travel through those wine trails—I'm no expert on this as you can tell but I'm an expert on taking Stuart Smith's advice. To allow people to travel through those regions and sample wine at various establishments is very sensible but the issue with this bill—and it corrects an anomaly as Chlöe Swarbrick so eloquently put it. It corrects an anomaly in the law which enables those cellar doors to effectively charge people for those samples that they're taking. Now some of us had the opportunity to travel to South America a little while ago and of course Chile and Argentina particularly are very large wine producers. Chile is a huge wine producer and we had the opportunity to go and visit one of these cellar doors in Chile. They had a—Hon Member: Terrible! IAN McKELVIE: There was very good meat there actually so that's another point in my favour—very good meat there. But the interesting thing about it was that they were charging for samples. They had a cover charge at the start and then they charged you for any extra samples you took so the opportunity was there in that country for it to work very well. So I'm pleased to see support right round the House for this bill. It's very sensible. The other point I wanted to make is that this is yet another alcohol bill coming through the House to amend a piece of the Sale and Supply of Alcohol Act which points clearly to the fact that this whole area needs to be reviewed. I think this is the third bill we've had in the House in the last few weeks with respect of the sale and supply of alcohol and for us to continue to have to put these bills through the House without having an opportunity to review in its entirety the Act in New Zealand then I think it just points strongly to the fact that we need to review that. Another interesting point was made earlier that when you go round even some of our wineries are producing gin sampling and all sorts of things like that. In fact in the Wairarapa there is a winery that also makes very good gin and I think that the opportunity for this kind of tourism industry in New Zealand is significant. As I think one of the earlier speakers referred to it also refers to our small breweries our small gin operators and we've even got some pretty good whisky made in New Zealand nowadays which is a huge improvement on what used to come out of your area Madam Assistant Speaker Dean actually many years ago. It was pretty average—you had to pour it into a Johnnie Walker bottle to be able to drink it. Anyway I won't refer to its name but that's as true as I stand here. So I've got no problems with supporting this bill. I think it's a very good little piece of legislation. It's exactly the reason we have members' bills coming through this House and I think that to get a bill drawn that actually changes something that will make a significant difference to a very important industry in New Zealand is pretty important. I congratulate Stuart Smith on that and I also welcome the support right around the House for this bill.