Robertson GrantHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Prime Minister): Many MPs will be familiar with the game that the press gallery like to play in Parliament called the rule in rule out game". There's an issue of the day and you're asked whether or not you're going to rule it in or rule it out. Sometimes it's quite a difficult game to play—you might not have made your final decision on a very complex policy issue—but Christopher Luxon got asked the very easiest rule in rule out question of all time: would he work with Brian Tamaki?Now Mr Luxon couldn't answer that question. The question I've got for Mr Luxon is: did he not take the clue of the so-called people's court that took place outside Parliament where Mr Luxon among other people was convicted of crimes against humanity? But apparently no. Now this question was so easy David Seymour got it right—that's how easy the question was. But no Christopher Luxon ploughed on he doubled down he said he wouldn't rule it out—he wouldn't rule it out. All that does is tell you just how out of touch and out of his depth Christopher Luxon is. Because if it's giving tax cuts to the wealthiest New Zealanders if it's his stance on abortion if it's the cuts to public service—all of those things put him out of touch. But his response to that question shows just how his political inexperience is affecting him and the National Party.So now we're left with the prospect that if in the unlikely event National were to get into Government Brian Tamaki would be there and he would have to decide what portfolio to give Brian Tamaki. Now this would be a tough question: would a self-styled apostle accept deputy leader? Would they do that? Or would he offer him something that he has experience of like Minister of Courts for example? Or would he put him in charge of finance given his experience in tithing? But no I think I know exactly the role that Christopher Luxon would end up giving to Brian Tamaki and that is the role of Minister with responsibility for the Earthquake Commission.Now this might surprise one or two people but I want take you back to 2016 where Brian Tamaki in talking about homosexuality said I quote "No other sin in the whole Bible has any connection to earthquakes floods and volcanic eruptions". That's who Christopher Luxon wants to work with. That's who Christopher Luxon wants to bring inside his Cabinet. I think on this side of the House we know exactly what that means: Mr Luxon will do anything whatsoever he'll compromise any value he doesn't care. Once again we see the impact of his political inexperience.Now everybody in the House knows that I enjoy taking the mickey out of a National Party leader that makes a colossal cock-up like this who shows their inexperience. But I actually want to say something serious to Mr Luxon: doing what he has done gives legitimacy to the most extreme views in our community. Doing what Mr Luxon has done gives confidence to those who have threatened and harassed our health care workers our journalists many politicians in this House and citizens around New Zealand. What Mr Luxon has done by failing to rule out Brian Tamaki undermines the inclusive and accepting society that I would have hoped he would have been part of.Now it's probably in the Labour Party's interest for Christopher Luxon to go on deciding that he does not want to rule out Brian Tamaki. I am pleading with Mr Luxon to do the right thing. Do not say to young gay New Zealanders that they don't matter. Do not say to the women of New Zealand that they don't have a place in leadership. Because Mr Luxon you will be judged by the company you keep. You have a chance and you have an opportunity to stand up for New Zealanders' values. Do the right thing Mr Luxon rule out working with Brian Tamaki or else New Zealanders will continue to believe you stand for extremism you stand for bigotry. Rule out Brian Tamaki."