Mitchell Mark; Baillie Chris; Henderson Emily; Andersen GinnyHon MARK MITCHELL (National—Whangaparāoa): I'd have to assume that as the police Minister you're actually talking to front-line staff and I think that you'd find their view of Oranga Tamariki and the way that the two agencies—or certainly the Police—are supported is quite different from the one that you're putting forward in this Chamber today.My question to the Minister is this: is she in the Chamber today standing and saying that it is business as usual; that there is not going to be any impact on front-line staff in terms of the loss of back-office support that will have to go somewhere; that there is going to be no change in terms of time off in lieu (TOIL) and annual leave other than the fact that people have been reminded to manage it; and that districts are not going to be impacted with the loss of staff or the failure of filling positions of someone that has left? Is the Minister basically standing and saying that it's business as usual? Because I don't even know what the point of this email was to send out to people other than a reminder that we're just going to keep doing things the same way.Or is there going to be changes and if there are going to be changes would the Minister please tell us what they are? Because up until this point with her responses it's quite—especially when it comes to TOIL and leave—nothing's changed. It's just stick with the guidelines everything's carrying on as normal." If that's the message then send the message because this is something that does worry and concern front-line staff. Thank you Mr Chair.CHRIS BAILLIE (ACT): Thank you Mr Chair. In answer to Mark Mitchell's question I think the email was sent out to prepare front-line staff for not much of a wage increase. I'd just like to get back to my original question: will the Minister be advocating for a 14.5 percent pay increase for police like teachers got this week?Dr EMILY HENDERSON (Labour—Whangārei): Following on from my colleagues Mr Mitchell's and Mr Baillie's concern for the wellbeing of our front-line officers I wondered whether the Minister would also like to—we've talked about the tactical response model and the changes that that has made to the officers' sense of safety and security. But I wondered whether she perhaps would like to talk to us about the tools—the increased tools—that we have given the police under legislation which she has been so much involved in.Hon GINNY ANDERSEN (Minister of Police): Thank you very much Mr Chair. Look thank you for the question Mr Baillie. I can't get ahead of Cabinet. I appreciate your interest and advocacy but I'm afraid in matters of pay negotiations I'm not going to make a comment now. Those will have to go through a formal process and a Cabinet decision. I wouldn't be able to pre-empt that so I can't give you the answer that you're looking for.In terms of the increased tools there's been some great increase of tools. The Criminal Activity Intervention Legislation Bill is one that was put through this year and and that's already being utilised. We've seen in Ōpōtiki that that's been really useful in terms of that 14-day new warrant when there's intergang conflict being able to search specifically vehicles.Front-line police when I speak to them told me that what really surprised gang members was that they weren't expecting their vehicles to be searched that they'd seen in the past that houses were searched but they were relying on the fact that they could carry weapons within their vehicles and not have those searched. So that was the element that was utilised in Ōpōtiki that enabled weapons to be seized under those warrants that were granted. And it was I think the district commander at the time during that operation who commented that the new legislation was effective and it was used well.The other one that's going to be really interesting to watch is flipping the onus on the proceeds of crime. I recently got to have a trip to check out all those things that are seized by the group that does all that work and some very high-value vehicles some very-high value goods are regularly seized as part of that process and so when those items are sold that actually puts money back into some really good community initiatives that are then able to prevent crime.So what the change in the legislation will mean—and those working in those positions that take on that work are really looking forward to—is the onus changing. So instead of it being incumbent on police to demonstrate that a gold-plated Harley was illicitly or illegally obtained and having to go through the extensive work and use forensic accountants to be able to identify that that was not legally obtained instead the onus will now be on the accused to demonstrate how they got that high-value item legally and if they are unable to demonstrate that then that item is able to be restrained under the proceeds of crime Act.So I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing a whole lot more organised crime assets and money coming into that account so that we can continue to fund some really excellent community initiatives including a lot of the youth programmes that we see going on. I think it's a good example of a smart way of operating to take money off gangs and target it into areas in particular to discourage young people from ever wanting to join those gangs in the first place."