Barry MaggieHon MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore): Thank you Madam Speaker. I rise to talk to the Smoke-free Environments (Prohibiting Smoking in Motor Vehicles Carrying Children) Amendment Bill at its first reading. We support this bill. It makes sense. It makes common sense. It's a shame sometimes you have to make laws around common sense but you have to. I was really quite surprised when the Action on Smoking and Health survey which came out in 2016 said just how many children had been in cars in the previous week: 12 percent of Pākehā fourth-formers reported being in a car where people were smoking the previous week and 29 percent of Māori fourth-form students reported being in a car where smoking was going on. As the previous speaker Marama Davidson has indicated with a Holden—we had a Humber Hawk. My old man was like Andy Capp—you know those roll-your-owns and the cigarette was in the bottom of his mouth and you'd think it couldn't possibly ignite. He'd puff away and away it would go again and the place was full of smoke. He said they were much less dangerous incidentally roll-your-owns because they didn't have those added toxins and cobalt in it or something to make it slow down or saltpetre or something. Anyway lung cancer got him in the end—may he rest in peace. But over all of those years where he refused to not smoke in the vehicle I don't know anything that might have really changed his mind. A heavy fine and imprisonment might have got him there but a piece of legislation like this is still necessary because there are still people who are addicted and who don't think it's a problem because it's always been that way and why would we want to change it?" But the police need the extra powers. They need to be able to if they see something like that occurring—and it may not just be tobacco. If cannabis is legalised and there's reefers being smoked in the confines of a car that would be obviously extremely undesirable for young people or second- or third-hand smoking and Dr Reti introduced us to a whole new horror of these toxins and what have you still being present in a vehicle for a long period of time. I think there were a couple of misses around this bill; you know vaping. Why leave that out? It's been examined on every level. You can't vape in a plane you can't vape in a lot of public places so why in a closed place? I noticed that vapers have a ridiculous amount of smoke around them. It's the kind of thing that's alarming when you see it down the street. It's as if they have combusted. But no it's just the vape. But imagine it filling up a car. It could be a hazard to driving—who knows. But that is one of the things no doubt that will come out at the select committee. I guess the other contradiction which did strike me as being a bit peculiar is to allow smoking in a vehicle that is a dwelling like a camper van. As long as it's stationary you can smoke in it and I don't think that that's worthy of an exemption. I think again it sends odd mixed messages. You might as well go the whole hog on this one. I guess at the select committee this will be teased out and if people are living in their cars and they don't move very often what does that actually mean? But I think exempting people who are under 18 by allowing them to smoke in a vehicle as long as they are the only person under 18 in a vehicle to me does seem rather counter to the spirit of this bill and a bit contradictory.So there are a number of things that we support and we will support the bill at least till it goes through to select committee. I believe that changing behaviour can be the carrot and the stick approach and also the fear factor. If you fear that you are going to give your children secondary smoke that might cause cancer in later years those are the kinds of things that might just kick in and make people think a couple of times extra but to have this backing it up and to have the police able to make sure that people are aware of the safety and the health aspects and "Oh by the way if that doesn't work you'll get a fine."—I don't know whether that is going to be determined at the select committee.I think there are a number of really good aspects to this bill and I won't take up further time in the House this evening by going into them in more detail. I'm sure there'll be other opportunities to talk about it. So with that said I commend this bill to the House."