Lyndon HūhanaHŪHANA LYNDON (Green): Tēnā koe Madam Speaker. Tēnā koutou e te Whare. I stand on behalf of Te Rōpū Kākāriki to maintain our ongoing opposition and our concerns because ultimately it was our colleagues from Labour and our Matua Shane who brought the original legislation into this House. So I need to remind the House that actually it was brought in for a reason. There was a call from our people with widespread support within the pre-consultation and the consultation for the register to be established to provide regulations and protections for the sector and for landowners and to provide a credible register where we could go and find the smorgasbord of advisers available to us when we needed to purchase services. So as I was sitting here listening in the House I did a google and I checked out actually how awesome the website is for the Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) with nearly 500 pages of registered advisers. It's quite cool. If you go on there you can see their name you can see their location and you can see what they're registered for their hapū iwi affiliations and how to contact them. Now I know that we've spoken tonight about Let's hand it back to the industry. They've got the model."—yep it's the New Zealand Institute of Forestry and I mihi to their many years of mahi. For us in Tai Tokerau we have nine registered New Zealand Institute of Forestry advisers on that list. But certainly it's voluntary and that's the risk when we go back to it being voluntary because as I shared earlier in the piece we had 10 to 12 percent of advisers within the sector registered in the voluntary system and now we have over 500 through the regulations brought in by my colleagues from Labour and our good old Matua Shane. So let's reflect on the need for a sector to be strong to be robust and to be credible and transparent and that was the original intent of this legislation. It was to provide regulation to support both the growth of the industry and to provide a record of who's who in the zoo and then also know their credentials and their experience to support us on the ground. We won't have that any more so I'm looking forward to working with the Minister and seeing the consultation that takes place because it can't all be for the big players. You have to remember rural New Zealand. In the Cabinet advice in 2022 it said that "A well-functioning forestry and wood-processing sector supports rural communities to thrive."—this was an in-confidence paper. Māori also during this process in pre-consultation as well as the consultation raised the need for transparency as to who's trading our logs and who's providing the forestry advice. Māori also said "We need to see the disclosure of conflicts of interest."—and that's always important eh for transparency. The registration process that MPI was administering provided a robust system whereby we could put forward complaints and concerns and see an external party then go forward and look to facilitate or mediate a process for the parties. Now we're going back to the centre to self-regulate so we have high trust now and I think that's part of the disappointment. It is that we had only just started to implement this system to bring in a robust and rigorous registration process and provide additional safety and security to those of us on the ground to be able to inquire and look for those professionals who can support us in making robust decisions. But that's OK—we move forward and we ask for the Minister to come to the North and let's have some more hui. Let's have some more hui within the sector and landowners because there are nine registered advisers through the New Zealand Institute of Forestry but let's grow those numbers. How do we transition those 500-odd on the MPI list across? What are those transition arrangements so that we can support them into an industry-led system because when they go back to being voluntary they may not register. So those are some of the concerns and the worries I think in terms of being a land administrator as to how we can get robust advice in the sector and in our communities. As my whanaunga and colleague Peeni spoke to again one of the key purposes was to save our value and keep our value within the kāinga—particularly for wood processors—and to see whare built from our wood. That remains a goal. So in terms of the advice that we would receive for those of us preparing for harvest it would be my hope that through this new system and through the transition that we're going to see and the consultation that's going to roll out we will know as to how we can get robust advice for landowners to ensure that they're engaging the right people to do the work at the right time. Finally in terms of the Green Party position we always think that it's good to have a robust system in place—something that is well consulted on—and because this bill has come through in urgency we are missing out on the voice of the people. We are missing out on the robust consultation and sending it into select committee to actually hear from the people on the ground. So one of the failures that we have in this urgency process is that's it's gone so quickly we've missed the opportunity to hear from community from landowners and from the industry themselves. We can only look to anecdotal kōrero like myself last night sitting in Kawakawa and in Kaitāia talking to Māori land owners about this proposed repeal—of which the feedback that I got from the land administrators or the owners that I spoke to was like "Oh why are they doing that? Is it needed?" and I said "Well actually that's a really good question. I can't tell you why they're doing it but they said it's about red tape. So they're taking away the red tape." But for us on the ground whether we're in Kaitāia Kawakawa Moerewa or even in Whangaruru—where I'm from and I administer a block—we want to get good advice. So my challenge is: will our advice continue to be robust who is going to be the caretaker and the independent person who will be the mediator when push comes to shove and complaints are made and how can we grow a good system that is industry-led—because that's where we're going—and ensure that there are protections in place for the time of harvest and processing?Heoi anō tāku e mihi atu ana ki te Whare; ahakoa te tere hoki o ēnei mahi a te Kāwanatanga ki runga i a mātou kei konei te Rōpū Kākāriki e whakahē tonu ana i tēnei pire. Kia ora.[All I need to do is acknowledge the House; despite the incredible haste of these actions of the Government upon us here the Green Party remains in opposition to this bill. Thank you.]"