Gosche Mark: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Gosche Mark: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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9.  
Hon MARK GOSCHE (Labour—Maungakiekie) 
 to the  
Minister of Labour 
: What action is the Government taking to support New Zealand’s lowest paid workers? 
Hon RUTH DYSON (Minister of Labour) 
: 
 Successive Labour-led Governments since 1999 have lifted the minimum adult wage by 46 percent. That minimum adult wage now applies for people aged 18 rather than the previous 20 years of age. We have lifted the minimum youth rate by 95 percent. 
Hon Mark Gosche 
: [ 
Interruption 
] I raise a point of order Madam Speaker. I understand that the ruling in the House is that members do not speak when a question is being asked. Mr Rodney Hide was actually doing that. Given the Opposition’s desire to have this House run in order I think he should be asked to leave the Chamber. I have tried to ask this question about five times while spurious points of order were taken. I think I have a right as a member of this House to ask a question without interruption and I have been interrupted. I ask the Speaker to take some action on it. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: The member is correct. I heard Mr Hide laugh. I did not hear him actually make an interjection. We had that discussion yesterday as I recall. There is always a crossover between members coming to their feet and asking their question. I ask members to please maintain a level of silence and order in the House. 
Hon Mark Gosche 
: Has the Minister seen any reports that are opposed to the idea of supporting New Zealand’s lowest-paid workers having higher-quality working lives? 
Hon RUTH DYSON 
: Yes as a matter of fact I have. I have seen a report that suggests we abandon not only the minimum wage but also abandon minimum holiday entitlements parental leave and any moves to close the gender pay and employment gap. Those are the wishes of Dr Don Brash. 
Sue Bradford 
: What is the Minister’s view of employers who are circumventing the just announced increase in the minimum wage by reducing service pay or skill allowances by the amount of the increase thus in fact leaving some low-paid workers no better off? 
Hon RUTH DYSON 
: Under the Employment Relations Act any change to employment agreements must be renegotiated in good faith between the employer and the employee. Employers cannot reduce terms and conditions already agreed to in their employment agreements without renegotiating the agreements. If the member knows of any specific instances of this happening then I warmly invite her to provide them to either me or the department for investigation. 
Peter Brown 
: Does the Minister accept that in some cases people who are employed casually are worse off than those who are employed permanently even those who are employed permanently on a lower wage; if she does accept that what is the Government doing to address the problems of casualisation? 
Hon RUTH DYSON 
: I do accept that people whose employment is on a casual basis are more vulnerable than those who are in permanent employment but the minimum wage provisions apply to both situations. At the direct request again of the deputy leader of the National Party I seek leave to table Dr Don Brash’s comments confirming what I relayed in my answer to the supplementary question from the Hon Mark Gosche. 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is.