Utikere Tangi; Abel Steve; Cameron Mark; Williams Arena; Jones ShaneTANGI UTIKERE (Labour—Palmerston North): Thank you Mr Chair. Still interested in the Minister's thoughts around the Industry Transformation Plan for the sector—it's still a question that is yet to be addressed. And also—Hon Rachel Brooking: And the taiao?TANGI UTIKERE: Yes the taiao approach of cameras on boats and when we can expect to see the next step in that particular phase of the Minister's thinking?I just wanted to touch on this issue of the South Pacific Regional Fisheries Management Organisation and ask the Minister what the current position is regarding the proposed bottom fishing management boundaries? But in particular the role that New Zealand scientists were involved in in developing those boundaries and what might be seen by some as world leading and whether or not the Minister supports them as scientists in their approach or not?STEVE ABEL (Green): Thank you. I wanted to repeat the question to the Minister: have you given any instructions to the Ministry for Primary Industries on marine protected areas? Have you given any instructions to Ministry for Primary Industries on marine protected areas?MARK CAMERON (ACT): Minister if I make a statement—and I'm pleased with a yes or no—do you agree? Do you agree that the coastal commercial sector has innovated significantly over the last 10 years to try and alleviate bycatch? And what does innovation look like to try and nullify some of the concerns on the political left?ARENA WILLIAMS (Labour—Manurewa): Mr Chair thank you for the opportunity to ask the Minister a question about Maōri fisheries. There is a bill going through the House at the moment which is essential to creating a regime which is fit for purpose now so that Maōri can realise the value of fisheries assets and unlock the economic potential of that not only in the regions but everywhere around Aotearoa. Maōri fisheries are really important and I want to ask the Minister why he is proposing to change what is a bill that was supported by iwi Māori worked on by the Māori Affairs Committee that used a cross-partisan approach that dealt with stakeholders for a number of months and engaged deeply with those stakeholders and is it because the Minister is only taking advice from Te Ohu Kaimoana? And is the Minister acting in the interests of Te Ohu Kaimoana?Hon SHANE JONES (Minister for Oceans and Fisheries): Firstly references to innovation within the fisheries sector is beyond cavil. Sadly the fisheries sector is plagued by a whole host of dangerous and hurtful allegations on a regular basis heard here every week in this House. Well they are clapping in the streets because they know they have a champion in my good self. Innovation will be supported. It doesn't necessarily mean we stay with exactly the same template of an Industry Transformation Plan. Indeed four times a year we are engaging with the senior figures of the fishing industry to effect better outcomes between the civil service myself and them. As indeed I'm doing it with oil and gas as I'm doing a similar thing with minerals—in particular coal. So I don't think anyone should imagine that the zest to develop better innovation outcomes has diminished.And the final thing I'd say about Māori fisheries: the member makes a very good point I have no interest in disfiguring the progress forward for Māori fisheries but neither do I want to set up a host of opportunities for Māori and for them to argue with each other; I'd rather see them mend a net catch some fish and make some money.