Smith Stuart: Objectionable Publications and Indecency Legislation Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSmith Stuart: Objectionable Publications and Indecency Legislation Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 24 February 2015. Volume:703;Page:1888. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]STUART SMITH (National—Kaikōura): As my colleague Sarah Dowie said before I also commend the Justice and Electoral Committee for its work and Amy Adams for bringing this bill the Objectionable Publications and Indecency Legislation Bill before the House. I take on board what was said by Mr Faafoi earlier. It is not something that gives anyone any pleasure to speak about but we are here to do the right job for New Zealanders and sometimes that means doing the tough things as we saw earlier in the day today.I was also taken by Poto Williams’ comments before and I absolutely agree with what she said. However it is such a difficult thing to deal with at that end and we cannot give up on it but trying to ensure that there is no market for this material would of course be the best solution. Unfortunately we are living in a world where we have this situation now and we have to deal with what is in front of us but I agree wholeheartedly that we need to look forward and spend some time thinking about how we might make some ground on that. I know as a member of the Social Services Committee which has been dealing with an inquiry into sexual violence it is not a pleasant subject and it is not an easy one to grapple with. Certainly the Objectionable Publications and Indecency Legislation Bill is dealing with the sharp end of that.I note that this bill is increasing the maximum penalty for the possession import and export of an objectionable publication from 5 years’ imprisonment to 10 years’ imprisonment. Too often I think we think of imprisonment as punishment and indeed that is partly what it is there for but it is also there for protection and protection for the innocent people left behind. I think we must not ever forget that. Really for some people you would think maybe getting out of prison should not be an option particularly in some of these hardened cases so I applaud that clause in the bill that moves it out from 5 to 10 years. I think that is a very good move. Likewise I also note that increasing the maximum penalty for distributing and for making an objectionable publication from 10 years’ imprisonment to 14 years’ imprisonment is also a good move and something I wholeheartedly support.It seems to me that at the heart of this bill is really a change in technology. I note that this bill is really looking forward and trying to futureproof the law for the future. It is something that we really must think of in all of the legislation that we put forward because times change. Although we really think Facebook is in everybody’s lives today it is not that many years ago that Mark Zuckerberg came up with Facebook. How many years ago was that? Brett? Was it 10 15?Chris Bishop: 2004.STUART SMITH: Four years—4? No no.Chris Bishop: 2004.STUART SMITH: 2004. So it is not that long ago—10 or 11 years ago—and yet everybodyin this House today I would imagine has a Facebook account. I think we now know that before some employers take people on in employment they look at their Facebook accounts and see what they can find. For some young people being caught with indecent publications in social media it is with them for ever so it is really important that we get on top of this pretty quickly. I think what we would have thought of as being pornography and indecent publications only a few years ago would have required some sort of hard copy; today it is digital. Who knows what it will be in the future. Holograms are only just round the corner.I think we really need to ensure that we get good legislation and this bill is going a long way towards that and I wholeheartedly support it. I am rather disappointed in my colleagues in New Zealand First. I really think their attitude on this bill is a triumph of ideology over good sense and really they should take a bit of a hard look at themselves on this one. I take great pleasure in commending the bill to the House. Thank you.Bill read a second time.