Jackson WillieHon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister of Employment): After that speech it's very clear to me that a Māori should be in charge of the National Party. There's no doubt about it. Your time's come. Their time's come. The reality is for years and years Māori have been ignored in that party. Winston Peters made a great run. It was a shame Jo—she left because she's in my speech—SPEAKER: Order! The member can't refer to members leaving the Chamber.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: My apologies—my apologies sir. But really the time has come for a change. We need to see a change in the National Party and a change in terms of the leadership.Winston Peters—he could've been the first National Party leader but sadly sadly the knives came out for him. The problem the National Party has of course with our Māori members is that we've got some lovely members on the other side—we've got four. I'm looking at the seven Māori members on this piece of paper and there's four lovely—very lovely—members. One of them is sitting right over there now Dr Shane Reti. Dr Reti over there look he was a fantastic doctor—a fantastic doctor. And does he have aspirations? It's very hard to have aspirations in a National Party who have never promoted a Māori to the leadership. But I say to the member over there Dr Reti you're a fine member you're too nice you're too lovely for the National Party.Harete Hipango—she's beautiful. She's fabulous. She's too nice too sweet and too lovely to take on the National Party leadership—that there is no doubt.Now—Nuk Korako. We love Nuk. We love Nuk. He's the man. He's probably not the man for the leadership but he's a kaumātua. He's got to whakatikatika i tana reo [fix up his language]. Peeni will work on him in terms of his reo side but what a man. What a leader he could be if he just got a bit of support.I've got to say to Dr Reti just get behind. There she's come back here. That's good. Sorry there Mr Speaker but it's great to see the fourth member of the—I was saying four lovely people and Joanne Hayes after the last speech it's questionable whether she fits that bill. But I don't like your chances Joanne of leadership.But the problem with these four is that they're in this category of lovely" but then we have "nasty" and there's three of them who fit the bill.Number one—Paula Bennett. Ooh! Woah there's some problems there particularly when she can go on to a marae and then all of a sudden talk to the media about our wonderful chairman Huri Dennis and then deny it all and then run rumours about our wonderful Deputy Prime Minister and bash beneficiaries. Oh it's a sad day when we hear that Paula Bennett has aspirations in terms of the National Party leadership. But she's Māori and we love Māori. Some question there but she is Māori and good luck Paula—don't like your chances.Then there's old Simon—Simon Bridges. Now Simon Bridges in terms of what's positive about him—not a lot but he's from Ngāti Maniapoto which is my tribe. He's from Ngāti Maniapoto. That's my mum's tribe. And even though our chairman Tiwha Bell—well he's disowned him. But even though Ngāti Maniapoto have said "Goodness gracious! Is he one of our sons?" we still support him because he's Māori. But there's a nasty edge and we saw that on day one here didn't we? Didn't we? He came after us. Simon—he is so intent on being the leader. And he's got this group behind him—these right-wing fundamentalists who so want to put him up as the leader of the National Party. But I don't think it's going to work out.But the real man—the person the Māori who should lead the National Party—is Jami-Lee Ross. Jami-Lee—I see look OK he's got anger problems. We know that and the Speaker knows that but we'll put him on Whānau Ora. We'll put him on a programme. He'll come right sir with your counsel with your support. We'll look after Jami. Jami's got aspiration. He's good looking. He's young. He's been ignored you know. So he went a bit crazy one day—we all know that. We all saw it. But Mr Speaker you'll help him. And I like Jami.SPEAKER: Order! Order!Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Oh sorry my apologies again sir. But his main positive is he's from Ngati Porou—whanaunga to myself and Peeni—and I think he could go on to great things.So I say to Dr Shane Reti and Joanne Hayes over there—support Jami-Lee Ross as the new leader of the National Party. Kia ora tātou."