Hernandez FranciscoFRANCISCO HERNANDEZ (Green): Thank you Mr Chair. I just want to reiterate my question again because the Minister hasn't answered it yet and I acknowledge that it might be because of some confusion between myself and my esteemed colleague Lawrence Xu-Nan. The Minister might have thought that she's answered my question when in fact she's answered Lawrence's question.So I'll just reiterate my question again and add on a couple more. Again my question asked whether the Minister has had specific advice on how the levy rates and the proposed increases affect New Zealand's ability to meet our domestic methane target. And the second part of my previous question was: has she had specific advice on how the levy rates have affected New Zealand's ability to meet our nationally determined contribution?I have two extra questions as well. We know that there are different levy rates in Schedule 2. There are three different ones: for municipal disposal facilities for managed or controlled fill disposal facilities and for construction and demolition fill disposal facilities.We know that the municipal disposal facilities are class 1 landfills and that the construction and demolition fill sites are still landfills and receive organic waste. So was consideration given to equalising the rates of both of those to align at least the construction and demolition landfill to meet the rates of the municipal disposal landfills given that there are otherwise incentives for companies—and we've heard the supplementary paper refer to this as well. The ministry has acknowledged the concerns from some submitters in a previous round of consultation that some people might reclassify waste that should be going to class 1 landfills as construction and demolition waste so that it goes to class 2 landfills. That is significant many class 1 landfills except those that are too small to qualify are required to have landfill gas capture technology and class 2 landfills are not required to have that technology which means that this rate differentiation may in fact create perverse incentives for people to reclassify their waste so that it goes to the class 2 landfills. And I'm sure that all the members of this House who care about a clean green Aotearoa would agree that that would be a really bad outcome from this bill. So I'm just curious as to whether there's been any analysis or any advice done on that.Also because we have not had the opportunity to go to through a select committee process and there's not been an opportunity for people to submit like they usually would I just want to make sure I get on the record in Hansard some of the stakeholder views on what the increase in this levy fund could be used for. I refer to paragraph 63 and page 14 of the supplementary report. When asked what the levy revenue should be spent on a majority of respondents indicated a preference for funding waste infrastructure followed by compliance monitoring and enforcement and behaviour change activities—mentioned by nearly one-third of submitters. Approximately 25 percent of the submitters responded that the levy revenue should be able to be spent in line with the waste hierarchy or the top end of the waste hierarchy.So the top end of the waste hierarchy is focused on avoiding waste altogether. The middle layer is spent on recovering waste so that we at least get some value from the waste that we do generate. And the bottom is the worst kinds of activities which is disposal either to landfill or even below that disposal to skyfall which is waste incineration which is the worst of the bunch.The stakeholder views go on to describe how there were no comments in relation to spending levy funds on managing waste from emergency response and no comments on administration—what the other things should be spent on. I'm aware that I'm straying a little bit back to Schedule 1 so I'll make sure that I park myself back into Part 2 and reiterate the questions I had around how the levy rate affects New Zealand's ability to impact our climate targets both domestic and international commitments under the nationally determined contributions.Also the new question that I asked in this are was: was there consideration or advice or any thinking around the desire to equalise the levy rates for class 2 and class 1 landfill given the potential to create perverse incentives if these are not aligned?