Reti ShaneDr SHANE RETI (National—Whangarei): Thank you Madam Chair. It's a pleasure to speak to this bill and to be a part of this debate. I think it's interesting to look at the concerns that MPs brought to the Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade Committee how that was shaped by the select committee whether there were still concerns at the end of the process and how that aligned with the various submitters. I think if we look across some of the party positions—we heard my colleague David Parker speak a moment ago about his initial concerns and clearly still raising some of them with the Minister around dual use and in fact he raised that at the first reading. Now at that time we were all actually working through the Rocket Lab legislation and so we were doing parallel legislation looking at dual-purpose situations—particularly GPS as he's mentioned. Although I would note that one of the submitters also raised the question around drones and what the position with drones would be—clearly some could be for sport but some might also have a military basis.I think the question's been put to the Minister: does the legislation correctly address this? I think we've heard the chair of the select committee talk to recommendation (b) clause 4(2) that does provide some clarity around dual use but I think there is some work for the Minister to do there. I think Barry Coates also brought some concerns initially to the committee—some of them I think have been addressed in the committee process some not. More specifically Barry raised the question around whether mercenaries should be included in this sort of legislation. Now I wasn't privileged to be part of this committee but I have had a brief look through and I don't see that addressed. Maybe it's outside the scope or it's something new that hasn't subsequently been addressed and maybe the Minister in the chair Tracey Martin could talk to that also.If we then go across to the other party who I would mention New Zealand First Ron Mark was very emphatic as he came to select committee as to what his position was. He said in the House that basically this should be an amendment to the Customs and Excise Act and I think his words were What sort of palaver and waste of time is this?" It's kind of interesting now that it's in the name of his leader Winston Peters that suddenly the member is quiet on that. Be that as it may that was certainly what he brought to the first reading.I think if we look at the nine submitters there are a wide range of submitters. I think their submissions as I looked at them were thoughtful. They did raise questions that the officials needed to go away and work on. As we look at the recommendations that come from the select committee as we interpret them they seem to be addressing relatively well the concerns of the submitters. I think the recommendations are clear. I think the points we've heard raised—again from David Parker—around dual use do need just a little bit further clarification but otherwise I thought as the chair of the select committee had said that most of the work was pretty straightforward.So there are a few points for the Minister to talk to. Again I'm interested to know if New Zealand First are assuaged by this—with their vehement opposition to the first reading did the select committee process change or help that? Are the Greens feeling that in Barry Coates' absence the select committee addressed his questions around mercenaries as well? I'd be very interested to hear that sort of response from the Minister as well. Thank you Madam Chair."