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Carter David: Motions — New York City Marathon 2013—Congratulations to Rt Hon David Carter SpeakerText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Motions — New York City Marathon 2013—Congratulations to Rt Hon David Carter Speaker[Sitting date: 06 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14391. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: The question is that the motion be agreed to. All those in favour say Aye to the contrary No. The motion is carried unanimously and please note that I abstained!Motion agreed to.
Mallard Trevor: Motions — New York City Marathon 2013—Congratulations to Rt Hon David Carter SpeakerText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Motions — New York City Marathon 2013—Congratulations to Rt Hon David Carter Speaker[Sitting date: 06 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14391. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South): I seek leave to move without notice or debate a motion congratulating the Speaker on his performance in the New York City Marathon.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought for such a course of action. Is there any objection? There appears to be none. Thank you all very very much.Hon TREVOR MALLARD: I moveThat the House notes the superb performance of the Speaker in the New York Marathon and hopes that in the future he can go under 4 hours.
Urgent Debates Declined — Interislander Ferries—AratereMalfunctionText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUrgent Debates Declined — Interislander Ferries—AratereMalfunction[Sitting date: 06 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14406. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Urgent Debates DeclinedInterislander Ferries—Aratere MalfunctionMr SPEAKER: I have received a letter from the Rt Hon Winston Peters seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the state of the interisland ferry service following the ferryAratere suffering mechanical problems in Cook Strait last night. TheAratere’s mechanical problem of yesterday is a particular case of recent occurrence involving ministerial responsibility. However KiwiRail’s response is ongoing. Surveyors are ascertaining the damage the remedies and the time frame for theAratere resuming service. A Transport Accident Investigation Commission inquiry has also been opened.The big hurdle to get over in an urgent debate application is whether the matter has reached the stage where the business of the House should be set aside. The test is a high one. Every incident cannot be the basis for a debate even though on the face of it the incident may be significant. I am not convinced that I would be justified in setting aside the business of the House today. The application is therefore declined.
Motions — New York City Marathon 2013—Congratulations to Rt Hon David Carter SpeakerText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMotions — New York City Marathon 2013—Congratulations to Rt Hon David Carter Speaker[Sitting date: 06 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14391. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Wednesday 6 November 2013Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.MotionsNew York City Marathon 2013—Congratulations to Rt Hon David Carter SpeakerHon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South): I seek leave to move without notice or debate a motion congratulating the Speaker on his performance in the New York City Marathon.Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought for such a course of action. Is there any objection? There appears to be none. Thank you all very very much.Hon TREVOR MALLARD: I moveThat the House notes the superb performance of the Speaker in the New York Marathon and hopes that in the future he can go under 4 hours.Mr SPEAKER: The question is that the motion be agreed to. All those in favour say Aye to the contrary No. The motion is carried unanimously and please note that I abstained!Motion agreed to.
Twyford Phil: Social Housing Reform (Housing Restructuring and Tenancy Matters Amendment) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTwyford Phil: Social Housing Reform (Housing Restructuring and Tenancy Matters Amendment) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14612. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]PHIL TWYFORD (Labour—Te Atatū): I would like to make an opening comment in the Committee stage of the Social Housing Reform (Housing Restructuring and Tenancy Matters Amendment) Bill. I want to begin by making some comments about the provisions in Part 1 of the bill and refer those listening tonight to new section 57AA inserted by clause 12.The bill as those members who have looked at it will know is divided into two parts. The first part contains a number of provisions that will come into force I think on the day after the Royal assent. The other provisions in Part 2 are designed to kick into life at a later point. I want to comment particularly about the issue of reviewable tenancies which is probably the major sticking point for Labour in this bill. It is the main reason that we are voting against this bill. We believe that the extension of reviewable tenancies to all Housing New Zealand tenants is a retrograde step. I want to comment on new section 57AA in clause 12 of Part 1 which gives Housing New Zealand the power immediately upon the Royal assent to impose these reviewable tenancies on all Housing New Zealand tenants.Back in mid-2011 when the Hon Phil Heatley was the Minister of Housing in the bad old days the Government changed the policy and extended to all new Housing New Zealand tenants the possibility that they would have their tenancies reviewed.The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): I am sorry to interrupt the honourable member. The time has come for me to report progress.House resumed.The Chairperson reported the Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill with amendment the Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill with amendment and that the Committee had divided it into three bills no progress on the Social Housing Reform (Housing Restructuring and Tenancy Matters Amendment) Bill and no progress on the Insolvency Practitioners Bill.Report adopted.
Vote: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14610. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment to the amendment be agreed to.Ayes53New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 11; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment to the amendment not agreed to.Amendments agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 374 in the name of the Hon Simon Bridges to Part 3 be agreed to.Part 3 as amended agreed to.
Ross Jami-Lee: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14610. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I moveThat the question be now put.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Andrew Little to the proposed amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 374 in the name of the Hon Simon Bridges to insert new clause 54B be agreed to:insert in subsection (4) “providing that such consultation does not impede the incident controller in making decisions in a timely and efficient way” after “the incident controller must consult other relevant persons or agencies including the persons and agencies described in subsection (3)(c).”
Tisch Lindsay: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14609. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): I call the Hon Damien O’Connor.
Tisch Lindsay: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14607. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): We now move to Part 3 and this is debate on clauses 40 to 56 and schedule 4.
Vote: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14607. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes53New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 11; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.Part 2 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14606. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes54New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 374 in the name of the Hon Simon Bridges to Part 2 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 388 in the name of Andrew Little to clause 27 be agreed to.
Ross Jami-Lee: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14606. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I moveThat the question be now put.
O'Connor Simon: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeO'Connor Simon: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14605. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SIMON O’CONNOR (National—Tāmaki): I moveThat the question be now put.
Vote: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14597. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes56New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendments not agreed to.Part 1 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14597. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes64New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes55New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 374 in the name of the Hon Simon Bridges to Part 1 be agreed to.Amendments agreed to.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 387 in the name of Andrew Little to clause 7 be agreed to.
Auchinvole Chris: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeAuchinvole Chris: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14597. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Bridges Simon: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBridges Simon: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14595. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon SIMON BRIDGES (Minister of Labour): I believe the spirit of tripartism certainly is in this bill the Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill. I disagree with members of Labour and the Greens when they say that it is not. Indeed in clauses 7 and 8 of this bill it is very clear that the Minister must have regard to the perspectives of workers and of employers. I do not agree with the member Sue Moroney that there is anything at all unclear about that. Of course we also see enshrined in clause 8 the ability to establish advisory groups that are specifically in relation to tripartism—a forum for dialogue and cooperation between the Government employers and workers.As I have said at the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee—and as the member Darien Fenton made clear—Ross Wilson is on the board right now. Frankly I cannot envisage a situation when there would not be someone of his calibre there. He is of course a former president of the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions like the member Andrew Little. Ross Wilson is one of the few New Zealand Council of Trade Unions presidents who has had the good sense not to try to come to this place but that is another matter. I think what is also true is that we—Sue Moroney: What other New Zealand Council of Trade Unions presidents have come here?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: Well we have heard very recently that the current one would not mind coming here. Indeed there have been some tweets on that.Sue Moroney: What other ones have come here?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: Well as I just said the current one. But what is also true is that in selecting a board I believe—and I think actually the members around this House on reflection would believe as well—that we want the best possible board. We want a board that is not just some tick-box exercise but that has the very best skills expertise and experience to drive health and safety advancement in this country.Very soon I am sure once I have gone through the appropriate process I will be announcing the final board for WorkSafe New Zealand which this bill establishes on 16 December. I think the members of this Committee will see it is a board of exceptionally high quality which does have perspectives of workers perspectives of business and perspectives of the public sector and which will do an excellent job at the end of this year and next year driving advancement and frankly a step change in health and safety in this country.
Robertson H V Ross: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14593. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): No I am going to call the honourable member Kevin Hague. He is pleading with me.
Barry Maggie: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBarry Maggie: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14593. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore): I moveThat the question be now put.
Bridges Simon: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBridges Simon: Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14587. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon SIMON BRIDGES (Minister of Labour): Last week I was in full flight in the debate on the Health and Safety (Pike River Implementation) Bill answering some of the reasonable contributions from around the Chamber. It was a great pleasure to speak then as it is now because this is a bill that I anticipate does have multiparty support and quite rightly so given its content and given that we are all I think unified in trying to do something very good in terms of health and safety and lifting that in this country.Let me not take up more time now; I may make a contribution later. Let me just acknowledge the member Brendan Horan who came to my office with Supplementary Order Paper 371. It was a helpful contribution and we have effectively been able to amalgamate it or subsume it into the Government’s Supplementary Order Paper Supplementary Order Paper 374. It was of course to do with the entitlements of workers transferring from the Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment through to WorkSafe. So I just place on record my thanks to him for his useful contribution in that regard.
Robertson H V Ross: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14586. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): It is Tuesday evening!The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 369 in the name of Metiria Turei to Part 4 be agreed to.Amendments not agreed to.Part 4 as amended agreed to.
Macindoe Tim: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14586. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (Junior Whip—National): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I apologise I have cast the vote in Part 3 incorrectly for the Māori Party. The Māori Party’s vote should in fact be cast against the Minister’s amendment and Part 3 standing part. I would be grateful if the record could be corrected.The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): So you are seeking leave to amend the record?TIM MACINDOE: I am seeking leave.The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Is there any objection to that course of action—there was no vote on Part 3; it was agreed on. That is OK?TIM MACINDOE: That is fine. My apologies. There was a vote but it was actually on a—The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Yes the only vote was on the honourable member Metiria Turei’s amendments. OK.TIM MACINDOE: That’s fine. No correction needed. I apologise for apologising.
Vote: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14586. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes102New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 33; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan.Noes18Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; Mana 1.Amendments agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14585. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Could honourable members now turn their minds to Part 4. It is debate on clauses 36 to 68 and it also includes the schedules 2 and 3.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 389 in the name of the Rt Hon John Key to Part 4 be agreed to.
Vote: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14585. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes15Green Party 14; Mana 1.Noes105New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 33; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan.Amendments not agreed to.Part 3 as amended agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14585. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Metiria Turei’s amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 369 deleting clause 27D is out of order as it is contrary to an earlier decision of the Committee. So that has been ruled on. But we do have another one in the name of the honourable member Metiria Turei. It is the remaining amendments to Part 3 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 369. All those in favour please say Aye to the contrary No. The Noes have it?Hon Members: Party vote.The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Party vote called for. The Clerk will please conduct a party vote. Just to make sure and so that I am not confused these are Metiria Turei’s remaining amendments to Part 3 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 369. That is what I have here. So it is not the one that was set out on Supplementary Order Paper 369 deleting clause 27D because that was out of order. But there is another one. I think the Greens will want to vote for this one. So let me put it again.Hon Ruth Dyson: They’ve said that. They’ve called a party vote.The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): You want a party vote? I just want to make sure you know what the situation is. OK we will have a party vote. Please conduct a party vote.The question was put that the remaining amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 369 in the name of Metiria Turei to Part 3 be agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14584. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): I call and recognise the Hon Ruth Dyson.
Finlayson Christopher: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFinlayson Christopher: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14580. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General): Part 3 deals with services for members of Parliament. I refer members to clause 17 which sets out the principles. There are to be three decision makers in relation to the provision of services for MPs. They are the Remuneration Authority the Speaker and in certain circumstances the Minister responsible for Ministerial Services. In relation to all the services that the respective decision makers provide they are to have regard to certain principles and it is worth noting those principles including the need to be fair to the taxpayer the need for the promotion of transparency and the maintenance of confidence in the integrity of Parliament and in the independence of the Remuneration Authority.There are three types of services. Clause 18 sets out the services to be provided by the Remuneration Authority and the way in which the authority is to make its determination. Clause 24 provides that the Speaker is to be given responsibility for setting directions on travel and communications services for MPs and on party and member support funding and sets out the way in which the Speaker is to go about making that determination.Clause 27A deals with the provision of services or entitlements for Ministers. The Minister responsible for Ministerial Services is to make that determination and the following clauses set out how the Minister responsible for Ministerial Services is to go about that task. The only other clause I would refer members to is clause 30 which provides for quarterly reports on travel and accommodation expenses to be prepared by the general manager of the Parliamentary Service and to be made available in respect of each member of Parliament and each party.
Vote: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14580. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes16Green Party 14; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes104New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 33; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendments not agreed to.Part 2 as amended agreed to.The result corrected after originally being announced as Ayes 15 Noes 105.
Dyson Ruth: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDyson Ruth: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14576. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon RUTH DYSON (Labour—Port Hills): Can I first of all acknowledge the Minister in the chair the Attorney-General and say that it is admirable to have such a high level of education and understanding about so many matters of the world but still be able to speak in language that the rest of us can understand. It is such an admirable quality. Very few people in that position have it.I want to make a brief contribution to Part 2 of the Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill as well. One of the debates at the GovernmentAdministration Committee was about not just the role of the Remuneration Authority but also the size of it and the competency of the members. It was not in any way to challenge the competency of the existing members but really to look at what mix of skills might be required on the Remuneration Authority. It is my recollection that the select committee made a small amendment to it by lopping one of the proposed new members off it and retaining it at the current size. I think that was a good decision.I share the view of my colleague who has just resumed his seat Chris Hipkins that we should have a much higher level of penalty on members of Parliament who have been elected to be representatives either of their constituency or of their party and do not bother to show up in the House. I find that immensely frustrating. All of us of course would like to stay in our electorates or in our home areas at various times. But being in Parliament—and not just being here physically but actually being a participant in Parliament—is why we were elected we should always face up to that being a fundamental part of our responsibility.The previous regime let us off far too lightly and I think that we could actually go a little further than this bill but it is a good step forward in the right direction. As for the idea of microchipping members of Parliament and having GPS trackers on us—what harm would be done? I am sure it would provide other members of Parliament and—[Interruption] It would certainly provide the media with a lot of additional copy to prepare I am sure.But on a serious note members of the public know that we get very well paid for the role we undertake as their elected representatives and the very least we can do is make sure we turn up at the appropriate time. So we have a penalty provision for people who do not show up but do not have a legitimate reason—and of course there are reasons that are legitimate when a member of Parliament might not be physically in the Chamber at any particular time or indeed in the precincts of Parliament—and we also have provisions for people if they are suspended from the House. I think that a deduction of salary is entirely appropriate and I am very pleased that we introduced those stronger AWOL provisions.
Hipkins Chris: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHipkins Chris: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14576. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS HIPKINS (Labour—Rimutaka): I want to make just a very brief contribution to this part of the debate on the Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill because I do not think that Part 2 changes a huge amount with regard to the way members of Parliament are paid. The most substantive provisions are the AWOL provisions—so basically those are for members who are absent without leave. As a former whip I did discuss this with my caucus colleagues of course and suggested that in fact this clause did not go far enough. They did not approve of my microchipping idea which I thought might help or ankle bracelets which was the other option that I thought could be a useful contribution in the Committee. They did not think that that went far enough or maybe they thought that I was going a bit far.I think that this is actually a really important provision. It is important that we have very good rules within the parliamentary Standing Orders for members to be absent from the House for legitimate parliamentary reasons. If members are absent without legitimate parliamentary reason and without leave then there is actually very little the Speaker can do about it. I think that we became very aware of that over the last couple of terms of Parliament and the only really substantive change that Part 2 of this bill makes is to give the Speaker the ability to do something about it. So I think that it is a very welcome addition.
Finlayson Christopher: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFinlayson Christopher: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14576. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General): Just a brief commentary from me on Part 2—Chris Hipkins: Make it brief.Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: Well it can be brief I say to Mr Hipkins because I can say it in words that he will understand. Part 2 is concerned with salaries and allowances of members of Parliament. Clauses 9 to 13 very importantly set out the role of the Remuneration Authority which is appointed to determine the salaries and allowances. Clause 14 sets out provisions relating to substantial increases in financial penalties for members who are absent from the House without permission with deductions starting after 3 days’ absence—I think Mr Mallard called it the “Chris Carter clause”—and clause 14A introduces a financial penalty for members who are suspended from the House. The clauses covering financial penalties for members suspended are new and they reflect a recommendation that was made by the Standing Orders Committee.
Vote: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14576. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendments be agreed to.Ayes15Green Party 14; Mana 1.Noes105New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 33; New Zealand First 7; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan.Amendments not agreed to.Part 1 agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14575. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Order! He was responding to an interjection about where someone was and he replied. That is a rebuttal to an interjection.The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 369 in the name of Metiria Turei be agreed to.
Stewart Barbara: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeStewart Barbara: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14575. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]BARBARA STEWART (Whip—NZ First): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I wonder whether you could please bring to that new member’s notice the fact that the Standing Orders actually prevent him from talking about somebody’s absence from the House or whereabouts that person—
Finlayson Christopher: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeFinlayson Christopher: Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill — In Committee[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14569. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General) on behalf of thePrime Minister: This is a very brief comment on Part 1 of the Members of Parliament (Remuneration and Services) Bill which deals with the preliminary provisions. Clause 3 sets out the purposes of the legislation the primary purpose of which is to ensure that the House and its members are properly supported in a way that maintains confidence in the integrity of Parliament. There will be Supplementary Order Paper 389 to deal with clause 2 the commencement clause to amend the commencement date to 16 December 2013 other than what will be sections 36 to 39 which will come into force on 1 July 2014.
Roy Eric: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — ProcedureText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — Procedure[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14569. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there anyone opposed? There is not. Leave is granted.
Williamson Maurice: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — ProcedureText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilliamson Maurice: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — Procedure[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14568. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (National—Pakuranga) on behalf ofMike Sabin (National—Northland): Following discussions in the Business Committee I seek leave for the Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill to be set down for second reading as private and local order of the day No. 1 on Wednesday 13 November 2013.
Vote: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14568. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A personal vote was called for on the questionThat the New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill be now read a third time.Ayes 61Adams (P)Dunne (P)Key (P)Simpson (P)Ardern S (P)English (P)King CSmith (P)Auchinvole (P)FinlaysonLee (P)Tisch (P)Bakshi (P)Foss (P)Lotu-Iiga (P)Tolley (P)Banks (P)Foster-BellMacindoeTremain (P)Barry (P)Goldsmith (P)McClay (P)Upston (P)Bennett DGoodhew (P)McCully (P)WagnerBennett P (P)Groser (P)McKelvie (P)Wilkinson (P)Borrows (P)Guy (P)MitchellWilliamsonBridges (P)Hauiti (P)Ngaro (P)WoodhouseBrownlee (P)Hayes (P)O’Connor S (P)Yang (P)Calder (P)Heatley (P)Parata (P)Young (P)Carter (P)HenareRoy (P)Coleman (P)Hutchison (P)Ryall (P)Collins (P)Joyce (P)Sabin (P)Teller:Dean (P)Kaye (P)Shanks (P)RossNoes 59Ardern J (P)Harawira (P)MoroneyStreet (P)Browning (P)Hipkins (P)Norman (P)Tirikatene (P)Clark (P)Horan (P)O’Connor D (P)TureiClendon (P)HughesO’Rourke (P)Turia (P)Cosgrove (P)Huo (P)Parker (P)Twyford (P)Cunliffe (P)Jones (P)Peters (P)Walker (P)CurranKing APrasad (P)Wall (P)DelahuntyLees-Galloway (P)ProsserWhaitiriDysonLittleRobertson G (P)WilliamsFaafoiLogie (P)Robertson R (P)Woods (P)FentonLole-TaylorRocheFlavellMackeySage (P)Genter (P)Mahuta (P)Sharples (P)Goff (P)Mallard (P)Shearer (P)Graham (P)MartinSio (P)Teller:Hague (P)Mathers (P)StewartBeaumontBill read a third time.
Ross Jami-Lee: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14567. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (National—Botany): The Opposition parties in this House like to call the New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill a dodgy deal. Well I say that the only dodgy deal is the deal done between the Greens and Labour to conspire against New Zealanders who want to see jobs who want to see investment and who want to see greater tourism come into this country. That is the only dodgy deal. If the other side really cared about New Zealanders it would be supporting this bill. It would be supporting it because it means hundreds of millions of dollars of extra investment into this country it means hundreds of jobs for New Zealanders and it means huge tourism opportunities for this country. The Labour Party members and the Green Party members like to say that they are holier-than-thou and that they actually care about those issues but the complete opposite is the case. The other side of the House is not supporting New Zealanders. The other side of the House likes to talk big when its actual record is completely the opposite. This Government is doing for New Zealanders what members on that side of the House wishes they could do.If they want to talk about records and if they want to talk about their own views on gambling well they should actually look at the numbers and the statistics. They want to go on about gambling harm—well actually the average annual increase in pokie numbers when Labour was in office was 700 per year. The average decrease per year in pokie numbers in New Zealand since National has been in office has been 550. So if the Labour Party wants to be holier-than-thou—[Interruption] That is right Mr Williamson—an average increase of 700 per annum under Labour; an average decrease of 550 per annum under National. But listen to the other side and they will be telling you that we are the evil ones.We are bringing jobs we are bringing investment and we are bringing tourism to New Zealanders. That is what New Zealanders want. Members on the other side should be the ones who are ashamed of themselves.
Roy Eric: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14565. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Carol Beaumont—5 minutes.
Heatley Phil: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHeatley Phil: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14564. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon PHIL HEATLEY (National—Whangarei): For years the tourism industry and the business sector have been asking for investment into a world-class international convention centre in New Zealand. Here we have the opportunity to see one built. The Labour Party driven by the Green Party has decided to highlight the issue of gambling which will take part in the convention centre as part of its activities. Many of us here do not like the idea of gambling. We do not gamble. But the Labour Party driven by the Green Party ignores the fact that the number of pokie machines across New Zealand since National has been in Government has dropped substantially. Furthermore in the next 3 or 4 years the number of pokie machines across New Zealand is going to continue to drop as it has in the last 4 or 5 years.So gambling is an issue about the centre but it is not the key issue. The key issue is a new convention centre for New Zealand—one that will cost $402 million to construct and one that will cater for 3500 international conference delegates at any one time. It has got to be recalled that as the Labour Party opposes this bill the New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill driven by its friends in the Green Party it also opposes oil and gas exploration which has occurred in Taranaki successfully for 100 years. It also opposes driven by the Green Party irrigation in the South Island. It opposes driven by the Green Party the expansion of dairy farming right across New Zealand. The Labour Party at every turn has opposed the development of marine farming and aquaculture. In fact you find that it does not really matter what the private sector puts up to drive the economy and to create jobs the Labour Party now driven by the Green Party will oppose it. That is a very sad state indeed.I support this convention centre. I wish those involved in it well.
Mitchell Mark: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMitchell Mark: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14561. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney): I will take just a short call on this New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill. I do have sympathy for the constituent whom Mr Goff referred to—the lady who was having to pick up her benefit and then go and cash it and use it on a pokie machine. I do not know whether that pokie machine was at Skycity or whether it was at a local venue in her own community. Of course she is going to need some treatment and that is going to have to be combined with her taking some personal responsibility for her own rehabilitation.The point is that we have taken a decision in this country and in this Parliament. Every party that sits in this Parliament has decided that we will not ban pokies we will not ban alcohol and we will not ban the ability to go to the races or to do some sports betting. We have decided that we are not going to penalise the people who do thisresponsibly just because there is a small group of people who form an addiction. We have decided that instead of banning those things we will try to find a way to help them and wrap some support around them. The only solution for this that I saw contained in the minority report written by the Labour Party on the bill was to apply another tax: a levy on international travellers. That is the last thing that we need to be doing when we are a small country at the bottom of the world trying to attract more visitors to our country and trying to grow our tourism sector.So actually having an international convention centre is critically important to our future. It is critically important that we are able to grow our tourism sector. It is important that we are able to create more jobs. During the Committee stage I spoke about my own electorate of Rodney where there are a lot of businesses a lot of boutique lodges and other accommodation which are going to benefit from us being able to attract more international visitors through this international convention centre. I am very happy to recommend this bill to the House. Thank you.
Yang Jian: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeYang Jian: New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third Reading[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14559. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr JIAN YANG (National): Out of the 11219 non-governmental international associations conferences organised in the world in 2012 only 45 were held in New Zealand. This is partly because we do not have the facilities to host the larger conferences. Larger conferences are important to our economy not only because they contribute to our tourism as my colleagues mentioned earlier but also because they would bring us non-quantifiable benefits such as fostering commercial links between international and New Zealand businesses and supporting innovation and knowledge transfer between international delegates and New Zealanders. This Government is delivering what the tourism industry and business sector have been asking for for years. This is one of the initiatives of the National Government to build a more competitive and productive economy.Skycity’s current Host Responsibility programme has been recently described by Associate Professor PaulDelfabbro as one of the most rigorous in the world. The programme will be augmented with new measures including a predictive model created by Focal Research Consultants which analyses loyalty data as a tool to identify players who are at risk from gambling harm.The 230 new pokie machines is the same number granted to Skycity under the previous Labour Government in 2001 for the development of the existing but much smaller Skycity Auckland Convention Centre. Here is what Labour Minister the Hon Mark Burton said on the 2001 agreement: “Skycity’s $140 million investment into this facility will give it the capacity to compete for a whole new range of prestige events. The potential gains from this are widespread—not only for Skycity but for the Auckland city and region the tourism industry and the whole of New Zealand.” As late as 2007 the then Labour Minister of Tourism the Hon Damien O’Connor said that an international convention centre “can offer enormous potential for generating demand in shoulder and off season periods. They can generate high expenditure include leisure travel add-ons and don’t clash with high demand in peak seasons.”The New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill will deliver jobs and growth for all New Zealanders. I commend the bill to the House. Thank you.
Carter David: Points of Order — Members—Declaration of Financial InterestsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Points of Order — Members—Declaration of Financial Interests[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14549. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] Order! Those matters are under consideration. They are not matters that should then be raised in this House or for that matter in the media.
Turei Metiria: Points of Order — Members—Declaration of Financial InterestsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTurei Metiria: Points of Order — Members—Declaration of Financial Interests[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14549. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]METIRIA TUREI (Co-Leader—Green): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Sorry I have one more.Mr SPEAKER: Can I just clarify that this is a fresh point—METIRIA TUREI: Not to do with that conflict—absolutely.Mr SPEAKER: All right we will hear it.METIRIA TUREI: On Friday I sent a letter to your office seeking your view on a privileges complaint that John Banks holds a conflict of interest—
Carter David: Points of Order — Members—Declaration of Financial InterestsText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Points of Order — Members—Declaration of Financial Interests[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14549. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: I thank for the member for the points she is raising. The member may not be aware but following receipt of her letter dated yesterday I have written a substantial reply to the member. I can summarise that very quickly. All members are aware of potential conflicts of interest. It is for members to monitor that not for the Speaker. That applies to any particular debate that may be about to take place in this House.