Jones Dail: Overseas Investment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Jones Dail: Overseas Investment Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
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DAIL JONES (NZ First) 
: 
 I think this bill highlights what is happening in New Zealand to a large extent. Once again we are in danger of drifting back to the situation we had between 1984 and 1990 when Labour came into office and sold off New Zealand and between 1990 and 1999 when National came in and sold off New Zealand. Now we see Labour and National once again combining forces to establish a situation whereby they can once again sell off what little is left. 
I think the preceding speaker could quite easily have been speaking about the wine industry in New Zealand. Small vineyards have been developing in New Zealand. For example Sauvignon Blanc is grown in the Matua Valley area which is where Sauvignon Blanc started in New Zealand. The Matua Valley Wines company is the result of wonderful work done by the Spence brothers. Of course people can reach a certain point at which they ask where they go to from here and inevitably if their family do not want to stay on in the business they ask themselves who will give them the best deal. The best deal may come from an overseas company. 
Deborah Coddington 
: What’s wrong with that? 
DAIL JONES 
: The company loses its New Zealand feel; what is “New Zealand” about it is being sold off. [ 
Interruption 
] What is the name of the company now? We are gradually selling off New Zealand in that sort of way. In the first instance it sounds good but if people think those big international companies are here for the benefit of New Zealand they really have another think coming. People are so naive. Deborah Coddington and Gordon Copeland are so naive. If they think those big overseas companies are here for the benefit of New Zealand they are dreaming. It is absolute dreamtime. They should be with Michael Jackson in never-never land. They are never-never land people if they believe that the big overseas companies are here to help New Zealand. Those wine companies are here only to help their shareholders get all they can out of the New Zealand wine industry. If necessary they would move on tomorrow if there was no more profit and it would be to heck with New Zealand. 
I give members that as an example. I think it is so appropriate to the Helensville electorate and to the sort of thing that happened in West Auckland in the past. We are losing the New Zealand person being involved in and running the business. Those companies are now run not by New Zealanders but by foreign people. Foreign people come to New Zealand and run the companies now and New Zealand jobs go begging. It may be that a New Zealander can get into the company and work his or her way up to the top somewhere in New York or wherever but we have to ask ourselves if we are New Zealanders where is New Zealand in all of that? I raise that as an issue. It is a classic example that I have come across. 
Brian Connell 
: Where’s Ralph Norris going? 
DAIL JONES 
: He is gone; he is lost to New Zealand. He is not here for New Zealand any more. It is a culture thing of course. The National Party member talked about foreigners coming in and it being a racial thing. It is not; it is a pro - New Zealand thing. That is something the National Party does not understand. Those members are here only to talk to the big boys who want $50 million or $150 million deals. We wonder what else can flow on from that to a particular political party. 
New Zealand First does not want a bar of that type of thing. We are here for New Zealand first. We do not want that situation created which is the danger we see in this legislation. Deborah Coddington does not want to stay in Parliament any more and does not have any regard for trying to protect the interests of New Zealand any more. She is going; she is gone. But New Zealand First is here. We make the point that we should not pretend that any of these big companies are here for New Zealand. They are big internationals; they are in New Zealand today and in Chile tomorrow. If the Chilean wine industry booms they will be in Chile tomorrow and in Argentina the next day if they can. That is the way it goes. They would be in South-east Asia if they could grow wine there but it is very very difficult to grow wine from grapes in South-east Asia. 
All the ideas that some of these people come up with sound great but I say to Mr Copeland that I am afraid that he is really out of touch with what big business is about. I am sure that when he was with the oil company it was not working for New Zealand. It was working for its shareholders and its big interests. New Zealand First says we do not want to fall into the trap once again of National and Labour doing a deal and taking turns to sell off New Zealand. That is where New Zealand First comes in. We are in the middle. We want to make sure that everything is straight and fair and that New Zealanders in any deal that is done are protected. New Zealand First’s role is to look after New Zealanders first.