10. Question No. 10—ChildrenKAHURANGI CARTER (Green) to the Minister for ChildrenQuestion No. 10—ChildrenKAHURANGI CARTER (Green): Thank you Mr Speaker. My question is to the Minister for Children and asks: does she stand by her statement regarding cuts to Oranga Tamariki that There will be no financial impact and there'[ll] be no impact on the frontline services. This is a guarantee"?Hon Karen Chhour: Mr Speaker—SPEAKER: The member is displaying a badge that I've in earlier sessions said would remove people from participating in question time. I don't want to cost the Greens a question but I'd suggest that another Minister from the Government might now answer the question. Ask the question again.KAHURANGI CARTER (Green): Thank you Mr Speaker. Does she stand by her statement regarding cuts to Oranga Tamariki that "There will be no financial impact and there'[ll] be no impact on the frontline services. This is a guarantee"?Hon Karen Chhour: Mr Speaker.SPEAKER: No another member from the Government will answer it; you're not answering it wearing the badge. Simple as that.Hon David Seymour: Mr Speaker: yes.SPEAKER: No no. No I'm sorry you're out too. So none the less carry on. I'm just making it very clear: if ACT members want to stand up displaying their party badge they're not going to be recognised. The Government needs to prepare to answer from some other Minister who is complying with my ruling.Hon CHRIS BISHOP (Leader of the House): Point of order. Mr Speaker I understand where you're coming from and we did have a discussion yesterday at Business Committee about this issue. But in the interests of making sure that the honourable member from the Greens gets an answer to her question about this very important issue can I suggest we take the time to perhaps discuss the issue of the lapels further. Because I think respectfully everyone is on board with the idea that members should not be able to display party paraphernalia on boxes and—SPEAKER: I think it would be a good idea if you stopped right now because it's not a point of order; it's a challenge to a ruling. And the member knows that there is a way in which you can go about that. So Kahurangi Carter some other Government Minister I hope will answer you.10. KAHURANGI CARTER (Green) to the Minister for Children: Does she stand by her statement regarding cuts to Oranga Tamariki that "There will be no financial impact and there'[ll] be no impact on the frontline services. This is a guarantee"?Hon LOUISE UPSTON (Minister for Social Development and Employment) on behalf of the Minister for Children: Yes in the context in which the comments were given.Kahurangi Carter: How does she justify cutting the Oranga Tamariki team Tākai which has served as a core pillar of prevention support in early years parenting and will next week be shutting down—even their website—losing a valuable and world-leading resource for young whānau and support workers?Hon LOUISE UPSTON: On behalf of the Minister the Government has been clear that we are protecting front-line services and we are also clear about the requirement to support families in need.Kahurangi Carter: Does she stand by her statement that "It is important that we act decisively and honour the courage of these victims and survivors by making sure that something like this never happens again." and if so why is she implementing a $120 million cut in funding for service providers which will significantly impact front-line care and prevention for children at risk?Hon LOUISE UPSTON: On behalf of the Minister I stand by the comments I've made in the context in which they are given; and also that this Government is committed to ensuring that funds that are provided on behalf of and given by taxpayers are delivering outcomes that we expect them to. Kahurangi Carter: What does she say to the 400 front-line Oranga Tamariki service providers including early years and teen parent services counselling and family and sexual violence services whose contracts have ended on 30 June and have not had clear direction on when or if their contracts will be renewed?Hon LOUISE UPSTON: On behalf of the Minister I understand that it is challenging for organisations that are in a period of time waiting for confirmation of contracts but our Government is committed to ensuring that the tax that is paid by hard-working New Zealanders goes to services that are getting the outcomes that we expect and need for New Zealanders.Kahurangi Carter: What does she say in response to Nikki Hurst of the New Zealand Council of Christian Social Services who says "Some of the things that will be winding up there is no comparable service available in that community."; and how if at all will Oranga Tamariki be filling the gaps in front-line care and prevention that these contract cuts will create?Hon LOUISE UPSTON: On behalf of the Minister our Government is committed to ensuring that services deliver the outcomes that New Zealanders expect and that we continue to evaluate programmes to ensure we're able to deliver the outcomes expected. And I would say to the person that the member has referred to that this is a Government that is listening we are a Government that is committed to delivering for New Zealanders and that is our focus."