Court Simon; Brooking RachelSIMON COURT (ACT): I'm hoping to get some enlightened clarification from the Minister in the chair particularly thinking back to her illustrious career as a resource management lawyer at a time when in my role as a construction manager I might have come to her for advice and particularly when it comes to the matter of designation and notices of requirement. So for those members in the Chamber who are not familiar with this aspect of the current resource management law if you're an asset owner if you want to build an airport if you want to build a State highway or a road or if you have a water pipeline to construct at some point in the future you use a designation tool under the current Resource Management Act which is also provided for in this bill in clause 503 Minister on page 349 which allows an asset owner or a future asset owner to say This is the corridor that crosses people's land in which we want to build our infrastructure but we're not quite sure when we're coming to build it." Of course no one's quite sure because this Government doesn't have a 30-year infrastructure plan that ACT would introduce and in fact there is no funding for infrastructure assured whether it's a State highway network or even three waters after the proposed reform proposal. But what organisations like the New Zealand Transport Agency (NZTA) trading as Waka Kotahi do they get a magic marker like this one and they draw a map across people's private property where they want the road to go in future.I'll give the example of the next stage of State Highway 1 Warkworth to Wellsford which designates a whole lot of private property—farmland for example and even some business-zoned land—between the towns of Warkworth and Wellsford and Auckland for a future four- to six-laning highway project. Everyone knows it's desperately necessary because the current highway route through Dome Valley is regularly subject to slips and floods and has closed diverting traffic on to much less suitable local roads which cannot handle heavy traffic.Minister under the notice of requirement for designation primary and secondary construction notices (CIPs) must be lodged with the territorial authority and identify where this activity is going to take place. But if we look at the requirement under clause 504(4) for a secondary CIP—now this might sound pretty technical to people but imagine you want to build a road 10 years in the future. You want to secure the land so someone else doesn't come and build I don't know a power station in the way or build a whole residential subdivision in the way. You must designate that land and put a notice of requirement over it.But what this requires is that even though you haven't done the design yet you don't know all of those factors that are going to come into the final delivery of the project—whether you might want to add on a cycleway or a pedestrian bridge as well where the on-ramps and off-ramps are going to go. But under clause 504(4) and 504(5) the secondary CIP must show the likely finished contours; the location on the site of the public works and the height shape and bulk; vehicle access circulation and provision for parking; and landscaping. Minister all these won't be delivered until at least the preliminary design if not the detailed design stage. There is no public sector entity that is going to provide this level of detail when they go and seek a designation for a corridor unless they were already budgeted to do all of that design work that normally doesn't happen for some years down the track.Minister we know this has caused a problem. It caused a problem with the Northern Corridor Improvements project in Auckland where NZTA and its partners applied for a designation and were required to include all of this detail that meant when the designer came along to do the final design they said "We can't work with this stuff in the notice of requirement. You've given us conditions that we can't meet we can't design around. The project isn't going to proceed. We're not going to get the benefits out of it."So Minister would you clarify what circumstances require this level of detail? Is this practical and how will this affect actual delivery of projects say that the private sector through a public-private partnership wanting to bring innovation lessons learnt from overseas where they've actually built roads using tolling that people can get to get around on at 130 kilometres an hour like in Texas which I visited last year? Will this make it harder to build Minister?Hon RACHEL BROOKING (Associate Minister for the Environment): Thank you. I just want to note that the problems that the member was speaking about are problems under the Resource Management Act and that is why there is now this spatial footprint process which is at clause 505(1)(c) also noting of course the increase in lapse from five years to 10 years will help with those issues."