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Tirikatene Rino: Administration of Community Sentences and Orders Bill — First Reading 
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Tirikatene Rino: Administration of Community Sentences and Orders Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 08 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:2052. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
RINO TIRIKATENE (Labour—Te Tai Tonga) 
: 
 It gives me great pleasure to— 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Is this a split call? 
Kris Faafoi 
: Yes it is. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Thank you. 
RINO TIRIKATENE 
: —speak at this the first reading of the Administration of Community Sentences and Orders Bill. This is going to be a very short call. I think the member who has just spoken Mark Mitchell definitely has been moonstruck because it was very clear that crime was on the decline before this Government instigated its whole suite of 18 sentencing-related bills. But in terms of this the first reading Labour supports having a corrections system that secures public safety and ensures rehabilitation. This bill is a step in the right direction. Community-based sentences are an initiative that should be fostered and we have long been advocating for that.  
This harkens back to many years ago when we look at what is the purpose of sentencing. Is it there to punish the offender? Is it there to rehabilitate the offender? Is it there to deter the offender or to deter others who might actually see that someone is locked away or is facing a stiff sentence? Or is it there to look at it from the point of view of the victim and therefore we need to be punitive to compensate for the harm that has been inflicted on a victim of the crime?  
I do commend the bill for actually looking at this from the point of view of rehabilitation and also of the reduction in recidivism. It also is fiscally responsible as well in terms of minimising the costs through greater administration of community sentences. This is a very technical bill. It covers a suite of amendments to around three other Acts and I am sure that the Law and Order Committee will give it proper consideration when it gets referred there. I would just like to wrap that up and say that Labour supports this bill’s referral to the select committee. Kia ora.
Vote: Child Support Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Child Support Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 08 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:2038. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Child Support Amendment Bill be now read a first time.  
Ayes 106 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 8; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Bill read a first time. 
Bill referred to the Social Services Committee.
Robertson H V Ross: Child Support Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Robertson H V Ross: Child Support Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 08 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:2035. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: I call the honourable member Rajen Prasad but before I do so can I inform the House that this is a split call. The member will get a bell with 1 minute remaining. Namaste.
Hayes John: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Hayes John: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 08 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:2014. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
JOHN HAYES (National—Wairarapa) 
: 
 It is really unfortunate that after a drubbing in the last election the last speaker the Hon David Cunliffe has not worked out that the community does not share that member’s view that money grows on trees and believes that the Labour Party and its members know better than our communities how to spend their money how to create jobs and how to invest in business. I would say to the last speaker that if the business community is talking to the Labour Party it is probably for the reason of risk mitigation but there is about 0.1 percent of an opportunity for a Labour Government to take over the Treasury benches in 2 years’ time. Most people in New Zealand can see the benefit of the policies being espoused by John Key and Bill English. They can see that the financial crisis has heightened concerns about sovereign debt sustainability and they can see that that has happened across many advanced economies. It has reinforced I think in many people’s minds the notion that no asset can be viewed as truly safe.  
I agree with Mr Cunliffe that recent downgrades of sovereign debt or of sovereigns previously considered to be virtually riskless have reaffirmed that even highly valued assets are subject to risk. If we look across the horizon we can see that sovereign spreads have declined we have seen that bank funding markets have reopened and we see also that equity prices have recovered. But the pressure on European banks remains including from sovereign risk. The weak euro area of growth and the need to strengthen capital cushions to regain investor trust are still very important. I think that some bank deleveraging is still required but in a way that avoids serious damage to asset prices or credit supply and economic activity. Mr Cunliffe’s formula will cause negative consequences in each of those three areas.  
It is very important that we avoid fresh setbacks because we have got a very difficult and critical path forward that is going to be fraught with political and implementation risk. What is going on here and a point that no speaker has made yet is that in this International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill we are adjusting the law in a way that will help New Zealand contribute to the IMF’s efforts to bolster the global firewall against catastrophe. I therefore support this bill because it will promote stability and it will help move the global economy to a path that inspires confidence. That is critically important for New Zealand and all New Zealanders.
Mallard Trevor: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Mallard Trevor: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 08 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1999. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
11. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
 to the  
Prime Minister 
: Does he believe Hon John Banks when he said on Friday 27 April 2012 that he could not remember a helicopter trip to the Dotcom mansion and if not was Mr Banks’ comment consistent with clause 2.53 of the Cabinet Office Manual which states “… at all times Ministers are expected to act lawfully and to behave in a way that upholds and is seen to uphold the highest ethical standards. Ultimately Ministers are accountable to the Prime Minister for their behaviour.”? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister) 
: 
 Yes. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Did he personally speak to John Banks before the House resumed last Tuesday to discuss what Mr Banks remembered with regard to the helicopter trip; and if not why not? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: No. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Does he stand by his statement: “The appointment of a minister … has to be done on the basis that … I can look that person in the eye and have confidence that I can rely on their word.”; and if so why did he not apply that test to John Banks? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: Yes and that is why I would never have that member in my Cabinet. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker.  
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! A point of order has been called. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: I would never want to get close enough— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Oh no. Order! [ 
Interruption 
] No I am on my feet and all comments will cease. Order! I guess we get into some difficulty when answers are not helpful. I did not intervene because the line of questioning is a fairly personal line of questioning. But the Prime Minister should not have given that last part of that answer and certainly the Hon Trevor Mallard should not have responded under a point of order in the way that he did. Let us call the score one all at this stage and move on. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Why did he not apply the “looking in the eye” test to John Banks? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: Because that was not necessary. What was necessary was to confirm that the allegations made by the Hon Trevor Mallard that the member had broken the Local Electoral Act were not correct. He gave me that cast-iron assurance through my chief of staff and I accept that.  
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Can the Prime Minister confirm that he understands the difference between a Skycity donation and a trip to Dotcom? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: Well I do not have any responsibility for that so I cannot really answer the question for the member.  
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: When he finally did talk to John Banks did he tell him that employing Simon Lusk was not desirable? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: No.
Mitchell Mark: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Mitchell Mark: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 08 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1996. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
8. 
MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) 
 to the  
Minister of Justice 
: What steps is the Government taking to reduce unnecessary parole hearings? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Justice) 
: 
 In keeping with the Government’s post-election action plan and law and order policies Cabinet has agreed to amend the Parole Act so that prisoners in future will be screened to postpone unnecessary parole hearings. The maximum interval between parole hearings will be increased from 1 year to 2 years for all offenders and the maximum postponement of parole hearings for offenders serving long sentences will be increased to 5 years. The Parole Board will be able to direct that hearings be brought forward if an offender has engaged in rehabilitative programmes earlier than expected. 
Mark Mitchell 
: What will be the benefits of reducing unnecessary parole hearings? 
Hon JUDITH COLLINS 
: This Government is putting victims at the heart of the justice system. These changes will reduce the stress and anxiety on victims by cutting the number of times they need to attend unnecessary parole hearings. It will enable the Parole Board to better focus its time on those offenders who have a more genuine chance of getting parole and it will help to incentivise offenders to take responsibility for their offending by completing rehabilitation programmes to help them gain earlier consideration for parole. Savings to Government of $700000 per annum will also be available.
Auchinvole Chris: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Auchinvole Chris: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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12. 
CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National) 
 to the  
Minister of Broadcasting 
: What progress is the Government making towards the digital switchover? 
Hon CRAIG FOSS (Minister of Broadcasting) 
: 
 Good progress has been made in helping New Zealand households make the digital switch-over: 84 percent of New Zealand households have already gone digital and are enjoying more channels better pictures and new services. In fewer than 5 months by 30 September TV in Hawke’s Bay and on the West Coast of the South Island goes digital. The Going Digital team is continuing to work to help thousands make the digital switch-over. To keep watching TV all New Zealanders need to go digital by getting FreeView Sky or TelstraClear by the end of 2013.  
Chris Auchinvole 
: What steps are being taken to help households make the digital switch-over? 
Hon CRAIG FOSS 
: To assist households in Hawke’s Bay and on the West Coast of the South Island to make the digital switch-over community advisers have been going door-to-door meeting with community groups and promoting Going Digital messages. I am informed that by the end of this month 22000 households will have been visited in Hawke’s Bay and will have been doorknocked. This is in addition to the TV radio and print advertising that has been running. People looking to go digital and wanting to work out when their region goes digital and what equipment they need will need to either visit the Going Digital website or call 0800 838 800.
Hayes John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Hayes John: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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6. 
JOHN HAYES (National—Wairarapa) 
 to the  
Minister of Defence 
: What reports has he received regarding New Zealand Defence Force training exercises? 
Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Defence) 
: 
 I have received reports relating to Exercise Alam Halfa currently taking place across the central North Island. This exercise involves approximately 1500 New Zealand Defence Force personnel from all three services of the Defence Force. It is the largest military exercise to take place in New Zealand in the last 15 years.  
John Hayes 
: How does this exercise assist in advancing the Government’s long-term strategy for the New Zealand Defence Force? 
Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN 
: The New Zealand Defence Force will have a joint amphibious task force at the core of its force structure by 2015. This task force will draw upon the strengths of all three services to enhance the ability to rapidly deploy people and capabilities. In line with this Exercise Alam Halfa sees our army navy and air force working together under a joint command and coordinating their activities appropriately. It is an example of how in defence this Government is focused on optimising the impact of the New Zealand Defence Force’s resources.
Lotu-Iiga Sam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Lotu-Iiga Sam: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 08 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1993. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
4. 
Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA (National—Maungakiekie) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development 
: What recent announcements has she made on the Government’s welfare reforms to support more people off welfare? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 Under Budget 2012 we will provide $287.5 million over the next 4 years for the first phase of the Government’s welfare reforms to support more New Zealanders into work and education. This includes $81.5 million of new upfront funding with the remainder reprioritised funding from within the Ministry of Social Development. The Government’s welfare changes require significant upfront financial support and we have made that commitment to ensure fewer people remain trapped on welfare. 
Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga 
: Under these welfare reforms what support will be available for teen parents with children? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: Under Budget 2012 we have allocated $80 million over 4 years available to young parents receiving assistance under this youth package. Of this $36.1 million will support a new guaranteed childcare assistance payment over the next 4 years providing childcare for a child to attend an approved early childhood education service. It also includes nearly $44 million to Vote Education to ensure those extra early childhood education places are available. 
Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga 
: How will the new funding support disengaged 16 and 17-year-olds not in education employment or training and how does this compare with what was previously available to support this at-risk group? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: Budget 2012 provides $134.7 million for youth service providers. This increases the funding that previously went into youth services by $75.9 million over 4 years. Youth providers will have unprecedented flexibility to work with these “neet” young people and teen parents to get them either into education working towards National Certificate of Educational Achievement level 2 or in training. And for the first time the Ministry of Education will share information with the Ministry of Social Development to stop these young people becoming “neet” long term. 
Jacinda Ardern 
: What evidence does she have to show that $1 billion will be saved by her reforms or is it what she calls a best guess and therefore as robust as the 170000 new jobs we are still waiting to be created? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: That is modelling that was done by Treasury and the Ministry of Social Development. They came up with that figure and there are a whole lot of variables to it so it is a best guess.
Tisch Lindsay: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Tisch Lindsay: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 08 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:2015. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I understand the next call is a split call. I will ring the bell with a minute to go.
Sittings of the House 
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Sittings of the House 
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Sittings of the House 
LOUISE UPSTON (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I seek leave of the House to lift 2 minutes early.  
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There is not.
Mitchell Mark: Administration of Community Sentences and Orders Bill — First Reading 
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[Sitting date: 08 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:2051. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) 
: 
 It is with great pleasure that I take a call on this the Administration of Community Sentences and Orders Bill. It is clear to me that this bill will improve the efficiency and effectiveness of the administration of corrections sentences and orders in the community. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: What does Colin Craig say about this? 
MARK MITCHELL 
: You know Mr Peters I am interested to see you down here today. You are so interested in this bill and I just wonder whether it is because it is about home detention. I am not sure but that is the only thing I can come up with. This is another part of our great programme of reform in which we have passed 18 new laws and made other policy changes to improve public safety— 
Hon Simon Bridges 
: 18? 
MARK MITCHELL 
: —and the rights of victims. That is right—18 new laws. This is one of our next steps to further strengthen sentencing bail and parole laws. 
We promised to stay tough on criminals and we are staying tough on criminals. We are focused on making sure the rights of victims are looked after within our justice system. Before this Government came into office in 2008 crime was on the rise gangs were growing stronger prisons were bursting at the seams P was seriously damaging our communities violent repeat offenders were being freed on parole and our courts were clogged and congested. National is turning that round. Our comprehensive programme of reform has directly resulted in less crime tougher sentences and parole laws more police on the front line a crackdown on illegal drugs and millions of dollars seized from gangs. We have averted the prison crowding crisis as well.  
Generally the current legislation is providing a sound corrections framework. However in our focus on improvement certain provisions have been identified as barriers to managing offenders in the community in a manner that is safe secure humane effective— 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: Iraq was never like this. 
MARK MITCHELL 
: —and efficient. We do want people Mr Peters who are under home detention to be treated humanely and to feel they are secure and we want the public to be safe. The bill will remove those barriers. It is with great pleasure that I stand in support of this bill and I look forward to its arrival at the Law and Order Committee. Thank you.
Vote: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 08 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:2018. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 103 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 8; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 18 
Green Party 14; Maori Party 3; Mana 1. 
Bill read a first time. 
Bill referred to the Finance and Expenditure Committee.
Woodhouse Michael: Sittings of the House 
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[Sitting date: 03 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1986. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 We have 30 seconds to go. In the interests of tidiness I seek leave for the House to rise at this point until the next sitting day.
Roy Eric: Sittings of the House 
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Roy Eric: Sittings of the House 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for the House to rise at this point. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There appears not. Leave is granted.
Huo Raymond: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — Second Reading 
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Huo Raymond: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — Second Reading 
[Sitting date: 03 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1986. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
RAYMOND HUO (Labour) 
: 
 I rise to take a call— 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Order! Is this a split call? 
RAYMOND HUO 
: Yes it is. [ 
Interruption 
]  
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Order! The member should indicate. Is this a split call with the Greens? [ 
Interruption 
] No it is not. Thank you. 
RAYMOND HUO 
: It is on my own. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Proceed. 
RAYMOND HUO 
: Thank you Mr Deputy Speaker. I rise to take a call on the second reading of the Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill. I have in front of me the  
Hansard 
 copy of my speech on the first reading of this bill which was delivered on 25 May 2010. I gave my detailed explanation of why this is a very important bill and why Labour supported this bill. I congratulated the Hon Lianne Dalziel who initially introduced this bill and the Hon Simon Power who subsequently adopted this bill. I wish Mr Power good luck in his new interests and new commitments. I congratulate the Hon Craig Foss who is the Minister now responsible for this bill.  
The bill has been held up. The Government was quoted in the media as saying that it had been held up because of the Government’s workload. That may be the case but if we look at the way the House progressed a number of bills that have been passed into law we are satisfied that certainly this Government has its priorities wrong. For instance last night it passed into law the Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill despite the fact that it creates inconsistency and challenges legal precedent. Labour is opposed to that bill simply because we cannot support inconsistencies in law. The Building Amendment Bill (No 3) was delayed initially and then rushed through because unless it was passed into law a number of good initiatives including New Zealand’s long DIY tradition would not be able to continue in its current form. Overall that bill was passed into law initially in a “wait wait” fashion and subsequently in a “hurry hurry” fashion. That is not a good way to demonstrate competency in the way this House should be run.  
Coming back to this bill the main purpose of the bill is to facilitate increased cooperation between our Commerce Commission and other overseas competition and consumer regulators particularly the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. The bill aligns us with Australia which passed similar legislation in 2007. I note that the Commerce Commission in its submission requested that this bill also apply in respect of information gathered under the Telecommunications Act 2001. Telecom and Vodafone opposed the inclusion which is included in the Australian legislation. I am sure we will look at that closely during the Committee of the whole House stage. I commend this bill to the House. Thank you. 
Bill read a second time.
Mitchell Mark: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — Second Reading 
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Mitchell Mark: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — Second Reading 
[Sitting date: 03 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1986. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) 
: 
 I am very pleased to take a call on the Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill. I have enjoyed listening to the debate in the House today. I am pleased to see that my colleague David Cunliffe is supporting this bill. I do not think there is anything more I can really add at this time so I am very pleased to stand in support of it.
Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — Second Reading 
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Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — Second Reading 
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KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National) 
: 
 I take this opportunity to speak on the second reading of the Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill. This bill like the others presented by this National-led Government reaffirms our commitment to increase the New Zealand economy’s performance which will lead to job creation and to higher incomes and thereby to better living standards. It is part of our four priorities outlined by our leader the Rt Hon John Key for this term. This bill leads to an increase in our economic performance because its main aim is to facilitate and increase cooperation between the New Zealand Commerce Commission and its counterparts in other parts of the world particularly the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission and other relevant regulators in Australia. I sincerely feel that the bill will serve as a big help for our exporters. I commend this bill to the House.
Vote: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 03 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1972. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Transport and Industrial Relations Committee consider the bill. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Question agreed to.
Vote: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Vote: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 03 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1972. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the motion be agreed to. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to.
Tolley Anne: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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[Sitting date: 03 May 2012. Volume:679;Page:1972. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Acting Leader of the House)  
on behalf of the Minister of Immigration: I move  
That the Immigration Amendment Bill be reported to the House by 10 September 2012.
Smith Nick: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — Second Reading 
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Smith Nick: Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill — Second Reading 
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Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson) 
: 
 I want to firstly commend Craig Foss the Minister in charge of this bill the Commerce Commission (International Co-operation and Fees) Bill and the Commerce Committee for the good job that they have done with this legislation which is part of the Government’s broader agenda of providing the right sort of framework for New Zealand to be internationally competitive to grow and to create jobs.  
One of the most complex areas of law is around this issue of anti-trust legislation that goes back more than 100 years. And it is particularly critical for very small countries like New Zealand where a large amount of commerce occurs within an international context and particularly for New Zealand with Australia. So where you get a very consistent picture from members of the Government is that we see ourselves as an international trading nation that is open to New Zealand picking up the opportunities from globalisation but also wanting to have very clear rules about making sure that that occurs fairly and in a competitive way and this bill is part of that agenda.  
Where I do find it a bit contradictory is that there are members of this House who are sort of confused about when they support internationalisation and when they do not. What you get from this Government is a consistent approach of supporting the growth of businesses and supporting clear international rules. In my view this bill in allowing greater cooperation between New Zealand’s Commerce Commission and the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission is actually about providing the right sort of framework for all business to be able to grow competitively create jobs and ensure that this economy is able to match up internationally. So it is very good in my view that the House broadly supports this legislation and we should get on and progress it through the House.
Tisch Lindsay: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I understand the next call is a split call. I will ring the bell with a minute to go.
Robertson H V Ross: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Robertson H V Ross: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: If the member is seeking the call then she must do so. I would refer her to Speaker’s ruling 25/2.
Henare Tau: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Henare Tau: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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3. 
Hon TAU HENARE (National) 
 to the  
Minister of Finance 
: What will be the Government’s approach in the Budget to ensure it remains on track to fiscal surplus in 2014/15? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance) 
: 
 Consistent with previous Budgets the Government’s approach will be balanced and considered but in particular the measure of achievement will be whether the funding is working and getting results rather than whether Ministers or departments get more funding. 
Hon Tau Henare 
: What progress is the Government making in controlling its spending? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: What is important to the Government is that the spending is effective and that is just as important as how much spending there is. But one measure of the change in spending is this: in the four Budgets between 2005 and 2008 the permanent increase in total Government spending was $15 billion across those four Budgets. In the four Budgets up to the one that will be delivered in a couple of weeks the deliberate and permanent increase in spending will be $750 million. So in the four Budgets to 2008 the increase was $15 billion. In the next four Budgets it is $750 million. 
Hon Tau Henare 
: What decisions will the Government take in the Budget to ensure it continues to keep spending under control? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: The most important decisions will be those that are focused on getting better value for the considerable spending the Government already makes in the areas of law and order health and education. The next important decisions will be containing the amount of spending and as has been already discussed publicly there will be little net new Government spending in Budget 2012. 
Hon Tau Henare 
: How will the Government be able to deliver better results from public services while keeping firm control on its spending? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: Probably the most important thing is to understand how Government spending actually contributes to the outcomes that New Zealanders are expecting from Government action. So in the area of education we need a good understanding of how spending $13 billion in education does contribute to young New Zealanders achieving level 2 of National Certificate of Educational Achievement which is regarded as the entry-level qualification for any further skills or training or how our extensive spending on the police and courts and corrections contributes to reducing reoffending and therefore prisoner numbers at the same time as maintaining a safe community.
Auchinvole Chris: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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11. 
CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National) 
 to the  
Minister of Conservation 
: What are the likely benefits of the new tourism-conservation partnership with Air New Zealand? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON (Minister of Conservation) 
: 
 The Government recently signed a tourism-conservation partnership between the Department of Conservation and Air New Zealand. This partnership is worth $1 million a year for the next 3 years and represents a win-win for our flagship airline our tourism industry and conservation. It includes formalising the agreement to transport some of our most endangered species on Air New Zealand planes to breeding sites across the country. It will also help fund a range of new biodiversity and conservation programmes in national parks to preserve and protect native plants and wildlife along the Great Walks network. 
Chris Auchinvole 
: What other benefits will this partnership offer? 
Hon KATE WILKINSON 
: Heaps! It is not always acknowledged that the Department of Conservation is one of the largest tourism activity providers in New Zealand. Under this partnership Air New Zealand will use its global marketing network to help the Department of Conservation to promote the Great Walks in both the domestic and international tourism markets. More than 50000 people enjoy our Great Walks every year. These walks bring in around $3 million annually—money that is put back into conservation. Air New Zealand will also contribute through its 3000-strong Green Team who will volunteer their time for conservation initiatives. This partnership demonstrates that conservation can be good for business business can be good for conservation and we can work together to achieve shared goals and protect our native species. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: I move that Mr Auchinvole be allowed to ask another question so that he can truly justify the rubber stamp National gives backbenchers to ask— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! I could not hear what the member was seeking leave for. 
Rt Hon Winston Peters 
: I move that Mr Auchinvole be given a chance to ask another question so that he can truly justify the rubber stamp— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! The member was lucky I did not hear it the first time around. We do not waste the time of the House that way I say to the right honourable member.
Vote: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Immigration Amendment Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Mana 1. 
Bill read a first time.
Sabin Mike: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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9. 
MIKE SABIN (National—Northland) 
 to the  
Associate Minister for Social Development 
: What steps has the Government recently taken to combat welfare fraud? 
Hon CHESTER BORROWS (Associate Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 On Monday an Order in Council was signed expanding the range of information the Inland Revenue Department can send to the Ministry of Social Development and this will give the ministry a powerful new tool to make sure it has accurate information and that people on benefits are receiving their correct entitlement. It is another step forward in cracking down on welfare fraud. I want to acknowledge the Minister of Revenue the Hon Peter Dunne for his work in making this level of information sharing a reality. 
Mike Sabin 
: What would he say to a beneficiary who was concerned about the new information-sharing? 
Hon CHESTER BORROWS 
: That we are drawing a distinction between the vast majority of beneficiaries who are honest and upfront with the Ministry of Social Development and the small minority who think it is OK to rip off hard-working Kiwis. Honest beneficiaries have nothing to fear from these changes as it will only confirm information that the ministry already has. But fraud is fraud whether from an individual or from a taxpayer and those who rip the system off should come to us before we come and find them.
Ross Jami-Lee: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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5. 
JAMI-LEE ROSS (National—Botany) 
 to the  
Minister of Health 
: What decisions has the Government made in relation to providing better services at Counties Manukau District Health Board? 
Hon TONY RYALL (Minister of Health) 
: 
 I am pleased to announce that the Government has given Counties Manukau District Health Board the official go-ahead for the design phase of the new clinical services block at Middlemore Hospital. This clinical services block will include three new theatres as well as replacement of the existing 11 aged theatres a 40-bed assessment and planning unit and an 18-bed high-dependency unit. This whole project began under the National Government in 2009. The Government is contributing $100 million towards the $208 million total cost of the project which when completed will provide better health services for the people of one of the fastest-growing and most important parts of the country. 
Jami-Lee Ross 
: Can he tell the House what other improvements are being made to Middlemore Hospital as part of this development? 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: This $208 million redevelopment also includes the refurbishment of the Edmund Hillary Block with 31 extra beds and an addition of 33 beds and an upgrading of services in the adult medical centre for assessment treatment and rehabilitation in-patient wards. Over the last 3 years the Government has increased spending at the Counties Manukau District Health Board by over $180 million with 180 more doctors and over 300 more nurses. Despite the tight financial times the Government is providing better care for people in the Counties Manukau area.
Tolley Anne: Business Statement 
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Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Acting Leader of the House) 
: 
 When the House resumes on Tuesday 8 May the Government will look to progress a number of first readings on the Order Paper including the International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill and the Child Support Amendment Bill. Wednesday is a members’ day.
Tisch Lindsay: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Order! If a member has a point of order he should bring it up at the time that it is said not after the event.
Business Statement 
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Thursday 3 May 2012 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
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Business Statement 
Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Acting Leader of the House) 
: 
 When the House resumes on Tuesday 8 May the Government will look to progress a number of first readings on the Order Paper including the International Finance Agreements Amendment Bill and the Child Support Amendment Bill. Wednesday is a members’ day. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I thank the Acting Leader of the House for that indication. Does that mean that the Government has decided not to proceed with the bills in the name of Mr Banks next week? 
Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Acting Leader of the House) 
: 
 As advised to the Opposition parties when we put out the draft programme the Government always reserves the right to determine its own legislative priorities.
Sittings of the House 
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Sittings of the House 
MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 We have 30 seconds to go. In the interests of tidiness I seek leave for the House to rise at this point until the next sitting day. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for the House to rise at this point. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There appears not. Leave is granted.
Mallard Trevor: Business Statement 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I thank the Acting Leader of the House for that indication. Does that mean that the Government has decided not to proceed with the bills in the name of Mr Banks next week?
Cunliffe David: Immigration Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. As a former Minister of Immigration I take offence at several of the references in that speech. The first is to queue-jumping which does not apply—
Tolley Anne: Business Statement 
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Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Acting Leader of the House) 
: 
 As advised to the Opposition parties when we put out the draft programme the Government always reserves the right to determine its own legislative priorities.
Upston Louise: Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims (2012 Expiry and Application Dates) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupo) 
: 
 I am very proud to take the final call in this first reading debate of the Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims (2012 Expiry and Application Dates) Amendment Bill which was brought before the House by Minister Judith Collins. Members of this House and of my electorate will realise that I am a proud supporter of victims’ rights and I am very pleased to see that the Labour members are also supporting this bill in the first reading. It is an important bill for us to get this extension of the time frame from 1 July 2012 to July 2013. It has been well canvassed so I do not intend to speak any further other than to say that I am proud to support this bill.
Hipkins Chris: Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill — In Committee 
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CHRIS HIPKINS (Labour—Rimutaka) 
: 
 I am very happy to talk on the Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill which is designed to protect New Zealand industries or New Zealand enterprises from the damage that can be done by shonky imports. We know in the Labour Party what damage shonky imports can do to a New Zealand enterprise if it makes the wrong decision about importing something to replace something that is already here and it gets that wrong. It is a bit like the leadership of the ACT Party. If an enterprise makes the wrong import it can do enormous damage to the local industry that was already in place. And that is what the ACT Party has seen. This bill unfortunately will not provide any extra support for the ACT Party in the case of its shonky imports. The poor old ACT Party—it has happened to it twice. It made two bad import decisions: first with Don Brash and then with John Banks. 
Progress to be reported presently. 
House resumed. 
The Chairperson reported progress on the Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill and no progress on the Regulatory Reform Bill and the Airports (Cost Recovery for Processing of International Travellers) Bill. 
Report adopted.