Penk ChrisCHRIS PENK (National—Helensville): Thank you very much Mr Chair and thank you to my colleague the Hon Jacqui Dean. I hope not to disappoint her high hopes for me in this contribution; I certainly hope that I can live up to the excellent standard that she and others have set already in this debate. May I start by mentioning the work of the member in charge of the bill Mark Patterson. It's good to see you as a fellow member of the class of 2017 albeit across the House having an opportunity—a day in the sun so to speak—on this bill of no doubt considerable local importance. You'll be as aware as I am of that classic saying that all politics is local. Well not all bills are local not all Acts are local but you've got an opportunity here to do something positive for community and I commend you for taking that opportunity. I do have a couple of questions in relation to a couple of the clauses within Part 2 and I'll outline those as I go through what seemed to me the key points about those clauses. They relate to the plans and assessments so I draw your attention Mr Patterson to clause 8 Requirements for plans and assessments". I should prefix my comments by saying that I don't have serious criticism in relation to these; it's more a matter of seeking a bit of clarification if you're able to provide that so that it will be obvious to anyone examining the debates afterwards exactly what was intended. So at clause 8 then under the heading of "Requirements for plans and assessments" we see that "(1) The company must to the council's satisfaction" do various things that are set out (a) (b) (c) and (d). I'm wondering what it is that the member has in mind by way of the council's satisfaction being expressed? Would that be something that would need to be provided within a certain period of time? For example should it be provided in writing as a matter of course? Is it something perhaps that should take a particular form? I don't think that there is a particular format suggested by way of schedule to the bill but if I've missed something there then I'll be grateful to hear that.Then looking at each of those different requirements of the company as defined we see first of course that a transfer plan must be prepared that to be compliant with clause 9—I'll get to that if I may within my time a bit later. But also an analysis of the types of contractual arrangements that the company will need to enter into—and I think this is a positive feature of your bill Mr Patterson and those who have been involved in the relevant local body in putting it together—essentially to set out the sort of framework that's going to be needed to enable this transfer that is to take place and to be allowed to take place which is of course the whole point of the legislation in the first place. At clause 8(c) we see that the likely future in capital and operating costs of the company must be assessed. It doesn't actually say in so many words that a copy of that is to be provided to the council but I think we can probably infer from the fact that the council must be satisfied with these things that that would be the case that that would be required. If there's any comment you can provide on the question of the way that that assessment would be made that would be useful. Perhaps at a minimum you might care to confirm from your position in the chair—excuse me from that front desk—that workings and the basis for that assessment should be provided. I'll head now to the following clause 9 "Transfer plan" and just make a note about a couple of the ways that this is constructed. The first relates to the opening comment "The transfer plan must contain the following:" of course then it goes on to set out the things that must be within the transfer plan. I wonder Mr Patterson if you might consider if not formally amending by way of Supplementary Order Paper then at least clarifying for the record that a transfer plan could actually contain other items than this as well? So actually what's been set out is something that we might say is without limitation or using the phrase "including but not limited to" and so forth. Just to make it very clear that what's been set out is a minimum standard rather than something that is prescriptive in that other things are precluded by that. A "plan of the scheme" is the first one at paragraph (a). Paragraph (b) "a description of the land" and presumably you have in mind a legal description which would state the deposited plan number and the lot number typically rather than a more general description of the land or property. No doubt it's important to you and those who will be interacting with the bill to ensure that the right parcel of land is being referred to throughout."