Bayly AndrewANDREW BAYLY (National—Hunua): I thought that was a very thoughtful speech actually from that member Jo Luxton. And I think she would have actually—the member—would have received many emails as we have. I can't believe that the members from the Government side haven't been inundated in their email boxes. You must have. You must have been. Is that right Mr Henare? No none at all. Any from any of you guys—no emails at all?Hon Peeni Henare: Emails are old school.ANDREW BAYLY: Old school? OK. Well I think I'd be very surprised that you haven't had that contact because your electorates will be made up of many different types of people—some perceived to be wealthy as one of the members spoke about before or actually a lot of people who are renting. And of course we have a lot of renters in New Zealand. We have about 600000 homes that are rented in New Zealand—600000 homes. The vast majority of these—Mr Speaker I know you're very very attentive about this—are owned by very ordinary mums and dads who have chosen not to invest in the share market but have looked for a valid alternative investment which they can see they can manage and also is an investment they can understand. Those 600000 mums and dads in the main that own these types of rental properties are people like you and us—all of us. No different from anyone in Parliament. In fact—Hon Peeni Henare: Shall we check the pecuniary interests register?ANDREW BAYLY: Although we probably—so some of us will own lots of properties Mr Henare. But they are—in the main—good ordinary decent New Zealanders who've chosen to put their money into a house and to provide rental accommodation for people. What is so pernicious about this bill what is so assaulting about this bill is that it almost assumes that every landlord is going to be a bad landlord. I just think that's a fundamentally wrong premise to start with. We all know there are many good landlords—or everyone in this House knows that in the main landlords are good people. There are always examples of poor landlords as there are many examples of poor tenants.But this bill just cuts across that. What this does is make a basic premise which is that we need to protect all tenants and we are going to change the rules so that we are going to put the onus in the hands of the tenant. I think that is wrong I really do. The rules that keep working away through this bill about the 90-day clause—and many of the speakers have talked about this—is the requirement now for any landlord to prove what they're going to do. They have to prove that they're going to have put in a family member. They have to prove that they're going to upgrade the premises by either going to get a consent or paying money for getting professional people to do it. All of this is just restricting their ability to be flexible in the ordinary course of business—and it is a business for many—of providing a good high-quality standard of living for people.Hon Peeni Henare: I thought you said mum and dad investors?ANDREW BAYLY: And they are. It is a business for them. But many of us in this House and our party supported many measures to make sure that landlords are meeting the requirements and providing adequate standard of living for those tenants. We agree with that we have no problems with that. We insulated about 300000 under the John Key Government. I know that the Labour Government and the Greens also say they've done it—it doesn't matter; as a Parliament we all accept the premise that these houses should be brought up to a minimum standard but this bill goes beyond that. This cuts across into the rights of landlords. And it just imposes such restrictions on them that many of these people many of these landlords these mums and dads I speak about will have a choice and they will make a choice. They will stop renting their property.We've seen that already. We've seen all the anecdotes. We've seen all the emails. And that is going to be even worse for tenants—that over time will reduce the supply of these houses and that in time will push up the rental prices. The very thing that we do not want to achieve the very thing we do not want to achieve—and that's what this bill is going to do. It's going to drive up prices of rents over time. Because you're going to take the mums and dads out of this and they will take their money and do something worse—something different with it. And your people—that you talk about in this House the dispossessed—unfortunately will be even worse off. And no one wants that in Government. No one in Parliament wants that. But this will be the unintended consequence of this bill.