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Robertson H V Ross: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10176. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): I have not heard from the Greens. I am going to—[Interruption] No I am going to hear Catherine Delahunty.
Hutchison Paul: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHutchison Paul: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10176. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr PAUL HUTCHISON (National—Hunua): I moveThat the question be now put.
Auchinvole Chris: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeAuchinvole Chris: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10174. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10171. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): No I have ruled so there is nothing to add. So now is anyone seeking the call? Are you seeking the call Hon Ruth Dyson?Hon Ruth Dyson: Yes that is what I said.The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): OK we are on clause 3.
Lees-Galloway Iain: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLees-Galloway Iain: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10171. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Labour—Palmerston North): Speaking to that briefly Mr Chairperson—
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10171. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Thank you to the member for those points. The commencement date is the date that needs to be not an indeterminate date. What the amendment did was to have something where there was no certainty about when that date may be and that is why I quoted Speaker’s ruling 117/2: “An amendment to a commencement date must provide certainty”. It must provide certainty—[Interruption] Order! We are ruling on a matter here. In Standing Order 253/1 “A bill must include a distinct clause stating when the bill comes into force.”McGee which I mentioned and you mentioned as well states: “The bill must set out precisely when it is proposed to come into force.” So on that basis I have ruled and we have already voted on it. So that ends the matter.
Lees-Galloway Iain: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLees-Galloway Iain: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10171. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Labour—Palmerston North): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I just want to clarify something around your ruling about Ruth Dyson’s amendment to clause 2. You ruled it out of order—[Interruption]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): Order! There is a point of order on. I am trying to hear it.IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY: You ruled it out of order on the basis of Speaker’s ruling 117/2 which says “An amendment to a commencement date must provide certainty about when the Act is to come into force. An amendment that relies on an indeterminate event is not in order.” Thank you for directing me towardsParliamentary Practice in New Zealand by David McGee page 315.McGee points out that one of the times at which an indeterminate event is acceptable is when an Act may be brought into force by Order in Council “when there are considered to be good reasons for doing so.” An Order in Council is a somewhat indeterminate event. Parliament cannot be sure when an Order in Council would be brought into force. I submit to you that a Parliament would be more certain about when a select committee process would be completed the time frame for a select committee is clearly laid out in the Standing Orders and the reasons for taking the bill to a select committee were clearly presented by members of the Opposition. So the case was made and the time frame is very clear. I submit to you that taking a bill to select committee is not an indeterminate event at all. In fact it is a very clearly time-bound event that is laid out in the Standing Orders and I would seek some clarification on your ruling.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10169. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): We first have Ruth Dyson’s typescript amendment to clause 2. This amendment is out of order as the amendment would make commencement reliant on an indeterminate event. This is Speaker’s ruling 117/2 if members wish to see what it says there.
Hutchison Paul: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHutchison Paul: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10202. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr PAUL HUTCHISON (National—Hunua): Thank you for giving me the opportunity and privilege to speak on this New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2). I too want to acknowledge all those family carers around New Zealand who for years have given themselves so selflessly for others.Despite Opposition members saying that they did not want to talk politics they have done directly the opposite over the last few hours and I think that is a great shame. Fairly and squarely the Human Rights Commission made its ruling back in 2001 and in times of plenty the Labour-Greens coalition had plenty of time if those members had wanted to if they had really wanted to—even though there was a court process going on—to come to an earlier solution. But they explicitly failed to in 2005 and they explicitly failed to in 2008.Targeting high and very high needs people was supported by 68 percent of all submitters and 71 percent of family carers. This was a thorough consultation process. Changing the policy to pay all groups of family carers rather than carers of high and very high needs people would result in unmanageable spiralling costs and I believe that the thoughtful contribution from the Attorney-General indeed explained that and explained that the courts often do not take into account the fiscal constraints of the time which is absolutely what Labour and the Greens so flagrantly forget about.This policy adds an extra $94 million over 4 years on top of the $100 million extra the Government is spending on disability support. This is a fair solution to a challenging and complex issue and it makes New Zealand the third country in the world—no other countries have done this before—to achieve payments in such a way.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10169. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes55New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 13; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Motion agreed to.
Robertson Grant: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson Grant: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10197. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]GRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Leader—Labour): I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I wanted to raise a point of order just before we leave the Committee ofthe whole House to seek your guidance as we go on to the next couple of pieces of legislation that will come before the Committee under the urgency motion which are similar to this bill. They are pieces of legislation that will not be going to a select committee. They are bills that were provided to Opposition parties only moments before the urgency motion in one case and after the urgency motion in the other case. I want to seek your guidance on the approach that Chairs of the Committee of the whole House will take when there is legislation of that nature. Is that something that is taken into account by a Chair in terms of the length of time spent on particular parts? Is it something that the Chair will recognise?
Sabin Mike: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSabin Mike: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10268. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MIKE SABIN (National—Northland): I moveThat the question be now put.
Tisch Lindsay: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10161. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch): We now come to clause 2 the commencement clause. This is a very narrow debate.
Carter David: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10202. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member’s time has expired.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10197. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes54New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Ruth Dyson to clause 4 be agreed to:delete new section 70E.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10197. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes54New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Ruth Dyson to clause 4 be agreed to:delete new section 70G(4)(b).
McKelvie Ian: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMcKelvie Ian: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10211. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]IAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei): It is a shame the member Iain Lees-Galloway did not watchOne News. It gives me great pleasure to speak for—[Interruption] Yes that is quite understandable. It gives me great pleasure to speak on the third reading of the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2). I hope everyone listened to Minister Ryall’s speech at the commencement of the third reading. It covered the intent of this bill perfectly.I have listened with sadness to the criticism of this bill and the attack on the motives of the Government and I can hold my head high knowing that this will make a difference and that this groundbreaking bill will lead eventually to a new environment for disabled people and their loyal caring families. Those who live with and who work with and for the disabled know that this is progress. I look forward to this bill becoming law shortly.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10161. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes56New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10155. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Shall I toss a coin? I think I will go for seniority. I call the Hon Maryan Street.
Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10239. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National): The bill the Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill which we are debating tonight is because of some of the omissions that were made in the transitional provisions of the CrownMinerals Amendment Act. This bill is another bill that is in line with National’s Business Growth Agenda. This will provide opportunities for New Zealanders and we want to ensure that permit holders are confident that what they are doing is backed by the Government. We are in the early stages of development of our oil and gas natural resources and I hope that this bill will ensure that confidence to the permit holders. I commend this bill.
Auchinvole Chris: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeAuchinvole Chris: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10269. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Robertson H V Ross: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10148. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Just before I call the next member just so that we are clear about the parameters in the debate this is a debate on clause 1 and it is a wide-ranging debate on clause 1. The reason for that is the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) has not been considered by a select committee. However when we come to clauses 2 3 and 4 these will be narrow debates and I refer members who are going to speak to Speaker’s ruling 114/7. All of those who are going to be speaking please have a look at Speaker’s ruling 114/7. So it is a wide-ranging debate.
Hutchison Paul: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHutchison Paul: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10147. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr PAUL HUTCHISON (National—Hunua): It is a pleasure to speak on the major part of this bill the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2). I note that in new Part 4A “Family care policies” inserted by clause 4 new section 70A “Purpose of this Part” says quite clearly: “The purpose of this Part is to keep the funding of support services provided by persons to their family members within sustainable limits in order to give effect to the restraint imposed by section 3(2) ...”.I think it is very very important to emphasise that this policy does indeed give disabled people the choice of whether to employ a family carer or a contracted provider. And as I pointed out in the second reading of this bill the packages to carers of those who used to be held in institutions are really very realistic. They will come to over $100000 in certain circumstances. Traditionally as we have all debated during the last two readings for 20 years no family members have been paid—no family members have been paid. But this bill enables that choice of payment to those who indeed have very high needs. This will open up payments to something like 1600 families who have in the past not had that benefit.Certainly targeting high and very high needs people was supported by 68 percent of all submitters and 71 percent of family carers in response to the consultation document that was put out by the Government in 2012 and I believe that there were something like over 600 replies to that. There were 273 submitters and there were 12 discussions around the traps in New Zealand. Again it is important to point out that changing the policy to pay all groups of family carers rather than only carers of those with high and very high needs would result in spiralling and unmanageable costs of as much as $175 million a year. We do of course have that difficulty—where are the grey zones? But when we hear the rhetoric of both Labour and the Greens—the Greens which would print money and Labour which has refused to pay anything at all even though it has known since 2001 that this was an issue—it is indeed of great concern.This policy adds to the extra $100 million that the Government is spending on disability support services over the next 4 years. The total investment in disability now reaches something like $1.1 billion. This is a realistic compassionate fair solution to an issue that has gone on for a long period of time. And as one of the disability spokespersons said this morning the sector will be very relieved that at last a solution has been offered by the National Government.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10147. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) be now read a second time.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes55New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 13; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a second time.
Simpson Scott: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10142. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): It is a pleasure to speak in support of the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) in its second reading. I just want to acknowledge the work of the previous speaker Catherine Delahunty in terms of her support for Cliff Robinson and his family. Cliff Robinson and his two children are constituents of mine in the Coromandel electorate and it is fair to say that Catherine Delahunty has been a staunch advocate on their behalf and I thank her for that.This is a good bill. It is an important bill. Today is a day of pride for the National Party and the National-led Government but it is a day of shame for the Labour Party and its former health Ministers and their teams during the 9 long years of the previous Labour Government. Really as we get through this second reading debate there is really just one question that should probably be asked and answered: was it the Hon Ruth Dyson who during her term as the Associate Minister of Health in those years of Helen Clark’s administration pushed for a carers’ package and was it actually theformer Minister of Health Annette King who pushed back and opposed it? I support this bill.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10196. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes54New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Ruth Dyson to clause 4 be agreed to:replace new section 70E(3)(a) with “(a) was made after the day after the date on which this Act receives Royal assent; and”.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10169. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat clause 2 be agreed to.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes55New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 13; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Clause 2 agreed to.
Yang Jian: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeYang Jian: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10256. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr JIAN YANG (National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10161. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes56New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Ruth Dyson to clause 1 be agreed to:replace clause 1 with the following new clause:1TitleThis Act is the New Zealand Public Health and Disability (Lower Pay and Removal of Human Rights) Amendment Act 2013.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10195. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes54New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Ruth Dyson to clause 4 be agreed to:insert in new section 70D after subclause (2):“(2A)The Crown or DHB may not change cancel or replace an existing family care policy without first consulting the other affected parties.”
Vote: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10259. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Part 1 be agreed to.Ayes68New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes48New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 11; Māori Party 2; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Part 1 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10133. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) be now read a first time.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes55New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 13; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a first time.
McKelvie Ian: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMcKelvie Ian: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10132. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]IAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitīkei): I shall be brief Mr Assistant Speaker seeing as you did not want me to speak at all. It is great to stand in this House and support a piece of legislation the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) brought to us by Minister Ryall. It is a bill that will make a very real difference to those amazing mothers or fathers—despite Jan Logie’s assertion—or family members who have worked so hard to make their disabled son daughter or family member’s life more bearable.I have to just counter very briefly a couple of comments made by the Opposition. The Hon Ruth Dyson was misleading the House when she said that current caregivers may well lose current benefits. That is absolutely patently nonsense. The bill will also be a great relief to many rural family members who are isolated and find it very difficult to get alternative care. I also want to comment very quickly on the somewhat gratuitous comments from the other side of the House that scarcely touched on the issues of the bill at all—in fact the bill got stuck firmly under Labour’s shadow version of this year’s Budget. It was blanked out—the most part of that blank of course.I also want to touch very quickly on the Greens’ comments because I think they clearly think they have a mortgage on knowledge of this sector of our community which is far from the truth. And as for Barbara Stewart’s contribution at least she spoke with compassion although she ruined that compassion by opposing the disability sector and opposing it receiving a very good start and I guess a new start really with some contribution to what is a very difficult life for so many people. This initiative will be welcomed by the disability sector and the people who face challenges in life that most of us cannot imagine. I have great pleasure in supporting this bill as it progresses through Parliament. Thank you.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10197. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes54New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10132. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): The question is—Ian McKelvie: Mr Speaker—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): I call the honourable member Ian McKelvie.
Vote: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10273. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes52New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 11; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Moana Mackey to clause 14 be agreed to:replace this clause with the following clause:14Section 55 amended (New sections 101A to 101C inserted)In section 55 new section 101A replace the definition ofoffshore area with:“offshore area means any area that is within the territorial sea”.
Yang Jian: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeYang Jian: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10129. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr JIAN YANG (National): Ni hao Mr Assistant Speaker. Thank you for the opportunity to speak in today’s debate on the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2). According to this bill disabled adults aged 18 years and over who are assessed as having high or very high needs based on a number of criteria will be able to employ their parent or other family member except for their spouse or partner to provide up to 40 hours of support per week. The disabled person will be assessed by a needs assessment and service coordination centre for eligibility. That person if eligible can then choose a family carer or a contracted service provider. Ifthey choose a family carer they will receive funding to pay their family carer an hourly rate as an employee.The core issue of this matter is to find a balance between the responsibilities of the Government and of families. It has always been challenging to find the balance. It is a challenge not only to the New Zealand Government but also to Governments all over the world. The current National-led Government is now facing up to the challenge and it is doing extremely well. So I would like to congratulate the Minister of Health the Hon Tony Ryall on this achievement. We recognise the important role of families in providing care and support to their disabled family members. It is estimated that the paid family carer policy will cost about $23 million per year. This is a significant investment in family care. It gives disabled people and their families more choice and control in the support they receive. The National-led Government is currently providing much support for disabled people and their family carers. This bill is another step towards providing better services to disabled people. I commend the bill to the House. Thank you.
Auchinvole Chris: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeAuchinvole Chris: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10168. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS AUCHINVOLE (National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Robertson H V Ross: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10259. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): I call our spokesperson. I call the honourable member Moana Mackey.Hon Simon Bridges: I thought you were impartial!The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): I am supposed to be. I had better explain myself!
Simpson Scott: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10127. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): What a pleasure it is as a member of the National Party—a proud member—to stand in support of this New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) introduced by the very capable Minister of Health the Hon Tony Ryall. This bill comes to the House after years of prevarication of blocking of putting everything it could in the way of it by the Labour Party during its 9 long years in Government. When it had surpluses for Africa and plenty of money it chose to do nothing about it—years of “obstification” obstruction and blocking by the Labour Party. So this is a major breakthrough.Hon Maurice Williamson: Ha ha!SCOTT SIMPSON: Yes it is one of those Maurice Williamson words. It is one of those Maurice Williamson words on a Friday morning. This is a major breakthrough and one that society and all of New Zealand I think will take pleasure that something is finally being done.In 2001 Susan Atkinson and others including Cliff Robinson from my electorate of Coromandel were part of a group who brought an action into the courts. It has taken years and years to finally put it right. Who was the Minister of Health back then? Well it was none other than the Minister Annette King from the Labour Party. It was she who blocked and fought. It was she who instructed Ministry of Health officials—instructed the lawyers to block it and fight it. She told the ministry to fight it all the way. That former Labour Party health Minister should hang her head in absolute shame. We do not need her to lecture us when back in 2005 she expressly opposed theAtkinson action. She expressly opposed it. That member actually instructed the ministry lawyers to block it on every count. She went further—she went further. The Cabinet minute seems to indicate in fact that she instructed that there should be no consultation—no consultation. Under her watch Labour and the health Minister under Labour when they had taxpayer money that they could have done something about it did nothing about it.This is a proud day for the National Party. The Minister Tony Ryall is doing a very good job. He is introducing this legislation not a minute too soon. I support it. I commend it to the House. Thank you.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10161. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat clause 1 be agreed to.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes56New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Clause 1 agreed to.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10196. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes54New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 12; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Ruth Dyson to clause 4 be agreed to:add the following new section 70E(8): “For the purposes of clarity nothing in this Act prevents a person from making a personal grievance under the Employment Relations Act 2000 for a breach of the Human Rights Act 1993 or New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.”
Ardern Shane: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeArdern Shane: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10125. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SHANE ARDERN (National—Taranaki - King Country): It is a pleasure to rise and speak on the New Zealand Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) at this stage. I want to congratulate the Hon Tony Ryall who clearly is one of the best health Ministers the country has ever seen. And the more that our opponents on the other side bay about that the sillier they look actually because competence shows through. I just want to congratulate him on finally getting to the point where compassion is being shown for these people.I want to raise a couple of points that were debated earlier by the Hon Annette King about some of the process if you like. Can we just go back a little bit in time and look at who the health Minister was at the time that the Human Rights Commission court appeal was first promoted or first suggested. Who was the Minister?Hon Annette King: Not me.SHANE ARDERN: Look I understand that the honourable member herself was the health Minister at that time. What did she instruct the ministry to do? What did she instruct the ministry to do? She instructed the ministry to fight this in the court: “Do not allow this to proceed. Fight this tooth and nail. Do not allow it to progress”. She also suggested—and I understand there is a Cabinet minute to back this up—“Do not consult with the public or even with the rest of the rest of the Parliament. Do not consult with anyone. In fact make sure that this is kept below the radar.” How does that square with what she just said earlier on about the process that is happening right now? How doesthat square with that? You know there is a word—I understand that if you use it against a member it is unparliamentary but if you use it against a situation it is not.This Government is now proposing to inject $92 million over 4 years into helping these unfortunate families. We all have personal cases. To listen to Catherine Delahunty you would think she is the only one in this Parliament who has ever encountered one of these unfortunate people. Actually within my own family very close to us we have an affected person or persons so very much we understand individually as constituent MPs the circumstances that some of these families find themselves in. I would suggest to that member that she does not have a franchise on compassion in this regard.This is an excellent move on the part of the Government. This is an excellent piece of legislation and I look forward to its passage through the House.
Vote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10213. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) be now read a third time.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes55New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 13; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a third time.
Vote: Social Housing Reform (Housing Restructuring and Tenancy Matters Amendment) Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Social Housing Reform (Housing Restructuring and Tenancy Matters Amendment) Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10115. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the Social Housing Reform (Housing Restructuring and Tenancy Matters Amendment) Bill be now read a first time.Ayes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Noes56New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Bill read a first time.Billreferred to the Social Services Committee.
Upston Louise: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeUpston Louise: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10159. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]LOUISE UPSTON (Senior Whip—National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Tisch Lindsay: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10227. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): This is a split call. I call the Hon Ruth Dyson.
Vote: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Crown Minerals Amendment Act 2013 Amendment Bill — First Reading Second Reading In Committee[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10273. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes52New Zealand Labour 32; Green Party 11; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Noes63New Zealand National 59; Māori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.Amendment not agreed to.
Simpson Scott: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: New Zealand Public Health and Disability Amendment Bill (No 2) — First Reading Second Reading In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 16 May 2013. Volume:690;Page:10160. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): I moveThat the question be now put.