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Sharples Pita: Ministerial Statements — Earthquake—Christchurch 
Sharples Pita: Ministerial Statements — Earthquake—Christchurch 
[Volume:670;Page:16939] 
Hon Dr PITA SHARPLES (Co-Leader—Maori Party) 
: 
 The Maori Party stands with all parties of this House to convey our best wishes and hopes for the people of Otautahi—Canterbury. We know they have a very strong fighting spirit. They are going to need it this time because the earthquake happened at a busy time midday and we know that it was quite severe in terms of damage to buildings and cars on the road liquefaction and all the things that have happened this time. 
Our hope is that everyone will contact their families and their relatives down there to make sure they are OK to manaaki each other and to look after the children who must be really fearful having experienced earthquakes before. This is the biggest daytime one for them to experience. Tragedies bring people together and I hope this sad tragedy makes New Zealand think very carefully about how lucky we are in this country to have good fortune a high standard of living and the relationships between people that we enjoy day by day so that we can unite in this way with one thought and that is for the people of Otautahi. 
Na reira koutou ma tenei matou e mihi atu ki a koutou. Ko te tumanako kia manaaki koutou i a koutou. Kimihia o koutou whanau o koutou hoa me te manaaki tiaki hoki i a ratou i roto i tenei wa pouri. Na reira ma te Atua koutou e manaaki e tiaki kia mutu ai tenei ahuatanga. Nga mihi ki a koutou tena koutou. 
[ 
So our thoughts are with you. We hope that you look after each other. Seek out your families and friends; comfort and shelter them in this moment of darkness. May God protect and watch over you so this tragedy has an ending. Our sympathies and thoughts are with you 
.] 
Thank you.
Chadwick Steve: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Chadwick Steve: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16934] 
Hon STEVE CHADWICK (Junior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. On this part which is quite substantial we have had only four calls. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I have not made a determination.
Smith Lockwood: Visitors — United States of America—Congressional Delegation Norway—Standing Committee on Transport and Communications 
Smith Lockwood: Visitors — United States of America—Congressional Delegation Norway—Standing Committee on Transport and Communications 
[Volume:670;Page:16937] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: It is my pleasure to inform the House that the United States Congressional Delegation led by representative Donald Manzullo is present in the gallery. I am sure members would wish that the delegation be welcomed.
Davis Kelvin: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Davis Kelvin: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16931] 
KELVIN DAVIS (Labour) 
: 
 I have a few questions for the Minister in the chair the Hon Chris Finlayson around clause 7. We have heard just now from the Hon Maryan Street how Whanganui iwi are getting the land back as well as the assets—that is the rentals. My question though is what happens to the trees on that land and who is liable if they are harvested? Does the iwi then have to replant those trees? Do they have any liabilities under the emissions trading scheme? I bring this up because Ngati Hine—the iwi up north around the Bay of Islands area—were convinced to plant pine trees 35 years ago in quite a significant area of land. Harvesting has since begun and now the iwi has a real concern that because the forest will not be replanted by the owners of the trees the liability to replant falls on them because the forests were planted I think before 1991. They have real concerns that the liability for replanting the trees falls on them since the company will not replant. That is my question for the Minister around clause 7. What are the liabilities if any for Whanganui iwi if the forest is harvested? Who is meant to replant; and if replanting is not going to happen does the liability fall on the Whanganui iwi? I look forward to hearing the Minister’s response to those questions. Kia ora.
Goodhew Jo: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Goodhew Jo: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16933] 
JO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Henare Tau: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Henare Tau: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16927] 
Hon TAU HENARE (National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Graham Kennedy: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
Graham Kennedy: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:670;Page:16915] 
Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green) 
: 
 It is enough I think to say that the Green Party will support the Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill through its first reading. 
My modest contribution to the debate will be confined to an acknowledgment that I have not delved deeply into the Cornish Companies Management Act Repeal Act 1994 nor have I actually delved into any of the 31 Acts this bill repeals such as the Economic Stabilisation Act Repeal Act 1987 which of course had far more historical significant once upon a time. The New Zealand Planning Council Dissolution Act 1991 causes me grief since I worked for the Planning Council only 7 years before that and there is no telling what might have happened if the Act had been passed earlier. 
I do not intend to spend time rhapsodising about the New Zealand economy for or against Government policy at this moment. I would rather not take up more of the House’s time. I reiterate that we will support the Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill.
Goodhew Jo: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Goodhew Jo: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16923] 
JO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Calvert Hilary Jane: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
Calvert Hilary Jane: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:670;Page:16915] 
HILARY CALVERT (ACT) 
: 
 I am just a new member here but I am pleased today to be able to help out the Hon David Parker and the Hon Lianne Dalziel with something that apparently I know and they do not. The reason that the Regulatory Reform Bill debated earlier in the week was not tied up with this bill is simple: omnibus bills must have a shared purpose. The Regulatory Reform Bill’s aim was to reduce compliance costs for business; the Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill does not do that so it has to be a separate bill. 
I find it extraordinary that Lianne Dalziel felt the need to go on for her full 10 minutes—on and on—about something she said mattered absolutely not at all. I will not fall into making that mistake. I commend this bill to the House.
Katene Rahui: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
Katene Rahui: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:670;Page:16915] 
RAHUI KATENE (Maori Party—Te Tai Tonga) 
: 
 I was not going to take a call on the Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill but in order to prevent speakers from the Labour Party dragging on and on about a bill that we should be able to deal with in 5 minutes I have taken this opportunity to say that we support this bill.
Delahunty Catherine: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Delahunty Catherine: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16921] 
CATHERINE DELAHUNTY (Green) 
: 
 Kia ora Mr Chair te Whare Paremata. He mihi nui ki te tangata whenua o nga hapu me te iwi o Whanganui. The Green Party recognises the complexity of the Treaty settlement process and we support the Whanganui (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill. But we recognise the huge and ongoing consequences of colonisation and we are very well aware that with bills like this one iwi and hapu are forced into a form of legal warfare with the Crown and with each other sometimes with very heavy burdens being placed on the people concerned. We recognise that iwi and hapu must bring settlement claims in order to create the resources for the future and for their mokopuna but it is at high cost. 
We also feel that no matter how many Treaty settlement processes are passed through this House—all of which we have supported—the deeper challenge is to make sure that Pakeha and tauiwi katoa have a deeper understanding of the history and current privileges we enjoy so that both cultures approach the Treaty settlement process with the respect with which tangata whenua approach it. Both cultures recognise the burden that is placed on the shoulders of a culture that would like to see us address the inherent racism in and the limitations of Treaty settlement deadlines and the raupatu issues associated with the foreshore and seabed—the takutai moana. 
We support the bill in the context of a flawed process and a struggle by hapu and iwi of Whanganui for basic justice for many many years. As a non-expert on the detail of the bill at the preamble stage I simply get up to say that we support the hapu and iwi of Whanganui in their struggle for justice and in their difficulties in a Crown-defined process which sometimes virtually entirely limits their ability to use their cultural mechanisms to sort out any differences in the way they traditionally would. We control the shots and often the people pay the price. That situation has been so since the coming of the Pakeha. 
I say kia kaha to the people of Whanganui. I support the bill. Kia ora.
Adams Amy: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
Adams Amy: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:670;Page:16915] 
AMY ADAMS (National—Selwyn) 
: 
 Like the three speakers who have spoken immediately before me I do not want to spend a long time on what is a very simple bill the Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill. I have said everything I wanted to say about the importance of getting the regulatory environment right to move the country ahead in my contribution earlier this week on the Regulatory Reform Bill. 
The Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill is not a significant bill. It is not a world-changing bill but none the less it needs to be passed. I think the fact that some of the legislation now being repealed includes legislation like the District Railways Purchasing Act from 1885 and the New Zealand Institute of Journalists Act 1895 is testament in itself as to how long overdue this exercise is. It is not just about making sure we do not create too much new regulation and that when we do it is right; it is also about making sure that when a regulation is no longer required we get rid of it tidy things up and get it off the books. That is what this bill is all about. 
I am very pleased to see in the words of  
Mission Impossible 
 that the bill itself will self-destruct 28 days after its passing to make sure it does not commit the same folly as the bills we are now having to deal with of remaining on the statute book long after its time. With that comment I am pleased to commend the bill to the House.
Street Maryan: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Street Maryan: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16920] 
Hon MARYAN STREET (Labour) 
: 
 It gives me some pleasure to speak again in the course of the progress of the Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill.  
The preamble simply relates the history of the fact that this legislation dates to the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi in 1840. When we come to debate on Part 1 I will take more time to discuss some of the particular provisions. The background to this deed of on-account settlement of the historical claims of Whanganui iwi is outlined in this bill. That is what the preamble refers to.  
It goes on to talk about the fact that the agreement as expressed in the bill has been the result of negotiations between the Crown and the Southern Whanganui Cluster / Tupoho working group to enter into an agreement in relation to parts of the Whanganui Forest and the Kaitoke Prison. The preamble also outlines the fact that the North Island part of the Ngati Apa iwi consulted with neighbouring iwi and then proceeded with the Crown and the working group to sign the deed that this legislation gives voice to.  
The preamble simply summarises the effect of the provisions that follow. I would prefer to use more of my speaking time in discussing Parts 1 and 2 as we get to them. Thank you.
Goodhew Jo: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
Goodhew Jo: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:670;Page:16920] 
JO GOODHEW (National—Rangitata) 
: 
 My intention this afternoon is to speak very briefly on the Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill. I say to the Opposition members that had they looked at the explanatory note of this bill they would have seen that this is a timely and cost-effective method of collectively repealing spent Acts. Yet each member of the Opposition team managed to talk for 10 minutes about nothing of interest to this House or to the public of New Zealand wasting this House’s time. 
This Government is getting on with business. This bill is nothing more than getting on with business and therefore I commend it to the House. 
Bill read a first time.  
Bill referred to the Commerce Committee.
Carter David: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Carter David: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16930] 
Hon DAVID CARTER (Minister of Agriculture) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
. 
Motion agreed to. 
Part 1 agreed to.
Vote: Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Vote: Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:670;Page:16907] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill be now read a first time. 
Ayes 76 
New Zealand National 57; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 39 
New Zealand Labour 38; Progressive 1. 
Bill read a first time.
Goudie Sandra: Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Goudie Sandra: Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:670;Page:16907] 
SANDRA GOUDIE (National—Coromandel) 
: 
 I applaud the Hon Maurice Williamson for bringing the Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill to the House. This is a win-win opportunity. The simple truth is that Opposition members are fiscally incompetent and do not understand that people can be rated or rented off the properties that they occupy. Here is an opportunity to keep people on the land looking after the land being productive and providing conservation and stewardship of that land in a win-win situation and Opposition members do not want it. That is why there was such a mess under Labour. National will make a difference and make sure that that situation is a win-win and an improvement for all New Zealanders.
Foss Craig: Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Foss Craig: Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:670;Page:16904] 
CRAIG FOSS (National—Tukituki) 
: 
 The Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill is a continuation of how this Government is providing certainty fairness and equity for all things related to New Zealand. This Government is committed to fairer more equitable high country rents. It acknowledges and many across this country acknowledge that the current system is unworkable. It is inequitable and it was more about some political philosophy rather than the economic realities that high country farmers in the South Island face. 
This bill is a new approach; we acknowledge that. But it brings fairness and equity. I also note that it was a key element of National’s pre-election agricultural policy which was endorsed along with many other fine National policies just 2 years ago. I commend the bill to the House.
Curran Clare: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Curran Clare: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:16903] 
5. 
CLARE CURRAN (Labour—Dunedin South) 
 to the  
Chairperson of the Finance and Expenditure Committee 
: When do submissions close on the Telecommunications (TSO Broadband and Other Matters) Amendment Bill? 
CRAIG FOSS (Chairperson of the Finance and Expenditure Committee) 
:  
Submissions close on 25 February 2011. 
Clare Curran 
: Is it the intention of the committee to extend— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The chair is not answerable for what the intention of the committee might be.
Curran Clare: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Curran Clare: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:16903] 
4. 
CLARE CURRAN (Labour—Dunedin South) 
 to the  
Chairperson of the Finance and Expenditure Committee 
: How many submissions have been received to date on the Telecommunications (TSO Broadband and Other Matters) Amendment Bill? 
CRAIG FOSS (Chairperson of the Finance and Expenditure Committee) 
: 
 Two submissions. 
Clare Curran 
: Has the committee considered extending the closing date— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: The chair is not answerable for what the committee might have decided.
Williamson Maurice: Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
Williamson Maurice: Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Volume:670;Page:16908] 
Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (Minister for Land Information) 
: 
 I move  
That the Primary Production Committeeconsider the Crown Pastoral Land (Rent for Pastoral Leases) Amendment Bill 
that the committee report finally to the House on or before 5 July 2011 and that the committee have authority to meet at any time while the House is sitting (except during oral questions) and during any evening on a day on which there has been a sitting of the House and on a Friday in a week in which there has been a sitting of the House and outside the Wellington area despite Standing Orders 187 189(a) and 190(1)(b) and (c). 
Motion agreed to.
Young Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Young Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:16893] 
5. 
JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
 to the  
Minister of Energy and Resources 
: How many houses have been retrofitted under the Government’s Warm Up New Zealand: Heat Smart home insulation scheme? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Minister Energy and Resources) 
: 
 I am very pleased to advise the House that since July 2009 just under 89000 houses around New Zealand have been retrofitted under the scheme. Nearly 50000 houses occupied by people on low incomes will have been retrofitted. The insulation and clean heating programme will go a long way to improving the quality of their lives. 
Jonathan Young 
: What is the effect on employment of the Warm Up New Zealand scheme? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: The Warm Up New Zealand scheme has had a positive effect on employment during some tough economic times. Officials estimate that about 2000 jobs will be created as a result of the scheme. 
Rahui Katene 
: What provision has been made for Maori families to take up eligibility for the home insulation scheme and how many of the houses are owned or occupied by Maori families? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: Maori families are eligible like all other New Zealanders to access the scheme and a great many have done so. The Energy Efficiency and Conservation Authority also has a number of special projects that aim to deliver to Maori households including agreements with Nga Rauru Waikato-Tainui and Whanau-a-Apanui.
McClay Todd: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
McClay Todd: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:16891] 
3. 
KATRINA SHANKS (National) 
 on behalf of  
TODD McCLAY (National—Rotorua) 
 to the  
Minister of Housing 
: What were the results of the $124.5 million that the Government invested in State housing in February 2009 as part of its jobs and growth stimulus package? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY (Minister of Housing) 
: 
 The package was to upgrade 10000 existing State houses and build 69 new State houses over and above those already planned. Housing New Zealand Corporation exceeded both these targets by upgrading 11290 State houses and building 87 over and above those planned. That is 11000 State houses and families who would otherwise live in cold old and mouldy houses that the previous Government left. 
Katrina Shanks 
: What jobs have been created as a result of the Government’s additional investment in State housing? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: This programme ensured that nationally the maximum number of contractors gained work. At its peak 52 contracting firms were involved in the delivery of this programme. On average an additional 1528 people were employed each month around the country to deliver warmer healthier more liveable homes for State housing tenants. 
Moana Mackey 
: Is he seriously saying that his 1-year “stimulus package” was adequate to address the current shortage of social housing with a waiting list of nearly 11000 people let alone a national housing shortage of 70000 dwellings; and does he still stand by his decision to slash the budget for State house acquisitions and maintenance by more than 80 percent in Budget 2010? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: No I am saying that 11290 people now live in nice warm homes. When we came into Government they were living in old cold and mouldy homes. I do not know why the Labour Government did not just pitch tents for them. 
Moana Mackey 
: Has he seen any reports linking the current pressures in social housing to the actions of his party when last in Government which hocked off 13000 State houses to its development mates and carried out no modernisation; if so instead of lecturing Labour which spent 9 years trying to undo the damage maybe he should just apologise get off his chuff and do something about the ever-worsening housing crisis which has got far far worse under his watch? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: No.
Blue Jackie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Blue Jackie: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
[Volume:670;Page:16889] 
1. 
Dr JACKIE BLUE (National) 
 to the  
Minister of Transport 
: What progress has been made on the Government’s jobs and growth stimulus package for transport? 
Hon NATHAN GUY (Associate Minister of Transport) 
 on behalf of the  
Minister of Transport 
: The Minister of Transport was in Rotorua this morning for the opening of the Fairy Springs upgrade which is one of the many projects that have been advanced under the jobs and growth plan. The $322 million investment in roading projects around the country has provided 550 jobs and has supported a further 1200 jobs in associated trades. This investment has given a real boost to the regions by utilising regional workforces and local contractors. The jobs and growth plan provides a short-term stimulus but the real value is the construction of projects that will support prolonged growth when completed. 
Dr Jackie Blue 
: How many more jobs have been created by the Government’s roads of national significance? 
Hon NATHAN GUY 
: The 550 jobs I mentioned in the primary answer are over and above those of the more than 1500 people working on the Government’s roads of national significance and the many thousands working on the overall road-building programme. These jobs would not exist if the previous Government had had its way and scaled back the roading programme. This investment in infrastructure will improve key roading corridors and will reduce bottlenecks to growth as the economy picks up.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
[Volume:670;Page:16889] 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I know that my colleagues are always concerned about my progress and so far they are very satisfied. The issue of urgency is always one that we are prepared to talk to the Opposition about should it decide to work more than 17 hours a week. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: That was 2 extra hours; keep going. 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: My comment was slightly gratuitous I agree and not consistent with the Speaker’s demands of appropriate behaviour in the House. I can say there is no intention to have urgency in the House next week.
Mallard Trevor: Business Statement 
Mallard Trevor: Business Statement 
[Volume:670;Page:16889] 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I seek the assurance of the Leader of the House that there will not be urgency next week and ask him whether his colleagues have noticed that he makes much more progress when he does not use urgency.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
[Volume:670;Page:16889] 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Next week the House will consider a range of Government bills on the Order Paper including the Courts and Criminal Matters Bill and the Legal Services Bill.
Carter David: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Carter David: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16934] 
Hon DAVID CARTER (Minister of Agriculture) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Vote: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16935] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 75 
New Zealand National 57; Green Party 8; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 38 
New Zealand Labour 37; Progressive 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
Part 2 agreed to.
Business Statement 
Business Statement 
[Volume:670;Page:16889] 
Thursday 17 February 2011 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
. 
Business Statement 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Next week the House will consider a range of Government bills on the Order Paper including the Courts and Criminal Matters Bill and the Legal Services Bill. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I seek the assurance of the Leader of the House that there will not be urgency next week and ask him whether his colleagues have noticed that he makes much more progress when he does not use urgency. 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 I know that my colleagues are always concerned about my progress and so far they are very satisfied. The issue of urgency is always one that we are prepared to talk to the Opposition about should it decide to work more than 17 hours a week. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: That was 2 extra hours; keep going. 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE 
: My comment was slightly gratuitous I agree and not consistent with the Speaker’s demands of appropriate behaviour in the House. I can say there is no intention to have urgency in the House next week.
Goodhew Jo: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Goodhew Jo: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16929] 
JO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Lees-Galloway Iain: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Lees-Galloway Iain: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16887] 
IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Labour—Palmerston North) 
: 
 I agree with the previous speaker Catherine Delahunty to a certain extent. Clause 4A seems to be an odd clause to have included in the Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill. It would be interesting to know what the member in the chair actually thinks of it given that it was included by the Education and Science Committee. But I want to talk from my experience at Massey University about why I think this particular clause simply will not work in real terms when we think about it in practical terms. At Massey University there are a number of different campuses and each campus has its own students association. 
Progress to be reported presently. 
House resumed. 
The Chairperson reported progress on the Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill and no progress on the Employment Relations (Secret Ballot for Strikes) Amendment Bill. 
Report adopted.
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16883] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 51 
New Zealand Labour 38; Green Party 9; Maori Party 3; Progressive 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 57; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16883] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 51 
New Zealand Labour 38; Green Party 9; Maori Party 3; Progressive 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 57; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of the Hon Darren Hughes to clause 4 be agreed to: 
to omit “uphold students’ rights to freedom of association by removing any requirement for students to join students associations” and substitute “to increase student fees by removing value-for-money services provided by student associations”.
Goudie Sandra: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Goudie Sandra: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Volume:670;Page:16879] 
SANDRA GOUDIE (National—Coromandel) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Goodhew Jo: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Goodhew Jo: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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JO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 57; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Noes 51 
New Zealand Labour 38; Green Party 9; Maori Party 3; Progressive 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker) 
: The typescript amendment in the name of Grant Robertson is ruled out of order as it is inconsistent with the principles of the bill. I refer members to Standing Order 292(2). 
The next amendment is in the name of the Hon Darren Hughes: a typescript amendment regarding not providing for referenda decisions.
Carter David: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Carter David: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Hon DAVID CARTER (Minister of Agriculture) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I will put the closure. The question is that the question be now put.
Davis Kelvin: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
Davis Kelvin: Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill — In Committee 
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KELVIN DAVIS (Labour) 
: 
 Kia ora Mr Chairperson. The first line of the preamble of the Whanganui Iwi (Whanganui (Kaitoke) Prison and Northern Part of Whanganui Forest) On-account Settlement Bill states that the Treaty of Waitangi was signed in 1840. I think it is fair to say that things went downhill from there. At Waitangi on 5 February when all the political parties were invited on to Te Tii Marae at Waitangi the Prime Minister told Maori to put grievance behind them and to focus on education. I agree with those sentiments exactly. The way forward for Maori is to pursue education and to make sure we all achieve beyond our potential. But it is another thing to say we should just put grievance behind us. I agree with the sentiment but a heck of a lot has to be done to help us put grievance behind us as Maori. 
There is not an iwi in the country that was not affected by the deeds—or misdeeds—of the Crown and the Whanganui iwi are no different. They had their land taken away from them and they had all sorts of misdeeds perpetrated on them and it is only right that this bill is before the House now to turn those round and help rectify the wrongs of the past. 
The preamble to the bill sets out the background to the deed of on-account settlement of historical claims of Whanganui iwi in relation to the Whanganui Kaitoke Prison and part of the Whanganui Forest. The bill defines the term “deed of on-account settlement” as “The deed of on-account settlement of historical claims of Whanganui Iwi in relation to the Whanganui Kaitoke Prison and part of the Whanganui Forest between the working party on behalf of Whanganui Iwi the trustees of the Pakaitore Trust and the Crown dated 31 July 2009 and as amended from time to time”. 
I do not intend to go on in terms of debating the preamble but I think it is really important that we acknowledge that this is a very necessary bill and that the misdeeds and wrongs that have been perpetrated on the Whanganui iwi amongst other iwi across New Zealand are righted. This bill is the start towards rectifying those issues from the past. Kia ora.
Roy Eric: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Roy Eric: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I have been listening very carefully to the debate and looking ahead at what is in the bill. The purpose clause and the requirement as to the constitution of councils are largely what the debate so far has been about. This is a very narrow debate and the points about which members have been debating slot into the debate on clause 4 and clause 4A particularly. I am persuaded by the quality of the debate. I have listened to it and I have accepted the closure.
Gilmore Aaron: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
Gilmore Aaron: Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill — First Reading 
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AARON GILMORE (National) 
: 
 It is a pleasure to stand and correct some of the nonsense that has been coming from the other side of the House. [ 
Interruption 
] It could take hours and I have only a few minutes so I will just deal with what I can. First of all we heard the comment from members opposite that this Regulatory Reform (Repeals) Bill should have been taken into account with the bill that we had 2 days ago. Clearly the Opposition has not heard of a thing called the  
Standing Orders of the House of Representatives 
. This bill cannot be included in an omnibus bill which is why it is being dealt with separately. I wish the Opposition would learn the Standing Orders within which we have to operate. 
Secondly we heard a whole lot of conversation from members opposite who talked about railways and their relevance to this bill. Talking of railways and diesel I think that the contribution of “Diesel von Trapp” in the very brown hat over there will be very interesting to hear I am sure. 
The first Labour speaker on this bill Lianne Dalziel asked why bills are even printed any more. Ms Dalziel may be aware that in regard to the Legislation Bill that was recently dealt with by the Regulations Review Committee of which I am a member the Labour members on the committee fought vehemently to retain that clause in that bill. So I think that is very strange. Those members should talk a bit about what they want. 
But I will talk about the Government’s economic reform platform and the important part that regulatory reform is playing in that. The Government stands on a number of things. We stand on rebuilding infrastructure. We stand on having the ability to gain more skills and innovation. We stand on getting taxes down. We stand on reducing regulation and red tape. Before us today is a bill that does that. It removes 31 Acts of Parliament from the statute book like the Chateau Companies Act 1977 and the Clerks of Works Act Repeal Act 1992. What do those Acts do? They do nothing. They are a complete waste of time. That is what this Government is about: getting rid of things that are a waste of time and getting business and our economy growing. That is what we really truly believe in. The Opposition just believes in wasting time not following the rules and having discussions about things that are completely off the platform—so much so that we heard Mr Parker talk about the need for an economic agenda. Well I see that the Labour Party is advertising for an economic adviser in its office so it is obviously looking for ideas at the moment. I find it very hard to believe that Labour members are so full of good ideas that they need somebody else on their team. 
My contribution today is very short and sweet. I commend this bill to the House and I look forward to its continuing progress.
Chadwick Steve: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Chadwick Steve: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Hon STEVE CHADWICK (Junior Whip—Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I am surprised that the closure motion has been accepted although I do not want to cause problems by challenging the Chair. The Greens have a perspective that I want to hear. The Green members have sought the call every time. They have not had a call on this clause. I seek leave for you to review your decision.
Ardern Shane: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Ardern Shane: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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SHANE ARDERN (National—Taranaki - King Country) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Goodhew Jo: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Goodhew Jo: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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JO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 57; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Clause 2 agreed to.
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 57; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Noes 57 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Motion agreed to. 
The question was put that the following amendment in the name of Rahui Katene to clause 2 be agreed to: 
to omit “1 January 2012” and substitute “1 January 2013”.
Upston Louise: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Upston Louise: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupo) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
.
Calder Cam: Hamilton City Council (Parana Park) Land Vesting Bill — Second Reading 
Calder Cam: Hamilton City Council (Parana Park) Land Vesting Bill — Second Reading 
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Dr CAM CALDER (National) 
: 
 It is a great pleasure to rise and speak on the Hamilton City Council (Parana Park) Land Vesting Bill. I am delighted to observe that it enjoys wide support around the House. Such support has inspired the shadow Leader of the House with a fit of bonhomie so much so that his contribution was spiced with a mélange of malapropisms and lessons on South American geography. I thank Mr Mallard. 
The land and house were originally gifted as we know in a very very generous bequest by Hamilton farmer George Parr to be used as a children’s convalescent home for patients from Waikato Hospital. In the 1950s it became apparent that the house was unsuitable as a children’s convalescent home and it passed in 1958 to the Hamilton City Council. The Hamilton City (Parana Park) Empowering Act was duly passed to enable Hamilton City Council to more effectively manage Parana Park. 
William Pitt made the comment that parks were the lungs of London. No such grand claims have been made about Parana Park but it is a much-loved area of recreation. The purpose of this bill is to vest Parana Park in Hamilton City Council as a recreation reserve which will mean it is subject to the provisions of the Reserves Act 1977. Obviously that will require repeal of the Hamilton City (Parana Park) Empowering Act 1958. 
Parana Park is currently used for passive recreation activities and this would continue. The benefits to managing the land under the Reserves Act are that the public will have clear entitlement to use and enjoy the park as a recreation reserve the council will be required to complete a management plan and the public interest in the park will be protected by the conditions the Reserves Act imposes on the council as the administrative body of the reserve. The council will be required to manage the area in accordance with the Reserves Act which provides for the preservation and management of recreation reserves. I commend this bill to the House. 
Bill read a second time.
Wagner Nicky: Hamilton City Council (Parana Park) Land Vesting Bill — Second Reading 
Wagner Nicky: Hamilton City Council (Parana Park) Land Vesting Bill — Second Reading 
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NICKY WAGNER (National) 
: 
 I too rise to support the Hamilton City Council (Parana Park) Land Vesting Bill sponsored by our very excellent MP for Hamilton East David Bennett. Parana Park right next door to the Hamilton Gardens is a great asset for the people of Hamilton. It is used for community gatherings family occasions local events sports and recreation. It is used for walking biking playing and just lounging around. It is a very beautiful part of the city it is well used and it is well loved. 
I would like to reflect on Rahui Katene’s comment on its use by children. I do not know whether Hamilton celebrates Children’s Day. I know we celebrate that in Christchurch and it would be very nice to see a Children’s Day event at Parana Park. I am sure that George Parr would like that. 
This bill is to allow the Hamilton City Council to more effectively manage and administer Parana Park and under the Reserves Act the council will be required to complete a management plan for the reserve that will ensure that it is conserved maintained and developed for the future use of coming generations. 
The Local Government and Environment Committee examined the bill closely and with minor amendments such as the enshrining of the name Parana Park recommended that it be passed into law. I am sure that George Parr 80 years on would be pleased to see so many Hamiltonians especially the children using and enjoying his wonderful gift to the city.
Douglas Roger: Hamilton City Council (Parana Park) Land Vesting Bill — Second Reading 
Douglas Roger: Hamilton City Council (Parana Park) Land Vesting Bill — Second Reading 
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Hon Sir ROGER DOUGLAS (ACT) 
: 
 For the reasons outlined by the mover of the second reading of the Hamilton City Council (Parana Park) Land Vesting Bill ACT is very happy to support this bill.
Fenton Darien: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
Fenton Darien: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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6. 
DARIEN FENTON (Labour) 
 to the  
Member in charge of the Employment Relations (Secret Ballot for Strikes) Amendment Bill 
: What is the purpose of the Employment Relations (Secret Ballot for Strikes) Amendment Bill? 
Hon TAU HENARE (Member in charge of the Employment Relations (Secret Ballot for Strikes) Amendment Bill) 
:  
Democracy. 
Darien Fenton 
: Why does this bill place restrictions on the practices of unions but no equivalent restrictions on the activity of employers? 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: That member can bring forward a member’s bill about that issue any time she wants to. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I think I indicated to you that answering “democracy” to the primary question in a fairly random manner was a proper answer but that one— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I hear the member. I thought the member’s first answer was fine. He was asked what the purpose of the bill was and he claimed as the member in charge of the bill that democracy was the purpose. However I invite Darien Fenton to repeat her supplementary question because I think the answer should attempt to address it rather more than his previous answer did. 
Darien Fenton 
: Why does his bill place restrictions on the practices of trade unions but place no equivalent restrictions on the activity of employers? 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: Because the bill is about only unions and secret ballots for union members.
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
Vote: Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the amendment be agreed to. 
Ayes 57 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; Maori Party 5; Progressive 1. 
Noes 63 
New Zealand National 57; ACT New Zealand 5; United Future 1. 
Amendment not agreed to.