Utikere TangiTANGI UTIKERE (Labour—Palmerston North): Thank you Madam Chair. It's a pleasure to rise and take a call. It's the first opportunity that I've had to take a call since the election and I want to acknowledge you on your elevation to the role of Deputy Speaker. I know that you are someone who is fair handed. I've had the pleasure of working alongside you in my first term with the Governance and Administration Committee—a very good committee—and I know that you will do an excellent job and so I congratulate you on that.I do want to just reflect on the response that the Minister has just given around her expectation that bargaining and the like would stop and cease. I think it is premature of the Minister to outline that expectation right here right now when in fact the bill has not been given Royal assent and I think it is an important point and distinction to make. I'm delighted that my colleague Arena Williams has touched on some of the legal ramifications and matters that are currently before the committee when considering this bill. I do think that she has touched on a really important point that the Minister has still failed to respond to I think adequately and that is around proceedings that are currently in place. Compensation—that also is a question that may currently be in place or actually may not yet be finalised. I think that this is a very interesting and important point around the rights—not just the rights but the legal rights that those who are currently engaged in those proceedings actually don't currently have but continue to have and will have if at some future point this bill does receive Royal assent.Not just that but the fact that Royal assent at some stage of this bill will be given—it's interesting I reflect on my time just recently at Government House where often Royal assent is given and that was for the swearing in or the confirmation of the Speaker. But of course some who might be sitting at home listening to this at this late hour might think Well why have we suddenly gone from introduction of a bill first reading all the way through to considering when the title and the commencement date for this bill might happen all within the course of less than 12 hours?"—it is because members of the community have not had an opportunity to submit on what they think might be an appropriate title for this bill. They have not had an opportunity to think about what they think an appropriate commencement date might be for this bill because it has not been subjected to the normal scrutiny process that all other bills generally are expected to go through. Not even a truncated select committee process where those for whom this bill will have a significant impact can have their views aired and make their views known on what is an appropriate title for this bill.Now we have had a number of suggestions already. The Fair Pay Agreements Act Repeal Bill as it currently stands is fairly basic really. We've heard about the "Poor Pay Promise". We've heard from Mr McAnulty about the "Back to the Status Quo" as the title of this bill. This bill needs to be reflective of what it actually seeks to do. It is a clawback bill. It is a clawback bill and perhaps that should be specified in the title but we have not had the opportunity to hear from members of the public about what the appropriate title will be.Let's just reflect on who those members and organisations may actually be that want to share their views with this House and members of this House about when an appropriate commencement date would be—those who are engaged in sectors such as security early childhood bus drivers and cleaners the very people that make this particular House tick over day in day night. When we all leave here in the space of 45 minutes they will still be here far beyond it. Those are the very people who should have the opportunity to reflect on and submit on what an appropriate title will be for this bill. Because remember Madam Chair this is the title for which the Act if it is given Royal assent will be forever known as so it's not something that should be just treated lightly. And I think that the Minister does deserve to have—for those who have not been able to participate in a scrutiny process or a select committee process—the opportunity to share with them why the bill as currently drafted in its title and its commencement date is appropriate for the circumstances. Because certainly what we've heard in this House today all of those circumstances all of the aspects of debate do not lend itself to the current commencement suggestion in terms of date or title. So I expect a response from the Minister."