Mooney JosephJOSEPH MOONEY (National—Southland): Thank you very much Madam Chair. Minister I note that a number of commentators have raised some quite significant concerns about this bill—Sir Geoffrey Palmer former Prime Minister; the Hon Anne Tolley as chair of Transparency International New Zealand; the Hon Maurice Williamson a former statistics Minister; Len Cook former Government Statistician; the Library and Information Association of New Zealand; and the Chief Ombudsman.I'm going to limit my questions just to some concerns raised obviously in this part of the bill. And I'm just looking at the purpose noting clause 3(b)(i) is to enable the trusted collection and use of data for the production of official statistics and for research". And I note for example Transparency International Zealand who have echoed the New Zealand Council for Civil Liberties' concern saying the bottom line is that this bill dangerously conflates collection and use of data for the purpose of official statistics with collecting and sharing data for unspecified research.I'll just note that in the initial statements at the beginning of this debate the Minister referred to the United Nations Fundamental Principles of Official Statistics and said this was complying with that. I just need to raise a concern that the New Zealand Council for Civil Liberties has expressed saying that principle 6 of the United Nations Fundamental Principles of Official Statistics says "Individual data collected by statistical agencies for statistical compilation whether they refer to natural or legal persons are to be strictly confidential and used exclusively for statistical purposes." So I'll just invite the Minister to explain how clause 3(b)(i) namely the use of data for the production of official statistics and for research is consistent with principle 6 of the United Nations Fundamental Principles of Official Statistics in that it's used exclusively for statistical purposes; no mention there of research. It would be quite helpful if we could have an explanation of how that is consistent.The other point Minister I would note and we probably could explore this later on but it's just clause 3(d)(i) namely the protection of the interests of people and organisations represented in or by data that is used for the production of official statistics and for research by providing for appropriate privacy confidentiality and security. And just where that is shared overseas—and I do note this is clause 52 so we can probably get into this in more detail later but I'd just be interested in the Minister's views on how data shared overseas will be protected when the Privacy Act 2020 does not apply overseas and how people can be assured that information collected in New Zealand when shared overseas will be protected when those privacy provisions don't apply to the use of that data overseas.The other point Minister is clause 6 namely the definition of data which says data includes information. I just note again that the New Zealand Council for Civil Liberties has raised an issue here where they are saying that this definition suggests that the data that agencies can compel other Government departments to provide for research does not have to exist solely as a defined and structured data set but can be any information held by it however loosely. They've gone on to say that data that was gathered by an agency for one limited purpose—and which are provided by members of the public on the understanding that that is all that it would be used for—will be available for any research Stats NZ or another agency chief executive to whom the Statistician's powers have been delegated considers desirable. There will be no obligation on that agency that receives the transferred data to delete it after the research has been completed. So I would just invite the Minister to address that concern that the definition of data in clause 6—"data includes information"—could be any information gathered by an agency for any purpose however loosely as opposed to a defined and structured data set."