SpeechBRETT HUDSON (National): Thank you Madam Chair. Well now I get to respond to the comments of the Minister in the chair the Hon Stuart Nash on my Supplementary Order Papers (SOPs). I think he should probably start by actually reading the regulations that exist under the previous legislation because that did have a limited pest control exemption in it and the police created regulations to manage that. They're not in the primary legislation; they were added to it. And they require a pest control management plan to be in place by the territorial authority. So the firearms can only be used in an area where there is a valid pest problem where the pest is of a sort that might either require or genuinely benefit from that sort of firearm. So the notion that my SOP 449 would allow any farmer including a farmer that just might want to shoot some bunnies to get hold of a prohibited category firearm is just blatantly showing that the Minister doesn't understand his own bill he doesn't understand the existing legislation and it would appear he hasn't bothered to read the regulations that police have been merrily making to give effect to the powers under that existing legislation.Now the other part is I think the Government—possibly this Minister although it's not actually in his portfolio—now should apologise it appears to the America's Cup contestants and in fact remove some of the visa exemptions or processing they've done recently because of the Minister's statement that in order for something to be a bona fide sport it has to be included in the Commonwealth Games or the Olympics. I'm not sure they race America's Cup class yachts in either the Olympics or the Commonwealth Games. To say that only a shooting event that is undertaken at either the Commonwealth or Olympic Games is worthy of participation domestically or internationally is quite frankly astounding and offensive not only to shooters in New Zealand but indeed our neighbours and others around the world. It is not an Olympic classification that gives some legitimacy to any sport because to take that approach would say that any sport that is not on the current rota for the Olympic Games or Commonwealth Games is somehow less worthy.The Minister also missed a point on that sport shooting that fundamentally the people that he acknowledged that are so well disciplined so well managed and so well behaved and are part of Pistol New Zealand are the same people particularly in the International Practical Shooting Confederation three-gun discipline. I know this because I've visited a number of ranges and clubs. I have seen them participating in their sport. The range that is used for that sort of sport shooting that would now use prohibited category firearms is the same range that is used for other still legitimate and lawful pistol shooting. So to somehow create a second tier to somehow allude to them being different or different ranges is simply not reflected in the experiences of shooters every week in some cases for those that practise for international competition every day across the country.But in the acknowledgment that we can have confidence in the rules the governance the behaviours the discipline that Pistol New Zealand has—to acknowledge that that is legitimate and worthy merely highlights the fact that that's exactly what I've said should be done to allow the use of now prohibited category firearms or capacities.The example the Minister made about the National Rifle Association (NRA) is quite laughable for a couple of reasons. One is that not one of us in New Zealand should be afraid of the NRA or any other international lobby group. I think we're all a bit—Hon Member: Huh! OK.BRETT HUDSON: Well if the Minister's not stronger than they are he should think very seriously about vacating his seat in the Beehive because I tell you what there wouldn't be anyone on this side that wouldn't be prepared to stand up to them. But the point he missed saying the NRA could just waltz in and start up a club is in the SOP 445. It says it has to be certified by the commissioner.Sitting suspended from 10 p.m. to 9 a.m. (Wednesday)