Tirikatene RinoRINO TIRIKATENE (Labour—Te Tai Tonga): Thank you Madam Chair. I'm pleased to take a short call in this committee stage. I just want to address a couple of the points that Mr Bennett raised particularly around the issue of the ownership of core data.Unfortunately time was against us as a committee to really fully explore that particular point. I don't know Mr Bennett's reading of the Crown Law opinion but it definitely was unclear as to where the actual ownership of the data lay whether it was with the companies or whether it was the National Animal Identification and Tracing (NAIT) organisation that owned the system or whether it actually was retained by the Crown when the Crown entered into the transaction with NAIT to divest itself of the NAIT system. So that was a moot point that we tossed around as a committee. We know that there were very impassioned submissions from a wide variety of farmers in particular who were vehemently against the Crown declaring ownership of the data within the NAIT system. But in the end I think we've come to a very good sensible point in this bill. Rather than being able to really come to a definitive conclusion on it the bill is remaining silent on that very point. But the Minister still for all intents and purposes has the power that was always intended with this legislation to request all or part of that data from the NAIT organisation at any point. So it is a moot point around the core data ownership but the Minister still retains the ultimate power to request the NAIT information and ultimately also to be able to amend legislation and regulations that go to the operation of the system. I liken the example around the ownership of the core data to the foreshore and seabed scenario for Māori where the Crown may have asserted ownership over a domain of the common marine area which was vehemently opposed. So the subsequent act by this Parliament was to enact legislation which was to say that no one owned the common marine coastal area. That was specified in that piece of legislation which is very similar to where we've ended up with this albeit we are not specifying within the actual legislation itself that no one owns the core data. What we're saying is that it's silent it's not really needed for this particular piece of legislation and ultimately we want to ensure that the Minister is able to perform all of the powers which are necessary. And we mustn't forget that the overall purpose of this legislation is to ensure that the NAIT system can effectively and accurately trace all animals and their movements in the interests of protecting New Zealand's biosecurity. That is the fundamental purpose of the legislation. I want to acknowledge the members of the Primary Production Committee. We all had that overall purpose in mind. Sure there might have been you know quibbling over some technical points but ultimately we've come to a very good piece of legislation that we've reported back on. Likewise I want to acknowledge the officials who were very helpful and under quite a lot of pressure to be able to obviously meet the demands of our chair but also to make those necessary improvements which would ultimately gain the consensus of the committee for us to report the bill back within our required reporting time and we managed to tick off all those boxes very successfully. So all up the bill that we have now in the House at this committee stage is going to be a vast improvement on the operation of the NAIT system. We know that this legislation will go hand in hand with the operational side and together it will be good ultimately for our biosecurity system.