McAnulty KieranKIERAN McANULTY (Labour): Thank you very much Mr Chair. You know I came into the Chamber tonight to do my whip's duty; I had no intention of speaking on this bill. But I have been absolutely motivated by the contributions tonight because I didn't realise coming from Masterton a town that doesn't tend to have an issue with clamping how much of an issue this was. I am appalled and outraged—not quite to Tim Macindoe - level outrage but I'm still outraged. No one does outrage like Tim Macindoe! But nevertheless—nevertheless—I am shocked to hear of the stories that my colleagues have shared tonight of people that have been clamped and have faced exorbitant fines. I am shocked that it has taken this long in 2019 to regulate this industry. We had nine long years of overcharging and finally we have a Minister in the Hon Kris Faafoi who is doing something about it. And I believe that the $100 that is proposed in this bill is fair because let's not forget often in the cases that we're talking about people are parking in places where they shouldn't; we shouldn't dismiss that. But we also shouldn't take the line that the National Party appeared to take: that they are on the side of big business and they are on the side of scammers. Because they have had two contributions tonight; both of them were trivial. They don't seem to care but this side of the House does care. The question that I have for the Minister tonight is: why are we stopping here? Why are we not looking to impose a system that licenses these operators? That's what I want to know. Are we satisfied—not quite as satisfied as the other side of the House who just want to have these cowboys running around clamping things left right and centre and charging any price that they can think of; some arbitrary rate 300 bucks 700 bucks—$2000 for my friend and his constituent's trailer. We have a lot of trailers in Masterton. I'd be absolutely appalled to see that if someone who had a trailer perhaps with a couple of sheep perhaps they've been doing a bit of DIY they've gone into Masterton to grab a pie and then they've come out they've taken a couple of spaces there. Now we've got big parking spaces in Masterton but they've taken a couple of spaces and they come out and they've been clamped. We tolerate that sort of behaviour but I'm thinking about comrades in Auckland and Wellington and Christchurch and Dunedin where they have smaller car parks. It's hard to fit a ute in a car park in Dunedin I've tried—I studied there for four years and it was difficult to park my ute. I would be horrified after coming out of a cafe and getting a pie to find that I've got a clamp on my wheel and that I'm facing an $800 fine. Now if I had parked my ute in an area which I shouldn't have—perhaps in front of the new hospital that this Government is funding—then fair enough. But I would like to know that the Government has done something to regulate the fining system—and that is what this does here with $100. What I want to know though is why we are not looking to make sure that the operators that do this clamping are licensed. I'm sure there's a good reason for it but for the spirit of this debate the people listening at home—who are grateful for this side of the House actually contributing to this debate—want to know why and they want to have confidence that what's proposed in this bill has been thought through and I'm sure it has. I would be grateful to the Minister for taking this opportunity to actually give people that are listening at home some confidence that what's in this bill is in their interest and has been well thought through.