Davidson MaramaMARAMA DAVIDSON (Green): Madam Chairperson Tolley thank you very much. I wanted to pick up a short call specifically on a couple of points raised by the National Party members both Denise Lee and the Hon Nikki Kaye particularly when the Hon Nikki Kaye got quite passionate and righteous about the damage that this was going to do for—I think she mentioned—a few hundred Māori and Pacific children which we do like to talk about here in the Chamber and how it was going to harm them. She was referring I think specifically to private education arrangements including charter schools. I know this is the Education (Tertiary Education and Other Matters) Amendment Bill but it does relate to Part 2 and particularly to Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 17 from the Hon Paul Goldsmith which essentially from what I'm reading is about continuing with the ideological drive for privatising tertiary education and particularly allowing them to have a bit of a bite at public moneys.So what I wanted to pick up on there is that privatisation is a failed response to when you have gutted funding from public education when you haven't paid teachers and tutors correctly and when you haven't provided for the education resources. When you are gutting and underfunding public education that then allows for an ideological response which is exactly what the previous National Government were trying to do with their original version of this legislation. So it is important that we keep actually saying: who are the ideological ones here?It's about making sure that we are clear and up front about the difference between private tertiary institutions and public tertiary institutions and my understanding in Part 2 is that that was how we were going to start muddying those lines of differentiation by trying to play around with the definitions and I think calling them independent—the proposal was to start to take away the word private" and instead start calling tertiary institutions independent. That was the roundabout way I believe—that's I think what this Supplementary Order Paper is about. The Supplementary Order Paper from the National member is trying to put back in that attempt to continue with the privatisation ideology. The reason why the Greens support this now is because this part of the legislation Part 2—I think it's after clause 11—was taken out by a smart education Minister Chris Hipkins who understands that we do not want to continue to use more public moneys for private institutions. Public money is for public education. The member Paul Goldsmith's SOP tries to put it back in—tries to put that ideology back in—so of course the Greens will be opposing this Supplementary Order Paper.When we stand in this Chamber and we throw on to the floor of this debate Māori and Pacific children who apparently are going to lose private contract funding through this legislation we need to call that out because we need to also throw on to the floor of this debate the hundreds of thousands of Māori and Pacific students who do not fare well when we gut public education. So if you want to throw numbers and throw Māori and Pacific Island students—I didn't do it first—on this floor how about we—CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): I didn't do it at all all right?MARAMA DAVIDSON: —throw on to the floor of this debate the hundreds of thousands who have not benefited from the very privatisation ideology that this legislation is trying to correct. Thank you."