Ngarewa-Packer Debbie; Menéndez March RicardoDEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader—Te Pāti Māori): Thank you Madam Chair and mōrena everyone. I have a series of questions for the Minister particularly around new section 15 inserted by clause 11—on page 4 last time I looked. What it's saying in subsection (a) is that Health New Zealand must take reasonable steps" and going further "administrative analytical or financial support where needed". The concerns and the question I have is: in the absence of baseline data—which is what we have been advised; there hasn't been performance data arranged from the locality plans. In fact I understand that we're still looking at data that's from the district health board era. What is it and how is it that the Minister's proposing to analyse and provide data so that this section can be met? A question I have is: what are the outcomes of the Māori commissioning for the blueprint of Te Aka Whai Ora? These are questions that I would expect that the Minister has or has been briefed on in preparation for this transfer and most specifically how has it been upheld? Where and how is the locality plans' data going to be applied for Health New Zealand? If there is indeed an absence how is the Minister going to understand the regional performances and the required investment?Also I guess one of the other things that we have real concerns with: if there is an absence of this data in Te Aka Whai Ora then one assumes there is an absence of data still in the early stages of those iwi-Māori partnership boards. How exactly in this period—and I understand there are four months for the staff. I get that. Then there's five years and there's going to be a review. What is the proposition for us—that we're able to keep monitoring of the data and that there is no drop? And again I have a common theme in my concerns for the preparation of Te Whatu Ora - Health New Zealand to receive this entity and the fact that a lot of that intel will be sitting in the very hands of the kaimahi and those on the ground no doubt. So my question isn't asking whether there is data; my question is asking how the datasets are being gathered how they can be reported on and most specifically from your perspective how they can be monitored so that we can be assured there is absolutely no drop in performance. And what is the baseline of those? So I just want to emphasise there has been again the outcomes of Māori commissioning for and the actual blueprint that has been analysed from Te Aka Whai Ora and how that has been gathered to move into the Health New Zealand - Te Whatu Ora space.RICARDO MENÉNDEZ MARCH (Green): Tēnā koe Madam Chair. I acknowledge this is the first call I'll take in this debate and so I want to begin by acknowledging as a first generation migrant to Aotearoa that a lot of the discourse that has landed us here is sort of a direct result of a pitting of Māori against migrant communities particularly when it comes to health outcomes. I'm here by virtue of Te Tiriti and I have a strong sense of responsibility to not allow those narratives to take hold and to push back against those.But in relationship to Part 2—and I hope to make more substantive contributions in the third reading—I was interested in just the line around "all information and documents held by [Te Aka Whai Ora] are held by Health New Zealand". I wanted to pick one of the key initiatives of Te Aka Whai Ora Te Rangatiratanga Raraunga Māori around Māori data sovereignty. This is one of the key initiatives that Te Aka Whai Ora was running and it recognised that Māori data is protected under the Te Tiriti o Waitangi and the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples. Right now Te Aka Whai Ora is doing a piece of work with Te Whatu Ora and Manatū Hauora to facilitate and support Māori to develop some framework for Māori by Māori and I'm interested to know how the Minister intends this piece of work to progress if all information and documents are transferred to Te Whatu Ora effectively. And one of the key reasons why I ask this is that there have been incidents of data leaks from Te Whatu Ora and these have compromised the personal information of people and therefore if this work is now compromised. I hear the member from ACT is kind of perhaps making a little jab around speaking to the bill but this is around the transfer of information and therefore this is incredibly relevant. So I invite that ACT member to actually maybe read the bill in full rather than make random calls that are actually not related to what we're talking about. So thank you for those contributions that I personally didn't welcome. But I'm keen to get the Minister's reflection on what will happen in relationship to the initiatives regarding Māori data sovereignty; how does he intend for that data to be protected as it is transferred back to Te Whatu Ora and whether he intends as part of the transfer of information documents for that piece of work to continue. We have seen through other pieces of legislation the need to commit to continuously do—across all Government work—initiatives in relationship to protecting Māori data. So it's not just a health issue but I think information in relation to health is particularly sensitive and this is why I want to bring up how a specific part of Part 2 of this bill impacts one of the key initiatives of Te Aka Whai Ora. I'm just wondering whether if there is an intent to continue this initiative the resourcing of that initiative would change—whether it would increase whether it would decrease—because otherwise this is one of the key initiatives that I think could be lost as a result of this piece of legislation and it would be a deep deep shame for our health space to not be honouring Te Tiriti via better protection of Māori data."