5. Question No. 5—HealthDr SHANE RETI (National—Whangarei) to the Minister of HealthQuestion No. 5—Health5. Dr SHANE RETI (National—Whangarei) to the Minister of Health: Does he stand by his statements and actions around coronavirus testing in isolation facilities?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Health): Yes in their full context.Dr Shane Reti: How does he reconcile his answer to written questions that day three testing has not been compulsory in managed isolation despite the national testing strategy requiring day three testing and is this another hole in the border?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: No there's been no issue with the compliance with day three testing as I've said to the member many many times.Dr Shane Reti: Is day three testing compulsory in managed isolation facilities?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: No it is not under the order. But as I've said to the member many many times people are doing it.Dr Shane Reti: How does he reconcile not testing everyone around day three with Dr Bloomfield's comments five days ago that if you have 14 days plus the day three and day 12 plus … good infection prevention and control that seems to be the best way of ensuring the lowest risk of someone leaving managed isolation who is infectious."?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: Because those are the things we're doing.Rt Hon Jacinda Ardern: Can the Minister confirm that aside from there not having been compliance issues if someone refuses testing they have to stay in a managed isolation facility for longer?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: Yes and as I've indicated many many times to the member opposite people are doing their day three and day 12 tests.Dr Shane Reti: How then does he reconcile not testing everyone in managed isolation around day three with Dr Bloomfield's June comments that "Everyone in our managed isolation facilities will be tested around day three."?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: I would encourage the member not to stick to pre-scripted questions and listen to the answers I've already given.Hon Dr Megan Woods: Can the Minister confirm that since 17 June no one has left a managed isolation or quarantine facility without returning a negative day 12 test the test most important to the protection of New Zealanders?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: Yes I can confirm that. I'd also note that one of the reasons the day 12 test is so important is that we have had people who have tested negative on day three that have subsequently tested negative on day 12. This virus can have quite a long incubation period.SPEAKER: I think the member might want to just give the last bit of his answer again.Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: Sorry positive on their second test yeah.Dr Shane Reti: Are hotel isolation staff put at risk if day three testing of arrivals in managed isolation is not compulsory?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: No.Dr Shane Reti: Have the Government's border policies been informed in any way by modelling that formally assumed day three testing was compulsory when we now know it is not?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: I'm not entirely sure what the thrust of the member's question is. As I've said day three testing is happening.Hon Dr Megan Woods: Can the Minister confirm that staff at managed isolation facilities are not put at risk because within our managed isolation facilities we behave as if everybody has COVID and there are strict protocols in place to protect both returnees and staff and that is why we've had 40000 people through these facilities and one positive case in a staff member?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: Yes I can confirm that and I can also say that I visited several of these facilities myself and saw firsthand the great lengths that the people working in them are going to to keep themselves and the people who are staying there safe.Dr Shane Reti: Given that answer was the maintenance man at the Rydges shown on CCTV to be wearing a mask?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: My understanding is that they haven't yet been able to identify exact footage of the lift trip in question.Dr Shane Reti: Does he agree that New Zealanders believe and have been reassured that testing of all arrivals into managed isolation occurs around day three?Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: I've just given those answers. People are being tested at day three and day 12. There is no issue with compliance."