Logie JanJAN LOGIE (Green): I was not necessarily going to speak in this stage of this bill but after hearing Andrew Bayly the last speaker I feel compelled to respond because what I heard that speaker say was that older New Zealanders and people with disabilities do not deserve the minimum wage. I have got to say that that is the absolute reason for this legislation. It is that there are people in our society who think like that and that we actually need to protect people from them. There are people who will take advantage who hold discriminatory views that belong in the 1950s and who take advantage of people and we need to protect those people from them. This piece of legislation—I thank the Hon David Parker for bringing it to the House. It is about lifting this base standard in our society to be a little bit fairer. I have listened to a lot of the debate tonight and I would like to frame the rest of my contribution just to speak a little bit more specifically about how this affects women. Casualisation of work and insecurity of work which is a significant part of the contracting environment for many disproportionately affects women. The research that was done by the Council of Trade Unions in 2013 showed that temporary workers are more likely to be female than permanent workers are and women make up 58 percent of temporary—The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Trevor Mallard): Order! I am reluctantly interrupting the member but as I ruled on an earlier bill this afternoon we are in the Committee stage. All we are debating now is whether the details in the clauses in the bill reflect the agreement of the House to proceed at the second reading. The member is giving a very interesting second reading debate but it is not relevant.JAN LOGIE: Thank you for that guidance. I was linking to this bill in terms of the employment contract environment that contractors sit within and how that impacts on women and the benefit of this bill for women who are in contracting environments in this country. We recognise that through the process to try to get the bill passed there have been limitations made that have excluded some workers which women would have benefited from. This is part of the process of trying to make a difference when we have this Government in power. That is a shame but it is still worth doing and women would still benefit from us passing this legislation. This Government has talked specifically—and I know that for contractors this is particularly relevant—about work being the answer to poverty in this country particularly when we talk about child poverty; work is the answer. Contracting is a significant part of our work environment these days. If we want our children to be able to achieve at school to be healthy to be safe actually we need to ensure that their parents who are in sole-parent - headed households—mostly women—actually get a fair deal. This legislation is one small step towards helping us do that. It is entirely inconsistent for this Government to say that work is the answer and then not to put the protections in place to ensure that people get the benefit of that work and to allow employers who hold the attitude expressed by the previous speaker to rip off those workers of what they deserve. This Committee should not give that Government any more space in expressing those views. I hope the Government will reflect on its values and come to support this bill.The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Trevor Mallard): I call Jonathan Young—slightly reluctantly given his earlier comments.