O'Connor DamienHon DAMIEN O'CONNOR (Minister of Agriculture): Thank you Mr Chairman. I appreciate that the previous speaker was asking legitimate questions and I think I'll try and take the opportunity even though I've come into this relatively late. It's a piece of legislation the previous Government brought forward in an attempt to clarify the whole process and I can vouch for the fact that it's been imperfect the Crown Minerals Act permitting regime for many years so we believe this is progress on it.Can I address the issue of compelling reasons. I understand that the Act at the moment has a definition of compelling reasons" in it so we're not inventing something new here and the Minister will probably take guidance from the same set of criteria—that is what is compelling or not—when making the decisions. One of those reasons is of course if the information wasn't available. So that's a fairly legitimate one. If the Minister can be convinced that that was the situation clearly it would be a compelling reason.Can I say that in terms of his reference to a change of ownership happening very very quickly if anyone is to buy shares or buy a company and not do some kind of due diligence then they deserve what they get quite frankly. If they haven't looked at the company and all its potential and its permits and the status of those permits perhaps then maybe they shouldn't be so quick to make the purchase—take some more time. So I think it's fairly legitimate to ask of someone that they you know prior to the end of consent then request a change of ownership. I think that's perfectly reasonable.If I can without specifying particular cases say that you know there's been a bit of gaming and wheeling and dealing around these permits over the years and I think that Government—previous Governments and probably ours too—is to have legitimate utilisation by legitimate companies of the access to the Crown's minerals. So the gaming that has sometimes occurred the wheeling and dealing in permits that has sometimes not been very clear I think needs to be eliminated. We want people to be able to mine minerals for legitimate reasons in a legitimate way and to have access to them in a way that is overseen by Government in the proper way.I think there have been a few questions asked prior to me coming into the chair. I'm not sure that I'm in a position to answer each and every one of them other than to say that you know there has been thorough consideration. The ministerial oversight which is pretty important here is guided by the existing Act and I think by I guess due diligence and by jurisprudence over other parts of the Crown Minerals Act in its history.I don't think there's anything else that I can clarify for the member other than I guess access to legitimate credibility for operators in terms of finance and health and safety. I think it would be fair to say that if anyone has a track record that is not up to spec—that is that they have abused the health and safety system or they've gone broke a number of times—then I think it would be fair enough for the Minister to take that into consideration when they are allowing a permit to be transferred. So fair questions but I have to say you have to trust the parliamentary system and the Minister in charge at the time and I'm sure that as long as it's a coalition Minister there will be sound judgments made all the way through the Crown Minerals Act."