Robertson GrantGRANT ROBERTSON (Labour—Wellington Central): Yes well there was no other choice in fact—Hon Ruth Dyson: Regardless.GRANT ROBERTSON: —but thank you Mrs Dyson. So Part 3 as the Minister in the chair Chris Finlayson has said—I guess for ordinary people thinking about intelligence agencies this is what they think about: the excitement of an assumed identity and taking on the identity of somebody else. I invite members in the Chamber—Kelvin Davis: It's the Maxwell Smart club.GRANT ROBERTSON: —that is right—and those watching along at home to perhaps play a little game that I was taught possibly when I worked for a large foreign ministry which is that if you want to create your own spy identity what you should do is take your middle name and the street where you grew up or where you lived for the longest when you were growing up. So your middle name is your first name and your last—Iain Lees-Galloway: Francis Robertson thank you very much.GRANT ROBERTSON: There we go so here is Francis Robertson". I myself am "Murray Pretoria"—ha ha—which I think makes me sound like a South African spy but that is me. So I invite other members of the Committee to have a think about where they are at in terms of their identity should they require their own identity under Part 3 Subpart 1. I will perhaps think for a second call of what a corporate assumed identity might be based on. I will have a think about that but on behalf of "Murray Pretoria" I stand to make this speech under Subpart 1.Actually in all seriousness the part that I wanted to focus on here is actually the one that the Minister has highlighted around Part 3 Subpart 3. Firstly I want to say that this is a very positive development because in all parts of this bill striking the balance between enabling the agencies to do the job that we as New Zealanders need them to do but having the checks and balances in place to protect New Zealanders' privacy and also to protect the integrity of the service is vital. The best way to do that is to have some form of transparency and that is what Subpart 3 "Register of assumed identities and legal entities created or maintained" creates.I think it is a very thorough piece of work in this part because it provides that on each request and on each direction that is given in terms of taking on an identity it is required for that to be entered into the register and indeed the point at which it is cancelled as well is also part of it. This is excellent work I think from the Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade Committee—to put this in here—and as the Minister noted himself in Subpart 3 clause 45A(3) what is essential is that there is at least somebody who can access that register. On this clause it is the Minister responsible for the agency and the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security. In a previous life I would have had some concern about the fact that it was only the inspector-general. I think we have not always been so brilliantly well-served by people in that role but we are now and the inspector-general's office has had significantly more resources put into it; it is now able to play a role. I would hope that the inspector-general would be taking a relatively proactive view of the register and making sure that the register is being accessed on a regular basis to ensure that the agencies are meeting their obligations under Subpart 1 and Subpart 2 of this part.I think for the most part I am comfortable with what is in here. The definition section does obviously indicate what an authorised person is. That was changed by the committee and I do not know that there is any significance in that change but the Minister may choose to let us know if there is. Obviously not only to facilitate the register there were the additions within Subpart 1 around the record being publicly available if an agency in the ordinary course of activities makes that record available for public inspection or searching. I do wonder whether the Minister might want to tell us under what circumstances that would occur. What are the boundaries around whether an agency would make it public? I think you know as I say the more transparency the better in these situations but it would be good to understand exactly the balance that is attempting to be struck there. Just before I run out of time the clause where that is mentioned is 25(2). So if the Minister could give us a bit of help with that that would be appreciated."