Bishop ChrisCHRIS BISHOP (National—Hutt South): Thank you very much Madam Deputy Speaker. Well they were very good puns but that was a truly terrible speech by Dr Duncan Webb. In fact the performance of the Government members in the House tonight so far has been lamentable absolutely lamentable. We have a Government party or Government members who have a police Minister who talks up and down the country about smashing the gangs and when the National Opposition puts up a sensible bill supported by the police by a parliamentary select committee and supported by the New Zealand Police Association what do we have? Well we hear nothing but opposition. It is absolutely disgraceful.Let's go through the grab-bag of reasons that the members opposite have offered up so far. First of all we hear Well the police don't support it." Well it was interesting because I asked David Clark who was standing in for Stuart Nash to table that and he refused. So we'll just wait and see. We'll send an Official Information Act request in. We'll have a look at that as to whether or not the police really did advise him to vote against this bill because we know the police actually recommended to the incoming Minister Stuart Nash that a firearms prohibition order regime be developed. They may have a few issues with the wording around this. That's why you send bills to select committee—to tidy them up. So that deals with that.Then we have this issue with warrantless searches and I've got to say that we on this side of the House find this comical because it was only a month ago that the Government turned up here and rammed a bill through all stages under urgency to put in place warrantless searches on farms. So let's get this straight: warrantless searches are OK to check cows on farms but beyond the pale when it comes to going into gang members' houses and checking whether or not they have illegal sawn-off shotguns. Let's just say that again. Warrantless searches: all good for cows on farms in rural New Zealand. But for police going into houses occupied by violent gang members to check whether or not they've got illegal firearms: beyond the pale a breach of the human rights we couldn't possibly countenance this. Good to know where Labour's priorities are. Warrantless searches for cows not for gang members.Then we have this argument that we need a holistic approach. I love this holistic approach. Let me tell you how the holistic approach to the firearms review is going. Stuart Nash said after he became the Minister "There will be a review." Then in March he said "I've started a review." We're in September and guess what? The scope of the review has not yet been clarified—six months later. This is a guy totally out of his depth in the portfolio. We're a year in. They're doing a review. Greg O'Connor talked about it. Duncan Webb said it's the panacea—it's the answer to everything. They haven't even started the review yet. Well we on this side of the House wait with bated breath to see how the review goes. But you can't just say we need a holistic approach and deny good ideas on that basis.Hon Judith Collins: Ginny Andersen wanted it.CHRIS BISHOP: That's right; Ginny Andersen wanted it apparently according to Judith. I want to talk about "Uncle Ron's" speech because I have never heard such a diatribe of rubbish in Parliament. It was literally like "Uncle Ron" turns up and you know "I've been in Parliament since 1996 and I'm 'Mr Firearms-lover' and you know I know everything there is to know about firearms and I'm going to spend four minutes talking about all the various attempts to reform the Arms Act." He could not mount an argument against the bill. He wanted to talk a lot about how he is the friend of the firearms lobby. Good for him. It was just a rant. It was embarrassing.Then on the counter we have Golriz Ghahraman who said "There's no problem here. Why are we even talking about this? There's no issue with illegal firearms in New Zealand. There's no problem with gang members having access to illegal firearms and using them to create terror out on the streets of New Zealand." In Golriz Ghahraman's world—you know frankly it's a pretty strange world but in her world there's no issue nothing to see here move along there's no need for this bill. To be fair we did not hear that from Greg O'Connor. He's got his head screwed on slightly more straight than Golriz Ghahraman.So look the reality is very simple. There is a problem with illegal firearms out there in society. In fact there was a two-year select committee inquiry which my friend Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi chaired which found exactly that. So I suggest to the honourable member from the Greens that she go and read that report.This is a good bill. It is not perfect. No bills at first reading are. It should go to a select committee. I never thought I would see the day that Mr Stuart "Smash the Gangs" Nash would vote against a bill to actually do just that."