Jackson WillieHon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister of Employment): After that speech that member should be removed from the Māori nation. It was a disgraceful speech. The Māori nation—I can say; I got a call while he was talking—are ashamed of him. Māori have been such a—he knows this. He's a disgrace to the Bidois name too.Barbara Kuriger: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. At one point the member—through our member's speech—talked about his parents disowning him and now he's talking about Māoridom disowning him and I think that's a step too far.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe): I think it's unhelpful for the Hon Willie Jackson to make such statements. I don't think it is actually out of order; however it is unhelpful and I encourage him to speak directly to the bill from now on.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker and I'll take your advice on that.I'm talking about this bill though because this is a bill where Māori will benefit. This is a bill where workers will benefit. And I have to say I feel embarrassed and ashamed when I hear some of the speeches from the National Party today because they are attacking good people in this country. Shocking speeches are coming across where they're trampling on workers' rights. I have to say today: we believe in work we believe in dignified work and I think this bill gives us an opportunity to restore the balance. When I hear the rubbish the nonsense coming from Mr Bidois it really is a worry—it really is a worry because he should know better. Māori have benefited so much off unions—so much. And I stand today and I'll say: I support unions. And we're not embarrassed by that. If the bill—and I think it does—supports a lot of union rights then that's fabulous. There's nothing to apologise about. It is a—Hon Alfred Ngaro: John Tamihere doesn't support them.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Who cares about John Tamihere? You know that. Who cares about him? Anti-union—he should join the National Party that bloke. But in some areas and Mr Bidois was talking about it—meal breaks for instance. I am so pleased that workers are allowed to have meal breaks—structured meal breaks. Under the previous Government they didn't know whether they were coming or going. Dan Bidois would have had them starving all day. We know this for a fact. The National Party don't care about workers getting regular meal breaks. And it falls very much into our health and safety area. We must have strong and healthy workers who have regular breaks. I'm proud that we have incorporated that into this bill.In terms of the 90-day trial period again we've worked well with New Zealand First on this. There's no back-down. This is what Government's all about. This is about compromise. And I understand some of the concerns for the smaller employers. So the 90-day arrangement that we have now fits nicely. I for one am tired as are other people here who've worked in the unions of watching rogue employers knocking off workers getting rid of workers at 89 days—using and utilising workers. That's not the New Zealand workplace that I was brought up in. We have to give these workers security. We have to give them safety. We don't want them to be on a National Party agenda. We don't want them to be on Dan Bidois' agenda where they don't know if they've got work the next day or the next week—Hon Member: Let them choose.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: No we don't want it like that. We want them to have some security. So we'll look after the smaller employers. We worked with New Zealand First on this. I'm very pleased with the compromise. The small employers who don't have the resources that the big employers have—and it's a good compromise where we have employers with under 20 workers and they have an exemption in this area. But we will protect and look after workers unlike the Opposition on the other side.Can I say I'm particularly pleased with reinstatement being restored as the primary remedy for an unfair dismissal. Again Mr Bidois touched on this. That is the way to go. I was a union official for many years and I started to get a little dismayed that we were going down the track that when someone was unjustifiably dismissed we would say Oh you can have $2000 or $3000." That's not the way to go. What our people want is their jobs back. They want their jobs back. So restoring that as a primary remedy—you need to listen to this Mr Bidois; we might take you back into the Māori nation if you listen properly—is the way to go because it gives workers security. When a worker is unjustifiably dismissed they deserve their job back.So I commend Iain Lees-Galloway and particularly Jan Tinetti who's made a great contribution and—ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe): Order! The member's—[Interruption] Order! I call Denise Lee—five minutes."