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Sage EugenieHon EUGENIE SAGE (Green): Thank you Mr Chair. I'm a bit puzzled. Where have National Party members been? It has always been able for Ministers to introduce Supplementary Order Papers (SOPs) to change a bill after it has been reported back from a select committee.National speakers seem to have ignored a lot of the submissions that went into the Primary Production Committee from recreational fishers; organisations like LegaSea Forest & Bird the Environmental Law Initiative and the Environmental Defence Society; and others who had a major problem with the pre-set decision rules and expressed substantial concerns.What we've heard from National members is the assumption that we should only in a select committee rely on the submissions from the fishing industry. Certainly as I said last night the fishing industry did support pre-set decision rules but a lot of other people had considerable apprehension and concern about them because of the way in which they reduce the ability of the public to have a say on what happens to a common—I'm not going to use the word resource"—to fish which we share in common. The pre-set decision rules—certainly there is consultation on the scope of the rule but if there is quite a wide range for that rule the Minister makes a decision when he or she applies it with no public consultation. It has been New Zealanders getting involved by challenging previous Ministers about the unsustainability of total allowable commercial catch (TACC) the need to reduce the TACC and the need to provide for recreational fishers and the ecosystem that has led past Ministers to reduce the catch.So others have said like LegaSea that these pre-set decision rules—and it was an attempt by the industry to get them smuggled into a bill which is primarily about landing and discards improving reporting and enabling the introduction of cameras. So this is within the scope of the Minister to do. I think it allows a lot more measured consideration. As one National member said last night "The whole bill does create more complexity." And taking these pre-set decision rules out there's already quite significant changes in the bill which will take the industry a while to get used to. We can do this and the Minister's decision with this SOP 257 is responding to a lot of submissions which were expressing considerable apprehension about these rules. So we won't be supporting National's motion."
Kuriger Barbara; O'Connor GregBARBARA KURIGER (National—Taranaki - King Country): Thank you Mr Speaker. I rise this afternoon in support of the instruction moved by my colleague Todd Muller for the primary producers of New Zealand. Now we've just completed the reading of a bill which I thought was one of the biggest shams of the Primary Production Committee process and that was the animal welfare ban of live exports bill. And this is in no way criticising the chair or the members of that committee who worked very collegially but those submitters came in one after the other after the other actually thinking that they were making submissions that may change the Government's mind on the ban.Now we stand up here just having finished that having gone through an amazing select committee process. It's all very confusing as Dr Duncan Webb was talking before about my passion for cows". I've been on a real 101 of fishing. This has been a real dilemma for the fishermen because this is actually about imposing regimes and penalties for fish that they really don't want to catch in the first place and unfortunately it's caught as part of the process. And day after day after day those fishermen came in really concerned about where this was going to end up. This was actually one of the main topics of discussion throughout the bill and this is an even worse process than the last one we went through on the animal welfare ban of live exports because these submitters also came in and thought they were contributing to adding to this bill and then as my colleagues have said after the reading we come in here this afternoon and the Minister decides to put up a Supplementary Order Paper and actually change the face of what these good-faith submitters had put in front of them. So it's clear on this side of the House: support my colleague's instruction. This is bad practice and bad faith with the primary producers of New Zealand. Thank you.DEPUTY SPEAKER: Just members note that this is a relatively narrow debate and that members are entitled to speak on it; however if the debate does become repetitive with the same points then as Chair I'll be looking for some closure."
Cameron MarkMARK CAMERON (ACT): ACT supports the National Party's motion to raise the alarm bells over everything to do with this piece of legislation being basically struck off the record. The pre-set decision rules as framed were tantamount to good outcome. As the member Mr Muller rightly alluded to we had multiple submissions hundreds of submissions dozens and dozens of verbal submissions and they all spoke to the importance of pre-set decision rules for not only iwi for especially the coastal fisheries and the deep water fleet. Even the recreational sector had concurred that pre-set decision rules were tantamount to a good outcome. So the ACT Party absolutely supports the National Party in moving this motion.
Henderson EmilyDr EMILY HENDERSON (Labour—Whangārei): 谢谢 Mr Speaker. So enthusiastic am I to commend this bill to the House that I was somewhat ahead of myself earlier and I do apologise. I first want to thank the Minister for bringing this important piece of work to the House. Charities are a significant feature of our lives and in particular in the mental health sector. From my early teens I grew up in the back room of one such charity—the Miriam Centre a child and family abuse centre set up in Whangārei by my mum. Over the years I have watched the complexity of regulatory demands on charities often taxing and stretching people already stretching to cover the needs of the people they are there to serve. Simplicity and ease of operation is key to ensuring that charities can do their vital work with confidence. I am looking forward to reviewing and strengthening the bill as part of the Social Services and Community Committee a committee which has within it already considerable personal and professional experience of charities as described by Angie Warren-Clark and Terisa Ngobi before me. I would strongly encourage the public and the charity sector to have their say even if that means personally. Select committee hearings will for me turn into Bring Your Mum to Work Day". I commend this bill to the House."
Webb DuncanDr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour—Christchurch Central): Mr Speaker thank you—it's so competitive on this side of the House. We're so keen to speak on this legislation to improve charities. I was particularly interested in Mr McKelvie's view that there are some charities out there that shouldn't be charities. I found that interesting but certainly I think I would share the sentiment that there are some organisations of charitable status out there that need to examine their behaviours and make sure they're acting consistently with their charitable purposes. Sometimes an organisation can lose sight of those charitable purposes in the hurly-burly of delivering services that may be not-for-profit but really we've got to make sure that charities have the tools at their disposal and the structures and understanding of how the law's supposed to work so that that they can constantly review their behaviours against appropriate standards in the charitable sector. And that's one of the big changes that this bill makes.Now obviously it's disappointing that the National Party hasn't chosen to support this bill but I'm sure they'll be constructive when they come to the select committee and bring their expertise in this sector from across the country. It is important that we get as much scrutiny of this bill as possible so that we can strengthen this important sector of our community. Kia ora Mr Speaker.
Kanongata'a AnahilaANAHILA KANONGATA'A-SUISUIKI (Labour): 谢谢 Mr Speaker. It's an honour and a privilege to stand to make a contribution to the Charities Amendment Bill. I want to acknowledge the Minister Priyanca Radhakrishnan for her contribution and in doing so I want to acknowledge where she had said there are over 28000 registered charities here in Aotearoa. Last year it was reported that the equivalent of more than 145000 people were working full time in the charitable sector. On top of that close to 50 percent of all New Zealanders volunteer either in an organisation or directly in the community. So I want to along with the Minister echo acknowledgment of everyone in the sector who is doing really great work.The bill: this bill keeps the current registration reporting and monitoring framework of the Act intact because these fundamental aspects are sound. However the changes—the bill makes practical improvements in reporting requirements for small charities the appeals framework governance requirements and regulatory decision-making and compliance tools. It will ensure the legal settings are up to date fit for purpose and will support charities to get on with their important work while also safeguarding public trust and confidence in the sector.One of the most significant changes of this bill is introducing a new appeal body for the charities. So this authority will be faster less formal and cheaper than the High Court. Charities can represent themselves which reduces legal costs and they will have two months to launch an appeal rather than the current 20 working days.Along with the Minister I urge all the charitable trusts and community organisations to please submit to the select committee particularly the P.A.C.I.F.I.C.A. Inc. women's group and all the churches out there. Thank you for your work. I commend this bill to the House. Mālō Mr Speaker.
McDowall JamesDr JAMES McDOWALL (ACT): Thank you Mr Speaker. It's a pleasure to rise on behalf of ACT to make a very short call on this just to make some comments. As someone who's been involved with charities over the past—and the present—I can definitely see the logic and the reasoning for a bit more trust in those smaller charities and to ease the regulatory burden. Generally less regulation can be a good thing—although one thing the select committee is going to have to look at is the potential for unintended consequences with this with the smaller charities shifting from one side of the fence to the other so definitely some things there.I'll also use this opportunity just to acknowledge the many charities throughout New Zealand who were absolutely hammered by lockdown—and in terms of the fiscal impact the organisational impact and the effectiveness that was a very very tough time for them.So as others have canvassed for smaller charities this bill pushes for a simpler reporting framework. It provides a better appeal process with a separate tribunal. And I think unlike our friends in the National Party our position is that we would like to see this go to select committee so we will be supporting it because we'll be very interested to hear what stakeholders think about this and then we will assess our position from there.I acknowledge others' feedback that this is based on what the scope could have been—what it could've done for charities—probably not quite there but in terms of the significance that is something that we can work out in select committee I hope. So with that—as I said it'll be short—I commend the bill to the House.
Ngobi TerisaTERISA NGOBI (Labour—Ōtaki): 大家好。 Talofa Mr Speaker. It's always a privilege and an honour to speak in the House not only as a member of the beautiful Ōtaki electorate but also as a member of the Social Services and Community Committee who will see this the Charities Amendment Bill—Hon Member: Hard-working committee.TERISA NGOBI: Yes very hard-working committee absolutely. We know that this bill makes practical changes to support charities to continue their vital contribution to community wellbeing while also ensuring that contribution is sufficiently transparent to the public as well. I want to actually talk about some of the experience I have in this space. Having worked as a contract manager for Oranga Tamariki supporting NGOs and charities through their contracting work not only through what their contract looks like not only through getting them more money—because we know that charities are run on the smell of an oily rag and lots of awesome volunteers—but also reporting on their contract obligations. And generally like I said they manage to do that and do such a great job in our communities supporting our people with little to nothing in the kitty to do that with. I also worked on the other side of that. I've worked as a volunteer and in the charities space with NGOs as well and I know there's nothing more frustrating than being bogged down with mountains of paperwork—and the cost of that—when you know that you're already under-resourced and trying to support your community. On top of that instead of being out there supporting your community you're having to write these lengthy reports often and also finding the money and time to do that. So instead of having to do that the proposed changes in this bill will mean that for very small charities that will change. No longer will they be bogged down with mountains of paperwork and the costs of that; they can go out there they can support our children they can support our families and they can support our elderly and do the work that they're really good at doing. So for that reason I commend this bill to the House.
Warren-Clark AngieANGIE WARREN-CLARK (Labour): Thank you Mr Speaker. It's a great pleasure to speak on the Charities Amendment Bill. I want to acknowledge the Minister the Hon Priyanca Radhakrishnan who has brought this piece of legislation to the House both for her service to this country—working in many charities in the work she's done prior to coming to Parliament—and also for progressing the bill today.I am really delighted having operated and run a charity myself—Tauranga Women's Refuge—for a number of years. I had the experience of having to go and speak to Admin & Accounting Solutions in Tauranga who were our bookkeepers the people who cared for us and worked for charities in a really good way. They helped me file for what was a very small amount of money that we were responsible for. It was a large process and of course now this Government has funded Women's Refuge in a different way and so of course they will have a lot more compliance and they rightly should because this Government has given that money to them.Anyway charities are very important and this bill very briefly is going to alter the primary legislation by making practical changes to support charities to continue their vital contributions—and some of us still volunteer our time. It reduces the compliance of small charities. It improves the process for charities to object to decisions. It requires the regulators to publish those decisions and consult with the sector on guidance. There is enhanced transparency fairness and accountability of the regulatory decision-making process.I am hopeful that the sector fully engages. I look forward to working across the House and with many from the community in regards to this piece of legislation. I'm very pleased the bill is coming to the Social Services and Community Committee. I commend the bill to the House.
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Rurawhe AdrianPETITIONS PAPERS SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLSSPEAKER: A petition has been delivered to the Clerk for presentation.CLERK: Petition of The Hashtags requesting that the House restrict the sale of vaping products to licensed R18 specialist vape retailers and develop proximity and density limits.SPEAKER: That petition stands referred to the Petitions Committee. Ministers have delivered papers.CLERK: International Labour Organization Report of the New Zealand Government Delegates to the 110th session of the International Labour Conference Geneva 27 May to 11 June 2022Television New Zealand annual report for the financial year 2022 and statement of performance expectations for the year ending 30 June 2023.SPEAKER: I present the following reports of the Ombudsman Ready or not? A report on the public sector the OIA and the pandemic; and OIA compliance and practice in:Te Mana Ārai o Aotearoa New Zealand Customs ServiceAra Poutama Aotearoa Department of CorrectionsTe Kaporeihana Āwhina Hunga Whara Accident Compensation CorporationTe Manatū Whakahiato Ora Ministry of Social DevelopmentTe Manatū Waka Ministry of TransportTe Ope Kātua o Aotearoa New Zealand Defence ForceWaka Kotahi NZ Transport AgencyTe Kawa Mataaho Public Service CommissionTe Tāhuhu o te Mātauranga Ministry of EducationTe Tāhū o te Ture Ministry of Justice Manatū Aorere Ministry of Foreign Affairs and TradeManatū Hauora Ministry of Health.Those papers are published under the authority of the House. No select committee reports have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. No bills have been introduced.
Rurawhe AdrianVISITORSAustralia—New South Wales Legislative AssemblySPEAKER: I'm sure that members would wish to welcome Mr Phil Donato a member of the New South Wales Legislative Assembly who is present in the gallery.
Rurawhe Adrian; Salesa JennyWEDNESDAY 28 SEPTEMBER 2022The Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.KARAKIA/PRAYERSSPEAKER: Members in celebration of Tuvaluan Language Week I've asked the Hon Jenny Salesa to say the prayer in the Tuvaluan language.Hon JENNY SALESA (Assistant Speaker): Te Atua tafasili i te maluga e fakafetai atu matou mo au fakamanuiaga ki luga ia matou. Ko fakatafa ne matou a omotou manakoga totino katoa manatua ne matou te motou Tupu kae talo atu matou ke takitaki ne koe a omotou titiga manatu ko te mea ke fai ne matou a tiute o te fale tenei i te atamai fai mea tonu alofa kae atafai mo te 'lei kae filemu o Niu Sila. Amene.
Tuesday 27 September 2022 (continued on Wednesday 28 September 2022) - Volume 763
Screen Industry Workers Bill — Third Reading
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Screen Industry Workers Bill be now read a third time.Ayes 77New Zealand Labour 64; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Sharma.Noes 43New Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.Motion agreed to.Bill read a third time.
VoteA party vote was called for on the question That the Fisheries Amendment Bill be now read a second time.Ayes 110New Zealand Labour 64; New Zealand National 33; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati Māori 2; Sharma.Noes 10ACT New Zealand 10. Motion agreed to.Bill read a second time.
Fisheries Amendment Bill — Second Reading
Lewis Steph; O'Connor GregSTEPH LEWIS (Labour—Whanganui): It is my pleasure to rise and take a call on this bill. I want to thank the Minister for his leadership in this space particularly because what we know from the evidence coming in from overseas that the markets we export to—the markets our farmers and food and fibre sector producers are reliant on—want to see that we are maintaining the highest standards in the world. So that is why this bill is important because what those markets that our farmers are reliant on have said to us is: We don't want to import your food if you cannot hand on heart produce evidence showing that you are leading the way in animal welfare." and our export markets are saying that this isn't up to standard any more. We've heard from the Opposition that there's this gold standard and yet the submitters who submitted to us couldn't even agree on what a gold standard looks like. They pointed out that a lot of the boats that are used for exporting overseas are retrofitted. They're not fit for purpose they're not suitable and they do cause harm to the animals. Even if we didn't pull out and try and put the pressure on to increase standards they couldn't assure us that the other countries wouldn't come in and undercut us anyway. So we need to be leaders in this space set the bar high and say that we are not prepared to put our animals at risk any more. Our farmers will continue to be supported and they will continue to be world leaders and I back them and our export markets. That's why I commend this bill to the House.DEPUTY SPEAKER: This debate is interrupted and is set down for resumption next sitting day. The House stands adjourned until 2 p.m. today. Debate interrupted.The House adjourned at 12.55 p.m. (Wednesday)"
Luxton JoJO LUXTON (Labour—Rangitata): Thank you Mr Speaker. I'm pleased to take a call on this piece of legislation as the chair of the Primary Production Committee who oversaw the submissions to this bill. Can I just acknowledge my fellow select committee members; we work very well together as a select committee. But this is one piece of legislation where although we worked well together we did not necessarily agree on the outcome of it. It is true as the previous speaker Tim van de Molen has said we heard a wide-ranging view of opinions from submitters—some in support some against. But there is no doubt that some of the things that we saw and heard were absolutely horrific. And whilst many of those involved in the live export business do their best to ensure that the animals are kept in hygienic and good standards that is not true for all. So there is no denying that some of the things we saw when animals particularly—whilst there may not have been many deaths there is certainly a lot of suffering that goes on. Especially as animals cross that equator and the heat the noise the lack of fresh air—some of what we heard was pretty pretty awful.It is also true obviously this afternoon we heard from the Minister who talked about the fact that other countries are now starting to have these conversations and consider whether this is legislation that they should think about bringing in. And so I say to the House today this is actually also about us as a country with the world's best farmers here in New Zealand showing leadership. So we're not fast followers; we are leaders. I think that's very very important particularly when it comes to our trade opportunities. We have consumers around the world who are becoming more and more focused and interested in where their food comes from how it is grown how it is kept the labour that goes in behind rearing food etc.—growing food. So I have no hesitation in absolutely commending this bill to the House.
Parker DavidInstruction to Governance and Administration CommitteeHon DAVID PARKER (Minister for the Environment) on behalf of the Minister of Internal Affairs: I move That the Fire and Emergency New Zealand (Levy) Amendment Bill be reported to the House by 16 February 2023. Motion agreed to.
Rosewarne Dan; O'Connor GregDAN ROSEWARNE (Labour): Kia ora Mr Speaker. It is my pleasure to take this last call on the first reading of the Fire and Emergency New Zealand (Levy) Amendment Bill. As we all know the insurance companies and brokers collect the levy from the policyholders and they pay it to Fire and Emergency New Zealand (FENZ). The levy is the primary way in which FENZ's activities are funded. Since the principal Act was enacted further information has become available on the implementation of the levy and how the existing Part 3 levy will likely be applied in practice. Without amendment the existing Part 3 provisions are likely to create a bit of complexity and uncertainty and this will lead to implementation and admin costs as well as making levy calculations less predictable and stable for FENZ the insurance sector and also policyholders as well. So it's worth noting that the changes in the way that the levy is collected will not reduce the amount that is collected. As this is the final call I would like to extend our thanks to the Insurance Council of New Zealand the Insurance Brokers Association of New Zealand and the Property Council of New Zealand as well as FENZ who provided some fantastic feedback in the exposure draft. So I commend this bill to the House.Motion agreed to.Bill read a first time.DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is That the Fire and Emergency New Zealand (Levy) Amendment Bill be considered by the Governance and Administration Committee. Motion agreed to.Bill referred to the Governance and Administration Committee.
Leary IngridINGRID LEARY (Labour—Taieri): I'd just like to add to the comments of my colleague Dr Duncan Webb because although it's only ACT that has this extreme view about privatising the fire service can you imagine what a National-ACT coalition might have to do in their agreements and what kind of privatisation deals we'll get: will it be the Police will it be the prisons will it be the schools?Look many years ago I did a TV series following firefighters around. I'd just like to add my gratitude for the incredible work that they do not only at the scenes of fires but also car accidents and other harrowing situations. I'd like to acknowledge them today because there are firefighters who have joined the defence conference next door in the Grand Hall looking at issues of equity and gender. So they really are making some strides in the way that they are managing some of their cultural shifts. Today I'm wearing a pin called the huia pin which is actually a Police pin which is around Police Remembrance Day which is tomorrow. I'd like to also acknowledge firefighters as well because we know that many of them have workplace risks around smoke inhalation and so on. So I'm just thinking about all those who serve on the front line and add my gratitude.I can't believe Todd Muller would think that this Government was lazy and not steaming ahead. MinterEllisonRuddWatts said in 2017 that they acknowledge this Government for listening and not persevering with a regime that wasn't going to work. I quote from an article they published: the Government is to be commended for acknowledging the unintended consequences of the change and abandoning it rather than trying to salvage it with complex carve-outs and other measures which might have been more politically expedient but would have been risky and inefficient." That is the reason for the delay. The devil was in the detail as the article says. I'm not going to go into the complexities but this piece of work that we have in front of us today has taken all of that thinking and listening into account in a timely way. I support the bill and I'm really pleased that we've got to the place we have."
Webb DuncanDr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour—Christchurch Central): Thank you Madam Speaker. I'm very happy to stand in support of this bill which is really just clarifying and improving the way levies are collected and set in the fire and emergency sector. Firstly I was astounded to hear the ACT Party suggest that we should privatise the fire service of all things. I'm glad that it is the only party I'm sure with such an extreme view. One of our most important services and they would throw it on to the private sector. In fact that's where it originally came from and the fire engines would go along and look to see whether there was an insurance plaque on the house that was burning and they'd only put it out if it had been insured. We soon worked out that that wasn't a good way to protect cities from huge fires which would ravage—we saw the public interest in a fire service. But I just actually really wanted to touch on the commencement date because there's been some suggestion that this is you know in some way dilatory. But in fact it's the insurance sector that's asked for this. There's three things; first of all this bill's going to come back to this House next year and be passed in the first half of the year; then of course regulations will need to be set under the Act in light of the legislation; and then the insurance industry will need to put in place the appropriate computer programmes and what have you to collect the levy in accordance with those new rules. So in fact 1 July 2026 is not that far away given that time line entirely appropriate. That's why that commencement date's been put in there.Good to see that this bill will be supported through this reading.
Ngobi Terisa; Dean JacquiTERISA NGOBI (Labour—Ōtaki): 大家好 and talofa Madam Speaker. As we've heard the Fire and Emergency New Zealand (Levy) Amendment Bill will ensure changes to the levy framework that will ensure the collection of the Fire and Emergency New Zealand (FENZ) levy is simple and easy to administrate. It will reduce the extra costs and disruption to the system while adhering to the funding principles set out in section 80 of the Fire and Emergency New Zealand Act 2017. While this bill changes the way the levy is collected it does not change the amount that is collected. So it will not increase or decrease the funding to FENZ. This is an important piece of legislation. Really happy to support it but before I finish my contribution I want to say thank you to the firefighters in the Ōtaki electorate up and down the coast many who I know but a special shout-out to William Watters a firefighter in Christchurch who is my brother. We're very proud of you. Thank you for your service for your sacrifice and to all the FENZ workers out there thank you very much.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): I call Joseph Mooney—five minutes.
Strange JamieJAMIE STRANGE (Labour—Hamilton East): What a negative speech we've heard for the past 10 minutes. I feel sorry for people who are listening at home or who are up in the gallery listening to that 10 minutes of negativity. That's just an example of where the National Party is at at the moment.We are a Government that is getting on with doing good work for people in New Zealand and we hear speeches like that—just negative going on and on.Matt Doocey: Have you been to a fire station?JAMIE STRANGE: I'm sure that if John Key were listening at home he would be incredibly disappointed with the state of the National Party at the moment because he was a pretty positive person when he was Prime Minister. And to answer the member's question yes I have visited a fire station—in the past six weeks—and I acknowledge the work that they all do there.I'm not going to take too long because the Minister clearly outlined what's in this bill. It's an important piece of legislation. I acknowledge the Minister Jan Tinetti and as a member of the Governance and Administration Committee I look forward to welcoming this bill if this passes in the House. Thank you.
Chen NaisiNAISI CHEN (Labour): Thank you Madam Speaker. As a member of the Governance and Administration Committee we welcome this bill to our select committee. This is a great bill. We're looking at increasing efficiency making sure that the way that we collect levies for our fire services is improved so that we can actually save money and produce efficiencies. I think there was a bit of a contradiction from the last member who has just resumed his seat Todd Muller in terms of whether he wants efficiency through this bill or not. This is a bill where I think we have to look at how we collect the levy and not what we're collecting so this is just one of the things where we have to tweak the process of it. In this process we've worked really closely with the insurance sector as well. So that's why we're about to propose that this is a four-month report back as well just to make sure that everything is on time and everything is efficient. So to the spirit of this bill I commend it to the House.
Roberts AngelaANGELA ROBERTS (Labour): It is an absolute privilege to be the last speaker to take a call on this significant little bill the Screen Industry Workers Bill. I just want to start by acknowledging the Hon Iain Lees-Galloway who has joined us and who of course brought this bill to the House. There have been many who have been mentioned since who have worked on it. I've taught many creative bright intelligent committed and hard-working students young people in school and community theatre and they wanted to join and become a part of the screen industry. The other side are always talking about you know being happy to bask in the glory of our international success but they're also clear that the workers in that industry should be grateful to be a part of it. And that's right—they are grateful to be a part of it. But therein lies the power imbalance and therein lies the injustice: that has led to poor conditions and poor pay for some of our contractors" in the industry.I can remember many hundreds of years ago when I was a student myself and was considering going into theatre and my mother very wisely said to me there is nothing romantic about starving in a garret. I'm really pleased that if I was in the classroom I would no longer have to give that advice to my students—that I know that they are going to be safe they're going to have their mana intact in being a part of this. The industry wants this. The Film Industry Working Group developed the solution. They understand that this is our place and that it is our people that make us internationally competitive. It ain't the price we pay for our people; it's our people that make us internationally competitive and successful. Thank goodness the creatives got together to find the solution. They are absolutely fundamentally collaborative and innovative and they came up with things—oh my goodness it was different and new. Apparently according to the other side that is not something to be cherished. They wanted something meaningful and modern. Well actually that's exactly what this bill has delivered—that is exactly what this bill delivered. This bill is for our young people our young creatives who are going to continue to build on our international success and be creative internationally. I commend this bill to the House."
Luxton JoJO LUXTON (Labour—Rangitata): Thank you Madam Speaker. I'm really pleased to stand and take a call on this piece of legislation the Screen Industry Workers Bill. I am a business owner and I employ staff and I'm not from a union background but I can see that benefit absolutely of ensuring that those people who work as employees or as contractors have a voice.This bill simply gives people who are contractors in the screen industry a voice and rights that they have not had previously. My colleague Camilla Belich talked about her experience as an employment lawyer and she herself said that when people from the screen industry came to see her because of issues they were having she could not help them because they had no rights. Why is the National Party so fundamentally against giving good honest working people basic rights that protect them from sexual harassment bullying and give them basic wage entitlements and sick leave entitlements? I don't understand why that party is so against looking after the working people of New Zealand. I commend this bill to the House.
Edmonds BarbaraBARBARA EDMONDS (Labour—Mana): 谢谢Madam Speaker. Again some grace will be given to the member that's just sat down Sam Uffindell because this bill has been before the House during a period where the member—anyway we'll stop there.But what I wanted to say is that Wellington is not the only place in New Zealand that is the centre of the film industry for New Zealand. Queenstown is a lovely great place to have film but actually one that is closer to home in my electorate of Mana is Kāpiti. Currently in Kāpiti we have a budding screen industry that's growing there. And I want to acknowledge Ryan Cole who is from Raumati who just won an Emmy for Outstanding Sound Editing for a Comedy or Drama Series (One Hour) - 2022 for his work on Stranger Things. He had done that sound editing from his home. He had done that as a New Zealander based here in Kāpiti still working for an international company because he has that ability.There's also another budding screen industry worker from Raumati and she's currently working on the Indiana Jones movies. She is currently in Los Angeles at the moment working on that film—again based here in New Zealand working there. But the interesting thing about this is she is the union rep. She is waiting for this bill to get through because she absolutely agrees with this bill. We've been working together to make sure that what she wants to look at for the part of this bill that she clearly understands it so that when it is enacted she knows how to support her members who will have a choice—and again who will have a choice and are contractors—to join a union.So therefore I don't have much further to say. I thank the Education and Workforce Committee and the Minister for the work that they did on this bill and I commend this bill to the House.
Omer Ibrahim; Salesa JennyIBRAHIM OMER (Labour): Thank you Madam Speaker. Happy to take a call on the Screen Industry Workers Bill. The previous speaker Chris Baillie was in the Education and Workforce Committee throughout the process and throughout his speech he was referring to employees but this bill is about contractors and that's two different things.All the speeches from the Opposition MPs were just a rant—anti-worker rant anti-union rant—there was no substance; there was nothing. And what a shame. This bill aims to create a workplace relations regime for contractors in the screen industry. It simply provides certainty about the employment status of screen production workers. In 2010 the Employment Relations Act 2000 was amended to remove film production workers from its definition of an employee". By doing so it took away all their basic rights such as getting paid minimum wage and bargaining collectively. This was a gross injustice that needed to be rectified and this is exactly what this bill intends to do. This bill does a few things but mainly restores the mana and dignity of the screen industry workers. It introduces a duty of good faith for workplace relations—for example between contractors and their engagers. It creates a two-tiered collective bargaining framework allowing bargaining to occur across occupational groups or within enterprises. It simply restores the occupational-level bargaining enterprise-level bargaining and dispute resolution. This bill is important because it delivers on a commitment to restore collective bargaining rights for film production workers. It's the rights which were removed when the previous Government legislated under urgency what is known as the "Hobbit law". This bill is all about righting the wrongs and I commend it to the House.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): The next call is a split call. I call on Sam Uffindell—five minutes."
Belich CamillaCAMILLA BELICH (Labour): Thank you Madam Speaker. This is a proud day today to be in the House to right what is a significant wrong that was implemented by the last National Government. The last speaker Scott Simpson—I disagreed with his entire speech. He seemed to have not noticed the fact that the contractor status of screen industry workers is maintained by this particular legislation as agreed by the Film Industry Working Group. He was also wrong about Kris Faafoi being the last Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety and he's wrong about what this bill does and what the importance of this bill is. His colleague Paul Goldsmith said What is the crisis?" I'll tell you what the crisis is. I worked as an employment lawyer and I had people in the screen industry come to me while this legislation was in force and I had to say to them there is nothing I can do for you—there is nothing I can do for you—because regardless of the true nature of your job you are treated as a contractor and you have no rights. That is a crisis and that is important to New Zealanders and that is why it's so important that we pass this Screen Industry Workers Bill today and return the dignity and mana to this incredibly important industry of creative individuals that bring so much joy and so much culture to our country—such an important industry.I just want to briefly reflect—I wanted to be quite hopeful with this speech because we've done quite a lot of work in this area and we have gone through what happened under the last National Government at length in the second reading. So I wanted to talk a little bit about ex - Council of Trade Unions president Helen Kelly and the involvement that she had during this dispute. This was a horrible experience that she had to go through for standing up for the fundamental rights of an industry. The Government came in—at the time the National Government—and took away the employment rights of an entire industry. No select committee process no consultation—they had nothing. She stood up with them. She was vilified. She was told that she was being unpatriotic. She said at the time it was outrageous that the Government removed workers' rights in the way that they did. I agree and that's why I commend this bill to the House."
Lubeck MarjaMARJA LUBECK (Labour): Thank you Madam Speaker. You've just go to love it when the Opposition talks about rushing through legislation and pushing through laws and bills when in fact this particular bill reverses the fundamental employment protections that the National Government in 2010 took away from workers in the screen industry. They took away fundamental rights which are recognised all through international law to bargain collectively. So that's the hypocrisy of the Opposition for you.They're also out of touch with the extensive process that this bill went through from the start. The screen industry was completely involved. They came up with practical solutions that actually would restore their workers' rights as well as at the same time still reflecting the needs of the industry. This bill implements unanimously agreed recommendations from the Film Industry Working Group which consists of industry guilds the dreaded union" word production companies the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions and Business New Zealand. The only party here in this argument that is not agreeing to this bill is the National Party. Every other stakeholder has said as it says in our department report "We don't support the status quo." Every submitter has not supported the status quo. It's only the National Party who doesn't want this bill to get through. What this bill does is basically reinstate the right for workers to get together to talk about protections to have minimum wage protections to be protected from bullying to have their holidays to have their health and safety.And just one more comment: when Mr Paul Goldsmith said "Why on earth are we doing it?" I remember in his second reading speech he said the industry is in increasingly good shape. Well this is the shape it's in: median monthly earnings for contractors versus workers have just gone down—have gone down down down. The top rate now was the bottom rate 20 years ago. That's the shape the industry is in. That's why we're making these changes and the real danger actually of the National Party not agreeing to this bill is that the certainty this bill brings which the industry needs is actually undermined by the National Party being the only stakeholder in this process not agreeing to this bill. I commend it to the House."
Kanongata'a AnahilaANAHILA KANONGATA'A-SUISUIKI (Labour): 谢谢.Talofa e te Mana Whakawā. Always an honour and a privilege to stand to make a contribution in this House and in this case the Fisheries Amendment Bill. I would like to acknowledge Minister Parker for his leadership in shepherding one of many important bills into the House. I hear that it was bipartisan select committee so I'd like to acknowledge the leadership of Jo Luxton in chairing this committee. I want to thank the submitters for all their submissions into this bill. Can I remind the House that this Fisheries Amendment Bill would amend the Fisheries Act 1996 and that the amendments proposed will modernise and strengthen the New Zealand fisheries management system. The bill would do five things. It will empower the Minister for Oceans and Fisheries to establish pre-set decision rules for sustainable measures. Secondly it would amend the commercial fishing rules related to the landing and returning of fish and empower the Minister to require or permit fish to be returned to sea. It will introduce a graduated offences and penalties regime and lastly it will extend the requirements for the use of on-board camera monitoring to include fishing and fishing-related activities including sorting processing and discarding of fish.My favourite catch of this bill is in Part 1 clause 4 amending section 2(1) where it is about the substantive provisions and it talks about what actually would happen about the returning of the fish how cameras would be installed and how data would then be reviewed after it has captured. I don't want this to be the one that gets away let's reel it in. I commend this bill to the House. Mālō.
Coffey TāmatiTĀMATI COFFEY (Labour): Thank you Madam Speaker. It seems as though everybody in this House has got a sustainability story when it comes to our fishing stocks and I just want to reminisce about the time that I went to the Chatham Islands with my good colleague Paul Eagle. It is in his electorate and we got the privilege of going over there. What I found was that whilst the rocks were flush with pāua and the space around the island was filled with crayfish actually they used to have a booming scallop industry there. The scallops are long gone from the area and they are poorer for that—poorer because they've realised that actually they didn't manage the sustainability of the scallop stocks around the Chatham Islands and now they're a distant memory. So everything that we do has to be set up around the sustainability of our fisheries. It is a grave concern. We do have climate change—it has arrived—as well. The industry is under increased scrutiny. So we need to make sure that we're doing the best that we possibly can for the sustainability of our fish stocks if we want them to last on into the future and if we don't want to have more stories like the scallop industry or lack of in the Chatham Islands.This Fisheries Amendment Bill is a really good bill that brings all of those settings into the new age. This isn't the end though. We're going to have to keep adjusting the settings when it comes to the sustainability of our fishing stocks now and into the future. So I commend it to the House.
Warren-Clark AngieANGIE WARREN-CLARK (Labour): 谢谢 Madam Speaker. It's a great pleasure to stand and talk on the Fisheries Amendment Bill—not a select committee that I've sat on in terms of the legislation but I have kept a real interest.I wanted to just start by correcting the record in terms of when we talk about fisheries and people out fishing the easiest term is fisher". So that's for those of us women who fish and there are many in the industry out there. So that's just a clarification; let's try and use non-sexist language in the House.So secondly I'd also just like to talk on one particular part in terms of the catch. Basically what this bill is looking to do is around selective targeting. It's incentivising and supporting our fishers out there to use better methods to catch fish. Now this small fisher that we know is using the technology or using fishing technology that really supports a sustainable catch method because they cannot afford the large parts of technology out there. So this piece of legislation will hopefully change the way that we move about.It is also really important that we think about fish in the context of the world. Recently I was in Malaysia and I looked at the type of fish that that country eats. Never underestimate what fish we have and can eat in this country. I think that that's where the secondary market comes in and I think that this is about change to an ecosystem model as opposed to a high-grade model where we just take a very selective amount of fish mouli up the rest and throw it over the side. I commend this bill to the House."