Utikere TangiTANGI UTIKERE (Labour—Palmerston North): Thank you Mr Speaker. Noting that this is a five-minute call I'll take this in the hope that Mr McKelvie as the person whose name this bill is in may wish to speak a little bit longer than five minutes. So can I firstly acknowledge my parliamentary neighbour Mr McKelvie in terms of him having the bill drawn and working through the select committee process along with the members of the Governance and Administration Committee.I probably adopt a different view to that of Mr O'Connor in terms of the report that has come back to the House because I think what the select committee has done—and I know the Governance and Administration Committee is a hard-working one—is that they have made the bill in their mind a more workable one. And given that this is a matter of conscience they've landed at a point where they have sent it back to the House so that members can continue to exercise their own conscience without having a particular view expressed. So having said that that is a point of difference between myself and Mr O'Connor.I probably in terms of my experience have a bob each way on this. I spent four or five years as a deputy chair of my local district licensing committee so I know the elements of risk the various statutory reports that medical officers of health that liquor licensing inspectors and that the police do as part of that process. But I also spent more than 10 years working for the Judicial Control Authority for Racing which meant that I basically have visited every single racecourse throughout New Zealand including actually Maureen Pugh's one on the West Coast in Kūmara alongside Gore Winton Waimate—Maureen Pugh: Waimate?TANGI UTIKERE: Waimate—well I did see Ms Pugh at the Kūmara races when I was there—not as clerk of the scales however I think. But it means that I am familiar with a number of our rural and country racecourses. I think of places like Wairoa and Gisborne Waipukurau Gore and others and when I look at the submitters that have submitted in support I note that it also includes my own local harness racing club that of Manawatū. So this bill as I understand it makes clear that the clubs that would be eligible for this discretion to be exercised are not the intended target of section 235 of the Sale and Supply of Alcohol Act and that while these changes may not be necessarily welcomed by metropolitan clubs such as the Race Group which as Mr McKelvie knows represents a number of different clubs from Ashhurst Pohangina through to Fielding Manawatū and Marton and actually Wellington here at Trentham the changes that the select committee have put forward do limit it quite significantly in my mind to the number that is at a singular level. And so I don't see this as a move around the degradation of rural New Zealand. I see it as an acknowledgment that rural communities can come together and that race meetings are community opportunities for those communities to come together. So like my colleague Helen White this is my first contribution within a conscience debate. And having considered all of those factors I intend to support this bill this evening because I do know that rural communities who are involved in the running of race meetings up and down this country in my mind go a little bit the extra mile in terms of making sure that the arrangements are safe making sure that things are all sorted as opposed to metropolitan clubs who often they do a good job but they don't rely on that element of goodwill of volunteers. A number of the individuals are often paid so that is a point of difference. So I congratulate Mr McKelvie and I'm happy having considered all those things to lend my support to the bill.