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Hayes John: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHayes John: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15327. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JOHN HAYES (National—Wairarapa): Before I speak in support of this bill the Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill I would like to offer my colleague across the House Shane Jones the loan of a bow tie to gowith his dinner jacket that he is wearing here this afternoon. It is a slightly unusual time of the day to be wearing it but never mind.The other point I would like to make this afternoon is in respect of the comments from our Green colleague Russel Norman around capital gains tax. I want to say to the people of New Zealand that this is really good tax legislation and one thing it does not do is impose a capital gains tax on productive businesses and farms. That will not happen from the National Party.The third point I would like to make is that having a big gap between the company tax rate and the top personal income tax rate would only encourage tax avoidance. This bill sets up a structure that taxes everybody fairly and encourages people to pay their tax. I think that as a result of that it is a particularly good piece of legislation. Thank you. I support this bill.
Wilkinson Kate: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilkinson Kate: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15325. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon KATE WILKINSON (National—Waimakariri): I rise to take a very short call on the second reading of the Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill. Much has already been said about this bill and what is in it. I do not really need to repeat that. We have heard about the four main proposals. They relate to foreign superannuation to mining to amendments to ensure that the tax rules cater for the rebuilding activity now taking place in my home province of Canterbury and to the framework for company financial reports. This is a good bill and I commend it to the House.
Williams Andrew: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilliams Andrew: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15325. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]ANDREW WILLIAMS (NZ First): I take a call on behalf of New Zealand First on the Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill. New Zealand First will also be supporting this legislation through the House. It is basically an administrative bill in terms of tax in order to amend the Income Tax Act 2007 the Tax Administration Act 1994 and the KiwiSaver Act 2006. In so doing it replaces some existing tax rules for New Zealand residents with interests in foreign superannuation schemes. It also changes the tax rules relating to the mining of specified minerals clarifies the rules for Working for Families tax credits addresses a mismatch in the tax rules relating to imputation credits and Australian dividends refines the rules for the deductions available to holders of bad debt and also includes the granting of donee status to three charitable organisations. We are all in agreement with these being correct legislative changes to be passed.The bill proposes a much simpler regime for taxing New Zealand residents who receive foreign superannuation interests in their previous country of residence. The bill proposes a simple way for people to remedy their previous positions and start afresh under the new regime and a concessionary approach encourages them to do so.We also note that in terms of KiwiSaver there are proposed changes to the KiwiSaver Act 2006 to allow taxpayers who transfer from a foreign scheme to a KiwiSaver scheme to withdraw sufficient funds from the KiwiSaver scheme to pay the tax that arises on that transfer. Again that is a sensible thing to encourage those KiwiSaver funds back into the country. Also in terms of student loan obligations it allows a taxpayer to withdraw funds from KiwiSaver to cover their student loan repayment obligations arising from such a transfer as well as the tax obligation.Those are just a sampling of some of the things in this bill. There are a great many other facets to it but it is basically a good piece of legislation in terms of tidying up some of the tax aspects in particular to do with foreign superannuation and aligning us with many of our overseas partner countries. New Zealand First commends this bill to the House.
Barry Maggie: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — Second ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBarry Maggie: Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill — Second Reading[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15324. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore): I rise to speak on the second reading of the Taxation (Annual Rates Foreign Superannuation and Remedial Matters) Bill sponsored by our Minister of Revenue Todd McClay. We have known about the elements of this bill since the Budget; it was foreshadowed then. This is a bill that really protects the tax base and aims to make our tax system fairer and of course the economy stronger. Of course an important part of fairness in the tax system is that taxpayers understand it: that it is clear simple and transparent. They must be able to understand what the rules are if they are to comply with those rules. So it is necessary for the tax rules to be cohesive fair and applied consistently. This is a bill that does just that.There are a couple of elements that I would like to draw to the attention of the House in this call. They include the changes to the taxation on foreign superannuation. It is a very complex and traditionally very troubled area. People coming from different countries to New Zealand and New Zealanders returning home do not really understandwhat the implications are for their superannuation and the taxation around that. This is a bill that actually makes that much clearer.It also brings the tax treatment of mining of specified minerals—gold silver and ironsand in particular—into line with general business tax principles. There is—as you have gathered from listening to this debate this afternoon—widespread support for this bill. Even the Greens who typically never support very much that is going to make this a competitive and stronger economy have supported the bill. This is a bill that I certainly support and I commend it to the House. Thank you.
Tisch Lindsay: Speaker’s Statements — Retirement—Assistant Serjeant-at-Arms Alan HusheerText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTisch Lindsay: Speaker’s Statements — Retirement—Assistant Serjeant-at-Arms Alan Husheer[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15314. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Members there is another messenger who is retiring as well as Grant and that is the assistant Serjeant-at-Arms Alan Husheer. I should not refer to someone who is not in the House. He is not in the House at the moment but he is on the premises and he is going to be farewelled tonight along with Grant. Maybe the House would like to acknowledge him too.
Wilkinson Kate: Judicature Modernisation Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilkinson Kate: Judicature Modernisation Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15314. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon KATE WILKINSON (National—Waimakariri): Can I first take this opportunity to wish Grant Bamfield all the very best for his retirement. Some may not know that Grant used to be a scratch golfer. So Grant happy golfing and happy retirement. Who knows; maybe I will come and get some golfing lessons in my own retirement.In terms of the first reading of the Judicature Modernisation Bill I think this bill is exciting stuff. I used to be a lawyer for 26 years and to be given the opportunity to not only speak on this bill albeit briefly but actually be part of the Justice and Electoral Committee which is going to be scrutinising it I think is a fantastic opportunity to look at modernising our court systems to bring justice up to the 21st century. I will look forward to reading this bill over the next wee while and I will certainly look forward to the submissions and the scrutiny of the select committee. I have listened to the speeches. I have heard the Attorney-General raise references to clauses 93 161 and 162. They will get special scrutiny. I hope that at the end of this process an apolitical process we really will have a suite of justice bills that as a House we can be particularly proud of. I commend this bill to the House.Bill read a first time.Billreferred to the Justice and Electoral Committee.
Curran Clare: Judicature Modernisation Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCurran Clare: Judicature Modernisation Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15313. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CLARE CURRAN (Labour—Dunedin South): I will take a short call on this first reading of the Judicature Modernisation Bill. Labour supports this bill going to the Justice and Electoral Committee but can I just point out the irony of a piece of legislation that is 1182 pages long—here it is; I do not know how much it weighs but it is pretty difficult to carry—that has a part in it Part 5 devoted to making the courts system electronic and yet we have a bill that is 1182 pages long. I have to say that at the select committee it is going to be an interesting process to see just how feasible it actually is for that to occur particularly in light of this Government’s inability to manage its ultra-fast broadband scheme. If you cannot roll out ultra-fast broadband which is an extremely important programme—Labour is absolutely committed to fibre—without having a huge debacle which is what we have ended up with then how are you going to create a new system that is going to make the courts system run on an electronic system and move it away from a paper-based system?That is a pretty important point that we need to make given the current situation where day by day we have seen a new development happening that has seen the value ofChorus halved between this year and last year. We have seen three Ministers embroiled in a debacle that is essentially about a system of fibre that is going to underpin an electronic-based system for our judicial system—well supposedly going to—and we have seen the threat to legislate to overrule Commerce Commission decisions. We have seen that taken off the table. And then we have seen a report commissioned by a financial company that is then given a verbal report that is now used as the basis to go in to do a renegotiation. This is just going from one debacle to another debacle.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Order! We are not talking about that.CLARE CURRAN: It is a very big bill. It is a very big bill and it is a very big debacle. Certainly there will be select committee discussion on Part 5 of this bill which comprises the provisions where the documents used in the courts system are going to be transferred to an electronic system which is ultimately about bringing the courts system into modern times and cutting down on waste. That is what this bill is intending to do. It is a pretty significant part of the bill. It has a whole part devoted to it. This is a huge irony and I think it is important that we acknowledge that and that the select committee looks very closely at the Government’s ability to actually deliver on what it says it is going to do.
Ngaro Alfred: Judicature Modernisation Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNgaro Alfred: Judicature Modernisation Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15313. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]ALFRED NGARO (National): I do not rise to give an answer to that speech by Phil Goff. Rather than nitpicking I would rather lavish praise on a very good bill the Judicature Modernisation Bill which has a little bit of substance to it. May I first of all just acknowledge Grant Bamfield. Grant thank you very much. Your friendly smiley face has always been very important. I am sure you will have to go home now and do some of the domestic chores you have been avoiding.Like anything as you have said all good things come to an end and there is time for change. It is time for change for the Judicature Act 1908 with this bill. It is time to renew the Act. As the bill says it is about the modernisation of our courts system. I look forward to our time in the Justice and Electoral Committee with this bill—all 1182 pages of it. But I think more important is the opportunity to hear submissions and to thoroughly debate the critical issues of importance that are here. I do not have the wealth of knowledge or the legal experience but what I do have is an understanding of the systems. I think that this bill will help to ensure that we have a modern courts system. We had Andrew Bridgman who is the Secretary for Justice show us that we have a system that works very well and isfutureproofed as well. I cannot speak for very long—I had wished to—but I commend this bill to the House.
Robertson H V Ross: Speaker’s Statements — Retirement—Deputy Serjeant-at-Arms Grant BamfieldText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Speaker’s Statements — Retirement—Deputy Serjeant-at-Arms Grant Bamfield[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15311. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Just before I call the Hon Phil Goff I would just like to advise the House that today will be the last day in the House for Grant Bamfield sitting here on my right as he is retiring.
Simpson Scott: Judicature Modernisation Bill — First ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSimpson Scott: Judicature Modernisation Bill — First Reading[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15310. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): As chairman of the Justice and Electoral Committee it is a pleasure to rise to take a brief call on the first reading of the Judicature Modernisation Bill which by any measure is a weighty piece of legislation. In 1907 New Zealand became a self-governing dominion and that meant that in the following year 1908 we had passing through Parliament an enormous amount of legislation much of it forming the very cornerstones and foundations of our civil government. Amongst it was the 1908 Judicature Act and it has served us all those years for over a century. It has never actually been completely reviewed in the past. It has been tinkered with a few times but never completely reviewed. So it is a great pleasure I think to be sitting on the Justice and Electoral Committee when the Minister of Justice brings to the House this piece of legislation which will modernise our court system and see us through the next 100 years with the same kind of effectiveness that we have had from the previous legislation.I took particular note of the Attorney-General’s contribution earlier on in the debate when he mentioned that the committee would want to focus on several clauses in the bill. Although it is a very weighty piece of legislation clause 93 which deals with the judicial appointment process and exactly how the Attorney-General explains his process for appointment will be a matter that the committee wants to pay attention to. The area of vexatious litigants is a matter of increasing concern as they increase in numbers and clog our court system. Clauses 162 to 165 address the area of concern relating to vexatious litigants and I for one will be very keen to spend some time focusing on those clauses. Clause 166 deals with reserve judgments and the timeliness of the delivery of those judgments. That has been a topical matter in recent times. And then there are therecusal rules which will be another area that the committee will want to look at closely.I am looking forward to reading the legislation in great detail over the summer adjournment and coming back to the committee with a full and intimate understanding of its minute detail. I commend it to the House.Debate interrupted.
Carter David: Points of Order — Voting—Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) BillText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeCarter David: Points of Order — Voting—Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15299. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr SPEAKER: Order! I am fully aware that there was no vote taken. Leave is now sought to effectively amend that record. So leave is sought as read by Barbara Stewart for some votes opposed to that legislation to be recorded. I am putting the leave. It is available for members to decide. Is there objection? There is objection.
Stewart Barbara: Points of Order — Voting—Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) BillText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeStewart Barbara: Points of Order — Voting—Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15298. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]BARBARA STEWART (NZ First): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave for the following votes on the third reading of the Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill to be recorded in theJournals: New Zealand First 7 votes for the Noes; Mana Party 1 vote for the Noes. [Interruption]
Logie Jan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeLogie Jan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15297. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]11.JAN LOGIE (Green) to theMinister for Social Development: Does the Government intend to respond to the question in UNICEF’s reportKids Missing Out “why has such a low priority been placed on implementation of children’s rights” in order to protect vulnerable children; if so how?Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development): Yes I do intend to respond. In fact I am happy to respond right now. I do not agree that it has been a lower priority.Jan Logie: Why does she think thatUnicef’s Deborah Morris-Travers said today that New Zealand has failed to incorporate the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child into its domestic law or given priority to addressing child poverty?Hon PAULA BENNETT: Because she has her own perspective on that.Jan Logie: Why has she spent so much time and money taking benefits off struggling families instead of focusing on the real ways to lift children out of poverty?Hon PAULA BENNETT: I have not. Actually fewer benefits are being cancelled now than they were in 2008—that is a fact. We are actually working more to support people. We have put more money into wrapping support around people earlier and that is a fact. We are seeing results for it; more than 7000 are going into work. We are seeing really positive results and I stand by them.Jan Logie: If the Government is doing so much why do Unicef the Child Poverty Action Group and the Children’s Commissioner all say that you cannot fix child poverty until you measure it and deliver a comprehensive strategy for eradicating it? [Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order! It is the privilege of the Hon Paula Bennett to answer.Hon PAULA BENNETT: That is from the party that is against us measuring national standards in children. It now wants to have one absolute measure for poverty. We have a number of measures. We do measure it. We are making progress. We put a lot of emphasis on these children on the economy on how we get people into jobs and on how we warm up their homes. That party can have whatever perspective it likes.That is its right. It is independent. That is the beauty of living in a democracy like New Zealand.
Mitchell Mark: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMitchell Mark: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15296. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]9.MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) to theMinister of Corrections: What recent announcements has she made on the number of hours worked by offenders on community work?Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister of Corrections): Today I announced that offenders have undertaken a million hours of community work so far this financial year.Hon Member: How much?Hon ANNE TOLLEY: A million hours. Community work is a sentence for lower-end offending that holds offenders accountable for their crimes by undertaking unpaid work in their communities. The types of work undertaken by offenders includes cleaning up graffiti gardening clearing litter from public places and assisting communities to clean up after storms such as the recent flooding in Whanganui. This is not only a suitable punishment of offenders but also allows them to give something back to the communities they have offended against.Mark Mitchell: How does community work help reduce reoffending?Hon ANNE TOLLEY: Offenders are less likely to reoffend if they have the skills to find a job. Community work provides an opportunity for offenders to gain new skills and work experience and to develop employment habits. The recently passed Administration of Community Sentences and Orders Act also allows probation officers to direct that up to 20 percent of a community work sentence can be spent in training on basic work and living skills if it will reduce the offender’s risk of reoffending. The Department of Corrections has already reduced reoffending by over 11 percent and this change has been important in helping the department further reduce reoffending and reach its goal of a 25 percent reduction by 2017.
Young Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeYoung Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15294. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]7.JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) to theMinister of Energy and Resources: What recent announcement has he made about Block Offer 2013?Hon SIMON BRIDGES (Minister of Energy and Resources): This morning I was very happy to award 10 new exploration permits in the Reinga-Northland basin offshore Taranaki the Great South Basin onshore Taranaki and the East Coast. The competitive block offer approach allows us to award exploration permits to the best bid based on the quality of its proposed work programme. Three of the permits go to international companies new to New Zealand and I welcome their strong interest in Block Offer 2013. This interest is testimony to the continuing work we have put in to put New Zealand on the map as a key destination for investors and oil and gas exploration.Jonathan Young: What does Block Offer 2013 mean for the sector and New Zealand generally?Hon SIMON BRIDGES: Collectively the permits awarded today have committed work programme expenditure of around NZ$62 million which is a significant boost in investment in New Zealand. If the work is successful it could lead to further expenditure of more than $700 million within 5 years. This adds to historically high expenditure last year when nearly $1.5 billion was invested in exploration and development. Block Offer 2013 will also open the previously unexplored Reinga-Northland basin one of our promising frontier basins. These results are another important and substantial step in the right direction for New Zealand’s exploration industry.
Wilkinson Kate: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to MinistersText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeWilkinson Kate: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15291. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]5.Hon KATE WILKINSON (National—Waimakariri) to theMinister of Justice: What recent report has she received on New Zealand’s ranking on the corruption index?Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Justice): I am pleased to report to the House that Transparency International has for the eighth year in a row ranked New Zealand as the least corrupt country in the world. Out of 177 countries—[Interruption] Well I know that the Labour Party finds that amusing but—Mr SPEAKER: Order! Just continue with the answer; I would be grateful.Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Out of 177 countries New Zealand and Denmark are ranked first equal as having the lowest perception of corruption in the public sector. New Zealand’s reputation for being corruption-free is one of its biggest assets internationally. People who do business and invest in New Zealand know they can trust our laws and our Government to protect their rights and freedoms. New Zealand’s ranking byForbes as the best country for doing business is in part due to the high trust in our public sector. Well done New Zealand.Hon Kate Wilkinson: What further steps is the Government taking to maintain this reputation?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: We cannot rest on our laurels. This year the Government has announced a range of initiatives to combat corruption and further enhance transparency. These include development of the organised crime and anti-corruption legislation which will strengthen bribery and corruption offences and I expect to introduce this legislation next year; development of a national anti-corruption strategy to address the prevention detection investigation and remedy of bribery and corruption across both private and public sectors; joining the Open Government Partnership which is an international partnership committed to promoting transparency and open government; increasing the transparency of the judiciary by making all court decisions available to the public online; and the recent coming into force of the Anti-Money Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism Act which will significantly improve the ability to detect and investigate crimes like corruption.Chris Hipkins: Will perceptions of corruption in New Zealand be enhanced or diminished by those who actively seek donations pretend they are anonymous fail to declare them in their electoral returns and receive John Key’s endorsement in the process?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Well there are many actions that might well start to diminish the perceptions of corruption in New Zealand whether it is forging paintings breaching electoral rules on election days or saying that someone has 70 people living in their home so that they can actually breach the Electoral Act. There are lots of things that could diminish the perceptions of corruption in New Zealand and I think that member should just think of his own history in it.
Tolley Anne: Business StatementText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTolley Anne: Business Statement[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15285. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House): I have just read out the Business Statement. I suggest the member looks at it.
Hipkins Chris: Business StatementText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeHipkins Chris: Business Statement[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15285. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]CHRIS HIPKINS (Labour—Rimutaka): I wonder whether the Deputy Leader of the House could tell us whether the Government intends to progress legislation relating to the establishment of the Education Council of Aotearoa New Zealand or any legislation to do with Chorus prior to Christmas.
Tolley Anne: Business StatementText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTolley Anne: Business Statement[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15285. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House): When the House resumes on Tuesday 10 December the Government will look to progress the Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 2) the Consumer Law Reform Bill and the Taxation (Annual Rates Employee Allowances and Remedial Matters) Bill. With the agreement of the Business Committee the House will sit in extended hours on the morning of Wednesday 11 December to progress two Government motions the Royal Succession Bill and theMokomoko (Restoration of Character Mana and Reputation) Bill and to hold a debate on the Health Committee inquiry on improving child health outcomes and preventing child abuse with a focus from preconception until 3 years of age.
Sittings of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSittings of the House[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15337. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Sittings of the HouseLOUISE UPSTON (Senior Whip—National): The House has made very good progress this afternoon. I seek leave for the House to rise a few minutes before 6 p.m.Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Leave is sought for the House to rise. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There appears not. Leave is granted.
Speaker’s Statements — Retirement—Assistant Serjeant-at-Arms Alan HusheerText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSpeaker’s Statements — Retirement—Assistant Serjeant-at-Arms Alan Husheer[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15314. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Speaker’s StatementsRetirement—Assistant Serjeant-at-Arms Alan HusheerThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Members there is another messenger who is retiring as well as Grant and that is the assistant Serjeant-at-Arms Alan Husheer. I should not refer to someone who is not in the House. He is not in the House at the moment but he is on the premises and he is going to be farewelled tonight along with Grant. Maybe the House would like to acknowledge him too.
Speaker’s Statements — Retirement—Deputy Serjeant-at-Arms Grant BamfieldText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSpeaker’s Statements — Retirement—Deputy Serjeant-at-Arms Grant Bamfield[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15311. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Speaker’s StatementsRetirement—Deputy Serjeant-at-Arms Grant BamfieldThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Just before I call the Hon Phil Goff I would just like to advise the House that today will be the last day in the House for Grant Bamfield sitting here on my right as he is retiring.
Points of Order — Voting—Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) BillText is incorporated into the Bound VolumePoints of Order — Voting—Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15298. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Points of OrderVoting—Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) BillBARBARA STEWART (NZ First): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek leave for the following votes on the third reading of the Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill to be recorded in theJournals: New Zealand First 7 votes for the Noes; Mana Party 1 vote for the Noes. [Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order! I am fully aware that there was no vote taken. Leave is now sought to effectively amend that record. So leave is sought as read by Barbara Stewart for some votes opposed to that legislation to be recorded. I am putting the leave. It is available for members to decide. Is there objection? There is objection.
Business StatementText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBusiness Statement[Sitting date: 05 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15285. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Thursday 5 December 2013Mr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.Prayers.Business StatementHon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House): When the House resumes on Tuesday 10 December the Government will look to progress the Subordinate Legislation (Confirmation and Validation) Bill (No 2) the Consumer Law Reform Bill and the Taxation (Annual Rates Employee Allowances and Remedial Matters) Bill. With the agreement of the Business Committee the House will sit in extended hours on the morning of Wednesday 11 December to progress two Government motions the Royal Succession Bill and theMokomoko (Restoration of Character Mana and Reputation) Bill and to hold a debate on the Health Committee inquiry on improving child health outcomes and preventing child abuse with a focus from preconception until 3 years of age.CHRIS HIPKINS (Labour—Rimutaka): I wonder whether the Deputy Leader of the House could tell us whether the Government intends to progress legislation relating to the establishment of the Education Council of Aotearoa New Zealand or any legislation to do with Chorus prior to Christmas.Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Deputy Leader of the House): I have just read out the Business Statement. I suggest the member looks at it.
Roy Eric: Sittings of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoy Eric: Sittings of the House[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15284. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There is not. Leave is granted.
Macindoe Tim: Sittings of the HouseText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Sittings of the House[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15284. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (Junior Whip—National): As it is 1½ minutes to 10 and we have made good progress tonight I seek leave for the House to rise at this point.
Sabin Mike: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeSabin Mike: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15284. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MIKE SABIN (National—Northland): I moveThat the Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill be now read a third time.Bill read a third time.
Vote: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15284. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat Parts 1 and 2 the preamble and clauses 1 and 2 be agreed to.Ayes112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan.Noes8New Zealand First 7; Mana 1.Preamble Parts 1 and 2 and clauses 1 and 2 agreed to.Bill reported without amendment.Report adopted.
Vote: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15284. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the amendment be agreed to.Ayes8New Zealand First 7; United Future 1.Noes112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; Mana 1; Independent: Horan.Amendment not agreed to.
Vote: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVote: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15284. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]A party vote was called for on the questionThat the question be now put.Ayes112New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 33; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan.Noes8New Zealand First 7; Mana 1.Motion agreed to.The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 406 in the name of Andrew Williams to Part 2 be agreed to.
Macindoe Tim: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMacindoe Tim: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15283. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]TIM MACINDOE (Junior Whip—National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Yang Jian: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeYang Jian: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15280. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Dr JIAN YANG (National): I moveThat the question be now put.
Barry Maggie: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeBarry Maggie: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15278. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore): I would like to echo the sentiments that have been expressed by others today but I am not going to go over the history and track that through. I think that this weight of material here which in fact weighs more than my son did when he was born—and it is just a small proportion of the material that we have on the Kaipara debacle—really is living weighty proof of the extent of the engagement and intellectual rigour that the Local Government and Environment Committee and the people who have submitted the ratepayers and everyone else have put into this woeful saga.Lyn Provost the Auditor-General spoke today at the Finance and Expenditure Committee. I questioned her closely—not about the red herrings that preoccupiedWinston Peters; those are distractions. The essence of what went wrong at Kaipara has been acknowledged in the report of 400-odd pages from the Auditor-General. Blame does need to be sheeted home. I think that the Auditor-General did front up yesterday to people in Mangawhai andMaungatūroto and spoke to them about the problems. She acknowledged the responsibility of the Auditor-General’s office up to a point and there is certainly more to be said around some of the issues and the motivations of the individuals who were involved in the Kaipara District Council.But as others have said before me the point of this legislation the Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill—even though we are all vastly uncomfortable with validating rates in this way—is that it must protect the people of the district who are paying these rates. There is no end in sight. It will be a very difficult situation unless this piece of legislation goes through.I will certainly not be supporting the Supplementary Order Paper 406 in the name of Winston Peters. I think it is just a piece of mischief-making and political machination—typical of that member—and it is coming in at the eleventh hour as well. As Nicky Wagner did point out it was unanimous up until one point.But one thing I would just say is that I echo absolutely what the Auditor-General’s office has said. There is a lot to be answered for but I commend what the member Mike Sabin has done here. This is an issue that has also touched me on the North Shore very much and many of my constituents have been touched by it. It is a very difficult situation. This is the best possible alternative and that is why we must carry this out tonight and pass it. I will not delay the Committee any further but I do urge us all to concentrate and focus on what is necessary tonight.
Robertson H V Ross: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15275. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): I call the honourable member Philip Twyford.
Ross Jami-Lee: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third ReadingText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill — In Committee Third Reading[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15267. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I seek leave for all debatable questions on the Kaipara District Council (Validation of Rates and Other Matters) Bill to be taken as one question.The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson): Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none.
General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeGeneral Debate[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15246. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]I know what the principals the staff and the parents at those schools and in those communities are saying. They are saying that John Key is arrogant he has disappointed them he has lost touch and he is going to lose his job. They get excited at the thought of a change of Government. I have not heard that level of excitement for a long time. It certainly was not obvious going into the 2011 election but I know it is going to be obvious going into the 2014 election.
Dyson Ruth: General DebateText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeDyson Ruth: General Debate[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15246. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon RUTH DYSON (Labour—Port Hills): I was very interested in the comments that the member Jami-Lee Ross made just before he resumed his seat. He said that we should get out of here and talk to the principals. I will recommend some principals. I recommend that that member comes to Christchurch. He should talk to the principal the staff and the parents atPhillipstown School. He should talk to the principal the staff and the parents atBranston Intermediate School. He should talk to the principal the staff and the parents in the communities that have been wracked with division—not by the quakes not by the bureaucracy but by Minister Hekia Parata who rode roughshod over democracy and fair process in an already vulnerable and damaged community and told us where our communities were going to be in the future. At the heart of every community is the local school and many of our communities no longer have them.
Robertson H V Ross: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD ReportText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD Report[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15235. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Can I just say again—look we have a robust Parliament here. This is open for debate. It is a very passionate issue for all the members involved and one has to expect that in a healthy democracy.The debate having concluded the motion lapsed.
Coleman Jonathan: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD ReportText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeColeman Jonathan: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD Report[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15235. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Defence): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Separate from the issue of whether a personal insult was made those interjections were not rare witty or to the point; they were actually continuous barracking to try to put the speaker off her stride and you should have ruled—
Robertson H V Ross: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD ReportText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD Report[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15235. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Can I thank the honourable member and just say that this is a robust Parliament and it is a wide-ranging debate. The Minister should have taken a point of order at the time. That is the way it operates in this Parliament.Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman: Speaking to the point of order—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): I have already ruled.Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman: Can I raise a new point of order?The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Yes you can raise a new one.
Tolley Anne: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD ReportText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeTolley Anne: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD Report[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15235. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister of Police): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I did take offence at some of the comments that were made. I was in the middle of a speech and of course if you interrupt your speech to address comments that are being made across the House they are recorded inHansard. I did not want those recorded inHansard but I do take offence. It was extremely unparliamentary language and insults that were being hurled across the House.
Robertson H V Ross: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD ReportText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD Report[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15235. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Can I just say to the member that if there is offence taken it should be taken at the time during the course of the debate not afterwards.
Ross Jami-Lee: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD ReportText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRoss Jami-Lee: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD Report[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15235. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National): I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Throughout the speech of the Hon Anne Tolley the Hon Trevor Mallard was making a number of interjections that were clearly unparliamentary and offended Speakers’ rulings 42/2 and 3. I would ask that he be asked to withdraw them.
Robertson H V Ross: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD ReportText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD Report[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15230. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): I just wish to advise the House—[Interruption] Order! [Interruption] Order! Order! Relax—relax. [Interruption] Order! Order! We have members interjecting on each other and it is not permitted under Speakers’ rulings. I call the honourable member Jacinda Ardern and advise the House that this is a split call.
Robertson H V Ross: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD ReportText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeRobertson H V Ross: Urgent Debates — Student Achievement—OECD Report[Sitting date: 04 December 2013. Volume:695;Page:15227. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson): Order! I have not called the member yet. The member must wait to be called. I call the honourable member Dr Cam Calder.