Bennett DavidHon DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East): Yes. Madam Chair I intend to bring up a couple of points that haven't been canvassed so far. The first point is in regard to how once we look at Part 2 and we look at clause 5 and 6 added together we get to that 8c figure which is effectively $260 per car that a household will have to pay. Now most households are two-car families and there will be over $500 that every family in New Zealand is basically going to have to pay out from this tax grab. In practical terms that's $10 a week that the Government has taken off every family in New Zealand today—$10 a week. That is a huge amount of money. We are talking about a tax bill here and we haven't talked about what the actual financial implication will be per family and $10 a week per family is what they will be paying now.Many of my colleagues have talked about how people aren't able to access public transport options as an alternative in many parts of the country. But I want to raise a new point and that is that the timing of this doesn't make sense because all the public transport options the Minister has been talking about don't even start being built until about 2022.The City Rail Link in Auckland that they're looking at building from the city to the airport starts in about 2022 and then they're raising money now. They're raising money before they actually have to pay it on those things. So New Zealanders are paying ahead. They're paying three or four years ahead of when that money is required. That is completely unacceptable and nobody has pointed that out in this committee. We haven't discussed how New Zealanders are now being charged for something they're not actually getting. They're having to pay for something that may happen in the future; it may or may not happen. If we look at some other prospects of Government policy they don't happen.That is $10 a week for the average New Zealand family and most of them don't get any benefit off it at all because as we've heard before most New Zealanders don't live in a place where they can access these two rail options that are really where this money's going. It's going to fund the central rail link and it's going to fund the rail link between Auckland and the airport. That's where this money's going—let's not beat around the bush; that's what the Minister needs the money for and that's what he's going to do with it. One of the projects hasn't even started so why are people paying for it? And both of them are only accessible to a very small proportion of the New Zealand population. Then comes the third point that I want to raise which is a new point in this debate as well and that is the inequity between transport funding throughout New Zealand. For too long some regions have had a limited amount of capital funding coming out of the transport budget. Now some members of the Opposition will say that doesn't matter; you're still getting maintenance funding and all that. But when you're looking at capital funding for new projects the Wellington region has done the best out of any region over many many years. As a proportion of the population it's probably only about 7 or 8 percent of the population and yet the Wellington region gets 10 percent—OK? Well it gets over 13 or 14 percent of funding. It does. [Interruption] Well if the Minister in the chair doesn't agree with that then show me the figures because if he looks at the capital funding that goes into Wellington it is certainly higher than the proportion of population. Isn't that true Minister Twyford? You shook your head before but it's true isn't it? Yes it is. So we've just had an admission from the Minister who was before saying no but now when you ask him directly he refuses to answer. So Wellington gets a higher proportion of funding than its population. So how about somewhere like Southland Minister? Does it get a higher proportion of funding and of capital funding from transport budgets than its population? Does it Minister? He's gone silent. He doesn't want to explain to the members of Southland. Well I'll give him a really easy one. Has Auckland over the years got a higher proportion of funding than its population? The answer is no. Auckland has been underfunded for many years. Auckland has been subsidising Wellington for many many years and Auckland is finally getting some money out of this. But at the same time they're making all Aucklanders pay for it not just the ones that can access the service. I think if—[Time expired]