Carter DavidRt Hon DAVID CARTER (National): I wasn't going to take a call but I take exception to the intervention from the Minister the Hon Grant Robertson when he says the National caucus is not a happy place. I went to procedures this morning and I've never seen so many happy faces as we had such a selection of questions before the House at 2 p.m. today all of which are examining the incompetence of this Government the absolute shambles of this Government. So I take exception to Mr Robertson's comment. The National caucus is a very happy place.But I'll tell you the office that's not a happy place this morning—I feel sorry for these people who work in the office of the Hon Dr David Clark because we know that man is a dead man walking and—CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): Actually could you make me happy and—Rt Hon DAVID CARTER: I could definitely make you happy Madam Chair.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): —speak to Part 1 of the bill.Rt Hon DAVID CARTER: I can make you happy by talking about wellbeing and the Government's focus on wellbeing of these people who work in that office. I do want to refer particularly to the Public Finance (Wellbeing) Amendment Bill—CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): Please.Rt Hon DAVID CARTER: —and the commentary on the bill from the Finance and Expenditure Committee because I now feel sorry for the wellbeing of Treasury. I want to quote from the report: the provision in this legislation will require … Treasury to produce a description of the state of wellbeing in New Zealand. It is intended that the Treasury would use its best professional judgement in determining the best indicators to describe wellbeing. The bill does not [describe] what those indicators are." So I want the Minister to take a call and simply answer this question: how can he expect Treasury to do its job when this legislation doesn't describe what wellbeing is? No one knows what wellbeing is. How can Treasury be happy to have this legislation thrust on it by the Minister when even the Minister can't stand—Michael Wood: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. The specific clause that the member is speaking to is in Part 2 of the bill.Hon Member: Come on be happy!Rt Hon DAVID CARTER: Yeah there's an example of the wellbeing of the Labour caucus at the moment.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): I have got a point of order and I am going to direct the member to Part 1. We are on Part 1; the indicators are in Part 2.Rt Hon DAVID CARTER: We're talking about the public finance wellbeing and the wellbeing objectives Madam Chair.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Anne Tolley): OK that's fine—that's Part 1.Rt Hon DAVID CARTER: We're talking about the wellbeing objectives and in the commentary on the bill we are saying we can't as legislators define the objectives; we're handing that to Treasury to do. So I'm asking the Minister to give the committee some assistance. Let him take a call and tell us what wellbeing means because I don't know; Treasury doesn't know as per the commentary; Michael Wood doesn't have a clue what wellbeing objectives are hence his pointless point of order. So let the Minister stand and tell us why we're passing this legislation when no one knows what's meant by wellbeing."