Wall Louisa; Borrows ChesterLOUISA WALL (Labour—Manurewa): I want to focus on two Supplementary Order Papers (SOPs) one of which we support and the other we do not. I will start with the one that we support and that is Supplementary Order Paper 193 in my colleague Jacinda Ardern's name. It is great that the Minister for Social Development has also supported the name change. The bill will be called the Child Protection (Child Sex Offender Government Agency Registration) Bill. I just want to quote from the Supplementary Order Paper because then it will make sense why we are not supporting the second SOP. It says in the explanatory note: This title better reflects the content and scope of the Bill by specifying that the register that the Bill proposes is limited to information between government agencies and not a public register."Thereon I move to Supplementary Order Paper 178 in Darroch Ball's name. I do not think we have actually adequately addressed why we are not supporting it so I am going to take the time to explain why we are not. I think that when we look at the register—to get on the register you have to be a sex offender so you have to have been convicted. Therefore you have to have gone to prison.I really want to focus on sentencing principles actually in trying to explain our position. The sentence must be no more severe than is necessary to meet the purposes of sentencing and the overall punishment must be proportionate to the gravity of the offending behaviour. If you start from that principle or premise then why we do not support this Supplementary Order Paper is because actually it will infringe on fundamental human rights that we all have in regard to protections of our privacy. The privacy that I want to emphasise is the privacy of our information. There should be rules that govern the collection and handling of our personal data and I think that we—when looking at why we do not support a public register it is because it also has to be coupled which is why I brought up the principles of sentencing with what the sentencing enables us to do as a society.Those offenders who are so heinous that we need to monitor some of them for ever can be sentenced to preventative detention and so sentences such as that protect society from individuals whose behaviour is so unacceptable that actually there are going to be limits on their freedoms. We also have public protection orders which are in place to prevent individuals who have been sentenced but of whom on their release we then say that there is something about them and their lack of rehabilitation—because I also want to focus on one of the Department of Corrections' strategic objectives which is about the management and rehabilitation of offenders. We would hope that people would go through our prison system and be managed in a way that then enables them to be rehabilitated and to rejoin society but the reality is that some members of society are not able to do that so we rely on the Government to protect us.We do not want I think to set up a scenario where we actually breach individuals' privacy and allow vigilantism on individuals because we do not want to live in a society like that. We want to live in a society where we are friends to the people who live beside us our neighbours—where we get along with members of our community because we all go to the same RSA or "cossie club" or play squash together or whatever it might be. We do not want to live in a society where people who have committed an offence served their time and are now back in the community actually have to continue to serve a sentence for whatever transgression they have had in their past. We want to give people another opportunity to be part of society.Fundamentally I am sorry to say to my colleague Darroch Ball that is really why we will not support your Supplementary Order Paper. I think that your intention in bringing this to the Committee was valid because what you wanted to do was to enable—and particularly I think we have seen lately—parents of young children to give them a choice about how they manage the young children in some of our communities where they do not know that a sex offender is living just down the road from the school or—The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Chester Borrows): Carmel Sepuloni—final call."