Bishop ChrisCHRIS BISHOP (National): Thank you Madam Speaker and I thank the Minister for his illumination of these two relatively minor but still important orders. We the National Opposition will support the approval of both of them. Just in relation to the first one I had forgotten—I mean this sort of sounds terrible but it's true—about the Norfolk Island flights which perhaps is a reminder to me for something to do in the recess potentially—Hon Chris Hipkins: Beautiful place to go.CHRIS BISHOP: Well I'm told it's a beautiful place to go. I have never been there. David Seymour: Chris Hipkins will close the border. CHRIS BISHOP: Ha! I have never been there but potentially it is something that is available and isn't it great to see the mighty Air Chathams put on par with Air New Zealand Qantas and Jetstar? You know as the Minister says—David Seymour: It's more a compliment for Air New Zealand Jetstar and Qantas.CHRIS BISHOP: Ha! Yeah—well as Mr Seymour says it's more a compliment for Air New Zealand Jetstar and Qantas. That's potentially true. And I echo the Minister's remarks—Hon Member: Great Barrier Air?CHRIS BISHOP: Well I don't know if Great Barrier Air is going to end up going to—I mean I have been to Great Barrier Island and it may as well be a separate jurisdiction. Sometimes it certainly feels like that but I don't think you need quarantine-free travel to go to Great Barrier Island yet.David Seymour: Well you probably should. What's the Minister doing about that?CHRIS BISHOP: You probably should. Nikki Kaye's there so—I don't know what that says. But anyway Air Chathams—we welcome them and I echo what the Minister says around the return potentially in time of other international operators to New Zealand to operate that trans-Tasman route. Prior to COVID-19 coming upon us we had Emirates and Singapore Airlines at various points and other operators on that route providing freedom flights and competition on that route. You know it's not going to happen straight away obviously but—Hon Chris Hipkins: One of the most competitive in the world.CHRIS BISHOP: Indeed. The Minister says it's one of the most competitive routes in the world and he's exactly right and the prices at the time prior to COVID-19 reflected that. That's a good thing but it's also not just great for consumers but also in terms of freight and our freight connections and goods connections to the rest of the world—very important as well. So it's not going to happen straight away obviously or overnight but we welcome that in the future.Just in relation to the second one around the required testing amendment order bringing health workers into the principal order we support that as well for the reasons the Minister has outlined.I do just want to make a point because the Minister did raise it in relation to saliva testing which is that this is a sorry tale. With respect to the Minister who says he's in favour of it and the Government has made all the necessary changes to the orders and to the Cabinet approvals he cannot duck responsibility for this. This is something that was recommended to Government in September 2020 by the Roche-Simpson report. It said that it should be a matter of priority and all steps should be taken forthwith to roll out saliva testing at the border. And here we are in July 2021 and we still don't have a time line for the national roll-out of saliva testing. So it's all very well for the Minister to say Well I'm as frustrated as you are and I want to see it rolled out further." but at the end of the day Ministers and the Government have to take some responsibility here. It's not good enough frankly for Ministers to blame officials like they did back in August last year when it turned out that what Ministers thought was happening on the ground in relation to the border was not actually happening. At the end of the day ministerial responsibility has to start and end somewhere and Ministers need to take some responsibility for the deficiencies when it comes to saliva testing. We welcome it. We've called for it for many months now and it turns out that New Zealand's had for the better part of six to nine months a private sector provider of saliva testing with the resources and the capability to provide saliva testing. In fact they've been doing it in a private sector capacity at Auckland Airport for many months. In fact I went and got a saliva test because I wanted to see for myself exactly what it was like. Anna Lorck: What?CHRIS BISHOP: You'd be lucky—you'd be pleased to know Anna Lorck that I passed. Hon Chris Hipkins: I hope you didn't smoke beforehand.CHRIS BISHOP: Ha ha! No no no no. You'd be pleased to know that I passed and it was incredibly easy. I bear in mind that you know not everyone wants to do the saliva testing but there are a lot of people out there who do want to do it. That's I think a good thing and we encourage people to go out and do it and we encourage the Government to hit the go button and expedite the roll-out of saliva testing more widely. Thanks."