Edmonds BarbaraBARBARA EDMONDS (Labour—Mana): Fakaalofa lahi atu Mr Speaker. Thank you very much for taking my call. Now as a member of the Finance and Expenditure Committee I won't have the ability to analyse this bill further because I understand it's being referred to the Economic Development Science and Innovation Committee. But having a look at this bill like many members of the House who have to fill in for other committee members this morning in the House the one word that stuck out for me was in the title of the bill and that is trust"—Digital Identity Services Trust Framework Bill. It's important that Kiwis need to trust that their personal data is handled securely and this legislation hopes to be able to achieve that. Now when I went through the bill this morning what really stuck out for me was that this is actually the introduction of quite a fundamental regime for our country. We look at the Official Information Act regime that was brought in in 1981 or 1982. We look at the Privacy Act regime that was brought in in 1993. There are very key elements in this bill which will be—I'm looking forward to seeing what submissions come out and I want to be able to point to a number of those aspects within the particular part of the bill.One other really key point when I was reading the regulatory impact statement was what was happening overseas. A member from the ACT Party referred to it—this legislation if passed obviously affects the domestic acquisition or holding of digital information identity information. But what does that mean for the likes of Netflix and overseas jurisdictions that have digital identification information for Kiwis? So what's really important which I note from the regulatory impact statement is that it talks about the international key partners like Australia and the United Kingdom who are also modernising their digital identity systems and taking a similar approach to New Zealand. That'll be really important to ensure that there is some sort of interoperability if we look to align with other countries. So having other countries across the world have similar frameworks means that when it comes to New Zealand establishing our framework we can work closely with them such as you're seeing in other types of regimes like the base erosion profit shifting rules that happened for tax where the OECD led that and there was consistency and alignment of rules to prevent arbitration of those rules.So how will this bill benefit New Zealanders? Well looking at it obviously it provides that trusted framework for Kiwis. What is important is what the previous member from ACT also referred to: the enforcement elements of this bill; that's in Part 6 of the bill. That's something that I think that submitters should really provide some comment on because you want to know whether the offences and penalties that are covered within this bill are too hard or too soft. Is that what you expect as a Kiwi if somebody breaches these particular rules if they're passed? The other part that's actually quite interesting in here is that the trust framework board a governance board which also has a Māori framework board—the secrecy and the immunity provisions that are in Part 7 of this bill. Now to be able to have secrecy and immunity from other Acts to be able to make sure that the information that they use in relation to enforcing this Act cannot be released in other circumstances is really key and really quite important because in order to have secrecy and immunity there has to be a high threshold a high bar for it. So I'm really looking forward to seeing what the select committee and what submitters come with in relation to that particular part Part 7. But going back to the main key point of my speech this is about trust. It is a fundamental new regime. It does require good scrutiny at the select committee. I'm really keen to understand how the international interoperability works with Australia and the UK and whether other international country partners are going to it in order to protect our Kiwis' identification or information. I'd be really interested to see how the enforcement powers sit; again submitters being able to see whether they are too hard or too soft; and again has this bill met the threshold where members of that board should have secrecy and immunity from releasing any of that information? So on those points I'd like to commend this bill to the House."