11. Question No. 11—Prevention of Family and Sexual ViolenceHon GINNY ANDERSEN (Labour) to the Minister for the Prevention of Family and Sexual ViolenceQuestion No. 11—Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence11. Hon GINNY ANDERSEN (Labour) to the Minister for the Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence: Does she stand by her statement regarding the availability of services that support victims of family violence sometimes it's not about just throwing extra money at stuff. It's about making sure that the money is going to the right places. And we're working through where those gaps are and where the money we have currently got isn't being spent well and focusing it to where it is being spent ... So that is a process … that takes time"; if so when will that process be completed?Hon KAREN CHHOUR (Minister for the Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence): In answer to the first part of the question yes. In answer to the second part of the question the Government is currently working on the second action plan to implement Te Aorerekura the 25-year strategy to address family and sexual violence in this country. This action plan is expected to be published in the last quarter of 2024 and this will help drive collective efforts and investment decisions across Government in the family violence and sexual violence space. Family violence and sexual violence are an important component of the Government target to reduce violent crime by having 20 percent fewer people be the victims of assaults robberies and sexual assaults by 2029. The Government targets will also help focus attention and resources on achieving better results that New Zealanders expect and deserve.Hon Ginny Andersen: Does she agree with Mark Mitchell regarding the 3000 fewer family violence investigations since December 2023 "Those calls are being triaged and the number has come down"; if not why not?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: I just want to make it very clear that my role is to be responsible for leading the whole-of-Government approach where we work together to identify shared priorities and make trade-offs around funding. Once decisions are taken individual Ministers and agencies remain responsible for their statements and for what they're doing.Hon Ginny Andersen: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I asked if she agreed with a statement made by Mark Mitchell. I don't think that addressed that. The Minister of Police has said the reduction in family violence investigations is due to triaging. Does she agree with that or not?SPEAKER: Well in the end she can't speak for Mark Mitchell. I don't think there was any way you could say that question wasn't addressed.Hon Ginny Andersen: Why then has there been a reduction in victimisations where the offender is known to the victim by 24 percent since December last year?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: That specific issue—if you would like to ask that in writing I shall get you an answer.Hon Ginny Andersen: If the reduction in family violence investigations is due to a new triaging process—or is it because police are not attending family violence as they were previously and there is no additional family violence support services in place to take up the gap left?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: I'd just like to say police will always play a role when it comes to responding to violence including family violence or where there has been a crime where someone is in immediate danger. But I would also like to remind them that it's important to note that the six-month proof of concept trial for this was trialled by the previous Government before we even began this. So this is something that the previous Government was on board with and I would expect they still will be.Hon Ginny Andersen: If a family violence call to 111 does not meet the new police threshold to attend and there is no support agency resourced in that area to attend what happens?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: I would suggest that you direct those questions to the Minister of Police.SPEAKER: Well I think also that the Minister can't have operational responsibility which you're asking a question about.Hon Ginny Andersen: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. As the Minister responsible for the prevention of—SPEAKER: Sorry—start again I couldn't hear you.Hon Ginny Andersen: As the Minister responsible for the prevention of family violence who is currently undertaking a review of what adequate services are in place to be able to respond to who is stepping into the space that police have left—I believe that falls within her responsibility as the Minister responsible for preventing family violence.SPEAKER: Is that within the Minister's allocated responsibility?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: My role is just to facilitate all the Government agencies. What happens after that is the responsibility of the individual Ministers.Hon Ginny Andersen: Is it her plan to achieve the Prime Minister's target of 20000 fewer victims of crime simply by making it harder for victims to report family violence and even harder for them to get the help they need?Hon KAREN CHHOUR: I just reject the premise of that question. [Interruption]SPEAKER: Just calm it. Could we have silence everywhere."