Hide Rodney: Charities Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
Hide Rodney: Charities Bill — Second Reading Instruction to Committee In Committee Third Reading 
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RODNEY HIDE (Leader—ACT) 
: 
 What we see in this part is the direct control of the Charities Commission coming under ministerial persuasion. Ms Rich is quite right. This is what should upset the charitable organisations because we ask ourselves: what sort of direction will be provided? Here we come to the window that we have recently had on this Labour Government the make-up of this Government and the sorts of people who will be given this direction and making these appointments. We have learnt that they are dominated by unionists so it is a very very narrow sector of New Zealand that will be directing the Charities Commission. 
We know that the most powerful group within the Labour Party and hence the Labour Government is what Mr Tamihere calls the “Wimmins Division”. I look across the Chamber and I can see all the members here tonight. We know that the people who are dominating the Labour Government do not have families according to Mr Tamihere and he should know. He says that they just sit around “parlez vous” drinking their lattes and plotting and planning. Those are the sorts of people who will be making these appointments and giving directions to the Charities Commission. We know from Mr Tamihere that the people who will be giving the directions are smarmy and have no substance. One can listen to them for 2 hours take lots of notes and learn nothing. We have certainly seen that in this Chamber tonight. 
We have learnt from Mr Tamihere that the people who will be setting up and running this commission are duplicitous and that they cheat the likes of the United Future party by changing words. These again are the people whom the commission will be stuck with—people who are duplicitous. We hear from Mr Tamihere that the people who will be setting up this commission are tossers. That is what he said. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: I say to Mr Hide that that word has been ruled out as unparliamentary. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: I am sorry. I did not realise. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: Would the member withdraw it please. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: I withdraw. I am sorry; I did not realise. 
Katherine Rich 
: Caber tossers. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: A cabal of something and we heard this from— 
Hon Pete Hodgson 
: No Celtic history in that guy. 
Jill Pettis 
: He would have ended up in the haggis. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: Mr Tamihere did not make the half of it did he. What a mean miserable little party it is represented by Jill Pettis. It is no wonder poor John Tamihere rushed off to Ian Wishart to bare his soul. What would it be like to be locked up in a room with the craven women on that side of the Chamber and have to put up with their cheap jibes? I am not surprised that the poor fellow is under stress. 
Jill Pettis 
: How many times have you won your electorate? 
RODNEY HIDE 
: That again is the sort of fisticuffs the intimidation the claws that poor old John Tamihere is suffering under. Then they say that he is a red-blooded heterosexual male and that he is stressed and in need of psychiatric help. How could he not be if he is sitting with Jill Pettis Judith Tizard Helen Clark Heather Simpson and Marian Hobbs? That would drive anyone to a psychiatric institution. I am amazed that John Tamihere lasted as long as he did. There are no other members in that party who have any red blood going through their veins. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: The member will come back to the bill please. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: I am talking about the bill. I do not know why you think I am not because I am saying that if we look at clause 82— 
Hon Pete Hodgson 
: Don’t challenge the Chairperson. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: There is Pete Hodgson saying not to challenge the Chairperson. He is sitting in his seat not taking a point of order. He is useless as usual. He said that if I sat down he would take a call. I sat down. Did anyone see him take a call? No. He does not even know what we are debating he is so useless. 
Lianne Dalziel 
: Talk to the bill. 
RODNEY HIDE 
: Now we are hearing from Lianne Dalziel. The poor girl. She is stressed. She got sacked. What did she do? Actually not much. She has not been forgiven but John Tamihere is back in the fold. [ 
Interruption 
] Now she is calling out for me to talk to the bill. If she would shut up I would. It is no wonder that John Tamihere is in a psychiatric institution with that sort of carry-on. I am talking about clause 82 and the sorts of people that the likes of Lianne Dalziel would be appointing to run the commission and get their sticky little fingers on 30000—[ 
Interruption 
] John Tamihere will be. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: The question is that the Minister’s amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 357 be agreed to. [ 
Interruption 
] The member will be quiet. [ 
Interruption 
] The member will stand withdraw and apologise. 
Rodney Hide 
: I withdraw and apologise. I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. How come Lianne Dalziel can sit there and call out and the chair does nothing but if I respond the chair jumps on me and asks me to withdraw and apologise? 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: What I heard and I certainly did not even hear another one—I could not hear it above the decibels emitting from the member— 
Rodney Hide 
: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. Why do you not ask Lianne Dalziel whether she called out when you started to put the question? 
The CHAIRPERSON (Ann Hartley) 
: I have ruled on the matter. 
Rodney Hide 
: I raise a point of order Madam Chairperson. With the greatest of respect I was responding to what Lianne Dalziel called out when you were taking the vote. You think it is OK to punish me—I notice that the Speaker asks a member whether he or she was calling out. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 357 in the name of the Hon Judith Tizard to Part 3 be agreed to.