2. KiwiBuild—Advice Crown Developers and FundingHon JUDITH COLLINS (National—Papakura) to the Minister of Housing and Urban DevelopmentKiwiBuild—Advice Crown Developers and Funding2. Hon JUDITH COLLINS (National—Papakura) to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Is the KiwiBuild: Buying off the Plans document correct where it says there is insufficient funding for the Crown to deliver all 100000 KiwiBuild dwellings by itself"?Hon JENNY SALESA (Minister for Building and Construction) on behalf of the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: KiwiBuild is an ambitious plan to build 100000 homes over 10 years starting from 1 July 2018. We'd always intended for KiwiBuild to be a partnership between the Crown and developers the Crown and iwi builders and other participants. We expect the capital to be recycled across the programme and be sufficient for the Government to build 100000 affordable homes over a period of 10 years.Hon Judith Collins: What did he mean when he told the media yesterday "the $2 billion will be spent many many times over—over—the next decade"?Hon JENNY SALESA: On behalf of the Minister of Housing and Urban Development what I meant when I made that quote was that as we build KiwiBuild homes affordable homes it will be recycled. You sell off homes and then you reinvest that money over and over again to build more affordable KiwiBuild homes something that we are committed to doing something that over nine years the member and her Government didn't do which was to build affordable homes.Hon Judith Collins: If that is correct then why do his officials state that there is insufficient funding to deliver on his promise for the Government to build 100000 KiwiBuild homes?Hon JENNY SALESA: On behalf of the Minister of Housing and Urban Development what that statement means is that the $2 billion on its own will have to be recycled over and over again and we will be partnering with iwi we will be partnering with private developers to ensure that we build affordable homes. We are in a national housing crisis right now that was built over nine years of that Government. We are very committed to building houses and to housing New Zealanders.Hon Judith Collins: Which is correct: the KiwiBuild: Buying off the Plans document which says there is not enough Crown funding for him to build the promise of KiwiBuild homes or himself who yesterday said to the media "I have no reason to think it won't be enough."?Hon JENNY SALESA: We are committed to building affordable homes. We will be building 100000 affordable homes over 10 years. While that member watched housing become more and more unaffordable and did nothing we're focused on making sure—SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] Order! I think we've had that.Hon Judith Collins: Why did he tell media yesterday that the Government "will build" the KiwiBuild dwellings but his own officials' document released the day before states that the Government will now only "facilitate" private investors to build the KiwiBuild houses?Hon JENNY SALESA: On behalf of the Minister of Housing and Urban Development this Government is committed and will be building 100000 affordable homes over 10 years. We will be partnering with developers to ensure that that happens. This Government will be partnering with iwi and we will make sure that houses are built.Marja Lubeck: How many homes were built in Auckland last year?SPEAKER: No no. Order! That might be an interesting question but it doesn't flow from either the primary question or any of the supplementaries.Hon Judith Collins: When he said to the media yesterday that the Government is going to build 100000 KiwiBuild homes did he really mean that the Government is going to subsidise private investors to build the homes that the Government has promised but can't deliver? [Interruption]Hon JENNY SALESA: We will be partnering with developers to ensure that this happens. We always said—SPEAKER: Order! The member will resume her seat. Mr Goldsmith that may or may not be true but it's not appropriate for you to address me in that way. You will stand withdraw and apologise.Hon Paul Goldsmith: I withdraw and apologise Mr Speaker.Hon JENNY SALESA: On behalf of the Minister of Housing and Urban Development in terms of price points the prices that we are looking at are maximum prices. If I can give an example from the member's own electorate the example of a KiwiBuild home in terms of McLennan we have said that we will be building a house that will cost around about $579000 for a 3-bedroom house. In Auckland over the last year or so—SPEAKER: Order! Nice try. Any further supplementaries?"