Moroney Sue: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
Moroney Sue: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Volume:628;Page:172] 
4.  
SUE MORONEY (Labour) 
 to the  
Minister for Tertiary Education 
: Has he received any reports on increased participation by Maori and Pasifika in tertiary education? 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN (Minister for Tertiary Education) 
: 
 Figures provided to me show that Maori participation in degree-level and higher courses has increased by 25 percent since 1999. For Pasifika it is 56 percent. The number of Pasifika graduating from doctorate-level courses has doubled. The number of Maori obtaining doctorates has increased by over 30 percent. 
Sue Moroney 
: What reports has he seen on other initiatives to promote Maori and Pasifika participation in tertiary education and training? 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN 
: I have seen a report explaining that “The liberating experience of education led me to develop equity admission programmes at the University of Auckland for Maori and Polynesian students undertaking commerce degrees.” I have also seen a report advising universities that “If you want funding you can’t have racially based systems …”. The second was from Dr Brash; the first was from Dr Mapp. 
Hon Tau Henare 
: In light of his primary answer why will he force a quota on Te Wananga o Aotearoa when many other New Zealanders would love to take the opportunity to attend that institution? 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN 
: The wananga is dropping that role for I would have thought some fairly obvious reasons. It did of course take a claim under the Treaty of Waitangi for payment in relation to it being aeMaori institution; it then seems rather strange for it to turn round to being an institution with a majority of non-Maori. 
Te Ururoa Flavell 
: I rungai te ahua kei te nui akengaMaori e whaianai te mataurangainga whare wananga ka taea e te Minita te whakamaro mai ingapainga ka ngahoro mai ahakoakua iti iho te putea A1J1 ka tukuna ki ngawanangaMaori ko ratoungakaihapaiinga taura Maori Pakeha hoki? 
[An interpretation in English was given to the House.] 
[ 
Given the fact that a greater proportion of Maori are undertaking tertiary education than ever before will the Minister be able to explain the benefits that will accrue to the wananga despite the reduction of the A1J1 funding from which Maori and Pakeha students have tasted success? 
] 
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN 
: First I think it is really important that we stop talking about the wananga as if there were only one. There are two others which are highly successful and non-controversial. There is one with serious governance and management problems and also with serious financial control problems. The Government’s intention and determination are to ensure that those issues are settled and that that wananga is able to set itself on a stable path delivering courses of quality in terms of both foundation courses and other courses. 
Te Ururoa Flavell 
: A takumohio kaorei te tika te whakautu mai ki takupatai kai te inoi atu kia pataianoi te patai kia taea e ia te kokiri he whakautu ki takupatai. 
[ 
Indeed my understanding is that the response to my question was not right and I seek that the question be put again so that he can put together a more suitable answer. 
] 
[An interpretation in English was given to the House.] 
Madam SPEAKER 
: Under the Standing Orders the Minister is required to address the question. The Minister in this instance addressed the question.