Mark RonRON MARK (Deputy Leader—NZ First): Look it is a very short bill and it is a very simple bill. From New Zealand First's perspective—we had a bit of a conversation about this in Parliament—we are going to vote to support this bill through to select committee. I cannot help but make the comment which is slightly off the bill but is in reply to the last speaker's comment that we would ask that this bill be voted through to the select committee so that it may be discussed. That comment was from my twin brother" over there Matt Doocey who wears the same haircut as I and is from Rangiora as well—a brother from another mother. I have got to say that I wish the same view had been expressed over the Youth Employment Training and Education Bill which was to let it go through the select committee for analysis conversation and discussion. But that is not what the bill did. So I have to say Mr Doocey that I take your words with a handful of salt. Despite what I consider to be a not genuine argument we will support this bill through to the select committee for that very same reason that you espoused. We just wish that you had showed the same view taken same approach to Darroch Ball's Youth Employment Training and Education Bill which is something that you promoted in 2008—military training for young people not in education and not engaged in training. Hon Simon Bridges: Not really relevant.RON MARK: We digress but I think it is relevant Simon—what is your name? Powers? No. What is his name? "Brylcreem".Hon Simon Bridges: I don't know "Ronald Dark".RON MARK: Sorry it escapes me now. Simon "No" Bridges is interjecting on me right now but Simon "No" Bridges—Simon Bridges who built no bridges in Northland—The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard): Order! The member will resume his seat. I think I have given the member considerable latitude for 2 minutes and I am not sure yet that he has shown any sign of knowing what the bill is or is about. It would be very good if he got to it.RON MARK: Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker. "A streamlined cost-effective efficient and community-based process is required to ensure that the councils are mandated to implement a plan that reduces mangrove growth to acceptable levels that will improve any access recreation amenity or ecosystem values." We understand that. We get that. We agree with that. But we do ask why this bill is restricted to Thames-Coromandel. Thames-Coromandel is not the only place in New Zealand that has mangroves. Thames-Coromandel is not the only place in New Zealand that is struggling with the same issue within its communities. Some of us would say mangroves are not even indigenous and they should not even be here. Some of us might argue that there is no value whatsoever in allowing mangroves to continue. Others might argue that there are other ecosystem advantages to having mangroves continue but they do need to be controlled. We would agree with the National Party and specifically with Scott Simpson who has done a tremendous job as the chair of the Local Government and Environment Committee in the time I have worked with him and who has been rightly elevated in recognition of his work. So we recognise that and we support that but we would make this proposition: if the National Government is serious about this then why not expand the bill?Hon Scott Simpson: Because it's a local bill.RON MARK: Well why not consider further how we might expand that bill? Yes this is a local bill. The member is quite right. But let us have a wider conversation. I am not an Auckland boy—I am fortunate that I have a partner who is an Auckland girl who would never go back to live there—but I drive through Auckland frequently and I look across those mudflats and the mangroves and the conversation is clear. How far do you allow those mangroves to spread? I have had people say to me well Coromandel is fine but what about Whangarei? We have got people saying to us right now that it is an issue in Whangarei. We have got people saying it is an issue in Auckland City. We have got people saying it is an issue in other parts of Northland. The question is if Parliament goes this far to quite rightly satisfy the request of a specific district and a specific council Thames-Coromandel District Council—Hon Scott Simpson: And Hauraki. Two councils.RON MARK: —right—then can we not have a conversation more broadly? We will look for that conversation in the select committee phase but at this point in time we think the bill has merit. The bill should go through to select committee and we will quite happily support that."