Collins JudithHon JUDITH COLLINS (National—Papakura): Thank you Madam Speaker. Thanks for the opportunity to take a short call on this bill. This is a bill that had a lot of the work done by the Hon Nikki Kaye. I don't think that Grant Robertson did anything at all actually other than to note in a Wellington Central meeting that he did think that there were some really good points in the bill but the Government wasn't supporting it. I was with Nikki Kaye at a meeting with Phil Twyford who was then the Minister of Housing in 2018 where we suggested that the Government take over the bill and actually turn it into a Government bill so that it could have all the work done that the Government was saying needed to be done and that request was refused. So I don't think we should suggest that this is—in any way shape or form—a Government bill. I think the current Minister of Housing is correct though to support this bill and I'm pleased to see that sort of cross-party support for it.We all know those of us who have lived in apartments instead of a freehold single-unit property that living in an apartment in a body corporate situation is significantly not the same as living in a freehold property with land around it and your neighbours a wee way away. There is required a significantly more respectful acknowledgment of the fact that your neighbours are upstairs downstairs and beside you and that consequently when we get to some of the horror stories that come from apartments it is not just that people are being picky; sometimes it's because the way of life that some people undertake is actually not suitable for apartment living. At this stage we are currently living in an apartment as we have more renovations done to our house but we are living in an apartment block where there are no animals allowed. So there are real restrictions on people's decisions and that is something which people know when they buy into or rent into these properties: that there are restrictions.This however is a bill that deals with things such as the issues around long-term maintenance programmes the ability of people who are buying into properties to actually understand what the costs might be. I think it's a real shame that we see sometimes properties advertised as having no body corporate fees. What that generally means is that they're a cross-lease which by the way brings its own issues. But there is this sort of myth around and I don't know whether it's because of the stories about leaky apartments—I mean you could say the same about leaky houses and leaky anything else too—but it is important that we address the fact that we do need to have more people able to access apartment living in a way that gets them housed.I look at the fact that the United Kingdom is slightly smaller than New Zealand in size they have 68 million people; we have 5 million people and we can't house the people that we've got. There's something incredibly wrong. That's why I support the ability of housing to be intensified in ways to get people housed. It is an absolute disgrace that property in this country costs so much. It is an absolute disgrace that we have people 25000-plus on the State house waiting list. It is an absolute disgrace that we don't have enough housing for people. There is no reason other than restrictive use of land the cost of land the fact that we have so many rules. And we're worrying about leaky homes; we should be worrying about the fact that we've got people in tents and living under bridges. It's about time that we do have an obligation to make sure that people have an opportunity to purchase a home; to have a stake in the ground as such; to be able to have something to leave to their children—an opportunity to be part of a property-owning democracy and to know that nobody can kick them out of their accommodation. That is something that we should celebrate.I'm very happy to have been the member whose name this bill was in and I'm very happy also to pass it over to Nicola Willis who is already doing a fantastic job in the portfolio. Thank you.