Peters Winston: General Debate 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Peters Winston: General Debate 
[Sitting date: 17 October 2012. Volume:684;Page:5900. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) 
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 So Mr Shearer is no John Key? Well maybe Bill English is right because I do not know Mr Shearer to be full of bulldust I do not understand him to be racked with amnesia and I do not understand him to be a “spray and walk away” merchant. 
Who knew about Kim Dotcom? Well that man who just sat down did Bill English and he sought to not disclose a public disclosure matter. The Hon Jonathan Coleman the then Minister of Immigration got Dotcom here in the first place. The Hon Maurice Williamson the Minister for Land Information approved the Chrisco deal of sale to Kim Dotcom. Simon Power the then Associate Minister of Finance and Minister of Justice declined Dotcom’s purchase of the Chrisco mansion and got Williamson to do a U-turn. 
Who else knew? John Banks knew—well he did know back then. The New Zealand Police the Organised and Financial Crime Agency of New Zealand and hundreds of others all knew about Dotcom. And we have seen the backtracking from the Prime Minister. First he said he was told about Dotcom the night before the raid. That was demonstrably false. He knew in February this year about the Government Communications Security Bureau involvement in the Dotcom case. We know that he was briefed by the bureau in February on three separate occasions. But things are heating up. The information we are getting in is getting us closer and closer to the Prime Minister. 
In April 2011 Simon Power was in a bit of a pickle about Dotcom’s Overseas Investment Office application. Although his colleague Maurice Williamson had rubber-stamped the document as Maurice always does Power was not so sure. He wanted further advice and on 18 July Power declined Dotcom’s application and phoned the Prime Minister to tell him—except that the Prime Minister has no recollection. Why would Power call the Prime Minister’s office to relay that information to him if it did not get to him? More importantly what happened on 17 April 2011 and 18 July 2011? Well we have found out from a written question that on 13 June 2011 Simon Power met the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister claimed in his reply to that written question—in his answer that is—“no record no recollection”. Yet today when asked “can he assure the House that Mr Power did not raise the subject of Kim Dotcom at that 13 June 2011 meeting?” he said yes. One of those answers is palpably demonstrably false. 
Is this man’s memory improving with age? He could not remember about the June 2011 meeting and answer and today leapt to his feet to give an assurance. Frankly that will not do. He is caught out again. We have already got two apologies from him and here will come the third one. I hope that this time we are not delayed weeks and weeks and weeks on the most demonstrable apparent deceit and in my view a breach of the privileges of this House and a contempt of Parliament—all in one. 
His answer today cannot be correct. He said that there was no such conversation between Mr Power and himself. But he could not remember when he on record read it out in the House. He cannot remember the Tranz Rail shares. He cannot remember the winery that he did not have a stake in. He cannot remember the BMWs that he was involved in. “Don’t know can’t remember”—these are the words that will be the legacy of this Prime Minister and they will come back to haunt him because the good news is Mr Brownlee that there is lots more to come. If the Government even dreamt that this is going to go away if it even dreamt that the issue is going to go away it should wake up and apologise now.