Woods Megan; Dean JacquiSecond ReadingHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Housing): I move That the Residential Tenancies (Healthy Homes Standards) Amendment Bill be now read a second time. In this second reading speech I will just give a relatively quick call. A number of questions have been raised by members in this House many of them that need to be addressed but I will address those in the committee of the whole House stage.Sometimes this House does have to be pragmatic. Sometimes this House does have to look at a compliance issue and say Are there issues beyond the control of individuals that mean that we risk having laws that put people in the position of breaking the law?"Now we'd all like to see all our houses compliant. I don't think there is anybody who is voting in favour of this extension that wants to see houses non-compliant and people's homes non-compliant with this. But what we do have to do with our lawmaking is make sure we are not setting up situations where we are knowingly putting people in the position of breaking the law. Having warm safe and dry homes for people is at the core of what we as a Labour Government put at the heart of our wellbeing. We know that from warm dry and safe houses all the other wellbeings flow—whether that be community connectedness whether that be employment whether that be health all the other things that are absolutely at the core of our mission.But we also know that we have had severe constraints on our supply chains and our ability to access people's homes since the period when these regulations were put into place in 2019. There are still many tenants particularly in the community housing sector and for Kāinga Ora who have some reticence about tradespeople entering their home. So it may not be just for the ability to actually access the home that they cannot apply. As a landlord of some of the most vulnerable people in this country we need to work through those issues with some sensitivity. There are still a number of people who are quite frightened particularly elderly people about strangers who they do not know entering their home and risk being exposed to COVID-19. That is not something that I am willing to force on our tenants when we have options in front of us.Before we get too excited that this means that all of our homes are not warm dry and safe I think we just need to pause reflect and think about what we have achieved. When we passed these regulations in 2019 we did not have a requirement for any homes to be compliant. We now in our Kāinga Ora stock have 68 percent of our homes fully compliant with the remainder—just to let Mr Bishop know how we get to the 84 percent—that takes us to the 84 percent currently have the work under way. They're not in planning. They're not in the pipeline. There are tradespeople in those homes getting those homes up to standard now. That is a vast improvement if we think during a period where we faced a global pandemic that we have been able to achieve those kind of levels.I want to congratulate the private landlords that have been able to make gains. But to say that private landlords have outstripped Kāinga Ora simply isn't true. If you have a look at the regulatory impact statement you'll actually see the reverse of those numbers—that actually it's around 15 percent on that Kantar survey of private landlords that were compliant with 70 percent who had made moves to become compliant but were not fully compliant. But I think if we look at the numbers in a really pragmatic way what we can see is probably 85 percent of the targets we set before a global pandemic affected supply chains and labour markets is about the capacity of the market at the moment.That is why we are making these changes. They are adding a year to everybody and to give everyone time for them to come up to standard. But of course it is our wish that people do this as quickly as they can.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): The question is that the motion be agreed to."