Jackson WillieHon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister of Employment): I have to back up that magnificent speech there from my colleague Peeni Henare particularly with his challenge to the other side who are very silent tonight because they're still in deep depression after the Māori takeover of the National Party. I know it bothers them—I know it bothers them—and we can barely get a word out of them now but we know that Simon will come to the aid of Peeni Henare after tonight—CHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe): Simon Bridges.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Simon Bridges—that's his name. I knew that. Nō Ngāti Maniapoto too—Ngāti Maniapoto are very proud. They've said that they're backing him now going into the future. Originally they disowned him but they'll take a bet both ways.I just want to compliment the Minister on her fantastic work. Finally we're going to get some action in this area. In particular I want to comment on clause 207 where we're looking at customs—this clause restricts customs' power to search data in electronic devices in comparison to the current Act. It's a very important clause this particularly if we're looking to increase customs officers' powers in terms of their powers of search. It goes to the line in terms of: are we breaching civil liberties? What sort of power do customs officers have? Will they just search National Party members as they come through the terminal perhaps looking through their phones? They have this opportunity to access telephones go through profiles and so it goes to an area where many in the House have argued that customs officers and people at the airport—they should not have that opportunity that they should not have that option. It does this by setting out thresholds and other safeguards that are designed to protect privacy.Tonight I would ask the Minister: have we got the balance right? Have we got the balance right in terms of this clause and in terms of how far we go? Are we mindful of our people's rights Kiwis' rights New Zealanders' rights with regards to their privacy with regards to what they're doing in terms of their telephones? What is private and what is not? So the question is always: have we got the balance right? Are we giving too much power to some of the individuals? Will they bring their own political views to the line? There's always an opportunity there and we have to question that.So in particular it's a two-threshold test they say that would apply to the search of data in an electronic device by a customs officer. A test of reasonable cause to suspect relevant offending would be used for an initial search of a device—so very important there. To carry out a full search—that is forensic search—of a device a customs officer must have reasonable cause to believe that the device contained evidential material relating to relevant offending. So again we ask of the Minister in the chair Meka Whaitiri: have we got the balance right? Are our civil liberties being breached as New Zealanders? In this Chamber it's only right we ask those questions of ourselves. We want to be security conscious—we want to be security conscious—but how far do we go in terms of exercising powers for our customs officers? How far do we want to reach how much do want to accord our customs officers how many rights do they have and when do our rights start and finish?So I think New Zealanders out there would want to hear some assurances from our Minister in terms of the powers that are being exercised in terms of the balance in terms of bias in terms of prejudice—where are we going with this? We're a Labour Government who are concerned with the rights of all citizens—of all New Zealand citizens—unlike the National Party who would just make a declaration. No we'll go through a process—a proper process—where we'll look at the rights and the powers and the balance for all New Zealanders and I think we're on the right track. Kia ora.