5. KiwiBuild—Workforce and Meetings with MinisterHon JUDITH COLLINS (National—Papakura) to the Minister of Housing and Urban DevelopmentKiwiBuild—Workforce and Meetings with Minister5. Hon JUDITH COLLINS (National—Papakura) to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Does he stand by all his statements and actions in the House?Hon PHIL TWYFORD (Minister of Housing and Urban Development): Yes except on the rare occasion where I misspoke. I particularly stand by my statement following the Leader of the Opposition's Budget reply speech that I'm going to call it: the biggest winner of … 2018 was Judith Collins' leadership ambitions."SPEAKER: Order! I'm now going to warn the member. He is developing along with one or two other Ministers the habit of putting additions on answers after he has answered the question. Like questions they should be succinct answers and once a question has been answered the member doesn't need to add to it especially in a way that's likely to lead to disorder or discomfort in the House. Hon Judith Collins: Thank you Mr Speaker. So what changed since his statement regarding KiwiBuild yesterday that the Government is "not planning on bringing workers in from overseas." to the Government today announcing that they will be doing exactly that?Hon PHIL TWYFORD: Nothing changed; I was simply reacting to the absurd suggestion that the whole workforce for KiwiBuild would be imported from overseas. Our policy this Government's policy has always been that to respond to the legacy of nine years of under-investment in the construction industry workforce we would not only invest in growing the local workforce but we would bring in skilled tradespeople from overseas just as the former Government did after the earthquakes in Christchurch. Hon Judith Collins: Before he told Parliament yesterday that the Government is "not planning on bringing workers in from overseas." what discussions had he had with the Hon Jenny Salesa the Minister for Building and Construction about bringing in 1500 KiwiBuild visa workers from overseas to build KiwiBuild houses?Hon PHIL TWYFORD: The member's continual fake surprise at this Government announcing and rolling out long-established policy won't cut any ice with thousands of Kiwi homebuyers who were denied the opportunity to have homeownership for nine long years under that Government. It's never been our policy to import wholesale the workforce from overseas. It's always been to grow the New Zealand workforce here in a way that the former Government never bothered to do.Hon Judith Collins: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I asked about discussions that the Minister had had with the Hon Jenny Salesa. I don't believe that he addressed that issue.SPEAKER: He didn't. He will answer now.Hon PHIL TWYFORD: I've had many discussions with the Hon Jenny Salesa.Hon Judith Collins: To assist the Minister I seek leave to table a briefing from the Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment from December 2017 titled "KiwiBuild visa settings".SPEAKER: Is there any objection to that? There appears to be none. It will be tabled.Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.Hon Judith Collins: When he told Parliament yesterday that he "met with a director and president of another organisation who are acting as intermediaries for the China Development Bank" what was that organisation?Hon PHIL TWYFORD: I was asked to do this meeting by the member's former colleague Marama Fox—to meet with these officials who are intermediaries of the China Development Bank. I meet with many banks but I can also confirm that I have never dined with a Chinese border official.SPEAKER: Order! The member will now answer the question.Hon PHIL TWYFORD: I don't recall the name of the organisation of the officials I met with but if the member wants to put a written question down or a primary I will gladly get that information for her.Hon Judith Collins: At this meeting on—Hon Gerry Brownlee: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Apologies to my colleague but Mr Speaker I'd ask you to reflect on that last answer. When the Minister in earlier questions said that he had been mistaken about this he must have done some research to find out what the mistake was. You hardly find out that you've made a mistake if you don't know what the mistake was or who the mistake was about—therefore he has not given an answer to the House.SPEAKER: And I've got a lot of sympathy for the member and his point of order. Unfortunately I don't have responsibility for the quality of the answers.Hon Judith Collins: At this meeting on 31 May that the Minister now tells he doesn't now recall who the intermediaries were who else was at that meeting?Hon PHIL TWYFORD: I reject the member's assertion. That's not actually what I said.Hon Judith Collins: Well who was at the meeting?Hon PHIL TWYFORD: I met with a gentleman by the name of Anthony Wilson. The answer to the question before was that I didn't remember the name of the organisation. I believe the man is a consultant."