Logie JanJAN LOGIE (Green): It's a pleasure to take a call in Part 2 of the Fair Pay Agreements Bill. I substantively want to speak to my Supplementary Order Paper 271 in this part but first I just do need to respond to some of the speeches that I've heard from the National Party. I've got to start by saying I'm a little bit worried for Paul Goldsmith. Not being able to differentiate between the threat of death and war and the opportunity for better pay and conditions in your workplace must make operating in the world quite threatening I think. I am a little bit worried for that member and suggest he may need to talk to somebody to try and work that through.I do just need to say that some of the arguments I'm hearing about the small businesses and those examples around family-run businesses—we are not the only country in the world that has family-run businesses. We are an outlier in not having sector-based bargaining in terms of comparable countries. Others have worked this through and it has not destroyed their family-run businesses. It's completely possible.Also I just need to speak to that sense of the threat of the unions and the powerlessness of the businesses that I'm hearing represented. That is not the imbalance of power that our employment law recognises; the imbalance of power is traditionally understood as the other way round. If businesses feel that they can't represent themselves then there is opportunity for upskilling for them in this process and I would encourage them to do that. This process at its heart is about hearing from people and sitting down together and working out those minimum standards. I do want to speak to the point around freedom of association and how that is as Minister Wood said affirmed in this part of the legislation. However part of it is affirmed in this legislation and part of it is actively undermined by the removal of the right to strike in relation to fair pay agreements. The right to strike is covered by international jurisprudence in the context of freedom of association. This has been well understood and protected through the International Labour Organization and international labour standards since 1957. This is a very longstanding right because there's a recognition of that imbalance of power. We've seen that recently in terms of the firefighters striking and part of their strike has been telling us and the public actually the reality of what is going on in their stations and the risk that poses to public safety. That strike has been while not yet resolved incredibly important for our country. Without them striking and telling us that information actually what we've heard and what we're still seeing play out is there would not be resolution or hope of resolution.We've also seen the importance of striking for our allied health staff and that that is what made the difference which was again about protecting our health system. We have seen the value of striking and fair pay agreements could accommodate—and I and the Greens believe should accommodate—that right in terms of the bargaining process. Germany's equivalent of the fair pay agreement does have the right to strike with some caveats to it and they've got some of the highest levels of productivity in the world and some of the best wages. That's what we're after. For the Greens we recognise the right to strike as a fundamental right in playing for individuals and the collective as well as democracy and we are proposing that it is restored to this bill.