Kuriger Barbara; O'Connor GregBARBARA KURIGER (National—Taranaki-King Country): It never fails to amaze me how the connection between putting higher costs on gas extraction or not actually extrapolates its way up to the customer. Today all we hear about is the bread and butter and the higher cost of living and what the Government's doing about it and the National Party cannot see any connection between what's going on here and keeping the costs down for members of the New Zealand public—because there is no connection. We've been really disappointed tonight in that we have not received the answers that we needed to receive in the interests of making good legislation.I remember back to 2018 and I often refer to the former member of Parliament for Taranaki Jonathan Young who was our energy spokesperson who predicted everything that would happen after that 2018 legislation—I often refer to it as Jonathan Young's crystal ball. The Hon Megan Woods at that time said to Jonathan Young Well don't worry the sky is not falling in." Well I can tell you that we've gone to 20 percent of the available reserves now than we had back then and now the reserves that we have got we are failing to get clear answers from the Minister about in the detail around this bill. It's a very thin bill. It hasn't got a lot on it. It obviously needs a little bit more. We've been looking for the definition of a deposit.Now in 2018 as we know there were no more permits to be issued offshore. So if this is in fact a new deposit it can't come from a new offshore field. So we are actually grappling over here to understand—we know that technology improves all the time and we know that these industry groups are spending millions of dollars on new technology that can actually extract more from the same field. So we don't actually know—it's not clear to us and the Minister has not been able to explain to us tonight—exactly what this new deposit is.We're also very unclear about the lack of consultation. Back in 2018 the select committee refused to come to Taranaki to talk to something that would affect Taranaki greatly and now tonight we're even refused the possibility of having a select committee. So when asked "Has there been any consultation?" no there's been no external consultation. But then someone approached the officials in December—that is six months ago. Why are we standing in the House in urgency not being told why or what were the reasons or has there been another field found? It seems like there may not have been or there may have been. Nothing seems to be very clear tonight but it's taken six months from that event when somebody in the industry approached the officials and now we're sitting here six months later doing something in urgency getting no explanations and not understanding what this extra royalty is going to apply to.Now if it was something new we could understand that but we're not convinced that that fits under this bill. And when you go back to someone—sorry not you Mr Speaker. But when the Government goes back to someone after 37 years to change the rules I think it's fair for this Parliament to understand a lot more detail than what we've been able to get hold of tonight. We were first told that there was no regulatory impact statement on the grounds that it had no or only minor impacts on businesses individuals and not-for-profit entities. And then in the Minister of Energy and Resources' speech she talked about millions and then when we had the committee stage the Minister actually said $50 million.So the whole story as we've been going tonight feels like all of this has been made up on the fly. Whether it was written overnight last night we're not sure but it just seems to be a very bad way to do legislation. If you give people the same information when they're making a decision—I know in Parliament we often have different views but you've got more chance of getting people on the same page if all of the information is available. Even though the lights are on here in urgency in Parliament tonight we feel very much in the dark around what has happened. For that reason we are unable to support this bill. Thank you Mr Speaker.DEPUTY SPEAKER: Meka Whaitiri."