5. Police Resourcing—Numbers and FundingRON MARK (Deputy Leader—NZ First) to the Minister of PolicePolice Resourcing—Numbers and Funding5. RON MARK (Deputy Leader—NZ First) to the Minister of Police: Does she stand by all her statements; if so how?Hon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Police): Yes; as to how with confidence and clarity and I have been told just occasionally a little bit of charm.Ron Mark: How does she reconcile her Government's promise in 2008 to maintain a ratio of one police officer for every 500 people with her own admission in August that it has slipped" to one for every 526 people?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Obviously the figures that I have given the member are absolutely correct and clearly I stand by them.Ron Mark: Why is she claiming credit for the only increase to police numbers that has ever occurred under this Government back in 2009 when that increase had been committed to and announced by the previous Government through the New Zealand First confidence and supply agreement?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Clearly that member is wrong but I would also say to him that there is a huge difference between promising and delivering. This Government delivers.Ron Mark: In her last sojourn as Minister of Police before she was replaced why did she freeze the Police budget in 2010?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: I actually did not hear what that member said halfway through his question. Would he like to repeat it?Mr SPEAKER: I will allow the member to repeat the question.Ron Mark: Thank you. Why in her last sojourn as the Minister of Police before she was replaced did she freeze the Police budget in 2010?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Clearly I was not replaced; I was promoted.Ron Mark: Did she really have meetings with the Prime Minister in June about police resourcing considering she has not been able to release dates reports and briefings related to those meetings which were requested under the Official Information Act (OIA) by New Zealand First 2 months ago?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Yes I did.Ron Mark: I seek leave to table—[Interruption]Mr SPEAKER: Order! I need to hear it; I cannot do that with interjections. Can the member start again.Ron Mark: I seek the leave of the House to table an OIA request dated 11 August which was extended to 29 September and still has not been answered—Mr SPEAKER: Order! I do not need that part; I just need a description of it. I do not need detail about whether it has been responded to with alacrity or not.Ron Mark: Oh I am sorry. I apologise for that. I am still seeking the leave though.Mr SPEAKER: You have not finished. Just describe the document and I will decide.Ron Mark: I seek leave to table an OIA request dated 11 August which was extended to 27 September seeking information around those meetings that I have just asked a question about.Mr SPEAKER: So it is not a response to an OIA request; it is simply a request?Ron Mark: It is just our OIA—Mr SPEAKER: Order! I am not going to put the leave. I have pointed out to members on many occasions that the point of putting leave is to inform members not to make a political point and that is exactly what I think the member is attempting to do.Ron Mark: Point of order.Mr SPEAKER: I hope we are not relitigating—Ron Mark: No. I just need your guidance Mr Speaker.Mr SPEAKER: I have given my guidance.Ron Mark: Can you quote the Standing Order so that we are for ever informed and guided by an actual Standing Order?Mr SPEAKER: I will certainly come back to the member with the relevant Speaker's ruling. It is one that I issued early on in my time as Speaker. It is a very lengthy ruling and I gave it personally to the Rt Hon Winston Peters on one occasion in this House. I will have it delivered to the member immediately after question time.Ron Mark: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. This is a point of clarification to your ruling which I am not questioning. Are you saying—[Interruption] It is a point of order.Mr SPEAKER: Just move on quickly.Ron Mark: I just need to be clear that informing the House that we have lodged an OIA request is not of value to you.Mr SPEAKER: No it is not. It has no value at all and I would be grateful—[Interruption] Order! I would be grateful if the member now waits for this piece of paper to be delivered to his office after question time and has a good read of it so that we do not have this issue raised further.Ron Mark: Why should anyone take anything she or this Government says on policing matters seriously when they have frozen the Police budget since 2010 reneged on election promises to maintain the police per capita ratio have claimed credit that belongs to New Zealand First through its support and agreement with the previous Government and continue to close police stations in exchange for iPhones and iPads?Hon JUDITH COLLINS: There were about five questions there so I will choose one. I would ask that member how he can possibly say there is a frozen budget when Police got an extra almost $300 million in this year's Budget. That shows me that he clearly has not read the Budget documents."