Woods MeganHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Housing): I will take a short call here and address some of the questions that have occurred over the last three or so speeches. I would like to make the point that when a member wants to hold a public servant to the level of political neutrality that I also believe they should be held to then there are actually some conventions of this House around attacking politically neutral public servants and not dragging them into a debate in a space where they cannot defend themselves. I think it has been deplorable what we have seen from that member in the Chamber tonight. That person is not here to defend themselves and of course there is an active Public Service Commission investigation under way which is the due and proper process in which that should be done. So I am very disappointed.The Opposition spokesperson from the National Party did ask me if I remember the select committee and being there when she was asking questions about a purchase of a property at Swanson Road. I remember it very vividly because the member was convinced that she had a smoking gun. It was when she was told that actually Kāinga Ora hadn't actually purchased the property that the wind went out of the sails of the member a little bit. She then asked the chief executive what the valuation had been. He said off the top of his head he thought this was the number. He then found he had made an error and he wrote to the committee off his own back saying he had made an error in an answer and wanted to correct it. I come from a school of thought where I believe humans are human and people sometimes do make errors when they're recalling numbers from the top of their head. And when you have the chance to correct it and you do of your own volition then actually I think that is called putting it right.I'd also like to address some questions that were put to me by Jan Logie who asked about some of the constraints that we were seeing—was it funding or were there further constraints? And the member said that we'd seemed to have only scaled up and been delivering at the same scale for the last three years. I'd like to point the member to the figures that I read out at the beginning of this session that actually we're tooling up our public housing organisation from being an organisation that sold off our public houses over the tenure of the previous Government and had forgotten how to build houses—it didn't have the skills and it had to be rebuilt in order to do that. I think we've seen a phenomenal turnaround of that organisation in the ability to deliver at the very high levels that we are. Of course there are going to be COVID implications and lockdowns that have to be taken into account. But of course there are constraints that exist out there one of which is sector itself. Workforce is a critical one and it's why this Government has put so much effort into apprenticeships and why Kāinga Ora itself is a leader in terms of the build partnership agreements it has with the private sector that it works with. There have been many many apprentices that have gone through and are part—every time I visit a Kāinga Ora site it seems that I'm meeting more and more apprentices who not only are building and rebuilding the public houses that were sold off under the previous National Government but are actually learning a trade and the skills required to do it.She also asked Could we do more if we work with councils and iwi?" Well we are. The community housing sector is receiving funding unlike they've ever seen before simply because we are building at a scale that has not been seen since the 1970s. And of course we have put significant money into iwi partnerships papakāinga but also with iwi Māori organisations. We also know that there is more work that we need to do around this and there's new challenges such as supply chain constraints that have been thrown up. And I'll leave my answers there."