O'Connor SimonSIMON O'CONNOR (National—Tāmaki): Fantastic. Thank you Mr Chair. I'm very much looking forward to this which is effectively the new Part 2. I do acknowledge what the Minister indicated earlier which is effectively a good chunk of this was Part 1. It's been moved into this—it's not a new Part 2; it's a revision of a previous Part 2. However what's fairly important is there are a number of new sections and I'd like to focus particularly on clause 8 which is introducing a new section 6AAA under the notion Unregistered person must not claim to be [a] social worker" which I suppose is the crux of a lot of the debate tonight. But the first issue and it was not addressed in the previous section and it's now arising again—in fact it's beginning to indicate the problems that I mentioned—talk once here again—CHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe): I think that's in Part 1.SIMON O'CONNOR: No I'm pretty sure it's in—I do apologise. I'm looking at Part 2 here "Registration authorisation to practise …". Happy to be corrected. It's the Supplementary Order Paper (SOP).CHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe): So what was that clause again sorry?SIMON O'CONNOR: So I'm looking at page 12 on the SOP entitled Part 2 and it begins on page 11. CHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe): Yes that's definitely in Part 1. If you have look in the top left-hand corner. SIMON O'CONNOR: So we've got Part 2 in Part 1? Well this is getting very confusing. CHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe): Yes that's a new Part 2 in the principal Act.SIMON O'CONNOR: Right. Easy enough. Well actually I think Mr Chair what this indicates is the fundamental problem which myself and others have been pointing out of a rushed process an incredibly rushed process which is now leading to actually not even ambiguous wording but actually some members of the committee and myself included have been here a while and are going through a rushed SOP clearly indicating a numbering system—and actually as someone who was speaking on Part 1 has now actually lost the right to speak on that. So moving now to the new Part 2 which is Part 2 of Part 2 but not Part 2 of Part 1—Hon Members: Ha ha!SIMON O'CONNOR: Would you like me to repeat that for you?We're having what are the consequential amendments to two other Acts and the primary one as has been indicated is around the Criminal Records (Clean Slate) Act. I'd really appreciate if the Greens would take a call because they have often been great champions and if it's going to be a clean slate it must be a clean slate. We have here and I would be quite supportive of the fact that those going into social work—that the clean slate in effect doesn't fully apply; that actually if there's been something in the background and it's been swept aside we need to know. As it's indicated here a new section 19(3)(d) needs to insert—actually once again we've got a problem here in numbering which I think is going to cause—in fact that's a question in itself.We have a situation developing here in the new Part 2 where a rather confusing section is going to be developed. We're going to have Part 2 clause 70 subclause (2) which seeks to then insert into obviously the existing section section 19 subsection (3)(d) then paragraph (da)—I suppose why I'm drawing that out is that this is something incredibly incredibly important which is that the registration board has to consider "whether an individual is a fit and proper person to be registered". So as I say when it comes to the clean slate Act I think it's prudent. I would welcome the Green Party to say whether they support that because they've always been incredibly vocal proponents that once it's been cleared it shouldn't be brought up again. But actually my point that I was going to raise earlier on the Part 2 which wasn't Part 2 is the definition again of "person". We continue and hopefully the Minister may respond this time—of what a person is. It is the question of whether they are a natural—CHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe): The committee's already accepted that. We're now into Part 2. SIMON O'CONNOR: We are but we haven't actually discussed the reason for "person"—the definition between whether they're a natural or legal person. So whether a proper person fit and proper—does that apply to what's known as a natural person?"