SpeechHARETE HIPANGO (National): Thank you Madam Speaker. The debate in the House has been rather enlightening this evening.I don't intend it to be any pun but with the lighting up of this discussion it's certainly triggered a lot of memories. My parents were smokers; my mother died of lung cancer. During the course of mum's lifetime she attempted to give up smoking and she did. And she made the conscientious decision to do so without any medical intervention.Now I am saying that that was her experience. My father who was Māori was a smoker also for most of his lifetime. Intermittent periods of giving up smoking without medicinal medical support. It was mind over matter for them. What was the driving factor for them to finally terminate a lifelong commitment to smoking was for them to be around a lot longer for their mokopuna. So what I'm saying is the motivating driving factor for everybody is different.To stand in this House and speak after sitting and listening to members across the House criticise my colleague Dr Shane Reti—who has been a medical practitioner of a number of decades dedicated to saving lives—and suggesting for a moment that he doesn't prioritise the importance of saving lives and also to suggest that the National Party is of that same standing and mind is quite frankly galling.Also to hear the suggestion that the National Party members did not front to a public meeting. To put it in context two of my colleagues—only two of 11—sit on the Health Committee. So the expectation that two members can be everywhere when necessary is not an indication.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa): If I could just remind the member: before I called her I did actually say there was a Speaker's ruling about referring to members of select committee and their absences. Can we please move on. Make a different point.HARETE HIPANGO: Madam Speaker noted. In saying that the committee process—I was not a member of the Health Committee—this bill which is the Smokefree Environments and Regulated Products (Smoked Tobacco) Amendment Bill was referred to the committee on 26 July 2022. There were some 1927—although my colleague Dr Reti indicated 1965 and if that's the case the record needs to be amended in terms of what's been submitted back to the House—made submissions and there was oral evidence heard from 84 submitters.Now the National Party has filed a minority view which Dr Reti has spoken to at some detail. Not having been privy to the detail of that select committee but I am privy and do know that the champion for Smokefree Aotearoa 2025 is a relation of mine Dame Tariana Turia. And driving this campaign with her at the time—back in I believe the bill passed its first reading back in December 2010—were champions and continue to be champions.But I am also aware that there comes a time too when: how much does the Government take responsibility for driving these health matters? How much more investment does the Government put into people's lives in driving and determining what is best for them?I started this speech by referring to my parents both as smokers. They made a determination they made a choice—without Government intervention—to decide what was the most compelling factor for them during their lifetime and it was their grandchildren.I won't talk further to this bill. My colleague has outlined in the minority view the differing view and there will be colleagues who did sit on that select committee talk further to it. I commend the bill to the House.