Naylor Jono: Annual Review Debate — In CommitteeText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeNaylor Jono: Annual Review Debate — In Committee[Sitting date: 03 May 2016. Volume:713;Page:10721. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]JONO NAYLOR (National): I know that the Labour Party members were keen to take some more calls and I was almost tempted to actually give them one because I was missing out on my dose of fiction this evening after two weeks of adjournment and having the opportunity to watch a bit of fiction on television. I was getting a good dose of it from listening to the Labour Party speakers and it was tempting to listen to a few more.Can I just say being able to stand up and talk on this subject as a Government member is incredibly heartening. I feel incredibly proud to be able to stand up and talk about some of these things that have been achieved over the last 12 months in this review process. We have a Government that is not afraid to tackle the hard issues. We have Ministers in these portfolios who are prepared to face up to where things could be better and to actually do something about it and I stand here with a sense of pride in being part of a Government that is doing some great work in this area. There are almost too many things to talk about. Some of them have been touched on but actually there is an incredible number of things that are really great that are going on that we can be proud of.For a start I just want to touch briefly on the overhaul of Child Youth and Family. This is a critical thing that needed to be done. It was long overdue and I think we would all agree that the results of the things we were seeing for children in care simply were not good enough. Over the years as the Minister for Social Development has said we have had fantastic people who have worked on the front lines in our social services. They have been doing great work with the tools that they have had but it is time for us to actually realise that some of the processes that we have got do need to come together and work a little bit better.I have reflected on this when we were talking about other legislation. I remember being a social worker 20 years ago—and I still now have the dilemma in my own head—and when you uplifted children wondering whether you were actually in fact inflicting more harm on them by bringing them into State care than if you were to leave them in that situation. It is a horrible dilemma to be in so that is why we have got a Minister who is leading the charge to ensure that Child Youth and Family will have the overhaul that is required to ensure that we put children at the forefront of what we are doing and that we improve the level of care and we improve the outcome for those children if they are going to have the State providing them with the role of parent. I am looking forward to seeing those changes as they come through.We have heard a lot of talk this evening about housing and there is this myth that has been put out there that the Government is sort of flogging off every single State house that is out there. The way it has been talked about—Louisa Wall: Not every single one; just 6000 of them.JONO NAYLOR: No but the way it has been talked about is overinflated in terms of proportion. You know we are talking about approximately 1500 houses out of the 60000-odd houses that are in Government stock. I for one have got to say that just because we had the really good idea some years ago that actually there would be a State housing service provided—it has been a good service. It has meant that people have been able to get into housing and it has done reasonably well. But that does not mean it was the last great idea when it comes to social housing. We are looking to do some other things around social housing. We are looking to improve the service that people receive from the wraparound services that will be provided by community housing providers and it is just great to see that actually some foresight and some forward thinking is occurring.I went to Auckland the other week because I have heard so much about Auckland housing.Hon Simon Bridges: What were you doing?JONO NAYLOR: Well it was something that someone has got to do—you have got to go up there and have a look. I had heard so much disgruntled conversation and talk about the Tāmaki redevelopment programme. People were saying what a terrible thing this was and I thought that I should probably go and at least have a look to find out what was going on there and to see what the fuss was about. Well what I saw there was a whole lot of quite rundown not-fit-for-purpose old State houses sitting on pretty large sections that were not really necessarily being up-kept because they were too big for people to look after. But actually what is happening now is that those 2500 houses that are sitting there are becoming 7500 houses over time. There will still be the same amount of community social housing provision there but there will also be another 5000 houses that will be warm that will be dry and that will be fit for purpose for the people who will occupy them. This will ensure that we are starting to address the need for more houses in Auckland.There are good things going on in this space and this Government is making sure that we are moving ahead not stuck in the past not just sticking to the old ways of doing things—