Volume 698 Week 71 - Wednesday 7 May 2014(continued on Thursday 8 May 2014)Text is incorporated into the Bound VolumeVolume 698 Week 71 - Wednesday 7 May 2014(continued on Thursday 8 May 2014)[Sitting date: 07 May 2014. Volume:698;Page:17641. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Wednesday 7 May 2014(continued on Thursday 8 May 2014)Te Urewera-Tūhoe BillSecond ReadingHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations): I moveThat the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill be now read a second time. This bill will enable the settlement of all historical Treaty claims of Ngāi Tūhoe. As is very well-known and does not need repetition here their grievances are significant longstanding and overdue for a just and a durable settlement. The bill reconnects Ngāi Tūhoe with Te Urewera and provides a firm foundation for improved relationships between the Crown and Ngāi Tūhoe.I know that we have some Tūhoe guests in the gallery so I simply want to say this to them: I do not think this is a time for long speeches. That can wait until the bill’s third reading but I do want to acknowledge the excellent work of the Māori Affairs Committee. Over the past 6 months the bill has been considered by the committee and I really do appreciate its consideration of the bill and the very close attention it paid to the issues raised in the submissions.Committee members considered 69 submissions from interested groups and individuals and heard 26 submitters. They held hearings in Whakatāne and in Wellington. So once again I congratulate the chair and the members on their tremendous work. I am grateful to those who took the time to make submissions on the bill. Their participation in the committee’s examination of a bill is an important component of Parliament’s consideration of Treaty settlement legislation. It was also very very encouraging to hear from many of those who support the bill. The committee has proposed a number of minor mostly technical changes to the bill and its report is most helpful in that regard.I acknowledge the work of the Tūhoe negotiators—two of whom are in the gallery this morning—the Minister of Conservation and other Ministers parliamentary colleagues departments and other agencies that have contributed to this bill. Concluding this settlement is one of the most significant achievements this Government has seen undertaken during its term. It addresses as I said some of the worst breaches of the Treaty in our history. I look forward to the bill progressing to its third reading to give effect to this very historic settlement. I commend the bill to the House.Hon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour—Hauraki-Waikato): I acknowledge the contribution of the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations and tend to agree that this is not the time for long speeches but it is the time to go through in some manner the issues that were raised before the Māori Affairs Committee in so far as the submissions on the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill were concerned. They were substantial in our view. We do have a thorough report Minister preceding the second reading which brings together the substance of our considerations. We in good faith to those submitters tried to whittle down the key components of their expectations and objections in some respects to aspects of this settlement.I do believe that the select committee got to the right place in its deliberations and I want to commend the officials for the way in which they helped advise on all but one issue which has been resolved by the select committee. I understand Minister that you will be continuing discussions on that front and perhaps the House will be of a mind to consider your response in the Committee stages.So let me go to the submission process. We went to Whakatāne and heard a number of submitters. We received around about 66 submissions in total—42 were in favour 14 were opposed and 10 presented a view neither one way or the other.Can I say that—as I work through the bill and try to give it some consideration—there were the issues around Ngāti Ruapani and there were the issues around the national park itself and aspirations for management and how that might take place and the consequent impact on groups like Fish and Game and that community and hunters. There was a very strong representation from Te Tira Whakaemi o Te Wairoa. Also there were some reflections in a number of submissions around public access provisions for Te Urewera and also how the management board would conduct its very important obligation for this wonderful place.As we work through each of those issues in some respects it was helpful to know that the Minister had given an indication to Ngāti Ruapani that there would be a process for them in terms of their settlement and that Onepoto would be set aside in terms of addressing their interests. That was certainly very helpful as we went through and considered the extent of their interest in Waikaremoana.The issue of the ownership of the lake bed came up. We sought advice from parliamentary counsel just to give confidence that what was actually said and intended in the legislation was indeed the case. The lake bed is not factored into this settlement. However we did receive submissions that tended to insinuate that the consequent effect of having a Te Urewera Board a management board for the national park estate would have an impact on the lake bed. We have clarified that within our commentary.We were also mindful that in regard to the Lake Waikaremoana reserves there was also a parallel process continuing through the Māori Land Court. During the course of our deliberations we received the judgment of Judge Fox and we were then in a position to pursue clarification around clause 91 I think it was and whether the interests in those 13 reserves could be transferred to the ahu whenua trust as was directed by Judge Fox. We received clarification from the Office of Treaty Settlements officials who assured us that yes that is the case.The other aspect that we were mindful of was in relation to Fish and Game’s interpretation of the management plans that will be developed and how it would infringe on their existing rights. I know that the Deputy Speaker being from the hunting community would be quite acutely aware of those types of interests. In all honesty I certainly expressed the view and members of the committee agreed that this is a new normal for many members of the wider community in so far as it is the intention in the way in which the Te Urewera Board will operate that management plans will be developed. There is the provision for consultation to occur but again all those issues will be lifted up to the board and have consequent effect not only on hunters and fishers but also on Tūhoe themselves in carrying out the obligation of the custodial protection of Te Urewera.The public access provisions in particular have been set out in clause 112(2) and also in clause 176(1)(d) where there are issues around public access—the creation of by-laws. Again I draw the attention of the House and members here to those provisions because to some extent people might have got it in their heads—and I know this was certainly the narrative prior to seeing the detail of the legislation—that if Tūhoe take over the management of Te Urewera then public access would be prevented. That is indeed not the case. It is clearly set out in the clauses of the bill where not only is public access preserved but for very specific reasons by-laws can be created to be able to limit public access for specific purposes. There is opportunity also through the management plans for the public to have input.So I think it is very important to again draw the attention of those listening to the debate on this bill with some intent to assure them that public access continues. There is a management regime in place. There is the opportunity for public input. There are provisions for better management tools to be implemented for specific reasons and we should be confident that a board with the range of interests represented can approach the long-term management and caring for Te Urewera in a way that better meets the needs of everyone in the community.I am very pleased out of all the settlement bills that we have got to with the committee’s report and I thank the chair of the Māori Affairs Committee for being so accommodating to all the concerns that have been raised by the members. Your accommodation of those concerns allowed us to pursue with some vigour aspects that needed to be done so that when this bill goes to its third reading it has the full support I hope of members of this House.Minister can I just lastly assure you that should your discussions with Ngāti Manawa and Tūhoe be successful to the degree that we are able to sort out the issues of the transfer of the remaining two properties we would welcome further discussion in that space and we look forward to perhaps that detailed opportunity in the Committee stage. Tēnā tātou katoa.Hon Dr PITA SHARPLES (Minister of Māori Affairs): Tēnā koe Mr Deputy Speaker ā tēnā koutou kua hoki mai nei ki tēnei Whare o tātou ahakoa ēhara tēnei i te rā whakamutunga mō tēnei pire e haere tonu ngā kōrero kia whakaotia ai ākuanei. Nā reira tēnā koutou me ō koutou tini aituā nā koutou i tuku atu nā tātou nā reira waiho rātou ki a rātou. Ko te mea nui ko tā tātou kaupapa nei i whakahuitia tātou arā ko te pire nei. Tēnā koutou tēnā koutou nau mai whakapiri mai.[Thank you Mr Deputy Speaker. Salutations to you collectively who have returned here to this House of ours even though this is not the final day for this bill. Discussions to complete this stage will continue today. So greetings to you collectively with your many deaths whom you interred as we all do. So therefore allow them to remain there amongst themselves. This matter of ours this bill that assembled us here is the most important thing. Acknowledgments and congratulations to you collectively; welcome draw closer.]I am pleased to again rise in support of this bill the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill to address the historical grievances of Ngāi Tūhoe. When this bill was introduced to the House last year I said then that every New Zealander should know the history and stories of this country. I am pleased to announce that right now our Ministry of Education our tāhuhu is working on a whole scheme to set up a sort of a framework by which our history can be introduced into the school curriculum. Our history did not start with Captain Cook. All these things—the battles at Ōrākau and at Gate Pā and so on—are unknown to tauiwi. How can they understand what it is like to be mana whenua tangata whenua if they have not learnt that part of our history?Soon it will be in our curriculum. It will take a while to build up as each area contributes to the content but hopefully all students will learn about the history of the locality of the school the movement of tribes and hapū in past times the battles and then of course colonisation and the effect on language and how their grandmothers were punished for speaking Māori in school and so on. I think this is major and it is long overdue to inform the rest of New Zealand about our history in that time and even today so that schools can value their local marae know their local hapū and so on. I am really pleased that we have made progress in this particular area.First of all I would like to acknowledge Tau and the Māori Affairs Committee too like the other two speakers did. There is no doubt the committee did a really good job on this one in going out there as well as having a hearing here in Wellington. Thatcommittee really does go unthanked. I spent time on that committee and it does the groundwork that allows bills to go through in the final form.Upon reading the historical background to this settlement no fair-minded person could deny or dismiss the need to resolve the injustices that ensued. This bill documents a litany of disgraceful acts committed by the Crown against Ngāi Tūhoe over many generations. For its part the Crown apologises to Tūhoe for the indiscriminate raupatu wrongful killings and years of scorched earth warfare for denying Tūhoe the right of self-governing the Te Urewera reserve by subverting the Urewera District Native Reserve Act 1896 by excluding Tūhoe from the establishment of Te Urewera National Park over their homelands and for wrongfully treating Lake Waikaremoana as Crown property for many years.Tūhoe have always approached resolution of its disputes with the Crown in a principled and determined manner. Through this settlement the Crown has been given a second chance to bring honour to its ongoing relationship with Tūhoe. This bill contains a historical account of what happened in the past together with an apology and some redress. This bill provides a foundation for the future. This bill has the potential to produce transformative results for Tūhoe. It is late but here it is. History has shown that in order to build better and brighter futures for our tamariki our mokopuna and our whānau hapū and iwi must be involved in making the decisions that effect the future. Tūhoe have always stuck by the philosophy of taking care of their own a philosophy of self help—Tama tū tama ora; tama moe tama mate.[Those who are productive will survive and those who sit back will die or perish.]Through a social agreement to build the capacity of Ngāi Tūhoe members Ngāi Tūhoe are positioning themselves to manage their own affairs and improve the delivery of Government and iwi services to Tūhoe communities. The settlement is the enabler of a stronger Tūhoe economy. It is a lifeline that will help reinstate and redevelop Tūhoe independence and cultural permanency. These acts restore the honour of the Crown and rightly return to Tūhoe responsibility for their own health education housing planning justice and other infrastructural needs. The key principles underpinning negotiations between the Crown and Tūhoe centred on the premise that self-government is the basic principle of democracy and that Tūhoe has a democratic right to self-government. Ko tō mana motuhake ko tō Tūhoetanga. Ko tō Tūhoetanga tō mana motuhake. Ka kore tēnei ēhara noa tātou.[Your autonomy is your Tūhoeness; your Tūhoeness is your autonomy. Without this we will be nothing.]Tūhoe were not signatories to the Treaty of Waitangi and have always maintained their right to uphold their unique Tūhoe values—always—their culture their language and their identity within Tūhoe homelands. Through this settlement Tūhoe has a political authority and the arrangements necessary to serve the needs of Tūhoe their families and their communities in all aspects of their daily lives.This is an omnibus bill to be split at a later stage into the Tūhoe Claims Settlement Bill and Te Urewera Bill. The parts of the bill that will become Te Urewera Bill will lay out striking new arrangements for the governance and management responsibilities and obligations over Te Urewera. The bill creates an independent legal authority for Te Urewera. It recognises Te Urewera in her own right with her own identity. Te Urewera will be released from the shackles of Crown control and will be governed by Tūhoe and Crown nominees with Tūhoe having an increased role in management over time. Cultural values associated with Te Urewera will be captured in the bill. These include principles relating to the protection of biodiversity natural and historic heritage and public input into the management and future public access. Internationally agreements like these have been held up as important achievements for environmental protection.To promote its unique cultural values Tūhoe will seek international recognition of Te Urewera as a Unesco biosphere reserve.In the face of incredible injustice today we witness the incredible generosity of the families of Tūhoe pōtiki who wish to settle their grievances with the Crown. I want to acknowledge the sacrifice pain and injustice Ngāi Tūhoe has endured due to the actions and the omissions of the Crown.I would just like to acknowledge Minister Finlayson. This has been one of the most important areas of his work and he has been very very active time and time again to get the bill to this stage and soon to the final reading.Again I pay tribute to the sons and daughters ofHinepūkohurangifor their leadership and their mana. Tēnā koutou tēnā tatou.MEKA WHAITIRI (Labour—Ikaroa-Rāwhiti): Ā tēnā koe Mr Deputy Speaker. Tēnā tātou katoa ngā mema o te Whare nei. E te iwi kua tae mai i Tūhoe mana Tūhoe reo Tūhoe tangata nau mai nau mai hoki mai. Ka nui te mihi ki a koutou kua tae mai tēnā koutou katoa.[And so thank you Mr Deputy Speaker. Salutations to you all members of this House. To the tribe who have arrived from Tūhoe where status language and people prevail welcome welcome and welcome back. I acknowledge you greatly and commend you all.]I join with members of the House in rising in support of the second reading of a significant Treaty settlement bill the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill and to acknowledge the people who have been instrumental in presenting this bill to the House today. I join with all members in acknowledging the work that has gone before us and look forward to the third and final reading and passage of this bill.Our side of the House like all members of this House supports and acknowledges the reconciliation process for historical breaches of the Treaty between the Crown and Māori and we see the Waitangi Tribunal and the Treaty process as critical parts of that process. We acknowledge the commitment particularly of Ngāi Tūhoe to reach an agreement with the Crown today but we also acknowledge that it must be a durable settlement.Each settlement is unique and its redress components attempt to restore what has been taken and what can be preserved and developed for future generations. I am going to touch on those shortly. We also acknowledge that Treaty settlements are an important part of our modern identity and we hope that in this case Ngāi Tūhoe the Crown and our communities will better understand the conflict of our past and the commitment to resolve outstanding grievances in the hope of a shared future.The Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill gives effect to the deed of settlement signed on 4 June 2013 in which the Crown and Tūhoe agreed to the final settlement of the historical Treaty of Waitangi claims of Tūhoe. The deed of settlement sets out in full the redress provided to Tūhoe in settlement of all of their historical claims.Like with all calls I take on Treaty bills I try to find the unique difference in this bill and in each and every Treaty settlement bill that comes through this House. I particularly want to acknowledge—and there are many in this settlement—three unique aspects of this bill and acknowledge the innovation demonstrated by Ngāi Tūhoe negotiators. That is clearly Te Urewera and I acknowledge that giving an area of land its own legislation is unique.As far as our people are concerned our awas our maunga and our whenua are like our tīpuna and so giving Te Urewera its own legal structure is I think clearly innovative and I want to acknowledge that. Te Urewera will have its own legislation and exist as a separate legal entity. It will be governed by Tūhoe and Crown nominees to act in the best interests of Te Urewera. In reading the details it is a 50:50 split but the descending Crown representation and return to full Tūhoe governance is again quite innovative and I applaud both the negotiators and theMinister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations for agreeing to that for this taonga of Te Urewera.The other unique feature in this settlement is the mana motuhake redress which relates to improved relationships between Tūhoe and the Crown and the delivery of Government and iwi services to Tūhoe communities. Standing as a former negotiator I know that that was something that our iwi were interested in entering into. Obviously we did not have the kaha that Tūhoe have but I do acknowledge that you were able to get this in your package Tāmati. I know that having an influence on Government services that impact on your people’s lives is a critical step forward in helping manage what I believe are the issues that only we can tackle and they are the issues of our own people. So I do want to acknowledge that particular aspect in this bill.The third part is not so much a part but an absolute acknowledgment of the shared interest in the idyllic settlement of Waikaremoana. I want to again pay tribute to the manaaki and hūmārie way in which Ngāi Tūhoe negotiators have worked with all the people around Lake Waikaremoana: Ngāti Ruapani and of course Ngāti Kahungunu ki te Wairoa. I acknowledge that it is not often an easy thing to undertake. I do want to say that the way in which you have done that the door that you have opened and availed to the people of Tūai and Lake Waikaremoana knowing that often it is not an easy process when we have historic challenges around whakapapa—I do just want to go on record as saying that I appreciate the way and manner in which that has been done.For the people of Waikaremoana Tūhoe Ngāti Ruapani and Ngāti Kahungunu ki te Wairoa in terms of their interests in the Waikaremoana lake bed and surrounding reserve lands—clearly in the Māori Affairs Committee process we received submissions from various groups to ensure that their interests around the lake bed and reserve lands surrounding it were going to be protected. I am very happy with the consideration given the examination by the Māori Affairs Committee to ensure that those interests and submissions were not only received but taken seriously.I want to acknowledge our chairman the Hon Tau Henare to whom we look as members of the select committee for win-wins. I want to say yet again that I do need to acknowledge your leadership Tau in ensuring that the passage of this bill came through as expediently as it possibly could without impinging on the rights of the submitters. I am happy with the position of ensuring that the Ngāti Kahungunu ki te Wairoa interest in the lake bed remains with the Wairoa Waikaremoana Māori Trust Board which has a 28 percent interest and 72 percent goes to the Ngāi Tūhoe entities. I particularly want to acknowledge the committee in coming to that conclusion.In terms of the reserve lands it is heartening to see that in March this year the ahu whenua trust ruling was made which again protects the beneficial owners the shareholders in the reserve lands surrounding Lake Waikaremoana. We had several submitters passionately wanting to preserve their rights and interests in those reserve lands. Again this goes to show the constructive way in which the Māori Affairs Committee works and the advice that we get from officials to ensure that we get what we consider is a durable settlement at the end of the day.There is much in this bill to highlight and celebrate. We will leave that for the third reading. This is really my opportunity to acknowledge and thank Ngāi Tūhoe negotiators ably led by Tāmati Kruger; the governors and negotiators of Ngāi Tūhoe; obviously the honourable Minister Chris Finlayson and his officials for opening negotiations and negotiating this settlement bill through the House; and of course my colleagues in the Māori Affairs Committee. I enjoy working with them. Like all members of this House I commend this bill to the House. Kia ora tātou.METIRIA TUREI (Co-Leader—Green): Tēnā koutou e te Whare. The land that is the subject of this settlement bill the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill was confiscated in 1865.The iwi at the time were not in rebellion. They were rightly and justly living as an independent nation as was their right. The confiscation which caused enormous harm at the time was compounded by the courts which later gave land away to others compounding the harms and then later still by Government inducements in the form of threats—“Either sell it to us or we’ll take it.”—which again compounded even more the harms that had been caused.This land like all the land in this country has been subject to an incredibly abusive process by various Governments over many years—some that like today’s Government will claim that good is being done when in fact harms are still being committed. We have to accept that to some extent our process here will never fully right what was wrong and will never fully return to those who are entitled what was wrongly taken from them. That is a hard situation to be in for us making the decision. It is worse of course for those who are subject to it.This bill is an attempt to repair some of that hurt and to restore some of those resources back to the people who actually own them but the damage is done. We can see that damage and that hurt reflected in the Māori Affairs Committee when people come to us with concerns that they have been raising either with Government or with other iwi or through agencies or the courts—still decade after decade after decade. Iwi attempts to work through the Crown’s process for restitution has itself exacerbated the harms of the past. It is expensive. It takes many many years. It is often the same argument that iwi are running time after time with different Ministers with different Governments with different courts and with different judges and they are never properly heard and never properly dealt with.This settlement is part of a much larger and older series of systems and negotiations and at the end of the day concessions that are made by iwi Māori in an attempt to find some way to work effectively together. It is an enormously generous act of iwi Māori that they still engage with us as a Parliament and they still engage with Government as an agency when they know and we know that the harm will not fully be repaired. They know and we know that harm will be created in the process itself. I want to pay enormous respect to those who have been working through these negotiations particularly for this land in these circumstances. The minefield of a Government-driven process is very very hard work.We heard in the select committee very significant concerns from iwi and from hapū that as I have said clearly have a very long history premised in previous Crown-inflicted harm. We will not have time to go into all of the issues in detail because they were significant and there were a number of them but I do want to just acknowledge Ngāti Manawa Ngāti Haka Patuheuheu Ngāti Moewhare Ngāti Whare Ruapani Kahungunu and all of those who came and reiterated yet again for our benefit but to some harm to them the concerns that they have with this process.But also I want to acknowledge Tūhoe for pursuing a settlement for Urewera; for pursuing their best possible attempts for the independence of that land for self-government; for taking on a national park and all of the Pākehā history that is invested in that structure; and for finding a way to work through all of those issues with their own whānau with Pākehā who have this deep commitment to the restoration and conservation of our land and with a Crown-driven process that causes harm. It is an extraordinary act to have engaged with that. Tūhoe deserve the utmost respect as all of those who engage with settlements deserve for all of that hard work.This settlement will fix some wrongs that have been committed in the past and for that we should be very pleased but it has created others. It certainly will not fix all of those that have been created. So let us remember as we go through the process for thisbill that we still owe it to those who have been excluded and who are still bereft of their rightful entitlements to hold on to their concerns and to look for new ways to right them.The Greens have long called for a significant review of this settlement process. It was designed by the Government. It was designed by Pākehā. Although it has evolved a little over the last many years it has never been a process driven determined by Māori. That is its fundamental flaw. No Government has seriously addressed that fundamental flaw. If it was driven by Māori we would have a very different kind of process and rightly so. It should not be the perpetrator who decides how justice is meted out. Thank you.Hon TAU HENARE (National): Te mea tuatahi kei a koutou e aku rangatira e aku tuākana Mātaatua tēnā koutou katoa.[Firstly to you collectively my leaders and elder siblings of Mātaatua salutations to you all.]Theft lies blackmail and then more lies. Those are the ingredients for a ripping Dan Brown or John le Carré novel that you would love to pick up and read. But no it is a historical record of what happened to an indigenous nation some 100-odd years ago. That is the litany of Government theft lies blackmail and more lies. I will keep this reasonably brief and I will leave the esoteric to my other colleagues who can think better than I can. No. 1 is the theft as the story goes. This is the first chapter that you read in the Singapore airport as you pick up the novel. Tūhoe were an independent nation who did not sign up to the Treaty of Waitangi had no rebellious thought—they were not in rebellion against the Crown or anybody else for that matter at that particular time. Then out of the blue the most productive land was confiscated by another nation—the Government more particularly. The confiscation was directed solely at Tūhoe.The next chapter is the lies. The prejudice created by the confiscation was exacerbated by the Compensation Court process which returned much of the confiscated land to other Māori and not those from Tūhoe who had traditionally occupied and cultivated that area of land. So it begins and the story starts to unravel. The blackmail came in 1875 when the Crown induced Tūhoe to sell a large area of land at Waikaremoana by threatening to confiscate their interests if they did not sell. So you can see the story unravelling and it is like a novel. You would think that this could happen only in somebody’s head. Unfortunately it did not.Now we get to the more lies part. After years and years of struggle Tūhoe sought to protect their remaining lands from sale and in 1896 Parliament—this Parliament—enacted the Urewera District Native Reserve Act. This provided for local self-government over a 656000-acre Urewera District Native Reserve and for decisions about the use of the land to be made collectively and according to Māori custom. Tūhoe believed that this system would protect their lands from sale. As we know however the Crown did not implement the self-government provisions of that Act and undermined its protective provisions.So there are four things in that litany of a Government attack of theft lies blackmail and more lies on what was and still is to me an independent nation. The final chapter of this book—of this story—for us will come in the third reading. I will leave my other pearls—maybe not pearls of wisdom but pearls—to that third reading process. But I must say and this is from deep down within me that Tūhoe have a particular mystery about them and that is why I love Tūhoe people. When they talk they miss out a few letters. When they talk of their stories and of the people they are the whole “legend”—and I put that in inverted commas—of Tūhoe resounds around our nation. They are one of the people who make us who we are. Whether we are from the north south east orwest and whether we are black or white Tūhoe has a particular place in New Zealand’s folklore. I will leave the rest for the third reading and thank you very much. Kia ora.Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First): Kia ora. Tēnā koutou katoa. Tūhoe’s case for justice is not in dispute. Tūhoe’s case is about belatedly attempting to correct a grave series of historical wrongs. Tūhoe’s grievance is recognised by New Zealand First and we have never ever thought otherwise. But on 31 May last year we wrote to the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations because we were concerned about the boundaries being encompassed within this bill the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill in an endeavour to settle with Tūhoe. Nothing we are going to say today is any way a questioning of or attack on Tūhoe’s leadership or their long-suffering forbearance over decades. We in New Zealand First accept that respect that salute that and honour them for that.However the issue for us becomes whether this bill is in fact going to do what it claims to do—that is to resolve a historical wrong. We fear on the evidence and on the history that we understand that there are other claimants being swept within the boundaries of this bill who themselves are going to be wronged because of it. In short we are concerned about the eastern boundary of the claim within this legislation. Let us be very clear: New Zealand First is not opposed in any way shape or form to attempting to fix up this grave historical wrong but we do not want one created as well whilst we try to do that.Hon Member: That’s a really good point.Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: It is a very good point. I wrote to Mr Finlayson and he wrote this back: “The substance of Ngāi Tūhoe’s settlement has been well-scrutinised by the Waitangi Tribunal and the High Court as a result of concerns of other iwi and hapū whose areas of interest overlap with that of Ngāi Tūhoe. The Waitangi Tribunal and the High Court have concluded that the proposed Ngāi Tūhoe settlement does not”—and these are the very critical words—“prejudice the interests of any other iwi or hapū.”Well what about Ūpokorehe’s claim? And who here is going to tell me that they have not got a legitimate concern under this bill? The finest Māori politician who has ever been—in fact one of the finest politicians this country has ever seen—was a man called Sir Apirana Ngata. If Sir Apirana Ngata way back in 1929 recognised the iwi I am talking about who here is going to dispute it? Who in this Parliament including the Minister including the High Court including the department and including all these other so-called experts is going to dispute that back in 1929 Sir Apirana Ngata the then Minister—that is the Minister of Native Affairs as it was at the time—issued a seal and ensign recognising that iwi’s status to Ōpōtiki and to the Ōhiwa Harbour connection? Except that in this bill all of a sudden Tūhoe is at the edge and has claims to Ōhiwa Harbour and traditional fishing rights.I want to know from some Māori member who sat on that committee what happened to the claimants about whom I speak—those claimants who somebody no less than the absolutely totally esteemed leader Apirana Ngata recognised way back on 12 December 1929. If you are going to say that these people’s rights are not in any way trammelled or fettered or influenced—Hon Tau Henare: Why didn’t you come to the select committee?Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: Well I cannot come to the Māori Affairs Committee because I am on so many other ones. Unlike that member I actually do some work. Unlike that member I am on other select committees and we cannot be on them all. But long before he got here I was aware of this issue.Hon Tau Henare: Weren’t you Minister of Māori Affairs?Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: I am the Minister Mr Henare who went to Tūhoe and gave them back their land. What is his record?Hon Tau Henare: What did you do?Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: Oh no I am the Minister—Hon Tau Henare: What did you do?Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: See here we go. He wants to shout down—Hon Nanaia Mahuta: My apologies for interrupting the member in mid-sway but I seek leave to table for the benefit of the member because New Zealand First is not represented on the Māori Affairs Committee the departmental report dated 19 March drawing specific attention to page 5—Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is a public record.Hon Nanaia Mahuta: —which details the issues—Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Firstly I disapprove of the member interrupting to table a document. The second thing is that I am not going to put the leave because it is a public document.Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: I want to remind that member out there who was interjecting that unlike his record I went to Tūhoe—and they will remember it—back in 1991 and we handed back that land at their request.Hon Tau Henare: Who tried to stop the inquiry into Waikaremoana?Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: No one else did so let us not have this sort of humbug here. I am not disputing Waikaremoana; I am not disputing anything else but what I am disputing is that on the eastern boundary I have a concern that some people’s rights to a fair hearing will be compromised. If you say this—Hon Tau Henare: Mates.Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: Look you are not a lawyer Mr Henare so why do you not keep quiet for a second.Hon Tau Henare: You’re not a lawyer either.Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: Yes I am a lawyer actually—a very esteemed one. Can I just say this. When you say something like “does not prejudice the interests of any other iwi or hapū.” ask yourself historically can that possibly be true? We know what happens if a settlement like this gets through. If there is a legitimate claimant and they go through the same process it will become so much harder. That is why this is happening here and it is happening up there in the far north. It is happening up there in Tai Tokerau as we speak and there is no way this Minister is going to get a settlement up there for the very same reasons. There is a dispute as to who speaks for what where and when and it is a very very valid dispute. No one is challenging Tūhoe here. I am just saying: “Let us have a settlement”—[Interruption] I beg your pardon?Hon Tau Henare: But.Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: Well at least I am saying “but”. How can you say that Ōhiwa and access to the coast was a Tūhoe right all those years ago? They had access to Tangaroa. They had access to Tangaroa and it is a different principle and one that this Minister does not understand. But that is a totally different principle to ownership and just because some courts find it this way and just because some civil servants find it this way and just because the Waitangi grievance procedure finds it this way it does not make right. We have been around too long to accept that as fundamental. I want to say to Mr Henare one more time: do you think you know more than Sir Apirana Ngata?Hon Tau Henare: What the hell has that got to do with it?Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: Well it has got everything to do with it. If in 1929 the Minister of Native Affairs recognised these people as having legitimate claims why is this member disputing it? Why for example is my esteemed colleague Pita Sharplesgoing to argue against his former great leader? Or does he say that Sir Apirana Ngata was wrong? That is all I am saying. I think it is a valid point to put because if you are going to have a settlement of a grave and serious wrong which these people have suffered under for so long let us for goodness’ sake get it right.CLAUDETTE HAUITI (National): The Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill is a unique settlement. According to some academics it is an “ingenious alchemy” where it is governed by Tūhoe and the Crown. Te Urewera legislation will provide for each whānau and hapū within the valleys of Te Urewera to be recognised as kaitiakitanga and over time with the Department of Conservation to formulate management plans integrating mātauranga Tūhoe me mātauranga Te Papa Atawhai. Te Urewera nature is perhaps the embodiment of God’s wealth. This is a world-first Treaty and one that can be replicated globally and I commend it to the House.LOUISA WALL (Labour—Manurewa): Kia ora. E ngā mana e ngā reo rau rangatira mā tēnā koutou tēnā koutou tēnā tātou katoa. Ngā mihi Tūhoe. Kia ora for your contribution to your settlement bill the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill within the context of a May 2010 decision by the Prime Minister not to include Te Urewera. I actually want to focus on the leadership within Tūhoe to stay focused on one of the most important acknowledgments within your settlement legislation and so I mihi to the leadership of Tūhoe for getting us to this place where you are satisfied with this bill. I have every faith and confidence in your ability to work with your uri and other iwi groups on your border—so your whanaunga.I actually believe that there is some integrity in the settlement process that means that Māori collectively will be able to move forward into the space that you want to take your people. One of the challenges moving forward for us as a House though will be to ensure we monitor the implementation of this legislation with the utmost of good faith because one of the things that we recognise is that the historical relationship between all of our iwi groups and the Crown has been abysmal. It has been shocking. It has been terrible. In fact it was the Crown that perpetrated a lot of the conflict confiscation on our mana whenua and it is only in what happens post - these settlements that will actually make the partnership—that relationship between the Crown and mana whenua—real.So I acknowledge your mana motuhake agreement. Tūhoe and the Crown have a Nā Kōrero Ranatira ā Tūhoe me Te Karaunga relationship agreement. The intention of that agreement is to ensure that Tūhoe and the Crown post-settlement will negotiate about how education is delivered in Tūhoe and how social services are delivered in Tūhoe. It will be founded on Tūhoetanga. It will be driven and delivered by Tūhoe people. I think actually that the most significant part of this settlement agreement other than the return of Te Urewera is the relationship agreements the memorandums of understanding that have been established within the context of this piece of legislation. We are looking back to go forward but I think that it is the forward-looking remembering of our past that will actually create the partnership that the Treaty envisaged and guaranteed for us as a country.I have faith in the process—not only our parliamentary process but our Treaty settlement process with the involvement of all the different organisations including the law and the legal aspects—to us to get to this point of resolution. What these settlements are all about are truth and reconciliation processes. They are really about how we move forward positively as a nation ensuring that our mana whenua and our iwi are recognised in terms of the historical relationship they have had with the Crown. But as I have said before the most important aspect of these settlements is the going forward.What I want to conclude with finally is that Tūhoe for me have always been incredibly staunch. Whenever I have gone to kapa haka they are the fiercest most staunch proponents of kapa haka. And what does that mean to me? It means that they are very loyal very committed to Tūhoetanga. I commend Tūhoe for their projection always of their Tūhoetanga and I thank them. I agree with my colleague Metiria Turei that we have to thank our mana whenua our iwi leadership for enabling us to move on. Yes we also should acknowledge the Māori Affairs Committee and the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations—and in this particular bill I think the Hon Chris Finlayson has done a fantastic job—but for me it is always about the steadfast resolve of our iwi who have got us to this point in time. So I thank you for your generosity and I look forward to the third reading of this bill when I know that this place will be packed. Nō reira thank you to those who have come. Safe travels home. Nō reira tēnā koutou tēnā koutou tēnā tātou katoa.JOANNE HAYES (National): Tēnā koe Mr Deputy Speaker. Ā ka huri au ki ngā whānau whānui o Tūhoe ka nui te mihi atu ki a koutou katoa. Tēnā koutou.[Thank you Mr Deputy Speaker. And so I turn to the extensive families of Tūhoe to acknowledge you all greatly. Greetings.]I am pleased to take this very short call on this omnibus bill the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill. I am pleased and I am going to do this on a three-step method. I attended a conference last year the E Tū Whānau conference and the keynote speaker was none other than Tāmati Kruger. When he stood up he said: “You know when people stand up to speak there are three things that the audience are looking at: you get up you get it out and you sit down.” So I have got up ladies and gentlemen. I am getting it out. I totally support the second reading of this bill.I want to acknowledge that there are not many more words that I can say to support this bill. All the words have been said by my colleagues on the Māori Affairs Committee by our Hon Chris Finlayson who does a fabulous job in the Treaty negotiations work and also by my colleague Tau Henare who leads our committee. I am now going to sit down because I am now going to commend this bill to the House. Kia ora.Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: I call Iain Lees-Galloway. I understand this is not a split call.IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Labour—Palmerston North): This is not a split call. Labour supports the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill and we look forward to its further passage through the Committee stage and third reading.TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West): I too thank the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations for his considerable work and all members—all but one member—who have contributed to this debate. I acknowledge the iwi and I support the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill.A party votewas called for on the questionThat the Te Urewera-Tūhoe Bill be now read a second time.Ayes113New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Māori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; Mana 1; United Future 1.Noes7New Zealand First 7.Bill read a second time.Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement BillSecond ReadingHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations): I moveThat the Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement Bill be now read a second time. The bill gives effect to a deed of settlement signed by the Crown the Tumuaki and Ngāti Hauā in 2013 to settle all remaining historical Treaty claims of Ngāti Hauā. I think I said this in my first reading speech but this was an iwi who came and saw Bill English and me towards the end of 2012 and said they wanted to conclude their settlement negotiations by signing a deed 6 months hence and we said: “Yes let’s go for it.” We did not believe that it was possible but they did it because they are excellent negotiators. They were focused on the task. They had dealt with overlapping claims. It was a very very impressive effort and once again I commend them and their negotiators for their splendid work. The settlement provides financial commercial and cultural redress and acknowledges the losses suffered by Ngāti Hauā arising from serious breaches of the Treaty by the Crown.Once again I want to thank the chair and members of the Māori Affairs Committee for their hard work in considering the bill and exploring the issues raised in submissions at hearings held earlier this year in Karapiro and in Wellington. The committee received four submissions from interested groups and individuals and heard three of them. I am very happy to hear that people took the time to examine to make submissions on and to think about the bill. It was especially pleasing to hear from those who supported it and in particular I want to acknowledge the warmth expressed from a neighbouring iwi. Treaty bills like this one reflect prior agreements between claimant groups and the Crown. It is not always possible for the committee to make the changes suggested by submitters but I want to assure submitters that the committee investigated the changes to the bill that they suggested.In 2008 the Crown and Waikato-Tainui signed a deed of settlement in relation to the great Waikato River. This settlement will geographically extend the co-management instruments afforded to Waikato-Tainui to cover the Ngāti Hauā area of interest and that means that Ngāti Hauā will play an important role in the co-management of the Waikato River within their area of interest through Waikato-Tainui. The committee has incorporated a small number of changes to the bill. These changes are technical in nature and they do help to clarify aspects of the redress. I look forward to the third reading and seeing this wonderful iwi move into a positive future. I commend the bill to the House.Hon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour—Hauraki-Waikato): It gives me great pleasure to be able to support the second reading of the Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement Bill. Although it is not in my technical electorate boundary it is within my childhood rohe. I was very pleased to be able to attend the signing of this particular settlement at Rukumoana. There was a strong air of anticipation that some great things can emerge from a very discreet and small settlement.The Ngāti Hauā settlement exists outside of the Waikato raupatu boundary. Some of the key pillars for the settlement are around the Tumuakitanga and its relationship to the Kīngitanga and more important the way in which Ngāti Hauā marae have organised themselves. Their governance has been propelled by the expectations of having a settlement that can help them to develop their marae and their resources and look forward to see how they can optimise the value of other shareholding interests that they have within the Ngāti Hauā area.Ngāti Hauā is rich in history rich in resource of its people and marae and rich in so far as some of the business and farming activities that they are involved in. There aretwo components through the submission process that the Māori Affairs Committee turned its eye to. One was in relation to an objection—the only objection to the settlement—and we have mentioned that in the report with relation to the supporting of the Tumuakitanga. We were very satisfied that nothing in this bill provides for the transfer of a payment to an individual. In fact on ratification tribal members themselves were informed that a component of this particular redress allowed for the support for the Tumuaki and an institution to be able to achieve that. This is a really important part of the bill albeit a small commentary from the select committee because it would be right for tribal members to have a strong sense of objection if they felt that in any way a particular individual benefited specifically from a Treaty settlement. I really want to assure members of the House that we put our minds to that objection.The second one was in relation to the transfer I guess of similar instruments that relate to those Waikato River iwi. If members have an appreciation for the Ngāti Hauā region some of the catchments feeding the Waikato River are inextricably linked to the Ngāti Hauā area. What is happening now as a result of the river settlement is that catchment plans have been developed in conjunction with the regional council and Waikato-Tainui iwi representatives to be able to provide for the more efficient better management and care and protection of tributaries through catchment plans thereby influencing the positive impact on the Waikato River.But here is a particularly unique example in Ngāti Hauā. This is how this settlement I think will build on greater stewardship and protection for our waterways. They have gone into a partnership with the regional council to be able to do something like the Clean Streams Project such as put up fences plant along waterways and stop cattle from going into streams that have a high intrinsic value for Ngāti Hauā themselves but also are important in terms of the network of streams within the Hauā area. I can see that my colleague Tim Macindoe is very familiar with what I am saying.The point of this is that giving effect to the instruments contained in the Waikato River settlement and making clear that the Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement Bill allows the instruments to be extended to their rohe creates dare I say it—excuse the pun—a streamlined effect for efficient management of waterways. That is a good thing. I know that members of Ngāti Hauā are very excited about their settlement. I know that they are very appreciative of the Government pursuing this with some vigour because in relation I guess to Waikato they understand that they would be seen as a very small component part of Waikato. So they have an immense amount of gratitude to the Government for getting their settlement on the table and through the House with such speed and I feel compelled to convey that to the Government on their behalf.There are other aspects of the bill but can I say that of all the settlement bills that we have heard at the end of last year and this year this was probably the most efficiently managed bill to the extent that all but one submission supported it. The ratification process was extensive. It was very clear how the components of the redress would be utilised. It has been very encouraging to see the growing attendance of the Ngāti Hauā people at their monthly meetings and the way in which they have organised themselves. I think that Ngāti Hauā have become a model for Waikato to that extent. You can go to a meeting within Hauā and they will have near on for the size of the hapū 60 to 80 people turning up at Rukumoana for their monthly meetings. I think that is a great hallmark of real development of people in their area.I do not have too much more to say but can I commend the bill once again to members. Can I say although it may be ruled inappropriate that it does concern me that members who are not represented on the Māori Affairs Committee see fit to attack Treaty settlement legislation and I would urge members who feel that they need to beon particular Treaty settlement bills to actually have members on that select committee albeit for each one. Thank you. Kia ora.Hon Dr PITA SHARPLES (Minister of Māori Affairs): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. Ā anō tēnā koutou kua tae mai nei ki tēnei hui ō tātou me te kaupapa e takoto nei i mua i a tātou i te rā nei. Tēnā koutou whakapiri mai.[And so salutations to you collectively who have arrived here at this gathering of ours and to the matter that reclines here before us today. Greetings to you collectively; draw closer.]I stand to tautoko the second reading of the Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement Bill and to note that the clear and pragmatic approach that Ngāti Hauā has brought to the settlement of their claims is a triumph and the product of their absolute belief and commitment. I endorse what Nanaia has said about the iwi and their commitment to their affairs. I quote Ngāti Hauā co-lead negotiator Lance Rāpana who said: “The key to arriving at this sort of outcome is … the ability of your iwi to pull together 100 per cent together and move as one.” So tēnā koe Lance. It was a result of hard work unity and the pursuit of justice by generations of Ngāti Hauā that has allowed us to reach this point today. Although the recent Treaty settlement negotiations that culminated in the bill before us were perhaps some of the fastest on record for Ngāti Hauā this path was instigated many years ago by their rangatira Wīremu Tamihana. Wīremu Tamihana anointed the first Māori King giving rise to the position of Tumuaki a role of local national political and spiritual significance that endures to this present day. The family is always involved in the appointment of Kīngi to Kuini Māori. I would like to acknowledge the role of the tumuaki whose leadership has contributed to the timely success of this settlement.In this settlement the Crown apologises for breaches of Treaty rights from the 1860s onwards. In doing so it has acknowledged the means employed by the Crown to strip Ngāti Hauā of their fertile lands their rivers and their maunga. Thriving communities with a strong economic base were totally destroyed. During the invasion of Waikato in 1863 and 1864 many Ngāti Hauā were killed or wounded. In 1865 the Crown confiscated a large area of Waikato land. The raupatu caused destitution within the Ngāti Hauā rohe and left them virtually landless.Until his death in 1866 Wīremu Tamihana sought the return of Ngāti Hauā lands—a course subsequently pursued by his son Tupu Taingakawa. Wīremu Tamihana submitted petitions to the Crown and his pursuit of justice and peace became a model for many generations of Ngāti Hauā who continued to be confronted by prejudiced Crown systems. By the 1880s private parties had acquired a large quantity of Ngāti Hauā land. The alienation was exacerbated through public works for roading railways schools and hydro electric purposes. This included a Ngāti Hauā longstanding grievance relating to the Crown’s public works taking of land at Waharoa. In World War II the land was taken for an aerodrome after which there was a complete failure to return that land. Slowly surely and comprehensively the landscapes and waterways within Ngāti Hauā rohe were forcibly taken out of their hands. The loss of land undermined their social and traditional structures removing the ability to exercise customary rights and responsibilities.Despite the long history of seeking a meaningful relationship with the Crown and despite Ngāti Hauā’s insistence for peace and justice Ngāti Hauā has endured great prejudice at the hands of the Crown. So this settlement acknowledges the wrongdoings of the Crown in this regard. In doing so this settlement heralds a new chapter in the relationship between Ngāti Hauā and the Crown based on respect for the mana and rangatiratanga of Ngāti Hauā and its leaders. Tēnā koutou. Ngāti Hauā is already wellregarded within its community and around the motu and this bill will legislate in law the importance of their relationship to their whenua.The settlement includes eight sites to be vested in Ngāti Hauā totalling 706 hectares. This includes Maungakawa vested in Ngāti Hauā as a scenic reserve with public access maintained. Ngāti Hauā will also be involved in the co-management arrangements for the Waikato River as has been mentioned within their area of interest through Waikato-Tainui and if the Waharoa aerodrome land is no longer required for the aerodrome and ancillary aviation purposes and reverts to the Crown then it too can be vested in Ngāti Hauā. This and other redress including the settlement package actually in no way compensates for the huge loss of land experienced by Ngāti Hauā at the hands of the Crown. However I am really encouraged by the humility of Ngāti Hauā their graciousness their hard work their unity and their pursuit of peace and justice koutou as an iwi. It is inspiring not just to iwi in Waikato and around the country but to all New Zealanders. Joy tears and applause greeted this settlement when it was signed in July last year. Today I stand in support of the second reading of this bill with the same acclamation and commendation.Nā reira tēnā koutou katoa tēnā tatou. Kia ora.MEKA WHAITIRI (Labour—Ikaroa-Rāwhiti): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker ā tēnā tātou katoa ngā mema o te Whare nei. E te iwi a Ngāti Hauā kua tae mai tēnei te mihi ki a koutou nau mai haere mai ki tō Whare i tēnei wā. Nō reira e ngā mana e ngā reo tēnā koutou tēnā koutou tēnā tātou katoa.[Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker and greetings to us all the members of this House. To the people of Ngāti Hauā who have arrived I acknowledge you collectively; welcome welcome to your House at this point in time. And so to the authorities and voices I therefore acknowledge commend and salute you collectively and us all.]I join with previous speakers in honouring the second reading of the Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement Bill and particularly with members on the Māori Affairs Committee. We ensured that the submissions were well examined and that constructive recommendations have been brought to the House. The purpose of the Ngāti Hauā bill is to give effect to the deed of settlement signed on 18 July 2013 in which the Crown and Ngāti Hauā agreed to the final settlement of the non-raupatu historical Treaty of Waitangi claims of Ngāti Hauā.I join with the member from this side the Hon Nanaia Mahuta in acknowledging the unique settlement of Ngāti Hauā the unique history of Ngāti Hauā the breaches that occurred to the people of Ngāti Hauā and their commitment and resilience to getting and participating in a reconciliation process that has brought this bill to the House. I do acknowledge and commend Ngāti Hauā who are in the gallery and those who are at home. Of course the third reading is where the rubber hits the road when the bill becomes an Act but I do want to acknowledge those who have turned up to support this second reading.Like I do with all Treaty bills I try to find the unique part in each settlement. My colleague Nanaia has already alluded to it and I briefly want to touch on it and that is the commitment of Ngāti Hauā to theTumuaki. I particularly want to acknowledge Ānaru Thompson theTumuakiof Ngāti Hauā and his lovely wife Hine Love Thompson. In acknowledging them I recall my first introduction to Ānaru many many many years ago through the late Hon Parekura Horomia in our many visits to tūrangawaewae. What a lovely manĀnaru is. I want to acknowledge him in referencing Parekura’s passing which accorded many of us who worked alongside Parekura to understand the intricacies of iwi hapū and whānau in terms of our people. I was privileged enough to meetĀnaru. In Parekura’s way he tried to tell me that his role was so significant because of the importance of his support of the Kīngitanga. I learnt in mytime alongside Parekura of the importance that the roleĀnaru plays in terms of the tautoko of the Kīngitanga movement.I do want to acknowledge that and I do want to acknowledge that through this settlement a contribution to the institute of the Tumuaki has been negotiated. I think of a lot of kaumātua around our motu who honour protect and manaaki kaupapa Māori within our whānau and within our hapū. I always think about the kaumātua who do a lot of travelling on behalf of our people to support and uphold the mana of whānau hapū and iwi. So it is fitting that you have a component in your settlement package that acknowledges not only the role thatĀnaru is playing currently but the role the Tumuaki ofNgāti Hauā has playedmai rā nō and hopefully continues to play as we go forward. It is really to acknowledge and celebrate the second reading ofNgāti Hauā’s settlement bill and acknowledge the significant role the Tumuaki plays not just for the Kīngitanga and not just for Waikato-Tanui but for all the motu. I cannot labour enough around the importance in acknowledging it in my small contribution on this significant bill for Ngāti Hauā.I want to again support all members in this House in commending this bill for its second reading and look forward to it in the Committee stage. I join too in looking forward to the third reading when we will have a gallery full of Ngāti Hauā to celebrate in fitting style this significant milestone in your history and to also acknowledge the opportunities of the doors unlocking for the future of Ngāti Hauā particularly in relation to our Ngāti Hauā rangatahi and the opportunities that a settlement like this will bring to the iwi of Ngāti Hauā as we go forward and also for the wider interests of the communities throughout Aotearoa.I say thank you to the negotiators of Ngāti Hauā and the people of Ngāti Hauā for your part in getting us to this point. As I always do I acknowledge the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations the Hon Chris Finlayson. He could not do what he does without the support of his officials so I want to acknowledge the officials at the Office of Treaty Settlements and other officials who have participated in this significant bill. Of course I cannot go without acknowledging my colleagues on the Māori Affairs Committee. As previous speakers have said we had several hearings at Lake Karapiro and every time I go back there I always have visions of the national waka ama competition and being hosted by the lovely people of Ngāti Hauā up there. Yes I see you Daniel up there and you were calling races. Of course I also acknowledge the work and the stewardship of our committee chair the Hon Tau Henare.Without further ado I support wholeheartedly the second reading of this significant bill on behalf of Ngāti Hauā and commend it to the House. Kia ora tātou.CATHERINE DELAHUNTY (Green): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. Tēnā koe e te Whare Pāremata tēnā koutou Ngāti Hauā. He mihi nui ki ngā mana me ngā rangatiratanga.[Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker.Salutations to you the House and to you collectively Ngāti Hauā. A huge acknowledgment to the powers and authorities.]I am very privileged to speak to the second reading of the Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement Bill. It is my privilege to be a resident in the Hauraki and to therefore be in the neighbourhood of Ngāti Hauā and to acknowledge at the end of the rohe of Hauraki Ngāti Hauā’s strong interest in and relationship and whakapapa connections to Te Aroha the maunga ātaahua in our area the beautiful mountain that we are working to restore from pollution.I am going to take a brief call because in the third reading I would like to expand on some of these issues. I think the most critical issue is the need to bring the Pākehā community into an understanding of what Ngāti Hauā and other tangata whenua groups have been through so that we can actually say that things have been settled. I think thata number of Pākehā might know the name Wīremu Tamihana Tarapīpipi and the word “kingmaker” but have no real concept of the extraordinary leadership of this tupuna the history of his descendants and everything that he and his people went through during the Land Wars of the 1860s. So it is really important to acknowledge his descendants here today and back in the rohe who have carried on since those times to assert their mana and rangatiratanga despite the incredible process of violence and colonisation that took place in their rohe.Of course the Waikato being one of the most fertile and beautiful parts of Aotearoa it was in the sights of General Cameron and in the sights of the colonial settlers and they were determined to wrest that land from its rightful owners. Much of that land is now in private hands and thus there is a conundrum when we talk about full and fair restitution and justice for Ngāti Hauā and other Waikato people.The classic issues are involved in the settlement but first I will acknowledge the effectiveness of this particular negotiation at this time. Obviously Ngāti Hauā had initiated an excellent negotiation with the Crown and within 6 months had reached an agreement that represented the best that could be negotiated. I think we should acknowledge and celebrate that while also stating the Greens’ refusal to accept that settlements are full and final. These deals can never be the end of negotiation. The reason I say that is that we know that issues like those Patricia Grace has just experienced with the Public Works Act even though it ended in victory and discussions around post - Treaty settlement monitoring are not entrenched in the settlements. They rely on the goodwill of the Government of the day and that is insufficient.We cannot rely just on the goodwill of the Government of the day in post - Treaty settlement monitoring. That is not sufficient. We actually need if we are going to make a proper settlement to recognise the absolute legal obligation on the Crown under the articles of te Tiriti to continue dialogue and negotiation for ever so that we can attempt to live in the right relationship out of the mess that colonisation created in Aotearoa.So the goodwill and willingness of each Government is not sufficient. We cannot rely on the fashion to support te Tiriti depending on who is in power. We need to entrench those values and those articles of te Tiriti into these processes if they are going to be meaningful. I would like to acknowledge my colleague Metiria Turei who said of the previous bill that although the process is designed by the perpetrator it is pretty difficult to see that the redress is going to be appropriate in all senses no matter how much good work has been done. It is an imbalance of justice.I want to talk about war because the Waikato War is not written on the walls of this building. I am looking forward to the day when we acknowledge the wars in our own country as well as the wars offshore. I think we have had a recurrence now of acknowledging Ōrākau Rangiriri and Pukehinahina for example but they are not on the walls of Parliament. They are not expressed as a true part of our history and that does not do them justice. They are the most painful wars we have been involved with because they strike at the heart of our identity as a nation and they strike at the heart of some of the myths of our nation about how we live together. When they are on these walls I am going to have faith that we have truly taken on te Tiriti.The other issue in relation to Ngāti Hauā is that I read the aerodrome provisions with some interest. The Public Works Act in the 1940s and 1950s was used to divest these people of their whenua. At the moment the settlement talks about the future but what it gives them in concrete terms is the right to sit on the parking committee. I do not think that is what justice looks like. To say that one day they might get the aerodrome back if people no longer use it—well that is not really justice either. One day when thosepeople who like flying their planes around decide they might like to give the land back—I am not sure that that is justice.I am interested in truth and reconciliation being meaningful and it is not truth and reconciliation when one of the parties i.e. the Waikato Pākehā community has no idea not only of the content of the settlement—most of them—but also of what happened in Ngāti Hauā what was done and what conditions people have to survive with. Even the good things that are in the settlement do not really come to grips with that either.Really interestingly the constitutional review process that the Government and the Māori Party led talked about the need for these issues. The report talks about the need for te Tiriti education and civics education as being critical if we are going to create a genuine reconciliation to history and therefore a real settlement of the Treaty process in Aotearoa. But the constitutional review recommendations have not been followed through as far as we can tell in any meaningful way. There was a discussion in Parliament yesterday on this very matter and it was not at all clear who was going to take responsibility for making sure that genuine robust te Tiriti education based on what happened at Waitangi on 6 February 1840 in the Te Reo Treaty signed by the chiefs of the rangatira will actually have any place in the education system. Words are one thing but we are way overdue.If we are talking about the Ngāti Hauā settlement we need the people of Waikato the Pākehā community tauiwi katoa to really understand what has taken place what has been done what is being returned what is not being returned what is the finished business what is the unfinished business and how they as citizens under te Tiriti who are protected by article 1 in terms of kāwanatanga have a responsibility to work in a right relationship under article 2 rangatiratanga with the tangata whenua the mana whenua of Ngāti Hauā or anyone else in the Waikato.We talk about co-management co-governance and all these models but we have not got a basic understanding in the Pākehā population—and I know this because I have taught this subject for 20 years. The Pākehā population has no basic understanding of what the articles of the Treaty mean in terms of their responsibilities or that the settlement process is actually their process.I am one of the few very privileged Pākehā who speak in the House about this. I do that because Te Tiriti o Waitangi is the most important issue for Pākehā in Aotearoa tauiwi katoa. Tangata whenua have never given away their rangatiratanga and te Tiriti does not give it to them. It merely affirms the existing reality that has been damaged and that we are now attempting to heal. We as Pākehā my people need to understand—and nowhere is this more significant than in the Waikato—what happened and how we have a role in supporting the restitution and justice for Ngāti Hauā.I am looking forward to the day that this constitutional conversation actually leads to proper te Tiriti education so that every citizen can stand up in the Waikato and say: “What happened with General Cameron and what happened in the burning of the women inside the church—what does that mean for me and how can I understand that?”. Not in a way of feeling paralysed with guilt or shame but in a way to feel empowered by history to live in the right relationship and support a settlement such as this one and to make the settlements in the future ongoing robust meaningful and justice based. Kia ora tātou katoa.Hon JOHN BANKS (Leader—ACT): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. I have not taken a call on Treaty settlement matters in this House in the last 10 Parliaments but I thought I should today. I want to acknowledge all the Māori members of this House and the great contribution that they make in the best interests of the multicultural society that we are today. I also want to pay tribute to my friends Pita Sharples and TarianaTuria in the Māori Party for being such great workmates around this place in recent years.I rise to take this call today to update the record on Māori claims settlements in this House in the last 25 years. Firstly I want to give credit to Sir Douglas Graham and his negotiation team of the early 1990s and the great work that that fine New Zealander contributed to in this House in Māori claims settlements some of them very substantial very complex quite difficult and surrounded by much controversy. So I give praise and I give credit to Sir Douglas Graham and his team of officials in the early 1990s as I do to the Bolger Government of the time where I sat on the front bench and served for two terms.I want to now come to the present. This Government under the leadership of John Key has grasped this nettle and what I would call the mopping-up exercise of 25 years of Māori claims settlements. It is mopping up because many of the claims are small. They are not small in terms of the significance because I understand the significance of what happened in the Waikato in the 19th century. I understand it well. I know the area from where these good people have come this morning—they have migrated from the Waikato to Parliament Buildings—and which they represent. I know the pain and hardship caused to those people by the injustice done to them—from in particular around 1860 to 1865.I want to give praise to Chris Finlayson QC for the work he has done in the finest traditions of setting aside party differences and getting these Māori historical land claim grievance settlements once and for all settled on behalf of the people of this country.I know where these people come from. I have fond memories of flying gliders well above this place to great heights many many years ago. This is a small iwi significant in their historical value to this country and its future a great people and dignified citizens who have worked tirelessly to bring this settlement together today with the Minister Chris Finlayson QC and his officials. So I want to join this House in congratulating them in saying to them that we remember the past and we must never forget it and in wishing them every success for the future.JOANNE HAYES (National): Kia ora Mr Assistant Speaker. Mihi atu ki ngā whānau o Ngāti Hauā. Tēnā koutou.[Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker. I acknowledge the families of Ngāti Hauā. Greetings to you collectively.]I stand to support the second reading of the Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement Bill. I must say reading all the information and listening to the submissions I am very impressed with the process that Ngāti Hauā has gone through. The documented evidence of the ratification process and the submissions that came through when we were up in Hamilton talking with you and listening to you was just absolutely amazing. I was very impressed.This bill is a Crown offer of statutory acknowledgments over the following areas: Waiōrongomai part of the Kaimai Mamaku Conservation Park; Ngatamahinerua part of the Kaimai Mamaku Conservation Park and Maurihoro Scenic Reserve; Te Wairere the Wairere Falls Scenic Reserve part of the Gordon Park Scenic Reserve and part of the Kaimai Mamaku Conservation Park; Te Weraiti part of the Kaimai Mamaku Conservation Park; Whewells Bush Scientific Reserve; Te Oko Horoi a marginal strip alongside the Waikato River; and the Waikato River and tributaries within the Ngāti Hauā area of interest. This is just absolutely going to be a changer for Ngāti Hauā and I congratulate you. I am not going to go on any more today because I am going to save that for the third reading. So without any further ado I commend and support this bill to the House.CLAUDETTE HAUITI (National): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. The Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement Bill sponsored by the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations the Hon Christopher Finlayson has been set down for its second reading. The purpose of this bill is to give effect to the deed of settlement signed by the Crown and Ngāti Hauā.I would just like to touch on some of the aspects that were raised during the select committee process. The Māori Affairs Committee examined the bill and recommended that it be passed with the following amendments. The committee recommended amending the bill so that right of first refusal land could cease to be subject to a right of first refusal where the governance entity waived or varied their rights in relation to that land. This would allow for the land in question to be transferred in accordance with the waiver or variation. We also amended the bill to enable notices to be sent by electronic means because we are very modern these days.I would also like to reiterate what colleagues around the House have been saying earlier and throughout the Treaty claims settlement readings. This John Key - led National Government is making great progress on completing final endurable settlements of Treaty of Waitangi claims. The settlements recognise and right the wrongs of the past and strengthen the partnership between the Crown and Māori. These settlements are about rangatiratanga. They are about mana motuhake for each individual iwi and hapū to define their motuhake according to their iwitanga. These settlements are also about kotahitanga the building of our nation collectively as two partners in the Treaty of Waitangi. I commend this bill to the House.LOUISA WALL (Labour—Manurewa): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. E ngā mana e ngā reo rau rangatira mā ngā whānau o Ngāti Hauā tēnā koutou tēnā koutou tēnā tātou katoa. I too have been looking through quite a bit of history and documentation around Ngāti Hauā and how we have come to be where we are today. What struck me was that in 1865 Wīremu Tamihana signed Te Maungarongo which was the covenant of peace. I think what I have felt today is that covenant of peace that is part of your entire settlement process. So I want to acknowledge that. I want to acknowledge that tikanga. I want to acknowledge that tupuna and the influence that he has and continues to have over how Ngāti Hauā conduct their business. I think within the context of Treaty settlements that is an incredibly empowering Ngāti Hauā trait that should be recognised because I think it is the manner in which we conduct ourselves that defines who we are as a people and also provides the context and the platform for how we then move into the future. So I congratulate Ngāti Hauā on the second reading of the Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement Bill.I congratulate our Māori Affairs Committee and also this Parliament for prioritising these Treaty settlements. The reality is there are 25 more sitting days I think before the House rises on 31 July and then we enter what will be an interesting election phase. But what this Parliament has done is prioritise our Treaty settlements. So we are hopeful that you will have your third reading before this session of Parliament concludes. I want to pay tribute to all the work that you have done.I am particularly interested in the joint committee that will be established with the Matamata-Piako District Council. It has a specific kaupapa which is about the management of the aerodrome at Waharoa. But what I am hoping that that opportunity provides is a more sophisticated conversation about Ngāti Hauā’s role within the operation of the council. This is an opportunity for the council and Ngāti Hauā to work constructively together within a partnership framework. I think that as we move into the future the conversation about mana whenua representation on our local councils is of this time. I think it is opportunities such as this that will provide opportunities in the future that continue to embed Ngāti Hauā’s identity and their status and alsoopportunities to take all of our Māori values and beliefs into how we prepare and plan for the future of our rohe. It is something that we on this side of the House are concerned about.It is about constitutional change. It is about constitutional recognition. A lot of the Treaty settlements have statutory recognitions. This is one such recognition because what it does is embed your status within your rohe and within the context of a governance aspect of how our country will be governed going into the future. So I will look with interest.I think this is another one of those areas where the implementation of legislation and this new entity that the Office of Treaty Settlements has established will provide more of an opportunity for Ngāti Hauā and for other iwi around the country to have more of a formal say. It is based on our status. So I am excited about that aspect.I am not going to speak for much longer. I regret that I had to move from the Māori Affairs Committee. I do want to acknowledge our chair the Hon Tau Henare and all other members of our Māori Affairs Committee because we do work hard. In fact I think if we looked at the number of bills that have been through the Māori Affairs Committee in this term we would see that that committee has been the most productive select committee. Therein the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations has been the most productive Minister. I think what you see is normal practice across this Parliament and that is that we have consensus around Treaty settlements. For us it is about moving forward positively and productively and trying to realise the partnership that was envisaged when some of us signed the Treaty. It was about not losing who we are not losing our responsibilities as Māori but how we can now work constructively in terms of our country Aotearoa New Zealand.So I wish you safe travels home but more important I look forward as you do to the third reading of your settlement legislation in this celebration and the opportunity to recognise all the leadership all your tūpuna both past and present who have brought us to this point in time. Nō reira tēnā koutou tēnā koutou tēnā tātou katoa.Hon TAU HENARE (National): Kia ora Mr Assistant Speaker mauri ora ki a koe. Ngāti Hauā tēnā koutou katoa. Tēnā koutou i a koutou i haere mai nei i tēnei rā. Nō reira piki mai kake mai ki tēnei wahi tautohetohe. Nō reira tēnā koutou katoa.[Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker and good health to you. Greetings to you all Ngāti Hauā who came here today. Welcome aboard this place of debate.]I will be very brief. I want to be able to say this in a manner that does not offend anybody. It is not my intention to offend anybody. I have prided myself on moving through my life without offending anybody. Whether they take offence is their worry. That is their problem.A couple of speeches in this House have talked about truth and reconciliation. It is not about that. This is about justice. This is about righting a wrong. Truth and reconciliation will come later on. If we imagine a 100-metre sprint—or for those who are older than me Pita the 100-yard sprint—where we are is about say 20 metres into the race. Truth and reconciliation will come once that move to justice is complete. I just want to put that out there. It is not that I am dissing those who believe that this is a truth and reconciliation process but I think that we are not even there yet. We are still in the mode of seeing whether we can sort out some justice for a wrong. That is the background.Ngāti Hauā like everybody else deserve at least a modicum of justice from where they were. They deserve their place in history. They deserve to be able to move from where they are to where they want to be on their own without being told what to do told how to do it and told when to do it. That is about tino rangatiratanga. That is aboutmana motuhake. It is about people figuring out for themselves where they want to go with the sort of package that has been agreed to between the Crown and themselves.Like my colleague Joanne Hayes I will leave the pearls of wisdom to my third reading speech if and when they come. Nō reira kāti mō tēnei rā. Anei anō te mihi nui ki a koutou katoa. Tēnā koutou katoa.[Therefore enough for today. Here again is my huge acknowledgment to you all and congratulations.]SUE MORONEY (Labour): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. Tēnā koutou e te iwi tōku iwi a Ngāti Hauā kua tae mai. Ka nui te mihi ki a koutou ki a tātou katoa.[Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker. Greetings to the tribe my tribe Ngāti Hauā who have arrived here. I acknowledge you and us all greatly.]It is a great honour to take a short call on this bill the Ngāti Hauā Claims Settlement Bill because this bill is a little reflective of some of my own whakapapa. Being born and raised in the Walton and Matamata areas it is very appropriate to be able to speak in favour of this settlement bill. I want to pay my respects to the iwi for their tenacity. Certainly in my upbringing the name of Wīremu Tamihana was one that we talked about a lot. We talked about him a lot in our education system actually—not nearly enough but certainly Wīremu Tamihana and the folklore and the culture and discussion about the area that I was brought up in were very very prominent and so they should have been.I want to particularly reflect on and support the comments made by the Hon Nanaia Mahuta Meka Whaitiri and Louisa Wall when they spoke on this bill. I particularly want to back up their support of the idea of Ngāti Hauā having a relationship with the Matamata-Piako District Council. I do see part of this settlement as a real opportunity going forward. I hope that that is an opportunity that the council will make the most of because I can see a real opportunity for not just management and decisions around the Waharoa aerodrome but many other things that will benefit our part of the country as well.I am really pleased to see the very familiar names of scenic reserves in our part of the country that are going to be under the guardianship—the very good guardianship—of Ngāti Hauā. I have complete and utter faith that that means that the environmental aspects of those very important pieces of land will be absolutely guaranteed and that makes me feel very proud.I am interested in thinking about—and I hope to ponder on this more before the third reading of this bill comes along—the matters that were taking place in Waharoa in the 1950s when land was taken by the State for infrastructure development. That was done against the wishes of the collective land ownership at the time. My family had some involvement with that and I had no idea about it but I will undertake to try to find out whether they were part of that collective movement or not. My grandparents Eleanor and Charlie Casey “owned” the land at the beginning of the area that was taken under the Public Works Act for the railway going to the Kaimai Tunnel.It is a little bit of a departure but I have got to say that every time I drive over the Kaimai Range and get stuck behind three trucks that are trying to overtake each other while going up that road on the Kaimais I really sit there and curse and wonder why men lost their lives putting the Kaimai Tunnel through. We send so much going over that road cargo-wise and I would like to see much more of it go through the actual railway tunnel but I depart from what I really wanted to say.People might be familiar with that part of the country. If you are driving along on State Highway 27 there is an overpass that goes over the railway line going through the Kaimai Tunnel. The land sitting beneath that was the land that my grandparents farmed. It is such an important part of our family’s history and our whakapapa that my motherhas made sure that my children—the great-grandchildren of Eleanor and Charlie Casey—have gone there. Even though that land has nothing to do necessarily with our family these days my children have been taken for a walk by their grandparents around that land and told the story about my mother’s upbringing there—and about the walnut tree; there is a very famous walnut tree on that piece of land—and about her upbringing in Waharoa. The story is not always a pleasant story because there were frictions and there were conflicts and there were misunderstandings and there were laws that got in the way of good relationships.So I am not going to say much more on the second reading of the bill except to congratulate the iwi on their good grace—their good grace—in finding a way forward with the Crown and the State and to wish them all the best for the future. I look forward to the third reading of this bill.Bill read a second time.Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement BillSecond ReadingHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. I moveThat the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill be now read a second time. Can I begin by acknowledging the gracious and supportive and helpful comments made by my Labour opponents this morning. I particularly acknowledge Louisa Wall and Meka Whaitiri. They were gracious and constructive and that can be contrasted with the ignorant and gross contribution of Mr Peters earlier today comments that will resonate in Ruatāhuna and Ruātoki and places like that—most unfortunate indeed.This bill will enable the settlement of all the remaining historical Treaty claims of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura. Earlier this year the bill was considered by the Māori Affairs Committee. I have said on a number of occasions and this morning I repeat it again that I do appreciate the work that committee did in considering the bill and in considering the issues raised in the submissions. I congratulate the chair and the members on their hard and efficient work. The committee considered 12 submissions from interested groups and individuals. It heard nine submissions and held hearings in Karapiro and Wellington. I am very grateful to those who took the time to make submissions on the bill. They were very positive and very helpful.Every settlement as a previous speaker said is unique in some way. Obviously with the Ngāi Tūhoe legislation the unique feature is the issue of the Ureweras. Here the unique feature is that magnificent mountain in the Waikato Maungatautari. The settlement with Ngāti Koroki Kahukura—and therefore this bill—contains innovative redress relating to Maungatautari. It is at the heart of the rohe of this iwi. It is at the heart of their claim but what they have done is agree to redress over the maunga that accommodates the interests of others as well.I recall the period leading up to the signing of the deed of settlement when there were a number of meetings that I had with various community groups to try to drill down and work out a solution that was acceptable for everyone. The net result of all that work is that the maunga will be vested in the local community as a whole: Te Hapori o Maungatautari. So the bill contains some complex and innovative drafting to provide for vesting an area in a community rather than in a legal person. I want to acknowledge the generosity of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura and emphasise that I remain committed to working with them to ensure that the remaining issues concerning the legal status of the pest-proof fence are effectively resolved and I think they will be.The Waikato-Tainui Raupatu Claims (Waikato River) Settlement Act 2010 and the Ngati Tuwharetoa Raukawa and Te Arawa River Iwi Waikato River Act 2010 provide very important mechanisms for the care and well-being of the Waikato River. The bill before this House is consistent with other Treaty bills in the Waikato in that it provides for the existing manawhakahaere arrangement north of Karapiro to be extended south to the Lake Arapuni sub-catchment and I am very happy that the settlement facilitates those changes.The committee carefully examined the bill. It has incorporated a number of small changes. The changes are technical in nature and they do helpfully clarify aspects of the redress. I very much look forward to the third reading and seeing Ngāti Koroki Kahukura move confidently into the future. As I said in the first debate and I say again now I hope the fact that I am relatively succinct and to the point in the second reading speeches is not a cause of offence to the iwi. What we are trying to do this morning in extended sitting hours is progress three bills through their second reading. The full speeches hopefully in the presence of many members of the iwi will occur at the third reading. I commend the bill to the House.Hon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour—Hauraki-Waikato): Labour supports the passage of the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill and I want to comment on three specific aspects that were raised in submissions. I want to thank the people of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura for hosting the Māori Affairs Committee at Karapiro where we heard a number of supportive submissions. I also want to I guess convey with concern subsequent emails that were sent to select committee members in relation to the consideration of the bill. I know for a fact that that particular submitter is well aware of the political process and although he may not be satisfied perhaps my contribution in this second reading may explain how some of those matters were considered.The issue of the co-management of the Waikato River and the point that was raised in the submission by Koroki Kahukura was that it was an expectation that they would continue to assert their role in the kaitiakitanga of the Waikato River because they live right next to it. There was no dispute over that in relation to the Waikato River settlement in relation to Raukawa in so far as the interests running from Karapiro to Arapuni. The issue that was raised with the select committee was that in order to carry out legitimate co-management responsibilities as an aligned iwi interest there was a cost to it. We did pursue at select committee level whether there was an opportunity for some co-management cost to be ascribed to the rights and interests that are conveyed in the legislation. We received advice from officials that this was not possible and that this was to be considered within the context of the Waikato River settlement.Again this is problematic for Koroki Kahukura because they have to negotiate within the already set parameters from the ascribing of co-management funds through the Waikato settlement. So we saw the dilemma. The select committee saw the dilemma that if you are going to ascribe rights and functions within a settlement the cost should be provided for albeit to make clear I guess what the obligation and expectation arising from the river settlement management instruments could be towards Koroki Kahukura. I think partly what they were asking for was to give clarity on how their co-management function could be carried out and to be able to accept the true cost of this. [Bell rung] Unfortunately we were unable to achieve that and again that was probably what led to the email.There were other issues in relation to land-banked properties and we have to see the three land-banked properties that were identified in relation to Maungatautari mountain. In terms of Maungatautari itself—and both Louise Upston and Sue Moroney will know quite clearly what the tensions are—the community certainly was very concerned about the transfer of ownership of Maungatautari mountain to Ngāti Koroki Kahukura in andof themselves. In 2011 when all those tensions resurfaced it brought into question the extent to which the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations was prepared to consider the three properties that were identified in Arapuni. This became a problem. This was certainly how it was explained at the select committee level.The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Sorry I rang the bell—a 2 minute bell in fact. When the clock was set it was set at 5 minutes so you actually have some more time.Hon NANAIA MAHUTA: Oh fantastic!The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): So that is my apology. You actually have 5 more minutes—my apologies.Hon NANAIA MAHUTA: Fantastic. So I can take my time here. As I said the members listening to the debate have to consider the aspiration of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura in wanting the full title of the maunga returned to them in the context that it was a very political issue. What we have in the bill is an establishment of the Te Hapori o Maungatautari which is a community-wide if you like way of managing the maunga.I accept that the political tensions have been very high and tense and it is positive to hear that the Minister says that further negotiation around the fence—in particular the ownership of it—can continue to happen. It needs to happen because if we want to ensure that Maungatautari is a maunga that everyone can continue to enjoy have access to and be a part of preserving—again—the ecological regeneration and repatriation of native wildlife to that place then a very fluid and committed conversation has to happen with the ongoing management of Maungatautari.The three properties that were identified by Ngāti Koroki Kahukura when they went into this settlement did not become a part of their redress package. They did convey to us through the submissions whether this could be reconsidered. We were told that there was an objection by Ngāti Raukawa their neighbours and on that basis there was no instrument or provision to reconsider the transfer of these properties because an objection existed.Can I say that at select committee this started to raise questions about the issue of whether there should be an opportunity to retrospectively reconsider properties when things have moved on. So in 2011 when there were tensions around Maungatautari and the issues of the Arapuni properties got put on hold because of those tensions and in 2012 when it came closer to the time to actually complete the legislation there was no ability to go back and address this. I think that is more a policy issue. We recognise that. But it provided the curious situation where we thought: “Heck if these two parties can’t agree and they don’t have the ability as time has passed to reconsider whether they can come to some kind of agreement because time makes all the world of difference you could get the situation where properties that have been rightly identified with tribal interests could be sold outside of either interest.” and it just did not make sense to us.So Minister we understand that this is a policy issue. We understand that there was no scope for officials to move this forward but I think common sense should have prevailed. If in the event any one of these three properties goes on the open market and neither Raukawa nor Ngāti Koroki has the ability to buy back these properties then I think it is a great shame. If in the event the way in which Ngāti Raukawa interests to purchase these properties are strengthened because of their objection through a process then again I do not think that the outcome has really served the best interests of the parties who have a clear relationship to those lands. I say this knowing that officials have put their minds to these issues and heard some very abrasive views from Ngāti Koroki Kahukura on the matter. But I am heartened that none of these issues affected the quantum of the settlement that they do have.There is an opportunity for Ngāti Koriko Kahukura to continue to convey their aspirations as tangata whenua kaitiaki in their rohe. There could be more to be done in this space of Maungatautari. I hope that greater commitment can be achieved and that people do not fear what Ngāti Koroki Kahukura can do for the benefit of—certainly—the maunga the community and the river. Tēnā koutou katoa.Hon Dr PITA SHARPLES (Minister of Māori Affairs): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. Tēnā tātou katoa. I am pleased to support the second reading of the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill.In 1863 war broke out resulting in the deaths of some of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura and the capture of others including their esteemed rangatira Tīoriori. Despite their preference for peace Ngāti Koroki Kahukura were named rebels and for that had much of their land confiscated. But this iwi still maintained their interests in their homeland including these areas: from Karapiro along the Pukekura Range and through Rotorangi and Puahue in the west from Maungatautari 4 and 5 blocks to the top of Lake Arapuni in the south and then following the Waikato River back to Piarere in the east and from Piarere to the south of the Maungakawa Reserve and back to Karapiro in the north. Ko Maungatautari te maunga ko Waikato te awa tipuna ko Ngāti Koroki Kahukura te iwi.[Maungatautari is the mountain Waikato is the ancestral river and Ngāti Koroki Kahukura is the tribe.]Maungatautari was and remains their tipuna their ancestral mountain central to their identity. Yet in the 19th century the land in and around the maunga fell victim to Crown-imposed tenure reform. As a result Ngāti Koroki Kahukura were involved in more than 50 Native Land Court hearings before 1901. Swamps and wetlands were drained and the Waikato River polluted and hydroelectric power schemes depleted their traditional fisheries and flooded culturally significant sites. By the end of the 20th century Ngāti Koroki Kahukura had become virtually landless. However the history of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura is yet another volume in the stories of this country that some of us know yet many New Zealanders do not.Today this bill seeks to rectify these and other wrongs imposed by the Crown on Ngāti Koroki Kahukura. This bill records a history of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura and the Crown apology to Ngāti Koroki Kahukura for the operation of the native land and public works legislation the failure of the Crown to protect the traditional tribal structures of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura the Crown’s failure to recognise and provide for their relationship to Maungatautari and Waikato River and the Crown policies and laws that led to the economic social environmental and cultural degradation of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura and their physical and spiritual presence.Like the other speakers I say that we have the third reading coming up and I will reserve most of my comments for that time. I would just like to acknowledge that it has been referenced by many people that these histories are not known outside their area. I repeat what I said in an earlier speech which is we have now begun work with the Government’s Ministry of Education Te Tāhuhu o te Mātauranga to set up a framework so that our histories from each hapū each area and each rohe can be provided and then put on to this framework and put into schools. All children will learn about their local marae and the history of it the hapū the movement in the past and so on. Battles that have taken place which are missing from the plaques here in the Chamber—the big battles that determined how Māori lived for a whole 100 years after that—are very important. I stand in support of this bill today. Thank you.MEKA WHAITIRI (Labour—Ikaroa-Rāwhiti): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. Tēnā koutou katoa. I too rise in support of the second reading of the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill. I also want to acknowledge the work of the Koroki Kahukura negotiators the Māori Affairs Committee and the Minister for Treaty ofWaitangi Negotiations—of course well supported by his officials. The Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill gives effect to the deed of settlement signed on 20 December 2012 and the deed to amend signed in October 2013 between the Crown and Ngāti Koroki Kahukura. By signing these documents the Crown and Ngāti Koroki Kahukura agree to the final settlement of the non-raupatu historical Treaty of Waitangi claims for Ngāti Koroki Kahukura.As in previous calls I have taken in this House in acknowledgment of the three Treaty bills before the House I want to draw the House’s attention to the unique qualities of this particular settlement bill. It was touched on by my colleague the Hon Nanaia Mahuta. I do not really want to go over what she said but really to give a bit more emphasis particularly around the acknowledgment of the co-management of the Waikato River the seeking by the people of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura and obviously taking care of the river through the Waikato-Tainui Raupatu Claims (Waikato River) Settlement Act of 2010 but in this particular case—and as a submitter shared with us at Karapiro—the absolute desire of these people to assist in the co-management in their catchment area of this magnificent river the awa of Waikato.We heard their submissions and reflected on what was said before the select committee. Like a lot of the iwi up the Waikato River when it comes down to the nitty-gritty of managing their particular catchment areas they are wanting more engagement. But we as the select committee and with the advice of the officials acknowledged Ngāti Koroki Kahukura as a representative on the governance of the Waikato River but I guess the rubber hits the road in terms of being active members along the river where their tribal boundaries are. I do acknowledge the particular submission that came forward and of course the way that the select committee with the advice of the officials has dealt with that. I am trying to get the good parts out of it before I turn to the Arapuni land banking properties and like my honourable colleague mention a certain email.I do want to draw the House’s attention—and it was touched on again by Ms Mahuta—to the lack of mechanisms when we cannot get agreement with cross-claimants on particular properties. It was unfortunate that we could not deal with what Koroki Kahukura were asking around these two land-banked properties in Arapuni. As a result of discussions between both Raukawa and Koroki Kahukura we could not get agreement to ring-fence those properties until a later point to then come back and negotiate how best to claim those properties. I want to add my weight behind Nanaia Mahuta’s claim that we must forge another mechanism for properties that fall squarely in the boundary of Treaty claims—in these cases Raukawa and Koroki Kahukura.I myself as a member of the Māori Affairs Committee could not live with myself if an opportunity to give back property could not be realised simply because the two respective parties could not find a way through. That often happens in Treaty settlements. Parties cannot agree but we cannot then take it and put it on the open market which unfortunately is what is happening with these two Arapuni properties. If there is anything to learn from this particular bill it is about the opportunity to create mechanisms for that very purpose of maybe land banking property that cannot be agreed between two interested parties. I would support the Minister in directing officials to examine that and come back with joint management options that I know are possible and have been used in previous settlements.I want to acknowledge as previous speakers have the hard work of all those concerned. But I want to draw the House’s attention to an email. My colleague did refer to it. She is a lot more diplomatic than me. Like many members in this House I have been both on the side of and the receiver of emails that call into question the commitment of Māori members in this House. I took exception to that email calling intoquestion the desire and the absolute commitment of Māori members of this House to do what is right for their people. I took exception to that email like I said. I am not going to name that person because that person seems to dine out on the fact that their name is bandied around but Tau knows him because I know Tau must be related to him.I just want people to know that not only the members of the Māori Affairs Committee in terms of dealing with Treaty settlements but Māori members in this House work tirelessly as all members of the House do to ensure the aspirations particularly around Treaty bills are dealt with fairly constructively and in good faith. To have somebody who should know better calling into question the decisions of the select committee I think not only does him a disservice but also does a disservice to the people whom he aligns himself with. I have seen plenty of acts where people are prepared to burn bridges and walk away. It is the people and in this case it is the iwi who are left to pick up the pieces. My tip is to say to people in their passion to get things right. A bit of diplomacy goes a long way such as a bit of picking up the phone and having constructive conversations. Firing off open-air emails that call everybody’s mana into question I think is not the way to go. I am going to leave it there in terms of that kaupapa.Coming back it is a great day for Ngāti Koroki Kahukura in this second reading. I support the bill wholeheartedly like all members of this House and look forward to the galleries being filled with people from Karapiro and Waikato-Tainui in support of the third reading of what is a significant bill the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill. I commend this bill to the House. Kia ora tātou.DENISE ROCHE (Green): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. Tēnā koutou e te Whare. Rau rangatira mā tēnei te mihi ki a koutou i runga i te kaupapa o te rā. Tēnā koutou tēnā koutou tēnā koutou katoa.[Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker. Greetings to you collectively in the House. Leaders of a hundredfold I acknowledge you in regard to the matter of the day. Salutations greetings and congratulations to you all.]It is my privilege to take the call for the Green Party to speak on the second reading of this bill the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill. I maintain that it is a privilege. To be in this House at a time in history when the Crown seeks to right the wrongs and heal the hurt is an opportunity that very few New Zealanders actually get and there are only 121 MPs allowed in this House. This is where we see the founding document of our country Te Tiriti o Waitangi which enables non-Māori to live in this land peaceably. This is where we see te Tiriti finally honoured after many many many breaches that have left the people of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura dispossessed poor and scattered.I was not able to come to hear the submissions on this bill that were made to the Māori Affairs Committee in Karapiro which is a shame because there is a much clearer understanding achieved when the select committee hears the experiences and notes the concerns of submitters kanohi ki te kanohi—face to face. So I offer my apologies to the people of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura for that. I did however have a close look at all the supporting evidence all the written submissions so that I could get a clearer picture of the issues and add to my understanding of the report that the committee has presented to the House. Those submissions and there were 12 of them include support from neighbouring iwi from hapū within the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura iwi and from community organisations with conservation interests in the land that will be recognised as being within the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura domain. There is a submission from the local council also in support of all that the settlement outlines.I note though that no settlement is without controversy and I must state that the Green Party does hold concerns that these settlements can set Māori against Māori andin so doing create possibly more breaches of te Tiriti. There are frequently concerns about competing claims with other iwi who also have links to the wāhi tapu and whenua in the area as outlined in the area of interest in the settlement bill. There are frequently overlapping claims and this settlement is no exception. So I just want to acknowledge what the previous speaker Meka Whaitiri said in acknowledging the Arapuni land and how that has been dealt with. It is an area of conflict and competing interests. But I also want to acknowledge Ngāti Koroki Kahukura who have worked with their neighbouring iwi to try to resolve some of those differences.I note that Ngāti Koroki Kahukura maintain their mana whenua status as having dominant interest in their sacred maunga Maungatautari although the ownership of the reserve rests with the co-management structure Te Hapori o Maungatautari which comprises other iwi and members of the wider community. This is an incredibly sophisticated and quite a difficult set-up. Co-management which I note Ngāti Koroki Kahukura have also engaged with in the treatment of their awa and their domain within the Waikato River is not an easy road but it is a road that gives the status of mana whenua to the tangata whenua of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura. That is crucial to maintaining the status of the iwi. Co-management is a way forward and I understand that and I wish Ngāti Koroki Kahukura all my best wishes for the work that they will be doing to restore the wairua of the river. We support the legislation because we are aware that Ngāti Koroki Kahukura are looking forward to the settlement in this bill as it will pave a way forward and place the iwi on a better economic footing. It will never ever compensate for what they have lost and the harms that were done to them by the Crown.I have to make a political point because the Greens always do. We never ever feel that these bills are full and final settlements because the negotiation process is not an even-handed process and we have seen that. There is really no option but for iwi to take what is offered even though they negotiate hard. I pay my respects to the negotiation teams who have worked on this bill but it is a deal. It is the best deal that iwi could get at this particular time but there may also be further impacts on generations of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura to come. That is why we do not believe that the settlement is final. Having said that we celebrate with Ngāti Koroki Kahukura the passing of this settlement bill through its second reading today. We will of course be supporting it. Nō reira tēnā koutou tēnā koutou tēnā koutou katoa.LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupō): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. I am pleased to be able to stand and take a brief call in the second reading of the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill. The iwi is of course in the electorate of Taupō. Actually the area where I live is Karapiro which of course is a very significant part of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura’s lands.This has been an interesting process working through some very challenging issues with the settlement. I think there have probably been some highs and lows in the process. I will keep most of my comments to the third reading which is really the opportunity to traverse it in more detail with the iwi here. But I do just want to make the point that I think Minister Finlayson was incredible in coming up with a solution for Maungatautari that some would argue was not perfect but it was actually acceptable to everybody. It was a very fractious issue. To be honest I was quite revolted by the extent of what actually occurred and how divisive it became in the community. What impressed me more than anything was the Minister’s commitment to finding a solution that was accepted and the fact that I would request his involvement at meeting after meeting after meeting and he would come back every single time to find a way through.The solution of vesting the mountain in the community has never been done before. I really admire the fact that we have a Minister who is so committed—so committed—to endurable and lasting solutions that he is willing to explore all sorts of avenues in orderto do that. So I want at this stage to commend the Minister for his creative thinking in solving what are some very challenging and fractious issues.The other thing I want to say is that I was pleased to be able to rejoin the Māori Affairs Committee—albeit only temporarily—for the hearings and submissions at Karapiro. I think it is really important to be able to hear the submitters and understand them although I do regret that I was not a member of the Māori Affairs Committee in taking the next step of the process to getting to today. But I am very confident that we have got the bill to a place that is acceptable. Yes there are a couple of issues that potentially we can pursue further but more important we have a solution that the iwi are happy with and that the community can also accept and enjoy. I think that is where we have got to—a really great place. Thank you.LOUISA WALL (Labour—Manurewa): Kia ora Mr Assistant Speaker. E ngā mana e ngā reo e rau rangatira mā me ngā whānau o Ngāti Korokī Kahukura tēnā koutou tēnā koutou tēnā tātou katoa.[Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker. To the authorities voices and leaders of a hundredfold the families of Ngāti Koroki Kahukura greetings salutations and congratulations to you collectively and to us all.]I would like to talk about justice because the chair of our Māori Affairs Committee Tau Henare brought up this concept of justice this morning within the context of my wanting to talk about our Treaty settlement process being about truth and reconciliation. I guess I premise my speech with that because for me the truth is that the facts and the history of our country is now encapsulated within our legislation. I want to pick up what the Hon Pita Sharples has said. The big challenge for the House now is disseminating that history that reality of our country so that every young person in our education system knows about the specifics within their rohe and the specific experience that the mana whenua have had within the rohe of all of our kura in our history as a country. That is the truth part of the process.In terms of reconciliation for me it is about relationships and partnerships going forward. I guess if we look at definitions reconciliation is about restoring relationships. It is about becoming amicable and fundamentally it is about harmonious and cooperative relationships which we all want our Treaty settlements to be. For us it is that process that will enable us to forgive what has happened in the past and to move forward with confidence. It is about iwi groups and the Crown working towards a common goal. I guess that is why for me this process is about truth and reconciliation.I do want to talk about justice. Within the context of this particular Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill that justice relates back to the 1860s—1863—when 1.2 million acres was taken from Waikato iwi. That was the raupatu of 1.2 million acres. In 1871 313364 acres was returned to Māori. So the Crown took 1.2 million acres and it returned 313000 acres which was approximately 26 percent of the lands that were taken from Waikato iwi. Then if I pick up on another point that Minister Sharples made by 1901 there had been 50 Native Land Court hearings that Ngāti Koroki Kahukura had been specifically involved in. What they got in terms of that 26 percent of lands taken was 800 acres returned which is 0.25 percent of the 1.2 million acres that was taken from Māori.What do we have in this settlement? The return of 20 properties. It is 110 hectares which equates to 44.44 acres. That is 5.55 percent of the lands that were returned to them in 1871. Is that justice? That is not justice. It is absolutely not justice but it is the honour of our iwi leadership the integrity of our iwi leadership that they want to move forward in a positive and constructive manner. So no way should we ever frame this as being about justice because it is not justice. It is about Māori—our whānau our hapūand our iwi—wanting to take control of their lives. It is about mana motuhake. It is about tino rangatiratanga.Within these settlements the vesting of opportunities for our hapū and iwi to be involved in the Maungatautiri Mountain Scenic Reserve is incredibly important. What that does is say to our communities across Aotearoa that Māori have a significant and special status that is over and above citizenship status or status that is conferred on us through the democratic process. What it says is that by right Māori—tangata whenua mana whenua specific iwi—have rights and responsibilities to ensure that these geographically identified taonga will for ever have their kaitiakitanga over them. Actually these are the significant parts of these Treaty settlements that I think going into the future will provide that platform for partnership that this process has enabled. In the future that is what we will be held to account for the most. It is that. It is the implementation of these Treaty settlement partnership opportunities that we as a Parliament will be held to account for more than anything else.I am not going to speak for much longer other than to again acknowledge Ngāti Koroki Kahukura and their mandated negotiator the Taumatawiwi Trust. It is the leaders within our iwi groups whose settlements these are and to whom we have to pay the ultimate tribute because without their leadership we would not move forward. I look forward to the day when they have their third reading when they have their piece of legislation that will enable them to move forward with the pride and positiveness that they had because what we do know is that our iwi groups were prosperous. They were flourishing. We had lands. We used our lands in constructive ways. We fed ourselves. We clothed ourselves. We did not need intervention from anybody else. That base which was taken from us actually needs to be recognised. But we also need to recognise that as the Government moves forward the relationships it has forged specifically those with iwi and hapū are really going to be the testament to how committed it is to this Treaty settlement process. Nō reira tēnā koutou tēnā koutou tēnā tātou katoa.Hon TAU HENARE (National): Of course it is about justice. Of course it is about justice not some sort of fanciful notion that this is about truth and reconciliation. Like I said—Louisa Wall: It’s my words.Hon TAU HENARE: —no I did not interrupt you—this is about the steps towards justice. I never said this is about justice. I said—and I used the analogy of a 100-metre race—that we are in the very first steps of that race to justice. Somebody’s definition of justice is somebody else’s definition of something else—and I accept that that member may have different ideas about what this is—but this is essentially about righting a wrong. This is essentially about the beginnings of justice. This is about justice. Somebody took something from me I have gone to court and I have sought reparations. Those reparations may not be what you might have wished for but at the end of the day it is the beginning of a process. If what I hear from a number of members of Parliament today is that it is not enough and we should not be doing it—Louisa Wall: No one said that.Hon TAU HENARE: Actually if you listen to some of the speeches from my Green colleagues that is what they hinted at—that is what they hinted at. It is about getting to a place where you say: “Yes we agree on the historical events. Yes we agree on reparations.”—whether they are monetary or they are cultural redress. That in itself is the start of a justice process. It is not the be-all and end-all and it never will be but at the end of the day it is part and parcel of a justice process because that is what it was always about.When somebody or an organisation takes something from you there have to be consequences. Whether it is war whether it is financial settlement or whether it is the return of land—whatever—that is always up for negotiation. So I take my hat off to those who have been involved in the negotiation process and I take my hat off to those people who have been able to get to a point where the two sides can sit down and sign it. Nobody forces people to do anything. Nobody forces people to accept what is on offer. At the end of the day it is about a process and we have got to a point in that process where the two sides are reasonably happy. It will take most probably another 100 years to get to another point in the 100-metre race but that is for other people to decide long after we have gone from this place.I want to make a quick mention of Willie Te Aho who is a firebrand who is uncannily like me who jumps in where most probably angels fear to tread and who goes off like I do. In fact he is so much like me it is scary. We should not get too worried about people like that because they add to the mix. They add to the whole part of Treaty negotiations—and people’s passion. Without passion we will not get anywhere. Without belief we will not get anywhere. So I do take my hat off to people like Linda Te Aho and Willie Te Aho who have put all of their lives on the line.Meka Whaitiri: Linda’s not like Willie.Hon TAU HENARE: Oh no. I will tell you what—if we cannot handle a few criticisms in this place and I know that I have had a few over the 15 years that I have been here we need to harden up. We really do need to harden up. This is a brutal place. It can be brutal within our own Parliament but also the criticisms from the public for whatever reason—whether they are right or wrong—are brutal but we should know the day that we come in here that that is going to happen. I hear what the sister is saying and I appreciate what she is saying.Meka Whaitiri: I worry about the cost to the iwi.Hon TAU HENARE: Well actually I think if you are going to individualise it to Willie himself Willie has done a huge amount in getting a number of settlements to the closure stage. This is really the first time that he has actually gone off in terms of a Treaty settlement that he has been involved in. I am not going to besmirch his reputation. Everybody knows that he got settlements throughout the motu and that was what he was paid for and that was what he was passionate about. So cut some people some slack if they now and again tend to go off.Anyway those are all related matters. The fact is that we are here at the second reading. We are here at that part of the settlement process. I look forward before the election and before the House pulls up sticks to our getting to the third reading of this bill the Ngāti Hauā bill and the Tūhoe bill at least. I think that will be a satisfactory point where we get to in this Parliament and it leaves whatever comes next for the next Parliament. Kia ora.SUE MORONEY (Labour): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. It is an honour to rise and take a short call on the second reading of the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill. This is a bill that has been given a lot of serious consideration by the Māori Affairs Committee and I wish to congratulate the members of that committee and the officials who have worked on this bill on getting it to this stage. As the last speaker Tau Henare said I very much look forward to the third reading of this bill because again this is an area that is close to my heart. Geographically it is very close to where I live. I know of much of the hard work and challenges that have been going on with discussions in this area. I want to particularly acknowledge the cultural redress part of this package with Maungatautari the importance of that maunga to many people living in and around the Waikato area and the foresight of various community representatives.Again I want to put forward my utter faith in the ability of the people who will have governance to ensure that this maunga which is groundbreaking—if I can use that term about a mountain—in terms of being an ecological island continues to progress forward as an ecological island. I was certainly present on the maunga the day the Rt Hon Helen Clark in her role as the then Prime Minister ensured sufficient State funding went into helping to bring about that ecological island. It was a very proud day for many many people. I know there has been a lot of controversy surrounding the management of that maunga but I feel confident about the approach taken with this settlement bill and the way in which the iwi will ensure their guardianship of the land. Those things will stand us in good stead as we go forward.The only other thing I really want to comment on here is how much I am looking forward to seeing the Te Manawa o Matariki tangata whenua facility that is to be developed at the Lake Karapiro domain. I think that will be something that will be a cherished taonga for many people living in the area and obviously many visitors as well because Lake Karapiro is of course an area that attracts many tourists and many visitors. I think that will be a wonderful development and I really look forward to seeing that as it develops.As always with Treaty settlement bills there are many stories that need to be told. There are many stories yet to be told. There is the reflection of this House across parties that needs to happen in a very thorough manner at the third reading. I will in recommending this bill to the House now resume my seat so we can work towards that third reading taking place before this House rises for the election.CLAUDETTE HAUITI (National): Tēnā koe Mr Assistant Speaker. I rise to take a short call on the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill. I want to touch on several aspects that were found during the select committee process.The Māori Affairs Committee examined the bill and recommended that it be passed with the following amendments. Regarding the land-banked properties at Arapuni the select committee considered whether a mechanism is needed to preserve future interests of any iwi in two land-banked properties at Arapuni. When it came to the time to sign the deed of settlement the Crown felt that the positions were irreconcilable and there was no available mechanism for the parties to find a resolution. When the Raukawa and Ngāti Koroki Kahukura settlements are completed these properties will be sold on the open market and both iwi will have the opportunity to purchase them if they wish.In relation to land subject to the right of first refusal the select committee recommended amending the bill so that that land could cease to be subject to the right of first refusal in circumstances where the governance entity waived or varied its rights in relation to the land. This would then allow the land in question to be transferred in accordance with the waiver or variation.I wanted to raise those issues because in and around that there was a lot of discussion challenges and push back on both the Crown and the select committee. I would like to acknowledge Linda Te Aho for leading the negotiations. I would also like to acknowledge Willie Te Aho as well. Willie and his contribution to the economic and social development of Māori over the years is very well-known and very well respected. The Māori business economy is worth around $38 billion. The return to GDP is between $8 billion and $12 billion. In and around that has been the work that Willie Te Aho has done on behalf of iwi to ensure that rangatiratanga is met to ensure that motuhake according to the definition of the iwi and the hapū is adhered to and to ensure that kotahitanga the relationship between the two Treaty partners is enduring.Although we as individuals may not like the challenges or may not like the comments or criticisms at the end of the day we are here to serve. We are here to serve the people of New Zealand. We are here to serve Māori Pākehā—all New Zealanders.If we do not like those criticisms and if we do not like those challenges then we should not be here. This is the Ngāti Koroki Kahukura Claims Settlement Bill. I commend it to the House.Bill read a second time.The House adjourned at 11.54 a.m (Thursday)