Lee DeniseDENISE LEE (National—Maungakiekie): It is my opinion and the opinion of our side on this side of the House that this is well-intentioned but the scope is misplaced in this particular bill. I do join in wishing Jan Logie and the team well. I echo the words of my colleague Alfred Ngaro when he said that we don't differ in intent; it's about mechanisms and this bill unfairly places a significant burden on small business when it comes to the scourge and the reality—the cold stark and awful reality—that is family violence. It's not a sustainable way though to keep addressing and resolving the massive issue that we face.If we want to make a real difference what we're contending here on this side is that we should be progressing the Family and Whānau Violence Legislation Bill. It's waiting in the wings. It is huge in scope and intent—actually more than intent; it is addressing root problems and root causes. And I would contend that for the Government this is about Government priorities. I realise that this is a member's bill but the Government has a chance to figure out its priorities in this particular space. That Family and Whānau Violence Legislation Bill has been sitting on the Order Paper for over nine months now.I would really caution incredibly strongly caution—and I said this when I spoke previously on this bill—anyone on that side of the House against reducing this to saying that our side our team are pro-business above pro-victims. That is absolutely not the case. If that was the case then there wouldn't be the Integrated Safety Response pilot that we came up with. There wouldn't be social investment blood sweat and tears that we've gone through. There wouldn't be the Family and Whānau Violence Legislation Bill. Those are actions not just—and in fact someone on the other side of the House was heckling and saying Words words words." Well no those were actions actions actions. So that's where we come from and where we find ourselves here tonight. Just because this is a sensitive issue it doesn't mean that we should have misplaced targeted legislation going through this House. It's about the right mechanisms for what will make a difference. There is a massive issue. Yes it does need addressing and we've had ideas that are ready to go.I'd just point out two things in closing. I guess I'm kind of interested and curious as to why if this is a member's bill that members of the Government are hugely behind they didn't pick this up as a Government bill. That's of interest to me. And the other is—and I guess this is a gripe. I wasn't here as an MP at the time but I'm told that when we consulted extensively on the Family and Whānau Violence Legislation Bill there was no call from anyone for special paid leave for family violence victims then. That's of interest to me. No one called for that then.I'll just finish by echoing what it was that we were calling for in terms of a moderate position on this bill and that was that we extend the definition of existing leave entitlements to more explicitly include those affected by domestic violence. That wasn't accepted and we find ourselves here tonight and with reluctance we can't support the bill."