SpeechHon MAGGIE BARRY (National—North Shore): Thank you Madam Chair. The issue that I have with what the last member said just before she resumed her seat Louisa Wall is that the confines of this bill will not stay confined. A group of us tonight listened to Professor Theo Boer who talked about the situation in Holland which has changed quite dramatically: 18 changes have occurred before it ever needed to be brought back to the House. There are now protocols for euthanising newborns. The consequences of passing a piece of legislation of this kind that is so poorly crafted with so few protections and provisions to protect the vulnerable in it is that it will expand immediately and irrevocably and there is no going back. That is something that Professor Boer has talked about.So the issues that are in Part 3 are very important ones because who decides normally in Parliament what happens? Ultimately it's a ministerial responsibility. A Minister has to be accountable. I don't think that a life-and-death situation—which is why I put this Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) together looking at the involvement of a Minister—can be put to a public servant or an administrator to take responsibility for. So when we look at a Part 3 that has accountability and responsibility at its core I see as a member of Parliament for the past eight years that the best way to ensure proper accountability and that things don't go badly awry is to involve a Minister.We have heard Professor Boer say that in Holland they've put in motion something that they now discovered—and I'm quoting here—has far more consequences than we ever imagined." because the supply of euthanasia stirs the demand and for an increasing amount of people euthanasia becomes the default way to die. So the culture of despair is something that a Minister of the Crown would be very aware of and have a political antenna over as well. So it is another layer of responsibility which I think is very important. As the disabilities commissioner Paula Tesoriero has said this is a bill that undermines the position of the disabled and the vulnerable. It devalues their lives and poses significant risks. The so-called right to die for some would all too easily become a duty to die for others.In my Supplementary Order Paper 357 I would like to alter clause 21(5) to insert "any matter on which the Minister directs them to report from time to time:". So the Minister can come in at any time they like and make a decision based on informed material. The register which doesn't properly list at this stage—and there are SOPs from colleagues that will try and make that safer and I really do hope the members opposite who thundered during the select committee process—Greg O'Connor—might pay attention to this and see that even that member has a contribution to make to making this a safer bill.When we look at the things that need to be available for a Minister to decide what needs to change if things are going wrong if there is a maverick physician who's doing bad things then at a ministerial level it can be arrested. So a Minister has the power to direct the reporting they wish at their discretion. These are the kinds of things that are day-to-day bread and butter for any Minister holding a portfolio but in this case there is no proper oversight and I think that that combined with the lack of data and the woeful situation and complete absence of safeguards in ensuring that the data that is gathered and put on this register is at an appropriate level is really something that needs ministerial oversight but we also need to ensure that a review committee collects information that is going to be relevant to that Minister to make the right kinds of decisions.So again when we're looking at something that is so important we have to be very careful because doctors in Holland apparently and in places like Canada as well—which are really the two jurisdictions that we should focus on because they are the ones on which this flimsy bill is based. But in terms of the way that the doctors behave the self-reporting is a problem. Just say you're in a car you're hurtling at 100 kilometres an hour in a 60-kilometre-an-hour area and you go through a red light. You've broken the law. Are you going to write to the Ministry of Transport and say "At 5.35 I broke the law."? No you're not and the doctors in Holland are not doing that either.To me one of the issues under the register is how to gather the material and stop doctors doing I suppose an exercise to protect themselves as opposed to protecting their patients. We understand that about 7000 or 8000 people were euthanised in Holland last year and now we see—[Time expired]"