Utikere Tangi; Kuriger Barbara; Costello CaseyTANGI UTIKERE (Labour—Palmerston North): Kia orana. Thank you Madam Chair. This is my first opportunity to take a call on what is Part 2. I do have some questions for the Minister that I do hope she will provide an answer for the Chamber. I think that it is really important because a reminder—this is a bill that is going through committee stage under urgency. We haven't had an opportunity from the members of the community who undoubtedly will have issues that they would like to have addressed. So I do hope the Minister does address them. It does relate to clause 29 which a couple of colleagues have already touched on. It is the repeal of the sections 22 to 26 which is known as the Repeal of the Smokefree Generation" clauses. I guess when you look at that it doesn't immediately become clear. My question to the Minister is around what specific advice or engagement she has had that relates to young people who would be involved in terms of who would be affected as part of the potential smokefree generation that the Government seems to want to undo.The reason I am keen to hear the Minister's thoughts on this is because in contributions earlier in the day leading up to this point on this bill there were many reflections made about the select committee process that the parent bill had gone through and the many many organisations who submitted as part of that process. Now naturally when a piece of legislation is progressing through the House under urgency with no select committee scrutiny opportunity that opportunity to the community is gone. So I'm interested to hear what specific advice she has received that relates to those who would be impacted as part of a smoke-free generation but also what specific engagement she has had with those individuals with those young people as to what their views are around this. I think that's particularly important given that this is something that the coalition Government in the lead-up to the election didn't campaign on. So it has come out of the blue for many people including young people. I think that the Minister being able to provide that opportunity would be quite helpful.The other point that I want to refer to is on Subpart 2. This relates to amendments to Smokefree Environments and Regulated Products Regulations 2021 specifically clause 35. My questions are around subparts 2A and 2B that relate to Part 3. My question to the Minister: I did hear her answer around denicotinisation and that was a response for what is regulation 61A when it comes to the limits on constituents or the products within the tobacco product but I didn't quite hear from the Minister whether she thought that there was an acceptable reason as to why even though you set aside denicotinisation there is still an opportunity to maintain that provision within the regulations. So it's not saying that just because denicotinisation is the aim or the end goal but wanting to hear from the Minister whether she is prepared to think a bit broader than that and accept that there are situations where there might be constituent substances that are obviously up to no good but whether she would resolve from that original position in light of the information that has been provided to the Committee.The other is in relation to Subpart 2B and it is regulation 61B. There are three components within that regulation that relates to the product's safety requirements. What's very clear is that there is a process outlined for someone who has a complaint about a product to effectively register and work through. Now the steps are actually quite clear. Not only are they quite clear they are also quite detailed in the sense of what they would relate to. So my question to Minister is whether she believes that it is appropriate to simply wipe that regulation in its entirety and if so what does she say to the provision of some sort of process to ensure that there is product safety for those that want to raise some concerns? This regulation provides an opportunity for anyone who has an issue about the product safety requirements to effectively engage in a process. By removing that I'm still not clear and that's why I'd like the Minister to respond as to whether there is a separate process or whether she is comfortable that the process that's outlined here is just going to remain in place. Madam Chair?CHAIRPERSON (Barbara Kuriger): Tangi Utikere—oh the honourable Minister. Perhaps we'll give the Minister a chance and I'll come back.Hon CASEY COSTELLO (Associate Minister of Health): I just want to touch first on the fears about increased smoking as a result of vaping being tightened and smoking. We're not changing any other components of the smoking regulations that currently exist—we're only making amendments to things that are not yet in place. So as we've seen a significant turn-round from smoking I can't see that there would be any logic to raise alarm about smoking increasing. I'd reiterate again the reference to clause 35 that relates specifically to the testing for the nicotine levels as part of the denicotinisation. All other existing testing programmes are remaining in place.TANGI UTIKERE (Labour—Palmerston North): Thank you Madam Chair. There are still an outstanding couple of questions that relate to the level of engagement that the Minister has had with young people. So I am hoping that she will pick up on that. That has given rise to a further question in my own mind around the nature of advice that the Minister has received not just specifically around the repeal of the smoke-free generation but in terms of removing those regulations as well that relate to members of our Pasifika community. As a part of the process of the Health Committee that led to this principal piece of legislation we heard as members of that committee a lot of commentary a lot of personal experience from members of that particular community of interest. Again without a select committee process we don't have that. So I am interested in not just the thoughts of young people but what specific advice has the Minister received in terms of engagement with our Pasifika community given that Pacific members of this House will want to know that the views they might have in relation to these proposals have been considered. So I look forward perhaps to the Minister taking the opportunity to provide not just the response to young people but to members of our Pasifika community as well."