Mooney Joseph; Henare Peeni; Salesa JennyJOSEPH MOONEY (National—Southland): Thank you Madam Chair. Minister just to finish off that questioning I had before just about the immunity from liability for assessors outside the Public Service—just for the record and for anyone watching can you just advise where else this is used in other regulation or similar legislation? I note the comment before that it's not unusual for this provision for liability to be extended from the Public Service to those who are exercising the powers of the Public Service but who are outside of the Public Service. Just for the record could you just clarify examples of that?Hon PEENI HENARE (Minister of Forestry): Two examples. The first one was the one I mentioned which is the Public Service Act; that's rather broad. The other one though is—which the advisers have just told me—the Animal Products Act does something very similar and as I understand it it's quite a common feature in a number of bills or legislation that govern the Ministry for Primary Industries and the work that they do in the primary sector.JOSEPH MOONEY (National—Southland): Thank you Madam Chair. Now Minister I'm just going to turn to your Supplementary Order Paper again and this is on page 4 of the Minister's Supplementary Order Paper 349 near the top where it's just talking about clause 26 replacing section 63Y of the principal Act—it's on page 4 near the top. It relates to the revocation of a forestry adviser's registration and it says New section 63Y enables the Forestry Authority to revoke registration if the person has failed within a reasonable time to take appropriate corrective action to remedy the deficiency or failure that caused the suspension and the person has not sought a review of the decision to suspend registration."Now I would just be interested to know what definition if any there is in terms of guidance around what a reasonable time would be to provide some certainty. It may be in the Supplementary Order Paper and I may not have seen it—with a brief look—and I didn't notice it. I just think it would be helpful to have some clarification about what is meant by a "reasonable time" in terms of this new section 63Y because that could be no doubt quite an important question for folks who may be facing revocation of their licence.The other point related to this is: I note that it says "if … the person has not sought a review of the decision to suspend registration."  and is their time frame in terms of when that decision can be proceeded with to revoke it if the person has not sought a review? So question one is: what's the definition of a reasonable time for the person to take appropriate corrective action? And question two is: what is the time frame that's considered appropriate? So if a person has not sought a review when the registration can be cancelled or revoked.Hon PEENI HENARE (Minister of Forestry): I thank the member for the question. The first part: I would like to say that the reason that the term "reasonable" is in there is because it is too arbitrary depending on the nature of the reason for the revocation of their licence. It could be minor things such as not keeping up with their fees. It could be more serious misconduct that might mean that the use of reasonable time in working with the agency and with the officials on the matter is probably more suited to a bit of a blanket catch on all of these matters instead of being too specific given the arbitrary nature depending on what the offence might be. So I want to just leave that one there but say as I did in response to a previous question that as Minister—and I'm sure the officials will feel the same—we must continue to make sure this is fit for purpose and if we find that there seem to be regular occurrences of a certain offence then we might start shaping some time frame or the ability to be able to prosecute or to be able to revoke a licence in this particular case to make sure that that particular framework is fit for purpose. But at the moment right now it is just simply as the Supplementary Order Paper states with respect to the time frame around it.CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is that the Minister's amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 349 be agreed to. Amendments agreed to.Parts 1 and 2 Schedules 1 and 2 and clauses 1 to 3 as amended agreed to.Bill to be reported with amendment."