Dunne PeterHon PETER DUNNE (Minister of Internal Affairs): I will take just a chance to reply to a number of the points that have been made. I go back to Mr Henare's comment. I think he made a very valid point about post-event contact and relationships. At one level it is easy to say Well after every significant event the Fire Service conducts an operational review of what happened." but I think the member is talking more about a community and almost a spiritual relationship in terms of working with the people who are adversely affected and who are seeking to both gain recovery but also restore their confidence and their esprit de corps. That is really I think a critical function. It is certainly something that the new organisation will be focusing its attention on because this is a very strongly community-based and community-oriented organisation now and I think that the member does make some very good points in respect of that.In regard to the issue that the Government Administration Committee chair raised about the need for an independent investigation authority because the nature of the disciplinary powers are shifting from a pretty prescriptive arrangement in the current Act to the arrangements contained in this bill I have asked the board of Fire and Emergency New Zealand—technically the current commission—to look at how it is going to give effect to those and within that particularly the capacity to look at situations that could come under some form of independent investigation. So there is nothing specific to report at this stage other than that it is something we are cognisant of and I have asked the board to take it into account as it plans the nature of the procedures that it will apply after 1 July.With regard to the issue of inspectors if members look at clause 128—particularly clause 128(1)—it sets out a range of people who might be eligible for appointment as an inspector. The point here is to try to ensure that we get a range of adequately trained and qualified people who can exercise the power of being an inspector. I certainly do not want to see a situation where we are reliant solely on people put up by the insurance industry for example. There needs to be some autonomy and some independence there and what we are seeking to do in the provisions of the bill is create that framework. But again given that come 1 July when the new entity takes effect there is quite a process of transition to be worked through; a number of these will be details that will be finalised in the working environment post 1 July given the overall flavour of the bill.I said at the commencement of the Committee stage the other night that the important thing to remember about this legislation is that it is essentially permissive. It is moving away from an old prescriptive environment where we dotted every "i" and crossed every "t" and we were hidebound by our inflexibility thereafter. So this is a more fluid arrangement quite deliberately so. It does place a lot of responsibility on the part of the board and the senior management of the service when it is up and running. There will be challenges for them to ensure that the flavour or if you like—from that wonderful Australian film—the vibe is given effect to as proceedings follow. So I can give members those assurances this evening."