Jackson WillieHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour): It's me!CHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono): Yes the Hon Willie Jackson it is you at 11.25!Hon WILLIE JACKSON: I didn't quite catch that but I stand to support Ginny Andersen's amendment: section 103 amended in terms of the personal grievances in section 103 following 103(1). As I said earlier access to the personal grievance provisions is a basic human right that has sadly in our view been ignored. But here's the point that we keep reiterating: vulnerable workers need this more than anyone. I spoke earlier about women workers—Hon Member: The other kinds of women workers.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Well there's lots of workers and I talked about the different strategies—I know the Government's been enjoying this. We rolled out a number of strategies when I was employment Minister in terms of women Pasifika and Māori. We were very considerate—when the former Minister Robertson was leading us we always had considerations for the Treaty. So I ask tonight as a new point—because again we know that the Treaty is a very integral part of what Governments do and has been at the forefront of a lot of debates. [Interruption] Mr Chair I can't help it if someone down there is offended by the Treaty. I'm bringing another aspect—Dan Bidois: Point of order Mr Chair. I'm just referring to Speaker's ruling 124/6 about relevance being determined at committee stage: if it is a particularly broad-ranging bill then a broad-ranging committee stage can be considered. But this is quite a narrow bill and the member is talking about Treaty stuff and there's no thing in the bill.CHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono): Yes I definitely take the member's point and acknowledge the Minister who had an answer—I was expecting a question about the answer or a contribution about the answer and the Hon Willie Jackson has strayed unfortunately. I will let him continue his contribution but he needs to focus on clause 6.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Thank you Mr Chair. I'm really disappointed to hear you say that. I would have thought that you may have been supportive of what—CHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono): Oh I was totally supportive but I would be more supportive if you at least mentioned clause 6.Hon WILLIE JACKSON: —I was trying to say there because—well we're talking about it but as you well know Mr Chair the Treaty is integral in just about every part of what we do and we have had to attach it to most parts of legislation. So I'm surprised that it's been ruled out here because we're talking about women workers—in an earlier amendment we were talking about women workers we're talking about Pacific workers we're talking about the disabled and we're talking about Māori workers.Now for Māori workers—and that's why I'm saying this is relevant Mr Chair if you could think about this for a second. This is relevant and just because the other side and Mr Bidois over there—you know I mean he's not understanding the relevance here for workers who want to bring their disputes through the personal grievance area but also bring a Treaty perspective to the table. So we're talking about—Hon Members: Relevance?Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Oh absolutely. I was not a former union lawyer or academic; I was a freezing worker as you well know. That's a fact. I come from the shop floor. So I'm not like my flash colleagues over here but I've been very lucky to be part of this team. And from the shop floor when personal grievances came in it was an area that gave people an opportunity. That's why—here's the point—in a trial period workers need the opportunity to access this right a basic human right that all workers should have access to. And Māori workers—as I said I want you to think about this Mr Chair—should have an opportunity to put forward arguments with regard to the Treaty partnership as an employer engaged in the partnership—Hon Members: Ha ha!Hon WILLIE JACKSON: You can laugh about this but New Zealand On Air made it very clear that there had to be a partnership. Just ask Winston Peters; he talks about it all the time. So that's why I'm bringing this to the table. Has the Minister thought about the implications in terms of the partnership with Māori and the Treaty implications here? This is all connected and personal grievances and the Treaty and the relationship are connected. Has the Minister thought about her response to the Treaty implications?CHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono): I call Grant McCallum. Let's hope you read this out right.