Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill — First Readings 
Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume 
Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill — First Readings 
[Sitting date: 16 February 2012. Volume:677;Page:535. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill 
Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill 
First Readings 
Hon Dr PITA SHARPLES (Minister of Maori Affairs) 
 on behalf of the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations: I ask the leave of the House to extend my time to 15 minutes. I actually have cognate bills here with two iwi involved. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Well the honourable Minister will know that the House is the master of its own destiny. The Minister seeks leave. Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none. The honourable Minister has 15 minutes. Pita the bell will go with 5 minutes remaining so that you know. 
Hon Dr PITA SHARPLES 
: Tena koe. I move  
That the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill be now read a first time.  
At the appropriate time I intend to move that the bills be referred to the Maori Affairs Committee for consideration. Na reira ki nga iwi koutou kua hara mai nei ki tenei Whare Paremata i tenei po nau mai hara mai ra. Hara mai ra koutou. Kua roa rawa koutou e kawe i tenei kaupapa a engari i tenei po he timatanga pea o te whakamutunga. Na reira hara mai hara mai ra. Hoki atu nga mahara ki a ratou kare i konei i tenei wa. Ratou i timata ai i tenei hikoi e kawe nei i tenei kaupapa kua ngaro atu me nga mate o te ra. Na reira ratou ki a ratou okioki pai. Engari ko koutou nei kua tae mai ki te tautoko i tenei ahuatanga ara te kaupapa e whakahuihuitia tatou nau mai whakapiri mai koutou.  
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So to you the tribes who have arrived here at this Parliament House tonight welcome welcome here. Welcome indeed to you collectively. You have carried this matter for a very long time but tonight is maybe the beginning of the end. Welcome welcome here. The thoughts go back to those who are no longer here at this point in time. They started this journey and carried this matter and have passed away since with the deaths of the day. So allow them to be there among their own rest well. But to you who have arrived here to support this situation and the reason why we have assembled here welcome draw closer 
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First I would like to extend a warm welcome to the representatives of Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino who have joined us today for this highly significant occasion. This is an important day for Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino where we remember and acknowledge their historical Treaty grievances but also look forward and celebrate with optimism their future and the opportunities that will follow this settlement. The first reading of these two bills today is a step towards the completion of a journey that has taken many years for both iwi. 
Ngai Tamanuhiri is an iwi based in the Gisborne region and was represented in negotiations by the Ngai Tamanuhiri Whanui Trust. The whakatauaki “Mai i Paritu ki Kopututea.” describes the area in which Ngai Tamanuhiri hold mana whenua. Ngai Tamanuhiri has five principle hapu: Ngati Rangiwaho Ngati Rangiwaho Matua Ngai Tawehi Ngati Kahutia and Ngati Rangitauwhiwhia. Nolan Raihania to tatou kaumatua i tenei po provided the whakatauaki for the deed of settlement and I would now like to quote it as it signifies the unity and strength of Ngai Tamanuhiri as an iwi: “Ko te mana o te tangata kei ona uri.”—tena koe kai raro. 
Ngati Makino is an iwi from the Bay of Plenty region and was represented in Treaty settlement negotiations by the Ngati Makino Heritage Trust. Ngati Makino is also a member of the Te Arawa confederation of tribes. Ngati Makino hails from the area between the coast and the lakes Rotoehu Rotoiti and Rotoma. It should also be noted that Ngati Makino have close whakapapa connections to Waitaha as they descend from Waitaha-a-Hei. Ngati Makino historically operated as an independent entity but because of their close whakapapa connections were able to band together with other iwi when confronted by external threats or for common interests. 
The grievances and Treaty settlement negotiations of Ngai Tamanuhiri. Twenty years ago in 1992 Ngai Tamanuhiri first began their journey. Eric John Tupai Ruru Tutekawa Wyllie and Peter Gordon lodged a claim with the Waitangi Tribunal on behalf of Te Aitanga-a-Mahaki Ngai Tamanuhiri and Rongowhakaata referred to as Wai 283. I wish to acknowledge those who began this journey but are no longer with us. Moe mai ra e nga rangatira moe mai ra. In the Ngai Tamanuhiri settlement the Crown acknowledges a number of serious Treaty breaches. In 1865 Crown forces laid siege to the defensive pa at Waerenga-a-hika where many Turanga Maori were killed and a number of Turanga Maori were imprisoned and transported to the Chatham Islands without trial or conviction. In 1868 Ngai Tamanuhiri were pressured to cede all their land to the Crown. This cession was made under duress as the Crown had threatened to remove all its protection unless the entire district was ceded. The Crown eventually returned land to Ngai Tamanuhiri but made arrangements that led to its ownership being held by individuals rather than the tribal collective making it more susceptible to alienation and fragmentation. These and other breaches have left Ngai Tamanuhiri without sufficient land to meet their present and future needs. 
I want to now highlight the Crown apology contained in the deed of settlement and subsequently this Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill. The apology is significant as it takes a step towards healing the hurt caused by the Treaty breaches. Negotiations between Ngai Tamanuhiri and the Crown took place from 2007 through to 2011. I want to acknowledge the hard work of the trustees and the negotiators in getting Ngai Tamanuhiri to where we are today. Na reira tena koutou. In 2008 Ngai Tamanuhiri signed an agreement in principle as part of the Turanga collective. Following the collective separating in 2009 Ngai Tamanuhiri entered into negotiations with the Crown for their deed of settlement and initialled that deed in December 2010. 
In a dawn ceremony on 5 March 2011 at Muriwai Beach Ngai Tamanuhiri and the Crown signed the first of the documents that make up the deed of settlement. The ceremony reflected the significance of Te Kuri a Paoa also known as Young Nicks Head to Ngai Tamanuhiri. The deed of settlement is a full and final settlement for all the historical Treaty claims of Ngai Tamanuhiri. 
Ngati Makino’s grievances and Treaty settlement negotiations. According to Ngati Makino Kawana Te Kirikau is the person who first initiated the Ngati Makino claim in 1992. Named claimants include Te Ariki Morehu Neville Nepia Peretini Nuku Tawa and Awhi Awhimate. In 1995 the claims of Ngati Makino were presented at the Waitangi Tribunal inquiry into the Eastern Bay of Plenty district. This has been a long journey for Ngati Makino and I would like again to acknowledge those who began this journey but are no longer with us here today. Na reira ratou ki a ratou moe mai. 
When the war broke out in the Waikato region iwi within the Bay of Plenty felt the tension. The people of Ngati Makino were split between supporting the Crown taking a stance of armed neutrality or supporting the Kingitanga. Although some of their land was confiscated by the Crown in retaliation for certain murders committed in the Bay of Plenty Ngati Makino played no part in those killings. Through the early 1900s the Crown used a number of pieces of legislation to alienate and acquire virtually all of Ngati Makino’s land. This settlement with Ngati Makino is a significant step in working to put right the losses Ngati Makino suffered. 
Ngati Makino has had a long journey though negotiations with the Crown. Terms of negotiation were reached in 1998. However with the change of Government negotiations were suspended. The Waitangi Tribunal found in 2004 and again in 2005 that Ngati Makino had suffered prejudice as a result of the Crown’s delay in negotiating with them. In 2008 the Crown reconfirmed the mandate of the Ngati Makino Heritage Trust. In April 2008 together with Waitaha joint terms of negotiation were entered into and an agreement in principle was reached in November 2008. Then in December 2008 after a period of intense negotiations Ngati Makino and the Crown initialled a deed of settlement. An overwhelming majority of Ngati Makino members who voted in the ratification process expressed support for the deed of settlement and the proposed post-settlement governance arrangements. On 2 April 2011 at Otamarakau Ngati Makino and the Crown signed a deed of settlement. 
I turn to the key features of the legislation. I want now to highlight the key features of the deeds of settlement and the redress terms that will be transferred by these bills. Perhaps the most significant item of redress for Ngai Tamanuhiri is the return of Te Kuri a Paoa. Te Kuri a Paoa is a significant landmark for the people of Ngai Tamanuhiri. Te Kuri a Paoa will be vested as a national historic reserve under the Reserves Act 1977. I am confident this vesting will ensure that public interest is provided for while recognising the special relationship Ngai Tamanuhiri has with Te Kuri a Paoa. 
The settlement provides for the establishment of a central leadership group and a local leadership body to provide a forum for Ngai Tamanuhiri along with other Turanga-nui-a-Kiwa iwi to engage with central government departments and ensure that their implementing of the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi is a coordinated effort with the Turanga-nui-a-Kiwi region. The local leadership body will work with the local council to contribute to the sustainable management of the resources within that region. These redress items provide Ngai Tamanuhiri with a valuable opportunity to engage with central and local government on a range of issues. 
Ngai Tamanuhiri will receive a quantum total of $11.07 million which takes into account the nature of the historical Treaty breaches and the size of the iwi. This is to be provided in three parts: an on-account payment which was made after the signing of the deed of settlement; transfer of Ngai Tamanuhiri interest in Wharerata Forest; and a financial sum. Ngai Tamanuhiri will also receive a number of commercial properties that may assist Ngai Tamanuhiri develop its commercial footing and contribute to the long-term financial success of Ngai Tamanuhiri. 
I come now to the key redress items contained in Ngati Makino’s settlement. The area extending from Lake Rotoehu out to sea is extremely significant to Ngati Makino as those lands provided them with their food and their medicine. In recognition of these associations the settlement includes statutory acknowledgments over parts of Lake Rotoma and Lake Rotoiti. Part of Lake Rotoma Scenic Reserve will be subject to a whenua rahui which will allow for the protection of the reserve. A number of culturally significant properties are also being returned to Ngati Makino. These include the Rakau o Kauwae Hapa site Nga Porotai-o-Waitaha-a-Hei Lake Rotoehu Scenic Reserve and the balance of the Matawhaura site. Another significant item of redress included in the settlement is a marae development fund. This fund will assist Ngati Makino to restore and revitalise six marae in the rohe. Ngati Makino will receive a financial quantum of $6.7 million made up of a financial payment and licensed land being transferred to the iwi. It takes into account the extent of Ngati Makino’s losses and the size of the iwi. Ngati Makino will also receive a financial settlement of $3.1 million. 
I am confident that both bills will settle the historical Treaty claims of Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino in a fair and final manner. Although it is not possible to provide full restitution to Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino for their losses the settlement redress provided for in these bills seeks to recognise the seriousness of their grievances and to build a positive foundation for future generations. I consider that the bills should therefore proceed without delay to the Maori Affairs Committee. I commend these bills to the House. Tena koe. 
Hon PAREKURA HOROMIA (Labour—Ikaroa-Rawhiti) 
:  
Tena koe. Ka nui aku mihi ki a koe te Kaiwhakahaere o te Whare. E mihi kau ana ki to tatau Minita Maori me ratau nga kanohi Maori i tera taha. Na te pai e kite atu wetahi o nga uri o nga iwi e tae ake ki konei. No reira ki a koutou nga mea pakeke o Makino e mihi kau ana. Nau mai hara mai. Hara mai ki te wahi nei taupatupatu korero mo nga ahua katoa i roto i a koutou me era hoki o konei te kaha rawa te tae mai. E te Papa e Noel i a koe hoki e Temple koutou katoa nga mea pakeke e mihi kau ana. Nau mai ra hara mai hara mai ki te wahi nei. E pai ana ki te kite atu i te kaha rawa i roto i a koutou ahakoa te roaroa o te tae ake ki konei kua tae mai koutou.  
Te nui o nga tangihanga i te kainga ko Uncle Noel tera ka hinga ki raro. Mihi atu ki a ratau o hoa o te Rua Tekau Ma Waru ki a Uncle Turi raua ko te Papa matua Henare. Ko koe teneki nei e tu kaha ana e mau poutokomanawa mo tatau katoa no reira mihi kau ana. Tena tatau. E rongo atu au e tautokotia atu nga korero o to tatau Minita a Pita. Ka mihi atu hoki ki te tangata ra a Christopher Finlayson mo tona kaha tera Minita. He roaroa atu te wa kia tae ake ai ki konei kia oti pai ai tenei na te mea i timata atu i roto i a ratau te mohiotanga a na te mamae ki wenei kereme ka rere atu te nuinga o nga mea pakeke. Kare e ora ratau hei kite te otinga. No reira tera ano te mea i roto i a tatau e tautokotia atu to tatau Ropu Reipa a te oti pai ai tenei na te mea e pirangi atu tatau kia tere te haere. Kare au mo te noho nohinohi e kore e tae atu i te otinga o tenei tau. No reira e mihi atu ki a ratau ki a tatau katoa. 
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Thank you. I appreciate you greatly Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson and acknowledge our Minister of Maori Affairs and Maori members on that side of the House. It is so nice to see relatives of the tribes here. So to you the elderly ones of Ngati Makino I acknowledge you. Welcome welcome and welcome to this place. Welcome to this place where all manner of things among you that took a lot of effort to get here are debated including the ones from here. Welcome to you Uncle Noel Uncle Temple and all of you the elderly ones I salute you. Welcome welcome and welcome to this place. It is pleasing to see the efforts made by you and despite the length of time involved to get here you have made it. 
There have been many funerals at home. Uncle Noel’s was one. I pay a tribute to your friends of the 28th Maori Battalion to Uncle Turi and Uncle Henare. You have stood strongly as the pillar for all of us so I acknowledge you. Congratulations to us. I note that the statements of our Minister the Hon Dr Pita Sharples were endorsed. I endorse the Hon Christopher Finlayson’s efforts as well. It has taken a long time for the legislation to arrive here and be completed. Initially the understanding came from within the tribes but because of the hurt created through these claims many of the elder ones passed away and will not see it completed. So the feeling among us our Labour Party is that we endorse the settlement of this legislation and want it done as swiftly as possible. I do not want to sit around and not have this matter settled this year. So I acknowledge them and all of us. 
]  
I want to reiterate and support what Minister Sharples has said and acknowledge the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations. The Labour Party will certainly be supporting these bills—the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill—moving swiftly I hope through to a positive end.  
In relation to the two bills we are talking about now the Minister of Maori Affairs has covered most of the important points. I do want to mention Te Ariki Morehu Te Hirata Sykes Awhimate Awhimate and many others—and when you name people you leave people out—for the effort that has been put in. They started negotiations with Waitaha at a single table then moved on to progress their own interests as negotiators in their own right.  
I suppose one of the big issues is the balance of the Rotoehu Forest and accumulated rentals that have been returned to them and it needs to be recognised alongside all of the other matters that are in there that were named by the Minister. The scenic reserves redress is of significant importance to Ngati Makino. It is innovative. It is redress that was negotiated to give Ngati Makino certain decision-making rights in consultation with the Department of Conservation over scenic reserves in the area. I am not too sure who the Minister of Conservation is any more but I am certain Minister Sharples and Minister Finlayson shudder in fear now that the Maori advisers that they had there have lost their jobs. So I hope that it is reconsidered in these settlements because they will need a whole lot of assistance with that.  
The bill sets out the cultural redress to Ngati Makino including the Crown’s acknowledgment of the cultural significance of certain statutory areas for them and the issuing of protocols by appropriate responsible Ministers and that is certainly something to be supported. They have been through a very very hard time. The Moutoroi Pa site is vested in fee simple in the trustees and that comes out in Subpart 8 in Part 2. The commercial redress is something that is there and I hope between now and the end that some of that may be stretched with the school at Otamarakau which is to be transferred to the trustees.  
The bill also makes provision in relation to deferred selection properties and licensed and unlicensed Crown forest lands. It is well known that Ngati Makino have had their tensions and they certainly would like to be recognised in the sense of any further deals relevant to forestry. I would plead with the Minister to ensure that that effort is strong in relation to supporting them in finalising their settlement and I want to wish them well.  
Ngai Tamanuhiri is from the great land of Tai Rawhiti and there are people who have emblazoned this start in the Tai Rawhiti region in the sense of moving to settlement which is certainly a first for the region and they need to be commended for that. Along with a whole lot of other people I do want to mention Dawn Pomana Mel Tarsau Hope Tupara young Reuben Wiki who passed on Heather Smith Warren Pohatu and a range of others and the pakeke like Uncle Noel and Uncle Temple and those ones. 
The agreement in principle was signed a long time ago by us and that is why we tend to get a bit agitated at the length of time Minister and hopefully we can speed these up. The transfer of Te Kuri a Paoa historic reserve / Young Nicks Head is very significant to them and I was privileged to be there with them when we flew up in the helicopter. I was going to say I walked but I know that some of them up the top there know that I went up in the helicopter. But it was a great day and it signalled the start of trying to mend those issues that have been there for a long period of time. The transfer of part of Wharerata Forest and accumulated rentals is important and hopefully the interest on those rentals is paid and not forgotten. That is something that would really assist those people.  
The bill provides for the establishment of a central leadership group and I think this is the very innovative thing about Ngai Tamanuhiri. I think it is a lesson for going forward in the sense of how other iwi could consider matters. I know that Ngati Parawera Ruanui has done the same thing. The settlement prepares for the establishment of a central leadership group with representatives from Ngai Tamanuhiri and the other iwi to engage with central government. I hope that those departments and Te Puni Kokiri and those ones are not washed away in this big speech next week and that they are around to aid and abet this great part of the settlement Minister.  
The other interesting fact is that the bill also provides for the establishment of a local leadership group with members appointed by Ngai Tamanuhiri and other Turanga group iwi and the Gisborne District Council to enhance Turanga iwi engagement with the local council. That is very important and I hope Ngai Tamanuhiri puts at the top of the list the exorbitant rates on Maori land and that that is there. It is good and it would be encouraging to feel that— 
Hon Tau Henare 
: What did you do?  
Hon PAREKURA HOROMIA 
: Tau Henare’s relations are there; he would agree with me on that. But it would be great. What we did do is we made sure that we started it and we are here encouraging the Government to finalise it. But I think those two aspects are very very important. It is how we build them Minister and make them real that is important.  
Of course the paepae that has been organised on the west coast in Taranaki has not been working very well. Those ministries have not played ball and this is high-level stuff. You know there is a lot of need for those Government agencies to ensure that Ngai Tamanuhiri get what is certainly theirs.  
We support this bill and we certainly look forward to working in harmony and making sure that we get there. Ngai Tamanuhiri certainly have been a trailblazer in the Tai Rawhiti in getting off the ranks—the first cab off the rank—to try to get things done and they need to be commended for it. No reira tena koutou kua rewa taku tu e mihi kau ana ki a koutou katoa me tatou ano hoki nei nga kanohi Maori tena koutou. 
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So greetings to you collectively. My time has expired and I do acknowledge you all as well the Maori members greetings 
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Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations) 
: 
 Can I begin by thanking all members of the House for their help in progressing this legislation. I particularly acknowledge the advice and the guidance that I received from the previous speaker Mr Horomia and also Mr Jones. It is always great to be out on the road signing these deeds of settlement with Mr Horomia. They are occasions when you put aside party politics because we are all interested in doing the right thing for iwi.  
I also want to welcome those members of the iwi who have made their journey to Parliament for this very happy occasion. Dr Sharples has gone through the details of the bills the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill and the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill in some considerable detail and I do not intend to repeat that material in my speech. But I do want to say that engagement in settlement negotiations in my experience of a little over 3 years requires a tremendous amount of commitment and courage for those involved. It involves difficult trade-offs both professionally and personally. Just the other day I heard of one negotiator for an iwi who had spent his redundancy working for his iwi to get to the stage where a deed of settlement could be signed. So with that in mind I acknowledge the negotiation teams of both iwi those who have made these Treaty settlements possible because of their dedication their hard work and the leadership of their governance entities. I pay tribute to the leadership the pragmatism and the hard work of both negotiation teams. It is through the diligent labour of these people that we are able to have this occasion here tonight. 
It would be inappropriate to single out individuals but I have to single out that wonderful New Zealander Nolan Raihania of the C Company of Maori Battalion. As he says he is ubiquitous. He will be sitting next to Api Mahuika in about an hour for the second reading of the Ngati Porou Claims Settlement Bill. It is great to see you in the Chamber tonight and it is great to place on record your tremendous contribution both to your iwi and to New Zealand throughout the course of your lifetime. 
In reaching this milestone it is important to acknowledge that full compensation to Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino for their losses is simply not possible. Through entering deeds of settlement with the Crown both iwi have offered to forgo full compensation in order to contribute to the future development of New Zealand and I want to thank them for that act of generosity. The introduction of these bills will begin the last stage of the settlement process for both iwi. Both iwi have as Mr Horomia said waited a very very long time for this day and they can be very proud of what they have achieved. Through this legislation a platform has been set for a new relationship between Ngai Tamanuhiri Ngati Makino and the Crown—a relationship that I certainly hope will be based for the future on mutual trust cooperation and a respect for the Treaty. 
This contribution is necessarily short; I have offered to give Dr Sharples the chance to set out the full detail. He is a valued colleague and friend and I am working closely with him now in the Maori Affairs portfolio and I will have my longer speech at the third reading stage. But I do emphasise that this is a bipartisan exercise. I do emphasise that it is something all New Zealanders should be very proud of. The Crown cannot brush under the carpet longstanding and legitimate grievances of the iwi of this country and it is going to seek to respond appropriately to well-founded claims in a manner designed to achieve a better New Zealand for all of us.  
So thank you once again to those who have contributed so much to this great day. Thank you for coming to Wellington. I very much look forward to as Mr Horomia said the harmonious conduct of these bills in the Maori Affairs Committee. With the great Tau Henare as chair it could only be harmonious and I am sure that in double-quick time the bills will be back to the House for the remaining stages. 
LOUISA WALL (Labour—Manurewa) 
: 
 Tena koe Mr. Assistant Speaker Robertson. E nga mana e nga reo rau rangatira ma tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa. Tena koutou nga whanau o Ngai Tamanuhiri o Ngati Makino.  
[ 
Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson. To the authorities voices and many leaders greetings to you greetings to you and greetings to you all. Greetings to you the families of Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino 
.]  
This is my privilege. This is the first opportunity I have had to address the House as the member of Parliament for Manurewa so I want to take the opportunity to thank the people of Manurewa for electing me as their representative. In saying that I want to acknowledge how honoured I am to sit on the Maori Affairs Committee. I want to congratulate you Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson on your new role as president of Parliamentarians for Global Action as well as on your Assistant Speaker role. I want to acknowledge the Hon Chris Finlayson as the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations and the Hon Pita Sharples as the Minister of Maori Affairs. I want to acknowledge the work of Tau Henare as the chair of the Maori Affairs Committee with the Hon Parekura Horomia as his deputy. I want to acknowledge the Hon Nanaia Mahuta as a previous member of the Maori Affairs Committee and I also want to acknowledge my colleague Rino Tirikatene and congratulate him on his election as the MP for Te Tai Tonga. I want to acknowledge Brendan Horan here in the House as a New Zealand First member and a member of the Maori Affairs Committee and also Louise Upston who is a member of the Maori Affairs Committee.  
Previous speakers have outlined the deed of settlement that Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino are to receive and actually what I want to say is that the process that we are engaged in now is actually a rubber-stamp of the process that the iwi have been through. It is not for us to add anything to what they have negotiated with the Crown but what I do want to say is that regardless of the differing views on the settlement process which we must acknowledge is fundamentally about the property rights of Maori it is these Treaty settlement bills coming before this House that formalise the process and offer redress for breaches of the Treaty of Waitangi which is the founding document of our country and which has been agreed to by iwi and hapu after a process of historical reconciliation and engagement with the Crown.  
The Treaty settlement process in itself and this resulting legislation that we are debating tonight in the first reading is one of the few means by which Maori are given legal recognition as New Zealand’s indigenous people as the first sovereign and the party to a contract Te Tiriti o Waitangi which gave rise to the establishment of the expression of our democracy in this House that we are in tonight. This Treaty settlement context is also the process that confirms the unique status that Maori have in Aotearoa New Zealand as New Zealand’s first or original peoples. And I want to make this point: the Treaty settlement process highlights that although immigrant groups have heritage identities to other countries other cultures and other languages iwi and hapu have their identities embedded in their awa their moana their maunga their tikanga their reo and their kawa which can come only from here in Aotearoa New Zealand. And it is this process that recognises the established right of Maori as New Zealand’s indigenous peoples which was strengthened by the Treaty of Waitangi. But what I want to say is that we have a status regardless of the Treaty. That status needs to be reinforced in the legislation and that is something that I am committed to.  
So for me these bills are part of the path of endorsing the status of Maori as indigenous people and of endorsing our rights that come from that status. So endorsing Maori rights to property is one of the important steps in recognising and celebrating Maori status as New Zealand’s indigenous peoples and these Treaty settlements for Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino—and others who will be in the Whare later tonight—are essentially about recognition of them in their own right and about compensating them for the property rights that they either lost or had taken from them.  
I want to draw the distinction between land which actually has some legal parameters to it and other property that has been subsequently commodified. And I particularly want to talk about water. There is no legal status for ownership of water and that is why for me the proposed removal of section 9 of the State-Owned Enterprises Act across any portion of our State asset where Maori interests are yet to be determined in itself will be a new Treaty breach.  
My contribution tonight is really about acknowledging the road that iwi have gone down to get here and for me it has been like climbing Mount Everest. The tenacity and the fights of our whanau to get to a deed of settlement have been long fought and I think in the future our role is to ensure that those generations that come after us do not have to climb high mountains. The path should be pretty straight and it should be easy for the next generation of Ngati Makino and Ngai Tamanuhiri to be able to exercise their right as tangata whenua—as mana whenua of this country.  
I want to thank Parekura for the opportunity to speak. I have not been involved in Treaty settlements yet. I am going to be on the road with Tau in the future— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Order! The member must use the member’s full name. 
LOUISA WALL 
: The Hon Tau Henare—but I want to acknowledge the journey that the iwi have made to be here tonight. I want to honour this deed of settlement that they have negotiated with the Crown. I am happy to be part of a process in the future that will ensure that they can sign this deed of settlement and get on with exercising their right of rangatiratanga over their lands. Kia ora. 
DAVID CLENDON (Green) 
:  
Tena koe Mr. Assistant Speaker Robertson. Kei te mihi nui ki a koutou. Kei te mihi nui ki nga rangatira nga kuia o Ngati Makino o Ngai Tamanuhiri. Haere mai ki tenei Whare.  
[ 
Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson. I extend a huge greeting to all as well as leaders and the elderly womenfolk of Ngati Makino and Ngai Tamanuhiri. Welcome to this House 
.]  
Before speaking on the substance of these bills the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill I would like to acknowledge the process that we are using tonight. We are hearing these bills in cognate which is not rare but nor is it a common occurrence. I think it is important to acknowledge that this is a practical measure agreed to by all parties in the House. The purpose of reading these bills together is to advance their progress through the House as swiftly as can be done.  
It is important that we do this quickly. The bills are responding to claims that are some two decades old and of course refer to events of a century and a half or more ago. And I think it is important to note that hearing these bills in one reading in no way diminishes the importance of each as a stand-alone bill; to the contrary it is a reflection of the importance that this House puts on getting these matters resolved to the satisfaction of those who are most directly affected by them.  
We the Green Party will be supporting these bills through the House as is our wont with settlement bills. We do so as ever while acknowledging also the imperfections of these bills. They can never be all that we would wish them to be nor inevitably can they—and they do not—compensate in total for all that has been lost over many generations. They cannot restore the material wealth the land and the well-being that were lost over many generations and they certainly cannot compensate in a full and complete way for the personal suffering and loss that have been the hallmark of so many Maori people since the signing of the Treaty in fact.  
I think that reflects on a genuine generosity of spirit of Maori—and specifically of these iwi and hapu represented here tonight—that they are willing to accept less than could fairly be claimed in order to move on to re-establish a more positive relationship between the Crown and Maori and critically to provide an economic base so that iwi and hapu can dictate their own future and make their own way in the world as they did prior to these unfortunate events which took away from them in many cases the ability to make their own way economically socially culturally and in every other way. 
 I would like particularly to reflect on the clauses in the two bills that are the Crown’s acknowledgments and the Crown’s apologies to the affected iwi and hapu: clause 6 in the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill and clauses 7 and 8 of the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill. I think often that casual observers of these processes perhaps underestimate the value of the Crown’s apologies and acknowledgments of wrongdoing over many years. That is not to underestimate the more practical tangible compensation that is offered but it is important that people recognise that having the mana restored as it ought to be the Crown recognising its own shortcomings and wrongdoing does resonate as an incredibly significant and important part of these bills. It reflects on and give us a place to begin rebuilding as I said the 172-year-old relationship.  
Those who denigrate or those who are simply ignorant of some of the history of this country and the history that underlies these settlement bills would do well I think to inform themselves. One of the inherent values of these bills is that they give us some extraordinary reference points. They record the history of these events in a way that enables people to read and to better understand why we are moving through these. Having celebrated Waitangi Day just a week or two ago inevitably that time of year brings out those who would suggest that Maori should get over it or those who in a more benign way even might suggest that we leave the past in the past. I think they need to read that history and recognise that it is in some cases only two or three generations ago—and in fact even existing generations continue to suffer from wrongdoings—and it is an important part of our history.  
So I do think as I say that the parts of these bills are worth reading and recording and I would like to quote briefly from one or two of them. For example in clause 6 of the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill the Crown acknowledges “that the people of Ngati Makino have long sought redress for their grievances and that the Crown’s withdrawal from earlier negotiations … has had a detrimental effect on Ngati Makino.” There is acknowledgment that Ngati Makino suffered loss of life at the hands of Crown forces and that “confiscation of land in the eastern Bay of Plenty … affected all Ngati Makino even those who had not been in conflict with the Crown;” at this time. It refers to its effects as “unjust indiscriminate and a breach of the Treaty of Waitangi and its principles.” in the confiscation of that land. It is acknowledged that “Ngati Makino’s physical cultural and spiritual wellbeing was compromised by the loss of their land and that this suffering and hardship has continued to the present day;”.  
These are strong words. This is a very powerful and open acknowledgment of wrong that was done and it is appropriate that these words are written and spoken. I do as I say encourage people to familiarise themselves not only with these bills but with the increasing number of bills and indeed Acts where the Crown’s position the Crown’s liability and its admission of liability are finally being recorded. Similarly in the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill the Crown’s apology refers to the Crown’s “many failures to respect Ngai Tamanuhiri rangatiratanga and to protect Ngai Tamanuhiri from being left virtually landless and economically marginalised.”  
Many Maori and those who understand better are constantly irritated and offended by claims that Maori somehow are unable to see to their own economic and social well-being. Clearly much of the disadvantage suffered by Maori in the present day is a direct result a direct outcome of the marginalisation of the taking away of the economic base that Maori depended on and indeed did very well on. We know the history even of the 1860s when the New Zealand economy was a Maori economy and a very successful economy at that. It is the events that are recorded in these bills that took away that base and it is a pleasure to be part of the process—albeit a very very minor part—of restoration of that economic base as well as the mana that is owed.  
There is much that can be said and will indeed be said at later readings about this. I would simply finally like to pass on the greetings and good wishes in particular to Ngai Tamanuhiri of my colleague and fellow MP Catherine Delahunty who was engaged quite closely—at the front line one might say—in the fights over a number of years to restore Te Kuri o Paoa to its rightful owner to restore access and the mana of that significant place significant both to Maori and to Pakeha: Young Nicks Head Te Kuri o Paoa. She sends her regards and her direct engagement will be referred to in a later speech. So finally as I began I commend these bills. We will offer our support for them and look forward to their swift resolution. Kia ora. 
TE URUROA FLAVELL (Maori Party—Waiariki) 
: 
 Tena koe Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson 
 
 kia ora tatau e te Whare. Hai wawahi i te ahuatanga o taku korero me mihi ra ki a koutou kei runga ake nei. Tena koutou i haramai i tawhiti. Ko etahi o koutou i tae mai i te ata nei ki te hui i karangahia mai ai e te Honore Hekia Parata mo te take ko te matauranga. Hoi ano i tenei po he take ano ra. No reira ko taku noa ake he whaiwhai haere i nga mihi a te Minita mo nga take Maori ki tena ki tena o koutou. Kaua ko Ngati Makino i tona kotahi kaua ko Ngai Tamanuhiri i tona kotahi engari me ki koutou kua haramai i te po nei ki te whakarongo ki nga korero a tena koutou tena koutou kia ora tatau katoa. Haramai me nga mate o te wa e korerohia ake nei. Tumatauenga haramai e koro. Haramai ki roto i nga pakitara o te Whare nei ara ano nga korero. Ara ano nga korero mo nga pakanga. No reira ko koe tenei kua tatu mai. Haere mai haere mai huri noa tena koutou tena koutou kia ora tatau katoa.  
E kore au e whakatuarua i nga korero a te Minita. Kua puta ke i a ia nga korero e pa ana ki nga take e pa ana ki a koutou o Ngai Tamanuhiri ka mutu ki a koutou o Ngati Makino. He mataku noku kei ki mai wetahi e ka whakapau te Maori nei i te nuinga o tana korero ki runga i a ia ki a Te Arawa ki a Ngati Makino. Engari tera tera korero. Ko taku noa ake he korero whanui he korero whanui i te mea ara kua rongo koutou i nga korero kua puta i te po nei. E kore au e korero whakapapa. Kare i te tika kia korero a Te Arawa mo nga whakapapa o Ngai Tamanuhiri. Waiho tera ki a koutou. Ko te taha ki a au ki a Te Arawa kei konei taku papa a Te Ariki mana tera e korero.  
Engari ko taku ke ki a tatau i te po nei he korero whanui mo tenei o nga take. Ara ano nga me ki nga oritenga o nga momo pire penei i enei na. Tuatahi i roto i nga pire nei ka tuku whakapaha te Karauna. Ka pai ka pai. Me pera ka tika mo nga tini he whakaporeareatanga tukinotanga ki tena iwi ki tena iwi ki tena hapu ki tena hapu i nga tau e hia ke nei kua hipa. Me tuku whakapaha ka tika. Tuarua he aha te take o nga raruraru o nga kereme e korerohia ake nei? Ko te whenua te take. Ko te whenua te take i murua te whenua na te raupatu tera momo ahuatanga na te ture taihoa ake nei ka hoki mai ki tera. Ko te take tuatoru ki a au ko te kore mohio o te nuinga o te motu ki nga korero ki nga hitori kei roto i nga pire e huna ana. Kaore ano te nuinga o nga korero o tena iwi o tena iwi kia puta ki te motu. Ha ka tu mai te ringa o te Maori ki te ki atu anei taku i raro i te ahuatanga o te Tiriti o Waitangi te aro mai a wetahi. Na te aha? Na te kore mohio. No reira mena he painga o roto i enei momo pire koira ki a au te painga. He tuku i te matauranga nga korero i pa atu ki a Ngati Makino ki a Ngai Tamanuhiri ki nga iwi katoa kua heri mai ai i o ratau take ki mua i te aro o te Whare Paremata.  
Kati me hoki ra ano ki te timatanga mai o nga korero. E ai ki taku e kite nei me timata ki a koutou Ngai Tamanuhiri mo te wa poto. E ai ki taku e kite nei i mua o te tau 1865 i a Ngai Tamanuhiri te mana i runga i te whenua i a ia i tera wa. Na e ai ki taku e kite nei i ahua noho taiapa koutou ki nga pakanga i Te Tai Rawhiti i tera tau. Kare koutou i toro atu te ringa heri atu te patu ranei te taiaha ranei ki etahi atu kao. E noho nei koutou ki o koutou whenua. Na wai ra na wai ra a ka eke nga hoia ki Te Waerenga-a-Hika. E ai ki taku i rongo nei i tukinohia nga wahine tae atu ki nga tamariki. He aha te putanga mai he kore kai he kore whenua. Na kei konei tonu ka kite atu i te ahuatanga o nga oritenga o nga kereme kua tae mai ki roto i te Whare nei.  
Me korero ano te ahuatanga o te tono a wetahi o Ngai Tamanuhiri ki tawahi ki Wharekauri mo nga rua tau. Ki toku mohio kare te noho ki reira i pai he uaua rawa atu. I heria ki reira mo te aha? Mo te kore take noa iho. Mo te kore take noa iho. No reira ko wai ka he i te ahuatanga o te korero a te Karauna me whakapaha ia ka tika. Ka mutu a ko te ekenga o te hoia ki runga i nga whenua. I peratia i Taranaki i peratia i roto o Tauranga Moana i peratia i wahi ke. A ko taua ahua ano ra i runga i a koutou e Ngai Tamanuhiri. Ka mutu ko te whakakorenga o te panga o Ngai Tamanuhiri ki tona whenua tupu. Ko taua ahua ano ra huri noa te motu. He whanako whenua he tahae whenua he muru whenua era ahuatanga katoa. Ka pera ano hoki ki a koutou kai aku rangatira. He ahua whakawehewehe i te whenua tetahi wahanga ki tena tetahi wahanga ki tena.  
Engari ki taku titiro o te Ao Maori me whakakotahi nei te whenua mo te painga o te katoa. Kia kaua e whakawehewehe i te whenua. Na te aha? Kare he paku painga. Ka pera tonu te noho o te tangata. I pera rawa te Koti Whenua Maori i nga tau kua hipa. I pera ano hoki i wahi ke o te motu. Na ko te ture ko te Public Works Act tetahi. Katahi te pire weriweri rawa atu ko tera. Ko tana mahi a taua ahua ano ko te whanako i te whenua. Na ki taku i panui nei i roto i te ahuatanga ki a koutou Ngai Tamanuhiri a i puta te korero mo te Manutuke consolidation scheme. Ehara i te mea kei te tino mohio au ki te ahuatanga o tera take engari ki taku e mohio nei mai i te tau 1958 i tuku i whakaaetia e te Karauna kia tuku i etahi whenua ke o iwi ke ki a koutou me ki mo te ahuatanga o tana whanako i te whenua i te tuatahi. I pera ano hoki ki wahi ke. Na i te putanga o te para o te hamuti ki tua o te moana o Turanga hei whakaparuparu hei tukino i te takutai pera ano hoki ki etahi atu wahi. Ko taua ahua ano. Ka mutu i a Ngai Tamanuhiri etahi wahi tapu a he aha te mahi a te kawanatanga? He whanako i nga wahi tapu nei. No reira e kua eke kua eke ki tenei wa o te hiahia ki te whakatau i nga kereme. No reira haramai i raro i te ahuatanga o tera i korero Ngai Tamanuhiri.  
I te hui o te matauranga i te rangi nei i puta te korero ko te tino kaupapa ko te matauranga. Ana ko tenei take me heri i nga kura katoa o Te Tai Rawhiti kia mohio mai ai a ko nga panga nga uauatanga i pa mai ki a koutou e aku rangatira.  
Ka huri atu ra ki a au ki a Ngati Makino ki te taha ki a au ki a Te Arawa. E te papa Te Ariki haere mai me to tatau tira. Me penei rawa te korero. He korero i puta i a koe i nga tau kua hipa ake. Ko tau korero ki tetahi hui i te kainga e penei ana. E ki e ki ko wai te pokokohua e ki ana ehara a Ngati Makino i te iwi. Taku mohio e tika ana taku korero. E ki e ki ko wai te pokokohua e ki ana ehara a Ngati Makino i te iwi? Ana ko te whakatinanatanga ko te puawaitanga ko te hua o tera korero kei roto i te pire i te po nei. Ahakoa nga korero i te kainga ana kua whakamanahia e te ture i tenei po. Kai taku papa haere mai.  
E kore au e korero whanui nei mo te ahuatanga o tenei take i te mea a ko tatau ano tatau. Engari ko te mea pai a ka hoki ano ra nga maunga nga wahi tapu ki a tatau o te kainga. Ka mutu ka whiwhi i tetahi putea hai awhina ano hoki i nga mea katoa. No reira e aroha atu ana ki te hunga kare i konei i tenei po ki te whakarongo ki nga korero ki te whakatutuki i tenei o nga kaupapa. Ka hoki nga mahara ki nga hui i runga i tera o nga marae o tatau i Otamarakau. Ka mutu i eke atu te Minita ko tau tohutohu ki a ia e te matua ki te ki atu me homai te putea era ahuatanga katoa. Ko te puawaitanga o nga korero i te po nei ana kua eke kua eke tenei pire i te po nei. No reira kua rahi maku mo tenei o nga kaupapa. Ko taku noa ake he whakatakoto i etahi korero hei wananga ma tatau. Me te mihi ki a koutou e kawe nei ki tenei mihinga mokopuna e rua nei ki tenei taumata. Kua eke kua eke kua eke. Tihei mauri ora! Kia ora tatau. 
[ 
Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson and greetings to all of us the House. To begin my speech I must pay tribute to those above in the public gallery. Thank you for coming from so far away. Some of you arrived this morning to the conference on education called by the Hon Hekia Parata. However this evening we have another matter. So I want to simply follow up the acknowledgments by the Minister of Maori Affairs to each and every one of you. Not just to Ngati Makino by itself or Ngai Tamanuhiri separately but rather let us say to you collectively who came here tonight to listen to the speeches—so greetings to you greetings to you and greetings to us all. Welcome with the deaths of the day to be acknowledged shortly. I salute those who lost their lives and served in the armed forces. Welcome old one God of War. Come into this Chamber upon whose walls are the stories. So this is you who have arrived. Welcome to you and everyone throughout the Chamber greetings to you and all of us. 
I will not repeat what the Minister has stated. He has already addressed the issues relating to you of Ngai Tamanuhiri and of Ngati Makino. I fear that some may say that much of this Maori’s address will be on him Te Arawa and Ngati Makino. Anyway that is that talk. I simply want to speak broadly because you have heard the tenor of the speeches expressed tonight. I will not talk genealogy. It is not the done thing for Te Arawa to talk about genealogy relating to Ngai Tamanuhiri. That is for them to relate. In matters relating to me Te Arawa my uncle Te Ariki Morehu is here; that is his domain he speaks for me.  
But this evening I want to speak in broad terms about the issues in the bills. There are many similarities in bills like these. Firstly within these bills is an apology by the Crown. That is good. There must be an apology for the wrongdoing interference and abuses by the Crown against various tribes and subtribes in years past. It is only right that an apology is given. Secondly what is at the heart of these problems and of these claims under scrutiny? The land is the reason. It was confiscated by a form of law; I will come back to that point in a short while. To me the third reason is the lack of knowledge by most of the country of the commentary and history lying hidden in these bills. Most of the stories relating to this tribe and that tribe have yet to be published to the nation. When Maori put their hand up and say “This is mine under the Treaty of Waitangi.” some people do not even consider it. Why? They do not know—that is why. So if there is something positive in these kinds of bills it has to be that in my view: the release of knowledge and stories about Ngati Makino and Ngai Tamanuhiri to all tribes bringing issues before Parliament.  
Enough let me go back again to the speeches at the beginning. According to what I see now let us start with you Ngai Tamanuhiri for a short while. Before 1865 Ngai Tamanuhiri owned their lands at that time. But what I see now is that you sat on the fence somewhat over the East Coast battles that year. You did not lend a helping hand to anyone else take up the patu taiaha or engage in warfare. No. And yet here you are now occupying your lands. Eventually and after a period of time colonial soldiers overcame Te Waerenga-a-Hika. I understand that women and children were abused. Loss of food and land resulted. Now you can see here the similarities of the claims that have come into this House.  
Mention must be made of the circumstances that saw some of Ngai Tamanuhiri banished over the waters to the Chatham Islands for 2 years as I understand it. Living conditions were difficult there. Why were they sent there? There was not a reason. Not one. So whoever suffers as the result of an action of the Crown must receive an apology. Further to that there was invasion of lands by soldiers. That happened in Taranaki and in Tauranga and in other areas as it did to you as well Ngai Tamanuhiri hence the confiscation of Ngai Tamanuhiri’s interests in their ancestral lands. It was like that throughout the country. Land was stolen taken wrongfully and all those kind of things. It happened to you too my chiefs. It was a form of partitioning land off a portion to that person and another to someone else.  
But from my Maori perspective we must amalgamate the land so that the benefit goes to everyone. Keep the land as one—do not divide it. Why? Benefit will not accrue by doing it that way. The lifestyle of a person will not change—it remains on hold. The Maori Land Court was like that in the past. It was like that in other parts of the country as well. The Public Works Act was one. What despicable legislation that was. Its job in those times was to steal the land. Now what I have read in relation to you Ngai Tamanuhiri was published in the statement about the Manutuke consolidation scheme. It is not as though I really know much about the circumstances relating to that scheme but I understand that from 1958 the Crown came to an agreement and released to you some lands belonging to another tribe as compensation for the land it stole from you in the first place. That happened elsewhere as well. Rubbish and sewage went out to sea near Gisborne tarnishing and damaging the coast as in other areas. Furthermore Ngai Tamanuhiri had sacred sites and what role did the Government have in that? To steal those sacred sites. So the desire to settle claims is at hand and has been reached. So come forth under the circumstances of that statement Ngai Tamanuhiri.  
At the forum on education today a statement was made that the real emphasis must be on education. There it is in a nutshell: take all the schools on the East Coast and make them aware of the effects and difficulties that will affect you my leaders.  
I turn now to focus my attention on myself on Ngati Makino that side that connects me to Te Arawa. Welcome my uncle Te Ariki Morehu with your company of travellers welcome. Let me share this story about something you said some years ago. What you said at a gathering at home went like this: “Is that so? What a cheek! Who is the boiled head saying that Ngati Makino is not a tribe?”. To my knowledge what I have recounted is true: “Is that so? What a cheek! Who is the boiled head saying that Ngati Makino is not a tribe?”. There you are what blossomed and came into existence out of that statement is all there in the bill tonight. Regardless of what was said at home it will move through the stages of becoming law tonight. So to you esteemed father welcome.  
I will not expand too much on the circumstances of this matter because we are who we are. But the good thing perhaps about all this is that the mountains and sacred sites will return once again to us at home. Furthermore we will get funding to help us as well in everything. However my heart goes out to those who are not here tonight to listen to the speeches that will complete this legislation. I think back to the meetings on our marae at Otamarakau. Furthermore when the Minister came on your advice to him was to provide the funding and everything else. All the talk comes to bear this evening it has made it this legislation has made it this evening. So I have said enough about this legislation. What is left for me to do is to simply put forth some statements for us to debate and to congratulate you collectively of course for bringing these two little offerings to this level. It has made it it has made it it has made it. Behold the breath of life! Thanks to everyone. 
]  
BRENDAN HORAN (NZ First) 
: 
 It is a great privilege for me to stand on behalf of New Zealand First. Today is a landmark day. Toitu te whenua toitu te tangata toitu te mana—the land endures the people prevail the mana is secure. These tribal settlements are about the nexus of place people and prestige. They do not guarantee success of their own right but they do acknowledge the debt of history.  
I would also agree with the speakers who have been before me and I would welcome everyone here in the gallery. And I would ask you please to stand because although you are small in number you are immense in presence. You represent the hard work the blood the sweat the tears of all those who have gone before you. You know the hardships that you have endured and your place is special here in this whare raiona—this lion’s den. Here you are.  
I would like to acknowledge Tu Wyllie. I acknowledge Tu as an example of the many people who have done such hard work as he was a former New Zealand First MP. He knows what hard work is about. He knows about loyalty and so I would like to acknowledge him— 
Hon Tau Henare 
: Whatever! Talk about something you know about. 
BRENDAN HORAN 
: —unlike some follicly challenged members I know. But never mind; this is not the time for that. What I am saying though is that I am proud to be here and I acknowledge your presence and you are not alone because I see many people here. I see a great presence. If you would join with me and waiata with me: 
E Ihowa Atua 
O nga iwi matou ra 
Ata whakarangona 
Me aroha noa 
Kia hua ko te pai; 
Kia tau to atawhai; 
Manaakitia mai 
Aotearoa 
Thank you. 
Hon TAU HENARE (National) 
: 
 Tena koe e te Rangatira tena koe. Tena koutou i haere mai i tenei po. No reira mihi kau atu ana ki a koutou katoa.  
[ 
Greetings Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson greetings to you. Greetings to those of you who came here tonight. So acknowledgments to you all 
.] 
New Zealand First back in the House eh? And all they can do is sing the national anthem! That is it. That is the sum total of New Zealand First’s contribution to two Treaty bills. Damn that was good! I cannot wait to go home and tell my moko that Brendan Horan had the opportunity to say something really really deep and all he could do was sing the national anthem. And do you know what Brendan Horan? It was not even a good version. And let me tell those people over there that if he wants to have a go about loyalty in New Zealand First then how come Tu Wyllie was not put up to No. 2 on the list when he stayed with New Zealand First? I do not think that is anything to do with loyalty. 
Hon Nanaia Mahuta 
: What number are you? 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: No. 40 and I still got in. No. 40 and I still got in. No. 40 and there were still people after me who got in. It may not happen next time but I am very proud of the fact. It may not happen again but hey I do not digress. 
Andrew Williams 
: Why are you playing snakes and ladders? 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: Sorry what was that? 
Andrew Williams 
: Why are you playing snakes and ladders with you being the snake going downwards? 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: Well look at least I can go to the toilet properly. 
Hon Parekura Horomia 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. We are here this evening debating and discussing a very very serious matter that history has put asunder that people in Parliament have trampled on and I think it is correct that we get on with the business rather than play oral fights. 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: Speaking to the point of order there is a long tradition in this House that when there are interjections a member who has got the call can respond to those interjections—especially if they are of a personal nature. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Thank you. I also remind the House that if they look at Speakers’ rulings there is also some leeway given when people make contributions in the House.  
Hon TAU HENARE 
: We have heard the platitudes of nearly every member in the House and along with those I add mine as well. My congratulations go to iwi to the Government to the Public Service to the Office of Treaty Settlements to Crown Law and to everybody involved in trying to bring closure to this aspect of New Zealand’s history. 
But let us not forget that it is a deal between the Crown and iwi. Therefore I want to ruffle a few feathers as I am wont to do on many occasions and say that this House looks very seriously at how we deal with Treaty settlements. I say that because when the bill comes to the Maori Affairs Committee the select committee cannot change any part of the deal between iwi and the Crown—it cannot do that. And sometimes I wonder why we waste iwi time and why we waste the House’s time by having the bill go to a select committee. It is my opinion that because it is a deal between the Crown and iwi there must be some way where we can speed up the process so that iwi can get on with the job of looking after iwi. 
So I want to say that what we have done in the select committee is two things. One is to split the committee in half and have a couple of committees go out and do our business. And we have also promised ourselves that the turn-round will not be 6 months it will not be 3 months; it will be between 4 and 8 weeks. So we give that commitment to iwi so that they can get on with the job at hand. 
I will not be too long but there is something else that I want to respond to and that is some suggestion that section 9 of the State-Owned Enterprises Act has something to do with what we are talking about. All I can say is that at the end of the consultation process I can guarantee—because I am a member of this Government—that there will be the Crown’s response to iwi and the Crown’s recognition that it must take into account the Treaty of Waitangi. That is the Crown’s responsibility. So if section 9 does go there will be a rewritten clause that still says the Crown has a responsibility to take into account the Treaty of Waitangi. 
I just briefly want to mention something that the Hon Parekura Horomia mentioned in his speech and that is the issue about rates and it has been a vexed issue for Government as far back as my great-grandfather who just happened to be a member of Parliament nearly 100 years ago. I think that there is coming a time where we will—both sides of the House—have to agree on a mechanism for the rating or not of Maori land because it is getting completely out of hand and the only losers are those Maori who have shares in Maori land. 
Hoi ano taku mihi ki a koutou katoa. Ano taku mihi ki a nga rangatira o te Whare nei taku tuakana a Parekura a no reira tena koutou tena koutou kia ora mai tatou katoa. 
[ 
Thus I acknowledge you all. My compliments to the leading figures of this House to my elder Parekura so greetings to you greetings to you and greetings to us all 
.] 
RINO TIRIKATENE (Labour—Te Tai Tonga) 
: 
 Tena koe Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson nga mihi tino pai o tenei tau. Tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou nga rangatira o Ngai Tamanuhiri me Ngati Makino. Ko koutou te reo karanga o te ra. Mihi tonu atu ki a koutou katoa tena koutou tena koutou katoa. 
[ 
Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson and the very finest of this year to you. Greetings to you the leaders of Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino greetings. It is your voice that calls today. This acknowledgment is directed at you all so salutations and greetings 
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I am very proud to join with my Labour colleagues here in support of the two bills before this House this evening: the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill. It is an honour because I completed my maiden speech just a couple of days ago and today is my first official speech before the House so I am very thrilled to be talking to these very important bills.  
I acknowledge Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino for travelling here today to celebrate this significant occasion and the passage of these important bills before the House and in the progression of your Treaty settlements. So I mihi to you all.  
As an uri of Tahupotiki—Ngai Tahu—I would like to specifically just focus at this point of my speech on the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill. I acknowledge the whanaungatanga connections that I have and that all of us in Te Tai Tonga and Ngai Tahu whanui whom I represent have with Ngai Tamanuhiri. I acknowledge the common ancestry we that we have as cousins. The Ngai Tamanuhiri claims settlement is the first of the Turanga claims which is the first in the Gisborne area. So I also acknowledge getting first off the blocks in terms of the progression of this bill to this stage. I look forward to seeing other progress made across the Turanga region.  
We would not be here today without the support effort hard work and toil over many years that has gone into the claims from both of the respective iwi. I acknowledge all of those who have gone before—who have progressed and championed and gone through tribunal processes and the hard sweat and toil that goes into bringing the settlements to this point in time. In particular I would like to acknowledge all of those who were involved in the Ngai Tamanuhiri lands claim negotiations team: Dawn Pomana Reuben Riki who died just before the land claims hearings commenced Melanie Tarsau and Pauline Hill; then in 2007 Hope Tupara; and from 2008 to 2011 Na Rongowhakaata Raihania. I also acknowledge the research team that was involved with the Ngai Tamanuhiri claims: Warren Pohatu Noel Pohatu Hope Tupara kaumatua Na Raihania Hare Pohatu who is deceased Rose Thompson who is also deceased—and we acknowledge them—Temple Isaacs and Nolan Raihania who I understand are in the House tonight. I acknowledge all of those individuals in regard to participating in the hard work of advancing these important claims through to this point in time to this stage of the bill.  
In terms of my own association with Ngai Tamanuhiri I would like to relate my own firsthand experience dealing with Ngai Tamanuhiri when I was with Ngai Tahu. I mentioned the close association that we have whakapapa-wise and that extended right in terms of the fisheries settlements with the Treaty tribes coalition and the kaupapa that we stood on with mana whenua mana moana. So I acknowledge Ngai Tamanuhiri in that respect and in the history that we have in those other areas of Treaty settlements. In particular what I learnt from my associations with Ngai Tamanuhiri—and in particular Dawn Pomana—was the very principled approach that they have to their tikanga. That was to the fore in all the dealings that Ngai Tahu had with Ngai Tamanuhiri in terms of our annual dealings around our fisheries transactions and the like. That has flowed through to all of the mahi that has gone on culminating this evening in the presentation of this bill for its first reading.  
I would like to also acknowledge the history that is embodied in the settlement that is now before us in this bill which was ratified through the deed of settlement. That actually goes back to all of the historical injustices and grievances that were inflicted upon Ngai Tamanuhiri by the Crown right through from the 1860s in terms of land dealings and the operation of the Poverty Bay Commission and the impact of the operation of the Native Land Court. There is a lot of history and a lot of grievances there and they were fully expressed through the Waitangi Tribunal reports. They highlighted the very severe breaches of the Treaty in the Turanga area and in particular against Ngai Tamanuhiri.  
The historical background is there and these settlements go some way towards trying to acknowledge the grievances of the past and I know the Crown does include its apologies but it does not nearly compensate for all of the lost opportunities the mamae and the grievance that has been inflicted upon the iwi and the many generations of whanau. That is why I am very proud to be here this evening to play my part in advancing this important bill through to the next stage so we can actually enact some measure of redress and compensation and apologies through this legislation and so we can address the issues of the past and also lay a platform for ongoing relationships for Ngai Tamanuhiri and the Crown and also for Ngati Makino and the Crown.  
I would just like to support again with my Labour colleagues the passage of this legislation through to the select committee stage. I acknowledge my whanaunga the Hon Tau Henare no te nota as our chair of the Maori Affairs Committee. I look forward to playing my part on the committee especially when we will be breaking into two subcommittees so we can advance the progression of these bills and to leading this legislation right through this House so that we can finally put the seal on it and pass it right the way through the House. I commend the passage of this legislation at this time. Kia ora ano tatou katoa. 
JAMI-LEE ROSS (National—Botany) 
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 I am pleased to speak on the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill. I must admit to the House this is the first time I have spoken on a Treaty settlement bill. I am new on the Maori Affairs Committee so I apologise to those listening if I cannot give this legislation quite the thorough explanation acknowledgment and indeed acclamation that I know the legislation deserves. I will however be doing my best to listen to the submissions to the Maori Affairs Committee and I am sure I will indeed get quite an education under the guidance of rangatira Tau Henare our chairman on the Maori Affairs Committee.  
I wish to first acknowledge the work that has been done by the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations the Hon Chris Finlayson and all those involved in getting these settlement bills to the point that they are at now. The great progress that the Minister has made on completing final and durable settlements of Treaty of Waitangi claims in a timely manner through his tenure as the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations is impressive.  
I think New Zealand is still maturing as a nation and we are stepping forward into the 21st century. Part of the maturing process is acknowledging the rights and wrongs of the past. It would be easy for New Zealanders to simply ignore that in our short history as a country many cultural and economic wrongs were committed. Indeed for many decades New Zealand has ignored that these issues prevailed. But the fact that we are here together today debating these bills these pieces of legislation that will stand alongside many past and future settlement bills indicates that as a country we are ready to accept the past and move forward. 
 The part of the country that I represent the Botany electorate is predominantly white middle to upper-class suburban Auckland. It is an area of the country that is quite sceptical of Treaty settlements and I have to admit that I probably was too up until recently. But the more I have seen and read of Treaty settlements and the programme and the more I have watched from afar the work that the Minister and the Office of Treaty Settlements have done the more I can see that through resolving the wrongs of the past we can refloat and regain momentum for the waka that is harmonious New Zealand race relations. In my view the key part to reassuring New Zealanders who are sceptical about Treaty settlements is to assure them that under this Government Treaty settlements have been and will continue to be full fair and final.  
Parts of the deeds of settlement which outline historical grievances for both Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino I have to say make for very sobering reading. In the case of Ngai Tamanuhiri we read of indiscriminate looting of the Turanga region at the hands of the Crown in the aftermath of the Waerenga-a-hika attack. The Waerenga-a-hika attack itself saw women and children among other occupants put through unwarranted and unjust attacks at the hands of the Crown. Land was compulsorily acquired without compensation and many Ngai Tamanuhiri were left virtually landless.  
A similar story is told in the case of Ngati Makino. The year 1864 saw the loss of life at the hands of the Crown confiscation of land in the Eastern Bay of Plenty took place in 1866 and between 1873 and 1900 82000 hectares of Ngati Makino land was alienated. By the end of the 19th century less than 4 percent of land of Ngati Makino’s Waitahanui Tahunaroa and Whakarewa blocks remained in their hands—and please excuse my pronunciation if I have got any of those incorrect. These are just a few of the many injustices that took place in the past—injustices that up until recently were not acknowledged. But the Crown has now acknowledged these injustices and has apologised through these two settlements. The settlements we have before us tonight will help Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino unlock economic potential and provide a boost to their regional and provincial areas. In turn these two iwi will be able to contribute in an even greater way towards building a more competitive and productive New Zealand economy.  
These bills are worthy of passage through their first reading tonight. I ask that the House does support them and I hope that we have thorough and good quality recognition of the issues through the select committee process. I am looking forward to hearing about the issues that we will be discussing at the select committee and I look forward to this legislation passing its first reading. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I understand the next call is a split call 5 minutes with Labour and 5 minutes with the Greens. I will ring a bell with 1 minute to go. 
Hon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour—Hauraki-Waikato) 
: 
 Tena koe Mr Assistant Speaker Tisch. Ka tapiri atu aku mihi i waihotia ki a koutou Ngati Makino Ngai Tamanuhiri i tau mai nei ki roto i to Whare ki te whakarongo ki enei korero i tenei po. No reira tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa  
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Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker Tisch. I add my tributes that were bestowed upon you Ngati Makino and Ngai Tamanuhiri when you landed here in your House to listen to these speeches tonight. So greetings to you collectively greetings to you and to us all 
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Treaty settlements are more than an academic exercise. It is about passion and the history of people who are trying to seek redress for past wrongs. I want to acknowledge that this is a first reading opportunity for the bills from Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino to come to the House so the substance of the investigations on the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill will in fact occur in the Maori Affairs Committee which is right. But it is important to note that in the innovation of hearing Treaty settlements over this period of time—and I came into Parliament when the first lot of Treaty settlements started to come to this House—we as members of Parliament have started to improve processes around the processing of Treaty settlements because by and large if the purpose of Brendan Horan’s speech was to highlight that the nation that we seek to create is one built strongly on biculturalism and the national anthem is in Maori and English then Treaty settlements are an important part of creating a sense of nationhood and identity and addressing the historical wrongs is a strong pillar of what Aotearoa New Zealand should stand for. It is a country where those rights of tangata whenua are recognised where the hurts of the past are addressed but where enabled to get over that particular hurdle the next generation can look forward and move forward with confidence. And it is no easy feat to reach this part of a Treaty settlement. So my comments are by and large to both Ngati Makino and Ngai Tamanuhiri.  
Sometimes people wonder why we are coming to the House to hear the first reading speeches when everybody seems to be saying the same thing again and again and again in 10 different ways. But let me give you three good reasons why the select committee process is an important process. Firstly it ensures the intent of your deed aligns to how the legislation actually reads. As you all know some times the devil is in the detail. So it is really important during the scrutiny at the select committee for members to look at what was intended in the deed and how the legislation reads to ensure that it lines up. That is the first thing.  
The second thing is the broader aspect of educating our country. Members of Parliament hold in some sense a microcosm of the view of our communities from where we come from and we can inform our communities about what is happening through the Treaty settlement process and allay fears but also present new opportunities for people to learn about histories that are not easily found in the history books.  
The third part of the select committee process which is often a critical part but the most difficult to challenge and change is for members or Parliament to put greater scrutiny on the way in which the Crown or the Government acts and that is through the Office of Treaty Settlements when it deals with Maori. It is very difficult to challenge the way in which the Office of Treaty Settlements often engages through the negotiation process but it is an opportunity for members of Parliament to put a fine lens on issues that are highlighted to them at the select committee process to ensure that people are treated fairly in the way they seek to negotiate redress through their Treaty settlement. So those are but three reasons why the select committee process in bringing your bills to the House is a necessary if not absolutely important task of achieving Treaty settlements.  
I will reserve my comments on the substance of these two bills if I get the opportunity to speak to the third readings. But I want to acknowledge those people who have passed both from Ngati Makino and Ngai Tamanuhiri those people who have carried the flame of your Treaty settlement claim to this point and those kaumatua who now hold the flame so that the next generation continues to tell the story that must be told to ensure the most important clause of both your bills—and that is clause 4: “This Act binds the Crown.” And for as long as this Act binds the Crown then it is inherent on every member of Parliament who accedes to your Treaty settlement that it be implemented in the manner for which it was intended and that is to uphold the deed in your Treaty settlement. 
No reira i raro i era kupu poto kua whakarapopoto aku nei korero ki a koutou. Tena koutou katoa.  
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So under the realm of those brief words I shorten this address of mine to you collectively. Greetings to you all 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I call—which one is this? I call Denise Roche. My apologies—there are three of you who look very similar. 
DENISE ROCHE (Green) 
: 
 Thank you Mr Assistant Speaker. We Pakeha often look the same! Tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou. E nga rangatira o Ngati Makino nau mai haere mai ki konei. E nga rangatira o Ngai Tamanuhiri tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa. 
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Greetings to you collectively greetings greetings. Welcome to the leaders of Ngati Makino welcome here. Greetings collectively as well to you the leaders of Ngai Tamanuhiri greetings greetings 
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This is my first time as well standing after my maiden speech and I am privileged to be speaking on these bills tonight the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill. I acknowledge all the statements that have gone before me and I particularly want to mihi to Nanaia Mahuta about the building of nationhood and the importance of the passing of these settlements which will do that for our country of Aotearoa.  
The Green Party has a story that we want to tell. It is basically about our relationship with Ngai Tamanuhiri. This is not to disrespect the settlement process that is going through for Ngati Makino but there has been a personal relationship that we want to outline. The $12 million settlement can be described really as a deal but not a settlement. The people from Muriwai and the rohe katoa have negotiated a deal and we have been told by some that it was a valuable process in terms of reaffirming their own story but it is a deal. It is what they could get. Settlement means when all the dust has been laid to rest; there is still dust floating in the clouds around Te Kuri a Paoa. It is not for the Green Party to say what should have been included in that settlement—that is your story; that is the work that you have been doing for decades and decades—but we do have a story that we want to acknowledge.  
Ngai Tamanuhiri say that when Capitain Cook’s and Young Nick’s ship entered the bay at Turanga-nui-a-Kiwa they became the front line of the historical mythology of how this country was colonised. Their maunga—Te Kuri a Paoa—was renamed Young Nicks Head by Captain Cook. The appropriation of Te Kuri a Paoa did not stop there and that is how the Green Party through my colleague Catherine Delahunty and her partner Gordon Jackman became involved supporting the 21st century struggle of Ngai Tamanuhiri to stop the sale of Te Kuri a Paoa to a New York stockbroker called John Griffin.  
The maunga had been in Pakeha hands for many years as a farm and when the Coop family decided to sell it Ngai Tamanuhiri sought desperately for the money to make an offer to regain their maunga. In 2002 the Greens supported their occupation of the pa site Rangihoua and Green MPs at the time Rod Donald Nandor Tanczos and our co-leader Metiria Turei all visited the occupation if you can call sitting on your own maunga such a thing. Current Green MP Catherine Delahunty and Gordon Jackman also supported the Ngai Tamanuhiri hikoi to Wellington to fight for the opportunity for purchase. A ghastly compromise meant that some of the wahi tapu would be kept as public land and access to them acknowledged while most of the maunga was sold to Mr Griffin. Foreign ownership of an iconic landmark was a national disgrace as well as a breach of te Tiriti but Mr Griffin had the most money. Under this bill Ngai Tamanuhiri regain the pa site on the maunga Rangihoua and the cliff-face is gifted to the nation in recognition of history. Their generosity is greater than anything ever shown to you as a people in this painful story but the pa site is an important and significant inclusion.  
The Green Party still believes that foreign ownership of sacred maunga is an abuse of te Tiriti and we regret that the settlement process amounts to a partial redress of a deep hara. The access to fighting grounds of ancient value and current needs is via the permission of the American stockbroker and his farm manager—it is goodwill. It is good that the forestry lands on Wharerata will be available to purchase now to Ngai Tamanuhiri but at market rates. We stole your whenua and now you can buy it back at market rates—that is the deal. Take it or leave it!  
There is more to be said on this history but at first reading we simply wish to acknowledge the people of Muriwai the rohe and also Te Kuri a Paoa where the pou was placed by the people during the protests and where it still stands in the winds always belonging to mana whenua whatever the outcome of the process. And so it will always stand. We acknowledge the journey that you have yet to go. We will support this bill. We recognise that it does not meet the full redress and that is something we are concerned about but we support you. No reira tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa. 
LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupo) 
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 Tena koe e te Mana Whakawa. Tena koe e te Whare. Rau rangatira ma tenei te mihi ki a koutou i runga i te kaupapa o te ra. Tena koutou nga rangatira o Ngai Tamanuhiri me Ngati Makino. Tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa. 
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Greetings to you Mr Assistant Speaker Tisch and the House. I extend greetings to you the many leaders in respect of the matter of the day. Greetings to the leaders of Ngai Tamanuhiri and Ngati Makino. Greetings to you greetings to you and greetings to you all 
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I am proud to stand and take the final call in this first reading of the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill and very proud of the record that we have made as a National Government in getting durable settlements through as part of our progress towards full partnership. I am proud of our Ministers involved and like all members of this House I am very proud to be supporting unanimously this first reading. I look forward to meeting with you during the select committee process. Thank you.  
Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill read a first time.  
Billreferred to the Maori Affairs Committee. 
Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill read a first time.  
Bill referred to the Maori Affairs Committee. 
Waiata.