7. Question No. 7—EducationHon NIKKI KAYE (National—Auckland Central) to the Associate Minister of EducationQuestion No. 7—Education7. Hon NIKKI KAYE (National—Auckland Central) to the Associate Minister of Education: Does she stand by her statements regarding learning support coordinators and is she confident that she understands the value of supporting teachers?Hon KELVIN DAVIS (Associate Minister of Education (Māori Education)) on behalf of the Associate Minister of Education: Yes.Hon Nikki Kaye: Isn't it correct that zero new learning support coordinators have been recruited under this policy eight months after the Prime Minister's promise and announcement?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: On behalf of the Associate Minister of Education decisions around the recruitment of learning support coordinators will be made in due course.Hon Nikki Kaye: Why did she say in November of last year that it's too important to wait regarding learning support coordinators given eight months on schools are telling me they don't have clarity on the policy they don't know which schools will—SPEAKER: Order! Order! That's—Hon Nikki Kaye: —get one and they have no confidence that 600 will be recruited by term 1 of next year?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: There will be and we're committed to this kicking off in 2020.Hon Nikki Kaye: How can she say she values support for teachers when she got into a Facebook fight with a principal where she said teachers are effectively being greedy and are only interested in their pay packets?SPEAKER: Order! That does not relate at all to the primary question.Hon Nikki Kaye: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I worded that question very specifically. The primary question says in the second part is she confident that she understands the value of supporting teachers?" Again if you'd like me to repeat the supplementary question—SPEAKER: No I listened to it very carefully.Hon Nikki Kaye: I said "How can she say she values support for teachers?" It is absolutely within order. I have—SPEAKER: The second part of the member's primary question is read in the context of that question and it was about learning support and supporting teachers in a learning support context.Hon Nikki Kaye: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. At the time the Prime Minister and the Associate Minister made the announcement they made it very clear that these roles would be teachers. That is why I worded the question very specifically to link both the fact that these learning support coordinators are teachers and the issue of value of teachers. This question in my view is in order. The Government has promised that they'll be teachers.SPEAKER: That would've been two distinct and separate questions and not two parts of one question. The member has been here for quite a while. She knows that even where a question has two legs there has to be a relationship between them and that has not been established. I'll give the member one more crack at asking a supplementary.Hon Nikki Kaye: How can she say that she values learning support coordinators when principals are concerned about her comments that she's made about teachers only being interested in their pay packets?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: On behalf of the Associate Minister of Education she can say that because of her fine record in advocating for education as an Associate Minister of Education as a chairperson of a board of trustees and just the general hard work that she does.Rt Hon Winston Peters: With respect to the primary question on the issue of the value of supporting teachers does the Government tend to rectify the grievous wrong done by the previous Government and restore pay parity for teachers?SPEAKER: Order! The Deputy Prime Minister has just heard me rule out an area of questioning down exactly that line and I think he would have seen my lack of tolerance with Nikki Kaye during that time in her argument with me. For him to continue it is just not showing the sort of leadership that one expects from the most experienced member of the House. He will stand withdraw and apologise.Rt Hon Winston Peters: I stand withdraw and apologise. I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. To quote Tana Umaga we're not playing tiddlywinks here. Pay parity was destroyed by the previous administration it having been put in there by a former Government of which I was a member and now I'm hearing that it's of no matter in terms of the value of supporting teachers. This is politics and people need to hear it.SPEAKER: I made it very clear I think on Tuesday to that member that he was on his last warning. He clearly didn't listen to my discussion before. He repeated something he withdrew and apologised and then he continued to argue afterwards. He will leave the House.David Seymour: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I raise a related but separate matter with regard to patsy questions asked by members on the Government side of the House with the intention of inviting a Minister to attack the Opposition. Now that last question was arguably an example of that but there have been several more egregious examples this week and I just want to ask you: is it still the case that such questions cannot be asked and should be ruled out of order?SPEAKER: Well I mean I'm frankly getting slightly frustrated with having to give advice to the member but he knows my having dealt with this matter now (1) he can't refer to that and (2) he can't go backwards. If he thinks he has a point of order he should take it at the appropriate time and not later.Hon Nikki Kaye: Is she confident that she understands the value of supporting teachers and learning support coordinators when a principal—[Interruption]Rt Hon Winston Peters withdrew from the Chamber. Hon Gerry Brownlee: At least the Cabinet table of 1996 would be at that pace.SPEAKER: That's three.Hon Gerry Brownlee: Yeah it was worth it.SPEAKER: The Hon Gerry Brownlee will stand withdraw and apologise.Hon Gerry Brownlee: I withdraw and apologise Mr Speaker.SPEAKER: The punishment is doubled.Hon Nikki Kaye: Is she confident that she understands and values supporting teachers and learning support coordinators when a principal recently said "As the Associate Minister of Education I would've hoped you'd have more respect for teachers than to say they are only interested in their own pay packets. What I believe is it is possible to speak respectfully and professionally even through disagreements."?Hon KELVIN DAVIS: On behalf of the Associate Minister of Education yes.SPEAKER: Question No. 8? [Member not present to ask Question No. 8] Question No. 9 the Hon Michael Woodhouse."