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Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Crown Entities Reform Bill — First Reading 
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Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Crown Entities Reform Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 04 October 2011. Volume:676;Page:21657. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National) 
: 
 I stand to debate the first reading of the Crown Entities Reform Bill. The purpose of the bill is to amalgamate the functions of a number of existing agencies for greater efficiency and to streamline bureaucracy and focus on better public services. This omnibus bill provides for structural changes in the way the Government is organised across the health and charitable sector. 
New Zealand currently has 38 Government departments over 150 Crown entities and more than 200 other agencies. There are clearly efficiencies to be gained by merging entities or transferring their functions to other agencies. The National Government has already set up the Better Public Services Advisory Group to provide support and advice to the Minister of State Services and to help ensure that the changes we make improve results. The group has clearly focused on value for money innovation high-quality service provision and effective change management. We have made pragmatic decisions to merge Government departments and agencies with ongoing savings. These amalgamations alone will deliver a saving of $92 million over 4 years and ongoing savings of $22 million per annum. We have already amalgamated the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry and the New Zealand Food Safety Authority. We have also agreed to merge the Ministry of Fisheries and the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry. These changes will improve the efficiency coordination and quality of public services. 
I am very pleased that under National we have 300 more police officers in Counties Manukau and we are on track to have 600 more by the end of the year which includes those 300 in Counties Manukau. I have heard from the people of Manukau that they feel safer with these new deployments. These improved circumstances are due to those agencies delivering good front-line services where they count. I support this bill.
Parker David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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7. 
Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour) 
 to the  
Prime Minister 
: Does he stand by his statement that “if we get downgraded I personally would be very disappointed and very surprised”? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH (Deputy Prime Minister) 
 on behalf of the Prime Minister: Yes in the context in which it was made which was just before the 2009 Budget. 
Hon David Parker 
: Which of the following does the Prime Minister think was the more significant reason behind the rating agencies’ decisions to downgrade the rating of New Zealand: his Government’s consistent failure to meet its own growth forecasts or the projections of ever-increasing international debt? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: The most significant factor has been the fact that the global economy is facing increased volatility and lower growth prospects. That has made ratings agencies banks governments and everybody much more sensitive to debt. So despite the fact that New Zealand’s position is better than it was in 2008 we have been put under the microscope and rating agencies have decided that even with a lower level of external liabilities we are not as creditworthy as we were. 
Hon David Parker 
: Which of these indicators of his Government’s performance over the past 3 years does he think drove or most drove the double downgrade: 56000 more unemployed real GDP per capita down 3.6 percent real wages down 3.2 percent the wage and GDP gap with Australia up Government spending up from 31 percent to 36 percent of GDP net Government debt up 1700 percent or 100000 emigrants to Australia and an $18 billion deficit? 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Before I call the Minister to answer that whoever is holding those signs in the gallery will take them down immediately or they will be removed. They will be taken down immediately. Thank you. 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: None of them. 
Hon David Parker 
: Given the Minister’s acknowledgment in the first supplementary answer that the greatest problem was New Zealand’s increasing international debt when will he be introducing substantial policies to grow our exports and is he willing to consider a capital gains tax to properly direct investment into the export sector? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: I think that the member might have missed the large tax package that the Government put in place in the Budget last year which is I think taking about $800 million this year out of the speculative property sector. The Government is committed to rebalancing the economy to grow exports and we do not believe that new taxes more spending and $7 billion worth of more borrowing are the ways to do it. 
Hon David Parker 
: Is the Minister telling New Zealand that National rules out ever introducing a broad capital gains tax? 
Hon BILL ENGLISH 
: That is the case and I think that both of the people who turned up to that member’s meetings recently would agree with us.
Smith Lockwood: Resignations — Hon Chris Carter Te Atatu 
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Smith Lockwood: Resignations — Hon Chris Carter Te Atatu 
[Sitting date: 04 October 2011. Volume:676;Page:21623. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I wish to advise the House that I have received a letter from the Hon Chris Carter resigning his seat in the House with effect at the close of 30 September 2011.
Mallard Trevor: Points of Order — Chamber Lobbies and Galleries—Conduct in Chamber Use of Electronic Devices 
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Mallard Trevor: Points of Order — Chamber Lobbies and Galleries—Conduct in Chamber Use of Electronic Devices 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I think the rules on the use of electronic devices in here have somewhat changed. I just want to ask whether it is appropriate for the Minister for Social Development and Employment to be tweeting or texting during prayers. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Members know that I have been pretty relaxed about people using modern communications technology as long as phones do not ring in this place. I do not think we need members telling on each other like that.
Cunliffe David: Urgent Debates Declined — Credit Rating—Downgrade 
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Cunliffe David: Urgent Debates Declined — Credit Rating—Downgrade 
[Sitting date: 04 October 2011. Volume:676;Page:21637. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE (Labour—New Lynn) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I seek your clarification for future reference and your guidance on whether the current year’s Budget would be a recent occurrence within the terms of this Standing Order. You will recall that in the—
Points of Order — Chamber Lobbies and Galleries—Conduct in Chamber Use of Electronic Devices 
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Tuesday 4 October 2011 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
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Points of Order 
Chamber Lobbies and Galleries—Conduct in Chamber Use of Electronic Devices 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. I think the rules on the use of electronic devices in here have somewhat changed. I just want to ask whether it is appropriate for the Minister for Social Development and Employment to be tweeting or texting during prayers. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Members know that I have been pretty relaxed about people using modern communications technology as long as phones do not ring in this place. I do not think we need members telling on each other like that.
Resignations — Hon Chris Carter Te Atatu 
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Resignations — Hon Chris Carter Te Atatu 
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Resignations 
Hon Chris Carter Te Atatu 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I wish to advise the House that I have received a letter from the Hon Chris Carter resigning his seat in the House with effect at the close of 30 September 2011.
Bakshi Kanwaljit Singh: Third Readings — 
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[Sitting date: 04 October 2011. Volume:676;Page:21653. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National) 
: 
 I stand to support the third reading of the legislation arising from Criminal Procedure (Reform and Modernisation) Bill. This legislation will be a big step in reforming criminal procedure thus reducing unnecessary delays and inefficiencies in court processes thereby avoiding unnecessary stress to the victims and those who find themselves there through no fault of their own. I congratulate the Minister of Justice the Hon Simon Power on his achievements on this longstanding issue. 
This legislation also has approval to permit the courts to proceed in the absence of the defendant if the court is not satisfied that the defendant has a reasonable excuse for his or her absence. Another important change to the issue of name suppression is the replacement of the current broad discretion for granting name suppression with more clarity and defined grounds on which evidence and name can be suppressed. 
Justice delayed is justice denied. There are presently excessive delays in the court system. Making time to dispose of a High Court jury trial may take up to 16 months. This legislation will allocate cases between the High Court and District Courts more effectively and streamline pre-trial procedures. 
The legislation also addresses the excessive outlay of the cost incurred. It has been estimated that there are approximately 43000 unnecessary court appearances a year. In excess of two-thirds of these cases do not reach their hearing and fail to proceed on the first date. 
We cannot continue to mask delay and inefficiencies in criminal procedures by simply building more courthouses and appointing more judges. National is committed to improving the criminal justice system and fair trials. We are confident that this legislation will achieve both of those aims. I commend the legislation to the House.
Quinn Paul: Victims of Crime Reform Bill — First Reading 
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[Sitting date: 04 October 2011. Volume:676;Page:21688. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
PAUL QUINN (National) 
: 
 Tena koe. Tena koutou e te Whare. It is pleasing to stand and speak to the introduction of the Victims of Crime Reform Bill. Of course members will be aware that this is just another of the many steps that this National Government has taken in putting crime and the effects of crime at the very front edge of this Government’s policies. It is in fact salient to reflect that one of the first bills that we passed when we came into office was the bill that created the $50 offender levy to create funds for the victims of crime. As I stand here today over $3 million has already been collected to provide 13 new services to those victims. 
As the 49th Parliament draws to a close yet again this Government has at the front of its mind the victims of crime. We believe that the support they get during the process of grieving and adversity that has been impacted on them needs to be given even more support so this bill is aimed at filling that gap further. 
I was somewhat intrigued by the contribution of my good friend and honourable colleague Mr Kennedy Graham to this debate. Although he is supporting the bill he seemed concerned about the rights of the offender and concerned that this bill might create an imbalance between the rights of the offender and the rights of the victim. I was somewhat intrigued by that because he seemed to think that the offender might not have an opportunity in terms of a right of reply to the victim’s impact statement. So I look forward to having a conversation with Kennedy Graham when we return in the 50th Parliament at the Justice and Electoral Committee about issues like this because it is good to be able to thrash them out during the select committee process. 
I am very pleased to stand here—probably for the last time on this occasion under this Parliament—to support such an important bill in respect of a programme of activity of work that this Government has been focused on which is to reduce crime. Of course the latest statistics we have seen continue to support and enhance the outstanding work that the Minister of Police and the Minister of Justice have done as a tag team to bring a safer environment to our communities. I for one am very proud—as I am sure Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson certainly all members on this side of the House and I suspect begrudgingly members of the Opposition are very proud—of the work that has been done in this area of activity. 
So with those few words it gives me great pleasure to support this bill at its first reading.
Young Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers Questions to Members 
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10. 
JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development and Employment 
: What changes are being made to Out of School Care and Recreation? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development and Employment) 
: 
 We have committed an additional $2.8 million for assistance grant funding for out-of-school care and recreation providers and from November we plan to introduce a simplified set of standards for approval in order to reduce significantly that compliance for out-of-school care and recreation providers. We have had a huge increase in the number of providers. The fund was capped so they were getting less money so we have topped it up by $2.8 million this year. 
Jonathan Young 
: How will these changes support those organisations providing out-of-school care and recreation? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: These changes will ensure that we maintain and expand the supply of out-of-school care and recreation provision while also reducing the bureaucracy and compliance for organisations providing these services. Changes to standards include reducing the number of standards from 11 to six trusting providers more and monitoring compliance less making it easier for new providers to establish and enabling home-based care for after-school care as well.
Goodhew Jo: Sittings of the House 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18633. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
JO GOODHEW (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 Given that we have made excellent progress and are very close to the usual time for the House to rise I seek leave for the House to now rise for the evening. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought for purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection.
Lee Melissa: Auditor Regulation Bill Financial Reporting Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
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Lee Melissa: Auditor Regulation Bill Financial Reporting Amendment Bill — Third Readings 
[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18632. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MELISSA LEE (National) 
: 
 This is just a comment that we all support the Auditor Regulation Bill and the Financial Reporting Amendment Bill. I support this legislation and give the House a reminder that it was in fact the Registrar of Companies who identified that audit failures contributed to the finance company collapses that self-regulation alone was no longer acceptable as it was not working and that independent oversight was needed. This is great legislation. I look forward to it becoming law. I support this legislation. Thank you.
Parata Hekia: Arms (Military Style Semi-Automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Parata Hekia: Arms (Military Style Semi-Automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18622. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon HEKIA PARATA (Minister for Ethnic Affairs) 
 on behalf of the  
Minister of Police 
: I move  
That the Law and Order Committeeconsider the Arms (Military Style Semi-automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill 
 that the committee report finally to the House on or before 4 August 2011 and that the committee have authority to meet at any time while the House is sitting (except during oral questions) and during any evening on a day on which there has been a sitting of the House and on a Friday in a week in which there has been a sitting of the House despite Standing Orders 187 and 190(1)(b) and (c). 
Motion agreed to.
Young Jonathan: Arms (Military Style Semi-Automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Young Jonathan: Arms (Military Style Semi-Automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18618. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
: 
 I am also pleased to speak on the Arms (Military Style Semi-automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill. I enjoyed the comments of the previous speaker Rick Barker especially about the slug guns of old. I can just imagine the Hon Rick Barker going rabbit shooting with the rabbits sitting in the paddock saying “Don’t worry it’s only Rick.” and being able to watch from a distance as that slug gun failed to make any dent. But my colleague from the Law and Order Committee was right: that was the situation. As he said unfortunately it is not the situation today.  
I quite like the notion of seeing these firearms in the real. As a young student I was in the Territorials. We went to Trentham and we learnt how to fire self-loading rifles M16s and the like. No doubt many New Zealanders are very familiar with firearms and no doubt that will create lots of debate on this bill.  
This Government is committed to making New Zealand a safer society which is why this bill is before the House. I think everyone in our country including members on this side of the House and the other side would be in agreement with that. In recent years we have seen a proliferation of military-style semi-automatic firearms that for the collector enthusiast or firearms sportsman may seem safe desirable and perhaps the pride of their collection yet increasingly these weapons in the wrong hands stand as a threat to the aspiration of that safer community that we all want to live in. It is not just about weapons being in the wrong hands it is also about how easily they can fall into those hands.  
We have seen a big increase in the number of air guns that replicate real pistols and air rifles that one did not need a licence to purchase but which have been used to kill people. Regulations were changed to require the owners of pre-charged pneumatic or PCP air rifles to hold a firearms licence from October 2010. Pre-charged pneumatic air rifles have been used in two fatal shootings including the murder of police Sergeant Don Wilkinson.  
I take a moment to remember Sergeant Don Wilkinson who was gunned down by a high-powered air rifle on 11 September 2008. He was a man who was more comfortable in active pursuits—playing squash tramping sailing and cycling—and he was one of the people I played squash with in west Auckland. He was a good bloke a man who served our community and we remember him.  
This Government has been looking at what steps can be taken to improve firearms safety not only for the sake of the public but also for the sake of our men and women in the police force who protect us. This bill is part of measures aimed at improving that safety. Thank you.
Katene Rahui: Arms (Military Style Semi-Automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18616. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
RAHUI KATENE (Maori Party—Te Tai Tonga) 
: 
 I rise to take a very brief call on the Arms (Military Style Semi-automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill. Before I speak on this bill I register that I have absolutely no conflict of interest on this bill; I do not own a gun which is just as well because I also do not own a firearms licence. Like many people in this House who I am sure grew up learning how to shoot my first lessons were on a .303 rifle. I have also had lessons on a .22 and I have spent quite a bit of time firing air rifles. I have to report that in very few cases I actually hit the target.  
Dr Paul Hutchison 
: You should be registered. 
RAHUI KATENE 
: Yes I should be registered. But it is not a problem because I do not shoot now. That is deliberate. We have had such a big problem here in New Zealand over the last few years with guns with shootings both accidental and deliberate. 
I think that in the case of military-style semi-automatic firearms this bill is perfect because they are very dangerous. We heard a very good call from the Green member Keith Locke. I think we need to have this bill go through very quickly because regardless of all the lobbying we have been getting from people the entire population of New Zealand will win from this bill. We do not need these types of guns in New Zealand. The only people who should have access to these types of weapons are the military and perhaps in some cases the police—I would prefer that they did not. But the general population at large should not have any sort of access to these weapons. 
I also support the part of the bill about air rifles that look like rifles. That makes them so dangerous for their owners and for those who come by them in other ways—for example children who think they are toys pick them up and cause a problem to themselves to their neighbours and to the people who then call out the police. The armed offenders squad comes out to face they know not what. 
The Maori Party supports this bill and we are very happy to continue to support it. Kia ora.
Goudie Sandra: Dairy Industry Restructuring (New Sunset Provisions) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18613. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
SANDRA GOUDIE (National—Coromandel) 
: 
 I will not take too much of the House’s time but I do want to echo the comments made by my excellent colleagues. I particularly note the work of the chair of the Primary Production Committee Shane Ardern. He has done a magnificent job and probably has one of the greatest understandings of the agricultural sector of anyone in this Parliament.  
I also acknowledge every single one of our primary producers in New Zealand because it is on the back of their hard work that we are able to afford things like health education law and order and of course the protection of the environment. I say to all our primary producers and the agricultural sector that they do a magnificent job and long may that continue.
Ardern Shane: Arms (Military Style Semi-Automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18614. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
SHANE ARDERN (National—Taranaki - King Country) 
: 
 Once again I think I would be fairly unpopular if I took up all of my 8 remaining minutes on the Arms (Military Style Semi-automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill.  
When we were last discussing this bill last evening we were identifying the reasons why it is necessary. Looking at the work that went on to establish the Government’s position I can gather that there has been an increase in the power or the strength of airguns. As members will be aware one or two quite serious crimes have been perpetrated with the use of these guns and I think one resulted in the death of a police officer.  
The Government has looked to see what needs to be changed since the original Arms Amendment Act 1992 and has concluded that some of these military-style semi-automatic firearms are poorly defined and are able to be used in the same way as an airgun. A typical slug gun that a farming family might buy for its children no longer fits the legislative framework designed to govern it. I remember that my own very first firearm was a slug gun. I am sure yours probably was too Mr Assistant Speaker Roy although in the deep south to try to knock back some of those charging deer down there your father probably got you something a little more powerful than a slug gun. In our case it was a slug gun and that was a fairly harmless instrument at that time but no longer is that the case.  
The Government has looked at what it can do and it has decided that the definition of “military style semi-automatic firearm” has been found wanting. The police have submitted to the Government that there is a need for change and this bill is designed to address that need. Thank you.
Lee Melissa: Arms (Military Style Semi-Automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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Lee Melissa: Arms (Military Style Semi-Automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18621. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
MELISSA LEE (National) 
: 
 Until the previous speaker Chris Hipkins started talking about the previous chairperson of the Law and Order Committee—who I must say did an excellent job—I had an image of an innocent Bambi running around Rimutaka. His innocence was obviously shot down while he was talking about the Arms (Military Style Semi-automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Bill.  
It is a great pleasure to rise and speak in support of this bill and I am very pleased to have heard Mr Rick Barker’s contribution. He obviously has amazing knowledge about firearms and hunting. When he was saying that a long time ago slug guns had such and such a speed I did consider how old he might be. I look forward to listening to his and to other members’ contributions.  
The legislative changes regarding military-style semi-automatic firearms were made in 1992 as a result of the Aramoana incident in which David Gray shot dead 13 people. New Zealand has always had licences for people and not for guns. This legislation will give us an opportunity to look at why we need to place restrictions on the importation of airguns that look like military-style semi-automatic weapons and why we need to amend the definition of “military style semi-automatic firearms” in the Arms Act. I look forward to the select committee process and the great debate we will have. Thank you. 
Bill read a first time.
Vote: Dairy Industry Restructuring (New Sunset Provisions) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18613. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Dairy Industry Restructuring (New Sunset Provisions) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 107 
New Zealand National 58; New Zealand Labour 42; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 9; Maori Party 4; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Bill read a third time.
Vote: Third Readings 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18599. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Resource Management Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 68 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 54 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Bill read a third time.
Vote: Third Readings 
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Vote: Third Readings 
[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18599. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Ozone Layer Protection Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 68 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 54 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Bill read a third time.
Tremain Chris: Third Readings 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18598. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
CHRIS TREMAIN (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. My understanding is that Hone Harawira has resigned from Parliament. If that is the case then I doubt whether he is able to vote. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: The member has resigned effective from midnight on Friday 20 May. 
Hon Clayton Cosgrove 
: Nick’s only here in spirit. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I am on my feet. His vote is accepted.
Vote: Third Readings 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18598. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Imports and Exports (Restrictions) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 68 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 54 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Bill read a third time. 
A party vote was called for on the question that the Ozone Layer Protection Amendment Bill be now read a third time.
Vote: Third Readings 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18598. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Environmental Protection Authority Bill be now read a third time.  
Ayes 63 
New Zealand National 58; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 59 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Bill read a third time.
Locke Keith: Voting — Correction—Environmental Protection Authority Bill 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18596. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
KEITH LOCKE (Green) 
: 
 I seek leave to correct a mistake that the Green Party made in voting on an amendment to the Environmental Protection Authority Bill yesterday—Rahui Katene’s amendment to include new clause 3A “Treaty of Waitangi (Te Tiriti o Waitangi)” in Part 1. The Green Party accidently cast 9 votes in the negative when the intention was to cast 9 votes in the affirmative. Similarly a mistake was made in the proxy votes for Chris Carter and Hone Harawira. 
Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought to correct that vote. Is there any objection? There is no objection. Leave has been granted. The new vote is Ayes 72 Noes 48. The record will be altered accordingly.
Kaye Nikki: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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11. 
NIKKI KAYE (National—Auckland Central) 
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Minister of Customs 
: What interceptions of Contac NT has the Customs Service achieved in the last month at our border? 
Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (Minister of Customs) 
: 
 Very good news— 
Hon Member 
: Oh! More good news. 
Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON 
: It just keeps coming I know. Customs officers recently intercepted at the border over 112 kilogram of pseudoephedrine-based Contac NT. This was made up of a number of different intercepts with the largest individual one being 67.6 kilograms. This one interception resulted in a number of search warrants being executed at several addresses in Auckland last week by the Customs Service in cooperation with the New Zealand Police. The month-long operation coded named Adrift led to the arrest of three Chinese nationals one of whom was a resident. The other two were in New Zealand on student visas. All three have been charged with participation in an organised criminal group importing a class C controlled drug and possession of a class C drug. 
Nikki Kaye 
: What is the significance of this large individual seizure and the total seizures for the month in the fight against P? 
Hon MAURICE WILLIAMSON 
: It is very significant. At nearly 70 kilograms this is the largest amount of precursor drug used for the manufacture of methamphetamine to be seized this year. It was sufficient to make between 13 and 20 kilograms of methamphetamine which would have had a street value of somewhere between $13 million and $20 million. The interceptions for the month have effectively reduced the amount of manufactured methamphetamine on the streets of New Zealand by somewhere between 22 and 33 kilograms.
King Colin: Dairy Industry Restructuring (New Sunset Provisions) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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[Sitting date: 11 May 2011. Volume:672;Page:18609. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
COLIN KING (National—Kaikoura) 
: 
 It is a pleasure to take a call during the third reading of the Dairy Industry Restructuring (New Sunset Provisions) Amendment Bill. I remember last night we had some great conversations about the sunset provisions and we said that some time ago the Labour Government was actually saying the primary sector was a sunset sector. From that point of view it is very good that we are actually debating here. When listening to all of those speakers we heard the Labour speakers talking about the environmental degradation that dairying is causing we heard the Green speaker talking about farmers gouging prices and making unscrupulous profits and we heard the Maori Party speaker talking similarly. But the point is that unless our farmers are making a profit this country is in pretty poor shape. 
This bill is purely focused on giving certainty in the meantime in relation to provisions tied up in the Dairy Industry Restructuring Act. On that basis we can be very confident that National looks towards research and development and to sciences to address a lot of the problems that confront the primary sector. We are investing many millions of dollars in the Primary Growth Partnership and we are very very proud of the Global Research Alliance on Agricultural Greenhouse Gases which brings together 23 nations to look at solutions that will impact going forward globally. We export 85 percent of what we produce and more often than not as they say the person who pays the piper calls the tune. The fundamental doctrine that this bill is based on is the fact that we want access to various markets. Although we hear a lot of debate about the comparison of Coca-Cola with milk the substance of this bill addresses a lot of our trade access issues. On that basis I have pleasure in supporting this bill.
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12. 
CHRIS HIPKINS (Labour—Rimutaka) 
 to the  
Minister responsible for Ministerial Services 
: Has he now been fully briefed on all of the details regarding the replacement of VIP transport’s BMW fleet; if not why not? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Minister responsible for Ministerial Services) 
: 
 I have received details on the replacement of the fleet where and when appropriate. 
Chris Hipkins 
: Is he aware that 2 days after his chief of staff met with the VIP Transport Service to discuss the upgrade of the VIP fleet the owner of an exclusive new and used BMW dealership in Auckland gave a $50000 donation to the New Zealand National Party? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: I have no responsibility for that. 
Chris Hipkins 
: How can he claim that when only a few weeks earlier he had attended as Prime Minister a client function hosted by the Team McMillan BMW dealership in Auckland which led to the donation? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: Because that is the very reason why contracts subject to the  
Cabinet Manual 
 are made by Ministerial Services—to avoid accusations that would otherwise be levelled of inappropriate conduct. 
Chris Hipkins 
: Would he say that the meeting his chief of staff had with Ministerial Services to talk through the BMW purchase on 28 July last year—just 2 days before the $50000 donation to the National Party—was just a coincidence or more sloppy management of perceived conflicts of interest by his Government? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: I would say that the meeting was very difficult to remember because the chief of staff could not remember it. 
Chris Hipkins 
: Which statement is true: his statement during question time yesterday that he had aggressively reviewed Ministerial Services’ spending line by line to identify all potential savings or his statement during question time on 12 April that he did not know about the BMW upgrade because it had been just one line in a “very large document” that he happened to have signed? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: Both. The member needs to take a lesson from some of the former Ministers in Labour about how ministerial responsibility works and when officials have responsibility. I know that the member is probably very unlikely to become a Minister from what I hear from his colleagues but he should take some advice.
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10. 
CLARE CURRAN (Labour—Dunedin South) 
 to the  
Minister for Communications and Information Technology 
: Has he been advised that the regulatory arrangement around the ultra-fast broadband network will be worth up to $600 million and who will pay for it? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister for Communications and Information Technology) 
: 
 The premise of the member’s question is incorrect. The regulatory package reduces the regulatory risk for bidders so they are able to accept lower margins and therefore offer lower build prices and lower wholesale prices to the benefit of all users. The member has in fact got it exactly the wrong way around. Without regulatory stability and certainty for investors during the crucial build period taxpayers and/or consumers would end up paying significantly more for ultra-fast broadband. As to the amount she mentions a number of figures have been suggested as to what these savings will be and that number is one of them. 
Clare Curran 
: Can he guarantee that retail prices for existing broadband on the copper network will not rise as a result of the Telecommunications (TSO Broadband and Other Matters) Amendment Bill? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: Nobody can guarantee that the retail price of copper will not rise at any time in the future but the pressure will all be downwards because of the competition from the fibre network and because as part of the regulatory changes proposed the unbundled bitstream access product will move from being retail-minus to cost-plus. Many people believe the commission—that it will lead to lower prices. 
Clare Curran 
: Does he accept that the $400 million to $600 million figure to increase broadband coverage will come from the users who are not receiving ultra-fast broadband now? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: No not at all. I really worry about the member’s understanding of the regulatory package’s purpose. It is there to reduce the regulatory risk for bidders so they are able to accept lower margins and therefore lower build prices and lower wholesale prices for the benefit of all users. It is not a case of taking from one set of users and giving to the other. It is about reducing the risk premium so that the margins can come down. The member needs to understand that. 
Clare Curran 
: Has he read his ministry’s report to the select committee on this issue? 
Hon STEVEN JOYCE 
: I am not aware to which report the member is referring. I have read lots of advice from the officials and what I have just told the member is exactly consistent with that advice.
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9. 
KATRINA SHANKS (National) 
 to the  
Acting Minister of Energy and Resources 
: What recent milestones have been celebrated under the Government’s Warm Up New Zealand: Heat Smart scheme? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA (Acting Minister of Energy and Resources) 
: 
 Tena koe Mr Speaker. This morning the Prime Minister cut the ribbon to the 100000th house to have benefited from the Government’s home insulation and clean-heating scheme. [ 
Interruption 
] I am sorry but I do not know what the fun is on that side of the House because the fun is all on this side for the achievement. The Government has allocated $347 million to retrofit at least 188000 homes over 4 years before June 2013. I also want to acknowledge the cooperation of the Green Party with this policy.  
Katrina Shanks 
: What other benefits is the Minister aware of that have come from the Warm Up New Zealand: Heat Smart scheme? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: The Warm Up New Zealand: Heat Smart scheme improves the energy efficiency of homes while making homes warmer drier and healthier. This means lower power bills fewer doctors’ visits and fewer days off work and school. It is very pleasing to see that approximately 55 percent of the retrofitted houses enjoying these benefits are occupied by people on low incomes. In addition to creating energy-efficient healthier homes for New Zealanders the Energy Efficiency and Conservation Authority estimates that about 2000 people will be directly employed under the scheme over its 4-year duration. 
Dr Kennedy Graham 
: Given the huge success of the Warm Up New Zealand: Heat Smart programme a “smart Green” initiative that is good for the economy the environment and the people will her Government commit today to continue funding beyond 2013? 
Hon HEKIA PARATA 
: We are focused on the current programme. We are just over half-way through. We have another 88500 houses yet to be retrofitted for which there is funding.
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KATRINA SHANKS (National) 
: 
 My question is to—[ 
Interruption 
]—the Acting Minister of Energy and— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: On this occasion I ask the Labour front bench to show some courtesy to a member at the back of the House who has a right to ask her primary question. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: Point of order— 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I am not going to hear a point of order on this. The member will resume his seat. I have been very tolerant and I am not going to stand any more nonsense.
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That the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Amendment Bill (No 2) be now read a third time. 
Ayes 68 
New Zealand National 58; ACT New Zealand 5; Maori Party 4; United Future 1. 
Noes 54 
New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C Harawira. 
Bill read a third time.
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3. 
HILARY CALVERT (ACT) 
 to the  
Prime Minister 
: Does he have confidence in all his Ministers; if so why? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister) 
: 
 Yes; because they are talented people who are working hard for New Zealand. I might add we were disappointed to lose one of our Ministers recently but that is the nature of confidence and supply agreements. 
Hilary Calvert 
: Why does he support the position of his Minister for Social Development and Employment of opposing youth rates when since their abolition by the last Labour Government youth unemployment has nearly doubled putting an extra 12000 young people out of jobs? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: I think we all admit that and accept that one of the factors for youth is the rates they are paid. I remember at the time though when youth rates were being phased out long before the law changed quite a number of big employers at that time thought it was a good idea to get rid of them and in fact led the charge on that. 
Hilary Calvert 
: Does he think the statement that youth rates give “employers a reason to hire younger people and give them a chance to get experience.” which was made in December 2007 by National leader John Key is extreme; if not why not? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: No because nothing I say is extreme. 
Hilary Calvert 
: Does he consider it extreme to allow a 16-year-old trainee chef to earn $350 a week or does he think it is more caring to force them to sit at home for $150 a week? 
Rt Hon JOHN KEY 
: I think it is more caring to make sure that they are in work and that is one of the reasons why last week the Government put $55 million into allowing youngsters to be employed with a subsidy of $5000 going into those employers who take on a young person aged 16 to 24 who may have been on a benefit to have training applied to that employee either in the workplace or for a New Zealand Qualifications Authority qualification.