Maipi-Clarke Hana-Rawhiti; Xu-Nan Lawrence; Upston LouiseHANA-RAWHITI MAIPI-CLARKE (Te Pāti Māori—Hauraki-Waikato): I just want to pick up from the last questions that I had asked previously around Schedule 2 and the list of 41 different identified gangs. I'm really really interested in seeking clarity from the Minister: who identifies these gangs? What do you deem as a gang and how is the process of these gangs being identified? I would strongly argue that some of these groups or gangs are not gangs and I would strongly argue that a lot of gangs are actually missing on this list.Some of these groups are I would say wearing a gang patch and driving a motorcycle but they would not be the typical gang behaviour that you would see. So I really want to seek clarity from the Minister: what is the process of getting this list? This list some of these gang groups should not be on here and some gang groups should be on here. So it goes back to the pātai that I asked previously and I just want to quote before I finish. The pātai that I asked previously is around the kupu suspect" and the kupu around stereotyping and the process in getting these gangs on to this list and how you identify them because it goes back to the kupu. I quote "A constable may issue a dispersal notice to a person if the constable has reasonable grounds (a) to suspect that the person (i) is a gang member;" so I just want to seek clarity from the Minister for that gang list. Thank you.Dr LAWRENCE XU-NAN (Green): Thank you Madam Chair. To be consistent with what the previous members have shared I will also confine my contribution to clause 29. I think in this case with clause 29 with the application of the Evidence Act I want to check clarification from the Minister in terms of if he had any consultation—because it's not in the regulatory impact statement—with the District Courts in terms of the application of this particular part.Now the reason I mention in terms of the consultation here is with the application of section 128 of the Evidence Act around the notice of uncontroverted facts it also puts the District Courts in an awkward situation where they are making a call that is potentially contrary to their own independence to their own plan particularly around their current strategy of Te Ao Mārama.So with this particular part one of the things about what the District Court is trying to do and the dilemma that the District Court might be facing in this case is how are they able to implement number one their level of independence but also implement their long-term plan and strategy Te Ao Mārama in light of this particular legislation that's being put through.So I just wanted to check if that work has been done with the District Court because the District Court's strategic plan is very specific [Authorised te reo Māori text to be inserted by the Hansard Office.][Authorised translation to be inserted by the Hansard Office.]the idea of going from the night to the world of light. They're supposed to rehabilitate and redeem people in this and whether this particular section in the greater context of the need to make District Court judges make certain decisions on everything we've discussed in the previous section actually achieves that. Thank you.Hon LOUISE UPSTON (Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector): Thank you Madam Chair. I just want to address the member prior's question around the list of gangs in Schedule 2. So there are criteria that are already specified. When this matter was before the Justice Committee the police did update the list of gangs by adding four separating two and removing several and that list can be amended for Schedule 2 by Order in Council."