Korako NukNUK KORAKO (National): Kia ora e Te Kaiwhakahaere. E mihi atu ki a koe. Absolutely I take previous speaker Peeni Henare's comments around the Te Reo Māori version of the preamble—we are in the Committee stage but you have given quite a broad line on this Mr Chair. I take the points that have been made about the translation. I also want to acknowledge our translators here in Parliament. It is one of the things that the Māori Affairs Committee has actually discussed in quite a lot of detail particularly around the translations themselves—that when we deliberate we actually need to be deliberating the Te Reo Māori version and then also the English version as well to ensure that they all line up. That is just my comment and we have—I am not sure whether I heard it correctly but there will hopefully be an opportunity in the second reading to try to alleviate those difficulties. [Interruption] Oh there will not be? That is unfortunate.The CHAIRPERSON (Hon Trevor Mallard): Just to make it clear to the member we had the second reading on a previous occasion. We are now in the Committee stage so we are past any ability to make any changes to the commentary.NUK KORAKO: Sorry the second reading has already been done and now we are in the Committee stage. Right I take that point.But I want to come back to the comments by Grant Robertson if that is permissible around the Te Reo Māori version. There was a lot of discussion around this and we as the Māori Affairs Committee really did want to see a dual-language bill. When we looked at it though there had only been two such pieces of legislation to date and they had actually been Government legislation. The first one was the Mokomoko legislation and the second one of course was the Te Reo Māori legislation. When this opportunity came up we definitely wanted to take advantage of it and try to have the bill in both languages but when we looked into the practicality part of it it was not pragmatic at all particularly when we took advice from PCO. If we were to have gone down that track it would then have actually held up the bill quite considerably.That was what we wanted to discuss with the board as well because practicality-wise the board wanted to get this bill through but there is an opportunity later on to be able to re-present it as a dual-language bill. If I could just quote a couple of things the first part of this is about the practical difficulties of amending legislation in English by amending an Act in Te Reo Māori and English. That is the first part of it but I think a Standing Order was quoted: Under Standing Order 264 a bill that is the same in substance as a bill that was received or was defeated on a first second or third reading may not be proposed in the same calendar year as the original bill. This would mean that the new bill could not be introduced until 2017. This would delay the reforms in a way that may not be desirable for the board." This was something that we got information on from the Ministry of Justice and PCO and that is why we then made the decision.It goes on: "Also if the board wants an Act in both languages we consider that a better approach would be for the current bill to be enacted in English alone in the meantime. This would allow the board to operate under the new provisions as quickly as possible. The board could then prepare a new private bill in both languages." We took this information on board and trying to be as pragmatic as possible we then decided that the best way forward—because the board also did not want this to be held up—was to enact this legislation in English and then if there is the possibility later further on down the track in Te Reo Māori.The other thing that we discussed which I think is important as well is that whenever—so the select committee is doing Government bills at the moment. We have done two Government bills but probably something that we need to look at moving forward is that with private bills—right at the beginning they could flag the fact that they would like their bill in Te Reo Māori as well. Doing that right from the beginning makes it a lot easier to implement legislation in both languages. That is just answering the question of why when we took this bill through unfortunately we could not do it as a dual-language one. We decided in the interests of keeping the thing moving and getting the bill into legislation so that the board could implement those changes. That is a lot more practical. Kia ora."