Mallard Trevor: Urgent Debates — Hon Peter Dunne—Report on Investigation of Review of Compliance Leak and Resignation as MinisterText is incorporated into the Bound VolumeMallard Trevor: Urgent Debates — Hon Peter Dunne—Report on Investigation of Review of Compliance Leak and Resignation as Minister[Sitting date: 11 June 2013. Volume:691;Page:10927. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South):I want to make a few brief comments on this matter. The first one I want to make is that we still do not know for sure who leaked this document. The next point I would like to make is that if this inquiry was properly set up or in fact—I want to say—if Mr Henry did his job properly we would know. The Prime Minister could have asked the State Services Commissioner to set up this inquiry. At that point the inquirer would have effectively used the Commissions of Inquiry Act and the powers thereof in order to take evidence under oath. The Prime Minister chose not to do that. But even then Mr Henry could have come back to the Prime Minister and asked the Prime Minister for extra powers and for it to be properly set up so I do want to somewhat criticise Mr Henry for his approach.The other thing that Mr Henry could have done because these were emails to and from a Minister is to ask Mr Dunne to release them under the Official Information Act. These documents—these electronic documents—if there is anything to do with his roleas a Minister within them are subject to the Official Information Act and most of us are pretty sure that they will eventually come out. In fact I would be very surprised if there were not half a dozen new agencies and a number of members of Parliament who have already asked Ministerial Services for these emails under the Official Information Act.Hon Gerry Brownlee: All traffic?Hon TREVOR MALLARD: Well if a journalist writes to a Minister by email then that journalist knows that that email is subject to the Official Information Act. If someone went to Miss Vance’s in-box and took an email out of there that would be wrong. But something that is received by a Minister and more important the messages that were sent by a Minister are also subject to the Official Information Act and eventually they will come out.I want to contrast that with the case that that Prime Minister keeps on bringing up to do with my colleague the Hon Phil Goff. Phil Goff received documents that had been leaked. They were sent or given to him. Mr Goff has made it clear that if the Prime Minister puts Dunne under oath then Mr Goff will release all relevant emails—he will release all relevant emails—and give access to ensuring that all relevant emails are released. But what do I hear from the Prime Minister? Not a word. Not a word from the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister did not have—we are not allowed to say “balls” are we? He did not have the—Grant Robertson: Intestinal fortitude.Hon TREVOR MALLARD: —we are not allowed to say that either—spine to stand up in this debate. He did not have the spine to stand up in this debate and to try to justify his position.Hon Chester Borrows: I raise apoint of order Mr Speaker. The member used a term to describe the Prime Minister that is unparliamentary.Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member made a lot of insinuations and I guess the extension of those is that they were unparliamentary but he kind of I think stopped short. When we are talking about skeletal matters if that is what the member was referring to that has been used in this House before. I am not sure whether that makes it right or wrong. I would certainly prefer not to see it used.Hon Gerry Brownlee: Mr Speaker.Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Did you want to help Mr Brownlee?Hon Gerry Brownlee: I think you have quite rightly identified the bound between what might have been totally offensive and otherwise. I understand the case that you were speaking of before. It was where a former Prime Minister accused the Leader of the Opposition of being a spine looking for a chill to run up—Hon Members: A shiver.Hon Gerry Brownlee: —a shiver to run up. It is the sort of description that could be offered to the current Leader of the Opposition.Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Let us just park it all and say let us keep to the debate all right?Hon TREVOR MALLARD: Helen Clark Jim Bolger Rob Muldoon and David Lange in this circumstance would be on their feet and defending their position and I want to know why John Key is not defending his but I think I do know. I think I do. It is because he will not defend the indefensible. There is a stink coming from the cross benches. There is a stink coming from over there. There is something rotten. There is Banks and there is Dunne and they are the ones who are holding this Government together: the man who is in and out of the dock regularly for getting brown paper bags full of money during his mayoral campaign and Peter Dunne who will not tell the truthin these matters. This Government is being held together by a pair of individuals who stink and should not be in this Parliament.