Tuiono Teanau; O'Connor Damien; O'Connor GregTEANAU TUIONO (Green): Thank you Mr Chair. First of all I'd like to acknowledge the Minister's work in terms of shepherding through the Organic Products and Production Bill. That was something that was widely celebrated around the organics community and in particular from us here as the Greens as well. Yes good things take time like the old man in the cheese ad says but this one finally got over the line.But my questions are around just kind of dropping down in terms of that regulation space in terms of the work that the Minister has done to support that sector around standard-setting around education possibly but also around putting in that support to actually help the organics sector to realise the economic opportunities but also stepping back from that recognising that when you work well with the land what that means in terms of the climate crisis that we're living in at the moment.On top of that I was wondering if the Minister could also talk to us a bit about that time period between now and when the floods hit in Hawke's Bay—as someone who lives on this side of the Ruahines I saw the tonne of water coming down—and acknowledge that there needs to be a lot of work done to support farmers to support the producers and growers as well and the sort of work that he could be doing within that space in terms of supporting farmers to become more climate-resilient but also looking at that mitigation space as well.Hon DAMIEN O'CONNOR (Minister of Agriculture): Firstly I'll just get up and acknowledge that actually agriculture's probably the least partisan of any issues across this Parliament. I acknowledge that support for the primary sectors from most MPs in this House. As I say through the Primary Production Committee I think there's a whole lot of really good work and all the members have spoken.Briefly on a couple of the issues raised: the organic legislation that we passed was our best attempt and it was a request from the sector to say that we need some consistency so that when we go into different markets people trust our brand. I think it was a huge step forward. It will offer some certainty for the organic growers.In terms of education two of the things that I think we are very proud of are Taratahi and Telford two training establishments that have a long history a proud history of bringing many people in. I heard last night that Telford had trained a number of the dairy industry winners—quite proud of that. These are people who started went through these establishments—but they kind of ran amok and I have to say it was the previous Government that tried to merge them and muck around with them and they failed and now we've been picking them up and trying to get them up and running again. What is taught is different now. What needs to be taught is different and so we're working through the reforms—Te Ara Paerangi. They're working through different programmes to ensure that what we do put up in front of these young people is relevant to both their employers but also to the future needs that they may be faced with.I think that one of the things that was discussed—and I accept the previous speaker's reference to in the US the farmers having these things imposed upon them by the states. Can I say that the reason for that is not because any legislators like to impose stuff on farmers; it's that there's a need for them. Just as it's happening in the US and farmers are struggling to understand it the same thing is happening here. But there was a lot of talk of regenerative agriculture. For the most part most New Zealand farmers actually operate a regenerative system—rotational pastoral grazing and looking after the soil and not being in such a scale as to destroy the values. That's something that is an opportunity for us if we move forward with that.Can I come back to the questions from the member there. It is through new innovative ways of using our soil protecting our water and looking after our livestock and our people that actually we can be quite proud of the values that drive our agricultural systems. Those are the opportunities or they create the base of opportunities for our country into the future.CHAIRPERSON (Greg O'Connor): Joseph Mooney—just a warning that National have four minutes and 44 seconds.