Mooney JosephJOSEPH MOONEY (National—Southland): Thank you very much Madam Chair. Minister I just want to ask you another question on Schedule 1 just in terms of clause 1(1) where it says All proceedings or any other matters involving the Commission that are yet to be determined or completed at the commencement of this clause are to be determined or completed by the Ministry as if the Ministry were the Commission." Now my understanding is that this is the Ministry of Regulation and—no? Well I stand to be corrected on that. But if I could have that clarified that would be useful.I would just say related to that Minister just the purpose which was touched on a little bit earlier in some detail by the Minister but just in terms of how that relates to the intention behind repealing this bill. I say this from the perspective of small businesses—the majority of businesses in this country are small businesses—and someone who comes from a background of small business before I became a lawyer. Actually that's what got me into studying law because I was one of those people who was building businesses employing people working until 2 o'clock in the morning and then trying to figure out how to comply with legislation. So I know from lived experience the reality of how important regulation is and how that can actually constrain the activity the mental capacity and the ability for business owners to actually develop something that can employ people help them put food on the table provide something useful to this country and give people a chance to get ahead.In fact most small-business owners as I was spend most of their time being largely unpaid effectively for much of the work that they do so that they can actually employ their staff and give them that opportunity in the hope that they can build something eventually for themselves and their families that will last the test of time and effectively give them an opportunity going forwards.But the experience I had from that is that effectively good regulation good law is the DNA of our society so if we have good regulation and good law that creates a good body politic a good society and if we don't have it particularly effective then it doesn't. So the question here is: how is this going to ensure that we help address the productivity problems that have been identified for decades in this country? The Productivity Commission was initially set up to try to identify them but here we are in 2024 with more regulation more challenges.I represent the great area of Southland where we have heard at length for the last three years about unworkable regulation. I have talked to hundreds probably thousands of people in the farming sector who have spent a huge amount of their time trying to figure out how to actually run their farms but at the same time comply with regulations that are changing at such a rapid pace and with such complexity that their sector bodies can't keep up let alone the mum and dad farmers who are taking care of their land taking care of their animals and taking care of the environment. But again the many many many small businesses in New Zealand that form the backbone of our country provide a huge amount of employment for New Zealanders those small-business owners are spending so much of their time trying to deal with this regulation.So just the intention of this bill—how is that going to ensure these people we're talking about these small-business owners around the country are going to see some relief at the light at the end of the tunnel?"