Reti ShaneDr SHANE RETI (National—Whangarei): Thank you Madam Speaker. It's a pleasure to speak to this Smoke-free Environments (Prohibiting Smoking in Motor Vehicles Carrying Children) Amendment Bill that I—and that we—will be supporting. I want to thank the last speaker Jenny Marcroft for her traverse of the international scenarios. I thought that was particularly good. I wanted to initially cover just very briefly Part 1 and Part 1A and then talk to a part of this that particularly interests me. I recall in 2016-17 being lobbied by one of the Northland schools who eventually brought a petition down here and I'll come back to that shortly. But Part 1 clearly just says Look with our other pieces of legislation workplaces employee and passenger vehicles—this bill applies to children in those environments as well." It's Part 1A that's kind of interesting what I'll call the application criteria. First we note it's relevant to children under 18. Secondly the vehicle needs to be moving or stationary. And thirdly it needs to be on a road which got me looking through this afternoon thinking "Crikey what is the definition of a road?" Well it turns out it actually picks up car parks beaches wharves river beds bridges. So I think most of the definitions of a road—there is some difference between a driveway and a road where driveway meets a road but maybe that comes into the part that my colleague was talking about about where we start to encroach on the sovereignty of the home and the sovereignty of the individual. The Hon Mike Woodhouse also commented on the odd parts to this bill the clauses that talk about a lack of application to those under 18 and the only occupant in a car and where a vehicle is used as a dwelling. I think my colleague covered that off. This bill doesn't take the opportunity to comment on vaping and the opportunities that might present. I think it could and might have and maybe this select committee will reflect on that also. The regulatory impact statement clearly identified the health benefits: decreased hospital admissions decreased asthma and decreased glue ear—otitis media with effusion. We know that there's a relationship between smoking and the glue ear that children get which prevents them from hearing. The regulatory impact statement also talks about the evidence which they call "medium" and I'm aware there's some level of controversy around whether this is really strong or whether it's anecdotal almost but it's referred to here as "medium" which in my view is probably a good summary. I was particularly interested in page 8 where they talk about the degree of harm. They comment here that smoking in a vehicle even when the vehicle has the air conditioning on or where the window is halfway down still has a significant amount of contaminants in it and they reference a New Zealand Medical Journal article saying that where the smoking has occurred in a car it's similar to being in a smoky pub. I think what interested me was some of their references because a situation that particularly sticks in my mind from the school children in Northland in 2016—they were coming from a Blue Light enterprise with the Relay for Life and as part of that their mission was to get signatures and survey views from the audience in Relay for Life around second-hand smoking in cars for children. They presented that to me and in fact I brought that here to the Prime Minister of the day as I recall. The part that really stuck in my mind that they pointed out to me was third-hand smoking or residues. The regulatory impact statement refers to that and refers to a 2008 paper which I think is particularly interesting because what this paper did was look at vehicles that smokers had been in and smokers hadn't been in—second-hand vehicles—and they did surface wipes they did an assessment of the dust and air samples and clearly found a difference in all of those in vehicles where there'd been smokers and non-smokers.If they looked at where a vehicle had been a smoking vehicle and the person had banned smoking not smoked in it for a number of years they didn't get the air contaminants but there were still significant residual nicotine and other contaminants on the surface wipe and in the dust. This is the third-hand smoking if you like or the residual contaminants making the case that when you smoke in a car it permeates the leather it permeates the seats it permeates the seals round the windows and you may stop smoking in that car but those contaminants will continue to leach. I think this is a really really important area of second-hand smoking in cars. Clearly the primary firsthand effect and the second-hand effect we're aware of and this is referred to as the third-hand effect.So those are some of the things that we'll explore in select committee. Again I want to acknowledge the petition from the Northland school that came towards the House of Parliament in 2016 was received here in 2017 and I look forward to this going to select committee for further exploration and hopefully our support. Thank you."