Dean JacquiHARETE HIPANGO (National): I rise as a member of the National Party and also I have the responsibility as spokesperson for Māori development. My colleague Joseph Mooney as the Treaty settlement spokesperson has addressed the House initially. In my role as the lead on the Māori Affairs Committee for the National Party accompanied by my colleague and cognisant of my role in terms of Māori development I take this call with trepidation because there were a number of developments that were exposed and revealed to we members on the Māori Affairs Committee. These developments the journey of Ngāti Kahungunu over a period of 30 years to arrive today the 22nd of the 11th month of the year 2022—now if anybody follows numerology which I don't there has to be something significant in that with this being the second reading—another development.So in the short call I have there's a lot to traverse and I'll try and encapsulate that with the trepidation that I stand here in addressing the House. The National Party caucus supports this bill going through acknowledging Ngāti Kahungunu's journey of 30 years. I know what this Treaty settlement negotiations process does to our people. Being of W'anganui—the W'anganui River claim being the longest litigated case in terms of a Māori settlement having gone through the courts having gone through negotiations with respective tribunals negotiations with the Crown and 128 years later—in the year 2017 I stood as a member of W'anganui tribal peoples up in the gallery at the third reading and the passage of our Te Awa Tupua (Whanganui River Claims Settlement) Bill into law. So I know full well the anguish the anxiety the mamae the hurt the history and the journey that our people go on and I acknowledge Ngāti Kahungunu for that. However mixed up in the turmoil of that journey because the process that the Crown invokes and requires of our people to participate in to arrive at a negotiated settlement creates division and creates divisiveness—and when I rose and took a call last week on the Te Rohe o Rongokako Joint Redress Bill I talked about the process where the Crown requires the interested parties to go into a process of negotiation with the Crown in having to compromise on significant aspects and elements of getting to settlement. The Crown facilitates negotiation; the Crown does not facilitate a process of mediation for the divisiveness that's created amongst the interest groups. Our whānau our hapū our tribal people who all whakapapa are actually arguing and negotiating a better position for their particular interests so I acknowledge Ngāti Kahungunu.I also acknowledge the claimants of Wai 85 the Wairarapa Moana ki Pouākani Incorporation and the claimants of Wai 429 Ngāi Tūmapūhia-ā-Rangi who put their case and their claims to the Waitangi Tribunal and the tribunal ruled and said that Ngāti Kahungunu did not have the necessary mandate from the two claimant groups of Wai 85 and Wai 429. As a result of that that mamae the raruraru the conflict the tension the hurt that's been created from that—because the Crown requires negotiating with a large natural grouping who has been identified who in this settlement bill is Ngāti Kahungunu. The Crown has also seen fit that this bill is going to be progressed in advance through the House whilst there are Supreme Court proceedings extant that have been brought by Wai 85 Wairarapa Moana ki Pouākani Incorporation.Now there have been different levels and layers and complexities of this journey for this bill. I've heard the Minister address the reasons that it is in the public interest for this bill to progress. I have also heard the Minister of Justice in this House merely two weeks ago stress the importance of I can confirm that this side of the House the Government the executive understands the separation of powers. I can confirm that we the executive have the obligation to administer legislative tools and that we understand principles of comity." So that has been one of the perplexing conflicting issues that we as members on the Māori Affairs Committee have had to deal with. One second left—I'll address the House further at the third reading; the National Party is supporting this bill thus far.ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jacqui Dean): I call Debbie Ngarewa-Packer—five minutes."