Brewer Cameron; Kuriger BarbaraCAMERON BREWER (National—Upper Harbour): Oh geez! Oh my giddy aunt! What are we actually looking at here? We just heard from a previous Green Party speaker that most New Zealanders would prefer to walk into a dark alleyway and come across a patched gang member than a police officer. This is the parallel universe we're dealing with here. Some of us come out of the community and then into Wellington and hear these debates. Well if the Green Party are convinced of that they should test that by way of public opinion. They should put that out as a postcard or an email as to who New Zealanders would prefer to walk into down a dark alley.Then we heard from the previous Labour member Let's start the talk as to what really works." and something about "Let's have a conversation." Well this is coming from a senior former Minister in the Labour Party that had six years in power with an absolute majority—65 MPs—and now they are telling us nine months into Opposition that we should start the conversation as to what really works. Well I'll tell you what worked under them: over the past five years gangs recruited more than 3000 members; a 51 percent increase. While they were having the conversation which they still want to continue that is their track record.Ingrid Leary: Where's your evidence? Give us your evidence of what's going to work. CAMERON BREWER: At the same time we have seen a significant escalation in gang-related violence in public intimidation in shootings with violent crime up 33 percent retail crime youth crime and they say "Show us your evidence." Well I think I'm quite happy to come out with all the empirical evidence that has been well tabled and well released by the New Zealand Police but again "Oh no let's not elevate the police; let's elevate the status of gang members." That is the whole modus operandi of over the way: elevating the status of gang members. They haven't told us and perhaps we need to ask them how they got those patches that these people across the way—Labour Greens and Te Pāti Māori—are happy to defend: elevate the status of people who have only peddled misery in our communities. They had their chance over six years with frankly at the time one of the most popular Prime Ministers who could have got anyone to eat anything out of her hand. They had that. They had 65 MPs an absolute majority and they squandered it. All we saw was crime go up crime go up crime go up and that's all we saw.So it now comes to this Government to not only inherit an economic mess but to inherit law and order in quite a state. They say "Oh you're just doing this for political reasons." No our agenda: whether it's economic law and order health and education guess what! When you do the polling—Labour does the polling too—what's the number one issue? Economy cost of living inflation.Hon Peeni Henare: Come back to the bill.Ingrid Leary: What's in the bill? What's the legislation that you want to put forward to the House?CAMERON BREWER: Number two: law and order health and education.OK well let's talk about the bill then. Let's go back to the bill because the previous speaker Mr Webb got into the weeds and I'll just remind the viewing public as to what the bill actually offers up as far as its provisions. It prohibits the display of gang insignia in public places it empowers police to issue dispersal notices that require specified gang members to leave a public place and not associate in public for seven days it creates a new non-consorting order that prohibits association and communication between specific gang members for three years and it amends the Sentencing Act 2002 to make gang membership an aggravating factor at sentencing.This is something that New Zealanders want us to crack down on up and down the country. The Green Party the Opposition think that New Zealanders would rather walk into a dark alley and come across a patched gang member than a sworn constable. That's how far they have lost reality. Frankly that's how long they are going to stay in the Opposition defending gang members at this rate. I support the second reading of the Gangs Legislation Amendment Bill and I look forward to further discussion. Thank you.DEPUTY SPEAKER: This is a split call. I call Arena Williams."