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Ardern Shane: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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SHANE ARDERN (National—Taranaki - King Country) 
 to the  
Minister of Health 
: What reports has he received on this quarter’s national health targets? 
Hon TONY RYALL (Minister of Health) 
: 
 The latest quarterly report released today shows that district health boards have achieved four of the national health targets this quarter and made improvements in the other two. The results show that 95 percent of hospitalised patients who smoke were offered support to quit in the last quarter of last year which means we have achieved this national health target for the first time. Our district health boards have performed nearly 4000 more operations than planned and once again we are well on the way to exceeding the target of increasing elective surgery volumes for New Zealanders by at least 4000 discharges a year. 
Shane Ardern 
: What other progress can he report on the Government’s national health targets? 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: There has been an increase to 93 percent of patients admitted discharged or treated in emergency departments within 6 hours which is an improvement compared with the last quarter in the same time last year. The national immunisation coverage of 8-month-olds increased by 2 percent and the rates for Maori and Pacific increased by 5 percent and 3 percent respectively. The Government is committed to protecting and growing the New Zealand public health service and we are seeing more high-priority front-line services being delivered as a result of the Government’s $14.1 billion investment in health this year. 
Hon Annette King 
: Will he give a guarantee that no district health board is manipulating his 6-hour target for patients being admitted discharged or transferred from an emergency department—for example by putting patients into other units so that the clock does not start when the patient actually arrives at the emergency department? 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: Look if you put that bluster aside what I would be very clear to that member— 
Hon Annette King 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. It was a very straight question with no bluster and that is no way to start an answer. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I agree. If the Minister could address a very clear question that has been asked I would be grateful. 
Hon TONY RYALL 
: I am regularly assured that district health boards know that the Government’s very clear message to them is that we do not expect anyone to game the target. But I can tell that member that I am surprised she asks a question on emergency departments. When she was Minister of Health— 
Hon Annette King 
: I raise a point of order Mr Speaker. Apart from the fact that it was a straight question to the Minister on his performance he did not answer whether he would give a guarantee. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I am ruling that the Minister adequately addressed the question.
Goldsmith Paul: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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PAUL GOLDSMITH (National) 
: 
 I rise to speak in favour of the Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill. I appreciate that it is one that arouses great passion in the House. Suffice to say I do not agree with the notion that democracy has been abandoned. It is appropriate that central government steps in when a failure has occurred at a council and failure certainly did occur at Environment Canterbury. It was ranked worst out of 84 councils in New Zealand and a review group stated that the institutional failure at Environment Canterbury required “comprehensive and rapid intervention on the part of central government to … enhance both regional and national well-being.” So we did have a failure. Commissioners were installed and they have done an excellent job under the stewardship of Dame Margaret Bazley. This bill gives them time to finish the job and on that basis I support it. Thank you. 
Hon Ruth Dyson 
: Mr Speaker.
Mallard Trevor: Business Statement 
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Mallard Trevor: Business Statement 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I have three questions and a couple of them are related. We understand that there is some relatively urgent legislation in the name of Mr Williamson. Is it proposed that that be introduced in the next sitting week? Related to that does the Minister intend to share a copy of that legislation with other parties soon? The other unrelated question is to check who is the Minister for Primary Industries as far as House duty today is concerned?
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! Leave is sought to hold this question over. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is. The member can ask his question.
Cosgrove Clayton: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour) 
: 
 I seek leave to have this question held over until the Minister for State Owned Enterprises is present in the Chamber. I am also advised that my colleague the health spokesperson would also like the—
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 On the matter of the bill that might be coming through from the Minister for Building and Construction that is currently being written. As soon as it is written it will be circulated so that other parties can see what is in it. It is a small validation bill and at that point we can discuss an appropriate time for it to come into the House. On the matter of the Minister acting on behalf of the Minister for Primary Industries today I am not familiar with who that is but I will have someone phone the member in a few minutes to keep him up to date with exactly who will be representing the Government’s very strong position in that particular portfolio.
Brownlee Gerry: Business Statement 
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Next week the House is in a 1-week adjournment. When the House resumes on Tuesday 12 March the Government will look to progress the Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill the Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 2) and the Minimum Wage (Starting-out Wage) Amendment Bill. Wednesday 13 March is a members’ day.
Business Statement 
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Thursday 28 February 2013 
Mr Speaker 
 took the Chair at 2 p.m. 
Prayers 
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Business Statement 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Next week the House is in a 1-week adjournment. When the House resumes on Tuesday 12 March the Government will look to progress the Appropriation (2011/12 Financial Review) Bill the Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 2) and the Minimum Wage (Starting-out Wage) Amendment Bill. Wednesday 13 March is a members’ day. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I have three questions and a couple of them are related. We understand that there is some relatively urgent legislation in the name of Mr Williamson. Is it proposed that that be introduced in the next sitting week? Related to that does the Minister intend to share a copy of that legislation with other parties soon? The other unrelated question is to check who is the Minister for Primary Industries as far as House duty today is concerned? 
Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 On the matter of the bill that might be coming through from the Minister for Building and Construction that is currently being written. As soon as it is written it will be circulated so that other parties can see what is in it. It is a small validation bill and at that point we can discuss an appropriate time for it to come into the House. On the matter of the Minister acting on behalf of the Minister for Primary Industries today I am not familiar with who that is but I will have someone phone the member in a few minutes to keep him up to date with exactly who will be representing the Government’s very strong position in that particular portfolio.
Tisch Lindsay: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading 
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Tisch Lindsay: Student Loan Scheme Amendment Bill (No 2) — Second Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Sorry to interrupt the honourable member. Her time has expired.
Robertson H V Ross: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Robertson H V Ross: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Order! Order! Both of the members know and they have been here long enough that you cannot interject during a vote being taken. I will repeat that it amounts to intimidation and a member could find himself before the Privileges Committee.
Reserve Bank of New Zealand (Covered Bonds) Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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Reserve Bank of New Zealand (Covered Bonds) Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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Reserve Bank of New Zealand (Covered Bonds) Amendment Bill 
Second Reading 
Debate resumed from 21 February. 
LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupo) 
: 
 My colleagues on this side of the House who spoke before me spoke very ably on the Reserve Bank of New Zealand (Covered Bonds) Amendment Bill so I am proud to support it in this reading. 
Bill read a second time.
Vote: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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[Sitting date: 27 February 2013. Volume:687;Page:8313. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 2 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 51 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Clause 2 as amended agreed to.
Yang Jian: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Yang Jian: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 27 February 2013. Volume:687;Page:8312. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Dr JIAN YANG (National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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A party vote was called for on the question that the question be now put.
Vote: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That schedule 1 as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 51 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Schedule 1 as amended agreed to.
Vote: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 27 February 2013. Volume:687;Page:8305. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That schedule 1A as amended be agreed to. 
Ayes 69 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1; Independent: Horan. 
Noes 51 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Maori Party 2; Mana 1. 
Schedule 1A as amended agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Sorry the Ayes have it? 
Chris Hipkins 
: The Noes have it. Party vote called for. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 181 in the name of the Hon Peter Dunne to schedule 1A be agreed to.
Robertson H V Ross: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Robertson H V Ross: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Can I ask the honourable member Brendan Horan whether he wishes to vote. We have just called him to vote. 
Brendan Horan 
: Yes. One vote opposed. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: One vote opposed. [ 
Interruption 
] Order! Can I just remind members that during the course of a vote there is supposed to be silence. In fact any conversations across the Chamber can be seen as intimidation and could well lead to a breach of privilege. I call the honourable member Brendan Horan just to explain to him that what the vote was on was that Part 2 as amended stand part. 
Brendan Horan 
: Yes thank you. I was watching on television and was rushing to get here so I was aware despite the squawking of those— 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Order! I can just tell the member that when that happens it is effectively a point of order and he should be terse and to the point. Thank you.
Robertson H V Ross: Child Support Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: The question is that the question be now put. As many of that opinion will please say Aye to the contrary No. The Ayes have it? 
Chris Hipkins 
: A party vote is called for. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: A party vote is being called for. Will the Clerk please conduct a party vote for Mr Hipkins. 
Chris Hipkins 
: No for democracy. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: For democracy OK. Let us carry it out for democracy.
Vote: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That clause 3 be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1. 
Clause 3 agreed to. 
Bill to be reported without amendment presently.
Vote: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 26 February 2013. Volume:687;Page:8227. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 2 be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1. 
Part 2 agreed to.
Sage Eugenie: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Sage Eugenie: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 26 February 2013. Volume:687;Page:8231. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
EUGENIE SAGE (Green) 
: 
 What a misnomer of a title: the Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill. A much more accurate title for the bill would be the “Environment Canterbury (Denial of Democracy and More Irrigation) Bill”. The earthquakes in Christchurch would be a reason why democracy— 
Progress reported. 
Report adopted.
Ross Jami-Lee: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Ross Jami-Lee: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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JAMI-LEE ROSS (Junior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move that clauses 1 to 3 be taken as one debate. Do I seek leave for that?
Tisch Lindsay: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: We have an amendment in the name of Eugenie Sage to repeal sections 46 to 59 as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 176. This amendment is out of order as being outside the scope of the bill. Just for the member’s sake in future if a member wishes to move an amendment that is outside the scope it has to be done by way of an instruction and I refer the member to Standing Order 173. That might help in the future if you want to do something outside the scope of the bill.
Tisch Lindsay: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Tisch Lindsay: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: We now come to clauses 1 to 3. I just remind members that they are very narrow tight debates specifically on what the clauses relate to. 
Hon Ruth Dyson 
: Is it just one debate for all three? 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Well no at the moment they are separate but if you want to move—oh sorry. The question is that clauses 1 to 3 stand part.
Gilmore Aaron: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Gilmore Aaron: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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AARON GILMORE (National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Hayes John: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Hayes John: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
[Sitting date: 26 February 2013. Volume:687;Page:8223. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
JOHN HAYES (National—Wairarapa) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Roy Eric: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Order! The speech is terminated. I have cautioned the member.
Wagner Nicky: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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NICKY WAGNER (National—Christchurch Central) 
: 
 It is my pleasure to speak to this bill today the Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill and particularly to talk about Part 2 because Part 2 focuses on the ministerial review that must be heard before 1 March 2014. 
In this bill it is quite clear what that ministerial review will cover. First of all it covers the governance structure of Environment Canterbury. This means we can have a discussion about that governance structure and it has been interesting to hear the discussion here tonight. It is an open discussion that can be had by the people of Canterbury. The bill also discusses the membership of Environment Canterbury and Environment Canterbury’s powers and functions. 
It was particularly interesting listening to Mr Clayton Cosgrove about the submissions on this bill. There were only three submissions on this part of the bill and those three submissions all supported the idea of a review so we had three submissions in support of this part of the bill. The inclusion of clause 5 reflects the intention to transition the regional governance of Canterbury back to democracy and to identify the best long-term governance solutions for the Canterbury region. The bill did not seek to specify the process so that process will have to be worked through or to limit its scope but you can be assured that the review will be comprehensive. 
So I think what we have been discussing tonight in Part 2 is the importance of this review the fact that it will be held by 1 March 2014 and the fact that it will be comprehensive. I commend this bill to the Committee.
Gilmore Aaron: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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AARON GILMORE (National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Young Jonathan: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Vote: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That Part 1 be agreed to. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1. 
Part 1 agreed to.
Vote: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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Vote: Environment Canterbury (Temporary Commissioners and Improved Water Management) Amendment Bill — In Committee 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be now put. 
Ayes 64 
New Zealand National 59; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 56 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Mana 1. 
Motion agreed to.
Tisch Lindsay: Corrections Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am sorry to interrupt the honourable member her time has expired.
Tisch Lindsay: Corrections Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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Tisch Lindsay: Corrections Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am sorry to interrupt the honourable member. Her time has expired.
McKelvie Ian: Corrections Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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[Sitting date: 26 February 2013. Volume:687;Page:8199. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
IAN McKELVIE (National—Rangitikei) 
: 
 It is a great pleasure for me to speak on the third reading of the Corrections Amendment Bill. I do not need to deal in too much fact as I have had some very auspicious previous speakers who have done that for me. It is the first opportunity I have had to open the batting after a break and I guess I am going to last about as long as the New Zealand openers often do unfortunately. But I just want to talk about a couple of the previous speakers very briefly. It amazes me that we had 9 years of Labour Government. It did nothing about this sector other than fill the prisons up and it is now blaming the Government and saying it has all of the answers—I am surprised it did not use them at the time. I think that is the first point I wanted to make. 
National came to the Government benches some 4 years ago aspiring to provide for a safer New Zealand to deliver better public services to all New Zealanders and to improve our quality of life. An efficient and effective corrections system is the catalyst for the first of these and the result of the second. The Government has a target to reduce reoffending by some 25 percent by 2017. Having been through the select committee consideration of this bill I am encouraged to believe that this is achievable. 
I also believe that further improvement under the current Department of Corrections management is very achievable. It is achievable because of a heavy investment in education and training of both prisoners and prison staff and the introduction of GPS technology allowing low-security prisoners who would previously not have been able to take part in some of those outside work and training to do so. 
Much has been made by the Opposition of the strip-search conditions in this bill and in a very graphic fashion as well. I must say I found the process a little testing myself until I understood the issues that these prisons face with the smuggling of both contraband drugs and indeed weapons into the prisons. Certainly these strip-searching clauses are needed in this bill. The provisions of this bill have been well covered by my predecessors as I have said and I am confident like my chair of the Law and Order Committee Jacqui Dean and my Minister of Corrections Anne Tolley that this bill goes a long way toward having an efficient and effective corrections service that will take New Zealand into the future. Thank you.
Macindoe Tim: Corrections Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West) 
: 
 We have had several cricketing analogies since the dinner adjournment and although a few of the previous speakers expressed a degree of uncertainty about their batting ability I can say with absolute confidence that I will not be troubling the scorers. There have been times when you Mr Assistant Speaker Tisch have raised your finger before to indicate that my innings is over but it is not going to happen now. I simply want to indicate my support for this Corrections Amendment Bill. I want to thank both those who have contributed to a constructive debate and in particular those who have worked hard on the bill. It is a significant piece of legislation. I want to acknowledge in particular those who work in our corrections system. It is a demanding job. It is one that many would shy away from but by and large we are very well served in this country by those who work in our Department of Corrections. I thank them and I want to put that on record. I believe that this bill will further enhance public safety. It has measures that I believe will reduce reoffending and I fully support it.
Vote: Corrections Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Corrections Amendment Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 70 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 2 (Flavell Turia); ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 50 
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; Maori Party 1 (Sharples); Mana 1. 
Bill read a third time.
Goldsmith Paul: Child Support Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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[Sitting date: 26 February 2013. Volume:687;Page:8186. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
PAUL GOLDSMITH (National) 
: 
 It is my pleasure to take a short call in favour of this bill the Child Support Amendment Bill. I have not been fortunate enough to be a member of the Social Services Committee which dealt with this bill but naturally I have a great interest in its subject. I was shocked when reading the details here that apparently as kids get older they become more expensive. As a father of four relatively young kids I think I am ruined. I cannot believe they could be more expensive than they are at the moment but apparently it gets worse. That is very sobering reading. 
What is it to be a good citizen in this country? I think the starting point surely must be looking after yourself and your family. That is the starting point of what it is to be a good citizen and it is not optional; it is fundamental. It is a right that is appropriately asserted in legislation. Not everybody will be able to do it but most can and most should and that is what fundamentally we are all about as a civil society. 
We have heard a lot about child poverty in relation to this bill. I read the report of the Children’s Commissioner’s Expert Advisory Group on Solutions to Child Poverty over the summer and it was interesting to note that it made it clear that the group of children suffering the highest rates of poverty were those who live with an unemployed sole parent. But nowhere do we have the question asked that fundamental question of whether the welfare State that we have inherited is generating more or fewer sole parent households and whether there is anything we can do about it. I think that is the broader question that we need to be dealing with but it is not one that is particularly dealt with by this piece of legislation which I want to draw a little bit more attention to—that is the question of how we deal with those situations where parents are not able to agree on an arrangement for the care and maintenance of their children. In those cases it is appropriate for the State to step in and set a basic set of ground rules which we are reviewing after 21 years. 
It makes eminent sense to me that we should be recognising the fact that fathers on the whole tend to be having more involvement in the raising of their children which is a magnificent thing. And I think it is clearly in the interests of children to have a good strong relationship with both of their parents where at all possible. That in reality does need to lead to having some recognition of that involvement in the regular shared-care arrangements. This bill by reducing the starting point to 2 days a week looking after children I think reflects the changes of the times and I support this bill on account of that. Thank you.
Mitchell Mark: Corrections Amendment Bill — Third Reading 
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MARK MITCHELL (National—Rodney) 
: 
 It is a pleasure to take a call on this the third reading of the Corrections Amendment Bill. I would like to talk a just little bit about Serco. I think it has had a bit of an unfair hearing in the House here tonight. Having met some of the staff of Serco I would just like to commend them and recognise them for the professional job that they do for the passion that they bring to their job and for the excellent performance and service that they are providing to New Zealand. 
For some reason—I do not know why—Labour has got something against the private sector. This is not a new model. Serco has been providing these services for a long time to many other countries around the world very successfully. This is not a new model. The Chief Executive of the Department of Corrections himself said that the exchange of ideas that they are getting between Serco and the Department of Corrections is helping them in important areas like prisoner rehabilitation. If Serco is performing so badly if the Department of Corrections is doing so poorly then explain to me some of the results that we are seeing within our Department of Corrections. Public confidence in corrections is 53 percent higher than what it was in June 2008. Positive— 
Andrew Little 
: That’s not because of Serco. 
MARK MITCHELL 
: Well Serco is a part of this. Serco is making a contribution to these results. Positive random drug-tests were at a record low last year down from 13 percent in 2007-08 to just 4 percent in 2011-12. During the course of Prisoner Skills and Employment Strategy 2009-12 the number of prisoners in vocational training employment and literacy and numeracy education increased to 7529—up from 5359. That is a great result and members of the Law and Order Committee and the chair I am sure will remember the excellent trip that we did to Rimutaka Prison. Something that really stuck in my mind that I thought was an excellent programme was that we got to visit the prisoners there who were learning new skills like bricklaying building engineering skills—skills that actually will go a long way to contributing towards the massive tasks that we have in the rebuild in Christchurch. 
So I would just like to say that I support this model and I think there is benefit for the country and for the taxpayer in using it. We were not afraid to go out and involve the private sector in improving services. If it means that we are getting a better service and if it means that we have more taxpayer money available to spend in areas like health and education then it is a very good programme. Thank you.
Roy Eric: Child Support Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER 
: I understand this is not a split call. Sue Moroney 10 minutes.
Robertson H V Ross: Business of the House 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Order! 
Hon Gerry Brownlee 
: Point of order. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: You have to call me. 
Hon Gerry Brownlee 
: Yeah well I was just saying what a wasted talent. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Is the member calling? 
Hon Gerry Brownlee 
: A point of order Mr Speaker— 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: A point of order. I call the Hon Gerry Brownlee.
Lee Melissa: Child Support Amendment Bill — Second Reading 
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MELISSA LEE (National) 
: 
 Ahn nyung ha se yo Mr Speaker. Tena koutou. I would like to start off my contribution to the second reading of the Child Support Amendment Bill with a comment back to Holly— 
Hon Member 
: Who? 
MELISSA LEE 
: —Miss Holly Walker—who actually made a comment saying that there were people who said they would pay more if they were guaranteed that the money would go to the children. That is what individual agreements between parents are all about. This bill is not about parents who have individual agreements who can pay each other more money. They should pay it themselves. When two people get married and have a child child support is probably the last thing on their mind but when that marriage breaks up the care of that child is divided between the two parents and if the two parents cannot agree on an amicable financial management arrangement for the care of the child the payment for the child the child support is actually the thing that kicks in. 
This child support scheme was created back in 1992 and there are roughly 210000 children who receive child support. Under the current child support scheme it is assumed that the paying parent is the sole income earner but we all know that that is not so. The paying parent is not the sole income earner and the receiving parent is not the only main carer of the child. There are many divorces. I am one of those persons who having cared for my child in a shared custody situation know very well that I am not the main income earner or the main child supporter nor is my ex-husband. We share that care. This comprehensive new child support formula will better reflect many of the social and legal changes that have occurred since the introduction of the current scheme. 
The incomes of both parents will be taken into consideration in this bill where the income of the parents minus the living allowance for each parent will be included in the formula with the costs of raising children being apportioned according to each parent’s share of the total net income. The formula takes into account the age of the child as well. We all know that when children grow older—I am raising a child who is 14 and in the last year his food intake has increased astronomically. He eats me out of house and home. The cost of providing that food alone is humungous. I think he eats more than my mum and me put together. We all know how much raising a child actually costs. 
Non-parent carers may be eligible to receive a proportion of child support payments if they provide at least 28 percent of the ongoing daily care. That may include a grandparent who might be raising that child who might be looking after the child on behalf of parents who are divorced. 
This is a good bill and I recommend it to the House. I will look forward to the debate in the Committee stage.
Brownlee Gerry: Business of the House 
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Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House) 
: 
 Following a discussion at the Business Committee I seek leave for the House to suspend for the dinner break following Charles Chauvel’s valedictory statement on 27 February 2013.
Robertson H V Ross: Business of the House 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none. It is agreed.
Carter David: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Question No. 10 Mojo Mathers. [ 
Interruption 
] I ask the House to please give some silence so that Mojo Mathers can have her question heard.
Carter David: Urgent Debates Declined — Solid Energy—Governance and Accountability 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Members I have received a letter from Brendan Horan seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the State enterprise Solid Energy the responsibility for its governance and accountability and the loss of taxpayers’ investment in the company. For there to be a particular case of recent occurrence there must be either a new situation of importance or a new development in an existing situation of sufficient importance in itself to warrant a debate being held. The member’s authentication indicates that advice has been provided to shareholding Ministers and Solid Energy is working with Treasury advisers and the banks. Such a continuing situation cannot give rise to an urgent debate. There being no particular case of recent occurrence the application is declined.
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Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA (National—Maungakiekie) 
 to the  
Minister for Social Development 
: What impact have the Government’s welfare reforms had to date? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development) 
: 
 The Government’s welfare reforms are seeing real gains for New Zealanders. Future Focus implemented in September 2010 as a precursor to our current major reforms introduced clear obligations and greater fairness to the benefit system. Since Future Focus started more than 171000 benefits have been cancelled because people found work which is a good result in spite of a tough local market and a global economic recession. Over the last 2 years benefit numbers are now reducing by 165 net every week on average which equates to about 34 people every working day. 
Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga 
: What changes has she seen as a result of the annual reapplication requirement? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: One simple policy change requiring unemployment beneficiaries to reapply if they remain on the benefit after a year has seen more than 21400 people come off that benefit with savings of more than $74 million to the taxpayer. 
Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga 
: What results have there been to date by increasing expectations and obligations for those receiving benefits? 
Hon PAULA BENNETT 
: Prior to National’s Future Focus changes 79 percent of beneficiaries had no work-test obligations at all. Because of Future Focus it is now around 64 percent and will reduce further with the changes coming through in the second welfare bill. There is no doubt at all that expectations mean that we see better results for people.
Carter David: Motions — Maori Performing Arts and Kapa Haka—Te Matatini 2013 Festival 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: This is a non-debatable motion. Leave was so given.
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HONE HARAWIRA (Leader—Mana) 
: 
 I seek leave to speak to the motion.
Carter David: Motions — Maori Performing Arts and Kapa Haka—Te Matatini 2013 Festival 
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Mr SPEAKER 
: Leave is sought now for Hone Harawira to speak to the motion that has just been put. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is objection. 
Motion agreed to.
Dunne Peter: Obituaries — Ralph Hotere ONZ 
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Hon PETER DUNNE (Leader—United Future) 
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 The Order of New Zealand is limited to 20 living people at any one time. It is recognition of their individual greatness in their particular field of endeavour. Ralph Hotere was a member of the Order of New Zealand. I was privileged to be at the ceremony in Dunedin last year when a very frail old man—but a very happy old man—received the award in the surroundings of the art gallery with many of his great paintings in attendance if you like. 
Much has been said of the style of his art of his passion his commitment his dedication his wisdom and his skill. To me the talent that he possessed was to be able to combine all of those very raw emotions into powerful art. His political messages were more than just slogans. They were not just colourful posters. They were works of art in their own right that showed a man of deep sensitivity deep warmth huge understanding and a real sense of awareness about this country and its values. My colleague Mr Banks referred to the recent death of Don Binney. He was another artist who possessed many of those attributes—a different style but the same feeling for his country. 
When we farewell people like Ralph Hotere and Don Binney we farewell part of the character of our nation. Ralph Hotere will be missed. His memory will live on not just for his art but for his spirit for his compassion and for his personality. I join with others in expressing my deepest condolences to his family and to his wider whanau. My gratitude goes to them for allowing that man to share his rich talent and his wonderful insight with us for so long. May he rest in peace. 
Motion agreed to.