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Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Order! The member will sit. I do not think you are raising any new material. You have had your caution.
Cosgrove Clayton: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Cosgrove Clayton: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I do not wish to trifle and I will not trifle with you but I think I am entitled to make this point. You will be aware that this is an extremely—
Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Order! I have got the message. [ 
Interruption 
] Order! I am standing. I have taken into consideration all the factors surrounding why the Committee should choose whether this is the time to terminate the debate on Part 1. I have taken all those things into consideration. It has been over 3 hours. I very carefully tried to measure out the speaking calls to as many as I could. I have listened to the substance of the debate and its relevance. I have considered all those factors. The question now is that the question be put. 
Hon Clayton Cosgrove 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I have ruled on this and if the member is trifling with me he will spend some time out of the Chamber.
Cosgrove Clayton: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Cosgrove Clayton: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: A point of order the Hon Clayton Cosgrove. 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE 
: I will wait for you to sit down. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Yes. 
Hon CLAYTON COSGROVE 
: Sorry I do not want to break the rules. I just want to bring to your attention a number of issues before you put the question in your deliberations that you should put the question. There are a number of people on this side who have had no call at all and you have seen the enthusiasm I think on all sides to take the call. The second thing I want to put to you—and this is with no disrespect to the Greens—is that because people on this side of the Chamber have been taking many many calls and people on the other side have not been taking calls the calls have simply bounced in many respects between the Greens and Labour and to some extent New Zealand First. That has created a disproportionate—
Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: The question is that the question be now put. Those who are of that opinion—
Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: No. Order! Order! No that is not acceptable. I will terminate that speech.
Hutchison Paul: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hutchison Paul: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Dr PAUL HUTCHISON (National—Hunua) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Young Jonathan: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Young Jonathan: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Henare Tau: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Henare Tau: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon TAU HENARE (National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Woodhouse Michael: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Woodhouse Michael: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (Senior Whip—National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Calder Cam: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Calder Cam: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Dr CAM CALDER (National) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Macindoe Tim: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Macindoe Tim: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West) 
: 
 I move  
That the question be now put 
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Bennett David: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Bennett David: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Sitting date: 19 June 2012. Volume:681;Page:3086. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East) 
: 
 That previous speaker Phil Goff said: “These are not your assets to sell.” Those were his words. Well remember the history of the Labour Government. Remember Phil Goff’s history in this Parliament when he came in here and sold asset after asset after asset. At any point during that time Phil did you stand up and say to yourself that these were not your assets to sell? Look at us Phil. Do not look at your papers. Look at the people. You said you were talking about the people and representing the people. Well look at what you said in the past. 
Hon Clayton Cosgrove 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Forgive me I know you were distracted—appropriately. It is appropriate that members are addressed by their correct name and I invite you to instruct— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I am sorry. I was distracted. Members know that courtesy prevails. 
Hon Phil Goff 
: Since we are interrupting the debate I seek leave to table this list of all of the assets that were sold under the last Labour Government. For those who cannot see it it is blank. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Order! Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is objection. 
DAVID BENNETT 
: We will come to that list Mr Phil “Past leader of the Labour Party” Goff. But first of all let us go through what you sold— 
Hon Clayton Cosgrove 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. With respect I make the same point again. All members are honourable members. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I heard him say Mr Goff the former leader of the party. [ 
Interruption 
] Well the member must address people by their correct names. If it happens again the member will be in trouble. 
DAVID BENNETT 
: Remember when Labour sold New Zealand Steel to Equiticorp Holdings for $327 million? Remember when Labour sold Petrocorp in 1988 for $801 million? Remember when Labour sold the Post Office Bank to ANZ Banking Group for $665 million? And who was there voting on those? Mr Phil Goff voted on those. Mr Phil Goff came into this House with his mates and voted on those. It is a bit rich coming in here now Phil and trying to—Mr Goff—oppose these bills. 
Hon Clayton Cosgrove 
: He did it again. 
DAVID BENNETT 
: I corrected it. 
Hon David Parker 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Again the member transgressed your earlier ruling. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The member will sit down now. He has lost his right to the call. I am going to call Charles Chauvel. [ 
Interruption 
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Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I call Iain Lees-Galloway.
Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: I just want to be quite clear about this because we had some time last week ascertaining that when you seek to table the minutes of the select committee it is pertinent only—[ 
Interruption 
] So the member needs to make that clear which I have now ensured. Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there anyone opposed to that course of action? There is.
Young Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Young Jonathan: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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12. 
JONATHAN YOUNG (National—New Plymouth) 
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Minister of Energy and Resources 
: What decisions were made in Budget 2012/13 about the Warm Up New Zealand Programme? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY (Minister of Energy and Resources) 
: 
 It was my pleasure as part of the Budget to announce the extension of the Government’s Warm Up New Zealand: Heat Smart programme. As a result of this extension an extra 41000 New Zealand homes will be warmer drier and healthier including targeting an additional 20000 low-income earners. Overall a total of 230000 houses will be now insulated through this programme. Additionally my close colleague the Minister of Housing is seeing that all State houses are insulated by the end of next year. 
Jonathan Young 
: What are the benefits of the Warm Up New Zealand programme? 
Hon PHIL HEATLEY 
: New Zealanders who have accessed the programme are living in warmer drier homes. Our experience is that people need to go to hospital and the doctor less often. Families are healthier resulting in less time off work and school for sickness. Of course lots of jobs have been created and the extension of the scheme means that there is planning certainty beyond 1 July next year while further funding decisions are made in next year’s Budget.
Clark David: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Clark David: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Dr DAVID CLARK (Labour—Dunedin North) 
: 
 I seek leave to table the minutes of the select committee which show that we sought advice from Treasury about the effect of power prices.
Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Roy Eric: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Eric Roy) 
: Order! That is a debatable point. [ 
Interruption 
] Order! The member should not comment. It is not as I said earlier for the Chair to judge the veracity of any comment that is made in this Chamber. This is a debating chamber and sides get equal opportunities to put things. That is how this Parliament actually works.
Mallard Trevor: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Mallard Trevor: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. As the member’s speech finished I was going to invite him as to whether he wants to make a correction now or later as to who was in Government in the 1990s selling assets. I think it was National.
Robertson H V Ross: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Robertson H V Ross: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is.
Mallard Trevor: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Mallard Trevor: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) 
: 
 I seek the leave of the House to table the report of the select committee—I think it was the Government Administration Committee—on the State-Owned Enterprises Bill when it passed I think in 1988. I sat on that committee and for the member to say it did not exist— 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Order! 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: —just would indicate that he is either mistaken or a liar. 
The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Order! The member knows you cannot use the last word. He will withdraw the last word that he used. 
Hon TREVOR MALLARD 
: I withdraw.
Robertson H V Ross: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Robertson H V Ross: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none. 






Document by leave laid on the Table of the House.
Robertson Grant: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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Robertson Grant: Mixed Ownership Model Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
[Sitting date: 19 June 2012. Volume:681;Page:3061. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
GRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Leader—Labour) 
: 
 I seek leave of the House to table a list of the National caucus and Cabinet in the 1990s when it sold assets including Contact Energy—including Mr Tony Ryall.
Smith Lockwood: Urgent Debates Declined — Education Sector—Ministerial Report on Employment of Convicted Sex Offender 
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Smith Lockwood: Urgent Debates Declined — Education Sector—Ministerial Report on Employment of Convicted Sex Offender 
[Sitting date: 19 June 2012. Volume:681;Page:3049. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Mr SPEAKER 
: I have received a letter from Chris Hipkins seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the Government’s decision to withhold a ministerial report into the employment of a convicted sex offender in the education sector. The decision is a case of recent occurrence that involves ministerial responsibility. However not every ministerial decision will warrant an urgent debate. There must be an element of urgency for the matter to take precedence over other business. The authentication for the member’s application reveals that Ministers will consider the report and when and what aspects will be made public will be determined in due course. It also reveals that a further review of the Teachers Council can now get under way. In these circumstances I am not persuaded that the setting aside of the House’s business for an urgent debate today can be justified. The application is therefore declined.
Little Andrew: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
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Little Andrew: Questions for Oral Answer — Questions to Ministers 
[Sitting date: 19 June 2012. Volume:681;Page:3048. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
ANDREW LITTLE (Labour) 
: My question is to the Minister for ACC and asks: On how many occasions and for what periods of time on each occasion did she meet with or discuss with the ACC Chairman or Chief Executive the matter of the mass privacy breach including—sorry I think I have got the wrong text. Let me start again. 
Mr SPEAKER 
: Order! I invite the member to start again because he did get a wee bit away from it. 
ANDREW LITTLE 
: Sorry I have the wrong text in front of me. My apologies. I am obliged.
Finlayson Christopher: Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading In Committee 
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Finlayson Christopher: Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading In Committee 
[Sitting date: 18 July 2012. Volume:681;Page:3743. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations) 
: 
 I move the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 86. It is a very technical Supplementary Order Paper. All that is required is to make a minor amendment to commercial redress for Wharerata Forest land and insert a company number. 
The question was put that the amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 86 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson be agreed to. 
Amendment agreed to. 
Clauses 1 and 2 Parts 1 to 4 and Schedules 1 to 3 as amended agreed to. 
Bill reported with amendment. 
Report adopted.
Finlayson Christopher: Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading In Committee 
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Finlayson Christopher: Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading In Committee 
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Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations) 
: 
 I seek leave for all provisions to be taken as one question.
Horan Brendan: Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading In Committee 
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Horan Brendan: Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading In Committee 
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BRENDAN HORAN (NZ First) 
: 
 I would reiterate my earlier comments on the close whakapapa links between Ngai Tamanuhiri and Rongowhakaata. It is significant that both settlement bills the Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill are considered so closely together today and hopefully will conclude together next week when Royal assent is given and shortly thereafter will be the receiving of the settlement assets. I would acknowledge that the journey to reach this point has been arduous and fraught with peril. However it is pleasing that through this current period there have been high levels of support through the ratification process consistent in what we observed in the Maori Affairs Committee process where there has been overwhelming support for Ngai Tamanuhiri. I would therefore acknowledge the hard work of the negotiators. I thank my parliamentary colleagues. I once again humbly acknowledge the hard and immensely significant work of all those who have gone before. We in New Zealand First look forward to the third readings next week. 
Tena koutou e rau rangatira ma. E hari te ngakau i tenei ra i te tutakitanga o tatou i runga i te kaupapa nui o te ra. Kia kaha kia maia kia manawanui. No reira ma Te Atua koutou e tiaki e manaaki mo ake tonu atu. Huri noa huri noa tena koutou tena koutou tena ano tatou. Greetings to all people. It is great to have korero-ed with you all about our kaupapa today. Continue to be strong courageous and stout-hearted. Therefore may the blessings of God keep you and care for you always. Once again to all of us here in this gathering greetings greetings greetings. Kia ora.
Robertson H V Ross: Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading In Committee 
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Robertson H V Ross: Ngai Tamanuhiri Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (H V Ross Robertson) 
: Leave has been sought for that. Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none.
Horan Brendan: Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
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Horan Brendan: Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
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BRENDAN HORAN (NZ First) 
: 
 Tena koe Mr Speaker. I rise once more on behalf of New Zealand First and again I see myself agreeing with the vast majority of my cross-party colleagues’ earlier comments especially those of the Hon Parekura Horomia. 
I would like to acknowledge the closeness of Rongowhakaata te manuhiri. It is wonderful to see that you can travel through and support each other in this journey. 
I would like to acknowledge Minister Finlayson for his genuine efforts in this small but tremendously important part of that journey. I find myself in a peculiar situation in that a few weeks ago I heard the most honest comprehensive and heartfelt apology ever given by the Crown. That was in Tauranga and was delivered by Minister Finlayson. I must say that the Minister won my respect and also restored considerable mana to the Crown with his honourable intent. My heart soared along with that of Rongowhakaata I am sure when Minister Finlayson acknowledged his goal of the return of a whare tipuna Te Hau ki Turanga. I know that the echo of that affirmation will give continued hope joy and confidence to Rongowhakaata. 
There is still a small way to go. An expeditious conclusion here in the House will allow the emerging empowered Rongowhakaata entity to carry the iwi into the future. Kia ora. 
Bill read a second time.
Henare Tau: Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
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Henare Tau: Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
[Sitting date: 18 July 2012. Volume:681;Page:3722. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon TAU HENARE (National) 
: 
 There are a couple of points I want to make with regard to Ngati Makino. First of all is the comments made by my colleagues on the Maori Affairs Committee about our responsibility to maybe have a look at how we take this step to the next step to the next level in terms of publicity and in terms of education—educating the rest of the nation about not only what we do but what the whole settlement process is about. Maybe in the story of New Zealand in terms of the little bits and pieces of the jigsaw that we are privileged to be a part of our role is to actually tell that story and to maybe engage with the likes of Ngati Makino to come on that journey and educate the rest of the country about their piece of the tapestry of New Zealand. So I endorse my colleagues who have put that to the House. 
There is another point that I want to make and it is about the Maori Affairs Committee. I personally liken the Maori Affairs Committee to the Maori All Blacks not in any way other than this: those who play for the Maori All Blacks see that as the pinnacle—not being an All Black but being a Maori All Black. I actually think that is one of the feelings of being on the Maori Affairs Committee. Make no mistake we have our arguments on the Maori Affairs Committee. Make no mistake there is argy-bargy and so on and so forth. But the Maori Affairs Committee—and I trust that I will be backed up on this point by my colleagues in the House—operates in a way that no other select committee in this House operates. Some people may think that that is just me getting up and spouting on about this that and the other thing but it is a fact from our point of view from the point of view of those on the Maori Affairs Committee. 
Hon Trevor Mallard 
: We believe you Tau. No other committee could go like one you chair. 
Hon TAU HENARE 
: See it is not even about me. If the select committee looks back into its past one of the great things about being on the committee is to be sitting in amongst the likes of Apirana Ngata and the likes of Koro Wetere whom I served with on the committee when I first came to Parliament and what a great chairman and a great member of the select committee he was. When you talk about the claims—Ngati Makino Rongowhakaata whomever—you have to put them into a context of who is on the select committee what part in the tapestry we play and what part the claimants play and what is the next step. So I take on board Brendan Horan’s and Louisa Wall’s statements about the next step in the whole settlement process. 
Yes I congratulate Ngati Makino. It is not the end of their journey. Actually it is just a little blip in the whole of the landscape in terms of Ngati Makino’s history. I commend the Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill to the House and cannot wait for the third reading. 
Bill read a second time.
Horan Brendan: Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
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Horan Brendan: Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill — Second Reading 
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BRENDAN HORAN (NZ First) 
: 
 Having been born in Whakatane and grown up in the Bay of Plenty I respect admire and feel the underlying whisper and touch of the land there and I support the claim of Ngati Makino. Theirs are special waters and special lands. They are unique. I agree with the sentiments of the vast majority of those who have spoken before me this morning. As with our other claims we would like to move forward this Ngati Makino Claims Settlement Bill as expeditiously as possible. It has taken so long to get to this point and who wants to hear a politician waffle on or try to score political points when this is of far greater importance. 
As with every Treaty settlement nothing can truly make up for or fully compensate for what has happened in our sometimes tragic past. But with each settlement and agreement reached our country grows as wounds are acknowledged and with genuine apology are bound. The healing process truly begins as each whanau hapu and iwi moves from a consciousness of deprivation loss grief and bereavement to one of development and self-responsibility. 
But if I have one regret over the process of settlement it is the lack of publicity and spread of knowledge to the general public of New Zealand. Where is the media this morning? Surely the significance of total cross-party support for these settlements sends a signal that they are of tremendous importance to our country. I hope that next week in our third readings New Zealanders are given full notice and that the media are here and fill their section of the gallery so that we can let New Zealanders know and we can all celebrate what will be a truly auspicious occasion. 
New Zealand First supports this bill and we look forward to the third reading next week. Kia ora.
Upston Louise: Maraeroa A and B Blocks Claims Settlement Bill Maraeroa A and B Blocks Incorporation Bill — Second Readings 
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Upston Louise: Maraeroa A and B Blocks Claims Settlement Bill Maraeroa A and B Blocks Incorporation Bill — Second Readings 
[Sitting date: 18 July 2012. Volume:681;Page:3713. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupo) 
: 
 Tena koe e te Mana Whakawa. Tena koe e te Whare. I am proud to speak in the second readings of the Maraeroa A and B Blocks Claims Settlement Bill and the Maraeroa A and B Blocks Incorporation Bill. I am the member of Parliament for the Taupo electorate and my rohe covers some of the area of the individuals from Ngati Maniapoto Raukawa and Ngati Tuwharetoa and I also welcome Ngati Rereahu. I do want to just say briefly as this is the first time I have spoken in the House since the passing of Timi te Heuheu I do want to acknowledge the fantastic work he has done not only for Tuwharetoa but also for this country. So I want to put my comments and my acknowledgment of him on the record and I offer my aroha to his whanau and to Georgina in particular. 
The essence of these second readings is to move quickly as my colleagues have said so I will not say anything further here but I do look forward to speaking further in the third readings. Kia ora. 
Maraeroa A and B Blocks Claims Settlement Bill read a second time. 
Maraeroa A and B Blocks Incorporation Bill read a second time.
Henare Tau: Maraeroa A and B Blocks Claims Settlement Bill Maraeroa A and B Blocks Incorporation Bill — Second Readings 
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Henare Tau: Maraeroa A and B Blocks Claims Settlement Bill Maraeroa A and B Blocks Incorporation Bill — Second Readings 
[Sitting date: 18 July 2012. Volume:681;Page:3711. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
Hon TAU HENARE (National) 
: 
 Te mea tuatahi ki a koutou e aku rangatira tena koutou. Mihi au ki a Tuwharetoa mo tana tangata tana ariki no reira ka mihi ka mihi ka mihi. Tuwharetoa Rereahu Maniapoto Raukawa roroa te taima i tatari ana ratou mo o ratou taonga no reira kai a koutou e aku rangatira i roto i era iwi i era hapu a tena koutou tena koutou kia ora. 
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First of all greetings to you my chiefs. I acknowledge Tuwharetoa in respect of their man and aristocrat. My admiration and respect for him is boundless. You have waited a long time for your possessions Tuwharetoa Rereahu Maniapoto and Raukawa. They are there with you my lords in other tribes and subtribes. So salutations and acknowledgments to you collectively; thank you. 
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Rather than repeat what everybody else has said I say it is a good time to be Maori. Rather than treat these bills the Maraeroa A and B Blocks Claims Settlement Bill and the Maraeroa A and B Blocks Incorporation Bill like an inquest or a coroner’s report we should actually be celebrating the great tapestry of stories and songs of Treaty settlements. They are not just about saying: “Sorry. Here’s 10 bucks. Go away.” They are about the great tapestry of stories and songs that this nation has and they play a huge part in the story of this land. They are not about just settling somebody’s grievance; they are about telling the story of whence we came and where we are going and all the little bits and pieces the ins and outs of the great tapestry that is Aotearoa that is New Zealand. 
I will leave my comments there other than to say thank you very much to the most capable Hon Chris Finlayson the Hon Tariana Turia and my colleagues on the Maori Affairs Committee who I must say are on the busiest committee around.
Horan Brendan: Maraeroa A and B Blocks Claims Settlement Bill Maraeroa A and B Blocks Incorporation Bill — Second Readings 
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BRENDAN HORAN (NZ First) 
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 Ka tangi te titi ka tangi te kaka ka tangi hoki ahau tihei mauri ora. E nga iwi e nga reo e nga mana e nga matawaka tena tatou a tena koutou tena koutou tena koutou katoa. E rau rangatira ma ka mihi ake i runga i te karanga o te ra. Tena koutou tena koutou tena ano tatou katoa. 
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The muttonbird cries the parrot cries and I cry as well; behold the breath of life. To the tribes languages authorities and clans salutations to us collectively and acknowledgments greetings and welcome to us all. To the many leaders I salute you in regard to the call of the day. Greetings greetings and greetings once again to all of us. 
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I rise on behalf of New Zealand First to support these second readings of the Maraeroa A and B Blocks Claims Settlement Bill and the Maraeroa A and B Blocks Incorporation Bill. I acknowledge the work of all of those who have strived so hard to get to this point those who have passed away and those still living who have persevered and endured and are eager to see the culmination of such collective effort. New Zealand First would like to see this section of the process move through as expeditiously as possible. We support and look forward to the third readings of the settlement bill and the incorporation bill next week. Kia ora.
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Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations) 
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 As previous speakers have said these bills are the result of a tremendous amount of work and dedication. The bills the Maraeroa A and B Blocks Claims Settlement Bill and the Maraeroa A and B Blocks Incorporation Bill give effect to the Maraeroa A and B Blocks deed of settlement that seeks to make right past wrongs as Mr Horomia has said. The Crown acknowledges that the imposition of 19th century native land laws led to the alienation of the vast majority of those blocks and undermined the social and traditional tribal structures of the people of the Maraeroa A and B Blocks. The descendants have worked for a number of years to have their claims addressed by the Crown. In September 2008 draft terms of negotiation were signed with Te Maru o Rereahu Trust and the Crown commenced exploratory work with the interests in those blocks. In July 2009 the Crown agreed to negotiate a block settlement with Te Maru o Rereahu Trust in relation to the Maraeroa A and B Blocks and agreed that the beneficiaries would be all the descendants of the original owners of the blocks. The parties reached an agreed offer in July 2010 and then initialled the deed of settlement in December of the same year. The Crown and descendants signed a deed of settlement on 12 March 2011 after the deed had been ratified. 
Mrs Turia has summarised the settlement redress so I do not intend to repeat that in detail. All I want to do is refer to the fact that the bills were referred to the Maori Affairs Committee on 8 March and the committee reported back to the House on 14 June. I want to thank Mr Henare and the committee for considering these bills in their usual timely and competent fashion. As Mr Horomia said the committee received and considered one submission. 
That is really all I want to say at this stage. I will save more extended comments for the third reading but I do want to conclude with the following to the members of Ngati Rereahu to Ngati Maniapoto Ngati Tuwharetoa Raukawa and other iwi who are the descendants of the original owners of the Maraeroa A and B Blocks that I acknowledge those who suffered from the breaches of the Treaty and who have carried the grievances for so many years. I acknowledge the trustees; their tremendous dedication and determination have been vital in the path toward settlement.
Tisch Lindsay: Human Rights Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: Sorry to interrupt the honourable member. [ 
Interruption 
] Order! Sorry to interrupt the honourable member. The time has come for to me to leave the Chair. 
Debate interrupted.
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TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West) 
: 
 Members have always liked to think that their contributions in this House will be lucid and coherent but I have to say Mr Assistant Speaker that the first time that I was about to take the call on this bill the Human Rights Amendment Bill you very kindly and charitably adjourned the House just as I was about to take it. On the second occasion I took the call at exactly the same time on an evening you had me a little discombobulated I must say by the fact that you bounced in your chair at one stage and I thought you were standing to adjourn the House. So I am not sure that my contribution on this third attempt will necessarily go down in the annals as one of my finest contributions in the House. 
But I would like to clarify that when I took the call the other day I failed to make it clear that one of the most— 
Hon Member 
: I think this is his best speech ever. 
TIM MACINDOE 
: Thank you. 
Andrew Little 
: Why don’t you talk about something in the bill? 
TIM MACINDOE 
: I do appreciate Mr Little’s praise. All praise is gratefully received particularly from that member who is not known for dispensing it very often. 
The Human Rights Amendment Bill amends the Human Rights Act 1993 and I failed to make clear the other night when I took the call at exactly this time of night that its major purpose is to enable the establishment of a full-time commissioner with responsibility for leadership in disability rights within the Human Rights Commission. That is a serious issue. It arises from the fact that as I mentioned last time the previous Labour Government in its dying days ratified the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. That was in late September 2008. Article 33 of the convention requires States—there are all sorts of long words here—to effectively ensure that we will recognise and uphold the important rights and interests of people with disabilities. So this bill is an important measure and I have no hesitation in supporting it. 
The creation of this role requires an amendment of the Act as it currently enables the commissioners to have formalised leadership in only two areas and those are the areas of race relations and equal employment. In fact tonight when I attended the function to farewell the Retirement Commissioner I had a quick chat with Joris de Bres the outgoing Race Relations Commissioner and he commented on the fact that he had enjoyed my outstanding contribution in this debate last week and I made it clear to him that I would give him even greater pleasure tonight if he tuned in at the same time. 
Hon Chester Borrows 
: Tune in next week! 
TIM MACINDOE 
: So I hope he has and at this rate he will be tuning in not only next week my good friend Chester Borrows but probably next year. I have been known occasionally to take time—
Vote: Electronic Identity Verification Bill Identity Information Confirmation Bill — Third Readings 
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[Sitting date: 11 December 2012. Volume:686;Page:7402. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.] 
A party vote was called for on the question  
That the Identity Information Confirmation Bill be now read a third time. 
Ayes 105 
New Zealand National 59; New Zealand Labour 34; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 15 
Green Party 14; Mana 1. 
Bill read a third time.
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LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupo) 
: 
 I am pleased to support both the Electronic Identity Verification Bill and the Identity Information Confirmation Bill. Both of these pieces of legislation are an important step forward in terms of enabling both consumers and businesses to transact more easily with the Government. Thank you. 
Electronic Identity Verification Bill read a third time.
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MIKE SABIN (National—Northland) 
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 I will take a short call on these cognate bills the Electronic Identity Verification Bill and the Identity Information Confirmation Bill. The igovt service allows individuals to check their identity when transacting with Government departments. It has already been in use since 2009 to a limited capacity with regard to birth certificates death certificates and marriage certificates and it is very much time to expand. The Identity Information Confirmation Bill creates a new service that essentially enables approved agencies to check identities against the Department of Internal Affairs database if you like. This is a very good tool to help protect against identity fraud which is a massive problem in many respects and on many levels. As for privacy concerns this is not a compulsory system; it is an opt-in and opt-out system and requires the consent of those partaking. I think it is important to note that the Privacy Commissioner will be monitoring both these initiatives in real time. So essentially there are very good checks and balances in place. 
This is very much part of this Government’s Better Public Services agenda. This is very much a part of what we are trying to do in terms of efficiency effectiveness and being pragmatic for the New Zealand public. I just want to take the time to commend the Hon Chester Borrows for the work that he in particular is doing in this area. He is a great servant of this place and of New Zealanders. I commend these bills to the House. 
The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I understand that this is a split call.
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JAMI-LEE ROSS (National—Botany) 
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 I am pleased that the House has returned to a level of calmness after the antics that we had earlier on in this debate. I think my Thursday morning sparring partner Mr Hipkins and his mentor Trevor Mallard were getting a little overexcited over there invoking the ghost of David Garrett but I am glad the House is back to normality. 
The Electronic Identity Verification Bill and the Identity Information Confirmation Bill are very good pieces of legislation. They are all about implementing part of the Government’s Better Public Services programme—the result No. 10 that we have got there which is about making it easier for New Zealanders to interact online with the New Zealand Government. The legislation enables an automated electronic service that authorised agencies can use to confirm the accuracy of individuals’ identity information. It can be used for a wide range of purposes including meeting new anti - money-laundering requirements. The legislation also helps to combat identity fraud by preventing the use of fake identities. It extends the use of the web-based Data Validation Service to public and private sector agencies on a strictly need-to-know basis. And it allows agencies to check whether the identity information presented by a customer is consistent with that held by the Department of Internal Affairs through the citizenship register the passports database and various registers such as the Births Deaths and Marriages register. 
This is good legislation and I commend it to the House.
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KANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National) 
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 It is my privilege to speak on the Electronic Identity Verification Bill and the Identity Information Confirmation Bill. These two bills are sponsored by the Hon Chris Tremain. Can I also acknowledge the chair of the Government Administration Committee the Hon Ruth Dyson and the other members of the select committee for their contribution. Can I also acknowledge the work of the officials in the select committee process. It has been a great pleasure of mine to be part of that select committee. 
In this modern world the changing technology requires a lot of new legislation and this bill is part of that. The Government is rolling out ultra-fast broadband and people require the tools to use those facilities. The main aim of the bill is to simplify the interaction between individuals and Government agencies. However I am sure all of us will agree that when information is exchanged by electronic means it raises the issue of privacy. This legislation introduced by our National Government ensures that issues of privacy are attended to with the utmost priority. Only if the person provides consent to the relevant Government department does this allow for the exchange of the information. For any organisation that commits an offence under this bill its penalty amount has now been raised significantly. The idea is to deter anyone from the misuse of these services. It is another step by this Government that reduces red tape and paperwork. I hope this will be a tool for people to enhance their ability to work with identification at different agencies. I commend this bill to the House.
Vote: Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims (Continuation and Reform) Amendment Bill — First Reading 
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A party vote was called for on the question  
That the question be agreed to. 
Ayes 86 
New Zealand National 59; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 7; Maori Party 3; ACT New Zealand 1; Mana 1; United Future 1. 
Noes 34 
New Zealand Labour 34. 
Question agreed to.