Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
Tisch Lindsay: Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill — In Committee Speaker Recalled In Committee 
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The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The next amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 28(1)(b) is out of order. The next amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 28(1)(c) is out of order. The next— 
Hon John Boscawen 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I have been following your rulings on amendments that are out of order and I can understand why some of these have been ruled out of order but I am rather surprised that the second of Hilary Calvert’s amendments to clause 28(1)(c) has been ruled out of order where she proposes that “and passengers” be omitted and substituted with “passengers and other goods or persons”. It seems to me that the addition or the words “goods or persons” changes the meaning of that— 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: We are not on that one. I said we are on clause 28(1)(c) of Supplementary Order Paper 214. That is the one you are querying; we have not got to the one that you are mentioning. 
Hon John Boscawen 
: There are actually two amendments to clause 28(1)(c) and I am speaking to the second. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: I have not put that one yet. In the format in front of us we are talking about Hilary Calvert’s amendment to clause 28(1)(c)—to omit “crew equipment” and substitute “equipment and crew” as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214. That is out of order. The one you are referring to is the next one and we have not got to that one yet. 
Hon John Boscawen 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. I absolutely understand that so I simply ask that when you rule amendments in or out you go on to refer to them in a bit more detail because you earlier ruled out Hilary Calvert’s amendment to clause 28(1)(b) and she actually had two of them. When you said the amendments to clause 28(1)(b) was being ruled out effectively you were ruling both of them out together. So when you rule out the amendment to clause 28(1)(c) we at this end of the Chamber do not know whether you are ruling out one or both. What I was seeking to clarify was that it seemed to me that the amendment to clause 28(1)(c) was perfectly reasonable which you have now agreed it is because you are prepared to put the question on it. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: The previous amendment to clause 28(1)(c) is out of order and we now move to the one that you are referring to which is a further amendment to clause 28(1)(c). The question is that Hilary Calvert’s amendment to clause 28(1)(c) to omit “and passengers” and substitute “passengers and any other goods or persons” the amendment to subclause (1)(d) to omit “for a convenient time” and the amendment to subclause (1)(e) to omit “temporarily” as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214 be agreed to. 
Hon John Boscawen 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. Why are you taking the vote on each of those amendments as one question when previously you have taken the vote on those amendments clause by clause? I realise that the Minister can ask for his amendments to be put as one Supplementary Order Paper but Hilary Calvert is entitled to have her amendments treated individually. 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: That is a good question. These are all related and they are grouped together and that is why it is being done this way. It is up to the discretion of the Chair and that is how we have done it. 
Hon John Boscawen 
: I raise a point of order Mr Chairperson. In drafting these amendments we originally put in separate Supplementary Order Papers for each amendment. The Clerk’s Office said to us that that consumed a lot of paper so we were asked whether we could submit the amendments together on the one Supplementary Order Paper which we have done. So there are several amendments on one Supplementary Order Paper and it seems to me that had we not done that you would have taken the votes separately. I ask that you take the votes separately on the amendments to clause 28(1)(c) (d) and (e). 
The CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch) 
: It does not matter which Supplementary Order Paper the amendments are on. That is irrelevant. I will put the question which I have just outlined. 
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 214 in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 28(1)(c) relating to passengers clause 28(1)(d) and 28(1)(e) to omit “temporarily” be agreed to.