Doocey MattMATT DOOCEY (National—Waimakariri): Thank you very much Mr Speaker. It's a pleasure to rise on behalf of the National Party and my good friend and colleague Dr Shane Reti to oppose this bill the Therapeutic Products Bill. You've got to give it to the Minister the whole process—Nicola Grigg: She's running away.MATT DOOCEY: —she's kept a straight face because I'm not sure if it's a medical term or maybe a rugby analogy but boy was she given a hospital pass by the last—DEPUTY SPEAKER: Sorry just to interrupt—Ms Grigg you will stand withdraw and apologise. You cannot comment on the fact that a Minister has left the House.Nicola Grigg: I withdraw and apologise.MATT DOOCEY: Thank you very much Mr Speaker and thanks for drawing the point to that. The point I was making was that the Minister was given a hospital pass by the former health Minister Andrew Little. The Minister said in her first call here of the third reading of this bill that it was fit for purpose"—fit for purpose. Remember the other slogans "Let's do this." Now it's something like "In it for you". I mean imagine the ability to get up and say this bill has been fit for purpose when it has so much opposition.The Minister also said it's a long time in the making. Well it actually didn't have to be a long time in the making because there was a bill on the table under the former National Government in 2017 that many of the submitters have referred to during the process that this Government could have picked up and then the bill would have ended up in a better shape than it lands today. The Minister acknowledged the Health Committee members; I want to acknowledge them especially the Government members who did a very studious job only to be thrown under the bus when it came back in to the second reading and the Minister said "It's not good enough I'm having to put a Supplementary Order Paper in." What I find very interesting with the Therapeutic Products Bill—I think this bill is very emblematic of the Government we have today that's just lurching side to side limping along till the final whistle in a few weeks' time. Because the only good news for people today—as the Minister said—is this bill is not enacted until 2026 and by then we will have a National Government in place that will repeal this bill because it's absolutely been a shambles. We've heard that from the 16500 submitters—16000 of them opposed this bill—and this bill has been shambolic the whole way through. Plenty of backflips and now we have a bill that we've been told is "fit for purpose". What I thought was some subtle messaging by the Minister about our natural health product producers that are opposing this bill she implied it was just the small-scale natural health products producers the manufacturers and then had a go at them for misinformation. Have a look at the sector who's opposed this bill. It's been pretty clear right across the natural health products sector that they oppose this bill. We had a new Prime Minister that stood up and said this would be a Government of bread and butter politics—back to the basics—and here we are in a cost of living crisis putting some very productive New Zealand markets at risk. Let's be very clear: the natural health product market is a billion-dollar industry. This bill puts that at risk. The medical devices industry it's a billion-dollar industry as well. Let's not forget the debacle we've got with cosmetics that is now under the natural health product definition tangled up in this bill and that is going to put an industry at risk for New Zealand as well. The key issue that's come out time and time again in these debates and the submissions is the issues of notification versus authorisation. It's very clear. I mean if you look at the history when the EU attempted to do this in 2021—I mean it was a narrower scope they already had a regulator in place and this caused huge disruptions to the sectors. Huge time frames huge cost. So here we are with a wider scope implementing a new regulator and saying "Actually this is all going to be tickety-boo."I'll tell you what's going to happen for our hard-working manufacturers our producers our exporters in the medical devices sector in the natural health products sector in the cosmetics sector—their costs are going to go up. Delays are going to be incurred around notifications. One medical device alone a producer who contacted us said they would need to notify the regulator over 700 times a year for improvements on medical devices. There's one thing I think the public knows from the last six years under this Government is anything they do is delayed and bureaucratic.So I agree with the sector. Why should we have any faith in the regulator and what the Government is introducing in this third reading today? Because when you look at the vital income these sectors bring us by exporting this overreach of bureaucracy this regulatory overburden all it's going to do is make us less competitive with countries who do not have this level of compliance. That will make our exporters less competitive and that's hugely concerning. In my final comment I just want to acknowledge some of the brave faces and names who stood up against this bill. I'm thinking specifically of Theresa Zame. Theresa put a petition together because under this bill initially it was going to stop people accessing medicines through compassionate medicines schemes. Theresa Zame's story is she has stage 4 lung cancer. She doesn't qualify for any publicly funded medicines in New Zealand. If she was to go private here the closest medication she could get would be over $10000 a month. She imports one prescription Tagrix for $1000 a month and in her words she calls it life-saving. A mum from Gizzy that stood up and led a petition to the forecourt here—thousands of signatures supported by Malcolm Mulholland from Patient Voice Aotearoa. That issue of stopping people's ability to get the vital life-saving medicines they need is emblematic of this bill right from the start. Poorly thought out. They have lurched back and forth right from the start. Backflipped—trying to make bad good. What's been very clear is Dr Shane Reti's position and the National Government—the National Party getting a bit ahead of myself—the National Party's position on this bill as well that we will stand up for those 16000 submitters that this Government wouldn't stand up for. Once again we've got a bill in the House that says Wellington knows best. It says Labour knows best. We're going to run the country out of Wellington. At a time in a cost of living crisis why are we putting billion-dollar industries at risk? So I want to thank everyone who's submitted to this bill. I want to thank all my colleagues from across the House who have worked hard in the select committee and I want to give New Zealanders hope that after 14 October we will make the changes needed to this bill."