A: PERSONALLY WHEN SKY STARTED THEIR OWN MORNING UM SATURDAY MORNING TV SHOWS AND I THINK THEY HAD DJ CAT FOR A WHILE

B: THAT WAS UM

A: I WAS AT

B: EUROPEAN

A: OH EURO EURO TV OR SOMETHING EURO CHANNEL

B: YEAH

A: EURO CHANNEL

B: I THINK IT CAME FROM AMSTERDAM BUT IT I REMEMBER THAT WELL THAT WAS

A: MM

B: ANOTHER LAYER OF KIND OF VERY EXOTIC STUFF YOU HADN'T SEEN 'CAUSE THERE WAS ALL THESE CARTOONS FROM EUROPE AND THAT THEY WERE BUYING IN AND I REMEMBER A LOT OF JAPANESE CARTOONS

A: THAT WAS <OVERLAP> THE FIRST TIME I SAW TRANSFORMERS

B: YEAH STUFF LIKE THAT

A: AND THAT WAS HUGE FOR MERCHANDISE BECAUSE THE TOYS CAME FIRST AND THEN

B: YEAH

A: THE CARTOON SO THERE WAS NO SHORTAGE OF TRANSFORMERS AND THEN YOU HAD THE CHEAPER RIP OFF TRANSFORMERS THAT YOU GET

B: YEAH YEAH

A: IN THE IN THE NOT SO BRANDED SHOPS YOU KNOW AND

B: YEAH

A: BUT UM THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME EXCUSE ME THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I REMEMBERED THERE BEING A BIG KINDA HULLABALOO OVER MERCHANDISE FIRST OF ALL

B: YEAH

A: TRANSFORMERS AND THEN THE TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES

B: TURTLES YEAH

A: MM HMM

B: OUT OF CARTOONS

A: MM

B: THAT'S ONE I NEVER REALLY TOOK TO I THINK I WAS A BIT OLDER

A: YEAH

B: UM WHEN THEY KIND OF CAME AROUND BUT I REMEMBER BEING ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDED WHEN MY COUSINS CAME HOME FROM ENGLAND WITH ACTUAL TRANSFORMERS BASED ON ON THE CARTOON

A: WOW WOW

B: AND I THINK THAT'S WHEN THE WHOLE KIND OF JAPANESE ANIMATION KINDA OPENED UP

A: MM HMM

B: ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD AS WELL IT'S VERY COMMON THESE DAYS BUT IT IT SEEMS SO DIFFERENT AND SO NEW

A: YEAH

B: I REMEMBER ONE THAT WAS A HUGE INFLUENCE ON ME AND IT WAS RTé WHO HAD BOUGHT IT UM BUT IT WAS A REALLY OLD SEVENTIES JAPANESE CARTOON CALLED BATTLE OF THE PLANETS

A: OH I

B: AND THAT WAS

A: REMEMBER THAT

B: YEAH

A: YEAH

B: I WAS VERY YOUNG LIKE FIVE SIX SEVEN BUT THAT WAS THAT WAS A HUGE CARTOON GOING BACK WE USED TO WAIT ALL DAY TO SEE IT AND ONCE A WEEK AROUND HALF FOUR IN THE EVENINGS THAT WAS THE OTHER THING TOO WITH IRISH BROADCASTING THEY NEVER ADHERED TO SPECIFIC VIEWING TIMES

A: HMM

B: THEY'D SAY THEY'D BE SHOWING A PROGRAM OR A CARTOON AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND IT MIGHTN'T APPEAR TILL QUARTER PAST SIX OR IT WAS INFURIATING BACK THEN THEY USED TO JUST CUT THINGS OFF

A: YEAH

B: BUT YOU'D BEEN WAITING A WEEK TO SEE AND INTO YOUR EARLIER TEENS THEN DID YOU START GETTING INTO MORE LIKE AMERICAN TV THAT MUST HAVE BEEN

A: NO YEAH

B: A BIG THING LIKE BIG SHOWS

A: BUT I REMEMBER YOU KNOW THE SITCOMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND IT

B: YEAH

A: PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE IN MY HOUSE GROWING UP WOULD'VE BEEN THE COSBY SHOW

B: YEAH

A: THAT THAT WAS HUGE ON A SUNDAY

B: YEAH

A: WHEN THAT STARTED YOU DIDN'T YOU NEVER MISSED THE COSBY SHOW EVEN THOUGH MY DAD AGAIN HE WAS AN AVID TV VIEWER SO HE ALWAYS HAD SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE TV BUT HE DID NOT LIKE THE COSBY SHOW OR BILL COSBY AND USED TO INSIST THAT THAT WASN'T FUNNY AND HE COULD DO A BETTER JOB AND YEAH HE PROBABLY COULD HAVE <LAUGH>

B: YEAH

A: BUT IT WAS IT WAS REALLY JUST VIEWING ON A SUNDAY EVENING DEFINITELY

B: I GUESS BEFORE WE KNOW WHAT WE KNOW NOW

A: HMM

B: IT WAS YEAH IT WAS SO BIG BECAUSE IT CROSSED ALL KINDA CULTURES AND KIND OF GLOBALLY THE WHOLE FAMILY USED TO SIT DOWN TO WATCH THAT SHOW UM I GUESS YOU START PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO MORE KINDA DRAMATIC STUFF UM

A: YEAH

B: I REMEMBER THE THINGS LIKE MIAMI VICE AND JUST

A: HMM

B: GETTING INTO THAT KIND OF MORE ADULT KINDA GLAMOROUS WORLD TOO WHEN YOU WERE A KID THAT WAS KIND OF EXCITING AND UM ENGLISH CHANNELS PRODUCE A LOT OF GOOD KIND OF COP SHOWS AND TV SHOWS STUFF THAT I USED TO WATCH WHEN I WAS A KID DID YOU HAVE ANY

A: YEAH

B: FAVORITES LIKE

A: I I USED TO LIKE DANCING MAGPIES UH

B: YEAH

A: AND THAT WAS A GOOD ONE UM THEN AS I GOT A LITTLE BIT OLDER AND YOU KNOW A BIT MORE WORLDLY WISE I WAS ABLE TO UNDERSTAND MORE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THINGS LIKE CRACKER I USED TO FIND THAT

B: YEAH

A: REALLY REALLY GOOD BUT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ABOVE THE KIND OF RE WE WERE LOOKING AT WHEN WE WERE KIDS IT WASN'T MADE FOR MY AGE GROUP BUT I USED TO LOVE

B: YEAH

A: THE DETECTIVE SIDE OF IT AND THE INVESTIGATIVE SIDE OF IT BUT UM YEAH YOU KNOW WHEN IT CAME TO THE COP SHOWS AND STUFF LIKE THAT USUALLY YOU'D MIGRATE OVER TO THINGS LIKE HILL STREET BLUES AND

B: YEAH

A: I THINK RTE USED TO SHOW THAT ONE WASN'T IT

B: YEAH THEY THEY BOUGHT

A: YEAH

B: THAT QUITE WISELY BUT

A: MM

B: IT WAS ALWAYS ON REALLY LATE WHEN I WAS YOUNG

A: YEAH

B: IT WAS KIND OF BEYOND BEDTIME IT WAS USUALLY AROUND QUARTER TO ELEVEN OR SO SO IT WAS LATER WHEN I GOT

A: YEAH

B: INTO THAT STUFF BUT ONE COP SHOW I USED TO LOVE WHEN I WAS A KID YOU USED TO PROBABLY WATCH IT TOO WAS T J HOOKE WITH WILLIAM SHATNER YEAH

A: HMM WAS THAT

B: THAT WAS HUGE

A: WAS THAT UM THE GIRL FROM DYNASTY WHAT'S HER NAME

B: YEAH HEATHER LOCKLEAR

A: HEATHER LOCKLEAR THAT'S IT YEAH

B: AND IT WAS WILLIAM SHATNER AND ANOTHER YOUNG KIND OF ITALIAN ACTOR WHO USED TO DO A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFTING AND A LOT OF THE RUNNING AND CHASING

A: YEAH

B: BUT YEAH THAT WAS A BIG BIG SHOW AND UM

A: ACTUALLY YOU'VE JUST REMINDED ME OF TWO SHOWS THAT I LOVED GROWING UP TO AMERICAN ONES ONE WAS THE FALL GUY

B: OH YEAH THAT WAS

A: I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE FALL GUY I JUST

B: YEAH

A: I WOULD'VE GIVEN ANYTHING TO HAVE MOVED TO CALIFORNIA THERE AND THEN I I WAS JUST AMAZED BY THE

B: YEAH

A: PLACE AND THE OTHER WAS THE DUKES OF HAZZARD <LAUGH>

B: OH YEAH I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT THAT WAS HUGE

A: YEAH I USED TO LOVE IT

B: THAT WAS HUGE IN IRELAND

A: SO MUCH SO THAT I WOULD REFUSE TO GET INTO THE CAR IF SOMEONE OPENED THE DOOR AS A CHILD I WOULD ONLY GET IN AND OUT THROUGH THE WINDOW <LAUGH>

B: YEAH

A: LIKE THE DUKES BOYS I WOULD ONLY

B: YEAH

A: CLIMB IN AND OUT THROUGH THE WINDOW AND THERE WAS NO WAY I WAS IF YOU OPENED THE DOOR FOR ME NO YOU HAD TO CLOSE THE DOOR ROLL DOWN THE ROLL DOWN THE WINDOW THERE WAS NO ELECTRIC WINDOW

B: YEAH

A: BACK THEN ROLL IT DOWN AND THEN FYUU AND I'D GO

B: I THINK THAT WAS REALLY POPULAR IN IRELAND IT SEEMED TO CLICK WITH TWO THINGS WHICH WAS CARS AND OUTLAW CULTURE

A: <LAUGH> YEAH

B: IT'S THE FACT THEY USED TO MAKE MOONSHINE AND SMUGGLE AND STUFF I I THINK YEAH IT WAS IT WAS A BIG SHOW ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD

A: IT WAS I THINK THE IRISH LIKED IT BECAUSE LIKE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO GET ONE UP ON THE AUTHORITIES AND BOSS HOG AND

B: YEAH

A: YOU KNOW WE USED TO <OVERLAP> HAVE AN AFFINITY YEAH IT WAS A REBELLIOUS THING AND THEN THERE WAS A GOOD

B: YEAH

A: LOOKING GIRL IN SMALL SHORTS AND THAT ALWAYS HELPED WITH THE VIEWERSHIP BUT

B: YEAH

A: I JUST I JUST LOVED THE CAR AND I THINK

B: YEAH

A: EVERYBODY IN IRELAND WOULD'VE KILLED TO HAVE HAD THE GENERAL LEE BUT IT WAS NEVER YOU'D NEVER SEE AN AMERICAN CAR LIKE THAT IN IRELAND IT WAS FORD FIESTA OR NOTHING <LAUGH>

B: YEAH I DID SEE SOME LIKE FORD ESCORTS OVER THE YEARS THAT WERE MODELED UP

A: HMM

B: TO LOOK A BIT LIKE THE GENERAL LEE AND THAT WAS AS CLOSE AS THEY CAME BUT YEAH I GUESS AGAIN IN BACK IN IRELAND IN THOSE DAYS EVERYTHING FROM ABROAD SEEMED VERY EXOTIC AND VERY UNOBTAINABLE JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED THE FALL GUY AND

A: MM

B: UM THAT WAS A SHOW ABOUT A STUNTMAN

A: YEAH

B: WHO LIVED IN HOLLYWOOD AND HE KIND OF SOLVED MYSTERIES ON THE SIDE AND STUFF LIKE THAT TOO

A: IT WAS LIKE A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR ON THE SIDE

B: YEAH BUT YEAH THE THESE ARE THE FIRST GLIMPSES YOU GET AT PLACES LIKE CALIFORNIA AND THAT KIND OF LIFESTYLE AND IT JUST SEEMED YOU KNOW LIKE YOU WOULD NEVER SEE THE LIKES UM I GUESS FOR SOME TOO ANOTHER HUGE SHOW FROM WHEN WE WERE A KID WOULD'VE BEEN MAGNUM PI WITH TOM SELLECK YEAH THAT WAS A BIG EVENT

A: I LOVED IT I LOVED I LOVED THE TOUCH I LOVED THE SHORTS I LOVED THE FERRARI

B: YEAH I THINK THAT WAS DESIGNED TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE MOMS

A: EVERYONE

B: THE DAD AND FOR THE KID ALL

A: YEAH

B: ROLLED INTO ONE

A: MM

B: AND IT'S SOMETHING WE WATCHED RECENTLY AS KIND OF ADULTS AND IT HAS <OVERLAP>