B: AND WE MARKET ON IRISH CARTOONS BECAUSE AFTER WE GOT THE ENGLISH CHANNELS YOU'D KIND OF RARELY GO BACK TO IRISH TV IF YOU WERE A KID BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN THE LATE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES THEY USED TO BUY IN THESE CARTOONS FROM I THINK IT WAS PLACES LIKE CZECHOSLOVAKIA AND POLAND COULD HAVE EVEN BEEN FROM THE FORMER SOVIET REPUBLIC BUT THE STRANGE THING ABOUT THEM WAS THAT THERE WERE POLITICAL KIND OF CARTOONS WHICH IS NO SPEAKING AND STRANGE ANIMATION AND REALLY DISTURBING MUSIC

A: MM MMH

B: AND THEY USED TO PUT THOSE ON FOR KIDS UM AND THE CONTRAST WHEN YOU SAW SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WAS COMING IN FROM AMERICA AS WELL THROUGH THE ENGLISH CHANNELS THAT WAS JUST SUCH AN EYE OPENER IT WAS HUGE IN THE MID 'EIGHTIES

A: YEAH

B: AND THAT WAS THE THING YOU'D TALK TO YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT IT ON A MONDAY MORNING YOU'D GO TO SCHOOL AND YOU'D TALK ABOUT ALL THE CARTOONS THAT YOU SAW I GUESS THEN TV SHOWS YOU'RE STARTING TO GET EXPOSED TO ESPECIALLY AMERICAN ONES DO YOU HAVE ANY IMMEDIATE FAVORITES

A: WELL I REMEMBER ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES SEEING THE FLINTSTONES

B: SURE RIGHT

A: WHEN WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP THE FLINTSTONES WERE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS SUCH THING AS A RERUN I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANT

B: YEAH YEAH YEAH

A: SO WHEN I SAW THINGS ON TV I ASSUMED THAT YOU KNOW THEY WERE MADE ESPECIALLY FOR ME NEVERMIND THAT THERE WERE JUST THE FIRST VIEWING OF THEM

B: YEAH

A: AND I REMEMBER MY DAD CAME INTO THE ROOM WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE FLINTSTONES AND HE WENT OH I USED TO LOVE THIS WHEN I WAS A KID THAT BLEW MY MIND AS LIKE

B: YEAH

A: YOU YOU SAW THIS WHEN YOU WERE A

B: YEAH

A: CHILD AND HE HE USED TO LAUGH HIS HEAD OFF AT THE SAUTE TIGER KICKING FRED FLINSTONE OUT THE WINDOW <LAUGH> AT THE VERY END

B: YEAH

A: THAT THAT USED TO CRACK ME UP BUT JUST TO GET ANYTHING FROM THE STATES WAS WAS HUGE ESPECIALLY WHEN RTP

B: YEAH

A: OFF THEIR BUDGET AND THEY MANAGED TO IMPORT THINGS SO YEAH

B: YEAH

A: BUT I

B: BUT I THINK THEY HAD TO THERE WAS SO MANY PEOPLE OPTING FOR 'CAUSE THE ORIGINAL OLD OLD SKY TELEVISION WAS JUST ON THE HORIZON

A: MM MMH

B: AND YOU COULD ALSO AVAIL OF KIND OF UH LIKE YOU SAID ENGLISH CHANNELS AND WELSH CHANNELS IN NORTHERN IRELAND SO IRISH BROADCASTING KIND OF HAD TO UP ITS GAME A LITTLE BUT IT STILL DIDN'T DO TOO MUCH FOR KIDS OR CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING BUT I THINK ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITES AND ONE THAT CROSSES GENERATIONS IS OBVIOUSLY SESAME STREET BECAUSE

A: OH YEAH

B: THAT WAS JUST HUGE WHEN YOU WERE A KID THAT HAD EVERYTHING THAT HAD FUN LEARNING PUPPETS UH COMEDY HUMOR DRAMA UH BRILLIANT ANIMATION AND YEAH THAT WAS A HUGE INFLUENCE WHEN I WAS A KID

A: YEAH

B: YOU KNOW

A: WELL ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SAW IT AND YOU SAW WHERE THEY LIVED IN SESAME STREET AND THE THING YOU WANTED THE MOST AS A KID WAS TO LIVE THERE OR TO KNOCK

B: YEAH

A: TO KNOCK ON BIG BIRDS DOOR AND YOU KNOW

A: YEAH

A: TO SAY YEAH I I SEE MR SCHUFFMAN BECAUSE TOO YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY

B: YEAH

A: ONE THESE LITTLE THINGS THEY USED TO REALLY

B: YEAH

A: INVOLVE YOUR IMAGINATION WHEN YOU WERE A KID IT WAS AMAZING AND THE CATCHY SONGS AND EVEN NOT JUST THE PUPPETS AND MUPPETS THAT REALLY BUT THE HUMANS WERE ENDEARING LIKE MR HOOPER AND

B: YEAH

A: THE BEAUTIFUL RED SHINY APPLES HE USED TO SELL IN HIS STORE

B: YEAH

A: YOU JUST WANTED TO GO IN THERE AND BUY SOMETHING IT WAS JUST A IT WAS LIKE A FANTASY BUT IT WAS SOMEWHERE THAT WAS ACHIEVABLE IT WAS ATTAINABLE IN OUR MINDS YOU KNOW

B: YEAH AND ALSO WAS JUST THERE WAS SO MUCH HUMOR IN IT TOO

A: MM MMH

B: AND IT KIND OF RELATED TO ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITES THAT WOULD'VE CROSSED OVER FROM THE PARENTS' GENERATION TOO WHICH WAS THE MUPPET SHOW

A: YEAH

B: AND IT WAS KIND OF HAD I USED TO KIND OF CONFUSE THE TWO I USED TO ALWAYS <OVERLAP>

A: SO DID I

B: MUPPET SHOW

A: YEAH

B: THE MUPPET SHOW WAS AN EVENING VERSION OF SESAME STREET YOU KNOW <LAUGH>

A: IT WAS THE GROWN UP SUNDAY EVENING

B: YEAH

A: BUT THE THE MAIN DIFFICULTY WAS YOU GREW UP AN ONLY CHILD WHEREAS I HAD SIBLINGS I HAD TWO BROTHERS AND BUCK ROGERS IN THE TWENTY FIFTH CENTURY WAS SCHEDULED ON AT THE SAME TIME AS THE MUPPET SHOW SO THERE WAS BLUE MURDER EVERY SUNDAY EVENING OVER WHO GOT TO WATCH WHICH

B: YEAH I WAS BLESSED BECAUSE THERE'D BE LARGE PARTS OF THE DAY THAT I WOULD HAVE THE TELEVISION JUST TO MYSELF SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO COMPETE SO WHAT WAS THAT THAT MUST HAVE BEEN TOUGH WHEN YOU'VE GOT TWO SIBLINGS AND YOU'RE BOTH OF SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT AGES

A: MM

B: AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO RECORDING FACILITIES THEN AND

A: MM

B: THAT WAS THE THING I THINK KIDS PROBABLY DON'T APPRECIATE THESE DAYS THAT YOU YOU HAD TO BE THERE YOU HAD TO SEE IT ONCE

A: YEAH

B: AND IF YOU MISSED IT YOU MISSED IT AND THAT WAS THE THING WITH TV BACK THEN THAT UM YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHEN SOMETHING MIGHT BE SHOWN AGAIN

A: MM

B: IT IT'S NOT LIKE IF YOU COULD LOOK IT UP IT MIGHT BE SHOWN ONCE AND IT COULD BE THREE YEARS LATER BEFORE IT'S IT'S SHOWN AGAIN SO YEAH

A: <LAUGH> WELL I REMEMBER GROWING UP IN THE UK YOU'D OFTEN SEE ON THE BRITISH CHANNELS YOU KNOW MENTION OF THE RADIO TIMES

B: YEAH

A: AND WE DID HAVE WE DID HAVE SOME KIND OF AN EQUIVALENT CALLED THE RTE GUIDE

B: YEAH

A: BUT NOBODY NOBODY BOUGHT US ONLY AT CHRISTMAS TO GET THE BUMPER MAYBE THREE WEEKS

B: IT WAS FIRM THAT'S WHAT IT WAS YEAH

A: SPREAD OF WHAT WAS ON YEAH SO YOU GET IT FOR THE WHOLE MONTH BUT NOBODY USED TO BUY IT SO NOBODY WOULD EVEN I DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVEN SHOWED THE TV SCHEDULE IN THE PAPERS BACK THEN IT WAS VERY RARE

B: WELL I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING OF THAT THERE WAS SO 'CAUSE THERE WOULD'VE BEEN APPROXIMATELY MAYBE AT MOST TEN OR ELEVEN CHANNELS SO AT ONE POINT IN TIME THE PAPER NEAR THE BACK PAGE USED TO HAVE A WHOLE PAGE JUST DEVOTED IN SIX OR SEVEN COLUMNS AND YOU COULD READ DOWN WHAT WAS ON SO THAT WAS A DAILY THING AND THE PAPER ALWAYS SEEMED CHEAPER THAN THE ACTUAL TV GUIDE ITSELF

A: MM

B: YOU KNOW SO

A: WHEN YOU'RE READING THE PAPER FOR OTHER THINGS AS WELL SO I THINK THEY SHARED AROUND THE FAMILY

B: AND THEN THERE WAS SO YEAH THERE WAS SO MANY CHANNELS THEN IT WAS SIMPLY NOT COST EFFECTIVE TO KIND OF TO PRINT IT

A: MM HMM

B: YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN AND REGARDING LIKE AMERICAN STUFF ESPECIALLY LIKE

A: MM

B: DRAMA SHOWS WHERE YOU GOT OUT OF THE KIND OF CARTOON AGE AND THEN YOU WOULD'VE ALL THESE SHOWS LIKE SAY MACGYVER AND THE A TEAM AND SCI FI STUFF AS A GIRL

A: UH WONDER WOMAN WONDER WOMAN

B: AS A GIRL WOULD'VE BEEN A BIG ONE FOR YOU

A: MM

B: SO WHAT WAS WONDER WOMAN

A: WONDER WOMAN WAS THE ULTIMATE FEMALE SUPERHERO AND SHE WAS A PRINCESS DIANA PRINCE DURING THE DAY AND SHE WAS SOME MYSTERIOUS AMAZONIAN PRINCESS WHO CAME TO EARTH

B: YEAH

A: I THINK SHE WAS HER I'M NOT SURE

B: YEAH

A: SHE WAS FROM ANOTHER PLANET BUT SHE ARRIVED TO HELP EARTHLINGS AND I BELIEVE IT WAS DURING WORLD WAR II WHICH WAS ANOTHER PASSION OF MINE SO THAT KIND OF HELPED ME HOPE AS WELL <LAUGH>

A: IT WAS STRANGE GROWING UP WITH TWO OLDER BROTHERS AND PLAYING TOY SOLDIERS WHAT YOU DID AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DID

B: YEAH

A: SO IT KIND IT KIND OF RUBBED OFF ON ME IN WHAT I USED TO

B: YEAH

A: WATCH BUT MY BROTHER SAID NO OBJECTION WATCHING WONDER WOMAN EITHER TRUST ME THERE WAS NEVER ANY RULES

B: YEAH

A: OVER WATCHING WONDER WOMAN THEY WERE WATCHING IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS BUT SHE WAS AN IDOL SHE WAS STRONG AND YOU KNOW FORTHRIGHT

B: YEAH

A: AND SHE SOLVED PROBLEMS AND SHE SPUN AROUND AND TURNED INTO WONDER WOMAN AND SHE HAD A BIKE AND AN INVISIBLE PLANE THAT THAT WAS JUST AMAZING

B: THERE WASN'T IT'S NOT LIKE NOW I GUESS WITH ALL THE MARVEL STUFF AND YOU KNOW I GUESS BACK THEN SHE MUST HAVE BEEN A BIG FIGURE BECAUSE CAST OF MY MIND BACK 'CAUSE I USED TO LIKE A LOT OF THE COMIC BOOK KIND OF STUFF

A: MM