B: YEAH I DID WELL IT JUST REQUIRES A LOT MORE PLANNING AND LIKE THINKING OUT OF THE BOX IT'S MUCH EASIER TO PREPARE A MEAT AND TWO VEG KINDA MEAL THAN IT IS TO PREPARE A VEGETARIAN MEAL SO IT JUST REQUIRES A LOT MORE PLANNING AND THINKING WHICH YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TIME TO DO THAT

A: YEAH AND ALSO PEOPLE THINK YOU SAVE MONEY BY EATING VEGETABLES THE THE PRICE OF VEGETABLES ARE ACTUALLY THE SAME PRICE AS MEAT THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE

B: YEAH AND WHAT ABOUT YOU DO YOU NOT UH COME FROM A VEGETARIAN BACKGROUND HERITAGE

A: YEAH THEY THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE VEGETARIAN BUT THEY NEVER PRACTICED IT I DON'T THINK ANY OF THAT FAMILY ON ON MY SIDE ACTUALLY PRACTICE THE VEGETARIAN TRADITIONS IT'S HARD TO BE A VEGETARIAN IN SOUTH AFRICA BECAUSE THE MEAT IS SO GOOD YEAH

B: MM HMM

A: UM I DID TRY TO BE A VEGETARIAN ONCE WHERE I SAW THIS THING ON UM THE TULI ELEPHANTS BEING ABUSED UM IT WAS ON TV IT WAS A DOCUMENTARY AND THEN IN PROTEST I WAS FOR A MONTH I DIDN'T EAT VEGETABLES SO YEAH THAT'S YEAH VEGETARIAN BEING A VEGETARIAN IS QUITE HARD

B: YOU REALLY TOOK YOUR STAND

A: YEAH IT WAS TERRIBLE HOW THEY WERE BEATING THEM BECAUSE THEY HAD TO THEY HAVE TO BEAT THEM WHEN THEY'RE TRAINING THEM

B: MM HMM

A: IT WAS TERRIBLE AND DO YOU UM EAT A MEAL EVERYDAY LIKE ALL THREE MEALS LIKE BREAKFAST LUNCH SUPPER OR DO YOU SKIP MEALS

B: NO I EAT ALL THREE MEALS UH I'M NOT A I'M NOT A HUGE SNACKER SO I STICK TO THE THREE MEALS A DAY

A: AND WHAT ARE YOU WHAT DO YOU LIKE FOR FOR FOR BREAKFAST THEN

B: UM BREAKFAST IS PRETTY SIMPLE JUST A BIG MUG OF COFFEE AND SOME TOAST WITH PEANUT BUTTER

A: HM OKAY SOUNDS GOOD AND LUNCH

B: UM WHATEVER'S GOING IF THERE'S LEFTOVERS OR A SANDWICH

A: YOU DON'T CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT LUNCH

B: NO IT'S NOT BREAKFAST AND LUNCH ARE NOT IMPORTANT MEALS IN MY OPINION SUPPER OR DINNER IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAL

A: HM AND HOW MANY CUPS OF COFFEE THEN DO YOU HAVE EVERY DAY

B: JUST ONE ONE CUP OF COFFEE AND THEN A CUP OF TEA IN THE AFTERNOON AND THEN SOME HERBAL TEA AT NIGHT

A: OKAY AND UM WHAT SORT OF TEA DO YOU LIKE IN THE IN THE FOR YOUR SECOND CUP I MEAN YOUR THE ONE AFTER COFFEE

B: UM SO WE HAVE FIVE ROSES TEA IT'S JUST LIKE A NORMAL CEYLON TEA BLACK TEA

A: MM HMM <DTMF> TEA

B: YEAH AND LIKE IT'S A GOOD STRONG CUP OF TEA

A: MM HMM OKAY AND THEN UM WITH TEA DO YOU HAVE A BISCUIT OR SOMETHING LIKE A HOBNOB

B: UM I DON'T REA OFTEN KEEP BISCUITS AT HOME UM BUT IF I'VE BAKED SOMETHING THEN YEAH I'D HAVE SOMETHING WITH IT

A: MM HMM

B: WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE BISCUIT YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY A FAN

A: I LIKE JAFFA CAKES THEY'RE QUITE HARD TO FIND THOUGH BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE IMPORTED UM

B: WE HAVE OUR OWN BRAND HERE

A: WHO MAKES THAT HERE

B: ONE OF THE SUPERMARKET PICK 'N PAY

A: OH OKAY

B: HAS THEIR OWN BRAND

A: AND THEN ROMANY CREAMS ARE NICE UM IT'S THAT

B: BAKERS

A: BAKE IT'S IT'S AN OATS OR <DTMF> IT'S MADE WITH OATS OR CHOCOLATES

B: I THINK SO

A: HMM AND THEN UM

B: WHAT ABOUT A CHOCOLATE DIGESTIVE

A: NO I WASN'T TOO MUCH INTO THOSE UM DIGESTIVES YEAH NOT TOO MUCH INTO DIGESTIVE UM I LIKED ITS SHORTBREAD STYLE ONES THE EET SUM MOR'S UM I THINK THIS WAS IT SCOTTISH SHORTBREAD WHAT DID THEY CALL IT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OFFICIAL NAME FOR IT

B: YEAH SHORTBREAD

A: YEAH AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE CEREALS YOU DON'T LIKE CEREALS IN THE MORNING

B: NO I HAVEN'T UH YEAH CEREALS I STOPPED EATING WHEN I WAS A KID UH AND THEN I STOPPED EATING BREAKFAST ALTOGETHER I'VE NEVER BEEN A BREAKFAST EATER I JUST COULDN'T EAT ANYTHING IN THE MORNINGS BEFORE LIKE ELEVEN OR TWELVE I HAD TO FORCE MYSELF TO START EATING IN THE MORNINGS

A: HM SURE AND WHAT IS YOUR WHEREVER YOU LIVE AND STUFF WELL WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE RESTAURANT AT THE MOMENT DO YOU LIKE GOING OUT TO RESTAURANTS

B: YEAH UM SOMETIMES IT CAN BE A BIT DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU CAN UH DO BETTER AT HOME YOURSELF UM WHAT WHAT'S A FAVORITE RESTAURANT AT THE MOMENT UH WE HAVE A RESTAURANT BY US THAT DOES A A MONDAY NIGHT BURGER SPECIAL SO YOU BUY ONE AND GET ONE FREE SO I'M PRETTY PARTIAL TO A GOOD DEAL SO WHATEVER RESTAURANT'S HAVING A GOOD DEAL IS PROBABLY WOULD BE WHERE I'D GO

A: MM HMM OKAY YEAH THE BUY ONE GET ONE FREE THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD DEAL IT'S ALWAYS A WINNER UM ARE THERE ANY LIKE INDIAN RESTAURANTS BY YOU

B: THERE'S ONE UH BUT I'VE NEVER I HAVEN'T TRIED IT YET

A: OKAY CHINESE

B: NO NO CHINESE

A: FRENCH

B: YES THERE'S A LADY IN THE TOWN THAT'S A A FRENCH BAKER SHE'S FROM THE RéUNION ISLAND UH SO SHE MAKES FRENCH PASTRIES AND STUFF THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY GOOD

A: OH UM I WAS GONNA ASK YOU ABOUT SO THE BURGER SPECIAL THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD ONE YEAH BUY ONE GET ONE FREE UM DO HAVE YOU UM YEAH SO WHAT DID YOU HAVE FOR DINNER TONIGHT

B: UM PASTA

A: MM HMM

B: JUST LIKE A PAS PASTA DISH UM YEAH AND YOU

A: YOU KNOW I HAD UM ALSO A PASTA DISH AND UH BUT WITH PORK SAUSAGES UM YOU KNOW SO THAT WAS QUITE NICE

B: INTERESTING SO DID YOUR MOM TEACH YOU TO COOK OR YOUR DAD

A: NO NOT REALLY SO MUCH UM MY DAD NEVER COOKED UM MY MOM UH SHE DID COOK UH BUT SHE DIDN'T TEACH ME REALLY BUT WHEN I GOT OLDER UM I REALIZED I NEEDED TO LEARN SO THEN I STARTED LEARNING UM YEAH SO NOW I ENJOY IT I ENJOY COOKING

B: SO IS THAT SOMETHING CULTURAL CULTURALLY WOULD WOULD A MOM TEACH A SON AN INDIAN MOTHER TEACH HER SON TO COOK OR NOT REALLY

A: NO IT'S NOT NOT REALLY YEAH IT'S NOT REALLY SOCIALLY SOCIAL SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE UH YOU KNOW BECAUSE IT'S QUITE A A SOCIETY WHERE YOU KNOW THE WOMAN IS EXPECTED TO COOK UM SO THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM SO THAT'S WHY MANY AND I BECAUSE I WAS A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER SO I USED TO TELL MY KIDS ALL THE GUYS ESPECIALLY I JUST SAY TO THEM YOU MUST LEARN HOW TO COOK BECAUSE YOU CAN IMPRESS A GIRL IF YOU COOK FOR THEM UM IF YOU MAKE DINNER FOR THEM AND UH IF YOU COOK FOR THEM SO IT GAVE THEM SOME GOOD LIFE SKILLS THAT THEY NEEDED TO LEARN

B: SO WHAT GRADES DID YOU TEACH

A: UM I TAUGHT GRADES EIGHT TO TWELVE SO THAT'S TWELVE IS LIKE MATRIC WHICH IS THE FINAL YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL UM SO YEAH I TAUGHT ENGLISH LITERATURE SO IT WAS NOVELS AND POETRY SHAKESPEARE THE USUAL STUFF YOU KNOW

B: MM HMM

A: WHICH THE KIDS HATED

B: <LAUGH> AND WHAT UM MOVIES DID YOU DO FOR FILM STUDY

A: UM WE DID LIFE OF PI WHICH IS QUITE AN INTERESTING MOVIE UM YEAH AND THEN UM THE CRUCIBLE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE WATCHED THAT ONE ABOUT THOSE GIRLS

B: MM HMM

A: WHO ACCUSE ALL THOSE PEOPLE OF BEING WITCHES YEAH IT WAS QUITE AN INTERESTING ONE UM I'M TRYING TO THINK NOW OH BUT THE SHAKESPEARE'S I ALWAYS SHOWED THEM THE MOVIES BECAUSE THEY BATTLE TO UNDERSTAND SO WE SHOWED THEM LIKE HAMLET AND UM THEY LOVED HAMLET FOR SOME REASON BECAUSE I THINK IT JUST STARTS OFF WITH KILLINGS AND MURDERS AND BLOODSHED SO THE KIDS KIDS LOVE THAT UM YEAH BUT THEY BATTLED WITH SHAKESPEARE THAT WAS TOUGH FOR THEM

B: HM

A: AND UH WHAT WHAT WAS YOUR FAVORITE BOOK IN SCHOOL THAT YOU DID

B: UM I DID WE DID A LOT OF SOUTH AFRICAN LITERATURE

A: MM HMM

B: UM SO IN THE LAST YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL I DID A BOOK CALLED SHADES

A: WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT CAN YOU REMEMBER I DON'T THINK WE DO THAT IN OUR SCHOOL

B: UM I THINK IT WAS ABOUT IT WAS ABOUT A A WHITE FAMILY A WHITE KID THAT GROWS UP AND BEFRIENDS A A BLACK CHILD THAT WORKS ON THE FARM UM SO IT WAS ALL MOST OF THE LITERATURE THAT WE HAD GOT IN SCHOOL IS A AROUND THAT SORT OF TOPIC BECAUSE OF APARTHEID

A: HM

B: SO YEAH THAT WAS

A: YEAH

B: WHAT IT WAS ABOUT

A: SHADES YEAH SO

B: WE WE ALSO DID UM

A: MM HMM

B: LORD OF THE FLIES

A: HM THAT WAS GOOD THE KIDS LIKED THAT ONE ESPECIALLY THE BOYS THAT'S THEY CAN IMAGINE THAT HAPPENING IF <NO-SPEECH>

B: SO BEING AN ENGLISH TEACHER ARE YOU AN AVID READER

A: NOT REALLY I ENJOY MOVIES MORE THAN THAN BOOKS UM YEAH SO DEFINITELY WATCHING MOVIES I ALWAYS TOLD THE KIDS I WAS AN AVID READER JUST TO MAKE THEM READ BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY AN UNTRUTH

B: A LIE SO WHAT MOVIES DO YOU ENJOY WATCHING