B: NO NO IT'S THE WAY THE WAY THE THE COUNTRY IS SHAPED EFFECTIVELY THAT ENGLAND COMES UP FURTHER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AND AS A RESULT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO BERWICK UPON TWEED WHICH IS IN ENGLAND

A: THAT'S AMAZING REALLY ISN'T IT

B: YEAH IT'S ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T REALIZE I LOVE ALL PARTS OF SCOTLAND I LOVE THE NORTH OF SCOTLAND DO YOU GO THERE MUCH

A: WELL YES I WENT AWAY LAST YEAR WE DID THE NORTH COAST FIVE HUNDRED SO WE VISITED LOTS OF DIFFERENT PLACES THERE NOT AS MANY AS THE LAST TIME WHEN WE DID IT THOUGH UH WE DIDN'T FEEL THE NEED TO VISIT OTHER PLACES AGAIN ALTHOUGH BEAUTIFUL BUT WITH WEE ONE PROBABLY A BIT TOO REMOTE FOR WHAT WE NEED BUT ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL

B: IS IT A BIT TOO MUCH FOR ROBSON

A: WELL THE HE'S GOOD AT TRAVELING THE TRAVELING ISN'T THE THE HARD BIT IT'S JUST MORE THE REMOTENESS YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE ONE AND YOU NEED SOMETHING FROM A SHOP OR WHATEVER OR CHILDREN CAN BE UNPREDICTABLE SOMETIMES SO THEIR NEEDS

B: OH ABSOLUTELY

A: THEIR NEEDS CAN BE GREAT AND YOU NEED TO SORT OF HAVE THINGS AVAILABLE TO YOU AND CERTAIN PLACES WHEN THERE ISN'T THINGS AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE IT DOES MAKE THINGS A BIT DIFFICULT ALTHOUGH BEAUTIFUL SCENERY AND LOTS OF THINGS TO DO HISTORICALLY BUT WITH A CHILD A YOUNG CHILD NOT AS MANY TO BE FAIR BUT REALLY NICE TO ENJOY AS AS AN ADULT LIKE JOHN O' GROATS FOR INSTANCE THAT'S BEAUTIFUL UP THERE BUT ONCE YOU'RE THERE THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH IN THE WAY OF THINGS TO DO PER SE BEAUTIFUL BEACH BEAUTIFUL SCENERY BUT AGAIN IT'S AWAY UP AT THE VERY VERY VERY TOP OF SCOTLAND SO IT IS JUST QUITE FAR FROM OTHER PLACES

B: YEAH JUST A WEE BIT TOO FAR AWAY IT'S A PLACE I'VE NEVER BEEN LIVED IN SCOTLAND MY WHOLE LIFE I'VE NEVER BEEN TO JOHN O' GROATS SOMEWHERE THAT I THINK IT'D BE QUITE INTERESTING TO SEE YOU'VE BEEN <DTMF>

A: OH ABSOLUTELY IT IS YOU KNOW WE TRAVELED FROM THERE BACK HOME WE DID IT ALL IN THE ONE GO AND THAT WAS A LONG JOURNEY I'M SURE IT WAS ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN HOURS BY THE TIME WE GOT HOME CONSIDERING WE'D MADE SO MANY STOPS ON THE WAY GRADUALLY TRAVELING UP BUT CERTAINLY GOING FROM THERE BACK HOME IT WAS A VERY LONG JOURNEY SO I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT FOR A DAY TRIP BUT DEFINITELY WORTH GOING TO SEE

B: NO IT'S CERTAINLY NOT SOMEWHERE I WOULD GO FOR A DAY TRIP BUT I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TRAVEL THERE AND AND JUST VISIT IT AND SAY THAT I'VE BEEN THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO FROM JOHN O' GROATS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF ENGLAND TO SAY THEY'VE WENT FROM ONE END OF BRITAIN TO THE OTHER I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TRIP

A: OH ABSOLUTELY I I'VE SEEN PEOPLE BEFORE THAT WERE DOING THE NORTH COAST FIVE HUNDRED AND THEY WERE CYCLING THEY WERE CYCLING IT AMAZING WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO WHEN THEY REALLY TEST THEIR ENDURANCE BUT CERTAINLY

B: OH ABSOLUTELY

A: I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS SOMETHING I WOULD BE ABLE TO DO TO TO CYCLE IT ALL BECAUSE THE TERRAIN IS DIFFICULT YOU KNOW EVEN IN A CAR IT'S TRICKY

B: OH ABSOLUTELY IT'S IT'S UM IT'S GETTING A LOT BUSIER UP THERE THOUGH LIKE I'VE I'VE HEARD STORIES THAT UM YOU YOU'RE TRAVELING ALONG AND AND THERE'S THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT CARS PARKED AT THE SIDE OF THE ROAD ET CETERA

A: WELL THAT'S IT WHEN WE DID IT BEFORE IT WASN'T THAT POPULAR IT WAS ONLY JUST A NEW THING BUT SINCE THEN IT'S GAINED A LOT OF ATTENTION SO AGAIN LOTS OF PEOPLE TRAVEL FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO COME AND SEE AND QUITE RIGHTFULLY SO BECAUSE SCOTLAND SHOULD BE SHOWN OFF LIKE THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY EXQUISITE SOME OF THE PLACES YOU WOULDN'T EVEN THINK IT WAS IN SCOTLAND AND WE'RE REALLY REALLY LUCKY AND BLESSED TO HAVE THAT IN OUR OWN COUNTRY BUT IN TERMS OF THE LOCALS I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT THE EXTRA TRAFFIC AND POLLUTION ALTHOUGH IN A WAY IT'S PROBABLY GOOD FOR PASSING TRADE

B: WELL ABSOLUTELY THE PEOPLE THAT WORK UP THERE AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUSINESSES UP THERE WILL BE CASHING IN BIG TIME WHICH REALLY NOW I THINK IT'S IT'S I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY GREAT THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE GETTING UM ATTENTION THAT THEY DESERVE

A: WELL THAT'S IT THESE LITTLE TOWNS UNLIKE SCOTLAND AND EDINBURGH AND OTHER BIG PLACES OTHER BIG CITIES THEY HAVE A LOT OF TOURISM COMING AND GOING WHEREAS THESE LITTLE TOWNS THEY DON'T SO I GUESS IN A WAY IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE IF THE OLDER GENERATION WOULD SEE IT THAT WAY

B: WELL PERHAPS NOT PERHAPS NOT THEY A LOT OF THE TIME PREFER A QUIET LIFE HOWEVER IT'S BRINGING MORE MONEY TO THESE LITTLE PLACES AND IT'S IT'S BOOSTING THE ECONOMY IN GENERAL UH THE NORTH COAST FIVE HUNDRED IS IS IS A LOT IS AN UNBELIEVABLE THING FOR FOR SCOTLAND TO HAVE ACHIEVED AND FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO OFFER IT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA COME AND VISIT HERE IS IS IS JUST BLOWING IN MY MIND

A: DEFINITELY IS THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO THERE AS WELL IN TERMS OF THE TRAVELING YOU KNOW YOU CAN HAVE YOU CAN TRAVEL AND CAMP YOU CAN TRAVEL IN A CAMPER VAN YOU CAN STAY IN THE LOCAL HOTELS OR BBS WHICH ARE USUALLY VERY FULL SO I RECKON IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO BOOK IT WELL IN ADVANCE I DON'T THINK YOU COULD JUST TURN UP AND EXPECT TO HAVE AVAILABILITY

B: OH NO NO WAY CERTAINLY DURING THE SUMMER UM BEING ABLE TO TO TO SECURE ANY ACCOMMODATION UP NEAR THE NORTH COAST FIVE HUNDRED DURING THE SUMMER WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE UNLESS YOU BOOKED WELL WELL WELL IN ADVANCE I THINK

A: DEFINITELY THERE'S NOT VERY MANY OF THEM AS WELL BECAUSE THESE LITTLE TOWNS ARE SMALL THEY DON'T HAVE BIG HOTELS AND IT'S USUALLY JUST SMALL BBS OR AIRBNBS THEY'RE VERY POPULAR NOWADAYS SO PERHAPS MAYBE MORE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE SELF CATERING SET UP BUT PEOPLE DON'T TEND TO STAY IN THE SAME PLACE FOR A VERY LONG TIME SO IT'S PROBABLY QUITE SUITABLE FOR THE HOSTS AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO USE THEM

B: YEAH I THINK SO I THINK YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT WITH THE AIRBNB IDEA UH I THINK YOU MIGHT FIND THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE LARGER HOUSES UP THERE AND PERHAPS RENTING OUT A ROOM OR TWO AND AND AND MAKING A BIT OF MONEY OUT OF IT I DON'T SEE WHY NOT EITHER AS LONG AS THEY'RE QUITE HAPPY TO DO THAT AND THE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY TO STAY THERE THEN YOU KNOW IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY I GUESS

A: DEFINITELY I'VE STAYED IN A FEW REALLY NICE AIRBNBS OVER THE YEARS AND IT SEEMS TO BE REALLY REALLY POPULAR NOW

B: OH REALLY WHEREABOUTS

A: UM I STAYED IN ONE IN EDINBURGH JUST LAST YEAR WITH MY FRIENDS THAT WAS REALLY NICE AND IT HAD AN ACCESS TO AN OUTDOOR SPACE AS WELL IT WAS UH

B: SOUNDS VERY OKAY SOUNDS VERY GOOD

A: IT WAS MORE OF A UPSTAIRS DOWNSTAIRS FLAT I WOULD SAY YOU KNOW IT HAD ACCESS TO DOWNSTAIRS AND UPSTAIRS AND IT WAS IT WAS REALLY REALLY NICE I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT AREA IT WAS IN NOW OF EDINBURGH BUT THAT WAS LOVELY AND QUITE REASONABLE OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE BUT WHEN IT WAS SPLIT UP BETWEEN SIX PEOPLE IT WORKED OUT VERY REASONABLE FOR THE WEEKEND AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU WOULD PAY FOR A HOTEL

B: ABSOLUTELY I CAN IMAGINE AND EDINBURGH IS ABSOLUTELY LOVELY ANYWAY LIKE A LOT OF THE HOUSES OVER THERE ARE ARE ARE SECOND TO NONE THE ARCHITECTURE IN EDINBURGH I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT

A: EDINBURGH REALLY IS A LOVELY PLACE ESPECIALLY AT CHRISTMAS TIME I ALWAYS THINK IT'S SUCH A LOVELY TO BE

B: OH ABSOLUTELY AND I BELIEVE BEING FROM GLASGOW YOU'RE YOU'RE ALMOST QUITE BIASED TOWARDS GLASGOW HOWEVER PERSONALLY I PREFER EDINBURGH I WOULD SAY I FEEL THERE'S A THERE'S A BETTER UH A BETTER VIBE OVER THERE UH THERE'S A LOT MORE RELAXED ATMOSPHERE OVER THERE THAN THAN IN GLASGOW WHAT ABOUT YOURSELF