B: SO I WAS BATTLING TO GET WORK UH IN THE INTERIOR DESIGN FIELD UM SO YEAH I STARTED OUT WORKING FOR A LAW FIRM SO IT WAS SPECIALIZING IN PROPERTY LAW UM AND I DID THAT FOR TEN TWELVE YEARS TEN OR TWELVE YEARS UM AND THEN I LEFT WORK UM AND I FOCUSED ON VOLUNTEER WORK UM AND THEN EVENTUALLY UH MY HUSBAND AND I STARTED AN ONLINE STORE SELLING UM MEN'S TIES AND ACCESSORIES

A: OH MM HMM INTERESTING AND HOW'S THAT HOW'S THAT BUSINESS GOING

B: YEAH IT'S DOING MUCH BETTER WITH THE COVID AND LOCKDOWNS AND EVERYTHING PEOPLE WEREN'T IT WAS MAINLY UH WEDDINGS THAT WE DID SO PEOPLE WEREN'T GETTING MARRIED

A: MM HMM

B: UM BUT AS SOON AS THAT LIFTED THEN IT WENT BACK TO NORMAL SO YEAH IT'S DOING PRETTY WELL

A: OKAY INTERESTING SO COVID HAD AN EFFECT ON THAT SO IN IN THE AREA I LIVE AS WELL UM BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON TOURISM UM WELL THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY SOURCE OF INCOME THE PEOPLE ARE GAME RANGERS

B: MM HMM

A: SO A LOT OF COMPANIES CLOSED DOWN HERE DURING COVID SO COVID REALLY HAD A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON UH PEOPLE HERE

B: MM HMM

A: UM SO YEAH THAT'S QUITE TRAGIC UM SO A LOT OF THESE NICE BUSINESSES HAD TO CLOSE DOWN UM I THINK WE GOT ONE MINUTE MAYBE YOU SHOULD END IT AND START AGAIN OKAY I'LL SPEAK TO YOU JUST NOW

B: OKAY

A: IGNORE_TIME_SEGMENT_IN_SCORING

B: IGNORE_TIME_SEGMENT_IN_SCORING

A: SO PARTICIPANT TWO UM CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT KIND OF GAMES YOU USED TO PLAY WHEN YOU WERE A KID

B: UM MM WHEN I WA UH WHEN I WAS A KID I USED TO PLAY WITH UM ALL THE TOYS I LIKED UH SO MUCH TO PLAY WITH DOLLS UH BUT ALSO I LIKED TO PLAY WITH UM UH WITH CARS UH MY BROTHER HAD UH A LOT OF CARS I USED TO PLAY WITH AND UH HE WAS SO ALWAYS ANGRY WHEN I WAS UH TAKING UH HIS CARS BUT HE NEVER TOOK MY DOLLS HOWEVER I MM I ALSO LIKED GOING OUT TO PLAY WITH UH MY FRIENDS FOR FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD I REALLY ENJOYED SPENDING TIME OUTSIDE WE WERE ALSO GOING TO THE BEACH TOGETHER WITH OUR FAMILIES WE WERE DOING SOME PICNIC UH WE UH WE WERE THE SAME AGE SO WE WERE GOING IN THE SAME SCHOOL IT IS FUN BEING KIDS TOO BAD IT PASSED UH SO FAST THAT TIME AND WHAT ABOUT YOU WHAT KIND OF GAMES DID YOU USE TO PLAY WHAT DID YOU DO AS A KID

A: UH WE USED TO PLAY MOSTLY OUTDOOR GAMES TOO UH UH WE WERE GATHERING UH ALL THE KIDS FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD UH I I USED TO PLAY TENNIS I LOVED IT AND UH WE WERE UH COLLECTING FLOWERS FROM ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD UH WE UH WE WERE GOING TO THE BEACH TOGETHER AND MAKING SAND SCULPTURES AND STUFF AND WE WERE PLAYING LOTS OF SPORTS OH MOSTLY OUTDOOR SPORTS AND UH ME AND MY SISTERS WERE PLAYING WE ARE WE WERE ALWAYS PLAYING WITH DOLLS MY ELDEST SISTER WAS SEWING UH DIFFERENT KINDS OF CLOTHES AND UM I WANTED TO DO THE MAKEUP AND HAIRSTYLE UM OF THE DOLLS AND I WAS REALLY ENJOYING UM PLAYING WITH THEM AND UH WE ALWAYS UM MADE COMPETITION UH WHICH DOLL HAS UH THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CLOTHES AND AT NIGHTTIME UH MOSTLY UH WITH UH ALL THE BOYS UH AND THE MALE AND FEMALE UH KIDS UH FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE WERE UH MAKING UH LIKE A SINGING FESTIVALS AND WE WERE REALLY ENJOYING UH THEM BECAUSE UH THERE WAS ALWAYS UM A WINNER OF THAT FESTIVAL SO

B: OH WE ALSO DID THAT AND UH I ALSO USED TO SEW UH SOME DRESSES FOR MY DOLLS BUT MY BROTHER ALWAYS WAS UH HIDING ME THOSE THINGS

A: OH THAT'S REALLY BAD AND HOW DID YOU FIND

B: <OVERLAP>

A: THE CLOTHES AT THE END

B: YEAH I WAS FINDING IT SOMEHOW BECAUSE UH THEY WERE ALWAYS UH ON THE SAME PLACE AND YOU KNOW <OVERLAP>

A: AND HOW OFTEN DID YOU USE TO GO TO THE BEACH WITH YOUR FRIENDS

B: MM I USED TO GO TWO OR THREE TIMES PER WEEK WE ARE LIVING NEAR THE SEA SO WE WERE OFTEN GOING UH TO A BEACH UH WE WE WERE GOING AROUND UH FOUR P M UNTIL THE SUNSET SO UH IT WAS THE BEST TIME UH TO DO TO SWIMS UH A LITTLE BIT TO PLAY WITH THE OTHER KIDS TO WATCH THE SUNSET ACTUALLY THE MM THE WATER WAS SO SO GOOD AT THAT TIME AND IT WASN'T SO MUCH CROWDED AND I REALLY ENJOYED UH THAT TIME AND YOU

A: WELL I I REALLY LOVED GOING TO THE BEACH AND I STILL LOVE IT AND WE WERE ALWAYS UM WAITING FOR SOME ADULT TO COME WITH US BECAUSE UH OUR PARENTS WON'T LET US TO GO ALONE BECAUSE WE WERE TOO YOUNG RIGHT AND UM WE WERE UM GOING ALMOST EVERY DAY DEPENDS IF UH IF AN ADULT IS FREE EVERY DAY WE WILL GO EVERY DAY AND WE USED TO GO CYCLING OR WALKING BY THE BEACH

B: YES I ALSO LIKE I LIKED CYCLING

A: YES AND I UH ALWAYS WANTED TO TO BRING UM SOME UH B BOOKS WITH ME SO WE WERE UH SWIMMING ALMOST ALL DAY AND ON THE BREAKS WE WERE READING UH BOOKS FROM SCHOOL THE TEACHER USED TO GIVE US I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER IF I HAD ANY FAVORITE BOOK BUT I REALLY ENJO ENJOYED THEM AND WHAT ABOUT YOU DID YOU BRING ANY UH BOOK ANY FAVORITE BOOKS ON THE ON THE BEACH OR YOU JUST REALLY WANTED TO GET TANNED AND SWIM ALL DAY LONG

B: UH NO I WAS BRINGING ONLY BOTH AT THE BEACH UH USUALLY I WAS READING THE BOOKS FROM FROM SCHOOL IN THE MORNING SO I HAD TO SPEND UH TWO OR THREE HOURS PER DAY UH READING UH ALL THE THE BOOKS AND UH ANOTHER PLUS UH LITERATURE I REALLY ENJOYED UH READING READING UH ALSO <NO-SPEECH> NOW WHEN I'M UM OLDER I ENJOY READING A LOT UM I HAD SOME FAVORITE BOOKS I UM I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE BOOK I LIKED SO MUCH BUT IT WAS ABOUT UH SOME TWINS UH I THINK IT WAS THE DOUBLE LOTTIE THE NAME UH ITS STORY

A: OH YES I KNOW THAT BOOK

B: YEAH YOU KNOW UH WHEN TWO UH TWO SISTERS ARE GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHERS AFTER A COUPLE OF TIMES THEY WERE UH SEPARATED AFTER THEIR BIRTH AND LUCKILY THAT BOOK HAD UH A VERY HAPPY ENDING SO I LIKED THAT BOOK A LOT

A: THAT'S GREAT

B: I CAN'T REMEMBER <NO-SPEECH> YEAH

A: I REALLY LOVED READING UH STORIES WITH MY SISTER ESPECIALLY UH BEFORE UH GOING TO BED AND UM WE WERE READING THE STORIES FROM THE CARTOONS UH WE USED TO WATCH

B: YEAH ALSO ME AND MY BROTHER WERE WATCHING CARTOONS ALL THE TIME WELL ACTUALLY NOT ALL THE TIME BUT UH FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS PER DAY LET'S SAY TWO OR THREE BECAUSE UH MY MOTHER AND MY FATHER DIDN'T LET ME LET US WATCH UH FOR THE WHOLE DAY I LIKED THE CARTOONS ESPECIALLY TOM JERRY UH THE <DTMF> SPONGEBOB ESPECIALLY AND ALSO NOW I'M WATCHING SPONGEBOB FROM TIME ON TIME I ALSO LIKE SIMPSONS AND UH YEAH <OVERLAP>

A: MAYBE FROZEN

B: I'M SORRY

A: FROZEN

B: YEAH ALSO FROZEN IT'S REALLY NICE CARTOON

A: YES IT WAS VERY POPULAR

B: BUT THEN I LIKED TO WATCH CARTOONS THAT HAD YEAH THAT HAS SO MANY MANY EPISODES LIKE THE SIMPSONS OR TOM JERRY AND I THINK FROZEN WAS SOMETHING LIKE TWO OR THREE EPISODES IT'S LIKE A MOVIE RIGHT

A: YES YES AS I REMEMBER AND UH DID YOU UH USE TO PLAY ANY SPORTS ON THE BEACH FOR EXAMPLE UH WE LOVED PLAYING VOLLEYBALL OR JUST SOME REGULAR SPORT UH GAMES IN THE WATER BECAUSE UM I REALLY LOVED SPORTS I USED TO PLAY BASKETBALL WHEN I WAS YOUNGER AND UM TODAY UH TILL TODAY I REALLY I REALLY LOVE SPORTS IN GENERAL AND THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS UH AND WE USED TO UH PLAY DIFFERENT KINDS OF SPORTS ON THE BEACH

B: YEAH ALSO WE WERE USED TO PLAY A LOT OF UH SPORTS IN THE BEACH WE WERE PLAYING VOLLEYBALL AND UH WE WERE PLAYING DIFFERENT SPORTS UH IN THE WATER BUT UH WE LIKED TO SWIM A LOT UH I'M A VERY GOOD SWIMMER SO I LIKED TO COMPETE WITH THE OTHERS UH NOT ONLY WITH MY FRIENDS BUT ALSO WITH MY FAMILY SO I'M ALWAYS UH MORE INTO THE WATER SWIMMING THAN UH PLAYING SOME SPORTS ALSO NOW I'M A VERY SPORT PERSON SO I LIKE UH RUNNING PLAYING G I I DO PLAY ALSO NOW VOLLEYBALL UH I LIKE DOING PILATES I LIKE UH PLAYING TENNIS I'M I'M VERY UH ATTACHED PERSON TO THE NATURE SO I LIKE ALSO SPENDING TIME IN THE NATURE I LIKE UH GOING AROUND TO THE SEA I LIKE GOING IN THE MOUNTAINS I LIKE UH SKIING UH WANTING I HAVEN'T LEARNED TILL NOW AND THAT IS SNOWBOARDING AND UH THIS WINTER WHEN WE ARE GOING TO THE MOUNTAINS I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOME UH SNOWBOARDING AS WELL DID YOU HAVE YOU DONE IT BEFORE