B: I LIKE HAVING ACQUAINTANCES AND BEING FRIENDLY EVEN IF I DON'T KNOW PEOPLE LIKE I LIKE TO SAY HI

A: YEAH NICE

B: OR START A CONVERSATION BUT NOT GET TOO CLOSE WITH MOST PEOPLE BUT JUST A FEW <LAUGH> SO YEAH

A: YEAH I THINK UH AGAIN I THINK UNDERSTANDING UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO OPEN UP TO EVERYONE AND THE FEW PEOPLE THAT YOU DO OPEN UP TO AND YOU DECIDE TO OPEN TO UH IS STILL A BIG THING SO REGARDLESS YOU HAVE LIKE A SMALL AMOUNT OR A BIG AMOUNT OF FRIENDS IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE UH FRIENDS WHERE WE CAN OPEN UP I THINK THAT'S THE THE BIG THING WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON WHEN WHEN WE THINK ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS AND FRIENDSHIP IT'S LIKE ASKING YOURSELF AM I OKAY TO OPEN UP IS THIS ACTUAL FRIENDSHIP WAS THIS SOMETHING WHAT I THINK IS A FRIENDSHIP BUT REALLY IT'S JUST YOU KNOW ME JUST ME JUST GOING AROUND TO LOADS OF PEOPLE BEING LIKE HEY WHAT'S UP WHAT'S UP LOOK I HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS

B: YEAH

A: <OVERLAP> YOU KNOW IS THAT

B: YEAH BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S JUST ONE LIKE UM WAY TO HAVE A CLOSE FRIEND LIKE CLOSENESS IS DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE 'CAUSE WITH MY CLOSE FRIENDS OR WHO I THINK ARE MY CLOSE FRIENDS

A: YEAH

B: I DON'T REALLY REALLY EVEN NEED TO TALK TO THEM TOO MUCH IT'S MORE KIND OF LIKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE MEET A FEW TIMES A YEAR HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION

A: YEAH

B: AND THEN WE LIKE LIVE IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND EVERYTHING WE DON'T REALLY

A: BUT YEAH YEAH BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IT'S LIKE I GUESS THE DIFFERENT THERE'S DIFFERENT LIKE LAYERS TO IT OF LIKE WHAT IF LIKE HOW CLOSE YOU CAN BE TO A FRIEND FOR ME WHEN I SAY CLOSE FRIEND

B: MM HMM

A: I MEAN SOMEONE GENUINELY LIKE I CAN OPEN UP WITH I'M TALKING TO MAYBE NOT MOST ALL THE TIME BUT I CAN YOU KNOW LIKE

B: YEAH

A: THAT LEVEL OF RELIANCE BUT THIS IS SOMEONE WHICH I CAN BE VULNERABLE WITH YOU KNOW AND

B: OKAY I THINK YEAH

A: UH THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT'S I MEAN BUT NOT EVERYBODY'S LIKE THAT THOUGH 'CAUSE YOU KNOW <OVERLAP>

B: YEAH YEAH

A: UH 'CAUSE NOT EVERYBO 'CAUSE NOT EVERYBODY CAN BE EVEN VULNERABLE TO THEMSELVES YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY REPRESSIVE SO IT'S IT'S LIKE I GUESS IT'S IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EACH FOR ME THAT IS IT'S THIS CASE FOR ME

B: YEAH I THINK EVERYONE HAS THEIR IDEA OF WHAT BEING CLOSE TO SOMEONE IS

A: YEAH

B: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER BUT I TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT STORY OF THOSE TWO FRIENDS OF MINE THAT KIND OF STOPPED SPEAKING BECAUSE ONE OF THEM FELT LIKE THE OTHER ONE WAS NOT

A: YEAH

B: PUTTING ENOUGH WORK INTO IT WHILE THE OTHER

A: YEAH

B: ONE WAS JUST THINKING THAT THEY WERE JUST DOING ENOUGH 'CAUSE THEIR

A: YEAH

B: IDEAS OF CLO CLOSENESS SHOULD BE

A: YEAH

B: LIKE WAS DIFFERENT SO YEAH

A: YEAH IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT YEAH YEAH UH I HAVE A QUESTION AS WELL

B: GO FOR IT

A: WHEN YOU WERE WHEN YOU WERE A KID WHAT KIND OF GAMES DID YOU PLAY

B: THAT'S A LONG STORY <LAUGH> I WAS A I WAS A KID A LONG TIME

A: IT'S OKAY

B: LET ME LET ME THINK

A: SUMMARIZE IT JUST SUMMARIZING LIKE JUST GIVE A K A FEW JUST GIVE ME LIKE A FEW

B: UM BECAUSE OF MY BROTHERS I PLAYED MOSTLY LIKE WHAT'S CONSIDERED BOYS GAMES SO I PLAYED COUNTER STRIKE GTA SHOOTING GAMES NEED FOR SPEED I THINK I PLAYED BARBIE GAMES ON MY OWN BUT BECAUSE

A: YEAH

B: THEY WERE LIKE COMPETITIVE INTO SHOOTING I DID A LOT OF

A: YEAH

B: COUNTER STRIKE SO YEAH

A: DID YOU EVER HAVE STORYLINES DID YOU HAVE STORYLINES WITH YOUR BARBIES

B: <LAUGH> UH NO

A: <OVERLAP> MEMORABLE STORIES

B: I REMEMBER PLAYING A BARBIE DRESS UP GAME UH WHERE THEY WOULD GO ON A RUNWAY AFTER AND I

A: MM HMM

B: ACTUALLY REMEMBER HAVING SO MUCH FUN WITH IT AND I TRIED TO LOOK IT UP RECENTLY AND I JUST COULDN'T

A: YEAH

B: FIND THE EXACT GAME 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY

A: YEAH

B: BARBIE GAMES

A: YEAH

B: I WISH I COULD I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BRING SO MANY MEMORIES FOR ME

A: YEAH YEAH YEAH

B: BUT YEAH I THINK A LOT OF COUNTER STRIKE FOR SURE

A: WHAT DID YOU ENJOY ABOUT THOSE GAMES

B: UH I THINK GTA I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO PLAY IT I JUST WENT AROUND

A: RIGHT YEAH BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE FUN OF IT YOU JUST DON'T REALLY KNOW IT YOU JUST ROAMING AROUND LIKE FREE

B: YEAH BUT THERE'S MISSIONS IN GTA SO

A: YEAH IT'S A REALLY NICE STORY TOO AS WELL ABOUT YOU

B: I DON'T KNOW THE STORY

A: YEAH

B: I WOULD JUST PLAY LIKE STEALING CARS AND EVERYTHING I THINK I ENJOYED COUNTER STRIKE THE MOST BECAUSE OF THE SOCIAL ASPECT OF IT 'CAUSE YOU COULD CHAT WITH PEOPLE AND ALSO

A: YEAH

B: GET TO KNOW PEOPLE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM MY TOWN WOULD PLAY SO IT WAS A WAY

A: THAT'S NICE

B: OF MEETING SOMEONE <LAUGH>

A: THAT WAS NICE

B: YEAH WHAT ABOUT YOU WHAT WHAT GAMES DID YOU PLAY I THINK YOU HAVE A BIGGER HISTORY OF GAMING <LAUGH>

A: OH YEAH NO WITH LIKE WITH GAME YEAH HUNDRED PERCENT BUT IF I HAD TO REALLY BOIL IT DOWN LET'S SAY AROUND THE ERA WHERE I PLAYED UH ON MY FIRST CONSOLE WHICH WAS A P S TWO I THINK THERE'S I HAVE THOUSANDS OF GAMES BUT THE ONES THAT I MM PROBABLY DEEM PROBABLY MOST MEMORABLE AND LIKE MY PROBABLY DEFINITELY THE TOP TOP ONES I ENJOYED SO MUCH IS DEFINITELY UM GTA GTA SAN ANDREAS WAS SO FUN

B: MM

A: ALTHOUGH ALTHOUGH I WAS A KID YOU KNOW IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A GAME FOR A KID IT WAS JUST LIKE HAVING THE FREEDOM TO ROAM AROUND AND DO THESE KIND OF COOL STORY MISSIONS AND LIKE ACTUALLY INVOLVE IT WASN'T THE MOST IMMER I DON'T KNOW IT WAS IMMERSIVE FOR ITS TIME I GUESS BUT IT WASN'T CRAZY IMMERSIVE BUT IT WAS A NICE STORYLINE IT WAS A VERY MATURE STORYLINE BUT I STILL F FOUND IT VERY COOL AND UH IT JUST HAD THE WHOLE FANTASY OF LIKE BEING BEING BEING THIS RECKLESS YOU KNOW CRAZY PROTAGONIST PROTAGONIST <OVERLAP>

B: ANTAGONIST <LAUGH>

A: ANTAGONIST YEAH DEFINITELY ANTAGONIST

B: PROBABLY

A: ANTAGONIST THAT'S TRUE UH BUT ANOTHER FOND MEMORY I HAVE OF A GAME IS THIS UH ONE COMPUTER GAME I PLAYED ON THE LAPTOP AND IT WAS LIKE CALLED POPTROPICA SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND UM YOU'RE LIKE LITTLE UH LIKE LIKE BASICALLY LIKE CARTOON CHARACTERS AND YOU JUMP ABOUT AND IT WAS LIKE A COOL LITTLE STORY IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING'S IN THE TWO D IT'S ALL ON TWO D SO EVERYTHING'S FLAT TWO D SO UM UH IT WAS IT WAS REALLY COOL IT WAS FUN IT WAS JUST I HAD A LOT OF CHILDHOOD MEMORIES ON IT I USED TO PLAY WITH IT PLAYED ON IT WITH MY UH WITH MY UH CHILDHOOD FRIEND AND IT WAS JUST REALLY COOL AND I THINK I LIKED THAT AGAIN BECAUSE IT HAD LIKE A CARTOONY KIND OF PLAYFUL FEELING TO IT AND IT WAS REALLY NICE AND FUN THOSE ARE TWO

B: DID YOU EVER DID YOU EVER PLAY PAPA'S PIZZ PIZZERIA OR <OVERLAP>

A: NO NO NO I JUST HAD

B: NO

A: NO <LAUGH>

B: UH EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS OF MY CHILDHOOD AND EVEN PROBABLY ADULT YEARS I WOULD START PLAYING IT FOR FUN AND THEN I WOULD GET ADDICTED 'CAUSE YOU WANNA EXPAND MORE AND MORE AND MORE YEAH THAT WAS

A: YEAH

B: ONE OF THE ONLINE GAMES I THINK I PLAYED A LOT OF S LIKE MINI GAMES LIKE NOT THE ONES THAT YOU

A: YEAH

B: HAVE TO DOWNLOAD AND STUFF BUT JUST FIND

A: YEAH YEAH

B: SOMETHING ONLINE

A: YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

B: YEAH FOR SURE

A: THAT REMINDS ME I THINK THE MAJOR MOST MAJOR GAME DEFINITELY HAS TO BE ROBLOX NOW THINK ABOUT IT UH

B: YEAH YEAH YEAH

A: YEAH

B: I WAS GONNA SAY I THINK <NO-SPEECH>

A: YEAH ROBLOX I THINK 'CAUSE WHEN I WHEN I ENTERED THERE FIRST WE WOULD ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO NOW IT WAS LIKE TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN

B: WOW