A: FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND SCHOOL IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT 'CAUSE IT DEPENDS ON IF YOU'RE INVESTED IN SCHOOL OR NOT FOR ME FOR ME UH YEAH I CAN DO EVERYTHING FAMILY WANT ME TO DO IT'S SO COOL SOMETIMES I'M FORGETFUL AND USUALLY I'M FORGETFUL BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I WON'T DO IT IF YOU REMIND ME I'LL DO IT I'M MOTIVATED TO DO IT UM SCHOOL I'M MOTIVATED TO DO THE THINGS THAT WHICH I ENJOY AND THINGS THAT I'M NOT REALLY GOT GOT MUCH INTEREST OR PASSIONATE ABOUT THEN I HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING MOTIVATED ABOUT BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S ALL DIFFERENT ACROSS THE BOARD THERE'S NO LIKE ONE GENERAL LIKE MOTIVATION IT'S KIND OF MIXED REALLY FOR ME

B: OKAY FAIR ENOUGH

A: HOW ABOUT YOURSELF

B: UM I THINK MY MOTIVATION DEPENDS A LOT OF MY ON MY PHYSICAL WELL BEING BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE LIKE A BIT ANEMIC LIKE I AM UH YOU'RE JUST LIKE LIFE ENERGY GETS SUCKED OUT OF YOU

A: YEAH

B: AND YOU'RE NOT LIKE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION ISN'T EVEN IN QUESTION 'CAUSE I JUST NEED TO LAY IN BED BUT I DON'T THINK I'VE DESCRIBED MYSELF AS LAZY SOMETIMES I JUST NEED TO SAY OKAY I CAN'T DO THESE THINGS TODAY AND THAT'S IT I GUESS I DO PROCRASTINATE ON WORK QUITE A BIT

A: YEAH

B: OBVIOUSLY 'CAUSE

A: THAT'S REALLY <OVERLAP> YEAH DEFINITELY PROCRASTINATION

B: PROCRASTINATION BUT ALWAYS DO IT ON TIME SOMEHOW

A: YEAH

B: I GUESS

A: YOU JUST SAY YOU'RE MOTIVATED THAT UH WHEN YOU'RE AT THE LAST STRAW

B: YEAH I GUESS MY MOTIVATION IS LIKE UM

A: THE SAME AS ME

B: IT DEPENDS ON FREE WILL LIKE IF I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO DO SOMETHING OR I HAVE TO DO IT I PUT IT OFF BUT IF SOMETHING IS BY MY FREE WILL

A: YEAH

B: THEN I DO IT FASTER AND I'M MO MORE MOTIVATED

A: YEAH 'CAUSE IT COMES FROM A PLACE

B: I DON'T KNOW

A: IT DOESN'T COME FROM A PLACE OF FORCING

B: MM HMM

B: YEAH

A: YEAH IT'S AWESOME I LOVE THEM UM UH TO DO OKAY MY QUESTION IS UH DO YOU BELIEVE THERE IS ANYTHING AFTER DEATH

B: OH UH I IT'S SUCH A LOADED QUESTION

A: IT'S SIMPLE ONE I GUESS I DON'T KNOW <OVERLAP>

B: NO IT'S NOT NO IT'S NOT NO IT'S NOT FOR ME PERSONALLY OKAY

A: WHAT DO YOU THINK WHAT DO YOU THINK WHA

B: I I DON'T THINK

A: WHAT DO YOU YEAH

B: I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS SUCH

A: KNOW FOR SURE RIGHT

B: HUH

A: I SAID OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T KNOW FOR SURE BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DEATH BUT

B: NO NO NO EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION ON ON IT I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING SUCH AS LIKE WHA LIKE REINCARNATION OR HEAVEN OR HELL LIKE ALL THOSE THINGS ARE SUCH C CO LIKE UH SUCH MATERIAL CONCEPTS THAT WERE JUST LIKE UH THAT'S WHAT WE CAN THINK OF WITH OUR LIMITED HUMAN CAPACITY TO THINK I THINK WHATEVER COMES AFTER YOU DIE WITH YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS SOMETHING THAT THE HUMAN BRAIN CANNOT COMPREHEND AND THEREFORE

A: UH HUH

B: IT CANNOT BE PUT IN TERMS OF WORDS OR EVEN SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IMAGINE

A: RIGHT

B: IT'S JUST SOMETHING WAY BEYOND

A: FAIR

B: I THINK WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE BODY IS CLEAR BUT

A: RIGHT YEAH

B: WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CONSCIOUSNESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T COMPREHEND AND THEREFORE I CAN ONLY DREAM OR IMAGINE ABOUT IT BUT I CAN'T REALLY I CAN'T REALLY

A: YEAH

B: BUY THE IDEA THAT I COME BACK AS SOMETHING OR THAT I

A: <OVERLAP>

B: MOVE ON TO LIKE THIS HEAVEN OR HELL I I DON'T KNOW

A: OKAY YEAH YEAH

B: I THINK SOME SORT OF ENERGY THAT IS LEFT BEHIND ME EVEN IF IT'S LIKE A PHYSICAL SENSE OF ENERGY OR

A: YEAH

B: WHATEVER THAT CAN TRANSFORM INTO OTHER THINGS MATERIAL EVEN EVEN OR EVEN

A: YEAH YEAH

B: OTHER PEOPLE SO IN THAT SENSE IT COULD BE SIMILAR TO REINCARNATION BUT YEAH

A: YEAH YEAH THAT'S INTERESTING YEAH

B: OKAY WHAT ABOUT YOU

A: I THINK YOU I THINK YOU'RE DEFINITELY I THINK I HAD A I THINK I HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH IT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T FATHOM <OVERLAP>

A: GLIMPSES OF AND TOUCH BUT I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN FAR AHEAD AND THEY'VE BEEN UNDER THEY'VE FELT AND I'VE EXPERIENCED THE UNFATHOMABLE UNFATHOMABLE AND THEY'VE KIND OF LIKE YOU KNOW THEY GAVE INTO THE DIALECTS BUT AGAIN THAT'S JUST THINGS LIKE WE'VE BEEN TOLD AND IT'S LIKE SOME THINGS LIKE THINGS LIKE HEAVEN ALL THIS HEAVEN AND HELL AND THINGS LIKE YEAH IT'S PROJECTIONS OF LIKE YOU KNOW DIFFERENT STATES OF WHATEVER THIS AND THIS AND THIS

B: I JUST THINK

A: FOR ME FOR FOR ME FOR ME PERSONALLY FOR ME PERSONALLY LIKE I'M BASING MY EXPERIENCE AND FEELING IT FEELS LIKE OKAY THIS IS LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE LIKE THERE IS I DON'T KNOW EVEN ISN'T EVEN A FORM OF LIKING IT'S LIKE WELL WHATEVER HAPPENS HAPPENS BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THERE'S THERE THERE IS THERE IS REINCARNATION FOR NO REASON THERE COULD BE POSSIBLY REINCARNATION BUT THERE'S SOMETHING IT'S SOMETHING THERE'S DEFINITELY DIFFERENT HIGHER PLANES OF EXISTENCE AND LIKE REALITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH WE CAN DEFINITELY TRANSCEND BUT THERE DEFINITELY ISN'T JUST THE END OF BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S THE END OF ANYTHING I THINK THERE'S A VERY THERE'S A CONTINUATION OF LIKE A A STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE UH THEN PLUS WITH US GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE IT ALWAYS IS SOMEWHERE LIKE IT'S ALWAYS CONSTANT IT'S IT'S ALWAYS SOMEWHERE IT'S ALWAYS SOMEWHERE OR SOMEPLACE BUT I I DO BELIEVE I DO BELIEVE THERE IS LIKE A THOUGHT OF OF REINCARNATION AGAIN THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TAPPED INTO UNDERSTANDING UH UNDERSTANDING

B: OKAY

A: A MORE DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF LIFE AND THAT I THINK THAT RANGES FROM PEOPLE UH I THINK WHEN I WAS READING THIS BOOK RECENTLY UH IT'S TALKING ABOUT HOW UM UH IF YOU YOU KNOW PEOPLE HAVE A PAST REGRESSION LIKE YOU KNOW PEOPLE CAN LEARN ABOUT THEIR PAST LIVES YOU KNOW AND WHEN THEY WHEN THEY LEARN ABOUT THEIR PAST LIVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THEY USUALLY DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT REMINDS THEM THAT YOU KNOW THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHICH I THINK YOU KNOW IT MAKES ME FEEL AS IF LIKE WE'VE BEEN WE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS IN LIFE ESPECIALLY IN THIS EXISTENCE ON THIS PLANE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS A LOT A LOT OF THINGS AND I THINK UH IT FEELS ALMOST IT FEELS MORE LIKE UM WE'LL REINCARNATE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN MAYBE NOT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN BUT MAYBE REINCARNATE IN DIFFERENT FORM BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS WHEN WE MOVE INTO SOME OTHER PLANE I THINK

B: OKAY THAT'S FAIR WELL WE NEED TO START ANOTHER MEETING SO BECAUSE THIS ONE'S OUT OF TIME SO

A: HAS THIS FULLY ENDED

B: UH NO IT HASN'T YET BUT IT WILL IN A MINUTE BUT

A: YEAH

B: I'LL JUST SEND YOU AN INVITE AGAIN OKAY

A: YEAH

B: BECAUSE A FORTY MINUTE LIMIT AND UNLESS YOU UPGRADE SO I'LL JUST SEND YOU

A: OKAY

B: OKAY BE RIGHT BACK

A: OKAY

A: HELLO

B: HELLO

A: HELLO HOW ARE YOU

B: I'M GREAT THANK YOU HOW ABOUT YOU

A: I AM GOOD <LAUGH> OKAY SO UH TODAY WE'RE GONNA START OUR CONVERSATION UH THIS CONVERSATION HAPPEN BECAUSE IT HELP UH <DTMF> TO TO ABOUT THE RESEARCH IS ABOUT OUR CONVERSATION AND IT IS PART OF UH THE RESEARCH IN UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH SO YEAH AND UH BEFORE WE START OUR CONVERSATION WE HAVE TO UH SAY ABOUT WE HAVE TO STATE OUR OUR WE HAVE TO STATE OUR PARCIP PARTICIPANT NUMBER SO MY PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS F C TWENTY SEVEN P ONE UH HOW ABOUT YOU

B: OKAY MY PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS F C TWENTY SEVEN P TWO

A: OKAY SO THE NEXT THING WE HAVE TO DO IS A UH WE HAVE TO READ THE PRESETS SO UH WE LET ME START TO READ THE PRESETS SO AFTER I READ THE PRESET YOU HAVE TO READ THE PRESETS OKAY AND

B: OKAY

A: IGNORE_TIME_SEGMENT_IN_SCORING

B: IGNORE_TIME_SEGMENT_IN_SCORING

A: OKAY OKAY GOOD UM OKAY CURRENTLY UH WE CAN START OUR CONVERSATION THIS IS THE UH <DTMF> CONVERSATION SO YEAH PLEASE ENJOY IT AND AND RELAX DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY OKAY

B: OKAY

A: UM SO WE START WITH LET ME UH UH I THINK WE HAVE TO UH INTRODUCE OURSELVES SO I THINK UH CAN YOU START ABOUT <LAUGH> CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT YOUR UH YOUR

B: MYSELF

A: YEAH <LAUGH>

B: OKAY I WANNA INTRODUCE MYSELF TO YOU

A: MM HMM MM HMM

B: UH FOR NOW YOU CAN CALL ME UH P PS UH F C TWENTY SEVEN P TWO

A: OKAY