B: I MEAN IT DOES MAKE SENSE BUT IT WOULD MEAN THAT WE SPEND LIKE MOST OF ONE DAY IN A CAR

A: OH WELL WE DON'T NEED TO LIKE DRIVE DIRECTLY THERE WE CAN LIKE STOP YOU KNOW AFTER INVERNESS FOR EXAMPLE OR I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER IS THERE

B: HMM

A: UH OR LIKE CAMP

B: THAT

A: AT LOCH NESS YOU KNOW

B: THAT IS TEMPTING ACTUALLY OH MAN WE COULD YEAH WE COULD CAMP AT LOCH NESS AND THEN I THINK SOMEBODY WANTED TO STAY THERE OR SEE LOCH NESS AND I LIKE THAT I'M SO EXCITED

A: YEAH THEY WANT THEY WANTED TO SEE IT AT LEAST ONCE I THINK

B: SO THAT'S NOT BAD WE COULD DO A DAY AT LOCH NESS THE FIRST DAY AND I'M SURE THERE'S LIKE SOME HIKING TO BE DONE

A: SO

B: AND THE CAMPING THERE IS REALLY NICE

A: YEAH SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS WHAT WOULD BE BETTER TO TO DRIVE BECAUSE IT'S IT'S OBVIOUSLY EASIER TO DRIVE ON THE MAIN ROAD RIGHT SO

B: MM HMM

A: IT WOULD SAVE US SOME TIME SO DO WE WANT TO SAVE TIME IN THE BEGINNING OR ON THE WAY BACK BECAUSE WE CAN ALSO DO THE REVERSE UH

B: NO I I THINK I LIKE IT I LIKE IT MORE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE AT FIRST IT'S THE PLACES I KNOW AND I'VE BEEN TO

A: YEAH YEAH

B: UM BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TO AND SO IT'S LIKE STILL EXCITING AND FUN

A: YES

B: BUT THEN THE END OF THE TRIP IS THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS I HAVEN'T SEEN YET AND I'M MORE EXCITED ABOUT IT AND I WANT TO REMEMBER IT MORE

A: OKAY YEAH THAT'S I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT YEAH

B: I'M INTO THAT IDEA RIGHT

A: OKAY SO HOW LONG WOULD THE DRIVE FROM FROM EDINBURGH TO I DON'T KNOW INVERNESS BE

B: YEAH

A: UH THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE PRETTY FAST ACTUALLY RIGHT IT'S LIKE THREE HOURS

B: YEAH THREE OR FOUR HOURS

A: SO AND THEN WE CAN TURN YOU KNOW TURN LEFT TO TO LOCH NESS AND LIKE

B: YEAH THREE HOURS LIKE THREE AND A HALF TO GET SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN CAMP

A: YEAH

B: TO A NICE PLACE FOR CAMPING

A: YEAH YEAH WE CAN EVEN GET TO THE PLACE YOU KNOW WHERE WE

B: MM HMM

B: STOP DURING DURING OUR

B: SO IT'S REALLY GOOD

B: OUR CANOE MISFORTUNES

B: <LAUGH> I REALLY ENJOYED IT THERE UH GREAT

A: IT DO YOU KNOW

B: THAT'S A GOOD OPTION SO WE'LL BE THERE LIKE YOU KNOW EARLY AFTERNOON

A: YES

B: UH SO ONE I'LL TAKE NOTES WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR PLANNING ONE OF THE THINGS IS WHAT TO DO AT LOCH NESS

B: WELL I I THINK I ACTUALLY THINK THEN WE THAT WE WILL HAVE TO STAY TO TO GET INTO ONE OF THE DISTILLERIES THERE YOU KNOW BECAUSE THAT PATH IS ACTUALLY FULL OF DISTILLERIES

B: OH YEAH GOOD POINT

B: SO WE CAN WE CAN GET SOME SOME SOME BOOZE ON THE WAY <LAUGH> THE DRIVER WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR A BIT BUT THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T MIND

B: IT'S FINE THE SPEYSIDE BUT SPEYSIDE IS USUALLY CLOSED

A: MM HMM

B: UM FOR GUESTS THERE IS

A: I THINK

B: ED EDRADOUR IN PITLOCHRY UM NEVER BEEN THERE

A: IN PITLOCHRY OKAY SO SPEYSIDE IS ACTUALLY CLOSED I SEE

B: UH I IT'S HARDLY EVER OPEN FOR VISITORS

A: MM HMM YEAH I MEAN YOU CAN I MEAN I'M I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT OR WHATEVER YOU SAY

B: YEAH BUT THERE'S ALSO LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DETOUR A LITTLE BIT EAST THERE'S TOMINTOUL

A: YEAH

B: UM BENROMACH THAT WOULD BE COOL

B: BENROMACH IS IT OH IT IS KIND OF UM

B: IT'S ON THE COAST

A: OH ON THE COAST OKAY

B: UP NORTH FROM THE COAST

A: YEAH

B: LIKE A LITTLE BIT EAST FROM INVERNESS

A: YES I SEE

B: YEAH

A: UH

B: THAT SOUNDS PRETTY NICE I LIKE BEN BENROMACH

A: OKAY CAN WE DO THAT EASILY OR IS IT LIKE A BIG DETOUR

B: IT'S NOT A BIG DETOUR 'CAUSE IT'S ON THE MAIN ROAD

A: YEAH IT ACTUALLY THERE IS ACTUALLY EVEN A A PATH FROM YOU KNOW ARDMORE TO TO THAT PLACE

B: OH YES YEAH

A: SO IN FACT WE ARE JUST LIKE HALF AN HOUR DETOUR

B: RIGHT WHICH

A: OKAY SO

B: IS PERFECTLY FINE THE DAYS ARE SO LONG

A: SO WE CAN DO THAT WE CAN JUST LIKE DRIVE TO THE DISTILLERY AND WHICH MEANS WE ARE ALMOST THERE RIGHT SO FROM THERE

B: MM HMM

A: TO TO INVERNESS INTO THE CAMPING PLACE IS IS REALLY EASY

B: YES

A: SO WE CAN SLOWLY GET THERE AND YOU KNOW EVEN IF WE GET A CAR MUCH MUCH LATER THAN WE PLAN FOR WHATEVER CIRCUMSTANCES WE'LL STILL

B: MM HMM

B: NOT BE STRESSED BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A RELATIVELY EASY DRIVE AND WE ALREADY SEE A LOT AND WE CAN EVEN LIKE PLAN ANOTHER STOP ON THE WAY JUST YOU KNOW TO SHOW THEM SOMETHING IF WE WANT FOR EXAMPLE TO DO SOMETHING IN EVEN IN IN CAIRNGORM OR WHATEVER AROUND THAT AREA

B: IN THE CAIRNGORMS YEAH WE COULD GO SOMEWHERE

A: YEAH WELL NOT I DON'T KNOW NOT NECESSARILY MAYBE ENTERING THERE BECAUSE IT'S IF IT'S EACH DAY IS A BIT OF RESCINDING

B: AND THERE'S LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SMALL UH LOT OF SMALL HIKES SMALL WALKS IN THE CAIRNGORMS THAT ARE LIKE DESIGNED TO SHOW YOU YOU KNOW WATERFALLS OR

A: OKAY YEAH SO SO MAYBE WE CAN LIKE PLAN SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN WE GET TO DISTILLERY AND THEN WE DRIVE TO INVERNESS AND TO LOCH LOMOND AND YEAH JUST JUST CAMP THERE

B: YEAH

A: THAT WOULD BE DAY ONE

B: COOL I'M JUST CHECKING IF THEY HAVE TOURS <OVERLAP> THERE'S VARIETY OF TOURS IN THE DISTILLERY

A: OKAY

B: ONE OF THEM LASTS TWO HOURS AND COSTS SEVENTY FIVE QUID INTERESTING

A: IS THERE ONE THAT LASTS LESS AND COSTS LESS

B: <LAUGH> THERE'S AN HOUR AND A HALF FOR TWENTY FIVE POUNDS AND AN HOUR FOR TEN POUNDS

A: OKAY WELL WE'LL DECIDE

B: YEAH OH I THINK THE CHEAP ONE THEY DO DON'T ACTUALLY DO A TASTING

A: THEY DON'T DO A TASTING HUH

B: IT'S LIKE THE TWENTY FIVE POUNDS ONE

A: YEAH YEAH UH DO IS IT WOULD IT BE AVAILABLE CAN WE ALREADY SEE THE DATES THAT THEY'RE OPEN OR NOT

B: NO YOU NEED TO SEND A REQUEST WHICH I WILL DO

A: OKAY

B: YEAH THAT'S FINE

A: SO YOU KNOW THE DATE

B: THAT WOULD BE THE FOUR FIFTEENTH RIGHT

A: YEAH FIFTEENTH UH WHAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE TIME

B: WELL LET'S SAY WE ARE NOT DOING IT VERY HARDCORE SO SO WE PICK UP THE CAR AT NINE

A: YEAH

B: GETTING THERE FROM EDINBURGH IS LIKE THREE AND A HALF HOURS I THINK

A: YES SO I GUESS WE WOULD NEED AND IF WE STILL WANT TO STOP THEN WE PROBABLY NEED AT LEAST THREE MORE HOURS

B: LIKE FIVE HOURS

A: YEAH I WOULD EVEN SAY LIKE SIX SO MAY IF WE CAN BOOK IT IF WE CAN BOOK IT FOR LIKE THREE OR FOUR

B: THREE P M

A: YEAH MAYBE FOUR IS EVEN BETTER BASICALLY IS LIKE IS POSSIBLE I THINK <LAUGH>

B: I THINK THREE P M IS THE LATEST TIME

A: OKAY

B: OF COURSE CAN DO THIS

A: YEAH WE CAN WE CAN DO THREE THEN

B: OKAY FOUR PEOPLE SENT

A: OKAY

B: NOW LET'S SEE WHAT THEY SAY

A: WE'LL IS THERE ANYTHING TO SEE IN THAT AREA ACTUALLY LIKE IN BECAUSE I I DON'T KNOW SCOTLAND YOU KNOW NORTH OF CAIRNGORMS <LAUGH>

B: WHO DOES

B: I DON'T KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE

A: I GUESS THE COASTAL AREA IS NOT IS NOT LIKE PARTICULARLY FUN BECAUSE IT'S USUALLY PLAIN RIGHT SO MAYBE NO NOTHING TO SEE THERE

B: WELL THAT DEPENDS BECAUSE YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN TO THE STENNESS FORESTS AND THOSE IN THE COAST

A: MM HMM

B: UM BUT UP THE UH WALKHIGHLANDS LET'S SEE WHAT DO THEY SAY

A: I MEAN I I GUESS WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT LIKE RIGHT NOW

B: MM HMM

A: JUST LIKE WE CAN WE CAN DO LIKE A COUPLE OF WE CAN SPEND A COUPLE MORE HOURS AROUND THAT AREA IF WE WANT TO UH BECAUSE I THINK EVEN IF WE HAVE A TOUR AT LIKE FOUR I DON'T KNOW OR THREE THE

B: I MEAN THEY THEY END AT ELEVEN <LAUGH>

A: YEAH BY FIVE WELL ACTUALLY NO IT'S GONNA BE AUGUST <LAUGH>

B: OH YEAH GOOD POINT GOOD POINT

A: SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ELEVEN BUT I THINK

B: SO TO NINE THIRTY

A: BUT STILL ENOUGH TIME PROBABLY TO HAVE A COUPLE OF HOURS EXTRA

B: YEAH

A: UH

B: OKAY UH SO I GUESS OKAY SO WE WE HAVE A RUDIMENTARY PLAN WE GO TO THIS AREA WE WANT TO CAMP AT LOCH NESS WE'LL FIND SOMETHING TO SOME LIKE HIKE TO WALK

A: YEAH

B: WHETHER IT'S MORE ON THE COAST OR MORE AROUND LOCH NESS

A: YES

B: BUT THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE FEEL LIKE

A: AND THEN FROM THERE WE SHOULD PROBABLY GET TO TO ULLAPOOL AREA NOW BECAUSE THAT'S UH WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO LOSE IN IN THE FAMILIAR FAMILIAR GROUNDS

B: OKAY SO THAT'S DAY TWO

A: SO WE'LL PROBABLY UH GO FROM YEAH I IT SEEMS LIKE A SHORT DRIVE FROM LIKE SOMETHING LIKE WHAT DURNESS OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED TO ULLAPOOL

B: PROBABALY TWO HOURS

A: YEAH EVEN LESS LIKE ONE TWENTY FOUR

B: MM YEAH

A: I MEAN WE CAN WE CAN PUT MORE BUT IT'S IT'S FINE