B: I DIDN'T BEHAVE WELL TO THEIR LITTLE ONE AND UH YEAH THINGS STARTED TO GET A BIT TENSE AND I HAD TO LEAVE THE AREA BECAUSE IT WASN'T GOING UH UH TO A GOOD AREA

A: BUT YOU LEFT YOUR BOTTLE OVER THERE

B: NO I DIDN'T LEAVE THE BOTTLE

A: <LAUGH>

B: IT'S MY BOTTLE

A: YOUR BOTTLE <LAUGH>

B: THEY WERE STEALING EVERYTHING BUT I MEAN USUALLY THEY WOULDN'T BE AGGRESSIVE BUT UH YOU DON'T WANT TO UM UPSET THEM <LAUGH>

A: OF COURSE I THINK THEY I DON'T THINK THEY WANT WATER SPECIFICALLY BUT I THINK THEY THEY WANTED THE BOTTLE THINKING UH UH OF JUICE OR SOMETHING I THINK THEY HAVE SOME EX <OVERLAP>

B: I THINK THEY WERE JUST CURIOUS

A: MM

B: I THINK THEY WERE JUST CURIOUS

A: OH OKAY JUST CURIOUS

B: FOR INSTANCE THEY STOLE SOMEBODY'S PACK OF CIGARETTES IT'S NOT LIKE THEY SMOKE YOU KNOW THEY JUST

A: <LAUGH>

B: UH UH STOLE THE THE CIGARETTES AND THEY TOOK IT UH UH ON A THE ROOF OF A KIOSK WHICH WAS NEARBY

A: OKAY

B: PLAYED WITH IT FOR A WHILE AND THEN ABANDONED IT THERE WHERE OF COURSE NOBODY COULD REACH IT ANYMORE

A: I THINK THEY'RE TOO SMART FOR THAT I THINK THEY HAVE A DEAL WITH THAT UM WITH THE SELLER <LAUGH> FROM UNDER THE

B: YEAH

A: THE KIOSK AND UH IF THEY BRING CIGARETTES OR SOMETHING THE S SELLER WOULD GIVE THEM FOOD OR BANANAS OR SOMETHING

B: MONKEY BUSINESS

A: MONKEY BUSINESS YEAH

B: BUT YOU KNOW IN SPITE OF THE THE GOOD ADVICE OF NOT CARRYING FOOD YOU COULD FIND A LOT OF MONKEY FOOD ACTUALLY AT THE BASES OF THIS HILL

A: OKAY WHAT'S THE W WHAT'S THERE <OVERLAP>

B: YEAH TALKING ABOUT UM I THINK IT WAS SOME KIND OF NUTS

A: NUTS OKAY

B: I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY YEAH

A: MM HMM <LAUGH> MONKEY FOOD LIKE

B: BIG A VERY BIG BAG ACTUALLY LIKE HALF A KILO OR A KILO

A: OKAY BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY <LAUGH>

B: YEAH EXACTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE MANY

A: LIKE HAVING A BIG DOG <LAUGH>

B: YEAH

A: UH I REMEMBER JUST NOW THAT IN VENICE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING WHEN I

B: OH YOU WERE IN VENICE WOW

A: YEAH UH THEY THERE WERE SOME UH POSTS SOME THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEED THE PIGEONS

B: <LAUGH> YOU SHOULDN'T <LAUGH>

A: YEAH

B: THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM

A: <LAUGH> YEAH BEC NAH BECAUSE THEY UM DAMAGE THE SCULPTURES AND THE BUILDINGS AND SO ON

B: AH I SEE

B: OR THE UM BUT THEY THEY WERE EVERYWHERE PEOPLE SELL PIGEON FOOD YOU KNOW

B: YEAH

A: AND YOU PUT IT INTO YOUR ARM THE FOOD AND THE PIGEONS WOULD COME INTO YOUR HAND YOU KNOW AND TAKE A PHOTO <LAUGH> AND HAVE A MEMORY FROM VENICE

B: OH YEAH SO SO HOW WAS UH VENICE LIKE DID YOU LIKE IT

A: I WAS UH SEASICK BECAUSE WE HAD

B: IN VENICE

A: YEAH WE TOOK A BOAT

B: THAT'S AN ACHIEVEMENT

A: <LAUGH> WE TOOK A BOAT

B: YEAH

A: TO REACH VENICE AND I

A: RIGHT I <DTMF> OF IT YOU CAME BY SEA

A: YEAH YEAH YEAH WE CAME BY SEA I DON'T KNOW I DON'T REMEMBER I WAS

B: MM HMM

A: A TEENAGER UH MANY I DON'T REMEMBER MANY DETAILS BUT I'M SURE THAT WE TOOK A BOAT AND UM UH I WAS ALREADY SICK WHEN WE LANDED <LAUGH> AND UM THE THE THE LITTLE UM STREETS AND THE CANALS ARE SO VERY CHARMING AND UH

B: MM HMM

A: YOU KNOW UH THE MUSEUMS AND UH THE CATHEDRAL THAT IS BIG

B: MM HMM

A: ACTUALLY THERE WAS SEAWATER IN THE CATHEDRAL <LAUGH>

B: YEAH

A: YOU KNOW AND IT WAS UH IT SMELLED NOT SO

B: BUT IS IT REALLY SEAWATER IN THE CHANNELS IN UH IN VENICE

A: YEAH

B: I MEAN IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SWEET WATER IT'S THE THE SAME AS

A: NO IT'S SALTY

B: UH HUH

A: IT'S SALTY BECAUSE UH THERE WAS THAT SMELL THAT SPECIFIC SMELL YOU KNOW

B: OH I SEE

A: AND IN THE CHURCH THE FLOOR WAS UH MADE OF STONES YOU KNOW

B: MM HMM

A: AND THE COMBINATION BETWEEN THE SMELL OF THE STONE AND WITH UH THE SALT OF THE WATER THAT WAS SO OLD <LAUGH>

B: MM HMM

A: BOTH OF THEM WERE SO OLD IT WAS AND I HAD THAT SICKNESS IT WAS

B: UH

A: <DTMF> <LAUGH>

B: YEAH

A: UM BUT I WHAT DO I REMEMBER I REMEMBER THE STATUES THE PIGEONS THE CAFES YOU KNOW

B: MM HMM

A: AREAS UM AND BEING SICK

B: BY THE WAY UH YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT OUR NEXT UH HOLIDAY MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE A CRUISE BECAUSE UH

A: CRUISE

B: MANY MANY CRUISE IN THE MEDITERRANEAN ACTUALLY ALSO TOUCH ON VENICE

A: MM HMM

B: AND IT'S A GOOD WAY TO TO SEE FOUR OR FIVE DESTINATIONS IN ONE GO

A: MM HMM MM HMM THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BUT UH DO YOU THINK LIKE UH GOING ON THAT HUGE SHIP THAT WE SAW IN UH SWEDEN

B: YEAH YEAH SOMETHING LIKE

A: ONE OF THOSE

B: I MEAN ALL OF THEM ARE HUGE BECAUSE THAT'S THE MORE EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO IT UM IT'S POSSIBLE TO ALSO TAKE A SMALLER SHIP BUT IF YOU WANT YOU KNOW IT DEPENDS ON ON YOUR PRIORITY IF YOU WANT TO ENJOY THE SAILING

A: MM HMM

B: YOU NEVER HAVE ANY REASON TO TAKE A BIG SHIP BUT IF YOU WANT TO ENJOY THE LAND DESTINATIONS THEN THAT SHIP IS VERY GOOD AT UH TAKING YOU FAST AND IN COMFORT TO THOSE DESTINATION

A: MM HMM YEAH WHEN I SEE THOSE SHIPS I THINK OF UH I DON'T KNOW UH LIKE AGATHA CHRISTIE OR SOMETHING <LAUGH> I HAVE MY OWN UH

B: DO YOU THINK SO WITH THE BIG CRUISE SHIPS

A: YES SOMEHOW I DON'T KNOW WHY IT PLAYS UH IN MY MIND UH THE ACTION FROM THE BOOK UH IN ONE OF THOSE BIG SHIPS UH I I KNOW THAT IN THOSE DAYS THEY WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE

B: YEAH

A: THEY LOOK NOW IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY ARE SO FIT YOU KNOW THE THE SHAPE OF THE

B: YEAH

A: SHIP THEY'RE TOO MODERN AND FIT <LAUGH>

B: MM HMM

A: I IMAGINE THEM TO BE MORE MORE MORE HEAVY AND <OVERLAP>

B: SCARY YEAH

A: YEAH AND I I WAS I MEANT UH IN THOSE DAYS

B: UH HUH

A: UM BUT UH I DON'T KNOW I THINK OF UH UM BALLROOMS YOU KNOW CHANDELIERS AND UH UH MEN IN TUXEDO IN THE EVENING

B: YEAH OF COURSE ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW I I'VE NEVER BEEN ON ON THESE MODERN CRUISE SHIPS BUT I THINK THEY'RE MORE LIKE FLOATING MALLS

A: <LAUGH> MALLS AH NO

B: YEAH I MEAN IT'S IT'S JUST LIKE A A BIG SHOPPING AND UH UH UH FOOD COURTS AND UH OF COURSE YOU ALSO HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT AREA WITH UH SWIMMING POOLS AND WHATEVER SO IT'S A A MIX OF UH SHOPPING MALLS AND FOOD COURTS AND UM UM UH ENTERTAINMENT UH BUT UM YEAH I DON'T THINK THEY RESEMBLE A LOT TO YOU KNOW TITANIC LET'S SAY OR TO DEATH ON THE NILE

A: YOU MAKE IT SOUNDS SO

B: ROMANTIC

A: SO UNROMANTIC

B: YEAH

A: YEAH LIKE A MALL LIKE A FLOATING MALL YEAH WHOO <NO-SPEECH>

B: I THINK THE PURPOSE OF THOSE SHIPS IS TO MAKE YOU FEEL AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE UH LIKE BEING ON A SHIP ACTUALLY

A: MM YEAH COMPARING TO I DON'T KNOW THE SHIPS WITH THOSE BIG HOW DO YOU CALL THEM

B: <DTMF> UH NO UH CHIMNEYS

A: NO NO NO

A: OR WHAT DO YOU MEAN

A: MM I DON'T KNOW <LAUGH> UH OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME SO DIFFERENT FROM OLD SHIPS HISTORICAL ONES BUT UM I DON'T THINK LIKE THEY ARE LIKE FLOATING MALLS AND HOTELS OR <LAUGH>

B: WELL FIRST OF ALL THEY ARE HUGE I MEAN UH THEY ARE BIGGER THAN ANY BUILDING ON LAND UH YOU SHOULD IMAGINE THERE ARE BETWEEN THREE AND FIVE THOUSAND PEOPLE ON ONE OF THOSE SHIPS SO IT'S UH BASICALLY A LITTLE CITY IT'S A TOWN

A: MM HMM NICE

B: AND I IT'S I IT USUALLY HAS TEN FOURTEEN UH DECKS

A: OKAY WOW

A: JUST LIKE THE FLOORS OF A BUILDING YEAH AND UH THEN YOU MOST OF THE TIME YOU I MEAN I SAID I HAVEN'T BEEN ON A CRUISE CRUISE SHIP I HAVE BEEN BUT ONLY UH TO CROSS UH AN AREA NOT TO UH SPEND MORE NIGHTS ON THAT SHIP SO I KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BUT I HAVEN'T SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE

A: MM HMM

B: AND UH ALL THE SPACES ARE ARE DONE EXACTLY LIKE ON LAND IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SIGNATURE OF A A SHIP'S SPACES YOU KNOW WHICH WOULD BE MORE CRAMPED OR UM YOU KNOW FEELING LIKE YOU ARE ON A SHIP UH AS YOU WOULD ON A SMALL BOAT OR ON A TALL SHIP EVERYTHING IS DONE IN ORDER FOR YOU AS A AS A PASSENGER TO FEEL EXACTLY LIKE ON LAND LIKE FOR INSTANCE THE FOOD COURT WHICH WAS THE WHOLE BRIDGE AND IT WAS HUGE IT WAS I THINK TWO HUNDRED METERS LONG YOU BARELY COULD SEE UH THE END OF IT WHEN YOU ENTERED THE FOOD COURT

A: MY GOD

B: IT WAS EXACTLY LIKE THE OLD TOWN OF A CITY WHERE YOU HAD THE MAIN ALLEY AND ON THE SIDES THERE WERE ALL SORTS OF

A: RESTAURANTS

B: CAFES AND RESTAURANTS

A: YEAH MM MM YOU KILLED THE MAGIC <LAUGH>

B: WHAT I MEAN IS THEY HAVE THEIR USE BUT UM IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WOULD IMAGINE UH IF

A: MM HMM