B: AND MONTH BY MONTH

A: YEAH I'M DOING I'M STUDYING A MASTER'S AND WE HAVE A TEACHING ASSISTANT THAT UM IS UH AN ITALIAN GUY UM THAT JUST HAD A NEWBORN CHILD AND THE OTHER DAY WE WENT TO THE PUB AND HE WAS TELLING US I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THINGS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT BABIES LIKE FOR EXAMPLE UM YOU NEED TO PRESS THEM SO THEY WILL SHIT <LAUGH>

B: OH REALLY OH NO <LAUGH>

A: THEY CANNOT SHIT BY THEMSELVES

B: OH NO REALLY OKAY

A: YEAH IT'S A ONE ONE MONTH UM BABY NEWBORN HE HAS BUT HE WAS SO AMAZED ALSO AT THE WHOLE PROCESS

B: SO SO IS THAT TRUE IS LIKE A IT'S LIKE A DOLL OR SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO PRESS

A: YEAH IT'S A DOLL COMPLETELY COMPLETELY YEAH I THINK IT'S IT'S SIMILAR HE WAS VERY SWEET HE WAS TELLING US LIKE THE WHOLE PROCESS OF UM HIS PARTNER GIVING BIRTH AND I DIDN'T KNOW HE'S REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT IT'S REALLY SWEET TO SEE BUT THERE WAS I ALWAYS WONDERED BECAUSE HE STAYS IN THE PUB UNTIL VERY LATE WITH US <LAUGH>

B: <LAUGH> AND THEN WHO IS PRESSING THE KID TO POOP YOU KNOW I GUESS

A: YEAH NO BUT I THINK THEY ORGANIZE THEMSELVES

B: WHO IS THE THE THE PRESSING THE POOPING PRESSING

A: THE YEAH BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE WELL ORGANIZED THOUGH BECAUSE I THINK SHE WORKS DURING THE DAY AND SHE'S WITH AND HIS WITH THE BABY DURING THE DAY

B: OKAY

A: YEAH

B: YEAH THAT THAT'S SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING FOR ME HOW LIKE NOW I HAVE LIKE COUPLE OF FRIENDS THAT HAVE BABIES AND IT'S INTERESTING HOW THEY CONVERT TO SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND YEAH I MEAN AT THE END IT SEEMS THAT EVERYTHING WORKED OUT BUT EVERYONE HAVE THEIR OWN LIKE STRATEGIES OF YEAH FOR INSTANCE I REMEMBER THAT <DTMF> USED TO WAKE UP AT THREE A M AND HE'S WITH THE BABY UNTIL SEVEN OR EIGHT A M WHILE THE OTHER PERSON IS SLEEPING UH MY BROTHER AND MY UH SISTER IN LAW THEY ARE CRAZY AND THERE WAS NO CONTROL AT ALL BUT IT WORKED OUT FOR THEM UM BUT I DON'T KNOW IT'S LIKE THIS THING THAT THERE IS NO RULES ABOUT HOW TO DO AND EVERYONE CONVERTS TO THEIR OWN THING I THINK YEAH

A: YES YES YES BUT TH THOSE LIKE THE THING THAT UM HE THINKS THAT IS THE HARDEST IS UM THAT HE'S NOT GETTING MUCH SLEEP THAT HE'S REALLY SLEEP DEPRIVED BUT HE SAYS THAT YOU KIND OF GET USED TO IT LIKE HE'S LIKE NOW I THINK IF I HAVE A NIGHT THAT I DON'T SLEEP WELL MY WHOLE DAY IS RUINED BUT IF THEN YOU HAVE A CHILD THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF NIGHTS THAT YOU DON'T SLEEP WELL YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT

B: YEAH YEAH WE USED TO BE LIKE THAT ACTUALLY WHEN I WAS IN THE US I USED TO SLEEP LIKE SUPER <DTMF> EVERY DAY AND SUDDENLY I <DTMF> UNABLE TO SLEEP FOR EIGHT HOURS AND I WAS LIKE OH FUCK THAT'S THAT'S COMPLETELY AMAZING YOU KNOW LIKE IT COULD BE YEAH IT WAS LIKE THAT THE YOUR NORMAL LIFE IS IT BECOMES HORRIBLE AND THEN SUDDENLY UM WHEN YOU HAVE A GOOD NIGHT OF SLEEP THEN YOUR DAY IS AMAZING SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT

A: YEAH

B: INTERESTING

A: YEAH UM I HAVE MY FATHER THAT IS UM I TOLD HIM THAT I WOULD BE IN THIS CONVERSATION BUT HE KEEPS TEXTING ME NOW <LAUGH> ASKING THINGS

B: OKAY OKAY OKAY THAT'S THAT'S FINE THAT'S FINE

A: YEAH <OVERLAP>

B: UM WE CAN LOOK <OVERLAP> I I WAS I I WAS THINKING THAT THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WE ARE PARTNERS OR ASSOCIATES

A: YEAH

B: BUT THERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I <LAUGH> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU AND UH LIKE LIKE WE PROPOSE SOME SOME CONVERSATION TOPICS TO HAVE

A: YES

B: OKAY AND THE FIRST ONE OF THEM UH FUNNY ENOUGH IT'S WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE HOBBIES <LAUGH>

A: WHAT'S MY FAVORITE

B: HOBBIES

A: HOBBIES <LAUGH> UM WELL

B: BECAUSE YOU KNOW LIKE WE WERE LIKE LIKE WE WERE LOOKING FOR TOPICS OF CONVERSATION AND I THINK THAT AT THAT TIME WE WERE HAVING OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT HOBBIES AND STUFF I THOUGHT WHAT PEOPLE HAVE IN IN THE UK AND I SAID HOBBIES THEN <OVERLAP>

A: THAT'S TRUE THAT'S TRUE WELL I THINK THIS IS UM A TRAP QUESTION <LAUGH> BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IN HOBBIES UM I THINK I THINK HOBBIES ARE ALSO UM UM LIKE THEY CHANGED THROUGHOUT THE ORIGIN THE COUNTRY ORIGIN I THINK SOME COUNTRIES WE DON'T TEND TO HAVE A LOT OF HOBBIES AT AT LEAST I FEEL LIKE IN MY SURROUNDING FRIENDS UM IN BARCELONA GENERALLY PEOPLE GO TO THE BAR THAT'S A HOBBY <LAUGH>

B: OKAY OKAY OKAY

A: BUT IF I EVER HAD ONE HOBBY I DON'T KNOW I'M TRYING TO THINK IF I EVER

B: IF JUST TO CHOOSE ONE LIKE LIKE SOMETHING THAT WAS CLOSE TO BE A HOBBY BUT IT WAS IT WASN'T

A: HMM LIKE MAYBE CLIMBING AT SOME POINT

B: CLIMBING HUH OH WOW

A: YES

B: THAT'S INTERESTING

A: YES

B: THAT'S INTERESTING

A: AT SOME POINT YES I WOULD GO TO THERE'S A PLACE IN BERCELONA CALLED LA FOIXARDA THAT IS OPEN IF I WANT TO GO CLIMB

B: THE OPEN ONE OR THE

A: THE OPEN ONE

B: I I KNOW LA FOIXARDA

A: YEAH

B: THE OPEN ONE OKAY

A: AND THEN I WOULD GO TO THIS UM BOULDER CENTER

B: SO THE TUNNELS RIGHT

A: WHAT

B: YOU USED TO GO TO THE TUNNEL

A: YEAH

B: OKAY

A: AND THERE WAS THESE BOULDERS CENTER IN <DTMF> UM CALLED <DTMF> TEN FINGERS

B: <DTMF> YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH I WAS THERE DURING THE OPENING ACTUALLY

A: REALLY

B: YEAH YEAH THE FIRST DAY WHERE THEY OPENED

A: OH WOW

B: YES

A: AND THEN SOMETIMES I WOULD GO ON THE WEEKEND TO CLIMB BUT THAT WAS THE CLOSEST TO A HOBBY I THINK I'VE EVER BEEN

B: OKAY OKAY BUT THAT WAS VERY NICE ACTUALLY IT'S A IT'S A VERY NICE HOBBY I USED TO CLIMB A LOT AS WELL UM I WASN'T CONSIDER CONSIDERING IT A HOBBY IT WAS MORE LIKE OH WOW THIS WILL SOUND SUPER COOL A WAY OF LIFE <LAUGH> NO NO NO NO

A: NO NO I MEAN IT IS IT IS YEAH CAN A HOBBY BECOME A WAY OF LIFE

B: YEAH I THINK SO SO SO A LITTLE BIT YEAH SO SO I HAD TO STOP TO STOP CLIMBING I WAS CLIMBING VERY STRONGLY ACTUALLY IN EDINBURGH BEFORE MEETING YOU AGAIN I THINK UM BUT VERY VERY STRONGLY LIKE I USED TO GO THERE FOUR TIMES A WEEK AND TRAINING AND STUFF

A: OH WOW

B: YEAH YEAH YEAH BUT SUDDENLY I I I AM LIKE I THINK I I READ SOMEWHERE THAT CLIMBING IS THE THE WORST SPORT THAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR BODY OR SOMETHING LIKE

A: OH REALLY

B: IT'S SUPER BAD YEAH YEAH YEAH FOR ALL JOINTS AND STUFF IT'S EXTREMELY BAD UM YOU KNOW THIS AND SKATEBOARDING ACTUALLY UM

A: <DTMF> SKATEBOARDING

B: NO BUT BUT MY BEST FRIEND IS USED TO BE OBSESSED WITH SKATEBOARDING AND I USED TO GO WITH HIM AT MACBA

A: YES

B: BARCELONA UM IT'S THIS UM LIKE BARCELONA IS ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS UM STREET SKATE CITIES IN THE WORLD

A: YEAH

B: UM SO ALL THE PRO SKATERS WERE COMING TO MACBA AND I USED TO STUDY IN THE UNIVERSITY NEXT TO THAT PLACE AND MAX USED TO BE THERE LIKE DOING SKATEBOARDING I USED TO WATCH HIM

A: WHERE DID YOU STUDY

B: UM WELL I THERE WAS A LIBRARY THERE UM

A: OH OKAY

B: SO I USED TO GO THERE UM ALL THE AFTERNOONS AND WHEN I FINISH I I USED TO GO WITH MAX AND MAX WAS DOING

A: NICE

B: BUT IT IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU WANNA SEE HIM LIKE DOING SOME TRICKS AND I THOUGHT WOW THAT'S VERY COOL AND EVERYONE WAS LIKE NO NO THAT'S NORMAL AND WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING THAT FOR ME WAS NOT IMPRESSIVE EVERYONE WAS LIKE WHAAT EVERONE APPLAUDING AND STUFF YOU KNOW

A: BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THE CODES OF SKATING

B: I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CODES OF SKATING BUT IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY DO AND UM IT'S SOMETHING VERY PRIVATE OR SOMETHING AND I REMEMBER THERE WAS A VERY NICE GUY THAT I GOT VERY NOT IN LOVE BUT IT WAS LIKE A VERY SMALL CHILD OF LIKE MAYBE TEN YEARS OLD OR SOMETHING

A: MM HMM

B: CALLED <DTMF> HOUSTON HE WAS FROM THE US UH UH I THINK I THINK HE'S JAMAICAN OR SOMETHING WITH DREADLOCK LIKE WITH TWELVE YEARS OLD SO SO A SMALL CHILD LIKE

A: YEAH YEAH LIKE A SMALL ADULT IN A WAY

B: EH

A: LIKE A SMALL ADULT IN THE BODY OF A CHILD