A: YEAH UM I JUST LOVE AS WELL IN MY MIND HOW ALL LIKE THESE THEORIES ARE TOLD ARE ALL LIKE LIKE THEY'VE SEEMLY NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER YET BY THE END OF THE GAME EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS LIKE INTERTWINED LIKE THEY'RE ALL

B: YEAH

A: IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU USELESS INFORMATION EVERYTHING LIKE THEY TALK ABOUT

B: LIKE YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION

A: YEAH

B: EVERY SINGLE TIME

A: LIKE EVERYTHING IS RELEVANT SOMEHOW BY THE END OF THE GAME

B: MM HMM

A: AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT FOR THAT UM LIKE EVEN YOU KNOW ICE NINE AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE COFFIN OF THE TITANIC OF LIKE THE ANCIENT EGYPTIAN GODDESS LIKE A GODDESS BUT YOU KNOW A RULER WHATEVER UM LIKE HER NICKNAME WAS ALICE OR WHICH IS ALL ICE BECAUSE THERE WAS A SERIES THAT SHE WAS LIKE MADE OF ICE NINE THAT WAS HOW HER BODY WAS KEPT PRESERVED SO WELL BECAUSE THERE WASN'T LIKE A SINGLE SIGN OF ANY LIKE DEGRADATION ON HER BODY YOU KNOW IT WASN'T ROTTING AT ALL IT WAS STILL IN PERFECT CONDITION AFTER THOUSANDS OF YEARS UM AND THEN HER LIKE YOU SEE LIKE ALICE AT THE END OF THE GAME JUST LIKE CHILLING THERE <LAUGH>

B: IT ACTUALLY REMI REMINDED ME OF UM THIS VIDEO I WAS WATCHING ABOUT IT WAS LIKE THIS GUY WHO DIED LIKE OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING AND THEN LIKE THEY FOUND THAT LIKE GRAVE ROBBERS DUG UP HIS BODY AND THEY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS SOMEBODY WHO HAD JUST DIED BECAUSE IT WAS PRESERVED SO WELL AND IT LIKE FREAKS ME OUT THAT LIKE WELL PEOPLE LIKE SAY STUFF LIKE LIKE OH WELL HER BODY WAS LIKE PRESERVED 'CAUSE OF LIKE THE ICE THING BUT LIKE STUFF LIKE THAT LIKE DO YOU REALLY KNOW HOW LIKE WELL LIKE EGYPTIAN BODIES MAYBE SOME OF 'EM WERE LIKE

A: YEAH

B: PRESERVED LIKE SUPER WELL THAT LIKE AFTER ALL THIS TIME LIKE IT COULD STILL LOOK LIKE BUT THAT WAS LIKE THEY ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS PERSON WHO DIED AND THAT THE BO BODY WAS PRESERVED SO WELL WITHIN LIKE THE LAST LIKE FEW YEARS

A: YEAH

B: AND LIKE THEN LIKE STUFF IS ALREADY LIKE ALL THIS OTHER STUFF'S ALREADY LIKE OH WELL THAT'S TOO BOMBED WELL NOW THERE'S LIKE NEW INFORMATION COMING OUT LIKE WHO KNOWS <LAUGH> AND MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON <LAUGH>

A: YEAH

B: AND IT WASN'T LIKE SOME LIKE BIG LIKE CONSPIRACY THEORY ABOUT LIKE THIS GUY BEING PRESERVED IT WAS LIKE LITERALLY THIS SCIENCE LIKE PRESERVATION METHOD THAT THEY USED BACK THEN THAT THEY ONLY TESTED OUT A COUPLE TIMES AND THEN NOW THEY'RE LIKE WAIT THIS ACTUALLY WORKED EVEN THOUGH BARELY ANYONE HAD DONE IT

A: UM OH MY ZOOM IS ACTUALLY POPPING UP THAT THERE'S A FORTY MINUTE TIME LIMIT ON MY MEETINGS I WAS NOT AWARE OF APPARENTLY THE MEETING WILL END IN TEN MINUTES

B: OKAY <LAUGH>

A: THAT'S FUN <LAUGH>

B: IT'S OKAY WE'LL JUST FINISH IT OUT

A: YEAH I GUESS SO MIGHT AS WELL WE'VE COME THIS FAR

B: MM HMM

A: UM YEAH AS FAR AS AS THE YOU KNOW LIKE PRESERVATION OF BODIES GOES UM I DON'T KNOW I MEAN I'VE HEARD OF BUG BODIES IN WHICH IS KIND OF COMMON IN IRELAND WHERE YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO DIE LIKE ON BUGS AND THEN YOU KNOW THEIR BODY JUST KIND OF GETS LIKE PRESERVED BY THE BUG ITSELF SO LIKE WE FOUND BODIES LIKE HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY LIKE REALLY WELL INTACT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN UNDERNEATH THE BUG THAT WHOLE TIME AND JUST THAT HAS PRESERVED THEIR BODY REALLY WELL SO

B: YEAH

A: I DON'T KNOW <LAUGH>

B: MM HMM

A: BODIES CAN BE PRESERVED IN WEIRD WAYS I GUESS IT'S NOT THE DIRECTION I THOUGHT THE CONVERSATION WAS GOING BUT YEAH

B: IT'S INTERESTING <LAUGH>

A: IT IS UM THAT'S WHY I LIKE NINE NINE NINE SO MUCH <LAUGH> THIS IS ALL THE STUFF THAT BRINGS UP LIKE IT

B: IT MAKES YOU THINK

A: YEAH IT MAKES YOU LOOK INTO MORE THINGS LIKE WELL HAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT EVER HAPPENED AND WHEN YOU LOOK UP IT WAS LIKE WHOA STUFF LIKE THAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE SO ALSO LIKE THE ALL THE THEORIES ARE VERY MUCH BASED IN REALITY UM AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT AS WELL JUST THAT IT'S NOT LIKE ENTIRELY FICTION YOU KNOW THERE'S A QUOTE FROM SOMEONE THAT SAYS LIKE THE BEST FICTION IS I DON'T REMEMBER HIS QUOTE ESSENTIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE FICTION MIXED WITH REALITY BECAUSE IT MAKES IT SO MUCH MORE BELIEVABLE AND JUST

B: YEAH BETTER

A: MAKES IT SO MUCH BETTER YOU KNOW WHICH IS WHY LIKE ZERO ESCAPE AS A WHOLE CAUSE UM I MEAN THE NEXT GAME VIRTUE'S LAST REWARD DOES A LOT OF SAME THING IT'S DEFINITELY A LOT MORE LIKE SCI FI YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN LIKE

B: MM HMM

A: A MOON BASE OR SOMETHING OR LIKE YOU'RE ON MARS EVEN I THINK I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ACTUALLY

B: I THINK IT'S THE MOON

A: YEAH I THINK ON THE MOON

B: UH YEAH

A: AND IT'S LIKE A BUNCH OF YEARS IN THE FUTURE AND YOU'VE BEEN GETTING SOME LIKE DISEASE THAT LIKE SPEEDS UP YOUR BRAIN SO THEY DON'T NOTICE THEY'RE ON THE MOON LIKE <LAUGH> AND SO

B: YEAH IT WAS FUNNY 'CAUSE I WAS PLAYING THAT LIKE RIGHT AROUND WHEN COVID HIT

A: WOW YEAH

B: AND I WAS LIKE A DISEASE THAT'S LIKE SPREADING ACROSS THE WORLD WHAT

A: YEAH

B: RIGHT NOW IS THIS HAPPENING <LAUGH> SO

A: YEAH WE MIGHT HAVE A THIRD GAME THEY DEFINITELY DROPPED THE BALL A BIT WHEN HE FIND THE UH TELEPORTER AND IT'S EXPLAINED WITH OH ALIENS CAME TO EARTH AND LETS IT THERE THAT'S IT ALIENS HAVE NEVER BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE OTHER TWO GAMES THEY HADN'T EVEN BEEN BROUGHT UP ON THE THIRD GAME <LAUGH> AND THEY'RE NEVER BROUGHT UP AGAIN JUST ALIENS WHY NOT

B: YEAH <LAUGH>

A: YEAH DEFINITELY NINE NINE NINE IS MY FAVORITE THEM JUST 'CAUSE IT STAYS THE MOST LIKE REALISTIC AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER TWO

B: MM HMM

A: YEAH YEAH I THINK YOU'VE ASKED ME ABOUT OTHER GAME SERIES AS WELL UM I SAID I HAD OTHER SERIES TO TALK ABOUT I SPENT ALL IN ONE ZERO'S GAME

B: WELL WHAT ARE YOU GONNA LIKE I KNOW THERE'S GAMES YOU'RE WAITING FOR SO WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR

A: UM WELL I WANT YOU TO KNOW I AM WAITING FOR IS UH THE SEQUEL TO SOMNIUM FILES

B: YEAH

A: NIRVANA INITIATIVE BECAUSE IT CAME OUT IN AMERICA LIKE LAST FRIDAY THAT'S HAPPENING OUT HERE TILL NEXT FRIDAY

B: <LAUGH> YEAH

A: I THINK THAT THAT IS IT'S VERY ANNOYING

B: NICE WORKERS

A: YEAH I'M VERY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT LIKE I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR IT EVER SINCE I BEAT THE FIRST GAME WHICH WAS LIKE A WEEK AFTER IT CAME OUT <LAUGH>

B: IT'S SO FUNNY THAT WE'RE LIKE THEY SHOULD MAKE A SECOND ONE AND THIS SHOULD BE THE FLY AND THEN THAT'S THE FLY <LAUGH>

A: YES

B: OKAY

A: UM YEAH LIKE EVER SINCE I FINISHED THE FIRST GAME I THINK LIKE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID WAS TWEETING THE CREATOR OF THE GAME EXCUSE ME FIRST OF ALL HOW GREAT HIS GAME WAS AND SECOND OF ALL IF HE DOESN'T MAKE A SEQUEL I'LL HATE HIM FOREVER <LAUGH> BUT HE MADE A SEQUEL AND I AWARD MYSELF FROM HIM

B: HONESTLY IT'S DOING SO WELL I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED THEY MAKE ANOTHER ONE IF THEY CAN

A: THAT'S TRUE

B: I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW THE ENDING HOW LIKE REALISTIC THAT IS

A: YEAH

B: BUT I THINK HE COULD PROBABLY TURN OUT ANOTHER ONE HONESTLY

A: YEAH I THINK SO UM AND I DUNNO IF YOU LIKE DOING TRILOGIES ZERO ESCAPE IS A TRILOGY UM THE LIKE REMEMBER LAST <DTMF>

B: YEAH BUT IT WAS LIKE BARELY A TRILOGY SINCE IT HAD TO BE LIKE KICK STARTED OR WHATEVER

A: IT WAS VERY NEARLY NOT A TRILOGY YEAH BECAUSE

B: <LAUGH> YEAH

A: UH <DTMF> I MEAN LIKE UH YOU CAN CALL IT LIKE IN LIKE REVIEW WISE IT DID REALLY REALLY WELL CRITICALLY IT DID REALLY WELL IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY BUT COMMERCIALLY IT DIDN'T DO GREAT SO LIKE YOU KNOW THE PUBLISHERS WERE JUST LIKE WE'RE NOT LETTING YOU MAKE ANOTHER ONE GO AWAY AND THEN THE FANS HAD TO LIKE BEG THEM TO LET HIM AND MAKE ANOTHER ONE AND THEY WERE LIKE FINE YOU CAN MAKE ANOTHER ONE BUT HERE'S LIKE A REALLY SMALL BUDGET

A: MM HMM

B: OF COURSE EVERYONE WAS SAD

A: YEAH

B: BECAUSE YEAH THE THIRD GAME DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME NOR BUDGET

A: SEEMS LIKE SO FAR THIS ONE IS THE THIS GAME IS THAT'S COMING ON FOR YOU IS IT'S DOING PRETTY WELL ACCORDING TO WHAT I'VE SEEN

B: YEAH

A: SO I HOPE THAT IT ALSO MAKE US LIKE HE CAN BE MAKING MORE GAMES THAT ARE LIKE IN THE GENRE

B: YEAH

B: AND THAT THEY LIKE THAT HE HAS THE BUDGET TO LIKE HE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE IT HOW HE WANTS TO