A: YEAH BUT MAYBE YOU KNOW I CONSIDERING WHAT THIS WORKER SAID TO ME I JUST UH FIRST OF ALL UH THERE ARE TWO THINGS FIRST OF ALL I RECALL THAT A SITUATION LIKE THIS HAPPENED VERY SIMILAR WHEN I WENT TO THE GIRLS YOU REMEMBER AND I WENT THERE VERY UPSET AT THE TIME I WAS VERY UPSET IT WAS THE SAME SITUATION I WAS VERY TROUBLED ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THEY THEY DID OKAY AND I WENT THERE AND I BURST LIKE OUT EVERYTHING THAT I THOUGHT SO THAT THEY REACTED AS A RESENT WITH RESENTMENT AND THIS DAMAGE COULD NOT BE UH LIKE LIKE UH RECOVERED IN ANY WAY SO THERE WAS A LACK OF TRUST ALL OF A SUDDEN AND THEY DIDN'T YOU KNOW AND THEY WERE SO SHOCKED BECAUSE I GA I WENT THERE AND I WAS OUT OF MY UH MY YOU KNOW MY HORSES THIS TIME HAPPENED THE SAME THING I I SENT THAT PICTURE BECAUSE I WAS UPSET AND I WANT THEM TO ADMIT THAT YOU KNOW TO VALIDATE MY UPSETTING BUT THEIR RE THEIR REACTION OKAY IN THAT SENSE WITH THE GIRLS I HONESTLY OKAY I ADMIT AGAIN THE MISTAKE OF ACTING AS YOU SAY NOT IN A RATIONAL WAY OR IN A CALM WAY UPON EMOTIONS SUDDEN EMOTIONS BUT I THINK I WAS RIGHT ON WHAT I WAS SAYING I COULD HAVE SAID THE SAME THING IN A MUCH CALMER WAY SAME THING WITH THEM I COULD HAVE DELIVERED THE MESSAGE IN IN A BETTER AND MORE DIPLOMATIC WAY OKAY IN BOTH IN DO IN BOTH CASES I CERTAINLY MADE A MISTAKE IN MANAGEMENT OKAY BUT IN THIS CASE OF THE WORKERS I ASK MYSELF CONSIDERING AFTERWARDS IF MAYBE I DON'T RECOGNIZE THAT MAYBE THEY ARE DOING AN EFFORT BEYOND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M PAYING THEM FOR I I HAVE THE DOUBT I'M NOT COMPLETELY SURE BECAUSE CONSIDER I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THREE MONTHS FOR THEM TO FINISH THIS WORK I WOULDN'T CALL IT SUCH AN EFFORT YOU KNOW BUT CERTAINLY THE BOSS THE MM VLADIMIR CERTAINLY IS HAS BEEN VERY ELASTIC WITH ME VERY FLEXIBLE VERY UNDERSTANDING ET CETERA I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW ANYWAY NOTHING JUSTIFIES AN HUMILIATION LIKE THE ONE OF RECEIVING A VIDEO LIKE THAT SAYING THAT YOUR JOB IS BAD NO SO IT WAS AN ABUSE FROM MY PART IN

B: HE KNOWS

A: I DON'T

B: DEEP INSIDE DEEP INSIDE HE KNOWS THAT THE JOB IS BAD

A: UH OKAY OKAY

B: OKAY BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT IS EXPOSED

A: IT'S EXPOSED YES

B: IT'S EXPOSED AND YOU PUT IT IN THE PHRASE AS A SORT OF SOMETHING THAT IS BIG AND ALSO OTHER PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED SO NOW IT TURNS IT'S NOT ABOUT THE JOB

A: NO IT'S PERSONAL

B: IT'S ABOUT THE PRIDE

A: YEAH

B: YOU HURTED HIS PRIDE

A: YEAH

B: AND THE MOMENT YOU YOU AND THE MOMENT YOU HURTED HIS PRIDE THE MOMENT THE MOMENT YOU HURTED HIS PRIDE

A: <LAUGH> CONTINUE CONTINUE

B: NO NO IT'S NEVER ENDING THIS STORY IT'S LIKE UH INSISTING INSISTING

A: <LAUGH>

B: INSISTING AND INSISTING AND INSISTING AND INSISTING

A: INSISTING

B: WE CANNOT FIND YOU SO WE WILL TRY AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN I I WILL GET TO THIS SUBJECT LATER AFTER THIS

A: YES <LAUGH> I'M CRYING

B: BECAUSE IT'S ALSO VERY IMPO ABOUT THE OTHER SUBJECT I CAN SPEAK FOR HOURS

A: <LAUGH>

B: IF IF THEY WILL ALLOW ME

A: <LAUGH>

B: UH WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IT MOVED TO THE PRIDE THING

A: OH YES

B: AND THE MOMENT IT GETS INTO PRIDE THERE'S NO LOGIC INSIDE

A: NO

B: HE IS CLIMBING ON A TREE LIKE A CAT

A: YEAH

B: AND THEN YOU NEED TO BRING MILLIONS OF FIREMEN IN ORDER TO SEE HOW TO TAKE THIS CAT DOWN FROM THIS TREE

A: YEAH

B: AND HE DOESN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHY HE CLIMBED THE TREE

A: YEAH

B: DEEP INSIDE HE WANTS TO GET OUT OF THE TREE HE WANTS TO GET DOWN

A: AND WHY

B: HE WANTS TO GET DOWN

A: WHY SHOULD HE GO OUT OF THE TREE

B: BECAUSE THE MOMENT IT TURNED INTO PRIDE HE NEEDS TO JUSTIFY

A: OH OKAY OKAY

B: THE REASON TO GO DOWN OF THE TREE BUT HE CANNOT JUSTIFY BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT LIKE YOU THAT YOU DID SOMETHING THAT IS SO LET'S SAY EMOTIONAL ALSO HE DID SOMETHING EMOTIONAL BECAUSE IF HE WAS A PERSON THAT IS CONTROLLING HIS TEMPER OR LET'S SAY WITH <DTMF> LIKE THE LIKE THE BOSS

A: YEAH

B: SO HE WOULD LISTEN TO IT MAYBE HE WILL REACT LIKE THIS OR WILL REACT IN A DIFFERENT WAY OR CHOOSE A WAY OF CO CO CONTINUING BUT HE WOULDN'T MAKE ALL THIS DRAMA

A: BY THE WAY THE PERSON THAT WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE THAT IS ALSO FUNNY THE PERSON THAT WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FOR THE FOR THE PROBLEM GOT ONE THOUSAND TIMES MORE UPSET THAN THE PERSON THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE THE PERSON THAT LIKE BECAUSE THE BOSS LIKE THE THE THE MANAGER WAS VERY CALM YOU KNOW AND THE WORKER WAS COMPLETELY YOU DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE HERE HE HE SAID TO ME YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO DA DA DA AND CERTAINLY

B: WHO SAID WHO SAID THIS WHO SAID THIS

A: THE WORKER

B: OF THIS SITUATION

A: YES THE MANAGER

B: YES YES BUT THIS IS NOT SURPRISING BECAUSE IT ALWAYS ARRIVE EVERYBODY TELLS YOU EVENTUALLY HE TELLS YOU YOU DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE BUT I OBVIOUSLY

A: EVERYBODY YEAH <LAUGH>

B: I ALWAYS GET DON'T CLIMB ON THE TREE AGAIN YOU CAN GET IT'S NOT A TREE FOR ME IT'S A BUSH THEY'RE CLIMBING THIS BUSH YOU DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE FIRST OF ALL SUDDENLY IT'S PLURAL FIRST IT WAS ONE PERSON SUDDENLY IT'S PLURAL THE SECOND THING IS THAT DEEP INSIDE YOU'RE LAUGHING BECAUSE YOU SAY OF COURSE I KNOW WHO YOU ARE BECAUSE FIVE MINUTES I MET A PERSON EXACTLY LIKE YOU YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST ONE AND YOU'RE NOT THE LAST ONE YOU'RE NOT THAT UNIQUE WHO WE ARE WHO ARE YOU YOU'RE A PERSON THAT LIVES HERE ACTS LIKE THIS AND YOU'RE NOT DIFFERENT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE LIKE THIS THAT ACT LIKE THIS AND THIS IS WHO YOU ARE AND I MET YOU BEFORE IT'S NOT THAT SURPRISING IT'S A SORT OF A TALKING IT'S A SORT OF A TALKING THAT IS UH IS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE

A: THAT HAVE ALREADY AN ISSUE THAT HAVE ALREADY AN ISSUE

B: YEAH THEY HAVE ISSUES AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE ISSUES OF PRIDE IT'S IT'S NOT THAT THEY WANT TO PROVE THEMSELVES BECAUSE IT'S NOT A COMPETITION HERE

A: NO NO NO NO IT'S NOT A COMPETITION

B: NOT A COMPETITION HE'S NOT SHOWING OFF HE'S A

A: HE'S A PERSON AS YOU SAID OF OF HAVING TO PROVE SOMETHING BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE OKAY THE OTHER ONE THE THE MANAGER SAID TO ME AFTER FORTY YEARS OF JOB I THINK I AM ENTITLED TO CONSIDER WHAT I DO PROPERLY HE DIDN'T SAY YOU DON'T KNOW WHY I AM WHILE THE OTHER ONE HE SAID YOU DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE BECAUSE THE MANAGER IS DOING THESE KINDS OF JOBS S SO HE WAS LIKE CLIMBING ON NOT ON A BUSH HE WAS CLIMBING ON THE OTHER PERSON'S SHOULDER EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T NEED IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH FOR HIM TO SAY THIS WORK YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY YOU YOU YOU SENT THE VIDEO TO THE WRONG PERSON AND THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH BUT BECAUSE HE'S A HOT TEMPER LIKE ME HE REACTED EVEN THOUGH I PROBABLY I WOULD NEVER REACT LIKE INSULTING SOMEONE LIKE HE DID

B: YEAH BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE UH IT'S ALMOST LIKE UH LIKE UH I NEVER DID IT BUT PROBABLY I SAW IT IN MOVIES OR SOMETHING

A: YEAH <LAUGH>

B: IT WAS LIKE UH WHEN YOU DECIDE TO GO TO I DON'T KNOW WHO DOES IT A SHRINK OR A PSYCHOLOGIST

A: YEAH

B: OR AN ANALYZER ANA ANA ANALYZER

A: ANA ANALYZER UH ANALYZER <LAUGH>

B: ANALYZER SO IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW WHO WHO WE ARE FIRST OF ALL IT'S LIKE YOU'RE HAVING A SORT OF HOW DO YOU CALLED IT SCHIZOPHRENIA WHO WE ARE SO I THINK THERE ARE A FEW CHARACTERS WE DEAL WITH

A: <LAUGH>

B: THE SECOND THING IS THE SECOND THING IS OKAY LET'S SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE SO LET'S SEE IT AND TELL ME MORE ABOUT YOURSELF I WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE TILL THIS MOMENT I DIDN'T KNOW I REALLY WANT TO KNOW TELL ME ABOUT YOURSELF TELL ME EVERYTHING FROM SCRATCH LET'S START FROM SCRATCH FROM CHILDHOOD I WANT YOU TO TELL ME ALL THE STORIES OF YOUR LIFE AND AFTERWARDS I WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE IT'S A LACK OF CONF IT'S A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IT'S A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IT'S LIKE PEOPLE THAT EVERY LITTLE THING THEY GET INTO A DEFENSE MODE

A: YEAH

B: WHO WE ARE YOU ARE A PERSON THAT IS DOING YOUR JOB