B: YEAH SO UH CASABLANCA WAS GREAT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF MANY OTHER FILMS OF THE TIME MEET THE SAME STANDARD I GUESS THEM HAVING OUT OF MONEY HELPED I AM TRYING I'VE BEEN DO YOU IS THERE ANY ROMANCE FILM YOU EVER WATCHED THAT WAS SATISFYING IN SOME WAY EVEN IF THE ROMANCE WASN'T THE MAIN POINT BUT THERE WAS AN ASPECT OF ROMANCE AND IT WAS TREATED IN AN INTERESTING WAY

A: NO LIKE I DON'T I DON'T LIKE SUCH MOVIES OR SERIES IT MAKES ME CRANKY

B: THERE WAS A THERE WAS A FILM CALLED BLUE VALENTINE IT FOLLOWS A STORY OF TWO PEOPLE

A: IS IT A CLASSICAL

B: WHO LOVED EACH OTHER NO IT'S UH LIKE ALMOST LIKE AN INDIE FILM

A: BLUE

B: BLUE VALENTINE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TRAGIC LIKE THEY USED TO LOVE EACH OTHER BUT THEY DON'T LOVE EACH OTHER ANYMORE SO THE FILM KEEPS JUMPING BET IN TIME SO UH WE MIGHT BE WITH THEM AS THEY'RE MARRIED AND HAVING ISSUES IN THEIR MARRIAGE THEN THE NEXT SCENE IS THEM WHEN THEY'VE MET EACH OTHER AND FINDING LOVE SO IT IT INTERTWINES THOSE TWO PARTS OF THEIR OF OF THE OF THE STORY THE THE LAST PART WHERE THEY'RE MARRIED AND THE EARLY PARTS WHEN THEY WERE DATING AND IN LOVE

A: OH

B: SO YOU KEEP SEEING THE CONTRAST AND EVEN THE COLORS OF THE SCENE CHANGES WHEN WE GO TO THE PAST WHERE EVERYTHING WAS BEAUTIFUL IT'S MORE COLORFUL WHEN YOU COME TO WHEN THEY'RE MARRIED IT HAS A BLUE FILTER OVER IT KIND OF DEPRESSING

A: IS BLUE VALENTINE DEPRESSING ONE OF THE SADDEST AND THE BEST FILMS OF THE PAST YEAR IT TELLS THE STORY OF A COLLAPSING MARRIAGE INTER INTER WHAT INTERSPERSING I DON'T KNOW THAT WHAT'S THE PRONUNCIATION FOR THAT WORD OH OH INTERSPERSE <LAUGH> INTERSPERSING EACH WITH EPISODES FROM THE COUPLE'S PARTNERSHIP OKAY IF IT'S DEPRESSING I'M GOING TO WATCH IT <LAUGH> NO THAT'S DARK BUT HEY RYAN GOSLING <FOREIGN> SO IF RYAN IS PART OF THIS

B: YEAH MAYBE IT WAS SO DEPRESSING

A: MM HMM

B: HE WENT AND LOOKED FOR LALALAND TO TRY AND YOU KNOW MAKE EVERYTHING A CHEERFUL NOTE

A: I HAVEN'T WATCHED LALALAND IT IT WAS SO HYPED AND UGH I DON'T LIKE WATCHING MOVIES THAT ARE HYPED

B: WHY BECAUSE IT MIGHT SKEW YOUR IMP YOUR PERCEPTION TOWARDS THE THE THE MAINSTREAM OPINION OR IS IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT LIKE IT TAKES IT IT TAKES SOMETHING AWAY FROM YOU WHEN SOMETHING IS HYPED LIKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE YOU'RE PART OF THE COLLECTIVE

A: EXACTLY EXACTLY <LAUGH>

B: THAT YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR OWN OPINION

A: YEAH I'LL FEEL LIKE I'M PART OF THE COLLECTIVE AND NO I DON'T WANNA FEEL THAT I I DON'T WANNA FEEL LIKE THAT

B: JOHN LEGEND <FOREIGN> I MEAN

A: WHAT

B: JOHN LEGEND IS IN THE SHOW

A: SO UH WHO TOLD YOU I LIKE JOHN LEGEND

B: WELL I JUST ASSUMED MANY PEOPLE LIKE JOHN LEGEND

A: WAIT JOHN LEGEND IS THE ONE WHO SANG ALL OF ME LOVES ALL

B: YES

A: HMM HE'S CUTE THOUGH

B: FUNNY THING UH FUNNY THING IT IS MY MALE FRIEND WHO INTRODUCED ME TO JOHN LEGEND

A: FOR REAL

B: YEAH AND THEY THEY KEPT SINGING HIS SONGS I WILL I DON'T ALWAYS I DON'T

A: YOU KNOW THE LAST TIME I HEARD A GUY SING SO MEN SING AMONGST YOURSELVES WHEN WHEN YOU'RE WITH YOUR BROS YOU YOU CAN SING TOGETHER BUT WHEN YOU'RE OUTSIDE YEAH YOU PLAY COOL

B: IN MY EXPERIENCE MEN SING YOU SAID IN YOUR EXPERIENCE MEN DON'T SING SO MAYBE <NO-SPEECH>

A: OKAY CAN YOU SING ME A SONG

B: PARDON

A: CAN YOU SING ME A SONG

B: UH NO YOU SEE MY MALE FRIENDS WHO SEE ACTUALLY CAN SING LIKE THEY'RE GOOD AT IT MY MALE FRIENDS WHO AREN'T GOOD AT SINGING NOT MANY OF THEM SING BY THE WAY THERE WAS THIS THERE WAS THIS LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW I FORGOT WHICH ONE

A: UH HUH

B: WHERE ED ED ED SHANNON WAS A GUEST

A: MM HMM

B: AND HE PLAYED A RECORDING OF HIS UH HIM OF HIMSELF SINGING SOME TIME AGO BEFORE HE BECAME FAMOUS

A: MM HMM

B: AND HE SANG HORRIBLY YEAH HE WAS HE WANTED TO SAY THAT HE BEFORE THAT HE HAD TALKED OF HOW HIS TALENT WAS EARNED HE LEARNED HOW TO SING THAT HE NEVER ALWAYS KNEW HOW TO SING HE WASN'T GOOD AND HE <NO-SPEECH>

A: DID YOU DID YOU JUST SAY ED SHEERAN OR ED SHANNON

B: IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ED SH <LAUGH> I KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT MY OLD FRIEND

A: ED SHEERAN REDHEAD

B: YEAH HE'S THE REDHEAD ED SHEERAN

A: IS IT OFFENSIVE TO TO REFER TO HIM AS A REDHEAD I THINK IT'S OFFENSIVE

B: OKAY HE HAS HAIR THAT HAS A RED COLOR OR ORANGE COLOR

A: I IT'S RIGHT

B: I THINK IT'S OFFENSIVE NOW IT'S LIKE SAYING GRAYHEAD

A: OH

B: GRAYHEAD GRAYHEAD ISN'T VERY OFFENSIVE NOW BUT THERE WAS A TIME IT USED TO BE A WAY OF DEMEANING OLD PEOPLE

A: OLD PEOPLE OR BLONDIE

B: YEAH I DON'T KNOW WHY WHY I DON'T LIKE BLONDES I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY PEOPLE LIKE BLONDES IN THE FIRST PLACE THERE THERE WAS THIS ASSUMPTION THAT BECAUSE OF ITALIAN POETRY WHEREBY SOME OF THE ITALIAN MEN WERE IN LOVE WITH WOMEN WHO ARE BLONDE

A: MM HMM

B: IT BECAME IDEAL TO HAVE BLONDE HAIR BECAUSE THE MOST FAMOUS POEMS ARE ABOUT BLONDE WOMEN THERE'S THAT IDEA

A: MM HMM

B: I HEARD THAT FROM UH FROM UH THERE'S THIS PROFESSOR WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT CS LEWIS AND IN THE PROCESS OF TALKING ABOUT POETRY THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT CONCEPT WHEREBY BLONDE BLONDENESS THE THE THE APPRECIATION OF BLONDE HAIR THAT MIGHT HAVE STEMMED FROM ITALIAN POETRY BECAUSE ITALIAN POETRY HAD A LOT OF BEAU BEAUTIFUL BLONDE UH AS PART OF THE LOVE INTEREST

A: OH

B: HMM

A: OKAY SO DWIGHT

A: YES

A: LET'S CONCLUDE THIS CONVERSATION

B: HMM

A: YES DO YOU WANT TO CONCLUDE

B: HOW DOES ONE CONCLUDE A CONVERSATION <DTMF>

A: IN CONCLUSION

B: IT'S NOT LIKE MY BUS IS HERE <LAUGH>

A: <LAUGH>

B: WE'LL TALK TOMORROW OR I'LL CALL YOU

A: IN ALL MY RESEARCH PAPERS CONCLUSIONS <FOREIGN> STARTED LIKE IN CONCLUSION ACCORDING TO THE DATA GATHERED WE HAVE ANALYZED THAT BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH UGH THAT WAS MY LINE

B: YEAH

A: IN CONCLUSION IN CONCLUSION UH HUH

B: YEAH IN CONCLUSION I THINK UH THE CONVERSATION WENT WELL I DID USE KISWAHILI WORDS A NUMBER OF TIMES

A: <DTMF>

B: ESPECIALLY IN LIKE THIS LAST PART

A: <LAUGH> I HOPE IT WON'T BE A PROBLEM I THINK WE

B: YEAH I HOPE SO TOO

A: WE WE'VE USED ENGLISH LIKE NINETY PERCENT OF IT LIKE OUR CONVERSATION

B: YEAH

A: NO YOU GO

B: YEAH WE'VE STUCK TO ENGLISH FOR THE MOST PART

A: WE'VE STUCK TO ENGLISH YEAH MM HMM

B: THERE ARE TIMES I I DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT WORD AND THERE ARE TIMES I DIRECT I DIRECTLY USED I DIRECTLY TRANSLATED SOMETHING TO TO <NO-SPEECH>

A: AH DIRECT TRANSLATION UH HUH

B: AND I'VE I'VE NOTICED I'VE REACHED A POINT IN MY LIFE WHEREBY I CANNOT DETECT DIRECT TRANSLATION IN

A: MM HMM

B: THERE ARE MOMENTS I CAN'T DETE DETECT IT IN ENGLISH AND IN SWAHILI

A: OH

B: LIKE I CAN MAKE A PHRASE IN SWAHILI THAT'S NOT CORRECT IN SWAHILI IT'S A PHRASE IN ENGLISH

A: ENGLISH

B: POUR ME TEA IN KISWAHILI THAT'S NOT CORRECT YOU CAN'T POUR SOMEONE TEA IN KISWAHILI

A: <FOREIGN> POUR POUR ME TEA <FOREIGN>

B: YEAH YOU CAN'T POUR YEAH SO THERE ARE SOME TO ME WHEN I USE IT IN BOTH LANGUAGES IT'S OKAY BUT THEN SOMEONE TELLS ME NO IT'S WRONG I WAS LIKE AND THEN I'M AND THEN IT HIT ME OH BY THE WAY IT'S ONLY RIGHT IN ONE NOT RIGHT IN THE OTHER

A: YEAH YEAH YEAH I REMEMBER

B: I TRIED TO <DTMF> THAT A FEW TIMES

A: I REMEMBER THERE'S A TIME IN MY PRIMARY SCHOOL THEY REALLY WANTED TO ENFORCE THIS HABIT OF SPEAKING IN ENGLISH SO THEY INTRODUCED THIS GADGET CALLED THE DISC IT LOOKS LIKE A DICE IF YOU GET THE DISC LIKE THREE TIMES OR FOUR TIMES PUNISHMENT AND IT KINDA HELPED WE STARTED SPEAKING IN ENGLISH THE FIRST FEW WEEKS FIRST FEW MONTHS BROKEN ENGLISH BUT HEY PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT WE WERE GOOD BUT THE THING IS OUR SWAHILI WORSENED

B: <NO-SPEECH>

A: YEAH NOW WE WERE SPEAKING BROKEN SWAHILI NOW THERE WAS NO BALANCE SO THEY HAD TO INTRODUCE SWAHILI DAY FRIDAYS OH YOU KNOW FRIDAYS YOU CAN SPEAK SWAHILI BUT FLUENT AND CORRECT SWAHILI SO THAT WAS THAT

B: WE HAD A SIMILAR THING WE USED TO CALL IT THE MOTO BUT NOW IT ALSO INVOLVED

A: MOTO LIKE FIRE

B: NO MO <DTMF> I WANT MAYBE

A: MOTTO LIKE M O T T O

B: I NEVER KNEW IT COULD HAVE BEEN DOUBLE T OR IT COULD HAVE BEEN A SINGLE T I NEVER ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT

A: OH

B: IT COULD HAVE ACTUALLY MEANT FIRE

A: YEAH DEFINITELY UH HUH