B: I MEAN WHEN THE WHEN WHEN THE KID IS YOU KNOW IN LIKE NIGERIA WHAT WHAT IT'S LIKE HE MIGHT WANT TO HE MIGHT WANT TO <DTMF> STRONGLY

A: I THINK NETWORK IS BAD HELLO I DIDN'T GET THAT WHAT DID YOU SAY

B: OKAY IT'S OKAY NOW I SAID YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE LIKE AH IT'S NOT GOING TO PAIN ME YOU KNOW WE CALL IT CHESTING WHEN THEY FLOG YOU AND YOU WANT TO FORM A BIG GIRL OUCH

A: I WASN'T A BIG GIRL I WASN'T I FEEL PAIN TOO

B: YEAH

A: YOU KNOW THEN YOU'RE STILL YOUNG LIKE GOD I I USED TO FEEL A LOT OF PAIN WHENEVER WE WERE BEEN FLOGGED FOR SOMETHING WE DID WRONG I'LL BE THE ONE TO CRY THE MOST AND THEN I LOOK AT MY BROTHER AND DEVELOP COURAGE BE LIKE

B: OH NO

A: DON'T CRY DON'T CRY NO HOLD IT <LAUGH> I'M LIKE DON'T CRY DON'T CRY BUT THE PAIN I'M FEELING I CAN'T HOLD IT I JUST CRY THEN LIKE THAT DAY MY DAD FLOGGED US FLOGGED US AND THEN AFTER THE FLOGGING TOLD US TO GO INSIDE TAKE OUT BIBLES AND THEN COME OUT THEN HE STARTED ADVISING US DON'T BE DISOBEDIENT CHILDREN

B: MM HMM

A: DON'T BE DON'T BE THIS DON'T BE THAT YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR TO YOUR PARENT HE ACTUALLY QUOTED THE VERSE OF THE BIBLE THAT SAYS CHILDREN OBEY YOUR PARENTS IN THE LORD QUOTED THIS

B: LET'S GO

A: PREACHED TO US THAT DAY

B: <NO-SPEECH> <OVERLAP>

A: HE PREACHED TO US THAT DAY AND TOLD US WE ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY SINNED BY DISOBEYING HIM AND ALL THAT SO ACTUALLY WE DID THAT

B: WHAT YOU

A: WHAT THAT IS SO GOOD MY VIEW

B: ONLY THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD BE

B: OF COURSE WE DID

B: I KNEW IT

A: I KNEW THAT <DTMF> STOP US FROM PLAYING FOOTBALL

B: YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

A: SO WE LIKE WE MADE IT OKAY WE TIME OURSELVES SOMEBODY WOULD BE ON THE GUARD SOMEBODY WOULD BE WATCHING WHEN

B: UH UH

B: YOU CAN'T TAKE FAULT FROM CHILDREN THAT'S TRUE <OVERLAP>

A: SOMEONE WOULD BE WATCHING WHEN OUR DAD IS COMING SO LIKE HE CAN THE SIGNAL OKAY STOP DAD IS COMING DAD IS COMING STOP PLAYING FOOTBALL DAD IS COMING SO THEN AFTER LIKE FIFTEEN MINUTES OR THIRTY MINUTES ANOTHER PERSON REPLACES THE PERSON ON GUARD SO LIKE WE'RE NOT CAUGHT UNAWARE THIS TIME AROUND SO WE'RE SO CALCULATIVE THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS NOBODY MUST BE CAUGHT YOU KNOW SO LIKE WELL THAT WAS QUITE FUN UM AT AT SOME POINT MY DAD ACTS LIKE HE GET USED TO THE FACT THAT COME ON HE HAS KIDS THAT LOVE FOOTBALL

B: THESE GUYS ARE NOT GONNA CHANGE

A: YES YEAH HE HAS KIDS THAT LOVE FOOTBALL I LOVE FOOTBALL UM MY BROTHERS LOVE FOOTBALL AND LIKE AT AT AT SOME POINT HE STARTED DEVELOPING INTEREST TOO HE STARTED WATCHING FOOTBALL SOMETIMES HE ALLOWED US TO GO PLAY FOOTBALL IF WE ASKED FOR PERMISSION AND UM IF WE HAVE UM ASSIGNMENTS WE'RE YET TO DO HE MAKE SURE WE DO THE ASSIGNMENT BEFORE GOING TO PLAY FOOTBALL SO LIKE HE HAD TO ADJUST WITH IT OKAY THIS IS JUST KIDS THAT WANNA HAVE FUN SO HE ALLOWED US AND THEN UP TO NOW I STILL LIKE FOOTBALL UM I COULD REMEMBER PLAYING FOOTBALL IN MY SECONDARY SCHOOL YEAH UM I WAS IN UM

B: MM HMM

A: I WAS IN THE FIFTH YEAR RIGHT YEAH NO

B: YOU MEAN YOU PLAYED FOOTBALL FOR YOUR FOR YOUR TEAM IN SECONDARY SCHOOL RIGHT

A: FOR MY CLASS YEAH I PLAYED FOOTBALL GOD I CAN'T FORGET THAT DAY IT WAS SO MEMORABLE ANYWAYS I DIDN'T SCORE A GOAL I DIDN'T SCORE ANY GOAL ANY GOAL AT ALL BUT I WAS QUITE ACTIVE YEAH I THINK THAT I WAS ABLE TO DEFEND WELL I'M VERY GOOD AT DEFENDING YES I'M VERY GOOD AT

B: HMM

A: DEFENDING

B: HMM

A: SO I WAS ABLE TO DEFEND WELL

B: I THINK I THINK YOU ARE I THINK YOU ARE

A: <LAUGH>

B: IF YOU ASK ME IF SOMEONE ASKS ME I'D SAY YEAH YEAH REALLY WELL THAT'S NICE THAT'S NICE YEAH <OVERLAP>

A: YEAH SO LIKE UM THAT DAY UM I WAS IN THE FIFTH YEAR WAS IT THE FIFTH LET'S SEE UH NO I WAS IN S S ONE YEAH THAT'S THE S SENIOR SECONDARY UM SCHOOL ONE

B: YEAH

A: YEAH THAT WAS LIKE THE FOURTH YEAR YEAH SO WE PLAYED AGAINST MY CLASS WAS CLASS A PLAYED AGAINST CLASS B YEAH SO YOU KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF COMPETITION CLASS A CLASS B CLASS C CLASS D AND UH CLASS E SO THERE WERE FIVE CLASSES PLAYED AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WAS TWO CLASSES LEFT YOU KNOW THEY DID A LOT OF DRAWS AND ALL THAT TWO CLASSES WAS LEFT SO WELL YOU KNOW I DID MY BEST BUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY WIN <LAUGH> WE DIDN'T WIN THE COMPETITION BUT I KNEW I HAD A LOT OF <NO-SPEECH> <OVERLAP>

B: WHAT WHAT UH

A: I HAD A LOT OF <NO-SPEECH>

B: YEAH WHAT OTHER SPORTS DO YOU LIKE LIKE APART FROM FOOTBALL

A: YOU SAID

B: WHAT OTHER SPORTS DO YOU LIKE APART FROM FOOTBALL

A: OH YEAH I THINK APART FROM FOOTBALL I ALSO PLAYED BASKETBALL YEAH UM BECAUSE OF MY HEIGHT

B: BASKET WHAT

A: YES

A: I USED TO LIKE BASKETBALL

B: YEAH BECAUSE OF YOUR HEIGHT

A: YEAH BECAUSE YOU KNOW I LIKE THE GAME THE GAME IS QUITE INTERESTING I DO WATCH A LOT OF IT ON TV AND STUFF I LIKE THE GAME THE GAME IS INTERESTING BUT YOU KNOW IT'S I WON'T SAY IT'S LIKE FOR TALL PEOPLE PEOPLE THAT ARE TALL YOU KNOW I'M ACTUALLY FIVE SIX SO UM FIVE SEVEN RATHER YEAH I THINK I'VE ADDED FEW INCHES SO

B: NAH I DON'T AGREES WITH THAT

A: YEAH IT'S BEEN A WHILE YOU'VE SEEN ME

B: HOW WILL YOU ADD FEW INCHES NO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN

A: YOU THINK SO SO YOU YOU YOU'RE THINKING I'M STUNTED <OVERLAP>

B: YOU MIGHT YOU MIGHT YOU MIGHT FEE

A: IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME NOW <OVERLAP>

B: YOU MIGHT WAIT WAIT WAIT HOLD ON YOU MIGHT FEEL TALL OKAY IT'S A FEELING I UNDERSTAND SO DON'T LET ME GIVE YOU THAT IMPRESSION BUT YOU MIGHT FEEL TALL YOU KNOW YOU YOU

A: I REFUSE TO GET MAD RIGHT NOW

B: YOU CAN'T YOU KNOW YOU KNOW WE ARE TALL WE ARE TALL GUYS

A: I REFUSE TO GET MAD

B: YOU GET SO SO I KNOW YOU WANNA BE TALL AS AS WE BUT YOU KNOW I UNDERSTAND

A: YOU THINK I WON'T BE TALL AS YOU

B: <LAUGH>

A: EXCUSE ME YOU'RE JUST FEW INCHES TALLER THAN ME

B: <LAUGH>

A: FEW INCHES

B: NO <LAUGH>

A: YOU'RE NOT AS TALL AS THOSE FOOTBALLERS I USED TO ADMIRE SORRY THOSE BASKETBALLERS I USED TO ADMIRE

B: <LAUGH>

A: YEAH

B: ANYWAYS EVERY WOMAN A ADMIRES A TALL MAN THAT'S JUST THE BASELINE

A: NO LIKE FOOTBALLERS ARE QUITE DIFFERENT THOSE THAT ARE YOU KNOW THOSE WITH THE NORMAL TALLNESS NOT THE EXTREME TALLNESS KIND OF THING YOU KNOW THEY'RE QUITE DIFFERENT THEY ARE PHYSICALLY

B: OKAY LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION <OVERLAP>

A: YOU KNOW

B: YOU LIKED YOU LIKE TALL BASKETBALLERS RIGHT

A: YEAH TALL BASKETBALLERS

B: WHAT IF WHAT IF YOU SEE A TALL VERY SKINNY BASKETBALLER LIKE THIS LIKE YOU KNOW ALL TRAINED UP AND ALL <LAUGH>

A: YOU DON'T NEED YOU DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SKINNY NO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SKINNY YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SKINNY YOU NEED TO HAVE MUSCLES BECAUSE IN BASKETBALL YOU NEED YOU NEED YOUR MUSCLE TO THROW TO DUNK YOU KNOW YOU NEED YOUR MUSCLE YOUR YOUR THIGHS YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR LEGS TOO YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO BE ENERGIZED

B: YOU

A: YOU KNOW THAT

B: MUST HAVE A WIDE IMAGINATIONS BECAUSE THE WAY YOU'RE EXPLAINING THE WAY YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE PERSON HMM AH THAT'S JUST WONDERFUL

A: <LAUGH>

B: ANYWAYS ANYWAYS I LOVE BAS UM FOOTBALL ALSO AND UM

A: <DTMF>

B: BASICALLY I YOU KNOW THE REASON I DON'T REALLY LIKE YOU KNOW UH FOOTBALL WAS BECAUSE UM PEOPLE AROUND ME WHEN I WAS GROWING UP THEY ARE NOT THIS FOOTBALL KIND OF A PERSON SO UH WHAT I USED TO DO LIKE THE SPORTS WHICH I REALLY GOT INTERESTED IN WAS UM CYCLING AND SWIMMING

A: OKAY

B: AND 'CAUSE YOU KNOW I SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME WITH MY GRANNY I THINK I SPENT ABOUT I TOLD YOU ABOUT MY GRANNY BEFORE

A: MM HMM

B: AND UM YOU KNOW IT WAS IN UM IT MORE LIKE A VILLAGE SO WE UM WHEN WE WANT TO FETCH WATER FOR UM YOU KNOW UH FOR DRINKING OR YOU KNOW WATER FOR OR WE WANNA WASH CLOTHES WE USED TO GO TO THE STREAMS THE RIVERS OKAY SO THAT'S WHERE WE'D GO TO TO UM YOU KNOW SO SO THERE I WAS ABLE TO SEE OTHER KIDS YOU KNOW PLAYING IN THE RIVER SWIMMING AND OTHER THINGS SO I JUST STARTED LOVE SWIMMING

A: OKAY

B: SO UH ABOUT CYCLING ABOUT CYCLING AS IN THAT WAS THE FIRST GIFT I GOT I GOT A A BICYCLE FROM <OVERLAP>

A: REALLY

B: FROM MY DAD YEAH

A: WOW

B: I WAS SO SMALL THEN AND SCHOOL WAS LIKE

A: WAS IT A BIRTHDAY GIFT <OVERLAP>