B: UH IT IT WAS MORE LIKE UM YOU KNOW GRADE GIFT HE HE TOLD ME IF YOU CAN DO WELL IN YOUR GRADES I'M GONNA BUY YOU A BICYCLE AND I HAD TO STRIVE HARD BECAUSE

A: WOW

B: I SAW I SAW A COMMERCIAL THEN WHEN SOMEONE WAS WHERE A A KID I THINK IN ONE OF THOSE MOVIES THEN WHEN A KID A KID WAS RIDING ON THAT BIG BIKE SO I WAS LIKE I'M GONNA I I WANNA GET THIS BIG BIKE SO WHEN THE EVEN WHEN THEY GAVE ME THIS SMALL BIKE I SAID NO I DON'T WANT IT

A: YEAH

B: SO THERE WAS ONE TIME WHEN I I GOT THIS UH BIG PALM WINE TAPPERS BIKE WE USED TO CALL IT PALM WINE TAPPERS BIKE 'CAUSE IT'S A VERY BIG LONG TINY BIKE OKAY IT IT'S IT'S MAJORLY USED BY LOCALS ALSO BECAUSE IT'S VERY STRONG

A: OKAY

B: IT'S NOT A SPORTS TYPE SO IT WAS WAY TALLER THAN ME LIKE THE SEAT THE SEAT IS UP TO MY HEAD YOU GET <NO-SPEECH> <OVERLAP>

A: AND YOU WERE STILL A KID THEN

B: I WAS I WAS STILL A KID SO I SAID I I WANT THIS BIKE I WANT I I WANT THIS BICYCLE SO UM ONE OF THESE DAYS I WAS ONE OF THOSE DAYS I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL AND UM I SAW THIS MAN DROVE THE BIKE AND HE WAS HE WAS BUSY WITH SOMETHING SO I TOLD HIM I SAID UM I WANT TO RIDE THE THE BICYCLE AND HE JUST LOOKED AT ME LOOKED AT HIS BICYCLE HE SAID YOU HOW CAN YOU RIDE THIS BICYCLE THE SEAT THE SIZE OF THE SEAT IS YOUR HEIGHT HOW ARE YOU GONNA RIDE IT <LAUGH>

A: YEAH

B: SO UM PRIOR TO THAT TIME PRIOR TO THAT TIME I ACTUALLY I HAVE BEEN RIDING BICYCLES TOO YOU KNOW LIKE MY SIZE AND A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN YOU KNOW TALLER THAN ME

A: YEAH

B: SO THAT BICYCLE WE CALL IT SIZE TWENTY SIX SIZE TWENTY SIX <OVERLAP>

A: <NO-SPEECH>

B: SO SO HE HE JUST MADE FUN OF ME HE HE HE KNEW I I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RIDE IT SO HE JUST SAID OKAY GO AHEAD AND THERE WAS THIS SLIPPERY SLOPE THERE THIS VERY VERY VERY STEEP SOPE SLOPE RIGHT BESIDE THAT PLACE SO I JUST MANAGED TO PUT MY LEG ON THE PEDAL I PUSHED IT AND I JUMPED ON THE SEAT

A: OH GOD <OVERLAP>

B: SO <NO-SPEECH> I WAS NOW GOING

B: I WAS NOW GOING I WAS NOW GOING SO THE THE THING IS I WAS REALLY SCARED BUT I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT FUN LIKE I MUST RIDE THIS BIKE TODAY SO I I WAS GOING I WAS HAPPY I WAS GOING THROUGH THAT STO SLOPE I WAS JUST HAPPY I WAS JUST SO I JUST SAW THE MAN RUNNING FROM THE BACK

A: <LAUGH>

B: AND HE WAS REALLY SCARED WITH HANDS ON HIS HEAD LIKE OH WHAT HAVE I DONE OKAY

B: <NO-SPEECH> JUST SAW HIM FROM THE BACK HE NOW SHOUTED THERE IS NO BRAKE

B: YOU KNOW THE FUNNY THING IS THAT SLOPE IS SO STEEP <OVERLAP>

A: OH MY GOD

A: YEAH

B: WAS SO SHARP

A: MM

B: AND THE FRONT WAS SOMEONE'S HOUSE SOMEONE'S HOUSE SO THERE'S THIS OLD WOMAN THAT ALWAYS LIE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE SO AS I WAS COMING WITH FULL SPEED YOU KNOW IT WAS STEEPY I WAS LIKE GOD WHAT AM I GONNA DO TODAY AND I WAS GOING STRAIGHT SEE THE GRANDMA THERE LYING DOWN OUTSIDE I WAS LIKE I'M GONNA HIT THIS GRANDMA TODAY IT WAS SO BAD THAT AND THERE WAS NO BRAKE SO WHAT AM I GONNA DO I HAD THIS SHOE ONE OF MY FAVORITE SHOE WHEN I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL THAT WAS THE SHOE I WAS WEARING THEN I JUST USED THE SHOE LIKE A FORM OF A BRAKE AND I HELD THE TWO TIRES TOGETHER LIKE MY SHOE WAS WAS WAS WEARING OFF TILL IT GOT TO MY FEET

A: DAMN <OVERLAP>

B: AND IT WAS A VERY CLOSE CALL

A: OH MY GOD

B: IT WAS A VERY CLOSE CALL I STILL IN TIME FELL DOWN BUT BUT THE INJURY WAS LESS LIKE THAT DAY I WAS SO SCARED REALLY 'CAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA KILL SOMEONE I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA DIE REALLY BUT WHEN I STOPPED THE BIKE AND I FELL OFF I WAS LIKE YEAH I'M GONNA DO THIS AGAIN

B: YEAH SO THEN LIKE

A: I'VE ALWAYS KNOWN YOU TO BE SOMEONE

B: YEAH YEAH YEAH THAT THAT'S THE EXPERIENCE <OVERLAP>

A: I'VE ALWAYS KNOWN YOU TO BE SOMEONE

B: UH YEAH UM I AM I I'M ALWAYS CONFIDENT OF THAT IT'S MORE IT'S MORE LIKE BEING GUTSY OKAY WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME TO DO THINGS AND I FELT I FEEL I WANNA DO THIS IT IT'S MORE LIKE PEOPLE THINK I'M STUBBORN BUT IT'S MORE LIKE A GUT FEELING I LOVE FEELING MY GUT EVERY TIME 'CAUSE I I THINK MY GUT IS ALWAYS UH RIGHT MOST OF THE TIME AND I LIKE IT SO PEOPLE SAY I'M STUBBORN SO YEAH I'M STUBBORN YEAH SO THAT REALLY MADE ME LIKE UM BIKE BICYCLES

A: AWESOME

B: UH AND SWIMMING ALSO BECAME PART OF ME LOVE SWIMMING I UM THOUGH REALLY I'VE NOT BEEN DEVELOPING MYSELF YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF SWIMMING MAYBE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE LONG ARMS BUT YOU KNOW I STILL TRY I COULD SURVIVE IF THERE WAS UM YOU KNOW WATER BREAK IN MY AREA TODAY I'LL SURVIVE SO THAT'S THAT'S PLUS FOR ME YOU KNOW

A: YEAH I GET THAT YOU KNOW YOU REALLY HAVE A LOT OF SPORTS YOU LIKE I REALLY LIKE THAT ABOUT YOU YOU LIKE SWIMMING YOU LIKE CYCLING YOU LIKE FOOTBALL AS WELL RIGHT

B: YEAH I DO AND YOU KNOW UM WITH PEOPLE LIKE <NO-SPEECH> <OVERLAP>

A: DO YOU PLAY FOOTBALL OFTEN DO YOU PLAY FOOTBALL OFTEN

B: MM NOT THAT OFTEN BECAUSE UH YOU KNOW I REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE YOU KNOW <OVERLAP>

A: GROWING UP AS A KID DID YOU PLAY FOOTBALL UM NOW THAT YOU'RE AN ADULT DID YOU DO YOU STILL PLAY FOOTBALL <OVERLAP>

B: YOU KNOW MOST TIMES WHEN I PLAYED FOOTBALL WHEN I WAS A KID WAS PROBABLY YOU KNOW IF IT WERE TO BE COMPULSORY COMPETITION IN SCHOOL AND UM SO I DON'T REALLY DEVELOP THAT YOU KNOW UH IMPRESSION UM WHEN I WAS A KID I WAS LIKE THIS NERD OKAY SO I USED TO HAVE THIS LIKE NERD GROUPS GUYS THAT WE WE WE ARE ACTUALLY MORE TECHNOLOGICALLY INCLINED THEN SO WE DO THINGS THAT ARE LIKE YOU KNOW TRYING TO INNOVATE I WOULD I WOULD IT WOULD REALLY INTEREST YOU THAT MY SCIENCE CLUB I INVENTED A SHOULD I SAY INVENTED OR OR I JUST I BROUGHT UP AN IDEA I MADE UM A BLENDER I I PRACTICALLY PRODUCED A BLENDER

A: YOU ARE KIDDING

B: SO BECAUSE

A: YOU'RE DEFINITELY KIDDING

B: YES AND I WAS A KID THEN I WAS A KID THEN

A: HOW OLD WERE YOU HOW OLD WERE YOU THEN

B: UH UH I WAS ABOUT TWELVE YEARS AND I MADE THIS

A: WOW

B: I MADE THESE THINGS OUT OF UH UH A MILK CAN A METAL MILK CAN UM SOME CARDBOARDS AND A ROUTER SO I I WON <OVERLAP>

A: WHY DO I FEEL I CAN'T BELIEVE

B: I WON REALLY IT WAS SO SO INTERESTING THEN SO THIS LIKE UH <OVERLAP>

A: LIKE IT BLENDED

B: SCIENCE TEACHER YEAH YEAH OUR SCIENCE TEACHER WAS SO IMPRESSED SO THE THING IS THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT GOT LEAKY IT WAS LEAKING 'CAUSE THERE WAS THE PLACE THE PLACE THAT I PUT TOMATO IN THE PLACE HAD HAD SOME HOLES SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU PLACED A TOMATO THERE <LAUGH> IT IT WAS LEAKING AND THE WORST OF ALL IS THE PEPPER THERE BECAUSE THEY ADDED PEPPER AND TOMATO THEY WANTED TO CHECK HOW GOOD IT IS SO THE WATER THE WATER GOT INTO THE WIRES IT STARTED SPARKING AGAIN

A: WOW

B: IT JUST BLASTED EVERY EVERYWHERE <OVERLAP>

A: OH MY GOD

B: OUR OUR THIRD SISTER SHE WAS LYDIA AND SO SHE HER EYES WERE SO RED WHEN SHE GOT TO THE

A: DAMN

B: SHE WAS LIKE CLAP FOR HIM CLAP FOR HIM HE TRIED HE TRIED AT LEAST SO I WAS THIS <DTMF> GUY I WASN'T REALLY INTO YOU KNOW THE FOOTBALL STUFF FOR THE MOST PART SO I HAD TO LIKE I I HAD TO LIKE EVENTUALLY YOU KNOW CHOOSE MY MY STRONG SPORTS

A: YEAH

B: SO I WASN'T SO GOOD WITH FOOTBALL SO I HAD TO LIKE OKAY SINCE I'M GOOD WITH SCIENCE SINCE I'M GOOD WITH YOU KNOW SNIFF NIFTY STUFFS I LIKE CREATING THINGS I LIKE INNOVATING LET ME JUST GO THERE

A: MM HMM

B: SO I THINK THAT IDEOLOGY SOMEHOW BROUGHT ME UP I BECAME THE PERSON I AM NOT REALLY LIKING FOOTBALL BUT YOU KNOW I AM WITH FRIENDS WHO REALLY ENJOY PLAYING FOOTBALL WATCHING FOOTBALL

A: YEAH

B: I'VE GOT GUYS AND SO UH SOMETIMES I FOLLOWED THEM THERE AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT I STARTED DEVELOPING SOME YOU KNOW UH INTEREST BUT NOT REALLY THAT INTERESTING NOT REALLY THAT BIG INTEREST JUST YOU KNOW I'M WITH MY GUYS WE NEED TO WATCH BALL UH SO I I REALLY KIND OF LIKED LIKE IT SOMETIMES AND SOMETIMES WE PLAY FOOTBALL ALSO WITH SPORT WHEN WHEN WE WANT TO IMPRESS SOME PEOPLE WE JUST DO THAT TO HAVE FUN YOU KNOW

A: OKAY

B: BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE GUYS YOU CAN'T SAY YOU DON'T WANT TO PLAY BALL IT'S GONNA SOUND SOMEHOW UH

A: MM HMM

B: THAT'S JUST IS YEAH

A: YEAH YOU'RE CORRECT SO LIKE YOU KNOW

B: YEAH