A: UM SALARY PAYMENT HAS BEEN QUITE SLOW YEAH DELAYED YES SUSTAINED SO UM I'M PLANNING ON CHANGING JOBS YOU KNOW GETTING TO DO SOMETHING FOR MYSELF LEARN NEW SKILLS YOU KNOW FOCUS ON YOU KNOW GIVING MYSELF THAT KIND OF VIBE I REALLY WANT YOU KNOW SOMETHING I CAN DO WITH SO MUCH HAPPINESS AND JOY YOU KNOW HOW IT IS NOW YOU KNOW YOU KNOW

B: RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT

A: YOU KNOW ME I ALWAYS LIKE TO YOU KNOW I ALWAYS LIKE TO TRY ON NEW THINGS SO I KIND OF REALIZED UM I THINK I'VE BEEN SLACKING I NEED TO DO THINGS FOR MYSELF UH

B: YOU KNOW YEAH

A: I NEED TO IMPROVE MY SKILLS AND STUFF

B: UH HUH

A: SO LIKE I HAVE MADE UP MY MIND TO LEARN A COUPLE OF SKILLS YEAH WHICH I'M I'M WORKING ON ALREADY YOU KNOW SO I CAN I WAS LOOKING TO GOING INTO THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP ASPECT YOU GET

B: THAT IS WHAT I WANNA SAY SINCE YOU WANNA YOU KNOW GO INTO THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP ASPECT

A: YEAH

B: HONESTLY BUT I MUST WARN YOU UM ENTREPRENEURSHIP YOU KNOW BEING ON YOUR OWN IS NOT SOMETHING FOR THE WEAK IT'S SOMETHING FOR YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THAT

A: OKAY

B: AND YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT I JUST I BEGAN DISCOVERING THESE THINGS WHEN I YOU KNOW GOT INTO THE MIDDLE AT A PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME I TE I CAN HONESTLY TELL YOU THAT I GOT REALLY TIRED SOMETIMES I

A: OH

B: GOT SO FRUSTRATED I REALLY GOT SO YOU KNOW THE THING IS THAT UM I I WAS READING A BOOK ABOUT UM UM YOU KNOW ABOUT HABITS AND

A: OKAY

B: I GOT TO DISCOVER THAT HUMAN BEING LIKES HABIT YOU KNOW HUMAN BEING LIKES THE HUMAN LIKES TO DO THINGS THAT HAVE INSTANT REWARD

A: OKAY

B: LIKE SAY YOU'RE CRAVING FOR A FOOD NOW YOU GET PIZZA INSTANTLY YOU EAT IT YOU ENJOY IT YOU WANNA WATCH A MOVIE YOU KNOW YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING INSTANT BUT IMAGINE SOMETHING WHICH IS GONNA PAY YOU IN THE NEXT MAYBE FIVE SIX SEVEN YEARS IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO ACTUALLY ENVISAGE YOU KNOW TO ACTUALLY UM LOOK AT THAT REWARD AND FEEL HAPPY SO SOMETIMES WHEN YOU DO IS WHEN YOU DON'T FEEL THE WHEN YOU DON'T GET THE REWARD YOU WILL FEEL DISCOURAGED FOR EXAMPLE IF I WERE TO TELL YOU THAT IF YOU COME AND AND INVEST IN A BUSINESS WITH YOUR MONEY

A: YEAH

B: AND A HUGE SUM OF MONEY YOU KNOW THE THE MAIN REASON WHY YOU MIGHT WANT TO YOU KNOW NOT BE SO HAPPY TO DO IT IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T NE YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN THE REWARD IS GONNA COME

A: YEAH THAT'S TRUE

B: THEN MAYBE WHAT HAS BEEN CALCULATED IN THE NEXT FOUR FIVE YEARS

A: CORRECT YOU'RE CORRECT

B: THAT IS WHY MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO INVEST AND DO THAT BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SAVE IF YOU TELL IF YOU TELL SOMEONE THAT COME AND SAVE EH SO THAT IN YOUR FUTURE NEXT TEN TWENTY YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO BE RICH MOST PEOPLE DON'T DO IT SO IT'S SO STRESSFUL SO IT'S THE SAME THING WITH ENTRE ENTREPRENEURSHIP BECAUSE NOW STARTING UP A BUSINESS YOU HAVE TO INVEST A LOT YOU HAVE TO PUT IN YOUR MONEY YOUR ENERGY HELL SINCE YESTERDAY NIGHT I HAVE BEEN I HAVE BEEN WORKING I I I HAD THIS A FRIEND WHICH I WAS WORKING DOING A FEW UH UM UH STARTUP IDEAS AND STUFF WITH WE'VE BEEN WORKING ALL NIGHT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACHIEVE THAT GOAL IT WASN'T REALLY SATISFYING SO IT'S STRESSFUL SO IN A NUTSHELL YOU NEED TO YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT UM DETERMINATION THAT HEY COME RAIN COME SHINE I NEED TO CONTINUE HITTING THE NAIL ON THE HEAD TILL I GET SUCCESS SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE PIECE OF ADVICE FOR ME YOU KNOW I ALWAYS LIKE ADVISING YOU AND IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE THOUGH YOU KNOW I I LIKE WOMEN WHO ARE YOU KNOW ENTREPRENEURSHIP INCLINED THEY I LIKE WOMEN BEING A LITTLE BIT YOU KNOW BOSS HAVING THEIR OWN STUFF YOU GET SO THAT'S JUST IT

A: YOU KNOW I'VE MISSED YOU A LOT <LAUGH>

B: YEAH

A: I MISSED THIS ABOUT YOU YOU KNOW I KEEP GETTING THIS ADVICE BUT IN A WHILE WE'VE NOT BEEN COMMUNICATING YOU KNOW NO ONE TO ADVISE ME WHAT TO DO I REALLY MISSED YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING MY TIME TODAY

B: YOU'RE WELCOME YOU'RE WELCOME YOU'RE WELCOME YOU'RE WELCOME YOU'RE WELCOME

A: OKAY SO UM THAT ASIDE I ALSO PLAN ON ON UM YOU KNOW FURTHERING MY STUDIES YEAH THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN AS YOU KNOW

B: YEAH YEAH SO I I THINK I WANTED TO CALL YOU EVERY TIME I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT INSTITUTION YOU WERE GOING FOR ARE YOU STILL DO YOU WANNA CHANGE COURSE I THINK YOU YOU READ UM YOU READ SOMETHING CLOSE TO ANIMAL STUFF THEN BUT DO YOU WANT TO ALSO STUDY SORRY IF I'M ASKING TOO MANY QUESTIONS BUT DO YOU WANT TO ALSO STUDY IN UM IN THE COUNTRY OR YOU KNOW DO YOU LIKE TO GO TO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO STUDY I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW AND LASTLY I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA BE CHANGING YOUR DISCIPLINE I I JUST WANT TO GET TO KNOW THOSE THINGS 'CAUSE UM I THINK I COULD YOU KNOW

A: YEAH

B: GIVE ADVICE FROM THERE AND UM I HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I CAN JUST UM YOU KNOW THEY CAN HELP YOU UP HELP YOU OUT ALSO YEAH

A: OKAY UM ACTUALLY I STILL WANNA STICK TO MY COURSE YEAH I DON'T PLAN ON CHANGING YOU KNOW

B: OKAY

A: CHANGING FIELDS IT'S VERY LUCRATIVE YES THAT I KNOW AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT ASPECT OF IT

B: YEAH

A: AND UM YEAH I'M PLANNING ON YOU KNOW STUDYING ABROAD YEAH BECAUSE YOU KNOW I GET THE EXPOSURE THERE

B: YEAH YEAH

A: THE THE STRUCTURE THE EQUIPMENT AND THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM OUR COUNTRY SO LIKE EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT

B: OKAY

A: SO I WANT TO EXPERIENCE THAT YOU KNOW NOW I'VE ALWAYS MENTIONED THAT TO YOU YEAH

B: YEAH YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE IT'S BEEN

A: YEAH

B: BEEN SINCE FIVE YEARS WAY BACK YEAH I KNOW

A: YEAH SO LIKE THAT'S THE PLAN YOU KNOW I'M MAKING A LOT OF APPLICATIONS ACTUALLY SO HOPEFULLY I SHOULD GET

B: OH GOOD

A: YEAH I SHOULD GET THE RESPONSE LET'S SAY THIS MONTH OR NEXT MONTH BUT DON'T WORRY I'M GONNA INFORM YOU ONCE I GET THAT IT'S NOT AN ISSUE

B: YEAH OKAY

A: ALL RIGHT YEAH SO HAS THERE

B: SO UM DURING THAT ASPECT IS THERE ANYTHING YOU I I I DID YOU HIT ANY ROADBLOCK OR YOU KNOW CHALLENGES DURING THE ASPECT OF YOU KNOW SECURING UM BECAUSE YOU KNOW I USED TO HEAR A LOT OF MY FRIENDS TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW HAVING DIFFICULTIES IN YOU KNOW JUST UM GETTING SAY MAYBE ADMISSION OR I DON'T KNOW MAYBE SCHOLARSHIP OR MAYBE GRANTS I USED TO HEAR THAT THING UH UH NORMALLY TO ME I THINK IT'S SOMEHOW EASY BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT IT IT'S JUST YOU KNOW YOU CHOOSING A PARTICULAR INSTITUTION YOU WANT TO GO TO AND JUST APPLY AND YOU SHOULD BE SELECTED I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN WRITE YOUR UM WRITE A PROPOSAL PROPERLY SO I NEED TO KNOW IS IT HAS IT BEEN HARD HAS IT BEEN EASY JUST GIVE ME THE I WANT TO HAVE A PICTURE OKAY YEAH

A: OKAY UM I THINK BASICALLY THE ISSUE I HAVE IS LIKE OKAY GETTING THE SCHOLARSHIP YOU KNOW SCHOLARSHIP IS ACTUALLY VERY VERY COMPETITIVE YEAH

B: OH REALLY

A: SO YES YES IT IS SO LIKE YOU HAVE TO LIKE HAVE A VERY I HAVE A GOOD GOOD RESULT YEAH I DO BUT THE THING IS

B: YEAH

A: UM THE COMPETITION WITH UM PEOPLE OTHER PEOPLE WITH BETTER BETTER RESULT LIKE BETTER UNDERGRADUATE RESULTS YOU KNOW IT'S ALWAYS VERY HIGH AND UM AS AN INTERNATIONAL STUDENT YOU YOU HAVE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS TO MEET UP TO AND UM DUE TO THE COMPETITION YOU FIND OUT THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU HAVE TO LIKE GO EXTRA MILE

B: MMH

A: YOUR YOUR APPLICATIONS YOUR STATEMENT OF PURPOSE YOUR UM YOUR PERSONAL STATEMENTS UM LET'S LET'S ASSUME YOU'RE EVEN GOING FOR A RESEARCH COURSE YOU HAVE TO WRITE UM WHAT'S IT CALLED UM UM WHAT'S THIS THIS WORD FOR IT YEAH UM

B: IS IT STATEMENT OF PROPOSAL OR SOMETHING

A: YEAH STATEMENT OF PROPOSAL SIDE

B: OKAY OKAY

A: ALSO I HAVE TO TO UM RESEARCH PROPOSAL YEAH YOU HAVE TO WRITE A RESEARCH PROPOSAL

B: OH

A: YES SO LIKE YOU HAVE TO GET SOMETHING YOU KNOW LET YOUR YOUR DOCUMENT AND EVERYTHING BE TOP NOTCH SO LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU MEET UP WITH THE STANDARD OF WHAT THEY WANT SO THAT'S THAT'S PART OF WHAT HAS BEEN QUITE CHALLENGING YOU KNOW GETTING THE ADMISSION IS NOT ACTUALLY A BIG DEAL YEAH AS LONG AS YOU'RE GOING TO A GOOD BUT THE SCHOLARSHIP THE COMPETITION FOR SCHOLARSHIP IS ACTUALLY QUITE HIGHER

B: OH

A: BECAUSE YOU'RE COMPETING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE YES

B: PEOPLE