A: OKAY UM SO WE CAN CONTINUE NOW UM IS THERE UH ANY PLACE WHERE UH YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO ON HOLIDAY JUST NOW

B: MM THERE ARE SO MANY PLACES THAT WHEN I LIKE TO GO UM I LIKE UM EXPLORING FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND UH INTERESTING UH NATURE PLACES AND MAYBE ESPECIALLY I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO SOME UM EAST COUNTRY UM MAYBE MYANMAR THAILAND OR UH SOME OTHER UH COUNTRY IN THE FAR EAST AND UM TO SEE UM THE RICH UH GREEN NATURE WITH UM A LOT OF PALM TREES AND UM INTERESTING UH SPECIES UM A LOT OF UM BIRDS MAYBE MAYBE SOME MONKEYS AND OTHER UM UNUSUAL FOR ME UH NATURE UH THAT'S IT'S MY DREAM

A: ALL RIGHT SO UH SOMETHING THAT'S FAR AND AND UH SOMETHING IN UH SOME COUNTRY UH UH SO I IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE UH ONE OF THEM TO GO F TO GO FIRST FOR EXAMPLE IS IT THAILAND OR BURMA OR SO WHICH ONE WOULD BE FIRST

B: UH I DON'T KNOW IT DEPENDS ON UM HOW IT UH WILL BE ORGANIZED IT DEPENDS ON UH WHAT UH WILL BE THE THINGS THAT UH YOU CAN DO WHEN YOU GO THERE WHAT UH KIND OF UM MM CULTURAL HERITAGE AND NATURE OR UM UH RESORT YOU CAN VISIT AND UH ALSO IT DEPENDS UH ON UM UH WHAT UH WOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO ME FROM FRIENDS OR FROM TOURIST AGENCY AND UH DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR ME

A: WELL UH I I SUGGEST NOT LISTENING TO THE TOURIST AGENCIES BECAUSE THAT UH BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR JOB TO UM TO SELL A DESTINATION SO OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL UH PAINT IT IN THE MOST POSITIVE WAY BUT UH MAYBE IF IF YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE UH THIS WOULD BE A BETTER GUIDE NOW UM BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES BURMA AND THAILAND UH UH I I GUESS BURMA WOULD BE MORE CALM BUT THEN AGAIN THEY HAVE HAD SOME UH THEY THEY HAVE HAD A COUP D'ETAT JUST LAST YEAR AND THEY HAVE A A HUNTER A MILITARY HUNTER RULING THE COUNTRY SO YES THERE AREN'T MANY MANY TOURISTS THERE BUT UH IT'S A BIT CHAOTIC WHILE WHILE I KNOW FOR THAILAND THE IT'S A DESTINATION THAT WHICH IS VISITED BY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE EACH YEAR SO IT'S DEFINITELY MORE CROWDED AND MORE UH COMMERCIALIZED LET'S SAY SO EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AND IN EVERY IN EVERY PLACE YOU WOULD GO THERE UH WOULD BE A LOT MORE CROWDED WOULD BE WOULD BE PAID WOULD BE MM MODIFIED TO IN SOME WAY FOR THE TASTE OF THE TOURISTS UH SO THERE ARE TRADE OFFS IN IN BOTH IT'S IT'S A MATTER OF UH CHOOSING WHAT LIKE EXACTLY YOU YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU WILL GET TO DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES

B: OKAY MAYBE THERE ARE SOME PLACES UH BROUGHT IN IN BROAD COUNTRIES THAT AREN'T SO POPULAR AND UH WHERE YOU CAN UM HAVE UM MORE NATURE OR EXPERIENCE AND YOU CAN MEET UM NATIVE PEOPLES AND UH OTHER UH NOT SO COMMERCIAL OR UH ATTRACT ATTRACTIVENESS AND ATTRACTIONS AND UM MAYBE IF UM I HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE A FRIEND WHO KNOW WELL UM THE UM UH LOCAL LOCAL SCENE OR SOME MM LOCAL TO TOURISTIC AGENCY WHICH IS UH COMMITTED TO PROVIDE UM NATIVE EXPERIENCE AND UH MAYBE I'LL CHOOSE SUCH KIND OF HOLIDAY

A: UM I'M NOT SURE OF SUCH THINGS 'CAUSE UH WELL ESPECIALLY FOR FOR THAILAND IT'S UH I MEAN THE PLACE THAT PEOPLE DON'T GO ARE USUALLY MORE RURAL PLACES WHERE PEOPLE JUST WORK THEY'RE NOT UM UH IT'S NOT IN ANY WAY UH <DTMF> ACROSS SOME TOURISTS UH SO IT WOULD BE MORE OF A IMPROMPTU UH WAY OF TRAVELING WHERE YOU WOULD STAY IN SOME RURAL OR SMALL CITY HOTEL AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WOULD HAVE ANY EVEN ENG EVEN ENGLISH INFRA INFRASTRUCTURE FOR EXAMPLE FOR FOR ANY OF THE LOCAL MUSEUMS BUT UH AGAIN THIS COULD BE UH THIS COULD BE FURTHER DOWN DONE AND RESEARCHED UH ON MY SIDE I WOULD SAY THAT UM I'M MORE FOCUSED ON UH EXPLORING MY MY LOCAL SURROUNDINGS UH HERE IN UH BULGARIA I'M NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN GOING FAR AWAY IT'S UH IT'S ON ONE HAND UNCERTAIN DANGEROUS AND ON THE OTHER HAND UH I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO UH SEE SOME THINGS THAT THAT I'VE ALREADY READ ABOUT OR OR KNOW I MEAN IT DOES DOESN'T BRING ME ANY SORT OF EXCITEMENT

B: I THINK THAT UM WE WE UM SHOULD EXPLORE LOCAL SURROUNDINGS SURELY IT'S A GOOD IDEA BUT UM WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE UH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE LOCAL SURROUNDINGS YOU NEED SOME MORE EXCITING OR SOME MORE UNUSUAL AND UH THAT'S WHY UM I UH LIKE TO GO FROM TIME TO TIME TO SOME UM FAR DESTINATION MAYBE I SHOULD CHOOSE MORE UM EASY TO GO DESTINATION I DON'T KNOW UM IF UH THIS DESTINATION THAILAND RIGHT NOW IS UM GOOD IDEA TO GO BECAUSE UM MM ESPECIALLY AFTER THE COVID UH ERA NOW THERE ARE A LOT OF TOURISTS ALMOST EVERYWHERE AND I'VE HEARD THAT UM A LOT OF UM FLIGHTS ARE CANCELED OR GOING TO BE CANCELED AND MAYBE IT WILL BE A PROBLEM TO GO ON UM FAR HOLIDAY BECAUSE UM OF UNC UNCERTAINTY OF TRAVELING AND UH A LOT OF UH PROBLEMS MAYBE I SHOULD RECONSIDER TO GO TO UH SUCH UM UH HOLIDAY NEXT YEAR <LAUGH> WHEN ALMOST THE WE HOPE THE TRAVELING PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED AND UM THE PEOPLE WILL BE NOT SO EAGER TO GO ON HOLIDAY LIKE NOW

A: WELL I MEAN THE THE PROBLEM WITH UH WITH CANCELED FLIGHTS AND UH THE LACES UH HA HAS TO DO WITH UM WITH THE LOW UH WAGES IN THE TRAVEL AND AIRPORT INDUSTRY SO I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR SO UH FOR EXAMPLE AS RIGHT NOW I I THINK LONDON HEATHROW AIRPORT ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WOULD BE L LIMITING THE FLIGHTS PER DAY AT THE AIRPORT TO SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY OR EIGHT HUNDRED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF AND THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF BECAUSE UH THEY CAN'T FIND ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT UH WANT TO WORK IN SUCH CONDITIONS FOR SUCH PAY SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR ON ON THIS REGARDS NOW UH REGARDING CA THE CANCELING ITSELF IF UH YOU GO UH WITH A TRAVEL AGENCY THEY MAKE SURE TO HAVE EVERYTHING LINKED AND ARRANGED SO IF ONE LEG OF THE JOURNEY UM IS CANCELED OR OR OR OR THERE IS ANY PROBLEM WITH IT UH THEY MAKE FOR THE ARRA ARRANGEMENTS OR POSTPONE THE THE TRAVELING OR REFUND YOU I MEAN THAT'S FOR THE MORE ESTABLISHED AND RENOWNED AGENCIES AND THAT'S WITHOUT HASSLE IT USED TO BE A PROBLEM THAT THEY WOULDN'T REFUND BACK IN THE YEARS BUT NOW AFTER COVID THEY THEY REFUND ALMOST AUTOMATICALLY SO I GUESS FOR SUCH UM FAR AWAY DESTINATIONS A A TRAVEL AGENCY IS UH THE RIGHT CHOICE

B: MM OKAY I'M NOT SURE THAT I WILL GO TO UH SUCH HOLIDAY BUT UH MAYBE I'LL RECONSIDER UH MY PLANS AND UH MAYBE I'LL CHOOSE SOME UM OTHER DESTINATION MAYBE UH NEAR HERE IN IN EUROPE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PLACES IN EUROPE THAT UH ARE ALSO INTERESTING AND I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE SO I'M MAYBE I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY UH PLANS AND TO CHOOSE SOME UH MM OTHER DESTINATION WHERE I CAN GO ONLY WITH ONE FLIGHT WITHOUT CHANGING UH FLIGHTS BECAUSE IT WILL BE EASIER AND NO HASSLE AND UH UH MAYBE THE BETTER CHOICE WILL BE TRAVELING WITH A CAR BUT UH I THINK THAT IT IS UH EXHAUSTING TO TRAVEL ON A LONG DISTANCES WITH A CAR BY A CAR

A: WELL IF IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES THEN IT'S FINE FOR EXAMPLE TO NORTHERN GREECE OR TO MACEDONIA OR TO EASTERN SERBIA OR TO UH SOUTHERN ROMANIA AND MAYBE EVEN TURKEY NOW BEYOND THAT UH UH REQUIRES AT LEAST ANOTHER DAY UH FOR UH FOR HAVING A REST FOR TRAVELING AND UH AND WHATNOT SO I MEAN THERE ARE SOME UH DESTINATIONS AROUND HERE THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO UH TO BOSNIA TO KOSOVO TO MONTENEGRO UH TO CROATIA EVEN THEN YOU CAN GET TO CROATIA FOR I THINK FIVE OR SIX HOURS DRIVE SO IT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN GOING TO VARNA UH SO THERE OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO CROSS UH BORDERS AND THERE MIGHT BE DELAYS UH ON THAT FRONT BUT UH OTHERWISE THERE ARE SOME UM MM REASONABLY NOT FAR AWAY PLACES THAT UH YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THAT YOU CAN GO WITH A CAR

B: MAYBE BUT UM UH GOING WITH THE CAR UM REQUIRES MORE PLANNING TO UH SEE WHERE TO TRAVEL AND UH UM HOW TO UM TO BUY SOME UM UH AUTO BAN CARDS OR TAXES IN ADVANCE UH SOME UM IT UH REQUIRES MORE PLANNING AND UH MORE UH INVESTIGATION WORK BEFORE START GOING TO SUCH KIND OF CURRENT DAY

A: WELL OF COURSE THERE ARE UH OBVIOUSLY TRADE OFFS FOR EACH TYPE OF UH JOURNEY NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE PERFECT AND UH OR SWITCH IN THE BEST WAY IF IF YOU GO BY PLANE YOU HAVE SOME UH SOME TYPES OF SETBACKS WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE WHEN UH TRAVELING BY A CAR BUT THEN YOU HAVE OTHER HINDRANCES SO UH I GUESS UH YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE WHICH UH MODE OF TRAVELING UH IS THE MOST IS IS THE MOST OPTIMAL