I've been on both the giving and receiving ends of multiple games in which Austria, Italy, and Russia decided that their games would be much simpler if there wasn't a Turkey around, and it always was. I propose that we start the game off by coordinating a removal of Turkey before moving on to other priorities. Seems well reasoned, coordinated, direct and decisive. Just what I like to see out of a prospective partner for the future when I'm an enthusiastic rather than dangerous player! Sure why not, I'm in - if I hear from Austria that he is as well. That would remove a lot of pressure off my immediate borders and have me looking to a future decorated in Winter and Green. What do you think?

Oh, and hi there! Sounds excellent to me. Italy/Russia is a very strong long-term alliance. So I've heard! I've played exactly one game as Italy since I discovered Diplomacy online (still ongoing) and our Wintergreen is presently well on the way to a three-way draw with France. If mostly because I can't persuade the Tsar that a two-way would be more interesting. So tell me, how do you find Terraforming Mars? I'm a bit of a highkey space fanatic and one of my friends has been on me to try it forever, but I don't find I have a lot of time for gaming. Worth a look? Or something that's fun but not for long? I've played about three dozen games at this point, I think, and every time there's something new or interesting that happens. Heartily recommended. Ohhh I must try it then. I dabble in Kerbal when the mood suits, and I'm definitely into intrasystem expansion so it may be a great way to while away sleepless nights. No news from Austria yet, but it's a global game and a lower chance of NMRs than usual. I'll worry if I haven't heard from him in 12 hours. Some discussion with Turkey, he seems keen for me to attack Austria and for him to expand to Bulgaria and Greece which... is fairly classic play I guess? Yeah, no one is really doing anything out of the ordinary as far as I can tell. Agreed, I was briefly concerned about the risks of an Anglo-German alliance, but nothing coming out of either power suggests that was any more than my paranoia at work. If we don’t hear anything from Austria, should we consider a reverse on your original plan? Russia, Italy, Turkey vs Austria - and then Russia and Italy vs Turkey when the time comes? The West will be so relieved they aren’t looking at a Juggernaut I’ll be over the southern stalemate lines before they can stop us. I'm fine with that. No matter what, I'm planning on you and me eventually crushing someone between us, be it Austria or Turkey. Heh, insomniacs unite. In the spirit of full disclosure (and full diplomatic flexibility) you can generally reach me within 2 hours at most, day or night. I don’t sleep that well - but happily that’s a benefit in the global game! What is it, 2 there? Just about. I'm not good at sleep schedules. And, looking forward to it. Hey there! A little bird whispered in my ear that Turkey thinks he has an agreement with you. Since Austria has finally popped up, which alliance is real? Hello? Opening moves look largely in keeping with your suggestion against Turkey, though Galicia could mean Austria is the focus. What is the plan, alliance partner? I'm sticking with the anti-Turkey plan - the Galicia move was an initial move that I forgot to update. Gotcha, you may want to reassure Austria of that too. I know I’d be alarmed if I was the Archduke looking up to see the Tsar’s Imperial Guard on approach! 

Maybe use Galicia to seize Rumania to prove a point, and allay Turkey’s suspicions with your apparent attack on Austria this season? Exactly what I'm planning to do. Great! Sorry, I'm still new to this so when something neat occurs to me I feel the need to share my brilliant and original realisation XD It's all good! You gonna take a shot at Greece? Do you think I should? I’m strongly considering it, but there’s a little voice that says not to risk the bounce and stick with the build I know I have. Well, I told the Turk I'm supporting him into Rumania, when I'm actually supporting the Austrian into Bulgaria and myself into Rumania. So, if you go to Greece, you get the build, and you cut off the Turkish retreat, so he's stuck at 3 and we're all in place to crunch him down. Okay, that sounds like a reasonable call I guess. Even if I bounce it denies him the retreat option, although if I’m stuck on 3 while you’re all collecting 1-2 builds I worry I’ll spend the game trying to become useful again. You have my word that if you're left build-less, I'll give you priority in getting Austrian dots, you'll have my support in. Alright my friend, I’ll do it. Oh... you lied to me. Why? Oh what the fuck Backstabbr, I swear to you I intended to do what I said, but the updated orders must not have taken. Goddammit. Ugh and now I've got to build an army in StP, because of England I understand completely :3 My second online game (which is still ongoing) is on Backstabbr, and two of the other players could not swear enough about the format. 

I haven't had any problems myself, other than accidentally ordering a fleet to move to an impossible Bulgarian coast and losing a year fighting Turkey (in that game). Both Turkey and Austria are concerned about your movements and are asking me if I trust you. I don’t think they suspect our discussions though, so there’s that! Is a Western Triple what I think it is? England, Germany, and France working together, yes. Bad news for both of us. Mmm. I’m starting to suspect that’s what’s happening yeah. France remains the question mark. But if he’s coming for me, it looks like it’s what I’ve heard Uh oh. It looks like France is committed then, and I find it unlikely he’d leave himself wide open to England and Germany if he didn’t expect them to take his side.

How are things on your side? I'm worried. We might need to recalculate. Welcome back! Haven’t heard from you in a while, what’s up? Alliance against the West? I sent you that message yesterday and forgot to do the thumb-reaction on it, didn't notice 'til the admin just informed me I think we have to, yeah. A blatant triple like this changes things. Well at least the triple looks like it might be falling apart early. Have you been in touch with Austria? He seems to have written me off. Just wanna double-check again in case my message didn't go through. At least the triple looks like it might be falling apart early. Have you been in touch with Austria? He seems to have written me off. Austria and I have been talking, we've been buddying up a little but I'm still mindful that at some point we're going to need to sandwich him to make our <:wintergreen:613143739954888734> fly. I did encourage him to listen to Turkey's advice though, after Turkey made a number of persuasive arguments and I've agreed to help Turkey into Bulgaria this turn. I'm... not actually sure why I did that, on reflection. No, it did come through. I wasn't terribly coherent and "viewed" the message without focusing on it So it wasn't marked for me to read later when I actually woke up. Ah yeah, totally legit! And, yeah, I can't imagine helping Turkey into Bul would benefit you at all.