Greetings, neighbor! Was wondering if you would like to come to some agreement about how to preliminarily divide up the Balkans? Hello there! I think that would be great, how were you thinking of splitting them up? Hmm can I take  Bul & Rum while you take Ser & Gre? I'd prefer Ser and Rum out of those four I know that would be your preference, but Russia has offered to support me into Rum anyway, so I figured there'd be less hard feelings if we could just agree to this split and both potentially get two builds? Or, if Russia has made conflicting promises to you, then I hope you'd let me know, and then a) I'd appreciate the intel, and b) we could split things your way? Got some bad news for you then, Russia also told me the same stuff. Think he might playing both sides to see what he can get. I think it's unwise to be dishonest early in the game. Just makes everyone trust you less.  Would you be willing to pool intelligence, and maybe see to it that neither of us gets bamboozled? specifically, what has Russia offered you? ...sorry if I pry too much. I'd still like to work together, if you're interested? Shall I take your silence as a 'no'? Listen, I don't know what Russia has promised you but they have been reneging on promises left and right. Ask England. Ask Italy. Ask Germany. I can understand if you don't want to trust *anyone*, including me, but as a friendly word of advice don't leave yourself vulnerable to Russia because they appear by all accounts to be a ruthless opportunist. Yeah I've noticed. I'm not keep my units on hold until I know what's going. You dont have to worry about me making aggressions just yet. I appreciate that. I'm not planning any aggressions toward you this season either. ...And I suppose it'd be asking too much to encourage you to take Rum or to aid me in doing so? I'd really prefer not antagonizing anyone just yet. Being the middle I feel like any move I make can get me in a sticky situation I understand the feeling. The fact that you kept your word just now goes a long way with me. Let me know if your mind changes about antagonizing, or if there's anything I can do to help you out! (Sending to Italy and Austria)

France, germany, and England’s behavior combined with some things England has said to me smell of a triple alliance between those three. Do you agree or have any additional evidence?
If so, I want to make sure southeast europe is prepared to push back against such a threat I would agree. Though I think they probably dont like russia I can agree there. I just wanted to plant a seed in case this might have to turn into a battle of those three versus us three want to make moves on russia? I would! I'd greatly appreciate support into Rum if you're willing? In return I'll offer you Bulgaria as a *loan* got my support Glad to hear it 🙂 supporting from ser Okay I was gonna ask whether you wanted to move Ser-Bul but I can understand if you don't trust Italy I'm fine moving in after we take rum. I trust italy pretty well. Actually, could I offer you Rum instead of Bul? I can support you in this turn and if you think Vienna's safe you can also support from Bud. That's fine for me. I imagine that Russia knows what's going to happen and will probably try to take Vie so I'd like to make a move to protect it. So you're going to bounce Tyr and Bud? I'm asking because I was wondering whether you'd be able to support Italy into Piedmont (I'm still trying to make a triple alliance between us three happen). To clarify, you want me to move into Bul with your support then we switch who controls either next phase? I'm moving my fleet into Tri to assist. I'm willing to put myself in a dangerous spot for a bit if we can make serious moves on russia. If russia moves in then it should expose their west side to you. Well, so depending on if I can get Italy to support me into Bul, I'd have you move to Rum this turn. 

What do you mean 'moves in'? If russia moves their gal army into Vie Okay yes. I agree that wouldn't be a big problem for you because it leaves Russia vulnerable to me and because you could pretty easily just take vienna back (provided Munich isn't an issue...) Italy confirmed that they'd support me into Bul, so I'll support Ser into Rum this turn unless I hear otherwise? Yeah. Currently in a non-aggression with Germany, assuming that holds I think we can make a good push against Russia. I'm on my phone doing this so I have to constantly tab back and forth between discord and backstabber that's why this is a bit confusing. Support into rum is greatly appreciated. ah yeah that's a pain. And happy to do it! And I hope you and Italy can coordinate as well, although I know that means more tabbing for you... I'm surviving. I think we're coordinated as best as we can for now. So if you're not doing a bounce in Vienna, would Bud be free to poke Gal? Yes, I suppose I could do that Worst case for you would still be that Gal moves to Vienna. I was suggesting it incase Russia decides to use Gal and Ukr to support Bul into Rum. But if you think that's unlikely then it's probably not worth the risk May be better to just have Bud support Ser-Rum for some extra security Rum is guaranteed for you this year--which will set us up nicely to start surrounding Warsaw/Moscow Are you still with me to invade Russia? I could use your support for Sev-Ukr. yeah Great! And I assume you’ll also push into Galicia? yeah Are you hearing anything from Germany? Broadly speaking, if you arrange with Germany to support them into Warsaw, I'll help you take Warsaw for yourself once I'm able to do so, if you want me to. just sort of normal truce then deal with england after russia is gone So what do you think is the best course of action for us this season? Well Russia is going to lose either Stp or Mos so you can try to move into Mos hoping they move back. Or one of can support the other into Ukr. Im trying to get Germany to support me into War and told them I would help them take Stp once russia was gone and england was the threat Thanks for the info! I think trying for Ukraine again makes more sense, if you’re willing to support me in. that works for me. I'll support with Rum. Would you like support into Ukraine, the better to take Warsaw? I'd still like to collaborate with you, and I'd like to help you however I can (provided, of course, you're okay with me having Moscow). Alright, I'm getting the vibe that you *don't* want to try and work things out with me? I know that I attacked you just a season ago, but Germany has betrayed me after I helped them. Being in the middle I see this as me being about to get caught up in a whole mess, and I'd really like to go after the person who made moves into my home territory. If you want to attack Mos next spring I'll support you from the Ukr. The two of us are not enough to hold it against Germany/England, so your offer--unlike your betrayal of me--is empty. in my defense, the plan to take you out was only delayed not stopped. not exactly a betrayal Look, I'm sorry I snapped. If you'd be willing to back off me and return Bul, I'd be happy to help you against Germany or at the very least not antagonize you while you fight them You can have Ukr back to start. I need to reposition before I can just hand off Bul. Hope you understand. Okay, I’ll take Ukraine this turn then. Thank you! Is Italy helping you retake Vienna? either than or giving me an extra serving of betrayal ah that's always the question isn't it. I'm wondering if I'm under any threat from the two of you in Constantinople...last I spoke with Italy, Italy's units had come over here on the promise of you two destroying me. It kiiinda looks like that's still the case. Well Italy has told me that as well, but then again Germany also told me we had a non-aggression and here we are. I believe this turn we'll see if Italy is going for you or me. I'm taking back Vienna from Germany and thats my plan for now. I really wish I could believe that was *all* you were planning Until i have stability that's all I'm doing Looks like I got betrayed big time. I'm thinking of going after Italy primarily because they were my first ally and their betrayal hurts the most. Once I'm back at my comp I'll have a better idea of how I'm proceeding. if you decide to not work with Italy, I can push them back then you can freely take my territory. Self preservation is out the door, I just don't want Italy or Germany to gain anything from their betrayal. I think it's a little premature for you to entirely throw out self preservation. I'll think it over. The walls are closing in. I'm not going out without payback. any thoughts on the matter? whatever im proceeding as if you're with m disbanding Gal, i'll support you full into Bul the from there on out we can push Italy out of my territory until my inevitable demise. Hey sorry for the delay in getting back to you—Italy has promised me Bul but I appreciate your support in case they are lying well they betrayed me so your betrayal is just around the corner. I want to see the streets run red with their Ragu and break their spaghetti bones. I think that seems likely. 
And revenge sure brings out your poetic side! 
...you know that’s kind of how I felt about you when you stabbed me after working with me for several turns. Once again, never stabbed you. We never had an agreement for anything other than non-aggression until Russia was dealt with. Well you aggressed and Russia was not dealt with Believe me or not, but I held out on attacking you as long as a I could and i think that's why italy turned on me. I aggressed to keep Italy off of me for all the good it did. Any chance you think germany would turn to your cause? They have more manpower to take down italy than I do I'm asking them if they want to help. Germany said they're in, but sounds reluctant to attack directly. So I'm not sure if they're actually committed to anything or if its just another ruse. What's the word bird? Sorry for the delay—tell me how I can help. Is there any chance you’d willingly let me into rum this season? Think of it as you helping yourself really. If you support my push from Rum into Bul you can just move in and take Rum in the same turn, then we can do the same maneuver next season to greece hopefully. Not sure how you feel about Germany, but I think they're still working with Italy. I asked them for some help and they gave excuses so I'm expecting them to move from the North on me this sesason. If they don't it will be a pleasant surprise. Just a heads up for what's coming though. For clarification. You support Rum into Bul, and move either Ukr or Sev into Rum. Next season you support Bul into Gre and move something else into Bul. You get Italy out of your hair and stick it back to them. If Germany actually helps then I continue to push and you follow my units, if they don't then I hold off and you take my territory. Noble last stand and all that noise. Okay thanks for clarifying. I just placed the order I support you from Rum into Bud and you support from Bul into Gre? Then you move into next round to prevent Italy from gaining units? Also open to suggestions, just realized that right now there isn't a lot that stops Italy from getting production. I don’t have a unit that can reach greece to support you there? Just noticed that as well. I think you should try for serbia into tripoli because italy confirmed that they’re attacking serbia with albania Okay, then do you want to support Bul into Ser and you can move Con into Bul if you choose? I’m a little hesitant to piss off italy, to be honest. They were pretty upset about last season and I only just barely smoothed it over Well, you can either piss them off and have them attack you or you can be nice and have them attack you. Only one of them ends with you gaining something out of it. That’s...a very good point "I'm obviously fairly heavily committed to my attack on you at the moment, but I do consider Turkey's shenanigans around Bulgaria a breach so before I forgive and forget I thought I'd offer you a chance to negotiate." Yeah seems like it was really smoothed over. Ah, okay.
...So what did you say to Italy? "at least when my people die they'll die knowing they honored their alliance. Have fun under the boots of england." That’s pretty good.
Alright, i’m moving into bul and I’ll support you into ser Word, I'll put the moves in. I think I'm going to disband at Vie, I can use my other two units to support you into Ser or support with one at Gre and one at Bud. I think it'd help me more if you dissolve Albania, and hit Ser and Bud to cut support so that Italy can't take Rum or Bul. 

I really will support you into Bud this spring if you want; I'm sorry I didn't follow through on support for you last night but at like 11:30 when I finalized my orders I ultimately decided I'd need another fleet (and therefore a guaranteed build in Bul) to protect from Italy. Word, I'm boarding a flight now so I wont be able to place orders until later. Not really sure that support would stop me from dying anyway so I'm pretty indifferent as long as Italy loses. I know it's late notice, but could you poke greece to cut support of Bul? Sorry for not responding or doing anything. I was in a place I thought I would have service, but did not for 5 days. Good luck defeating the tyrants. ah I fell on my own sword last season anyway--misclicked when placing my orders 😂 Good game, Austria! Happy trails You too