Hello there my dear Kaiser! Nice to meet you 😄 Hello, hello. What are your thoughts on an F/G alliance? Hello hello! I for one would not oppose one, what are your thoughts? Well, Russia has seemed to be stirring up all kinds of trouble, but he has offered me help against England, so that's a point in favor of an F/G. I would like to at least DMZ Bur in 01 That’s funny, Austria just asked for me to bounce you there so Mun can protect against a potential Tyr invasion Idk why Austria thinks Tyr is going to be invaded this year Guess he’s just nervous like he said Well if you really want to we can bounce The truth is, I’m supporting Par into Bur so I can make a play at Bel/Pic in the Fall. Since You’ll see I’m telling the truth after Spring, I’ll also say within the same message that I have no intentions of moving into Mun, whether Italy is there or not. There’s no point pissing you off and taking Mun when I can’t even defend it for more than a year, and I value honesty above centers. This might be a rough start to our alliance but I don’t want any fuckery around Burgundy so I’m taking it for myself, and I hope we can work together well afterwards. Well that obviously makes it difficult for us to work together this year. What is your plan in the fall? As I've said before, typically use it control Belgium and make sure that England isn't able to convoy an army onto our lands. Alright, so you actually went to Burgundy. I dont really trust you to stay out of Munich so far, so I'll be covering Munich and you can have Belgium. What are your thoughts on a delayed FG attack on England? I'm aware I might have pissed you off a little, and I'd like to change the course of that. I could still move ENG and Bel this season, and we'd have the jump. Moving to EC would certainly tip me towards working with you more. I hope you understand that I still can't commit this turn though. Fair enough, I still apologize for Bur. I tried to be as honest and clear as I could, and I hope you see that I'm now dedicated towards a potential alliance between us I mean, being honest is great, but I need to see honesty and moves that are mutually beneficial. What you did was honest, but not mutually beneficial. EC would be mutually beneficial, now we will see if you are honest. As much as I would like to go EC I can't without a full commitment. So I guess we can see how Fall/builds play out and go from there, but just know that the option is there 🙂 You could bounce me if you want in Bel, if that would make you feel better/safer. As I've said before, my main priority is making sure England doesn't get an army onto our lands. You keep saying you want to work with me, but then you say you cant move in a way where we work together. How am I supposed to commit to that? "I hope you understand that I still can't commit this turn though." I don't expect you to commit to anything this season which is fair for both you and me Also England's told me that he'll leak stuff to you. I'm telling you this as a sign of trust hopefully, but if you still don't believe me after all this then idk :/ Fair, although you have made anti-German moves while I have made fairly neutral moves. I made one move that protects Burgundy and makes sure that BOTH Par/Mar are safe. I apologize if it seemed super anti-German, and I've said countless times that I don't intend for it to be an anti-German opening. England really wants me to move Ruh, take that as you will and believe me if you want. You don't have to intend to be anti German to make moves that are anti German. You being in Burgundy and not in EC is certainly anti German, there is no arguing that. Look, we could talk in circles here, but all I'm saying is that I need to see some moves that are not anti-German before I work with you. Fair enough, let's circle back next season 🙂 Okay, I'm in. England obviously doesnt want to work with me. I told you I wasn't going for Mun! Yes, I know. England tricked me, which means I'm trust you more than him now. I'm building a fleet. I hope that is enough to gain your trust I appreciate that a lot, perhaps we can start our cooperation up North Glad we’ve come so far since Spring 01 😄 So it sounds like England thinks he is working with you. You have a choice to make. Support me into Hol or support England in. What are you going to do? I won't contest you going into Holland I guess you could support neither. That would be an interesting move. Haha That would certainly be interesting If I support you into Hol how do you think you'll move your fleets? Well I'm waiting to hear back from Russia, but I'd like to work with Russia to get England out of Scandinavia. Denmark will likely stay. Berlin is going to Kiel (if I get support). From there I go to Heligoland Bight and put pressure on North Sea (hopefully with Russia and your help). If I dont get your support or Russias cooperation I'm basically stuck If you do those moves then I suppose I'm in Let me know if Russia gets back to you Will do Thank you! England is really gunning for me. Not sure why he opened himself up to you and Russia so much just to come after me Okay, so I'm gonna have to support Denmark and Holland against England this turn probably unless you think I could use my troops more wisely? Oh boy. I didn't even see the juggernaut until just now. Lol... England just said he's going to Denmark and then stop attacking me. Ahh apologies, haven't been able to check for a while Yes the Jugg is quite scary and Austria seems quite inept unfortunately Haha I hope you flagged the "stop attacking me" message from England as a lie 😁 Supporting Ruh-Mun and have Bel S Hol in Sorry I've been busy. I'm going Ruh-Mun and so I should be good to not lose SCs this phase as long as you support me. Russia is gonna roll this game I think Agreed, seems like FGIA vs Jugg and England Hopefully England will relieve some pressure off you since I'm attacking him Well I think Russia turned on Turkey to fight Austria now I mean Italy has an army in Syr, don't see why Russia would open another front and fight Turkey Regardless let's just grind this out and hopefully we come out on top 😂 Italy thought he was working with Russia too from what I've heard 😂 Good luck against England. Let's hope I can out guess Russia England said he would help me against Russia if you backed off. Not sure I trust him though I wouldn't either, wouldn't hurt to at least lie about it and see what he says? Regardless I hope you trust that I'm with you in the long run 🙂 Yeah, think you can sell him on the lie? Me? He contacted you but I would probably be able to Like I told England I would talk to you. If I go to him and said you agreed, he is less likely to  believe it than if we both talked him through it I suppose we should have a reason you are willing to back off of him so it's more reasonable Okay, England and I have been talking quite a bit and I think he might come around. If you could just talk to him before deadline and stress that he needs to attack Russia that might get him to do what we want. England is moving North Sea to London btw How ya doin? Good. Just trying to figure out what Austria is doing Good progress on the western front, now time to swing East 😁 perhaps you can use BAL to get armies into Pru/Lvn, while I’ll send all my fleets south like I have right now and try to stop this Italy/Austria alliance Yup. Gonna head east/south now. Gotta eliminate Russia next Some help against Austria would also be appreciated! That fleet you built is slightly concerning. I'd like it to go to MAO this phase and I'd like to bounce North Sea just for good measure. Sounds good to me Ideally it would be in Mar but I need to deal with Pie for the time being Would you be fine bouncing NWG and NTH this season? Would be nice if you could somehow slide into Boh, I'd be willing to give you Venice later after I take Rom/Nap Done and done Apologies for the move to MAO I thought there was a possibility you would force yourself into NTH. Happy to see your progress East though, let me know what I can do to help 😄 With a force draw in 1910, there's no reason for either of us to stab. Otherwise I probably would have. Move MAO back south and continue bouncing please I won't stab I just wanted to protect Bel/NTH for 1910 in case you decided to catch up with me to stab me. I'll support hold my units along our border, and would be willing to support you into Tri perhaps if I get into Ven this Spring Was a fun game though, ggs and thanks for being a great ally 😄 Yeah, working together worked out much better for us than backstabbing worked for any of the others Friendship always prevails!