Hey Austria! How are things in the east? Things are good down here, we should watch each others backs being from the same stock and all. We have to be careful being in the middle of someone else's conflict. Yes yes, i agree I think any conflict between us will only result in one of us losing followed quickly by the other losing.  So should we have some sort of non-aggression pact? Yes, that would be bad for both of us how are you feeling about Italy? Seems to be working with me on getting some Intel. I'm curious about your feelings on russia? Have you heard anything from Turkey? It seems like russia is aiming for him Yeah it would seem that way, but Turkey told me that Russia was not conspiring against him. interested in taking out russia? Always Do you have any plans for the fall? I am up for continuing our non-aggression pact this season. Hopefully we can work together to take out Russia in central europe Not yet, talking to people to see if they may want to make moves on russia. Are you cool with me moving into Boh? I'm still agreeable to a non-aggression pact, just would like to be more useful against russia Sure that sounds reasonable moving to Tyr to help italy, would appreciate you not taking my open vienna Yep, can do that. Have you talked to france about Tyr? Not sure his exact plans but you two should be able to take on Italy if you coordinate I'm trying to help italy, at least until russia is gone. I figure we have to take out one of the countries on the outside before worrying about other countries in the central Ok sounds good are you working with france to take out england, or just in a non-aggression against them? Non aggression cool cool cool Can you tell what’s going on with turkey? they're suspicious of an alliance between you england and france, which seems at least part true. If they're ready I'm going to try to push into russia with them. Italy is watching my back, and I have a non-aggression with you so I'm going to leave myself pretty vulnerable. Ok, my main focus right now is Russia too. If you, me, and turkey can coordinate against Russia we should be able to get him off our backs quickly I'm going to suggest me supporting turkey into Rum and the my moving my army in Bud to Gal to pressure War. Sounds good to me Want to move your army into Boh to help me in case russia gets feisty? Trying to make moves to take them out. What are your plans with your army in Tyr? Helping Italy with Piedmont. You're probably fine leaving your army where it is actually. Would you help me if Russia tries to move into my territory though? Ok cool. Yeah, if we are able to ward off Russia successfully, we can figure out a plan to split his supply centers fairly between us are you moving against england? Trying to cool, I moved my unit into Vie so I can't build one this winter. Im hoping to push at Russia either Gal or War. Just wanted to let you know when I start moving. After Russia is taken out are you planning on going after England? And if so do you want to let me take war and Ill help you take Stp and make moves into Swe The problem is that after Russia is out, all of us in the west will have to start worrying about turkey Have you been able to make any plans with turkey against Russia? Going to support their push into Ukr if you support me into War Ill help you take Stp and can help later deal with england. Would you be open to supporting me into War and then I'll support you into moscow/down into turkey? I could be. What are your plans with England once Russia is gone? It seems it would be more beneficial to have Stp and take over scandanavia. But obviously we would both want War given its location to us. Just wanted to know what you see your self doing in the next couple turns. I’m trying to work with England as long as possible...I’m hesitant to make  promises or plans based on StP because I’m using it at a bargaining chip for the long game I’m hoping to get France or Italy out next And use England to do so Are you still focused east or do you plan on moving into Italy? So be it, I'll support you into War.  I'd prefer getting rid of France since Italy has worked really well with me. I'd suggest knocking out France then going after England. Well Italy is watching my back against Turkey so I don't really want to fight them. so more focused on the East. Ok thanks! I owe you That makes sense. Yeah Italy has been helpful against France so far, hopefully us in the middle can keep working well together I think in the end its either going to be all three of us central countries left. Or whichever betrays the other two survives the longest before being taken out. Agree If think you can handle England on the west you could probably book from Bal into Sweden and then they're cut off from the East. It would make it easier to clean up the eastern stragglers after. Yes that’s very tempting. I’m still waiting to hear back from England before making any aggressive moves. At this point I need France to be weaker before having England completely after me, I don’t think I could manage both of them haha forgot you still have some border with england Yes, unfortunately Thank you for following through with support! Russia is basically done. I think we need to start being concerned with Turkey and try to prevent him from creeping into russia's supply centers Of course I agree, but i think we need to worry about England as well. I think the easiest way to split it would be for me to take Mos and you Stp. Italy and I surround Turkey and then you contain England until France is gone then England is the focus. i can move Gal into Ukr and Bud into Gal to gather forces to oppose Turkey. What does England think about you taking Swe? Was that planned or are you taking them on now? Yes Swe was planned okay I have gotten england to agree to stop traveling south of StP in Russia. Who knows how long that will actually last, but I think it's safe to assume he won't be interfering in russia too much for another season or two Basically it seems like England is waiting for you and Italy to put a decent dent into Turkey before making any huge moves east, so you/we have time to nibble out turkey and build up in the meantime Well if we start making moves on Turkey would you be comfortable moving your army up to take Stp? It would certainly be a whole lot less stress having England not trying to mess with the East. It seems like Russia is going to support either England or Turkey into Moscow this season to leave the game with whoever his preference is at that supply center (just won't be me haha).  Would you feel ok moving an army to Uk r to support me into Moscow? Then I can support you into Sev or let you have Warsaw. And between Moscow and an army I'm moving up north this season, I can keep England at bay Yes I can work with that (sorry if it seems like some messages sent out of order, i realized I'd forgotten some bot thumbs) Just finally talked to Turkey haha. I think they are moving into Ukr this turn so maybe you should at least block them from moving inland that way Can you support me into Moscow like we talked about before? Then I can keep England out of our hair/finish off Russia You've got my support into Moscow Awesome, thank you! That's funny you didn't happen to mention your aggression into Vie in your previous messages I’m very sorry, I didn’t want to 😦 

England has been threatening me and it was the only option I had to stay even with him without inciting his wrath england just asked me if Vie was staged. So either you're lying or they're trying to foment anger He is very good at mind games. I know there’s no way to prove it, but I’m not lying/haven’t lied to you thats all well and good, but how does it stop your aggression towards me? I need some sort of recompense or I won't be able to trust you. I understand. What do you propose? you leaving my territory Turkey is upset with my betrayal so now I have everyone to contend with have you been conspiring with italy against me, because they're moving all their units west. No, I haven't been conspiring with Italy. My understanding was that Italy was prepared to support you into Turkey If you really do want to have this central alliance, then I think it should be fair for me to have my territory back. You dont have to just give it back, I can have my units take it  back in force so it looks like we are fighting. Although I do think you should start to deal with England considering how large they  are becoming. The problem now is that if you use units to regain Vie, you'll just create an aisle for Turkey to waltz into central Europe. Do you have any plans in place to stop him? Seems like you two had some sort of non-aggression agreement last season Well I was exactly thrilled with the possibility of a western threat so I let them take Ukr to keep them from being too aggressive. Wasn't* also England is about to move up to 8 units, if you move up right after Russia's last army disbands then you can easily take Swe and Stp. Then Italy and I will be able to deal with turkey. Ah makes sense. Yeah England is growing quickly. I’m trying to figure out the best way to settle things with France and England on my western border first, and then figure out the best way forward from there. I think England and Turkey will be tied up with each other to our East for a season or two which buys us some time So are you fine with me attacking Vie to keep up appearances? I mean no, not happy about it haha. But seems like my only option at the moment I wasn't happy about you taking it to begin with, but at least I'm telling you now., Haha fair enough you both betrayed me first, but don't think you'll last much longer when all is said and done. Betrayer Queen, would you like to assist me with hurting Italy in exchange for my territory? They betrayed me harder so I want them to suffer the most. Yes I’m open to us discussing an agreement. What do you propose? I lose, but Italy loses territory in the process I want to see the streets run red with their Ragu Their color is green, so it would actually be Pesto I want to see the streets run with a liquid they're known for are you in? Yes not that it will change my current state of survival, but you're not going to betray me as well right? I mean again I don’t want to be too outright in an attack against Italy because I will likely need their support in France soon, and I need to keep developing a good relationship with Turkey before Italy retaliates against me But yes. I’m in Did you have any specific ideas for this season? I think I’ll need Boh to support Munich, and I’m concerned about losing War destruction of the traitor Italy? I promise you that if you move Boh to Tyr I can follow up next season with a push into Ven. I can’t move Boh this season bc I need it to defend Munich against France Move Boh to Tyr, I'm going to try to take Tri, then I can support you into Italy. My back is completely open so you don't have to worry about me stabbing you. Also pretty sure turkey is chumped out and is going to let Italy try to roll over me, which is obviously super cool for me. Just a heads up for when I'm gone. Like I said, I can’t move Boh this season because I can’t afford to leave Munich undefended (and I need to move Kie back into holland). Going to try to move my northern units south I guess okay, will you at least lie for me and say something about how I'm going for Tyr or something so that I can try to push back on Italy a bit? Sure thing What are you planning on doing with your Vie unit this season? Move for Tri. I'd like for you to move into Tyr so we can push into Italy then you can take Vie after. Or possibly take back Bud. If you could find it in your heart to not stab me again for a season or two. Problem is that if I don’t get another build this winter idk if I can keep pace with Italy next year 😦 Well, if things go accordingly then Italy should be losing two builds this season. Any reason why you're not just taking Nwy? England and I are balanced and staying out of each other’s way. He’s respected my home territories thus far bc I haven’t gone after him. Norway will be an easy grab for me when the time comes, no need to rock that boat quite yet Well I guess we've seen that strategy certainly works. Don’t want him convincing France to take me on I'm going to try to convince France to move against Italy. You should to. What's your plan this round? Mostly defense, trying to move farther into Central Europe So towards me? Gal. It’ll give me more options for next round (maybe take Bud back from Italy? Or Rum) Okay that was just a very vague statement. Had me a bit confused. Maybe move Boh-> Tyr then I can either support you into Tri or vice versa? Then you can move down after italy is out? Also you should really convince France to help out against Italy while they can still take advantage of it. Otherwise Italy is going to walk into France and get a bunch more production. I can’t move into Tyr this season, I need that unit to support Mun Didn't France just attack England right there? Yeah but France was working with England just one season before and he won’t talk to me From the looks of last season it would seem they had a Italy betrayal moment. Who knows This game is rife with backstabbring, if only we could have all been friends. "I'm obviously fairly heavily committed to my attack on you at the moment, but I do consider Turkey's shenanigans around Bulgaria a breach so before I forgive and forget I thought I'd offer you a chance to negotiate. " Are you going to? Backstabbr you? No, I've told you, Italy, and Turkey my objective. The complete destruction of Italy. At least Italy is warned haha I'm more a Frontstabbr type of person. You should buy up that domain name You should really start attacking Italy. You're just going to get surrounded if you don't start doing something now. Not trying to tell you how to play, but if you dont move into Boh soon you're going to lose the opportunity and Italy is going to take control. Would you mind supporting me into Bud this next season so I can  make another unit to push at Italy?