Hey England! Looking forward to this game. How are you this afternoon? Hello there. I’m doing well although it’s the evening here on the east coast. Wondering where you stand with France and Russia. Will you bounce Sweden? Has France spoken to you about Belgium? East coast for me too 😴 France reached out to me but I haven’t responded Still determining my plans! I haven’t locked in any moves yet. Where do you stand with France? We agreed to bounce the channel but they weren’t much more communicative than that France asked me to bounce bur but I haven’t agreed to it yet. That’s all we’ve communicated A lot of players are not very responsive Where are you based on the East Coast? I work in DC but I’m from Philly originally I’m in Boston but I live in SF. Originally from Boston. My work takes me here for about 1 week a month. You’re so lucky that your job lets you go home. I try to get back to philly once every 6 weeks or so, but I have to use my weekends for it. I’m actually going to be in Palo Alto in August! I’ve never been in those parts before Hey England! So we have a good deal to chat about. Are you planning to go into Hol? Nwy? Definitely gonna be taking Norway. Haven’t decided if fleet or army yet though. Are you going to bounce Russia? I’m gonna grab Belgium. Are you taking Ruhr or Burgundy? Ruhr and Hol probably But I’m not 100% sure I might move Mun to Ber to protect from Russia Hey there. What do you think about pushing further into France with me and Italy? Hey! I’m open to it. What are your thoughts on Sweden? Russia is asking me to support him into Sweden. I’d prefer if you just continue to bounce him out. So I can grab St. Pete. Then you can have Sweden. Sound like a plan? Hello Hi, there Was that a friendly hello before the stab? Did you have something you wanted to discuss? Yeah I mean I hadn’t really heard from you so wanted to reach out. I would like to work something out with you. We both have a common rival in France at the moment. The last message before your hello was me asking you to help me against Russia. I hadn’t really heard from you. Not the other way around. Did you not receive that message? We should talk to the admins if so Would you be willing to support me into Paris? Yes and I responded. Did you get my response? I did not Hmm. Maybe it was when things were glitchy? I’ll message the admin. Well what did you say? I would screen shot but I feel like that’s against the rules of the study “He’s asking for my support too. I’m not committal. I’m open to it because  he didn’t screw me in Ber last year.” That’s why I stayed out of it Ok, let’s turn this partnership around. Russia is a goner.  Austria is the next biggest threat once we deal with France. Can I count on your support into Paris? No I have the unit committed to supporting Italy Ah, ok. I’d like to avoid losing a dot if possible. Looking unlikely I guess. Well, that’s not true. Maybe if I manage to hold Norway. You should grab Sweden. Just making sure you got my messages. Yes sorry I’m taking to Italy about how we split up France. Any suggestions? See I don’t know what I can realistically get out of that scenario. Well you already have Belgium and Holland. Paris is all yours.  Italy can have marseille and Spain and I can take Brest and Portugal. What do you think of that? Then we all head east to face Austria and turkey. That is if Austria doesn’t stab Italy first And you don’t stab me You heading east goes right through me tho. No, I plan on going through Russia. I want to land in Scandinavia and move from there. I need an ally near me. Russia is obviously out. The only other option at this stage is France or you. France has been very uncommunicative so I’d like it to be you. I feel the same way. I have one additional term. I need control of the North Sea. If I have the North Sea, I can move my units  in Denmark Holland and Belgium away to focus on supporting other offences. I can’t risk being knifed in the back and cannot keep three units defending against the North Sea to feel safe. I’ve heard that Austria is one of the top ranked players in the world. Did you know this? I didn’t know that. I can’t leave the North Sea open for two reasons. The first is the same concern as yours. The second is I’ll need it to convoy troops. Could you convoy through the channel? You would have my support. and I don’t mean open, I mean mine. I guess I could convoy via Norwegian Sea but I still have the same concerns that you do except they’re my home centers! 1. I don’t blame you for a second You are also in a very strong position with 2 fleets in the north. 2. I’m attracted to this alliance because I do not want Austria to win. It would be so lame if we all lose to the top guy. It can work but we just need to keep each other in check. Yeah. If one of us gets too weak it becomes tempting. England- Germany alliance are very difficult. Austria is going to get two builds. It’s unlikely peace can hold in the east. With you in the North Sea, I feel like I can’t leave Denmark or Holland undefended. But I understand with me there you will feel the same about Edinburough and London. Do you know if Italy is going to try and take Smyrna? I don’t. You’re correct. While it would be nice to be able to move those units east. Let’s try and make it work with you staying there. I’m not on board with that. I can just have two units sitting around doing nothing just to be your pal, no offense. So we let Austria roll? Because it will be a grind between us while Austria gains momentum Yeah but sometimes you have to take those kinds of risks. What about a demilitarised North Sea. We agree to leave it open. I’m way more amenable to that That way, I think we both get what we want. Which is basically trust but verify. But starting next season? I need to convoy into Norway this season. Will you be taking Sweden? Kinda depends on what we finalise here I mean I can. Russia knows he’s done, that would just be a final nail in the coffin. Ok, I’ll be convoying into Norway this season. Next season I move into Norwegian Sea or channel depending on frances moves. Do you think Italy can be pealed away from Austria? That’s gonna be a question we’ll have to face later. I have no idea now. All Italy cares about is France right now. No clue what his future plans hold. Makes sense. He’s a good player. How long do you see these terms holding out? Does Paris still go to me? This strategy leaves me little room to build outside of heading east, which is my concern. Yes you still get Paris I’m not really sure. I hope we can can see this to the end. Ok For the record I talked to Austria And he was trying to talk me into attacking you Taking the North Sea right now Basically just knifing you while I “have the upper hand” He’s talking to me to about going after you No shit What’s he saying? Lol So that’s why I feel like we need to make this deal. But perhaps we can be even more clever. He’s saying that I need to work with France to make sure you don’t get too strong How can we be more clever? Basically we have to agree on a strong alliance first Before we can start playing 4d chess Italy is a nice guy, but as far as I see he is going to be an Austria puppet. You know I’m all in on it I agree Hell yeah I think a simple move is to string Austria along as long as possible, without raising suspicions of an Anglo-German alliance. This way we can get as much intel we can I think I can say I took sweden instead of the North Sea because I wanted another build, maybe he’ll think I’m a noob, I don’t know any better, and will only be moderately suspicious But how do I know you’re actually in and not just playing me? Hello? I’m already nervous you’re like reporting all this to Austria haha Sorry I’m FaceTiming with my gf and she gets kissed when I click over to discord We are 100% on HAHAHAH dude I’m about to ft my gf too. So you understand Okay. I’m going to trust you. A ~radical~ thing to do in this game. Of course bro. Let’s take down Austria. I’m gonna tell Italy that we are iffy and have some trouble in case he’s reporting to Austria Basically just to be clear, I see this as a long term alliance to stop Austria. From my POV, it’s not about me or you winning ourselves but about having someone other than this top ranked player beat all of us. Hell yeah. 100% Also honestly this will be more fun if you’re working together like total hand in glove with someone Plus think about the diplomatic advantage of us being able to triangulate intel Good looks with Italy Hey man what’s going on with your supporting order into bur. Complete oversight. I had my orders like that before we came to our agreement. Between talking to you and Italy and Austria AND my gf last night I forgot to change them up. My bad. That’s why there was a useless support of North Sea as well I should have moved London to the channel Okay no worries at all. I’ll take your word for it totally, but it kinda put me on alert that’s all. And yeah like 45 minutes before the turn ended I still had my dudes invading Norway lol so no sweat. Basically no harm done, but like if you do fuck me, instead of my mission being kill Austria it’s gonna change to you lol Def don’t wasn’t that tho *want Absolutely. I’m still team kill Austria (and maybe Italy) I’d love to peak Italy away from Austria but there’s only so much we can do *peal I’m gonna be super busy tomorrow so down to tan through some moves now. I would love to pick up Warsaw and Paris this turn, so I can have the strength to blitzkrieg into Austria Gonna need your help with nonaggression in the North Sea. Can you move your fleet to the Norwegian Sea next turn? There’s definitely going to be a target on my back Any interest in supporting me into Paris I’m about to take off for a flight and probably won’t land before adjudication. I’ll support you into laris and move from the North Sea but I need builds. Clutch thanks! I can help where needed Actually I can’t support I need that to move on Brest But I will move from North Sea I’ll support you in next season Taking off. God speed. Hmm. Maybe don’t move North Sea. Might spoke Austria and Italy This is gonna be awesome Oh shit Do you think France will retreat to the North Sea if you take the channel??? That could fuck up everything Additionally, IF and only IF you feel comfortable with it, I’m happy to move my fleet into position to help you with the battle of the channel and to try to rout France from slipping into the Irish Sea or worse the Norwegian Sea. Russia is going to lose that fleet next turn I’m assuming so I literally won’t have anything to do with my two fleets. If prefer to use them to help you in the west and to potentially convoy your units as needed. I would also talk to Turkey about what is going to happen in Moscow. Damn I wish we could call people rather than text but hey whatever It’s going to be hard to pull Italy away from Austria. We have to really strategize how we pull the ultimate stab. We should gently work on loosening Italy from Austria, but be prepared in case that doesn’t happen. Also no worries at all if not, but if you could support me into Paris that would be dope. No worries if you can’t at all! Let me know if you’re cool with me temporarily putting my fleet in ska in the North Sea to block off France. France retreating their will screw things up big time. I have it set to move there right now, but I’ll call it off immediately if you tell me to. Yeah, I’m pretty uncomfortable with you in the North Sea. Let me think for a sec We can bounce North Sea. I’m game. That serves the same end It means I don’t force channel though Right that was my thought too. I guess it just has to be that way. Can you move ska to bal? I mean den Ska was gonna bounce the North Sea Yeah, I’m dumb Did you work out Warsaw with Austria? I mean he’s not protesting me going after it but in all likelihood I won’t get it till spring We kinda need to make a big play in spring 1905 before Turkey is totally destroyed Will he support you in? Turkey is supporting me into Moscow in exchange for support in sev. Why did you move to ska? All that does is threaten Norway needlessly Accidental move I mean to go bal, but it’s kinda inconsequential to me. I really don’t have anything for those guys to do. Except threaten me But yeah I don’t blame you for feeling suspicious Yeah dude really total oversight. I’m committed to this alliance. How can you rectify it? If you’re scared I’m happy to set something you like as good faith but I think I’ve been pretty accurate to my word Gez man Whatever you want I literally have nothing to do with these units I get it tho I felt the same last turn but like I don’t want these kinda things to totally throw us off. I’m  banking on you help stop Austria and definitely have placed my trust in you 12 hours days I’m at a conference for work and can’t really pay too much attention to this rn But like in sort I’ll do what you want But I don’t like this tone of “how will you rectify” like I don’t want any tension here Ok, fair enough. I had one of those days too. It’s a suspicious move but as long as we can figure out a way to get you back in Denmark we’re cool. I’m totally game. And like I said, no hard feelings here either. I think we’ve both really committed to working together and so we’re hypersensitive to getting stabbed Here’s my orders as they are set right now.
Bur>Par
Hold in Bel
Kie>Ruh
Ber>Pru
Sil>War
Ska>Den
Hold Sweden Honestly it might be best to make a habit out of sharing and confirming our movesets to avoid problems like this. That way if there is a stab, there are no two ways about it. Another thought - maybe, we agree that if we want to break the alliance after Austria is subdued we have a one term armistice so we can regroup and prepare, once again to reduce risk of stab F BAR - NWG
F Lon - NTH
A Pic - Bre
A Stp - Mos
F Wal H Building an army in Edi so I can convoy to Norway. Going to push on the channel from North Sea. If Russia is smart, he’ll disband Warsaw because it’s dead no matter what. That will be annoying for st. Pete but we’ll see. Austria is nervous of you. He’s asking me to not support you into Warsaw. I’m playing very coy. Happy to support you in but if you think we can use this for some duplicity why it try? I could tell him I’ll help him out to keep him on my side for now. He sees that you will be “pointlessly moving east.” And you are a “poor player who doesn’t deserve Warsaw.” Clearly some threat there. HAHAHAH now I really want him dead Like why a dick? Does he think that we want his respect because he’s some highly ranked dude? BS. As long as he loses, I’m happy. *what He messaged me that he’s confused why I won’t move on england He just messaged me asking me to “talk tonight.” Whatever that means. I hope we can troll him good Good to know. Me too! Austria is trying to convince me that you will attack me lol He’s committed to joining forces against you. I’ve stayed silent. Thanks man. Could you support me into Paris? Once I’m there I can support you on the coast. Sure Thanks man! Much appreciated. How did your chat go with Austria? Hey man how’s it going? Austria is telling me things you apparently said about me Trying to provoke me to attack you. I haven’t said a word to him Keeping him in the dark Smooth. Ok, now he’s trying to convince me that the only place for expansion is through you. Are you not planning on moving on him? I’m surprised you didn’t move into Munich. I’m moving on him in the spring after I get my two new builds. I don’t want to arouse too much suspicion before the blitzkrieg So the plan is army in Munich and army in Berlin? Will you support pic into Brest? Yes, I’ve already set my orders to do so. And yes army in Mun and Ber Still wanna share orders? Yeah for sure. Especially if we’re going to turn on Austria soon, we should be coordinating clearly Have you been talking to Italy or Turkey? I’ve been talking to turkey but he realizes he’s donezo Don’t be tempted by Austria. He’s a smooooth talker. F ENG S NAO - MAO
A Mos S Arm - Sev
F NAO - MAO
A Pic - Bre
F Wal S Yor - Lon
A Yor - Lon He sure is. And Turkey can’t win, but he will still be alive and potentially able to recover some builds when we hit Austria. A Bel - Ruh
A Bur S Par
F Den - HEL
A Par S Pic - Bre
A Sil S War
F Swe - Den
A War H Who are you supporting in Sev? Any chance I can count on Warsaw to support Moscow? Also, we should block frances retreat in the North Sea. I was supporting Armenia to sev Nice. I think we should protect the north seas because a rouge french fleet will be a big distraction from the Austria front. Updated my orders. I’m now supporting you in Moscow. Italy is telling me that you and Austria will team against me in Warsaw. I think this is Austria trying to bait me into acting against you or him. I’m going to bounce France out of the North Sea baring protest from you. I will remove my fleet from the North Sea once it is not needed to protect from France. That’s cool with me. We have to stay strong. I won’t be flipping A Bel - Ruh
A Bur S Par
F Den - NTH
A Par S Pic - Bre
A Sil S War
F Swe - Den
A War S Mos My updated orders I need some strategy help I needed to convince Austria not to take Moscow. In told him I wouldn’t support turkey into sev if he didn’t take Moscow and then we could talk about moving against you. The truth is I still plan on supporting turkey however I don’t have much of a plan after that. We need more armies up north. I just realized that for that to work, Warsaw needs to hit Ukraine Is that possible? Geez, so many moving parts here. If I don’t hear from you 5 minutes before adjudication I’ll just hold Moscow and deal with turkey and sev next year. Hey just got out of a meeting Glad to hear from you My fear is that by hitting Ukraine, I provoke Austria and become the aggressor. That makes it unlikely we can convince Italy to stay neutral. At this point, I am almost hoping Austria attacks me in some way so I can claim retaliation and blitzkrieg Just read my message from Austria, he is thinking about taking Moscow. He said “because I am not hearing from england...” this was 9:05 am est so I assumed you have hammered it out since then. *assume Unless he stabs, yes Sweet. IF he does stab, then we have an excuse to invade. I’m not going to try and convince you to move against Austria if you don’t want to. I do think however that if we can knock him out of sev we are on a much better strategic position. I’ll plan on holding Moscow unless you say otherwise. What can I do to knock him out of Sev on this turn? I totally agree. There is nothing I rather do than deny him another build. But I don’t see how I can possibly stop him this turn. I had the same conversation with Turkey. You hit Ukraine. I support Armenia into sev. Black supports Armenia Damn this is a tough call. Well you let me know what you want to do and I’ll plan around it. It’s all up to you. Maybe it’s time to just go ahead and make the first strike. I alert him to my intentions, but deny him a build, which is far more important. Still, the trade off is now he will be able to move against me in spring 1905 and that might be a big advantage. But your builds will protect against that, no? Don’t forget that by doing this turkey is still a contender So with this move, his army in sev is forced to disband Right So do I hold or support? If I hit Austria, what does our spring 1905 strategy look like? I’m playing around with the sandbox. Our odds are better if Italy stays out of it. If we go all out on Austria, we need you and turkey to be strong. It’s going to be intense in no mans land and everything will come down to who’s line breaks first. We’ll have Austria squished. Either I build armies and funnel through Scandinavia to help you or build fleets and take on Italy. I’m nervous but I think it’s time to take the plunge. This is minus one for Austria and plus one for our ally. Ok, cool. Let’s do it F ENG S NAO - MAO
A Mos S Arm - Sev
F NAO - MAO
A Pic - Bre
F Wal S Yor - Lon
A Yor - Lon A Bel - Ruh
A Bur H
F Den - NTH
A Par S Pic - Bre
A Sil S War
F Swe - Den
A War - Ukr I’ve got a bad feeling about this stab If you think we’ll have a better opportunity later we can do that. I don’t know what’s gonna happen next but it feels like this is a good spot. I think you are right rationally. My concern is twofold. 1. We will most likely force a hostile Italy. I’m sure that would have happened any way but we destroy any possibility. 
2. We give Austria a heads up, he will defending the neutral ground Yeah actually We can’t do it this turn, I’m sorry. Once I get the jump on him in the spring I can force him to disband. Plus give you more time to bring units over I’m going to play it conservatively here and not stab Sorry for the last minute change up Ok then. Hold Moscow it is. I’m too risk adverse Wow, good call my man. Turkey is dumb. Shame I couldn’t take Brest. We avoided prematurely springing ww3 by the skin of our teeth We should get thinking about what the next move is. We’re lucky that we have the build phase now so we have 36 hours to brainstorm the best move and gather more intel.  

I would love to work out a scenario where Italy remains neutral but assuming that won’t happen, I think you’ll have to be prepared to keep him busy in the west cleaning up the ruins of France. Perhaps I can convoy your army in London to Norway and you can begin to sweep him in? I was thinking the same thing re:convoying to Norway. I need to find a couple builds. Brest is a lock. And I’ll have to make sure Italy is still on board with giving me Portugal. I’d like to see more of my fleets pushing into the med and more of your armies pushing east. I don’t have time to think about precise moves but just general strategy Yes I agree. I don’t want to do it before we’re ready, but I don’t want to wait until Austria has killed turkey. Agreed Can you see anywhere for me to expand that isn’t Austria? I assume he’s going to try to pressure me into attacking you. That’s my impetus for attacking ASAP. The longer I wait the stronger Austria grows while I stagnate. I’m in the same boat my man. Austria is the only way for you to expand other than through me. I have to bust through France and Italy. This is a tough alliance but I’m committed to making it work. Oh yeah attacking each other is NOT an option. But I think moving on Austria ASAP is. Sorry hope that was clear. Agreed F ENG - MAO
A Lon - Nwy
A Mos H
F NAO S ENG - MAO
A Pic - Bre
F Wal - ENG Here’s what I’m thinking From Austria: “did you ask Germany to move into the North Sea? If not I’m all in with you. He’s the largest on the map now with free access to Norway and Edinburgh. Let’s go after him.” Any ideas on how to spin? Hmm let me think about it. This could be gold tho. If we can somehow spin a narrative that Austria is going after me and breaking out alliance, we may win over Italy What are you thinking? I think we can force sev now with turkey so long as he’s not a donkey Yeah let’s discuss with him and put together a fool-proof plan. I’m kinda busy this evening so I hope you guys can put together a good strategy I'm talking to him now plan on hitting Ukraine turkey is starting to back down. what do you think if I take warsaw from you with austira's help to gain some trust from him? just thinking out loud here Um I think that’s a horrible idea I have a material advantage over Austria now, why blow it? ok, fair turkey is back on board hit ukraine and i'll support armenia in Yo can we do this in the fall? I want to take Gal so I can take Vienna in the fall. If I don’t take Gal I risk losing Warsaw Austria is going to take Warsaw from me if we don’t plan carefully here. I think you should support Warsaw, as I move my unit into Gal. Then the following turn, I will attack the Ukraine and open the path for Turkey to recover. Can you get on board with that? Full disclosure I feel kinda shakey since you suggested supporting Austria into Warsaw. Here are my orders: 
    
A Ber - Sil
A Bur H
F Den - HEL
A Mun - Boh
F NTH H
A Par S Pic - Bre
A Ruh - Mun
A Sil - Gal
A War S Sil - Gal Let me know when you get this - once again my conservative instincts want to make sure I sure up my position before helping turkey. Don’t let Austria smooth talk you. He’s really good. He wants me to hit you lol, as always. SOS just checking in Austria said you asked him to move on me? Hey dude you gotta answer me ASAP Dude Austria just used my IRL name Wtf Sorry I’m in it to win it with you I won’t be swayed I want Austria to lose How does he know your real name? F ENG - MAO
A Lon - Nwy
A Mos S War
F NAO S ENG - MAO
A Pic - Bre
F Wal - ENG Don’t waiver dude I’m with you Thanks for supporting Warsaw Much appreciated A Ber - Sil
A Bur H
F Den - HEL
A Mun - Boh
F NTH H
A Par S Pic - Bre
A Ruh - Mun
A Sil - Gal
A War S Sil - Gal Oh shit dude my bad on Norway. I didn’t look closely enough at your orders. Happy to convoy your armies but definitely specifically ask me to do it and make sure I confirm or I might miss it. I’m glad Austria decided to hit me as well. I think Italy will stay neutral, perhaps even lean towards our side. "Glad that I at least got him to mess up your convoy lol" that was from austira I mean he did succeed there At least he’s openly at war with us now Sorry we have to be very explicit with our coordination Man Austria sucks we gotta wreck him. he's implying that you purposefully didn't convoy Why in God’s name would I do that? What went wrong here is that we sent each other our move set but didn’t look closely enough. Also if you need me to convoy, I’m happy to do it but you should specifically ask for it. Austria is right tho dude - I was so freaked out last night that he used me real name I was off my game Like that still creeps me out tbh I just set me orders to convoy you this turn, assuming things are still good here. ok how does he know your name? Dude I have no idea He just like used it randomly in the convo and I have no idea who he is are you part of a diplomacy teams group?  because if you've played a lot of gunboat games through that app, real name is attached to dip name. Perhaps that’s it, but still how would he know that I’m Germany in this game? Either way it was a wack gambit that really bugged me out Like he thought using my IRL name would get me to trust him But are you and I good? yes.  as long as after the convoy you move out of n sea Like I sent you my orders last night exactly as they adjudicated so it’s not like I was hiding something Okay word italy is asking how he can take portgual and i reminded him that portugal was supposed to be mine.  this might be where things turn between me and him But you cannot move into the North Sea either tho! no, neither of us are supposed to be there Yes exactly. good glad we’re on the same page It made sense to block France and I appreciate you trusting me to park there temporarily austria is Ajax on discord.  I just put that together by his profile pic.  I don't know who Ajax is IRL Yeah he’s got a cool pro pic No but dude he got really wack about it Like let me quote you some stuff “We didn’t have trust before. You thought we had trust. That is the foundational mirage of diplomacy.” wtf I just found that stuff off-putting Like weird way to double down on already making me feel weird Austria’s only path to survival here is to convince you or Italy to attack me. are we waiting on retreats still?? Ya I think so This turn exceeded my expectations Turkey retook sev and I snagged vie Plus you took MAO Only bummer is that Turkey lost Con I also made it into MAO Lol, yo said that Big win all around so you're moving to denmark and Helgoland, right? I’ll def leave the North Sea but haven’t decided where to go yet (Obviously not your turf don’t worry!) What’s our strategy in the south east? I’m considering moving Bur> Mun to helpeith the austria offensive. I would move my fleets to Hol and Bel to deter from a potential Italian incursion. Sorry for going MIA Crazy day No sweat I need to take Portugal somehow Can you support me into Gascony? Sorry I ptfoed I perceived Italy’s move in Tyr as an act of aggression against me. I need you to cut support in Marseilles for me Can you do that? F ENG S IRI - MAO
A Gas S MAO - Spa/sc
F IRI - MAO
F MAO - Spa/sc
A Mos S Sev
A Pic - Bre
A Stp - Lvn Do you want me to hit Mar? We need to take Ukraine Yes. Please hit Marseilles Yeah I can do that Sev can’t fall Taking Ukraine allows me to open up another line of attack on Austria and support and protect Turkey Ok, we’ll we should do it in the spring so that if he ends up taking sev we have an opportunity to take it back. Agreed would you be down to move Moscow there? If not, I can use Warsaw Where? To Ukraine I think that’s ok You moving there or me? I’ll move there in the spring Sweet What should I do in your opinion this turn? You seem stalemated The lines are going to get entrenched soon We’ll have to use some diplomacy skills to get Italy on our side Might be a little late. who needs diplomacy skills when you have NMRs? Lol Should have gone on the offensive what is they say about hindsight? 20/20? True Didn’t lose any ground tho Can you please support Gascony into Marseilles? I’m in the fence about war with Italy. He withdrew from Tyr and wants peace. I’m afraid of him teaming up with Austria. I would prefer to wait a year before hitting him, so I can cripple Austria. *on Like I’ve always said, my primary goal is beating Austria hahaha Italy is done for Let’s kick him while he’s down You have nothing to fear in him anyways. It’s not looking good, but if he teams with Austria he can really slow me down. He could slow me down with Austria. At least let me get a foothold in Tyr and Ukraine and pick up one more Austrian SC before turning on Italy. I really just want one enemy to focus on. I could be comfortable turning Bur over to you. Move my unit back to Munich to focus on Austria, then you could support yourself in during the fall. Would that work for you? Can you support my unit in war into Ukraine? Yes, both plans sound good. Please let me into burgundy and I’ll support you into Ukraine Good shit man. I’m moving Burg to Mun and War to Ukraine Any chance you’d give up Paris? I don’t see where my sc is coming from and I need a build for our parity. 100000% no Why not? You got a build last turn and I didn’t, but I didn’t demand Norway. My goal is to beat Austria. I need every unit I can to do so. You’re at 10 Look man I’m not going to shrink myself for you to feel safer. I love our alliance and think it has definitely worked for our mutual benefit. But we never agreed that there was an expectation of parity and even that suggestion makes me weary of a stab from you. Does that make sense? Like I really want to focus on beating Austria. Once he’s gone, then we can talk about Paris. ok no stab. don't worry. Dude I’m gonna help you more I don’t see how neutrality with Italy is sustainable I’m going to talk to him, but at this point I don’t see how I’m not supporting you into Mar. I don’t like what happened in Spain. Very happy about turkey’s success. The big turning point will be once you get a foothold in the med I’m very displeased with what’s happening in Iberia Me too dude. I’m happy to help however I can Would you be down to help me into Ven in a few turns. Now that you’re in mar and I’m in Tyr we’ve cracked the nut of Italy What’s the plan? I’ve been swamped with life. I need support in Marseilles I’m gonna try and take Spain Okay Dope I was hoping to move to Mun so I could defend Tyr But I can move par to burg and then support From there I’m frustrated with Turkey. I need him to help hit Austria in Rom. We can break Austria literally this season. If he doesn’t comply, I’m okay with threatening to take sev Turkey is on board. Obviously DONT HIT SEV haha F Bel
A Boh S Tyr
A Bur - Mun
A Gal - Bud
F Hol
A Par H
A Tyr - Tri
A Ukr S Sev - Rum
A Vie S Gal - Bud
A War - Gal My moves Hey man -  wanted to check in and touch base with you What’s happening Your annihilation if aistria is almost complete It is!! Thank you for being such a solid ally I’m down to continue working together ok, well i need SCs Spain, Portugal? Italy’s being a real stick in the mud on that Yikes so is this the end of the alliance? All good things come to an end, I understand With Italy? I don’t think we were ever really allied Oh no with me and you I was worried Yeah I can help you as long as we’re totally cool Dude, chill Lol sorry Every other message it’s stab worry We’re in it together Fuck yeah F f