Hello germany! I figured we should open up talks Yes, most certainly. I would very much like to work with you against Russia to keep him from dominating the North, and working against France together would also be great. E/G is one of my favorite alliances to play. Would you be okay with the idea of me having Hol? The fifth build can be tough for England. I would very much not be okay with you having Hol, it's an SC directly bordering my home. I can help you into Bel though, or help you against Russia into Sweden or St Pete for that extra SC or 2. Understandable but worth the ask in my opinion. Not trying to be overly aggressive. I don’t want to overcommit to attacking anyone this early, but I appreciate you offering support. So you don’t think you and France will be friendly? As a western power I usually stay undecided as to who I really want to work with during the first year. But generally speaking I prefer an E/G over an F/G or E/F. It just makes dealing with Russia so much easier. Makes sense I play germany the same way, any time that I am too aggressive or get 6 in the first year I end up getting ganged up on. So Russia sent me a message asking for a deal. He said if I would help him into Sweden he would support me into North Sea after he takes Norway. This obviously raises some red flags since he is already assuming he will take Norway. I'd be surprised if he wasn't opening Moscow to St Pete. He told me he wants to open against Germany, and that he would help me into Denmark from Sweden 😂 I didn’t believe him (and voted so) because that is a terrible opening for Russia. Seems like he is a troublemaker Lol. Yeah, he's the only person I've thumbs downed so far. So he told austria to his face that he plans on moving into Gal (according to Austria) seems like a wildcard Have you actually talked to France yet I sent a message. He just responded. Reading it next. How’d that go? Well, he told me he was supporting himself into Burgundy, so uhhhh.... not really liking him so far Oof, yeah that is aggressive. At least he’s honest? He could be bluffing. Get me to think that moving to Bur is pointless and that I should stay in Munich. Instead he blitzes north to Pic and takes Bur from Marseilles uncontested. Now he has two units poised to take Bel or possibly attack Munich if I do leave. Either way, telling me that is not good news for me Yeah it means he will not be friendly. I’ll be in NTH so I’ll be in a powerful position. I’ll be happy to lend support assuming I am cleared to get Nwy. Just let me know Yeah I think we'll be fine, it's just hard that France and Russia are both playing against us. We will see what russia actually does, they seem like a wildcard Well, you are poised to take Norway, and I can bounce Russia out of Sweden. I'd like to take Holland, but you can have Belgium. Unfortunately France did get into Burgundy like he said, so he could either go to Munich or Belgium. Yeah I am trying to find out for you (discretely) if he will be hitting Munich. Are you actually planning on bouncing Swe? I think it’s a fun move. How do you want to handle the French threat? I might be able to bounce him  in Bel or even take it if he goes Mun like I would expect In full disclosure, France offered to go to EC and I said I'd love that, fully expecting him to never go there (why would he give up a build to go EC?). France told me that you were lobbying for him to go to Ruhr, which doesn't exactly match up with the last message you just sent me. If France doesn't go to Bel, Spain, and Portugal I would be very surprised. I'm going to cover Munich regardless, it's too big of a risk to let him in. That makes sense, that’s annoying that France is trying to split us up. At least I can bounce him in Bel. Are you doing the russia bounce? If I am going to stand with you I need to know if I have to prepare for some Russian anger Yeah I lied to Russia. 😂😂 sounds good, so how do you want me to play this turn? Hit bel? You never denied that you told France to go to Ruhr. I'm too paranoid for this game I would love it if you went to Bel I did not tell France to go Ruh, I don’t want that much pressure on you and it would be better for us if he went Bel and I bounced him Well that was kinda dumb on your part. You knew I was going to Holland, so you didn't get a build AND you made me mad. I was soooooo sold on allying with you all game, but not anymore. Can you please explain your thought process there? Not sure what I need to explain, I feel like I have more to gain siding with France, especially since you have angered Russia. Except that France is now at 6 SCs and you are at 4 and I'm much more angry at you. France is in a much better position than you now. I still dont understand why you are gunning for me. I literally was ready to work with you wholeheartedly and you are attacking me while leaving yourself open to Russia and France who are not exactly helping you back. I guess their lies are more persuasive than my truth... I stabbed you but now it looks like France is stabbing me. I’m going to stop attacking you after I take Den Lol. Or you could not take Denmark, protect yourself, and try to stop France. So if you stop attacking me I will shift all aggression to Russia. If you want to help stop Russia from rolling me (then possibly teaming up with France against you) I would appreciate Denmark tapping Baltic. I’d consider it if you could get France off my back I tried working with you against France at the beginning and you declined. Now it's a bit late, as I warned you before. I can try to get him to back off, but it will be very difficult at this point. Yeah I’m not saying that we have a full alliance but there’s no reason for me to just help you, especially when it would leave me with 0 allies Do you have more than 0 allies right now? I wouldn't consider Russia an ally so much as he isn't going to attack you until I'm dead. Russia has turned on Turkey when convenient, turned on Austria when convenient, and Italy thought they were allies when they weren't. Trusting Russia will kill you. Okay so several countries have come to me saying that you are painting me as not wanting to work with you. That's entirely false. I have made 0 moves against you. You have attacked me. I have asked for your help against Russia, you said you would only do it if I somehow got France to help.
From my point of view I have done everything in my power to work with you, and you are spurning me at any chance you get.
Please stop working against me. Please stop spreading false ideas about me. Is there something I did to personally offend you? I am not trying to spread lies, I genuinely feel as though you have no interest in working with me. I was under the impression that you said that it was “too late” for us to work together. England/Germany/France is always a 2 on 1, usually with England choosing their side. I played both and decided to go with France mainly because their plan and communication felt better. I chose wrong, and I am paying dearly for it. I apologize for doing so. At this point it feels as though you are working with France, which is inherently against me. If I have read that wrong then I apologize, but for those reasons I could not just go against Russia because in doing so I would cause a 3 on 1. That is why I asked you to get France off of me in exchange, it is the only way I survive. Otherwise it doesn’t make a difference to me if I lose and France wins or I lose and Russia wins. I am honestly sorry for how our game has started, and I am proposing an alliance between the two of us. I know that it will be hard for you to trust me, but I think that you can see that it is my only option, and so to betray you again would be short sighted and suicidal. If you can’t trust me, then I have no choice but to hope russia wants me as his sidekick given my navel power. I don’t want that to be my role in this game, so I hope that you will consider my proposal. Thank you for being honest with me now. I'm not working against you at all. I am very interested in working with you, considering that I was the one who approached you and asked to work against Russia together. 
I actually felt like you didn't want to work with me, because you were saying you wouldn't work with me unless France backed off - something I cant control. I have been talking with France, and I think i might have actually got him properly scared of Russia to back off of you. I'm waiting to hear back from my latest message, but he will only do it if you actually do help against Russia, something I still dont know if i can trust you on. So how do we do this. I can help you by stopping russia in the north, you can help me by putting some pressure on France so that he has to go home. What do you think about me supporting you into the Bal from Kiel and supporting you into Bel. You push back russia a little, and cost France a build if you cut the Bur support. Oh so you don’t want to go against France? I cant attack France with Munich this turn. I will likely lose Munich if I attack Bur, and then that does me no good at all, since I'll be at like 1 SC at the end of the year. That’s fair, how about that Kiel move then If Russia moves Baltic into Berlin with support than I have lost Berlin, vacated Kiel, and again I'm down to like 2 SCs. I really do want to work with you, but you and Russia put me in a super super bad position and I pretty much have to hold this phase. I have tried to think of ways around it and I just cant. Holland is free though I suppose if I trusted you and France 100% I could use Holland to cover for Kiel I am sending NTH to Lon this year (I hope it works) which would make you feel better. If you want this to work you will have to trust me. Honestly I think the best help might just be tapping Baltic for me so that I can hold everything tight this phase, but that's just going to stall everything out, so idk. This game is pretty hopeless for me I'm afraid. Me as well, I messed up things for both of us and I apologize. Why don’t I just gamble and take Sweden? Well, BOT is probably going to Sweden, so that also wouldn't be a terrible move BOT might fill Bal, he thinks I’m getting him into Ber this turn Where are you supposed to be supporting him from? Oh... Bal Yep, obviously I will not though Okay, yeah, this is good. I think going to Sweden will work best then. Just waiting to hear back from France now Same Well, Russia has a disband and we both kept our SCs this year, so that's good news. France unfortunately still seems intent on attacking you, he never responded to my last message Russia offered me support into Denmark. No doubt still trying to take Berlin, or maybe trying to get Norway Yeah this France thing is getting annoying