Hey Russia, looking forward to a great game 🙃. I think we should discuss Scandinavia 😉 and how to split it up. I’m not interested in attacking you, at least for a while. Hopefully you feel the same way. Anyways, good luck and have fun! Always good to discuss things in advance to avoid unnecessary nonsense. I'm not particularly interested in Norway so long as you're not interested in Sweden. Sounds good That was a hell of a bluff you must have pulled to put that army in the Netherlands Thanks 😊. So I'm guessing you plan on hitting the Germans then? Need help with that? Well... I suppose I could let you have/help with Berlin, but don’t build any fleets That's asking a whole lot considering how the Britain/Russia paradigm often ends. I would like to focus all my attention on Germany, which could leave me a bit exposed. You don’t seem to be meeting all to much resistance over there, and I really don’t want to be attacked from you. I am not interested in attacking you as I have my hands full with Germany, and making sure France doesn’t turn I definitely understand that, and I trust you, but it's better to trust and *also* verify. Verify... how? By making it harder for you to simply walk into St. Petersburg with no consequences, if you chose to do that. Do you think perhaps the French intended to build the opposite things in opposite places? It seems an odd choice to do what they did there. Agreed... Either that or they're up to something very squirrely. This turn's going to be quite a weird one isn't it? I suppose. Any way I can persuade you to give me my supply center back? Considering you tried to land an army, clearly aiming to overpower first St. Petersburg and then Sweden and so on and so forth, I would rather not if I'm honest. It pains me to see that I guessed correctly that you'd try to launch an offensive, but I'm not fool enough to step aside and let it happen now that I know. No offense.

You could likely walk into Belgium though, considering the Germans and French have talked (Partly through me, which was weird tbh) and agreed that the Germans will walk out, and the French will occupy it with a single unit; you could overpower that easily. I doubt that's part of your plan though all things considered. You sure? France said they were going to support themselves in and, so far they have been 100% honest with me. I totally understand you not giving me Norway back, I would probably do the same. But... what if I did something for you in return? I could support you into Denmark. Frankly, I would rather you have it then them. This would be, of course, provided you give me Norway back. I'm just telling you what they told me dawg.

And I'm afraid that for defensive purposes, relinquishing Norway at this point isn't really an option. I can assist you in taking Denmark, and possibly Kiel so long as I get Berlin, but Norway is too vital. I'd need you to get out of the Barents first of course. If I keep attacking Norway, it's really going to gridlock you. If I keep talking to the French and they see you bouncing off of Norway season after season, do you think they might start seeing my point of view? I don't want to, it's bad for me too. Especially if what you said is true, I'm going to lose two centers this turn I'd prefer to take that army elsewhere. Neither of us gains much of anything by being enemies but the more time passes with your fleets so far away from Liverpool, the more the French might see you as an easy target. If you have to deconstruct two units this turn you'd have a hard time stopping them too. That's just my personal take though. No, I'm worried about france too. Why do you care about how well I do? Lol france is asking for me to support into Munich AND belgium, leaving me at 3, them at 7, and liverpool exposed. I'd rather have more troops in the south. Things are getting weird. I also think that France is using you; every time I talk to them they're very lukewarm on the topic of you, furthermore, with them fighting the Germans and soon to be the Italians, they'd be an easy target if you moved fast enough. I think if you talked to the Germans they'd be more than willing to discuss. Also lmao that'd be a disgustingly arrogant deal for them to offer, I almost don't believe you. I stabbed germany with holland, they don't like/trust me. I do get the sense france is trying to use me. No, I'm serious. I tried explaining how stupid that was to them and they were like "Munich is really importand for France, and from there I could support you into Kiel/Berlin. I think that if you earnestly offered, and proved your willingness to work with the Germans by pulling off of them for a season, that they'd be all too willing to pivot to the French, personally. That's a set up to build a fleet in Brest to pick you off solo, I can almost guarantee it. Or, it's just russia trying to persuade enland to attack France, who he doesn't want to see becoming to powerfull 😉 Lol I'm allowed to have ulterior motives aren't I? I admit that that would be a good outcome, but just speaking honestly and frankly, you have no chance of stopping a French solo if all goes wrong for you this turn, how long will it take before they see you as liability that they can't afford? I'm just offering options aside from that, because tbh that's always a depressing outcome for the English. The Entente is a powerful alliance for France, but it's never more than a silver medal for the English. ok. Support me into Denmark this turn and we have a deal Ill attack them I want a season of you backing away from St. Petersburg first. Again, no offense, but if I say "yes" to that and you believe me, it's a golden opportunity to take Norway back for you, and I don't know that you'd pass it up. If you're being honest, your fleet has nothing to do in the Barents anyways I still want to do an agreement where I get norway and you get Denmark. Barents would move to Norway Alright, you have yourself a deal. If you're lying though, it's back to basics. I'd prefer we exchange those at a later date though. I... really need supply centers. Let me talk to france and germany, and I'll let you know in a bit what the plan is. If Barents is gone, Nwy isn't a threat. in fact, I am a bit worried that you won't hold your word, and even if you do, Nwy will be easy for you to get with Sweden and Stp If Barents is gone it's 3 v 3 and I wouldn't be able to get back in if I wanted to, you'd still have the North Sea and Norwegian Sea. Well, barring the Germans, but they're about to lose 2 supply centers so not much to fear there. No, i need fleet Nth for many things, and won't always support norway Well that just means you'll have to trust me as much as I'm having to trust you with this move, eh? Yeee Besides, part of you moving away from the Barents is that I want to be able to move that army goddamnit, lol huh? The army in St. Petersburg. St. Petersburg is perhaps the last place I want to have it. Right.... where *is* norway going? Army Stp can't move into the barents... Unless you invented submarines St. Petersburg of course. It's not got much else to go to. I'm proposing BAR as a sort of demilitarized zone; the reason I want the army out of St. Petersburg isn't so I can build there, it's so that it can go help in the south. Moscow, Warsaw, and Sevastapol are all further south than Stp... You are correct, and that's why I want the army to go down there to help out silly head. Not sure where the confusion stems from. "the reason I want the army out of St. Petersburg isn't so I can build there". Build in Stp = fleets to attack england OH SHOOT, you said "isn't" I thought you said "is" lmao Yeah lol, no worries, that shit happens to me all the time. Wait, so do you want to do the norway + denmark thing this turn? That is correct. k I'd prefer to have that buffer period where you move away, but you seem adamant on that. Well, I'm moving away at the same time. It's up to you if you leave Stp there for a turn or not. Where is Nwy going? Well yes, the big concern is whether or not you'll actually support me into Denmark; have your cake and eat it too sort of situation. this move does kinda require a lot of trust I suppose it'd go to Sweden first before heading off to St. Petersburg. Either that or swoop down to the Baltic Ok, I'm going to be 100% honest hear. Its a huge pain in my ass to support you into denmark this turn. I don't want to lose you as an ally. Can we do it next turn? Also I gtg pretty soon, but ill be back withing 1.5 hrs If we don't do denmark this turn, we don't have to do norway this turn, but I would really appreciate it as I need the centers, and also it would be getting out of the Baltic. I don't think I'm going to be able to get out of there otherwise, as I'm not sure my move from NWG to NTH will go through I don't know if I'm going to be losing a supply center in the south this turn, I can't afford to not gain one to compensate, you know how it is. Sorry but I really need Denmark if I'm losing Norway Alright, that's reasonable to me. Not doing the trade this turn I mean Then you not losing a center! It seems as if you are controlling turkey. They are a stupid player and you can steal a center with them. I know that's optimistic, but it's worth a try. 🧙‍♂️ God if only you knew how complicated things are down there. For every message doing legwork up here I'm sending two down there, either to the Italians, the Turks, or the Austrians. I definitely can't afford to make an enemy of the Turks right now in any case. 😤 fine For all the nail biting I'm doing in the north, I'm like that gif of Jordan Peele from Key and Peele sweating up a storm in the south, lol HOLD UP, russia. your not losing a center. I already owned Norway. I said "Losing one in the south" not losing one overall, if I were to give Norway AND then lose a center in the south however, I would be at -1, and have to disband. your not going to lose one in the south Tell that to the Austrians lol. Talk to them. Get turkey to support you. If only it was that easy. The Austrians distrust me now. I'm going to be real with you, they're massive idiots. The Turks already support me but even with their support it's possible to lose either Rumania or Warsaw, depending on if I guess correctly. gah. Fine want to bounce somewhere so it doesn't look like were allies? with Bar You could easily bounce off of Stp or Norway and tell anyone suspicious that you thought you could easily get tricky, or something of that nature. sure JSYK France is being squirrely and talking to me about pivoting on you.