Hi there! I figured it would be good to open up talks between us, what’re your initial thoughts? I plan on playing rather conservatively until I see how some alliances are shaking out. Same on my end to be honest; first game I've ever played with any money on the line lol hm, if you're okay starting conservatively, could I make the ask that you start by opening to Tyn or move to take Tun with a fleet? I’d still plan on moving into ION, it gives me more options. Yea, I have no issue with Ion in and of itself ~~ id just rather not see you also setting up a Lepanto by prepping a convoy to Tun :p If you reeeally want to try a Lepanto, we can go for it lol, but I think we'd stall out a bit too much to make it worthwhile You know what a lepanto is right? I may be an idiot but I'm not stupid ... I'm just saying that if you come at me with a Lepanto, I don't think it'd be beneficial for either of us lol Got it, sounded to me like you were proposing that you and I do a lepanto lol I doubt Austria would trust me enough for that and yeah I’d have to catch you off guard so even you mentioning one makes it unrealistic Alrighty, glad we're on the same page -- that means Rome isn't going to apu or nap right ? It is, I’m not going to do a lepanto though, you can try to defend against it if you’d like but it won’t do you any good. I’m not trying to start a fight with austria immediately either. I realize this may be alarming to you, but I quite honestly do not want to attack you, in my experience a Lepanto is a lot better deal for Austria than Italy. I am truly planning on just getting my build and then reading the board We can continue to negotiate if you would like to, I don’t want to start off on the wrong foot. Have you heard from Austria or Russia yet? I have not. One reason I’m moving the way I am is because I have some interest in Gre, however I’m not going to try and sneak/force my way in there. I was wondering if you and Austria have talked about Gre or if you and Russia had discussed Rum since that has some implications as well. Nothing of note really, nah Any news on Austria? same old pretty much You havnt heard from them? Nothing worth telling -- they want me to attack you or Russia of course, but they haven't been too picky about which Interesting opening, still worried about me? I'd really appreciate not convoying to Tun What have you and Austria discussed regarding Gre? I imagine Austria is going to take it Anything on your end :p No I asked about Gre and have not heard back yet. Are you getting much from Austria? Would you help me go after Austria? Sure, what do you have in mind? I was hoping to get my army into Gre, I’d need support from you though. We’d be able to get you into Ser after that That sounds reasonable to me -- geographically tho, do you think it could make more sense for you to get tri and ser, while I get Greece? Maybe we could make that exchange later? I was trying to get my army involved in things I guess a convoy to Albania would be possible, but then we might have to delay taking Greece hmm Yeah I’m trying to get that army involved and take a SC this turn because it’s fall. Plus I could use the build with France getting scary. You don’t really have anyone attacking you Alright, that's fair yea, putting in the order now then Supporting Tun to Gre? Yep 👍 Thank you, we’ll get you some builds soon. Have you talked to russia about swapping Rum if he takes more of austria? We haven't really  discussed that, do you think they'd be open to it? Possibly, I know he wants to get rid of austria pretty badly so What’re you doing with Bul this round? Russia asked for it to support Rum again What do you think about it attacking Ser? I think that would guarantee it can’t support Gre holding or an attack on Rum Do you think that would work I'm a bit nervous about losing bul to be honest And I don't think the Russians would be super pleased either I’m just trying to guarantee that I get Gre you know? Is there a good way to do it? Yea, I feel you Gre is supporting me into the AEG (obviously I’m not gonna actually move that way) so that takes away one thing Austria also has been talking to me about attacking Russia, so maybe I can leverage that Yeah if you could get him to support Bul to Rum, then we would know that he’s not attacking you or Russia (because obviously you won’t actually attack Rum) I think he'd probably want to me to support him at this point, while I would in theory be able to take Sev, but I'm not sure that helps us Cuz that could just free up Ser even more yknow Alright, I'll be back online in a few hours -- have to go give an exam Understandable, so currently you are supporting a Rum hold with Bul? That's what I have, yea We can leave it as that Would you like support into Ser this year? Yes please thanks If u want to support aeg to con, I'd appreciate it