In private practice he works with a diverse array of people including many referrals from the city of Denver's judiciary system. He is particularly interested in cultivating 'counter-individualist' approaches to working with young people entangled in the criminal justice system. Over the last several years he has started using rap music in conjunction with narrative therapy to work with urban youth. Most recently, he has also become a member of an extraordinary international narrative team who use case stories (also known as exemplary tales) as a pedagogy for therapists and students interested in learning and/or refining the art of narrative therapy practice.