During the eighties he became involved in the production of experimental cinema. Work from this time was included in “Big as Life, a History of 8mm” at the Museum of Modern Art, New York. Through much of the eighties he was co-director of the pioneering Lower East Side Film series “Films Charas” and a board member of The Collective For Living Cinema. In 1984 he traveled to Berlin to shoot the Rosa Von Praunheim produced Vampire Film, “Der Bis”.