He has known Topchy for years, is documenting the dismantling of TemplO with a digital camera, and worked with him in 2000 curating a show called "Site/Work/S" in Houston during the International Sculpture Conference, which show was accompanied by a tour, undertaken in Topchy's art bus, of a dozen or so local examples, including The Artery, El Dorado Ballroom, No tsu oH, the Orange Show, Project Row Houses and TemplO.