But in more recent works he deliberately takes a distance to his position as a painter by experimenting with different media. In his case the crossing of traditional artistic borders of form and medium has almost become a theme in itself in his work. He used to make enigmatic black and white, abstract paintings with curling tubes that remind of a strange universe, later on he penetrated these paintings by metaphorically exploring them from the inside with a camera, or taking distance by installing them as miniatures in strange cabinets.