He was originally a GP but found that people's lives and stories were far more interesting than their blood pressure and so retrained in the mid '90s with the Australian and NZ Association of Psychotherapy. He has had a long and passionate interest in improvisational theatre. He did a two year training in the mid '90s, and since 2000 has been a member of Out of the Box Theatre Company (previously Paperbag Playback). His other passion is the Italian language which he speaks slowly and badly.