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The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04

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The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04
News Of Bluckfoot and Meriwether

Mrs Mary Jane Blight and
children Of Vallejo. Califor ia
are visiting with her relatives
and friends
Quite a few from the cOmmun-
ity drove TO Augusta Sunday to
attend the rOdeo
Best wishes go out TO Charles
and Lois Keller who celebrated
their sixteenth wedding anniver.
sary June 2lst
Pussy PepiOn of Browning has
been helping the Sinclairs this
past week with some remodel
ing on their home.
Mrs. Vena HarwOOd was a
business visitor Friday after.
noon
The Charles Kellers made a
business trip to Great Falls
Monday
Shorty Stokes Of Shelby is
spending a few days with Mrs.
Lorinda Brown.
Galen Galbraith of Cut Bank
visited al the teacherage for a
few days,
Birthday wishes go out to
Nina Keller who celebrated her
Bird birthday June 20 and also
The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04

to Mina's older sister, June who
celebrated her 10th birthday
June p. In honor of the occa.
sion the Keller children an d
Jimmy and Carol Delaney took
in the movie Sunday evening at
the Cut Bank Theatre.
The Leo Salois family return
ed home Friday from Seattle
where they had been visiting
with the Terry Jacoby family.
Warren and WinOna Scheck
and sons were Friday evening
visitors at the Sangsland home.
The Larry Whitford family
attended the family reunion
held Sunday at Babb for Bette's
grandmother, Mrs. DuBray.
Mrs. Lois Keller visited at
Sinclair and Sangsland homes
Wednesday.
The Walt Richards of East
Glacier and HoIli and Wendy
Galbraith were Tuesday even
ing supper guests at the Sangs-
land homo.
We've sure been getting the
rain around the community, but
from all remarks and the news
papers most of Montana is
The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04
Two Medicine News

Mr.. and Mrs. Frank Merchant
were here Thursday evening.
Agnes Mad Plume made a
trip to Cut Bank last week.
MIR. and Mrs. Willie Colbert
were at their ranch Sunday
afternoon to see how their
garden was growing.
MIR. and Mrs. Benny Croft
and family we're visitors at the
Spanish place Sunday.
Rosie Big Beaver was a visitor
at Agnes place last week.
Mr.. and Mrs. Johnny Tail
Feathers visited his mother,
Cecile.
There were quite a few people
who attended the funeral of
Mrs, Frank Goings.
MIR. and Mrs. Perkins were
here to check on his cattle.
Lawrence Mad Plume is
quite a farmer. One day he
forgot to check his drill and
he went round and round the
field with no oats, but later
made it good.
| am sure all you people have
heard about the three little
pigs going to market Well,
(Purkskin) had three that went
10 market
Mr.. and Mrs. Bill Spanish
are at St. Mary's where Nora
is taking care of her craft
shop.
Bernadine and Bernadete No
Runner were visiting their
cousin, Gym Davis, last week
at the Mission.
Leo Davis is running the Log
Cabin Bar in Dupuyer.
The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04

having a lot of rain. It's won
derful, but wish the sun would
shine a little more than it does
so everything would grow faster
It's been so cold and raw nothing
can grow.
Bill Devereau was. a visitor
Sunday on business.
Starting July 1st the new Zip
Code goes into effect for the
Blackfoot Post Office. along
with all other post offices
throughout the country. The e
Zip Code No. is to advance mail
deliveries by at least "a hours,
Everyone is urged to use the
Zip Code on all their cores
pondence and also ask the people
you correspond with to use It.
This will help 50 much in the
mail department.
Branding was in full swing al
the Charles Keller ranch Tues
day.
Bonnie Sangsland accompan'
led Mrs. Lorinda Brown TO
Shelby Wednesday. They were
dinner guests of the Frank
Stokes family and later took in
the Shrine Circus. They also
visited at the Art Andersons in
Cut Bank on their way.
Flight Eng. Ray Olse an d
family of Falmouth. Massachu'
sets were visitors this week at
the Charles Keller ranch. Mrs,
Olse is Charles sister. The Olse
family recently returned from
France and are visiting relatives
and friends around Cut Bank
Ralph Sangsland and daugh'
tiers, made a trip to East Glacier
on business Wednesday.
Ricky Reagan was a Saturday
visitor at the teacherage.
Bob Brewer and a friend from
Lake Mcdonald spent Sunday
visiting Bob's parents.
The Sangslands visited at the
Walt Richards home in East
The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04

Carma White of Blackfoot
and Louie Randall of Cut Bank
were recent visitors.
Mr.. and Mrs. Bernie Wilson
were at the Mission Friday
evening.
Agnes Mad Plume is getting
ready for the Indian Days. She'll
be on her way Sunday with her
crew.
Phillip Rather Jr. did not
go to town Friday but instead
went horse back riding. He had
to have a guide though. So
Lawrence Mad Plume had to
show him the country.
Paul Kenny from across the
mountains was down to check
on his crop.
Freddy La Pierre had been
busy stuccoing John Tail Feath-
ers' house at Heart Butte.
The nurse, Mrs. Larson, was
here visiting the people Wednes.
day afternoon.
We wish Annie No Runner
get we'll wishes so she can
come home. She has been in
the hospital for two months.
The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04
Works Program
In Glacier Park
Nears Completion

WEST GLACIER-Glacier Ma
tional Park is winding up its Ac-
celerated Public Works program
that has seen major improve
ment, according to Supt. H. J.
Bill.
Going into the water soon will
be T-shape public docks at Ap-
gar in Lake Mcdonald and in
Kintla and Bowman Lakes.
Other projects under cOnStruc-
tion include the new ampi-
theater at Apgar Campground
that will seat $50 persons and a
63-fOot bridge across Coal Greek
along the south park boundary
trail.
The new "a by "A foot two
Story barn near Park Head
quarters is nearing completion.
Presently the Accelerated Pub
lie Works Program is employing
n Flathead men in Glacier. A
total of S375,000 has been spent
since the public works program
started last fall when concentra-
ton was on campground n d
road vista improvements.
The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04

Boys Scouts and their parents
from practically every section
of the United States could very
possibly invade Montana in 1868
if the National Boy Scout JAM
boree is brought to the Glacier
Park area. The year 1868 may
seem a long time from now but
the 1864 Jamboree is already
planned for Valley Forge, Penn
sylvania
Governor Tim Babcock has
endorsed the Jamboree, in sign
ing a resolution passed at the
recent session of the Montana
Legislature and the resolution
has been placed in the Con-
gressional Record in Washing
ton, D. c., by Senators NJ TX e
Mansfield and Lee Metcalf.
Congressman Jim Battin is
working diligently in behalf for
the Jamboree for Montana
Scout leaders outside of Mon
tana are enthusiastic for the
idea and are working vigorous
ly to promote the Jamboree for
Montana.
National Boy Scout jam
borees have been conducted
several times in the East, twice
in the West in Colorado and
California but never before in
the Pacific Northwest. Roger
Sprinkle, Chinook insurance
agent, scoutmaster and instiga-
tor of the future project, told
members of the Highway 2
Association meeting at E a S t
The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04
Glacier Park Selected As Possible
Site For 1868 Boy Scout jamboree

Glacier that the JambOree
would be a tremendous boost in
tourist trade for all points in
Montana
In anticipation of such an
eventuality two specific sites in
the Glacier National ParkBlack
feet Indian Reservation country
of Montana have been made
available for such a purpose by
the owners of the land involved.
Both tracts lie between Brown
ing and East Glacier. They are
approximately five miles apart.
One of the sites is the Black
feet Indian Tribal land nestled
near the foot of Lower Two
Medicine Lake. The Tribal lands
are almost adjacent to the new
ly constructed East Glacier-Two
Medicine Lake road, The lands
are approximately five miles
from the railroad and Highway
2.
Both Highway 2 and the main
line of the Great Northern Rail
road touch the second available
site. 1t is located on the private
ly owned Krcbs Brothers ranch
west of Browning.
These grounds have more
grass than the Tribal lands and
less timber. The Krebs Brothers
ranch land is like the Tribal
land, further enhanched by a
beautiful mountain stream con-
siStirg largely of a series of
beaver dams and shallow pools
which are ideal for trout fish
ing.
Both campsites are roughly
5000 feet above sea level and
are free of snakes, rats, and 9th
er dangerous animals. They
have no unusual insect problem,
we'll drained. have a good turf
and are unusually free of dan
gerous natural formations.
The management of the Great
Northern Railway, which traver-
ses the Krebs ranch, has given
assurance that the railroad can
handle the job of 'gettin' 'em in
and gettin' 'em out Some -pOr-
ton of the transportation would
be handled by buses using High
way 2 and connecting roads, as
we'll as many airplane arrivals.
Considering the great interest
the Boy Scouts have in the his
tory of the lore of the American
Indians, the fact that both pro-
posed Jamboree sites are located
entirely within the Blackfeet In
dian Reservation, is bound to
be a major fact in their selec-
ton as a most favored site for
the 1868 Jamboree In this con-
nectiOn the Importance of the
Museum of the Plains Indians
located at Browning. almost
within walking distance of the
sites, could hardly be OverStated.
The National Boy Scout Or
ganization spent a million dol
lars of their own money fixing
the JambCree site in Colorado.
Colorado authorities estimated
an extra 10000 persons a day
entered the state during the
JambOree period.
All media of mass communi-
cation would use free of charge
one or more JambOree articles
on a national basis. Montana
could scarcely avoid receiving
huge amounts of free publicity
over a period of a year or two
in advance and for a like or
greater period after the event.
The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04
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The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04

The Senate passed and sent to
the President legislation raising
the national debt limit to S3O7
billion.
The bill as earlier passed by
the House, raises the legal debt
ceiling to S307 billion from
July through August 81, when
the legal debt will need a fur
ther increase estimates Secre-
tary of the Treasury Douglas
Dillon. ... ,
The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04

Glacier Sunday evening. Other
visitors we're the Randy Manuels
and Lawrence Hodgdons of
Browning.
The Glacier reporter., 1963-07-04

Carolyn Pease is visiting her
grandparents, Mr.. and Mrs.
George Pease, in Lodge Grass.
She drove down with Genevieve
Conger, who is on her annual
vacation from the Blackfeet
hospital.
The chronicle., 1963-11-21
Jury Is Recalled
For Indictment
To Be Reworded

TUPELO, Miss. CUPID = Cir
cult Judge N. S. Sweat Jr. has
ordered the Lee County grand
jury to reconvene Monday to re-
word an Indictment against j.
W. Riley, charged with attempt
ed armed robbery.
The action came Tuesday aft
er Riley'S attorney, Floyd Cum
bingham Of Bonneville, filed a
motion asserting Riley was not
charged with a specific crime
under Mississippi law.
Cunningham said the indict-
ment was faulty in that it
charged three different offenses,
including one which could be re-
garded as a capital offense.
Riley is charged jointly with
Eugene Martin in the attempted
armed robbery of Jamie w.
Grubbs. A case charging Carl
Murphy Jr. with murder in con-
nection with the Staying of
GrubbS is scheduled for trial
Thursday.
The chronicle., 1963-11-21
mp Opens Bios
For Bond Sale

Moss Points board of alder
men met Tuesday night and
opened bids on the city's $50, 900
bond sale. The bonds went to the
Merchants and Marine Bank Of
Moss Point, at an interest rate Of
81 percent on $40, 900 and 3
per cent on $40, with a six
dollar premium.
The board also approved a
proposal entered by the cham
Der of commerce concerning the
removal Of further property in
the Main Street widening pro-
gram, and reinstated a patrol
man, Bobby Lee Smith.
The chronicle., 1963-11-21
Charge Wallace
Distorted Facts
On Segregation

PROVIDENCE, r. /. (UPD-
Two Brown University profess
sors have charged that Gov.
George C.. Wallace of Alabama
distorted facts in the school
segregation issue when he spoke
here last month.
Drs. Peter McGrath and Viii
liam c. Mclaughlin Jr. said
Wallace leveled incorrect accu-
sations against a witness in the
1854 Supreme Court case which
resulted in the ruling that sep
arate but equal education was
unconstitutional.
The witness in question was
Prof. Kenneth B. Clark, a City
College of New York social psy-
chOlOglSt. ACCORDING TO the pro-
fessors, Wallace accused Clark
Of false testimony.
Wallace attacked Clark for
concealing the fact that he was
on the payroll of the National
Association for the Advance
ment Of Colored People, the
professors said.
But, they said, there was no
evidence that Clark withheld
this Information from the court.
They added that such an admis-
sion would be irrelevant and
The chronicle., 1963-11-21
Talk Sanctions
For Portugal,
South Africa

UNITED NATIONS, NY.
CUPID - The 32-nation African
bloc may demand a special
General Assembly session in
January to press for economic
and political sanctions against
South Africa and Portugal, dip
lomatic sources said today.
The Africans are talking
about such a session in the event
the Security Council fails to act
this month on their demand for
firm action to end racial Segre-
cation in South Africa and Por-
tugueSe colonial rule in Angola.
Security Council action ap-
pears doubtful, since the United
States and Britain oppose the
idea Of sanctions and both have
veto power in the 11-nation
council.
The Africans, with Asian
backing and the support of the
Communist bloc, could expect a
majority in a General Assembly
vote on the issue.
The 111-nation General AS
sembly voted 800 Tuesday to
begin studies on making Latin
America a nuclear-free zone.
Cuba, the Soviet Union and
most Of the Communist bloc
abstained. Communist Romania
voted in favor of the 10-power
Latin American resolution, how
ever.
The chronicle., 1963-11-21
Gov. Wallace
Has No Plans On
Auburn Mixing

COLUMBUS, Ga. CUPID -
Alabama Gov. George Wallace
has sideStepped a definite COM
mittment on his plans concern
ing the prospective indignation
of Auburn University.
Wallace, at a news confer
ence here Tuesday, said chats
a bridge well have to cross
when we come to it."
A federal court has ordered
the university deSegregated
next year.
Wallace, in an address to the
Columbus Quarterback Club
Tuesday night, said every
American businessman lis in
danger Of having his business
taken over by the Justice De-
partment."
He said that would be the re-
suit of Congress passes Presi-
dent Kennedy's civil rights bill.
He particularly attacked the
public Accommodations section Of
the bill. He said the next step
would be land-reform measures,
for which, he added, there is
already agitation.
In answer to neWSmen'S
queries, Wallace said:
He considered the persons be-
hind bombings near the Univer-
Sity Of Alabama ''demented."
He is planning entrance in
presidential primaries in Ohio,
Maryland, New Hampshire and
Indiana. He said there are
enough signatures on petition in
Maryland to proceed now.
The Independent cleo
tor movement he is heading
"has both major national poll
teal parties worried" He add
ed that it might influence both
Republicans and Democrats to
change their platforms.
He has met and will con-
tinue to meet with "those Ne
gro leaders who are truly in
terested in the betterment of
their state" But he said he
would not deal with Negroes
who are seeking only to fur
Their their own personal finan-
cial gains"
The chronicle., 1963-11-21
Flying WuIIendus
May Be Making
Last Showing

FORT WORTH, Tex. (UPI)-
The Flying WallendaS, haunted
by a possible link and mem
cries Of death on the high wire,
Wednesday opened what may be
the last performances of their
famous ''human pyramid"
This time it was done with
a net.
The performance, for I'M
derprivileged children at the
21St annual Fort Worth Shrine
Circus, was to be the first pub
lie performance since the pyra-
mid collapsed in Detroit Jan.
80, 1862, killing two members of
the troupe and paralyzing an
other.
Karl Wallenda, So, who origi-
mated the act In Germany in
1854, said Tuesday he did not
want to talk about the Detroit
accident. 1T was bad, very
bad" he said. AFTER the show,
then l will talk about it."
Karl said as leader of the
act, the decision to use a net
for the Fort Worth performance
was his.
This time | am for the net"
he said. Should l be RESPONSE
BILE for what happened in De-
trOit happening again people
would spit in my face on the
streets"
Karl saved himself in the De-
troit accident by scissoring his
legs around the wire as he fell.
He also grabbed the hand of his
niece, Jana Shepp as she fell.
Jana has since retired. Her huS-
band, Otter, %, died in the fall.
Herman Wallenda, Karl's
brother and at 81 the eldest
member Of the troupe, an
nounced he will retire at the end
of the circus in Fort Worth. He
said he felt fit as ever but IF
anything should happen to the
act in the future l might be
blamed"
Karl scoffed at the idea the
troupe was accident prone and
said one reason they would try
the human pyramid again was
ito show that we still can do
it."
Just two weeks ago, the pyr-
amid collapsed during a rehear-
sal at Sarasota, Fla, but the
wire was only u feet off the
ground instead Of the normal 40.
Karl said the act would work
the three-decker pyramid with
a full complement of eight peo-
pie for the last time any
where" Il
Il will never risk so many
people on the wire again"
"After Fort WORTH" Karl
said, Il intend to cut the act
to four people and do a less
dangerous pyramid on bicycles.
The chronicle., 1963-11-21
Kennedy Visits Texas
For Six Speeches, Hunt

DALLAS (UPD = President
and Mrs. Kennedy fly into Tex
as today in the Democrats
prologue to the 1864 presidential
campaign.
The White House insisted the
visit was largely mon POLITICAL
but at least one political speech
was planned. Five other talks
and a Texas deer hunt were
scheduled.
Vice President and Mrs. Lyn-
don B. johnson were to join the
Chief Executive and be his host
The chronicle., 1963-11-21
FdtoIIy Burned,
Smoking In Bed

MERIDIAN, Miss. CUPID -
Sammy Long. 27, was fatally
burned Tuesday at his home, 10
miles north of here. Authorities
said he was apparently smok-
ing in bed.
The chronicle., 1963-11-21

MISS EMILY FAYE JOHANS.
son, daughter of the LinwOod
JOhansSOns of Moss Point, be-
came a member of the South
ern Players at a candlelight
service held Nov. z on the
campus at the University Of
Southern Mississippi. Miss Jo-
hanson attended Virginia In
termOnt College in Bristol and
PerkinstOn College where she
won a place in the Hall Of
Fame. She is a former men,
Der of Delta Psi Omega dra-
matte fraternity and is major
ing in dramatics.
The chronicle., 1963-11-21

meaningless anyway under the
circumstances.
According to the professors,
the Alabama governor also as
sailed Clark for withholding con-
illusions Of a study Of the effects
of segregation on Negro chill
dren. They said court records
show these facts were given to
the court.
The Brown faculty members
statement was read by McGrath
at a regular convocation at
Pembroke College, sister school
to Brown.
Cairo, with a population Of
more than three million, is Afri-
---
The chronicle., 1963-11-21

at the 3OO-acre LBJ ranch, 65
miles west of Austin. The two
men were scheduled to hunt
deer at the Johnson spread.
Kennedy obviously will be
pressing for support in Texas,
where voters two weeks ago re-
jected repeal of the states poll
tax. Johnson, a former Texas
senator, actively stumped for
repeal Of the poll tax, but OPP
ponentS hit repeal as a play into
hands of liberals.
First Texas Visit
Mrs. Kennedy'S first trip to
the Lone Star State may be the
first Of many campaign outings
by the First Lady. She feels she
lis needed in the drive to re-
elect her husband.
The Chief Executive Thurs
day dedicateS the Aerospace
Medical Center at Brooks Air
Force Base, at San Antonio.
then flies to Houston to address
an appreciation dinner for vet
eran Rep. Albert Thomas, D
Tex. The presidential party will
spend the night in Fort Worth.
On Friday, Kennedy scheduled
a breakfast address at Fort
Worth; a lunch talk at Dallas;
an afternoon reception in Aus
tin at Gov. John Connally's man.
sion and the political speech at
a $1OO-a-plate evening dinner in
Austin.
Stay at Ranch
The Kennedys and Johnsons
bunk Friday night at the LBJ
ranch home. The 11-room frame
house is on land the Johnson
family has owned for more than
a century and stands on the
bank of the meandering Peder-
males River.
The nations top two leaders
were expected to drive Satur-
day morning to a larger spread
about IL miles from the house
to hunt the deer in billy, cen
trail Texas country.
Kennedy was to leave Texas
Saturday and probably will COM
plete his weekend at his coun-
try home near Middleburg, Va.
Texas Democratic leaders pre-
dicted large turnouts for all ap-
pearanceS and motorcades. Mrs.
Kennedy was expected to spend
much of the time at her hus-
bands side, but there was talk
she would make some appear
anceS on her own.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-02-19
LoriIIurd Climbs
In Industry Sales,
But Earnings Dip

NEW YORK. app. Lor-
lizard Co. earnings dipped in
1862 but the company climbed
to third place in tobacco in
duStry sales. 1t has reported.
A sales gain Of a. per cent
to $5l6,l08,38l put Lorillard
ahead Of Liggett g. Myers To-
bacco Co., which lost ground
last year and wound up with
volume barely under $500 mil
lion.
However, Lorillard trailed far
behind the leaders-R. j. Reyn-
olds Tobacco Co.. with 1862
sales of $l.6 billion. and Amer
lean Tobacco Co., with volume
Of SLIT billion.
Lorillard reported net in
come Of $26,63l.920 or 1894 a
share compared with $28,4l9,-
013 or $4.22 a share in 1861
when sales came to $492 $50 1872
Lorillard said international
operations gained by nearly 20
per cent. and foreign royalty
income was up substantially.