davidaulloa/AmericanStories huggingface dataset:
Evening star., 1963-02-06
GUIANA

Continued From Page Al
and Portuguese peoples who
form minority groups there,
also oppose DR.. Jagan's policies.
About 48 per cent Of the col
ony's half million people are
East Indian and AZ per cent
are Negroes with the Asians
having a greater birth rate.
Jungle Training Camps
The British retain control of
Guiana's defense and foreign
policy, but the country is run
by a constitution granted in
1851. This provided for an elec-
tive legislature with veto
powers reserved to a crown
appointed governor, Sir Ralph
Francis Gray. Full inde-
pendence, however. long has
been withheld with the United
Kingdom apparently determined
to wait until there is a nom
Communist government there.
A British official recalled
that there have been reports
oyer a period Of more than a
year that DR.. Jagan has pro-
vided jungle training camps for
Mr.. Castro, that there are
missile bases in the jungle back
country and that as many as
1000 Cuban tourists" have
been seen in British Guiana.
I'VE don't dismiss these re-
ports" he said, I'VE just don't
have any evidence that they
are true. The point is. we have
got troops there and we are
still in charge"
There is considerable COM
merce between Cuba and the
crown colony since British
Guiana supplies Cuba with rice.
However, the ships. in general.
come to the colony in ballast.
Guianese Called DOcile
The official said he could not
imagine who DR.. Jagan would
train with the reported weap-
ons from Cuba. The most dam
gerous elements there are men,
bers of the Guianese United
Youth movement. The official
said these are leather-jacketed
youths who "roar about on
motor bikes"
The Guianese, he said, are a
docile people who fear and dis
like the jungle interior and are
well content to live in the
heavily populated coastal zone
They would not be likely, he
added, to 60 into the back
country in revolt.
Revolt against whom?" he
asked. after all, they CDR
Jagan's supporters) are the
government. The average mem
Der Of Jagan's PIP party is
not attracted by Communist OIL
Marxist beliefs. There is such
a clique, however. and Jagan
is capable Of considerable mis-
chief just to remain in the
limelight."
DR.. Jagan visited Washing
ton in 1861 and, after calling
on the President. received some
United States aid largely In the
form of technical surveys oi
! the underdeveloped country.
Evening star., 1963-02-06
INTERPRETIVE REPORT
u. S.-Canada Rift to Linger

ons systems already in Can.
adian hands.
Delicacy Stressed
The need for Qualification as
seen here arose out of state
ments by MFR. Diefenbaker with
whose policies on these nuclear
arms issues the Kennedy ad-
ministratiop has disagreed.
Therefore by its nature the
statement had to take issue
with the Canadian Prime Min
.ister even though 1t carefully
avoided admitting that was
what was happening.
The idea of issuing q state
ment, informed officials say,
originated in the United States
Embassy in Ottawa and in the
State Department here after
q debate on nuclear weapons
in the Canadian Parliament.
The embassy is under direction
of Ambassador w. Walton But
terworth and the State Depart
ment policy control is under
stood to have been delegated
by Mr.. Rusk to Undersecretary
George w. Ball.
The issue essentially was
simple. Mr.. Diefenbaker had
long been reluctant to equip
Canadian forces with United
States nuclear weapons under
Joint United States Canadian
control. Mr.. Kennedy and his
advisers believed. however, that
the weapons are essential for
Canada's role in the defense
Of the North American contin-
ent and Western Europe. Can
adian units are part Of the
European NATO force.
Source Of Friction
The issue has been a source
of friction for at least a year.
A year ago, Mr.. Diefenbaker
told the Canadian Parliament
that Joint control Of nuclear
weapons could not be arranged
under existing United States
law Four days later. on March
/. Mr.. RuSk told a news con-
ference here that such arrange
ments could be worked out.
At that time, Mr.. Diefen-
baker had not taken public
offense and in fact the State
Department understood that
Canadian officials were pleased
with the way the matter had
been handled. This experience
was said to have been in the
MINDS OF the drarCers OF last
weeks statement.
Following the Cuban crisis
last October, Mr.. Diefenbaker
initiated secret talks with
United States representatives
on the possibility of obtaining
nuclear warheads. The talks
failed and the statement issued
here last week said bluntly that
Canada had failed to produce
any kind of practical plan to
solve the problem.
United States officials were
obviously convinced that re-
gardless Of the negotiations
Mr.. Diefenbaker in fact did
not want Canada to have
United States nuclear weapons,
lat least not for some time.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
ny the Associated Press

Admiral George w. Anderson
Chief Of Naval Operations
asked all hands in the Navy to-
day to knock off specializing
about why he wasn't appointed
to a second term,
In a statement addressed To
members OF the naval service
Admiral Anderson said he had
.noted-apparently referring Ia
published reports-that there
was speculation as to the pos
sible reasons for the decision Ia
limit my term 10 two years
Then he added:
II would, therefore. implorC
you to avoid any remarks, COM
ments, or assumptions relating
thereto.
Let me assure each and
every man In the naval service
that our Commander In Chief
has made clear to me not only
/ his confidence In our navaI
leadership, but his pride In oui
service II would, therefore. be
unbecoming OF the naval pro-
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
TV KEY PREVIEWS

Wide World of Sports Highlghts of the Pan American
Games in Sac Paulo Brazil with "a nations including
the United States competing feature the finals in track
and field events swimming and diving competitions gym
nastics and boxing pm. WMAI-7
The Defenders Everybody Else Is Dead" If Lawrence
Preston's personal life has become matter of moment,
you'll get the historical details here, E. G. Marshall
Preston falls in love with dvorcebound client Geraldine
Brooks $3.50 pm. WTOP-9.
HOOtenanny-Mram MakebaS unmiStakabe artistry makes
this weeks show must The students at the Univer-
sty of Virginia in Charlottesville, give her enthu
sastic reception she sings African chant and the
tender Love Tastes Like Strawberries" Miss Makeba
is Joined by the Chad Mitchell Trio for the shows most
exciting offering "Wimoweh" $3.50 pm. WMAL-7.
What's Going On Here?-Tune in and listen to band Of
incorrigbe English and American wits give you the low
down on the top of the Their barbS just as
keen as their innocent and little escapes their
gaze All their shots hit home, but Fifth avenue apart
ments English security burgess and McLean), and Gen.
de Gaulle are just a few of their best Though all
are pros John Bird Peter Cook and Roger Bowen are
positive delight Our hats off to everybody connected
with this satirical romp. pmo WTTG-5.
GunsmOke-Our bumbing Chester almost stumbeS into
hornets nest by counting friendly little widow, as Matt
Dillon saloon hostess Kitty, and Doc Adams watch him
make fool of himself 10 pma WTOP-9
Tonights Movies
$780, WRC -Saturday Night at the Movies Red Skies OF
of Montana The exploits of smoke jumper shock troops
of the United States Forest Service Richard Widmark
Jeffrey Hunter Q952).
:OO WTTG (5)-Payhouse Five. THE Hucksters Drama
about the advertising world Clark Gable Ava Gardner
Deborah Kerr Q947).
lll5 WMAL ()-Saturday Night Movie All the Brothers
were Valiant spectacular high sea adventure that pits
brother against brother Robert Taylor Stewart Granger
Ann Blyth 1889.
ll;l5 WTOP )-Saturday Night Show THE San Francisco
story" San Francisco newspaper editor asks young
miner to help him fight the citys vices Joel McCrea
Yvonne DeCarlo 1889.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
HOLLYWOOD
Sue Lyon to Wed
Her Producer
HOLLYWOOD CNANAl

HOLLYWOOD (NANA). -
Sue Lolita Lyon, all of II,
will marry Jimmy Harris, in
his mid-30s. Sues next picture,
II Want My Mother"-for Mr..
Harris. Glenn Ford fol-
lowed flaming-tressed RhOnda
Fleming to the hot Caribbean.
Not I hope because former
flame Rita HaywOrth rented a
house next to Glenn's in Bev-
erly Hills. Rock Hudson
will play himself and his faith
err in "Once There Were Two
Irishmen." And move over, Yul
Brynner. AS his own dad, Rock
will shave his head. THE old
boy" says Rock, will be bald"
Now that Ann SOthern
has sold her Bel Air home for
a quarter of a million, she
will be coming east again to
prepare for a play to debut at
the Westport County Playhouse.
Ann put all her beautiful fur
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
. By SHEILAH GRAHAM

niture in storage. And this has
depressed her. Tis true that
furniture sort of dies in stor-
age. Someone went to see
"Mutiny on the Bounty" and
sighed because only 30 people
were in the audience. The pic
ture cost $18 million. They
do say that Marlene Dietrich
and young Gardner Mckay
have flipped.
Allan MY Son the Folk Sing
er" Sherman is saying that his
voice is just right for the movie
version of "Fiorello." T.. . While
Bea Lille is in big demand for
all sorts of things since her
Show-stopper on the Jean Dali
rymple produced show last
week for Actors Equity. Jean
can put on better shows for less
money and in less time than
anyone l know.
asked Cesar ROmerO's best
girl, Elizabeth Allen, will you
and Cesar be getting married."
mot a chance" she replied,
there's too big an age diff
ference" How much?" ! want
ed to know. "27 years." replied
Elizabeth. 1t might not be too
much If Cesar were the marry
ing kind.
Even Elizabeth Taylor was
never accused of being an I'M
fit mother. And Carol Linley's
friends are worried about the
effect this charge will have on
her career when enraged hus-
band Mike Scotsman takes her
into court May Is. This battle
will be red, hot and blue.
This is where We came in.
Ingrid Bergman'S daughter,
born Pia LindstrOm, is request
ing that in future her pals
refer to her as Pia Lindstronl
And on no account use The
word prostitute" in referring
to Shirley MacLaine's prostie
role in Trina la Douce". This
is a front office order. Well
try our darndest.
Penguin scuttlebutt says that
Mickey Rooney is trying to con-
vince Jack Warner that he
could play the old Edward G.
Robinson gangster roles COM
plete with cigar chewing in the
contemplated remakeS. I know
someone who could do it even
b etter - Robinson's grand
daughter Francesca who does
an imitation that is Edward @.
to the life.
Lee Remick was obviously
too realistic in her drinking
scenes in Days of Wine and
Roses. She is getting letters
telling her for heavens sake to
get off the bottle.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
Anderson Asks Navy
To Stop Specializing

fcssion TO engage In any actions
or reactions which could do
damage to our service reputa-
tions-collective and individual
as we'll as to the prestige Of
the armed forces Of these
United States and OF our civil
ian leadership"
on Wednesday, President
Kennedy announced that Ad-
miral Anderson had agreed TO
accept a new position Of high
responsibility in the Govern
ment but did not say what the
post would be. Informed sources
have said Admiral Anderson
will get an important ambassa-
dorship.
When Mr.. Kennedy an
nounced Admiral Anderson
would be succeeded on August
/ by Admiral David l.. McDon-
aid, there was speculation that
the change was due TO Admiral
AndersonS strong stand in the
Tx warplane controversy. Ad-
miral Anderson was lined UP
against Secretary OF Defense
Mcnamara on that issue.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
NEWS OF MUSIC
BY JOHN HASKINS
Contributing Critic

Washington-Lee High School Choir
Florence Booker, director; Emma Lou
Diemer, composer. organist, accompa-
mist. At st. Andrews Episcopal
Church, Lorcom lane and Military
road. Arlington Program: Cantata
No. 4, Christ Lay in Deaths Dark
the Lord. Diemer; Meditation on
Forest Green, Diemer: Toccata and
FuRue in d Minor. Bach Lord, To
Thee Our Hearts Are Raised, Glinka;
have Longed For Thy Saving Health,
Byrd My Shepherd Will Supply
Ny Need arr THOMPSON; ! Sing
day, Sweelinck; Christ, To Thee Be
Glory Schuetz; Glory Be To God,
Berger; Hallelujah Chorus, from The
Messiah, Handel.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
NEWS OF MUSIC
Woshington-LeeC Choir
Is an Amazing Group

to amaze listeners by its dis
cipline and spirit, its ease in
varied repertoire, its compelling
unity in ensemble for a group so
young. There is nothing one can
do about the occasional tend
ency of adolescent voices to
boot, If they are female, or to
turn raucous around the edges
II they are male. Only time can
take care Of such problems, but
what Florence Booker coaxes
from them at times is astound-
ing.
poser working on a foundation
grant in the public schools OF
the area, played two Of her
organ compositions in a sub
stantial middle section Of the
program. Attractive works they
were, no strain about them. Her
performance of Bach Toccata
and Fugue In d minor was a
matter Of clean execution and
surface brilliance, taken at
tempt a little more brisk than
the tradition directs, with vir-
tually no moments of relexa-
ton to say the headlong flight
Of either section.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
WOOK-TV
Channel ID

3:30-Cartoon Time.
400 - Teenaram a Dance
Party
6:OO-Western Theater.
7:00-NeWS.
7:3O-Adventure Theater.
8:00-Talent Time.
S:3O-One Night Stand.
lO:OO-Topic. Educational.
10:30-News Final.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
BY the Associated Press

A Senate Republican study
has raised critical questions
about the United States race to
beat Russia in putting a man
on the moon.
Issued yesterday by Senator
Hickenlooper of Iowa, chair
man of the Senate Republican
Policy Committee, the study
said the moon shot and space
programs pose some basic, un-
pleasant questions"
1t said decisions must be
made on the basis of overall
benefit to the free world and
not on the adolescent desire to
beat the Russians in a space
race"
Top priority has been as
signed to Project Apollo. our
moon shot, designed to place
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
COP. Study Doubts
Value of Moon Shot

three astronauts on the moon
before the end of this decade, f"
the study said.
For momentary transcend
ence over the Soviet Union, we
have pledged our wealth, ma
tional talent and our honor"
The 19-page document then
listed arguments by both sup
porters and opponents of the
moon-shot program, with most
stress on the latter.
Because the moon is 100000
miles away. the study ques-
toned its value as a future
military or missile base. adding
ITO allow the Soviet Union
to dominate the atmosphere
100 miles above the earth's
surface while we seek to put a
man on the moon could be, in
the opinion of many, a fatal
error"
The study also questioned
the propaganda value claimed
for the moon shot.
Value Of Effort Questioned
Because DRIFTING the earth
by astronauts has become
practically routine, the study
said, world reaction to a moon
landing "is hardly worth sac
billion to get a few weeks Of
headlines" Latest Govern
ment estimates of the cost are
about $40 billion.
The survey compared costs
of the moon shot and space
programs with Federal outlays
for cancer and health research
education programs. and the
effort to meet increasing water
needs. II concluded:
Greater emphasis might be
placed on the multitude OF
problems we face here on
earth. Since our resources In
dollars and manpower are not
inexhaustible, the entire ques-
ton becomes a matter Of pri-
ority."
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
TODAY'S GOOD
MUSIC DIAL
800, WHFS-FM (1O2.3 Nc

800, WHFS-FM (1O2.3 Nc. }
Concert in Stereo. Suppe's
Pique Dame Overture
Bruckner's Symphony No. 7,
500, WGTB-FM 1901 Me-
Season Final. Special pres
entation of a new record
ing of Richard Wagner'S
"Siegfried."
7:O5, WGMS AM-FM $50 Kc
and 1895 Mc.)-Festival OF
Music. Works by Du Mont,
List, Satie, Canning, Men,
delssohn, Stravinsky, Res
pighi. Mozart, Ravel ano
others.
1915, WMAL-FM (107.3 Nc
10 Opera Stage. Ponchielli'S
La Gioconda." The Flor
ence Festival Orchestra and
chorus.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
Cooper Gets Pre-Orbito|
Medical Shokedown

called a "low-residue" diet for
several days in advance of the
mission date. This is a high
protein, well-balanced assort-
ment of foods which leave little
solid waste after digestion.
A system of tubing has VI en-
built into the space suit 10 aid
one of the important Aedical
studies to be made in-t'iGht,
This involves periodic sollec-
ton of urine samples in tails
that are time-marked. T h y e
will be analysed later for such
usual data as specific gra ity
and albumin content and par
ticularly for evidence of cal
cium.
There has been concern
among space medics about the
possibility of rehabilitation of
the skeleton during long periods
of weightlessness. This m E.
times happens to patients I'M
dergoing long bed rest, and some
data from three day and four
day Soviet space flights indi-
cate that the same might occur
in space.
Disqualification would not
only weaken the bony structure,
but might also contribute to
formation of kidney stones. If
such debility and disease is one
of the probable by-products of
long missions in space, doctors
want to start finding this out
now and taking steps to pro-
tect future aStronautS.
Other Data Devices
Standard measurements of
temperature. blood pressure,
heart action (electrocardio-
gram and breathing rate will
be made throughout the flight.
These will be compared wit h
similar records made peri
odically over the last four
years, as we'll as with readings
made this week end, next Tues
day morning and on an air.
craft carrier in the Pacific after
the flight ends Wednesday.
One innovation in medical in
strumentation is the use Of an
oral temperature measure de-
vice. An ordinary mercury
filled glass thermometer would
be dangerous and awkward TO
use, so a "solid-state" gadget
has been substituted. This is a
thermister embedded in latex
rubber.
Normally the gadget is slowed
in a special place inside the
helmet. When the temperature
is to be taken - four times
during flight-Maj. Cooper
will place the device under his
tongue. Body temperature will
be Sensed and transmitted au-
tomatically to a ground station
without the astronaut's having
to make any readings.
The remainder of the period
until launching, Maj. Cooper is
expected to stay on the security
controlled Cape Canaveral test
area, although it is conceivable
that he might leave briefly, as
Col. Glenn did for church serv-
ices.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
TODAY'S RADIO
HIGHLIGHTS
$3.50, WAMU-FM 1885 Me-

$3.50, WAMU-FM 1885 Mc.)-
Jazz from Canada. First OF
a series Of nine programs
Today: IVAN Landy Landry
and Trio and Vocalist Lucille
Dumont. From Montreal.
500, WAVA-FM (105.1 Nc. J.
Music Americana. Songs by
the New Christy Minstrels,
Charlotte Daniels and Pat
Webb. the Homesteaders
and Ron and Mama. Peter,
Paul and Mary, Glenn Var
brough, the Folk Singers
and the Clancy Brothers.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11

Festivals come out like the
spring flowers at this time of
year. Across the Potomac there
is one blooming in Arlington,
billed as THE Little Festival"
lat st. Andrews Episcopal
Church on Lorcom lane. This
event was a combination choral
and organ concert, and there
will be other events on Monday
and Tuesday evenings.
The Washington-Lee High
School Choir, II voices directed
by Florence Booker. continues
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
FIN Stations

-FM-1O7.3 Nc. tSteFeol-
II hooh to II pm.
NAMU-FM-ss.S Me- pm. 10 midnight.
W0l.FM-ss.1 Me.-s:eo an. 10 midnight.
WFAN.FM- 100 , Me- an. 10 midnight.
WW0c-FM-1o1.1 Me.-7l.hour operation.
WeMs FM-to3 5 Me.-Mohdsy-Ssturday, $50
an. to midnight; Sundays, an. 10
midnight.
R6Is.FM-s1.s Me.-1:3O to 10 pm. Mon..
FFi.; $50 to 4 PM Sunday, S to 10 Pm.
WxRA.FM-1oS.s Me.-12 noon to midnight
WMAl FM-1o1.3 Me.-S an. to las an.
WPecFM-s5.5 Me.-s an. TO Q pm.
WIMD-FM-s4.1 Me- an. 10 mIdnlsht.
WeAI FM-ss.S Me.-sam to mIanishI.
NAVAFM-1os.1 Me.-sS.m. to 1tpm.
WRc -FM-s3s Me.-s:3o an. to I an.
MT0P FM-s6.3 Me.-S:25 an. 10 7:1D an.
WASh.FM-s1.1 Ne.-1 an. 10 17:1s an.
NefBFM-so1 Me- to u pm. MSnd,t
Friday; . an. to pm. Saturday. noSD
10 nIdnisht Sunday.
wPRM-I4se ke.-0sYIisht ShIy.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11

OWENS INBOARD CABIN CRUISER
gB h.p., FLAGSHIP engine, Galley, head
Sleeps .. Fully equipped. Newly
painted. OIL. 4-S52O.
BOAT-l4 RUNABOUT windshield
and accessories, Good cond, Call
AID. 4-gl75.
NEW 1860 EVINRUDE OUTBOARD
$3.50 or will trade for light car OF
equal value. CY T-S36O.
OWENS, sedan. 33-ft. repowered last
year. Excel, cond. Call so. 5-6T66
OWENS 2l-ft. cabin cruiser inboard
81 O95 or best offer. CT. B-2412.
loft BOAT, bay built sleeps 4
straight Buick engine, fresh water
cooling, head must sell, EdRewater
Md. Woodland Beach. Shore Drive
loo. al No Beach, ask for MR.
BEAVER, yellow house In front OF No
Beach.
rs FIBERGLAs PEARSON. 40 h.p
Evinrude cleo, fun cover, new trailer
Ss05. DIXON HILL MARINE, b5i4
Livingston I'd. sc, 2iS-6i22. orer
rs LYMAN. $3.50. OXoN HILL
MARINE, hh4f Livingston I'd. sc
1lS-Bl11 Open Sunday, 1913
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
Aged Increasing

The ever-growing problem of
the aging in this country is
pointed up by tabulations
which show there are II million
persons over SIS, or about one in
10. In 1900 there we're three
million, or about one in rs.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1963-05-11
BY WILLIAM HINES
star staff Writer

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla.
May IL. - Astronaut Leroy
Gordon Cooper began a long
series of medical shakedowr
tests today in preparation fol-
his 600,000-mile ride through
space next week.
BY the time the 36-year-old
Air Force major blasts off in
his Atlas boosted space capsule
Mercury Project doctors will
have a full set of base line
data on him. This information
when compared with in flight
and post-flight readings, will
enable the medics to tell how
well he stood up under the or
deal of nearly a day-and-a-
half of weightleSsness.
The flight is now scheduled
for next Tuesday morning
Maj. Cooper's Atlas booster
rocket, No. bod. and the
tiny space capsule which he
named "Faith-7" are Graded in
the gantry of Launching Pad
No. IA here. This is the same
launch complex from which AS
tronaut John Glenn blasted to
world fame in February, 1862,
and from which Maj. Cooper's
other orbital predecessors, Scott
Carpenter and Walter Schirra,
were launched last May and
october, respectively.
Work the Controls
Maj. Cooper and his alter
nate or "back-up" pilot, Alan
B. Shepard, took turns yester-
day at the controls of Faith
during a flight stimulation
Purpose of this exercise. in
volving a full-scale mock We
hicle, was to check whether the
launch support equipment was
working properly.
The week end marked the
conclusion of AStronaut Coo
per'S stay in the plush Cocoa
Beach motel in which he and
his six Mercury teammates still
own a small but controversial
share. A deal to unload their
interest in the Cape Colony Inn
is said to be about completed.
In addition to Maj. Cooper,
three other aStronauts have
been using the Cape Colony as
their home-away-f from home
These are Comdr. Shepard,
Comdr. Schirra and Air Force
Mai. Donald K. Slayton, medi-
cally grounded member of the
team who now has the title of
Chief AStronaut."
One Of the reasons for getting
Maj. Cooper and Comdr. Shop
ard away from the fleshpots of
Cocoa Beach is so their diet
can be controlled for the period
remaining before the flight. If
for any reason Mai. Cooper is
unable to pass muster on
launch day Comdr. Shepard
will take his place. Therefore,
the alternate must be equally
ready to fly at all times.
Among other things, being
ready involves going on what is