Evening star., 1961-09-30
Rusk,Gromyko
Seen Agreeing
AT Talks Here
New York PurIeys
Believed Bringing
Issues Into Focus
BY JOHN M. HIGHTOWEE
Associated Press staff Writer


Associated Press Staff Writer
NEW YORK, Sept. 30.-Sec-
retary of State Rusk and Soviet
Foreign Minister Gromyko held
the last of their New York talks
on the Berlin crisis today with
some evidence they will be able
to agree on a negotiating for
mula at further meetings in
Washington.
Western diplomats said the
discussions here, though ap-
.parently inconclusive, had
served to define the issues more
clearly. They. also gave some
encouragement that Russia will
agree to acceptable arrange
ments for an East-West foreign
ministers conference later this
year.
The Western powers are re-
ported to have told Russia en-
phatically through these talks
that they have no intention of
negotiating with East Germany
over their rights to maintain
troops in West Berlin. They
also pressed Mr.. Gromyko for
an explanation of access to
West Berlin.
Kennedy Meeting Uncertain
Mr.. Gromyko went to Mr..
Rusk's suite in the Waldorf
Astoria Hotel at 1890 am.
United States officials said that
the talks would continue prob
ably well into the afternoon. AS
he arrived for the meeting Mr..
Gromyko said he did not know
if he would see President Ken
nedy while in Washington.
The future of the United
States, British and French gar
risons in West Berlin is one
of several critical issues dis
cussed by Mr.. RuSk and Brit
ish Foreign Secretary Lord
Home in separate talks with Mr..
Gromyko.
Mr.. RuSk and Mr.. Gromyko
expect to meet again in Wash
ington next week. Mr.. Rusk Is
returning to Washington and
Lord Home to London tonight.
Mr.. Rusk greeted Mr.. Gro
myko in the foyer of his 28th
floor quarters. The two men
had held two previous meetings
here since the middle of last
week and Lord Home also has
held two conferences with the
Soviet Foreign Minister.
Lord Home and Mr.. Rusk ar
ranged to meet following Mr..
Gromyko's departure. Lord
Home. in fact, had delayed his
departure from New York until
tonight to get a first-hand re-
port from Mr.. Rusk.
After Mr.. Rusk shook hands
with Mr.. Gromyko, the two
men stood together for a brief
picture-taking session. Photog-
raphers had them take posi-
tions in front of a set of dou-
BILE doors. Mr.. Gromyko smiling
said to the cameramen:
Makes a better background,
hey?"
always Gesturing"
Mr.. Rusk was asked to ges-
ture. Mr.. Gromyko remarked:
I'm always gesturing.'
When the two men went into
the living room, with its deco
ration of pre-revolutionary
Frenh Autographs, Mr.. Gro
myko said to Mr.. Rusk:
They look like very good
engravings."
Mr.. Gromyko sat on a couch
opposite a fireplace, Mr.. Rusk
in an easy chair. They pre-
pared to spend the next several
hours debating the Berlin crisis
together with their advisers.
Each man had two advisers
and each had an Interpreter.
Western diplomats saw little
chance of Mr.. Rusk and Mr..
Gromyko reaching an agree
ment at their meeting today
on a formula for formal nego-
tiationS on Berlin settlement.
Mr.. Rusk and Lord Home are
hopeful, however, that an
agreement can be reached by
next week end in the second
round of discussions in Wash
ington. Mr.. Gromyko plans to
leave for Moscow about Oc-
tober 8.
3 Major Aspects
The New York talks, which
actually mark the start of in
formal negotiations over a
compromise settlement, have
dealt with three major aspects
of the Berlin crisis:
/. Mr.. Rusk and Lord Home
have tried to impress upon Mr..
Gromyko that the Western
powers will fight if necessary to
defend West Berlin and its
access routes against Com
munist encroachment. Some
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