Arizona sun., 1961-11-09
Over Coffee
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| | asked Mr.. MunammaQ II ne
made any distinction between
white people, that is, good or bad,
Anglo-saxon, French, Jewish or
Russian.
"These are old world terms
you are using, and we can't think
about outmoded names and speci-
.lfications. This is all based on an
old Interpretation and national
Itechniques. All white men ar e
brothers and alike, have preyed
upon the liberties of darker men.
j We must break completely with
the past ideas of human slavery
and develop new concept OF
human freedom.
1.-The only difference is that
some whites such as the British
have been very diplomatic about
their slavery ideas. On the other
hand, Americans have been open,
brutal and direct about their en-
slavement of Negroes and In
dianS." !"
Since it has been said that Is
lam rejects the Muslin move
ment 1 told him that the public
would like to know if they are a
direct branch of the oriental Is
lam.
Religion has been the same
from the days of Abraham, Isaac
and Jacob. The Holy Koran, which
was given to Mohammad, is the
same kind of revelation given to
all other prophets.
Officially, oriental Islam does
not reject the Muslin movement.
Quite on the contrary they SYM
pathize with and approve our
goals. i have Travelled through
out all the centers of Islam and
have everywhere found support
to our efforts in the United States.
/ have many official letters from
eastern governments approving
of what we are trying to do with
the. American Negro
I said to Mr.. M o h a m m a d,
"Since the world is moving to-
ward some kind of unity and har-
mony Of races why does your
movement teach the complete
segregation of Negroes and
Whites?"
He said, II would not state that
we believe in racial isolation. We
only believe that in order for the
Originals (ThiS is the Muslim'S
designation for Negro), to develop
their own culture properly and
come to a state of self-realization
they must temporarily divorce
themselves from the white man
and fully build up their own cul-
tures and economy We do not be-
lieve that this injustice, which is
no longer plaitable to us, can be
eracicated as long as we live
|,eradicated as long as we live
within the American white mans
|'culture:'' TF ',gsF. f5i 81
This was the natural opening
to ask my question about what
kind of a plan he had for Originals
in America. --au4As e
1--WE plan to ask the government
/ for an outright allotment Of sew
eral states for the exclusive use
Of Originals. We want good and
desirable land where we will have
complete freedom to develop our
way of life.
am not prepared to state ex-
actly what states we desire, but
when the government shows an
interest in this plan / will state
where and how much territory
should be allotted. When 80 per-
cent of our group is agreeable to
the idea the government will be
notified.
"We feel that we are entitled
to this because we have given the
white man 300 years of devotion
and service, practically as a gift.
Therefore, we will ask from him
the same gift in return-land,
equipment, money, resources and
technicians. Each year we will
ask for these things, not on loan
basis, but an outright gift basis,
until we become fully independ-
ent. If, after a period of 20 to 25
years, we have not succeeded we
should all be shot by the army of
the United States"
Since he had a specific plan l
asked him rs there any spot on
this plapet where this plan is be-.
ing exempted as you envision it
for u. S. Az"
obviously not" he said. "At
no point can we see where this
plan is being carried out. 1t is a
new plan and new idea. l can
not see it in Liberia or Ghana or
any other location. If the Negro
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