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The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

Author Ernest Heming-
ways conversion to Cath
olicism and his participa-
ton in the Church re-
main clouded in mystery.
Hemingway, 61-year-old NO
bel and Pulitzer prize-winning
writer of adventure stories,
was buried July g. in the
public cemetery of Ketchum,
Idaho, following prayers Of
fered by a Catholic priest.
Hemingway died July q
from the blast of a 12-gauge
shotgun in his country home
in Ketchum. Blaine County
Coroner Ray McGoldrick said
no inquest would be held. He
said the death certificate
reads: "Self-inflicted gunshot
wound in the head" Mrs.
Hemingway told news nj e n
July 81 that it was an acct
dent.
Father Robert j. Waldo.
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

Of the House Education and
Labor Committee on the bill
1t approved to extend the 1858
National Defense Education
Act.
The bill CHR. 1904 carries
a provision for long-term Fed
eral loans to parochial and
other private schools for con-
struction of some nonreligious
facilities.
THE p-EMocRAT.coP ex-
change made it apparent that
the major battle shaping up
in the House over proposals
to grant us. funds to public
schools also will range over
the so-called private school
bill. A showdown may take
place later this month.
The 1858 act made loans
available to private, nonprofit
schools to purchase certain
teaching equipment and to re-
model rooms to commoda
the equipment.
The new measure proposes
broadening these loans to
help finance construction of
classrooms and other facilities
used in science, mathematics
and modern foreign languages
the three fields aided by
the original loan program.
IN ADDITION, the revision
also proposes to lend funds
for construction of physical
fitness facilities, for class
rooms to teach English to
students whose primary Ian
guage is not English and for
lunchrooms and equipment.
A total of 1915 million
would be set aside for the
three-year program. All loans
would have to be repaid with
in 40 years at an interest
rate high enough to make the
government break even.
The loans could not be used
to finance construction of
facilities for general use or
for religious purposes.
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

sister at Ashtabula, Ohio,
Miss Gillars will take up resi-
dence at the convent and
commence preparation for her
teaching duties this fall. =
Mother Assumpta said &C.
ceptance of her assistance in
the work of the Sisters is to
be viewed as a manifestation
of the practice of Christian
charity toward Miss Gillars. A
requirement of her release on
parole was that she have a
job which would meet the re-
quirements Of the parole
board.
The nun pointed out that
this opportunity will give
Miss Gillars a chance to serve
the religious Community and
demonstrate, in the privacy
Continued on Page q
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was permitted to offer before
being forced out of a province
to Havana.
The priest was stationed in
a heavily populated area. Now
there are no priests in the
area. There, too, reside a
young couple who planned to
be married and leave Cuba,
but illness in the girls family
prevented their departure.
When the militia escorted
the priest to the railroad sta
ton, thousands lined the
streets as he passed. In the
crowd were this young couple
and several other couples. AS
the priest passed them, the
couples joined hands and the
priest witnessed their mar
riages.
other information d
many churches now have only
one Mass on Sundays, while
other churches have none.
Priests are holding confer
ences with members of the
laity, instructing them in how
to carry on without the serv-
ices of a priest.
Another source said food
shortages continue to plague
the country. Meat is rationed.
Some canned meat is coming
to Cuba from Russia, but most
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

Convent, 4567 Olentangy River
Road. She will serve as a Ian
guage teacher at the convent.
Mother Assumpta said the
Order viewed with favor Miss
Gillars' request and the rec
ommendation of Federal au-
thorities that she be afforded
an opportunity to spend the
remaining years of her life
in the Lords service. Her
background in languages,
music, and cultural arts
should be put to good use
at the convent.
MISS CELLARS, so, was re-
leased from the Federal
w 0 m MS R%eformatory at
Anderson, w. Va. last Monday
after serving II years of a
10 to 80 year sentence. She
was converted to Catholicism
during her stay in prison.
After a short visit with her
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14
St. Patrick
Choir on TV

The Mems Choir of st.
Patrick Church, junction City,
will sing the Mass televised
10 am, Sunday on Chan. 4
FIR. Robert Metzger, assistant
pastor, st. Leo Parish, Column
bus, and native of Junction
City, will be the celebrant.
The choir will be directed
by Leonard Weigand.
The program is presented
thorugh the cooperation Of
the Council of Catholic Men
and WLW-C. FIR. Hugh Murphy
is producer.
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

luncheon meeting. 1t outlined
the new spiritual favors which
have been extended to mem
bers of the Sierra Clubs by
the Holy Father.
Included are a plenary in
diligence for all Sierra mem
bers taking part in a re-
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14
CONGO BISHOP:
Urges Leaders To Unite;
Hits Corruption, Ambition

Archbishop Mojaisky Per-
relli heard the sermon. Prom
inent in the audience also
were President Joseph Kasa-
vubu, Premier Joseph leo and
the country's senators and
deputies.
Bishop Malula said the ami
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

has been appointed General
Program Chairman.
French is a Past Grand
Knight of Marian Council
1864 and has served that
Council in other capacities
including Deputy Grand
Knight and Youth Program
Chairman. While a Trustee
he was active in the forma-
ton of the Greater Columbus
Chapter, Knights of Column
bus, and is Chairman Of the
Columbus Diocesan Track
and Field Meet.
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14
BISHOP DISPUTES
WEIGH CHARGE

ST. PAUL, Mimi, NC =
A Catholic Bishop publicly
disputed a charge that Pro-
testant ministers form "the
largest single body" of COM
munists in this country.
The charge was made by
Robert Welch, head of the
John Birch Society.
Archbishop William o.
Brady of st. Paul termed Mr..
WEIGHS charge absurd"
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

Cubans would rather go hun.
cry than eat it.
ONE COMMENT WAS: No
one can eat the Russian cam
ned food which is packed in a
very heavy oil. They say some
of it is bear meat and some
is seal meat. When you open
the can, the odor kills you"
The Russians also sent a ship
ment of condensed milk to
Cuba. When some Cubans
opened the milk, they found
messages in Spanish which
read:
Don't be fooled. We are
slaves"
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

treat and further partial in
dulgences to those who re-
cite the Sierra Prayer for Vo-
cations.
HERMAN JACOBS is presi-
dent of the Columbus chapter
of Sierra. Monsignor Paul j.
O'Dea is chaplain.
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

IN HIS NEW POST, he will
head up the Council Activity
program of 239 Councils
throughout the state with a
membership Of over 10000.
Roessler, a Past Grand
Knight of GAINESVILLE Council
sos, and a former Faithful
Navigator Of the Fourth De-
gree, K. of c., he presently
serves his Council as one of
its trustees, an office he has
held for five years.
AS General Program Chair
man he will coordinate the
Six Point Program activities
of the state councils.
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

BRING CHRISTIAN Thought to Movies, Pope
Urges Page z.
WASHINGTON LETTER - Page 3.
UNKNOWN CHURCH in Latin America -
Page q.
LOCAL IRisHMEN: Here's Your Chance, See
Letters Page A..
NAME COACHES at Three Diocesan High Schools
Page 6.
ENTERTAINMENT - Page 10.
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

versary brought ''joy to an in
dependent country, but a
country violently shaken End
seeking its perfect equilib-
ruin"
YOU HAVE BEEN elected
by the people and for the
Continued on Page .
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

Under the public accommo-
dations law, persons who wish
to make a complaint must file
affidavits with the anti-dis-
elimination division of the st.
Louis Council on Human Re-
lations within 80 days after
being refuserd service at a
place of public accommoda-
ton.
A section of the law states
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

that "any persons violating
any of the provisions of this
ordinance shall be guilty of a
m~isdemeanor and shall be
fined not less than $25 nor
more than $780,"
TWO PETITIONS to halt
Indignation have been filed in
court. One seeks a temporary
restraining order that would
Continued on Page .
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14
NO MAYOR INCIDENTS:
City's Anti-Bias
Law Takes Effect

ST. LOUIS This city's law against bias in public
places went into effect quietly despite rumors that it
would touch off racial incidents.
NO MAJOR DISTURBANCES occurred, and only
four incidents of alleged violations were reported to
police in the six days after the law went into effect
IIuly II.
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

The House committee ap.
proved the NDEA revision on
June n by a 10 to IL vote,
with all the committees
Democrats and one Republican
in the majority.
Continued on Page p
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14
PRIESTS DEPORTED:
PRIESTS DEPORTED:
Cubans Beginning
Priestless Life

NEWARK, NC-Cuban Catholics now are begin
ming to find out what life without a priest is like.
Information which filtered here through the Red
Security screen of Castroland detailed that more than
10000 persons assisted at the last Mass one priest
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14
CONVERT TO FAITH:
Axis Sally Plans
To Work Here

Mother Mary Assumpta, Provincial of the Sisters
of the Poor Child Jesus, announced Tuesday that Mil
dred E. Gillars, known as "Axis Sally" when she
broadcast for Berlin radio in World War II, has been
accepted as a lay teacher at Our Lady of Bethlehem
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14
COP PREDICTS VETO:
Dems Praise Loans
For Construction
To Private Schools

WASHINGTON, NC = Democrats say the House
proposal for special purpose aid to private schools
balances similar benefits for public schools, but OPP
posed Republicans predict a veto of the measure.
Their differences are drawn in the formal report
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14
FRENCH. ROESSLER
FRENCH, ROEssLER
State &c Posts
To Diocesan Men

Two Diocesan men have been appointed to posi-
tons on the Ohio State Council, Knights of Columbus,
by State Deputy Thomas M. Dowd, Kenton.
Lewis NJ. French, Columbus, has been named
Activity Chairman and Harold w RoeSsler, GAINESVILLE,
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14

Columbus Sierra Club members were honored
last week by . visit from a member of the Pontifieal
Office for PriestIy Vacations. Msgr. Giuseppe Nebio-
10, above, is greeted by Serran Pat West. who arrang-
ed for the visit and Carl S~peckner, resident manager
of Lake Central AirIines in Columbus and a member
of St. Plus X parish, as he arrived in Columbus from
Minneapolis. Msgr. Nebiolo attended as the of
ficiaI Vatican observer for the National Sierra Club
meeting in Minneapolis. The local serrans held a
special luncheon at The Hilton TO honor Msgr.
Nehiolo.
The Catholic times. [volume] (Columbus, Ohio) 1951-current, 1961-07-14
Mt. Carmel
Marks 18th

The Diamond Jubilee
of Mt. Carmel Hospital
will be marked by a Pom
fifieaI Low Mass, eeie.
brafed by Bishop clar-
enee 9. Issenmann, ut $50
am, Sunday in tha con-
vent chapel.
Father George A. Full
cher, Editor in Chief of
The Catholic Times will
deliver the sermon.
Davis, r. D. Lach, S. P. Pas
Richa, S. X. Rao, j. r. Snyder
and R. v. Tinongson, residents
in Internal medicine, Doctors
T. F. Herwig, H. j. Serrano,
D. E. Weltner, residents in
general practice and Doctors
C. o. Andarsio, D. F. Briggs
and r. A. Weisenburger, res
idents in surgery.
The new interns include:
Doctors j. A. Baker, K. C.
Bogart, D. B. Bruno, j. A.
Dorgan, j. M. Forman, D. L
Gheen
Doctors w. r. Griffin, Jr.
G.. L. GudakunSt, E. E. Huston,
Continued on Page D
Evening star., 1961-06-15

Claudia Mcneil, seen here only few weeks
ago in leading role in "a RaiSin in the Sum-"
plays the same part in the movie version of
the Lorraine Hansberry play. With Sidney
Broadway, the film is at the Trans-Lux
Theater.
Evening star., 1961-06-15
WHERE
AND WHEN
Current Theater Attractions
And Times Of Showing

Stage
National Theater-"The Mu-
sic Man; $3.50 pm.
Carter Barron AmphitheateT
Harry Belafonte, B Miriam
Makeba, The Vocal Four; $3.50
pm.
Screen
AmbassadOr-"The Last SUM-
set; 1:10. 3:15, 5:25, 1880 an6
9:40 pm.
Apex - THE Big Deal or
Madonna Street; /, 2:45, ABS
6:15, 8 and $50 pm.
CapitOI-"Wild in the Coun-
try; 11:35 am, 1:40, $40
$40, 7:45 and 9:45 pm.
Dupont-'Never on Sunday;
/, 2:50. 4:4o. $3.50. 8:25 anc
10:15 pm.
Keith's-"The Last Time
Saw Archie; 1905, 2:4o, $40
7:45 and 10:15 pm.
MacArthur-"A French Mis-
tresS"; $3.50 and 9:45 pm
Sneak preview; 8 pm.
Evening star., 1961-06-15

"The Last Time I Saw
Archie" Keith's new comedy,
is for those unable to resist
films about nonconformist types
who manage to defeat "the
system" in the Army.
There have been so many of
these that one might we'll won
der how the manpower of this
country ever was whipped into
the military machine that won
World War lat least nomi-
nally.
Keith's film is a product of
Jack Webb's Mark VII outfit.
1t presents Webb not merely
as a costar of Robert Mitchum
but also as the director of "The
Last Time I Saw Archie" It's
conspicuous shortcoming is not
merely that the comic point is
familiar but that Webb's direc-
ton allows whatever novelty
it offers to become blurred.
The element Of novelty is
fugitively visible. however. 1t
is to be found in the fact that
the group Mitchum master
minds is not standard military
material. It's members are
overage (but not very avia-
ton enthusiasts recruited for
special service as non-combat
| pilots.
When, on second thought,
the Air Force abandons the
idea, the squadron, still in pri-
Yates uniforms, is a white ele-
phant unit with which no one
knows what to do. Gradually
it becomes mistakenly identi-
fled as an intelligence group
with smooth Pvt. Mitchum
assumed to be a disguised
major general.
Operating under this mis-
apprehension, Mitchum uses
his talent for havoc-making to
virtually take over the All
Evening star., 1961-06-15

Metropolitan - '"The Last
Sunset; 11:15 am, 1:20, 1925,
$50, 1885 and GAS pm.
Ontario - 1.-THE Pleasure Of
His Company; l, 3, $40, 7:35
and 9:55 pm.
Palace-"Ladies Man; 1920
am, los, 2:50, 4:35, 500, 8:05
and $50 pm.
Playhouse - 'Mein Kampf",,
HAS am, 1:45, 3:45, 5:45, T:45
and S:45 pm.
Plaza Love and the
Frenchwoman";; IL, 2:25. 4:40
6::55 and 9:20 pm.
Town - ION the Double;
IL, q, 4. s, 8 and 10 pm.
Warner - "Spartacus"; 8:15
pm.
Evening star., 1961-06-15
Fred Astaire and Lilli Palmer

Fred AStaire and Lilli Palmer
should be lingering a long time
on the screen Of the Ontario
theater where they opened
today in THE Pleasure of His
Company"
They are at work, of course,
on that imperishably attractive
comedy theme, the smart, rich,
brittle divorced couple reunited
briefly and brightly on the
occasion of their daughters
wedding. AS those who saw
the original play will recall
this is a delightful variation on
the theme. Also, beyond the
warmth and wit of the stars
the film is set In San Fran
cisco which looks more like
paradise in every new movie
shot in color.
On this dazzlingly appro-
pirate, life-size stage George
Seaton has directed 1.-THE
Pleasure of His Company
with complete appreciation oi
its balance of sophiStication
and sentiment.
Astaire'S debonair Pogo
Poole, international playboy
losing the race to time, lone
illness and boredom, is the
character around whom the
merriment Of the comedy re-
wolves. Invited to his daugh-
.ter's wedding, but not really
expected, he turns up at the
home Of his happily remarked
wife, takes possession Of the
house, captures his daughter
with his easy cosmopolitan
charm, and attempts to break
up the marriage.
These activities represent
comedy's blithest and most
engaging figure, but only pro.
vided he meets with worthy
competition. This AStaire doe'
in Miss Palmer as his ex-wife
Years ago, she learned the
counters to all his tricks anc
she uses them to foil the lat.
ter-day theft Of the daughter
she reared to avoid the ire
sponsible male type.
AS so many other plays anc
films, this is a contagiously
gay duel. full of guile, bright
dialogue, and just enough
sentimental regressions to pro-
vide the necessary wistfu
contrast.
Director Seaton, who has
the knack of getting the pre-
cisely shaded performance
comedy demands, is successful
here from the top to the bot
tom of his cast. Beyond the
polished urbanity of AStairt
and Miss Palmer, he gets
effective acting from Debbit
Reynolds as "Pogo's" pretty
easily hypnotized daughter
Tab Hunter as her rich but
earthly cattleman fiance, ant
Gary Merrill as the politel!
befuddled second husband o1
Miss Palmer. Charles Ruggle'
is another engaging type al
Miss Palmer's Scientifically wis
father whose comments on tht
succeeding generations behav,
ior add another cheerful not
to "The Pleasure of His Com
pany."
1t should be providing a 10
of people with a lot of pleas
ure for a long time.
Evening star., 1961-06-15
THE PASSING SHOW
Ontario Gets a Hit,
But Keith's q Miss
By JAY CARMODY
Drama Critic Of The Star

"THE PLEASURE OF HIS COM
lease Of Q william Perlberg produc-
tion, directed by George Seaton,
screenplay BY Samuel Taylor from
the stage play by Taylor and Cor
nelia Otis Skinner. In Technicolor
at the Ontario Theater.
The Cast
Biddeford Pogo" Poole Fred Astaire
JeSsica Poole Debbie Reynolds
Katharine Dougherty-- Liln Palmer
James Daugherty Gary Merrill
Roger Henderson Tab Hunter
Mackenzie Savage Charlie Ruggles
Toy Harold Fong
Evening star., 1961-06-15

Force post, a funny enough
idea that simply does not work
out as very funny. The explana-
ton for this would seem to be
that Director Webb had in
mind one of those underplayed
BritiSh-type comedies.
Unfortunately, he lacks the
quiet, droll touch for this sort
of thing. The effect is to leave
a name cast and some talented
players in mid-air and the
moviegoer in mid-ennui.
Evening star., 1961-06-15
Films of More Than Routine Merit

H'HS VI ''OTS y TUT NOUtHTS VISTTI
THE APARTMENT"-Billy Wlder'S Oscar-wnning joke
about seductiOn Shirley MacLane, Jack Lennon.
ELMER GANTRY-Burt LancaSter's Academy Award pOr-
trayal Of Sinclair Lewis fireand birthstone evangelist
"GONE WITH THE WIND"-LOng ago it exhausted its
vocabulary Of superlatives
"THE VIRGIN SPRING"-AnOther of Ingmar Bergmans
slice-Of-life dramas stark, but moving.
"PEPE"-Cantinas stars in a comedy marathon
Evening star., 1961-06-15

Trans-Lux-"A RaiSin in the
Sum; 10:45 am. 1855, 3:05,
Sis, 7:25 and 9:35 pm.
UptOwn-'Exodus";; 8 pm.
Evening star., 1961-08-31

man and very popular figure
to boot.
The benching may not last
for long, anyway. 1t will be re-
membered that Vernon, himself
benched Green a while back,
not for lack of hustle, but fol
Humphreys admitted deficien-
cieS as catcher.
I'VE were in a losing streak
then, too," Green said last night
land I came off the bench and
hit a grand-Slam home run to
break that streak"
He did, too. His clout beat
the Yankees, 5-4, and on that
day he was the biggest hero in
town. Everybody thought that
the ball, which sailed into the
leftfield bleachers, had hustle
written all over it.
Evening star., 1961-08-31

Green enjoys missing those
balls? He knows he isn't the
greatest catcher in the world,
but he tries"
=
Woodling, himself, is exempt
from criticism. He is one of
the greatest on the club" Do
herty said. He's tried to light
a fire under them. Maybe he
can't run and maybe his arm
is not strong, but he gives 100
per cent on that field. He
never quits.
Long hasn't played a reg
ular season in two years." Do
herty went on. Maybe it's
too much for him. Maybe he
does hustle in his own way"
Long got no such qualified
compliment in the official
statement, which quoted the
general:
I'VE owe the fans of Wash
ington something better thar
the brand of baseball we played
last night. 1 admit that, wher
a club gets into a slump, it is
difficult to get back to the WIN
ming column. I am never critica,
of a player who hustles anc
makes mistakes, but if we are
to deserve the confidence o1
the public. we must not con-
done those who apparently
adopt a don't care attitude"
4 4 4
The question that awaits fu-
ture answering concerns how
much influence the genera
plans to WELD in team doings
Finley has been accused of man.
aging the Athletics by long dis.
tance practically since the day
he bought them. So far, Que.
sada has left the managing tt
Vernon, a competent baseball
Evening star., 1961-08-31
CIV Launches
Grid Practice
InMorningFOg
By DICK SLAY
Star Staff Writer

George Washington Univer-
Sity's football team swept the
mists off Columbia Island soon
after sunup and began pre-
season practice today with a
brisk, two-hour session to the
accompaniment of rush-hour
traffic along Memorial park
way.
All nine Southern Conference
schools started workouts today,
with about $50 candidates re-
porting. Forty-four answered
Coach Jim Camps opening
whistle at CAT am. on the new
practice field near Columbia
Island Marina.
Guard Ron Cindrich, a start
ing player last fall as a sopho-
more, still is recovering from a
shoulder operation in the spring
and was not in uniform this
morning, creating at least a
temporary shortage at that
position.
Fullback Morris Sutter, a 200
pound sophomore, and Center
Walt Ligenza operated at guard
today along with the regulars.
George Stone, a 23-year old
sophomore who played at Boil
ing Air Force Base, moved into
Ligenza's center spot for the
time being. He is running be-
hind Len GunSior.
CIV, like the other conference
schools, will work out twice a
day for 13 days in preparation
for the opening game the night
of September Is at Florida
State. Temperatures in the 90s
were expected to greet the
Colonials for this afternoons
session.
Evening star., 1961-08-31

Mickey Vernon, it sounded like
Quesada was the chief author,
Quesada, like Charles Fin
ley, owner of the Athletics, is
vulnerable. Neither has a base
ball background. And the
players in Quesada's hire claim
the action was bush"
I'VE don't blame Mickey
one player said.
What does Quesada know
about baseball?" another asked.
you don't do things Ike
that" another said. IF any,
body has a chewing out COM
ing, you give it to him in
private"
The statement contain e d
these terms: Apparent lndif-
ference. Desire" Hustle. "
"Don't-care attitude" AS the
front office sees it, Green, Long
and Tasby are endowed with
the first and aforementioned
characteristics and lack the
middle two.
Hustle or lack of it in a pro-
fessional ballplayer is about as
easy to prove as sinful
thoughts. Ballplayers gener-
ally work their jobs with littAe
show of emotion anyway. They
do not gather before the big
game to light bonfires and sing
pepsongs.
They talk about hustle, do
they?" says Gene Woodling,
who is club player representa-
tive. Il noticed they didn't
say anthing about it that Sun
day afternoon when they made
us play in pouring rain. We
never played under such condi-
tions before. But everybody
did his best.
They say Green doesn't
hustle, or Tasby or Long?
don't buy that. Do they think