Evening star., 1960-10-09

lucky, was reported by his
staff to believe he had done
very well but that Vice Presi-
dent Nixon has overcome his
death-mask appearance and
f1rst-round handicap of a
nervous sweat. So Senator Ken
nedy called it a draw.
His associates, however, said
he won hands down. And tele-
grams and phone calls to him
said the same.
In fact, kilograms of ap-
proval are rolling in at a faster
rate than after the first debate.
Pierre Sallinger, Senator Ken
nedy's press secretary, said in
Kentucky. Most messages, he
said, are coming to the Sen
ator's Washington Office and
home.
The messages were not
counted, but Mr.. Sallinger said
they were about 9-1 in favor
Of Senator Kennedy.
Nixon Confident
In Wisconsin, Mr.. Nixon
called it a good. sharp de-
bate, not dull" He thought he
had done very we'll and his
staff said he won in a walk.
So did hundreds of persons who
wrote or called Mr.. Nixon after
the debate.
The first fan to call in after
Mr.. Nixon returned home, in
cidentally, was President Eisen-
hover, according to Nixon press
aides. The President was re-
ported to be quite enthusiastic.
But the Associated Press re-
porters who reached for tele-
phones in 10 scattered cities
Immediately after the tele-
vision program ended Friday
night couldn't find a single
vote that either candidate had
won.
The reporters called 233 per-
sons in order to find an even
100 who had watched the full
debate. Eighty of the 100 said
their opinions of the two can
didates remained exactly where
they were before they had
turned on their sets. The other
20 said they were now more
sure than ever that their orig
inal choice of a candidate had
been a good one.
Changes in First Poll
A similar poll after the first
debate found two persons who
said they had switched their
allegiance and 35 who said
their opinions had been
strengthened.
In both polls. the Associated
Press said, more perSon
reached favored Senator Ken
nedy.
Despite the apparent in
ability of the two debaters to
do much more than please their
own supporters. the two camps
continued to be enthusiastic
about this new campaign tech
niQue. And three Democratic
Senators urged the networks
yesterday to- arrange a fifth
debate.
Senators Monroney Of Okla
homa, PaStore of Rhode Island
and Magnuson of Washington
suggested a debate be held
about a week before the No
venber 8 election. The last
debate now is scheduled for
October 81.
Fifth Debate Asked
Nixon people have said the
Vice President wants to be free
during the final 18 days to
campaign vigorously in the
traditional way.
But in kilograms to the four
networks, the Senators said:
I'VE believe that in the in
terest of continuing discussion
Of the issues, there should be a
fifth debate around Novem-
ber 2.
I'VE feel the first two de-
bates have been extremely
fruitful and of great value to
the people of our country. >
There was no word yet from
the two camps on this proposal
The happy Nixon staff was
showing reporters stacks o1
kilograms received after Fri
days debate. All but a few
were enthusiastic.
Telegram Messages
The tone of most of the mes
sages was indicated by a Hous-
ton viewer who said, "You
clobbered the slob."
A man from Buffalo, N. Y.
wired simply: Congratulations
Champ"
A good share of the messages
urged Mr.. Nixon to take ar
even more aggressive stance.
From Richmond, Va, came 6
plea Ito give Mr.. Kennedy more
and more of Mr.. Truman'l
medicine"
One Republican in Waccebuc
N. Y, was still disillusioned
Bravo on your role as Mr.
Me-Too," he wired. "You arr
losing magnificently. We coult
win with Goldwater."
Democratic National Chair
man Jackson said Senator Ken
nedy won debate No. 2 by a,
even wider margin than h
won the first. Democratic Sen
ator Mansfield called it Ken
nedy by decision"
Republican Chairman Nor
ton said Mr.. Nixon was "clea
winner" and called Senate
Kennedy "the apostle of ap
peaSement."
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