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Evening star., 1960-09-27
Support for COP.
Views Contended

Mr. NixOn-Well, obviously,
my views are a little different.
First of all, I don't see how it
is possible for one-third of a
body, such as the Republicans
have in the House and the
Senate, to stop two-thirds if
the two-thirds are adequately
led. I would say, too, that when
Senator Kennedy refers to the
action of the House Rules Com
mittee, there are eight Demo-
Gratis on that committee and
four Republicans. It would
seem to me again that it is
very difficult to blame the four
Republicans for the eight Dem
ocratS not getting something
through that particular COM
mittee. I would say further
that to blame the President and
ms veto power for the in
ability of the Senator and his
colleagues in this special ses-
sion misses the mark.
When the President exercises
the veto power, he has to have
the people behind him, not
Just third of the Congress.
because let's consider it. if the
majority of the members of
the Congress felt that the par
ticular proposals were good is
sues, the majority of those who
were Democrats, why didn't
they pass them and send them
to the President and get a
veto and have an issue?
The reason why these par
ticular bills in these various
fields that have been mentioned
were not passed was not
because the President was
against them; it was because
the people were against them.
1t was because they were too
extreme, and I am convinced
that the alternate proposals
that I have. that the Repub-
licans have in the field of
health, in the field of educa-
ton, in the field of welfare. be-
cause they are not extreme,
because they will accomplish
the end without too great cost
Evening star., 1960-09-27
Public Backing
Seen Necessary

Mr.. Fleming-Mr. Vice Pres
ident, I take it then you be-
HeUe that you could Dork bet
ter tDith Democratic mnjoritieS
in the House and the Senate
than Senator Kennedy could
tOork NTH the Democratic
nldjoritieS in the House and
the Senate.
Mr.. NixOn-I would say this,
that we, of course, expect to
pick up some seats in both the
House and the Senate. We
would hope to control the
House, to get a majority in
the House this election; we
cannot, of course, control the
Senate.
I would say that a President
will be able to lead, a President
will be able to get his program
through to the extent that he
has the support Of the country,
the support of the people.
Sometimes we get the opinion
that in getting programs
through the House or the Sem
ate, it is purely question of
legislative finagling and all
that sort of thing. 1t isn't
really that.
Whenever a majority of the
people are for a program, the
House and the Senate respond
to it, and whether that House
and Senate in the next session
is Democratic or Republican,
if the country will have voted
for the candidate for the pres
idency and for the proposals
that he has made, I believe
that you will find that the
President, if it were a Repub-
lican, as it would be in my case,
would be able to get his pro-
gram through that Congress.
Now, I also say that as far as
Senator Kennedy's proposals
are concerned, that again the
question is not simply one of a
presidential veto stopping pro-
grams. You must always re-
member that a President can't
stop any thing unless he has
the people behind him, and the
reason President Eisenhower'S
vetos have been sustained, the
reason the Congress does not
send up bills to him which they
think will be vetoed is because
the people and the Congress,
the majority of them, know the
country is behind the President.
Evening star., 1960-09-27
Health Proposal
Provides Choice

Our health program, the one
that Senator Javits and other
Republican Senators, as well as
I, supported, is one that pro-
vides for all people over IS who
want health insurance the op-
portunity to have it if they
want it. 1t provides a choice
of having either Government
insurance or private insurance,
but it compels nobody to have
insurance who does not want
it, His program under social
security would require every
body who has social security to
take Government health in
Surance, whether he wanted it
or not, and it would not cover
several million people who are
not covered by social security
at all. Here is one place where
I think that our program does
a better job than his.
The other point that I would
make is this. This downgrading
of how much things cost, l
think many of our people will
understand better when they
look at what happened during
the Truman administration
when the Government was
spending more than it took in.
We found savings over a life
time eaten up by imitation. We
found the people who could
least afford it, people on re-
tired incomes, people on fixed
incomes. we found them unable
to meet their bills at the end
of the month.
1t is essential that a man
who is President of this country
certainly stand for every pro-
gram that will mean growth,
and 1 stand for programs that
will mean growth and prog
ress, but it is essential that he
not allow a dollar spent that
could be better spent by the
people themselves.
Mr.. Smith - Senator Ken
nedy, your conclusion.
Evening star., 1960-09-27
Agendo for '60s
Seen Biq Issue

But if you feel that we have
to move again in the SOS, that
the function of the President
is to set before the people the
unfinished business of our So
ciety as Franklin Roosevelt did
in the '30s, the agenda for our
people, what we must do as a
society to meet our needs in
this country and protect our
security and help the cause of
freedom-as I said at the be-
ginning-the question before us
all, that faces all, Republicans
and all Democrats, is freedom
in the next generation or is
the Communist going to be sue
cessful?
That is the great issue. And
if we meet our responsibilities, I
think freedom will call. If we
fail to move ahead, if we fail to
develop sufficient military and
economic and social strength
here in this country, then I
think that the tide could begin
to run against us. don't want
historians 10 years from now to
say, these are the years when
the tide ran out against the
United States. I want them to
say, these are the years when
the tide came in, these are the
years when the United States
started to move again.
That is the question before
the American people, and only
you can decide what you want
this country to be, what you
want to do with the future. I
think we are ready to move,
and it is to that great task if
we are successful that we ad-
dress ourselves.
Mr.. Smith-Thank you very
much, gentlemen. This hour
has gone by all too quickly.
Thank you very much for per-
mitting us to present the next
President of the United States
on this unique program.
I have been asked by the
candidates to thank the Amer
lean networks and the affiliated
stations for providing time and
facilities for this joint appear
ance. Other debates in this
series will be announced later
and will be on different sub
jectS.
This is Howard K. Smith.
Good night from Chicago.
Evening star., 1960-09-27

eaCn uttered WOTQ.
Grim-faced and grave-voiced,
the Democratic nominee hur-
ried through his opening state
ment launching the great de-
bate of the presidential cam
paign. Mr.. Nixon's chin was
beaded with perspiration and
his face tense and lined as he
responded in kind.
Tension Starts to Ease
Then, 16 minutes after the
start of the long TV spec
tacular that may have reached
an audience of 100 million, the
first question was asked by the
four-man panel of interroga-
ters and the tension began to
ease.
The sense of history. in the
making hung heavily over this
first of four television debates"
between the two presidential
candidates, and their face-to-
face encounter was inevitably
compared with the 1853 de-
bates between Abraham Lin
coin and Stephen A. Douglas.
1t was unclear who was to
be the Little Giant and who
the rail splitter last night, and
Mr.. Nixon and Senator Ken
nedy did little to resolve the
question.
Spirited, without RancOr
Once they had found their
compoSure after their difficult
start, neither candidate lost it
again. They argued their cases
spiritedly but without rancor.
Before they fred their on
stage charges they had shaken
hands warmly off-stage-five
times, the final four at the
urging of photographers. The
Misunderstanding was repeated
again at the end of the debate.
The two had chatted ami
ably when they met in the
broadcasting studio a few min
utes before going on the air.
Il hear you had a big crowd
in Cleveland" Mr.. Nixon said
to his Democratic rival. Sena-
tor Kennedy spoke in Cleveland
Sunday.
Comparing Suntans with
Senator Kennedy, the Vice
President added:
II guess you get your tan the
same way I do-riding, and in
convertibles. It's the wind, not
the SUM-"
Mr.. Nixon seemed to worry
Evening star., 1960-09-27
Nixon Summary

Mr.. Nixon-Thank you, Mr..
Smith. Senator Kennedy, first
of all, I think it is we'll to put
perspective to where we really
do stand with regard to the
Soviet Union in this whole
matter of growth. The Soviet
Union has been moving faster
than we have, but the reason
for that is obvious. They start
from a much lower base. Al
though they have been moving
faster in growth than we have,
we find. for example, today
that their total gross national
product is only A per cent of
Evening star., 1960-09-27
2Debuters
Each Guilty
OfFumbIe
BY SAUL PETIT
Associated Press stan Writer


CHICAGO, Sept. 27. - On
fluffs, Senator Kennedy may
have offended a few historians,
but Vice President Nixon, for a
tiny fraction of a second, must
have iolted the whole farm vote.
Senator Kennedy fumbled in
last nights televiSion debate as
he put Harry Truman in the
White House in 1914 instead OF
1945. And, in referring to
Franklin D. Roosevelt's in
augural speech of 1888 he said
that FDR uttered the famous
line this generation of Ameri-
cans has a rendezvous with
destiny" 1t wasn't in 1888; it
was in 1886.
Mr.. Nixon, however, fell into
hotter water in discussing farm
policies. In one sentence he
found himself saying, Get rid
of the farmers. :" But in
less time than it takes to say
There goes the election" he
quickly scrambled back onto
shore by adding, "Ah, that is,
farm surpluses.
On general folksiness, both
before and during the debate.
my scorecard showed Mr.. Nixor
easily ahead, at least 8 to /
In the predicate chit chat
while the cameras were warm.
ing up, it was the Vice President
who made the small talk, about
campaign crowds, about the tan
both candidates had, about the
way the wind could give you
more of a tan than the sun
You might have thought the
boys were discussing their sum-
mer vacations.
In the debate itself. it WaA
again Mr.. Nixon who led in
the department of good fellow
ship. He smiled more often and
more broadly, especially at the
start and close of a remark
Senator Kennedy only allowed
himself the luxury of a quar-.
ter smile now and then.
Mr.. Nixon also led my score.
card in personal touches. Sew.
.eral times he called public at.
tention to the fact that he
sincerely believed that both
he and his Democratic oppo.
nent are sincere in their mo-
tives, their goals, and their
judgments.
Certainly the coziest touch
of the evening came from the
Vice President.
Il know what it means to
be poor" he said just in pass
ing. And no schoolboy in the
audience could have missed the
unuttered fact that Mr.. Nixon's
career followed the traditional
American success story while
Senator Kennedy had the polit-
ical misfortune to be born into
millions of dollars.
Evening star., 1960-09-27
Continued From Page AS

Continued From Page AS
people. the older people, we
have been talking about.
AS far as aid for school con-
struction is concerned, I favor
that, and so did Senator Ken
nedy in January of this year
when he said he favored that,
rather than aid to teachers
salaries. I favor that, because
I believe that is the best way
to aid our schools without run
ming any risk whatever of the
Federal Government telling our
teachers what to teach.
Mr.. Smith-The next ques-
ton Vice President Nixon from
Mr.. Warren,
Evening star., 1960-09-27

more about his appearance. He
wore a blue shirt cit photo
graphs we'll on TV), used light
makeup and had Spotlights
fixed so that they would rub
out the shadows on his face.
Senator Kennedy wore a
white shirt and his own we'll
tanned complexion.
Mr.. Nixon seemed to be fa-
voring his left knee-that's the
one he injured so severely he
spent two weeks in a hospital
when he stood. He planted
himself firmly on his right leg
and kept his left one bent.
In addition to humping his
head earlier on a low-hanging
microphone, Mr.. Nixon also
bumped his knee as he climbed
out of his automobile, just as
he did in getting out of a car
in Greensboro. N. C.
But this time it was his right
he bumped, and he made a
joke of it.
There goes the other knee, p"
he said.
The Vice President had asked
in advance about the problem
of blotting perSpiration on his
face during the show and had
been assured that he could do
so while he was off-camera.
The television Gamer S
caught him fidgeting nervously
two or three times, while Sena-
tor Kennedy seemed to be more
at ease after his initial stage
fright" had passed.
Next Debate October I
Mr.. Nixon left by a side en-
trance Immediately after the
show. Senator Kennedy re-
mained in the studio for almost
a half hour and then emerged
into a cheering crowd of sew
eral hundred waiting for him.
A few Nixon placards waved in
the organized Democratic dem
onstration.
The studio of WBBM-TV,
formerly the Chicago Arena,
was the setting for the first of
the debates. The candidates
will debate in Cleveland Octo-
ber 7 and meet again, by re-
mote control, on October 13,
when Senator Kennedy will be
in New York and Mr.. Nixon
in Los Angeles. The final de-
bate is scheduled for October
81 in New York and will be on
foreign policy.
Evening star., 1960-09-27

advanced by you and by Mr..
Javits would have cost $500
million. Mr.. Rockefeller re-
jected it in New York. He said
it ought to be in social secu-
rity.
So those are three programs
which are quoted. I think it
shows the difference between
the two parties. One party is
ready to move in these pro-
grams; the other party gives
them lip service.
Mr.. Smith - Mr.. Warren's
question for Senator Kennedy.
Evening star., 1960-09-27
Congress Failure
In August Cited

Mr.. VanOcur-Sendtor, you
haze been promising the uoters
that if you are elected Pres
ident you tUiH try and push
through Congress bills on
medical aid to the aged, COM
prehenSiUe minimum hourly
tOGge bills, Federal aid to
education. NotD, in the August
poSt-conUention session of the
Congress, tDhen you at least
held up the possibility you
could one day be President and
l0hen you had overwhelming
mdjoritieS, especially in the
Senate, you could not get dc-
ton on these bills. NoD, hotu
do you feel that you tDiH be
able to get them In January
t0hen you couldn't get them in
August?
Senator Kennedy-If I may
take the bills. we did pass in
the Senate a bill to provide a
SIPS minimum wage. 1t failed
because the House did not pass
it, and in the House it failed by
II votes. I might say that two
thirds of the Republicans in the
House voted against SIPS
minimum wage, and a majority
of the Democrats sustained it.
Nearly two-thirdS of them voted
for SIPS. We were threatened
by veto if we passed the SIPS.
1t is extremely difficult with the
great power that the President
has to pass any bill when the
President is opposed to it.
All the President needs to
sustain his veto of any bill is
one-third plus one in either the
House or the Senate.
Second, we passed a Federal
aid to education bill in the
Senate. 1t failed to come to the
floor Of the House of Repres-
entativeS. 1t was killed in the
Rules Committee, and it is a
fact that the August session
that the four members of the
Rules Committee who were
Republicans. joining with two
Democrats voted against send
ing the aid to education bill to
the floor Of the House. Four
Democrats voted for it. Every
Republican on the Rules Com
mittee voted against sending
that bill to be considered by the
members Of the House of Rep
resentatives.
Thirdly, on medical aid to
the aged, this is the same fight
that has been going on for rs
years in social security. We
want to tie it to social security.
We offered an amendment to
do so. Forty-four Democrats
voted for it, Republican voted
for it, and we were informed
at the time it came to a vote
that if it was adopted the
President of the United States
would veto it.
In my judgment, a vigorous
Democratic President supported
by a Democratic majority in
the House and Senate can win
the support for these programs,
but If you send a Republican
President and have a Demo-
cratic majority and a threat of
a veto hangs over the Congress.
in my judgment you will con-
tinue what happened in the
August session, which is a clash
OF parties. and inaction.
Mr.. Smith-Mr. Nixon, any
comment
Evening star., 1960-09-27
Great Debate Rolls
After Painful Start
BY ROBERT E. CLARK
Star Stn q Mriter

CHICAGO Sept. 27-Nr Lincoln and Mr. Douglas doubt
less carried of with apomb but they didn't have
memerzg of the teevson to contend with
For few minutes at the start of their debate last night
both Senator Kennedy President Nixon seemed fro
by prospects for the presidency hung
Evening star., 1960-09-27
Good Business
Climate Essential

Mr.. VanOcur - Mr.. Vice
President, in one of your ear
Her statements you said 1Oe
moved ahead, we built more
schools, tDe built more hoSpt-
tails. NoW, isn't 1t true that the
building of more schools is a
Evening star., 1960-09-27

in dollars or in freedom, that
they could get through the
next congress.
Mr.. Smith-The next queS-
ton is to Vice President Nixon
from Mr.. Fleming.
Evening star., 1960-09-27

grams that I have advocated.
There are many Of the points
that he has made that would
like to comment upon. The one
in the field Of health is worth
mentioning,
The Glacier reporter., 1960-07-21
Francis Guardipee And Local
Scouts Attending Jamboree

Star Scout Eugene Johnson
and Francis Guardipee left
Great Falls by sepcial train for
the Jamboree at Colorado
Springs, Monday. Four other Ex-
plorer Scouts, Terry Racine, Leo
nard Mad Plume, Ronald Cross
Guns and Virgil Cross Guns
from Browning are also attend
ing from the Flandreau School
Eugene is an Explorer Scout
and Is the Senior Patrol Leader
of Troop 100 which is sponsored
by the Browning Lions Club. He
is a member of the Order of the
Arrow, a group Of Scouts which
bases its activities on Indian
tradition and Ceremoni3ls. He
has screwed two years as Den
Chief for Cub Pack 100 and has
been q Patrol Leader and Senior
Patrol Leader of Troop 100. He
has scent many hours making
swapping items from elk and
deer horn and from copper. He
has been working towards achiev-
ing the Life Scout Rank, and has
attended Camp Napi two years.
Francis Guardipee is an As
sistant Scoutmaster with Troop
IS. Mr.. Guardipee has been a.
leader in the Boy Scout move
ment since 1916 when he became
Scoutmaster for the Browning
troop which is now Troop 100.
He attended the World Jamboree
in France in l947 with Earl Old
Person. He has also attended The
Valley Forge Jamboree in 1850.
At the present time he is on the
Executive Committee of North
Central Council and is the Scout
master Of Troop 25 at Home
stead, Florida. In addition he has
attended many other Boy Scout
The Glacier reporter., 1960-07-21
Annual Glacier County Youth
Fair Set To Open August 10

The Seventeenth Annual GlaL
cier County Youth Fair will be
held Friday, Saturday and Sun
day, August 10, 20, and 81. More
than 225 young people will vie
for honors at the Fair. This event
was started by the Blackfeet
Tribe IL years ago to provide
a means of exhibiting the pro-
duce Of the young Blackfeet peo-
pie in gardening, crops, livestock
production and home arts. The
Fair soon grew into a county
fair and is now a place where all
youth of the county that partici-
pate in Vocational Agriculture
and All activities may compare
their work and hear the COM
ments and suggestions of qualifi-
ed judges for improving their
produce.
The Dress Revue, a colorful
and interesting event, is super
intended by Mrs. Eileen Babb.
She has completed plans for a
dreSs-up dress revue where each
girl will model the dress she
has made. This event will be held
in the Auditorium of the Brown
ing High School at 400 p. NJ. on
Friday. Rosalie Jones, a former
II v,,av,Aar sanI rrnuayrsIxr /. ufVv
dent at Holy Names College,
Spokane, will play piano selec-
tiOns during this event. Parents
are expected to attend. Awards
from Browning Merchants will
60 10 Browning All members,
while prizes given by Cut Bank
Merchants will be given to Cut
Bank All members.
The Glacier reporter., 1960-07-21

Dennis Juneau was taken 10
the Deaconess Hospital al Great
Falls Sunday after suffering the
misfortune of having his horse
roll on him twice at his ranch
about 10 miles west Of Browning
The extent OF his injuries Is
not known, but IL was reported
by q member of his family that
they include a dislocated left
shoulder and right hip.
The member said he believes
that he Is not in serious condi.
ton
Juneau ran unsuccessfully on
the Democratic ticket for Glacier
County Commissioner during the
June 2 primaries and since then
has resisted local efforts TO run
him on the independent ticket in
the coming November election
The Glacier reporter., 1960-07-21

Officers of the Fair Board are
James Kittson, President; Calvin
Augare, Vice President; Mrs.
Beverly Kittson, Secretary; and
Bill Grissom, Treasurer. r. w.
Harris of Browning superintends
the ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS Di-
vision. Superintendent of live
stock is Polite Pepion of Brown
ing. Mrs. Lois Grissom is super
intendent of the Home Econo-
mics Division. Mr.. Dexter Gal
breath will superintend the Poul-
try Division and James Ingram
will be in charge of the Vege-
table Division.
Clothing, foods, and Home I'm
provement activities produced by
i31 girls will be exhibited.
The Glacier reporter., 1960-07-21
william Lindsay
Elected Commander
OF American Legion

Elected commander of the
American Legion Department OF
Montana at its 3-day, And annual
convention in Great Falls ending
Sunday, was William "Bill" Lind.
say, Valier-Conrad area rancher.
Delegates from throughout the
state for the Legion and its Aux,
iliary conducted business sessions
during the three days, installed
incoming officers from the dis,
trict level up, and chose Boze-
man for next summers conven.
ton site.
Browning's Frank Juneau was
one of four Department Vice
Commanders elected, and he will
represent Districts 2, 8, and 8
in the Department setup.
5 The local posts color guard
composed of commander Joe Up.
ham, Jr., Don Cobell, Everette
Armstrong, and Frank Juneau, led
the Saturday afternoon parade
and carried the Department
cOlors.
Others attending from Brown,
ing included Frank MacCormick,
Tom Jessepe, Mrs. Everette Arm.
strong, Mrs. Don Cobell, and
Mrs. Joe Upham, Jr.
MacCormick, as the Legion's
state chairman of Boy Scout ac.
tivities, gave his report Satur,
day morning and awarded hon.
ors to outstanding troops.
Mrs. Alexander III. Gray, Ma.
tional President of the Ameri.
can Legion Auxiliary, sought out
Browning's delegates during a
caucus for the state commander.
ship, and in a ceremony the fol
lowing morning at the Auxiliary
meeting she was given the In
dian name "Bells Acoming" by
Joe Upham, Jr., and Frank Jun
eau.
The Glacier reporter., 1960-07-21
ChofeaU Man Dies
Of Heart Attack
While At Duck Lake

James Roy Collins, age 70, of
Choteau suffered a heart at
tack around 7:30 this morning at
Duck Lake, passing away a few
minutes later.
Mr.. Collins body was discover
ed in his caT by a friend, Mr..
Miller of Chpteau, and Sarah
Lancaster. who notified DR.. Ed
ward King, County Coroner, and
the. mans son in Choteau. The
10 friends had been fishing in
Duck Lake.
DR.. King accompanied by Ma
ior David r. Brown of Asbury
Park, New Jersey drove to Duck
Lake to view the body, which
was later brought to the Beck
Funeral Home.
The remains are being sent to
Choteau this afternoon.