Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1959-09-01

lens in the world can only be
solved by the expanding of the
wealth and trade of the world
OF course we are up against
quite a lot of pressure. You
are. and I am and .. Gin
audible) always too easy
to say or do. But ! think we
have done pretty well and II
is a great satisfaction to US to
feel the enormous increase OF
trade between Great Britain
and the United States.
You help US very much with
heavy engineering. I wish you
could do something with us on
wool textiles but perhaps you
will be able to do that.
| It is enormously increasing
and it has got to be in Europe
and with Europe and the New
World and all the world trad
ing together, and the old Brit
ish pound sterling has not done
too badly to help because 1t
is in good shape now.
Monetary Support
| Eisenhower-Let me tell you
this, we are concerned about it:
We want to see it just as strong
as you want to see it. I would
like to point out that supporting
this kind of thing is the neces-
sity for broadening our contacts
in the world, particularly. not
only among ourselves. but par
ticularly with the Iron Curtain
countries.
I believe we have got to have
better exchanges Of ideas, the
products and the conclusions Of
scientific people. We have got
to do more in books put. above
all, people.
I like to believe that the
people in the long run are going
to do more to promote peace
than are governments. Indeed,
I think that people want peace
so much that one of these days
governments had better get out
of their way and let them have
1t. and that is exactly the way
we ought to think if we are
going to think correctly.
Broader Contacts
In this thing 1t is those people
that want these things, long for
them will all their hearts, and
we have got to make 1t possible
for them to get it.
So the one big way we are
going to do it is by broadening
these contacts. 1t may be that
the people coming back may be
indoctrinated and we will not
think they are too effective at
first.
But If we keep this thing up
there are going to be a lot of
people who are not indoctri-
mated, and we know we will not
indoctrinate our people. We
cannot.
So the exchanges will finally
bring truth and understanding
to all people that will expand
these contacts and so become
very much more understanding
among ourselves. and under
standing in the long run means
peace.
Macmillan-I think we are
agreed. We have been agreed
and talked over these things
for many years. We have got
to be firm on the principles.
We have got to maintain JUS
tice, but we have got to be
flexible about the new con-
ditions that arise and how to
deal with the situation.
VIII Take Time
I believe, like you, that If we
can keep the thing fairly
steady, over the generations it
may take some time, but grad
ually the people of the world
will demand, because Of their
contacts and friendships, what
the governments, we, are try
ing to give them. 1t will take
time, we must be patient with
them.
Eisenhower: II agree. In
other words, you are saying
that strategic principle is i'm
mutable, tactics change &C
cording to arms, weapons and
the different changes.
Macmillan: And more than
arms, weapons, the psyche
logical weapons.
Eisenhower: Quite right, cor
rect. but let us remember one
! a