Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1958-01-06
UNLESS
UNLESS.


abundance thus created retains only his own per.
sonal needs. Farewell anger lust and greed envy
malice and strife pestence and war; enter golden,
companionabe, cooperative brotherhood; mankind
will live together in the glorious day of communism
that has dawned on the earth.
Mr.. Arens. Doctor, may pose this question:
How, to the Communist mind, is this world Of good
ness and Of plenty and Of unselfshness and love-
consistent with the program which we see in effect
in Communist regimes, a program of bloodshed, Of
deceit. Of inhumanity, and the like?
DR.. Schwarz. It is the justification for it all.
You see the goals To sacrifice one or two genera.
tons is not very big price to pay for such glorious
goal from their point Of view.
The Communist are confronted with this prob
lem: When they conquer the world, they are left
with those people who have been brought up in the
capitalist environment. They have had their expert.
II has formed their character and personal.
ity. Naturally, II you leave the babies and the
children with them, they will impress that charac.
ter and personality upon them, SO the Communists
are confronted with problem Of what TO do with
the adults Of established character and personality
once they have conquered the world.
Being thoroughly materialst scientists they
do not hesitate. They say they have alternative,
naturally they must dispose of these classes. To
them il is not murder. Murder is a bourgeois term
which means killing individuals for bad reasons.
They are going TO kill classes for good reasons.
Mr.. Arens Is it your theme, Doctor, that the
practice Of communism in the world is consistent
with the theory Of communism
DIR. Schwarz. Exactly. Inherent within the
theory Of communism is the greatest program of
murder, slaughter, and insanity conceivable.
Mr. Arens 1t is your theory that TO the Com.
munist mind the practice of communism and the
theory Of communism are eoextensve, that they
complement one another?
nr Cehwar~ Ev..tIv
Mr.. Arens. What is your appraisal ofthe muir.
der, deceit, and treaehery which even the Commu.
mist regimes assess against Stain?
DIR. Schwarz. To the Communists murder,
neachery and torture are frequently moral acts.
They cannot regenerate human nature until they
have destroyed the capitalist system They cannot
destroy the capitalist system until they have
conquered the world.
Mr.. Arens. What would be the mental nrocesso,
by which khrushchev could condemn Stain for muir.
der? 'N''' -ot '''ui-
Dr. Schwarz He did not condemn him. He iusti.
ned him. In his speech on Stalin that is the most
amazing feature. We say Khrushchev condemned
him because we read his report on Stains incredible
acts and mental attitudes. We pay no attention to
khrushchev's climax. He portrayed Stains acts
which were the most fendish, the most brutal. the
most evil in the record of man. He shows Stain as
multiple murderer. He shows him the murderer of
millions. He shows him as sadistic and insane He
shows him personally debating the torture of his
own friends. He showed, for example, when the
Jewish doctors were arrested and accused of poison
ing Zhdanov, Stain called in their interrogation and
Sald III you don't get confession, We will shorten
you by head" After he portrayed the whole
macabre spectacle he finished up with this state
ment, in effect: mind you, don't misunderstood.
Stain was good man. He did these things as a
Marxst-Lennst. He did these in the interest of the
working class. He was no giddy despot"
He finished up with moral justification of
Staln That leads US to Communist morality. Mo-
raity is relative and related to the objective stua-
ton.
You cannot regenerate mankind until you have
destroyed the capitalist world, and you cannot de-
stroy capitalism until you have conquered the world
The process of world conquest involves waging sue
cessfuly the class war. Within the present phase Of
the world struggle at the heart of existence there
is this universal war; As Lenin stated, Proletarian
morality is determined by the exigences OF the class
struggle"
Mr.. Arens. Could / interpose this question TO
perhaps clarity our record: Khrushchev, as we all
know, had charge of the liquidation Of the Kulak
class About 10 million Of his cOlntrymen were
liquidated, what We would call murder. A crime Of
such enormous scope that the average human mind
could not begin to comprehend 1t. In your appraisal
of the Communist philosophy and motivation in life
could Khrushchev, as a dedicated Communist, have
twinge of conscience about those murders?
DR.. Schwarz. None whatsoever.
Mr.. Arens. Why, Doctor?
DR.. Schwarz. Because these murders were in
the interest of the advance of Communist power
and world conquest and in the direction of hstOrys
will; therefore, they were moral and righteous acts
Any twinge of conscience would be remnant of
khrushchev's bourgeois upbringing and a failure
OF his Communist personality.
Mr.. Arens Could you give us a further word,
Doctor, on this theology Of the Communists on the
nevitability of communizng the world?