Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1958-01-06


proletarian class, and the that manfests itself
within q state is a conflict between the Communist
Party and the state government until the Communist
Party destroys and conquers that state. Once that
is DONE it manifess itself in the international realm
in state of between those countries that have
been conquered by the Communists and where their
power is established and those countries as yet
conquered. The basis Of Communist policy is the
existence of the class war. To them it is fact Of
being.
So within this framework every act which id.
vances their triumph is righteous. Every statement
that helps their cause is true.
Mr.. Arens. They overlooked the Christian
philosophy.
Dr.Schwarz. They wiped it out entirely.
Mr.. Arens. The philosophy that the end never
justifes the means.
DR.. Schwarz. The end creates the means. Any
act, however brutal, and no matter how many
people killed, that advances the Communist con.
quest, is peaceful act.
Within this framework of theology and morality.
no Communist tell lie in the interests of conn
munism because by definition, if it is in the interest
OF communism, it is the truth Aperson is only q
material machine and truth is merely set of cleo
trOnic impulses that circulate within his brain. The
ultimate truth is the will of the Communist Party.
Every basic term that We use has been REDEEMED by
the Communists in terms of the class war. For ex.
ample, as you well know the word peace" is one
of the great words in the Communist vocabulary and
most folks think they are hypocrtes when they use
the word peace"
Mr.. Arens Certain people in high places in gov.
erpment have professed that the Communist regime
in Soviet Russia wants peace.
DR.. Schwarz. They do want it
Mr.. Arens. What kind of peace do they want?
DIR. SchwarZ. You have to understand that
their basic concept is that class war is fact Of
being and that peace is the historical synthesis
when communism defeats the remainder Of the
world and establishes world Communist dictator.
ship, which is peace. If you ask a true Communist
to take lie detector test and ask him if he wants
peace, he would pass it with ease He would look at
you with light in his eye and say he longs for
peace. 49,
Mr.. We'll. Communist peace, not peace as we
understand it
DIR. SchwarZ. Every act that contributes to the
Communist conquest is peaceful act. If they take
gun, they take peaceful gun. containing peace.
ful bullet and kill you peacefully and put you in q
peaceful grave. When the Chinese COMMUNISTS
murder millions, ii is an act of peace When the
Russian tanks rolled into Budapest to butcher and
destroy. it was glorious peace. Peace is wonderful
and. within their framework of ideology whatever
helps their conquest is peaceful, good, and true.
Mr.. Well would like to ask one question of
Communist ideoogy There comes point when all
this reevauation and redefiniton has progressed to
APPOINT where is no longer reconcable with reality
ana even the communists themselves must recognize
this. Have they not reached that point?
DR.. Schwarz. / do not believe they have reached
II. They have reached the point of insanity.
Mr. We'll. You think Khrushchev still believes in
tne classic theories as you expounded them?
DR.. Schwarz. believe that paranoia is at the
heart OF communism and that their theoretical con.
ceptS are far more convincing to them than the
evidence OF the facts. believe, for example that
they, in their own mind, believe that the riots in
Hungary were organized by the vicious American
lmperlasts. There is this element of paranoiac
self-deception at the heart of communism do not
think that they are just hypocrites; they have
merged the techniques of hypocrisy with the virtues
OF sincerity, creating very powerful instrument.
Mr.. We'll. Mass paranoia itself is term which
can be quite deceptive.
DR.. Schwarz. 1t is powerful instrument. That
insanity is manifest in the world hysteria they
stirred up about the Rosenbergs. The Communists
manifested their tremendous efficiency as agitatorn
around the world on behalf of the Rosenbergs. The
name Rosenberg became the best-known Ameri-
can name throughout the world. There were riots
in many countries, and actually quite a number Of
people died in these riots on behalf Of the RoSenbergs
Everywhere the Communists and their friends were
heart stricken and desperately miserable because of
the ureS1Iul antl-oemtlc conspiracy that was lead.
ing to this cruel persecution Of these two poor Rosen-
bergs.
In the midst of it all, they suddenly arrested
lot of their own leading Jews in Czecheslovaki; men
of position, power, and Communist character; and
after farce of trial. which occupied about 2
weeks, they publicly executed them. The outsider
looking on would say, What sort Of people are
these? How hypocritical can you be"
The two Rosenbergs had been given fair trial
The trial before jury of their peers conducted
by an impartial judge. Appeals were heard and