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woman or anyone else to take
such o test and added:
"You may take it if you will"
"I'll take the test, sir" zusman
replied.
Later, Senator Mcclellan said
he would offer big Helen" an
opportunity also to take the test
and would suggest that she do so.
The Senator also said the re-
suits would be included with the
hearing transcript that will be
sent to the Justice Department.
Zusman interrupted to ask
that if the tests show that he is
telling the truth that they be
made public. Senator Mcclellan
said this would be done.
Erwin Raps Device
Senator Erwin, Democrat OF
North Carolina. a former State
supreme court judge, said he did
not put any faith" in a lie
detector test and added: IF
brazen, person would rate very
we'll"
zuSman, bedecked in a loud
checkered sports coat. repeatedly
denied that he had talked about
prostitution and opening call
houses with the two women and
said:
That's not true"
His repeated denials Of the
charges made by Big Helen, Z"
led Senator Erwin to draw on
Shakespeare for an apt rejoinder
that me thinks thou dost pro-
test too much"
Admits Going to House
Despite this. zusman contin-
ued his proteStations, denying
among other things that he was
an expert" on prostitution.
Under questioning, the witness
admitted going to a call house
operated by the two women but
he insisted that his two visits
were only Ito deliver sand
wiches."
Mr.. Kennedy asked if Zusman,
as stated by big Helen" adj
mired the appointments" of the
call house.
Admired what?" zusman
asked.
THE furnishings of the house, {"
Senator Mcclellan interjected.
"Oh. I didn't know" Zusman
replied.
Without ever saying whether
he admired the appointments,
the witness finally admitted that
when he made the visits he knew
by "hearsay" it was a call house.
The Hardy woman said Zus-
man had told her he had re-
ceived the information from
Maloney, a Seattle gangster &C.
tive with the Transfers in the
Langley campaign, that the call
house would not be molested.
Zusman denied passing on such
information.
Asks Lie DetectOr Test
Zusman repeated a request for
the lie detector test.
i've been married Is years and
run a very nice place. / want
a lie detector test with her big
Helen) before l leave Washing
ton. D. c." he added.
Mr.. Kennedy said committee
investigators had talked since
yesterday with Helen Smalley
and that Little Helen" had sup
ported all the statements made
by Big Helen"
Zusman denied testimony by
big Helen" that on the first
night of operation of her call
house he referred two men to
her who paid $500 and she gave
him $120 as his cut.
Can you give me any reason
why she would come here and
tell all these falSehoods," asked
Mr.. Kennedy.
Calls for Lie DetectOr
Il don't know" Zusman an
swered. That's the reason /
want a lie detector test"
Il see no advantage she would
gain from telling these things
even if she lied" remarked Sen
ator Mcclellan. will you tell
why she would come here and
single you out and lie about
you?"
Zusman said he couldn't say
why.
The witness admitted the
Hardy woman called him when
a police car showed up in front
of her place prior to closing it
down. but he attached no sig
niflcalce to that. saying at
that time the chief of police had
cars in front of every place in
Portland" He said there was
a house supposed to be occupied
by prostitutes across the street
from his night club and he said
he guessed that big Helen"
wanted to know if there was a
police car in front of that place
also.
zusman charged that the head
of the Portland police vice squad.
identified as 1t. Carl Crisp, tried
to buy his Desert Room at one
time and said that when he was
turned down, that's when my
trouble began" He said 1t. Crisp
was a "stooge" of James B.
Elkins. Portland vice operator