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Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12

chairman, will be assisted by
Mrs. Louis Allinger, president of
the county group, and the follow
ing club presidents: Mrs. James
j. Lynch, Silver Spring; Mrs.
Grace Stout, Colesville; Mrs.
Jacob Bird, Sandy Spring; Mrs.
Arthur Joseph, Takoma Park;
Mrs. Cora Webster, Chevy Chase;
Mrs. William G. Allen, Bethesda;
Mrs. Phillip Thorson, Sumner;
Mrs. Don Pryor, Suburban Club;
Mrs. Ruth Lebergott, 7-3 Club;
and Mrs. Pauline Bond, Rockville
and Upper Montgomery County.
Other committees are door priz-
es and favors, Mrs. E. Brooke
Lee and Mrs. Genevieve Wells,
assisted by Mrs. Eugene Fry, Mrs.
Stedman Prescott, Jr., Mrs. Har-
per Smith and Miss Elizabeth Gil
liland; arrangements, Mrs. Leo
Koepfle, chairman; Mrs. Morris
Taylor, Mrs. Eula Novotny, Mrs.
Emily Christensen and Mrs. Grace
Naumowicz; Publicity, Mrs. Mar
ion Clark.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
People de Nno~
Miss Lucy Is Home,
NOpen House Fetes Set

Out-of-toWn guests here for the
August "a wedding of Miss Char
lotte Louise Higgs of Silver
Spring, to Mr.. Robert James
Woods, Jr., of Washington, D. c.,
included the following:
Mrs. Vernon Webb and son,
Vernon, of Charles Town, w. Va;
Mrs. Benjamin Morgan of Har.
pers Ferry, w. Va; Miss Willie
M. Higgs of Rochester, N. Y;
Mrs. Frank r. Andrews and son,
Dwight, of Crozet, Virginia; Mr..
and Mrs. BENJAMIN F. Higgs of
Salem, Va; Mr.. and Mrs. Vernon
Ningard of Dundalk, Md; Mr.
Wilson Higgs of Fairfax, Va;
Mr.. James A. Higgs and children,
John and Brooke, of Stanton,
Va; Mr.. Richard v. Higgs and
son, Wilson, of Massie's Hall, Va;
Mr.. and Mrs William Ningard Of
Baltimore; Mrs. Ralph d. Woods
and daughter, Winifred, and Mr..
Samuel Woods, all of Charleston,
w. Va; Mr.. Dennis Vermillion of
Norfolk, Va; Mr.. James Brown of
Pensacola, Fla; and Mr.. and Mrs.
Ralph Norris of Arlington, Va.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12

Mrs. June Allen, a familiar Hits"
face who first appeared in this
column two years ago when she
started the Bethesda Children's
Theater.
Expansion Noted
Her first venture, held in the
Bethesda Music and Arts Center,
outgrew its space last year and
was continued on a private lesson
basis with a number of its grad.
yates going on to professional
work on the stage and TV.
The new Children's Theater
will be sponsored by the Rockville
Recreation Department under the
direction of Bert Kurland with
Mrs. Allen as teacher, on Satur-
day mornings at the Glenview Civ
ic Center over on Baltimore Road.
Registration will be held on Sep
TENDER 81 from 8 to II in the
morning and the cost will be $40
for a 10-week session to begin
Saturday, September %, and end
with Christmas performance for
graduation.
The Theater will be divided into
two age groups; seven to nine
year olds working from $50 to II
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
Open House

Invitations have been issued by
the Woman's Division of United
Cerebral Palsy of Montgomery
County and the Junior Woman's
Club of Chevy Chase, to attend an
Open House of the New United
Cerebral Palsy Nursery Treat
ment Center, from three to six
o'clock on Saturday, September
ID, at Jesup Blair Community
Building, Georgia Avenue and
Blair Road, Silver Spring.
The Montgomery County Red
Cross will entertain at an open
House" from 2 to pm. and from
1880 to $3.50 pm. on Monday, Sep
TENDER 16, at the Chapter House,
2020 East-West Highway, Silver
Spring. Guests will have an OPP
portunity to meet the officers,
chairmen and some of the volun.
teers who plan and carry on the
groups many activities, and tour
the building viewing various ex-
hibits.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
DR.. GaIbraith
To Address
.Suburbanites

DR.. j. Kenneth Galbraith, the
distinguished Harvard economist,
government administrator and
author, will discuss "the piety
and postponement of Eisenhower
economic policy" before members
and guests of the Woman's SUI
burban Democratic Club at 1880
a. m, Friday September 10, at
Clenbrook Club, 5000 Wisconsin
Avenue, Bethesda.
Preceding his talk, the club
will hold its first business meet
ing of the season, during which
the years program of political
study and specialized activity will
be introduced. A sandwich lunch
con will follow Dr. Galbraith's
addressed.
Currently, DR.. Galbraith is
chairman Of the Advisory Com
mittee on Economic Policy for the
Advisory Council of the Democrat
tic National Committee. In the
1856 campaign, he was economies
advisor to Governor Adlai Steven
son.
Arrangements for the speak
er's appearance in Montgomery
County were made by Mrs. VIII
Lang, program chairman Of the
Woman's Suburban Democratic
Club.
Mrs. Harold Blasky (OL. g.
4604) is in charge of reservations
required for the sandwich lunch
con that will be served to those
desiring to stay after Or. Gal
braith's talk. Members are invit.
ed TO bring guests.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
Brow-Ward NuptiaIs
Unite Rockville Pair

Two Rockville residents were
united in marriage recently when
Miss Jane Starr Ward, daughter
of Mr.. and Mrs. Milbourne E.
Ward, Sill w. Montgomery Ave
nue., became the bride of Mr..
Kenneth Allan Brow, son of Mr..
and Mrs. Harold A. Brow, 6003
Coral Sea Avenue. Palms, ar
engagements of gladioli and pom
poms, and lighted candles decor
ated the University of Maryland
Memorial Chapel where DR.. Will
liam E. Smith performed the 7:30
p. m. double ring ceremony.
The bride, given in marriage by
her father, wore gown of Italian
silk and chantilly lace, styled with
a chapel train. Her fingertip-
length veil fell from headpiece
of lace, Italian silk and seed
pearls, and she carried a cascade
Of white orchids, roses and pom
poms together with an heirloom
handkerchief trimmed with lace
made by her great-grandmother.
Mrs. Shirley King of Clarks-
burg, was matron of honor, and
the trio of bridesmaids included
Mrs. Ann Stair of Bethesda, Mrs.
Bette Myers of Springfield, Va. i;
and Mrs. Nancy Walker of Rock
vile. Mellis Ann Myers of Wash
ington, D. c. served as flower
girl, carrying a basket of rose
petals. All of the attendants wore
afternoon dresses of pistacchio
green silk organZa with head
bands of green velvet and carried
bouquets of bronze full chrysan-
themums with ivy.
The best man was Mr.. Robert
j. Brow of Rockville, and usher
ing were the Messrs. Leroy Kagle
and Donald Coumont of Balti-
more, and Ronald Britner of
College Park.
Mr.. George A. Myers sang the
nuptial music, and Mr.. Charles
Haslup played the organ.
For her daughters wedding,
Mrs. Ward chose a French blue
lace dress and wore corsage of
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
Theodore Nofsinger
WEEDS N. J. Resident

of peau-de-soie, styled with
bodice of alencon lace, an obi
sash, trailing panels and chapel
train. Her fingertip veil of illu-
sion was attached to a pillbox of
alencon lace embroidered with
sequins and pendant pearl. She
carried a colonial bouquet of
white roses and orchids.
The bridegroom's sister, Miss
Kay Noffsinger, was maid of
honor, and Mrs. Grant ] Scott of
Summit, N, ], served as matron
of honor. The bridesmaids were
Mrs. Frank Klahre of Bergenfield,
N. j.; Mrs. William Plummer of
Alexandria, Va; and Mrs. Jack
Vance of Philadelphia, Penna. All
of the attendants were gowned in
peacock taffeta with matching
head clips. The honor attendants
carried colonial bouquets of white
roses conferred with pink roses.
and the bridesmaids bouquets
were reversed.
Mr.. Martin Wesley Noffsinger
of Gaithersburg, was best man
for his brother, and the lineup of
ushers included the Messrs. A. M.
Brueckmann Of Baltimore, Paul
M. Kelley of Silver Spring, j..
Thomas Kelley, III, of German
town, and Roger Sears of Akron,
Ohio.
After reception at the Bow
and Arrow Manor, West Orange,
N. j., the couple honeymooned at
Lake Placid, N. Y. They will make
their home in Baltimore.
The bride attended Bucknell
University, where she was a mem
Der of Phi Mu sorority, and re-
ceived her B. A. in education from
the University Of Maryland. Her
husband, who served in Korea
with the u. S. Air Force, attended
the University of Richmond, re-
ceived his B. A. from the Univer-
sity of Maryland and is now en-
tering his second year of study at
the University of Maryland
School of Dentistry in Baltimore.
He is member of Theta Chi
and Psi Omega fraternities.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
Sorority Honors
CoIumnist, Sets
Meeting Dates

Area members of Alpha Chi
Omega sorority gathered in
Chevy Chase on Sunday to pay
tribute to Miss Ida Jean Kahn,
syndicated columnist, who was
presented a national Award of
Achievement. The buffet supper
took place at the home of Mrs.
Robert E. Acorn, 5608 Western
Avenue, with members of the gov
erning board of Alpha Epsilon
Alpha, alumnae chapter of Alpha
Chi Omega in the Washington
area, acting as hostesses.
Mrs. Raymond L. Suppes, 7407
Oak Lane, Chevy Chase, national
president of Alpha Chi Omega
for the past four years, presented
the plaque to Miss Kahn, who
later spoke to the group.
Reservations for the affair
were handled by Mrs. James r.
Morton of Bethesda.
Fall meetings of various Alpha
Chi Omega alumnae groups are
scheduled as follows:
On Tuesday evening, Septem-
Der II, at 8 o'clock, the Junior
Group will meet at the home
of Mrs. Hallway H. Johnson,
''Keithway," Marcliff Road, Rock.
vile.
On Tuesday, September II, the
Afternoon Group will meet for
1890 dessert at the home of Mrs.
Clyde v. Finter, 1908 Beach Street,
NV, Washington, D. C.
On Wednesday evening, Sep
TENDER is, the Evening Group
will meet at eight o'clock at the
home of Mrs. d. w. Ochiltree,
5112 Scarsdale Road, Sumner,
Washington, ID. c.
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Brooks Photo.

pink orchids. The bridegroom's
mother wore rose lace with a
pink rose corsage.
A reception followed the cere-
mony at University Methodist
Church, after which the couple
departed on a wedding trip to
Ocean City, Md They will reside
in Hyattsville.
Both the former Miss Ward and
her husband are graduates of
Richard M mtg ONE cry High
School. The bride is also a grad-
uate of the University Of Mary
land, where Mr.. Brow is currently
a stduent.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
Baby on the Way7
Red Cross Classes
A Must for Mother

Here's how TO avoid chaos and
confusion in the home with new
baby! Enroll in the Montgomery
County Red Cross Mother and
Baby Care classes to be held al
Chapter House, 2020 East.West
Highway, Silver Spring. These
classes, open to both prospective
parents, will take place from 8
to 10 pm. each Tuesday and
Thursday for three weeks, begin
ming Tuesday, October 8.
Call Chapter House, Juniper g.
25l5, to register, or for further in.
formation.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
Golden Hour Group
Plans Supper Meeting

A pot.luck supper will be served
to members of the Golden Hour
Group at $50 p. m. on Monday,
September 16, at the Woman's
Club of Bethesda. Host and hos
tess for the evening will be Mr..
and Mrs. Charles Rhodes. Mrs.
Paul II. Gallagher is chairman
of the meeting to follow.
The group was organized in
1850 by the Woman's Club of Be-
thesda to provide social recrea-
ton and creative activities for
senior citizens of the community.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12

or belonging. But if you belong,
there is no more enriching ex-
perience for anyone"
A Look Back
To reintroduce our neighbor
from Vandegrift Avenue, Mrs.
June Allen, we will go back to
our first column on her.
Born in Stratford-on-Avon, the
birthplace of Shakespeare, Mrs.
Allen showed early evidence OF
the influence of her environment"
"She had her first speech les.
son at the age of four, and has
never stopped studying. She was
bronze medal graduate of the
Royal Academy Of London and a
student at the University Of Wales
One Of her teachers, Naomi San
som, is one of the worlds great.
est speech teachers"
"A member of the Kenilworth
Repertory for five years, Mrs.
Allen is a firm believer in the
value Of the repertory as a con
tinuing supply of trained profess
sionals."
.. Since coming to this coun.
try, she has taught at the Curry
School in Boston; taught special
courses for radio and television
work; served as a professional
announcer at Boston radio sta.
ton; and worked as a model,
which she feels teaches poise and
development of the personality"
In the past two years, June has
added another performance to her
acting career, Mrs. Kirby" in
you Can't Take II With You
at the Olney last season.
5-Week Experiment
After a five week experiment
last spring, she has also under.
taken a full time teaching job in
child guidance therapy at Chill
drens House in the District.
At Rockville, she is breaking
one of her own rules for the Be
thesda Children's Theater by al
lowing her three children, Jean,
Barbara and David to become stu.
dents.
Although she feels that she can
not be objective with her own,
neighborhood project Of teach
ing drama this summer convinced
her daughters that her courses
are fun and they insisted that they
not be left out this time.
With this opinion, my daughter
Lucy agrees. She had her first
experience Of learning dramatics
with Mrs Allen also this summer
and lessons are fun and mol
work" she says.
So here / go on a new career
as "stage-door momma" anc
the Saturday space on the Wales
XII calender is filled for the mex
ten weeks.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
On Democratic Women's Day
On Democratic Women's Doy
Committees Listed for
Luncheon-StyZe Fete

Marking the first Countrywide
observance of Democratic Wom-
ems Day, inauCurated in 1899, a
luncheon.fashion show will be
held at Manor Country Club on
September Is at 1890 p. m. by
the Womans Democratic Club of
Montgomery County.
The show, staged by The Hecht
Co., will feature the latest fall
and winter fashions.
Mrs. Virginia M. Black, general
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12

49, - AA(SNC AtADb u ain
Fresh starts" are being made
in all directions as PTAs and
Scouts and Citizen Associations,
etc, begin new year of activi.
ties.
The spaces on our League of
Women Voters calendar are sud-
denly too small to hold all the
dentist and doctor checkups, dane
ing lessons, registration dates,
and meetings of every variety for
every member of the family.
Gone are the timeless, "livin' is
easy" summer days and organiza-
ton is again the keynote.
A new space on our calendar
this year is reserved for the Rock
Vile Children's Theater and an
old friendship renewed is with
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
By Kathleen Leary
Society Editor

County oldsters and youngsters
alike, are welcoming a favorite
citizen of Rockville, Mrs. Lucy
Barnsley, back from a nine week
sumner vacation. Maryland's Mo-
Their of the Year described her ex-
perienceS before members of the
Rockville Inquiry Club when they
met Monday night at the home of
Mrs. Melvin Reese, wife of the
county manager. Her account
was part of program during
which club members reviewed the
highlights Of their own vacations.
Mrs. Paul Wire, president, con-
Quoted the meeting of the commu-
nity's oldest women's club, organ
lied in 1911.
Miss Lucy" who marks her
10th birthday on the last day of
September, visited this summer
with her son, Ted, his wife and
three children, at Yakima, Wash.
She particularly enjoyed the trip
to Yakima Park, near Mt Rainier,
where she played in the snow on
July 20. The day the family
chose to visit Paradise Park was
too cold for picnicking, too.
On August % Mrs. Barnsley
flew to N. Hollywood, for re-
union with Mrs. Dorothy Schott,
widow Of the former principal of
r ic h a I'd Montgomery High
School, and a resident of the West
Coast for the past 16 years. Ac-
quaintances made during previous
visits entertained Miss Lucy" ex-
tensively at luncheon, dinner and
theater parties.
All the way back here on the
airplane trip from Los Angeles,
Mrs. Barnsley no doubt was bus
lily thinking about her many prof.
ects which started with the open
ing of school and the club sea
son. The retired school teacher
plans to continue working as a
substitute teacher from time-to-
time. In addition to her duties as
program and publicity chairman
of the Inquiry Club, she is max
ing plans for three organizations
close to her heart.
As organizer and leader of the
Young in Heart Club, she has set
the first fall meeting for Wed.
nesday, September 25. at Rock
vile Methodist Church. Members
who plan to sew on layettes for
the Lay Health Council to give to
INDECENT mothers, will gather at
1920 am. Luncheon at 1890 will
be followed by program.
Her activities will also revolve
around both the Maryland FEEDER
alton and the Fifth District Wom-
ems Club, which she serves as
CHRONOLOGY (science of aging)
chairman and the County Com
mittee on Aging.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12

a. M; and the older nine-to-
tWelves, from IL to 1890.
Groups Limited
Mrs. Allen insists on limiting
each group to 20 children in order
to maintain the quality of her
instruction. If the demand great
ly exceeds this number, she and
Mr.. Kurland will try to set up
more groups rather than increase
the number in each group.
June is insistent on this point
as she takes her profession seri.
ously and feels that she couldn't
do a good job for each child if
she tried to handle more than
20 at one time.
Although the new course does
not include private speech lessons
as did the one in Bethesda, it will
stress clarity of speech and good
diction," says June.
Her unique method of using a
tape recorder to teach her chill.
dren the error of their speech
ways will play an important part
in each session.
Posture correction and improve.
ment are also goals and to this
end modelling will be taught the
girls.
But the main emphasis will be
on stage and theater work with
grease paint, makeup, costuming
and set designing all parts of the
picture.
Boys and Girls
Boys and girls, and June hopes
that a good proportion of her
young hopefuls will be actors, will
work together creating their own
plays. Creation not rote learning
is her method of teaching dra-
mates.
She also plans to take her chill
dren in groups to any play staged
in the metropolitan area during
the course that would be of in.
terest to them.
Plans call for dress rehearsals
by the fourth week and June is
enthusiastic over the large closet
at the Civic Center which Mr..
Kurland has reserved for cos.
tunes which June will supply.
Tapes and greasepaint are also
provided.
Every Children's Theater grad
uate will receive Helen Hayes
certificate which is a personally
signed letter from that actress
with the following words of wis
dom CLEANED from her own ex.
perience.
g. l was pushed on the stage
by my mother but the theater
became my own choice as the
years went on. | heard all the
warnings about the stage is dying
and young actors would only win
misery. Well, the theatre is hard.
You either come out discouraged
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
Virginia Swdrtz,
Paul H. WILDER
Engaged to Wed

Mr.. and Mrs. John Lester
Swartz of Germantown, announce
the engagement of their daugh-
ter, Miss Virginia Lee SwartZ, to
Mr.. Paul Horend WILDER, 5218
Baltimore Avenue, son of Mrs.
Edward Bacon WILDER and the
late Mr.. WILDER of Chevy Chase.
An August wedding is planned.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12

OF interest here was the recent
wedding at st. Philips Roman
Catholic Church in Clifton, N. j.,
in which Mr.. Theodore j. Noff-
singer, Jr., son of Mr.. and Mrs.
Noffsinger of Gaithersburg, took
as his bride, Miss Georgene l..
Dunn, daughter of Mr.. George j..
Dunn of Fair Lawn, N. j., and the
late Mrs. Dunn. The Rev. John
Sullivan officiated.
Given in marriage by her faith.
er, the bride wore a sheath gown
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
Auxiliary to Meet

Wheaton's American Legion
Auxiliary, Rock Creek Unit 268,
will meet at $50 p. m. on Mon
day, September 16, at the Whea-
ton Recreation Center.
Guest speaker will be Miss Car
olyn King, who represented the
Auxiliary Unit at Girl State in
Annapolis in June.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
This and That

Little Christy Dale Mizell, five
yeard-old daughter of Mr.. and
Mrs. William d. Mizell, 3714
Manor Road. Chevy Chase, has
been chosen for the second year
as one of three winners in the
Model Child" contest conducted
by Woodward and Lothrop Of Be-
ircsda. She received a gift GER
tifica;c.
Mrs. Alfred Paul of Ridgewell
Farm, River Road, entertained at
luncheon at Normandy Farm re-
Gently in honor Of Mrs. Harvey
Cobb and Mrs. Russell Conn, and
their respective granddaughter,
Miss Jean Cobb and Miss Did, De
Martina, here from Coral Gables,
Fla.
Mr.. and Mrs. Carl Edmund
Burriss, 10804 Weymouth Street,
Garrett Park( are announcing the
birth Of son. Carl Ed IN, b>rn
August % at Suburban Hospital.
An informal tea at Momgom-
cry Junior College, Takoma Park,
honored new members of the fac.
ulty and staff at various Mary
land junior colleges. Arranged by
the lacIeJ OF the MIC faculty, the
affair was held in the Student
Building dining hall.
Dean Donald f. Deyo served as
host for the visitors, who included
DR.. Jesse Bogue, executive secre-
tary Of the American Association
Of Ju'jor Colleges and Mr.. Harold
d. Reese, member of the Mary
land Board Of Education.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
House. SITS

Major General and Mrs. George
r. Kennebeck, 9315 Harvey Road,
Silver Spring, recently enter
tanned their son and daughter-in-
law, 1st Lieutenant and Mrs.
George Kennebeck, Jr., here on a
Today visit from Cannon Air
Force Base, Clovis. N. NJ. During
the stay the visitors held the
christening of their six-month.old
daughter, Beth, at Woodside
Methodist Church, Silver Spring.
DR.. Milton ]. Rogers officiated.
Liuet. and Mrs. Kennebeck also
visited her parents, Mr.. and Mrs.
Sterling Nordhouse of Nyack,
N. Y.
An International Farm Youth
Exchange from England has been
living on the Gaithersburg farm
Of Mr.. and Mrs. Allie Messer.
Miss Marion Georgina Harris of
North Devon, was here during the
County and State fairs and de.
parted September A to be the
houseguest of Mr.. and Mrs.
George Nicholsons of Ladysburg
in Frederick County.
Mrs. Marjory Hendricks of
Potomac has been enjoying a visit
from her son and daughter.in-law,
DR.. and Mrs. Roger Todd Davis,
of Vermillion, S. d. Accompanied
by their children, David, Marjory
and Michael Todd Davis, the visi-
tors stopped here enroute to the
meeting in New York of the
American Psychological Associa.
ton. DR.. Davis is associate pro.
fessor of psychology at the Uni.
versity of South Dakota.
Montgomery County sentinel. [volume] (Rockville, Md.) 1855-1974, 1957-09-12
Engagements
Weddings
Club News
Hifs for Mrs.
Hifs for Mrs.
Color Of the Theater
Is Brought 10 Young
By Dorothy Waleski
staff Reporter

The fall season means not only back to school, time,
when, with no-tooaudibe 1--WE hope) sigh of relief we
return youngest to the public Schools but also old
friendships and pick up knittn from where dropped it