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Rebuilding Of Social Attitude
Seen Needed to Curb Spiitups

NdLIOu. ~ Was td4kCO dUOut III
hushed tones; If there were a
divorce among your relatives
you regarded it as one Of those
unfortunate incidents, to be hid
den in the family closet and
forgotten. Divorce was favored
with disgrace. Politicians would
refuse to run a divorced man
for public Office.
No one asks that we reSurrect
an era of disgrace. But the
judges. psychiatrists. family
counselors, and ministers with
whom I talked were agreed on
one point: We must rebuild a
responsible attitude toward mar
riage and a responsible. not
casual. attitude toward divorce.
Here is the consensus as I found
it:
Divorce is failure, and it would
not hurt one whit to face up to
it as such. It might even en-
courage some couples to try a
little harder. Where there are
children. divorce is the defeat
and surrender of a family. It is
not something to be sought. but
something to be fought; not a
way out, but a way down. Di-
vorce is not to be pursued as an
end in itself any more than a
businessman would pursue bank
ruptcy. For that is what divorce
is: Family bankruptcy. with the
children as the unpaid creditors.
Biggest Mistake"
Divorced couples, at the time
of the breakup, usually try to
get their friends to take sides.
Each wants to be indicated,
losing sight of the fact that
both usually are at fault. The
time for friends to take sides
is before the divorce, not after,
and the side to take is not
against either partner but
against the wreck they are both
headed for.
Divorce is sometimes roman
ticized, but those who see it close
at hand know that few human
experiences are more grim. One
follow up study among divorced
people revealed that in case
after case individuals regarded
divorce as "the biggest mistake
Of my life" Men and women said
they not only missed the happy
times in marriage but. as one put
it, II even miss the fights and
SquabbleS." The word which
popped up most frequently in
their stories was loneliness"
The curtailment of divorce.
it is felt, must come about
through a new social attitude
which not only stresses the re-
Sponsibilities of marriage but
tells the truth about divorce. AS
one physician and counselor put
it. There must be greater under
standing of the evils of divorce,
the harm to children, and the
unhappiness Of the divorced man
and woman. Divorce hurts a lot
more than 1t helps"
Tomorrow: The Best Way
to Prevent Divorce Advice
from the experts who believe
the battle against divorce must
be started early.
released by the REGISTER and
Tribune Syndicate, 1954)
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Mortinsburg Safety Marked

MARTINSBURG, w. Va, June
23.-City Police have received a
special Award of Merit for this
city's 1858 safety record of hav-
ing no motor fatalities. The
award was from the American
Automobile Association.
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Specific Term Urged
In ID Conviction for
LeWd Publications
washington, ID. z.
WEDNESDAY, JUNE Is, 1854

ne OISII1CtS Law GAAAO4SS-
ment Council yesterday urged
amendment to pending legisla-
ton requiring a mandatory
penalty for convicted second
ofense peddlers of indecent
publications.
The measures now pending
before the Senate District Com
mittee call for a compulsory
sentence of a $1,000 fine and one
year in Jail for such second Of
tenders. Under the existing law
the first offense penalty is a
fine ranging from $50 to $500
and/or a Jail term ranging from
q day to one year. There is no
specific provision for second
offenders.
On the recommendations Of
It's adult misdemeanor commit
tee, however, the council urged
that the second offense manda-
tory penalty be modified to a
fine ranging from $500 to $1,000
and jail sentence ranging from
four months to one year.
Another Section Studied.
The Congress-appointed adj
visory body took under consid-
Grafton another section Of the
proposed indecent publication
bill that would provide for seiz-
ure Of the physical property OF
firms convicted of selling or adj
vertising for sale indecent pub
locations.
This was one of five items dis
cussed by the council in its reg
ular District Building meeting.
According to District Commits
sioner Samuel Spencer, who is
chairman of the council, those
parts of yesterdays session were
devoted to recent charges by Jul
venile Court Judge Edith H.
Cockrill that police have been
subjecting juveniles to brutal
treatment in the course OF ar
rest.
Police Chief Robert P. Murray
attended the meeting, but Judge
Cockrill was elsewhere. Both
are members Of the Council. It
was understood that the Judge
begged of on grounds that an
emergency" had developed at
the court that prevented her
attending the council meeting.
Commissioner Spencer, who
served as spokesman after the
tightly closed session ended,
assured reporters that the sub
ject Of police brutality was not
discussed at all.
Other Matters Considered.
Instead, he said. these other
matters were considered:
/. Increasing the penalty for
those convicted Of contempt OF
Municipal Court above the pres
emit maximum of a SO fine
and/or 10 days in jail. The
council favored this. *E
z. A proposal to increase the
present penalty for convicted
bigamists. The council favored
leaving the penalty as it is. for
the present at least.
8. Whether judges Of the U. s.
District Court for the District
of Columbia should have the
services Of q District-hireu
psychiatrist and psychologist at
their disposal to provide that
court with the same services al
ready proposed for the District
Corrections Department, Parole
Board and the Probation ON
GERS of the court. The council
voted yes so long as the service
would be available only in GRIM
inal cases.
4. Whether the United States
Commissioner for the District OF
Columbia, as well as the Mu-
nicipal Court judges. sitting as
committing magistrates. IN
felony cases, should be en-
powered to order metal observa-
lions at District General Hos
pital for defendents-a power
now vested in Federal District
Court only. The council voted
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Divorce Granted /!


II divorce has gotten out Of
boundS-and with one divorce
to every four marriages. few
doubt that it has-one very good
reason has been our casual
acceptance of it. We accept di-
vorce today with fewer qualms
than we once viewed a broken
engagement.
Judges who see the flotSam Of
wrecked marriages daily in their
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Casual attitudes toward di-
vorce have been at the heart
of the trouble. Family agencies
list more general acceptance Of
the idea of divorce" as q prime
cause for marriage crackupS.
Anthropologist Margaret Mead
has said, THE most serious thing
that is happening in the United
States is that people enter mar
riage now with the idea that it
is terminable. Divorce has come
to be accepted. in many circles,
as an instrument of family policy.
This is the trend which must
be changed If divorce is to be
lessened. More than laws, our
social attitudes determine how
much or how little divorce we
are going to have.
Divorce once was rare among
the responsible people Of the
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~ Cant Help Levin
THAT MAlYIS!

NTor many self-respecting cats would allow
In bug to walk all over them. but Zia is a
special cat. She works in the studio Of photog-
rapher Roy Pinney, her main duties being to
amuse Mr.. Pinney's numerous baby models.
One day praying mantis flew IN the window
and, with what seems good deal Of crust,
began to inspect Zia from stem to stern.
Zia scarcely batted whisker. Presently the
mantis flew out, and Zia went back to get
ting her tail pulled by photogenic brats.
The Southern Jewish weekly. [volume] (Jacksonville, Fla.) 1939-1992, 1954-11-19

Mcdaniel the tremendous person
ality that she is. She and her
husband reflect themselves in
each other, and meeting them
both is an uplifting experience for
anyone Their thinking is so
honestly balanced that criticism
from them must be received as
graciously as it Is given
There were two questions
which I posed TO the McDaniels
Through no other source had
! been able TO find the answer /. !.
First, l wanted an unbiased
opinion on the influence of the
American University at Beirut on
the thinking Of travellers going
from the Arab countries to Israel
A large percentage of the
tourists travelling this way receive
their briefing upon the political
situation at the University i.
They come to Israel thoroughly
anti-Israel =.
The McDaniels agreed that the
University presents only one side
Of the political question .
Louise thought that there might
be some sort Of anti-semitism in
volved They both said the
situation was one which should
be looked into
Secondly, inquired about the
situation of the Christian mission
schools in Israel The govern
ment has been concerned over the
prominence of American Jewish
children in these church-schools
They claim that refusing to
send these children to Israel
schools tends to separate them
from the Israel community
Louise Mcdaniel was quite pos.
tive in her thinking here >. IF
Israel wants 10 learn the work
ings of a democracy she will have
TO learn to be more lenient here
in her relationship with the mis-.
sion schools and I am sure
this will some day be rec4ified."
The trends in Israel are chang
ing in many directions Mcdaniel
offered I'm time the Histadrut
will have to give up its policy
of ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
agent combine, and become solely
The Southern Jewish weekly. [volume] (Jacksonville, Fla.) 1939-1992, 1954-11-19
pooe Eleven

a labor organization /. It will
take time . !. There are powerful
interests here, but it will have to
come The trend in govern
ment-thinking is changing, too
"At the beginning man like Dow
Joseph was so eager to give the
people food that we had to con-
vince him of our work in planned
agriculture and industry To-
day he among others sees the wis
dom of such thinking
when we departed, we left
Israel with six vocational training
schools We had a difficult time
convincing the organizations do
ing this kind of work that we
would not conflict with them .
Today Israel can train all of its.
newcomers in any field in which
they need workers
1he 1sfaeE responds beautiful
lY 10 pressure E. They work mag
nificen4lY :"
Our visit with the McDaniels
was a difficult one to terminate
e. They had brought glimpse
of greatness into our every day
existence, and we were loathe to
let them go =. They told us they
plan trip to Israel next summer,
and can perhaps stay a little
while I bravely said
"L'hitraot . :"
It is meeting people like this
that makes the picture of Israel's
future seem brighter And
think that Louise and Bruce Nc
Daniel will agree with me when l.
say that meeting Israel makes
people like this J.
The Southern Jewish weekly. [volume] (Jacksonville, Fla.) 1939-1992, 1954-11-19

us TO leave Israel Il is a won
derful, wonderful country. and
everywhere we go now that we
are back in the United States
there is someone from the Jewish
colony who wants TO hear about
Israel SO we like to look them
up. and talk with them ="
Louise is a slim, pert woman
who rides on waves of buoyancy
that carry along everyone with
in hearing l was in Israel at
the time the McDaniels left i.
Their mission was over, and it
was time to return home ;. Their
departure in July conceded with
the attack of the Arab Legions
on Jerusalem (Mrs. Mcdaniel was
of the opinion that the outburst
might have been directed at them
personally as they were then in
Jerusalem) It was a tense
period, and when the Mixed
Armistice Commission refused to
find the Arabs guilty Israel felt
friendless and alone The
presence of such a sympathetic
friend as Bruce Mcdaniel in the
country had been a great morale
booster +. To bid him "shalom"
was a heartbreaking task for the
Israelis The press wept along
with the people Bruce Nc
Daniel had helped them over
many tight spot, far and away
above the call of duty :. -.
"You have no idea" he told
me. "how nervous many Of the
government people were in their
positions =. They had absolutely
no experience in :, government
work They were at a loss
when it came to procedure. and
The Southern Jewish weekly. [volume] (Jacksonville, Fla.) 1939-1992, 1954-11-19

SO on But they learned. and
they did better than many a prac-
ticed diplomat +. They shone in
the United Nations We were
so proud Of them -"
When the McDaniels speak of
Israel and the plans for the future
they say I'VE" must do such
and such I'VE" will have to
see this through :. do not know
whether either of them are aware
of this, but apparently, removed
from their post, they still feel that
they are a part of Israeps historic
development
What Israel needs is more
Americans e" says Louise Nc
Daniel >. las we used to say in
the Mission Israel needs their
know how and show how
I'm going TO fell my Jewish
friends in Southern California
about that 1.-The McDaniel's
home is in that state) -.
I interjected the thought that
there are some American Jews
who believe it would be treason
Gus to leave this country to live
in Israel Louise Mcdaniel
raised an eyebrow 4. l proceed
ed to say that there are some
American Jews who question the
patriotism of Zionists -.
why was Zionist when !
was in the country six weeks. and
I was a 'Sabra' before that" she
laughed. And now that am
back in this country I am going
to become member of Hadassah
If they will take 'Shiksa' :. J.
Mrs. Armel and Mrs. Katz as
sured Mrs. Mcdaniel that they
were certain her Southern Cali
fornian chapter would adore hav-
ing her {. and I unused to myself
that Louise Mcdaniel had indeed
captured the traits of the Sabra
Charming and straight-for-
ward is this little woman behind
the big man
Like the Sabra. Louise can get
The Southern Jewish weekly. [volume] (Jacksonville, Fla.) 1939-1992, 1954-11-19
BY Ethel Teddy" Moscovi4z

This week we muse about the "wo-
mans side of the news" as we spotlight
the woman behind the man on the front
page Louise Mcdaniel. wife Of Bruce
Med aniel. retiring head of the U. S.
Grant and Aid Mission TO Israel -.
The morning Dorothy Katz (Mrs.
Harry, Bernice Armel (Mrs DAVID and
dropped in at the Roosevelt Hotel to
meet Louise Mcdaniel, her enthusiasm
was directed toward Israel +. She and
her husband have recently returned
from there :. . Said Mrs. Mcdaniel:
1T was a terrible emotional strain for
The Southern Jewish weekly. [volume] (Jacksonville, Fla.) 1939-1992, 1954-11-19

her "dander up" :. Dorothy KATE
asked her about the political stu.
alton -. Now. you must remem.
Der" said Bruce McDaniel's wife.
the Government Of the United
States sees the Middle East as one
region -. Its policy has been
consistently that of impartialitY TO
each of the countries which con.
stitute the Middle East II was
just that there had been such
terrific pressure on the Truman
administration TO help that Israel
got lions share of the portion
Now. the situation is leveling
off You know. we must be
objective about this. and COM
pletelY Unconditional ="
Louise" I ventured, as it fair
to compare the needs of state
only six years old, founded on a
land which has been neglected for
thousands of years, manned by a
refugee people, penniless and OBJ
jects of social welfare Is it
fair to compare Israel with the
Arab states who are ruled by
dynasties who are fabulously
wealthy, and have enormous in
comes? :"
I'VE must be objective" said
Mrs. Mcdaniel. and her eyes be.
came very misty and her little
nose turned slightly reddish
You know. they have made won
derful strides in Israel When
we first came. there was so much
! empty space with nothing grow
ing There still is plenty of
land which can be planted. and
much empty space around the
houses Of course. this has
been improved Today there
is enough food for everyone in
Israel. but when we came. there
was nothing TO eat-just a little
eggplant. some cabbage and a few
potatoes There was no meat.
and the bread was very bad
She told us that she had con-
ceived of the plan to have ten
thousand American school chill
dren each send a package of seeds
to ten thousand Israeli children
She particularly wanted this
to stem from the non-Jewish pub
lie However, nothing ever
came of the idea No one on
this side of the Atlantic picked it
up-much to the great disappoint-
ment of Mrs. Mcdaniel !. :. How
ever, it is this type of thinking,
and her acceptance of a pioneer
way of life that has made Louise
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