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Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1954-09-12
WHY PAY RENT?
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BRICK COLONIAL, S17.9BO
BUY OF THE YEAR
The owner Of this home is in foreign
service and is selling at O give-aW
Chase. Six large, well proportioned
rooms and bath. side screened
porch, full bsmt.. bath; det.
garage: large level lot. Open today,
! III sold; Dir; Out 18th st.. to
on Colston to Blaine and open sign.
CAPITAL REALTY CO.
10. 9-0673. Il no answer, WE. 5-b827
SILVER SPRING
BRK. RAMBLER-SCR. PORCH
Three-bedrm. brick rambler, with nice
rear screened porch, din. "L," pull
down stairway to attic. fenced rear
yard; assume high CT loan, terms
arranged, $14,600.
Higgins & Harrison, Inc.
10. $500 It'll Q PM. Realtors
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CULORED-g-UN1T BRICK
1887 e st. Sc.
3 Bedrms. ca. $1,000 Down.
Elk. 3-67O7. RIA 3-0I40

FOR SALE--COLORED
H ST. Sc. OFF BENNING RID. :.
Bemidet. brick, APPROX. 8 yrs. old
Three bedrms., liy.-din. rm., lge
equip. kit, Ia baths, full bsmt.,
yard; $1,000 down, easy monthly
9-4103 or RA. 6-S3O7. Ia
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4O1 0O1t1AG - L. DE.
OPEN TODAY, 3-DARK
OWNER MUST SELL
Little Cash-Pick Up Note
Colonia1-style. front-porch brick nome
OF B rms. and 2 baths; arranged
nice back I'd. Can LU. -3342. Ma.
S-9797; ewes, OIL. 2-6610.
Capital View Realty Co.
CoLoRED-OPEN SUNDAY . 70 q
$12,950! $85 MOI
ssn ics Ssn Drle asss r. sf Gd 81 nuse 'ard
DETACHED BRICK
Only 1905 down; spotlessly clean;
bsmt:. yard: 5024 HANNA PLs Sc.
CoLoRED-oPEN 2 10 8
1180 46th PL. Sc.
! BLOCK OFF II AND BENNING RID.
$50 Per Mo.-$850 Down
FULL BSMT.-LARGE LOT
Lovely semidet. brick: large bedrmss,
tile bath. gas heat. storm windows
and screens, wall-to-wan carpeting.
Anchor fenced yard: near schools,
shops, Esrly possession. eeo,o
MA. s-O223; ewes. IA. 9-4679
COLORED
$3.50 DOWN-POSSESSION
146 D ST. Sc.
Row brick; 8 rms, 2 apis; gas heat;
bsmt. yfEy gSod n eond Ne az busiine.
AID. 4-O531. Ewes. JE. 3-9l09.
-If
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a acre; $4,000 $500 S V-l to nS approved &c
vet: modernized farm house, lge
garage-shop comb. Ask for Fulton
SANDY SPRING REALTY CO.
BETHESDA ENGLISH VILLAGE
New 3-bedrm. rambler; liv. rm. with
firepl., sep. din. rm.. full bsmt.. lge,
wooded lot. Open Sun. til dark. Out
Bradley blvd. LIZ. mi. from Wis. ave
sign. NICHOLSON CALDWELL. 81.
2-0207.
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SILEEK SPRING, Wheaton Hills, 3OO9
Midway st.---Open Sun, 1:3O to s;
most attract. and immac., clean 3
nedrm RAMBLER and bath; lge. liv.
paneled rec. rm. with bar; beautiful
lot with plenty Of trees; rear yard
FENCED In with white picket fence
this Is indeed q. charmer in 8 well
estab; and desirable community; close
Ga, ave-. V mi beyond Wheaton.
turn left on Parker ave. right on
Judson and ! blk. to Midway.
BRoussARD AGENCY, INC. III.
T-S051; Sun. and eyes,. .JU. 9-2l57.
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M h-AR
WHEATON HiLLs-By owner; 2
hedrn. rambler. large den, frepl
Sl Rsa Ss' .v sna Lo ouF sas1 t. Sj
wHEAToN-An architects dream
Brick and glass rambler, with
bedrms.. din.-liv. comb. with uniau,
mrepl. $1,000. Assume CT loan
left on Viers Mil I'd. to Bainun
Real Estate sign. ~. $1,000.
WOOD ACRES-6 rms. with 2 baths
ssraen. OWNER. OIL 81. s-s4ss.a . 1.i:
WOOD ACRES-Det. brick; 8 hedrms
baths. screened porch. brick patio
auto. wash. mach. Lovely seiec
community: excellent schools. Mus
be seen to be appreciated. Pric
SIS. ESQ. Open SUM-. 2-6 or by appt
Call OIL. 4-66B6. Drive out Mass
az ave. w DIV: to 900 block. turn rig s
LARGE WOODED IOT with s-beti
room brick Colonial; screened porch
20-foot living room, stone fireplace
modern Kitchen with bay window
diversified dining room: top condi
ton: 1890; 81 or conventional
LAsGE RAMBLER OFF MASS. AYR
Fine big 3-bedrocm. 2-bath brk
rambler Tor S26. 500: fuii Basement
2.cer garage. screened porch; beau
FRaN EKoossd p ;HsItitlnG On l9t 75T11599
ives. OF. 4-fss5. . = rs
NON-vETERAN - Assume ~ loan
S-hedrm.,. 2-yr.-cld home; lge.. lot
fully equip. kit: blinds thrcuehout
tile bath; nr. new school and park
uus service. $500 dn,, S66.SS mo
pays al. Total price, $1,000. From
OWNER, 706 crabh ave. Rockville
NEAR 81. MrCHAEL.s In sil spg.
very convenient: all-hrick home o
o rooms. double rec. room. 3 baths
2 screened porches; huilt-in garage
walking dist. to churches, school
and business center. Price just re
duced TO $23.g50. RIPLEY 4
MAR ST. Johns SCHOOI--Bricl
expandahle home on well-landscape
lot; this home features living rm
sep. din. rm.. kitchen with tahl
Ss. sDi priss. s Si5aso an nr RE
TIoNS: Out Georgia ave. to Augus
q. rishs o. August 70 coSy, rlsh
iilss "a: ave. To- 10. 4-zscS. la
rec. RIM h baths. saraEe, Gig
gcaped lot. Win finance Price
$1,000, Can b seen at 11el
Cote6viiie ~.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1954-09-12

BETHESDA-A lovely home for you
that Just radiates charml 3 full bed
rms. 2 tiled baths. de luxe. kitchen.
doesn't offer much. much more than
those YOU have recently seen at
$23,g50: Call OIL. $4,000. ALLIED
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CHEVY CHASE. MARYLAND

SILVER SP0. CLOSE-IN
Expan. 2-bedrm. all-brk. home. Comp
renovated. scrs porch, alum. storm
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SILVER sPKING--61s Sligo Ave:
thing: comfortable older home in
excel. condition on large lot, z rms.
path and powder rm., gas h.-w.h..
ige. modern kit. with good table
Sl6.950. For sale By owner. ~. g.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1954-09-12

BETHESDA, S1s.5Oo-- This modern
brick rambler has been Gil approved
for Just 1925 down, balance in fUw
monthly payments. Nothing else can
compare with 3 bedrms.- and full
bsmt. now on market. OIL. $4,000.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1954-09-12

Sb00-D0WN, including settlement.
This attractive bungalow: priced at
Kitchen. 2 bedrms. and bath: fuil
bsmt.: gas heat; large lot; walking
distance to schools. MODERN REAL
TY CO., INC. JU. 7-535O. Open
Evening star., 1954-09-19
APIS. URFuRNlsHEDD. c.

Mr.. 4th AND ATLANTIC s.E.-3
Ho. 2-6o2o. MOSS. La. 6-3e2s.
Is4e 18th ST. N.w.-Beautifuii q
bedrw apt, entire 4. all-new kit;;
lPETWOkTH NM beorn.. S6l 10
mo-; heat included. Ho. 2-6020.
5oo6 LIST ST. NV, Apt. 1--2 rooms.
| kitchen and bath: conv. to shop
ping and transp. completely redsc; 6 .
Sgsa SEALL q Z HoWSRD' aosPsisiS1 INC. cSR NA. !.
800 s4th ST. s.E.-Duplex apt: Z
rooms, kitchen and bath: S55.40
4SSSSs 4SSSSs GEORGIA AVE. N.w.-con.
veniently located apt. containing 4
mo-. mo- :. Ma. "a s-soss. OLIVER I. CARR.
issa saliSs ifSRsvING ST, N,w.-Hsatsao UP, a
cAFSiToL ckAfS 8 i'H HiLhMattractive ilvlsit apart.
ment with large rooms; patio and
garden. liying room. bedroom
essn esa stdasas sa spsse oSsrs s0ssss
and hot water. No children Or pets,
c6RNfs l5slsefs .BnSsM aislSisS AIR. nsaly dec
new new refgrs Alb heat. III b water: E3s = elec; I,
ss;s ls.s .s, e ~ si:s s:s il: ii
asss SaDe WooDLEY S5tp LEY PL. NV, nea,
Sheraton Park Hotel; 2-bedrni, apt
els 1ss III aAIsxrfS Eek fsc ST. sar N4GEntir, 4 Sas
End door, 3 rms, kit, pvt. bath
| newly decor, utils. incl, COW
1 ALABAMA AVE. AND 11th PL. Sc.
aao7 a iitshen' l1eh plTSSo OasS a5a sssar5as me isy
Rlqss as'i aHs ise Sis Sss adisas SaosSs sVs
oanjTTs;;rSAiDffNG ajT;; All fsSS'Vvl VALUE, se5, mo,
Boiling Field area, 59 Forester ss
T vsn Blinds. aG I1shs rs. das:ss. slssa Eisi Es
bath. heat and INV. incl; cony
SR8Nk faSP 'EanfR 3. SRa1L2fps S1n'i EN- 'si2s7s
DUPLEX ], APT newly; psElz dss IT, 4ns t, Me- Eit
BiRaItG;HifFWoooD. iat;i 45i5 9th st. NV
mod. Kit, mod; shower. bath. back . g
and front porch; dlolbl | block Ga. ave-
essn QUIET ss sdus hts sasa s0s5sa 5as
Reasonable: JU 5-63o5. -.
rms, pvt: bath, Ink. Fine conv
utils. incl. KE. 7-Q013.
$40 11th ST. S.E.--2 rms. kit. and
bath in pvt det. home; $65 mo
! incl utils. Ii. 6-6023 IL :
/ N. CAPITOL AND r STS..s at 149
| st. n.e.-Large 2-bedrm.. living rnl.
dining rm.. bath apt; plus porch a.
h.-w SHANNON & IlUCHS CO., 724
| 14th st. NV. Ma. S-2345
GEORGETOWN with FIRE.
pl., mod. kit. and bath. AID. 4-7267
GEORGETOWN bedrm., liv. rm
with firepl., mod. kit. newly dec
| utils. incl. AID. 4-7267.
928 MARYLAND AVE. N.E.-Beautt-
| full lge. 2-bedrm. apt: 1st A.; pvt
| bath: inquire bsmt. apt. after i am
CAPITOL HILL, 43S New Jersey ave
| seq lge. rms, kit, bath: 500 30
| incl. utils. Call Ii. 6-6567.
$3.50. 18th ST. -bedrm. apt
very large rms, modern apt. bldg.
conv. transp., shopping. schools, Chs.
$3.50, incl. utils. RA. 6-2291.
903 HAMILTON ST. N.W.--Lovel,
| duplex, 2 bedrmS.. incloSed bacl
porch. full S7car be ,f upstairs
lge. liv. rn.. kitchen. n bath ant
screened back porch on 1st floor
all utils. incl; $1l0. RA. 3-3S23
Evening star., 1954-06-08
SIurns
CONTINUED From First PAGE J


proposal relates solely to housing
inspection.
Health Officer Daniel L. Seek
niger sent a memorandum to
commissioner Camalier which
the Commissioner read to the
board. In it, DR.. Seckinger
praised the Citizens Advisory
Council for it's action yesterday.
which he described as reason
able, constructive and practical. ."
he also said his department will
compromise on any policy which
is reasonable, logical and in the
best interest of the community.
Council members said the
council hearing made it appar-
ent the present tenement house
regulations and proposed code
haven't had sufficiently real
iStic approach. to allow a rea-
Sonable amount of housing in
the District to qualify"
5-t0-2 Vote.
BY So vote, they decided to
recommend that the functions
of the Health Department and
the Department of Licenses and
Inspections be left as they are
until this realistic code we have
been speaking of has been pre-
pared and adopted and that the
Commissioners then see If it
Evening star., 1954-06-08
MiddIe-of-the-Roud
Program Is Pushed
At Chestertown
By Gornett D. Horner
Star Siaff cerrespendent

CHESTERTOWN. Md. June
8.-President Eisenhower doesn't
want any "busybody" Govern
ment in Washington.
He warned against such a de-
velopment in speaking out for
his middle-of -the-road legisla-
tive program in an informal talk
at Washington College here late
yesterday after receiving an
honorary doctor Of laws degree.
The President spoke after a
campaign-like drive for 40 miles
through the Delaware and Mary
land Eastern Shore countryside,
cheered on by crowds swelled by
fiag-waving school children in
Dover, DEL, and four small towns
between there and Chestertown.
He few from Washington to
the Dover Air Force base and
drove back there to return to
Washington late yesterday in
his personal plane, the Colum-
bine.
Possibly with an eye to the
November elections. Republican
legislators from both Maryland
and Delaware rode with the
President. But the White House
could say it was a non-political
trip because Democratic Senator
Frear Of Delaware also was
along.
AS he promised at news con-
Evening star., 1954-06-08

ference last week that he would
do at every public appearance
from then on. Gen. Eisen-
hover put in a plug at the com.
mencement exercises for his leg.
islative program of social secur-
ity. farm. tax. housing. health
and education proposals before
Congress.
He said all his proposals are
proper spheres for govern
mental action" But he warned
that 1T is up to all of us" to see
that such services are limited to
what must be and what need be.
and doesn't over-step and get
into something where they are
being merely busybodies." He
also asserted that "all govern.
ments are greedy" and like to
reach out and take everything"
He insisted. however, that his
program has been devised to
help define this line between the
proper function of government
and those fields which it should
not invade"
The President spoke from a
f1ag-draped stand on the l72-
year-old campus that protected
him from the sun. He was the
fourth President to receive an
honorary degree-his 22d-from
the college. The others were
Presidents Washington, Franklin
D. Roosevelt and Truman.
Evening star., 1954-06-08

pressure were leaked to the press.
showed Army Counselor John
Adams telling Mr.. Carr, Nc
Carthy staff director, that Pvt.
Schine was "a damned good SOL
dier" who probably would be sent
to leadership school" at the end
of basic.
Still another showed Mr..
Stevens assuring Mr.. Cohn, "the
way you have played ball with
me has been 100 per cent-my
system of working has been the
same as yours for years."
Mr.. Clifford was brought into
the Army-McC Carthy picture last
February by Senator Symington.
Secretary Stevens sought SEN
ator Symington's help when Sen
ator McCarthy's investigation of
Communist infiltration in the
Army appeared to be threaten
ing the morale of the officer
corps. Senator Symington told
Mr.. Stevens he needed a good
lawyer: Mr.. Stevens asked Sen
ator Symington to suggest one,
and Senator Symington named
Mr.. Clifford.
The sequence of events caused
Senator Mccarthy to charge yes
terday that the whole present
investigation has been a plot
against him master-minded by
"the legal adviser to the Demo-
crat Party"
Evening star., 1954-06-08
Dulles
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i
Indo- China. He counted this as
progress.
Mr.. Dulles also noted that the
f1ve-power military talks now
going on at the Pentagon are
aimed at assessing the military
possibilities in Indo-China so
that if and when it is necessary
to take political decisions, a
military evaluation will be at
hand.
Favors Meeting on Guatemala.
On other foreign policy prob
lens, Secretary Dulles said:
/. The United States favors a
meeting of Latin American
foreign ministers to discuss the
Communist dangers in Guate-
mala, but has made no decision
for making such a formal pro-
posal pending further consulta-
tions with the American repub-
lies. He scoffed at a suggestion
of Guatemalan President Jacabo
Arbenz that the U. S.-Guate-
malan differences stem from
Guatemala's difficulties with the
American-owned United Fruit
Co. Mr.. Dulles said that If
United Fruit gave Guatemala a
gold piece for every banana the
problem of Communists in
Guatemala would remain.
2. There have been more high
level defections among Soviet Of
ficials in the last six months than
ever before. This, he said, has
given Russian officials as much
home work" as the Guatemalan
problem has given the United
States.
3. A f1ve-man panel to hear
security charges against career
diplomat John P. Davies has
been picked and is now studying
documentary evidence. The
hearing, he said, will start at a
fairly early date.
Evening star., 1954-06-08

inspectors are trained in health
matters. Later when he was
asked if a health inspector could
judge the condition of a defec-
tive toilet better than a plumbing
inspector in Licenses and Inspec-
tions, he said that didn't need
any training.
Col. Giles Evans, jr., acting
director of Licenses and Inspec-
tions-Health inspectors could
not be regarded as highly quail
fled because they held low
grade ratings (GS and g..
Under questioning, he said he
believed the tenement house
regulations were too stiff and too
technical.
Mr.. IIgenfritz-Defects might
be uncovered by health inspec-
tors. but the correction of de-
fects require a building permit
and a field inspection by Lii
censes and Inspections. Then,
after corrections were made and
approved, he said, there was a
question whether health inspec-
tors would approve them. He
urged the council not to be con-
fused by heavy medical terms
because we're talking about
buildings and houses and the
people who live in them" If his
department had more author
ity, he said. the tenement and
housing codes would be more
practical.
Ralph I. Johnson of the
United States Public Health Serv-
ice-Eighty-f1ve per cent of the
elements in a housing code ap-
ply to health. He said depart
ments should work together. but
the Health Department should
administer the housing code.
Mort Saber, National AsSocia-
ton of Home Builders-He said
he has worked on the Baltimore
housing plan-now under the
Health Department there-and
found an "inordinate amount of
red tape" overlapping and du-
plication. He said it is COM
pletely unwieldy for five differ
ent inspectors to go into a house
and all see the same things.
Evening star., 1954-06-08
Stevens Declares
He Never Considered
Quitting Rough Job
BY the Associoted Press

WEST POINT, N. Y, June 8.
Secretary of the Army Ste
vens said today he has had a
trough" time, but has never
considered turning back from
his job.
Without mentioning directly
his dispute with Senator Nc
Carthy, Republican, of Wiscon-
sin, Mr.. Stevens made unmis-
taxable illusions to it in an ad-
dress prepared for commence
ment exercises at the United
States Military Academy.
He said he has served the
Army three times, twice as an
officer in the two world wars,
now as Secretary of the Army.
Then he commented:
"This task to which the Presi-
dent called me has not been an
easy one.
"The going has been pretty
rough sometimes. so rough that
1t taxes ones endurance, but I
have not for a moment regretted
that undertook it, nor once
considered turning back"
Mr.. Stevens also made an
oblique reference to his testi-
mony before the Senate subcom-
mittee investigating the dispute.
He told about going recently to
Formosa and being asked to
make a speech to a vast Chinese
audience
"As I faced that huge crowd"
Mr.. Stevens said, II spoke a few
words of greeting and tried to
arrange in my mind a few ap-
propriate thoughts. was re-
lieved when an interpreter picked
up my first sentence and trans
lated it into at least a paragraph
OF Chinese, giving me time to
think ahead. My second sem
tence became another long Chi
neSe harangue, and so it went.
I discovered then and there the
advantages of speaking through
an interpreter, for I realized
that you can make a speech with
relatively: little effort and have
plenty of time to weigh every
word. 80 s$8
u can assure you there have
been moments in Washington
during the past month and
half when the extra time might
have been helpful"
Evening star., 1954-06-08
'Busybody' Government Hit
By Eisenhower in College Talk
What President Said ,
Not What He Meant,
Causes Double Take
HESTvERTOW

CHESTERTOWN, Md,
June 8.-President Eisen-
hower's listeners did a
double-take when he made
this remark at Washington
College commencement ex-
ercises here yesterday:
Il do want to tell this
student body that no matter
what they hear about WASH
ington, D. c., I have two
United States Senators and
one Congressman here today
with me, to prove that we do
need brains"
Seated behind the Presi-
dent were Senators Butler
and Beall and Representa-
tive Miller, Maryland Re-
publicanS. There was no
further explanation of the
comment.
Evening star., 1954-06-08
Tax Agents Checking
Mccarthy 'sFinances,
Andrews Declares
BY the Associated Press

DENVER, June st. Coleman
Andrews, commissioner of inter-
nal. revenue, said yesterday his
agency is looking into financial
affairs of Senator Mccarthy,
Republican, of Wisconsin and
will wind up the inquiry within
so days.
Mr.. Andrews told reporters
after speech the investigation
has been in progress for many
months.
In his speech to a group of
Denver civic leaders, Mr.. An
drews confirmed that Senator
McCarthy'S financial affairs are
being checked by internal reve-
nue. agents. He said his depart
ment has no authority to disclose
such Investigations.
But Mccarthy has saved us
the trouble-he has announced
he is being investigated" Mr..
Andrews said.
The commissioner did not say
when the Wisconsin Senator
made such an announcement.
Attorney General Brownell on
October 16. 1858, gave the Sena-
tor a clean bill on personal
finances and possible election law
violations, but said the Govern
ment still was investigating the
Senator's income taxes.
A report issued by a Senate
Elections Subcommittee on jan
uary 2. 1858, raised questions
about Senator McCarthy'S finan-
cial transactions and his role
In the 1850 Maryland senatorial
campaign.
Seantor Mccarthy stumped for
Republican John Marshall But
Ter and helped unseat his old
political foe, Senator Millard
Tydings. Democrat, of Maryland.
Evening star., 1954-06-08
By Mary McGrory

The Senate Caucus Room
Army Mccarthy Reading Circle
has finally passed a milestone.
For six weeks past. the ques-
ton of what to read has been
threatening to tear the group
apart, and even at times to wreck
the reading room. The Army
side, with the Democrats egging
them on, has been pushing for
the Senators to dig into "Moni-
tored Telephone Conversations.
Senator Mccarthy and his
friends have favored uncollected
works of the FBI and reports OF
anonymous authors.
Finally. yesterday, the Army
in a manner of speaking, won
But only in a manner of speak
ing. When finally a breathless
public was plugged in on the
m0Aitored telephone conversa-
tionS, they turned out to be the
biggest let-down since Forever
Amber" became wet firecracker,
Nevertheless. all precautions
were taken. Special Committee
Counsel jenkins, apparently
fearful that anything stronger
than "Fiddlesticks!" would send
the gentler souls in the audience
into a dead faint, proceeded
with a delicacy that would have
done credit to the headmistress
of a young ladies' seminary.
Drinks Watered Down..
In Victorian novels, of course.
aS5erisks were used to indicate
that a veil would be drawn over
certain events. At the hearings,
when strong words loomed up, a
significant pause would occur.
Then "hell" would be softened
to devil" and, in Senator Nc
Carthy's transcript, drinks"
were watered down to refresh
ments."
The reading did not bring to
the fore any latent histrionic
talents either at the Pentagon
or the Capital. Counsellor Jen-
kins and his assistant, Tom
Prewitt, Dixie to the core, made
everything sound like exchanges
between "a couple Of cotton
planters. The various stenogra-
AhesS nom Mr.. Stevens Office
read as if from a seed catalog,
in tones that robbed the words
OF any lurking fire and poison
they might have had. Isl
Every one had a copy of the
calls and they followed them
like a flock of scholars compar-
ing texts of Shakespeare.
What was left unsaid provided
more excitement than what was
said. There was, for instance. a
relatively fierce round over dots.
indicating omissions.
Spots Before Eyes.
MIR. Jenkins counted eight dots
in a transcript.
Mr.. Lucas. from Secretary
stevens office, said, Eyes, sir.
five dots"
Inc tat was in the fire.
I say there are eight" said
Mr.. Jenkins.