Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1954-09-11
Partial Transcript Of Testimony at Corthy eorinq
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F0lIoiDislO IS q partial tram
script Of yesterday afternoons
session OF the Senate commit
tee studying censure charges
against Senator MCCARTHY:
tThe session opened with an
announcement by Chairman
Watkins that the committee had
decided to accept In evidence the
controversial 214-page document
which formed the basis Of one Of
the charges against Senator
McC arthy0
The chairmara-With reference
TO the exhibit offered. the COM
mittee has been in consultation
with the Attorney General. He
states that he has re-examined
his letter to the Mundt Commit
tee. He is still Of the same opin-
ion. that the document Is o secure
ity document and cannot be de-
classified. The committee has
decided to receive this document
in evidence, however, with the
understanding that the security
protection provisions will be en-
forced with respect to it. The
individual members Of the COM
mittee have seen and read the
document. We have discussed it
as q committee.
No one else except members of
the committee have been per-
mitted to enter into the discus
sion to read or see or hear any
part Of this document. The COM
mittee is convinced that the
document is a security document,
and the information in it should
be kept classified. That means,
Of course. that we cannot permit
any cross-examination with re-
spect to the contents Of that doc
ument and we should not receive
any testimony with reference to
its contents, mean. any testi-
mony that can be made public.
We do that, gentlemen, because
Of the necessity of protecting the
interests Of the United States just
as far as it is humanity possible
to do so, and at the same time
attempt to carry out the respon-
sibilities which the Senate placed
in our hands.
Williams Satisfied.
Mr.. williams (Senator Nc
Carthy's counseD Mr.. Chair
man. ] feel that is an eminently
satisfactory way Of handling 1t.
Our whole purpose has been
fulfilled, simply to get the docu-
ment before the committee,
which is all we had ever hoped
to do, so that the committee
would see what we were talking
| about in relationship to testi-
mony already offered.
The chairman want to also
explain that the committee, in
considering the order of the
Senate which placed this matter
in our hands, came to the con-
clusion that the very language
Of the order which says that
the committee shall take such
testimony as it deems advisable,
that authority gives us the dis
erection in q matter Of this kind,
and we feel that since the full
authority of the Senate is back
Of us in this matter, that we
have made the only decision
that we could make under the
circumstances.
It will be somewhat in the
nature Of information which is
furnished to the Judiciary Com
mittee of the Senate and other
committees Of the Senate with
respect to classified information
that comes from the FBI on
appointees. Only the chairmen
of the committees are permitted
to see the files of the FBI when
the matters of appointment OF
various citizens requiring Sem
ate confirmation are considered
No other member of the Senate
gets to see those files. We think
that is q precedent. and for
that reason the information will
stay locked in the hearts and
minds of the members of the
committee, and the document
itself will be placed with the
proper Offices Of the United
States Senate for safekeeping. {.
The staff of the committee will
proceed with cross-examination
Of Senator Mccarthy.
| Mr.. De Furia assistant coun-
seD-Senator Mccarthy, would
like to ask some questions with
reference to the case Of Gen.
Zwicker, If ] may. Would you
mind telling me. Senator, how
long you yourself were in the
military service?
Senator Mccarthy was In
the service a little less than three
years. My rank now is lieu
tenant colonel.
Mr.. De Furia-Now. I assume
that while you were In the mill
tary service, Senator, it was
necessary for you to obey mill
tary orders?
Senator McCarthy-It was.
No Personal Feeling.
Mr.. De Furia- Now, let me ask
you q fair question, I think, SEN
ator; do you have any personal
feeling against Gen. zWicker,
sir?
Senator Nice arthy-No, never
met. Zwicker before he appeared
on the stand.
Mr.. De Furia- Since you have
criticized him, and ] think
rather severely, and / am not
entering into the merits or de-
merits Of what you did. Senator,
7 take it that the fair inference
is that you think his conduct
|sil1Stified vniir criticism IL that