Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1954-09-11

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cursing he did at me that morn
ing.
Mr.. De FuriaOf course, sir,
that is your conclusion.
Senator Mccarthy Well,
would be the only one, ] believe,
who could conclude that. / was
examining him. None Of you
were there.
Denies Criticism.
Mr.. De Furia Senator, in all
fairness. wasn't some Of your
criticism Of Gen. Zwicker and
your statements about him and
his attitude really intended for
the benefit Of the Army and not
Gen. Zwicker?
Senator Mccarthy II don't
think you could call those criti-
cisnls. It Is just q method OF
cross examination. trying to get
the truth.
Mr.. De Furia- When you say to
q general, SIR. that he is moi
ut to wear the uniform after
serving In the Army for IS
years. you don't consider that q
criticism?
Mr.. Williams don't think
that question Is predicated upon
the facts, Mr.. De Furia. You
have fallen into a very common
error. Z. The record shows that
the statement which was made
was that ANY man who has
been given the honor Of being
promoted to general and who
says i. lis not at to wear that
uniform, general"
Now. / think in the interest
Of an impartial examination. we
should stick to the record and
not pose questions that are moi
predicated upon the facts.
Mr.. De Furia- MIR. Williams
! win accept that language and
hope I didn't use any other
language.
Senator Mccarthy had
asked the general whether or moi
he felt a man such as Peress
without repeating the question
q man guilty Of a felony, q felony
calling for five years imprison-
ment- there is no question about
that-a man known to be 9
Communist
MIR. De Furia--May stop you
sir. ! am asking you now di-
rectly: What was the statemen,
you made about the
Senator Mccarthy win read
from page 1853 (of the record)
Answer: Then. general, you
should be removed from any
command, Any man who ha.
been given the honor Of beine
promoted to general and who
says. I will protect another gen.
eral who protected Communists.
is not fit to wear that uniform
general"
Distinction Explained.
MIR. De Furia--Now, as I I'm.
derstand it, you are making .
distinction. and you have testi.
ned what you really meant wa,
the uniform of a general ant
not the general Army uniform
Is that correct, sir?
Senator McCarthy-That /,
exactly what I said, and that /,
exactly what I meant.
Mr.. De Furia-- n. Senator
would you mind telling us what
was the exact question, thai
you addressed to Gen. Zwicker
that you say could have beer
answered by any s. year : Ole
child? Frankly, have had some
difficulty with it and I would
like to hear the question. il vol
] VAL 6AVC ~ w Us.
Sen. McCarthy-Page 1872 (oj
the record, the last question,
Let us assume that John
Jones is a major in the Unitec
States Army. Let us assume thai
there is sworn testimony to the
eject that he is part of the
communist conspiracy, has at
tended Communist leadership
schools. Let us assume that Mai
John Jones is under oath before
q committee and says, I cannot
tell you the truth about these
charges because, If I did. I fear
that might tend to incriminate
me- Then let us say that Gen
Smith was responsible for this
man receiving an honrable dis
charge, knowing these facts. Dc
you think that Gen. Smith
should be removed from tie
military. or do you think he
should be kept on in it?" And
then that was qualified by point
Ing out, on page 1853, the second
question. that I am referring to
q general not who is acting under
orders. but who originated the
order directing the honorable
discharge; and then, when the
general said he should by all
means be kept on, I made the
statement which I made. I stand
by that statement. I feel it very
very strongly.
Mr.. De Furia- Senator. wher
Gen. wicker was testifying ur
in New York, did you know that
ne was not q free witness. il
the sense that he was bound by
orders Of the President and or
ders of the Secretary of the
Army?
Refuse to Make Request.
Senator Mccarthy - Gen
wicker said that he would not
be allowed to give security in
formation. unless he had the per-
mission Of the Assistant CHIEF
OF Stan of ca. He. was asked
to request that permission. He
refused to request the permis-
sion. We. however, were not
questioning him about security
matters; we were questioning
him about personnel matters,
which would not be covered hv