Evening star., 1954-09-08


rule that he may proceed and
60 on with the testimony.
Asks for Source.
Mr.. De Ftiria--who handed you
the 2A page letter which you
said was your copy?
/ MIR. Winchell-I refuse to tell
that.
Mr.. De Furia-On what ground
do you refuse to tell it?
Mr.. Winchell II will not reveal
the source Of information.
Mr.. De Furia-I am asking you,
sir. on what grounds you refuse
to answer that question.
Mr.. Winchell-On the grounds
I just gave you, sir.
/ Mr.. De Furia- Unless ! am
mistaken. Mr.. Winchell. you have
not given me any grounds. You
said you refused to answer the
question. Now. ! am asking you,
on what grounds do you refuse
to answer?
Mr.. Winchell-I would not re-
veal my source Of information on
any news.
Mr.. De Furia-You had a meet
ing about an hour ago with
Senator Watkins. Judge Chad
wick and myself, did you not,
Mr.. Winchell?
Mr.. Winchell-That is right.
Mr.. De Furia-You made GER
tain statements to us at that
meeting, did you not?
Mr.. Winchell-I did.
Mr.. De Furia-Are you shifting
your position In any way from
what you told us then, to what
you are telling us now?
Mr.. Winchelle- No. know that
will say what I said to you
downstairs. at the finish. that I
would not reveal my source Of
information, even If knew it.
The Chairman-Well, are you
not just laboring the point a
little, or do you actually know
who delivered it to you?
Mr.. Winchell-I do not know.
] am not sure.
The Chairman-Had you said
that before, it would have saved
a lot Of difficulty.
Mr.. Winchell-I thought
would expedite things, sir. and
get to the point.
The Chairman-Well, that was
the way to get to the point, II
you did not know it. If you do
not know the person who gave
1t to you; and that is what
understood you to tell us at the
interview.
Mr.. Winchell-That is right.
Can't Identity Source.
MIR. De Furia-Do you have
any knowledge about who gave
you the COPY?
+ MIR. Winchell-n I knew
Counsel, I would not tell you.
The Chairman-Did you gel
q full view of the person who
handed it to you?
Mr.. Winchell-No, I did not.
Mr.. De Furia-Mr. Winchell
do I understand you to state
now. under oath. you do not
know who gave you your copy
of that 2A page letter?
Mr.. Winchell-Yes, sir.
Mr.. De Furia-Was he In uni
form or in civies?
Mr.. Winchell-I believe he was
in civilian clothes.
Mr.. De Furia-A man or
woman?
Mr.. Winchell-Mal3
Mr.. De Furia-White or col
ored?
Mr.. Winchell-White.
Mr.. De Furia-About how old,
Mr.. Winchell?
Mr.. Winchell-I really don't
know.
Mr.. De Furia-Was he a men,
ber of Senator McCarthy's staff?
Mr.. Winchell-I don't think so,
Mr.. De Furia-Are you sure
about it?
Mr.. Winchell-I'm not sure.
| Mr.. De Furia-Of course, II
was not Senator Mccarthy who
handed it to you?
| Mr.. Winchell-No.
(Mr. Winchell said he kept the
2K page<letter in his possession
for about a week and a half and
that he didn't show it to any
one.)
Mr.. De Furia-No one at all?
| Mr.. Winchell-Nobody saw the
text.
Mr.. De Furia-Did you show
any part to anyone?
Gee. Look What I Have"
/ Mr.. Winchell-When I took Il
out Of my pocket. with othel
papers. to look at what I haG
collected during that recess,
believe I said to the men sittine
near me at the press table. about
here. Gee. look what I have
Mr.. De Furia-What did yol
do with your copy of the ~,
page letter?
4 Mr.. Winchell - I contacted
John E. Hoover at once about it
or as soon as I could get to 9
telephone.
! Mr.. Williams-I don't thinl
Mr.. Winchell Is competent te
tell this committee what Mr.
Hoover has said about this let.
ter. think only Mr.. Hoover Ii