Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1954-09-10

This document has never been
classified by Mr.. Hoover.
The Chairmar-The Attorney
General passed on it and said it
was classified and refused to
permit 1t to be used or disclosed.
And we are relying on that. We
are not trying to go back of It
and start all over again. We take
what the other committee did as
evidence.
Senator Mccarthy. .. Let
me say this. Mr.. Williams, that
I hope that the members Of the
committee examine this docu-
ment. They will find that there
is no security information in it.
They will find that this is q
warning Of subversion at the ra-
dar laboratory.
The Question has
been raised as to the propriety
of the Senator reading certain
portions. It has been ruled in
the other committee that it was
classified. It was regarded as a
classified document. The At.
torney General said it could not
be made public and I do not
think the committee is going to
read this document under the
circumstances.
Mr.. Williams-Then I ask, Mr..
Chairman, if at this time, this
committee will not look at this
I don't see how it can pass upon
whether it Is spurious, or not. /
just don't know how to defend
our charge without showing it
is, showing you that is is not
spurious, that it purports to be
just what it is, something with
the security and classified infor-
nation deleted from 1t. And it
is clearly deleted from it and
there was not attempt to indi-
cate otherwise. because that is
right on the fact of 1t.
The Chairman - Well, OF
course. I say all of this I could
strike out as being completely
incompetent because the docu-
ment itself would speak for it
self, but under the peculiar cir
cumstances pertaining to this en-
tire transaction and the docu-
ment itself, the committee does
not feel it ought to do that. We
allowed you to testify in a gen.
eral nature with respect to it.
Now, we will take under advice
the matter you have offered. If
you have offered it. Evidently
you are going to offer it into
evidence or you are wanting to
read it.
Wants to Read 1t.
! Mr.. williams want to read
1t. sir, because there is no security
information in 1t.
/, The Chairman-Are you offer
ing it in evidence?
Mr.. Williams-Yes.
The Chairman--At this mo-
ment ! will say. on behalf Of
the committee, that we will take
the matter under advisement.
And in the meantime, before we
decide whether: to read sit or not.
the possession OF. the document
will be left where it came from.
Senator McCarthys In hiss pos
session. Nov, If the committee
has another view on that after
our deliberations in executive ses-
sion, we will make that known.
The Chairman - just one OF
two questions the chair wants to
ask and then he viii yield to
Senator Stennis, who would like
to ask some questions. ! would
like to ask of Senator Mccarthy
Is this the identical document
which was exhibited and offered
in evidence in the Army-Mc-
Carthy proceeding?
Same Document.
Senator McCarthy-It is. I am
not sure it was offered in evi-
dence. It was given to Secretary
Stevens and he was asked
whether or not this was a copy
of something in the Army files.
I don't think it was offered in
evidence.
The Chairman Now, when
there was some examination of
it, there was an indication in the
record that you had in your
hand, you and Mr.. Cohn, or
somebody who was working with
you. another copy Of that same
document.
Senator Nice arthyNo.
The Chairman - Was that a
fact? Did you. or did you not,
have such a copy?
Senator Mccarthy - We did
not.
The Chairmap-You were not
using anything in your hands
that purported to be a copy OF
this as the basis for your exam
nation?
Senator McCarthy-No.
The Chairman-Do you know
whether there are any other
copies Of this in. existence. OF
not?
Senator McCarthy-The JUS
tice Department asked for a
copy.
The Chairman-Do you know
it?
Senator McCarthy-The an
swer is yes. the Justice Depart
ment asked for a copy of this
letter. We made a copy. gave
it to the Justice Departments
Senator Stennis-The primary
question is: Now, Mr.. Williams,
do you actually offer this docu-
ment there, which we are talk
ing about. in evidence here for
the record?
The Chairman-Tha has been
done.
Senator Scientists that your
position?
The Chairman - That has