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Evening star., 1952-10-17
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Ruth's Antique Shops
first
ANTIQUE AUCTION
Sat. Oct. 1e starting e:3o am. A
Funk*town. l mi. E. Hagerstown. Nd.
LARGE STOCK OF FINE
ANTIQUES
THOs. J. OWEN d SON. Aucticneer1..
435 Southern Building.

TEqstsss' s4asy SALE Of Valuable Two
BRICK DWELLING BEING KNOWN
-MARyLASNpp' yLASNp'3Ih AvENuEo' uFoM6FH NoRTHEias2Tc' is2c
BY virtue OF q certain deed Of tnst
duly recorded. in Liber No. s3SS'
Folio 2SO ct seq, Of the land rec: rec.
ords Of the District OF Columbia.
and at the request OF the party se-
cured thereby. the undersigned
trustees win sell. at public auction.
n front Of the premises. ON TUES
nAY The TWENTY-EIGHTH DAY
O'CLOCK PM. the folioWins.de.
scribed land and premises, situste
in the District Of Columbia ard
DESIGNATED as and being part Of
!ot l9. Miller's subdivision OF orie-
niat recorded in auf the once S; ef fs ths
surveyor for the District Of Colum-
bia In Ltber. l6 at folio 90: being
more, particularly. described ny metes
TERMS OF SALE: ALL CASH. A de-
posit Of 100000 will be required at
time OF sale. All conveyancine. re-
cording.. revenue stamps. etc. at cost
OF purchaser. Terms Of sale to be
complied with within thirty days
from day Of sale. otherwise the
trustees reserve the right to resell
defaulting purchaser. after five days
advertisement Of such resale in some
newspaper published in Washington.
HOWARD BERNSTEIN.
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CONTINUED on Next Passl
Evening star., 1952-10-17
By GrontIond Rice

NEW YORK, Oct. 17.-This
week end will see action for the
following unbeaten and united
teams in the so-called upper
circles:
Alabama. California, Southern
California, Maryland, Navy, Mich
igan State, Villanova, Kansas,
Duke. Stanford, Colgate, UCLA,
Virginia, Holy Cross and Georgia
Tech.
The teams with the toughest
assignments are Maryland and
Navy-in head-on collision
UCLA and Stanford, two big West
Coast rivals. Michigan State
against Syracuse. Alabama against
Tennessee and Kansas in a hurri-
cane test with Oklahoma. Other
dwellers of spotless town look safe
for the day.
So here we go-The East:
NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. has
been better than expected this
season. Her line is exceptionally
good, but Maryland has begun to
roll. Maryland has too many 16-
inch guns. Maryland plus Jack
Scarbath.
SYRACUSE MICHIGAN
STATE. Syracuse is equipped to
give Michigan State a stout argu-
ment, but Yewcic, Wells and others
are too fast and too good. Michi-
gan State.
PITTSBURGH ARMY. The
chance for a thriller. Army may
do it, but we like this new Pitts
burgh outfit that beat Notre Dame.
Pittsburgh.
The call is Villanova over Boston
College. Pennsylvania over Colum-
bia, Holy Cross over Brown, COL
gate over Harvard, Princeton over
Lafayette. Indiana over Temple,
Dartmouth over Rutgers, Cornell
over Yale, Penn State over Ne
braska. and Holy Cross over
Brown.
The South and Southwest:
The toughest game to pick here
will be the old-fashioned brawl
Evening star., 1952-10-17
10000 Fans Expected
Al CIAA Grid Classic
Here Tomorrow Night

About 10000 fans are expected
to be on hand at Griffith Stadium
tomorrow night when Virginia
State College meets North Caro-
lima College in the sixth annual
Central intercollegiate Athletic
Association National Classic.
The contest, sponsored by the
Is Negro schools which make up
the CIAA, has drawn more than
$4,000 people in the past three
years. and the promoters see no
decline for tonight's game.
Tom johnson of Howard Uni
erSity's athletic department and
chairman of this years classic
committee. calls the game "a
natural"
Both teams are undefeated.
Both play the wide-open game
plenty of passes. pitchouts and
laterals. It's a spectators dream" J"
he says.
Nine members of the Virginia
State and North Carolina squads
are Washington boys. Virginia
States two leading ball carriers
are Washington boys. Leo Miles
and Steve Ellerbe, ex-CardoZo
stars. The fact that they are Car
dozo boys is more than a coinci-
dence, however. The Virginia
coach, Sylvester (SaD Hall was,
until three years ago, coach at
Cardozo.
1t might be coincidental, how
ever, that North Cardinals lead
ing ball-carrier is also product
of the area schools. Fullback Mel
Spencer. who tailed all of his
teams three touchdowns against
st. Augustine two weeks ago,
played his high school ball here
at Dunbar.
Other local boys appearing to-
night include Virginians Ed AL
len at tackle and Ben Waddell and
Russ Williams at guards, all from
Cardozo; Armstrong; Earl Rich
ards at center and Jim Grant, a
185-pounder from Dunbar, at
tackle.
Billy Coward, a senior defen-
sive halfback on the North Caro-
lima eleven and former Dunbar
High star. rounds out the array
of local talent in the blue rib
bon event" of the CIAA.
Evening star., 1952-10-17
Sterling 5000
SPECIAL NOTICES

ARCH. ENGR., 20 yrs. educ. and ex-
per. Reg. ILL.,, Md, Va: avail for
empl,s assoc.' partnership or comm.
NOTICE Is Is HEREBY GIVEN this 18th
day Of October. 1862. that /. Fabius
Fox AaronSon, will not be respon-
sible for any debts incurred by any
one other than myself. FABIUS
FOX AARONSON. 1416 Iris st. NV.
Washington, d. c. --22
] WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE for
any debts contracted by any one
other than myself JOHN WESLEY
MCGUINN 2O26 Savannah pl. s.e.,
Washington, D. C. 1S'
1899 BUICK club coupe Special. mo-
tor 43750S73. serial S3538423, reg
istered in the name OF JAMES E.
HALL. will be sold at auction at
10 am. October 20. 1852. at
HERSON AUTO PARTS g. GLASS,
INC. ~ Florida ave. ne. for
REGISTRATION NOTICE - Electors
of North Beach. Md: This is to
notify you that all qualified persons
must register for town election.
Registration at Pythian Temple,
1912 Ninth st. NV. Saturday. Oct.
IS, 1862, between the hours OF l
pm. and Q pm. LORENA p. WARD,
registration clerk. lis
Evening star., 1952-10-17
Morgan State 10 Test
Howard's Green Line

Howard University's sopho-
more-studded defensive line, be-
lieved by many Bison followers to
be the schools best since the war,
is expected to get it's first real
test Of the season tomorrow
against Morgan State in Balti-
more.
The Bisons' forward wall is un-
scored on to date and has held its
three opponents to less than 100
rushing yards per game.
It could be a different story in
Hughes Stadium tomorrow, how
ever. In it's three games, the
Morgan team has racked up IL
touchdowns and of these only two
have resulted from passes. With
the Howard secondary leading the
Central intercollegiate Athletic
Association in pass defense, Nor
gan Coach Eddie Hurt is almost
certain to restrict his attack to
the ground. Howard has allowed
only II pass completions in SO at
tempts and has nine interceptions.
Four Of the eight linesmen and
backers-up who'll be out to stop
the Baltimoreans' strong rushing
game, are second-year men. They
are John johnson. ex-Cardozo
High tackle. Bob Fulton, a go
pound tackle from Baltimore,
Guard Bill Jacques and Line
backer Herm Flora, a IT'S
FOUNDER from Norfolk.
The remainder of the forward
wall consists of Gil Benson at end,
Bwano Carroll, a 240-pound guard,
and Len Thomas. ex-Dunbar High
star, at the other line hacker
spot. The only senior in the line
is End Aaron Davis, a converted
fullback from Monongahela, Pa.
If the Bisons are able to stop
Morgan tomorrow, it will be their
first win over the Baltimore team
since 1947 and Morgan's first loss
in conference play this year. How
ard has a record of two wins and
one loss thus far. Morgan has a
similar record, but it's loss came
at the hands of Central State, q
non-conference opponent.
Evening star., 1952-10-17
National Trainers Spoil
Junior Johnnies' Sturt

National Training School
spoiled the opener for the ST..
Johns Junior football team with
an 1870 victory yesterday.
Passes from Vern Nichols to
George Jackson and from Jesse
Black to Ed Banks and a 35-yard
run by Nichols accounted for the
touchdoWns.
Evening star., 1952-10-17
Hoyos and Howard Meet
In Soccer Season Opener

An international atmosphere will
prevail tomorrow when George
town and Howard Universities
open their soccer seasons with a
meeting at Howard Stadium at
2:30 pm.
The Hoyas boast players from
Venezuela, Nicaragua, Costa Rica.
Italy. Colombia, and Mexico. The
Howard squad has representatives
from Jamaica, Nigeria. the Gold
Coast, British Guiana, Barbados,
Bristish Honduras, Grenada, Balize
and Sierra Leone. Three Ameri-
cans also are on the Howard team.
Evening star., 1952-10-17
GrontIond Rice's Choices

between Alabama and Tennessee
This contest goes a long way back
and is always a war to the last
play.
There is little to choose between
the two. but Tennessee is the pick.
Close.
We like unbeaten Duke over
North Carolina State, Georgia Tech
over Auburn, Florida over Wander
|bilt, Louisiana State over Georgia,
Clemson over South Carolina, Ken
lucky over Mississippi State, Wake
Forest over North Carolina, Miami
over Richmond, Southern Metho-
dist over Rice, Texas Christian over
Texas A&SM, Tulane over Missis-
sippi, Texas over Arkansas, Baylor
over Texas Tech, and strong Vir-
ginia over Virginia Military Insti-
tute.
Midwest and Far West:
Many big games, vital to the en-
tire season. are set up in these two
big football territories. One is
UCLA VS.. Stanford, both united
and unbeaten. The Rose Bowl
flavor is around this major con-
test. Another will be Kansas and
Oklahoma. Kansas, on a whirl-
wind sweep. has Gil Reich. late of
Army. Oklahoma. after tie with
Colorado. crushed Texas and
Pittsburgh. This can be the top
game of the day. Both have un-
usual offensive strength. Both are
bowl-bound. A nod to Oklahoma
over Kansas in a game that can
easily go either way. Kansas has
the defense-Oklahoma the Of
fense. Watch Reich and Billy
Vessels.
UCLA AND STANFORD. Anoth-
er important party. Red Sanders
Evening star., 1952-10-17
and UCLA get the vote in a close
contact

and UCLA get the vote in a close
contest.
Illinois is named over Minneso-
ia, Michigan over Northwestern.
Michigan has yet to lose a bowl
game. Wisconsin over Iowa. Pur-
due over Notre Dame. Southern
California over Oregon State, Ohio
State over Washington State
well below expected form. Oregon
and Washington about even.
neither very good. California is
the pick over Santa Clara and
Missouri has a slight edge over
Oklahoma A6SM.
copyright. 1852,
North American Newspaper Alliance.)
Evening star., 1952-10-17
Car Credit Team to Risk
Record at Alexandria

Car Credits undefeated football
team will put its 40 season record
on the line against the Alexandria
Rams at 2 pm. Sunday in Alex
andria Municipal Stadium.
Car Credit has amassed a 69-4
record with two ties since the team
was formed in 1916.
Evening star., 1952-10-17
AUCTION SALES
THOS. J. OWEN & SON, Auctioneers,
435 Southern Building.

$50 southern bu1l0ing.
Trustees Sale Of Valuable TWO.
STORY SEMIDETACHED BRICK
SIIIssxp REIMG KNOWN s1% yYT sAs as v PREMISES JH
EAST.
duly recorded, in Liber $3.50, Folio
153 ct seq. Of the land records Of
the District Of Columbia. and at
the request of the party secured
thereby. the undersigned trustees
will sell. at public auction in frcnt
OF the premises. on TUESDAY THE
TTWMrENTY;EIGHTH DAY OF oCTo-
O'CLOCK PM. the following de
in the District of Columbia. and
designated as and being Lot ''F'' in
Frederick Mays subdivision OF lots
In Square 797, as per plat recorded
In Liber N. K. at folios 126 and 1877
in the once Of the Surveyor for the
District Of Columbia.
Terms: Sold subject to a prior deed
Of trust for approximately 81, ,p39.77
further particulars Of which will be
announced at time Of sale; the pur-
paid in, cash. A deposit OF $500 90
REQUIRED. Conveyancing, recording.
etc. at purchasers cost. Adjust.
mentS made as of date of sale.
Terms to be complied with within
thirty days. otherwise deposit for
Ieited and the property may be ad-
vertised and resold at the discretion
Julius F. HAss1N,
CHARLES Z. MITCHELL,
Trustees
Evening star., 1952-10-17

Today a year ago-Harold
Muddy Ruel was named farm
director of the Detroit Tigers.
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21
|Chatty Corner

recently when College Student Os-
car E. Olson of Olympia, hitched
a ride from Seattle, only to be
robbed by other occupants of the
car. Minus SIS.
A Swedish newcomer, Arne Eel
strom, and Norwegian-American
girl, Miss Marian Sabo, were mar
ried recently at University Luth-
eran Church, Seattle. On July Is
they'll travel to Norway and Swed-
en-, a honeymoon trip that will give
Mrs. Felstrom her first look at
Norway. She is the daughter of a
Norwegian fisherman here.
Other Seattle travellers to Swed-
en- this year-Mr. and Mrs. Man.
fred Peterson, Mr.. and Mrs. Oscar
Thurnquist, Mr.. and Mrs. Thorn
berg, Paul Carlstedt, Gunvor Lund-
strom, Mrs. Sture Werner, with
her little daughter, and Miss
Hjordis Sandberg.
4
Sixteen nations, including Nor
way, were represented at World
Cruise" program sponsored by stu
dents at the University of Wash
ington recently. Sylvia Kjellstad
led the Morse group that also in
Guided Ann Mari Simonsen, Per
Hoff, Kristen Johansen, Annabelle
Gulliksen, Orjar Den, Bjorn Strom
and Henrik Lundh.
=
1t is rumored hereabOuts that
the next grand convention of the
Sons of Norway may be held in
Seattle 1854
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21

cation of most beautiful nurses
attended the presentation.
Mr.. Hersholt is currently in New
York and will leave in June for
Denmark to deliver an American
independence Day address on July
4th at the 10th Anniversary of the
Rebild National Park of which he
is the vice-president.
Recently Jean Hersholt present
ed additional rare items from his
Hans Christian Andersen collec-
ton to the Library of Congress.
The items are part of his $4,000
collection of Adnerseniana which
he has willed to the library 'in
gratitude for all this country has
brought to my family and me-"
The presentation was made to
DR.. Luther Evans, head of the Lii
brary of Congress.
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21

Jean Hersholt, who in May be-
gins celebration of his 18th year
as star of the DR.. Christian Show,
was presented with a scroll NAM
ing him THE Doctor We'd Most
Like to Work With" by the AM
erican Nurses Association, when
he arrived in New York from
Hollywood. Presented by Ella Best,
,RN., executive secretary of the
American Nurses Association, the
scroll reads, in recognition of
his unique position as d symbol of
the progressive, devoted and self
sacrificing family doctor and for
his sympathetic presentation of
the highest type of doctor-nurse
relationship, we. the American
Nurses Association, have chosen
DR.. Christion, as portrayed BY
Jean Hersholt, The doctor we'd
most like to work with" A dele
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21
Cerebral Palsy
campaign starts;
hel p needed

United Cerebral Palsy of King
County's third annual campaign
for funds to help the community's
hundreds of palsied children and
adults was launched May Is.
A local goal of $4,000 has been
set for the drive which will con-
tinue to June Is.
Funds collected during the drive
will be used to help expand pres
ent facilities and complete a new
vocational training center, contin-
lie research already undertaken,
foster new and extensive research
and train urgently needed person.
mel.
Stressing the need of the COM
munity's vigorous support of the
1852 campaign so that it may be
outstandingly successful, Honorary
Chairman William F. Devin said
that 'it is the clear responsibility
of every citizen of Seattle to back
which has done so much in so little
time to improve the condition of
our Cerebral Palsied."
Mayor Devin pointed out that
there will be several ways for res
idents of this community to con-
tribute to the campaign. He called
attention to the fact that Wishing
Wells, where contributors can
make wish and drop coin, are
being placed in stores, banks, res
taurants, and other places about
town. In addition, checks to en-
able UCP to broaden it's activities
may be sent directly to campaign
headquarters, United Cerebral Pal
sy, GO Postmaster, Seattle.
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21
Daylight Saving
Okay With Me

AS l said b 4 l m in favor of
all savings, including printers ink.
II spell before" thus: ''b A. & save
on letters & ink etc.
Now speaking of daylight saw
ing. Some like it & some don't.
Well, that is just the trend of
time. Whatever we do, some ap-
prove of it & some condemn it.
My way of spelling 4 instance.
Some think it's o. K. but most of
the readers have told me 2 go
jump in the lake. l will do that 2
when the proper time comes. It's
2 cold yet. When l jump in the
lake, Lake Washington. want a
nice sunny & warm day, so l can
enjoy myself.
Where was I? Lake Washing
ton? No, not yet. Daylight saw
ing, it was. No doubt the change
of time from standard 2 daylight
caused some confusion 4 many &
some ignored it altogether. The
pidgeons back in my alley didn't
give a darn about any daylight
/ saving. Every morning at they
We're sitting on the fence waiting
me ? serve them their breakfast.
Now they don't come out until 9.
They know what time it is, clock
or no clock.
/ have heard a lot of p-pul kick
on this new monkey business. The
trains & buses go by standard
time, we go by daylight saving
time & the bakers don't go at all
They T striking. Y of the state
is on daylight saving & the Other
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21
( Recently Published

Norway to Open Up ItSnr
North. Report on the 10-year plan
for economic - Development of
North Norway With map. Bus
mess Week Magazine, March %,
1852.
Norwegian Journey. BY Garry
Hogg. Enthusiastic description of
a hitch-hike across southern Nor
way, Outstanding for its accurate
observations and correct spelling
of Norwegian names. A happy
adventure story Museum Press
Ltd, London.
Sweden II Must Increase En-
ports to America" by John Erics-
son. Secretary of Commerce of
Sweden. Dun & Bradstreets On
ternational Markets, page IA IF.
April 1852. = rice so cents. Also:
Sweden Its Economy is Bas-
ed on Free Industrial Enterprises
and Foreign Trade" by Allan Kas-
trup, Page IL, IF. With many pho
tographs.
Legends of the North" BY Oh
ivia E. Coolidge. Boston, 1852.
Houghton Mifflin Company. With
illustrations by Edouard Sander.
PSI pp Price $500.
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21
is on standard time.


I suppose the Republicans, or
perhaps the Democrats, would
come out in favor of either day.
light or standard time, but so far
they've been so busy worrying
about Ike, so they haven't got time
anything else. They will tho, b 4
the election is take place & l
m going 2 vote daylight saving,
no matter what party advocates it.
I'm a strong believer in daylight
saving. 1t has given me an extra
hour of sleep every night. U
go 2 bed by daylight saving time
& get up by standard time. new
er reset my alarm clock. 1t still
goes off 7:30 standard time like it
always has.
If the rest of L had sense
enough 2 take advantage of my
patent U 2 would get an extra
hours sleep every night. But it's
not 2 late yet. have given U the
tip. It's all yours, & it's all free.
Keep the change.
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21

The cost Of living index in Nor
way rose SO in the month that
ended March Is, from 1921 to
1903 points.
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21
ON BOOKS AND ARTICLES

Norway Boasts Worlds Largest
Cod Fisheries. Illustrated feature
story on centuries old cod fish
cries off Lofoten Islands. April
issue. Atlantic Fisherman Month
ly, Goffstown, New Hampshire.
Tourist in Scandinavia, by Chas.
]. Rolo. Tips on travel in Norway
and its neighboring countries. At
lantic Monthly Magazine. April,
1852.
Agricultural Policy in Norway.
by Gertrude Gronbech. Informative
report by American agricultural
economist. With pictures and map
showing main agricultural dis
tricts. Foreign Agriculture. March
1852. Issued by L. S. Department
of Agriculture.
Scandinavia i'm 1852 - Fodor's
Modern Guides. Edited by Eugene
Fodor The 100-page special sec
ton on The Face of Norway, is ex-
ceptionally Informative. Contains a
number of articles by authorities
on Norwegian life and travel.
1915. David Mckay Co.. Inc, New
York.
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21

Ever seen Lap III these pdit
Emil Richard Nivala, author
and lecturer turned out to be one
recently just for fun, as he toured
Puget Sound cities CARRIED in ira
ditional Lap costume. advertising
Everett's Scandinavian Festival :.
Nordiska Folkdancers at the Uni
versity of Washington appeared on
the festival program, which at
tracted throngs.
Speaking of the University, three
shells of the schools rowing crews
We're shipped to Finland for Olym-
pic Games from Seattle aboard
Johnson Lines Seattle" a s t
week The longest shell was
81 feet 4. Looks like the Hus-
kies are Olympic hopefuls after
all. despite their poor showings on
Lake Washington.
Within a few weeks Drums of
Diomede, a new book by. Arthur
Eide, recent Seattle visitor from
Alaska. will be published by
House-Warven in Hollywood, Cal.
The publishers say it is the first
authentic story told of the ESki-
mo-" and recount how Eide spent
50 years among Eskimos, helped
by the fact that he was married
to an Eskimo woman.
Mrs. Ingegerd Brown, form
erly Mrs. Rune Wallgren, of Sc
attic, last week made preparations
to send her 6-year-old boy, Hans,
aboard a Scandinavian Airlines
plane for flight to Stockholm,
where he will be met by her par
ents. Mrs. Brown and her husband
left for Alaska, but will visit
Sweden in about a year, when
they will return with Hans.
Bjorn Bjornhovde. former L. of
Washington student from Norway
who returned to his native country
after journalistic training, is re,
portedly anxious to return to US
again, shortly. 1t turns out thai
his American impressions, com
pared with limited opportunities Of
Norway. as he saw them, got the
best of him.
The Sweden House campaign
has now Melted a total of about
S12s,000 as Boosters are coastins
into a slack period with littl,
signs Of much perking up as sum
mer approaches. Buttons made tt
order to advertise The New
Swedish Center" in Seattle viii
be distributed soon and should be
come quite conspicuous this sum
mer at picnics. Even if there i!
a temporary slackening of Swedel
House efforts, they are appreciated
and well publicized elsewher,
among Swedish centers in tn
country. The Swedish Nordstjern
an paper in New York is one o
the latest patters-on-the-ba back
Next meeting of Sweden Hous
Booster Club is Wednesday, Ma,
Il, at 8 pm, at the Swedish Club
Seattle.
The old Norway Hall in Seattle
the scene of Morse doings for man,
years, was sold recently to tn
Painters Union, Local 800 for $50,
GOO
About 600 persons were at in
Svea Male Chorus concert in Sc
attic May 10 and the attendant
bore out the good supporting in
terest of the Swedish communit,
Thirty-one students were grad
uated from Swedish Hospitals d
vision of the University of Wash
ington's School of Nursing, Ma
IA, in Mission Covenant Church.
What's this about John Nordeel
SkrellbOom, the Swedish fun-mal
er, who is supposed to play a
instrument he never gets aroun
to playing? 1t seems he ju,
talks about playing it and VIII;
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21
A group of 6s refugee children

from Displaced Persons camps in
Germany and Austria came to
Oslo last week. They will spend
4 months as guests of Norwegian
foster parents.
Scandinavian American. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1945-1958, 1952-05-21
What's this about John Nordeen,

Don't thumb a ride and expect
to keep your money, or maybe
you thought a hitchhiker would
take yours if you let him in the
car? At any rate. there was a
new twist to this type of thing