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The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1951-05-23

with such select group fighting
for the individuals rights. and
the help made possible for the
underprivileged and the needy
through their efforts. the world
would eventually be a better
place in which to live.
Following Mr.. Rogers speech,
Miss Blanche Pace, International
Office, Kansas City spokesman,
complimentcd the Beta Omega
Chapter in Key West for the pro-
jeets undertaken by them and for
the enjoyable time given her
while she was visiting the Island
City. Mrs, Reese Vermilya, Toast
mistress, then thanked Mrs. Flor
ence Ardagh and other members
from Key West, for getting the
cooperation of the Commanding
Officers of the u. SssOdax and the
U. SIS. Corporal In sending the
officers and enlisted men to the
functions held by the group dur
ing the convention.
The second half of the beauty
contest was then staged in formal
gowns on the patio and men,
Der of the Winter Haven chapter
won the prize and waltz with
Screen Actor John Hall who was
one of the judges.
The Convention closed on Sun
day morning following a break.
fast and closing ritual.
Local sorority members attend.
ing the convention were: Mrs.
Angela Caro-, Mrs. Florence Ar
dagh, Miss Sylvia Baker, Miss
Florence Walker, Miss Jessie
Michael, Miss Audry Blom, Miss
Edna Hoff, Mrs. Dolce Curry,
Miss Virginia Whitmarsh and
Miss Elizabeth Acheson.
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Arthur Sawyer Post No. %
will meet at 8 pm. at Legion
Home on Stock Island.
Ladies Auxiliary VFW Post
No. 1911 will meet at 6 pm.
at the VFW Home.
Meeting, Overseas Camp 1906,
Royal Neighbors, 1880 pm,
home of Mrs. Vernon Lowe,
1910 Fla2ler Avenue.
Monroe County Audubon So
ciety public meeting, Audi
forum, Truman Elementary
School. 8 FIN.
FRIDAY, MAY Is
Meeting, Alcoholics Anonym-
Gus, 8 PM, First Presbyteri-
an Church Annex.
Bowling for all Navy Wives al
8 am. at Naval Station Al
leys.
Fern Chapter, No. 81, Order oil
Eastern Star, will meet at s
pm. at the Golden Eagle
Hall on Petronia Street.
Officers Wives Club luncheon
meeting will be held at Il
noon at Fort Taylor Officers
Club.
The Naval Station Officers
Wives will hold an Hawaiian
party at IL noon at For
Taylor Officers Club.
SATURDAY, MAY 90
Marathon Lions Club Meeting
Overseas Lodge, Marathon
evening banquet.
MONDAY, MAY %
Meeting, Anchor M on c
Lodge No. 1872, 8 pm, at new
Masonic Home. Eaton and
Simenton Streets.
Meeting. Beta Sigma Phi
Sorority, 8 pm, F.S.E.S. Of
flee on Simonton Street.
TUESDAY. MAY 30
The Rainbow Girls practice fol
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SUMNER

(COntinueG rom Page One)
Monroe County beach area will
be used for the plan.
The recreational program will
cover swimming, tennis, volley-
ball, basketball, badminton, shut
fleboard, paddle tennis, group,
games for the tiny tots, camping
tours and picrscS, Jones said. 4
Leland March announced that
more booklets We're available to
the parents OF 4cnool beginners.
The attractive red pamphlet Is
prepared for the benefit of par
ents who should know how to
prepare the first grader for his
entry into class for the first time.
It's scope includes health care.
diet, rest, development of muScu-
lar control by approved methods,
medical precautions, how to
achieve a happy attitude and how
to develop a feeling of security
in the child.
An outline of the school day
gives time schedules, what ma
terials are needed by the begin
ner and how much money is need
ed for lunch tickets.
The booklets may be obtained
in March's Office. second floor. in
the Monroe County Courthouse.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1951-05-23
Impressive Rites
For Senior Glass
BY DON WILLIAMS

An impressive inveStlture cere-
mony held last Thursday morning
marked the beginning of the Key
West High School senior gradual
ing class calendar of events.
The Seniors, their sponsors, the
principal, and the speaker march
ed in to the familiar "Pomp and
Circumstance" and the program
opened with the reading of the
l2lst Psalm, by Lee Huddle,
president of the Junior Class.
The Rev. George M. Ray then
spoke on "The Point of No Re-
turn" and the Keya West High
Seliool2chorus under. the direction
of Tom Whitley sang De 'Koven's
sRecessionar' and You'll Never
Walk Alone" by Rogers and Ham.
merStein.
y, Another highlight on the pro-
gram was the presentation of the
senior names by the sponsors,
Mrs. H. Sails and Mr. Walter
Lazier, to the principal. Mr.E o,
Schweitzer. Upon receipt of the
names, Mr.. Schweitzer read the
list of the candidates for gradua-
lion and each senior stood up as
his name was read. They were
then invested with the privileges
and responsibilities of seniors.
This was followed by the sec
ond annual presentation of the
conch flag and conoh symbols of
the school by George Cathey, pre-
sident of the Senior Class, to Lee
Huddle, president of the Junior
Glass.
The program ended with a
singing of Aud Lang Syne" and
when the Seniors marched out
the members of the Junior Glass
took their places.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1951-05-23
Asia Subject
Of Sn,athers' Talk
At COHUPlstiOn

Frank Smothers, former foreign
correspondent for the Chicago
Daily News, will speak at the
closing sessions today of the
three day Congress Of Parents
and Teachers Convention at the
Municipal Auditorium at Miami
Beach.
His talk wdl be built around
the subject Cross Currents In
Asia and will be preceded by
DR., Walter r. Judd'S speech on
The Citizen Child, His i'repat a
ton for Today's World" DIR.
George D, Stoddard, President Of
the University of Illinois is also
scheduled to talk.
Delegates from the forty-eight
states, Hawai- Germany and the
District of Columbia are attend
ing the various meetings of the
Convention.
New officers elected yesterday,
who will be installed at today's
session, are second vice president,
KNOX Walter, assistant superin-
-tendert of Fulton County,, Geor-
gias SCHOOLS. regional VICE presi-
dents with tetna of three years,
Mrs. S. Observation-Disclosures OF Old
Orchard Beach. Maine ;SGfMrs. Or
Nj dc G. Rankins yf tWaghngtoh,
D. G.; Mrs. VIII. 'Heyfrnan of Oak
Park. Illinois; and Mrs. Otto Els
cnstein of Warrenton, Missouri.
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4VV girls, representing every Sec
ton OF Florida registered for tho
various functions.
! The high1ight of the evenings
entertainment was a Fisherman's
. Supper. Each girl was presented
WIN a box containing a variety
OF good things to eat, as she en-
tered the patio where the supper
was served. Dancing in the West
India Room of the hotel follow
cd.
at the business meeting on
Saturday morning in the ball
room OF the hotel, gold cup was
presented to the City Council of
Daytona Beach for the best re-
ports of the year. This branch of
the sorority, representing several
chapters, has established a Cere-
bral Palsy Clinic from funds rails
cd by the group. The Tampa
Chapter was also awarded aSctp
for worthy projects.
After the consideration of sew
cral bids, the Orlando Chapter,
because of its central location was
chosen as the 1852 Convention
hostesses.
During the social forum in the
late morning, Mrs. Dolce Curry
and Miss Sylvia Baker were in
Vited to conduct the session and
Mrs. Curry spoke on the social
activities held during the past
year in Key West.
7 A Smorgasbord Luncheon and
beauty contest followed, and in
the evening there was a formal
banquet in the dining room of
the hotel. The Sorority Ritual
and recitation was given, as we'll
as an invocation by Chaplain E. E.
Tiedt. Mrs. Reese Vermilya of the
West Palm Beach Chapter acted
I as toastmistress and dinner music
was furnished throughout the
. meal.
. Paul Rogers. the son of Senator
Dwight Rogers, was the guest
speaker and after expressing his
pic asuge in speaking 10 a group
OF four hundred beautiful women.
commended the rapid growth of
the sorority. He said in the course
of its twenty years of existence it
had grown to a membership of
100000 with 5000 chapters spread
around the world.
He also praised the aims and
purposes of the group as a civic
organization and their good works
accomplished in making an art
of living. He also commended the
group for their charitable works,
for the solid friendships they had
accomplished, and the medical
attention made possible by them
for the needy.
MIR. Rogers concluded his re-
marks with the statement that
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1951-05-23
Millions DO Not
Intend Any Church
SAYS Harold Wells

Evangelist Harold p. Wells will
continue his series of talks at the
First Baptist Church tonight at 8
p. m. with a sermon entitled.
"Life's Embarrassing Moment"
Building his presentation
around the fact that 5000 churches
were closed last year because
they could not operate financially,
and sixty five million Americans
do not attend any Catholic,
Protestant or Jewish religious
service, DR.. Wells will point out
how Christians today can help TO
remedv this situation.
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MEMORIAL DAY Plans
ON LEGION AGEAD4

Memorial Day plans will be the
main item on the agenda of the
meeting of the Arthur Sawyer
Post No %, American Legion at
g p. m. tonight at the Legion
Home on Stock Island.
Post Commander Frank Roma
guerra will also announce the win
ners of the American Legion
School Awards presented annual
ly by the Post. Students of st.
Joseph'S School. Convent Of Mary
Immaculate, and the Key West
unior High School compete for
these medals.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1951-05-23
GUARD OF HONOR
NAMES 4DJUT.4lNT

Vance c. Stirrup was named
Adjutants of the Key West Guard
of Honor to succeed a. l.. Ulch-
er, at the Guards regular meeting
held Monday evening.
Francis Piodela was also nam
ed First Lieutenant to fill the va
cancy created when Frank Aritas
left Key. West with the local Ma
tional Guard units- $3.50
Al thelSame Ip&etfng it wsts an
nounced that the. Key West Gdard
of Honor Me.as@ represent lpli
Sawyer Pest "a, AtnsEiean
Legion. at the mSasfng Of hsrol-
ors ceremony stesbe 9gta a Pratt
Veterans HospitaE nEat GalgIes
at IL a. M, May -27tf@ The Veter-
ans Hospital. Coral Gables at II
a. M, May 9th. The ceremony is
sponsored by the WAC Veterans
Chapter Number Thirteen of Mi
ami. --
The Guard also voted to part
cipate in the Memorial Day exer-
cises sponsored by the Post on
May 80 at Bayview Park, and
adopted a new set of bylaws
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S0Cl;nIN0te,

Members of the American LIE.
gioi1 Auxiliary are reminded moi
to forget to bring their toilet
ARTICLES 10. the 8 pm. Thursday
meeting at the American Legion
Home. This will be their last
opportunity to include the ar
ticles in packages to be sent to
the three veterans hospitals SUP
piled by the Auxiliary.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1951-05-23
TRUMAN 1UDITORII1u
NOT KEY VEST mon
WILL SHOW FILMS

The Monroe County Audubon
Society will show its three COL
ored motion picture films to-
morrow night at 9 pm, in the
auditorium of the Truman Ele-
''Gtrt"rv S"honf and notssin the
KeSTWesf High School Auditor
ium as previously announced.
The titles of the films are
"Spearheads In The Sky" What
Bird Is That" and audubon Ma
,ture Camp in Greenwich, Con-
necticut."
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dan, Mr.. and Mrs. /. R. Rutt,
Comdr Charles Styer and Major
c. Barrett
The buffet supper was served
from a candlelit table decorated
with hibiscus, golden alamanda
blossoms and other tropical flow
ers. The party hours were $50 to
g D. m.
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officers, $3.50 pm, Scottish
Rite Temple.
AHAN 90

WEDNESDAY, MAY 80
Golf classes, Officers Wives
Club, 10 am, hard ball field
beyond Eochasis.
Meeting, La Concha Navy
Wives Club No. IS, 1890
am, Building l73, Naval
Station.
Bowling, Officers Wives, 1870
pm, Naval Station Bowling
Alley.
Meeting, Junior Chamber OF
Commerce, 8 pm. e b
House.
Meeting. Poinciana Soc l
Club. 1890 am, Polnclana
Community Building.
Meeting. Duplicate 8 ri g e
Club, 7;45 pm, Coral Room
Overseas Hotel.
Dessert Bridge Party, Alrship
Devron Officers Wives
Club, pm, Aeropalms,
Seaplane Base oftIc rs
Club.
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on wheels-a joy to drive and TO ride in.
But it's that reputation for dependable.
ity and long, trouble-free operation
which causes SO many people to make
Pontiac their choice.
Bear that in mind when you consider
your next new automobile. It's one of
the big reasons why so many people
are saying, Dollar for Dollar, You
Can't Beat Pontiac!" Come in today
get the, facts and figures that proyeit
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1951-05-23
Casa Roma M0feIs Vim Cash Prize
For Most Beautiful LandscaDine

Key West the national lmclgh again today when
Mrs j. j. Marks Casa Roma Roosevelt Boulevard
announced that she had the
fully handicapped motel grounds in the United States
Awarded by American Motel Magazine prize amounted
fifty dollars twenty dollars tulip bulbs Formal
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1951-05-23

The following persons applied
to wed in the offices of County
Judge Raymond R. Lord:
Victor Herbert Mills. %, of 1921
Packer street and Shirley Louise
Lones, %, of 1915 Packer street.
Manuel Fernandez, 81, of the
U. S. S. Howard S. Gilmore, and
Elizabeth Jane Stage, Is, of the
Tropical Hotel.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1951-05-23

Sweet potatoes are high in vi
tamin A content.
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Everyone knows that Pontiac is famous
for dependability, H you want personal
confirmation of that fact, talk to some
IF our Pontiac owners. Talk to owners
Of high-mileage cars owners who can
speak from experience. You'll be sur
prised how many will say, "The most
dependable car in America"
That, essentially, is why the 1851
Pontiac is in such tremendous demand.
To be sure, it is the most beautiful thin:
Evening star., 1951-10-06

what with records, radio. tele-
vision. movies, stage, night clubs
and even ice follies. You think
sometimes you will get to know
one Of them and settle down with
her, musically speaking of course,
and before you can take the first
step new girl has moved in.
Except for Evelyn Knight, what
with the wars and all. it has been
this way for 10 years. Or was this
way until last night.
Last night, we caught UP with
Patti Page at dinner and now
when, and if, anyone asks who
our favorite singer is, we can say
Patti Page. She did not sing dur
ing dinner, but she is such an
unaffected, straight forward girl
that you don't need to hear her
to MAKE her your favorite singer.
X X X x
Miss Page, who makes more
money than a vice president of
General Motors, is the kind of
girl who can take personal queS-
ton impersonally. This makes it
possible for one to ask a question
like:
What does it take most of all
to make girl singer successful"
"A good manager" says Miss
Evening star., 1951-10-06
Where and When
Current Theoter Attractions
And Time Of Showing

Stage.
Arena Julius Caesar; 2:3O
and $50 pm.
Screen.
Ambassador "A Streetcar
Named Desire: 12:45, ass, $40,
I7:25 and $40 pm.
Capitol - "A Millionaire for
ICristy"; 1890 am, ITO, 3:45,
Sis, 9 and 11:4O pm. Stage
show: 1920, $50, 5:25, sos and
1880 pm.
Columbia David and Bath
Isheba": 1880 am, lao, 3:55.
I6:05. 8:15 and 1890 pm.
Dupont - oliver Twist: / 20.
I3:25. $50, 7:35, $40 and 11:40
pm.
Keith's-"His Kind of Woman;
Il1:15 am. 1:20. 3:25. $50. 1885,
$40 and 11:45 pm.
Little-"La Ronde";; 1915. l:55,
3;ss. Sis, $50, $50 and 1910
pm.
Metropolitan - "a Streetcar
Named Desire; 1920 am. 12:40,
I2:55. $40. 7:20, GAS and II pm.
National Rich, Young and
Pretty; 11:15 am, 1:2O, $50,
5:35, 7:45 and 9:55 pm.
Palace - People Will Talk;
l0:45 am, 1885, $40. 5:25, TAO,
i9:55 pm, and 1905 am.
! Pix ANGELS With Dirty
Faces; 2:30. 5:55, 9:05 pm, 1915
am.
Playhouse-"No Highway in the
Sky: II am. l, $40. Sis, 7:25,
9:35 and HAS pm.
! Plaza-"The Mill on the Po";:
11:10 am. l. $50, 4:35, 6:25,
BIS. 1905 and HAS pm.
Trans-Lux One Woman's
Story; II am. 1880. 2:40, 4:3O
l6:25. sos. 9;45 and 11:40 pm.
! Warner - "A Streetcar Named
Desire; 1890 am, 12:40, 2:55
$40. 7:25. GAS and II pm.
Evening star., 1951-10-06

Last night after four shows and
% songs, and the beginning OF a
cold, she made a l am. disc jockey
show appearance.
y x \
Where do girl singers expect to
go, not when they die, but when
they get to the top?
Miss Page has been too busy to
think much about that. 1t has oc-
Cured to her, to be sure, but it is
the sort Of thing she leaves to
.Rael.
We'll" she says, Il don't want
to be famous, although it is Won
Iderful to be popular l really don't
know about the future. I guess
because I'm too busy. Things are
Just fine and getting better and
well. that's that"
Since all singers have favorite
singers, 1t is inevitable that Mis-
Page will be asked about hers.
Ella Fitzgerald" she says.
Among the men?
"Bing Crosby. He was my IA
vorite when l was a little girl ano
I've never thought about the
others in terms of which l prefer
There was one more question
before Miss Page had to go back
to the Capitol for her last show
Had she ever been in Tennessee
before she sang the State into
such prominence?
No. she had not, although there
were triumphant doings in Mem.
phis at the peak Of the songs
popularity and the Governor got
up at the great festival and pro-
claimed she had done more fol
/ Tennessee than any one since
Daniel Boone.
| If Senator Kefauver ever me
Patti. he would not mind thu
Governor saving this.
Evening star., 1951-10-06
Hollywood Diary
Director Powell Seeking
Wife for Stars Role
By SheiIoh Grohom.

is only one of Roy's 300-odd COM
mercial tieups.
Fred Astaire stars in "The Five
O'Clock Girl" early in so with
Howard Dietz and Vernon Duke
writing the words and music. Fred
is completing his 1851 program
with Belle of New York" at
Metro.
Larry Parks and wife Betty
Garrett. unemployed since Larry
admitted his Communist associa-
tions, tell friends that if his CO.
Starring picture with Elizabeth
Taylor, Love Is Better Than
Ever" goes over with the public
they will launch their own inde-
pendent picture for which they
Ialready have the financing.
" Hedy Lamar, always restless j:
tired of Mexico and wants to re-
sumo living in Beverly Hills
Whether husband Ted Stauffel
will sell his business interests ir
Acapulco to be with his bride re-
mains to be seen.
Nancy Kelly. disappointed in thu
failure of Twilight Walk" in New
York, reverts to Season in the
Sum- again co-starring with Vic
tor Jory, touring the borscht cir.
cult. then on the road. Charles
Proctor, the Twilight" psyche.
killer, has offers from MGM anc
Paramount.
| released by
| North American Newspaper Alliance)
Evening star., 1951-10-06
, HOLLYWOOD.


Dick Powell is making a deal
with Metro to borrow June Allyson
for "A Likely Story" which Dick
will direct at Paramount. with
William Holden starring. Dick
wrote the story with William Bow
ers. and June would be ideal for
the femme role.
Bob Hope has been insured by
NBC with Lloyds for 81 million
II guess my ticker must be OK, u
says Bob, doing "Son of Paleface. ~
I'm a trifle tired. but week at
Palm Springs and some golf will
Ak that"
Diana Douglas, Kinks ex, has
sold her Laurel canyon home, cut
her hair short. and is off to New
York and then to Bombay to star
in Monsoon" A movie based
on the play Laurence Oliver die
in London last year.
Judy Garland is $4,000 richer
by selling one Of her homes to a
wealthy shipping man from the
East. Sid Luft. her fiance, man.
aged the deal.
Roy Rogers received $4,000 ir
royalties as his first check for the
cookies bearing his name and this
Evening star., 1951-10-06

three times as much as when she
was at the Capitol Theater a mere
six months ago.
"I haven't thought about it."
Miss Page says with a bluntncsS
that startled the Capitol Theater
press agent who obviously mad
thought about it. Il leave all that
to Jack. I'm able to do what I
want now, to build a home for my
family back in Tulsa, to get my
self my first apartment in New
York and to decorate it through a
very fashionable decorator"
| The girl who made The Ten
neSSee Waltz" famous. and vice
versa, is not a Sentimentalist
However, try to sneak up on the
song she is sickest Of, and it won't
be the famous tune from Boss
Crumps State.
/ The songs I'm tiredest OFF,
she meditates. Mocking Bird
Hill and Mr.. and Mrs. Sippi.'
am not tired of Tennessee
Waltz" She is not crazy about
it still, but she just is not tired
of it.
! Her pals, the disc jockeys, un-
doubtedly do not need to be tolo
that Miss Page is loyal to them
one and all. With the general
public. it may be different. It's
members may not know that In
addition to doing 28 numbers ou
weekdays and 80 on Saturdays al
the Capitol. Patti never turns
down a disc jockey invitation.
/ There are two things she likes
about them, one, they are pleas
ant set of odd job humans and
they are great record statesmen
They did a lot for Miss Page wher
she was on the way up and now
that she is there. she is full OF
the same old affection for them
Evening star., 1951-10-06

Page, not to give an abrupt answer
so much as one she regards as
absolutely truthful. Someone to
keep you from making mistakes in
selecting your songs, making book
Iings, and how you dress. Also
someone who knows when you
make a mistake and can tell you
how not to make the same one
again
In Miss Pages case. this is 9
plump chap named Jack Rael ano
her estimate of managers might
lead you to think she agreed with
his every word and thought.
She doesn't.
what do you like best about
your songs at first sight. the
lyrics or the music?" is the queS-
ton that brings out this difference
between herself and Rael.
THE lyrics" she said. but not
Jack. He likes the music first"
/ x X
To go back to money. which /!
an awkward subject, but virtually
unavoidable in the presence o.
girls who make so much of it. he
dinner companion had another
question for Miss Page.
| How does it feel to be making
Evening star., 1951-10-06
The Passing Show
7 ne PuSSH7g SNOW F.
Patti Page Has An Easy Way
With Awkward Questions
By jay Cormody

This must easy relaxed world back when girl
singers decade Norah Bayes one decade Ruth Ene
another, Helen Morgan the next
keep track of the reigning favorie then.
Today it takes many girl singers to satisfy the demand
The Republican. [volume] (Oakland, Md.) 1877-current, 1951-08-30
AURORA-EGLON

Mr. and Mrs. Harold Loughrie, of
Morgantown, are the parents of
daughter. born recently i'm the Oak
land hospital. The mother is the
former Miss Janet Arnold. daughter
Of Mr. and Mrs Ernest Arnold,
formerly of near Eglon, while the
father, student, is the son of Mr..
and Mrs. Grant Loughrie, Of near
Aurora.
Virgil McWilliam, of near Brook
side. who was recent surgical pa
tient in a Philippi hospital is recover
ing at his home.
An explosion of bottled gas range
i'm the Aurora community building
last week while the ladies were serv-
ing a supper was the cause of quite
a bit of excitement No one was hurt.
4 barn belonging to Walter Haul
ser and located near Eglon was bad
" damaged Sunday by fire. Only by
the help Of neighbors and the Oak
land fire department was the build
ing and contents saved. Children
were playing under the building
with matches where the fire orgi-
mated. Robert Spaid. Of near Brook
side, who was helping remove the
hay from the building was pain
fully injured about the knee when