Evening star., 1951-11-10

Mr.. Woods retorted he wanted to
know the Association between
the alleged conspirators, and their
opportunity to conspire."
did you turn over some of the
documents to Mr.. Matthews to be
Iphotostated?"
| Mr.. Williams told his client not
to answer.
did you turn over any Of the
Pacific Institute papers to the
Hearst organization or the Wash
ington Times-Herald prior to de-
livering them to Senate investi-
gators?"
The witness was again instruct
ed not to answer.
The Times-Herald is one of the
defendants named in Mr.. Pear
sons suit.
did you ever at any time turn
Iover IPR papers to the Times
Herald" The witness was told
not to respond.
IF the witness would be allowed
to answer" Mr.. Woods protested,
l"I think the facts will show an
unlawful act"
4 Under questioning, Mr.. Surine
said he saw Columnist Westbrook
lPegler, another defendant. on one
Occasion in the New York apart
Iment Of Mr.. Matthews, but they
did not discuss Mr.. Pearson.
| On another occasion, he said, he
talked to Mr.. Pegler in his room
at the Hotel Statler here.
/ did he tell you he would do
Everything he could to fight Mr..
Pearson tooth and toenail?"
I Il don't recall any such discus
lsion." He added he presumed"
Ithey mentioned the Pearson
broadcast which implied he had
taken the Baltimore printer for
a ride.
did you bring Mr.. Pegler any
documents?"
"On one occasion, I did. He
asked me to get something for
him"
/ Did he ask for the Congress
lsional Records containing Senator
tMcCarthy's speech attacking Mr..
Pearson on December 15?"
i II don't think so.' ..
/ Surine Denies Research.
Mr.. Woods declared the Senator
had repeated some 40 derogatory
references which had been made
Iabout Mr.. Pearson by various per-
sons in recent years. He asked
Mr.. Surine if he had done the re-
search job, and received a mega
tive reply.
Mr.. Surine denied that he helped
prepare the Senator's speeches, or
that he knew who did. He said
it was his understanding the Sen
ator wrote his own speeches, al
though he may have taken some
material from his reports.
Asked if he had ever investi-
gated the background and activi-
ties of Mr.. Pearson, the witness
replied, ''I have not
Mr.. Surine, a resident of Silver
Spring, Md, said he was gradu-
lated from law school at George
washington University in 1910. a
year after he had gone to work
for the FBI as a clerk.
Named Special Agent in Al.
He was appointed a special
agent in 1941. and covered gen.
Ieral assignments in various field
offices, including those at Kansas
lCity, New York. Buffalo and Bal
ltimore. He left the FBI in Febru-
larry, 1850, and shortly was intro
Iduced to Senator Mccarthy by
Downey Rice, a former FBI agent
and investigator for the Senate
Crime Investigating Committee.
]; "Mr. Rice went with me to the
Senator's Office and introduced
u.s." the witness said. Senator
Mccarthy asked me how soon I
could go to work, and I told him
within "a hours" p.
The witness said he went to
work the next day on a per deim
basis, reporting to a basement
room in the Senate Office Build
| ing then being used by Mr.. Rice.
He added he did not know if Mr..
Rice was then working for the
Senator or was merely an
acquaintance of Joe's. helping
him out"
did the Senator inquire into
the circumstances of your separa-
ton from the FBI?" Mr.. Woods
asked.
mo. Not at that time"
Placed on Senator's Staff.
About 10 days after he took the
job, Mr.. Surine said, he was
placed on Senator McCarthy's staff
as an Investigator at a salary of
$500 or $1,000 a year, receiving
his pay through the Senate dis
bursing Office. Prior to that time
the Senator had paid him per-
sonally in cash, he said.
Mr.. Surine said he devoted most
| Of his time to helping Senator
McC Carthy obtain information
about alleged Communist infiltra-
ton in the State Department. He
began this work while the Tydings
committee in the Senate was in
quiring into the charges. and has
continued it up to the present,
he declared.
Mr.. Surine was asked if Senator
Met cCarthy received substantial
cash contributions to aid in his
tight against alleged Red activi-
ties in the Government. He re-
piled he had no knowledge on
this. !.