Evening star., 1951-05-05

cal confines. It is their effort to
enslaye the individual to the con-
cepts of the state. 1t is the estab-
lishment of autocracy that squeezes
out every one of the freedoms
which we value SO greatly.
Now, when you help one Com
munist nation against another
Communist nation, you, of course
accept certain definite risks. What
those risks are depends upon the
facts of the case. -.
Differences ON Concepts.
Senator Fulbright-... had not
myself thought of our enemy as
being communism; I thought of II
as primarily being Russia, an i'm
perialist Russia. /. -.
Gen. MacArthur-In that con-
cept, Senator, I disagree with. you
completely. 1t happens to bt
that the Soviet is communistic
but if you think that communism
is limited to Russia, I would dis
agree with you completely and alb.
Solutely.
Senator Fulbright- 4. It is only
because it is the tool of an aggres.
sive country that has bombs ane
guns that really bothers US, is II
not? Do you see, for example
any real difference between com.
and fascism?
Gen. MacArthur-T see great
differences, Senator. That is 9
great philosophical question that
would not care to try to discus.
here.
Kremlin Influence Discussed.
Senator Fulbright- Do you
think that there is no chance what.
ever that a country like Poland,-
we'll, we will take China-tha'
China can ever be disassociatee
from the Kremlin, the control of the
Kremlin?
Gen. MacArthur-I have never
said the Chinese were under the
control of the Kremlin.
Senator Fulbright-You don't be-
lieve they are?
Gen. MacArthur-I believe there
is an interlocking of interests be
tween the Communist China ano
the Kremlin. The degree of con-
troll and influence that the Kremlin
may have in China is quite profile
matical -.
Senator Fulbright-Well, woule
you consider that the authorities ir
China could make a peace with you
without the approval of the Krem-
lin?
Gen. MacArthur-A peace with
me?
Senator Fulbright-Well, with
the United Nations, or with the
United States.
Gen. MacArthur-I believe thai
there would be great possibilities ol
it. I don't know what the action OF
the impulse would be from the
Kremlin. :.
I believe that the plan that
have put forward offers the only
hope that I know of to stop that
insensate slaughter in Korea, tt
give Korea and its nation a chance
to survive.
Would Not Jeopardize Country.
Senator Pulbright-Well, general
with all due difference, I think oul
first and continuing responsibility
is to this country, rather than
Korea.
would not jeopardize this
Gen. MacArthur-I agree with
you in that, too, Senator: but
believe that they are parallel.
I believe the interests of this
country are involved in saving the
lives of its sons, rather than en-
barking upon an indefinite, inde-
cisive campaign which will sacrifice
thousands and thousands Of addi.
tional American lives.
1t is my belief that if you bring
the Korean war to a successful con.
you will put off the pos.
sibility and diminish the possibility
of a third world war. -.
AS I said when I appeared before
this committee, I am not volun.
tary witness, but those are my view.
and I repeat, there is no sophistry
of argument of philosophical trend!
that will alter those basic facts, anc
those basic facts are all that have
tried to offer to this committee or tt
the Congress.
No Offense Intended.
Senator Fulbright Il hope
haven't offended you. thought
you were a voluntary witness, thai
we were mutually trying to discover
what are some of the truths under.
lying the greatest problems thai
have ever confronted us I hopt
you do not think that because
asked you about something that i!
not in the immediate theater ol
Japan that I was trying to be Of
ficious about it. :. ..
Gen. MacArthur-T am very glac
to accept the invitation of the com.
but am not trying to forcs
anything, and the last impression
that I would want to give is tha
I pose as an expert on world af.
fairs.
Senator Fulbright-. There /.
one other idea, general, that
think many of us are confused
about, and that is the idea that
short of a complete vic.
tory in an all-out effort to end il
by force of arms in the Orien
would be called appeasement.
Definition of Appeasement.
Gen. MacArthur-Senator, I have
my own definition of appeasement
that might disagree with yours.
believe when you enter into war
you should use sufficient force tt
impose your will upon the enemy
The only purpose we have in the
Korean conflict is to make the en-.
emy stop his depredations.
Senator Fulbright-Well, under.
stood at one time that you were
willing to have a cease fire ir
Korea, that is short of an all-out
victory, weren't you?
Gen. MacArthur-I would be glac
to have a cease fire in Korea or
honorable terms at any time.
The enemy is the aggressor with