Toledo union journal. [volume] (Toledo, Ohio) 1942-current, 1950-05-19

to be quoted as saying the
operation of the Farms 1UaS
at a $4,000 deficit before
adjusting for assets. And
this is the Testimony" on
lDhich the Blade based its
report: ''The farms are run
ming In the red about $780,
900, minus assets, he said. !"
Q-When did you see tht def
icit figure of fifty thousand dol
lars the last time?
A-Oh, if Pm not mistaken it's
around - l don't know about
right on the nose, but i think it
was when the auditors were go
ing through the books and they
asked me about the funds and so
forth, just some general ques-
tiOn.
Q-When were the auditors
making this audit to which you
refer?
A--Let's see. One of them
started in November.
Q-That is November of 1949?
A-Thats right.
Q-And they are still working
on these accounts, is that cor
rect?
A-Yes. There's a guy still
there.
Q-Who are these auditors?
A-Well, they made slight
change. Let's see. There was a
guy named Johnson and l think
guy named Ahrens. He was
there about that time.
Q-Were they employees of
Local 12?.
A-Of the International I'm
ion.
Q-They are from the Inter-
national Union?
A-That's right.
Q-Do they come from De-
troit?
A-WelI, I don't know wheth-
er they all live in Detroit, or
not. l understood one of them
said he lived in FOst0ria, Pm not
sure of that, but somewhere here
in Ohio, 1 know.
Q-But they are in the en-
ploy of the International union?
A-That's right.
Q-And, are they in the en-
ploy of Mr.. Mazey's department
in the International union?
Al would assume he would
have jurisdiction. That's part,
auditing books, but they report
to guy named Casey?
Q-Is Mr.. Casey the chief or
head auditor?
A-He's the head auditor
from what they tell me.
Q-Does Mr.. Casey regular
ly audit the books of Local 12?
Ale hasn't been there for
long.
Q-IS he a new employee?
Al don't know about the
word new" but he hasn't been
ON that job too long. Whenever
Frankenstein left, that's the date.
MR.. STEINBERG: Object to
the last four questions and | ask
that the answers be stricken
for the reason the answers are
based on hearsay.
MR.. ELLIS: Your objection is
noted, Mr.. Steinberg.
MR.. STEINBERG: Thank you.
Q-Now Mr.. Gray, you testi-
fled most of the expenditures
for operating the farms are made
from the funds of Local IL. Is
that correct?
A-That would be right.
Q-You further testified, how
ever, that the farms are owned
by the Automotive w orkersI
Building Corporation, is that
correct?
A-They paid for them. They
should own them.
Q-That's right, and now does
Local II pay the Automotive
Workers Building Corporation
any rent for the Summer Camp?
A-They did, / think, at one
time. l don't know whether il
was five hundred dollars or fiji
teen hundred, but it was some
where around that, but that's all
they ever paid.
MOTE: And here zoe
haze til financial Secre-
tary testifying that he can't
remember tDhether rental
he toas charged aUith rec
ording lpas $500 or 81, 500
a Sizable distinction
Q-Would that be five hun
dred dollars or fifteen hundred
dollars for a season, or for a
year, or per month, or what?
A-Pm not too sure but 1
think it was five hundred a
month for three months. They
tried that for Just one season and
then they didn't afterwards.