Toledo union journal. [volume] (Toledo, Ohio) 1942-current, 1950-05-19

4 Q-As the chief financial of
ficer of Local IL which you
were and are, and also as secre-
tary of the Automotive Workers
Building Corporation you must
have some recol lie C t ion of
whether large amounts or small
amounts were spent on remodel
ing and rehabilitating and re-
equipping these farms, do you
not?
A-WeII, there was quite a
number of dollars spent. Like 1
say 1 don't knOw-even what
they list as assets i don't know.
Q-You couldn't say what
was spent in total?
A-All l know is the book fl
cure, and whether that's right
or wrong - by the time you
build up your assets, and some
of it is charged to wages and
some of il to travelling, / don't
know that.
Q-Could you tell us whether
a large number of transactions
went through the books?
j Q-You stated Mr. Gray, that
the books show the amount of
money spent and also the trans
actions?
A-That is for what part? i
don't have all of IL.
Q-That is for transactions
handled by you?
A-Thats right.
Q--Do you recall what the
totals as shown by the books,
were?
MIR. STEINBERG: May in
terpose an objection Mr.. Ellis?
MR.. Ellis: On what grounds?
MR.. STEINBERG Under the
best evidence rule, for the rea-
son the best evidence would be
the books.
MIR. ELLIS: / thought we dis
Icussed that the other day.
MR.. STEINBERG: This is
only for the record.
MIR. ELLIS. All right
MIR. GOERLICH: l will join
in the objection
MR.. ELLIS; You have con-
ltinuing objection, Lowell.
MR.. SMITH: You "a n n o {
bother with this deposition too
much. You are just here on suf-
ferance, you know.
MR.. GOERLICH: I am not
here under sufferance, l am a
part of this lawsuit and | repre-
sent certain defendants and /
will object TO any questions ask
ed that l feel are Objectionable.
| said that before and | intend
TO do it,
MIR. SMITH; Well, If you re-
iterate too much we won't like
It.
MIR. GOERLICH; don't care
whether you like ii or not
MR.. ELLIS: Your running OBJ
lection is on the record at the
beginning of this deposition.
Now please don't impede this
deposition.
MIR. GOERLICH. Your ques-
tion was not i'm connection with
the Automotive Workers Build
ing Corporation
MIR. Ellis: How do you ar
rive at that conclusion?
MIR. GOERLICH: You are
asking for these expenditures?
MIR. ELLIS. | am.
MIR. GOERLICH; Then direct
your questions to what expendi-
lures you are asking for.
MR.. ELLIS: l am asking about
expenditures made for and on
properties admittedly owned by
the Automotive Workers Build
ing Corporation.
MIR. SMITH: And further
more this is a Dill OF discovery
in the way of a deposition.
MIR. STElNBERG Why ar
que? Let's make our objections
and let it go at that.
MIR. ELLIS: Note your objec-
ton and that will be 1t. Now, a
will you read the last question, 4
please.
(Thereupon, the question at
line 6, page ~, "Q-You stated, /,
Mr.. Gray, that the books show
the amount of money spent and
also the transactions?" and the
answer, "A-That is for what
part? don't have all of it," and ;
the question, "Q-That is for |
transactions handled by your"
and the answer, "A - That's
right" was read by the Notary) 4
(The next question, "Q-Do you
recall what the totals as shown .
by the books, were?" was read
by the Notary)
A-What books are you re-
ferring to?
Q-The books of the Automo-
tive Workers Building Corpora
ton.
Al don't know off hand of
any from the Automotive Work
ers Building Corporation out