Toledo union journal. [volume] (Toledo, Ohio) 1942-current, 1950-05-19

tnat amount.
Q-Would you say within
your knowledge, Mr.. Gray, that
c o lon i a Hardware received
sixty thousand dollars.
A-That I wouldn't know
mean / would have to look at
the records.
Q-Would you say it received
forty-thousand dollars from Lo-
cal IL?
A-You mean all during the
period, or what?
Q-Yes.
MIR. STEINBERG: Do you
mean throughout the period of
1946, AT and '48?
BY Mr.. ELS:
Q-That is right.
A--Something like that.
MR.. STEINBERG: Not ''some-
thing like that"
MR.. ELLIS: l think the ques-
ton bears on the year 1947 to
right now.
A-That / wouldn't know, the
amount for 1947 unless, as / say,
until looked at the records.
Q-Would you say Colonial
Hardware received payments in
excess of one hundred thousand
dollars in total amount since the
Camp and the Farms were pur-
chased?
Al don't know that.
Q-In other words we are to
understand that you cannot
answer with any reasonable ac-
curacy as to the total amount
paid Colonial Hardware for the
Summer Camp and the Farms?
A-Well, the reason / can't
I'm just gonna be honest about
tive never made break
down of it because we didn't
have the proper amount of per-
sOnnel in the office.
Q-You do recall, however,
having signed checks to Col
onial Hardware?
Ayes, I've signed checks,
quite a number of them.
Q-And you further recall
having signed checks in amounts
of money in excess of two
thousand dollars?
AID say approximately two
thousand dollars, but / don't
know exactly just off hand.
Q-That is on individual
C h e ks approximating that
amount?
Q-Now, were these checks
drawn on the funds of Local IL
or on the funds of the Automo-
tive Workers Building Corpora
ton?
A-YOu mean-yOu're talking
about the Farms now?
Q-That's right, l am talk
ing about the checks payable to
Colonial Hardware.
A-There were some drawn
both ways. 1 don't know just
how that question applies to
that.
Q-Then, there were pay
ments made to Colonial Hard
ware from funds of the Auto
motive Workers Building Cor
poration, is that correct?
Ayes, but / don't think
they applied to the Farm,
though.
Odd they apply to the
Summer Camp?
A-No. To the best of my rec
objection it was for things
around the Local, and with the
exception of II think they
bought don't know get
mixed up because it's half and
half. The bus body belongs to
the Camp but the Corporation
owns that. Them things make it
hard for me to tell you exactly
until l could go back and con-
suit the figures.
l hope you can appreciate
that
Q-That's right
Al mean they belong in
two different groups.
Q-In other words you are
having trouble answering some
of these questions because of the
manner in which the records
are kept.
A-Well, yes, it's based on
the present set-up, and with the
difficulty / have had in the past
I'd say that's right.
Q-Now once again Mr.. Gray
do you recall of having signed
checks payable to Colonial
Hardware drawn on the funds
of the Automotive Workers
Building Corporation?
A-Did you say for the
Farms or the Camp?
MIR. ELLIS: Read the question
to him, Howard
(The question was read by
the Notary)
A-FrOm the Building Cor
pOratiOn to Colonial Hardware,
yes.
CT h EN- the Automotive
Workers Building Corporation
did make purchases from Col
onial Hardware?
A-That's right.
Q-Local IL also made pur-
chases from Colonial Hardware,
did it not?
A-That's right.
Q-And, these purchases were