Evening star., 1949-06-29
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A., l0fctno are excerpts. from yes
=, terday,s transcript tn the cross-
j., examination BY Asststant U. S.
ATTORNEY Thomas r. Murphy OF
Aloer Hiss, on trial on perjury
charges:
@. Mr.. witness. do you recall
- Mr.. -Stryker Defense Counse
Lloyd p. Stryker) asking Mr.
Chambers whether his brother hat
committed suicide?
A. I recall Mr.. Chambers testi.
flying that his brother had.
@. Have you had such expert
ences in your family?
Mr.. Stryker-I object TO 1t.
-, The court-Sustained.
: Mr.. Murphy-Your honor, sub.
nit I should be allowed to ask thil
man about some happenings in hi
- family when the Government wit.
- ness was cross-examined for som.
length on that. -
The court-Sustained. I hav.
: ruled. Mr.. Murphy.
Resson Held Not Material.
Mr.. Murphy-May I ask Mr.
!. Stryker to state his reason?
! The court-Purely immaterial u
! the issues. 1t does not affect thu
credibility Of this witness In thu
slightest.
Mr.. Murphy don't know
whether credibility Is the only
issue.
The court-We will proceed te
. the next point. Mr.. Murphy, please
@. Now, this society or associa.
ton that you belonged TO in New
York which you said was the In
ternational Juridical Association
that Is the correct name. isn't iti
A. That is the correct name.
@. Did the association have any
particular officers here?
A. Not to my recollection.
@. suggest to you that the
officers were In the ONCE OF Mrs
Carol King. Does that refresf
your recollection?
A. No. I think they were in
Mr.. Polier's office, who was the
leading member Of that grour
and I think the editor.
@. You couldn't recall just be-
fore that question where the Of
ficers were?
A. I don't believe 1t had any
officers in the sense Of full-time
officers. It had q mailing ad-
dress, I would feel quite sure.
Met Mrs. King.
@. DID you know Mrs. Carol
King at the time?
A. I think I met her once. per-
haps twice, during that period.
@. 30 I think your answer Is
that you knew her?
A. I said I think met her once
or twice. That is my answer.
@. My question Is, did you know
her?
A. I cannot answer that yes
Or no.
@. Now do you recall who 1t
was that interested you in joining
that association?
A. can.
@. You say you can?
A. said I can. --.-.s.
Q..Will you tell VS.?
A. Ifwiil, Mr.. Potter. who vas
In my class at the Harvard Law
School, was the chief editor OF
that little paper that was pub
lished. He interested me in 1t. y
@. And what articles did you
write, If you remember?
A. do not recall actually writ
tne anyssI hApesTo doubt / prob
XbiyNrotA or or two. sss@assss
@. But you can't tell us what
their subject-matter was?
A. No. The main function, Il
you wish to know that
@. No. You can tell Mr.. Stryker
II he asks. Was Nathan Witt one
Of the people in that association?
A. I am not sure whether he
was. II 50, that Is how I met him.
am not sure whether I met him
then or later In the Department
Of Agriculture.
@. So that we pass that point
by saying you don't remember
whether you met him there or not.
oya MT rapf1dant
Informed FBI Man.
@. You were interrogated about
this association before. were you
not?
A. voluntarily informed Mr..
Ladd (of FBD that I had written
for or been one Of the editors Of
that association.
@. That is the time you were In
terviewed by Mr.. Ladd and the
other agents?
A. The time I saw Mr.. Ladd at
my request, that is correct.
@. And you volunteered most OF
the information then, didn't you?
A. A few questions were asked
me. The particular one you just
. referred to I volunteered.
@. Well, would you be willing te
say that onlya very few question.
were asked by the agents and tina,
. you gave q running account your.
self?
A. It is my impression ant
. recollection Of the particular visi
. that very few and rather perfume.
: tory questions were asked.
+. @. And the balance Of the tim,
/. was consumed in your volunteering
!. q short history Of your life?
I. A. ! think I was asked wha
/. particular organiza tions I had be-
! longed to or something Of tina
: sort. I know that the Justicl
I. tJames r. Byrnes. then Secretar!
! of State) had suggested that
! review in my mind what organ
I. ization I had belonged to.
/. @. You had been questioned b.
!. FBI agents before that. had Vol
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