Evening star., 1949-02-24
Axis Sally Says She Begged
For Chance to Interview GIs
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F (COnClnueQ from FllSI rage
He knew I was not a propa-
gandist.'
/. The Government presented in
it's case against Miss Gillars teSti-
mony of a group of former GIs
: who were interviewed by her for
, the Nazis and they denounced her
from the witness stand as traitor
to her country.
Miss Gillars emphatically de-
MED the allegations made by the
former soldiers that she repre-
sented herself as an international
Red Cross worker when she came
to the camps to interview them.
Denies Red Cross Role.
When Mr.. Laughlin asked her if
she had ever represented herself
as a Red Cross worker, she re-
sponded:
mo. I never did. And I don't
believe any one who tells the truth
can attack my integrity"
u Mr.. Laughlin asked her if Koi-
schwitz had ever attempted to
force her to pose as a Red Cross
representative and she responded
mo, indeed. Prof. KoischWitZ had
too much respect for my integ-
rity."
Miss Gillars testified that the
material she used in her propa-
ganda broadcaStS was CLEANED
from American newspapers and
magazines which came to Berlin
via Portugal a few weeks after
their publication.
Used American Articles.
II always had the feeling that
anything I said was based on facts
American facts" she testi-
fed. Miss Gillars said she used
articles by such varied writer's as
Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt and Col.
Robert Mccormick, publisher of
the Chicago Tribune, in her prop
aganda.
At one point when Mr.. Laughlin
was Questioning her about her
propaganda broadcasts, she inter-
rupted to say: Il do not believe
the meaning of propaganda has
been established in this court
room"
Mr.. Laughlin then asked if her
broadcasts contained anti-British,
anti Roosevelt, anti-Jewish and
anti Communistic material and
she replied affirmatively.
! Mr.. Laughlin asked her if Kois-
chWitz was anti-BritiSh.
Yes, but not to the extent was
you see, he was not an Irish
man" Miss GillarS responded.
| At first, Miss Gillars said she
would prefer not to discuss hel
relationship with Koischwitz. But
when Mr.. LaVghlin insisted that
she tell the Jury whether she
loved him, she responded:
"Mr. Laughlin, it is very difficult
to discuss personal things on the
stand. Of course. I loved him"
Did he exert an influence or
your life?" asked Mr.. Laughlin.
) "Yes, he did exert an influence
I on my life. I considered DR.
/ Koischwitz to have beens my
destiny"
Laughlin Asks Explanation.
Mr.. Laughlin pressed for g
fuller explanation and Miss Gillars
continued:
II believe people are the result
of their association with other
human beings in life.
Without the presence Of Prof
Koischwitz in my life, would not
be here today fighting for my
life"
He asked the witness to tell the
five women and seven men on the
jury more details of her relation
ship with Koischwitz.
IF you have been happy, Mr.,
Laughlin," the fearful witness re-
sponded, You must be prepared
at any time to accept a lifetime
of misery. 1t must be worth
that much to you.
II come from a race of people
who have been prosecuted for 900
years. You can't beat that race
of people. You can't beat the
) Irish"
Mr.. Laughlin asked Miss Gillars
to return to details of her rela-
tionship with Koischwitz.
!; Prosecution Objects.
"The soil of Germany was pre-
: ci6us to him." she said. HE loved
: the mountains with the intensity
that a man might love a woman
The German landscape called him
back every year when he was
teaching at Hunter College.
HE wrote me many letters about
philosophy and about life and
: about the influence of the German
! landscape on his character. It
/. nodded his character and he con-
: sidered character analogous with
destiny"
Chief Prosecutor John M. Kelley
jr., rose and told Judge Edward
M. Curran: Your honor, I don't
: mind hearing about the German
landscape although don't know
, what it has to do with this case
but I object to Prof. Koischwitzs s
life history"
Judge UphOlds Defense.
Mr.. Laughlin then recalled that
: In his opening statement TO the