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was an entirely perfunctory ac-
ltion, and I think that that was
the occasion when DR.. Hornbeck
(of the State Department. told
me on my return to the once.
when I reported to him about
that interview. that some one had
said to him that I was pink or
red or something of that sort.
@. You can't remember what
he said?
A. He said either pink or red
or fellow traveller, or something
Of that sort. and I also reported
directly to Mr.. @. Rowland Shaw,
secretary in charge Of personnel.
O. Did you subsequently refuse
to come to the FBI ofiices to sign
that statement?
A. I did not.
Quotes Statement to Nixon.
@. All right. Now. you were
interviewed. were you not, down
In the House committee about
things that happened Just prior
to the taking of your position
as president with the Carnegie
endowment?
A. Yes. that question came UP.
@. And did you in answer to 4
question by Mr.. Nixon say: My
recollection on that point, Mr..
Nixon. Is that shortly after I had
been elected but before had as
sumed ONCE I had q conversation
with Mr.. John Foster Dulles in
which he said he had heard re-
ports that people had called me
q Communist. We discussed those
reports at that time. I can only
assume, that being at least q
month before I assumed ONCE,
more than q month, that Mr..
Dulles was satisfied there was
nothing to the report as I was
myself"
@. Do you remember answering
that to one Of the committe mem
bers?
A. was asked that question
and did so reply.
@. Do you remember Mr.. Dulles
talking to you about that job?
A. Yes.
| Q. And do you know whether
or not YOU told Mr.. Dulles that
yoI had ehecked<witA Mr.. Justace
Byrnes specifically as to whether
he thought the issue had been laid
to rest. and that the matter had
been entirely laid to rest? Do you
remember telling Mr.. Dulles that?
A. That Is fair summary Of
what said.
| %. Dogous usreinember telling Mr..
inu1l6x That '"at the tams when I
accepted the election as president.
I particularly checked with Mr..
Justice Byrnes as to whether Il
had my work in the department
in sufficient shape for me to
leave2" Do you remember telling
him that9
A. That Is correct. I checked
through Mr.. Dean Acheson.
@. Just a moment. please. now.
And did you also tell Mr.. Dulles
that you particularly reminded
the Justice at the time when these
charges had come up in March
and said to him that "if there Is
any embarrassment to the depart
ment about any Of this. Mr..
Byrnes, I will resign. I don't like
to resign under fire or in . fight,
and he agreed with me?"
A. That is correct.
@. AL right. Now. am I fair In
quoting from these conversations
with Mr.. Dulles that you said that
you checked specifically with Mr..
Justice Byrnes. that you particu-
larly reminded him that he agreed
with you? Did you use all Of those
phrases7
A. I did not say I checked per-
sonally.
Question Over Phrases.
@. Please, now. Did you use
those phrases that I have now just
reiterated?
A. I have no doubt that In tes-
tifying I described . conversa-
ton. Z
@. Please, now. I am talking
about that talk with Mr.. Dulles,
and only that.
Mr.. Stryker-I submit, your
honor, that calls not for q cate
gorical answer but for an oppor-
Itunity to answer 1t.
/ Mr.. Murphy-Your honor. !
submit that this calls for q most
categorical answer.
i The court-Ask your question.
IMr. Murphy.
@. All I in my Characterization
well. I will do it again. Referring
now to the conversation that you
have now just testified to about
that you had with Mr.. Dulles, did
you Use tkIS lOllOWAAe pAA 0oSo' -
,lferring to Mr.. Justice Byrnes: !
!, checked with him specifically; !
particularly checked with Mr.. JUS
Itice Byrnes; I particularly remind
led him he agreed with me-? Did
you or did you not use those
phrases when you talked with Mr..
Dulles?
1 Cant Recall Exact Words.
| A. I cannot possibly tell the
Iexact words Of the conversation.
Q. so. you have recollection?
| A. ! know the substance OF my
talk.
@. All right.
A. tContinuins3 and ! know
( the facts.
D @. You have no recollection now
; as to those particular words?
A. I cannot say positively that
D I used each
oil @. AL right.
& A. tcontinuins) --of those
/ words, or that I did not.