Evening star., 1949-12-06

pair of scissors. In fact, in the
suitcase from the State Depart
ment there was folder after folder
after folder where every single
one had been cut off. II had
found the word Secret" would
have grounded the plane. I never
did find it, but the place was
there where it had been cut OF at
the top and bottom. -
Mr.. Jordan continued his
description Of maps and folders
in the suitcases.)
MIR. Harrison-Did you report
that to anybody at the time?
Mr.. Jordan-Yes. I told Col.
Gardner and Col. O'Neal and sew
eral other officers what I had
done.
Mr.. Harrison-Did you report
to them what you had seen?
Tells Of 1914 Speech.
Mr.. Jordan remember max
ing q talk downtown at Great
Falls, Mont, to some people
who asked me to tell them about
the Russians. remember telling
them about the silly things I saw
in the suitcases about four-legged
animals and maps. and I thought
my apprehension about the suit
cases was unfounded.
Mr.. Harrison-About when did
you make that public speech?
Mr.. Jordan-Early in 1914.
Mr.. Harrison-Was it reported
in the local press?
Mr.. Jordan-Yes. I believe the
newspaper made an editorial Of it.
Mr.. Harrison-Do you have a
copy Of it?
Mr.. Jordan-Yes. It appeared
In the Great Falls Leader.
MIR. Harrison - This editorial
says how highly you regarded So
Wet Russia. It doesn't say you
found these things in suitcases.
Was any record made Of your hav-
ing made a statement at the time
as to these things you discovered
In the suitcases?
Mr.. Jordan-I mentioned the
four-legged animals as an exam
pie of the infantile things the
Russians thought were important.
and that we were risking lives to
get through. 1t seemed to be in
nocent material.
MIR. Harrison-There Is nothing
about that in this editorial.
Questioned About Uranium.
Mr.. Walter-I am directing
your attention to the shipment of
uranium. Did you make q note
Of that in your diary? -
Mr.. Jordan-No. I never made
any such note. I never made q
note Of any kind that had to do
with uranium or anything like
that. I only know I was called
on the telephone on innumerable
occasions and told to expedite
certain things, and at the time
those certain things went through
they looked to me like anything
else. It happens now I know
what heavy water is.
Mr.. Walter-You have no way
Of knowing when that shipment
of uranium went through?
Mr.. Jordan-We had a 1900
pound shipment that went
through from Canada. That is
the one Mr.. Hopkins mentioned
to me and said to expedite it and
not mention it to my superiors.
Mr.. Harrison-When was that?
Mr.. Jordan-In the spring of
1914.
Mr.. Harrison-You say Mr..
Harry Hopkins called you on the
telephone?
Mr.. Jordan-No, sir. I will say
it again. The Russians continual
ly called their own Embassy.
While they were talking to their
Embassy, they would on many oc-
casions hand the phone to me and
an American personality would
come on the phone and ask me
If I would allow the Russians to
pick a certain shipment and ex-
pediate that certain shipment.
There was nothing unusual
about it.
Mr.. Harrison-You say you
talked to Mr.. Hopkins on the
telephone about this particular
shipment?
Told Of Special Shipment.
Mr.. Jordan-The Russian told
me there was q special shipment
being handled in a very special
way, and not to mention it. and
I got on the phone. When I got
on the phone he said, "Mr. Hop
kins speaking" and asked II ]
had received the pilots I had
asked for. I said I had. He
said: There is q certain ship
lment Col. Kotikov will point out
to you, and keep this very quiet
/ Mr.. Harrison-Mr. Hopkins said
that?
i Mr.. Jordan-Yes.
| Mr.. Harrison-When was that
\ Mr.. Jordan-Two or three weeks
. before the shipment came
!. through.
Mr.. Harrison-What year?
i Mr.. Jordan-1944.
il Mr.. Harrison-Did you not,
that In your daryl