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The Chronicle-star combined with the Moss Point advertiser., 1948-09-10

We reprint below an editorial from The
Telegram, a Negro newspaper of more than
100000 circulation published at Newark, N.
J.. The editorial was written by Davis
Lee, Negro publisher of the newspaper, and
its conclusions and statements gain weight
by the fact that they are those of a Northern
Negro editor of a newspaper published in
q Northern state.
s The editorial follows:
II have Just returned from an extensive
tour of the South. In addition to meeting
and talking with our agents and distributors
who get our newspapers out to the more
than 5000 0 readers in the South, I met both
negroes and whites in the urban and rural
centers.
Because OF these personal observations,
studies and contacts, feel that | can speak
with some degree of authority. | am GER
tainly in a better position to voice an opin-
ion than the negro leader who occupies a
suite in downtown New York and bases his
opinions on the South from distorted stories
he reads in the negro press and in the Daily
Worker.
The racial ines in the south are so clear
ly QIdWu anu ueIlIleQ tIGIe call De no COn-
fusion. When I am in Virginia or South
Carolina I don't wonder if I will be served
if i walk into a white restaurant. know
the score. However. ! have walked into sew
sral right here in New Jersey where we have
a civil rights law and have been refused
service.
The whites in the South stay with their
nsyn and che na-woae IL ilxauseo Th,e ,-a
fact has been the economic salvation of the
negro in the South. Atlanta, Georgia, COM
pares favorably with Newark in size and
population. Negroes there own and control
millions oi dollars worth of business. All of
the negro business in New Jersey will not
amount to as much as our race has in one city
in Georgia. This is also true in South Caro-
lima and Virginia.
New Jersey today boasts of more civil
rights legislation than any other state in the
union, and state government itself practices
more discrimination than Virginia, South
Carolina or Georgia. New Jersey employs
one negro in the motor vehicle department.
All the states above mentioned employ plen-
ty.
N matter what a negro wants to do, he
can do it in the South In Spartanburg,
South Carolina, Ernest Collins, a young ne
gro, operates a large funeral home, a taxi
cab business, a filling station, a grocery store,
has several houses, runs a large farm and a
nightclub.
Young Collins couldn't do all that in
New Jersey or New York. The only bus line
operated by negroes are in the South. The
Safe Bus Company in W~inston-Salem, North
The Chronicle-star combined with the Moss Point advertiser., 1948-09-10
czEcHs LIKE U. S. FILM

PRAGUE - (AP) - Czechoslo-
vakian critics had nothing but
praise for the American movie
Best Years of Our Lives-the
Academy Award winner in l947.
The movie was shown during the
International Film Festival at
Marianske Lame (Marienbad). A
previous American film shown
there, Blossoms in the Dust
was roundly criticized.
The Chronicle-star combined with the Moss Point advertiser., 1948-09-10

Mr.. R. M. Freeman. director,
State Game and Fish Com.
Jackson, Mississippi.
Dear Mr.. Freeman:
On Monday, August Both,
1948, you and members of your
staff, sat in on a meeting at the
offices of the Masonite Cor
poration in Laurel, Mississippi,
which was investigating the
killing of fish by effluent from
hat plant all the way down
the Leaf river to McLain on
August 3, A and 5.
AS you know, this effluent is
discharged into Talahalla creek
and flows from there into the
Leaf river which empties into
the Pascagoula river. The efflu-
ent contains a heavy concen-
tration of wood sugars. These
wood sugars consume the oxy-
gen in the water. A heavy con-
centration of the effluent con-
tanning the wood sugars so de-
pletes the oxygen that fish are
in effect drowned. You also
know that this continuous pol
luton gradually weakens mar
rine life, when it is not strong
enough to slaughter outright,
and that it will eventually, in
a matter of Is to 20 years, de-
stroy all fish fauna in the Pas
cagoula river system and make
it a barren stream.
Now back to the meeting.
You heard every word that was
said. In answer to questions
you heard DR.. Robert B. Boehm
of the Masonite Corporation
say that there could be no such
thing as controlled" dumping
of the Masonite effluent and
that, although the Circumstance
rs resulting in the fish slaugh-
ter the early part of August
were unusual. they could be
repeated next week, next
month and the month after and
that each time it happened fish
would be slaughtered.
You also heard DR.. Boehm
say that the counter current
washers, which concentrate the
effluent of the plant and as a
result reduce its volume, were
installed so that the plant could
be efficiently operated under a
program that called for increas-
ing its capacity approximately
one-third. You heard him say
that, actually. these counter
current washers were not in
stalled as a conservation meas
ure, as we had been previously
led to believe, but that without
them the volume of discharge
from the plants operation
would be so great that it could
mot be efficiently pended.
You also heard the admission
that the washers did not effect
the harmful wood sugars in
the effluent, but simply con-
centrated them in a smaller
volume of liquid effluent.
e
You also heard several other
admissions along the same line,
all of which make me wonder
how you could issue from your
office the story that YOU did
on August 31st in which YOU
virtually apologized for filming
the Masonite Corporation $500
for breaking the states pollu-
ton laws.
In your statement YOU made
the assertion that the writer
of this. as a member of an in
veStigating committee, Joined
with others and emphasized
the fact that the company
(Masonite) is continuing its
work on the problem and max
ing every effort to comply with
have a sort Of chain reaction.
American Contract Bridge
League has acted to soften
penalties for certain mistakes
made in the game. The Shaving
of ones partner for humping
Kodiak mirror., 1948-09-11
Community Sing

Initiating the new song books recently donated 60 community center by Dr. A. Holmes John- son, 8 community sing pro- gram will be held at the center next Thursday night at s:3O pm.
 All who like to sing are cor dially invited.
Kodiak mirror., 1948-09-11

The Crippled Children's Divi- sion of the Alaska Dept of Health will hold an orthopedic clinic in Anchorage Monday and Tuesday to serve children from the 3rd division.
Kodiak mirror., 1948-09-11

The Coastal Monarch, Alaska Steamship Go freighter, finally arrived last night at 7 pm. Two other frelghters which sailed be- lore the strike began, are due soon.
Kodiak mirror., 1948-09-11
FRIDAY & SATURDAY
 IWunder WhO's Kissing Her Nav
 June Haver, Mark Stevens -
N o ' \ ( s

NOTIcE
 Due to unsettled labor conditions and inc present strike inc ovphevm is forced so discontinue ell double feature progroms and the special Sotvrdoy masinee Unfi' such lime as normaI shipping operations are resumed.
 We regret the necessity of this action and look forword to inc resumption of our regular program policy.
 The MANAGEMENT
Kodiak mirror., 1948-09-11
WED DNESDAY ..
 UnderCayeY Maisie Ann Sothern, Barry Nelson

THURSDAY Lady in the Lake
 Robert M ,ntgomery, Audrey Totter, Lloyd Nolan
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Funeral Rites Tomorrow
For Leo I. Waterman

Funeral services will be held to-
morrow in Roanoke, Va, for Lee
T. Waterman, SO, manager of Dis
trict No. 4, Peoples Drug Stores
Inc, who died in the Frederick
(Md) Memorial Hospital Thursday
after long illness.
Mr.. Waterman, who had lived in
Frederick since 1912, directed the
drug company's operations in Fred
erick and Hagerstown. Md; Mar
tinsburg, w. Va; Chambersburg
Pa. and Winchester, Harrisonburg
and Staunton, Va. He had been
with the firm 80. years.
Born in Winchester, KY, Mr.
Waterman came to Washington as
a child and lived here until 1884
At that time, he moved to Roanoke
and thence to Frederick, where he
was active in the Rotary and Elks
Clubs and civic affairs.
He is survived by his widow, Mrs
Mae Solon Waterman, a son, Leo F
Waterman, of Roanoke; a sister
Mrs. John M. Beane, Olney, Nd
and two grandchildren.
Requiem mass was offered for Mr.
Waterman at 10 am. yesterday in
st. Johns Catholic Church, Freder-
jck
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Mrs. Murphy Rites
To Be Held Tomorrow

Requiem mass will be offered at
$50 am. tomorrow for Mrs. Har-
riet Sophia Murphy. 9l, Washing
ton resident for more than go years
who died Friday while visiting q
daughter, Mrs. Harriet A. Quinn
46l4 Nottingham drive. Chevy
Chase, Md.
The services will be in Our Lady
Of Lourdes Catholic Church, Be-
thesda. Burial will be in Mount
Olivet Cemetery.
Mrs. Murphy, a native of New
York City, lived in Albany for a
number of years prior to coming
to Washington. Her husband, John
Murphy, who died so years ago
was in the tailoring business in
Albany and Washington.
According to her family, Mrs
Murphy was an accomplished pian-
ist until just before her death and
kept herself fully informed on cur
rent events
Besides Mrs. Quinn, Mrs. Murphy
Is survived by another daughter
Mrs. Mary A. Devling, with whom
she lived at 3112 Rodman street
NV. Seven grandchildren and
two great grandchildren also sur
ViVe
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Ogden A. Sfarbuck Dies;
Was Treasury Employe

Ogden A. Starbuck,. 90, retired
Treasury department employe, who
lived in Washington until three
years ago, died yesterday at the
home Of his daughter, Mrs. James
A. Gregory, Ashland, Va.
Mr.. Starbuck had served q num-
Der of years in the North Carolina
Legislature. He was born in Gull
ford County. N. c., and was edu-
Gated at New Garden Boarding
School, now Guilford College.
He was employed for 80 years
at the Treasury Department until
he retired in 1927. He lived with
another daughter, Miss Glen Star
buck, at 1855 Calvert street NV,
before he went to Ashland. Miss
Starbuck is employed by the Bureau
Of Enternal Revenue.
Besides Mrs. Gregory and Miss
Starbuck, he Is survived by another
daughter, Mrs. B. r. Atkins of
Washington; two sons, Dale star
buch, Raleigh, N. G., Bayard star
buck, Richmond, and several
grandchildren.
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Dratha
SMITH, VERGE

sManH ososel xaSslE 81 O. s4 suddss shRaE
Also surviving are iye sisters, six brothers.
9Ses 20 am sansy :n r. e9d .n After
Home % 1890 W 9Th st. It, NV. Nv i FSnersi on Mon,
Methodist Church; 14th and d ss; ne,
Interment Woodlawn Cemetery ~
STEWART CHARLES s,iss.1 RoGEs tHAk- Par
1BARSEYj STEWART oi 1921 F.ifmont
St sbsf ss0Usd w hs aqs0aHa Of Alice s1sE
ward stewart He also is survived BY one
co fSnef. Hee ssave:s ss s. Tn 9s HI Hines
msnt 1Asi arlinstOD t0De Nationai Cemetery. : q
SUMMERS, IRWIN. On Wednesday, Oc-
t9SsF 20 lS4s IRWIN Of is
James Summers, Ella Mae Green and
Francis Henry. Four grandchildren and a
mains resting at the Lowe & Allen Funeral
Home, 2426 Fye1st NV, Funeral serv--
tSs fs' MSnday s1a s.os. ossS0e5 chaes s 81 D:
tween North Capitol and lst sts. NV, the
Rev. Earl X. Tyler oficiating. Interment
at Payne's Cemetery.
vrR"y.' a.y taass osIss., FRANK a 1922 e Fri; j;
49, Georgetown University Hospital.
81 RALPH FRANK VERMILYA OF
lS ;s509 Idaho ave. NV beloved
I husband of Anna NJ (Gean Fan
N drey) Vermilya and brother in
law Of Mrs. r. w. Meyst. Serv-
ices at the 6. H. Hines Co Funeral Home,
1901 14th st. NV. Tuesday, October 20,
At 9:30 am. Interment Arlington Ma
tional Cemetery. rs
WILLIAMS. HELENE o. On Saturday.
1s,'Hss sfs e III
44O4 South 34th st. Arlington. Va. be-
loved wife of BENJAMIN H, Williams:
mother Of Mrs. Robert c. McMann and
Stanton NJ. Williams. daughter Of Mrs.
Bertha B. Ogsbury, sister of Stanton C.
Ogsbury Of Boise: Idaho. Services at the
s. H. Hines Co. Funeral Home, 2901 14th
ct. NV on Monday. October 95, at pm.
Interment private. "a
wRENs, THEoPHLus G. On FRIDAY,
october 80, 194S. at his home. 1855 Wis
consin ave. NV. THEOPHLuS @. WRENN.
beloved husband Of Enc Haney Wrenn
and father Of Winston H. Wrenn. Friends
may call at the Birch Funeral Home. 3o34
Monday, october, o5, at 2 pm. Relatives
and friends invited. .1nterment Oak Hill
Cemetery. 70
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Rutland D. Beard Dies;
WAS Known for Years
As Friend Of Chinese

Rutland Ducket Beard, "A, former
immigration Service official and
friend of the Chinese community
here, died yesterday at Suburban
Hospital in Bethesda.
At the time Of his retirement in
1888, Mr.. Beard was chief of de-
portations and visas with the I'M
migration. Service where he had
worked for 80 years. Before that he
was was with viii the Post once Depart
His home was at 4708 Chevy
Chase boulevard, Chevy Chase, Md.
Joined Law Firm.
During his career with the Immi-
grafton Service he became a spe-
cialist in working with the Chinese
and the problems they met in COM
ing to this country. After his re-
tirement. he was associated with a
law firm and continued his work
with the Chinese population here.
Friends recalled that at Christ
mas, his many Chinese acquain-
tances would call and leave gifts for
him.
Mr.. Beard was born in David
sonville. Md, but went to live with
his grandfather, the late Judge
Rignal Woodward, In Millersville
near Annapolis after the death Of
his parents. He came to live in
Washington with an aunt and began
working at the Post ONCE Depart
ment when only II years old.
Served On Fire Board.
A resident of Montgomery County
for Is years, he was an original
member of the Bethesda Fire Board,
representing the Chevy Chase Com
munity Association. He was a men,
ber of the First Church Of Christ,
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Frederick Stang, ~, Dies;
Retired Artist, Pianist
BY the Assoeiotsd Press

NEW HAVEN, Conn.,, Oct. 23.-
Mr.. Stang, a native of New York,
Frederick Stang, ~, retired COM
mercial artist, died today at the
home Of his daughter, Mrs. Allen
Hubbard.
was an ardent bowler and amateur
musician. A pianist, he had ap-
peared in concerts with Mrs. Hub
bard, who is a violinist and member
of the New Haven Symphony Or
chestra.
Other survivors are a son, DR..
John Stang Of Baltimore and a
brother, Henry Stang Of Kingston,
N. Y.
Private services will be held with
burial at Baltimore, family spokes-
man said.
Evening star., 1948-10-24


sion's first chief examiner, the first
chairman of the board Of reference
and the first solicitor of its bureau
of valuation.
He began as a confidential clerk
and rose successfully to assistant
attorney, attorney, solicitor and
chief examiner. As solicitor he was
in charge of the commissions law
division.
Chief Council in 1918.
In 1918 he became chief counsel
and for 10 years represented the
Commission in all of its appellate
court proceedings. During his last
three years as chief cousel he won
every case he argued in the Supreme
Court.
In 1928 Mr.. Farrell was appointed
a member of the Commission for
Six-year term by President Coolidge.
After his one-year term as chair
man of the Commission expired at
the close of 1888, he was made as
sistant chief counsel. He retired in
July, 1941, as assistant chief counsel.
Mr.. Farrell was born in Stanstead,
Quebec. Canada. He studied teleg-
raphy and became q billing clerk
for the Connecticut and Passumpsic
Rivers Railroad in Vermont. Later
he was Q train dispatcher, station
agent and passenger train con-
ductor between Stanstead and New
port.
In 1884 he began studying law in
Newport, Vt. He was admitted to
the Vermont bar in 1887. The same
year he was appointed a railway
postal clerk. Later, he was chief
clerk Of the Railway Mail Service at
Boston before he resigend in 1889 to
form a law partnership with the
late Charles A. Prouty, who later
became a member Of the ICC.
In 1891 he became treasurer Of
the Orleans Trust Co., . position
he held until he came to Wash
ington as confidential clerk to Com
missioner Prouty.
While in Vermont Mr.. Farrell
was active in Democratic politics.
He was q member of the Town
Committee Of Newport and from
1892 to 1902 he was q member Of
the Democratic State Committee
OF Vermont In 1894 he served as
chairman of the Democratic State
Convention, the following year he
was a delegate-at-large to the DEM
ocratic National Convention at
Chicago and a member of its Reso-
lutions Committee.
He is survived by three daughters,
Miss Agnes M. Farrell. Harvard Hall
Apartments: Miss Helen r. Farrell,
of the Clifton street address; Mrs
Otto Rupert, 61l8 Offutt road,
Chevy Chase, Md; . son, George
E. Farrell also of the Clifton street
address, an employe of the ICC
bureau Of accounts and cost And
ings; two grandchildren and two
great grandchildren. Mr.. Farreh's
wife, the late Mrs. Sarah M. Brady
Farrell died in 1913.
Evening star., 1948-10-24

Scientist, and served at one time
as treasurer and usher.
His wife, the former Irene Furr
Ingham. of England. and he were
prominent In embassy circles In
the 1905.
He Is survived by his widow, two
daughters, Miss Hazel Beard and
Mrs. Renne Beard Gunkel, both
of Philadelphia; a son, 1t. Rutland
D. Beard. jr., of Fort Knox: a
brother. William Beard, OF Washing
ton, and two sisters, Mrs. Mary
Kersey and Mrs Maria Beard Wor-
rail-, both Of Washington.
Funeral services will be at the
Baldwin Memorial Church in Mil
lersville. Md, at 2::30 pm. tomorrow.
Burial will be In the church grave
yard.
Evening star., 1948-10-24

was graduated from Western Mary
land College. He studied piano at
Peabody Conservatory, Baltimore,
here in Washington and New York.
He had given piano concerts here at
the Arts Club. at Western Maryland
and Miami Fla.
Mr.. Bopst worked for the Gov
ernment in Washington before he
joined the Special Services branch
of the Army. He later worked as
a secretary in a Washington law
firm before he went to Saudi Arabia.
He lived with a sister, Mrs. Mil
dred B. Smith, 10000 Colesville road,
Silver Spring, before he went to
Venezuela.
Besides Mrs. Smith, he is survived
by his father, John H. Bopst,
Kensington; a brother, John H.
Bopst, II, a consultant engineer in
Tokyo, and two other. sisters, Mrs.
Thomas r. Creahen, Kensington,
and Mrs. John S. Kyle, Caracas,
Venezuela.
Funeral arrangements will be an
nounced later.
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Former Gov. Bailey,
New Deal Supporter,
Dies in Arkansas
BY the kssoeiassd Press

LITTLE ROCK, Ark, Oct. 23-
Former Gov Carl E. Bailey died of
a heart attack at his apartment
here this afternoon. He was "a.
Mrs. Bailey said he had not ap-
peared in Ill health.
He and Sid McMath, Democratic
gubernatorial nominee, conferred
with Secretary of Interior Krug at
Hot Springs yesterday.
Defeated for Senate.
Mr.. Bailey was elected Governor
in 1885 and served two two-year
terms. In 1887, shortly after he
took office. he ran for the Senate
to fill the vacancy left by the death
OF Senator Joe T. Robinson. but was
defeated.
His gubernatorial administration
was highlighted by Inauguration of
civil service system for State
employees, refinancing of Arkansas
$50, 900 900 highway bond issue and
departmental reorganization.
Survivors include his widow and
three sons by a former marriage.
Mr.. Bailey was a strong supporter
Of President Roosevelt's New Deal
and supported President Truman
for the Democratic nomination. The
Missouri-born Mr.. Bailey visited Mr..
Truman at the White House last
spring and assured him Of Arkansas
sIlnnOrf deSnite the hitter oopoei
ton of Gov. Ben Laney.
In 1898, Mr.. Bailey won a COM
from Thomas E. Dewey,
then New York City's racket buster
prosecutor, when he helped extradite
Charles lucky Luciano, vice over
lord, from Hot Springs to New York.
Mr.. Bailey was then Attorney Cen
eral of Arkansas.
That incident helped him win
the Democratic gubernatorial nom
ination-and the off1ce-later that
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Mrs. Nettie Moore Rites
To Be Held in Silver Sprinc

Funeral services will be held in
the Humphrey Funeral Home, Silver
Spring. at 2 pm. tomorrow for
Mrs. Nettie A. Moore, 73, Washing
ton area resident for ~ years, who
died at Suburban Hospital Friday
after years illness. Burial will
be in George Washington Memorial
Cemetery.
For the past two years Mrs. Moore
had lived with a daughter, Mrs.
Adelaide Ferry, at 6402 Medwick
drive, Hampshire Knolls, Hyatts-
vile. Before that she lived in Ia
koma Park for Is years. She was
q native of Baltimore. Her hus-
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Uarn uf Utranks

HOPKINS, MARY JANE KATERINA
SaE TN faTg E hs ss MAk
their kindness during her illness, for kind
of S.an dnf S6Ia its srSstes
request renditions. remarks of ministers,
] ssa to tS9 Se pas64 he ReH
request text to be used on this occasion:
at the crossing Of the bar OF our beloved
ARTHUR J. HOPKINS AND FAMILY. .
JOHNSON, NATHANIEL. To the many
friends whose addresses were unknown.
We, the family of the late NATHANIEL
tion and thanks for your sympathy and
'0'S''' III 'u' ''e Vi The FAMILY.
MCCALL. NATHANIEL WALTER, sr.
4AASIE HAS Thf MA4ER famy yMeeAl g The sr late Mse
wishes to extend its thanks to the many
friends and neiGhbors for their dona; dss
thonshfS Of ssmpaths dur
ans ''' ' THE FAMILY.
SHRUM, SAMUEL S. This is to extend
eur sincere thanks to our many friends
kilograms and many other acts Of kind
i.te sAMuEL S. sHRgM. 70 know thai
10 bear our loss
MRS LAURA sHRuM AND FAMILY. "a
TATE, WALTER H. The family of the
late WALTER H. TATE wishes to express
Its sincere gratitude and appreciation for
the many contributions and kind serv-
ices during his long illness, for the deep,
est expressions of sympathy and floral
tributes at the passing Of its loved one.
THE FAMILY.
WARREN. ARTHUR. To the Mt. Jez-
reel Baptist Church and Its many friends
the family Of the late ARTHUR WARREN
sends its sincere thanks for their floral
tributes and messages Of coincidence dur
ing its bereavement. THE FAMILY.
Evening star., 1948-10-24

PaulS Catholic
c h u &c h, Fiji
teenth and v
S t re e is NV.
Burial will be
private.
Mr.. F Farrell,
who had been in
Ill health for
some time, died
Friday at his
home, 1436 Cliff
ton street NV.
During a 40
year career with
the Commission,
Mr.. Farrell was
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Truman Voices Regrets
At Ex-Gov. BoiIey's Deoth

PITTSBURGH, Oct. % R.-
President Truman expressed deep
regret" tonight on the death OF
former Gov. Carl E. Bailey of Ar
kansas.
The President said he was send
ing a telegram Of coincidence to the
Bailey family.
The former Governor had been a
frequent caller at the White House
since Mr.. Truman had been Presi-
dent
Evening star., 1948-10-24

there October 10
of a heart con-
dition, is sched-
uled to arrive in
this country to-
morrow.
Mr.. Bopst had
been in Venezu-
ella since April.
P r e v / o u sly he
had been in Sau-
di Arabia a year
as a secretary
with the Ameri-
can-Arabian Oil
Co.
He was born in
Po1tinore O =, n
Evening star., 1948-10-24

band, william James Moore, Q 10.
tired telegrapher, died In 1947.
Besides Mrs. Ferry, Mrs. Moore
lis survived by two other children.
Mrs. Catherine Davis, Brentwood,
Md, and William James Moore,
Deerf1eld, Va. Four brothers and
two sisters living in Baltimore and
eight grandchildren also survive.
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Body Of James Bopst
Due in j. ). Tomorrow

The body Of James Malcolm Bopst,
"a, assistant personnel director of
the J. G. White Engineering Corp.
in Las Piedras, Venezuela, who died
Evening star., 1948-10-24
Rites 10 Be Held Today
For Patrick J. Farrell,
Former ice Chairman

Requiem mass for Patrick j. Far
rell. 81, former chairman Of the
Interstate Commerce Commission,
will be held at noon today at st.
Evening star., 1948-10-24
An,trtltttn

SAHM. WILLIAM The unveiling of the
monument to the late WILLIAM SAHM
at IL am. at the Washington Hebrew
Conversation Cemetery,
Evening star., 1948-10-24
California Mostly Hills

California's land is three -fourths
hills and mountains that range
from 500 to $4,000 feet high.