The Daily Alaska empire., 1948-09-24
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more or less indefinite Flint said: "Only as long as some of the fel- lows argued about it.
 McCammon, Guy, Testify
 Following William Flint at the afternoon session of the hearing Thursday was Donald L. McCam- mon, member and frequently an officer of the ILWU since 1888. He explained longshore hiring hall methods of dispatching in rota- ton; said that 36 was high membership; that it was sometimes f as low as Is, but maintained a 1 list of approximately 26.
 Questioning McCammon, Paul brought out that the Juneau Lum- Der Mills, when Local l6 did not have men available were allowed to use their own men.
 Joe Guy, who had testified the previous day as to his pleasure trip to Prince Rupert, was called as witness by Paul, testified when queried as to practice at the Ju- neau Lumber Mills in employment of longshoremen, said We used to go into Mir Rutherford's shed. used the carts, but not the horse r.. ,
 About the meeting in the office of Mir. Hawkins, manager of the Juneau Spruce, on April ', Guy lgave a detailed account of who were present: MT Hawkins, MT Stamm, MT Gustafson, MT. Peter son, MT. Gertz and myself" said that the IVA told MT Hawkins that loading was not in their juris- diction, that they wanted to open the mill. The ILWU claimed juris- diction and the IVA backed them } up.
 About then Rogers asked Guy Aren't you the man who remem- fnered nothing about your trip te Prince Rupert three weeks ago who was there. what was said? Yet you recall in detail everything about a meeting last April?" i Under Influence of Whiskey
 To which Guy replied: If you iwere under the influence of whis- key you wouldn't remember eith- Ter. And I've been reading the newspaper account of the April meeting ever since"
 Asked if it were Juneau Spruce $ refusal to sign waterfront con- tract that lead to the establish ment of the picket line, Guy ans- 'wered yes" Mir. Rogers asked And it is still cause of picket line" another yes from MT. Guy. MT Banfield queried, Gan a man become member of the ILWU by applying for membership and pay ing dues?" Guy answered, NO. If we did that we'd have SO many members there wouldn't be any work for anyone"
 To MT. Hartung's inquiry as to why the ILWU waited from May II, 1947 to March 1948 to present an agreement to Juneau Spruce. MT. Guy wouldn't know
 Luyckfasseel On Stand i Called to the stand by MT. Paul, Frank Luyckfasseel, longshore- man since 1914, repeated the his- tory of hiring hall practice and brought forth his personal record of his labor His employment with the Juneau Spruce, his records in- dicated, as did his withholding tax icertificates that he had been paid $590l by the Juneau Spruce in 1947 All for work for customers of the Juneau Spruce on their own boats, it was maintained by the Us attorneys. The witness claimed that one of the items, hours of work on August g, l947, was $5.42 (Sat- urday, overtime) for loading on the 1 Santrina, the Juneau Spruce boat.
 MT. Banfield said he would call MT. Hawkins to the stand Friday morning to clarify this testimony
 Last witness of Paul was Antone Puger who reiterated the previous testimony regarding hiring hall practices.
 In the forenoon session, Gordon Peterson, financial secretary of IVA local, asked if his group had bargained for longshore work, replied that as far as he knew, i've did not
 He said his union voted to re- Ispect the longshore picket line in April, but would not swear to the reason" when asked if it were not because the longshoremen had jurisdiction over loading of lum- Der.
 Picket Line Reprisals l Asked what alternative, as a union man, one had to not crossing a. picket line, Peterson said: Tt is not very good policy for union man to go through a picket line and therefore they IWA) were