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The Daily Alaska empire., 1947-07-31
HERE FROM EAST

G. E koenis Jr. of Eden, New York, is guest at the Baranof Hotel.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1947-07-31
FROM BETHEL

Mrs. Carrie Tate and Mrs. Elm ma Tate of Bethel are registered at the Baranof Hotel
The Daily Alaska empire., 1947-07-31
PETERsBuRG MAN HERE

Carl TFynes Of Petersburg stopping at the Baranof Hotel.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1947-07-31
oREGoNiANs AT BARANoF

Mrs. Mary Hedges and Mrs C. NJ SwenSon of Portland, Oregon, are guests at the Baranof Hotel
The Daily Alaska empire., 1947-07-31
FROM BRITISH COLUMBIA

J. A. Lindsay and H. A. Doerr of Vancouver. B. c. are at the Bar anof Hotel.
Evening star., 1947-12-02
HCvofesC Confidence
In FbI , But Durr
Protests Decision

The Federal Communications Com
mission has expressed its conf
dence" In the FBI and asked to
continue receiving 'informa ton"
about persons in the field of radio,
but Commissioner Clifford j. Durr
has filed dissent.
This became known last night as
the FEC released letter to j. Ed
gar Hoover, FBI director.
The controversy began last month
when Commissioner Durr, in Chi
cago speech, referred to hidden
activities" of the FBI and "our mil
itary organizations" He said the
FBI had furnished the FEC "un-
solicited reports on individuals con-
nected with radio and I can assure
you that If you should be told the
kind OF thing contained in many of
these reports you would dismiss the
information as baseless gossip"
Hoover Warning Reported.
Mr.. Hoover objected to the speech
and said the FBI would be subject
to criticism" If ut placed the infor-
nation in its files without calling
1t to the attention of the interested
parties" He reportedly asked the
FEC either to repudiate Mr.. Durr's
remarks or expect to receive no
more reports.
Over the signature Of Acting Chair
man Paul A. Walker. the FEC yes
terday pointed out that Mr.. Durr
made the statement without dis
cussing it in advance with the other
commission members. He did not
purport" to be speaking for the FEC,
the letter said.
Mr.. Durr, however, refused to
agree to the letter and inserted into
the FCC's oficial minutes a five
page statement of his position.
Durr Hits Gossip"
In this statement he said that the
commission should welcome rele-
want information helpful in the dis
charge Of its duties but that the
FEC decisions must be based on
substantiated relevant facts and not
upon gossip or rumor or non-expert
personal opinions on political, eco
noniic or social philosopher"
Mr.. DUR then paraphrased nu-
merous FBI reports sent the FEC,
referring to one case in which, he
said, "the published programs of
meetings at which broadcasters,
radio commentators and others
were present had been forwarded
by the FBI "confidentially and byI
special messenger" to the FEC.
Mr.. Durr also said "it is Of little
help to the commission to be in
formed that an applicant was, in
1914, at the height of the war, re-
ported by an unidentified source as
being in contact with another un-
identified individual who was sus-
pected of possible pro Russian
activity or that the applicant was
reported by an unidentified in
formant to have been a visitor in
the residence of another individual
who was reported by another un-
identified source to have been iden-
titled by still another unidentified
source with communistic activities.
All the reports Mr.. Durr referred
to, he said. failed "to contain any
suggestion that the individuals
therein described have violated any
Federal laws nor is there any indi-
cation that the information sub +
mitted was the by-product of an
investigation of illegal activities
Evening star., 1947-12-02

Ryerson were married In Ohio In
1885 and that they have no children.
The complaint asks for an absolute
divorce on grounds Of misconduct
or a limited divorce on grounds Of
cruelty.
Mrs. Ryerson charged in the COM
plant that Mr.. Ryerson left home
without her knowing his where
abouts and that he has been away
continuously from September 30,
except for one day in october when
he attended a supper for mutual
friends of his and the plaintiff.
The suit asks for alimony and
said Mr.. Ryerson's income, for a
five-year period, totaled 100000.
Mrs. Ryerson is represented by At
torney John H. Dorsey.
Evening star., 1947-12-02
THE EVENING STAR, Washington, D. c. s"A-l3
TUESDAY. pEcEMBER :

become a candidate for Governor
that am writing you and a number
Of my good friends in order that
they may feel no embarrassment in
making such other commitments in
the governorship race as they may
think possible:
Evening star., 1947-12-02
Dupont Circle Group Asks
Reappoinfmenf OF Mason

Re-appointment of Guy Mason as
Commissioner was urged unani-
mously by the Dupont Circle Citi-
zens' Association at Its meeting yes
terday afternoon in the Mayf1ower
Hotel.
John H. Mitten, traffic engineer
Of the Department of Vehicles and
Traffic, told members Of the de-
partment's survey now underway to
help solve traffic engineering prob
lens.
Mr.. Mitten warned the group De-
cemoer Is the worst month of the
yeaf for traffic accidents. He
Evening star., 1947-12-02

II appreciate more than I can tell
you your interest In my prospective
candidacy. I shall also remember
your friendliness and thoughtful
ness"
Evening star., 1947-12-02

a candidate for Governor" Of North
Carolina.
Secretary Royal said In a mem.
orandum to the press that he. had
written last week to friends who
have urged his candidacy:
ut now seems so apparent that
I cannot with good conscience retire
from my present position in time to
Evening star., 1947-12-02
Mrs. Virginia ". Ryerson
Asks Divorce, AIimony

Mrs. Virginia w. Ryerson of the
1890 block of Connecticut avenue
NV. yesterday brought suit in Dis
trict Court asking for divorce from
Herbert E. Ryerson, former Wash
ington representative for a large
rubber concern, according to coun-
sell
The petition says Mr.. and Mrs.
Evening star., 1947-12-02

pointed out the weather is bad, days
are shorter and shopping centers are
crowded.
The meeting was conducted by
e. Goring Bliss, president.
Evening star., 1947-12-02
Cant Run for Governor,
Royal Tells Friends
BY the Associated Press

Secretary Of the Army Royal said
yesterday he cannot retire from my
present position in time to become
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25
JACKSON ADVOCATE, JACKSON. MISSISSIPPI

An example Of the control,
which this country has over the
financial and economic life of the
small Latin American republic, is
shown by the structural organize
ton of the Societe Haitiano-Am-
ericane de Development Acri-
cole, A Haitian government cor
poration similar to the Recon-
struction Finance Corporation in
this country.
The State Department said last
Friday that SHADA is a corpora
ton set up by the Haitian gov
eminent in 1941 with a credit Of
$5,000,000 borrowed from the Elk
port Import Bank of America. The
Department emphasized that SHA
DA is business corporation set up
to develop the Haitian economy but
pointed out that in the event the
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25

be approved by the Import-Export
Bank in his country.
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25
Brookhaven News

The Engstorm Addition Home
Demonstration Club held its first
meeting for 1947 in the home of
Mrs. Alberta WILDER. The newly
elected president, Mrs. Alberta
Westbrook and the women worked
out their program of work for
the year. The Home Demonstra-
ton Agent gave some very fine
suggestions on program planning
A demonstration on Lamp Shade
making was given by Mrs. Will
Der. Mrs. Clara Robertson was
presented gifts by the club mem
bers for her birthday.
After the business hour Mrs.
WILDER presented a game with
1st prize going to Mrs. Ruth
Lomax and the boobie prize to
Mrs. Clara Robertson.
A delicious salad course was
enjoyed by all.
Next meeting to be held in the
home of Mrs. Ella Mae Barns.
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25

ed by Mrs. Pearl Mcdonald, Sup
erintendent of the S. S.
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25

Mr.. and Mrs. Richard Hassell
of Memphis is visiting his parents
Mr.. and Mrs. NJ. S. Hassell.
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25

corporation failed, the loan was *
be made good by the Haitian gov
eminent.
The board of directors Of SHA
DA consists of three Haitians and
three Americans. A provision Of
the agreement setting up SHADA
requires that an American be gen.
eral manager of the $5,000,000 cor
poration and that all Haitians nom
mated as members of the board by
the Haitian government must first
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25

ing held as the material witness
in the case. Born in Marianan,
Arkansas, Mr.. Cobbs is the son of
the late Mr.. and Mrs. John III.
Cobbs. He is a veteran of World
War | and is survived by two Sis
tiers, one brother, two daughters,
and three grandchildren.
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25
Haitian Finance
Controlled by U. S.
By JAMES L. HICKS
NNPA Staff Writer

Washington, d. C.-The entire
public debt of Haiti, totaling $14,-
100000, almost twice the Haitian
annual budget of $8,000,000, is
held in the United States, an ex-
animation of the financial rela-
tons between the two countrys
disclosed last Friday.
An economic mission from Haiti
is now in the United States for
the purpose of consolidating var
ious Haitian loans and the public
debt"
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25

Mr.. Cobbs, formerly OF Little
Rock, was killed as he repeatedly
ran into the side of Trailway
Bus at Oath and Broadway, shortly
after six o'clock on the morning
of January 10th, constituting Gary's
first traffic fatality.
The river of the Trailway But,
Clifford E. Collins, aged As, is be-
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25
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Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25
Former Resident
Of Little Rock
Killed At Cary

Funeral Services for Mr.. Willie
J. Cobbs, aged So, Of Gary, Indiana.
were held at Dubisson Chapel, Mon
day, January 20, at ten o'clock a.
m. with Reverend ]. F. Upton, Of
ficiating.
Jackson advocate. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1939-current, 1947-01-25

The First Quarterly Conference
of Bates Chapel C. M. E. Church
convened January 18th and 10Th
with Rev. j. w. Abram the new
presiding elder present. The con-
ference was a successful one.
Mr.. and Mrs. S. L. Cole left
Friday for Lake Providence, La,
after spending a few days at
home.
Mr.. Albert Washington is con-
fined to bed at Veterans Hospital
in Memphis, Tennessee. His many
friends wish him a speedy recov-
cry.
Mr.. Dave Knight, Mr.. D. w.
Benton and Mr.. Charles Milton
returned home last week from
their job at kennett, Missouri.
Mr.. and Mrs. Richard Hassell
of Memphis is visiting his parents
Mr.. and Mrs. M. S. Hassell.
The city's popularity contest
will close February End at $3.50
pm. at Edwards Chapel A. M. E..
Church. The contest is sponsor
The public is cordially invited.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
Airluays Communication
Equipment Being Setup
At Bluethenthal Port

CAA electricians are ready to
install Airways Communication
station equipment at Bluethen-
thai airport, Henry E. Boyd, Jr.,
manager of the airport. has an
nounced.
The job is scheduled to be
completed by the first of
December, according to Carl
Schanche, CAA navigation ex-
pert. Facilities for attaining ac-
curate weather data will be in
stalled along with navigation
aids, he advised.
E. G.. Barringer, assistant to
the chief of operations of Ma
tional Airlines, is at the airport
to confer on the design for the
NAL offices in the new ad-
ministration building on the west
side of the field. He slated to
confer with oiinis- kimeDhrd d h
confer with the county COM
issioners on the new contract
for NAL use of the airport facili-
ties, Boyd said.
Completion of the communica-
ton station at the airport is
looked upon by Boyd as a boost
for the traffic at the airport. He
is also optimistic about the pro-
spects for an early CAA decision
on the East-West route out of
Bluethenthal, a subject of con-
troversey by State Airlines of
Charlotte, and Piedmont Avia-
ton of Winston-Salem.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
FINAL CONTEST
Continued From Sports Pare

season, the Durham team was the
second highest scoring machine
in the east, getting 166 points in
10 games, winning five, losing
two and tieing three.
Wilmington's Wildcats slipped
from a third place tie with Raj
eigh in '46 into the fifth slot on
this years calendar. Last year in
conference doings, the Wildcats
won three, lost two and led one.
This seasons loop record shows
two wins, three defeats, and one
deadlock.
New Hanover has Jared much
better against of-the-1eague
playmates adding 72 points to
their league total of AZ for a sea-
son sum of 119 with the Peters,
burg game still on the program.
While 81 points have been rack
ed up against the Wildcats by
loop competition, only the seven
points scored by Charleston are
charged to non-conference teams.
Goldsboro's Earthquakes look
ed like a darkhorse at the sea-
sons start with the win over
Wilson, but Coach Jeffery's lads
soon fell by the wayside although
playing some good ball. The
Quakes finished on the bottom
last year, but moved up 4 notch
this season. Other than the VIC
tory over Wilson, Goldsboro's
best showing was against Ra-
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
MRS, POLLY ANN LAMB

LUMBERTON, Nov. 19-Mrs.
Polly Ann Lamb, n, wife of
Wade H. Lamb, died at her home
in Howellsville township, Lum-
berton, Route 5, Tuesday at
8:45 p. m. after a long illness.
She had been confined to bed for
several years.
Funeral services will be con-
Quoted from Long Branch Baptist
church, of which she was a men,
ber, Thursday at 2:30 p. m. by
her pastor the Rev. I. P. Hedg
peth assisted by the Rev. A. P.
Stephens and George H. Wal
lace, interment will be in New
Hollywood cemetery.
Mrs. Lamb was a life long
resident of Robson county where
she was born on February l,
1870, daughter of the late r, c.
and Helen Lamb.
Surviving are two sons, Luther
and F. M. Lamb of Lumberton,
w. Lamb of Lake Waccamaw,
five daughters, Mrs. D. E. Davis
of Parkersburg, Mrs. R. A. Dun
can of Dunn, Mrs. J. F. Thorn
dyke and Mrs. H. B. Martin of
Lumberton, Route 2; Mrs. c. T.
Pate of Bennettsville, S. c., one
sister, Mrs. w. F. Davis of Lum-
berton, Route 8.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
DAVIDSON REJECTS
'FEELER' FOR TILT
in TANGERINE BOWL

DAVIDSON, Nov. 10 - P) -
Davidson college today rejected
a ''feeler" to play in the second
annual Elks Club Tangerine
Bowl New Years Day at Orlando,
Fla.
1T is Davidson's policy not to
play any post-season games," ex-
planned head football coach Bill
Story, and he added:
II guess that puts us in class
with Notre Dame"
The Catawba College Indians,
who whipped Maryville College
of Tennessee in last January's
Tangerine Bowl battle, will prob
ably be invited to play at Orlando
again next January, according to
a report from Orlando.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
JACKSONVILLE WINS
OVER GREENVILLE B
SQUAD ON WET FIELD

JACKSONVILLE, Nov. 10 -
The Jacksonville Cardinals today
defeated Greenville's B team 1910
as the two teams played in
steady downpour on soggy
field.
Because of the inclement
weather eight minute quarters
were used.
Jacksonville's line was the de-
Gliding factor. Although the out
standing player in the game was
Jacksonville's left halfback Jim
Bullock, Bullock set up the first
score three minutes into the first
period when he cut off tackle,
followed perfect blocking and
went 35 yards. To Greenville's
Is, three running plays later
Charles Marshall cracked over
from the one.
The second score came midway
OF the second quarter when Bull
lock blocked a Greenville punt
on their %, picked it up and
scampered for the score
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
ALABAMA STUDIES
DIXIE BOWL Bid

BIRMINGHAM, Ala, Nov. 10
~, Promoters Of the new
Dixie Bowl football game offered ere
~ y University of Alabama a $780,
noo NM guarantee today to play here
w. W. Ian. /, and university Of
w. n.;ols said the bid was taken un~
Jar advisement.
" enorts sources predicted on an
..,,.r would be made until after
No Crimson Tides game with
: ro,,isianna State at Tuscaloosa
soud seoot,rday. They said that if Ala
osrr osuoa defeated L. S. u, the team
pOssnbablv Os, would be in line for a
pi1I Pr to the Sugar or Orange Bowl
games. ,.o. rr.nl Tbo,,,-
>. ssid the invitation was turn
~ a. over to the faculty athletic
81 .dvisory committee. No comment
S.s Az available from its members.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
City Briefs

]. R: Taylor and Ray Sweazey,
members of the executive staff
OF the coastal district Boy Scouts,
will attend a meeting sin High
Point, Friday night, with Gun
mar H. Berg, national director of
professional training of Boy
Scouts of America.
The, U. S. Coast Guard operates
more than a score of schools,
teaching trades and skills, and
men may continue their educa-
ton and earn while they learn
If you enlist through the local
office in room 202 of the U. S.
Custom house.
The Church of the Good Shep-
herd, Sixth and Queen streets,
will sponsor a spaghetti supper
Thursday night at the church
from $50 to $3.50 o'clock. The
public is extended a cordial in
vitation.
Reservations can be made by
calling Mrs. Marsden Gore, 1876,
or Mrs. J. W. Capps, 5146.
Consideration was being given
yesterday to the illumination of
Castle street between Fifth ave-
nue. and Seventh street with
Christmas lights if sufficient
number of Interested merchants
subscribe costs at once with the
Retail Merchants association, ac-
cording to John H. Farrell, Cham
ber of Commerce executive secre-
tary If the money is put up, the
lights undoubtedly will be install
ed, he said.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
Obituaries
r. E. WEEKS

Funeral services for r. E.
Weeks, who died in Raleigh Sun
day night after a long illness
were held yesterday morn
ing at II O'Clock from the chapel
of the Ward Funeral home with
the Rev. E. W. Pate, pastor Of
Calvery Baptist church, officiat'
ing. Interment followed in
Oakdale cemetery. He is surviv-
ed by his wife, Annie Brown
Weeks, two sons, ]. F. of Will
mington, and M. H. Weeks OF
Port Arthur, Texas, one sister,
Mrs. J. H. Bell of Kinston.
Mr.. Weeks was a member of
the Junior Order of American
Mechanic.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
CAVALIERS CONTINUE
DRILLS FOR WOLFPACK

CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA, Nov.
19-(P)-The Virginia squad con-
tinue to divide its time between
offense and defense today in
preparation for what looms as
a bitter struggle with North
Carolina State here Saturday.
Coach Art Guepe designated
the plays most likely to succeed
and had Cavalier backs run
them repeatedly to get the
movement and timing of block
ers on a split second schedule.
The Cavaliers are approach
ing their home game in good
physical shape and should be
'7oueWIoJ19d Ye7d e IoJ Apeel
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
British Boxing Board
Hands Back Flyweight
Crown To J. Paterson

LONDON, Nov. 19-P)-Bri-
tain's Boxing Board Of Control,
reversing a previous decision
after reviewing what it described
as new evidence, decided tonight
to hand back to Jackie Paterson
of Glasgow, Scotland, the World
Flyweight boxing title it took
away from him last July.
Stripped of his British and Bri-
tish Empire Crowns as we'll as
his world championship for fail
ure to meet Dado Marino of
Honolulu in a title bout at Glas-
gov July Is, Paterson went into
court and obtained an injunction
against the British Boxing Board.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
ANTHONY w. GORE

TABOR CITY, Nov. 19-An-
thony w. Gore, seventeen
months-old son of Mr.. and Mrs.
Herbert Gore, of Route 3, Tabor
City, died at his home Wednesday
morning at 8 o'clock after a long
illness. Funeral services will be
held from the Bethel Methodist
church Thursday at 11:00 o'clock
with the Rev. H. F. Surrette, pas
tor of the Mt. Tabor Methodist
church in charge and interment
will follow in the Bethel ceme-
terry. The body will remain at the
Jessup-Inman chapel until the
hour of the services. Surviving
besides the parents are one sis
ter, Marilyn, two brothers, Gene
and William, all of the home.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
MRS. D. GREENE

FAIR BLUFF, Nov. 10. Mrs.
D. T. Green, SIS, died Wednes-
day morning at II o'clock at the
home of her son, after an illness
of several months. funeral serv-
ices will be conducted Thurs
day, at 2:30 p. M, from the
residence, by the Rev. r. w.
Strickland of Whiteville, assist
ed by the Rev. Grant Russell,
of Mount Holly. Interment will
follow in the family cemetery.
Surviving are her husband, d.
F. Green, a son Dewey, with
whom she resided: one daughter,
Miss Jackie Green four brothers,
J. H. Williamson Of Atlanta, Ga.
julie Williamson Of Whiteville
and Lot Williamson Of Chad
bourn. One sister, Mrs. Mary
Williamson.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
DAVIDSON POINTS
TO SIX-WIN YEAR

DAVIDSON, Nov. 19-P-The
Davidson Wildcats, pointing to-
ward their first six-win season
since 1888, stressed offensive tao
tics today in drills for Saturdays
game with the Citadel.
Hurdles remaining in David
sons path to six 1947 victories
are The Citadel and Furman.
Coach Bill Story warned his
charges that neither is to be
taken lightly.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20

leigh (13-l3 tie) and Rocky Mount
(2-2 tie). An all over season
record lists Goldsboro with three
wins, against five setbacks and
two ties.
A new coach-Emory Atkins
failed to help the Rocky Mount
Blackbirds who zoomed into the
league cellar with a winless sea-
son after finishing in sixth place
last year. The Birds came close
to victory against the Wildcats
and again against the Quakes,
but had to settle for an unusual
draw with Goldsboro.
The Final conference standings
for 1916 and 1877 are as follows: {:
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
TOUGH SLATE

EAST LANSING, Mich, Nov.
19-P)-Three of the current
football campaigns major un-
beaten and united elevens-
Michigan, Notre Dame and Penn
State-will appear on Michigan
State colleges 1948 grid slate, ath-
letic director Ralph H. Young
announced today.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
ON EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE

DR.. J. F. Robertson, of Will
mington, was named on the
executive committee of the Sea-
board Air Line Board of Sur
geons at the banquet which con-
cluded their two day convention
at Miami, Fla, last night. The
surgeons returned to their homes
on a special train after the con-
vention.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
MRS. MATTE L. PRIEST

kLlLABEIHIOW NOV. IL
Funeral services for Mrs. Matte
L. Priest, IS, beloved resident
Of Council and a member of a
prominent Bladen county fam
lily, will be held Thursday at two
o'clock from the Mt. Horeb
church with interment in the
church cemetery. Mrs. Priest
died at the home of her son,
Homer Priest, Wednesday morn
ing after a long illness. Survi-
wing are one daughter, Mrs. r.
A. Porter, of Emerson, two sons,
J. Bryon Priest and Homer
Priest of Council, two stepsons,
Lee G. Priest and Charlie A.
Priest of Lisbon, 16 grand
children and six great grand
children.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20
PLAYERS DRAFT

COLUMBUS, O., Nov. 19-R)
Seven double-A clubs of the
National Association of Profess
sional Baseball Leagues picked
1T players today in the annual
draft, minor league president,
George M. Trautman announced.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20

Leftover cereal such as homi-
ny or farina may be poured into
a pan, chilled in the refrigerator
and then sliced and dipped in
flour and sauted in bacon drip
pings, butter or fortified mar
garine.
The Wilmington morning star., 1947-11-20

Buttermilk may be used inter-
changeably with sour milk-if it
is not too old-in most recipes.