The Waterbury Democrat., 1945-11-20
-on the SpOt- MdcArthur;s Data Confirms Statistics Assembled by NaUy
By UNITED PRESS

sional Pearl Harbor investigation began at 10:07 a. m. yesterday.
 Rear Admiral T. B. Inglis, chief of Naval intelligence, and Col. Der nard Thielen of the War depart ment general staff again were on the stand.
 Chairman Alben W. Barkley, D., Ky, opened the crosS-examination He commented that to forestall charges of having the last word" he would discard his former pro- cedure of asking questions after all other members and would ask them more often at the start of the cross examination.
 He asked Inglis if the Navy's statement on the Japanese plan was based entirely on documents and ir- terogations after the war. IngliS re- piled that some of the Jap testimony was taken before the war ended.
 Includes Generals Information
 When Barkley finished, Rep. Jere Cooper, D., Tenn, questioned Inglis about a report from Gen. Douglas MacArthur dated Oct. 26. Inglis said his testimony included the informa- hon from MacArthur.
 Cooper asked whether two Jap anese Zero reconnaissance planes reached Pearl Harioor an hour be- lore the attack. Inglis said such a statement appeared in "a previous draft" of his prepared testimony, but was changed later because the Navy has mo definite proof" that It occurred.
 Sen. Scott w. Lucas, D., Ill., asked whether the Army and Navy had worked on the report of Japanese plans Independently"
 Inglis said the Army had mo di- rect connection" with it. But, he added, the Army and Navy had worked together throughout the war Tn questioning prisoners and had "interchanged" captured documents.
 Material Conforms
 Lucas asked if there was any ma tertal difference between what the Navy found and what Macarthur found in the interrogations.
 1nglis replied that "in general terms" the material from MacAr- thur merely confirmed" what the Navy earlier had learned from other sources. There were few cases of conflict" but they were minor, he added.
 IngliS said the Japanese became more conservative" in their estimate Of American planes destroyed at Pearl Harbor as time went on. First they announced the figure as 450, but in later claims reduced this fig ure to l57. In~lis said that since the l57 figure "p-s never used in an official announcement" the U. s. Navy used 450 figure. He testified Saturday that actual U. s. plane losses totalled about 200.
 Records Missing
 Brewster wanted to know if the station records for Hawaiian radio broadcasts were available for the period preceding the attack. Inglis referred him to later witnesses.
 Brewster said he understood some of them were presumed to be miss ing. Inglis agreed. He added that Navy records showed they were turned over to g Major Putnam.
 Under questioning by Brewster, 1nglis disclosed that the contin- gent "turn-back" order to the Jap- anese fleet-to call off the attack in the event of diplomatic settle ment-was included in the general battle instructions issued by Imper- ial Naval headquarters on Dec. 2.
 Rep. John W. Murpry, D., Pa, asked Inglis if the Japanese sub- marine pilot taken prisoner at Pearl Harbor still was alive and available. 1nglis said the Navy was trying to find him.
 Chart Purloined
 Murphy asked where is the orig inal of the captured Japanese sub- marine chart. The witness said that after it had been photostated 1t was "purioined by souvenir hunter"
 Later, however, Inglis interrupted Murphy to say that he had been handed a note" revealing that there were several copies of the chart. He said they would be presented later.
 Murphy said he wanted the 'or- iginak" of every document made available to committee members. He reviewed list of every docu- ment and photostat Inglis had mem tioned, asking where the originals were. Many are still at Pearl Har- bor. in intelligence files.
 Inglis said the original of Jap anese top secret operation order No. 1"-which on Nov. 5. l94l set forth to fleet commanders the com pleted plan for the Pearl Harbor attack-"is here in Washington but 1t is in such an advanced state of deterioration that 1t cannot be ham dled."
 Working Since June
 Tn answer to a question by Sen Homer F.. Ferguson, R., Mich, Ing Its said that "the people working on this. report (of Japanese war plans) have been working since the middle of June"
 Ferguson said he understood that Secretary of State James P. Byrnes had made a statement using some of this information"
 Do you know who eyaluated this for MT. Byrnes2" he asked.
 Inglis consulted with his aides and replied that "the substance" was reported to Byrnes.
 Ferguson said he noticed Secre- tary of the Navy James Forrestal had used the same information. Inglis said he would get copies of the statements that were given to the two secretaries.
 (Forrestal in a speech and Byrnes later in a press conference state- ment said the Japanese operation order and other information on the timing of the plan disposed of the contention that former Secretary of State Cordell Hull precipitated the Pearl Harbor attack by his Nov. 25 note to the Japanese negotiators, rejecting Japanese terms and out lining U, s. proposals for settlement of Pacific matteTs)
 Report Does Not Cheek