The Daily Alaska empire., 1945-10-30
 BEFORE CAB
 IN CONFLICT
Alaska Airlines Asks Both Interior and Coastal
 Routes 10 States

WASHINGTON, Oct. 30 Con- flicting methods for clearing up the Seattle-Juneau, Alaska, trans portation bottleneck were presented by two airlines at a Civil Aero nautics Board hearing yesterday.
 John w. Cross, speaking for Alaska Airlines, Inc, told the board that air traffic presented the only solution to the Alaska Seattle transportation problem, and added that Alaska lines were better or ganized to fly the route than do- mestic United States companies with little or no previous Alaskan 
 lie pointed out that steamship rates per ton-mile from Seattle to the North were among the highest in the world and that frequently the over-water trip to Juneau takes as long as nine days
 Cross estimated that airlines will eventually carry as many as 100000 passengers annually between the United States and Alaska.
 United Airlines, Inc, disputing Cross testimony. claimed that domestic airline would provide better and more dependable service than an Alaskan company.
 Domestic Carrier
 Representing United, John T. Lorch told the board that do- mestic carrier might better absorb deficits during the early years of the service than the smaller AL askaX fines. Tn addition, he said. a large airlines could provide un- broken passenger service to scat tered points in the States. while the smaller companies might be forced to require passengers to transfer.
 He also expressed the belief that most of the passengers on the Alaska States run would come from the south, rather than from the Territory, thus giving an advantage to the domestic companies.
 Two Outlets Wanter
 Alaska Aillines declared it wants two outlets to the States-one to Seattle, another across Canada to Chicago.
 These additional outlets, Cross said, should be established apart from the proposed Oriental service which the CAB examiners recom- mended be routed across Canada to Anchorage and the Orient.
 Alaska Airlines contended in it's argument that the present system under which Pan American has a monopoly between Seattle and Ju- neau, tends to throttle Alaska Air lines traffic because it must de- pend upon Pan American for carrying it's passengers out of AL aska.
 There's plenty of potential air traffic in Alaska and the Orient for three "gateways" to the North, the Civil Aeronautics Board was also told.
 Hugh w. rling. arguing Western Airlines claim to partici- pate in development of service to Alaska, urged that WAL's opera tion between Great Falls, Mont, and Lethbridge, Alta, should be extended to Edmonton, Alta, where it could connect with a proposed Chicago route
 Seattle May Be Out
 Darling said Seattle would prob ably. remain one of the major gateways to Alaska but he cited report by CAB Examiners Ross l. Newlnann and Lawrence J. Rosters predicting that traffic through Chicago may some day exceed that from Seattle.
 He also quoted them as saying l2 states along the Rocky Mountains are a natural feeder area for the Great Falls gateway.
 Darling said Western Air, mean while also is vigorously urging favorable action on its application for an Alaskan service from Seattle.
 We do expect to get to Seattle 7 Darling said Acting board member Harllee Branch, observed that Western Airs lines do not now reach the Puget Sound city.
 Attorneys Heard
 The board also heard attorneys for two Alaskan airlines argue that service to the Territory from Seattle should be given to lines which have developed the Territory
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