Detroit evening times., 1945-12-19

any of the 100000 in currency
which he brought back from
Moscow, or the 100000, 900 or
$500, 100000 which he said he
was commissioned TO spend in
this country, was devoted 10
propaganda.
Mr.. Carp'S accounts appeared
10 have been loosely kept, in
contrast TO his remarkable acu-
men in the gasoline business in
which he became wealthy in
Bridgeport, so the results were
inconClusiVe
TO-DAY, pursuing the sctiW-
ties OF Mr.. Carp AS related
in the old records of the Dies
committee, we find new matters
of peculiar interest.
II appears that when Carp
came back from a trip 10 Rus
sia in 1896 10 organize the Carp
export and import company and
buy battleShip which would
have grown 10 $4,000 or $4,000
tons he didn't know his way
around At first he thought
1--WE could go in and buy
battleShlp the same way that
you can buy tomato -
After a while he said, II
found out"
Unable 10 make progress, he
said he engaged Preston Nc
Goodwin of the Democratic ma
ttonal committee, vaguely de-
Scrlbed as an assistant 10
Charles Nicholson, then chief
press agent for the committee.
A CCORDING 10 the teSti.
"A mony Aaron BenpnSon.
New York attorney. introduced
Carp TO Joseph Zionson Da-
linda. naturallZcd Russian
born dealer in patents. Mr..
Dalinda said ne thought Mr..
Carp'S reat worry was the diff
ilculty Of getting permission
from the state department 10
proCe d with his battleshlp
project
Dalinda then. according 70
the record introduced Carp 10
McGoodwln, and. still according
20 the record. McGoodWln got A
check for 5000 on June IS,
1897. and S2O00O more in
$1,000 bills. exactly one year
later lie was 10 be Mr.. CarpB
public relations man. .----------
Mr. Carp was not satisfied
with his work. however, and
testified that McGoodwin told
him he really needed lawyer
10 help him Therefore. the
record SAYS McGoodwin made
Carp acquainted with Scott
Ferris Of Oklahoma, a member
oi the Democratic national
committee and 2 former mem.
her Of Congress. who knew
Cordell Hull. then secretary ~
state. and President Roosevelt
quite well.
Mr. CARP said ne paid Mr..
vi Ferris 5000 hy check and
SIS. 900 IN 1000 bills on June
"A 1888, and Al other tunes
$1,000 additional
II personally would mako
quite 4 few dollars" Mr Carp
Sad and. becoming more spc-
cifiC, revealed that he expected
80 get S2.OOO.OO0 or per cent
on the total expenditure ~
SlOO0O0O00 If he could deliver
the goods 10 Russia. He in-
tended 10 be very liberal 10 Mr..
McGoodWIn. He might pay him
100000 for his public rela-
tons As for Ferris. Carp
said maybe / did tell hun
that he might get 100000,
Dalnda as well as McGood-
win. appears 10 have had some
part IN introducing Ferris into
the situation and he said Ferris
paid hlm $1,000 IN $500 bills for
his part in making the intro
duction and that McGoodwin
paid hun Sl25O0 for introduce
inc him to Carp Dalinda said
Ferris also pa d some of his
So 600 to NJ G. win for
bringing him into the play. lie
presumed IT vas $1,000.
InaSmuch as Soviet Russia
already WAS represented byan-
efficient buying agency. the
AMTORG, the Dies committee
wondered why il was necessary
20 give the 100000 in currency
and make HIM commission
agent 10 spend SlOC0O0.0O0 or
$500, 10000 in the same field.
II think I sold them the
idea" Mr. Carp replied Il
might he a good salesman"
INCIDENTALLY, il was Carp
Il who fixed at SlOO.0OO,O0O the
amount that he was. TO spend
at a commission of 2 per cent
and Dalinda who said Carp told
him the figure was $500, 600. 900.
Whom were those arrange
ments made with:" Mr.. Carp
was asked.
His New York attorney and
business partner, Morris Wolf,
interrupted TO answer.
"ROsenglotZ."
He was purchasing agent for
the whole Russian government"
Mr.. Carp said.
There WAS no contract