Evening star., 1944-10-12
Defense 10 Quiz
Hitler Ex-Aide
In Sedition Trial.
Dr.. Rouschning Tells
Of Fuekrer's Plan
For u. S. Revolt
BY CARTER BROOKE JONES.

"a PAoiiAACo q ucCdoc ago 10 lOImeQL
! revolution in the United States
and set up national socialist state
we're laid before the jury in the
;edition case today as the defense
look over the examination of the
Feuhrer's former confidant, DR.. Her
mann Rauschning, noted German
refugee author.
Hitler is named in the Govern.
ment's bill Of particulars as the No.
conspirator in the case, and the
26 defendants on trial are alleged
10 have carried out his purpose
through an alleged attempt to un-
dermine the loyalty of the armed
forces in this country. The. defense
has challenged the prose-
cution to show anywhere in Hitler's
writings or in any other authentic
documents Of the Nazi regime the
worldwide conspiracy charged by
the Department Of Justice and par
ticularly any plot to incite the over.
throw Of the American Government.
DR.. Rauschning, who took the
stand in District Court late yester-
day, was the first witness to quote
Hitler directly.
Tells Of Conversation.
Adolf Hitler said" the witness
told the jury, that he had no fear
the United States would again join
a colition of western democracies
against Germany. He said the
United States was threatened with q
bloody revolution He said he would
be able to make this latest revolu-
tion come to pass. He explained
the methods by which he would
be able to paralyze the national
unity of the United States and the
power of resistance of this country"
This conversation, DR.. Rauschning
said, occurred October Is, 1888, at
the chancellory in Berlin at the
time he was president of the Free
City Of Danzig. The witness ex-
planned that he had just returned
from League of Nations meeting
In Germany, and he reported to
Hitler that the situation there was
very tense, following the withdrawal
OF Germany from the league, and
Great Britain might 60 to war
again against Germany, with the
possibility that eventually America
would be drawn in
Hitler, said DR.. Rauschning. saw
no possibility that the United States
would intervene.
He explained" the witness said,
that the United States was not
really a wen-established nation,
but a nation in the making He
said the cleavages in the popula-
ton could be widened to disunite
the country"
Recalls Talk Year Later.
Nearly year later, DR.. Rausch-
ming testified, Hitler said the idea
Of war with America was ridiculous.
He mentioned" the witness re-
called, that during that year there
had been a riot of marines on an
American battleship, and this was
an example that proved that at
least the American Navy would be
fertile soil for propaganda"
DR. Rauschning said Hitler ex-
planned 1t would be easy for him to
follow in America the methods he
had used in Germany to neutral
ize" the police and military forces
toward his policies.
Another time, the witness said,
Hitler and Goebbels and others dis
cussed America at a conference in
Hitler's private apartment in Ber-
lin, and it was agreed that Nad
propaganda could be spread through
various groups in America.
I'VE have to paralyze the will and
national unity of this and other
countries" Hitler was quoting as
saying, as he mentioned also Po-
land, France and Great Britain.
He said" the witness reported,
that the great issue was to liberate
the world from the poison of democ-
racy. with its degenerating doctrine
Of liberty and equality"
Policy in America.
1t would be the policy in America,
DR.. Rauschning said Hitler told
them, to play on the resentment Of
the majority against Negroes, Jews
and other racial minorities, at the
same time emphasizing the necessity
of the strong discipline of a power
full state to dispel trouble between
opposing groups.
Early in 1884 Hitler, the witness
said, again reverting to the United
States in q general discussion of
conditions, mentioned groups Of
German origin in this country as
valuable contacts, adding, I'VE will
have German SA (storm troopers)
there and Hitler Youth"
1t would be necessary, the witness
said Hitler told him, to weaken the
discipline Of the armed forces and
the police, just as he had done in
Austria, where the Nazis gained
the support of the officers and at
least the neutrality of the privates."
Hitler was said to have empha.
sized that the technique was to work
up sympathy for a National Socialist
state through the traditions and
historic surroundings of each coun-
try, rather than trying to impose q
foreign type of government which
would be strange to the people.
Thus, the witness said, Hitler ex-
planned that he could cite George
Washington for his purpose, be-
cause the first President was mot
really democrat. but an aristo-
crat." and similarly Lincoln could
be mentioned as a man of the peo-
pie who would be sympathetic to
the aims OF Germany.
Propaganda artillery"
Hitler, the witness added, called
propaganda the artillery and trench
warfare" Of modern conquest.
Once, at Berchesgaden, the witness
said, Hitler described the basic prin-
ciple Of his police as world revolu-
tion."
DR.. Rauschning testified through
q storm Of defense objections to
nearly every question. Defense at
torneys contended repeatedly that
this testimony had nothing to do
with the charge that the defendants
conspired to undermine the armed