The Waterbury Democrat., 1942-05-18

 Hirschl related, Shonbrun told him he was broke.
 "He said he had no money left and did not know where 1t would come from Hirschl said "The only one who could help him, he said, would be Madeline Webb through some friend of hers.
 "E1e said he didn't want Madeline to get mixed up in anything wrong and he hoped to keep her out of it if he could, but he had wracked his brains every which way to get some money and he couldn't see any way out of 1t except through Madeline. | At this point, Miss Webb, who ap- 1 peared in court this morning wear ing a new, tight-f1tting black dress, broke down and sobbed. Later she regained her composure and audibly clucked her tongue in apparent dis belief at some of the testimony.
 Shonbrun told him the rent was for 1t, Hirschl said. On the day be- fore the murder, he continued, he arrived at the hotel suite about Il a. m.
 Cullen was just getting up out of bed" he said. Miss Webb gasped loudly and covered her face with her hands. Hirschel explained that Cullen had been sleeping on a liv- ing room studio couch while Miss Webb and Shonbrun occupied the bedroom.
 Cullen asked me if I would take his overcoat and pawn 1t for him." Hirschal said. Cullen. 8 snappy dresser, blushed.
 T got $10 for it. used the name Roth at the pawn shop, and came back to the apartment and gave Cullen the $10.
 "Shonbrun said he had finally thought of someone he could get to the apartment-a party by the name of Mrs. Leopold. He said the way he was getting her there was telling Madeline to call her and tell her there was to be a meeting of 10 women at the hotel and she wanted Mrs. Leopold to address them. He thought she would come because she was a very chaitable woman. He thought she would have quite bit of jewelry being as she was quite 8 rich woman and this would be his opportunity.
 Mrs. Leopold Related Mrs. Leopold was related to me on my sisters side through mar riage Git was brought out that Mrs. Leopold was step-daughter-in-law of HirSchls sister who was Shon- bruns mother.)
 "Eli said that he would like me to buy a pair of nipperS for him. I said I would but what would he need them for, and he said, Well, in case Mrs. Leopold has ring l don't want to waste any time He said he'd just clip the ring off,"
 A $1,600 diamond platinum ring was clipped from the finger of Mrs. Reich after she was bound and gagged in the hotel suite. Hirschl was arrested while trying to sell the platinum mounting. The diamond was found concealed in a pillow case in the Bronx rooming house where Miss Webb and Shonbrun were arrested.
 "He asked me to. pick up a few items," Hirschl continued, such as adhesive tape, wire and scissors in case he should have to use 1t. told him I didn't think I would have time to get them. With that, Made line said, If you don't get 1t, eith- CT John or I will
 "He gave me s2 out of the eIO from the overcoat and left"
 Further questioning by Assistant District Attorney Jacob Grumet disclosed that Shonbrun had told HirschI that he was going to have the radio turned on full blast and the water running in the bath tub so that If Mrs. Leopold should scream or anything, ne would drown her noise"
 "Eli said that he was going to | use the adhesive tape." Hirschl said, while John was going to do the tying up."