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The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06
St. Paul AME Zion
SCI Z. Palmer

Al to:45 am. the Rev. Mr.. Pow
All preached to large audience
rom the subject. God OF the Hills
and yallies."
Four we're added to the church
IN the persons Of. Sylvia Boyd, Edna
Hudson. Doretha Collins and
George Davis.
At 2 pm. the Senior Ushers
hoard of ST. Paul held It's 9th an
uIyersary services. Miss Margaret
MARSHALL gave the history OF the
board The City Usher Board union
vas present.
At7:45 pm. the Rev. Dewey Tay-
lor preached on the subject, self
Denial The message was helpful.
Sunday. Dec. Z at 10:45 am. the
uastor will speak on TELL Jesus"
M7:45 pm. a visiting minister will
preach
Tuesday evening. Dec. 8 at pm.
Madam Braxton with her group OF
singers will appear here.
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06

OF concerts Of spirituals and clas-
sizes. The fortunate young people
selected out OF a large group Of
talented musical youth Of wilber-
force are:
Soprano. Ruth Crumpton. New
ark, New Jersey: contralto. Arluz-
ter Musgrove. Tulsa. oklahoma:
contralto. Elizabeth walker. Phil
adelphia. Penn: contralto, Laura
Murphy. Cincinnati, Ohio: tenor.
Jerhnsrd Williams, Buffalo. New
York: tenor. Kenneth Slaughter.
Columbus, Ohio; tenor. Clarence
Henderson. Baltimore Maryland:
Baritone. Roscoe Speller. Washing
ton, ID. c.. Baritone. Enoch Mar
tin. Newark, New Jersey; Baritone.
Banius Hedrick. Chicago, Illinois;
and Bass. William Revere. Dayton.
Ohio.
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06

Tuesday. Dec. . the pastor, ush-
ers and choir will appear at First
Baptist church in Hamtramck dur
ing the anniversary OF the pastor,
the Rev. j. B. Thornton.
The Deaconess board will spon-
sor a pew rally Sunday afternoon.
Mrs. Halle Moore is president.
Mission Circle No. 2 will give a
chicken dinner Saturday. Dec. s
at the home Of Mrs. Pecks. 1902
st. Aubin. Mrs. W. M. Tiller Is
president.
All teachers are asked to be pres
ent each Saturday night. 7.s0 At
1861 Mcpherson. Mr.. Phillips Is
the president.
Willie Mae williams IL reporter.
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06
VISITORS ON
LIBRARY DAY
PROGRAM

DR.. =. c. Isaacs OF the West In
dies and Attorney Theodore o.
Asare OF Africa were principal
speakers at the program observing
Library Day recently at the
Great Metropolitan center. Miss
Willie A. Elicit was mistress OF
ceremonies. Both addresses illu-
strated facts on Negro history.
The program was interspersed
with music by Mrs. Askew and her
son. Thomas Askew. pianist.
william Henson OF Canada. who
was scheduled to speak was I'M
able to be presen..
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06
Little Rock

The congregation worshipped at
Union Baptist church in River
Rouge last Sunday. The Rev. z. C.
Copeland Is pastor The Rev. r. E.
Tate preached the doctrinal sermon
on THE Unity Of Christ to God and
Man"
After dinner. the missionary SER
mon was delivered by the Rev. G.
w. Carr. Mrs. McCrary sang: and
papers were read by Mrs. Cousin,
Mrs. Thomas. Mrs. Brown and Mrs.
Bette wooten.
Mesdames Hale and Palmer are
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06

Rehearsal has begun for the
Christmas cantata to be given sun
day. Dec. rs.
The Rev. ]. s. Murray will preach
Friday evening. Dec. ~.
The solofest at which Mrs. NJ,
Briggs was mistress OF ceremonies
last Friday. was huge success.
Mrs. Jackson and Mrs. Weaver
will be soloists at next Sundays
services.
Last Sunday the Rev. Mr.. Stew
enson OF Toledo was guest speaker.
Pastor Jackson spoke in the eve
ming. The Rev. and Mrs. CONNER
were visitors.
Mrs. T. T. Alexander Is church
reporter.
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06
Wlberforee Singers Have Splendid
Detroit Engagement: Begin Tour

The wilberforce Singers under
the direction OF Paul Roberts.
after a brilliant concert In Detroit.
Michigan. will start this week on
their first extensive tour. They will
appear in the following cities: Sun
day. December z. at $500 pm. at
the Du Sable High School, Chicago,
Illinois. under the auspices Of the
Wilberforce alumni and the AME
churches: In the evening. at the
AME church IN Gary. Indiana, Rev.
S. B. washington. pastor Monday
night. December at the AME
Church in Youngstown. Ohio. Rev.
A. II. Turner, pastor; Tuesday
night. December Q, at Bethel AME
church. Harrisburg. Penna.. Rev.
c. II. Fountain. pastor: on We'd
nesday night. December 10, the
group will be presented in man.
moth concert sponsored by the COM
bined AME churches OF Philadel-
phia at the Metropolitan Opera
House: on Thursday night, Deem
Der IL. at Chester. Penna, under
the auspices OF the Murphy AME
church. on December IL. at Lam
caster. Penna.. under the auspices
Of the associated charities.
The group will return 10 WILDER
force on December IL for the State
wide celebration of the one hundred
fiftieth anniversary Of the Bill OF
Rights. at which time DR.. Mary Nc
Leod Bethune. Bishop Reverdy G.
Ransom. and Acting President r.
r. Wright, Jr.. will speak and the
wilberforce Singers will furnish
special music.
The Singers have been in con-
slant rehearsal for two months and
will nreseuf an Interesting series
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06
Peoples Baptist
s1ss Arndt

A weeks celebration OF the ami
versary OF Peoples Baptist will
end Dec. s with banquet. Among
the interesting speakers will be the
Revs. j. Z. Ray. r. Wright, c. j.
Gadson. j. II. McElroy, Charles Hill,
A. C. Wright and +. NJ. Kaigler
Mrs. T. r. Royal recently gave
birth TO a baby boy.
verlia Mae Berry Is church re-
porter.
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06

When King Solomon comes to life
again, Friday, December ~. at s
pm. at the Macedonia Baptist
church, corner st. Aubin and Null
lett. one OF the charming princess
es shown above will be crowned
queen. The rest with ESQ attendants
will watch the high priest. protray-
ed by the Rev. NJ. l.. Franklin, be-
stow the sanction Of his high office
upon the king, protrayed by the
Rev. II. H. Coleman, and the queen
TO be protrayed by the princess who
reports the largest sum above ten
dollars in the contest now in pro-
gress.
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06
WITH THE CHURCHES


pue to the illness Of the pastor,
A. Rev. Mr.. Benson, last Sunday
earnings message was delivered
!, the Rev. II. Crawford. His sub
,,ct was "A Cradle and a Mangle."
Music was furnished by the Choral
,lub Of which the Rev. Mr.. sharp
d director.
The pastor. who recently suffered
stroke. will leave the city Dec. s
M Chicago where he will vacation
lor several weeks.
Mrs. Matte Lous Ray is church
reporter.
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06
Triedstone Baptist
J45i Russell

The Rev. j. B. Ford. pastor. spoke
Sunday morning on Burdens and
How to Bear Them In the after
noon the Southern Jubilee singers
OF radio fame presented a delight
full program at the church.
Sunday evening the Rev. Mr.. Da-
Wis spoke from John on the sub
ject Love"
In the rally which ended Sunday
s153.25 was realized.
Miss Edna Kirkland Ia church re-
porter.
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06
CORRECTION

The congregation OF Quinn
Chapel OF which the Rev. s. c.
Davis is pastor is not purchas-
ing a new church but has al
read bought one and held their
first services In 1t Sunday, Nov.
30. The church was bought
sometime last July and Is To-
Gated in Detroit at Cameron and
Lynn street not far from Oak
land avenue. Quinn Chapel was
formerly housed in Hamtramck.
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06
Nazarene Baptist
1854 Twelfth

A biblical moving picture will be
shown at Nszarene Baptist church
Friday. Dec. IL at 8 pm.
The president OF the Senior choir
is asking all members to meet Fri
day to prepare for the Christmas
program. Mrs. Thelma Laviolette is
president.
The Rev. ]. II. johnson Is pastor.
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06
Wesley AME Zion
Beechwood and Moore

The second quarterly conference
will be held Dec. z. The Rev. L. p.
Powell. pastor OF st. Paul AME
church will deliver the sermon.
The second quarterly mass meet
ing Of the Detroit district will be
held at John Wesley Thursday, Dec.
~
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06

Tickets may be obtained at the
school office or at the local church
represented by each princess.
Standing left to right they are:
Dorothy Sain. Peace Baptist
church: Doris GIBSON, First Baptist
Hamtramck: Estelle McDuffie, East
Lake Baptist church; Marcelle
Phillipotte. Shady Grove Baptist:
Mammie Jones. Warren Avenue
Baptist: Elsie Thomas. Community
Baptist; Margaret Alderman. St.
Paul AME; jimmie Lee Frazier. st.
James Baptist; Alice Holloway,
King Solomon Baptist: Gladys
Lotion, Second Baptist; Mary
The Detroit tribune. (Detroit, Mich.) 1935-1966, 1941-12-06

Ford, Ebenezer AME: Moami Burns
Peoples Baptist: Stella Bevis. Cor
ithian: Minnie Hightower. Shiloh
BAPTIST and June Malone. ST. Steph-
en- AME.
Others not shown above are Mar
grette Nance. Tabernacle: Mary
Lou Nelson, First Baptist. Inkster;
Lenora Hood, First Baptist. Insti-
tutional; Daisy Reed. Pleasant
Grove Baptist; Mrs. Slaughter,
Storb Branch: Lola Young,
Thompson Avenue Baptist; Minnie
Chapman, Zion Baptist Gladys
Johnson. Our Father. and Beatrice
Goldsby, Hartford Ave. Baptist.
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24
Four Town Officers
 Given Pay Increases
Brgesses Grant Salary Raises to Daily, Wilcox Ftz'
 gerald and Mariana Over PlosMs Opposition

buildings were being erected, it means additional work for the of- ficials and MT. PlosA said he felt that the increases since 1897 would have provided for any increased work without a new pay increase Burgess Andrew O'Toole asserted the tax collector has not had an increase in eight years.
 Despite the increases last night there was still further money avail- able. When the general adminis- trkation budget was approved, under salaries In this was a provision. for $e,ll3.30.. Last year the total for this group was g. ,7,603.: The in- creases in this section amounted to $302, leaving $20S still not speeifi- cally allotted.
 Under taxation salaries, s6,63o was appropriated this year as com. pared with $6,o85 last year. Only si00 of the difference was allotted last night leaving $454 still not spec officially allotted.
 No Motor Patrol Action
 Although Burgess Anderson near the close of the meeting mentioned he felt that the board should ap- prove resumption of the police mo- tor ratrol, action was deferred un- i'll october meeting because two burgesses had to 90 to work after last nights session.
 MT. Anderson said he felt that the motor patrol would not only provide protection in the residential sections, but would also helip help to reduce speeding and could pass through sections where there are taverns, he said. Some women are afraid to pass some taverns for fear of being insulted, he indicated. He felt that sight of the motor patrol would give them more confidence.
 John Wendes of 2 Park avenue was given permission to connect yard drain with the storm sewer mantole on Walnut terrace. The Naugatuck Fuel company was granted permission to erect a sign over Church street near Its office. An application of Thomas Lorapert of 50 City Hill street to become 9 supernumerary policeman was &C., cepted ala placed on file.
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24
 TEN NEW HOMES
 BEING ERECTED
Building in August Hit $62,35O Reports Inspec-
 tor Andrew Bentley

Naugatuck, Sept. A-Buildlng iSi- cluding new construction and alter atlons here In August amounted tc a value of s62,35o, according to the latest report of Building Inspector Andrew Bentley. Of this $5s,4 was in new construction, $3.9O0 in alter ations. New construction included 10 one-family houses, total value 44e,700; one two-family house, ST. GOO: two commercial structures sl7S: one house cellar, $o0o: seven garages, e2.276.
 Alterations were made in four houses at g $500 valuation. There were two commercial structures and one garage demolished. Twenty eight permits were issued and i2 inspections made.
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24
LOYAL DAUGHTERS
 NAME COMMITTEES
Next Beacon Falls Meeting October l3 $74,752
 Town Budget Accepted

Beacon Falls. Sept. 24-Commit- tees for the fall and winter months to raise funds for the society were appointed at a meeting of the Loyal Daughters society of the United church Monday night at the home of Mrs. Frank E. Bronson, Felspar avenue. The October November com- mittee consists of: Mrs. Harold Wil- COX, Mrs. John McGeever, Mrs. Eug- enc Burgess. Mrs. Austin Ford, Mrs. Christian Heiss and Mrs. Charles Mitchell.
 The society will hold its next busl- ness meeting October i3 at the home of Mrs. Louis Clark, Burton road. and the serving committee includes: Mrs. Ralph Upright. Mrs. Sarah Malone and Miss Beatrice Roscoe.
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24

Donald Beauchamp, William Behl- man, John Benson, Alcedes Bilelo, Thomas Bradshaw, John Brady, Richard Bula, Newton Culver, Rog- CTS Currier, Jimmy Davis, William Dawson, Andy Davison, William Desmond, Donald Dibble. Ralph DiAmiano, Bernard Donnelly, Ros- ser Donley, Jr., William Dolan, Fred Englehardt, Anthony FaTar, Jr, Dan Fitzgerald, Thomas Fogarty, Barry Follett, Charles Forish, Ed- ward Furtado.
 Roc"o Gervais, Thomas Gunnoud, James Hackett, Howard Hamaliaa, Vincent Healy, Joseph Healy, James HennesSey, James Kissane, George Kelly, Jack Kane, Frank Klonoski. John Laskey, George Litke, Fred Lawton, Tommy Leary, Jack Leary, Peter Leighton, Donald Leighton, Robert Lynn.
 Donald MacVicar, Jr., Michael Magas, Ronald Mariana, Robert Mariana, Mark Markovitch, Skyles Martin. Jr., William Mascola, Wil- liam Mastrankeli, Arthur Mastran- geli, Richard Matthies, William Matthies, George Matthies, Frank lin Matthies, Louis Mather, Manuel Matos, William Mates, Vernon Max well, Dina Mangacci, James Meg. zio, John McDermott, Garry Me- Kee, James McNamee, Frank Mil- Ter, John Montanari, John Mor- ris, Jack Motta. Domenic Narduc- ci. John Nori, John Ostroski, Mer- win Packer, John Piccoli, Earl Phillips Tommy Pointon, Robert Pointon, John Quirke, Robert Rab- toy, Adam R. Raczkowski, Frederick Radcliffe, Albert Raytkwich, Jr. George Ravenscroft, William Reed Joe Reynolds, Tommy Reynolds,
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24
PUZzLER AGAIN
 OFFERED BOARD
Public Sentiment Sought on How Far Community
 Ambulance Should Go

Naugatuck, Sept. 24-The borough board was handed q familiar pug zler last night, the much-discussed (but never settled) question of how far from the borough the com munity ambulance should go. War; den Leo Brophy brought up the matter, saying he felt the board should make a definite decision on 1t, adding that he recently refused & request that the ambulance take a local, man from hospital an New York state to the borough because he felt he was not the one to decide the matter.
 After much discussion, the board decided to try to get public senti- nent" on 1t and act at the October meeting. Warden Brophy pointed out that there Is the problem if the ambulance should be sent far away and then calls for 1t here came in, what would be done. He said he did not want to refuse the request. He said the police car was later requested but there is noth- ing on the records, that a police car has been sent out of state On such an errand. The warden does not have the right to decide, nor should any one man be put "on the spot" he said.
 The old ambulance made two trips to New York and one to Mass achusetts, Police Chief John Gorm- ley said, but he favored a 75-mile limit for the ambulance. Burgess Joseph Dinneny pointed out that New York or some places in Mass achusetts are only 10 or IS miles more than this and felt the ambu- lance could be allowed to go there.
 Some burgesses felt that the 75. mile limit should apply only to this state. Burgess Rudolph Anderson then raised the question If the am- bulance would be allowed to trans port veterans to veterans hospitals outside of the state, and some fa- vored this. MT. Dinneny pointed out ti Is community ambulance end asked why just war veterans should be taken out of state.
 Warden Brophy said he feels 1t should only be allowed to 60 out at the request of Q doctor and in- dicated some other than 6 doctor had requested it.
 No SupernumeraRles Named
 There was no appointment of police Supernun1eraries at the Sss- sion but after the meeting, War; den Brophy said he believes these appointments will be made at the October meeting of the board.
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24

1CO; the assistant borough clerk s regular salary was boosted from $1,- 348 to $l,450; the collectors salary was raised from $l,8oo to $500 and the salary of the borough treasurer was increased from $400 to $500, all of these being retroactive to April 1, when the present fiscal year started.
 Burgess Rudolph Anderson, Re- publican, said he felt that the bor- ough residents should know that the borough clerk and assistant bor- oug!i clerk get additional pay for other work, referring to $100 pro- vided for indexing the old age tax cards which work i3 done by the as- assistant borough clerk, and $250 for compiling the rate books, which work is done by the borough clerk and the assistant borough clerk, with the former getting SITS for this and the latter S75.
 Burgess Joseph Dinneny made the motion for the increases and on the vote, the three Democratic bur- gesses voted for it and the two Re- publican burgesses present, Ander- son end Ploski, did not vote.
 Burgess Ploski, however, during discussion on it said he was op- posed to the increases. He pointed out that in Io37 the borough clerk was getting $i.800 and by l940 he had been raised to $2,000.
 Reasons Cited
 Tn 1897 the assistant borough clerk got $l,040 and in i940 was getting $i,348. he said and the borough treasurer in 1887 got $500 and by ig40 was getting s400. He said he felt that these officials had been compensated for any increase in work they may have had. Compare she amount of work done then and done now, he asserted.
 Burgess George Fellows queried: Don't you think living expenses have increased since i037?" and Burgess Ploski replied that they had increased for everybody. He said the borough often gets increased revenue dun to new building and he feels the taxpayers should get increased service because of the additional revenue,
 Burgesc Dlnneny said the taxpay- CTS approved the increases at the annual freemen's meeting, and Mir. ploskl asserted that the increases were iis a lump sum then, not spec cikie. Mr. ploski then stated sFank- ly he opposed the increases, saying that he does not think there are ad- 0lalopal duties for the officials. Bur~ sess FelloNs pointed cut z nsW
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24
.MIDCETS CLASS
 STARTS OCT. 1
Y Gym Members Anxious to Start Seasons Physi.
 cal Training Program

Naugatuck, Sept. 24-The open ing day for the Naugatuck "" Midgets gym class will be Wed- rnesday, Oct. ], and the boys are quite anxious to start the seasons physical training. There will be a lot of enthusiasm in this class in the opining weeks, as every boy will try his best to gain his name on the Junior Leaders Corps.
 This year the corps will be picked from this group. In recent years, many boys from the Junior class had paper routes, jobs after school, football practice, and their studies, made 1t so that the entire group seldom were together at the train- ing sessions, so Midgets will try to fill the bill and keep up the won- derful standard that the Junior Leaders Corps held in the past nine years.
 The Midgets group consists of: Alex Adaskaveg, Arvld Anderson, Henry Almeida, Stanley Alexinski, Tommy Ashmore, James Aquavia, Bernard AVcollie, Kenneth Barrett,
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24
RADIO WANTS TOWN TO PAY FOR AUTO
Request for Golden Hill Street Repairs Referred
 to Borough Engineer

Naugatuck. September 24. - Dan. iel Rado of 34i High street claimed damages from the town at the bur- gesses meeting last night because his car had paint scraped off and a running board strip ripped off when he passed over King street near Field street recently. Warden Leo Brophy said Rado told him some man told him he could get through the street. The borough clerk was instructed to ascribe the extent of the damage to the Rado car.
 A request for repairs on Golden Hill street extension was referred to the street committee and the bor- ough engineer.
 The Connecticut Light and Power Company was granted permission to install four nalholes and con- meeting duct lines on Elm street from Rubber avenue to the Nauga- tuck Chemical Company property. It was explained high tension wires there are interfering with the regu- lar load and will be put under ground.
 GSGk LOCAL heAp
 The warden informed the board of state engineer concerning the Bridge street bridge, which needs new flooring and reinforced end posts. MT. Brophy said he is trying to have the government assume at least part of the estimated $5 900 expense as a defense project. He said 8 government representative was here last Friday to discuss the advisability of putting new road from Cherry street extension to the site of the new synthetic rubber plant.
 The warden feels the bridge is essential to the town and would be essential for defense purposes also. It ts expected four signs will be placed soon. warning that the ca- pacity of the bridge is seven tons. One will be placed at the intersec- ton of North Church and Bridge streets, another at the junction of Bridge and North Main streets, and two on the bridge itself.
 MT. Brophy pointed out there is $i 900 appropriated for bridge main- tenance In the present budget and he expects there will be $2,600 left from the town aid fund which could be used for putting new flooring on the bridge. He stressed that this is not enough and that heads of all departments must cooperate t0 save wherever possible. The board did not act on this matter.
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24

are installing the equipment
 The actual contract for the nnilding itself has not been let yet, according to Phil Rice, Chemical company factory manager.
 Deeds in connection with sale of land for the site of the synthetic rubber plant and surrounding ter- ritory have been filed here recently at the office of Town Clerk Ray Inond J. St. John.
 The deeds show the following: the New York, New Haven and Hartford railroad have conveyed two pieces of land to John s. Dole with MT. Dole apparently being an intermediary. John s. Dole has conveyed a piece of land to the De- fense Plant corporation, one piece of land to the borough of Nauga- tuck and piece of land to the United States Rubber company; the borough of Naugatuck has sold to the Defense Plant corporation piece of land for $6,0O0 land other valuable considerations; Joseph Freeman and others have conveyed a piece of land to the U. s. Rubber company.
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24
CANE FINES POCS
 $1OO, $50 REMITTED

Naugatuck, Sept. A = Domenic Pocs of R. P. D. 1, Naugatuck, found 1t costly to operate an auto while his license was under suspen- sion. He was fined $lo0 and costs in borough court today by Judge Martin L. Caine and later the judge remitted $50 of the fine.
 Patrolman John Hanley arrested pocs yesterday.
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24

Naugatuck, Sept. 24.-salary in- creases for Borough Clerk Charles F. Daly, Assistant Borougoh Clerk Theresa Wilcox, Tax Collector James F. Fitzgerald and Borough Treas urer Anthony Mariana were voted by the board of warden and bur- gesses last night, with Burgess Will liam Ploski third ward Republican opposing the increases.
 The borough clerks regular sal- salary was raised from 5000 to $2,-
The Waterbury Democrat., 1941-09-24
Factory Excavation Underway

Stuart Rockhill, Richard Roland. Edwin Ruella, Caesar Ruggeri, John Curtiss Russell, Jr.
 William Schlesinger, Edward Sod- losky, Robert Schlesinger, Jack Stinson, William Stinson, Jr., Jo- seph Summa, John Summa, Cliff ford Teeple, Jr., Albert Traisnal, Howard Vagt, Thomas Walsh, Jr, Thomas E. Walsh, Charles White Edward White, George Waterhouse, Winfield Witherwax, Jr., Eugene Wrublewski, James Woodward, and Frank Wynne.