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VIC. Has Staff IL
Trained Teachers

V1rglnla-CarOl1na mas q total
enrolment of 357 students this
year who are instructed by a staff
of twelve well-trained exper-
fenced teachers. The enrolment
in the grades is 221 and 1876 in the
high school proper. This year be-
cause of increase in attendance
an extra teacher was added to the
high school department.
Prof. George M. Van Hoy, prin-
cipal of Virginia-Carolina high
school, is a graduate of the
.versity of North Carolina, M. A.
University of North Carolina, M.
A. degree in education. For four
years he was assistant principal
of Piney Creek high school and
has been principal of Virginia
Carolina for the past four years
Mr.. Van Hoy teaches history and
mathematics.
Other members of the high
school faculty are: Mr.. F. c. Nye,
teacher of French, ALGEBRA, and
science who has had forty years
of successful experience as prin-
cipal, superintendent. and teacher.
Prof. Nye graduated from Wake
Forest college, 1900, A. B. degree.
He has done professional work in
Columbia University, Chapel Hill
and E. c. r. c.
Miss Julia Hager. of Max Mea-
dows, Va, a graduate of State
Teachers College, Radford with b.
S. degree, has taught home econ
omics and related subjects in the
Virginia-Carolina high school for
the past nine years.
Mr.. Matthew Reynolds. grad
uate of Virginia Polytechnic In
stitute. Blacksburg, Va, B. S. de-
gree, has directed the agriculture
department for the past five
years.
Mr.. Bruce Bowlin, Peak Creek,
graduate of Elon college with
an A. B. degree, has taught math-
ematics and history for the
past two years, and in addition.
has coached the boys basketball
and baseball teams.
Mrs. Irene Dickson Cox. of
Grassy Creek, a graduate of APP
palachian State Teachers College,
with B. S. degree taught Eng
and physical education for the
past year, and in addition, has
coached the girls basketball
team and softball team.
In the grammar grades are: Mr..
Edgar Ashley, Grassy Creek, who
attended Appalachian State
Teachers College, and State
Teachers College, Radford, Va,
teaches the seventh grade and So
cial studies, and departmental
work in the sixth grade.
Mrs. Matthew Reynolds, Gras-
sy Creek, attended State Teachers
College, Radford, and Virginia
Polytechnic Institute, has taught
the fifth and sixth grades.
Mrs. Eloise Young Williams,
Grassy Creek, who attended
S State Teachers College, Rad
ford. is the teacher of the third
and fourth grades.
Miss Mabel Spencer, Rugby,
who attended State Teachers
second grade. Miss Myrtle Pugh,
Grassy Creek, attended State
Teachers college, Radford, Vir-
ginia and is the first grade teach
er.
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April, 1912, or this notice will be
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All persons indebted to said es-
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payment.
This the 18th day of April, 1941.
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Warrensville News

Week end guests of Mr.. and
Mrs. S. H. Stanley included Mr..
and Mrs. J. M. Stanley and son.
Harrel, Mr.. and Mrs. H. B.
Browning and sons, H. B., Jr. and
Brooks, Mr.. and Mrs. John Bats
don and little daughter, Frances
Gaynelle, Misses Polly Baisdcn
and Geraldine Browning. all of
Patterson, Va; Mr.. and Mrs. c.
M. Stanley of North Wilkesboro;
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NORTH CAROLINA
ASHE COUNTY
IN THE MATTER OF G. P.
WOOD, ADMINISTRATOR OF
THE ESTATE OF JAMES BUR-
CHETT AND THE HEIRS OF
SAID ESTATE --., VI
NOTICE OF SALE
Under and by virtue of War
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Carolina to the undersigned di-
rected, I, ]. E. Roland, Sheriff of
Ashe County, North Carolina,
will sell to the highest bidder for
cash at the Courthouse door in
Jefferson, North Carolina, at one
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day of May, 1941, all the right,
title and interest which James
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time of his death in and to the
following described land lying
and being in Chestnut Hill Town
ship, said County and State, to-
wit:
Bounded on the North by the
lands of J. c. Pierce; on the East
by the lands of G. K. Caldwell; on
the South by the lands of Tom
Vaught and Mary Vaught and on
the West by the lands Of Tom
Vaught and fully described in a
Deed from J. c. Pierce and wife
to James Burchett, ct al, which
is recorded in the office of the
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Register of Deeds of Ashe County
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Deed and record reference is
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land containing Is acres, more or
less.
This April %, 1941.
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the estate of F. H. Neal, deceased,
late of Ashe County, North Caro-
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having claims against said estate
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The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14

knocked out the ring he back and battered the Ar
gentine Alp to pulp
Dempsey thinks Louis will beat Conn., because he doesn't
think Bys science will survive Joes inevitable dynamite
He thinks gradual pummeng of Conn by Louis will slow up
and eventually work the undoing of Conn.
That the happened in the second Bob Pastor
bout Louis after the New York grid immortal of NYU
and was surprised by being charged in return by Pastor
Bicycle Bob had told his Louis Overrated and
that he could have whipped Joe the first time out had not he
(Bob's manager) held him in check.
But didn't take long to convince Pastor he was wrong
Louis him down four times in the first round and
the bell saved him.
Louis tagged Pastor again the second canO got un
der way. That when Bicycle Bob got on his bike as
of old But the constant drilling he took at various
sapped the young mans energy. His legs became lumpy
and heavy his knees bucked and in the eleventh round
when tired he could hardly hold up his guard Louis
cut him down with jolting right elevang left upper
cut and pOwerladen right He was down and all ne
way the full count
Conn is a champion we'll challenger against LOUIS
Holding the lightweight by cashing in on born cour
age the fighting rshman like any champion at hearI WI"
tv to fight Louis That will be wrong-so the column must
take Louis by kayo.
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14
LOU GEHRIG PRAISED BY HIS
C0L0RED PREP TEAMMATE, PAL.
HENRY {. PARKER, JR.

During the ensuing years, Wneh
Gehrig vent to Columbia where
he starred on the football team as
a guard Lou weighed 2l2 pounos'
and smacked the ball all over the
lot az Columbias first baseman,
the two Henrys kept in touch with
each other, and at no time dlo
Gehrig, then on his way to the
heights in baseball, ever forgot has
former teammate. Henry Parker.
The latter has constantly said he
considered Gehrig one CT his best
friends and their relationships
through the years proved this 10
be true.
Ask Henry Parker. Jr, of the
Pittsburgh Y what type of man
Gehrig was and you'll find that
what everybody else Is saying Is
no exaggeration of that thing call
ed the truth. Even now, Parker
will tell you interesting stories OF
the big ruddy faced German boy,
whose clean life was an eXempli-
cation Of ali that sports is supposed
TO teach,
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14
PUBLIC BUILT LOUIS UP AS super MAN. j,
But ANY FIGHTER May BE HIT BLACKBURN
Brown Bomber Hits just As
Hard Lot Smarter-BIackburn

GREENWOOD LAKE, N. Y
(SNS)-"It's them fellows that get
down on the floor that bother me.
GUYS like Arturo Fodoy and Little
Fat Boy Music whc fight out OF a
crouch They don't give you noun
ing but head it hit. You are likely
to bust your hands"
1t was world heavyweight cham"
pion Joe Louis talking during
lull in his roadWork, a six mile
round "trip hike about the sur
rounding hills with sweat togs
draped about his body.
ONLY GRUDGE AGAINST
SCHMELING
ST haven't rightly been excited
since the last Max Schmeling fight.
Of course, I tried a little harder
against Godoy and Bob Pastor
They made me look bad the first
time. but the kick wasn't there.
Guess maybe I fight too much"
While it is quite evident Louis
hasn't put the most in his punch
ing in every fight. it is still MS
opinion that he can really load
runch when he cares.
"HONEY" OF PUNCH
THAT left to the belly against
Red Burman was about as gooo
a punch as l ever threw, the
champion smiled.
Trainer Jack Blackburn, chlmeo
in at that point:
He hits Just as hard and knows
a lot more about boxing. DiIler-
ences in Joe's fights are not III
Louis but his opposition.
"They used to fight Joe III
tie" pointed out the trainer.
They'd come to him. and he'd nelC
'em out. Now they get in the rillS
with only one idea-to hang on
and stay as long as possible
"A pretty bad fighter can make
a good one look mighty bad when
he lust tries to go the distance"
MUST BE MAD
Louis has TO De mad now to real
ly send home" those Sunday
punches Perhpas Billy Conn can
| arouse him.
| Then, maybe, We'll see fiaSf
of the old Joe Louis.
Jack Dempsey saw the LOUIS
BIrman fight and is inclined t(
agree that left to the midritf Het
took from Joe was q devastating
a wallop as the Brown Bombel
ever hurled. Dempsey says i
caught Burman with so mucf
force that Red simply didn't fee
it; it was a case of painless surg
J cry.
II the newshounds keep "loW
rating" Louis in order to huild-ul
Conn, they're going to make
mighty hrd for Billy Joe mlgh
get mad.
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14
THERE IS NO SUCH THING
AS TECHNICAL KNOCKOUT,
.SNS SPORTS DESK finds

liSsiOn, the boxing rules governing
a knockout were simply:
Q) When a fighter is unable, al
ter being knocked down, to rise ui1-
aided inside of ten seconds.
(2) When boxer is iii distress
but still Oh his feet, and the referee
is forced to intercede to save him
from further punishment.
In 1886, for the reason that man
ayers complained against having
their men listed as being knocked
out" in contests where they had TO
give up because of cuts, distress, and
SO forth, the New York commission
changed the rules as follows:
m Referees and judges shall, In
rendering decisions, consider and
declare a contestant to be knocked
ont when he is unable, after being
fIoOred, to rise unaided inside Of
ten seconds.
(2) If a referee intercedes to save
a boxer from further punishment
then he and the judges shall rem
der the verdict, contest stopped
unable to continue, and name the
winner"
NOTE THAT in none OF the rules
cited above has any mention been
made of a TECHNICAL, KNOCK
OUT. And, Interestingly enough, nc
WRITTEN or VERBAL AUTHOR
ITY for the use of the term tech
nical knockout" can be found any
where. One is left to wonder how
it's use came about anyway.
"RING" EDITOR ALERT
Nat Fleischer, editor of RING
magazine, foremost boxing publlca-
ton in the world, has departed from
convention and NO LONGER lists
"TKO" or writes technical knock
out" opposite any fighters record
A fighter either goes the route
without being kayoed or else gets
KNOCKED OUT. There is no tech
nical knockout. A disqualification OF
foul NAV be declared-but no tech
nical knockout.
MATTER OF INTERPRETATIO
For authority on the writer's con-
tention, he recommends you to Ma
Fleischer. If you want an even
greater authority-the writer refers
YOU to the boxing rule book itself
The rules are presented above; in
terpret them yourself or get a con-
stitutional laWyerm to perform the
lob. Still, when you get through, it's
dollars to doughnutS you'll fine
there's no such animal as a TECH
] NICAL KNOCKOUT.
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14

One thing the column has always kept an eye for when
watching Louis in acohas been the religious manner IN
which he pursues given of action until he himself
gets in trouble.
Then Blackburn or no Blackburn, Louis wades out on
his own The champion goes berserk He becomes mad,
infuriated killer A murder man.
Louis was using left jab, right cross (peck-away)
style Tony GaentO until the gObular gent from orange
departed from the script and popped Joe smack upon the
kisser with olng left uppercut Louis dangled In mid
air like pendulum landing PROSTATE the canvas, his
purple trunks cOnspcuOusy evident to everyone in the park
That was when Louis forgot all about Blackburn and
his Instructions Joe then did what amounts to the acton
of haback football when he takes the ball. runs OFT and
leaves his teammates and yes: interference foer me-!
Louis left his interference to speak, He sank his lett
and right fists into the buging beer barrel and literally
blasted him off his reeke pins Galento, punch drunk
and bleeding with the profusiOn of freshly slaughtered
hog desperately tackled Referee Arthur Donovan in an Ell
fort to keep his feet. But down he went.
Joe Louis was a boxer when he started out against
Ruddv Baer in Washingtons Griffith Stadium But Baef
tagged him with left hook that lifted him clean out OF the
ring That was when things went absolutely contrary 10
conv Louis took complete offensive charge and battered
the California giant with what has been estimated as "A
telling rights and ets Baer kept his feet but when he
cut the champions left eye with punch in the 1th ana
Tous saw his own blood for the first time since winning e
title virtually everybody present knew was curtains 1or
Mrs Baers little boy, Buddy.
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14

GREENWOOD LAKE, N. Y
(SNS)-Is Joe Louis slipping? Is
the Mighty Man of Mayhem begin
ming to show the wear and tear of
a strenuous ring career? Is he liable
to be outspeeded by Billy Conn in
their heavyweight championship
settle at the Polo Grounds the night
Of June 18?
Tut, tish and couple of phoofs,
says Training Jack Blackburn, in
words to that general effect
Maybe Chappie amt gettin' no
Younger" remarks the shreWd old
veteran, but he's only 27 now, and
should be good for at least three
or four more years. Cause Buddy
Bear knocks him out of the ring,
then cuts his eye, they're sayin'
Chappie amt what he was, and is
ready to be taken by some young
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Early Return Match If
BjIIv Conn Beats Louis

fights off," a few moments later
to have the posters all put up again
and declare that "everything's fine"
Jacobs called him in Wednesday,
said he wanted sole rights to Conn
if Billy should win Ray said why
should Jacobs worry, he was the
only guy they'd probably fight for
any way.
NO" said Mike, Il got to have
it in writing, and for three years.
"Three years?" There was an.
guish in Rays tones. why not
make it five?"
Say, that's fine idea," re-
piled Jacobs. We'll make it five"
Conn's switch from Long Branch,
N. j. to Pompten was made at the
suggestion of his doctor, who be-
lieves Billy will be better able to
build himself up if he stays away
from the Seashore. Louis already
is in camp
The terms for the fight remain
the same, with Louis to get forty
per cent and Conn twenty per cent.
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14

WASHINGTON (ANP)- When
Henry Louis Gehrig, noted first
baseman of one of the greatest
teams of all times, died last week,
Henry C. Parker, Jr., executive
secretary of the colored branch
YMCA in Pittsburgh, lost one OF
his best friends.
When Lou was in Commerce
High school. another native born
New Yorker was also on tfe team
And while Lou was of German eX-
traction, this other New Yorker
was a colored lad. the same Henry
Parker.
Parker was pitcher on the team
which swept through the entire
Public School Athletic league sea-
son with a most remarkable record,
and not only was Parker pitcher.
he was THE pitcher, for some
where along the line that season,
he hurled a no hit shut out
against one of his opponents, a
feat all the more remarkable be-
cause it was q high school team.
PLAXED FOOTBALL TOO
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14
Nv "MELANCHOLY" JONES
(SNS Sports EditOr)

A FEW DAYS ago, the idea that
John l.. Sullivan was ever world
heavyweight champion was explod-
ed-and Atlanta's arch sportsman,
John Wesley Dobbs, was on the dy-
namiting end Of the fuse. 1t was
proved conclusively that there have
been but IA world heavyweight
titleholders - that Sullivan was
nothing more than an American
champion.
Now, the writer is ready to ex-
plode the idea that there is any
such animal as technical knock
out" When a contest is stopped by
the referee because one of the prin-
cipais can't continue action, Wheth-
er il is due to poor physical con-
ditiOn, a cut over the eye, loss OF
blood, hurting in the towel by his
seconds, or any other means than
by a horizontal kayO, it should be
correctly recorded as a KNOCk-
OUT-and not TECHNICAL
KNOCKOUT.
Starting today, you will never
find the writer using the term
"technical knockout" or listing John
T, Sullivan as a world heavyweight
champion. He has learned better
and there is no point in perpetual
ING an error based upon popular
miSconceptlon.
A Knockout may be scored IN
many ways:
Q) When a fighter is completely
knocked OUT OF TIME--cannOt
get to his feet within the prescribed
limit of ten seconds after being
flOOred.
~ When he fails to come out Oi
his corner to answer the bell for the
succeeding round, in which case the
referee counts over him while the
fighter is SEATED. :.
(3) When he is hanging helplessiy
ever the ropes and cannot defeno
himself.
| (4 If he is unable to carry or
during a round because of poor ply
steal condition.
(5) If he is in such distress dur
ing a round that he cannot defeno
himeslf and the referee is forced tC
intercede to save him from further
punishment.
The five conditions above are the
boxing rules on a KNOCKOUT as
thev are TO be found TODAY. Prior
to 1886. when they were revised by
the New York State Boxing Com
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14
IKnockdown, Cut Eye Against Baer
No Sign Joe's Slipping, Asserts
Brown Bomber's Canny Trainer

he didn't was in that first Schmel-
in bout. And look what he did to
Max the second time. All anybody's
got to do is rufile Chappie's dign-
ity, like Galento and Baer did, and
Chappie shows folks he's still boss
in there.
"Some night Chappie may get hit
and knocked out. 1t can happen.
After all, he's only human. But l
don't think Billy Conn's the one to
do it. Billy is fast and a great box
er. But Chappie amt so slow him
self-and he's pretty fair boxer
too. With all his speed and clever
ness, l don't think Conn will be able
to keep away from Chappie for is
rounds.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it'll take
a powerful lot of convincin' by Mr..
Conn to make me admit it,
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14

NEW YORK-(S (SNS)- Though
not the man youn accuse OF chang
ing horses in mid-stream, Uncle
Mike" Jacobs also is not the kind
of man to be caught on the wrong
horse Just when it's getting tired
Therefore promoter Jacobs has
drawn up the necessary papers
which, should Billy Conn dethrone
Heavyweight Champion Joe Louis at
at the Polo Grounds June 18, will
give Jacobs exclusive call on Conn's
services for the next five years.
This accomplishment was not as
easv as it sounds. "Uncle Mike"
first had to persuade Johnny Ray,
Conn's manager, to his way OF
thinking, and Ray took considerable
persuading.
In fact the Jacobs office help
could keep track Of the stormy
four-hour negotiations only by
Jacobs periodic exits from the
conference room-one minute to
tear down all LOuis-Conn ad-
vertising posters and below "the
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14

'un like Billy Conn. Well, maybe
Conn will do it, but l don't think so.
Billy, with his speed, may give
Chappie some trouble, but the
champ will get him somewhere along
the way. Leastways, that's how l
feel about it.
1.-THE public's built Chappie up as
a super-man, and any time he hap
pens to get hit on the chin, like
he did with Tony Galento and Bud
dy Baer, it's supposed to be sign
that he's slippin.'
ANY fighters apt to be hit. There
never has been one who didn't get
nailed sometime or other. Specially
when he's willing to ke a
chances like Chappie does.
But don't forget that any time
Chappie's been hit and hurt, he's
come back fightin' mad. Only time
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14
Xavier Produces Eight OF 1941;
Track And Field Champions
Bv RIG ROBERTS

WASHINGTON. d C.-(SNS) =
A few days ago at Hampton IN
stitute, it was suggested that q
rational intercollegiate track meet
involving the four major college
groups be held-a Zig Four" five
star final.
Most of the college coaches may
not share this view. A few of them
feel that track is futile unless
colored star is entered at one OF
the big white meets, and with
success. Men like Cleve Abbott and
Tom Verdell and Sam Taylor en-
vision track primarily a sport IN
which to successfully carr?
out challenges against Princeton,
Michigan, Harvard, etc To them, a
Mozel Ellerbe, Tom East or a josh
Williamson is to be preferred 10
an All-American halfback
The suggestion did have the
writer roll up his sleeves, however
and set forth the finest track
marks of the year by athletes IN
our own colleges. To do this, 1
have searched the finals of the
Hampton and Tuskegee Relays
May 10, and the CIAA, SIAC'
MWAC and SWAC intercollegiate
meets held at Baltimore, Atlanta
jefferson City and Baton Rouge
La, respectively. on May IT.
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14
LEO TARRANT WINS 100, 20
IN CENTRAL COLLEGIATE;
ARCHIE HARRIS COPS PAIR

MILWAUKEE,, Wis (SNS) =
Alabama States great sprnter-Leo
Tarrant had little trouble here sat
urday winning the 100 and 22O-yard
dashes at the Central Collegiate
Conference meet.
A product of Birningham's west
field High School, Tarrant display
ed form forecasting a bitter fight
In the same honors at the National
AAU meet in Philadelphia, June
1926. He will be pitted against
Barney Ewell of Penn and Hal Davis
of the Coast in the nations biggest
The Phoenix index., 1941-06-14
BUDDY MOORE, BROWN BOMBER
NO. ], ON L0U|S-C0NN CARD
AT POLO GROUNDS JUNE IS

ring June 18."
Joe's left eye is still swollen. The
memento of the disturbing fifth
heat wherein Buddy Baer was the
socker has caused the champ to- lose
lot of time to tune UP for Conn.
Joe couldn't do a thing in the way
of athletics, but played golf while
waiting for the wound to heal. But
beginning this Sunday, he's in for
an arduous campaign to beat Conn
as quickly and as neatly as possible.
Meanwhile, his opponent, along with
his multi-national menage, CBilly's
cook is German, his trainers Italian,
his manager is a Jew and Billy