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One Wall St., New York City
he Personally Conducts the Course

0ronville B. Jacobs hos hod wide experience not only
os an instructor but oIso os practical business
man, Hos held key positions in direct soes, soIes
promotion and soIes troinino work with The Ceotex
Corporation Of Chicago. Awarded the L. c. Roberts
Fellowship for advanced study OF Columbia Uni
versity New York, le22-1e23. Special lecturer OF
the Walton School Of Commerce and at LoyoIo Uni
versity, Chcoeo. Engaged for special lectures by
Leading organizations such os The White Motor
Truck Co.. The Glen FolIs Insurance Co., The Finon-
eio Advertisers Association Of America. The Sofe
Deposit Association Of Washington, D. c.; Real
Estote Board Of Baltimore, SoIes Forum-Advertsne
Club Of New York.
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or adopted by the individual gov
ernmenta Of the Western Hemis-
phere.
Britain's reply to the American
nations protest against the first ma
jor violation of the neutrality belt
the battle Of Punta del Este in
which three British cruisers drove
the German pocket battleship Ad-
miral Graf Spec into Montevideo-
may be laid before the committee
soon after 1t convenes.
Informed sources in London said
the reply would be sent soon to the
President OF Panama, as head OF
the Panama Conference. While its
nature was not disclosed, authori-
tative British sources have indicated
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designated as Neutrality Commit
tee by the Pan-American Confer
ence, will meet Monday to discuss
measures for keeping the war away
frore the Western Hemisphere.
Experts on political science and
international law, the delegates have
authority to plan practical method
for safeguarding the safety zone"
around the Americas instituted at
Panama by the 81 American repub-
lies last October and to treat with
those who violate it.
Although the committee has no
authority to MAKE any agreements
for the American nations, it is ex-
pected to recommend measures
which, depending upon their form,
can be handled as joint declarations
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tention Of agreeing upon the use
Of force to impose the neutrality
zone upon belligerents." He sug-
gested there were means, how
ever, Of making it Improbable
for belligerent warships to op-
crate In American waters, such as
barring them from obtaining sup
plies from American ports or put
ting in for repairs0
If precedent is followed, DR.
Afranio Mello Franco will presid,
over the committee.
The United States will be repre-.
sented by DR.. Charles Fenwick, DO
htical scientist and Bryn Mawr Col
lege professor. Other nations rep
resented are Argentina, Chile, Mex
leo. Venezuela and Costa Rica.
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<cept Two Conducted by Granville Jacobs

Knute Rockne developed "A American" football players
because he knew his personoIy-they knew him. He
directed their progress from week to the They
received personoIized coaching Thot what this train
ing gives you.
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Crippled Freighter
Towed Into Honolulu

BY the Associated Press
HONOLULU, Jan. 13-The rud-
derless freighter Carmar was towed
into Honolulu today from TOO miles
north, where she was crippled by a
75-mile-an-hour gale.
The Greek-owned freighter Of
Panamanian registry is loaded with
1000 tons of scrap iron from New
York to Japan. Thomas Green, COL
ored fireman from Charleston, S. c.,
said water flooded the engine room
knee deep. 1t took 18 days to tow
the freighter into port.
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that Britain holds the safety zone"
provisions unenforceable.
With the Graf Spec incident in
mind, American ofncials apparently
arc convinced that some means must
be found for putting teeth in the
Declaration Of Panama or that the
neutrality zone must be modified
possibly by reducing its scope, now
extending an average Of 800 miles
from the coast.
Effectiveness Questioned.
It's strongest proponents agree that
in its present form its effectiveness
is questionable unless Germany
France and Britain agree to re-
spect 1t.
I'm Washington. spokesman
said the committee had mo in
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Granutlle Jacobs has personally trained more
business men and ,DoDaen in public speaking,
during the past three years, than any other
instructor in the United States. He has been
training adults in effective speaking and in
dealing toith people for the past fourteen
years. Many leading business and financial
institutions haze engaged his services to i'm
proue their personnel in customer relations
and sdlesn1dnship.
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some oil on his suit, then jest
ed that he would have to wear
a barrel while his garments
were being cleaned. Other
legislators dared him to do it,
and he did.-A. P. Wirephoto.
nations where the individuality OF
the armed forces has been lost in
the solidification Of totalitarian
state, or submerged by political con-
siderations, it is not impossible that
the process contains the seeds OF
disaster when the state must de-
fend itself against foreign enemy,
or seeks the extension Of its power
by those military means whose in
struments it has thus blunted and
deformed. The subordination of the
military to the civil power is an
honored principle of democratic gov
eminent, and should remain so; in
deed, since war is but means of
achieving national ends. the civil
power ought always to predominant
in any well-organized state, demo-
cratic or not.
But just as soldiers, in general,
make poor statesmen and civil ad-
ministrators, because they are not
trained for the task, SO civilians
must realize their limitations for
the same reasonD in the military
field This is true both in the in
tellectual and the spiritual spheres.
A knowledge of strategy, tactics and
logistics does not flow naturally from
political and administrative expert
ence; nor can the military traditions
and the conceptions of military
honor which are the soul of armies
be replaced by political CATCH
phrases and party slogans. Unhappy
the nation whose leaders suppose
otherwise, or regard these traditions.
the conceptions as the anachronisms
of the age of chivalry; the bewildered
and starving Russian soldiers who
have perished so miserably and so
uselessly in the frozen wilderness OF
Northern Finland bear dumb wit
ness to the eternal truth that the
soldierly spirit is an essential in
gredient Of victory, now as ever in
the long and bloody history Of hu-
man wars.
.s, Copyright. 1910, BY
New York Tribune. Inc.
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WELL KNOWN

organizations where this course has
been conducted-
The Riggs National Bonk
Washington. D. c.
Advertising Club Of New York
New York City
Manufacturers 8 Bonkers Club
PhiIadeIpho, Pa.
Mercantile Trust Company
Boltimose, Nd.
This is his 6th season in Warrington.
WASHINGTON EXECUTIVES WHO
HAVE TAKEN THIS COURSE say
"This not only trains people to think their
feet and get out of their SHE'LL but it gues them
practical training in the psychology OF dealing wh
people,"
ROBERT H. DRISKILL, Attorney,
Woodward Building
"A tDo-f listed course that generates degree Of
selt-confdence and enthusiasm. practical train
ing for dealing with individuals ueu NTH
groups"
L. S. WEBSTER District MANAGER
Peoples Drug Stores, Inc
"This training in straight -tor,Dard thinking and
torceful expression has been most ualuabe to me-"
HARRY H. STEIDLE,
Bureau of Standards
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MAKE 1910 COUNT

who hos burning desire to move forword and to
make 1910 count for something in your life, this
evening course offers on opportunity to develop
your latent powers, brooden your interests enrich
your life and expand your influence.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19
Meet Success
In Campaign
Lutheran Welfure
Workers Busy

A better reception than they
were given last year 10 the way
field workers are reporting their
progress to n. y. Hageness. cam
paien director Of the current en-
rollment campaign of the Lutheran
Welfare society.
Field workers have not yet conn.,
pleted all Of their calls, accord
ing to Hageness. but they are en-
couraged by the reception they
are receiving. No report has been
made of the number OF new men,
bers.
Campaigners In the enrolment
are requested by Hageness to send
in by Monday night all cards for
persons they have already called
on. He has called = meeting Mon
day night. 7:3o o'clock. at the
Lutheran Welfare office, Of all
campaign ehairmen.
Scheduled to end Sunday. April
81, the campaign will continue for
almost another week. giving work.
ers time to complete all Of their
calls.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19
Teachers Branch
To Be ENLARGED

Plans for enlargement of the
Tacoma branch of the American
Federation of Teachers were in
progress Thursday as a result Of
an organization meeting of the
local group attended by two repre-
sentatives from Seattle.
Principal speaker at the meet
ing Tuesday evening In the Cen
trail school was Prof. Robert Igle-
hart OF the University of Wash
ington, Northwest regional vice
president. Also visiting were Miss
Pauline Thompson of the Seattle
teachers local and George Firth,
representing the education conf
mittee of the Tacoma Central
Labor council. Richard Elliott
presided over the meeting.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19
Same Officers
To Serve Again

GIG HARBOR-The Gig Harbor
high school PIT. A. has reelected
all its present officers, Mrs. NJ. L.
Carlson, president Mrs o. D.
Parkman, vice president; Mrs. J.
Wagner. secretary, and Mrs. r.
II. Berkheimer, treasurer.
At the annual meeting of the
Gig Harbor Baseball club the fol-
lowing officers were elected: Presi-
dent. Lee Thrash: directors, J. w.
Mckenzie for three year term, r.
c. Paulson for two year term. Nor
man Brous for one year term. Mort
Neylon was elected secretary and
Cal Russell, treasurer. It was de-
cided to raze the present grand
stand and erect larger one on the
first base line.
A supper and card party was
given on Tuesday evening to honor
the birthday of Rex Hartsook of
Wanna. Guests present were N.
Carl Nielsen. VIM. Radge, r. L.
Siegner and r. G. Overly.
The Glencove Community Hall
Assn. will meet at the home of
Mrs. Oscar Boquist on Saturday,
April 20, at s p. m. for n card
party.
Mr.. and Mrs. A. L. Johnson OF
Purdy have been called to Port
Angeles by the death there on Sun
day night of Mr.. Johnson's grand
son.
A Gig Harbor high school chorus
of IS voices under II. e. Maier will
attend the Northwest music con-
test to be held at Everett on sat
urday.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19
Pilot Is Chosen
Army Hero No. l

WASHINGTON - Secretary 81
War Harry II. wecdrink presented
the Cheney trophy TO First Lieut..
Harold Nicely. Lowry Field. Celo..
the srny's No. flying here for
1859.
Nicely vas cited Ter bravery
above ikt call ~ duty fnr stay-
ing with an army bomber. whose
motors had stopped during = dust
storm over Hin CITY. kss. last
Nov. -. and landing II because ne
thought one Of his three psssen-
gers was still In the plane.
Tive of his passengers had lesped
70 safety BY parachute. Normally
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19

FoRII. Italy TIE fifst men,
eer q the Muzsolsni family 10
enter ths church rs neen ordained
II Fora. re > tAs naes's re-
nhew. Father Pier crisolcxn. and
~ vas ordained = priest ~ Car
dlnal Nasalll Rceca.
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Neely would have Jumped. toe
nut - ID not SO ire third rsr.
s<ngsr jump. Believing re msn
still IN the plane. Ssely sssysd
At the controls Ter re Asx.raeas
landing Only then id ~ md
that the third passenger had
Jumped. but hls parachute I'D not
op<n and he vas killed. Neelyss
home i. Huntinkton. Tenn.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19
JOINS RESERVE

Cody c. Black. Route 5. Ia
coma. honorably discharged from
the u. s. army at FIT. Mcdowell
on April Il. has enlisted In the
regular army reserve. 1t was an
nounced Thursday.
New laid eggs, zoe. Cow But
ter Store. adv.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19
Tacoma Firm Gets
Contract in Pasco

Advance Plumbing Co. Taooma,
Thursday WAS given the $4,000
contract to install plumbing and
heating In the new Northern Pa
cific depot and freight warehouse
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19

at Paseo, Wash.
Baily Construction Co. Seattle,
general contractors, will start work
at once.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19

moks 70 her mlnd ri ~ picks
konnethsno - xhe run decide
o1nlnxf IT.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19
ENLIsTs IN NAVY

James D. Knowles, $3.50 SO. X
st, has enlisted for service In the
u. s. navy.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-04-19
Core Of the News
MILTON MAN NAMED

Kurt Messmer of Milton. Uni
versity of Washington student. has
been elected vice president of the
university's chapter of Gusrdes du
Rapiers. fencing honorary. He
will take office this month for the
coming year.
Choice cactus. Hinz, Florist.
adv.
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26
HOBSON IS BOUND
TO HIGHER COURT
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her and shot two bystanders in a
crowded store here Saturday night.
The blue-eyed dime store clerk,
testified for more than an hour
against the youth she said she had
wanted" as a friend, but not as
a lover, and told of numerous
threats she said he had made
against her life.
Judge Duncan c. Wilson ordered
Hobson held under $1,000 bond for
the September term of superior
court. The jurist also ordered that
the youth be given a mental ex-
animation at the State hospital be-
fore being released on bond.
Hobson, editor of the Carolina
Buccaneer, college magazine, ap-
peared in court with his father,
George Hobson, neatly dressed in
a grey suit and a blue tie. His
brother and a sister were also pre-
sent for the preliminary hearing.
The girl said that it was about
six weeks before the shooting that
Hobson first threatened her, after
she refused to see him. She ad.
mitted, she had 'dated'' him four
times since, and that she w a S
scared each time.
She said that Hobson has threat
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26
OBITUARIES

S. Lewis, Mark Hines, W. A. Whit
ney, E.. T. Hancock, G. w. Trask,
and o. H. Shoemaker.
Mrs. Holden was a native of
Wilmington and a member of the
Winter Park Baptist church.
She is survived by two daugh.
tiers, Mrs. Bessie Stanland, Of Win.
ter Park; Mrs. M. E. Graham. of
Jacksonville, Fla; one son, Ar
mold W. Holden, Of Norfolk, Va;
two sisters, Mrs. H. H. Husbands,
of Cherry Grove Beach, S. c., and
Mrs. W. H. Newell, Of Rocky
Mount.
Seven grandchildren: Alvah H.
Stanland, Alex B. Stanland, Mrs.
Il. ]. Bats, and Mrs. Robert I'm.
gran, Of Winter Park; M. E. Ora.
ham, Of Miami, Fla; Josephine
Graham and Hugh Graham, OF
Jacksonville. Fla: and six great
grandchildren.
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r B. H. O.

Funeral services for Mrs. B. H.
Scott, IS, who died at 1880 o'clock
Tuesday night at the home Of her
daughter, Mrs. c. j. Keen, of 1718
Orange street, after an illness
since December, 1899, were held
at $3.50 o'clock yesterday after
noon from the home of Mrs. Keen.
Elder Ransome Gurganus, Prim-
tive Baptist minister, assisted by
the Rev. c. D.. Barclift, pastor of
the Fifth Avenue Methodist church,
conducted the services. Burial fol-
lowed in the Oakdale cemetery.
Active pallbearers were: W. R.
Page, Harold Cleeve, A. F. Walton,
W. P. Roudabush, E. ]. Scott and
J. W. Lilies. Honorary pallbearers
were: E. S. Buck, E. J. Harrison,
Henry Horn, Lester Brown, J. E.
Walton, A. S. Rochell, H. w. Dixon,
Clyde Walton.
Mrs. Scott is survived by three
sons, I. J. Scott and M. G.. Scott, Of
Wilmington, J. W. Scott, Of Kinston;
three daughter, Mrs. Spicer King, of
Elm City, Mrs. o. B. Smith and Mrs.
c. J. Keen, Of Wilmington; Is grand
children, 80 great-grandchildren, and
three Observation-Disclosures.
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26
MARSHALL F. SELLERS

Funeral services for Marshall Fin.
ley Sellers, 66, of 1915 Perry avenue,
who died suddenly at 12:45 O'Clock
Wednesday afternoon at Whining
ton beach, will be held at 10 O'Clock
this morning from the chapel Of
Andrews mortuary.
The Rev. George Saunders will
conduct the services. Burial will
follow in Bellevue cemetery.
Active pallbearers will be-: e. C.
Hudson, Joseph Barbiere, r. H.
King, r. H. Williams, E. B. johnson,
and H. A. King.
Honorary ~pallbearers will be: A.
Il. Williams, R.. H. Vann, J. P. Nall,
R.. w. Farmer, e. B. Lewis, ]. B.
Madison, and James H. Hall.
He was a retired Atlantic Coast
Line railroad foreman.
He is survived by his wife, Mrs.
Catherine B. Sellers; four sons, r.
L., W. D., G. F., and j. r. Sellers,
of Wilmington; three sisters, Mrs
Fred Hicks, of Savannah, Ca; Mrs
John McInnis and Mrs. E. Apple.
white, of Wilmington; two daugh.
tiers, Mrs. T. S. Simmons, of Irwin,
Tenn, and Mrs. W. H. Howell, OF
New Bern; two brothers, B. L. and
Charlie H. Sellers, of Savannah, Ga.
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26
ROBERT w. WEEKS

Funeral services for Robert W.
Captain Bob Weeks, 66, widely
known automobile salesman, who
died Wednesday morning in a local
hospital after a long illness, were
held at 4:30 o'clock yesterday af-
ternoon from st. Mary's Catholic
church.
Father Cornelius Murphy, pastor
OF the church, conducted the serv-
ices. Interment was in Oakdale
cemetery.
Active pallbearers were: Rich
ard Phelps, Tommy Callahan,
Bruce Roberts, G. P. McKeithan,
John Carter and Hugh Sweeney.
Honorary: o. H. Shoemaker, W.
R. Dosher, w. q. Macmillan, K. H.
Holland, L. A. Raney, Captain Tom
Sellers, c. E. Cause, G.. M. Gregg,
F. M. McKoy, Fred Poisson, DR..
J. B. Cranmer, E. S. Piver, Aaron
Goldberg, DR.. R. B. Hare, DR.. Rob-
ert M. Fales, T. A. Groom, @. B.
Satchwell, and S. M. King and
Paul Baschon.
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26
MRS. EMMA A

Mrs. Emma Evans, 66, of Free
land, died at her home there YES
terday morning at 1880 o'clock aft
er a lingering illness.
Survivors are: her husband. G..
W. Evans, of Freeland; one son,
". ID. Evans, of Ash; one daugh-
ter, Mrs. Matte Ross, of Free
land, four brothers, Frank and e.
u. Edwards, of Bolton, H. M. Ed
wards, of Leland, and R. w. Ed
wards; three sister, Mrs. Lundie
Cox and Mrs. Edith Formy.Duval.
OF Freeland, and Mrs. J. w. STAN
ley, of Ash.
Funeral services will be held this
morning at 10 o'clock from h e
New Britain Baptist church, to be
conducted by the Rev. z. G. Ray.
1nterment will be in New Life
cemetery.
Active pallbearers will be: Bry-
ant Babson, Gardner King, Lloyd
King, Jack King, Jim King aud
Bart Woodward.
Honorary: Kelly Little, Wesley
Evans, j. L. Babson and B. G..
Simmons. 2
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26
r PENNY SMITH

Brief services for Mrs. Penny
Smith, 81, who died Tuesday night
at the home of her daughter, Mrs.
C. M. Priest, 10 South Eighth
street, were held at 2 o'clock yes
terday afternoon from the chapel
of Andrews mortuary, with the
Rev. Alexander Miller and DR.. A.
j. Barton officiating.
The funeral was held at Mt.
Zion Baptist church near Whiteville
at 4 p. m. Interment was in the
church cemetery.
Pallbearers were B. w. Durham,
J. M. Davis, Cecil Robbins, Wade
Syher, Leslie Page and c. W. Boy.
cite.
Mrs. Smith is survived by four
daughters, Mrs. A. B. Blake and
Mrs. Priest, of Wilmington, Mrs.
C. e. Wendlinger, Of Spartanburg.
S. C., and Mrs. J. H. Early. Of Elk
ton, Va; three sons, James A. Smith,
of Pittsburgh, Pa, Kelly Smith, of
Greenville, N. c., and B. D. Smith,
of Detroit. Michigan.
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26

For the past several years he had
lived in Fayetteville. He retired
from the government service about
a year ago. Taken i'll seven weeks
ago, he had been in the Columbia
hospital for two weeks.
He was the son of the late Judge
John A. Gilmer and Mrs. Sallie Lind
say Gilmer, and a grandson of Judge
Jesse A. Gilmer, of Greensboro. He
married Miss Eliza Williams, Of
Fayetteville, who survives him. The
only other survivors are two nieces.
Mr.. Gilmer was a graduate OF h
University of. North Carolina and
completed the law course there also.
He was a veteran of the Spanish.
American war.
The body will be brought here to-
morrow. Funeral arrangements had
not been made tonight.
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26
BRITAIN DECIDES
TO POUR SUMS IN
PLANE INDUSTRY
Continued From Page One)

products for which export licens-
es were required, it had been dis
closed that two shipments of oil to
Spain, totalling about 200, 900 bar
rels, had been held up. No reason
was given, but it was understood
that officials believed the oil was
destined for Germany and Italy.
In recent months, Japan h a S
been the largest foreign buyer of
American scrap iron and other
metals used for armament. Today's
order will not shut off such pur-
chases, but enables the govern
ment to keep a finger on them and
to stop them whenever it deems it
desirable. 3
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26
JAMES HOLMES

James Holmes, SO. oldest citizen of
the Shallotte community, died at the
home of his son, w. r. Holmes, at
Shallotte, yesterday afternoon after
an illness of three days.
Funeral services will be held from
the Methodist church, of which he
was a member, this afternoon at 4
o'clock, with the Rev. c. N. Phillips,
pastor of the church, officiating.
Burial will follow in the church ceme-
terry.
Active pallbearers will be: w. L.
Swain, j. w. Russ, Bruce Halves,
w. T. White, j. A. Russ and H. L..
'Mintz. Honorary p~allbearers will be:
A. M. Woodland, G. T. Rourk, r. D.
White, M. L. White, H. L. Stanley.
L. C. Trip, G. F. Cooley, F. T. Glenn.
mons, c. A. Russ, E. Holden, Jr., H.
B. Bennett, D. c. Andrews and Capt.
A. A. Milliken.
Mr.. Holmes was born May IL, 1852,
near Council, the son of the late
George W. and Sallie Nye Holmes.
He came to Shallotte yer 60 years
ago and engaged in the mercantile
business, which he followed for q
number of years. He was a member
Of the Shallotte Camp Methodist
church and for over 40 years was
superintendent of the Sunday school.
Surviving are n son, W. r.
Holmes, postmaster of Shallotte; n
daughter, Mrs. M. F. Skipper, of Will
mington; two brothers, A. G.. Holmes,
of Council, and the Rev. Parker
grandchildren.
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26
SHORTAGES
FELT IN EUROPE
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ing a food blockade upon Germany
now reduced to calling through her
newspapers for Germany to give
her food.
Five or six million refugees from
Northern France and Belgium
have crowded into Southern France
repeatedly putting a distresstul
burden upon the country.
France. never self sustaining,
now is caught in the blockade OF
her former British ally.
The censored French press said
the fate of France for months"
depends upon German leniency in
allowing food supplies to C m e
from occupied France.
Reports from Basel, Switzerland,
indicated Northern France is not
much better off.
Even French farmers were re-
ported living off German relief,
others going to the Swiss frontier
to beg for food. 4
The Wilmington morning star., 1940-07-26

ened her at a party on one occa-
sion and later apologized and said
that he had meant to kill himself.
II tried to get my daddy's gun
to kill you and me; it's the only
way OUT, she quoted him as say
ing.
On the night of the shooting, she
testified, Hobson came into h e
store where she worked and start.
ed a conversation with her. She
said he reached into his pocket
and pulled out a pistol, that she
grabbed the gun, and the bullets
went wild, inaicting flesh wounds
on two customers. 4