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The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22

republican majority floor leader of the
Montana house of representatives
where he served two term; and Mon.
tana state administrator of relief in
1885.
Born in Ohio in 1882, Ruffcorn was
graduated from the University of Chi
cago and from Yale university law
school, He served as deputy and act
ing county attorney for Valley county,
and as legal advisor to the senate for
the 25th session. He has been en-
gagged in farming and stock raising
for over 20 years and formerly oper-
ated private elevator. Ruffcorn is
married and has two daughters, both
of whom attended Montana State uni
versity
The slogan to be printed after his
name on the primary ballot is RE
duce taxes. Encourage business. In
crease employment. Aid needy. Avoid
foreign wars"
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22
Victims Of

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wash the gang, but this attempt was
defeated by our pressure and publicity.
The jury heard the defendants give
vivid description of the attack. On
the night of August II the migrants
were awakened by shouts, shots ana
bricks thrown through the window OF
their shack.
They were ordered to strip, their
hands were fastened behind their
backs and they were beaten with a
rubber hose. The vigilantes then TOOK
two of the negroes out in the country
noured a bucket of white paint over
them and told them to get out OF TINS
state and stay out"
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22
YOUNG LIVINGSTON is
HONORED AT u. OF MINI.

Robert F. Livingston, son OF Mr..
and Mrs. Frank H. Livingston of Wolf
Point, Mont, won the University of
Minnesota Student Branch of the In
stitute of Aeronautical Sciences Prize.
This was awarded to the sopho-
more in aeronautical engineering who
has maintained the highest scholastic
average during his first five quarters
of residence at the University of Min
nesota.
Robert was valedictorian Of the 1888
Wolf Point high school class.
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22
McNUTT NO FRIEND OF
LABOR, SAYS INDIANA CLIO

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS claim
made at a Detroit press conference
by Paul McNutt, possible democratic
presidential candidate, that he had the
support of organized labor brought
immediate denial from Sec. John Bar
tee of the Indiana Industrial Union
Council
"You can say that we stand 1907
behind John L. Lewis's statement or
McNutt at the United Mine Workers
convention" Bartee said. "At thai
time Lewis compared McNutt to an
cient kings who sent out soldiers tc
protect strikebreakers.
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22
PRICE LEVELS RISE

WASHINGTON.-(FP)-The gener-
al level of farm commodity prices
rose slightly during the month ended
April Is, the agricultural marketing
service reported. At $3.50 of the 1910
IA price level, the all-commodity price
index was one point higher than on
March Is and nine points higher than
a year earlier.
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22
WILL, NOT SEND A. E. F.

| NEW neutrality-suspicious. thal
the United States has fought its las.
war lover there" Sen. James M. Mead
ID. N. " said that the country
would not send an expeditionary force
abroad this time. The senator SPOKE
at a. dinner in his honor given May
4 by the Railway Mail Service EN-
ployes (unaffiliated).
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22

cers) 35,579.
Personnel of the navy and marine
corps 179,441.
In addition, 2,51S,000 young men in
the CCC have received camp, although
not military, training.
This means that it will take rather
good-sized guy to come over here and
walk all over us. We're far from
being a lettering old man.
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22
RUFFC0RN IS
REP. CANDIDATE
FOR CONGRESS

William NJ Ruffcorn of Glasgow,
state senator from Valley county for
eight years, filed at the office of the
secretary of state for the republican
nomination for congressman, second
Montana district, Ruffcorn was former
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22
Patents for

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be much smaller. These all begin
to add up to something now. Sort of
makes a fellow feel like going to the
bank to see if his credit is good for a
loan to handle the purchase of this,
time and labor saving, rotary plow.
Which one of the big implement
companies make and sell this new de-
vice?
NONE Well, so much the better
since they have gouged enough out of
us already. This is good news, we
can throw off that feeling we had
that we were going to be stuck.
Where can a fellow get one of these
new rotary plows?
YOU CAN'T.
What the
1t is reported by the inventor and
demonstrators of this rotary pillow that
those self same big implement COM
panies have brought pressure to bear
with the banks and other sources of
investment capital, to prevent the
mass production of. this new rotary
plow.
WHY? 1t would replace harrows
and all other soil tillage implements.
What big business that would spoil.
Here is another concrete example of
the interference of our Price System
controls with the use of modern sci
ence and technology to the great ben
eft of hundreds of thousands of farm
ers and the public generally in less
cost of production and reduced prices.
The ordinary farmer might actually
see a way to help make ends meet If
he could take advantage of such tech
biological improvements. Of course
the additional abundance of crop pro-
duction would reduce prices to the
consumer and would generally i'm
prove conditions from some angles
even if it would displace some farm
laborers.
archaeological advance is the order
of the day and will come; but big
business wants it's pound of flesh be-
fore they allow any advance. And so
our Price System controls block the
way as long as possible.
It would be interesting indeed to
know just how many inventions have
been suppressed, in one way or an
other, because they would hurt some
business or other. 1t is reported on
good authority that our U. S. patent
office holds the key to new life of
abundant ABUNDANCE for us all if
the hidden patents could be utilized.
But MOI No! screams the Price Sys-
tenn; it might hurt business by putting
some generally used product in the
discard.
NJ ,our iob &c ., citizen-renister
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22
How Well Prepared Are We?

1t is quite natural that the army
and navy crowds, whose watchwords
when it comes to appropriation are
1.-THE sky's the limit" want to give
the impression that we have NO
trained men nor military equipment
with which to defend this nation, that
we are helpless if anybody decides
to pick on us.
Others, however, want to know what
kind Of preparedness they mean: Is
it preparedness to cross three thou,
sand miles of ocean and engage a
first-rate power on a foreign continent,
or is it preparedness to protect this
country in case of foreign invasion
If the former, there is merit to the
contention that our military person.
mel and equipment isn't so formidable.
If the latter, the following information
given to the senate by Senator Lun-
deem, Minnesota - supplied from fig
ures furnished him by the various
military services-is interesting:
AS of January 81, 1910
Personnel of the regular army and
national guard 624,000.
Personnel of the R. o. T. G. 186,750.
Personnel of the C. M. T. c. (offi-
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CONTINUED From Page One)
the unemployed and to feed the hun
cry that these cries are raised!
Instead of asking for something
over a billion dollars in additional
military appropriations, the President
last week could as well have asked
for two billion, three billion, or even
five or ten billion, and have received
it without a squawk. And if he calls
the congress back into special SEES
sion for appropriation of additional
billions of dollars, they will be voted;
if he calls them back into special
session to let down cash bars so that
the huge American industrial machine
can be placed at the disposal of the
Allies, he'll get that too. Not a single
person familiar with the situation
not a single Washington newspaper
correspondent-will dispute that point
1t is generally agreed, both by pro-
ponents and opponents alike, that the
President is speaking the mind of the
American people not only on the ques-
talking to Hitler in the only language
the nazi dictator understands. 1t is
felt that had Chamberlain and Dala-
der approached Hitler with the
clenched fist-with constructing &c.
900 warplanes-rather than with ap-
peasement, the soils of France, Bel
GUM and Holland today would not be
drenched in human blood.
It's Third Term by Default
Republican on Capitol Hill are now
looking very gloomily toward the No
vember elections. Off the record, their
spokesman admit that the President
today has the support of the American
people to a much greater degree than
ever before And they readily admit
that foreign developments have pre-
pared a situation in which a third
term for Roosevelt is inevitable. He
will remain in the White House for
the next four years. That is consid-
cred what is known as a "cinch" bet.
Domestic issues don't count for very
much any more They are going
through the motions on domestic is
sues in congress-but they are doing
it lifelessly. It's like calling thine
out" in a football game. In sense,
liberals are a little bit relieved on
that score since it was merely mat
ter of the extent that reactionaries
would emasculate existing social legis-
lation. AS one remarked, "It's an i'll
wind that blows nobody any good"
The opinion prevails that the Po-
liticaI Show of 1910 is about over.
For all practical purposes, they may
as we'll give it to Roosevelt by ac-
clamation.
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22

votes-not good wishes-eIects can
didates.
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22

Do your job as citizen-register
and vote.
The people's voice. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1939-1969, 1940-05-22
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The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
Examinations Being Held
For First Grade Students

Examinations for pupils who
will enter lB classes for the first
time in September got under way
Tuesday and will continue in
various schools throughout the
city until May 10, IL was an
nounced by Supt. Howard r.
Goold.
Mental and physical readiness
tests were conducted Tuesday
morning at Arlington school.
Examinations will be held In the
following grade schools on dates
set forth
McCarver, Wednesday. $50 a
m; May 2, Mckinley, $40 a. m
and l p. m: Lowell. May }, $50
a. m; May 3. Point Defiance.
p. m: May 8. Edison, $40 p. m.
p. m, May Z. sherman. $50 a
m, l p. m; May s, Northeast
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
BY WILLIAM l.. WHITE

PARIS Thy Wlre,ess) = What
could the Colorado and Wyoming
national guard do II the Germans
were able to distribute $4,000 men
along the eastern slope of the
r ckies. occupying Cheyenne.
Boulder. Denver. Colorado Springs
and Pueblo?
Well, Norway can also do some
thing, but not much. and don't
expect any more. It's capital city
of Oslo, with the mountains ever
in the background. and crowded
ski trains running out TO them
every weekend, Is strikingly like
Denver.
The Norwegians are rugged and
hearty like our Rocky Mountain
people. but. also like them, they
are not military. Physically they
are beautiful specimens. they have
courage, they will die bravely
enough. but the purpose of any
army is not to get Itself killed
but to strike quickly at its obJee-
tives with the loss Of as few mer
as possible. This requires skill and
training in the highly technical
business of modern war. and you
need only one glance at tho Nor
wegian army 10 know that thos'
big oyergrown amiable kids lackes
the training.
Like National Guard
The Norwegian army Is organ
lied along the lines OF the Ameri
can national guard. Most Of 10
soldiers have had only few week.
at summer camps. and their equip
ment is IN even worse shape.
Norwegians paid little attention
TO their army because they be
lieved that 20 long as the British
navy was intact. IL would be mad
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
Local Pastor
Will Attend
Rev. Peterson
To Spokone

Ths Rev. Carl " retsFeca.
% FsFes coscasnt church n ra-
coma. lsfs 1sts~fAy for anckaas
10 participate n Ne Northwest
district eOasentlaa e Covenant
churches which eonvenes n thst
city "Wednesday. others fEpm sh<
lecsl cnuFvh Ia sstend the canven-
ton srs ssr ard Mrs. n y. os@un
Mrs. u u Inhn~oa Mx Enes
nsrgstFom. Mss Carl Grant. J
Alfred JoAnsan ard Andrew Peter
.on.
Featured in this years gather
lng stli ~ me celshFatiun n ths
sosh anniversary ~ the North
Pacific Missionary conferences. -
which IN. Peterson IL president
me celebration wtsl continue
through Sunday. Frlday nlsht the
president n The denomination. ~
T. W. Andersen a. cfseAxn m.
win speak On the subject Meet.
ting God an the Ffuntisr."
The conference viii draw dele
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
Charges Filed
Against Simon

A superior court charge of
grand larceny was filed against
Joe Simon, 46-year-old Tacoma
junk dealer, Monday afternoon,
accusing him of buying a ton or
more of assorted railroad property
stolen by group of boys.
Simon was booked April is on a
justice court warrant but was re-
leased on his personal recog-
nizance.
The new stolen property charge
was based upon confessions of
three youths held in the county
Jail as material witnesses.
Deputy Prosecutor Bill Goodwin
charged Simon with intent to de-
prive and defraud the owner .
did buy 81 brake shoes, 80 angle
bars, rs tie plates, one railroad
car spring and three hand brake
wheels, all property of the North
ern Pacific railroad. knowing at
the time it was stolen ="
Held in Jail as witnesses for the
past two weeks in connection with
the case are James Robinson, 10
year-old farmer, of Route 1 Box
322. Sumner; Grover SOFTEN, II,
19071s Tacoma ave, and James
Perryman, Is, 1e09ia Tacoma ave.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
City Checks
On Proposals

Under Amusement Tuesday IN
their respective departments we're
two groups II lids opened ~ The
hoard of contracts and awards
Monday afternoon.
For paving with cement ccr-
crete the track ARIA in Mckinley
ave. from NJ. Goth Ia ~. ssa sta.
works department engineers are
checking the following Valley
Construction Co, sia,ise 10; cen-
trail Construction Co. tia.Eii.bos
/. coluccio, si4.2si %. al n se-
attic. raine-Gallucci. Inc, tis.-
spT -: and Albert Andersen. tis..
sTi.o0. both Of TAonma.
After opening ssx bids. the
board concluded the pfies u .
carload of copper wire In assorted
slsss delivered Al Tacoma i - na7.
All bids were Identical except AZ
to delivery date. Bidders were
Love Electro Co. Hume Electric
Co, Hunt a Mottet Co.. General
Electric supply Corp. wsstinE-
house Electric supply Co. and
Craybar Electric Co. Specified
lions called for delivery of 10000
pounds n No, 7(os 10000 pounds
Of No. 4: and 10000 pounds d
No. q,
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
Two More Recitols
Will Be Presented

This week promises two more
recitsIs in the dramatic art de.
partment Of the College Of Puget
Sound. Miss Martha Pearl Jones
dramatic art instructor. announces
The first al Sis p. m. Tuesday in
Jones hall auditorium will present
Annabel Miller, Mildred Mckenzie
Richard Dews and Wilbur Bats.
niger In junior recital There viii
be one-act play, The Crin.
coached by Neil Richardson. the
cast consisting Of the four recital
participants.
On Thursday al Sis ?. N. there
viii be senior recital presenting
Ruth JensOn. Irma Jueling and
Deane Hill This performance
also includes a One-act play. Rus
sian Salad directed b. Wilbur
Bsisinger. Those taking part viii
he Irrna Jusling, David Davies.
Jack Mcclure. James Acciymont.
Wyona Diemsr and Dorothy Pad
field
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
Elect Tacoma
Man as Head
Lurnb President
OF Truckers

SPOKANE - TWO hundred and
fifty delegates to the Pacific
Northwest Truckers convention
turned homewsrd today after elect
ing L L. Lamb of the Pacific High
way Transport. Tacoma, president.
The delegates concluded their
SESSIONS with a resolution con-
demning government restrictions
on trucking. and declaring that
millions of jobs would be made
available II such restrictions were
lifted.
Elected first vice president was
II. Fl. Mallory of the Interstate
Freight Lines at Seattle; second
vice president, Williams Edwards
of the Inland Motor Freight, Spo-
kane. and third vice president,
Robert B. Lytei of the Dependable
Tank Transport, Inc. Seattle.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
Take a Look at Europe

ness for the Germans 10 attempt
an invasion of Norway.
l think the next few months
will prove that this German inva-
sion Is Just as mad as the Nor
wegians thought such a plan would
be. only. AZ II turns out. Il win be
the Norwegians who viii pay for
the German madness.
Sentiment In Norway was
more strongly pro-Ails than
In any Of the other scandi-
navIan countries. During my
week In Oslo the only excep-
tions 10 this general rule
discovered were In the Nor
wegian army and navy.
II Il only natural that Norway's
small corps Of professional mill
tary men should be German
trained. Probably II follows that
naturally they would have a great
respect for Germany's military
power
don't think there were
many Qulslings In the Nor
weglan army or navy. but I
am sure that Oslo would not
have been occupied BY the
Germans without the firing Of
q shot ", during tboss few be-
wiideriDg no rs, Norway's
Germsn-trained officers had
not been completely oserawed
at the prospect Of opposing
anything . German army had
vet out 10 do.
They were wide-eyed with awe
at German might when they talked
70 me. Now that they have recos-
cred from this shock. those tina,
have escaped from the German
occupied areas are probably fight
ing well and loyalty. and after
those big rangy Norwegian KIDD
have been abot over and bombed
for a month. they will make
soldiers as tough and self-rellani
A. any In Europe.
Copyright. Iss0l
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
Bad Breath May
Be Caused By
False Teeth

Tfss World prO9reeaes elseoFs
cries make history SOS. thankt -
Dr. l. " shef4in 4 sf8 kuDHn aus
fhogisg on oral hFgisIs false teeth
ana deuts. plates can b. fnaoe -
zilSten aitn purity aud ifnsaaf ia =
CLEANLINESS with iukt . cAiiF iosmln-
utk bath Wltb amazing stFfA- Keen.
It's AL ~ FAsy i1st get a sD-eFnt
bottle q st<Fs- Kieen--crop Dipch
Ii = half glass ~ iuksuarn sateT--
iet your GENITAL plate ataS in tala zlAAs
10 minutes or oFefn.Eht - you
choose TAKE a out. finse under fnc
cold Nater tslscst no brushing -
NEEDED
Do this daiig an6 you've ggt a pate
free from slimf mUfin and stsint--
plate sparkling with beauty and
a.ittffgns WITH ozfitf No nlofs dfl.s-
l1oklnE injury dismal fsise teeth
Tor yoig--l ssts for seeks 80 cents
acf
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01

Gordon Poyner. ~ .yesr.ald
Rochester drug clerk. who thought
he was headed for Olympia WHEN
Stats patroiman ]. E. Mckinney
arrested him Sunday night At Fife
corner headed north, pleaded
guilty before Justice Clarence &C.
Layton Monday afternoon 10 =
charge Of driving while under the
influence Of liquor Ths youth was
fined 500 and costs and deprived
OF his license for q year.
Ing brolled crab Jahn y. O'Gen.
ner displaying new business card,
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01

nerps What Would they Wnnt a.
u.-
Aeraa. the ~or,a ths parliament
mai roverns 4 ono uno ns,teh snuis
ans 10 ssmes thar manx natives
has t.s~. adjourned A IN Hague
Adjourned after dsfe.tsnx a rro-
posai Ia nasld q saauarsr Il war.
sh.n. Tor re Aefsns. At m Eat
Indie.
fAe ssrc~s ef sew world
iscs<--sctive sHd isud v
tndtA. " China. ev<a - ne
fhiiipFsne>--hss ieft eas .
ripple On The surface 81 srs"-
sssii NATIVE NE. dr%rtte ssak
hours q isssor that a. q en-
rirh the eurghes< 81 Am>sef-
dam and the smart set 81 Net
trrdsm.
IL u hard 10 become amused
ever distractions Under tForic
sky.
NJ Tor an hour On the slopes a
tsan misty Iansnsn mo"htsin'
LOOK out over the finoded rire pad
vaes 80. NC nsaSs" s'oee Nns.e
e'e nsons'ss nssee. a'" ms
ssHks N"W us,s.s ta'
$500 es",nk ~ '"s ssna
. ,..,, :. .aa ~ - ss.
"ss'e ~ -" oss
$3.50 $3.50 'ne a'sFs ."sa -
ss''ses IN, ~ sas a
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The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01

rates fr~su ws<hla<lon. Monsana.
fd=he. oF<kon end HFi<le6 <ptan-
~. r. m<<zIaxs ~ e<n<<< n
FIRST coven&nt ehu<<4 q 80
ksn<. Tne ~ : } re@r<sn =
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
M ain Street
Goings. comin0s aud Do,nos
OF Tacomnns as The Re-
porter Found Them.


Bobbie Garretson chatting with
friends at lunch counter Doroths
Pugh talking about new home At
American Lake--Dcrcthy Dean In
quiring about much-promlscd city
water service In Northeast Taco.
ma vcrn Kent and Jack OBrien
strolling down Pacific ave. Ivan
Talbot prescribing for bis son, Lee
David Raymore all set for base
bali game-Peter Adler and others
In Tacoma branch Of family an
tertaining brother II. J. Adler OF
Yaklma--Harry n. Johnston car
rying lawbooks like stovswood
from Judge ". ID. Hodges court
room Creighton Flynn explaining
complicated problem Owen
Hughes and leo Mrnssick discuss
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-05-01
By Sax Bradford


-Four hundred years ago.
avaricious Portuguese eyes
looked over the high poop OF
a man-o-war and were blind
ed by the emerald green
Spice islands = thousands of
them lying exotic. fabulous
sparkling across the equator.
Beyond the deep blue of In
dian waters. beyond the white
curl Of the coral-beaten surf
was empire.
More ships came down the
horizon. and more Portuguese
came ashore TO revel In the glory
Of hibiscus and Transplant and
ginger.
Back to Europe they came.
babbling OF the wealth Of the
Indies. bringing hack silks and
indigo and cloves and cinnamon
and pepper. bringing back pearls
and diamonds.
From Portugal, Dutch ships
freighted the unbelievable riches
to Amsterdam, where stolid Hol-
land merchants cut the stones,
trimmed the silks, packed the
spices and sold them from Moscow
to Dublin.
Then the Portuguese were
swallowed In European power
politics, and enterprising
Dutch merchantmen set sail
sfor the indies. seixing the
Malay coast, the cannibai
islands, the Javanese rice
fields--driving out the ma
laria-ridden Portuguese gar
risons. setting up q method
ical. comprehensive admins
tration that has made the
Netherlands East Indies the
model Of all European coloni-
zation In fropic lands.
World markets grew. Gradually
tin and rubber replaced precious
stones. Steamships replaced cara
wells Half-castes replaced blond
Dutch and graceful Javsnese.
Dutch science beat malaria.
Dutch enterprise beat the siren
lure of lotus-land. Dutch arms
beat the head-hunters. Dutch
bookkeeping beat financial dry
rot. Dutch organization forever
replaced the easy, despotic rule
of the rajahs.
Time passes.
Monday, April Is. 1910.
One crisp sentence pro-
nounced by a Japanese for
eign minister:
THE Japanese government
cannot but be deeply affected
by any development accom-
Panying an aggrayation of the
war In Europe that might
affect the status quo of the
Netherlands Indies"
Three thousand miles north of
Java is Japan, dominant military
power in the Orient-Japan, ex-
tending her territories southwark
year by year until at last she has
come within striking distance of
the rich prize of the tropics.
Six months ago I was in Ma
CAESAR. Menado, Den Pasar. Seer
rabaja, Batavia. Belawan. I cross
ed 1000 miles of Dutch Indian ter
ritory, humid, bright incensed
miles redolent of luxurious life.
Natives were happy or discomfort,
according to their education and
the state of the weather and the
rice harvest. Dutch and half
Dutch colonial officials were in
terested but undisturbed by ru-
mors of war outside"
Not Interested"
Japan attack the East Indies7
How ridiculous! They have their
hands full in China. Anyway, what
would they be doing way down