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Henderson daily dispatch. (Henderson, N.C.) 1914-1995, 1940-11-02

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merly occupied by Acme SOFA
Shop. Fully equipped with Soca
Fountain. booths and kitchen
equipment for operating soda
shop. W. c. Gates. Agent Tor
Owner. 2J-a.-1
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Bridges Calls"
His Opponents

SAN FRAN O-Harry
Bridges today told members of
International Longshoremen's and
Warrhousemen's (CTO) union that
if they no longer wanted him as
their president he could be recalled
by petition.
Bridges had criticized President
Roosevelt in a recent address and
the powerful Seattle local of the
ILWU. at special meeting yes
terday, asked him to resign. The
union leader said his resignation
had been requested because he had
seen FL ito inform members of the
clio of the extent President Roose-
welt and the New Deal sdministra-
ton had betrayed labor"
If they wanted him removed, he
said. Is per cent OF the member
ship in good standing" had only
10 sign a petition.
II have given no endorsement TO
Wendell l.. Willkie," he said II
have stood, and stand now, behind
John L. Lewis ."
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Carl B. Anderson
Dies in Portland

Carl B. Anderson. 40, OF Ri. 1,
Box SOL. Tacoma. died Sunday in
Portland hospital.
A veteran, Anderson WAS a
member OF Wild West post No. 81,
V. F. W. He was private in
Company NJ, 49th infantry. dur
ing the war. Anderson had been
employed by the St. Paul & Ia
coma Lumber Co. the last nine
years He was born in Nallby,
Sweden. and had lived in Tacoma
81 years.
He WAS affiliated with the I. o.
o. r. and the Swedish Order of
Vasa. both OF Leadville. Colo. and
the local Swedish Lutheran church.
Surviving are his wife. Judith;
son, Ture; a daughter, Mrs.
Gerda Carlson OF Tacoma. and
three brothers, Frank. Andrew and
Axel OF Sweden. Buckley-king
will announce the funeral.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Art Educators
Learn Of Plans

Art educators Of the community
met with Robert Drummond Of the
College of Puget Sound in the col
lege galleries Monday afternoon to
learn about local plans for Ma
tional Art week. Nov. 25-Dec. /.
Plans were made to arrange for
monthly meetings the first Monday
Of each month to aid teachers in
coordinating their work and keep
Ing in touch with other workers
in the field in the city. At the
meeting II was planned TO circu-
late among the schools the large
framed reproductions OF paintings
given to the college for educational
purposes by the Carnegie Founda-
ton, and teachers made arrange
ments for monthly exhibitions In
their classrooms. II was also plan
ned TO have students who are art
majors at the college give talks
and discussions on various phases
of art to the class groups.
Among those attending the first
meeting were the following teach
ers: Mrs. Bertha Bailey. Mrs. vir-
ginia Hennig, Mrs. Olive Hall. Miss
Prudential Gowell. Miss Crissie
Cameron. Miss Marie Baarslag,
Miss Edna Bowman, Miss wini-
fred Wadsworth. Miss Mary Ann
Marble, Miss Jean Small. Alfred
Banner, Steven Fuller, and Miss
Lorraine Pike.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Death Takes
VIM. A. Gaines
Former King Co.
Official Posses

William A. Gaines. 50. OF 7is
e1st ave. No. Seattle. died Tues
day IN American Lake Veterans
hospital.
A cashier OF the Metropolitan
bank In Seattle, Gaines was for
mer treasurer and commissioner
Of King county and also a member
Of the city council in Seattle.
During the war he served as chief
registration clerk in Seattle.
He became treasurer i'm
,nediately following the war. and
was elected commissioner in 1924.
A native OF Massachusetts.
Gaines came TO Seattle from the
east IN zoos. He was employed
by the Metropolitan bank shortly
after his arrival He also had
banking experience in the east
before coming west.
Surviving are two daughters.
Misses Mary and Gloria Of the
home, and two sisters, Mrs. Alice
Brennan and Mary of Boston.
Mass.
Buckley-King win announce the
funeral.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
People in
The News

j. Richard (DiXle) Davis. one
time lawyer for the New York
numbers racket chieftain. Dutch
Schultz, Is making a new start at
Palm Springs, Cal. as operator OF
n sandwich and vegetable juice
stand. At his side is his flaming
haired wife. the former Hope Dare.
once known as the most beautiful
girl in the Follles. 81 hoped I was
no longer news" Davis said 81 am
broke. need to work, and. since
! am disbarred as a lawyer. / have
to work with my hands. Now, all !
want is TO be left alone. Hope and
want n chance TO live"
Triplets were born at New York
last night to Mrs. Carl Cuttita. and
today the father announced these
names would he given his two new
daughters and son Mendy, Lou
ise. Willlsie.
Sterling Holloway. bushy-haired
movie comeulhn, Is IN hollywood
hospital with broken leg suffered
when he was kicked by horse
lila Rhodes, blond motion picture
actress. was awarded divorce and
$500 month alimony from Arthur
:. Lyons, theatrical agent. The
actress testified Lyons, whom she
married in 1888, insisted she give
up her career. -.
Ann Morriss, young motion pic
ture actress, and Edwin l.. Marin.
actor. announced at Hollywood
they will be married at one OF
southern CALIFORNIA; missions as
soon as Marins current film as
signment is finished.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Jail Soldier
After Crash
Accident Involves
Truck. Two Autos

Jailed for drunken driving. an
army truck driver vas he'd BY 20
lice Tuesday.
Sgt. James Crinkshaw. attached
to the 116th infantry Of the 41st
division at Camp Murray. was ar
rested Monday evening after his
army truck crashed into another
automobile at So. saith and South
Tacoma way, causing the latter 10
carom into a third car.
The other cars involved were
driven by Everett Costello. 740s
So. Pine st. and Fred c. Osmers.
OF the Tacoma Country club.
Most extensive damaged from
the three-wsy collision was sui
fered by Crnkshaw. whose cut
tongue required surgeons stitch.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Art Week Plans
Completed
Committee Tells
Procedure

Details Of the arrangements for
Tseomss participation in National
Art week. beginning Nov. Is. were
announced Tuesday a. the office
Of Melvin o. Kohler. professor Of
art at the College OF Puget Sound
and chairman OF the Tacoma COM
mittee.
Quarters for the exhibits Of ar
lists in Tacoma and vicinity have
been obtained in the Washington
building The exhibit viii open
Monday morning, Nov. IS and con-
tinue through the week. Artists
and craftsmen IN the field of fine
arts. and the crafts will be eligible
70 participate. There will be divi-
sions for oil painting. water color.
fine prints. photography. sculpture.
handicrsft Of distinctive design
and craftsmanship The latter in
cludes printed and woven textiles.
pottery silver and other metal
work; furniture, woodwork and
plastics.
All work must be original. Final
authority on eligibility is the exhi-
bition committee.
Further information on each di-
vision may be obtained from the
following: crafts. Robert Hager
Central school. BR 22s3; photogra-
ply. Earl d. Mann, MA 1892 or
PR 2510; paintings. water colors
and prints, Melvin kohler. College
of Puget Sound. or BR 3795.
Entry blanks may be obtained
from American Art company, TAB
st. Helens; Holt Art store, 742
Broadway; Camera shop. 1921 Pa
eific. Central school and College of
Puget Sound. Entries must be at
the office OF the committee, Col
lege Of Puget Sound, not later than
Nov. Is. Exhibits must be deliv-
cred to the display room, Washing
ton building, Saturday, Nov. IS.
or Monday, Nov. is, between the
hours Of 10 a. m. and p. m. An
exception relates to prints and
water colors which may be deliv-
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Choose Officers
AT Two CRANES

GIG HARBOR - Harry Thralls
was elected master OF the Pomona
Grange. No. so. at a meeting Sat
urday in the Grange hall. Robert
Roby was named oversser: Mrs.
Anna Mcintyre. lecturer: Elmer
Olson. steward; Robert Olsen. as
sistant steward; Mrs. Lavantia
Bigley. chaplain; Walter Johnston,
treasurer, Mrs. Frances Foster.
SECRETARY; Mrs. Jeanne Roby. gate
keeper; Mrs. Jessie Edwards. Po-
mona; Mrs. Nellie Johnston, Ceres,
Mrs. Dorothy Van Slyke, Flora:
Mrs. Nola Thralls. lady assistant
steward.
Named for the executive com
mittee for a three-yesr term WAS
o. l.. Edwards, who also WAS
selected to head the agricultural
committee. Mrs. Otile jain WAS
chosen home economics chairman
Johnston viii be serving his sixth
term AZ treasurer.
Gig Harbor Grange, No. AS,
elected officers Friday. naming
J. r. Borgert as master.
Ollie jain was elected overseer:
Robert Olsen, lecturer: Robert
Teeter. steward; Robert Roby, as
sistant steward. Mrs. Katherine
Borgert, chaplain; Mrs. Elise
Jacobsen, treasurer; Mrs. Frances
Foster, secretary; Mrs. Florence
Hofbauer, gatekeeper; Mrs. Doris
Fuqua, Ceres; Mrs. Jeanne Roby
Pomona; Mrs, Harry Teeter. Flora
Mrs. Anna Mcintyre, lady assist
ant steward.
Harold Roby was named on the
executive committee for q three
year term, Mrs. Mary Trombley
WAS selected as home economics
committee chairman, and Charles
Glenham. agricultural committee
chairman.
The Pomona and Gig Harbor
Oranges will hold a joint installa.
ton OF officers Saturday, Dec. I.
The Peninsula Federated clubs
will meet with the Progressive
club at the Fortnightly club hal
Friday night at o'clock, it was
announced Tuesday.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Schufer to Attend
dwelling of Plaque

Carlisle A. Schafer, pastor OF
Hope chapel, has gone to Portland
to be present at the unwilling of
q plaque at the Multnomah School
OF the Bible in memory of Or. and
Mrs Robert Grieves, recent mis-
sionary martyrs in an Italian
bombing raid in north Africa.
Or. Grieves was well known to
Mrs. Schafer, while Mrs, Grieves
WAS his schoolmste and fellow
graduate from the school. In the
absence Of the pastor. Mrs. Schafer
will give world news flashes of
interest to Christians at the mid
week service al Hope chapel on
Wednesday.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
HERE'S MORE ABOUT
Sandeqren S Rites

TIE concern three years. He also
WAS q lieutenant in the L. s. army
air corps reserve, and served on
active duty Al Hamilton field. Cal.
from June. 1896 until June. 1887.
He Was born in Tacoma and at
tended public schools here. gradu-
ating from Lincoln high school.
He was graduated from Washing
ton State college in 1898. While
in college, he became a member
Of the Theta Chi fraternity.
The pilot. a member Of First
Lutheran church. leaves his wife,
the former Miss Beverly Jones of
Tacoma and seven months old
daughter. Susan Dale OF Alameda.
Cal. where they established resi-
dence approximately four months
ago. moving there from Seattle.
Other surviving relatives include
his mother. Mrs. Tobias sande-
grcn Of Tacoma: three brothers.
Andrew Of Chicago. and Paul and
Raymond Of Tacoma. and three
hslf-sisters. Mrs. Louise Gerard OF
Detroit. Mich. Mrs. Theckla Wise
of Los Angeles. and Mrs Agda
ursin of Fairbanks, Alaska.
sandegren's wife and daughter.
together with his mother and
mother-in-law, Mrs. Herbert Jones
Of Eatonville, are en- route to Ia
coma from California by airplane.
Mrs. Sandegren was visiting the
couple at the time OF the tragedy.
and Mrs. Jones joined her dsugh-
.er after receiving word of the
accident.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
BOMBING RENEWED

Italy claimed Fascist submarines
in the Atlantic had sunk 100000
tons of shipping.
The German-Italian aerial siege
Of Britain was renewed after a
period Of extremely unfavorable
weather that almost stopped raids
on London for the first time in
two months.
Nszi airplanes roared over south
east England in formations OF 20
in attacks that Berlin described as
heavy"
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Joint Bid Is Lowest

A low bid of s464, $50 was sub
mitted by Henrickson Alstrom
Construction Co, Seattle. and Tom
W. Anderson. Tacoma, for con-
structing housing project at
Sand Point.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
ITALY's SUBS" BUSY

The Fascist spokesman. Nirgino
Gayds, wrote in Giornale d'Italia
that Italian submarines had been
sent into the Atlantic ocean 10 cut
off British supplies from South
America.
Other Fascist sources previously
had reported that dozens" OF Fas-
cist submarines were cooperating
with German craft in the siege of
the British isles. The toll of Brit
ISL shipping in the last two weeks
has been rising rapidly as result
OF intensified U-boat warfare. and
victims have included some of the
well-known liners transformed into
auxiliary cruisers.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
RECREATIoN INSTITUTE

A recreation institute. sponsored
by All leaders OF Pierce county
viii be held at Riverside school
from 10 10 p, IN. on Nov. IS.
Robert Haeer Of Tacoma Will be
in charge.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
$50 CHIMNEY FIRE

Despite tanning breeze which
threatened more extensive dam
age. chimney blaze was chalked
off at $50 Monday night by Dun
can Mclean, 4412 No. 25th.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Driver Is Arrested
Following Accident

In jail Tuesday was Arthur
Smith longshoreman, after his car
was in an accident at So. 4th and
Pacific ave. Monday night.
Smith, who lives at 33o6 No.
36th St, was charged with drunken
driving.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
BEGGAR ARRESTED

Booked for panhandlins at 18th
and Pacific ave. early Tuesday,
Jack Humphrey was held in the
city Jail.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
HERE'S MORE ABOUT
Battle OF Greece

troops and that The Greeks we're
well armed with British guns
British and Greek air forces were
reported 20 have operated with
great effectiveness against the
Italian columns and bases but the
Fascist air force dealt heavy
eounter-blows In the aerial var
over Greece.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06

Michigan cut and shipped rs
times as much white pine at one
time as it can provide or spare
today.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06

n you're not using IL. sell II with
q Fast Action Times Want Ad.
Phone Main 3131.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
HERE'S MORE ABOUT
Election Returns

president: Roosevelt 8, willkie ;.
In 1896 Harris Location gave
Roosevelt IL and Alfred Landon 4.
HENDERSON. n. C.-Nut-
bush precinct, In Vance coun-
~, cast its entire "a votes
for President Roosevelt today.
The rural precinct has main
taiDed for many years n rec
ord of a unanimous Demo
cratic vote and the first In
the state to report.
SHARON, n. II. - This town,
first in the nation to announce its
election returns. gave: Wendell l..
Willkie "a, President Roosevelt 7.
Polls were opened at the stroke
of midnight. The vote was COM
pleted and canvassed in five min
utes.
The 81 voters of this farming
and numbering community, perched
on a height west OF Temple noun
tain, had an election party. with
chicken pie served by the Monad-
nok Region association. in the
century old brick schoolhouse
where they voted.
Moderator George C. Keller. us
ing a stop watch, raised his arm at
midnight and the voters lined up
at seven booths. They were lighted
by candles and lanterns.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06
Epen
COLUMBUS
couldn't sail
a tanker TO
DENVER

MIGHTY efficient vessels are
INI our tankcrs. But they're
no prairie schooners. They re-
fuse TO sail on dry land. They
have an allergy TO mountain
climbing. That's why the cost
of shipping California gasoline
10 Denver would be seven times
the cost of delivering il in equi-
distant Seattle.
Water transportation allows
this Company TO deliver gaso-
line all along the Coast for
one-seventh the cost of ship
ping ii an equal distance by
rail. This helps keep the price
of Western gasoline low-de-
spite the altogether magnih-
cent distance most Of il travels.
Low-cost delivery BY water
is practicable today only be-
cause Standard has spent many
years in building up an ade-
quate tanker feet something
which can't be done in q day.
Our newest tanker-the m. E.
Lombrdf-is still s-building.
But this Company began pio-
nssring with tankers in the
days of magic Lanterns and
busdes .
Ii took courage and il took
money 10 originate our tanker
program in those distant times.
Bur il was SO ordered. Today
that biz of foresight BY Stand
ards earlier management prof
IFS every Pacific Coast motorist.
Ii spreads benefits like a rain
which comes when the farmers
need il.
Standard Oil Company
of California
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06

cred to the American Art COM
pany, and photographs. which will
be received at the Camera shop.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1940-11-06

president: Roosevelt 8. willkie 3.
In 1886 Harris Location gave
Roosevelt IL and Alfred Iandon 4
The guardian. [volume] (Boston, Mass.) 1901-1960, 1940-03-02
A Call to Action
CRISPUS ATTACKS DAY, MAR. s

All citizens generally and patriotic
organizations are urged and invited
to join in the annual celebration on
March in honor of Crispus Attacks
and the others who met their death in
the Boston Massacre on that date
ITO years ago and ushered in the
struggle for the Independence of the
U. S. A. as a nation.
The exercises, as usual, will be held
under the auspices of the National
Equal Rights League, with whose
work the name and memory of the
late Editor William Monroe Trotter
will always remain green. The eXer-
cises will begin at 1918 am. at the
spot on State Street where the men
fell, just back of the old State House
on Washington Street, where all are
asked to assemble From there the
group will proceed to the nearby Ora
nary Burial Ground on fremont St.
where exercises will be held at Ills
am. and thence to the Massacre
Monument on the Boston Common.
just opposite Keith's Theatre on Ire
mont Street for the main exercises at
1915 noon.
The Governor and the Mayor are
expected to be present, and will place
wreaths. The exercises will present
other interesting features. Remember
the date, Tuesday, March 5.
The guardian. [volume] (Boston, Mass.) 1901-1960, 1940-03-02

feature will be the revival of old fash
toned group dances in the modern man
ner the names of the leading gla-
mour girls in the Metropolitan
"Oomph Girl" contest now being con
Quoted by the Boston Chapter of Girl
Friends will appear in this column
next week . the Attucks Chorus of
Boston will appear in concert at Jor-
dan Hall, April 4, 1910 with Rev.
Clayton Powell, Jr., as guest speaker
Rev. Powell, pastor of the largest
Protestant Church in the world, the
Abyssinia Baptist Church, New York
Graduate of Columbia and Colgate
Colleges aggressive, able, conscien-
tious race warrior e.. one of the ma
TONS most capable orators ac-
claimed by millions for the recent ad-
dress on the wings Over Jordan
radio program has a congregation
of $4,000 members white and cOlored
writes weekly articles for the Ans
terdam News and there you have a
brief pen picture of the dynamic per
sonality whom we will once again wei
come and hear a vibrant message
beginning Sunday, March 3, the Acad-
envy of Motion Picture Arts and Scien-
ces Award winner for the Best picture
of 1899 comes for a limited engage
With the Wind" after eight record
ment at the Majestic Theatre g., Gone
breaking weeks at Loew's State and
Orpheum Theatres screenings at
10, and s night shows and Sun
day matinees $1.l0 -. other showings
at IS cents =. starring Vivian Leigh,
Clark Gable, Leslie Howard, Olivia De
Haviland, Thomas Mitchell and the
coIored screen star Hattie Mcdaniel
who received the Academy Award for
the best supporting role played by
any actress during 1899 based on her
memorable performance as NANNY"
in "Gone With The Wind" . here's
your chance to see her magnificent por-
trayal again at the Majestic Theatre
it seems that a staircase is mighty
lucky to a lot of tragedians these days
Hattie Mcdaniel won her spars
for her tragic moments pleading with
Melanie ascending a staircase .
Abbie Mitchell has her big moment de
scending the staircase in "The Little
Foxes" -. Tulullah Bankhead runs the
gamut of emotion ascending the stair
case in the final scene of the same play
Frank Conroy struggles up those
ubiquitous stairs in the throes of a
heart attack .. perhaps the next play
the Boston Players do will be drama
tization of Bill Robinson's stair dance
the Boston Chapter of the Debs
About Town will hold an Eastern Sea-
Board Conclave here during this month
with a guest dance and social at the
Green Acres Country Club welcome
to our city, fair damsels from afar D..
if YOU can read our music, we'll sing
from bar to bar and our prolific novel
list and columnist Gertrude Schalk, au-
thor of Toki Talks About Boston So
ciety is now eligible for pledge of the
Ivy Leafs she is back to happy
school days again now attending
Berkeley Preparatory School for aca-
demic credits prior to entering Suffolk
University School of Journalism O..
more power to our First Lady of the
Press who received her best marks
from Clark Goombye. d.
GOO f. DUCK.
The guardian. [volume] (Boston, Mass.) 1901-1960, 1940-03-02
MASSACRE DAY BILL
THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS

In the Year One Thousand Nine Hundred and ThrtyTwo
Crspus Attacks Samuel Maverick
James Caldwell Samuel Gray and Patrick Carr
assembled by the authority Of the follows
amended
following secton:--
lid shall annually proclamation calling TO-
African and Samue
Caldwell Patrick heroic deaths
the nrst martyrs in the Of American independance
The guardian. [volume] (Boston, Mass.) 1901-1960, 1940-03-02
WISE SAYINGS

He that lives well is learned enough.
Wealth is not his who has it, but
mis- who enjoys it.
Wink at small faults-remember
chou hast great ones.
The guardian. [volume] (Boston, Mass.) 1901-1960, 1940-03-02

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The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1940-02-12
LINCOLN AND DARWIN

On February IL, 1909, two boy babies
were born in widely separated homes, one
in America and the other in England, but
both were destined to exert far-reaching
influence upon their own and future gen.
erations. They were Abraham Lincoln
and Charles Robert Darwin
Aside from their common birthday
and the fact that both attained undying
fame, their careers were almost entirely
dissimilar. Lincoln lived in the maelstrom
of politics and war, while Darwin pursued
the quiet life of naturalist, although the
scientific ideas which he advanced raised
a mighty controversy, the end of which is
not yet in sight.
Lincoln was born of obscure parents
to the Presidency of the United States dur
ing the time of the nations greatest crisis.
His assassination just at the close of the
Civil War deprived the country of his wise
guidance during reconstruction. Had he
lived, much of the bitterness engendered
during that trying period might have been
avoided. But his greatness of mind and
heart is universally recognized and his
name is honored in the South as we'll as in
the North.
Darwin came of distinguished an
cestry, was educated at Oxford, and as a
result of his researches gave to the world
the epoch-making work, "The Origin of
Specie in which, to quote Rev. Henry Van
Dyke, "he gave lucidity and conference to
the conception of progressive and con-
tinuous creation, which has changed the
face of the modern scientific world
Probably no two persons born on the
same day ever made such an impress upon
the lives and thoughts of their fellow
men as have Lincoln and Darwin, who first
saw the light 131 years ago.