The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-03-10

, about mathematical accuracy, but will you take a reasonable amount of time necessary and look through the alleged sheets and approximate as best as you can the number o1 claims which were on those sheets presented to the board at thai meeting?
 A. 465.
 Q. That is exclusive of the pay roll items?
 A. Well, there are some payroll items.
 o. Are they numbered?
 A. Yes. Shall I count those?
 Q. I think would like to have you do so.
 A. At that time, there was 8 number assigned to each depart ment, so there is lot of them Made At Certain Times
 Q. Speaking of payrolls-before go on with this line of inquiry ] started-the payrolls were regularly made at certain definite times Weren't they? A. Yes.
 Q. think you said that the teachers were paid on a certain basis of how many weeks? A. Every two weeks.
 o. There were some employees that got paid every week?
 A. Yes.
 o. And others besides the teach- CTS who got paid every two weeks? A. The teachers were paid every two weeks, but some employees were paid by the month.
 @. So that is 1t accurate to say that teachers being paid every two weeks, main employees of the city paid monthly or weekly? A. That's right. Yes.
 e. Those checks to the city em- ployes-in cases of those paid every week, in cases of those paid every two weeks and in cases of those paid monthly-were those presented at the meeting of the board of fi- nance?
 A. Yes.
 o. That is, what happened on the payrolls would be that when the Board of Finance met, there would be specific items and a tota! paid before that meeting or both that would be entered on the war rants payable sheet? A. That's correct. Written After Payment
 Q. In other words, the payroll. were written after payment.
 A. Yes.
 o. And the checks went out be. fore the approval was had. | A. They were, with the permis. sion of the Board of Finance.
 Q. That was the practice?
 A. Yes.
 c. Now going back to the topit that we left. Again would you tel me the number of items that yo, found were there?
 A. 455 which includes the pay. rolls.
 0. Could you roughly tell me hoy many payrolls?
 A. It is difficult to count them At that time the procedure was diff ferent from later on. At that time there was a voucher for each de partment.
 o. No matter. Would there be , hundred items of the payroll?
 A. Might be.
 @. How long did the meeting that you attended continue?
 A. That was a fairly long meet ing.
 Q. Why?
 A. Because there were numbe of votes passed having to do witt the setting Up of special accoun of the sinking fund for amounts di verted in the prior years.
 @. Well, I realize you couldn' tell me exactly after eight years but to your best recollection, it wa approximately how long?
 Time to Pass Them | A. There were, I think I said eleven sheets and there were sev en members of the Board of Fi nance at the meeting on that date and 1t would take considerable tim, to pass those sheets from one to tn, | other.
 o. The time required to pas those sheets by the seven member represents, doesn't 1t, about all tn time that was given to the con sideration of the claims on thos sheets?
 A. That is my best recollection. | @. What material did you talk to the meeting as representative o the controller?
 A. think the meeting was il progress when was called and a I gathered up the sheets, there wer yet the votes that had to be pre- pared.
 o. Were those votes prepared fo passage at the meeting and the war rants payable sheets that you signe' all the material that you took to tn meeting?
 A. Yes. It was already for me o' MT. Leary's desk. c. You didn't take any voucher to the meeting?
 A. No.
 @. Whether or not any voucher were called for at the meeting?
 A. No. I don't recall that an vouchers were called. I don't believ