The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-04-05

A. Early in March.
 e. Where was that meeting2
 A. I think it was in the same place. It may have been in the Pharmacy Commission room, but I think it was in the room on the fourth floor.
 Q How did you get word htat there was to be a meeting?
 A. usually got notice from MT. Mackenzie.
 o. What time of day was it? A. I think 1t was the forenoon. c. You went in the same room on the fourth floor?
 A. Yes.
 e. Who was present?
 $4.500 in Cash
 A. MT. Leary, MT. Mackenzie and myself.
 e. Will you tell the jury what took place inside?
 A. It was a 5000 check, a vouch- CT to cover the same amount and $4,500 in cash. Q. Who presented the check and the voucher?
 A. MT. Leary.
 o. Was it a Waterbury check? A. It was.
 o. Had you asked him for any money or did you know you were going to get any money until that morning?
 A. No.
 Q. Did you endorse the check? A. did.
 Q. Whether or not you signed the voucher?
 A. did.
 0. Now, you say MT. Leary pro- duced $4,500 in cash?
 A. That's right.
 'T Got It"
 o. What was done with that cash? A. got it.
 Q. And how long did you stay in the room together?
 A. Very briefly.
 @. That made $21, ,000 up to early in March?
 A. That's right.
 o. During this time, whether or not you communicated with MT. Hayes or he with you with respect with what was going on?
 A. Only in reference from time to time about what bills Waterbury wanted and what they didn't want. @. Did you get orders from MT. Leary as to what those bills were that were wanted or not wanted? A. Primarily.
 Q. Didn't you get orders from any body as to what was wanted and what wasn't wanted?
 A. Well, MT. Leary told us to communicate with MT. Hayes, that he would tell me what was wanted and what wasn't.
 A. As 8 result of that, did you communicate with MT. Hayes? A. From time to time. ? @. Did you do that up to this sec- ond payment in March-to com- municate with MT. Hayes from time to time?
 A. It was done off and on during the whole session.
 @. Where did you see him usually? A. In the Senate room during the recess. My talk with Mayor Hayes was very brief. From time to time he would give me slip with list of bills-some of them marked to be passed and some of them to be killed.
 0. We have the payment in Feb ruary = $12,000, in March = 5000, whether or not there was a payment in April?
 A. Yes.
 e. Where was that payment made?
 A. think in the same place. I couldn't be sure whether it was in the little room or in the pharmacy commission room. think it was in the little room on the fourth floor.
 Q. In April, how much was paid? A. $3,400.
 Endorsed Check
 e. And whether it was paid under the same circumstances?
 A. Yes.
 c. Did you endorse the check? A. I did.
 c. It was payable to you?
 A. Yes.
 Q. How much cash did you get at that time?
 A. $1.700. got $850 and Macken- zie got $850.
 Q. Had you asked for any money at that time?
 A. No.
 Q. So far as you know, had Mackenzie asked him for any money? A. Not to my knowledge.
 A. And whether or not you con- tinued to get instructions from MT. Hayes with respect to Waterbury matters?
 A. From time to time.
 c. As understand you, these checks that you endorsed were pay able to you and were city of Water bury checks?
 A. I think they were.