The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-02-08
Evidence Written Into Conspiracy TaSoy Today
Grand Jury Minutes
 Feature Examination

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 A. No. That is the second check. Q. The third check Is for eo,266. A. I recall a 5000 in the latter part of 1885.
 c. Yes.
 4. At that time, I had endeav- ored to sever relationships because on frequent occasions when made, asked MT. Kelly If the savings correspondended to the amount and if 1t was justified for 1t.
 He treasured me that there was, but the payments had become SO heavy and I wanted to sever rela- tionships but he told me that from the $0,O00 would get &2,O00, he would get $2000, $5,O0O for MT. Leary and the balance for Olsen. e. $265 for olsen2
 A. Yes.
 e. Take the first check for Jan- uary so-$o,soo. 1886.
 4. 1895.
 $500 For Olsen
 e. That would be $500 for Olsen? A. am sorry, but ct the time that arrangement was made, 1t was in the latter part of 1885. c. All right. Did Olsen get the $500 on the January check of $9,- 300 of 1885? A. Yes.
 e. $7s5 in June; $2e5 in septem- ber and $890 in December making Q total for that year, $S6,26l? | A. Yes.
 @. Now beginning in April, there was a check of S9600.
 A. I received $2,000 from that. e. How much did Kelly receiver A. Kelly received the balance. I don't recall his giving money except on one occasion.
 e. When was that that you ac- tually saw him?
 A. That actually saw hirn7 c. When was that
 Al think 1t was just prior to some trip that he was taking. don't remember when. Vt. HOW much was IVY
 A. It was several hundred dol- lars, the odd money over the thou sand dollars.
 c. The first check would be $e,- $50 In April.
 A. Yes. received s2000.
 Kelly Retains Balance e. And the balance went where? A. The balance was retained by Kelly.
 c. The next check--July 9, i93e. A. That Is, $9,660. c. How much did you get from that?
 A. 5000.
 c. And the balance went where? A. Mir. Kelly retained 1t. e. November 2S, lo36-$S,eo0. Where did that 90? A. believe received $2,000 and Kelly retained the balance. c. He retained the balance2 A. Yes.
 c. You You know how the balance A. i don't know actually, but on that occasion in 1885 with reference to the check, Kelly said to me. "You get $2,000, ! get s2,000, 5000 goes to Leary, and the balance goes to Olsen-the odd sum to olsen" e. It appears March io 1887, you got c check for S9,326.
 A. received s2,000.
 c. What was done with the rest2 A. Kelly retained 1t.
 e. Do you know how they split A. No, I don't. c. July 8, 1887. he got to,345. How much did you get?
 A. S2,000.
 e. Kelly retained the rest' A. Yes.
 Tn The Mayors Office c. Were all these payments that you have described made in the mayors office2
 A. Yes, sir.
 c. Were they made about the same time of day7
 A. Yes.
 e. About i2:302
 A. Yes, sir. | &s WILLY WNo tkAWbT A. don't know except that the mayor was never there-the lunch hour.
 e. Do you happen to know as whether or not there was any ste- nographer there ct any timer A, No, there wasn't.
 a. Nobody around?
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 q. When they took you down to the cellar in the basement, where were these boxes located?
 4. don't remember.
 c. Was it in c lighted room or In c hallway?
 A. I think 1t was c hallway. c. Anybody around?
 A. No. There were occasions when . stenographer was there, but neither when Kelly and I were in the mayors office.
 e. You also signed the checks and vouchers, take it?
 4. Yes.
 q, Were they always ready when you arrived, or would Kelly send for them?
 A. They were usually ready when I arrived. Sometimes he would call the controllers ofiice and 90 down and get them. I Further in the reading of the grand jury record by McDonough. c. (By 6 juror) MT. Levy' A. Yes.
 c. I have understood you to rec peat to MT. Aicorn that your con- tract did not involve any payment for getting af increased assessment, Is that so?
 A. That is correct.
 Reason
 c. Now, if I understood your tes- timony, ct the time that one pay | A.