The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-04-12
ALcorn Tells Williamson
 Not To Run Away From Trial
Weary Admits His Responsibility Average He Continues Telling of Splitting Cheeks" for Legislative
 Lobbying

- have had since was here last week, instead of drifting, you would not have had me here now.
 o. Well, self-destruction is a powerful thing and if you had that in mind, get 1t out of your mind now.
 A. I had not thought about that.
 Not Running Away
 o. You would not help yourself If yor would run to the corners of the globe. You would have to come back.
 A. nm not going to run, MT. Alcorn. If I was going to go, I would not be tere today.
 Aside from the record:
 Later on:
 o. You didn't feel that you were, of course, party to a colossal fraud?
 A. At that time, no.
 o. Well, you don't feel that way about it now, do you, and the fact is that you pleaded not guilty and you still feel that you are innocent, don't you?
 A. Yes.
 Record:
 o. Now, MT. williamson, I want you to give us the truth.
 A. MT. Alcorn, I will give you everything. I want to tell you, MT. Alcorn, sat down with Ed Hickey and told him everything I recalled and then I told him that was go- ing to tell everything told him to the grand jury. A few questions would make it easier for me because your recollection isn't so good. Aside from Record:
 Q. Did you make that answer to that question? A. Yes.
 o. suppose when you said your recollection isn't so good" you meant your own and not the states attor- ney's? A. It would seem so.
 Record:
 Q. Had you talked with Leary as to how he was going to cover that? A. No. o. Did you ask him how he ex- pected you to carry that load get- ting on the face of the records $24,- 900 when you only got $12,000? A. Frankly, at that time, and the excitement at that time, and the pressure that was going on, it was hard work-much harder than car- ing for work over your desk.
 o. Did you talk to Leary-if he split with anybody else half of the check?
 $31,00O For Larkin
 A. No. That never was men, toned. The only thing that seem- ed to ease my mind on the situa- ton at all, not in connection with the splitting but in connection with the amount, was that Bill Larkin- back or years ago-had been paid something like $31,000.
 o. Larkin had?
 A. Yes.
 e. In the same way?
 A. That I don't know.
 Q. Did Leary tell you that?
 A. No. I also got the idea that he referred to Larkin's payments when some administration that had not Identified I think it was prior to any event because he re- ferred to Abner Hayes and Abner Hayes had been dead for some length of time. But I linked Abner Hayes up to that situation, too.
 Further on-from Record:
 A. ... and Rorabach said that is the way they run their campaign expense.
 Q. Did Mackenzie tell you that Rorabach was getting any of the money? A. No. Machine Man
 o. Why didn't you get chance to talk with Rorabach about it? A. I practically never had 6 conference with MT. Rorabach. They say am machine man"-I an to certain degree, but I never got to first base with him.
 @. Was it Mackenzie that tolc you that MT. Rorabach said that was the way they run their cam. paign? A. He told me that on two ol three different occasions.
 o. I want to get at what took place on this first Nccasion which was a split. Leary eping half o1 the check?
 A. That's right. ] Q. You and Mackenzie must