The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-05-04

quired a great deal of time, atten- ton and research, consultation with city officials and others?"
 "Yes," was the reply.
 "You supervised 1t and were re- Sponsible for it all?" continued Mur- ray.
 "Yes," was the reply
 Commissioner G0ss On Stand
 Finance Commissioner GoSs, a member of the commission since 1921 having first been appointed by former Mayor Guilfoile, was on the stand but a few moments. But for a gsw months during the winter when he goes to Florida, he testi- fled, he was a regular attendant ot the meetings of the board.
 On direct examination he told the court and jury that Mayor Hayes, Controller Leary and Executive Secretary Kelly also attended the meetings.
 Couldn't Recall Payments
 The warrants payable sheets, which the state claims the finance commissioners signed without re- viewing, were glanced over" the witness said. He could not recall any items referring to the payment of $58,4O0 to Charles E. Williamson, nor could he recall that he had ap- uroyed any items of payment to Edward G. Levy of New Haven, Mayor Spellacy of Hartford, Attor- ney Weisman, Carmody & Thoms, Judge John F. McGrath, MT. Gull foile. John s. Johnson, or John J. Purdie.
 Impossible to Recall Them
 Cross-examined by Attorney Mur- ray he said that there were so many items approved during his lS wears as a finance commissioner, 1t would be impossible to recall any special payments.
 Questioned concerning his preSi- dency of the Scovill Mfg. Co.,, he said that the firm at present em- ploys about five or six thousand workers, although at the time of the signing of the Armistice l6,OOO were working.
 Rowland May be Called
 At the conclusion of the present trend of testimony, it is expected that Controller Sherwood Rowland, who went into office in 1887 when he defeated Controller Leary by a margin of 33 votes, will be called to the stand.
 Rowland is under subpoena, and undoubtedly will testify before. the close of the next week of the trial. The trial is now in its 21st week.
 Overhead of Firm Heavy
 As indication of the extent of bus- iness performed by his firm, Thoms said that the annual overhead of the firm is 5000, and that amount must be paid out before he or his partner, T. o. Carmody could draw any compensation.
 Seven secretaries and stenogra- uhers are hired he said, and other expenses run to a high mark. All cheeks received from the city of Waterbury were deposited through the law firm, he said and were on the account of the law firm.
 Guilfoile testified that he was hired by the mayor, but Thoms said he was employed by the corpora- ton counsel and the mayor.
 Knew of Williamson
 Asked if he knew that Mayor spellacy of Hartford was working in the interests of the city, Thoms replied that he did not. Everybody knows Charles E. Williamson was employed by the city" he said. Tt was common knowledge"
 He said that he was not acquaint- ed with the operation of the board of finance of the city and therefore could not say If they had approved bis payments
 Although the books of his firm would show the receipts of money from the city of Waterbury. there were no records of charges made against the city. he testified.
 n his opinion, he reiterated firmly. the city of Waterbury had to have special counsel" The state charges In It's information that one of the violations committed by Mayor Hayes was the hiring oi @7f#@@Ht 8ttHAASfat
 Iwenty.two men, besides Mayor Hayes, are on trial on charges Of conspiracy to defraud tho city oi 7lefe than a million dollars,
 Did No Lobbying
 "I didn't do any lobbying but ! 1'd have a great deal tO do with drafting ieaIslailon,e Tholls said, 25{4x<ns Ina gnettai nf tltA eAruseaa of HIz IaH firm for the city,
 Hanld ll be correct io say thal SfII HsIa consulted dAily by ols <|4IAls pl tho city Of Waterbury," H*&ed Murray
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