The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-04-12


 Investigator for A1c0rn Invited | Williamson to Hotel Taft, New Haven, for Special Chat. That is what I want you to do. Yol have got to substitute something else for it, MT. Williamson?
 Aside from Record: @. Do you remember MT. Alcor1 saying that to you? A. don't recall it. o. You don't recall him saying tt you you have got to substitute something for it?"
 A. I don't recall it.
 Q. You didn't take that as an in vitation on the part of the state! attorney for your to devise story that would sound plausible, did youi
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 @. Now, rack your brain and say anything you please. I don't cart what it is. Tell anything you please What was said while you were there for half an hour to an hour?
 A. tPause) Well, I don't know what you're driving at, MT. Alcorn Aside from Record: Did you adhere then to the state! attorneys importantly to tell any thing?
 A. I don't recall that. 0. You say you don't remember? A. No, don't. Record:
 o. What do you mean you don't know what I'm driving at. Haven't I made it perfectly clear to youi You know what I'm driving at, don't you?
 Trying to Connect
 A. It would seem to me as though you were trying to connect me ur with the disappearance of the Wa terbury records.
 o. Oh, haven't intimated to yor that you had anything to do witt the disappearance of the Waterbury records. asked you to tell me what Leary said about the disappearance of the Waterbury records-not that you had anything to do with theil disappearance. What did he say? am not accusing you of having done that-I haven't intimated that tc you. I asked you only to tell us the truth as to what Leary said witf respect to those records. That is what I want to know unless you want to Protect Leary.
 A. have no interest in MT. Leary o. All right, then tell us what ht said.
 A. And have no interest in any. body else except myself in this.
 Aside from Record:
 o. Were you asked that question and make that answer?
 A. Yes.
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 Q. I should think you would want to look out for yourself. I don't think you made a good job of it this aft ernoon, if you will permit me to say so, but nevertheless, imagine you have got considerable vital, persona interest in it. But so far as the dis appearance of the records go, I'm not intimating that you have had g part in it. am asking only to tel the grand jury what Leary said that afternoon at that interview, about the disappearance of the records be. cause he said a great deal.
 Don't Know A. Well, don't know. I frankly don't know what he said about any. thing and you have suggested to mt that I felt fine because the records Q. I don't know how you felt. would like to find out how you felt but I'm only interested in finding out just now what MT. Leary said not meaning to intimate that | don't know, but want to find ou from you what he said about thu disappearance of those records. (Pause). Now, what did he say? A. Whatever he planned to do il Waterbury when he left that office I had no knowledge-as far as W, were concerned about what he in tended to do.
 Q. Now, MT. Williamson, think see the reticence you have here. Yol think what is being done here is tt incriminate you in the plan t destroy the records. No. when sa, to you that am not discriminating you, that you were a party of tht plan to destroy those records, art you willing to tell us what MT. Leary said that day about the disappear. ance of the records? A. About the disappearance ol about what .ay have happened later?
 o. What may have taken place ol what was likely to happen in the future. Now, what did he say? Interested in Self A. Well, think he was concern. ed about somebody nosing in, what he regarded, some of his business As to just how he would meet that situation I don't think he told me You still think that I am trying te protect MT. Leary? am not inter- ested in MT. Leary, MT. Hayes ol MT. Brown or MT. Jones. I'm in- terested in myself. have gone along this line and I have told the truth This situation that happened in Wa terbury was not of my promoting al all.
 o. MT. Williamson, I have spent over an hour tonight and this grand jury has sat here very patiently
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