The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-02-14

AWAQs
 e. Who runs that?
 A. can't say who did at that time.
 e. Whether or not these checks came through without approval of the board of financea Whether they were at any time to your knowledge issued out of sequence?
 A, Well, they had been the kind we just mentioned, issued without a number.
 e. Oh, that's what you mean by Issuance without number. Now then when you found this situa- tion, whether or not you took 1t up with MT. Leary?
 A. Yes.
 o. Tell what you said with himq As near as you can fix the time?
 A. 1881.
 Q. Do you remember what part of the year 1t was?
 A. No. I would say about the middle of the year-perhaps little later.
 c. Tell the circumstances of what was said.
 A. Well, I thought that he was making 1t difficult for the book keeper to keep the work up-to-date when it was necessary to add these claims after the checks were re- turned from the bank, and at the end 1t was diflcult since the bookkeeping record anticipated claims made in numercal sequence, 1t was difficult to know when one month ended and one began, because of the way these checks were handed without ap- proval of the board of finance, and after they had been returned from the bank. And I don't remember what was said at the time, but 1t was after that.
 @ Will you proceed with what took place after that?
 A. It was after that time that the blank checks were used so that 1t would be possible to conveniently number the checks when they were to be added on the Warrants Pay- able Sheets.
 c. whether about this time you observed the comptroller making large payments to employees in ex- cess of their salaries as fixed by the charter?
 A. I'm not positive whether that's 1881 or not.
 0. Well fix the time as best as you can.
 A. It was the year 1891 or 1882.
 o. Whether you had any talk with Mr. Leary with respect to sala- ries being paid by the city?
 A. Yes.
 o. Do you remember when that was?
 A. I'm quite sure 1t was in 1881.
 Extra Work
 o. What was the conversation between you and Mir. Leary about this?
 A. With regard to the extra amounts being paid to the assessors, not only were they in excess of the amount fixed by the charter but there was no appropriation for them. Their being in excess, or lack of appropriation. I don't know which 1t was, I recall Mir. Leary said something to the effect that they were doing extra work at that time. Doing extra work for that addi- tional money.
 @. Do you remember whether you called his attention that some were receiving in excess of their salaries?
 A. Well, 1t wasn't necessary, be- cause he knew he was making the payments.
 @. I want to know whether you actually called his attention to this payment matter?
 A. Yes.
 @. Did you also call his attention to other compensations for which there was no appropriation?
 A. don't recall any others.
 @. Did you tell him what the ef- feet of 1t was?
 A. Well, I told him that I could- mt see how It could be done. The amount was fixed by the charter, and couldn't see how it could be paid.
 Q. Did you make any remark to him?
 A. Well, I don't recall whether it was at that time or not.
 o. Was there another conversa- tion?
 A. Yes.
 Q. When was the latter conver- sation? As near as you can fix it. A. I can't fix the year about that. l. o. What did he say to you or what did you say to him?
 A. Well, I said it was irregular
 A. Did you call his attention to the amounts that were being paid at that time?
 A. Well, we may have talked about one officer or one employe.
 Offered $500
 @. Did he say anything at the time that affected you or your sal- ary?
 A. On one occasion he told me that there was some there for me and as I recall the amount was $500 and that was after the end of the year-after December 31. I don't re- call the year it was. If the appro- priation was what I think it was 1t did show a balance of $500. When ever that proposal was made to me on other occasions, said that If you feel that I'm entitled to an in- crease in salary, I'll be glad to have 1t, but it must be in the section prescribed by charter.
 o. Now in 1881 you said they had a system of invoices? Did they have such a system in 1881?
 A. Yes.
 Q. Would you explain to the jury what you mean by duplicate in- voices? A. The standard invoice that referred to you as being part of the system was in duplicate. That was the invoice used by creditors in place of their own invoices for serv- ices and supplies.
 0. Whether or not that was dis continued in 1e3Io