The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-03-17

@. On the first floor? Was it the main office? A. His private office.
 @. Were you alone?
 A. Alone with MT. O'Connor.
 Q. You and MT. O'Connor-were you alone? A. Yes. Q. No one else heard the con- versation, do you know?
 A. I don't think so.
 Q. Can you tell us the time of the day?
 A. My best recollection is that it was in the morning.
 o. Early in the morning? I mean by that, ten o'clock or so?
 A. don't remember exactly. l think it was in the morning.
 Q. You made no notes of what took place at that conversation?
 A. No.
 @. I mean by that-no written memorandum?
 A. No.
 Q. Your memory hasn't been re- freshed as to what that conversa- tion was you just testified?
 A. No. Q. Correct, isn't it?
 A. Correct.
 @. You know how MT. Alcorn knew that there was such a conver- Sation?
 A. I don't know.
 e. You didn't tell anybody about it, A did NO you'
 Q. So that you haven't the least idea how MT. Alcorn knew that such a conversation took place?
 A. I think he asked me the other day If had conversation with MT O'Connor. @. His first question was: Whe- ther or not you had conversation with MT. O'Connor?
 A. Yes. | Doesn't Remember
 Q. You know how he knew that you had conversation with him, ii you didn't tell him?
 A. Not unless I testified to the grand jury that I did.
 o. Did you?
 A. I don't know.
 Q. Now, what you testified tc now is your memory of what took place at that conversation, is that correct?
 A. That's correct.
 o. And as I understand it, 1t was at the time that MT. O'Connor was making his first report on his ex- pense account. Is that correct?
 A. Yes.
 0. What was your technical word for it?
 A. Reimbursement of the petty cash.
 1 Q. And to clear up that question I think you already testified to that that the proceeding was this in re- ference to MT. O'Connor's petty casf that he was advanced $4OO anc when he had used that $400 he ac. counted for it to the controller. office and then was advanced more money so that he would always have $400 in his possession. Is that cor. rect?
 A. Yes.
 Q. And as I understand 1t, that $40O he had was never included ii, the budget, was it?
 A. No. It was advanced in the payroll.
 Q. Was it always the payroll? Wasn't 1t an advancement from a different appropriation?
 A. It was advanced originally, SC far as know, in every year in the payroll account as all other petty cash.
 o. And then, at the end of the year, when you were making up the annual report or assisting in any way, isn't 1t fact that you used to contact MT. O'Connor, asking him how much money he had remain ing of the $400, and then advanced that so that you started off anew in the next year?
 A. Yes. The original amount was loaned to be returned at the end ot the year.
 o. It was, more or less, a book keeping proposition. You considered It as an advance or loan the amount of $400-and at the end ot the year the accounting was made and he started off the year follow ing with a fresh $400.
 A. The accounting was made nearly every month but he did start of fresh each year.
 o. And as I understand it, he accounted with you, that is, the ball. ance in his possession was struck with you. Is that corrert?
 A. I notified him that 1t was close to the end of the year and time to turn 1t back.
 @. And start of again anew? | A. That is right.
 Talked About Vouchers
 e. This conversation that you had with him that day, May 2, 1888 was in reference to these vouchers that he had the preceding year, and he said that as soon as he account cd for them, he would keep them? A. No. T. suggested that he should keep them in the future.
 o. And he said that as soon as he accounted that he would not keep them any more? Is that correct?
 A. That is.
 Attorney Slade:
 MT. Purcell, don't you remember whether MT. Alcorn showed you the vouchers and asked whether you made out the vouchers.
 A. I said
 Q. Is 1t true that you made out the voucher just as you said?
 A. don't type, MT. Slade. think I told you before.
 o. I don't care whether you type or whether you don't. I asked you whether you didn't tell MT. Alcorn that you prepared and presented the vouchers and you said yes. A. supplied the information. Q. Won't you answer my ques- ton please? A. I'm trying to.
 @. don't agree with you. Didn't you tell MT. Alcorn only few mo- \ meYltg aRO WhethAr that iev,t tl,n