The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-04-19
Janitor Burned Papers, Records
 Under Orders From, Supt. Tim Morgan

those questions and did you give those answers? A. Yes. Record: Didn't Move Them
 o. You said about IS boxes that you removed from the office to the basement? A. From the office? No. I didn't move them from the office. We moved this. They were supposed to be cancelled checks from the base ment down in the basement. McDonough: Were you asked that question and did you give that an- Swer? A. Yes.
 Record:
 By MT. Fitzgerald: Where did you take them from the basement? We burned them up.
 c. You burned them up? A. Yes. o. I don't know if I clearly under stand you. A. We burned the papers up. MT. Fitzgerald: He didn't take them from the office. They were in the basement as I understand. Not From Office Witness: Yes.
 Fitzgerald: He said he burned them. He didn't take them from the office, he said.
 Q. Oh, you didn't take any from the office? A. No. McDonough: Were you asked those questions and did you make those answers? A. Yes. Record:
 o. Upon whose instructions did you burn them?
 A. We got instructions from MT. Horgan. |
 Fitzgerald: MT. Morgan, the super- intendent? A. The superintendent-we burned papers every day.
 McDonough: Were you asked those questions and did you give those answers? A. Yes. Record: o. You emptied papers?
 A. I don't touch nothing-only when I'm told.
 o. Of course, you don't but l am referring to an incident in Decem- Der when certain papers were re- moved from the controllers office at the instructions of MT. Dunn. Do you recall that?
 A. No, don't recall that at all.
 c. You don't? You don't recall talking to MT. Dunn about the re- moval of
 A. Any papers?
 0. Any papers in the office.
 A. No, don't.
 o. Or any records?
 Burned Records
 A. The only things we took down were from the basement.
 o. You burned up some old rec ords from the basement?
 A. Yes.
 McDonough: Were you asked those questions and did you give those answers?
 A. Yes.
 Record:
 Fitzgerald: And where were they in the basement?
 Witness: Right as you go dowr the stairs.
 @. They have been there for some time?
 A. Yes, they have been there fol some time.
 e. You don't recall at any time (here witness cut in on Fitzgerale with answer)
 A. No, I don't.
 Fitzgerald (f1nishing question: going in to MT. Dunn?
 A. No, I don't.
 Q. Or asking MT. Dunn if h, wished to have you burn some rec. ords?
 A. No. He never asked me k burn any.
 McDonough: Were you asked thar question by the states attorney fol the district of Waterbury superseded by the present prosecutor and die you give that answer?
 A. Yes. Q. Did you lie to the grand juryi A. Yes. Q. Are you lying to this jury?
 A. No.
 e. Would you lie to this jury if you were in @ tight spot? Q. But you will lie if you think the occasion warrants 1t? A. No. c. well, you have lied in the past?
 A. Yes.
 Q. In other words. you have been a liar, haven't you? A. Yes.
 Q. You won't be a liar any more now, will you? A. I hope not. c. But you might lie. We'll let 1t go that way. Oh, by the way let's, go back to the Ginger Ale company. Did you have any ginger ale down there? A. No. Q. MT. Alcorn yesterday afternoon made remark that he didn't have to buy you a drink to make you talk. Of course, he isn't witness so I couldn't ask him what I'm ask. Ing you now whether MT. Alcorr bought you any ginger ale? | A. No, he didn't. Further on: l c. Can you tell this jury whal MT. Alcorn told you? Answer tha' yes or no,