The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-05-05

o. Can't you fix it with reference to this talk you had with MT. Meaney in March? l A. It was some time after that.
 o. You were before the grand jury, were you not? 1 A. I was.
 O. And what date were you here? A. I believe 1t was April IS, 1888.
 Before Jury Call
 o. Was it before your appearance before the grand jury or was it after that this leave began, to your knowledge?
 A. I think 1t was before.
 e. The last time you saw Borg naes was in March, is that right? l A. Yes.
 e. Have you heard from him since? A. haven't. @. Do you know where he is? l A. I do not.
 o. Do you know whether he has been in Kingsley's office since?
 A. have never seen hin-and, as far as know, he hasn't.
 o. Did you have 8 talk with Borgnaes when you saw him in March? ". A. Yes.
 Q. Where did you talk with him? A. At his home.
 @. What did you go over for?
 A. I heard he was ill and I went to see him.
 Q. You had no special reason for going?
 A. I did not. \
 o. Did Borgnaes have 8 family? A. Yes.
 o. Of whom did it consist?
 A. A wife and three children.
 o. You have been to his home since? A. Yes.
 o. Were they there? A. No. Gone To Europe Q. Do you know where they went?
 A. Europe. o. Do you know when they left for Europe? A. I don't know. @. This arrangement for doing special work for the mayor or Leary do you know what the terms were about how the compensation was to be met? 1 A. No. 0. Did you talk with Borgnaes about it? A. No.
 @. Nor with any other of the &C., cused? A. No. Q. Were you here in December 1887?
 A. I was. o. Did you see the accused AL derman here?
 A. Yes, did. e. Where was he when you saw him?
 A. Down in our office in the basement of the City Hall. o. Did you sect him anywhere else in the building?
 A. Yes. | o. Where?
 A. In the city sheriff's office in the City Hall.
 Q. Did you see any of the work he proposed to be doingP
 A. Yes.
 o. Where was 1t?
 A. In the sheriff's office Auditing Books
 e. Do you know what books and papers he had, if any?
 A. Yes.
 o. What were they? A. He was taking the audit of the Welfare Department, and some other department of the city, too. o. What department was it? A. don't quite recall.
 Q. Was 1t the controllers depart ment?
 A. Not that I recall.
 o. Did you see him with any checks or vouchers?
 A. No. I don't recall seeing checks or vouchers.
 c. Did you see kim with war; rants payable books?
 A. No.
 Borgnaes with respect to this spe- cial work he was doing for either Hayes or Leary?
 A. don't believe talked with him about it.
 o. Never told you what it was?
 A. No.
 Identifies Signature
 MT. Troy identified the signature of George H. Kingsley on city auditS.
 Attorney Crawford:
 o. I understood you to say, MT Troy, that this one conversation you had with MT. Borgnaes in which he mentioned MT. Alderman, he told you that MT. Alderman was engaged on departmental audits?
 A. That's right.
 Attorney Shade on cross examina- ton:
 @. Whether or not MT. Borgnaes was senior accountant in the firm while you were working there?
 A. believe he was senior &C., countant at that time.
 Q. In 1882 you were working on the audit for 1881?
 A. NO. l didn't work on the audit for that year.
 c. Then for the audit of 1892 you were working on that audit for the City of Waterbury?
 A. That's right.
 e. For the audit of 1882, you al- ready said MT. Borgnaes was work ing with you?
 A. That's right.
 e, Who was supervisor of the audit for l9329
 A. Mir. Met ey.
 e. At that sime, Mir. Meaney was an employe of George Kingsley Company in 1882?
 A. Yes. That's right.
 e. But MT. Borgnaes-was he actually In the field with you and the other men doing work in Wa. N Amu.