The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-07-18
Roars Back At AIcorn

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 T saw no reason why I should he roared back, when asked for a reason by Alcorn. T was not inter- ested."
 You didn't want Borgnaes .tc come," shot out Alcorn.
 "That,s not true" was the return Murray said that he did not know what Kingsley or Meany had done about attempting to locate Borg naes, but admitted that he did not think they had done anything.
 "Why didn't you check at the state department on the possible is- suance of passport, or at the steamship lines, as MT. Hickey did?' demanded Alcorn.
 T was not interested" was the response.
 Murray said that he knew no- thing whatsoever about the per- sonal financial affairs of Borgnaes, and added that the last he saw of him was on April 12 or 13, 1888.
 Doctor Against It
 Dr. Vans letter to Murray, dated April 18, 19SS said in part, T am writing this letter to you in regard to our conversation of to day, irI which you wish to cable MT. E Borgnaes to return home. I am de- termined against this"
 Dr. Van continued by giving a de- scription of the seriousness of Borg paes' ailments, including a heart beat of 160 to 180 a minute. "Rest is paramount" he said, "as these return attacks may easily lead to exhaustion of the heart"
 Therefore from the foregoing you can easily see that I do not wish MT. Borgnaes to be disturbed from his rest. It is absolutely against his orders. His health is to come first trust that I have made this very clear to you"
 Never Handled City Record
 After steadfastly denying that he never handled 8 city record, Murray said that he had edited the audit reports as prepared by the auditors working on the Waterbury books in 1884, 1885 and 1887.
 The changes made in the reports were based on information gained from the working auditors, in whom he had implicit confidence, v he said. All changes were proper ones, he continued.
 In all his experiences in Water bury, he continued, he had never had called to his attention any ir- regularity on the part of anyone.
 Hickey Went to New York
 Conversations about his search for Borgnaes started this morning, when Attorney Slade, counsel for Meany and Kingsley, who appeared in the defense of Murray before he was discharged for lack of evidence arked when the witness first met former County Defective Hickey.
 Murray said that Hickey and George L. Greer, an assistant came to their New York office February i2, 1888 to ask that Borgnaes and Francis B. Troy, both accountants appear before the grand jury. They were interested in knowing when the auditors had last seen the city books, Murray said Hickey had. told him.
 The witness explained that he had told Hickey that Meany knew something about the Waterbury books and might be of help. Meany himself suggested that he appear before the jury, Murray continued The accountants requested, however that time, that the grand jury ap- pearance be delayed until after March IS, because they would be busy until that time on income tax returns.
 Next Hickey Meeting
 The next time he saw Hickey Murray said, was April 19, 1888, when Hickey came to New York as result of a telephone conversation April 18, with him.
 Meany was before the grand jury April 18, Murray said. Meany called him to tell him that Alcorn was claiming that Borgnaes had gone to Europe, and wanted him to cable him to return.
 Asked To Cable Borgnaes
 Meany was calling from Hickey's office in the court building, adja- cent to the grand jury room. Hickey talked with Murray, the latter said, and asked him to cable Borgnaes to come back.
 T told him I didn't know where Borgnaes was or where could cable him." Hickey suggested that his doctor would know, and asked Murray to contact the doctor.
 The doctors certificate, concern ing the condition of Borgnaes' health had been sent to Waterbury with Meany, Murray said, and he told Hickey .tat he did not know the address of the doctor.
 Not Kidding Me, Hickey
 Hickey's reply to that was, You're not kidding me for one minute" To which Murray responded, I'm not trying to kid you, MT. Hickey I don't know"
 Hickey then read off the name and address to Murray, from the certificate which Meany had brought to Waterbury.
 Immediately after his conversation with Hickey, Murray said, he called Mrs. Borgnaes at her home in Hol- lis, l.. l., and told her that he had just been informed by Hickey that her husband was in Europe. T told her was surprised to hear it," he said.
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