The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-08-02

the controllers office. Of course, the testimony of Fleming's own chiei clerk was that those records had been burned. They had, in fact clerk testified in the trial that rec- ords were burned on orders of Fleming, said Alcorn.
 Prom whom Fleming took orders or with whom he combined is quite apparent" said Alcorn.
 Olsen denied to Hickey that he took sums of money from the bank to various individuals, continued AL corn, but finally admitted that he did such things. T did, so what but so did somebody else," Alcorn said Olsen finally told Hickey. But he didn't say who the somebody else was."
 Another instance of Hickey's con- versations with Olsen was described by Alcorn as having been attended by Harry Mackenzie. Olsen, quesA toned by Hickey, said to Mackenzie. T don't want to put you in the mid- dle," but Mackenzie told him to go ahead and talk, according to Alcorn.
 And they say no conspiracy" commented Alcorn.
 Another statement by Olsen to Hickey was, Alcorn said, "I'm in up over my knees noW-What do you want me to do go in, over my head. I've told you enough. You'll get no more discriminating evidence out of me-"
 Alcorn also described Olsen's statement to Henry s. Seeley, former president of the Waterbury Trust Go. that "Olsen would be out on limb if Leary left town"
 If this Is group of conspiracies instead of one, it is' the greatest CO., incidence that all members were concerned about every other one," said Alcorn.
 He referred to Olsen's statement, I'm ready to take the rap."
 "Is that the statement of an in- nocent mann" he cried. "He might as well have told MT. Hickey Yes. conspired with these people, -"
 Alcorn claimed that Olsen implied that if Leary did not post his bond there might have been fireworks. But apparently the bond was post ed, for no more came from the lips of Olsen," he said.
 Donate Pietraroria, Alcorn said, told Hickey that he had seen checks drawn to his order. Peters. or Piet- raroria told Hickey to Just find out who put my names on the checks" He claimed the name was forged, Alcorn said.
 But later, Peters came to Hickey and said, I'm ready to take the rap. That was my indorsement on the checks all right, but all l got was $35 week."
 Alcorn, in a low voice, said to the jury, Think of 1t, $72,000 to Peters, $72,o0o payable to Peters. :. And all he got was $35 week."
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 "They went to Bristol to import tavern keeper to indorse their checks, and all he got was $35 a week." said Alcorn.
 And when Hickey questioned Pet CTS about who got the rest, Alcorn said, Peters replied that "The man was good to me, won't tell you who got the balance. was told to say a man named Larson got the money and he's dead.
 Later, Peters said, under ques- tioning by Hickey, T want to see if my bond is posted. If 1t isn't I'm going to talk" But Peters didn't talk, said Alcorn.
 All that Hickey could learn from Frank J. Burns Santalucia was that he had a safe deposit box in New York, and that Phil Coppeto had one too."
 T wonder what was in it," said Alcorn. ..+
 That's all he had to say" con- tinued the youthful prosecutor. If he was engaged in an honest busi- ness with the city, what would there have been to conceal.
 But he wouldn't talk with the man who was Investigating irregular tiles in the city of Waterbury.
 Hickey tried to find Phil Coppeto, but he couldn't, continued Alcorn. and Borgnaes left the country shortly after a conference with Leary and Herman J. Weisman. Borgnaes is defendant who has never been apprehended.
 And Hickey tried in vain to find Leary," to talk with him." said AL corn.
 "Off the Record"
 When Hickey talked with Purdie, the latter said, "I'll talk with you but it will have to be off the rec ord" Alcorn, his voice rising to higher pitch than he used during the arguments yesterday, said that Hickey refused to listen to of the record statements.
 "Is that the attitude of a man who has nothing to conceal?" asked Alcorn with reference to Purdie. He might have agreed to sit down and talk to Hickey, saying, I'm a de- tective, like yourself, not so good perhaps, but was called here to work"
 Everyone of the defendants with whom Hickey talked conducted him. self in\ the same way" said Alcorn. One conspiracy, ladies and gentle- men, what else can 1t be?"
 Several conversations between AL corn and Simon J. Alderman of New Haven we're described. in which Al- derman dpld Hickey that he had ac-