The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-04-14

Counsel for defense takes turn in. cross-examining Harry E. Mackenzie, state witness.
 0. And, of course, MT. Mackenzie if you didn't see the face of the check, you couldn't have known the amount that appeared on the face of the check, could you? A. Yes.
 Q. You could, when you didn't see it? A. Yes. o. Did you take someone's word for it? A. Yes, sir. Q. Dut you have no personal knowledge by use of your eyesight as to what appeared on the face of the check Is that right? A. That's right.
 o. Now, you testified that irI March 1895 that there was $9,00C payment made. Remember that? A. Yes.
 e. And you remember that you testified that you didn't remember the circumstances under which it was paid-you don't know whether you were present or not? A. No. 0. You don't know whether or not MT. Williamson got the entire 5000?
 A. He said he got S4500. Took His Word
 Q. You took his word for it?
 A. That's right.
 O. And you have no definite per. Sonal knowledge as to whether he got the entire $9000. Is that correctG
 A. know that he didn't.
 e. Now, you testified on youl direct examination as to the pay. ment of $3400 in April 1895. Do yor recall that?
 A. Yes, sir.
 @. And do you recall in your tes. timony that you said you thought you were present when the payment was made?
 A. said that was present.
 o. Didn't you say in your direct examination T think I was pres ent?"
 A. I think said was present.
 o. Now, you testified further on direct examination, did you not, that sometime in January 1887 that you got call from MT. Williamson to go to Waterbury. Is that correct?
 A. Yes.
 Q. There is no doubt in your mind that you came to Waterbury at the suggestion of MT. Williamson. Is that right?
 A. Yes, sir.
 o. You didn't suggest to MT. Will liamson that he go to Waterbury is that right?
 A. That's right.
 o. And if MT. Williamson said you suggested that you go to Wa terbury in the first instance, would you disagree with him?
 A. would.
 0. Then you testified that there was payment, I think, in March 1887 to which you said that you had no personal knowledge about that payment. Is that right?
 A. Right.
 Not Present
 O In other words, that you weren't present when it was paid? A. Right.
 o. And that you took MT. Will liamson's word for what he said he got.
 A Yes.
 o. And you had no personal knowledge as to what he really did get?
 A. That's right.
 Q. Only what he told you. Is that correct, MT. Mackenzie?
 A. That's correct.
 o. Now, at the outset of your di- rect examination when answering MT. Alcorn's questions, he asked you in substance whether or not you were prepared to tell your story to this jury on the witness stand? Do you recall that?
 A. Yes, sir.
 o. And you remember he said regardless of consequences to your self" Is that right?
 A. Yes, sir.
 o Well, now, what consequences did you anticipate?
 A. I don't know.
 o. Well, did you know what the phrase regardless of consequences to yourself" indicated to your mind when you were asked the question?
 A. think SO. @. And what was 1t?
 A. Something might happen to me.
 c. That is, you expect to go to jail? A. I hope I don't. Has Been Punished Q What kind of punishment could you anticipate could come to you beyond being sent to prison?
 A. What I have been through al- ready is punishment.
 o. And on account of what you have been through already, the State should be willing to call it quits?
 A. I wouldn't pass on that.
 o. What was your thought on the matter?
 A. Well. told my lawyers to work it out.
 Q. What do you mean by your lawyers working it out? A. l would take their advice.