The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-07-06

WILLIAM hs MURRAY Formerly one of the accused in the
 conspiracy trial, Mir. Murray is
 now assisting defense counsel in
 its fight.
 brought the checks to you in bundles he also had his own list of un- numbered checks? A. I heard MT. Cronan say SO but that isn't so.
 Q. MT. Cronin isn't correct?
 A. MT. Cronin made an error. Q. When he said Mir. Dunn had list of checks of his own, MT. Cro- min, your associate, made a mistake? '?
 A. Right.
 c. Well. Didn't you see MT. Dunn with any papers at all, aside from the bundle of checks?
 A. When MT. Dunn came up c. Cans you answer that? Made List A. I want to answer the question Let me answer 1t the way I can answer the question. When MT. Dunn came up to the sheriff's off, flee, he didn't have a list. All he had was the cancelled checks. He made a list while he was in the office. c. Oh, he made a list, then, did he?
 A. That's right.
 c. List of what? A. Unnumbered checks.
 Q. MT. Dunn made a list of the unnumbered checks?
 A. That's right.
 e, Did you make a list of the un- numbered checks? A. No, sir. If was handling checks at the time, I would make a notation but didn't go definitely from any part of my work to make & list of checks.
 Q. Then he went through the list to get the unnumbered checks? A. He went through the whole list. Before he got the checks, he made the list.
 o. He made the list before he went into the room? A. No, sir. He made 1t in the room. I told you that.
 O. And he made the list from tho bundle of checks he brought there;
 A. Right.
 e. Certainly. Pretty big bundle was 1t not? A. Well, in comparison with the bundle before us, 1t was a small bundle.
 o. Didn't he have all the unnum- bered checks in one bundle2
 A. That I don't know because I didn't see the checks until he was through with them. That is, I didn't finger them myself. I can't say whether he had them all in one bundle or whether he had gone through the list.
 e. He had the warrants payable book there at the same time?
 A. That morning. But I'm not quite sure whether he had the war. rants payable book there at the time MT. Dunn brought up those checks.
 Needed Books
 e. You couldn't do your work be- cause you couldn't check the checks with the warrants payable book.
 A. That's true. but told you that I didn't start that work until MT. Dunn had finished with his part.
 e. You stayed idle until MT. Dunn had made list from the bundle he brought up7
 A. didn't stay Idle. It didn't take him very long.
 Q. The unnumbered checks were not entered on the warrants pay able register at all?
 A. don't know whether those un- numbered checks were on the war rants payable sheets that day. I hadn't worked on them yet.
 O. You say some. checks number cd in pencil, some unnumbered, and some blank checks?
 A. No number. Don't say blank checks. They had to have the sig- nature.
 c. You made a comment about 1t, didn't you?
 A. Yes, I did.
 c. You said, What sort of book keeping system have they got?"
 A. I didn't make any such com- ment. A bookkeeping system isn't just numbers on checks. There is a lot more information.
 e. Isn't it fact that all the checks MT. Dunn brought up to you were all the checks you used that day?
 A. Yes, it is a fact.
 c. And when you were through with them, what did you do? Did MT. Dunn take them back?
 Brought Back
 A. No, MT. Dunn didn't take them back. That evening. by the way, we kept them. Anyway. they were brought back that evening by MT. Cronin and MT. Alderman.
 e. (Referring to warrants pay able book.) Were some of the sheets out of the books?
 A. No, sir. put all the sheets we were working on that day in the book and brought the entire book downstairs into the vault.
 c. So, you are the one who &C., tually put the loose sheets back into the warrants payable folder. A. When I say loose sheets. dur Ing the day we natuarlly took sheets out of the binder to make 1t easier to work on. e. Do you mean to say you ham dled 5000 checks in a day? A. Just a second on that 5000 checks business. I didn't handle 5000 checks . day. That would be a rath- pr strenuous job. c. You heard Mir. Alderman say soP A. Four people working in teams