The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-04-11
Williamson Patted Self On
 Back For HaDing Good Job'
Witness Test6es That He Under tebuys Exclusive Supervisor Legislative Activities Coss Others Mentioned Today.

I A. Correct. 'i @. I suppose you assumed your opinion was just about as good as any other lawyers opinion when you didn't have facts to proceed on Is that correct? l A. Not any better. Record:
 Q. I'm asking you-in your judg- ment, is it?
 A. Yes.
 o. Now, it appears that some member of the bar in Waterbury oi Carmody and Thoms to have re- ceived $29,000. Did you see them in the general assembly?
 Manufacturers
 A.A Of course, MT. Larkin came around there. The only thing ] knew MT. Larkin was interested ir was manufacturers of the city oi Waterbury. had known MT. Lar kin's father-known him not inti- mately, but I had known him. thought he was interested in man. ufacturers. think saw him there number of times.
 @. Once or twice during 1887? | A. It may have been three oi four times but I didn't know ano don't know now except what is ir the newspapers that he did any leg islative work for the City of Water bury.
 Q. Didn't you talk with any oi them? A. No.
 0. Didn't they talk with you? | A. No. l Q. Did Larkin talk to you about any Waterbury matters?
 A. No. The only thing I remem- Der is Larkin was interested in the manufacturers. 0. If he was interested in the City of Waterbury, he didn't do any thing to attract your attention in tht respect?
 A. No.
 Q. MT. Larkin was in the Car mody & Thoms office? | A. I did suppose he was in the firm of Carmody & Thoms and Larkin had been pretty well known throughout the state and had supposed he had been a member ot the firm. I don't believe I had been in the office three or four times.
 c. During the session of 1887 and after 1885 did you go to Carmody 8, Thoms' office on any Waterbury matter at all?
 A. No.
 Q. Did they come to your ohicei A. No.
 o. Did they or any of them co. operate with you on any measure erecting Waterbury?
 A. No
 o. Talk about it?
 A. No.
 o. Said nothing about it?
 A. Nothing at all
 Duplication
 o. So, if MT. Leary and MT Hayes employed them to take car, of the city of Waterbury matters it was duplicate, wasn't it, of what you were doing for them already? A. I thought was. At least, never had any contact with any lawyer about Waterbury matters. o. We'll pass on to another one Do you know Judge McGrath?
 A. Yes.
 0. Did you see him around the general assembly every session?
 A. Yes, I saw him around the general assembly quite often.
 o. Each session? A. I think both.
 e. Both sessions. Know what he was doing?
 A. Well, don't know.
 0. What was he interested in?
 A. That don't know.
 Q. Did he talk to you about these matters?
 A. No.
 Q. Did you talk with him?
 A. No.
 @. Did he, so far as you know, did he appear before committee in be- half of the City of Waterbury?
 A. That I don't know.
 @. Did you? | Not In the Open
 A. No, I didn't appear in the open. Q. Mackenzie didn't appear be- fore any committee?
 A. No.
 @. Were you asked those ques- tions and did you make those an- swerS? A. Yes.
 @. Did you ever know he was go- ing to a committee meeting?
 A. think not. o. Did you ever know J. Henry Roraback to do that?
 A. No. 0. Go before the committee?
 A. No. o. And in the open? A. No. e. When was the last time you saw him do that?
 A. In 1925-I saw MT. Roraback himself about four or five times on behalf of pending legislation,
 @. Tell me, was there Crows nest in the Capitol then? | A. Not that I know of. c. And Pharmacy Commission room? A. The first pharmacy commis- sion room was there. o. Was Harry Mackenzie around the State Capitol when MT. Rora- bach appeared in the open before a committee? | A. He was around the Capitol at that time. o. Still lobbying?
 A. May have been.
 @. You had no idea whether he was or not. Didn't you? A. No. Record:
 Didn't Appear @. Mackenzie didn't appear be- fore any committee so far as you know?