The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-02-14

pc QrAWn py tue Clty Elefk hlbSN dp- proval of the claim by the board oi finance, and when checks were drawn by the controller, that was outside the regular procedure de. scribed in the charter.
 o. How did you get any knowl. edge of that? (Question by judge
 A. The checks drawn by the city clerk were drawn on a machine that was special for that purpose.
 e. Is that called pin-point ma. chine?
 A. Yes. Any checks drawn or any other machine would not have been drawn in the regular course. o. Did you personally see the cheeks?
 A. Yes.
 0. Did you have any personal knowledge as to what balance hao been approved by the board of fl- nance and what had been in?
 A. Yes.
 e. How did you get that knowl- edge?
 A. From lists approved by the board of finance.
 o. (By CrawfordD What did you mean disapproved by. the board oi finance? Do you have any knowl- edge as to the affairs of the board of finance on bills that were placed on a sheet after they were made payable?
 A. I don't understand you.
 c. How many meetings of the board of finance did you atterdp
 A. One.
 e. Which one was that?
 A. 1930.
 @. And that was the only occa- sion which you have from your per- soral knowledge in which you had any opportunity to know what the board of finance approved or didn't approve, wasn't 1t?
 A. I may not have been there to know what were approved.
 c. How did you know if you weren't there?
 A. The evidence of sheets and the signatures of board members. Q. Suppose there were other claims added to your sheets subse- quent to approval of which they en- dorsed, if they didn't later have those added items? Miscellaneous Bills A. The minutes of the board of finance usually stated miscellaneous bills that were approved. That's all the record there was.
 c. How did you know from War rants Payable sheets that items were not later approved by the board of finance?
 A. The requirement. is that this list be presented to the board of finance. It would be impossible to do so because bookkeeping machines were necessary at board meetings. o. Were there items of payment tbat did not appear on Warrants Payable sheets? A. Yes. | e. How did you know from youi personal knowledge that they were not subsequently, approved by the board of finance? A. The claims listed on the sheets were dated. The bookkeeping machines put the date on the War rants Payable Sheets, and the book keeping machine date is changed every day, so that any claims dated later would show a later date thar the meeting of the board. e. How do you know from youl personal knowledge that they were not subsequently, approved by the Board of Finance? How do you know that? A. I don't recall of ever having seen any record in the meetings ol the Board of Finance that any bills were approved other than thosc that had been submitted at the meetings. @. (By Alcorn)-You were there in the controllers office and were familiar with the duties of his of- flee, were you not? A. Yes.
 o. You also saw the checks as they returned from the bank? A. Yes.
 o. Did you or not make ur reconciliation sheets showing the city,s financial condition from time to time? A. Yes. 0. So that you were familiar witt outgoing checks as well as those that came in? A. was familiar with the check, as they came from the bank.
 e. Will you tell the jury what the system was with regard to tht 1881 unnumbered checks. anc whether or not you spoke to MT Leary about it?
 Explanation
 A. Well I stated short time ago that when checks were issued some time later in 1881 withou approval of the Board of Finance they were issued without mum. Der. Prior to that time numbered checks had been issued without ap. proval of the board.
 c. What system was used witt reference to these checks? (By Judge).
 A. If the checks were not ap. proved by the Board of Finance they were approved without a num- Der. is that correct?
 A. Later on in 1881.
 o. Did they at any time put or a pencil number?
 A. Not when issued.
 c. When was pencil number put on?
 A. At each issuance
 Q. Whether the numbers of these checks did come through without approval of the Board of Finance? Whether they subsequently, increasec in number after 1881?
 A. Yes.
 c. Do you remember any particu- ] lar contractor to whose account or