The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-06-13
Testified That Peters Was Paid Every Week
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told to say ne nad gwen part OA his money to a man named Larson. He said Larson was dead" con- tinued Hickey.
 He told me if his bond wasn't fur- nished he was going to talk" con- tinued Hickey, referring to the day of the arrest of Peters, when some person, who was supposed to fur- nish the bond had failed to appear. Hickey said that he tcok Peters to Hartford, and it was there that the statement about the $35 was made
 The statements made to Hickey after May 20 by Peters were admit ted as evidence only against Peters, for Attorney Sidney Cassell pointed out, the information charges that the conspiracy was in operation only to May 19.
 Released That Night
 After taking Peters to Hartford, Hickey said, he released Peters that night in the custody of his lawyer, who came to his office, with Peters son.
 The county detective told of call ing the office of the George H. Kingsley Company the first or sec ond week of April to inquire about witnesses. He said that he had re- uuested, finally, that Francis B. Troy and Enoch Borgnaes appear before the grand jury April 18.
 Borgnaes Never Came
 Troy and John Meaney appeared, Hickey said, but Borgnaes did not. Meaney submitted a doctors certifi- cate showing that Borgnaes was i'll. The same day, Hickey testified, he went to Hollis, Long Island, where Borgnaes made his home. He was told by Mrs. Borgnaes that her hus- band had gone to Europe and that he was on sick leave with half pay from the accounting company.
 Borgnaes is a defendant in the case, but cannot be located. Hickey said that George H. Kingsley. de- fendant, had admitted to him that Borgnaes was on sick leave, and that he had learned of his trip the day before.
 Nothing About Borgnaes
 On April IA, Hickey said, when he first called to request them as wit nesses, neither Kingsley nor Murray Ssaid anything about Borgnaes' ab- sence, but had agreed to have him come to Waterbury.
 Hickey said he had returned sev- ersl times to New York in search of Borgnaes, had watched his home and had enlisted the aid of the fed eral authorities and other police In the unsuccessful search.
 Coferences With Morgan
 Hickey told of conferences with Timothy Horgan, who has pleaded e1olo contendere, Mayor Frank Hayes, Thomas P. Kelly, Edward G. Levy, Simon J. Alderman, Carl D. Olson, George H. Kingsley, William Murray, John Meaney, Frank Burns Santalucia, Ralph Coppeto, Charles F. Williamson, Harry Mackenzie and Peters.
 Interviewing Mackenzie at his s home in Bethel, Hickey said he was told that Mackenzie worked for Waterbury, but mot directly" He admitted working in the legislature for ..Hayes and Leary," Hickey said, but got his pay from Williamson.
 Talks With Fleming
 A conference with Thomas J. Fleming, superintendent of the city yards was held in March at the city yards in the presence of George Greer, Warren M. Brown and an- ather detective. The conference pertained to records, and Fleming said that all records but payroll sheets were kept at the controllers office, Hickey said.
 Attorney Ralph Coppeto met him in the law library in the county building, Hickey said, and he ques- toned him about the location of his brother, Philip, another defendant. Three or four days later, Ralph told him he had not heard from his bro ther.
 Doing His Part
 sWho is taking care of his fam- ily?" asked Hickey of Ralph. I'm hls brother" was the response" ," sI'm doing my part" MT. Alcorn contended that the absence of Philip Coppeto was a part of the general conspiracy, as he was missing after the grand jury had begun its ses- sion.
 Meets Carl Olsen
 On March g, Hickey said, he met Carl olsen and asked him if he ever took any money to the Dia- 1nond Ginger Ale Go. from the Wa terbury Trust Company. At first, Olsen denied it. said Hickey, but later admitted taking thousands of dollars there. What if I did?" he challenged.
 Hickey at one time had Olsen and Mackenzie together and asked Ol- zen if he had talked to Mackenzie before the grand Jury opened. T did not talk to him." Olsen told Hickey, and then when Mackenzie was brought in, the later said, T don't want to get you in the mid- dIe.D
 Mackenzie Answers Him
 TO this, Hickey said, Mackenzie retorted, aYou can't put me in the middle. Tell him the truth"
 Then Olsen admitted talking to Mackenzie, but asked, ''so whatp"
 rive told enough now." Olsen told Hickey at one time concerning his grand jury testimony, I'm in over my knees. What do you want me to E0. get in over my head?"
 When he interviewed Alderman Hickey said. the accountant had told him that he did little job for { Dan. apparently meaning Leary.
 Didn't Know Whereabouts
 Concerning missing warrants pay. &blc sheets from the city hall. Hick- ~ said Alderman commented, T &uoH it looks bad for me but don't knoW where they are"
 InIks With Frankie Burns
 In his talk with Frankie Burns. |[trch a, Hickey said. he learned Int Burns he'd just returned from EHIorEHHfa E1a where ne had