The Waterbury Democrat., 1939-03-14
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them?
 A. I don't know. | @. Now how mary times a month did you draw checks for your sal- ary?
 A. My own?
 o. For your salary, yes. ! A. I didn't draw them. I received them in the week.
 Q. So you received them, about three or four times a month?
 A. Correct. @. Well, you got your pay check, didn't you, at the time the Board of Finance met and failed to sign these sheets, didn't you? A. Yes.
 Not Illegal
 @. You took that check and cashed 1t, didn't you, although you knew that thn Board of Finance had failed to sign the. sheets. You didn't think you were getting an illegal payment. Did you not2
 A. Payrolls were excepted from the approval of the Board of Fi- nance. They would be approved at a further meeting.
 Q. But you didn't think tha. the payment you got was illegal, did you not?
 A. No.
 @. Will you look down at that meeting in Exhibit 65 where the Board of Finance omitted to sign the sheets and tell me how many symbols you find on those sheets indicating funds?
 A. In every case where there is symbol on the sheet the fund is indicated by symbol and the de- pertinent is written out. | o. Will you run your eye down those sheets and tell us how many different symbols you lind on the warrants payable register sheets?
 A. Probably ten different funds.
 o. Did you find any other symbol there besides the ten different funds and symbols?
 A. There are symbols for ap- propriation items. @. And how many of those sym bols do you find on those sheets?
 A. Probably a hundred or more.
 @. To be able to decide what those symbols are, you would re- quire key book, wouldn't you?
 A. Not in so far as the depart. ment is concerned.
 e. Assuming that member of the Board of Finance looked at those sheets and saw the symbols, would he be able to understand to what fund the symbol referred? A. I'm sure he would not.
 o. He would not. So that as far as those items are concerned on those sheets, the Board of Finance was utterly in the dark as to what the symbols meant. Weren't they? A. Insofar as they referred to appropriations within a fund or within a department.
 e. And if 8 member of the Board of Finance wanted to know what 8 symbol meant, he would have to send for a key book. Wouldn't he?
 A. Yes. | @. Do you know whether or not the Board of Finance was provided with books containing symbols which indicated what those funds stood for? A. I don't know if they were ever provided.
 In The Dark
 e. So that as far as your know ledge goes, the Board of Finance was utterly in the dark as to what the symbols represented on those sheets. Weren't they?
 A. Yes.
 o. And if the Board of Finance wanted to know what the symbols represented, they would have to send for someone like yourself to decide them?
 A. Someone familiar with them. | o. Yes. You were the only one in the office familiar with the sym- bols, were you not?
 A. Oh, no, no. ]! O.. Let me ask you, did you ever or to your knowledge did anyone in the controllers office ever pro- vide Mayor Hayes with book of symbols which would enable him to understand the symbols on the Board of Finance sheets. II A. They were provided for the ClllR4OyNo O1 VAxC COA4uA OAACA Q OAAAkVs I Q. Do you know whether or not Mayor Hayes was ever provided with such book? l A. I don't know. | o. You know he wasn't. Don't you?
 Il A. I can't be sure of that. | e.. Do you know whether Con- troller Leary was ever provided with such book?
 A. I'm not sure. | e. Do you know that Controller Leary depended on the employees of the controllers office to allocate the items and the symbols on the Board of Finance sheets? Il A. Yes, under departments and symbols.
 l e. So that if Controller Leary went to the board of, finance meet ings and those sheets were present. ed to him, he had no way, did he, of knowing what the symbols indi- cated or, the sheets? | A. I don't know how much know ledge he had of the meaning of the symbols.
 Numerous Copies
 e. Well, did you ever provide Controller Leary with a key book which explained what the symbols stood for? | A. Yes. In the beginning there were hundreds of copies made up Each employe had numerous copies and they were distributed to the de- partments, and in later years they were prpared for renewal when new items appeared on the budget.
 e. Did you ever, as an accountant in the controllers once, provide lController I.eary with one of those