Evening star., 1938-10-18
SPY SAYS NAz|S
ASKED FOR DATA
ON j. 5. PLANTS
interests Shifted in 1887
to Armament, Rumrich
Tells Court.
AMBASSADORS NAME
ENTERS IN TESTIMONY
'Wiegand' Had Picture Allegedly
Taken With Dieckhoff at
Embassy, Deserter Says.
Byiie Associated Press,

By lie Associated Press.
NEW YORK, Oct. 18.-The Gov
ernment's star spy case witness
Guenther Gustav Rumrich, Army de-
serter who turned secret agent-told
Judge John c. Knox and Federal
Court jury today that Nazi Germanys
interests shifted from American mill
tary secrets late in 1887 to industrial
information.
He was so informed by two of the
agents with whom he had contact,
Rumrich testified
One OF those, he said, he knew only
Is "Wiegand" the other was Schmidt v
"Wiegand," he said, apparently was
important, for he showed him photo
graph of himself allegedly taken at
the German Embassy in Washington
purportedly in company with Ambas-
sador Hans Dieckhoff ard Capt. Fritz
Wiedemann, adjutant to Chancellor
Hitler.
Due to Agreement.
"Wiegand," he said, first apprised
him of Germany's shifting interest
from military to industrial informa-
ton, particularly that kind which had
to do with American rearmament.
Schmidt" later asked him if he
knew of the new orders, he said.
He said this change of orders was
due to an agreement between some
one in Washington and some one in
Berlin" explained Rumrich, who
pleaded guilty at the start of the trial,
leaving three co-defendants, Erich
Glaser Otto Voss and Johanna Hof-
mann to face trial alone. ...'
He did not say who these parties
were. but said it was shame the order
had been put in effect.
Schmidt asked me if I knew any
one employed in either the Bethlehem
steel plant or the Du Pont plant.
said No, but I would Go my best to
get in contact with some one
He said some of the letters in his
possession were for some one in Brook
lyn and that this party in Brooklyn
was getting $4,000 for certain plans
he or she had provided yev v
Rumrich said he was skeptical, since
he had been receiving only $40 or $50
himself.
Two $1,000 Bills.
Schmidt" showed him the money
In one letter.
1T was two $1,000 bills" Rumrich
said.
THE party in Brooklyn" as Rum
rich referred to the operator there, had
discovered some information about
kind Of gyroscope, and "the plans al
legedly had been sent to the naval war
ministry in Berlin.
The courtroom, packed with specta-
tors and newspaper men and women,
was silent as Rumrich told his story.
In the beginning, he said, resuming
. story he started yesterday, the mys-
terieus Sanders" to whom he was sup
posed to turn over United States Army
and Navy information was very criti-
car' Of his progress.
Asked for Catalogues.
Sanders, he testified, asked him to
send him two catalogues of the United
States Government Printing Office
with list of all Army and aviation
publications.
Rumrich supplied the catalogues.
Sanders replied that I wasn't
prompt enough in complying with his
request" he said. particularly in re-
gard to booklets he requested
The booklets, Pumrich explained,
were confidential military publica-
tions.
The first letter he received from
Sanders, he said, was postmarked
Hamburg, Germany. The others were
postmarked from the New York metro
politan area and were presumably
mailed after being brought here by
some one other than Sanders.
Rumrich said he moved from Brook
lyn to the Bronx and received let
ter from Sanders some time later ask
ing why he had not written.
Received Only $40.
HE said he was very anxious to
contact me-" the witness said. Up to
that time, he said, he had received
only $40 for his work as spy.
He wrote Sanders he was 'in
straitened circumstances and would
have to have financial support" he
(See SPY TRIAL, Page A-4)