Evening star., 1938-11-16
Reds Near Control
OF {. |. 0. ParIey,
Witness Says
SpIit-Up Of U. A. W.
Forecast to Dies
Unit by Pace
By the Associated Press.

By the Associated Press.
John T. Pace Of Detroit, who said
he was a Communist party member
from 1881 to 1894, told House in
vestigators today 1T seems to me
the Communists have about got con-
troll" of the C. I. o. convention at
Pittsburgh.
A witness before the Dies Com
mittee on Un-Ameriean Activities,
Mr. Pace said he was willing to pre-
dict the Communists would split
up" the United Automobile Work
ers' Union, c. I. o. affiliate, because
out of every struggle Communists
want to build up the party In prep
aration for an eventual revolution
They are not figuring on revolu-
ton today or tomorrow" he added
but they are preparing for it when
1t does come. They won't have any
thing to do with any movement they
can't control"
Although he no longer is a Com
munist, Mr.. Pace said he had been
one for so long that he could see
readily how Communists were oper-
ating now.
Concentration Seen in Army.
''The main concentration of the
Communist party is in the heavy
industries and in the Army" he as
serted.
After the Communist party began
its tactics of boring from within
in 1884. Pace said, they began filter
ing into the American Federation OF
Labor first and then into the C. I. O
after the latter was formed.
In 1888, Mr.. Pace said, Commu-
nists made great gains in unions
because of workers dissatisfaction
with general conditions. He added
that the c. l. o. developed so rapidly
that it found itself without a suffl-
cient number of trained organizers
and brought in Communists, think
ing it. could use them for organiza-
ton purposes and then kick them
out"
The result has been the Com
munists have just about been able
to get control" the witness asserted
Instead of their using the Com
munists and then kicking them out
the Communists have just about
been able to get control and kick
them out" .
Bonus March Origin Reported.
Mr.. Pace also testified that Com
munists organized and conducted
the bonus march on Washington in
1882. He said he himself led Michi-
gan bonus marchers to the Capital
and that the march provided an ex-
ample of five Communists leading
$50 veterans.
He said he could recall the names
of only two of the five Communists.
One, he said, was colored man
named Woods. The other was Wal
ter Eiker. who, he said, is active now
in w. P. A. union in Detroit.
Before Mr. Pace testified Chair
man Dies announced that the COM
mittee would defer consideration of
a request that it inquire into the
origin of the Senate Civil Liberties
Committee.
Representative Dies said the three
members Of the committee now in
Washington questioned the pro-
priety of one committee of Congress
investigating another and would not
take final action until the full COM
mittee could meet.
Representative Mosier, Democrat,
of Ohio. committee member sug-
gested yesterday that the Dies COM
mittee subpoena Henry Zon to ques-
ton him regarding an article which
appeared under his name in the
March, 1887, issue of Fight Maya
zine. The article purported to tell
how the committee was conceived at
a meeting attended by liberal and
socially-minded people"
Serious Question Posed.
Chairman Dies explained when
his committee resumed hearings to-
day that the members present con-
sidered that there was a serious
question whether one branch of the
Government mad right to encroach
upon another branch"
Members of the seven-man COM
mittee present were Representatives
Dies. Mason, Republican, of Illinois,
and Mosier.
Long List Made Ready.
The chairman said the commit
tee would ask the heads of the fol-
lowing organizations:
American Federation of Labor
American Legion, Veterans of For
eign Wars. National Grange
knights of Columbus, Masonic Or
der, Daughters of the American
Revolution, Sons of the American
Revolution, B'Nai Birth, German
organizations, Sons of Italy, knights
of Pythias, Odd Fellows, representa-
tives of educational and racial
groups and outstanding clergymen
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