The Waterbury Democrat., 1938-09-08
ATTORNEY J. D. (.
 MURRAY TESTIFIES
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 What He Testified A transcript of his testimony (ir condensed forrO is as follows: MT Dewey is questioning:
 Q-Do you know the defendant James J. Hines?
 Al do. Q-How long have you known him? Al have known MT. Hines for at least Is years.
 Q-Do you know J. Richard Da- wis?
 L-I do. Q-About' how long have you known him?
 A-Approximately, probably, five years. Q-Have you during the last IS years been very friendy with MT. Hines?
 Al have.
 Q-Have you been personal friends?
 Al have. Q-And you were very friendly with J. Richard Davis?
 A-Well, just knew him profes- sionally through trying five or six cases that he retained me to try.
 Q-In the month of June, 1895, shortly before my appointment as special prosecutor by the gover- nor, did you have any case with J. Richard Davis?
 A-Yes, did. was retained by MT. Davis to try a civil action in the supreme court of De Forest vs. Ford.
 Q-And was he conferring with you or were you conferring with him about that retainer in that month?
 Al had gone to his office on a Saturday afternoon to prepare an examination before trial in that case.
 Q-At the conclusion of that preparation in Davis office, what did he say to you and what did you say to him?
 A--Why, MT. Davis said he was going to Long Island to see MT. Hines and that he would drive me home. lived down there in that neighborhood, so said, "all right"
 els that all the conversation that you had in the office on that subject?
 A-That is all I had in the office.
 Q-Did you then go down to the car?
 A-Yes, rode down to Long Is- land.
 Q-When you got down to the car, whom did you find there?
 Al found a person whom l now know as MT. Weinberg, whom l had never seen before.
 Q-George Weinberg?
 A-Yes.
 Q-Yes.
 A-And also a young woman, Miss Dare.
 Q-YeS?
 A-Whom I had not seen before.
 Q-Yes. Then did you all drive somewhere?
 A-Yes, we drove to Long Is- land and we went down to the Rockville Country club.
 Q-What happened there?
 A-Mr. Hines was playing golf and MT. Davis and spoke to him. MT. Davis stated in sub- stance, as recall 1t, that he un- derstood that MT. Dewey's name had been submitted as special prosecu- tor, and he said to MT. Hines, Jim Murray knows more about Dewey than I do. What kind of guy is he?" Well" I said, he is a rough, tough. relentless prosecutor" I said. T defended the first criminal case that he prosecuted in the federal court. and I was of the opinion that he would indict any one that he had any evidence against, re- gardless of who he was.
 Q-What did Davis say then?
 A--Davis said something will have to be done about it."
 Q-Did Davis say anything about the effects of an appointment?
 Ale said that you would indict half the people in New York and destroy them.
 Q--I want to refresh your recol- lection by showing you your state ment to me in the office and ask you if that refreshes your recollec- ton about exactly what he said when he said what would happen. I refer to right here (indicating).
 A-Yes; he said in substance if something isn't done about 1t he will destroy all of us.
 Q-"All of us?"
 A-Yes.
 G-What did Hines say to that?
 A--Well he didn't say anything at first. and then he said. we