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La gaceta., 1937-11-06
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The Tampa Morning Tribune, in its issce
of Sunday October 24th, in an editorial, common
ting the visit of Governor Cone of Florida to
Mayor La Guardia of New York, uses a phrase
which any person with average intelligence can
surely interpret as a SLAM at the Mayors
Italian origin.
We do not take issue in the matter of the
visit and what was published about it, which,
after all, has been branded as false by a member
OF the Governors party, but we must say that
it is unfortunate that the Editorialist of the
Tribune, a paper which has only received
friendship and cooperation from the Latin people
of Tampa, should take advantage of every op-
p~ortunity to make insinuations that hurt their
feelings and their pride. Of late we have seen
published several innuendos against US and we
frankly confess we do not understand the Tri-
bGne's attitude.
We have been friends of that publication
and together we have labored, for many years,
towards the progress of this City, and we see
no reason for that, so evident, luminosity towards
the Latin people from a paper which for so long
and so consistently we have favored with our
patronage.
Our people helped to build and help to main
(Tomado del Boletin de la Uni
La gaceta., 1937-11-06
~iAPRETEMoS LAS FILAs!
Especial para La Gaceta'

Especial para La Gdcetd"
cludadanos del mundo, proIetsrios del orbe,
enemiao atsca con furla y decision;
despelsmos n~Osotros TODD aauello que estorbe
las Was del proofess De Husstra redenei66n.
Pretenden Imponernos 81 yusO ssOlavi1ante
y que seamos parias por tempo Indefinldoj
dondo 81 obFero sea un prOduotor oonstante,
sin hueIOas nj ~protestas Dor verse redImido.
Los despotas del Mundo, seguIdos de ~yIcarIos,
estan todos unldos contra los iibertarios
que Iuchan en- Espaha por I'm Mundo nieIor;
iApretemos las illas, camaradas hermanos;
reforcsmoA ~valiontes los braves mlIiolanos,
y Que no faIte nadis en- su puesto de nonor!
LUIS DlAZ.
La gaceta., 1937-11-06

tain this community; their interests here are
varied and extensive; they are useful, industrio-
Us and law-abiding citizens. We have established
and maintain institutions which are an honor
to the City and to the State; we cooperate in
all civic activities, are always in the vanguard
of any movement that tends to the betterment
of the City and to the welfare OF its inhabitants,
and VIZ are a most important factor in its eco
nomic life and structure.
Why then should we constantly be the "butt''
Of unjust and uncalled for insinuations?
On several o~ccasicn the Managing Editor
of the Tribune has personally expressed his
friendship and good will toward the Latin people
to some of the leaders of our Colony, but the
inconsistency of the editorials and their insi-
mutations which hurt Us, with those expressions,
may seem to belle their sincerity.
We have been friends of the Tribune and
we wish to continue so, but we must rem.nd it's
publishers and editors of the fact that friend
chip cannot be one sided. You cannot expect
friendship to survive constant at unfound-
ed and Unjust criticisms. You cannot ex-
pect to receive "boCquet5' when you hand out
'brickbats'.
~TtaIianal
La gaceta., 1937-11-06
TOMARON POSSESSION LOS
NUEVOS MIEMBROS DE
LA N MUNICIPAL E.
LECTORAL

A las once de la manana de
hoy, en- la casa consistorial, to-
maron possession los dos nuevos
miembros de la Junta Munich
pal Electoral, Sres. Ben E. Da-
Wis y Fred J. Woods.
Sustituyen a los sefiores Ro-
bert E. Carter y E. E. Nelson,
Jr.
lntervino en- la ceremonial ell
abogado consultor del ayunta-
miento, Alfonso McMullea.
La gaceta., 1937-11-06
CORTE DEL CIRCUITo

Disolvio hoy Ell juez Parks
ell jurado que oyera las evi :
dencias en- la raclemaci6n de
$1,000 hecha por los esposos
Luciono Vazquez contra la
compania de seguros del esta-
do de Pennsylvania, por incen
dio.
FL jurado no pudo llegar a
I'm acuerdo.
La gaceta., 1937-11-06
DOS vAPOREs

San Francisco, Nov, Clos
yapores Makawao y Absaro :
ka chocaron hoy en- ell Golden
Gate, sufriendo ell primero a.
verias de importancia.
Ell guardacostas Shokone lie
tir6 un cable al Makawao, lle-
vandolo hasta un dique donde
sera feparado.
La gaceta., 1937-11-06
LOS BANDIDos EN- ACCION


Un bandido arrebat6 aver u
ma cartera con $50 a la Sra,
Otis Brown, vecina de la casa
n1mero 5000 de la Gale OAR
mouth, euando 4sta Sc dirigia
a su casa, luego de haber puesto
en- la cochera su atom6vil.
Ell hombre la orden6 que no
Sc moviera Y ella ,temiendo es-
tuviera armada, lie obedeci6.
No pudo dar a la policia una
description del criminal.
La gaceta., 1937-11-06
A D. MARCHING DOMINGO

Como emisario simb6lico
del gran Frente Popular,
ell pueblo fue a la Polar,
a Dir tn verbo apost6lico.
Por ell discUrso triunfal
Cuba y Espana, hermanadas,
Sc sintieron abrazadas
a nuestro hermoso ideal.
Ilustre Don Marcelino:
tn labor de peregrino
en- pro de Espana Leal,
con persuasivos conceptos
nos va conquistando adeptos
" apoyo International.
Luis D50z.
La gaceta., 1937-11-06
C~ONDENADO- A MUERTE
Ell ASESINO DEL CONDE

Beirut, SRA, nov. 6.-El a.
sesino del consul americana
Teodoro Mariner, M. Kara
yam, fue aver condcna3o a muer
te. Los medicos norman que
no tenia trastc -das sus facul
tades mentales.
La gaceta., 1937-11-06

do tn vapor msrcante, de nacio-
naiidad desconocida, o." ell Me-
diterraneo.
La aviacion leal trio bombas
de profundidad contra Ell subma
rino, creyendose que fue hun
La gaceta., 1937-11-06

Karayan mato al consul por
suponer que este lie habia dene-
gado un pasaporte para rotor
mar a los Estados UnidoS.
La gaceta., 1937-11-06
Ell TEMPO

Claro para esta noche y ell
domingo. POGO cambio en- la
temperature. Maxima aver, 70
grades; minima, 50.
La gaceta., 1937-11-06
FACCTOSOS
~HUNDIERON UN VAPOR

Valencia, nov. 6.-Don In
dalecio Prieto. m~inistro de de-
fensa, did la noticia de que sub
marines piratas habfan hundi
La gaceta., 1937-11-06

(Tomado del Boletin de la Unione TtaIiana)
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
JUDGE issues
PROBATE ORDER

Order of probate in the matter
of the last will and testament and
the first codicil of Ella Louise
Albury was issued by County
Judge Raymond Lord yesterday,
and letters testamentary, to Ella
Mary Carlstedt as executor, were
also issued.
The will was filed for probate
on December 2, 1886, and was
later sent to Washington for sig
natures which were attached as
follows: Helen NJ Sweeney, Mary
E. Browne, and Erma Bush, at
testers to the will; first codicil at
tested by Catherine v. Moran,
Charles D. Neal, Lillian E. Neal.
The papers were admitted to
record as having been satisfac-
torily proved.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
CUBA ARRIVES
FROM HAVANA
VESSEL LEFT LATE IN AFT.
ERNooN ENRoUTE
TO TAMPA

Steamship Cuba, of the P. and
O. Steamship company, arrived
yesterday afternoon from Ha-
vana with 10 first and six second
cabin passengers for Key West
IS first and three second cabin
passengers for Tampa.
Key West arrivals: De Witt c.
Care, Mabel w. Claary, Sidney s.
Holt Water S. Atwood, William
H. Balm, Milton Botsford, Effie
Botsford, Mitchell NJ. Liebsmann.
Florrie Liebsmann, Sam Bank
er, Eleanor Banker, Maurice S.
Byewater, Alice Byewater, Joseph
Stewart, Emil Smith. Frederick ],
q y = E e. -
Hutton, Dorothy H. Hutton, Fred
erick Hutton, Jr., Charles Gilby,
Adolfo Rearas, Herbert Freder-
icks, Arthur ]. Young, John Rlbic,
Otto Bothew. Blon6cl Hancock.
The vessel sailed $50 O'Clock
with the following bookings fiom
this port: Henry Stucbing, Nor.ta
Stuebing, C. A Parramore, M. P.
Rumsey, A. II. Garfield, Mrs. Can
field, Mrs. I. H. Estahrook, Mis-
C. S. Perkins, T. H. Tczier, ]. NJ
Cragon, Roy Cragon.
Powers Arrives In Port
The power boat Powers, Cap
tain Veral Roberts, of the Over
seas Transportation Company, ar
rived in port this morning from
Miami with ten tons of freight
for Key West.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
AUTOMOBILE
ALL ABLAZE
CHEMICAL ExTINGUIsHER is
USED TO PUT OUT
FIRE


About 2::30 this morning Off.
Ger Franklyn Arenberg, Of the
police department, had his atten-
ton called to an automobile com,
ing north on Duval street with
fire leaping from all sides and the
driver seated at the wheel.
As the car came to a halt the
driver was assisted to leave the
car and made strenuous efforts
to extinguish the flames by blow
ing on them, but as the flames
were just a trifle to fierce to adj
nit of extinguishing in this man,
ner, the driver desisted.
In the meantime members OF
the fire department had been
called by Officer Arenberg and
arrived on the scene. one of their
number, Cotton Parks. bringing a
chemical extinguisher. BY the
use OF the liquid the flames were
subdued. The name Of the driver
OF the car was not learned.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
Henry AtWell Seventh
Member OF Family Who
Met Death By Burning

Funeral services for Henry
Livingston Atwell, who came to
his death yesterday by being badly
burnt, will be announced upon the
arrival Of a brother, Eddie Atwell
from Miami.
The body is now at the Lopez
Funeral Home and the services
will be held from the homes
chapel. Rev. NJ. L. Smith, OF
Ley Memorial church, viii Of
ficiate.
Palbearers will be w. j.
Schoneck, Wilbur johnson, Willis
Brady, Leroy Sawyer, Harry
Shaw and John Fleming, all of
whom are associates OF Paul At
we'll, SON of the deceased, EN-
ployed at the lighthouse depart
nnent.
Mr.. Atwell is survived by his
widow, Mrs. Maggie Atwell. one
daughter Mrs. Yvonne Warren,
one son, Thomas Paul .Atweh,
four brothers, Thaddeus, Charles,
Eddie and Albert Atwell, and two
sisters. Mrs. Mary Tiff. Miami.
Mrs. Ida Lowe, Key West.
Henry L. Atwell is the seventh
member of this Atwell family to
meet death by burning, che others
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
NYA Executive Director
Gives Facts Concerning
Aid Sought By Students

Applications for student aid in
American colleges this year have
been more than twice as great as
the number who could be helped
under the appropriation of the Ma
tional Youth Administration, Au-
brey Williams, executive director,
announced recently.
Williams said that summary
of information received from more
than four-fifths of tho colleges
end universities offering NYA as
s:stance to its students revealed
that applications exceeded permits
sible quotas by 116,339-a ratio
of 2.17 to /.
Not all institutions maintained
records of their applicants, it was
pointed out, but those which had
reported that of 215,334 young
men and women who sought such
aid this year, only 9S,995 could
be provided for.
1--WE cannot be certain what
happened to those who had to be
turned down." Mr.. Williams de-
clared, "but it goes without say
ing that many of them either had
to forego college entirely or re
sort to the most dire economics in
order to attend.
Experience has shown us that
relatively few young people ask
for student aid unless they actual
ly need it. Those who are accept
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
.STREEPERS COME
HERE FOR VISIT
ARE GUESTS AT HOME OF
CAPTAIN AND MRS.
cHAs. ARCHER

Mr.. and Mrs. William streaper
and their daughters, Misses Anna
Mae and Peggy, Of Fort Lauder
dale, arrived tbs week for their
regular visit and are guests at the
home Of Captain and Mrs. Charles
Archer, GIL Caroline street.
The Streepers have been regu-
lar visitors in Key West each
year over ong period and feel
that season without a visit to
the Archer home and thu congenial
surroundings, is a seasons pleas
ure lost.
There is also another visitor at
the Archer home. This is Mrs. L.
v. Waldron, daugter of Mr.. and
Mrs. Archer, who came from her
home at Deerfield to spend while
with her parents and friends.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03

were his son, Henry L. Atwell,
Jr., Olive ". Atwell, wife, and
four children Dorothy Mae, Sylvia
Louise, Henry Vernon, and Gerald
Kenneth, who met death in the
raging flames when the home at
Fiagler Avenue and Leon street
was burned to the ground Friday
morning July 5, 1895. How the
fire started was never known.
Shortly before 4 o'clock in the
morning a telephone call was re-
ceived at fire department head
quarters and the apparatus at
once responded. When they ar
rived on the county road the rag
ing flames could be seen. BY the
time they reached the scene of
the fire the house was destroyed.
About $50 in the morning the
debris had cooled sufficiently to
be searched. The bodies were re-
covered from the smouldering
ruins, but were completely I'M
recognizable.
The following day funeral serv-
ices were held. The bodies Of
Henry and his wife were placed
in one casket and the bodies of
the four children were placed in
another. Both caskets were low
cred into the tomb simultaneously.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
Luis Torres Arraigned;
Being Held For Trial

Luis Torres, alias Santa Claus,
was arraigned for preliminary
hearing yesterday afternoon be-
fore Peace Justice Enrique Es-
quinaldo, Jr., on charge OF
breaking and entering the place
of business operated on Duval
street near the Cuban Club by
Jesus Carmona.
After hearing the testimony as
offered by the witnesses, the COM
hitting magistrate stated he found
sufficient cause to warrant the ac-
cused being he'd for trial and
placed him under bond of 5000 to
await trial at the next term OF
criminal court.
Torres was arrested early Sat-
urday morning by Captain Alberto
Camera, of the Key West police
force, who was called to the scene
by Mr.. Carmona and went in conf
pany with Patrolman Tom Bor-
cheff.
The accused had entered the
premises and was afraid to come
out as the owner of the pace
had fired one charge from a shot
gun VIII Oh frightened Torres to
such an extent that he remained
to be captured. it was said, rather
than take a possible chance at be
ing shot.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03

ed are almost always the sons and
daughters of low-income families
for whom a college education 9TH
erwise would be impossible"
Average benefits for college and
graduate students under the NYA's
program of student aid are set al
SIS and $25 per month respec-
lively. All benefits are paid in
the form of wages for work per-
formed on projects set up by the
school authorities.
Williams pointed out recently
that the NYA is extending help to
approximately ten percent of the
co lege's population this year at
an average monthly cost of about
$1,869, 900. Figures were released
which showed that a total of 124,-
81S undergraduate and graduate
students enrolled under the stu
ent aid program in 1886 colleges
and universities throughout the
country.
While the ratio of applicants to
students accepted for assistance
is 2.17 to /. for the nation as a
who.e, many states show much
wider disparit:es. Florida has Is
institutions participating in the
NYA scholarship program and is
allowed a quota of 1000 students.
The applications in this state for
the current college year number
ed 1924 or ratio of 1922 to 1.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
F. T. M'Nulty's Will
Is Filed For Probate

mentions all real and personal and
mixed property.
I'm making this provision"
another section OF the will reads.
II have taken into consideration
all my relatives"
Sheriff Karl o. Thompson was
appointed executor and Il l. d.
rected that no bond BE- required eg
him.
The instrument wins witnessed
ny Allan B. cleare. Jr.. and Joha
G. Lord.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03

The fast win and testament of
Francis Theodore McNulty, who
died Sunday morning at the family
home, go Francis street. was
filed yesterday for probate in the
court OF County Judge Raymond
Lord.
1t sets forth that all indebted
ness against the estate be paid,
and bequeaths the entire estate
to his sister, Mrs. Mary A. Wing
ham, 3O17h Florida Avenue
Tampa, Florida. It specifically
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03

Commander Bragg Due
To Arrive Tomorrow

Commander Kenneth 1. Bragg,
U. s. N. is due to arrive in Key
West tomorrow from Charleston
for the purpose of looking over the
progress Of the work at the naval
station.
It is expected that the com
mander win remain in the city IN
til Saturday and win with Lieu
tenant VIM. Klaus, check up q
the different projects and compile
a report of the accomplishments
under the WPA and navy setup.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
Key West Wholesalers
Melted Over Million
Dollars During 1895
Figures Revealed In Re-
port On Sales As Com
piled By Washington
Census Bureau
By PAUL May

tspeetai Wnshington Correspondent
OF The CitIxen)
WASHINGTON, D. c., March
s.-ksy Vests position as :
Wholesale center was, strengthened
during 1885, when the eity's ie
wholesale estabIishments did :
business amounting to sl,32s.OoC
in net sales, according to the
census bureau.
Key Vests wholesale establish,
ments gave employment to ar
average of 81 persons for the
year, not counting s active
proprietors in the wholesale bust.
ness. Key Vests wholesale pay.
roll for 1885, exclusive of com.
pensation for active proprietors
was $6s,00O, including both full
time employees and part time
workers.
Key Vests wholesale business
was mo9e than two thirds of the
total for all Monroe county, the
census figures show. Monroe coun.
~ did a total wholesale business
OF $780, 900 in 10 establish.
ments. The payroll for the coun-
tvs Wholesale businesses was s73,.
600 for 65 employees both full
and part time, NOT counting 8
active prOprietors.
The state summary reported q.
2S9 wholesale establishments OF
all types. with net sales for the
year OF $500. 100000, total pay.
rolls Of S21,S45,00O and giving
employment to an average OF 49,
573 persons for the year. Florida
had i,005 whofesale proprietors
active in their businesses.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
.HMAsoNie NOTICE

Dade Lodge No. IA. F. & Al. NJ,
will meet in regular communica-
ton at 1880 p. m. in Scottish
Rite Hall, corner Eaton and Simon
ton streets. Work in the F. C,
Degrees. Visiting brethren and
members OF sister lodges cordially
invited to attend.
VIM. WENDELL, w. NJ.
F. o. WEIGH, Sec.
mar3-1t
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
DEAD CARRIER
PIGEON FOUND

A dead carrier pigeon was pick
ed up on the highway near Big
Pine bridge on Monday by Cap
tain B. E. Calkins. 1t wore an
aluminium band on one leg in
scribed, "1267, S. C. Habana,
&c."
On the other leg was a yellow
ce,luloid ring with no markings
and a broad rubber band marked,
"S28-V, 772," an ae
The pigeon was still warm
when discovered. arr
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
NAME OMITTED
in FLOWER SHOW

One of the blue ribbon awards
made at the recent Key West
Flower Show was for a hooked
rug which was an excellent piece
of work, and beautiful.
This was the offering of Mrs.
Melvin Russell, and its omission
from the list of exhibits and
awards was entirely inadvertent.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
PETREL BRINGS
in SICK man
PLACED IN MARINE HosPI.
tai UPON ARRIVAL AT
THIS PORT

Tug Petrol of the Porter Dock
company, was called by radio last
night to contact the Steamship AL
bert Hill, bound from Philadel-
phia, Pa, to Atreco, Texas.
The Petrol returned from the
trip having on board Vern Stra-
han, seaman from the steamer.
who was i'll and sent ashore for
disqualification in the Marine Hos
pital.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
Car Plunges Into Water;
DriverF0und Unconscious

Hinde. Finding the driver uncon-
scious, the two youths removed
him from the car and in a short
time he recovered from the shock.
They also notified a local
garage and the car was removed
from the water.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
OOOOOssOeOessseseeeosaee

A Key West winter visitor es-
caped serious injury Monday eve
ring when the car which he was
driving leaped over the boulevard
into the war.
The accident was discovered by
John Dyson, Jr, and Frederick
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
SAWYER NAMED
ADMINISTRATOR

County Clerk Ross C. Sawyer
was yesterday appointed admin
istrator of the estate of his father,
Frederick Robert Johnson Saw
yer, who died Friday night, Feb
ruary 20, after a brief illness.
The order appointing Mr.. Saw
yer as administrator was signed
yesterday by County Judge Ray
mond Lord.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
PABLO LEAL, 46,
DIED YESTERDAY
FUNERAL SERVICES WILL BE
CONDUCTED THIS
AFTERNOON

Pablo Leal age 46, died yester-
day afternoon in the residence
near 618 Fleming street. Funeral
services will be held this after
noon 5 o'clock frc@S the chapel OF
Pritchard's Funeral Home. Rev.
j. Perez will offieiate.
The deceased is survived BY
one sister, Mrs. Jennie Betan-
court.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
COUNTY BOARD
MEETS TONIGHT

Regular meeting of the county
commissioners will be held this
evening 8 o'clock in the clerks
office at the county court house.
As this is the first meeting of
the month there viii be number
of matters to be discussed, and
all the regular routine business to
be handled.
The Key West citizen. [volume] (Key West, Fla.) 1879-current, 1937-03-03
) Los On
Ei ;sr.lk!afa WA ELLINGTON

be settled by conference between
the two houses. Generally, the
President and Secretary of State
Gordell Hull have opposed rigid
mandates from Congress, prefer
ring some latitude in the event OF
foreign wars.
President Roosevelt is known to
be considering legislative meas.
ure to regulate working hours and
wages. He has discussed the for
mutation of definite proposals.
with Secretary Perkins, other gov
ernmental officials and labor lead.
ers. In statement last week, Mr..
Roosevelt said he had also dis
cpssed the situation with business
leaders. 1t is understood that fair
trade practices and methods Of
control are being considered By
other. groups. No idea. was given
as to when the program might be
presented to Congress for action.
Miss Perkins, asked about the SUI
preme Courts probable reception
of such proposal, explained that
constitutional questions had not
been considered. Apparently, the
Administration plans to go ahead
with its legislative program re-
CARELESS of the outcome of the
Courts reorganization.
The problem of gold stocks con-
tinues to worry governments. III
1914, when the World War began,
there was about four billion dol
: lars of monetary gold in the
world. In 1929 there was about
, ten billion dollars worth and. to-
day, measured in current dollars,
the monetary gold of the world
is close to $22, 1000, 100000. More
significant is the distribution of
world stocks. In 1914, the United
States held about $1,6O0,00O, 900
in gold. BY 1929, it had four bill.
lion dollars worth, and today,
about 1,OOO,OOO,OOO, or more
than the whole world had in 1929.
Our revaluation of the dollar,
on January 81, 1884, boosted the
value of the gold in this country
from $4,033,OO0,O 1000 to $685.
100000, a gain of $2,80O,000,-
600. However, Since that day when
there was something of a panicky
flight of capital which was
/ weakening our banking system,
upward of four billions dollars in
gold have poured into this country
from all quarters of the world, in
F, addition to receipts from our
mines and other sources. Readers
of this column are familiar with
/ the various steps taken by none
tary authorities to guard against
initiation, However, the gold con-
/ tinues to come into this country
at a'rate equal to che entire world
production of the metal-more
than one billion dollars worth a
j year. The problem still confronts
cur financial experts and the
answer does not seem very clear.