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The Western news. [volume] (Libby, Mont.) 1933-current, 1937-05-20
Honored ut 6 o'clock Banquet.

Worthy Grand Matron Ruth Ping of
the state of Montana was honored at
a o'clock banquet given at the Metho-
dist church last Thursday evening.
Beautiful bowls of spring flowers
with lighted colored candles in their
midst and the various colored formal
gowns made very picturesque scene.
Place cards at the honored table had a
picture Of the worthy grand matron and
worthy matron, Grace Clay of Kootenai
Chapter.
A mothers and daughters program
was given which was very impressive.
Mesdames D. F. Fewkes and Charles
Cone rendered lovely violin duet,
Loves Old Sweet Song" accompanied
at the piano by Mrs. J. B. Farris. a
rose march was held in which daugh-
ters in the Eastern Star presented q
rose to their mother. The daughters
who belonged to the Eastern Star also
recited bit of poetry as they present
ed the flower TO their mother. The
Eastern Star quartet composed of Mes
danes E. A. Angel, Fewkes. Cone and
Lee Kensler sang. Mother, My Dear,
accompanied by Mrs. Farrfs. ruth
Crush gave reading entitled, DAD
Says So Anyhow
Outside visitors were Mrs. William
Shand, past worthy matron, and Mrs
Shad Wallace Of Spokane; Mrs. Mckair
Of Eureka, grand representative Of Ne
braska. Miss Jessie Staudacher, worth,
matron, ]. T. Brindley, worthy patron
Mrs. M. D. Rowland, past worthy grant
matron Of Montana: Mesdames r. "
LeDuc, Paddock and Turner of Libby
MIR. and Mrs. Walt Conner, past worthy
matron and patron, and p L, Sherman
past worthy patron Of Whitefish-
The dinner was served BY the Junio
Ladies Aid Society
The Western news. [volume] (Libby, Mont.) 1933-current, 1937-05-20
Holy Trinity Episcopal Church.

Evening services next Monday at 5
D. N. You are cordially invited to
attend
The Western news. [volume] (Libby, Mont.) 1933-current, 1937-05-20

home about l o'clock tired but oh. 50
very happy.
Evening star., 1937-08-08

81 out of every 100 have selected
Wonder Bread over all other brands.
The test is that used by experts themselves
to determine bread quality. Designated mere
Evening star., 1937-08-08
WONDER BREAD HAILED
AS NATIONS FINEST
Chosen Over All Others by 10000
Out Of $4,000 Women
POPULAR BRANDS COMPARED IN
FAMOUS l-2-3 STORE TEST

Nep York, N. Y. Latest
figures on nationwide COM
parison test of bread quality
reveal an overwhelming pref
erence for Wonder Bread.
Women all over America,
5000 of them, have made
the famous 1928 test in gro
cerY stores. Actually l2O. 600
Evening star., 1937-08-08

ly by numbers, a slice from
every loaf in the store is
presented to women. They
make their selection on the
basis of % Seeing and
Feeling, (2) Smelling and
(3) Tasting these slices.
Only then are they told the
brand chosen.
1t is in this fair, impartial
Bread has so completely
women of its superiority
even, close-knit texture L.
"wheaty' fragrance a
Evening star., 1937-08-08

Gus, slO-baked flavor.
The Wonder Bakers have
spent a fortune to give women
bread as fine as this. Every
loaf is made from only choice
ingredients. Every loaf is slo-
baked, to make it more easily
and completely digestible.
Make this famous 1928
Choose the bread that your
Evening star., 1937-08-08

test yourself! Choose the bread that your
own eyes, nose and taste tells you is best!
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09

lent. I heard of six trollers in Sitka which have already cleared $2500.
 "As far as transportation, of course, we are carrying more freight this year despite the fact there is more freighter competition. And our passenger bookings this year have been filled several weeks in ad- vance-and the cancellations which always come have been easily filled by others wishing passage. be- lieve Alaskans are travelling more this year than they did last year" {"
 Strike Dangers
 MT. Semar makes one or two trips to Alaska annually, but mot as many as would like to-" The strike dangers in Seattle have kept him close to home, he said.
 Mrs. Semar, who generally makes the Alaskan voyage every other year, was "so sorry it rained so much this trip because some of the people would have enjoyed themselves more if the weather had been dry
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09
q Depart for
 States s Aboard
 North Sea Today
7 Leave for Southeast AL aska Ports, Y Arrive
 in Juneau on Vessel

Twenty-one persons left Juneau for Seattle aboard the white liner North Sea today at a. m. after the vessel had docked in the local port for 10 hours following a trip to Sitka and return. Seven others boarded the North Sea for South east Alaska ports. The liner brought IT to this port from Sitka.
 Coming to Juneau were Mrs. J. Walmer, MT and Mrs. George Sar- vela, MT. and Mrs. B. F. Ficken, Amy Jackson, Nick Kitka, Leon Reinken, Merle Biggins, Clara Ad- kins, I. A. Thatcher, Eva Mathers, Sherman Baker, F. R. Johnston, E. Gilbertson, and Miss Edith Boyd
 Leaving on the North Sea for Seattle were: Mrs. K. A. McDon- aid, Patricia Gay, Mis- Essie Law son, Erich Nyman, George Obert, l.. A. Clancy, Albert Niles, Virginia Lund, o. A. Olson, Emilia A. Gados, L. D. Golf, Stanley Schulsky, H. R. Wander Leest, Arthur Georig, Paul Whiteside, William and Charles Lester, Frank Shan, L. Weise, J. Leivers and William T. Mahoney.
 Leaving for Southeast Alaska were: Annie Allen, Harvey Will Hams, for Petersburg; Ed harnum, 70. Lilligraven, Ned LemieuX and Elmer JakeWay, for Wrangell; and Frank Torrs, for Ketchikan.
 Aboard the North Sea, in addi- tion to those boarding the vessel here, are "A round-trippers, three persons each for Ketchikan and Petersburg and two persons for Wangell
 The North Sea arrived in Juneau lat 9:45 D. m. Thursday, almost four hours before schedule, be- cause the trip to Taku Glacier was not made as a result of the heavy rain and fog Instead, the vessel steamed to the glacier this morning after leaving port here.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09
E|vida, with Three Attorneys and
 Wives, Docks Here

Three Los Angeles attorneys, and their wives, visited in Juneau to- day while their 115-foot twin-screw diesel engine yacht, the Elvlda, berthed for several hours. The FL vida came from the south at 10:30 a. m.
 Thomas R. Dempsey. owner of the yacht. Mrs. Dempsey, and their two daughters and son in = laws, MT. and Mrs. Wellman T. Thayer and MT. and Mrs. J. c. Herbst, are aboard the Elvida. Dempsey, Thay- CT and Herbst are associated in the law firm, Dempsey and Mackay, specialists in taxation.
 The party left Los Angeles on June 18. They sailed leisurely up the Inside Passage and went into Tracy Arm, where they ran into ice floes. Cities where they berthed in- cluded Sidney, Vancouver, Prince Rupert and Ketchikan.
 Fishing, enjoying the scenery and hoping it would stop raining" were their pursuits on the vacation voy- age, MT. Dempsey said. They have had two clear days since leaving Seattle, he said.
 MT. Dempsey will leave the Elvida in Seattle and fly back to Los An geles in time to return to his desk July 26 The others will sail back to Los Angeles in the yacht
 Capt. Henry Durham, master of the Elvida, has sailed Alaskan wa ters for a score of years.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09

Government scientists who guard wild ducks and geese, will penetrate three regions north of the Arctic Circle this summer in survey of wild fowl nesting grounds.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09
200 ON PRINCE
 GEORGE, WITH
 NONE FOR HERE

With 200 passengers aboard, the Prince George docked in Juneau Thursday for five hours before em- barking for Skagway on the round trip that will bring her back to the local dock Saturday at midnight. No passengers for Juneau were aboard.
 The vessel carried two round-trir parties, each consisting of thirty passengers. Wendell Keith of Villa mette, H., was in charge of the Powers tour, while MT. and Mrs Percy Slingsby of Laton, Calf, con. ducted their own tour.
 The George berthed shortly aftel 6 o'clock Thursday night and lief here at II o'clock.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09
STOCK QUOTATIONS

NEW YORK, July g. IL Closing quotation of Alaska Juneau mine stock today is IFS, American Can 101ss, American Light and Power 9%, Anaconda 55ss, Bethlehem Steel 90%, Commonwealth and Southern 2ss, General Motors 53, Information al Harvester III, Kennecott. 60,- New York Central 4OA, Southern Pacific 48, United States Steel 1087s, Cities Service 3la, Pound $4.95M, Republic Steel 38A, Pure Oil 20, U. s. Treas ury bonds 21ss 97.28, Atchison Gen. eral As 109%.
 DOW, JONES AVERAGES 2 The following are todays Dow, Jones averages: industrials 177.4O, rails 5430, utilities 2818.
 ATTENTION VIKINGS
 Meeting postponed July 10. adv. BY THE COMMITTEE Empire classifieds pay.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09

The average adult evaporates about tenth of pound of mois- ture an hour. Under the influence of an exciting movie melodrama this amount may increase by 50 per cent.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09
Part of Missing
 Plane Found, Sea
Tire and Wheel of Charles Kingsford-Smith Ship
 Is Recovered

AKRON, Ohio, July 9.-A tire and wheel from a broken landing gear, has been found floating off Bur ma in the Andagen Sea. It has been
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09
NOTICE TO CAR OWNERS

Car owners are required to have brakes and lights tested by July 15 next. By order of Chief of Police
 adv
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09
Tourist Season Hurt by Strikes,
 Senlar Declares
Northland Company Man ager, Here on Roundtrip,
 Makes Observations

One little 'if'-labor unrest in the United States is the only thing that can keep vessels from experi- encing a banner tourist and freight season this year." William Semar, General Manager for the Northland Transportation Company, told a re- porter for The Empire Thursday night.
 1 MT. Semar, making his first round i trip this summer to Alaska, is aboard the white liner North Sea, accompanied by his wife, his daugh- ter Virginia, and Mrs. Charles A Paul.
 Travel Satisfactory
 50 far we have had satisfactory tourist travel" MT Semar pointed out, although I do not believe it will amount to the great improve ment that we all anticipated.
 The greatest reason for this lack of willingness on the part of persons living away from the Pacific Coast to travel is their fear that strike may rise at some strategic point of their route and leave them abso- lutely stranded. All these strikes the maritime tieup, the hotel strike in San Francisco, and others-at- feet the tourist trade adversely.
 Despite the strike flareups in the United States, MT. Semar looks upon 1c37 as a potentially successful year
 Cold Storage Business | T spoke to every cold storage man in Southeast Alaska" he point ed out, and they assured me that their business was far ahead of last year at this time. In addition, most fishing seasons have been excel
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09
CHANNEL BUS LINE

Phone lOS Juneau or Il Douglas Leave Juneau: A.M.-7:15, 800, 9:15, 1915, HIS; P.M.-12:15, Ills, 3:15, AIS, 5:15, 6:15, 7:15, 8:15, 9:45,
 11:15, 12:O0 midnight. Leave Douglas A.M.-7:40, 8: 40, $40, l0:40, l1:40; P.M.-12:40, 2:10, $40, 4:40, $40, $40, TAO, $40, 10:10,
 11:40
 Glacier Highway Leave Aux Bay: A.M.-7:00 8:l5; P.M.-l2:30, AIS. Saturday Special
 645 pm. Leave Juneau: AM. = 7:30, 9:30; P.M.-2:30, 5:15. Saturday Special
 10:00 pm. First Bus Sundays and Holidays Leaves Juneau at 9.30 am.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09
Marine News
Steamer Movements
NORTHBOUND


 . Mount Mckinley due to arrive at II o'clock tomorrow fore noon and is scheduled to sail westward at l o'clock in the afternoon. . Princess Alice scheduled to . arrive Saturday evening. . Northwestern due Tuesday. Northland due Tuesday. SCHEDULED SAILINGS [ . Yukon scheduled to sail from Seattle am. tomorrow. Princess Louise scheduled to sail from Vancouver July 10 at 9 pm. Prince Rupert scheduled to sail from Vancouver July l2 ( at 9 pm. . Aleutian scheduled to sail from [ Seattle July 13 at am. . Baranof scheduled to sail from . Seattle July IA at 9 am. . Princess CharlotAe scheduled to ( sail from Vancouver July IA [ at 9 pm. . North Sea scheduled to sail ( . from Seattle July 16 at 10 [ . am. sOUTHBOUND SAILINGS | . Prince Robert scheduled to ar rive in port Saturday at 3:30 am, and sails at 4 am. ( . Prince George scheduled south bound midnight Saturday. . Alaska scheduled southbound next Monday. LOCAL SAILINGS ( . EGtebeth leaves every Wednes- { day night at 6 pm, for ( Sitka and wayports. . Dart leaves every Wednesday { s at am. for Petersburg, Port ( Alexander, Rake and way ports. (
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09
g LEAVE HERE
 ON CHARLOTTE

The Princess Charlotte, arriving here from Skagway at 4:30 o'clock this morning, left at o'clock with the following passengers for the States Percy Reynolds, J. zarolis, c. A. Danielson, L. Iverson, s. San ders, P. Korsinen, E. Pierson, I. Matthews, and w. E. Feero.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1937-07-09

identified as part of the plane of Capt. Charles Kingsford- Smith, fa- nous Australian aviator who has been missing since 1885 when on an ocean hop. The announcement is made by the B. F. Goodrich Com pany.
The Waterbury Democrat. [volume] (Waterbury, Conn.) 1917-1946, 1937-02-08
STRAND

Warner Brothers Strand theater
has been turned over to the Water
bury Council Of Catholic Women to-
day for special showing of the
sensational Aim "Cloistered" for the
benefit Of the Diocesan Bureau of
Social Service. There will be four
performances at 2, 4, Z and 8 p. m.
prompt. Tickets are on sale at the
box Office.
"Cloistered" was filmed by special
permission Of Pope Plus XXI who
permitted cameramen, for the first
time in history, to enter and film
the mysterious life Of the nuns liv-
ing in strictly clustered converts
where no man ever entered before.
Tuesday the Strand win present,
for the last times, "Sing Me A Love
Song" with James Melton, Patricia
Ellis, Hugh Herbert, Zasu Pitts and
Allen Jenkins also Mae West In go
West Young Man."
Wednesdays new show will be
headlined by AFTER The Thin Man"
starring William Powell and Mwrna
10y. The companion feature will be
Easy To Take" with an all star cast
Of Hollywood favorites.
Watch tomorrow's papers for more
news about Wednesdays dandy
twin hit show.
The Waterbury Democrat. [volume] (Waterbury, Conn.) 1917-1946, 1937-02-08
ScoviIl Forernen At
23rd Annual Dinner
Past Year Excellent One for Company Declares John
H. GOss; 500 Attend Event; FInmOrist Chief Speaker

NO depression period was expert
enced by the Scovill Manufacturing
Company during the past summer
as had been expected according to
records Of previous years, said John
H. Goss, vice-president and general
manager Of the Scovill Manufactur-
ing Company at the 23rd annual
dinner of the foremen's association,
Saturday night IN The Elton. We've
had a wonderful year this past
year and this has placed an en-
tirely new picture on the status Of
the company" he stated. <-.
More than 500 members and
guests Of the association attended.
In regard to the younger genera
ton, being graduated from the
schools with no possibility Of find
ing occupation Mr.. GoSs comment
ed, II think we have distinct oc-
cupation Mr.. Goss commented, II
think we have distinct responsibility
to these young people. They have
brains, all they need Is experience,
friendliness and kindness; let's give
it to them"
wild M. G.
The speakers program was OPEN
ed by John Fogarty, president of the
association after invocation had been
pronounced by Rev. Edward l..
Morrison, pastor Of the Church Of
the Blessed Sacrament. Henry w.
Jim" Wild, assistant superintend-
emit of the manufacturing depart
ment then took hold as POSTMASTER,
supplying humorous anecdotes Of
each speaker before presenting him
to the audience.
An interesting talk on "The
Lowdown on the Highups in Wash
ington," was offered by Strickland
Gillian, humorist and Washington
correspondent. Two original poems,
one the immortal "Of Again, On
Again, Finnegan," were recited by
the speaker. Edward o. Goss, presi-
dent of Scovilps was unable to at
tend because of illness. ..
Entertainment included group
singing led by Guy Wallace, and
solos by william st. John. Rev.
Tamuel A. Budde offered benedic-
ton. In addition to the speakers
and other principals, the following
were seated at the guest table:
List of Guests
william B. Price, chief chemist;
Roger s. Sperry, in charge Of the
developing department; Alan Curtis,
assistant to the general superin-
tendent; John v. Montague, assist
ant controller; Arthur Hickox, di-
rector Of purchases; Burden p.
Hyde, assistant sales manager: Ben
net Bronson, general manager Of
the Oakville division; William Goss,
secretary; William p. Ferguson,
general manager of the Waterville
division; s. T. Williams, of the
Schrader division, Brooklyn, N. Y;
Albert G. LuSher, production super
The Waterbury Democrat. [volume] (Waterbury, Conn.) 1917-1946, 1937-02-08

intendent; George Boden, superin.
tendent; George Boden, superiny
tendent Of the Oalville divisiorls
John Visher, assistant superintends
ent Of the OakvilIe division.
Others guests were: Alderman
Pasquale Perriello, William Simp-
son, both Of Waterbury; George
Mulligan and bud" Geoghegan,
local sportsmen; George ODonnell,
president Of the American Brass
Foremen's association; Al Schott,
president Of the Chase Fore
mems association. The following
out-of-town men were also guests:
w. M. Saunders, w. E. Benedict,
A. H. Jones and L. C. White.
Patrick Wallace was chairman of
the arrangements committee, assist
ed by william Aylward, Ralph Bates
Terry Bowling, William Foley, Rich
ard Goss, John Garren, Ward Hob
bic, Leon Hayshaw, William Nc
Gowan, Earl O'Dell, Arthur Parent,
Michael Quinlan, Philip Reuter-, Al
w. Schaff, Stanley Swenterley, Gus
Schoeck, Charles Tully and Arthur
TAYLOR.
The Waterbury Democrat. [volume] (Waterbury, Conn.) 1917-1946, 1937-02-08
ing" is still on in a big way.

, ing" is still on in big way.
Welcome Opposition
At one point it was likely that
Roosevelt would propose both his
present recommendations and a
constitutional amendment at the
same time. But belief grew that
enough opposition and delay would
be encountered in state legislatures
to make ratification extremely haz-
ardous.
Administrationists believe that
opposition will come for the most
part only from individuals and
groups wnom it considers to have
been repudiated at the polls.
The more arguments they make
against the plan, they think, the
more popular it will become. Thus
they greeted Herbert Hoovers
denunciation of it with a whoop.
and waited in eager anticipat on
for a helpful attack b. AL Smith.
Some liberals have grave doubts
that Roosevelt's program is the
right plan, and the opposition has
yet to form its lines. This cjs-
patch attempts only to explain
how it happened, and not to criti-
cizes or forecast. Di,ccunting a
certain amount of Roosevelt opti-
miSm, however, the program
seems very likely to become the
law of the land.
Copyright 1887, NEA Service, Incl
The Waterbury Democrat. [volume] (Waterbury, Conn.) 1917-1946, 1937-02-08
STATE

Kay Francis with Ian Hunter In
Stolen Holiday" and Devils Play
ground" with Richard Dix, Dolores
Del Rio and Chester Morris are two
splendid cinemas to be enjoyed to-
day and tomorrow at Warner Broth
erS' State theater. Yes sir! The
State shows are the talk of the
town. =. hit after hit without a let
up, and Wednesday ushers In
another great hit that Is even now
the talk of Broadway from the Bat
terry to the Bronx.
It's "You Only Live Once" starr
ing Henry Fonda and Sylvia Sid
ney, a stark human drama that will
make you gasp as you watch its
gripping narrative unfold on the
screen.
Dynamic conflict, thrilling action
and soaring romance are combined
in this story OF woman who risked
her very life to fight by the side OF
the man she loved when the whole
world condemned him and hunted
him like an animal in every corner
of the earth.
Fritz Lang, who handled the
megaphone on Fury" Metropolis
and other unforgetable films, direct
ed "You Only Live Once"
A great supporting cast, headed
by Barton MacLane, who incidental
ly has his first sympathetic role;
Jean Dixon, william Gargan and
the late Charles "Chic" Sale. and
including Warren Hymer, Margaret
Hamilton, Quinn Williams, Jerome
Cowan, John Wray, and others, Is
seen in this spellbinding story Of
human emotions in the raw.
The companion feature represents
Melvyn Douglas, the man who made
Theodore Go Wild" with a new
girl friend in his latest hit, Woman
OF Glamour
The Waterbury Democrat. [volume] (Waterbury, Conn.) 1917-1946, 1937-02-08
ARTISTIC TALENT
SHOWN BY MOVIES

A three-reel picture showing the
constructive development of artistic
talent among the Negro populate
in the larger cities of the United
States was exhibited yesterday af-
ternoon at the Central "Y" forum by
Mrs. Leila T. Alexander of the Pearl
street Community house. She was
assisted by Plummer Alexander and
Miss Inez Alexander. The pictures
were accompanied by a lecture. Roy
A. Ferris presided.
The Waterbury Democrat. [volume] (Waterbury, Conn.) 1917-1946, 1937-02-08

DR.. M. j. Lawlor, president, presided
A benefit program was explained
by John G. Gilmartin, chairman Of
this activity. Proceeds are to be
added to the Stephen w. Wildly
Scholarship Fund, which the club
started last year. An award is ex-
pected to be made this spring. The
presentation of an award is sched-
uled to be held on Friday, April 16
in the offices of the D. T. Earring
aon Travel Bureau. The prize is
round-trip to Bermuda for two per-
sons, including a five-day stay. or
the island.
Date Announced
The date for the annual banque
was also announced on Saturday by
Chairman Timothy j. Sullivan. II
will be held Thursday evening, April
IS, at the Hotel Elton. Mr.. Sullivan
expects to announce his committee
this week.
Tributes were paid to the lah
Rev. Michael j. Earls, whose deatf
occurred last week in New York, BY
Attorneys Vincent Scully and Frank
Healey. Father Earls has beer
a member Of the faculty of Holy
Cross College since 1918 and of re-
cent years had been the faculty.
alumni representative. He was
scheduled to come to Waterbury this
spring for the banquet.
President Lawlor named Attorneys
Scully, Healey, and Joseph Alishau-
sky, a committee to draw up appro.
pirate resolutions on Father Earls
the same to be forwarded to the
college.
In Attendance
Those attending the Saturday
luncheon included: DIR. M. j. Law.
lor. Maurice P. Wrenn, Cornelius F
Maloney, William B. Hennessey
Timothy J. Sullivan, DR.. Christopher
E. Dwyer, William b. Fitzgerald
John P. Kinney, Walter E. Mona
gan, Jr., George V. Grady, Edward
Bergin, Frank Healey, John B. De-
laney, DR.. Joseph Reynolds, Terence
G. Carmody, John G.. Gilmartin, Jo-
-seph Alishausky, Francis Mcdonald
Stephen Bergin, DR.. Edward .Claffeyl
Vincent Scully, E. Vincent Maloney,
Thomas Byrnes, DR.. w. Clement
Kennedy of Torrington, and William
Nixon of Naugatuck.
Entertainment was furnished dur
ing the luncheon by DR.. Reynolds,
John Delaney, Walter Monagan, and
a double quartet, led by George
Grady. Plummer Alexander, we'll
known high school musician, was
accompanist and also played several
selections during the meal.
The Waterbury Democrat. [volume] (Waterbury, Conn.) 1917-1946, 1937-02-08

he feels bound to protect from ex-
ploitation by selfish interests"
Fundamental New Deal philoso-
ply, from both the economic
standpoint with it's consideration of
purchasing power and the political
standpoint, calls for a strong labor
movement.
Predominant administration opin-
ion views the sitdown strike as a
new and relatively successful labor
union technique which is no more
illegal than the defiance by large
corporate employers of the Wagner
labor Act and other New Deal
laws.
The Wagner act, which guaran-
tees freedom to organize and bar
gain collectively and outlaws COM
pany unions, is a key to Roosevelt's
decision to act at this time. The
relative certainty that the supreme
court would try to kill the act, was
taken into consideration.
Against Judiciary Rule
Roosevelt definitely believes that