Evening star., 1936-04-16

council he made in the West last year
With obvious reluctance, the witness
told of towns and cities he visited II
Indiana, South Dakota and other
States.
Names Are Refused.
1t was when Chairman Black In
sisted that he divulge the names of
persons he consulted on this trip that
Grunwald hedged.
II don't want to get them into
trouble" he remarked.
What trouble could you get them
IMP" the chairman asked.
Under this New Deal they would
get into lots of trouble" Grunwald
declared. II would be a damn fool ii
gave their names out. Not until
dooms day will I do it."
Let me get this clear" Black said
you absolutely decline to give the
names Of people you saw in South
Dakota?"
II do, for the reasons stated" Grun-
wald announced In firm tones.
A consultation ensued among Black
Senator Minton and Senator Schwel-
lenbach, the only committee members
present.
Turning back to Grunwald. Black
inquired if he had had any advice this
morning before coming to the COM
mittee room to testify. The witness
said he had not.
Senator Minton asked if Grunwald
was naturalized.
Il was ready for that question, "
Grunwald said, rising and taking some
papers from his pocket Here are my
naturalization papers. People of foreign
birth have to go through hell in this
country. was prosecuted here during
the war because I was of German
extraction. I got away from the
Russian Cheka and don't want to sc
through that here"
No Effort to Leave.
Senator Schwellenbach asked Grun-
wald If he had made any effort to e
back to Russia. The witness said hs
Q1O1l want 10 go OacK.
After further consultation among
the committee members, Black ad.
journed the hearing. Senator Mintor
explained to newspaper men that the
chairman wished to confer with Other
members of the committee in connec.
ton with possible contempt actor
against Grunwald.
During his brief appearance on the
witness stand. Grunwald had made
frequent Il don't remember" replie.
to a number of Blacks questions con.
cerning Grunwald's activities in behal,
Of the Farmers Council. Grunwalc
said he came here early in 1885 anC
saw Stanley F. Morse, then consult.
ing agriculturist" for the American
Liberty League, with a view to or.
gsnizing farmers council.
He said he talked to Representative
Crawford. Republican, of Michigan
over the telephone, and that Crawford
later attended an organization meet
ing of the council at the Raleigh Hotel
II came to Washington because
wanted to find some he men who
would go out and fight the Triple A.
Grunwald asserted. He said Morse
thought the plan was all right"
Grunwald said he returned to Wash
ington last April in response to q
letter from Morse and attended the
Raleigh Hotel meeting at which the
council was organized.
Farmer Truck Gardener"
Grunwald said he had kept no let
ters or kilograms bearing on his coun-
Gil activities. He described himself
as farmer truck gardener, an ex.
pert on sugar beet raising and re.
fining."
Asked If he had ever been employed
by any sugar company, those in the
committee room understood him to
reply in the negative. Chairman
Black then read to Grunwald an ex-
cerpt of testimony he had given
some time ago before the Senate FL
nance Committee, in which he said