The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-01-10

were the JafSie of the ads? Ayes.
Q-Then you did tell the neigh
bors of the island you were the
Jafsie? A-Generally speaking,
yes.
C-Will you give me the names of
some of the people you told that you
were the Jafsie in the ads? A-Jaf-
sic ran over a list of his neighbors'
names and said he talked to them
about the case, after some one else
published the fact" that ne was
Jafsie.
Stops to Adjust Suspender
Odd you ever say a woman
took part in the negotiations?
Mr.. Wilentz objected because the
question did not include, name,
time or place" The objection was
sustained.
The procedure halted while JafSie
adjusted his right suspender.
1t hurts little bit" he ex-
planned
The defense was attempting to
prove that JafSie actually was
garrulous old man, who told what
ever stories suited his fancy to any
one who would talk to him. 1t will
bring a number of witnesses to the
stand who will say that Jafsie told
them strange tales about the ran
som negotiations and his part in
them.
Q-After the defendant was ar
rested did you ask Detective Gala
han Of the Bronx for some pictures
of this defendant so you could study
them? A-No.
Odd anybody give you pictures
of the defendant? A-No.
Odd you say to Callahan, don't
tell anyone you gave me the pic
lures? A-No. (Emphatically9
Saw Hauptmann in Bronx
Q-Where were you when you say
you saw Hauptmann in the Bronx
in the latter part of August, 1894?
Al was riding in a bus.
Q-Give me the number of the
bus? Al don't remember.
Q-Give me the chauffeur'S Ii
cense? Al didn't take it.
Odd you make an cutlery? A
in the bus, yes.
Q-Give me the name of some
one who heard you? Al didn't
ask any one for his name.
Odd you tell the bus driver to
run this man down? A-No. he
couldn't run him down in that traf-
fic. Fifty people might have been
killed.
Mystery Letters Revealed
Q-Where did the man go? A
He disappeared in the woods up by
Pelham-p kwy.
Q-Then it is your sworn testl-
mony that you saw this man you
say you paid the ransom to-the
man who double crossed you-and
you made no effort to capture him?
Al couldn't.
Odd you ever tell any one at
City Island you were receiving mail
from the kidnaperS?
An objection to the question was
sustained.
Q-I ask you whether you ever
received this letter? REILLY handed
him a letter. Ayes.
Q-When? Al can't say ex-
actly.
Q-Can you say if this letter was
received during ransom negotia-
tions? Al couldn't say.
Odd you receive this letter? "a
second one was given him. Ayes,
in November, 1882.
Admits knowing Woman
The letters were offered in evil
dence by Mr. Reilly. Justice Tren-
chard termed the procedure irreg-
ular.
Mr.. Reilly led out of the crowd
a woman in a green dress and hat,
and brought her up to the witness
chair. Her name was given only as
Mrs. Koeran."
Odd you ever see this lady be-
fore?
Jafsie looked at her intently. and
said:
Il believe she came to NV house
one time with Mrs. Bush
Odd you give he - letters
and did you tell her that The hand
writing in those letters correspond
ed to that in the ransom notes?
A-Not that 1 recall.
Mrs. Korean, middle-aged wom-
an, turned and went back to her
place in the section reserved for
witnesses.
Denies Custer by School
Mr.. Wilentz asked that the letters
as evidence, be read to the jury
Mr. Reilly protested that the letters
would be more intelligiole to the
jury when the defense's case was in
progress.
Finally. the state agreed the let