The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-01-10
MYSTERY WOMAN may Be
USED TO REFUTE JAFSIE'S
STORY OF KIDNAP MURDER
Defense Produces Surprise Exhibit During
Grilling of Educator; DR.. Condor
Admits Knowing Her.
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Four months later he died on his
native soil. Before he left. he
turned all his possessions over 10
Hauptmann. including, according to
the stolid Bronx carpenter. a shoe
box which contained nearly $4,000
IN the ransom bills.
Fisch and Hauptmann had been
in partnership, Hauptmann says, in
the fur business.
The defense strategy revolved
again. around their theory that the
crime was committed by a gang
rather than a lone wolf In read
ing over the ransom notes received
by DR.. Condor. Mr.. Reilly roared
each reference to We" he found
in them
He plans to attack the case
against the former machine gunner
of the imperial German army on
the technical grounds that the in
dictment against him alleges that
Hsutpmann alone conceived and
executed the crime.
The Bronx schOOlmaster, who
reached his 18th birthday ami
versary only two days ago. was in
fine fettle as he parted Mr.. Reilly's
questions He met belligerency with
snappy retorts.
Admonishes Defense Counsel
He instructed counsel not to
shout at him, because I'm not
deaf" Occasionally he waggled an
impressive finger in Mr. Reilly's di-
recton. as though he were admon-
ishing a pupil.
over and over again, the red faced,
flushed defense counsel, carried Jaf-
sic through the details of his meet
ings with the man he says is Haupt-
mann, in the Bronx cemeteries. He
made him describe to the minutest
detail every occurrence of the dark
nights on which. he says, he talked
at length with the extOrtioner.
DR.. Condor was asked to demon
strate how John" had his coat COL
lar up around his chin. He
hunched his chin down and pulled
the collar of his blue serge coat up
around his neck.
Q-What kind of a hat did he
have on? A-May borrow one and
show YOU?
Gets Hat From Spectator
Mr. Reilly procured a hat from
a spectator and Jafsie said the hat
held in his hand was similar to
Johns, but Johns Grim was turned
up
JafSie was IN much better form
than yesterday afternoon. He took
part in the legal proceedings. ana
seemed to realize that he could no.
ramble through his testimony.
Time and time again he shook mis-
head and laughed when he saw Mr..
Reilly was on the verge of protest.
ing against "unreSponsive answers"
and shaking mis- head. declared
You're right Mr.. Reilly"
There was, too. a disposition on
MS part to prove to the courtroom
fans that he was a man of extensive
knowledge. particularly regarding
all forms of athletics.
He didn't try to correct Mr..
Reilly'S English" as often as he did
when the Brooklyn lawyers ques-
tions began to fluSter him late yes
terday afternoon.
Lindbergh Listens IntentIy
The interest Hauptmann dis
played in the proceedings of the last
two dsvS seemed to have died down,
and while he listened to all the
testimony, there was considerable
apathy in his appearance, and he
was Slumping down in his seat.
Col. Lindbergh. his hair rumpled
and tossed. watched DR. Condon's
performance intently. however. and
he and his close friend. Col Henry
Breckenridge, appeared to be digest
ing every word of the story.
Once. when JafSie complained Mr..
Reilly wasn't talking English" the
attorney said:
Owe differ about English, don't
We? A-No. it's the way you ex-
press yourself.
Q-NOu don't want me to talk
baby talk do you? A-No.
Odd you visit City Island about
April 10? Al believe I did.
Admits He Told Neighbors
Q-When YOU went to City Island,
whom did you associated with? A
Friends of 80 years standing and
nelghbOrs.
Odd you tell any of these City
Island people that you thought a
gang of four or five people COM
mitted the kidnapping? Al don
remember.
Odd you on April TO- 1882. tell
your neighbors at any time that
YOU were the Jafsie of the ads? A
I don't remember.
Odd YOU ever tell any one you