The daily worker. [volume] (Chicago, Ill.) 1924-1958, 1935-01-25
What Butler Really Said:


guished guests, to the White House for approval:
that Louis Howe one of the secretaries the Presi
dent, had crossed my name of and said that was
not to be invited-that the President would not
have it.
I thought I smeued a rat, right away-that they
were trying to get me mad-to get my goat. I said
nothing.
He Murphy is on our side, though He wants
to see the soldiers cared for"
Us he responsible, too, for making the Legion
strikebreaking OUTFIT"
NO. no. He does not control anything in the
Legion now"
I said: You know very well that it Is nothing
but strkebreaking outfit used by capital for that
purpose and that is the reason they have all those
big club houses and that is the reason pulled out
from It. They have been using these dumb soldiers
TO break strikes
He said; Murphy hasn't anything to do with
that. He is a very fine fellow"
1 said, II do not doubt that but there is some
reason for his putting S125OOO into this"
Well that the end Of that conversation.
He Clark laughed and said, THAT speech cost
lot of money Clark told me that it had cost
him a lot of money Now either from what he said
then from what MacGuire had said got the
impression that the speech had been written by
John w. Davis-one the other of them told
that-but he thought that it was big joke that
these fellows were claiming the authorship Of that
speech.
think there was one other visit to the house
because he (NfacGuire) proposed that go to Bos-
ton to a soldiers dinner to be given by Governor
Ely for the soldiers, and that 1 was to go with AL
Smith. He said, 1--WE will have private car for
you on the end of the train and have your picture
taken with Governor Smith. You will make a speech
at this dinner and it will be worth thousand dol
lars to you"
said, IT never got thousand dollars for making
speech"
He said you will get it this time"
who is going to pay for this dinner and this
ride up in the private carr"
Oh, we will pay for it out Of our funds. You
will have your picture taken with Governor Smith"
/ said, 81 do not want to have my picture taken
with Governor Smith 1 do not like him."
We'll, then, he can meet you up there"
said, mo, there is something wrong in this
There Is connection that have with AL Smith
that should be riding along together to soldiers
dinner. He is not for the soldiers, either I am not
going to Boston to any dinner given by Governor
Ely for the soldiers If the soldiers of Massachusetts,
want to give dinner and want me to come, I will
come, But there is no thousand dollars in it,"
So he said well, then we will think Of some
thing else"
said, what is the idea of AL Smith in this?"
WELL" he said, "Al Smith is getting ready to
assault the Administration in his magazine. 1t will
appear in month He is going to take
shot at the money question He has definitely broken
with the President"
was interested TO note that about month later
he did, and the New Outlook took the shot that he
told month before they were going to take.
Let say that this fellow has been able to tell me
a month or six weeks ahead of time everything that
happened. That made him interesting / wanted
to see If he going to out right.
So I said at this time, $50 1 am going to be
dragged in sort Of publicity agent for AL Smith
to get him to sell magazines by having our picture
taken the platform of private car, is that
the idea?"
We'll you are to sit next to each other at dinner
and you are both going to make speeches. You will
speak for the soldiers without assauIting the Ad-
ministration, because this Administrator has cut
their threats. AL Smith will make a speech, and
they will both be very much alike"
said, 81 not going You Just cross that out"
another idea
Now, I cannot recall which one of these fellows
told me about the rule of succession about the Sec
rotary of State becoming President when the Vice
President is eliminated. There was something said
in one of the conversations that 1 had either with
MacGuire, with Flagg, whom 1 met in Indanap-
oils, that the Presidents health was bad and he
might resign and that Garner did not want it any
how, and then this super-secretary would take the
place of the Secretary of State and in the order of
succession would become President He made some
remark about the President being very skinned
and did not like criticism, and 1t would be very
much easier to pin it somebody else. He could
say that he above such routine matters and let
the other fellow take Of 1t and then get rid
OF him IL necessary. That was the idea He said
that they had this money to spend on it, and he
wanted to know again If I would head it, and said
NO was interested in it, but would not head IT,"
He said, when I was in Paris, my headquarters
were Morgan & Hodges (Haries). We had meet
ing over there. I might well tell you that our
group is for you, for the head of this organization
Morgan Hodges (Harjes) are against YOU The
Morgan interests say that you cannot be trusted
that you too radical and so forth that you are
too much the side of the little fellow; you can
not be trusted. They are for Douglas Macarthur as
the head of it. Douglas MacArthurs term expires
in November and If he is not reappointed it is to be
presumed that he will be disappointed sore and
they for getting him to head it,"
said, II do not think that You will get the
soldiers to follow him, Jerry. He is in bad odor be-
cause he put q uniform with medals to march
down the streets In Washington 1 know the
soldiers"
We'll, thsn. will get Hanford MacHider. They