The Waterbury Democrat., 1935-02-08
No uauutmoun BoarIs


 TIemington, N. J., Feb. B. fBP1.-charIeg T. DeIsisschop, "practical lumber man." Bwore again today that not a board used in the Lindbergh kidnap ladder come from the attic of Bruno Richard Hauptmann.
 Attorney General David T.. Wlientz engaged in q heated alter cation with defense witness, but succeeded in tripping him only once. DeBisschop was shown a nall tlint came from a floor board In the Bronx attic. He declared the nail had never been used.
 t'Wouid you be surprised to know that this nall actually came from the board itself, and that Il was used to nail 1t into the beam ?" WiIenx asked.
 sYes, I'd be awfuily surprised" the lumberman said. But he de" ciined to change his testimony.
 DeBisschop disputed evidence previously offered by Arthur Koch Ter, the governments wood expert. and reiterated his declaration that the ladder rail was not from the Same wood SIS the attic floor, as Koehler had said.
 ~ The lumberman said there were no tool marks on the ladder rail fbat would indicate it had been taken from the attic. If the board hnd been pricd loose. he insisted. tiiere would have been marks afound the nail holes.
 The defense expected to com. pleto It's case today, but indicated iE would put another wood expert oh the stand, fin which case 1t Would not rest until late in the aft eYnoon.
 V Bennington, N. J., Feb s--(UP) @Lcharies DiBisschop, lumber man, Vas called back to the witness chair today when the trial of Hruno Richard Hauptmann for the Snurder of the Lindbergh baby wag resumed.
 ~ His testimony dealt with the Mood fin the ladder that the kid+ fiaper abandoned on the Lindbcrgh Getate.
 N Frederick Pope of defense coun- sci walked to the stand with q piccc of small pine. An attendant Brought up fl second piece, Bprout- ipg pine needles.
 ' The witness placed the two W4gECm OI piHS LTtG tOBGluEE tO 6ibow the jury.
 Attorney General WiIentz ob- Xctcd that the exhibit was not Mpecimen from which the kldnap ladder rail and the Hauptmann at- t1c floor board might have come.
 pObe was trying to demonstrate, nrouRh the witness, that boards Gosm the top of Il tree contained &ewer knotholeB than those near tbe base. There Is a knot in rail " in the ladder.
 V The court, after prolonged argu- Wcnt by opposing counsel. con- Nented to the use of the sapling for 3Iustration.
 M JJeBisschop took the sapling; got yit of the witness chair and de- Uvered q lecture to the Jury on Kuots in wood.
 . Pope showed the witness a board ffom Hauptmann's attic, and asked Hlm If there were any marks made Ny tool used to loosen the board Fom th0 attic beams.
 DeBiscchop said there were no Mich marks.
 .. Do you see any shadows or sfnrks of Joists on the under side 6f that board? A. None. WllcntZ cOnducted the cross ex- Sanitation.
 z .. CBy WiIcntz) you nying 10 carry the impression to Nbe Jury that the board had never been laid down on Joists? A. be- hcvc it was not taken up. ~ c. You wouldn't Say 1t wasn't raiied down to the Jolsty, would You? A. No.
 {. c. You said yesterday there were two kinds of nails in tho lad. der raiI and the attic floor board--- eight penny and Nix penny nails? A. Yes.
 4 Wilcntz offered two nails in cvl- Hence.
 " C. fs thiB m eight penny nail? A. Yes
 VI C. WilI you Say 1t waGnt used ln Inc hOorboardY A. Yes. VI c. IL has never been uBcd on aBything? A. No, because 1t would DC impossible 10 pull ont a nall ln