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Eyes, sir"
And they we're both doing a bank
ing business?"
"YeS, sir"
"They were depositors in banks?"
Their deposits ran $1,000, $2,l0o
as high as maybe $4,000 year9'
"Yes, sir"
Both before and after the kid.
naping2"
After the kidnapping they were
higher than that"
How much higher?"
1888, the total deposits in the bank
accounts were S5.607,50."
What we're the Withdrawals"
s1O2203"
And what was the withdrawal the
next year?"
1894, $3l9.30"
"And what was the balance wher
it was closed?"
"S2,5oo and some odd"
within $50 of what it was when II
was opened?"
Yes, sir"
The defense chief also got Frank
to say that Hauptmann began buying
| stocks on margin in 1880.
Then he didn't need so much
money!" Reilly suggested.
mo, sir" Frank agreed.
Defense Drills Bruno.
With only three days remaining be-
fore it starts to present It's own case
the defense drilled Hauptmann for the
star role he must play in the attempt
to save himself from the electric chair
His chief counsel gave Hauptmann
copies of his own accounts TO study
and coached him about the questions
both friendly and hostile, to be put tc
him later this week.
| Reilly asserted that attempts have
been made to intimidate at least two
prospective witnesses for the defense.
Within the last "a hours one i'm
portant male witness for the defense
whose name was mentioned the other
day, has received phone calls anc
messages threatening harm to his wifs
and children if he dares to testify
he said.
This man was first called TO my
| attention by another man who was
to have been a witness and who also
was told TO keep away from Fleming
ton"
Whether the men will appear, Reilly
did not say.
The defense also has subpoenaed a
woman witness, it became known. tC
offer her own solution of the crime-a
solution that would absolve Haupt-
mann and incriminate his dead friend
Isador Fisch
Mrs. Bertha Hoff, New York
housewife, said she would name Fiscll
and several others whose activities led
her to believe they kidnapped and killed
the baby and collected the ransom
| She said she knew Fisch and the other
suspects for several years.
Never Knew Hauptmann.
II never knew Hauptmann or heard
about him until his arrest. and can't
see how he could have been in 1t,
she said
The suspects, in addition to Fisch
she declared, had been known to hel
| for several years.
Mrs. Hoff, mother of two boys and
| girl, said she gave her story to
James NJ Fawcett, former attorney
| for Hauptmann, and it was investi-
gated by Henry Kress, who has served
FaWcett, and also Hauptmann's pres
ent chief of counsel, Edward J. Reilly
as investigator.
81 was subpoenaed by Mr.. Reilly
to appear in Pennington on January
8, but he told me it was too early
to come over. He said should wait
until they we're ready for me-" said
Mrs. Hoff.
"Mr. Fawcett told me that the
Bronx hearing did not require my
story, because it was only to bring
Hauptmann to New Jersey"
Mrs Hoff said that after the kid
naping Il gave the police the informa-
ton I had, but all we heard from It
was that the Department Of Justice
had opened an investigation into new
angles OF the case. That was about
eight days after the kidnapping.
Certain Fisch Was Involved.
"I am certain that Isador Fisch was
involved and equally certain that these
other people were as well. saw Fisch
sometime later, when he wanted to
leave two suit cases and two small
packages at my home.
by that time had come to know
so much of these people that refused
to have anything to do with them.
Il was with Mrs. Hauptmann, under
subpoena, when Hauptmann went to
court in the Bronx to fight extradition
to New Jersey.
"The little revolver produced at the
trial, the one that was found in the
Hauptmann home, was similar to one
that had been stolen from my home
by the family I had in mind. I am
almost certain 1t was the one, but 1t
will be hard to prove, because the GUS
toms records which carried its number
have been destroyed"
Her circumstantial case against the
persons she said she would name in
volved their being near Hopewell Just
before the crime, possession OF ladders
and other major factors in the case.
Fisch Known as John"
Mrs. Curt Schwartz, another Bronx
housewife, said today Isador Fisch was
known as John" during a trans
Atlantic crossing after the Lindbergh
kidnapping.
John" was the name taken by the
man who collected the $4,000 Lind
bergh ransom-a part imputed to
FfSch by Hauptmann's defense.
"Fisch, was most peculiar char
acter," Mrs Schwarz said in an inter-
view. my husband and I sailed with
| him on the steamship Washington
when he went back to his home in
Leipzig to die.
He always gave us his name as
John on the ship; and later, when
he wrote us two letters and two postal
cards from Leipzig, he signed that
name to them.
I'VE did not think to look up his
real name on the passenger list until
long after the voyage. Then we found
| it was Isador."
Mrs. SchWarZ said that she had