The Waterbury Democrat., 1935-02-04

c. Where did you meet him ? A. At a cabinet makers.
 e. On April 9, 1032. were you at the Hauptmann home? A. Yes.
 Q. Do you play a musical in- strument? A. Yes a guitar.
 Q. What had been your cus- tom 50 far as you and MT Haupt- mann playing music? A. We would meet at his home Saturdays and play.
 Q. Tell us what happened at the Hauptmann home on April 22 A. got to the house about 2 o'clock. We had coffee and cake and sang.
 Q. Hauptmann was there all night until he drove you home? A.. Yes.
 c. Who else was In the house besides you and Hauptmann? A. Mrs Hauptmann.
 Q. Do you recall party at the Hauptmann house for Isidor Fisch? A. Yes.
 Q. How many times did you sec Flsch at the Hauptmanp home? A. About 30.
 Q. When did you first meet 1si- dor Fitch? A. In 1880, July or Aus gust.
 Reilly showed Kloppenburg a group photograph.
 CT ask you if you recognize any persons on there? A. It looks like Henry Uhlig and, over there, Isi- dor Fisch.
 The photograph was admitted into evidence.
 Reilly showed him a picture of a man. Kloppenburg said he did not recognize the man.
 e. Do you recall where you first met Fisch? A. On Hunters island in July, 1892.
 c. Now on the evening of this party for Fisch, do you remember the date? A. No, I don't.
 c. How long was 1t before he sailed for Germany? A. It was the Saturday before he sailed.
 Q. Do you know when Fisch sailed? A. The Wednesday after the Saturday of his party at Hauptmann's that was in Decem- Der. 1883.
 Kloppenburg said Mrs Mueller, and Hauptmann and his wife, "a young German couple from Eliza beth" d Mir Schissler and q young woman were at the Fisch farewell party.
 Q. Do you know Ernst schoef- fer?
 A. Yes.
 Q. Mrs Hauptmann's brother. Was he there?
 A. T don't know.
 Q. What time did you get there?
 A. Between and 2 o'clock.
 c. Did you see Flsch come in?
 A. Yes, from the stairs.
 c. Did you see him in conver- sation with MT Hauptmann?
 A. Yes, he talked to him right away.
 e. Did he have a package?
 A. Yes, under his arm.
 Q. When was the last time you saw Fsch with that package in Hauptmann's house?
 A. That night.
 O. Describe 1t?
 A. It was or 6 inches high and wide and about IA inches long.
 e. And it was where?
 A. Under his arm.
 c. And then where did Fisch and Hauptmann go?
 A.. To the kitchen. joined the group did he have the package with him?
 A. No. he did not.
 Kloppenburg was turned over to Wilentz for oss-examination.
 c. You're the man who took the trip to California with the Hauptmann's?
 A. Yes, am.
 c. You knew nothing about Hauptmann's life in Germany?
 A. No.
 Q. Who introduced you to Fisch?
 A. Nobody. 1t wasn't necessary.
 Q. You saw Fisch come up to the house that night with a pack age under his arm?
 A. Yes.
 Q. What time did you leave that night?
 A. I guess slept there that night.
 Q Did you see Hauptmann take Fisch to the station?
 A. l can't swcar to 1t.
 Q. You didn't see Fisch go home?
 A. No.
 c. So you don't know If he took the package home with him? A. I think he left --it in the kitchen. It?
 A. No.
 c. You remember when MT was arrested-he was still good friend of yours?
 Q. Sometime later you were inc vited to the Bronx district attor- ney's office?
 A. Yes. o. You knew that the state of New York and the State of New J ersey were charging Hauptmann with getting the $50.O00 from Dr When you were in the Bronx district attorneys office in October 1884?
 4. Yes.
 0. And you knew the state Hauptmann got the money on April 2?
 4. Yes.
 Wiientz referred to the state ments made by Kloppenburg in the
 Q. You said you could remem-