The Waterbury Democrat., 1935-02-04
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was recalled to the stand. He Is the witness at whom Hauptmann shouted mister, mister stop that lying" on a previous occasion. c. tBy Rcilly)--Whcn was examining you, believed we stopped because you needed per- mission to get q report? A. Yes. have portions of H. c. Did you speak to Dr Condon about his finding q footprint on n grave several days after he had paid over the ransom money? A.. Yes.
 c. How many days before he talked to you had Dr Condon been to the cemetery with a police of- ficer?
 Sisk said he had talked to Dr CondOn year and half after the incident.
 c. Now, Dr Condon was very fa- miiiar with St. Raymond's ceme- tefy wasn't he. A. wouldn't say he was.
 c. Didn't your investigation dis close that several members of condon's family were buried there? :? A. Just the opposite. Reilly held the report procured by Sisk.
 c. Did you talk 10 pr Condon about this report that several members of his family were buried there? A. No, I did not.
 Wilentz crossed examined him. .. (By Wilentz)-Did you fnd out who took the impressions of the footprins. R. Yes.
 c. Was it Dr Condon? A. No, 1t was Mir Hacker (Dr Condon's son in law) and Colonel Breckinridge.
 Sisk was excused. Your honor" said Reilly, "we had i've more witnesses to be heard to-day, but some of them didn't appear. May we have a five minute recess to see If any of them are in the vicinity"
 The request was granted. Mrs Hauptmann talked to Hauptmonn. Her face was wreathed in smiles Reiily's search for witnesses was successful and Captain Russell A. Shook of the New Jerey State po- licc was the next person summon cd to the stand. He was questioned by Lloyd Fisher and he explained he was in charge of the investigation, includ- ing finger printing, during 1892. Q. Now what were Trooper Keliy's duties in your bureau? A. Investigating at the scene of the crime.
 Q. IT there were nngcrprints Kelly reported back to you? c. Did you confer with pr Hudson of New York City? A. Not directly. c. Have you exchanged com munications with him in connec- tion with fingsrprinting fin the Lindbergh case? A. do not recall any. c. Were there taken under your inch of the Ldndbergh ladder? A. Not to my knowledge. l c. But you have heard or fip- gcrprint pictures being taken? A. | Yes.
 ] Shook said the ladder wag never l taken apart in his preseuce. The captain said he had some general knowledge of fingerprinting. Shook also declined to say that | he knew that Dr Hudson had made in investigation of the ladder, add- !, ing: with my men,"
 Wilentz cross examined. The witness said the ladder had been handled by many people. Col II. Norman Schwarzkopf, head of the New Jersey state po- lice was called.
 schwarzkopf told Fisher he had been in charge of investigation of the case.
 0. You have taken an unusual interest in this case? A. l haye- O. You had 6 duplicate ladder ! O., Was 1t in 2 or sections A. Three sections.
 The colonel said the ladder was now in Wilburtha. It Was made sc far as possible of the same mate rial as the original ladder.
 Two sections were used in ex. periments at the Lindbergh house
 c. Why did you use three sec. tions when you thought only tive were used tn the Kidnapping? A We tried every possibility. | c. Isn't 1t | fact that when tho ladder was found, you had difii culty in telling which were sectior' 1. 2 and 2? A. It was obvious tha the top section would not fit or the bottom section.
 Col SchwarzkoDf said he did not believe the kidnap ladder was pho tographed inch by inch.
 Fisher attempted to find out Il the police had cxperimented will men of various weight to deter,
 mine how heavy q person would have to Dc to sink the ladder in tho mud two inches. They did no' make this test, Schwarzkopf said
 c. At what weight did the du' plicate ladder break? A. At 18( pounds weight.
 c. How much did the Lindbergi baby weigh when 1t was Kidnapped A. About 90 pounds.
 c. Tine ladder didn't break al less than 180 pounds? A. No.
 c. Did the duplicate ladder break in the same place as the or iginai? A.. Yes, at the dowel pin.
 Fisher gaid he would continue his examination tomorrow ant Wilentz objected that the defense should finish with the witness to- | day. We want to question the col onel on q report tomorrow" Fisher said.
 Perhaps we will object to tho report" Wilentz replied.
 The court ordered Fisher to pro. cecd as far us possible for the pres ent.
 c. Did you ascertain from tho investigation that the person whc built the kidnap ladder used a saw In his left handY
 The question was objected to ant sustained.
 c. Please tell us what your In. vestigation disclosed? You hat men working under you? What dit you learn from them in connection with the ladder?
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