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The Washington times., 1935-01-04

Lawyer e a J.
tor Breuninger
surprised t h e
4~aAn~a n ~ RI
The Washington times., 1935-01-04
Federal Reserve
Announces Loans

Loans by brokers and dealers
from member banks in New York
city for the week ended January
2, totaled $598, 100000, the Fed
eral Reserve Board has an
nounced.
Loans by New York member
banks outside Of New York totaled
$54,O00,000. Loans by Chicago
member banks in New York were
$4,000, 900 and outside New York
$25, 100000.
ApNERrIsEMENI
The Washington times., 1935-01-04

From present aspects Of the
local Kiwanis unit, it could almost
effect a coalition with the District
Bar Association - there are so
many prominent attorneys in its
membership.
Bynum E. Hinton was installed
as first vice president, and when
The Washington times., 1935-01-04

made some ofLewis t. BreuninEer
the laggards envious when he
made a gracious speech, thank
ing the members for their loyal
support during his administra.
ton, and then presenting each
member who had a 100 per cent
attendance record for meetings
during 1884 with a handsome
plaque. There were more than q
score who merited the award.
Mrs. F.. Regis Noel, charming
and gracious hostess for her dis
tinguished husband on many oc.
casions, including the social af'
fairs at the American Bar ASso-
citation convention, departed last
night for three-month tour OF
the Orient, including a visit to
Australia.
The Washington times., 1935-01-04

M q y fl o W e r
Hotel yesterday
W h e n Harold
N. Marsh sue
ceeded to the
presidency for
1885.
L e W i S T.
Breuinger, retir-
ing president, is
still ra tie d a
pretty good law
er, although
he forSook the
woolSack I o r
real estate de-
v 10 pment g.
g 90 m a n y
The Washington times., 1935-01-04

an address be-
fore the Wash.
ington Hig h.
lands Citizens
Association in
its first meet
ing Of the year
last night.
The present
Jail was con.
struc t ID in
1875, Mr.. Rives
said, and is
now antiquated.
A modern jail
is needed, he
said, to afford
rofo-ISnenin0 Of
The Washington times., 1935-01-04
THE GOLDEN GOOSE

BUDAPEST G.N.S0.-Mor Poll
zer, a shopkeeper, bought a fat
goose in the market for about
rs cents. When his wife cut it
open she found two teeth Of solid
gold in it's gizzard. They sold
the gold for $12.50.
The Washington times., 1935-01-04
, a call for a good actor

bAASA ~ Az ~ VIVA
the KiwanianS
a1w Us have
Frank Peckham
to do q Skit.
Besides these,
there are any
number Of law
yers on the ros-
ter, who can
make good top
hands when the
time comes.
The Washington times., 1935-01-04
JAIL BUSY

WAYNESBORO, Pa, Jan 4
(SpeciaD. - Waynesboro's police
department made 247 arrests in
1884, Chief of Police Stephen w.
Staley has reported. The num-
Der was the highest since 1880.
The Washington times., 1935-01-04
Lawyer Again Heads
DC. Kiwanis Club

Another lawyer took over the"
leadership Of the Kiwanis Club at
the induction ceremonies at the
The Washington times., 1935-01-04
HEAR
R|VESREQUEST
NEW JAIL
BY A. ]. DRISCOLL
Citizens Associations Editor

There is a strong need for a
new District jail, Superintendent
Thomas M. Rives pointed out in
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
T. B. RATE CUT
IN HALF SINCE
1920,IS CLAIM
U. S. Surgeon Cites Figures
at Session of Marion
County Group.

Death rate from tuberculosis has
been reduced more than half since
1920 DR.. K. Z. Miller, senior surgeon
of the United States Public Health
Service, declared today in the prin-
cipal address before the twenty
third annual meeting of the Marion
County tuberculosis Association in
the Lincoln. There was an attend
ance Of $50.
IF we should project this rate Of
decline into the future" DR.. Miller
commended, eve would find tubercu-
losis disappearing from the picture
~ 1850. However, I think none Of
/Is is so optimistic as to expect to
see the elimination Of tuberculosis
in Is years. We must be reconCiled
to slowing up Of this downward
trend"
Seven Of the associations nine di-
Tectors we're reelected. They are
DR.. f. M. Amos, association presi-
dant Mrs. Henry H. Hornbrook,
Mrs. A. c. Rasmussen, Edward w
Harris, John Lauck Jr,, Miss Emma
ClaypOol and Fred A. Sims, The
new directors arc Mrs. Thomas c.,
Howe and Reginald H. Sullivan, for
mer Mayor.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12

first in lower tribunal He went
before the Supreme Court early this
year to argue successfully in a test
Of the gold laws.
Mr.. Cummings will seek a stay in
seven independent injunction pro-
ceedings against the holding COM
pany act. He will ask the court to
suspend the suits until the Supreme
Court has had an opportunity to
rule on the laws legality in a case
brought by the Securities and Ex-
change Commission against the
Electric Bond and Share Co.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
: THE INDIANAPOLIS TIMES

SCI 900 to $4,000 by Criminal Judge
Frank P. Baker. Jacoby is at lib
erty under $4,000 bond. while John
Head and Dukes are still in jail.
Police records OF the Jacoby gang
were obtained this week by the De-
partment of Justice.
Signers Of the Head bond are Joe
Gold, Beech Grove Democratic
election commissioner; Mrs. Anna
Poirier, 934 N. Oxford-st; Mrs.
Elizabeth Barson, 1887 Kessler-
blvd, and Paraschiva Budack, 1902
Nordyke-av.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
SEVEN-YEAR
ITCH EN- D { D

The itch (scabIes) Is highly con-
tagious. If not treated. Ii will continue
for life. IL Is not a blood disease. but
Is caused by the itch mite. which bur
rows and forms torturous galleries
within the skin.
The itch-mite spreads rapidly and
is immune to ordinary treatment. The
PsOric institute has perfected a simple
treatment called ENSORA that kills the
itch mite almost instantly, and rids
you of your trouble in three days.
Get complete ENSoRA treatment ne
once at
~. Dependable Drug
SNN3ESd Stores
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
JACOBY GANG
SUSPECT FREED
IN $4,000 BAIL
AIphonSe Head Is Released;
Bond Is Reduced by
Judge Baker.

Alphonse Head, suspected member
of the Forest Jacoby alleged bandit
gang, is at liberty today on $4,000
bond provided yesterday afternoon.
Head, his brother, John Head;
Jerry Dukes and Jacoby are to be
tried Monday in Criminal Court on
auto banditry charges. They are
under indictment in connection with
eight holdups.
Bond for Head was reduced from
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
MANUFACTURERS
TO HEAR EMERY
Washington Counsel Is to
Discuss New Deal,
Business.

James A. Emery, Washington.
general counsel for the National
Association of Manufacturers is to
address the annual meeting Of the
Indiana Manufacturers Association
tomorrow IN the Columbia Club on
The Manufacturer and Public
Policy"
Mr.. Emery has been with the ma
tional organization for 80 years He
is to discuss the effect of New Deal
legislation on business.
The meeting is to open at 1890
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12

with reports of officials and commit
tees. Russell E. Wilson, association
attorney; Harry NJ. Cochrane, sec
rotary, and James S. Watson. di-
rector, will participate in discussion
Of the Wagner labor bill.
c. T. Hertzsch, Jeffersonville. vice
president. is the outstanding can
didate for president, with Frederick
Holmes, Lafayette, second vice pres
ident, in line to succeed Mr..
HertzSch. Edwin F. Leigh, Marion.
is retiring president.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
BOGUS BILLS CONTINUE
Federal Men Tell How to Detect
Counterfeit $50 Notes.

Counterfeit $50 Federal reserve
notes continue to be circulated here,
Federal officers who issued a warn
ing few days ago declared today.
Discrepancies, the officers state,
can be detected in the circle au-
chemically containing the mineral
4 on the left side of the notes, and
III the right side, in the letter and
7 numerals K-53.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
CUMMINGS ENTERS
HOLDING CO. FIGHT
Attorney-G General in Court
to Oppose Suits.
By United Press

By United Press
WASHINGTON, Dec. u. - The
New Deals determination to battle
for the life of its program to regu-
late utility holding companies was
emphasized today when Atty. Gen.
Homer S. Cummings appeared in
District of Columbia Supreme Court
to defend the governments position.
1t will be his second court appear
ance in behalf of the government
since entering the Cabinet, and his
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
SEEK BASKET FUNDS
West Side Young Republican Club
to Discuss Yule Work.

Means for raising funds to pro-
vide Christmas baskets for needy
families are to be sought tonight at
meeting Of the West Side Young
Republican Club in Veterans Of
Foreign Wars hall. King-av and
Walnut-st. Dancing is to follow the
Y1eetinC
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
Hammond Bicyclist Killed

By United Press
HAMMOND, Ind, Dec. 12.-Stan-
ley Mackwioki, %, Hammond, died
at st. Margaret's Hospital today
from injuries suffered when he was
knocked from a bicycle by an auto
mobile
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
WEEDS GIRL TO PASS
CHECKS; NOW IN LOVE
Jerry O'RiIey Says He Wants to
Reform, BE Worthy of Her
BIZ United Prcsi

81 Cntted Press
CHICAGO, Dec. u. - Jerry
O'Riley. 20, was in Jail today after
giving himself up to police with the
explanation that he married = g.@l
to use her as pawn in cashing bad
checks, only to find that he fell in
love with her and now wants to
reform and be worthy Of her"
ORiley, who said he was a former
entertainer in Los Angeles night
clubs, met Mickey Zell, %, Thanks
giving Day at South Bend, Ind,
and married her three hours later.
He told police he intended to use
her to pass bad checks, which she
did without knowing they were
worthless.
Mickey said she would go to
South Bend with him to face the
check charges.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
FRANKLIN DRIVE ON
Y GAMBLING Is PUSHED
Gaming Houses Next in Campaign
Mayor Announces.

Times Special
FRANKLIN, Ind, Dec, 12-Satis-
fled that a newly launched anti
gambling campaign has resulted in
the disappearance Of slot machines
and punch boards here, Mayor l.. w.
Oliver today directed a probe of
suspected gambling houses.
The first step in the cleanup is
completed" the Mayor announced.
operators expecting the drive to
blow over within a few weeks will
be disappointed Police will check
all places daily and the anti
gambling order is here to stay"
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
PAGE 10
Named School Superintendent

Times Special
NEW ALBANY. Ind, Dec. Ia
Charles NJ. McLinn, former mayor
and high school principal here. was
elected public school superintendent
to succeed Prof. Harry B. Buerk.
Mr. Buerk, who resigned recently
because of i'll health, held the posi-
ton since 1907.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-12-12
GIVES PENSION SPEECH
Rev. Northam, indianapolis, Talks
to 1900 at Marion.
Times Special

iWes Special
MARION, Ind, Dec. 12-The Rev
w L. Northam, indianapolis, ma
tional organizer for the Townsend
Plan, addressed 1900 persons here
last night. Grant County leaders
reporting growth of the pension
movement here. pledged enrolment
Of 5000 members by March /.
The Washington times., 1935-05-24
TODAY'S FEATURES

WRC-Congress Speaks
Marine Band, 5 to $3.50 p.
m. Concert Hour, J to 8
p. m.
WMAL-RObert L. O'Brien,
9:45 to 10 p. m. Beatrice
Lille, 8 to $3.50 p. m.
WJSV-U. S. Navy Band,
$3.50 to 4 p. m. Hollywood
Hotel, 8 to 8 p. m.
WOL-"MuSt War Come"
S:15 to $3.50 p. m. VOL Hay
makers, 1O:45 to 11:15 p. m.
The Washington times., 1935-05-24

Detroit's first annual Interna'
tional Music Festival beginning
today, will be broadcast over
N.B.C. networks.
In the first program of the
event, 5000 public school children
in choral, orchestral and band
ensemble, is to be heard on
WMAL today at 2::30 p. m, and
the next broadcast from the festi'
val will take place on Sunday.
The Washington times., 1935-05-24

TOMORROW
WRC Peoples Lobby"
(speakers), 1880 to $3.50 p. m.
Radio City Patty, 8 to $3.50
p. m.
WMAL-TimeS Radio News,
9:45 to 10 a. m. Los Angeles.
Music Festival, 1880 to $3.50
p. m.
WJSV-Amateur Show, Z to
1880 p. m. Song Time in
Tennessee, 8 to $3.50 p. m.
WOL-ChicagO Opera Co.,
la Juire," 8:45 to 9:45 p. m.
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22
MOONEY CASE IN
STATE HOUSE

OLYMPIA, Wash, Feb21 - A
resolution memoTializing Con-
gress on the release of Tom Moon
ey and setting forth the various
reasons why his conviction was
one of the most infamous cases
of outright class hatred and cap
italist frame-up methods, is to
be introduced by Rep. Clemens
M. Boyle, of King county.
There is no doubt of Moon
ey's inocenee," said Rep. Boyle,
The evidence used against him
was an obvious lie. This case is a
criminal miscarriage of Justice
and should be made an issue in
every state legislature in the
country"
A similar expression was given
by Rep. Michael Smith. Mooney
was so obviously framed that
there is scarcely an intelligent
man left in the country that
does not know it. The fact that
he has remained imprisoned for
so many years is indicative of
the power and tenacity of the
monied interests that placed
him there"
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22
KittitaS JObleSS
Plan Ellensburg
Protest March

ELLENSBURG, WASH, Feb.
2l-In protest against huge cuts,
some as high as go per cent, that
have been made in relief vouch-
ers, Kittitas county unemployed
have organized a countrywide
hunger march on the Federal
Emergency Relief Administra-
tion in Ellensburg. The hunger
march will take place March 1.
Workers will meet at p. m.
at the Ellensburg post office,
and proceed to the FERA office,
where they will submit the fol-
lowing demands:
1. Return of. relief standards
to that of February l. 2. Increase
of relief to meet the increase OF
food prices. 8. Adequate fuel. A.
Rent, lights and water, to be
paid for by the FERA. 5. Union
rates of pay for all skilled work
ers on relief projects, and mini
mum of so cents per hour for
common labor.
The hunger march was called
by the newly organized local OF
the Ellensburg Unemployment
Councils, and is supported by
both the Roslyn and Gle Elum
locals. 4-
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22
Politicians Meet To
Find Cheap Relief

PORTLAND, Feb. 2l-While
the delegated Congress of work
ers from unemployed groups, Ia
Dor unions and veteran organiza-
lions was in session, another
body in the state capitol was
considering the unemployment
problem.
A conference OF county judges
met with Governor Martin and
relief administrator Elmer Gou-
dy in a panic to find some answer
to the question of how to pro-
vide relief without cost to the
wealthy tax payers, since the
ballyhooed liquor tax method
of last year has become the
laughing stock of Oregon. The
best the officials could suggest
was a tax on ''luxuries" and ra-
diOs!
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22
Key Witnesses Disappear as VERA
Graft Investigation Is Throttled;
Mass Pressure Only Hope for Probe

OLYMPIA, Wash, Feb. 81
Whether or not financial and
political interests who fear graft
charges have succeeded in kill
ing the VERA investigation will
be known this week when Speak
err Waldron of the House ap-
points his majority group to
caryT on the investigation of the
Join House and Senate CON-
mitt1v.
Powerful pressure exerted
since the early part of the probe
when key witnesses mysterious
ly disappeared out OF the state
and which continued to show 1t.
self in the disappearance of re.
cords and refusal of VERA heads
to cooperate, will eliminate when
Speaker Waldron names five new
committee members.
WaldrOn, right wing leader. Is
thus in an excellent position to
effectively end the entire work
OF the committee. Allegedly I'M
der strong influence from such
corporation heads as c. Black Of
Black Bear Co., who supplied a
major portion of the clothing ma
terial used In welfare associa-
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22
ANTI FOREIGN
LABOR BILL Is
NOW IN HOUSE

OLYMPIA, Wash, Feb. Plum
less able to show dire emergenr
ey," thousands OF foreign-b born
workers are to be displaced from
jobs on Public Works programs
according to a bill introduced by
Rep. Willis NJ. Hales of King
county, AFL BARRIERS union
member.
The bill, Rep: Hales said, is an
attempt to give discriminatory
powers to contractors and sub
contractors so that jobs will be-
come filled with 100 per cent
Americans. The aliens can not be
cared for when American econ
omy is strained to meet its own
needs and therefore must return
to those countries where rights
of birth give them the first call,
according to Hale's brief for the
measure.
Rep. Hales cited the case of
the King County Hospital which,
he said, SIS almost completely
manned by aliens, mostly Can
adams"
AS to what constitutes a case
of extreme emergency" the bill
does not make clear.
1t is expected that the bill will
meet with wide opposition from
unionists as a viciuos attempt
to split the ranks of labor.
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22
'P.S. & L. BOWS TO
81 STRIKE VOTE
FOR RECOGNITION

SEATTLE, Feb. 21-When the
Electrical Workers Local II and
other locals in the state voted
81 for a strike, the Puget Sound
Power and Light Compa1y final
ly ag: eed to allow their workers
to ballot under the National La
Dor Board on the question Of the
open or closed shop.
The Electrical Workers Union
locals, most of whose members
are employed by the PSP&L,
have been demanding the right
to choose between the PSP&L
company union and the Interna-
tional Brotherhood of Electrical
Workers. The company had pre-
viOusly rejected these demands.
and only the threat of strike fore
ed them to agree to the ballot
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22

lions, and of the Weyerhauser
Timber Co. of Tacoma and Ever.
EFT, and many others who were
closely associated in providing
VERA wants, WaldrOn is re-
garded by the House and Sen.
ate with an extreme degree OF
uncertainty.
Salaries Doubled
Meanwhile, preliminary in
vestigation discloses that the
cost Of administering welfare
was more than double those
estimates published by Ernst
and presest VERA heads. As
an instance Of the common
practice Of entire families
foisting themselves into high
ly paid state and relief Jobs,
Rep. George +. Yantis, Thurs
ton county, was found to have Q
small army Of immediate and
distant relatives placed In the
public trough. All drawing top
wages.
Practically the only assurance
that the investigation will con-
tinue is the intense interest on
the part Of the workers and par
ticularly the unemployed whose
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22
Strike Threat Wins
Demands for Seamen
Bv MA Correspondent

EVERETT, Wash, Feb. 81
The crew of the Julia Lucken.
bach won their demands for bet
ter food and more sanitary liv-
ing conditions when they threat
ened to strike when the ship was
locked in Everett.
One of the representatives OF
the seamen inquired from one OF
the officials of the Everett local
in regard to securing help in case
the captain did not meet their
demands. The Everett official as
sured the seamen that the Long
shoremen would give them all
help possible. Which shows that
we all realize the Importance OF
helping each other in time OF
necessity and struggle.
When the captain saw the men
were determined to better their
conditions, he Immediately start
ed to meet their demands. The re-
suit was that the sailors had new
mattresses on their hunks, new
granite washbasins, and the food
was improved 100 per cent, and
the rest of the demands he gave
his guarantee would be met in a
few DAYS.
The longshoremen and sailors
today realize the Importance of
united action to better each.
others conditions, when one is in
trouble the other will give all
assistance possible. This shows
the Importance of building a
rank and file waterfront fedora
ton, controlled not by labor
racketeers, but by the maritime
workers.
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22
Communist Party Presents
CHI. Nth Unity Proposals

bly, in preparation for war and
fascism.
But the thousands who voted
Commonwealth, Communist and
Socialist, must challenge the
black reaction which is the real
danger in the United States. The
most effective way of fighting
is to unite all forces, irrespective
of their political or religious be-
liefs, in one mighty united front,
Therefore, the Communist Par
ty of District IL proposes to your
convention the following points
for united action:
l. For thirty-hour week at
union rate of pay on all VERA
jobs.
2. Support the building OF
strong AL unions in the state.
g. Against the OFT bill, HR rs.
A. The repeal of the criminal
syndicalism law.
5. For Unemployment and So
cial insurance, HB 1928, and HR
2S27.
We propose this united front
for all or any of these points. We
fully recognize the difference in
program and in the aims of our
Organizatinos, but it is our be.
lief. in spite of all differences, we
can agree on the points raised.
We therefore, suggest that you
! elect a committee of three to
meet with us to discuss and con-
cretize our proposals.
We are also sending letters in.
viting the Continental Commit.
tee on Technocracy, the Socialist
Party, the Seattle Central Labor
Council, and the State Fedora
ltion of Labor to take part in this
united front.
Fraternally yours,
M. RAPPORT,
For the District Executive
Committee, Communist Party
District II.
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22
Nice Talk ButNO
Action on Raid

SEATTLE, Feb. 2l-An Unem-
ployed Citizens League commit
tee protesting the raidinR last
Week of the Workers BOpkshop,
the National Lumber Workers
Union Office and the Fishermen
and Cannery Workers Industrial
Union office, received pretty
speeches but no actor from
Mayor Smith and his chief of
pi Ice.
The city council shuntId the
matter to their Publ: Safety
Committee, Levine, Fits and
Gaines, who were too busy else
where to bother.
Voice of action. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1933-1936, 1935-02-22
Support Is
Growing for
LabOrites
3 Workers Candidates
Backed By Obi Unit
I, for Council

SEATTLE, Feb. 21--A strong
vote for Hudi, Brockway and
Stephens in the primaries Tues
day is seen i'm the growing labor
support for these three workers
ticket city council candidates.
Commonwealth Builders Unit
unanimously voted to endorse
all three after hearing Robert
Stephens tell of the program on
which the three candidates had
joined forces.
Other Commonwealth units
have accorded the candidates en-
thusiastic receptions.
The political welfare committee
of the Central Labor Council,
though it ran true to form in its
endorsement of Levine, Fits and
Gaines, was forced to recognize
the rank and file slate. Question
ed by f. NJ. Hudi, himself dele
gate to the council from the
Roofers' Union, spokesman from
the committee admitted there
were running "three brothers
who would make good council
men," But they were not endors-
ed because they couldn't win"
Small wonder there were many
hayes to a report. The way to
prevent the real representatives
of labor from winning is Ostart
a they can't win" campaign
and political welfare tricksters
know it.
Brockway reports a good re-
ception at both the ColOred Re-
publican Club and the Colored
Democratic club.
The three candidates have been
officially endorsed by the unem-
ployed Citizens League, the Com
munist Party, League of Strug-
gle for Negro Rights.
Rallies this week end in Rain
Ter Valley mark the campaign.
They are: Friday night at McKays
Hall, Rainier and Genesse, Sun
day night at Hillman Unemploy-
ed hall, torch parade in Columbia
City Monday night. Unemployed
Council members, Communists,
Technocrats and Commonwealth
Builders are working together on
these meetings.