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Evening star., 1935-07-26
FRESHMEN ENROLL
IN CRIME COLLEGE
Police Officers of Nation to
Study Methods During
Three.Month Course.
By the Associated Press.

By the Associated Press.
Twenty-one of the Nations finest"
are converging on the Capital-fresh-
men in Uncle Sans first college in
crime prevention.
The school term Is three months.
the campus" the air-cooled quarters
Of the Justice Departments Bureau
Of Investigation.
The crime college, which opens
officially Monday. is unusual in many
ways. Suggested by the 1884 Con-
ference on Crime. it represents the
Federal Governments first attempt
on a large scale to coordinate the
work of city. county. State and Fed
eral law enforcement agencies. For
this reason its sponsors believe its
opening marks new day in society's
war against crime.
Good Results Expected.
Especially enthusiastic and inter-
ested is j. Edgar Hoover, director of
the Investigation Bureau and "prexy"
of the college. Both he and Assist
ant Director Hugh H. Clegg, who will
have immediate supervision of the
work, hope increased good will and
more sympathetic understanding be-
tween Federal and State police au-
thorities will result.
In one respect the college differs
from many other institutions of learn
ing. 1t has no tuition. But the
students" must pay their own travel
ing and living expenses.
A faculty Of Al experts on GRIM
inology will cover sciences and arts
related to the preventing of crime. re-
quiring practical work as well as
book larnin'" of their students.
Work will be done in psychiatry,
ballistics. law, abnormal psychology,
toxicology. trafic control, commune
cations. photography and finger
printing.
To Take Field Trips.
Most of the work viii be carried
out in the Justice Department Build
ing, but field trips will be taken and
one entire week will be spent on the
Marine Corps rife range at Quantico,
Va. The program will follow lines
laid out by a special committee of
the International Association of Police
Chiefs, headed by Andrew j. Kava-
naugh. director of public safety at
Miami. Fla. and Peter ]. Siccardi,
chief Of Bergen County. N. j.. police
Considerable time will be devoted to
the use Of modern police weapons.
Practice will be given in firing from
moving vehicles, firing at moving
targets. silhouettes and bobbing tar
gets, in use of defense equipment,
Of night flares and in night shooting.
Ofiicials said the first class was
small because opening of the &C.
mems" school to non-Federal officers
is an experiment.
Invitations to send one representa-
tive ofiicer went to Boston, Chicago,
Cincinnati, Baltimore. Detroit, Miami,
Dallas, New York City, San Francisco,
Pittsfield, Mass: Prescott, Ariz. /;
Petersburg, Va; Tamaqua, Pa; Ber-
gen County, N. j., and State police
forces Of Connecticut, Delaware. Ohio,
Florida. Pennsylvania, Rhode Island
and West Virginia.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
DIES AFTER OPERATION
Special Dispatch to The Star.

Special Dispatch to The Star.
ROCKVILLE, Md, July 26.-Rich-
ard l.. Edmondston, 73, a native and
former resident of this vicinity, died
Wednesday at East Liverpool, Ohio,
following an operation for appendi-
citis.
He is survived by his widow. Mrs.
Sarah Robinson Edmondston, and a
son, Russell Edmondston of Los An
geles, Calf, by a former marriage.
He also leaves q sister. Miss Louise
Edmondston Of Rockville. The fu-
neral will take place Saturday aft
ernoon at East Liverpool, burial there.
Mr.. Edmondston was a son Of the
late Edward o. Edmondston Of Rock
vile. For many years he had been
successfully engaged in the hotel
business in East Liverpool.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
3 EXPERTS KILLED
IN BLAST TESTING
One of Party Sent to Re.
move Peril at Plant in /.
Canada Escapes.
BY the Associated Press.

BY the Associated Press.
WAvERLY, Nova Scotia, July 26.-
Three experts Of the Canadian In
dustries. Ltd, were dead today after
an explosion Of nitroglycerin near
former manufacturing plant which
buried them under tons Of debris.
Ordered to protect the public against
any danger Of such an explosion, four
men went to the company property
last night to test the ground around
an old plant where explosives had
been manufactured before the war.
Their first test explosion was fol-
lowed by q great blast that crunbled
nearby buildings and tore o large
hole in the ground.
Willis Leighton Of Halifax had been
sent into the woods with surplus
dynamite not required for the opera
ton, and he escaped.
The three killed were Joseph Cole
Of Rigaud, Quebec, a technical ex-
pert on explosives; Harold M. Roscoe,
district sales manager Of the COM
pany's explosive division in Halifax,
and william Pitcher, works manager
OF the company's fertilizer plant in
Halifax.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
SERVICE ORDERS
ARMY ORDERS

Andruss, Col. Malcolm p, Coast
Artillery Corps. to be retired July 81,
The following officers are named as
members of the Washington Promo
ton Examining Board to meet here
Miller, Col. Alexander NJ, jr, Cav
airy; Fair, Col. John S., National
Guard Bureau Cavalry; Herbst, Col
George A., Infantry; Watts. Maj
James M. Medical Corps: Slammed
Maj. Charles A.. Medical Corps;
Trunk, Capt. Otto G, Air Corps
recorder.
Uhl, Lieut.. Col. Frederick E., In
fantry, from ofice of the Chief OF
Infantry. here. to the Panama Canal
Department, December 4.
Danielson, Capt. Arthur E., Quar-
termaster Corps, to be retired July 81.
Dufresne, Warrant Oficer Joseph.
band leader. assigned to duty as
leader Of band, Fort Belvoir, Va.
NAVY ORDERS.
Bureau Of Navigation.
Bibby, Lieut.. Lowe H, orders
March 2s modified; to Naval Acad-
emy, instead 5th Naval District.
Cone, Lieut.. william W., detached
Naval Academy about July S: to U.
8. s. Pruitt as executive officer.
Chaplain Corps.
johnson, Lieut.. John T., detached
q. s. s. Dobbin in July; to Naval
Academy.
Quinn, Lieut.. q. g. David L., de-
tached Naval Academy about July 1:
to U. s. g. Dobbin.
MARINE CORPS ORDERS.
Corbett, Capt. Mural, about August
Is, detached Marine Barracks, Navy
Yard, New York, N. Y, to Army In
dustrial College, washington, D. c.
The following named ofilcers were
promoted to the grades indicated by
and with the advice and consent of
the Senate. on July II, 1885, to rank
from the dates indicated:
Capron, Col. Paul A., June 80, 1885.
Potts, Col. John, June 80, 1885.
Ostermann. Col. Edward A., June
80, 1885.
Marston, Col. John, June 80, 1885.
Brewster, Lieut.. Col. David L. s.,
June l, 1885.
Fassett, Lieut.. Col. Harold s., June
80, 1885.
Moore. Lieut.. Col. James T, June
80. 1885.
Bourke, Lieut.. Col. Thomas E.,
June 80, 1885.
Hunt, Lieut.. Col. lie Roy p, June
80, 1885.
Nimmer, Maj. David r., May 20.
1894.
oloeckner. Maj. Gus L., June 80.
1895.
Shannon, Maj. Harold D., June 80,
1895.
oeer, Maj. Prentice s., June 30.
1885.
Ridgely, Capt. Reginald H, jr.
June 80, 1885.
Bailey. Capt. Caleb T.. June 30,
1885.
Muncie, Capt. John D., June 30,
1885.
burke, Capt. william r.. July I.
1s36.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
CITIZENS REQUEST
BUS ROUTE CHANGE
RandIe Heights Association
Urges Restoration OF
Old Schedule.

A resolution requesting the Public
Utilities Commission to order the
Capital Transit Co. to change Its
routing of buses and improve the
schedule was adopted by Randle
Highlands citizens at a protest
meeting last night in the Junior o.
u. A. M. Hall, 2407 Minnesota avenue
southeast.
The group wants the busses routed
as they were originally.
In furthering their pleas for better
service the commission was asked to
consider erection of a comfort station
at Seventeenth street and Pennsyl.
Evening star., 1935-07-26

Va. Burial will be In st. Fauls Gene
terry.
Surviving Mrs. Finke. who was the
widow of william r. Ffnke, are a
daughter, Mrs. James Drew Marshall;
a sister, Miss Louise Aitcheson. and
two brothers. Jefferson and Andrew
AitchesOn.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
WALLER RITES SET
Body Taken to Cambridge, Book
keepers Home.

The body of Carlton H. Waller, AZ
Of 3220 Connecticut avenue, who com.
mitted suicide yesterday in the of1ict
Of the Marlow Coal Co., where he wa;
employed as bookkeeper, was taken
to Cambridge. Nd, today for buria
tomorrow. Cambridge is walters for
mer home.
Waller shot himself In the head
with q revolver after leaving a note
saying his accounts would be found
short about $4,000. He is survived by
his widow.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
Dfatha.

ARGENT. DAVID, JR. Suddenly. on Thurs
asy July SS 1ss6 a the R2pe Of
Services at the home Of Mrs. Henry
5Ss 5dyaEa: Sa .t arad MN f..pm.ss e Unon
Cemetery. surtonsville. Nd. ~
ATKINSON. FRANCES EMILY. On Thurs
dsy. July 2s, 1885 g. ,vn her IesiSsnee; T.spS e
ATKINSON Funeral from her late resi-
dence on Saturday. July 81, at pm.
Interment Gienwood Cemetery.
CARROLL. BERKLEY d. On THURSDAY,
q ssrEley and Helen Carroll; J / and nd
Carroll i'H and Thomas stosle. He also
leaves several aunts and uncles, other
relatives and friends. Remains resting
at Stswart's funeral home. 80 H st.
ne. until Saturday afternoon at ., N. /;
thereafter at his late residence. Fu-
neral Sunday, July 20, at ] pm, from
Miles c. M. T. Church. 3rd st. NV.
between and New York ave. ~
DENNIS. WILLIAM c. Departed this life
on Tuesday. July %. 1885. after q Ions
illness. WILLIAM c.. DENNIS Of 363 @
st. s.w. He leaves to mourn their loss
0 loving wife Adelaide Dennis; two
daughters. Arnita and Bessie Johnson,
and other relatives and friends. Re.
mains resting at Barnes & Matthews
funeral home. 614 4th st. s.w. Notice
of funeral later.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
MRS. JOHN THOMPSON,
O. E. S. MEMBER, DIES
Had Lived in Washington IS
Years-Nine Children Survive.
Funeral Services Tomorrow.


Mrs. Mary H. Thompson. SO. wife
of John A. Thompson. died yester-
day at her home, 1919 U street SOUTH
east, after q brief illness.
Born in Williamstown. N. j., Mrs.
Thompson had lived here IS years.
She was member of the Eastern
Star.
Mrs. Thompson is survived by her
husband and nine children, Mrs. r.
L. Hammill Of Utah and Mrs. Alva
Tulle, Mrs. Mary Denton, Mrs. Helen
Heiney, Irwin, John L.. Lorenzo, Hugh
and Robert, all of Washington.
Funeral services will be held at the
home tomorrow at 2 pm, followed by
burial in Cedar Hill Cemetery.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
.FINKE RITES TOMORROW

Funeal services for Mrs Matte L.
Finke yho died yesterday at Emer-
gency Iospital, will be held at 3 pm.
tomorrw from the residence, 223
North Washington street, Alexandria.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
Darn nf ThankH

KLEIN. HENRY. We wish to thank rela-
tiyes friends and neiehbors for their
kindness. sympathy and beautiful floral
tributes at the death Of our beloved one.
WIFE AND FAMILY. ~.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
CITY NEWS IN BRIEF.

TODAY.
Meeting. A. F. G. E., District de-
partment, Hamilton Hotel. 9 pm.
Binso party, Eagle Tent. No. 2. In
dependent Order OF Rechabites. Naval
Lodge Hall, Fourth street and Penn
sylvania avenue southeast, 8 pm.
Evening star., 1935-07-26

TOMORROW.
Dinner, District Greeters' Associa-
ton, willard Hotel. 8 pm.
Evening star., 1935-07-26

Monthly precipitation in inches In the
Capital (current month to date):
Evening star., 1935-07-26

Record for Last "A Hours.
(Prom noon yesterday to noon today0
Highest. 90. 1880 pm. yesterday. Year
Lowest. "A. am. today. Year aso. ~.
Record Temperatures This Year.
Hiehest, aS. on July 20.
Lowest. .. on January 2S.
Humidity for Last "a Hours.
CFrom noon yesterday to noon today)
Hishest. "a per cent. at $50 pm. yes
Lowest. 81 per cent. at 1:45 pm. yes
terday.
Tide Tables.
FURNISHED by United States Coast and
Gsodetie Survey
Today. Tomorrow
High 4:31 am. 5:27 am.
Hisb HGT --- b:0s p.m. 5:5sp.na:
Low -- 1I:4O pm. 1924 pm.
The Sun and Moon.
Rises. Sets.
Sun, today ------ 500 12S
sun tomorrow - 5:03 7:2S
Noon, today - 1928 am. 3:5s I'm.
Automobile LIGHTS must be turned on
one-hah hour after sunset.
Precipitation.
Monthly precipitation in inches In the
Capital lcurrent month to date):
Evening star., 1935-07-26
Ths suu and Moon.
Precipitation.

Noon, To-Day ----- IZ.ZS Nm. . TOO p.lh
Automobile lights must be turned on
one-hah hour after sunset.
Evening star., 1935-07-26
THE WEATHER

District Of Colllmbia-Mostly cloudy
and slightly cooler tonight: tomorrow
fair; gentle northeast winds.
Maryland - Mostly cloudy. and
slishtly cooler tonight: tomorrow fair.
Virginia - Mostly cloudy, possibly
showers in south and slightly cooler
In north portion tonight; tomorrow
generally fair.
West vrginia--GeneraIly fair to-
night and tomorrow, preceded by
local thundershowers In southeast
portion this afternoon or early to-
night; slightly cooler tonight in north
portion.
River Report.
Potomac River very muddy and
shenandoah very cloudy this morn
ing.
Report for Last "a Hours.
Temp. Baro. Temp. Baro.
pesree. Inches. Degree Inches
i p.ri.---ss 2s.S 1 a.nn.---74 2s.a7
8 p.m.---s4 2991 8 a.m.---77 30.02
10 M76 200b 10 Noon-70 S0.05
The Kennewick courier-reporter. [volume] (Kennewick, Wash.) 1914-1938, 1935-09-26
DONKEY BALL
PROVES RIOT
Burros Buck Big Bruisers
Before Ball BOunces Into
Bases

Talk about fixed fights and such!
The donkey ball game between
the two Kiwanis clubs, here and at
Pasco, was one of the most fragrant
stunts of the kind ever seen here.
Donkeys, specially trained for
their positions were occupied by the
Kiwanians during the so-called ball
game. After smacking the indoor
ball, the batter was supposed to
mount and head for the first base.
All but one of the donkeys trained
for the purpose, succeeded in Dump
ing the rider before he could be
safe. When they needed a run,
they'd drag out the little buckskin
and around he'd go. Simple as that.
But aside from that, the stunt
proved a riot to the spectators yes
terday evening. As their publicity
stated, if you couldn't laugh at that
game, you were sure in need of a
doctor. Imagine staid business men
trying to stick on a bucking burro
or attempting to throw ball while
straddling one. 1t was the funniest
thing in months.
Kennewick won, so they could
come back again tonight and bring
a big crowd to see them play the
Active club over there.
The Kennewick courier-reporter. [volume] (Kennewick, Wash.) 1914-1938, 1935-09-26
Hot Shot Specials in All Lines
Are to Feature "Kennewick
Day" Saturday; Big Saw
ings Are Offered

Calling attention to the fact that
the Kennewick merchandising Sec
ton offers a complete shopping
service, local business men are this
week pooling their advertising to
make the presentation more APP
parent. Included in the colored in
sert Of the urier-Reporter is an
offering from nearly every line
carried in any shopping center.
Each of the merchants is quoting
one or more "hot shots"
These special merchandising Of
ferS are merely a sample Of the OPP
portunities which the merchants Of
Kennewick have and call attention
to the services available. They rep
resent real bargains and citizens for
miles around can well afford to pur-
chase on account Of the substantial
savings effected.
The thrifty shopper Saturday will
find many things to delight him and
at the same time will be able to
make his money go long way. II
it were possible for one person to
make a single purchase Of each Of
the items listed, the savings would
amount to hundreds Of dollars.
For instance, in the big four-page
ad are listed socks at Z cents q pair,
celery at nickel a bunch, Brillo
soap for SC, hot water bottle for acc,
a sweater for 98c, house dresses at
a dollar, a shotgun for STATS, big
reductions on used cars.
If you're old fashioned you can
buy horehound candy for is cents q
pound, or an electric toaster for
$l.29; tubes at half list price; tires
reduced, electric refrigerator at SOS;
corn at 1-3 cents a can; lemons
at two-bits a dozen, battery for
$3.4o.
Special prices are being quoted on
lumber and other services are being
quoted.
Kennewick merchants wish to inn
press the people in this section Of
their anxiety to serve them and to
demonstrate that they are keeping
abreast of the times with the latest
and best the markets anywhere pro-
vide. In other words that here in
Kennewick is a complete shopping
center equal to that found in the
larger cities.
So study the ads carefully, mark
those you are especially interested
in and bring it to town Saturday.
This is a genuine opportunity to
make big savings.
The Kennewick courier-reporter. [volume] (Kennewick, Wash.) 1914-1938, 1935-09-26
Inquiring Reporter Finds Many
Unusual Things Around Town
Auxiliary Installs

The Legion Auxiliary had it's in
stallation of officers Wednesday
evening with Mrs. Myrtle Fray of
Ellensburg, sixth district president,
as installing officer. The officers in
stalled were: Ella Linn, president;
Hazel Oliver, first vice president;
Ida Stone, second vice president;
Leila Hatch, secretary-treasurer;
Catherine Drenen, sergeant-at-
arms; Marilla Oliver, chaplain and
Bee Behrman, historian. There were
twenty-five members present and
six of the Pasco auxiliary present.
Mrs. Linn was presented with
past presidents pin and Mrs. Fray
with corsage. Refreshments were
served at decorated table of red
roses and white candles with silver
holders. Mrs. Linn and Mrs. Booth
of Pasco presided at the table. The
hostesses included Margaret o.
Hearn, Ida Stone, Mona Thompson
and Marjorie Yedica.
The Kennewick courier-reporter. [volume] (Kennewick, Wash.) 1914-1938, 1935-09-26

day night at 500. This meeting is
being sponsored by the churches
thru the Ministerial Association.
Jack Mitchell, who has an Irish ac-
cent, is an internationally known
Bible teacher, being the leader of
over 100 Bible classes in Portland.
He is also one of the Bible teachers
at the Evangelical Theological Col
lege il Dallas, Texas, teaching there
one month in the year. The Meth
odist church was chosen as the
meeting place because Of its size
There viii be many people in both
Kennewick and Pasco who will want
to hear the message that Jack Nit
chell will present. The first week OF
October has been set aside all over
the world to commemorate the
4o0th anniversary of the first Eng
lish Bible, the Coverdale Bible.
The subject for Wednesday, Oct
ober 2, will be Three Kinds of PEG.
pie and the Scriptures"
People are invited to bring Their
oldest Bibles to this meeting as hon.
orable mention will be given the one
having the oldest Bible. 1t will bt
interesting to see the many differ
ent sizes and types of Bibles thai
will be exhibited at the services.
The Kennewick courier-reporter. [volume] (Kennewick, Wash.) 1914-1938, 1935-09-26
MICKEY M. TO
CUT BIG CAKE
Birthday Party at Theatre
for Movie Character to
Be Featured

The Courier-Reporter and Liber-
ty theatre Mickey Mouse Birthday
party, which has been planned for
this Saturday in honor Of the sew
enth birthday Of the screens most
beloved cartoon character, promises
to be big event from last-min-
ute indications.
In connection with the huge mer.
chandise value array that has been
arranged by every store in Kenne-
wick for Saturday, the Liberty the
atre has fallen into step by flinginR
this big party.
The largest cake ever baked I'm
Kennewick is being prepared by the
Rennewick Bakery for Mickey's
birthday and viii be served free Ia
the theatre foyer to the patrons.
Many Of the stores Of Kennewick
have arranged through the Courier
Reporter for special merchandise
displays at the theatre SATURDAY..
among them being a coffee demon
stration.
In honor Of this special event the
doors of the theatre win open at /
pm. and continuous shows will he
run from that time on until mid
night. A special price Of cents
Tor kids and adults rs cents until
5 pm. viii be featured, after that
hour the regular price schedule to
prevail. - -
The special movie program will
consist Of four Mickey Mouse car
toons, two of them in fun color. and
the feature film, Red Hot fires !"
starring Lyle Talbot and Mary
Astor.
AN al new program will start
at the Liberty Sunday with Kav
Francis and George Brent taking
the leads in STRANDED" .
The Kennewick courier-reporter. [volume] (Kennewick, Wash.) 1914-1938, 1935-09-26
TWO SMITHS TO
CHICAGO
AS DELEGATES
Dale and All to Represent LO-
cal Townsend Club a Ma
cal Townsend Club at Ma
Month r.-. r Il
(contributed)

The Kennewick Townsend club
No. / met Monday evening at the
Congregational church basement
with over a hundred in attendance,
several from other clubs as visitors
G. @. Genres, president from the
Richland club, gave a very interest
ing talk. He reported that their club
contained two precincts Of about
276 voters and they have 243 MEM
beers from those precincts.
MIR. Tracy also gave very pleas
ant talk. Our club still grows. We
will have Mr.. Huston from Pasco
who is the president Of their newly
organized Junior Townsend club, as
a speaker next Monday evening. Do
not forget the date. Come and hear
what the younger men and women
think Of the Townsend plan.
Dale Smith, our very loyal presi-
dent, was chosen by an overwhelm-
ing vote to be our delegate to Chi
cago and our secretary, Mr.. Al
Smith, chosen as alternate. We
want to publicly thank the WASH
ngton Hardware Co. for furnish
ing a radio so we won't miss the
Townsend address on Monday eve
nings. MIR. Stradford at the Drive
In-Grocery has the free speeches.
60 and get your copy every week.
The Kennewick courier-reporter. [volume] (Kennewick, Wash.) 1914-1938, 1935-09-26
PETERS GETS
. BACKING FOR
NIB. HIGHWAY
Towns in Eastern Washington
Pledge Support at Good
Roads Convention Now in
Session at Olympia i

Splendid cooperation and strong
backing from their delegations was
received for the North Bank high
way Monday when George D..
Peters, secretary of the local cham
Der of commerce, accompanied by
County Commissioner Jay Perry
made trip to the towns in eastern
Washington. -.@
This action was taken just pre-
vious to the annual meeting of the
Washington Good Roads conven-
ton now being held in Olympia. In
every case the local representatives
were promised hearty support. to the
move to have this section of road
adopted as an official part of the
state highway system. s.
The men made all the towns be-
tween here and Spokane, returning
by way of ColfaX, Charleston and
Waitsburg, completing the nearly
five hundred mile trip in the one
day. ..-........ ~ -
The Kennewick courier-reporter. [volume] (Kennewick, Wash.) 1914-1938, 1935-09-26
BEING HERO rs
NOT PLEASANT
AT THE TIME
Rescues Two Men But Job
Was Hard and Cold and
Wet; All Three Were too
Frightened to Talk

A hero feels pretty good after his
stunt has been completed, but do
ing the job is far from fun. This
is the way Harry Watson expresses
his feelings regarding the rescue he
made of the two marooned men
from the Snake river this week.
The two men, residents Of Bur-
bank on the Pasco side of the river,
had gone up the Snake for wood.
They had built raft and planned
to float it down. They had a boat
tied to the raft, upon which they
were riding.
Hitting the swift water, the boat
pulled loose and the raft slid up on
and split apart on a big rock as they
were shooting the swift water. One
of the men was a cripple and could
use but one arm and neither could
swim a lick.
The big rock upon which they
were stuck was surrounded with
deep swift water.
Neighbors discovering their plight,
tried to rescue them with row boats
but the water was too fast to get to
them Finally word was sent to the
fishermen on the Columbia, who
were using motor boats. Bert Plow-
man and Game Commissioners
Harry Watson made the run up the
snake about four miles to where the
men were clinging to the rock.
In the swift water, surrounded by
big Snags, Mr.. Watson manoeuvered
the craft, narrowly missing hidden
crags which might have punched
holes in the frail craft. Pulling the
boat over the shallower rapids here
and there, was no small job in it
self, and the water was just awful
ly cold, he said.
you know" he said, when I got
to those two fellows I was so scared
that I just could talk. And they
were so frightened that they could
not answer. Believe it or not, that
stunt wasn't any fun, either for me
or them"