Evening star., 1935-01-25

lection where you were the nlgnt OF
March IL?
A. What day of the week was it?
@. Saturday.
A. I really don't know, it's hard to
remember.
Q. But were you at woodlawn
Cemetery?
A. was not.
Q. Did you climb over any gate and
run away from DR.. Condor?
A. Certainly not.
Reilly showed him picture of the
frankfurter stand near the cemetery
where Jafsie found a kidnap note.
@. Were you ever in that frank
furter stand?
A. No, was not.
@. Did you ever sit on a bench
there and talk to DR.. Condor.
A. No.
@. Did you ever see this shack Gn-
dicating the place where DR.. Condor
and the kidnaper talked, seated on
bench)?
A No.
@. Did you ever sit there coughing
with DR. Condor?
A. No.
His answers were given naturally
and frankly.
Reilly turned from the witness.
Bring out the ladder" he directed.
Hauptmann looked speculatively at it.
Hauptmann Grins as He
Denies Building Ladder.
Reilly, reaching for the kidnap lad
der, asked, Now how many years,
Bruno. have you been a carpenter?"
About 10 years" Hauptmann re-
piled
@. Did you build that ladder?"
A. I am carpenter.
He grinned and the court room tit
tered
Quiet" shouted the ushers.
@. Did you build that ladder?
A No.
@. Have you noticed its construc-
ton?
A. 1 have been noticing it.
Reilly called Hauptmann from the
stand to examine the ladder.
Q. In your opinion does it look like
Well-made ladder?
A. 1t doesn't look like a ladder at
all, I don't know how a man can
step up.
Almost Growls in Denying
He Transported Ladder.
@. Did you ever take that ladder
from the Bronx to Hopewell in your
car?
A. l never transported a ladder.
@. Did you take this ladder?
A. No (Hauptmann almost growled
that negative)
Q. Did you at any time have that
ladder on Col Lindbergh's estate?
A. No
@. Did you put it against his wall
or climb it or come down it?
A. No.
Q. Did you leave it 70 feet away
in the bushes?
A. No.
Hauptmann was then led into a re-
cital of his life at the Bronx house.
He named the persons living in the
small three apartment frame build
ing.
Denies Removing Board
From Attic at House.
@. So there was a landlord and
two tenants living in your house?
A. That's right.
@. Now there has been exhibited
| here a board out of the attic of your
house. Did you take any board from
the attic of your house?
A No.
@. Did you take any board and
carve or cut it?
A I did not.
@. There was nothing in your attic
when you moved in?
| A No. it was empty.
Reilly brought to the witness the
! chlsel found on the Lindbergh estate.
G. l ask you if you brought this
chisel to the Lindbergh estate?
Declared He Never Owned
Chisel Offered as Evidence.
| A. This chisel was never in my pos
session; 1 never owned it.
He examined the tool very minute
ly, turning it over in his hands be-
| fore he answered.
@. Now carpenters can buy chisels
! from a supply house?
A. Every hardware store.
@. Anybody can buy a chisel. He
doesn't have to be carpenter?
A No.
@. Anybody can buy tools?
A. If you can pay for 1t. that's all
right. Yes.
A faint murmur of suppressed
laughter arose. Lindbergh did not
smile. He kept watching the witness
Reilly next turned his attention to
st. Raymond's Cemetery. Another de-
lay occurred while the kidnap ladder
and attic board were removed from in
front of the map.
@. How many miles, in your judg-
ment, is St. Raymond's Cemetery
from your home?
A. 1 can only figure on the scale
What is the scale?
@. Quite a number blocks, isn't it.
A. Yes.
Declares He Walked
By Cemetery Years Ago.
Reilly pointed to the cemetery on
the map.
@. Were you ever there?
A. Yes. About six years ago. but
not in the cemetery. I walked by.
Q. Where were you going?
A. To visit friends at Frogg's Neck
@. Are you familiar with this por-
ton of the Bronx Indicating st. Ray
mond's Cemetery?
Hauptmann stepped down and with
his arms outstretched indicated the
center section of the map. His ges-
ture did not include either cemetery
connected with the crime.
@. Now on April 2, Saturday night
were you in st. Raymond's Cemetery
and did you receive $4,000 from DR.
Condor?
A. did not. A faint smile accom-
panied the answer.
@. Is that the night you testified
to concerning the musical, first Sat-
urday of the month?
A. Yes.
@. Did you go out?
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