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Test Proves Dog Is
Free From Rabies

HARLINGEN, May "a negative
reaction was had in the test made
Of a dog which bit the small son Of
B. H. Lindsey near here this week,
according to word received by DR..
e. p. Savage. city veterinarian, from
the state laboratory in Austin We'd
resday afternoon. 1t was thought
possible that the dog might be suf-
fering from rabies but treatment
will not now be necessary.
DR.. Savage pointed out that this
case happened in the country but
that there has not been a case in
the city for about two months.
, 1935-05-09
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Impeding Progress

COUNCIL BLUFFS, Iowa
Three kittens held up movement
Of freight cars in the railroad
yards here Wednesday while four
railroad men lacked up a tank
al and rescued them. They had
gone cumming in a berth Of
their own making under the car.
"A roundhouse crew adopted them
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
iCubans Eliminate
The Possibility OF
Communist Rule

HAVANA, Cuba, March q
(UP). - Government and opposi-
ton forces struggled for adyan-
tage yesterday in the turbulent
situation imperiling eXlstenre OF
the Mendieta regime.
Fighting to maintain itself
against threats of student-inspired
revolutionary strikes, the cabinet
named a mixed commission OF
workers and employers to study
demands of transportation en-
ployees. ,nc
Reliable sources said the Abe
Society and authentic revolution
aries, traditionally hitter foes
had reached a mutual understand
ing ing to prevent communist DONNA
ton in event the general strike
succeeds in overthrowilg the gov
eminent.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
Fassifern Girls To
Offer Three Plays
Monday Evening
"Six Who Pass While the
Lentils Boil" First of
Plays To Be Given

Monday evening, March a, at 8
o'clock the dramatic club of Fas-
sifern school will present three
l-act plays in the chapel of the
school.
These dramatizations represent
three types. The first is a fan
tasy, a retelling of what happen
ed then young boy kept prom
Use in "Six Who Pass While the
Lentils Boil" This cast includes:
Laurette Bodziner, Anne Wilds.
Grace Milford, Yvette Padgett,
Ann Harris, Peggy Warner, Mar
gerry McLain and Nancy Lee
Richardson.
The second play is drama
concerning itself with social con-
ditions as they existed in 1870
showing how these conditions al
fected the little family OF an
Americanized Italian shoemaker.
The cast includes: Mary Conally
Coke, Gladys Pratt, Sally Rogens-
burg, Betty Marshall, and Anne
Putnam.
The last is a comedy concern
ing that most-shunned of all IN
gradients of the dieter's menu,
Three Potatoes for Mary" It's
cast includes: Maxine Dunlap,
Harriet Luther, Pauline Garrou
and Lucy Anne Howard;
Everyone is very cordially IN
vited to attend these plays.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
CHRISTIAN SCIENCE

"Christ Jesus" Will be the SUD-
ieet of the lesson-sermon in all
churches and societies of Christ,
Scientist, on Sunday, March 8.
The Golden Text will be from
Colossians 1868, "As We have
therefore received Christ Jesus
the Lord, so walk We in him: For
in him dwelleth all the fulness OF
the Godhead bodily.
Among the citations which COM
prise the lesson-sermon is the fol-
lowing from the Bible: Behold,
the days come. saith the Lord,
that | will perform that good
thing which | have promised unto
the house of Israel and to the
house of Judah. In those days,
and at that time, will l cause the
Branch of righteousness to grow
up unto David; and he shall exc
cute judgment and righteousness
in the land" Jeremiah 1914 ,14)
The lesson-sermon also include:
the following passage from the
Christian Science textbook, "Sci'
ence and Health with Key to the
Scriptures by Mark Baker Eddy
"The word Christ is not properly
a synonym for Jesus, though it is
commonly so used. Jesus was q
human name, which belonged to
him in common with other He
brew boys and men, for it is
identical with the name Joshua,
the renowned Hebrew leader. On
the other hand, Christ is not a
name so much as the divine title
of Jesus. Christ expresses Gods
spiritual, eternal nature. The
name is Synonymous with Mes
siah, and alludes to the spiritual
ity which is taught, Illustrated and
demonstrated in the life of which
Christ Jesus was the embodi-
ment." Up. 333)
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
MACHINERY IS
BIG j. S. need
Say Pent-up Orders Would
Give 4 Million Men Z
Years Work
BY MAX L. BROWN
1I,;..J pres, Financial Writer

NEW YORK, March 2.-lOf)'
T. would take 100000 workmen
two wears to produce the Slo'-
574, 100000 pent-up demand for
machinery accumulated during the
depression since 1929, the Ma
, chinery and Allied Products lnstl'
tute announced recently on con
clusion OF q nationwide survey.
The institute, meeting here
said the survey upholds the con-
viction that recovery lies in re-
employment in the realm of capt.
tai goods industries. The survey
hronght out the following points
/ A pent-up demand for ma
cbinerv accumulated during the
depression years since 1929,
amounting to an indicated total of
.S18,574,000,000.
2. Prospective payroll to labor
employed in the manufacture Of
these machinery requirements
amounting to approximately S12,-
O73,60O,00O.
8. A prospective total of 90
123,OO0,0OO man hours of labor
in producing the machinery re-
quired to meet the accumulated
requirements.
4. Potential employment for
two years of a force equal to A.
100000 workmen - more than
four times the present number of
workmen in the machinery indus
tries-a several-year task for ma
chinery plant capacity to handle
in the production of machinery
needed to meet the accumulated
demand.
The machinery industry itself
is not equipped to handle this
huge demand in the time set
forth. The industry in 1929 en-
ployed 100000 workers. "Nat-
the survey said, "it would
be a physical impossibility for
them to expand their facilities to
employ the 100000 workers
needed to meet machinery re-
auirements over a two-year per-
Rod"
Hence the institute warned
manufacturers to enter the mar
ket at once for their plant equip
ment requirements for rehabilita-
ton. .
From one-fourth to one-half OF
the machinery now installed in
American plants, the survey said,
is out-dated, greatly deprecated
or obsolete and ready for the junk
pile. To replace it would require
nearly four times the amount OF
money sought by the President
for work relief.
The survey also disclosed that
the overwhelming bulk of the ma
chinery and equipment that pro,
duced more than $70,0OO,0 900, 900
worth of goods of every descrlp-
ton alone in 1929 is still in place,
and that attempts to manufacture
goods with this out-dated plant
are costing American consumers
dearly in higher production costs
and selling prices.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
GROVE STREET GOSPEL

GROVE STREET GOSFEL
1.-THE Church of the Open Book
Rev. F. G. Mackenzie, pastor.
Sunday school at GAS a. M, in
charge of Mr.. C. 6. Fullbright
Classes for all.
Preaching service at IL a. m
Message by the pastor. Commun-
ion will follow this service.
During the afternoon the vari-
Gus Gospel Groups will be en-
gagged in preaching the Gospel in
the surrounding communities.
At $50 p. m, the Young Peo-
pies Societies (Senior and Jun
lori will meet. A hearty welcome
to all young people.
At Gas p. m. - The Prayer
Group will meet.
At 1880 p. M. the evening Cos
mel service. Subject, The Brazen
On Monday evening at 1880, the
regular meeting of the Board Of
Elders. oo
On Tuesday evening at 7:3o'
the choir will rehearse:
On Wednesday evening at ':"V
the regular prayer praise ana
testimony meeting. ,o
On Thursday afternoon at Z:@o
the Ladies' Prayer and Mission
airy group. A.,
On Friday evening at 1870 the
raouIar sessions of the Land OF
the Sky Bible school ,1
A hearty invitation is EXTENDED
TO all our services.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
ST. PAUL A. M. E. ZION

Rev. H. A. keaton, pastor.
1915 a. m.-Junior church SER
vice.
The presiding elder, Rev. w. M.
Anderson, will preach at II a. m.
on the subject, "Christ, the Way"
At 1880 p. m, his subject will be,
"'Only a Touch"
3p. m.-The pastor will preach
on the subject, "The Seven Sc
crets in the Writing of First Epis-
tie General of John"
The Junior choir will sing at
the evening service, At the same
hour we will have words from
Mrs. Maggie Jones, of Asheville,
state representative for delinquent
girls of our race.
The public is cordially invited
to attend all of our services. Come
and bring your friends.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
First BAPTIST

Rev. Broadus z. Jones, pastor.
Sunday school, GAS a. M; w.
B. Sinclair, superintendent.
Morning service, IL o'clock
sermon by pastor.
Evening service, 1880 o'clock
with administering of body and of
blood.
B. Y. P. U. and story hour
6:15 p. m.
B. Y. P. U. study course week,
beginning Monday at 1880 p. M,
for seniors, Intermediates, juniors
and leaders.
Monday, $50 p. m.-Circles of
W. NJ. S. meet as follows: Lottie
Moon, Mrs. R. c. Bennett, in Hy-
man Heights; Mamie Bomar, Mrs.
c. V. Brown, III Justice street /;
Fannie Heck, Mrs. w. L. Swan
son, in Maxwell Apis; Martha
Sullinger. Mrs. VIM. Lott, Flat
Rock Drive; Sarah Egerton, Mrs.
j. Foy Justice, Oakland street.
Monday. 10 a. m.-Association-
al Ministers conference, in Lewis
house.
Monday, 1880 p. m. Deaeons
meet in Lewis house.
Tuesday, 4:S0 p. MI. L. l..
Sunday school class will meet in
their room in Lewis house.
Wednesday, 1880 p. m.-Prayer
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
CATHOLIC SERVICES
nn,rulate Conception Church

I'm Inaccurate >oA~~f-
Seventh Ave. at Church st.
Rev. Philip ]. O'Mara, pastor ,
900 a. m. Sundays: Mass and
sermon.
1000 a. M: Sunday school.
Wednesday: Ash Wednesday,
blessing and distribution Of ashes
mass 1880. Ashes distributed again
after Lenten service at 4 p. m.
Catholic Lenten Services
March 6: Ash Wednesday: at 4
o. M, first Lenten sermon: "The
Manner of Our Redemption"
Blessed ashes will be distributed.
Fridays every Friday till Eas-
ter: at 4 p. M, The Way of the
Gross, and Benedietion of the
Most Blessed Sacrament.
Sundays, every Sunday till Eas-
ter at 5 D. M, Lenten sermon Sc
ries. Subjects will be announced
every Saturday.
Tomorrow, Sunday, at 5 p. m:
The HOLY Mass, illustrated by ac-
tual ceremonies, and accompanied
by descriptive lecture.
Lenten practice of devout Cath
olics everywhere: To attend Holy
Mass daily, if at all possible.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
Find Huge Cave,
Prehistoric Relics

CAHORS, France, March q
CUP).-A huge cave leading to
unexplored subterranean CALLER
les and passageways has been dis
covered near here b. French
speleologists-scientific cave ex-
plorers-it was announced today.
The explorers made their dis
covery while digging for prehis-
toric relics. Members of their
party, lowered into the cave by
ropes, found pottery, stone age
instruments and human bones.
All were well preserved.
From the main cavern radlated
passageways to galleries and
smaller caves. All were con-
nected by a series of small tun-
nelS.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
ST. JAMES EPISCOPAL

Rev. James P. Burke, rector.
8 a. m.-Holy communion.
$50 a. m.-Church school.
II a. m.-Morning service and
sermon.
$3.50 p. m.-Service at Upward.
1880 p. my. P. S. L. meet
ing.
The following schedule of SER
vices for the Lenten season, open
ing Ash Wednesday, March 6, not
including the last week of Lent,
Holy Week, has been arranged:
Ash Wednesday - Holy COM
munion and address, 1880 a. m.
Rector's discussion and reading
class. each Wednesday at 8 p. m
Sundays-In addition to regu,
lar Sunday services, there will be
musicale vesper at 8 p. m.
Services every Tuesday, Wed.
nesday excepting Ash Wednes,
day. Thursday and Friday at A 80
p. m.
Holy communion every Friday
with special intercessions for mis-
sions, for sick and distressed peo-
pie, at 1880 a. m.
A separate announcement con-
corning the services for Holy
Week and Easter will be made
later.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
DEFENSE AID OFFERED

MENA, Ark, March 2.-(UP).
-Lucien Koch, 29-year-old presi-
dent of Commonwealth Labor col
lege which is under investigation
by the state legislature, said to-
day that Arthur Garfield Hays, in
ternationally famous attorney for
the American Civil Liberties
Union, had offered to help defend
the school. .r
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
DEFEATED
BY MAROONS
But Bearcat b Team Lifts
Victory From Blue
Ridge b Five

In a one-sided and uninterest-
mo pame, the Hendersonville
Resrcats dropped 33 to II deci-
i G to the Asheville Maroon Dew
lis on the local gymnasium moor
last night. - A.,
Rearcat "B" team defeated the
Blue Ridge "B" team by a 10 to
6 score. ,+ oro,,
TO an early lead and coasted thru
without ever being in danger al
though the Cats put up game
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
COLORED CHURCHES
STAR BETHEL BAPTIST
Rev. G. H. Levant, minister.

Kew. g. II. Levant, minister.
The pastor announces that the
Sunday morning message theme
will be "The Blessed Hope" and
in the evening worship the SER
mon subject will be '"The Abid-
ing Holy Spirit" The sermon
subject for the evening worship
is the beginning of a series of
discourses on the "Holy Spirit. y
Wednesday at s p. m. prayer
meeting followed by the Mems
Bible class.
We are a church that love our
visitors, so come and worship with
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
SUES PARENTS

FAIRMONT, w. Va. (UP).-
Claiming that her parents made
her carry heavy five-gallon cans
of milk so that she slipped and
fell and injured herself, Mary
Katheryn Fetty is suing them for
$4,000 damages in circuit court
here.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
FIRST METHODIST

Rev. Claude Moser, pastor.
| Sunday school at 9:45 a. M
L. R. Geiger, general superinten.
dent; II. C. Ransom, teacher Mems
Bible class; Mrs. j. r. Stokes,
teacher Susannah Wesley Bible
class; Miss Bessie Allen, teacher
Philathea Bible class; Mrs. Mabel
/ Baughman, teacher Young Wo-
mans Bible class: Bert Colt,
teacher Young Mems Bible class.
IL a. m.-Morning service. Ser
mon by pastor. Theme: "Consid-
ering the Lilies
5 p. m.-E1ening service. Ser
mon by pastor. Theme: Having
Confidence.
Monday afternoon at $50, the
circles will meet as follows: No. l
will meet in the church parlor;
No. will meet in the home of
Mrs. G.. w. Brooks, and No. 3 will
meet in the home of Mrs. w. H.
Justice, with Mrs. L. p. Sims,
joint hostess.
Monday evening at 1880 o'clock
the monthly meeting of the board
of stewards will be held in the
home of Earl Penny. Every men,
Der of the board is asked to be
present.
Wednesday evening at 1880
o'clock-mid-week prayer service
will be held in the church hut.
Thursday evening at 7:SO, the
Young peoples meeting will be
held in the church hut. !
The public is cordially invited
to attend the services of the
church. You are a stranger here
only once. NJ,
0rganist and directress, Mrs.
Paul English.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
PRESBYTERIAN

DR.. l.. L. WlIdS, PASTOR
Sunday school at GAS 4. M
Harold Flanagan, superintendent
Mems class in the church house.
Morning worship. IL o'clock
sermon subject, 1.-THE Lord IN
Need"
Vesper service. o'clock-ser.
mon subject, "The First Word
From the Cross" This IS the first
of a series of seven messages on
"The Seven Words From the
Cross"
Woman's Auxiliary executive
board-Monday, $3.50, in church
house.
Prayer meeting-Wednesday at
T:3O D. m, in the church house,
presenting the sixth of a series
outlining the Bible.
The religious census of the COM
munity will be made Sunday aft
ernoon. Those who are to take
part in it are asked to meet at the
Baptist church at 2 p. m.
Visitors are welcome at all OF
our services.
The musical program for sery'
ices at the Presbyterian church
has been arranged as follows:
MORNING SERVICE
Anthem-----Pr Praise Ye the Lore
(Gounod)
N
(Wilson)
EVENING SERVICE
Lift Thine Eyes - Mendelssohr
Ladies' Voices
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
GRACE LUTHERAN
4 Church With q Message

"a Church with q Message)
Rev. A. w. Lippard, pastor.
Sunday school, 9:45 a. M; B.
G. Brown, superintendent.
Morning worship at IL o'clock.
intermediate Luther League al
2:30 p. M, Senior League al
$50.
Woman's Missionary society
viii meet Monday evening at 7 sc
o'clock in the home of Mrs. W
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02

Never give thanks for suckers.
They buy your sour stocks, but
next year they support a crazy
pension scheme that takes all the
profits.
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02

R. Rusher.
Ash Wednesday service, We'd
nesday evening at tbs O'Clock.
Service to be held in the home
OF Mr.. and Mrs. G.. C. Hewitt.
Special solo number by Mrs. O.
A. Meyer, at the II o'clock serv-
ice.
We invite you to worship with
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02

.,,S S',Nncss has its u.s., :,
snap on the lights a. a,'s' =
s Sew. know how n.ary . ~! I
lncf" are in the kitcbs s%S
The times-news. [volume] (Hendersonville, N.C.) 1927-current, 1935-03-02
CONE TO CHURCH SUNDAY

meeting.
Thursday, $3.50 p. m.-Special
meeting of G. A, for prayer for
home missions, in Lewis house,
The Washington times., 1935-03-01
ADVERTISER EMIT
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The Washington times., 1935-03-01
Radio of Future
TOFlaSh Entire
Page of Copy

NEW YORK, March / 0N.S0.
''Micro-wave facsimile transmits.
sion," in other words, the flash
ing of entire pages of hand or
typewriter copy by radio, was
mentioned as a future possibility
in the annual report of the
Radio Corporation of America
However, the report empha-
sized that practical use of this
method presents a number of
complex problems still to be
overcome.
The report said that an ex.
perimental micro-wave facsimile
circuit will be placed in service
this year between New York and
Philadelphia.
One of the greatest Difficult
ties is that these ultra,short
radio waves which are meas
ured in inches carry only about
as far as the eye can see.
The Washington times., 1935-03-01
To BOOST
AIR MAIL PAY
DISPUTED
International News Service
Congressional disagreement over

International News Service
Congressional disagreement over
proposals giving the Interstate
Commerce Commission authority
to increase contract rates of air
mail operators today threatened
legislation requested by President
Roosevelt for financial relief Of
the carriers.
A special committee composed
of House and Senate members
and representatives Of the ICC
and Post office Department had
been named by the President to
formulate recommendations for
Congress.
Members of the committee
failed to agree on allowing rate
increases. House sponsors Of air
mail legislation who sat with the
group favored the increase while
Senator McKellar CD, Of Ten.
nessee, chairman of the Senate
Post Office Committee, signified
opposition.
DAS@BACC OA 1GAVCS
AS a result, a House Post Of
flee subcommittee approved a
proposal permitting the ICC to
raise compensation up to 20 per
cent whenever operators can
show proof they are losing
money on contracts.
This proposal was embodied in
an amendment to a bill by Chair
man Mead CD Of New York. The
measure Originally provided for a
5 per cent increase. Senator Nc.
Kellar indicated he will fight the
20 per cent increase.
Permit Longer Routes
While failing to agree on this
proposal, the special committee
approved increasing the route
mileage permitted under existing
law to $4,000 miles. At present
carrier may not hold airmail con-
tracts for a route in excess of 29,.
600 miles.
The present maximum of 10000
scheduled miles which one con-
tractor may fly was raised to 49,.
900.
These two recommendation
have been incorporated into Mr..
Mead's bill.
The House committee is ex-
pected to report the measure next
week.
The Washington times., 1935-03-01

More equipment for Washing
tons Fire Department is an alb
solute necessity, H. E. Rainey, Of
the Fire Underwriters Association,
told the Washington Consumers
Council yesterday.
Mr.. Rainey defended the request
for eight pieces of new apparatus
the department has asked Of Con-
gress. The request has been pared
down to two. and the House has
cut the appropriation for new
equipment to $18,5OO, inadequate
for more than the two least ex-
pensive of the eight needed, ac-
cording to Mrs. John Boyle, jr., of
the Consumers Council.
Mr.. Rainey said:
"If Chief SchrOm has asked
for equipment, it is a fOregOne
conclusion he must have it. He
has asked for as little as
possible"
The Ladies' Auxiliary of the
Fire Department went on record
yesterday favoring apparatus.
The equipment includes pumping
engines, $4,000; four hose wagons,
$4,000; two aerial trucks, $780,
900,
The Washington times., 1935-03-01
NFFE To he AR
RANSPECK.

Representative Robert w. Rams.
peck CD, Of Atlanta, Ca, will
addres organized employees of the
War Department Tuesday eve
ming at 8'p. m, in the audito-
rum at ITO Fourteenth St. N. w.,
according to Miss Gertrude M.
McNally, secretary-treasurer of
the National Federation of Fed
eral Employees.
Mr.. Ramspeck, who is chair
man of the House Civil Service
Committee, will discuss the sick
and annual leave bills he intro
duced in Congress and the posi-
bility of extending the merit SyS-
tenn to Government workers in
the field"
The NFFE membership drive
will be discussed Wednesday
when the organization committee
and executive council meet at the
same place, Miss McNally said.