Evening star., 1935-01-31
Conversation With Wife
About Dog Revealed
From Stand.
Continued From First Page.)

man saying to him in German, Some
body want to take away the dog that
is the way how I remember the whole
thing, because he saying that in Ger
man. Then looked up at the man
and drink my coffee and walk off.
] forget the whole thing"
What did the man say in German
to the lady?"
"Je man hat vol das Dog-das Humid
Vechnamen.
He translated it to somebody
wanted to take the dog away"
Points to Hauptmann.
"Now, did you see the man in the
court room" Reilly continued.
Yes, sir"
THAT you saw come in with the dog
and speak those words in German?"
"YeS, sir"
"Where is hep"
Kiss stood up. He stretched long
arm toward Hauptmann.
Right there"
Hauptmann stood up.
'.Is that the defendant you are
speaking OFF"
YES" he confirmed.
Before CarlStrom's croSs-eXamina-
ton was resumed today defense attor-
neys called the prosecutors before the
Judges bench for a long whispered
conference 1t was learned later the
defense was complaining of published
statements purporting to have come
from the prosecutors to the effect that
defense witnesses would be investl-
gated for possible perjury.
When Wilentz, who sought to smash
Carlstrom's credibility, asked him
about his activity after leaving the
Bronx bakery on the night of March
l. Reilly broke the silence with a
suggestion that the answer might be
discriminating.
II am willing to tell the witness, "
Wilentz said. IF there is no obJec-
ton from the court that If 1t is his
feeling that it will tend to incrimlnate
him or degrade him that he has the
right to say So.
Yes" interjected Carlstrom.
will your answer incriminate
you?" Wilentz asked.
Yes" Carlstrom said again.
"All right" said the prosecutor, Il
will pass that then, if that is the
way you feel about it
Seeks to Make Trap.
The attorney general attacked the
heart of Carlstrom's testimony and
tried to make him admit that on the
night of March l. 1882. he did not
IN INV
nellen, N. j., where a man named
Arthur Larsen stayed with him on
that night.
The witness insisted this was not
true, and he changed his placid ex-
preston to glare at Larsen in the
court room,
When Reilly took him back for re-
direct examination, CarlStrom ex-
planned he had not answered Wilentzs
question about his activity in Brooklyn
after he left the Bronx or the night
of March / because he was in the
company of women" from l am. until
5 am.
Went to See Esther"
He had gone to the Bronx, he said,
to see a girl named Esther" He ex-
planned he did not see her, though,
because it was too late" So he went
to Brooklyn.
Reilly had him elaborate the incl
dent which he said made him re-
member Hauptmann in the bakery.
Hauptmann had laughed at him, he
said.
Because when I was ordering my
meal up there in the restaurant l
didn't speak so very good English and
when Mrs. Hauptmann, the waitress,
passed by that man sitting there she
said something to him and then he
turned around like that Che turned
his head to illustrate) and laughed.
That is why thought he was laugh
ing at me, that is why I get mad"
Witness Army Promised.
An army of witnesses to prove
Hauptmann innocent of the kidnap-
murder was promised by his Defend
ers last night as prosecutors made it
plain they will fight every line of
alibi testimony.
Irked by the prolonged and singing
cross-examination of a surprise witness
who followed Mrs. Anna Hauptmann
to the witness stand in the carpenters
murder trial today. Reilly said:
"I am going to turn the witness
stand over to Attorney General David
Wilentz. But I am going to give him
plenty to do. I'll have from so to
rs witnesses and I'll run this trial
considerably longer than April if
necessary"
"Carlstrom is a fine witness" he
declared, "and we have several of the
same type. Wilentz seems to like
them and we are going to give him
plenty of them, men whose stories
are honest and cannot be shaken"
Told of Reilly's plans, Wilentz ex-
claimed: II hope he brings down rs
witnesses. I'll be here to greet them"
Manley to Be Introduced.
Besides Kiss, Reilly will introduce
Walter Manley, who also says he was
in the bakery. and Gustav Won
Wintha, who is expected to testify
that he stopped Hauptmann while the
latter was taking the Fredericksen
dog for a walk on the night of the
kidnapping.
Won Wintha, according to Reilly's
account, accused Hauptmann of hav-
ing stolen the dog, got his card as
assurance of his identity and went
home, where he heard radio reports
of the kidnapping.
Reilly said CarlStrom and many,
many others responded to a plea
he had broadcast for information that
might be of use to the defense.
Reilly Resentful.
Reilly expressed resentment today
at police tactics being used on my
witnesses.
"A half hour after Elvert Carlstrom
began testifying yesterday police were
at his home" Reilly asserted.
1.-THE attorney general kept him on
the stand at great length so that he
might be thoroughly investigated by
the police They didn't get anything
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