davidaulloa/AmericanStories huggingface dataset:
Evening star., 1935-12-12

on the UnlLeu
States liner Wash
ington. convinced
t h 1 S Nation
should h a v e
"bided Its time"
In recognizing the
Soviet Union.
William c. Bull
lit, the Ameri-
C a n Ambassador
to Moscow. re-
turned on the
same ship for the
Christmas h oil
days.
Every p1a c e
Evening star., 1935-12-12

But no matter how the Law may
serve those Arizona husbands, I would
put in a plea for the female CODE
PENDANTS charged with marrying EN-
SO copiously. For I've just seen some
newspaper pictures of the male pris-
oners. Gentlemen of the jury, If they
be true likeneSSes, those poor near.
sighted women already have suffered
enough. Talk about being more sinned
against than SHINING.
(copyri=ht. 1898. by the North American
Newspaper Alliance. 1nc.1
Evening star., 1935-12-12
What's What
Behind News
In Capital
Morgenthau Wary Sill
yer Buyer Imitation
ists' Hopes.
BY PAUL MALLON.
DH hUL NhHHON'
.HE Treasury tried to laugh off
the silver break with an aside
| remark that Secretary Nor


the silver break with an aside
remark that Secretary Nor
Il genthau oversight that morn
ing. When ,the break continued the
second day, there were outside sus-
picions that he had developed Sleep
ing sickness.
The unexplained truth of the mat
ter seems to be exactly the opposite.
Silver spectators have caught him
mapping so often in the past that he
seems to have developed insomnia on
that subject.
The result is that, behind his
teioned yaUnfng, there appears to
be emerging Well-Studted change
in his buying strategy. 1t does not
necessarily inpolDe any change in
basic policy. The mandate OF Con-
gress is still being seriously re-
Spected ,Utthin the Treasury. But
Mr.. Morgenthdu seems to haze
developed into Wary buyer rather
than a good time Charley ioho
mould take in all the siluer any one
has to offer at any price.
Mr.. Morgenthau's purpose Gas die
tated by Congress) is twofold: (a)
To increase the price Of silver
eventually to 81 20. and (b) to accumu-
late o tremendous bulk Of it, until
it reaches one-third of his gold. These
purposes often conflict.
Evening star., 1935-12-12
Courteous Man Hit by Car.

BINGHAM, Utah.-Cesare, Rob-
biano, a courteous gentleman, STEP
ped from narrow sidewalk into
the street to allow two women to pass.
An automobile knocked him down,
fracturing his skull.
Evening star., 1935-12-12
LEWIS STILL COOL
TOWARD RUSSIA
Senator Says U. S. Should Have
"Bided It's Time" on
Recognition.

By the Associated Press.
NEW YORK. December l2.-Sena-
tor James Hamilton Lewis Of Illinois,
who was stricken seriously Ill with
pneumonia in Moscow, returned today
Evening star., 1935-12-12
PASTRIES, SICKENING 48,
ARE ORDERED ANALYzED
Food Contained Metallic Poison
or Had Decomposed, Phila-
delphia Doctor Asserts.

delphia Doctor Asserts.
BY the Associated Press.
PHILADELPHIA. December IL
Police and Board of Health investiga-
tors tried today to trace the source of
ingredients of pastries they said made
4S persons violently i'll. The cases were
reported last night from Roxborough
and Manayunk sections in North
Philadelphia.
DR.. Frank E. Wolcoff, who treated
several victims, said: Either the food
eaten contained a metallic poison, or
else 1t had bacterial decomposition"
Samples left unfinished by the vic
tins will be analyzed.
Evening star., 1935-12-12
Irwin s. Cobb
Says:
Polygamous Wives in
Clutches of Arizona Law
Have Suffered Enough.

CULVER CITY, Calf, December
12.-Hollywood sentiment is that those
alleged polygamists now on trial over
at K1ngman. in Arizona, should be
Evening star., 1935-12-12
Christmas Seals
Why i Buy Them-a State
ment by Maj. Ernest
w. Brown.

Because they help police tubercu-
losis which, like killer In the night,
attacks unsuspecting victims who live
or work in close contact with persons
suffering from this communicable
disease" Signed,
MAJ. ERNEST w. BROWN,
Chief Of Police.
Evening star., 1935-12-12
Cummings

Continued From First Page)
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Maxwell

Continued From First Page)
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Ie35. By the EoLth American
Evening star., 1935-12-12

Eorly American
settlers used
friendly lndions
as messengers
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23

ish quarters of Italy's legitimate as
pirations does not seem therefore
to agree with the claim of protect
ing British interests in Ethiopia"
What measures should be taken
to arrest the apparently waning
power of the white race?" was my
final question.
For years 1 have been calling the
attention of world public opinion to
the dangers of the declining birth
rate among western peoples. All the
world knows how tenaciously the
Fascist government has been wag-
ing its fight for the increase and
Improvement of the Italian popu-
latiOn.
IF the present disturbing depopu-
lation of Occidental nations should
be accompanied by remuneration of
the right to send civilizing missions
to peoples who still are in ignorance
of the benefits of civilization-such
mission was admirably fulfilled in
the past century by Americans, dis
regarding the simple and primitive
peoples to whom the North Amer
lean continent belonged-then we
truly despair of the future"
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23

Off two Catholics are married
by a justice of the peace and one OF
them should remarry by the Catholic
Church without divorcing his or
her previous mate, what would be
the churchs attitude toward such a
marriage?
A-Catholic authority answers:
According to the present law OF
the church, the marriage of Cath
olics that does not take place be-
fore a parish priest and two wit
nesses is not valid. There is, how
ever, in this legislation OF the
church no attempt to contravene
the laws of the state or any state
of the Union. Catholics are bound
in conscience to observe these
laws.
The state or states demand a
divorce or annulment before an
other marriage is entered into by
all parties concerned; as a conse-
quence, therefore, the aforemen-
toned parties should have first
freed themselves of legal entan-
clements, and it should have been
the duty of the parish priest OF
the second instance (the first
really valid Catholic MARRIAGE, to
see to it that the parties appear
ing before him were free both in
the eyes of the state as we'll as in
the sight of the church.
In short, the Catholic Church
in all countries recognizes the
legal aspect of marriage, but re-
serves for herself the control as far
as Catholics marrying among
themselves or with non-Catholics
is concerned of the sacramento
aspect of the marriage bond"
CAT what age do the Jews bap-
tie their people and what do they
use?
A-BaptiSm was a common Jew
ish practice until, when it was
taken over by Christianity, it
lapSed among Jews. The rite OF
circumcision, however, has con-
tinued and the operation is per-
formed upon Jewish male children
on the eighth day after birth. In
our Western world it has come to
be associated particularly with
Jews, although large percentage
of non-Jewish children is circum-
cized today as hygienic measure.
GIN the case of children born
Of marriage between Protestant
and Catholic, would not a Protes-
5ant be committing a sin and place
MS children'S souls in jeopardy Of
obtaining salvation by permitting
hem to be reared in the Catholic
'aith while he was convinced his re-
igious beliefs were the true teach
ngs of Christ?
A-From the Protestant point of
view, an eminent theologian an
swers, there is no question of sal
walton involved. Whatever the diff
ferences between Protestants and
Catholics, the central assertions of
the Christian religion are made by
Protestant as we'll as Catholic
churches.
If man made a decision that
went against his honest judgment,
while no doubt that decision
would be wrong for him, it would
only be sin in the sense that it
is always sin to believe in one
way and act in another.
A child responding to the central
Christian teachings to be found
in common in the Protestant ana
Catholic positions would live a
very noble life.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
The Theatrical World -
Tribute to Will Rogers
Given in City TheaterS
by WALTER d. HICKMAN,

minutes in reverence to the dead
humorist.
On the stroke Of 2 here Ed REESE
ner, conductor Of the Lyric or
chestra. raised his baton for the or
chestra to play "Valse Trieste"
which was the traditional tune for
the services for Caruso. Lillian Rus
sell and Marie Dressler
The curtains were slowly drawn
as Ted Nicholas, manager of the
theater, began to talk over the pub
lie address system.
Mr. Nicholas said that the Lyric
was joining with all theaters in the
country in paying tribute to the
memory of the great actor.
AS he spoke, the curtains parted
and on the stage with the orchestra,
their heads bowed in silent tribute,
were Pinkie Lee, Mary Miles. YER
non Rathburn, Yorke and Tracy,
the Laced Troupe and the Negro
children taking part in the act Of
the Five Cabin Kids.
Mr.. Nicholas explained the devo-
ton of the actors and the audience
for Mr.. Rogers as the orchestra
played.
Then, as Mr.. Resener reached the
close of the composition, Mr.. Nicho-
las said: we know that Will Rogers
would want the show to go on. And
the show goes on"
All of the actors left the stage.
Mr.. Resener changed the tempo and
the Liazeed Troupe of acrobatS
whirled into their act.
The Circle, LoeWs and the Apollo
also stopped their shows and paid
tribute to the memory of Will"
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
SOLUTION MUST
Be CONCLUSIVE,
SAYS IL DUCE
Ethiopian Problem Can Be
Solved Only by Force,
He IntimateS.
CONTINUED From Page One)

brium would be the attitude of those
wishing 10 ignore the absolute ne
cessity Of Italy's safety and expan-
sion. and to create artificially a
legend of perils 10 Europe that
would result from a colonial cam
paign.
These operations Of ours differ in
no way from the various military
operations which other colonial
powers have conducted in Asia and
hETlca. II IS necessary TO elimina. g
the firemen who would seek to
spread the flames"
Here MussOlini opened a large
album on his desk. 1t was full Of
photographs of the devastation
wrought by the British lombard
ment Of Alexandria IN 1892 Turn
ing the leaves. he said:
You have done much the same
thing IN America. How did you
push your frontier back? You took
possession Of 1t by force from the
Indians and Mexico.
The United States consisted
originally Of Is colonies on the
Eastern seaboard. Now you span
the continent"
This seemed a good place to
change the subject. so I asked II
Duce about Italy and the League Of
Nations.
What Will Italy do II the League
fails TO arrive at a solution of the
present problem? Would Italy in
any eventuality withdraw from &C.
neva?" 1 inquired.
Italy Will pursue her aims-with
Geneva or without Geneva or
against Geneva" was the prompt
and vigorous reply. L can not be
Ieve. however, that taking care Of
ones own security is contrary to
the principles Of the covenant"
How can a future world war be
avoided? What does the future
hold for the League of NatiOns?" I
asked
He paused for a moment and then
spoke with special earnestneSS:
"A nation on the march, as the
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
JUNIOR ORDER
OF MECHANICS
ELECTS HEADS
Richmond Man Is Chosen in
Final Convention SeS-
sion Today.

Roscoe Haindel, Richmond. was
elected state councillor of the Junior
Order United American Mechanics
in the closing sessions of the two
day annual state conference at the
Lincoln today.
Approximately 125 delegates were
present. DR.. R. NJ. Kendall, Louis
vile, Deputy National Councillor,
and A. E. Llewelyn, Cincinnati, past
National Councillor, were principal
speakers.
Other new officers are Everett
Schuck, Jonesboro, state vice coun-
oilor; H. c. Hadley, Elwood, state
chaplain, and Walter .. Stoumph,
indianapolis, state conductor.
Mrs. Opal Sears, indianapolis,
was elected state councillor of the
Daughters of America, the auxiliary
organization.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
Marriage Licenses

David Devine. a. of 1901 E. Washing
ton-st. dental technician. and Margaret
Smith. 20, of 1901 E. Westinghouse, ste
nOgrapher.
Scott Sherman. 30. of 621 E. Ninth-st.
truck driver. and Edna West. 81. of 621 E.
Ninth-st. houSekeeper.
Daniel Doherty. 81. Chicago. grocer. and
Mary Breslen, 25. of 2811 E. Vermont-st.
James Otto. 90 of 5425 College-av. nigh
school teacher, and Mary Byrkit, %. of
George Denwood. 10. of 345 S. Hamil-
ton-av. factory worker. and Catherine
Maurice Kelley, %. of 231 S. Arsenal-ay.
truck driver. and Eva Schwartz, 10. of Alb
E. Merrill-st houSekeeper.
Herbert Leerkamp, %. of 622 Somerset
of 81 S. Warman-av, factory worker.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
COUNTY TAX LEVY
REDUCED 3 CENTS
S400,000 Revenue Estimate
Brings Slash.

The proposed Marion County tax
levy for 1886 based on approprla-
tions of s3.37S. 100 has been reduced
from SIS cents to 54.5 cents. County
Auditor Charles A. GroSsart an
nounced today.
The reduction was made possible
by an estimate that the county
would receive 100000 in revenue
next year. Further reductions in
the proposed tax rate are to be
studied by the Marion County Coun-
Gil at informal sessions this week
and next week
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23

to the Administration fold on the
final utility holding company vote.
Both supported the So-called
compromise. which contains the
Previously they had always voted
for the utilities and against Presi-
dent Roosevelt on the bill.
Rep. James l. Farley and Glenn
Griswold. Democrats. still stuck with
the utility side and their Repub-
lican colleague, Rep. Charles A. Hal
leck.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
BY RUTH FINNEY
Times Special Writer

WASHINGTON, Aug. %. = The
holding company fight still ragged to-
day in spite of yesterdays House
vote on the death sentence"
Senate and House conferees have
still to reach an agreement on other
sections of the bill That involving
the future of service companies is
as important as the death sem
tence" clause, in the opinion of the
bills sponsors.
However, the House vote gave
them new hope that other con-
troversieS can be quickly adjusted
and bill acceptable to President
Roosevelt passed.
Today's controversy relates to
profits derived by holding companies
for the non-utility service companies
they have been operating The
Federal Trade Commission disclosed
that large part of holding COM
pany revenues have been derived
from these management, construc-
ton, and accounting companies, or
gained to perform services for OPP
Grating utilities and to collect in
payment-in most cases-far more
than the cost of the service.
Impossible" Says Kennedy
The Senate holding company bill
provides that hereafter such services
shall be performed by mutual serv-
ice companies operating at cost.
The House BILL silent on the
question of profits, simply provides
for regulation of fees in the pub
lie interest" by the Securities and
Exchange Commission.
Chairman Joseph Kennedy of
SEC has notified the committees
that he considers this House pro-
vision gives his board an impossi-
BILE task, since there is no OBJ
jective standard as to what is
fair and reasonable profit"
Escape State Regulation
The death sentence" fight has
been so dramatized throughout the
long controversy that this equally
important one has received little at
tention. However, those who have
been following the fight closely feel
that effective regulation of reduced
holding company units will be al
most impossible if their revenues
can not be effectively regulated.
The service companies have in the
past escaped state regulation be-
cause they are not utilities.
Conferees also have yet to dis
cuss title 2 of the holding company
bill, containing amendments to the
existing water power act and pro-
visions for regulation by the power
commission of interstate power
transactions.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
SENATE AND HOUSE IN
HUDDLE ON COAL BILL
Borah Amendment Kept, Minton
Proposal Rejected.
BIZ Cnitcd Press

BIZ CHitCd Press
WASHINGTON, Aug. 23-House
and Senate conferees agreed today
to retain in the GUffey coal control
bill the Borah amendment striking
out House provision which would
have exempted bituminous opera
tors from the anti trust laws.
Conferees also agreed to retian
a Senate amendment eXempting
farm cooperative organizations from
marketing and labor provisions of
the bill. The section would per-
nit co-operatives to deal in coal
without regard for minimum prices
to be set up under the bill
Senate conferees receded from
Senator Sherman Minton's amend
ment changing the set-up of mar
keting areas.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
UTILITY BILL
PASSAGE NOW
SEEN LIKELY
House Vote Gives New Hope
to BaCkerS of Death
Sentence Clause.

By United Press
WASHINGTON. Aug. 23.-Con-
ferees on the public utility bill
announced this afternoon they
had reached an agreement in
principle on the final form of
the measure, but probably would
q not be able to conclude their
work before tomorrow at the
earliest.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
The Religious
Question Box

Readers OF The Indianapolis Times
are invited to send in questions re-
garding the Protestant. Catholic or
Jewish faiths. Questions will be
answered in this column as prompt
ly az possible. They should be ad-
dressed to The Times or to ihe Ma
tional Conference of Jews and
Christians, 2S9 Fourth-av. New York
City. Where a personal reply Is de-
sired ii should be so stated.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
Deaths

George Daniel Herman, "A. at $50 Cedar.
arterio sclerosis.
Jake Reichert 80. at Illinois Central
Fd Hys acute d gig n,o Of heart
carcinoma
Georgia Howard, 80, at City Hospital.
myocarditis.
George Wildman. SO. at Belt Railroad.
crushing injury to chest.
Mata Bonke, 40. at 2114 N. New Jersey,
carcinoma.
Hospital. broncho pneumonia.
William H. Carter, SO, at 1929 E. Mime
sofa carcinoma.
Cornelia Million. As, at City Hospital,
carcinoma
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
CITY ASKS REHEARING
IN TAX BOARD CASE
Seeks to Have Set Aside Recent De-
cision of Supreme Court.

The city of Indianapolis, through
its corporation counsel, James E.
Deery, yesterday filed with the In
diana Supreme Court a petition for
rehearing of the case contesting the
power of the State Board of Tax
Commissioners to alter tax levies set
nv the Council
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23

A BEAUTIFUL tribute was paid
IA to the memory Of VIII Rogers
at ? yesterday afternoon at the
Lyric.
Theaters all over the country
stopped the show" yesterday for 2
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23

Births

Howard and Audrey Kepler, 494a West
18th
Fred and Blanche Oldfather 221s Cen
trail
John and Godie Morris. 2033 Lewis
Joe and Ethel Flanagan, 800 Udell.
Charlton and Leila Burris, 1914 Spann.
Charles and Jennie Siddau, 1889 Cen
William and Viola McCrory, St. Vim
cents Hospital
dist Hospital
Orien and Delight Fifer, Methodist Hos
Hospital.
Franklin and Helene Williams, Methodist
Hospital
Boys
Joseph and Lilly Griffin. 2S19 Caroline
Joseph and Louise Childs, 707 Mus
kingum.
Thomas and Lazatha Franklin, 1885 Cor
nell.
Jack and Grace Harris ITO N. fremont.
Shirley and Viola Adair, 2343 Sheldon.
Paul and celia Hadley. SAL Arbor.
John and Mae Atkins. BAL Wright.
Edgar and Rosetta Pate 215 S. keystone
william and Iva Carter 1857 APPLICABLE
field -o
Harry and Mary Mears 1923 Arrow.
VIII and Irene Green. st. Vincents Hos
pital.
Erbie and Neva Brown. Methodist Hos
pital.
= Manuel and Louise Vidal. Methodist
Hospital.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23

The pansy has been developed
from the violet within the last
800 years.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23

Italian nation is today, can not be
stopped by the static conception OF
the life of peoples. 1t is precisely
this static conception which consti-
tutes the greatest danger for world
peace. The League, if it desires to
live. must be conscious of this dan
ger. which anyhow is envisaged in
Article 10 and p of the covenant"
Sticks to International Law
What is your excellency's opin-
ion of the contention in some quar-
ters that the covenant has modified
the convention of 1888 which as
sured free passage through the Suez
Canal in times of war as well as
peace?'
The covenant" he replied. lis
part of the Versailles treaty, which.
under Article 292, reconfirmed the
full force of the convention of 1889"
Would Italy in event of war as
sumo the right to search neutral
vessels
Italy will in whatever eventual
ity adhere strictly to the provisions
of international law, as she has al
ways done
Raps British Stand
The conversation then turned to
England's position and 1 asked the
Duce whether he believed Eng
lands attitude is prompted alto
gether by altruistic motives. He
replied:
England in the protocols of 1891
and 1894 recognized that almost the
whole territory of Ethiopia is in
Guided in the sphere of Italian in
fluence. These protocols are still in
force, inasmuch as they were con-
firmed by the tri-partite accord of
1906 between Italy, Britain and
France. Britain's interests in con-
nectiOn with the waters of the Nile
are likewise specially recognized in
the accord reached in 1925 between
Ambassador Graham and myself.
This accord was at the time
communicated to Geneva. Britain's
local interests in Ethiopia are there
fore completely safeguarded. The
lack of understanding in some Brit
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1935-08-23
Ludlow Swings Back

By Times Special
WASHINGTON, Aug. 23.-Reps.
Louis Ludlow and Virginia Jenckes
are on record today as returning
Amerikai Magyar hirlap = American Magyar journal. [volume] (Youngstown, Ohio) 1911-1942, 1935-07-25

uTiRANY: veoye I 422-es utat bArborntt Wasa
renbe, AZ Elm streeten. Larchront Ave-n sxs
ivanhoe croveio. Sxen,ben Van Auffel Gy&rrat.|
kEzDETE ESTE s 0RAkoK
Amerikai Magyar hirlap = American Magyar journal. [volume] (Youngstown, Ohio) 1911-1942, 1935-07-25
WSzONTLATAS
"a Ev UTAN
Horanszky Mihaly megtalal-
ia keresztfiat. Valodi tor
tenet az eletbol

Tobb mint "a evvel ezel6tt
New Yorkba erkezett Magyar
orszagbol egy Macy Juliana ne
Vii elvalt asszony. Szive alatt
hordta pesti szere1menek gyu-
molcset, amikor partra lepett. Az
asszony munkaba ALT. de nehany
honap mulva egy korhazban ele-
tet adott fianak.
Ennek fiunak volt a ke-
resztapja Horanszky Mihaly. is
inert McGuffey Rd.-i magyar liz
letember, aki akkor meg n6tlen
volt. Egy tot katholikus temp
lomban kereszteltek a fiut, apja
utan Enyedi Bella nevre. Az
anya, aki haztartasi munkan volt,
nem tudta gyermeket gondozni.
Beadta egy lelenchazba, maid
teljesen megfeledkezve rola. ujbol
ferjhez ment, ket gyermeke is
sziiletett, maid ismet ozvegy
lett.
A csinos fiucskat megszerette
egy gyermektelen amerikai ha-
zaspar es orokbe fogadta. Icy
valtozott !, meg neve William
Boyds-ra. A gyermek ezen : 4
neven nevelkedett es jart isko-
laba. A flu azonban sohasem
nyugodott. Szerette volna meg
talalni edes anyjat es megtudni
szarmazasat. Vegre 1933-ban
megtalalta anyjat New York
ban.
Horanszky Mihaly nemregen
csaladjaval keleten vakaciozott
(mert azel6tt Trentonban lakott)
New Yorkban is volt es oft fel-
kereste ait a not, akinek fiat a
keresztviz ala tartotta. T6le
tudta meg, hogy megkerult flu,
aki egy Macy radioallomas mer-
noke.
Horanszky felkereste Plain
field, N. ]. lakasan keresztfiat,
akit azota sem latott. Az num-
kaban volt, de amikor amerikai
felesegenek mondta, hogy Young
stownbol jott, az mindjart tudta,
hogy ferjenek keresztapjaval all
szemben. Azonnal hazahivta
ferjet es ICY talalkozott egy ke-
resztfiu, keresztapjaval annyi
hosszu ev utan el6szor.