, 1935-01-10

your shack at City Island subse-
quentiy. ]
"A. No.
@. You went to City Island en-
week ends?
A. Yes. sir, i did.
@. With whom did you talk on
City Island?
A. with my neighbors 80 people
I have known So years.
G. Did you yer tell your neigh
bors on City Island that you believ-
ed the baby was kidnapped by o.
gang?
A. T can't recall now.
@. Did you tell anybody you we're
the "Jafsier OF the ad?
"A. Yes. everybody.
Kept No Records
c.. You never mace any record OF
your conversations with reference 10
the case.
"A. No.
q. And nov YOU are depending
on your memory In 1885 for some
thing that happened In 1882?
q. Did you " say q woman
took part in the kidnapping?
"A. No.
q. no you remember telling news
papermen In the office OF Attorney
Mclaughlin In the Bronx that you
knew the abductorS?
A. Il don't recollect."
Reilly then shifted his line OF at
tack.
Q. Did you cver 20 out in q boat
In connection with this case? Blind
folded:
A. On q boat yes. But not blind
folded. .I
DR.. Condor told Reilly he had
been asked to 60 by steamer TO
Hrockton, Mass. with a Samuel
Leon and Icons friend.
@. Did you ever stand on the
deck OF a boat In which you be-
lieved the baby was hidden below
the decks?
A. No.
Reilly then swung to trips Con-
don made to Froggs Neck In his
row boat in connection with the
case.
On one such trip ne described
how he saw a boat on which o
man named Coal Barge John" and
another person were visible.
@. You went out TO that boat be-
lieving those men were the kid
napers?
"A. No.
~Interjects New Note
Reilly interjected a new note In
the a 3 when he demanded Con-
don state whether or not he had
ever said The child's body was
brought back to the spot where 1t
was found"
He was trying to establish Con-
don had told that to q Marcus
Griffin OF the New York Inquirer"
In New York.
Jafsie said he had no memory Of
the incident.
Reilly changed his course to in
quire II after Hauptmann's arrest
he asked a detective for pictures OF
Hauptmann so he might study
them. requesting the detective to
tell no one Of giving him the
photos.
Condor made indignant denial
OF this.
@. 7 want the exact date OF the
month when you saw Hauptmann
In the Bronx last August.
A. I don't remember.
q. II Is your sworn testimony
then that you made no effort to
capture the man 10 whom you say
you gave $4,000. the man who
double crossed you on the ransom?
A. didn't say that.
G. You didn't Stout to the driver
to. u him down.
a. No, IL would be impossible 10
do that. There was SO much traf-
fic.
Reilly suddenly asked Jafsie do
you recall a detective investigator
BY the name of Val O,Farrell."
Never saw him. Died, I believe"
Reilly showed him a picture OF
OFarrell.
Never saw him in my life"
@. He's dead Of course.
A. Yes. but it's the truth just the
same.
Q. Did you wei 0 Mrs. Jay?
"A. No. sir.
Q DO you know Captain Bernard
Eels?
A. The name Capt. Eels Is fam
liar. 7 don't remember the Ber-
nard. though.
Jafsie said he knew Capt. Eels at
Woods Hole. Mass.
Reilly showed him two letters.
@. Did you receive this letter?
Identifies letters
Condor glanced at 1t and then
turned a Scornful look on the law
yer.
He read il for a full minute and
said "Yes. I received it,
c. when?
a. In about November. 1882.
The letters were accepted in evil
dence.
Reilly then jumped to another
angle.
@. DO you recall two vy4nen call
ing on you at your home during the
ransom negotiations?
n. lHeTe were Ol LLltll.
Reilly then asked a woman named
Mrs. Terrain to stand up and come
over to the witness stand for Con-
don % identify.
Jafsie identified her as m with
a companion named Mrs. Busch.
@. Didn't you give Mrs. Busch
these letters referring to the pre- !
vious exhibits and tell them they
we're in the Handwriting Of the
~kidnapers?
A. No ! did not.
@. Didn't you tell them you knew
the kidnapeds were four In name?
A. ! don't remember.
Reilly asked II Mrs. Busch had
not identified herself as a native
Of FleminctOn. by exhibiting hank