, 1935-01-29

Was &osDUVf
A. yes. That's correct.
q. II YOU wrote TO the Fisch fam
ily IN 1884 and said you put up
$4,000 worth Of stocks. was that o
lie?
A. No.
@. But you had put up only $500
stocks7
"A. Yes.
Q. You did put up $4,000 In Sc
curitiesg
A. Yes. that's correct.
@. When you wrote to Isador's
family after his death did you say
anything about the stock you bought
for hlm2
"A. No. I did not.
The defendant launched an ex-
PLANTATION OF the stock dealings OF
F1sch. He said the little furrier did
not make enough. Hauptmann sug-
gested that he buy FIBch's interest
for twenty per cent or value and The
partner would participate $3.50 on
profit and loss.
'Flsch said o. K" Hauptmann
concluded.
q. when did you and he start this
account where you were 10 put up
ST. Ou and ne was % put up elI soo1
q. You never had any stock dealings
before October. 1882
A. That was the $3.50 account.
q. How about the acccunt ia which
he had 40 per cent INTEREST,"
A. Taat really never got started.
q. 90 Fisch was never IN the market
prior % October, 1882
"A. on, yes. lie wal In In 1854.
Wilentz changed the subject and ask
ca n the witness had bought q canoe
and taken hunting trips after The kid
napins.
8. And you wsrsn't workinss
wife Quit work
Wilentz reviewed the trips Of
the HAuptmnnns to California
and Florida and the purchase OF the
$500 radio since 1891.
q. And your wife quit work toc9
A. Yes. In June, 1892.
G. And you made only s200 since a.
q carpenter9
@. Your wis was disguised az ycr.
quitting the JOB and you went and put
money IN the phnkf
A. She wasn't hpllerinR ht me.
Wilentz led HauptnAnn to his ar
rest and the circulation or ransom bills
immediately preceding.
9. Why. because you needed the
mony7
A. on no I didn't need the money
q Why did you put 10 Tn clrculatlon2
A. ! thought ! wouldn't take the check
from my stock accoun so I put thih
money into circulation and used IL.
q. 50 YOU Q the money because
you didn't want 20 take Il ont OF youl
stock account and you had living ex-
pensesf
A Yes.
@. When you and your wife went to
buy her shoes you took a Of the bills7
a. That's correct.
@ Before. when YOU needed living
stock account2
A. That's right.
Altogether 1 put IN circulation. /
figure. from IL % IS Bills" he con-
cluded.
2. FOR your living ezpsnsss'
q. Prior to that time you should have
taken the money from your banking
or brokerage accountss
q. Sc then whenever YOU needed
money YOU dipped Into that money ana
took u a bill at a time?
a. Yes. but 7 took 4 or 5 bills AZ q
@. But you didn't take 10 out Just
y casn ~ % set y changed 70 other
a. No. for living texpensesl.
q. You didn't take the bills out and
cash them Just tp get rid 81 them2
Building Up tor Trip
q. Why dlu you ucp0sit $40 during
August and september. 1885 when you
needed money for expenses
A. This bank was closed and I opened
In another bank Ia sBth street.
hauptmann explained that ne opened
an account In q NJ. Vernon BANK IN
september, 1894. TO build up little BY
wife. he said. did no Know about the
account.
@. A special account.
A. Yes. 4 wanted to start 4 special
account for our voyage 70 Germany.
q. You weren't worried having
enough money for that trip7
A. Not worried. that's rignt. But N
you AXE a trip-it you 9ulId up little
q. But you had thousands Of uuliass
In september, 1924. ThouEands9
"A. In my stock account.
q. You didn't need money ia septem-
Der you had thousands7
A. II was easier 10 build up little
BY little than take 0 $1,000 al at
9. you only used a little Of the money
4. ! vas going 10 return the rest 70
q. you took about $500 OF rolu certi-
ficates and was going TO give back the
rest % the Fiech famliy7
A. 1 sol u from FisCh.
q. 90 you intended 10 return the 1st
% the sold 70 the Fischs7
O. fhcn why dId sou spend the 10 or
Is bills you took7
A. FiBch owed me.
Hauptmann then explained nd diviu.
I'd the money into two packages. one OF
$1,000. and the other OF $4,000 TO be
on the safe Blde."
He said Flsch owed him that 81. 1000
ena ne ant u be sure q setting
1rother would refuse 10 aive Il TO MN.
g. What were you afraid Of. what
wae the trouble2
"A. Because their wasn't any written
between Fisch n me.
g. What trouble were you afraid Of?
"A. Flschis brother.
q. What trouble were you afraid or
A. lie wouldn't believe me.
O.. You would tell him you had his
money!
A. les a I didn't have any siips or
records. Fisch owed me $4,000.
Might Eaik'
q. You were going TO separate the
$1,000 n give them the rest.
A. No. But n 7 gave him All the money
ne might talk about it.
O.. They asked you to tell what Fisch
left in this eountry2
"A. Yea.
O. Ana you answered a couple OF old
trunks with nothing In them7
a. Yes.
G. why did you hide the money IN
tha trunk
a somebody might come ia. I nad
70 hide " somewhert.