The Waterbury Democrat., 1935-02-09

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 A. Yes.
 wilentz's objection when Fisher handed the witness another set of nails was sustained.
 Q. You can identify the nails merely because they are in the paper you wrapped them in?
 A. know those nails.
 Bornmann was excused after he had identified the under side of the attic board.
 The next witness was Arthur Koehler. department of Agricul- ture expert.
 Q. (By wilentz)-You were fin court when a young man from Bennington used the plane of Hauptmann on lumber?
 A. Yes.
 Q. What was the difference be- tween the marks made on the lad der and on the wood brought into court.
 Frederick Pope of defense coun- sel objected the witness was not qualified as a plane expert. He was overruled.
 A. Where he held the plane parallel to the wood he was plan ing, the marks were identical with those made by Hauptmann's plane on the ladder rungs.
 Wilentz showed the witness the two pieces of board brought into court by Charles DeBisschop, de- fcnse witness.
 Koehler said the two boards were once the same board.
 DeBisschop had said they were not.
 Q. Are there any other reasons why you think these two pieces came from the same board? A. Yes. The backs of the two boards are closely alike although one seems to be smoother than the other.
 Koehler tied the two small boards to the Hauptmann floor board.
 The ends were one and a half inches apart.
 "This shows that the grains arc perfectly matched and run into one another.
 o. It was testified that there the more knots at the base of a tree than at the top. Is that com mon knowledge? A: No, when trees are large. enough to cut for iuuuOCT tACAC 0AC 4CW OAdhCLiCO near the butt. Also it. Is known is quite free of knot holes.
 Koehler said the board from the attic was higher in the tree than was Trail 16.'
 Q. You still say that rail 16 and D227 (the attic board) once were the same board? A. Yes.
 Whot (e, nj rt nf h< size of the nails used in rail 16 when it was affixed to the attic floor?
 Wilentz withdrew the question and asked the size nail holes in the rail.
 Flight penny" Kroehler said. A moment later he said that photograph identified as yellow pine" by DeBisschop was white pine."
 This ladder was washed at your request? A. Yes.
 Q. Mir Mielke testified that one of these two boards was thinner than the other? A. The boards run from thick to thin from one end to the other-another point of similarity.
 Koehler said he had found four nail holes in rail Is, and had so noted in his report on March s. 1888.
 Q. Were these nail holes the ones that matched, perfectly with the holes in the joists in the Hauptmann attic? A. They were.
 Pope cross examined.
 He asked Koehler how many times the inch was subdivided on the bar of 0 certain type, of cali per.
 Koehler said it depended on the make of the caliper.
 He admitted his knowledge of mill work was that of observation.
 Col. Lindbergh was smiling over the argument between Pope and the expert over the line measure ments of wood.
 Q. Does not the number of marks on wood depend only upon the number of planes in the world? A. The planes and the number of hicks in them.
 Pope said the witness had failed to measure the nick in the Haupt- mann plane, and the marks on the ladder.
 0. So without this measure ment your whole premise fails and you are expressing merely an opinion. A. No,fI can measure the distance between houses in a block without measuring each house.
 Pope gave the witness the two pieces Koehler had identified as from the same board.
 Koehler took Pppe's calipers and measured the, edge of each board.
 Q. There's difference of 3-64 of an inch in those boards isn't there? A.. Yes, according to your calipers.
 Pope showed the witness q nail hole .n the board. ..
 Q. Is this an old nail hole or new one? A. There's nothing on the hole to indicate.
 Q. (Shouted)-Well. you can't tell whether It's an old hole or a new one?-. A.. l can't tell.
 O. Now has this board been think 1t was washed.
 o. You said 1t had been planed. Was it done in a mil planer?, A. l don't know.
 Wilentz inquired of Pope who put certain pencil markings on the boards. T don't know" said Pope. Perhaps I did. I wouldn't say yes, and wouldn't say mo-"
 That Is quite in keeping with the defense.' said Wilentz. He was referring to several aIibi wit nesses who wouldn't say yes and wouldn't say no"
 Pope, chubby little man who likes green and red neckties, stood by the witness chair and led Koehler through a droning cross examination.
 Q. It 1t your opiplon that the witness. to deceive us, cut piece from the board? A. That's what he did. l. can't say why he did .it.
 Q. You said you examined this ladder in 1883? A.. Yes the first week of March.
 0. That was year after the Kidnapping? A. Yes.