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The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19
Raid Is FruitIeSS

Department of justice operatives
conducted a fruitless raid at a
downtown hotel Tuesday morning
for Mrs. Frances Robinson, wife of
the kidnaper of Mrs. Alice Speed
Stoll, The Times learned today.
A woman, positively identified by
pictures as Mrs. Robinson, registered
at the hotel about I'll a. m. Tues
day as Mrs. Katherine Beech, st.
Louis"
She appeared extremely nervous
when taken to her room according
to Eddie Cox, bellboy. brother of
Tracy Cox. we'll known local boxer.
Mrs. Robinson had only a small
handbag. She took off her coat
and started smoking a cigaret with
shaking fingers when she reached
the room, according to Cox.
Has any one been here looking
for me?" Cox said she asked him.
Cox said he didn't know of any in
quiries. He left and later vas sent
back to the room.
The woman he is positive was
Mrs. Robinson appeared ever more
agitated this time, Cox said. and
asked him if there was any way she
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19
BY HAROLD LA POLT
Times stan Writer

THE downright stupidity and
frank amateurishneSs of
Thomas H. Robinson Jr.'s plans
for the kidnapping of Mrs. Alice
Speed Stoll. Louisville ky So
ciety matron. were responsible for
early conclusions that the crime
was not a ransom kidnapping.
The kidnaper's stupidity began
with the writing of the long ran
som letter. He left a clear thumb
print on the paper. He had been
arrested previously in Nashville.
Tenn. and hngerprinted.
He had named his father.
Thomas H. Robinson. Nashville.
as intermediary. When his father
failed 10 pick up the $4,000 ran
some money sent to Nashville by
express. Robinson sent a letter
TO a member of the StoIl family
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LOUISVILLE, Ky, Oct. 19.-The hunt for Thomas H.
Robinson J, fleeing kidnaper of Mrs. Alice Speed Stoll,
stretched across the A~ueghenies to the eastern seaboard this
afternoon. Reports that Robinson had been seen came from
a dozen states, but the search was concentrated in eastern
Pennsylvania and in Delaware.
Police teletype systems reported that Delaware police
had vainly pursued three men, one of whom answered Rob
inson's description. The car escaped into Pennsylvania. Pre-
viously the car had been reported at Reading, Pa, and
WernersviDe, Pa.
The swing of the search to eastern states started yes7
terday when an automobile, positively identified as Robin
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19
~BUSHMASTER Is SHOT
AFTER KILLING q DOGS
1S-FOOt Snake Ready to Attack
Men Before Slain.

AO-A WV "a ANC0ny W EAkAdNh
Men Before Slain.
By United Press
PORT OF SPAIN, Trinidad, Oct.
ia thrilling encounter with a
giant bushmaster, one of the dead
Hest snakes known, was reported to-
day from the Aston estate. 1t was
believed to be one of the largest
eve shot.
Felix Rudolfo and Alfred Logan,
while hunting. encountered the
reptile, which was about seventeen
or eighteen feet long. with a body
about the size of a mans thigh. One
of their dogs stirred up the reptile,
which struck it six times with its
deadly fangs. The dog howled and
dropped dead. Three other dogs
suffered the same fate. The reptile
was about to attack the two men
when Rudolfo shot it.
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Mr.. johnson, who resides at 3434
North Rural street, had cashed his
check at IL yesterday morning at
the telephone company cashiers Of
flee and was leaving the building
when he was stopped by Earl Woeh-
Ter, APT Exeter street, telephone COM
pany window washer, who just had
cashed his check and received a
$40 bill.
Got two fves for a temp" asked
Woehler. johnson had received the
ransom bill from Woehler, of course
unaware of its significance.
Extremely interested in the Stoll
kidnapping, Mrs. Johnson had asked
her husband to bring home a copy
of yesterdays Louisville Courier
Journal, in the hope that it might
contain more pictures than those
appearing in the indianapolis
papers.
She noticed last night that there
was a full page of numbers in the
Louisville paper, reproduction of all
the ransom note numbers.
Explaining that he had a crazy
hunch," Johnson started scanning
the list and comparing the money
he had on his person with the ran
som numbers. He discovered his $40
bill number only about one-fourth
down the first column of small type.
The bill was A-000714 issued by
the First National Bank of Mt.
Healthy, O., and had on it the pen
ciled number 20.
Johnson Immediately called de-
partment of justice agents and in
formed them of his discovery.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19
RETRIAL OF HO0DLUM
BEGINS HERE MONDAY
Judge Who Sentenced Youth Four
Years Ago to Preside.

The retrial of Jesse Finke. %
year-old hoodlum. on robbery
charges will be held in crimina.
court before Special Judge James A
Collins, who four years ago SEN
fenced Finke to the Indiana state
farm for several holdups here.
Finke last March was convicted by
a jury of charges Of having commit
ted three holdups. Criminal Judge
Frank P. Baker authorized a new
trial because of erroneous instruc-
tons to the iury."
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19
BRONX YOUTH
RELEASED BY
KIDNAP GANG
NeighborS and Kin Rejoice
at Return of Junk
Dealers Son.

By United Press
NEW YORK, Oct. 19.-The fam
lily of Louis opposite, %, and the
neighbors celebrated until daylight
today his safe return from kldnapers
who had held him since Monday
night for $4,000 ransom.
Louis returned to his home in the
Bronx last night, saying he had been
released without payment of ran
som. He was driven up to the house
in the automobile of a friend and
dashed past a knot of reporters and
curious into the arms of his family.
Shortly afterward, Detective Lieu
tenant Thomas Sullivan talked with
the youth. He admitted Louis re-
turn had been accomplished with
out cooperation of the police. Mem
bers of the family had asked au-
thOrities not to interfere.
His homecoming was cause of
great rejoicing in the neighborhood.
Reporters. who from time to time
had been shooed from the house by
different members of the family,
were invited to the party.
In an interview, Louis father,
Anthony, said to be a moderately
wealthy junk dealer, related that
the youth was freed after the kid
napers discovered the family did
not possess sufficient money to
make the abduction profitable.
Held in Apartment
He told how last Monday night,
while Louis stopped his automo-
bile for a red light, two men leaped
in from another car and ordered
him to keep quiet. The men gave
him a pair of pasted-over glasses
and made him lie down. Finally,
about two hours later, he was taken
into an apartment.
He had nc idea Of the location.
During his captivity, the youth was
treated with consideration. Last
night, they put glasses on him again,
and drove him for about a half
hour before letting him out with a
warning not to remove the spec
tacles for ten minutes.
Early today, District Attorney
Samuel Foley of the Bronx and
Henry Bruckman, Bronx inspector
of detectives, visited the opposite
home. They emerged a few min
utes later and Mr.. Foley said the
family was stubborn" He added
the father might see him today.
Ransom Note Received
Only a few hours before Louis
return the family acknowledged re-
ceipt of a ransom note from the
kidnapers twenty-four hours be-
fore.
They said the note was delivered
by a small boy. The note was
written, they said, by Louis and
contained instructions for payment
of the demanded ransom. Joseph
opposite, Louis younger brother,
indicated the demand was for
$4,000.
THE amount doesn't mean a
thing" he said, because we can't
pay $4,000. We r trying to ne
gotiate for the return of my broth
err. 1t is only a question of how
much. If the police will only let
us alone, my old man and I car
settle this"
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SPENCER EDUCATOR
NAMED PRESIDENT:
M'NUTT IS PRAISED
New State Teachers Leader Triumphs Over
Charlottesville Woman on Sixteenth
Ballot; Pick Other Officers.
GOVERNORS POLICIES COMMENDED
Retention of Gross Income Tax Is Urged II
Resolution; Thirteen Sections Are
Reinstated; 1885 Meeting Set.

J. Albert Free, Spencer Qnd) school superintendent, to-
day was elected unanimously president of the Indiana State
Teachers Association for the year 1885 in the session at
Cadle tabernacle.
Miss Coda Miner, Charlottesville school supervisor, was
named vice-president, and Miss Josephine Shea, Whiting, and
Harold Moore, Terre Haute, Vigo county superintendent
were chosen as executive Ommitteemen-at-Iarge
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%PRANKSTERS ARE BUSY
Chief MOrrissey Directs Police to
Curb Halloween Stunts.

Chief Mike Morrissey today issued
orders that all policemen break up
youthful bands engaged in pre-
Halloween pranks. The chief re-
ported several incidents of lights
having been smashed and other
property damage inflicted by
mischievous boys and girls.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19
3 YOUTHS ARE HELD
IN CAR THEFT CASE
Trio Also Accused of Taking Part
in HOldup.

Three youths we're held to the
grand jury today on charges of We
hicle taking and robbery by Munich
pal Judge Dewey Myers. They arc
Joe ROLAND and Melvin Briggs, 300
Arbor avenue, and William Cangnay.
1926 Blaine avenue.
They are alleged to have stolen
an automobile and committed a
holdup Oct. 8. ROLAND and Gang
nay we're out on bond on similar
charges when the holdup occurred.
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Frameup,' Is Charge of Mrs. Thomas Robin
son, Wife Of Abductor, Held as
Accomplish in Stoll Case.
AIMS LINK TO FEDERAL MEN
Ransom to Husband at Behest of
Authorities, She Tells Lawyer; US.
Agents Deny Whole Story.

BIZ Jn1cd PreSs
KANE, Pa, Oct. 19.-State police armed with rifles
this afternoon blocked all highways toward here from
MarienviIle after a hitch hiker told police that a man re-
sembling the description of Thomas H. Robinson Jr,
dropped him from his car there.
James Eek, %, the hitch-hiker, told police that the
man carried two sets of license plates in his Ford NS
sedan, together with a blackjack and a revolver. He ordered
Eek from his machine at Marienville, the youth told police,
and turned north toward Kane. The youth positively
identified" Robinson as the man VINO gave him a ride,
police said, by means of photographs.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19

Breaking a deadlock on the
sixteenth ballot, the teachers
nominating committee earlier
today submitted the name of
Mr.. Free. The deadlock was
over Mr.. Free and Miss Mil
ner.
From the first ballot in the NOM
mating committee. Miss Miner and
Mr.. Free led in the balloting with
o. w. Nicely, indianapolis, Wash
ington high school teacher, third IN
the standings. Mr.. Free lea
throughout the committees ballot
ing. Mr.. Nicely's vote never reached
higher than two votes.
A resolution indorsing the admin
~istration of Governor Paul V. Nc
Mutt in behalf of the schools was
adopted unanimously when eX-
pected opposition failed to material
ize. The teachers also Endorsed a
resolution favoring the gross income
tax over other forms of taxation.
Thirteen sections we're reinstated
bv the convention. They are
platoon. speech, deans of women,
handwriting. Bible study, library,
modern Languages. classical, nature
study. biology. economics and So
GEOLOGY. geography and physical
education. Last year it was de-
cided to merge these with other
sections.
Resolution Is Withdrawn
When a battle arose v e his reso-
luton that a commission be APP
pointed to study possible CO.
ordination of education facilities,
!. r. Mitchell. Seymour. asked that
it be tabled. The opposition claimed
that the commission tended to make
the association bureaucratic and
not democratic.
The teachers voted to hold their
convention at the same time next
year as this.
other resolutions adopted included
the appointment of a committee to
investigate the establishment of a
credit union, a committee to de-
sign a new constitution and the re-
duction of the secretary's salary
from $4,000 to $4,000 a year.
Retirement Act Stands
The convention failed to pass a
resolution reducing the maximum
age retirement from forty to
thirty years of service. The legiS-
lative committee strongly urged
the teachers to support its pro-
gram and resist any efforts to
abolish the gross income tax.
Other reports at this mornings
meeting included the neurology
committee. the Secretary-treaSurer
the auditing committees and the
Indiana teacher committee.
National Chief to Speak
Speakers at the session at ? to-
day at Cadle tabernacle were
DR.. Henry Lester Smith, National
Education Association presidentsw who
will discuss Our Program of sAc-
ton and James H. Richmond,
Kentucky superintendent of public
instruction. whose subject was The
Responsibility of Government for
the Support of the Schools
simultaneously a meeting was to
be held at Murat theater at which
DR.. Fred B. Smith. New York. was TO
talk on Why They Don't Fight"
and DR.. George s. Counts of Co
lumbia university teachers college
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Roosevelt Begins Trip

u = TTT"T I ="
WASHINGTON, Oct. 19.-Presi-
dent Roosevelt left Washington at
9:58 a. m. today for Roanoke, Va,
where late today he will speak at
the dedication of a veterans hos
pitaL.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19

In the Air
Weather conditions at 9 a. m:
North wind, eight miles an hour;
barometric pressure. 1927 at sea
level; temperature, At; general con-
ditions, overcast; ceiling estimated
at 1900 feet; visibility, two miles,
light fog.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19
StOU Ransom BdnknOte
Found Here; Spurs Hunt
$40 Bill Obtained by Telephone Company EmpIoye Proves
Part of K~idnaper'S Loot.

Discovery of one of the Ston ransom banknotes here last night today
spurred department of justice agents and police to renewed activity in
the hunt for the abductor of Mrs. Alice Speed StoL
The ransom note, unquestionaby one of the $40 bills included in the
$4,000 ransom obtained by Thomas H. Robinson Jry was found in
possession of Albert Paul Johnson, employe in the automatic department
of the Indiana Bell Telephone Company.
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sons by means OF tlnger~
prints and Indiana license
plates issued in his wife's
name, was found abandoned
at Springfield.
The kidnaper's father, 7. H.
Robinson Sr., was under ar
rest at Nashville, Tenn, on
charges of aiding his son and
the latter's wife in the kid
mapping of Mrs. Stoll.
The elder Robinson, to whose
home the ransom money was sent
by the victims millionaire husband,
was at liberty under $4,000 bond
pending a hearing on his removal
to Louisville.
Today one of the most puzzling
of the many questions remaining
unanswered is the holding under
$500 0 bond of Mrs. Frances Alt
hauser Robinson, wife of the C
cused kidnaper. Through her coun-
sci, Glen w. Higgins, well-known
Tennessee criminal lawyer, Mrs.
Robinson claimed that she had been
the victim of a "frameup."
She told Mr.. Higgins that she was
in Nashville at the time of Mrs.
CtoIIsr oAJrtctfo1 apd tho fret tina
she realized that her husband was
the kidnaper was when ne tele-
phoned her there Monday.
Had Lived in Indianapolis
Her story, as related by Mr.. Hug
gins, after two conversations with
his client, follows briefly:
She said that she had been living
with her husband in the Indian
apolis apartment until the Monday
before the kidnapping when she re-
turned to Nashville to visit her
mother and small son. After she
had received the phone call from
her husband she understood that
her father-in-laW had gone down.
town to attend a conference.
She told Mr.. Higgins that she be-
lieved this meeting had been at
tended by J. Carlton Loster, David
son county Nashville Attorney
general, a Nashville federal inyesti-
gator and a representative of the
Stoll family in addition to the elder
Robinson. Mr.. Higgins said he had
understood her to say that former
Ambassador Frederic NJ. Sackett
was the Stoll family spokesman at
the conference.
Given SIPS for Expenses
At this meeting, it was decided
that Mrs. Robinson should deliver
the ransom money to her husband.
She understood that she would be
acting with the full knowledge Of
federal investigators and others at
the conference.
The ransom was turned over to
her and she vas given S125 by a
Nashville attorney to cover her ex-
penses on the trip to Indianapolis.
She said she understood that this
money had been provided by the
Stoll family representative.
She then was driven to a town
near Nashville where she boarded
a train for Terre Haute. There she
engaged a taxi to drive her to In
dianapolis. Arriving there she was
worried, she said, because CT the
large sum of money she was carry
ing and left the cab in a garage.
From the garage, she told Higgins
she had gone to the traction ter
minal. Eventually she took an Illi-
nois street a to Twenty-eighth
street, near her husbands apart
ment, which she said she reached
about 9 Tuesday morning.
She said she Immediately took the
brown paper package containing the
ransom money from her suitcase
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FINANCIAL AID
ADMITTED BY MELLON

Only Guaranteed $4,000 Payment,
He Replies to PinchOt.
By United Press
PITTSBURGH, Oct. 19.-Andrew
w. Mellon disclosed today that he
guaranteed a $75,O 600 payment for
Joseph F. Guffey, Democratic sena-
torial candidate, but denied that he
had ever lent Mr.. Guffey any funds,
as charged last night by Governor
Clifford Pinchot.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19
Stoll KIDNAPPING Establishes New Low for. Stupidity

bile in a position on the winding
driveway to the Stol home that
made it necessary for him to ma
neuver after loading the kidnap
victim in the ar.
No kidnaper would do this, this
reporter believed. Why would not
a kidnaper plan a quick getaway?
All fragments Of evidence as
sembled pointed to another type
of crime.
. . q
XXTHEN the case finally broke.
w however, all these battling
discoveries were explained.
Up to that time, the ransom let
ter was regarded by private inves-
tigators as a plant to throw po-
lice of the trail.
Robinson Jr., a paroled patient
from a Tennessee asylum, had
been a law student.
Everything that he plotted laid
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19
T0DAY'S WEATHER
In the Air

Tomorrow's sunrise, Col a. m,
sunset, 4:49 p. m.
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u. S., JAPAN NAVAL
DELEGATES CONFER
Nippon Ambassador, Admiral Call
on Davis, STANDBY.

Wh DN'' 0H
By T3ifed Press
LONDON. Oct. 19.-The first di-
rect contact of United States and
japanese naval delegations occurred
today when Ambassador Tsuneo
Matsudaira and Admiral Yamamoto
visited Norman H. Davis and Ad-
miral William H. Standby. They re-
NAMED twenty minutes. Navies were
not discussed.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-10-19
BY Upton BLISH
Times staff Writer

Photostahc copy of the full ransom note will be found on page 81
Evening star., 1934-01-07
South Carolina Favorite, Duke
Second Best Bet, Is Southern
Conference Basket Ball Dope

Washington and Lees well-fortif1ed
team. with five veterans and a couple
of outstanding sophomoreS with the
f1ashy Joe Sawyers setting the pace at
forward, may prove a dark horse.
North Carolina feels the loss of Will
mer Hines, last years captain and mag.
nificent forward, but appeared impress
sive in the final minutes Of its winning
game against Clemson.
N. c. States wolf pack, described by
Coach Ray Sermon as no better than
mediocre" bowled over Clemson's
Tigers, who lost also to Duke for three
consecutive reverses in Southern Con-
ference play.
COACH BURTON SHIPLEY has five
capable performers up at Mary
land. with Rufus Vincent. leading
Southern Conference scorer last season.
pacing the quintet, but a lack of re-
serve strength may hurt the Old Lin
ers' chances. However, Shipley will
gain Vic Willis. 6-foot 4-inch tosser
who has been ineligible. on January "a,
and this may make quite a difference
Graduation was particularly unkind
to Virginia Tech, which lost five letter
winners, and another player by illness.
But is heartened by the return of
Bennie Palmer, who was ineligible a
season ago.
Gus Tebell has only three veterans
at the University of Virginia, and only
one player, Henry Sturm, who per-
formed regularly last season
Coach Bill Raftery has four letter
men on hand "a Virginia Military In
stitute. four sophomore prospects and
tough schedule ahead.
Evening star., 1934-01-07
y Basket Battles This Week
In Community Center League

TWENTY-SEvEN games, 13 in the
major loop and IA in the minor
circuit, are listed this week in
the Community Center Basket
Ball League on high school courts in
various parts of the city.
With such crack teams as Sholl's D.
c. A. A. U. champs, Investigation and
Trinity battling for the flag along with
other bang-up quints. the major loop
already has aroused much interest.
Never before have SO many leading
teams of the city been grouped into one
league, it is thought.
There's nothing mediocre about most
of the teams in the minor group, either,
and the pennant scramble in that cir
cult also already has excited real in
terest.
Here's the full league schedule for
this week:
MAJOR LOOP.
MONDAY.
Roosevelt. p.m.-stewart's Pharmacy
Roosevelt, pm-sholls VS.. Agricultural
Adjustment Administration.
Central. $40 p.m.-Columbia No. vs.
~ Central: $50 pm1,Hureau Of rnvsstisa-
TUESDAY.
Eastern, s p.m.-Trinity VS.. Congress
Atsass Rooseveit, Aii p.m.-Heurichs VS.. Bureau of
Csasrsi. $50 p.m.-saranaes VS.. colum-
bia No. 4.
WEDNESDAY.
Central. 9:30 p.m.-Mount Vernon vs..
Sholls.
THURSDAY.
Roosevelt. p.m.-Trinity VS.. Columbia
Roosevelt 8 pm.-Shons VS.. Stewart's
Pharmacy.
Central 0:3o p.m.-Bureau Of Investiga-
tion VS.. A. A. A. -
Central. 9:30 pm.-Saranacs VS.. Heuricns.
SATURDAY.
Eastern. $50 pm.-Agricultural Adjust
meut Administration vs.. Saranacs.
MINOR LOOP.
MONDAY.
Roosevelt, p.m.-Tytng Eagles W. 70.
tomac Electric Power co.
Evening star., 1934-01-07
20 YEARS AGO
WARD HANKS, Danny
i i Moeller and CLYDE Milan are
IN THE STAR

i i Moeller and Clyde Milan are
carded to patrol the outfield
again for Washington next season.
Clark Griffith, manager Of the Ma
tionals, has about given up hope OF
getting another seasoned gardener.
Joe Gedeon, reserve outflelder OF
the Washington club. denies he in
tends to Jump to the Federal League.
Good Shepherd basketers defeated
the D. c. National Guard qu.nt. 81
20. The winners used Keith. Free
man, r. Nevitt, A. Boyd and S. Boyd.
Playing for the Guards were San
nino, Croghan, Macdonald, Bonna-
varies and Giovannoni.
Frank Chance, manager Of the
New York Yankees. has obtained es
a coach, Tom DAILY. once a member
of the famous Brooklyn team on
which Keeler, Jennings, Keeley and
other stars performed.
Among famous outfields were those
of Speaker, Hooper and Lewis, Red
Sox, 1912: Oldring, Walsh and Muir
ply, Philadelphia Athletics. 1918;
Jim O'Rourke. Paul Hines and Tom
York, Providence. 1879 or 1880;
Keeler. Kelley and Brodie, Baltimore
Orioles: Keeler. Fielder Jones and
Shacka-d, Brooklyn; Billy Hamilton,
Hugh Duffy and Chic Stahl, Boston,
1897; Sam Thompson, Hardie Rich
ardson and Ned Hanlon, Detroit,
1887; Cobb. Crawford and Davy
Jones. Detroit. 1909, and Clarke,
Beaumont and Sebring, Pittsburgh.
Resolutes won two of three sets
from the Shamrocks in the District
Duckpin League. Resolutes used
Roberts, Fowler. Papham. Mann and
Farrow. Playing for Shamrocks
were Dwyer. Allen, Rodeffer, Avata,
Elmer and Meany.