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The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-07-23
Wall Street
Few Signs of Permanent
Improvement Seen in
u. S. Business.
-BY RALPH HENDERSON,
Tunes special Financial Writer

MOST people in Wall street are
NJ dubious about the business
outlook. They believe that the ad-
m.nig-ration's efforts have done lit
tIe more than bring relief and that
fundamentally we have shown rela-
lively little progress These CT
forts. % is c0ntended. must be con-
rnucd. vtth the consequent pillng
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Produce Markets

Delivered in indianapolis prices; Heavy
hens, l0c Leghorn hens, &c 1884 broil-
e to 2 lbs. and over 13c bareback broilers
11c old ROSTERS. &c; ducks and geese, &c:
young guineas,- 1i2 to 3 lbs, zoe: old
run eggs. loss off lie Each fun case
must weight SIS lbs. gross; a deduction of
10 cents q, pound for each pound under
@28c; No. 2, 25Q26c. Butterfat. zoe;
Quoted by Wadley Company
BY United Press
rm HIG TaSd3ts 99T ezra fsts 5d
l3la@14llsc; dirties No /. 13c; No. ., lie;
checks. No l. 12c: No. :, lie. Butter
M ao5 Scores receipts 1890 2sc extras sxTa rs 80
22c; seconds 86-87la score, 2o@a2oci
Poultry Market steady to easy; receipts,
2 cars, II trucks; Leghorn hens. &c; White
Rock flyers, l5c; colored, l3c; =, colored
broilers. 13c: White Rock 15c, Plymouth
Rock 16c spring geese, &c; turkeys, lac;
OLD registers pos &c. Lfeghorbn broers a 2 lbs
SPRINGS S2 &c. c;i' Plymouth Rock. zoe: White
Rock 19c; hens, over 5 lbs, 12c; under 5
lbs, lie; black chicks, 1Oq12c;. cocks. &c,
STRfrS '0i1s II o''f DAISIES ~ Hi2sg
Longhorns, 1112@1194c. Potatoes-Supply
LIBERAL demand and trading moderate;
showing decay 95c@$G. IS; virginia cob
blers, $1.05@115; showing decay, 81; Vir-
ginia barrel cobblers. $2.05; North Caro-
lima triumphs. barrels. S2.05N210. Arri-
walls, 80; on track. $780, shipments Satur
day. SIT; Sunday II.
NEW YORK July 23.-Potatoes-Easy
Long Island, s1.65M1.85 barrel; New Jer
sew 70cOS1 bag: southern, S1M150 bar
rel: Maine, $lM1.15 barrel. Sweet potatoes
Steady JERSEY basket 85cM S2.25. south
ern basket, 50cMS2 Flour-Steady;
springs; patents. S7.45M7 barrel. Pork
Quiet mess. S19.75 barrel. Lard-Steady;
middle west spot, S4.65m4.75 a 100 lbs.
Dressed poultry-Easy; turkeys, 12G27c;
chickens, 9G27c: broilers, ia 29c; caponS.
IS a 35c: fowls 10M 18c; ducks 12M14c;
Long Island ducks, 12M 15c Live poultry
Dull; geese 7c; turkeys, 100 15c; ROSTERS.
l lie; ducks, 8M11c; fowls, l1@ 15c; brollers,
16d25c. Cheese-Steady; state whole
milk; fancy to specials. 1871 19c; young
American, 1234m13c. Butter-Receipts,
6 901 packages; market frmer; creamery
higher than extras 25A 026c; extra 1872
score. Csc: firSts (90-91 scorel. 24M2434c;
first 1888 scorel 23G 23I2c; seconds. %
a 22lac. Eggs-Receipts. 1920 cases;
market. firm; special packs including un-
usual hennery selections, 20M23l2c; stand
ards. 1871. n 10 &C; firStS. TIC, seconds, Is
m16hc; mediums 16c; dirties, l6c checks,
CLEVELAND. July -Butter-Market.
firm; extras 28c standards, 28c. Eggs
Market. steady: extra white. nc: current
receipts l4c Poultry Market-Steadv:
colored fowl Az lbs. and UP 15c; old
ROSTERS 10c; ducks white, lbs. and
up 15c.
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Vegetables


Sweet Corn-Home grown. doz Csc.
Cabbage-Home grown. bushel. 65c.
Celery-Mchigan, at boxes, SIPS; me-
dunn. doz. 45c
Onions-CaliGornia yellow, 5O-lb. bag
Potatoes-Rural New York. 1o0-lb bag
s1.65; Idaho Russets. l0O-lb. bag, 81; new
barrel, $3.50.
Sweet potatoes-New Alabama, bushel
Beans-Round stringless, bushel. S1.75.
Beets-New. 25c dozen.
Carrots-Home grown, bushel. 81; doz.
35c.
CauIihower-10s-11s crate $3.50
Lettuce-Outdoor, 15-lb. basket 85c; ice
berg best 50 a crate.
Pes-California, hamper, 50.
Radishes--Ohio. so doz. punches. soc.
Phubarb-Home-g grown. dozen, . 30c.
Spinach-Home grown. bushel, 65c.
Toma toes-HothouSe. l0-lb. basket. soc
original Tenn. 3O-lb. lug s.
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up OF govern
meut de BITS
and potential
taxes Event
ually accord
Ing 70 their
sOning We
must either
20 thr h
the dcdatiOn
WrinCer or
indulge IN
imitation In
IlatiOn Is
feared be
cause 10 is
felt 10 can
not be con
tr0lled
An O. G. on 20
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1 c. c. AuthorI.e. RaiI Purehase

WASHINGTON. July 23.-The in
tegstace commerce commission tcday
authorized the Southern Pacific 10
9cquire properties OF the New Mex
leo g. Arizona ana the Tucson &
Noga,es railroads. The acquisition
viii give the Southern Pacific more
than 100 miles Of railroad n Arr
zo.a.
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Treasury Statement


WASHINGTON. july 23.-Government
expenses and receipts OF the current
fiscal wear 10 july 90 compared with
Tho corresponding period OF the previous
fiscal wear.
This Year Last Year
Expenses 8 300. 723. 980. 40 s225. 7l6. 572. "a
Receipts I63. 305.552.54 lis 6O7. 865 &c
Dedcit POS f18.527.36 10 105, 706 SO
Cash bal 2 52i 597 .0l6.f2 .---. e. .
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Chicago Stocks
Bv Aooott. Hoppin { Coz
Cash Grain
INDIANAPOLIS

July FL
The bids for car lots OF grain AZ the
call OF the Indianapolis Board OF Trade
o. b.. shipping point, basis II &C. "a
river. were
Wheat--Strong: No red. 9iTe2c No
? red 9OU9lc. No . hard 90N9Ic.
Corn-Strong: No. white SO sic: No
, white 50 soc: No > yellow. 81 ! & IS ,c.
No yellow 56i2 d57i7c. No ? mixed
oats-stronso 10 White 43@ 44c: No
3 white 42T43c.
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IS Nav / 1924 ....... 1O429 10l ~
As July /. 1851 ..-..... 101.01 10l .06
Federal Farm Mortgage Corporation
3l,s March Is, l964-44 ~. 1929 1924
The latter three quotations are in thirty
seconds
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onlst OF one Of the leading banks
THINKS we should have taken the
bill Or the horns az the time of the
bank holiday early in 1888 and in
ono major operation completed the
liquidation process. He would have
allowed only sound banks 20 re-
open al that time and started the
nation of with a clean financial
slate He has no answer for the
question Of what explanation the
state and national governments
would have given depositors who
lost money through the process in
view OF their supervision over bank
ing activities
Viewed from our present position.
this economist would still do a Ger
tain amount Of cleaning house. He
contends that dcflatiOn in a few
industries would provide a SUI
fciently sound basis upon which 10
build a steady. but gradual recovery.
He docs not expect this TO happen
ana fOrcsecs ultimate currency in
datiOn as a result
CTILL others IN the financial dis
> triCt look forward 10 a period Of
debt cancellations. The government
itself viii be one of the chief losers.
according 10 their way of thinking.
Many people viii not meet their
obligations 10 the Home Owners
Loan Corporation. they maintain.
and the government VIII not have
the courage or the desire to fore
close on these mortgages Such a
step would have serious political
consequences. they feel.
The destruction Of crops and farm
animals is regarded quite generally
IN the Street as an economic fallacy.
While approaching the handicap to
satisfactory prices Of a heavy sur
plus of agricultural products, the
point Is made that If destruction of
property is economically justified
wars also are a good thing for ma
ton from an economic standpoint
And they argue, most of our
troubles today are traceable to the
World war
INTERNATIONAL trade agree
A mentS would constitute a highly
constructive development at this
time If they were made on the basis
Of mutual fairness. many authorities
maintain. The extension OF credit to
financially crippled nations also
would help. these authorities claim.
They take the stand that the world
should forget its natiOnalisuc trade
policies and each nation should 90
all within its power 10 foster inter
national commerce. That difficult
ties would be encountered in that
connection Is granted, but 1t IS
argued that some progress could be
made II the United States would
take the lead
But The Street was wrong IN 1927
and 1928. To NAV be- wrong today
The fact that il is desperate nOv
may tend 70 warp its judgment. Just
as its ovcrC0nfdcncc threw IL of he
track a few years ago. II puts too
much emphasis on figures and not
cDorfrn M, human cu7Nrf0uc
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1934-07-23
In the Cotton Markets
NEW ORLEANS
Retail Coal Prices

The following prices represent quota.
lions from leading Indiana polls coal deal
srS. A cash discount Of 25 cents per tor
Is allowed
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DOLLAR VALUE CLIMBS
Pound Equivalent to S5.0f', in L. s
Money at London Market.

LONDON. july 23-The pound
was $500 TODAY Gold was S34.76
a fine ounce. down one-half Of one
en-. with the sterling price 1877
n ngs 1Or- pence. up one penny.
DAYS rate was fixed with the
at S504s.
rs. July 23-FranCS were
10 the dollar today $3.50
n france.
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FOREIGN EXCHANGE

b. Abbott. Hopin d Co..
july IL
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ST. LOUIS. July 21.-Cash Grain. Wheat
In unnd dema nd ]. 1c hirhpr on rnd

in good uemand :, 10 Ic highcT on RED
and rs to 224c higher on hard. No. /
red 98il 94981ac: No. red. ga 98tac early.
and 98c al close: No. red 96a97i2c: No.
4 red. 95iaQ96l4c No. red. ga 2M95 &c.
No. 2 red garlicky. 93i2d95c: No. red
garlicky 93la G94fac: No red garicky.
90 2 assoc; No ? red smutty, 96iac; No. 3
red smutty. 95iac No. I hard S104 No.
l dark hard. S104ia; No. light garlicky
95M 9ec: sample light garlckv IS &C: No.
l mixed 98lac No. 3 mixed, S1.01i2. Corn
In fair demand 1 TO lac higher; No. ,
yellow. Csc: No yellow. 64iac: No. 5
yellow SO nc. OatS-In slow demand I'M
changed No 1 mixed 474c
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Money and Exchange

INDIANAPOLIS HMM LLEAkINGS
July %
Clearincg 81 752 ono no
Debts ...-... ..-....-- . 1908 900 90
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LoeaI wagon wheat
lBy United Press

City grain elevators are paving So cents
for No. soft red -SSat Otner grades
on their merits
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CHICAGO. July 2l.-Close: Wheat
99099a,c: No 4 red. CSC; Smuttv: No.
hard 81 2GI05; No. ? hard Sl.03i %
l.04l2 No 3 hard Sl.01l2 tough Corn
No. mixed Ga izc, No , yellow. 650
SIS &c No yellow CSC No yellow. SIC
No. white. 67iec; No. , white. S., g
SIC; No white. g. &C. OatS-No. .
white. 47hc Rve-No. 2 Is &C Barley
CSC; ouotsble 5S0 96c Timothv-s9 35sl
$50. Clover Seed-Sl0 25Hl40O. Cash
Provisions: Lard-S7 o.: loose. $40 leaf
S6.37. bellies $40
The Washington times., 1934-06-29
By Elsie Robinson

hibit the obviously unfit from
having them.
Establish birth control clincS,
under strict Federal and State
supervision, to aid mothers. In
other words, give at least as
much attention to the breeding
of human beings as we now give
to the breeding Of hogs and
calves.
Sterilize feeble-minded per-
sons, habitual congenital Grim
inals and those afflicted with
Unbeatable diseases.
Make the right to parenthood
distinct from the right to
marry. Make every husband
and wife, who wish to produce
children, produce permits show
ing their physical fitness and
financial responsibility to do so.
Make such permits for par.
enthood valid for only one birth.
Give each new baby break!
If we really wish to protect
the sanctity of marriage" that,
says Margaret Sanger, is the
only sincere and sane method to
take.
Do you agree with her? Or
do you believe that the Adas
and Johns should be permitted
to produce ad lib-regardless
Of resultant diseases, depravity
and death?
copyright, 1894. King Features
Syndicate, Inc.)
The Washington times., 1934-06-29

your diseased and detective
children. Don't let anyone dis
courage you or violate the
sanctity of your marriage by
saying you should stop. You've
as good a right as the noblest
woman in this country to have
all the babies you want.
"And you needn't worry
about their futures, either. We
taxpayers will take care Of
them. Well keep them from
starving and freezing. Well
provide them with free schools,
hospitals, fine roads and public
gardens.
But suppose they steal our
property? Spread immeasur-
able viciousness? Burn our
home? Kill decent men and
women? Torture and debauch
helpless little girls?
"Well-of course we'll have to
admit the chances are they'll do
those very things. But don't
worry about that, eth er
Mother, dear. Go right on hav-
ing your babies. And if they get
too troublesome, we'll feed 'em
free in our great, big, beautiful
jails-or burn or strangle 'em
to death without a cent of ex-
pense to either you or dad"
Would you say that to any
woman with such a record? Of
course you wouldn't. No matter
how much you reverenced
motherhood, no matter how you
felt about the sanctity of mar
riage, if, you, personally, had to
deal with such a woman, you'd
chill with horror and demand
that something be done about
her-pronto!
Yet that is exactly what you,
as a taxpayer, said to one Amer
lean mother whom you never
saw . and that is exactly the
record she made.
In 1855, Ada Stebbins, a
drunkard, married John Nc
Guirk, a thief. There was no
law to stop her. There was no
one appointed to question the
right of two such people to pro-
duce their kind and rear them
The Washington times., 1934-06-29
WORLD!

according to their depraVed
standards.
Nor had the taxpayers Of
America any way to protest or
protect themselves against this
frightful burden of sh me,
danger and expense which was
about to be laid upon them.
According to the laws of these
United States, Ada and John
had as good q right to have as
many babies as they desired,
and raise them in any way they
wished, as the most Christian
and cultured citizens of our
land. And they proceeded to
go the limit!
In three generations, "a de-
fectiveS came of the union.
How much harm did those
detectives do? How m u C n
property did they destroy? How
much innocence did they cor.
rupt? How much disease did
they spread? How many lives
did they blast? No one can
tell. But this we know-you
and I footed those bills. And
we will continue to foot them
for generations to come.
There is the record Of just
one American couple. To off.
set it, there are-thank God!
the shining records Of the clean
and intelligent unions. If Ada
Stebbins, the drunkard, fouled
the world with vicious fruits,
Elizabeth futile, gentlewoman,
blessed it with rich fruits.
Thirty-seven Of our most famous
citizens came from Elizabeth.
But every one Of those 81
lives. and all the other mil
lions of clean, fine lives which
are the hope of this nation. i.
were menaced by the human
scum whom Ada and John be-
got. And that menace will con-
tinue as long as we allow the
criminal, the diseased and the
unfit to marry and breed with
out control.
IS THAT CIVILIZED?
Margaret Sanger, writing for
a current periodical, says it
isn't. Margaret Sanger believes
in motherhood. She is q mother
herself. She believes that babies
are the greatest treasure of any
nation-provided they are the
right kind Of babies, from the
right kind Of homes and the
right kind Of people.
But she does not believe
parents with the rating of wild.
cats and weasles or babies with
the moral qualifications of rat.
tleSnakeS and rats, are either
a treasure or a treat. Instead,
she believes that they are a
menace and an abomination-
and a black shame to any ma.
ton which permits them. And
for years she has been demand.
ing that something be done
about them.
What does she want? She
wants America to established a
baby code! Meaning what?
Meaning this:
Generously assist the right
couples to have babies. Pro-
The Washington times., 1934-06-29
PERKINS
CONFERS WITH
STEEL BOARD
BY International News Service

BY International News Service
With only their jurisdiction &C
cepted and neither side pledged
to abide by their findings, the
three members of the new, i'm
partial National Steel Labor Re
lations Board started efforts to
settle grievances between employ
ers and workers in the steel in
dustry by comforting with Secre-
tary of Labor Frances Perkins
today.
Members Non.Partisan
The board is composed of Wal
ter P. Stacy, chief justice of the
North Carolina Supreme Court;
Admiral Henry A. Wiley, retired,
and James Mullenbach, veteran
labor arbitrator and a member Of
the Petroleum Labor Policy Board.
They have no personal interests
in the steel industry or in organ
lied labor.
Their pay will be $40 a day and
expenses and they will report to
Mr.. Roosevelt through Miss
Perkins.
Both sides made important con-
cessions for the boards creation,
which prompted the President to
say:
II appreciate the constructive
and reasonable spirit which has
prevailed in both groups. l con-
fidently expect full cooperation
Of both sides with this board"
Labor won its point by having
the employers accept-actually
recommend, according to Miss Per-
kins, after refusing for months
that the employers deal with rep
resentatives elected by a majority
Of employees in any one plant.
Miss Perkins Optimistic
The employers also had the
workers accept their proposal for
individual workers, and any part
Of their group, to confer directly
with their employers and not
through any agent elected by the
majority. This will permit COM
pany unions to continue in force.
Members Of the board will be
allowed to inspect company pay
rolls and other necessary records
to certify voting lists for employe
elections. Miss Perkins remarked:
'My impression is that the
strike is settled. 1t is q very
real and substantial achieve
ment."
William Green, president Of the
American Federation Of Labor,
pledged cooperation.
The Washington times., 1934-06-29
PUBLIC POOLS
LIST HOURS

Hot weather news!
Swimming hours have been an
nounced for four municipal pools
Here they are:
Seventeenth st. and Consti-
tuition Ave-: Mixed bathing
every day from 6 a. m. to 9
O. M, and from 4 p. m. to 6
D. m. except Sundays when the
pOol is closed. Girls only on
Mondays, Wednesdays and Fri
I days, 9 o. m. to 3 p. m. Boys
; only, Tuesdays, Thursdays and
Saturday, from 8 a. m. to 3 p. m.
! Rosedale and Georgetown
Pools: Boys on Tuesdays,
Thursdays and Saturdays. Girls
on other days; no swimming
Sundays.
Howard Pool: Mixed bathing
every day but Sunday from
q a. m. to 9 p. m. Girls on
Mondays, Wednesdays and Fri
days, 9 a. m. to 6 p. m. Boys
on other week days, same
hours.
The Washington times., 1934-06-29
War Pensions Bill
/ Si0ned bu President

BY International News Service
President Roosevelt has signed
o bill providing compensation for
widows and children of service
men who died while receiving
monetary benefits for disabilities
incurred in active military or
naval service in the World War.
The bill involves an outlay Of
approximately $4,000, 900.
The Washington times., 1934-06-29

eight COM
mon drunk
ards. twenty
two abandon
ed women.
eleven idiots
would you
still consider
her a noble
or even a de-
sirable citi-
re n? A n d
W ould you
say to her:
That's a
fine record,
my dear. Go
on: produce
The Washington times., 1934-06-29
LICENSED TO WE'D

Robert Hughes, who issues the
marriage licenses in Rockville, yes
terday issued but one license to
wed. The license was issued to
Wilson S. Judd, %, of the 1900
block Columbia Rd. N. w., and
Miss Helen Virginia Wilson, 20. of
the 1900 block Decatur st. N. w
The Washington times., 1934-06-29

Motherhood! A be utiful
word? Yes-maybe.
But suppose Mother produces
three murderers. .twenty-eight
criminals (mostly thieVes) :.
The Washington times., 1934-05-10


Blouse fashions make just an
other one of those hard jobs
for a fashion editor, for they
are so very varied. If I'd go
downtown and look at every
blouse in every shop, I could
tell you the complete story. But
that would take much more
time and patience, not to men
ton space, than I have to
spare.
Many Fabrics Smart
So we must generalize again,
and say that almost every fab
ric. and every nuance and de
tail known to the dressmaking
and blousemaking trade are
used to make these new blouses
attractive and wearable. Every
thing from the simplest shirt
waist in tailored fashion to the
frilliest net is good, and you'll
find them all worn with tail
ored suits, linen suits, Swaggers,
formal suits and on through
the day.
Newest and most popular at
the moment are the frilly sheer
blouses. They are of lacey
knits, mainly boucle, of lace, of
net, of sheer materials, such
as organdie or chiffon. They
The Washington times., 1934-05-10
Foot Comfort Is
Valued Aid
To Beauty
BY JULIET SHELBY
The Beauty Reporter

In spring our feet demand
special attention, for they shake
their winter ennui and swell
numerically. And just because
we cannot throw off our shoes
and gambol on fresh grass,
they burn in a sullen and con-
Sistent manner. Certainly no
woman can appear we'll poised
and beautiful if her feet burn.
The pain she feels is expressed
in her drawn eyes and pinched
face.
OF course, one professional
pedicure takes care of foot prob
lens for weeks and weeks, but
If you cannot afford such a
luxury, then you must give
yourself a pedicure at home.
There is a product that is
strongly recommended for treat.
ing burning feet, corns, cal.
louses and bunions. 1t is sim.
pie to use and is effective
after a pedicure, although it
may be used whenever the
feet are tender. Athletes use
it to prevent their feet from
blistering.
Get it, and use it after The
following treatment, and foot
comfort will be yours for a
very little cost:
With callous file which can
be purchased at any drugstore,
file off the dead skin from
your feet. Prepare a foot bath
consisting of one pound of bath
bran, a teaSpoonful of ammonia
and a half-cup of powdered
soap in a gallon of hot water,
In this soak your feet for 20
minutes. Dry them with a
rough Turkish towel. rubbing
OH all white, dead skin.
Manicure your toenails and
use the same liquid polish to
brighten them that you use
for your finger nails. Massage
in a little cream or oil, espe.
cially on the soles of your
feet. Then take the product
mentioned above and follow
the instructions printed on it's
wrapping. Your feet will feel
so refreshed and comfortable
that you will sally forth to
buy a new pair of shoes
If you want to know where
you can purchase any article
mentioned in this column,
phone The Washington Times,
District 1000, Extension 2S3,
between 9 a. m. and 5 p. m.
daily, and up to l p. m. on
Saturdays. Please do not write
unless you live outside the city,
in which case incloSe a stamped,
self addressed envelope.
Copyright 1894. King Features
Syndicate, 1nc.)
The Washington times., 1934-05-10
CROCUS

With what delight we discover
the gay yellow and lovely purple
flowers of the crocus, that first
spring flower! Crocus, in a
very simple block, reproduces
this flower and offers the needle
woman the opportunity of max
ing a quilt as colorful as a scat
tered patch of crocus. The
flowers could be made all of the
same color if preferred instead
of in different materials as
shown. This quilt will add a
decorative touch to any bed
room and at the same time be