Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1934-06-11

your sincerity. This Is a free land
and you have a right 20 your opinion.
But there are certain questions I wish
to ask you in connection with a
speech you delivered before the Amer
lean Economic Association"
Senator Byrd read from it a SEN
tence dressed in the language Of the
political economist.
II can't understand that" said Sen
ator Byrd, land wish you'd explain. "
Mr.. Tugwell said his speech had
been delivered to a group OF econo-
mists and the language had been
technical. He said there had been a
great deal of talk about planning" at
that time. Most of the talk was rather
loose, he said. .
Il spoke about the substitution OF
chance for the interpretations, OF MS
tory. which had gone before, he SAID
When he had completed his ex-
PLANTATION of the sentence. senator
Byrd's comment was: That's just
about as clear as it was before.
Revolution questions.
Senator Byrd asked whether Mr..
Tugwell had in mind an industrial
and social revolution when he mace
the speech.
st did not intend to advocate an
industrial revolution in that speech,
said Mr.. Tugwell I was merely
talking about the question
Did you favor planned economy"
asked Senator Byrd.
Mr.. Tugwell said what he really
had favored was what the present
administration is doing; that he did
not favor such planned economy as he
had discussed in his speech.
"You made three statements" said
Senator Byrd, which seem to indi-
cate that you believed in what you
were discussing"
II think not" replied Mr. Tugweu
Predictions Borne Out.
The Senator said Mr.. Tugwell had
declared the present situation in the
United States seemed to be full OF
dynamite.
"All I said" replied Mr.. Tugwell
quietly, seems 20 have been borne
out. But the conditions are being
corrected by the changes made in
this administration.
MIR. Tugwell added that he repudi-
ated nothing he had said in the
speech.
Il was speaking purely as scien-
fist and it was so understood by every
economist precent. I took no atti-
tude on the subject discussed.
Capable of Meeting Change.
Senator Byrd asked Mr.. Tugwell
his views about the Constitution. The
witness replied by quoting from John
Marshall that the Constitution is
capable of meeting changes in con-
ditions.
Il believe in the American Consti-
tuition" said Mr.. Tugwell. Il believe
it is flexible enough to allow us to
meet these emergencies through which
we have been going. We have had
no opinion from the Supreme Court
yet in regard to the agricultural ad-
justment act. But we have had five
decisions from lower courts all up
holding the law"
Mr.. Tugwell denied fatty he wanted
to put into effect the kind of planned
economy mentioned in his speech. He
said again he believed in the Consti-
tuition and asked:
why wouldn't I? I was brought up
under it,"
Senator Byrd asked: ITO what ex-
tent do you believe in the principles
outlined in your speech to the Eco
nomic Association" He then read
some excerpts from that speech, in
which Mr. Tugwell said if there was
to be a planned economy, statesmen
would have to be removed, laws
changed.
Sees Choice Already Made.
Mr.. Tugwell replied he thought the
choice made by the people in 1882,
which removed some statesmen from
office, had proved the truth of what
he said.
You think that the problems have
been settled, them said Senator
Byrd
NO" replied Tugwell, adding that
the President had recently recon-
mended to Congress number of i'm
portant changes that we're necessary.
At this point Senator Byrd said
every one must believe" Mr.. Tugwell
had believed in the principles he was
outlining in his speech.
Norris Protests Method.
Senator Norris blew up at that
point He insisted Senator Byrd, in
asking questions, was attempting to
put into the mouth of the witness
things he had no intention of saying.
This brought an immediate protest
from Senator Smith, who declared
Senator Byrd was "a gentleman" and
could properly conduct the investiga-
ton of the witness
Senator Norris made sarcastic ref
erence to Senator Byrd as the new
chairman of the committee" since
he had been placed in Senator
Smiths chair, and said he personally
had no objection to the substitution
Senator Norris insisted, however, he
himself did not believe what Senator
Byrd had said, therefore he should
not suggest to Mr. Tugwell a view
point taken by every one"
Smith Attacks Norris.
Settling with indignation, Senator
Smith interrupted. These personal
filings referring to Senator Norris)
are unbecoming man worthy of sit
ting as member of the United States
Senate. Because I was courteous
enough to give another Senator my
seat is no reason for such comment"
Senator Byrd continued: I'm my
judgment no man can read your
sneech without helievinc voiI e,,h