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The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20
By Eddie Ash
Lefty Grove Belongs in Wonder Class
Tall Pitcher Possesses Amazing Record

HE alstar big league team pickers had tough time this
year leaving Lefty Grove off their selections and if the
experts pinned right down they would that after
all the anky southpaw of the Athletics belongs alongside Carl
Hubbe tops twenty-three games and lost eight
and always ready out there and pitch although at
times his club far below the form of other years
His record truly is remarkable Over stretch of eight
Grove has 1914 games and lost seventynine
averaging less than eight setbacks per against
average Of better than twenty-four victories.
Lefty set himself up a real twirler in 1923 when he
twenty-four tits and lost eight In 1929 it twenty
and 1880, twenyeight and five; 1881 thrtyone and
four 1892 twenty-five and ten. From 1928 to and ncud
ing 1888 Grove Isl games and dropped foryone
aging better than twenty-five victories against less than
defeats.
GROVE the forty-hv
" the 1888 drive and made difference how the stood and
statiscians will
th efthanders in the bstorv the national pasme He not
on e Ina d et t tb 5e Connia Nfack hard at
couple of times and finally dismissed failed to upset Lefty
will be found at the heights again burning his
to pile his usual twenty tumph
"A HANY football fans requested republication
M Purdue N Dame and G n 6s s The three oo9s Tb the
confused about home dates For example all three Will De Out
OF the STATE @ % purdue at CHICAGO Oct % Purdue at Wisconsin
Nov Carnegie Purdue NO Dame Nov
u.s. iowa Purdue; 10 Purdue Indiana. 80
Notre d. Oct % Pitts
bh Noe Dame Nov N8r S Dame VS. Navy Nov Now
Southern Dame; Dec Noe Dame Army
1ndana-oct 81 Indiana Nohvestern open;
H. Indiana Chicago Nov 49, Indiana
Xavier 25 Purdue at Indiana
TAR ROBERT MAYNARD HUTcHNs youthful president the
n1ron 9 in their conference football game
prospects football Chicago not good as the would lead
DR. annual
indianapolis the Hooer boys romp
the Maroons'
Boyhood ODo pinch hit hero of the
world Frenchy Odeau when they knew him
Perhaps
Lefty had chance baseball and switched
to Anyway, it worked
Jock Sutherland the
Maybe that's
Panther tough.
infelder the
Chicago Marty
Nfanus taken
on protect
Terry a with the Mud Hens.
CABBY appointed Of the Francisco
" that city a
Gabby
The old of
the shakes Ell
Giants the filters there this
rocking
experience and the pennant and world title.
they're putting temporary
Arbor Saturday other joins
8 o. u of M.
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Mat Pilot
Fills Card
0'ShOCker. Lever. De Vito
and Steinborn Added to
Armory Bill.

Nationally known WreStlerS have
been signed for the three bouts on
the Hercules A. c. mat card Tues
day night at the Armory on North
Pennsylvania street.
In addition to the feature clash
which brings together Andy
Rascher, Hoosier star. and the ag-
gressive Tom Bulldog Marvin.
Matchmaker Lloyd Carter will offer
two supporting bouts in which
headline grapplers will provide the
action.
Pat O'Shocker. red-headed Irish
man from Salt Lake City. will OPP
pose Dick Lever, prominent Pacific
coast husky. in the semi windup.
Lever has met such outstanding
heavies as Gus Sonnenberg, Joe
Savoldi and John Pesek.
Milo Steinborn. German strong
man." returns to the city to OPP
pose Joe De Vito, New York. who
won over Sun Jennings here re-
Gently. They will collide in the
opener.
Garter believes the RaScher-M Mar
vim tussle will prove a thriller and
rates the match as a natural"
The former Indiana university grid
and mat ace lost one-fall bout to
the rough Indian on Oct. 9 after
being on the offensive until the
closing minutes.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

tracas "unbandaged"
For several weeks, Wabash scouts
have been lowering around at
all Bulldog contests. But in the
past week, Mackey has completely
reVamped the Blue offensive attack.
and whatever information was OBJ
tanned will be Of little use-maybe.
The traditional battle undoubted-
ly will bring the largest crowd of
the season, as the records from the
north-Side institution show that
hundreds Of grads and friends have
Signif1ed intentions of attending the
annual homecoming activities.
Mackey said today he probably
would start the following men:
Ends, Thomas and Laymon; tack
les, Brown and Armstrong; guards.
Bats and Bunnell; center. John
son; quarter back, J. Stewart: half
backs, Ray and Weger; full back,
Bob Stewart,
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4 City Prep
ElevenS Play

A city rivalry battle between Tech
and Manual at the east side field
today. and two games on foreign
gridirons Saturday are on the city
prep grid program. Manuals i'm
proved eleven. which tied Short
ridge last week, was expected to
give Tech a real test.
Cathedral wound up practice to-
day with a signal drill for Satur-
days invasion of New Albany, where
they hope to repeat last years win.
Sullivan and Mcmahon starred in
yesterdays scrimmage.
Shortridge will be minus the serv-
ices of BARLEY, half back, in the
game at Middletown, o., tomorrow
afternoon. He suffered a broken
wrist in yesterdays scrimmage and
probably will be out for the rest of
the season.
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Wabash to Parade

bY imcS Special
CRAWFORDSVILLE Ind. Oct
2O.-Four hundred strong, the stu
dents of Wabash college will invade
downtown Indianapolis tomorrow
morning for a gigantic parade and
pep session on the circle before the
annual rivalry football game with
Butler at Fairview bowl. The college
band will lead the march.
Indianapolis alumni of Wabash
are expected to join the students at
the Claypool at IL: 80 for the parade
Enthusiasm at Wabash is the
highest it has been in many years
preceding the Bulldog tussle. A pep
session was held this morning at
the chapel and another demonstra-
ton and downtown parade is sched-
uled tonight.
The Scarlet warriors are all ready
for tomorow's battle, with the ex-
ception of Blackmore, center. and
Gerow, half back, who are out with
injuries.
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Purdue Speeds Up Attack
for Struggle With Chicago

BIZ Times Special
LAFAYETTE, Ind, Oct. 2O.-It
Purdue has a scoring punch, it's
time it was landed,
That expresses the feeling of the
Boilermaker football squad as it en-
trains today for Chicago, to battle
the rejuvenated Maroons in a Big
Ten tussle tomorrow. So far this
season, the Boilermaker offense that
was gaining ground in great gulps
last year has been rather disap-
pointing.
In an effort to revive the suddenly
impotent attack, the Boilermakers
will cut loose against the Maroons
with several plays that have not been
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

Here's the brother act that Butler
football followers claim will prove
too tough for Wabash when the
Hoosier rivals renew their forty
f1ve-year-old feul at Fairview bowl
tomorrow afternoon.
On the left is Bob Stewart, junior
full back, taking the ball from jim
Stewart. They are regulars at these
positions.
Both are big and speedy and do
their part in Juggling the pigskin
gOalward. They also alternate in
tossing and receiving passes and
help out in the kicking.
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and
Sears to Clash

A thrilling battle between two of
the nations outstanding collegiate
distance runners will be staged over
the Fairview course tomorrow when
Indiana's cross-country team meets
Buffers carriers.
Charles Hornboste1 lanky I. U.
veteran, who broke the worlds half
mile record last spring, and Ray
Sears, Buffers national collegiate
mile champion, are the rivals, with
the Crimson star seeking revenge
for his loss to Sears last year.
Sears broke the local course record
Wednesday, turning the three and
one-half miles in Is minutes.
zahn, Lowther, Doudican and
Ryker complete the Butler squad,
and Robinson, Weir, Thompson,
Chattin and Smullen will compete
for I. u.
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Peanut Dean
Socks Triple


BIZ Times Special
HOUSTON, Tex, oct. 2O.-The
Dean family went on parade here
last night in an exhibition charity
baseball game and Dizzy of the ST..
Louis Cardinals pitched his side to
victory 9 to l. Paul Dean of the
Columbus A. A. club started on the
mound for the other side and re-
tired in the first inning on account
of a bruised hand.
Elmer Dean, champion peanut
peddler of the southwest" played
with brother Pauls team and
blasted triple off of brother Je-
rome. Elmer has tried to play base
ball before, but never made the
grade.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20
Butler Students in
Gigantic Pep Session
Interest High in Traditional Bulldog Wabash Rivalry
Struggle at FarVieW Gridiron Saturday at P. M;
Local ChaIIenqers in Top Shane,

gigantic pep session scheduled for today the old
the
at Butler
university
Coach Fritz Mackey let the Bulldogs
ing most Of the practice
be tried against the Scarlet the
afternoon p
All OF the Butler will
including
while danger permanent injury ~
year who has been hampered will enter
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20
TILT AT NORTH VERNON

By Times Special
NORTH VERNON. Ind, Oct 30
The North Vernon Reds, cham
pions of the Southeastern League,
will play its closing game of the
season at home Sunday afternoon
against the Corydon All-Profes-
SIGNALS.
The All-Pros Will be made up of
players from the big leagues and
American Association.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20
SPORTSMAN'S CLUB FIVE

Indianapolis Sportsman's Club has
fast basketball team in the in
dependent field and is ready for &C
ton. The first game will be played
at Edgewood gym Oct. IS. Games
are wanted with strong. city and
state fives. Address Morris Hiatt,
1887 Pleasant street, or phone DR..
2656-J.
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HAWAII FETES RUTH

BIZ Times Special
HONOLULU, Oct. 2O.-Babe Ruth
was given royal reception here
today. He arrived with his wife
and daughter for a series Of exhi-
bition games and was greeted by
10000 Hawaiian admirers.
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BIZ Times Special

BIZ Times Special
BLOOMINGTON, Ind, Oct 90
A revamped Indiana U. team, con-
fident of continuing the sjinx over
Northwestern which has resulted in
three victories in the last five bat
ties. left this morning for Evanston,
where they tangle with the Wild
cats Saturday. Thirty FASTENERS
made the trip.
In an attempt to speed up the
attack. Coach Billy Hayes has
shifted his linemen. Ed Anglemyer,
brilliant tackle for two years, has
been moved to guard, where he will
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20
CLEMSON ELEVEN BOWS

By United Press =
COLUMBIA, S. c., Oct. 20. - A
fun1bled punt, recovered on the
twenty f1ve-yard line, paved the
way for a 7-to-0 victory for South
Carolina over Clemson in a col
legiate football game here yesterday,
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20
Pug Lund to
Face Panthers

BIZ THited Press
MINNEAPOLIS, Oct. 20. - Pug
Lund, Minnesota's star half back,
Will be in the lineup tomorrow
against Pittsburgh. His knee, in
iured slightly il the Purdue game,
has responded to treatment and he
is ready to lead the Gophers' attack.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20
PRESS PLAYS RAMBLERS

The South Side Press nine will
play the indianapolis Ramblers
Sunday at Garfield park. This win
be the third and last game of a Sc
ries between the clubs. All Press
players report not later than 2 D. m.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20
FRACTURE STOPS FOXX

fredericksburg, Md, Oct. 90
Jimmy Foxx' transforming tour
ended here yesterday when an
X-ray revealed a fractured bone in
his left foot, suffered in an exhibit
ton game.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20
DOWN IN DIXIE

A RED hot rivalry contest will be
"A staged in the south Saturday
when Alabama collides with Ten
neSsee at Knoxville, Rhordanz,
sophomore half back, right. is one
of the top cogs in the Alabama ball
toting brigade
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

THE probability of Big Ted
Il 1saacson's 253 pounds falling
on him gave wings to little Maury
Van Vliet, 150-pound Oregon
back field ace. And Maury used
those wings to good advantage,
for his team beat Teds Washing
ton squad in their annual battle
at Seattle.
Maury is shown getting away
from the King Kong tackle, No.
So, on an end run. He was run
ming for his life!
COLLEGE SCORES THURSDAY
South Carolina, Z; Clemson. 0.
Oglethorpe, 10; Stetson, g.
Am A6HgTstan0a Crock Island ND 6; St
st. Edwards, 81; Daniel Baker 0.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

EVANSTON, ILL.,, Oct. 20.-Coach
Dick Hanley expects Northwestern's
new pass attack, developed in prac-
tice this week. to score the Wild
cats first points against Indiana to-
morrow. The Wildcats were held
scoreless in the first two games with
Iowa and Stanford.
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City Football Notes

Holy Trinity will hold skull practice to.
night at the clubroom at 730. sigma
drill will follow al Warman and Tenth
streets. All players must attend.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

Wizard A. C. football team will practice
tonight in preparation for Sundays game
against Lawrence Independents. at the
Wizard athletic field A stronger offense
viii be stressed in q lengthy scrimmage in
tonights drill.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

Spades eleven will meet Brightwood at
RhodiuS field at 2:30 Sunday afternoon.
Last Sunday the Spades defeated the In
dianapolis Cubs in an Em-Roe City League
contest, 20 to g. Messick starred on the
defense and MacIntire made some long
gains to account for two touchdowns.
Bowman and Windhorst booted the ball
over the cross bar for extra points.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

Irvington Trojans want game for
Sunday, to be played at old Butler field
Call II. 1929, ask for Dick.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

Riverside Olympics will practice at tbs
tonight at the club and Coach Walter
Floyd will pick the twenty-five men who
will make the trip to Muncie Sunday. The
squad will leave the club by bus at 1890
a. m. Sunday.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

Arsenal Bulldogs swamped Woods
eleven so to 0. Wednesday. Day De
Haven and Billman starred for the
winners
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Indiana Line Shifted for
Tussle With Northwestern

team with Bob Jones, erstwhile full
back. giving the Hoosiers a pair of
swift 200-pounders in the center
trio. Jack Sprauer has regained bis
center assignment from Reed KelSo,
the 200-pound sophomore.
With the three sophomoreS, E.
Antonini. Schilawski and Phipps,
and the veteran Lyons all perform
ing in top style at the wings, Bruno
Vercuski has been shifted from end
to tackle, where he is showing to
fine advantage. Pete Beeson, also
big and speedy, has won the other
Job. leaving Reneger and Zoll, erst-
while regulars. as reserves.
Ray Dauer again will call signals
and Hayes indicated he would start
Sawicki and Sutherland at half
back, Adolph Sabik, the best paSser
on the squad, or 160-pound jess
Babb will start at full back Soph-
omore Bob Keck also is available
for this post.
Don Weller. Wendell Walker and
Vernon Huffman. chief ground
gamers and scoring threats who
have had little practice this week
due to injuries, also made the trip
and are certain to see some action
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

By United Press
CHICAGO, Oct. 2O.-Chicago is
all ready for Purdue, Coach Clark
Shaughnessy said today. After a
week of intensive offensive drills.
the MaroonS checked over the de-
fensive assignments yesterday.
Murritt Bush, 22O-pound tackle,
has recovered fully from an ankle
injury and will start his first game.
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shown this season. Building up the
aerial attack has occupied the at.
tentlon of Coach Noble Kizer anc
his aids this week.
AS part of this move, Frank Haas
rangy wingman, has displaced En-
NETT LoWery at left end because OF
his ability as a pass catcher. Two
other line changes will see Eo
Skoronski, sophomore, at center.
and George Dennis, another rookie,
at guard. Carl Heldt may start at
left tackle in place of Captain
Dutch Fehring, injured in Mime
sofa.
Due to the mystery surrounding
Chicagos offense which has rolled
up seventy-two points in two gares.
Purdue coaches have been working
on the theory that the best defense
will be a better offense.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-10-20

Phillips SIS eleven will practice tonight
at 7:S0. game is wanted for Sunday
notice. Call Ii. $3.50 during ne day and
ask for Dan.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-03-23

TAC REYNOLDS will
a Fribay night and the with
wrestling bout at the Koln the gappler
rule placed in the Michigan
the beEkered
finally banned the whsker hold the
srangle hold
speedy compelled to resort to
wkekS In that
orr take out hunting license before
INo LEVNSY the Chicago fish peddler
IN OF beak buster
scholarly ability
cago pol ice were rounding people who
The asked him his he them
Jewish Last Levnsky happened
eclipse Through smoked glasses
Kngh and he looked long phenomenon Then
handing back the glasses he said with bad
~ N "N'
Babe Ruh $4,000 salary this will SAL 900
after he federal and state up there where
the e1eS heavy. 80
Last SUNDAY with perfect Yankees minus Ruth navd
the Boston Braves in St Petersburg
aoe pu pn stayed away Perhaps the
he ugger wednesday at figure above Ruppert original offer
Connie Mack Jr is candidate pitching staff at
Duke university and his
mound urr1e the lads dad Young Mack 6 inches
Walter johnson passed the chance purchase the JERSEY Civ
club on the advice of Clark
mao TO s $4,000 note payable and
oaseoaH prospects are anything but Skeeerown
The New York Giants may operate on hard
can taken IN at the for
are ueo up n the Hartman bank
Charges against an Official The Giants reported ggled
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-03-23

YVES TERRELL, Clevelands sensational young pitcher
who has 81 games in his four years big
Lacquer offered from $4,000 to $4,000 this year.
He baked and bonus system agreed upon. Terrell
signed for $4,000 If he wins 20 games he gets $4,000
If he wins twenty-five games he receives $4,000.
Terrell is player who has wholesome respect for the
dollar He has been hard to do business with since
entering the majors. He also fellow with temperament
His quarrels with Manager Pecknpaugh his public
ment that Joe Mccarthy the best in the majors
and his walking the box unbdden have been widely
publicized.
Terrell will twenty-five badly He always has
wanted customers Cleveland who lost faith
in him the pitcher Cleveland has
Manager will him pitch against the formidable teams
Just much in
basebas worst evils
feeling each player with
frequently
and manager.
pitcher Uhe signed Cleveland contract
the nfeders blow upon occasions
and these seemed to cost big George money
this Uhe looks that nheder with a
hshy
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-03-23
Cathedral Opens National
Basket Title Action TODAY

played Wednesday night, and eleven
on tap today, two contests Friday
morning will wind up the first
round.
st. Patrick'S opened the tourney
wednesday with 80 to % victory
over Gibault high of Vincennes,
4nolana title runner-up.
st. Xavier of Louisville, former
holder OF the title, served notice
mat 1t will be a strong contender by
overwhelming st. Thomas Military
academy of st. Paul. % to IA. st.
MaryS OF Huntington, Ind, moved
INTO the second round, defeating st.
Joseph of Cairo, Ill, II to IL.
-Four more Hoosier quintets, in
Guiding Cathedral of Indianapolis
state champion, open action today
Jasper academy met st. Bonaven-
ture of Sturtevant, Wis, at IL a. m
today and Reitz Memorial of Evans
vile tackled Routt of Jacksonville
Ill, at / D. m.
Cathedral opened action against
Our Lady of Victory academy.
Lackawanna, N. Y, at 3 D. m. In
the final night tilt. Central Catho-
Tic OF Fit. Wayne faced St. Francis
Xavier of Green Bay. Wis. at 9.
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Independent and Amateur
Baseball Notes, Gossip

j. w. Bader Indians will practice at
Riverside diamond No. at 2:30 p. m.
Saturday. Following players are. requested
to be present and any one wishing to try
out; David, Eader. Turk, Cline. Williams,
Perciheld, Newgent Brown. Long, Grill
Anderson. Charles Anderson, Orvis, G.
Woodrum, Taylor Hutzell Good. Forster,
Reed. Massey Johnson. Henderson. Cox,
Sheets Gale, Carey, Stokes. Hellmer, John
Lauer Brothers. Marsh. Nelson, McKim'
Perede.
with fast state teams. Frank fort,
Loogootee. Shoals. French Lick and West
Baden. Notice; For games write the j..
w. Bader Athletic Association. 28l8 North
Capitol avenue.
At recent meeting of the baseball COM
mittee of St PatrickSs Holy Name Society,
it was decided to organize two baseball
teams to represent the society;
coached by Eugene lefty Morrison, will
be entered in the Municipal League The
other team. under the direction of Carl
olic League. The age limit on players in
years.
A meeting of all players interested in
playing on these teams is called for Fri
day at 8:15 p. m. in st. Patrick's hall
946 Prospect street.
Weather permitting, a work out will be
held at Pennsy park
ANY strong team desiring the services Of
a left-handed pitcher. write oil. call at 535
North Beviue avenue, or call CHERRY
3591-W, ask for Marion wilson
The Ruralton A. c.s will hold meet
ing Friday. March "a at j. Theriacs house,
30o1 East Washington street. at 8 D. m.
All players and tryouts please attend J..
Moore and Schalbert take notice, The A.
Shelbyville. Greenfield, Columbus and other
state mines. Address v. Hey. $50 North
Tacoma avenue
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1933-03-23
Ross Hammers PetrOlle to
Cain Chance at Ring Title

proved his right to a chance at the
lightweight crown by decisively out
smarting and outboxing Billy Pc
trolle, the derailed Fargo Express
Ross won by a wide margin in ten
rounds before some $4,000 specta-
tors at the Chicago stadium.
In nine out of ten rounds, Ross
beat Petrolle to the punch. Not once
did he let Billy get set to throw
those vicious left hooks. When
Petrolle wanted to punch Ross kept
him off with rapid, singing left
jabS. When Petrolle stood off and
waited for an opening, Barney
stepped in with round house rights
and let's swinging to Billy's battle
worn features.
Petrolle couldn't keep up with
Ross, although Barney's punches
didn't seem to bother Petrolle much
at any time
Ross weighed 1876 pounds; Petrolle
scaled 1874, and in justice 20 Billy,
it might be mentioned that he prob
ably lost a little effectiveness cult
ing his weight to that figure.