Evening star., 1933-02-04
Text of Barry's Examination

ing. You say now that you think that
1t Is because Of the votes for that
amendment cast by demagogues that
they were enabled to pass It? II that
be true, does 1t not follow that those
who secured the passage Of the amend
ment were. in your judgment. dema-
gagues?
Sergeant at Aims Barry. That de-
pends. That seems to be your judgment,
sir. have not said that.
Mr.. Norris. Yes, that would be my
judgment II made the statement you
have made.
Sergeant at Arms Barry. I have not
stated it.
Mr.. Norris, What have you got to say
about classifying those who favored
those amendments as demagogues?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. I have not
anything to say, sir
Mr.. Norris. Dou you not think this
language clasSifieS them as demagogues?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. It depends
upon how it is read, how people read 1t
as 1t is written there, but have not any
further classification to make.
Mr.. Norris. Do you think that the
members of the Legislatures Of the va
rious States that approved those amend
ments were demagogues also?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. Well, have
not any means of knowing, and I was
not writing about the members Of those
Legislatures. was writing about what
passes here.
Mr.. Norris. It is your opinion, as ]
understand, and you so stated here, that
that Is what passed the constitutional
amendment providing for the popular
election of Senators. It Is stated just
above that there are many demagogues,
and that that is the reason those con-
Stitutional amendments were passed.
Is that your idea?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. Well, ]
think that is my idea: yes think the
people SO understand it, There are a
certain number OF demagogues and a
certain number of demagogic votes that
were cast for it.
Mr.. Barkley. Mr.. President, should
like to ask Mr.. Barry one question, If
may be permitted.
A while ago, Mr.. Barry, In response to
question OF mine, you stated that this
article appeared earlier than you had
expected it to appear In the magazine.
Am to understand by that that your
real intention was to have this article
appear after your term Of Office expires,
so that the Senate would have no juris-
diction over you?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. Not at all
I expected 1t to be printed this month
but did expect to receive the proof OF
it. and I did not know what date it
would be printed. I knew it would be
printed in the month of February.
Mr., Barkley. Did 1 understand you
to say while ago that you actually
wrote this article physically, yourself?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. Yes. sir;
did not say so, but I did write it.
Mr.. Barkley. Nobody else wrote II
and used your name?
Sergeant at Arms Barry No. sir
Mr.. Barkley. 1t is your production?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. Yes, sir.
Mr. Blaine obtained the floor.
Mr.. Walsh Of Montana. Mr.. Presi-
dent, will the Senator from Wisconsin
yield to me to ask question.
Mr.. Blaine. yield.
Mr.. Walsh OF Montana. Mr.. Barry
the article says that these Senators and
Representatives who have been guilty
of bribery are we'll known, but under
who they are?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. I did no'
mean to say in the article that any
so generally known that they would
be known by their colleagues and by
everybody in Washington.
Mr.. Walsh of Montana. But you dc
not know who they are?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. do not.
Mr.. Walsh Of Montana. Can you tel
us any any one who does know who
they are?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. No, sir.
Mr.. Walsh of Montana. How coulc
you say then, that they are we'll known
if you do not know of anybody who
knows them?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. That wa.
just general statement. 1t was made
carelessly and thoughtlessly, and, say
might have been changed.
Mr.. La Toilette Mr. President
The President pro tempore. Does the
junior Senator from Wisconsin yield
to his colleague?
Mr.. Blaine. I yield for the purpose
OF permitting my colleague to ask Mr.
Barry question.
Mr.. La Toilette. Mr. Barry, who frs,
approached you about this article for
the New outlook?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. The man
that owns the magazine.
Approached by Tichenor.
Mr. La Toilette. I cannot hear you
Sergeant at Arms Barry. Mr.. Tiche-
nor. the man that owns the magazine
Mr.. La Toilette Did he interview you
personally, or address you a letter?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. have for.
gotten. He did both, but which was
first. do not just remember. I think
he saw me before he wrote me, but
am not sure about that, Senator
Mr.. La Toilette. When you discussed
the subject matter of the article?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. No, sir
not this part of it. anyhow. I might
have gone over it in general way. but
this subject matter was not discussed
with him or any one else.
Mr.. La Toilette. Was the title of the
article discussed at that interview?
Sergeant at Arms Barry. No sir
Mr.. La Toilette. Was the subject
r1ctter Of this article, or anything re.
lating to it. suggested in the CORE.
spondence which you had with the gen.
tleman subsequent to your interview
with him?
ou66CoVCA Ny AAA1i, you AiCo1l, w
Mr.. La Toilette. Yes.
Sergeant at Arms Barry. No. sir; II
was not.
Mr.. La Toilette. Then it was entirel,
your own idea, and was not suggested
to you by the owner of the magazine
the publisher. or by anyone else con.
nected with it, or by any other person
that you should write this article which
now has appeared in the publication:
Sergeant at Arms Barry. Yes, sir.
Mr.. La Toilette. I did not hear tn,
response.
Sergeant at Arms Barry. said yes
meaning that it was not suggested b.
anybody by him, or anyone else.
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Mr.. Watson. Mr.. President, I wen
to MIR. Barry moment ago, on m,
own personal responsibility, and asket
him If he wanted to say anything fur
ther or if he had anything further tt
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