Evening star., 1933-11-02
LABOR IS EXPECTED
TO DEMAND SHARE
|NNEW Mr.. .A.PLAN
Johnson Supports SWope'S
Proposal for Industry to
Discipline Itself.
WORKER PARTICIPATION
NOT YET MENTIONED
Author Of Idea Says He Does Not
Intend to Scrap Present
Effort.
BY the Associated Press.
Business sought today to foreStall 0b'

BUSINESS S0ugUC lOudy w lUltoIdI wv
jections which labor might have to
new plan for following temporary N r.
A. with a permanent set-up under which
industry would govern its own affairs
through single unit and with min
imum of Federal supervision.
The idea behind the plan had the
support of Hugh johnson, recovery ad-
ministrator, who told newspaper men:
It's kind of goal to shoot at II
we can reach it,
But the proposal, advanced by Gerard
Swope in meeting with some OF the
Nations leading industrialiStS and then
referred to committee for study, made
no reference to labor representation in
the unit, which would govern all busl-
ness and industry through codes.
Labor, under the NJ R. A., has OBJ
tanned representation on many boards
and councils, and even an indirect voice
in the boards administering the present
codes. The recent American Federation
of Labor convention voted to seek
greater representation.
Action at Present Doubted.
Meanwhile Louis Kirkstein, Boston
merchant, today was elected chairman
of N. R. AS industrial advisory board,
succeeding Walter c. Teagle Of the
Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey, retiring
from the board.
Kirkstein, an executive of the Filene
Co., has been with the advisory board
for some time and has been especially
active on the National Labor Board in
the settlement of strikes and disputes.
Labor advisers at the N. R. A. made
clear they do not expect Swope's plan
for full self-government for industry to
be put into effect at any time in the
near future.
The administration, they contend, will
not relax the close Government super
vision now instituted over codified in
dustries for long time.
Green May Demand Place.
William Green, president of the labor
federation, was reported out of the city
as Swope explained the plan, but some Of
his friends said he was very likely to
insist upon worker participation in the
proposed new set-up.
Swope's proposal, briefly, would merge
into an enlarged National Chamber OF
Commerce all the trade associations for
industries now operating under codes
A board of appeals would act as supreme
arbiter. The Government would be rep
resented on this board through presi-
dental appointees; labor not at all.
unless one of the presidential appointees,
whom johnson said would have absolute
veto power, were worker representa-
tive.
Foreseeing that there might be labor
objections. SWope said in a statement
There is nothing in my proposal in
tended to supplant N. r. A. or to set
up any industrial self-discipline without
governmental participation, or to omit
the organization of labor, parallel with
the organization Of industry"
Urges Self Discipline.
What I proposed was my personal
idea of a goal for ultimate attainment.
1t Is built on the thought that indus
trial organization is necessary to indus
trial self-discipline and that, I take it,
IS intrinsic in the industrial recovery
act.
There is no difference Of opinion
between the Recovery Administration
and myself and my temporary relief by
another industrialist on the Advisory
Board does not separate me from the
N. R. A. I am still on the Labor Board
times available to the administrator
Despite big gains since N. R. A., labor
leaders say they are having difficulty
organizing as rapidly as industry.
The membership of the American
Federation Of Labor has risen from
slightly more than 100000 to above
1000, 900. Yet A F. of L. spokesmer1
point out they officially represent
only about one-siyth Of the Nations
25.000,000 workers. whereas each trade
associat ton is supposed to represent
more than half its industry.
johnson, in giving his general in
dorsement to the SWope proposal. re-
marked that greater labor organization
would be needed to obtain equal
strength between the employe and en-
ployer and then added:
Il think business eventually will help
labor to attain that strength"
Opposes Mere Bureaucracy.
Henry l. Hartman, president of the
Chamber of Commerce of the United
States, was responsible for the industri-
alists referring the Swope plan to
committee instead of acting upon it
Immediately. He remarked:
"The N. r. A. will be a failure If
1t becomes simply Government
bureaucracy. This is an endeavor to
give it the full support of at least one
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