Evening star., 1933-03-19
Statesmen Talk
Frankly on
Questions.
AGREE BIG FOUR
CAN AVERT WAR
Need for Haste Is
Stressed by British
Prime Minister.
Nv the Associated Press.

BY the ASSOClhteo 1AeoS.
ROME, March 18.-At a discus
sion lasting nearly an hour ana
three-ouarters Prime Minister
Ramsay Macdonald OF Great
Britain and Premier Mussolini to-
day dug deep, officials said, into
the sore spots of the European po-
litical situation in an effort to heal
them permanently.
The two premiers, meeting Tor
the first time in their lives, talked
intensively about the whole Euro
peon situation, including the ques-
ton Of disarmament. They made
their beginning on the basis OF Mr..
MacDonald's statement, issued
when he arrived at Ostia by air
plane, that "peace must be organ
lied quickly if it is to be organized
at ALL" The meeting took place
at Venezia Palace.
Mr.. Macdonald, it was said, touched
without kid gloves on such delicate
points as Italy's relations with France
and Yugoslavia and Premier Mussolmfs
intentions in regard to Chancellor Adolf
Hitler of Germany, head OF another
great Fascist government.
Strenuous Efforts Urged.
Tho British prime minister urgeo
sienor Mussolini, 1t was understood, to
use every effort to lessen tension be-
tween italy and France and to utilize
his influence over Chancellor Hitler 70
prevent outbreaks in Germany.
The Italian premier reamIneA tne
viewpoint that the peace Of Europe can
be stabilized only through co-operauon
among the four big powers, England
France, italy and Germany.
At the conclusion Of their meeting
the two premiers hastened TO oress ios
= dinner Of 200 covers given IN the
royal han Of Venezia Palace. They Will
meet again tomorrow afternoon.
Mr., Macdonald was accompanied 10
Rome by his foreign secretary, Sir John
Simon. who sat in on the discussion
with Premier Mussolini and by MS
daughter 1shbel.
Flies From Genoa to Ostta.
They came here from Geneva, going
by train to Genoa, where they were met
bv Cen. Italo Balbo, the Italian air
minister. who new them to OStia. Tnere
they were greeted by Signor Musso!ini,
who stretched out both hands to MI.
Macdonald and said in English, I am
Rald to welcome you."
The British prime minister explained
his mission In Rome thus:
"It is to exchange views with 1talys
famous chief on intricate problems con-
cerned with the organization OF peace
that am here, and have come WIN
much confidence as to the effect OF my
visit. .,.,
Il am impressed with the difnculties
confronting us, but believe that Win
vigorous cooperation, especially among
the great nations of the world, we snaH
find q way out Of 'our dimculty, potn
political and economic, and shall make
the world a safe and pleasant place 1or
this and future generations.
I'VE have no time to waste, however.
Invitation Timely.
"My visit to Geneva and my contacts
there with representatives Of countries
in ali parts Of the world have impressed
me more than ever with the gravity OF
the problems which confront us.
"Sir John Simon and welcome TINS
opportunity for preliminary exchange
OF views regarding these problems with
Signor Mussolini. His invitation came
at timely moment and We were de-
lighted to accept"
Tomorrow the Macdonald party Mn
he entertained at luncheon by the hng
and Queen and the prime minister and
foreign secretary will have an audience
with the Pope.
Members Of the cabinet and the EN-.
bassy staff, Gugnelmo Marconi. and
many other prominent persons attended
the dinner tonight. There were no
speeches, but the functions ended with
q toast by Premier Mussolini to the
British sovereign and people and an
other by Prime Minister Macdonald to
the Italian rulers and people.