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Thaelman Reports
On the 18th Plenum
Communist Party Ends
Conference inGermany
Gable by Inprecorrl

BERLIN, Oct. 2o.-The Conference
Of the German Communist Party has
lust ended. The resolution presented
BY the Central Committee on the de-
cisions of the recent twelfth Plenum
of the Communist International was
adopted unanimously after a speech
by Comrade Ernst Thaelman.
The conference also unanimously
condemned Heinz Neumann and
others who have persisted in their
political errors and have attempted to
interfere with the development of an
intensif ed proletarian mass policy.
Unanimous approval was given the
stern action taken by the Commu-
mist Party Of the Soviet Union against
the counter-revolution Riutin
group and its supporters, Kamenev,
zinoviev, Uglanov and the rest.
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and who could not get IN were turned
away. The Ford meeting and par
ade smashed through the police ter
ror here which has previously broken
up many workers meetings.
Answer to Simmons.
The meeting was much larger than
that for the Hoover campaign COM
mitteemen. also Negro, Roscoe
Conklins Simmons who spoke here
last week and told how he led a
delegation of 100 to Hoover some
days before that, and begged Hoover
to give us one word" because Ne
groes are beginning to say the Re-
publican Party supports the Jim
Grow and lynch law system. And,
according to Conklin, Hoover said:
Negroes and whites are equal before
the law" With this, Simmons asked
the Negroes who see by the Scott
boro case and thousands of lynchers
fires that they are not equal before
capitalist law, to be satisfied and and
vote for Hoover.
Ford took up Hoover's Cleveland
speech, and showed how it contains
not even promises for the unemployed
and wage cut workers. Hoovers sol
ution of the problem of 100000
hungry unemployed is for all other
workers to go on part time, and
without any expense to the employ
ers give the jobless day or two to
work each week.
But, Ford pointed out, in Gary only
one blast furnace out of II is oper-
ating at all and throughout the
steel industry is the same. Production
hovers around 20 per cent Of the nor
NAL.
United Action.
He put forward the Communist
program of unemployment insurance
at the expense of the employers and
their government: he called for uni
ted front committees of action by
jobless and by workers in the shops,
fighting for relief and against wage
cuts. He urged mass Import for the
national hunger march on Washing
ton in December.
Local candidates Of the Commu-
mist Party told how they led delega-
lions of the jobless to protest to the
county commissioners against the
cutting by 20 to so per cent Of the
relief which wa only $40 month per
family to start with.
One Days Work Ends Relief.
The county commissioners made
promises and broke them. They also
refused to give part time workers who
get only one days work month any
relief at all.
Among the local Communist candi-
dates speaking were Ernest Wilken-
ing, for State Senator; John Nelson,
for county commissioner; and Lyria
Oxen for state representative.
Dave Mates section organizer OF
the Communist Party here was the
chairman, and Keg Mails spoke for
the Young Communist League.
sd
VOTE 1nNnFrrATuGr
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NEWS FLASH

PARIS, Oct. 19.-The Fourth
Congress of the French Section OF
the International Red Aid the i.
L. d. greeted Louis Engdahl with
the singing of the international.
After hearing Comrade Engdahfs
speech the Congress pledged itself
TO intensity the campaign for the
release Of the Scottsboro boys and
Mooney and Billings
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GARY, Ind, Oct. 20.-Work-
ers paraded Gary streets for
the first time to a Communist
election rally yesterday. Led by
the Universal Negro Improve
ment Association Band, Negro
and white steel workers in
their old cars made a great
procession to the station to welcome
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ORGRANEZE DRESS JOBLESS COUNCIL
Demand No Relief Job Discrimination

without discrimination against union
or non-union members. and points
out that David Dubinsky. of the l. l..
G.. w. u, and Jacob Potofsky, Of the
A. G. w. plan to exploit this emer-
gency garment plan to strengthen
their own bureaucracies.
The wages to be demanded for the
work will be decided on at joint meet
ings of the needle trades unemployed
workers.
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3 FREED in LOGAN
CIRCLE FRAME-UP
Big Victory for LID.
and Mass Protests

WASHINGTON. D. c., Oct. 90
Dismissal of charges against three Of
the six Negro youths on trial in
Washington charged with murder be-
cause they defended themselves
against brutal police attack, was
won by the international Labor De-
Tense and associated lawyers this
morning. The three who we're freed
are Harry Duyall, Louis Murray, and
Leroy Robinson. Three others are
still on trial, they are; Joseph jack
son, Ralph Holmes and Irwin Murray.
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Worker in an exclusive inter
view yesterday. Georgia Mig
ger" has created a sensation
because of its expose Of the barbar-
Gus chain gang system which the
southern white ruling class uses to
keep the workers and share-cropping
farmers, especially the Negroes, in
submission.
Spivak, who has been a newspaper
man and magazine writer for Is
years; three years ago exposed
the Whalen anti-Soviet forgeries, for
which he was later called before the
notorious Fish Commission. He went
down South two years in succession
CONTINUED ON PAGE THREE)
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thousands OF
starving vets.
Roosevelt said
n o t a wor d
about the bru-
tai expulsion
of the bonus
marchers from
WASH n g t on
with guns and
tear gas, thus
by his silence
indicating that
on this too he
is in complete
n o,-aopoont with
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CAPITALISTS GET REC. MONEY

WASHINGTON, d. c., Oct. 20
The quarterly report of the Recon-
struction Finance Corporation to
Congress, which was made public to-
day, revealed that out Of the 8,235
loans authorized by the R. F. c..
during the three months ending in
September, 3109 are loans to business
concerns, the total aggregating $685.
k99 446.
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Ford, then
through t h e
streets.
Ford spoke
over the radio
station WJKS
at 4;45 p. m,
and then to
1000 workers,
so per cent
Negroes, at La
Dor Hall, while
apofber tbOIlS-
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e Hoover government 100

per cent and declared his I'M
alterable opposition to the pay
ment before 1916 of a single
cent of the $2,3OO,OOO,OOO due the
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THREE FISHERMEN DROWN

BOSTON, Mass. Oct. 20.-Three
fishermen we're blown on the rocks
and drowned yesterday near James
town, r. L, during a storm which
has ragged along the New England
coast for two days with undated
fury.
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NEW PRISON OUTBREAK

KINGSTON, Ont, Oct. 2O.-A new
outbreak occurred in the Portsmouth
Prison, the prisoners continuing to
voice their demands for more food
and shorter work hours. 1t is re-
ported that the prisoners gained con-
troll of the power plant.
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In the DAYS
NeGvS
11O HOSPITALS CLOSE

One hundred and ten private hos
pitfalls were closed during the past
year, according to a report made
public today by Newton D, Baker,
head of Hoover's relief committee. :"
The committee. however, did not Of
fer any suggestion for relieving the
situation. The report merely con-
cluded with the statement that many
more hospitals have threatened to
close.
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ROOSEVELT BACKS HOOVER
POLICY, FIGHTS PAYMENT
OF BONUS TO VETERANS
Tells Vets to Starye Till 1915; Supports Huge
Loans to Banks, Railroads
Republicans, Democrats Socialists Join Hands;
Only c. P Fights for Immediate Payment
PITTSBURGH, Oct. 20

PITTSBURGH, Oct. 20.-After lodging the issue for
months Gov Roosevelt has out fatfoOedy against
bonus In an opena speech here last night Forbes
Field the democratic presidential candidate finally forced to
take stand backed the policy of the Hoover 100
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Writer Exposes Chain
Gang Tortures; Negroes
Kidnapped, MadePeons
Sold for $40, Says Georgia Niger" Author
in Interview With Daily Worker
Novel, Backed By Documents, Photos Brings
Startling Proof of Black Belt Slavery

duced their price.
John L. Spivak author of the book Georgia Niger"
snapped out this statement to representative Of the Daily
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THOUSANDS OF NEGRO AND WHITE
WORKERS in STEEL CITY OF GARY
PARADE STREETS; WELCOME FORD

Center but Huge OutpOug Too Much for Cops to At
Meeting Republican Chief Simmons
Sagger Plan City Where One Furnace Out Of
II Is Workings Calls for United Fight for Jobess Relief
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VOTE COMMUNIST
Equal rights for the Negroes and
self-determination in the Black
Belt.
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HEAVY RAINS FLOOD HON
DURAN CITY

TEGUGIGALPA, Honduras, Oct.
19.-Heavy rains which fell without
let up for five days last week dis
continued telephone or telegram
communications to and from the
city.
The Rio Grande River, dividing the
twin cities of Tegugigalpa and Co.
mayaguela, flooded the waterfront
districts of both cities, causing heavy
damage to property,
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SOME ENGRAvERs TO LOSE JOB,

NEW YORK.-An electrical ma
chine that makes half-tone cuts like
those used in newspapers in a few
minutes without the use of acid and
the plates for printing three-color
pictures in half an hour instead OF
SO hours, as now required, is shown
at the Engineering Auditorium The
cost is also cut.
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STOCKS FALL AGAIN

NEW YORK.-The New York stock
market fluctuated and finally fell
two points yesterday. Brokers had
announced that Roosevelt's speech
against the veterans bonus would
raise the price of stocks.
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procession to the station to v
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VOTE COMMUNIST FOR.

l. Equal rights for the Negroes and self
determination for the Black Belt.
S. Against capitalist terror; against all
forms of suppression of the political
rights Of workers.
s. Against iAperialist war; Tor the de-
tense of the Chinese people and Of
the Soviet Union.
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"She loves me. What else mat
ters?" he pleaded. 1--WE were sweet
hearts, oh, so many years ago in
Russia. Don't take her from me
now"
Punctuating his recital of the
facts with repeated pleas that his
wish be granted, WolinSki told the
story of his and his wifes years of
devotion to each other.
Helen, the wife, is a few years
younger than her husband. Both
were born in Russia. AS children,
they were sweetheartS.
Wolinski came to America when
youth. He worked hard, became
a successful insurance and real
estate dealer, saved a stable for
tune.
But in his desire to make every
thing right for Helen before she
came here" he overworked. Blind
ness resulted.
Wollnski wrote to Helen, told her
what had happened She answered
that it made no difference. Thirty
three years ago, she came to Amer
lea. They were married.
For years they were happy. Helen
basked in her husbands devotion.
cared for him as she would for a
chlld. Wolinski beamed in the sat-
ls1actlon of having many servants
so that Helen would not have to
work SO hard" He hired a man to
lead him during business hours. :
Inc stock market crash of 1929
wiped out WolinSki'S fortune. All
that was left was a $4,000 trust
fund which he had set aside for
Helen.s
Inc wife, meanwhile, had become
Ill, her brother, William Ross. filed
petition, and had her adjudged
mentally incompetent. A conservator
was appointed for the trust fund
Ross attorney moved to have Mrs
Wolinski taken from her husband
and sent to an institution.
Judge Taylor, presiding in place
OF Governor-elect Henry Homer
heard the old mans story.
He ordered $3.50 of the money
from the trust fund paid monthly to
Wolinski and his wife. and that they
be allowed to remain together, so
long as they shall live"
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By United Press
BURLINGTON, Wis, Dec. 81
This was the liars capital of Amer
lea today as judges met to make
the annual New Years selection Of
the country's champion.
In the hands of three men rested
the responsibility of picking the big
geSt lie out of 1900 entries submit
ted by would-be Baron Munchau-
sens.
They are w. w. Schenning, 4 To-
cal policeman; Manuel Hahn, Chi
cago, and o. ). Hulett, Burlington
business man.
Their task is to choose a success
sor to o. w. Butts, Bay City, Mich,
who reigned as king of the liars
during 1882.
The choice, 1t was rumored, al
read has been made. but the judges
awaited New Years eve for the ira
oitional announcement.
Never before. they reported, had
so many ingenious and incredible
stories been submitted in the hope
that the inventor might be named
as the biggest story teller of them
all. Fish stories galore were en-
tered as well as weird tales from
far-off and non-existent countries
Buriington's greatest liars con-
test began back in 1929. Captain
Anton Delano recited a fish sorry so
unlikely and marvellous that his au-
ditors had a medal struck off bear
ing the legend, Champion Liar.
|US S..
ss s,s,.ss Of the award spread In
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AGED PATRIOT
IS DEAD HERE
Harry J. Barker, 80, Served
in Union Forces During
Civil War.

Harry j. Barker, 83, who almost
seventy years ago ran away from
home to join the union forces in
the Civil war, died Friday in his
home, 5207 North Capitol avenue.
He had ben ill two days with pneu-
monia, and had been in failing
health since last March.
He was cashier of the Indiana
Soldiers and Sailors monument I'M
til two years ago when he retired.
He had been i'll two days with pneu-
five years ago.
Born in Cincinnati, o., in 1849,
he enlisted from New Albany in
Company B, 38th Indiana volun-
teers, in 1868. He was with Sher-
man on his famous march to the
sea" and continued in the service
until the close of the war.
He went to GAINESVILLE, o., after
the war, and was employed as a
printer on the newspapers there for
thirty years. He was member of
the International Typographical
Union in GAINESVILLE.
He was the youngest member of
George H. Thomas post, G. A. r.,
and belonger to Broadway M. E.
church.
Funeral services will be held at
1890 Monday in the home. The
G. A. r. and the Rev. Richard Mil
lard, pastor of Broadway church,
will be in charge. Burial will be in
Crown Hill cemetery.
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Toll TO Create
HYBRID APE AS
MISSING LINK
Russian Scientists Are in
Isolation, Striving to
Reach Success.
By United Press

By United Press
ATLANTIC CITY, N. j., Dec. 81
In the little known interior Of Tur-
kestan in distant Asia a Russian
scientist is endeavoring to create a
hybrid of ape and man for scien-
tific study of mans evolution.
Details of the project were re-
vealed Friday by DR.. Howell S. Eng
land of the Michigan Academy of
Sciences, Arts and Letters in an adj
dress to the American Association
for Advancement of Science, in con-
vention here.
The experimenting scientist, he
said, is DR.. Ellie Ivanoff of Moscow,
who, with his brother and another
scientist, took nine female CHM
panzees into Turkestan year ago,
their project being financed by the
Russian government.
There can be no doubt in the
mind of any biologist" England
said, that the appearance of n.y.
birds, when produced, will in all
cases be as nearly standardized as
we see to be the case with the
mule and the cattle and other by
hrids.
I'm the event that one of the
hybrids may prove fertile-and at
least one of the scientists with
whom am in correspondence be-
lieves they will all be fertile in spite
of the operation of MendePs law
of heredity as applied to hybrids-
we shall be able, in the course of
time, to produce complete chain
Of specimens from the perfect an
thropoid to the perfect man."
DR.. England declared Ivanof has
cut himself off from communication
with friends among the biologists of
America and western Europe.
1T is evident" DR.. England said,
"that he is planning to surprise the
scientific world and the world at
large by producing for us one of
these days the first living hybrid
between man and the chimpanzee.
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STREET CARS RER0UTED
Minnesota Line Changed to Comply
With Works Board Order.

Pursuant to an order of the board
of works, Indianapolis Railways,
Inc, today announced a rerouting
of Minnesota street cars, effective
Sunday.
Inbound, the cars will travel on
Virginia avenue to Maryland street,
west on Maryland to Meridian,
north on Meridian to Washington
and east on Washington to Virginia
avenue.
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the county board of health.
After practicing in indianapolis
twelve years he went to Mt. Com
fort, and later to Greenfield. He
returned to this city in 1880, follow
ing the death of his wife. He lived
at the home of his daughter, Mrs.
Robert B. Drum, 574O Oak ave-
nue..
Funeral services will be held at
10 Monday in the daughters home.
The body will be taken to Shelby
vile for burial.
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Death CLAIMS
DR.. |. W. trees
Prominent Indiana PhySi-
clan Taken Here After
Long Illness.

DR.. Irwin w. Trees, 81, promi-
nent Indiana physician, who prac-
ticed in Shelby county twenty years,
and in Indianapolis twelve years,
died Friday in Robert w. Long
hospital. after two months illness.
DR.. Trees was born in Shelby
county. He received medical degrees
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Love, Blind, Finds Way
Aged Man, Sightless, Pleads Successfully to
Prevent Wreck of His Home
BY SAM KNOTT
United Press staff Correspondent

CHICAGO Dec 3An 83yar-old tapped his
Harry Tayors court and pleaded that he be allowed keep
who has cared for him during thrytee years
In voice that quvered with emotion Friday
OF his W1fes huness through of auence followed
parative poverty
Tears corsed from his ght whered cheeks
as he begged permission keep her
claims OF her relatives that she should
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LAY QUAKES TO
FORCES FROM
FAR PLANETS
Quarter Century Research
Leads to Theory of
Tremor Causes.
B rnited Press

b United Press
SANTA CLARA UNIVERSITY,
Gil, Dec. 3l.-Mysterious forces
Fl m worlds billions of miles dis
tat produce quakes on earth, data
a. embed at the Picard memorial
oil lervatory here indicate.
A quarter of a century of origi-
NIL research started by the late
Father Jerome Sixtus Ricard, noted
'I'adre of the Rains" and carried
on by his collaboration, Dr. Albert
J. Newlin, now director of the OBJ
se.yatory, definitely has established
a curious triangular phenomena ra-
tic nalized by astronomy, meteorology
ard seismology.
Theory Is Explained
Reduced to simplest terms, DIR.
Ncwlin explained, as follows:
Distant planets, in their charted
&C rises, swing into certain positions
of conjunction. Shortly thereafter
there is an earthquake. The earth's
crust has shifted along faults estab-
lished ages ago.
Whether science eventually will
reduce the theory that planetary
alignments cause earthquakes to an
understanding definite enough to
permit forecasts of impending quake
disasters is question still hidden in
a maze Of many complex sciences
and in mathematical calculations so
involved they are beyond normal
comprehension.
I'VE have recorded innumerable
instances of planetary conjunctions
being followed by earthquakes" Dr.
Newlin said.
Cites Recent Quake
The most recent was on Dec. 20,
when the entire west, from Salt
Lake City to the Pacific, felt dis
tinct shock.
The quake was along a fault line
extending from the vicinity of
Honey Lake and Smoke Creek
desert, near Reno, New, along the
line Of the Sierra Nevada mountain
range southerly to the owens Lake
district near Death Valley" Newlin
explained.
I'VE are still studying the rela-
ton between the quake and outside
influences. Calculations made thus
far show an alignment of planetary
bodies was in progress at the time
of the quake"
The same alignment apparently
was what "flattened" low-wave
radio signals Immediately prior to
the shock.
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DE-. 9. w. BARKER Leayes ]. U.

BLOOMINGTON. Ind, Dec. 81
Leave OF absence on account of ill
ness has been granted to Profess
sor G. w. Barker Of the Indiana
university school of commerce and
finance. He plans to 60 to Flor
ida. His place will be taken by
Professor Ira Anderson, Indiana
university graduate. now member
Of the faculty OF the University Of
North Dakota.
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from Butler uni
verSity, Cincinnati
u n " ersity and
Indiana univer-
sity.
He came to In
dianapolis after
two decades of
practice in Shell
byville and Shelby
county. He was
the delegate of
the Shelby Coun-
ty Medical Society
to the American
Medical ASsocia-
ton in 1888, and
served three terms
as secretary of
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FUMES PERIL FIREMEN
Escape SuffOcatiOn From Ammonia
Gas in Downtown Fire,

bWIIWNNNIUU EIVIII fNIIIIIIUIIId
Gas in Downtown Fire.
Several city firemen narrowly es-
capped sufTocation from ammonia
gas fumes today when fire caused
leak in a refrigeration plant on
the roof of City Trust Company
building.
The fire started when a torch
flame accidentally ignited con-
tainer of roof tarring material,
causing it to oYerturn. Chester
Mann, 3S, of 1924 East Forty-sixth
street, employe of a roofing COM
pany, at work with the substance,
escaped without burns. Damage
Was small.
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Rescue Mission

Rescue Mission
WHEELER RESCUE MISSION
WATCHNIGHT SERVICE SAT. EVENING
FROM 8 TO IL
DELEGATES FROM EVANGELIST1C
CONVENTION
Sunday-7:45 P. M.-Bob Ingersol OF
Saginaw, Mich
Monday-7:45 P. M.-Harry Lintz of the
Moody Bible Institute, Chicago.
Tuesday-7:45 P. M.-Charles Weigle of
Wednesday-7: P. M.-John s. Hamil-
ton of Winona Lake, Ind, will speak. Mr..
George Dibble of Bloomingdale. Mich, will
sing.
Thursday-7:45 P. M.-Miss Emma M.
Aloud from a Mission in New York City.
Friday-7:45 P. NM. and Mrs. L.
James Kindig.. singing evangelists will
have charge of music. Roy L. Brown of
Detroit will speak.
Saturday-7:45 P. M-Howard Williams
of Hattiesburg. Miss sneaker
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Judges Gather TO Name
Champion Liar of Z. S.

1880, Police Chief Frank Beller tried
his hand at spinning a yarn and
carried off the honor. Last year
entries came from many states, and
that Of Butts was selected as the
most unbelievable.
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Question Box Contest Winners

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