Evening star., 1932-08-24

bonds of this corporation at time
when the corporation was granted
$4,000 contract to furnish traffic light
standards on Fifth avenue. This, Sam
uel Seabury, counsel of the Hofstadter
Legislative Committee, has charged, is
in violation with the city charter and
is sufficient ground for removing the
mayor.
The mayors reply was that he did
not know he owned the bonds and that
the contract was awarded on a sealed
bid by the Police Department.
AT that time" Curtin asked, did
you or any one in your company know
that the mayor of New York owned any
of your bonds?'
I'VE had no record of who owned
our bonds" Rosenblum replied.
Tells of Bids.
Police Commissioner Edward P. Null
rooney was the next witness.
Mulrooney said six sealed bids on
the traffic light standards were sub
nitted.
The Reliance Bronze & Steel Co,
submitted two bids" Mulrooney said.
zone for erecting the standards and one
for gliding the figures on the tops OF
the standards. We let them have only
the contract to erect the standards.
The gliding We let to another COM
pany."
The next witness was Hector Fuller,
a member of Walkers Official Recep-
ton Committee. Fuller was a member
of the mayors party on the European
trip in 1927, for which was purchased
the $4,000 letter of credit by j. Allan
Smith. New York representative OF the
Equitable Coach Co., Inc.
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What, if anything, did you have to
do with pooling any funds for spending
money on that trip to Europe with the
mayor in 1922" Curtin asked.
Fuller said Rodman Wanamaker had
supplied money for the trip.
Shortly after that my friend. Sena-
tor Bernard Downing took me to lunch,
Fuller said, "and told me that several
of those in the party were getting up
a pool for unofficial expenses.
@. (By Curtin) Who managed that
fund during the trip abroad?
A. Barney Downing Senator Bernard
Downing.
O. (By Gov. Roosevelt) You say you
gave that money to Senator Downing
on the Berengaria-whatt time did you
sail?
A. We were scheduled to sail at mid
until am. But gave the money, in
cash. to Senator Downing at luncheon
on the ship the day before we sailed.
Seabury cross-examining Fuller, asked
him where he got the 81 1000 he paid
to Downing
1T was my monthly salary" Fuller
said.
Fuller said that at that time he was
employed by the American Car &
Foundry Co. at $1,000 month.
Was Given 100-Pound Note.
Fuller said he had no record of his
expenses on the trip. He said Rodman
Wanamaker, who financed the trip,
gave him as a present an English 100
pound note.
Fuller, now director of Public Re-
lations for Outdoor Advertising, Inc,
said he had had similar job at $4,000
a year with the Paramount Taxicab
Co. for about a year beginning in the
Summer of 1880.
In lieu of additional salary" Fuller
said, they made me a vice president
of Paramount Taxicab Co., but it didn't
mean anything"
do you know Senator Hastings?"
Seabury asked
Never met him" Fuller replied.
@. by Gov. Roosevelt)-When you
went aboard the Berengaria that night,
how much money did you have with
you?
A.-Two or three hundred dollars and
the 100-pound note Mr.. Wanamaker
had given me.
Conboy, the Governors special coun-
sci, Fuller said Downing had said
something about getting letter of
credit.
O. (By Conboy)-Whose name was
the letter of credit in?
Al knew nothing about the letter
of credit.
Had Pay Waiting.
Questioned by Gov. Roosevelt, Fuller
said he had several hundred dollars in
salary awaiting him when he returned.
Why didn't you use some of that to
pay that overdraft?" the Governor
asked.
Il had to pay some bills and had no
money left" Fuller replied.
Westall was the next witness
Roosevelt Immediately challenged the
relevancy of Westall'S appearance on
the stand.
Curtin had not asked question, but
had handed WeStall newspaper clip
ping.
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the story there is true"
What relation has that to this hear
ing?" the Governor asked.
In dealing with some charges" Cur
tin replied, you have said yourself that
in disposing of themSyou must always
look back to their source"
Didn't that rule. counsel. apply to
the entertaining of charges?" the Gov
ernor asked
Il wish you could tell me exactly
your purpose"
Il want to go to the genesis of this
Hofstadter Committee-the motives be-
hind it." Curtin replied.
What of It?" Governor Asks.
But suppose you do go to the
genesis and establish motives" the
Governor said, What of it? What rel
evancy has it in this case?"
I'm dealing here" the Governor
said, with charges. The motives are,
in my judgment, wholly irrelevant
The same is true as to the members
of the Legislature. 1t might have been
true, if any of these men had been
witnesses before the committee. Testi-
mony as to the motives of members of
the Legislature or others cannot be
received by me-
May I have just one thing on the
record" Curtin asked, that the man
who selected the counsel for the COM
mittee was none other than the Re-
publican State chairman"
No" the Governor replied, that can