Evening star., 1932-02-11
Clash Marks Hearing When
Secretary AssaiIs Hawes,
Cutting, Hare Measures.
REVOLUTION, HE SAYS,
WOULD BE RESULT
Refuses to Withdraw Word, and
Praises Courage of Measure
by King.
By the Associated Press.

BY the Associated Press.
A sharp verbal clash between Sec
retary of War Hurley and senatorial
advocates of Philippine independence
took place in a committee hearing to-
day when the Secretary referred to bills
before the Senate and House as
"cowardly."
The Secretary, his voice raised to
shout, applied the adjective to bills
sponsored by Senators Hawes, Demo-
crat, of Missouri, and Cutting, Re
publican, Of New Mexico, and Repre-
sentative Hare, Democrat, of South
Carolina.
Senator Halves, leaning forward to-
ward the speaker sought to stop him.
but Secretary Hurley refused asserting,
II am making this speech. You wait
until I finish
DO you mean to say" asked HaWeS,
''that Senator Cutting and I are
cowardly?"
Hurley replied that the bill has not
In it one element of courage"
1T attempts to tear down all that has
been built up in the Philippines over a
period of years, he added.
Wants Word to Stand.
Then you don't withdraw the word
cowardly?" Hawes inquired.
No. l don't" said Hurley. Il know
that Senator Cutting will understand
that I mean no personal ofense and
hope you understand it Also
He then reiterated the purpose of
the bill is for destroying" and that lit
is based absolutely on fear"
There is not line in the bill that
justifies that opinion" Hawes exclaimed.
Joining the heated argument, Senator
King Democrat, of Utah, who also has
introduced a bill for Philippine inde-
pendence. said to Hurley:
Il should be very sorry if you re-
manned as Secretary of War for an
indefinite period and the Philippines
should be under you"
Il believe I'm the best friend the
Philippines have" Hurley shot back.
Il am attempting to prevent organ
ized propaganda from keeping the Phil
ippines from becoming member OF the
family of Nations. I am fighting for
the existence of the Philippine Islands"
Hurley predicted chaos and revolu-
ton" would follow enactment of the
Hawes- Cutting bill, which provides COM
piete independence at future date.
IF you must grant independence,
he said grant it at once and let the
revolution that will follow be under
their flag, not ours"
Bill Called Courageous.
In answer to a question from Senator
King. Hurley said. your bill is courage
immediate independence without pre-
Iminary period
The interchange between Hurley and
the Senators came suddenly after he
had given an opening statement say
ing 1.-The political chaos of the Orient
today is such that in my opinion this
is no time to deal with Philippine in
dependence"
Hurley asked the committee whether
1t desired him to give the complete
statement which he presented to the
House Insular Committee yesterday.
King and Hawes replied it would not
be necessary, as the views of the Sec
retary on this question are well
known"
Hurley asked King to give his con-
ception of these views. The Utahan
replied he understood the Secretary
was not in favor of independence ex-
cept at some uncertain future time.
Then you are exactly 100 per cent
wrong" Hurley replied, raising his
voice
Are you for independence in five
years?" asked King.
mo, sir" shouted Hurley.
Ten years?"
mo, sir"
Not a Matter Of Years.
AS King continued asking. fifteen
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