Evening star., 1932-07-09
RELIEF B|LLPASSES
SENATE 43 TO 81
President Has Veto Message
Ready-Number of Demo-
Gratis Opposed.
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largely left to the discretion of the ad-
ministration.
The crux Of the controversy. Norbeck,
said, was found in the provision advo-
Gated by the House and Speaker Garner
in particular to permit Government
loans to private individuals Norbeck
said that originally proposal had been
made by Mr.. Hoover and the admin
istration that loans should be made to
private industries.
Senator Wagner, Democrat, of New
York took the same view and read
from message of the President propos-
ing loans. on certain conditions, to
private business. Senator Robinson
presented a similar line of argument.
He pointed out, however, that the bill
as it now stands goes further than the
Presidents proposal in that it author
izes loans ito any person"
Opposes House Provisions.
Declaring he was In accord with
Speaker Garner in his efforts to aid
all kinds Of people in the country
through Government loans, Senator
Norbeck said it was not possible ito
carry out the House provisions for such
loans"
"The House provision" he continued,
holds out false hopes. We all know
that it can't be done; that it is i'm
possible for the Federal Government to
set up banks and loan money in every
community in the country. The House
provision now in the bill holds out
something that looks good, but that is
not good"
Norbeck then moved for adoption of
the conference report
Senator Johnson, Republican, of Cali
fornia, said the most important duty
before Congress at present is to pass a
relief bill. He insisted that no one man
can dictate the terms of the measure
and said some of us may consider parts
of the relief bill uhsound."
1T i'll becomes us, the President or
any individual to stand in the way of
any measure which will in this time of
distress have some promise of relief to
those who require relief" Johnson
added
Places Onus on President.
Johnson also contended President
Hoover had advocated loans of pri-
vate character in various messages and
statements earlier in the session.
Earlier in his speech the Californian
had asserted the President must take
the onus and responsibility If there be
no relief legislation passed by the
Congress"
Senator Watson, the majority leader,
asked johnson if he did not recognize
any difference between loans to private
industry that would lead to employ
ment of men and loans to individuals
here and there
johnson replied by asking Watson if
he is under the impression the pend
ing bill provides for loans without
adequate security and safeguard.
A Democratic attempt to compromise
had collapsed yesterday through Speak
er Gamers inSistence upon provision
for loans to individuals.
Refuses Compromise.
Garner, the Democratic vice presi-
Dental nominee, refused to compro-
mise with Senate Democrats as he had
previously declined to yield to Presi-
dent Hoover
Yesterdays effort to seek compro-
mise from Garner was made by a COM
mittee of three Democratic Senators
appointed by a conference of the Senate
minority. Some of those in the con-
ference felt it would be wiser to yield
to the President before a veto than
after, and proposed the negotiations
with Garner.
Although there was considerable criti-
cism in the conference of Gamers
stand, there was strong disposition to
support the Speaker if he insisted upon
sending the bill to the President in its
present form.
The committee appointed to talk the
matter over with Garner was composed
of Senator Robinson, the Democratic
leader, and Senators Wagner Of New
York and Bulkley of Ohio.