Evening star., 1932-06-02
SUBSTITUTE RELIEF
| PROGRAM OFFERED
Administration Measures Are
Along Lines Suggested
by Hoover.
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could be undertaken under the Rainev
pill, he said, jobs could be had for
63, ,442 men.
The purpose of this statement, he
SAID, is to show that this work ts
largely mechanical and will provide
comparatively a small number Of addt-
tional jobs"
Figures Challenged.
In his attack upon the public works
section Of the Senate bill, Mills said
sl20 100000 for road building would
give jobs directly to 33,1s3 men, s4S,-
100000 for river and harbor projects
would employ only 1880 men and
sloo,0oo,ooo for public buildings would
give direct employment to but 500 men
ana indirectly provide for 1900 others.
Members OF the committee challenged
Mills figures.
Wagner said his figures on river and
harbor projects were "preposterous."
1T Is obvious that can't be correct"
Wagner said Of his estimate that only
1880 men would be employed.
Your quarrel is with the engineers"
Mills replied, explaining the figures had
been presented BY Army engineers.
You ano l arc not eng .neers," he re-
minded Wagner.
We drew this bill from a national
standpoint" Wagner replied, and we
can't afford in a crisis like this to be
provincial"
Mills said his figures proved beyond
question" that this method OF attack
IS wholly ineffective in solving the un-
employment problem
Fights Public Works Provision.
Urging the committee To eliminate
the public works provision, Mills said
There is much greater hope, not
only OF relief to employment. but OF
actually stimulating a business revival,
through the loans provided for under
section ta) Tor so-called projects OF
self-iiquldating character, though on
the one hand the list of projects could
be advantaeeously added to- and on
the other the protective features need
STRENGTHENING
Mills discussed the direct loan pro-
vision with Senator Glass. Democrat,
of Virginia. who was Secretary Of the
Treasury under President Wilson.
I'm opposed TO this whole thing"
Glass said. Il don't think State
should exist that can't take care Of
itself. I'd be ashamed if the State Of
Virginia had to ask for help"
I'D be ashamed Of New York too"
Mills replied, IF it went with hat in
hand begging far aims"
Senator Wagner said he would be
willing Ito trust the integrity of the
Governors" not to borrow unless the
money was needed.
You want a subordinate here in
Washington to decide" he added.
No" Mills retorted, Il want Con-
gress to apply test"
Hurley Presents Figures.
Hurley told the House committee that
with rivers and haroorS maintenance
funds of S22 ,333650 and the $685.
$50 carried in the War Department sup
ply bill for new work next year, total
of s92, ,265500 would be expended for
such activities.
With the projects totaling sl54399.-
$50 that can be undertaken economi-
cally and reasonably under the RaineY
bill and the s22 ,333650 carried in the
supply bill for maintenance. Hurley
said a total expenditure OF SITS, 735. 400
would be necessary.
Hurley said the administration and
Army engineers were committed TO
policy Of developing the upper Missis-
sippi but that plans for deepening this
section of the stream from six to nine
feet were incomplete.
Asked what effect the development Of
the upper Mississippi and Missouri
Rivers would have, Hurley said, Tho
complete transportation of the future
will be a co-ordinated composite of rail-
air. water, pipe line and bus
Hurley said he understood he was
called to testify only on the sections
affecting his department, but instead
he was being questioned about unem-
ployment relief.
Would Have Had . Plan.
IF I had known I was going to tes-
tify on unemployment relief ! would
have had a plan to submit to you,"
Hurley said.
He asserted that so far as unemploy-
ment was concerned the Garner pro-
gram will not be drop in the
bucket"
we can't have prosperous business
in this country with a bankrupt Ma
tional Government" Hurley asserted.
perity to this country is to cut ex-
penSes Of the Government to within its
income. and this bill adds expenses.
We have not got the money to
paw for it,"
Hurley said the bill would tear
down" the Governments intelligent
program for development Of rivers and
harbors and increase bureaucracy.
This program in this bill is not an
answer to the unemployment situation"
Hurley reiterated.
Reminded by Representative Sanders.
Democrat, Of Texas that the Rainey
bill provides a tax Of one-fourth Of l
cent a gallon on gasoline to meet the
sinking fund and interest requirements
of bonds to be issued to cover payments
for projects in the bill. Hurley recalled
that the Senate yesterday levied q l..
cent tax on gasoline, and added:
II don't think the country can stand
further taxes on gasoline"
Warns Against Dole.
Hurley said he was "unalterably op-
posed" to the section of the bill provid-
ing sl00 100000 for direct relief to the
distressed
When we have seen mighty empires
driven to need by dole, think it should
be warning to us to stay away from
such principle" Hurley said Il think
it is contrary to the principle on which
America was founded"
The substitute bill offered to the Sen
ate Committee by Mills for regulating
the loans to States for relief provided:
Loans to States by the purchase Of
their bonds.
Advances to States which are pre-
vented by their constitutions from bor-
rowing on assurance of their Governors
that reasonable effort will be made to
provide for repayment
Withholding of future Federal aid
funds if the States do not repay.
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