The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1932-02-18
TALKING
ITOvER
By JOE WILLIAMS

NEW YORK, Feb. 1S.-The Earl
' Of Sande, as the boys call him,
may come back TO the track this
year as a steeplechase rider. And
again he may not. It's just an urge
with him now.
The Earl's put on weight and he's
too heavy to ride on the fiat any
more. Besides there aren't many
glories on the fiat that he hasn't
already achieved. Riding over the
hedges and the fences would be a
new adventure for the most pictur-
esque jockey the turf has known
since the days of Snapper CARR
son and Tod Sloan.
This. Earl sort OF feels that It would be
NE 20 take shot at the Grand Ma
gether incredible English Jumping race
yeah. 1t would be kind OF nice to top
9 a.. my riding DAYS by winning tina. one
Apparently Jockeys are like ball players
s 1a nEnIers They still want TO kesp on
bbo 20 iglji,, Sande has about, All the money
on a horses back. suppose you miss him
his tack. announced he was through as a
rluer, bought stable and went into the
Ga9Seing business, as trainer and owner. He
to work with. But the adventure was too
Goss,y. ar ana when his star. NaSsaek, broke
saddie-~a loser BY about SIS. 600. - '''~
n
HERE is no reason why Sande
4 shouldn't continue in the racing
business in some capacity He knows
all there is to know about horses.
There is nothing wrong with his
noodle. He is quick witted, intelli-
gent and sound. I like to talk with
him about the track. From him you
learn there is big money in racing
from a crack rider. The years top
notcher will make $4,000 or better.
Sande's best year was 1923 when he coll
lected 1000 In fees. probably an all-time
record; That was the year he won thirty
Nine MI stakes: Including the Derby with zev.
consistently successful season.
1t Is interesting to learn that riders en-
ness was fansscsd thro III same BUSINESS mess
representative. who worked on commits
sion basis; in the same manner that agents
fighters. 1t is seldom that rider per-
soTnally makes 2 deal for 2 mount
ries his own valet around with him. For
wears Sande had the same valet. one Lee
Miller; a gentleman of color. who, was en-
and trousers. Only the. blouse and cap
Wallets dutv to see that these habilncnts
ore kept spick and span. as. believe. the
A rider must have three saddles of vary
ing weights. In a race where the impost
is 100 pounds lighter saddle obviously is
gsed than tin IN stake t race where the weight
cost from Sac TO- s7S ne boots Gns cost $50
sande went through three complete out
fits.
ONLY two jockeys in history
~ have ridden three Derby win
ners. Sande is one of them. He
had the leg up on Zev, Flying Ebony
and Twenty Grand. The other
three-tine winner was a little Negro
boy anonymously named Isaac
Murphy.
Sande's victory on Flying Ebony is
worth recalling. This was the race
n'which he had no mount twenty
four hours before the field went to
the post. Quatrain was the favorite,
and his owner, Fred Johnson, find
ing Sande available, wanted him to
ride, thoug4 he already had en-
gagged another jockey, Ben Bruen-
ing.
johnson came to me and said he want
ed me TO ride his colt. says Sande. He
urged me TO 60 to Bruening and make him
an CHER of 1000 for the mount. He said
he would reimburse me. l liked Quatrain
and was eager to ride him. but / knew
something johnson didn't know, or didn't
appreciate knew how eager Bruening
with a chance to win the Derby, was to
ride the favorite. so I refused
"A few hours later Bill Duke who was
training the Clifford A. Cochrane stable
told me / could ride FLYING Ebony II l
wanted a mount. He's got more thai. an
outside chance said Bill and if YOU Get
the breaks I thing you can win with him.
Well.-1i must have gotten the breaks. be-
cause ! won with him and 1 think II was
the greatest thrill ever had on the
Just to keep the records straight it
should be added-though the Earl of
Sande did not mention it--that Quatrain
the heavily played favorite. was nowhere
when the winning numbers were posted
Which may or may not indicate that in
these big races the rider is more I'M
portant than the horse.
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