Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1931-10-21
TRUCK DRIVER DESCRIBES TRUNK
Mysterious Actions of Mrs. Judd Told
by Transfer Man.

PHOENIX, Ariz. October 81 (P).-
Details of the transfer of a terribly
heavy trunk for Mrs Winnie Ruth
Judd have been related by Richard M.
SWartz to assist in solution of the muir
der OF Miss Hedvig Samuelson and Mrs.
Agnes lie Roi.
SWartz, a truck driver for a transfer
company, told investigators of the dis
trict attorneys office he was called the
night of October II to the lie Roi-
Samuelson apartment
Evasion manifest at the time of the
movement of the trunk was added
today to the evidence officers assert
points TO Mrs. Judd as the slayer The
victims were not seen alive after
935 pm. october 16.
Identifies Her Photograph.
swartz said he found the apartment
in darkness. At the door was woman
he later identified from a photograph
as Mrs. Judd
Il want this trunk taken to the sta
ton" she said
Swartz stumbled over the threshold
as he entered
I'm sorry" he said Mrs. Judd told
him; I'm going away and have had
the lights turned off You'll have to
get along as best you can in the dark. "
Die LllIH W LIlc rear Ol The apart
ment and pointed out big trunk. He
was unable to lift it from the floor.
What he asked, lis in that to
make it so heavv?"
Books" Mrs. Judd replied briefly.
SWartZ summoned two friends who
had ridden up with him on the truck.
Together they dragged the trunk out.
Mrs. Judd clicked the door and then
exclaimed she had locked her keys in
w. - H.,
the screen off the bath rocm window,
which was open. and crawled in. He
admitted Mrs. Judd through the front
door.
Turned Lights on.
Mrs. Judd, he said. went to the bath
room to close the window and dropped
her keys. With an exclamation, she
pushed the light switch and the lights
came on. Swartz said he was surprised,
but that Mrs. Judd said nothing, SWoop-
ed up the keys, turned off the lights
and Scuttled out the front door,
The house safely locked, he informed
Mrs. Judd he could not take the trunk
to the railroad station unless she would
accompany it, since il was apparent
the weight charge upon it would be ex-
cessive.
She then tcld him to take it to 113O
Brill street. which later investigation
proved to be her own home Police
learned the same trunk. together with a
smaller one, was taken to the railroad
station Sunday by H. U. Grimm. owner
of the apartment at the request of Mrs
Judd. for shipment to Los Angeles.
Although they had the testimony of
one neighbor that three shots were
heard from the victims apartment the
night of October Is and police had
found bloodstainS there, Investigators
were unable to determine definitely
where the Sayings were perpetrated.
Plausible Accomplish Unknown.
officers were unable to agree that
nor could they fasten upon a plausible
accomplice. Swartz said scratches upon
the floor indicated the trunk had been
dragged about before his arrival
Neighbors testified that Mrs. Judd
although presumably living alone rang
the doorbell several times at her Brill
street fiat when she arrived with the
transfer man and the heavy trunk be-
fore unlocking the door with her own
key Officers found narcotic derivative
and liquor in her apartment.
Samuelson and Mrs. LIE Roi regarding
their conduct was divided, some describ-
ing them as quiet and others as
wild"
Mrs. Judd moved out of an apartment
adjoining the Samuelson-Le Roi apart
ment three weeks ago after what neigh
bors described as little tiff"
The suspects clinic superiors here as
serted she was not capable" of the act
with which she is charged although to
attempt to help some one out of seri-
Gus dificulty would be lust like her."