The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1931-11-03
TALKING
IT Over
BY JOE WILLIAMS

NEW YORK, Nov. 81 suppose
IN reading all those stories about
Dempsey and Leonard trying to
come back had something to do
with 1t. I near about my going up
TO Bill Browns farm on the Hud-
son and doing two weeks of train
ing. I must have said to myself,
We'll, If those guys can come back
sc can /"
I didn't realize how far I had slipped
until I picked the Cards to win the world
series. When they won I knew something
was desperately wrong. In the old DAYS.
I used to be able to pick EN- wrong with
out the slightest effort. But that was
when I was young and in good condition.
ready to 20 the route. and barring no chal-
~leneers.
Bill Browns farm sits on TOP Of a knoll
in the lower CatskiIls directly across the
river from West Point where your Uncle
Sam turns out all-America soldiers and
half backs.
Bill Brown is a tall, white haired. rudy
faced Irishman with a lively sense Of
humor and a fine understanding Of man
kind. He has devoted the last twenty-five
IENAe "a AAA9 AAAE ~ Ak-EsAA~@sA<%+N@N N~
American professional man. most Of them
verRing on that stubby plateau Of exist
ence known as middle age.
There is something about the character
Of Bill Brown that transforms casual
contacts into friendships. Some very i'm
portant Americans come great distances to
break bread with him Up there in the
monastic forest where bright-hued pheas-
ants wheel through the air and leRgy look
ing deer scramble through the woods.
I suppose that only the veteran sports
follower remembers the Bill Brown OF
Broadwav-the man who originated the
both members of this club" era in prize
fighting. His club in Twenty-Third street
near Sixth avenue was the cradle from
which many a glamorous fighting career
grew to maturity.
Freddie Welsh for one. Freddie started
there as a three dollar fighter. Bill Brown
gave him the name of Welsh. 1t sounded
more like a fighting name than Freddies
real name. Freddie later became the
world lightweight champion. taking the
title from Willie Ritchie in a LONDON ring
after twenty rounds.
TINE complete story OF Bill
Browns Twenty-third street
club would make exciting reaolng.
Bill Brown ran it in precisely tne
same way he runs his farm ne
was the proprietor, the promoVer anu
the referee. In short, the works. IN
those DAYS the fighters had to 1ighC
W. thew were chased from the
premises. r-
Once in a while Proprietor-PromoIeI-
peforee Brown would fail to get the gIaui-
otors tn eladiate with as much 1uIy anu
yiolence as he deemed essential to the Ell
iovment Of his patrons. In such cit0uin
stances he would stop the show ana WIN
! studied Tenth avenue elegance an
nounce. st am going to throw THESE Two
huns out of my joint and anybody "naV
wants his dough back can get IL at t"e
box office" no1-
,ty about the TWenty-third street eluD'
One night Kid Mccoy; sttagtlhhee ssie Bow
PPeter,sons Of the 1906 period. Very mucn
pleased with himself. MI; McGoyd ioppifv
pateo etesffeIiness when old Bob Fitzsimmons,
anu side observer. climbed through the
zones and invited Mr.. Mccoy to put Oh
the o,6 giI Bob had had a few ,beakers Of rye
and do was aSD miodtiyated more BY a 5PIFs fnkilsdi
instinct than 62ia+s blood 00 t ITS'' incident 3Ssn IS frag;
mmentary. but the fact seems to be t2aE oua
Bob took one n si iigsbiHagg for ITS IT'S boisteTrous
ssTSa5rnsdo rather than accuracy-betore the
referee stepped between them. +oLee IN
~ Tetrospect this little fare-up, taxes oH
~ rnarientic and fabulous aspect. 1t couIonI
beDpen TODAY, 1t would be aimoSI ON
PARABLE to Dempsey Jumping into { shar kew
daua,da dronping Carnera with a punch ana
saying, See, that's the way TO ni''
1TTTI, Bill Brown has a beautiful
- estate and seems to be doing all
right. He's got a pretty good racket
The customers pay him dough o
the privilege of getting up at DAD
in the morning and going to ped at
8.45 in the evening. In between
times they pant and pun througn
a gymnasium routine n Tear Oh
long hikes through the hills.
I noted that during these mixes sfsrt GHd
brood around them and tremolea IN APP
preHension. I didn't blame them m I Geek
alfred ob IL , 95%g SGO' p;an ts''i Impins
syong Witn ana Alpine canes. and groaning
nnHpples' Mr.. Browns hiking Squa1 Pet
sents a picture that n tb oo9 aon1 a Of an a%iienist.
"N Ss for myself. 1 smilingly quote the
toiiowing. ~ a the Two local Re s9for' Of t Gaf4iE wit i
WIZ. eeySident that battling Williams stu
Carries his punch. but the experts is, are ba m
ciined to believe his legs have gon pe pave
On him. If he fights again ne VIII nav
on gef his man early or not at all. Among
other things he appears to be very snort
wl Wbat a laugh that guy isl Me short
windedl Hal