Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1931-04-16
CONFESSION TELLS
OF HOLD-UP PLOT
Clerk in District Auditors
Office. With Accomplish,
Is Held.
Continued From First Page.)


and the gang to pull the job. He then
gave us a layout of the place, telilng
us how many would be there and all
the details. He said that on Saturday
or Sunday he would go down to the
District Building and make a drawing
of the whole place, showing the Sltua-
ton at the vault, the number OF en-
ployes on duty in the auditors office,
and that the plot he would draw
would show the means of getting In
and out of the Office and building.
''About three days after Fisher tore
nm the first plot, Jack went back to
Fishers apartment and Fisher gave him
the second drawing (now in possession
of the police and Fisher said that the
second drawing was the one that ne
said he would make. In the meantime,
Jack got in touch with Fisher and made
arrangements for meeting with us at
the hotel yesterday evening.
Jack and I were in our room at the
hotel and about o'clock in The after
noon a man came into the room ana
Jack introduced him to me as John
McHugh. and said that the latter wa
known as Johnny Mack and that n
was one of his mob and had been o..
a number of jobs with him. We 2<h
got together and carefully studied tl'%
map and laid our plans to pull the JOB,
this being done while awaiting the ar
rival of Fisher, who arrived at ABOUT
sis pm. We discussed the various
things that we had to consider and
when Fisher entered the room JACK
introduced Johnny Mack and told him
that Johnny was the machine gun man
and that he would provide all the equip
ment necessary to pull the job, mcluo-
ing the automobile.
Plans Discussed Thoroughly.
'"The map was placed on a table in
the room, and the four OF us discussed
thoroughly the hest way to tackle tne
Job and make our getaway. During our
talk Fisher said that there would be
about $3.50 900 in checks in the ONCE
and about S12O,0 in cash. Fisher also
informed us that if the pay roll was
completely made up all of the money
would be in envelopes and that II the
pay roll had not been completed some
Of the currency would be on some OF
the desks.
owe then discussed with Fisher the
manner we would use to gain control
Of the situation when we had gotten
inside of the office, and it was agreed
that one man would take care OF the
supervisor and Johnny Mack, the ma
chine gun man would stand oil IN a
corner of the room, where he could
keep the employees on duty In the ONCE
under cover of the machine gun ana
have full control of the situation, ana
ii making the get away it was tenta-
lively agreed that we would leave by
the south door on Thirteenth street,
iurnp into our car and proceed south
to D street, west on D street to Four
tenth street, our further progress at
that point being dependent upon con-
dition of traffic.
During a part OF our conversation
I1n hnd
through the Office of the man in charge
of the auditors Office and in passing
the supervisors desk he noted that the
middle drawer of the desk was open
and that he saw lying in the said
drawer, a revolver, which he described
as being Of .38 or AS caliber. And he
told us that this information was
something new and that 1t should have
our consideration.
FISHER also informed us that at
one of the windows in the Office you
could look directly back in the direc-
ton of the vault and safe and that
the safe could be seen from the window,
and that If the safe was locked every
thing would be of. Going back to the
second time of our visit to Fishers
apartment, at which time Fisher, Jack
and myself were present, we discussed
the manner in which We would split
the money in the event we were sue
cesSful.
Says Fisher Demanded half.
''Fisher said he wanted half the
amount secured and that Jack and
myself would split the remainder. Later
on after Johnny Mack came into the
scene, Jack said Johnny Mack would
have to get Is grand. Johnny Mack
then said that he had not been down to
look the Job over and that he would
look it over the next day, and If 1t
appeared necessary to make any change
of plans, Johnny Mack would get IN
touch with Jack and Jack could reach
Fisher at his Office in the District
Building or at his apartment. This
concluded our plans for the day, and
the four of us together started to leave
the room and had opened the door
when detectives took us into custody
and brought US to headquarters.
AT one time during our discussion
there was confusion In cur minds as to
what Office occupied the south side OF
the District Building, between Thir-
teen -and-a-Hah and Fourteenth street,
and TO clarity this in our minds, Fisher
took a pin and made some marks on
the map showing what part OF that
south side of the building was used fer
offices. This statement Is made volun-
tarily without urge or pressure and
without promise"
Detectives on Guard.
De Ward and Trainor met Fisher
and Stumm who also Is known as Rob-
ert Dixon, at the hotel on Fourteenth
street. With three detectives on guard
n the next room, De Ward and Trainor
induced the men to review their plan
Fisher and Stumn, according 10 po-
lice. said they intended TO stage the
hold-up on Decoration day.
While the plot still was being dis
cussed, DeWard sauntered over TO a
window, threw it open and exclaimed
Signals for Police.
'WheW! It's hot IN nere!"
The remark was a prearranged sig
nal, and few moments later Detective
Lieut.. Charles ]. P. Weber and Detec-
tive Sergts. Chester c. S-epp and John
w. Wise entered the room with drawn
revolvers and arrested Fisher and
Stumm.
what Is this? A hold-up?" Fisher
demanded.
You bet 1t is" Lieut.. Weber replied
"and it will be finished at headquarters. p
De Ward and Trainor carried out
their roles until they reached head
quarters, where they conferred with
Inspector Shelby and the three de-
tectives, TO whom they related their
story.
Fisher and Stumm were turned over
TO patrolmen ana placed in cells in two
widely separated precincts, the former
at the twelfth and the latter at the
fifth.
Trainor told police he first thought
the men were joking and agreed to par
ticipate in the robbery. He became
alarmed when he later learned the pan
actually were plotting to rob the dis
bursting officer, and told police what he
had learned, without giving Fisher and
Dixon cause for suspicion.
Siay or two later Stun1Iu set about