The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1931-04-28
LESLIE STORY
DISPUTED BY
HOUSE CLERK
Dick Heller Declares That
Governor Said He Didn't
Want to Return Bill
PLOT CHARGES SIFTED
Grand Jury Hears Evidence
in Conspiracy Case on
Bus Measure.

sage OF House Bill in the waning
hours of Indiana's 1881 legislature
were related in a conference with
Oscar Hagemeir, deputy grand Jury
prosecutor, today by Dick Heller,
clerk Of the house of representa-
tiveS.
Heller appeared at the court
house purposely to talk before the
grand jury this morning, but did not
because Hagemeir wished to confer
with Prosecutor Herbert E. Wilson
first, it was learned
simultaneously, representatives of
the attorney generals Office pre-
pared an answer to the circuit court
suits in which it is charged the bill
was mutilated and passed by alleged
conspirators in the period of con-
fusion that marks the closing Of an
assembly session.
Herbert Spencer. assistant city at
torney, and Representative Jacob
Weiss dem, Marion), testified to-
day before the grand jury.
Heller. before comforting with
Hagemeier, related story that is
contradictory to that told by Gov
ernor Harry C. Leslie Monday be-
fore Leslie testified.
Disputes Leslie's Word
Leslie said he never had refused
to return a bill to the legislative
bodies. But Heller declared Leslie
told him he did not like to return
a bill with my signature on it"
The jury probe is based on suits
fled in circuit court by Muncie and
indianapolis, in which an injunc-
ton is sought to prevent Frank
Mayr Jr., secretary of state, from
publishing the 1891 acts, because
of the alleged conspiracy and fraud
in passage of the motor and truck
bill
The states prepared demurrer
and answer deny existence Of the
alleged conspiracy, pointing out that
it is Mayr's duty to publish the acts
and he can not go behind the pass
age and signing Of the enrolled bill.
Commission Given Control
Tt also is set out that prohibition
of the publication of 112 acts with
out emergency clauses would not
make the truck law valid and it
would come to a real test in fact,
only after the commission had is
sued an order.
The bill, as it stands, vests all
authority of bus and truck control
with the public service commission.
The original bill, it is alleged. con-
tanned the provision for municipal
tiles to control bus and truck opera
tons in cities and towns. It is
charged the alleged conspirators
had this section removed.
Heller said after enrolment Of the
bill he received a message from the
senate asking recall Of the bill, so
correction might be made. Repre-
sentative Russell j. Dean Dem,
Marion), witness Monday before the
grand jury, made a motion and
Heller went to Leslie's Office. he
said.
Leslie's Mentor Present
Heller said he was admitted and
Leslie was in company with Henry
Marshall, Lafayette publisher and
mentor Of Leslie, and another man,
who, it is reported, was Charles w.
Chase, insult utility representative.
When Heller told Leslie he knew
nothing of the bill, Heller said Les
lie asked:
HAS Dean any particular interest
in the bill?"
Heller said he told Leslie he be-
heved Dean only had been asked
to move for the recall.
Heller said Leslie picked up sew
eral bills, asserting: IT have signed
these bills and House Bill 6 is among
them. don't like very well to
send bill back with my signature
on it."
Wanted to Consult Dean
eff Dean really wants this re-
called, I'd like to talk to him about
it down here. Keller said Leslie
declared.
According to Heller, he told the
Governor that he would consult with
Dean and if Dean wanted it with
drawn Heller would have Dean see
Leslie, and 'if Dean doesn't I'll tell
him to withdraw the motion"
Heller said he conferred with
Harvey Harmon, house parliamen-
tartan, and was advised that recan
after signature probably could not
be effected and the most direct way
would be to have the motion with
drawn.
4 then went to Dean and asked
how interested he was in the bill
and he told me he didn't know
much about it," Heller said, except
that ne had been asked to present
the motion to withdraw the bill"
Weiss Blocks Move
Il then told him that the Cover
nor would ike to talk to him about
what changes are going to be made.
and that it would simplify matters a
great deal, If he was not interested
in the measure, to Withdraw the
motion. inasmuch as Leslie had
signed the bill
Dean then asked for permission
to withdraw his motion and Weiss,
who had seconded the original mo-
ton refused to Withdraw his sec
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