Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1931-01-25

committees of Congress that those
should be cloSed?"
Mr.. Haycock replied that the boarc
had given full consideration to thai
matter. and Simmons asked, And then
determined to violate that agreement?'
Nursing Glass Charged.
Mr.. Haycock said that the Webster
School kindergarten made it possible
for mothers who are students of 1.-The
Americanization citizenship classes to
continue their own attendance at school
since their younger children could be
left in the kindergarten class. Simmons
reminded him that all Of these facts
were known year ago when the agree
ment was reached.
From this point on the hearings run
for q dozen pages with reports of Mr..
HaycockS explanation of the School
Boards action for which he was not
responsible. At the end of this testi-
mony the issue apparently remained
unchanged, for Simmons asked:
"As I understand your justification
Of this, then, without regard to the
agreement in existence. you are doing
some nursing while these mothers are
in Americanization claSses?"
DR.. Carusi interrupted: THAT is
exactly it,"
From this point on various members
of the committee dwelt upon the fact
that the kindergarten actually was a
nursery when Simmons declared that
'tan the teachers does is to play with
them" and Mr.. Collins added land
teaches them to say mama and papa"
Mr.. Haycock suggested that the whole
committee should visit one (of these
classes) to see what is done to these
folk"
Proceedings Thought Unfair.
"That," returned Mr.. Simmons, twas
the unfortunate thing about it so far
as the schools are concerned. We did
visit one of them"
A moment later in the hearings, Mr.
Simmons invited DR.. CaruSi to SAY a
word on this subject" The school
board president asked to be permitted
to speak for five minutes without in
terruption. He said he had respect for
members of the committee but that
he felt that Gin attacking the integrity
Of members OF the Board of Education
and particularly in attacking the Board
Of Education through its subordinate
who has no responsibility for the Board
OF Education, who has no right to
answer for the Board of Education
it is no business of his to apologize for
the Board of Education-it occurs to
4uCp Scnb4CulcI, dIku Dis i SdlQ DSIOTe,
with entire respect, that that is not an
altogether fair proceeding to a board
which Is subjected to the accusation OF
having deliberately violated an agree
ment which it had with this COM
mittee"
Mr.. Simmons asked:
do you want to talk to the commit
tee about this item, or are you giving
the committee a gratuitous lecture as
to how it shall conduct the hearing? If
you want to discuss the item, discuss
it and do not lecture us about how we
shall conduct the hearing"
Right As Citizen Claimed.
DR.. Carusi replied he did not want
to lecture" but said he felt he had
q right, as citizen of the United
States, If in no other capacity, to be
heard IN defense of an accusation to
which he necessarily was party. Mr.
Carusi reminded the committee that
the School Board never was given an
opportunity to discuss the kindergartens
while the hearings, at which the pro-
poSal to reduce their stats was made,
were under way.
The Board of Education, he said,
'does not make agreements with this
committee when Mr.. Haycock expresses
an agreement with the committee or
uIdkcS pTOlulSeS 10 Tie COIuInlJJe6. ne
added that his assurance as president
Of the board would not necessarily
mean that the organization he heads
would do what he agreed.
Mr.. Simmons reminded DR.. Carusi
that the appropriation bill as it passed
the House carried a stipulation that
under-age kindergartens we're to be
closed, but that the Senate struck out
that proviso. This, Simmons contend
ed, informed the School Board presi-
dent that the committee felt the classes
should be eliminated.
There, Mr. Simmons" DR.. Carusi
said, lis just where the trouble comes.
knew nothing about any understand
ing between school officials If I had
1t would not have bound the board" A
moment later Simmons said:
Simmons Makes Query.
LET me ask you this question: Is this
committee to understand that when the
superintendent of schools and the as
sistant superintendent of schools come
before us and make certain statements
that those statements, If the Board of
Education sees 1T TO disagree with them,
may be ignored?"
Mr.. Simmons asked If the superin-
tendent and other officials spoke for the
board when they addressed the ccm-
u1ittee.
1T depends" DR.. Carusi said, "en-
tirely upon what they say. If they
undertake to usurp the functions of the
Board of Education by making private
agreements with one member or one
committee of one house of Congress,
am prepared to say definitely that the
Board of Education"
But DR.. Carlsi never finished, because
the chairman interrupted with the OBJ
servation that the agreement was made
with both committees.
Another eight pages were consumed
with explanations and counter explana-
tons of the boards actions after the
hearings last Fall. Finally Mr. Sim
mons asked definitely whether the
School Board president felt himself