Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1931-09-07
Ex-Capt. Schneider Says Ex.
pert Taught Method
in 1914.
FAUR0T TOLD HOW HOSE
WAS USED, LETTER SAYS
Retired New York Detective Does
Not Recall Lecturing Officers
on Abusive Methods.

The third degree" was introduced as
an officially condoned method of crime
detection for Washington police during
the regime of the late Raymond Pull
man, wartime police superintendent,
according to a former police captains
signed statement, now under investiga-
ton by the Department of Justice, in
connection with its inquiry into al
legged brutality in third-degree methods
OF the Metropolitan Police Department,
1t was disclosed today.
The former captain. Henry Schneider,
now an employe Of the Tax Collectors
once, made the charge in a letter to
the District Commissioners, who turned
the communication over to the Bureau
of Investigation. in charge of the Gov
ernment's inquiry into police brutality
charges.
Schneider in an interview today de-
clared detailed instruction in methods
of administering the third degree was
given in lecture to police officials and
detectives by Inspector Faurot Of the
New York Police Department.
Can't Recall Third Degree.
Faurot. since retired. when inter-
viewed over the long distance telephone
told The Star he lectured before local
police on methods Of law enforcement,
but he did not recall having discussed
the third degree
Schneider asserts the third degree
talk took place before 80 or 90 captains,
lieutenants. detectives and other police
officers assembled in the old Penn
Gardens, a dance resort which formerly
stood at the northeast corner Of
TWenty-first street and Pennsylvania
avenue. The dance hall was used in
order to accommodate the large number
of officers ordered to attend the lecture.
Inspector Faurot told US how the
third degree was used in New York"
Schneider stated, Il remember partlcu-
larry his description OF method for
using a piece of rubber hose in such q
way as to leave no marks on the pris-
oner He also mentioned how a brass
cuspidor, used back of the head, would
refresh a mans memory"
Amazed at Lecture.
Schneider said he was amazed that
the lecture was permitted, and he re-
marked to a police captain at his side
that he thought the New Yorker had
his nerve with him. Schneider
named a number of police officers IS
attending the lecture. He said Maj.
Pullman also had several civilian
friends present.
The third degree fourished under
Maj. Pullman, Schneider declared, but
was 1rOWneo upon Dy MAJ. EQWln %.
Hesse and the present superintendent,
Maj. Henry G. Pratt.
Lecture Is Recalled.
Several high police officials, when
questioned about the lecture, said they
had attended lecture by Inspector
Faurot some years ago, but had no rec
election of any mention Of the third
degree. Detective Sergt Fred Sand
berg, identification expert Of the de-
partment, recalled lecture by Faurot
on fingerprinting and other methods Of
Identification.
Files of The Star contain no reference
to lecture in 1914 by Faurot. but an
article published on February 2. 1917.
told OF lecture by Faurot at police
headquarters, during which he dis
cuSsed crime detection. with special ref
erence to police methods of the New
York police department" No mention
was made of the third degree in the
article.
Schneider has applied for REIN
statement in the police department. he
disclosed during the interview. Rec.
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