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The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1930-05-27
Storage and Transfer

LOCAL AND OVERLAND TRANSFER.
Fire-proof storage house. Store now. pay
s months later. No charge for hauline
In New trucks. Experienced men.
PARTLOW-JENKINS MOTOR CAR CO.
sle E Market Ri 775o
STORAGE MOVING
LARGE SANITARY WAREHOUSE.
STATE STORAGE, Inc.
227-2sl N NEW JERSEY. Ii. 226s
LOCAL and overland healing: packing AND
shipping IN househ1od goods .,OTTO J
1873. Oh. oees-w.
!. n. TAYLOR TRANS. AND STORAGE;
SPECIAL PRICES OVERLAND = To or
from Chicago. st. Louis. Detroit. Cleve
land or other cities. DR.. sou or Ri. 4265.
norman TRANSFER CO.-Satisfactory
moving service. overland trucking Of
furniture and freight. CHI. 53ll.
BRITTON TRANSFER--Movins $3.50 load:
large trucks. responsible men Dr. 16l6
MOVINGNSs5 so load & up: lrge. trks.; city
or overld: exp. Williams Trans. IT. O244.
NORTHWESTERN TRANSFER Copies
reasonable Call at all times. ia. St4l.
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Lost and Found
Help Wanted Male

sTRAYED-Large male police dog, dark
back. cream color breast, chain and cnaln
collar Reward. DR.. pap.
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LEGAL NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING.
NO. 227-M. 229-M.
In the matter of the petition of Bryant
NJ. Bouslog and lola Bouslog to sell, and
public convenience and necessity Nos.
227-M and 228-M covering motor vehicle
common carrier service between New
Castle and Anderson, Indiana, and be
tween Middletown and Richmond, In
diana.
Notice is hereby given that the Public
Service Commission of Indiana will con-
duct public hearing in the above entitled
cause in the rooms of the Commission at
Indianapolis, Indiana. at 1880 O'Clock
p. NJ. en- Tuesday. June 10th, 1880.
Public participation in this hearing is
revue ted nv the Commission.
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION OF
INDIANA.
BY J. w. MCARDLE. Chairman.
Indianapoli Indiana
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YEAGER WILL TALK
TO ATHLETIC CLUB
Riverside VI. Z. Recreation Director
on Program at Banquet.

William Yeager, recreation direc-
tor of the Riverside M. E. assembly
hall and a member of the Riverside
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MARRIED MEN

Help Wanted Male
MARRIED MEN
Indianapolis superintendent of large
manufacturer requires services OF four
married men under As. of clean habits
and neat appearance; three with safes
experience, one without sales experience;
must be satisfied with S35 per week to
start, with excellent advancement oppor-
tunites. See H. DAMMIT. WEDNESDAY
morning only. Room 4l0. BOT n. Penn
sylvania st.
MEN
Two more wanted; married preferred,
to handle regular routes; routes averaging
$50 so to S4250 weekly. Must be willing
to start for as little as $50 weekly aver
aSe while Tearing. Experience not
necessary. See MIR. LINE today or to-
morrow, between 4 and 6. 3l1 Circle
Tower. Ri. Ais.
WANTED-Advertising salesman, Must
have at least one years experience on
telephone work. AIS Century Bldg
statesmen AND SALESLADIES = Rare
opportunity. 625 Mass Ave. Ri. $3.50:
GOOD all around painter. IS N. Ritter.
Phone Ir. $3.50. during day.
Situations Wanted Female
RESPONSIBLE girl. wants to care for chill
dren for summer, reaS. refs. CaH 20
o. M Ee. 0677.
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Live Stock

Fresh Cows With Calves
Heavy mixers. prices right, IS down.
balance monthly. First barn south OF
18th on Noblesville road. HUI. 7243.
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BY J. ". M'CARDLE, Chairman.
Indianapolis, Indiana
Nav 26th, 1890

LEGAL NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION DOCK
EFT NO. 10S6-M.
In the matter of the application of The
Evansville. Suburban & Newburgh Rail-
way Company for certificate of public
convenience and necessity to operate mo-
tor vehicles as a common carrier of pas
sengers and property from Evansville. In
diana to Boonville. Indiana. passing
through and serving Chandler.
Notice is hereby given that the Public
Service Commission of Indiana will con-
duct public hearing in the above entitled
cause in the rooms of the Commission at
Indianapolis. Indiana, at 1870 O'Clock D..
m. on Monday. June 9. 1880.
Public participation in this hearing is
requested by the Commission.
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION OF IN
DIANA.
BY J. W. MCARDLE, Chairman.
Indiana polls. Indiana.
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Transportation

5OO-MILE RACE
Speedway Bus Service
LEAVES ILLINOIS & KENTUCKY AVE.
WAY RACE.
F. j. Smith Bus Lines
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Situations Wanted Female
Rooms for Rent

RESPONSIBLE girl. wants to care fol, chill:
dren for summer, reas. refs. Can 1t
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Trucks

IF YOU ARE LOOKING-For economical
Transportation in thoroughly reconditioned
trucks. see the General Motors Truck Co.
Used Truck Department. 731 z. Market
st. Ii. 1857.
90 GOOD rebuilt trucks all sizes: parts
and bodies for al make trucks. INDIANA
APoL18 TRUCK AND PARTS CO., 1115
3. Georgia. pf. 112o.
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Business Places for Rent
Suburban for Rent

NEWMAN. -Storeroom equipped for
grocery and meats: S living rooms. Re-
duced rent. Ia. 1917. DAYS.
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Legal Notices

GOODS stored in the name of Chas. H.
Ayres, will be sold for storage, Wednes-
day June 18th, at 10 a. m. Goods hav-
ing been in storage the required length
Of time and charges unpaid
L. GATEWOOD. 738 King Ave.
LEGAL NOTICE
The board of trustees Of the Central
State hospital will receive sealed proposals
furnishing supplies for the month of June
1890. Estimate book will be on file at
Room lat State House from and after
Monday. Nav 26. 1880. BY order OF Board
Of Trustees.
AUCTION SALE-Legal notice Notice is
offer for sale at their place of business
445-447 East Court street. Indianap polls,
indiana, Tuesday June nth the follow
ing personal property Household goods
Amanda Studio. Inc. Cyril Boiling. Clar-
ence N. Eoff. Homer Miller and Warren
Nichols. Said sale being made to defray
expense Of storage and other charges.
Sale will be for cash and public.
SANITARY STORAGE COMPANY.
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION DOCKET
NO. l084-M
In the matter of the application of
Carl Braun, Elwood. Indiana, for GER
tiflcate of public convenience and neceS-
sity to operate motor vehicles as a COM
mon carrier of passengers from Elwood,
Indiana to Indianapolis. Indiana, Serv-
ing intermediate points.
Notice is hereby given that the Public
Service Commission OF Indiana will con-
duct public hearing in the above entitled
cause in the rooms of the Commission
at Indianapolis. Indiana, at 1000 o'clock
Public participation in this hearing
is requested by the Commission.
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION
OF INDIANA.
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ALABAMA. NJ. 1221-2-rm:, apt, COM
pletely furn: $3.50; near bath. Ii. $3.50.
ALABAMA. n. T23-Rm.. kitchenette sink.
everything furn.. also single rm.
ASHLAND. l645-Dandy downstairs. front
2-rm. private apt. furn. overstuhed; ETC..
sink. also another for 81. he. 3l2O:
ASHLAND, 1922 completely furn:. con-
Meeting front rms; sink. range. phone.
BELLEFONTAINE, 1872 large rms. for
housekeeping; $3.50. ri. 2o89.
BELLEFONTAINE, I013-s furn.. mod.
front: also nm. kItchenette: pr. entrance:
BELMONT, N, l33-Complete 4-room home.
So Everything furnished.
COLLEGE, l9l3-Well furn.. 3-rm. apt:
everything complete; $40.
COLLEGE. 1322-Modern rooms nicely
furnished. Private home. RI 26o8
DEARBORN. n. I4l0-2 nicely furn front
rn,.. for housekeeping. down, adjoining
DETROIT. 249-Five rooms garage. s12.50;
English. lilo: electricity gas. $3.50.
EAST. n. 7I4-2-room apartment: priv
vate entrance: modern home. Ii. g9l2.
ILLINOIS. n, i744-2-rm. front apt;
nicely furnished. Ha. 4o33-R.
ILLINOIS. n. iI37-Nice rm. modern.
clean. Speedway visitors welcome. Ri. 5929.
LUDLOW AVE-. 16ls-FURN. RIM. MOD
ERN HOME. CHI 054s
MADISON AVE. 1s26--1 housekeepins rn1..
Modern. everything fuTn.; s.. Or. 4z54-W.
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CHURCHMAN and Hobart: modern Dutch
Colonial: chicken park; garage. Beech
Grove 104W.
ROCKVILLE ROAD
fremont Stop; 5-room single: $751;.
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Poultry and Supplies

BABY CHICKS-slo per hundred: assorted.
So; baby turkeys. $50; ducklings. SIS: 1
to weeks hrooder chicks. 12c to zoe.
Listen in over WFBM every Friday at
1925 and hear Mrs Boyer's chicken
talks. BOYER'S HATCHERY. Indian
apolis. Ind. "a N. Delaware. Ri. $40.
CARNEY quality chicks; guaranteed to
please you. See them at 249 f wash
ingt'n. before buy'g. All varieties Ri i723
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Houses for Rent

Bungalow, NOrLneaSC
5 rooms, modern, garage. first class
condition. 26l4 Brookside Pky.. N. DR..
s42.50 ner month.
Dunlop & Holtegel
II. s517. l22 T. Market st,
COLORED-29I0 Martindale: inside toilet:
SIS: water paid. Ii. 1855.
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Automobiles for Sale

Ford and Chevrolet coupes, Sc
dams, coaches and tourings, 1924
'25 anod '26 models, about Is of
these, all with 5 good tires, good
motors ard starters and guaranteed
batteries. Prices $25 to $35. Easy
terms. DIN CHEVROLET, Foun-
tain Square store, 1865 Virginia
Ave-, DR.. 1915.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
'|NSULL,71,SEES
| LOW MONEY AS
| BRIGHT SPOT
Employees and Associates Aid
in Celebration of Natal
Day of Utility Magnats

CHICAGO, Nov. 13. QN.SJ
Samuel insult on his seventy-first
birthday took time to discuss the
trend Of business, the future Of
the civic opera and himself.
His friends and associates tsle-
phoned congratulations, some Of
the employe groups sent bouquets,
and Mrs. Anna Peterson, direc-
tor of home economics for the
gas company, followed her GUS
tom Of 20 years by baking q
birthday cake bearing II candles.
The industrial depression, he
said, is of major proportions, but
in certain respects is far less
acute than any that preceded. 1t.
A favorable aspect, he said, Is
the plentiful supply Of money.
Mr.. insult, when asked Of busi-
ness prospects, cited the record
Of his own companies. In so far
as the utilities field is concerned,
he regards the depression as only
temporary and believes 1t win
have small effect on the growth
Of the companies.
The Civic Opera, one of Mr..
Insults paramount interests, has
suffered heavily in the depres-
sion, he said. He explained:
Opera is q luxury, and luz.
uries always suffer first. How.
ever, / have no anxiety over
the ultimate course Of the
opera. 1t will grow as Chicago
grows and / have estimated
that the Chicago area will have
100000 population by 1865.
"RuIes Of life? None, espe.
cially. / don't take outdoor ex-
ercise at this time of year.
Neither are my hours partictl-
Iarly regular. My only rule Is
that I never take a drink"
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
TUBE SUIT
IS CLOSED

PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 49,
The United States District Court
Of Appeals here, by a vote of 2
to / Of its judges, sustained a
suit by the General Electric Com
pany against the De Forest Radio
Company for infringement of the
Irving Langmuir patent on radio
vacuum tubes, which is uni
verSally used.
BY the decision the court of
appeals reverSeS itself in rul-
ing handed down in October,
1929, in which it held the patent
invalid. The court, however,
afterward granted General Elec-
trio a rehearing and now has
changed the decision in favor of
the General Electric Company.
The decision is considered I'M
portant in the radio industry,
and if it stands the test of an
appeal to the Supreme Court it
will give to General Electric ex-
elusive control of the manufac-
tute and production of vacuum
tubes such as are used in receiv.
ing sets today.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
General Motors Proves
High Wage Soundness

profit by his leisure hours.
This development Of purchas-
ing power creates wealth,
which, in turn, reacts and re-
acts throughout our whole In
duStrial situation"
The proof Of the wisdom Of
this practice is found in General
Motors balance sheet, covering
operations in the first nine
months of this year-the most
trying period of the depression.
At the end of September the
corporation had more than $1i5,
000, 900 in cash, nearly $42, ,0O0,-
900 in United States Government
securities and more than 4,O00.-
900 in other marketable Securi-
ties. This is a gain of 72,00O,-
600, in round numbers, in cash
and securities since the end Of
1929.
In addition General Motors
Topped more than $4,000, 900 from
its inventory account that is,
its supplies of new cars and raw
materials were reduced that much.
Grounds for Optimism
While the company'S current
assets were increased, its liabili-
ties or debts were reduced some
$33, 200, 900. The company now
has a surplus of more than $979,-
100000.
The company has been able to
do this without reducing wages
and salaries and in the face of
declining earnings.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
,uld WAGES be cut?

Should wages be cut?
No, is the decisive answer Of
Alfred Pritchard Sloan, jr., pres.
ident. General Motors Corp. And
Mr.. Sloan backs up his answer
with proof.
There has been lots of talk on
both sides of this question, but
this is the first time one Of the
country's biggest industrial con-
Germs comes forward with proof
that cuts in wages are absolutely
unnecessary.
No Cuts BY Motors
Here's what Mr.. Sloan has to
say on the matter:
General. Motors has not re-
duced either salaries or wages,
and 1t is my hope that no re-
adjustment of that character
will be necessary.
ITO my mind 1t is important
for industry to appreciate the
fact that the prosperity Of the
United Staes is founded on a
high wage scale. To reduce
tne wage scale would, in my
judgment, not only delay the
return of more normal times,
but would. put o limit, and an
unnecessary limit, on the fu.
ture prosperity of the country.
"The broader the m argin
that exists between the daily
wage and the necessities Of the
life the more the individual
has available to purchase addi.
tiOnal products and enjoy and
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
BILLION DOL[AR1
. NJ { R GE R Of |
. SINCLAIR OFF |
Negotiations Definitely Called
OFF Between oil Firm and
Pipe Line Company

CHICAGO, Nov. 13.-Negotia-
tionS for a billion-dollar merger
between Sinclair Consolidated Oil
Corporation and Prairie Oil and
Gas Company have been def
nitely discontinued because Of
inability to agree on terms salts
factory to both parties, Harry r.
Sinclair, chairman Of the board
Of the former company, an
nounced today.
Negotiations for the merger
have been underway for more
than a year. The plan was for a
combination Of Sinclair, Prairie
Oil and Gas Company and Prairie
Pipe Line Company. Negotiations
also were being carried on for
inclusion Of Tide Water AsSoci-
ated Oil Company.
The first inkling that there was
any hitch to the plan came
from q statement made earlier
this week by w. S. Fitzpatrick,
chairman Of Prairie Oil and Gas.
He said:
II feel we are farther from
agreement now than / thought
we were some time ago."
Pine Line COmnany Sold
Sinclair in July sold its half
interest in the Sinclair Pipe Line
Company and Sinclair Crude Oil
Purchasing Company, to the
Standard Oil Company Of Indi-
ana. Standard of Indiana owned
the other half interest. Standard
paid Sinclair $72,5O0,000 in cash.
This was believed at the time
to have paved the way for the
Prairie-Sinclair merger, as the two
Prairie companies would bring to
the merger a crude oil purchasing
and q pipe line companies.
It is not known whether the
negotiations will be resumed at
some later date, or Sinclair will
seek to unite with some other
company. In this connection ne
gotiations now being carried on
between Tide Water Associated
and Richfield Oil Company Of
California, is another merger
prospect,
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
Exports of Wheat
Best 1929 Levels

NEW YORK, Nov. 13.-Wheat,
including flour, exports from the
United States and Canada for the
week ending November 8 were
6,851 AS bushels against $500, ,0O6
bushels last week and 6,225, ,120
bushels in the like week a year
ago.
For the 10 weeks ending Novera-
Der 6, wheat exports were 157 7,346,-
061 bushels, against 112,O29. .354
bushels in the corresponding
period a year ago.
Corn exports for the week were
1922 bushels, against 5,118 bushels
last week and 21,184 bushels Ia
the like week a year ago.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
Head of Ford Ltd.
Tells Business Gain

Sir Percival Perry, European
director of the Ford Motors Co.,
Ltd; Maurice Dollful, French d.
rector, and DR.. Karl Wilhelm
Hauss, German director. arrived
here aboard the Lloyd line Bre-
men. Commenting upon the cur
rent business outlook Of Ford in
Europe, Sir Percival stated that
in all countries, with the excep-
tion of italy, where the Ford COM
panies were operating, business to
date was running ahead of last
year.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
MART SHOWS
|TSSTRENGTH
by RALLY
Terrific Bearish Pressure
Leaves Market Unaffected;
Trend Upward Is Belief
The market has answered
BY THE SPECTATOR

BY THE SPECTATOR
the question Of whether it
had a rally left after the
battering it has been taking
for the last two weeks.
Stocks came back strongly
yesterday after many had
hit new lows for the year.
Rufnors that a certain
situation" has been cleaned
UP, advance in copper prices
and strength in the grain
markets all helped. It looks
as though the rally may go
a bit further, but I wouldn't
Jump in and buy. I can't
see enough in it to warrant
the risk. There is still
plenty of time to buy stocks.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
PGnter Wins Suit
In Presser Patent

PHILADELPHIA,N Nov. l3
U.PD.-Victory was scored by the
Pantex Pressing Machine Com
pany, Pawtucket, r. l., in litiga-
tion with the United States Hoff-
man Machinery Company, of Viii
mington, Del, over two patents for
a suction drier for garment press
ing machines, when the United
States Circuit Court Of Appeals
ruled the patents were invalid and
the Pantex Company not an in
fringer.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
FOB. Products
Soar 9 Per Cent

Tabulation of the census Of
manufacturers for 1929 shows
that American manufacturers
turned out goods valued at $685..
ass, 3,468,5l8, FOB. tory
prices. This is an increase Of 9
per cent over 1927, the last
preceding year.
The number of wage earnerS
increased "a per cent from 8,349..
755 to 0,55O,2S4 and wages, SO
per cent from $10,848, 802,S32 to
$1l.271.O16,618.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
Paris Banking Firm
Is in BdH1krUptcy

PARIS, Nov. 13.-Benard Freres
and Gle, a private bank Of con-
siderable Importance before the
war. has been admitted to judicial
liquidation. Difficulties arose
after the death of Marcel Bernard.
Despite the efforts Of the sur
viving brother, Georges, who is
now with Interstate Equities, it
was found advisable to apply to
the courts. Amount Involved is
about 10O,000,000 francs. Small
creditors have already been paid.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
Stock Speculation
Cuts STAMP Income

Sharp curtailment of stock
speculation has cut the Treas
ury's stamp tax revenue from
stock transfers almost in half,
compared with last year, it was
learned.
In the quarter ended Septem.
ber 80, taxes amounted to $6,606,-
548, against $11,920,6e6. Tax col
lections on bonds and new issues
Of stock dropped from $685.
420 to $4,812,649.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
The COppers

The copper stocks were re-
juvenated by the announcement
that, the price of the red metal
has been advanced to 10 cents a
pound. This is evidence that
copper producers have gotten, to,
gether on curtailment of world
production, and is welcome in
view Of the small decline in do
mestic output in October and the
increase Of stocks on hand.
Kennecott gave relatively the
best; performance while all others
gained substantially. But don't
get excited about the coppers
yet. They certainly are cheap
If you are ready to be patient for
q couple Of years or so; but. re-
member that no producer is 60
ing to get rich on 10 or even II
cent copper, and there are still
more. than 100000 tons above
ground ''''--
Radio is apparently lacking any
kind of aggressive market spon-
sorship. It sank to a new low
for the year at 1919 and was a
"sick pup" even when the rest
of the market turned strong.
There has been a lot of dis.
gusted selling in Radio due to its
poor earnings report for the nine
months, showing a big deficit
after dividend requirements.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
Budd Wheel Deal
Held Up bu Court

NEW YORK, Nov. 13 1NS0.
A temporary Injunction and re-
straining order was entered
against the Trend Trading Serv-
ice, Inc, as a corporation and
E. e. Schmedt, as an individual,
by Supreme Court Justice L. L.
Fawcett, as a result of alleged i'm
proper dealings in pool to boost
Budd Wheel, Inc, stock. ..,.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
Better Auto Demand
SnLLrS Sheet Plants

Makers of steel sheets in
youngstown district are feeling
effects from resumption of auto
mobile plants. Buying has i'm
proved for flat rolled steels.
The Washington times., 1930-11-13
American Telephone

Few believed that Telephone
would break 180, at which level
it yields 5 per cent exclusive of
its frequent rights, yet it did
yesterday, dropping to 1874. The
manner in which it rallied,
jumping 9 points from it's low,
supports talk of bear pressure.
Still lot of the selling In this
premier stock has been forced by
liquidation of impaired accounts
plus some frightened selling. The
bears still say they are going to
put it much lower, insisting that
it is out Of line on earnings. Net
for the year is estimated at $11
a share. Yet 7 can't get bearish
on Telephone on per cent
basis. This is one dividend that
seems absolutely safe. But no one
should buy Telephone or any
stock these days for that matter,
unless the transaction is prac-
tically cash.
The bears are certainly gun
ming after somebody in Fox.
There is said to be a big block
of stock over-hanging the mar
ket, and the bad boys" tits re-
ported, are after this. Fox's rally
yesterday looked as though few
shorts were caught mapping.
There is apparently a real
''scrap" in the stock, however,
and it would be wise to avoid it
for the time being.
Erie
There has been quite a battle
in Erie for several weeks. Bears
have put out some heavy short
lines, StresSing poor earnings,
while bankers are said to have
been supporting the stock. The
bears scored yesterday by knock
ing it off about 4 points to
" new low. Erie's showing for the
year hasn't been encouraging,
net for the nine months being
Only a few cents a share. There
has been some switching from
Erie to other stocks, especially to
Chesapeake and Ohio. The lat
ter for some time has been sell
ing less than 10 points higher,
pays a $3.50 dividend and is
earning better than 81, Erie
pays nothing.