Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1930-10-24

May 10 or 10, ana asked MIN WnaC
articles had been stolen from his home
by Barrere. He said Campbell listed
suit of clothes, an alarm clock, some
candy and other things. The witness
said he asked Campbell if he had missed
pair of gloves. He quoted the real
estate man as saying he believed he
had. Kelly asked Campbell whether
he would know the gloves should he
see them. Kelly said Campbell replied
he could identify his gloves because
they were covered with grease and oil
and were skinned" about the thumbs
and forefingerS. The witness said he
then told Campbell he had in his pos
session pair of gloves which had been
taken from a catch basin on the Agri-
culture Experimental Farm, near where
Miss Bakers body was found, and asked
Campbell to visit police headquarters
to identify them. He said Campbell
came to headquarters that night.
did they fit on Campbell's hands?"
Collins inquired.
Pretty well, yes, sir" Kelly answered.
Tells About Gun.
The witness said he next saw Camp
bell, June 8, at the Department of
Justice. He reported Campbell said at
that time that Barrere had no oppor-
tunity to steal his pistol April 10, while
he was examining Campbell's. home to
make plans to paint it. Kelly said
Campbell explained Barrere might have
entered the house through a side win
dow and removed the revolver from its
hiding place in a dresser.
Campbell said Barrere came to his
house at 4:45 or 5 o'clock April IL, and
signed painting contract. He repeated
he believed Barrere was the man who
killed Mary Paker."
Kelly then quoted Campbell as having
repeated at that time a story about a
man with wart on his nose visiting his
home while the search for Barrere was
in progress and asking him whether he
had pistol. Kelly declared Campbell
said he went home to get the revolver
in order that the mysterious stranger
might examine it, but the pistol was not
there.
Campbell said" Kelly related, when
he returned to his Office the man was
gone. He said he then became sus-
picious and began searching for the
pistol in his Office. He told us he found
it in drawer of an unused desk"
The witness said Campbell declared
when asked how Barrere could have
used the pistol and managed to get in
his Office to return it that Barrere might
have reached in the window and put it
in the desk on any of several occasions
which he visited the miniature golf
course near Campbells Office.
Hadn't Loaned Gun.
When asked If this story was not
very fantastic" Kelly testified, Camp
bell SAID: If you told me that same
story, any of you gentlemen. wouldn't
believe it myself, but it is the truth"
Kelly then told of an interview with
Campbell June II at which william G.
Cloth, commonwealths attorney of Ar
lington County, informed the defendant
ballistics experts had identified Camp
bells weapon as having been used in
the Staying.
Cloth asked him." Kelly said, 'if
he had loaned the gun to any one and
he said he had not"
Kelly testified he asked Campbell, July
4, to tell of his movements April IL. He
quoted the defendant as having de-
clared he was in his Office most of the
afternoon from l until 4:30 o'clock, ex-
cept for several trips to Washington on
business. He said Campbell reported
he left his office about 4:30 O'Clock, and
since he had no maid at home and his
wife worked, prepared the evening meal.
Kelly said Campbell said he stayed
home until after dinner, leaving at
about 1880 o'clock to take his boy to
and Park road. The witness said Camp
bell added he stopped in Washington long
enough to buy a package Of razor blades
and then went to his Office for a short
while before going home.
1t was on this OCCASION, Kelly testified
that Campbell asked him whether he
believed the story about the man with
the wart on his nose. The witness said
he failed to answer the question.
Had Service Over Seas.
He said Campbell then shouted:
If you don't believe my story, then,
damn it, I'll never work with you or
any other Washington detective on this
case"
1t was on July 81, Kelly said, when he
asked Campbell where he was born.
He said" the witness testified, che
was born in Alexandria and had lived
in Arlington County all his life since
1912, except for the time he spent on
the Mexican border during the trouble
down there and over seas during the
war. He said he was not wounded or
gassed, but saw service in France.
II asked him again 10 tell me where
he was April II. He said he remained
in his Office all afternoon, without leav-
ing, waiting on young lady to call to
see him on business. He said he went
home late in the afternoon and pre-
pared dinner, and that his wife arrived
home at $40. He said, after eating din
ner, he left home to drive his boy to
Scout meeting. He said when he
passed Fourteenth and U streets, he
noticed a clock said 7:20.
He said he returned to his real
estate office and then went home.
told him: Herbert there is a slight dis
crepancy in your story. On July 4, you
told me that April ii you were in your
Office all afternoon except on several
were in your Office all the time that
BE More Explicit"
Herbert 1 said, we have checked
on you pretty closely and you are
not telling the truth. Now sit back
in your chair, light a cigarette and
relax. I want you to take it easy now
and remember just where you were
and what you did that afternoon and
tell me all about it. I want the truth
HE smoked cigarette and then re-
peated he had been telling the truth all
| the time, SO told him to tell me who
| the woman was that he was parked with
on the cemetery road, near the spot
where Miss Bakers body was found, the
afternoon of April IL. He said: BE
more explicit
81 told him, I will be more explicit
I mean the same woman you drove to
! her apartment on Nineteenth street
after parking with her on the Cemetery
road. mean the same woman you