The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1930-05-16
7BRTTON TRIMS GLENNA COLLETT IN GOLF FINALS
TALKING
IT OVER
By JOE WILLIAMS

n OUlSVlILE, May 1b.-Ine Earl
IL of Sande, frail, wisp OF
man, now in mis- early thirties, sat
in his room in one of the midtown
hotels, wearing tan dressing gown
tightly belted at the waist, and
talked with me about the business
Of racing in general, the forthcom-
ing Derby in particular, and now
and then, under pressure, about
himself.
- The Earl OF sande. sandy-haired. blue
eyed, round faced and freckled. will be
: aboard Gallant Fox in Saturdays big races
he will be shooting not only for victory
on that day. but for the distinction of
riding his third derby winner. Only one
other Jockey in the history Of the event
has ever done that-a little Negro boy
+ anonymously named Isaac Murphy.
The Earl Of sande thinks he can do 1t.
{ They've given me q good boss and If
he runs his race we ought to win"
: What If the track is muddy as it
! threatens to be?"
. The Earl of sande didn't think that
. would make a great deal Of difference.
Il worked the colt in the mud the other
day and 1 thought was able to tell that
! he will run Just as well in the mud as
{ on the dry.
1T was the FIRST time I had ever been
. on him in the mud and he ran as if he
liked it,
TTOW does The Fox rate with
i i Zev and Flying Ebony, the two
other 3-year-olds he had ridden to
victory in Derby races gone by? The
: Earl nf Sande wasn't prepared to
: say. For one thing The Fox IS not
an even dispoSitioned colt. He is
inclined to be temperamental, and
sulky. This can be either a good
or bad sign in high strung thor
oughbred. Mostly it is bad sign.
!. a n
Il find that you have TO let this colt
have his own way pretty much. When he
wants to run you must let him 20 whether
II is at the first turn or the last. The
most unusual characteristic about him is
his inclination TO stop on you once he is
out in front. He seems to think his work
: Is done after he has taken the lead
: That's why II is best to hold him back as
long as possible. and this is not always
. easy to do"
The Earl of Sande thinks Tannery is the
, boss he has to beat. Il watched him work
) and he seems TO have lot Of power and.
speed" He thinks Crack Brigade is over
strained and was at his best in the Freak
ness. Uncle Luther has to be considered.
especially in the mud. Hes better colt
than most people think"
VXTHAT happens during the run
Wv ming of a big race? What
does the jockey do to help his mount
get down there in front? well
there isn't much a jockey can do
except watch for openings at the
turns and try to save as much
ground as he can. An important
thing is to keep the colt running,
and the best way to do this is to
try to win his confidence"
Here the Earl of Sande said: 81 al
ways carry on a conversation with the
boss I'm Kidding. 1 suppose I'm little
bit crazy, but 1 have a notion that the
bosses sort of understand and that in
the mad rush around the track it is COM
forting to them to know they have
friend along"
what do I say to them? oh. any,
thing I happen to think Of. In the
Preakness last week I kept on telling the
>sax. not to worry. to keep after 'em.
bay head close to his ear and was
tasWhg to him all the way down the
stretch don't think it did any harm.
At any rate we won"
u Il
L Asst year the Earl of Sande hung
IL up his tack, announced he was
through as rider, bought stable
and went into the racing business as
trainer and owner. He did pretty
well, considering what he had to
work with. But the adventure was
too costly and when his star, Mas
sack, broke down he sold out and
came back to the saddle, a loser by
about $4,000.
II didn't quit riding because l wanted
to- was getting heavy and the con-
slant making of weight telling on
my health. 1 find now 1 can make III
pounds naturally and at this weight ]
can ride in all the stake races. If
don't get any heavier 1 plan TO keep on
riding as long as 1 can"
THE EARL OF SANDE THEN RE-
CALLED THAT SOME OF THE OLD
TIME JOCKEYS USED TO RIDE UNTIL
THEY WERE FIFTY AND PAST. "ONE
OF THESE DAYS YOU FELLOWS WILL
BE WRITING ABOUT OLD MAN SANDE
TRYING TO WIN ANOTHER DERBY"
HE LAUGHED.