Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1930-01-03

turned to the matter of the taking of
a stenographic record in the grand
jury room. Collins was asked If he
had been requested by the grand jury
to explain the reasons for this act, and
he replied in the affirmative
What reasons did you give them?"
Two Reasons Given.
IT detailed two reasons. Because of
the many cross currents of this inves-
tigation the District attorney felt it
would be advisable to take steno-
graphic record Of the proceedings.
told the grand jury 1t was being taken
SO that they might, at the conclusion of
the hearings, review the testimony if
they should desire to do so, and also to
keep an accurate record of all testimony
so that the grand jury might be able to
institute perjury proceedings against
any witness II they should conclude that
such step was desirable"
Did you at any time tell the grand
jury this record might be used in pos
sible Police Trial Board proceedings
against any particular witness or wit
neSses?"
mo, and the grand jury's report in
that respect was an absolute lie"
Mr.. Quinn then read from the report
the following section, which Collins de-
scribed as false:
Upon the opening of this investiga-
ton several members Of the District
attorneys office were observed to be
present IN the grand fury room making
a stenographic record Of the proceed
ngs. Asked for an explanation, the
assistant District attorney in charge
(Collins) answered that it was to be
used In possible perjury proceedings
against certain witness before the
Police Trial Board"
Mr.. Quinn had hardly finished read
ing this section before Collins ex-
claimed: THAT is a lie"
The assistant district attorney testi-
fled he could not recall that Shelby had
been asked any questions relative to the
lights and windows in the Mcpherson
apartment. He also denied tina. the
word "bungling" was used in the grand
jury room.
referring to the charge that Shelby,
III violent manner, demanded that the
grand jury indict Allen and Mrs. Heav-
rim for perjury, Collins explained this
request was made after it had been in
dicated to Shelby that Allen and Mrs.
Heavrin had told the grand Jury con-
Trajectory stories, and had made state
ments directly disputing his testimony.
Describes "Tirades."
Collins then undertook a description
of Aliens frequent appearances before
the grand jury, and in response to a
question concerning the policemans at
titude toward the department he said,
Eyes, Allen was continually delivering
TRADE against the police" He also
told Of an incident when he asked Allen
why he had not told the district attor-
ney or having seen a man on the roof
adjoining the Mcpherson apartment
Because I did not think 1t was an
opportune time for me to make nv
grandstand play" he quoted Allen as
answering.
Jurors Asked Mercy.
Launching into a description of the
grilling Robert A. Mcpherson. ir.. was
put through by the grand jury, Collins
said the husband was shown no mercy
until several members of the jury, who
openly told other members what they
thought OF this brutal treatment Of this
particular Witness" made strenuous. OBJ
JectionS. He said particular resentment
was aroused by the tests Mcpherson
was put through to prove that it was
impossible for him to have thrown a
dress over his wife's body in the man.
ner in which he claimed to have done
So
Collins attention was then directed to
the appearance before the jury OF Mrs
ISOy vi IlTSL appearance,
he said, she told of hearing screams, but
said specifically that she had heard no
names mentioned on the night Mrs, Nc
Pherson was killed. He then described
the manner in which she changed her
testimony at her second appearance.
This time, he declared. she said she had
forgotten to tell the jury about a wom-
ans voice, which she heard saying, "Oh,
Bob. you're, killing me. Please, Bob,
don't do it,"
Collins testified that Mrs. Heayrin
on her first appearance before the
grand jury was very belligerent and
antagoniStic" Ill her attitude toward
Allen. She said Collins declared, that
Allen came to her apartment and tried
70 impress on her that she was an I'M
portant witness III the Mcpherson case,
the outcome OF which would have great
bearing on his future career. Mrs.
Heavrin, Collins continued, declared
that Allen grasped her by the arm and
pressed it so severely that 1t panied her
and she finally got rid of him" by
telling him to come back the following
day. Mrs. Heavrin said, however, ac-
cording to Collins. that Allen did not
return.
Collins then related two different