Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-12-20

Kelly ABOUT IL anu TIC IcplltQ 10 ucE.
"Oh, forget it," Allen said Mrs. HeaVrin
had told him.
Attorney Quinn had to refresh Aliens
memory about finding the pajama trou-
sers on the Mcpherson bed and hand
kerchief as we'll as other minor details.
Allen caused considerable surprise when
he declared he understood the cord
found around Mrs. McPherSon'S neck
was the cord of the pajama jacket and
not of the trousers. He said he had
that impression at one time and under
repeated questioning said emphatically:
Il now have the conviction that 1t was
the cord from the jacket"
He couldn't tell how long he has
been under that impression, whether 1t
was before the second grand jury in
veStigation or not.
Attorney Quinn expressed surprise
that a man of Aliens experience could
not retain more definite impression.
Allen disclaimed being a trained OBJ
server" and said he had had very little
experience before the Mcpherson case.
when you went up against Kelly you
knew that you were up against very
experienced MANI" Quinn asked.
Yes" Allen replied.
The defense attorney insisted that AL
len must have taken unusual precau-
tons to fix everything in his own mind
in bucking the Police Department.
THE exact truth of the matter is
never thought there was very much to
that cord business" Allen later de-
Clared He said his recollection about
that and other minor details was too
hazy for him to speak with certainty.
II: you ask me about something impor-
tant I can tell you accurately" he in
sisted.
Question of Sincerely.
The former policeman was asked if
he was speaking his honest opinion
when he made his first address at the
Washington Auditorium on December /,
He replied that he assumed So"
Reading extracts from Aliens address
on this occasion, in which he told how
man had gotten of street car and
walked to the Park Lane Apartment,
Quinn continued the reading-"and
quarreled with his wife as he had fire.
quently done"
did say that?" Allen asked in ap-
parent surprise.
''Do-yo want to apologize for that
nowP" quinn fired at him. Allen NUT
tered something under his breath.
you don't want to do Mcpherson
an injustice, do your" Quinn asked.
IT could not" Allen replied.
According to Aliens speech that
night, he said Mrs. Mcpherson was
strangled with cord taken from the
pajama trousers.
Allen insisted, however, upon further
questioning that it was his conviction
1t was the jacket cord and added that
he was not prepared to state when
he learned that.
When Quinn made some reference to
Aliens method Of answering questions
the former policeman explained: up
to the time I was discharged from the
police force was conscientious public
servant. After my discharge my at
titude has changed" he said.
"Oh, you departed from your former
Quinn asked.
Indeed have" Allen replied. 'T
have very little conscience now in deal
ing with people. I'm looking out for
Robert j. Allen"
Allen said he found it convenient
sometimes to forget things when it
serves his purpose.
do you mean you would perjure
yourSelf?" asked Quinn.
"Oh, no." Allen replied.
"Then you just have a very con-
venient memory" the defense attorney
Protects pet Theories"
Allen went on. to explain that he
wanted to protect his pet theories"
when necessary. and also his own IN
tereStS IL he ever wanted to seek en-
ployment.
He indicated that his attitude was
very much like the defense attorneys.
Quinn replied rather emphatically
that he was there "in the interests of
justice and to get fair hearing" for
Shelby and Kelly.
We'll" Allen replied resignedly, I'm
departed from being good safe public
to become the same kind OF
man as my good former associates
Shelby and Kelly"
The witness was asked II he had ever
told the police officials about the man
ne is alleged to have seen climbing from
the window of the Park Lane. Allen
said he did not tell them or anybody
else about it at the time except Police
man Bolts, his partner. Did you not
trust Shelby and Kelly?" Quinn de-
Il should say not" Allen replied
quickly.
Nor did you trust Capt Stott?"
"I should say not" he replied.
Allen said he had impaired the in
to The Evening Star and
certain others because he respected
their confidence. He reiterated that his |
reason for not telling the two police |
officials was because He had not con-
ddence in them"
During one of his exchanges with |
Quinn, Allen remarked, IF I |
had you with me before the second |
grand jury investigation would have |
gotten another verdict in my favor"
The witness denied an interview |
obtained by Ralph Palmer in the News |
in which Allen was quoted as saying |
he was great admirer Of both Shelby |
and Kelly" and also with having said |
Il wish I had gone to them with my |
murder evidence instead of making a |
grandstand play"
II did not say that, and you know I |
did not" he replied vigorously after |
having given several evaSive answers |
Allen was excused at this point.
To BE Recalled.
He was served with notice that his |
presence on the witness stand would be |
necessary later in the day. Explaining !
that he had to go out into Virginia on |
a case. Allen said he would make every |
possible effort to reappear this after |
noon.
A recess was taken then and when |
the trial board resumed, Prosecutor !
Fowler called for Mr.. and Mrs. Heavrin. |
Mrs. Heavrin appeared before the |
BOARD accompanied by Counsel T. Morris |
Wampler.
Wampler explained that witnesses |
would refuse to testify, first on the |
ground that they had not been properly |
served with subpeonas and secondly the !
trial board had no authority under law |
TO compel them to testify"
Mr.. Fowler said the prosecution had |
no desire to compel Mrs. Heavrin. who |
was the first witness called, but as she
was there she could testify or not as |
she wished
Maj. Atkins started to give the oath |
TO Mrs. Heavrin, but she interrupted
in the middle: IT refuse to take an
oath and I refuse to testify" she said.
And I object to her being sworn