Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-12-22

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"A. (By Allen) Well, I will so far
as my memory goes.
q. I know, but here you we're
"A. You see. Just q minute. May
I explain something to the board? I
want to clarity your mind on this point.
q. What is that?
"A. want to straighten up your
mind on a few details. / mean In re-
gard to my attitude. Up until
q. Wait. I want this to be re-
sponSive to what have asked you.
"A. Yes, sir; indeed.
%. In reference to these pajama
pants.
"A. I think my manner of testify
ing-I have to make an explanation to
the board. Up until the time I was
discharged from the police force I was
= thoroughly conscientious fellow, try
ing TO remember everything exactly.
@. You have not changed since you
left the police force, have you?
"A. Yes. indeed.
g. Haven't YOU any conscience
now? a
"A. Very little when am dealing
with people of your type.
Allen Looking Out" for Self.
@. What have you against me? I
am defending this man.
"A. l have learned that such an at
titude Is detrimental to my own good
1 am looking after Robert j. Allen now.
not the public or Mrs. Mcpherson, or
anybody else.
g. When you are here now. having
changed since you left the police force
from conscientious man to one who is
looking out for Robert j. Allen, You are
not here telling the truth about this
thing?
IA Yes, sir, I am telling the truth,
but when it comes to telling the truth,
am going TO do like the rest Of the po-
lice force, l am going to forget.
q. Are you going to perjure your
self II 1t might help Inspector Shelby?
"A. My memory has got that trick.
g. Then your memory Is Q con-
venient memory, according to whether
remembering things will help you or
hurt you?
"A. Inspector Shelby can give YOU a
good explanation of that kind of q
memory. Ask him about that
e. The board Is waiting to hear
"A. They will get it, providing the
truth would not destroy any of my pet
ideas Or my chances OF q livelihood or
When the reading Of the passage
had been completed Chairman Atkins
asked If he had any corrections to make
and If he thought the transcript had
quoted him correctly.
Yes. SIR" Allen replied. IT think
that's all right. But / didn't say any
thing there about not telling the truth.
Do you, Mr.. Chairman, see anything In
there TO the effect that was going to
lie?"
Testines for Kelly.
The defense objected TO Aliens re-
marks and said the record would speak
for itself. Chairman Atkins announced
that the board would judge the matter
from what was in the record
There was a brief pause and then
Quinn announced that Allen had re-
quested to be called as a character
witness for Lieut. Kelly and inquired
OF the witness II he still desired to
do SO
Yes, I'll do that Allen responded.
How long have you known Lieut..
Kelly?" the attorney asked.
About couple OF years, / guess"
Allen said.
Can you testify as to his character
and reputation In the community"
Il can testify about him personally.
! want to say that up to the Mcpherson
case l always had q high regard for Ed
Kelly. Personally I think a great deal
OF him. So far as know his reputation
and character were good up until this
case, and so far as l know they still
are. Eds a good IriShman. I liked him
like him"
Aliens statements created consider
able amusement on the part Of nearly
every one In the room, with the excep-
ton Of Kelly, who did not smile, but
looked intently at the former policeman.
Allen then was excused Indefinitely,
with the announcement by the board
that he would be subject to recall.
Mcknight was not ut all RELUCTANT to
testify, despite the actions earlier in the
afternoon OF his colleagues OH the grand
jury.
Questioned as to the extent of Kellv's
statements to the grand jury Mcknight
said he couldn't remember whether the
detective had testified about windows.
nights or hngerprintS In the bed room Of
the Mcpherson apartment, but he re-
called testimony by Kelly about the
blood spot on the bath room floor and
OF The heutenantS attempt to test the
blood by removing the tiles Of the floor
for examination. He corroborated
DAiNAbkC LCoLHHOuy Vi FTlQal 10 Tile ell
fect that two black dresses were shown
the grand jury In its search for the gar
ment which covered the body of the
Strangled nurse, but did not substan-
tiate Chances statement that Kelly had
identified the wrong one.
Tells Of Visit to Apartment.
II wouldn't say Lieut.. Kelly was posi-
tive that the first dress shown him
was the correct one" Mcknight said.
Il believe he said 1t was Q dress like
the one shown him"
Mcknight told of Q visit to the Nc.
PherSOn apartment in company with
other jurors and of seeing trunk in
the bedroom with the contents scat
tered around. He declared that Kelly
had been asked II it were possible to
See 2 man climbing out OF the apart
ment window. as Allen had stated, and
that Kelly said 1t was impossible.
In response to further questions by
the prosecution Mcknight said that
Inspector Shelby BECAME excited In
the grand jury room over testimony
given by Mrs. Heayrin, 2 resident OF the
Park Lane, and that he raised his fist
and said. that damnable Heavrin
woman"
did you hear anything said to the
effect that Mrs. Heavrin and Allen
should be indicted for perjury" Fowler
asked.
II don't remember anything about
Allen being mentioned" he said.
said: Inspector Shelby said he felt
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