Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-05-09

forces in the Senate yesterday after
noon is widely discussed today, but
principally from the point of view of a
blow at President Hoover and his pres
tige in Congress. The President OPP
posed the debenture fatty In a letter
which he sent to the Senate committee
on agriculture just before 1t reported
the farm bill containing debenture to
the Senate. The Presidents denuncia-
ton of the debenture plan was signal
for a division over the plan on party
lines, so far as the Democrats we're con-
cerned. They held party caucus and
discussed the matter from every angle
In the end, all except four Democratic
Senators were aligned for the deben-
ture, although some of them, like Sena-
tor Copeland of New York, "held their
noses" when they voted for it,
The vote in the Senate yesterday,
coming on motion by Senator Watson,
Republican leader, to strike debenture
from the bill, stood A for the motion
and Al against. Forty-two Republican
Senators voted against debenture and
two Democrats did the same. Thirty
four Democrats and thirteen Republi-
cans voted for debenture Two Demo-
Gratis were paired against debenture
and one Democrat and one Farmer
Labor Senator were paired in favor of
1t. complete record of the sentiment
OF the Senate, therefore was obtained,
showing 40 Senators in favor of deben-
ture and As against it. There is one
in the Senate from Pennsyl-
vania, Senator-elect Ware never having
been seated.
Borah Favored Plan.
The IS Republican Senators who
voted for debenture and against the
of the President yes
terday were: Blaine, Borah, Brookhart,
Frazier, Howell. johnson. La Toilette,
Norbeck, Norris, Nye, Pine
and Schall.
The two Democrats who voted against
debenture and the two were paired
against 1t were Senators Ransdell of
Louisiana, and Wagner of New York,
and Senators King of Utah and Walsh
Of Massachusetts,. Even had not these
TWO Democratic opponents of debenture
not agreed to pair" with Senators
Kendrick of Wyoming, and Shipstead
If Minnesota. the vote would still have
been short of tie and possible VIC
5ory by the administration with the
support of Vice President Curtis under
such circumstances.
The effect of the fiat turn down by
he Senate of President Hoover in this
first important vote since the beginning
# the special session may have its bear
ng on future legislative battles. Re-
publican insurgents and Democrats alike
insist there has been coalition between
he two groups established-except in
support of debenture. But the fact |
hat the two groups have banded to-
yether to overthrow the administration !
iorces in this case makes it easier. 1t
s said, for them to do the same thing |
n the future. A great battle is eX-
1ected in the Senate over the tariff bill. |
The desire of President Hoover has been |
20 limit the revision. All kinds of |
20 voting on the various schedules. |
Here again there may be danger to the |
administrations plans from recall |
itrant Senate. It is obviously too early, |
however, to predict just what the atti- |
ude of these groups will be toward the |
ariff. or that they will find 1t possible |
o unite.
Fight May Be Renewed.
In some quarters the President was
for coming out against the !
iebenture as he did, on the ground that |
t merely tended to Solidify Democratic |
opposition to him in this fight. In |
,thers it was pointed out that had he |
Der of Republicans who did support him |
night have been found voting for de- |
oenture. There was disposition in still |
)ther quarters to criticise the President |
ior not announcing his opposition to |
he debenture when a subcommittee of
The Senate committee on agriculture |
first called on him to ask his views on !
he plan. It is doubtful, however, that
the result yesterday would have been
changed materially had he done SO.
If the House should decline to receive
the debenture amendment from the
Senate on constitutional grounds, or If
the debenture is finally beaten in the
House, the fight over 1t Is likely to be
in connection with the tariff
bill. Several of the Senators supporting
among them Senator Borah,
have held that it should properly be
in connection with the tariff
anyway.
The Senate had the farm bill before
It today for further consideration. Now
hat the debenture plan is out of the
way it is expected that. the measure
will be completed today or tomorrow
and sent to the House. A number of
amendments are still to be
however, among them one
offered by Senator Copeland of New
York, Democrat. to eliminate from the
operation Of the bill fruits and vege-
,ables. Senator Jones of Washington
remained in the Senate yesterday to
East his vote against debenture, although
ne was taken i'll.