Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-09-21


entrants, and the in set shows Capt. FRI
ity?" asked Senator Robinson.
"Mr. Workman" was the reply.
Did you approve him." asked Sen
ator Robinson.
NO"
did Mr.. Grace approve m, or did
you ask Mr.. Grace to approve him,
asked Senator Robinson.
The witness replied shortly that he
did not have to suggest such things to
Mr. Grace.
Senator Robinson asked the witness
II he had taken any action in regard
to the employment of Shearer and the
reply was that it had been left TO Mr.
Grace.
Did you make any investigation OF
the matter" asked Senator Robinson.
Mo- said Mr.. Schwab, that would
have been bad organization work" He
said that Mr.. Grace was the proper
channel fer him to take such action
You were not interested enough to
follow this up" asked Senator Rob-
inSon.
Makes Sharp Reply.
Mr.. Schwab apparently incensed at
the method of investigation replied
sharply:
7 hope we are going to do this in a
gentlemanly manner"
This reused Senator Robinson.
Il have called your attention to two
| instances in which you say the policy
OF your company was violated. / have
asked you whether you took any action
in these matters. You appear to con-
slider this question offensive
1T is not offensive to me-" replied
Mr.. Schwab.
Apparently attempting to lecture
me-" continued Senator Robinson.
Mr.. Schwab denied that he was doing
so.
Then please refrain from lecturing
me-" said Senator Robinson, red in the
face.
And me likewise" rejoined Mr.
Senator Robinson called attention to
the fact that in his testimony Mr.
Schwab had indicated that all battle
ships should be sunk
Il said that and believe that" said
Mr.. Schwab.
If you had been consulted about hav-
ing an observer at the Geneva con-
ference you would have opposed it,
asked Senator Robinson.
YES" said the witness.
clashed again when Mr.. Schwab was
asked about litigation which his COM
pany has with the Government regard
ing construction of ships for the Ship
ping Board during the World War
Senator Robinson asked about an eX-
penSe item in this connection set down
to &C. M. S." which are Mr.. SchwabS
initials
The matter had been given full
fNVIh fnif NJ
up" said Mr.. Schwab. He asked Sen
ator Robinson to withdraw the question,
since it had no bearing on the present
investigation.
You do not care to answer the ques-
tion?" said Senator Robinson.
No said Mr. Schwab, 1T has no
bearing on the investigation"
Mr.. Schwab told the committee that
his company was strongly opposed to
propanda and has not participated in it.
"Mr. Carnegie, your predecessor, was
strong for international peace" said
Senator Robinson.
Proud of Carnegie Policy.
Mr.. Schwab said that he was al
ways proud to carry on any policy OF
Mr.. Carnegie. He said that he had
been surprised at the employment OF
Shearer because 1t had not been the
policy of his company.
We do not permit political influence
by our managers and act to check II
effectively" said Mr.. Schwab.
Evidently not in the merchant
marine case" said Senator Robinson.
Il think action was taken," said Mr.
Schwab.
Mr. Schwab was asked what hc
thought of the wisdom of employing
Shearer up to 1929. Mr.. Schwab said
he would not discuss that, that thoss
who employed Shearer after 1929 were
friends of his and he would let them
speak for themselves.
E. G. Grace, president of the Bethle-
hem Ship Building Co., was called tC
the stand.
"Why did you send an observer te
Geneva" he was asked.
Mr. Grace replied that he did not
know that Shearer was being sent. He
also said that he did not meet Mr.
Shearer, never did meet him.
The first time that Mr.. Grace heard
the suggestion his company had beer
represented at the Geneva conference
was in December, 1927, he said. He
told the committee that a newspaper
reporter had asked him about the
rumor.
Il told the reporter we had no con-
NecJlOn WlCn Tie GENEVA conference,
said Mr. Grace. II was sure at that
time we did not and had nc
knowledge of such employment"
Rumor Heard Again.
The witness said that soon after that
the same rumor came to him. Then
he said he had 8. Workman, the vice
president in charge of shipbuilding OPP
erations, questioned about it.
1T ordered Mr.. Workman from
Quincy, Mass, where the shiphuilding
yards are, to New York at once" said
Mr.. Grace.
did you rebuke him for the en-
ployment of Shearer?" Chairman Short
, ridge asked.
II told him it was rather unwise
and I was sorry it had been done ant
I could not approve" said Mr.. Grace
1T is against the policy of our COM
pany to participate in matters relating
to the naval and military affairs OF
the country. I personally am a great
believer in the limitation of arma-
ments."
HIDGE'C REDRTMA