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The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
Jack Strives
to Find Foe
for Mandell
Dempsey Seeks to Develop
Worthy Opponent for
King of LightWeightS.
BY BERT DENNY
United Press STAFF Correspondent

CHICAGO, Oct. :3.-To carry out
his intentions of staging several
championship matches, Jack Demp-
sey, IN his new role as a promoter. is
determined to build up an opponent
for Sammy Mandell, lightweight
title holder.
Realizing there is now no one 10
draw championship money with
Mandell, Jack is devoting his entire
show on Oct. 80 to lightweightS in the
hope that he can get some likely
prospects out of it.
Headlining the card will be Tony
Canzoneri and Stan Loayza, the
Chilean. Canzoneri recently gave
Mandell the scare of the champions
life in a title bout here and Tony
is clamoring for a return match.
Loayza, Dempsey believes, is q
fit opponent for Tony.
The other FOUNDERS on Demp-
sey's Oct. 80 card find Kid Wolfe
fighting Kid Kaplan and Tony Her.
rera meeting Sid Terris.. The former
two are good fighters and are am
bilious to get into the running for
a chance at Mandell's title. This
boy, Herrera, Mexican, looks like
a real conner.
Terris has been advanced as an
opponent for Mandell, and he
probably will rate as favorite over
Herrera. But it would not be sur
prising to see Tony step in with
another one of those unexpected
victories.
Dempsey expects to fill the Coli
scum, which seats slightly more
than 10000, with the bill.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23

Prep school football fans of In
dianapolis will be forced to gain
their pigskin morsel this week either
in watching the Washington-Short-
ridge intra-city game or the Tech
Marion struggle, both to be played
Friday afternoon. Three of the
other local schools are playing their
weekend football engagements out
OF the city while two others are to
rest
Washington will be playing It's
third intra-city game of the season
Coach Henry Bogue's boys lost a
last minute decision early in the fall
to Tech, 1916, but later smothered
Manual by the topheavy score OF
$40. The west siders have scored
six wins against one loss this fall,
having defeated Bloomington, Kirk
lin, Broad Ripple, JefferSonville and
Rensselaer, by decisive scores.
Coach Goldsberry OF Shortr1dge
is driving his proteges hard for the
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
CUE MATCHES

Joe Murphy and Charles Carter
meet tonight in a state three-cush-
ion tourney match at Coolers par
lor. 1t will be the third match of
the new season.
Walter Ramsey defeated Frank
Hornbrook, so to IS, Tuesday night,
in seventy-six innings. The de-
feated cueist made strong finish.
Ramsey'S high run was six and
Hornbrook'S five.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
Light Heavy
Title Asked
RoSenbIoom Must Meet
Tommy for Crown.

BIZ Tinted Press
NEW YORK, Oct. 23.-Maxie
Rosenbloom, New York, must de-
feat Tommy Loughran, retired IT'S
yound champion, before the New
York athletic commission will
recognize him as Interchangeable
champion. RoSenbloom appeared
before the commission Tuesday and
fled formal claim to the title
vacated by Loughran, but the COM
mission refused him official
recognition.
Rosenbloon, who is regarded as
the leading claimant to the title,
has defeated Joe Sekyra, Jimmy
Slattery, Leo LomSki, Tiger Payne,
Phil Kaplan, Dave Shade and
George Courtney. He informed the
commission he was willing to meet
Loughran at &C +9h-weights FL was
advised that such procedure would
meet with the commissions ap-
DrOYal
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23

Off to a slow start, the Wolverines
gain power each week, and once in
their stride, may aid Purdue mater
tally by hating Illinois or Mime
sofa
Minnesota faces a tough assign
ment of four Big Ten games in a
row, against Indiana, Iowa, Mich
igan and Wisconsin. BY the time
the Gophers get to the last two,
some of their reserves may be called
upon to carry on.
Illinois, with their record marred
by a tie with Iowa, meets five
worthy foes on successive week
ends, starting with Michigan. Sat
urday, and following with North
western, Army, Chicago and Ohio
State. If Michigan doesn't stop
them, then Ohio State might. At
least, one possible contender will be
dropped in the Buckeye-Illini battle.
Ohio State, doped as a weak
sister, by preseason experts, has
set back Iowa and Michigan, and
has Indiana, Northwestern and Hi
nois yet to meet. Northwestern,
playing at Columbus the week after
the Buckeyes return from Pitts
burgh, may give Purdue break.
Meanwhile, Phelan is preparing
his eleven game for game. Chicago,
the nemesis of Pat Pages Indiana
team, holds a similar jinx over the
BoiIermakers, which was broken
soundly last year when WEIGH and
company carried off a 40 to 0 YER
dict.
With Yunevich on the sidelines,
Phelan must reconstruct his back
field, and seems to have made the
best shift by placing WEIGH at full
back and Kissell, a pony back, at
half. This shift will take some OF
the power from the Old Gold and
Black running attack providing the
husky Bicnkell does not recover In
time for Saturday action.
Chicago will present the toughest
line Purdue has faced this season,
and the power" backs which Stage
is developing will put the Phelan
forwards to a real test. Loss Of
Burgess, full back, may hurt the
Maroons. He was injured last
Saturday.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
PhiHy Catcher's
Death Is Probed;
Rites Thursday

Bp United Press
BALTIMORE, Oct. 23.-Walter
Lerian, catcher for the Philadelphia
National League baseball club, will
be buried here Thursday. Requiem
mass will be held at st. Martins
Catholic church. Members of the
Philadelphia team will attend.
Lerian died after being crushed
by motor truck in a traffic acct
dent. Drivers of both the truck and
the passenger car involved in the
accident have been ordered to ap-
pear at the inquest today.
Lerian was the second Philadel-
phia player to die here during the
past year, Frank Ulrich, Phillie
pitcher, having died suddenly last
winter.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
Barbuti Again
Asks A. A. u. for
enf

d NEW YORK, Oct. 23.-Ray Bar
butt, Olympic 40O-meter champion,
appeared at a closed meeting of the
registration committee of the A. A.
U. Tuesday night to present his case
and early reinstatement appeared
possible today.
He was suspended Feb. % for
making statements that tended to
bring the Amateur Athletic Union
and amateur athletics in general
into disrepute."
The case was discussed in secret
and a decision will not be an
nounced until the next meeting OF
the committee. After the meeting,
Barbuti told reporters he planned
to compete during the indoor season
if reinstated.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
Tu,o Iowa Stars
Face heEgibiHty

By United Press
IOWA CITY, Ia, Oct. 23.-Iowa
university'S football squad was in
hot water again today as result Of
the ruling that Oran Pape and
John Fihrman may be disqualified
for the second time on charges of
professionalism.
Both players appeared before the
eligibility committee Tuesday and
denied they played professional
football in october, 1926, with the
Dubuque Bears under assumed
names. Their status was taken I'M
der advisement.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
NO WINS-N0 SLAVES

Be- Tinted Press
BLOOMINGTON, Ind, Oct. 23.-
Some 800 be-whiskere Hoosier frat
men. sworn by all the solemnity of
college VOWS, not to shave their
whiskers until Indiana university
wins a football game, looked forward
In forlorn hope today as their pig
skin jugglers prepared for the tilt
with Ohio State Saturday.
Pat Page pushed his charges
through the bog Tuesday and to-
day, not too confident in the hope
that perhaps the change of climate
might alter the score sheet.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23

The MaEmon sales. 6 Gbf Goost cqm %oPS;
their session with the Losey- Nash. C. H,
Wallerich. state Auto Insurance and
Alsmite boys. as the indiana watkins n1 t aG3
the Pure OIL and Sinclair Refining IN the
Automotive League play at, the Illinois al
iFe orm to lead the boys Of this loop with
a total Of GIT on games OF 194. 223
and 2l0. Fred Myers copied single game
honorS with 23i count.
The Corn team took three from the Oats
as the Straw and Wheat won two from
the Hay and Rye in the Board Of Trade Trade
pIav with games of 212, 1913 and 20S. total
Of COS.
The HAYES Body team was the only club
h hsla 70 pl avn the hs'S g. FoSSaFy BOYS
Maqtin Pc ro Marmon Eight. Ballard Ice
Cream and Jewel Tea were on the ioSiipT 1S
end of two-out of three series WIN me me
Power and Light. Link Bet, and Crescent
PAPER. The Holcomb and Hoke team rolled
% Shoot ct SRsh sm INF 0f she aayeg
gam games sc Of Isl III. Isl and S28.
The vikings .and Marotts were the
Gil 81 K. P. by taking the entire series
were decided over the two-out three
route the Schmidt Insurance and Kirsch-
nsTLoyicS winning from the Tes sac tbs bes
total. getting SOL.
The success of last SUNDAYS singles 200
scratch sweepstakes at the Illinois in
which 100 entries rolled. has leo John
Beam to announce another one Of these
T 7Sasa of tbs sk ma Hs 1s the in
hs ast aSd the ne viii be 0
starting with this SUNDAYS play The en-
try, fee Of sl:25 which includes bowling:
VIII be charged and players may roll as
often as they desire.
At the Fountain Square alleys the Rec
session. The oeftering -LitIelman Coal and
Prospect Social were the big. winners in
Mo Moo Lodge and Stailhut Jewelry. while
the Mowwe Malt and klee & Coleman
won two from the Indianapolis Drop Forge
rames Of sis. sis and j9s. a total of 6el.
which was high. Sahm had an even 600
for his three games
The Ben Hur. Jacks Specials and Creme
Cigar teams won three games from the
apoas Music Shop. as the Easterns lost the
odd game TO the Hoosier Furniture in the
intermediate League play az the sp , vi,
the individual list daring this session.
others TO reach th> coo mark were: Caid-
well. COG: Mix. Cos; S7eicher, GIL; Mace.
Gle. and Stcveasr
The A. G. NJ ash team Of the
Ladies Social League. IN addition 70 win
ming three games from the W. F. Sargent.
rolled the high single game OF 9lS and the
high three-game total Of 2.569 during
Tuesdsv nirht's play st the Elks Club al
leys The Shell Gas girls also rolled well
to take three from the Erbricks Food
Products getting ASS. In the other ses-
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
METERS OPEN DRILLS

The Kirshbaum Meters basketball
team Players have started practice
for the season. The Meters last
year defeated such strong teams as
the East Tenth Street Deaks, Penn
sy, Louisville Y. M. H. AS, Com
munal Y. M. H. AS and Woodsides.
This years lineup will include such
FASTENERS as Stein, Harry and
Leon Kempler, Madorsky, Simpson,
Track, Klapper and Schenker.
Fast state and local teams desir-
ing games are asked to write to
Basketball Manager, Kirshbaum
center.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23

BIZ United Press
NEW YORK, Oct. 23.-Officials at
New York university have refused
to draw the color line" against
Negro football players. If the Uni
versity of Georgia objects to Dave
Myers, Negro quarter back Of N. Y.
us football team playing against
the southern team here on Nov. 8,
the contract for the intersectional
game will be Cancelled, according to
an announcement today by Profess
sor Giles c. Courtney, chairman of
the board of athletic control at New
York university.
New York university will tolerate
no discrimination against Myers"
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23

fun back The struggle will be broadcast by KYW
and WMAQ, Chicago
Some of the more optimistic followers have gone
so far as to predict Big Ten title for the northern
half of the "Hoosier Twins" after gancng at the
schedules Of the outstanding contenders. Minnesota
Ohio State and Illinois are the largest obstacles be-
tween Purdue and the Big Ten crown, with the first
named as the most dangerous threat
Chicago wisconsin, Iowa and Indiana are the
Conference eevens yet to be met in the order named
by the Boilermakers, with Mississippi providing rest
between Wisconsin and Iowa.
Coach Thistlethwate of the Badgers is having
difficult time assembling a winning machine from
good material and Iowa seems to be Purdues hardest
remaining game And with Ross-Ade stadium as the
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
City H. S. This Week

FRIDAY
washington vs.. Shortridge at shortridge
Marion VS.. Tech at Tech field.
Broad Ripple at Frankfort.
SATURDAY
Park School at Westfield. -.
Crispus Attacks at Central. Louisville,
Manual and Cathedral not scheduled this
week,
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
'Runt' Draws Big
Net Salary
Bs NEA Serrice

BUNEA Service
NEW YORK. Oct. 23.-The
IN midget of the professional
basketball ranks is Davey
Banks. beginning his fourth
season Of the pro game in the
lineup Of the Original Celtics.
Banks, who Is 5 feet 4 inches
tall, was born in this city's
Ghetto district.
In spite Of his handicap in
stature Banks is known as one
Of the best players in the pro-
fessional league. He turned
down attractive contracts from
other teams to play with his
home aggregation. The "runt"
draws a big salary.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
YALE RESERVES TRIED

Bu Uritrd Press
NEW HAVEN, Conn, Oct. 23.-
Rain cut Yale's scheduled half-hou
practice game to ten-minute dunn
my football workout. Coach Stevens
Is undecided on his starting lineup
for the Army game Saturday and
used several second string men In
the Tuesday workout.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
Golf Match Postponed

The Columbia Club indianapolis
Athletic Club golf match for the
George Marott trophy scheduled at
the Country Club links today was
postponed until next Wednesday.
Rain, snow and wintry blasts led
the tourney officials to delay the
event until the weather clears up.
The tourney banquet also has been
postponed until next Wednesday.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
Butler Passes
Hard form. YU.

Bv United Press
NEW YORK, Oct. ga three
hour drill featured the start of New
York univerSity's practice for Satur-
days game with Butler. The varsity
players had difficulty in solving the
Butler air attack in Tuesdays drill.
but Coach Meehan was pleased with
the improvement shown by Myers
and Marshall in the back field.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
.RISKO SCORES K. O.

. Z CLEVELAND. Oct. 23-Johnny
Risko, Cleveland heavyweight,
knocked out Jim Maloney, Boston
in the second round OF a scheduled
ten-round bout here Tuesday.
Maloney was hoored six times be-
fore Referee Kid Mcfarland
stopped the bout.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
ROCKNE DIRECTS TEAM

SOUTH BEND, Oct. 23.-Coach
Knute Rockne felt sufficiently re-
covered from his recent Illness to
direct his Notre Dame teams work
out in the gym Tuesday. Inclemers
weather made it impossible to prac-
tice outdoors. Rockne expressed
satisfaction with the teams blocking
on passes and kicks.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
MILLS CALLS SIGNALS

BU Offten Press
CHAMPAIGN, Ill, Oct. 23.-
Gaga Mills was shifted to quarter
back during the Illinois teams
practice Tuesday, due to injuries re-
ceived by Frosty Peters in the Iowa
game. The Him went through in
tensive scrimmage in the rain
Tuesday and bucked Michigan plays
as demonstrated by the freshman
team.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
Alex Not So Sick

BIZ United Press
Boilermakers splashed through the
mud clad in oilskins Tuesday to
practice formations for the Chicago
game. Whispers are going around
that Alex Yunevich is not as sick
as he is reported to be and may get
into the game Saturday.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
OVER CONFIDENCE FEARED

BW UNIItu FftSS
HAMILTON, N. Y, Oct. 23.-
Fearing a surprise defeat by Provi-
dence, Coach Andy Kerr warned his
Colgate team against overconfidence
at the opening of Tuesdays practice.
The squad came through three sue
cessive hard intersectional games
unscathed and is now pointing for
the Columbia game, Nov. 8.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
PHARMER DIRECTS GOPHERs

BIZ United Press
MINNEAPOLIS, Oct. 23.-There
will be no further scrimmages for
Minnesota this week due to Coach
Spears fear of injuring his team.
Arthur Pharmer took charge of the
team from left half back during
Tuesdays practice as the result OF
his brilliant showing against North
western.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
WITH LEFTY LEE

sions the Komstohk Candy won. three from
took two from the Block OPTICAL Nc
Kinnon showed real class when she wal wal;
of 632 with games of 1856, 209 and 1877.
Burnett had sos: Bunch. SIG. and McAnly.
$50.
The Burns Employment Agency team of
the Indianapolis Ladies' League scored
2311 in a recent series and a printers
different name for the team. 1t was a
good total for women bowlers, being next
high for the night to the top total OF
2493, posted by the Shell Gas girls.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
Did You Know
That

~OLONEL HUSTON told 4
" scout in 1920 he wanted a
certain player In the Pacific
Coast League. And that the
scout should bring him back
If he had to buy the Vernon
franchise to do it. -. The
player was Bob Meusel. I. :. Jack
COMBS and Eddie Plank were
Bob Shawkey's early instruc-
tors. =. A soft touch" IS al
opponent that q boxer thinks
he can stop. =. A couple OF
New York writer's say Willie
Davies of Charleroi, Pa, may
be the next fiyweight cham
p.on.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
$4,000 TICKETS SOLD

EVANSTON, H., Oct. 23.-AlI
seats have been sold for the North
western Illinois game to be played
here Nov. 2, according to announce
ment by athletic officials. Fifty
thousand pasteboards have been
mailed.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
PENN WORK INDOORS

PHILADELPHIA, Oct. 23.-Penn
worked indoors for the first time this
season when rain prevented outdoor
drill Tuesday. fither Raffel or
Tansear will take Gervin's place in
the lineup against Lehigh Saturday.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23

Old Gold and Black outfit figures to win
halt Phelannen
Minnesota Illinois, Northwestern and
schedule
demonstrated their
their 1928 performance
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23
Boilermakers Believed Capable of Maintain
ing Clean Slate With Likelihood of Other
Contenders Stumbling Along Route.
BY VERN BOXELL

supporters in their predictions Of the
Boermakers Saturday Chicago the Midway the majority
Jimmy win by handy margin despite the
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23

The Corn team took three from the Oats
as the Straw and Wheat won two from
the Nav and Rye in the Board of Trade
League games. O'Brien featured this loops
pIav with games of 212. 1913 and 20S, total
of COS.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-10-23

The A. C. M ash team OF the
Ladies Social Leas,e IN addition 70 win
ming three games from the w. F. Sargent.
rolled the high single game. OF 9lS ana the
Tuesdsv nirht's play st the Elks Club al
leys. The Shell Gas girls also rolled vel
to take three from the Erbricks Food
Products settins ASS. In the other ses-
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-10-08
OIL OPERATOR SUES
LOSANGELES CULT.
Seeks Return of $4,000
From Group Involved in
Strange Burial"
BY the Associated Press.

BY the Associated Press.
LOS ANGELES, october 8.-The
weird affairs involving 1.-THE Divine
Order of the Royal Arm of the Great
Seal" which came to light with the
finding of the body Of 16-year-old
Villa Rhoads buried at the home Of
her foster parents here, were further
con. 3licated today by civil suits against
members Of the cult filed by Clifford r.
Dabney, oil operator.
The filing of five suits against Mrs.
May Otis Blackburn and other men,
bers of the cult, seeking the return
of $4,000 as well as an oil lease and
1854 acres of Ventura County land, was
disclosed yesterday while police 1nvesti-
gated the death Of the Rohads girl and
ran down reports that many members
Of the religious order had disappeared
in the course of its operations.
Oficers said seveSal followers Of the
cult who had been named as among the
missing had been located. Criminal
charges of embezzlement, sworn to by
Dabney and Mrs. Nellie r. Banks Of
Indianapolis, previously caused the
arrest of Mrs. Blackburn and her
daughter, Mrs. Ruth Weiland Rizzio,
"priestess" of the organization.
Dabney, In his civil suit, stated he
and other cult members advanced
money to Mrs. Blackburn pending COM
pletion of her book, THE Sixth Sea-"
which was to reveal by use Of "the
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-10-08

governess who. while modern enough,
has the older generations point Of
view concerning social leadership.
Her grandmother was O belle In
Louisville, KY, In the heyday Of blue
grass society before she married Potter
Palmer, Yankee, who accumulated
many millions in Chicago real estate,
rising from clerkship.
Society Is q bit more casual now than
In the days when Mrs. Palmers house
servant dressed In purple broadcloth
and letters were reported to pass
through ~ hands before they
reached her. ~
The chances are that social life
would see little change in manner
should her granddaughter rise to
power, for her manner is simple and
unaffected. But tomorrow's debs
buzzing over teacups, may be pardoned
II they are thrilled by their con-
featuring. which is all they can do
until something more definite happens.
The Palmers, incidentally, sold the
family home for $4,000 900 last year,
and before many months will move into
an apartment nearby. -
A $25,Q00,000 apartment building Is
projected for the site.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-10-08
PALMER DYNASTY
MAY RULE AGAIN
Granddaughter Is Seen as
Likely Car of Midwest
Society. ......

CHICAGO, October s.-The dynasty
established in 1880's by Mrs. Potter
Palmer, whose edicts were law for
nearly four decades, may be ruling Mid
west society again before many years.
The new social car, II such she
should prove, would be grand
daughter of the now almost fabulous
social leader, She Is Miss Bertha
Palmer, o debutante of last season. =
Until 1913, when the elder MRS.
Palmer died, the betowered brown
stone mansion which dominated; Lake
Shore Drive was the citadel Of prairie
society and an invitation there was the
goal Of every social climber.
Just to be seen at one Of Mrs.
Palmer's affairs established social
position and once all except two mem
bers Of smart club deserted their own
tea when she issued cards on the
Her daughter-in-law, the present
Mrs. Potter Palmer, declined the
social scepter and the throne was
established in another castle a few
blocks down the drive. Since her re-
turn from Switzerland several years
ago Mrs. Edith Rockefeller, Mccormick
has been the recognized leader, al
though reported not to be fond Of the
post. ,f2tE.f. '
When Bertha Palmer made her
debut, the last in the old mansion,
her patrician air and striking like
ness to her grandmother were noted.
Then, too. she has been tutored by q