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Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-08-05
Washimgtom Letter
By HERBERT C. PLUMHfER

Fl Aug. 5-Not since the Gam al
fair has washington tea table gossip been SO lively
as now.
For the capital's haute monde has been a victim
Of a fast one-in fact. one Of the fastest ones that
has been pulled in quite a while. No one seems 70
know the victims. All know that there were victims.
And each suspects the other.
Here are the details:
Into Washington recently there came a man with
supposedly unquestioned integrity. He MADE MS
home at one of the exclusive hotels where social lead
ers are wont to gather.
Little by little he gained the confidence of all.
And then he sprung his idea.
What washington needed. he said, was a social
register that contained only the names OF those who
had a right to social recognition. There was no sucn
publication now in existence.
True. there was a book that purported to list those
in the capital who could ~rightfully claim social rank.
but It didn't amount to much. Any one who cared
to paw IS or $40. and could get the endorsement Of
another whose name was already IN, would nave no
difficulty in getting in himself.
My $50
The newcomers Blue Book" would contain the
name Of no one whose social standing could be ques-
toned. And the cost-only $50 a name.
The idea met a generous response, Checks came
in from some OF the most important people In the
social and Official life Of the capital. And then the
author was jailed suddenly. charged with fraud.
In vain did the authorities seek for witnesses. No
one was willing TO admit that he had purchased
social recognition" at the price Of $50.
Finally one woman was found who was willing
to testify against the accused. She barred the whole
scheme.
But as far as is known her name is the only one to
be made public.
TICKET LURE
Washington perhaps holds the record Of being the
greatest ticket buying city in the country.
There is a continuous round Of benefits. social ba-
zaars and the like sponsored by the capitals social
leaders. With a few rare exceptions they are all well
patronized.
Many and ingenious are the methods employed 70
dispense with tickets FOR these events.
There Is one man who makes good money by OPP
Grating a ticket-selling agency which handles moth
ing but pasteboards for social benefits. The sponsor
turns over the bulk Of the tickets to him. He In turn
calls in a number Of women who have access TO tele-
phones. The entire telephone directory Of he Dis
trict Of Columbia Is divided between them. Call after
call is made by these women until their portion OF
the directory Is exhausted.
Another favorite method Is to mail tickets TO prom
inent people with a note that II the tickets are not
used they should be returned in an enclosed stamped
envelope. Unless they are returned-and more than
likely they are not-payment Is demanded.
To avoid unpleasantness the victim usually pays.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-08-05
THIS FIRST:

coexsesr ,asa. cEnrsAL pssss AssN ner eLEvELAHo. CHIC.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-08-05

A diet expert suggests the Juice Of an orange and
a slice Of bran bread in the morning. but doesn't say
whether 1t Is to be taken before or after breakfast
Fresno Republican.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-08-05

The Island Of Yap with a quota Of 100 immigrants
to the United States hasn't sent In a single one.
That's all right. This country has enough yaps al
ready-winston-sal em Journal.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
ROYsE TO FILE SUIT
Starts Fight Today for Pay
as Pauper Attorney.

John A. Royse, who was appointed
county pauper attorney by Criminal
Judge James A. Collins announced
today that he will file suit for $500
for his January pay as pauper at
torney. The suit will name County
Auditor Harry Dunn, who has re-
fused to pay his claim, and county
commissioners, who have refused TO
sign Royse's pay voucher, defend
ants.
The suit will allege that RoySe's
authority to act as pauper attorney
followed his appointment by COL
Inns in each case,
Lloyd D. Claycon1be, appointee to
the place by county commissioners,
late Thursday filed suit in circuit
court, for mandate directing
Dunn to pay him. County commits
sioners unanimously signed his pay
request Saturday. Dunn refuses to
pay either until a court decides
which holds the attorneys office.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
ARMORY QUIZ
LAUNCHED BY
PROBE GROUPS
Cost Plus System of Con.
Struction Under
Scanning.

Investigation of the coSt-plus sys-
tenn of armory building construc-
ton by the state armory board will
get under way today with a meet
ing of the special committee ap-
pointed in the senate Tuesday by
Lieutenant Governor Edgar D. Bush.
The committee was chosen when
a resolution asking the investiga-
ton was presented by Senator
Thurman A. Gottschalk, Berne, a
Democratic member of the state
budget committee and unanimously
adopted by the senators.
Gottschalk pointed out that
financing of the arniories by holding
companies is all done through the
Peoples State bank and construction
by the OStrom Realty and Construc-
ton Company, bank subsidiary.
Officers of the bank and realty
company may appear before the
special committee to testify today.
VI al z
Senators Alonzo H. Lindley, King
man, chairman; French Clemens,
Evansville; Denver G. Harlan, Rich
mond, Republicans, and Carl M.
Gray, Petersburg, and Charles r.
Morris, Salem, Democrats.
The resolution was second by
Senator Luther o. Draper, Repub-
lican member of the budget COM
mittee, and Senator Robert L. Moor
head, indianapolis, member of the
armory board
Other board members serving un-
der the regime of Adjutant-G General
William H KeIshner are Robert H
Tyndall, Clarence G. Wysong, Will
bur F. Smith. Lewellyn A. Turnock
all of Indianapolis. They were ap-
pointed by former Governor Ed
jackson and their terms expire
March II.
Under the holding company plan,
which Gottschalk declares will cost
$350,00O a year for the next fifteen
years and will have the state in
debt to the extent of more than
$2,500,00O by next October.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
HOGS STEADY
TO Is CENTS
LOWER IN PENS
Sheep Slump; Cattle Take
Down Trend; VealS
Little Changed.

Hogs were steady to Is cents low
er today at the local stockyards,
most loss on 160-200-popund av-
erages. The bulk of 10000 pounds
brought $500. Receipts we're esti-
mated at 10000, and holdovers we're
numbered at 269
Cattle showed a lower trend on
all grade stock except on low grade
she stock. Trade was depressed by
holdovers. Vealers were little
changed, selling at $18 down.
Lambs were evenly lower, some
sales Is to SO cents lower. bulk
brought SIC to SIT. culls and throw
outs, $11 to SIS.
The Chicago hog market opened
steady to weak with Tuesdays aver
age. A few sales of choice 180-250
Founders, brought 1910 to $3.50.
Odd lots of packing sows sold for
$8.75 to SO. Receipts were $4,000,
including 1000 directs, and hold
overs from Tuesdays market totaled
5000.
Cattle receipts were 1880. Sheep
receipts were 10000.
Hog prices today we're as follows:
250-350 pounds, $9.40 t. 1890; 200
$50 pounds, 1890; 10000 pounds,
$500; 130-160 pounds, $9.40 to $500;
90-130 pounds, $7.25 to 1915, and
packing sows, 1925 to SO.
Cattle receipts we're 1900; calf
receipts were 900. Beef steers, $1075
to $13; beef COWS, $3.50 to $3.50;
low cutters and cutter COWS, $525
to ST; vealers. $3.50 to $3.50; heavy
calves, ST to $12, and bulk stock and
feeder steers, So to $1,000.
Sheep receipts were 600; top fat
lambs, $17.25; bulk fat lambs. $3.50
to SIT; bulk Gull lambs, $11 to $3.50,
and snulk fat ewes, SITS to $10.25.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
In the Stock Market
CIV Thomson 4, McKinnonl

NEW YORK, Jan. 30.-Inasrnuch
as the idea of anything in the ma
ture of an extra from the steel COR
poration at this meeting has been
dwindling for several days past,
Tuesdays declaration of just the
regular dividend can hardly be con-
strued as disappointing. The an
nual report, it seems to me, is of
more Importance in that vertical
ton of the high state of industrial
activity is confirmed. The report of
General Motors sales, which on the
surface contains an element of dis
appointment. is modified somewhat
by the knowledge that the chief di-
vision of the company has been
practically at a Standstil during
December, while models were being
changed. Were it not for a weak
technical position Of the market
these reports might have little ef-
feet. Unfortunately the market
shows such an overbought condi-
ton that hasty selling might bring
about sharp decline-
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
FOREIGN NEWS
ADVANCES PRICE
OF GRAIN IN PIT
Crop Reports Show Heavy
Damage in Wheat; Corn
Little Better.

BIZ United Press
CHICAGO, Jan. 30.-Favorable
foreign news and reports of dam
age to winter crop strengthened
wheat prices here today. Corn adj
vanced slightly and oats were little
changed.
At the opening wheat was Il cent
to u cent higher, corn was up u
cent to X cent and oats were I'M
changed to 1s cent lower. Provisions
were unchanged.
Weekly crop reports indicate dam
age to winter wheat in sections
where fields are under cover Of ice.
Prices are now around 5 cents under
high points and traders are begin
ming to feel the improved technical
position will serve as check on
further declines, and may cause
slight advances. Liverpool was
higher than due today.
There has been no news to in
spire aggressive action in corn, and,
although receipts in the southwest
have been increasing, country Of
ferings to arrive here show little
change. Kansas City has been
shipping considerable grain to Chi
cago.
Buying on the declines has been
the feature in oats trading, but
longs continue to sell on all bulges.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
Commission Row
PRICES TO RETAILERS


FRUITS
Apples-Box Jonathan. s2.50@2.75: bas-
ket Jonathan. si.SOG2.55: box Delicious
s3G3.25; box Grimes. s2.25 Q2.75: bas-
get Grimes; 81 :5oG225; basket Winter ba-
ocoanuts-$6.50 q bag Of 100.
Crannerries-s5 25-lb. box: $40 90
orspes-Emperors. Tugs. $3.50: kegs. 81;
Ai Grapefr ufE sssS.5oasy5.
Lemons--California, crate, $725@2;50
oranges-calIforina naval. crate. $3.50
q Persimm nua; @esIS; s1.75a2; 20 to
Pears~Bosc. box. 81 So. Aniau s4.75.
Strawberries Florida. 90c quart.
VEGETABLES
ArtichokeS-S1.75 q dozen.
Beans--Southern stringless. $3.50
Cabbage Wisconsin,. a h.. sh@4c:
Texas, new cabbage. sc H..
Cauliflower-C California S2.25.
CarrotS-California: 90c dozen punches.
Celery-Californis rough large crate.
S6.50M7.
Eggplant Dozen. 81.
Kale- Virginia. S2.2oa2.oO ousnei; crate
Letuce-Canfornia head. crate, $3.50
$50: homegrown leaf. bushel s2.l5W
onions-Yellow. 1oo-lb. bag, s5@6;
Spanish, a crate. s2.5o02.75: Western.
Parsiev-Home-grown dozen punches.
soc.
Peas-California. 81 45-lb. box.
Representatives,. per crate. sl4: pecE
Potatoes-Michigsn round white. $50 lbs,
S2.1002.25: Ohio. s1.50G1.75; Idaho. $3.50
bag.
Radishes Button dollhouse. dozen
punches, 90c.
Spinach-Texas, a busllel. sl@1.35.
Sweet PotatoeS-1ndtana Jersey. So .
bushel; No 2. SITS hushel
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
Death Notices

BENJAMIN, CHARLES C.-Beloved hus-
band of Louise, father of Dumont, Ray
mond, Charles j., Harry Benjamin and
Mrs. Minnie McInturff, Mrs. N. A. Rus
ton and Mary BENJAMIN. passed away
Friends may call at W.. t, Blasengym
funeral par1orS, 1928 Shelby street. any
services from the parlors. Friday. Feb.
l. at 2 p, M. Burial Memorial Park.
Friends invited.
julius H. draueI @otheT Of n con EsG
William c.. Mrs. Charles HoIlenbeck. Ms.
Bretzman, Mrs. H. A. Grabhorn of Indi-
annapolis, and the Rev. Julius r. Grauel
of Baltimore, Md. passed away at her
residence, Monday, Jan. %, at a. M,
age 81 years. Friends may call at resi-
dence. 2607 E. Tenth street. Wednesday,
Thursday and Friday until noon. Funeral
Private services at First Reformed church,
corner e. Tenth and Oakland avenue. 2
f Rill. M Friends invited, Burial Crown
SMITH, MRS. AMELIA ANN Nee Se-,
burn) widow of Joshua Smith and
mother of Edward S. Smith, Mrs. Lillian
Dale, Mrs. Jessie M. Clark, Bert Smith,
Mrs. Maude HILL Harry H. Smith and
the late Mrs. Ralph Meyers, passed away
Tuesday morning, Jan. 20, 1929. at the
home OF her daughter. Mrss Jessie. Clark,
1914 North Harding street Friends may
call Wednesday afternoon and evening at
Funeral Thursday, p. m. at Crooked
= Creek Baptist church, Northwestern ave-
nue. and Kessler boulevard. Friends in
Vited Interment Southport. Ind
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
COMPENSATION
LAW CHANGES
ARE Deferred
Primary Repeal Is Asked in
Bill introduced in
Senate.

Sharp debate, heralding a fight
against modification of the work.
mems compensation law interrupted
the special order of business in the
state senate today and discussion
of the compensation law was de-
layed by a few woes until next
Tuesday at 10 a. m.
1t had been scheduled as special
business for 1 la. m. today.
Criticism by Senator James j
Nejdl, Whiting, of the epidemic of
liquor laws in Indiana failed to stop
passage to engrossment of the Adj
ans bill, with an amendment in
creaSing penalties.
The measure, as it stands, pro-
vides prison sentences of from one
to two years for selling liquor to
minors and is almost identical with
the Gray bill, which passed the SEN
ate last week.
Introduce Ten Bills
Ten bills we're introduced, includ-
ing the Republican state committee
bill repeating the primary law and
returning choice of candidates to the
convention system.
Senator John L. Niblack, Indian
apolis, introduced his bill creating
a state police force under superin-
tendent appointed by the Governor.
1t takes both the police and identi-
f1cation bureau out of the secretary
of states Office.
The primary repeal bill was pre-
sented by Senator Denver G. Har-
Ian, president pro tenn. 1t takes the
governorship and the United States
senatorships into convention, pro-
vides for choosing convention dele
gates at county primaries, and Sc
lection of congressional candidates
in district conventions.
Warn Against Measure
Senator Harlan was joined in the
introduction of the bill by Senators
I. Floyd Carrot, Battle Ground,
and Bruce E. Cooper, Stewartsville.
Although Endorsed by Governor
Harry G. Leslie and incorporated in
the party platform, the bill is ex-
pected to meet with Republican as
we'll as Democratic opposition.
Former Governor Ed Jackson
warned against the measure In his
last speech to the legislature.
Fight to postpone discussion of the
compensation measure, which would
increase benefits to workmen, was
led by Senator Earl Rowley, La
Porte, who succeeded in passing the
resolution to delay.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
BY ELMER c. Waller
United Press Financial Editor


NEW YORK, Jan. 30.-United
States Steel common reacted Is of
a point on the opening of the stock
exchange today to $183.50, following
failure Of directors yesterday to de-
clare an extra dividend, as many
in Wall Street had expected.
The earnings report of United
States Steel showing $1i.6I per
share for 1928, against $3.50 III 1927
Offset the effect of declaration Of
only regular dividends. Expecta-
tions of an excellent first quarter
led to the belief that the next meet
3ng. in April, would bring out the
expected extra.
Other sections of the market we're
irregular, due to the firm money
in sight over the month end. Utili-
ties we're still in demand, including
transactions where Brooklyn-Man-
haitian Transit featured with rise
of 2 points to 80, a. new high for the
year.
General Motors old stock was re-
moved from the board today. The
new stock sold at 1914, off q. Other
motors were steady.
Rails held firm.
Utilities Power and Light A
featured the opening in utilities. The
first sale of the issue involved 49,
600 shares at 467s, up rs and a new
1929 high. Public Service made a
new high at 937s, up q, and others
of the utility group were fractionally
higher. Standard Gas made a new
record high at 80.
Large increases in railroad earn
ings helped the carrier group Copper
shares we're ffriner, led by Anaconda
and Kennecott. American Smelling
also firIned up.
Sears Roebuck was depressed a
point to 161 and Coty lost rs to rs.
AS the session wore on further
selling came into United States
Steel, the price declining to 1925,
wheye it was off rs from the
previous close.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT
SCORED BY CITY CLERK
Raps Lack Of Uniformity at Truck
Drivers Meeting.

Lack of uniformity in enforce
ment of the new city traffic code
was pointed out Tuesday night by
William A. Boyces Jr.. city click. be-
fore the indianapolis Safety Coun-
Gil truck drivers conference at the
DeniSon.
Boyce pointed out that due to the
size of the police force the code was
overzealously enforced in the down
town section and practically ig, ored
In the outskirts.
Municipal Judge Clifford r. Cam
eron criticised the traffic lanes II
slow and fast traffic on North Me-
ridian and Delaware streets.
They encourage motorists to vio-
late the speed Laws" Cameron said
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
GOVERNMENT BONDS
Building Permits

West. $500.
e. D. Soaring. repairs. 1856 North Belle
W hey. garage. els Dexter, $500
AZ Z, ps Wore. boiler, SIS Congress. $500.
fSs Jut Realty Company. building.
Cas-=I and Pratt Sl2q. 900.
C :. Roger. rer AIRS. IS South MeKim.
L Burns. addition. sis4 North Delaware.
Standard OIL Company. station. RAN
dclph and Washington. $4,000.
b. Wilson, dwelling and garage. oIos
Broadway. 81 600.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
TheGU
i'm Brief

u y
in charge of foreign travel of the
Fletcher Savings and Trust Com
pany, spoke on customs in European
countries and northern Africa at q
meeting of Sons of Union Veterans
and Auxiliary at FIT. Friendly, 512
North Illinois street, Tuesday night.
Music was furnished by students of
the Metropolitan School of Music.
Showing of a series of educa-
tional films under Nature Study
Club auspices will be begun tonight
at CropSey hall. The series is be-
ing directed by Mrs Robert Geddes.
Miss Lucy Campbell and Mrs. G. A.
Brocksay. Music and discussions
will follow the showing of pictures.
The safety board today issued
formal notice to city market stand
holders to pay rent before Feb. l.
Licenses of delinquent SHAREHOLDERS
will be rocked, Fred w. Conneli
safety board president, announced.
More than $50 SHAREHOLDERS are de-
| linquent.
William Brubn, SO, Of 10 West
Arizona street, a cripple, arrested
Tuesday on a. liquor charge, told
John w. Kern, United States COM
missioner, he was merely trying to
earn a living when he sold liquor.
! He was held to the federal grand
jury under $4,000 bond.
ALI departments of the Capitol
Avenue M. E. church will be rep
resented at All-Church night
Thursday evening. The Cleaners
class and Epworth League will serve
a dinner at $3.50 p. m. Educational
motion pictures will be shown.
indianapolis section members OF
the Indiana Engineering Society will
entertain guests at the annual state
meeting next week. Tuesday night
the section heard discussion of To-
cation and operation of Indianapolis
Street Railway Company power SUBJ
stations by L. G. Spencer, electrical
engineer.
Losing her balance ON the snow
covered, slippery sidewalk, Mrs
| Cora Wilson, so, of 10 North West
street, fell and broke her right leg
this morning in front of 447 West
Washington street. She was taken
to city hospital.
A benefit whist party End fish
| fry will be held at the Midway hall
1881 North Senate avenue, Thurs
day evening from 8 to 70. Mrs
Helen Williams and Charles Davis
| are in charge of arrangements.
Emerson w. Challie, Indianapolis
Real Estate Board delegate to the
/ National Association of Real Estate
Boards convention at Birmingham,
Ala, and William Lowe Rice, ma
tional association vice. president,
will tell local Real Estate Board
members of activities of the nation
al meeting at the boards luncheon
at the Chamber of Commerce
Thursday.
J. L. Wikoff, Ohio State Life In
surance Indianapolis branch man
manager, is attending a three-day
agency assembly of the company
at Columbus, o. Wikoff is a mem
Der of the Ohio State Life Honor
Club. Speakers at the Columbus
meeting will include Russell S
| King. Indianapolis.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
Hogs
Other Livestock
BIZ United Press

PITTSBURGH, Jan. 3O.-Hogs-R Receipts.
1900; market. unevenly lower; 250-350 lbs.
10000 lbs. s1o.S5@1O.7o; I30-160 lbs,
ing sows, $s@s.75. Cattle-Receipts. none;
calves. 100; market. firm; beef steers, $11@
1925; light yearlings steers and heifers.
and cutter COWS, s5G7 vealers, S14@19;
heavy calves. $11617.50. Sheep-Receipts,
400; market. strong to Csc, up; top fat
bulk .oull lambs, $lo@l3.50; bulk fat ewes,
$7M9.50.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
CITIES RIDE ON RAILS

81 Hlfcd Press
NEW YORK. Jan. So.-A new
advertisement of the elevated sys-
TEN is that more people travel on
the system in one year than there
are residents OF such cities as BoS-
Ton. St. Louis or Pittsburgh.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
Roon, for Rent With Board

BELIEVED. 954-Attractfve. warm rn1.
good meals. laundry. $3.50. Be. 0991-R.
CAPITOL. n, 2157-Comfortab rms.
mod. private home. cd. meals. Ia. 2567-z.
CENTRAL. 22i5-Nice. warm room: or d:
good meals. He. 1870.
DEL. N OF 30TH- Beautifully furn m.
to share with girl: gar. ia. 1920.
LOCKERBIE. 62e-Nice warm rms. plenty
hot water: meals optional. Ri. 1703.
NORTH--AttractIve rnl.: good meals; near
golf links. Ha. 1291-W
PENN. N. 2123-W Warm. attractive room:
hot water: near bath: phone.
RIEGGOLD. 2sss-Modern. private home;
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
TREASURY STATEMENT

BIZ United Press --
net balance for Jan. %, sl35. 615, 292 90;
customs receipts this month to that date.
$40. 339,044.74.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
Situations Wanted Female

housekeeper by refined
middle-aged lady. with daughter; exp. in
all depts.; ref; widower; bach. pref. Mrs.
E. M. Teaggarden. 500 Liberty ST.. Mus
cantine Iowa.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
Special Notices

CHAS FREEBOOTER BAKING co.
Quality bread and cakes. Service daily
70 your door. DR. $500.
ENDTCOTT-JOENSON- Work or dress
shoes: S19s to $685. 1i8 Virginia Mr.
Nd st.
FROCKS-Wraps and indies: Handmade.
shocked or embroidered: reasonable
prices $50 W. 28th st. Ia 1881.
OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES SOC: shampooing. 50cs
faciaIs T5c: permanent waving. Ii. 1858.
PRACTICAL NURSE-On mental cases in
your own home. RI 6i32.
WED0TNCs-And birthday. cakes: xeas.:
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1929-01-30
Local Wagon Wheat

City grain elevators are paying $l.31 for
No. red wheat and Si.l6 for No. hard.