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Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-02-11
Money and Prices
Special Dispatch to The Star

Special Dispatch to The Star.
NEW HAVEN, Conn.,, February IL
For the fifth consecutive week this year
commodity prices declined and the pur-
chasing power Of the dollar increased.
This steady movement is consisten.
with the high interest rates prevailing
and throws light on considerations
which may have influenced the Fed
eral Reserve Board in its recent state
ment indicating disapproval of the de-
nectlon OF credit resources to stock
market operations.
European prices also revealed weak
ness.
Fluctuations in the general whole
sale price level and in the purchasing
power OF the dollar are given below
Ior the united States for various pc
RODS, based mainly on Dun's Quota
tons. The average for the year 1926
is the base used:
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-02-11
POTATO MARKET DULL.

CHICAGO, February II up GU. S. De-
partment of Agriculture) Potatoes
Receipts, lat cars: on track, 1859 cars;
total U. S. shipments Saturday, 848
cars; Sunday, 33 cars; trading fairly
good, with slightly better market on
Russets, slow and dull on other stock;
Wisconsin sacked round whites, 75a95;
few fancy, 100: Minnesota and North
Dakota sacked Red River Ohios, mostly
Ito; Idaho sacked Russets, 1.60a1.85.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-02-11
Farm Buying Power
Special Dispatch to The Star.

Special Dispatch to The Star
NEW HAVEN. Conn, February IL
Farm purchasing power declined only
slightly last week despite general weak
ness of commodity prices. Numerous
agricultural items were lower. including
such important items as cotton. eggs.
corn, steers, hogs and lambs. There
were few compensating increases in
prices Of agricultural goods, although
wheat was trifle stronger.
Prices of agricultural goods de-
Glined likewise, thus tending to sustain
the purchasing power of farm products
Index numbers of farm purchasing
power and of agricultural and non
agricultural prices for various periods
are given in the following table, in
which the average for 1926 represents
100:
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-02-11

berS and by ar
ranging 20 sa We
more morIey during
the coming year
than ever before.
The total amount
which members of
these savings clubs
are planning to lay
aside during the
present year has
reached the new
high mark of ST.
462, OCT. en- increase
of $4l5.s00 over
the record of 1928.
The 30 Washing
ton banks MAIN
t in in g t h e S e
Christmas clu b S
have inst rpDOrted
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-02-11
COPPER MINES ACTIVE.

NEW YORK, February IL R).-
Calumet 81 Hecla Consolidated Copper
Co.'s Michigan mills, the Calumet and
Ahmeek, are operating to capacity, with
estimated production in excess Of TO-
100000 pounds month.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-02-11
NEW YORK BANK cLEAR1NGs.

NEW YORK, February IL (SpeciaD -
! New York bank clearings, $673,000, 900;
New York bank balances, $119, 000,0 600;
New York Federal Reserve credit ball
ences, Sos, 900, 900.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-02-11

Copyright. 1929, by Irving FISHERY
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-02-11
CHRISTMAS SAVING
.CLUDS SHOW GAIN
Banks Report Big Increase
| in Amount of New
Deposits.
BY EDWARD c. STONE.

Washingtonians have taken another
important and progressive step along
the path of thrift by joining the banks
Christmas savings clubs in larger num-
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-02-11

Foreign Commodity Prices.
Gable reports from abroad indicate
the following European wholesale move
ments:
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
Associations Agree
On Competition BY
College Athletes

NEW YORK, Auril 16.-P)-The
dispute between the National Cole
gate Athletic association and the
Amateur Athletic Union as to which
should have the last word about
competition by college athletes is
at an end. Under resolutions adopt
ed by committees representing the
two bodies at a meeting last night
each organization will proceed
within its own sphere, without con-
flict and overlap of jurisdiction.
For any college in good standing,
the A. A. u. has agreed to accept
the word of the institution as the
equivalent of a registration card.
College athletes may take part
in competition not authorized by
the A. A. U. as long as the college
certifies it is amateur competition
and not with or against men under
suspension ty the A. A. U.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16

dukes. Avalos would take three Or
four to get in close 30 throw one.
He got a good hand from the crowd
on his gameneSS.
Guerra was boxing we'll but he
was not his old self-only once or
twice did he spring up and down
after the fashion that gave him his
name of the San Benito Rooster"
He had trained strenuously for his
shot at Sada and it is probable
that he overdid it.
In the curtain raiser Lefty Ray,
l26 pounds of Laredo, had a COM
paratively easy time in outpointing
Angel Garcia, 126 pounds, Of San
Antonio, in six rounds. Garcia was
puzzled by Rays unorthodox lead
ing with his right. Ray clipped him
on the chin in the second round
and sent him down for the count
of seven but Garcia got up and
weathered the remainder of the
course. a
Evades X. 0.
Lefty" chased Garcia all over
the ring carefully seeking to plant
the X. o. on the button puJ Garcia
had a way of ducking and covering
up that Ray could not get under.
Garcia was in a bad way i'll the
closing round but frustrated Rays
effort to land the k. o.
Jack Revis, himself a calm dose
of puglistic poison, refereed the
opening bouts.
Kid Monterrey, Johnny Hughes
and Battling Shaw were introduced
from the ring.
A tree just outside of the arena
loomed UP like a Christmas affair
as many cigaret butts cleaned
through the darkness. Occasionally
a match was struck to reveal bow
ers of the tree well filled with a
strange fruit-'fight nuts"
Manager Al Robinson must be
seeking to emulate Tex Richard,
for the fair sex were in good evil
dence at the Monday night card.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
NORTON WOULD
STAY AMATEUR.
Former Resident of Valley
Wishes TO Retire AS
Tennis Pro

NEW YORK.-After a career of
only three weeks as a professional
tennis player, Brian Norton Of Tex
as, once ranked among the first 10
amateurs has applied for reinstate-
ment as an amateur. Norton played
in only professional tournament
defeating Vincent Richards in the
final at Palm Beach three weeks
ago. He turned over the money he
received for winning to Holcombe
Ward, chairman of the amateur rule
committee, when he made his ap-
plication for reinstatement. A de-
cision is expected in a few days.
Norton is well known over the
Valley, having resided in Browns
vile for several years. He came
here from San Atnonio and was
connected with a gas company.
He frequently played games here
with his friends but he let his PROV
ess slack off considerable as he
failed to get consistent practice.
Norton formerly lived in South
Africa and is a graduate of Oxford
university. He began to shine as a
tennis play and student at the uni
verSity.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16

was clear, if somewhat chilly,
weather. AT Cincinnati, the Reds
and st. Louis Cardinals, National
league champions, expected fair and
somewhat warmer weather.
All the other cities. two in the
National and four in the American
league, have been warned to expect
anything but favorable conditions.
Assuming that all fight opening
games will be played, an outpouring
of more than 100000 fans Is expect
ed.
Fifty thousand of these should
pile into the Yankee stadium to
see whether Miller Higgins world
champions New York Yankees still
pack their punch. The Boston Red
Sox, an improved but hardly dan
gerouS crew, are to FURNISH the OPP
position to Higgins maulers.
An attendance of $4,000 is a vir-
tual certainty at Chicago where the
Cubs, with Rogers Hornsby at sec
ond base and a National league PEN
nant their fond expectation, will
battle with one of the their fore
most rivals, the dangerous Pirates of
Donnie Bush.
Cincinnati and st. Louis should
perform before some 10000. Presi-
dent Hoover is to help $4,000 other
fans cheer Walter Johnson's dark
horse Washington Senators when
they take the field for an engage
ment with Connie Mack'S Phila-
delphia Athletics, majority choice
to finish second behind the Yankees
in the American league this year.
Some Is ZOO may watch Detroit
and Cleveland tangle at Cleveland
and perhaps $4,000 attend the Chi
cago White Sox-St. Louis.
Smaller crowds are expected at
the other two National league games
at Philadelphia and Boston. Brook
lyn's crippled Dodgers meet the
Braves at Boston while the PhilS are
seeing what they can do with the
powerful New York Giants at Phila-
delphia.
John A. Heydler, president OF the
lNdIlOIhdl lCdsuCy l1oO 0CNA0Oo w
watch the Pills Giants clash while
President Bernard of the American
league is watching the Senators and
Athletics.
Although the Yankees are strong
favorites to take their fourth con-
secutive American league champion
ship, the dope indicates the cham
pions will be threatened by at least
four clubs-the Athletics, Browns,
Tigers and Senators. In the Ma
tional league, indications are the
Giants and Cubs will be the princl-
pal factors in the pennant struggle
but that Pittsburgh and st. Louis,
alternate league Champions during
the last four years, will provide
plenty of opposition and have an
excellent chance to win.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
G~uggenheim
Girl Married To
Real Estate Man

NEW YORK, April 16.-(R9-The
New York World said today Natalie
Guggenheim, 18, and only daughter
of Edmond A. G~uggenheim, wealthy
copper magnate, was married last
Friday to Thomas M. German. 27-
year-old real estate broker and son
of a railroad freight agent.
The ceremony took place at All
Saints Protestant Episcopal church
at Great Neck, Long Island, and
was performed by the Rev. MIR.
Kirkland HuSke. The couple was
attended by Joseph O'Connell, q
real estate and insurance broker OF
Great Neck, and an unidentified girl
friend of the bride.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
Must Not Race The
Purps, Governor of
Arkansas Declares

MARION, Ark, April 16.-(P)-
Hope for revival Of greyhound rae
ing in Arkansas and re-opening OF
the 1913 900 Mid-South kennel club
we're dashed when Governor Parnell
vetoed a legislative act permitting
pari~mutuel betting.
TIE greyhound plant, located
access the Mississippi river from
Memphis, Tenn, had operated only
two weeks when it was closed by
state authorities enforcing laws
against gaming. That was late in
1925, and the track has been idle
since.
Many legal battles ensued, but the
state won all the skirmiSheS over
the legality Of racing and pari-
mutuel betting.
The opening was suspicious.
There we're IS trainers on hand with
4S7 greyhounds. The parimutuel
machines clicked and first week
profits were estimated at $4,000.
The next week races were held with
out pari-mutuels and losses were
sustained. Owners Of the plant
gradually dropped their fight and
the track changed hands several
times, until finally a $4,000 mort
gage was foreclosed.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16


new things for fans to think about
outside of teams managers and
games.
Hurlers for the opening day have
been tentatively decided and an
nounced, although several mana
gers said the choice was between
two Of their hurlers.
Two Charles were to face each
other on the mound at Dallas,
where jake Atz and his Fort
Worth Katz were to renew the an
cient warfare. Sullivan was the
probable choice of the Atzmen, and
Barnabe was slated for Steer ilill
duty. Dick Whitworth was a Cow
town second possibility with Dickie
Schuman in the same roll for Dali
las.
The Wichita Falls Spudders were
due in Shreveport tonight to tackle
the Sports. Milt Steengrafe or
George Payne were the selections
of j. Alvin Gardeners crew, and the
battery of Brown and Tobin was
announced today for the Sports.
The Texas league champions
from Houston have either Paul
Wachtel or Ad Lindsey for mound
duty in their game at Beaumont
against the Exporters. Newman or
Hanson was to work for the Ship
perS.
Waco's Cubs will work behind
either Lefty Stein or Earl Caldwell
in their game at San Antonio.
Either Messenger or Shea will do
hill duty for the Indians.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
HUDKINS BEATS
COAST FIGHTER
Nebraskan Outpoints Heav-
Ter Opponent In Ten
Fast Rounds

LOS ANGELES, April 16.-(P-
Ace Hudkins, Nebraska wildcat"
has diSproved the old ring theory
that "a good big man is better than
a good little man."
The middleweight from the mid
dleweSt stepped out Of his class
here last night to administer a
beating to Armand Emanuel, San
Francisco heavyweight. Hudkins en-
tered the ring at 166 1-8 pounds,
10 pounds over his normal weight
to meet the 175-pounder from the
Bay city.
Emanuel was cerdited with taking
but one round-the tenth, while the
first and eighth were judged about
even. The other seven were given
to the Nebraskan.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
Mighty Babe Yields TO
Cupid;s Famous Curue

bureau accompanied by Mrs. Hodg-
ION and another woman.
City Clerk Michael j. Cruise, who
issued the license, offered to marry
the famous ball player and Mrs.
Hodgson at once, but Ruth declined,
reminding Cruise rne baseball sea-
son "opens tomorrow"
Mrs. Hodgson gave her age as %.
She said she was the daughter OF
Mr.. and Mrs. James Monroe Mer-
rift and was born in Jefferson, Ga.
She said her first husband, Frank
Hodgson was dead. She has a
daughter, Julia
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16

Russell Scarritt has proved to the
satisfaction of Bill Carrigan that
his 1928 performance Of batting 1854
and fielding .981 in the American
Association was no .fluke.
This young outfielder who spent
1927 and 1928 with st. Paul has
shown better than any other Red
Sox outfielder this spring and ma
turally will be in the starting lineup.
Scarritt throws right handed and
bats from the other side. He is
Is years old. is S feet. 10 inches
tall and weighs 158 pounds. His
home is at Pensacola, Fla.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16

In knocking over Golida, Garcia
gave one of the cleverest and fast
est fighting exhibitions ever put on
her. He showed to his best against
Golinda, who, despite the fact that
he was absorbing plenty Of punish
ment, kept coming in. Garcia's
style is similar to that used by Kid
Pancho, Chico CisneroS and and
others Of their ilk.
He is extremely fast, an accurate
puncher and uses a lodging, weav-
ing style that makes him a poor
target for anything less than bird
shot at so yards.
X. o. In Sixth
Garcia contended to pour in a
long succession Of cert jabs in the
first four rounds that lesSened Co.
linda's stamina considerably. Then
he came out evidently with the in
tention of winding up his evenings
work in the fifth round. He bore
down hard and soon had Golinda
groggy. Garcia completed his eff
fort in the opening seconds of the
| sixth, sending Golinda to the can
4 vas I'LL q OOQ1lI VI 1l11lC. 4f41hC SlOA-
| gily reeled to his feet and Garcia
put on the finishing touches. The
referee could have tolled many more
than 10.
Cowboy Brooks, 166 pounds, Of
South Dakota, had a little trouble
In disposing of Battling" Swede,
156 pounds, of San Antonio, by the
K. O.. route in the fourth inning of
the semi-final fracas. They opened
up cautiously but were mixing it up
rather warmly by the third round.
! The Swede seemed to be using his
left leg as a guard.
Brooks uncorked several stiff
Punches in the fourth and the
Swede sunk to the canvas with gore
rushing from his battered mouth
and nose. He got up at nine and
went down again. The SWede took
five and arised to his knees but
there he remained until the referee
had called out the fatal or life-sav-
ing ten.
Sada Not Present
Jesse saba, who was to have
fought Kid Guerra Of San Benito,
failed to put in his appearance and
Berto Avalos of Brownsville substi-
tuted, sprang a surprise by staying
the entire e%ight-round route. The
San Benito rooster" had evidently
left his gaffs at home. He appeared
overturned, stale. Avalos was ex-
pected to entertain the fans for
about four innings before he fell
before Guerra but he did not fall
and was there throwing them from
the opening bell to the last gong.
He badly injured his hand in the
fifth inning but gave no evidence Of
it during the fight.
He was aggressive despite the
known k. o. residing IN GUerra's
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16

NEW YORK, April 16.-E9-
George Herman Babe) Ruth was
III the Yankee lineup for the open
ing game of the season today with
a license to marry Mrs. Claire Hodg-
son, former actress and a widow.
The home I'll king had made the
date Of the ceremony a matter of
speculation by fixing it vaguely yes
terday for some day this week"
The license was obtained yeSter-
day at the New York municipal
building. The Babe appeared at the
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio, April TO-
R-Performers in G. G. Pyle's
bunion derby saw the last Of their
troubles in Ohio waning in today's
trip to Richmond, Ind.
Their experiences during the last
few days included attachment by a
New York automobile company OF
the motor caravan, cold weather
made worse by rain, and evidences
of lack of interest in Pyle's great as
semblage of acting talent.
Seth Gonzales, of Ration, New
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
Pete Gauuzzi Leads Pyle
Derby Into Indiana Today

Mexico, quit after the run here from
Columbus because he didn't feel
like running any more"
Pyle said he expected to clear up
financial matters and secure re-
lease Of his cars.
Pete Gavuzzi, the bearded South
ampton, England. pavement polisher
faced the 63-mile run into Indiana
with nearly an hours jump on the
field.
The runner in reaching Spring
field completed 672.6 miles Of their
3400 canter to the coast.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16

MERCEDES Carlos Garcia.
Mexico City. knocked out Mike Co
linda, Mercedes, co. Cowboy"
Brooks knocked out Battling"
Swede "a. Kid Guerra outpointed
Berto Avalos ca. lefty" Ray out
pointed Angel Garcia Co.
(By the Associated Press)
NEW YORK. - Arthur Dekuh,
Italy, outpointed Big Boy Peterson,
New Orleans, do). Mike Sanko-
witch, Passaic, N. j., outpointed
George Larocco, New York. Q0).
Leo williams, New York, knocked
out Leo Mitchell. California, Cd.
PHILADELPHIA. - King Tut,
Minneapolis. %outpointed Honeyboy
Fianegan, Boston, (10).
CHICAGO.-Len Darcy Grand
Rapids, Mich, o%utpointed Chief
Hack Elkhart, Pueblo. Colo, (8).
JACKSON, Mich.-George God
frey, Leiperville. Pa, knocked out
Farmer Lodge, Minneapolis, (2).
PERU, ul.-Genaro Pine, Cuba,
knocked out Jackie Coogan, In
dianapolis, go.
BUFFALO, ". Y.-Black Bill,
Cuba. stopped Hal Stevenson, Buff
falo, 90.
ST. LOUIS.-Johnny Pee Wee
Kaiser, st. Louis. o~utpointed joey
Rivers, Kansas City. Q0). Her
bert Baby" Stribling, Macon, Ca,
outpointed Eddie Goldberg, st.
Louis, ca.
LOS ANGELES.-Ace Eudkins,
Nebraska, outpoir1ted Armand
Emanuel, San Francisco, (10).
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
GOING HOME AGAIN

JOPLIN, Mo-, April 16-P-Hor-
ton Smith, young golfer who Gre
ated a sensation during the win
ter tournament season, plans to re-
turn to Joplin where he is q profess
sional at the local club after the
British open in which he will COM
pete. He plans also to invest part
of his winnings in stock Of the
club.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
ARE
HELD

WASHINGTON, April 16.-(P-
Railroad round trip passenger fare
levels, IS now scheduled by trans
continental carriers, -r~-~ held rea-
sonable today by the Interstate
Commerce commission in dismiss
ing without action a complaint OIL
the subject made by the San Diego,
Calf, Chamber Of Commerce.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
ID CUP TEAM
IN GREAT BRITAIN

PLYMOUTH, England. April Is.
American Ryder cup
team, golf professionals. headed by
their captain, Walter Hagen, arrived
here today aboard the Nj pretania.
breathing confidence tt would
take back to America wiz them
England's premier golf trophy.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
Sport Trail
Blazing The
BY ALAN j. GOULD
ASSOCIATED Press Sports Editor

You can hear a flock of COMPARE
SONS between the old and the new
generation flying about almost any
day. Is Horton Smith a better golf
er now at 20 than Bobby Jones was
at the same tender age? Is Lacoste
or Ruth or Hornsby a greater all
around asset on the ball field than
was Ty Cobb or Hans Wagner?
From there you car so into a
debate on the relative merits of the
new Chicago Cubs, which Joe Nc
Carthy is leading forth with high
pennant hopes this year, as COM
pared with the famous machine pi-
loted by the late Frank Chance.
Before you start look over these
line-upS.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
FISH DYNAMITED IN RIO

RIO DE JANEIRO P-Fishing
with dynamite is practiced regularly
in the Ilarbor of Brazil's capital and
recently brought forth strong pro-
tests in local press.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
NATIONAL LEAGUE

WHERE THEY OPEN
National League
Pittsburgh at Chicago.
New York at Philadelphia.
st. Louis at Cincinnati.
Brooklyn at Boston.
American League
Boston at New York.
Philadelphia at Washington.
Detroit at Cleveland.
Chicago at st. Louis.
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
Garcia Knocks Out
GoLinda in Sixth;
Guerra, Brooks Win
Especial to The HERALD

MERCEDES, April 16A furry of resoundng socks in the sixth
round OF the main event OF the boxing card held here Monday evening
sent Mike Goinda, 1873 pounds, sprawling to the canvas and ended Ye
Complete Boxing Lessonne as delivered by Prot. Carlos Garcia, who also
timed the heam IT I2 nun
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
Cubs With Ho1msby
And Yankees With
Ruth Are Magnets
BY HERBERT w. BARKER
Associated Press Sports Writer

threatening weather was forecast this morning for six of the eight
cities where old King Baseball was to come into his own after taking a
back seat since last October.
Fr the Pittsburgh and Chicago teams, due to clash at Chicago in the
feature game OF the National leagues opening day schedule, the outlook
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16
O O,OOO FANS to CROWD PARKS FOR SEASON OPENING
League Will
Celebrate Opening
In Big Way Today
- q

DALLAS, April 16-R-Plan for opening day celebrations have been
completed at Shreveport, Beaumont, Dallas and San Antonio, where the
fans will get their first glimpse OF the athletes in action in a league game
New uniforms, a new park at Beaumont and a new name for the San
Antonio PLAYERS. who are Bears no longer. but Indians. are among the
Brownsville herald. [volume] (Brownsville, Tex.) 1910-current, 1929-04-16

The comparison Of the great
teams of the past with those OF the
present has its difficulties. Times
and STYLES have changed. AS Jonn
Heydler remarked:
"They played for one run III the
old days, but now they 60 after them
in clusters. One run in the mod
ern game is just a drop in the
bucket" That was why the OLD
Cubs, with a marvellous defense ana
great twirling tsaff coud win SO
many pennants without heavy MT
ting.
The Yankees, current worlds
champions, have been labelled the
greatest Of all time by many
critics. No question exists that
they have compiled the greatest at
lacking record, but adherents OF the
Cubs. as well as the old Orioles OF
Baltimore and Athletics Of Phila-
delphia, will concede nothing more.