Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1929-10-29
SENATORS ATTACK
GRUNDY'S IDEAS
Borah and Walsh Lead in
Scoring Pennsylvania
in Lobby Probe.

The Senate lobby investigating COM
mittee today drew from Joseph r.
Grundy, veteran legislative representa-
tive of Pennsylvania industrialists, his
conception of what the American politi-
cal system should be and then spent
more than two hours attacking him
on virtually every position he took
With Senators Borah, Republican. of
Idaho and Walsh, Democrat, of Mon
tana leading the way, Grundy, president
Of the Pennsylvania Manufacturers AS
sociation, was carried into On extensive
discussion Of the protective tariff as
q policy, the conduct OF Senators. in
imical to the interests Of industrialists
and the responsibilities of the Republic
can party under the Kansas City plat
form.
II think it is a very great mis-
fortune" Grundy said at one point,
that each State was given two Sem
ators." He expressed the opinion that
the smaller States should depend upon
the industrial States for views on the
tariff and that when Western Senator's
talked they should talk "darned small" +"
Blaine Scores With Sarcasm.
"You would be satisfied with the
present system If you could control all
the Senator'S" Senator Blaine, Repub-
lican, of Wisconsin, remarked.
Grundy did not answer directly. you
would have no objection to the system
If the people sent here Representatives
of the type of William s. Vare," Blaine
pursued.
1T don't care to get into personalities,
Grundy answered.
well. then. of the type Of G. L.
Eyanson of the Connecticut Manu-
facturers' Association"
Grundy again paused and asked that
the question be repeated.
Blaine Challenges Grundy.
Blaine, half rising, shouted. Look
me squarely in the eye and answer II
you dare" Grundy again demurred.
Senator Walsh addressed himself
particularly to a table which Grundy
had submitted in a previous appear
ance, showing the amount of taxes paid
by seven of the smaller Western States
and containing the assertion that the
comparison Of these figures with a
State like Pennsylvania justified the
opinion that II volume Of voice were
proportionate to the population and
productive power of State like Penn
sylvania, the people in these Western
States would need amplifiers to make
their whispers heard" In that state
ment he said also that "the truth of
the matter is that certain States" such
as Arizona, South Dakota, Idaho and
Mississippi, pay into the Federal Treas
ury less money in taxes than 1t costs
to collect them. He referred to Penn-
sylvania as being "hamstrung by ad-
verse legislation" and described the
State as supporting these backward
Commonwealths"
Have No Chips in Game"
Senators Walsh and Caraway ham,
mered at Grundy and at one point the
witness said that when one studies these
Western States he finds that when
you come to analyze their part in the
national life of the country they haven't
any chips in the game"
"They found that out long ago."
Chairman Caraway observed.
Grundy, complacent and studied In
his response to questions In the face
of marked antagonism on the part OF
the committee, continued:
! "These people, 1t seems to me, are in
effect trying to destroy the great reser-
voirs of income and 1t is a tragedy, to
my mind, that these small States could
destroy the protective tariff system"
Its your view, then," asked Caraway.
that wealth, and not States, ought to
elect Senator'S"
mo" said Grundy, 81 wouldn't 90
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