New Britain herald. [microfilm reel] (New Britain, Conn.) 1890-1976, 1928-09-19
DETECTIVES MADE
DEFENSE WITNESSES
Called to Testify in Behalf Of
Raymond and Lalone
TELL OF CONVERSATIONS

Defense Seeks to Show State Tried
to Get One to Turn States Wit
ness-PrOsecution Seeks to Show
Admission OF Guilt BY Inference.
Willimantic, Sept. 10 LP-The two
men who prepared the states case
against Roland G. Lalone and AL
bert J. Raymond. charged with the
murder of State Trooper Irving H.
Nelson ,st .Pomfret on April 9Th,
were Gained on today by the defense
to testffv as to n conversation with
Raymond at Brooklyn Jail on Sep
tember 10. They were Lieutenant
Ross V. Trquhart OF the state police
and County Detective William Jack
son who had already testified for the
state.
Crquhart who was on the stand
when court adjourned yesterday was
asked today if the purpose OF the
visit which he and Jackson made to
Raymond was not to get Raymond
to turn states evidence in the case.
lrquhart was insistent that he did
not know that was to be the purpose
of the visit. He said:
II have already stated that we
visited Raymond to see if he could
give us any additional information
or wanted to change his story"
The witness was asked if he could
recall any other details of the visit.
He said he recalled that the different
degrees of the crime OF murder were
discussed. Defense Counsel Moyni-
han conducted the examination of
the witness. He asked the latter if
that stateemnt alone did not tend
to show that some sort of overtures
had been made to Raymond.
Irquhart said mo"
He was asked if he had talked
with Lalone.
He said mo.
He was then asked if he at any
time had hear Raymond say You're
a liar"
The witness said he had not.
John H. Fittz, deputy sheriff and
one Of those assigned to guard the
prisoners in the court room, was
called by the defense as the next
witness. He was asked if he was at
Brooklyn Jail at the time Trquhart
and Jackson visited Raymond. He
was asked where he was standing
when Crquhart. Jackson and Ray
mond were in the Jail chapel.
He said: "Just outside the door"
Moynihan asked: did you hear
Raymond say You're a liar'?''
Fittz said: II did"
Special Prosecutor Harvey asked
Fittz If he had been talking with the
defense counsel He said he had not. |
He was asked if he had talked with
Raymond or Lalone as to the re-
mark he had heard and said he did |
not think so, but might have men,
toned it to another deputy sheriff. |
There were no further questions
County Detective jackson, called |
by the defense. was questioned by |
Mr.. Hall regarding his connection
with the investigation of the case.
NE sdlu MS inquiry was from lne |
time OF the murder up till the return
of the men from Springfield. He |
went into detail as to conversations i
at Brooklyn jail Raymond asked |
him, he said, how Connecticut tried /
Its murder cases.
i told him that a man could be
tried by a jury or by three judges"
said Jackson. II said that if / were
innocent I'd take three judges and
Raymond Immediately said I'VE i
want the jury"
Hall asked the witness: Did you
gather any inference from that"
jackson piled: II certainly did"
Hall kcd: "Do ! understand that
If man picks jury trial you infer
hat something is wrong?"
At this point Judge Edward NJ.
I Yeomans interrupted to say that
remarks of this kind should not be
brought out. Turning toward the
Jury the court. said: THE accused
have every right to pick the sort of
rial they want and no differences