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Evening star., 1928-05-02
TABLOID OPERA
ON WRC TONIGHT
Weekly Features to Be Offer
ed--WMAL to Broadcast
Movie Producers Dinner.

Msscagni's opera "L'Amico Fritz"
(Friend Frits) will be sung by the Ma
tional Grand Opera Co. in tabloid form
tonight as one of the outstanding at
fractions on the program Of wRC. The
story of the opera is laid in Alsace, The
cast which will sing the radio version
includes Rosalie Wolf, soprano; Devora
Nadworney, contralto: Julian Oliver
tenor: Steele JamiSon, tenor, Ferruclo
Corr3detu baritone. and Nino Ruisi
bass.
The weekly program Of the Goodrich
Orchestra and Quartet contains vari-
ETY. Of features. One will be a musical
depletion Of the happenings in a clock
store. In this Will be heard the striking
OF various clocks as well as the regular
nethooical tick tocS.
An American family group listening
st home TO their radio will provide the
setting for a magazine hour to be
broadcast at O'Clock The Kit Hour
Of music. scheduled at O'Clock, will
present Msrtino RoSSi. baritone
The regular concert Of the Tpana
TTouosdours, late dance program by
the Hotel Manger Orchestra and a re-
sumo Of the political situation in Wash
4AAAto4 PN ETSQtTlC William Vile are
WRCs other attractions
WMAL's principal contribution TO "a
Clio entertainment tonight will be q
broadcast OF the program incidental 10
the banquet at the Carlton Hotel Of the
moving picture producers in convention
In Washington. This feature will be on
the air from 7:30 10 $50 o'clock and
viii be followed by a concert bv the
Hawaiian Melody Boys. music memory
contest and late news flashes.
AS usual. the Thirty Club meeting will
open the program at SIS o'clock. TONY
the Barber" viii follow with his Liter
ary Lather"
The Watch Tower Half Hour. hints
for radio listeners by The Radio Bug"
dinner concert and a review Of the
news events Of the day hy the Town
Crier are the attractions scheduled this
evening by wRHF. The program will he
broadcast between 5.45 and Z O'Clock.
A variety OF musical features inter-
sperSed with g talk by Representative
Jones Of Texas and the weekly resume
OF congressional activities by Charles
!, Stengle make up the program tonight
Of Wifi. The principal musical at
traction viii be provided by the Wash
ington College Of Music.
Evening star., 1928-05-02
TABULATES RECORD
Of ATLANTIC HOP
National Broadcasting Co.
Giving Details of Trip by
German-IriSh Flyers.

Another conquest of the air was being
recorded today by officials of the Ma
tional BroadcaSting Co. as they tabu-
lated returns on the results of the
worldwide hookup which was estab-
liShed for Mondays reception by New
York City to the German-Irish trans
atlantic flyers.
Besides broadcasting the proceedings
to every interested American and Ca
madam through chain Of nearly 70
stations in the Nationals red, blue and
Pacific Coast networks. the ether car
ried the story of the reception overseas
to Germany and Ireland the homes OF
the heroes: to England. Scotland,
France. Australia. South Africa, South
America and Cuba.
Long Distance Details.
The long-distance transmission was
achieved by rebroadcasts of the pro-
ceedings through short-wave stations at
| Schenectady and Pittsburgh. The two
| experimental Short-wave senders OF the
| General Electric Corporation at Schenec-
tady were hooked up with WGY, the
| Schenectady link in the national chain,
| station 2XAF operating on 81 a meters
| and 2XAD operating on 2l96 meters.
| The Westinghouse short-Wave station at
| Fast Pittsburgh. 8XK, rebr0adcast the
program as received by station KDKA.
| on a 62-meter wave length.
While reports from the foreign lands
we're slow in coming in, officials of the
! National Broadcasting Co, said they
were confident the reception has been
! heard almost around the world. This
| confidence was based on previous re-
| suits obtained by the three short wave
sending stations The two Schenectady
/ stations, on previous occasions. have
successfully transmitted programs to
/ Germany, England. France, South
! Africa. Australia, Argentina and Cuba
| The Pittsburgh station has been re-
ceived readily in England. France. Ger
many. Scotland and South Africa.
Events Thoroughly Covered.
The reception to the flyers, Incl
/ dentally was one of the most thoroughly
| covered events the radio announcers
| have ever attempted. The entire ma
/ tional chain was given over to the story
| Of the reception from 10 am. to 3 pm
| and WOR. the key station for the
/ Columbia network. devoted its entire
! day to the flyers, the crowds they drew
| and the houors heaped upon them. An
airplane. carrying. 2XAQ, a short wave
! transmitter, linked up to WOR and the
| Columbia network, gave an aerial de-
| scription of the harbor scene when the
| flyers. on board the municipal well
come ship Macon, LANDED at the Bat
! terry.
Evening star., 1928-05-02
CENTRAL
s26--kYW ChIeago---5s()


S.00--..Naricty hour,
q a:00--Studio feature.
10 .S0---Ca anaughs.
3ss.6--wEBH.w Wild ChIcaEo---S20
S:oo--Chil6reN' hour,
q 00---Dance: features.
4i6.4-wGN-WLlR ChlcaTo--T20
:So-Mexicap baritone.
10 .C0---FeatureS, Shln NGN.
2I4.6--WI.S Chicngo-Sf0
o.0o--ForEotten operas
10 :G0--Populsr rroEram.
4:s.3--WLW Cincinnati--T00
6IA-~Memories; dance.
,On~-Champlou SpaTkers.
$ n0--Philco hour.
q .nn--Instrumcntal trio.
9;45--Studio: organ; dance.
sst a---WSAI Cincinpati--S30
6,Op--Varinus features.
S.0n---Insna Trouhadours.
: So--Gopdrich hour
q So--Nstional gran opera.
sos.s-wTAM Cieveland--750
e:0O--Neapolitans
: 30--6rasclli hour.
S.CO--Ipana Tvouhadoura.
s 9n--Gnodrich hour.
3 2O--National grand opera.
44O.s-wCN.wJR Detrolt---6s0
soo-Dinner @ music; features.
: On--Chamnton Sparkcrs.
: 30--Serenadcrs.
Merry Three, Pioneers,
s Sn--Narietv hnur.
qOO--Hits @ and hits.
30--Orches'ra.
3a..f-WWl Detrolt-Ss0
< .in---Orchestra.
q S0--Dlnner concert
0n--C roVeli hour
po--Ipans Trouhadonrs.
= S0---tsuodliCh hour
q S0--OrCau recital
Evening star., 1928-05-02
HUGE TUNNEL OPENED
BY PRESIDENTS TOUCH
Presses Button That Explodes
Final Blast in $25. 10000 Con-
struction in Cascade Mountains.
By the Associated Press

BY the Associated Press
SEATTLE. wash. May 2.-The fifth
largest tunnel in the world was holed
through under the Cascade Mountains
in Washington at ! pm. yesterday, by
dynamite blast set off by electricity.
when President Coolidge in Washing
ton. D. c., pressed a button. The tun-
mel is being constructed by the Great
Northern Railway at a cost of SIS 6,000.-
600. Electrification and line changes
will bring the total expenditure to
SIS. 900. 600.
The tunnel is 100 miles east of
Seattle and is ITO miles long. It will
eliminate curves. lower the maximum
elevation of the road 500 feet and
shorten the line miles
Next December. three years after con-
struction was begun. it is planned for
the first train to run through it.
Evening star., 1928-05-02
Sam Finds a Job.

Correspondence OF the Associated Press
BIRMINGHAM. Ala.--The modern
prison system. which assigns prisoners
to duties for which they are best
equipped. has utilized the talent OF Sam
Longman. Before he fell afoul of pro-
hibition laws he was champion hog
caller of Jefferson County. Now he is
jail announcer
Evening star., 1928-05-02
Women Run Argentine Lifts.

Correspondence of the Associated Press.
BUENOS AIRES-A department
store has supplanted male elevator
operators with women, and calls the re-
suit satisfactory. The sight OF women
operating lifts Is unusual here.
Evening star., 1928-05-02
RADIOS BEST OFFERINGS

TONIGHT.
7:00--Magazine hour: Listening
to the radio--WEAF, WEEI,
VITO, WAR, WTAG, WCSH,
WILT, WRC, WGY, WGR,
WCAE, WWJ.
s:0O--Operetta in Miniature: Mu-
sical features-WOR, WCAU,
WNAC, WEAN, WFBL, WMAK,
WCAO, WAS, WADC, WA1U,
WKRC, WGHP.
S:30--Goodrich hour; Variety pro-
rran-WEAF, WEEI, VITO,
WAR, WTAG, WCSH, WILT,
WRC. WGY, WGR, WCAE,
WTAM, WWJ, WSAI, WGN,
WHAS, .WSM, VINO, WSB,
WHIT.
.o0-Columbia hour: Feature
WOR. WCAU, WNAC, WEAN,
WFBL. WMAK, WCAO, WAS,
WADC, WAIU. WKRC, WGHP.
9:00-Little Club Orchestra
WIZ, WBAL.
:3O-National Grand Opera
"I'Amico Fritz'--WEAF, VITO,
WTAG, WCSH. WILT, WRC,
WGR. WCAE, WTAM, WSAI,
WHAS, WSB.
Evening star., 1928-05-02

Connecticut courts have held that
wives who ride with their husbands in
motor cars and are injured through
proven negligence III operation MAJ
recover dahages from their husbands.
Evening star., 1928-05-02
LONG RANCE RADIO ENTERTAINMENT

WEDNESDAY, MAY 2, 1923.
Programs Scheduled for Eastern
letters klocpcleS on rtoh
Evening star., 1928-05-02
Local Radio Entertainment
Wednesday, May 2, 1923
NAA-WaShington Navy Yard s4S4.S
Meterx-690 KilocycIesl.

NAA-Washington Navy Yard l4s4.S
Meterx-690 Kilocyclesl.
3:4s pm.-weatner Bureau reports
a:55 pm.-Arlington time signals.
1905 pm.-Weatf1er Bureau reports.
WRHF--American Broadcasting Co.
(3224 Mefers-93a KiiOcyclesl.
s:z5 pm.-The Town Crier.
pm.-watcfl Tower half hour.
$50 pIn.-Htnts for the Listener, "
By The Radio Bug"
SIS to Z pm.-Dinner concert.
Early Program Tomorrow.
10 am.-Eiousehold talk. by Gladys
Young
1926 a.m--Health talk. By DR.. W. S
Whitman.
1880 a.m.-Musical program.
II TO 1870 a-m.-Advertisers' period.
WMAL-Waxhington Radio Forum
GALS Meters-1,24e Kilocyelesl.
SIS p.m.-Tnirty Club. conducted by
A. Cloyd Gill
7:I5 pm.-"Itterary Lather." by
''Tony the Barber"
7:3o pm.-Progran incidental to the
banquet Of movie producers at Carlton
Hotel
$50 pm.-Hawaiian Melody Boys.
lo:f5 10 1880 pm.-Late news
wTFF-The Fellowship Forum l202.t
Meters-I,4Se KilocycIesl.
Z pm.-Paragon' Dance Orchestra
7:5e pm-~Fanily Advisory Service,
by Jane Alden.
9 pm-"whats Doing In Congress.
by Charles l. Etengle.
ais pm.-Hsroid Thompson, pianist
$50 pm.-Taik By Representative
Jones Of Texas.
s:45 p.m.-Virginia Buford, composer.
pianist
Q pm.-cnick Godfrey. the Singing
Marine.
e:f5 pm.-Eouthern Troubahours.
$50 p.m-Tom Robertson, baniolst.
Gas pam.--Wilson's Orchestra Of old.
time fiddlers.
1918 pm-washington College o
Music hour
WRC-Radio Corporation Of America
l4GS.5 Meters--649 KiloeyclesI.
3 pm.-Studio program.
ais pm.--Nanhattan Trio.
345 p.m.-"Stsge and Screen" b!
Frank Armeg
pm-Twilight hour
S pm-Wsldorf-A Astoria Orchestra.
555 .n.--Motior picture guide.
$50 pm-Ease ball scores courteg,
Of Associated Press and The EVENING
Star.
6 pm.-KiTt hour of music present.
1ng Msrt31o Rossi. baritone.
Gas pm.-~"Tne Political Situation II
Washington" by Frederic William Vile
pm.-~Nagazine hour.
pm-Ipana TroubadouTs.
$50 pTn.--Gooorich Quartet and Or
clsestra
e.30 prn.-~CorYect time
$50 p.m.~~Kational Grand oper;
Ensemble. presenting "L'Amico Fritz ="
10 30 pm Weather forecast.
1890 70 II pm. n.-~IOtus Orchestra.
Rariy Program Tomorrow.
Gas am Tower health exercises.
tbs a an1.--Parnasst1s Trio.
T:50 10 f:50 sn1,--EheeTlo.
am.-~-Dr Royal s. Copeland hour.
10 sm.-Ssfudlo program
1915 An.-~Raloio Household Insti
t1te.
1870 Kn.-~stuoto program.
II noon-~lCTgan recital
/ pn.--IIou4s Orchestra.
pm -~PaFTlaGGus Trio
ais pm g-~t Concentration BY PROT
Ernest WOOD.
2.50 Kn,--faadisnna pazmoor 80
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1928-01-18
CUBA OFFICIAL
PAYS TRIBUTE
TO COOLIDGE
DR.. Ortiz Urges Delegates ia
Direct Efforts Toward
Amity and Goodwill

Havana, Jan. 18.-(F-The sixth
Pan-American conference opened its
business sessions about IL o'clock
this morning, wit DR.. Martinez
Ortiz, Cuban secretary Of state, de.
livering the address + welcome ia
the delegates Of all the American
countries.
Paying tribute to President Cool
idge and the United States, DR..
Ortiz dwelt on the good work accom-
plished at previous conferences and
admonished his hearers to direct
their efforts toward an,ity and good
will.
;. Alexandra Leira, chief Of the
Chilean delegation. replied, express
ing faith in the progress of Pan
Americanism and in the benefits
which Pan-American conferences
were bestowing, not only on the
western hemisphere, but on the
world in general.
Prior to the opening Of the con-
ference, Z flag raising. ceremony
outside, in which the standards Of
all countries represented were
raised, aroused the enthusiasm Of
the great crowd which had been as
sembling since early morning.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1928-01-18
S. w. Thompson Of
Devils Lake Speaks
at Kiwanis Meeting

Severt w. Thompson Of Devils
Lake was the principal speaker at
the weekly meeting Of the Kiwanis
club Tuesday. Mr.. Thompson i'd
dressed members Of the club on the
subject Of diversion Of the waters
Of the Missouri river.
r. B. Murphy spoke briefly On his
recent trip to Washington, p. G..
where he attended : meeting Of the
Democratic national committee. H.
C. Frahm was chairman Of the days
program. :.
The following were guests Of the
Eale. Il Porte, 1Ed.; J: y: Thompson
son of Devils Lake; ". g. Croker.
Lisbon; John F. Strauss. Harvey;
william Krekcw, Streeter; n. G.
Kale. La Porte. Ind: J. 4. Thompson.
Wilton; George Woerner, Creat
Bend; George Schmidt, Linton; J. =.
Davis. Goodrich: Walter Bond,
Minot, and r. G. Mcfarland, James
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1928-01-18
GANGSTERS
BLAMED FOR
3 KILLINGS
Bodies of Three Men Found
Along Road This Morning in
Suburbs of Chicago

Chicago, Jan. 18.-(AP)-Three
men believed by the police to be
bootleggers or gangsters were found
slain In Chicago Heights and Steger,
suburbs, today. Two bodies were
found In a ditch beside the road near
Chicago Heights and the third body
was found in Steger.
The three men all appeared to be
foreigners. One OF the bodies OF
the Chicago Heights victims was
identified as that OF Joseph Sasso,
of that town. The bodies at Chica-
70 Heights were discovered by a
man ON his way to work and shortly
afterward the body Of the third man
was found in Steger.
The police said there was every
indication that the men all had been
taken for a ride" by their enemies
and shot, and their bodies dumped
from an automobile as it passed
along the road from Steger to Chi
cago Heights.
The body Of the second Chicago
Heights victim was identified as
Joseph CaziandO, 20 years old. Sasso
also was 20 years old.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1928-01-18
odd FELLOWS
CARNIVAL WILL
OPEN THURSDAY
Complete Change of Program
Promised Each Night at
Indoor Mardi Gras

Doors of Patterson hall will be
thrown open to the general public
Thursday night at O'clock for the
opening Of the three-day Madri
Gras which is being staged here by
Thurston, King & Munsor Inc,
under the auspices of the local Odd
Fellows lodge. All proceeds from
the carnival will be used by the local
lodge in providing entertainment for
the grand lodge convention which
will be held in Bismarck in June.
The indoC. circus and carnival is
said to be the greatest indoor event
of its kind ever produced in Bis
marck and will provide entertain
ment galore for all who attend.
Band Will Play
Prior to the opening of the doors
at 8 o'clock Thursday night, q 80
piece concert band will play on the
streets, later leading the parade to
the Madri Gras. The band will play
throughout the evening at the hall,
and the opening nights festivities
will be broadcast by station KFYR
between 8 and 10 o'clock. A clown
band will furnish music Friday and
Saturday nights.
Patrons Of the carnival will be
offered z complete change Of enter
tainment each Of the three nights.
On the program will be stunts per-
haps never before seen in the state,
games. music and booths Of all
kinds where shows will be given and
merchandise sold.
The question on the tongues Of
everyone IL "Who will be the
queen :" The queen Of the carnival
will be chosen by votes which may
be obtained during the three nights
Of entertainment. The voting will
close at II o'clock Saturday night
and the queen will be crowned amid
appropriate ceremonies following
the counting Of the last votes. She
will also receive valuable diamond
ring.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1928-01-18
SINGER KILLS
HERSELF AFTER
MAKING DEBUT
Disappointed When Newspaper
Critics Give Her Only
Casual Mention

New York, Jan. 1S.-(Ap)-Thea
Marovska, 3O-year.old lyric singer
OF haunting folk-songs, made her
debut at a New York theatre last
Sunday.
It was just another debut to the
critics and most Of the city, but to
Miss Marovska It was the realiza-
ton Of many years Of dreams, study
and privations.
The audience. many Of them her
friends. applauded politely at the
conclusion Of her recital and went
home. Newspaper critics, for the
most part, gave her appearance only
casual mention.
Unfortunately" wrote one critic
"Mme. Marovska cannot sing. Her
sense Of pitch Is SO flagrantly mex
act that It neutralizes her other
wise delightful performance. She
should confine herself to the spoken
word and the public would be hers
Other reviewers did not even say
whether she was good or bad.
Heartbroken. Miss Marovska tele.
phoned Arthur Warner, associate {
editor Of the Nation, who had be-
friended her in her struggles. He
invited her to his Brooklyn apart
ment and when he arrived home
last night found her body, fully
clothed, in q bath tub, . tube, ct.
tached to an open gas jet, in heI
mouth.
II an Z failure IN my vocation and
Il - now too late to make q new
start" she said In q farewell note
In private life she was Dorothy
Meirowsky, and came to this couu:
try q Z child from Russia. Sh<
studied hare and abroad ~unde:
noted instructors.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1928-01-18
PLANE. TRYING
TO ESTABLISH
FLIGHT RECORD
Spirit Of California Took Off
Yesterday Morning and Is
Still In Air

San Francisco. Jan. 1S.-(F-In
her fourth attempt to break the
world record for sustained flight
by an airplane, the trimotored Fox
ker monoplanc, esprit Of Califor.
nia," today is circling over northern
California.
The plane took off here at 500
a. m. yesterday, and flew over this
section Of the state throughout the
day and last night. With weather
conditions favorable, the pilots,
Captain Charles Kingsford-Smith,
Australian air ace, and Lieutenant
George O. Pond, U. S. ~, slowed
down the engines late last night to
conserve the gasoline supply. The
propellers registered only 1920
revolutions per minute.
More Gasoline Aboard
The plane came within about
three hours of. breaking the record
in a previous attempt. Gasoline
shortage forced the flyers to de-
scend, and they determined to profit
by that experience. Tanks for 200
extra gallons Of fuel were built on
the plane before the last take-off.
The record, So hours 22 minutes and
81 seconds, was set by German avia-
tors. To establish . new record
officially, the aviators must beat
the old mark by IN hour.
The Spirit Of California carried
1886 gallons Of gasoline ut the
take off. This is believed to be one
Of the biggest fuel loads ever lifted
by a heavier-than-air craft.
Overseas Hop Postponed
The big plane was purchased sew.
eral months ago by Kingsford.
Smith and three others for = flight
from California to Australia
Christened as the Southern Cross,
It made several test flights and
then postponed the overseas attempt
In favor Of the endurance flights.
Kingsford-Smith and his col
leagues are expected to resume
plans for the Australian flight il
the present effort to break the en-.
durance record is successful.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1928-01-18
STATE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM
FOR 1928 WILL PROVIDE ALL WEATHER
ROADS FOR most OF BURLElCH COUNTY
crosram Calls For Graveline
1854 Miles Of Main High
ways in This County, Grad
ing Of II Miles and Oiling Of
Three Miles-Much Work
Planned For Morton County
Also

Practically all of the main high
ways through Burleigh -ounty will
be graveled at the close Of this year
Il the construction program issued
today by the state highway depart
ment for 1928 is carried out.
The program calls for graveling
Of 36.4 miles Of main highway in this
county, and grading of IL miles, in
addition to three miles Of road
oiling.
Graveling projects in the county
this year include 1l.9 miles on U. 5.
highway 10 from the Kidder county
line west, 1913 miles on state highway
6 from Wilton south, and 1872 miles
on U. S. highway 50 from Sterling
south to the Emmons county line.
The grading project for this county
is IL miles on state road 6 north
from Bismarck.
All.Weather Roads
When these projects are COM
pleted the state highway leading in
to Bismarck from the Minot direction
will be standard graded for its en-
tire length and graveled from Will
ton south to Baldwin, The balance
Of this road from Baldwin to Bis1
marck will be graded to standard
specifications during the summer
and will no doubt be graveled next
year.
u. s. highway 10 has now been
graded to standard specifications
4or It's entire length. through Bur-
leigh coenty and this will be all
graveled by the middle Of this sum-
mer. Graveling projects are also
planned for Kidder and Stutsman
counties this year, 30 that by fall
the main highway across the state
from east to west will be graveled
from Bismarck to Fargo. The road
from jamestown east has been
graveled for several years.
Crawling Of u. S. highway 50
from Sterling south to the Emnons
county line will also maze this main
artery leading into Bismarck from
the south central part Of the state
m all-weather road, as it is already
graveled in Emmons county.
70 Oh Three Miles
The road oiling project will extend
for throe miles directly east Of Bis
marck. from the end Of the pave
ment on Main avenue past the state
penitentiasy. This work will be
raid for BY the state and the North
eEn Pacific railway company on :
$3.50 basis. the estimated ost being
Grading q s5.7 miles Of highway
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1928-01-18
SIX-F00T RISE
IS PREDICTED
FOR BIG MUDDY
Flood Waters Of Yellowstone
River Are Now Coming
Down Missouri River

Raising one foot in the past q
hours with . predicted rise Of six
feet in the next 48 hours, the Mis-
souri, river 1t Bismarck today
threatened to 60 = rampage as tho
crest Of the flood waters Of the yell
lowstone river swept in . huge tor.
rent through northwestern North
Dakota.
Widespread uneasiness is felt
along the Big Muddy by iceMen,
boatmen and people living adjacent
to the menacing stream, - Sanish
reported . six-foot rise Tuesday
night and Washburn registered =
one-foot lift Of the ice sheet that
has not yet broken up.
Warning Iasued
keep in touch with the weather
bureau at Bismarck" was the warn
ing issued today by @. w. Roberts.
federal meteorologist, to al people
living adjacent to the river.
Considerable anxiety for the gov.
ernment ripraping that is under
construction at Stanton was mani.
fest todav.
Floods in the Missouri river bot
toms and other lowlands along the
stream are unlikely unless there Is
. general breakup Of the ice sheet,
Mr.. Roberts said.
Danger Of m ice breakup Is small
unless there is Z period Of unseason-
able mild weather Or unless the
flood waters impound themselves
behind . sandbar and ice wall in
which case there would b local