Richmond planet., 1928-09-29


ing N an interview wIlh a journal
and Guide reporter, that he had any
connection or correspondence WIN
Alfred chapman, white, former head
of the c. and o. pass bureau, and
declared that he procured al the
passes from Rev. j. S. Hatcher, OF
Roanoke, Va, in perfectly good
faith.
His sworn statement to the au-
thorities, a copy of which he showed
10 the reporter, follows:
@. How did you come in posses
son of the information that there
was free transportation to the Elks
convent on in Chicago?
A. was at meeting at Hampton
Va. and got my lnformalon from
the Rev. j. S. Hatcher, colored, OF
Roanoke, Va. and on my return
home sent him SIS. 90 for which
ne sent me a pass in favor Of Rev.
7. D. Lee, Minister of Religion, not
good on sleeping and parlor cars,
reading Norfolk, Va. to Chicago, III
and return, July 9Th, 1928, expires
October 31st, 1928. l could not see
anything wrong with this pass then
for l used it with my wife making
the trip to Chicago and return. l
spoke to several of my friends about
the lower rate to Chicago, they asked
me 10 get them one if could. Later
on 1 wrote to Rev. j. S. Hatcher
on several occasions, each time send
ing him SIS 90 for each pass, giving
him the man or woman's name that
wanted the pass. At no time did !
request one Of those passes to be
issued in mans name as Minister
of Religion. The first man that /
received one of those passes for was
for my brother, ]. S. Lee, OF New
pert News. I noticed that this pass
was issued for the Rev. j. S. Zee.
1 did not request it to be issued IN
this way. I sent the Rev. j. 8.
Hatcher SIS 90 for this pass, which
my brother gave me. received seS
eral other passes from the Rev. J.
S. Hatcher for which I sent him
$500 each. To the best Of my
knowledge, got one for each OF the
following: Bertha Holt, Georgia
Brewer. Mable Lee, Grace Cornicks,
Elizabeth Lowry, Laura Carter,
Edgar Clark, H. T. Clark, P. j.
Brown
@. Is Brown minister?
A. No, sir. I think he is an in
surance man.
@. Are the two Clarks ministers?
Did Won get a pass for H IT. Clark
and Edgar Clark?
A. Yes I did for H. T. Clark and
Edgar Clark of Newport News, Va.
and neither are ministers of religion
o. Rev. Lee, in making requests
for these passes TO the Rev. j. s.
Hatcher, did you always give the
name Of the parry that wanted the
pass and did +he pass come made
81 II tha' name?
A. Yes sir. In one case got a
poes for p ] Brown of Norfolk Va
apd the pass came in the name Of
the Rev. P. J. Brown. Minister Of
religion. I returned this pass to the
Rev. J. s, Hatcher for correction
and the Rev. J. s. Hatcher mailed
the pass back to Brown
@. What is the Rev. ]. S.
Hatcher's address in Roanoke, Va?
A. James s. Hatcher, 81 Gilmer
Avenue. N. E.. Roanoke, Va, Mt.
Zion A. NJ. E. Church.
@. I have given you the names Of
several other passes that were rode
out of Norfolk, Va. to Chicago, do
you remember if these passes were
gotten for these people?
A. l have given you the names
of those that am positive of getting
passes for, there might be some
others that I do not recall.
O. You state that you had no
idea that there was anything wrong
with those passes?
A. ! examined each one carefully
and each appeared to be right, as
received each Of them from Rev. j.
s. Hatcher, who is a minister of
religion and I did not think he
would give them to me if they were
wrong. II I had thought they were
wrong, I would not have made a
trp with my wife.
Signed, Rev. T. D. LEE.