The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1928-02-15


Johnson retorted hotly and
Judge McCabe stopped the wran-
gle.
Odd you at any time give
Jackson the sum of $4,000 in
connection with this transaction?
Jones objected again, but the
Governor tapped him on the
shoulder and whispered in his
ear. Jones said:
The Governor has asked us to
withdraw all objections and to let
the witness tell all he wants to-"
Queried on $4,000
Odd you give $4,000 to Jack
son at any time? A-That is not
a definite question, MI. Johnson.
wish you'd clear it for me.
Odd you give Jackson any sum
of money or $4,000 for the purpose
of paying it to McCray? A-AS
that question is propounded, my
answer is no.
Odd you give McCray $4,000
for any purpose? Al offered it to
him through Noel.
johnson said he had made a mis-
take in the question.
, Odd you give jackson $4,000
for any purpose that he saw fit to
use it? Ayes.
Q-Tell all details of the situation.
Alt isn't identified in my mind
that way.
Says He Gave $4,000
Odd you give him $4,000? A
Yes.
Q-When? AIT different times.
Odd you do this about the time
Evans was resigning or had re-
signed? Al don't know,
johnson then got him to admit
that he put $4,000 in an envelope
in a strong box at the Washington
Hotel few days prior to the APP
pointment.
Q-To whom did you give the
money? A-Marsh, first.
Q-Who paid it back to you? At
came back to me in an envelope, 1
think, and was given to me by
Marsh.
Q-When? A few days after
the appointment was made.
Stephenson said he did not re-
member where this letter transac-
ton took place. He repeated that he
kept the money in a strong box at
the hotel and added cor at my
home
Doesn't Recall Companions
He said he did not recall whether
any one was present when he gave
the money or when he received it
in return.
Odd you have any converse
ton with Jackson in regard to CIV
ing the money to Marsh? Ayes,
I told him I was willing to contrib
ute to McCray's defense fund if he
appointed the candidate of our
group to the Office of prosecuting
attorney. He said I was generous
in making this offer, but didn't
know how McCray would feel about
it. He said he would try to get in
touch with some of McCray's
friends.
Stephenson said he had some
conversation with jackson after the
appointment was made. He said it
was day or two after and proba-
bly, while he was in the secretary
of States Office or at lunch with
the defendant.
Stephenson said he did not know
what State attorneys referred to
when they asked him If he talked
to Jackson about the situation a
few days after McCray refused to
appoint Mcdonald. y
McCray Gets Scare
Stephenson said they had thrown
a scare into McCray," but that he
had told them, IT was able to ex-
plain my part of it,"
AT conference after they had
failed to control the appointment,
some one said: 1--WE have thrown
a scare into the heart of McCray
and put the fear of God into him,
and he will never talk about it,"
Stephenson added that he had
said: I'm not going to worry; I'm
able to explain my part Of it,"
Q-Was that in the presence of
Jackson? Al don't recall whether
it was or not.
A-Was it said at any conference
where Jackson was present? Al
suppose it was.
Q-Who said that? Al don't
remember exactly. but I believe
Jackson was present.
Surprised to Get Money
Asked what became of the $4,000,
Stephenson said:
Il was surprised to get it back"
When Johnson sought to have
Stephenson tell what contributions
he had made to Jackson'S campaign
expenses "up until Jan. l, 1926" the
defense objected and the court held
the opinion that the questioning was
needless, although he would not
order it barred.
Odd you give Jackson any
other sum of money before Jan.
!, 1924? Ayes.
GLOW much? Aim not 60
ing to get into anything not
germane to the matter here I'M
less the court orders it.
Odd you have anything to do
with Jacksons primary campaign
for Governor? Ayes, did ev-
erything could. Some of the
things I don't care to brag about
just now.
Defense Gets Witness
Johnson turned the witness over
to the defense. Clyde Jones took up
the questioning, Stephenson turn
ing slightly in his chair and NOV
ing, for the time being his left hand
from his chin and mouth, which