The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1928-02-16

, phenson wanted to talk to me on
an important matter extremely
confidential. I took them into my
corner room and they sat and a
conversation ensued. Marsh said
little. Stephenson said he had
come to talk to me as McCray's
attorney and was particularly de-
sirous that Mcdonald be appointed
to succeed Evans.
I told Stephenson I had Just
read in the noon edition of The
News of Remy's appointment. I
said, Il suppose that settled the
matter" Stephenson said no COM
mission has been issued and al
though the announcement is in
the paper. it was still open. He
said, I'VE want Mcdonald APP
pointed. We've just got to have
him in the interest of Jackson for
we can't elect him without Marion
County"
said knew that McCray, after
making the announcement, wouldn't
think of recalling it. ] thought it
was useless to suggest anyone else.
Control of Underworld
Stephenson said, I'VE don't care
If Remy is nominated at the pri-
mary, but we want the Office dur
ing primary and election" He said
it would mean 10000 votes for Jack
son if he could control the under
world. Stephenson said, I'VE have
$4,000 to turn over to McCray for
attorneys fees. if McCray will ap-
point Mcdonald and further we will
guarantee McCray will not be con-
victed on any charge in any court
in Indiana
I said, That's a large undertake
ing"
Stephenson said, Il know what
I'm talking about. I've an organiza-
ton in Indiana that 7 can call upon
any time for anything. If you want
to find out what any man in Indi-
ana is doing tonight, I can find out
tor you by tomorrow morning"
Want McCray Decision
He wanted me to take it up with
NlIOAdA4 OuD l. OAHU L hllCW NAttNllJ
What McCray would say; that in
the first place, Remy's appointment
was settled and in the second the
Governor would enter into no bar
gain. That was about the giSt Of
the conversation as I recall it now
Stephenson said, 81 want McCray's
decision. He's got to decide it, Mr.
Renly is a good friend of the Gov
ernor's and will be willing to step
aside. Remy certainly would give
prather than see his benefactor.
McCray. in the penitentary for
twenty years.
Explained Proposition
Odd he say anything else? A
He asked me to convey the PROPOSE
ton of $4,000 to Governor McCray
and to let me know the Governors
answer.
Odd he call at a future date?
Ale did. Monday about a. m.
I said I had told the Governor of
the proposition and that he refused
to entertain or to discuss it. I told
him I had the answer I had
prophesied I would have.
Con the first occasion. was
Marsh in the same room during the
conversation? Ale was.
Q-Was he with Stephenson the
second time? Al can't remember,
some one was with him. The inter
view was short.
Q-What else was said at this in
terview? Ale said Remy is a
young upstart, that he was willing
to Sc McCray go to the penitentiary,
rather than give up the appoint
ment until elected.
Asked No Questions
Clyde Jones took up cross exami-
nation for the defense.
Q-Is it true Stephenson was at
your office before noon and back at
p. m. that same day? A-No, only
once that day.
Q-You fixed the time in your
mind by the fact that the noon
edition of the newspapers was out
and you had seen Mr.. RemyS pic
ture? Ayes.
Odd he show you the money?
Ale did not. He used the eX-
preston, 1--WE have the $4,000" 7
asked no questions. He said jn
cash.
Noel then testified that McCray
was out of his Office that after
noon and since Stephenson had
asked for a conference with him
CNoeD the following Monday he
told McCray about it on Sunday,
the next day.
Q-You told McCray about this?
Ayes, but he said he did not want
to discuss it at all, because Remy
was to be appointed.
Odd McCray say anything to
you about jackson making him an
offer? A-No.
Close Political Friends
Noel testified that he did not hear
of this alleged offer until three or
four days before The Times printed
the story. He said Gurley and
Prince had called on him and re-
lated the situation. That he told
them he didn't know anything
about it.
Jones then brought out that Nc
Cray and Noel were close friends
politically and socially prior to the
McCray trial and that during the
trial they were more intimate than
they had been previously,
Noel stated that Marsh had talked
to him after the alleged bride Of
fer story was printed and that he
told Marsh that he had not revealed
If