Plentywood herald. [volume] (Plentywood, Mont.) 1908-current, 1928-10-25

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it, is that what you used?
A. l don't know how to describe
the envelope exactly; it was anyway
some kind of container.
G. Are you willing definitely to
swear that bond 26 for one thousand
dollars issued BY Sheridan County on
the first day of April. 1925, was in
that safe on the 30th day Of Novem-
Der? A. May I see that schedule,
please. schedule of proof Of loss?
Q. haven't the one you were
reading from. l haven't got that.
l don't know which it was.
BY The Court: Let him have the
schedule of loss.
BY Mr.. Hurd: l don't know which
n he WAS reading from; that is the
n he had. A. Bond No. 90? O.
Yesg A. Yes. sir.
q. Now, Mr.. Torstenson, it is a
fact, isn't it, that you haven't no per-
sonal knowledge of that matter. but
have testified merely on the theory
that some such bonds as these were
delivered to you at SOM time?
A. am testifying under the know
ledge that those bonds were there at
the time of the robbery.
q. When did these bonds come in
to your possession as County Treas
urer! A. In the spring of 1926, or
IN the summer. @. What time in the
spring? A. Well, l don't remember:
1925, mean, summer of 1925 | mean
z. Came in there in the summer
OF 1875? A. Spring or summer of
1925.
Z. Had you in the month of No
vember, 1926, examined the pouch
that you say these bonds were in so
as to turn out the contents and see
what was in it? A. | don't remem-
Der.
q. Do you remember that you
ever did. after you say the bonds
came into your office, that you made
a check to determine that they were
still there? A. Yes.
Q. Did you do that? A. l know
they were all checked when Mr.. Will
Hams was there.
Q. That is the last time that YOU
have any knowledge of anybody
checking up this particular group Of
bonds deposited by the Citizens State
Bank of Doley, that is correct, isn't
it? A. Yes; l couldn't give no dates.
Q. And you don't want to be even
understood as saying that you ever
checked them yourself at all, do you?
A. Yes, I did several times.
Q. The check you are talking
about is the one you say Mr.. Williams
made; did you help him do the check
ing at that time? A. I certainly
did.
G. You took out all these pouches
and emptied out the contents and
there was a check made? A. There
was.
@. But after Mr.. Williams left
there you didn't pay any further at
tention to these bonds at all, did your
A. l can't remember.
G. Now, is the same true of the
group of bonds which you say was
deposited by the Security State Bank
OF Outlook, ten in number, being re-
funding bonds? A. Yes.
@. The same is true of that. And
is the same true of the group of
bonds, being funding bonds of Sheri-
dan County, numbers 1879 to 1853 in
elusive and twenty in number, say,
is the same true? A. Yes.
q. You did not check them after
Mr.. Williams was up there in Sep
TENDER, 1926, as far as you know? A.
| can't remember.
G. Don't remember anything about
that And is the same true of the
reminding bonds, numbers, /, 2, 3, 4
and 5, of a thousand dollars denomi-
nation, deposited by the Farmers
& Merchants State Bank of Plenty
wood? A. That is the general
q. You don't know a thing about
those bonds after Mr.. Williams was
there, do you! A. I certainly do
know, but can't give any date.
witness Continuing: | don't know
as ] do know the distinction between
a matter Of my own personal knouI-
edge and concluding that they were
there by reason Of something that has
come into my mind and was entered
INTO my books-dont understand
what you are getting at. / under
stand a man learns a fact by seeing.
touching, smelling, tasting or hear
ing; that that is the way he has Of
acquiring personal knowledge. On
the Both day Of November I could see
that these bonds were there in the
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