The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1928-02-15
Detailed testimony in the
trial of Governor Ed Jackson
in Criminal Court follows:

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trial of Governor Ed Jackson
in Criminal Court follows:
Cross examination by Defense At
torney Kivett sought to impeach
State Witness Fred B. Robinson
former State purchasing agent
Tuesday afternoon and to indicate
that because Robinson was not given
an appointment to the board of
trustees of the Indiana State Re
formatory at Pendleton he was dis
grountled and in a mood to NSeek
revenge against the Governor.
Kivett's opening questions were
intended to show that Robinson
had Jared we'll through his political
endeavors, being the owner of ar
eight-room house at 1926 Broadway
and a warehouse and filling station
at COL Kentucky Ave.
Jackson Not in Conversation
The only point the defense was
able to bring out relative to Robin
sons going to McCray'S Office with
the alleged offer was that Jackson
took no part in the conversation
that resulted in Robinson'S carrying
the message.
Earlier in the day he testified
that jackson was in the room and
he had been sent by Jackson, Coffin
and Lyons to see McCray.
However, he stuck to his original
story that jackson told him, after
McCray rejected the offer that he
had mot put it in a strong enough
light"
do you remember going to Jack
sons Office with a Dr. Carter, seek
ing an appropriation for equipment
at the tuberculosis sanatorium at
Rockville, Ind,?" Kivett asked.
Eyes; in September or October
1927" Robinson replied; latter
Sept. 80, think because that's the
end of the States fiscal year and
the Governor said he would give us
enough out of the contingent fund. "
Denies Such Conversation
Q-Was it not on or about July /.
Al don't think it was that early.
Didn't you step back to the
Governor before you went out and
tell him you wanted to arrange to
get some State contracts and the
Governor said "You can't do that,
you're now a State officer?" A
No (Robinson laughed, there was
no such conversation.
Robinson then was questioned
about his acquaintance with Nc
Cray, which he said dated back to
the time they were Small lads in
knee breeches."
He told of having been McCray's
Ninth district campaign manager in
McCrays 1920 primary campaign
and of having been one of three
men in charge of McCray's primary
campaign in 1920.
He himself directed McCray's
campaign for election, after the pri-
marieS in 1920 and when the in
ference was drawn that McCray be-
came indebted to him he admitted
he was paid for such of his man
agerial duties as were directed from
McCray headquarters at the Sew
erin.
When inquiry turned to the New
burgh Coal Company, Robinson said
he understood Julian was interested
in it, but thai he didn't know Ste
phenSon was Julian's partner.
Quizzed on Lyons Acquaintance
Q-You knew, did you not, that
when a certain State institution
terminated its contract with the
Newburgh Coal Company that 81 $50
Of the States money was turned
over to the company on Feb. II,
1928? Not on my recommended
ton.
Questioned as to his first ac-
quaintance with Robert Lyons, Rob-
inson first said it was in 1924, and
a few moments later corrected his
story to make their acquaintance
begin in 1922.
Il always remember dates
through associating them with
something else" he said. II was
wrong about 1924. It should have
been 1922"
He said he believed he first met
Lyons in a room at the Lincoln,
where he went to see Walter
Bossert.
Q-Was this man Bossert what
they called Grand Dragon of the
Indiana Ku-Klux Khan? Al never
was much on those titleS-he was
head of the Indiana Khan as /
understood it.
Q-Have you met Mr.. Gurley, edi-
tor of the Times. Ayes.
Q-When was that? Ale came
to my house the night before went
to testify before the grand jury.
Q-Did you converse with him
about this case? Awe talked gen.
erally/about it. He came in connec-
ton with this matter.
Q-Did he have with him what
purported to be a statement or af-
fidavit? Ayes.
Q-Did you ever see something of
this kind supposed to have been
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