The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1928-02-15

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Q-Ever hear of it. A-No, sir.
Con what day did you go be-
fore the grand jury? A-Along
about the end of Augustine 30th
or 31st.
Robinson then said that it was
the day or the day following that
when the story appeared in The In
dianapolis Times relative to his con-
nection with the case.
Asked to Face Jury
He said that he was not sub
poenaed before the grand jury, but
had heard he was to be called and
so called johnson on the phone,
telling him he rather would come
voluntarily.
Q-What time of day did you go
before the grand jury? A-After
a. m.
Q-You went without a subpoena
after talking to Gurley of the Times?
A-Thats right.
Q-What time did Gurley leave
your home? About 9 p. m.
Gle was there in the night
time? A-That's right, about 1880.
Q-And after that you presented
yourself for admission to the grand
jury room. Ayes, that's right.
Robinson said that he learned of
McCray's financial difficulties in
1928, but denied soliciting funds or
borrowing money for him. He adj
mitted borrowing money from Eph
Daley, of FIT. Wayne, member of the
State industrial board, which he adj
mitted he probably would have
turned over to McCray.
Borrows Other Sums
He said he borrowed in this man
ner $500 each from Harry B. Smith,
former state adjutant general, and
Oscar Rats, former public service
commissioner, but that he had paid
Smith the money back. Altogether,
he borrowed $4,000 he said, and to
date has repaid $4,000 of it. He
said: 81 suppose Daley was inter-
ested in Mr.. McCray, too?"
Kivett then turned the question
ing in the direction Of Robison's So
licitation of an appointment on the
board of trustees of the Indiana
State Reformatory. The advances
first we're made through Mccoy,
Robinson said, but later he dis
cussed the matter with Jackson on
several occasions, he asserted.
Robinson related that after the
1927 legislative session he talked 20
Jackson about it and was told that
the Governor was going to appoint
a man named Harrison at Attica
to the board because of his especial
fitness.
Expected Appointment
Robinson said he understood he
was to be appointed to the board,
however, when the term of Joe Hen
ming expired "this spring or next"
Kivett brought replies from the
witness to show that he had not
conferred with the Governor since
Aug. 81, 1927, when the bribery story
was related in The Times.
Q-You knew this story in The
Times had been printed? Ayes.
Q-You knew it was a miSrepre-
sentation? A-Well, there were some
statements there didn't approve Of. |
Robinson was asked questions that |
took him back to his conversation |
with Daley regarding the McCray
situation.
Q-Did you not tell Daley that
Stephenson would have given $10,-
600 if Mcdonald had been ap-
pointed? Al don't remember.
Robinson had a, firing experience
under Kivett's questioning which
continually sought to confuse him
on details. The witness was asked
where Evans stood when he (Rob-
insom carried the alleged bribe
offer to McCray, did McCray say
"Howdy" or Good morning" what
tone of voice he used, and was
called upon to relate, as near as he
could, the exact phraseology of his
message from the alleged con-
spirators.
Discrepancies Sought
AS he went slowly over the con-
versation again, Kivett scanned a.
transcript of the mornings testi-
mony for discrepancies.
Robinson said he and McCray
had discussed the case when they
went to Bloomington together last
fall to a football game.
Cross closed at 4:3OI
p. m, Kivett asking the privilege for
another question or two later if he
desired.
On redirect questioning by Remy,
Robinson was able to explain several
points on which defense insistence
upon Eyes" and mo" answers had
curbed his explanations.
, He described further Gurley's
visit to his home and said:
IT finally told Gurley he could ask
me one question and if chose to
answer it, would, and if I didn't I
wouldn't, and that the conversation
would end right there.
80 he asked: Did you go to
McCray's Office before or after
Governor Jackson
IT said, BEFORE and the CONVEX
sation ended"
D. C. Stephenson today took the
stand shortly after Robinson had
answered few minor questions and
temporarily was excused. When |
Stephenson came in whispers Of |
there's D. c." filled the courtroom.
He testified that he had known
George v. Coffin, Governor Ed Jack
son and Robert I. Marsh since "early
in the spring of 1922. He said he
had social and political relations
with them and that Jackson called
at his home and he called at Jack |
sons house several times, also that
he and Marsh exchanged visits.
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