Evening star., 1928-05-31
Ku KIux Attorney Asserts Ma
tionaI Body Has No ConneC-
ton With State Work.
REPORTER is QUESTIONED
IN NORTH CAROL INA ROW
Smell Declines to Discuss Motives
of House in Ordering Fund
Investigation
Ry tine Assnciateta Press

| By tine Associated Press
Testimony that the Ku Klux Khan
| had paid Senator Heflin. Democrat,
Alabama, implacable foe of Gov. Alfred
E. Smiths presidential candidacy, for
| speeches in various States was given
today by William Zumbrunn, general
counsel for the organization, before the
Senate presidential campaign commit
tee.
Zumbrunn told Chairman Steiwer
that the Klan national body had no
connection with the work of the State
organizations.
Has the Klan spent any money to
call attention to the fact that any of
the presidential candidates is of the
Catholic faith?" the Oregon Senator
asked.
mot a cent, SO far as the national
body is concerned" Zumbrunn re-
piled.
States Circulate Speeches.
Steiwer asked what the Khan had
done TO circulate Senate speeches by
Senator Heflin, and the witness replied
that the national organization had done
however. that State leaders had told
him Of arranging for Hef1in speeches.
The Klan attorney told the commit
tee that ii could get information about
payments 70 Hefiin from these State
Klan leaders: Joe Huntington Of In
diauapolis. Ralph w Hoyt Of Des
Moines. James w. Colescott OF Column
bus and DR.. Amos w Duncan of Char
lotte
II Hefin was paid for his recent
speech against Smith at Winston
Salem N. c.. zumbrunn said he did
not know it.. He added, however. that
ne might have been and that DR.. Dun
can could give the facts.
When Hefiin started these speeches
they we're devoted wholly TO relations
between the United States and Mexico.
and II Smiths name was mentioned II
xas purely incidental" Zufnbrunn eaid.
We've sort Of 6Tifted into that"
No Relation 10 Forum.
What relationship has the Fellow
hip Forum to the KIan2" asked Senator
Barley, Democrat, Kentucky, referring
70 . weekly published here.
No relationship whatever" was the
reply. But II Is sympathetic"
The Khan counsel said the meetings
N@Sd2&EEA W 6A4S 0@ASE GAS15zS WEfE start
ed 70 help KIan organization and were
not political Id Character. other men
ct national prominence beside Hefiin
were brought into the various States. he
said.
John A. Livingstone, Washington cor
respondent o. the Raleigh. n. c., News
and Observer. and the Winston -Ealem
Journal, read statement 10 the COM
n71ttee explaining the basis on which
fle published a story OF the Smith gum
shoe campaign" in that State For
that have no apology TO make" he
said.
Denies Being Paid.
Livingston denied that he had sup
Piled the committee or anyone else
With names or information as TO the
situation III North Carolina, aside from
his news dispatches telling Of a secret"
Smith organization. He also denied
that he had been paid by anybody for
political wcrK
Livingston said the Smith organlza-
ton in North Carolina had denied its
very existence
THE only other organization We had
In the State which did that was the
K. X K" he ADDED
The witness denied any knowledge Of
Smith campaign expenditures III North
Carolina, and said he had never made
any charges in that regard in his ar
ticies. Frank B. Hampton, secretary 70
Senator Simmons, Democrat, North
Carolina, had furnished hin consider
able information for his articles. he
testified,
HeHin 10 Appear.
after Livingston was excused the COM
nsittee ss1sDerl6ed Until 2 pm. when
Senator Ee15in IL 70 appear.
Representative Smell u New York de-
eiiaed 10 discuss the motives" Of the
House Of Representatives m adopting &
resolution providing for q special com.
nalttee 10 Investigate presidential and
congressional campaign expenditures.
4 dos5tys that this committee has any
right to 90 into the motives of the
House Of Representatives" grseu tod
GenztoE ESrkleg, Democrat, Kentucky,
Ia reply ~ a question ~ 10 Tnetnef
James r. Watson ~ New York had
given him any Information on when
ssls House resolution Was bASe6, Wat
sgr Is the publicity head Of the New
York State Republican committees.
4 ara rot axaqViging into tle motives
! u t5ae HOUSE" EeDAs0r Barley cz"
F ysz3sse1 Il want W know whether Mr.
. Wst9aA g&se you any information On
Xsa.en tf9e House resolution was based. 4"
Smell Pet Under Oath,
~ tlast point Chairman EtejweF re-
. tailed t5gaI EB@Il nad not been sworn,
( ~ Ese put tfle chairman Of the HosIse
/ F9ses COMMITTEES under oatl1,
TaeD glaeiI SAID tta&t Watson fao
not given hin "tst OF definite egi~
ee9sce ~ any kind, nature on deseTip-
ton" concerning expenditures on be-
f3zgl ~ tfas caDc.oScy ~ Or, Alfred
r, Smith
The 1Alk mad with Mr., Watson
gzs 2bzyGt Al Smiths Fecgrc At Govern
~ NJ new Iork +" assaeil explained. ''He
n9fgsgt bzye fzsksd W me about Tam
many EaJj's part III the nomination Of
GOV Smith"
After fEse Ee@ York Representative
gss1 gSfe be- had to information se-
Il.