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The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1927-07-20
Billy Petrolle
<. O.S Ed Brady

Fargo, N. d., July 2O.-LR-Billy
Pe.roiie, the. Fargo Express, knocked
out Eddie Brady, Brooklyn, after 46
seconds Of fighting in the first round
OF. their scheduled 10 round bout here
last night. Petrolle caught Brady
with short right hook on the chin
as they met in the center of the ring.
Brady went down for a count Of nine.
Petrolle landed two !efts and rights
to the head in rapid succession and
Brady again went down. He was
met with q barrage Of blows when
he arose and he went down and out.
They weighed under 1873 pounds.
Russie Leroy, Fargo weltcrweight,
suffered - setback at the hands of
Altman Ryan Of st. Paul. Leroy
landed the, heftier punches but Van
Ryan made him miss often and
scored continuously with his left. /.
Earl Blue Of St. Paul knocked out
Bob Gilbert of New Hayen, Conn.,,
after one minute and 70 seconds Of
fighting in the first round. x ter
rifle left hook to the body sent Gil
bert to the floor in . helpless con-
spud Murphy, Moorhead junior
Lightweight, outpointed Len Schaw-
bel Of st. Paul in sizzling battle.
Murphy's punches carried plenty Of
steam, the St. Paul fighter being
1ro9gy on several occasions.
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If lose there will be no alibi no
second come back and l quit forever
the game | love. ! never have made
an excuse before and | won't start
now. But put it down in the book
III take that Sharkey kid in just
two punches"
And the Dempsey who ended train
ing today to depart for the scene of
the battle in New York appeared fis
TO do just that.
Was Sluggish
Three weeks ago Jack was fat, slow
OF foot and sluggish, despite his
early training grind in California.
ne weighed 205 pounds. There was a
pad OF excess flesh around his abdo-
men and hips. His legs were heavy
and the thickness Of unnecessary
weight was on his shoulders.
Today the Dempsey who seeks to
storm n comeback trail too rugged
Tor any other former heavyweight
champion to conquer, is lean, trim
and vicious. Stomach muscles are
hard as nails. His waist is narrow,
legs are thin and speedy. Through
his shoulders and back writhe mus
cles that stretch and flex under a
sun-blackened skin that covers not
an ounce of excess flesh.
Mental Attitude, Impressive
Most impressive Of al is Dempsey's
mental attitude toward the coming
struggle. Gone was the fiery young
ster who wasted energy recklessly
at every turn Of the training grind
because of youthful zeal that could
not be held in check. In his place is
the calm veteran. conserving every
thing for the night Of battle that
means either fistic oblivion or an
other shot at the title Gene Tunney
won last fall at Philadelphia.
In the last two workouts Demp-
sey has progressed with rushing
drive that has appeared almost start
ling to the few remaining war CORE
spondents. Weight seemed to slim
from him suddenly, and speed infuse
in him. overnight as the vim and
dash OF. physical perfection arrived
exactly at the proper moment. The
sluggish Dempsey Of the early week
was lost in a figure reminiscent of
Toledo and Boyle's Thirty Acres days.
Dempsey's weight, around 200 for a
week. dropped to 1913 and the form
er champion is expected to entei
the ring scarcely two pounds over
that figure.
Dempsey's schedule today calls for
trip to Albany about II a. m. He
will catch a train for New York
where he will go into seclusion at q
hotel until the fight.
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The breast stroke
teaching swimming and is still widely used.
Take position in the head raised
the mouth out the water Place the in 'front.' fiat
then downward and
that there will be little bending the elbows gets
better. " - o.
Aim make the pull that approach the
line they still will
the water in the following which calls Sweep
to bring the hands together -
Then turn the hands upward palm down fingers ahead
thrust the forward starting position about
ten to twelve inches below the surface when they the
the become extended and the full making
another drive. "'"e
TO do the frog kick correctly the and
the lower the draw apart trife
but with normal the
the feet. " - ~
Them together feet slightly sraghten at knees
and ankles and with vigorous outward and backward swing whip
the together Relax
have finished their backward ~ 80
Do the slowly
will be muscular " 80
TOMORROW: Diving for beginners
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80 GAME WIN
CLASS VACANT
Many Want to Break Into Sc.
lcct Circle of American
TWirlerS

New York, July 2O.-(P,-Wi!l an
American League pitcher succeed in
breaking into the 30-game victory
class this season?
That's question going the rounds
as the teams in the Johnsonian or
ganiZation swing into the final half
of the campaign.
Not since big jim" Bagby turned
IN ii triumphs for the Cleveland
Indians back in 1920 has hurles
IN the Junior wheel reached the
thirty figure. That's span OF
seven years.
The three best records in the in
term were hung up by Urban
Shocker, then with the Browns, Eddie
Rommcl of the Athletics and George
Uhle of Cleveland. Each won q
games. Shocker did it in 1921, ROM
mel in 1922 and Uhle last season.
Rommel's effort bordered on the sem
sational in that he established it with
seventh place club.
Lyons Looks Good
This year Ted Lyons of the White
Sox stands the best chance OF reach
ing the coveted 3O-win brigade. With
the chase half over, Ted had copied
Ia trays. He'll have to better that
gait slightly in order to make the
grade. AL Thomas of the same team
and Waite Hoyt, Yankees stand out
as the only other American League
hurlers with chance to break into
the uncommon class.
While the 30-victOry stunt is much
out of the ordinary these days, it
wasn't an unusual piece of work IS
or 20 years ago. In fact, two twirlcrs
in the American circuit reached the
40 win mark in the days when pitch
ers didn't spend most of the week
squatting on the bench.
In 1904 Jack ChesbrO, famous spit
balier Of the Yankees, chalked up Al
successes for the leagues premier
winning record. Four years later Ed
Walsh Of the White Sox turned in
~. Walsh was on the mound in 66
games that season, working the re-
Llarkable total Of AGA innings.
CHESHIRE, Walsh High
Although Chesbro and Walsh boas,
the largest number of victories for
single season, the best average
belongs to Joe Wood. In 1912 while
pitching for the Red Sox. Wood COM
piled record Of "a wins against
but five defeats for an 1872 per-
Torrance.
The following campaign Walter
Johnson of the Senator's achieved his
greatest percentage, winning 36
games and losing seven, an 1897 aver
are. incidentally, Walter issued but
80 passes in SAG innings that year.
During the last few seasons but
comparatively few Johnsonian gun.
ners have turned in as many as 90
triumphs chase. Last year there
were but two-Uhle with % and
Herb Pennock of the Yankees with
23 while the year previous just four
got in-Lyons and Rommell with q,
johnson and Coveleskie with 20.
johnson is the only American
League pitcher to chalk up 20 or
more victories in two consecutive
campaigns during recent seasons
Walter got % in 1924. following with
&c the next year.
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dempsey. Webb states the punch is
known as the navy double punch"
and j. similar to the pivot punch"
The article asserts Snarkcy was
taught the punch by Lieutenant
Mickey O'Regan Of the navy, who
was the first to recognize Sharkcy's
ability rs boxer when he was a
sailor on the u.S.S. Arkansas several
years ago. Webb adds "Sharkey is
the originator of a dozen or more of
other tricky wallops which make
him dangerous to whoever his oppo-
nent may be-
Must BE Scientific
First, the user of the navy double
punch must be boxer of the ultra
scientific Sort" Webb writes. land
nc must have his wits about him
when 1t is attempted. 1t is especial
~ effective against rip-tearing
nead-on fighter of the Dempsey type.
The user of the punch lures his OBJ
ponent to come i'll. 1t is then neces-
sary to sway the body well to the left
ana twist the BODY N that direction
the required distance as to be in
position to use a backhand punch
with the right hand.
Having gotten this far, the object
OF the punch is to cut back with a
snappy backhand wallop which lands
on the right side of the opponent i
lace. In most eases this causes the
receiver to lose his balance. Before
ne can right himself he meets the
1Ill force of left hand hook clean
to the jaw.
Is Near Foul Blow
THE catch for the user of the
navy double punch is in the fact that
some people will object to the first
part of this combination of punches
as bordering perilously near foul
blow, and consequently liable to court
disqualification, but | maintain that
such is not the case.
The navy double punch is good,
clean and fair one and if Sharkey
manages to stop the ex-titleholder
with it, there will be no kick coming"
Webb coached Gene Tunney when
he was boxing coach of the American
expeditionary forces. He coached the
American Olympic boxing teams in
1870 and 1924
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THE BISMARCK TRIBUNE
Chicago Again Tops League on McG1alUS An1iUerSd1
Famous 'Exes' Give
Opinions on Bout

New York, July 20.-How
certain Mr.. Dcmpscy's chances
stand in comparison with those
Of Mr.. SharIcy was the question
asked four famous cX-chalnpiOns
today. Here are their answers:
J. J. COrbctt, x-heavyweight
champiOn--"Dempscy looks great
to me. His physical condition
is much better than it was at
the Sesqui. Skarkey will be fac
ing more vastly improved
fighter than Tunney did,
Jack MrAuliffc, ex-light weight
champion -" Unless miracle
happens in His training ] can
not see where Dempsey has more
than an outside chance Of land
ing one of his socks, Sharkcy
has everything in his favor"
Mike McTicue, cx-light heavy
weight champiOn-'.I give Jack
Sharlley the edge. lie is fine
boxer and good hitter and is
in much better shape to go a
long route and take the decision.
Eut you never can tell"
Johnny Dundee, ex feather
weight champion-'I would not
have given a thin dime for
I,empsey's chances against
clever hitter like Sharkcy until
! saw him clip Of couple Of SPAR
| saw him clip a couple Of spar.
no. Sharkey to win.
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Ahead Of the 80 year old warrio,
loomed the most dramatic night of
his career-the night when he mus,
win or quit the game he loves.
VIII Try to End Career
Eight years ago this month. a pop
eyed youth of II. thrilled as his idol!
the Young iron listed Jack Dempsey
crushed the great bulk of Jess vii
lard TO win the worlds championship
in the suffocating heat of Toledo
Thursday night in the Yankee sta
dunn that same youth, Jack Sharkey
of Boston, will attempt to end once
for all the fighting career of the man
he thought all-powerful.
II am, ready" Dempsey said today
"as ready as at any time in my life.
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DEMPSEY GOOD
AT KN0CK0UTS
Has MANY More First ROunu
kayOes to His Credit Than
Has Sharkey

White Sulphur Springs, Sara
toga Lake, \. T.. July -U.-tAP)
-Supremcly confident in his
ability 10 beat Jack Sharkey to-
morrow night, Jack Dempsey left
his training camp here this
morning for New York City and
the battle that will determine
whether at least one former
heavyweight champion can "cOmc
back With him were Leo =.
Flynn, his present manager; Jer-
ry Luyadis, his trainer, and two
other members of his staff.
Reaching New York late this
afternoon, Dempsey planned 10 go
directly to the hotel Belmont.
He will probably remain in scclu-
sion until tomorrow afternoon
when he weighs in.
So certain was the former
champion OF victory, that today
he apparently was giving little
thought To his engagement, in the
iankee Sta.ium with Sharkey
Thursday evening. He was talk
ing, instead, of the hurried trip
ne would take to Los Angeles for
n week or two of vacation be-
fore returning to White Sui
phur Springs TO train for a bout
with Gene Tunncy.
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(BY +. e.. VOSBURGH

tAssociatcd Press Sports WRITER
New York, July 20.--(R - If the
battle between Jack Dempsey and
Jack Sharkey July II is to have am
early knockout ending, records point
TO Dempsey as the man more likely
to produce it.
Coming out Of his corner with the
double barreled "kayo' cooked and
ready, the Dempsey Of old floorcd
- OF his opponents with first-round
knockouts in the course Of his bril-
lint career. That savage offcnse at
the start may be his best defense
against Sharkcy who has the advan-
cage Of youths superior stamina in
Il long drawn battle.
Must Go Back to 10
To add the ex-gob to his first
round "kayo' list, Dempsey must
bark back to 1919. Not since that
great year in which he won the title
has be finished Il foe in the first
frame.
Sharkcy's shorter record shows
but one first-round knockout, scored
over Billy Muldoon in 1924.
Both have been knocked out. Once
IN each Greer the mighty has fallen
Dempsey's conqueror was Fireman
jim Flynn who downed him for the
count in one round in 1917.
sharkey's was Romero Rojas who
Knocked the sailor helpless in the
fight IN 1924
Analysis of the evolution Of Shar-
Keys punch shows Il startling in
crease III its power in the years that
nave dampened the dynamite in
Demnsey's fists.
Now Is Dangerous Hitter
FROM a Fighter without a punch
Sharney became this year danger
Gus hitter who slashed Mike McTigue
so severely the referee stopped the
pout, and who knocked out jim Ma
ioncy IN the fifth round. These were
MS last two fights. In them Sharkev
seemed to find and use, almost for
the first time, the devastating power
OF his punch. While Sharkey's vie
tory over Wills last fall was won on
foul, the Lithuanian had all the
better of it and that battle served to
rank him among the logical contend
ers for the title.
Outstanding among psey's
great fights is his three-round knock
out of Jess Willard in Toledo in
1919 for the championship. In its
defense he, Knocked out Billy Miske
IN three rounds, Bill Brennan in IL
Georges Carpenter in four, Luis Fir
po in two, and won from Tom Glib
bons in is, before Gene Tunney out
fought him to win the crown in 10
rounds at Philadelphia.
Dempsey at 80 is a veteran Of rs
fights Of which he took AZ by knock
outs. won II. drew four and lost
three. Ten were exhibitions and
three no-decisions.
Sharkey at 25 has to his credit 10
knockouts and II victories in. 80
fights. He lost four and two were
no-decisions.
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the difficulty in that is that in set
ting yourself you are exposed 10 be-
ing hit just rs hard as you hit, and
] sec no sense in giving an opponent
better than an even break in this re-
spect. That's the reason have spe-
eialized in boxing. rather than hit
ting. | can accomplish the same
end"
Sharkey's plan of battle, he said,
has not been determined
That's up to- Dempsey. You have
to adjust yourself 10 conditions in
side the ropes rs you find them. III
70 into this fight with no set plan
Of battle"
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GOOD WEATHER FORECAST

New York. July 20.-LP
Typical "Rickard weather is
forecast for tomorrow nights
battle between Jack Dempsey and
Jack Sharkey.
In all of Tex Richards career
as promoter of championship
boxing contests. only two have
been postponed. His last bout
at Philadelphia between Tunney
and Dempsey was staged in the
ram. Unless the forecast goes
lwry, Dempsey and Sharkey will
meet a. the Yankee stadium un-
der Il clear sky.
in the event Of inclcment
weather. Richard will hold the
bout over until Friday or even
Saturday, if necessary.
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Ex-ChampiOn Is Confident
Says He's Ready - I'll
Take That Sharkey Kid in
Two Punches Is His Claim
Says Ii He Loses He'll
Leave Ring Forever
BY EDWARD J. NEIL
Associated Press Smrts Writer

Saratoga Lake, \. y, July 2O.-(A,
IT. The calm confidence of the man
physically and mentally tuned to per-
lection gripped Jack Dempsey today
as the once greet czar Of the heavy
weight division hung up his training
gloves perhaps forever.
Behind the most powerful man
modern ring history has known, lay
three months of toll in the Ventura
Mountains Of California and three
weeks of grim battling here to rebuild
the spln.&d~ two-fis.ed fighting
machine that once ruled the world
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Fights Last Night

Fargo, N. D.--Billv petrolle, Fargo.
knocked out Eddie Brady. Brooklyn
"a. al Van Ryan. st. Paul. defeated
Russie Leroy, Fargo. COY. Earl
Blue, st. Paul. knocked out Bob Gil
bert, New Haven a..
Ind;anapoiis--Myers Grace, Phila-
delphia. autpofnted Jimmy Finley,
Louisville t1O)..
Los Angeles-Baby Joe Cans, San
Diego, and Johnny O'Donneil, st.
Paul, drew (10). Billy Grimes, Aus
tralia, beat Stewart Mclean, st. Paul
(10). s. -
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ADVANCE SALE HIGH

New York, July 20. -(P)-Tex
Richard announced today that
the advance sale of tickets for
tomorrow's big fight had reached
the 100000 mark. Tomorrow
nights show is expected to draw
approximately one and one quar-
ter million dollars, the largest
gate for any non-championship
fight in history.
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SiIARhEl Is BIGGER

New York, July 20,--LPl-Jack
Sha:l.el is bigger than Jack
Dempsey in The waist, thigh and
wrist. Across the hips the fight
crs measure alike AZ inches.
Sharkcy measures 80 inches
around the waist as against
Dempsey's 81. Sharkcy's thigh
lnea urcs rs inches, onc-half
lnch bigger than Icmp5cy's, and
his fist-l0i- inches, Is half
inch smaller than that Of the
Manassa maulcf. \ wrist meas
urement Of eight inches gave
Sharkey quarter inch advan-
sage. They wear shoes Of the
Sare size, l0l..
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Lith. Thinks He'll Win;
Dempsey Expects Success
Fight Facts

by The Associate Prcss)
Principals: William Iarri-
sen (Jach Dempsey, aged 81.
CT Los Angeles. and Jack
Sharkey of Boston, aged 25.
Time and place: Tomorrow
night at the Yankee Stadium.
Ne" York City.
Distance: H. rounds to a de-
cision OF two Judges and
referee.
Hcur: Preliminary bouts
star: at s:lJ p. m, main bout
at 10 p. m, eastern daylight
time.
Probable attendance: 80, 900.
Probable receipts: Sl.250. 900.
RaGio stations: VIZ and
WEtF Of New York and assoc
citation stations in nation wide
hoOh-up.
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Love to DO Twirling For Bis
marck in Enc0unter-Si-
monson Will Catch-Play
Promises to lie Fasl, With
Pitchers Battle Forecast

One of the outstanding games Of
the season is booked fir Sunday here,
with the jamestown Independents
coming to play the city nine.
jamestown has heavy hitting
team and one which has clean win
record, as far as games with state
teams are concerned. The only game
It has lost this season was with the
speedy House of David team.
Bismarck 10 primed for the in
vaders and the result promises to
be a real battle. Loves feat in hold
ing Linton to two hits last week in
dicates that there will be a real
pitchers battle on hand Sunday.
The revised lineup which Bis
marck had last Sunday and which
produced good results, is to be used
Sunday. This will make it something
like this:
Love, pitcher.
Fuller, second base.
Simonson, catcher.
Tobin, first base.
Sagehorn, shortstop.
Mohn, third base.
Jones, left field.
Lenaburg, center field.
Elliott. right field.
Fans will welcome back Lenaburg
Sunday. He has been out, for nearly
a month on account of an injured
arm, but he expects to be back in
the regular lineup from now on.
Anyway you look at it, Sundays
game is a good bet.
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New York, July (P)-Ring-
SIDE seats for the Dempsey
Sharkey fight, with box office
price OF $3.50 were reported be-
ING offered along Broadway to-
day at Sl25 each.
The Sl25 price was being asked
for seats within the first five
rows, 1t was reported, and Sl20
each Tor seats III the next five
rows.
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Pennant Progress
AMERICAN ASSOCIATION

Games Teddy
Columbus at Minneapolis.
indianapolis at Kansas City.
Louisville at Milwaukee.
Toledo at St. Paul (played in
Tuesday.
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Radio Station kfYR of Bismarck
will broadcast blow-by-blow ac-
count of the fight tomorrow night
starting at about 1880, Bismarck
time. As fast as the material
comes off the Tribune's Associated
Press leased wire, it will go Oh
the air.
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ABUNDANT LIGHT

A dim kitchen Is a constant nerv-
Gus strain on the housewife. *
powerful blue light inside a white,
globe VIII approximate daylight
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Has Failed n Rat

Heinie Manush, champion batsman
Of the Aniarican League last season,
has been . distinct disappointment SO
fsr this .season.
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WISHEK RIFLE
CLUB VICTOR
Defeats Rurnstad Men By II
Points - Winners Make
3O1 of Possible 400

In a match between tesrhs from
the Wishek Rifle club and the Burn
stad Rifle club held in the Wishek
clubs range Sunday afternoon,
Wishek trimmed their rivals by II
points. The winners made 3O1 out
Of possible 400 shots. Score fol-
lONc.
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SAYS HE KNOWS
SCI RET WALLUI.

baltimore, July 20.-NT-Thc Bal
timore News publishes a signed ar
ticic today by Spike Webb. boxing
instructor at the Naval Academy,
describing secret punch he says
Jack Sharkey will employ in his
light tomorrow night with Jack
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Has Double Comnlex

George Burns, who broke the rec
ord for two-base hits last season
with 81, is suffering from two-base
complex. Any time he hits the ball
safe be heads TOR second.
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AMERICAN LEAGUE

Games Today
Washington at Chicago.
Others open date.
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WESTERN LEAGUE
Lincoln Z; sUes Moines Z.
Denver s; Omaha TO-.
Amarillo 2; Oklahoma City 4.
Tulsa 8; Wichita IL.
Zeal Veteran

Jack Quinn Of the Philade lphis
Athletics has been pitching profes-
sionAl baseball since 1908. He's in
his gath year.
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NATIONAL LEAGUE

Ganep Today
Pittsburgh y Phiiadedlhia tive
Chicago at Ney York. e.
g. sIni ias,. !, 4 ssta (sErs
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Locals Meet Jamestown
Sunday; Game to Be Fast
Yesterdays Games
By The Associated Press
~ AEnn NJ Al n a N11pN

By The Associated Press
NATIONAL LEAGUE
Hhlcago .:...... 8 Is o
A>S" YIN D
Osborne, Bush and Hartnett; F.,
Thomas, Songcr, Clarkson and Taylor,
Devormer.
r II e
cincinnati .......... 8 II
Duo WI u
Rlxcy and Hargrave; Goldsmith,
Robertson and Urban.
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Additional Sports Will
Be Found on Page 3
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IL ~.
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Schupp and Snyder; linn and
Shinault.