The daily worker. [volume] (Chicago, Ill.) 1924-1958, 1927-12-31
STAINS QUESTION.


q special mass q0orkers' party in the
United States? The boorgeoisie IN
America haze two parties, the re-
publican party and the democratic
party. Bat the American qOorkers
haze no mass party of their o10n.
Do not the comrades think that the
absence of such a mass qUorkers' par
ty even If 1t aOere like the British La
Dor Party sceokens the Workieg class
IN its political fight against the capt.
talists? Then again, why do the
leaders of the Labor moUenaemt in
America, Green and the others, so
strongly oppose the establishment of
q Labor Party IN America2
BROPHY: Yes, the leaders did
decide that there was no necessity
for forming such a Party. However,
there is a minority which considers
that such Party is necessary.
Conditions in America at the pres
ent time are such, as has been point
: out already, that the trade union
movement is extremely weak. The
weakness of the trade union move
ment is to be explained in its turn
by the fact that the working class at
present does not have to fight against
the capitalists because the capitalists
themselves increase wages and guar
antee to them satisfactory material
conditions.
STAIN: But it is the skilled
workers mainly whose material con-
ditions are guaranteed. There is a
contradiction here. On the one hand
it would appear that there is no nee
essity for organization because the
workers are provided for On the
other hand it is said that the more
secure workers, the skilled workers,
are organized in the trade unions.
Thirdly, it would appear that the I'M
organized workers are those least pro-
vided for, namely, the unskilled work
I ers who most of all stand in mood OF
Reorganization. cannot understand
t,his at all.
BROPHY: Yes. There is con-
tradiction. But so are American po-
litical and economic conditions con-
Trajectory.
BREBNER: Although the unskill-
ed workers are not organized. they
have the political right to vote, so
that if there is any discomfort the
unskilled workers can express this
discomfort by exercising their politi-
cal right to-vote On the other hand
the organized workers who belong to
trade unions, when particularly bad
times come, do not turn to their union
but. exercise their vote. Thus the po-
litical right to vote corpensates for
the. lack of trade union organization.
ISRAELS:. One of the principal
difficulties is the very system of cleo
tion in the United States. 1t is not
the man for whom the majority of the
votes of the whole country is cast, or.
even the majority of the votes of any
particular class in cast, that is elect
ed as president. In every state there
is an electoral college; every state
has. certain number of electors who
participate in the election of the presi-
dent. To be elected, the candidate
must obtain 81 per cent of the votes.
If there were or 4 parties no one
candidate would be elected and the
election of the president would have
to be transferred to the congress.
This is an argument against forming
a third party.
The opponents of the third party
argue in this way: Don't put forward
a third candidate because you will
split the liberal vote and you will
prevent the liberal candidate from
being elected.
STALIN: But Senator LaFollette
in his time was creating third bour-
geois party. 1t follows then that the
third party will not split votes if it
is a bourgeois party, but it may split
votes if it is a labor party.
DAVIS: l do not regard the fact,
mentioned by the previous speaker AZ,
fundamental one. think the MOST
important point is the following I
will quote the example of the city
in which | live. During the ELECTION
campaign the representative Of GER