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AUCTION SALES.
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1hcD- y. ONBN C SONa ACI11ONGEhS,
TRUSTEES SALE OF VALUABLE REAL
ESTATE. BEING HOUSE AND Lot
numbered 1929 SHERMAN AVENUE
Dy virtue Of a certain deed of trust,
recorded on October II. 1925. rs INSTRUMENT
No. 229 of the land records of the District
OF Columbia and at the request Of the parties
secured thereby, the undersigned will sell al
public auction. In front of the premises on
FRIDAY THE TWENTY SECOND DAY OF
APRIL. 1927 AT FOUR THIRTY O'CLOCK
ses situate in the District Of Columbia, and
being lot numbered seveHty-hye (751 in
square numbered twenty-eight hundred and
eighty-four t2SS4l as described in said deed
of trust. upon the following terms:
Terms of sale: Said daproperty is subject to
a prior deed of trust securing an indebted
ness of 81 600 and said property will he
sold subject to said deed of trust indebted
ness OF the purchase price over and above
said deed of trust, one-third is to he paid
n cash and the balance in two equal in
stallments. payable IN one and two years.
with interest at the rate of six and one
naIf per centum ner annum. payable semi.
annually. secured by second deed of trust
upou the property sold. or ali cash at the
option Of the purchaser interest and taxes
deposit of $500 will he required at the time
of sale. All conveyancing. recording etc.
Mt the cost Of purchaser. Terms of sale to
he complied with within thirty days from
date Of sale, otherwise deposit will be
forfeited and property resold at risk and
advertisement OF such resale in some news
paper published in Washington. ID. c.
3. FRANCIS SAUL.
50; 925 5th st: NV.
"lLNdA8 II. 525 + i5tR BENs2GNw 81. NV.
a-1o-iSf}S nxSr Trustees
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F0R sAI.E--HouSES.
RARGAINS-
Good Homes-Easv Terms.

Good Homes-Easy Terms.
1--Montague St, near 1Gth--A hish-class
modern home Of 10 rms, bs.. Gear
brick gar, lot, 45x135.
2--Irving ST.. near I4th-splendid Broom
house with 2-car brick garage: will
trade for Groom house near Grant
Circle.
s-1st st. ne. No 1T09--Nice Groom
house with porahes.
4--BFOokland. cor. 10Th and Hamlin sts~-
Detached: 4 bedrooms. Trade equity for
small house downtown.
b-5as Gresham pl. n.w.--Large Il rms,
h.. semi i-detached heuse. inciosed porches
6-Quiucy st.. near y. Hampshire ave. NV.
Bright Groom house, porches.
tel ST. u.w.--a rooms: hot-Water
heat. (Commercial.1
Suburban: Landuyer Ad.--S rooms
splendid house; acre Of ground: electric
light,
p--Virginia acrcaee--7i acres. with front
age of roo feet on Lee Highway Trade
for eIty property.
THOS. d. WALSH,
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Trustees Sale of Desirable
Two-Story Frame Dwelling
Situate No. 1l09 Buchanan
CT NV

BY ylrtue Of a decd Of trust recorded IN
Liber No. 654l. at folio liza. Of tho land
records of the District OF Columbia. we shall
sell. in front Of the promises. on FRIDAY.
1927, AT FOUR. FIFTEEN O'CLOCK PM. lot
numbered fifteen (15l in u. Francis Saul and
others subdivision of lots In square numbered
twenty-nlne hundred and twenty tDg90l ~
"SauFs Addition to tho City Of Washington, "
Dor plat recorded In the office of the SUR
veyor for. the District OF Columbia In Llber
County "a. at folio 32,
Terms Of sale: One-fonrth cash, balance
in one, two and three yeare. with interest at
six per cent per annum, payable semi amt.
sale and the purchaser allowed fifteen eiava i
from date OF sale TO complete the purchase,
Further particulars at time of sale. All con-
NcyanCes, recording etc, at cost of purchaser,
EDWARD C. RALTZ,
VERNON q. OWEN,
ap1a.d6sds.osSu 1ruAteeas
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Trustees Sale of Valuable I'm
proved Real Estate, Known
as No. 1918 Belmont Rd.
NV, Washinton. d. G..

BY virtue OF a certain deed of trust dated
September 20. 1926 being instrument No,
tba i5o ,,,3, recorded sept9pber 30 1920, among
and at the request of the party secured
thereby the undersigned trustees viii sell at
public AUCTION. in trout of the premises on
TUESDAY. THE THIRD DAY OF MAY.
A.D 1927, AT FOuR-THIRTY PM the
following described land and premises sit
aate in the District OF Columbia. and desig-
mated as and being lot 26S in square 253g
n Ernest G. Walkers subdivision of lots in
Presley and others subdivision of parts of
the tract of land called Widows Mite -
now known as Washington Heights" as per
plat Of said Walkers subdivision recorded in
the office OF the surveyor of the District of
Columbia in Book so. at page 81
Terms: Sold subject to a prior deed Of
trust for, $4,000 further particulars of
which will be announced at time of sale
the purchase price above said trust to be
paid in cash. A deposit of $500 required.
Conveyancing, recording. etc. at purchaser &
cost. Terms TO be complied with within
thirty days, otherwise deposit forfeited and
the property may be advertised and resold
at the discretion of the trustees,
g, BURTON RODRTCK
HARRY s. WEIGH,
arof 90 % OK 0g % % eor,,,0 . "s'00n'
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Trustees Sale of Valuable
Detached Frame Dwelling
Known as Premises 1907 De-
catur ST. NV.

BY virtue Of q certain deed Of trust. dated
February =. 1897 being instrument No. ] ~
recorded February IL. 1927, among the land
RECORDS Of the District Of Columbia. aud at
the request OF the party secured thereby. the
undersigned trustees viii sell at public suc-
fioB, in front Of the premises. on FRIDAY.
sTHE TWEETY-SECOND DAY OF APRIL.
ADJ 1927. AT -FOUR O'CLOCK p N. the
5oIowing.-described land ard premises. situate
A. and being lot 7t in B j. Saul and others
eTbdiyision Of lots in square 2SOS Of the
frae9 az land known as 'SauIs Addition" as
ner Plat recorded ia the Office Of the surveyor
Of the District Of Columbia in County Book
Terms: Sold subject 10 2 prior deed Of
tr7lsf for 81. 600. further particulars Of which
,aiT be announced at time of sale: the pur-
~hase rrIce above said trust 70 be paid in
essa' A deposit Of $500 reanired Convey
;TfeTns 10 be complied with within thirty days
St5tarvrisn deposit forfeited and the property
nav he advertised and Tesold at the discretion
OF tne lEaSsseS' VERNON G. OWEN.
HOLLIS Il. FRI1STs.
Anl2-d&ds.eZSu trustees,
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FRANK STETSON.
DAVID BORNET.

Care NationaI Savings z Trust Co.
mh10-d&ds. .exSu Washington. d. G..
EyTHE PURCHASER OF THE ABOVE.
described property having failed To comply
with the terms stated therein said prop
erty will be resold at his risk and cost. on
TUESDAY. THE TWENTY SIXTH DAY OF
APRIL, 1927. AT FIVE O'CLOCK PM
upon the same terms and conditions and al
FRANK aTETSQN.
apao. .22 22,25.9d Trustees.
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. OROTHY BAXTER was slicing
cold potatoes for salad when
the telephone bell rang behind
. her. she turned, wiped her
-I1nrnAe l.n.nAila- hrte .,
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660O 10th ST.
SAFE or RENT-IEOTsEs.

1891 BAY ST. Sc. fNR 18th AND b.
Beautiful modern. new 6-r and b. colonial
brick. coubie rear porches; big lot. alley,
street paved. Wlll sacrifice on terms or
CoLoRED-636 6 st. Sc, 1895 Columbia
81 n " TA0 Hobart NV. and a number OF
other houses desirably located. sell cheap
IN terms For rent a number for trade:
n. E. RYON CO., INC,
S41g 14th. 1923 st.
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WANTED TO BUY-HOUsEs.

WANT HOUSE WEST OF GA, AVE.
with 6 rooms. garage. porehes and 4ard.
around $40. .000 VIII trade my small cteaF
house Address Box I60-B. star omce--
FOR CcIORED. TO 2 ROOM BRICK.
gond northwest section: must have all9Sy alll9S
sDd he in COED condition: not over 5b,oUu.
Address Box 220-B. star office. -
We HAVE A CLIENT WHO WILL PAY
ali cash for new or compaTatlVety gi, ~ ,esr ne@
ssered Heart Church and 18th st. car line.
p J. WALSHE. nc.
1101 Eve ST. NV.
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ADAM A. wEscHLER & son. Auctioneeps
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TFHos n i OVEN & SON A77cTioNFERs !, ,SI,Fgs;
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ap21 %. %. q. .es. .2s. %. .aomv2.a .
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TH0s. J. OWEN & son. AUCTTONEERs-
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TRUSTEES SALE or VALUABLE IN
PROVED REAL ESTATE. KNOWN As
no. 114l TWENTY SECOND STREET

ap2l,22. 20. 3.95.9e.2s. .2sS3o ,ny2.3
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,9;I7ToTT0WN REAL ESTATE.

EE-Pc zTS-s5 CASH. $ MONTHLY BUYS
spr 3 AANla In9s n thriving New York village
Pgice' s1fO: only SS each. VAIL lsO
ProaSway, New York.
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ApAM A. WEscHLER & s0N. Auctioneer
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SIMMER COTTAGES.

SAFE OR RENT on POTOMAC. COTTAGE
Cabin Jnbn car line: electricity. flle view
fishfnr. etc aga G st. NV. Apt. : -
FOR SALE-SUMMER CAMPS.
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ADAM A wEsCHLER 3 lsoN. Auetioneera.
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RECLUSE SHOT TO DEATH.

fCopyrieht. 1879
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Mems White or COlOred Shirts

Then scan this list of fabrics.
You prefer Imported English
Broadcloth, it is here, and so on
down through a long variety
Imported English Broadcloth in
plain colors and white, Fancy
Striped and Checked Broadcloth,
Woven Madras, Fancy Novelty
Bro d c | 0 t h, Rayon-striped
Bro d c o t h, Rayon-striped
Madras, Fancy All Rayons.
(First Floor, The Hecht Coz
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Cool Summer
Union Suits
95c

Summer suits at a saving price.
Soisette, self striped Madras, fine
mesh, imported English Broadcloth
Round and V necks, taped at neck and
armhole, side opening. Full cut sizes
81 to 40. These are we'll made union
suits of the favored style for hot
weather wear. Although there are
/ 200 of them, they'll go like the pro-
verbal hot cakes.
tFrs co..
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Plenty of little niceties about
these shirts that commend
them to men who are particu-
lar about their apparel ]. :.
Generously cut and properly
sized. All with first quality
ocean pearl buttons that look
we'll after they are washed.
Plain coIors and fancy pat
terms, in fast dyes. Plenty of
white.
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Men s
Novelty
Hose
55c
Less than usual

A we'll known make,
favored by many men. Dis
continued patterns in silk
and Isle, rayon and isle.
Various fancy patterns and
colors. Seamless. Sizes oH
to Il.
(First Floor The Hecht co.,
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S .65
8 for s9.S'

Neck sizes 1879 to 18;:
slecve lengths 80, "a, IS.
Collar attached, collar
to match and neckband
styles.
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1927-09-14

1926 when a few more than 10000 at
tended" according to o. M. Thurber.
The people liked the idea of being able
to see the educational side of the fair
without cost and they reciprocated by
paying the small admission charges to
grandstand, bleachers and in our amuse-
ment park, whereby we derived rev.
enue little larger than last year. This
will meet all expenses and show a profit
and definitely establish free gate adj
mission.
"Our 20 modern exhibition build
ings were filled to capacity and tenn
porary quarters had to be provided to
take care of the overflow in many de-
partments. The quality was the best
we have ever had. Fair officials were
here from all parts of the northwest to
study the free gate situation and watch
us put it over"
Evening star., 1927-09-11
THE YEAR 1927 TO DATE ON THE WASH.
INCTON STOCK EXCHANGE.

W. & Co. Bundin washn
6.
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Financial High Lights of Past Week
Brought Out in Nutshell by Statistic
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halfyeary declarations
Unit & Oh dng % les ii than 100 sharss % tfarsS extra tpGs
stock dPayable when earned Payable cash
Plus 10To Plus Plus 81
Plus stock.
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BONDS.
MISCELLANEOU!

1os500 Barber & Ross. Inc. 6hs. 99% eaA es
$4,000 Chestnut Farms 6hs, 1941 1Oa
1000 Chevy Chase Club 1st 5hs 1O0h 1O0a
4500 D. G. Paper Mfg 1st e1
10000 Southern Bldg. Gas.
$500 Wash. Market Cold S. 1885,. % e4A "a
26100 Wardman AS
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08

 F-ase e rsHaTi hast to the meet .ng sa fhe alitions.
 A letter was read from the Petersburg commercial club in cluding the following resolution on herring which was adopted by the local chamber:
 Resolved. that herring fishing in all waters inside the three mile limit. Including all areas affected by salmon regulations, except for the purpose of bait, should be limited to gill net, with meshes not less than two and one quar- ters inches stretched measure, and that fishing for bait with seines or gill netting be permitted at all times, in all waters inside of the three mile limit, including all waters affected by salmon regula- ton, providing it does not de- stroy or impede the progress of the salmon. No boat operated by, for or in any way connected with reduction plant may be consid. cred bait fisherman"
 A letter was read from the Juneau chamber of commerce in cluding resolutions on herring adopted by that organization, but no action was taken at the pres- ent time.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08
German Chemists Claim
 New Moth-Proof Wool

STUTTGART. Germany. Nov s The pesky moth has been dealt a blow which threatens to put him out of his fayorite business of eating up blankets and other nice comfy things made of wool A new system of treating ordi- nary wool has been conceived by Wurttemberg chemists which car ries guarantee making all wool ems absolutely proof against dam Iage by moths.
 The wool retains the same ap- pearance and the same touch as previous to the treatment, so far as the human eye is concerned but there is something about it. but moths will runs from it even though they have not had meal in a month, the chemists say.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08
LOCAL FOREST
 GROWTH QUEER
 SAYS EXPERT
Thornton I. Munger Finds Alaskan Forests Present
 Fascinating Study

A new mode of forest life, T new breed of foresters and un- usual growth conditions were dis covered in Southeastern Alaska by Thornton T Munger. Director of the Forest Experiment Station at Portland. he writes in the cur rent number of the Timberman There is vast field here for sci entific forest research, he be- lieves.
 Director Munger spent several weeks in Tongass National Forest last Summer. He visited Juneau. Ketehikan and other towns and spent most of his time in the field, familiarizing himself with forest conditions.
 Is Fascinating Problem
 In the article in the Timberman. MT. Munger said:
 Alaska presents a fascinating problem for the research forester, where data must be secured on methods of silviculture which will promote the best second crop in the pulp operations as well as de- termine. through growth studies, the potential production of this vast and varied archipelago of forests, comprised in district eight.
 "A month in Alaska introduced me to new mode of forest life and new breed of foresters. Here the foresters are amphibi- ous, they must have navigators to survive, for they have both to sail the seas and swim in the brush. They eat. sleep and of course write reports. on board their boats, they rarely sleep on the ground. or toast their backs about camp fire; the packhorse and fliyvers are no allies of
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08
ELECTRIC AUTO
 BUILT TO RUN
 LONG DISTANCE

PARIS. No, S-An electric automobile that will run 600 miles on a charge that can be put into it in an hour, is announced as an accomplished fact by Jean Cabrerets, technical writer.
 A new electric battery-a "real revolution in science"-he says has proved it's worth and the right to make it has been ac- quired by French. English and German firms, whose names arc kept secret.
 A Spanish Jesuit priest, Faith CT Almeida, is credited with the invention
 Cabrerets says the battery. com pared with present types, has ten times the capacity, weight for weight, and five times the ca pacity, size for size. It can be charged, he asserts, in one-twen- tyfifth the time of ordinary types
 Picturing current models of el- ectric cars, he says, the new bat tery would propel one 600 miles as compared with 120 miles, but with saving of 450 pounds while if space were found to car ry new battery of the same weight as the old one, the range of action. would be 1.2O0 miles Best of all the charge could bt renewed completely during tn, lunch hour.
 The chemical action is said tt be similar to present practice
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08

through the decompos:tion of two electrodes. one of which is of silver or heavily silyered.
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theirs. One stops for the night to anchor not to make camp. Lighthouses and buoys mark the trails.
 Are Hardy Lot
 They have to be hardy lot. perpetually wet either by lrain. salt spray or sweat. Timbered hills can be sleeper than I have ever seen them anywhere else. the ground more hummocky; il is covered by 10-inch carpet of green moss that deceptively hides age-old crnmbling logs. limestone cayerns and traps amongst the tree roots. The prevailing under growth is devils club fF. horri. da), but salmonberry and spruce thickets are just as painful to go through. The trees have way of growing on down logs and knolls so that DBH is often be- low the level of the roots.
 Field Is Marvellous
 Forest research is making a beginning of the Tongass national forest and we are planning a pro gram of expansion It is a mar velous field. A primeval forest if there ever was one, stretching along 10000 miles of shore line excepting perhaps dozen miles altogether of beach frontage where logging has been done. 1t is region of abrupt contrasts where in an altitudinal range of 2500 feet the type changes from luxuriant growth of 200-f3ot spruce four feet in diameter to the prostrate hemlock of timber line. Worthless muskegs are en- eountered in most unexpected places. as are also patches of even-aged spruce in the midst of uneven-aged climax forests of hem lock"
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08
KETCHIKAN SAW MILL.
 BUYS TIMBER TRACT

Bids for a tract of 5.5O0.000 feet of mixed spruce and hemlock tim Der made by the Ketchikan Spruce Mills were accepted yes terday by the U s. Forest Ser vice, it was announced today by Assistant District Forester B. r. Heintzleman Cutting of the tract will be carried out this win ter by Mcdonald Bros, Ketchikan contractors.
 The tract is located on Betton Island about 10 miles distant from Ketchikan. The timber will be milled at Ketchikan next season.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08
STAND TAKEN
 ON FISHERIES
 BY KETCH|KAN
First City Commercial Club Adopts Strong Resolu-
 ton, Recent Meeting
(Ketchikan Chronlcle)


 Resolved, that anything that will interfere with the halibut or salmon fisheries, will be against the best interests of Alaska"
 The foregoing resolution was unanimously adopted today at the noon meeting of the Ketchikan commercial club at the Blue Fox It was preceded with discussion on several phases of the fishing business.
 A letter was received from the Seattle chamber of commerce en- closing resolutions which were adopted by that body, including.
 First-Against the elimination of 30 per cent duty on repairs to American vessels.
 Second-Excepting small boats from the steamboat inspection law
 Third Excepting all fishing boats from the steamboat inspec- tion law.
 A committee consisting of Les ter 0. Gore. Everett Paup and Harold Knight was appointed to
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08
WOMAN IS ASSAULTED
 AND SLAIN
Grim e Committed N a I Milwaukee Believed
 Work of Degenerates

MILWAUKEE, Wis. Nov. S. Kidnappers last night. after slug ging and throwing her husband into ditch from his automobile. took Mrs. Emma Greenwald with them and her body was found near Dousman. Mrs. Greenwald had been assaulted and then slain.
 Greenwald is in the hospital
 Sheriff Alvin believes Mrs. Greenwald was the victim of a gang of degenerates and express ed the theory they are probably responsible for the murder of Lillian Graef, aged 19, Mil wankee girl, who disappeared on October II. when she went on a blind date. Saturday her body was taken from the Box River. She has been beaten and strangl- ed.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08
NEW LIPSTICK

PARIS. Nov. S.--One of Inc amusing things the smart Paris ian produces from her jeweled handbag this wirter-a true bag ful of tricks-is lipstick which proves to be cigarette lighter.
 It is only slightly larger than the ordinary lipstick and no larg- CT than tho oycr-sized sticks somc women prefer. The ends are sil- yer and the center is enamel of q color to match the gown, or a bright vermilion red.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08
HOW,s TOUR ROoF2

If you need shingles for it. remember Femmer has them at price that is right. adv.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08
FEWER FRENCH BABIES
 BUT LOWER DEATH-RATE

PARIS. Nov. 8. Births are fewer and marriages less frequent but France is still on the right side of the population record be- cause there is a much lower death rate and divorces are not so popular. as last year.
 Figures for the second quarter of the year give the country an increase of 32,400 people, almost double the same period last year.
 Tn all of France, there were only 4,ss5 divofees in three months.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08
N. Y. Sailor Sets Out
 To Row 1,5OO Mile.

NEW YORK. Nov. S-Declaring his intention to row twelve-foot boat 1.500 miles to Miami, Fla, Charles Seilto. 67 years old, has showed off from the Battery with supply of heavy clothing and a few sandwiches and some water. He expects to complete the trip in three months, hugging the coast line the entire way and making overnight stops along the route. l Seilto is former sailor.
The Daily Alaska empire., 1927-11-08

A reward of S2000 will be given to anyone directing us to the party who broke the glass of the front door of the Oriental Recreation Hall. IL was broken early Monday morning. adv
Evening star., 1927-04-17

fact, the childs nurse usually provides
all her own uniforms--a procedure
which could hardly be expected of the
waitress and parlor maid, who must
dress to suit their employers taste or
color scheme.
When you have but one or two
servants you have a more difficult
problem in uniforms. There is a sort
OF doubling up to be done. You may
have q cook-laundress and chamber.
waitress -parlor maid, or you may
have a maid who somehow contrives
to cook, make beds, clean, answer the
door bell and bring in the tea things in
the afternoon and to do 1t all with
credit.
Even with only one or two maids
you may carry out the idea of having
uniforms to harmonize with your
house. 1t costs no more to provide
morning work frock Of soft gray
chan1bray than one of the conven-
ti0nal blue. And for afternoon wear
wistaria or brown English broadcloth
costs no more than black sateen. And
many maids really like to wear these
rather unusual colored frocks.
If in addition to the cook you have
what we used to call second girl,
you probably expect her to combine
the duties of chambermaid' and wait.
ress. Then her morning frock may
be some sort of chambray over which
she wears a large apron when doing
upstairs work and a smaller white
apron when waiting at table. For
afternoon she may change to a mohair
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hair for afternoon. Perhaps you like
the idea of crisp pink or blue morn
ing uniforms with black for evening.
But if your waitress is dressed to go
with the dining room decorations.
then you will choose frocks of cotton
of the desired color for morning with
mohair or silk frocks of the same
shade for the afternoon. The trim
bibbed apron with collar and cuff
sets and cap to match may be of
dotted swiss, edged If you like with
finer lace. or it may be Of organdie
In some houses the waitress wears
the fine apron only for dinner while
for breakfast and luncheon she wears
a larger apron of linen, that may be
edged with rickrack.
The personal maids apron differs
largely from the uniform of the par
1or maid and waitress In that she
wears an apron without a bib. More
over, the apron may be of black silk
If she wears a black frock At all
events her apron is q very dainty
trifie-and may be of sheer organdie
trimmed with Irish lace. The black
frock with dainty apron we all asso-
ciate with the personal maid, and
perhaps this cannot he improved
upon. But some women choose col
ored frocks for their ladies' maids
mauve or gray or blue to match the
decorations Of boudoir or bedroom.
If you employ a trained child's
nurse to care for your child or chill
dren. then you may not have much