Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1927-01-24
MRS. POPE TELLS
OF HOLD-UP PLANS
Friend of Three of Four Held
in Busch Murder TeSti-
fieS at Trial.

Displaying what Government coun-
sci characterized as apparent hostil-
ity." Mrs. Gladys Pope. friend of three
of the four defendants on trial for
the murder OF Policeman Leo *
Busch in Criminal Division 2. reluct-
antly testified for the prosecution to-
day that John Proctor. Nicholas Lee
Eagles and Samuel Moreno conspired
to commit "hold-up" on the night
of September 25.
When Justice William Hitz recessed
court for luncheon, he ordered Mrs.
Pope not to speak with any one about
her testimony. This was based on
conversation she admitted having had
with her sister during n short inter
mission. in which she left the court
room. Defense attorneys requested
the court to instruct Mrs Pope not
to talk with any one. and Justice
I1itz ordered the marshall to keep
her where she can't talk" She had
been admonished by the court while
on the stand not to speak with any
one. Mrs. Pope was placed in the
matronS room of the courthouse dur
ing the luncheon recess.
When Justice Hitz. returned to the
bench after the recess he announced
he had lunch sent to Mrs. Pope and
that she did not eat. He concluded
she was not well enough to resume
the stand and appeared to be dis
turbed and sick from this expert
ence." In recommending that she
be excused for the present and re-
turn Wednesday morning, counsel on
both sides interposed no objection.
Then, calling a deputy marshal to
the bench Justice Hitz handed him
Gf1g11 if,-f f-Ylrp ton n
get a cab and send her home"
Calls Witness Hostile.
Mrs. Pope, formerly Miss Gladys
James, and who is 20 years old, was
among those questioned by the police
after the fatal shooting in the early
morning hours of September 90. She
identified one revolver as having been
In Eagles possession at his home at
319 c street, where she lived for
time, but only gave partial Identified
ton of another revolver. Both pistols
it previously had been testified by
Government witnesses, were stolen by
Moreno and Eagles in two Virginia
hold-ups, September II. and these
revolvers were found near the scene
of the shooting
Mrs. Pope's testimony was con
tinued from Friday afternoon, at
which time Assistant United states
Attorney George ID. Horning, Jr, was
conducting the examination ana YER
ballv expressed his displeasure with
the nature, of the witness reply to his
questions. Assistant United States AT
torney John ]. O'Lcary took over the
questioning this morning and stated
to the court, after experiencing much
DELAY and difficulty in obtaining an
swers. that he would cross-examine
her "for her apparent hostility,
Admits They Told Plans.
The Government has sought to
prove through Mrs. Pope that the re-
volvers Eagles and Moreno obtained
were the same as those used IN the
Petworth shooting. Mrs. Pope admit
ted she was present in Eagles nome
when Proctor and Moreno arrived the
night of September %, and after
conference among them they an
nounced they were "going out to hold
some one up" O'Leary reached
stumbling block, however, when he
sought to elicit from the witness The
statement that before the three left
Eagles placed some revolvers on
table in her presence.
Mrs Pope, however. stoutly main
tanned she could not remember seeing
the revolvers.
After describing the three men as
being dressed up" on the night they
left the house and recalling that
Eagles and Moreno wore caps, Mrs.
Pope was shown a light gray cap,
which she recognized, but could not
state whether it belonged to Eagles
or Moreno
Identifies Revolver.
Before the three went out, Eagles
went into the bedroom and was Joined
by Proctor and Moreno, Mrs. Pope
testified. They conversed out Of her
hearing, however but when they re-
turned Proctor, Eagles and Moreno
said. "they We're going out after
load of liquor some place" she said.
Proctor, it was added, said he knew
where he could get 1t.
After much questioning by O'Leary
Mrs, Pope recalled that Eagles said
they were going to hold some one
up" She explained that Proctor ana
Eagles "and all of them" explained
this as their object.
When shown one of the reviewers
which she was unable to identify Fri
day Mrs Pope stated that Eagles
had il at the house and she saw 1t in
the presence Of Moreno, herself and
Reba Cooper, her friend and com
panion. She also recalled having
seen it in Detective Edward Kelly's
office when she stated, she testified,
it was the same pistol that had been
at Eagles home. The other revolver
she could not positively identify,
although admitting that it looks
something like the other gun that
Moreno had"
Speaks i'm Low Voice.
For the purpose Of refreshing her
memory, OLeary produced type
written statement which bore the
caption Gladys or James state
ment," which Mrs. Pope read and pro-
nounced correct.
Defense counsel objected, but after
Justice Hitz examined it he permitted
O'Leary 10 continue. After calling
her attention to the meeting with i'm
in the United States attorneys office
Friday Afternoon O'Leary asked: DO
YOU recall telling me that on Friday
Eagles laid guns on the table and
gave one to Moreno and put the other
in his pocket"
Justice Hitz sustained the defense
objections and Mr.. OLeary announc-
ed. Il am cross-examining her for APP
parent hostility" when one defense
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