The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1926-11-10
COnfers With Remy

out to lunch.
COnfers With Remy
When the doors swung open Julian
was seen sprawled over one OF the
tables talking earnestly with Remy.
This conference continued for some
minutes and both emerged smiling.
His apparent cooperation with the
prosecutors was again reflected when
he paused en- route TO lunch to hold
a sidewalk conference with Assist.
ant Prosecutors w. ii. Sheaffer and
John L. Niblack.
When asked II he was to spend
the lunch hour with the prosecu-
tors in unearthing the two strong
boxes" supposed to contain Ste
phenson documents proving corrupt
political deals, he gave his Gus
tomary refusal to answer, but this
time smllingly.
He was to be back before the jury
this afternoon.
Questioned by reporters this
morning, Julian repeated previous
statements Of T have nothing to
say"
But laughingly he admitted he
didn't get away with that before
the jury"
Up to today, prosecutors. headed
by Prosecutor William II. Remy,
had gained many important admls-
sions from Julian.
Most important was that Julian
had had In his possession the Ste
phenson strong boxes. supposed to
contain the documents, and that he
had taken them TO Evansville.
No Arguments
Grilled until 500 p. m.. Tuesday.
Julian emerged from the Jury room
fatigued. No muffled tones OF heated
argument had hoated into the cor
ridors, as oftentlmes happens when
witnesses are refractory and debate
wakes hot. This was taken to mean
that. with the assurance of immu
nifty given In court during the morn
ing session, Julian was answering
the questions put to him and the
Remy forces We're slowly unravel-
ing the thread that they hope will
lead TO the missing boxes.
The morning court session re.
vealed the fact that Julian had told
the jurymen that he had received
the boxes from Mrs. Charles Meade,
1873 e. Sixteenth St, and taken
them to Evansville. Judge Pro Tenn.
Charles S. Witsie had ordered the
witness to answer such questions as
"how long did you have them I'm
your custody" Where did you take
these boxes after you received
them from Mrs Meade2" What Is
your best memory as to the time
you last saw them?" and similar
queries having to do with the boxes.
Before ruling on the States mo
tion as to whether or not Julian
should answer these questions, the
judge addressed the witness from the
bench. He pointed out that 'Judg
ing from the testimony" the witness
did not feel that he was among
friends" Wiltsie then assured him
that the court would give an un-
biased opinion in the matter and that
since he Gulian) already testified
that he had no knowledge Of the con.
tents Of the boxes the Judge promised
him immunity from prosecution In
any matter regarding them with
the exception Of perjury"
Answers Queries
The witnesf apparently felt re-
lieved and reassured by these re.
marks and he returned to the jury
room at the noon hour and an
swered twenty-five questions before
going to lunch.
The court hearing was marked by
wrangling between Remy and John
Fl. Kiplinger, Julian attorney. Remy
refused to let Kiplinger and Ira
Holmes, also a Julian attorney. see
the testimony submitted to the court
and the questions which the witness
had refused to answer. The Judge
held that since grand jury testimony
was secret, the court had no right
to permit attorneys, nor anyone
else, to see it,
Holmes first entered the matter as
an attorney for Mrs Julian. wife of
the present witness He announced
Tuesday that he was counsel. with
for Julian, but was en-
phatic In denying that he was any
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