Douglas daily dispatch., 1926-10-22
MISSIONARY TELLS
INSIDE STORY OF
SAN CARLOS BILL
Especial to the Dispatch)

| PHOENIX, Oct. 21.-'l challenge the
Honorable Carl Hayden to debate w-th
me on any platform the question as
to who deserves the credit for the
passage of the San Carlos. bill" was
the terse and jforceful manner III
which the Reverend Dirk Lay threw
down the gauntlet of battle to the
opponent of United States Senator
Ralph IL. Cameron in the present cam
raign for election to the upper house
of the national congress. Rev. Dirk
Lay is nationally known as ms
sionary to the Pima. Indians in this
state.
Il was in Washington during the
fight for the San Carlos BILL" Rev
erend Lay continued. 1T means more
to my Indians people than anything
else in the world. l know who was
responsible for the passage of this
bill. I went to Carl Haydens office
and asked him to introduce bill
which would authorize tue construc-
ton of the dam and he flatly re-
fused, saying it could not be done,
it was impossible, that Arizona hao
more than her share of reclamation
funds. said, Carl, you know this Is
q bill of justice and not reclama-
ton bill. If you are chip off the
cid block as my predecessor said you
were, you would certainly stand for
the Indians first
'sIn 1923 we had a San Carlos rally
at Sacaton and on that platform ap
peared Carl Hayden. Shortly, after
superintendent Duclos had said the
only way this bill would pass is to
introduce it as an Indian bill, Carl
Hayden stood up and said, Tt is i'm
possible to pass the bill that way II
cannot be done. Arizona has moro
than her share of reclamation. The
whole south would have TO be back
of this thing. All the .wesNorn states
want reclamation. Arizona will have
to wait
IT challenged him shortly after that.
I went on the same platform with
him AMI said, Carl, this bill will be
introduced whether you introduce 1t
or not. 1t is going to be started this
year at this congress- Then Ducfos
and I came and saw him in the Heard
building where he maintained an Of,
flee and he made the same statement
again and said, 1T cannot be done
1t is impossible to do it
''In December I went to Washing
ton. On December 8, teIegrams from
, those interested would be coming In
from all parts of the country i'm
rloring congressman to support
measure which would restore the
waters to the Pima Indians. I was
there a few days before the 8, on
Thursday to be exact, and appealed
to Carl Hayden, telling him of the
kilograms lie said, 1T cannot be
| done. You can't interest these peo-
ple.' I told him there were enough
men in this congress who were just
and who would back the bill.
'I supposed, as far as I knew, that
a congressman had to introduce a
b:ll, and SO after Carl Hayden re-
fused went to Congressman Kelly
of Pennsylvania and asked him to
/ introduce the bill. He said, you
certainly could get your own con-
gressman to Introduce it, for this is
for your own state I then told him
i that the congressman from my state
didn't want to introduce it and he
said there is something wrong
I cannot introduce it, he told me, 'onc
of your own senators can introduce
it, I thought all legislation should
start in the house; di0 not know il
could start in the senate. Then
went to Senator Cameron's office
The senator was busy and his secre-
tary did not offer much encourage
ment Shortly afterwards the senator
came out of his private office an6
invited me in. I told him yne whole
story just as I had told it to Car
Hayden. I produced bill thai
Mathew x. Sniffen, secretary or tht
Indian rights association, had writ
ten. The same bill I had asked Car
Hayden to introduce. Senator Cam
eron read the bill carefully and tol<
me he was glad to have this, tha
he had been, working on bill and
assembling necessary data to intro
duce which he wanted to be SUR
would cover the situation. He sait
he thought this was the best tina
had been prepared or that he hat
seen on the subject. He then look
ed at the clock, struck his fist OF
the desk and said, the senate ha
1 adjourned until Monday morning. bu
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