The Kusko times., 1926-08-28

I be very much opposed to it.
 Mr, Blease. That is the reason why l asked the Senator the question, be- cause that is exactly the result of the present law.
 Mr.. shipstead At the present time?
 MT. Blease. Yes.
 Mir. Shipstead. Oh, yes; the pres ent law gives man the right to do, thatand he can keep other people away from shooting. I say l think that is an un-American idea 1 re signed from several clubs myself be- cause that was the practice, and it was very repugnant to me. Under this bill, as 1 understand, if it is properly administered the Federal Government will buy certain places where the pub lie can go and shoot under proper regulations, so as to give the ordinary man a chance to shoot. That is my understanding.
 MT. Blease. How would the Senator like to vote for a law to prohibit all shooting for five years?
 MT. Shipstead. Personally, should be willing to quit shooting for five years. Personally, I should be will ing to do away entirely with the shooting of migratory fowl for the next five years in the interest of con- servation. Of course, lot of people do not agree with me, and l do not think that the people of the United States would be, in favor of tha kind of law now. So far as 1 am con- cerned, in order to save the wild life of America and to atone in part for what I have done in the past, should be willing to prohibit shooting, and I myself would be willing, if it would help the preservation of the wild life, to quit shooting the rest of my life.
 MT. Blease I do not think man should go that far, MT. President; but l do think we should have some law that would not only protect the birds and game but would protect the poor man from the present impOsitions that are being put on him by rich people buying the large tracts of land,
 MT. Shipstead. As I understand this bill it would do that It would provide some place where the average man can go, under proper regulations, and enjoy the sport of at least being outdoors with gun, even if he does not get any game.
 MT. Lenroot. I should like. to ask the Senator question. Is it not true that even if the strictures that have been made against the shotgun manu- lecturers be well founded as to their interest in this bill, the only way in which the bill could benefit them would be through the greater oppor-I tunity for people to hunt this game, and, therefore, there would be greater demand for shotguns
 MT. Shipstead I think that is true
 MT. Lenrodt. It is a perfectly le- gitimate interest on the part of the manufacturers.
 MT. Shipstead. I thing so I do not think that is a legitimate objec- tion to the bill-
 According to this bill, no ground can be purchased for sanctuary or a shooting ground without first obtain ing the permission of the State The State has right to say whether or not it will permit the Federal Govern ment to come in and establish a refuge or a shooting ground. That seems to protect the right of the State. The fact that a license fee is lollected may be objectionable. It is fee of dollar. It is collected only from men or women over I6 years of age. It permits the little boys to go out with their shotguns and shoot all they please, and d man can hunt on his own land without having to pay license. fee. The proceeds of the fees are to be used to purchase these, grounds for refuges and for shooting grounds and for the proper admiuis-- tration of the law The money will be. collected only from those who do the, shooting, those who enjoy the life of hunting; and it seems to me that. no one can complain about the fee, of C ] Ill