New Britain herald., 1925-04-09
KAROLYI WARNS
 AGAINST LOANS
No "Gas' in Canada Where He
 Gives Views on Hungary


 ada. where the Horthy government of Canada apparently had no "so- cial or political influence" to gag him. Count Michael Karoyli presi- dent of the Hungarian republic Of lalS-19. has spoken.
 The modern man without coun- try" an exile from his native land since the bolshevik revolution Of six years ago, was accompanied here by the Countess Catherine karolyi, his wife, with whom he is returning 10 England.
 Fear that his words in the United States would cause Americans to withdraw ther moral and financial support from the present Hungarian government was given as the reason why his gagging while in the Unit ed States was successfully sought. ! Social influence brought against him in the Washington state depart ment, he said. was through Count Lsszio szechenY. Hungarian minis. ter to the United States. and the Countess Szechenyi, formerly Gladys Vanderbilt. Count Szechenyi re- uuested the state department to deny him the right of free speech. he declared;
 l Count Karoyli advised Americans not to invest their money in future Hungarian loans unless Hungary be- comes a republic. Such financing would merely mean that the United States Is providing the money for anew war in Central Europe, which knight again create world war. he declared.
 Unless tho aims of the Horthy regime were prevented by democra- 1 tic control of the nation, the count declared. the Hapsburg dynasty, again set up by the daal monarchy, would ally itself with renewed German empire and revive past 1 schemes of nhd-European coalition TThis would mean a war, and the United States would be greatly to blame If 1t financed the Horthy government, he declared.
 The people who are running Hun gary today, the count said. are the same "reactionary die-hards against Ewhom the American people fought fduring the war"
 ,e.s'The reactionarieS have alway'
 been for the union between Austria Hungary and for the alliance between Austria- Hungary and Ger f many. These were the people who fwartted the war, and who wanted Il to go on to the last man, up to final victory. These people wanted the anti-democratic government oi Austria and Hungarians; the! wanted the oppression of all tho non German and non-Magyar Ma | tionalists, who composed the major II ity of the population.
 Opposed Alliance Before the war fought agains 'E the German alliance in 6 way show by the first volume of my memoirs l IT did this openly and was made al
 object, of persecution throughout tn whole war. They spread the rumo 2 that I had received money from th' 1 Allies for carrying on my campaign \ against the Germans in such al obstinate and violent manner.
 My other crime was that l va ' a pactfst. I not only was agains war in general, but was especiall against this war fought on the sid
 of Germany.
 But perhaps the greatest crim
 in the eyes. of my own class was Una
 I wanted democracy. and wanted i
 introduce a radical land reform fo - the purchase of the land by th government and it's sale to the peo
 pie. One month before the war was campaigning in Austria on thes
 lines, explaining 10 the people wh
 I wanted to break off from the Ger
 man alliance, why I wanted democ
 racy, why wanted land reform an IWhy wanted to have Hungary sepa ! rated from Austria"
 Warns Against Loans n "ft is before you give the los W that you have the lever in yo,
 hand, that you can apply it to eI
 force conditions of security for fl - ture peace. If you give loan - Germany and work out a beautif n Dawes plan, and if st the same tin
 YOU let them elect a Hindenburg {
 some other typical lingo as pres dent, then your whole work, vol
 whole security, isn't worth a rt
 cent.
 "Of course, they will be sskir - for another loan in six months
 a year, and after that probably t' more loans. Economic conditio
 in Hungary are frightful. Ju
 before I left New York return'
 traveller told me that conditions ! Budapest now are worse than tn ] ever were in Vienna,
 If America pours her money in ,I Hungary under the existing cont | lions, and if there Is another V \ in the next few years, America V ! nave lndiiGFu It. Ndi uhNNI Sl N the attitude of the Horthy gover
 ment in trying 10 keep me bottl ,: up but I cannot understand " M America should fall In line with q I cannot understand why Washin :: ton should have treated me as .S aid, merely because Gladys Tandt I bilt married Count Szechenyi." Count Karolyi was asked 10 sta n what his program would be if ] could return 10 Hungary and 1 A sume power in the republican 10, |; of government.
 q My platform" he repli S would be democracy, freedom 2 speech, universal suffrage, aboliti of all reactionary institutions a
 land reform, by which I mean