Evening star., 1925-06-18

cost me anything and I could get
some more. I asked him about at
tending course.
II asked him what he was going to
do about the course, and he said he
was very busy but he would see me
later and take care of everything
all right. That was about all of the
three visits at the university.
II did not hear from him.
THE holidays were coming then
and I discussed with Mr.. Marchand
about"
II object, your honor. to any dis
cussion with Mr.. Marchand," said
Mr.. Stewart, and the objection was
sustained.
Criminal Use Up.
"a. number of months later-I did
not hear from him for a number of
months, until about April or May,
after the holidays-Mr. Shepherd call
ed me up and l made an appointment
with him at the Palmer House. l met
him there, right after class. l re-
member it was late in the afternoon
and we discussed the various micro
organisms. He asked me about the
criminal phases Of bacteriology. 1
told him that would be a very good
he asked me If I had known of any
cases that bacteria We're used in as
criminal means, and I told him that
there were undoubtedly some, but
they were never brought out; l never
heard of 1t being brought out in a
trial: and we talked about the vir-
ability of tuberculosis germs. I told
him they act very slowly and some
times take number Of years to take
effect on the body; in fact you could
carry them for life without being
how -he bacteria usually enters the
body.
Infection Is Explained.
II told him the different means that
the different bacteria entered the body
some through food, some through
water and some just through the air,
by respiration-and I told him that
tuberculosis bacillus is usually in
hailed and settles in the lungs, and
told him that typhoid is usually taken
in food or milk or water. but gener-
ally through contaminated water in
localities where sewage enters directly
into the source Of water supply.
He asked me how the disease was
detected and told him that there was
a sociological test made in the labora-
tory with the patients blood and the
bacteria. They are mixed together,
and If the blood stops the bacteria
from moving that shows that the
patient has typhoid fever, indirectly
that this could not be found out until
after at least s or 10 days Of the
infection. because the germ stayed in
the blood for about that time and then
they left off foci, which they usually
are found in, such as the pyers
patches in the lymph glands and the
small intestines and the mesenteric
gland and in the spleen and liver.
Could Culture Blood.
IT told him that the blood could
sometimes be cultured If the doctor
had any idea of what the disease was,
the first two days-the first few days
when he called on the patient he
ture on 1t and build up the germ. This
was not usually done, because very
few doctors recognized typhoid fever
at once.
He also spoke about the diphtheria
bacilli and I told him that adults didn't
get 1t near as frequently as children;
that 1t was just common in infants
and children and that 1t was usually
inhaled or sometimes taken through
infected milk
II asked him about the cultures
the germs I had given him previously
and he said that they looked all right
and told him If there was any green
or colored moulds forming on the top
that showed that they were contain
mated. and 1t was no longer a pure
culture, although germs, the typhoid
bacillus, should still be present in
them. I think that was all about
that visit.
Water Best Medium.
He made an appointment-we
made an appointment for the follow
ing Wednesday. and this was also
made at the Palmer House, and 1
met Mr.. Shepherd right after noon
and we discussed again the various
infections, especially typhoid and
diphtheria, and he asked me what the
best way a person would be infected
or the sureSt way of an infection,
most common way, and I told him
that 1t was through water, because
when water entered the stomach
bacilli, you could not see te germ
in it. 1t could be clear as crystal and
have no taste and still could be loaded
by the typhoid bacilli or other germs.
Made No Appointment.
"We did not make any definite
appointment at that time, but Mr..
Shepherd said he would call me up"
continued the frightened-appearin
witness. along a few months later,
in June or July, Mr.. Shepherd called
me up and we made an appointment
for luncheon at the Atlantic Hotel.
He said he wanted to see me about
some things, and / went down there
l