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The daily worker. [volume] (Chicago, Ill.) 1924-1958, 1925-08-19
DISTRICT FIVE
GOING TO RUIN
UNDER P. FAGAN
Disruption the Rule,
Pagan Aids Owners
BY ION Ray.

PITTSBURGH. Pa, Aug. 17.-That
conditions are going from bad to
worse in District 8. United Mine
Workers of America does not in the
least disturb the takers. While the
last few mines operating are gradually
closing down they continue to flirt
with the Pittsburgh chamber of COM
merce.
Local Union ESQ, located at New
Eagle, Pa, on the Monongahela val
ley, one of the National mines, No. 4.
extended an invitation to the mem
bers ordered expelled to address the
membership on conditions of the dis
trict regarding the explosions and the
methods used relative thereto by the
district executive board.
Pagan Disrupts Meeting.
The meeting was called to order
by the president with approximately
200 members present, the proceedings
went along smoothly until corresponds
ence was read, then, Pat Pagan rose
and took the position that he as presi.
dent of District 5, U. M. w. of A., re.
fused to participate in a local union
meeting where non-bona fde men
were in attendance, naming Jas. Oates
and Tom Ray, whom he declared we're
expelled, while he promised to debate
the question relative to explosions
after the proceedings had been dis
posed of regularly.
Part of the proceedings OF this
meeting by previous action contained
a program of demands, a. unemploy.
ment and the measures necessary
for relief: (2) proposition for active
fight against the coal operators estab-
fishing the 1917 scale: (3) immediate
settlement of all grievances obtaining
at the mines that are working. such
as the loading of very large cars, also
the pushing of large cars, the viola
ton of the dead work" scale rates
also the reduction in the outside scale
rates, etc.; (D active campaign of re
lief for the miners families where the
dependents were imprisoned and a
campaign for immediate release: (5)
abolition of the expulsion policy by
the district executive board with rein
statement of expelled members.
Threatens the Charter.
This program was opposed by the
yellow traitor, Pagan, who occupied
three hours attacking the Communists
ana progressives intimidating the 10.
cal union membership by stating that
ne would be compelled by law to re-.
woke the charter of local unions If
they would permit Ray or Oates 70
said meeting or have anything TO do
Win the program proposed. How
ever Pagan did not have all OF his
own way. VIM. Fullerton replied nv
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dangerous work. but he ties them I
with contract, binding them to stick
to the job 20 days, II needed that long.
In case a slave quits before the ex-
piration OF the 20 days contract he is
charged with board, and the contract
does not specify what price he must
pay for board.
Economy Cal" at Work.
So. If q fighter should quit before
the 20 day limit Uncle Sam reserves
the privilege of charging him board
and transportation which may bring
the 20 cent slave out in the hole
In the meantime Economy Cal" is
knocking down 100000 per year being
jumping-jack for Wall Street.
A haze OF smoke hangs over Spo-
kane, the smell of burning vegetation
is In the air; in the meantime a 20
day contract, and an offer of 80 cents
per, is stuck under the down-and-outs
nose on "the skidway" to go out and
risk his life fighting forest fires.
What Bill Had To Say.
Yesterday | said to one of McGold-
rick's $40 wage-slaves (McGomrick
the high-muck-a-muck of the "A LIS"
and the chamber of commerce); bill,
you can get a job fighting fires"
He replied: Not me. / tried that
once. If they'd put old timers on the
job to boss the men would not mind
it, but they put bench legged, white
collared know-nothings over men out
in the woods who do not know how
to protect the mems lives; a man is
liable to burn to death under these
incompentents. And they look upon
an old time timber man or lumber
jack with contempt
Snobs Risk Mems Lives.
IL remember one time we were
fighting fire over in Montana, under
one Of these incompetents with a pull,
and | almost lost my life. He kept
bunch Of men In one place till we
we're surrounded with fire and we
had hard time making our escape
THE boss would not ask the old
time woodsmen anything. He seemed
to look upon us with scorn and con-
tempt.
Upstart Boss Rifles The Crew.
He had US carrying water up a
high hill with an incline of about 30
degrees, when there was a big spring
on top of the mountain that was the
head OF h running creek where we
could have carried water down hill
: instead OF up.
This upstart Of a boss from the
city knew nothing Of the spring and
we could not tell him because he
would not ask us and because he
treated us men, who had spent the
best part Of our lives In the noun
tains, with contempt.
Forest Fires.
I'VE carried the water up that steep
mountain side rather than tell such
boss where the big spring was on
top of the mountain, while If he had
treated us like men, instead of dumb
animals, we would gladly have given
him any information in our posses
sion"
The Short Grass Season.
mo" he continued. Il will stay with
McGoldrick about another month for
$40 per, then the grass will be short
and scarce, then they will lay me
off. They always lay us off to cut
grass when the grass is short"
And Bill, the one-time /. w. W.
picked up his lunch pail and walked
on mile or more to McGoldricks
lumber mill, to earn dividends for the
lumber barons.
Why Bill, the Ex-Wob, Walked.
He walked because six cents car
fare was too much to pay when a
man had to support family on three
fourty per.
The daily worker. [volume] (Chicago, Ill.) 1924-1958, 1925-08-19
FOREST FIRES? LET EN- BURN"
SAID BILL, AS HE SHORTS OVER
H SKID ROAD OFFER OF UNCLE SAM
az W. J. MevEY-Worker COMPLEMENTARY

M
SPOKANE
in the
hugep profits lumber trust
An
The daily worker. [volume] (Chicago, Ill.) 1924-1958, 1925-08-19
JOE LODA'S CASE EXACTLY LIKE
ONE AT ZEIGLER: HARRINGTON
AND OPERATORS IN CONSPIRACY
BY ALEX REID
Secretary Progressive Miners committee.)



in
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NON UNION COAL MINE MAKES
1926 PER CENT PROFIT; BUT
1T is NOT THE ONLY COMPANY
BY LELAND oLDs


Wage Of Goodyear
Tire Rubber helping
the difference between workers
Goodyear explained the reductions
rubber this challenged sci aside
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expounding the Communist position
in such manner that he is without
doubt credit to the labor move
ment.
Later, came my turn outside after
adjournment Of said meeting to speak
With Oates to the members who pos
sessed the courage to remain to hear
our side OF the question. Pagan stat
ing that our program may have a
paragraph containing the acceptance
OF the 1917 scale, altho he knew bet
ter.
He knows that his own methods
will soon establish the 1917 scale II
he gets away. BY his method our union
10 going out of existence by the slow
process of starvation.
| hope that the day is not far dis
tant when the membership Of the
United Mine Workers will rise in their
might in opposition to the Lewis pol
icies of selling us out to the operators
as he done in 1919. 1922, 1924 where
100000 miners were removed out Of
the coal industry.
OF Course They Didn't!
l wonder If Lewis and his gang Of
absolute hypocrites thought that the
operators would remove non-union
men. And even at that the same gang
is responsible for there being a condi-
ton as a non-union territory.
Betrayal after betrayal has been the
lot that befell the miners and any
member that raises a voice against
their activities is to be rewarded with
expulsion. Howat in District IA, Nc
Gaughlin. District %. Myerscough,
District 5. Thompson, Watt and Perry
in District H.
Harrington the arch traitor and
hypocrite, who allied with John L.
Lewis after accusing him of accepting
bride of s75O.OOO from the Wall
Street bankers now does the dirty
work in District r.
Agreement Gone to Smash.
At some mines in District there
are few miners working under the
pretense that they are doing neces-
sary work when the truth of the mat
ter is that they are only helping the
coal barons to break our union. This
exists in Local Union No. 1865, Nc
Donald, Pa. Local Union 1882, Oak
dale, Pa. Others working around the
mines for rates above the regular
scale rates to the amount of $500 per
day, but this is credited on account
as payment for rent.
These conditions did exist in Local
Unions Nos. 2O12, 1878 but have been
stopped recently. There are other
conditions where outside labor is be-
ing permitted for $500 per day, and
others where there are three different
prices on the same jobs.
Proud TO be With MllItants.
Pagan in his attacks made several
statements that the progressives were
members of the Foster-Merrick gang.
Well, we admit that we are and very
proud Of being with the militants and
for all of the money in the world
along with silver spoons and the ban
quets, dining and winning with the
; bosses, where we often find the Lew.
ICES. B. & o. Bills, Greens and Muir.
rays, including the whole bloody lot,
we would not change places with you.
Instead. we will fight you until we
are successful. When we have done
that we know that someone else will
take our places and complete the Job.
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Shortage of Fat Prime Cat.
tie Because of Poor
PaSturage.

Under pressure of receipts es-
timated at 5000 the hog prices at
the Indianapolis Livestock Exchange
rose 10c today to a level of S13 top
price. Heavy medium and light
stock were all in equal demand and
moved off the market at the top
price of $1S a hundredweight. Light
lights sold for $12.75Q13; smooth
sows were s11.5O@12 a hundred
weig ht; roughs were quoted at 81
@11.25. hundredweight; pigs
brought s11.50@12.75; and stays were
still SS911 a hundredweight. The
bulk Of the sa moved at the top
price of $1S. Holdovers numbered
257.
The cattle market ri,led steady
20 strong this morning, with the
buyers experiencing a shortage In
the best grades of fattened stock.
The recent rain is expected to have
ROOu NlltCl Oll the 6iduc VI hiA-
terial brought to the yards by the
farmers. AS 1t is now, stock that
is only half fattened is brought to
the pens because of the lack Of good
pasturage. AS soon as the pastur-
age improves the market will re-
sumo a normal tone. according to
several traders in the cattle division.
Steers and heifers sold on a range
of 5000 a hundredweight, while the
butcher stock, which was plentiful.
and the common run Of cows
brought S50750 a hunoredweight.
Receipts were estimated to be 100.
Best veals sold this morning for
$1,000 a hundredweight with no sales
going above this mark. The market
was said to be steady with the bulk
of the sales moving at an even pace
with a price Of s1oQ10.5o hundred
weight for the best materials. Re-
ceipts were estimated to be 1900.
Sheep market experienced a drop
Of SOC a hundredweight on the best
lambs and the market ruled steady
at a price Of s14.50 hundredweight.
Sheep were steady and sold at $3.50
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HIGH PRICES RULE STEADER HOG DIVISIONS WITH $13 TOP

choice Idahos. s1e15; bulk desirable
natives. 500 1915: best natives held
higher; fat Sheep active; light and handy,
lots desirable native ewes. se.75 az. Hogs
Receipts, $4,000: market very slow, de-
sirsoles loo higher pndsrwe dg y s &c
weights, ssi2.4oaii5s.sg. 10 lightweig6ts,
II. sO@ 1885; light lights, ST. 25@
Slaughter pigs, sli'5oG1175.
CLEVELAND. June I,7-Hogsm,Re-
s1S.4o; mixed. $3.50; mediums; $3.50;
tie Receipts. 800; market, steady; good
TO choice bulls. UNCHANGED, Sheep and
top. $3.50. Calves Receipts, 400; mar
ket, steady; top $3.50.
CINCINNATI. June 17.-cattle = Re
steers. good to afE Choice 81. so a ~ 81.
'iHfaey coed to sCo
ers and butchers. s13.95. Sheep - Re.
S SSdee s s marks. s sGSa TO
good 10 choice. sl3.50a 1890
TOLEDO June 17.-Hogs-Receipts
90 market steady TO 15c S1p6 5e "a S5
workers S13@ 1925; good pigs Sll 80 a
lambS-M arket, STEADY.
EAST BUFFALO. June 17.-Caitle =
shipping steers. Ss.50G1O.75; butcher
grades SO az: cows. SO q 6.25, Calves
Gull 70 choice $35oQ ff.5O. Sheep and
steady: choice lambs, $16 q Is so; Gull 70
fair; 500 15S 90; yearIRin ngsiD, So g s dS;
$1,000 1885: pigs. sI2s;59g mixed mixed
81 q 1I.5O; stays. s6.75G9.
EAST ST. LOUIS. June 17.-Cattle-
Receipts, $500: market. strong TO 25c up;
native steers. $500 a 9.25; yearling heif-
ers. So .5OMlI: cows. S4.50d5.50: can
ners and CUTTERS 50 20 93.75; calves.
market marx q sea steady Seaves sPe75 90
mediums, s1S 70 a 70 90; light. SO 40 a
i2s5 gh! ght 60 sl gtg. l2s1 RsSSsI99g
bulk ST., 1925. sheeg07JRssc e
5000; market steady ewes o "a d a6 San
S12.75 a 10.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1925-06-17
MALT DEALER
IS GIVEN fine
BY BALTzELL
Dry Agents Plan to Enforce
law Against Such
Stores.

The conviction in Federal Court
today of Otto Pohler, proprietor of
the Indianapolis Extract Company,
134 Virginia Ave, on a charge of
possession of apparatus for the man.
ufacture of intoxicating liquor, is ex-
pected to have a "far reaching in
fluence" on the enforcement OF pro-
hibition in Indiana, according to
Bert c. Morgan. prohibition director.
Pohlar was fined $500 and costs by
Judge Robert G. Baltzell after the
jury returned the verdict, charging
possession Of the apparatus, includ-
ing malt, syrup. barometers, Gaping
and bottllng devices and flavoring.
Joe Sarbinoff. 500 e. Washington
St, was sentenced to six months
and fined $40O, and Steve Evinoff,
same address. received ninety days
and 5000, both on charges of sale
of intoxicating liquor.
Other sciences. fines and charges
were: Russell Martin, Rockport, Ind,
transporting liquor, $500 and costs;
Lester Johnson, 423 +. Ohio St,
ninety days, sale of narcotics; Ed
ward Havey, Indianapolis, four
months and $780, sale Of intoxicat-
ing liquor; Herman Gladish, S2S FIT.
Wayne Ave. six months and $500,
and Edward Hines, 1886 Graceland
Ave, four months. both on charges
Of sale Of paregoric to drug al.
diets, and Mark Gordon, Terre
Haute, Ind, a year and a day at
Leavenworth. Kan, sale of mar.
cotics. All sentences but Gordon's
were in Marion County JAIL
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1925-06-17
CITY ADVERTISEMENT
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
OFFICE OF THE BOARD

ro Indian az u Ind %6N 5gns 49, 1925
Pubic R' Works see Of the City q indiaDspos.
Indiana. that It is desired and deemed nee;
essSry to make the f9 tbs sy, DESCRIBED ri
apolis as authorized by the following num-
bered Improvement resolution. adopted by
said Board on the 10Th day n OF June Ok 1s2o
r1Tg 9sY W EsSu oP u 81 SS AvE
By grading and paving the alley With
inch gravel ray concrete foundation from
inches of property line to inches Of prop.
s prcyvd hS e 80 n n OF HR g. S7S fss
in. Standard Steel Paving Guard as speed
With Asphaltic- Concrete laid on a 4.irch
sphaltic-concrete. base, to the above
named Width and grSSSNding l353 lin it,
Also extending all water. gas. sewer and
Other private service CONNECTIONS to prop
All to be as shown on plan and as speci-
Ali work done in the making of said
Of the 1mproyement Resolution. as mum
R %o oO Rte above Sy the named Beard d Of and .u h
stesa dssw ~sh d psns On Ee asd as
lie S Works OF Of the CITY S of Indiap indian
fixed Monday, July 8, 1925. at z p. M az
place for the public consideration OF the
proposed Improvement at which time said
Board of Public Works will hear all perS
sons interested. or whose property is LA
BILE TO. be assessed for said improvement.
and will determine whether the benefits to
tho property liable to be assessed for such
Improvement and tho benefits to the City
OF Indianapolis will equal the estimated
cost thereof -.
By order Of the Board of Public Works
CHARLES E. COFFIN.
Y. H. l EpESEssENM4,AAN,
Board. of Public Works City Of naa.--
apolis,
June IL and "a. 1895.
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Deaths

Harriet Ann Clark. so. 464 N. Gray.
chronic myocarditie.
George Gray Holiday, 81, SIS N nli-
nois tuberculosis.
Hebeeb r, David 81. 244e N. Della
ware. sarcoma.
Caroline Lyon futile. rs. 2522 Ashland.
cerebral hemorrhage
Beatrice M. Watson, -, 2430 Bellefon-
taine, chronic valvular heart disease.
Leva Echo Ellison. 10. Christian Hos
pital eclampsia
Elizabeth Grant, 81, city hospital
acute cardiac dilataUon.
Caroline Noe, 70, 433 Limestone, acute
dilatation of heart.
Flora Logan, So, city hospital. car
cinoma
Hiram. Bodine Bridge, 7o, 27o1 Paris
Julia Dermett. So, a 1921 College, arterio.
sclerosis
Ada Workman, 80, city hospital gen
eral tuberculosis
Louis McMilen, rs. city hospital, OBJ
structon OF bowels.
Daisy Bryan Thomson. go, 3456 Cen
trial, pernicious anemia;
third degree burns, accidental.
Kate Thomas, IS, 275 Parkview, acute
myOCarditia.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1925-06-17
GRAIN FUTURES
SHOOT UPWARD
Wheat and Corn Appear to
Be Established.

BIZ United Press
CHICAGO, June 17.-Grain flu
lures made drastic upward revisions
at opening Of the Board of Trade to-
day.
The process Of sterilization ep-
peared under way at the start N
wheat dealings. All interests took
liberal offers despite bearish trend
of news following all-night rains
over the entire growing belt.
Corn got its cue from wheat. Buy
ing was of considerable volume, led
by commission houses.
An oversold condition brought
about buying in oats. Provisions held
nominally steady without individual
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1925-06-17
30 LEGAL NOTICES
CITY ADVERTISEMENT
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
OFFICE OF THE BOARD

OFFICE OF THE BOARD
10 wH Hp0dMiPn a MAY ND SoN JHns + 1879
Public Works of the City of Indianapolis
Indiana, that on the 9Th day Of June
loTy seK @o 1888 of the
beclaratory Resolution Mo No ,d12S3SSk
Resolved. By the Board 2 q ,I Public
s os tot the o DESIRED and dseR@ed
sSaRsss2T Z &R 9R{&3 MOTH 6Bs OF gE29KsDH
a. 0V vest St. properly line me- q, Rural St, =
ticuiarly described as follows ~
he nSsFtR lIEns # lot o 10 zig q ysIenS
south OF, and parallel TO- the north line
springdale Addition a distance Of 199
Sence feet Ct north IL feet Ct i and p5RT SR
to-. the north line of said lots No. 113
and 121 to the east line Of Temple Tempt Ave Ave;
pie Ave. DISTANCE of IL feet. to the
that included in the following described
); beginning at the center line Of Rural
gay North Driyeb thence north in Rural
Connaroe's Addition produced east ;
thence west, with the north line of said
let No. 1. to the west line Of said lot;
Nos. l. 2, g. and 8 in Connaroes Add
hon to the north line of lot No 3;
thence west. with the north line of said
lot No. 5. produced, a distance Of 10
feet. to point; thence, south. parallel
of 1888 feet, to 9 point; thence west
parallel to. the south line Of Seventeenth
st., to the center line of Temple Ave.
thence south with the center line of Tenn
pie Ave. 70 the center line of Brookside
the center line of Btookside Parkway
North Drive. to the center line of Rural
St., the place Of beginning"
The Board of Public Works of said city
has fixed Monday. June 20. 1925, as a
date upon which remonstrances may be
filed or presented by persons interested
IS above described, and on said day AZ
its office for the purpose of hearing and
considering any circumstances which may
purpose of taking final action thereon.
such ACTIONS shall be final and conclusive
- CHARLES E. COFFIN.
$40 w. II. FREEMAN,
M. j. SPENCER.
BOARD OF Public Works City of Indian
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Commission Row
Price TO Retailers
Fruits

Price to Retailers
Fruits
Grapefruit-Florida. sen so,
Lomons--Calfornia, 300s Sill,
oranges-Calitornia Valencias. S6.5o@
p: Florida, 50 so ii o.
ineappies-Cuban crate. S3.5o34.
Vegetables
Asparag us-Home- grown, green, doEen,
81 20, white. coo.
Beans--Hamper. 81 90 1850.
Beets-TeXas punched. 6bc.
Cabbage-New Tennessee crate, S2.76.
Cauliower-Cahfornla $3.50.
Carrots--Southern punched 50.
CCrn-Tcxas. bu. 50.
ucumbers-Southtrn dozen. II .30.
Kale--Home-grow bu. 81 so,
Lettuce-Western Iceberg crate 50.
MangOes-Southern. basket 66c.
Mushrooms--Home-gr grown. h. 500.
Crion-California yellows, $3.50.
Parsley--Dozen punches, 81.
Peas-Mississippi bu. 50 so.
Potatoes-Michigan, l5Qlb bag, $3.50;
New North Carolina Cobblers $3.50. New
Illinois Early Ohios, Sd
R9dishes-M ssissippi dozen, 40@ 00c.
NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS., dozen. 500.
Tomatoes--Basket 81 70 q 2 20.
Turnips-SOuthern baskets, 76d.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1925-06-17
Governments
Births

Boys
william and Pearl Pyatt 322 N. Add
Earnest and Jennie Bell. 3o31 w. Mich
igan.
igaD.
George and Bertha Elston. 1873 N. Bel
mont
william and Lola Keenan,. Clark Blakes
lee Hospital.
Girls
Richard and Catherine HOPKINS. 143S N
Holmes.
Roy and Elsa Parson. 2445 Yandes.
Alonzo and Helen Craig. 1923 N. Ia
coma.
Twins
Stephen and Evelyn Zipoh. $50 N
Traub. boy and girl
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80 LEGAL NOTICES
CITY ADVERTISEMENT
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
OFFICE OF THE BOARD


TO wH EoSM'q IA MAY ING SoS SHRf IT, 1925
Notice is hereby given by the Board
apoiis, Indians. that on a' the 18th day A Of
June 1925. they approved assessment
roll showing prirl1 facte assessments for
ment as authorized by the Improvement
Resolution named:
Improvement Resolution No. 1924
FIRST ALLEY WEST OF KOEHNE ST.
:. 10 south property line of Nineteenth
By grading and paving the alley with
Asphaltic-C Concrete or Brick. laid on a g.
inch gravel concrete foundation; or grad.
d o ON n2nc x1a Saes
q properly line e a Uniform width Of 4 4
Strstifed limestone Marginal Stone, or
4 x2x2-inch Standard Steel Paving Guard
az eeSS ndI or Pr9yddng l90a n H.
al Stone as shown on plan.
Also extending al water, gas. sewer and
other private service connections to prop
All to be as shown on plan and as speed
Persons interested in or affected by said
described public Improvement are hereby
notified that the Board of Public Works OF
said city has fixed Friday. June 20. 1925,
Zoo p M as date upon N which remon
the amount assessed against each piece
Of properly esribed in said roll and will
rd the ~ to whether Ssa or g
be benefited in the amounts named on said
roll or in a greater or less sum than that
named on said roll.
Said assessment roll showing said prima
facie assessments, with the names Of own
ers and descriptions of property subject
to be assessed. is on file and may be seen
at the office of the Board of Public Works
CHARLES E. COFFIN,
w. H FREEMAN.
M. J. SPENCER.
Board of Public Works. Oity of Indian
apolis.
The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1925-06-17
In the SUGAR Market

Although rehners completed purchases
Of upward Of $50. 900 bags OF raws during
the past twenty-four hours. IL is unlikely
that full melting requirements have been
provided for beyond the first week OF
fined have been sold to Europe for late
July shipment which Is taken as verihca-
ton of the better demand abroad. The
follows a better demand against with
A-o