Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1925-04-01

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ures to accept. which ono is the bill
tor from Kennebec Is absolutely sure
they will Overwhelmingly reject both.
Let us give them a chance to do it.
That is all we are asking. We do not
ask you to put the seal of your APP
prevail on either. We simply say, pass
that Senate order which submits these
bills to tho people and allows the peo-
Pile to pass on them.
The PRESIDENT: Is the Senate
ready for the question? Will the sem
ator make his motion again?
Mr.. ANTHOINE: Mr.. President, I'M
der the parliamentary situation as ex-
planned by the senator from Cumber-
land, I understand that the adoption
of Report A. ought not to pass on the
Cakes Anthoine bill, carries with the
passage an order referring 1t to the
people, and therefore move the adop-
ton Of Senate Report A.
Mr.. CARTER: Mr.. President, I rise
again to a point of information.
Wouldn't 1t be possible to accept the
report Ought not to pass" on the
Cakes -Anthoine bill, then with anoth-
err vote submit it as an alternative
with the initiative and referendum?
L DO not like 10 see tulS CcuotC 81 VA
record, or I do not like to go on record
in a vote that apparently accepts an
amendment to the primary law. On
the other hand, very much feel the
force Of the argument or statement
Of the members of the judiciary COM
mittee as to carrying along with the
initiative and referendum this other
matter. think that the people might
as we'll decide the whole thing at once,
but 1 would like If it is possible under
parliamentary procedure to see this
Senate go on record as against the
Cakes -Anthoine bill Having gone on
record against the Oakes-Anthoine bill
in a vote, then send along these mat
tiers, but by two separate votes. rather
than by one vote which covers both.
Mr.. HINCKLEY: Mr.. President. If
the Senators will just take their cal
endar and look at S. D. 269 and read
it. they will find these words Sen
ate report from the committee on
judiciary. report a, ought not to
pass, and report further that q
joint order relating TO an act en-
titled an act to provide the method
of nominating candidates for office
reported herewith have a passage.
That is the report of the committee.
That means we reject the Cakes
Anthoine bill and recommend the
passage of an order attached there
to. 1t seems to me that is as clear
as anything can be, and having in
mind, as l explained moment ago.
that last Friday the initiative bill
was reported and has gone alone and
passed out of this body and will be
question is now, what shall we do
here? Report A Is in proper form
and one vote on it means that this
Senate rejects the Oakes-Anthoine
bill but agrees to have it submitted
to the people. Report B means that
1t defeats the Oakes-ADthoine bill
and does not agree to have it go to
the people.
Mr.. MAHER: EIr. President.
think that agree perfectly. although
; / signed that majority report, with
the Senator from Androscoggin, and
it is not any more than fair for the
record to show that Mr.. Cakes. who
was member of the Judiciary COM
| mittee, in order to have unanimous
! action on his bill SO that it would
not be confusing. so there would be
no report at all in favor of it, joined
the majority in repeating Ought not
to pass" on his own measure. to
which was first coupled the order
submitting Is as a competing meas
ure. 1 think everything that the
Senator from Androscoggin has said.
not In any sense as a structure but
in proper criticism. is really true
with reference to that majority re-
port; I think it is inartifcial. l think
1t would have been better straight
Ought not to pass" or Ought to
pass" and I apprehend the vote on
that would have been in committee
something like eight to two Ought
not to pass" But as it is. there Is
no report Ought to pass'-so 1 think
that removes somewhat the difficult
ty in the mind of the Sena tor from
Androscoggin. Both reports are
Ought not to pass" and Report A
! simply carries with it the order Of a
competing measure.
Mr.. CARTER: Mr.. President, I
think that by this discussion which
has taken place in the Senate the pur-
pose of the action IF the Senate is ac-
| complished very fully. and that 1t
puts this Republican Senate on record
as being against all bills which change
| the primary law. but submitting these
two bills to the people with their en-
| dorsement against the Oakes-Anthoine
bill, and If any senator should take it
| from any remarks I have made that I
am against this order. 1 wish to dis
abuse their minds. For under the con-
ditions which now exist. with the thor
ough, clean understanding of the
standing of the Senate, the Republic
| cans in the Senate. am going to sup
| port the order when it comes to a vote
Mr.. ALLEN of York: Mr.. President,
| being just an ordinary, common, every
/ day individual, with just the ordinary
! amount of common sense and knowl-
edge. it has got beyond me. have lis
| tened to them with a great deal of
pleasure and I have got some informa-
| ton out of it. but 1t has not given me
! enough information SO that I could
| act wisely on this measure. 1t seems
to me that 1t is muddled up to that
degree that a motion to indefinitely
postpone the whole business would
clarity the situation and make that
| motion.
The PRESIDENT: The Chair will
state the motion before the last motion
was that of the senator from Cumber-
! land. Senator Anthoine, that Report A.
Ought not to pass" be accepted, and
, as the Chair understands 1t S. D. 269
as appears on this calendar is merged
with S. d. 270-however the merger
| took place the Chair does not know,
| and will say he is in doubt about it.
The motion now is the motion of
the senator from York. Senator Allen.
Mr.. ANTHOINE: Mr.. President, |
rise to point of order.
| The PRESIDENTS: The senator may
state his point of order.
Mr.. ANTHOINE: Whether or not
that motion is in order prior to the
| acceptance or rejection of report.
The subject matter. Mr.. President, is
not yet before, the body.
| The PRESIDENT: The Chair will
rule it is on the acceptance of the re-
port.