Evening star., 1925-01-10
BASE BALL SCANDAL TESTIMONY
Barred BY COMMISSIONER LANDIS
Evidence Clears All of Giants But O'ConneH and
DoIan-Coach Hurt by O,Vn altitude
at Hearing.
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tnat conversation?
Mr.. Dolan-No, I don't remember
having said anything like that at
| all.
Judge Landis-How long had you
| known Sands?
Mr.. Dolan--Just to speak to him.
| Judge Landis-How long?
Knew Sands Some Time.
Mr.. Dolan-Since he has been with
| the Philadelphia ball team.
Judge Landis-How long has that
| been?
Mr.. Dolan-I think he has been
there-I don't know whether it is two
| or three years. I could not say right
! off hand.
Judge Landis-It has been two or
| three years, has it?
| Mr.. Dolaii--I think it has.
Judge Landis-Has he ever done
| anything under your observation, or
have you ever heard of his having
ever done anything that would make
| you think that he would be the kind
| Of a man to make such a proposition
| to? -
Mr.. Dolan-what proposition do
you mean? .t.
Judge Landis-Offering him $500
| not bear down too hard against you.
| Mr.. Dolan-As l say, l knew him
| two or three years
Judge Landis-Men get pretty well
acquainted in two or three years.
Have you ever heard anything about
| him that would lead you to think that
| he would fall for any such thing?
1 Mr.. Dolan--As to offer him money?
Judge Landis-Yes.
Mr.. Dolan-In what way?
| Judge Landis-Just as we have been
| talking here
| Mr.. Dolan-No.
Game Cinched Pennnnt.
Judge Landis-We are still talking
! about this thing here.
| Mr.. Dolan-I don't think he would
Judge Landis-Where was New
/ York in the pennant race at the be-
ginning OF last Saturdays game? How
| close were you to a pennant?
Mr.. Dolan-I think we were a game
and half or a game and a point, or
something like that, ahead.
| Judge Landis-Did not Saturdays
| victory over Philadelphia cinch the
| pennant for the Giants?
| Mr.. Dolan-Yes-that Is, IL Brooklyn
| lost.
Judge Landis-Well. Brooklyn lost
| Mr.. Dolan-Yes, sir.
Judge Landis-And New York won
against Philadelphia?
| Mr.. Dolan-Yes, sir.
Judge Landis-And that cirched the
| pennant?
Mr.. Dolan-Yes sir.
Judge Landis-Before this conver-
! sation that Mr. O'Connen has told
! about, did you have any talk with
anybody about the general subject? :?
MIR. Dolan-Not that l can remem-
Der about it.
Judge Landis--After OConnen came
back to the bench did you have a
| talk with anybody about this7
Mr.. Dolan-Just what are you re-
ferring to?
Judge Landis-To this subject of
talking with Sands.
| Mr.. Dolan-No sir.
| stiil Can't Remember.
Judge Landis-Did you have any
talk with any member OF the team g?
Mr.. Dolan-Not that I can remem-
Der.
Judge Landis-And you cannot re-
member having a talk with any mem
ber of the team or anybody connected
with the team about that particular r
subject before this conversation that
O'Connell tells me about?
Mr.. Dolan-Not that l can remem-
Der, Judge.
Judge Landis-Have you any idea
In your mind why OConnell would
tell me this il it had not happened?
Mr.. Dolan-I don't know. l cam
not recall any conversation like that.
| Judge Landslide seems to be in
his right mind, doesn't he?
Mr.. Dolan-I guess so.
Judge Landis-Have you any rea-
son in the world why he should tell
me this if it had not happened?
Mr.. Dolan-I don't know; I have
no idea.
Judge Landis-Have your relations
with O'Connell been friendly?
| Mr.. Dolan--On the same ball club,
| suppose so. We have always been
friends.
Knew of No Disagreement.
Judge Landis-Have you ever felt
that he was not your friend. or have
you ever felt that you were not his
friend?
Mr.. Dolan-No, sir.
Judge Landis-I wish you would
think over pretty carefully. Cozy, and
see If you can recall any conversation
with anybody else or any member Of
the New York team about this. The
subject of this conversation Is one
that would not escape your mind in
| three days time.
Mr. Dolan-I cannot remember any
conversation like that.
> Judge Landis--With anybody?
Mr. Dolan--No, L cannot.
Judge Lands is your memory
} pretty good?
Mr. Dolan-I guess so.
Judge Landslide you think that
you might have had a conversation
about this subject and forgot 1t in
| three days?
| Mr.. Dolan--I don't think so. I don't
! remember. There was so much stuff
going around the clubhouse
Judge Landis--I say, do you think
you could have had such a. converse
ton as this and forgot 1t in three
days?
Mr.. Dolan-No, don't think so.
Judge Landis-You don't think so,
but you think it is possible that 1t
> might?
Mr.. Dolan-I would not say that
at all
Judge Landis--Just what do you
: say? You said to me three or four
} times that you have no memory as to
, such a conversation, that you cannot
recall any such conversation.
Mr.. Dolan--That is my answer.
> cannot recall it. / don't remember 1T
: Sands Refused oner.
:, Judge Landis-Mr. OConnel1, as
understood YOU to tell me, in thi,
conversation you had with Player
Sands, you asked him who the fel-
lows were for-by fellows meaning
the Philadelphia players-and Sand:
replied they were not for anybody.
Mr.. O'Connell-That is right
5 Judge Landis-That they were jus
playing the season out, and yot
e asked him then If he would not bear
down against US in a pinch-mean.
| ing the New York team--that there
was some money in it for him, $500
like that; that he would go out ant
, do his best