Evening star., 1925-06-19
MIXED UP,' FA|MAN
ADMITS ON STAND
Counsel for Shepherd Ques-
tions Accuser on Typhoid
Germ Story.
By the Associated Press.

By the Associated Press.
CHICAGO, June determination
of the cross-examination of Charles
c. Faiman in the Shepherd murder
trial was delayed this morning while
the attorneys argued in chambers.
The defense sought to have Judge
Thomas ]. Lynch permit questioning
of Faiman about alleged shady
deals at his school, the National Uni
versity of Sciences, where. he testified
yesterday, William d. Shepherd OBJ
tanned three test tubes of typhoid
baclli and instructions how to use
them in Staying William y. MCClin-
took. his millionaire foster son.
The State contended the defense
could not bring out anything except
Infamous" crimes against Il witness.
The defense argument was that
other irregular acts could be indicated
1egitinately in the Faiman instance
because he was an accomplish
Defense Loses Fight.
The question which precipitated the
argument was intended to go into
whether Faiman had been promised
that he would not be returned to
Minneapolis, Mimi. to face an indict-
ment if he would testify against
Shepherd. 1t was the first of a series
prepared by the defense to try to show
the jury that Faiman was unworthy
of belief because Of alleged shady
transactions and acts.
The court finally decided against the
defense and Faiman resumed the
stand.
Faiman was handed transcript of
his testimony at the hearing at which
he was granted bail and with another
copy in his hand, w. S. Stewart, chief
of defense counsel, attempted to show
where Faiman's accusation OF Shep-
herd yesterday differed from his pre-
viouS sworn statement.
Two of ten meetings with Shepherd
described yesterday were not touched
upon in the bail hearing testimony.
mixed Up" Says Faiman.
I'm mixed up on it, said Faiman.
II know you are mixed up on il.
that is why l am going over it in this
manner" replied Stewart
It was during that series of meet
tngs, testified Faiman. that Shepherd
was given the germs and instructed
how to kill the rich youth.
Shepherd watched the proceedings
intently and strained forward in an
effort to hear Faiman's low-voiced
statements. Across the aisle from the
defendant Mrs. Julie Shepherd and
the two pretty girls who have been
her constant court companions were
no less interested.
Mrs Shepherd was garbed as usual
in the heavy mourning she has worn
since the death of young McClintock.
whom she had mothered Is years.
Tells of Typhoid Cultures.
How long did you have the typhoid
cultures you say you gave Shepherd
before you let him have them?" asked
Stewart.
Couple of months" replied Faiman
Where did you keep them
"In the ice box
Faiman said he got the germs from
the city Health Department, but could
not name nor identify the man from
whom he obtained them. He said he
was not asked his name nor was any
record of his obtaining the germs
made.
"All you did was to walk up, say
give me three tubes, get them and
walk out?" asked Stewart.
YES" said Faiman.
Posed as Doctor.
Faiman admitted that at his school
and hospital he had posed as ply
sician, but denied that he ever had
operated upon any one.
Stewart tried to show that Faiman
had made false reports of hospital
patients for the purpose of obtaining
alcohol, but Faiman denied 1t. He
admitted he did get alcohol, but denied
he bootlegged it.
Faiman denied he used his hospital
school for "peddling DOPE or that he
had obtained narcotics through own
ing the school
You let patients who called believe
you were a doctor and discussed what
IT,
asked Stewart
Yes" said Faiman.
And you we're not physician?'
NO" admitted Faiman.
Denies Being Hit.
Trouble with John p. Marchand
former employe. was the last subject
upon which Faiman was questioned.
Faiman denied Marchand had struck
him while they were in the office of
the states attorney.
Stewart produced the bail-hearing
transcript and showed Faimen then
had said Marchand had struck him.
Stewart tried to show that after
Faiman had denied that he knew any
thing about Shepherd until the attack
by Marchand. Faiman then agreed to
accuse Shepherd.
Prosecutor Grove explained that DR.
George f. Fosberg. Lewis Kless and
Robert White, named as State wit
nesses, would not be called, as he
could not vouch for their testimony
The State then rested its case and
the defense began introducing evi-
dence.
Chief Justice Harry Olson Of the
Municipal Court, who has been the
chief figure in the prosecution of Shep-
herd. declared today that regardless Of
the outcome of the Shepherd trial
isabelle Pope McC1intock's fiancee)
will come into possession of the Nc
Clintock fortune"