The daily worker. [volume] (Chicago, Ill.) 1924-1958, 1925-02-06
W. P. DEFEATS
S.P. IN DEBATE,
VOTE 1875 TO 7
Swabeck Skaters Points
Made by Socialist


MILWAUKEE,, Wis, Feb. Am
enthusiastic audience witnessed a de.
bate between the socialist party and
Worker Party on the question Of
Democracy versus Proletarian Die
tatorship."
Arne Swabeck in a masterful fash.
ion analysed all of the points brot out
by Ernest Unterman, an old war horse
and theoretician of the socialist
party.
Class Struggle and Revolution.
In answer to the pious appeal of the
is. P. for peaceful, evolutionary meth
DDS, Arne Swabeck quoted the con-
Guiding parts of the Communist
Manifesto. "The Communists disdain
to conceal their aims. They openly
declare that their ends can be at
tanned only by the forcible overthrow
Of all existing social conditions. Let
the ruling classes tremble at a Com
munist revolution. The proletarians
have nothing to lose but their chains
and the world to gain" This stirring
appeal for the true teachings Of Marx
and against the perversion of Marx
ism by the leader of the Two-and-a-
Half International stirred the audi
ence to a fighting spirit and gained
its support to the side Of the Workers
Party.
Swabeck exposed the hypocrisy Of
the fig leaf of bourgeois democracy
hiding the iron fist of capitalist die
tatorship. Did you forget the Berg.
er's case in congress? How about the
socialist alderman in New York? he
asked embarrassed Unterman. How
about the white terror during the
steel strike and every other strike?
What was the last Injunction in the
railroad strike If not dictatorship of
the capitalist class? Look at Italy.
said Swabeck there you can see the
iron fist of capitalist dictatorship in
all its nakedness.
Democracy and Dictatorship.
When Unterman attempted to link
up the Communists with anarchists
on the question of the proletarian die
tatorship Swabeck quickly came back
and quoted Marx: That the transit
ton period from capitalism to Com
munism can be nothing else than the
proletarian dictatorship. Paris Com
mune was the first great lesson" said
Unterman which taught us that we
should not use force in the struggle.
And to this Swabeck came back with
the true lessons Of the Paris Com
mune as taught by Marx and Lenin
that the reason the Paris Commune
failed was because they did not exer-
else the proletarian Dictatorship.
Comrade Swabeck advised Inter
man to read Lenin's book "The State
and Revolution" in order to under
stand that the state arose as the re-
suit Of the division Of society into
conflicting social groups and since
these groups exist the state can be
nothing else than the organ of sup
preston in the services of the ruling
class. Comrade Swabeck also pointed
out that while it is important to have
the class consciousness of the major
ity, yet it is of the most vital import
ance that the proletariat should have
party of its own, composed of the
most revolutionary section Of the
working class to guide it toward the
final goal of the proletarian revolu-
ton, the overthrow Of the capitalist
order and the establishment of the
Communist society.
After the debate the vote was
taken and the Workers Party was
awarded the decision by the audience
by the vote of 1875 too.
There will be another debate with
the S. P.'ites on the Dawes plan be-
tween Max Bedacht of the Workers
Party and Unterman Of the socialist
party.