Atlanta tri-weekly journal. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1920-19??, 1924-08-07

a statement by Mr.. Grove that while
in his custody before they confessed
and shortly after that time the boys
had become angry at each other, and
refused to eat with each other.
Mr.. Grove brought from the wit
ness a statement that ''psychosis' is
''in medical parlanCe a term now
given to insanity" and that pre-
viously he had made a report that
one of the defendants was suffering
from psychosis, which, the doctor
added. was a "relatiVe mental dis
ease"
Many Mind Diseases
Mr. Grove still hammering at the
"insanity" angle, asked if ''psychoz
sis" "insane," or "bughouse" did not
mean the same.
There are many, many different
diseases and it is extremely difficult
to determine replied the witness.
Shortly afterward the state fin
ished its cross-eXamination and Mr..
DarrOW asked: rs the idea Of plan
ming in any way inconsistent with
a diseased mentality" and DR. Healy
answered that he had seen cases of
it. and insresponse to another Ques-
ton said the emotion of self preser-
walton is common in persons suffer
ing from mental disease"
Mr.. Grove offered his usual ObjeC-
ton and demand for a jury trial and,
also as usual, was overruled, and
DR.. Gluecll under, questioning, of
Benjamin Bachrach, proceeded to
orders.
DIR. Glueck's first remarks indi-
Gated he was going over much the
White and Healy. He spoke in
droning monotone and insisted that
the be permitted to tell his story in
his own way when defense counsel
tried to guide him along a legal path
way.
DR.. Glueck was testifying as to his
findings regarding Loeb's early child
hood when at 1888 p. M, Judge Cav
erly directed an adjournment until
1920 tomorrow morning.
DOdges Insanity Trap
When DR.. Haly resumed he told
Mr., Grove that the boys did not tell
him which originated the crime nor
did he%haye any notes which might
help him answer, that he had not
gone into that phase in the examina-
ton.
Doctor would you not come to
the conclusion that if a moral de-
cent. clean-Hving man had committed
q crime of this sort, he certainly was
n 81 2''
II should not be of any opinion
whatsoever, it should be gone into,
replied the witness.
IF you found that person, or
persons. who had committed this
crime prior to that time had been
cheats at cards, firebugs. thieves and
perVerts you wouldn't be surprised.
would you?" asked the prosecutor.
yes" was the reply.
In what respect?' asked Mr..
Grove.
1T is a much more remarkable
crime said DIR. Healy.
Intellect, Not Fantasy
Questions by Mr.. Grove as to the
meaning of "insanity' were ruled
out by Judge CaverIy. The prosecu.
tor has sought diligently to have in.
troduced a statement by defense
witnesses that Loeb and Leopold are
insane and thereby cause a jury
trial
DR.. Healy and Mr.. Grove fenced
craftiIy, the witness refusing to
hazard opinions on generalities.
Mr.. Grove went through the
crime, as confessed by the youths
step by step, asking DR.. Healy after
each assertion: WAS that intellect
or childish fantasy working when
they did that"
Almost invariably DR.. Healy re
Piled:
1T was their intellect working"
TN other words every detail OF
this crime is the result Of intellect
and not fantasy?" asked Mr., Grove.
Il think So" replied the doctor
Mr.. Grove sought to bring out that
certain emotion displayed by the
youths when their alibis were broken
down could be described as fear"
Making those assumptions, re
piled the doctor, Il should say that
was fear"
Loeb is the master criminal here.
isn't he?" asked Grove.
Yes. l think so" replied the doc
tor.
I1eaIN hecpS Ills Nerve
DR.. Healy retained his equanimity
under a hot fire of cross examination
by AIR, Grove, smiling easily and
displaying no nervousness as the
prosecutor sought TO destroy the
value of his testimony as a matter
of meTiting consideration in fixing
punishment At one time Mr.. Grove
and DR.. Healy got into a lengthy
comparison OF juvenile courts and
work on criminal courts, DR.. Healy
explaining most of his work was
with boys under 10.
Then YOU have not had much ex-
perienCe with criminals springing
from millionaire families and who
are college graduates, have you,
Doctor asked Mr.. Grove. The de-
Tense objected
Another question by Mr.. Grove
brought an objection from Mr.. Oar
row. part of il being because no
1S-year-old boys ever have been
hanged in Illinois," At this poin,
court recessed tor lunch.
Smile Slows Grove
Al the beginning of the afternoon
session Dr.. Healy said that Loeb's
criminalis1ic activities began when
AT the age OF nine he stole "a dollar
or two from a neIghbor boy after
the lad had buried il to keep it safely
and that the act was followed hv
breaking into house next door.
A few seconds later Nh. Grove re