San Antonio light. [volume] (San Antonio, Tex.) 1911-1993, 1924-03-17

thing tho fight film conspiracy
was jap Muma.
Spcllacy also said he had been told
the whole story Of the film affair
| lioldridge said. and Muma later him
self told him tho details, involving
Quimby and others.
Holdridge later was told by Mnma,
he said. that the attorney general was
the head of the whole conspiracy and
that William j. Burns was standing
in on it,
After he returned TO Albany. the
witness said, he mentioned TO Spellacy
that he was preparing a report on the
Dempsey-Carpentier fight film case.
With some excitement he testi-
fled. "Spellacy told me the man at
the head of the whole thing was Jap
Muma. / took him TO quiet place and
told him to tell about it,
Went to Mclean Home.
Holdridge said Muma told him that
on July ,. 1921. he tMuma) brought
the films here and went 10 the home
of Edward Il. Mclean, the publisher.
The pictures were exhibited at Me,
Leans house. the witness said. and
Postmaster General New. and various
cabinet officers and ambassadors were
present.
Mr.. Daugherty. Mr.. New and
George Christian. President Harding $
secretary, discussed with Muma the
exhibition of the films, the witness
said Muma told him.
Muma said Mr.. Daugherty told him.
according 10 the witness, that the law
prohibited only transportation of the
films and suggested TO Muma that he
take up the matter with Alfred K.
Urion. 4 lawyer here.
Muma said be had reached an I'M
derstanding" with Urion, HoldridSe
stated. He added that Muma told
him I'VE went 10 il"
There was to be a goat in each
state To be fined. Muma told him. the
witness added, and there was to be an
effort to get a line" on the attitude
Of federal judges.
Muma told him that either Judge
lands of Illinois or Judge Anderson
of Indiana had such a hostile attitude
that the matter was dropped, Hold
ridge said, adding that he believed the
reference was TO Judge Anderson.
Quimby Got Scared.
Muma said Quimby became alarmed
after talks with Spellacy and Ralph
Navarro. department agents, and went
to Washington to see Mclean, Hold
ridge testified.
Muma said he told Mclean that he
(Muma) was headed for the Atlanta
penitentiary," the witness quoted
Muma as saying.
Then. he said. Muma told him Nc
Lean got in touch with Mr.. Daugh-
erty."
Describing the exhibition at Nc
Leans home. the witness said;
Acting on agreements previously
made on or about July 4. 1921, Muma
left New York for Washington.
What arrangements asked Sen
ator Wheeler.
He passed over that casually"
Holdridge then said Muma told him
of the private showing here. attended
by the President and members OF the
cabinet.
Following the exhibition Of the pic
lures" Holdridge went on, ''Muma
had a talk with Attorney General
Daugherty and the President"
Secretary Christian. Secretary
Hughes and Mr.. New joined them and
the discussion became general.
He told me it seemed TO be the
general opinion that it was a shame
people could not see Them the wit
ness went on. Later Muma, talking
with the attorney general, he told me,
was told that the law against the pic
lures was solely directed to transporta-
ton.
Urion middle Man"
"Muma went on to say Attorney
General Daugherty directed him to see
Alfred r. Urion, an attorney in Wash
ington. Muma broke out TO me: He's
the greatest middle man in the
world" Af
He said he saw Urion and that he
told him what to do" Holdridge re-
sumed. HE said he had great influ
ence with both the Democratic and Re
publican parties and with the big
newspapers"
Muma then was quoted as saying
there was to be goat" to be arrested