The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1924-05-16

d. Goff was thsre at the time and
other officials from the Depart
meIlt."
"How much did you pay Jesse
Srith at that timer"
Approximately $4,000"
Where did you see him next2"
Has Cancelled Checks.
"At the railroad station in In.
dianaDolis," said Remus. HE was
with the Attorney General and Mr..
Gcff. ! didn't meet the others"
"Who was with him when you
raid the n:Orey to him?"
Nobody, we were alone"
didn't you draw from your
account in cash checks $270,0NO
which was paid over to Jesse
Smith7"
II cannot answer that question
categorically. said Remus. IT
would have. to refresh my memory
from the cancelled checks"
"You always paid Jesse Smith
in person7"
Eyes"
"You never sent the money by
messenger"
mo" q
Remus said his cancelled checks
were saved by Mrs. Remus.
81 only found that out when the
income people got after me-" he
added.
where else aid you meet
Smith,
cat the DeschlSr Hotel in Colum.
bus" =.
"TIow often did you meet him
there ai ray hin?"
Three or four times"
Where else did you meet hiIn?"
Paid In Washington.
AT the Sinton Hotel In Gin.
cinnati and the Washington Hotel
In Washington.
when was that7"
''In 1892"
what did you pay him at the
Washington hotel?"
IT can't ssy. The whiskey with
drawals were coming through and
according 10 our gantleman's
agreement, 1t was up to me to pay
him. I did So"
"What became Of whiskey with
drawn for medicinal purposes?"
Indiana, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Illinois,
New York and Missouri"
Purpose Of Meeting.
Ibid you pay 8 NTH money
every time you met him?"
YES, that was the purpose Of
our meeting" said Remus, while
the crowd laughed.
"You had no social acquaintance
with him?"
mo, 1t was a cold.blooded bust
ness proposition and not bit Of
sentiment in It," Remus replied.
After you were indicted did
you have any conversation with
Smith,"
Eyes, several times at the Com
modore and Plaza hotels In New
York"
What did he say?"
THAT there would be q vigorous
prosecution by the Department Of
Justice, but ultimately never
would go to the penitentiary."
THAT vigorous prosecution was
to be only a blind?"
Promise Of Freedom.
"I'm sorry to say that wasn't
true, but that is what he told me-"
said Remus.
What did Smith say?"
HE said, There will be a vigor-
Gus prosecution and there may be
a conviction, but that an appeal
would be taken to the appellate
court and the verdict reversed"
the witness said AS q lawyer,
thought that was right"
Remus said the judge had with
drawn some Of the testimony which
was in his favor.
did Jess Smith say 1t would not
make any difference even II the
Court of Appeals affirmed the trial
courts dScision?"
Paid After Conviction.
Yes, he said 90, even after my
conviction" said Remus. HE said
that he could arrange 1t 30 I need
never serve q day in Jail"
Where did he tell you this?"
"At the Washington Hotel here"
How much money did you pay
him that timer"
Between $40, 900 and $780, 900"
THAT was after your conviction"
YES, indeed"
Quotes Exact Words"
"What were Smiths exact words?"
Smith said I might be convicted
but he felt the appellate court would
set aside the verdict and u 1t did
not he would see that I wouldn't
get to JAIL"
Did he say he would arrange
that through the Attorney Gereral?"
Eyes. he said the General would
see that I never wnet to JAIL"
Remus added. HE said that be.
fore any commitment was sent to
the marshall Communication would
be issued" 80
through his influence with the At
torney General?"
YES"
Ibid he say that?" Senator Moses
interposed.
HE did"
Conversation Is Related"
Relate the conversation"
II said that not one Of the de-
PENDANTS had taken the witness
stand and that he had assured me
theer would be no conviction. told
him II l had taken the stand ]
could have thrown out several Of
the defendants who now stand con-.
voted. They were the drivers and
the office boy"
you mean that you wanted to
take the blame and clear .he others
who were morally innocentY'
Exactly"
when did. Smith tell you the
Attorney General had given him
assurances YOU would 60 free?"
when the case went to the Eu.
preme Court