The Washington times., 1924-01-24
POINCARE STIRS
BAVAR|ANS
TO HATE
Or. Franz schweyer, Minister
Of Interior. Says French
Aid separatists.
BY BERNARD PERSON,
international News Service.

MUNICH, Jan. 24.-Wherever one
goes in Bavaria these days one hears
q hymn of hate against France. To-
day, In an exclusive interview with
the Bayarian minister Of interior, DR..
Franz Schweyer, the reporter casual
ly mentioned Poincare'S namo,
wlnereupon the usually very digni-s
fled minister completely lost his
temper. Pounding the table with his
fist, he cried:
"That scoundrel-do you under
stand me?--that scOundrel Poincare
has the effrontery to declare in the
French chamber that France Is OBJ
serving an absolutely neutral attt-
tude toward separatisn In the oc-
cupied territories. All the world
knows that France is actively sup
porting separation in every way she
can. But, believe me, the day viii
come when she will suffer for 1t.
In ten or twenty years we shall sec
who really lost the warr'
Having calmed himself, DIR.
Schweyer apologiZed for having lost
his temper, though adding: "But
what I have said to you just now
goes. Only I am sorry to get so
excited; but no true German can
talk about France without getting
furious"
LAments Civil War.
The talk then turned to the va
rious illegal armed organizations in
the Reich, and especially in Bavaria.
The minister of the interior said:
''No nation that has been trampled
into the dust as we have can re-
cover its strength and greatness
through civil war. ] am an oppo-
nent of the whole idea of secret
combat organizations, for I trust
none Of them. AS you know, once
threatened to quit the cabinet be-
cause the other members of the gov
ernment did not take the same view
in this matter. The great trouble
with all these organizations Is that
they cannot keep from meddling In
party politics. The former citizens
defense leagues had the right idea:
they did not care about the political
convictions of their individual mem
bers, and they included even Social
Democrats. Today the system OF the
armed groups-especially in Bavaria
lis a vicious one, because they stifAe
personal liberty. We have begun to
disarm them.
Defends Hitler.
Hitler made many mistakes, but
he was right in some respects, as,
for instance, in his struggle against
the influence of the Socialists in the
Berlin government. However, in
stead of weakening Berlin and
strengthing Bavaria, his aim is to,
strengthen Berlin at the expense Of
the Federal states. He Is a central
ist.' His movement is entirely black
white-red; there isn't even dash OF
white.blue Cthe Bavarian colors) in it.
"Yet Germany, after all, is not fit
to be one great uniform state. It Is
far too big for that, and It consists
of too many heterogeneous parts"
DIR. Schweyer added that he cate
gOrically condemned Hitler's almost
insensate hatred Of Jews. Then,
arising and shaking his head grave
ly, the minister Of the interior con-
cluded:
"The center Of all danger is
Ludendorff. I wish he would leave
Munich--the sooner the better, and
not only Munich bat Bavaria. Let
him go back to Prussia, where he
belongs. will not say that he
violates the hospitality he enjoys
here, because do not wish to enter
into a controversy on that score.
But the fact is that he came to
Munich because he wanted to get
away from the hostile atmosphere
which he felt surrounding him
throughout northern Germany. 1t is
deplorable that man Of his indubita-
BILE ability should have evidenced
such astounding lack of judgment
and common sense as to join Hitler
in his insane adventure"