The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1924-03-15
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the time that 1t was a violation Of
the law to transport the pictures
outside Of New Jersey" Later, he
eaid, he was informed about the
law.
isn't it a fact you first had an
agreement with Mr.. Rickrd only to
display the pictures in New Jersey?''
TAT the time the pictures were
taken. understood the pictures
could only be displayed in New
Jersey"
"Did you ever talk to Rickard
later about showing the pictures
outside New Jersey?"
Eyes"
Jess Smith Mentioned.
what did he say?"
He said man came to see him
and said he had a plan to show the
pictures in other States"
ibid Richard tell who saw him2"
Eyes, Jap Mumma."
did you make an arrangement
with Rickard?"
Yes. 1t was with Muma Ike
Martin and Win Orr" Quinby re.
piled.
did you enter in an agreement
with them?"
Eyes. they were to cooperate in
showing the pictures all over the
country"
Quinby could not produce the con-
tract, saying that ut was entered
into three years ago."
ibid you pay out money under
the agreement"
EYES," I paid in checks"
Arranged Distribution Plan.
He said he, Jack Kearns and
Rickard owned the pictures and that
the contract for showing the pic
lures over the country was signed
by all three.
Ibid Kearns say the matter had
been arranged in Washington so
you wouldn't be molested?"
He told me a plan was submitted
to him whereby the pictures could
be sold all over the United States -
This plan was submitted to
him, he said. by Jap Muma and
VIII Orr"
That's what Richard said"
''Who did Orr representa-"
Himself"
Twas Jess Smiths name men.
Eioned?"
Eyes, Orr mentioned Smith
WHO did you think Smith WASP"
"A close friend Of Daugherty."
SNOW didn't Orr represent Smith?'
II don't know definitely"
ibid Smith have anything to do
With the plan?"
mot that I know off,
''How did Smiths name come
Np?' Senator Wheeler asked.
"Oh, it was brought up by Orr
- speaking Of friend"
Expected No Difficulties
IT want to know that" Senator
Zones Rep) Of Washington inter.
posed, "how did it happen that
Smiths name was mentioned?"
II don't recall" the witness re.
piled. my understanding was that
the pictures could be shown with.
out any legal difficulties"
You were given to understand
chat it had been arranged with the
Department Of Justice in Washing.
ton to show these pictures all over
the country without fear of prosecu.
tion?"
~ presume So" said Quinby. "I
was told to go head by these three
1ellows-Orr, Muma and Ike Mar.
tin"
Quinby insisted he had agreed
Just to sell the pictures, not to
transport them"
Did you know Ralph Navarro,
an agent of the Department Of Jus.
YES. he made life interesting for
me-" Ava
Nov, what was the arrangement
with reference to the pictures be.
ing shown in other States?"
Suggested Law Firms.
'Mr. ORION, as attorney for Orr.
Martin and Muma, suggested the
name OF a law firm in different
cities, so we could go ahead" the
ton.
80 Mr.. Urion gave you the name
OF lawyer in each State where
you nad a prospective buyer?"
Yes, that's it."
Then he would give you the
name Of some buyer in the State
where you sold the picture. and
them 1t was understood the picture
would first be shown before the
veterans Bureau and then they
would be taken before a Federal
judge and fined, and then they
could show the picture at liberty?"
Wheeler asked.
That wasn't the understandings.
NO. Our buyer was to 20 to the
law firm mentioned by Urion and
make arrangements to exhibit the
picture. Il don't know what the
arrangements WERE"
Who paid the lawyer in each
Etate?'
THE buyer of the picture
WHO paid your"
1.-THE buyer"
Experience With Veterans.
Didn't you tell me last night the
picture would be shown before some
veterans organization and then be
taken into court?"
I told you my experience in New
York State"
Tell US your experience"
Il showed the picture to a vet.
Grams hospital in Staten Island"
You showed the picture there so
you could get off easier?"
Il didn't expect any trouble"
Then you were arrested in New
York city along with Tex Rickard,
and each Of you fined $1,O00?"
Eyes, SIR"
Didn't the district attorney there
tell you to wait "A couple of weeks
before showing the picture again
until public sentiment subsided?"
Says Hayward Heard Him.
HE said to wait If we were 60.
ing to show the pictures"
did Hayward tell you that?"