The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1924-08-05
BOY SLAIERs
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1srstanding'' that prevailed among
the alienists IN this case.
DR.. Healy said he was employed
BY Walter Bachtach, one Of the
defense lawyers, and that the un-
derstanding prevailed that aii exam
1Eation was to be made Of Leo
pold and Loeb ID prerisely the saE.ae
way that Dr.. Healy would examine
any other mental patient, what
ever his station in life.
There was further UNDERSTANDING.
Healy said, there would be srlo
exorbitant fees, paid n this case
such a. have characterized in
notorious way other famous Grim
inal cases.
Gets Usual Fee.
Doctor Healy said he was being
paid $3.50 D day, the regular per
diem rate for alienists' services.
Doctor Healy said he suggested
to defense counsel that only alien
lists Of highest caliber be employed
and that an effort be made to get
= joint report, in which all the
alienists would be able to agree.
With this, barrow turned the
Doctor over to Grove for cross
examination.
Grove plunged immediately into
the Childish compact between Leo
pold and Loeb, on which the
j alienist laid such stress yesterday in
describing their strange and close
association. Doctor Healy described
II ~ "a very childish compact" but
, Grove denounced II az ''perversion. !"
BAchrach objected to the question
Ing along the line on the ground
that no good purpose would be
served BY giving such stuff to the
public
Calls Pact ''Perversion.p
'sWhat he calls childish compact
! call perversion," declared Grove.
Judge Caverly INTERVIEWED and
gaid that any testimony along this
line would BE- taken privately, so
the lawyers clustered about the
witness and Grove got his Ques-
tons and Doctor Healy's answers
INTO the record soto voce, and with
out spectators being able 20 hear.
When the private seance was
concluded, Grove launched into an
attack on Doctor Healy's methods
OF proceeding to determine the
mental condition Of the two de-
PENDANTS.
did you question these defend.
ants about the details OF this
crimeT barked Grove.
Doctor Healy replied that he
had not questioned the youths In
detail about the crime itself be.
cause he had been familiar with
jt. leading Grove to sarcastic ro-
marks about "hear-say evidence"
4 Insists On Notes.
did either Of them tell you in
whose mind the plan originated"
! II can't say without referring
! 70 my notes."
did either Of Them ten you who
! actually coTnmitEed the Inurder?"
~ can't say without my notes. !"
well, look at your notes"
/ 1T win take me half an hour, /"
j objected Healy.
II don't care how long Il takes
you," said Grove, ''g0 through
your notes."
30 insistent was Grove on this
point that Judge Caverly announced
= short recess to enable the alien.
, Int to comply.
Grove also waxed sarcastic at tho
financial agreement among the
alienists. He ironically INQUIRED
whether Doctor f7ealy would not
take more than $3.50 4 day for ilis
services. and the alienist replied,
mot unless the others did,
Fails IN Search,
After an exhaustive search Of his
volumincus portfolio, Doctor I1eaiy
said he was unable to find whers
either defendant had told him from
whose mind the crime ernaTiated or
who actually killed the Franks boy.
1T would be a mitigating circurIa.
stance, wouldn't It, for one Of tha
defendants to determine those
barrow objected, but Judge Cav.
erly told the witness to reply IL ID
knew. Healy said he did not
DID you recelIfe any Instructions
20 May away from that feature ~
" crime IN yeur examination az
Laen and Leopoid?"
mo"
Grove put Hypothetical question
to the alienist.
IL you found that q crime Of thia
had been committed by 4 voting
IN OF excellent habits, good morals,
GOOD roligioNs views, etc., wouidn't
\. Y - $3.50 =