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The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13
COMPLETE UNIT TO
COST Sgi.to7.5 500.

Mr. uhdrn estimates lts cost. with
that OF extending tho railroad 10
Ruby, at is.t07 400. making. with
tho 81 .oooo0 already spent and
tho additional 81. 600. 600 for tic PRO
posed Gorge creek dam. q total Of
istt0Ttoo. which will have been
spent before tho Gorge creek plant
will operate at full efficiency.
Tho city OF Seattle has been com.
miited TO this program on the aols
authority OF an ordinance providing
Tor a $1,000 horsepower plant 20
cost Ss.5eooOo.
Right here r. where l center my
criticism o, tho manner IN which
tho skaElt project has been
handled II would have been one
thing " our technical advisers.
when The project was started. had
told tho people % Seattle frankly
that they were iuauguntlnE a pro
gram which could find no logical
stopping point until approximately
f25 100000 bad been spent. The
people could thss have decided. in.
diligently and with faii under.
s,acxilnE OF what they were dolnE.
whether or no, they wanted A. this
period In their elty's growth 70
launch upon 70 ambitious an YIN.
dertaklnR. And their repre.
nentatlves IN tho city council could
have acted accordingly.
But u was an entirely different
thing 20 lead them into venture
q such magnitude 10 The belief that
they would have complete 10000.
horsepower plant for 1900. o0o.
In this connection ought 10 cay
that ~ the conference In the may.
ofs office last Monday. AFR Ross
stated that both 10 and Mr Dimock
t,tfrs ~, fhs Laard Of ttutstff ,ts,rt =
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13

considered IN the
way the work has
been handled
As Indicated in
a former article,
tho first thing TO
be considered In
connection with "a
power project Is
tho stream flow j,
takes water 10 op'
ernte tho turbines,
and IN SIS tbs
water Is there the
most sklifuily do
signed and expena
lively equip y . 4
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13

In 1914 % accept the Grant Smith
4 Co. bla for a 80. ooo.hornepower
plant 10 cost t5.soe.ooo. notwith
standing Mayor Iianson's recon.
mendation that all bids be rejected
Continued In TomurrUw's STAR
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13
IIIDEN EXPECTS TO STORE
WATER IN OFFPEAK HOURS

But while tho Gorge creek dam VIII
not furnish seasonal storage. Mr
linden expects Il during tho low
water periods Go furnish daily nior
age. lie expects by allowing tho
water TO accumulate above u during
tho Ho.calod "off peak hours OF low
demand % have sufficient water 10
operate the plant at high efficiency
during the peak" hours OF high de-
mnnd. lie also expects Go supple.
ment tho Bkugit output with power
from tho Cedar Fails plant, which
usually has IA good supply OF water
during tho winter months when tho
skagit ia low. lilo also expects 20
draw power from tho Lake Union
steam plant when necessary.
When all IL raid. however. none
OF these cSpedlents. nor all of them
together. viii help very greatly 20
make mp tho wide discrepancy be
tween the rated capacity Of the Gorge
plant aud ita actual capacity during
tho long period OF low water In tho
skngit river.
Thf.t Mr Uhden VIII not b. con.
tent 60 rely upon them ~ certain.
What 10 desires Is 10 so on TO tho
sits az Ruby creek and build the
proposed storage dam there after
compilation Of tho Gorge creek dam,
have mentioned this Ruby creek
dam before n IL planned 20 be
$50 feet high higher than tho l.
c. Smith building viii i'm
pound body ~ water a. large as
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13
1890 III. T.. PLANT WILL
LACK SUFFICIENT WATER

II granted the necessary s.. 0oo. 600
TO construct the concrete dam AZ
Gorge creek and install a third unit
Of 1880 horsepower capacity. sir.
Uhdeu viii have constructed a plant
OF 1850 rated capacity. complete
N every detail. but lacking a sup.
ply Of water during several months
Of the each year sufficient TO pro.
duco more than half that amount
u current. and during periods vars.
Ing from one month 10 six months
lacking sufficient water 70 produce
more than one.fourth the rated ca.
pacity.
The concrete dam which Mr. Tn.
den desires 70 build at Gorge creek.
Il must be undorstood. win not be a
storage dam in tho sense that the
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13

proposed dam al Ruby creek wlll be-
IL win not. and 10 not intended TO-
store tho floods for uso during mo
psrlods OF low water which VIII be
tho function OF tho Ruby dam
Tho Gorge creek dam IL Intended
primarily only 60 furnish the pres
auro or head" necessary 20 operate
tho turbines aud generators IN tho
GORGE creek plant NJ their fun rated
Ga naeity of 1880 horsepower each
without this dam they viii not pro
dueo more than 10000 horsepower
each.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13
John McAffey Dies

Jonathan McAfccy. IS. a retired
mining man. died Tuesday at his
home. hi goth ave. n. following n
short illness. lie IL survived by
widow. Mrs. Dolly McAffey. and
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13
BY PHIL TINDALL
Chairman Utilitk,s Commllteo OF the
City Council

I Er US consider the sknglt project
IL 10 date and sec whether the uity's
needs aud financial condition was
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13

IINDAIsII poWor pIAhI f'pFN-
sents so much money thrown away.
This fact was given duo eonsidep'
ton when the matter % extending
the city light plant was first discuss,
ed and before attention was centercd
on tho SkaElt
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13

There are many vacant homes IN
tonlghts want ad columns Are
you looking for onc7
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13
DOCTOR USED VEGETABLE SYRUP
INSTEAD Of HARSH DRUGS
Gires Quick Relief


Get quick relief Many here have
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using the vegetable syrup prescribed
by Dr. Thachsr. now known &c DR..
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Its corrective and hsalth-building
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and tone tho lazy liver. 10 increase
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soothe and tone tho oyortaxsd
nerves. to throw or stuffy colds. to
relieve constipation. nourish and
build up your system and send pur-
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Trial Guarantee
Try 81 Just a pleasant spoonful
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The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13

three sons. Funeral services viii be
held Al the Buttcrworth mortuary.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13
- Tho sog Of INo sl"EI'--N0. I'------,
Gorge Unit to Be $4,000
HIP, Being Made $4,000

benefit OF tho flow during uie seasons
Of higher water. A. the same time
tha dlsproportlon between stream
Flow and plant capacity should not be
too great
Mr.. uhden Is now installing. IN con.
fornnlty with tho plan prepared by
him after his appointment ua skuglt
engineer, two units OF $500 rated
horsepower each, and he IL providing
emplaccmenta for and = penatook to
supply third unit OF the Same ca.
pacity. Tho tunnel. which Is APP
preaching completion. Is designed 20
supply sufficient water for all three
units. Tho total rated capacity.
therefore. OF tho machinery In the
Gorge creek plant when tho third
unit Is IN place viii be three times
1880 horsepower, or iis,b0o horse
power.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13
10000 II. 4. PLANT AT
GORGE IL MISNOMsW

Tih GORGE CREEK PLANT Is
COMMONLY spoKisN or AS A
80 600 HORSEPOWER PLANT
THIS IS A MlsNoMER. THE
PLANT is IN ALL RESPECTS A
ti2.5o0 HORSEPOWER PLANT
EXCEPT THAT iT ~ NOT YET
COMPLETE. ALL THAT TT LACKS
IL THE REQUIRED HEAD. on
PRESSURE or WATER. THE
NECESSARY STREAM FLOW.
AND THE MACHINERY FOR THE
THIRD UNIT.
II Il 90 supply tho necessary
head" bY means Of a concrete dam
at Gorge creek and TO install tho
third unit OF machinery that MI
uhden. as before mentioned. has
asked thu city council 10 issue an
additional 5000. 900 In bonds. bring
INK the total cost Of the Gorge plant
10 5000 900.
hut as has been before stated. tho
5000 second feet Of water necessary
20 operate this plant falls each year
10 1000 second feet for periods rang
ing from one month 20 ak months.
and TO 1000 second feet or lower for
varying periods. having remained In
Tho nsiEhborhood Of 200 second feet
for an almost continuous period Of
six months in 1915 and 1911
In tho Uhden and Hcnnoy report.
mention was made OF this stream
flow fluctuatlon when those engi,
neors said. The power which can
DO delivered in Seattle from the
above installation (which included a
concrete dam with average river
flow viii vary turnout the year from
$4,000 10 5000 horsepower. helne
greatest In summer and smallest 10
winter"
Mr. Uhden. speaking before seat
lie audiences. has several times raid
that during extreme low water the
( plant now being constructed with
timber crib damn would produce b.
tween 1900 and 1900 horsepower
and that with concrete dam aubsli
tuted for tho timber dam /; would
produce between 5000 and so.00g
Horsepower al extreme low water.
These statements mean that W
are constructing az Corgo creek d
plant with a rated capacity of ii2,
500 Horsepower. set with n present
capacity during extreme low watcl
Of between 1900 and 1900 horse
power only. and that when the IN
creased pressure or head ban beer
supplied by means Of concrete dan
az Gorge creek. bringing tho tola
cor; 10 $4,000. 900. tho capacity Al
extreme low water will BE- between
Is 900 and 30 900 horsepower only.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1924-02-13
Sure Way to Get Rid Of Dandruff

mere IS ono sure way tnat never
fails to remove dandruif completely
and that is to dissolve it. Then you
destroy il entirely. To do this, just
get about four ounces OF plain, or
binary liquid aryon; apply it at
night when retiring; use enough TO
moisten the scalp and rub il in
gently with the finger tips. BY
morning. most, il not all, OF your
dandruff will be gone, and two or
three more applications will COM
pletely dissolve and entirely destroy
every single sign and trace OF il,
no matter how much dandruff you
may have.
You will find, too, that all itching
and digging OF the scalp will stop
instantly, and your hair will be
lustrous, glossy, silky and soft. and
Evening star., 1924-02-01

Hats in the brighter shades are the hats that
women are wearing for earliest Spring. If
the hat itself is not bright colored, then its
trimming of gay-hued flowers, ribbons
sparkling pins, fruits and charming facings of
contrasting color lend the brightness.
And these are the hats that give smart, new
Springtime air to ones Winter coat-and in
this collection you may be sure of finding
becoming hat for your type.
Millinery Section Third noor.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
MAN DIED NATURALLY,
DEPUTY MARTYR SAYS
Complete Autopsy Over Body Of
Edward J. Whalen, Who Sue.
cumbed Tuesday.

Death from natural causes was the
opinion rendered after an autopsy on
the body of Edward ]. Whalen of 607
9th street by Deputy Coroner. Herbert
]. Martyr at the District morgue yes
terday.
Whalen. died Tuesday night after a
prolonged Illness. About five hours
after he died Headquarters Detectives
Cullinane and O'Dea appeared at the
house. Mrs. Whalen said she had
massaged the body and brought back
life. ODea said that he could feel a
pulse beating and that the body was
warm when he Investigated. He called
Emergency Hospital, but when the am-
bulance responded the widow refused
to allow the physician to enter. ODea
said
Accordingly. Coroner hewitt yesterday
ordered an autopsy as a matter OF pro-
cedure. The result was disclosed this
afternoon. h.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
MAY RAISE B|GP POOL
TO RELIEVE BANKS
!; ~ st16s. - - !" WV
New York Bankers to Con-
fer With President and
Secretary Mellon.
Ty tho Associated Press

Ty the associs ted Press.
NEW YORK, February Eastern
bankers will take an active part in
7he conference next Monday between
president Coolidge and interests af-
fGcted b. the banking crisis in the
northwest, it is reported in financial
circles.
Fred I. Kent. vice president of the
Bankers Trust Company, probably
will go to Washington in company
with an official of J. T. Morgan & Co
Tor preliminary conference with
Secretary. Mellon. Although Thomas
w. Lamont of the Morgan firm re-
fused to say whether member of
the company would participate in the
meeting, il was understood gener-
ally that it would send a representa-
tive.
Other New York banking houses TO
participate in the discussion probably
will include the Chase National Bank
the National City Bank, the Guaranty
Trust Company and the First Ma
tional Bank.
The situation in the northwest has
been given thorough study by New
York bankers
While ii was not known what form
relief measures for northwestern
hanks would take, bankers here sug-
EeSted they might follow the plans
adopted in raising q $40.00O,000 pool
TO aid the live stock industry of the
west during the depression of several
years ago.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
GERMANS BUYING COTTON.
Expected to Take 500, ,OOO, 900
Worth in U. S. This Year.

NEW YORK, February 1.-Germany
will buy from the United States cot
ton to the value of 500. 100000 dur
ing the coming crop year. 1t is dis
closed by Wall Street cotton experts.
This figure was based upon reports
that Germany had purchased 100000
bales up to January 1, coupled with
information that representatives of
the cotton spinning industry in that
country had just established slo.-
ooo,oOo credit with American bank
crs. At least 100000 bales" in addi-
lion TO the 100000 already recorded
sold would be required by Germany
during the crop year, it is estimated.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
IMMUNITY is CRAMTON
PLEA IN $4,000 SUIT
Michigan Representative Says Re.
marks Resented by Wet Lead
er Made in House.

Representative Louis {. Cramton of
Michigan yesterday claimed congress
sional immunity in answer to q suit for
$4,000 damages for alleged slander
recently filed against him In the Dis
trict Supreme Court by Francis c.
Harley. president of the National
Liberal Alliance and defeated candi-
date for Governor of Oregon.
Representative Cramton admitted
the statement charged by Harley, but
asserted they were made during the
course Of a speech on the floor at a
regular session Of the House OF Rep
resentatives of the SiXty-seventh Con-
gress, and, under the Constitution.
cannot be made the basis of a civil
action. He asked the dismissal of
Harley's suit. Attorneys Andrew
Wilson and II. Hilton Jackson appear
for the defendant.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
FORD'S SHOALS OFFER
UNDER POWER ACT
House Committee Amendment Also
Provides Lease Would Run
100 Years.

Henry Ford's offer for Muscle
Shoals would be placed under the
federal water power act, with the ex-
ception that the lease would run for
100 years instead OF SO under an
amendment made yesterday to the Nc
Ken2ie bill at an executive session of
the House military committee.
Following the adoption Of this
amendment. which was proposed by
Representative Wurzbach, republican,
Texas, a move was made by Repre-
sentative James, republican. Michi-
gan, to reconsider the amendment
when the committee reconvenes to-
morrow.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
SALES AND RETAIL TRADE.
Dun's Review Show Clothing Max
ers Quite Active.

NEW YORK. February Special
clearance sales have helped to stimu-
late retail trade and most merchants
report business quite active for this
period OF the year. according to X. G.
Dun's weekly trade review. Clothing
manufacturers are fairly well en-
gagged, with moderate volume of or
ders for spring delivery. Similar
are reported in the skirt
and dress industry. Trade in shirts
and shirt waists is reaonablX good,
with novelties quite active
Evening star., 1924-02-01
RAIL STOCK PRICE FIXED.

NEW YORK. February 1-Tenta-
tive sale of the International Great
Northern railway to the New Orleans,
Texas and Mexico Railway Company,
approved by bankers for both roads,
provides for the payment of $50 a
share for the $7,sOO,00O capital stock
Of the International. The offer also
includes guaranty of per cent an
nual interest to holders of the In
ternational Great Northern adjust
ment 6. per cent bonds. until 1928,
when they become cumulative.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
DIVIDENDS.
STOCK FOR employees.
February s.

BUFFALO, y. Y, February 1.--In-
auguration of an employees saving
and stock ownership plan by the
Bethlehem Steel Corporation was an
rounced last night by Eugene q.
Grace, president, speaking at the an
nual meeting of employees represent
atives at the Lackawana plant. The
corporation, he said would assist It's
employees to purchase its per cent
cumulative preferred stock on easy
payments.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
EXCHANGE SEAT, Ss5. 900.

NEW . EQRK. February 1.-The
stock exchange membership of John
Bell HUM has been sold to Edward
L. Cohen for $4,000. The seat of
Ernest r. Tiefenthal has been trans
ferreds to Henry r. Monroe for a
nominal considera ton. Louis Lee
Stanton and Reg Halliday have been
admitted to oS1nembershtp on the ,ex-
change. ..-. =
Evening star., 1924-02-01
WILL FIGHT RAIL PLAN.

NEW YORK, February 1.-Consum-
nation of plan for reorganization
OF the capital structure of the Kan
sas City Railway Company will be
opposed by committee of second
mortgage bondholders on the ground
that it is discriminatory. Eugene V.
X. Thayer. chairman of the commit
tee, announced in calling for deposit
of these bonds.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
Three Delicious Confections
From, tho CnnfIv Section - ::

>. From, the Candy Section @.<... :;
Nut-flled Dates, rolled in sugar, packed.
in tin boxes, SOC lb. 49, ~.
Extra-fancy Pulled Figs, Soc lb. packed
in wooden boxes. s; !; .:;~.
Fresh, Crisp Peanut Brittle. made with
butter and crisp nuts-35c lb.
Valentine Candies-Valentine Boxes.
Candy Section Fourth door.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
FIRMS EARNINGS JUMP.

CHICAGO, February IL Butler
Brothers reported yesterday that net
earnings on 1923 tota!cd s3.S37,511
compared with $2,715.6S4 for 1922.
The 1928 earnings we're equal TO S2.99
a share on no par stock as against
$3.50 in 1922
Evening star., 1924-02-01
NEW RECORD FOR OIL.

Production of petroleum in the
United States broke all records In
1928, incomplete figures indicating
an output of 735,00O.000 barrels, ac-
cording to geological survey sta
tfstics. This is an increase of 80 per
cent over 1922 and nearly 10000, 900
barrels more than the total world
in 1920.
Evening star., 1924-02-01
Spring Weight Combination Suit:
$50 and SITS

$50 and SITS
S1.50-low neck, sleeveless or bodice style combina
tions with ribbon shoulder straps: knee length.
Extra Sizes $1J5.
sI75-high neck. long sleeves, ankle length comb
natons-or Dutch neck, elbow sleeves and knee
ankle length. Extra sizes, s..
women's Knit Underwear Section Third floor
For Young Folk
Lighter Socks, $1.25 Pair
New, lightweight wool and cotton socks with turn
over cuff tops tan striped in green purple; sizes
7 to 81.
Part-Woo1 Combinations, $2.25
For wear now have high neck, long sleeves, knee
or ankle length; Dutch neck, elbow sleeves, knee
or ankle length.
chidren's Underwear Hosiery Section
Evening star., 1924-02-01
BIG GAIN IN EARNINGS.

CHICAGO. February Ill. W. Cos
sard Company has reported a surplus
Of Sl,26o,772 fer 1923 as against ST.
040.lSi for 1922. After paying pre-
ferred dividends. the company in 1928
earned net profits of S3S0,94S, equal
10 Si.23 a share on common stock as
against S1.09 in 1922
Evening star., 1924-02-01
WILL VOTE ON LIQUOR.

REGINA. Sask., February 1.-The
province of Saskatchewan will de
eide the liquor question by referen-
dunn, 1t was stated In the speech from
the throne at the opening of the
provincial assembly vest erday., The
Legislature will decide the date.
The Kusko times., 1924-06-14
Kills Physician and
 Packs Body in Trunk

Los Angeles. - Mrs. Margaret B. Willis, real estate dealer, formerly Mrs. Albert Schultz of Denver, told police here today, they said, that she had shot and killed Dr. Benjamin Baldwin, Los Angeles physician, for nerly of St. Louis, kept his body in 8 trunk ia her home for two days, and then hurled it over an embankment north of here
 Mrs. Willis, middle-aged woman, walked into the police station here and told of the killing voluntarily, it was announced
 After her confession, police sald, the woman asked for cup of coffee. Re-
The Kusko times., 1924-06-14

freshed, she led officers to spot on the state highway near San Fernando, 8 suburb, where it is said the doctors body was found half way down the en- bankment, partly protruding from a wardrobe trunk.
 The woman identified the corpse, ao- cording to detectives. with the remark, "Yes, that's him.''
The Kusko times., 1924-06-14
Some Facts About
 Bobbed Hair Craze

New York.-'iDon't bob your hair to make it grow faster. Bobbing the hair for esthetic reasons is,quite proper, providing vour relatives do not object, says Dr. Herman Goodman in aygeia.
 Cutting the hair injures it's growing qualities. Under general conditions hair grows one inch in six weeks, but not all grow the same length. On the crown and the back of the head the hair may grow from 40 to 50 inches and be not unusual, while on the sides 18 inches is the limit.
 Dr. Goodman makes another surpris- ing statement. The years when the hair grows most quickly is between B and 50.
 If you find hairs on your coat collar, do not get nervous. The hair is. con- tinually shedding, even in the most healthful persons. Only when they go faster than they come in is the time to get nervous. The thing to do then is not to consult barber or hair dresser, but go to reputable physician who, though bald himself, can tell Yo1 what to do to restore the hair to healthy condition.
The Kusko times., 1924-06-14

am the principal owner of block Iof :ground on Yankee creek, aoout seven nItss long, .extend- ing from No. l Below.Discoyery aownsso she. mouth of the creeka
 Pay has been located all along for distanee'of about three miles from the upper end, and pretty we'll prospected and cross-cut.
 The average depth of the ground lis from!seven to twentysfeet The top is all black muck. that can be movedifreey. No rock bigger than one g fiss.
 The width of the pay, for & distance of about three miles, is from loo to POO feet. Prosecuting work indicates that the ground wiia go from 15 cents to Sl per square foot Of bedrock. My belief is that1the Day will average 90 eentsiper foot
 have ditch OnIthe ground. three miles long together with water rights The ground is pretty well cleared. There is also drain, three miles long, with the water right. I also have a water right on Ready Bullion creek, from which water can oe brought to Yankee creek with ditch less than mile long 4,900 eet). which will give four sluiceheads of water, with pressure or fa of 12O feet, being 1900 feet to the work from the dtch.i
 After doing away with the muck. there qvill be
The Kusko times., 1924-06-14

"The late George Gould" said a New York architect, "had 8 stock of anecdotes appropriate to every oeca- sion.
 FOnce at dinner at Georgian Court we got to talking about rich young man who was being bled white by his so-called friends. This unlucky young man reminded Mr. Gould of the Jubilee Juggins. an Englishman who actually squandered 8 fortune of $3,000,000 in the year of Queen Victoria's jubilee.
 He said that the bleeding and sponging of which the Jubilee Juggins was the victim became so notorious in London that one evening. when the porter st & London club was asked if the Juggins was there, he replied with 8 sniff:
 "'No; the beagles and the vultures is 'ere. but the carcass hain't arrived yet.'''