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was next gone into. Grove asked
II Doctor Hubert had ever read
any of the youths papers on this
subject, and Hubert admitted he
had not.
Sharp Exchange.
The States attorney asked Doctor
Hubert why, if Leopold was the
subject of so many different dis
eases, he had not consulted medical
attention, Hubert retorted that the
history of Leopold showed he had
frequently been treated 'for measles.
scarlet fever, chicken pox" and
similar diseases.
What has, that to do with his
endocrine SYSTEM" ,.sked Grove.
Its all pathology" returned HUI
bert.
Grove switched over to Loeb. He
tried to get from the witness an adj
mission that Dicky Loeb was a
normal boy just as his brothers
were, but Hubert fell back on the
ground that he had never examined
Dicky's brothers and thus was not
qualified to express an opinion.
Dicky had always felt that he was
not popular with his brothers and
that he was mot wanted at home"
To this feeling he attributed some
of the boys queer ideas.
An Unusual Angle.
did he ever try to run away
from home?" asked Grove.
mo, and that is unusual" replied
Doctor Hubert. Most boys having
the feeling that Dicky did do try
to run away from home"
Grove and the witness engaged
in Wordy row about the doctor
constant consultation Of his notes
before making replies, and the State
attorneys insistence that questions
be answered Eyes" or mo" Judge
Caverly finally said the doctor was
entitled to consult his report, and
also to explain his answers.
us there any marked pathology
In Loeb?". asked Grove.
Eyes, indeed" replied Hubert,
and proceeded to read again his
report on the pathology of the
young defendant.
Judge Caverly finally stopped the
reading by observing that it WAS
useless to go over all that again as
the report was in evidence and had
been read many times. Grove
switched over to the kidnapping. =
when Loeb told you they figured
on kidnapping his younger brother,
Tommy, he was joking, wasn't he?"
asked Grove. 81.
Hard to Answer.
"That is difficult to answer" re-
piled Hubert. When he told me
about it there was some. facetious-
ness in his manner, but also con-
siderable sincerity" =
Thereupon, Grove read several
excerpts from Hulbert's report, say
ing Loeb jokingly proposed they
kidnap his younger brother, Tommy,
aged ten"
Much of Groves questioning was
designed to bring out discrepancies
between Doctor Hulbert's written
report and his verbal testimony on
the stand.
Did Loeb get the real kick out
of this crime that you doctors say
he did," asked Grove.
He was disappointed in the thrill
Or kick, he told me-"
Grove asked if Loeb showed any
emotion when he was telling the
alienists of the crime.
I'm not clear whether he did or
not" said Hubert. Doctor Bow
man and I talked of it. If he did,
st was very slight"
Grove then read from Hulbert's
report one excerpt which said that
during. the recital. 1.-The patient
choked up and wiped his nose with
his finger"
Grove brought out a disagreement
between the expert and the lay wit
nesses as to young Loeb's restless
ness and nervousness. A score of
defense witnesses last week. had
testified that Dicky was always
nervous and exceedingly restless.
Doctor Hubert said he had not
found him so. He said Loeb had
gone to sleep in the examining
room of the Jail while the alienists
were examining Leopold.
The trial has run three weeks
now. 1t will consume two more
weeks before Judge John r. Caver-
ly is called upon to decide whether
their punishment is to be the gal
lows or life imprisonment.
If Judge Caverly accepts the con-
illusions of the alienists, who have
had the two slayers. under observa-
ton for more than two months, that
Babe" and "Dicky" are mentally
diseased. and orders life imprison-
ment for them, it will end the cele-
brated case. The States attorneys,
fighting grimly. for the hanging YER,
dict, have no appeal.
Three Courses Open.
II Judge Caverly decides they, are
sane and responsible under the law,
and DEGREES death for them, the law.
yers and the medical scientists that
constitute the defense have three
courses open to them.
They can ask the supreme court
of Illinois for a review Of the case.
= They can ask the appointment of
a sanity commission to examine the
boys on the ground their minds
have turned the eerie corner into
insanity between the date Of sen.
tence and the date set for execu-
ton.
They can appeal to the governor
for executive clemency.
ANY or all OF these courses may
be resorted to should Judge Caverly
override the conclusions Of the de-
Tense alienists in the present trial
and decree death. But it is upon.
the second alternative-the sanity
commission - that the defense