Evening star., 1924-08-12


tude toward Loeb as usual in that she
regarded him as a child.
Il would not call that abnormal"
said DR.. Hubert, but she was in error
in her estimate of the boy. She was
abnormal in that she would not take
advice, and that her opinions are most
firmly held"
The witness. testifying as to patholo-
gy found in Loeb, said. that the skin
was that of an immature lad, that he
still had three baby teeth, that the
blood pressure was below normal, had
tremors of the facial muscles, definite
tremors of the tongue, a spasmodic
movement of one eye, heart somewhat
cubular in shape and thyroid not quite
palpable
Leopold was impulsive, wasn't
he?' asked Mr.. Grove. did he realize
it?"
Il expect not" was the response.
Few of US have a perspective on
ourselves"
The next question referred to Leo
pold having worked out many con-
sistent plans for the future" DR..
Hubert said that was all right, ex-
cept he wasn't certain as to Con
sistent," but admitted yes, you are
right" when Mr.. Grove pointed out
that expression in the doctors writ
ten report
why did Loeb want to put a rope
around the neck of the victim?'
asker Mr.. Grove.
Probably to equalize the guilt"
replied the witness.
DR.. Hubert said he thought Loeb
was Joking" when he said he and
Leopold had considered Kidnapping
Loeb's brother, Tommy.
The witness said he believed Loeb's
statement that he was very fond Of
Tommy.
Showed Little Emotion
Did Loeb show any emotion while
he was relating the story Of the crime
to you?' asked Mr. Grove.
That is a question" replied DR.. Hull
bert. 1T was not clear whether he
showed emotion. He seemed to wipe his
nose with his finger, and it might have
been he was wiping away nasal tear
If it was emotion it was surprisingly
slight"
The witnessc said Loeb was not very
nervous, and that he went to sleep
while Leopold was being examined.
Didn't Loeb tell you it hurt him to
talk to Mrs. Franks mother of the muir
dered boy, and that it made him sad ?'
asked Mr.. Grove.
Il don't know whether he said sad or
uncomfortable, replied DR.. Hubert. 81
know he did not want to see her.
He said he did not want to see any
one in pain" pursued the States attor-
ney. rs not that emotion?'
Very slight" was the reply.
There is no definite emotion about
it, any more than had he said: Il am
very sorry that l dropped that fork"
Or. Hubert admitted he did not
think very much of Loeb's judgment
He had more opportunities than
most boys in Chicago. yet doomed
himself to destruction" he said.
Then his judgment in thinking ne
was unwelcome at home was an
item"
But it is quite common among
boys of 9 to run away, isn't it?"
asked Mr.. Grove. Didn't you ever
run away"
NO" answered the doctor with
smile, but l helped my brother run
away"
AS errors in Judgment on Loeb's
part the doctor also enumerated his
attitude toward the governess, con-
temptation Of kidnapping his brother
or father, trying to compete with IS
and 10 year-old boys in drinking and
carousing when he was IA, and read
ing detective stories with avidity.
Reading of Novels.
Isn't it bad judgment for any one
30 drink asked the prosecutor:
Scientifically, yes answered the
doctor.
Mr.. Grove gained the admission
from the doctor that boys usually
start reading Mick Carter" graduate
to Conan Doyle, among the detective
rr;o n, f-t1
they graduate out of it all"
He said Gen. Grants spending his
spare time at West Point reading
Charles Levers novel was poor judg-
ment.
Other items of Loeb.s poor judg-
ment were mentioned as robbing his
fraternity house at Ann Arbor. Mich.
cheating friends at cards, choosing
his college courses ard following the
line of least resistance.
We asked him If the crime would
be repeated. and he said it would
not-that he intended settling down
and being a gentleman. possibly a
gentleman burglar" concluded the
doctor in his summary of Loeb's err
rors of judgment.
Leopold's mistakes of judgment
then were taken up.
Doctor. you haven't any regard
for Leopolds judgment, have you?"
asked Mr.. Grove
mo. but I'll qualify that" replied
the witness. Il have as regarding
academic matters"
He showed bad judgment in Sc
lecting acquaintances in life, Loeb,
for instance" said the witness.
'Ill agree with you there. What
else?" said the States attorney.
THE group Leopold ate with at
Ann Arbor, a self-satisfied group of
eight. and his religious life," stated
the doctor.
Did Ingersoll advance any original
thoughts or did he only echo Tom
Paine and Voltaire?" interrupted Mr..
Grove.
II cannot say scientifically" re-
sponded DR.. Hubert. Il was brought
up the son of a Congregationalist
and am prejudiced against
1ngersoh and Tom Paine. I said
regarded them as original thinkers,
and Leopold just as an echo"
Outstripping friends at school and
dropping, in stead of retaining. them
also was called poor judgment.
Eaxerness to Pose.
Since his arrest the avidity with
which Leopold poses for flashlights in
Jail also was called bad judgment, as
was his sneering attitude towards
psychiatry when preparations were
being made for a report on his case.
Mr.. Grove asked Judge Caverly for
a subpoena duces tecum for the other
X-ray pictures of Loeb and Leopold
which DR.. Hubert said were made
in triplicate, and the judge ruled it
would be issued. DR.. Hubert said that
the best of the pictures developed al
ready had been introduced as evidence.
The defense took DR.. Hubert on re-
direct examination and sought to
bring. ont that inflammation withheld