Perth Amboy evening news., 1924-08-09
No CRIMINAL!
FANTASIES
DOCTOR SAYS
In Leopold's Life but That
influenced Him to Do
What He Has
DR.. HULBURT TESTIFlES
Religious Life of Confessed
Slayer Is Also Brought
Out at Hearing
DR.. HULBURT TESTIFIES
cHrCAGo. Aug. Q (By The Assoc

Ct1ICAGO, Aug. (By Inc Assoc
ciated Press):-Dr. Fl. 8. Hulburt,
fourth of the alienists for the de-
tense, was on the witness stand to
conclude his direct testimony when
the hearing to determine puniah-
ment for Nathan +. Leopold, Jr.,
and Richard Loeb for kidnapping
and killing Robert Franks was res
sumed for the sixteenth day before
Judge John r. Caverly.
A half hour before court was to
open at 10 A. M. the courtroom waA
filled and line of would-be spec
tators wound downstairs from the
sixth floor and out along Austin ave.
nue. to Clark street, a block away
DIR. Hulburt picked up hls se
mony where he left on yeat9EqSZ
with his description ~ ~.
"king-sIave" phantasy. DIR. Hu1-
! burt said the phantasy was confin-
| ued until. the age of eighteen. Tho
phantasy setting the pattern OF his
life. Leopold's ambition coming to
be the perfect slave OF fhe perfect
king" Leopold such q person In
Loeb, said the witness. and wanted
to be Loeb's perfect slave in any
maner, even through kidnapping and
murder"
There was no criminalistic phan-
tasy in Leopolds life. but his phan-
tastes Influenced his very largely to
do what he has done. continued the
doctor.
The testimony veered to Leopolds
religious life, the witness saying that
because of his advanced intellectual
life Leopold was ready for confrma-
ton well before he was of age to
be, and when he reached the ags
he did not care to be confirmed.
Leopold once visited church IN
which there was a window display
ing the Madonna and Christ, said
DIR. Hubert. Leopold did not know
the figures but identified his mother
with the Madonna, and himself with
an older child in the picture, possibly
st. John the Baptist, said the doc
tor.
HE does not say I am Christi"
said the witness, but says I am tbs
superior person of the world" read
DIR. Hubert in his notes.
"He finally found fault with. God
because God makes mistakes, max.
ing great mistake when he took his
mother.
His mothers death made great
change in Leopold's life. He never
did adjust himself to the world after
she died.
He finally saw life with no god
no good, no right. y
The defense has only a few more
witnesses to examine before resting
its case. Foreman Leopold, brother
OF Nathan, and Ernest and Allan
Loeb, brothers of Richard, will be
called to the stand merely to con-
meet up the exhibits, according to
Clarence S. Darrow, veteran chief Of
defense counsel. Either DR.. James
Whitney Hall or DR.. William J.
Hickson will complete the list OF
psychiatrists, 1t was said.
Miss Susan Lurien, former
sweetheart of Leopold, will be sum-
moned by the prosecution ON rebut.
tai, Robert E. Grove, states attor-
ney said. 1t was to her that Leopold
Is alleged to have boasted in yelled
terms of the Franks killing several
days before he confessed.
Physiology, psychology and neu-
rology of the youthful slayers were
the themes of DR.. Hulburt's testi-
mony. His conclusions on Leopold
were scheduled for today's short
single session, in following up his
testimony for two hours yesterday
on Loeb. whom he pronounced
mentally diseased"
Certain prenatal influence, physi-
cal defects and unusual phantasies
were cited by the pathologist in sup
port of his theory. Loeb's dreams
concentrated on the planning of
crime and persisted too long in life,
while Leopold. picturing himself as
a slave protecting his king. sought
somebody to whom he could SUR
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