Evening star., 1924-08-02
LOEB MENTALLY SICK ON DAY
OF MURDER, DOCTOR TESTIFIES

int.iI..x
rs dementia praecox insanity" ask
ed Grove. No" replied the doctor. =,
What's moral insanity?" and
What's depravity?" brought state
ments from the examiner and witness
that each knew what they meant.
After much arguing back and forth
the doctor replied to the question re-
gardfng depravity with a long SEN
tence composed from the viewpoint of
the psychiatrist.
Defends His Position.
Mr.. Grove insinuated that the doc
tor had not questioned the mental
Of the crime, but. rather, had looked
into their coalition at the age of
five. This line Of questioning brought
on more fencing, the doctor defending
his position as9 against the procedure
Mr.. Grove suggested.
You were not interested sufficiently
to ask which of them committed the
MURDER" Mr.. Grove asked
No. 1 knew when 1 got through"
the witness replied.
The doctor said he had forgotten yes
terday to tell that Leopold, If
to write 10 of the worlds riddles
have them put into a safety box and
get in touch with scientists and at
tempt to solve these riddles by
spiritualism. but be did not believe
in those things.
Would Write Book.
He said there would be a couple
Of months before execution, and he
would write book of his philosophy
for the world, feeling he was sum
ciently unique to make such a book
worth while: that there was a great
opportunity to give his philosophy to
the world said the doctor.
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went to his end consistently. and not
as some people expected" continued
the witness.
Il did not mention also a number
or other delinQueneies in which the
boys were engaged" said the witness
by Mr.. Grove or DR.. White
DR.: White said Nathan had not lied
to him at all. being frank" all the
way through. He said he did not
think 1t strange Babe had lied to
every other person"
Other Criminal Aspects.
They smashed windshields with
Dr. White. when Mr.. Grove got back
to the other cfiminalistic angles.
They set fires to buildings, acting
IN .conJunction,' the witness contin-
ued. naming three fires they said
they had set.
answer as to whether Loeb, who ap-
peared normal to university teachers,
could have avoided the crime.
The doctor would say only that
Dickie's completes impaired the
power to resist very materially"
witness. Judge caverIy interfered,
saving to the prosecutor:
No man can answer completely
through your Interruptions"
Robbing Of fraternity houses in
Ann Arbor. Mich. in November, 1925
was mentioned by the doctor as ana. ana.
iystic acts Of the boys. Breaking into
the wine cellar of house with in
different results" was another.
There was much arguing between
the prosecutor and witness as to
what confirmation the doctor had OF
statements the boys had made to him
the doctor admitting he had only the
word Of the boys,
The doctor said that theft by the
ooys OF a typewriter in preparation
caution or the start Of a mental dis
case. The doctor and Mr.. Grove 20,
| into another argument regarding the
Doctors notes and original report
which the prosecutor limited. held the
No Question Of Inxaafty.
| There is no question of insanity
mere, the boys are sane" interrupted
the court.
Il am forced to hear this evidence
| TO see II there is any mitigation in
| yoived. There is no question of legal
| insanity"
| Mr. Grove insisted that the original
report be produced. arguing that he
wanted to attack the credibility OF
| the witness.
| If this witness has been willing to
swear one thing for $3.50 q day. bu,
| since had changed his opinion and Is
willing to testify to another thing
seriously impaired his credibility tc
your honor" said Mr.. Grove.
The defense objected strenuously to
that trend and insisted the report be
ter Baehrach had it.
| Finally the prosecutor said: 'Tf the
| witness Is not willing to produce tina,
| report, / will let the matter rest right
| there"
Placed ON GOyernexx.
Mr.. Grove mentioned the governess
| of Loeb's childhood. DIR. White said
| Loeb was pretty much handed over
| to the governess, that the governess
very largely stepped into the mothers
| shoes.
"pick told me he thought his family
had more or less neglected him, but
! that he thought their intention was
|
ing that he did not remember what
Loeb had said of his mother.
| Mr.. Grove said Loeb had two Older
and one younger brothers, and the
| doctor replied that nothing had been
SAID OF tSees a1aSs ee
from Others" said the witness and
! there was nothing unusual In Lpeb's
feeling Of no friends and being alone
with .psrieds Of depression and
Mr. Grove asked il the fact Loet
was popular with the servants, his
! friends and number pf girls would
| not affect the witness idea of Loeb
| unusual for such types to feel lonely
The witness admitted he had read
''Huckleberry Finn" and "Tom Sawyer
| many years ago. and his recoilections
were dim, when Mr.. Grove sought te
show their day dreams were the same
| Is Loebs and Leopold's. phantasies.
| "Boys mentioned in the book were
literary fiction and should not be con-
sidered at ALL" the doctor said.
The State finished its cross-exami-
| nation at fl:SS an
Judge Caveriy suggested to Mr.
| Grove that IL there was any ques.
| ton the State wanted to ask about
| matters that should not be brough,
out ope My because of the presence o.
ladies. the attorneys. witness and
bers.
| It was agreed that sufficient evidence
along that line had already beer
quietly made into the record.
Mr.. Bachrach took up the examina.
tion. Judge Cayerly. stopping hin
| short whom he sought to ask about
the Gonzales" case mentioned yes.
terday by Mr.. Grove. The court sale
he was not interested in the Gonsale'
csse.,
There vas NO further questienine o.
lDr. White and Judge 0averly I'D
journed court until Monday morning