Evening star., 1924-08-09
GLAND DISORDERS ACTUATED
LEOPOLD, EXPERT TESTIFIES

crime. said the doctor in response to
| a question by Bachrach.
The $4,000 ransom demanded also
'Frve thousand dollars Is five thou.
sand dollars, and we could use 1t,
the doctor said Leopold remarked.
Leopold planned a trip abroad and
did what he could to defer the mur.
der, but was always willing to carry
out the wishes OF his king" said
DR.. Hubert, Leopold also thinking
the trip would serve to get him away
from Loeb, whose influence on him
was morbid.
AS to his conclusions regarding
Leopold, DR.. Hubert said:
Il was first impressed with his in
tellectual development, that OF man
of 80 years Of age. He was ex-
tremely precocious. then was
struck with the disparity between
hts intellectual life ana emotional
life. was greatly impressed with
the vividness and duration OF his
phantasies and reveries and the erect
OF them on his personality.
His judgment was more of child.
nice, obedient. child. which does
what he is directed to do. He has
many superstitions that he has not
outgrown."
Grove Tells Of Plans.
During a Commute recess states
Attorney Grove Indicated the state
would call a dozen lay witnesses frst
and then offer the testimony OF -FOUR
mental experts in rebuttal.
1t WIS understood the defense in
tended to complete Its plea for Jniti.
cation Of punishment Monday, and
the State indicated 1t would be
through by Thursday, with argument
by counsel to require an unknown
length of time, indicating the hearing
possibly might be concluded by the
end of next week.
The psychiatris cause for the
Franks crime Is not to be found in
of their friendship" said DR.. Hubert.
in anaIyzing the causes Of the crime.
Their friendship was not always
pleasure to either. Sometimes they
were repulsive to ea.,1 other. Their
friendship was not so much a desire
as a need, they being what they were.
Loeb, for example. did not crave
the companionship of Leopold, nor
did he respect him. Leopold did not
need Loeb in his life. but needed some
one for his king -slave existence"
DR.. Hubert then reverted to medi-
cal terminology as he described the
pathological conditions OF the two
boys.
Returned to technicalities after an
interval OF lay witnesses. the defense
prepared to finish today the testi-
mony' OF DR.. Hubert before question
Ing relatives of Leopold and Loeb.
Girl to Take stand.
Miss Suzanne Lurie, former sweet
heart of Leopold, will be summoned
by the prosecution on rebuttal, Rob
ert L. Grove, States attorney, said.
1t was to her that Leopold Is alleged
to have boasted in veiled terms Of the
Franks killing several days before he
confessed.
Physiology. psychology and neu-
rology of the youthful slAyers were
the themes Of DR.. Hulberts tesu,
mony. His conclusions on Leopold
were scheduled for today's short ses-
sion, in following up his testimony
for two hours yesterday on Loeb
whom he pronou1ced mentally dis
eased."
Certain prenatal influences. physi-
cal defects and unusual phantasies
were cited by the pathologist In sup
port of his the ory. Loeb's dreams
concentrated on the planning OF crime
and persisted too long in life. while
Leopold, picturing himself as a slave
protecting his king, sought somebody
to whom he could surrender himself.
DR.. Hulburt said. Once the youths
played a game of cards to determine
which should Kill himself first, he
stated.
The prosecution offered but little
cross-examination of the psychia-
trist although previously it has d.
rected vigorous attacks against the
expert testimony.