The Indianapolis times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1922-1965, 1924-03-27

the conversation, I think, was about
he fair board money, but all of it
was about the Governors affairs.
There were present at the meet
ing Senator James E. Watson. CLYDE
A. Walb, Republican State chairman;
/ former Governor James P. Goodrich.
Ewing Emison, member of the State
committee from the Second district.
and myself After this talk CONVEX
sation about the fair board money
opened this way:
Goodrich said. Governor, I don't
think you appreciate the seriousness
of your situation You have violated
every law on the statute books Nc
Cray said, DO you refer to the fair
board money! Goodrich said, Yes,
among other things McCray said,
I had a right to borrow that money.
Besides, it has been paid back
Il don't pretend to give the exact
words, but l think that is the sub.
stance of the conversation"
Was that all the conversation7"
Nichols asked
Someone remarked" Healing an
swered, that the fact It was paid
back won't excuse it. or something
like that. I think Goodrich said, No.
Couch former custodian of the State
house, serving a term at Michigan
City for embezzlement of public funds
paid back his money and he is in the
penitentiary'."
Reference Stricken Out
Michael A. Ryan. counsel for the
defense, moved TO strike out the ref
erence to Couch. Nichols asked leave
to ask another question before the
court ruled.
Now, Mr.. Healing, what did the
defendant say in response to that, II
anything" he asked.
That was the last thing said.
don't think anybody said anything
more
The court at this point ordered the
reference to Couch stricken from ths
record.
DO you recall any further con-
versation about the fair board" Mich
OILS asked
II don't" the witness said. That
was CLOSE 10 l0S emu OF Ln6 COnVSTe
sation that was held in that room that
afternoon"
For the purpose of refreshing
your memory, will ask you If there
was anything said with reference to
a disgrace to the State of Indianaf"
Goodrich said: No, you haven.
any right TO borrow that money
think that wal MS far as it went"
Left Nothing Undone"
Did Goodrich say: You have done
everything you could do and left un-
done nothing you could leave undone
to disgrace the State OF Indiana'?''
Since you have refreshed my REQ
objection, that statement about hay
ing disgraced the State was made
during the afternoon conversation, but
1 don't know whether 1t was about
the board of agriculture money or
not"
The defense objected to this state
ment and 1t was stricken from the
record.
c. NJ. Brockway, assistant auditor
of the Indiana National Bank, was
put on the stand to identity an ex-
hibit the nature Of which was not re-
vealed. He was excused almost i'm
mediately after he took the stand and
told he would be called later.
Indictments Attacked
In his opening statement for the
defense James w. Noel attacked the
indictment against McCray as faulty
He declared the embezzlement charges
did not follow the form Of the statute
and that one of the counts Of larceny
was improperly drawn.
He contended that all the money
was borrowed by the Governor, that
he gave security for it and that 1t
was paid back.
Clarence w. Nichols, in his opening
statement for the State, went into de-
tail concerning the transactions of
the Governor with the agriculture
board. declaring the money was
turned over to the. Governor to be de-
posted In the Discount and Deposit
State Bank of Kentland and that the
Governor had diverted Il to his own
use.