The Indianapolis times., 1924-04-01

IM rises from the sea in the
E9 Winter Garden show, limo
cent Eyes" says her husband.
Thomas Wright, was so jealous Of
with him. and that you objected to
calling the Governor and refused to
stay when he Gamer"
The witness answered, No"
do you remember, at that meet
ing, worrying about what to say be-
fore the grand jury?"
Il don't recall that
did Moberly Harry NJ. Moberly,
president Of the board at that time)
attend the meeting?"
He came in later
Did Moberly say to you: Newt,
you know YOU let the Governor have
this money, you got his notes and Sc
curity 1t IS all paid back. That's all
there is to it. Why don't you tell
that?'
Il don't recall that"
Conversations Are Denied
AT Montgomery office in the State
Life Bldg. did you say: I wanted the
checks made to the Discount and De-
post Bank because I didn't want it to
be known that these loans were made
to the Governor"
mo"
About Aug. %. when Montgomery
and Grant were in your office, did
Grant say to you: Newt. call up
the Discount and Deposit Bank about
that certificate Of deposlt?' And did
you answer: AN right, but l have to
go out now And did you put on
your hat and go away and stay all
day?"
Il don't recall that"
"The next day. did Montgomery say
to YOU: Did you get word from the
Discount and Deposit Bank?' And did
you answer: They don't know any
thing about the $4,000; it's got me
worried p
The conversation did not occur"
Answers in Negative
"On the occasion that Grant and
you went 20 the Governors office. did
the Governor say: What's on your
mind? And did Grant answer. I am
worried about the loan made to you
by the board? And did Governor Nc
Cray say: There's nothing to worry
about II wu all be paid in a short
time. II YOU want more collateral. /
have it at home and will bring 1t
down Tomorrow? And did you say:
Governor, l ought to have something
for the first two checks amounting to
$4,000? AID did the Governor say:
I will attend to all of that in the
morning."
Il don't recall that"
Brown was kept busy denying that
he had made certain statements to
William NJ Jones. Thomas Grant or
George N Montgomery, members Of
tn board at the time Of the transac-
ton.
Brown in Denial
He denied:
That when he finally received a
certificate of deposit for s155,00
covering the amount of money turned
over TO the Governor, he rushed into
Grants office and said This is my
liberty; I was afraid I would have
1t
a while
That he told Grant. Montgomery
and Jones, shortly before the Marion
County grand jury took UP investiga-
tion of McCray's financial affairs, that
Jim Goodrich would see TO it that l
am not indicted"
That he .old Grant. ''I have made
a loan to the Governor of s30,999.
and he has given me his check post
dated Monday or a week from Mon
day." and that Grant replied: THAT
may be all right. Newt, but L would
not have done it"
That Jones had said to him: Newt,
you are flirting with the peniten-
tiary."
Details Vary
Under incessant and relentless ques'
tioning Of Ryan, Brown became badly
shaken Monday, and time after time
his story Of the financial transac-
tions between the Governor and the
board Of agriculture was at variance
with his testimony on direct exam
ination. At times he seemed hopeless
ly confused and was unable to re-
member dates or relate definite de-
tails.
Through it all. however. he stuck
substantially to Gne point-that the
boards money turned over to the Gov
ernor in June and July, 1923, was for
deposit in the State Discount and De.
posit Bank of Kentland, of which the
Governor was president at the time.
was for use of the bank and not a
personal loan to the Governor.
Ryan grilled the witness mercilessly
as to alleged conversations with Jones,
Grant and Montgomery, in which lie
was supposed to. have said that he
had loaned the money to the Governor
as personal loans without authority of
the hoaEdn