The Washington times., 1924-04-17
DEFENSE FAILS
To QUESTION
THAW
Spring Surprise When They
Refuse Right to Quiz
Him on Stand.

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version entered into any OF Thawts
actions In the past. The doctor
said he had.
do you think q man guilty Of
such practices would admit it,"
asked Dickson.
"Well. he might"
do you think q man guilty OF
beating a boy In q hotel room would
be able to explain why he did IT."
HE might; I'm not certain"
"WelI, DOCTOR" asked Mr.. Dick.
son, what will be your own ex.
PLANTATION Of such an act?"
II couldn't explain"
You can't explain it?''
tout OF the Ordinary"
mo. I can't. 1t is out OF the
ordinary"
"But don't you think It shows a
trace of insanity?''
"I wouldn't say that"
Mr.. Dickson then asked the doctor
about mental detectives. The doc.
tor, giving his own definition for a
mentally detective person. said II
was one where brain had never
properly developed.
Then you look at it from the
Intellectual side only?"
"I should say So"
Now, doctor, taking Thaws case
to be one Of hereditary. troubles
with number Of insane cases In
his family, of having never devoted
himself to any occupation. Of hav.
ing a rather vague, incomplete edu.
cation. Of having killed a man, OF
being charged with this Gump epi
sode, viii you please state whether
he would be mental defective?"
Matter Of Question.
HE might be and might not"
IF this is not the history Of a
mental defective what is It in your
opinion?'
well. 1t might be the story Of a
man who had too much money and
spent Il foolishly."
''Is that what you think it is?"
why, yes"
"Are there no moral tendencies
in IT,"
mot primarily"
Has this man ever done anything
Il
mot that I know Of"
Effect Of Alcohol.
The doctor was then asked II the
love OF alcohol, even In moderate
quantities, reduced a PERSONS con.
troll OF his actions.
In some people,"
Assuming that Thaw up to 1906
INDUCED in liquors. asked Mr.
Dickson, what effect would such,
an Indulgence have on his resist
ANGER"
II can't answer that. have nc
knowledge Of any such condition
I'm glad to hear what you have
ITO say on the subject" observed
DIR. Dickson.
Thaw yesterday slumped into
his seat beside his aged mother
and read studiously from q thicl.
black bound volume while counsel
Tor those who oppose his release
from an insane asylum tried tc
establish the fact in court before
Judge John Monaghan that, il
released from confinement. Thaw
might become another Jack the
Ripper.
Feared as Ripper"
Arthur Dickson. attorney for the
trustees Of the 500. 100000 estate
Of Thaw's father. In the cross.ex
animation Of DR.. George Wilson
asked If the alienist did not be
lieve it possible that Thaw, left
to his own devices, might find
pleasure in attacking young men
and women with knives, insamucE
as he Is under indictment for hav
ing beaten with a rawhide whiY
young Frederick Gump, jr.
II want to know IL the use oi
whips by a man guilty Of the prac
tice OF whipping Is likely or moi
likely In the future to 20 far be
yond that and lead TO the use Of
Knives" said Mr.. Dickson, follow
ing an objection by ex-Judge Pat
terson, Thaw's attorney.
Il am not a eoothsayer ana
can't tell what any man will do IL
the future" said DR.. Wilson.
| Desires Waning.
"Thaw Is now at an age wheH
those things are waning and hi
may be described az no longer pos
sessed OF such desires as he ono,
had"
Thaw paid not the slightest at
tention to Dickson's examination.
He continued to read as he hal
done during previous testimony o
Expensive alienfsts, who declare,
that in their opinion Thaw is sane