The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1924-08-14
DEFENSE FAILS
To BEFUDDLE
AL|EN|STS
Or. Patrick Released From
Stand After Two Days
Of Testimony
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of Testimony
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the defense lawyes finally let go Of
him today, with his opinion stand
Ing mistaken in the record.
The opinion of the States attor-
neys that Dicky Loeb and Nathan,
Leopold are not mentally diseased
is based largely upon examinations
they conducted within few hours
after both boys had calmly con-
fessed they killed Franks and re-
vealed the amazing plot by which
it was accomplished.
Conclusions "Hasty."
The defense endeavored to prove
today that this examination was
hasty, superficial and could in no
way compare to the careful X-ray
and microscopic work by which the
defense doctors arrived at their
conclusions that the young slayers
have pronounced mental and emo
tional disorders.
Proceeding on this line, Benjamin
Bachrach, one of the defense law
yers, put Doctor Patrick through a
sharp questioning today concerning
the examination.
DR.. Patrick said he had a long
talk with Nathan Leopold, thai
they discussed birds and PSYCHOLOGY.
cal subjects, such as the relation Of
instinct to reasoning, and on the
whole, he said, his observations cf
the young slayer were conducted
under "Very favorable circuin-
stances"
Favorable to what?" asked Bach
rach sharply, after bringing out the
fact that the States attorney, de.
tectives, and many other people had
been in and out Of the room while
Patrick and Leopold talked.
Favorable for observation" re.
turned the alienist 1.-THE circum.
stances were very we'll adapted to
the ascertaining of certain mental
qualities"
such as what?"
Power Of Concentration.
"Well. the circumstances were
favorable to bringing out how well
he could concentrate, his ability to
hold an intelligent conversation
with people coming in and out; 1t
was ar excellent opportunity to see
how logically his mind worked, to
what extent he could use language
and words; and to gauge his powers
Of memory" ..
Through Bachrach's close Ques.
tioning ran an undercurrent of in
ference and innuendo that the State
had been unduly hasty in rushing
the two boys before its own doctors
before they could even get counsel
or their families could employ de-
Tense tactics.
did you takes notes?" asked
Bachrach.
81 jotted some things down when
/ got home" replied Doctor Pat
rick. He obligingly produced his
pencilled notes, and the defense
lawyer compelled him to read them.
Had Interesting Talk.
Leopold himself volunteered most
Of the information obtained during
the examination, Doctor Patrick
said. The young slayer started
list about his professional activities,
"a very interesting talk"
States Attorney Grove was pres
ent only part of the time.
Bachrach was Unsuitable In his de-
sire for details. He made Doctor
Patrick tell just where every one
sat in the States attorneys office
during the conversation, what they
said, who left and who came in. all
Of which questions Doctor Patrick
answered half humorously.
Altogether, Bachrach brought out,
there were fifteen or seventeen per.
sons there.
ibid you ever in your life make
an examination of a person as 10 his
mental state under circumstances of
that sorta asked Bachrach with
some sarcasm.
II think not admitted the alien.
tst, laughing.
las matter Of fact, didn't Mr.,
Grove direct what the examination
should consist of"
RetelIs' Story Of Crime.
mo, he merely said to observe
the young men, and asked them to
repeat the whole story to u.s..
Eachrach compelled DR.. Patrick
10 repeat the whole story Of the
crime, as he remembered Loeb's
teiling 1t that day. The doctor
told the familiar story in a dry
voice, and even Dickie and Babe
iost interest in the proceed ! Is.
Judge Caverly looked bored. :
Dispute Over Killing
When Loeb got to that part OF
his recital about the actual killing
of the boy, Doctor Patrick sajd
there was an angry. dispute between
him and Leopold as to who had
actually swung the chisel, each ac.s
cusing the other. Leopold finally
got one Of the States ATTORNEYS
aside, and denied he had done II
This denial has subsequently, been
borne out by several defense alien.
lists ,testifying, that Loeb adrnitteIa
1t was. he who struck the blows.
When Loeb finished, Mr.. Len
pold said he had driven the car
and that Loeb had been. in the
back seat and killed the boy. While
Mr.. Leopold talked, Mr.. Loeb took
notes, and when he had finished
he gave. his views Of 1t. Leopold
didn't appear to think 1t necessary
TO make any notes." o..
Asks All Details.
Bachrach insisted upon knowing
every question which the doctors
asked Loeb and Leopold that day.
and every question that Grove
asked, and the young slayers' no.
plies. '''''''.I@
Bachrach's fnsistehce in this, re.
Spect was all designed to show that
the States doctors had not con.
Quoted "a really scientific examine
ton" such as would enable them
to determine the mental state Of
the prisoners. 80.
Patrick said he had asked few
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