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phantasies, asked Assistant State
Attorney Szbarbaro.
Everyone Has Fantasies.

phantasies," asked Assistant States
Attorney Szbarbaro.
Everyone Has Fantasies.
NO" replied the alienist. "All
normal people have fantasies,
usually after they go to bed. ]
know that il when 1 have mine.
Any persons with an active men.
tally has fantasies.
'"The other night, for instance
had fantasies about being on the
witness stand. conjectured ques
| tons that might be asked me. Law
yers have fantasies about their
practice and the laws; golfers have
been known to have fantasies
about their game"
Doctor Patrick delivered his
opinions half jocularly, and even
Loeb and Leopold Joined in the litter
| over the golfers fantasies.
There is nothing indicative of
mental disease in the fact that
Dcky Loeb as boy played with
and talked to a Teddy Bear, that
he wore a cowboy suit, that he
played detective and that he read
dime thrillers, Doctor Patrick said.
Most Boys Do.
Most normal boys do, he said.
! So far as Dicky's fondness for crime
literature and his youthful depre.
dations were concerned, the psy-
chiatrist said that these facts
pointed to criminal tendencies: %
but in no way indicated mental dis.
ease.
There is nothing in the Bowman
Hubert report, on which the de-
tense aliehists and lawyers have
based their entire case in mitigation,
that indicates any mental disease in
Doctor Patrick's opinion.
The States lawyers asked Doctor
Patrick to explain what signifi-
canoe was attached to the "in-
feriority complex" which the de.
Tense lawyers have said affects
both Leopold and Loeb, and played
its part in promoting the crime. It
was a subconscious desire, the de-
tense has contended, on the part Of
both Leopold and Loeb to show
their intellectual superiority by
committing "a perfect crime" that
was in large part responsible for
the whole weird affair.
DIR. Patrick did not attach much
significance to that.
Not Much Of Athlete.
'Mr. Leopold told me he neve.
engaged much in athletics" he said,
so naturally he felt inferior to
other boys. Nothing strange about
that. don't see that it contributes
to an inferiority complex"
The States attorney brought in
frequently the ~'emotion4 inferi
GRITTY" which the defense alienists
said afflicted both boys.
Its been testified here that one
OF these defendants is extremely
sensitive to pain; that he is sensi
| tive in other ways, that indicates
emotional reaction, does it not?"
1t does" replied Doctor Patrick
And SO on down through the
whole list Of ILLS" and "abnor,
malities" and "eccentricities" which
the defense alienists had found in
their x'rays, land their punching,
prodding, and microscopic examine
tons Of the two young, slayers.
To every question, Doctor PatricE
replied that he saw nothing alb
normal in that mo evidence al
mental disease there" and that
isn't out OF the ordinary"
For nearly an hour the flow OF
hypothetical questions and answers
continued without interruption, and
then the States attorney asked Doc.
tor Patrick to give his opinion OF
the Hubert Bowman report, particu
larly as to inconsistencies" cen
tanned in it.
Bachrach Objects.
II object" said Attorney Benja
min Bachrach.
The lawyers argued whether il
was a proper question or not.
Judge Caverly was the mediator
He asked Doctor Patrick If n;
could say that the Hubert. Bowman
report was untrue" and sthe alien
list replied: "Oh, Lord, no! A great
deal Of it is true"
| The States lawyers asked Patrici
TO go into the Inconsistencies oil
the Hubert report, but he said he
wouldn't attempt to do that offhand
but promised to later after he hat
an opportunity to go over it.
Loeb and Leopold were a little
inconsistent themselves as to why
| HOJ COAttthANSOG NuC DOCIDI
Patrick said. He described thu
scene in the States attorneys office
last June after the confessions.
''Mr. Loeb said once, God, / don't
Know why did IT, Later he sale
1t was first for the thrill; second
for the experience, and third, fol
the money.
"Mr. Leopold said first he haC
| sone into 1t because Dicky wanted u
| do 1t. We asked him whether II
wasn't also factor that he was try
ing to match wits with the police
and he said he guessed 1t was
Planned to Quit U. S.
Leopold and Loeb also said that
day they planned to leave the
country. after splitting the ransom
money fifty-fifty, according TO Dr
Patrick. Leopold was going to
Europe for several months, the
trip already having been arranged
by his father. and Dicky Loeb
planned to "go to Mexico for q
while"
At this point States Attorne
Grove endeavored to turn DIR. PA
rick over for cross.examination. d
! ferring his direct examination
the Hubert report until later. bu.