Evening star., 1924-08-15

tors knowledge of the present state
of medical knowledge of the endo-
crime glands"
There are many definite facts
KNOWN, he said. but they are scat
tered and not scientifically classified.
great deal remains to be known
about that field. Little that is CO.
hcrent and concrete is now known"
The field of endocrinology has
been exploited by romantic writer's,
charlatans ard others who are not
to he classified as scientists" said
DR.. Woodyatt
I'm the case of the thyroid gland
we know it produces "A substance
which can be separated and whose
chemical substance is known. 1t has
been injected into men and animals
and observations made of the effect"
After having attacked the de-
fenSe's theory of functional disorders
of the endo, rineS having affected
the Leopold and Loeb mentalities,
the prosecution surrendered DR..
NoOdyatt for OSS-eXamination.
Have You done any research work
in the endoCrine glands yourself?"
asked Walter Bachrach. of the de-
fenSe.
I've worked intensively on dia-
heteS for fifteen years, the only de-
tinitely established disease resulting
from disease OF the endocrines."
Studies Chemical Phases.
The chemical processes of the body
are connected with the functions OF
the endocrine glands. My work has
been on chemical phases" the wit
hess replied.
"Personally, believe there is
relation between the ductless glands
and the mind" he replied to another
question.
DO you believe there is a relation
between the ductless glands and
human conduct?' asked Bachrach.
I'm willing to hazard my personal
guess that the endocrine glands at
times have some relation to conduct"
replied DR.. Woodyatt
How about the thyroid glands
relative to Conduct?"
Il haven't seen them affect con-
duct in any particular way"
DO they affect the nervous sys-
tem?'
1T is definitely known that the
thyroid gland produces a substance,
but whether it has any further func-
ton, opinions differ, answered DR.
Woodyatt. That substance in over
doses increases the metabolic rate.
The heart rate is usually increased"
Admits knowledge Limited.
Have you any knowledge of the
relation of the ductless glands and
the nervous SYSTEM" asked Bach
rach.
Nothing very definite" was the
response &,
DIR. Woodyatt said he knew nothing
of psychiatry.
DO you know anything of the re-
lation of the ductless glands and the
psychophathic personality?' asked
Bachrach.
Mr.. Smith objected on the ground
that DR.. Woodyatt was not psy-
chiatrist, but Judge Caverly said the
witness had qualified as an expert
and he should answer.
':It is assumed there is; | don't
know" replied the doctor.
Clarence S. Darrow, chief of defense
counsel, and Robert f. Grove, the
States attorney, spent the period of
DR. Woodyatt's technical testimony
seated next to each other. chatting
and smiling in friendly fashion, ap-
parently having forgotten their clash
Of yesterday.
Mr. Bachrach's next score of qufs-
tions dealt with the effects of differ
ent emotions on blood PRESSURE. DR..
Woodyatt explained he thought fear
and anger increased it.
DR.. Woodyatts reply that really
7 never have examined the blood
pressure of very many angry people,
caused a litter of laughter.
Asks Effect on Emotion.
"What effect does emotion have on
basal metabolism?" asked Mr.. Bach
rach.
81 don't know that it affects 1t, only
in so far as that it might relieve the
tension of the muscles" was the re-
ply.
IF there is an unusually low basal
netabolism. would that indicate the
absence of emotion?" was the next
question.
NO" was the reply.
Would you expect to hnd an IN
creased basal metabolism where
there is emotion present. was an
swered by Not necessarily.
LAS a matter of fact, you don't
know of any relation between emo
tions and blood pressure, do YOU
asked Mr.. Bachrach, the lnterroga-
ton leading into some argumentatlve
exchanges in which DR.. Woodyatt
held out that he had made many ex-
aminations of blood pressure of per-
sons under stress.
d
field like the injection of adraenalin
mean so very much standing by itself?"
asked Mr.. Bachrach.
mo, our conclusions are not based
on any one result; we consider all per-
tinent functions, those essential to the
point" was the reply.
What would a neuropSychiatrist do
in his examination?" asked the defense
attorney.
Can't Make All Tests.
"a man in any line. who has any
common sense, should make all those
having a bearing on the case essen
TALLY, but you can't always make all
examinations having a significance"
said Dr. Woodyatt.
Would any of these alienists make
a basal metabolism test?"
THAT would depend upon the ex-
aminer, what in his judgment was es-
sential, as any man with common sense
would do" replied the doctor.
DO you know anything about the
pineal gland?" asked Mr.. Bachrach.
"All authorities don't agree that it
is a gland" replied the witness.
What is it's function?"
81 don't know, although / presume
it has one."
HAS it any relation to the opera
tion of the mnd?"
'I don't know"
The next few questions developed
that DR.. Woodyatt never had seen the
mind, did not know where it was, nor
what it was.
Would you say that a minus II per
cent on basal metabolism test is an
indication OF anything?" asked Mr.
Bachrach.
1T might be, but the evidence pre-
sented wouldn't prove it one way or
another. You cannot tell which, but
it might be health or disease" re-
Mi he