Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1924-02-03
DEMANDS RECORDS
| OF CLASSIFICATION
;StengIe Opposes Lump Sum
Pay BiIIs-CIashes With
Madden on Floor.

Paying his respects to Herbert D.
, Brown. chief Of the United States
Bureau of Efficiency as 1.-The directing
general and guiding spirit of the
personnel classification board" Rep
| resentative Charles I. Stengle Of New
York declared on the floor of the
House yesterday that he does not pro
= pose to vote for any lump sum appro-
priations for personnel employment
until he gets report on the person
| mel classification board
Representative Stengle had pre-
viously warned the House against
the establishment Of merit system.
as outlined in the report on the In
terror Department appropriation bill,
In which the House appropriations
committee established its policy In
adopting the ALLEGATIONS as made by
the personnel classification board. He
also came into public notice by his
bill and letter to the President seek
ing to have George H. Carter, the
public printer. ousted en- the ground
that he was illegally holdit & office.
Rouses Madden's Ire.
He aroused the ire OF Chairman
Madden yesterday, the latter inter
preting some Of Representative Stem
giles remraks as an insinuation on
the fairness and integrity of the
members Of the appropriations COM
mittee.
! Representative Stengle read into
the record a speech made by Repre-
sentative Madden in the Sixty-f1fth
Congress. third session, which at
tackled Mr.. Brown In connection with
the War Risk Bureau. He said that
he thought now, when Redistribution
Is being considered 1t was very per-
tinent to recall that speech. He fully
concurred in the attack by Represen-
tative Madden on Mr.. Brown, and said
that what Mr.. Madden said of him
then he, Representative Stengle,
thinks Of Mr.. Brown now. He said
that Mr.. Brown is having altogether
too much to do with Redistribution,
and that he has dominated the board
Demands Publicity,
In refusing to vote for the lump
sum appropriations Representative
Stengle said It was due to the gov
eminent, to the taxpayers and to
Congress to know just where the
money was going.
About a week ago I was informed"
said Representative Stengle, that at
the instigation Of the committee on
civil service. under a resolution that
was adopted by the House at the very
beginning of this session, the personal
classification board had forwarded to
the chairman OF that committee all
Of the documents and minutes for
their review.
About week ago. as say. 1 was
informed that after an expert had re-
viewed the work OF that board he
had forwarded to that committee's
chairman, Mr.. Lehlbach. a complete
and honest review Of what is 60
ing on.
Wants Report Printed.
II ask now that Mr.. Lehlbach pro-
duce in the Record the report of the
expert, in order that. before we are
asked to vote on any more lump sum
appropriations we can get a fair idea
of what kind OF work Is going on
which, no doubt, neither the chairman
of this committee nor it's members
have the remotest doubt at this time"
There is where Representative
Madden took offense. and the follow
ing dialogue occurred:
Statement Resented.
Madden-Mr. Chairman, I resent
the statement made by the gentle
man from New York. He insinuates
that there is something wrong being
done by the committee on appropri-
atoms.
Stengle-I said that 1 did not
Madden-I just understood the gen.
tleman to say that he wants to know
what is going on behind the closed
doors, and / challenge the gentleman,
or any one else In the world, to point
his finger at anything that we ever
do that Is not clean and right.
Stenele-I will say in reply to the
gentleman from Illinois (Madden)
that l refer him to the stenographer
minutes. said q moment ago that
/ did not believe that either ne or
the members of his committee knew
Madden assume the responslnli-
ity. and I say that the committee
knows and we do not report any
thing here that we do not know and
u do not propose to allow the gen.
tleman from New York to put any
such statement into my mouth OF
into the mouth of any member OF
the committee on appropriations. we
do not propose to allow the gentle
man to get away with that sort OF
stuff.
Insists ON Right.
Stengle-I said that we as mem
hers Of the House have right to
know what is going on in that per-
sonnet board.
Madden - The gentleman has q
right to know, but he cannot instn-
uate we are crooked.
Stengle-I never did.
Representative Stengle said last
night that he meant no reflection on
Chairman Madden or the members OF
the appropriations committee. but
that he wanted to get at what was
going on behind closed doors and
kept from Mr.. Madden and his COM
mittee.
Herbert d. Brown said last night
that he had nothing to say in re-
Spouse to Representative Stengle's
attack upon him.