The Telegraph-courier. [volume] (Kenosha, Wis.) 1888-1946, 1924-11-13
Schneeberger Gives Inter-
esting Figures to Coun-
Gil Monday Night.
FTREMEN ALSO APPEAR
Separate Audiences Given PO-
lice and Firemen Commit
tees in Special Meeting.

Three members of the city police
and three members of the Kenosha
fire department met Monday evening
with members of the city council and
the manager at the city hall to dis
cuss the question of the suggested in
crease Of salary, petitioned for by
both groups of employees.
The fremen, represented by Captain
Gill, Captain Johnson and Fireman
Walter Petersen were the first to be
heard. They told the council in a
general way Of the increase in the
cost of living, and the necessity, as
they saw it, of an increase in salary
to meet the situation.
Cost of Clothes and Equipment.
Fireman Petersen explained to the
council that the fireman must come
to work in as expensive an equipment
as man would spend on a wedding
outfit; he is clad in broadcloth every
day. This he must pay for himself.
If his clothes are ruined at a fire he
must replace them at his own ex-
pense. Insurance rates are higher
for the fremen because of the extra
hazard. 1t had been suggested that
firemen up state were paid less in
some cases than the Kenosha city
firemen but the difference in the cost
of living here and up state was point
ed out The firemen declared that
they could live on the wages now Civ
en- but not at the standard which they
felt should be maintained.
"We have no disposition" said w.
H. Afford, president of the council,
ssto ask the city employees to live on
a lower standard than that of the av-
erage workman. But we must take
into consideration the fact that it is
the other workman's money that is
taken to meet the city expenses. We
should not be happy to think of the
firemen getting less than the average
skilled workman gets, but the increase
IN the last few years in the wages to
firemen is greater than the increase
in the cost Of living as the statistics
have been fled"
Schneeberger Gives Figures.
The police committee, Assistant
Chief Cyzak, Sergeant Frank Schnee-
berger and Patrolman Paul Wellman
were next heard. Mr.. Cyzak told the
council that the sergeant would rep
resent them, and any questions that
occurred to the council would be an
swered afterward
The police sergeant had prepared a
careful tabulation of figures showing
the actual cost of keeping up a po-
lice officers family in which there is
one child. These figures did not in
clude such extras" as tobacco or
movies or baseball games, did not
even include such expenditures as
those to the police pension fund and
community chest or doctors or dem
lists bills. The council showed con-
siderable interest in this array Of fig
ures, and afterwards admitted that
they were conservative and did not
step outside the cost of necessities as
actually known to them.
He also showed by figures the sal
aries paid police executives and pa
trolmen in other cities in the United
States, many of them smaller in popu-
lation than Kenosha but with much
higher wage scale for the members
of the police department.
Patrolman Wellman addressed the
council also, giving them an insight
into the life of veteran "copper""