New Britain herald., 1924-03-20

He added that Muma, Orr and Mar tin "got their money without doing anything" He denied that Quimby ever 'Jld him that Muma had influ. ence in Washington or that they | had influence with the Attorney Gen. eral."
 An auditors statement was present cd showing that the entire profits outside of New York was $34,000 This contradicted Quimbys statement ! that the profits were si25.000. | Orr received, Rickard said, s4,509.- 1 02 and Muma and Martin s3,3S1 up 1 to October 1921, which was the last statement he ever got. Quimby des troyed or burned his account books, and never paid him his entire shares. Rickard reiterat1 d that neither Orr TOT Muma had pretended to have in fuence with Attorney General Daugh- erty. Wheeler dropped the examina- tion and Paul Howland, attorney for Mir. Daugherty. announced he had no cross-eyamination ! Senator Jones, republican, Wash 1 ington, asked if Rickard got Orr 10 1 fix" the New York censorship board.
 ITO influence it." "Td like to make statement" :" , Rickard went on. "I'd like to call 1 the amounts actually given to Muma and Martin. The entire profits were sS6,05S in the states outside of Jer- sey. Quimhy went to Germany and burned up the books. Orr got about s40oo, Aluma s3,3S1 and Martin ss,3sI."
 You are the same Rickard who said up in New York you'd bet a mil lion dollars they didn't get Daugh- erty?" remarked Senator Wheeler. 'T didn't make any million dollar remark" Rickard said. Wheeler Reads Receipts
 Senator Wheeler read a record of s1S1,oo0 gross receipts from the pie lure in New York. Expenses includ- ed s2,500 as attorney fees to Alfred s. Urion, man named Dickerson got s2.50O and "Sanhorn $5,000,r Senator Wheeler proceeded.
 These all marked as attorney fees" he commented.
 "Sanborn isn't an attorney, nor is Dickerson," Rickard returned. These were men who took the films to other states"
 You entered into an agreement on June 30 for transportation of these films in violation Of the law"
 No. sir, it was an evidence Of good faith"
 But no law was passed?"
 NO, sir
 "Why did you insist that Orr be put inr"
 Because I thought these men weren't doing any good"
 "Yet you were willing to give them so per cent, and you went ahead and shipped them--and you've never been indicted for this consipracy?"
 T haven't. I was threatened with it."
 Rickard asserted he had not met Attorney General Daugherty.
 How did Urion. the attorney gem erals friend. come to be your attor- ney in this matter?"
 He wasn't, except in Nebraska or Minnesota"
 fthaloi w tlltu IHN sEtpVU payment to urion in New York.
 "Quimby was the man who made all the arrangements" said Rickard.
 Don't you know the reason why your expenses were so big was be- cause he tQuimby) was paying out a lot to fix things?"
 'I don't know that" said Rickard. "Quimby paid out n lot Of money he didn't account for. but I think it was from one pocket 10 another"
 "Yes, and you paid ont to Orr % per cent yourself 10 fix things?"
 No, to pass censorship up in New York"
 Rickard said he never had been 1 able to get a final accounting from | Quimhy or details Of the large ex- penses in New York.
 Mfuma and Martin.
 "Who preached this matter Of a 50 l per cent division in tho first placer" Senator Jones asked.
 "Muma and Martin" said Rickard. They thought they could get this law passed and that 1t would be worth 
 Muma, he thought, was "a very in- 1uential fellow" with "a lot Of friends In the senate"
 And all the showing Of power and influence Muna made 10 you was his statement he knew e few senators?" asked Chairman Brookhart.
 "He said he knew some," replied 
 But you gos by with the show ng?" persisted Senator Wheeler.
 We made the government some money with the 10 per cent amuse- nent tax" remarked Rickard.
 "Quimby testified here that Mr. Hayward, district attorney in New Fork. suggsstel you lay low for 30 lays" Mir. Rowland put in.
 "All Mir. Hayward said to me was all Of you ought to be in jail: you've Iiready committed crime and you've rot to pay a fine'." said Rickard.
 He never heard anyone in Mir. Hay yards office, as testified by Quimby, hat that further exhibitions should 'e delayed a while, until things Iuieted down." Rickard was excused.
 Permission Refused.
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