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Lean, and Muma said he refreshed
himself with bottle Of Scotch"
go ahead"
Quote Daugherty Report.
1.-THE President, Mr.. Hughes, Mr..
Christian had a conference with
Muma," Holdridge said Muma told
him.
Later. Daugherty told Muma
that the Federal statutes on the
prize fight films were only written
against the transportation of films
and Muma said the Attorney Cen
eral told him to take up the matter
with Alfred r. Urion, lawyer in
Washington"
Holdridge declared Muma told
him that Daugherty said to him
(Muma), "if you put this across,
you ought to get a big cut. not
less than so per cent"
''You mean Muna said Daugh-
erty told him this after saying he
should see Alfred r. Urion?"
Eyes. Representatives of Tex
Richard took the matter up with
Urion and they made an arrange
ment to show the pictures"
What was the plan?"
Could "KilI'' Stories.
"He didn't say definitely then.
The plan was to use Muma's great
Influence with Washington officials
and newspapers, saying the story
could be killed in any newspaper"
Holdridge said the plan as out
fined by Muma required definite
Understandings with United States
District Attorneys or Assistant Dis
trict Attorneys"
Tell us what Muma said about
getting goats in each State"
"Muma said he had to have a
goat in each State and that they
would also have to know what
would happen to the goat" Hold
ridge added.
"You mean they would have to
know what the fine would be?"
"Yes. Muma said 1t was also
necessary to get line on che Judge
in each judicial district where the
would know whether there was any
danger of a prison sentence" Hold
ridge continued.
Afraid of Judge Lands.
In either Illinois or Indiana, "the
Judge was so hostile that the plan
had to be given up"
"What was the name Of the
judge?"
Judge Anderson, he told ME, but
they were also afraid of Judge
Landis.' Holdridge said.
Holdridge then explained how r.
G. Quinby. motion. picture producer,
was arrested and fined $1,000 IN
New York by Judge Sheppard.
'"This alarmed Quinby and he
went to Muma," Holdridge said.
"Quinby complained that a Depart
ment of Justice agent named Ma.
varro was making trouble for him.
Muna said he would go to Wash
dngton to see about the matter and
went down to Washington. He saw
e. B. Mclean and told Mclean that
he was on his way to Atlanta"
Language to Mclean.
"That was Muma's language to
1cLean?"
Eyes, Muma said he told Mclean
that 1t would look great in the
newspapers if he got arrested while
connected with McLean's newspaper
and a friend Of the Attorney Gen.
eral."
After listening to Muma's story.
Mclean got in touch with Attorney
General Daugherty." Holdridge
added.
did Spellacy hear this converse
ton you had with Muma?" asked
Ashurst.
Eyes, he sat right by my side"
Wheeler then ordered a subpoena
issued for Spellacy whom Holdridge
said was in St. Louis.
Alleged Talk With Burns.
Holdridge said that after Mclean
talked to- Daugherty. that Muma
got word he should go see William
J. Burns.
"Muma told me he saw Burns
and that Burns said he was going
to put that - Richard down in
Atlanta" said Holdridge. "Muma
said he told Burns that 1t WASH t
Richard who was going to Atlanta
but me, because carried out the
whole transaction
"Muma said that he had told
Burns, I am the master mind.
He said Burns appeared to me ir-
litated and cussed around a bit.
Among other emphatic things he
said. everybody knows everything
around here except me-"
Burns told Muma. Holdridge said.
InaL ne had never heard or the
letter directing department agents
to investigate the alleged film con-
spiracy.
after the conference, Muma said
he went back to New York with an
easier mind saying he felt better"
did he say why he felt better?"
mo, he just felt better after talk
Ing to Burns"
Only Goats Prosecuted.
WAS Muma ever prosecuted?"
mo"
''Only the goats were?"
That's what I understood"
Holdridge said 1t was possible to
seize the films under the law by
charging conspiracy to violate the
law in which case, the films would
be subject to seizure. They were
never seized, he added.
Holdridge said Muma then showed
him the contract for displaying the
films under which he Muma) under
the dummy name Of Martin" re-
ceived 30 per cent of the profits.
Holdridge later explained he had
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